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6/7/1997

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Evening Program, Eve of Shri Krishna Puja

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Day before Shri Krishna Puja, New Jersey (USA), 7 June 1997. Tomorrow I'm going to tell you about it, but today, I would say, music, dancing, art - every kind of creativity will definitely bring forth the spiritual aspect of American's life. They have to come to this. Otherwise it's not going to be appreciated, it won't be an appeal, people won't like such music. They'll try some tricks otherwise - you know that in this country we have all kinds of people, all kinds of music, and sometimes extremely stupid. But, somehow they are gaining the idea that popularity now doesn't remain with all kind of strand and stupid things. They have taken, I'm sure, by their own urge to search the reality a new type of a style, new type of a singing, in which there is a different tune, I feel, is coming up, suggesting that there's something higher that we have to enjoy. The idea of enjoyment is change. Sometimes people feel that this country is not so ancient, it has no traditions, also people are from different cultures and so they are all mixed up, confused. But in that confusion only you are going to find the truth. And that's why everywhere in America you go you find that there are people who are working some out sort of a search of their own. Maybe it's not correct - it's not all right. Like the music now, you see, you had such serene, deep music, also some very collective music, all types of music that you could think of. And Indian music, Spanish music, also Russian music - all these have combined on the stage here. That is suggestive that one day the whole world will have sense of music. That's a different thing than music is, because music can be anything. To have the sense of music that not only entertains, but elevates you, takes you to higher realms of your existence. That is music. You know how much I love music. It is not because I'm - sort of - fond of music, but through music vibrations can be spread much faster. And they can be also easily penetrate into your being. So, a person who is absolutely dry, who doesn't like music at all, or the one who is - who doesn't like poetry, I mean, all the left-sided talents. Such a person is not in balance. And that's why it is important that one should try - even if you don't like - try to understand music. The another side - it's a very funny mixture here, I find, in America. One side is this creativity which is sometimes quite mad. On the other side you find people extremely busy. Have no time to even sing something or read something - extremely, extremely busy making money. Only money is the criteria. But the money situation seems to be very bad here to Me, for future. Because of the stupid ideas about economics here. Whatever it is - Sahaja Yogis are going to be absolutely very rich, prosperous, well-known, because the talents they have will show. In every field of life you'll find every Sahaja Yogi will be so successful that those who were full of their ego and thought no end of themselves will realize that unless and until you have the light of your Spirit you cannot grow very further. Because in the dimensions of human mind you cannot conceive the heights which you can reach. Through music - when today you were singing I was amazed what a talent we have in Sahaja Yoga. I mean, they are not paid for, they have not trained, they have not been to universities and colleges of music - just spontaneously how beautifully they can sing and give us spiritual music which really heartens Me. I was very happy to see the progress you have made in art, I should say, and the other variety of your expressions. Everything was really wonderful and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I'm sure one day all of you who are just Sahaja Yogi singers will be professionals - and this and that, but don't forget Me then. (Laughter) So it's a nice time we had this evening. Tomorrow again there is going to be puja and I'm really, really I must say very happy and I congratulate you to organize this program in America in such a beautiful manner. And all of you are such enthusiasts. They told Me how you have been contributing and they wouldn't take any money from Me, because I thought, "How could they bear all the expenses?" But somehow or other it's all working out. It's just your sweet desires, your deep surrender. Everything has worked beautifully and the oneness of all the world you can feel in America today and I hope this will go on and on and on and we'll be spreading it much more. May God bless you!

Day before Shri Krishna Puja, New Jersey (USA), 7 June 1997. Tomorrow I'm going to tell you about it, but today, I would say, music, dancing, art - every kind of creativity will definitely bring forth the spiritual aspect of American's life. They have to come to this. Otherwise it's not going to be appreciated, it won't be an appeal, people won't like such music. They'll try some tricks otherwise - you know that in this country we have all kinds of people, all kinds of music, and sometimes extremely stupid. But, somehow they are gaining the idea that popularity now doesn't remain with all kind of strand and stupid things. They have taken, I'm sure, by their own urge to search the reality a new type of a style, new type of a singing, in which there is a different tune, I feel, is coming up, suggesting that there's something higher that we have to enjoy. The idea of enjoyment is change. Sometimes people feel that this country is not so ancient, it has no traditions, also people are from different cultures and so they are all mixed up, confused. But in that confusion only you are going to find the truth. And that's why everywhere in America you go you find that there are people who are working some out sort of a search of their own. Maybe it's not correct - it's not all right. Like the music now, you see, you had such serene, deep music, also some very collective music, all types of music that you could think of. And Indian music, Spanish music, also Russian music - all these have combined on the stage here. That is suggestive that one day the whole world will have sense of music. That's a different thing than music is, because music can be anything. To have the sense of music that not only entertains, but elevates you, takes you to higher realms of your existence. That is music. You know how much I love music. It is not because I'm - sort of - fond of music, but through music vibrations can be spread much faster. And they can be also easily penetrate into your being. So, a person who is absolutely dry, who doesn't like music at all, or the one who is - who doesn't like poetry, I mean, all the left-sided talents. Such a person is not in balance. And that's why it is important that one should try - even if you don't like - try to understand music. The another side - it's a very funny mixture here, I find, in America. One side is this creativity which is sometimes quite mad. On the other side you find people extremely busy. Have no time to even sing something or read something - extremely, extremely busy making money. Only money is the criteria. But the money situation seems to be very bad here to Me, for future. Because of the stupid ideas about economics here. Whatever it is - Sahaja Yogis are going to be absolutely very rich, prosperous, well-known, because the talents they have will show. In every field of life you'll find every Sahaja Yogi will be so successful that those who were full of their ego and thought no end of themselves will realize that unless and until you have the light of your Spirit you cannot grow very further. Because in the dimensions of human mind you cannot conceive the heights which you can reach. Through music - when today you were singing I was amazed what a talent we have in Sahaja Yoga. I mean, they are not paid for, they have not trained, they have not been to universities and colleges of music - just spontaneously how beautifully they can sing and give us spiritual music which really heartens Me. I was very happy to see the progress you have made in art, I should say, and the other variety of your expressions. Everything was really wonderful and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I'm sure one day all of you who are just Sahaja Yogi singers will be professionals - and this and that, but don't forget Me then. (Laughter) So it's a nice time we had this evening. Tomorrow again there is going to be puja and I'm really, really I must say very happy and I congratulate you to organize this program in America in such a beautiful manner. And all of you are such enthusiasts. They told Me how you have been contributing and they wouldn't take any money from Me, because I thought, "How could they bear all the expenses?" But somehow or other it's all working out. It's just your sweet desires, your deep surrender. Everything has worked beautifully and the oneness of all the world you can feel in America today and I hope this will go on and on and on and we'll be spreading it much more. May God bless you!

6/8/1997

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Shri Krishna Puja: Freedom Without Wisdom Is Dangerous

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Shri Krishna Puja. New York (USA), 8 June 1997 Today we have decided to have Shri Krishna Puja in the land of Shri Krishna. Though this is the land of Shri Krishna, people ask Me why the people are not spiritual. How is it they get entangled into different types of seekings which are not leading to truth? Why is it the people in America [are] not so alert as to recognize what is the truth and what they have to find? Shri Krishna’s time was, as you know, at least two thousand after Shri Rama. And Shri Rama created lots of disciplines for human beings to follow in the path of their ascent. According to the time everything works out. So people were extremely rigid, disciplined, and it so happened that people lost the touch with the truth. They would leave their wives, ill-treat their wives, do all kinds of things in the name of Shri Rama; because always human beings take to something which is not right. The another side they never saw, how Rama went after Sitaji to find Her, and He fought the horrible rakshasa Ravana to get back His wife. So the other side people never see. Only this side they saw that He was very strict with His wife, and if the wife stayed over in some function He got so angry, and He shouted at Her and He threw Her out, and all those things. That is how Shri Krishna came in. Always incarnations come one after another to correct themselves only. When Shri Krishna found that it is on the other side, of ego – that men thought they were very powerful people and they could do whatever they liked, and they had all the power to judge their wives – so Shri Krishna came with a new diversion, or I should say, from a new idea about life. He talked of freedom, He talked of abandonment, and He talked that life is for enjoyment. Radha was the source of joy. “Ra” is energy, “dha” means the one who sustains energy. She was the source of joy, and His idea was, to enjoy life is the best way to live. And that’s why He said that you should play Holi, you should enjoy yourselves, you must have Raas, by which you enjoy group dancing and freedom. So people thought that’s the way one has to live – is to be absolutely free, live as you like, specially in America. They thought that to enjoy life is complete abandonment: no discipline, no bindings, you can divorce your wife eight times and husbands ten times. That sort of a life started long time back, but it really prospered in America. The prosperity of this kind of a culture came to such a level that now we don’t know what’s going to happen to the family system, to the joy part of it. Again here people forgot the other side of it. Adi Shakti first created Shri Ganesh. Shri Ganesh is the source of wisdom, He’s the source of auspiciousness. Through Him we understand auspiciousness. And He is a child, He is an eternal child. And this behavior of abandonment is very destructive if there is no wisdom. First thing was to establish wisdom within ourselves. But we start a theory or a kind of a pattern of life without thinking have we got the wisdom or not? Are we capable of following that pattern of life without any development of our wisdom? But the worst was when the freedom became the criteria of life, people became extremely dominating and egoistical. The first answer always you will get it, “What’s wrong?” You ask them, “Why are you doing this?” “What’s wrong?” “I mean, it’s wrong because it is not auspicious.” “What’s auspiciousness is there?” – absolutely like you can call them, people without any brains, brainless people. “Brainless” means there is no wisdom. What is the power of brain is wisdom. So life started drifting into a destructive pond, we should say, of no return. And every kind of filth was accepted as a blessing, and nobody would think that this is wrong, this is not for human life. Even the animals are all not like that. Added to that came the stupidity of drinking alcohol. I don’t know how they discovered alcohol long time back, long, long time back, but they say it came out of the manthana and out of the churning of the ocean by the suras and asuras, by the rakshasas and by the devas. Must be some trick to get these rakshasas drunk, and to somehow or other manage to get the kumbha of, the pitcher of amruta, ambrosia; so that these rakshasas will be lost drinking and then the devas will get their due, which was amruta, which was ambrosia. That might be one of the reasons that it was created out of the ocean, or among all the fourteen things that came out of the ocean. So kind of a oppositions, opposite quality of things were created. Another thing they created were prostitutes. One may ask why prostitutes came out of that manthana – because now you have freedom. You are given freedom to choose, and so you must have full vision whether to choose an auspicious life, a holy life, a divine life, or to choose destructive life. This opposition came forward because your freedom had to be respected, that was very important. In the growth of human awareness it was very important to respect the freedom of human beings. Because animals, if you see, they have no freedom: a snake will be a snake, scorpion will be a scorpion, lion will be a lion. They live with their own qualities, gunas; you cannot make them do something that other animals are doing. We have passed through all these different animal yonis and now we are human beings, and now we have freedom. Now why freedom, one may ask – because these days they ask such questions for everything you say – why freedom needed? Like I always told you before that in the school they teach you two plus two is four, and you have to remember it. But when you grow and when you go to college, you are supposed to have freedom to understand everything yourself. In the same manner, your awareness was to be brought to that level that you could use your freedom wisely. Now, you have to have temptations. How can you judge a person whether he is blind or not blind? Supposing you ask a blind person, “Is this a flower?” He might feel it, say, “No, no, it’s a bee.” So he has to have his eyes to see, and once you give him the eyes he goes amok. He doesn’t know what to do, what is good for him. So he chose all that was not at all good for him, auspicious for him, and detrimental for his growth. So the drinking started, and with drinking you don’t know how we get abandoned. I have heard people, that they lose their sense of relationship with brothers, sisters, mothers, everything, if you get drunk. So many drunkards have told Me this. That is why in this country we have funny type of relationships – one can’t understand, how can it be? But it is so. By drinking, all these things have happened that they don’t know who is your sister, who is your wife, who is your mother. In India also we have but different type of thing, that they will ill-treat their mother, they’ll ill-treat their sister, ill-treat their wives; the other way round also. (15.47) But here they do not ill-treat, they love, but in a very perverted manner. Just see the reaction in two countries. So this grew up very much, and today we see a country that is America in a complete chaos. So this freedom without any wisdom at all growing, starts creating a terrible ego. When auspiciousness is given up then Shri Ganesha sleeps and as Christ, who is the incarnation of Shri Ganesha, also doesn’t bother. So the rule of Christ is finished. So what rules is the ego, this ego which thinks it is free. It doesn’t know it is bound by all kinds of enemies of very horrible types. At the time of Shri Krishna He said that the worst enemy human beings have is anger, but I think in modern times the worst enemy human beings have is greed and jealousy. Greed has no meaning these days. I mean, what do you say to a person who has three thousand shoes – I mean, pairs of shoes? Must be mad! There are all sorts of things, you know, in greed you see these days. You don’t know how people are really behaving. No one can explain. I know of someone who has five thousand dogs. What is she doing with those dogs I don’t know, but she has. Like all countries, even in America I think it’s much worse, much worse. Now you may call it anything, consumerism or anything like that, or your economics which is, I think, very faulty, it doesn’t understand human beings – whatever it may be, it can never bring benevolence, neither to the person who thinks he is rich, or to the people whom he is exploiting. As far as spirituality is concerned, they are all away from the realm of divinity. Now the mind starts working with ego. Ego takes over like a computer, and it starts suggesting ways and methods by which how much money you can earn. So when you start earning money, then again the same Ego Mister tells you how to destroy yourself with this money. They do all kinds of things when they have money. I mean, that money is not a Lakshmi prasad; it is some sort of a money that becomes like a rakshasa or a devil and which devours you. It takes you to all kinds of wrong places. It takes you to such horrible theories that nobody would accept such theories. This ego makes you feel that – ah, yes, you are perfect, you know everything, whatever you are doing is the best. But with all that doing, what happens? You become restless, you cannot sleep. Now with the problem here is that people have this so-called tension, stress. In our young age we never heard of this word, what is tension, stress is. Even now in India very few people know about it. Because you yourself, you are destroying yourself. So with this money, say, you want to entice some woman – take a very low-level thing. Then you’ll run after her, give her this, give her that, and spend all your money till you become bankrupt. And then you’ll start sitting and crying. And this is a common story. I don’t know why don’t they make films like this, to show actually what happens to a person who runs after money, and he goes on then spending that money. He doesn’t know what to do, you see; money also eats him, I think. On the other side we have people who are extremely miserly. So all their – with the money only, they become so much greedy that they keep their money in seven locks and keys. Now, they see in the world there are people who are suffering so much, who have so much problem. Why not spend some money on them? So then there are agents come up, like our Swiss bank. Swiss bank is the outcome of our greed, completely our greed; because we have so much money we don’t know what to do, so we put it in the Swiss bank. Swiss bank says, “All right, we’ll look after it.” Because we are greedy as well as we are miserly. I mean, miserly people are another crackpots, I should say, the way they live. But also the people who have money are really crackpots. They have no sense of self-respect, neither self-esteem. Now imagine eighty, ninety-year-old women going for a shake dance, as I told you. Because they have money they think they should do this, competing with the young people, because they have money. If they have money, if they get it without any, I should say, cheating or without deceiving someone, if it’s a real good money they should give it to some good cause and try to propagate goodness. But money itself seems to be something very bad, like poison, because either this money makes you mad how to spend it, or mad how to save it. As if you become a slave of this money business, and in that slavishness you go on drifting, drifting, drifting. I’ve seen people when they talk, you don’t know why they talk like that, you know. Then you discover that they have a bank account, that’s why they are talking like that. If you don’t have bank account then you won’t talk like that. I mean, more than that also. This country is overflowing with money, with all kinds of money transactions, permutations and combinations and this and that, and what you can do with money – because Shri Krishna is Kubera. He is the Deity, or we can say He is the God of wealth. But at the same time, He is a very mischievous God. You can see clearly: this is supposed to be Shri Krishna’s country which is overflowing with money. At the same time you find horrible things happening, worst in the whole world. I mean, no one can beat Americans, they say, in stupidity, in vulgarity, indecency, exploitation. So this is the curse of money on human beings, which is to be understood, that freedom without wisdom is the most dangerous thing to use. It is better not to be free if you have no wisdom, because God knows what you will do if you have freedom and no wisdom. I’ve seen here, heard about women who are killing their children. I mean, nowhere you will find such a thing like that, killing small children. Now how this money makes you so dry that you have no, I would say, no love, no feeling. Just for killing’s sake also, people kill here. Now there are – there’s another thing that this money does: it creates a disparity. There are some who are very rich, there are some who are very poor. So those who are very poor are against those who are very rich. They can’t understand why should these people have so much money, so they think it’s a matter of right to snatch all that money from them and use it for themselves. But the same money can destroy them also. So snatching that money with violence or grabbing it is not going to give you any blessings. So what is the purpose of wealth? That is very important for people who worship Shri Krishna to know. In Shri Krishna’s life, He saw that the women who were creating buttermilk and butter were carrying all that all the way to Mathura, where in Mathura this horrible King Kamsa was reigning. And they used to give to all the soldiers there. He didn’t want them to do that. Because they would fetch much more money, they would be paid much more, so these women were greedy about it. Instead of giving them to their own children, to their own families, they used to collect all that and take to Mathura. From very childhood Shri Krishna used to throw stones at those pitchers and break their pitchers, because he didn’t want that to go all the way to Mathura to feed those horrible soldiers. This is what it is we have to learn, that if we have, say, surplus money or something, you have to think what you can do with it and what joy it can bring, by sharing with right type of people. Not in the pubs, no, no, I don’t mean that, but sharing it for their needs and what they want. Actually a disciple of Shri Krishna should be a self-satisfied person. Look at His life, how self-satisfied He was. Every episode about Him talks of His complete oneness with Himself. For example, when Arjuna asked Him that “Why don’t You join us Pandavas to fight with us?” In modern times in the competitive life, you see, if you see those races, they are so anxious to win, to have the higher position. Then all the big, big politicians are trying to bring down other politicians, to have their own power. But what did Shri Krishna say, that “I will be your charioteer. I’ll drive your chariot, but I will not lift My weapon against anyone.” We can’t think of anyone like that today. See, people will never say that, “All right, I will stay down and you’ll be on the throne.” Very difficult even to see one person who could behave like Shri Krishna. Because whether He is a charioteer or He is the one who was Arjuna, or He was the captain of the whole thing, He knew what He was. What was the need for Him to become this or that, and that? But these days, you see, to become something is such a struggle going on. Someone wants to be, say, the prime minister – that’s the highest, I think, I don’t know. But then some want to dislodge the prime minister. Then you start from the peon upward, everybody wants something higher, higher, higher, higher. This is another very subtle type of greed which is working out in our minds. Even in Sahaja Yoga I’ve seen that the leaders – now are settled down of course, much better – but used to be such a terrible fight for leadership. It’s all a myth, actual myth, but they used to fight. And they would write letters after letters. There were groups: one group would write against another group, another group would write against this group, and I used to just laugh, because there’s no truth in it. Leadership is no truth, it’s just a joke. But even if I told them it’s a joke, they would not understand it’s a joke and not to be that serious, and to fight about it. Gradually it’s settled down normally – better, much better, it’s not so much bad. But that is what is there, this greed. That was the mistake, I think, of Shri Krishna, that instead of anger He should have put greed as the worst thing. Actually, you see, these incarnations don’t know much about human beings, and they would not know how far they will be going – same happens to Me. But they are absolutely unaware that what these human beings are, what you tell them, what they will make out of it. Their brains are so sharp that they’ll pick up whatever is wrong for them, and never see whatever is right for them. Shri Rama tried something – it was of no use. Shri Krishna tried something – it was of no use. So we come to Shri Jesus Christ. Nowadays the people who are something else are ardent disciples of Christ. They have no wisdom of any kind. Like mad they are going about. You read there about their organizations, you read about things that they do, you are amazed at it; you see, how can they be disciples of Christ? In no way they have any right on Christ to begin with, because they don’t know anything about Christ. First to know and then to imbibe His qualities are something very, very, I should say, impossible thing these days. Some would say, “Why was He born in a poor family? He was born in a poor family – He should have been born to Mr. Ford.” Some say – I mean, you see, finding faults and criticizing is the only thing left to us now because you can’t do anything else, that’s why. Then they would say, “Why did He get himself crucified?” He didn’t crucify you. He should have crucified you, but actually He crucified himself, that was His mistake. It is also very difficult for human beings to understand incarnations, because they are in juxtaposition. They are very different things, so human beings can’t understand. Now they are there to lead them, they are there to tell them what is to be done; but the way they understand, you see, it’s just absurd. For example, you know in Chicago I met the head of the Hare Rama fellow. Another puzzle he was to Me, really, because he came in a very thin dhoti and it was so very cold, and he was shivering before Me. So I said, “Sir, why are you wearing such a thin dhoti? You are shivering, I am very sorry.” He said, “Why? My guru has told me that I should have a thin dhoti.” “Why?” “To go to heaven, to achieve my ascent.” I said, “Really? He told you like that? But Shri Krishna never wore a thin dhoti.” “But I am not Shri Krishna,” he said – see how the human mind tries to avoid. So now, then he had shaved his head and had a big pony-tail behind. I asked him, “Why have you shaved your head?” So he said, “Because my guru told me that you have to shave your head if you have to go to heaven.” So I said, “But Shri Krishna did not shave His head.” “No, no, but He was incarnation. I have to shave my head so I have to go to heaven.” So I told him, “See, Kabira has said, ‘These sheep are shaven and shorn every year twice. And if they all go to heaven where will be a place left for you?’ ”. So he never understood Me. He got very angry with Me, and he said to Me, “Mother, You are talking ill about my guru.” I said, “I am not talking ill. I am your Mother, I am just asking Me that what’s the use of wearing this thin dhoti, that’s all. A Mother has a right to ask.” He got very angry, he went away. And he’s the head of these Hare Ramas! So to understand the incarnation also you have to be a realized soul, otherwise you cannot, because they look very absurd. Without asking any questions if you can become a realized soul – if you ask questions it’s one degree less – without questioning if you get your realization, without any questions, then you have the highest marks. But if you, after questioning and this thing and that thing, then you have less marks, because your mind is very active, and the person whose mind is active cannot achieve something beyond the mind. You have to achieve it beyond the mind. This is one thing at least if you all understand, I think My work is done. All tricks tried by Shri Krishna, all disciplines put by Shri Rama, all the gurus who tried their level best to tell you what to do, is only to make you a yogi by taking you beyond the mind. And then what happens? Then you are in connection with this all-pervading Power which is looking after you, which protects you, which helps you; in every way you are absolutely in charge of this Paramachaitanya. Now supposing I do not take the citizenship of America – of course I may never take, but supposing. Then this government is not in charge of Me. But if I take, of course they’ll tax Me, do all kinds of things, doesn’t matter, but at least they’ll be in charge. But this Paramchaitanya when it takes over, it is love, is absolute love: love which thinks, understands, coordinates, cooperates, works, and extremely sensitive. It works – I’m sometimes so surprised the way it works, without fail, without making any mistakes. You don’t have to even tell, because you are there. But to believe that we are there also is a difficult task. With all the experiences you should believe that you are there, but that is also quite a difficult task. So when we say they’re established Sahaja yogis then what we mean is this, that they are completely one, under complete charge of Paramachaitanya. That’s what we have to be. If you want to save this country, you have to be that. No argument, no explanation, nothing; no fighting, no strikes, nothing. No placards is needed. You are the ones who will advertise Sahaja Yoga. Every one of you should understand that your life is very important at this juncture. And you have to become that special person who reflects reality through the divine love. May God bless you.

Shri Krishna Puja. New York (USA), 8 June 1997 Today we have decided to have Shri Krishna Puja in the land of Shri Krishna. Though this is the land of Shri Krishna, people ask Me why the people are not spiritual. How is it they get entangled into different types of seekings which are not leading to truth? Why is it the people in America [are] not so alert as to recognize what is the truth and what they have to find? Shri Krishna’s time was, as you know, at least two thousand after Shri Rama. And Shri Rama created lots of disciplines for human beings to follow in the path of their ascent. According to the time everything works out. So people were extremely rigid, disciplined, and it so happened that people lost the touch with the truth. They would leave their wives, ill-treat their wives, do all kinds of things in the name of Shri Rama; because always human beings take to something which is not right. The another side they never saw, how Rama went after Sitaji to find Her, and He fought the horrible rakshasa Ravana to get back His wife. So the other side people never see. Only this side they saw that He was very strict with His wife, and if the wife stayed over in some function He got so angry, and He shouted at Her and He threw Her out, and all those things. That is how Shri Krishna came in. Always incarnations come one after another to correct themselves only. When Shri Krishna found that it is on the other side, of ego – that men thought they were very powerful people and they could do whatever they liked, and they had all the power to judge their wives – so Shri Krishna came with a new diversion, or I should say, from a new idea about life. He talked of freedom, He talked of abandonment, and He talked that life is for enjoyment. Radha was the source of joy. “Ra” is energy, “dha” means the one who sustains energy. She was the source of joy, and His idea was, to enjoy life is the best way to live. And that’s why He said that you should play Holi, you should enjoy yourselves, you must have Raas, by which you enjoy group dancing and freedom. So people thought that’s the way one has to live – is to be absolutely free, live as you like, specially in America. They thought that to enjoy life is complete abandonment: no discipline, no bindings, you can divorce your wife eight times and husbands ten times. That sort of a life started long time back, but it really prospered in America. The prosperity of this kind of a culture came to such a level that now we don’t know what’s going to happen to the family system, to the joy part of it. Again here people forgot the other side of it. Adi Shakti first created Shri Ganesh. Shri Ganesh is the source of wisdom, He’s the source of auspiciousness. Through Him we understand auspiciousness. And He is a child, He is an eternal child. And this behavior of abandonment is very destructive if there is no wisdom. First thing was to establish wisdom within ourselves. But we start a theory or a kind of a pattern of life without thinking have we got the wisdom or not? Are we capable of following that pattern of life without any development of our wisdom? But the worst was when the freedom became the criteria of life, people became extremely dominating and egoistical. The first answer always you will get it, “What’s wrong?” You ask them, “Why are you doing this?” “What’s wrong?” “I mean, it’s wrong because it is not auspicious.” “What’s auspiciousness is there?” – absolutely like you can call them, people without any brains, brainless people. “Brainless” means there is no wisdom. What is the power of brain is wisdom. So life started drifting into a destructive pond, we should say, of no return. And every kind of filth was accepted as a blessing, and nobody would think that this is wrong, this is not for human life. Even the animals are all not like that. Added to that came the stupidity of drinking alcohol. I don’t know how they discovered alcohol long time back, long, long time back, but they say it came out of the manthana and out of the churning of the ocean by the suras and asuras, by the rakshasas and by the devas. Must be some trick to get these rakshasas drunk, and to somehow or other manage to get the kumbha of, the pitcher of amruta, ambrosia; so that these rakshasas will be lost drinking and then the devas will get their due, which was amruta, which was ambrosia. That might be one of the reasons that it was created out of the ocean, or among all the fourteen things that came out of the ocean. So kind of a oppositions, opposite quality of things were created. Another thing they created were prostitutes. One may ask why prostitutes came out of that manthana – because now you have freedom. You are given freedom to choose, and so you must have full vision whether to choose an auspicious life, a holy life, a divine life, or to choose destructive life. This opposition came forward because your freedom had to be respected, that was very important. In the growth of human awareness it was very important to respect the freedom of human beings. Because animals, if you see, they have no freedom: a snake will be a snake, scorpion will be a scorpion, lion will be a lion. They live with their own qualities, gunas; you cannot make them do something that other animals are doing. We have passed through all these different animal yonis and now we are human beings, and now we have freedom. Now why freedom, one may ask – because these days they ask such questions for everything you say – why freedom needed? Like I always told you before that in the school they teach you two plus two is four, and you have to remember it. But when you grow and when you go to college, you are supposed to have freedom to understand everything yourself. In the same manner, your awareness was to be brought to that level that you could use your freedom wisely. Now, you have to have temptations. How can you judge a person whether he is blind or not blind? Supposing you ask a blind person, “Is this a flower?” He might feel it, say, “No, no, it’s a bee.” So he has to have his eyes to see, and once you give him the eyes he goes amok. He doesn’t know what to do, what is good for him. So he chose all that was not at all good for him, auspicious for him, and detrimental for his growth. So the drinking started, and with drinking you don’t know how we get abandoned. I have heard people, that they lose their sense of relationship with brothers, sisters, mothers, everything, if you get drunk. So many drunkards have told Me this. That is why in this country we have funny type of relationships – one can’t understand, how can it be? But it is so. By drinking, all these things have happened that they don’t know who is your sister, who is your wife, who is your mother. In India also we have but different type of thing, that they will ill-treat their mother, they’ll ill-treat their sister, ill-treat their wives; the other way round also. (15.47) But here they do not ill-treat, they love, but in a very perverted manner. Just see the reaction in two countries. So this grew up very much, and today we see a country that is America in a complete chaos. So this freedom without any wisdom at all growing, starts creating a terrible ego. When auspiciousness is given up then Shri Ganesha sleeps and as Christ, who is the incarnation of Shri Ganesha, also doesn’t bother. So the rule of Christ is finished. So what rules is the ego, this ego which thinks it is free. It doesn’t know it is bound by all kinds of enemies of very horrible types. At the time of Shri Krishna He said that the worst enemy human beings have is anger, but I think in modern times the worst enemy human beings have is greed and jealousy. Greed has no meaning these days. I mean, what do you say to a person who has three thousand shoes – I mean, pairs of shoes? Must be mad! There are all sorts of things, you know, in greed you see these days. You don’t know how people are really behaving. No one can explain. I know of someone who has five thousand dogs. What is she doing with those dogs I don’t know, but she has. Like all countries, even in America I think it’s much worse, much worse. Now you may call it anything, consumerism or anything like that, or your economics which is, I think, very faulty, it doesn’t understand human beings – whatever it may be, it can never bring benevolence, neither to the person who thinks he is rich, or to the people whom he is exploiting. As far as spirituality is concerned, they are all away from the realm of divinity. Now the mind starts working with ego. Ego takes over like a computer, and it starts suggesting ways and methods by which how much money you can earn. So when you start earning money, then again the same Ego Mister tells you how to destroy yourself with this money. They do all kinds of things when they have money. I mean, that money is not a Lakshmi prasad; it is some sort of a money that becomes like a rakshasa or a devil and which devours you. It takes you to all kinds of wrong places. It takes you to such horrible theories that nobody would accept such theories. This ego makes you feel that – ah, yes, you are perfect, you know everything, whatever you are doing is the best. But with all that doing, what happens? You become restless, you cannot sleep. Now with the problem here is that people have this so-called tension, stress. In our young age we never heard of this word, what is tension, stress is. Even now in India very few people know about it. Because you yourself, you are destroying yourself. So with this money, say, you want to entice some woman – take a very low-level thing. Then you’ll run after her, give her this, give her that, and spend all your money till you become bankrupt. And then you’ll start sitting and crying. And this is a common story. I don’t know why don’t they make films like this, to show actually what happens to a person who runs after money, and he goes on then spending that money. He doesn’t know what to do, you see; money also eats him, I think. On the other side we have people who are extremely miserly. So all their – with the money only, they become so much greedy that they keep their money in seven locks and keys. Now, they see in the world there are people who are suffering so much, who have so much problem. Why not spend some money on them? So then there are agents come up, like our Swiss bank. Swiss bank is the outcome of our greed, completely our greed; because we have so much money we don’t know what to do, so we put it in the Swiss bank. Swiss bank says, “All right, we’ll look after it.” Because we are greedy as well as we are miserly. I mean, miserly people are another crackpots, I should say, the way they live. But also the people who have money are really crackpots. They have no sense of self-respect, neither self-esteem. Now imagine eighty, ninety-year-old women going for a shake dance, as I told you. Because they have money they think they should do this, competing with the young people, because they have money. If they have money, if they get it without any, I should say, cheating or without deceiving someone, if it’s a real good money they should give it to some good cause and try to propagate goodness. But money itself seems to be something very bad, like poison, because either this money makes you mad how to spend it, or mad how to save it. As if you become a slave of this money business, and in that slavishness you go on drifting, drifting, drifting. I’ve seen people when they talk, you don’t know why they talk like that, you know. Then you discover that they have a bank account, that’s why they are talking like that. If you don’t have bank account then you won’t talk like that. I mean, more than that also. This country is overflowing with money, with all kinds of money transactions, permutations and combinations and this and that, and what you can do with money – because Shri Krishna is Kubera. He is the Deity, or we can say He is the God of wealth. But at the same time, He is a very mischievous God. You can see clearly: this is supposed to be Shri Krishna’s country which is overflowing with money. At the same time you find horrible things happening, worst in the whole world. I mean, no one can beat Americans, they say, in stupidity, in vulgarity, indecency, exploitation. So this is the curse of money on human beings, which is to be understood, that freedom without wisdom is the most dangerous thing to use. It is better not to be free if you have no wisdom, because God knows what you will do if you have freedom and no wisdom. I’ve seen here, heard about women who are killing their children. I mean, nowhere you will find such a thing like that, killing small children. Now how this money makes you so dry that you have no, I would say, no love, no feeling. Just for killing’s sake also, people kill here. Now there are – there’s another thing that this money does: it creates a disparity. There are some who are very rich, there are some who are very poor. So those who are very poor are against those who are very rich. They can’t understand why should these people have so much money, so they think it’s a matter of right to snatch all that money from them and use it for themselves. But the same money can destroy them also. So snatching that money with violence or grabbing it is not going to give you any blessings. So what is the purpose of wealth? That is very important for people who worship Shri Krishna to know. In Shri Krishna’s life, He saw that the women who were creating buttermilk and butter were carrying all that all the way to Mathura, where in Mathura this horrible King Kamsa was reigning. And they used to give to all the soldiers there. He didn’t want them to do that. Because they would fetch much more money, they would be paid much more, so these women were greedy about it. Instead of giving them to their own children, to their own families, they used to collect all that and take to Mathura. From very childhood Shri Krishna used to throw stones at those pitchers and break their pitchers, because he didn’t want that to go all the way to Mathura to feed those horrible soldiers. This is what it is we have to learn, that if we have, say, surplus money or something, you have to think what you can do with it and what joy it can bring, by sharing with right type of people. Not in the pubs, no, no, I don’t mean that, but sharing it for their needs and what they want. Actually a disciple of Shri Krishna should be a self-satisfied person. Look at His life, how self-satisfied He was. Every episode about Him talks of His complete oneness with Himself. For example, when Arjuna asked Him that “Why don’t You join us Pandavas to fight with us?” In modern times in the competitive life, you see, if you see those races, they are so anxious to win, to have the higher position. Then all the big, big politicians are trying to bring down other politicians, to have their own power. But what did Shri Krishna say, that “I will be your charioteer. I’ll drive your chariot, but I will not lift My weapon against anyone.” We can’t think of anyone like that today. See, people will never say that, “All right, I will stay down and you’ll be on the throne.” Very difficult even to see one person who could behave like Shri Krishna. Because whether He is a charioteer or He is the one who was Arjuna, or He was the captain of the whole thing, He knew what He was. What was the need for Him to become this or that, and that? But these days, you see, to become something is such a struggle going on. Someone wants to be, say, the prime minister – that’s the highest, I think, I don’t know. But then some want to dislodge the prime minister. Then you start from the peon upward, everybody wants something higher, higher, higher, higher. This is another very subtle type of greed which is working out in our minds. Even in Sahaja Yoga I’ve seen that the leaders – now are settled down of course, much better – but used to be such a terrible fight for leadership. It’s all a myth, actual myth, but they used to fight. And they would write letters after letters. There were groups: one group would write against another group, another group would write against this group, and I used to just laugh, because there’s no truth in it. Leadership is no truth, it’s just a joke. But even if I told them it’s a joke, they would not understand it’s a joke and not to be that serious, and to fight about it. Gradually it’s settled down normally – better, much better, it’s not so much bad. But that is what is there, this greed. That was the mistake, I think, of Shri Krishna, that instead of anger He should have put greed as the worst thing. Actually, you see, these incarnations don’t know much about human beings, and they would not know how far they will be going – same happens to Me. But they are absolutely unaware that what these human beings are, what you tell them, what they will make out of it. Their brains are so sharp that they’ll pick up whatever is wrong for them, and never see whatever is right for them. Shri Rama tried something – it was of no use. Shri Krishna tried something – it was of no use. So we come to Shri Jesus Christ. Nowadays the people who are something else are ardent disciples of Christ. They have no wisdom of any kind. Like mad they are going about. You read there about their organizations, you read about things that they do, you are amazed at it; you see, how can they be disciples of Christ? In no way they have any right on Christ to begin with, because they don’t know anything about Christ. First to know and then to imbibe His qualities are something very, very, I should say, impossible thing these days. Some would say, “Why was He born in a poor family? He was born in a poor family – He should have been born to Mr. Ford.” Some say – I mean, you see, finding faults and criticizing is the only thing left to us now because you can’t do anything else, that’s why. Then they would say, “Why did He get himself crucified?” He didn’t crucify you. He should have crucified you, but actually He crucified himself, that was His mistake. It is also very difficult for human beings to understand incarnations, because they are in juxtaposition. They are very different things, so human beings can’t understand. Now they are there to lead them, they are there to tell them what is to be done; but the way they understand, you see, it’s just absurd. For example, you know in Chicago I met the head of the Hare Rama fellow. Another puzzle he was to Me, really, because he came in a very thin dhoti and it was so very cold, and he was shivering before Me. So I said, “Sir, why are you wearing such a thin dhoti? You are shivering, I am very sorry.” He said, “Why? My guru has told me that I should have a thin dhoti.” “Why?” “To go to heaven, to achieve my ascent.” I said, “Really? He told you like that? But Shri Krishna never wore a thin dhoti.” “But I am not Shri Krishna,” he said – see how the human mind tries to avoid. So now, then he had shaved his head and had a big pony-tail behind. I asked him, “Why have you shaved your head?” So he said, “Because my guru told me that you have to shave your head if you have to go to heaven.” So I said, “But Shri Krishna did not shave His head.” “No, no, but He was incarnation. I have to shave my head so I have to go to heaven.” So I told him, “See, Kabira has said, ‘These sheep are shaven and shorn every year twice. And if they all go to heaven where will be a place left for you?’ ”. So he never understood Me. He got very angry with Me, and he said to Me, “Mother, You are talking ill about my guru.” I said, “I am not talking ill. I am your Mother, I am just asking Me that what’s the use of wearing this thin dhoti, that’s all. A Mother has a right to ask.” He got very angry, he went away. And he’s the head of these Hare Ramas! So to understand the incarnation also you have to be a realized soul, otherwise you cannot, because they look very absurd. Without asking any questions if you can become a realized soul – if you ask questions it’s one degree less – without questioning if you get your realization, without any questions, then you have the highest marks. But if you, after questioning and this thing and that thing, then you have less marks, because your mind is very active, and the person whose mind is active cannot achieve something beyond the mind. You have to achieve it beyond the mind. This is one thing at least if you all understand, I think My work is done. All tricks tried by Shri Krishna, all disciplines put by Shri Rama, all the gurus who tried their level best to tell you what to do, is only to make you a yogi by taking you beyond the mind. And then what happens? Then you are in connection with this all-pervading Power which is looking after you, which protects you, which helps you; in every way you are absolutely in charge of this Paramachaitanya. Now supposing I do not take the citizenship of America – of course I may never take, but supposing. Then this government is not in charge of Me. But if I take, of course they’ll tax Me, do all kinds of things, doesn’t matter, but at least they’ll be in charge. But this Paramchaitanya when it takes over, it is love, is absolute love: love which thinks, understands, coordinates, cooperates, works, and extremely sensitive. It works – I’m sometimes so surprised the way it works, without fail, without making any mistakes. You don’t have to even tell, because you are there. But to believe that we are there also is a difficult task. With all the experiences you should believe that you are there, but that is also quite a difficult task. So when we say they’re established Sahaja yogis then what we mean is this, that they are completely one, under complete charge of Paramachaitanya. That’s what we have to be. If you want to save this country, you have to be that. No argument, no explanation, nothing; no fighting, no strikes, nothing. No placards is needed. You are the ones who will advertise Sahaja Yoga. Every one of you should understand that your life is very important at this juncture. And you have to become that special person who reflects reality through the divine love. May God bless you.

6/10/1997

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Public Program, with Claes Nobel speech, New York I bow to all the seekers of Truth.First of all, I have to say that Truth is what is. You cannot change it, you cannot transform it, you cannot discuss it. It is what it is, it has been what it has been and it will be what it will be. If you accept this fact that we know truths, but we don’t know the absolute Truth. And we have to know that absolute Truth which is described in all the scriptures, because they were all talking about the Truth only.So what is the Truth? The Truth is you are not this body, this mind, these emotions, but you are the pure Spirit. You have to achieve that state of Selfhood. Unless and until you become that, you see all kinds of differences among people, among religions, among nations.So first of all, as you have been described about Kundalini, you need not have blind faith, because blind faith is more dangerous. We have had lots of problems with this blind faith. But you must keep your mind open, because you are seekers, special people, a special category of people, as described by William Blake, who are seeking. And as seekers, you should experience whatever I am saying, and if it works, if you experience that, then as honest people you must believe it, because that’s what you are seeking and this has to spread all over the world.They have already described to you what is the power residing in the triangular bone, which is awakened and you get connected with this all-pervading power of Divine Love. Love is greater than Truth, because Love is the giver of Truth. And this divine power of love is doing all the living work on this earth. For example, you see these beautiful flowers and we take them for granted, we don’t understand how these different flowers are created, with different fragrances, with different heights, with different bushes, so meticulously. Who does all this? If you ask a doctor who runs your heart, he’ll say it is an autonomous nervous system, but who is this “auto”? Who is this auto that runs your heart, which digests your food, works out everything within yourself?So when we turn to religion also, people have not been able to explain it properly, because people to whom it was to be explained were not ready yet, I think. They couldn’t understand. In every word that is written in the scriptures, there is a very, very deep meaning behind it. But as it is, as you know what has happened to all the people who are supposed to be at the helm of affairs of religions.Now the trouble is that whatever religion we take, wherever we are born, where we are is just a chance. You could have been born in any religion, in any city, any village. But you start identifying, it’s a human nature to identify with where you are being born, who were your parents, what society you lived in, everything. All these conditionings make you think that you are that. It all settles down in your mind.If I say something, it should not shock you that mind is a myth, created by us. Through our reactions outside, we are conditioned in our mind, we have also got our ego to protect ourselves and to react. That’s how this mind has been created and this mind which we have created something like we have created a computer and we are now slaves of our mind, we cannot do without it. But to believe in your mind is not that you believe in the truth.Mind can take you to any level of degradation or any level of ascent. But it cannot take you beyond the mind. I’m talking about the realm which exists beyond your mind which you have created. This realm of Divine Love is everywhere, it permeates into everything, it acts into everything. We believe that there is God, that also is like blind faith, we believe that His powers are there, but now the time has come for you to feel it, to know it on your central nervous system. In Sanskrit, there is a word called “Vida”, from which the word “Veda” has come. The first stanza of Vida says, reading all this, that: “If you cannot find out this all-pervading power, it is useless.” Another word that we use is “Buddha”, this comes from the word “bode”, bode means to feel it on your central nervous system. And then Christ also said that you are to be born again, He did not mean that you put a certificate on your head “I am born again”, no!It’s a happening, where there is a breakthrough in your ascent in the evolutionary process. You have reached a human level of human awareness, but you have to go beyond it, and that is what is there within you, the great power of Kundalini.Of course, this knowledge has been used for all kinds of nonsensical things. Today only somebody warned Me that Kundalini, they think, can be awakened through some sort of sex business. Actually Kundalini, if you see, is placed above, see here, above the last chakra of Mooladhara. That means, when Kundalini rises, this chakra just becomes silent. Christ has said: “You have to enter to enter into the kingdom of God, when you are like a child.” Means innocent, all these execution??? habits also drop out, they become absolutely silent when Kundalini rises. So this kind of a myth was started. I am ashamed to say that these Indians, they used it, because they thought that this kind of thing would be more appreciated in Freudian countries and they brought this kind of knowledge. It has nothing to do with these animal instincts. You are a human being and you have to rise above this animal status.Now, as it is, you know that people talk of great Jihads and things like that. They think that by putting people into a kind of a discipline with force, with swords in their hands. That’s not the way you can achieve it. In all your freedom, you have to achieve in your own freedom. You cannot force it. Until you become absolutely free, you will not understand what is your value, you will not understand what you can achieve, what state you can achieve.So when this Kundalini rises, She gives lots of blessings to you. First of all, She is your Mother, She is the one who knows everything about you. Everything is recorded in Her, about your past, about your aspirations, everything. And She knows how to rise. As when you were born, your mother took all the trouble of your birth, in the same way it’s a very beautiful awakening that takes place.Now some people have written that when Kundalini rises, there people become mad and this and that, nonsense! I have never seen, I have been working for at least twenty-seven years, I have never seen even one person suffering like that. How can it be? She is your Mother. And She gives you this second birth, She is very anxious to give you this second birth, specially nowadays in these modern times, it was to be, it is already predicted, that this is the time when many people, who would be seeking Truth in the Himalayas and all kinds of difficult places, will become householders and they will achieve this union with the Divine. This union with the Divine is called Yoga, and it’s called Sahaja, meaning spontaneous, born with you. This happens to you because it’s a matter of your right. As a human being, you have a right to become a higher personality. And you are suffering, you are seeking because you feel inside that there is something higher you have to achieve and you have not yet achieved that.So the one thing that happens first of all when you rise, through the first chakra the Kundalini rises and what She does, She gives a blessing, a special blessing of Mooladhara chakra, by which you become a very moral person, moral in the sense that the way, you see these days, our eyes are moving here and there, the way people are taking, I mean, to the extreme, if you go, I don’t know what to say, because, really, I don’t know from what minds these things come out, but all sorts of nonsense people do in the name of enjoyment.You become a very sober and a dignified person. Because you know yourself, you develop that dignity within you yourself and a calibre of a very high, moral personality comes in. Then the relationships with your sister, with your mother, with your brother, with all other human beings in the society become extremely pure, it’s the pure love that you enjoy. And these stupid ideas which have corrupted our society, they just drop out, it is your role, you can get it in no time. Now whatever you have done or what feelings you have been indulging into, you just forget, the Kundalini will take care of that.The second blessing that you get is that you become extremely creative, extremely creative. The creativity has been shown among Sahaja Yogis all over the world, I need not describe all that. But you become creative and in a very pure personality. It’s like, these days, you see, all kinds of things are created to sort of befool you. They create all kinds of nonsensical things, dirty things, filthy things, which are not digestible by any saintly person. You really become a saint in a way that your creativity becomes so better. See this beautiful cathedral was created by faithfuls who believed that in America one day, this place, there will be so many seekers of Truth and they’ll get the blessings. They did not create it to have some sort of a filthy, dirty, we should say, entertainment. Then you are entertained by something very pure, something very, very beautiful, in the real sense of the word.But the highest thing that happens to you that you develop a new dimension in your awareness which we call as collective consciousness. You become collectively conscious, Jung has talked about it, you become collective, conscious, means you start feeling others on your finger tips. On your finger tips you can feel yourself. Now these chakras, as you have been told, are denoted on your palms and you can feel on your finger tips your own chakras and the chakras of others, the centres of others and your own.So who is the other? You become collectively conscious. I am saying again, you become! It’s not lecturing, it’s not saying. Then see how many problems get solved, you know. For example, we indulge, as he said that we are really creating problems for our Mother Earth, but actually because we are not collectively conscious. Once you are collectively conscious, you are in your awareness, then all the time you think that: “What will harm others? Should I smoke or not? Why should I smoke? It will harm others. Should I start a pub or not? No, because it will harm others.” All these wrong things that we are doing for money or for anything whatsoever, drop. We just don’t do wrong things, just don’t do. Why? Because we are collectively conscious.

Public Program, with Claes Nobel speech, New York I bow to all the seekers of Truth.First of all, I have to say that Truth is what is. You cannot change it, you cannot transform it, you cannot discuss it. It is what it is, it has been what it has been and it will be what it will be. If you accept this fact that we know truths, but we don’t know the absolute Truth. And we have to know that absolute Truth which is described in all the scriptures, because they were all talking about the Truth only.So what is the Truth? The Truth is you are not this body, this mind, these emotions, but you are the pure Spirit. You have to achieve that state of Selfhood. Unless and until you become that, you see all kinds of differences among people, among religions, among nations.So first of all, as you have been described about Kundalini, you need not have blind faith, because blind faith is more dangerous. We have had lots of problems with this blind faith. But you must keep your mind open, because you are seekers, special people, a special category of people, as described by William Blake, who are seeking. And as seekers, you should experience whatever I am saying, and if it works, if you experience that, then as honest people you must believe it, because that’s what you are seeking and this has to spread all over the world.They have already described to you what is the power residing in the triangular bone, which is awakened and you get connected with this all-pervading power of Divine Love. Love is greater than Truth, because Love is the giver of Truth. And this divine power of love is doing all the living work on this earth. For example, you see these beautiful flowers and we take them for granted, we don’t understand how these different flowers are created, with different fragrances, with different heights, with different bushes, so meticulously. Who does all this? If you ask a doctor who runs your heart, he’ll say it is an autonomous nervous system, but who is this “auto”? Who is this auto that runs your heart, which digests your food, works out everything within yourself?So when we turn to religion also, people have not been able to explain it properly, because people to whom it was to be explained were not ready yet, I think. They couldn’t understand. In every word that is written in the scriptures, there is a very, very deep meaning behind it. But as it is, as you know what has happened to all the people who are supposed to be at the helm of affairs of religions.Now the trouble is that whatever religion we take, wherever we are born, where we are is just a chance. You could have been born in any religion, in any city, any village. But you start identifying, it’s a human nature to identify with where you are being born, who were your parents, what society you lived in, everything. All these conditionings make you think that you are that. It all settles down in your mind.If I say something, it should not shock you that mind is a myth, created by us. Through our reactions outside, we are conditioned in our mind, we have also got our ego to protect ourselves and to react. That’s how this mind has been created and this mind which we have created something like we have created a computer and we are now slaves of our mind, we cannot do without it. But to believe in your mind is not that you believe in the truth.Mind can take you to any level of degradation or any level of ascent. But it cannot take you beyond the mind. I’m talking about the realm which exists beyond your mind which you have created. This realm of Divine Love is everywhere, it permeates into everything, it acts into everything. We believe that there is God, that also is like blind faith, we believe that His powers are there, but now the time has come for you to feel it, to know it on your central nervous system. In Sanskrit, there is a word called “Vida”, from which the word “Veda” has come. The first stanza of Vida says, reading all this, that: “If you cannot find out this all-pervading power, it is useless.” Another word that we use is “Buddha”, this comes from the word “bode”, bode means to feel it on your central nervous system. And then Christ also said that you are to be born again, He did not mean that you put a certificate on your head “I am born again”, no!It’s a happening, where there is a breakthrough in your ascent in the evolutionary process. You have reached a human level of human awareness, but you have to go beyond it, and that is what is there within you, the great power of Kundalini.Of course, this knowledge has been used for all kinds of nonsensical things. Today only somebody warned Me that Kundalini, they think, can be awakened through some sort of sex business. Actually Kundalini, if you see, is placed above, see here, above the last chakra of Mooladhara. That means, when Kundalini rises, this chakra just becomes silent. Christ has said: “You have to enter to enter into the kingdom of God, when you are like a child.” Means innocent, all these execution??? habits also drop out, they become absolutely silent when Kundalini rises. So this kind of a myth was started. I am ashamed to say that these Indians, they used it, because they thought that this kind of thing would be more appreciated in Freudian countries and they brought this kind of knowledge. It has nothing to do with these animal instincts. You are a human being and you have to rise above this animal status.Now, as it is, you know that people talk of great Jihads and things like that. They think that by putting people into a kind of a discipline with force, with swords in their hands. That’s not the way you can achieve it. In all your freedom, you have to achieve in your own freedom. You cannot force it. Until you become absolutely free, you will not understand what is your value, you will not understand what you can achieve, what state you can achieve.So when this Kundalini rises, She gives lots of blessings to you. First of all, She is your Mother, She is the one who knows everything about you. Everything is recorded in Her, about your past, about your aspirations, everything. And She knows how to rise. As when you were born, your mother took all the trouble of your birth, in the same way it’s a very beautiful awakening that takes place.Now some people have written that when Kundalini rises, there people become mad and this and that, nonsense! I have never seen, I have been working for at least twenty-seven years, I have never seen even one person suffering like that. How can it be? She is your Mother. And She gives you this second birth, She is very anxious to give you this second birth, specially nowadays in these modern times, it was to be, it is already predicted, that this is the time when many people, who would be seeking Truth in the Himalayas and all kinds of difficult places, will become householders and they will achieve this union with the Divine. This union with the Divine is called Yoga, and it’s called Sahaja, meaning spontaneous, born with you. This happens to you because it’s a matter of your right. As a human being, you have a right to become a higher personality. And you are suffering, you are seeking because you feel inside that there is something higher you have to achieve and you have not yet achieved that.So the one thing that happens first of all when you rise, through the first chakra the Kundalini rises and what She does, She gives a blessing, a special blessing of Mooladhara chakra, by which you become a very moral person, moral in the sense that the way, you see these days, our eyes are moving here and there, the way people are taking, I mean, to the extreme, if you go, I don’t know what to say, because, really, I don’t know from what minds these things come out, but all sorts of nonsense people do in the name of enjoyment.You become a very sober and a dignified person. Because you know yourself, you develop that dignity within you yourself and a calibre of a very high, moral personality comes in. Then the relationships with your sister, with your mother, with your brother, with all other human beings in the society become extremely pure, it’s the pure love that you enjoy. And these stupid ideas which have corrupted our society, they just drop out, it is your role, you can get it in no time. Now whatever you have done or what feelings you have been indulging into, you just forget, the Kundalini will take care of that.The second blessing that you get is that you become extremely creative, extremely creative. The creativity has been shown among Sahaja Yogis all over the world, I need not describe all that. But you become creative and in a very pure personality. It’s like, these days, you see, all kinds of things are created to sort of befool you. They create all kinds of nonsensical things, dirty things, filthy things, which are not digestible by any saintly person. You really become a saint in a way that your creativity becomes so better. See this beautiful cathedral was created by faithfuls who believed that in America one day, this place, there will be so many seekers of Truth and they’ll get the blessings. They did not create it to have some sort of a filthy, dirty, we should say, entertainment. Then you are entertained by something very pure, something very, very beautiful, in the real sense of the word.But the highest thing that happens to you that you develop a new dimension in your awareness which we call as collective consciousness. You become collectively conscious, Jung has talked about it, you become collective, conscious, means you start feeling others on your finger tips. On your finger tips you can feel yourself. Now these chakras, as you have been told, are denoted on your palms and you can feel on your finger tips your own chakras and the chakras of others, the centres of others and your own.So who is the other? You become collectively conscious. I am saying again, you become! It’s not lecturing, it’s not saying. Then see how many problems get solved, you know. For example, we indulge, as he said that we are really creating problems for our Mother Earth, but actually because we are not collectively conscious. Once you are collectively conscious, you are in your awareness, then all the time you think that: “What will harm others? Should I smoke or not? Why should I smoke? It will harm others. Should I start a pub or not? No, because it will harm others.” All these wrong things that we are doing for money or for anything whatsoever, drop. We just don’t do wrong things, just don’t do. Why? Because we are collectively conscious.

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Public Program. Los Angeles (USA), 16 June 1997. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, we have to know what truth is. Absolute truth cannot be changed, cannot be described, cannot be transferred. It is, it will be and it was. So whatever I am going to tell you today, you need not accept it with blind faith. This blind faith has done so much trouble in this world. People are fighting in the name of religion, in the name of God, as if all of them are blind and don’t know what to [do]. So the absolute truth, whatever I tell you, you are not to believe it, because I am telling you. But you have to experience it. If you experience and still you are not been able to settle yourself, with yourself, then no one can help you. But as you are the seekers of truth, you have every right to know it. And at the very outset, I have to tell you, you can’t pay for it. You just can’t pay for it. Those people who are making big money here, in the name of God, in the name of truth, in the name of spirituality, don’t know that you cannot sale it. At least you must know that none of the Incarnations, who came on this Earth like Christ anyone they didn’t charge any money. This is a simple thing which you let you know that what is the truth is the truth and it is above you, your money, status, your personality. So the truth is that you are not this body, this mind, these emotions, these reactions, this ego, but you are pure Spirit. And that is what you have to know. Spirit is the only way, which will enlighten your life, which will give you peace, which will give you wisdom, which will give you protection. Anything that is Divine is coming from the Spirit. So by standing on your head, by fasting yourself, also killing others, you cannot get it. It is something within you. And as you have been told about this power, it exists in all the human beings. Whatever may be the race, whatever may be the religion, whatever may be the nationality? This is based in the triangular bone of every person, only awakening of it is important. Not this knowledge, was not known to Indians or to many other countries. I was surprised in Ukraine, they knew about it. And also in a place which is [ ] Bolivia, [ ] they knew about it. Of course they don’t know how to awaken, but otherwise they knew there is a power within us, which has to arise. It is the way you get connected like this instrument here. If it is not connected to the mains, has no meaning, has no identity. In the same way, unless and until we are connected to the Divine, we have no identity. We may brand ourselves, these and that and that but that is no identity, is falsehood and can change every moment. Now I don’t know how to bring Americans to this subtler understanding of this subject, because by nature, they are shifting. Today I am giving you a lecture is alright and, it is a guru shopping than go to another place or you do another guru shopping, I must tell you very frankly, because America is the only country where Sahaja Yoga has [ ] failed very badly. On the contrary, Russia, you will be amazed, Russia, of course I am not the communist that way, but the operation of communism and not so much of money orientation, consumerism Russians are like clean slates. They don’t know anything about religion, God, nothing. But they have grown inside, and you will be amazed that in one village, called Togliatti, we have twenty one thousands practising Sahaja Yogies. They are just like our yogis, very high level people there. I was amazed how they got it so nicely. And they have no sense of possession at all. You will be amazed that their Government told them, you can have your flats, you can have your cars, they said, no, no, no. You better look after, we don’t want to have headache. They don’t believe in insurances, it’s nothing. Sense of possession is so little, that I think their energy is not wasted on that. And once they have come to Sahaja Yoga, they are very well settled down. So what, five six years back, I think, they said a joke that there was an American Sahaja yogi, who met Russia Sahaja Yogi and the Russian asked how many Sahaja Yogies you have? He said, we have fifty six, so Russian one says, “Oh my God, you have fifty six thousand, we have only twenty one thousand.” It is a very sad thing. I have been, the first country I visited was America. I came to Los Angeles, but somehow I don’t know if you are really seeking the absolute truth or not. And I again, they have called me, have come. These people have hopes. But such a, slow moving train, I tell you that you are amazed, of course India I can’t say about India, because we have traditionally understood, what is spirituality? All the thugs and all the thieves have come here, exported nicely and they are settled down here and they have so many disciples here. I am surprised of course they are sent away, they go into trouble. But what is the wisdom part of it is that we should see what do we get out of our seeking? What are we seeking? What do we want to be? And that one has to learn. [The last], I think twenty six years, twenty seven years, I have been doing Sahaja Yoga. The first country, I visited was America, and for nine years I did not touch it. The reason is, I feel that they are people everywhere. That is not only Americans, are the people [ ] but I feel there are seekers, Lots of seekers in this country. And they are in delusion that they can purchase their spirituality. If you can purchase your guru, he cannot be your guru; he must be your servant that you can pay for it. This is one fact I would all of you to remember, because what happens, I come, give lectures, do this, finished. You are seekers, all your life will be seekers unless until seek the absolute truth. Whether you go from one place to another, whether you go from one guru to another, makes what. You are moving about like this all the time. And the reason why they cannot mature your spirituality because they are so shifting. So one has to mature in a very subtler way and that is that you have to be first connected with this All Pervading Power of Divine Love. We have heard about it. In this Bible it is there. It is there in Koran. Of course in all the Sanskrit literature, by different names, they described, but there is an All Pervading Power of Divine Love. That’s what we have to get connected to. That is the Yoga. That is the unity and you all have right to get it. Not only because you are human beings, but because you are seekers, and seekers of truth. They all have a right to ask for it. And that is why; I come again and again to your country. To see those seekers, which are lost, so many are already lost. But those who are still there, let them have the beauty of their being, the glory of their being, and let them know what they are. For these you don’t have to exert. You can’t read it in the books. It is just happening that takes place this Kundalini rises, very, in a very strictly manner. In the short time, you can feel the Cool Breeze on top of your fontanel bone area and on your finger tips. That is my job. That’s why I am here. But your, is to understand what you are? Unless and until you become realised souls, means connected with this All Pervading Power, all these whatever, Mr. Yogi has told you, has no meaning. All these centres are within you. No doubt. And they look after your physical, mental, emotional being. This happens automatically there, because you are desirous of your ascent. Whatever we do with our mind, we have to know this mind is a myth. Many people, I am told here in this country, are making big money in telling you how to use your mind and how to move pendulum, all sorts of non sense. Do you want to have the power to move the pendulum, so when this power rises, spontaneously within yourself, then these centres which have gone into jeopardy, have created all kinds of problem in you, just get corrected. I am not telling you lies, when I say, Sahaja Yoga has cured, Cancer, even AIDS. And you can get rid of all your allergies and this and that non sense, if you become the Spirit. Because Spirit cannot be attacked, is beyond the mind. But this mind of yours, which you are so proud of, is created by you only. Just like we have created computers, this Spirit is completely finished and you are just living with this mind which guides. One day this computer will become our master, in the same way, we are playing into the hands of this mind. It is created by us through our conditionings or may be by our ego. Now this mind makes you think, think, think, think like mad. And this thinking takes you nowhere. For example, if you start understanding your mind, you will know that it only thinks about the future and about the past, what is the present? Can it bring to the state of present? Past is finished and future doesn’t exist. Present is the reality. If you want to know the reality, you have to be in the present. Now how will you be in the present? As long as you are moving with your mind, you cannot. You have to go beyond the mind. So there is a state which we call as Thoughtless Awareness. [Yung] has described it as, surprisingly as Thoughtless Awareness. That means you go beyond your mind. There is no thought and you are absolutely aware. And the whole personality, you see becomes a personality of emission of light, emission of joy, emission of wisdom because beyond that all these lies. You have not touched that point. That’s why you are worried; you are upset, you are sick. But once you cross over your mind than you are in connection with this all-pervading power. People talk of peace and peace and award of peace and this and that. But I have met them many. They have no peace in their hearts. I don’t know how they got awards. They are very hot tempered people, you know shaky type, can’t think it. This peace award, peace is within and that is what we have to do. Instead talking about peace, create peace in human beings, by transforming them. If you are standing in the water, the waves of the water rise and fall, rise and fall, that is what happens to you, that thoughts jumping on your [ ] of your thoughts. You are and you are afraid of the waves. But supposing you get on to a boat than you can watch them. And you can enjoy them. But supposing you learn how to swim, than you can jump in and save many others who are still lost. This is exactly what happens in Sahaja Yoga. That you go beyond your mind. And you see your stupid mind and you laugh at it. You laugh at it. And you are at peace, because when the Kundalini rises these thoughts get elongated and there is a space in between. That is the space where there is peace. So your attention stops at that point, where there is peace. You become extremely peaceful. And you don’t have to worry about your own protection. People say Mother if you are peaceful and somebody attacks you, what will happen? All right if somebody attacks you there is this all pervading power that can protect. There are so many examples in Sahaja Yoga, where this power has saved so many people. Now we can trust any kind of nonsense but the truth is that this power protects, because it loves you, it cares for you. Recently when I was coming at the airport, four Sahaja yogis and their little child came, they had tears in their eyes and I said what’s the matter. They said Mother, You know, we are protected. They had a very bad accident and this car was finished and everything was absolutely useless. Even to call it a car while all of them escaped, without a scratch. This is only one of the examples I am telling you. This I have to tell you because otherwise you won’t understand how important it is? This is nothing. This is nothing that you get. You get your own powers, because you become collectively conscious, collectively conscious. You can feel others on your finger tips their chakras and you can feel your own chakras also on your finger tips. If you know how to correct these centres, you can correct others also. You can cure others also. You can give realisation to others. That is how Sahaja Yoga spreads. And you will be amazed, how many other qualities you get. I don’t know how far Yogi has told about every chakra’s. But every chakras, the centre when enlighten gives you special, very special qualities. For example we have say somebody who could not even write an essay, he started writing books. Another one who was Chartered Accountant, who never knew what is, language is, is started writing poetry. All kinds of creativity, comes to you. Secondly you become religious, you become, it is not question of just saying I am Christian, I am Hindu, I am Muslim, no you become. Means in you, religion innately acts. I never told anybody don’t murder, don’t kill, all these don’ts of the Ten Commandments that are given, but it automatically as happens. People just don’t like to do; they don’t want to do anything that is not religious. Religious doesn’t mean that you dress up well and go to Church, come back home and sing few [ ] but religion is within yourself and that religion of Divine Love, which is pure, which is absolutely pure. So this Kundalini purifies you completely. Her purification helps you to see the world in a different way. You become the witness. Witness of the whole drama, don’t get involved into but you see the drama and you know the solutions. Also there is this power all the time which is looking after you and help you. Believe me there is this power, once you become one with that power than believe me you are all the time filled up with this power and this power looks after, gives you wisdom. Everything that you could think of, but you believe there is such a power itself, very difficult for human beings. This is the big problem. But supposing I say there is supposing, now you can verify, you can verify if such a power is there or not. And after verification, if you believe there is such a power of love, than all your problems will be solved. You go beyond all these concepts of stupidity, which is divisive. Anything, you know can divide us that’s typical of human beings. They want to find out ways, how we are different from others all the time. Because they are in circle by their conditioning, by their ego, I mean their mind. From the childhood, you know gets into their head; they can’t get out of it. I see the problems of this country are nothing but of their mind. All these problem cannot be solved by forming organisations, by strikes, by no no no a human being has to be transformed. Once human being is transformed, than he becomes a very very beautiful personality. You don’t have to fight; this power will fight for you. You don’t have to argue; don’t have to do anything that’s why calling it Sahaja. Saha means with and Ja is born. [Born] with you is this power, which you have to achieve. Now this Kundalini is your mother. Also in many religions, they don’t even believe in mother as Goddess, but there is. This Kundalini is a mother. She is very careful; when she is giving you a second birth like your mother borrow all the problems in your childhood, in your child birth. In the same way she does everything very smoothly, very beautifully. And she gives you this connection with this Divine. So you develop a new awareness, a new dimension of your awareness call as collective consciousness. When there is nobody is the other just think of that. Just think that this finger is hurt, the whole body feel sorry for that. When you become part and parcel of the whole, when the macrocosm become microcosm become again I will use the word become, become, become. It’s not imaginary, it’s not only thing. Than who will fight, who will fight, who you are. The same as the other is. Just think how you people can solve the problem. Not much is needed; just you become connected with this Divine Power. And respect yourself; you have to respect yourself as Divine people. And you have to get out of all the conditionings you have added and you have to get out of all these non sensical ideas, which are separating you. You are the leaders who will take this country away from all kinds of madness that is going on. Every country has some madness, it is not yours, they are different types that is all. But what I find, once they get their realisation, we have now Sahaja Yoga working in sixty five countries, in some countries very very strong. But when they meet each other, I mean you cannot make out, way they are friendly, the way they are joyous and such pure love. There is no incident of some body’s husband running with somebody’s wife like that. I have not known such an incident non sensical one. We have marriages every year about at least hundred marriages. One in a million, I should say one in a thousand might not work out. International marriages and the children that are born are really the Saints, who are trying to take birth with people who are realised souls. Very different type of society it is. They look all normal people except that they have glint in their eyes, which shines, that they have vibrations in their hands. That their attitude is very different. Such a nice race is going to come that is what is blessed. This is the Age of Aquarius. And Kundalini has got the Aquarius as its sign. This is the specially I called the Blossom Time. Because so many seeker are borned in this time, special time, when this Kalyug, this modern times has come. Nobody seems to be happy. Only at this time these flowers are going to become the fruits. That is what you are. You don’t know what you are. Don’t judge yourself by your own ego or by other’s judgements and criticism. But you are all beautiful seekers. William Black has said that there will be a special category of people who will be borned. They will be man of God and they will know the Divine. This is the time that has come. For all of you, every one of you in America, specially, specially Los Angeles, is the word used for Angeles. So there must be Angeles around. I am sure. I am looking around for them so above all everything is this pure love. Even beyond truth it is. So please know that this Creator, God almighty, who has created you, is not going to destroy this World. There are many like this organisation, who talk, now we are all going to be destroyed you see, frightening everyone. As [ if ] those who say so are going to save it. Don’t believe all these stupid talks and bombastic advertisements. Try to understand how who has brought u have become you to this level of human awareness is going to destroy. He is so great. He has made everything is going to destroy. He is so great. He has made everything so beautifully within us. Only we have diverted our attention to things, which are but not so important that doesn’t mean that you have to give up your family, give up your house. You stand on your heads and go to Himalaya. Nothing of the kind. I have known some people who are, have sold their houses, takes out their children out of the school to give money to the gurus. I mean use your brains. How could you that. As a Mother I feel very sad that why should you suffer so. Such ignorance about truth.Such ignorance about understanding about yourself, you must understand that this is absolutely very easy as you have become human beings without doing any things Sahaja. In the same way you are going to be the higher being without doing anything, without paying for anything. Is something that has to happen within? And you have to become something. So lastly I would say because, Yogi, I don’t know what he has told you, when you become one with this Divine Power. You get filled with joy. And joy is singular and not like happiness or unhappiness. It is joy, a singular. It is to be experienced. You enjoy every small small things. It is a feeling, which is to be enjoyed. And has to be experienced, will be amazed that when this happened, you don’t run after non sensical things and worries and I should say destructive ideas. Enjoy yourself; you enjoy everyone you enjoy every moment of your life. Even the absurdities, stupidities, you enjoy and cruelty when you see you can destroy. Not you but through you this Divine Power. I don’t know if you are aware world is changing very fast. All kinds of people are getting exposed. So many things are happening. By the Year 2000, I don’t know how many people will be in [Jailed]. I don’t know, if you have sufficient jails are not? How many people will be exposed and punished? And how many will be swimming in the ocean of joy. This is not a false promise. You will get your realisation, just now. But as I said, you have to little bid humble down. If you have come here to criticise than Kundalini won’t rise. She is very clever. We have to humble down little bid. The thinking that I have to be that beyond the mind, have to be one with this All Pervading Divine Power. And what you feel is the Cool Breeze. Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost, as described in the Bible. Cool Breeze coming on your finger tips. Cool Breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area. And you become thoughtless. It is something you have not known so far. Nobody might have told this thing. There are not many books, so you have to first of all verifying by experiencing. Do not deny it. Because you have thought that something is different as funny. It will take hardly ten minutes. I will request you those who do not want to have it, can leave the hall. Because it cannot be forced, it cannot be forced. You have to accept that you want to become one with the Divine. This is what you have to accept. It cannot be forced. It cannot push you there. So those who do not want to have their self realisation, can leave the hall, will be very kind of them. It will take hardly ten minutes as I told you. Thank you very much.

Public Program. Los Angeles (USA), 16 June 1997. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, we have to know what truth is. Absolute truth cannot be changed, cannot be described, cannot be transferred. It is, it will be and it was. So whatever I am going to tell you today, you need not accept it with blind faith. This blind faith has done so much trouble in this world. People are fighting in the name of religion, in the name of God, as if all of them are blind and don’t know what to [do]. So the absolute truth, whatever I tell you, you are not to believe it, because I am telling you. But you have to experience it. If you experience and still you are not been able to settle yourself, with yourself, then no one can help you. But as you are the seekers of truth, you have every right to know it. And at the very outset, I have to tell you, you can’t pay for it. You just can’t pay for it. Those people who are making big money here, in the name of God, in the name of truth, in the name of spirituality, don’t know that you cannot sale it. At least you must know that none of the Incarnations, who came on this Earth like Christ anyone they didn’t charge any money. This is a simple thing which you let you know that what is the truth is the truth and it is above you, your money, status, your personality. So the truth is that you are not this body, this mind, these emotions, these reactions, this ego, but you are pure Spirit. And that is what you have to know. Spirit is the only way, which will enlighten your life, which will give you peace, which will give you wisdom, which will give you protection. Anything that is Divine is coming from the Spirit. So by standing on your head, by fasting yourself, also killing others, you cannot get it. It is something within you. And as you have been told about this power, it exists in all the human beings. Whatever may be the race, whatever may be the religion, whatever may be the nationality? This is based in the triangular bone of every person, only awakening of it is important. Not this knowledge, was not known to Indians or to many other countries. I was surprised in Ukraine, they knew about it. And also in a place which is [ ] Bolivia, [ ] they knew about it. Of course they don’t know how to awaken, but otherwise they knew there is a power within us, which has to arise. It is the way you get connected like this instrument here. If it is not connected to the mains, has no meaning, has no identity. In the same way, unless and until we are connected to the Divine, we have no identity. We may brand ourselves, these and that and that but that is no identity, is falsehood and can change every moment. Now I don’t know how to bring Americans to this subtler understanding of this subject, because by nature, they are shifting. Today I am giving you a lecture is alright and, it is a guru shopping than go to another place or you do another guru shopping, I must tell you very frankly, because America is the only country where Sahaja Yoga has [ ] failed very badly. On the contrary, Russia, you will be amazed, Russia, of course I am not the communist that way, but the operation of communism and not so much of money orientation, consumerism Russians are like clean slates. They don’t know anything about religion, God, nothing. But they have grown inside, and you will be amazed that in one village, called Togliatti, we have twenty one thousands practising Sahaja Yogies. They are just like our yogis, very high level people there. I was amazed how they got it so nicely. And they have no sense of possession at all. You will be amazed that their Government told them, you can have your flats, you can have your cars, they said, no, no, no. You better look after, we don’t want to have headache. They don’t believe in insurances, it’s nothing. Sense of possession is so little, that I think their energy is not wasted on that. And once they have come to Sahaja Yoga, they are very well settled down. So what, five six years back, I think, they said a joke that there was an American Sahaja yogi, who met Russia Sahaja Yogi and the Russian asked how many Sahaja Yogies you have? He said, we have fifty six, so Russian one says, “Oh my God, you have fifty six thousand, we have only twenty one thousand.” It is a very sad thing. I have been, the first country I visited was America. I came to Los Angeles, but somehow I don’t know if you are really seeking the absolute truth or not. And I again, they have called me, have come. These people have hopes. But such a, slow moving train, I tell you that you are amazed, of course India I can’t say about India, because we have traditionally understood, what is spirituality? All the thugs and all the thieves have come here, exported nicely and they are settled down here and they have so many disciples here. I am surprised of course they are sent away, they go into trouble. But what is the wisdom part of it is that we should see what do we get out of our seeking? What are we seeking? What do we want to be? And that one has to learn. [The last], I think twenty six years, twenty seven years, I have been doing Sahaja Yoga. The first country, I visited was America, and for nine years I did not touch it. The reason is, I feel that they are people everywhere. That is not only Americans, are the people [ ] but I feel there are seekers, Lots of seekers in this country. And they are in delusion that they can purchase their spirituality. If you can purchase your guru, he cannot be your guru; he must be your servant that you can pay for it. This is one fact I would all of you to remember, because what happens, I come, give lectures, do this, finished. You are seekers, all your life will be seekers unless until seek the absolute truth. Whether you go from one place to another, whether you go from one guru to another, makes what. You are moving about like this all the time. And the reason why they cannot mature your spirituality because they are so shifting. So one has to mature in a very subtler way and that is that you have to be first connected with this All Pervading Power of Divine Love. We have heard about it. In this Bible it is there. It is there in Koran. Of course in all the Sanskrit literature, by different names, they described, but there is an All Pervading Power of Divine Love. That’s what we have to get connected to. That is the Yoga. That is the unity and you all have right to get it. Not only because you are human beings, but because you are seekers, and seekers of truth. They all have a right to ask for it. And that is why; I come again and again to your country. To see those seekers, which are lost, so many are already lost. But those who are still there, let them have the beauty of their being, the glory of their being, and let them know what they are. For these you don’t have to exert. You can’t read it in the books. It is just happening that takes place this Kundalini rises, very, in a very strictly manner. In the short time, you can feel the Cool Breeze on top of your fontanel bone area and on your finger tips. That is my job. That’s why I am here. But your, is to understand what you are? Unless and until you become realised souls, means connected with this All Pervading Power, all these whatever, Mr. Yogi has told you, has no meaning. All these centres are within you. No doubt. And they look after your physical, mental, emotional being. This happens automatically there, because you are desirous of your ascent. Whatever we do with our mind, we have to know this mind is a myth. Many people, I am told here in this country, are making big money in telling you how to use your mind and how to move pendulum, all sorts of non sense. Do you want to have the power to move the pendulum, so when this power rises, spontaneously within yourself, then these centres which have gone into jeopardy, have created all kinds of problem in you, just get corrected. I am not telling you lies, when I say, Sahaja Yoga has cured, Cancer, even AIDS. And you can get rid of all your allergies and this and that non sense, if you become the Spirit. Because Spirit cannot be attacked, is beyond the mind. But this mind of yours, which you are so proud of, is created by you only. Just like we have created computers, this Spirit is completely finished and you are just living with this mind which guides. One day this computer will become our master, in the same way, we are playing into the hands of this mind. It is created by us through our conditionings or may be by our ego. Now this mind makes you think, think, think, think like mad. And this thinking takes you nowhere. For example, if you start understanding your mind, you will know that it only thinks about the future and about the past, what is the present? Can it bring to the state of present? Past is finished and future doesn’t exist. Present is the reality. If you want to know the reality, you have to be in the present. Now how will you be in the present? As long as you are moving with your mind, you cannot. You have to go beyond the mind. So there is a state which we call as Thoughtless Awareness. [Yung] has described it as, surprisingly as Thoughtless Awareness. That means you go beyond your mind. There is no thought and you are absolutely aware. And the whole personality, you see becomes a personality of emission of light, emission of joy, emission of wisdom because beyond that all these lies. You have not touched that point. That’s why you are worried; you are upset, you are sick. But once you cross over your mind than you are in connection with this all-pervading power. People talk of peace and peace and award of peace and this and that. But I have met them many. They have no peace in their hearts. I don’t know how they got awards. They are very hot tempered people, you know shaky type, can’t think it. This peace award, peace is within and that is what we have to do. Instead talking about peace, create peace in human beings, by transforming them. If you are standing in the water, the waves of the water rise and fall, rise and fall, that is what happens to you, that thoughts jumping on your [ ] of your thoughts. You are and you are afraid of the waves. But supposing you get on to a boat than you can watch them. And you can enjoy them. But supposing you learn how to swim, than you can jump in and save many others who are still lost. This is exactly what happens in Sahaja Yoga. That you go beyond your mind. And you see your stupid mind and you laugh at it. You laugh at it. And you are at peace, because when the Kundalini rises these thoughts get elongated and there is a space in between. That is the space where there is peace. So your attention stops at that point, where there is peace. You become extremely peaceful. And you don’t have to worry about your own protection. People say Mother if you are peaceful and somebody attacks you, what will happen? All right if somebody attacks you there is this all pervading power that can protect. There are so many examples in Sahaja Yoga, where this power has saved so many people. Now we can trust any kind of nonsense but the truth is that this power protects, because it loves you, it cares for you. Recently when I was coming at the airport, four Sahaja yogis and their little child came, they had tears in their eyes and I said what’s the matter. They said Mother, You know, we are protected. They had a very bad accident and this car was finished and everything was absolutely useless. Even to call it a car while all of them escaped, without a scratch. This is only one of the examples I am telling you. This I have to tell you because otherwise you won’t understand how important it is? This is nothing. This is nothing that you get. You get your own powers, because you become collectively conscious, collectively conscious. You can feel others on your finger tips their chakras and you can feel your own chakras also on your finger tips. If you know how to correct these centres, you can correct others also. You can cure others also. You can give realisation to others. That is how Sahaja Yoga spreads. And you will be amazed, how many other qualities you get. I don’t know how far Yogi has told about every chakra’s. But every chakras, the centre when enlighten gives you special, very special qualities. For example we have say somebody who could not even write an essay, he started writing books. Another one who was Chartered Accountant, who never knew what is, language is, is started writing poetry. All kinds of creativity, comes to you. Secondly you become religious, you become, it is not question of just saying I am Christian, I am Hindu, I am Muslim, no you become. Means in you, religion innately acts. I never told anybody don’t murder, don’t kill, all these don’ts of the Ten Commandments that are given, but it automatically as happens. People just don’t like to do; they don’t want to do anything that is not religious. Religious doesn’t mean that you dress up well and go to Church, come back home and sing few [ ] but religion is within yourself and that religion of Divine Love, which is pure, which is absolutely pure. So this Kundalini purifies you completely. Her purification helps you to see the world in a different way. You become the witness. Witness of the whole drama, don’t get involved into but you see the drama and you know the solutions. Also there is this power all the time which is looking after you and help you. Believe me there is this power, once you become one with that power than believe me you are all the time filled up with this power and this power looks after, gives you wisdom. Everything that you could think of, but you believe there is such a power itself, very difficult for human beings. This is the big problem. But supposing I say there is supposing, now you can verify, you can verify if such a power is there or not. And after verification, if you believe there is such a power of love, than all your problems will be solved. You go beyond all these concepts of stupidity, which is divisive. Anything, you know can divide us that’s typical of human beings. They want to find out ways, how we are different from others all the time. Because they are in circle by their conditioning, by their ego, I mean their mind. From the childhood, you know gets into their head; they can’t get out of it. I see the problems of this country are nothing but of their mind. All these problem cannot be solved by forming organisations, by strikes, by no no no a human being has to be transformed. Once human being is transformed, than he becomes a very very beautiful personality. You don’t have to fight; this power will fight for you. You don’t have to argue; don’t have to do anything that’s why calling it Sahaja. Saha means with and Ja is born. [Born] with you is this power, which you have to achieve. Now this Kundalini is your mother. Also in many religions, they don’t even believe in mother as Goddess, but there is. This Kundalini is a mother. She is very careful; when she is giving you a second birth like your mother borrow all the problems in your childhood, in your child birth. In the same way she does everything very smoothly, very beautifully. And she gives you this connection with this Divine. So you develop a new awareness, a new dimension of your awareness call as collective consciousness. When there is nobody is the other just think of that. Just think that this finger is hurt, the whole body feel sorry for that. When you become part and parcel of the whole, when the macrocosm become microcosm become again I will use the word become, become, become. It’s not imaginary, it’s not only thing. Than who will fight, who will fight, who you are. The same as the other is. Just think how you people can solve the problem. Not much is needed; just you become connected with this Divine Power. And respect yourself; you have to respect yourself as Divine people. And you have to get out of all the conditionings you have added and you have to get out of all these non sensical ideas, which are separating you. You are the leaders who will take this country away from all kinds of madness that is going on. Every country has some madness, it is not yours, they are different types that is all. But what I find, once they get their realisation, we have now Sahaja Yoga working in sixty five countries, in some countries very very strong. But when they meet each other, I mean you cannot make out, way they are friendly, the way they are joyous and such pure love. There is no incident of some body’s husband running with somebody’s wife like that. I have not known such an incident non sensical one. We have marriages every year about at least hundred marriages. One in a million, I should say one in a thousand might not work out. International marriages and the children that are born are really the Saints, who are trying to take birth with people who are realised souls. Very different type of society it is. They look all normal people except that they have glint in their eyes, which shines, that they have vibrations in their hands. That their attitude is very different. Such a nice race is going to come that is what is blessed. This is the Age of Aquarius. And Kundalini has got the Aquarius as its sign. This is the specially I called the Blossom Time. Because so many seeker are borned in this time, special time, when this Kalyug, this modern times has come. Nobody seems to be happy. Only at this time these flowers are going to become the fruits. That is what you are. You don’t know what you are. Don’t judge yourself by your own ego or by other’s judgements and criticism. But you are all beautiful seekers. William Black has said that there will be a special category of people who will be borned. They will be man of God and they will know the Divine. This is the time that has come. For all of you, every one of you in America, specially, specially Los Angeles, is the word used for Angeles. So there must be Angeles around. I am sure. I am looking around for them so above all everything is this pure love. Even beyond truth it is. So please know that this Creator, God almighty, who has created you, is not going to destroy this World. There are many like this organisation, who talk, now we are all going to be destroyed you see, frightening everyone. As [ if ] those who say so are going to save it. Don’t believe all these stupid talks and bombastic advertisements. Try to understand how who has brought u have become you to this level of human awareness is going to destroy. He is so great. He has made everything is going to destroy. He is so great. He has made everything so beautifully within us. Only we have diverted our attention to things, which are but not so important that doesn’t mean that you have to give up your family, give up your house. You stand on your heads and go to Himalaya. Nothing of the kind. I have known some people who are, have sold their houses, takes out their children out of the school to give money to the gurus. I mean use your brains. How could you that. As a Mother I feel very sad that why should you suffer so. Such ignorance about truth.Such ignorance about understanding about yourself, you must understand that this is absolutely very easy as you have become human beings without doing any things Sahaja. In the same way you are going to be the higher being without doing anything, without paying for anything. Is something that has to happen within? And you have to become something. So lastly I would say because, Yogi, I don’t know what he has told you, when you become one with this Divine Power. You get filled with joy. And joy is singular and not like happiness or unhappiness. It is joy, a singular. It is to be experienced. You enjoy every small small things. It is a feeling, which is to be enjoyed. And has to be experienced, will be amazed that when this happened, you don’t run after non sensical things and worries and I should say destructive ideas. Enjoy yourself; you enjoy everyone you enjoy every moment of your life. Even the absurdities, stupidities, you enjoy and cruelty when you see you can destroy. Not you but through you this Divine Power. I don’t know if you are aware world is changing very fast. All kinds of people are getting exposed. So many things are happening. By the Year 2000, I don’t know how many people will be in [Jailed]. I don’t know, if you have sufficient jails are not? How many people will be exposed and punished? And how many will be swimming in the ocean of joy. This is not a false promise. You will get your realisation, just now. But as I said, you have to little bid humble down. If you have come here to criticise than Kundalini won’t rise. She is very clever. We have to humble down little bid. The thinking that I have to be that beyond the mind, have to be one with this All Pervading Divine Power. And what you feel is the Cool Breeze. Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost, as described in the Bible. Cool Breeze coming on your finger tips. Cool Breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area. And you become thoughtless. It is something you have not known so far. Nobody might have told this thing. There are not many books, so you have to first of all verifying by experiencing. Do not deny it. Because you have thought that something is different as funny. It will take hardly ten minutes. I will request you those who do not want to have it, can leave the hall. Because it cannot be forced, it cannot be forced. You have to accept that you want to become one with the Divine. This is what you have to accept. It cannot be forced. It cannot push you there. So those who do not want to have their self realisation, can leave the hall, will be very kind of them. It will take hardly ten minutes as I told you. Thank you very much.

6/18/1997

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Absolute Truth is to be felt on your central nervous system

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Public Program, Berkeley (United States), June 18th, 1997 [The talk starts at 35:05]I bow to all the seekers of absolute truth. At the very outset, I have to say that truth is truth. This absolute truth cannot be changed because it is absolute. It cannot be transformed. It cannot be explained because it cannot be described. Truth has to be experienced. It’s an experience. In Sanskrit language, we have a word called Veda It comes from the word ‘vida’. ‘Vida’ means to know on your central nervous system. Like, I can feel this [armchair], In the same way, you must know the truth on your fingertips. ‘Bodh” also, from where the word Buddha has come, is that enlightenment; you have to feel it on your central nervous system. So, this absolute truth is what it was and is and will be. But I would request you not to believe Me because this blind faith has caused so much trouble to us. All the people are fighting all over the world with this blind faith. They believe in this and they believe in that, believe in that. This kind of faith is not going to help us. We have to feel it ourselves and experience it. Unless and until you experience, please don’t have faith in me or in Sahaja Yoga. Very important it is to understand that this absolute truth is beyond your mind. We think no end of our mind, and all those who came from my country as well as from your own country, to deceive you and make money out of you, have used their mind very well. And your mind could not detect it. Even today, they are there. So, for you to see what is the truth, you must know that you cannot purchase it with money. This is very difficult to digest it. Many people told me in America, “Mother you can never be successful you cannot get people because they just believe that the person who doesn’t take money has no validity.” My experience was so horrible! In Boston, they asked me, in the television, “How many Roll Royce’s you have?” [Laughter] “I have none”. I said, “My husband has only one car”. “So, you are not in the business?” “No”. Then they said, “We cannot, we are sorry, you have to be in the business”. So, all these mental acrobats that have been going on in this country. I’ve been hoping to come to Berkeley that everybody told me that Berkeley is a place where there are people who are truly seeking the truth and they are revolutionary. They do not accept anything that is just established. Imagine after so many years, 27 years, I am coming to Berkeley, where I was really very anxious to come. So, now the time has come that we have to know the truth. We have to know the absolute truth. I call it as a blossom time, because I find there are so many seekers of truth all over the world. And this time has come for these flowers to become the fruit. Very simple thing to understand that this is done by a Power within you as explained to you. Whether you believe it or not, it is there. This power has to be awakened, that’s all. A very simple thing, a journey of three to four feet that’s all. But such a simple thing, people don’t want to accept. If you say, “Eat this way”, they’ll say, “No, why not this and this way?” Because of this mind! This mind is the one which has created real problems for us. I am told some gentleman is making big money by telling that how to project this mind here, and project mind there. It’s like a cocoon. In a cocoon, you dash here and dash there. [You have to get out of it]. When they said, “You are to be born again”. Clearly, that doesn’t mean that you put a sign board here: ‘born again’. No. Born again means something has to happen to your consciousness, to your awareness. You have to be truthful about it. How can you be satisfied with something which is not the truth? So, what is the truth? Truth, if you understand, is not this body, this mind, these emotions, these thoughts, and this ego. But it is that you are the pure Spirit. You are the pure Spirit. You have to become the pure Spirit, that’s all. This is what is the second birth. In the Bible, Christ has said, “You are to be born again”. In every religion, it is said that you have to be born again. In Sanskrit language, to a realized soul they call it a ‘dvijaha’. Means to be born twice and they call a bird also a Vijaha because it is in an egg state and then it becomes a bird. There has to be a complete transformation. If you see the problems of our age, there are many, but the main is this that human beings are to be transformed. They have to be transformed beyond this mind. This mind is created by us through our conditionings and our ego just just like you create computer and then you become slave of that computer. In the same way this mind is also working so it is said that you have to go beyond this mind. When you go into the realm of divinity then you can watch your mind very clearly - how it works, what it does, where does it take you? This power of kundalini really passes through six centres. The seventh centre it does not pass. Six centres it passes into. It pierces through the fontanelle bone area and gets you connected to all pervading power of divine love. We have never felt it before. We have never felt it. Christ's disciples have said that the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost. In the Quran is called as rue. In other Indian scriptures it is called as paramachaitanya, bramachaitanya. Everywhere it is described this subtle power which we do not feel normally but which exists, which looks after us. Which nourishes us. Which thinks. Which protects. Above all it loves you. It's such a beautiful experience it is to be one with that Divine Power which is created for us there. And please remember that God Almighty who has created us will not allow us to be destroyed. We may try our level best to destroy ourselves but He will not and nobody should be under the fear that this world is coming to an end. There are many organisations which are preaching this world is coming to an end and for that we should give all our money to this organisation which will not come to an end perhaps. All these ideas when they propound and all these ideas they talk about – there's no proof of it. There's no sense in it. Like the other day one family came to Me and said one gentleman was moving a pendulum, something sort of like that and we followed him. We sold our house. We took out our children from the school. I said, “What's gone wrong with America?” We have no brains to understand. How can we accept such a nonsense as that? But they did and now they are in trouble. So many people have looted you because you don't know what to expect of a person who is spiritual. How can you purchase your guru. He's not your servant. If you understand this point I tell you half of them will run away and so many will just close their doors. So I must tell you in Sahaja Yoga you don't have to pay and if you think that you have to pay then I must say that it's not going to work out. Money is created by human beings not by the Divine. So when this kundalini rises, passes through six centres, these six centres are responsible for our physical, mental and emotional being and also the spiritual being. When they are going to [unclear] then this kundalini when She arises, she integrates them. She nourishes them and connects them to that Power which is all the time flowing within us. One may say, “How are we to believe that there is this power”? Now look at these flowers. Look at these flowers. Have you ever thought what a miracle it is. These flowers of different colours, of different nature, of different fragrance are brought in by whom. You ask the doctor, “Who runs your heart”? They say it is autonomous nervous system. So you ask them, “Who is this auto”? Who is this auto which is running my heart? Who is [ unclear] my heart?” He cannot answer because he has no answer. But you can find the answer. You can find the answer to your question. It's not going to be difficult at all this, one should understand. This is Sahaja. Saha means with and Ja means born with you. You have the right. You have a birthright to have your self-realisation, your enlightenment because you are born in this Kali Juga. In these modern times it's already predicted that at this time only people who are seeking God or seeking the truth will one day find it during this special time. That's why they call it an Aquarius age. But coming to the point what happens to you, what should happen to you? First and foremost thing happens to you is that if you have any physical ailment you get cured. You do get cured. We have a hospital in India where they recorded many patients have been cured of very difficult and incurable diseases. Because you go to the basis. Supposing you want to treat a tree and start treating the leaves. It won't work out you have to go to the roots. So what I am talking to you about the roots on which our life depends. This is the first thing that happens that your physical being is cured. And the second thing is you become a very peaceful person. The modern problem of stress and strain is understood because as you see there, that there are two channels which one brings the ego and another brings the super-ego. From both the sides they cover your head and all your worries, all your problems get stuck up there. They don't know how to get out of it. But once the kundalini opens you, stress and strain is all finished. I'll explain the other way. If you are thinking the waves of thought rise and fall, rise and fall and we are jumping on the cusp of these thoughts. Actually we think of the past or the future. We cannot think of present, this moment. We cannot make our attention stand at the present. So we are not with the reality because reality is in the present. But once these thoughts are elongated by the kundalini a space is created. In Sanskrit they call it vilamba. It means a pause and in that state you become – again I say, you become. It's no lecture, nothing, it's just happening that you become absolutely silent within; thoughtlessly aware, which Jung has also described. You just become thoughtlessly aware. When you are thoughtlessly aware – absolutely peaceful within yourself. Absolutely. People are winning awards for peace and this and that, for peace and organisations for peace but themselves are not peaceful. They have no peace within themselves. How can they emit peace? Such a person who has become peaceful within emits peace, creates peace and lives a life of comfortably peace and non-violence. This peace is so powerful, so powerful that it protects you. It protects you. As soon as you see a crisis you become silent and then the nourishment comes from this peace that you are. And you are amazed how problems get solved because this peace is blessed by this all-pervading Divine Power. So the first thing that happens to your awareness is that you become a peaceful personality. In that state all these ideas of race and nations and religion and all that will just vanish. You really become a religious person, really in the sense you don't do anything wrong, don't harm anybody. I don't have to tell you, don't, don't, don't. It just happens. At that stage people just drop all their bad habits. I don't want to name them because you may not like. But just happens to you that you become so peaceful, so satisfied, that you don't want to take to anything. Just it happens automatically because you become peaceful and that you are now enlightened. But when the kundalini passes through your fontanelle bone then a new awareness comes into you, which is the collective consciousness. Collective consciousness is you can feel the other on your fingertips. You can feel the chakras of others on your fingertips, whether that person is dead, living or maybe away from you. You can feel it. Very nicely you can understand what's wrong with that person. Now anybody who comes from jail from India and wear their, what you call, saffron clothes – immediately everybody will go at his feet. They don't know – they don't know how to find if this man is a thief or a crook, no way. But as soon as you are a realised soul you can feel it on your fingertips. You might get little burning. You might get little tingling, and immediately if you de-code it, what is in Sahaja Yoga you'll be amazed how you will find out what sort of a person that is. Also you can feel your own chakras, your own centres. Some of them are in jeopardy so the kundalini comes back again and again and tries to cure it. And when it cures then you become so sensitive. Really sensitive. You can feel what's wrong with yourself and with others. And you know how to cure yourself. You can cure yourself. Nobody has to tell you how to cure. Without spending a single pie you can do it. But despite that people are thinking that – no, no, no, no. Let us see something else might be there. You go to somebody like that immediately you can feel that this man is a crook. He doesn't have the truth with him. But you have to establish yourself. It hardly takes about a month or so to absolutely become established Sahaja Yogis. Now you have powers to raise the kundalini of others. To cure others because this power of love which is above everything else always makes you a very generous personality. You want to help others and you find solutions how to help others. You just do not accept anything because you know what is right and what is wrong, what is absolute. On your fingertips you can feel the absolute truth. You take ten small children and you tie up their eyes if they are realised souls, they will always say the same thing. Supposing they say that this finger is catching. That means that this fellow has got a heart trouble. If you ask him, “Have you got a heart trouble?”. “Yes, but how do you know?” And everybody will feel the same. Everybody will know the same thing. There's no question of quarrelling, fighting, or discussing or arguments. Everyone feels the same way. Everyone knows the same way and why should they then quarrel or fight? They leave alone the war. When nobody is the other. When you are part and parcel of the whole, the macrocosm becomes the microcosm. When you become part and parcel of the whole why would you – why would you try – why would you try to hurt another who is the other? Does one finger hurt another finger? The problem of war can be solved without any trouble if we have Sahaja Yogis in that area where there is a possibility of creating a war or creating a problem. The another problem is of a moral I think, degradation that we have. This moral degradation is not possible through any kind of discipline. You don't have to go to Himalayas, stand on your head and stand on one leg or do all kinds of exercises, its not physical. But you become morally equipped. That's all within you. You'll be amazed that innocence cannot be described. It cannot be described. All right. Some clouds can cover it but it cannot be described. And so this innocence starts acting and you become an extremely moral person from every angle. Our society is finished. Why? Because our moral standards have gone down. Our value system has gone. Suddenly you become a shining personality. A beautiful person who is living with ideals which looks so distant and difficult. The one who is a realised soul – his attention is so powerful. Wherever he puts the attention, it works. Wherever he wants to bring forth change, it happens. I am happy to know that in this place you all believe in the change, change for the better. Transformation is the only way you can save this world. There's no other way out and for that the Sahaja Yoga is the only way we can do it. But that doesn't mean that you are not capable of getting it. Within a month you become your own master. You become your own master so become masters of kundalini and you can raise kundalini. I know there are people who have read a lot against kundalini saying that kundalini does this and all that. For the last 27 years I have been working on this kundalini, I have not seen anybody suffering. No violence, no problem, no [unclear ] , nothing happens amongst Sahaja Yogis. It is running in 65 nations. I must say Russia is much higher. Very surprising. Russian people are much ahead. I was amazed at how they were so sensitive to truth. Perhaps maybe the atrocities of communism, they developed their depth and they got to Sahaja Yoga. Once they get realisation Russians are great Sahaja Yogis. It is not easy to explain why but this is something good that when democracy came there only I could go otherwise I could not have gone. But the way I saw the way people there I was amazed that how could these people they are so sensitive. I Didn't advertise too much and I didn't have many people there, nothing of the kind, and there were 2,000 in the hall because they are supposed to take tickets for the hall and 2,000 outside, and they asked me, “Mother what about us?” I said, “All right I am coming back”. They were still there. I said, “All right can you [ slight break in video]. You won't believe, 2,000 from inside, 2,000 from outside and 2,000 were friends. And once they got realisation they settled down. They are not shifty by nature. They are not shifty people. If we are shifty we can never mature. Think of a tree which is shifted all the time. So we lack in maturity and understanding. We shouldn't shift. Like if you find water in a particular place, particular spot, you are digging a well then go ahead with it. Don't go on digging all over the place. I call it as guru shopping and this kind of a guru shopping has created lots of problems on your kundalini. They have not given you anything. Gurus after gurus have come. In the year 1971 I came to America and before coming I told in India in a very big gathering the names of all these horrible gurus who have come and who are going to destroy the seekers and these seekers are lost. So many are lost. So I have to make the humble request that you don't go on digging everywhere but respect yourself. Respect your self-realisation and grow into it. As a Mother what should I tell you? That I am with you all the time. I love you all. But you love yourself and don't make a bizarre life of yours. There's such a beautiful future lies ahead. And why should we not enjoy when people all over the world are enjoying. If this happens I know in this God blessed vishuddhi I have great hopes. I don't know. I just felt very great about Berkeley because the first Sahaja Yogi in America was from Berkeley. He was a student here and he was mad, real mad as a student and when he saw one Indian boy, very clever, asked him, “Who is your guru?” He said. “I have no guru” “No, no, no you must be having otherwise how can you have this temperament. Forgive me I am so disturbed. You are not at all disturbed. How are you so peaceful?” He said, “I don't know.” So he entered into his room at night, saw My photograph and said, “Who is this?” He said, “This is my Mother.” He said, “No. You tell me who.” So he told him that this is the lady who is – I don't know if you should call her Mother or anything, but She's the spiritual leader. She has given we self-realisation.” Next day he got a plane and I mean how frantic he was seeking, and he came to London. Then when he came to My house and he asked Me I am coming by train, how will I recognise you?” I said, “I will recognise you, don't worry, and I am the only Indian lady there. He came down all the way from the station to My house. He was walking for fifteen minutes. He was talking, talking, talking, talking, telling Me. Very intelligent man. Very intelligent, all kinds of books he had read. He had gone I tell you - become like a library confused. I said, “What's this going on?” I said, “Let him talk. Let him tell.” That all happened in Berkeley. And he came down there and he said, “Mother there are many like me. I said, “AH?.”That's the reason I wanted to come to Berkeley when he told Me, “There are many seekers in Berkeley and I always thought I should go back.” Then he wrote to some people here when he got his realisation. But people would not care. He said he used to have arguments , big meetings, seminars and here they are not bothered about what I am writing to them. He was so disappointed. Doesn't matter. But whatever it is now I leave it to you to understand that there's a very great thing awaiting for which you don't have to pay at all, but you have to give some time to your self-realisation. And that sometime is something that they will be having follow on or something. Please go to that follow on and learn it. You can master it. Not at all difficult to master. If Russians could do it why not you? Just think of it of how much you can help your countrymen and the whole world. Americans are known for going all over the world to help, but now we need a self-help. We have to help ourselves. Last of all there are many things which I could tell you what happens after kundalini awakening and when they used to write to me – this miracle, that miracle and all. So I asked for an Englishman and I said, “You better now write about them.” So he said within one month all of them have come up to my head like this. You better select Mother.” “ I said I have no time so leave it as it is.” So many things can happen to you which will be very beautiful and you will meet with such beautiful people and experience all that is there but above all what happens to you is that you jump in the ocean of joy. Joy is something cannot be expressed. It is to be felt. Happiness and unhappiness are two sides of a coin. But joy is singular and you enjoy everything. Everything you see you enjoy. Everything you hear you enjoy. Life becomes so enjoyable and you become such an enjoyable personality. We have had all kinds of people coming to Sahaja Yoga. All kinds and you'll be amazed how they are transformed and have become such beautiful people. All over the world. May God give you wisdom. You have intelligence and also you have lots of understanding but wisdom is something one should have. Without the wisdom you cannot achieve spiritual heights. You are a pure spirit but you have to ascend and dwell in that beautiful atmosphere of Divinity where the Divine helps you, fully protects you. Looks after you, guides you. So many things happen that you'll be amazed. Not by reading. By reading you are lost in the words as Adi Shankarachara said [Hindy] Means in the web of words we are lost. We have to go beyond it. These words can at the most give some joy to your mind but we have to really be there because you are real seekers and that's your right to have it. You have to get it. May God bless you all. It will hardly take ten minutes for you to get your realisation. Hardly ten minutes. Maybe even less. But first it used to take you will be surprised, half an hour My hands used to break raising their Kundalini. But now it seems the awareness is quite different. It works very fast. So I would request you to be comfortable. Just be comfortable and you can take out your shoes would be better idea because this Mother Earth you know, she helps us a lot. You have to put both the feet apart from each other. There are two conditions. Very simple, very simple. The first condition is that you don't have to feel guilty. That is you must forgive yourself. Whatever has happened, has happened, now finished. What's the use of carrying that guilt. And the guilt in modern times, I must tell you, it's so superficial. Whatever is finished, is finished. That is in the past. But if you feel guilty then this centre catches on the left hand side. This is a very important centre. And this centre for Americans especially who will know later on why. But this centre when it catches, what happens to you firstly that you get a disease called angina where the heart cannot pump straight blood for the brain. Then the second thing is that you might get spondylitis of a very serious kind. Thirdly you might get lethargic organs. So why carry this thing called guilt which has no meaning, to torture yourself, to trouble yourself. Those who do not torture, others take out on to themselves. The second condition is also simpler because this centre is like this. [Shri Mataji indicates the Agnya chakra area.]You see this how this cannot open. So to open this you have to forgive others. Many say it is difficult to forgive. Whether you forgive or don't forgive what do you do? You do nothing. But by not forgiving you torture yourself and the one who has given you the trouble is enjoying nicely and why you are torturing yourself? This centre is very important because I told you it's very constricted. So you have to just forgive. Forgive everyone. Just say in your heart I forgive everyone. You can call me Mother. You can I Mother I forgive everyone. And you'll feel much lighter. No use carrying the load of not forgiving. This is what is the second condition. I hope you don't mind if I say that, that you forgive yourself and forgive others. It will make you much lighter and this centre will open because the Kundalini has to move through these centres. So now you have to put both your hands towards Me like this. Towards Me. As I told you that you feel it on your fingertips. So what you feel is the cool breeze. Cool breeze of the Holy Ghost. Sometimes you feel hot. I'll tell you why but you will feel that and also you will feel the cool breeze coming out of your fontanelle bone area which is soft bone, matured soft bone in your childhood. So put both the hands towards Me like this. There, now please put the right hand towards Me close your eyes and take out your spectacles if you like and put the left hand on top of your fontanelle bone area, not touching the head but away from it. Now please put the right hand towards Me and feel if there is any cool or hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your head. Now please take your left hand towards Me like this. Place it like this towards Me and put your right hand on top of the fontanelle bone area above. Now some people get it far. Some people get it close. So just move your hand and see. If it is hot that means that you have not either forgiven yourself or forgiven others. So now you do it please forgive. Forgive yourself and forgive others. Please, please. This heat will go away. But if it is a hot coming also doesn't matter it will cool down after some time. Now again. Once again please put your right hand towards Me and left hand on top of the fontanelle bone. Please put down your head. Put down your head then you can see if works better. Don’t think. Don't think. Now please put both the hands towards Me like this and don't think. Watch Me. Don't think. It is not mesmerism because I have closed My eyes now right? Now please open your eyes and now if there's cool breeze coming from down below then lift it up and put it on top like that. Now again please put both your hands towards Me like this. Don't doubt it. Please don't doubt. Now raise both your hands towards the sky like this and push back your head. Here you have to ask one of the three questions three times. One of them only three times. You can call me Shri Mataji or you can call me Mother. In your heart please ask, Mother is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Push back your head. Another question is, Mother is this the all-pervading power of Divine Love? Ask genuinely with a genuine heart. Third question is Mother is this the paramachaitanya? Ask any one of these questions three times in your heart. Now please bring down your hands. Now put your both hands towards Me and don't think. All those who have felt cool breeze on the fingertips or hot breeze on the fingertips, or on the palm or out of the fontanelle bone area please raise both your hands. That's it. May God bless you. The whole of Berkeley. I am very thankful to you. I don't know what to say because you are really discerning people and that you have felt this all-pervading power. Now you have to just know how to use it. How to help others. How to help yourself. It's very simple and if you can attend our follow-on, follow up programs that they have, you will become master Sahaja Yogis. I know that. May God bless you. Tremendous experience.

Public Program, Berkeley (United States), June 18th, 1997 [The talk starts at 35:05]I bow to all the seekers of absolute truth. At the very outset, I have to say that truth is truth. This absolute truth cannot be changed because it is absolute. It cannot be transformed. It cannot be explained because it cannot be described. Truth has to be experienced. It’s an experience. In Sanskrit language, we have a word called Veda It comes from the word ‘vida’. ‘Vida’ means to know on your central nervous system. Like, I can feel this [armchair], In the same way, you must know the truth on your fingertips. ‘Bodh” also, from where the word Buddha has come, is that enlightenment; you have to feel it on your central nervous system. So, this absolute truth is what it was and is and will be. But I would request you not to believe Me because this blind faith has caused so much trouble to us. All the people are fighting all over the world with this blind faith. They believe in this and they believe in that, believe in that. This kind of faith is not going to help us. We have to feel it ourselves and experience it. Unless and until you experience, please don’t have faith in me or in Sahaja Yoga. Very important it is to understand that this absolute truth is beyond your mind. We think no end of our mind, and all those who came from my country as well as from your own country, to deceive you and make money out of you, have used their mind very well. And your mind could not detect it. Even today, they are there. So, for you to see what is the truth, you must know that you cannot purchase it with money. This is very difficult to digest it. Many people told me in America, “Mother you can never be successful you cannot get people because they just believe that the person who doesn’t take money has no validity.” My experience was so horrible! In Boston, they asked me, in the television, “How many Roll Royce’s you have?” [Laughter] “I have none”. I said, “My husband has only one car”. “So, you are not in the business?” “No”. Then they said, “We cannot, we are sorry, you have to be in the business”. So, all these mental acrobats that have been going on in this country. I’ve been hoping to come to Berkeley that everybody told me that Berkeley is a place where there are people who are truly seeking the truth and they are revolutionary. They do not accept anything that is just established. Imagine after so many years, 27 years, I am coming to Berkeley, where I was really very anxious to come. So, now the time has come that we have to know the truth. We have to know the absolute truth. I call it as a blossom time, because I find there are so many seekers of truth all over the world. And this time has come for these flowers to become the fruit. Very simple thing to understand that this is done by a Power within you as explained to you. Whether you believe it or not, it is there. This power has to be awakened, that’s all. A very simple thing, a journey of three to four feet that’s all. But such a simple thing, people don’t want to accept. If you say, “Eat this way”, they’ll say, “No, why not this and this way?” Because of this mind! This mind is the one which has created real problems for us. I am told some gentleman is making big money by telling that how to project this mind here, and project mind there. It’s like a cocoon. In a cocoon, you dash here and dash there. [You have to get out of it]. When they said, “You are to be born again”. Clearly, that doesn’t mean that you put a sign board here: ‘born again’. No. Born again means something has to happen to your consciousness, to your awareness. You have to be truthful about it. How can you be satisfied with something which is not the truth? So, what is the truth? Truth, if you understand, is not this body, this mind, these emotions, these thoughts, and this ego. But it is that you are the pure Spirit. You are the pure Spirit. You have to become the pure Spirit, that’s all. This is what is the second birth. In the Bible, Christ has said, “You are to be born again”. In every religion, it is said that you have to be born again. In Sanskrit language, to a realized soul they call it a ‘dvijaha’. Means to be born twice and they call a bird also a Vijaha because it is in an egg state and then it becomes a bird. There has to be a complete transformation. If you see the problems of our age, there are many, but the main is this that human beings are to be transformed. They have to be transformed beyond this mind. This mind is created by us through our conditionings and our ego just just like you create computer and then you become slave of that computer. In the same way this mind is also working so it is said that you have to go beyond this mind. When you go into the realm of divinity then you can watch your mind very clearly - how it works, what it does, where does it take you? This power of kundalini really passes through six centres. The seventh centre it does not pass. Six centres it passes into. It pierces through the fontanelle bone area and gets you connected to all pervading power of divine love. We have never felt it before. We have never felt it. Christ's disciples have said that the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost. In the Quran is called as rue. In other Indian scriptures it is called as paramachaitanya, bramachaitanya. Everywhere it is described this subtle power which we do not feel normally but which exists, which looks after us. Which nourishes us. Which thinks. Which protects. Above all it loves you. It's such a beautiful experience it is to be one with that Divine Power which is created for us there. And please remember that God Almighty who has created us will not allow us to be destroyed. We may try our level best to destroy ourselves but He will not and nobody should be under the fear that this world is coming to an end. There are many organisations which are preaching this world is coming to an end and for that we should give all our money to this organisation which will not come to an end perhaps. All these ideas when they propound and all these ideas they talk about – there's no proof of it. There's no sense in it. Like the other day one family came to Me and said one gentleman was moving a pendulum, something sort of like that and we followed him. We sold our house. We took out our children from the school. I said, “What's gone wrong with America?” We have no brains to understand. How can we accept such a nonsense as that? But they did and now they are in trouble. So many people have looted you because you don't know what to expect of a person who is spiritual. How can you purchase your guru. He's not your servant. If you understand this point I tell you half of them will run away and so many will just close their doors. So I must tell you in Sahaja Yoga you don't have to pay and if you think that you have to pay then I must say that it's not going to work out. Money is created by human beings not by the Divine. So when this kundalini rises, passes through six centres, these six centres are responsible for our physical, mental and emotional being and also the spiritual being. When they are going to [unclear] then this kundalini when She arises, she integrates them. She nourishes them and connects them to that Power which is all the time flowing within us. One may say, “How are we to believe that there is this power”? Now look at these flowers. Look at these flowers. Have you ever thought what a miracle it is. These flowers of different colours, of different nature, of different fragrance are brought in by whom. You ask the doctor, “Who runs your heart”? They say it is autonomous nervous system. So you ask them, “Who is this auto”? Who is this auto which is running my heart? Who is [ unclear] my heart?” He cannot answer because he has no answer. But you can find the answer. You can find the answer to your question. It's not going to be difficult at all this, one should understand. This is Sahaja. Saha means with and Ja means born with you. You have the right. You have a birthright to have your self-realisation, your enlightenment because you are born in this Kali Juga. In these modern times it's already predicted that at this time only people who are seeking God or seeking the truth will one day find it during this special time. That's why they call it an Aquarius age. But coming to the point what happens to you, what should happen to you? First and foremost thing happens to you is that if you have any physical ailment you get cured. You do get cured. We have a hospital in India where they recorded many patients have been cured of very difficult and incurable diseases. Because you go to the basis. Supposing you want to treat a tree and start treating the leaves. It won't work out you have to go to the roots. So what I am talking to you about the roots on which our life depends. This is the first thing that happens that your physical being is cured. And the second thing is you become a very peaceful person. The modern problem of stress and strain is understood because as you see there, that there are two channels which one brings the ego and another brings the super-ego. From both the sides they cover your head and all your worries, all your problems get stuck up there. They don't know how to get out of it. But once the kundalini opens you, stress and strain is all finished. I'll explain the other way. If you are thinking the waves of thought rise and fall, rise and fall and we are jumping on the cusp of these thoughts. Actually we think of the past or the future. We cannot think of present, this moment. We cannot make our attention stand at the present. So we are not with the reality because reality is in the present. But once these thoughts are elongated by the kundalini a space is created. In Sanskrit they call it vilamba. It means a pause and in that state you become – again I say, you become. It's no lecture, nothing, it's just happening that you become absolutely silent within; thoughtlessly aware, which Jung has also described. You just become thoughtlessly aware. When you are thoughtlessly aware – absolutely peaceful within yourself. Absolutely. People are winning awards for peace and this and that, for peace and organisations for peace but themselves are not peaceful. They have no peace within themselves. How can they emit peace? Such a person who has become peaceful within emits peace, creates peace and lives a life of comfortably peace and non-violence. This peace is so powerful, so powerful that it protects you. It protects you. As soon as you see a crisis you become silent and then the nourishment comes from this peace that you are. And you are amazed how problems get solved because this peace is blessed by this all-pervading Divine Power. So the first thing that happens to your awareness is that you become a peaceful personality. In that state all these ideas of race and nations and religion and all that will just vanish. You really become a religious person, really in the sense you don't do anything wrong, don't harm anybody. I don't have to tell you, don't, don't, don't. It just happens. At that stage people just drop all their bad habits. I don't want to name them because you may not like. But just happens to you that you become so peaceful, so satisfied, that you don't want to take to anything. Just it happens automatically because you become peaceful and that you are now enlightened. But when the kundalini passes through your fontanelle bone then a new awareness comes into you, which is the collective consciousness. Collective consciousness is you can feel the other on your fingertips. You can feel the chakras of others on your fingertips, whether that person is dead, living or maybe away from you. You can feel it. Very nicely you can understand what's wrong with that person. Now anybody who comes from jail from India and wear their, what you call, saffron clothes – immediately everybody will go at his feet. They don't know – they don't know how to find if this man is a thief or a crook, no way. But as soon as you are a realised soul you can feel it on your fingertips. You might get little burning. You might get little tingling, and immediately if you de-code it, what is in Sahaja Yoga you'll be amazed how you will find out what sort of a person that is. Also you can feel your own chakras, your own centres. Some of them are in jeopardy so the kundalini comes back again and again and tries to cure it. And when it cures then you become so sensitive. Really sensitive. You can feel what's wrong with yourself and with others. And you know how to cure yourself. You can cure yourself. Nobody has to tell you how to cure. Without spending a single pie you can do it. But despite that people are thinking that – no, no, no, no. Let us see something else might be there. You go to somebody like that immediately you can feel that this man is a crook. He doesn't have the truth with him. But you have to establish yourself. It hardly takes about a month or so to absolutely become established Sahaja Yogis. Now you have powers to raise the kundalini of others. To cure others because this power of love which is above everything else always makes you a very generous personality. You want to help others and you find solutions how to help others. You just do not accept anything because you know what is right and what is wrong, what is absolute. On your fingertips you can feel the absolute truth. You take ten small children and you tie up their eyes if they are realised souls, they will always say the same thing. Supposing they say that this finger is catching. That means that this fellow has got a heart trouble. If you ask him, “Have you got a heart trouble?”. “Yes, but how do you know?” And everybody will feel the same. Everybody will know the same thing. There's no question of quarrelling, fighting, or discussing or arguments. Everyone feels the same way. Everyone knows the same way and why should they then quarrel or fight? They leave alone the war. When nobody is the other. When you are part and parcel of the whole, the macrocosm becomes the microcosm. When you become part and parcel of the whole why would you – why would you try – why would you try to hurt another who is the other? Does one finger hurt another finger? The problem of war can be solved without any trouble if we have Sahaja Yogis in that area where there is a possibility of creating a war or creating a problem. The another problem is of a moral I think, degradation that we have. This moral degradation is not possible through any kind of discipline. You don't have to go to Himalayas, stand on your head and stand on one leg or do all kinds of exercises, its not physical. But you become morally equipped. That's all within you. You'll be amazed that innocence cannot be described. It cannot be described. All right. Some clouds can cover it but it cannot be described. And so this innocence starts acting and you become an extremely moral person from every angle. Our society is finished. Why? Because our moral standards have gone down. Our value system has gone. Suddenly you become a shining personality. A beautiful person who is living with ideals which looks so distant and difficult. The one who is a realised soul – his attention is so powerful. Wherever he puts the attention, it works. Wherever he wants to bring forth change, it happens. I am happy to know that in this place you all believe in the change, change for the better. Transformation is the only way you can save this world. There's no other way out and for that the Sahaja Yoga is the only way we can do it. But that doesn't mean that you are not capable of getting it. Within a month you become your own master. You become your own master so become masters of kundalini and you can raise kundalini. I know there are people who have read a lot against kundalini saying that kundalini does this and all that. For the last 27 years I have been working on this kundalini, I have not seen anybody suffering. No violence, no problem, no [unclear ] , nothing happens amongst Sahaja Yogis. It is running in 65 nations. I must say Russia is much higher. Very surprising. Russian people are much ahead. I was amazed at how they were so sensitive to truth. Perhaps maybe the atrocities of communism, they developed their depth and they got to Sahaja Yoga. Once they get realisation Russians are great Sahaja Yogis. It is not easy to explain why but this is something good that when democracy came there only I could go otherwise I could not have gone. But the way I saw the way people there I was amazed that how could these people they are so sensitive. I Didn't advertise too much and I didn't have many people there, nothing of the kind, and there were 2,000 in the hall because they are supposed to take tickets for the hall and 2,000 outside, and they asked me, “Mother what about us?” I said, “All right I am coming back”. They were still there. I said, “All right can you [ slight break in video]. You won't believe, 2,000 from inside, 2,000 from outside and 2,000 were friends. And once they got realisation they settled down. They are not shifty by nature. They are not shifty people. If we are shifty we can never mature. Think of a tree which is shifted all the time. So we lack in maturity and understanding. We shouldn't shift. Like if you find water in a particular place, particular spot, you are digging a well then go ahead with it. Don't go on digging all over the place. I call it as guru shopping and this kind of a guru shopping has created lots of problems on your kundalini. They have not given you anything. Gurus after gurus have come. In the year 1971 I came to America and before coming I told in India in a very big gathering the names of all these horrible gurus who have come and who are going to destroy the seekers and these seekers are lost. So many are lost. So I have to make the humble request that you don't go on digging everywhere but respect yourself. Respect your self-realisation and grow into it. As a Mother what should I tell you? That I am with you all the time. I love you all. But you love yourself and don't make a bizarre life of yours. There's such a beautiful future lies ahead. And why should we not enjoy when people all over the world are enjoying. If this happens I know in this God blessed vishuddhi I have great hopes. I don't know. I just felt very great about Berkeley because the first Sahaja Yogi in America was from Berkeley. He was a student here and he was mad, real mad as a student and when he saw one Indian boy, very clever, asked him, “Who is your guru?” He said. “I have no guru” “No, no, no you must be having otherwise how can you have this temperament. Forgive me I am so disturbed. You are not at all disturbed. How are you so peaceful?” He said, “I don't know.” So he entered into his room at night, saw My photograph and said, “Who is this?” He said, “This is my Mother.” He said, “No. You tell me who.” So he told him that this is the lady who is – I don't know if you should call her Mother or anything, but She's the spiritual leader. She has given we self-realisation.” Next day he got a plane and I mean how frantic he was seeking, and he came to London. Then when he came to My house and he asked Me I am coming by train, how will I recognise you?” I said, “I will recognise you, don't worry, and I am the only Indian lady there. He came down all the way from the station to My house. He was walking for fifteen minutes. He was talking, talking, talking, talking, telling Me. Very intelligent man. Very intelligent, all kinds of books he had read. He had gone I tell you - become like a library confused. I said, “What's this going on?” I said, “Let him talk. Let him tell.” That all happened in Berkeley. And he came down there and he said, “Mother there are many like me. I said, “AH?.”That's the reason I wanted to come to Berkeley when he told Me, “There are many seekers in Berkeley and I always thought I should go back.” Then he wrote to some people here when he got his realisation. But people would not care. He said he used to have arguments , big meetings, seminars and here they are not bothered about what I am writing to them. He was so disappointed. Doesn't matter. But whatever it is now I leave it to you to understand that there's a very great thing awaiting for which you don't have to pay at all, but you have to give some time to your self-realisation. And that sometime is something that they will be having follow on or something. Please go to that follow on and learn it. You can master it. Not at all difficult to master. If Russians could do it why not you? Just think of it of how much you can help your countrymen and the whole world. Americans are known for going all over the world to help, but now we need a self-help. We have to help ourselves. Last of all there are many things which I could tell you what happens after kundalini awakening and when they used to write to me – this miracle, that miracle and all. So I asked for an Englishman and I said, “You better now write about them.” So he said within one month all of them have come up to my head like this. You better select Mother.” “ I said I have no time so leave it as it is.” So many things can happen to you which will be very beautiful and you will meet with such beautiful people and experience all that is there but above all what happens to you is that you jump in the ocean of joy. Joy is something cannot be expressed. It is to be felt. Happiness and unhappiness are two sides of a coin. But joy is singular and you enjoy everything. Everything you see you enjoy. Everything you hear you enjoy. Life becomes so enjoyable and you become such an enjoyable personality. We have had all kinds of people coming to Sahaja Yoga. All kinds and you'll be amazed how they are transformed and have become such beautiful people. All over the world. May God give you wisdom. You have intelligence and also you have lots of understanding but wisdom is something one should have. Without the wisdom you cannot achieve spiritual heights. You are a pure spirit but you have to ascend and dwell in that beautiful atmosphere of Divinity where the Divine helps you, fully protects you. Looks after you, guides you. So many things happen that you'll be amazed. Not by reading. By reading you are lost in the words as Adi Shankarachara said [Hindy] Means in the web of words we are lost. We have to go beyond it. These words can at the most give some joy to your mind but we have to really be there because you are real seekers and that's your right to have it. You have to get it. May God bless you all. It will hardly take ten minutes for you to get your realisation. Hardly ten minutes. Maybe even less. But first it used to take you will be surprised, half an hour My hands used to break raising their Kundalini. But now it seems the awareness is quite different. It works very fast. So I would request you to be comfortable. Just be comfortable and you can take out your shoes would be better idea because this Mother Earth you know, she helps us a lot. You have to put both the feet apart from each other. There are two conditions. Very simple, very simple. The first condition is that you don't have to feel guilty. That is you must forgive yourself. Whatever has happened, has happened, now finished. What's the use of carrying that guilt. And the guilt in modern times, I must tell you, it's so superficial. Whatever is finished, is finished. That is in the past. But if you feel guilty then this centre catches on the left hand side. This is a very important centre. And this centre for Americans especially who will know later on why. But this centre when it catches, what happens to you firstly that you get a disease called angina where the heart cannot pump straight blood for the brain. Then the second thing is that you might get spondylitis of a very serious kind. Thirdly you might get lethargic organs. So why carry this thing called guilt which has no meaning, to torture yourself, to trouble yourself. Those who do not torture, others take out on to themselves. The second condition is also simpler because this centre is like this. [Shri Mataji indicates the Agnya chakra area.]You see this how this cannot open. So to open this you have to forgive others. Many say it is difficult to forgive. Whether you forgive or don't forgive what do you do? You do nothing. But by not forgiving you torture yourself and the one who has given you the trouble is enjoying nicely and why you are torturing yourself? This centre is very important because I told you it's very constricted. So you have to just forgive. Forgive everyone. Just say in your heart I forgive everyone. You can call me Mother. You can I Mother I forgive everyone. And you'll feel much lighter. No use carrying the load of not forgiving. This is what is the second condition. I hope you don't mind if I say that, that you forgive yourself and forgive others. It will make you much lighter and this centre will open because the Kundalini has to move through these centres. So now you have to put both your hands towards Me like this. Towards Me. As I told you that you feel it on your fingertips. So what you feel is the cool breeze. Cool breeze of the Holy Ghost. Sometimes you feel hot. I'll tell you why but you will feel that and also you will feel the cool breeze coming out of your fontanelle bone area which is soft bone, matured soft bone in your childhood. So put both the hands towards Me like this. There, now please put the right hand towards Me close your eyes and take out your spectacles if you like and put the left hand on top of your fontanelle bone area, not touching the head but away from it. Now please put the right hand towards Me and feel if there is any cool or hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your head. Now please take your left hand towards Me like this. Place it like this towards Me and put your right hand on top of the fontanelle bone area above. Now some people get it far. Some people get it close. So just move your hand and see. If it is hot that means that you have not either forgiven yourself or forgiven others. So now you do it please forgive. Forgive yourself and forgive others. Please, please. This heat will go away. But if it is a hot coming also doesn't matter it will cool down after some time. Now again. Once again please put your right hand towards Me and left hand on top of the fontanelle bone. Please put down your head. Put down your head then you can see if works better. Don’t think. Don't think. Now please put both the hands towards Me like this and don't think. Watch Me. Don't think. It is not mesmerism because I have closed My eyes now right? Now please open your eyes and now if there's cool breeze coming from down below then lift it up and put it on top like that. Now again please put both your hands towards Me like this. Don't doubt it. Please don't doubt. Now raise both your hands towards the sky like this and push back your head. Here you have to ask one of the three questions three times. One of them only three times. You can call me Shri Mataji or you can call me Mother. In your heart please ask, Mother is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Push back your head. Another question is, Mother is this the all-pervading power of Divine Love? Ask genuinely with a genuine heart. Third question is Mother is this the paramachaitanya? Ask any one of these questions three times in your heart. Now please bring down your hands. Now put your both hands towards Me and don't think. All those who have felt cool breeze on the fingertips or hot breeze on the fingertips, or on the palm or out of the fontanelle bone area please raise both your hands. That's it. May God bless you. The whole of Berkeley. I am very thankful to you. I don't know what to say because you are really discerning people and that you have felt this all-pervading power. Now you have to just know how to use it. How to help others. How to help yourself. It's very simple and if you can attend our follow-on, follow up programs that they have, you will become master Sahaja Yogis. I know that. May God bless you. Tremendous experience.

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1997-06-20 Public Program, Vancouver, Canada I bow to all the seekers of Absolute truth. At the very outset, you have to know that truth is truth. You cannot change it. You cannot transfer it and you cannot describe it. Truth is to be experienced as told by all the saints, all the incarnations. You can not purchase it. You can not pay for it. It's a funny psychology when people say that we can't believe you because you don't take money. Still, I have not been able to understand why such an absurd idea prevails. Now whatever I am going to tell you today, please don't believe me blindfolded. We have had enough of trouble from blind faith, and this blind faith has led to all kinds of problems, false, cruelties, there is no end to it. So what one has to know that unless until you experience it you are not going to believe it and I tell you because you are seekers. You are true seekers, an ardent seeker. Special people. You will go on seeking till you find the absolute. So it is important that we must now bring a full stop to our seeking and get what we have been seeking and enjoy it. You have already been told about the subtle system that exists within us. Believe me, it is there and it works wonders. It is being kept there for your evolution. This is the last breakthrough of your evolution which you have to achieve that when this power rises she pierces through your Fontellene bone area and connects you to this all-pervading power of divine love. In different scriptures, it is discribed as with different words. For example, in the Bible, it is called as the 'cool breeze of the Holy Ghost', also 'all-pervading power of divine love'.But in the Quran, it is called 'Ruhu'. In other scriptures it is called as 'Brahma Chaitanya' and some have called it as 'Alakh Niranjan'.All this is the same name for one thing that is the, 'subtle energy of divine love around us'. So far we have not felt it as human beings. But with the ascent, we are going to feel it. For the first time, you are going to feel this great energy that looks after us which gives us complete protection, complete guidance as if it takes over all our problems and responsibilities. This is not just to be believed, again and again, I say, but to be experienced, how it protects, how it looks after you, how it nourishes you. Imagine in this one experience you get everything. And how much will you pay for it? It is so invaluable. How much did we pay to Shri Krishna or to Rama or to Jesus Christ? No saint has ever been sold like this. So this funny ideology that you must pay for everything doesn't apply here. If you decide not to pay to any guru of India or England or America, all of them will drop out. Because this is a business. It is a business for them and there is no business in Sahaja yoga. It's a natural phenomenon of your growth or your evolution as the last breakthrough. This has to be understood very clearly. If you understand that0, then I can explain to you what all things can happen to you once you get your Self Realisation'. Apart from describing about this all-pervading power, I would like to tell you, what happens to you once you become 'one with this divine power'.Just like this instrument, if it is not connected to the mains then it has no identity, it has no meaning.In the same way unless and until we are connected with the main switch the power that has created us we have no meaning and we have no identity.We may think of many things that we are this we are that, all these things are temporary you know very well, and they will drop off any time, but something that is eternal, that is the 'absolute truth' which you know through your spirit.So what is the 'absolute truth' is that you are not this body, you are not this mind.You are not this aspirations, conditionings and this ego, but you are the 'Pure Spirit'.You are the Pure Spirit which you have to become.Unless and until you become that you will be restless.You will be struggling.You will be seeking.You will not be satisfied with whatever you are doing.So to be the Spirit' what have you do is the ascent.Accent how do you achieve is through this Kundalini awakening which is the subtle energy in the triangular bone.Can you imagine, Greeks called it as Sacrum? Sacrum means secret.So they knew that it is a sacred bone and this is to be worshipped.It Is remarkable how in many countries the knowledge of Kundalini was known and it was known in Ukraine, you will be amazed.In Russia, known in Columbia and Bolivia and also in Greece.I mean so many countries I have visited I feel it was known among the aboriginal also that there is some sort of a power within us which will connect us to the divine.But later on, I don't know because of blind faith or maybe because of no subtle ideas people just forgot about it and that's how so many problems were created.So, first of all, we have to understand that we exist in the future or in the past.We have nowadays the problem of stress.Very common because we live in the past and the future which does not exist.In our brain from both the sides, it is like a balloon is two institutions as you have seen, get filled up with our conditioning and with our ego.These two balloons when they are completely full we get the feeling of what you call stress because there is no outlet to it and that's how you develop those problems which are very modern today.Now, this ego and conditionings make our mind.We have made this mind.We have conditioned it. Supposing I am born in India then I am an Indian and then I am conditioned by all Indian things.Supposing I am born in Canada, then I am a Canadian, if I born in a Christian family then I am a Christian, I am born in Hindu, then I am a Hindu, or born in a Muslim then I am a Muslim.So this conditioning goes into us without even thinking about it, without even understanding it. Even we get lost into the web of words which Sankhara Chariya has called as 'Subd Jalam' meaning the words.You go on reading, reading, reading, reaching nowhere.This web of words keeps us away from reality.This mind I always say is a myth because it is created by us.As we have created a computer we have created this mind.One day may come when we will become slaves of this computer.In the same way, we are the slave of this mind and just want to bother about this mind only, what it says what it guides.There is someone I was told in America who has come to say that I can tell you how to control the minds of others.And he says I can control the mind by showing a pendulum movement.Now just imagine people have sold their houses.They have taken out their children from the school with such a man who talks bombastically about these things, that you can project your mind here, you can project your mind there.What has this mind created?If you see today's films, today's creations, I can say, the modern culture, where the mind has gone?How far it has reached?What has it achieved?If you see the achievement of this human mind you might be quite amused.Except for very few things this mind has created more destruction, more destructive power and more hatred.If we have to listen to this mind, I don't know how this world is going to exist, because all the time there is competition, all the times there are conferences about how to destroy each other.This mind of ours has to be transcended.You have to go beyond this mind so when the thoughts are there about the future and the past, we are jumping on the cusp of the thoughts, but we are not in the present.If I say you be in the present then you can not.The present is the reality., not in the past or in the future but in the present and we can't be in the present because we cannot transcend this mind of ours.For that, the Kundalini does the job.She pierces through this mind, through a very constricted Agnya Chakra and comes out of Fontellene bone area.As a result, you become 'absolutely thoughtlessly aware', about which thank God, Yung has talked.Yung has said that "you have to first become thoughtlessly aware."You are fully aware but you are 'thoughtless.' This is very well described in our Patanjali and all these Shastras that he has very clearly said that once you become thoughtlessly aware, you have crossed your mind. At that point what happens to our awareness. What happens to us that we become absolutely peaceful. The so-called stress and strain all disappear. We become absolutely peaceful. Very much satisfied and we become like a 'witness'. We see the whole world, the working of the world as a witness. It is said in the Bible also that, 'you have to be the witness'.Said also that, 'you have to be born again'.That means people put a blackboard here saying I am born again. What does that mean? You just put some sort of a sign or signal here saying that I am born again. You are not born again. That is deceiving yourself. If you are born again then you have 'powers'. Like a bird is called as Dwijaha, in Sanskrit language and also a realized Soul is also called Dwijaha, that means 'born twice'.Dwihija I think. The one who is born twice like a bird he is an egg then he becomes a bird.In the same way, a human being is a human being then he becomes a bird, complete free.Freedom.Complete freedom he has.Freedom from all kinds of bad habits.All kinds of bondages.All kinds of wrong thoughts.All kinds of hatred and all other enemies of human beings.He becomes completely free and then he spreads his wings in the same way as a bird does.So this is what has to happen.That is what one has to get to is to get rid of these shackles which have put down our personality.Have created all the problems for us and for others.Now as there are some Shiks I must say, something it is said in their own Via Guru Nanak himself has said that (in Hindi translated) Why do go to jungles to find Him, HE is within you, you know yourself, and the self-knowledge is the only way you can realise.Every one of them have said so.Also, there is Kabira, he said, how am I to explain,(in Hindi) how can I make people understand because the whole world is blind.You see all the saints in India or all over have said, the same thing that you have to transcend.Transcend this mind and go beyond it into this new state of 'thoughtless awareness'.Then you become absolutely a gentle, beautiful loving personality.Your temper falls down.Your all anger falls, all kinds of ideas that hover in your mind all the time, all types of ideas stop.If you want to think you can think but if you don't want, you don't have to think.Then the whole picture now I see this beautiful church, the way the beautiful glasswork and all that work is so very beautiful but when I see this in thoughtless awareness, what happens that I don't think how much it must have cost, it might break or it should be insured, something, I don't think like that.What I feel is the joy, the artist who has done it.The joy of the artist who has put inside this beautiful stain work of Jesus.I feel the joy of that artist flowing in me and just cooling me down.You do not get ideas about how much I should pay, whether it is a carpet, now there is a carpet, how to put it sort of for insurance,and all these problems that face us, all this disappears.All that you see is the joy and get all the joy pouring into you and making your life so joyful and happy.This is the first state where you arrive which I call 'thoughtless awareness', which has all these qualities that manifest in your personality.But beyond that when you see that this Kundalini passes through your physical strata that is the part of the Chakras, you get better.Your health gets better.We have seen people cured of Cancer.Cured of all kinds of horrible diseases.Not only that.We have also seen people being mentally perfected, those who were mentally upset, depressed.Even lunatics have been cured with this happening.This is your own power.Nobody is obliged to anything.It is your own power.Own power, this is your own Mother which gives you your second birth.She has been waiting for this day, for this time, because you are so much, so much worthy of it.Because you are seekers, this is your birthright to have this realization. To have this self-knowledge. Because on your fingertips you know about your own centres.This is your self-knowledge.You know where are you, what is wrong with you because these centres are for your physical, mental, emotional and spiritual being.You can detect where are you catching, on what finger you are catching and thus it is all decoded and you can find it out.It is a very simple art which can work very well.Once you start understanding you are amazed at yourself how it is known to you at your fingertips.Everybody feels the same way because this is 'Absolute knowledge'.So there is nothing other knowledge.If the child says this finger is catching then everybody will say this finger is catching.That means something is very very wrong with the throat or maybe you are having some sort of a cancer of the throat.Depends on the intensity of this catching sometimes, you feel like burning, sometimes you feel it's very cool down, depending on what is the decoding of this.That is how you can cure yourself and also you can cure others.So this another awareness comes into you is of 'collective consciousness.'Collective Consciousness', that is who is the other.You can feel everyone on your fingertips.You know about everyone on your fingertips, whether he is dead or alive, whether he is near you or away, you just have to take the name and you can feel it.Now there are many people from India also from I don't know from everywhere, they come in the name of God.I mean I don't know how to describe, they are missing some people showing a hundred dollar note that if you send this to God, God will give you everything.Such a stupid thing also people, I don't know how people listen to such stupid things.Now you can make it out on your fingertips if this man is a truthful fellow or he is not.If he is trying to cheat you if he is trying to make a fool out of you.Only on your fingertips, you will know everything.It is not difficult at all even for children.Even the children can say what is wrong with another person is as far as the centres are concerned.Then these centres are decoded so you know what is wrong with this centre, this centre, for example one fellow came and asked me why they were asking me about my father. Everybody came and asked me about my father.Why? I said maybe this finger was catching.Now when he got Realisation' he felt the heat on this finger and it was verified.So all that we are saying is that it can be verified, is to be little bit have a little bit to learn with little patience, how to verify, what is the decoding at the most one month.In one month you can be masters.You all can be masters, you can correct others, you can give them Realisation'.Now, this is the power you get when you are twice-born.I said you must have powers.So the power you get is that you can raise the Kundalini of others.You can give them Realisation', and you can cure them. You can correct them, and also your whole being becomes nothing but a peaceful being because you are beyond your mind.People talk of peace.They give awards of peace, I have seen and met many people who have got these awards.They are horribly hot-tempered, horribly right-sided, aggressive people.But they get peace award from I don't know which angle they are given peace.Perhaps most of them have been instigating or have been starting some sort of trouble in any country and they have got the peace award.Peace has to be within us. Through only our transformation we can get peace.If we do not get our transformation, we cannot get peace within.We cannot.Our attention itself is so disturbed all the time, our attention itself has no peace but once you get this status of peace within you, you emit, your attention emits peace, it gives peace, because who is the other, whom are you going to fight.One finger of my hand does not fight with another finger.In the same way, we are part and parcel of the whole, like a microcosm becoming a macrocosm, we talk about it but you become.Again I say like in Sahajayogi you become. It is not just talking.It is not just giving a sermon.It is not just telling a story, it is what happens to you, that your whole personality changes.It gets completely transformed tonight you will get it.In one evening you can get it.Now the question is how to grow.Then we have here some very, very, good Sahajayogies, they are very humble, nice people.They will not touch your ego but might suck in your egos and you will find yourself extremely congenial, extremely beautiful and there is a big race of such people existing today.William Blake said there will be born people or the seekers he said, 'people of God', and they will know God, and they will become peaceful.He has said it very very clearly and that is what is happening today, and is going to work out. I call it the 'blossom time' and this blossom time is really, so many seekers are there and who are receiving their Realisation'.It is a fact.I am not telling you anything to gain anything.But this Canada I have visited many a times and I was surprised. In Canada, people are not that sensitive.Very surprising that people in Russia are extremely sensitive.Extremely sensitive.Once I went to the first time I went to Leningrad and there were hardly 2000 people inside the hall because the hall was for 2000 people but outside were 2000 sitting.They said Maa, what about us?I said alright let me finish with these people and then I will come out.When I came out they were still sitting there.My God, what to do?So I said "alright."I said, "can you come tomorrow, we will sit outside here on the grounds and we will have it".And so they came.But not only they.They came and those who inside came and 2000 more people came and since that day they are Sahajayogies.Since that day.I did not have to say now do this no, no, they just jumped into it.I must say this communism is not a very good thing, but the torture of the communism has made these people so deep, so sensitive, so introspective.They have been introspective that I know because I have been going to Russia before also with my husband.I always feel they are very introspective people but they were so deep I never knew.Now today there is a joke that one Sahajayogi from America went there and the Sahajayogi from one place Thalaiyatti asked him, how many Sahajayogies are there, it is a long time back. He said, we are 56000. He said my God you are 56000 we are only 21000 in Thalaiyatti. So you can imagine it is like fire it has spread. Of course in India I am not surprised, but for us the system traditionally we know what is our future. We know what we have to achieve. Traditionally we know, I mean, there are politicians and there are other things but the majority of the people in India know that we have to have our Self-realization, otherwise everything is useless. And so it is not so difficult. But in a place like Rumania, Russia, it has spread like fire. But not in the Western countries so much. Of course, it is, Italy is alright, I can say also Austria, Germany, but the transformation that has taken place in people is remarkable. First time when I went to Russia to Moscow 25 German Sahajayogies came. I asked him," how are you here?" "Mother is not our responsibility.? Our forefathers killed all these Russians so we think it is our responsibility that we should come." Now, this all I was so touched by the whole thing that look at these Germans, they are feeling so much for these Russians and then I was told that they have now gone to Israel.I said, "why to Israel?" Mother, how many Jews the Germans have killed. Is consciousness.They went to Israel, they spend their own money, they stayed there, they got some Israeli as Sahaja yogi. But then I was amazed that in Egypt, these Israeli came. I said, "how are you here?" They said, 'Mother we must make friends with these Muslims. Isn't it necessary that now we should be friends?"So they are all friends of pure relationship. There is nothing like somebody's husband running away with somebody wife and all that nonsense. All other pornography and all nonsense that you have here.Nothing of the kind. They are completely transformed and changed.Absolutely changed people. But one thing about them is that they are not so money-oriented. This money-oriented is going to lead us to a very great disaster you will see, very soon. You will be breaking our families, breaking our children, I don't know what is going to happen, because money can never give you pleasure. It can never give you joy. But I don't say that you don't have to earn money but then you feel satisfied and you do not become a greedy person destroying yourself. All this is possible if you become 'complete'.Unless and until you have the completeness, that fulfilment of your being is not there and then you start doing all kinds of things which has no meaning, which has no legal permission, neither it is good for you nor it is for your society and if you watch you will be amazed to see, how many are getting destroyed. In America they say that 65 per cent will become schizophrenic. It is beyond me to understand why should they? They have such nice medical science everything but schizophrenia is very common. Why? Because there is no balance. Only through this, the balance is established. You become one with yourself and you enjoy yourself in such a manner that you enjoy everyone. All these stupid ideas of enjoyment where you just waste your energy and create problems for each that doesn't exist. You get into such a beautiful mood, you enjoy everything then all this race and creed and religion and all these divide things which have separated us from one another just disappear into thin air, and you will be amazed how you achieve a state which is so beautiful and so peaceful. There is so much to be talked about and to be told about this, but I would say that I hope you will attend our follow up meetings where you don't have to pay any money again and if you are insisting on paying then you pay yourself but please attend this follow-ups. Before that, I have to give your Realisation', for which I hope you are ready. Those who want to have their Realisation' can only be in the hall. Those who do not want should go away because we cannot force it. I cannot force it. It can not be forced. It is so 'spontaneous'. It is a living process of your evolution which works 'spontaneously'. If you want it will work out if you don't want it it will not. So please I would request all of you to be here, if possible be humble, and not to be critical, don't doubt yourself, and it will work out. I am sure it will work out. It won't take much time it will just take short time for you. Hardly about 10 minutes. Something I have to suggest is that we have to take out our shoes. I hope you don't mind. (Some more people can come.No harm. If some people want to sit. Some more people can sit but doesn't matter you are far or near. Makes no difference at all.) Now there are two very very simple conditions, very simple. The first one is not to feel guilty about anything. Supposing you have done some mistakes. So you need not feel guilty about it. It is all done. Finished. IT is past. (Here sit here in the front. It is alright.) And no use carrying that all the time. I have done this. I have done that. Actually the modern norms are also so funny that even if somebody say takes the spoon in the left hand and takes the knife in the right, he will go on thinking about it. Oh my goodness what did I do? So you should know that if you were guilty you would be in jail and not here. So none of you are guilty. It is just a fashion to feel guilty for everything. But do you know, feeling guilty what happens? This side of your centre, this centre is very important, gets caught up. And when this centre is caught up then you get first of all the disease called as angina which is a serious disease where the blood cannot reach the heart. Then after that, you get spondylitis, if not that then you get lethargic, very lethargic organs in your body. So why to carry any guilt, unnecessarily making yourself sick and torturing yourself. There is no need. You have to love yourself. You have to understand that you are human beings, and special people, very special people who are born to seek the truth. It is a very great achievement I think, that you are seeking. How many seekers were there at that time of Christ? Very few. At that time of Buddha very few, but today I find thousands and thousands. So you are something special, and that's why to respect yourself. You have to respect and you have to love it. You have no business to condemn yourself saying that I have done this guilt and I have done that wrong, that wrong. Forget it. It is conditioning. The second point, the condition I would, say is that you have to forgive everyone. Now many people told me that it is very difficult to forgive. But logically see whether you forgive or don't forgive what do you do? You don't do anything. You are just torturing yourself. Why do you want to torture yourself, while the people who have troubled you who you are not forgiving are enjoying life and you are torturing yourself? Now, logically you understand this. So just say in your heart, Mother, I forgive everyone. That's all. You have to say that in your heart. In your heart, 'I forgive everyone'. Don't think about them. Because thinking about them is also a headache. Just in general if you say it will work out. Why? Because this centre is like this. Absolutely constricted and if you do not forgive it will never open and Kundalini will not pass. So you have to forgive everyone. You don't do anything. Just you have to say,' I forgive everyone'.That's all. These are the two conditions. I think they are not very difficult. The third one, I have already requested that you have to take out your shoes, and nobody has minded it.I must tell you in England first time when I said that please take out your shoes, half of them walked out, so I was a little worried. I hope in Canada you are not attached to your shoes to that extent. (laughing). In short, you should be pleasantly placed towards your self. You should be Prasanna Chith. (Hindi) Become PrasannaChitha and sit. You should be pleasantly placed towards yourself and not to feel in any way guilty or in any way being tortured by someone, so you cannot forgive. You just forgive and see. Now please put your hands both of them like this towards me, just like this, simple. See because I told you these are the five centres sixth and seventh centre these are the endings of the Sympathetic Nervous system so the energy has to flow through this. You just put your hands towards me like this. Can you? Little higher, all of you, please a little higher. Now you have to close your eyes. You can take out your spectacles if you want. Please close your eyes. Now put left hand towards Me and right hand on top of the Fontellene bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Please put your right hand on top of your Fontellene bone area. Now bend your head as much as possible. Now please see if there is a cool or a hot breeze like vibrations coming out of the Fontellene bone area. So keep away from, not on top but away from the head. Move this hand up and down because some people see it very near the head and some people see a little far away. Just see if it is a cool or a hot breeze. If it is hot that means you have not yet forgiven. You have to forgive yourself and forgive others if it is hot, but doesn't matter, as long as you get the breeze like vibrations. Now please put the right hand towards me, bend your head, close your eyes and see with the left hand if there is a cool or a hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your Fontellene bone area. Forgive yourself and others. Please forgive yourself and forgive others. Now once again put your left hand towards me and put your right hand on top of your Fontellene bone area. Now bend your head and now see for yourself by moving your hand if there is a cool or a hot breeze like vibrations are coming out. Now slowly open your eyes and put both the hands towards me and watch me carefully. Don't think. Don't think, just don't think. Your thoughts will stop because you are in that state where I told you in a 'thoughtless awareness'.In Sanskrit, we call it Nirvichar Samadhi. Now if you are feeling something cool or hot coming below your hands you push them like that. Now raise both your hands towards the sky and here you have to ask one of these three questions, three times. One question three times. The first question is, you can call me Mother or Shri Mataji as you like.'Mother is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost?'Three times you have to ask. Or 'Mother, is this the All-Pervading Power of Divine love?'Three times you can ask this one Or 'Mother is this the Roo?'Is this the 'Alak Niranjan, Paramchaitanya?'Ask this three times again. Whichever one you want to ask. To verify. Now bring down your hands. Again please put them and watch me without thinking. All those who have felt cool or hot breeze on the palm or the fingertips or out of the Fontellene bone area, please raise both your hands. May God bless you. I have to forget Russia now. I can tell you. May God bless you. So blissful to see all of you getting 'Self Realisation', but now you should see that you grow in it. Like the seeds sprouts but it has to grow so you have to grow because the centres may be in jeopardy. Maybe there is some trouble there and it can be cured, it can be helped, it can be opened fully. The only thing you have to come to our follow up programs. It will be conducted, I don't know, they will tell you just now where it will be conducted. I hope you all enjoyed it very much and you will become part and parcel of the whole. May God bless you. They will sing some song, one song and you have to clap. In the clapping, you will see the vibrations will increase and improve. So enjoy it now. Enjoy the message. Enjoy yourself. Enjoy everything. Clapping. This is the song they are singing, was written by a Saint, in the twelfth century and here he is saying that, 'O Mother, give me the Yoga, jogua and then he says that I will do this and I will do that, but you please give me the yoga. Now this song is sung in all the villages of Maharashtra but they don't know what they are asking for. Now, Of course, it's much better but all of them have been singing this song in the villages as entertainment that, 'O Mother give me the Realisation', yoga, 'union with the Divine'.You may not understand the language but the vibrations you can feel. Song starts. People clapping. You see the Kundalini rising.'Ambe' is the Kundalini rising. That is how with the hands they sing ,like this you rise. The kundalini, rise like this. Thank you very much all of you.Thank you.

1997-06-20 Public Program, Vancouver, Canada I bow to all the seekers of Absolute truth. At the very outset, you have to know that truth is truth. You cannot change it. You cannot transfer it and you cannot describe it. Truth is to be experienced as told by all the saints, all the incarnations. You can not purchase it. You can not pay for it. It's a funny psychology when people say that we can't believe you because you don't take money. Still, I have not been able to understand why such an absurd idea prevails. Now whatever I am going to tell you today, please don't believe me blindfolded. We have had enough of trouble from blind faith, and this blind faith has led to all kinds of problems, false, cruelties, there is no end to it. So what one has to know that unless until you experience it you are not going to believe it and I tell you because you are seekers. You are true seekers, an ardent seeker. Special people. You will go on seeking till you find the absolute. So it is important that we must now bring a full stop to our seeking and get what we have been seeking and enjoy it. You have already been told about the subtle system that exists within us. Believe me, it is there and it works wonders. It is being kept there for your evolution. This is the last breakthrough of your evolution which you have to achieve that when this power rises she pierces through your Fontellene bone area and connects you to this all-pervading power of divine love. In different scriptures, it is discribed as with different words. For example, in the Bible, it is called as the 'cool breeze of the Holy Ghost', also 'all-pervading power of divine love'.But in the Quran, it is called 'Ruhu'. In other scriptures it is called as 'Brahma Chaitanya' and some have called it as 'Alakh Niranjan'.All this is the same name for one thing that is the, 'subtle energy of divine love around us'. So far we have not felt it as human beings. But with the ascent, we are going to feel it. For the first time, you are going to feel this great energy that looks after us which gives us complete protection, complete guidance as if it takes over all our problems and responsibilities. This is not just to be believed, again and again, I say, but to be experienced, how it protects, how it looks after you, how it nourishes you. Imagine in this one experience you get everything. And how much will you pay for it? It is so invaluable. How much did we pay to Shri Krishna or to Rama or to Jesus Christ? No saint has ever been sold like this. So this funny ideology that you must pay for everything doesn't apply here. If you decide not to pay to any guru of India or England or America, all of them will drop out. Because this is a business. It is a business for them and there is no business in Sahaja yoga. It's a natural phenomenon of your growth or your evolution as the last breakthrough. This has to be understood very clearly. If you understand that0, then I can explain to you what all things can happen to you once you get your Self Realisation'. Apart from describing about this all-pervading power, I would like to tell you, what happens to you once you become 'one with this divine power'.Just like this instrument, if it is not connected to the mains then it has no identity, it has no meaning.In the same way unless and until we are connected with the main switch the power that has created us we have no meaning and we have no identity.We may think of many things that we are this we are that, all these things are temporary you know very well, and they will drop off any time, but something that is eternal, that is the 'absolute truth' which you know through your spirit.So what is the 'absolute truth' is that you are not this body, you are not this mind.You are not this aspirations, conditionings and this ego, but you are the 'Pure Spirit'.You are the Pure Spirit which you have to become.Unless and until you become that you will be restless.You will be struggling.You will be seeking.You will not be satisfied with whatever you are doing.So to be the Spirit' what have you do is the ascent.Accent how do you achieve is through this Kundalini awakening which is the subtle energy in the triangular bone.Can you imagine, Greeks called it as Sacrum? Sacrum means secret.So they knew that it is a sacred bone and this is to be worshipped.It Is remarkable how in many countries the knowledge of Kundalini was known and it was known in Ukraine, you will be amazed.In Russia, known in Columbia and Bolivia and also in Greece.I mean so many countries I have visited I feel it was known among the aboriginal also that there is some sort of a power within us which will connect us to the divine.But later on, I don't know because of blind faith or maybe because of no subtle ideas people just forgot about it and that's how so many problems were created.So, first of all, we have to understand that we exist in the future or in the past.We have nowadays the problem of stress.Very common because we live in the past and the future which does not exist.In our brain from both the sides, it is like a balloon is two institutions as you have seen, get filled up with our conditioning and with our ego.These two balloons when they are completely full we get the feeling of what you call stress because there is no outlet to it and that's how you develop those problems which are very modern today.Now, this ego and conditionings make our mind.We have made this mind.We have conditioned it. Supposing I am born in India then I am an Indian and then I am conditioned by all Indian things.Supposing I am born in Canada, then I am a Canadian, if I born in a Christian family then I am a Christian, I am born in Hindu, then I am a Hindu, or born in a Muslim then I am a Muslim.So this conditioning goes into us without even thinking about it, without even understanding it. Even we get lost into the web of words which Sankhara Chariya has called as 'Subd Jalam' meaning the words.You go on reading, reading, reading, reaching nowhere.This web of words keeps us away from reality.This mind I always say is a myth because it is created by us.As we have created a computer we have created this mind.One day may come when we will become slaves of this computer.In the same way, we are the slave of this mind and just want to bother about this mind only, what it says what it guides.There is someone I was told in America who has come to say that I can tell you how to control the minds of others.And he says I can control the mind by showing a pendulum movement.Now just imagine people have sold their houses.They have taken out their children from the school with such a man who talks bombastically about these things, that you can project your mind here, you can project your mind there.What has this mind created?If you see today's films, today's creations, I can say, the modern culture, where the mind has gone?How far it has reached?What has it achieved?If you see the achievement of this human mind you might be quite amused.Except for very few things this mind has created more destruction, more destructive power and more hatred.If we have to listen to this mind, I don't know how this world is going to exist, because all the time there is competition, all the times there are conferences about how to destroy each other.This mind of ours has to be transcended.You have to go beyond this mind so when the thoughts are there about the future and the past, we are jumping on the cusp of the thoughts, but we are not in the present.If I say you be in the present then you can not.The present is the reality., not in the past or in the future but in the present and we can't be in the present because we cannot transcend this mind of ours.For that, the Kundalini does the job.She pierces through this mind, through a very constricted Agnya Chakra and comes out of Fontellene bone area.As a result, you become 'absolutely thoughtlessly aware', about which thank God, Yung has talked.Yung has said that "you have to first become thoughtlessly aware."You are fully aware but you are 'thoughtless.' This is very well described in our Patanjali and all these Shastras that he has very clearly said that once you become thoughtlessly aware, you have crossed your mind. At that point what happens to our awareness. What happens to us that we become absolutely peaceful. The so-called stress and strain all disappear. We become absolutely peaceful. Very much satisfied and we become like a 'witness'. We see the whole world, the working of the world as a witness. It is said in the Bible also that, 'you have to be the witness'.Said also that, 'you have to be born again'.That means people put a blackboard here saying I am born again. What does that mean? You just put some sort of a sign or signal here saying that I am born again. You are not born again. That is deceiving yourself. If you are born again then you have 'powers'. Like a bird is called as Dwijaha, in Sanskrit language and also a realized Soul is also called Dwijaha, that means 'born twice'.Dwihija I think. The one who is born twice like a bird he is an egg then he becomes a bird.In the same way, a human being is a human being then he becomes a bird, complete free.Freedom.Complete freedom he has.Freedom from all kinds of bad habits.All kinds of bondages.All kinds of wrong thoughts.All kinds of hatred and all other enemies of human beings.He becomes completely free and then he spreads his wings in the same way as a bird does.So this is what has to happen.That is what one has to get to is to get rid of these shackles which have put down our personality.Have created all the problems for us and for others.Now as there are some Shiks I must say, something it is said in their own Via Guru Nanak himself has said that (in Hindi translated) Why do go to jungles to find Him, HE is within you, you know yourself, and the self-knowledge is the only way you can realise.Every one of them have said so.Also, there is Kabira, he said, how am I to explain,(in Hindi) how can I make people understand because the whole world is blind.You see all the saints in India or all over have said, the same thing that you have to transcend.Transcend this mind and go beyond it into this new state of 'thoughtless awareness'.Then you become absolutely a gentle, beautiful loving personality.Your temper falls down.Your all anger falls, all kinds of ideas that hover in your mind all the time, all types of ideas stop.If you want to think you can think but if you don't want, you don't have to think.Then the whole picture now I see this beautiful church, the way the beautiful glasswork and all that work is so very beautiful but when I see this in thoughtless awareness, what happens that I don't think how much it must have cost, it might break or it should be insured, something, I don't think like that.What I feel is the joy, the artist who has done it.The joy of the artist who has put inside this beautiful stain work of Jesus.I feel the joy of that artist flowing in me and just cooling me down.You do not get ideas about how much I should pay, whether it is a carpet, now there is a carpet, how to put it sort of for insurance,and all these problems that face us, all this disappears.All that you see is the joy and get all the joy pouring into you and making your life so joyful and happy.This is the first state where you arrive which I call 'thoughtless awareness', which has all these qualities that manifest in your personality.But beyond that when you see that this Kundalini passes through your physical strata that is the part of the Chakras, you get better.Your health gets better.We have seen people cured of Cancer.Cured of all kinds of horrible diseases.Not only that.We have also seen people being mentally perfected, those who were mentally upset, depressed.Even lunatics have been cured with this happening.This is your own power.Nobody is obliged to anything.It is your own power.Own power, this is your own Mother which gives you your second birth.She has been waiting for this day, for this time, because you are so much, so much worthy of it.Because you are seekers, this is your birthright to have this realization. To have this self-knowledge. Because on your fingertips you know about your own centres.This is your self-knowledge.You know where are you, what is wrong with you because these centres are for your physical, mental, emotional and spiritual being.You can detect where are you catching, on what finger you are catching and thus it is all decoded and you can find it out.It is a very simple art which can work very well.Once you start understanding you are amazed at yourself how it is known to you at your fingertips.Everybody feels the same way because this is 'Absolute knowledge'.So there is nothing other knowledge.If the child says this finger is catching then everybody will say this finger is catching.That means something is very very wrong with the throat or maybe you are having some sort of a cancer of the throat.Depends on the intensity of this catching sometimes, you feel like burning, sometimes you feel it's very cool down, depending on what is the decoding of this.That is how you can cure yourself and also you can cure others.So this another awareness comes into you is of 'collective consciousness.'Collective Consciousness', that is who is the other.You can feel everyone on your fingertips.You know about everyone on your fingertips, whether he is dead or alive, whether he is near you or away, you just have to take the name and you can feel it.Now there are many people from India also from I don't know from everywhere, they come in the name of God.I mean I don't know how to describe, they are missing some people showing a hundred dollar note that if you send this to God, God will give you everything.Such a stupid thing also people, I don't know how people listen to such stupid things.Now you can make it out on your fingertips if this man is a truthful fellow or he is not.If he is trying to cheat you if he is trying to make a fool out of you.Only on your fingertips, you will know everything.It is not difficult at all even for children.Even the children can say what is wrong with another person is as far as the centres are concerned.Then these centres are decoded so you know what is wrong with this centre, this centre, for example one fellow came and asked me why they were asking me about my father. Everybody came and asked me about my father.Why? I said maybe this finger was catching.Now when he got Realisation' he felt the heat on this finger and it was verified.So all that we are saying is that it can be verified, is to be little bit have a little bit to learn with little patience, how to verify, what is the decoding at the most one month.In one month you can be masters.You all can be masters, you can correct others, you can give them Realisation'.Now, this is the power you get when you are twice-born.I said you must have powers.So the power you get is that you can raise the Kundalini of others.You can give them Realisation', and you can cure them. You can correct them, and also your whole being becomes nothing but a peaceful being because you are beyond your mind.People talk of peace.They give awards of peace, I have seen and met many people who have got these awards.They are horribly hot-tempered, horribly right-sided, aggressive people.But they get peace award from I don't know which angle they are given peace.Perhaps most of them have been instigating or have been starting some sort of trouble in any country and they have got the peace award.Peace has to be within us. Through only our transformation we can get peace.If we do not get our transformation, we cannot get peace within.We cannot.Our attention itself is so disturbed all the time, our attention itself has no peace but once you get this status of peace within you, you emit, your attention emits peace, it gives peace, because who is the other, whom are you going to fight.One finger of my hand does not fight with another finger.In the same way, we are part and parcel of the whole, like a microcosm becoming a macrocosm, we talk about it but you become.Again I say like in Sahajayogi you become. It is not just talking.It is not just giving a sermon.It is not just telling a story, it is what happens to you, that your whole personality changes.It gets completely transformed tonight you will get it.In one evening you can get it.Now the question is how to grow.Then we have here some very, very, good Sahajayogies, they are very humble, nice people.They will not touch your ego but might suck in your egos and you will find yourself extremely congenial, extremely beautiful and there is a big race of such people existing today.William Blake said there will be born people or the seekers he said, 'people of God', and they will know God, and they will become peaceful.He has said it very very clearly and that is what is happening today, and is going to work out. I call it the 'blossom time' and this blossom time is really, so many seekers are there and who are receiving their Realisation'.It is a fact.I am not telling you anything to gain anything.But this Canada I have visited many a times and I was surprised. In Canada, people are not that sensitive.Very surprising that people in Russia are extremely sensitive.Extremely sensitive.Once I went to the first time I went to Leningrad and there were hardly 2000 people inside the hall because the hall was for 2000 people but outside were 2000 sitting.They said Maa, what about us?I said alright let me finish with these people and then I will come out.When I came out they were still sitting there.My God, what to do?So I said "alright."I said, "can you come tomorrow, we will sit outside here on the grounds and we will have it".And so they came.But not only they.They came and those who inside came and 2000 more people came and since that day they are Sahajayogies.Since that day.I did not have to say now do this no, no, they just jumped into it.I must say this communism is not a very good thing, but the torture of the communism has made these people so deep, so sensitive, so introspective.They have been introspective that I know because I have been going to Russia before also with my husband.I always feel they are very introspective people but they were so deep I never knew.Now today there is a joke that one Sahajayogi from America went there and the Sahajayogi from one place Thalaiyatti asked him, how many Sahajayogies are there, it is a long time back. He said, we are 56000. He said my God you are 56000 we are only 21000 in Thalaiyatti. So you can imagine it is like fire it has spread. Of course in India I am not surprised, but for us the system traditionally we know what is our future. We know what we have to achieve. Traditionally we know, I mean, there are politicians and there are other things but the majority of the people in India know that we have to have our Self-realization, otherwise everything is useless. And so it is not so difficult. But in a place like Rumania, Russia, it has spread like fire. But not in the Western countries so much. Of course, it is, Italy is alright, I can say also Austria, Germany, but the transformation that has taken place in people is remarkable. First time when I went to Russia to Moscow 25 German Sahajayogies came. I asked him," how are you here?" "Mother is not our responsibility.? Our forefathers killed all these Russians so we think it is our responsibility that we should come." Now, this all I was so touched by the whole thing that look at these Germans, they are feeling so much for these Russians and then I was told that they have now gone to Israel.I said, "why to Israel?" Mother, how many Jews the Germans have killed. Is consciousness.They went to Israel, they spend their own money, they stayed there, they got some Israeli as Sahaja yogi. But then I was amazed that in Egypt, these Israeli came. I said, "how are you here?" They said, 'Mother we must make friends with these Muslims. Isn't it necessary that now we should be friends?"So they are all friends of pure relationship. There is nothing like somebody's husband running away with somebody wife and all that nonsense. All other pornography and all nonsense that you have here.Nothing of the kind. They are completely transformed and changed.Absolutely changed people. But one thing about them is that they are not so money-oriented. This money-oriented is going to lead us to a very great disaster you will see, very soon. You will be breaking our families, breaking our children, I don't know what is going to happen, because money can never give you pleasure. It can never give you joy. But I don't say that you don't have to earn money but then you feel satisfied and you do not become a greedy person destroying yourself. All this is possible if you become 'complete'.Unless and until you have the completeness, that fulfilment of your being is not there and then you start doing all kinds of things which has no meaning, which has no legal permission, neither it is good for you nor it is for your society and if you watch you will be amazed to see, how many are getting destroyed. In America they say that 65 per cent will become schizophrenic. It is beyond me to understand why should they? They have such nice medical science everything but schizophrenia is very common. Why? Because there is no balance. Only through this, the balance is established. You become one with yourself and you enjoy yourself in such a manner that you enjoy everyone. All these stupid ideas of enjoyment where you just waste your energy and create problems for each that doesn't exist. You get into such a beautiful mood, you enjoy everything then all this race and creed and religion and all these divide things which have separated us from one another just disappear into thin air, and you will be amazed how you achieve a state which is so beautiful and so peaceful. There is so much to be talked about and to be told about this, but I would say that I hope you will attend our follow up meetings where you don't have to pay any money again and if you are insisting on paying then you pay yourself but please attend this follow-ups. Before that, I have to give your Realisation', for which I hope you are ready. Those who want to have their Realisation' can only be in the hall. Those who do not want should go away because we cannot force it. I cannot force it. It can not be forced. It is so 'spontaneous'. It is a living process of your evolution which works 'spontaneously'. If you want it will work out if you don't want it it will not. So please I would request all of you to be here, if possible be humble, and not to be critical, don't doubt yourself, and it will work out. I am sure it will work out. It won't take much time it will just take short time for you. Hardly about 10 minutes. Something I have to suggest is that we have to take out our shoes. I hope you don't mind. (Some more people can come.No harm. If some people want to sit. Some more people can sit but doesn't matter you are far or near. Makes no difference at all.) Now there are two very very simple conditions, very simple. The first one is not to feel guilty about anything. Supposing you have done some mistakes. So you need not feel guilty about it. It is all done. Finished. IT is past. (Here sit here in the front. It is alright.) And no use carrying that all the time. I have done this. I have done that. Actually the modern norms are also so funny that even if somebody say takes the spoon in the left hand and takes the knife in the right, he will go on thinking about it. Oh my goodness what did I do? So you should know that if you were guilty you would be in jail and not here. So none of you are guilty. It is just a fashion to feel guilty for everything. But do you know, feeling guilty what happens? This side of your centre, this centre is very important, gets caught up. And when this centre is caught up then you get first of all the disease called as angina which is a serious disease where the blood cannot reach the heart. Then after that, you get spondylitis, if not that then you get lethargic, very lethargic organs in your body. So why to carry any guilt, unnecessarily making yourself sick and torturing yourself. There is no need. You have to love yourself. You have to understand that you are human beings, and special people, very special people who are born to seek the truth. It is a very great achievement I think, that you are seeking. How many seekers were there at that time of Christ? Very few. At that time of Buddha very few, but today I find thousands and thousands. So you are something special, and that's why to respect yourself. You have to respect and you have to love it. You have no business to condemn yourself saying that I have done this guilt and I have done that wrong, that wrong. Forget it. It is conditioning. The second point, the condition I would, say is that you have to forgive everyone. Now many people told me that it is very difficult to forgive. But logically see whether you forgive or don't forgive what do you do? You don't do anything. You are just torturing yourself. Why do you want to torture yourself, while the people who have troubled you who you are not forgiving are enjoying life and you are torturing yourself? Now, logically you understand this. So just say in your heart, Mother, I forgive everyone. That's all. You have to say that in your heart. In your heart, 'I forgive everyone'. Don't think about them. Because thinking about them is also a headache. Just in general if you say it will work out. Why? Because this centre is like this. Absolutely constricted and if you do not forgive it will never open and Kundalini will not pass. So you have to forgive everyone. You don't do anything. Just you have to say,' I forgive everyone'.That's all. These are the two conditions. I think they are not very difficult. The third one, I have already requested that you have to take out your shoes, and nobody has minded it.I must tell you in England first time when I said that please take out your shoes, half of them walked out, so I was a little worried. I hope in Canada you are not attached to your shoes to that extent. (laughing). In short, you should be pleasantly placed towards your self. You should be Prasanna Chith. (Hindi) Become PrasannaChitha and sit. You should be pleasantly placed towards yourself and not to feel in any way guilty or in any way being tortured by someone, so you cannot forgive. You just forgive and see. Now please put your hands both of them like this towards me, just like this, simple. See because I told you these are the five centres sixth and seventh centre these are the endings of the Sympathetic Nervous system so the energy has to flow through this. You just put your hands towards me like this. Can you? Little higher, all of you, please a little higher. Now you have to close your eyes. You can take out your spectacles if you want. Please close your eyes. Now put left hand towards Me and right hand on top of the Fontellene bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Please put your right hand on top of your Fontellene bone area. Now bend your head as much as possible. Now please see if there is a cool or a hot breeze like vibrations coming out of the Fontellene bone area. So keep away from, not on top but away from the head. Move this hand up and down because some people see it very near the head and some people see a little far away. Just see if it is a cool or a hot breeze. If it is hot that means you have not yet forgiven. You have to forgive yourself and forgive others if it is hot, but doesn't matter, as long as you get the breeze like vibrations. Now please put the right hand towards me, bend your head, close your eyes and see with the left hand if there is a cool or a hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your Fontellene bone area. Forgive yourself and others. Please forgive yourself and forgive others. Now once again put your left hand towards me and put your right hand on top of your Fontellene bone area. Now bend your head and now see for yourself by moving your hand if there is a cool or a hot breeze like vibrations are coming out. Now slowly open your eyes and put both the hands towards me and watch me carefully. Don't think. Don't think, just don't think. Your thoughts will stop because you are in that state where I told you in a 'thoughtless awareness'.In Sanskrit, we call it Nirvichar Samadhi. Now if you are feeling something cool or hot coming below your hands you push them like that. Now raise both your hands towards the sky and here you have to ask one of these three questions, three times. One question three times. The first question is, you can call me Mother or Shri Mataji as you like.'Mother is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost?'Three times you have to ask. Or 'Mother, is this the All-Pervading Power of Divine love?'Three times you can ask this one Or 'Mother is this the Roo?'Is this the 'Alak Niranjan, Paramchaitanya?'Ask this three times again. Whichever one you want to ask. To verify. Now bring down your hands. Again please put them and watch me without thinking. All those who have felt cool or hot breeze on the palm or the fingertips or out of the Fontellene bone area, please raise both your hands. May God bless you. I have to forget Russia now. I can tell you. May God bless you. So blissful to see all of you getting 'Self Realisation', but now you should see that you grow in it. Like the seeds sprouts but it has to grow so you have to grow because the centres may be in jeopardy. Maybe there is some trouble there and it can be cured, it can be helped, it can be opened fully. The only thing you have to come to our follow up programs. It will be conducted, I don't know, they will tell you just now where it will be conducted. I hope you all enjoyed it very much and you will become part and parcel of the whole. May God bless you. They will sing some song, one song and you have to clap. In the clapping, you will see the vibrations will increase and improve. So enjoy it now. Enjoy the message. Enjoy yourself. Enjoy everything. Clapping. This is the song they are singing, was written by a Saint, in the twelfth century and here he is saying that, 'O Mother, give me the Yoga, jogua and then he says that I will do this and I will do that, but you please give me the yoga. Now this song is sung in all the villages of Maharashtra but they don't know what they are asking for. Now, Of course, it's much better but all of them have been singing this song in the villages as entertainment that, 'O Mother give me the Realisation', yoga, 'union with the Divine'.You may not understand the language but the vibrations you can feel. Song starts. People clapping. You see the Kundalini rising.'Ambe' is the Kundalini rising. That is how with the hands they sing ,like this you rise. The kundalini, rise like this. Thank you very much all of you.Thank you.

6/22/1997

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Public Program, Canada, 1997-0622 Yogi: Can you turn the house lights off, please? Good evening everybody and welcome to this [UNCLEAR] of program on sahaja yoga, in the presence of Her Holiness, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. We shall now going to have, now have a brief introduction on the different aspects regarding sahaja yoga and basically it is going to be an introduction to ourselves that after Shri Mataji comes and She begins Her discourse, we are going to try to have before that a background in our minds uh.. as to what exactly should we expect, what exactly we would have then and try to on the context the meaning the things that She's going to tell you. Believe me, this evening is a [UNCLEAR] evening in the lives of all those of you who are going to see Her for the first time. To begin with, as we all know from different walks of life, through the ages the prophets and the seers, after whom the great religions have been established, have talked about an inner awakening, a search for the truth that exists within each one of us, the realization of the Divinity that exists within each one of us, the awakening of Divine potentials within each one of us and in doing so seek our integration, our union with the All-Pervading power of God. This has been called and termed through various terms, various modifications, various definitions and one of the commonest ones is yoga. Yoga actually means the union; The union of the Soul which is there within each one of us and that of the All-Pervading power of God and in the union between the Atma and the Parmatma or the individual Soul and the Supreme Soul. Shri Nanaka, who established or after whom came to be established the religion of Sikhism, said very clearly, ''Kaahe he mann khojat jaaye, sada niwasi, sada Alepa, tohe sung samaaye'' - Why is it that you go on searching for that external, without, when that which is the highest, is the most sublime is in fact within you? Christ spoke of the Kingdom of God saying that the Kingdom of God is within each one of us and we have to reach that Kingdom of God, that we have to be born again and upon which they [UNCLEAR] asked, one of the disciples that, ''Being born again, does it mean we have to enter our mother's womb?'' He said, ''No, the Kingdom of God which is within you has to be reached to a process and thus you have to take to a second birth.'' Lao tse spoke about the internal river that flows within each one of us; Confucius said about the same thing and thus you have all these people who have been through the centuries speaking about something within each one of us that has to be awakened. So what exactly were they speaking about? Were they speaking about different things - in fact, no. Socrates said, ''Know thyself.'' The essence of his philosophy was to know one's own self - meaning to be realized within one's own self. To have this union, to have this loss of attitude [UNCLEAR] between the self and the other person, to have, in other words, the complete union that was to have the yoga. Now, the instrument of this yoga resides within each one of us and it is possible for each one of us to achieve this state. At this point of time, permit me to emphasize, that what we are going to see just now, is nothing new, is not an invention, is not a new discovery. It has been something which has been spoken about again through the scriptures in the Bhagwad Gita, in the Bible, in the Granth Sahib. In the Koran it has been said time and again and many have tried to achieve this state and many did, however, their numbers have been far and [UNCLEAR] between because because on the Holy Spirit ladder, on the process of our evolutionary scale, the time had not come for everybody to achieve this state. As all of us know, human evolution has been progressing for millions of years from unicellular actually simple organisms to highly complex, highly evolved multi-cellular, multi-functional organism, which is the human-being who is at the apex, the epitome of evolution - we have evolved to this [UNCLEAR]. But the evolutionary process has now reached it's penultimate stage and now we have to cross over into that area whereby for the human level, from the consciousness at the human level we have to achieve that which is beyond, which is beyond the limited human consciousness. and thus the time has come which Shri Mataji prefers to call as the Blossom time where the Universal Self has to be reached by the individual Self. The individual consciousness has to be integrated with the Universal Unconscious. and that is where sahaja yoga comes into the picture. Sahaja yoga makes this process extremely simple and the awakening of this power within us takes place without any effort - absolutely effortlessly. Sahaja yoga, by definition, is a synthesis of two words - 'Saha' means with and 'Ja' means that which is born with. So sahaja means that which is born with and that is how the yoga takes place. Now let us see as to what is this instrument of integration that is present within each one of us. As you can see in this chart, we have about three channels flowing within each one of us. On the right hand side we shall see a yellow channel which is called as the Rajogun or is called as the Pingala Nadi. On the left hand side we have, what is called as the Ida Nadi or is the Moon channel and in between we have a channel which is called as the Sushumna Nadi or what is called as the Satwagun. Now these aspects have also been spoken about at length in different philosophies. The Chinese called it or have called it the 'Yin' and the 'Yang' or the power of the action or that was the passive power and that was the active power. In Ayurveda it has been called as the three different elements which govern the life of the individual. And here we see that this is precisely what they have been talking about that the right side, which corresponds to the Right Sympathetic system, is the channel whereby we are able to act - it gives us the power of action. On the left side which is, as you perhaps might be able to perceive, is the dark blue colored channel, which is the passive side, is the moon which we call it the channel of the moon and that is the side which gives us the power of desire. It is through this channel that we get the power of desiring things. So we can desire through our left side that is the left channel and we can act out those desires through the right side. The most important one, is the one in the center which is called as the Satwagun, which is the central path of evolution and within this central path are situated different centers, different energy centers, which in ancient Sanskrit text have been called as chakras meaning seats or seats of power. There are about seven main chakras in the body and we shall take up quick look and follow them and, of course, there is the Kundalini energy, a dormant energy lying within each one of us which is, in fact, the instrument of our union with the Divine, which actually brings about the union between the individual Self and the cosmic Self. It is extremely difficult to cover everything in a brief introductory talk but we shall try to understand as much as we can so that we can have, as I said before, a brief background as to what we shall be privileged to hear once Shri Mataji takes the floor. At the bottom we have a red colored chakra, which is called as the Mooladhara chakra; Now these chakras are situated within the Central Nervous system - they are extremely subtle, not perceivable to the human eye very visually, however, they have anatomical correspondences. For example, though we may not be able to see the three channels they correspond on the right side to the right sympathetic chain, the left side, the left side sympathetic chain and the Satwaguna or the middle channel corresponds to the Parasympathetic chain. Similarly, the seven energy centers correspond to seven anatomical plexuses within the human body. A plexus is nothing but an aggregate of nerves. So we start at the bottom, which is a red colored chakra, is called as the Mooladhara chakra, it is the seat of our innocence, it is the seat of our purity, it is the seat of our chastity. On the awakening of this chakra, through Kundalini awakening, these are the qualities that manifest within each one of us. And thus as we progress through these channels, through these chakras which [UNCLEAR -I'LL ENUMERATE?] very briefly what are the qualities of each one of these chakras and what are the benefits that we are going to get out of it because the bottom line is, okay if we do sahaja yog, if we take our Self-realization, what's in it for us? So as we shall advance, we shall realize that there is indeed a virtual storehouse of benefits for each one of us. Above the red colored chakra we see a triangular bone which corresponds with the gross sacrum bone at the bottom of the vertebral column. Here resides the Kundalini shakti, what is called in Sanskrit as the Kundalini shakti. It is a dormant, residual energy within each one of us and it is to the ascent of this energy that as we have said before, ''We'll seek our Self-realization.'' Above that we have a yellow colored chakra which is called as the Swadishthan chakra, is the second center. It is the center of creativity, of activity, of intellectual functions and it is through the exercise of this center that we are able to plan, we are able to think we are able to [UNCLEAR - ACT UP? ], we are able to conceptualize and naturally an over-functioning of this chakra can result in imbalances. Above that we have a green colored chakra, which is called as the Manipura chakra, which corresponds to the Aortic plexus in the human body and this chakra has qualities which give us a sense of proportionality, a sense of balance, a sense of satisfaction, a sense of integration, a sense of dharma as is said in the ancient Sanskrit text, which means a sense of duty - a duty that is sacred, a sense of duty that is there within each one of us. Duty as a citizen of this country, duty as a citizen of this, as a member of this social [UNCLEAR], duty as a husband, as a father, as a son, as a daughter, as a friend Within each of our interaction, within the social [UNCLEAR] we have certain duties to perform in an ideal way, in a perfect way and it is to this said that we get an ideal as to how these duties are to be performed. Above that we have the fourth chakra which is also the heart chakra. It has got two components - on the left side one and on the right side one as well as one in the center. Through this center we get the power of comfort, we get security and it is this center, which is in these modern times, completely in a state of imbalance because of a great amount of physical activity, emotional stress, insecurity through careers, through jobs, due to various other factors - economic, social, convenient just naming. So anything secretly results in an imbalance in this chakra and the raising of the Kundalini puts this chakra in a state of balance giving us the gift of security. Above this chakra we have the fifth chakra, which is called as the Vishudhhi chakra, which corresponds with the Cervical plexus within us. This is the center of communication, our inter-personal relationships - the way we relate to each other as family members, as friends, as individuals in a working environment, as, as individuals in this society, as citizens of the world. This is the center that brings about integration within human beings. Above this we have the sixth center, which is called as the Agnya chakra and it corresponds to the optic chiasma within the human physical body. As you know, within us in the brain there exists a place called as the optic chiasma where the optic nerves actually cross over each other and then go backwards. Now this was, somehow, known to the ancient sages, ancient prophets, who through their Divine realization, had realized and had actually seen this subtle system within each one of us and had already mentioned about it. So this is an extremely crucial center because through this center we get the power of thought, the power of thinking, the power of rationalization and the two channels of the left side and the right side, basically, cross over at this point and terminate into the two balloons of the ego, which is a yellow colored balloon on the left hand side of the head and into a blue colored balloon on the right hand side of the head which are the corresponding the balloons of the ego and the superego. Lastly, we come to the seventh center, which is the Sahasrara chakra, which is the seventh center which corresponds to the limbic system within the human brain. Now this is the center which contains the seats of all the previous six centers and when the Kundalini ascends through all the six centers and gets go up to then once again the Swadishthan chakra, then the second center, the Nabhi chakra or Manipur chakra, then the third one, the Heart chakra, which is the fourth one, the fifth chakra, which is the Vishhudhi chakra, the sixth one and, finally, the seventh chakra which is the Sahasrara chakra. Once the Kundalini comes out of the seventh chakra, it establishes a contact with this All-Pervading power of God and that is the state which has been described in all the Scriptures as the state of Self- realization. This is the state wherein an individual becomes thoughtlessly aware - is not that is not aware of his surroundings but he is in a state of thoughtlessness and very difficult as it might perhaps be to believe this state is very easily achievable. because as most of us know that when a thought process starts, it starts very slowly, achieves a crest - achieves a peak level of activity - and then it gradually falls down and then the second level starts, the second thought starts and throughout our lifetimes we spend consciously jumping from one thought to the other, to the next and to the next. However, there is a time between two successive thoughts when there is an infinitesimally small space of time wherein you are actually thoughtless but we are not aware of it because it is going on at such a fantastic speed. Through the process of Kundalini awakening we can stay between that [UNCLEAR - IN THAT OR INACTIVE?] period, between two thoughts and be actually thoughtless. This is the state known as the Nirvicharita, which means the state of thoughtlessness which has been described again and again through the scriptures. My dear friends, what I would like to emphasize is, that sahaja yoga brings about this entire process very spontaneously, very effortlessly without involving number one any form of payment of any sort. You don't have to pay a single penny to get your Self-realization because as Shri Mataji says, ''You cannot buy your Self-realization and God, most importantly doesn't understand money.'' To achieve this state without any effort, without the chanting of any hymns, any mantras, going through any long procedures of fasting, physical exercise, any physical [UNCLEAR], any conditionings, you don't have to give up any thing, you don't have to take any preset conditions It is extremely simple, it is extremely spontaneous, it is extremely effortless, it is extremely effective - it works. Sahaja yoga is today being practiced in more than 65 countries of the world including the former Soviet Union and the Soviet Republics we have hundreds of thousands of yogis all over the world practicing sahaja yoga. Now, what are the benefits of sahaja yoga? Briefly as we have seen, each one of these chakras, have their special qualities and as the Kundalini energy, which is like a Mother, which is our spiritual Mother waiting to give us this great opportunity to be born again, She nourishes these chakras just like a mother nourishes her own offspring. And thus through the process of Kundalini awakening, the qualities of each one of these chakras starts manifesting through each one of us and thus we can become and we have such people all over the world today who are beautiful citizens beautiful individuals leading extremely moral, chaste, beautiful lives serving a great function not only to themselves but to the societies and to the nations of which they are the citizens. These are the benefits of sahaja yoga in a nutshell. Apart from this you also enjoy very good physical health, psychological health, emotional health and mental health because sahaja yoga helps you to achieve a state of an integrated personality where there is no conflict within yourself and thus you don't have conflicts with others. You don't enter into conflicts with others because you are established in a state of peace and when you are at peace with yourself, you don't feel like getting into a state of disturbance, getting into a state of war even at a mental, at an intellectual level with others. Let us now try to understand as to who is the person behind this great Spiritual happening. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi was born in India in 1923 in a Christian family. She took part to, She was the child of extremely patriotic parents, very learned, highly intelligent, very well educated - Her father could speak so many languages fluently, Her mother was a Masters [UNCLEAR - OLDER, VERY OLDER?] in Mathematics. Into such uh.., such a intellectual, highly gifted and patriotic family She was born in 1923. As most of Marathi might be knowing, those were the years when India was trying to get it's independence. and Her parents were deeply involved with the [UNCLEAR]. So at the very young age She got Herself involved in the Indian freedom movement. She even stayed with Mahatma Gandhiji in his ashram at Wardha and at Sabarmati in India and after Indian independence during those years She was married to a gentleman who later served extremely important post within the Indian government and later on in the United Nations. She was married to Dr. C.P. Srivastava, who was the personal secretary to the late Prime Minister of India, Shri Lala Bahadur Shastri and thereafter Dr. Srivastava, Her husband, was for six consecutive terms the elected Secretary General of the International Maritime Organization which is a very important division of the United Nations. The point that one tries to make is, Shri Mataji has been a married person, She has two daughters, She has grandchildren and they're married so She is an absolute householder, an absolutely seemingly, an absolutely apparently and absolutely on the base of it a very domestic person like you and me and each one of us in this auditorium and beyond. She has completely played Her role as a daughter, as a citizen, as a wife, as a Mother, as a grandmother to each one with absolute perfection to such an extent that all of them even today are extremely devoted to Her. She enjoys a completely blissful married life with Her family but beyond this She is the spiritual guide to millions of Her devotees around the world and She has established this movement of sahaja yoga at the same time keeping Her connection, Her duties towards Her family which brings us to the most important point and the most wonderful point about sahaja yoga, which is that you can have a state of God realization, you can continue to have your state of Zen, your state of thoughtless awareness without having to divorce yourself from any or all of your duties as a normal citizen, as a normal individual. We can continue with our lives, with our careers, with our married life, with our social lives and yet enjoy the state of bliss and happiness. The reason why one tries to emphasize this point has been, is because till sahaja yoga was brought into effect people could achieve the state of Self- realization. However it took decades and decades of, sometimes fruitless perseverance, fruitless effort to achieve this state. People had to leave their jobs, they had to leave their families, go and stay and meditate for years together just to achieve that fraction of this wonderful state. But after 1970, after Shri Mataji established sahaja yoga, this is the blossom time when not one, not two but people in the thousands can achieve this state because human evolution has reached a point now where they can get this wonderful happening within each one of us. I shall now, [UNCLEAR] This is the song is in the Hindi language and the words [MUSIC] [SONG] - Awaaz uthayeinge, hum saaz bajayeinge, hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge Awaaz uthayeinge, hum saaz bajayeinge, hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, lala La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, lala Chaitanya bahe jahan tak Maa, Hai roop Tumhara hi Hai nirakaar phir bhi, hai swaroop Tumhara hi Chaitanya bahe jahan tak Maa, Hai roop Tumhara hi Hai nirakaar phir bhi, hai swaroop Tumhara hi Yeh shakti roop Tumhara, hum sab ko dikhayeinge hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge Awaaz uthayeinge, hum saaz bajayeinge, hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, lala La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, lala Anmol khazana ban gaya, dil Teri mohabbat se Parivartit harshit ban gaya, yeh Teri ulfat se Anmol khazana ban gaya, dil Teri mohabbat se Parivartit harshit ban gaya, yeh Teri ulfat se Pratibha ki Teri baatein, hum sab ko sunayeinge hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge. Awaaz uthayeinge, hum saaz bajayeinge, hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge. hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge. [CLAPPING] In this next song is about Kundalini; It's called 'Kundalini rise' O, Nirmala Mata, Mata O, Nirmala Mata, Mata You are my life, You are my life, You are my heart You are my heart, You are my life, So please, Kundalini rise Kundalini rise, Shri Ganesha, Kundalini rise, Nirmala Mata, Kundalini rise, Saraswati, Kundalini rise, Adishakti, Kundalini rise, Mahalaxmi, Kundalini rise, [UNCLEAR] Mata, Kundalini rise, Adiguru, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise Kundalini rise, O, Nirmala Mata, Mata O, Nirmala Mata, Mata You are my life, You are my life, You are my heart, You are my heart, You are my life, So please, Kundalini rise Kundalini rise, Durga Mata, Kundalini rise Nirmala Mata, Kundalini rise, Jagdamba, Kundalini rise Adishakti, Kundalini rise Vishnumaya, Kundalini rise Mahalaxmi, Kundalini rise, Nirmala Mata Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise O, Nirmala Mata, Mata O, Nirmala Mata, Mata You are my life, You are my life, You are my heart, You are my heart, You are my life, So please, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise, Nirmala Mata, Kundalini rise, Bhagawati, Kundalini rise, Adishakti, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise, Kundalini, Kundalini rise, Nirmala Mata, Kundalini rise, Bhagawati, Kundalini rise, Shri Mataji, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise, [CLAPPING] Saat janam jo, punya kiye hain, safal hue saare Saat janam jo, punya kiye hain, safal hue saare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la Dukhiyon ka dukh door kare Tu, Ma Nirmala Devi Dukhiyon ka dukh door kare Tu, Ma Nirmala Devi Humsabka uddhaar kare Tu, shaanti sukh Devi Humsabka uddhaar kare Tu, shaanti sukh Devi Sab dharmon ko chod charan mein, Sab dharmon ko chod charan mein, aaye sharan Tihaare aaye sharan Tihaare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la - Jai Mataji La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la Aham bhao ko chod Tumhare, sharan charan aata Aham bhao ko chod Tumhare, sharan charan aata Bhavasagar ke dukh sukh se Ma, poorna paar utaar Bhavasagar ke dukh sukh se Ma, poorna paar utaar Na aandhi ho na ho toofaan, Na aandhi ho na ho toofaan, sankat tal hi jaaye Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la, Jai Mataji La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la Dekar mangal aashirwad Tu, paavan mujhe banaa Dekar mangal aashirwad Tu, paavan mujhe banaa Janam maran ke phere mit gaye Janam maran ke phere mit gaye, khul gaye bhAgnya hamare khul gaye bhAgnya hamare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la Saat janam jo, punya kiye hain, safal hue saare Saat janam jo, punya kiye hain, safal hue saare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare darshan hue Tumhare darshan hue Tumhare [CLAPPING] Shri Mataji has arrived [CLAPPING] [UNCLEAR] Shri Mataji. She has arrived [CLAPPING] [CLAPPING] Swagat aagat swagatam Swagat aagat swagatam, Hum sab karte swagatam Hum sab karte swagatam Aaj hamare beech padhaare Shri Mataji Aap hain taare Jhoom jhoom ke, jhoom jhoom ke karte hain gaan Jhoom jhoom ke, jhoom jhoom ke karte hain gaan Swagat aagat swagatam, Swagat aagat swagatam, Nirmal Mataji ke [UNCLEAR -SWAGATAM?] Nirmal Mataji ke darshan paakar Karte hain swagat dil se gaakar Karte hain swagat dil se gaakar Prem phoolon ki maala pehnate hain Prem phoolon ki maala pehnate hain Swagat aagat swagatam, Swagat aagat swagatam, Hum sab karte swagatam Hum sab karte swagatam Nirmal Maa se viniti hamaari Nirmal Maa se viniti hamaari Jeewan sukh se kar dein bhaari Jeewan sukh se kar dein bhaari Anand, prem, shaanti sada hi rahe Anand, prem, shaanti sada hi rahe Swagat aagat swagatam, Swagat aagat swagatam, Hum sab karte swagatam Hum sab karte swagatam Aaj hamare beech padhaare Shri Mataji Aap hain taare Jhoom jhoom ke, jhoom jhoom ke karte hain gaan Jhoom jhoom ke, jhoom jhoom ke karte hain gaan Swagat aagat swagatam, Swagat aagat swagatam, Swagat aagat swagatam, [MUSIC] [INAUDIBLE] Mike le aao. [INAUDIBLE] Mike nahin hai Hai? - Is it alright? - Haan - Can you all hear Me, please? - Yes, Mother. - Thank You. Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of Absolute Truth. At the very outset we have to know what is Absolute Truth is. Whatever I'm going to tell you today, please do not accept it. and do not take it for granted because this blind faith has created so many problems as you know. In every country we have people who have such tremendous blind faith that for ages together, for generations together they have been blinded where they are born, what is their community, what are their parents, what nationality they belong to, what race they belong to. All these have created tremendous conditioning in our mind. and we are bound - we are not free - we are bound, bound by all these ideologies and everything that we have been hearing, which we have been reading about, which we have been knowing. So, for people who are seekers of Absolute Truth must understand that so far have not found out Absolute Truth. Now, what is the Absolute Truth? Absolute Truth has been told by all the great Incarnations and all the saints of the world is that, ''That truth lies within you and that you are not this body, this mind, not this aspirations and ego and conditionings and also emotions but you are the pure Spirit.'' This is the state you have to achieve Now these modern times, I call them as Blossom Times - they are special times all being already predicted in so many scriptures, especially, in a scripture called as Naadi Granth written by the pioneer of our astrology, Bhrigumuni. He said, ''At these times people who are seeking reality or truth in the hills and dales and caves will find the truth.'' Of course, as you know that many people are just get enamored by things which are hellish, which are nothing to do with truth. Where you must have heard of so many people committing suicide, going into big violence, killing others all sorts of things which are hellish and they [UNCLEAR] that they are seekers of truth - they cannot. Truth means tranquility, peace. It means also joy. Have you heard of every saint who started a tirade against killing others? Unless and until they were very much attacked, like at the time of Islam, they did not take to it because they do not feel safe and protected. But the problem with all of them was that, they were not connected to the Divine power of truth, to Divinity. In their thought they thought they belonged to some sort of a community, to some sort of a and that is the point why they lost and we are surprised why should they suffer. Now the time has come, special time as I told you, blossom time, where many flowers are born and they have to achieve their complete maturity - become fruits. This maturity will be possible if you have a steady mind. They start doing guru shopping, going from one to another. If, say, a plant is removed all the time from one place to another, how will it improve? You don't have to pay for it. Also this is another very great objection for Me that you don't have to pay for sahaja yog. They think that if you have paid then you have to do less work - you have paid for it. Secondly, perhaps, maybe, they might think, '' Oh, what is the credibility?'' Now, something that cannot be sold, which is invaluable, we have to think about Christ, how much did we pay? Think of anybody who was an Incarnation; How can you pay for your Self-realization? How much do we pay for this Mother Earth which produces beautiful flowers for us? We don't pay Her anything. In the same way you cannot pay for this living process of your evolution which is a last breakthrough, is the last breakthrough of your evolution. So firstly we must understand what this can [UNCLEAR] in our way, in our realization. If I say, this mind, this human mind is the most artificially created obstacle by us. Through our ego, through our conditionings we have created this mind which stops us from entering into that realm of peace, tranquility, of Divine love. How to cross this mind has been a problem for all the seekers because it bombards you with thoughts, all the time it's bombarding your thoughts - thoughts are coming from the future or from the past and we are not in the present. Just now if I say, you be in the present, you cannot be. You'll be immediately thrown to the future side or to the past. These two sides all the time keeps us tossing. The thought comes like this and falls down, another thought comes and falls down and we are dancing on the cusp of all these thoughts all the time and that's why we are restless, that's why we are upset, that's why we have so many problems of our mind itself. Apart from that we have so many other problems - many diseases are there which we do not know how to cure and if you try to cure one disease, you get another one. It's a very funny thing that if you try to cure, say schizophrenia you get another disease which is because of Dopamine or what ever is, is called as - you get another disease which is more serious when your hands, your feet all start shaking. So now, between these two how are we in the center? For that, our Creator has created this beautiful subtle system within us - whether you believe it or not, it exists. When you are suffering from [UNCLEAR - BODY'S?] diseases and if your power, residual power, which we call as Kundalini, who is your mother, your individual mother - all of them have your individual mother. she knows everything for you, she knows what are your aspirations, she knows what mistakes you have committed, she knows where you have been - it's all recorded but she's extremely anxious to give you this second birth and for that spontaneously she rises, rises and pierces through this fontanel bone area and connects you with this All-Pervading power of Divine love. We have heard about it, we have studied about it, we call it by different names for disciple of Christ call it, 'The two breeds of the Holy Ghost,' very clearly. Then in the Sanskrit language it's called as Paramchaitanya. Also in the Bible is described as the All-Pervading power of Divine love and also Guru Nanak and all these saints have described it as 'Alakh Niranjan' It's a beautiful world 'Alakh' you can see that. Niranjan means it is without any amusement That's the one is the Spirit of the Holy Ghost, we can say, the power of the Holy Ghost which is around us and when the Spirit comes and it is enlightened, we can feel that power flowing through our Central Nervous system. So there's a word called as 'Budh' from where 'Buddha' has come - meaning to know 'Bodh' means to know on your finger-tips, to know on your Central Nervous system. It is not just lecture, it's not just creating a sign of a red, 'O, I'm a Christian, I'm a Hindu or I'm a Muslim or I'm a twice born.' A person who is a twice born, is a person who is a realized soul whose Spirit is emitting vibrations on the nerves through the Central Nervous system. It's so close to Science, it's so simple with the Science and when this starts happening then you get this [UNCLEAR], you can call this Self-knowledge. Also in Sanskrit there is one word called Veda from where the Vedas are written. Ved means Vid, Vid means to know on Central Nervous system First stanza of Vedas is that, 'If reading all this, if you do not get it vid of it, means it's known on the Central Nervous system, it's all useless. Shankaracharya has said very clearly, ''Oh Mother! take me out of this webs of words.'' He called it 'Shabdjalam' - out of this webs of words. You go on reading, reading, reading and Kabira has said, ''Padhi, padhi pandit murakh bhaye.'' - by reading too much even the learned becomes stupid. I used to think, 'What is he talking about, what does that mean? If people read, then how can they become stupid?'' Because others go into your head. It's the knowledge of the other people in your head - their own brain is finished. Well, I've met many like that over read people. They just go on talking, talking, talking. God knows what they are talking - incoherently sometimes. So whatever these people have said, I have seen and I've seen in people happen but I've seen something more in these modern times that spontaneously thousands of people get realization It's an enmasse happening - it's not one person giving realization to one person. It's said in the twelfth century [ie 1200s] in India - there was one, we can call them as one type of seeking. Once somewhere seeking the right side someone left one particular center and they were called as 'Avadhutas' - Machindernath and Gorakhnath, two great people uh…, saints, you see. They went up to Burma, they went to even Russia, they went to uh.. Volimia and these people talked about kundalini. So they know about Kundalini but they don't know how to awaken it and they have run away, these people have run away to Bolivia and all that so it's [UNCLEAR] the knowledge is still [UNCLEAR] in Bolivia [UNCLEAR - SO HIGH UP?]. You can imagine, this knowledge has been there for thousands and thousands of years but has been finished by people who are supposed to be uh.. people in charge of religion; You call them 'Dharma Martand.' They would not accept, they said, 'No, this all nonsense. Even in twelfth century [ie 1200s] when Gyanadeva, such a great poet, wrote about it in the sixth chapter of his book, they said, ''This is something is not to be seen 'nishiddh' - you're not to read this,'' because they didn't want people to have this true knowledge because if they have true knowledge the existence of all these type of people will disappear and then how will they manage because they are money-making or power-oriented, so how will they gain? This was the purpose of deleting all this knowledge completely from human existence. Now, when I start talking about it, people say it's a cult. I don't know how it is a cult when it has been described [UNCLEAR] It has to be experienced, works no doubt. So, the first of all, as I told you, that you get rid of your sicknesses, your illnesses, your physical illnesses. Doctors are easiest to come to sahaja yog because they see the difference between the treatment of sahaja yoga and treatment of anything. We have definitely cured cancer, definitely cured cancer, definitely cured also AIDS, no doubt but the problem with AIDS people are they're thinking they are martyrs and they're formed in groups of people that they are great martyrs, you know such a martyr - now how can you cure them? They are under a wrong impression that they are dying, like martyrs they're dying; They have flags and they have big, big [UNCLEAR] everywhere - what can you do to such people? But it can cure most of your illnesses - most. I wouldn't say guarantee because maybe, some may not receive it This is the first thing that happens that physically you get cured. Mentally - mentally also many diseases have been cured. We have more mental diseases than we have physical. They're saying, in America very soon there will be 65% people suffering from Schizophrenia - can you imagine? What are we going to do in that country 65% people are suffering but when I tell them they don't want to believe. Why not? Because you don't have to pay anything, you are not given any medicine - nothing. You are cured through sahaja yoga treatment. Why not go and see that, see for yourself. But the whole medical science depends on how much money you earn naturally; Because we don't earn any money so people don't like us. It's very funny thing but it is happening. Then, all your emotional problems are solved. We have had marriages after marriages every year I don't know how many are married and every year at least, hundred are married in India, also in Russia. About 1% people get divorced - that we don't mind. Divorce is important if it is absolutely [UNCLEAR] If it's troubles each other, it's alright. But only 1%, at the most, people take divorce and they have children who are extremely talented, beautiful, loving, respecting - they are out of the blue beautiful children and at a very young age they prosper so we started school in Dharamshala. There's a place in India where it is nice and good and normally in India people have good schools away from the madding crowd of the cities and villages. You'll be amazed to know, that in the Matriculation exam that we have, which is a very difficult exam, I think, compared to any other country, in India, the first person, first of first in the whole of India, was from our school and all the children who appeared for that exam, got first class. To get first class in that examination, is very difficult because it's not an ordinary type of course and imagine, this girl got first class first in the whole of the country - how? And she is American, both parents are American. It's very surprising how it has happened but because your creativity improves, your retention power improves, your memory improves and your attention itself becomes so pure that you don't go on seeing things which are useless, you don't waste your energy, you only see things which give you joy. Your attention is so, so sharp and so loving; It is attention that works everything. Imagine this attention which is hovering here and there and wasting it's energy and all the energy of the body - this attention becomes so sharp and so loving that it goes to places wherever it is required. Because it's Absolute knowledge, the attention itself becomes Absolute. Whatever your attention will tell, is the fact. Now how do you get the attention on your finger-tips [UNCLEAR]? You can feel on your finger-tips which center is out of caring, which is in jeopardy. You immediately feel on your finger-tips, you yourself become the detector [PLEASE THERE - AFTER THE LECTURE, ALRIGHT?] So, you yourself automatically know what's the matter with you, on your finger-tips - you have Self-knowledge. Now you don't get worried and upset, you take sahaja yoga treatment, you're alright, your chakras are alright, are cleaned out, centers are perfect. Then you can also feel others so you can know what's wrong with the others. Now there are many I know here in this country also in America all over because you're well off people in search of money come here as big gurus and I don't know what they call themselves. Some of them just have changed and wearing saffron clothes they have no [UNCLEAR] about them and they say say we're [UNCLEAR], we're this, we're that and people are so simple they believe them. And so many have minted money. There's one in now in America And he gives some sort of a pendulum to move then you can move the pendulum [UNCLEAR] But what upset Me was that, so many people have sold their houses, taken out their children from school and are suffering so much, so much money [UNCLEAR] So, one has to understand that Absolute truth is to be felt on your Central Nervous system; It is an experience, it is a becoming, you become something. For example, in Sanskrit a realized soul is called as 'Dwijah' - born again and a bird is also called a dwijah because bird is an egg and then it becomes a bird. In the same way we are in the web of our conditioning and ego but this egg opens up and we grow our wings and complete freedom, complete freedom because you're by freedom you never do wrong things, you'll not do anything that is destructive to yourself and to others. I mean, it's something they talk of religion as if you have become religion or you are beyond religion, you don't need religion - you are religion. That's the state you get and is already described in so many books but we don't understand because it's said sometimes it is in poetry, sometimes in abstract way but you become religious. So first state comes to us when these thoughts are all hovering on our head, when the Kundalini rises She elongates this these thoughts and in between is the bliss of peace where you don't think. In Sanskrit it is called 'Nirvichara Samadhi' We can call it thoughtless awareness - you're completely aware but you are thoughtless, without any thoughts. If you want to think, you can think but if you don't want to think, you need not think. It is fantastical - you become so peaceful that you do not react - reaction goes away That's how family life, national life - everything can be improved. And when you see something, see I see this beautiful carpet here so I don't think, I just watch because if I start thinking, I'll think how much it is, who's it is - if it is mine, I'll be worried it - I should ensure it and all sorts of things. But if there is no thought, I just watch and the joy of the artist which is in this carpet starts in an abstract way starts flowing and starts [UNCLEAR] Me. Really beautiful things when you see, don't have to think and the whole thing becomes like a peace giving apparatus. Feel so tranquil and so peace and this modern disease that has come of stress and strain disappears. Absolutely disappears. There is no stress, there is no strain because this has opened now, everything passes out. But at the same time the problem gets solved - how? Supposing you are standing in the water, then you are afraid of the waves that are rising but supposing that you get into the boat, then you watch. You watch and enjoy also. Enjoying [UNCLEAR] waves don't trouble. Then what do you do? Supposing you learn swimming. Swim, go down and save many others who are getting completely lost. This happens to you as a matter of your powers - you become that, you become that powerful and the second great thing that happens is that you become collectively conscious - samoohik. Like on the fingers [UNCLEAR] you can feel others. Who is the other then? You become part and parcel of the whole; The microcosm becomes the macrocosm. It is said, said but now you become again part and parcel of the whole and the whole looks after you. It gives you such a protection that you are amazed. Recently there was an accident in Philadelphia - [UNCLEAR - FOUR?] sahaja yogis [UNCLEAR] were travelling and the car was crashed. They came back to New York with tears in their eyes, I said, ''What happened?'' ''Mother, You have protected us.'' ''Why?'' Not a scratch on their body and many such things have happened. So many of miracles that now miracle has lost it's meaning really. I told somebody that you better write down all these miracles because I don't have time so within one month he had it up to his head, above his head both the sides papers. He said, ''Mother, I don't know what to write what not to write so You better go through this.'' I said, ''I have no time, I don't have time so leave it, it's alright., let them enjoy the miracles.'' But there is this Divine power, Divine power of love. We need not believe. You're going to feel it today - tonight you're going to feel that power and once you feel it you have to just know how to use it. So you become collectively conscious and when you become collectively conscious, no fight [UNCLEAR], no; You don't fight, you don't react. There is no need to preach about peace at all; Also giving peace uh.. awards. People get peace awards - I've seen them and met them then how their horribly hot-tempers have reached, I don't know how they are saying that they have got peace - where? Peace should be within us and once this transformation takes place in human-beings, there will be no war, there will be no problem of any kind with another person, with another human-being. You enjoy each other. Now, as I told you we have 65 nations who are in sahaja yoga, who are working out sahaja yoga. Some nations are very powerful, say, Russia; It's very powerful. Thousands and thousands Russians - maybe because of oppression of the Communism, maybe they didn't know anything about religion and - I don't know how to explain but I was amazed. I went to Leningrad first where two thousand people inside because for the hall they have to pay - not Me but hall and there were two thousand people sitting inside, two thousand outside. I said, there was not [UNCLEAR] just My photographs were here and there so, then they said - they learnt something in Hindi also, said, ''Ma, what about us?'' I said, ''Alright, I will, I'll come back.'' After the program when I came they were all there sitting down, so I said, ''Alright, you come along tomorrow. We'll wait here, there's lot of open space, you don't have to book hall.'' So they came. They came, two thousand from inside came, outside two thousand came and two thousand their friends also and six thousand of them, they got their realization and they just settled down in it; they're not shifty. That's what I find. I don't know America even Canada. If your mind is shifty like that then you cannot grow, cannot mature. But they had this problem of oppression and no talk of religion, no talk about sex. They were so clean people and so deep I was surprised all of them settled down. There're thousands and thousands there now. There's a joke about it

Public Program, Canada, 1997-0622 Yogi: Can you turn the house lights off, please? Good evening everybody and welcome to this [UNCLEAR] of program on sahaja yoga, in the presence of Her Holiness, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. We shall now going to have, now have a brief introduction on the different aspects regarding sahaja yoga and basically it is going to be an introduction to ourselves that after Shri Mataji comes and She begins Her discourse, we are going to try to have before that a background in our minds uh.. as to what exactly should we expect, what exactly we would have then and try to on the context the meaning the things that She's going to tell you. Believe me, this evening is a [UNCLEAR] evening in the lives of all those of you who are going to see Her for the first time. To begin with, as we all know from different walks of life, through the ages the prophets and the seers, after whom the great religions have been established, have talked about an inner awakening, a search for the truth that exists within each one of us, the realization of the Divinity that exists within each one of us, the awakening of Divine potentials within each one of us and in doing so seek our integration, our union with the All-Pervading power of God. This has been called and termed through various terms, various modifications, various definitions and one of the commonest ones is yoga. Yoga actually means the union; The union of the Soul which is there within each one of us and that of the All-Pervading power of God and in the union between the Atma and the Parmatma or the individual Soul and the Supreme Soul. Shri Nanaka, who established or after whom came to be established the religion of Sikhism, said very clearly, ''Kaahe he mann khojat jaaye, sada niwasi, sada Alepa, tohe sung samaaye'' - Why is it that you go on searching for that external, without, when that which is the highest, is the most sublime is in fact within you? Christ spoke of the Kingdom of God saying that the Kingdom of God is within each one of us and we have to reach that Kingdom of God, that we have to be born again and upon which they [UNCLEAR] asked, one of the disciples that, ''Being born again, does it mean we have to enter our mother's womb?'' He said, ''No, the Kingdom of God which is within you has to be reached to a process and thus you have to take to a second birth.'' Lao tse spoke about the internal river that flows within each one of us; Confucius said about the same thing and thus you have all these people who have been through the centuries speaking about something within each one of us that has to be awakened. So what exactly were they speaking about? Were they speaking about different things - in fact, no. Socrates said, ''Know thyself.'' The essence of his philosophy was to know one's own self - meaning to be realized within one's own self. To have this union, to have this loss of attitude [UNCLEAR] between the self and the other person, to have, in other words, the complete union that was to have the yoga. Now, the instrument of this yoga resides within each one of us and it is possible for each one of us to achieve this state. At this point of time, permit me to emphasize, that what we are going to see just now, is nothing new, is not an invention, is not a new discovery. It has been something which has been spoken about again through the scriptures in the Bhagwad Gita, in the Bible, in the Granth Sahib. In the Koran it has been said time and again and many have tried to achieve this state and many did, however, their numbers have been far and [UNCLEAR] between because because on the Holy Spirit ladder, on the process of our evolutionary scale, the time had not come for everybody to achieve this state. As all of us know, human evolution has been progressing for millions of years from unicellular actually simple organisms to highly complex, highly evolved multi-cellular, multi-functional organism, which is the human-being who is at the apex, the epitome of evolution - we have evolved to this [UNCLEAR]. But the evolutionary process has now reached it's penultimate stage and now we have to cross over into that area whereby for the human level, from the consciousness at the human level we have to achieve that which is beyond, which is beyond the limited human consciousness. and thus the time has come which Shri Mataji prefers to call as the Blossom time where the Universal Self has to be reached by the individual Self. The individual consciousness has to be integrated with the Universal Unconscious. and that is where sahaja yoga comes into the picture. Sahaja yoga makes this process extremely simple and the awakening of this power within us takes place without any effort - absolutely effortlessly. Sahaja yoga, by definition, is a synthesis of two words - 'Saha' means with and 'Ja' means that which is born with. So sahaja means that which is born with and that is how the yoga takes place. Now let us see as to what is this instrument of integration that is present within each one of us. As you can see in this chart, we have about three channels flowing within each one of us. On the right hand side we shall see a yellow channel which is called as the Rajogun or is called as the Pingala Nadi. On the left hand side we have, what is called as the Ida Nadi or is the Moon channel and in between we have a channel which is called as the Sushumna Nadi or what is called as the Satwagun. Now these aspects have also been spoken about at length in different philosophies. The Chinese called it or have called it the 'Yin' and the 'Yang' or the power of the action or that was the passive power and that was the active power. In Ayurveda it has been called as the three different elements which govern the life of the individual. And here we see that this is precisely what they have been talking about that the right side, which corresponds to the Right Sympathetic system, is the channel whereby we are able to act - it gives us the power of action. On the left side which is, as you perhaps might be able to perceive, is the dark blue colored channel, which is the passive side, is the moon which we call it the channel of the moon and that is the side which gives us the power of desire. It is through this channel that we get the power of desiring things. So we can desire through our left side that is the left channel and we can act out those desires through the right side. The most important one, is the one in the center which is called as the Satwagun, which is the central path of evolution and within this central path are situated different centers, different energy centers, which in ancient Sanskrit text have been called as chakras meaning seats or seats of power. There are about seven main chakras in the body and we shall take up quick look and follow them and, of course, there is the Kundalini energy, a dormant energy lying within each one of us which is, in fact, the instrument of our union with the Divine, which actually brings about the union between the individual Self and the cosmic Self. It is extremely difficult to cover everything in a brief introductory talk but we shall try to understand as much as we can so that we can have, as I said before, a brief background as to what we shall be privileged to hear once Shri Mataji takes the floor. At the bottom we have a red colored chakra, which is called as the Mooladhara chakra; Now these chakras are situated within the Central Nervous system - they are extremely subtle, not perceivable to the human eye very visually, however, they have anatomical correspondences. For example, though we may not be able to see the three channels they correspond on the right side to the right sympathetic chain, the left side, the left side sympathetic chain and the Satwaguna or the middle channel corresponds to the Parasympathetic chain. Similarly, the seven energy centers correspond to seven anatomical plexuses within the human body. A plexus is nothing but an aggregate of nerves. So we start at the bottom, which is a red colored chakra, is called as the Mooladhara chakra, it is the seat of our innocence, it is the seat of our purity, it is the seat of our chastity. On the awakening of this chakra, through Kundalini awakening, these are the qualities that manifest within each one of us. And thus as we progress through these channels, through these chakras which [UNCLEAR -I'LL ENUMERATE?] very briefly what are the qualities of each one of these chakras and what are the benefits that we are going to get out of it because the bottom line is, okay if we do sahaja yog, if we take our Self-realization, what's in it for us? So as we shall advance, we shall realize that there is indeed a virtual storehouse of benefits for each one of us. Above the red colored chakra we see a triangular bone which corresponds with the gross sacrum bone at the bottom of the vertebral column. Here resides the Kundalini shakti, what is called in Sanskrit as the Kundalini shakti. It is a dormant, residual energy within each one of us and it is to the ascent of this energy that as we have said before, ''We'll seek our Self-realization.'' Above that we have a yellow colored chakra which is called as the Swadishthan chakra, is the second center. It is the center of creativity, of activity, of intellectual functions and it is through the exercise of this center that we are able to plan, we are able to think we are able to [UNCLEAR - ACT UP? ], we are able to conceptualize and naturally an over-functioning of this chakra can result in imbalances. Above that we have a green colored chakra, which is called as the Manipura chakra, which corresponds to the Aortic plexus in the human body and this chakra has qualities which give us a sense of proportionality, a sense of balance, a sense of satisfaction, a sense of integration, a sense of dharma as is said in the ancient Sanskrit text, which means a sense of duty - a duty that is sacred, a sense of duty that is there within each one of us. Duty as a citizen of this country, duty as a citizen of this, as a member of this social [UNCLEAR], duty as a husband, as a father, as a son, as a daughter, as a friend Within each of our interaction, within the social [UNCLEAR] we have certain duties to perform in an ideal way, in a perfect way and it is to this said that we get an ideal as to how these duties are to be performed. Above that we have the fourth chakra which is also the heart chakra. It has got two components - on the left side one and on the right side one as well as one in the center. Through this center we get the power of comfort, we get security and it is this center, which is in these modern times, completely in a state of imbalance because of a great amount of physical activity, emotional stress, insecurity through careers, through jobs, due to various other factors - economic, social, convenient just naming. So anything secretly results in an imbalance in this chakra and the raising of the Kundalini puts this chakra in a state of balance giving us the gift of security. Above this chakra we have the fifth chakra, which is called as the Vishudhhi chakra, which corresponds with the Cervical plexus within us. This is the center of communication, our inter-personal relationships - the way we relate to each other as family members, as friends, as individuals in a working environment, as, as individuals in this society, as citizens of the world. This is the center that brings about integration within human beings. Above this we have the sixth center, which is called as the Agnya chakra and it corresponds to the optic chiasma within the human physical body. As you know, within us in the brain there exists a place called as the optic chiasma where the optic nerves actually cross over each other and then go backwards. Now this was, somehow, known to the ancient sages, ancient prophets, who through their Divine realization, had realized and had actually seen this subtle system within each one of us and had already mentioned about it. So this is an extremely crucial center because through this center we get the power of thought, the power of thinking, the power of rationalization and the two channels of the left side and the right side, basically, cross over at this point and terminate into the two balloons of the ego, which is a yellow colored balloon on the left hand side of the head and into a blue colored balloon on the right hand side of the head which are the corresponding the balloons of the ego and the superego. Lastly, we come to the seventh center, which is the Sahasrara chakra, which is the seventh center which corresponds to the limbic system within the human brain. Now this is the center which contains the seats of all the previous six centers and when the Kundalini ascends through all the six centers and gets go up to then once again the Swadishthan chakra, then the second center, the Nabhi chakra or Manipur chakra, then the third one, the Heart chakra, which is the fourth one, the fifth chakra, which is the Vishhudhi chakra, the sixth one and, finally, the seventh chakra which is the Sahasrara chakra. Once the Kundalini comes out of the seventh chakra, it establishes a contact with this All-Pervading power of God and that is the state which has been described in all the Scriptures as the state of Self- realization. This is the state wherein an individual becomes thoughtlessly aware - is not that is not aware of his surroundings but he is in a state of thoughtlessness and very difficult as it might perhaps be to believe this state is very easily achievable. because as most of us know that when a thought process starts, it starts very slowly, achieves a crest - achieves a peak level of activity - and then it gradually falls down and then the second level starts, the second thought starts and throughout our lifetimes we spend consciously jumping from one thought to the other, to the next and to the next. However, there is a time between two successive thoughts when there is an infinitesimally small space of time wherein you are actually thoughtless but we are not aware of it because it is going on at such a fantastic speed. Through the process of Kundalini awakening we can stay between that [UNCLEAR - IN THAT OR INACTIVE?] period, between two thoughts and be actually thoughtless. This is the state known as the Nirvicharita, which means the state of thoughtlessness which has been described again and again through the scriptures. My dear friends, what I would like to emphasize is, that sahaja yoga brings about this entire process very spontaneously, very effortlessly without involving number one any form of payment of any sort. You don't have to pay a single penny to get your Self-realization because as Shri Mataji says, ''You cannot buy your Self-realization and God, most importantly doesn't understand money.'' To achieve this state without any effort, without the chanting of any hymns, any mantras, going through any long procedures of fasting, physical exercise, any physical [UNCLEAR], any conditionings, you don't have to give up any thing, you don't have to take any preset conditions It is extremely simple, it is extremely spontaneous, it is extremely effortless, it is extremely effective - it works. Sahaja yoga is today being practiced in more than 65 countries of the world including the former Soviet Union and the Soviet Republics we have hundreds of thousands of yogis all over the world practicing sahaja yoga. Now, what are the benefits of sahaja yoga? Briefly as we have seen, each one of these chakras, have their special qualities and as the Kundalini energy, which is like a Mother, which is our spiritual Mother waiting to give us this great opportunity to be born again, She nourishes these chakras just like a mother nourishes her own offspring. And thus through the process of Kundalini awakening, the qualities of each one of these chakras starts manifesting through each one of us and thus we can become and we have such people all over the world today who are beautiful citizens beautiful individuals leading extremely moral, chaste, beautiful lives serving a great function not only to themselves but to the societies and to the nations of which they are the citizens. These are the benefits of sahaja yoga in a nutshell. Apart from this you also enjoy very good physical health, psychological health, emotional health and mental health because sahaja yoga helps you to achieve a state of an integrated personality where there is no conflict within yourself and thus you don't have conflicts with others. You don't enter into conflicts with others because you are established in a state of peace and when you are at peace with yourself, you don't feel like getting into a state of disturbance, getting into a state of war even at a mental, at an intellectual level with others. Let us now try to understand as to who is the person behind this great Spiritual happening. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi was born in India in 1923 in a Christian family. She took part to, She was the child of extremely patriotic parents, very learned, highly intelligent, very well educated - Her father could speak so many languages fluently, Her mother was a Masters [UNCLEAR - OLDER, VERY OLDER?] in Mathematics. Into such uh.., such a intellectual, highly gifted and patriotic family She was born in 1923. As most of Marathi might be knowing, those were the years when India was trying to get it's independence. and Her parents were deeply involved with the [UNCLEAR]. So at the very young age She got Herself involved in the Indian freedom movement. She even stayed with Mahatma Gandhiji in his ashram at Wardha and at Sabarmati in India and after Indian independence during those years She was married to a gentleman who later served extremely important post within the Indian government and later on in the United Nations. She was married to Dr. C.P. Srivastava, who was the personal secretary to the late Prime Minister of India, Shri Lala Bahadur Shastri and thereafter Dr. Srivastava, Her husband, was for six consecutive terms the elected Secretary General of the International Maritime Organization which is a very important division of the United Nations. The point that one tries to make is, Shri Mataji has been a married person, She has two daughters, She has grandchildren and they're married so She is an absolute householder, an absolutely seemingly, an absolutely apparently and absolutely on the base of it a very domestic person like you and me and each one of us in this auditorium and beyond. She has completely played Her role as a daughter, as a citizen, as a wife, as a Mother, as a grandmother to each one with absolute perfection to such an extent that all of them even today are extremely devoted to Her. She enjoys a completely blissful married life with Her family but beyond this She is the spiritual guide to millions of Her devotees around the world and She has established this movement of sahaja yoga at the same time keeping Her connection, Her duties towards Her family which brings us to the most important point and the most wonderful point about sahaja yoga, which is that you can have a state of God realization, you can continue to have your state of Zen, your state of thoughtless awareness without having to divorce yourself from any or all of your duties as a normal citizen, as a normal individual. We can continue with our lives, with our careers, with our married life, with our social lives and yet enjoy the state of bliss and happiness. The reason why one tries to emphasize this point has been, is because till sahaja yoga was brought into effect people could achieve the state of Self- realization. However it took decades and decades of, sometimes fruitless perseverance, fruitless effort to achieve this state. People had to leave their jobs, they had to leave their families, go and stay and meditate for years together just to achieve that fraction of this wonderful state. But after 1970, after Shri Mataji established sahaja yoga, this is the blossom time when not one, not two but people in the thousands can achieve this state because human evolution has reached a point now where they can get this wonderful happening within each one of us. I shall now, [UNCLEAR] This is the song is in the Hindi language and the words [MUSIC] [SONG] - Awaaz uthayeinge, hum saaz bajayeinge, hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge Awaaz uthayeinge, hum saaz bajayeinge, hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, lala La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, lala Chaitanya bahe jahan tak Maa, Hai roop Tumhara hi Hai nirakaar phir bhi, hai swaroop Tumhara hi Chaitanya bahe jahan tak Maa, Hai roop Tumhara hi Hai nirakaar phir bhi, hai swaroop Tumhara hi Yeh shakti roop Tumhara, hum sab ko dikhayeinge hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge Awaaz uthayeinge, hum saaz bajayeinge, hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, lala La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, lala Anmol khazana ban gaya, dil Teri mohabbat se Parivartit harshit ban gaya, yeh Teri ulfat se Anmol khazana ban gaya, dil Teri mohabbat se Parivartit harshit ban gaya, yeh Teri ulfat se Pratibha ki Teri baatein, hum sab ko sunayeinge hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge. Awaaz uthayeinge, hum saaz bajayeinge, hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge. hai Mata mahaan apni, yeh geet sunayeinge. [CLAPPING] In this next song is about Kundalini; It's called 'Kundalini rise' O, Nirmala Mata, Mata O, Nirmala Mata, Mata You are my life, You are my life, You are my heart You are my heart, You are my life, So please, Kundalini rise Kundalini rise, Shri Ganesha, Kundalini rise, Nirmala Mata, Kundalini rise, Saraswati, Kundalini rise, Adishakti, Kundalini rise, Mahalaxmi, Kundalini rise, [UNCLEAR] Mata, Kundalini rise, Adiguru, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise Kundalini rise, O, Nirmala Mata, Mata O, Nirmala Mata, Mata You are my life, You are my life, You are my heart, You are my heart, You are my life, So please, Kundalini rise Kundalini rise, Durga Mata, Kundalini rise Nirmala Mata, Kundalini rise, Jagdamba, Kundalini rise Adishakti, Kundalini rise Vishnumaya, Kundalini rise Mahalaxmi, Kundalini rise, Nirmala Mata Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise O, Nirmala Mata, Mata O, Nirmala Mata, Mata You are my life, You are my life, You are my heart, You are my heart, You are my life, So please, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise, Nirmala Mata, Kundalini rise, Bhagawati, Kundalini rise, Adishakti, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise, Kundalini, Kundalini rise, Nirmala Mata, Kundalini rise, Bhagawati, Kundalini rise, Shri Mataji, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise, Kundalini rise, [CLAPPING] Saat janam jo, punya kiye hain, safal hue saare Saat janam jo, punya kiye hain, safal hue saare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la Dukhiyon ka dukh door kare Tu, Ma Nirmala Devi Dukhiyon ka dukh door kare Tu, Ma Nirmala Devi Humsabka uddhaar kare Tu, shaanti sukh Devi Humsabka uddhaar kare Tu, shaanti sukh Devi Sab dharmon ko chod charan mein, Sab dharmon ko chod charan mein, aaye sharan Tihaare aaye sharan Tihaare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la - Jai Mataji La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la Aham bhao ko chod Tumhare, sharan charan aata Aham bhao ko chod Tumhare, sharan charan aata Bhavasagar ke dukh sukh se Ma, poorna paar utaar Bhavasagar ke dukh sukh se Ma, poorna paar utaar Na aandhi ho na ho toofaan, Na aandhi ho na ho toofaan, sankat tal hi jaaye Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la, Jai Mataji La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la Dekar mangal aashirwad Tu, paavan mujhe banaa Dekar mangal aashirwad Tu, paavan mujhe banaa Janam maran ke phere mit gaye Janam maran ke phere mit gaye, khul gaye bhAgnya hamare khul gaye bhAgnya hamare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la La la la, la la la, la la la la lala la Saat janam jo, punya kiye hain, safal hue saare Saat janam jo, punya kiye hain, safal hue saare Issiliye Mataji humko darshan hue Tumhare darshan hue Tumhare darshan hue Tumhare [CLAPPING] Shri Mataji has arrived [CLAPPING] [UNCLEAR] Shri Mataji. She has arrived [CLAPPING] [CLAPPING] Swagat aagat swagatam Swagat aagat swagatam, Hum sab karte swagatam Hum sab karte swagatam Aaj hamare beech padhaare Shri Mataji Aap hain taare Jhoom jhoom ke, jhoom jhoom ke karte hain gaan Jhoom jhoom ke, jhoom jhoom ke karte hain gaan Swagat aagat swagatam, Swagat aagat swagatam, Nirmal Mataji ke [UNCLEAR -SWAGATAM?] Nirmal Mataji ke darshan paakar Karte hain swagat dil se gaakar Karte hain swagat dil se gaakar Prem phoolon ki maala pehnate hain Prem phoolon ki maala pehnate hain Swagat aagat swagatam, Swagat aagat swagatam, Hum sab karte swagatam Hum sab karte swagatam Nirmal Maa se viniti hamaari Nirmal Maa se viniti hamaari Jeewan sukh se kar dein bhaari Jeewan sukh se kar dein bhaari Anand, prem, shaanti sada hi rahe Anand, prem, shaanti sada hi rahe Swagat aagat swagatam, Swagat aagat swagatam, Hum sab karte swagatam Hum sab karte swagatam Aaj hamare beech padhaare Shri Mataji Aap hain taare Jhoom jhoom ke, jhoom jhoom ke karte hain gaan Jhoom jhoom ke, jhoom jhoom ke karte hain gaan Swagat aagat swagatam, Swagat aagat swagatam, Swagat aagat swagatam, [MUSIC] [INAUDIBLE] Mike le aao. [INAUDIBLE] Mike nahin hai Hai? - Is it alright? - Haan - Can you all hear Me, please? - Yes, Mother. - Thank You. Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of Absolute Truth. At the very outset we have to know what is Absolute Truth is. Whatever I'm going to tell you today, please do not accept it. and do not take it for granted because this blind faith has created so many problems as you know. In every country we have people who have such tremendous blind faith that for ages together, for generations together they have been blinded where they are born, what is their community, what are their parents, what nationality they belong to, what race they belong to. All these have created tremendous conditioning in our mind. and we are bound - we are not free - we are bound, bound by all these ideologies and everything that we have been hearing, which we have been reading about, which we have been knowing. So, for people who are seekers of Absolute Truth must understand that so far have not found out Absolute Truth. Now, what is the Absolute Truth? Absolute Truth has been told by all the great Incarnations and all the saints of the world is that, ''That truth lies within you and that you are not this body, this mind, not this aspirations and ego and conditionings and also emotions but you are the pure Spirit.'' This is the state you have to achieve Now these modern times, I call them as Blossom Times - they are special times all being already predicted in so many scriptures, especially, in a scripture called as Naadi Granth written by the pioneer of our astrology, Bhrigumuni. He said, ''At these times people who are seeking reality or truth in the hills and dales and caves will find the truth.'' Of course, as you know that many people are just get enamored by things which are hellish, which are nothing to do with truth. Where you must have heard of so many people committing suicide, going into big violence, killing others all sorts of things which are hellish and they [UNCLEAR] that they are seekers of truth - they cannot. Truth means tranquility, peace. It means also joy. Have you heard of every saint who started a tirade against killing others? Unless and until they were very much attacked, like at the time of Islam, they did not take to it because they do not feel safe and protected. But the problem with all of them was that, they were not connected to the Divine power of truth, to Divinity. In their thought they thought they belonged to some sort of a community, to some sort of a and that is the point why they lost and we are surprised why should they suffer. Now the time has come, special time as I told you, blossom time, where many flowers are born and they have to achieve their complete maturity - become fruits. This maturity will be possible if you have a steady mind. They start doing guru shopping, going from one to another. If, say, a plant is removed all the time from one place to another, how will it improve? You don't have to pay for it. Also this is another very great objection for Me that you don't have to pay for sahaja yog. They think that if you have paid then you have to do less work - you have paid for it. Secondly, perhaps, maybe, they might think, '' Oh, what is the credibility?'' Now, something that cannot be sold, which is invaluable, we have to think about Christ, how much did we pay? Think of anybody who was an Incarnation; How can you pay for your Self-realization? How much do we pay for this Mother Earth which produces beautiful flowers for us? We don't pay Her anything. In the same way you cannot pay for this living process of your evolution which is a last breakthrough, is the last breakthrough of your evolution. So firstly we must understand what this can [UNCLEAR] in our way, in our realization. If I say, this mind, this human mind is the most artificially created obstacle by us. Through our ego, through our conditionings we have created this mind which stops us from entering into that realm of peace, tranquility, of Divine love. How to cross this mind has been a problem for all the seekers because it bombards you with thoughts, all the time it's bombarding your thoughts - thoughts are coming from the future or from the past and we are not in the present. Just now if I say, you be in the present, you cannot be. You'll be immediately thrown to the future side or to the past. These two sides all the time keeps us tossing. The thought comes like this and falls down, another thought comes and falls down and we are dancing on the cusp of all these thoughts all the time and that's why we are restless, that's why we are upset, that's why we have so many problems of our mind itself. Apart from that we have so many other problems - many diseases are there which we do not know how to cure and if you try to cure one disease, you get another one. It's a very funny thing that if you try to cure, say schizophrenia you get another disease which is because of Dopamine or what ever is, is called as - you get another disease which is more serious when your hands, your feet all start shaking. So now, between these two how are we in the center? For that, our Creator has created this beautiful subtle system within us - whether you believe it or not, it exists. When you are suffering from [UNCLEAR - BODY'S?] diseases and if your power, residual power, which we call as Kundalini, who is your mother, your individual mother - all of them have your individual mother. she knows everything for you, she knows what are your aspirations, she knows what mistakes you have committed, she knows where you have been - it's all recorded but she's extremely anxious to give you this second birth and for that spontaneously she rises, rises and pierces through this fontanel bone area and connects you with this All-Pervading power of Divine love. We have heard about it, we have studied about it, we call it by different names for disciple of Christ call it, 'The two breeds of the Holy Ghost,' very clearly. Then in the Sanskrit language it's called as Paramchaitanya. Also in the Bible is described as the All-Pervading power of Divine love and also Guru Nanak and all these saints have described it as 'Alakh Niranjan' It's a beautiful world 'Alakh' you can see that. Niranjan means it is without any amusement That's the one is the Spirit of the Holy Ghost, we can say, the power of the Holy Ghost which is around us and when the Spirit comes and it is enlightened, we can feel that power flowing through our Central Nervous system. So there's a word called as 'Budh' from where 'Buddha' has come - meaning to know 'Bodh' means to know on your finger-tips, to know on your Central Nervous system. It is not just lecture, it's not just creating a sign of a red, 'O, I'm a Christian, I'm a Hindu or I'm a Muslim or I'm a twice born.' A person who is a twice born, is a person who is a realized soul whose Spirit is emitting vibrations on the nerves through the Central Nervous system. It's so close to Science, it's so simple with the Science and when this starts happening then you get this [UNCLEAR], you can call this Self-knowledge. Also in Sanskrit there is one word called Veda from where the Vedas are written. Ved means Vid, Vid means to know on Central Nervous system First stanza of Vedas is that, 'If reading all this, if you do not get it vid of it, means it's known on the Central Nervous system, it's all useless. Shankaracharya has said very clearly, ''Oh Mother! take me out of this webs of words.'' He called it 'Shabdjalam' - out of this webs of words. You go on reading, reading, reading and Kabira has said, ''Padhi, padhi pandit murakh bhaye.'' - by reading too much even the learned becomes stupid. I used to think, 'What is he talking about, what does that mean? If people read, then how can they become stupid?'' Because others go into your head. It's the knowledge of the other people in your head - their own brain is finished. Well, I've met many like that over read people. They just go on talking, talking, talking. God knows what they are talking - incoherently sometimes. So whatever these people have said, I have seen and I've seen in people happen but I've seen something more in these modern times that spontaneously thousands of people get realization It's an enmasse happening - it's not one person giving realization to one person. It's said in the twelfth century [ie 1200s] in India - there was one, we can call them as one type of seeking. Once somewhere seeking the right side someone left one particular center and they were called as 'Avadhutas' - Machindernath and Gorakhnath, two great people uh…, saints, you see. They went up to Burma, they went to even Russia, they went to uh.. Volimia and these people talked about kundalini. So they know about Kundalini but they don't know how to awaken it and they have run away, these people have run away to Bolivia and all that so it's [UNCLEAR] the knowledge is still [UNCLEAR] in Bolivia [UNCLEAR - SO HIGH UP?]. You can imagine, this knowledge has been there for thousands and thousands of years but has been finished by people who are supposed to be uh.. people in charge of religion; You call them 'Dharma Martand.' They would not accept, they said, 'No, this all nonsense. Even in twelfth century [ie 1200s] when Gyanadeva, such a great poet, wrote about it in the sixth chapter of his book, they said, ''This is something is not to be seen 'nishiddh' - you're not to read this,'' because they didn't want people to have this true knowledge because if they have true knowledge the existence of all these type of people will disappear and then how will they manage because they are money-making or power-oriented, so how will they gain? This was the purpose of deleting all this knowledge completely from human existence. Now, when I start talking about it, people say it's a cult. I don't know how it is a cult when it has been described [UNCLEAR] It has to be experienced, works no doubt. So, the first of all, as I told you, that you get rid of your sicknesses, your illnesses, your physical illnesses. Doctors are easiest to come to sahaja yog because they see the difference between the treatment of sahaja yoga and treatment of anything. We have definitely cured cancer, definitely cured cancer, definitely cured also AIDS, no doubt but the problem with AIDS people are they're thinking they are martyrs and they're formed in groups of people that they are great martyrs, you know such a martyr - now how can you cure them? They are under a wrong impression that they are dying, like martyrs they're dying; They have flags and they have big, big [UNCLEAR] everywhere - what can you do to such people? But it can cure most of your illnesses - most. I wouldn't say guarantee because maybe, some may not receive it This is the first thing that happens that physically you get cured. Mentally - mentally also many diseases have been cured. We have more mental diseases than we have physical. They're saying, in America very soon there will be 65% people suffering from Schizophrenia - can you imagine? What are we going to do in that country 65% people are suffering but when I tell them they don't want to believe. Why not? Because you don't have to pay anything, you are not given any medicine - nothing. You are cured through sahaja yoga treatment. Why not go and see that, see for yourself. But the whole medical science depends on how much money you earn naturally; Because we don't earn any money so people don't like us. It's very funny thing but it is happening. Then, all your emotional problems are solved. We have had marriages after marriages every year I don't know how many are married and every year at least, hundred are married in India, also in Russia. About 1% people get divorced - that we don't mind. Divorce is important if it is absolutely [UNCLEAR] If it's troubles each other, it's alright. But only 1%, at the most, people take divorce and they have children who are extremely talented, beautiful, loving, respecting - they are out of the blue beautiful children and at a very young age they prosper so we started school in Dharamshala. There's a place in India where it is nice and good and normally in India people have good schools away from the madding crowd of the cities and villages. You'll be amazed to know, that in the Matriculation exam that we have, which is a very difficult exam, I think, compared to any other country, in India, the first person, first of first in the whole of India, was from our school and all the children who appeared for that exam, got first class. To get first class in that examination, is very difficult because it's not an ordinary type of course and imagine, this girl got first class first in the whole of the country - how? And she is American, both parents are American. It's very surprising how it has happened but because your creativity improves, your retention power improves, your memory improves and your attention itself becomes so pure that you don't go on seeing things which are useless, you don't waste your energy, you only see things which give you joy. Your attention is so, so sharp and so loving; It is attention that works everything. Imagine this attention which is hovering here and there and wasting it's energy and all the energy of the body - this attention becomes so sharp and so loving that it goes to places wherever it is required. Because it's Absolute knowledge, the attention itself becomes Absolute. Whatever your attention will tell, is the fact. Now how do you get the attention on your finger-tips [UNCLEAR]? You can feel on your finger-tips which center is out of caring, which is in jeopardy. You immediately feel on your finger-tips, you yourself become the detector [PLEASE THERE - AFTER THE LECTURE, ALRIGHT?] So, you yourself automatically know what's the matter with you, on your finger-tips - you have Self-knowledge. Now you don't get worried and upset, you take sahaja yoga treatment, you're alright, your chakras are alright, are cleaned out, centers are perfect. Then you can also feel others so you can know what's wrong with the others. Now there are many I know here in this country also in America all over because you're well off people in search of money come here as big gurus and I don't know what they call themselves. Some of them just have changed and wearing saffron clothes they have no [UNCLEAR] about them and they say say we're [UNCLEAR], we're this, we're that and people are so simple they believe them. And so many have minted money. There's one in now in America And he gives some sort of a pendulum to move then you can move the pendulum [UNCLEAR] But what upset Me was that, so many people have sold their houses, taken out their children from school and are suffering so much, so much money [UNCLEAR] So, one has to understand that Absolute truth is to be felt on your Central Nervous system; It is an experience, it is a becoming, you become something. For example, in Sanskrit a realized soul is called as 'Dwijah' - born again and a bird is also called a dwijah because bird is an egg and then it becomes a bird. In the same way we are in the web of our conditioning and ego but this egg opens up and we grow our wings and complete freedom, complete freedom because you're by freedom you never do wrong things, you'll not do anything that is destructive to yourself and to others. I mean, it's something they talk of religion as if you have become religion or you are beyond religion, you don't need religion - you are religion. That's the state you get and is already described in so many books but we don't understand because it's said sometimes it is in poetry, sometimes in abstract way but you become religious. So first state comes to us when these thoughts are all hovering on our head, when the Kundalini rises She elongates this these thoughts and in between is the bliss of peace where you don't think. In Sanskrit it is called 'Nirvichara Samadhi' We can call it thoughtless awareness - you're completely aware but you are thoughtless, without any thoughts. If you want to think, you can think but if you don't want to think, you need not think. It is fantastical - you become so peaceful that you do not react - reaction goes away That's how family life, national life - everything can be improved. And when you see something, see I see this beautiful carpet here so I don't think, I just watch because if I start thinking, I'll think how much it is, who's it is - if it is mine, I'll be worried it - I should ensure it and all sorts of things. But if there is no thought, I just watch and the joy of the artist which is in this carpet starts in an abstract way starts flowing and starts [UNCLEAR] Me. Really beautiful things when you see, don't have to think and the whole thing becomes like a peace giving apparatus. Feel so tranquil and so peace and this modern disease that has come of stress and strain disappears. Absolutely disappears. There is no stress, there is no strain because this has opened now, everything passes out. But at the same time the problem gets solved - how? Supposing you are standing in the water, then you are afraid of the waves that are rising but supposing that you get into the boat, then you watch. You watch and enjoy also. Enjoying [UNCLEAR] waves don't trouble. Then what do you do? Supposing you learn swimming. Swim, go down and save many others who are getting completely lost. This happens to you as a matter of your powers - you become that, you become that powerful and the second great thing that happens is that you become collectively conscious - samoohik. Like on the fingers [UNCLEAR] you can feel others. Who is the other then? You become part and parcel of the whole; The microcosm becomes the macrocosm. It is said, said but now you become again part and parcel of the whole and the whole looks after you. It gives you such a protection that you are amazed. Recently there was an accident in Philadelphia - [UNCLEAR - FOUR?] sahaja yogis [UNCLEAR] were travelling and the car was crashed. They came back to New York with tears in their eyes, I said, ''What happened?'' ''Mother, You have protected us.'' ''Why?'' Not a scratch on their body and many such things have happened. So many of miracles that now miracle has lost it's meaning really. I told somebody that you better write down all these miracles because I don't have time so within one month he had it up to his head, above his head both the sides papers. He said, ''Mother, I don't know what to write what not to write so You better go through this.'' I said, ''I have no time, I don't have time so leave it, it's alright., let them enjoy the miracles.'' But there is this Divine power, Divine power of love. We need not believe. You're going to feel it today - tonight you're going to feel that power and once you feel it you have to just know how to use it. So you become collectively conscious and when you become collectively conscious, no fight [UNCLEAR], no; You don't fight, you don't react. There is no need to preach about peace at all; Also giving peace uh.. awards. People get peace awards - I've seen them and met them then how their horribly hot-tempers have reached, I don't know how they are saying that they have got peace - where? Peace should be within us and once this transformation takes place in human-beings, there will be no war, there will be no problem of any kind with another person, with another human-being. You enjoy each other. Now, as I told you we have 65 nations who are in sahaja yoga, who are working out sahaja yoga. Some nations are very powerful, say, Russia; It's very powerful. Thousands and thousands Russians - maybe because of oppression of the Communism, maybe they didn't know anything about religion and - I don't know how to explain but I was amazed. I went to Leningrad first where two thousand people inside because for the hall they have to pay - not Me but hall and there were two thousand people sitting inside, two thousand outside. I said, there was not [UNCLEAR] just My photographs were here and there so, then they said - they learnt something in Hindi also, said, ''Ma, what about us?'' I said, ''Alright, I will, I'll come back.'' After the program when I came they were all there sitting down, so I said, ''Alright, you come along tomorrow. We'll wait here, there's lot of open space, you don't have to book hall.'' So they came. They came, two thousand from inside came, outside two thousand came and two thousand their friends also and six thousand of them, they got their realization and they just settled down in it; they're not shifty. That's what I find. I don't know America even Canada. If your mind is shifty like that then you cannot grow, cannot mature. But they had this problem of oppression and no talk of religion, no talk about sex. They were so clean people and so deep I was surprised all of them settled down. There're thousands and thousands there now. There's a joke about it

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7/20/1997

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Guru Puja: A Guru Should Be Humble And Wise

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Guru Puja. Cabella Ligure (Italy), 20 July 1997. Today’s puja is very important for us. You all have got your self realisation, you have all the knowledge that is necessary to give realisation to others. You have to know what you have already, that’s very important, because if you do not try your hand and if you do not try to give realisation to others, firstly you will have no faith in yourself - you’ll have no self esteem also. The second part is that, you try giving vibrations to other persons but don't get involved with that person. I've seen some people get too much involved . If they give realisation to one person they think they have done a great job and they start working on that person, his family, his relations and this. So, so far as you must have learnt, that one may be related, one may be closer to one person but not necessarily he will have that much of a chance of self realisation. Only way to grow is to be collective, there's no other way out. If people think that by staying away from ashrams, alone living somewhere, they will achieve much, that's not the way Sahaja Yoga is meant. Formerly people used to go to Himalayas and most of them were separated and only one or two persons were chosen for spiritual growth. Here it is not a question of spiritual growth, it is a question of your collectivity growing in you. That is how you become a person who is collective, who enjoys collective, who works on collective and lives with collective. Such a person develops new kinds of powers and these powers are such that they are very subtle but they penetrate into any molecule, atom or human beings anywhere. And their penetration is only possible if you have a temperament which is collective. Without being fully collective you cannot achieve that height, which is very necessary today for Sahaja Yoga. As you know there are problems and problems all over, as if we feel that the world is going to sink. Especially when I went to America I felt that “my goodness this is a hell that they have created here, it's just a hell”. Because they have no dharma -they don't believe in any dharma. Completely they worship adharma - and this kind of climate is flowing all over. All over the world you get reactions of American adharmic life - and people think there is nothing wrong in it. Whatever you tell them they will not believe. Nor will they think there is any worth in it. But they don't see the destruction from the very basis of their life, their families, their societies, the whole country I feel is filled with such ugly type of adharmic nature that one cannot even imagine how such ideas came into their heads. And these ideas, I need not tell you, you know them very well. But if you have to save your children you have to be an ideal guru yourself. If you just talk of Sahaja Yoga and if you try to assume that you are a Sahaja Yogi, also you try to propagate Sahaja Yoga without all these powers being awakened in you, it would be a failure. So how to develop these powers within us we should see? It's rather embarassing for me to tell you how you have to behave towards your guru. I think people have told you. But naturally, spontaneously, as soon as you get your realisation and grow in it - naturally you develop a very humble attitude. Also an attitude through which you achieve lots of qualities of your guru. Now supposing the guru is at a particular height, and if you try to go on to the same height, nothing will move towards you. So you must sit at a place which is much lower than the guru's. Some people take too much advantage of my good nature, I should say. And so many people have pointed out to me that you must correct these people, they talk to you at equal level and all that. I said “they will learn a lesson, they will learn a lesson” but sometimes it doesn't work out and they start talking in the same manner as if they are talking to your friend, or to your equal. First is complete humility. You have to be a humble person, extremely humble. Now you check on that, when you talk to others, are you humble? When you think of others, are you humble? When you look after your wife and children, are you humble? That's a very important thing for every person who thinks he is a guru. Humility is the first quality, or I should say, the ocean into which you must jump. Some people think that if you are humble, Mother, then people will take advantage of you . Nobody can take advantage of you because you have to remember another point, that you are protected all the time, looked after by Paramchaitanya. I know you know that, but how many really believe that there is Paramchaitanya with us? If you really believe that there is Paramchaitanya, then you don't get frightened, you don't get worried. You are not subjected to all kinds of nonsensical ideas also. But if you think that you are not protected, what will happen? How will things happen? Then Paramchaitanya leaves you alone. You have to see the whole drama. How Paramchaitanya works out - how it works out, how you are behaving. Supposing you are not in a proper shape and you try to show off too much. Then what happens? Then you'll get the reward for it, not that I do anything, but it's the Paramchaitanya which will teach you a lesson that you will remember, that you should have been a little different from what you have been. After all we have to know why we have come to Sahaja Yoga. To begin at the root of it, we have come to Sahaja Yoga because we wanted to know the absolute truth. And this absolute truth has been now known to you through your vibrations. You know it through your vibrations, what is the absolute truth. And you should work everything on that line, that absolute truth, whatever you feel on your vibrations you have to follow. But unfortunately I have seen many people who think that their vibrations are all right - they are all right, and whatever they are receiving on their vibrations is first class. Now how to correct that point is very difficult - it comes from ego. When you have ego you can never find anything wrong with you. And even if the vibrations are telling you something it might be somebody else who's telling you something, because you are not there, your ego is there, and your ego is just spoiling you and teaching you things which normally you would see clearly that - “I`m doing something wrong, I should not have done it”. In this process of correction and improvement, when you indulge you should see, are you getting subtler or grosser? That is the best way to judge. Now I have seen people who go on judging all these small things on vibrations, like whether these vibrations are alright or not in this tree, or on these flowers or on this land, all these material things they want to see the vibrations. But for what are you seeing the vibrations? You are seeing vibrations because of some sort of a material gain. You think that if you check the vibrations and the vibrations are alright, then you are quite safe. You'll not lose this, you'll not lose that. It's not true. Because vibrations are not meant to judge all these worldly things and worldly matters. It's absolutely cheapening the vibrations. You should not cheapen them, because vibrations can suggest things which may be detrimental to your growth, very much. Once I wanted somebody to go somewhere and so he said, “I didn`t go Mother” I said “Why? “because I saw the vibrations were very bad”. I said “that's why I asked you to go! If the vibrations were good, what was your use going there? I said “The reason I asked you to go there was so that you could help, but before that you judged yourself, judged your vibrations and then you didn't want to go.” So what happens, we want to have an easy cosy life and all our problems must be solved by Sahaja Yoga otherwise we think Sahaja Yoga is of no use. Whatever is our desire must be fulfilled. So now the desires are mostly personal, my child is not well, so the child should be alright. My husband is misbehaving, so the husband should be alright, or I have no house, I must get a house. See how we are moving our mind. It's still on a very consumer society, as they call it. We are all the time thinking now, I should have a son now instead of a girl, and then you get a son and you'll blame Sahaja Yoga for that. Anything that according to your desire doesn't work out, then you think that it is Sahaja Yoga that has done the harm and you are suffering because of Sahaja Yoga - or this faith in Sahaja Yoga gets a little moving, or we can say in a way, it's not that deep. But if you are deeply embedded in Sahaja Yoga then what happens? What may come, I will be a Sahaja Yogi! Supposing somebody dies. Normally in Sahaja Yoga it is difficult for people to die also, I must tell you. Even if they want to die they can't die. It's the Paramchaitanya which decides for you. But supposing you take up a position like that, still you must know that that wish may not be fulfilled, and if that is not fulfilled then you feel disturbed and you think, what's wrong? But your wish is not the wish of God Almighty. While Paramchaitanya is the wish of God Almighty. Now for example, I went to America, take it like this, and America attacked me, a little bit it troubled me, for all these days I’m suffering, so called, and I've had pain and I've had all kinds of things. But that I had to do because now the American Sahaja Yogis will realise how much one has to pay to make this dumb head of Americans to rise. How stupid they are and how foolish they are, who are enamoured by people who are taking money . So many people came to me and told me “Mother if you start saying that ‘this I can give for $300.--’, you'll get thousands and thousands of disciples of yours”. I said “They'll not be my disciples. If they come for money, thinking that because I'm taking money, it is worth this or this, that means that they are absolutely stupid”. Sahaja Yoga, you cannot get it by money. This is the first principle they don't understand, most of them - most of them don't understand that you can get self realisation without paying any money. There were some Gujurati rich people in New Jersey and they asked questions to Sahaja Yogis that “how is it possible to get is so easily? It's not possible because it's a very difficult thing. All the Shastras have said, everybody has said, it is very difficult to get your realisation - alright, if so, how is it you're giving it so easily, why?” Nobody knew how to answer these people. You should have said like this, “Alright, it is difficult, it's very difficult, and you cannot give mass - true. But if somebody's doing it, then you have to think about it, how somebody's doing it?”. So these kind of stupid questions are there and still if they go on, you have to really tell them in a very humble way, “Sir, one has to be WORTHY also!”. So they will run after people who are just making money out of them, making a fool of them - and they boast,“we have 3 gurus”, somebody says “we have 7 gurus” - and I wondered what must be their condition. So the people who are extremely stupid, in Sanskrit they're called “Muhr”, people who are brainless, cannot get their realisation. So give them up. If they are arguing with you, you just give them up. It's not their right to argue with you. Their right is to get realisation, but not their right to argue with you, ask you foolish questions and stupid questions. But you should always remember that with that humility, you must have your dignity intact because you are a guru. Once you know you are a guru one thing should be there - that you will not behave like a joker all the time. Your behaviour will be dignified. At the same time it will be a very pleasant face or a pleasant personality. It won't be an annoying type. Your personality itself will suggest that there is something special about you. Now how to develop that kind of a personality? The biggest problem in the West is ego and the biggest problem in the East is superego. Now this ego business I don't know from where it has come. In all walks of life they show how egotistical they are. For example, I went to America and I was surprised that there is a racial problem and the blacks are treated in a different manner and the whites in a different manner. I mean, colour is given by God, and somebody has to be black and white. If everybody looked the same it would look like a regiment. There should be some variety. There should be some change in the face and also in the expression. One has to be a person carrying better or different expressions otherwise you will be bored with such a world where everyone looks the same, just the same. But so much of racialism there that I was surprised that how it has worked into human mind. So as a guru you must develop a complete detest for racialism, complete detest. It's very easy to understand that anybody who has a fair complexion could be the cruellest man or the cruellest woman, and could be the cruellest mother also and the one who is black could be very kind and generous. It doesn't go with the colour. Temperament doesn't go with colour. But because the blacks have been ill treated so much that they react, and they react naturally sometimes in such a manner that it is very crude and very cruel. But this kind of attention, this kind of a, we can say, wrong type of attitude towards human beings, even towards animals, they won’t bear it . So towards human beings, to have such an attitude, itself shows that you are not worthy of Sahaja Yoga at all. So anyone of you, who has such a feeling that somebody's black and somebody's white, cannot be a guru in Sahaja Yoga. Then in India we have caste system. Equally bad and horrible. It has no sense in it, no basis whatsoever. But in India we have people who believe that some castes are higher and some castes are lower. Every caste people can do all the worst possible things, there is no demarcation for them, and every low caste can be very very good. We have had many great poets and sufis in the lowest caste in India. These castes are man made, you know that man made cloth doesn't suit us, and all these man made ideas are not going to suit us, and it will lead us to a great, I wouldn't know if it is discretion, but I would say to a complete destruction. Because hatred breeds hatred, and it goes on increasing and increasing. If you cannot get rid of your hatred then I would say you are not a Sahaja Yogi. These are all conditionings, you were born in a white family, so you are white. You were born into a christian family that's why you are a christian. You were born into a jewish family that's why you are a jew. All this is just because you were born in that. But does that mean you are higher or lower? All the problems of the world today, if you see, are because of human attachment to nonsensical ideas of superiority. Only through collective living will it change. For example, I would say, in an ashram, we should have all colours of people living together, with equal rights, with an equal understanding and love and affection. If that's not there it's no use calling it an ashram. Once they asked me, “Mother, will you come and give a lecture in Harlem?” I said “Why not?” So some Sahaja Yogis said “Harlem? Mother do you know what Harlem is?” I said “I know, there's no harm”. They said, “you know the blacks are there and....” I said, “I'm also black!” You could call me black or you can call me white. But the LOVE is such a thing, love is such a thing, that cleanses all these ridiculous ideas we have about other people. To brand anyone as black and white shows that you have no eyes to see. Any person with depth, any person with a loving heart cannot see these superficialities - cannot see. Today is a day where we are celebrating the Gurus' greatness. Now look at all the gurus, how they were, how they behaved. We have many in India and many others, many sufis in other countries. These sufis or these saints that we have had never believed in any caste system. Never believed in black and white. Christ - He never believed in black and white. Buddha never believed in black and white. Nobody believed in any kind of man made ideas. These are all man made ideas which we have accepted and even after realisation we try to carry on with them. Now by saying, we do not get rid of it, but acting we can. Just see how we work out these stupid ideas within us, and how we can get rid of them. Very simple is, in meditation you should sit down and see how many people you love, and why do you love them. Not out of pity, but just with love, how much you care for others. I have seen some very beautiful examples of that but still I must say that there are certain fixed ideas which are to be dislodged completely - very important for every person who is a guru in Sahaja Yoga. Means he has to be a clean-hearted, open-hearted, loving-hearted, fellow. His heart should play the tune of Paramchaitanya. If his heart is full of all these man made ideas, I don't know what will happen. Even when they transplant a heart they cannot do it with a man made one, they have to do use a real, natural one. So you can imagine when you try to take to all these odd ideas, just divisive, they will never give you collectivity. So introspection has to be made. Are we one or are we judging each other? Now the judgement is quite a lot also. Now all this can be seen only when you live together. Otherwise how will you know? When you start living together you start discovering what is missing in you. What is not there. What has to be there. It is so peaceful to have a heart which is full of love, because every movement of that heart is so much joy giving, so much joy giving. There is a story of Shri Rama that he ate the beeres, a kind of fruit, which were first tasted by an old lady, with such love. Shows what? Shows that a person like Shri Rama, who was the king of the highest heritage, and this old lady who was just say of the lowest caste gives him these fruits with such love, and when he eats that he starts praising it. So his wife says “give me some”, he says “alright”. But the brother is still half way, I think, in Sahaja Yoga, so he doesn't like it . He doesn't like it and he gets angry. Then she eats and she says “Brother- in law, it is wonderful fruit, I must say” He says “Alright give me some”. But Rama says “Why should I give you some now?” First you get very angry, so why should I give you these fruits to eat?” The story shows that the level of your personality as a guru is judged by your CLEAN heart, by your loving heart, by your highest remarkable personality. In the personality it is not something that is to be built in artificially. It is not artificial. It is natural, absolutely natural. Whatever you do has to be natural. So this artificiality of certain ways of talking or certain ways of living together, creates problems. For example, we had an ashram in America, in New York and there was a lady who was very strict, everything should be tip top, it should be here, spoons should be here, the forks should be here and all sorts of things. And she hurt many people. It is not important, these cultural, we can call it, taboos, are not important in Sahaja Yoga. Because now you have become a guru. A guru, he can stay anywhere, live anywhere, eat anything, anytime. That should be the case. But also I have seen in Sahaja Yoga there are many who are very anxious to eat the food as soon as it is served. Once it happened, I was there, they had served the food, and just they started removing the plates. I said “What's the matter? I have to eat it.” “Oh you have not eaten Mother?“ “No I haven't yet touched it even!” So it's a sort of, first is the very lowest type of desire, we should say, is the hunger. Now a guru doesn't bother, whatever you give it is alright. Whatever you don't want to give is alright. Even if you don't want to give, it's alright. But one has to develop that by killing your ego. People feel very hurt if you serve them a little later than another person. It's all kind of funny things I have seen in Sahaja Yoga. On the contrary it is the lowest type of a desire, you should not be very much catered to if you want to be a real guru. Of course many problems are solved as I've seen so far that they do not take drugs, and do not take to drinking and all such things. This is such a blessing because if I had to start from that level I do not know how deep I would have gone, from where I would have pulled you out. But that is of course a very big thing, that is quite a nice thing. But still, to make a beautiful life out of it, which will attract the attention of everyone . How you talk, how you behave, how you love. So again one has to say that Guru Padwa comes only through the love that you have. Like they'll have say 10 people, for anything - for a drama supposing. And they have it only from a particular country or from a particular group. Then there's no fun , there's no fun. For example, they'll have a music group, so from the particular one caste could be or could be one religion could be one school or anything. So that shows that you are still not there - as a guru you should like every kind of culture, every kind of beauty and that has to be brought into our daily lives. You should not look down upon anyone for their colour, for their race, for their status, class consciousness. All this has been shown in the lives of all these gurus and saints who lived. Tukarama said “Oh God thank God you have made me a Siddhu caste”: He was not, but he just said so . All of us all the time should not be conscious of what has been our birth, what has been our personality, or what has been our beginning. One should not be able to make out of it who is a saint and who is not. Even people are proud that they are saints. I was surprised, that in America also, very much, that the Russians who have gone there are a very different quality of people. They wouldn't raise their eyes to me, wouldn't raise their eyes, and very deep, very very deep. Vibrations were very deep. The reason is I think that they have been oppressed during Communism, perhaps, maybe. And now they have come to America where they have seen this so called freedom and what nonsense it is doing. So, knowing these two extremes, I think they have gone very deep into their own being. And they have such strength and such unity among themselves. I was surprised that I had never met them before. They didn't come from Russia, only they were there. So what is it that has kept them like that is that they had no religion in their heads. They had no religion. To them every religion is the same and they had no religion to follow. So a guru cannot belong to any religion because these religions are also man made. They have created such a problem all over and they are all fighting amongst themselves. How can they be divine? So you should not get involved into some sort of a religious bias. I've seen it, that a Sahaja Yogi say, if he's a christian - then the bias will be so that he is a christian, you can make it out. If he is a jew, you can make it out. So what's the use of coming to Sahaja Yoga? Their attention, if it goes inside, they'll find out. You have to dissect yourself, to see what's wrong with you and why is it that you are not very successful as a guru. The success of the guru is, he doesn't bother about time. Every time is the holy time. For he's not bothered if somebody is late, or has come early. He's not a slave of watches and time. This is also man made. There were no watches about I think, say 300 years back. And nobody was so particular about the timing. So first thing, he is beyond time, “Kalateet”. Then he is also “Gunateet”. “Gunateet” means he doesn't belong to the left side or to the right side or to the centre. He is beyond these three - beyond these gunas, where he stands and sees everything in the divine light, everything. If something good happens to him, he says the divine light has done it, if something bad happens to him, he says the divine light wanted this way. Everything he leaves for the divine light. He is beyond the gunas. Like supposing there is a person who is on the right side, egotistical. Then he'll start saying “Ah how is it? I wanted this, this didn't work out and how?” He will challenge. Another one will start crying, the left-sided one, that “I am very sorry this has happened to me, it should not have happened, and all”. Or in the centre also, he might also think, “Oh how far are my vibrations? How could I not know and all that?” But a person who is a real guru, he looks at it as a drama, as just a witness of the drama, "It has happened, it was to happen. So, it has happened". Now what do we get out of it? Is we get something, the lesson that this was not right or this was wrong. That's all. For that moment, not to go on churning it in your head. That's all one gets and he's not bothered about anything else. So he goes beyond his gunas. Beyond the gunas, he lives. He eats anywhere, sleeps anywhere, he's not bothered where he lives. He's not bothered whether he goes by car or he goes by bullock cart. He doesn't feel that he is not being honoured if they give him a garland of few flowers, he's not bothered. Because nothing can enhance his personality. Nothing. You give them something simple, it's all right. Or even if you don't give, it's all right. It is not that he judges himself through your eyes, but he judges himself through his own eyes. And he sees for himself the joy of enjoying himself. What is there to be so particular about anything? What is so great to be hankering after anything? It just works out in its own time, and if it doesn't, it doesn't. What does it matter? Just think of it. Also, in Sahaja Yoga, a guru has to be a binding force. There are two types of people I have seen, which go on breaking relations. It is very easy for them, they go on complaining. But there are others who have a power to bind people together, in such a sweet manner that the people are brought closer together. Not that they have to forgive. It automatically works out. It just works out like that, and people go on joining such a man. I was surprised that in America there were very very few Sahaja Yogis. They spent, they said $50,000 and got 50 Sahaja Yogis. $1,000 for one Sahaja Yogi in America - so a very bad shape. But still you see we have to hope for them because there are lots of seekers, and lost in the wilderness of seeking. But, I thought that maybe it's a circle. They have to pass through this circle of stupidity and then definitely they will see the point. And it has happened. We had about 4,000 people for my lecture, which has never happened there in that country. Nobody has got such a lot of audience they said. But still not many came, but they got their realisation. So I think gradually, even in America, it may start growing. And the Sahaja Yogis must not only worry about their houses, and where they live and all that, but go all out to them. I would say that some of the Sahaja Yogis who could afford to go should go to America and work out this outside work. Maybe if there are outsiders who come and talk about Sahaja Yoga they might be impressed. There are so many false gurus that you can't count them. And they have accepted them. It is very surprising. Though they have suffered, they have lost in money and everything, still they have accepted - “after all he is our guru”. So there is basically something wrong with their brains, that they don't understand what is to be expected. I have written one book, perhaps it may reach them, but in any case you all can write your experiences and things and can publish it. Maybe it might help them to open their eyes. While writing anything you have to remember that it should show your quality of Sahaja Yoga. How you are. In that, one should not feel that you are putting them down or trying to say some things which will hurt them, but say it in such a manner that it corrects them, and helps them. For a guru it is important that he should not have any false ideas about himself. He might be from a poor family, he might be from a rich family, whatever it is he should not be conscious of that because once you become that. You see, look at Kabira, he was just a weaver. Look at Tredas? he was just a shoemaker. You see in India these a very low caste, supposed to be. He has written beautiful poetry. Then Namadeva, he was a tailor, just think of that. All these people have written the same thing with great beauty of poetry. How have they achieved it? Because now they have entered into that great realm of spirituality. You people also write some very good poetry, I know. But some of the people who have written good poetry turned out to be very obstinate, very egotistical people. This is something I couldn't understand. You are writing here beautiful poetry and you are full of ego, so from where the poetry is coming - God knows. So first of all is yourself, your personality, has to be something that people should say “this is a real guru we have met”. For that you know very well, you don't have to give up your family, don't have to give up anything. But ego if it is still there - I don't know what to say, but you must get rid of it, completely. And collectively also ego should be driven out - collectively. It's a thing that people are egotistical secretly within themselves, but sometimes it shows. It's a very subtle nonsensical disease that people have, and they just indulge into it. On this day of Guru Puja I have to say now that one has to work very hard, very hard. The most important thing is how much you have dedicated your life, your time, to Sahaja Yoga. Then only you will achieve that state of guru. Look at me I am a housewife, and I have my family responsibilities, problems, but despite that I am all the time thinking about Sahaja Yogis, Sahaja Yoga, and all that is this emancipation of human beings in the whole world. Not only here or there. In the whole world. So that should be your widened vision. Not for only your school, college or university, or this or that. But a very widened vision one should have. And that you have to develop through your working into every type of circumstance, every type of problems you have. Once you develop that kind of personality, then you'll be amazed how you can help so many people. I know there are so many Sahaja Yogis here who are worthy of praise and really I love them very much and they also love me very much. But one should always see that, as you are now going to be the gurus, you have to be careful not to think that you are a guru. You should never think you are a guru already. Once you think again that you are a guru your ego comes up. So once you decide “I am nothing, I am just a little ripple in the heart of my Mother” If such a humble feeling you get, then all your problems can be solved, and things will work out. Because your attention and your behaviour is going to impress other people. Nothing else. Whatever you may try, it is you who is going to get Sahaja Yoga further. There's so much to be said about how to become a good guru and all that but I think I'll keep it for next Guru Puja. Thank you very much.

Guru Puja. Cabella Ligure (Italy), 20 July 1997. Today’s puja is very important for us. You all have got your self realisation, you have all the knowledge that is necessary to give realisation to others. You have to know what you have already, that’s very important, because if you do not try your hand and if you do not try to give realisation to others, firstly you will have no faith in yourself - you’ll have no self esteem also. The second part is that, you try giving vibrations to other persons but don't get involved with that person. I've seen some people get too much involved . If they give realisation to one person they think they have done a great job and they start working on that person, his family, his relations and this. So, so far as you must have learnt, that one may be related, one may be closer to one person but not necessarily he will have that much of a chance of self realisation. Only way to grow is to be collective, there's no other way out. If people think that by staying away from ashrams, alone living somewhere, they will achieve much, that's not the way Sahaja Yoga is meant. Formerly people used to go to Himalayas and most of them were separated and only one or two persons were chosen for spiritual growth. Here it is not a question of spiritual growth, it is a question of your collectivity growing in you. That is how you become a person who is collective, who enjoys collective, who works on collective and lives with collective. Such a person develops new kinds of powers and these powers are such that they are very subtle but they penetrate into any molecule, atom or human beings anywhere. And their penetration is only possible if you have a temperament which is collective. Without being fully collective you cannot achieve that height, which is very necessary today for Sahaja Yoga. As you know there are problems and problems all over, as if we feel that the world is going to sink. Especially when I went to America I felt that “my goodness this is a hell that they have created here, it's just a hell”. Because they have no dharma -they don't believe in any dharma. Completely they worship adharma - and this kind of climate is flowing all over. All over the world you get reactions of American adharmic life - and people think there is nothing wrong in it. Whatever you tell them they will not believe. Nor will they think there is any worth in it. But they don't see the destruction from the very basis of their life, their families, their societies, the whole country I feel is filled with such ugly type of adharmic nature that one cannot even imagine how such ideas came into their heads. And these ideas, I need not tell you, you know them very well. But if you have to save your children you have to be an ideal guru yourself. If you just talk of Sahaja Yoga and if you try to assume that you are a Sahaja Yogi, also you try to propagate Sahaja Yoga without all these powers being awakened in you, it would be a failure. So how to develop these powers within us we should see? It's rather embarassing for me to tell you how you have to behave towards your guru. I think people have told you. But naturally, spontaneously, as soon as you get your realisation and grow in it - naturally you develop a very humble attitude. Also an attitude through which you achieve lots of qualities of your guru. Now supposing the guru is at a particular height, and if you try to go on to the same height, nothing will move towards you. So you must sit at a place which is much lower than the guru's. Some people take too much advantage of my good nature, I should say. And so many people have pointed out to me that you must correct these people, they talk to you at equal level and all that. I said “they will learn a lesson, they will learn a lesson” but sometimes it doesn't work out and they start talking in the same manner as if they are talking to your friend, or to your equal. First is complete humility. You have to be a humble person, extremely humble. Now you check on that, when you talk to others, are you humble? When you think of others, are you humble? When you look after your wife and children, are you humble? That's a very important thing for every person who thinks he is a guru. Humility is the first quality, or I should say, the ocean into which you must jump. Some people think that if you are humble, Mother, then people will take advantage of you . Nobody can take advantage of you because you have to remember another point, that you are protected all the time, looked after by Paramchaitanya. I know you know that, but how many really believe that there is Paramchaitanya with us? If you really believe that there is Paramchaitanya, then you don't get frightened, you don't get worried. You are not subjected to all kinds of nonsensical ideas also. But if you think that you are not protected, what will happen? How will things happen? Then Paramchaitanya leaves you alone. You have to see the whole drama. How Paramchaitanya works out - how it works out, how you are behaving. Supposing you are not in a proper shape and you try to show off too much. Then what happens? Then you'll get the reward for it, not that I do anything, but it's the Paramchaitanya which will teach you a lesson that you will remember, that you should have been a little different from what you have been. After all we have to know why we have come to Sahaja Yoga. To begin at the root of it, we have come to Sahaja Yoga because we wanted to know the absolute truth. And this absolute truth has been now known to you through your vibrations. You know it through your vibrations, what is the absolute truth. And you should work everything on that line, that absolute truth, whatever you feel on your vibrations you have to follow. But unfortunately I have seen many people who think that their vibrations are all right - they are all right, and whatever they are receiving on their vibrations is first class. Now how to correct that point is very difficult - it comes from ego. When you have ego you can never find anything wrong with you. And even if the vibrations are telling you something it might be somebody else who's telling you something, because you are not there, your ego is there, and your ego is just spoiling you and teaching you things which normally you would see clearly that - “I`m doing something wrong, I should not have done it”. In this process of correction and improvement, when you indulge you should see, are you getting subtler or grosser? That is the best way to judge. Now I have seen people who go on judging all these small things on vibrations, like whether these vibrations are alright or not in this tree, or on these flowers or on this land, all these material things they want to see the vibrations. But for what are you seeing the vibrations? You are seeing vibrations because of some sort of a material gain. You think that if you check the vibrations and the vibrations are alright, then you are quite safe. You'll not lose this, you'll not lose that. It's not true. Because vibrations are not meant to judge all these worldly things and worldly matters. It's absolutely cheapening the vibrations. You should not cheapen them, because vibrations can suggest things which may be detrimental to your growth, very much. Once I wanted somebody to go somewhere and so he said, “I didn`t go Mother” I said “Why? “because I saw the vibrations were very bad”. I said “that's why I asked you to go! If the vibrations were good, what was your use going there? I said “The reason I asked you to go there was so that you could help, but before that you judged yourself, judged your vibrations and then you didn't want to go.” So what happens, we want to have an easy cosy life and all our problems must be solved by Sahaja Yoga otherwise we think Sahaja Yoga is of no use. Whatever is our desire must be fulfilled. So now the desires are mostly personal, my child is not well, so the child should be alright. My husband is misbehaving, so the husband should be alright, or I have no house, I must get a house. See how we are moving our mind. It's still on a very consumer society, as they call it. We are all the time thinking now, I should have a son now instead of a girl, and then you get a son and you'll blame Sahaja Yoga for that. Anything that according to your desire doesn't work out, then you think that it is Sahaja Yoga that has done the harm and you are suffering because of Sahaja Yoga - or this faith in Sahaja Yoga gets a little moving, or we can say in a way, it's not that deep. But if you are deeply embedded in Sahaja Yoga then what happens? What may come, I will be a Sahaja Yogi! Supposing somebody dies. Normally in Sahaja Yoga it is difficult for people to die also, I must tell you. Even if they want to die they can't die. It's the Paramchaitanya which decides for you. But supposing you take up a position like that, still you must know that that wish may not be fulfilled, and if that is not fulfilled then you feel disturbed and you think, what's wrong? But your wish is not the wish of God Almighty. While Paramchaitanya is the wish of God Almighty. Now for example, I went to America, take it like this, and America attacked me, a little bit it troubled me, for all these days I’m suffering, so called, and I've had pain and I've had all kinds of things. But that I had to do because now the American Sahaja Yogis will realise how much one has to pay to make this dumb head of Americans to rise. How stupid they are and how foolish they are, who are enamoured by people who are taking money . So many people came to me and told me “Mother if you start saying that ‘this I can give for $300.--’, you'll get thousands and thousands of disciples of yours”. I said “They'll not be my disciples. If they come for money, thinking that because I'm taking money, it is worth this or this, that means that they are absolutely stupid”. Sahaja Yoga, you cannot get it by money. This is the first principle they don't understand, most of them - most of them don't understand that you can get self realisation without paying any money. There were some Gujurati rich people in New Jersey and they asked questions to Sahaja Yogis that “how is it possible to get is so easily? It's not possible because it's a very difficult thing. All the Shastras have said, everybody has said, it is very difficult to get your realisation - alright, if so, how is it you're giving it so easily, why?” Nobody knew how to answer these people. You should have said like this, “Alright, it is difficult, it's very difficult, and you cannot give mass - true. But if somebody's doing it, then you have to think about it, how somebody's doing it?”. So these kind of stupid questions are there and still if they go on, you have to really tell them in a very humble way, “Sir, one has to be WORTHY also!”. So they will run after people who are just making money out of them, making a fool of them - and they boast,“we have 3 gurus”, somebody says “we have 7 gurus” - and I wondered what must be their condition. So the people who are extremely stupid, in Sanskrit they're called “Muhr”, people who are brainless, cannot get their realisation. So give them up. If they are arguing with you, you just give them up. It's not their right to argue with you. Their right is to get realisation, but not their right to argue with you, ask you foolish questions and stupid questions. But you should always remember that with that humility, you must have your dignity intact because you are a guru. Once you know you are a guru one thing should be there - that you will not behave like a joker all the time. Your behaviour will be dignified. At the same time it will be a very pleasant face or a pleasant personality. It won't be an annoying type. Your personality itself will suggest that there is something special about you. Now how to develop that kind of a personality? The biggest problem in the West is ego and the biggest problem in the East is superego. Now this ego business I don't know from where it has come. In all walks of life they show how egotistical they are. For example, I went to America and I was surprised that there is a racial problem and the blacks are treated in a different manner and the whites in a different manner. I mean, colour is given by God, and somebody has to be black and white. If everybody looked the same it would look like a regiment. There should be some variety. There should be some change in the face and also in the expression. One has to be a person carrying better or different expressions otherwise you will be bored with such a world where everyone looks the same, just the same. But so much of racialism there that I was surprised that how it has worked into human mind. So as a guru you must develop a complete detest for racialism, complete detest. It's very easy to understand that anybody who has a fair complexion could be the cruellest man or the cruellest woman, and could be the cruellest mother also and the one who is black could be very kind and generous. It doesn't go with the colour. Temperament doesn't go with colour. But because the blacks have been ill treated so much that they react, and they react naturally sometimes in such a manner that it is very crude and very cruel. But this kind of attention, this kind of a, we can say, wrong type of attitude towards human beings, even towards animals, they won’t bear it . So towards human beings, to have such an attitude, itself shows that you are not worthy of Sahaja Yoga at all. So anyone of you, who has such a feeling that somebody's black and somebody's white, cannot be a guru in Sahaja Yoga. Then in India we have caste system. Equally bad and horrible. It has no sense in it, no basis whatsoever. But in India we have people who believe that some castes are higher and some castes are lower. Every caste people can do all the worst possible things, there is no demarcation for them, and every low caste can be very very good. We have had many great poets and sufis in the lowest caste in India. These castes are man made, you know that man made cloth doesn't suit us, and all these man made ideas are not going to suit us, and it will lead us to a great, I wouldn't know if it is discretion, but I would say to a complete destruction. Because hatred breeds hatred, and it goes on increasing and increasing. If you cannot get rid of your hatred then I would say you are not a Sahaja Yogi. These are all conditionings, you were born in a white family, so you are white. You were born into a christian family that's why you are a christian. You were born into a jewish family that's why you are a jew. All this is just because you were born in that. But does that mean you are higher or lower? All the problems of the world today, if you see, are because of human attachment to nonsensical ideas of superiority. Only through collective living will it change. For example, I would say, in an ashram, we should have all colours of people living together, with equal rights, with an equal understanding and love and affection. If that's not there it's no use calling it an ashram. Once they asked me, “Mother, will you come and give a lecture in Harlem?” I said “Why not?” So some Sahaja Yogis said “Harlem? Mother do you know what Harlem is?” I said “I know, there's no harm”. They said, “you know the blacks are there and....” I said, “I'm also black!” You could call me black or you can call me white. But the LOVE is such a thing, love is such a thing, that cleanses all these ridiculous ideas we have about other people. To brand anyone as black and white shows that you have no eyes to see. Any person with depth, any person with a loving heart cannot see these superficialities - cannot see. Today is a day where we are celebrating the Gurus' greatness. Now look at all the gurus, how they were, how they behaved. We have many in India and many others, many sufis in other countries. These sufis or these saints that we have had never believed in any caste system. Never believed in black and white. Christ - He never believed in black and white. Buddha never believed in black and white. Nobody believed in any kind of man made ideas. These are all man made ideas which we have accepted and even after realisation we try to carry on with them. Now by saying, we do not get rid of it, but acting we can. Just see how we work out these stupid ideas within us, and how we can get rid of them. Very simple is, in meditation you should sit down and see how many people you love, and why do you love them. Not out of pity, but just with love, how much you care for others. I have seen some very beautiful examples of that but still I must say that there are certain fixed ideas which are to be dislodged completely - very important for every person who is a guru in Sahaja Yoga. Means he has to be a clean-hearted, open-hearted, loving-hearted, fellow. His heart should play the tune of Paramchaitanya. If his heart is full of all these man made ideas, I don't know what will happen. Even when they transplant a heart they cannot do it with a man made one, they have to do use a real, natural one. So you can imagine when you try to take to all these odd ideas, just divisive, they will never give you collectivity. So introspection has to be made. Are we one or are we judging each other? Now the judgement is quite a lot also. Now all this can be seen only when you live together. Otherwise how will you know? When you start living together you start discovering what is missing in you. What is not there. What has to be there. It is so peaceful to have a heart which is full of love, because every movement of that heart is so much joy giving, so much joy giving. There is a story of Shri Rama that he ate the beeres, a kind of fruit, which were first tasted by an old lady, with such love. Shows what? Shows that a person like Shri Rama, who was the king of the highest heritage, and this old lady who was just say of the lowest caste gives him these fruits with such love, and when he eats that he starts praising it. So his wife says “give me some”, he says “alright”. But the brother is still half way, I think, in Sahaja Yoga, so he doesn't like it . He doesn't like it and he gets angry. Then she eats and she says “Brother- in law, it is wonderful fruit, I must say” He says “Alright give me some”. But Rama says “Why should I give you some now?” First you get very angry, so why should I give you these fruits to eat?” The story shows that the level of your personality as a guru is judged by your CLEAN heart, by your loving heart, by your highest remarkable personality. In the personality it is not something that is to be built in artificially. It is not artificial. It is natural, absolutely natural. Whatever you do has to be natural. So this artificiality of certain ways of talking or certain ways of living together, creates problems. For example, we had an ashram in America, in New York and there was a lady who was very strict, everything should be tip top, it should be here, spoons should be here, the forks should be here and all sorts of things. And she hurt many people. It is not important, these cultural, we can call it, taboos, are not important in Sahaja Yoga. Because now you have become a guru. A guru, he can stay anywhere, live anywhere, eat anything, anytime. That should be the case. But also I have seen in Sahaja Yoga there are many who are very anxious to eat the food as soon as it is served. Once it happened, I was there, they had served the food, and just they started removing the plates. I said “What's the matter? I have to eat it.” “Oh you have not eaten Mother?“ “No I haven't yet touched it even!” So it's a sort of, first is the very lowest type of desire, we should say, is the hunger. Now a guru doesn't bother, whatever you give it is alright. Whatever you don't want to give is alright. Even if you don't want to give, it's alright. But one has to develop that by killing your ego. People feel very hurt if you serve them a little later than another person. It's all kind of funny things I have seen in Sahaja Yoga. On the contrary it is the lowest type of a desire, you should not be very much catered to if you want to be a real guru. Of course many problems are solved as I've seen so far that they do not take drugs, and do not take to drinking and all such things. This is such a blessing because if I had to start from that level I do not know how deep I would have gone, from where I would have pulled you out. But that is of course a very big thing, that is quite a nice thing. But still, to make a beautiful life out of it, which will attract the attention of everyone . How you talk, how you behave, how you love. So again one has to say that Guru Padwa comes only through the love that you have. Like they'll have say 10 people, for anything - for a drama supposing. And they have it only from a particular country or from a particular group. Then there's no fun , there's no fun. For example, they'll have a music group, so from the particular one caste could be or could be one religion could be one school or anything. So that shows that you are still not there - as a guru you should like every kind of culture, every kind of beauty and that has to be brought into our daily lives. You should not look down upon anyone for their colour, for their race, for their status, class consciousness. All this has been shown in the lives of all these gurus and saints who lived. Tukarama said “Oh God thank God you have made me a Siddhu caste”: He was not, but he just said so . All of us all the time should not be conscious of what has been our birth, what has been our personality, or what has been our beginning. One should not be able to make out of it who is a saint and who is not. Even people are proud that they are saints. I was surprised, that in America also, very much, that the Russians who have gone there are a very different quality of people. They wouldn't raise their eyes to me, wouldn't raise their eyes, and very deep, very very deep. Vibrations were very deep. The reason is I think that they have been oppressed during Communism, perhaps, maybe. And now they have come to America where they have seen this so called freedom and what nonsense it is doing. So, knowing these two extremes, I think they have gone very deep into their own being. And they have such strength and such unity among themselves. I was surprised that I had never met them before. They didn't come from Russia, only they were there. So what is it that has kept them like that is that they had no religion in their heads. They had no religion. To them every religion is the same and they had no religion to follow. So a guru cannot belong to any religion because these religions are also man made. They have created such a problem all over and they are all fighting amongst themselves. How can they be divine? So you should not get involved into some sort of a religious bias. I've seen it, that a Sahaja Yogi say, if he's a christian - then the bias will be so that he is a christian, you can make it out. If he is a jew, you can make it out. So what's the use of coming to Sahaja Yoga? Their attention, if it goes inside, they'll find out. You have to dissect yourself, to see what's wrong with you and why is it that you are not very successful as a guru. The success of the guru is, he doesn't bother about time. Every time is the holy time. For he's not bothered if somebody is late, or has come early. He's not a slave of watches and time. This is also man made. There were no watches about I think, say 300 years back. And nobody was so particular about the timing. So first thing, he is beyond time, “Kalateet”. Then he is also “Gunateet”. “Gunateet” means he doesn't belong to the left side or to the right side or to the centre. He is beyond these three - beyond these gunas, where he stands and sees everything in the divine light, everything. If something good happens to him, he says the divine light has done it, if something bad happens to him, he says the divine light wanted this way. Everything he leaves for the divine light. He is beyond the gunas. Like supposing there is a person who is on the right side, egotistical. Then he'll start saying “Ah how is it? I wanted this, this didn't work out and how?” He will challenge. Another one will start crying, the left-sided one, that “I am very sorry this has happened to me, it should not have happened, and all”. Or in the centre also, he might also think, “Oh how far are my vibrations? How could I not know and all that?” But a person who is a real guru, he looks at it as a drama, as just a witness of the drama, "It has happened, it was to happen. So, it has happened". Now what do we get out of it? Is we get something, the lesson that this was not right or this was wrong. That's all. For that moment, not to go on churning it in your head. That's all one gets and he's not bothered about anything else. So he goes beyond his gunas. Beyond the gunas, he lives. He eats anywhere, sleeps anywhere, he's not bothered where he lives. He's not bothered whether he goes by car or he goes by bullock cart. He doesn't feel that he is not being honoured if they give him a garland of few flowers, he's not bothered. Because nothing can enhance his personality. Nothing. You give them something simple, it's all right. Or even if you don't give, it's all right. It is not that he judges himself through your eyes, but he judges himself through his own eyes. And he sees for himself the joy of enjoying himself. What is there to be so particular about anything? What is so great to be hankering after anything? It just works out in its own time, and if it doesn't, it doesn't. What does it matter? Just think of it. Also, in Sahaja Yoga, a guru has to be a binding force. There are two types of people I have seen, which go on breaking relations. It is very easy for them, they go on complaining. But there are others who have a power to bind people together, in such a sweet manner that the people are brought closer together. Not that they have to forgive. It automatically works out. It just works out like that, and people go on joining such a man. I was surprised that in America there were very very few Sahaja Yogis. They spent, they said $50,000 and got 50 Sahaja Yogis. $1,000 for one Sahaja Yogi in America - so a very bad shape. But still you see we have to hope for them because there are lots of seekers, and lost in the wilderness of seeking. But, I thought that maybe it's a circle. They have to pass through this circle of stupidity and then definitely they will see the point. And it has happened. We had about 4,000 people for my lecture, which has never happened there in that country. Nobody has got such a lot of audience they said. But still not many came, but they got their realisation. So I think gradually, even in America, it may start growing. And the Sahaja Yogis must not only worry about their houses, and where they live and all that, but go all out to them. I would say that some of the Sahaja Yogis who could afford to go should go to America and work out this outside work. Maybe if there are outsiders who come and talk about Sahaja Yoga they might be impressed. There are so many false gurus that you can't count them. And they have accepted them. It is very surprising. Though they have suffered, they have lost in money and everything, still they have accepted - “after all he is our guru”. So there is basically something wrong with their brains, that they don't understand what is to be expected. I have written one book, perhaps it may reach them, but in any case you all can write your experiences and things and can publish it. Maybe it might help them to open their eyes. While writing anything you have to remember that it should show your quality of Sahaja Yoga. How you are. In that, one should not feel that you are putting them down or trying to say some things which will hurt them, but say it in such a manner that it corrects them, and helps them. For a guru it is important that he should not have any false ideas about himself. He might be from a poor family, he might be from a rich family, whatever it is he should not be conscious of that because once you become that. You see, look at Kabira, he was just a weaver. Look at Tredas? he was just a shoemaker. You see in India these a very low caste, supposed to be. He has written beautiful poetry. Then Namadeva, he was a tailor, just think of that. All these people have written the same thing with great beauty of poetry. How have they achieved it? Because now they have entered into that great realm of spirituality. You people also write some very good poetry, I know. But some of the people who have written good poetry turned out to be very obstinate, very egotistical people. This is something I couldn't understand. You are writing here beautiful poetry and you are full of ego, so from where the poetry is coming - God knows. So first of all is yourself, your personality, has to be something that people should say “this is a real guru we have met”. For that you know very well, you don't have to give up your family, don't have to give up anything. But ego if it is still there - I don't know what to say, but you must get rid of it, completely. And collectively also ego should be driven out - collectively. It's a thing that people are egotistical secretly within themselves, but sometimes it shows. It's a very subtle nonsensical disease that people have, and they just indulge into it. On this day of Guru Puja I have to say now that one has to work very hard, very hard. The most important thing is how much you have dedicated your life, your time, to Sahaja Yoga. Then only you will achieve that state of guru. Look at me I am a housewife, and I have my family responsibilities, problems, but despite that I am all the time thinking about Sahaja Yogis, Sahaja Yoga, and all that is this emancipation of human beings in the whole world. Not only here or there. In the whole world. So that should be your widened vision. Not for only your school, college or university, or this or that. But a very widened vision one should have. And that you have to develop through your working into every type of circumstance, every type of problems you have. Once you develop that kind of personality, then you'll be amazed how you can help so many people. I know there are so many Sahaja Yogis here who are worthy of praise and really I love them very much and they also love me very much. But one should always see that, as you are now going to be the gurus, you have to be careful not to think that you are a guru. You should never think you are a guru already. Once you think again that you are a guru your ego comes up. So once you decide “I am nothing, I am just a little ripple in the heart of my Mother” If such a humble feeling you get, then all your problems can be solved, and things will work out. Because your attention and your behaviour is going to impress other people. Nothing else. Whatever you may try, it is you who is going to get Sahaja Yoga further. There's so much to be said about how to become a good guru and all that but I think I'll keep it for next Guru Puja. Thank you very much.

8/22/1997

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Evening Program and Weddings Announcements, Eve of Shri Krishna Puja

Italy

Cabella Ligure

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Evening Program Talk 1997-08-22 Evening Program At Krishna Puja, Cabella, Italy, You can see, I have become black today because of Shri Krishna. It's very interesting how everything in this world moves according to the desire of the param Chaitanya ...It's very surprising. I wanted them to make a film about fundamentalism. It's done very well ..We might be able to show it in India, maybe because they have already asked me to make some episodes of my life...It's they would like to show one after the another ...Somehow in India in the Television, We have many Sahaja yogis I didn't know Even the Director, Deputy Director...They were all Sahaja Yogis,& once they came to see me in Delhi in our Ashram & said to me -(Somebody said ) Mother, You don't like media but what about Television? I said don't talk to me about Television, they are horrible people(Mother laughs ) ruining our lives and I gave a very big lecture you know for about 5 minutes So 2 persons came towards me holding their ears. They said Mother, we are sorry but we belong to the Television ...oh I see I am sorry if I said something ...They said I am the Director & he is the Deputy Director ..of all India Institute of Television...Can you imagine...Oh my God, I said I never knew that you are here & I am sorry for what I said ...So they wanted to have my...I think I had 3 interviews with them. They said Mother We will not ask you a question alright... then...You come and sit wherever You want to sit and we will organise everything and we want to show to the people what is reality. I was so surprised & they did it no doubt but last time when they wanted to do it I was not in Delhi and I couldn't do it...So I said next time I will try to do something. They said why didn't you give us some episodes? I think the films I have seen what these Americans the great, have made.All of them I would like to give them. But the second part of Christians also must be shown to give a balance.And also of the stupid Hindu, you call them False Gurus So like that we can have the combination of 3 films In that you can show about "Harey Ramas" how they are begging and how other people are beggers like"jeohas" witness.But apart from that Christianity works out everything secretly ..you see ...So you have to expose some things also there because it is on top very nice very good to talk to and all that but inside they are doing all kinds of things and making people take to What you can say something very sinister...Something very wrong..Unless and Unitil you expose all these 3.It won't have a balance I think and then we can talk about Sahaja yoga as well...I am very happy with the way the film was made ...I am very very happy that the Muslims are a poor thing from childhood are taught to hate everyone.At least in Christianity, they talk of love ...Talk (mother laughs )because they have so many wars and so many nonsensical things. Now we can put forward in these films say for Christians We can put forward nos-tics, We can put forward in the Muslim thing how the real person was Ali ...How he was murdered, his wife was ....his children were murdered.And whats going on now...Its quite a bold thing which you have to put in ..And by doing all these things nobody gets anything -the Peace, the Joy which is promised by religion.So these religions have no meaning The religion within is very different which is to be awakened and once it is awakened we all become one ..We have to come to that point...So I think this film as it is alright It could be little bit shorten here and there.Plus you must have another film and another film.Then these 3 films, if they are ready I am sure we will be able to show the nonsense that is going on. Muslims are against the Christians more, also against Jews but Christian - they are against because they have seen this Christian religion gives complete freedom to What you like, There women were nude ..they wear very scanty dresses...And the woman is like prostitutes and the men are like -I don't know what, they run after the women and men run after ......So that's the only job they have got...They haven't got anything higher anything great so they are against They think that they must put some taboos ...but I like the way you showed about these people from Colombia, Original! .I am going to talk about them in Ganesh Puja ...There are worth lots of things than you know...So we have to see to this ..that what is wrong in all these things...In Sahaja yoga we attend to our primordial taboos they are primordial These taboos are primordial and if you cross them, and if you leave your "Maryada' then whether you are a Muslim or a Hindu you can not be saved ..You can not get your realisation...So in Sahaja yoga, the built-in dharma within us is awakened and we take to primordial taboos which are meant for a human being.If the human being does not observe these taboos then What happens ...Whatever is happened in America, or Iran or any other country ...So what are the primordial taboos I am going to discuss in Ganesha Puja ...And once that is awakened within us I don't tell you ..that Don't do this and don't do that.There is no need because they are all awakened within you and you just don't do it ...So that is, has to be brought in this way...But the filming was very good ... the acting was excellent I must say...But we can write another story without me if it is possible ...Because this will be all right say -for Indians ...They will understand ...but if you show this say to any [unclear] country will be shocked.For that I would say that -this gentleman who was [unclear ] he sent a very nice letter say that -In the Koran, it is written that to follow a religion you will rad about but the main thing is you have to know yourself If you do not know yourself you can never know God Is written clearly.So he says this great work is done by Shri Mataji ..is the work of Islam that she is doing...It's a big sort of a ...what you call .......a big certificate...Because he is the head of all of the "Shias of Europe" ...so that is how if he want to make the people happy ...We cannot discipline them ...We can't tell them that don't do this don't do that Only thing you better awaken them ...As soon as there is light within you, you see for yourself...What's wrong ... of course some people do get it much faster, much deeper but some have ego some have conditionings...So still they go back to it again they come back It is like that. But mostly, Sahaja yogis, once they get to Sahaj yoga they go deep into it........ mostly...And I must say that now we are sending most of the Russians to America ...They will solve the problem ..May God Bless you

Evening Program Talk 1997-08-22 Evening Program At Krishna Puja, Cabella, Italy, You can see, I have become black today because of Shri Krishna. It's very interesting how everything in this world moves according to the desire of the param Chaitanya ...It's very surprising. I wanted them to make a film about fundamentalism. It's done very well ..We might be able to show it in India, maybe because they have already asked me to make some episodes of my life...It's they would like to show one after the another ...Somehow in India in the Television, We have many Sahaja yogis I didn't know Even the Director, Deputy Director...They were all Sahaja Yogis,& once they came to see me in Delhi in our Ashram & said to me -(Somebody said ) Mother, You don't like media but what about Television? I said don't talk to me about Television, they are horrible people(Mother laughs ) ruining our lives and I gave a very big lecture you know for about 5 minutes So 2 persons came towards me holding their ears. They said Mother, we are sorry but we belong to the Television ...oh I see I am sorry if I said something ...They said I am the Director & he is the Deputy Director ..of all India Institute of Television...Can you imagine...Oh my God, I said I never knew that you are here & I am sorry for what I said ...So they wanted to have my...I think I had 3 interviews with them. They said Mother We will not ask you a question alright... then...You come and sit wherever You want to sit and we will organise everything and we want to show to the people what is reality. I was so surprised & they did it no doubt but last time when they wanted to do it I was not in Delhi and I couldn't do it...So I said next time I will try to do something. They said why didn't you give us some episodes? I think the films I have seen what these Americans the great, have made.All of them I would like to give them. But the second part of Christians also must be shown to give a balance.And also of the stupid Hindu, you call them False Gurus So like that we can have the combination of 3 films In that you can show about "Harey Ramas" how they are begging and how other people are beggers like"jeohas" witness.But apart from that Christianity works out everything secretly ..you see ...So you have to expose some things also there because it is on top very nice very good to talk to and all that but inside they are doing all kinds of things and making people take to What you can say something very sinister...Something very wrong..Unless and Unitil you expose all these 3.It won't have a balance I think and then we can talk about Sahaja yoga as well...I am very happy with the way the film was made ...I am very very happy that the Muslims are a poor thing from childhood are taught to hate everyone.At least in Christianity, they talk of love ...Talk (mother laughs )because they have so many wars and so many nonsensical things. Now we can put forward in these films say for Christians We can put forward nos-tics, We can put forward in the Muslim thing how the real person was Ali ...How he was murdered, his wife was ....his children were murdered.And whats going on now...Its quite a bold thing which you have to put in ..And by doing all these things nobody gets anything -the Peace, the Joy which is promised by religion.So these religions have no meaning The religion within is very different which is to be awakened and once it is awakened we all become one ..We have to come to that point...So I think this film as it is alright It could be little bit shorten here and there.Plus you must have another film and another film.Then these 3 films, if they are ready I am sure we will be able to show the nonsense that is going on. Muslims are against the Christians more, also against Jews but Christian - they are against because they have seen this Christian religion gives complete freedom to What you like, There women were nude ..they wear very scanty dresses...And the woman is like prostitutes and the men are like -I don't know what, they run after the women and men run after ......So that's the only job they have got...They haven't got anything higher anything great so they are against They think that they must put some taboos ...but I like the way you showed about these people from Colombia, Original! .I am going to talk about them in Ganesh Puja ...There are worth lots of things than you know...So we have to see to this ..that what is wrong in all these things...In Sahaja yoga we attend to our primordial taboos they are primordial These taboos are primordial and if you cross them, and if you leave your "Maryada' then whether you are a Muslim or a Hindu you can not be saved ..You can not get your realisation...So in Sahaja yoga, the built-in dharma within us is awakened and we take to primordial taboos which are meant for a human being.If the human being does not observe these taboos then What happens ...Whatever is happened in America, or Iran or any other country ...So what are the primordial taboos I am going to discuss in Ganesha Puja ...And once that is awakened within us I don't tell you ..that Don't do this and don't do that.There is no need because they are all awakened within you and you just don't do it ...So that is, has to be brought in this way...But the filming was very good ... the acting was excellent I must say...But we can write another story without me if it is possible ...Because this will be all right say -for Indians ...They will understand ...but if you show this say to any [unclear] country will be shocked.For that I would say that -this gentleman who was [unclear ] he sent a very nice letter say that -In the Koran, it is written that to follow a religion you will rad about but the main thing is you have to know yourself If you do not know yourself you can never know God Is written clearly.So he says this great work is done by Shri Mataji ..is the work of Islam that she is doing...It's a big sort of a ...what you call .......a big certificate...Because he is the head of all of the "Shias of Europe" ...so that is how if he want to make the people happy ...We cannot discipline them ...We can't tell them that don't do this don't do that Only thing you better awaken them ...As soon as there is light within you, you see for yourself...What's wrong ... of course some people do get it much faster, much deeper but some have ego some have conditionings...So still they go back to it again they come back It is like that. But mostly, Sahaja yogis, once they get to Sahaj yoga they go deep into it........ mostly...And I must say that now we are sending most of the Russians to America ...They will solve the problem ..May God Bless you

8/23/1997

http://amruta.org/?p=4448

Shri Krishna Puja: Primordial Taboos and Sahaj Dharma

Italy

Cabella Ligure

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Shri Krishna Puja. Cabella (Italy), 23 August 1997. Today, we are here to celebrate Krishna puja. I went to America and they wanted me to have a Mahakali puja. But I said, no, let me talk about Krishna only, because we have to first realize what is the strength of this Puja. How are we going to establish Shri Krishna within ourselves? He, Himself has said, that whenever there is a downfall of dharma – dharma doesn’t mean what we understand as Hinduism, Christianity or Islamic nonsense – it is not. Dharma means, our primordial taboos that are built-in in the human beings. About these, I think aboriginals knew better than we. But then what we did, we dominated them and also they had to change their style of life. The primordial taboos are only understood if people are trying to understand oneself or else, whatever has come to them through tradition. Now, Sahaj Dharma is a little bit different, in the sense that it’s much higher than the Sahaj ideas we talk of, but it’s much higher than even what Shri Krishna said or Shri Rama said. First Shri Rama thought, best is to give them disciplines. People should be serious about life, have full idea about their own being, they should respect themselves. All these things were written down long time back. Also, people, basically when they were good people, they understood that whatever is bad for us, we should not do. These are primordial taboos. Now, these primordial taboos are built-in within us. Now, supposing I say don’t drink, you will go on drinking. If I say don’t tell lies, you will tell lies. It’s the human nature, you see, is to go against primordial taboo because they think now, they have freedom, freedom to do what they like. You are free people. Actually they are not. They are under the spell of all the kinds of allurement, you can call it, or temptations, which are against human life. And it’s very natural to be a person of Dharma. Small children, mostly have it. For example, I’ve seen children, they feel very shy to take out their clothes, even small, small boys, I’ve seen. They won’t take out their clothes in the presence of others. They feel shy. So, all these are described like “Ya Devi Sarva Bhuteshu Lajja Rupena Samsthita”. So, you should be shy, you should be humble and respect your body – it’s very important. In these modern times, exposure of body is regarded as a great achievement of women. They are trying to become aboriginals, you see. That time they never had these ideas and they were not so confused, you see. So, even if their women were scantily dressed, it didn’t mean that it was some sort of a sex or some sort of an attraction for men or men behaving in funny manners to show that they have a special attraction for women. I mean, why should you? It is absolutely absurd that men should be attracted to women and women should be attracted to men – and on the road, on the street, you go, you see, just that going on! This adharma is the worst I think, it’s a curse. Because, after coming to Sahaja Yoga also people start doing this nonsense, you know. They should all go to lunatic asylum, I think, they are no good for Sahaja Yoga. But dharma gets established as soon as you have the light of the Spirit. At the time of Shri Rama, He had to put down: A, B, C, D, E, F. At the time of Moses, also, He had to put down ten commandments – but Krishna thought the other way round - to establish a Dharma of pure love, pure love. So, because He wanted that Shri Rama’s taboos were forced on people, just like Islamic, just like Christians – never works. So, He thought better to ask them in their freedom, they must develop pure love. Radha, who was with Him, as His power, is called as Ahlada dayini. She’s the one who gives joy. Pure joy! So, all these limited type of attractions end up in trouble. Now, drinking is against you, you know that. Today they are talking about tobacco, tomorrow they’ll talk of drinking when they will find so many people suffering from horrible livers and die. Then they will taboo it. But it’s a natural taboo for your body. If you do something all the time which is not good for you, for your good life, you are becoming adharmic. This is to be understood very clearly that the Sahaja Dharma is that you are just free – complete freedom from lust, greed and all nonsense. You are above it. You are above this. Sahaj Dharma is above the Dharma established by Shri Krishna or by Shri Rama. Because you have reached that stage. It’s in complete freedom you have to be dharmic. Whatever is not good for you, you should not do. I don’t have to tell you that you don’t do this or you don’t do that. Whatever I say may not be acceptable but immediately your vibrations will tell you. This is Sahaj Dharma. In the Sahaj Dharma, you get rid of all kinds of, as they say: (Hindi words). Means – lust, anger, attractions, then – greed; that’s very important, greed – greed and attractions. Now, if you understand how people are greedy; greedy for what? This America is dying of consumerism, you see. Now, see the trick of the trade: In America, you can borrow any amount of money from the bank, no problem. Now, even if you don’t borrow, they’ll send you a letter, “Why don’t you take 20 thousand cheques we are sending you, why not have it? Aah, very rich you’ll become, you see – it´s very nice to take a loan.” I was told some people used to come to Ganapatipule after taking loans. I said, “Stop that nonsense.” So they take the loan and then they come to Ganapatipule. All the time their mind is: “How will I pay this loan, how will I manage?” All the time the attention is distracted, even when you want to do something good to yourself by coming to Ganapatipule. So, such a mind is not free. The free mind is that which has an attention completely enlightened by the Spirit. But problem is we are still rising out of this human bondage to a higher life of realization. And when we are going to that level, we have to realize that we have to give up all these shackles, all these horrible things within us. Like a bird, when it is born out of the egg, shakes out all the parts of the egg. Your brothers, your sisters, your father, your mother, your husband; everybody – they’ll try to put you down. Now, if they are drinking, they’ll say, “Come along, you better have something to drink, you are not social, you are useless, you are not up to date. What is this nonsense?” That’s how a fashion starts and this collective action of fashion didn’t come from Shri Krishna and not in Sahaj. In Sahaj, you are absolutely free from all these nonsenses. If you want, you can wear a good dress, if you don’t want you need not. You are free. You are free from money bondage. This is very important. Money bondage is another thing. I know some Sahaja Yogis who came to Sahaja Yoga trying to make money out of Sahaja Yoga. You came to Sahaja Yoga for what? To get out of that money bondage. In the Sahaj Dharma, to you money is nothing but the dust of your feet. Nothing so important. Then, we have such a collective sense of accepting nonsense. That has to be dropped out, especially in America, I was surprised. Also in England. A fellow came as a hippie. His hair was looking like some monkey, monkey’s better I must say, I don’t know like what, all put together like a, you can say… I mean, there is nothing to compare, I tell you. So I asked him, “Why are you having such hair?” He said, “Because I want to be primitive. Now, we have to get to the primitiveness.” I said, “But your brain is modern, what is the use of growing your hair like that? You think you can become primitive? You cannot!” Then afterwards I learnt that he died. Another one like that came and he didn’t die, but went to lunatic asylum. Like that I met many, but why do you do it? Because that’s the fashion. Now Italy, you know, is prospering because of all kinds of designers. Now there is a joke about the new rich people, in Russia especially. Russians are not like that, normally. They don’t accept something because it is a fashion. So, one fellow said that: “My God, you lost your hand in that accident!” “Doesn’t matter, but I lost my very expensive watch from Switzerland.” “Really? What?” “It was a Rolex.” Doesn’t matter if the hand is gone. The Rolex is gone! Rolex is the fashion. [14.46: Can you remove him down, this one, because people can’t see you.] So these are new rich people who have money. (Dog is on the stage: It’s alright now, he’ll be able. Come along, come along. Ah. Sit down, sit down. Now go down) They (the dogs) don’t follow any fashions, I have not seen dogs taking to any fashions. Monkeys is taking - I mean, supposing, you see the Italian designers make something special for them, they won’t think much of it. Maybe their masters might buy it, but not these animals. Now, we don’t have to become animals of course, but we don’t also have to become slaves of fashions. So there are some shops which are very expensive. Why? Because they are designers. So you move about telling everybody, “See, I am wearing this thing from a designer shop, this is from designer shop.” That means, what about you? You have no sense of designs, you have no sense of understanding what you need and what you don’t need. And nowadays most of them are in jail also, sorry to say, but they have money and they have made money by befooling you. Specially in America I was surprised that they were selling most of the things which were coming from Italy designs, Italian designs, written down Italian design, so they were buying it, Italian design. I was surprised that such artistic things they create that are available everywhere, such beautiful things. But what they believe in, is some sort of a group madness. Everybody wearing the same kind of design is from this or that. This is not Sahaj Dharma. We are not slaves of anything. We are free people. We have not to accept any design or anything. Ah, it is there, is there! Let the stupid follow that. We are Sahaja Yogis. Now, this also prevails among people who are supposed to be sadhus, they all dress up the same way. How can you make out who is who? In Sahaja Yoga, we don’t want you to dress up the same way, look the same way, cut your hair the same way. No. You have to be individuals, because you are free, but that doesn’t mean – freedom is always supported by wisdom – that doesn’t mean that you do what you like. All kinds of funny things happen when a person doesn’t know what is the light of the Spirit. In the light of the Spirit, you don’t get involved into this kind of collective madness that is going on. We are so collective in mad things. I wish they could be collective more in wise things. Wisdom is very important and a joy giving quality of Radhaji, Ahlada Dayini Shakti, has to come within us. Means, when we meet another person in the collectivity, another person should feel happy meeting you. So he taught the Dharma of love. Love is not there if you discard because he is black or because he is brown, because he is white. It’s very superficial – what is black, white and yellow? I don’t understand. Here they go to the sea shores to make themselves black and there they say, “We don’t want to have any blacks,” specially for Americans. I think this kind of separation I found there, among the blacks and the whites, I really wept. I went to Harlem. Sahaja yogis said, “Mother, will you go to Harlem? I said, “Why not, I’m black, if you call me black, I’m black. If you call me white, I’m white. If you call me yellow, I’m yellow. So, I’m going.” And there I had a lecture, you know, so many people were there, really I cannot forget. It is one of the most famous places that there is built in that hall and the same hall is built in Australia where I had addressed many people. I thought, “Just look at this!” They said, “Mother, the Australians copied from us.” Now, these people, so sweet, so beautiful, I tell you. I could see their heart, I could feel it and the fellow was trying to compere. After my lecture he just came, he hugged me, kissed me. I mean, he would have even minced me, a little boy about 22 years of age; such love he felt. And he said, “Mother, next time You come, You are going to come to Harlem.” But I am told that hall is closed. So the Americans system somehow or another goes against democracy, not only against democracy but against what Abraham Lincoln wanted. They had such a great man there and there is a little street I saw in his name. Of course in Washington they say they have some nice, beautiful statues. But otherwise his principles are finished, his ideas are finished because somehow or other, some people came and wrote against – from England especially – against the black people. What business do they have to write against something that is created by God? If there are the same colours everywhere, they all will look like military people. They have to have different colours, they have to have different hues. See, look at the trees, look at the flowers. And look at the different hues the sky has, just to make us happy – Alladha. What gives you happiness is variety. Variety is a sign of beauty. If there is no variety, it’s so boring I tell you, so very boring. But they are very proud of it and they think no end of themselves. They think they are very great people, they have a sense of superiority, because they have a certain type of nose or maybe certain type of lips or maybe a certain type of hair. Such stupid things they are and you join hands with them. How can you join hands with them? You want your freedom? Then be a free person. In the freedom you have to have variety, very important. I would say that, now, the Sahaja Yogis who are going back to America should have a new style of drive: go to the black people. I was very happy to see the South American seminar, that they had taken specially to aboriginal people. They went and met them. I have met them also and I was so surprised that they immediately said, “Mother, You are spiritual, we know, but can You solve our problem?” I said, “What’s your problem?” “Very simple, we have a land.” “It’s alright, then?” “Very little land, 5 or 6 hectares of land that belongs to us where the sage grows.” Sage is a kind of a, according to them, it is a holy plant. Alright. “Now, we always meet, all of us, there for different festivals because we regard that land as a holy land.” They know so many things, you know. This is a holy land – there were vibrations for that. So they always used to meet. So natural! “So, what has happened now, what is your problem?” “The government has sold this land, this American government, to an Indian.” I said, “To an Indian?” “Yes, so can you request this Indian to return it to us? We’ll pay him the money.” I said, “What’s the name of the Indian?” They told me the name, I said, “My God! He is a Sindhi, Sindhi! He won’t leave you even one single pai, is he going to give you this? I’m sorry, I may be Divine or I may be anything, I can’t help you.” But I was surprised, nobody raised a voice against it. They should have raised voice. They should have told the government, “Please return their land. Why do you want to have it? Why do you want to grab it?” As it is all the Americans are immigrants. They don’t belong to that place, that they were not owners of that place, they’d gone – they are immigrants. So they have no right to keep somebody’s land like that and then to think they are superior. It’s very nice, somebody enters your house and thinks he is very superior and drives out all the people of the family. That is what has happened in America and just opposite is Sahaj Dharma. With Sahaj Dharma, you take people into your heart, you love them. Your love flows all the time, your compassion flows all the time. To me it’s a problem, my this body is more compassionate than myself. I don’t even think of compassion and this body just grasps everything. It wants to solve the problem of others but I don’t think you can have that kind of a body, you shouldn’t have. But, at least you should have a heart which is open. You see on the street somebody who is a dark fellow. I like about the black Americans, that once I got down at one airport, so one gentleman, black gentleman said, “Hello darling, how are You? How are You here? Very happy to see You!” “I’m happy to see you. How are you?” Then once I was travelling in … what was the airport? Ursula was with me. So he looked at me, one fellow, very tall, hefty, fat, you know. He said, “Ah! Are You back again?” “Ah”. I said, “I’m back. You know me?” “Of course, of course, I know You.” He had never met me, I had never known him. But I felt happy, I felt very happy. That’s the best way to meet people. Supposing you are walking on the street, you see some black gentleman going. It’s a terrible life there, I tell you, it’s a terrible life for them. I’ve known, I’ve read books on them, I’ve cried and wept and I felt very sorry. So, as a Sahaja Yogi, you should just jump at them and you should say, “Hello, how are you?” Shake hands with them. They won’t cut your throat, I can tell you. In criminality, I don’t know who is more criminal in America, whether they are the blacks or the whites, competing. But, if you are kind and if you are loving, you can remove that part of criminality which is within them because hatred can only be washed away by pure love. But people think they are very cunning, very superior in cunningness, of course. Otherwise, what is their superiority? Only this complexion, this white complexion is the worst of all. I was very fair, very fair, till I got married, or for some time, and then I started becoming darker and darker. Because white complexion gets all kinds of, you see… the light you put on me, I absorb, I get black spots. So it’s not a very great thing to be white, I don’t think so. It looks very funny and pale and joyless. But no use going to the sea, making your body, I think brown, brown, not so black, brown and then suffering from cancer of the skin. This kind of stupidity is also very much fashionable. Now, in collectivity, how much do we get impressed by this, we should be on the watch. I saw my granddaughter was wearing a sleeveless dress. I told her, “Better you should not wear a sleeveless dress.” She says, “It’s very hot, I feel very hot.” She’s young. I said, “But see, these are two very important chakras. If you expose them, then you’ll have a problem”. She doesn’t like to wear dresses which are above the knee, but she says, “People wear even above the knee.” I said, “Knees, they are very important chakras, we should keep them closed, otherwise if they are affected, we’ll have knee trouble.” Immediately she changed – immediately. “Mother, I’ll wear blouse from inside and something from outside.” Immediately. Because she knew this is a natural primordial taboo that we should not expose our these two chakras and these chakras. But, nowadays, the more you have long legs, I don’t know, they have shorter clothes. And I don’t understand what is in the legs, the whole beauty is in the legs or what? So, I’ve met one lady who travelled with me. She was wearing a burkha because she was a Moslem and by the time we landed in London, she took out the burkha and the dress was much above the knees. I said, “What kind of Moslem woman is she? She’s worse than even Christians because they wouldn’t wear such a thing. You know, to come out of the aeroplane, you have to come down on the staircase.” No “Lajja”, no shame, nothing, shamelessness! So, Sahaj Dharma is that you have to have shame, you have sense of shame. What you talk to others, what you say to others, how you behave towards them, in the Sahaj Dharma is Alladha dayini. If something is not Alladha dayini, keep quiet. Don’t say. What is the need? What is there to be sarcastic? Showing off your brains in your sarcasm. It’s not a sign of good breeding that you talk sarcastically to others in a sharp way. But if you talk sweetly, what’s the harm? This sweetness comes from Radhaji. Now, of course they have misused Her and they have made it into a sort of a Romeo and Juliet business. It was not that way. She was a very pure woman and She was Mahalakshmi. So, to be a Mahalakshmi, after coming to Sahaja Yoga, you should know that you should dress up in a way that’s perfectly alright. Once I remember, I was at a big party and one gentleman came and he sat down, “Aaaaaah!” I said, “What happened?” “What a relief, Mother, Mrs. Shrivastava, to see You. See these women, I’m fed up. But You came, I felt such a relief.” I said, “What is so relieving?” “You are so serene.” So, women are serene in Sahaj Dharma. They are not stupid, frivolous, laughing at anything. That’s not the way for a woman. Anything happens, they must laugh. I mean, there is something laughable, alright, but some things are not even laughable, they laugh. That’s not the way. That can be ridiculous also, can ridicule others. But, laugh of appreciation, laugh of enjoyment, is so pure and creates such a beautiful atmosphere. I think the whole ecological problem is in our brains and your upbringing. It is not outside. It is inside us, which is reflected outside. In Ganesha Puja I’m going to tell you how we are so closely related to Mother Earth and how the Mother Earth and the atmosphere reacts to our behaviour, to how we live. In the Sahaj Dharma, you give up lust and greed very easily, that I know. I mean, if they can’t even give up that, then they should not call them as Sahaja Yogis. The first thing you give up is lust and greed. I find it among young people, now, that those who come to Sahaja Yoga, become really, very free people. They don’t run after women. Women don’t run after men. They are together, they sit together, talk together, laugh together, but it is the purity that is there. In the Koran it is described, that when Kyama will come, beautiful women and beautiful men will be there, but they’ll have no lust and greed, they’ll be pure. It is today, you can see – that lust and greed is finished in most of you – most of you. Automatically it is finished and now you can see for yourself that you are free of this bondage. Then our marriages are coming tomorrow. In the Sahaj Dharma, first thing that is very important is forgiveness. If somebody cannot forgive, then he cannot be a Sahaja Yogi – forgiveness. How this forgiveness comes in is by forgetting the past. Otherwise you’ll go on saying, “This person tortured me, that person tortured me, he was very mean to me, he was that to me, he did this to me.” Shows that you are not of that calibre to understand Sahaja Yoga – because you cannot forgive. What is there to remember? The present is the best. Now if you are sitting here with me, enjoying the Alladha dayini Shakti, that time if you are thinking about the past, shows what? That you are not of the calibre. To be the calibre of Sahaja Yoga, you should be free of your past. Finished. There is no need to confess. I know after Sahaja Yoga many people wrote letters to me of confessions and I just said, “Baba, just burn these letters. I don’t remember. I don’t want to read anything about anyone.” So, there should be forgiveness. If there is forgiveness, you’ll be surprised, you’ll feel very relieved and your married life will be very happy. But if you try to remember something… Alright, some marriages are really, really very difficult, alright, so you get out. In Sahaja Yoga we have allowed complete divorce, but must be with some reason, not because you think something is superior. Now we have banned many countries from where we don’t want to have girls or from where we don’t want to have boys. What is the reason? With experience, we have learnt, they are not marriage substance. Now then, better not marry. And if you marry then live like an ideal Sahaja Yogi. Also, if you are a Sahaja Yogini, then you can carry on very much better by forgiving all the time. Every time, when people tell me, “Mother, You see, You must help me.” “Why?” “Because, You know, my husband doesn’t give me any money.” I said, “Give him up. I don’t mind. He must give you money. Why doesn’t he give you money?” If you talk to the husband, he’ll say, “Mother, she’s very extravagant.” I said, “You better give up Sahaja Yoga both of you and do what you like.”. In Sahaj Dharma, the husband-wife’s relation should be really romantic, should be really beautiful. It is not, you know, we talk of love and all that here, very rarely people fall in love and carry on with it. It’s a blessing if you really get that kind of a feeling. But mostly it is a curse. So to fall in love is very good but that doesn’t mean you forget that you are a Sahaja Yogi. In that, Sahaja Yoga helps a lot, I think, in your married life. Same, dharma is for your children, that you bring up your children – not troubling them too much, but into a free life. Let them use their wisdom. Sometimes I know children go astray and try to follow wrong things. Then you must correct them, you must tell them, it is your duty. They were not born out of the trees but they were born here, from the parents. So it is the duty of the parents to tell them that this is wrong and this should not be done. It’s a very wrong thing, you should correct that and that correction should be in a Sahaj way. I’ll tell you an example. I had a problem once, with somebody coming to me and saying, “Mother, I can’t do without smoking, I have to smoke.” I said, “Better smoke then, but you can’t be a Sahaja Yogi, because a smoking Sahaja Yogi is a funny caricature you know, I can’t think of a Sahaja Yogi smoking. How will I look if I start smoking like that?” “Ah, horrible!” I said, “Then, if you are my son, you cannot smoke, it looks bad.” He gave up smoking, can you imagine? So, dealing with children, always make yourself an example, yourself part and parcel of that event. So the children don’t feel, you know. This is something that I have talked many-a-times. Children is one thing I tell you, they can give up everything but not your love. If they know you love them, they will not accept anything that will make you not love – not love them. This is for definite, because children are the best people who know about love. Of course, I don’t know, I feel that in English language, I didn’t see many books about children written beautiful, beautiful things. There was one book that was published when I was in London: “The children talking about the politicians”, and they published I think, 5000 books and that very same day it was finished. So, talk to children, talk to them. You’ll be amazed, they are full of honey. They have such nice, nice things with them and when they talk like that, then you are amazed how they say things, how they talk of Sahaj, how they are expressing their spiritual strength. Now, we have many very good children and also they are absolutely Sahaj. One boy came and he just prostrated himself before me. So, I said, “Why you did it?” “I was getting cool vibrations, Mother, from you, so I did it.” “You like it?” “Of course! “More than chocolate?” “Of course!” I was surprised. “What… you eat them or what?” “No, no need to eat, you know, you feel so happy inside and I feel, Mother, you are putting Your hand on my heart and trying to console me.” I was surprised. “And where is your heart?” He said, “It’s here, here is my heart, I feel it here.” Just imagine, what love and what understanding of Sahaja Yoga. For these little children who are below even five years. Now, you are all grown up children of mine and I want you to know all the beauties that are within you, that you have to enjoy. First of all, learn to laugh at yourself. That’s the best way to enjoy yourself, you know. And not to spend much time looking in the mirror, that’s another way. You spend too much at the mirror, then there’s something wrong with you. I think, personally, that it’s a kind of a possession may be. So, what you should see inside: “Are we Sahaj Dharmies?” Mother has established Sahaj Dharma, much more than what Krishna wanted to establish. He wanted to establish the Dharma of love which of course we have, but apart from that we have so many other beautiful facets and such beautiful things within our personality that we have forgotten to enjoy. So, the attention should be on your own qualities, on your own personalities and then you’ll be amazed how your personality is giving you joy, giving you Alladha, giving you so much patience with others. To me the whole thing looks like sometimes a joke because nothing so serious. It’s not a Rama’s type that you have to be serious. I don’t have to kill anybody, I don’t use any weapons in this lifetime. Without weapons if things are solved, what can you do? But you must try to see the beauty as Sahaja Yogis. You should be sensitive to see how you have been helped, how you have been guided, how you have been blessed. This is Sahaj Dharma. If you cannot know that, then you live on a very low level. I mean, it’s not the fault of Sahaja Yoga, but it’s your style, you are not sensitive. Supposing somebody does not know that he is burning his hand. So what will you do? He has no sense, he has no sensitivity, he cannot feel. He can drink, he can smoke, he can do everything and still he is existing alright. Must be a rakshasa, I think or I don’t know what to say. So, we have to take an example from other good Sahaja Yogis and not from the bad ones and how do we proceed in enjoyment – which is an ocean, just an ocean. For example, now, I came, everybody was trying to fan. But also in the West another problem is they like to live in hermetically sealed rooms, hermetically sealed cars, they are very afraid of draught, I don’t know, as if they´ll be thrown away or what will happen to them. They don’t want draught. I mean draught is not coming from some iceberg. So, they don’t believe in the fresh air at all and that’s one other reason that people are very suffocating sometimes you know, they just suffocate. They are used to a suffocating life. Once I was in India, I was very hot, so somebody was driving me but the person who was there was from a Western country. He said, “Don’t open – don’t open the window.” I said “Why?” “There’s a draught.” I said, “In this country, in India people live in the open. What is a draught? What draught are you talking about?” You can’t open the door, you can’t open the window, you can’t open anything, if you open anything, they’ll be all dead, you see, as if. So open yourself! As it is about the nature, also it is in their private lives. They don’t want to open. If somebody comes to their house, “Oh, my God, now we’ll have to share the wines, we’ll have to share the foods.” They cannot share. They cannot share. That is most uncollective. But in India, I must say, people have a good sharing capacity because they are still primitive, they are still primordial, yet not gone out of the way to satisfy their own ego. But I think somehow or another in India, people like to share. If you want to please any Indian, you tell them, “Tomorrow I’ll come and have food with you.” His wife will jump. She’ll say, “Now what do you like, tell me, what food do you like?” She will jump. But otherwise, what happens, as soon as you say he is coming for food, the wife will say, “No, no, I am going to my mother.” Immediately she’ll have a programme. I just don’t understand. They’ll have beautiful houses, very clean, very beautiful everything, but if somebody comes to their house, they get a shock as if electricity has entered. So, for whom is all this? To show off, they will borrow money from the banks. Even Indians in America they do. They want to have three Mercedes, four houses, for what? Borrowing money, with borrowing money they’ll do it. Sahaja Yogis have not to borrow any money. There is no need, you can do away with things. Why to have so many cars? Nowadays, people don’t even walk at all. We used to go to our school, my father had a car in India – nothing doing. We had to walk. We used to climb one mountain.It was about five miles the school – every morning. Then in the night, in the evening, the car used to come, you see. And I would walk with my bare feet, because so much vibrations were there, and the chappals, I thought were cutting my vibrations, so I used to have chappals in my hand and walk. One day, we had a new driver, my father sent him. He said, “How will I know who is your daughter?” He said, “Any girl with the chappals in her hand is the one whom you have to bring.” So, it is to enjoy your nobility, to enjoy your generosity. It’s very important. And not to side with anyone. You are not identified with anyone. It’s much better now, I think, because since you have taken to Sahaj Dharma, I’ve seen – English will tell you what’s wrong with English, Swiss will tell you what’s wrong with Swiss, Indians will tell you what’s wrong with Indians. Actually, I learnt from them. I don’t know these things are there. Russians will tell you what’s wrong with Russians. They immediately start seeing, “What’s wrong with us? Where do we lack in this?” Because the collectivity of being in one country, say as an Indian, we see now, what’s happening in India, all corrupt, horrible, this, that. So, I said, “Alright, if you don’t like India why don’t you go somewhere else?” “No, no, no, no, that – we will stay here, but this is a very corrupt government, they are very bad, this, that.” Anywhere you go, you will find immediately they see – because you don’t know they are now chosen to change their country. I have taken up many questions, now, of India and I’m going to start working on that level now. We have already started, in a way, for the destitute women, then for other types of poverty and all that. Just by saying, remove poverty, poverty cannot be lost. You have to have feeling for the poor, then only. But you get with more that feeling because you are an Indian. You are an Indian, so what? Your own brothers, sisters starving. You get that very deep feeling within you if you are a Sahaj Dharmi. So, this is the new Dharma we have established now in this world. A new race, with a new Dharma, which is much above even Shri Krishna’s vision is coming through. He describes in the beginning. I think, He was not a good salesman, because He describes the best first; you see, the salesman first will start from 2 rupies, then go onward to 2000 rupies. But He first told us that you have to become Sthita Pragnya, means Sahaja Yogi – and then Shri Krishna was asked a question by Arjuna, “What is the Sthita Pragnya?” Then He describes a Sahaja Yogi, that He describes before, first chapter, second chapter is that. Now, then the questions start. You know, Arjuna was a great questioner, I think. So, he starts asking questions, “Then what about this and what about that and what about that?” So He goes on explaining to him that, “You see, this is all just a Maya, this is all an illusion you have. Get out of this illusion. If once you get out of this illusion,” because Arjuna said, “They are my relations, they are my teachers how can I kill them?” So, Krishna says, “Nobody is killed.” He said, “Nobody is killed, but they are being killed because they are not following the Satya Dharma, so it’s alright.” What is your brother, what is your sister? They are not following the Satya Dharma, so you have nothing to do with them. If you can correct them and help them, it’s alright, otherwise forget them. First, deal with people who are straight. Like we should say that we must deal with people who are simple, innocent and then you can take to difficult people when you are that good. Otherwise you will come here saying, “Mother, I have caught this, I have caught that.” So, in Sahaj Dharma you, being the Spirit, you also know about others very well and you can make it out, who is who, what chakras they are catching. But the trouble in America, I found that Sahaja Yogis used to, just could go and tell somebody, “You are catching on this chakra.” Now, he has come for the first time and you tell him, “You, you are very egoistical.” He says “How do you know?” “Your Agnya is catching.” Maybe, his own Agnya might be catching. Is this the way to receive a new person? Is this the way to talk to a new person? See, on the contrary, you should say, “Come, sit down, very nice, you are very great, see?” Because they are still ignorant, so they like some sort of buttering, as you call it, you see, we call it chaplusi. Then, gradually, because you are doing this just to make him a Sahaja Yogi, because you love him. Basically that is the reason. But as soon as somebody comes in, if you tell him, “This is wrong with you, that’s wrong with you.” This is not a Pope’s business, where you go on telling people what’s wrong with them, go and confess. To whom? To all these silly people. It’s not that. What we have to show; that you have fallen in love with that person, you are nice to that person because you like that person. Then gradually you pull him up. But as soon as he comes you give him one shot, so finished. How can you have good relations? Americans have to learn this. I don’t know why Americans think they are very superior people. I tell you for wisdom I would not say they are so much. It’s completely lacking – wisdom in them. And they misunderstand people very fast, start judging others, is not the way you can have Sahaj Dharma. Sahaj Dharma is – you are your own. You are in your own, you are in your own realm and in your happiness and joy. Where is the time to criticise others? So the best thing is to show your maximum love to everyone. In that love, you should not show your pity but love which is again: Alladha dayini. This is the message of Shri Krishna but I don’t know how many understood it. Now, what you find those who are following Shri Krishna, like Hare Rama people, they are really beggars on the street. He is Kubera, and his disciples are all beggars, can you imagine. Does it add to His glory as Kubera? So, Sahaja Yogis are not like that. Should be generous, should not bother too much about yourself. Should not all the time think about yourself, but think of the collectivity, how you behave. Collectivity is not to bring – force people to come to Sahaja Yoga. Once they come to Sahaja Yoga they will know the joy of life and you don’t have to tell them anything. Nothing has to be told, just silently it will work and they will feel your love. You see, love is something so great. It not only helps others but it also helps you. It’s so joyous to give realisation to others. But if you start telling, “Your this chakra is catching”, why are you giving realisation? If you don’t know how to give realisation, better not do it. So, to criticise is not the way we can enjoy love. Ah, of course you can pull the legs of each other sometimes, just for fun’s sake, but not to harm, not to torture, not to make that person fall. You are all Sahaj Dharmies, you have accepted Sahaj Dharma and in Sahaj Dharma we have to have pure love of the heart, not hypocrisy, and a sensible life. Now, this Pope is against abortion. I’m not. If a woman is suffering, let her have abortion. The one who is living is more important than the ones who are not living. If somebody wants to have abortion, that child can be born again. According to us, nobody dies permanently, whatever it may be. So, this is one way they use it for propagation of human beings. Like they say the Moslem women are a like a factory. They go on producing more children, more children, more children. So there are more voters. So the Pope knows that. That’s why he says, “Abortion, No.” Christians should not abort, because then there will be less Christians to compete with the Moslems. But in Sahaja Yoga, we don’t have such funny, radical, nonsensical things. We have divorce, and we have also abortion, which is important to understand that these are all taboos which are there. But not for people who have to get out of the troubles – you have to help them. Then that’s how it works. But to be very frank, we don’t have to do abortions, it is achieved by Paramchaitanya. Paramchaitanya does for me. I don’t have to. I don’t have to do anything. It’s Paramchaitanya. It’s nice because it knows what is to be done, how to achieve it. And sometimes you are in trouble, then know that you are not leaving things into the hands of the Paramchaitanya. If you leave it into the hands of Paramchaitanya things will work out very well. So, to understand Sahaja Yoga, first and foremost thing is, how much you are enjoying yourself? How much enjoyment are you giving to others? For that you have music, you have this, that. I was saying that today I won’t speak much, but, somehow, with Shri Krishna you can’t keep quiet. He played Murli, Bansuri, flute. Look at Him. I talked to you, but He just played Murli. He didn’t talk so much, except for the Gita, you won’t find Him talking. And those who read also Gita are horrible people, I tell you, I have met, those who read Gita. They don’t understand what Shri Krishna’s Dharma is. If they don’t understand Shri Krishna, how will they understand Sahaja Yoga? So, for all of you is to practice on love, on forgiveness, on appreciating others, on giving joy to others. Some of the Sahaja Yogis have been very kind to me also. Once I went to the shop to buy a sari, for myself and the sari was very expensive for my purpose. So, I didn’t buy. Said, “Let it be. This colour suits me, alright, but it doesn’t matter.” I didn’t have so much money to buy that. So, that Sahaja Yogi bought that sari and on my birthday gave me – and really, I could not see because my eyes were filled with tears. Just a small thing like that. Normally I don’t expect you to do anything for me, no. But small, small things make you so happy. But even if you do this to somebody, may not understand, may not realize, may not feel it. But if you are a Sahaja Yogi, you will. So thank you very much; for all this that I have said to you, try to enjoy yourself and make others enjoy you. May God bless you.

Shri Krishna Puja. Cabella (Italy), 23 August 1997. Today, we are here to celebrate Krishna puja. I went to America and they wanted me to have a Mahakali puja. But I said, no, let me talk about Krishna only, because we have to first realize what is the strength of this Puja. How are we going to establish Shri Krishna within ourselves? He, Himself has said, that whenever there is a downfall of dharma – dharma doesn’t mean what we understand as Hinduism, Christianity or Islamic nonsense – it is not. Dharma means, our primordial taboos that are built-in in the human beings. About these, I think aboriginals knew better than we. But then what we did, we dominated them and also they had to change their style of life. The primordial taboos are only understood if people are trying to understand oneself or else, whatever has come to them through tradition. Now, Sahaj Dharma is a little bit different, in the sense that it’s much higher than the Sahaj ideas we talk of, but it’s much higher than even what Shri Krishna said or Shri Rama said. First Shri Rama thought, best is to give them disciplines. People should be serious about life, have full idea about their own being, they should respect themselves. All these things were written down long time back. Also, people, basically when they were good people, they understood that whatever is bad for us, we should not do. These are primordial taboos. Now, these primordial taboos are built-in within us. Now, supposing I say don’t drink, you will go on drinking. If I say don’t tell lies, you will tell lies. It’s the human nature, you see, is to go against primordial taboo because they think now, they have freedom, freedom to do what they like. You are free people. Actually they are not. They are under the spell of all the kinds of allurement, you can call it, or temptations, which are against human life. And it’s very natural to be a person of Dharma. Small children, mostly have it. For example, I’ve seen children, they feel very shy to take out their clothes, even small, small boys, I’ve seen. They won’t take out their clothes in the presence of others. They feel shy. So, all these are described like “Ya Devi Sarva Bhuteshu Lajja Rupena Samsthita”. So, you should be shy, you should be humble and respect your body – it’s very important. In these modern times, exposure of body is regarded as a great achievement of women. They are trying to become aboriginals, you see. That time they never had these ideas and they were not so confused, you see. So, even if their women were scantily dressed, it didn’t mean that it was some sort of a sex or some sort of an attraction for men or men behaving in funny manners to show that they have a special attraction for women. I mean, why should you? It is absolutely absurd that men should be attracted to women and women should be attracted to men – and on the road, on the street, you go, you see, just that going on! This adharma is the worst I think, it’s a curse. Because, after coming to Sahaja Yoga also people start doing this nonsense, you know. They should all go to lunatic asylum, I think, they are no good for Sahaja Yoga. But dharma gets established as soon as you have the light of the Spirit. At the time of Shri Rama, He had to put down: A, B, C, D, E, F. At the time of Moses, also, He had to put down ten commandments – but Krishna thought the other way round - to establish a Dharma of pure love, pure love. So, because He wanted that Shri Rama’s taboos were forced on people, just like Islamic, just like Christians – never works. So, He thought better to ask them in their freedom, they must develop pure love. Radha, who was with Him, as His power, is called as Ahlada dayini. She’s the one who gives joy. Pure joy! So, all these limited type of attractions end up in trouble. Now, drinking is against you, you know that. Today they are talking about tobacco, tomorrow they’ll talk of drinking when they will find so many people suffering from horrible livers and die. Then they will taboo it. But it’s a natural taboo for your body. If you do something all the time which is not good for you, for your good life, you are becoming adharmic. This is to be understood very clearly that the Sahaja Dharma is that you are just free – complete freedom from lust, greed and all nonsense. You are above it. You are above this. Sahaj Dharma is above the Dharma established by Shri Krishna or by Shri Rama. Because you have reached that stage. It’s in complete freedom you have to be dharmic. Whatever is not good for you, you should not do. I don’t have to tell you that you don’t do this or you don’t do that. Whatever I say may not be acceptable but immediately your vibrations will tell you. This is Sahaj Dharma. In the Sahaj Dharma, you get rid of all kinds of, as they say: (Hindi words). Means – lust, anger, attractions, then – greed; that’s very important, greed – greed and attractions. Now, if you understand how people are greedy; greedy for what? This America is dying of consumerism, you see. Now, see the trick of the trade: In America, you can borrow any amount of money from the bank, no problem. Now, even if you don’t borrow, they’ll send you a letter, “Why don’t you take 20 thousand cheques we are sending you, why not have it? Aah, very rich you’ll become, you see – it´s very nice to take a loan.” I was told some people used to come to Ganapatipule after taking loans. I said, “Stop that nonsense.” So they take the loan and then they come to Ganapatipule. All the time their mind is: “How will I pay this loan, how will I manage?” All the time the attention is distracted, even when you want to do something good to yourself by coming to Ganapatipule. So, such a mind is not free. The free mind is that which has an attention completely enlightened by the Spirit. But problem is we are still rising out of this human bondage to a higher life of realization. And when we are going to that level, we have to realize that we have to give up all these shackles, all these horrible things within us. Like a bird, when it is born out of the egg, shakes out all the parts of the egg. Your brothers, your sisters, your father, your mother, your husband; everybody – they’ll try to put you down. Now, if they are drinking, they’ll say, “Come along, you better have something to drink, you are not social, you are useless, you are not up to date. What is this nonsense?” That’s how a fashion starts and this collective action of fashion didn’t come from Shri Krishna and not in Sahaj. In Sahaj, you are absolutely free from all these nonsenses. If you want, you can wear a good dress, if you don’t want you need not. You are free. You are free from money bondage. This is very important. Money bondage is another thing. I know some Sahaja Yogis who came to Sahaja Yoga trying to make money out of Sahaja Yoga. You came to Sahaja Yoga for what? To get out of that money bondage. In the Sahaj Dharma, to you money is nothing but the dust of your feet. Nothing so important. Then, we have such a collective sense of accepting nonsense. That has to be dropped out, especially in America, I was surprised. Also in England. A fellow came as a hippie. His hair was looking like some monkey, monkey’s better I must say, I don’t know like what, all put together like a, you can say… I mean, there is nothing to compare, I tell you. So I asked him, “Why are you having such hair?” He said, “Because I want to be primitive. Now, we have to get to the primitiveness.” I said, “But your brain is modern, what is the use of growing your hair like that? You think you can become primitive? You cannot!” Then afterwards I learnt that he died. Another one like that came and he didn’t die, but went to lunatic asylum. Like that I met many, but why do you do it? Because that’s the fashion. Now Italy, you know, is prospering because of all kinds of designers. Now there is a joke about the new rich people, in Russia especially. Russians are not like that, normally. They don’t accept something because it is a fashion. So, one fellow said that: “My God, you lost your hand in that accident!” “Doesn’t matter, but I lost my very expensive watch from Switzerland.” “Really? What?” “It was a Rolex.” Doesn’t matter if the hand is gone. The Rolex is gone! Rolex is the fashion. [14.46: Can you remove him down, this one, because people can’t see you.] So these are new rich people who have money. (Dog is on the stage: It’s alright now, he’ll be able. Come along, come along. Ah. Sit down, sit down. Now go down) They (the dogs) don’t follow any fashions, I have not seen dogs taking to any fashions. Monkeys is taking - I mean, supposing, you see the Italian designers make something special for them, they won’t think much of it. Maybe their masters might buy it, but not these animals. Now, we don’t have to become animals of course, but we don’t also have to become slaves of fashions. So there are some shops which are very expensive. Why? Because they are designers. So you move about telling everybody, “See, I am wearing this thing from a designer shop, this is from designer shop.” That means, what about you? You have no sense of designs, you have no sense of understanding what you need and what you don’t need. And nowadays most of them are in jail also, sorry to say, but they have money and they have made money by befooling you. Specially in America I was surprised that they were selling most of the things which were coming from Italy designs, Italian designs, written down Italian design, so they were buying it, Italian design. I was surprised that such artistic things they create that are available everywhere, such beautiful things. But what they believe in, is some sort of a group madness. Everybody wearing the same kind of design is from this or that. This is not Sahaj Dharma. We are not slaves of anything. We are free people. We have not to accept any design or anything. Ah, it is there, is there! Let the stupid follow that. We are Sahaja Yogis. Now, this also prevails among people who are supposed to be sadhus, they all dress up the same way. How can you make out who is who? In Sahaja Yoga, we don’t want you to dress up the same way, look the same way, cut your hair the same way. No. You have to be individuals, because you are free, but that doesn’t mean – freedom is always supported by wisdom – that doesn’t mean that you do what you like. All kinds of funny things happen when a person doesn’t know what is the light of the Spirit. In the light of the Spirit, you don’t get involved into this kind of collective madness that is going on. We are so collective in mad things. I wish they could be collective more in wise things. Wisdom is very important and a joy giving quality of Radhaji, Ahlada Dayini Shakti, has to come within us. Means, when we meet another person in the collectivity, another person should feel happy meeting you. So he taught the Dharma of love. Love is not there if you discard because he is black or because he is brown, because he is white. It’s very superficial – what is black, white and yellow? I don’t understand. Here they go to the sea shores to make themselves black and there they say, “We don’t want to have any blacks,” specially for Americans. I think this kind of separation I found there, among the blacks and the whites, I really wept. I went to Harlem. Sahaja yogis said, “Mother, will you go to Harlem? I said, “Why not, I’m black, if you call me black, I’m black. If you call me white, I’m white. If you call me yellow, I’m yellow. So, I’m going.” And there I had a lecture, you know, so many people were there, really I cannot forget. It is one of the most famous places that there is built in that hall and the same hall is built in Australia where I had addressed many people. I thought, “Just look at this!” They said, “Mother, the Australians copied from us.” Now, these people, so sweet, so beautiful, I tell you. I could see their heart, I could feel it and the fellow was trying to compere. After my lecture he just came, he hugged me, kissed me. I mean, he would have even minced me, a little boy about 22 years of age; such love he felt. And he said, “Mother, next time You come, You are going to come to Harlem.” But I am told that hall is closed. So the Americans system somehow or another goes against democracy, not only against democracy but against what Abraham Lincoln wanted. They had such a great man there and there is a little street I saw in his name. Of course in Washington they say they have some nice, beautiful statues. But otherwise his principles are finished, his ideas are finished because somehow or other, some people came and wrote against – from England especially – against the black people. What business do they have to write against something that is created by God? If there are the same colours everywhere, they all will look like military people. They have to have different colours, they have to have different hues. See, look at the trees, look at the flowers. And look at the different hues the sky has, just to make us happy – Alladha. What gives you happiness is variety. Variety is a sign of beauty. If there is no variety, it’s so boring I tell you, so very boring. But they are very proud of it and they think no end of themselves. They think they are very great people, they have a sense of superiority, because they have a certain type of nose or maybe certain type of lips or maybe a certain type of hair. Such stupid things they are and you join hands with them. How can you join hands with them? You want your freedom? Then be a free person. In the freedom you have to have variety, very important. I would say that, now, the Sahaja Yogis who are going back to America should have a new style of drive: go to the black people. I was very happy to see the South American seminar, that they had taken specially to aboriginal people. They went and met them. I have met them also and I was so surprised that they immediately said, “Mother, You are spiritual, we know, but can You solve our problem?” I said, “What’s your problem?” “Very simple, we have a land.” “It’s alright, then?” “Very little land, 5 or 6 hectares of land that belongs to us where the sage grows.” Sage is a kind of a, according to them, it is a holy plant. Alright. “Now, we always meet, all of us, there for different festivals because we regard that land as a holy land.” They know so many things, you know. This is a holy land – there were vibrations for that. So they always used to meet. So natural! “So, what has happened now, what is your problem?” “The government has sold this land, this American government, to an Indian.” I said, “To an Indian?” “Yes, so can you request this Indian to return it to us? We’ll pay him the money.” I said, “What’s the name of the Indian?” They told me the name, I said, “My God! He is a Sindhi, Sindhi! He won’t leave you even one single pai, is he going to give you this? I’m sorry, I may be Divine or I may be anything, I can’t help you.” But I was surprised, nobody raised a voice against it. They should have raised voice. They should have told the government, “Please return their land. Why do you want to have it? Why do you want to grab it?” As it is all the Americans are immigrants. They don’t belong to that place, that they were not owners of that place, they’d gone – they are immigrants. So they have no right to keep somebody’s land like that and then to think they are superior. It’s very nice, somebody enters your house and thinks he is very superior and drives out all the people of the family. That is what has happened in America and just opposite is Sahaj Dharma. With Sahaj Dharma, you take people into your heart, you love them. Your love flows all the time, your compassion flows all the time. To me it’s a problem, my this body is more compassionate than myself. I don’t even think of compassion and this body just grasps everything. It wants to solve the problem of others but I don’t think you can have that kind of a body, you shouldn’t have. But, at least you should have a heart which is open. You see on the street somebody who is a dark fellow. I like about the black Americans, that once I got down at one airport, so one gentleman, black gentleman said, “Hello darling, how are You? How are You here? Very happy to see You!” “I’m happy to see you. How are you?” Then once I was travelling in … what was the airport? Ursula was with me. So he looked at me, one fellow, very tall, hefty, fat, you know. He said, “Ah! Are You back again?” “Ah”. I said, “I’m back. You know me?” “Of course, of course, I know You.” He had never met me, I had never known him. But I felt happy, I felt very happy. That’s the best way to meet people. Supposing you are walking on the street, you see some black gentleman going. It’s a terrible life there, I tell you, it’s a terrible life for them. I’ve known, I’ve read books on them, I’ve cried and wept and I felt very sorry. So, as a Sahaja Yogi, you should just jump at them and you should say, “Hello, how are you?” Shake hands with them. They won’t cut your throat, I can tell you. In criminality, I don’t know who is more criminal in America, whether they are the blacks or the whites, competing. But, if you are kind and if you are loving, you can remove that part of criminality which is within them because hatred can only be washed away by pure love. But people think they are very cunning, very superior in cunningness, of course. Otherwise, what is their superiority? Only this complexion, this white complexion is the worst of all. I was very fair, very fair, till I got married, or for some time, and then I started becoming darker and darker. Because white complexion gets all kinds of, you see… the light you put on me, I absorb, I get black spots. So it’s not a very great thing to be white, I don’t think so. It looks very funny and pale and joyless. But no use going to the sea, making your body, I think brown, brown, not so black, brown and then suffering from cancer of the skin. This kind of stupidity is also very much fashionable. Now, in collectivity, how much do we get impressed by this, we should be on the watch. I saw my granddaughter was wearing a sleeveless dress. I told her, “Better you should not wear a sleeveless dress.” She says, “It’s very hot, I feel very hot.” She’s young. I said, “But see, these are two very important chakras. If you expose them, then you’ll have a problem”. She doesn’t like to wear dresses which are above the knee, but she says, “People wear even above the knee.” I said, “Knees, they are very important chakras, we should keep them closed, otherwise if they are affected, we’ll have knee trouble.” Immediately she changed – immediately. “Mother, I’ll wear blouse from inside and something from outside.” Immediately. Because she knew this is a natural primordial taboo that we should not expose our these two chakras and these chakras. But, nowadays, the more you have long legs, I don’t know, they have shorter clothes. And I don’t understand what is in the legs, the whole beauty is in the legs or what? So, I’ve met one lady who travelled with me. She was wearing a burkha because she was a Moslem and by the time we landed in London, she took out the burkha and the dress was much above the knees. I said, “What kind of Moslem woman is she? She’s worse than even Christians because they wouldn’t wear such a thing. You know, to come out of the aeroplane, you have to come down on the staircase.” No “Lajja”, no shame, nothing, shamelessness! So, Sahaj Dharma is that you have to have shame, you have sense of shame. What you talk to others, what you say to others, how you behave towards them, in the Sahaj Dharma is Alladha dayini. If something is not Alladha dayini, keep quiet. Don’t say. What is the need? What is there to be sarcastic? Showing off your brains in your sarcasm. It’s not a sign of good breeding that you talk sarcastically to others in a sharp way. But if you talk sweetly, what’s the harm? This sweetness comes from Radhaji. Now, of course they have misused Her and they have made it into a sort of a Romeo and Juliet business. It was not that way. She was a very pure woman and She was Mahalakshmi. So, to be a Mahalakshmi, after coming to Sahaja Yoga, you should know that you should dress up in a way that’s perfectly alright. Once I remember, I was at a big party and one gentleman came and he sat down, “Aaaaaah!” I said, “What happened?” “What a relief, Mother, Mrs. Shrivastava, to see You. See these women, I’m fed up. But You came, I felt such a relief.” I said, “What is so relieving?” “You are so serene.” So, women are serene in Sahaj Dharma. They are not stupid, frivolous, laughing at anything. That’s not the way for a woman. Anything happens, they must laugh. I mean, there is something laughable, alright, but some things are not even laughable, they laugh. That’s not the way. That can be ridiculous also, can ridicule others. But, laugh of appreciation, laugh of enjoyment, is so pure and creates such a beautiful atmosphere. I think the whole ecological problem is in our brains and your upbringing. It is not outside. It is inside us, which is reflected outside. In Ganesha Puja I’m going to tell you how we are so closely related to Mother Earth and how the Mother Earth and the atmosphere reacts to our behaviour, to how we live. In the Sahaj Dharma, you give up lust and greed very easily, that I know. I mean, if they can’t even give up that, then they should not call them as Sahaja Yogis. The first thing you give up is lust and greed. I find it among young people, now, that those who come to Sahaja Yoga, become really, very free people. They don’t run after women. Women don’t run after men. They are together, they sit together, talk together, laugh together, but it is the purity that is there. In the Koran it is described, that when Kyama will come, beautiful women and beautiful men will be there, but they’ll have no lust and greed, they’ll be pure. It is today, you can see – that lust and greed is finished in most of you – most of you. Automatically it is finished and now you can see for yourself that you are free of this bondage. Then our marriages are coming tomorrow. In the Sahaj Dharma, first thing that is very important is forgiveness. If somebody cannot forgive, then he cannot be a Sahaja Yogi – forgiveness. How this forgiveness comes in is by forgetting the past. Otherwise you’ll go on saying, “This person tortured me, that person tortured me, he was very mean to me, he was that to me, he did this to me.” Shows that you are not of that calibre to understand Sahaja Yoga – because you cannot forgive. What is there to remember? The present is the best. Now if you are sitting here with me, enjoying the Alladha dayini Shakti, that time if you are thinking about the past, shows what? That you are not of the calibre. To be the calibre of Sahaja Yoga, you should be free of your past. Finished. There is no need to confess. I know after Sahaja Yoga many people wrote letters to me of confessions and I just said, “Baba, just burn these letters. I don’t remember. I don’t want to read anything about anyone.” So, there should be forgiveness. If there is forgiveness, you’ll be surprised, you’ll feel very relieved and your married life will be very happy. But if you try to remember something… Alright, some marriages are really, really very difficult, alright, so you get out. In Sahaja Yoga we have allowed complete divorce, but must be with some reason, not because you think something is superior. Now we have banned many countries from where we don’t want to have girls or from where we don’t want to have boys. What is the reason? With experience, we have learnt, they are not marriage substance. Now then, better not marry. And if you marry then live like an ideal Sahaja Yogi. Also, if you are a Sahaja Yogini, then you can carry on very much better by forgiving all the time. Every time, when people tell me, “Mother, You see, You must help me.” “Why?” “Because, You know, my husband doesn’t give me any money.” I said, “Give him up. I don’t mind. He must give you money. Why doesn’t he give you money?” If you talk to the husband, he’ll say, “Mother, she’s very extravagant.” I said, “You better give up Sahaja Yoga both of you and do what you like.”. In Sahaj Dharma, the husband-wife’s relation should be really romantic, should be really beautiful. It is not, you know, we talk of love and all that here, very rarely people fall in love and carry on with it. It’s a blessing if you really get that kind of a feeling. But mostly it is a curse. So to fall in love is very good but that doesn’t mean you forget that you are a Sahaja Yogi. In that, Sahaja Yoga helps a lot, I think, in your married life. Same, dharma is for your children, that you bring up your children – not troubling them too much, but into a free life. Let them use their wisdom. Sometimes I know children go astray and try to follow wrong things. Then you must correct them, you must tell them, it is your duty. They were not born out of the trees but they were born here, from the parents. So it is the duty of the parents to tell them that this is wrong and this should not be done. It’s a very wrong thing, you should correct that and that correction should be in a Sahaj way. I’ll tell you an example. I had a problem once, with somebody coming to me and saying, “Mother, I can’t do without smoking, I have to smoke.” I said, “Better smoke then, but you can’t be a Sahaja Yogi, because a smoking Sahaja Yogi is a funny caricature you know, I can’t think of a Sahaja Yogi smoking. How will I look if I start smoking like that?” “Ah, horrible!” I said, “Then, if you are my son, you cannot smoke, it looks bad.” He gave up smoking, can you imagine? So, dealing with children, always make yourself an example, yourself part and parcel of that event. So the children don’t feel, you know. This is something that I have talked many-a-times. Children is one thing I tell you, they can give up everything but not your love. If they know you love them, they will not accept anything that will make you not love – not love them. This is for definite, because children are the best people who know about love. Of course, I don’t know, I feel that in English language, I didn’t see many books about children written beautiful, beautiful things. There was one book that was published when I was in London: “The children talking about the politicians”, and they published I think, 5000 books and that very same day it was finished. So, talk to children, talk to them. You’ll be amazed, they are full of honey. They have such nice, nice things with them and when they talk like that, then you are amazed how they say things, how they talk of Sahaj, how they are expressing their spiritual strength. Now, we have many very good children and also they are absolutely Sahaj. One boy came and he just prostrated himself before me. So, I said, “Why you did it?” “I was getting cool vibrations, Mother, from you, so I did it.” “You like it?” “Of course! “More than chocolate?” “Of course!” I was surprised. “What… you eat them or what?” “No, no need to eat, you know, you feel so happy inside and I feel, Mother, you are putting Your hand on my heart and trying to console me.” I was surprised. “And where is your heart?” He said, “It’s here, here is my heart, I feel it here.” Just imagine, what love and what understanding of Sahaja Yoga. For these little children who are below even five years. Now, you are all grown up children of mine and I want you to know all the beauties that are within you, that you have to enjoy. First of all, learn to laugh at yourself. That’s the best way to enjoy yourself, you know. And not to spend much time looking in the mirror, that’s another way. You spend too much at the mirror, then there’s something wrong with you. I think, personally, that it’s a kind of a possession may be. So, what you should see inside: “Are we Sahaj Dharmies?” Mother has established Sahaj Dharma, much more than what Krishna wanted to establish. He wanted to establish the Dharma of love which of course we have, but apart from that we have so many other beautiful facets and such beautiful things within our personality that we have forgotten to enjoy. So, the attention should be on your own qualities, on your own personalities and then you’ll be amazed how your personality is giving you joy, giving you Alladha, giving you so much patience with others. To me the whole thing looks like sometimes a joke because nothing so serious. It’s not a Rama’s type that you have to be serious. I don’t have to kill anybody, I don’t use any weapons in this lifetime. Without weapons if things are solved, what can you do? But you must try to see the beauty as Sahaja Yogis. You should be sensitive to see how you have been helped, how you have been guided, how you have been blessed. This is Sahaj Dharma. If you cannot know that, then you live on a very low level. I mean, it’s not the fault of Sahaja Yoga, but it’s your style, you are not sensitive. Supposing somebody does not know that he is burning his hand. So what will you do? He has no sense, he has no sensitivity, he cannot feel. He can drink, he can smoke, he can do everything and still he is existing alright. Must be a rakshasa, I think or I don’t know what to say. So, we have to take an example from other good Sahaja Yogis and not from the bad ones and how do we proceed in enjoyment – which is an ocean, just an ocean. For example, now, I came, everybody was trying to fan. But also in the West another problem is they like to live in hermetically sealed rooms, hermetically sealed cars, they are very afraid of draught, I don’t know, as if they´ll be thrown away or what will happen to them. They don’t want draught. I mean draught is not coming from some iceberg. So, they don’t believe in the fresh air at all and that’s one other reason that people are very suffocating sometimes you know, they just suffocate. They are used to a suffocating life. Once I was in India, I was very hot, so somebody was driving me but the person who was there was from a Western country. He said, “Don’t open – don’t open the window.” I said “Why?” “There’s a draught.” I said, “In this country, in India people live in the open. What is a draught? What draught are you talking about?” You can’t open the door, you can’t open the window, you can’t open anything, if you open anything, they’ll be all dead, you see, as if. So open yourself! As it is about the nature, also it is in their private lives. They don’t want to open. If somebody comes to their house, “Oh, my God, now we’ll have to share the wines, we’ll have to share the foods.” They cannot share. They cannot share. That is most uncollective. But in India, I must say, people have a good sharing capacity because they are still primitive, they are still primordial, yet not gone out of the way to satisfy their own ego. But I think somehow or another in India, people like to share. If you want to please any Indian, you tell them, “Tomorrow I’ll come and have food with you.” His wife will jump. She’ll say, “Now what do you like, tell me, what food do you like?” She will jump. But otherwise, what happens, as soon as you say he is coming for food, the wife will say, “No, no, I am going to my mother.” Immediately she’ll have a programme. I just don’t understand. They’ll have beautiful houses, very clean, very beautiful everything, but if somebody comes to their house, they get a shock as if electricity has entered. So, for whom is all this? To show off, they will borrow money from the banks. Even Indians in America they do. They want to have three Mercedes, four houses, for what? Borrowing money, with borrowing money they’ll do it. Sahaja Yogis have not to borrow any money. There is no need, you can do away with things. Why to have so many cars? Nowadays, people don’t even walk at all. We used to go to our school, my father had a car in India – nothing doing. We had to walk. We used to climb one mountain.It was about five miles the school – every morning. Then in the night, in the evening, the car used to come, you see. And I would walk with my bare feet, because so much vibrations were there, and the chappals, I thought were cutting my vibrations, so I used to have chappals in my hand and walk. One day, we had a new driver, my father sent him. He said, “How will I know who is your daughter?” He said, “Any girl with the chappals in her hand is the one whom you have to bring.” So, it is to enjoy your nobility, to enjoy your generosity. It’s very important. And not to side with anyone. You are not identified with anyone. It’s much better now, I think, because since you have taken to Sahaj Dharma, I’ve seen – English will tell you what’s wrong with English, Swiss will tell you what’s wrong with Swiss, Indians will tell you what’s wrong with Indians. Actually, I learnt from them. I don’t know these things are there. Russians will tell you what’s wrong with Russians. They immediately start seeing, “What’s wrong with us? Where do we lack in this?” Because the collectivity of being in one country, say as an Indian, we see now, what’s happening in India, all corrupt, horrible, this, that. So, I said, “Alright, if you don’t like India why don’t you go somewhere else?” “No, no, no, no, that – we will stay here, but this is a very corrupt government, they are very bad, this, that.” Anywhere you go, you will find immediately they see – because you don’t know they are now chosen to change their country. I have taken up many questions, now, of India and I’m going to start working on that level now. We have already started, in a way, for the destitute women, then for other types of poverty and all that. Just by saying, remove poverty, poverty cannot be lost. You have to have feeling for the poor, then only. But you get with more that feeling because you are an Indian. You are an Indian, so what? Your own brothers, sisters starving. You get that very deep feeling within you if you are a Sahaj Dharmi. So, this is the new Dharma we have established now in this world. A new race, with a new Dharma, which is much above even Shri Krishna’s vision is coming through. He describes in the beginning. I think, He was not a good salesman, because He describes the best first; you see, the salesman first will start from 2 rupies, then go onward to 2000 rupies. But He first told us that you have to become Sthita Pragnya, means Sahaja Yogi – and then Shri Krishna was asked a question by Arjuna, “What is the Sthita Pragnya?” Then He describes a Sahaja Yogi, that He describes before, first chapter, second chapter is that. Now, then the questions start. You know, Arjuna was a great questioner, I think. So, he starts asking questions, “Then what about this and what about that and what about that?” So He goes on explaining to him that, “You see, this is all just a Maya, this is all an illusion you have. Get out of this illusion. If once you get out of this illusion,” because Arjuna said, “They are my relations, they are my teachers how can I kill them?” So, Krishna says, “Nobody is killed.” He said, “Nobody is killed, but they are being killed because they are not following the Satya Dharma, so it’s alright.” What is your brother, what is your sister? They are not following the Satya Dharma, so you have nothing to do with them. If you can correct them and help them, it’s alright, otherwise forget them. First, deal with people who are straight. Like we should say that we must deal with people who are simple, innocent and then you can take to difficult people when you are that good. Otherwise you will come here saying, “Mother, I have caught this, I have caught that.” So, in Sahaj Dharma you, being the Spirit, you also know about others very well and you can make it out, who is who, what chakras they are catching. But the trouble in America, I found that Sahaja Yogis used to, just could go and tell somebody, “You are catching on this chakra.” Now, he has come for the first time and you tell him, “You, you are very egoistical.” He says “How do you know?” “Your Agnya is catching.” Maybe, his own Agnya might be catching. Is this the way to receive a new person? Is this the way to talk to a new person? See, on the contrary, you should say, “Come, sit down, very nice, you are very great, see?” Because they are still ignorant, so they like some sort of buttering, as you call it, you see, we call it chaplusi. Then, gradually, because you are doing this just to make him a Sahaja Yogi, because you love him. Basically that is the reason. But as soon as somebody comes in, if you tell him, “This is wrong with you, that’s wrong with you.” This is not a Pope’s business, where you go on telling people what’s wrong with them, go and confess. To whom? To all these silly people. It’s not that. What we have to show; that you have fallen in love with that person, you are nice to that person because you like that person. Then gradually you pull him up. But as soon as he comes you give him one shot, so finished. How can you have good relations? Americans have to learn this. I don’t know why Americans think they are very superior people. I tell you for wisdom I would not say they are so much. It’s completely lacking – wisdom in them. And they misunderstand people very fast, start judging others, is not the way you can have Sahaj Dharma. Sahaj Dharma is – you are your own. You are in your own, you are in your own realm and in your happiness and joy. Where is the time to criticise others? So the best thing is to show your maximum love to everyone. In that love, you should not show your pity but love which is again: Alladha dayini. This is the message of Shri Krishna but I don’t know how many understood it. Now, what you find those who are following Shri Krishna, like Hare Rama people, they are really beggars on the street. He is Kubera, and his disciples are all beggars, can you imagine. Does it add to His glory as Kubera? So, Sahaja Yogis are not like that. Should be generous, should not bother too much about yourself. Should not all the time think about yourself, but think of the collectivity, how you behave. Collectivity is not to bring – force people to come to Sahaja Yoga. Once they come to Sahaja Yoga they will know the joy of life and you don’t have to tell them anything. Nothing has to be told, just silently it will work and they will feel your love. You see, love is something so great. It not only helps others but it also helps you. It’s so joyous to give realisation to others. But if you start telling, “Your this chakra is catching”, why are you giving realisation? If you don’t know how to give realisation, better not do it. So, to criticise is not the way we can enjoy love. Ah, of course you can pull the legs of each other sometimes, just for fun’s sake, but not to harm, not to torture, not to make that person fall. You are all Sahaj Dharmies, you have accepted Sahaj Dharma and in Sahaj Dharma we have to have pure love of the heart, not hypocrisy, and a sensible life. Now, this Pope is against abortion. I’m not. If a woman is suffering, let her have abortion. The one who is living is more important than the ones who are not living. If somebody wants to have abortion, that child can be born again. According to us, nobody dies permanently, whatever it may be. So, this is one way they use it for propagation of human beings. Like they say the Moslem women are a like a factory. They go on producing more children, more children, more children. So there are more voters. So the Pope knows that. That’s why he says, “Abortion, No.” Christians should not abort, because then there will be less Christians to compete with the Moslems. But in Sahaja Yoga, we don’t have such funny, radical, nonsensical things. We have divorce, and we have also abortion, which is important to understand that these are all taboos which are there. But not for people who have to get out of the troubles – you have to help them. Then that’s how it works. But to be very frank, we don’t have to do abortions, it is achieved by Paramchaitanya. Paramchaitanya does for me. I don’t have to. I don’t have to do anything. It’s Paramchaitanya. It’s nice because it knows what is to be done, how to achieve it. And sometimes you are in trouble, then know that you are not leaving things into the hands of the Paramchaitanya. If you leave it into the hands of Paramchaitanya things will work out very well. So, to understand Sahaja Yoga, first and foremost thing is, how much you are enjoying yourself? How much enjoyment are you giving to others? For that you have music, you have this, that. I was saying that today I won’t speak much, but, somehow, with Shri Krishna you can’t keep quiet. He played Murli, Bansuri, flute. Look at Him. I talked to you, but He just played Murli. He didn’t talk so much, except for the Gita, you won’t find Him talking. And those who read also Gita are horrible people, I tell you, I have met, those who read Gita. They don’t understand what Shri Krishna’s Dharma is. If they don’t understand Shri Krishna, how will they understand Sahaja Yoga? So, for all of you is to practice on love, on forgiveness, on appreciating others, on giving joy to others. Some of the Sahaja Yogis have been very kind to me also. Once I went to the shop to buy a sari, for myself and the sari was very expensive for my purpose. So, I didn’t buy. Said, “Let it be. This colour suits me, alright, but it doesn’t matter.” I didn’t have so much money to buy that. So, that Sahaja Yogi bought that sari and on my birthday gave me – and really, I could not see because my eyes were filled with tears. Just a small thing like that. Normally I don’t expect you to do anything for me, no. But small, small things make you so happy. But even if you do this to somebody, may not understand, may not realize, may not feel it. But if you are a Sahaja Yogi, you will. So thank you very much; for all this that I have said to you, try to enjoy yourself and make others enjoy you. May God bless you.

8/23/1997

http://amruta.org/?p=66271

Weddings Shri Krishna Puja Weekend

Italy

Cabella Ligure

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Krishna marriages - Men Talk- 1997-08-23 [1:20:35] Shri Mataji: Come in, come in. Just come forward a few [UCNLEAR]. Just come forward. How many of you understand Spanish? So somebody can translate in Italian? Is it all right? Hello, come here. Come, come the other side. Come along. How many understand English? I’ve asked not many so they understand also Italian. And English? All of you? Practically if you translate, all right. First of all of My blessings and love. You have yesterday heard my lecture of Sahaja Dharma. You are no more a Christian, no more a Muslim, no more a Hindu. But you are Sahaj so Sahaj Dharma is the religion of pure love. So as you are getting married now you have the greatest chance to show your Sahaj Dharma to your wife. So first of all approaching your wife who maybe are from a different country so have to be gentle and to be kind and sweet. You should not be hypocrites. So don’t talk of your past, anything! And if they start telling you say I don’t want to hear any of your past, finished, it’s over. First of all you should introspect and don’t judge your wife suddenly. So you have to make a very good beginning even in the beginning if you are behaving like a stupid fellow you have lost 50% chance. [1:25:06] Be laughing, enjoying, don’t be very serious. Now after the marriage you have to know you are Sahaj Dharmies. In that way you should see that you forgive your wife if she makes any mistakes and she should also, she will also forgive your mistakes. And listen to them. First time a girl from India was married to a French man and she told me these french men are mad! They are [UNCLEAR], I said why? ‘Because they drink water after eating [UNCLEAR Mother]’. Traditionally in India we know what to eat when and what not to eat. Now here in Italy they make another mistake to take the coffee and then the ice cream it’s absolutely wrong. Hot thing should be the last and you, even if you have to drink water after hot coffee then you must eat something. And when you come out of the heat or out of the sun you shouldn’t immediately drink water. It’s good for your health, I’m telling you this because you wouldn’t like your wife to tell you. But the wives are always worried about your health and they tell you anything that’s good for health, you shouldn’t mind it. You must listen to them. Like my granddaughter got married to a very nice man but she said ‘All men are crazy, don’t you think grandma?’. So she says you look at my husband, he wants to look after my health, he’s all right. But one day I was working so he came after me, [UNCLEAR ‘Go to sleep now, go to sleep, go to sleep now?’ ] [1:28:34] So I asked her, ‘Why did you do that?’ So he said it was two o’clock in the night and she was still cleaning the house. So I asked my granddaughter, ‘Why did you clean the house at two o’clock in the night?’. She said ‘My husband has invited people from abroad and they are coming at six o’clock in the morning and if my house is lousy, they will say that I’m lousy, they don’t say my husband is lousy’. ‘So I have to care for my reputation!’. [1:29:32] So – but if it is loving attention and loving understanding then you can really understand each other very well. Now the problem with the western people is that they are slaves, absolute slaves of time. And we have now crossed the limit of time now with [UNCLEAR Kalati]. But they get after their women, ‘You must come, you are very late for this, late for that, late for that’. Now basically men have to what? Dress up, it’s all [UNCLEAR] they have to wear a pants, shirt and finished. They are ready but for women they have to do a lot. So you don’t have to, you don’t have to trouble your husband for that or for wife. [1:30:56] My husband, he will tell you I get ready in five minutes but all women can’t do that. So it would be miraculous if ladies can get ready in five minutes. In this way the small, small things gather together and fight starts. The men think they are men and they have a real right to tell their wives what they want. As if they are in charge of [their] wives. The wives manage but if it happens to men that the wife is in charge he goes into a lunatic asylum. You have to know that you are all equal in the eyes of God. But they are no similarities, wives are all Sahaja Yogis and you are all Sahaja Yogis and we should have a very good example of husband and wife. Wives are particular say about neatness, the men will fight. It could be the other way round. So if somebody is particular in neatness you can tell that person, there’s not need to be that neat. There are some very particular about cleanliness, women. So men you say, all right I will not have a bath because you are too particular about cleanliness. So it’s a fun, it’s a fun and the relationship should be of two very nice people who are enjoying each other. You can tease each other, it’s all right. I can give lectures to you but you won’t bare any lectures on your wives. If she gives lectures, you can put your hands to your ear side or the other way round. They will respect you if you are very deep sahaja yogis, they will love you if you are really well forgiving as a sahaja yogi. So you must see what your wife likes. What your wife likes. And give her some presents, some flowers to show that you love her. After all we are human beings not animals, we can speak, express our love. Now let us see how many do that very well, to love their wives despite their faults and she loves you despite your faults. There only you will get very great souls born to who has their [UNCLEAR]. These saints don’t want to get married to fighting, quarreling, discussing husband and wife. Then only you can have very good families and your children will be beautiful children. But if you quarrel and fight and think of divorce only rakshasas will be born. Children also, you must look after with love don’t try to, to much pressurised them. [1:37:15] It’s the, marriage is the best feeling when you can show your best achievement in Sahaja yoga. So now I bless you from my heart as I said and I think you will understand what I’m saying, there’s nothing to be frighten of marriage in sahaja yoga. You are trying to marry, most of them are from other countries, so try to know about there country, what are there customs. And only you should not go on boasting about your own country that will not please any one. You are a great Sahaja yogi when you can see whats wrong with your society, whats wrong with your traditions whats wrong with your thinking of your country people. You should not make your wife tired aslo and if somebody is tired, you should say don’t make her tired, take her side always. I sure she will be a very sweet person but supposedly shes beating someone, hurting someone, insulting someone then you have to tell her. They have done my puja’s virgins so I’m sure their attitude towards marriage with devotion. Lastly I would ask you to have some mercy on me also. I receive many letters from husbands and wives describing how their husbands are cruel or stupid or foolish or whatever it is.

Krishna marriages - Men Talk- 1997-08-23 [1:20:35] Shri Mataji: Come in, come in. Just come forward a few [UCNLEAR]. Just come forward. How many of you understand Spanish? So somebody can translate in Italian? Is it all right? Hello, come here. Come, come the other side. Come along. How many understand English? I’ve asked not many so they understand also Italian. And English? All of you? Practically if you translate, all right. First of all of My blessings and love. You have yesterday heard my lecture of Sahaja Dharma. You are no more a Christian, no more a Muslim, no more a Hindu. But you are Sahaj so Sahaj Dharma is the religion of pure love. So as you are getting married now you have the greatest chance to show your Sahaj Dharma to your wife. So first of all approaching your wife who maybe are from a different country so have to be gentle and to be kind and sweet. You should not be hypocrites. So don’t talk of your past, anything! And if they start telling you say I don’t want to hear any of your past, finished, it’s over. First of all you should introspect and don’t judge your wife suddenly. So you have to make a very good beginning even in the beginning if you are behaving like a stupid fellow you have lost 50% chance. [1:25:06] Be laughing, enjoying, don’t be very serious. Now after the marriage you have to know you are Sahaj Dharmies. In that way you should see that you forgive your wife if she makes any mistakes and she should also, she will also forgive your mistakes. And listen to them. First time a girl from India was married to a French man and she told me these french men are mad! They are [UNCLEAR], I said why? ‘Because they drink water after eating [UNCLEAR Mother]’. Traditionally in India we know what to eat when and what not to eat. Now here in Italy they make another mistake to take the coffee and then the ice cream it’s absolutely wrong. Hot thing should be the last and you, even if you have to drink water after hot coffee then you must eat something. And when you come out of the heat or out of the sun you shouldn’t immediately drink water. It’s good for your health, I’m telling you this because you wouldn’t like your wife to tell you. But the wives are always worried about your health and they tell you anything that’s good for health, you shouldn’t mind it. You must listen to them. Like my granddaughter got married to a very nice man but she said ‘All men are crazy, don’t you think grandma?’. So she says you look at my husband, he wants to look after my health, he’s all right. But one day I was working so he came after me, [UNCLEAR ‘Go to sleep now, go to sleep, go to sleep now?’ ] [1:28:34] So I asked her, ‘Why did you do that?’ So he said it was two o’clock in the night and she was still cleaning the house. So I asked my granddaughter, ‘Why did you clean the house at two o’clock in the night?’. She said ‘My husband has invited people from abroad and they are coming at six o’clock in the morning and if my house is lousy, they will say that I’m lousy, they don’t say my husband is lousy’. ‘So I have to care for my reputation!’. [1:29:32] So – but if it is loving attention and loving understanding then you can really understand each other very well. Now the problem with the western people is that they are slaves, absolute slaves of time. And we have now crossed the limit of time now with [UNCLEAR Kalati]. But they get after their women, ‘You must come, you are very late for this, late for that, late for that’. Now basically men have to what? Dress up, it’s all [UNCLEAR] they have to wear a pants, shirt and finished. They are ready but for women they have to do a lot. So you don’t have to, you don’t have to trouble your husband for that or for wife. [1:30:56] My husband, he will tell you I get ready in five minutes but all women can’t do that. So it would be miraculous if ladies can get ready in five minutes. In this way the small, small things gather together and fight starts. The men think they are men and they have a real right to tell their wives what they want. As if they are in charge of [their] wives. The wives manage but if it happens to men that the wife is in charge he goes into a lunatic asylum. You have to know that you are all equal in the eyes of God. But they are no similarities, wives are all Sahaja Yogis and you are all Sahaja Yogis and we should have a very good example of husband and wife. Wives are particular say about neatness, the men will fight. It could be the other way round. So if somebody is particular in neatness you can tell that person, there’s not need to be that neat. There are some very particular about cleanliness, women. So men you say, all right I will not have a bath because you are too particular about cleanliness. So it’s a fun, it’s a fun and the relationship should be of two very nice people who are enjoying each other. You can tease each other, it’s all right. I can give lectures to you but you won’t bare any lectures on your wives. If she gives lectures, you can put your hands to your ear side or the other way round. They will respect you if you are very deep sahaja yogis, they will love you if you are really well forgiving as a sahaja yogi. So you must see what your wife likes. What your wife likes. And give her some presents, some flowers to show that you love her. After all we are human beings not animals, we can speak, express our love. Now let us see how many do that very well, to love their wives despite their faults and she loves you despite your faults. There only you will get very great souls born to who has their [UNCLEAR]. These saints don’t want to get married to fighting, quarreling, discussing husband and wife. Then only you can have very good families and your children will be beautiful children. But if you quarrel and fight and think of divorce only rakshasas will be born. Children also, you must look after with love don’t try to, to much pressurised them. [1:37:15] It’s the, marriage is the best feeling when you can show your best achievement in Sahaja yoga. So now I bless you from my heart as I said and I think you will understand what I’m saying, there’s nothing to be frighten of marriage in sahaja yoga. You are trying to marry, most of them are from other countries, so try to know about there country, what are there customs. And only you should not go on boasting about your own country that will not please any one. You are a great Sahaja yogi when you can see whats wrong with your society, whats wrong with your traditions whats wrong with your thinking of your country people. You should not make your wife tired aslo and if somebody is tired, you should say don’t make her tired, take her side always. I sure she will be a very sweet person but supposedly shes beating someone, hurting someone, insulting someone then you have to tell her. They have done my puja’s virgins so I’m sure their attitude towards marriage with devotion. Lastly I would ask you to have some mercy on me also. I receive many letters from husbands and wives describing how their husbands are cruel or stupid or foolish or whatever it is.

9/6/1997

http://amruta.org/?p=6324

Talk and Evening Program, Eve of Shri Ganesha Puja

Italy

Cabella Ligure

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Evening Program

English

Evening before Ganesha Puja, Cabella (Italy), 6 September 1997 I must thank Australian collectivity and all the other countries which are here. How beautifully they have organized the whole thing. They didn't waste any time with all these programs, you see. They.... You don't know what I must be feeling when I see all these countries which I have visited before, and I know most of you very well. The way the whole joy and happiness that you have received through your spiritual awakening, in the light of your spirit, it's very evident and very beautifully ringing like waves, and waves. It is Sahaja Yoga's dreams which I had, it's more than fulfilled, I can tell you. I couldn't understand that how - right from Australia, then Japan, then Taiwan and Vietnam, all these countries plus the greatest of all is, I would say, people from Malaysia - that we have been able to organize this spontaneously so beautifully. Somehow or other it has worked out, that's all I can say. China - I never expected Chinese to come and sing these songs; it's very surprising. They sang so well. I have been to China, I have never heard such nice songs there; I mean, they were very rudimentary in the beginning I've felt, but this time you find them really understanding what is being sung. So we have people from all over the Eastern side, and also others have joined you. Now this qawwali has completely, you see, made My body vibrate with the same speed they were singing, and I didn't know what to do now. So this is what is love, and with this love we just get immersed. This ecstasy that you were getting into was just nothing but is the bubbling of love. I'm still trying to see how this great assemblage of different culture, religion and nationalities which always bound us to limitations; and how suddenly you find so beautifully here, of all the places - I mean I'm surprised - Iranians, because Iran, you know, is in a great trouble. My attention is very much there and I can't understand what's gone wrong with them, I really can't understand. I would have gone to Iran Myself, but now such a thing has happened that I can't go. No use going like that. But things will work out, you will see. It will work out and the country will change. Its all nonsense will be over. As it is they are suffering too much. They are very poor and fundamentalism, it is eating them off. They are all fighting among themselves. This is no religion, this is no Islam, this is not what Mohammed Sahib wanted. It is very difficult to explain to them or to tell them about Islam, that this is Islam, and this is what is the truth. There's one boy, he's an actor, he's a Sahaja yogi. His name is Javed Khan. He's a very well-studied, Koran he studied very well, and he has brought out all the points which are absolutely similar to Sahaja Yoga. He sent it to Me, he's very brave. I told him, "Should I write your name?" He said, "Yes, what will happen?" He is a, he has a black belt, and there are twenty-five Muslim boys in India whom he has got it with black belts. So he said, "If anybody comes to meet me I can beat them." I said, "You are not to beat them." "No, no, Mother, just few hands here and there, and they'll be on the..." Such a nice boy and very brave, very brave. He's not afraid, and he's living among Muslims only. So I told him, "Be careful." He said, "What is there? They have to be careful about me, I am standing on the truth." I was so happy to hear these words from this young man, who has read Koran very carefully. So we can say now that it's not in different nations we have to think, but we have to think that we are belonging to one world of divinity, and there you are absolutely protected. In Russia when I went there they had a coup. And in the coup everybody would be, I mean, upset. So I asked them, asked Russians, I said, "Aren't you afraid of what is happening in your country?" They said, "Why? We don't belong to this country, we belong to God's country. We don't belong to this. We have nothing to do with this country." Just imagine. But the depth of Russians, I don't know from where they have got it: very introspective and very deep people, I was amazed. And the good news is about, they had a medical conference in which one lady brought a note from the patriarch, means the head of their church, of the Orthodox church, saying that "Sahaja Yoga is not a cult, and it is part of us." So no danger of now - we were thinking that one day Sahaja Yoga will be banned in Russia. It cannot, because we have thousands and thousands of people. But this is the revelation we had by that lady, and I was very happy about it. And American Congress of, you can say, the parliament of America has sent a very beautiful certificate for Me. So all these things are coming from all the sides. And I think even Ayatollah Rouhani, he has said very clearly that "In Islam there are only two ways of knowing the knowledge: one is by studying, and another by becoming the Self. Self-knowledge is the only way and this work is done by Mataji, She is doing the work of Islam." Can you imagine? He's supposed to be the head of the Shiite people. So though Iran is full of Shiite, their government seems to be stupid still, and doesn't want to see the point. What has happened in Kabula or anything, still they are crying about it - it's over now. Now a new age has started and I hope the Muslims will understand. I heard also that in London Zafar has arranged some program with some Muslims, so I would like to see him tomorrow for how are they behaving. I mean, they can't kill Me, they can't have fatwa on Me, that's what they said: only the Muslims get the fatwa. So I'm safe, doesn't matter. Now this is very important, because that is one area where so many are still very blind. And I'm only worried, all of them going to go to hell or what, in the nonsensical idea of jihad and this and that. Let us see, it's a turning point - maybe they will learn it. See, in India most of the Muslims are not even educated. They are so poor, so uneducated; now how to talk to them I don't understand. But this young generation like Javed who have come up now, they are understanding what Islam has done to them is not what Islam is. And they are now standing there nicely, built up with black belts, to fight all kinds of nonsensical ideas. That - I have got that letter, and I would like to take copy and give it to all the leaders to see what he has discussed about Islam, so clearly he has said it. It's only three or four pages I think, four or five pages. But we'll make copy of that and give it to you. We have to worry about them. They are your own. They are created by the same God or is created by the same Adi Shakti, so they are your own; but they are getting destroyed. So we have to see that we really do something just to make them awakened, or tell them. I've been doing it, you see, on My own the way, but you all can talk to your friends who are Muslims and go round, and you can use this Javed's knowledge very well for that. Today's program was mixed with so many things, you know, and the dances they had from these ladies from Bangkok, you know - I have never seen such nice dances, never, and I've enjoyed them very much. But the raga was Indian both times I saw, it was rag was Indian, and also the tala was Indian and they were dancing, I mean like we can say the angels coming on this earth to dance. Imagine, this place I've been there, and I never expected they're so artistic, very artistic people. And art is something is the blessing of God that you all have got it, and I'm very happy about it. Try to develop your artistic talents also to balance, balance the right side. Right side is too much, that's no good. So artistic talents will help you. Also the way you enjoyed music shows that you all are blessed with the appreciation of music. I also feel that Sahaja yogis should have all kinds of talents which are artistic and they should get those talents, only not in music - art, dancing, in every way. All these, you see, things are so encouraging to others that they also want to do the same what you are doing, you see. But for qawwali I must say you are masters now, really. One qawwal has died already and now I see other qawwals coming up very well, and young ones - so, so much impressive, so much. And this mood should remain forever with us. Have I missed any country? All right. Now, another attention has to be paid to America. Americans are very childish people, I must say. They are not grown up. Very childish, and they also require attention from you. Because now you are becoming global. So you have to pay attention to them also, not Australia or say Taiwan, but to the people who are lacking in Sahaja Yoga, you have to attend to them. For Americans I think music is the way we can approach America very well, if we can sing well and dance well. About dancing I must say you all are in ecstasy, so there's no rhythm needed, nothing needed, you are in ecstasy. But still it's better to learn steps. I must say Hamid is great for that. He's so light-footed, I'm amazed at him; he's very light-footed. So you have to learn from him how to dance, he's very good, and I think we'll have more people who will teach you how to dance. But ecstasy dance is different. But otherwise we can have classical dancing, and you must have seen in India they play legim with such a light foot, you see, and that's the blessing, such a big blessing for people to express themselves. I mean, Sahaja Yoga has spread in every sphere and there are many people who have come. I would say that we got a very famous man called as Klaus Nobel. But his son is another remarkable one. I was amazed the way he took to Me, took to Sahaja Yoga. When I came to Berkeley he was standing at the airport near the gate, and with a flower. As soon as he saw Me he was just stunned. He didn't give Me flowers, nothing, just stunned. For two minutes he didn't know what he was doing - so deep he is. Spoke very well, and he is organizing many things. He's a very nice young person we have got now with us. Now I think America's stupidity is going to finish and they are going to take to Sahaja Yoga, because all these stupid and what you can call those false gurus are no more. There's one or two left but they'll also disappear very soon. They are using My lectures, they are using My book to impress people. But to give realization they are not there. This is how this life is changing very slowly, beautifully and it will come to its maturity very soon I am sure, that people will accept officially Sahaja Yoga. It's difficult; very difficult it was when I started it, but now I think they have to. I was surprised the way they praised Diana for this - her death, you know. Of course I felt bad also that she should have death; but she had no maryadas. She was a born-realized. I told people she is a born-realized, and that's why the compassion, you know, she couldn't help it - used to meet people, talk to them, do them. But it is England; because England is the heart and anything happens in England - it's such a little place like that - will spread all over. Let many queens die, let many kings die, this won't happen. This is because of England, from the heart, and this lady was so compassionate. Only thing she used to just go and meet people, touch them, and funds she was raising. But despite that I must say, it is England; and also the media which gave her such a highlights before, so now the media is into trouble because of her. But this is what, how Sahaj works. It turns things easily, and her death was also very remarkable. So from Sahaj point of view the whole thing was a big drama: necessary, very necessary to show that any woman who is compassionate, who is kind, is respected so much. I hope now English women will change their attitude towards others; because this should be a big lesson that this lady, because she was so compassionate and good, that she was so much respected. Then, tomorrow I can't say these things in the puja, but today I have to say that I'm thankful to you that we have fifty years of independence in our country. This is - and this fifty years of independence has been so much wasted, because in the beginning it was constitution, beautiful constitution, beautiful people, very good people. I have seen extremely good people in India, full of idealism, full of principles, giving everything for the country. When I wrote this song that time we were all arrested and tortured, and this and that; that time I wrote this song for the glory of the Mother. And that has happened today, because everywhere it was celebrated, and.... But I must say that our country needs, requires very much spirituality, very much. It's the source of spirituality, and it requires spirituality. But when they see you people singing the song of Adi Shakti, they're amazed. They can't understand how can you sing all these things about our country, how do you know? Now one great musician was there in our program, she's very well known, she and her mother. And they said, "We put our head down." I said, "Why?" "Because in such a short time how can they sing so well, with such beautiful rhythm and such beautiful swaras? They cannot." I mean, they used to think these people, they can never sing Indian songs, and they were so surprised at this. And this music has to go on. Babamama has already started the academy; he has already made five huts, he says. And his idea is to get people there to learn. But he says, "In three months they become experts. Something great about these people. Even Indian Sahaja yogis can't do that." What you people can do, Indian Sahaja yogis cannot do. That means there's something very special. In three months one fellow sang Rag Malkauns with Alap, ... everything. I was wondering what has happened, how can this Englishman do all that - Englishman of all the things? My father used to tell Me that "If you want to teach Hindi to an Englishman, better jump in the sea!" That's it, he had, I mean, if it was for Englishman - what about others, I don't know. Now with all this, you see, see your talent is showing your spiritual advancement very much, and that's how you must see. John I know is really great, also Andrew, I heard you today only; and you are all really very great musicians here sitting before Me. And I respect you very much and I hope you also respect this art, and develop it better for the entertainment of others who are not yet such musicians. But they will be one day. You know, I may have to extend the stage here! So that's all right for today; tomorrow we'll have puja at five o'clock. It's very cold now. It used to be quite hot so we thought, better have it at nine o'clock, but I think we'll have the puja at five. And tomorrow I'm going to tell you really something very deep, so come prepared for that. Thank you very much, thank you. May God bless you.

Evening before Ganesha Puja, Cabella (Italy), 6 September 1997 I must thank Australian collectivity and all the other countries which are here. How beautifully they have organized the whole thing. They didn't waste any time with all these programs, you see. They.... You don't know what I must be feeling when I see all these countries which I have visited before, and I know most of you very well. The way the whole joy and happiness that you have received through your spiritual awakening, in the light of your spirit, it's very evident and very beautifully ringing like waves, and waves. It is Sahaja Yoga's dreams which I had, it's more than fulfilled, I can tell you. I couldn't understand that how - right from Australia, then Japan, then Taiwan and Vietnam, all these countries plus the greatest of all is, I would say, people from Malaysia - that we have been able to organize this spontaneously so beautifully. Somehow or other it has worked out, that's all I can say. China - I never expected Chinese to come and sing these songs; it's very surprising. They sang so well. I have been to China, I have never heard such nice songs there; I mean, they were very rudimentary in the beginning I've felt, but this time you find them really understanding what is being sung. So we have people from all over the Eastern side, and also others have joined you. Now this qawwali has completely, you see, made My body vibrate with the same speed they were singing, and I didn't know what to do now. So this is what is love, and with this love we just get immersed. This ecstasy that you were getting into was just nothing but is the bubbling of love. I'm still trying to see how this great assemblage of different culture, religion and nationalities which always bound us to limitations; and how suddenly you find so beautifully here, of all the places - I mean I'm surprised - Iranians, because Iran, you know, is in a great trouble. My attention is very much there and I can't understand what's gone wrong with them, I really can't understand. I would have gone to Iran Myself, but now such a thing has happened that I can't go. No use going like that. But things will work out, you will see. It will work out and the country will change. Its all nonsense will be over. As it is they are suffering too much. They are very poor and fundamentalism, it is eating them off. They are all fighting among themselves. This is no religion, this is no Islam, this is not what Mohammed Sahib wanted. It is very difficult to explain to them or to tell them about Islam, that this is Islam, and this is what is the truth. There's one boy, he's an actor, he's a Sahaja yogi. His name is Javed Khan. He's a very well-studied, Koran he studied very well, and he has brought out all the points which are absolutely similar to Sahaja Yoga. He sent it to Me, he's very brave. I told him, "Should I write your name?" He said, "Yes, what will happen?" He is a, he has a black belt, and there are twenty-five Muslim boys in India whom he has got it with black belts. So he said, "If anybody comes to meet me I can beat them." I said, "You are not to beat them." "No, no, Mother, just few hands here and there, and they'll be on the..." Such a nice boy and very brave, very brave. He's not afraid, and he's living among Muslims only. So I told him, "Be careful." He said, "What is there? They have to be careful about me, I am standing on the truth." I was so happy to hear these words from this young man, who has read Koran very carefully. So we can say now that it's not in different nations we have to think, but we have to think that we are belonging to one world of divinity, and there you are absolutely protected. In Russia when I went there they had a coup. And in the coup everybody would be, I mean, upset. So I asked them, asked Russians, I said, "Aren't you afraid of what is happening in your country?" They said, "Why? We don't belong to this country, we belong to God's country. We don't belong to this. We have nothing to do with this country." Just imagine. But the depth of Russians, I don't know from where they have got it: very introspective and very deep people, I was amazed. And the good news is about, they had a medical conference in which one lady brought a note from the patriarch, means the head of their church, of the Orthodox church, saying that "Sahaja Yoga is not a cult, and it is part of us." So no danger of now - we were thinking that one day Sahaja Yoga will be banned in Russia. It cannot, because we have thousands and thousands of people. But this is the revelation we had by that lady, and I was very happy about it. And American Congress of, you can say, the parliament of America has sent a very beautiful certificate for Me. So all these things are coming from all the sides. And I think even Ayatollah Rouhani, he has said very clearly that "In Islam there are only two ways of knowing the knowledge: one is by studying, and another by becoming the Self. Self-knowledge is the only way and this work is done by Mataji, She is doing the work of Islam." Can you imagine? He's supposed to be the head of the Shiite people. So though Iran is full of Shiite, their government seems to be stupid still, and doesn't want to see the point. What has happened in Kabula or anything, still they are crying about it - it's over now. Now a new age has started and I hope the Muslims will understand. I heard also that in London Zafar has arranged some program with some Muslims, so I would like to see him tomorrow for how are they behaving. I mean, they can't kill Me, they can't have fatwa on Me, that's what they said: only the Muslims get the fatwa. So I'm safe, doesn't matter. Now this is very important, because that is one area where so many are still very blind. And I'm only worried, all of them going to go to hell or what, in the nonsensical idea of jihad and this and that. Let us see, it's a turning point - maybe they will learn it. See, in India most of the Muslims are not even educated. They are so poor, so uneducated; now how to talk to them I don't understand. But this young generation like Javed who have come up now, they are understanding what Islam has done to them is not what Islam is. And they are now standing there nicely, built up with black belts, to fight all kinds of nonsensical ideas. That - I have got that letter, and I would like to take copy and give it to all the leaders to see what he has discussed about Islam, so clearly he has said it. It's only three or four pages I think, four or five pages. But we'll make copy of that and give it to you. We have to worry about them. They are your own. They are created by the same God or is created by the same Adi Shakti, so they are your own; but they are getting destroyed. So we have to see that we really do something just to make them awakened, or tell them. I've been doing it, you see, on My own the way, but you all can talk to your friends who are Muslims and go round, and you can use this Javed's knowledge very well for that. Today's program was mixed with so many things, you know, and the dances they had from these ladies from Bangkok, you know - I have never seen such nice dances, never, and I've enjoyed them very much. But the raga was Indian both times I saw, it was rag was Indian, and also the tala was Indian and they were dancing, I mean like we can say the angels coming on this earth to dance. Imagine, this place I've been there, and I never expected they're so artistic, very artistic people. And art is something is the blessing of God that you all have got it, and I'm very happy about it. Try to develop your artistic talents also to balance, balance the right side. Right side is too much, that's no good. So artistic talents will help you. Also the way you enjoyed music shows that you all are blessed with the appreciation of music. I also feel that Sahaja yogis should have all kinds of talents which are artistic and they should get those talents, only not in music - art, dancing, in every way. All these, you see, things are so encouraging to others that they also want to do the same what you are doing, you see. But for qawwali I must say you are masters now, really. One qawwal has died already and now I see other qawwals coming up very well, and young ones - so, so much impressive, so much. And this mood should remain forever with us. Have I missed any country? All right. Now, another attention has to be paid to America. Americans are very childish people, I must say. They are not grown up. Very childish, and they also require attention from you. Because now you are becoming global. So you have to pay attention to them also, not Australia or say Taiwan, but to the people who are lacking in Sahaja Yoga, you have to attend to them. For Americans I think music is the way we can approach America very well, if we can sing well and dance well. About dancing I must say you all are in ecstasy, so there's no rhythm needed, nothing needed, you are in ecstasy. But still it's better to learn steps. I must say Hamid is great for that. He's so light-footed, I'm amazed at him; he's very light-footed. So you have to learn from him how to dance, he's very good, and I think we'll have more people who will teach you how to dance. But ecstasy dance is different. But otherwise we can have classical dancing, and you must have seen in India they play legim with such a light foot, you see, and that's the blessing, such a big blessing for people to express themselves. I mean, Sahaja Yoga has spread in every sphere and there are many people who have come. I would say that we got a very famous man called as Klaus Nobel. But his son is another remarkable one. I was amazed the way he took to Me, took to Sahaja Yoga. When I came to Berkeley he was standing at the airport near the gate, and with a flower. As soon as he saw Me he was just stunned. He didn't give Me flowers, nothing, just stunned. For two minutes he didn't know what he was doing - so deep he is. Spoke very well, and he is organizing many things. He's a very nice young person we have got now with us. Now I think America's stupidity is going to finish and they are going to take to Sahaja Yoga, because all these stupid and what you can call those false gurus are no more. There's one or two left but they'll also disappear very soon. They are using My lectures, they are using My book to impress people. But to give realization they are not there. This is how this life is changing very slowly, beautifully and it will come to its maturity very soon I am sure, that people will accept officially Sahaja Yoga. It's difficult; very difficult it was when I started it, but now I think they have to. I was surprised the way they praised Diana for this - her death, you know. Of course I felt bad also that she should have death; but she had no maryadas. She was a born-realized. I told people she is a born-realized, and that's why the compassion, you know, she couldn't help it - used to meet people, talk to them, do them. But it is England; because England is the heart and anything happens in England - it's such a little place like that - will spread all over. Let many queens die, let many kings die, this won't happen. This is because of England, from the heart, and this lady was so compassionate. Only thing she used to just go and meet people, touch them, and funds she was raising. But despite that I must say, it is England; and also the media which gave her such a highlights before, so now the media is into trouble because of her. But this is what, how Sahaj works. It turns things easily, and her death was also very remarkable. So from Sahaj point of view the whole thing was a big drama: necessary, very necessary to show that any woman who is compassionate, who is kind, is respected so much. I hope now English women will change their attitude towards others; because this should be a big lesson that this lady, because she was so compassionate and good, that she was so much respected. Then, tomorrow I can't say these things in the puja, but today I have to say that I'm thankful to you that we have fifty years of independence in our country. This is - and this fifty years of independence has been so much wasted, because in the beginning it was constitution, beautiful constitution, beautiful people, very good people. I have seen extremely good people in India, full of idealism, full of principles, giving everything for the country. When I wrote this song that time we were all arrested and tortured, and this and that; that time I wrote this song for the glory of the Mother. And that has happened today, because everywhere it was celebrated, and.... But I must say that our country needs, requires very much spirituality, very much. It's the source of spirituality, and it requires spirituality. But when they see you people singing the song of Adi Shakti, they're amazed. They can't understand how can you sing all these things about our country, how do you know? Now one great musician was there in our program, she's very well known, she and her mother. And they said, "We put our head down." I said, "Why?" "Because in such a short time how can they sing so well, with such beautiful rhythm and such beautiful swaras? They cannot." I mean, they used to think these people, they can never sing Indian songs, and they were so surprised at this. And this music has to go on. Babamama has already started the academy; he has already made five huts, he says. And his idea is to get people there to learn. But he says, "In three months they become experts. Something great about these people. Even Indian Sahaja yogis can't do that." What you people can do, Indian Sahaja yogis cannot do. That means there's something very special. In three months one fellow sang Rag Malkauns with Alap, ... everything. I was wondering what has happened, how can this Englishman do all that - Englishman of all the things? My father used to tell Me that "If you want to teach Hindi to an Englishman, better jump in the sea!" That's it, he had, I mean, if it was for Englishman - what about others, I don't know. Now with all this, you see, see your talent is showing your spiritual advancement very much, and that's how you must see. John I know is really great, also Andrew, I heard you today only; and you are all really very great musicians here sitting before Me. And I respect you very much and I hope you also respect this art, and develop it better for the entertainment of others who are not yet such musicians. But they will be one day. You know, I may have to extend the stage here! So that's all right for today; tomorrow we'll have puja at five o'clock. It's very cold now. It used to be quite hot so we thought, better have it at nine o'clock, but I think we'll have the puja at five. And tomorrow I'm going to tell you really something very deep, so come prepared for that. Thank you very much, thank you. May God bless you.

9/7/1997

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Shri Ganesha Puja: Dharma Has To Be There For Your Ascent

Italy

Cabella Ligure

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Ganesha

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Shri Ganesha Puja. Cabella Ligure (Italy), 7 September 1997. Today we are going to worship Shri Ganesha.It is said about Him that He is the first Deity that was created on this earth by Adi Shakti. As about His creation, you know the story. And also you know how an elephant’s head was attached to Him. Today, I am going to tell something more subtler about Him, Kundalini, and the Mother Earth. He was made out of the Mother Earth, with the vibrations of his Mother. Now, the significance of Mother Earth, we have never understood. Now look at the Mother Earth: She is the one who produces all kinds of beautiful flowers of different fragrance, of different nature, colour, heights. The trees are different. Trees, when they grow up, they grow in such a manner that every leaf, every leaf of that tree, gets the sun. Look at the collective sense which is given to us by this Mother Earth. We have never realized that this Mother Earth…is giving us everything that we want, and the sun helps the Mother Earth – cooperates, coordinates with Her. To go further with it, you have seen that picture where the Kundalini is coming out of the Mother Earth, and half of it is seen. So what does this Kundalini do for us? Or what does this Mother Earth do for us? The Kundalini leaves the Mother Earth as a reflection. And what does She do within us to build us up in which way? So it is the primordial power which is coming out of the Mother Earth. Mother Earth itself acts like a mother. She looks after you, She gives you whatever you want. And another miraculous thing is that the highest tree is a coconut tree and the coconut will never fall on any creature or any human being. That means it’s all-thinking—all understanding, all consciousness, all awareness is coming from the Mother Earth. But we never understand. As it is, we take it for granted. Now what does She do for us, for us human beings? She’s the primordial power. What She does is to build in us a primordial, we can call, restrictions or primordial taboos or primordial dharmas. For example, you see the steel is here. It has its own dharma, it cannot behave like wood. Wood has its own dharma, it cannot behave like silver. They all have their dharma and they are bound in that dharma. Everything that is in the nature has its own dharma. If you see the tiger, if you see the lion, if you see a mongoose, or you see a snake, they all have their dharma, their style, their everything. It’s very surprising, how they are bound by it. Once, in Prathisthan, I went from the other side to My bedroom, and I saw a very big snake came out of a hole. Of course I was quite away from it, but it felt My vibrations and started running away. It fell in the swimming pool and it wouldn’t come out. So somebody went down and killed it and brought his body up there. I was surprised: it was such a big one, about six feet, but it intertwined itself in a very beautiful pattern, surprisingly, when it was dead. All right. Then what they did, they said that, “Mother, if we leave it, it will fall in the water and again it will come to life, so what should we do?” I said, “Let it be then. What do you do?” They said, “We burn it.” So they burnt the snake. But the female of the snake came out after ten days. They said, “There must be a female,” and she was searching for him when suddenly somebody saw her. They killed her also. They killed her, and she also made the same kind of a pattern. I was amazed: a very beautiful pattern of the body going round, like this, like this, like this. Exactly the same, she also made.So I was surprised: how is it that this lady knows how to copy her husband? She did it, and when we burnt her, she was finished of course, both of them were killed. But what I felt is that animals, creepers – those who creep permanently – other people also, every type of animal, the whole of biology I studied, I was amazed that every type of animal has the exact, the same sample of behaviour. For example, you can put the dog in the water, he’ll swim, but the cat may not. See it’s a thing that is built in, the dharma, what I call the primordial taboos. We have, in the same way, primordial taboos built within us, which are dharma. A human being has to be like that. If he tries to be something else, something goes wrong with his life. It’s like, say, if you have a glass [and] you drop it on the ground, it will break. That is the dharma. In the same way, when human beings start deviating from the line of dharma, they get into trouble. But it is only human beings who can do that. They can only cross over these taboos, these primordial taboos, and can become horrible.You see a person, sometimes I wonder what’s wrong with him. He has a nice home, very good wife, everything, then he has a keep [another woman]. What is the need? For a man, it is primordial that he should have only one wife, and [she,] one husband. It’s a taboo, as soon as you deviate from that, something goes wrong. Now who punishes, or who corrects, or who destroys is this primordial Power, which we call as Paramchaitanya. If you can understand that it’s a structure. Say, this is the structure of this hangar. Now, you want to break it, you can break it because you are human beings, but it will be broken. As simple as that. We have to understand we are human beings and we cannot do things which go against our dharma. Now, why the dharma? Dharma has to be there for our ascent. Now man, in his intelligence and his progressiveness, thinks that anything he does: “What’s wrong?” Especially in the West, this is very common. But I must say, for the aboriginal people, or people who are – I mean, I don’t know if I should call Indians aboriginal or not, but those people who were made aware of their primordial taboos somehow, as the animals know what is bad for them, that knowledge was there with aboriginals. Today we are here with Australians, and in Australia aboriginals are so many. I was surprised, most of their words were Sanskrit. So, might be they might have got it from India, or maybe they have gone there from India. So many words they have got which are Sanskrit. So I started thinking about them. Normally, aboriginals – say, in India we have aboriginals: Gond, Korku, Bhil [in Maharastra]. We had a lady who was a maid with us, Gaynabai was her name. She was an excellent cook, but she had her maryadas. All the time, like if my father came, she would immediately cover her head and go in the other room, to respect him. Nobody told her to do that. Their marriage system was also very surprisingly good, and their relationships with the children also were very good. Somehow or other, in my childhood I met many of them because I also had a habit of going to the jungles, where I used to meet them. And I was surprised, they would not drink—this I’m telling you was about sixty years back, maybe more—they would not drink. Very lajashi, means shame of everything. A matter of, sort of prestige, for them was important. They would never steal anything. And I was really very impressed, how these people were so dharmic, so good, and happy. They lived in huts, they didn’t mind, but they were very clean and neat people. It is now changed. The same people are changed so much. I mean, they were like sacred people, I tell you. Holy people. They worship Mother, they worship Mother Earth, nothing else. And I asked this lady, “Why do you worship Mother Earth?” She said, “She gives us everything. She is a just Mother, we live in the jungles, She looks after us, and She is the most conscious person. She knows that we are there and that She has to look after us.” Even to take out some leaves from the trees, they used to think about it. But then the missionaries came. They converted them, they gave them skirts and blouses, and I don’t know what all they did. But Gaynabai did not take; she said, “What is this? Why should I wear a dress like this where the whole body is exposed? No I’ll wear a sari, I can never give it up. Why should I wear this kind of a useless dress?” But when they met with these so-called advanced people, so many of them started living like that. They said, “You have no freedom; you are just bound by something, by someone.” But actually, they were bound by the sacredness, by the divine understanding. And then they started changing. She was all right, her husband was all right, but her son started drinking. This is the beginning of the end. Then gambling, and all other sorts of things he started. Then her grandson started going to prostitutes. And the idea was only that we are free: “What’s wrong?” Now these primordial taboos are in you, built in. They are there. These are existing maybe in a potential state—maybe you have curbed them down, maybe you have turned them out, but they are there. All the time they are there, and that’s what we say, that you are leaving the maryadas. Or else we say that you are insulting Shri Ganesh. So when Mother created this universe, the first Deity was Shri Ganesh. Auspiciousness was created. Now, we don’t understand what is auspiciousness. Auspiciousness is a complete understanding of primordial restrictions, and also of the protocol.For example, in India we all used to do that – though I was in a Christian family – that before touching the Mother Earth, getting up from the bed, we used to say: “Oh Mother Earth, please forgive us because we are touching You with our feet.” So respect for the Mother Earth and for nature is built in within us, it’s part and parcel, we are part and parcel of this whole – we can call it a whole universe.But when you get into this nonsensical idea of freedom, then you are leaving your Mother Earth. Your gravity itself reduces. This Mother Earth has to teach us. While we are plundering, now there’s everything ecology – ecology people are trying. Whatever is outside is also inside. If you want to exploit your Mother inside, or if you want to trouble your Mother inside, you can also trouble this Mother Earth like this. Now what has replaced our understanding is very simple, is that we are paying more attention to money. If you can cut a tree, say, to get money, then it is hurting the Mother. But if you can cut the tree for beautifying Her, then She’s happy. Her discretion is so great. See the way she produces flowers, different, different types of flowers. In different countries, different types of flowers. Like Me, I saw in my country that flowers are extremely fragrant, very fragrant, and She understands so much. Once I went to Australia and this flower you call hibiscus, it’s a red flower, it becomes pink and then red. Imagine: it becomes first pink and then gradually it becomes red. Even the sunflower goes on turning its face with the sun. Now how can you say there is no connection between a sunflower and the sun? Automatically it goes on changing. So these hibiscus flowers are the flowers which we use to worship Shri Ganesh. And the program was to worship Shri Ganesh. On the way I saw so many trees of hibiscus, just flowering. I said, “At this time, so many flowers.” I said, “I think you better get these flowers for the puja.” I went, and when I arrived in the hall, all the Sahaja Yogis had got hibiscus on their own – I never talked to them; just on their own. They didn’t know that it is to be used for Shri Ganesh, but the Mother Earth Herself created at that time. This is the time of Shri Ganesha when you should get hibiscus. It’s very remarkable how the nature is so much within us and how this, whatever it is within us, guides outside and receives the blessings. We are not something separate. This Mother Earth is our home. We have a home in Her, and She has a home within ourselves. I said today that for Shri Ganesha, He had a body of the clay, just ordinary clay. So you can imagine, you can really think of it, how this whole universe has created us. All of it is within us, and when we try to hurt something, then we are hurting ourselves. The intelligence of Mother Earth I have seen from My childhood. It’s such a beautiful thing to know the nature and the Mother Earth. That’s why all the saints, in India especially, used to go and live in the forest. Only in the forest you could see clearly how this primordial bondage was absolutely obeyed. Absolutely obeyed, naturally, by the nature.For us it is difficult. We are rather “free” people. So simple things, simple things like, a woman should be always covered properly in her body. Because she respects her body, she respects her chastity. But if you tell this to somebody, they won’t listen. As you see the evergreens, they are always clad; no leaf falls off. I call them as the females. And the other trees, deciduous, they do lose their leaves, so I call them as men. Because they are men. Here, it’s the other way round, I have seen. I used to go to any party, somehow or another they thought I was a very serene person. You meet somebody, immediately the man will button up himself and the women will open themselves. I said the whole brain from here has gone to this side and this one has gone to this side. It’s so stupid. But even Mrs. Thatcher has said that “it is our culture that women must expose their bodies.” For what? Are they prostitutes or what?So this craze of exposure of the body has become so strong now that even in India, if not on the streets or in the household, but in the cinema films, you see women – really this never happens in India; what you see in the films, never happens. If they start wearing dresses like that, so many people will throw stones. Then all other sorts of – I shouldn’t say clumsy, but very grotesque things happened. Like, I can’t understand man having relation with man, woman having relation with woman, and children, and this and that and that. We didn’t know these things in India, I didn’t know. Why? Why has it happened here? I don’t think fifty years back they used to do that, also in these countries. Why have we given up our sense of shame? And this kind of nonsense that has come into us—I think must be some bhoots in them or badhas in them or something horrible, but this is something absolutely unnatural. Absurd! Then a married man having eyes on unmarried women and unmarried men are having relations. All kinds of things people do. And you won’t believe, this doesn’t happen in India. Really, I tell you, these days it is now sort of spread out, but I would say in good families you don’t have it. Somebody told me there is AIDS in India. Yes, because they take bath in the river. If they stopped taking bath in the river, this will stop. I was a medical student, I have studied, and I came from a very open family, I never knew these things that men can do. It’s stupid. Even in the lunatic asylum in India we have never heard of such reports. This is absurd. You see the children. The other day, Guido gave me a present of a girl who was feeling shy, little girl, you know, holding her frock like this and feeling shy. Shyness is the ornament of women. Children are all shy. I remember my granddaughter, she was once watching one magazine, she was very small, two years or so. So she saw one woman in a bikini or something, she was hitting her: “What are you doing?” She saw in the magazine. “What are you doing? My grandmother will come and give you two slaps. You shut up! Please wear your dresses.” They would not. Children don’t like; have you noticed it? Or I don’t know if they are advanced, but normally children don’t like shamelessness. But the shamelessness has gone to such an extent that to them, keeping nude is a very great advancement. This is nothing. Somebody told me that he wanted to save the aboriginals, but they were so much, so much impressed by the white skin that they accepted everything. But they were even having relations with their own sister, daughter, mother. Competition. These are the subjects; it’s rather heinous to talk about. And I can’t understand how can a human being go to that level. And at this time we have Sahaja Yoga, where you have become aware, aware of your natural taboos. It is there, because I told you potentially it is there. It is enlightened and suddenly you have accepted. I never expected so much, I tell you, but you have accepted it. And not only that, but you are enjoying it, you are practising it. You see the lives of all the great saints. You can’t have something like Diana – see, they are going to call her a saint. She had no maryadas. Oh I have sympathies with her because her husband tortured her or maybe something, but maryadas are very important. How can she be a saint? Now if you become just an ordinary human being who has his taboos, who understands, who is aware, then they will say, “Oh what a man he was.” I mean, that was. He was. He was born like that. So such a man is praised, in the West especially. Also the other way round is that now the majority is the law. If the majority is stupid, then all the stupidity is regarded as great. They have no brains, they have no intelligence to understand how can these things help. Alcohol, for example. I mean, alcohol, it has done no good to anyone. But alcohol, without alcohol you are no good. They won’t talk to you. They say that unless you have alcohol, you cannot talk. And it is so rampant, it is so much in the society that all the parties I attended, except for me and my husband, everybody was drinking, and drinking much more than normal because it was free. They are all poisons. These are all poisons spoiling us completely, from one to another. This one is a taboo now, for cigarettes. Imagine. Why to smoke? I don’t understand, like a chimney people are smoking. But they have no courage to give it up now. Everywhere: no smoke, no smoke, no smoke. When will they start no alcohol? Everybody sees that it’s so dangerous. It is against human awareness. Everybody sees it. You see people falling down, you see people cursing each other, fighting. I tell you, if you stop this alcoholism, all this shamelessness will go away. Because when you take alcohol, your awareness is abated. One alcoholic told me, “When I take alcohol, I don’t see my sister as my sister, but see her as my beloved.” Well, “How do you do that?” “Yes.” But for all social status and all that you must drink. Now, we don’t even understand how our primordial taboos are completely battered by the society we have. The simple thing is that to understand your own self, better sometimes see the stupid people. You’ll be amazed what sort of things they are doing. Because I have seen, I used to be very amazed, what are they? And then to cover it up, to cover it up, they have etiquettes, you know, very elite. They talk in a very special manner, move themselves in a very – I should say, like a trained personality. And anybody who doesn’t do that is out of their sight. They think that he lacks elite-ness. So another idea is that we have to be elite. Ganesha is made how? Let’s see that. Look at Him: He’s by no means elite. He eats like a glutton and He looks at you as if He’s going to hit you with his mace. For Ganesha, there is no forgiveness. When he became Christ, there He developed. I don’t know how it worked out, but as Ganesha, there is not at all forgiveness. Don’t try to ask forgiveness from Shri Ganesha. He’ll never forgive. Even if his mother says, “Now you’d better forgive,” “No, that I’ll not do.” He never forgives. Then only it comes to the point that the Mother has to say, “I forgive you,” then He can do, because one thing about Him is, He’s extremely obedient to his Mother. Absolutely. So if the Mother has forgiven, finished. But otherwise, he will never, never forgive. And that’s why all kinds of these horrible diseases are seen. Thousands of them. Also, if you don’ respect Him, then impotency can come, or AIDS, and all these secret diseases that people have. I had a very bad time with people who suffered from these secret diseases, because Shri Ganesha accepts My forgiveness, but whenever He has a chance, again He comes back. Now see, they are deities with their own dharma. They too have their own dharma. He gives you a lot of things. He gives you mainly wisdom, discretion, understanding, but if you don’t obey Him, His qualities, then He’s a very difficult man. So to tell somebody “don’t do it” is very difficult, but the nature takes respite. If you want to become a patient it’s not difficult, but to get you cured on the Mooladhara is very, very difficult. You do get cured, no doubt, ultimately, but the most difficult disease is from Mooladhara. He is a child, all right. He’s an eternal child. He’s innocence. Despite all that, He cannot forgive you if you disturb your innocence. Mother is just the opposite: She wants to save at any cost, She wants to save people. But not Ganesha. Ganesha says: “All right, you better go to hell.” And hell is in our own lives here, you see, those people who are drinking, smoking, prostitution all this – this is all hell. What else is hell? And He will never save you from hell. Only in your aarti, in Marathi aarti of Shri Ganesha, they say that at the time when I am getting my realization, You must save me. That’s the only thing they ask: at the time of my resurrection, You must save me. It does not say that at the time of my resurrection, You protect me. No. You save me. Because He’s the one who is sitting on every chakra like a vice-chancellor of the university. Even if you have Vishnu on your side, Mahadeva on your side, but if Shri Ganesha is there sitting and He says, “No, not his ascent,” it doesn’t work out. It’s very difficult.So now I am telling you this, that your children are here. In these modern times, horrible things are happening to children. I mean, I think the whole of this negativity is against the innocence. Wherever they get the children, they misuse them, they teach them bad things. Even the schools, everything is so horrid. So then, we have to be careful. We have to be very, very careful about our children. We have to guide them properly, look after them, and let their primordial taboos should be that that restriction, that taboo, that is to be preserved. So if a child does something nice, appreciate it. I’m not worried about a child being little bit, what you can call, a little bit mischievous. Here, they have to be. It’s all right. But if he takes to anything that is anti-Ganesha, be careful. All kinds of diseases can develop, and if they are destroyed in childhood – these taboos – then they are very difficult to revive. Still I have always said that innocence is never lost. Only, there are some clouds which try to cover innocence, and we become rather ignorant about it, that we have done anything wrong. That is your duty. Your society is horrible. Next generation I don’t know where it is going to end up. When I think about it, I really get a fright. The solution is that you have to be careful about your children and their thinking and their attitude towards Shri Ganesha. They are special lovable things for Shri Ganesha.You can’t imagine how He loves the children. And He’s always there to protect the children. If He protects anything, it is the children He protects. And if you people really understand what I am saying now, because if you have to cross this margin of human life and spiritual life, first thing is your Shri Ganesh. When Kundalini rises, Shri Ganesh is quiet. He just supports the Kundalini to rise. He’s the one who also suggests to you that it’s the wrong way you are doing things. He looks after you, but He’ll not forgive you. It is not so difficult. The way people talk about their physical needs and all this nonsense, even the animals don’t talk like that. Try to enjoy things which will give you real enjoyment. For example, flowers, nature, garden. Instead of destroying this nature, try to build it up, try to see how you can make it a beautiful garden or a beautiful place. Every time I am here, I am thinking: what should I do with this land here, which is very barren? How can I change it? All the time there is thought about how to make it beautiful. And in that, if there is innocence, no greed, there is no competition, there is no attachment, but just to enjoy the beauty of your own creation, to see how things are. Out of proportion people have gone, out of understanding. For example, here or anywhere in Europe, you are not supposed to grow anymore fruits. Why? Because the price must be kept low. If you have so many fruits, why don’t you send it to places where they don’t have fruits? They will destroy it, finish it, but they will not do that. So the love and feeling for others is not there, and they destroy if something is overproduced by the Mother Earth just to keep the prices high. Very cruel! They are very cruel still. Only thinking about money, money, money, money.All this happens. So it’s still happening, and I’m sure one day will come when it will all stop. The pubs are the best buildings in the village. Then the way they glorify drinking is the best part of it. It’s all done. You see it. Now, the only thing, I would like you to have a desire, that: let drinking be finished, like smoking. If you think like that, that might solve a little bit. I personally think it is with drinking only [that] you develop all these perverted attitudes. Otherwise if it’s a normal man with a normal brain, why should he do such things? Fighting, quarrelling, killing, violence: It’s impossible to understand how can a normal person do such a thing. Shri Ganesha gives you balance. He keeps you on the proper track. But if you don’t want to listen to Him, you are thrown away. I hope you understand our relationship with nature, with Shri Ganesha, and with our Kundalini is absolutely identified with each other. Absolutely. If you start loving the nature, all these ideas of spoiling your innocence will be finished. I used to write poetry, I’m very fond of nature, but then I told Myself: You have to do work for Sahaja Yoga. If You take to poetry, they’ll all call You a poetess. And I don’t want to have any such position to be a poetess and all that, so I gave it up. And I was a very good sportswoman. I used to play things, I used to be first in every sort of game, and I had championship, this and that. I gave it up. Whatever I did, I used to get into it. I studied medicine, I stood in the first at the whole university. I gave it up. Why? Because I am the Primordial Mother, and I have to do the job of awakening the primordial nature, the dharma within human beings, and that’s what I have to do and nothing else. But for that, I don’t do anything. I am Nishkriya – I don’t do anything. Really, I don’t do. It is done by the nature. Done by Shri Ganesha. Vishnu, Mahesha, everybody. They are doing it.But, then what is the relationship? The relationship is, they are all in My body and they are all bound by their own dharma. And they act. This is the relationship: spontaneous, automatic, like a built-in relationship. For example, the fan is built in, so as soon as you push the button it starts moving. It’s like that. All of them are related to Me, and they have a tremendous protocol, tremendous respect, that if I say anything, they will not finish it. See, this thing is, that very, very deep thing that I am telling you: that you are a human being, that is, there is built in within you are your dharmas, and if you go against your dharma, then you’ll be finished. They’re all built in within you. They are all there, potentially. I hope you’ll understand how important it is to be aware of your restrictions within yourself. So thank you very much, all of you.May God bless you.

Shri Ganesha Puja. Cabella Ligure (Italy), 7 September 1997. Today we are going to worship Shri Ganesha.It is said about Him that He is the first Deity that was created on this earth by Adi Shakti. As about His creation, you know the story. And also you know how an elephant’s head was attached to Him. Today, I am going to tell something more subtler about Him, Kundalini, and the Mother Earth. He was made out of the Mother Earth, with the vibrations of his Mother. Now, the significance of Mother Earth, we have never understood. Now look at the Mother Earth: She is the one who produces all kinds of beautiful flowers of different fragrance, of different nature, colour, heights. The trees are different. Trees, when they grow up, they grow in such a manner that every leaf, every leaf of that tree, gets the sun. Look at the collective sense which is given to us by this Mother Earth. We have never realized that this Mother Earth…is giving us everything that we want, and the sun helps the Mother Earth – cooperates, coordinates with Her. To go further with it, you have seen that picture where the Kundalini is coming out of the Mother Earth, and half of it is seen. So what does this Kundalini do for us? Or what does this Mother Earth do for us? The Kundalini leaves the Mother Earth as a reflection. And what does She do within us to build us up in which way? So it is the primordial power which is coming out of the Mother Earth. Mother Earth itself acts like a mother. She looks after you, She gives you whatever you want. And another miraculous thing is that the highest tree is a coconut tree and the coconut will never fall on any creature or any human being. That means it’s all-thinking—all understanding, all consciousness, all awareness is coming from the Mother Earth. But we never understand. As it is, we take it for granted. Now what does She do for us, for us human beings? She’s the primordial power. What She does is to build in us a primordial, we can call, restrictions or primordial taboos or primordial dharmas. For example, you see the steel is here. It has its own dharma, it cannot behave like wood. Wood has its own dharma, it cannot behave like silver. They all have their dharma and they are bound in that dharma. Everything that is in the nature has its own dharma. If you see the tiger, if you see the lion, if you see a mongoose, or you see a snake, they all have their dharma, their style, their everything. It’s very surprising, how they are bound by it. Once, in Prathisthan, I went from the other side to My bedroom, and I saw a very big snake came out of a hole. Of course I was quite away from it, but it felt My vibrations and started running away. It fell in the swimming pool and it wouldn’t come out. So somebody went down and killed it and brought his body up there. I was surprised: it was such a big one, about six feet, but it intertwined itself in a very beautiful pattern, surprisingly, when it was dead. All right. Then what they did, they said that, “Mother, if we leave it, it will fall in the water and again it will come to life, so what should we do?” I said, “Let it be then. What do you do?” They said, “We burn it.” So they burnt the snake. But the female of the snake came out after ten days. They said, “There must be a female,” and she was searching for him when suddenly somebody saw her. They killed her also. They killed her, and she also made the same kind of a pattern. I was amazed: a very beautiful pattern of the body going round, like this, like this, like this. Exactly the same, she also made.So I was surprised: how is it that this lady knows how to copy her husband? She did it, and when we burnt her, she was finished of course, both of them were killed. But what I felt is that animals, creepers – those who creep permanently – other people also, every type of animal, the whole of biology I studied, I was amazed that every type of animal has the exact, the same sample of behaviour. For example, you can put the dog in the water, he’ll swim, but the cat may not. See it’s a thing that is built in, the dharma, what I call the primordial taboos. We have, in the same way, primordial taboos built within us, which are dharma. A human being has to be like that. If he tries to be something else, something goes wrong with his life. It’s like, say, if you have a glass [and] you drop it on the ground, it will break. That is the dharma. In the same way, when human beings start deviating from the line of dharma, they get into trouble. But it is only human beings who can do that. They can only cross over these taboos, these primordial taboos, and can become horrible.You see a person, sometimes I wonder what’s wrong with him. He has a nice home, very good wife, everything, then he has a keep [another woman]. What is the need? For a man, it is primordial that he should have only one wife, and [she,] one husband. It’s a taboo, as soon as you deviate from that, something goes wrong. Now who punishes, or who corrects, or who destroys is this primordial Power, which we call as Paramchaitanya. If you can understand that it’s a structure. Say, this is the structure of this hangar. Now, you want to break it, you can break it because you are human beings, but it will be broken. As simple as that. We have to understand we are human beings and we cannot do things which go against our dharma. Now, why the dharma? Dharma has to be there for our ascent. Now man, in his intelligence and his progressiveness, thinks that anything he does: “What’s wrong?” Especially in the West, this is very common. But I must say, for the aboriginal people, or people who are – I mean, I don’t know if I should call Indians aboriginal or not, but those people who were made aware of their primordial taboos somehow, as the animals know what is bad for them, that knowledge was there with aboriginals. Today we are here with Australians, and in Australia aboriginals are so many. I was surprised, most of their words were Sanskrit. So, might be they might have got it from India, or maybe they have gone there from India. So many words they have got which are Sanskrit. So I started thinking about them. Normally, aboriginals – say, in India we have aboriginals: Gond, Korku, Bhil [in Maharastra]. We had a lady who was a maid with us, Gaynabai was her name. She was an excellent cook, but she had her maryadas. All the time, like if my father came, she would immediately cover her head and go in the other room, to respect him. Nobody told her to do that. Their marriage system was also very surprisingly good, and their relationships with the children also were very good. Somehow or other, in my childhood I met many of them because I also had a habit of going to the jungles, where I used to meet them. And I was surprised, they would not drink—this I’m telling you was about sixty years back, maybe more—they would not drink. Very lajashi, means shame of everything. A matter of, sort of prestige, for them was important. They would never steal anything. And I was really very impressed, how these people were so dharmic, so good, and happy. They lived in huts, they didn’t mind, but they were very clean and neat people. It is now changed. The same people are changed so much. I mean, they were like sacred people, I tell you. Holy people. They worship Mother, they worship Mother Earth, nothing else. And I asked this lady, “Why do you worship Mother Earth?” She said, “She gives us everything. She is a just Mother, we live in the jungles, She looks after us, and She is the most conscious person. She knows that we are there and that She has to look after us.” Even to take out some leaves from the trees, they used to think about it. But then the missionaries came. They converted them, they gave them skirts and blouses, and I don’t know what all they did. But Gaynabai did not take; she said, “What is this? Why should I wear a dress like this where the whole body is exposed? No I’ll wear a sari, I can never give it up. Why should I wear this kind of a useless dress?” But when they met with these so-called advanced people, so many of them started living like that. They said, “You have no freedom; you are just bound by something, by someone.” But actually, they were bound by the sacredness, by the divine understanding. And then they started changing. She was all right, her husband was all right, but her son started drinking. This is the beginning of the end. Then gambling, and all other sorts of things he started. Then her grandson started going to prostitutes. And the idea was only that we are free: “What’s wrong?” Now these primordial taboos are in you, built in. They are there. These are existing maybe in a potential state—maybe you have curbed them down, maybe you have turned them out, but they are there. All the time they are there, and that’s what we say, that you are leaving the maryadas. Or else we say that you are insulting Shri Ganesh. So when Mother created this universe, the first Deity was Shri Ganesh. Auspiciousness was created. Now, we don’t understand what is auspiciousness. Auspiciousness is a complete understanding of primordial restrictions, and also of the protocol.For example, in India we all used to do that – though I was in a Christian family – that before touching the Mother Earth, getting up from the bed, we used to say: “Oh Mother Earth, please forgive us because we are touching You with our feet.” So respect for the Mother Earth and for nature is built in within us, it’s part and parcel, we are part and parcel of this whole – we can call it a whole universe.But when you get into this nonsensical idea of freedom, then you are leaving your Mother Earth. Your gravity itself reduces. This Mother Earth has to teach us. While we are plundering, now there’s everything ecology – ecology people are trying. Whatever is outside is also inside. If you want to exploit your Mother inside, or if you want to trouble your Mother inside, you can also trouble this Mother Earth like this. Now what has replaced our understanding is very simple, is that we are paying more attention to money. If you can cut a tree, say, to get money, then it is hurting the Mother. But if you can cut the tree for beautifying Her, then She’s happy. Her discretion is so great. See the way she produces flowers, different, different types of flowers. In different countries, different types of flowers. Like Me, I saw in my country that flowers are extremely fragrant, very fragrant, and She understands so much. Once I went to Australia and this flower you call hibiscus, it’s a red flower, it becomes pink and then red. Imagine: it becomes first pink and then gradually it becomes red. Even the sunflower goes on turning its face with the sun. Now how can you say there is no connection between a sunflower and the sun? Automatically it goes on changing. So these hibiscus flowers are the flowers which we use to worship Shri Ganesh. And the program was to worship Shri Ganesh. On the way I saw so many trees of hibiscus, just flowering. I said, “At this time, so many flowers.” I said, “I think you better get these flowers for the puja.” I went, and when I arrived in the hall, all the Sahaja Yogis had got hibiscus on their own – I never talked to them; just on their own. They didn’t know that it is to be used for Shri Ganesh, but the Mother Earth Herself created at that time. This is the time of Shri Ganesha when you should get hibiscus. It’s very remarkable how the nature is so much within us and how this, whatever it is within us, guides outside and receives the blessings. We are not something separate. This Mother Earth is our home. We have a home in Her, and She has a home within ourselves. I said today that for Shri Ganesha, He had a body of the clay, just ordinary clay. So you can imagine, you can really think of it, how this whole universe has created us. All of it is within us, and when we try to hurt something, then we are hurting ourselves. The intelligence of Mother Earth I have seen from My childhood. It’s such a beautiful thing to know the nature and the Mother Earth. That’s why all the saints, in India especially, used to go and live in the forest. Only in the forest you could see clearly how this primordial bondage was absolutely obeyed. Absolutely obeyed, naturally, by the nature.For us it is difficult. We are rather “free” people. So simple things, simple things like, a woman should be always covered properly in her body. Because she respects her body, she respects her chastity. But if you tell this to somebody, they won’t listen. As you see the evergreens, they are always clad; no leaf falls off. I call them as the females. And the other trees, deciduous, they do lose their leaves, so I call them as men. Because they are men. Here, it’s the other way round, I have seen. I used to go to any party, somehow or another they thought I was a very serene person. You meet somebody, immediately the man will button up himself and the women will open themselves. I said the whole brain from here has gone to this side and this one has gone to this side. It’s so stupid. But even Mrs. Thatcher has said that “it is our culture that women must expose their bodies.” For what? Are they prostitutes or what?So this craze of exposure of the body has become so strong now that even in India, if not on the streets or in the household, but in the cinema films, you see women – really this never happens in India; what you see in the films, never happens. If they start wearing dresses like that, so many people will throw stones. Then all other sorts of – I shouldn’t say clumsy, but very grotesque things happened. Like, I can’t understand man having relation with man, woman having relation with woman, and children, and this and that and that. We didn’t know these things in India, I didn’t know. Why? Why has it happened here? I don’t think fifty years back they used to do that, also in these countries. Why have we given up our sense of shame? And this kind of nonsense that has come into us—I think must be some bhoots in them or badhas in them or something horrible, but this is something absolutely unnatural. Absurd! Then a married man having eyes on unmarried women and unmarried men are having relations. All kinds of things people do. And you won’t believe, this doesn’t happen in India. Really, I tell you, these days it is now sort of spread out, but I would say in good families you don’t have it. Somebody told me there is AIDS in India. Yes, because they take bath in the river. If they stopped taking bath in the river, this will stop. I was a medical student, I have studied, and I came from a very open family, I never knew these things that men can do. It’s stupid. Even in the lunatic asylum in India we have never heard of such reports. This is absurd. You see the children. The other day, Guido gave me a present of a girl who was feeling shy, little girl, you know, holding her frock like this and feeling shy. Shyness is the ornament of women. Children are all shy. I remember my granddaughter, she was once watching one magazine, she was very small, two years or so. So she saw one woman in a bikini or something, she was hitting her: “What are you doing?” She saw in the magazine. “What are you doing? My grandmother will come and give you two slaps. You shut up! Please wear your dresses.” They would not. Children don’t like; have you noticed it? Or I don’t know if they are advanced, but normally children don’t like shamelessness. But the shamelessness has gone to such an extent that to them, keeping nude is a very great advancement. This is nothing. Somebody told me that he wanted to save the aboriginals, but they were so much, so much impressed by the white skin that they accepted everything. But they were even having relations with their own sister, daughter, mother. Competition. These are the subjects; it’s rather heinous to talk about. And I can’t understand how can a human being go to that level. And at this time we have Sahaja Yoga, where you have become aware, aware of your natural taboos. It is there, because I told you potentially it is there. It is enlightened and suddenly you have accepted. I never expected so much, I tell you, but you have accepted it. And not only that, but you are enjoying it, you are practising it. You see the lives of all the great saints. You can’t have something like Diana – see, they are going to call her a saint. She had no maryadas. Oh I have sympathies with her because her husband tortured her or maybe something, but maryadas are very important. How can she be a saint? Now if you become just an ordinary human being who has his taboos, who understands, who is aware, then they will say, “Oh what a man he was.” I mean, that was. He was. He was born like that. So such a man is praised, in the West especially. Also the other way round is that now the majority is the law. If the majority is stupid, then all the stupidity is regarded as great. They have no brains, they have no intelligence to understand how can these things help. Alcohol, for example. I mean, alcohol, it has done no good to anyone. But alcohol, without alcohol you are no good. They won’t talk to you. They say that unless you have alcohol, you cannot talk. And it is so rampant, it is so much in the society that all the parties I attended, except for me and my husband, everybody was drinking, and drinking much more than normal because it was free. They are all poisons. These are all poisons spoiling us completely, from one to another. This one is a taboo now, for cigarettes. Imagine. Why to smoke? I don’t understand, like a chimney people are smoking. But they have no courage to give it up now. Everywhere: no smoke, no smoke, no smoke. When will they start no alcohol? Everybody sees that it’s so dangerous. It is against human awareness. Everybody sees it. You see people falling down, you see people cursing each other, fighting. I tell you, if you stop this alcoholism, all this shamelessness will go away. Because when you take alcohol, your awareness is abated. One alcoholic told me, “When I take alcohol, I don’t see my sister as my sister, but see her as my beloved.” Well, “How do you do that?” “Yes.” But for all social status and all that you must drink. Now, we don’t even understand how our primordial taboos are completely battered by the society we have. The simple thing is that to understand your own self, better sometimes see the stupid people. You’ll be amazed what sort of things they are doing. Because I have seen, I used to be very amazed, what are they? And then to cover it up, to cover it up, they have etiquettes, you know, very elite. They talk in a very special manner, move themselves in a very – I should say, like a trained personality. And anybody who doesn’t do that is out of their sight. They think that he lacks elite-ness. So another idea is that we have to be elite. Ganesha is made how? Let’s see that. Look at Him: He’s by no means elite. He eats like a glutton and He looks at you as if He’s going to hit you with his mace. For Ganesha, there is no forgiveness. When he became Christ, there He developed. I don’t know how it worked out, but as Ganesha, there is not at all forgiveness. Don’t try to ask forgiveness from Shri Ganesha. He’ll never forgive. Even if his mother says, “Now you’d better forgive,” “No, that I’ll not do.” He never forgives. Then only it comes to the point that the Mother has to say, “I forgive you,” then He can do, because one thing about Him is, He’s extremely obedient to his Mother. Absolutely. So if the Mother has forgiven, finished. But otherwise, he will never, never forgive. And that’s why all kinds of these horrible diseases are seen. Thousands of them. Also, if you don’ respect Him, then impotency can come, or AIDS, and all these secret diseases that people have. I had a very bad time with people who suffered from these secret diseases, because Shri Ganesha accepts My forgiveness, but whenever He has a chance, again He comes back. Now see, they are deities with their own dharma. They too have their own dharma. He gives you a lot of things. He gives you mainly wisdom, discretion, understanding, but if you don’t obey Him, His qualities, then He’s a very difficult man. So to tell somebody “don’t do it” is very difficult, but the nature takes respite. If you want to become a patient it’s not difficult, but to get you cured on the Mooladhara is very, very difficult. You do get cured, no doubt, ultimately, but the most difficult disease is from Mooladhara. He is a child, all right. He’s an eternal child. He’s innocence. Despite all that, He cannot forgive you if you disturb your innocence. Mother is just the opposite: She wants to save at any cost, She wants to save people. But not Ganesha. Ganesha says: “All right, you better go to hell.” And hell is in our own lives here, you see, those people who are drinking, smoking, prostitution all this – this is all hell. What else is hell? And He will never save you from hell. Only in your aarti, in Marathi aarti of Shri Ganesha, they say that at the time when I am getting my realization, You must save me. That’s the only thing they ask: at the time of my resurrection, You must save me. It does not say that at the time of my resurrection, You protect me. No. You save me. Because He’s the one who is sitting on every chakra like a vice-chancellor of the university. Even if you have Vishnu on your side, Mahadeva on your side, but if Shri Ganesha is there sitting and He says, “No, not his ascent,” it doesn’t work out. It’s very difficult.So now I am telling you this, that your children are here. In these modern times, horrible things are happening to children. I mean, I think the whole of this negativity is against the innocence. Wherever they get the children, they misuse them, they teach them bad things. Even the schools, everything is so horrid. So then, we have to be careful. We have to be very, very careful about our children. We have to guide them properly, look after them, and let their primordial taboos should be that that restriction, that taboo, that is to be preserved. So if a child does something nice, appreciate it. I’m not worried about a child being little bit, what you can call, a little bit mischievous. Here, they have to be. It’s all right. But if he takes to anything that is anti-Ganesha, be careful. All kinds of diseases can develop, and if they are destroyed in childhood – these taboos – then they are very difficult to revive. Still I have always said that innocence is never lost. Only, there are some clouds which try to cover innocence, and we become rather ignorant about it, that we have done anything wrong. That is your duty. Your society is horrible. Next generation I don’t know where it is going to end up. When I think about it, I really get a fright. The solution is that you have to be careful about your children and their thinking and their attitude towards Shri Ganesha. They are special lovable things for Shri Ganesha.You can’t imagine how He loves the children. And He’s always there to protect the children. If He protects anything, it is the children He protects. And if you people really understand what I am saying now, because if you have to cross this margin of human life and spiritual life, first thing is your Shri Ganesh. When Kundalini rises, Shri Ganesh is quiet. He just supports the Kundalini to rise. He’s the one who also suggests to you that it’s the wrong way you are doing things. He looks after you, but He’ll not forgive you. It is not so difficult. The way people talk about their physical needs and all this nonsense, even the animals don’t talk like that. Try to enjoy things which will give you real enjoyment. For example, flowers, nature, garden. Instead of destroying this nature, try to build it up, try to see how you can make it a beautiful garden or a beautiful place. Every time I am here, I am thinking: what should I do with this land here, which is very barren? How can I change it? All the time there is thought about how to make it beautiful. And in that, if there is innocence, no greed, there is no competition, there is no attachment, but just to enjoy the beauty of your own creation, to see how things are. Out of proportion people have gone, out of understanding. For example, here or anywhere in Europe, you are not supposed to grow anymore fruits. Why? Because the price must be kept low. If you have so many fruits, why don’t you send it to places where they don’t have fruits? They will destroy it, finish it, but they will not do that. So the love and feeling for others is not there, and they destroy if something is overproduced by the Mother Earth just to keep the prices high. Very cruel! They are very cruel still. Only thinking about money, money, money, money.All this happens. So it’s still happening, and I’m sure one day will come when it will all stop. The pubs are the best buildings in the village. Then the way they glorify drinking is the best part of it. It’s all done. You see it. Now, the only thing, I would like you to have a desire, that: let drinking be finished, like smoking. If you think like that, that might solve a little bit. I personally think it is with drinking only [that] you develop all these perverted attitudes. Otherwise if it’s a normal man with a normal brain, why should he do such things? Fighting, quarrelling, killing, violence: It’s impossible to understand how can a normal person do such a thing. Shri Ganesha gives you balance. He keeps you on the proper track. But if you don’t want to listen to Him, you are thrown away. I hope you understand our relationship with nature, with Shri Ganesha, and with our Kundalini is absolutely identified with each other. Absolutely. If you start loving the nature, all these ideas of spoiling your innocence will be finished. I used to write poetry, I’m very fond of nature, but then I told Myself: You have to do work for Sahaja Yoga. If You take to poetry, they’ll all call You a poetess. And I don’t want to have any such position to be a poetess and all that, so I gave it up. And I was a very good sportswoman. I used to play things, I used to be first in every sort of game, and I had championship, this and that. I gave it up. Whatever I did, I used to get into it. I studied medicine, I stood in the first at the whole university. I gave it up. Why? Because I am the Primordial Mother, and I have to do the job of awakening the primordial nature, the dharma within human beings, and that’s what I have to do and nothing else. But for that, I don’t do anything. I am Nishkriya – I don’t do anything. Really, I don’t do. It is done by the nature. Done by Shri Ganesha. Vishnu, Mahesha, everybody. They are doing it.But, then what is the relationship? The relationship is, they are all in My body and they are all bound by their own dharma. And they act. This is the relationship: spontaneous, automatic, like a built-in relationship. For example, the fan is built in, so as soon as you push the button it starts moving. It’s like that. All of them are related to Me, and they have a tremendous protocol, tremendous respect, that if I say anything, they will not finish it. See, this thing is, that very, very deep thing that I am telling you: that you are a human being, that is, there is built in within you are your dharmas, and if you go against your dharma, then you’ll be finished. They’re all built in within you. They are all there, potentially. I hope you’ll understand how important it is to be aware of your restrictions within yourself. So thank you very much, all of you.May God bless you.

10/4/1997

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Evening Program, eve of Navaratri Puja, Materialism, Nature and Marriage

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Cabella Ligure

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4th day of Navaratri, “Materialism, Nature and Marriage”, Evening before Navaratri Puja. Cabella (Italy), 4 October 1997. [During the evening program, after some musical performances and a play by the English, the Swiss sahaja yogis acted in a play where they openly denounced the Swiss bank (about its money laundering etc.). Ultimately, they recited the “litany for the doom of Materasura”, the demon of materialism:] “Litany for the doom of Materasura”: This is a world that feeds the Swiss Banks’ Octopus. This is a world where too much is not enough. This is a world where negativity is a plus. This is a world where the saints say: Enough. This is a world where 1.3 billion people live on an income of less than $1 a day and where the planet does not have enough natural resources to sustain, at a worldwide scale, the consumption pattern of Malaysia, leave alone America. PLEASE SHRI DURGA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Durga Namoh Namaha. This is a world where ten per cent of world trade is generated by drugs and narco-traffics, or US$100 billion represents the amount that yearly poisons mankind, while money laundering in Switzerland and elsewhere has become a most prosperous activity, reaching all levels of society. PLEASE SHRI RAKTABIJA VINASHINI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Raktabija Vinashini Namoh Namaha. This is a world where Wall Street sucks the wealth from the working middle class to bestow it upon the rich and where Walt Disney makes you forget all about it. PLEASE SHRI KATYAYANI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Katyayani Namoh Namaha. This is a world where an Egyptian eats at MacDonald’s in Cairo and a Chinese at Pizza Hut in Beijing, because modern consumerism expresses the lowest common denominator of world culture and erases the meaning of national values and traditions. PLEASE SHRI SHAKAMBARI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Shakambari Namoh Namaha. The new multinational entities are experimenting with new forms of dictatorship, setting their production sites in the developing world, reducing to slavery a subdued working class and exploiting children on the altar of productivity gains. PLEASE SHRI RAKSHAKARI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Rakshakari Namoh Namaha. The globalization of production and services allow a few global players to befool us and impose the rules of their game to the mass of unsuspecting consumers. PLEASE SHRI BHIMADEVI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Bhimadevi Namoh Namaha. Vast restructuration endeavours are progressively leading to the eradication of small and medium-sized enterprises for the benefit of gigantic corporations operating on a worldwide scale. PLEASE SHRI CHANDIKA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Chandika Namoh Namaha. The gradual concentration of liquid wealth in the hands of the super-rich is marginalizing national sovereignty and its elected officials, and is imposing a titanic dimension to the ruler-ship of money. PLEASE SHRI RAKSHASAGNI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Rakshasagni Namoh Namaha. Greed raised to the power 108 means the pauperization of the world’s middle class and outrageous wealth for the remaining 10%. PLEASE SHRI DAITYENDRA *, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. * (MARDINI) This has been removed as it should not be preceded by Shri as it asks for the destruction of the entity involved as in “Catholic Church Mardini” Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Daityendra Namoh Namaha. The systematic elimination of alternative economic solutions, unequal trade and financial manipulations are challenging the equitable distribution of wealth among the population of the world. PLEASE SHRI VAJRINI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Vajrini Namoh Namaha. The deregulation of the financial markets has opened wide the gates of Jurassic Park for the large financial predators to roam about and thousands of billions of dollars are created from nothing by speculators to feed their unlimited thirst for money and power. PLEASE SHRI UGRACHANDESHWARI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Ugrachandeshwari Namoh Namaha. The Swiss financial centre works as a haven for rich tax-dodgers from developing countries, and diverts needed capital from national investment programmes, industrial infrastructures and social expenditure to inflate the stock exchange of the developed countries. PLEASE SHRI UGRAPRABHA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Ugraprabha Namoh Namaha. The trend of today’s mega mergers is to marginalize the State, bypass national legislation, manipulate the market, control the economy and, for all practical purposes, finish off the social foundations of real democracy. PLEASE SHRI MAHAKALI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Mahakali Namoh Namaha. The lure and mirage of such a radical concentration of wealth and power threatens to neutralize all seeking of the Spirit, and the deafening roar of the triumph of asuric materialism destroys the hope of millions of seekers. PLEASE SHRI MAHAMAYA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Mahamaya Namoh Namaha. The alliance of mafia, secretive bankers and corrupt managers has infiltrated the world economy and is threatening the ethics of collectivity which provides the foundation for the value system of our entire civilization. PLEASE SHRI VIRATANGANA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Viratangana Namoh Namaha. The enormous increase of financial assets has siphoned cash money out of the real economy and channelled it into the financial markets, building up a planetary gambling casino where arbitrary currency speculation can mount huge attacks against any country which tries to follow socially-minded policies. PLEASE SHRI KHADGAPALINI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Khadgapalini Namoh Namaha. The etheric sophistication of financial electronic circuits has created a virtual world where the immateriality of money has become the sole reality. PLEASE SHRI VISHNUMAYA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Vishnumaya Namoh Namaha. The progressive domination of technology is sucking the blood of the farmer, the artist and the potter, turning the man who works with his hands into a permanently handicapped person. PLEASE SHRI DEVA KARYA SAMUDYATA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Deva Karya Samudyata Namoh Namaha. The information highway leads to the maya web of a virtual world where human attention is scattered, desire is confused, truth is atomized and the soul is thereby reduced to slavery. PLEASE SHRI RADHA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Radha Namoh Namaha. Modern communication can become a domestic [may that mean “demonic”] tool in the hands of a few media moguls and opinion-making tycoons who are spreading their hedonistic world views of power, money and sex. PLEASE SHRI SHUKRATMIKA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Shukratmika Namoh Namaha. The Mlecchas * (from Vedic Sanskrit mlecchá, meaning "non-Vedic", "foreigner" or "barbarian") is a Sanskrit term, initially referring to those of an incomprehensible speech, later foreign or barbarous peoples, as contra-distinguished from Aryas.) of Satan have infiltrated the Internet global village to pour pornographic dirt and filth within the nest of the family and to spread hell’s shadows in the minds of helpless people. PLEASE SHRI NIRMALA KUMARI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Nirmala Kumari Namoh Namaha. Hail, salutations to the Great Devi! Aum, Amen. May there be Auspiciousness, Joy and Peace. May Thy Divine grace penetrate the waters flowing from our mountains to the four corners of Europe and spread the pure vibrations of the Aquarian Age. Salutations to Thee Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Ji, the Resplendent One, O formidable Avatar! We bow to Thee, most pleasing yet most frightful, who has been approached by the Trimurtis for the sake of protecting the universe. Today, in this festival of Navaratri, we chant the litany of Thy children in Switzerland for the defeat of the foes of the Spirit, and we offer to Thy glittering teeth the new asuric forms of materialism. PLEASE SHRI RAKTADANTIKA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Kalki Sakshat Shri Sahasrara Swamini Moksha Pradayini Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namaha. [TALK BEGINS HERE] It has been such a great treat for us, not only entertainment but the way, for our own future, how to move and what to do. It’s very surprising that this Swiss bank business has been attracting my attention all the time. I don’t know much how they can digest everything so well. In these modern times, when people are talking of democracy, talking of very big ideal things and all that, at the same time, how can such an illegal system exist openly? And for that, I have a plan, as Arnaud has said, I have to expose, I have a plan to do something about it. As far as the materialism is concerned, it’s working out. (1.27) All these countries who were supposed to be very advanced, developed, are suffering first from recession; and a terrible recession. That recession is going to give them a lesson about overproduction of nonsensical goods. Materialism comes because people have gone mad with their greed. I was searching a house in England, went round to see houses and I was surprised that all kinds of plastic things and mixed things and all that, were piled up in mountains in every house; mountains! And you passed through a door; you would find two legs of a pant falling on you. But not only in England, same in Paris, I’ve seen people accumulating so much of nonsense, that they don’t know where to put it and what to do. This madness is on, and on and on. Now, I have found out a solution for Sahaja Yogis, what they should do. They should try to encourage handicrafts. Every country I went to, I bought handicrafts. Whether it was Czechoslovakia or England or anywhere. I cannot understand, how can you go and buy this rubbish of plastic, of these useless things. And these handicrafts, when I bought, I was surprised. I must tell you about Czechoslovakia, that there were small, small, very small shops, and they all came one by one: “Mother, buy something from us also. Mother, buy something from us.” You know, I was surprised, such beautiful things. They said: “We cannot sell them.” But all nonsensical things, people are buying. So, for Sahaja Yogis, they must take a vow, that we’ll only take things that are hand-made. You need not have many things. You can have few; but something hand-made. Now supposing you get a dress. There should be some hand-made embroidery or something put on that. So, some labour is put into it. It is very difficult to see how people go in for things which are very cheap and extremely troublesome. I must tell you one thing; I cannot wear nylon. I can’t wear anything artificial. Really, I can’t. For a while, if I wear socks also, my whole body starts paining. So, it is against. Handmade things are few, I agree. But use as far as possible hand-made things. From the Mother Earth, they make very nice, say terracotta. So, I am a socialist by temperament, I think, so I felt a great urge that I should really export nothing but terra-cotta. And terracotta is such a beautiful thing. It’s so soothing, it’s so good, it smells so well. But people think: “No, we should buy something that is made from America, in some machinery thing.” They go on buying like that. In America also, I was surprised that beautiful things are selling in shops that they call “Outlets”. Very beautiful; mostly of silk and cotton. And leather, pure leather. But people will go to big, big markets and buy all nonsense at a very high price, and not from there. Means they have no wisdom. And this is what happens, that the wisdom, if it is lacking in your sense, then this wisdom corrodes the society; because wisdom itself shows how dangerous it is to go on buying these nonsensical things. Also, now you are seeing that people are taking more to Ayurveda and to homoeopathy. They don’t want to use these horrible medicines produced by your great country. You know what they do, Swiss? They send very big offers to doctors from India to come and work for them. And supposing they have produced one sample, as you have shown, then the same one, they change a little bit and say: “It’s better.” And you know, these medicines, most of them are very dangerous and troublesome. By mistake, my family gave Me these antibiotics. Since then, my legs are very weak and troublesome. I have improved, no doubt. So, you see why we are now taking to this? Because pollution is there, another thing which is created by all these machineries. Gandhiji was saying: “There is no need to use so much machinery.” Now, motor car: we can walk, we can use trains. But people want to go anywhere by motor car, even if it is about, say, ten meters. They don’t want to walk. That’s why our health has gone down. I must tell you; when I was studying in the school, my school was about five miles. And we had a car, and we had also horses and what you call as a buggy, in our house. But it was compulsory for us to walk five miles in the morning. Evening time, the car used to come. But morning time, we all had to walk five miles to go to our school. And in between, there was a small little mountain which we had to climb. That is how we learned about nature. If you don’t walk, from the car, what do you know? At the most, you can see some lamppost. What do you see from the car? Nothing. You cannot see the nature. This walking system is very much out of date now for people. People don’t walk. I am not saying that today we are very changed and we are very advanced people. In a way, we have gone down. Because we cannot walk. God has given these legs to walk, but we cannot walk. You avoid walking in the end. Now, because of that, so many cars! I think that in some families, they have five cars, because there are five family members. Specially in Spain, I was surprised. So many cars, so many cars, and every car has only one person. Now the problem has started with the pollution and all these things, because we have lost the habit of depending upon ourselves. Now, see what happened in, say, Kuala Lumpur and all these places, suffering from what you call the ( smoke) smog. Now, I have not done it, if you think that way. And they pray to Allah: “Give us water.” Why would God give them water if they are doing all kinds of nonsensical things? Now, there is the smoke going on. Why? Because they have cut the trees. Why do they want to cut the trees? Because they want to make money. That’s all. And their wood is coming to India, because in India also, they have cut the trees. If you go on like this, mad, you’ll have pollution, means what? Is that destructive forces will act and stop it. For that, you don’t have to pray to Goddess. It will work out. And it’s all working out everywhere. So, whatever you have to have, try to have something which is handmade. Even your clothes need not be many, try to have it which are handmade. It’s one of the things Sahaja Yogis can do. They need not be- to send money to this Swiss bank also. This Swiss bank will be very badly exposed now, I’m angry with them for one more thing: that they had promised that they would give the money to the Jews, and now they are going like this, they don’t want to give. When they will die, are they going to take it with them? All these sins will be punished. And that is why I am very happy that he has brought it, because I have been talking about it even in that conference I went to in China, I talked openly about the Swiss Bank. I have talked to many magistrates and to many, what do you call them: the head of the Law Ministry and all that, and I told them: “Why not, we have a conference and say that this banking is nonsense?” Now, all types of bad people are taking advantage of this system and are trying to make money, look very nice, or I don’t know. So many have lost their money there. I don’t know what was the need to put all this money there, that when they die, their children do not get anything. But the problem is this greed, it’s some sort of an inner defect in the human being. He becomes greedy; greedy, because he has deviated from dharma. He thinks he can get pleasure out of things. He cannot. And he goes on accumulating and buying, and this and that. I would say, your Mother also does that: I buy. But I buy things that are handmade. So that tomorrow, if I have to give it as presents, or if I have to sell off things, even the ornaments you have given Me, I didn’t know what to do, I am selling them. What will I do with the ornaments? I have to buy so many ashrams, this, that. My family ornaments also I am selling. Because I spend money on my family things also. This is, just think of it, what is all this for? What pleasure does it give us? I can understand, if you want to give somebody a present, or somebody you want to give some happiness, joy, you should do it. But just for yourself, go on, go on, how much can you digest it? You cannot. Joy is much more in giving to others. It’s not a thing that gives you any understanding of the fundamentals. The fundamentals is that you are dharma. Within you is that, that is your valency. And this materialism is absolutely against it. Because it creates all kinds of people: mafias, the Swiss bank, the cheats. We have communities after communities who are known to be cheats, who are very materialistic. They have no spiritual sense. So, for Sahaja Yogis, I would say- of course, you have said all the mantras, so I am supposed to do all that. But what you have to do is not to buy any more anything which is not handmade. Try it. At least, there should be some embroidery, at least there should be some work done on it. I am surprised that these things are not so very good for us, they are injurious to our health. So, Sahaja Yogis must learn that they have to walk. They must walk. And they must see the nature, what is in the nature. Many of you don’t know, say, I asked the name of this flower; how many of you know? It’s a very sweet name: “kiss me quick”, apart from its botanical name. But it is, you see, what I am saying, everything you should know. You should know about small, small things: from where this embroidery comes, from where the sari comes. Our Indian men are the worst. I would say, they don’t know anything whatsoever. But even Western men also have the same problem. You must take interest in things in which you have not taken interest. For example, Indians don’t know how to cook. They don’t know. Once, my husband told Me that he knows how to cook. I said: “What?” He said: “I’ll make chapatis.” And what he made was nothing: Australia, America, this, that. But he said: “I give up. Because I was doing shipping, thus shipping means shipping.” But minute things, you can see, what we call, is a subtle vision, subtle eyesight. If you walk, look at the nature, love the trees, love the animals. You’ll be amazed, there are so many things to be known, than reading newspaper. What is there to read in the newspaper? For hours together, you go on reading newspaper, next day you forget it. You’ll be amazed that, for Goddess it is said that: “Kataksha, kataksha, niriksha.” “Every glance, She knows everything.” Any glance She puts on any man, woman or anything, She knows where it is. And if you are my children, you should also try that. Because I always used to run out in the jungles, in the forests, I used to go to all such places, I really enjoy the beautiful Mother, this Mother Earth who has created such a beautiful thing. Have you noticed just now that the colours of the background which was made by the Russians, and the colours of this facing thing, are just the same? They have used the same colours. It’s through collectivity. Now, you notice, in the nature, it’s so matching, you know; nothing gross, nothing loud. It’s so beautiful: this is red, but it has green to match it. This Mother Earth knows everything, She understands everything, She does everything. But what do we do for Mother Earth? It is to run after artificial things, machinery, this thing. And now, a new thing has come, it’s computer. It’s alright if you want to write letters to someone. But otherwise, it’s quite maddening. And this computer will make our brain absolutely zero. It will be paralyzed; we won’t be able to think two plus two. So, anything that you want to use, also, should have its maryadas. Don’t go beyond it. If you take to swimming, you’ll go on swimming till you get sick. If you are horse-riding, you will go on horse-riding till you fall down. See, this is also a kind of a life which has no maryadas. Like greed has no maryadas, that’s how all these kinds of nonsense: “I’m only fond of this, I’m only fond of this”. You are a human being; you should never say like that. On the contrary, you should say: “I must learn this; I must know this. What is this all about?” It is very important. Otherwise, your personality will be a dwarf personality. And ultimately, people end up in money. I don’t understand. I cannot even count two hundred notes. Cannot even. I don’t know about money, I should say. But I am good at mathematics. But I don’t know. Whatever money you are giving goes direct to them, and they do with it whatever they like. And somebody says: “How much you got for this?” “I don’t know.” “How much for royalties?” “I don’t know.” Because I am not interested. I am not interested. What is there to be so much interested in money? But I get money alright, no problem; never a problem. I sold one of my ornaments and I got at least one hundred times more than I have spent. Maybe you might say it is vibrations, whatever you may say. So, to get after money means you get very much in the clutches of money. So, what is the solution to get rid of this greed? It is to try and give it to others and see the joy. Give something to others. Share and see the joy you feel by giving something. I must tell you, Grégoire isn’t here but I am missing him, because once I went to a sari shop and wanted to buy one sari. But I thought it’s rather expensive. Why should I buy such an expensive sari? Came away. And you’ll be amazed, he gave Me the same sari on my birthday. And I was so thrilled with joy! Because he bought it; next day he went and bought it from that shop, kept it with him and on my birthday, he gave it to Me. These small, small things can give you great joy, in giving people, other people, not yourself. I don’t know if I have bought anything much for myself in my lifetime; never. Even if I go out shopping and I am thirsty, I don’t even buy one coca cola for myself. People know I don’t buy anything for myself; Practically nothing, but you all give Me so much, what to do? Now, I have decided that after these seventy-five years of age, I shouldn’t take anything from you, whatsoever. But to please you maybe, they are asking that only take national, international… “Alright, but no more. Every country shouldn’t bring. After all, there is national, international, you are all international people, what is the need to bring any present for Me? I don’t even have time to see them. I am so very busy with other things, because there are so many problems in this world. So, I would suggest that, to get over all these things, we should see ourselves what are we doing about it? I am sure none of you have money in the Swiss bank, thank God. But never earn more than you have; there is no need. Whatever comes your way, is alright. Of course, if you are doing some work of creativity, of creating some designs, of creating something, it is alright. But don’t buy, go on buying things for yourself or putting the money here, hiding, hiding there. There is no need. You see, you’ll be so satisfied and so happy being honest, being absolutely beyond any problems. Now this Mafia business is there, I agree with you. Now, this Mafia can be controlled only by the government, because they give such a big tax. Now for example, an artisan, in this poor country, I will say poor because most of the people are suffering from tax; here, you have to pay two hundred and sixty-five types of taxes. Italians are known for their art. They make beautiful things. But they cannot, because they have to pay so much taxation. Only the designers, they make the money. Designers make the money, befooling everybody. They befool people so much! Once, my husband went to Cairo and got one scarf for Me. So, he said: “This is designer’s”. I said: “This looks Indian to Me; this is an Indian thing.” And surprisingly, in the corner is written “made in India”. He paid twenty-five pounds for that, and in India, you can get it for two pounds. So, this is another thing, to run a race of eliteness. You see, this one was bought by my son-in-law. I said: “What is so special?” “This is very great, you know.” I didn’t know what was so special about those spectacles. So, I went to one shop in America, and they all started saying: “Madam, madam, madam…” What is so “madam” about Me? Why are they calling Me “madam”? “Oh, you don’t know?” they said. “This is Cartier!” I said: “What is Cartier?” So, I am going to put “Kartikeya against him”. [Laughter.] All such stupid ideas. You see, and then, they bought Me a watch “Patek Philippe”. That watch, they bought for Me. And it would not run-in time. I said: “What is this? It never keeps the time. It’s always out of time.” My vibrations must be doing some tricks. So, I gave it to one of them and I said: “Baba, show this thing to the Patek Philippes.” (27.14) Ah, that time, Mathias was there. “This will hit their ego, Mother, very much.” I said: “Why?” “Because they think they are the best.” I said: “Whatever it is, tell them to change it, it doesn’t keep time.” Then I asked my daughter to have it. I said: “Baba, I don’t know why, I think maybe I am going to have something simple.” That again turned out to be what you call “designer’s”. They are now, most of these designers are in jail. And some of them met Me when I was coming from Russia. They are absolutely useless people. They take out some idea and sell it for a high price. If you are a fool, you go and buy that. Did you notice that this is Cartier? For Sahaja Yogis are simple people. Now, the thing is these are also Mafias. I tell you these are also Mafias, and these Mafias are exploiting you, I have written it in my book also, if you read it, how these entrepreneurs are trying to befool you. You wear a simple dress, simple, hand-made, will be much better than wear something that will make you look like something out of the blue. And there is no need, because it is just satisfying your ego. Some people have a habit, as soon as… say I have, supposing, some dinner set. They’ll come and see the back of the dinner plates: “Ah, from where did you get?” “I don’t know. I think somebody gave Me; I don’t know, I don’t know.” “No, no, you’d better find out, because it’s very nice.” Next day, they’ll go round the whole place, to find out if they can get the same dinner set. And Sahaja Yoga is just opposite, I tell you; you depend on Sahaja Yoga. Once, my husband liked one tea set. So, you know, London has big, huge big stores. Some of them are really horrid. I went there; we walked and walked and walked through so many! They said: “Alright, we promise after six months.” Another said: “Seven months.” Another said: “Eight months.” I gave up the idea. Then C.P. said, “What happened to their factories?” I said, “They don’t have anything, they are exporting.” Then I went to Australia, you’ll be amazed. And there, for a special price, just for propagating, they have put these tea sets there. Imagine, in Australia! And I got it for the half price. So, if you don’t have greed, you get what you want, just there. Just there you get it. But if you have greed, then God makes you dance. Alright. That is so simple as that. Whatever you want, you can get it if you don’t have greed about it. That’s such an enslaving thing within us, that we have greed! I mean, I can give you a thousand and one examples about that. Thousand and one. That if you don’t ask for anything, don’t desire for anything, you get what you need. Whatever you need, you get. But if you go on desiring, if you go mad after it, go there, get these, and get lost. And then, the thing also gets lost. That’s why it’s said, better try to develop a detachment. It’s alright if it is there, very good; if it is not there, it doesn’t matter. Then you’ll be surprised, your attention will be so subtle. Now, none of you, I think, has seen these beautiful flowers, that are here. The beautiful embroidery that is there; the way they have done this. Now, can you tell Me how many there are hands in this one? Fourteen; twenty-eight. This side – fourteen, this side – fourteen. I mean inclusive of all these other things. So, you don’t notice anything. And your attention becomes in the Mahamaya. This is no explanation; your attention, if it is clear and simple, you can see the things clearly. And with that attention only, that attention yourself takes you to the right place you have to go, you get the right thing, what you have to buy. Can you tell Me, these carpets are from where? They are mostly from Russia. I went to Russia and I saw this carpet factory. They have no sense of export, also. So, I told them: “How much will a carpet cost?” They said: “Only twenty dollars.” I said: “Baba, only twenty dollars for a carpet?” So, I told doctor: “What to do, now we have to buy many.” I said: “How much for export?” “Two hundred dollars.” I said: “In India, it’s the other way round: if you have to export something, then the price is less.” I said: “Alright, so I guess we must think of a solution”, because I needed. So, I asked about twenty Sahaja Yogis to buy each, one. To Russians, they give for twenty dollars. I said: “Alright, you bring this.” So, you should go in for solutions, and not for problems. Greed is a problem. How do you get rid of the greed is the point? And to get rid of the greed, if I buy something, “For whom should I buy this one? For whom should I buy? Ah, this would be alright for another friend of mine.” Like that; if you train your mind along these lines, not for yourself, but for others, you will be amazed, this greed will run away. And you’ll have joy. As you want to give Me things, I understand that. I also want to give you. In the same way, think of all others. They are all brothers and sisters. From other countries, make friends with other countries. If giving is there, then this greed goes away; and you get what you want. It’s a very simple mantra. It’s surprising, so far, with all the miracles, we don’t understand that whatever we need, will also be provided for all. But you must need it. Not for stupid collection of things. This was a very, very good thing, acted very well, I enjoyed it thoroughly, this Swiss bank laundering. I know, my country suffers from it. Now, the other drama which was done by the English, “The Pilgrim’s Progress”, is an old, quite an old drama, which I have read long time back. But this is the real pilgrims, they have shown how a seeker goes into wrong ways, methods; and throughout, they very nicely brought in how, even a Sahaja Yogi, while rising, falls into different pits. It’s a very good thing for you to know that, if you are a Sahaja Yogis, you should be very careful and you should see that you don’t fall into these pits, and ultimately the ego and superego. (36:38) In the west the problem is more of ego, not of superego. And for ego, to accept that you have ego is the only way; and then it will drop out. If you know there is ego, ego will drop out. The simple thing is to know that you have ego; ego of something. People have ego of any nonsense, you know. There was one lady, very proud and egoistical. So, I asked about her, what is the matter with her. “Because she knows how to make dolls.” Why, that should give you ego, or what? I didn’t understand that part. But this is what it is. Even for small things, people have ego. And all this designing and all that, is based on your stupid ego, which makes you buy all this to show off your ego. So, try to be humble; humble, and try to understand that all these worldly things, we are not going to take them with us. They are going to lie down here. I am not saying, you renounce. I am not saying you take sanyasa. But you should know that the value of these things is nothing compared to you. When ego comes, this idiocy comes in. You think, by wearing something great, you can very much influence others. You may, but those who are influenced are another set of fools, I must say. Once I was wearing a ring and I went shopping in one of the places. And they were so respectful to Me, I said, “Suddenly, the shopkeepers, they never respected Me because I am an Indian, what has happened?” So, I had gone to a shop where the lady was known to Me. She said: “May I ask you, is this real?” I said: “What do you mean, real?” “Is it real emerald?” “Yes, yes, very old, from my family.” “Ah, is your family very rich?” “No, no, it was from my forefather. I am just wearing that.” “My God, if it is real, what will be the price?” “How will I know? It was bought a long time back. I don’t know the price.” “No, can you get me one?” “Why do you want to have it? You can have this one if you like.” Like that, you know, a small thing makes them think that you are so great. What is the greatest thing within us is our Spirit? The Spirit that we have. And we should know that we should be proud of it, that we have got the Spirit within us. And if we will be proud, we will not do nonsensical things. You are people who are all realized souls. And already you have crossed over this pilgrim stage; you are much above that. Now, the greatest thing is to know that we are spiritual people, and as spiritual people, you even dominate Me, in a way. If you all desire for something, I cannot get over it. I have to accept. I have to keep you pleased. Many things I am doing just because you want it. Doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter to Me because nothing comes over my head. So, it’s alright. Whatever the children want, let them do it. But the one point is, this ego has to be really under control. There is one little more point, I would like to tell you; because tomorrow, I may not be able to say, in Navaratri, you see, I am bound by other things. Is this, I wanted to talk to people who are married in Sahaja Yoga, especially to the ladies. I think some of them are extremely dominating and stupid. What is marriage? Marriage is honey-moon, as they call it. Honey is the essence and moon is the peace. Now, if the women are quarrelsome, fighting, sarcastic, it is absolutely a hell for men. Instead of that, if woman knows the essence, the honey, she should know how to please the husband, to bring peace in the family. Now, some of the husbands are drunkards, or anything. Not in Sahaja Yoga. What pleases the husband, you see, in a way, it’s a trick. It’s a trick of a Realized soul: how to please others. What do we do to our husbands? Do we try to please? First of all, try to find out what he likes. My husband, I would say, he is gone away, thank God, he used to say, “You shouldn’t wear any flower in Your head.” But in Maharashtra, all the married women are supposed to wear flowers. Since that day, I never wore any flower in my head. It’s alright, it doesn’t matter. He didn’t know what I was, so he said: “Don’t wear any flowers.” I don’t wear. Then he said: “You must wear bangles.” Because he comes from a very traditional family. All my life, I wore bangles. It pleases him, what’s the matter? Little, little things you do, just to please him. Then he also starts thinking, “What should I do for my wife?” But first, it must start from women, not from men. Because women are responsible for the society. In the Western culture, they are not told what their job is. Man’s job is economics, politics, money-earning. They have made a mess out of it, I agree with you, quite a big mess. But your job is to make the society. And to make the society, first you must know how to keep children pleased, how to keep your husband pleased, how to help people. On the contrary, if you try all the time to dominate, that’s not your job to dominate at all. Your job is to make, neutralize his domination. By simple, simple things. I’ll give an example. Thank God he is not here. He knows I am very clever in certain things. In his office, he had a gentleman. I never used to interfere with his office, but there was one gentleman, a good one, who gave up his organization and joined another one; because it was a private one, he was getting more money, so he joined it. But he found it was horrible. So, he wanted to come back to the shipping corporation. But my husband is very particular about rules and regulations. He said, “No, no, no! Now I won’t have you. Get out!” So, he came to Me. Normally, I never interfere. He came to Me and he said: “If you tell him, he might listen.” I said, “No, if I tell him, he will never listen! But I know how to do it.” So, I told him that this gentleman had come to see Me. “Ha, so he has come to the right person. Now, are you going to trouble me about it?” “No, no, no. Not at all! But just think why he came to Me?” He said: “Why?” “Because he thinks that I am more generous than you are.” Immediately this competition. [Laughter] And that fellow got the job, he was a great friend of his, even in London, he was helping him a lot. So, when we think that we have to control our husband, it is better to do it in a very simple way. Only on fundamentals, you can put down your foot. Otherwise, for small, small things if you go on dominating your husband, I tell you, you will miss the point. You were married for stupidity or for honey-moon? And in the West, especially in Italy, we have very bad experience of women. English also, I must say. English girls also have given Me a lot of trouble. I mean, they are banned now; because I cannot help it. One girl from (Celon) Sri Lanka, she was married to somebody from the USA. Imagine, from that horrible Sri Lanka where there is every day at least thirty murders, she got such a good chance to go to the USA. Of course, USA is also not a very great place. But she started behaving as if she is a childish person and talking to him in such a manner. He told Me, “Mother, she is a sadist. Whenever I telephone to her, she talks to me in such a sarcastic manner, and this, and that, that I am surprised.” I said, “A lady from Sri Lanka? I cannot believe it.” Then he told Me what she talked to him and how she talked to him. I was amazed. I mean, no man would be happy to hear all these things. But she thought she was very friendly, and she was joking, or something like that. This doesn’t work out in marriage. Man doesn’t want a wife to be on a horse and beat him with a whip. Why has he married? For the happiness, for the joy, for the sweetness, of a home. It is a very important thing I wanted to talk, because so many of women are thinking that they are something great. Some of them have some money, some of them have some jobs. First job is to keep the society very happy and to keep your husband happy. That is the first job. If a woman cannot keep the husband happy, she is no good for us. She is no good Sahaja Yogini. This is a place like man who is working in the office, he has to keep his boss pleased. If he doesn’t please his boss, he is useless, he is thrown out. In the same way, a woman has to think about the husband in a very kindly manner. Because this is her job. This is why she is married. Otherwise, she should not marry, she can do what she likes. It is a difficult thing to convince anyone. Because, you see, men are right sided, they are hot tempered. But I have told you just now how to capture their anger. I have seen also in the films, you see, all romantic scenes going on. It never happens. Nobody is like that. You see, it is all absurd things you see, so you expect them to be Clark Gable or somebody; it is not so. You have to love. You have to take your husband into your heart first. This is your duty. Otherwise, what else are you doing? I was shocked, a girl from Sri Lanka. And this boy said, “Mother, you can kill me but I will not have that girl. She is not joy-giving.” It is a fact. So, if your wife is like that, supposing, now I am telling men. The trick of the trade is, if your wife is like that, try to understand why she does it. What is her problem? Why she dominates you? Or you think she dominates you. Most of the men who talk,” Wives are like this, wives are like that…”, they are very dominating. Why she is dominating you? What is wrong with you, that she is dominating? If you introspect, you will find that you give very little time to her. Now, the other part is, there was one lady, she wanted to have a divorce. I said, “Why?” “Because he goes to work all the time and he is not there, and this and that.” But I said, “If you divorce, then you will never be with him. So, why do you want to have a divorce? At least he gives you some time. But if you divorce, he will never be with you, so why do you want a divorce?” I cannot understand the logic. I mean, women should not be brainless, to say such a thing! If you want to divorce your husband for this, it is absurd. Now, for men it is important that they should give some time, pay some attention and get some things that they like. Now, I will give you again my own example. My husband never bought any flowers for Me. You all bring flowers for Me. But he never brought any flowers for Me, whether it was birthday or anything. Then I realized that this man has no sense of flowers. He doesn’t know what is a rose, or what is any other flower. And he might bring something which is horrible, you know. Maybe cactus he might bring. So, it is better that he doesn’t bring anything because it could be insulting, isn’t it? And then, one day, he admitted, “I don’t know about flowers. Will you tell me? Except for roses, I don’t know anything.” And you’ll be amazed, even roses he misses out. So, with such an ignorance of things, if your husband doesn’t do, it shows consideration. But men should try to know what a woman likes, what she wants. Moreover, men have their own styles of thinking. Now, to give my own example again, better is. He buys always very expensive things. So, I told him, “Don’t buy anything for Me.” “You don’t like?” “No, no, I like it. But too much of these expensive things. What should you buy?” So, he is very fond of buying this kind of sweaters from that Scotch House. Very expensive, they are two hundred and fifty pounds each, you know? I don’t know how many I have. How many in black, how many… I told him I will get them from Switzerland, they are much cheaper there, and all that. Then another is, he wants to buy cashmere coat for me, always! I must be having at least ten of them in hanging. But he likes to give that only. Alright. So, I am passing out them to my daughters, grand-daughters and all that. What to do now? You see, men… He doesn’t mean anything bad. But because he doesn’t know; doesn’t know. First thing he did was to, in India, before going to the puja, he went to buy a sari for Me. One of my nephews went with him. So, he says, “Give me the most expensive sari that you have.” So, these people thought that, “Somebody has come now!” The shop people couldn’t understand this gentleman doesn’t understand anything about it. So, they brought out a sari, they said, “It is the most expensive. The price is forty-five thousand rupees.” In those days. He said, “Alright, alright, you give me. I have a card; will you take the card?” “Yes, yes, we’ll take the card.” He bought a sari. It is so heavy; it is so heavy that it is something- [Hindi aside] Shri Mataji: That… what do you call that, arm.. Some Yogis: Armor. Shri Mataji: Eh? Some Yogis: Armor. Shri Mataji: Very heavy, you know. I said, “Now, what?” He said, “You must wear for the puja.” I was walking like a giant, you know. There’s a description of your Mother: “Ati Saumya, Ati Raudra.” “She is extremely soft and extremely terrible.” But I don’t know, with that sari, how I sat. I sat in one place, glued down into that. Now, to get up, I didn’t know how to get up with that weight on my body. And then I brought it and put it properly in a box, and this and that. So, he said, “When are you wearing that next?” “Now,” I said, “please! I have kept it nicely for one wedding. I will wear it sometime.” I promised him and kept it there. Because he doesn’t understand about saris. I know he doesn’t understand about saris. So, if he doesn’t understand. Whatever he buys, I say alright. And he spent so much money on those things, you know, forty-five thousand rupees… [Hindi] So, he doesn’t understand what is real, what is unreal, nothing. Doesn’t matter. You have to just see his heart, how he is giving. With what love he is giving. He doesn’t understand, so what can he do? Poor man, you know. I always buy suit lengths for him and suits for him, always, myself. Once he said: “Alright, I am going to buy this time. I said, “Better buy”. He bought such a horrible one, and he went to the office and everybody said: “Sir, this is not your taste.” [Laughter] So, he threw it away and he said, “I will never buy now. Then, you’d better go and buy for me.” See, but the trouble is, if women take interest and know what sort of colour he will like, and this and that. And also, public opinion is very important for men. What the public says. Like once I painted my drawing room with a very nice colour, pink and black mixed, very nice. Because it is a sign of warmth. He said, “What is this colour you have put? You should have…this, that.” He started shouting. I said, “Alright, tomorrow we are having a party, after that I will change.” Next day, people came and they said, “Oh, what a colour, what a colour! How have you made this colour? How beautiful!” He started looking at Me. I said, “Should I remove it?” “No, no, no, no, no, it’s very nice.” [Laughter.] Men care for public opinion very much. And you should see that you create a good public opinion in his presence, so that he will appreciate you. All these are tricks, you see. I tell you, men are very simple, but you have to understand them. Sometimes they get angry, doesn’t matter. Actually, if they are angry with somebody else, they will come and put it on you. It is better, because if they will do anything to others, they will beat them. You are not going to beat. If you understand a few things about men, it will work out. Of course, some are very miserable husbands, I know. And some miserable wives. For them, we have divorce allowed. In our Sahaja Yoga, we have divorce for them. So, that is the thing I wanted to tell you, that you should make a very good housewife, a very good Gruha Lakshmi. Now, why am I telling you this, that I am suffering from Gruha Lakshmi’s chakra. And all the doctors have told Me it is because in the collective, Gruha Lakshmi’s are not alright. Because they are not good housewives. Like, I will tell you now, we have Swiss women. They are very good, I agree about that, but very fond of cleanliness. Swiss are mad after cleanliness; women, women. You cannot talk to them even five minutes. If you are sitting there, they are picking up this, picking up that, picking up that, cleaning, cleaning, cleaning. Very difficult. Swiss women. Now, I was in Eritrea, Alga told Me that the women of Eritrea are known to be Swiss women. Oh, doesn’t matter if the house is a little untidy, if something has fallen off. In India, no woman will do that. Now, the guests are sitting and she is with a hoover. Like another thing is, like anything breaks, say, supposing, a thermometer breaks. In India, they will say, “Very good, now there will be no temperature; the thermometer is broken.” But I have seen in the west, very surprisingly, supposing some coffee is spilled, I am a guest; immediately they will bring the hoover, bring something to clean it, in the presence of the person. Now, if a glass breaks, finished. It is not important. It is a very subtle type of materialism, I think. That the person is sitting here, who is a guest, and why are you trying to do all these things in Her presence or in his presence? But these Western women never understand. Another thing is, now you go to an Indian house. Their colour scheme is different. If you go to South Indians, theirs is different. Everybody has their own taste. As soon as they will enter, Western women, “What a colour scheme!” “What a thing you bought! Oh, my God, this is horrible!” Immediately they will criticize, on the face. So, another point is that you must always consider the feelings of others. Woman is there to give proper understanding of feelings of others; what they think. Or they go to an Indian house and will be smelling out their food. They will eat the same food; they will enjoy the food. But they will try to show; to show that it is something lower. This is very western, I must say. If somebody is wearing a dress, immediately they will pass a remark. Very western idea. You will not find good Indians doing that. I do not know about the modern Indians, what sort of things they are. But immediately they will say things which will hurt. This is not the way a woman should know. On the contrary, always praise! What is the harm by praising something? You are not losing your business. By saying: “What a nice thing, what a nice sari! What nice clothes!”, what is the harm? You will enjoy your sweetness, you know, really enjoy your sweetness. It is not telling lies, not to be that honest, also necessary. Because you don’t like something, you must say, “I don’t like it!” This word must go from Sahaja Yoga. “I like this and I don’t like that!” If I say that, how many will remain in Sahaja Yoga? So, it is very important to drop this: “I like it, I don’t like it”. Who are you to like or not like? What about your Spirit? What about your heart? So, again, the same thing comes to, that women have to have a heart; a very large heart, beautiful heart. And your Guru is a Mother. So, you have to be wonderful mothers and wonderful wives and should have very, very large heart. So that all the selfishness, even this bank will collapse, if you do that. It is existing because we have small hearts. If you have large hearts, this will collapse. I have said it specially, because I have had many complaints about the women who are married here, some Indian women also. That is why I am telling you. Best reports are about Russian women, I must say. Very good reports about them. They are very satisfied souls, they want very little, they are not greedy. Surprising, communism has done so much good to them. It is not communism, but the extremities of communism have thrown them into that area where they don’t have any sense of possession. They don’t have. Their government said, “Alright, you can have your flats and look after them.” They said, “We don’t want them.” Government said that, “You can have your cars.” They said, “We don’t want them. You’d better have!” Because, just to own the car is such a headache, they know. Let the government have the headache. They are not, you know, sort of people who are even conscious of possessing. Of course, now, they have had some funny people, I forget his name, who was finance minister you had. And he was in Geneva, where he learned all the tricks of the trade and he brought forth lots of reforms, so called; so, now, Leningrad and Moscow have become very expensive places, thanks to Swiss influence. So, this has happened there also, but still the people are very good, and the ladies who came from there. Even Romanian girls are very much respected, now everybody wants Romanians or Russians, or from Kiev. But this time, they didn’t come, we are sorry they are not here, I am missing them all. Lastly, I have to tell you this is a very good book, Arun Apte has written. This is the book. You all should buy it. I don’t know, [Aside] what is the price you have put it? [Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi about the book and its prize] So, those who want to have this book should apply. There are only five. Very good book; so, you will understand about Indian music. It is said that this music has come from Omkara. And it is very sort of – sensible music. Now, I think all those musicians who sang before, who were singing western song, it was alright. But what was missing in that: melody. It is not melodious. You see, like a little bit you sing, then you sing this, then you shout, then you bring it down, then do like this. And they think that they have to sing through their heart. They have to express the feeling of their heart. Now, supposing somebody is dejected, so he sings the song of dejection. Then another one who is talking about love, he will sing a song. He may not be, but artificially they want to produce that effect. There is no need; to sing in parts, like one word, then one word, there is no melody in it, there is no flow in it. And, while, Russian songs, though they were folk songs, were very melodious. But don’t worry, Americans are invading that part also. They are having all this horrible music there. Now, the music means, it should please you. It should give you more entertainment; not to make you unhappy, not to make you sad. If you have all these feelings within you, then you should try to say like this, “Yes, there is a problem, but I will get over it.” Because you are Sahaja Yogis, you have to show the victory; the victorious nature of your lives, in your music. I am not talking about others; they go on crying, weeping and singing. But there is no melody first of all, it is just part, part, part, part. Even the orchestra, I was surprised: it all goes like this “ta ta ta ta ta” then goes “ta ta ta ta ta”. But Indian orchestra, you will see, it is melodious. It flows like a river. So, this difference is very bad. So, I would request all the musicians who are singing. The singing doesn’t mean that you use words which nobody will understand. Words must be clear-cut and the melody must be there. Now, in Indian ragas, there is melody but words are not important. So, you enjoy the tune, and everything, whether you know the language or not, doesn’t matter. So, when you can combine melody with western music, you will see how different it will be. And this book will teach you. This is a very good book, which you should have, and you should understand that how the music can cure you, music can give you joy, what is the basic, the essence of music. And then you can flower it out. I am sure, if Indian musicians take to western music, it will be much better than to western music as it is. I cannot understand, these people are so famous and people think they are very well earning and all that. In America, anybody can earn like that, but to make it a proper music, I think you must have the basis of Indian music. Then you can expand it as you like. Now, please try to buy this book, to understand Indian music. There is no price yet given, but it won’t be much more than normal, so next time, I think for Diwali Puja, they might bring- [Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi to know when the book will be available] Or at Ganapatipule. I will try to get more of these, but this you must really read, because you will know what is the essence of music, alright? And lastly, today is the fourth day of Navaratri, and they have given Me some of them, names which are really horrid. But they must be people who have suffered so much and they asked Mother to kill those horrible rakshasas. Now, in a way, it all will kill in its natural course. I know that. If you people take to sense, because you are the ones who can do it. If you do not try to acquire things which you don’t want, unnecessary things, if you try to reduce all these things, and take to something natural and love the Mother Earth, I am sure it will work out. The Mother Earth herself will work it out. You know this earthquake; now, nobody is going in the church. I didn’t do anything; it is the Mother Earth. Nobody goes in the church. I didn’t do anything, I would not. I was sorry for the art pieces gone. But see now, how the nature is working out. Now, Islamic people, these Islamic people from Indonesia and all these people are suffering from the smoke. I didn’t do that. Because, when you try to do something wrong, it comes back to you. Action has a reaction. So, your faces should be sahaj, you should be sahaj, shouldn’t look like strained people. I cannot understand. You are sahaj; and be in that sahaj mood. I am sorry I have taken so much time, but tomorrow I won’t be able to speak all these things to you, and you should try to think about it, that, “Our Mother loves us, She wants us to have a good family, She wants us to look after our children.” So, I have advised all the men, as well as the women. Better to be “hen-pecked”, there is no harm. But “hen-pecked” doesn’t mean that they are “hen-pecked”. See, they are just to please your wife; what is the harm? But it doesn’t mean that dominates you, that is not it. Like, “Come to my father’s house; I must go to my mother’s house.” All these kinds of things you should not permit. But women should also understand, her family is more important than father, mother, even Mataji. Because I will be only happy to see a happy family. So, thank you very much. H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

4th day of Navaratri, “Materialism, Nature and Marriage”, Evening before Navaratri Puja. Cabella (Italy), 4 October 1997. [During the evening program, after some musical performances and a play by the English, the Swiss sahaja yogis acted in a play where they openly denounced the Swiss bank (about its money laundering etc.). Ultimately, they recited the “litany for the doom of Materasura”, the demon of materialism:] “Litany for the doom of Materasura”: This is a world that feeds the Swiss Banks’ Octopus. This is a world where too much is not enough. This is a world where negativity is a plus. This is a world where the saints say: Enough. This is a world where 1.3 billion people live on an income of less than $1 a day and where the planet does not have enough natural resources to sustain, at a worldwide scale, the consumption pattern of Malaysia, leave alone America. PLEASE SHRI DURGA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Durga Namoh Namaha. This is a world where ten per cent of world trade is generated by drugs and narco-traffics, or US$100 billion represents the amount that yearly poisons mankind, while money laundering in Switzerland and elsewhere has become a most prosperous activity, reaching all levels of society. PLEASE SHRI RAKTABIJA VINASHINI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Raktabija Vinashini Namoh Namaha. This is a world where Wall Street sucks the wealth from the working middle class to bestow it upon the rich and where Walt Disney makes you forget all about it. PLEASE SHRI KATYAYANI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Katyayani Namoh Namaha. This is a world where an Egyptian eats at MacDonald’s in Cairo and a Chinese at Pizza Hut in Beijing, because modern consumerism expresses the lowest common denominator of world culture and erases the meaning of national values and traditions. PLEASE SHRI SHAKAMBARI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Shakambari Namoh Namaha. The new multinational entities are experimenting with new forms of dictatorship, setting their production sites in the developing world, reducing to slavery a subdued working class and exploiting children on the altar of productivity gains. PLEASE SHRI RAKSHAKARI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Rakshakari Namoh Namaha. The globalization of production and services allow a few global players to befool us and impose the rules of their game to the mass of unsuspecting consumers. PLEASE SHRI BHIMADEVI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Bhimadevi Namoh Namaha. Vast restructuration endeavours are progressively leading to the eradication of small and medium-sized enterprises for the benefit of gigantic corporations operating on a worldwide scale. PLEASE SHRI CHANDIKA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Chandika Namoh Namaha. The gradual concentration of liquid wealth in the hands of the super-rich is marginalizing national sovereignty and its elected officials, and is imposing a titanic dimension to the ruler-ship of money. PLEASE SHRI RAKSHASAGNI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Rakshasagni Namoh Namaha. Greed raised to the power 108 means the pauperization of the world’s middle class and outrageous wealth for the remaining 10%. PLEASE SHRI DAITYENDRA *, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. * (MARDINI) This has been removed as it should not be preceded by Shri as it asks for the destruction of the entity involved as in “Catholic Church Mardini” Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Daityendra Namoh Namaha. The systematic elimination of alternative economic solutions, unequal trade and financial manipulations are challenging the equitable distribution of wealth among the population of the world. PLEASE SHRI VAJRINI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Vajrini Namoh Namaha. The deregulation of the financial markets has opened wide the gates of Jurassic Park for the large financial predators to roam about and thousands of billions of dollars are created from nothing by speculators to feed their unlimited thirst for money and power. PLEASE SHRI UGRACHANDESHWARI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Ugrachandeshwari Namoh Namaha. The Swiss financial centre works as a haven for rich tax-dodgers from developing countries, and diverts needed capital from national investment programmes, industrial infrastructures and social expenditure to inflate the stock exchange of the developed countries. PLEASE SHRI UGRAPRABHA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Ugraprabha Namoh Namaha. The trend of today’s mega mergers is to marginalize the State, bypass national legislation, manipulate the market, control the economy and, for all practical purposes, finish off the social foundations of real democracy. PLEASE SHRI MAHAKALI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Mahakali Namoh Namaha. The lure and mirage of such a radical concentration of wealth and power threatens to neutralize all seeking of the Spirit, and the deafening roar of the triumph of asuric materialism destroys the hope of millions of seekers. PLEASE SHRI MAHAMAYA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Mahamaya Namoh Namaha. The alliance of mafia, secretive bankers and corrupt managers has infiltrated the world economy and is threatening the ethics of collectivity which provides the foundation for the value system of our entire civilization. PLEASE SHRI VIRATANGANA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Viratangana Namoh Namaha. The enormous increase of financial assets has siphoned cash money out of the real economy and channelled it into the financial markets, building up a planetary gambling casino where arbitrary currency speculation can mount huge attacks against any country which tries to follow socially-minded policies. PLEASE SHRI KHADGAPALINI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Khadgapalini Namoh Namaha. The etheric sophistication of financial electronic circuits has created a virtual world where the immateriality of money has become the sole reality. PLEASE SHRI VISHNUMAYA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Vishnumaya Namoh Namaha. The progressive domination of technology is sucking the blood of the farmer, the artist and the potter, turning the man who works with his hands into a permanently handicapped person. PLEASE SHRI DEVA KARYA SAMUDYATA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Deva Karya Samudyata Namoh Namaha. The information highway leads to the maya web of a virtual world where human attention is scattered, desire is confused, truth is atomized and the soul is thereby reduced to slavery. PLEASE SHRI RADHA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Radha Namoh Namaha. Modern communication can become a domestic [may that mean “demonic”] tool in the hands of a few media moguls and opinion-making tycoons who are spreading their hedonistic world views of power, money and sex. PLEASE SHRI SHUKRATMIKA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Shukratmika Namoh Namaha. The Mlecchas * (from Vedic Sanskrit mlecchá, meaning "non-Vedic", "foreigner" or "barbarian") is a Sanskrit term, initially referring to those of an incomprehensible speech, later foreign or barbarous peoples, as contra-distinguished from Aryas.) of Satan have infiltrated the Internet global village to pour pornographic dirt and filth within the nest of the family and to spread hell’s shadows in the minds of helpless people. PLEASE SHRI NIRMALA KUMARI, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Nirmala Kumari Namoh Namaha. Hail, salutations to the Great Devi! Aum, Amen. May there be Auspiciousness, Joy and Peace. May Thy Divine grace penetrate the waters flowing from our mountains to the four corners of Europe and spread the pure vibrations of the Aquarian Age. Salutations to Thee Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Ji, the Resplendent One, O formidable Avatar! We bow to Thee, most pleasing yet most frightful, who has been approached by the Trimurtis for the sake of protecting the universe. Today, in this festival of Navaratri, we chant the litany of Thy children in Switzerland for the defeat of the foes of the Spirit, and we offer to Thy glittering teeth the new asuric forms of materialism. PLEASE SHRI RAKTADANTIKA, DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES THAT MATERIALISM CREATED. Om Twameva Sakshat Shri Kalki Sakshat Shri Sahasrara Swamini Moksha Pradayini Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namaha. [TALK BEGINS HERE] It has been such a great treat for us, not only entertainment but the way, for our own future, how to move and what to do. It’s very surprising that this Swiss bank business has been attracting my attention all the time. I don’t know much how they can digest everything so well. In these modern times, when people are talking of democracy, talking of very big ideal things and all that, at the same time, how can such an illegal system exist openly? And for that, I have a plan, as Arnaud has said, I have to expose, I have a plan to do something about it. As far as the materialism is concerned, it’s working out. (1.27) All these countries who were supposed to be very advanced, developed, are suffering first from recession; and a terrible recession. That recession is going to give them a lesson about overproduction of nonsensical goods. Materialism comes because people have gone mad with their greed. I was searching a house in England, went round to see houses and I was surprised that all kinds of plastic things and mixed things and all that, were piled up in mountains in every house; mountains! And you passed through a door; you would find two legs of a pant falling on you. But not only in England, same in Paris, I’ve seen people accumulating so much of nonsense, that they don’t know where to put it and what to do. This madness is on, and on and on. Now, I have found out a solution for Sahaja Yogis, what they should do. They should try to encourage handicrafts. Every country I went to, I bought handicrafts. Whether it was Czechoslovakia or England or anywhere. I cannot understand, how can you go and buy this rubbish of plastic, of these useless things. And these handicrafts, when I bought, I was surprised. I must tell you about Czechoslovakia, that there were small, small, very small shops, and they all came one by one: “Mother, buy something from us also. Mother, buy something from us.” You know, I was surprised, such beautiful things. They said: “We cannot sell them.” But all nonsensical things, people are buying. So, for Sahaja Yogis, they must take a vow, that we’ll only take things that are hand-made. You need not have many things. You can have few; but something hand-made. Now supposing you get a dress. There should be some hand-made embroidery or something put on that. So, some labour is put into it. It is very difficult to see how people go in for things which are very cheap and extremely troublesome. I must tell you one thing; I cannot wear nylon. I can’t wear anything artificial. Really, I can’t. For a while, if I wear socks also, my whole body starts paining. So, it is against. Handmade things are few, I agree. But use as far as possible hand-made things. From the Mother Earth, they make very nice, say terracotta. So, I am a socialist by temperament, I think, so I felt a great urge that I should really export nothing but terra-cotta. And terracotta is such a beautiful thing. It’s so soothing, it’s so good, it smells so well. But people think: “No, we should buy something that is made from America, in some machinery thing.” They go on buying like that. In America also, I was surprised that beautiful things are selling in shops that they call “Outlets”. Very beautiful; mostly of silk and cotton. And leather, pure leather. But people will go to big, big markets and buy all nonsense at a very high price, and not from there. Means they have no wisdom. And this is what happens, that the wisdom, if it is lacking in your sense, then this wisdom corrodes the society; because wisdom itself shows how dangerous it is to go on buying these nonsensical things. Also, now you are seeing that people are taking more to Ayurveda and to homoeopathy. They don’t want to use these horrible medicines produced by your great country. You know what they do, Swiss? They send very big offers to doctors from India to come and work for them. And supposing they have produced one sample, as you have shown, then the same one, they change a little bit and say: “It’s better.” And you know, these medicines, most of them are very dangerous and troublesome. By mistake, my family gave Me these antibiotics. Since then, my legs are very weak and troublesome. I have improved, no doubt. So, you see why we are now taking to this? Because pollution is there, another thing which is created by all these machineries. Gandhiji was saying: “There is no need to use so much machinery.” Now, motor car: we can walk, we can use trains. But people want to go anywhere by motor car, even if it is about, say, ten meters. They don’t want to walk. That’s why our health has gone down. I must tell you; when I was studying in the school, my school was about five miles. And we had a car, and we had also horses and what you call as a buggy, in our house. But it was compulsory for us to walk five miles in the morning. Evening time, the car used to come. But morning time, we all had to walk five miles to go to our school. And in between, there was a small little mountain which we had to climb. That is how we learned about nature. If you don’t walk, from the car, what do you know? At the most, you can see some lamppost. What do you see from the car? Nothing. You cannot see the nature. This walking system is very much out of date now for people. People don’t walk. I am not saying that today we are very changed and we are very advanced people. In a way, we have gone down. Because we cannot walk. God has given these legs to walk, but we cannot walk. You avoid walking in the end. Now, because of that, so many cars! I think that in some families, they have five cars, because there are five family members. Specially in Spain, I was surprised. So many cars, so many cars, and every car has only one person. Now the problem has started with the pollution and all these things, because we have lost the habit of depending upon ourselves. Now, see what happened in, say, Kuala Lumpur and all these places, suffering from what you call the ( smoke) smog. Now, I have not done it, if you think that way. And they pray to Allah: “Give us water.” Why would God give them water if they are doing all kinds of nonsensical things? Now, there is the smoke going on. Why? Because they have cut the trees. Why do they want to cut the trees? Because they want to make money. That’s all. And their wood is coming to India, because in India also, they have cut the trees. If you go on like this, mad, you’ll have pollution, means what? Is that destructive forces will act and stop it. For that, you don’t have to pray to Goddess. It will work out. And it’s all working out everywhere. So, whatever you have to have, try to have something which is handmade. Even your clothes need not be many, try to have it which are handmade. It’s one of the things Sahaja Yogis can do. They need not be- to send money to this Swiss bank also. This Swiss bank will be very badly exposed now, I’m angry with them for one more thing: that they had promised that they would give the money to the Jews, and now they are going like this, they don’t want to give. When they will die, are they going to take it with them? All these sins will be punished. And that is why I am very happy that he has brought it, because I have been talking about it even in that conference I went to in China, I talked openly about the Swiss Bank. I have talked to many magistrates and to many, what do you call them: the head of the Law Ministry and all that, and I told them: “Why not, we have a conference and say that this banking is nonsense?” Now, all types of bad people are taking advantage of this system and are trying to make money, look very nice, or I don’t know. So many have lost their money there. I don’t know what was the need to put all this money there, that when they die, their children do not get anything. But the problem is this greed, it’s some sort of an inner defect in the human being. He becomes greedy; greedy, because he has deviated from dharma. He thinks he can get pleasure out of things. He cannot. And he goes on accumulating and buying, and this and that. I would say, your Mother also does that: I buy. But I buy things that are handmade. So that tomorrow, if I have to give it as presents, or if I have to sell off things, even the ornaments you have given Me, I didn’t know what to do, I am selling them. What will I do with the ornaments? I have to buy so many ashrams, this, that. My family ornaments also I am selling. Because I spend money on my family things also. This is, just think of it, what is all this for? What pleasure does it give us? I can understand, if you want to give somebody a present, or somebody you want to give some happiness, joy, you should do it. But just for yourself, go on, go on, how much can you digest it? You cannot. Joy is much more in giving to others. It’s not a thing that gives you any understanding of the fundamentals. The fundamentals is that you are dharma. Within you is that, that is your valency. And this materialism is absolutely against it. Because it creates all kinds of people: mafias, the Swiss bank, the cheats. We have communities after communities who are known to be cheats, who are very materialistic. They have no spiritual sense. So, for Sahaja Yogis, I would say- of course, you have said all the mantras, so I am supposed to do all that. But what you have to do is not to buy any more anything which is not handmade. Try it. At least, there should be some embroidery, at least there should be some work done on it. I am surprised that these things are not so very good for us, they are injurious to our health. So, Sahaja Yogis must learn that they have to walk. They must walk. And they must see the nature, what is in the nature. Many of you don’t know, say, I asked the name of this flower; how many of you know? It’s a very sweet name: “kiss me quick”, apart from its botanical name. But it is, you see, what I am saying, everything you should know. You should know about small, small things: from where this embroidery comes, from where the sari comes. Our Indian men are the worst. I would say, they don’t know anything whatsoever. But even Western men also have the same problem. You must take interest in things in which you have not taken interest. For example, Indians don’t know how to cook. They don’t know. Once, my husband told Me that he knows how to cook. I said: “What?” He said: “I’ll make chapatis.” And what he made was nothing: Australia, America, this, that. But he said: “I give up. Because I was doing shipping, thus shipping means shipping.” But minute things, you can see, what we call, is a subtle vision, subtle eyesight. If you walk, look at the nature, love the trees, love the animals. You’ll be amazed, there are so many things to be known, than reading newspaper. What is there to read in the newspaper? For hours together, you go on reading newspaper, next day you forget it. You’ll be amazed that, for Goddess it is said that: “Kataksha, kataksha, niriksha.” “Every glance, She knows everything.” Any glance She puts on any man, woman or anything, She knows where it is. And if you are my children, you should also try that. Because I always used to run out in the jungles, in the forests, I used to go to all such places, I really enjoy the beautiful Mother, this Mother Earth who has created such a beautiful thing. Have you noticed just now that the colours of the background which was made by the Russians, and the colours of this facing thing, are just the same? They have used the same colours. It’s through collectivity. Now, you notice, in the nature, it’s so matching, you know; nothing gross, nothing loud. It’s so beautiful: this is red, but it has green to match it. This Mother Earth knows everything, She understands everything, She does everything. But what do we do for Mother Earth? It is to run after artificial things, machinery, this thing. And now, a new thing has come, it’s computer. It’s alright if you want to write letters to someone. But otherwise, it’s quite maddening. And this computer will make our brain absolutely zero. It will be paralyzed; we won’t be able to think two plus two. So, anything that you want to use, also, should have its maryadas. Don’t go beyond it. If you take to swimming, you’ll go on swimming till you get sick. If you are horse-riding, you will go on horse-riding till you fall down. See, this is also a kind of a life which has no maryadas. Like greed has no maryadas, that’s how all these kinds of nonsense: “I’m only fond of this, I’m only fond of this”. You are a human being; you should never say like that. On the contrary, you should say: “I must learn this; I must know this. What is this all about?” It is very important. Otherwise, your personality will be a dwarf personality. And ultimately, people end up in money. I don’t understand. I cannot even count two hundred notes. Cannot even. I don’t know about money, I should say. But I am good at mathematics. But I don’t know. Whatever money you are giving goes direct to them, and they do with it whatever they like. And somebody says: “How much you got for this?” “I don’t know.” “How much for royalties?” “I don’t know.” Because I am not interested. I am not interested. What is there to be so much interested in money? But I get money alright, no problem; never a problem. I sold one of my ornaments and I got at least one hundred times more than I have spent. Maybe you might say it is vibrations, whatever you may say. So, to get after money means you get very much in the clutches of money. So, what is the solution to get rid of this greed? It is to try and give it to others and see the joy. Give something to others. Share and see the joy you feel by giving something. I must tell you, Grégoire isn’t here but I am missing him, because once I went to a sari shop and wanted to buy one sari. But I thought it’s rather expensive. Why should I buy such an expensive sari? Came away. And you’ll be amazed, he gave Me the same sari on my birthday. And I was so thrilled with joy! Because he bought it; next day he went and bought it from that shop, kept it with him and on my birthday, he gave it to Me. These small, small things can give you great joy, in giving people, other people, not yourself. I don’t know if I have bought anything much for myself in my lifetime; never. Even if I go out shopping and I am thirsty, I don’t even buy one coca cola for myself. People know I don’t buy anything for myself; Practically nothing, but you all give Me so much, what to do? Now, I have decided that after these seventy-five years of age, I shouldn’t take anything from you, whatsoever. But to please you maybe, they are asking that only take national, international… “Alright, but no more. Every country shouldn’t bring. After all, there is national, international, you are all international people, what is the need to bring any present for Me? I don’t even have time to see them. I am so very busy with other things, because there are so many problems in this world. So, I would suggest that, to get over all these things, we should see ourselves what are we doing about it? I am sure none of you have money in the Swiss bank, thank God. But never earn more than you have; there is no need. Whatever comes your way, is alright. Of course, if you are doing some work of creativity, of creating some designs, of creating something, it is alright. But don’t buy, go on buying things for yourself or putting the money here, hiding, hiding there. There is no need. You see, you’ll be so satisfied and so happy being honest, being absolutely beyond any problems. Now this Mafia business is there, I agree with you. Now, this Mafia can be controlled only by the government, because they give such a big tax. Now for example, an artisan, in this poor country, I will say poor because most of the people are suffering from tax; here, you have to pay two hundred and sixty-five types of taxes. Italians are known for their art. They make beautiful things. But they cannot, because they have to pay so much taxation. Only the designers, they make the money. Designers make the money, befooling everybody. They befool people so much! Once, my husband went to Cairo and got one scarf for Me. So, he said: “This is designer’s”. I said: “This looks Indian to Me; this is an Indian thing.” And surprisingly, in the corner is written “made in India”. He paid twenty-five pounds for that, and in India, you can get it for two pounds. So, this is another thing, to run a race of eliteness. You see, this one was bought by my son-in-law. I said: “What is so special?” “This is very great, you know.” I didn’t know what was so special about those spectacles. So, I went to one shop in America, and they all started saying: “Madam, madam, madam…” What is so “madam” about Me? Why are they calling Me “madam”? “Oh, you don’t know?” they said. “This is Cartier!” I said: “What is Cartier?” So, I am going to put “Kartikeya against him”. [Laughter.] All such stupid ideas. You see, and then, they bought Me a watch “Patek Philippe”. That watch, they bought for Me. And it would not run-in time. I said: “What is this? It never keeps the time. It’s always out of time.” My vibrations must be doing some tricks. So, I gave it to one of them and I said: “Baba, show this thing to the Patek Philippes.” (27.14) Ah, that time, Mathias was there. “This will hit their ego, Mother, very much.” I said: “Why?” “Because they think they are the best.” I said: “Whatever it is, tell them to change it, it doesn’t keep time.” Then I asked my daughter to have it. I said: “Baba, I don’t know why, I think maybe I am going to have something simple.” That again turned out to be what you call “designer’s”. They are now, most of these designers are in jail. And some of them met Me when I was coming from Russia. They are absolutely useless people. They take out some idea and sell it for a high price. If you are a fool, you go and buy that. Did you notice that this is Cartier? For Sahaja Yogis are simple people. Now, the thing is these are also Mafias. I tell you these are also Mafias, and these Mafias are exploiting you, I have written it in my book also, if you read it, how these entrepreneurs are trying to befool you. You wear a simple dress, simple, hand-made, will be much better than wear something that will make you look like something out of the blue. And there is no need, because it is just satisfying your ego. Some people have a habit, as soon as… say I have, supposing, some dinner set. They’ll come and see the back of the dinner plates: “Ah, from where did you get?” “I don’t know. I think somebody gave Me; I don’t know, I don’t know.” “No, no, you’d better find out, because it’s very nice.” Next day, they’ll go round the whole place, to find out if they can get the same dinner set. And Sahaja Yoga is just opposite, I tell you; you depend on Sahaja Yoga. Once, my husband liked one tea set. So, you know, London has big, huge big stores. Some of them are really horrid. I went there; we walked and walked and walked through so many! They said: “Alright, we promise after six months.” Another said: “Seven months.” Another said: “Eight months.” I gave up the idea. Then C.P. said, “What happened to their factories?” I said, “They don’t have anything, they are exporting.” Then I went to Australia, you’ll be amazed. And there, for a special price, just for propagating, they have put these tea sets there. Imagine, in Australia! And I got it for the half price. So, if you don’t have greed, you get what you want, just there. Just there you get it. But if you have greed, then God makes you dance. Alright. That is so simple as that. Whatever you want, you can get it if you don’t have greed about it. That’s such an enslaving thing within us, that we have greed! I mean, I can give you a thousand and one examples about that. Thousand and one. That if you don’t ask for anything, don’t desire for anything, you get what you need. Whatever you need, you get. But if you go on desiring, if you go mad after it, go there, get these, and get lost. And then, the thing also gets lost. That’s why it’s said, better try to develop a detachment. It’s alright if it is there, very good; if it is not there, it doesn’t matter. Then you’ll be surprised, your attention will be so subtle. Now, none of you, I think, has seen these beautiful flowers, that are here. The beautiful embroidery that is there; the way they have done this. Now, can you tell Me how many there are hands in this one? Fourteen; twenty-eight. This side – fourteen, this side – fourteen. I mean inclusive of all these other things. So, you don’t notice anything. And your attention becomes in the Mahamaya. This is no explanation; your attention, if it is clear and simple, you can see the things clearly. And with that attention only, that attention yourself takes you to the right place you have to go, you get the right thing, what you have to buy. Can you tell Me, these carpets are from where? They are mostly from Russia. I went to Russia and I saw this carpet factory. They have no sense of export, also. So, I told them: “How much will a carpet cost?” They said: “Only twenty dollars.” I said: “Baba, only twenty dollars for a carpet?” So, I told doctor: “What to do, now we have to buy many.” I said: “How much for export?” “Two hundred dollars.” I said: “In India, it’s the other way round: if you have to export something, then the price is less.” I said: “Alright, so I guess we must think of a solution”, because I needed. So, I asked about twenty Sahaja Yogis to buy each, one. To Russians, they give for twenty dollars. I said: “Alright, you bring this.” So, you should go in for solutions, and not for problems. Greed is a problem. How do you get rid of the greed is the point? And to get rid of the greed, if I buy something, “For whom should I buy this one? For whom should I buy? Ah, this would be alright for another friend of mine.” Like that; if you train your mind along these lines, not for yourself, but for others, you will be amazed, this greed will run away. And you’ll have joy. As you want to give Me things, I understand that. I also want to give you. In the same way, think of all others. They are all brothers and sisters. From other countries, make friends with other countries. If giving is there, then this greed goes away; and you get what you want. It’s a very simple mantra. It’s surprising, so far, with all the miracles, we don’t understand that whatever we need, will also be provided for all. But you must need it. Not for stupid collection of things. This was a very, very good thing, acted very well, I enjoyed it thoroughly, this Swiss bank laundering. I know, my country suffers from it. Now, the other drama which was done by the English, “The Pilgrim’s Progress”, is an old, quite an old drama, which I have read long time back. But this is the real pilgrims, they have shown how a seeker goes into wrong ways, methods; and throughout, they very nicely brought in how, even a Sahaja Yogi, while rising, falls into different pits. It’s a very good thing for you to know that, if you are a Sahaja Yogis, you should be very careful and you should see that you don’t fall into these pits, and ultimately the ego and superego. (36:38) In the west the problem is more of ego, not of superego. And for ego, to accept that you have ego is the only way; and then it will drop out. If you know there is ego, ego will drop out. The simple thing is to know that you have ego; ego of something. People have ego of any nonsense, you know. There was one lady, very proud and egoistical. So, I asked about her, what is the matter with her. “Because she knows how to make dolls.” Why, that should give you ego, or what? I didn’t understand that part. But this is what it is. Even for small things, people have ego. And all this designing and all that, is based on your stupid ego, which makes you buy all this to show off your ego. So, try to be humble; humble, and try to understand that all these worldly things, we are not going to take them with us. They are going to lie down here. I am not saying, you renounce. I am not saying you take sanyasa. But you should know that the value of these things is nothing compared to you. When ego comes, this idiocy comes in. You think, by wearing something great, you can very much influence others. You may, but those who are influenced are another set of fools, I must say. Once I was wearing a ring and I went shopping in one of the places. And they were so respectful to Me, I said, “Suddenly, the shopkeepers, they never respected Me because I am an Indian, what has happened?” So, I had gone to a shop where the lady was known to Me. She said: “May I ask you, is this real?” I said: “What do you mean, real?” “Is it real emerald?” “Yes, yes, very old, from my family.” “Ah, is your family very rich?” “No, no, it was from my forefather. I am just wearing that.” “My God, if it is real, what will be the price?” “How will I know? It was bought a long time back. I don’t know the price.” “No, can you get me one?” “Why do you want to have it? You can have this one if you like.” Like that, you know, a small thing makes them think that you are so great. What is the greatest thing within us is our Spirit? The Spirit that we have. And we should know that we should be proud of it, that we have got the Spirit within us. And if we will be proud, we will not do nonsensical things. You are people who are all realized souls. And already you have crossed over this pilgrim stage; you are much above that. Now, the greatest thing is to know that we are spiritual people, and as spiritual people, you even dominate Me, in a way. If you all desire for something, I cannot get over it. I have to accept. I have to keep you pleased. Many things I am doing just because you want it. Doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter to Me because nothing comes over my head. So, it’s alright. Whatever the children want, let them do it. But the one point is, this ego has to be really under control. There is one little more point, I would like to tell you; because tomorrow, I may not be able to say, in Navaratri, you see, I am bound by other things. Is this, I wanted to talk to people who are married in Sahaja Yoga, especially to the ladies. I think some of them are extremely dominating and stupid. What is marriage? Marriage is honey-moon, as they call it. Honey is the essence and moon is the peace. Now, if the women are quarrelsome, fighting, sarcastic, it is absolutely a hell for men. Instead of that, if woman knows the essence, the honey, she should know how to please the husband, to bring peace in the family. Now, some of the husbands are drunkards, or anything. Not in Sahaja Yoga. What pleases the husband, you see, in a way, it’s a trick. It’s a trick of a Realized soul: how to please others. What do we do to our husbands? Do we try to please? First of all, try to find out what he likes. My husband, I would say, he is gone away, thank God, he used to say, “You shouldn’t wear any flower in Your head.” But in Maharashtra, all the married women are supposed to wear flowers. Since that day, I never wore any flower in my head. It’s alright, it doesn’t matter. He didn’t know what I was, so he said: “Don’t wear any flowers.” I don’t wear. Then he said: “You must wear bangles.” Because he comes from a very traditional family. All my life, I wore bangles. It pleases him, what’s the matter? Little, little things you do, just to please him. Then he also starts thinking, “What should I do for my wife?” But first, it must start from women, not from men. Because women are responsible for the society. In the Western culture, they are not told what their job is. Man’s job is economics, politics, money-earning. They have made a mess out of it, I agree with you, quite a big mess. But your job is to make the society. And to make the society, first you must know how to keep children pleased, how to keep your husband pleased, how to help people. On the contrary, if you try all the time to dominate, that’s not your job to dominate at all. Your job is to make, neutralize his domination. By simple, simple things. I’ll give an example. Thank God he is not here. He knows I am very clever in certain things. In his office, he had a gentleman. I never used to interfere with his office, but there was one gentleman, a good one, who gave up his organization and joined another one; because it was a private one, he was getting more money, so he joined it. But he found it was horrible. So, he wanted to come back to the shipping corporation. But my husband is very particular about rules and regulations. He said, “No, no, no! Now I won’t have you. Get out!” So, he came to Me. Normally, I never interfere. He came to Me and he said: “If you tell him, he might listen.” I said, “No, if I tell him, he will never listen! But I know how to do it.” So, I told him that this gentleman had come to see Me. “Ha, so he has come to the right person. Now, are you going to trouble me about it?” “No, no, no. Not at all! But just think why he came to Me?” He said: “Why?” “Because he thinks that I am more generous than you are.” Immediately this competition. [Laughter] And that fellow got the job, he was a great friend of his, even in London, he was helping him a lot. So, when we think that we have to control our husband, it is better to do it in a very simple way. Only on fundamentals, you can put down your foot. Otherwise, for small, small things if you go on dominating your husband, I tell you, you will miss the point. You were married for stupidity or for honey-moon? And in the West, especially in Italy, we have very bad experience of women. English also, I must say. English girls also have given Me a lot of trouble. I mean, they are banned now; because I cannot help it. One girl from (Celon) Sri Lanka, she was married to somebody from the USA. Imagine, from that horrible Sri Lanka where there is every day at least thirty murders, she got such a good chance to go to the USA. Of course, USA is also not a very great place. But she started behaving as if she is a childish person and talking to him in such a manner. He told Me, “Mother, she is a sadist. Whenever I telephone to her, she talks to me in such a sarcastic manner, and this, and that, that I am surprised.” I said, “A lady from Sri Lanka? I cannot believe it.” Then he told Me what she talked to him and how she talked to him. I was amazed. I mean, no man would be happy to hear all these things. But she thought she was very friendly, and she was joking, or something like that. This doesn’t work out in marriage. Man doesn’t want a wife to be on a horse and beat him with a whip. Why has he married? For the happiness, for the joy, for the sweetness, of a home. It is a very important thing I wanted to talk, because so many of women are thinking that they are something great. Some of them have some money, some of them have some jobs. First job is to keep the society very happy and to keep your husband happy. That is the first job. If a woman cannot keep the husband happy, she is no good for us. She is no good Sahaja Yogini. This is a place like man who is working in the office, he has to keep his boss pleased. If he doesn’t please his boss, he is useless, he is thrown out. In the same way, a woman has to think about the husband in a very kindly manner. Because this is her job. This is why she is married. Otherwise, she should not marry, she can do what she likes. It is a difficult thing to convince anyone. Because, you see, men are right sided, they are hot tempered. But I have told you just now how to capture their anger. I have seen also in the films, you see, all romantic scenes going on. It never happens. Nobody is like that. You see, it is all absurd things you see, so you expect them to be Clark Gable or somebody; it is not so. You have to love. You have to take your husband into your heart first. This is your duty. Otherwise, what else are you doing? I was shocked, a girl from Sri Lanka. And this boy said, “Mother, you can kill me but I will not have that girl. She is not joy-giving.” It is a fact. So, if your wife is like that, supposing, now I am telling men. The trick of the trade is, if your wife is like that, try to understand why she does it. What is her problem? Why she dominates you? Or you think she dominates you. Most of the men who talk,” Wives are like this, wives are like that…”, they are very dominating. Why she is dominating you? What is wrong with you, that she is dominating? If you introspect, you will find that you give very little time to her. Now, the other part is, there was one lady, she wanted to have a divorce. I said, “Why?” “Because he goes to work all the time and he is not there, and this and that.” But I said, “If you divorce, then you will never be with him. So, why do you want to have a divorce? At least he gives you some time. But if you divorce, he will never be with you, so why do you want a divorce?” I cannot understand the logic. I mean, women should not be brainless, to say such a thing! If you want to divorce your husband for this, it is absurd. Now, for men it is important that they should give some time, pay some attention and get some things that they like. Now, I will give you again my own example. My husband never bought any flowers for Me. You all bring flowers for Me. But he never brought any flowers for Me, whether it was birthday or anything. Then I realized that this man has no sense of flowers. He doesn’t know what is a rose, or what is any other flower. And he might bring something which is horrible, you know. Maybe cactus he might bring. So, it is better that he doesn’t bring anything because it could be insulting, isn’t it? And then, one day, he admitted, “I don’t know about flowers. Will you tell me? Except for roses, I don’t know anything.” And you’ll be amazed, even roses he misses out. So, with such an ignorance of things, if your husband doesn’t do, it shows consideration. But men should try to know what a woman likes, what she wants. Moreover, men have their own styles of thinking. Now, to give my own example again, better is. He buys always very expensive things. So, I told him, “Don’t buy anything for Me.” “You don’t like?” “No, no, I like it. But too much of these expensive things. What should you buy?” So, he is very fond of buying this kind of sweaters from that Scotch House. Very expensive, they are two hundred and fifty pounds each, you know? I don’t know how many I have. How many in black, how many… I told him I will get them from Switzerland, they are much cheaper there, and all that. Then another is, he wants to buy cashmere coat for me, always! I must be having at least ten of them in hanging. But he likes to give that only. Alright. So, I am passing out them to my daughters, grand-daughters and all that. What to do now? You see, men… He doesn’t mean anything bad. But because he doesn’t know; doesn’t know. First thing he did was to, in India, before going to the puja, he went to buy a sari for Me. One of my nephews went with him. So, he says, “Give me the most expensive sari that you have.” So, these people thought that, “Somebody has come now!” The shop people couldn’t understand this gentleman doesn’t understand anything about it. So, they brought out a sari, they said, “It is the most expensive. The price is forty-five thousand rupees.” In those days. He said, “Alright, alright, you give me. I have a card; will you take the card?” “Yes, yes, we’ll take the card.” He bought a sari. It is so heavy; it is so heavy that it is something- [Hindi aside] Shri Mataji: That… what do you call that, arm.. Some Yogis: Armor. Shri Mataji: Eh? Some Yogis: Armor. Shri Mataji: Very heavy, you know. I said, “Now, what?” He said, “You must wear for the puja.” I was walking like a giant, you know. There’s a description of your Mother: “Ati Saumya, Ati Raudra.” “She is extremely soft and extremely terrible.” But I don’t know, with that sari, how I sat. I sat in one place, glued down into that. Now, to get up, I didn’t know how to get up with that weight on my body. And then I brought it and put it properly in a box, and this and that. So, he said, “When are you wearing that next?” “Now,” I said, “please! I have kept it nicely for one wedding. I will wear it sometime.” I promised him and kept it there. Because he doesn’t understand about saris. I know he doesn’t understand about saris. So, if he doesn’t understand. Whatever he buys, I say alright. And he spent so much money on those things, you know, forty-five thousand rupees… [Hindi] So, he doesn’t understand what is real, what is unreal, nothing. Doesn’t matter. You have to just see his heart, how he is giving. With what love he is giving. He doesn’t understand, so what can he do? Poor man, you know. I always buy suit lengths for him and suits for him, always, myself. Once he said: “Alright, I am going to buy this time. I said, “Better buy”. He bought such a horrible one, and he went to the office and everybody said: “Sir, this is not your taste.” [Laughter] So, he threw it away and he said, “I will never buy now. Then, you’d better go and buy for me.” See, but the trouble is, if women take interest and know what sort of colour he will like, and this and that. And also, public opinion is very important for men. What the public says. Like once I painted my drawing room with a very nice colour, pink and black mixed, very nice. Because it is a sign of warmth. He said, “What is this colour you have put? You should have…this, that.” He started shouting. I said, “Alright, tomorrow we are having a party, after that I will change.” Next day, people came and they said, “Oh, what a colour, what a colour! How have you made this colour? How beautiful!” He started looking at Me. I said, “Should I remove it?” “No, no, no, no, no, it’s very nice.” [Laughter.] Men care for public opinion very much. And you should see that you create a good public opinion in his presence, so that he will appreciate you. All these are tricks, you see. I tell you, men are very simple, but you have to understand them. Sometimes they get angry, doesn’t matter. Actually, if they are angry with somebody else, they will come and put it on you. It is better, because if they will do anything to others, they will beat them. You are not going to beat. If you understand a few things about men, it will work out. Of course, some are very miserable husbands, I know. And some miserable wives. For them, we have divorce allowed. In our Sahaja Yoga, we have divorce for them. So, that is the thing I wanted to tell you, that you should make a very good housewife, a very good Gruha Lakshmi. Now, why am I telling you this, that I am suffering from Gruha Lakshmi’s chakra. And all the doctors have told Me it is because in the collective, Gruha Lakshmi’s are not alright. Because they are not good housewives. Like, I will tell you now, we have Swiss women. They are very good, I agree about that, but very fond of cleanliness. Swiss are mad after cleanliness; women, women. You cannot talk to them even five minutes. If you are sitting there, they are picking up this, picking up that, picking up that, cleaning, cleaning, cleaning. Very difficult. Swiss women. Now, I was in Eritrea, Alga told Me that the women of Eritrea are known to be Swiss women. Oh, doesn’t matter if the house is a little untidy, if something has fallen off. In India, no woman will do that. Now, the guests are sitting and she is with a hoover. Like another thing is, like anything breaks, say, supposing, a thermometer breaks. In India, they will say, “Very good, now there will be no temperature; the thermometer is broken.” But I have seen in the west, very surprisingly, supposing some coffee is spilled, I am a guest; immediately they will bring the hoover, bring something to clean it, in the presence of the person. Now, if a glass breaks, finished. It is not important. It is a very subtle type of materialism, I think. That the person is sitting here, who is a guest, and why are you trying to do all these things in Her presence or in his presence? But these Western women never understand. Another thing is, now you go to an Indian house. Their colour scheme is different. If you go to South Indians, theirs is different. Everybody has their own taste. As soon as they will enter, Western women, “What a colour scheme!” “What a thing you bought! Oh, my God, this is horrible!” Immediately they will criticize, on the face. So, another point is that you must always consider the feelings of others. Woman is there to give proper understanding of feelings of others; what they think. Or they go to an Indian house and will be smelling out their food. They will eat the same food; they will enjoy the food. But they will try to show; to show that it is something lower. This is very western, I must say. If somebody is wearing a dress, immediately they will pass a remark. Very western idea. You will not find good Indians doing that. I do not know about the modern Indians, what sort of things they are. But immediately they will say things which will hurt. This is not the way a woman should know. On the contrary, always praise! What is the harm by praising something? You are not losing your business. By saying: “What a nice thing, what a nice sari! What nice clothes!”, what is the harm? You will enjoy your sweetness, you know, really enjoy your sweetness. It is not telling lies, not to be that honest, also necessary. Because you don’t like something, you must say, “I don’t like it!” This word must go from Sahaja Yoga. “I like this and I don’t like that!” If I say that, how many will remain in Sahaja Yoga? So, it is very important to drop this: “I like it, I don’t like it”. Who are you to like or not like? What about your Spirit? What about your heart? So, again, the same thing comes to, that women have to have a heart; a very large heart, beautiful heart. And your Guru is a Mother. So, you have to be wonderful mothers and wonderful wives and should have very, very large heart. So that all the selfishness, even this bank will collapse, if you do that. It is existing because we have small hearts. If you have large hearts, this will collapse. I have said it specially, because I have had many complaints about the women who are married here, some Indian women also. That is why I am telling you. Best reports are about Russian women, I must say. Very good reports about them. They are very satisfied souls, they want very little, they are not greedy. Surprising, communism has done so much good to them. It is not communism, but the extremities of communism have thrown them into that area where they don’t have any sense of possession. They don’t have. Their government said, “Alright, you can have your flats and look after them.” They said, “We don’t want them.” Government said that, “You can have your cars.” They said, “We don’t want them. You’d better have!” Because, just to own the car is such a headache, they know. Let the government have the headache. They are not, you know, sort of people who are even conscious of possessing. Of course, now, they have had some funny people, I forget his name, who was finance minister you had. And he was in Geneva, where he learned all the tricks of the trade and he brought forth lots of reforms, so called; so, now, Leningrad and Moscow have become very expensive places, thanks to Swiss influence. So, this has happened there also, but still the people are very good, and the ladies who came from there. Even Romanian girls are very much respected, now everybody wants Romanians or Russians, or from Kiev. But this time, they didn’t come, we are sorry they are not here, I am missing them all. Lastly, I have to tell you this is a very good book, Arun Apte has written. This is the book. You all should buy it. I don’t know, [Aside] what is the price you have put it? [Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi about the book and its prize] So, those who want to have this book should apply. There are only five. Very good book; so, you will understand about Indian music. It is said that this music has come from Omkara. And it is very sort of – sensible music. Now, I think all those musicians who sang before, who were singing western song, it was alright. But what was missing in that: melody. It is not melodious. You see, like a little bit you sing, then you sing this, then you shout, then you bring it down, then do like this. And they think that they have to sing through their heart. They have to express the feeling of their heart. Now, supposing somebody is dejected, so he sings the song of dejection. Then another one who is talking about love, he will sing a song. He may not be, but artificially they want to produce that effect. There is no need; to sing in parts, like one word, then one word, there is no melody in it, there is no flow in it. And, while, Russian songs, though they were folk songs, were very melodious. But don’t worry, Americans are invading that part also. They are having all this horrible music there. Now, the music means, it should please you. It should give you more entertainment; not to make you unhappy, not to make you sad. If you have all these feelings within you, then you should try to say like this, “Yes, there is a problem, but I will get over it.” Because you are Sahaja Yogis, you have to show the victory; the victorious nature of your lives, in your music. I am not talking about others; they go on crying, weeping and singing. But there is no melody first of all, it is just part, part, part, part. Even the orchestra, I was surprised: it all goes like this “ta ta ta ta ta” then goes “ta ta ta ta ta”. But Indian orchestra, you will see, it is melodious. It flows like a river. So, this difference is very bad. So, I would request all the musicians who are singing. The singing doesn’t mean that you use words which nobody will understand. Words must be clear-cut and the melody must be there. Now, in Indian ragas, there is melody but words are not important. So, you enjoy the tune, and everything, whether you know the language or not, doesn’t matter. So, when you can combine melody with western music, you will see how different it will be. And this book will teach you. This is a very good book, which you should have, and you should understand that how the music can cure you, music can give you joy, what is the basic, the essence of music. And then you can flower it out. I am sure, if Indian musicians take to western music, it will be much better than to western music as it is. I cannot understand, these people are so famous and people think they are very well earning and all that. In America, anybody can earn like that, but to make it a proper music, I think you must have the basis of Indian music. Then you can expand it as you like. Now, please try to buy this book, to understand Indian music. There is no price yet given, but it won’t be much more than normal, so next time, I think for Diwali Puja, they might bring- [Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi to know when the book will be available] Or at Ganapatipule. I will try to get more of these, but this you must really read, because you will know what is the essence of music, alright? And lastly, today is the fourth day of Navaratri, and they have given Me some of them, names which are really horrid. But they must be people who have suffered so much and they asked Mother to kill those horrible rakshasas. Now, in a way, it all will kill in its natural course. I know that. If you people take to sense, because you are the ones who can do it. If you do not try to acquire things which you don’t want, unnecessary things, if you try to reduce all these things, and take to something natural and love the Mother Earth, I am sure it will work out. The Mother Earth herself will work it out. You know this earthquake; now, nobody is going in the church. I didn’t do anything; it is the Mother Earth. Nobody goes in the church. I didn’t do anything, I would not. I was sorry for the art pieces gone. But see now, how the nature is working out. Now, Islamic people, these Islamic people from Indonesia and all these people are suffering from the smoke. I didn’t do that. Because, when you try to do something wrong, it comes back to you. Action has a reaction. So, your faces should be sahaj, you should be sahaj, shouldn’t look like strained people. I cannot understand. You are sahaj; and be in that sahaj mood. I am sorry I have taken so much time, but tomorrow I won’t be able to speak all these things to you, and you should try to think about it, that, “Our Mother loves us, She wants us to have a good family, She wants us to look after our children.” So, I have advised all the men, as well as the women. Better to be “hen-pecked”, there is no harm. But “hen-pecked” doesn’t mean that they are “hen-pecked”. See, they are just to please your wife; what is the harm? But it doesn’t mean that dominates you, that is not it. Like, “Come to my father’s house; I must go to my mother’s house.” All these kinds of things you should not permit. But women should also understand, her family is more important than father, mother, even Mataji. Because I will be only happy to see a happy family. So, thank you very much. H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

10/5/1997

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6th Day of Navaratri, Your Beautiful Qualities will prove the Truth of Sahaja Yoga, Devi Suktam explained

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View online. Navaratri Puja, "Your Beautiful Qualities will prove the Truth of Sahaja Yoga". Cabella (Italy), 5 October 1997. [Upon arrival Shri Mataji is welcomed by yogis singing “Durgati Harani Durga Ambe”] Today is the sixth day of Navaratri.There have been many incarnations of the Goddess for different, different purposes. But when the great saints introspected themselves, who were worshipping the Mother, they found out that what She has done for us.The other day I told you the dharma is the innate valency of human beings. And they are ten. This is already established within us, but we deviate, deviate from dharma and all the problems come in, because to leave the dharma is not a human quality. But Goddess Herself has done so many things for us already, within us, though we are not aware of it. Is said that “ya Devi sarva bhuteshu” – “all those whom You have created” - means mostly the human beings – “What do You do? As what do You exist inside the human beings?”.Now, just introspect if you have these qualities within you or not, because they are given to you by the Goddess, by the Shakti within you. Like: ”Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu shanti rupena samstitha” - is very important, that You exist within human beings as peace.Do you find thus human beings who are peaceful within and without? Very difficult. But She has given you that, She has given you that peace which you have to achieve. Now it comes, because you have fallen off your human dharmas.So this peace that She has given you, you have to achieve through your ascent, through the Kundalini awakening.You are excited, all right. Or, you want to take revenge, you want to hurt others, you want to trouble others, you enjoy sometimes, even as Sahaja Yogis people enjoy hurting others, troubling others.So, the second one She says is: “Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu priti rupena samstitha”.Priti is the quality of loving, that a human being has been given the quality of loving. But, it’s not there. Because first nonsensical thing human beings have is jealousy.Now, supposing I gave some present to somebody, and some present to another one. Even in Sahaja Yoga they feel jealous. Very surprising. How can you, when the Goddess has given you the quality to love?Very, very common nonsense about it is that human beings are very jealous. But as Sahaja Yogis you should not, because that quality that the Goddess has given you is of loving.That quality should be shown - on the contrary you are very jealous. That means you are not a Sahaja Yogi, blessed by Shri Mataji - no. If you are blessed, then you will have no jealousy whatsoever.And this jealousy sometimes it goes to this extent that now, “We are, say, from Cabella, so you are from Albera”. Finished. These so close to each other, just like the two nostrils together. But there will be jealousy.There will be jealousy about, ”Why not Mother come to my country, if You can go to that country”. So this comes also from the ignorance that “This is mine, this is mine, this is yours”. This jealousy starts in such a funny manner that we do not realize also that She has given us the power to love. Tremendous power to love.Inauspicious power, our cannot be. But auspicious, dharmic power to love somebody. Means without any lust and greed, without any jealousy.But the human mind has developed itself so cunning that it is proud that it can be jealous of someone. Out of this jealousy only greed comes in, as I told you.Is a fact, because you feel jealous - so you want to buy the same thing.Then you must compete with others. If somebody has got a job better than yours, then you must compete with him.These things are all destructive and the powers of Goddess are constructive. She gives you all the powers that are absolutely constructive.Then She says, “Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu” - the saints have said it - “kshama rupena samstitha”. Kshama is what you call, is the forgiveness. Forgiveness from the heart. All right, somebody has been cruel to you, has been nasty to you, has exploited you, have troubled you, but you have the power, greater power to forgive. Do we use that power to forgive? Then for relaxing also, what does She do, that She gives you the sleep: “Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu Nidra rupena samstitha”.When you are tired and you can’t sleep She makes you sleep. She relaxes you.So the power of relaxation She does because She acts through parasympathetic nervous system. The sympathetic nervous system can excite you, can depress you. But the parasympathetic relaxes you, relaxes your heart, relaxes your body, and completely you feel relaxed and sleeping in the lap of your Mother.But there are many people who cannot sleep. Because they are thinking about something they have to achieve. If you cannot sleep, then something wrong with you. And when you cannot sleep I also cannot sleep.Whatever collectively happening, also works on Me. Anything wrong you do, that works on Me, specially collectively. So you cannot sleep because you are thinking of things which are of no value. Now, to overcome that in Sahaja Yoga we know we have to go into thoughtless awareness. But when your ego is working or...[This child is very disturbing. I’ve seen him all the time running about. Better tell him. Whose son is he?]You see, in India you’ll find children absolutely keeping quiet. Why? Because the mother takes up the responsibility to train the child.So many programs we have had, have you ever seen any child running about? Yesterday also they were running about here.The reason is mother doesn’t take responsibility as a mother to see that the children are properly brought up.Even you are so old, but I have to tell you. Whatever is good for you, for your society, a new generation that has come.In this new generation if you still are not behaving in a proper way, in abnormal way, how can you impress others? So, Mother has to tell you. The most interesting thing that the Mother has put in you is: ”Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu Bhranti rupena samshthita”.She puts you into delusion, because sometimes the children cannot understand unless and until they face the delusion.They have to face the delusion. She allows, allows you to go wrong to a point where you discovered you are lost. Very important it is that She plays, this is the Mahamaya part as they say. And this is discussed in every religion that we get lost with this delusion. Now, what are the delusions we have? We have the delusions of ego.Ego for men as if they are very powerful, that they can do what they like and they are not going to be punished for it.For women they too behave in the same manner.They don’t understand that this is a delusion the Mother has given into us, for us to find out that we are in the wrong. Because if you tell somebody, “This is wrong, you don’t do it”, still they are not matured enough so they’ll go on doing wrong things. So the Mother says, “All right, go on. Very nice, very good. Very good thing. You’ll jump in the sea? Jump”.Then when you realize that you have been in a delusion, then only you can return back. Otherwise, without any problem you cannot return. So many of you are so obstinate, so self-conscious. Whatever one may tell you, you will not listen. Whatever way you may try to convince you on a mental level, you won’t.So, the bhranti, the delusion, is beyond the mind. It is beyond the mind. It works out sometimes very well for difficult people.Now, when You are in a position of a Mother, You don’t want Your child to be ruined, naturally. She feels responsible, and She thinks that: “Now they have got connection with the Divine, and this connection should not be broken, that they should be all the time blessed and be happy.All this is within us, within us built-in, from our very childhood, but we forget, slowly, slowly we start losing it. Maybe the conditioning is such or maybe the ego is such, and maybe that they forget that they are realized souls. I am talking to you - to people who are realized souls. I’m not talking to people who are already lost or who may be on their way to Sahaja Yoga. But the way you are brought up, the way you have been told very sweetly with love, with affection, with kindness - and if you don’t understand that, then you go into bhranti.For example, it is also said that: ”Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu Lajja rupena samstitha”. Lajja, I don’t know how to describe, it’s not shyness. It is a kind of a shame about your body.Now they have beauty contests. India also they had beauty contests.[Why are you writing? What is he writing? There’s no need to write, there will be a tape. Alright?]Lajja rupena samstitha means you have to have shame of your body. That’s specially for women. As a child you will see, women are very shy. You see little girls, they are very shy. That shyness gradually disappears, but in the beginning they are even shy of Me.They come before Me, they’ll put down their head. They’ll not even say Namaste.Very sweet.And they don’t like people wearing funny dresses. I remember My granddaughter once, she saw one magazine in which there was a lady in a swimming dress. She said, “What are you doing? Better wear your dress, otherwise my Grandma will come and hit you hard”. (Shri Mataji laughs)To that lady was saying that; and then she opened and saw a man’s dress with just a small, little knicker. I don’t know why they do it. And then she said, “This one is, seems to be absolutely shameless fellow. He is going to have a bad time now.” And she closed it. And then she told the maidservant, “Burn this, burn this off. I don’t want to see.” Such a little girl she knew that it was wrong. But the way nowadays we are going about with the show of our body, and sometimes I feel that all these designers will die or will get bankrupt, because people wear such little clothes these days.There is no space for any artist to show his work or to show his art how he can dress you up.In Japan I asked them how - this is long time back, now Japanese are Americans but at that time - I said, “How is it you wear these dresses, these kimonos, done so well, very expensive and it takes time to wear that?”.So they said that, “You see, if God has made a beautiful body, then it is His art, and we have to make our art decorate it.So what we do is to make our art to decorate it.” I really liked it, because in India same thing. If there is a lady she has to wear a sari, which is being made very artfully, very beautifully, just to decorate her body, just to respect the body. But this seems to have gone with the influence of America, I should say, which are, they are brainless people, absolutely brainless, nothing to learn from them. Only two-hundred-year-old people and we start behaving in their manner, we don’t see even what is happening to their country, what sort of people they are, how they live, what is their idea, what is their goal in life. Every false guru has exploited them, because they are brainless. If they had brains they would never have accepted them. Ha, they have brains how to run a computer and how to run a television - mechanical things. But as far as their own body is concerned, they don’t know how to manage.In India they had a beauty competition and many sensible people opposed it, because it’s like selling your body and making money. What is the difference between prostitution and this? If you get money by selling your body, then it’s prostitution. You are not supposed to sell your body. That’s not what Goddess has done to you. But you should dress up well, different, different occasions are there, for those occasions you have to wear the way it is. The other day I gave a very nice sari which is, we call as paithani to one lady as a present. And we had a function for a book, was inaugurated, and this lady came there. So I said, “Why didn’t you wear a paithani?” She said, “What, there is no wedding on. How can I wear for this function paithani? There has to be a wedding.” Very sweet – “in the wedding I can wear.” It is all, you see occasions, places which are to be celebrated. Like in India, when women go to the temple or to worship the idols or anything, then they will wear all that is necessary to face the Goddess, after all.Imagine people coming for this program here wearing, I don’t know what they call it, but like jute, jute clothes - like hippies, what would happen to Me? I would disappear in thin air, I can tell you this much.So, one has to have respect for the body.That is what She has said first - that “Lajja rupena samsthita”.Now you might say that there are people who are taking the bath in the river and this and that, and give justification. But you are saints! You are realized souls! You don’t have to see those people who are not yet realized and who are misbehaving. You must do what a saint should do.There are so many qualities that the Goddess has given you. Another is kshudha rupena samstitha. She’s the One who has given us hunger. We have to eat our food.Nowadays there’s a fashion of becoming thin or whatever you may call. And you know so many diseases have developed. Anorexia, this thing, that thing, because women want to eat little.You can change the things that you are eating, but it’s not the aim of life to only look after your body. Body is not the only important thing. What is important is your Spirit.And She is the One who gives you the Kundalini. She is the One who give you a method by which you’ll ascend. But all the time worried about their body. This is something I can’t understand.Specially the women who are the shakti.Then another point is that they follow a fashion. Fashion is madness. When I was young I used to wear My blouses like this only. But in India also fashion started. They used to increase the size of the sleeves, then decreased the size of the sleeves, then some went up to here. I thought, “What is this nonsense? Why waste money like this?”. You have a particular design, and this is traditionally accepted design, that you should have.Why do you want to go on increasing and decreasing the size of your sleeves, according to the fashion. “This is the fashion”.Who makes the fashion? Devi? Devi has made the fashion? Who has made the fashion? Is these hungry, greedy people who are befooling you. And you are trying to follow fashions.Now, for example, I told that you must put oil in your head, at least on Saturday put sufficient oil and then wash your head. But you’ll not do that and then you’ll start losing your hair.I can understand if you have no time, you are a very busy man - but why? Why not do something where it is needed to look after yourself also. So, you’ll look after your body to thin down, you’ll lose your hair, eyesight will be weak, your teeth will be falling, and you will become very soon an old hag.Same with the men, nowadays men are also going to beauty parlor, I’m told.Too much money I think, and stupidity together. There is no need. If you lead a good, healthy life - you have to exercise and meditate.If you meditate you become peaceful. With that peace, you’ll be amazed, you’ll have so much of energy.So much energy is wasted in thinking.And what do you think? If you ask somebody “What are you thinking?” “Everything.” But “everything” means what? Why do you think so much? What is the need to think? It’s a habit, human habit to go on thinking about everything. For example, just now, there are three carpets here. Now, if I put attention on it I’ll just see how nice they are; I’ll just enjoy - enjoy what the artists have done, that’s all. No words - nothing. Just the enjoyment within yourself.But if you ask somebody else, he’ll just start saying, “Oh, this is not good. That’s not good. This much some price, that price, this thing, that thing.” The joy of that artist is finished.You cannot get that joy, that joy about which we are seeking. What we are seeking is joy, and even when you have got a way of doing it you do not achieve it.Because thinking is a reaction, reaction to everything, and it makes the life so miserable. It makes the life of the person who thinks and of others also.I’ll give you an example. This whole thing we got it done just because it’s very heavy rains and also we have problems of sometimes snowing. So I thought that’s a nice thing to have a nice thing done and it’s very well done, we got it. Now, there are thinking people in this Italy. Lots of them. That’s why it’s not progressing.Now, we applied three years back. Three years they kept our money locked up in the bank, imagine. And first time they said, “All right, everything is fine, it’s all right. You can have it.” It had seventy signatures of these Italians, so-called.And then they came round to say, the same people, “No, no, no, you must change it to copper”. I said, “Why?” “Because copper will be aesthetically very good.” But don’t they know, stupid people, that copper will look the same as they are looking? After one month only they will have the same colour? This is the idea of aesthetics, and now I have told them, “We don’t want your land, you keep it to yourself, give us back our money.” With a simple thing like that. Why? Because they have a committee, there is “rejune, bijune, sijune”. You have to go through all that nonsense, because they all sit down on chairs, very seriously, “We must discuss, we must consult, we must ask everyone, and then this and that”. And ultimately what comes? No progress of any kind. There is no peace. Maybe, I don’t know, maybe some underhand dealings are needed, for which they are feeling shy to tell Me.I don’t know what is the thing is, but still I can’t understand when the one office says “Yes” and again, when it comes back to it, it says “No”. Three years. So, what I am trying to say that thinking too much is a sign of ego. But, they don’t find any solutions, no solutions of any kind. They’ll never hit the solution. Because they are just discussing, arguing, thinking - they have no solutions.Now, it is important that Sahaja Yogis have to do introspection, introspection - inward. Introspection is inward-looking.Inward-looking. “Why I am thinking? What am I thinking? What is the need to think?”. You will become Nirvichara. Don’t allow your mind to befool you. This mind is like a monkey, I tell you, it’s really like a monkey. And when it starts working it makes you jump from this end to that end, that end to that end.And if you reach some conclusions, so-called, and if it is not achieved then you are the most miserable person. I have seen people thinning down only thinking about something which is absurd.And you can see out of this thinking what comes out on a global level also.What is the need to go to the moon? So many people are starved, are dying out. What is the need to go to Mars? What are they going to get from there?Because they formed a habit. First they came to India, then went to China, then went to this, then went to that; they can’t sit down, settle down. They can’t settle down in the house also. Specially men. If you are travelling by train, even if the train stops for two minutes men must get out. The wife will be worried now. And while the train will be moving then they’ll jump in. It’s a cracked brain, I think, like that - even why say they are like a monkey? Because monkeys won’t do that.It’s that they cannot stationary remain in one place. Now, in meditation you have to sit down, in one place, not to jump from here to there, there to there. This is very difficult.Women have other problems. While cooking they’ll meditate. They have no time! They have their friends, they have to go to shopping, to buy things and fill the house with all kinds of rubbish. They have no time for anything. They are also very adventurous. They want to do business, they want to do this, they want to do that. For meditation they have no time. So, settling down is very important. Settle down with yourself.So, once someone told Me, “Mother, if we settle down, we’ll become very fat.” (Shri Mataji laughs) All right, doesn’t matter - but you settle down.All sorts of excuses are there not to meditate. “Yes, I meditate, Mother, but you know, so difficult in these modern times. There are crises in our lives, there are problems in our lives.” But actually you’ll be amazed, when there’s a crisis, say, in My family or in Sahaja Yoga, immediately I become thoughtless. Spontaneously I become thoughtless, because the problem will be solved by the Paramchaitanya. The Paramchaitanya is going to solve the problem, why should I think?Forget it. Let the Paramchaitanya look after. If you don’t depend on your Paramchaitanya, it doesn’t help you. Doesn’t give you any solutions. Then you go on round and round and round with your brain and work it out. This is what you have to know definitely that you are connected to the all-pervading Power of Divine love. This is not love which is stupid - love that thinks. Love that is truth. Love that is joy.All this is built in within you, and now you have got realization, so instead of evolving yourself, you just jump into things which are of no value.And so many Sahaja Yogis get lost. I was recently told by someone that we have lost about hundred Sahaja Yogis, because they started following another Sahaja Yogi, who started seeing things. So they also wanted to see. If you can see something that means you are not there, simple thing.If I am, say, on the top of a mountain, then I’m there. But if I am away from the mountain I can see it. The more you see something that means you are away from it. Did you follow this point? So, the subtle, the sukshma, state is that where you are yourself that. So, how can you see yourself? This is the point Sahaja Yogis must understand. Anybody who can – “Mother, oh no he can see, he saw auras around You, he can see this thing.” So, how can you see?Because you are that, you can’t see. So, all such people who are very popular sometimes, in the beginning of Sahaja Yoga try to control you and befool you. And then you are thrown out.Now, this is what we call is the judgement. There are sieves and sieves and sieves through which you have to pass. Where you get enamoured by this or that, or you fall for this or that, all these things are there in a step-by-step how you are arriving. You are arriving at that point where your destruction is sure. Because you have to become the Spirit. You have to rise in spiritual life.And if your movement is downward, who can help you? This is a very interesting time as I told you, is the time of judgement. And at this time we have to be careful that we are our own judges.Nobody has to tell you that you are catching this one and catching that one. You yourself can feel it what chakras you are catching.Whatever I may try on My own to suck in all your problems, do whatever is possible, to keep you rising and rising and rising, but what I feel that this method of helping you will not make you so strong, because you’ll always think that, “After all, Mother will suck my problem.”If I get hundred letters, out of them ninety-nine are of Sahaja Yogis who are suffering from this trouble or that trouble. I’m amazed, you have all these qualities already awakened in you, they are in you. You use them.Somebody will say, “That fellow is troubling me, that wife is troubling me, the husband troubling me.” Just forgive! Just forgive!Your power of forgiveness is poor.Moreover, more than what the saints have written you have got the power of truth. You know the reality. Much more than those saints who have praised the Goddess.If you could just think as to what level you are sitting you wouldn’t fall, you wouldn’t go down that much. Only problem is you have to know that your ascent has to be spiritual, and already these qualities are very well balanced and put within you. More than dharma.Dharma maybe, you have a power to give up or to fall down, but these powers are never destroyed within you.I remember once I went to America first time and I met one gentleman. The next day he came and he told Me, “Mother, I am changed, I am changed, I am changed.”“What happened?”“You know, I used to hate my uncle, I never wanted to talk to him, very angry with him, but this time, just imagine, yesterday I met him, I went and hugged him, and kissed him, and I said, ‘Now, I have forgiven you, completely forgiven you, now don’t think about feeling guilty about it. He started looking at me like this.’”So, with the Kundalini awakening all these beautiful qualities to have will come up. And then your generosity, your beautiful being, which is enlightened by the Spirit will prove to the world that Sahaja Yoga is the truth. Yesterday’s beautiful dramas have shown us, but it should not be a mental satisfaction within you, that “I have got the realization, now I am this”.No. No. No mental. It’s a state, it’s a state, and that state to achieve, you have to really meditate and find time for meditation every night, every morning.The more you’ll meditate the better it will be.No excuses are to be given or to be convincing to yourself. Everything is unimportant.Your ascent is very important, if you really want to save this world from - in this Kali Yuga. I think today I have made it very clear to you what qualities already are instilled within you. They are there. They are not dharmas, but qualities. They are just within you, only thing you have turned your attention to something opposite, otherwise all these qualities are already instilled within you. They are already there. And nothing can destroy them, except for you yourself. If you have destroyed them, nobody can help. May God bless you all. (Puja begins)(Shri Ganesha’s mantra is recited three times. Children go to perform puja to Shri Ganesha. Ganesha Atharva Sheersha is recited.) Yogi: Seven ladies from the hosting countries who have not previously done puja to Shri Mataji, should come to do the puja. (Announcement is repeated in French) Could someone say that in Russian, please.Other yogi: Page Hindi 84. Jago He Jagadambe.Yogi: Only ladies who have never done the puja before, please (announcement is repeated in French and in German).(More bhajans: Vandana Karuya Matajila)Yogi: Hindi 87. (Bhajan: Shri Jagadambe Ayi Re)(Vishwa Vandita follows. Then Aarti and Mahamantras.)Shri Mataji: May God bless you all. May God bless you all.Guido: The ladies from the hosting countries may start to distribute the Prasad.

View online. Navaratri Puja, "Your Beautiful Qualities will prove the Truth of Sahaja Yoga". Cabella (Italy), 5 October 1997. [Upon arrival Shri Mataji is welcomed by yogis singing “Durgati Harani Durga Ambe”] Today is the sixth day of Navaratri.There have been many incarnations of the Goddess for different, different purposes. But when the great saints introspected themselves, who were worshipping the Mother, they found out that what She has done for us.The other day I told you the dharma is the innate valency of human beings. And they are ten. This is already established within us, but we deviate, deviate from dharma and all the problems come in, because to leave the dharma is not a human quality. But Goddess Herself has done so many things for us already, within us, though we are not aware of it. Is said that “ya Devi sarva bhuteshu” – “all those whom You have created” - means mostly the human beings – “What do You do? As what do You exist inside the human beings?”.Now, just introspect if you have these qualities within you or not, because they are given to you by the Goddess, by the Shakti within you. Like: ”Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu shanti rupena samstitha” - is very important, that You exist within human beings as peace.Do you find thus human beings who are peaceful within and without? Very difficult. But She has given you that, She has given you that peace which you have to achieve. Now it comes, because you have fallen off your human dharmas.So this peace that She has given you, you have to achieve through your ascent, through the Kundalini awakening.You are excited, all right. Or, you want to take revenge, you want to hurt others, you want to trouble others, you enjoy sometimes, even as Sahaja Yogis people enjoy hurting others, troubling others.So, the second one She says is: “Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu priti rupena samstitha”.Priti is the quality of loving, that a human being has been given the quality of loving. But, it’s not there. Because first nonsensical thing human beings have is jealousy.Now, supposing I gave some present to somebody, and some present to another one. Even in Sahaja Yoga they feel jealous. Very surprising. How can you, when the Goddess has given you the quality to love?Very, very common nonsense about it is that human beings are very jealous. But as Sahaja Yogis you should not, because that quality that the Goddess has given you is of loving.That quality should be shown - on the contrary you are very jealous. That means you are not a Sahaja Yogi, blessed by Shri Mataji - no. If you are blessed, then you will have no jealousy whatsoever.And this jealousy sometimes it goes to this extent that now, “We are, say, from Cabella, so you are from Albera”. Finished. These so close to each other, just like the two nostrils together. But there will be jealousy.There will be jealousy about, ”Why not Mother come to my country, if You can go to that country”. So this comes also from the ignorance that “This is mine, this is mine, this is yours”. This jealousy starts in such a funny manner that we do not realize also that She has given us the power to love. Tremendous power to love.Inauspicious power, our cannot be. But auspicious, dharmic power to love somebody. Means without any lust and greed, without any jealousy.But the human mind has developed itself so cunning that it is proud that it can be jealous of someone. Out of this jealousy only greed comes in, as I told you.Is a fact, because you feel jealous - so you want to buy the same thing.Then you must compete with others. If somebody has got a job better than yours, then you must compete with him.These things are all destructive and the powers of Goddess are constructive. She gives you all the powers that are absolutely constructive.Then She says, “Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu” - the saints have said it - “kshama rupena samstitha”. Kshama is what you call, is the forgiveness. Forgiveness from the heart. All right, somebody has been cruel to you, has been nasty to you, has exploited you, have troubled you, but you have the power, greater power to forgive. Do we use that power to forgive? Then for relaxing also, what does She do, that She gives you the sleep: “Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu Nidra rupena samstitha”.When you are tired and you can’t sleep She makes you sleep. She relaxes you.So the power of relaxation She does because She acts through parasympathetic nervous system. The sympathetic nervous system can excite you, can depress you. But the parasympathetic relaxes you, relaxes your heart, relaxes your body, and completely you feel relaxed and sleeping in the lap of your Mother.But there are many people who cannot sleep. Because they are thinking about something they have to achieve. If you cannot sleep, then something wrong with you. And when you cannot sleep I also cannot sleep.Whatever collectively happening, also works on Me. Anything wrong you do, that works on Me, specially collectively. So you cannot sleep because you are thinking of things which are of no value. Now, to overcome that in Sahaja Yoga we know we have to go into thoughtless awareness. But when your ego is working or...[This child is very disturbing. I’ve seen him all the time running about. Better tell him. Whose son is he?]You see, in India you’ll find children absolutely keeping quiet. Why? Because the mother takes up the responsibility to train the child.So many programs we have had, have you ever seen any child running about? Yesterday also they were running about here.The reason is mother doesn’t take responsibility as a mother to see that the children are properly brought up.Even you are so old, but I have to tell you. Whatever is good for you, for your society, a new generation that has come.In this new generation if you still are not behaving in a proper way, in abnormal way, how can you impress others? So, Mother has to tell you. The most interesting thing that the Mother has put in you is: ”Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu Bhranti rupena samshthita”.She puts you into delusion, because sometimes the children cannot understand unless and until they face the delusion.They have to face the delusion. She allows, allows you to go wrong to a point where you discovered you are lost. Very important it is that She plays, this is the Mahamaya part as they say. And this is discussed in every religion that we get lost with this delusion. Now, what are the delusions we have? We have the delusions of ego.Ego for men as if they are very powerful, that they can do what they like and they are not going to be punished for it.For women they too behave in the same manner.They don’t understand that this is a delusion the Mother has given into us, for us to find out that we are in the wrong. Because if you tell somebody, “This is wrong, you don’t do it”, still they are not matured enough so they’ll go on doing wrong things. So the Mother says, “All right, go on. Very nice, very good. Very good thing. You’ll jump in the sea? Jump”.Then when you realize that you have been in a delusion, then only you can return back. Otherwise, without any problem you cannot return. So many of you are so obstinate, so self-conscious. Whatever one may tell you, you will not listen. Whatever way you may try to convince you on a mental level, you won’t.So, the bhranti, the delusion, is beyond the mind. It is beyond the mind. It works out sometimes very well for difficult people.Now, when You are in a position of a Mother, You don’t want Your child to be ruined, naturally. She feels responsible, and She thinks that: “Now they have got connection with the Divine, and this connection should not be broken, that they should be all the time blessed and be happy.All this is within us, within us built-in, from our very childhood, but we forget, slowly, slowly we start losing it. Maybe the conditioning is such or maybe the ego is such, and maybe that they forget that they are realized souls. I am talking to you - to people who are realized souls. I’m not talking to people who are already lost or who may be on their way to Sahaja Yoga. But the way you are brought up, the way you have been told very sweetly with love, with affection, with kindness - and if you don’t understand that, then you go into bhranti.For example, it is also said that: ”Ya Devi sarva bhuteshu Lajja rupena samstitha”. Lajja, I don’t know how to describe, it’s not shyness. It is a kind of a shame about your body.Now they have beauty contests. India also they had beauty contests.[Why are you writing? What is he writing? There’s no need to write, there will be a tape. Alright?]Lajja rupena samstitha means you have to have shame of your body. That’s specially for women. As a child you will see, women are very shy. You see little girls, they are very shy. That shyness gradually disappears, but in the beginning they are even shy of Me.They come before Me, they’ll put down their head. They’ll not even say Namaste.Very sweet.And they don’t like people wearing funny dresses. I remember My granddaughter once, she saw one magazine in which there was a lady in a swimming dress. She said, “What are you doing? Better wear your dress, otherwise my Grandma will come and hit you hard”. (Shri Mataji laughs)To that lady was saying that; and then she opened and saw a man’s dress with just a small, little knicker. I don’t know why they do it. And then she said, “This one is, seems to be absolutely shameless fellow. He is going to have a bad time now.” And she closed it. And then she told the maidservant, “Burn this, burn this off. I don’t want to see.” Such a little girl she knew that it was wrong. But the way nowadays we are going about with the show of our body, and sometimes I feel that all these designers will die or will get bankrupt, because people wear such little clothes these days.There is no space for any artist to show his work or to show his art how he can dress you up.In Japan I asked them how - this is long time back, now Japanese are Americans but at that time - I said, “How is it you wear these dresses, these kimonos, done so well, very expensive and it takes time to wear that?”.So they said that, “You see, if God has made a beautiful body, then it is His art, and we have to make our art decorate it.So what we do is to make our art to decorate it.” I really liked it, because in India same thing. If there is a lady she has to wear a sari, which is being made very artfully, very beautifully, just to decorate her body, just to respect the body. But this seems to have gone with the influence of America, I should say, which are, they are brainless people, absolutely brainless, nothing to learn from them. Only two-hundred-year-old people and we start behaving in their manner, we don’t see even what is happening to their country, what sort of people they are, how they live, what is their idea, what is their goal in life. Every false guru has exploited them, because they are brainless. If they had brains they would never have accepted them. Ha, they have brains how to run a computer and how to run a television - mechanical things. But as far as their own body is concerned, they don’t know how to manage.In India they had a beauty competition and many sensible people opposed it, because it’s like selling your body and making money. What is the difference between prostitution and this? If you get money by selling your body, then it’s prostitution. You are not supposed to sell your body. That’s not what Goddess has done to you. But you should dress up well, different, different occasions are there, for those occasions you have to wear the way it is. The other day I gave a very nice sari which is, we call as paithani to one lady as a present. And we had a function for a book, was inaugurated, and this lady came there. So I said, “Why didn’t you wear a paithani?” She said, “What, there is no wedding on. How can I wear for this function paithani? There has to be a wedding.” Very sweet – “in the wedding I can wear.” It is all, you see occasions, places which are to be celebrated. Like in India, when women go to the temple or to worship the idols or anything, then they will wear all that is necessary to face the Goddess, after all.Imagine people coming for this program here wearing, I don’t know what they call it, but like jute, jute clothes - like hippies, what would happen to Me? I would disappear in thin air, I can tell you this much.So, one has to have respect for the body.That is what She has said first - that “Lajja rupena samsthita”.Now you might say that there are people who are taking the bath in the river and this and that, and give justification. But you are saints! You are realized souls! You don’t have to see those people who are not yet realized and who are misbehaving. You must do what a saint should do.There are so many qualities that the Goddess has given you. Another is kshudha rupena samstitha. She’s the One who has given us hunger. We have to eat our food.Nowadays there’s a fashion of becoming thin or whatever you may call. And you know so many diseases have developed. Anorexia, this thing, that thing, because women want to eat little.You can change the things that you are eating, but it’s not the aim of life to only look after your body. Body is not the only important thing. What is important is your Spirit.And She is the One who gives you the Kundalini. She is the One who give you a method by which you’ll ascend. But all the time worried about their body. This is something I can’t understand.Specially the women who are the shakti.Then another point is that they follow a fashion. Fashion is madness. When I was young I used to wear My blouses like this only. But in India also fashion started. They used to increase the size of the sleeves, then decreased the size of the sleeves, then some went up to here. I thought, “What is this nonsense? Why waste money like this?”. You have a particular design, and this is traditionally accepted design, that you should have.Why do you want to go on increasing and decreasing the size of your sleeves, according to the fashion. “This is the fashion”.Who makes the fashion? Devi? Devi has made the fashion? Who has made the fashion? Is these hungry, greedy people who are befooling you. And you are trying to follow fashions.Now, for example, I told that you must put oil in your head, at least on Saturday put sufficient oil and then wash your head. But you’ll not do that and then you’ll start losing your hair.I can understand if you have no time, you are a very busy man - but why? Why not do something where it is needed to look after yourself also. So, you’ll look after your body to thin down, you’ll lose your hair, eyesight will be weak, your teeth will be falling, and you will become very soon an old hag.Same with the men, nowadays men are also going to beauty parlor, I’m told.Too much money I think, and stupidity together. There is no need. If you lead a good, healthy life - you have to exercise and meditate.If you meditate you become peaceful. With that peace, you’ll be amazed, you’ll have so much of energy.So much energy is wasted in thinking.And what do you think? If you ask somebody “What are you thinking?” “Everything.” But “everything” means what? Why do you think so much? What is the need to think? It’s a habit, human habit to go on thinking about everything. For example, just now, there are three carpets here. Now, if I put attention on it I’ll just see how nice they are; I’ll just enjoy - enjoy what the artists have done, that’s all. No words - nothing. Just the enjoyment within yourself.But if you ask somebody else, he’ll just start saying, “Oh, this is not good. That’s not good. This much some price, that price, this thing, that thing.” The joy of that artist is finished.You cannot get that joy, that joy about which we are seeking. What we are seeking is joy, and even when you have got a way of doing it you do not achieve it.Because thinking is a reaction, reaction to everything, and it makes the life so miserable. It makes the life of the person who thinks and of others also.I’ll give you an example. This whole thing we got it done just because it’s very heavy rains and also we have problems of sometimes snowing. So I thought that’s a nice thing to have a nice thing done and it’s very well done, we got it. Now, there are thinking people in this Italy. Lots of them. That’s why it’s not progressing.Now, we applied three years back. Three years they kept our money locked up in the bank, imagine. And first time they said, “All right, everything is fine, it’s all right. You can have it.” It had seventy signatures of these Italians, so-called.And then they came round to say, the same people, “No, no, no, you must change it to copper”. I said, “Why?” “Because copper will be aesthetically very good.” But don’t they know, stupid people, that copper will look the same as they are looking? After one month only they will have the same colour? This is the idea of aesthetics, and now I have told them, “We don’t want your land, you keep it to yourself, give us back our money.” With a simple thing like that. Why? Because they have a committee, there is “rejune, bijune, sijune”. You have to go through all that nonsense, because they all sit down on chairs, very seriously, “We must discuss, we must consult, we must ask everyone, and then this and that”. And ultimately what comes? No progress of any kind. There is no peace. Maybe, I don’t know, maybe some underhand dealings are needed, for which they are feeling shy to tell Me.I don’t know what is the thing is, but still I can’t understand when the one office says “Yes” and again, when it comes back to it, it says “No”. Three years. So, what I am trying to say that thinking too much is a sign of ego. But, they don’t find any solutions, no solutions of any kind. They’ll never hit the solution. Because they are just discussing, arguing, thinking - they have no solutions.Now, it is important that Sahaja Yogis have to do introspection, introspection - inward. Introspection is inward-looking.Inward-looking. “Why I am thinking? What am I thinking? What is the need to think?”. You will become Nirvichara. Don’t allow your mind to befool you. This mind is like a monkey, I tell you, it’s really like a monkey. And when it starts working it makes you jump from this end to that end, that end to that end.And if you reach some conclusions, so-called, and if it is not achieved then you are the most miserable person. I have seen people thinning down only thinking about something which is absurd.And you can see out of this thinking what comes out on a global level also.What is the need to go to the moon? So many people are starved, are dying out. What is the need to go to Mars? What are they going to get from there?Because they formed a habit. First they came to India, then went to China, then went to this, then went to that; they can’t sit down, settle down. They can’t settle down in the house also. Specially men. If you are travelling by train, even if the train stops for two minutes men must get out. The wife will be worried now. And while the train will be moving then they’ll jump in. It’s a cracked brain, I think, like that - even why say they are like a monkey? Because monkeys won’t do that.It’s that they cannot stationary remain in one place. Now, in meditation you have to sit down, in one place, not to jump from here to there, there to there. This is very difficult.Women have other problems. While cooking they’ll meditate. They have no time! They have their friends, they have to go to shopping, to buy things and fill the house with all kinds of rubbish. They have no time for anything. They are also very adventurous. They want to do business, they want to do this, they want to do that. For meditation they have no time. So, settling down is very important. Settle down with yourself.So, once someone told Me, “Mother, if we settle down, we’ll become very fat.” (Shri Mataji laughs) All right, doesn’t matter - but you settle down.All sorts of excuses are there not to meditate. “Yes, I meditate, Mother, but you know, so difficult in these modern times. There are crises in our lives, there are problems in our lives.” But actually you’ll be amazed, when there’s a crisis, say, in My family or in Sahaja Yoga, immediately I become thoughtless. Spontaneously I become thoughtless, because the problem will be solved by the Paramchaitanya. The Paramchaitanya is going to solve the problem, why should I think?Forget it. Let the Paramchaitanya look after. If you don’t depend on your Paramchaitanya, it doesn’t help you. Doesn’t give you any solutions. Then you go on round and round and round with your brain and work it out. This is what you have to know definitely that you are connected to the all-pervading Power of Divine love. This is not love which is stupid - love that thinks. Love that is truth. Love that is joy.All this is built in within you, and now you have got realization, so instead of evolving yourself, you just jump into things which are of no value.And so many Sahaja Yogis get lost. I was recently told by someone that we have lost about hundred Sahaja Yogis, because they started following another Sahaja Yogi, who started seeing things. So they also wanted to see. If you can see something that means you are not there, simple thing.If I am, say, on the top of a mountain, then I’m there. But if I am away from the mountain I can see it. The more you see something that means you are away from it. Did you follow this point? So, the subtle, the sukshma, state is that where you are yourself that. So, how can you see yourself? This is the point Sahaja Yogis must understand. Anybody who can – “Mother, oh no he can see, he saw auras around You, he can see this thing.” So, how can you see?Because you are that, you can’t see. So, all such people who are very popular sometimes, in the beginning of Sahaja Yoga try to control you and befool you. And then you are thrown out.Now, this is what we call is the judgement. There are sieves and sieves and sieves through which you have to pass. Where you get enamoured by this or that, or you fall for this or that, all these things are there in a step-by-step how you are arriving. You are arriving at that point where your destruction is sure. Because you have to become the Spirit. You have to rise in spiritual life.And if your movement is downward, who can help you? This is a very interesting time as I told you, is the time of judgement. And at this time we have to be careful that we are our own judges.Nobody has to tell you that you are catching this one and catching that one. You yourself can feel it what chakras you are catching.Whatever I may try on My own to suck in all your problems, do whatever is possible, to keep you rising and rising and rising, but what I feel that this method of helping you will not make you so strong, because you’ll always think that, “After all, Mother will suck my problem.”If I get hundred letters, out of them ninety-nine are of Sahaja Yogis who are suffering from this trouble or that trouble. I’m amazed, you have all these qualities already awakened in you, they are in you. You use them.Somebody will say, “That fellow is troubling me, that wife is troubling me, the husband troubling me.” Just forgive! Just forgive!Your power of forgiveness is poor.Moreover, more than what the saints have written you have got the power of truth. You know the reality. Much more than those saints who have praised the Goddess.If you could just think as to what level you are sitting you wouldn’t fall, you wouldn’t go down that much. Only problem is you have to know that your ascent has to be spiritual, and already these qualities are very well balanced and put within you. More than dharma.Dharma maybe, you have a power to give up or to fall down, but these powers are never destroyed within you.I remember once I went to America first time and I met one gentleman. The next day he came and he told Me, “Mother, I am changed, I am changed, I am changed.”“What happened?”“You know, I used to hate my uncle, I never wanted to talk to him, very angry with him, but this time, just imagine, yesterday I met him, I went and hugged him, and kissed him, and I said, ‘Now, I have forgiven you, completely forgiven you, now don’t think about feeling guilty about it. He started looking at me like this.’”So, with the Kundalini awakening all these beautiful qualities to have will come up. And then your generosity, your beautiful being, which is enlightened by the Spirit will prove to the world that Sahaja Yoga is the truth. Yesterday’s beautiful dramas have shown us, but it should not be a mental satisfaction within you, that “I have got the realization, now I am this”.No. No. No mental. It’s a state, it’s a state, and that state to achieve, you have to really meditate and find time for meditation every night, every morning.The more you’ll meditate the better it will be.No excuses are to be given or to be convincing to yourself. Everything is unimportant.Your ascent is very important, if you really want to save this world from - in this Kali Yuga. I think today I have made it very clear to you what qualities already are instilled within you. They are there. They are not dharmas, but qualities. They are just within you, only thing you have turned your attention to something opposite, otherwise all these qualities are already instilled within you. They are already there. And nothing can destroy them, except for you yourself. If you have destroyed them, nobody can help. May God bless you all. (Puja begins)(Shri Ganesha’s mantra is recited three times. Children go to perform puja to Shri Ganesha. Ganesha Atharva Sheersha is recited.) Yogi: Seven ladies from the hosting countries who have not previously done puja to Shri Mataji, should come to do the puja. (Announcement is repeated in French) Could someone say that in Russian, please.Other yogi: Page Hindi 84. Jago He Jagadambe.Yogi: Only ladies who have never done the puja before, please (announcement is repeated in French and in German).(More bhajans: Vandana Karuya Matajila)Yogi: Hindi 87. (Bhajan: Shri Jagadambe Ayi Re)(Vishwa Vandita follows. Then Aarti and Mahamantras.)Shri Mataji: May God bless you all. May God bless you all.Guido: The ladies from the hosting countries may start to distribute the Prasad.

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Evening Program, Eve of Diwali Puja To [UNCLEAR] the Spirit of the whole universe for you I have composed this dream of mine. After hearing this, I hope you feel satisfied. It's more than satisfaction and then you give Me a blessing of vibrations. Pasayadaan is vibrations...... [INAUDIBLE] Sahaja Yogi: 'Je khalanchi venkati sando taya satkarmi rati vado bhoota paraspare pado maitra jeevanche' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: Now He describes that all the cruel people should give up their cruelty. Sahaja Yogi: ritambaro spuri pado [INAUDIBLE].... [Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] Shri Mataji: and there should be love between each other. See how He's describing Sahaja Yog. Sahaja Yogi: 'duritanche timir zaavo vishwa swadharma surye paho.......prani jat' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: He says that those who are away from truth, removed from truth, their darkness should go, that's what He's demanding. Viswa sugandha sulepa [INAUDIBLE] And the whole world should see the Sun of Self realization. Can you imagine? ..... [INAUDIBLE] and whatever then one wants he'll get it. Sahaja Yogi: 'Varshata sakala mangali Ishwar nishtaanchi mandiyali, anavarat bhumandali bhet tu bhoota' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: bhet tu, Sahaja Yogi: bhoota li Shri Mataji: bhoota hai, 'bhet tu bhoota,' varshata sakala mangali Ishwara? Sahaja Yogi: 'nishthanchi mandiyali' Shri Mataji: He says everywhere is the flow of auspiciousness and great saints will be there. That is, you all you see; He is describing and... Sahaja Yogi: 'anuvart bhumandali, bhet tu bhootali' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: anavarat bhu mandali bhet tu bhoota, taboo...... [Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] Sahaja Yogi: taboo, taboo... [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: Such people will be very much in number [Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] and they will be respected and it will become impossible to control themselves when you meet all the people whom you have created, see all Sahaja Yogis, describing Sahaja Yoga. 'Chhala Kalpataru,' this is for Sahaja Yogis; 'chala Kalpataroonche Arava, Chetana Chintamaniche gaav,' [Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] so He says now you who are the Sahaja Yogis, who are the forests of trees which give the boon of whatever people like. Kalpataru is a tree which gives you the boon for whatever you want. So He said “you are the ones, you are the ones” come along you are like the forest of those trees which give the boon. 'Chetana Chintamani Che gaav,...' [Wah! Wah! Mother expressing ?] You are the village or the we can say the community of having [UNAUDIBLE] awakened mind within you. 'Bolate je aranava,' you are the Oceans which speak, that's what He has called you 'Piyushanche,' full of ambrosia, full of ambrosia you are the Oceans of ambrosia, who can speak, who speak. Now look at that what He is saying about you, that's what you are 'Chandrme je alanchhana, martand je taphina' [UNCLEAR] you are like the moon which has no spot in it, spotlessly clean, you are the moon who are spotlessly clean and you are the Sun without any heat in it. 'Te Sarvahi...INAUDIBLE] Sahaja Yogi: 'Te Sarvahi sada sajjana....' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: These people who are always very [“Sajjanala Kai mhanatat- Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] very benevolent people, these are very benevolent people and they become relations of each other. Not your old relations, but you become relations of Sahaja Yogis with each other. It's a fact, see that's what He said. 'Kimbahuna Sarva Sukhi, Poorna honi tinhi Loki.' He says, otherwise all of you will be very happy, very happy from all sides and you will be complete people; perfect people in the three worlds. 'Bhaji jo... [Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] Sahaja Yogi: 'Bhajijo adipurushi, akhandit' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: akhandit... [INAUDIBLE] When you will worship the primordial. “Now, here they've said the Father”, you will become eternal. Aani... [INAUDIBLE] Sahaja Yogi: 'Aani Granthopajeviye, visheshi, Loki yiye, drushtadrushta vijaye, howave ji' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: Granthopajeviye, vishweshi, Loki yiye drushtadrushta vijaye ... [INAUDIBLE] ......... All right, “He says, you will be like books of eternal knowledge and in the whole world people will see, 'your eyes will see the eyes as Her 'drushtadrushta vijaye' and you will win people with your eyes full of love' and such people should be put Aarthi”. Ovalaychi, 'tethe mhane Shri Vishweshwarao ha hoil dan pasao' [INAUDIBLE]. “She will be called as Adishakti [-- the Primordial Mother - ed]”and She will give you the Pasayadaan. Pasayadaan means “vibrations” and He is asking that “O God give us Pasayadaan” and this will happen. By that the whole world will became extremely happy [Aala ?] You see I can't read Roman language, I am very bad I can know one language and not translation of that, nor do I know this Roman language which people use English to write about; they have to say something Marathi but it's not easy because it misses the points, I think and I can't read, so you see that's My incapability to read it. Specially in India, in the Church you see, they used to use this Roman thing and I could never sing. I could have understood what is this. But what He has said is that, “you are the ones who are this, who are that, I mean [UNCLEAR] He has called you as the, Kalpataru” means the ones who are the trees, who can give any boon you want and there are forest of it because you are so many of them. Understand? [UNCLEAR] and Chintamani che “you are the ones who are removal; you can remove all the worries of the people”. Imagine what a right description He has given; but I think, still Sahaja Yogis don't believe in themselves that they have all these powers and what they can do. It was Gyaneshwara who described you; but I wonder if you can describe yourself like that, because I don't know why it's not? They are very humble. Sahaja Yogis are very humble and that's why they don't believe that they could be this. But just think of all these false gurus, who have nothing; their Kundalini is absolutely dissolved inside. But, how much they talk? How much they tell? And their disciples also, same style you won't believe. I met one lady, the disciple of one guru and she started telling Me about her guru such a lot that I got up and walked into the... [UNAUDIBLE] requested him to give Me another seat, so when you have everything, you don't talk, you won't even tell your mother, you won't even tell your father, you won't even tell your neighbours all round. I mean you are so many, there were only twelve Disciples of Christ; and they spread the message of Christ. Of course, whatever they did, didn't turn out very well, but you can; because you have got Realization. You have got all the powers and you know you have the real knowledge. Not only real, but it is the knowledge of the Divine. A secret knowledge; everything you have but you don't talk. I would request you all of you to “anybody who meets you, just start talking in the plane, anywhere,” best is to wear My badge. So they will ask you questions, who is this? And then you go on telling who am I. The best way to spread Sahaja Yoga that you all should talk about Sahaja Yoga to others, where ever you meet anyone. Can you promise that? All right ... [Music begins] What a recital it was and despite the horrible wind. You know, he just went on without looking at it but actually it was so rhythmic I felt. Even the wind was dancing. Now I cannot, I mean I don't know what to say; but only thing is that I've never heard such a, such a malkans raga, never. In My life time, I've heard so many people but no one has played so well as this. These are the signs of a new era where such a talent will be shown; also everything was so wonderful and so good. I don't know how to thank them for this beautiful recital and... Also the French made it very wonderful evening for all of us and it was really a Diwali in a way but today this is the day the brothers and sisters and specially this day the brothers are worshipped by the sisters and are they've to be given something present you know. The boys have to give; so, that need not be now done this year. Let it be, doesn't matter. But, I think this kind of a Diwali is so beautiful and so energizing because vibrations were flowing, so many vibrations and the way you are appreciating this music, which is very different from yours and you are all engrossed in it. I hope all the people also from Africa have appreciated this music and they would like to go also to Academy in the name of My father. I never knew Spanish are in this, included in this group? No. But I know about him he is a very great tabla player you know, very great Spanish. It's very good and he was watching everything and only with watching, I am sure; he will pick up your tabla. Very dedicated, very good and happy to see people from all over the world here and tomorrow they want to do some Hawan. I don't know what time you can do it and this Mr. Wind is still there. There was this kind of a wind, also in Italy and I don't know, they said that it came from the South and froze the South Italy completely; which was never frozen before. Not the North, but the South that's all. I don't know what's happening to Italy now and this wind didn't disturb us much because it was dancing with your music. So, thank you very much all of you for also enjoying because I may be crazy about Indian music but I don't know how you people stand that. In any case, tomorrow is the program. I don't know which they want to have a little Hawana, it is important to do the Hawan and then pooja will start about I told them 6 o'clock; if they are ready. But, they are never ready by that time; I think Na. .... so. And it's a very small pooja; it's not big pooja, it's not a very big pooja but, latter on after pooja we spend more time. So as it is we have two programmes tomorrow. Those who want to join for Hawan can do it and I don't know where you will do the Hawan here or there outside here? Outside? This wind should not there anymore. All right, let's see, so I wish you all very very happy Diwali for next year and I think Portugal is the place for Diwali pooja no doubt. I.. I knew about the Portuguese that Vasco da Gama when he came to India was a very nice, simple man when he came back and he told the King that Indians are Christians. So he said how do you say they are the Christians? Because they worship Mother they don't worship Father as the Muslims do. So they are Christians or if they are Hindus; they are Hindu Christians. He was very simple man and a big research was done and what was the influence of the Portuguese on India but they lived there for quite some time and they never listened to our music that's one thing; nor did they understand anything of it. As it is now in Portugal to have this music itself is a great, I should say it's a very great adventure because to these people had never known. They used to think that we are noises that's all. English also they never learnt any music or nothing. So whatever it is, now this music has come to you. Once you know classical Indian music, you can sing any type of music; may be Spanish, may be the modern; anything because the voice gets trained so well. So I would say those who can afford should go to Nagpur and those who cannot afford should write to Me. We'll find something for them. So, Thank you very much all of you, enjoy your Diwali night. May God bless you.

Evening Program, Eve of Diwali Puja To [UNCLEAR] the Spirit of the whole universe for you I have composed this dream of mine. After hearing this, I hope you feel satisfied. It's more than satisfaction and then you give Me a blessing of vibrations. Pasayadaan is vibrations...... [INAUDIBLE] Sahaja Yogi: 'Je khalanchi venkati sando taya satkarmi rati vado bhoota paraspare pado maitra jeevanche' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: Now He describes that all the cruel people should give up their cruelty. Sahaja Yogi: ritambaro spuri pado [INAUDIBLE].... [Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] Shri Mataji: and there should be love between each other. See how He's describing Sahaja Yog. Sahaja Yogi: 'duritanche timir zaavo vishwa swadharma surye paho.......prani jat' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: He says that those who are away from truth, removed from truth, their darkness should go, that's what He's demanding. Viswa sugandha sulepa [INAUDIBLE] And the whole world should see the Sun of Self realization. Can you imagine? ..... [INAUDIBLE] and whatever then one wants he'll get it. Sahaja Yogi: 'Varshata sakala mangali Ishwar nishtaanchi mandiyali, anavarat bhumandali bhet tu bhoota' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: bhet tu, Sahaja Yogi: bhoota li Shri Mataji: bhoota hai, 'bhet tu bhoota,' varshata sakala mangali Ishwara? Sahaja Yogi: 'nishthanchi mandiyali' Shri Mataji: He says everywhere is the flow of auspiciousness and great saints will be there. That is, you all you see; He is describing and... Sahaja Yogi: 'anuvart bhumandali, bhet tu bhootali' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: anavarat bhu mandali bhet tu bhoota, taboo...... [Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] Sahaja Yogi: taboo, taboo... [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: Such people will be very much in number [Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] and they will be respected and it will become impossible to control themselves when you meet all the people whom you have created, see all Sahaja Yogis, describing Sahaja Yoga. 'Chhala Kalpataru,' this is for Sahaja Yogis; 'chala Kalpataroonche Arava, Chetana Chintamaniche gaav,' [Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] so He says now you who are the Sahaja Yogis, who are the forests of trees which give the boon of whatever people like. Kalpataru is a tree which gives you the boon for whatever you want. So He said “you are the ones, you are the ones” come along you are like the forest of those trees which give the boon. 'Chetana Chintamani Che gaav,...' [Wah! Wah! Mother expressing ?] You are the village or the we can say the community of having [UNAUDIBLE] awakened mind within you. 'Bolate je aranava,' you are the Oceans which speak, that's what He has called you 'Piyushanche,' full of ambrosia, full of ambrosia you are the Oceans of ambrosia, who can speak, who speak. Now look at that what He is saying about you, that's what you are 'Chandrme je alanchhana, martand je taphina' [UNCLEAR] you are like the moon which has no spot in it, spotlessly clean, you are the moon who are spotlessly clean and you are the Sun without any heat in it. 'Te Sarvahi...INAUDIBLE] Sahaja Yogi: 'Te Sarvahi sada sajjana....' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: These people who are always very [“Sajjanala Kai mhanatat- Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] very benevolent people, these are very benevolent people and they become relations of each other. Not your old relations, but you become relations of Sahaja Yogis with each other. It's a fact, see that's what He said. 'Kimbahuna Sarva Sukhi, Poorna honi tinhi Loki.' He says, otherwise all of you will be very happy, very happy from all sides and you will be complete people; perfect people in the three worlds. 'Bhaji jo... [Mother discussing with the Sahaja Yogi ?] Sahaja Yogi: 'Bhajijo adipurushi, akhandit' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: akhandit... [INAUDIBLE] When you will worship the primordial. “Now, here they've said the Father”, you will become eternal. Aani... [INAUDIBLE] Sahaja Yogi: 'Aani Granthopajeviye, visheshi, Loki yiye, drushtadrushta vijaye, howave ji' [INAUDIBLE] Shri Mataji: Granthopajeviye, vishweshi, Loki yiye drushtadrushta vijaye ... [INAUDIBLE] ......... All right, “He says, you will be like books of eternal knowledge and in the whole world people will see, 'your eyes will see the eyes as Her 'drushtadrushta vijaye' and you will win people with your eyes full of love' and such people should be put Aarthi”. Ovalaychi, 'tethe mhane Shri Vishweshwarao ha hoil dan pasao' [INAUDIBLE]. “She will be called as Adishakti [-- the Primordial Mother - ed]”and She will give you the Pasayadaan. Pasayadaan means “vibrations” and He is asking that “O God give us Pasayadaan” and this will happen. By that the whole world will became extremely happy [Aala ?] You see I can't read Roman language, I am very bad I can know one language and not translation of that, nor do I know this Roman language which people use English to write about; they have to say something Marathi but it's not easy because it misses the points, I think and I can't read, so you see that's My incapability to read it. Specially in India, in the Church you see, they used to use this Roman thing and I could never sing. I could have understood what is this. But what He has said is that, “you are the ones who are this, who are that, I mean [UNCLEAR] He has called you as the, Kalpataru” means the ones who are the trees, who can give any boon you want and there are forest of it because you are so many of them. Understand? [UNCLEAR] and Chintamani che “you are the ones who are removal; you can remove all the worries of the people”. Imagine what a right description He has given; but I think, still Sahaja Yogis don't believe in themselves that they have all these powers and what they can do. It was Gyaneshwara who described you; but I wonder if you can describe yourself like that, because I don't know why it's not? They are very humble. Sahaja Yogis are very humble and that's why they don't believe that they could be this. But just think of all these false gurus, who have nothing; their Kundalini is absolutely dissolved inside. But, how much they talk? How much they tell? And their disciples also, same style you won't believe. I met one lady, the disciple of one guru and she started telling Me about her guru such a lot that I got up and walked into the... [UNAUDIBLE] requested him to give Me another seat, so when you have everything, you don't talk, you won't even tell your mother, you won't even tell your father, you won't even tell your neighbours all round. I mean you are so many, there were only twelve Disciples of Christ; and they spread the message of Christ. Of course, whatever they did, didn't turn out very well, but you can; because you have got Realization. You have got all the powers and you know you have the real knowledge. Not only real, but it is the knowledge of the Divine. A secret knowledge; everything you have but you don't talk. I would request you all of you to “anybody who meets you, just start talking in the plane, anywhere,” best is to wear My badge. So they will ask you questions, who is this? And then you go on telling who am I. The best way to spread Sahaja Yoga that you all should talk about Sahaja Yoga to others, where ever you meet anyone. Can you promise that? All right ... [Music begins] What a recital it was and despite the horrible wind. You know, he just went on without looking at it but actually it was so rhythmic I felt. Even the wind was dancing. Now I cannot, I mean I don't know what to say; but only thing is that I've never heard such a, such a malkans raga, never. In My life time, I've heard so many people but no one has played so well as this. These are the signs of a new era where such a talent will be shown; also everything was so wonderful and so good. I don't know how to thank them for this beautiful recital and... Also the French made it very wonderful evening for all of us and it was really a Diwali in a way but today this is the day the brothers and sisters and specially this day the brothers are worshipped by the sisters and are they've to be given something present you know. The boys have to give; so, that need not be now done this year. Let it be, doesn't matter. But, I think this kind of a Diwali is so beautiful and so energizing because vibrations were flowing, so many vibrations and the way you are appreciating this music, which is very different from yours and you are all engrossed in it. I hope all the people also from Africa have appreciated this music and they would like to go also to Academy in the name of My father. I never knew Spanish are in this, included in this group? No. But I know about him he is a very great tabla player you know, very great Spanish. It's very good and he was watching everything and only with watching, I am sure; he will pick up your tabla. Very dedicated, very good and happy to see people from all over the world here and tomorrow they want to do some Hawan. I don't know what time you can do it and this Mr. Wind is still there. There was this kind of a wind, also in Italy and I don't know, they said that it came from the South and froze the South Italy completely; which was never frozen before. Not the North, but the South that's all. I don't know what's happening to Italy now and this wind didn't disturb us much because it was dancing with your music. So, thank you very much all of you for also enjoying because I may be crazy about Indian music but I don't know how you people stand that. In any case, tomorrow is the program. I don't know which they want to have a little Hawana, it is important to do the Hawan and then pooja will start about I told them 6 o'clock; if they are ready. But, they are never ready by that time; I think Na. .... so. And it's a very small pooja; it's not big pooja, it's not a very big pooja but, latter on after pooja we spend more time. So as it is we have two programmes tomorrow. Those who want to join for Hawan can do it and I don't know where you will do the Hawan here or there outside here? Outside? This wind should not there anymore. All right, let's see, so I wish you all very very happy Diwali for next year and I think Portugal is the place for Diwali pooja no doubt. I.. I knew about the Portuguese that Vasco da Gama when he came to India was a very nice, simple man when he came back and he told the King that Indians are Christians. So he said how do you say they are the Christians? Because they worship Mother they don't worship Father as the Muslims do. So they are Christians or if they are Hindus; they are Hindu Christians. He was very simple man and a big research was done and what was the influence of the Portuguese on India but they lived there for quite some time and they never listened to our music that's one thing; nor did they understand anything of it. As it is now in Portugal to have this music itself is a great, I should say it's a very great adventure because to these people had never known. They used to think that we are noises that's all. English also they never learnt any music or nothing. So whatever it is, now this music has come to you. Once you know classical Indian music, you can sing any type of music; may be Spanish, may be the modern; anything because the voice gets trained so well. So I would say those who can afford should go to Nagpur and those who cannot afford should write to Me. We'll find something for them. So, Thank you very much all of you, enjoy your Diwali night. May God bless you.

11/2/1997

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Diwali Puja: Shri Lakshmi and Money

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Diwali Puja. Sintra, Lisbon (Portugal) - 2 November 1997. Today, we have gathered here to worship Shri Lakshmi. In Diwali, in India, they worship Lakshmi because a great rakshasa called Narakasura was killed; also that Lakshmi came out of the sea, at the same time, long time back. I mean, I should say, this is like Her different appearances on the same geography [unsure]. Lakshmi is the Goddess which gives us wealth, gives us prosperity. She is very blissful, no doubt. She gives you protection and also She is very humble because She stands on the lotus. She is very light, [which] means She does not put Her pressure on anyone. These are symbols of Shri Lakshmi. But also She is a part of Mahamaya in the modern times only. When people get Lakshmi, the money, they don’t understand that She is their Mother firstly, and She is to be respected. When this kind of a perverse idea of Shri Lakshmi comes in such countries, such people meet their last end and destruction of the worst type ever. So this Lakshmi has to be used with a big balance, like standing on a lotus and not get into the pond, where there are all kinds of creatures to eat you all. You have to stand on the lotus: that means that you are above all the lures of this Maya. Also in Sanskrit languages, we call Lakshmi as the Maya. If somebody gets lot of money, they will say, “You got a lot of maya!” Now, this Maya plays the tricks. If money, prosperity was the salvation, then there would have been no problems in this world. Because those people who have money always get ruined. If they are not ruined, their children, their grandchildren get ruined. This principle of Lakshmi within us is very dubious and the allurement is so much that people see somebody having a good car these days, they think, “Aaah! What a man he is!” In any case, he is not going to give you the car! If somebody is having lots of palaces or buildings people start admiring them! This is Kali Yuga. They start admiring: “See this man is so rich!" Even [with] clothes: people see you wearing clothes which are very well tailored; might be from some designers [so] they think no end of that man. For example, in England, there is another befooling place called ‘Saville Row’. So if you want to buy one suit, you have to pay sometimes £3000. Now, people are so stupid that now if they wear a suit from Saville Row, they put the brand outside: “Saville Row”! All such tomfoolery is going on all over the world. The clothes have no meaning, their lifestyle has no meaning. Ultimately they end up in Swiss bank! The Lakshmi Tattwa of Swiss bank is also now showing its teeth, and if you read what’s happening to them, I mean, they are shaking, they don’t know. They went to this limit that they took the teeth, golden teeth of the Jews! I mean, it’s going too far! All this tomfoolery has been going on. They have military services - why? Who is going to conquer that country? Even Napoleon didn’t do that. And they have made big caves to keep their weapons there. Who is going to attack them? Stupid people! Suffering from ego. But the attack has come and this attack is so serious that they might be completely shattered and destroyed. Now, who falls for this kind of thing, you should see, are the people who are crooks, who are dishonest, who are absolutely adharmis. They can be mafia dons or they can be some thugs, some black marketeers, some smugglers. So, going against the Lakshmi principle are so many these days. One fellow who was thrown out of Sahaja Yoga, because he was trying to be very dominating and all that, he said: “That’s better!” I said: “Why?” He’s doing now smuggling, making money out of smuggling and he has become very rich, according to him. But it comes to an end and a very tragic, bad end. Money is such a lure for human beings that it kills all sense of decency of higher values, everything. A brother who is very nice and a good fellow, if he gets money out of proportion by doing hanky-panky, he neglects his mother, father, brothers, sisters, everyone. So I would say, then it comes to that point that Lakshmiji becomes a bhoot then and all Her blessings become a challenge to your dignity. Now, certain countries, like America which is the area for Shri Krishna, because He’s Kubera, they have no money as such. I have seen [that] they are all poor, they are all indebted. So many Indians went to America and they can’t come to India now. “Why?” “We are indebted.” “Why are you indebted?” “Oh, we get everything free, now, you see, the bank gives us loan. We can have the best lifestyle!” So they will have three mercedes: “It’s nothing! Three mercedes is nothing! You should have Rolls Royce’s. We should have this!” For what? What do you get out of it? Now of course, little bit they are shaken up with the stock exchange and all that nonsense they had started, all this joke and all these very big camouflages. All now are coming out. So, this is no Lakshmi, because Lakshmi must give you dignity, prosperity and respect. I think Americans understood about it, so they became philanthropist, means they are giving money to people. But to whom did they give money? All the names these people took from South Africa were all given money by the philanthropists of America. What has happened to their wisdom? That 16-year old boy, he went there and then all ages went there and made a very big money. All this money making proposition… Can you give some seat to those musicians? So what is the matter if there is a blessing of Lakshmi? Why a man who gets the blessing of Lakshmi becomes so funny, so stupid and ultimately ends up his life that people are not there even to pick up his dead body? What is the difference between money and Lakshmi? She gives you money, all right, agreed, but when She is giving the money, what happens to that money which comes to you, is a very subtle thing [which] one should understand. In India if you give, say, a hundred rupees to your servant, immediately he’ll go to drink somewhere. First, idea will come [as to] what he should do: he’ll go for a drink of the hard one. I mean, your murkha is nowhere near that! Such hard one they make in India, you know. It is called as ‘hath bhatti’: means ‘made with hands’. So in hundred rupees, they are willing to go. I mean, that means any money you give to them, it spoils their life completely. Lakshmi has been given, all right, so what happens to this Lakshmi? She changes Her form and Her form is so bad that you are completely ruined with that! So, now we have to understand what is the way we can use the Lakshmi. Supposing I get money then I will go to the market and I’ll see something nice: “Aaah! This is very good for this Sahaja Yogi!” Or I will say, “This will be very handy for our ashram.” Immediately the mind starts working in a very socialistic way, I should say, not individualistic. For example, I went to Rajasthan and I saw such a lot of sand, just like a big desert, big dunes, everything, and people starving. So I said, “How to get money to these people?” So, I said, “Let me start a factory, factory with the unbreakable glass,” Which they make only in France. They make it very cheap and it’s regarded as a very cheap thing, but not in India. In India, if you go to some elite’s house, they’ll offer you tea in these unbreakable things. They think it’s very elite. You know, it depends on what you think about. And they are very proud of it. So, I said, if we make these things in India, these poor people, you know, because there’s so much sand and sand is needed by trucks. So I will utilise this to make this beautiful factory here, and then give them some support to live well. Now, when I went to one place called as Warna - you all had come also once. There’s a gentleman who was a disciple of Gandhiji and he’s organised this Warna company for distributing milk. It became so very rich, so very rich, it’s a co-operative, so he started giving money to all the co-operative people, those who were labour there. Now, this labour had never seen that money, so he came to me, touched my feet and said, “Mother, you tell me now, what should I do? I am so unhappy with the development of this Warna, because there are prostitutes who arrived from Bombay, there are all kinds of hard things which have come from Bombay and these people are smoking like hell, they are taking drugs!” “Ay?” “Yes! Wherever there is money, the drug goes there. And the children are becoming absolutely useless, they don’t want to study, they even slap their parents!” So he said, “This was not Gandhiji’s ideal, now what has happened?" He says, “This is a curse of money.” And he was crying. Now, how can Lakshmi become a curse? It does! It is in the Nabhi. What a central position it has. And when this Nabhi starts working, it is a very remarkable thing that you feel [like] gobbling the food all the time with this Nabhi. You go on eating, go on eating like mad and then some bhoot comes in to eat also with you inside the Nabhi. Then you can eat so much that no human beings can eat like that, except for the people who are rich. Then you start a big science or what you can call etiquettes. I don’t want to hurt anybody: I mean, if you are eating well I don’t mind, eat well. But the first part is, because today is Diwali, I’m trying to tell you all these interesting stories. I went many times for dinner with French diplomats: my goodness! Now, me and my husband don’t drink. So for forty-five minutes they were only discussing what they will have today! Then they remembered [that] yesterday they had that, the day before they had that, so there should be variety. So, then they came down to something, not all of them drinking the same [but] different, different. So, they came to some point: “All right, we’ll have this.” But some people asked for something which was not available. So they said, “You have to have it!” and they shouted at them. My goodness! They took forty-five minutes to decide what they are going to eat! It’s regarded as French etiquettes, I think. And we two [were] chief guests, myself and my husband: looking at this man and looking at that woman, didn’t know what to do with these etiquettes! We were thinking, “Now better go!” Then came to food. They are so particular: “I like this and I like that!” They are worse than Indians, I tell you! And they took at least, at least, eighty minutes to decide what they will eat. Ultimately, they found something nice, each different: and the restaurant people were trying to pamper their ego: “Oh, what a thing you have chosen! This is the best!” (laughter) So they started serving. The cheese was smelling so awful, I tell you! We couldn’t bare it, both of us, so my husband told them, “Today is our fasting day for both of us!” (laughter) He said, “Why is it a fasting day?” He says, “In India, we have, you know, fasting like this, sometimes we have to fast; today is ours.” But I told him, “Here, one day you are saying today is our fasting, but we have to go to so many dinners, what will you do?” He said, “Everywhere it’s better to say that we are fasting!” Such a horrible cheese they brought and they started boasting that they have two hundred types of cheese! I said, “Two hundred types of the smelly ones, from where did you get?” They said, “This is French perfection!” I said, “What is this French perfection?” But then, you know, tears came into my eyes. CP said, “Why are you crying?” “I’m not crying, but I think what will happen to these people with their cheese? Where will they go? Even if they go to hell, people will throw them away with the smell of the cheese!” (laughter) Then I read how this cheese came in. So they said there was a big snowfall and they had put some big, big containers of milk in a cave, and people forgot about it. Snowfall was there for twenty days, whatever it was, and they just forgot about it. So, after one year, they got the smell coming out of it; so they went and saw the cheese being formed, can you imagine? This is the beginning of the end. Actually, one should never eat anything that is kept overnight, normally. But now they have got fridges, so you can keep it for two days, three days at the most. Like on the ship they keep it. But this I couldn’t understand that, this cheese, which they told me is very old. I said, “Really?” And they sell it by that, how old it is. And their wines, if they are, say, two hundred years old it is two hundred times more expensive. So, it’s such a bhootish thing to eat all that. So, when the Lakshmi goes into the hands of bhoots on a very less level, I should say, then it goes into the heads of people who want to exploit money, exploit the poor people, exploit countries which are downtrodden. They go on like this, collecting money, you know, looting, looting, looting. When English came to India, we did know, [that] they used to take brides. On Diwali day if you went there without any present they would say, “Oh, baksheesh? You must give some presents.” And what they liked was our country liqueur. I never knew this but later on I came to know, because my husband became a collector of Meerut. And there where bottles of country liqueurs kept in that house! But that house was itself more than hundred years old. Long time back it was kept but still, some of them were there. We could have sent them to England to sell, it would have been a good idea! So, the older it is [they think] it’s better. This Lakshmi I think becomes old and dies and there is alakshmi. ‘Alakshmi’ means when you have money and you don’t have the qualities of a person who should have money. In that quality of alakshmi, you become very miserly, you don’t want even to help your brothers and sisters, you don’t want to give any money to anyone. And even if you give it, you give it to false gurus and wrong things. This is up to, we can say, is alakshmi. The behaviour becomes very arrogant, so arrogant that you behave like horses! People look like horses: they walk like horses. But I don’t know if horses have ego. If you see these people, you just don’t understand what has gone wrong with them. There is one gentleman who started an aeroplane business, aeroplane business in India. I won’t take his name, but say some ‘Majidiya’ or something. And my granddaughter met him with my grandson-in-law and they were walking like this, talking like this! They couldn’t understand these two persons; so, they came and talked to them, “Who are you?” and all that. And then they said, “We are this Majidiya!” So, my granddaughter said, “Who is Majidiya?” My goodness! They fell from heavens! “You don’t know who are Majidiyas? Do you read newspapers or not?” Then her husband came in, he said, “I do.” “Now what do you want to say? We are Majidiyas!” He said, “Who are Majidiyas?” “You don’t know? What sort of business you do? What is this?” Such stupid things they did that these children felt that there’s no use having any business; if business means this kind of behaviour: very indecent, very arrogant. They don’t know how to relate to people! They don’t know. And after some time, I heard that their business was completely finished, was a flop as they call it: flop. So now we have to realise that this Lakshmi, how it takes us to wrong things. Firstly, She makes you very egoistical, somehow. The man who has money starts behaving like that. One cannot understand how a person who was normal suddenly becomes like this, starts talking like this! He might earn money even in the horse races! Around the Lakshmi is the valency of dharma. There is, around the Lakshmi, the dharma. And this dharma if you cross - that’s the best place where they can cross the dharma - then, you can do whatever you like, which is adharmi which is irreligious, which is hideous. You have to just cross that limit of that dharma, you have to just deviate from dharma. Now, as I said many a times, that ten valencies human beings have got; but apart from that, there are many dharmas which are surrounding it like angels. Like, first dharma is your love for humanity: is the first dharma. But if you say from that end when you start, it starts with Stri-dharma, is the dharma of a woman: how she should live, how she should get married, how she should look after her children, what should be her behaviour. All [this] is Stri-dharma. And then is Patni-dharma, is the wife, wife’s dharma, what should be her dharma. In her dharma she looks nice. If she gives up her dharma then she is a prostitute. So, then is Pati-dharma: how should be a husband, how he should behave towards his family, how should he pay attention towards his wife, about the whole entire family, the whole parivar (परिवार), as they call it: all the relations. That is his dharma. But beyond that is the dharma of Satya-dharma: how much he sticks to truth. Then the dharma for creativity: in creativity as you know very well these days, with money people are standing on their heads or I don’t know what they are doing, because the amount of nonsense they are producing all over the world in the name of modernism is no way is Kala-dharma, no way. Then we have also politics, Rajkaran-dharma. Also this dharma is there. Now taking bribes, I mean the kind of things that are going on: corruption, all kinds of things that are going on, competition, fighting and all that. They are falling from their dharma of Rajkaran. Education, same thing; we call it Shiksha-dharma. All such things are dharmas. There’s a kind of a principle which we have to keep otherwise you can topple down from the lotus, and that’s what happens. Now we have also Rashtra-dharma. The Rashtra-dharma is [to] your country; there’s a dharma of your Rashtra. When you have to fight for your country, you should. But you should not be aggressive on other countries, should not right to dominate other countries, nor you should bring a bad name to your country. It’s very important! Sahaja Yogis have all these intact, absolutely, because you are standing on the lotuses already. You don’t have this problem; normally not. Once in a while there are people who behave like that, but mostly Sahaja yogis don’t fall into these traps; that’s why their Lakshmi Tattwa will definitely improve. They’ll have little problems here and there. But without problems, if you get Lakshmi, you will not value for Her. So, with little problems, you get the Lakshmi. But Lakshmi doesn’t give you all this imbalance. Such a man has to be extremely balanced because, beyond that, is the step of Mahalakshmi, where your seeking starts, where you become a seeker. You go beyond Lakshmi principle, and this Mahalakshmi principle starts coming into it. I would say the Western countries this consumerism has started, and it’s such a funny one: in America, one lady was married to an Indian and he used to tell me how this consumerism works. I said, “How?” He said, “I gave my wife money to buy two shirts for me because I had no shirts. So, she went and bought five skirts.” So, I said, “You have so many skirts, why did you buy the skirts?” “Because in this money I could buy five skirts instead of two shirts, so I bought five skirts." So he said, “I can’t wear skirts!” “So, how I should correct her?” he said. I said, “You do one thing: tell her you want to buy some skirts for her and go and buy five shirts. Then she will realise that if the money was given to her for one purpose, it should be used for that.” This is a very subtle principle which I follow, because I don’t understand money. So, what I do, whatever money I get, I put packets: this is for this, this is for this, this is for this, into packets. But I don’t understand, and I don’t write accounts. I am very bad about all that. Somebody else does that. Now, if I spend some money from one pocket for some emergency, then I again fill it back. It’s written there: so much is there, so much is there. So, the money is available at the right time for whatever I want to do and the money is in the packet. It is not in the open thing that I can just, “I want to buy a Mercedes. I want to buy a Rolls Royce!” No nothing doing! It is for some purpose, and there is no need. So, when you go to the shop and you see something, you won’t buy it, because that money is not kept for that particular thing. For Sahaja Yogis it’s very easy to handle their money with respect. So, you go to any shop, you won’t buy anything. But my nature also is spontaneous. So, I went to Frankfurt, changing [plane]. They said, “Mother, there is a very nice watch shop.” I just thought, “I am going to get three son-in-laws and what am I going to give them?” So, I went to that shop and I found such beautiful, beautiful things. But I had not kept any money for the watch; but I said, “I must buy!” One of the watches turned out to be a very unique one, I must tell you, which is no more available. Because of my eyes, I saw [that] this is something unique. And my son-in-law is so overwhelmed. He is quite rich, he has no problems. But he said, “This watch you cannot get it!” Then an article came about that particular watch. So he has kept it with him. So to have something, it should have a value behind it: that is the dharma part. The value behind it: what is the value? When you want to buy something just don’t buy because you are mad: I mean instead of shirts you buy skirts; not that way. But anything that has an artistic value or some special value, then you should buy that. Now this sari I am wearing, it has a special value. Why? Not [just] that it is made with hands, is a very beautiful design it has, no. This was made in a place called Paithan which was the capital of a kingdom which belonged to my forefathers [the] Shalivanas; and these saris were made there, Paithani. And they used to sell it to people. Now they have becoming expensive [but] in those days they were cheaper. Now, it has that value. They were very honest, very religious. They were called Shalivanas because they used to give shawls to the Goddess. They spread their kingdom very much; and also there is a calendar in their name. But the kind of life they led: they were just very generous people. And they have made beautiful temples, beautiful places for people to rest near the river; I mean, so many beautiful things they have done. Apart from that, Rama and Sita, when they went to Dandakaranya, they went to this place, and you have the place where Sita took Her bath, Her bathing place. There’s a little river flowing there, and how it was covered from all the side and how the light was coming - so beautiful. But whatever Rama had done they redecorated it with the Rajput style art. Then also there was a very beautiful temple, I saw that they had made. Also, I don’t know how, there was some water flowing and there was Shri Mahadeva’s, a big thing, pinda (linga), very big. And also there was a Parvati’s statue. So old as that! I don’t know if it was put by Rama or by my own, you can call them the, great, great, great grandparents. But the beauty about that place is that it shows that Sita used to worship Mahadeva. The water was flowing, somehow by nature inside, up there in a stream, and She used to take the water and put it on that pinda. How deep these people were, those who built that temple. Such a beautiful temple they have made. So many temples are built like this in India by people who had money; and they believed that if you spend your money in this kind of work, you are blessed. I bought a land, near the River Nira — that’s my own name, ‘Nira’ — and this land I just bought it just like that without thinking. And what they told [me was] that their guru, Shalivanas guru, was Shandilya, and this place belonged to him, long time back, which was an ashram of Shandilya. Exactly the same [land]. And that land I bought, very surprisingly. Then in the newspaper, it came out, everything about that land. And this land was the place where a great devotee of Shri Vishnu, Prahlada (प्रह्लाद), was playing. So, you must have heard about Prahlad. His mother had a husband: Hiranyakashipu (हिरण्यकशिपु) was her husband, a horrible rakshasa, so she ran away from there and who help her was Indra. He brought this lady to the place of Guru Shandilya, and Shandilya told Indra, that, “You don’t put any effort for her. I will look after her. And the child that is going to be born to this lady is going to get the avatar of Narasimha.” You know Narasimha is the man and the lion. He said, “How can that be?” He said, “It is so.” So Indra left her there. The child was born [and] till five years, that child used to play in that land which I have bought. I mean, I didn’t know about it ,but I just saw it; I was surprised. But when the child grew up, up to five years he had to go back to his father. I don’t know how many of you read about Prahlada? Raise your hands, I would like to know. Upaar karo (Hindi: lift them), let me see. His father tried to kill him and torture him but he had certain boons, so Shri Vishnu appeared as Narasimha, means the lion and the human form. And then He killed this Hiranyakashipu, the father. Now, imagine how it was that thousands of years back this must have happened, and I should purchase that land. And there is a very beautiful temple built about three hundred years back by Maharashtrians. So, the story is that Prahlada came into the dream of the people who wanted to built the temple and told them that, “I have already made a statue of Narasimha along the River Nira.” Imagine the name of the river is also mine! “And if you can walk along the banks of Nira River very close to the temple, I have made the statue in sand.” It’s a miracle! So, they went there and they saw that statue. They brought it back and installed it in that temple. And it’s still there — made of sand. Also they say there’s a kind of a river or a water flow, a very small one, just like the finger, that flows down from the top — God knows how! So, now see the value: the value of money which was collected to built this temple had such an old value. So the value is not money. This, one should understand. What is the value of the thing? If you want to give something to others, then the feelings you have in your heart is the value, and that value is the real Lakshmi. When you are, say, building a house, the plans you make, the things you do: what is the idea behind and what you are trying to express through that house is the value of that house. Once you understand that, you have to buy, with this Lakshmi, or you have to use this Lakshmi for certain value and not for showing off or for money. This superficialness that we have about money itself is like an ordinary glass. But if you put, behind the glass, the mercury, you can see the value. So, when you start buying something, what is the purpose? Why are you buying? This will determine the value. Like, last time I came to Portugal and I said, “We’ll go and buy some terracotta.” But they are very expensive. I said, “This is the price.” But I wanted to buy terracotta from Portugal because it’s very rich in that. So, we went to one factory, and the factory was quite far out. None of them could find out, but I told them, “It’s here only! Just go and see.” And then we bought the terracotta. But on our way, I told [them], “Stop. Stop here. Stop!” So, they stopped. There was a shop. I had to buy some things for Sahaja Yogis in India and also for some people in Cabella. And that shop had such beautiful cottons. There were Sahaja Yogis from here who saw that. Such beautiful clothes, and I bought a lot of it. I said, “Thank God! The problem [of] presents are finished now for India.” So joy giving it was. Everybody was surprised: “Why suddenly in a place where never Mother has been there, suddenly She finds?” It has a value because I wanted to buy something for Indians, to be given as presents. So, if your Lakshmi is say, this much, once you add to it a value it becomes so big. The sign of a person who is a lakshmipati is this: he should have a house like a lotus in the hands of the Goddess, he should protect people who are depending on him and, from the left hand, he should give. This is the image of the Lakshmi. This is what the Lakshmi is within you. If you have these four things in balance, without conditioning, without ego, then you are a Sahaja Yogi, otherwise, you are not. On a Diwali day, we have to promise ourselves that, whatever we are going to get now, as Lakshmi principle, or as a Lakshmi’s prasad, should be used in getting things which has value and thus you will learn that you have used your Lakshmi very well. And with that, your Mahalakshmi principle will become very strong, will become very strong, by which you will ascend very fast. Today is the day for us to celebrate the Lakshmi puja. But Lakshmi puja doesn’t mean that you worship money. Money as it is, is the most dangerous thing, and I think it is the hidden weapon of Lakshmi Devi. You see, if you try to misuse Her, She goes on punching with it. With one punch, if you don’t realise then She gives you another punch — like that. Then She might little bit twist you, to suggest. She’ll try everything to convince you that what you are doing is nonsense. Ultimately, She sees your destruction completely. So Lakshmi, though She is the One who is the giver of boons, giver of everything, you should not be misled by Her Mahamaya character. I am your Mother, so I better tell you to be very careful! Thank you very much. The wind has stopped! Shri Mataji translates (from the Marathi) the Pasaydan, the epilogue to the Gyaneshwari by Saint Gyaneshwara: Spirit of the whole universe, for you I have composed this dream of mine. After hearing this, I hope you feel satisfied. It’s more than satisfaction. And then you give me a blessing of vibrations. ‘Pasaydan’ is vibrations. Now he describes that, “All the cruel people should give up their cruelty and there should be love between each other.” See how he is describing Sahaja Yoga! He says that, “Those who are away from Truth, removed from Truth, their darkness should go.” That’s what he is demanding. “And the whole world should see the sun of Self-realisation.” Can you imagine? “And whatever then one wants, he’ll get it.” He says, “Everywhere is the flow of auspiciousness and great saints will be there.” That is you all, you see he is describing. “Such people will be very much in number and they will be respected. And it will become impossible to control themselves when you meet all the people whom you have created.” You see, all Sahaja Yoga, he’s describing Sahaja Yoga. “Tzala kalpataru…” Ah, this is for Sahaja Yogis… “Tzala kalpatarunche aarewar chaitana chintamanitzegao..” So he says, “Now you who are the Sahaja Yogis, who are the forest of trees which give the boon of whatever people like.” Kalpataru is a tree which gives the boon for whatever you want. So he said, you are the ones. “You are the ones, come along! You are like the forest of those trees which give the boon.” “chaitana chintamanitzegao.” Wah, wah! “You are the village or the community of having awakened mind within you.” “You are the oceans which speak,” that’s what he has called you, “full of ambrosia.” “You are the oceans of ambrosia who can speak.” Now look at that! What he’s saying about you. That’s what you are. “Chandrame je alamchana martanda te tapahina” “You are like the moon which has no spot in it, spotlessly clean. You are the moon who are spotlessly clean and you are the sun without any heat in it.” “te sarvaanchi sadaa sajjana” “These people who are always very benevolent people, and they become relations of each other.” Not your old relations, but you become relations of Sahaja Yogis, with each other. It’s a fact. You see, that’s what he said. “kimbahunaa sarva sukhi, purna houni tinhi loki.” He says, “Otherwise, all of you will be very happy from all sides and you will be complete people, perfect people, in the three worlds.” “bhajijo aadipurukhi, akhamḍita” “When you will worship the Primordial you will become eternal.” “aaṇi graṁthopajiviye, vishesi lokim iye, dṛṣṭaadṛṣṭa vijaye, hoaave jī” He says, “You will be like books of eternal knowledge and in the whole world, people will see. Your eyes will see and you will win people with your eyes full of love and such people should be put aarti.” “yetha mhaṇe shrī vishvesharāo, hā hoīla dāna pasāvo, yeṇeṁ vareṁ jñānadevo, sukhiyā jālā” “She will be called as Adi Shakti and She will give you the pasaydan,” The pasaydan means vibrations. And he’s asking that, “Oh, God. Give us pasaydan and this will happen. By that the whole world will become extremely happy.” You see I can’t read Roman language. I am very bad. I can know one language, and not translation of that. Nor do I know this Roman language which people use, English, to write about if they have to say something Marathi. But it’s not easy, because it misses the points I think. And I can’t read so you see, that’s my incapability to read it. Especially in India, in the church they used to use this Roman thing, and I could never sing, I could not understand what is this. But what He (Gyaneshwara) has said is that you are the ones who are this who are that. I mean he has called you as the kalpataru, means the ones who are the trees who can give any boon if you want to. And there are forests of it, because you are so many of them. And ‘chintanmanitze’ — you are the ones who can remove all the worries of the people. Imagine! What a right description He has given! But I think [that] still Sahaja Yogis don’t believe in themselves: that they have all these powers and what they can do. It was Gyaneshwara who described you. But I wonder if you can describe yourself like that because, I don’t know why, they are very humble, Sahaja Yogis are very humble and that’s why they don’t believe that they could be this. But just think of all those false gurus who have nothing, their Kundalini is absolutely dissolved inside, but how much they talk, how much they tell! And their disciples are also the same style, you won’t believe. I met one lady, a disciple of one guru, and she started telling me about her guru such a lot that I got up and walked out of the place and I requested them that, “Baba, give me another seat!” So, when you have everything you don’t talk. You won’t even tell you mother, you won’t even tell you father, you won’t even tell your neighbours. All round I mean you are so many. There were only twelve disciples of Christ and they spread the message of Christ. Of course, whatever they did didn’t turn out very well! But you can, because you have got Realisation, you have got all the powers and you know, you have the real knowledge. Not only ‘real’ but it is the knowledge of the Divine, a secret knowledge. Everything you have but you don’t talk. I would request all of you [that], to anybody who meets you, just start talking; in the plane, anywhere. Best is to wear my badge, so they will ask you questions, “Who is this?” And then you go on telling who am I. It’s the best way to spread Sahaja Yoga, that you all should talk about Sahaja Yoga to others, whenever you meet anyone. Can you promise that? All right.

Diwali Puja. Sintra, Lisbon (Portugal) - 2 November 1997. Today, we have gathered here to worship Shri Lakshmi. In Diwali, in India, they worship Lakshmi because a great rakshasa called Narakasura was killed; also that Lakshmi came out of the sea, at the same time, long time back. I mean, I should say, this is like Her different appearances on the same geography [unsure]. Lakshmi is the Goddess which gives us wealth, gives us prosperity. She is very blissful, no doubt. She gives you protection and also She is very humble because She stands on the lotus. She is very light, [which] means She does not put Her pressure on anyone. These are symbols of Shri Lakshmi. But also She is a part of Mahamaya in the modern times only. When people get Lakshmi, the money, they don’t understand that She is their Mother firstly, and She is to be respected. When this kind of a perverse idea of Shri Lakshmi comes in such countries, such people meet their last end and destruction of the worst type ever. So this Lakshmi has to be used with a big balance, like standing on a lotus and not get into the pond, where there are all kinds of creatures to eat you all. You have to stand on the lotus: that means that you are above all the lures of this Maya. Also in Sanskrit languages, we call Lakshmi as the Maya. If somebody gets lot of money, they will say, “You got a lot of maya!” Now, this Maya plays the tricks. If money, prosperity was the salvation, then there would have been no problems in this world. Because those people who have money always get ruined. If they are not ruined, their children, their grandchildren get ruined. This principle of Lakshmi within us is very dubious and the allurement is so much that people see somebody having a good car these days, they think, “Aaah! What a man he is!” In any case, he is not going to give you the car! If somebody is having lots of palaces or buildings people start admiring them! This is Kali Yuga. They start admiring: “See this man is so rich!" Even [with] clothes: people see you wearing clothes which are very well tailored; might be from some designers [so] they think no end of that man. For example, in England, there is another befooling place called ‘Saville Row’. So if you want to buy one suit, you have to pay sometimes £3000. Now, people are so stupid that now if they wear a suit from Saville Row, they put the brand outside: “Saville Row”! All such tomfoolery is going on all over the world. The clothes have no meaning, their lifestyle has no meaning. Ultimately they end up in Swiss bank! The Lakshmi Tattwa of Swiss bank is also now showing its teeth, and if you read what’s happening to them, I mean, they are shaking, they don’t know. They went to this limit that they took the teeth, golden teeth of the Jews! I mean, it’s going too far! All this tomfoolery has been going on. They have military services - why? Who is going to conquer that country? Even Napoleon didn’t do that. And they have made big caves to keep their weapons there. Who is going to attack them? Stupid people! Suffering from ego. But the attack has come and this attack is so serious that they might be completely shattered and destroyed. Now, who falls for this kind of thing, you should see, are the people who are crooks, who are dishonest, who are absolutely adharmis. They can be mafia dons or they can be some thugs, some black marketeers, some smugglers. So, going against the Lakshmi principle are so many these days. One fellow who was thrown out of Sahaja Yoga, because he was trying to be very dominating and all that, he said: “That’s better!” I said: “Why?” He’s doing now smuggling, making money out of smuggling and he has become very rich, according to him. But it comes to an end and a very tragic, bad end. Money is such a lure for human beings that it kills all sense of decency of higher values, everything. A brother who is very nice and a good fellow, if he gets money out of proportion by doing hanky-panky, he neglects his mother, father, brothers, sisters, everyone. So I would say, then it comes to that point that Lakshmiji becomes a bhoot then and all Her blessings become a challenge to your dignity. Now, certain countries, like America which is the area for Shri Krishna, because He’s Kubera, they have no money as such. I have seen [that] they are all poor, they are all indebted. So many Indians went to America and they can’t come to India now. “Why?” “We are indebted.” “Why are you indebted?” “Oh, we get everything free, now, you see, the bank gives us loan. We can have the best lifestyle!” So they will have three mercedes: “It’s nothing! Three mercedes is nothing! You should have Rolls Royce’s. We should have this!” For what? What do you get out of it? Now of course, little bit they are shaken up with the stock exchange and all that nonsense they had started, all this joke and all these very big camouflages. All now are coming out. So, this is no Lakshmi, because Lakshmi must give you dignity, prosperity and respect. I think Americans understood about it, so they became philanthropist, means they are giving money to people. But to whom did they give money? All the names these people took from South Africa were all given money by the philanthropists of America. What has happened to their wisdom? That 16-year old boy, he went there and then all ages went there and made a very big money. All this money making proposition… Can you give some seat to those musicians? So what is the matter if there is a blessing of Lakshmi? Why a man who gets the blessing of Lakshmi becomes so funny, so stupid and ultimately ends up his life that people are not there even to pick up his dead body? What is the difference between money and Lakshmi? She gives you money, all right, agreed, but when She is giving the money, what happens to that money which comes to you, is a very subtle thing [which] one should understand. In India if you give, say, a hundred rupees to your servant, immediately he’ll go to drink somewhere. First, idea will come [as to] what he should do: he’ll go for a drink of the hard one. I mean, your murkha is nowhere near that! Such hard one they make in India, you know. It is called as ‘hath bhatti’: means ‘made with hands’. So in hundred rupees, they are willing to go. I mean, that means any money you give to them, it spoils their life completely. Lakshmi has been given, all right, so what happens to this Lakshmi? She changes Her form and Her form is so bad that you are completely ruined with that! So, now we have to understand what is the way we can use the Lakshmi. Supposing I get money then I will go to the market and I’ll see something nice: “Aaah! This is very good for this Sahaja Yogi!” Or I will say, “This will be very handy for our ashram.” Immediately the mind starts working in a very socialistic way, I should say, not individualistic. For example, I went to Rajasthan and I saw such a lot of sand, just like a big desert, big dunes, everything, and people starving. So I said, “How to get money to these people?” So, I said, “Let me start a factory, factory with the unbreakable glass,” Which they make only in France. They make it very cheap and it’s regarded as a very cheap thing, but not in India. In India, if you go to some elite’s house, they’ll offer you tea in these unbreakable things. They think it’s very elite. You know, it depends on what you think about. And they are very proud of it. So, I said, if we make these things in India, these poor people, you know, because there’s so much sand and sand is needed by trucks. So I will utilise this to make this beautiful factory here, and then give them some support to live well. Now, when I went to one place called as Warna - you all had come also once. There’s a gentleman who was a disciple of Gandhiji and he’s organised this Warna company for distributing milk. It became so very rich, so very rich, it’s a co-operative, so he started giving money to all the co-operative people, those who were labour there. Now, this labour had never seen that money, so he came to me, touched my feet and said, “Mother, you tell me now, what should I do? I am so unhappy with the development of this Warna, because there are prostitutes who arrived from Bombay, there are all kinds of hard things which have come from Bombay and these people are smoking like hell, they are taking drugs!” “Ay?” “Yes! Wherever there is money, the drug goes there. And the children are becoming absolutely useless, they don’t want to study, they even slap their parents!” So he said, “This was not Gandhiji’s ideal, now what has happened?" He says, “This is a curse of money.” And he was crying. Now, how can Lakshmi become a curse? It does! It is in the Nabhi. What a central position it has. And when this Nabhi starts working, it is a very remarkable thing that you feel [like] gobbling the food all the time with this Nabhi. You go on eating, go on eating like mad and then some bhoot comes in to eat also with you inside the Nabhi. Then you can eat so much that no human beings can eat like that, except for the people who are rich. Then you start a big science or what you can call etiquettes. I don’t want to hurt anybody: I mean, if you are eating well I don’t mind, eat well. But the first part is, because today is Diwali, I’m trying to tell you all these interesting stories. I went many times for dinner with French diplomats: my goodness! Now, me and my husband don’t drink. So for forty-five minutes they were only discussing what they will have today! Then they remembered [that] yesterday they had that, the day before they had that, so there should be variety. So, then they came down to something, not all of them drinking the same [but] different, different. So, they came to some point: “All right, we’ll have this.” But some people asked for something which was not available. So they said, “You have to have it!” and they shouted at them. My goodness! They took forty-five minutes to decide what they are going to eat! It’s regarded as French etiquettes, I think. And we two [were] chief guests, myself and my husband: looking at this man and looking at that woman, didn’t know what to do with these etiquettes! We were thinking, “Now better go!” Then came to food. They are so particular: “I like this and I like that!” They are worse than Indians, I tell you! And they took at least, at least, eighty minutes to decide what they will eat. Ultimately, they found something nice, each different: and the restaurant people were trying to pamper their ego: “Oh, what a thing you have chosen! This is the best!” (laughter) So they started serving. The cheese was smelling so awful, I tell you! We couldn’t bare it, both of us, so my husband told them, “Today is our fasting day for both of us!” (laughter) He said, “Why is it a fasting day?” He says, “In India, we have, you know, fasting like this, sometimes we have to fast; today is ours.” But I told him, “Here, one day you are saying today is our fasting, but we have to go to so many dinners, what will you do?” He said, “Everywhere it’s better to say that we are fasting!” Such a horrible cheese they brought and they started boasting that they have two hundred types of cheese! I said, “Two hundred types of the smelly ones, from where did you get?” They said, “This is French perfection!” I said, “What is this French perfection?” But then, you know, tears came into my eyes. CP said, “Why are you crying?” “I’m not crying, but I think what will happen to these people with their cheese? Where will they go? Even if they go to hell, people will throw them away with the smell of the cheese!” (laughter) Then I read how this cheese came in. So they said there was a big snowfall and they had put some big, big containers of milk in a cave, and people forgot about it. Snowfall was there for twenty days, whatever it was, and they just forgot about it. So, after one year, they got the smell coming out of it; so they went and saw the cheese being formed, can you imagine? This is the beginning of the end. Actually, one should never eat anything that is kept overnight, normally. But now they have got fridges, so you can keep it for two days, three days at the most. Like on the ship they keep it. But this I couldn’t understand that, this cheese, which they told me is very old. I said, “Really?” And they sell it by that, how old it is. And their wines, if they are, say, two hundred years old it is two hundred times more expensive. So, it’s such a bhootish thing to eat all that. So, when the Lakshmi goes into the hands of bhoots on a very less level, I should say, then it goes into the heads of people who want to exploit money, exploit the poor people, exploit countries which are downtrodden. They go on like this, collecting money, you know, looting, looting, looting. When English came to India, we did know, [that] they used to take brides. On Diwali day if you went there without any present they would say, “Oh, baksheesh? You must give some presents.” And what they liked was our country liqueur. I never knew this but later on I came to know, because my husband became a collector of Meerut. And there where bottles of country liqueurs kept in that house! But that house was itself more than hundred years old. Long time back it was kept but still, some of them were there. We could have sent them to England to sell, it would have been a good idea! So, the older it is [they think] it’s better. This Lakshmi I think becomes old and dies and there is alakshmi. ‘Alakshmi’ means when you have money and you don’t have the qualities of a person who should have money. In that quality of alakshmi, you become very miserly, you don’t want even to help your brothers and sisters, you don’t want to give any money to anyone. And even if you give it, you give it to false gurus and wrong things. This is up to, we can say, is alakshmi. The behaviour becomes very arrogant, so arrogant that you behave like horses! People look like horses: they walk like horses. But I don’t know if horses have ego. If you see these people, you just don’t understand what has gone wrong with them. There is one gentleman who started an aeroplane business, aeroplane business in India. I won’t take his name, but say some ‘Majidiya’ or something. And my granddaughter met him with my grandson-in-law and they were walking like this, talking like this! They couldn’t understand these two persons; so, they came and talked to them, “Who are you?” and all that. And then they said, “We are this Majidiya!” So, my granddaughter said, “Who is Majidiya?” My goodness! They fell from heavens! “You don’t know who are Majidiyas? Do you read newspapers or not?” Then her husband came in, he said, “I do.” “Now what do you want to say? We are Majidiyas!” He said, “Who are Majidiyas?” “You don’t know? What sort of business you do? What is this?” Such stupid things they did that these children felt that there’s no use having any business; if business means this kind of behaviour: very indecent, very arrogant. They don’t know how to relate to people! They don’t know. And after some time, I heard that their business was completely finished, was a flop as they call it: flop. So now we have to realise that this Lakshmi, how it takes us to wrong things. Firstly, She makes you very egoistical, somehow. The man who has money starts behaving like that. One cannot understand how a person who was normal suddenly becomes like this, starts talking like this! He might earn money even in the horse races! Around the Lakshmi is the valency of dharma. There is, around the Lakshmi, the dharma. And this dharma if you cross - that’s the best place where they can cross the dharma - then, you can do whatever you like, which is adharmi which is irreligious, which is hideous. You have to just cross that limit of that dharma, you have to just deviate from dharma. Now, as I said many a times, that ten valencies human beings have got; but apart from that, there are many dharmas which are surrounding it like angels. Like, first dharma is your love for humanity: is the first dharma. But if you say from that end when you start, it starts with Stri-dharma, is the dharma of a woman: how she should live, how she should get married, how she should look after her children, what should be her behaviour. All [this] is Stri-dharma. And then is Patni-dharma, is the wife, wife’s dharma, what should be her dharma. In her dharma she looks nice. If she gives up her dharma then she is a prostitute. So, then is Pati-dharma: how should be a husband, how he should behave towards his family, how should he pay attention towards his wife, about the whole entire family, the whole parivar (परिवार), as they call it: all the relations. That is his dharma. But beyond that is the dharma of Satya-dharma: how much he sticks to truth. Then the dharma for creativity: in creativity as you know very well these days, with money people are standing on their heads or I don’t know what they are doing, because the amount of nonsense they are producing all over the world in the name of modernism is no way is Kala-dharma, no way. Then we have also politics, Rajkaran-dharma. Also this dharma is there. Now taking bribes, I mean the kind of things that are going on: corruption, all kinds of things that are going on, competition, fighting and all that. They are falling from their dharma of Rajkaran. Education, same thing; we call it Shiksha-dharma. All such things are dharmas. There’s a kind of a principle which we have to keep otherwise you can topple down from the lotus, and that’s what happens. Now we have also Rashtra-dharma. The Rashtra-dharma is [to] your country; there’s a dharma of your Rashtra. When you have to fight for your country, you should. But you should not be aggressive on other countries, should not right to dominate other countries, nor you should bring a bad name to your country. It’s very important! Sahaja Yogis have all these intact, absolutely, because you are standing on the lotuses already. You don’t have this problem; normally not. Once in a while there are people who behave like that, but mostly Sahaja yogis don’t fall into these traps; that’s why their Lakshmi Tattwa will definitely improve. They’ll have little problems here and there. But without problems, if you get Lakshmi, you will not value for Her. So, with little problems, you get the Lakshmi. But Lakshmi doesn’t give you all this imbalance. Such a man has to be extremely balanced because, beyond that, is the step of Mahalakshmi, where your seeking starts, where you become a seeker. You go beyond Lakshmi principle, and this Mahalakshmi principle starts coming into it. I would say the Western countries this consumerism has started, and it’s such a funny one: in America, one lady was married to an Indian and he used to tell me how this consumerism works. I said, “How?” He said, “I gave my wife money to buy two shirts for me because I had no shirts. So, she went and bought five skirts.” So, I said, “You have so many skirts, why did you buy the skirts?” “Because in this money I could buy five skirts instead of two shirts, so I bought five skirts." So he said, “I can’t wear skirts!” “So, how I should correct her?” he said. I said, “You do one thing: tell her you want to buy some skirts for her and go and buy five shirts. Then she will realise that if the money was given to her for one purpose, it should be used for that.” This is a very subtle principle which I follow, because I don’t understand money. So, what I do, whatever money I get, I put packets: this is for this, this is for this, this is for this, into packets. But I don’t understand, and I don’t write accounts. I am very bad about all that. Somebody else does that. Now, if I spend some money from one pocket for some emergency, then I again fill it back. It’s written there: so much is there, so much is there. So, the money is available at the right time for whatever I want to do and the money is in the packet. It is not in the open thing that I can just, “I want to buy a Mercedes. I want to buy a Rolls Royce!” No nothing doing! It is for some purpose, and there is no need. So, when you go to the shop and you see something, you won’t buy it, because that money is not kept for that particular thing. For Sahaja Yogis it’s very easy to handle their money with respect. So, you go to any shop, you won’t buy anything. But my nature also is spontaneous. So, I went to Frankfurt, changing [plane]. They said, “Mother, there is a very nice watch shop.” I just thought, “I am going to get three son-in-laws and what am I going to give them?” So, I went to that shop and I found such beautiful, beautiful things. But I had not kept any money for the watch; but I said, “I must buy!” One of the watches turned out to be a very unique one, I must tell you, which is no more available. Because of my eyes, I saw [that] this is something unique. And my son-in-law is so overwhelmed. He is quite rich, he has no problems. But he said, “This watch you cannot get it!” Then an article came about that particular watch. So he has kept it with him. So to have something, it should have a value behind it: that is the dharma part. The value behind it: what is the value? When you want to buy something just don’t buy because you are mad: I mean instead of shirts you buy skirts; not that way. But anything that has an artistic value or some special value, then you should buy that. Now this sari I am wearing, it has a special value. Why? Not [just] that it is made with hands, is a very beautiful design it has, no. This was made in a place called Paithan which was the capital of a kingdom which belonged to my forefathers [the] Shalivanas; and these saris were made there, Paithani. And they used to sell it to people. Now they have becoming expensive [but] in those days they were cheaper. Now, it has that value. They were very honest, very religious. They were called Shalivanas because they used to give shawls to the Goddess. They spread their kingdom very much; and also there is a calendar in their name. But the kind of life they led: they were just very generous people. And they have made beautiful temples, beautiful places for people to rest near the river; I mean, so many beautiful things they have done. Apart from that, Rama and Sita, when they went to Dandakaranya, they went to this place, and you have the place where Sita took Her bath, Her bathing place. There’s a little river flowing there, and how it was covered from all the side and how the light was coming - so beautiful. But whatever Rama had done they redecorated it with the Rajput style art. Then also there was a very beautiful temple, I saw that they had made. Also, I don’t know how, there was some water flowing and there was Shri Mahadeva’s, a big thing, pinda (linga), very big. And also there was a Parvati’s statue. So old as that! I don’t know if it was put by Rama or by my own, you can call them the, great, great, great grandparents. But the beauty about that place is that it shows that Sita used to worship Mahadeva. The water was flowing, somehow by nature inside, up there in a stream, and She used to take the water and put it on that pinda. How deep these people were, those who built that temple. Such a beautiful temple they have made. So many temples are built like this in India by people who had money; and they believed that if you spend your money in this kind of work, you are blessed. I bought a land, near the River Nira — that’s my own name, ‘Nira’ — and this land I just bought it just like that without thinking. And what they told [me was] that their guru, Shalivanas guru, was Shandilya, and this place belonged to him, long time back, which was an ashram of Shandilya. Exactly the same [land]. And that land I bought, very surprisingly. Then in the newspaper, it came out, everything about that land. And this land was the place where a great devotee of Shri Vishnu, Prahlada (प्रह्लाद), was playing. So, you must have heard about Prahlad. His mother had a husband: Hiranyakashipu (हिरण्यकशिपु) was her husband, a horrible rakshasa, so she ran away from there and who help her was Indra. He brought this lady to the place of Guru Shandilya, and Shandilya told Indra, that, “You don’t put any effort for her. I will look after her. And the child that is going to be born to this lady is going to get the avatar of Narasimha.” You know Narasimha is the man and the lion. He said, “How can that be?” He said, “It is so.” So Indra left her there. The child was born [and] till five years, that child used to play in that land which I have bought. I mean, I didn’t know about it ,but I just saw it; I was surprised. But when the child grew up, up to five years he had to go back to his father. I don’t know how many of you read about Prahlada? Raise your hands, I would like to know. Upaar karo (Hindi: lift them), let me see. His father tried to kill him and torture him but he had certain boons, so Shri Vishnu appeared as Narasimha, means the lion and the human form. And then He killed this Hiranyakashipu, the father. Now, imagine how it was that thousands of years back this must have happened, and I should purchase that land. And there is a very beautiful temple built about three hundred years back by Maharashtrians. So, the story is that Prahlada came into the dream of the people who wanted to built the temple and told them that, “I have already made a statue of Narasimha along the River Nira.” Imagine the name of the river is also mine! “And if you can walk along the banks of Nira River very close to the temple, I have made the statue in sand.” It’s a miracle! So, they went there and they saw that statue. They brought it back and installed it in that temple. And it’s still there — made of sand. Also they say there’s a kind of a river or a water flow, a very small one, just like the finger, that flows down from the top — God knows how! So, now see the value: the value of money which was collected to built this temple had such an old value. So the value is not money. This, one should understand. What is the value of the thing? If you want to give something to others, then the feelings you have in your heart is the value, and that value is the real Lakshmi. When you are, say, building a house, the plans you make, the things you do: what is the idea behind and what you are trying to express through that house is the value of that house. Once you understand that, you have to buy, with this Lakshmi, or you have to use this Lakshmi for certain value and not for showing off or for money. This superficialness that we have about money itself is like an ordinary glass. But if you put, behind the glass, the mercury, you can see the value. So, when you start buying something, what is the purpose? Why are you buying? This will determine the value. Like, last time I came to Portugal and I said, “We’ll go and buy some terracotta.” But they are very expensive. I said, “This is the price.” But I wanted to buy terracotta from Portugal because it’s very rich in that. So, we went to one factory, and the factory was quite far out. None of them could find out, but I told them, “It’s here only! Just go and see.” And then we bought the terracotta. But on our way, I told [them], “Stop. Stop here. Stop!” So, they stopped. There was a shop. I had to buy some things for Sahaja Yogis in India and also for some people in Cabella. And that shop had such beautiful cottons. There were Sahaja Yogis from here who saw that. Such beautiful clothes, and I bought a lot of it. I said, “Thank God! The problem [of] presents are finished now for India.” So joy giving it was. Everybody was surprised: “Why suddenly in a place where never Mother has been there, suddenly She finds?” It has a value because I wanted to buy something for Indians, to be given as presents. So, if your Lakshmi is say, this much, once you add to it a value it becomes so big. The sign of a person who is a lakshmipati is this: he should have a house like a lotus in the hands of the Goddess, he should protect people who are depending on him and, from the left hand, he should give. This is the image of the Lakshmi. This is what the Lakshmi is within you. If you have these four things in balance, without conditioning, without ego, then you are a Sahaja Yogi, otherwise, you are not. On a Diwali day, we have to promise ourselves that, whatever we are going to get now, as Lakshmi principle, or as a Lakshmi’s prasad, should be used in getting things which has value and thus you will learn that you have used your Lakshmi very well. And with that, your Mahalakshmi principle will become very strong, will become very strong, by which you will ascend very fast. Today is the day for us to celebrate the Lakshmi puja. But Lakshmi puja doesn’t mean that you worship money. Money as it is, is the most dangerous thing, and I think it is the hidden weapon of Lakshmi Devi. You see, if you try to misuse Her, She goes on punching with it. With one punch, if you don’t realise then She gives you another punch — like that. Then She might little bit twist you, to suggest. She’ll try everything to convince you that what you are doing is nonsense. Ultimately, She sees your destruction completely. So Lakshmi, though She is the One who is the giver of boons, giver of everything, you should not be misled by Her Mahamaya character. I am your Mother, so I better tell you to be very careful! Thank you very much. The wind has stopped! Shri Mataji translates (from the Marathi) the Pasaydan, the epilogue to the Gyaneshwari by Saint Gyaneshwara: Spirit of the whole universe, for you I have composed this dream of mine. After hearing this, I hope you feel satisfied. It’s more than satisfaction. And then you give me a blessing of vibrations. ‘Pasaydan’ is vibrations. Now he describes that, “All the cruel people should give up their cruelty and there should be love between each other.” See how he is describing Sahaja Yoga! He says that, “Those who are away from Truth, removed from Truth, their darkness should go.” That’s what he is demanding. “And the whole world should see the sun of Self-realisation.” Can you imagine? “And whatever then one wants, he’ll get it.” He says, “Everywhere is the flow of auspiciousness and great saints will be there.” That is you all, you see he is describing. “Such people will be very much in number and they will be respected. And it will become impossible to control themselves when you meet all the people whom you have created.” You see, all Sahaja Yoga, he’s describing Sahaja Yoga. “Tzala kalpataru…” Ah, this is for Sahaja Yogis… “Tzala kalpatarunche aarewar chaitana chintamanitzegao..” So he says, “Now you who are the Sahaja Yogis, who are the forest of trees which give the boon of whatever people like.” Kalpataru is a tree which gives the boon for whatever you want. So he said, you are the ones. “You are the ones, come along! You are like the forest of those trees which give the boon.” “chaitana chintamanitzegao.” Wah, wah! “You are the village or the community of having awakened mind within you.” “You are the oceans which speak,” that’s what he has called you, “full of ambrosia.” “You are the oceans of ambrosia who can speak.” Now look at that! What he’s saying about you. That’s what you are. “Chandrame je alamchana martanda te tapahina” “You are like the moon which has no spot in it, spotlessly clean. You are the moon who are spotlessly clean and you are the sun without any heat in it.” “te sarvaanchi sadaa sajjana” “These people who are always very benevolent people, and they become relations of each other.” Not your old relations, but you become relations of Sahaja Yogis, with each other. It’s a fact. You see, that’s what he said. “kimbahunaa sarva sukhi, purna houni tinhi loki.” He says, “Otherwise, all of you will be very happy from all sides and you will be complete people, perfect people, in the three worlds.” “bhajijo aadipurukhi, akhamḍita” “When you will worship the Primordial you will become eternal.” “aaṇi graṁthopajiviye, vishesi lokim iye, dṛṣṭaadṛṣṭa vijaye, hoaave jī” He says, “You will be like books of eternal knowledge and in the whole world, people will see. Your eyes will see and you will win people with your eyes full of love and such people should be put aarti.” “yetha mhaṇe shrī vishvesharāo, hā hoīla dāna pasāvo, yeṇeṁ vareṁ jñānadevo, sukhiyā jālā” “She will be called as Adi Shakti and She will give you the pasaydan,” The pasaydan means vibrations. And he’s asking that, “Oh, God. Give us pasaydan and this will happen. By that the whole world will become extremely happy.” You see I can’t read Roman language. I am very bad. I can know one language, and not translation of that. Nor do I know this Roman language which people use, English, to write about if they have to say something Marathi. But it’s not easy, because it misses the points I think. And I can’t read so you see, that’s my incapability to read it. Especially in India, in the church they used to use this Roman thing, and I could never sing, I could not understand what is this. But what He (Gyaneshwara) has said is that you are the ones who are this who are that. I mean he has called you as the kalpataru, means the ones who are the trees who can give any boon if you want to. And there are forests of it, because you are so many of them. And ‘chintanmanitze’ — you are the ones who can remove all the worries of the people. Imagine! What a right description He has given! But I think [that] still Sahaja Yogis don’t believe in themselves: that they have all these powers and what they can do. It was Gyaneshwara who described you. But I wonder if you can describe yourself like that because, I don’t know why, they are very humble, Sahaja Yogis are very humble and that’s why they don’t believe that they could be this. But just think of all those false gurus who have nothing, their Kundalini is absolutely dissolved inside, but how much they talk, how much they tell! And their disciples are also the same style, you won’t believe. I met one lady, a disciple of one guru, and she started telling me about her guru such a lot that I got up and walked out of the place and I requested them that, “Baba, give me another seat!” So, when you have everything you don’t talk. You won’t even tell you mother, you won’t even tell you father, you won’t even tell your neighbours. All round I mean you are so many. There were only twelve disciples of Christ and they spread the message of Christ. Of course, whatever they did didn’t turn out very well! But you can, because you have got Realisation, you have got all the powers and you know, you have the real knowledge. Not only ‘real’ but it is the knowledge of the Divine, a secret knowledge. Everything you have but you don’t talk. I would request all of you [that], to anybody who meets you, just start talking; in the plane, anywhere. Best is to wear my badge, so they will ask you questions, “Who is this?” And then you go on telling who am I. It’s the best way to spread Sahaja Yoga, that you all should talk about Sahaja Yoga to others, whenever you meet anyone. Can you promise that? All right.

12/4/1997

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Public Program [Translation from Hindi to English] My salutations to all the seekers of truth! Firstly, we should know that truth has many interpretations, and many books have been written on this. On religion (“Dharamapurasar”) how many books, how many preaching’s, how many bhajans, how much devotion are there in front of you? Today is the special day of Guru Tegh Bahadur ("one of the ten gurus in Sikh religion"). He also said that you should be devoted to God. By being devoted to God, you can attain your inner balance, inner peace, and all the negativities that are clinging onto us will all be destroyed. But now today's world is not like that. Nowadays, people in the world are special. On one side there are people who are seekers. They are searching and want to find the truth. And on the other side, they are people who are not afraid of anything. They are not afraid of God Almighty. If you tell them, "If you do wrong things you will go to hell," they do not believe in such things. It is said that for seven generations people take up this sin; we do not know how much. They go through all types of sorrow and pain. Whatever you tell them, you try to scare them, whatever you tell them, that fear won't affect them. They have become stone-hearted people. 03.00 Now killing is a big sin. Killing people in this manner, killing small children, is a very big sin. But when the feeling of sin itself is completely finished and no one believes in sin or saintly virtues and has a feeling that, “I am everything and whatever I do is right, and for money I can kill whoever I want to kill”. This status of today’s Kali Yug was never like this before. I agree that not all people are like that. Many people are very religious, they are good, and they believe that they should not commit sin. Not only that, they do not even do sin. But people who are terrorist-like ("aatataayi"), who are extremist, because of their pain, because of their difficulties, people are suffering today. People ask, "Where is God? Where is the power of God?" In life, we always walked on the right path, but still, we have to face people like Dalit, I mean, who have fallen so low. Such people are troubling us. Nowadays, without any reason, people have started beating. Now in the name of religion, they think killing somebody is a good deed. I don't understand. In the name of God, people do not even feel bad about destroying others. In the name of God, they collect money. In the name of God, they say all kinds of lies and spread hypocrisy. 05.08 Nowadays, the problem is too much, and nobody is able to realise or feel or even think how you can kill such small children, kill ladies. I have never seen so much cruelty. If there is any reason or any war, at least it can be understood. But it is nothing like that; only for money. Because somebody has given money, so you go and kill anyone. In today’s world, because of greediness for money, people don’t understand how they are falling into the pit of sin. 05.53 I agree that there is poverty in the world. In our country, there is a lot of poverty. We can do things to remove poverty; we can think about it, understand it. This has only one meaning, that people have become completely blind; they do not understand why they are doing this, and just like mad everywhere they are destroying themselves. The only treatment for this in this Kali Yuga is Sahaja Yoga. For this, first, you need to know yourself, what you are. Unless you identify yourself, you won't understand dharma or God. Because in the name of religion ("dharma") they are many sins happening in the world, and in the name of goodness they are looting many people. Some people do not understand what to do to improve the state of human beings. People are now afraid of each other; they are fearful and worried, and they are not afraid of God. By talking about all these things, only heat is increased and nothing else. But people don't have the sensation ("samvedana"). They do not have the power inside them by which they can know what they are doing, into which pit they are falling, what they are doing, where they are getting misled. No matter how much you make them understand or teach them, they do not understand. It is only mental, which is called "mental" assessment, not beyond that. So if a person understands by his intelligence, they may go one way — go on the right path — or another side, he may go on the wrong path. Whatever is happening in the world, people are in doubt. They think there is nothing like God. There is no any power in his consciousness ("Chaitanya"). 08.15 Now we need to understand that unless there is a change in human beings unless people change unless they understand what is reality, and after understanding still he does not get the affinity ("aatmeeyata"), till that the time, they will be worse than animals. At least animals won't kill their children. If you leave some animals together and if they belong to the same species, they won't kill each other. And we are destroying our own species that is, the species of human beings, by taking big, big names, by talking about big, big goals (“dheya”). It cannot benefit anyone. It won’t help you at all. But by Me talking about it, nothing is going to change. For this, you have to change from within. You have to know this from inside that you have to understand what you are. For this, God has made all the arrangements within you. Inside you, there is a power of Kundalini, and you have been told everything about it, and all these chakras are there, through which it is necessary that the Kundalini energy passes. 09.47 All the big gurus have explained about Kundalini. In all the religions, Kundalini has been explained. Even Mohammed Sahib has said when he got his realization, then he felt like he was sitting on a white horse and had passed the seven destinations (“manzile") like we have the seven chakras. But nobody reads it in depth. They don't understand it. Any guru, whoever was a real guru, if you listen to them, they have told about the same things. Other than changing within you, there is no other way. Because of the change inside you, you will get all the powers, you will become strong, you will understand your self-respect, and you will be dignified ("gauranveeth”) in your self-respect. You will understand that this dignity is an asset for you; a very big asset has come within us that we understand our spirit and we respect it. 11.03 Now, this cannot happen that I say that, "You are the spirit," and then you will ask, "Where is it? How can you say this is a spirit?" You have to prove it. And this proof ("siddhatha”) you will achieve in Sahaja Yoga. Another thing you have to understand is that you have this power within you. Everyone has that power inside. All the people who are sitting here, according to Me, around ninety-nine per cent have felt it and have experienced it. This is a matter of pleasure for Me also. Here, in Uttar Pradesh and in Delhi, many people have accepted it and even adapted to it, and after adapting it, they have settled it within. 11.55 Now it is your responsibility that, whatever powers you have within you, you have to know them. What are all the powers you have? The first power you have is that you yourself can give Self-realisation to others. The second power which will come inside you is that all the worldly wishes, desires and greediness will disappear because the darkness within you is destroyed by the light. Then you will always follow the enlightened path. In that light only, we find all the solutions, happiness. We get a lot of peace, and we were waiting for this very experience. What we are experiencing today is not just for talking about, but for us to experience it, and when this happens, people will attain a special form; what I say is, they will be called great humans. The meaning of a great human is that person who can feel for everyone inside themselves. We call this collective consciousness. This will be awakened within us, and with this collective consciousness, why would we kill anyone? Who is the other person whom we are killing? We are killing our people. Whom do we have to cheat? We are cheating our own people. We have to understand that the whole world is inside us. It won't happen by just understanding it. You have to feel it and experience it within yourself. When you experience this, you will be amazed to know that you are an Ocean of Peace. Peace is seated in a beautiful form within you, and you want to spread that peace far and wide. You will think, "Why should only I experience it? I want to give this experience to many people." In this way, an internal collectiveness will be established within you. There is no need to talk about religion ("dharma"), no need to spread fear, no need to blackmail anyone. When you get your light within, then you will start honouring yourself, and in that honour, all these useless things that you are running behind in this world will be stopped. 14.34 Like when we were coming now, on the way there were many vehicles, so many vehicles and vehicles passing by, going this way and the other way. If for one moment you stop and look, then you will see how they are going like mad people in opposite directions. What are they doing? What do they get? This will be your condition. Then you will stand by yourself and stop them. “Dear brother, the way is this side, not the other side. The power which is within you, this awakening power is within you, the power to purify ourselves, is within you.” On the way when I was coming, I was reading “Clean Delhi” (“Swachha Delhi”). How can it be clean? “Swa” means your own spirit. With this only it can happen. What is the use of this outside cleanliness? When you are cleansed inside, then you will know what you are. Then you will know how many good qualities are there in you, how much love is flowing within you, how much joy can be created within you. And many of you have experienced it. I am not saying anything new, but now we have to increase this thing and give it to others. 15.54 I came to know that people have come here from many places, from outside India, from foreign countries and even from all the nearby places. People from Uttar Pradesh, people from Delhi have come here. Now you have to think you all are one family. This feeling of oneness should not be only a mental thing (“jama kharch”). It should be from within. You should feel it inside you in reality, that we all are really one. We are different waves of the same sea. We are stirred up as one (“aadolit"). The same movement is going on, and when you achieve this thing correctly when you get onto this properly, we don't know how one person can change many people's lives. In this way, only Sahaja Yoga can be spread. But in this process, we can't get defensive ("pratarna”). We cannot cheat this. Many people cheat us. They take money from us. Let them go. People who are like that, who are doing wrong things, let them do it. Now you should know what you are, what your powers are and how you are using them. One guru has come, only one. He changed the world. He has done so much, he has written so much, he has spoken so much. And we are in thousands, thousands of thousands spread everywhere, and we all are one. At first, the ideology was one master, one saint, one Sufi, and everyone used to trouble them, trick them. Now it is not like that. We all are one. Whichever caste we are off, whether we were born as Hindu or born as Muslim or born as Christian, it does not matter. Whether you were born in this country or any other country, it does not matter. You will feel this oneness wherever you go. 18.01 Now, you need to experience it. This means something should happen to you. You have to become something. In Sahaja Yoga, it is not like that you pay 10 paise and you become a member. It does not happen like that. You have to become, and that depth is very easy for you to achieve. There is no question of money in this — God does not know what money is — but you will also understand that the becoming is ('not'"?) difficult. It happens on its own, on its own everything. All the goodwill descend upon us by itself and will enlighten us. So what is this thing? How it is happening? Because when your Kundalini is awakened, you are connected to the power which is spread all over the world. You will achieve oneness with that power. From that oneness, you yourself, like this electricity – all around this electricity is there. It is connected to the mains from where the electricity is coming. In the same way, you are also always connected to power. After it is connected, you will see all your work will be sorted out. Everything will be corrected. If you make any mistake, that will also be corrected. Now what I am saying is not a lie. You can prove it (“pratyay"), you experience it, and after you have experienced it, you will feel, "Why am I worried? Everything is fine. Why am I worried? What am I worried about?" For all things, there is a limit, and when it crosses the limit, after seeing it you will be amazed that everything has become right. Everything is set right. This is your experience, and this experience you have spread all around the world because today our country is on such a brink ("kagaar”), you don’t know when it will fall apart. Hence you all are the axis (“dhuree samayee"). You have stopped it. You are only the element to support it. Not like, "Now I am a Sahaja Yogi" and then it is done. This country's expectation ("pratya”) is spoilt. Its circumstances are spoilt. You all have to stand together to stop it. And you all have the blessing inside you by which you can achieve all types of powers within you. 20.43 Today here we have seen many big gurus. Many big incarnations have come, but all these incarnations now should be visible in you. People must be able to see, and they have to think something great has come, something special has come. They are not so-so (“aise waise”) people who are stupid. This is not just stupid talk. I don’t know from where we have got this cruelty inside, and how so many low type words have been established (“samanvay”) within us. If it is only for money, then also it can be understood. But other than that, somehow this is a kind of a demonic tendency (“pravritti”), and this demonic tendency has increased a lot in the present world. Earlier, there was only one Ravana, but now I can see out of every ten people, there is one Ravana that stands out. But if the remaining ten people are Sahaja Yogis, they can completely destroy this one Ravan. Destroying Ravana means by awakening them, not by removing his ten heads. You have to give them their Self-realisation, and after giving them their Self-realisation, you have to make them experience this happiness. 22.09 The path of Sahaja is of love, only love, and love is only the ultimate truth. There is no difference between truth and love, but if you love someone you will know everything about him. We have to use this power of love. People do not understand that this enlightenment (“chaitanya srishti"), all of this is raining love inside us. From this, the love flows, and this love will spread over the world, that you will be amazed at what this world was and what it was not. In your lifetime only, in your life only, it will happen, and seeing this you will be surprised that you have changed this world, and from where to where you have taken it. (Sahaja yogis are clapping in the background). 23.09 You need not work hard. It is all a pleasure for you all. When you have come from far-off places, you have seen that when you sat in the lorry coming here, you were enjoying it. When you had to stay in another place where there were no proper arrangements to stay, there also you were enjoying. When I came in the aeroplane I was worried. What if the aeroplane does not arrive on time? Then I didn’t know how many people, poor things, could have come. But when I reached here, I saw that everyone was safe, laughing. I asked them, “What were you all doing when the plane was four to five hours late?” They replied, “Oh Mother, we had so much fun. Like this we did not have anywhere else.” These things have to be understood, that normally people will be worried while waiting, but here while waiting people enjoyed and saw all these beautiful matchless things like this. All of this life is in front of you. Just you have to get into this. You have to make an effort to get into this. Carefully you have to get into this, and you have to achieve it. This work cannot be known by the brain, nor can these things be done by hard work that you stand upside down on your head. It is nothing like that; you just get mixed and get melted into this. The greatness of this love is that you won’t face any difficulties. All your difficulties will be destroyed, and a new awakening will happen within you. With that, you will feel the whole world is something amazing. 25.02 By the way, if you see, God has made a beautiful world. Nothing is God's fault, and He has also made Kundalini and placed it within you. He also wants you to achieve your awakening and get into this, but you people are involved in small-small things. It is all useless talk like someone says that "Sir, I am a Christian. I don't agree to it. I am so and so. I don't agree to it." What is the benefit you will get by disagreeing? In all the religions it has been written that you have to get your Self-realization. Without Self-realization, you cannot know about God. This is the absolute truth, and until you achieve it you will be restless; you will be worried; you will have problems. But as soon as the Ocean of Love starts overflowing and pulls you within yourself, you will think you don’t know how this has happened. Many Sahaja yogis have asked Me whether our past life karma was so good that we could achieve this thing. I said, “Don’t talk about past lives. Talk about this life only. In this life, you have got your transformation, and accept this transformation with utmost humility (“sar ankhon pe”), and because of this, all the work that needs to be done, do it with love.” 26.25 Some people can be bad. They get into Sahaja Yoga, no problem. You don't have anything to give and take with them. Your give and take should only be with God Almighty, the supreme consciousness. It has so much fragrance – there is no other path like this. Because helpless people who came before, incarnations, gurus, first were not able to give your awakening, and another thing is that you were not capable of understanding them. This is something that reaches to the wisdom of the general public. One simple work is to awaken the Kundalini. For this, there is no need to see any caste, creed or anything. All this is meaningless talk, is meaningless rebellion ("vidroha”). All the relationships amongst each other, the love, you must understand in different ways, in which there is no greed, no infatuation, no jealousy (“matsar"), only love, and love is there. Such is a relationship that gets developed with others in Sahaja Yoga, and if anything is lacking, then you can clear it by meditation. You have the right to lead a pretty ("sundartam”) great life like this, and you have to achieve it. 27.51 India is the land of yoga (“yogabhoomi"). Here, whatever happens, useless things are always happening, but still, this is the land of yoga, and it means that in this land of yoga, the glory of the consciousness ("Chaitanya ki mahima”) is the maximum. The consciousness is spread in all four directions. Now you talk about pollution, but I can see the consciousness (“chaitanya") in all four directions. Where you all are sitting, there is a lot of consciousness around. As and when the Sahaja yogis increase, all these things, like pollution and other such things, will automatically be destroyed. These words I am saying, please keep in mind. Now give attention to your own life. What are we doing? How are we living our lives? Night and day we are worried about money, night and day we are worried about useless things, or are we sitting and putting our attention towards ourselves and seeing our own dignity, seeing our greatness, and along with that, we are seeing the flow of our love being spread all around the world. All these things are the ultimate duty of a Sahaja yogi. For this, you do not need to give any money. There is no need to do anything. All this work will be done in the right way, but one thing we have to do is to know about ourselves completely, how great we are, what specialities we have. 29.17 Today, you people have come here on this day. Many people have taken the trouble to come here. I heard that some have come from outside. There are no proper facilities here so that I can do some arrangements for My children. But I see that they are filled within themselves (“samaana”) and are doing well (“vyavasthith”). How everything is happening, we don’t know, because the oneness of the collectivity, its form, in this oneness you are enjoying yourself, whether you’re sitting under the pavilion (“mandap”), whether you are sitting near the river or you are sitting anywhere. When four Sahaja yogis meet, they start enjoying themselves. All this is the evolution of happiness (“anand ka pradurbhav"). The happiness spreads within. Its place is within our heart, and when we achieve this happiness within us like you have been told that in Sahasrara it becomes complete joy (“nirananda"). Nobody can say this is happiness. "Nirananda”, complete joy in everything, in small-small things, in big-big things, in everything you get happiness, and when your sight falls on things which are wrong, which are harmful to the society, due to which people are becoming sad, you will be amazed that your attention will be implemented (“karyanvith") and your attention will remove all such negative things. Your attention should go there, but if your attention is on yourself, then it is useless because this attention is enlightened. Wherever you put this attention, on anything that you know, immediately that thing can get rectified, collectively. But we have to keep our attention clean. If our attention is entangled on nonsense things, then it cannot be implemented as much. But if our attention is filled ("plavith”) with the ultimate power and is blessed by it, then the attention can do so much work. Wherever you go, you will be amazed. Only yesterday we thought about it, and today the work is done. And on a large scale, in a large collective manner, the work will be done. To think that we are only two or four Sahaja yogis. So what about us? You are not only two or four Sahaja yogis. You are many in every country, and everywhere you people are settled. 31.51 End of talk in Hindi Transcript of Talk in English 31:52 to 35:24 [Mother talks in English] I am sorry I have to speak in the Hindi language because there are so many people who know only Hindi. But I am sorry for you because I won't be able to meet you again as you are going away on the tour. What I was telling them is that whatever you may be taught through religion and whatever they might frighten you that you will go to hell and this will happen, that will happen, whatever it is, people are not afraid of it. And what do they want? They want that whatever they have to do, they'll do it. They are not afraid. The fear has gone. The fear of God has gone; the fear of sin has gone. All this is finished. And that's why it is important to understand that we have to become transformed into a new personality. This personality becomes the Ocean of Peace, the Ocean of Peace, and with this peace, you can spread peace. And when you are peaceful, you see the reality of your life, the beauty of your life. Then you understand that others are also as beautiful as you are. Now all this destruction, the wars, all kinds of thing that are going on, because we think the others are there and we are different. We are all one, tied together in one thread. Even the Mother Earth is a part and parcel of that. All the stars and all these heavenly bodies are part and parcel of that, and we are one of that. 33.39 So this has to change. The world has to change through you. You are the catalyst. Through you, it will change. Not by talking about it or by threatening people or telling them stories. All kinds of things are going on in this world. It is the transformation which is very important, and that is so easy to get because you are seekers. You are seekers of truth. You know it's very easy to get and to be experienced. In that, when you experience that peace within yourself, people see, they are impressed, and you can spread peace. Peace is only possible if there is genuine divine love flowing within you. Otherwise, talk of peace is all useless. I've known people who have got Peace awards; I don't know why they got it. They have no peace within. You must have the peace within, and that peace is only possible when you are transformed into a new being, a new personality. All the prophecies are there. All the scriptures have talked about it. All the incarnations and all the saints have talked about it. That transformation is at hand. If you want to have that transformation, it's not at all difficult, but you must know you are capable of getting that transformation very easily and retaining it. 35.09 I am sorry now you will be all going on the tour and I won’t be travelling with you this time, but I hope you all enjoy your travel and enjoy the art and beauty. May God bless you all! 35.24 End of talk in English Transcript of Talk in Hindi 35:55 to 35:30 [Mother talks in Hindi] May God bless you all! 35.30 End of talk in Hindi Transcript of Talk in English 35:31 to 35:33 [Mother talks in English] I am so very happy to see you all here. 35:33 End of talk in English Transcript of Talk in Hindi 35:34 to 38:53 [Mother talks in Hindi] I am so very happy to see you all here. I could not even think that Sahaja Yoga will spread so far. Today I can see it. And now I have got high hopes that the world will now change. Undoubtedly it will change now (Sahaja yogis are clapping in the background). Today’s program is very small, to give you your Self-realization. So many realized people are sitting here, that there is not quite a necessity, but if you want then it can be done easily. In India, it is very easy to give realization. But outside, My hands and legs used to hurt. It is very easy here because you don't know on which land you all are sitting. This land is very great, and the person is sitting on this land which is an extremely holy thing. Our country is very pure, and this country has many holy and religious powers which are helping you. You don't know that people of India, whatever you say, some are very spoiled, they have become rotten, but in a particular way, they are more religious. Because of that, I have seen that thousands of people can get their realization instantly, but the capacity to go into depth is very low. Like these foreign people will take much time. They had not heard that something like this can happen. They take much time to get their realization, but when they settle, they go deep. They settle like each one will become one diamond. All these things should be there in you. Half unfinished work is not good. So I request you all again you get your realization, but after that, you have to mediate in this and get into the depth and progress in that, and when you give realization to others, you will experience happiness in that. There is nothing better than this, there is nothing more pleasing than this, and you must have seen that many people have given realization to others. They have awakened their Kundalini and they have transformed them. Like these things are there. 38:18 In Italy, one mafia leader came to meet me and started saying to Me, “Mother, please give me my awakening.” Then I asked him, “What will happen to your mafia?”. Then he said, “What is the use of this mafia? There is nothing in it, and I don’t want it. I want to go into God’s mafia.” Then I replied, “God does not have any mafia. In the court of God there is only love. There is nothing else.” And that person got his realization, and he has closed all his mafia in that place. Like this, slowly, slowly, many things will get right. (Mother clears her throat). 38:53 End of talk in Hindi Shri Mataji is now beginning the program of Self-realisation 38:54 to 46:39 [Mother talks in Hindi]: Now all of you keep the hands like this towards Me. [Mother talks in English]: Please put your both the hands towards Me, please. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Both the hands towards Me like this, straight, and now on the fontanelle bone area. Keep your eyes open. No need to close your eyes. Keep your right hand on the fontanelle bone area. Keep it like this, above your head, on top of your head. On the top of your head. [Mother talks in English]: Please put your right hand on the top of your fontanelle bone area, a little away from the head, not on the top, I mean touching the head. Please hold it, and put the left hand towards Me like this. You can feel a cool or a hot breeze coming out of your fontanelle bone area. It may be cool or hot. If you are overactive, if you think too much, you will be hot. Just see there will a cool breeze coming out of your fontanelle bone area. Now please put your right hand towards Me, bend your head and see for yourself, if there is a cool or a hot breeze coming out of your fontanelle bone area. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Now, put your left hand on top of your head, comfortably keep it, and bend your head and see from within you. From inside, because of your Kundalini awakening, a cool or hot breeze is coming from your head. Collectively, it will work faster. Now move your hand. Sometimes you have to move it above your head, and some may get it at some height, some may get at a lower level. Move your hand around and see. Now, left hand towards Me and right hand on your head, above the fontanelle bone area, which was the tender part when you were a baby, on the top. Put your right hand above. [Mother talks in English]: Now please put your left hand towards Me and put the right hand on top of your fontanelle bone area, which was a soft bone in your childhood. Try to see if there is cool or a hot breeze coming out. Now lift both your hands high like this, please. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Everyone lift your hand up like this, and bend your head backwards and ask Me one question, any one of the three questions, three times. [Mother talks in English]: Please raise your hands, towards the sky and you have to ask one question out of the three questions, whichever you feel proper. Now the first question is: [Mother talks in Hindi]: Is this the power of Adi Shakti? [Mother talks in English]: Is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Ask this question. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Mother, is this the All-pervading Power of God (“Paramchaitanya”)? [Mother talks in English]: Please ask the question, is this Paramchaitanya, the All-pervading Power of Divine Love? You can ask the question, “Is it Ruah (“Spirit”)? Mother, is it Ruah, as described in the Quran?” Ask any one of these questions, three times. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Out of this ask anyone question three times. Lift your hands up and bend your head back. Now put your hands down. Again, put your hands towards Me. [Mother talks in English]: Please put your hands again towards Me, and don’t think because the first thing that happens is that you become thoughtlessly aware. [Mother talks in Hindi]: After this, when the Kundalini crosses the Agnya chakra, then you will enter into the thoughtless awareness state. You will be fully conscious, but you will be thoughtless. Thoughtlessness is very important. Please put both your hands towards Me and try to become thoughtless. [Mother talks in English]: Please put both your hands towards Me and try to become thoughtlessly aware. Now see if there is a cool or hot breeze coming on your hands or your fingertips or out of your fontanelle bone area. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Now look at your hands, whether you get a cold or hot breeze coming out, which are called as vibrations ("chaitanya lahiri”), or vibrations are coming in your fingertips, or in your palm, or from your head, which is called as the “Brahmarandra” (fontanelle bone), coming from it. Now some of you have experienced it. [Mother talks in English]: Those who have experienced it. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Please put your both hands up. [Mother talks in English]: Please raise both your hands. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Countless (“Ananta”) blessings to everyone, every, every person who is sitting here, each and every person. [Mother talks in English]: May God bless you all. May God bless you. Everyone who is sitting here has got it. May God bless you. May God bless you. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Countless blessings, and more blessings for children. Put your hands down. All of you are realised now. But now going forward by making a little effort, you can clear your chakras as well. Your problems should be solved. Now when we will meet again, I hope that twice the number of people will come here. I hope you all are always happy in this Ocean of Joy. Countless blessings. [Mother talks in English]: May God bless you all. 46:39

Public Program [Translation from Hindi to English] My salutations to all the seekers of truth! Firstly, we should know that truth has many interpretations, and many books have been written on this. On religion (“Dharamapurasar”) how many books, how many preaching’s, how many bhajans, how much devotion are there in front of you? Today is the special day of Guru Tegh Bahadur ("one of the ten gurus in Sikh religion"). He also said that you should be devoted to God. By being devoted to God, you can attain your inner balance, inner peace, and all the negativities that are clinging onto us will all be destroyed. But now today's world is not like that. Nowadays, people in the world are special. On one side there are people who are seekers. They are searching and want to find the truth. And on the other side, they are people who are not afraid of anything. They are not afraid of God Almighty. If you tell them, "If you do wrong things you will go to hell," they do not believe in such things. It is said that for seven generations people take up this sin; we do not know how much. They go through all types of sorrow and pain. Whatever you tell them, you try to scare them, whatever you tell them, that fear won't affect them. They have become stone-hearted people. 03.00 Now killing is a big sin. Killing people in this manner, killing small children, is a very big sin. But when the feeling of sin itself is completely finished and no one believes in sin or saintly virtues and has a feeling that, “I am everything and whatever I do is right, and for money I can kill whoever I want to kill”. This status of today’s Kali Yug was never like this before. I agree that not all people are like that. Many people are very religious, they are good, and they believe that they should not commit sin. Not only that, they do not even do sin. But people who are terrorist-like ("aatataayi"), who are extremist, because of their pain, because of their difficulties, people are suffering today. People ask, "Where is God? Where is the power of God?" In life, we always walked on the right path, but still, we have to face people like Dalit, I mean, who have fallen so low. Such people are troubling us. Nowadays, without any reason, people have started beating. Now in the name of religion, they think killing somebody is a good deed. I don't understand. In the name of God, people do not even feel bad about destroying others. In the name of God, they collect money. In the name of God, they say all kinds of lies and spread hypocrisy. 05.08 Nowadays, the problem is too much, and nobody is able to realise or feel or even think how you can kill such small children, kill ladies. I have never seen so much cruelty. If there is any reason or any war, at least it can be understood. But it is nothing like that; only for money. Because somebody has given money, so you go and kill anyone. In today’s world, because of greediness for money, people don’t understand how they are falling into the pit of sin. 05.53 I agree that there is poverty in the world. In our country, there is a lot of poverty. We can do things to remove poverty; we can think about it, understand it. This has only one meaning, that people have become completely blind; they do not understand why they are doing this, and just like mad everywhere they are destroying themselves. The only treatment for this in this Kali Yuga is Sahaja Yoga. For this, first, you need to know yourself, what you are. Unless you identify yourself, you won't understand dharma or God. Because in the name of religion ("dharma") they are many sins happening in the world, and in the name of goodness they are looting many people. Some people do not understand what to do to improve the state of human beings. People are now afraid of each other; they are fearful and worried, and they are not afraid of God. By talking about all these things, only heat is increased and nothing else. But people don't have the sensation ("samvedana"). They do not have the power inside them by which they can know what they are doing, into which pit they are falling, what they are doing, where they are getting misled. No matter how much you make them understand or teach them, they do not understand. It is only mental, which is called "mental" assessment, not beyond that. So if a person understands by his intelligence, they may go one way — go on the right path — or another side, he may go on the wrong path. Whatever is happening in the world, people are in doubt. They think there is nothing like God. There is no any power in his consciousness ("Chaitanya"). 08.15 Now we need to understand that unless there is a change in human beings unless people change unless they understand what is reality, and after understanding still he does not get the affinity ("aatmeeyata"), till that the time, they will be worse than animals. At least animals won't kill their children. If you leave some animals together and if they belong to the same species, they won't kill each other. And we are destroying our own species that is, the species of human beings, by taking big, big names, by talking about big, big goals (“dheya”). It cannot benefit anyone. It won’t help you at all. But by Me talking about it, nothing is going to change. For this, you have to change from within. You have to know this from inside that you have to understand what you are. For this, God has made all the arrangements within you. Inside you, there is a power of Kundalini, and you have been told everything about it, and all these chakras are there, through which it is necessary that the Kundalini energy passes. 09.47 All the big gurus have explained about Kundalini. In all the religions, Kundalini has been explained. Even Mohammed Sahib has said when he got his realization, then he felt like he was sitting on a white horse and had passed the seven destinations (“manzile") like we have the seven chakras. But nobody reads it in depth. They don't understand it. Any guru, whoever was a real guru, if you listen to them, they have told about the same things. Other than changing within you, there is no other way. Because of the change inside you, you will get all the powers, you will become strong, you will understand your self-respect, and you will be dignified ("gauranveeth”) in your self-respect. You will understand that this dignity is an asset for you; a very big asset has come within us that we understand our spirit and we respect it. 11.03 Now, this cannot happen that I say that, "You are the spirit," and then you will ask, "Where is it? How can you say this is a spirit?" You have to prove it. And this proof ("siddhatha”) you will achieve in Sahaja Yoga. Another thing you have to understand is that you have this power within you. Everyone has that power inside. All the people who are sitting here, according to Me, around ninety-nine per cent have felt it and have experienced it. This is a matter of pleasure for Me also. Here, in Uttar Pradesh and in Delhi, many people have accepted it and even adapted to it, and after adapting it, they have settled it within. 11.55 Now it is your responsibility that, whatever powers you have within you, you have to know them. What are all the powers you have? The first power you have is that you yourself can give Self-realisation to others. The second power which will come inside you is that all the worldly wishes, desires and greediness will disappear because the darkness within you is destroyed by the light. Then you will always follow the enlightened path. In that light only, we find all the solutions, happiness. We get a lot of peace, and we were waiting for this very experience. What we are experiencing today is not just for talking about, but for us to experience it, and when this happens, people will attain a special form; what I say is, they will be called great humans. The meaning of a great human is that person who can feel for everyone inside themselves. We call this collective consciousness. This will be awakened within us, and with this collective consciousness, why would we kill anyone? Who is the other person whom we are killing? We are killing our people. Whom do we have to cheat? We are cheating our own people. We have to understand that the whole world is inside us. It won't happen by just understanding it. You have to feel it and experience it within yourself. When you experience this, you will be amazed to know that you are an Ocean of Peace. Peace is seated in a beautiful form within you, and you want to spread that peace far and wide. You will think, "Why should only I experience it? I want to give this experience to many people." In this way, an internal collectiveness will be established within you. There is no need to talk about religion ("dharma"), no need to spread fear, no need to blackmail anyone. When you get your light within, then you will start honouring yourself, and in that honour, all these useless things that you are running behind in this world will be stopped. 14.34 Like when we were coming now, on the way there were many vehicles, so many vehicles and vehicles passing by, going this way and the other way. If for one moment you stop and look, then you will see how they are going like mad people in opposite directions. What are they doing? What do they get? This will be your condition. Then you will stand by yourself and stop them. “Dear brother, the way is this side, not the other side. The power which is within you, this awakening power is within you, the power to purify ourselves, is within you.” On the way when I was coming, I was reading “Clean Delhi” (“Swachha Delhi”). How can it be clean? “Swa” means your own spirit. With this only it can happen. What is the use of this outside cleanliness? When you are cleansed inside, then you will know what you are. Then you will know how many good qualities are there in you, how much love is flowing within you, how much joy can be created within you. And many of you have experienced it. I am not saying anything new, but now we have to increase this thing and give it to others. 15.54 I came to know that people have come here from many places, from outside India, from foreign countries and even from all the nearby places. People from Uttar Pradesh, people from Delhi have come here. Now you have to think you all are one family. This feeling of oneness should not be only a mental thing (“jama kharch”). It should be from within. You should feel it inside you in reality, that we all are really one. We are different waves of the same sea. We are stirred up as one (“aadolit"). The same movement is going on, and when you achieve this thing correctly when you get onto this properly, we don't know how one person can change many people's lives. In this way, only Sahaja Yoga can be spread. But in this process, we can't get defensive ("pratarna”). We cannot cheat this. Many people cheat us. They take money from us. Let them go. People who are like that, who are doing wrong things, let them do it. Now you should know what you are, what your powers are and how you are using them. One guru has come, only one. He changed the world. He has done so much, he has written so much, he has spoken so much. And we are in thousands, thousands of thousands spread everywhere, and we all are one. At first, the ideology was one master, one saint, one Sufi, and everyone used to trouble them, trick them. Now it is not like that. We all are one. Whichever caste we are off, whether we were born as Hindu or born as Muslim or born as Christian, it does not matter. Whether you were born in this country or any other country, it does not matter. You will feel this oneness wherever you go. 18.01 Now, you need to experience it. This means something should happen to you. You have to become something. In Sahaja Yoga, it is not like that you pay 10 paise and you become a member. It does not happen like that. You have to become, and that depth is very easy for you to achieve. There is no question of money in this — God does not know what money is — but you will also understand that the becoming is ('not'"?) difficult. It happens on its own, on its own everything. All the goodwill descend upon us by itself and will enlighten us. So what is this thing? How it is happening? Because when your Kundalini is awakened, you are connected to the power which is spread all over the world. You will achieve oneness with that power. From that oneness, you yourself, like this electricity – all around this electricity is there. It is connected to the mains from where the electricity is coming. In the same way, you are also always connected to power. After it is connected, you will see all your work will be sorted out. Everything will be corrected. If you make any mistake, that will also be corrected. Now what I am saying is not a lie. You can prove it (“pratyay"), you experience it, and after you have experienced it, you will feel, "Why am I worried? Everything is fine. Why am I worried? What am I worried about?" For all things, there is a limit, and when it crosses the limit, after seeing it you will be amazed that everything has become right. Everything is set right. This is your experience, and this experience you have spread all around the world because today our country is on such a brink ("kagaar”), you don’t know when it will fall apart. Hence you all are the axis (“dhuree samayee"). You have stopped it. You are only the element to support it. Not like, "Now I am a Sahaja Yogi" and then it is done. This country's expectation ("pratya”) is spoilt. Its circumstances are spoilt. You all have to stand together to stop it. And you all have the blessing inside you by which you can achieve all types of powers within you. 20.43 Today here we have seen many big gurus. Many big incarnations have come, but all these incarnations now should be visible in you. People must be able to see, and they have to think something great has come, something special has come. They are not so-so (“aise waise”) people who are stupid. This is not just stupid talk. I don’t know from where we have got this cruelty inside, and how so many low type words have been established (“samanvay”) within us. If it is only for money, then also it can be understood. But other than that, somehow this is a kind of a demonic tendency (“pravritti”), and this demonic tendency has increased a lot in the present world. Earlier, there was only one Ravana, but now I can see out of every ten people, there is one Ravana that stands out. But if the remaining ten people are Sahaja Yogis, they can completely destroy this one Ravan. Destroying Ravana means by awakening them, not by removing his ten heads. You have to give them their Self-realisation, and after giving them their Self-realisation, you have to make them experience this happiness. 22.09 The path of Sahaja is of love, only love, and love is only the ultimate truth. There is no difference between truth and love, but if you love someone you will know everything about him. We have to use this power of love. People do not understand that this enlightenment (“chaitanya srishti"), all of this is raining love inside us. From this, the love flows, and this love will spread over the world, that you will be amazed at what this world was and what it was not. In your lifetime only, in your life only, it will happen, and seeing this you will be surprised that you have changed this world, and from where to where you have taken it. (Sahaja yogis are clapping in the background). 23.09 You need not work hard. It is all a pleasure for you all. When you have come from far-off places, you have seen that when you sat in the lorry coming here, you were enjoying it. When you had to stay in another place where there were no proper arrangements to stay, there also you were enjoying. When I came in the aeroplane I was worried. What if the aeroplane does not arrive on time? Then I didn’t know how many people, poor things, could have come. But when I reached here, I saw that everyone was safe, laughing. I asked them, “What were you all doing when the plane was four to five hours late?” They replied, “Oh Mother, we had so much fun. Like this we did not have anywhere else.” These things have to be understood, that normally people will be worried while waiting, but here while waiting people enjoyed and saw all these beautiful matchless things like this. All of this life is in front of you. Just you have to get into this. You have to make an effort to get into this. Carefully you have to get into this, and you have to achieve it. This work cannot be known by the brain, nor can these things be done by hard work that you stand upside down on your head. It is nothing like that; you just get mixed and get melted into this. The greatness of this love is that you won’t face any difficulties. All your difficulties will be destroyed, and a new awakening will happen within you. With that, you will feel the whole world is something amazing. 25.02 By the way, if you see, God has made a beautiful world. Nothing is God's fault, and He has also made Kundalini and placed it within you. He also wants you to achieve your awakening and get into this, but you people are involved in small-small things. It is all useless talk like someone says that "Sir, I am a Christian. I don't agree to it. I am so and so. I don't agree to it." What is the benefit you will get by disagreeing? In all the religions it has been written that you have to get your Self-realization. Without Self-realization, you cannot know about God. This is the absolute truth, and until you achieve it you will be restless; you will be worried; you will have problems. But as soon as the Ocean of Love starts overflowing and pulls you within yourself, you will think you don’t know how this has happened. Many Sahaja yogis have asked Me whether our past life karma was so good that we could achieve this thing. I said, “Don’t talk about past lives. Talk about this life only. In this life, you have got your transformation, and accept this transformation with utmost humility (“sar ankhon pe”), and because of this, all the work that needs to be done, do it with love.” 26.25 Some people can be bad. They get into Sahaja Yoga, no problem. You don't have anything to give and take with them. Your give and take should only be with God Almighty, the supreme consciousness. It has so much fragrance – there is no other path like this. Because helpless people who came before, incarnations, gurus, first were not able to give your awakening, and another thing is that you were not capable of understanding them. This is something that reaches to the wisdom of the general public. One simple work is to awaken the Kundalini. For this, there is no need to see any caste, creed or anything. All this is meaningless talk, is meaningless rebellion ("vidroha”). All the relationships amongst each other, the love, you must understand in different ways, in which there is no greed, no infatuation, no jealousy (“matsar"), only love, and love is there. Such is a relationship that gets developed with others in Sahaja Yoga, and if anything is lacking, then you can clear it by meditation. You have the right to lead a pretty ("sundartam”) great life like this, and you have to achieve it. 27.51 India is the land of yoga (“yogabhoomi"). Here, whatever happens, useless things are always happening, but still, this is the land of yoga, and it means that in this land of yoga, the glory of the consciousness ("Chaitanya ki mahima”) is the maximum. The consciousness is spread in all four directions. Now you talk about pollution, but I can see the consciousness (“chaitanya") in all four directions. Where you all are sitting, there is a lot of consciousness around. As and when the Sahaja yogis increase, all these things, like pollution and other such things, will automatically be destroyed. These words I am saying, please keep in mind. Now give attention to your own life. What are we doing? How are we living our lives? Night and day we are worried about money, night and day we are worried about useless things, or are we sitting and putting our attention towards ourselves and seeing our own dignity, seeing our greatness, and along with that, we are seeing the flow of our love being spread all around the world. All these things are the ultimate duty of a Sahaja yogi. For this, you do not need to give any money. There is no need to do anything. All this work will be done in the right way, but one thing we have to do is to know about ourselves completely, how great we are, what specialities we have. 29.17 Today, you people have come here on this day. Many people have taken the trouble to come here. I heard that some have come from outside. There are no proper facilities here so that I can do some arrangements for My children. But I see that they are filled within themselves (“samaana”) and are doing well (“vyavasthith”). How everything is happening, we don’t know, because the oneness of the collectivity, its form, in this oneness you are enjoying yourself, whether you’re sitting under the pavilion (“mandap”), whether you are sitting near the river or you are sitting anywhere. When four Sahaja yogis meet, they start enjoying themselves. All this is the evolution of happiness (“anand ka pradurbhav"). The happiness spreads within. Its place is within our heart, and when we achieve this happiness within us like you have been told that in Sahasrara it becomes complete joy (“nirananda"). Nobody can say this is happiness. "Nirananda”, complete joy in everything, in small-small things, in big-big things, in everything you get happiness, and when your sight falls on things which are wrong, which are harmful to the society, due to which people are becoming sad, you will be amazed that your attention will be implemented (“karyanvith") and your attention will remove all such negative things. Your attention should go there, but if your attention is on yourself, then it is useless because this attention is enlightened. Wherever you put this attention, on anything that you know, immediately that thing can get rectified, collectively. But we have to keep our attention clean. If our attention is entangled on nonsense things, then it cannot be implemented as much. But if our attention is filled ("plavith”) with the ultimate power and is blessed by it, then the attention can do so much work. Wherever you go, you will be amazed. Only yesterday we thought about it, and today the work is done. And on a large scale, in a large collective manner, the work will be done. To think that we are only two or four Sahaja yogis. So what about us? You are not only two or four Sahaja yogis. You are many in every country, and everywhere you people are settled. 31.51 End of talk in Hindi Transcript of Talk in English 31:52 to 35:24 [Mother talks in English] I am sorry I have to speak in the Hindi language because there are so many people who know only Hindi. But I am sorry for you because I won't be able to meet you again as you are going away on the tour. What I was telling them is that whatever you may be taught through religion and whatever they might frighten you that you will go to hell and this will happen, that will happen, whatever it is, people are not afraid of it. And what do they want? They want that whatever they have to do, they'll do it. They are not afraid. The fear has gone. The fear of God has gone; the fear of sin has gone. All this is finished. And that's why it is important to understand that we have to become transformed into a new personality. This personality becomes the Ocean of Peace, the Ocean of Peace, and with this peace, you can spread peace. And when you are peaceful, you see the reality of your life, the beauty of your life. Then you understand that others are also as beautiful as you are. Now all this destruction, the wars, all kinds of thing that are going on, because we think the others are there and we are different. We are all one, tied together in one thread. Even the Mother Earth is a part and parcel of that. All the stars and all these heavenly bodies are part and parcel of that, and we are one of that. 33.39 So this has to change. The world has to change through you. You are the catalyst. Through you, it will change. Not by talking about it or by threatening people or telling them stories. All kinds of things are going on in this world. It is the transformation which is very important, and that is so easy to get because you are seekers. You are seekers of truth. You know it's very easy to get and to be experienced. In that, when you experience that peace within yourself, people see, they are impressed, and you can spread peace. Peace is only possible if there is genuine divine love flowing within you. Otherwise, talk of peace is all useless. I've known people who have got Peace awards; I don't know why they got it. They have no peace within. You must have the peace within, and that peace is only possible when you are transformed into a new being, a new personality. All the prophecies are there. All the scriptures have talked about it. All the incarnations and all the saints have talked about it. That transformation is at hand. If you want to have that transformation, it's not at all difficult, but you must know you are capable of getting that transformation very easily and retaining it. 35.09 I am sorry now you will be all going on the tour and I won’t be travelling with you this time, but I hope you all enjoy your travel and enjoy the art and beauty. May God bless you all! 35.24 End of talk in English Transcript of Talk in Hindi 35:55 to 35:30 [Mother talks in Hindi] May God bless you all! 35.30 End of talk in Hindi Transcript of Talk in English 35:31 to 35:33 [Mother talks in English] I am so very happy to see you all here. 35:33 End of talk in English Transcript of Talk in Hindi 35:34 to 38:53 [Mother talks in Hindi] I am so very happy to see you all here. I could not even think that Sahaja Yoga will spread so far. Today I can see it. And now I have got high hopes that the world will now change. Undoubtedly it will change now (Sahaja yogis are clapping in the background). Today’s program is very small, to give you your Self-realization. So many realized people are sitting here, that there is not quite a necessity, but if you want then it can be done easily. In India, it is very easy to give realization. But outside, My hands and legs used to hurt. It is very easy here because you don't know on which land you all are sitting. This land is very great, and the person is sitting on this land which is an extremely holy thing. Our country is very pure, and this country has many holy and religious powers which are helping you. You don't know that people of India, whatever you say, some are very spoiled, they have become rotten, but in a particular way, they are more religious. Because of that, I have seen that thousands of people can get their realization instantly, but the capacity to go into depth is very low. Like these foreign people will take much time. They had not heard that something like this can happen. They take much time to get their realization, but when they settle, they go deep. They settle like each one will become one diamond. All these things should be there in you. Half unfinished work is not good. So I request you all again you get your realization, but after that, you have to mediate in this and get into the depth and progress in that, and when you give realization to others, you will experience happiness in that. There is nothing better than this, there is nothing more pleasing than this, and you must have seen that many people have given realization to others. They have awakened their Kundalini and they have transformed them. Like these things are there. 38:18 In Italy, one mafia leader came to meet me and started saying to Me, “Mother, please give me my awakening.” Then I asked him, “What will happen to your mafia?”. Then he said, “What is the use of this mafia? There is nothing in it, and I don’t want it. I want to go into God’s mafia.” Then I replied, “God does not have any mafia. In the court of God there is only love. There is nothing else.” And that person got his realization, and he has closed all his mafia in that place. Like this, slowly, slowly, many things will get right. (Mother clears her throat). 38:53 End of talk in Hindi Shri Mataji is now beginning the program of Self-realisation 38:54 to 46:39 [Mother talks in Hindi]: Now all of you keep the hands like this towards Me. [Mother talks in English]: Please put your both the hands towards Me, please. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Both the hands towards Me like this, straight, and now on the fontanelle bone area. Keep your eyes open. No need to close your eyes. Keep your right hand on the fontanelle bone area. Keep it like this, above your head, on top of your head. On the top of your head. [Mother talks in English]: Please put your right hand on the top of your fontanelle bone area, a little away from the head, not on the top, I mean touching the head. Please hold it, and put the left hand towards Me like this. You can feel a cool or a hot breeze coming out of your fontanelle bone area. It may be cool or hot. If you are overactive, if you think too much, you will be hot. Just see there will a cool breeze coming out of your fontanelle bone area. Now please put your right hand towards Me, bend your head and see for yourself, if there is a cool or a hot breeze coming out of your fontanelle bone area. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Now, put your left hand on top of your head, comfortably keep it, and bend your head and see from within you. From inside, because of your Kundalini awakening, a cool or hot breeze is coming from your head. Collectively, it will work faster. Now move your hand. Sometimes you have to move it above your head, and some may get it at some height, some may get at a lower level. Move your hand around and see. Now, left hand towards Me and right hand on your head, above the fontanelle bone area, which was the tender part when you were a baby, on the top. Put your right hand above. [Mother talks in English]: Now please put your left hand towards Me and put the right hand on top of your fontanelle bone area, which was a soft bone in your childhood. Try to see if there is cool or a hot breeze coming out. Now lift both your hands high like this, please. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Everyone lift your hand up like this, and bend your head backwards and ask Me one question, any one of the three questions, three times. [Mother talks in English]: Please raise your hands, towards the sky and you have to ask one question out of the three questions, whichever you feel proper. Now the first question is: [Mother talks in Hindi]: Is this the power of Adi Shakti? [Mother talks in English]: Is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Ask this question. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Mother, is this the All-pervading Power of God (“Paramchaitanya”)? [Mother talks in English]: Please ask the question, is this Paramchaitanya, the All-pervading Power of Divine Love? You can ask the question, “Is it Ruah (“Spirit”)? Mother, is it Ruah, as described in the Quran?” Ask any one of these questions, three times. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Out of this ask anyone question three times. Lift your hands up and bend your head back. Now put your hands down. Again, put your hands towards Me. [Mother talks in English]: Please put your hands again towards Me, and don’t think because the first thing that happens is that you become thoughtlessly aware. [Mother talks in Hindi]: After this, when the Kundalini crosses the Agnya chakra, then you will enter into the thoughtless awareness state. You will be fully conscious, but you will be thoughtless. Thoughtlessness is very important. Please put both your hands towards Me and try to become thoughtless. [Mother talks in English]: Please put both your hands towards Me and try to become thoughtlessly aware. Now see if there is a cool or hot breeze coming on your hands or your fingertips or out of your fontanelle bone area. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Now look at your hands, whether you get a cold or hot breeze coming out, which are called as vibrations ("chaitanya lahiri”), or vibrations are coming in your fingertips, or in your palm, or from your head, which is called as the “Brahmarandra” (fontanelle bone), coming from it. Now some of you have experienced it. [Mother talks in English]: Those who have experienced it. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Please put your both hands up. [Mother talks in English]: Please raise both your hands. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Countless (“Ananta”) blessings to everyone, every, every person who is sitting here, each and every person. [Mother talks in English]: May God bless you all. May God bless you. Everyone who is sitting here has got it. May God bless you. May God bless you. [Mother talks in Hindi]: Countless blessings, and more blessings for children. Put your hands down. All of you are realised now. But now going forward by making a little effort, you can clear your chakras as well. Your problems should be solved. Now when we will meet again, I hope that twice the number of people will come here. I hope you all are always happy in this Ocean of Joy. Countless blessings. [Mother talks in English]: May God bless you all. 46:39

12/24/1997

http://amruta.org/?p=12898

Evening Program and Talk on Christmas eve

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Ganapatipule (India), December 24th, 1997 (Music played on tape; then Shri Mataji says the following ... ) I wish you all very Happy Christmas and very, very, very prosperous New Year. I am Myself amazed at these people who have come to the Academy and have picked up this difficult Indian music so easily. Some of them have been only for two months. Imagine, people spend all their lives learning classical music and how these people have picked it up so fast. I mean, they say it is due to Sahaja Yoga but that is really a miracle, really a miracle. Even the Indian music sung by Indian musician here today amazed Me the way they have been singing like great Ustads and I just don't know how they have done this, and how they have achieved this, because I know in My family there was too much of music and those who were interested used to get up in the morning and practice every day for three hours in the morning, and three hours in the evening; while I find here the people coming from countries where they don't know a word about Indian music, picking it up so fast. Maybe - I just can't explain - maybe their previous lives they might have been in India or maybe…. that they are so talented. I can't explain, because this is really, if it is due to Sahaja Yoga, I must say, Sahaja Yoga is something that creates miracles within and without. I have seen only the miracles without, but now this is the miracle within that people who have never sung Indian music, have never heard about Indian music, are picking it up in one or two months or three months. Impossible! If you tell somebody, they won't believe it! Now, today's program is over but tomorrow I will see you. At 12 o'clock we'll have our Puja, and afterwards, in the night, you can have another program if you want. But we'll have our Puja in the daytime would be much better, though Christ was born 12 o'clock in the night, but I'm born 12 o'clock in the daytime. So with this praying and worshipping, you really know that in Sahaja Yoga we respect all the incarnations, all the prophets, and all the religions in their essence. This is something so great about Sahaja Yoga, and that you all have accepted it is even greater. So may God bless you all. Hope to see you tomorrow for the Puja. May God bless you. Tomorrow evening I would like, or maybe morning time, some of the leaders from the West to come down to decide about what Pujas they will have on behalf of their country. So some of you if you could come, I'll be thankful. Tomorrow, about say 9 o'clock? Or 10 o'clock. Thank you.

Ganapatipule (India), December 24th, 1997 (Music played on tape; then Shri Mataji says the following ... ) I wish you all very Happy Christmas and very, very, very prosperous New Year. I am Myself amazed at these people who have come to the Academy and have picked up this difficult Indian music so easily. Some of them have been only for two months. Imagine, people spend all their lives learning classical music and how these people have picked it up so fast. I mean, they say it is due to Sahaja Yoga but that is really a miracle, really a miracle. Even the Indian music sung by Indian musician here today amazed Me the way they have been singing like great Ustads and I just don't know how they have done this, and how they have achieved this, because I know in My family there was too much of music and those who were interested used to get up in the morning and practice every day for three hours in the morning, and three hours in the evening; while I find here the people coming from countries where they don't know a word about Indian music, picking it up so fast. Maybe - I just can't explain - maybe their previous lives they might have been in India or maybe…. that they are so talented. I can't explain, because this is really, if it is due to Sahaja Yoga, I must say, Sahaja Yoga is something that creates miracles within and without. I have seen only the miracles without, but now this is the miracle within that people who have never sung Indian music, have never heard about Indian music, are picking it up in one or two months or three months. Impossible! If you tell somebody, they won't believe it! Now, today's program is over but tomorrow I will see you. At 12 o'clock we'll have our Puja, and afterwards, in the night, you can have another program if you want. But we'll have our Puja in the daytime would be much better, though Christ was born 12 o'clock in the night, but I'm born 12 o'clock in the daytime. So with this praying and worshipping, you really know that in Sahaja Yoga we respect all the incarnations, all the prophets, and all the religions in their essence. This is something so great about Sahaja Yoga, and that you all have accepted it is even greater. So may God bless you all. Hope to see you tomorrow for the Puja. May God bless you. Tomorrow evening I would like, or maybe morning time, some of the leaders from the West to come down to decide about what Pujas they will have on behalf of their country. So some of you if you could come, I'll be thankful. Tomorrow, about say 9 o'clock? Or 10 o'clock. Thank you.

12/25/1997

http://amruta.org/?p=4167

Christmas Puja: You have to be loving, affectionate, kind and disciplined

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Christmas Puja. Ganapatipule (India), 25 December 1997. Christmas Puja,Ganapatipule (India), 25.01.1997 [Translated from Hindi] Today, we are here to celebrate the birthday of Shri Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ's life was very short and He spent most of His time in India, in Kashmir. He went back just for last three years and people fixed Him to a cross. It was somewhat destined. To open Agnya chakra He had to offer this sacrifice. So in this way He set up Agnya chakra. Agnya chakra is very constricted small and not easily openable because a human being got freedom that made him egoistic. This ego constricted his Agnya chakra. And from that constricted Agnya chakra it was necessary to take out ego And to take out ego you have to control your [MAAN - Mind]. But you do not take out your ego from your [MAAN] As soon as you will try to take out your ego from your [MAAN] the [MAAN] will go on increasing and the ego will go on increasing [ AHAAM KAROTI SAHA AHAMKAR ] We do ! It means that if we try to minimise our ego the ego will shoot up because we will try to do so with the help of ego only. Those who think that to our ego will suppress will eat less food worldwide violence one standing on one foot and some on their head Every type of experiment people do to destroy their ego But it does not supress the ego. It shoots up. To fast, to do [JAP TAP- ritüel] everything shoots up ego ! Havana also gives rise to ego ! Because Agni is right sided. Whatever karmakand we do, rituals we perform gives rise to our ego. For the past thousands of years human beings have been doing the same type of karmakand. Everything inside out whatever has been taught, is he doing. This is why Sahajyoga is against karmakand. There is no need to do any karmakand. And to go to the extremes is all the more bad. As I said that to take away your ego you, in Marathi is called [' JODE PATTI'] beat 'it' with shoes. So daily in the morning Sahaj yogis move out in a line with shoes in their hands. O.k ! but if you have ego, then only Every one is going out with a shoe in his hand. All this karmakand penetrated into Sahajyoga too. So much so that from France a gentleman came from Vashi hospital and got this karmakand from there. It is for sick people. If you have this trouble, then you do this karmakand The karmakand of cancer are written in that. I said it is human being's nature to do karmakand because he thinks that he can do it because of my karmakand, work will be done and in this karmakand not only you in foreign country also many people go on doing karmakand of various types. For example will go to church once a year. means today after that they don't take even the name of God. after doing all the dirty jobs of world and go to Catholic [ DHARAM ] (officially, legally) and make confession If you can see this foolishness, then will be a Sahajyogi. If you can understand that this wrong act What we have done is wrong and now onwards this act is not to be done. If you can understand this your brain will retain it Now Karmakandis have got all the more qualities. One thing is that they are misers number one. If you talk to them about ten rupees they start jumping into the sky. That is called in Marathi, 'KODI CHUMBAK' (Stick, sticky) One thing is that in Marathi there are such words That your ego will dissolve easily. For example somebody talked high of himself, i did this, i did that tell him in a low voice 'You are climbing a chickpea tree'. A chickpea tree doesn't exist ! [Shri Mataji speaks in Marathi] So he cools down. I did this, i did that, i Till this 'I' ness doesn't go till then our recognising Christ is wrong. But it is surprising that what is called Christian Nations where there is chritianity more than them egoistic I have not seen particularly English. American everybody is so much egoistic that can't understand these desciples of Christ. Now what is the remedy of this ego? that should be thought It's remedy was Jesus Christ and He has taught that now love everybody love your enemies too. It's remedy He said was 'Love'. and apart from 'Love' there is no remedy. But this 'Love' is the 'Love' of Param Chaitanya. He said clearly,'Seek yourself'. knock the door and the door will open ! It doesn't mean that you go and knock the door. It means open the doors of your heart. A peson whose heart is small those who are misers that person can never be a Sahajyogi. And another thing which is very important if you get angry it means that you have too much ego. I have seen absolutely angry volatile people And they feel elated saying,'I am a very angry person'. Such people cannot be in Sahajyoga. Those who know to 'Love' and that too 'Pure Love' and that too such 'Love' where there is no expectation no desire those who completely know to love selflessly only they can be in Sahajyoga. Egoistic people do wrong acts. I am tired of them. They will start something on their own and they won't even tell me. and by doing so Today thousands of questions have risen Today it is worth saying that in Delhi once they on the day of some puja hurriedly told me that we are getting land only this much. How much did we charge ? How is that going to be ? How is the land ? Nothing ! And no Sahajyogi told me. Because if tomorrow somebody says, 'Mataji has said so' leave that person. If I have to say something, I will tell myself. After that we had so many meetings, I didn't say anything. Now those who have given them money are holding their heads that they have been cheated ! How to get back that money ? Without asking Me all the work Absolutely without asking Me. The land is so bad that they have received a notice that you cannot construct anything here. On the contrary you will be arrested Every Sahajyogi has right to tell Me and ask Me they made a society of their own and became mad that they are getting land It is such a bad land It is said that you cannot grow even a chicken Are the Sahajyogis even worst than chickens ? Now whatever has happened is foolishness ! and for that I am not responsible. But you ask for your money back. It is none of My resposibility. Jesus Christ had said that those people make houses live in houses they should watch birds he makes his own [GHARONDA] (addicted to her house, stuck to her house) with how much love they make a small one for their ownself and when they make their home they feel a great joy in constructing that home He explained it in every way that you give up attatchment. This is my house. This is my land. They are my children. Even this much that it is my country. This attatchment should be given up. Then only you can be great. In the whole world you are brothers and sisters. It doesn't mean that you give up devotion to your country. Not at all ! If you are not devoted to your country you can't do anything. Within you there should be devotion to country. But the same devotee to country becomes devoted to the world. If there is no devotion to one's country if there is no drop, how can there be a sea ? first of all whether there is devotion to country, is to be seen first of all. If you are working against your country you are not devoted to it. Jesus Christ had no need to go back. He had said also That there live such people Those who have the desire of only [MAL] (dirt) are [MALECH] (the person full of dirt) But Shalivahana told Him, 'No ! No, you go'. ' And teach them [NIRMAL TATTWA] the principle of purity. He went to teach them [NIRMAL TATTWAM] and they put an end to His life. It is mad people's country. He didn't need to learn anything. But had to teach something. That is why He went there. and for the same reason His end was this way. But 'Wiseness' and 'Forgiveness' 'Forgiveness' is the only mantra which can open Agnya chakra. If against anyone you have any ill feeling against anyone anger or if there is a tendency to be violent against anyone your Agnya cannot be up to the mark. Whatever you have to do you have to do with love. Even if you have to say something to anyone you have to say so that his life becomes 'NIRMAL'. It doesn't mean that you spoil your children. To children you have to perfectly discipline If you cannot discipline children your children can never be good Sahajyogis. And for that you must be yourself disciplined. If you are not disciplined yourself you cannot discipline your children. About Jesus Christ's life very little was written. But He was so disciplined In this way tolerated and from His life He showed He didn't need to be married He didn't marry It doesn't mean that He was against marriage. People have such wrong notions And that is why they have self made notions the women who are called 'NUNS' were married to Jesus Christ He was Sakhshat Ganesha ! How can anyone be married to Him ? Apart from that Men also no to marry such unnatural/ uncultural concepts were taught.............. With that everyone can be kept under control but one cannot become Christian. like such [KRITRIM (artificial) BANDHAN] to cover oneself today Chritian religion is losing its importance. They forgot Jesus ! and created a religion out of their own and call it Chritian religion. The Christian religion of today Looks like a blot on the name of Jesus ! Because I was born in this religion I saw the ins and outs of this religion. The same is the case with Hindu religion. In Hindu religion you cannot be communal at all. Because your various gurus, real gurus like Datatreya etc., and Nathpanthies are your many incarnations and your Sayambus are many. You don't have one book. You have number of books. Only Jesus and Bible They can be fundamentalists. And they can be Yahudis also And all the three are related to each other. It is written in books. But a Hindu can never be communal. Because some have some guru and others a different guru. Some adore Mahalaxmi. Others Renuka Devi. Some to Krishna. So, every person every family individually adore incarnation, books. As such there is no book which can be called as Holy Bible. So to all the religions a Hindu should pay respect. The capacity of paying respect is maximum in Hindus. Once we were in a hotel, there was a Bible. They keep a Bible [IN THE ROOM] whether somebody reads or not. That Bible fell on the floor. There was one Hindu with us. He picked up The Bible, put It on his head and then on the table. They will never touch The Bible with their feet. The Christians will do so. A Hindu will never do so. To respect everybody is Hindu's Dharma. But those who have come out of it are very very strange. Those who are our politicians such people have taken birth Asmushrooms come out in monsoon same way some people have come out. But they are not Hindus. They don't know anything about their [DHARMA] religion. North Indians don't know it at all. and those who are South Indians They know that bramhins have to be given money here and there have to do this and that [RITUALS]. In this Maharashtra there is nothing else than karmakand. They are so karmakandi. In Maharashtra I have worked very hard. Everything was waste. Because they are very ritualistic [KARMAKANDI]. They cannot give it up. Here is the temple of Siddhi Vinayak The Ganeshji that is there I have awakened that. Now what do I see that there one mile long long lines one mile long are standing on Tuesday. Gneshji too must have slept. The ritualistic people of this type are in Maharashtra. Because of that Karmakand their temprament has become hot. And in North India also I have seen that some people are Karmakandi. And those who are Karmakandi they have lot of anger, are hot tempered. And those who are not in Karmakand are very cool. So the first thing is Stop ritualism. But respect everything. Stopping ritualism doesn't mean to kick everything. This balancing was taught by Jesus Christ. Without this balance your Agnya Chakra cannot open. Everbody's respect and unnecessary ritualism in which wrong people are growing Now a day's false gurus They exist because of ritualism [KARMAKAND]. They will say you give so much money, do this do that. Do Havana 108 times daily read these names, those names giving you mantras doing this that These are Karmakandis and teach you Karmakand. Completely against which is Jesus Christ. Which He knew that by doing Karmakand a human being becomes egoistic. and to crack this ego To Karmakand He had forbidden tottaly. had forbidden totally. The same way, in the name of God anyone earning money was objectionable to Him. On the contrary reverse process started. Earn money and consume. They don't give up earning but [believe to] earn money and consume. It doesn't solve any problem. Today in Sahajyoga work We should remember how much money we paid for Sahajyoga work. How much money did we give? Jesus Christ had twelve fish killers. Even they spread in the whole world by working hard. Today you are so many disciples of mine. And if you want you can give realisation to so many people. Can introduce so many people to Sahajyoga. But the people should not be half baked. They should be deep. Unless they are deep, they cannot understand. And for that the greatest thing is that how much we love them. And how much love they give to others. Anyone who is a leader in Sahajyoga he should remember first of all that the teaching of Jesus Christ to love everybody Am i doing that ? I shower my anger over everyone. I keep everybody under control I express my anger with my eyes. This ego is very much not only against Sahajyoga but his destructor Whosoever is egoistic should lessen it and replace it with love Life will be a pleasure. Life will be beautiful ! If you don't know how to love then for a few days you come out of Sahajyoga. First you open the doors of your heart. With that only With its Shakti only Sahajyoga will spread. The question is that those who spread Sahajyoga they have the Shakti [Power] of love less and the Shakti of anger more. It will never spread. With love it will spread And with anger it will minimise and diminish. The teaching of Jesus is necessary for us to understand. Sorry I had to talk in Hindi language because most of the people here are Indians Some of them are Marathis and others are from North India. I was telling them about Christ. What was His power ? His power was of 'Love'. And not of anger Because He is the one who has crossed the most difficult center of Agnya. Those people who have ego never realise they have ego With their ego they do all kinds of nonsensical things. Without asking Me they have done something in Delhi. Without asking me they have done something in Russia. And it is so destructive to Sahajyoga. that they don't realise what they have done is the crime which is punishable by all Divine laws. If you want to do anything you must tell me beforehand. You must consult Me you must talk to Me Because I know what is happening. You don't know if somebody wants to cheat you. Then how will you know if you were so sensitive you would find out You would have asked Me, 'Mother what should we do ?' At least ask Me. This is the main thing missing among Sahajyogis now that we have a kind of a very subtle ego. If you make somebody a leader it is very dangerous sometimes if the leader developes ego because of his wife. It is a very difficult thing. They can destroy Sahajyoga completely. Anything is possible. So before you do anything like that you have to consult [Me]. I am still living and you can ask You can write to Me, you can telephone too. Atleast I am there to tell you but then you have to develop your balance and your love. [English Transcript] I'm sorry I had to talk in Hindi language because most of the people are, here, Indians. Some of them are Marathis and others are from the north of India. I was telling them about Christ, what was his power. His power was of love and not of anger, because he is the one who has crossed the most difficult centre of Agnya. Those people who have ego never realise they have ego. With their ego they do all kinds of nonsensical things. Without asking me they have done something in Delhi and without asking me they have done something in Russia. And it’s so destructive to Sahaja Yoga that they don’t realise what they have done is a crime which is punishable by all Divine laws! If you want to do anything you must tell me beforehand, you must consult me, you must talk to me because I know what is happening. You don’t know if somebody wants to cheat you, then how will you know? If you were so sensitive you would find out. You would have asked me, “Mother what should we do?” At least ask me. This is the main thing missing among Sahaja yogis now, that we have a kind of a very subtle ego. If you make somebody a leader it’s very dangerous sometimes if the leader develops ego because of his wife. It’s a very difficult thing. They can destroy Sahaja Yoga completely. Anything is possible. So before you do anything like that you have to consult. I am still living and you can ask me. You can write to me, you can telephone to me. At least I am there to tell you. But then you have to develop your balance and your love. That is only through this Paramachaitanya. With this All-pervading Power of Divine love, you can develop that discretion, you can develop those special powers. Even if somebody telephones to me, immediately I know what’s wrong with the person. I don’t say that you can become like me but at least you have vibrations, to see. Also see your own vibrations, how are you moving. Put a paper on your hand and you’ll see, it will start shaking before my photograph. With this ego you cannot go further. Why did you come to Sahaja Yoga? You came here not to become some sort of a leader or some sort of a king but you came here to become a great Guru, as you asked me, “Gurupada dijiye.” For that you have to have, in Sahaja Yoga, a complete humility, natural humility, natural balance. This is what Christ has taught us. At that time I don’t think people had that much ego. Ego is a modern ‘present’ to you. People get ego out of anything. For example, I met one lady once and found her ego very bad, I said “What’s the matter with her?“ So I asked my daughters, “What does she do?” they said, “Mummy, she knows how to make dolls.” For that she had ego. What is so great than to be a good Sahaja yogi? You may be the king, you may be anything. Now you see the prime ministers, and all of them, going to jail. What have they compared to you? They have no balance, they have no sense. What makes you as separate individuals, higher people? [It’s] because you have no ego. Now people try to remove their ego, there’s two types: so they will go on beating themselves with shoes. All kinds of ritualistic things they do to remove their ego. But all this you do with your mind! Whatever you do with your mind will give you ego only. They become ascetic, they are the greatest egoists I must say. Hitler was the greatest ascetic, with his asceticism he became Hitler. If you want to become Hitler you become ascetic. In Sahaja Yoga you are not allowed, at all, all this asceticism. You have to be loving, affectionate, kind and disciplined. I must say this because when you are loving you go out of bounds sometimes because you have no discipline of Sahaja Yoga. ‘Loving’ doesn’t mean that you become like a Romeo and Juliet, it doesn’t mean that. You must have your balance through your discipline. If you have no discipline you can never be a good Sahaja Yogi. From the life of Christ we have to learn these things, that, unless and until we have these things we cannot become good Sahaja yogis. Firstly ritualistic nature, secondly anger, thirdly miserliness. Like if you go to England it’s written there, “Save pounds by taking a taxi.” This is what it is: miserliness, where can we save money. “Mother, can you give concession?” It’s not some sort of a business I am doing here. “If you make it half price so many will come.” I am not using your money. I am using it for your buildings. All this I’ve got it (land and buildings of Ganapatipule). Of course my money also and your money. So many things I have done, the whole of Vashi, the whole of ashrams, in Delhi two ashrams, then the whole of school, and also land in Poona and other places. Now in Poona they want me to pay the land, to pay for everything, and Poona people are the, known Maharastrians to be great miserly, kunjush people. Even for their own ashram they would like me to pay, for everything! And then nicely go and sing bhajans. You see, they are good musicians that’s what they are. But very, very miserly people. Miserly people can never love; they love money. Egotistical people can never love because they love power: to control others. They think they are doing it for Sahaja Yoga, but [they are] not. Unless and until you do something for yourself and your ego, no use working for Sahaja Yoga. Look at the Christ, he took birth in a very humble abode. But he was The King. And he lived with the poor and tried to save them. He saved the lepers, he saved so many people, there were twenty-one people were cured by him. Now [with] Sahaja Yoga I don’t know how many thousands have been cured. But what is important is, if you are curing, know that you are not curing. It is the Divine Power that is curing. You are not doing anything. It’s best to be like that. I feel the same way, I’m doing nothing and I’m Nishkriya, doing nothing. But I’m not lazy. You should be active but all your activity should come from the Divine Power of love. First of all you must extend your hands for love. You extend your heart, extend your money, house, everything for love. Now if your wife doesn’t allow others to come in the house throw her out of the house, I don’t mind. Teach her how to be kind and generous. The other way round for the husband. Its very important, you have to be generous, you have to be kind and you have to be loving and sweet to others. Christ only once went into temper, which he had a right to do that, when he saw people selling things in the temple. Same thing we have here (market stalls outside the gate of the Sahaja Yoga land in Ganapatipule). And if you don’t go and buy anything from them, they’ll be lost. But you only go and buy things from them because you have a habit of shopping . Anywhere people go they must shop, it’s a habit. Shopping they must do. They will not see the greenery, the beauty of nature, nothing. When I went to so many countries with my husband, I had to go and see beautiful places like museums. I never used to shop. But when I have so many children, then I have to shop, so I would go for shops. But not the way that every place is for shopping. What is there to shop here when you have come here for your spiritual growth? In Mecca do they have any shops? This is the holier than holy. Why should you go to these shops, I can’t understand. I have told them not to have shops but you people are the ones who encourage. Who encouraged them to make money out of us? Nothing essential to buy there. Now you have come to the holy occasion. Here you have come for your worship. In our Mahalakshmi temple, there are people who are selling garlands and things for the ladies hair, but they say it is for the goddess and they buy there, all the people who are coming, stupidly, and give it to the Brahmin in the temple and the Brahmin sells it back at a lower price; and his garlands are, I don’t know how many times, sold and bought and sold and bought because of the stupidity of the people who go there. If they have to take something they should buy from outside not at the place where you have come. As it is you went to Delhi, you could have bought there, or you came to Bombay, you could have bought there. But not in this place, we cannot make this place Bombay or Delhi. Otherwise why should we come here? That’s why Christ took a hunter and beat them, those who were selling things near the church. Now they don’t have. I have seen, near the church they don’t have. They have outside. But they sell other things. Like Catholic Church sells a wine called ‘Benedictine’, imagine. That’s another story. Christ went for a wedding and they had no wine, now in the Hebrew language ‘wine' means the juice of the grapes, it doesn’t mean fermented. So he converted water into that wine. You cannot convert water instantaneously into wine; wine has to rot, has to smell, the more it smells the best it is. But they think that Christ said you must drink! He never said that, he just converted it into wine meaning the taste of the juice of grapes. Once I went to some television and there was a very nice man, in Italy. He said “Mother you first give me realisation”. So I said, “Get some water!” I put my hand into it. “Now you drink it,” He said, “It is tasting like wine,” I said, “This is what Christ did.” He got his realisation. Instantaneously you cannot make wine. But if somebody dies, they will drink, if somebody is born, they will drink. At any cost, without drinking, they are not normal. But the people who got realisation are suddenly changed. They don’t want to drink, they have stopped drinking, their attention has become nice. It’s the whole thing is changed. This is the transformation that has worked: of which Christ has talked, Mohammed Sahib has talked. Everybody has talked about this particular time when people will get transformed. But even after transformation you do not want to become what you have to be - for which you have come here. You will be left behind. There’s a big transformation is taking place! In that transformation, also, your rising is taking place. There’s a big evolution going on and those who will not evolve properly will be left behind. As it is said that: this is the last judgement. And you will be judged. You will be left behind. You cannot adhere to people who are rising higher. With your weight you’ll fall down. So, for you to understand Christ: it’s all his qualities you must have. If you are hot tempered, alright go and beat yourself with shoes, but if you are not then you need not. You must know what you are. First of all introspect. Accordingly you should work it out. But this ritualism is not allowed in Sahaja Yoga all the time. I would love all my children to be extremely loving and collective. Not to denounce anybody for no rhyme and reason. And if you have to denounce you should tell me. I know what is what. Without asking me you should not measure up somebody and say, “I’ve measured somebody.” With what? What is your yardstick? You, yourself, are caught up in the web of ego. You cannot condemn anyone without telling me. You have to tell me. Don’t worry that this will disturb me or anything, but you should ask me. I know about everyone, maybe I have not met that person, but I can feel the vibrations. You can write to me. Many people just telephone - that’s not the way! You must write to me because I read each and every letter. But all nonsensical letters you should not write also to waste my time, like, “My father’s, mother’s, mother’s, this thing is sick or is dead and her bhoot is moving about.” All sorts of funny letters come to me. What can I do for such people? That’s not important. Or, “I need money, I have no money and I’m depending on you for money so please send me money.” (laughter) You can ask on my photograph. If you are a good Sahaja Yogi you don’t have to worry about money also. Or, “I have no child Mother, what to do? I want to have a child.” Those who have a child, ask them what do they have to say!! So many have got children after coming to Sahaja Yoga but you must deserve it. So many miracles have taken place, so many people have been cured, no doubt. But that doesn’t mean you have done it. Don’t get into the trap of ego. That’s most dangerous. If you destroy Sahaja Yoga, you are destroying yourself. So, today, you all have to promise in your heart . Put your hands to your heart and to say now, “Mother we’ll love. We’ll spread your Divine love, encompass the whole world. Give realisation to all the people. We’ll not shout. We’ll not be angry. We’ll not do all kinds of rituals. But just surrender, surrender our ego to you.” Surrender it, surrender your ego: all your problems can be solved. Because as long as there is ego this Divine power doesn’t take over. You may do anything, you are not connected, your connection is missing, Christ is missing, he is no more there. To establish him first of all you must show how you love, but that doesn’t mean that you love your wife, love your children and love your house! You have to love everyone. Try to make everyone happy. That’s why I like music because through music you can spread vibrations. It’s a very good media of spreading vibrations, of loving vibrations. But those who are musicians have to be loving people, not hot-tempered, not showing off, not thinking too much of themselves. All this will work very well if we understand that this Divine Power is so powerful, and, no doubt it is love, no doubt it is truth or no doubt, if you get out of it you’ll be caught up by anything and you could be finished. It is a very, very powerful, effective, and absolutely conclusive power you have within yourself. And thanks to Christ that crucified himself, sacrificed his body for our sake, that our Agnya is opened, otherwise I could not have done this Sahaja Yoga. But in this area we have Buddha, Christ and Mahavira, and they had to do tapasya, tapaha. They did it. You don’t have to do now, they have done for you. Now, see, I saw the musicians yesterday, in two, three months they have learned so much. Otherwise, formerly, all the musicians I knew for Indian music had to really starve for months together, they had to practise for years together [and] they had to bow to their guru. That’s all over now because of this Paramachaitanya and your power to be one with the Divine. This Divine power can transform you completely to such an extent that anything that you want to do you can do it in two, three months. In Pune when they were singing once, foreigners, as we call them, with respect. In India ‘foreigners’ means respect, not like other countries. So they were singing [and] there were some very great musicians who had come and they told me, “Mother, we put down our head to them because how could these people, who don’t know a word about Indian music, have learnt it so well?”. “And the pronunciation of this Marathi language is very difficult but they are so good at it, it’s very surprising.” Now all this has happened in your presence, in your presence. It’s nice you have balloons here to celebrate Christ’s birthday and all these balloons in your heads, of ego, should be burst, should be finished. And I’ll be happy if you could learn Hindi language. I know English maybe not so good but best is to learn Hindi, if possible, because there are already fourteen languages in India and so many languages in other countries. Every country has a different type of English language. If you go to America I don’t understand their English for at least two or three days because they go on taking their tongue and their lips on one side and then on another side. English, and the French is another point. So best is to learn Hindi, and that too, a good Hindi, not Sanskritised (sic), but as they say “Roz-marrah ke” - day-to-day Hindi, because I feel better if you all understand what I am saying. It’s not difficult because you are all Sahaja yogis, you can learn Hindi in no time. I’m not saying learn Sanskrit! But Hindi is very easy. It’s not my mother tongue. I have never studied Hindi language, never. But it’s a very easy language to learn. But, as my Father told me, “Never teach Hindi language to an Englishman.” I said, “Why this advice?“ He said, “There was an Englishman who was after me that I should teach him Hindi.” So he said, “I have to tell my servant to open the door or to close the door. So to open the door he said you say, “There was a cold day” - means “darwaza khol de,” And for closing the door, you have to say, “There was a banker, ” “darwaza band karo.” But now it’s different. They’ll pick up Hindi very quickly, very quickly; I can see that. If they can learn this horrible Indian classical music, which is so difficult, so easily that will happen. They can learn Hindi in no time and make me happier with that, not because Hindi is my language, it’s not, it’s Marathi. But Marathi [is] very difficult. I don’t think you can learn Marathi. It’s very precise. I think that it’s one of the best languages to put down your ego. That’s why Maharashtrians are normally not egotistical because in their language there is built in process. For example, somebody is boasting, that, “I have done this, I have done that.” So in Marathi they will say, “Don’t climb on a bush or the tree of chana,” which is so big as that (very small bush). Then the person is finished! Like that there are many words by which you can put down the ego of the man on his face. So Marathi language has so many advantages. But I would not ask you to learn Marathi language, it’s not so easy. But Hindi you should, it is very easy, very easy. But you must know one thing, that in Hindi language there is adab. Adab means modesty and… Babamama: respect, respect. Shri Mataji: Respect, but more than respect it is. A style of saying things. Not Urdu, but Hindi of day to day talking, there is respect and a way to address others. All this will give you a kind of a more flexible vehicle to express your love. Because in Hindi language we can never translate, “I hate you,” we never say like that, “I hate you.” They cannot say because to hate somebody is sinful. So they can never say, “I hate you.” Chastity is more in Marathi language but it’s a little hard because it has got such, as I told you, idioms which can correct you, just there. All this is just to request you now, if you can learn this music, which is very difficult, you can always learn a simple Hindi language which is very, very easy and very, very easy to talk. There are so many things I would like you to know about Christ, but this is a short time in which I cannot tell you, the way he had his own priorities. Though in the Bible he’s not described fully, I should say, and whatever it might have been they have reduced it, maybe. And the way they practice Christianity also is shocking. So one has to learn Christianity through the heart, [there’s] no other way out. They should learn through the heart, heart of your Mother. May God bless you all. Normally after my lecture I give realisation to people - but you all have got it already. You can just put your hands and see for yourself if you have the cool breeze or not. And face yourself. If there is something wrong you must get it corrected. Better, better. Ta puja kara! (marathi: So let’s do the puja). Good!

Christmas Puja. Ganapatipule (India), 25 December 1997. Christmas Puja,Ganapatipule (India), 25.01.1997 [Translated from Hindi] Today, we are here to celebrate the birthday of Shri Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ's life was very short and He spent most of His time in India, in Kashmir. He went back just for last three years and people fixed Him to a cross. It was somewhat destined. To open Agnya chakra He had to offer this sacrifice. So in this way He set up Agnya chakra. Agnya chakra is very constricted small and not easily openable because a human being got freedom that made him egoistic. This ego constricted his Agnya chakra. And from that constricted Agnya chakra it was necessary to take out ego And to take out ego you have to control your [MAAN - Mind]. But you do not take out your ego from your [MAAN] As soon as you will try to take out your ego from your [MAAN] the [MAAN] will go on increasing and the ego will go on increasing [ AHAAM KAROTI SAHA AHAMKAR ] We do ! It means that if we try to minimise our ego the ego will shoot up because we will try to do so with the help of ego only. Those who think that to our ego will suppress will eat less food worldwide violence one standing on one foot and some on their head Every type of experiment people do to destroy their ego But it does not supress the ego. It shoots up. To fast, to do [JAP TAP- ritüel] everything shoots up ego ! Havana also gives rise to ego ! Because Agni is right sided. Whatever karmakand we do, rituals we perform gives rise to our ego. For the past thousands of years human beings have been doing the same type of karmakand. Everything inside out whatever has been taught, is he doing. This is why Sahajyoga is against karmakand. There is no need to do any karmakand. And to go to the extremes is all the more bad. As I said that to take away your ego you, in Marathi is called [' JODE PATTI'] beat 'it' with shoes. So daily in the morning Sahaj yogis move out in a line with shoes in their hands. O.k ! but if you have ego, then only Every one is going out with a shoe in his hand. All this karmakand penetrated into Sahajyoga too. So much so that from France a gentleman came from Vashi hospital and got this karmakand from there. It is for sick people. If you have this trouble, then you do this karmakand The karmakand of cancer are written in that. I said it is human being's nature to do karmakand because he thinks that he can do it because of my karmakand, work will be done and in this karmakand not only you in foreign country also many people go on doing karmakand of various types. For example will go to church once a year. means today after that they don't take even the name of God. after doing all the dirty jobs of world and go to Catholic [ DHARAM ] (officially, legally) and make confession If you can see this foolishness, then will be a Sahajyogi. If you can understand that this wrong act What we have done is wrong and now onwards this act is not to be done. If you can understand this your brain will retain it Now Karmakandis have got all the more qualities. One thing is that they are misers number one. If you talk to them about ten rupees they start jumping into the sky. That is called in Marathi, 'KODI CHUMBAK' (Stick, sticky) One thing is that in Marathi there are such words That your ego will dissolve easily. For example somebody talked high of himself, i did this, i did that tell him in a low voice 'You are climbing a chickpea tree'. A chickpea tree doesn't exist ! [Shri Mataji speaks in Marathi] So he cools down. I did this, i did that, i Till this 'I' ness doesn't go till then our recognising Christ is wrong. But it is surprising that what is called Christian Nations where there is chritianity more than them egoistic I have not seen particularly English. American everybody is so much egoistic that can't understand these desciples of Christ. Now what is the remedy of this ego? that should be thought It's remedy was Jesus Christ and He has taught that now love everybody love your enemies too. It's remedy He said was 'Love'. and apart from 'Love' there is no remedy. But this 'Love' is the 'Love' of Param Chaitanya. He said clearly,'Seek yourself'. knock the door and the door will open ! It doesn't mean that you go and knock the door. It means open the doors of your heart. A peson whose heart is small those who are misers that person can never be a Sahajyogi. And another thing which is very important if you get angry it means that you have too much ego. I have seen absolutely angry volatile people And they feel elated saying,'I am a very angry person'. Such people cannot be in Sahajyoga. Those who know to 'Love' and that too 'Pure Love' and that too such 'Love' where there is no expectation no desire those who completely know to love selflessly only they can be in Sahajyoga. Egoistic people do wrong acts. I am tired of them. They will start something on their own and they won't even tell me. and by doing so Today thousands of questions have risen Today it is worth saying that in Delhi once they on the day of some puja hurriedly told me that we are getting land only this much. How much did we charge ? How is that going to be ? How is the land ? Nothing ! And no Sahajyogi told me. Because if tomorrow somebody says, 'Mataji has said so' leave that person. If I have to say something, I will tell myself. After that we had so many meetings, I didn't say anything. Now those who have given them money are holding their heads that they have been cheated ! How to get back that money ? Without asking Me all the work Absolutely without asking Me. The land is so bad that they have received a notice that you cannot construct anything here. On the contrary you will be arrested Every Sahajyogi has right to tell Me and ask Me they made a society of their own and became mad that they are getting land It is such a bad land It is said that you cannot grow even a chicken Are the Sahajyogis even worst than chickens ? Now whatever has happened is foolishness ! and for that I am not responsible. But you ask for your money back. It is none of My resposibility. Jesus Christ had said that those people make houses live in houses they should watch birds he makes his own [GHARONDA] (addicted to her house, stuck to her house) with how much love they make a small one for their ownself and when they make their home they feel a great joy in constructing that home He explained it in every way that you give up attatchment. This is my house. This is my land. They are my children. Even this much that it is my country. This attatchment should be given up. Then only you can be great. In the whole world you are brothers and sisters. It doesn't mean that you give up devotion to your country. Not at all ! If you are not devoted to your country you can't do anything. Within you there should be devotion to country. But the same devotee to country becomes devoted to the world. If there is no devotion to one's country if there is no drop, how can there be a sea ? first of all whether there is devotion to country, is to be seen first of all. If you are working against your country you are not devoted to it. Jesus Christ had no need to go back. He had said also That there live such people Those who have the desire of only [MAL] (dirt) are [MALECH] (the person full of dirt) But Shalivahana told Him, 'No ! No, you go'. ' And teach them [NIRMAL TATTWA] the principle of purity. He went to teach them [NIRMAL TATTWAM] and they put an end to His life. It is mad people's country. He didn't need to learn anything. But had to teach something. That is why He went there. and for the same reason His end was this way. But 'Wiseness' and 'Forgiveness' 'Forgiveness' is the only mantra which can open Agnya chakra. If against anyone you have any ill feeling against anyone anger or if there is a tendency to be violent against anyone your Agnya cannot be up to the mark. Whatever you have to do you have to do with love. Even if you have to say something to anyone you have to say so that his life becomes 'NIRMAL'. It doesn't mean that you spoil your children. To children you have to perfectly discipline If you cannot discipline children your children can never be good Sahajyogis. And for that you must be yourself disciplined. If you are not disciplined yourself you cannot discipline your children. About Jesus Christ's life very little was written. But He was so disciplined In this way tolerated and from His life He showed He didn't need to be married He didn't marry It doesn't mean that He was against marriage. People have such wrong notions And that is why they have self made notions the women who are called 'NUNS' were married to Jesus Christ He was Sakhshat Ganesha ! How can anyone be married to Him ? Apart from that Men also no to marry such unnatural/ uncultural concepts were taught.............. With that everyone can be kept under control but one cannot become Christian. like such [KRITRIM (artificial) BANDHAN] to cover oneself today Chritian religion is losing its importance. They forgot Jesus ! and created a religion out of their own and call it Chritian religion. The Christian religion of today Looks like a blot on the name of Jesus ! Because I was born in this religion I saw the ins and outs of this religion. The same is the case with Hindu religion. In Hindu religion you cannot be communal at all. Because your various gurus, real gurus like Datatreya etc., and Nathpanthies are your many incarnations and your Sayambus are many. You don't have one book. You have number of books. Only Jesus and Bible They can be fundamentalists. And they can be Yahudis also And all the three are related to each other. It is written in books. But a Hindu can never be communal. Because some have some guru and others a different guru. Some adore Mahalaxmi. Others Renuka Devi. Some to Krishna. So, every person every family individually adore incarnation, books. As such there is no book which can be called as Holy Bible. So to all the religions a Hindu should pay respect. The capacity of paying respect is maximum in Hindus. Once we were in a hotel, there was a Bible. They keep a Bible [IN THE ROOM] whether somebody reads or not. That Bible fell on the floor. There was one Hindu with us. He picked up The Bible, put It on his head and then on the table. They will never touch The Bible with their feet. The Christians will do so. A Hindu will never do so. To respect everybody is Hindu's Dharma. But those who have come out of it are very very strange. Those who are our politicians such people have taken birth Asmushrooms come out in monsoon same way some people have come out. But they are not Hindus. They don't know anything about their [DHARMA] religion. North Indians don't know it at all. and those who are South Indians They know that bramhins have to be given money here and there have to do this and that [RITUALS]. In this Maharashtra there is nothing else than karmakand. They are so karmakandi. In Maharashtra I have worked very hard. Everything was waste. Because they are very ritualistic [KARMAKANDI]. They cannot give it up. Here is the temple of Siddhi Vinayak The Ganeshji that is there I have awakened that. Now what do I see that there one mile long long lines one mile long are standing on Tuesday. Gneshji too must have slept. The ritualistic people of this type are in Maharashtra. Because of that Karmakand their temprament has become hot. And in North India also I have seen that some people are Karmakandi. And those who are Karmakandi they have lot of anger, are hot tempered. And those who are not in Karmakand are very cool. So the first thing is Stop ritualism. But respect everything. Stopping ritualism doesn't mean to kick everything. This balancing was taught by Jesus Christ. Without this balance your Agnya Chakra cannot open. Everbody's respect and unnecessary ritualism in which wrong people are growing Now a day's false gurus They exist because of ritualism [KARMAKAND]. They will say you give so much money, do this do that. Do Havana 108 times daily read these names, those names giving you mantras doing this that These are Karmakandis and teach you Karmakand. Completely against which is Jesus Christ. Which He knew that by doing Karmakand a human being becomes egoistic. and to crack this ego To Karmakand He had forbidden tottaly. had forbidden totally. The same way, in the name of God anyone earning money was objectionable to Him. On the contrary reverse process started. Earn money and consume. They don't give up earning but [believe to] earn money and consume. It doesn't solve any problem. Today in Sahajyoga work We should remember how much money we paid for Sahajyoga work. How much money did we give? Jesus Christ had twelve fish killers. Even they spread in the whole world by working hard. Today you are so many disciples of mine. And if you want you can give realisation to so many people. Can introduce so many people to Sahajyoga. But the people should not be half baked. They should be deep. Unless they are deep, they cannot understand. And for that the greatest thing is that how much we love them. And how much love they give to others. Anyone who is a leader in Sahajyoga he should remember first of all that the teaching of Jesus Christ to love everybody Am i doing that ? I shower my anger over everyone. I keep everybody under control I express my anger with my eyes. This ego is very much not only against Sahajyoga but his destructor Whosoever is egoistic should lessen it and replace it with love Life will be a pleasure. Life will be beautiful ! If you don't know how to love then for a few days you come out of Sahajyoga. First you open the doors of your heart. With that only With its Shakti only Sahajyoga will spread. The question is that those who spread Sahajyoga they have the Shakti [Power] of love less and the Shakti of anger more. It will never spread. With love it will spread And with anger it will minimise and diminish. The teaching of Jesus is necessary for us to understand. Sorry I had to talk in Hindi language because most of the people here are Indians Some of them are Marathis and others are from North India. I was telling them about Christ. What was His power ? His power was of 'Love'. And not of anger Because He is the one who has crossed the most difficult center of Agnya. Those people who have ego never realise they have ego With their ego they do all kinds of nonsensical things. Without asking Me they have done something in Delhi. Without asking me they have done something in Russia. And it is so destructive to Sahajyoga. that they don't realise what they have done is the crime which is punishable by all Divine laws. If you want to do anything you must tell me beforehand. You must consult Me you must talk to Me Because I know what is happening. You don't know if somebody wants to cheat you. Then how will you know if you were so sensitive you would find out You would have asked Me, 'Mother what should we do ?' At least ask Me. This is the main thing missing among Sahajyogis now that we have a kind of a very subtle ego. If you make somebody a leader it is very dangerous sometimes if the leader developes ego because of his wife. It is a very difficult thing. They can destroy Sahajyoga completely. Anything is possible. So before you do anything like that you have to consult [Me]. I am still living and you can ask You can write to Me, you can telephone too. Atleast I am there to tell you but then you have to develop your balance and your love. [English Transcript] I'm sorry I had to talk in Hindi language because most of the people are, here, Indians. Some of them are Marathis and others are from the north of India. I was telling them about Christ, what was his power. His power was of love and not of anger, because he is the one who has crossed the most difficult centre of Agnya. Those people who have ego never realise they have ego. With their ego they do all kinds of nonsensical things. Without asking me they have done something in Delhi and without asking me they have done something in Russia. And it’s so destructive to Sahaja Yoga that they don’t realise what they have done is a crime which is punishable by all Divine laws! If you want to do anything you must tell me beforehand, you must consult me, you must talk to me because I know what is happening. You don’t know if somebody wants to cheat you, then how will you know? If you were so sensitive you would find out. You would have asked me, “Mother what should we do?” At least ask me. This is the main thing missing among Sahaja yogis now, that we have a kind of a very subtle ego. If you make somebody a leader it’s very dangerous sometimes if the leader develops ego because of his wife. It’s a very difficult thing. They can destroy Sahaja Yoga completely. Anything is possible. So before you do anything like that you have to consult. I am still living and you can ask me. You can write to me, you can telephone to me. At least I am there to tell you. But then you have to develop your balance and your love. That is only through this Paramachaitanya. With this All-pervading Power of Divine love, you can develop that discretion, you can develop those special powers. Even if somebody telephones to me, immediately I know what’s wrong with the person. I don’t say that you can become like me but at least you have vibrations, to see. Also see your own vibrations, how are you moving. Put a paper on your hand and you’ll see, it will start shaking before my photograph. With this ego you cannot go further. Why did you come to Sahaja Yoga? You came here not to become some sort of a leader or some sort of a king but you came here to become a great Guru, as you asked me, “Gurupada dijiye.” For that you have to have, in Sahaja Yoga, a complete humility, natural humility, natural balance. This is what Christ has taught us. At that time I don’t think people had that much ego. Ego is a modern ‘present’ to you. People get ego out of anything. For example, I met one lady once and found her ego very bad, I said “What’s the matter with her?“ So I asked my daughters, “What does she do?” they said, “Mummy, she knows how to make dolls.” For that she had ego. What is so great than to be a good Sahaja yogi? You may be the king, you may be anything. Now you see the prime ministers, and all of them, going to jail. What have they compared to you? They have no balance, they have no sense. What makes you as separate individuals, higher people? [It’s] because you have no ego. Now people try to remove their ego, there’s two types: so they will go on beating themselves with shoes. All kinds of ritualistic things they do to remove their ego. But all this you do with your mind! Whatever you do with your mind will give you ego only. They become ascetic, they are the greatest egoists I must say. Hitler was the greatest ascetic, with his asceticism he became Hitler. If you want to become Hitler you become ascetic. In Sahaja Yoga you are not allowed, at all, all this asceticism. You have to be loving, affectionate, kind and disciplined. I must say this because when you are loving you go out of bounds sometimes because you have no discipline of Sahaja Yoga. ‘Loving’ doesn’t mean that you become like a Romeo and Juliet, it doesn’t mean that. You must have your balance through your discipline. If you have no discipline you can never be a good Sahaja Yogi. From the life of Christ we have to learn these things, that, unless and until we have these things we cannot become good Sahaja yogis. Firstly ritualistic nature, secondly anger, thirdly miserliness. Like if you go to England it’s written there, “Save pounds by taking a taxi.” This is what it is: miserliness, where can we save money. “Mother, can you give concession?” It’s not some sort of a business I am doing here. “If you make it half price so many will come.” I am not using your money. I am using it for your buildings. All this I’ve got it (land and buildings of Ganapatipule). Of course my money also and your money. So many things I have done, the whole of Vashi, the whole of ashrams, in Delhi two ashrams, then the whole of school, and also land in Poona and other places. Now in Poona they want me to pay the land, to pay for everything, and Poona people are the, known Maharastrians to be great miserly, kunjush people. Even for their own ashram they would like me to pay, for everything! And then nicely go and sing bhajans. You see, they are good musicians that’s what they are. But very, very miserly people. Miserly people can never love; they love money. Egotistical people can never love because they love power: to control others. They think they are doing it for Sahaja Yoga, but [they are] not. Unless and until you do something for yourself and your ego, no use working for Sahaja Yoga. Look at the Christ, he took birth in a very humble abode. But he was The King. And he lived with the poor and tried to save them. He saved the lepers, he saved so many people, there were twenty-one people were cured by him. Now [with] Sahaja Yoga I don’t know how many thousands have been cured. But what is important is, if you are curing, know that you are not curing. It is the Divine Power that is curing. You are not doing anything. It’s best to be like that. I feel the same way, I’m doing nothing and I’m Nishkriya, doing nothing. But I’m not lazy. You should be active but all your activity should come from the Divine Power of love. First of all you must extend your hands for love. You extend your heart, extend your money, house, everything for love. Now if your wife doesn’t allow others to come in the house throw her out of the house, I don’t mind. Teach her how to be kind and generous. The other way round for the husband. Its very important, you have to be generous, you have to be kind and you have to be loving and sweet to others. Christ only once went into temper, which he had a right to do that, when he saw people selling things in the temple. Same thing we have here (market stalls outside the gate of the Sahaja Yoga land in Ganapatipule). And if you don’t go and buy anything from them, they’ll be lost. But you only go and buy things from them because you have a habit of shopping . Anywhere people go they must shop, it’s a habit. Shopping they must do. They will not see the greenery, the beauty of nature, nothing. When I went to so many countries with my husband, I had to go and see beautiful places like museums. I never used to shop. But when I have so many children, then I have to shop, so I would go for shops. But not the way that every place is for shopping. What is there to shop here when you have come here for your spiritual growth? In Mecca do they have any shops? This is the holier than holy. Why should you go to these shops, I can’t understand. I have told them not to have shops but you people are the ones who encourage. Who encouraged them to make money out of us? Nothing essential to buy there. Now you have come to the holy occasion. Here you have come for your worship. In our Mahalakshmi temple, there are people who are selling garlands and things for the ladies hair, but they say it is for the goddess and they buy there, all the people who are coming, stupidly, and give it to the Brahmin in the temple and the Brahmin sells it back at a lower price; and his garlands are, I don’t know how many times, sold and bought and sold and bought because of the stupidity of the people who go there. If they have to take something they should buy from outside not at the place where you have come. As it is you went to Delhi, you could have bought there, or you came to Bombay, you could have bought there. But not in this place, we cannot make this place Bombay or Delhi. Otherwise why should we come here? That’s why Christ took a hunter and beat them, those who were selling things near the church. Now they don’t have. I have seen, near the church they don’t have. They have outside. But they sell other things. Like Catholic Church sells a wine called ‘Benedictine’, imagine. That’s another story. Christ went for a wedding and they had no wine, now in the Hebrew language ‘wine' means the juice of the grapes, it doesn’t mean fermented. So he converted water into that wine. You cannot convert water instantaneously into wine; wine has to rot, has to smell, the more it smells the best it is. But they think that Christ said you must drink! He never said that, he just converted it into wine meaning the taste of the juice of grapes. Once I went to some television and there was a very nice man, in Italy. He said “Mother you first give me realisation”. So I said, “Get some water!” I put my hand into it. “Now you drink it,” He said, “It is tasting like wine,” I said, “This is what Christ did.” He got his realisation. Instantaneously you cannot make wine. But if somebody dies, they will drink, if somebody is born, they will drink. At any cost, without drinking, they are not normal. But the people who got realisation are suddenly changed. They don’t want to drink, they have stopped drinking, their attention has become nice. It’s the whole thing is changed. This is the transformation that has worked: of which Christ has talked, Mohammed Sahib has talked. Everybody has talked about this particular time when people will get transformed. But even after transformation you do not want to become what you have to be - for which you have come here. You will be left behind. There’s a big transformation is taking place! In that transformation, also, your rising is taking place. There’s a big evolution going on and those who will not evolve properly will be left behind. As it is said that: this is the last judgement. And you will be judged. You will be left behind. You cannot adhere to people who are rising higher. With your weight you’ll fall down. So, for you to understand Christ: it’s all his qualities you must have. If you are hot tempered, alright go and beat yourself with shoes, but if you are not then you need not. You must know what you are. First of all introspect. Accordingly you should work it out. But this ritualism is not allowed in Sahaja Yoga all the time. I would love all my children to be extremely loving and collective. Not to denounce anybody for no rhyme and reason. And if you have to denounce you should tell me. I know what is what. Without asking me you should not measure up somebody and say, “I’ve measured somebody.” With what? What is your yardstick? You, yourself, are caught up in the web of ego. You cannot condemn anyone without telling me. You have to tell me. Don’t worry that this will disturb me or anything, but you should ask me. I know about everyone, maybe I have not met that person, but I can feel the vibrations. You can write to me. Many people just telephone - that’s not the way! You must write to me because I read each and every letter. But all nonsensical letters you should not write also to waste my time, like, “My father’s, mother’s, mother’s, this thing is sick or is dead and her bhoot is moving about.” All sorts of funny letters come to me. What can I do for such people? That’s not important. Or, “I need money, I have no money and I’m depending on you for money so please send me money.” (laughter) You can ask on my photograph. If you are a good Sahaja Yogi you don’t have to worry about money also. Or, “I have no child Mother, what to do? I want to have a child.” Those who have a child, ask them what do they have to say!! So many have got children after coming to Sahaja Yoga but you must deserve it. So many miracles have taken place, so many people have been cured, no doubt. But that doesn’t mean you have done it. Don’t get into the trap of ego. That’s most dangerous. If you destroy Sahaja Yoga, you are destroying yourself. So, today, you all have to promise in your heart . Put your hands to your heart and to say now, “Mother we’ll love. We’ll spread your Divine love, encompass the whole world. Give realisation to all the people. We’ll not shout. We’ll not be angry. We’ll not do all kinds of rituals. But just surrender, surrender our ego to you.” Surrender it, surrender your ego: all your problems can be solved. Because as long as there is ego this Divine power doesn’t take over. You may do anything, you are not connected, your connection is missing, Christ is missing, he is no more there. To establish him first of all you must show how you love, but that doesn’t mean that you love your wife, love your children and love your house! You have to love everyone. Try to make everyone happy. That’s why I like music because through music you can spread vibrations. It’s a very good media of spreading vibrations, of loving vibrations. But those who are musicians have to be loving people, not hot-tempered, not showing off, not thinking too much of themselves. All this will work very well if we understand that this Divine Power is so powerful, and, no doubt it is love, no doubt it is truth or no doubt, if you get out of it you’ll be caught up by anything and you could be finished. It is a very, very powerful, effective, and absolutely conclusive power you have within yourself. And thanks to Christ that crucified himself, sacrificed his body for our sake, that our Agnya is opened, otherwise I could not have done this Sahaja Yoga. But in this area we have Buddha, Christ and Mahavira, and they had to do tapasya, tapaha. They did it. You don’t have to do now, they have done for you. Now, see, I saw the musicians yesterday, in two, three months they have learned so much. Otherwise, formerly, all the musicians I knew for Indian music had to really starve for months together, they had to practise for years together [and] they had to bow to their guru. That’s all over now because of this Paramachaitanya and your power to be one with the Divine. This Divine power can transform you completely to such an extent that anything that you want to do you can do it in two, three months. In Pune when they were singing once, foreigners, as we call them, with respect. In India ‘foreigners’ means respect, not like other countries. So they were singing [and] there were some very great musicians who had come and they told me, “Mother, we put down our head to them because how could these people, who don’t know a word about Indian music, have learnt it so well?”. “And the pronunciation of this Marathi language is very difficult but they are so good at it, it’s very surprising.” Now all this has happened in your presence, in your presence. It’s nice you have balloons here to celebrate Christ’s birthday and all these balloons in your heads, of ego, should be burst, should be finished. And I’ll be happy if you could learn Hindi language. I know English maybe not so good but best is to learn Hindi, if possible, because there are already fourteen languages in India and so many languages in other countries. Every country has a different type of English language. If you go to America I don’t understand their English for at least two or three days because they go on taking their tongue and their lips on one side and then on another side. English, and the French is another point. So best is to learn Hindi, and that too, a good Hindi, not Sanskritised (sic), but as they say “Roz-marrah ke” - day-to-day Hindi, because I feel better if you all understand what I am saying. It’s not difficult because you are all Sahaja yogis, you can learn Hindi in no time. I’m not saying learn Sanskrit! But Hindi is very easy. It’s not my mother tongue. I have never studied Hindi language, never. But it’s a very easy language to learn. But, as my Father told me, “Never teach Hindi language to an Englishman.” I said, “Why this advice?“ He said, “There was an Englishman who was after me that I should teach him Hindi.” So he said, “I have to tell my servant to open the door or to close the door. So to open the door he said you say, “There was a cold day” - means “darwaza khol de,” And for closing the door, you have to say, “There was a banker, ” “darwaza band karo.” But now it’s different. They’ll pick up Hindi very quickly, very quickly; I can see that. If they can learn this horrible Indian classical music, which is so difficult, so easily that will happen. They can learn Hindi in no time and make me happier with that, not because Hindi is my language, it’s not, it’s Marathi. But Marathi [is] very difficult. I don’t think you can learn Marathi. It’s very precise. I think that it’s one of the best languages to put down your ego. That’s why Maharashtrians are normally not egotistical because in their language there is built in process. For example, somebody is boasting, that, “I have done this, I have done that.” So in Marathi they will say, “Don’t climb on a bush or the tree of chana,” which is so big as that (very small bush). Then the person is finished! Like that there are many words by which you can put down the ego of the man on his face. So Marathi language has so many advantages. But I would not ask you to learn Marathi language, it’s not so easy. But Hindi you should, it is very easy, very easy. But you must know one thing, that in Hindi language there is adab. Adab means modesty and… Babamama: respect, respect. Shri Mataji: Respect, but more than respect it is. A style of saying things. Not Urdu, but Hindi of day to day talking, there is respect and a way to address others. All this will give you a kind of a more flexible vehicle to express your love. Because in Hindi language we can never translate, “I hate you,” we never say like that, “I hate you.” They cannot say because to hate somebody is sinful. So they can never say, “I hate you.” Chastity is more in Marathi language but it’s a little hard because it has got such, as I told you, idioms which can correct you, just there. All this is just to request you now, if you can learn this music, which is very difficult, you can always learn a simple Hindi language which is very, very easy and very, very easy to talk. There are so many things I would like you to know about Christ, but this is a short time in which I cannot tell you, the way he had his own priorities. Though in the Bible he’s not described fully, I should say, and whatever it might have been they have reduced it, maybe. And the way they practice Christianity also is shocking. So one has to learn Christianity through the heart, [there’s] no other way out. They should learn through the heart, heart of your Mother. May God bless you all. Normally after my lecture I give realisation to people - but you all have got it already. You can just put your hands and see for yourself if you have the cool breeze or not. And face yourself. If there is something wrong you must get it corrected. Better, better. Ta puja kara! (marathi: So let’s do the puja). Good!

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Adi Shakti Puja: Respect Your Wife

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Shakti Puja. Kalwe (India), 31 December 1997. [Translation from Hindi to English] Today we have gathered to do Puja of the Shakti. Shakti means all the Shaktis and not any one special Shakti. All these Shaktis are situated on all our chakras and without these Shaktis no work of the Devtas can be carried out. Like you know that the Shakti of Krishna is Radha and Ram’s Shakti is Sita, Vishnu’s is Laxmi. So in the same way the abode of the Shaktis is with the devtas. The Devtas cannot do anything without the shakti. That sole shakti is situated in the center heart as Jagdamba. This Jagdamba shakti is very powerful. You know that She lives as a mother or a wife with the Devtas. Worship of the Shakti means that there will be a Puja of all the Shaktis of the Devtas. By these shaktis being spoiled our chakras get damaged and because of that all our physical, mental and emotional problems come about. That is why it is important to always keep these shaktis pleased. It is said that the Devi should be pleased. By the awakening of the Kundalini this shakti got another Shakti. There is a speciality in these shaktis, that they become one with that Omnipresent Shakti which is the Param Chaitanya, the shakti of the Adi Shakti. Because of that oneness the shakti comes within. All these little shaktis get integrated with the Shakti. For example if your heart shakti is weak, and when it gets connected with the param chaitanya, then this weak shakti becomes powerful and its message reaches all the shaktis that now there is nothing to worry about as this shakti is now powerful. Shakti is in the form of the female nature, and the devtas are Male nature. So to respect a woman, to treat a housewife (gruhlaxmi) as a gruhlaxmi, is very important which the men have to learn. This does not mean that women should always give lectures or get angry. Women should like a gruhlaxmi look after their husbands, children and their homes. She has just one work. The husband has a thousand things to do. So they must marry properly and look after her is very important. The work of the husband is to treat the wife like a devi, like a shakti of the home. And the relation with his wife should be calm and pure. Man thinks that because he is a man he can do what he likes. This is a very wrong thinking. By doing this troubles come to him. If you trouble women then the devtas do not live there. A woman of the house should not be obstinate. She must keep her husband happy, should keep her house properly. The woman of the house ( gruhlaxmi) is the shakti of the house. So in a way there should be a very deep oneness with her. When this gets disrupted then a woman leaves her wisdom and gets upset, and sometimes she can be like a bomb, will quarrel; by this a bad influence comes on the children and the society starts breaking. When society breaks then the children will break. All wrong things will come into them and they will go astray. And the discipline of the home gets spoiled. In the house where there is no discipline the children get ruined, the society gets ruined. Today what is happening abroad? There the woman does not think that it is her responsibility to maintain the society, to live wisely. They are fighting all the time. By fighting, peace cannot come in the house. What should one do to bring peace? One must talk and discuss with the husband,” What is the matter? Why can we not live lovingly with each other by which our children become alright?” In the West they do not want to learn anything because their society has become absolutely shaken up. One woman will marry eight times and become rich. She is only greedy for money. She does not consider herself responsible for the condition of her society. She does not think that our society is my responsibility. Even today our society is still alright and the reason for this is that the mothers are alright. But the mothers should not force themselves upon the children. They should make the children understand, make friends, think of them as your equal and keep them on the right path. If our society becomes alright then the problems we are in, that we hear that there is bloodshed, bomb blasts, this or that is happening will cease. The reason for this type of fearful life that we have got into, is the mothers of such people. If the mothers had kept their children properly then today they would not have gone out of control, or did such dirty things. They should get such a life which is extremely pure and they always believe in their purity and keep it pure. Your shakti will only work if there is purity otherwise this shakti will finish off. So one should think that the basis of Shakti is Purity. Because when it will have no Purity then the shakti will just sit down right there and you will be powerless. In a country like America I see that the children are just without power. It is said that 65 % people in America will either get sick or go mad. The reason for that is that at home they did not get the Mother’s love and affection. A mother’s love and affection should not be of the kind that the children get spoiled. In that love and affection we should think that our child should become a very good citizen, a good human being and a very good Sahaja Yogi. If you give your children training with this intention then our society can become absolutely alright. For that there is no need to do much. If the children can meditate for a short time, that’s all. But if you give your children freedom, as times today are very bad, then children can go astray. So the women who think we are laxmi, or this or that must know that first of all you are the support of the society. The sight towards society is not of males. It should be of the women. That is why I always say that the women are weak in Sahaja Yoga and not men. It is very important that women should know all about meditation and Sahaja Yoga. It is very important, because it is only through women that we can make this society alright. Men are busy with governing, and economics. You have no concern with that. You make your children alright. For that you too must meditate daily. You too respect and grow deeper. How many women are there who are so deep. When they meet me they go on crying about their problems. That is why I am saying today that if you are Shaktis then you become in the form of the shakti and try to do good for the society. By this your countries and many countries can benefit. This will become a very beautiful bright example. People will say , “ What a great thing”. Our country has not yet become like this. In our country so many defects have come into women. One is that one gets very quickly enamored by foreign things. Being too much enamored by cinema, and trying to be like the heroines of cinemas. I had thought of marrying a girl, but heard that she sits in front of the mirror for three hours. So when will she look after her children, when will she look after her family? Is she really that much worthy to sit in front of a mirror? What is the need to do all this? And see what a face is coming out by doing all this. I cannot sit more than five minutes in front of a mirror! That is also too much! And then like this it grows and then girls go astray. The others are the girls who have got spoiled. They are convent educated, and can speak English, such girls will humiliate them. Then because they are being humiliated, these girls also ape the convent educated girls. You should think that what the level of such girls is. They are completely stuck in slavishness. Today this came in fashion so they wear it and tomorrow another fashion comes they wear that, and make a pile of clothes in their house. By changing into new clothes daily or doing fashions does not enhance a woman’s grace. You must understand the bhakti of your shakti. By that the special blessing you will get, you will be able to cure all problems without any hassles, because your oneness has been established with this all pervading power/shakti. So by fighting nothing can be achieved. Meditate with peace and understanding and bring your children on to the right path. Now the husband is very right sided. Thinks that he must do this or that, but a woman must integrate or contain in her house and family. Like the ocean, if you press it on one side it contains in on the other side. In the same way a woman’s heart should be. If she is in trouble on one side she contains or integrates into the other side. What does contain/samanaa mean? It means oneness. She must bring in oneness. If she cant do this then she is not the Shakti. If she quarrels and argues with everyone then she is not a shakti. Shakti means that you can integrate with everything. The highest. Whatever happens you are above it all. Then you are the Shakti, but if you got suppressed then you are not the shakti. Many things have been said about the women of this country. Even our country Bharat Mata we call as Mother. In this country the mother is considered a very great thing because she saves her children from going on the wrong path. She guides them properly. She gives them such invaluable qualities that will help him throughout his life. You must think that do we live in peace, harmony and joy in our homes? Your husband comes home and you start fighting with him. But if you say leave it and establish a warm atmosphere of love in the house then your children will grow properly. So in the same way, for men also it is very necessary that always making fun of your wife is not nice. This is a lot in North India. There is no cleverness or intelligence in that. This is all useless. Look at your wife’s qualities. It is not necessary to relate it, but try to understand her and get to know her good qualities and respect her. I am saying this today because a lot of women have come into Sahaja Yoga but still there are a lot of ceremonies in them. On this Friday do this etc. In Maharastra it is too much. You have become your own Guru why do you need to do ceremonies? So women who are stuck in this type of incidents they must be saved and made to understand. You have to make them understand that the shakti is within you and you can become active with this shakti. Today when I look at Mumbai city I see that the western culture has come in too much. But you can see that the westerners who have come from abroad, wear saris and are sitting with decorum. They are well educated and from high families and are sitting with so much decency and decorum. Over here I see that day and night the interests of girls are insatiated. Going out to eat in hotels, fond of roaming around and all the interests of the world. If one interest comes in, that I am the shakti that gives everyone joy, then see how the society changes. And men should also accept this. In this way by respecting a woman our society will become alright because society is dependent on the woman and not men. Now the second thing we have seen that the men have governance and economics in their hands. They should put their attention there. There is economics whether good or bad, but men must sacrifice for their country. I am surprised that I used to live in two worlds. When I was young my parents were in jail, and there was nobody elder in the house. We had big houses and we were living in huts but we were very happy. My mother gave all her money and jewelry to Gandhiji. Our nature was so full of sacrifice. My father was so self sacrificing. He had very expensive suits and when he came in to the Congress he burnt them all at the cross roads. Those people were something else. One cannot see such people nowadays who talk of sacrifice. Now they mostly think how to earn money or cut someone’s pocket. They also lived with Governments. They were also Members of Parliament and constituent assembly. But they had a mind of sacrifice. I have seen people who would sell off their carpets, and other household goods by which they could get some money. What are we going to do with all this? Such self sacrificing people I have seen and now I am seeing these beggars who are busy stealing money. It gives me great pain to see that how come such a difference has come only in fifty years. Where has our country gone? So much greed, so much want for money. They have crores of money but still they still want to collect and collect and are running after power. Men should try to understand that what have all we done? What all have we for our families? What all have we done for our country? What all have we done for this world? What have we given or we just came and looted, took and left. Our ruling people do like this. They don’t know what a great sin this is. This life is only so little but the life one has to spend after this life, those ones will know who have looted the country and filled their pockets. And then our country is poor. If such thieves will be your ruling leaders then what will happen? Do not give votes in the coming elections to any thief. Sahaja Yogis should decide to not give votes to thieves and if propaganda is done then say,’ Do not vote for Thieves’. They have taken all our money and emptied the treasuries. There is no money. They have eaten crores of rupees and gone. People do not have their attention on such matters. Do not vote for such people who have been stealing and humiliating their country. I am saying from the heart that you should support only those who are honest, because your Mother is very honest. If you were dishonest you would not have got Sahaja Yoga. So it is very necessary that you know your worth. Doesn’t matter if you buy fewer clothes, or a few pieces of jewelry. What will happen? But a mind of sacrifice is very powerful. It helps us a lot and with that our country can get alright. Where have all those self sacrificing people gone? Perhaps in jail. They are no more here. Very few are seen. That is why it is important that we move on Truth. And we will never give bribe or encourage greed. Never. If you all decide this then all such people will run away from Bombay. I bless and I order you that you go and take out slogans that “Do not Vote for thieves and corrupt people”. Make big banners and write on them, “The thieves/corrupt have eaten the country. Do not vote for the Corrupt” Do this everywhere and in every village. [English Transcript] I was telling them about the shakti, is the woman. Man cannot do without the woman. She's the power behind him. But how you treat your shakti is very important. How you look after your wife is very important. I was telling them in the West marriages are broken, families are broken, the children are on the road and there is no discipline at all, no discipline of any kind. You can't say what sort of children they'll be tomorrow. They could be devils. They could be anything because parents have no interest in their children and parents have no interest in themselves. So first of all, the family has to be all right. You must know that you have married. So many people got married now in Sahaja Yoga. So I have to tell them: at the very outset you must decide that you'll see the good points of your partner. And you must promise and take a challenge that we are going to make a very happy married life. Very easy to find faults with others, because your eyes are outward. If you could somehow turn them inside, you'll be surprised that you have many more defects then they have. And it's the responsibility of the women to look after the society. If something has gone wrong with your society it is because of the women, who don't understand what is their job, what is their duty. And their attention has gone so low that they try to compare themselves with the cheap women, with the cheap actresses and also women without any ideals in their life. You being Sahaja yogis, you have to understand that you're not like these horrible women. You are a special type. And you must not take to all the stupid thing that these women are doing for money. It amounts to prostitution, I think, the way things people are doing for money. So be satisfied. And if you are satisfied, you'll really enjoy yourself. You'll enjoy your family life. The woman who is not satisfied always finds faults with others, always is demanding something, can never make a good wife and can never make a good society. And this society which she will make will destroy the next society. Of course the men must respect women and respect the great qualities in them - their satisfaction, their patience, their understanding, everything must be respected. And they should not make fun of their wives all the time. I have seen, if that is done then women stoop down to the same level. That's no friendship. In friendship, you must have respect. It's all right, you can do this with your friends but not with your wife. And this is what I can't understand, that how men use their intelligence in such a stupid manner. Because she is the mother of your children. If you make fun of her, children will also make fun of her. Of course she has to respect you because she receives her authority from you, but also you must maintain her authority. You must keep her in proper shape. For small things, husbands give up their wives and misbehave. It's more shocking that some of the senior people in Sahaja Yoga have done all kinds of nonsense about their married life. I am amazed at them. How could they do it? And this really shocks Me. I was told that this year, on coming here, will be Sahaja yogis who will go astray, they'll do dirty things, bad things and, I should say, things which are not pure and they will destroy Sahaja Yoga. If they are predicted like that, you can imagine at this age of Mine, I'll have to fight it. But you all can fight it by understanding that it's not your life, this is not a Sahaja life and you have to live in a Sahaja manner, must bring a good name to Sahaja Yoga. Not artificially but really, people should say that if they have met any saints they are in Sahaja Yoga. The other day also, I said that miserliness is not the quality of a Sahaja yogi. Because he knows he'll get whatever he wants. Should go on distributing as much as you can. All this is going to work out in the favor. More than men, women are miserly. They'll look after their children but not others' children, not other people. So if the women become more socialistic, it would be a better idea. And it will help them a lot to do justice to their own shakti because she wants, your shakti within wants you to be generous, to be kind, to be loving. If you are not loving then it's not going to work out. [Translation from Marathi to English] I spoke to everyone in Hindi language, Now have Marathi people learnt Hindi yet, or still involved in Marathi language, which in itself is a beautiful language, but till the time you all learn Hindi, you cannot excel in Marathi. So now who just know Marathi, or who are just think they are Marathi , it will not work now, even God knows English language now, then at least you people should learn Hindi language minimum, if you know English that’s good, but you should know and speak Hindi language. Marathi people are the one who are headstrong, and have attitude. too much of ego, thinking I am Marathi and I am Shivaji Maharaj, all are Shivaji Maharaj and Jijabai. one cannot understand these people. So with complete Humbleness, one should follow Sahajyoga. There is no word called Humbleness here, and no one uses it. Even if they use word Humbleness, they don't mean it. They will do namaskar to me, as many times as they see Me. but what about other things. Marathi peoples' attitude and headstrongness, I have seen from here to there. they have many Gurus, rituals and conditionings attached to them, which will not leave them. When will they benefit? For name sake they are Sahaj yogis, just by keeping badge one cannot become sahaja yogi. From heart one should become sahajayogi. or that one should have humbleness, sweetness, and you should compassion towards others. How is your Mother? try to become like that. You should have humbleness in behaviour. Just as females fight on road I have seen Sahajyoginis fighting. I am surprised. You are sahajyoginis. you are considered as yogi’s now, from where you get this feeling of aggression. Humbleness means what? I don’t think anyone really understands. so my request to you all is that Marathi females should be more humble and even Men too. Men here if they are brave then get very headstrong, in Maharashtra. That’s not how it works in North India, surprisingly even if one is Commissioner, then he will be modest. Even a small job makes their behaviour wierd, such are Maharashtrians. they have become rebellious minded people. now I don’t understand how to make them understand, to go deeper. what is to be achieved should be learnt. So many saints have taken birth here, they got fed up with people here here, and they bowed down and bid farewell and attained Samadhi. because did not want to live in Maharashtra. People here don’t spare anyone they were after everyone even Me. Speak with love with everyone, and respect everyone Other person is human and so am I. My humanity should be visible to the other person. No point in making fun of others. There is no meaning in showing off your self- importance. According to my own experience, I used to think North Indians are awful but, now I see that Maharashtrian worse, I went to rural places in Maharashtra, but no where I could see humbleness in them. Elders have wierd strictness in them, which is nonsense. How will the kids be alright? I feel, men are so strict here, as if they are from military. There should be loving nature and sweetness in speech. you should consider all kids as yours But if you torture your kids, then how will you love other kids. So, Maharashtrians should have humility in them. I need not tell you the humbleness of Shri Ganesha. You should have same humility. The same sweetness should be reflected wchich is not visible. One should talk to each other with respect, since you all are yogis. We must respect each other because you all are yogis. Once, I was told, "close your eyes", By some people who came and said "These are lower cast people". Tukaram has written many couplets saying that "good I am born as Mahar". Many examples are there about such saints, but people have troubled them and sent them away, Nothing went in the brains of people, nor they understood anything. There is no principle of love in you. I asked youth congress leader once what is your policy, Policy? Thre is no policy. whatever senior leaders say we follow that, so if your senior leader do corruption you also do same Leader replied innocently " yes, we also do the same". So, here there is no need of fools, there is no need of idiots. we need different people. Now we have to improve the situation in Maharashtra. Here, you should respect the younger generations and nurture them. I really did not like youngsters being sent for a battle, and were not allowed to sit for puja, I clearly told that this will not be accepted anymore. Love is the most important thing. We don't measure the love which we feel for others. The love just flows. You should have unconditional love. With all love and respect we should treat each other, and create a new society of Sahaja Yogis for all of us. We have created, but still it has to shine. We should make it shine by your behaviour, and sweetness of your words, So that it reflects clearly. Our society will be extremely beautiful, extremely beautiful. So, avoid the negativity in behaviour, and accept the positivity, and follow these things for peaceful living. My infinite blessings to all.

Shakti Puja. Kalwe (India), 31 December 1997. [Translation from Hindi to English] Today we have gathered to do Puja of the Shakti. Shakti means all the Shaktis and not any one special Shakti. All these Shaktis are situated on all our chakras and without these Shaktis no work of the Devtas can be carried out. Like you know that the Shakti of Krishna is Radha and Ram’s Shakti is Sita, Vishnu’s is Laxmi. So in the same way the abode of the Shaktis is with the devtas. The Devtas cannot do anything without the shakti. That sole shakti is situated in the center heart as Jagdamba. This Jagdamba shakti is very powerful. You know that She lives as a mother or a wife with the Devtas. Worship of the Shakti means that there will be a Puja of all the Shaktis of the Devtas. By these shaktis being spoiled our chakras get damaged and because of that all our physical, mental and emotional problems come about. That is why it is important to always keep these shaktis pleased. It is said that the Devi should be pleased. By the awakening of the Kundalini this shakti got another Shakti. There is a speciality in these shaktis, that they become one with that Omnipresent Shakti which is the Param Chaitanya, the shakti of the Adi Shakti. Because of that oneness the shakti comes within. All these little shaktis get integrated with the Shakti. For example if your heart shakti is weak, and when it gets connected with the param chaitanya, then this weak shakti becomes powerful and its message reaches all the shaktis that now there is nothing to worry about as this shakti is now powerful. Shakti is in the form of the female nature, and the devtas are Male nature. So to respect a woman, to treat a housewife (gruhlaxmi) as a gruhlaxmi, is very important which the men have to learn. This does not mean that women should always give lectures or get angry. Women should like a gruhlaxmi look after their husbands, children and their homes. She has just one work. The husband has a thousand things to do. So they must marry properly and look after her is very important. The work of the husband is to treat the wife like a devi, like a shakti of the home. And the relation with his wife should be calm and pure. Man thinks that because he is a man he can do what he likes. This is a very wrong thinking. By doing this troubles come to him. If you trouble women then the devtas do not live there. A woman of the house should not be obstinate. She must keep her husband happy, should keep her house properly. The woman of the house ( gruhlaxmi) is the shakti of the house. So in a way there should be a very deep oneness with her. When this gets disrupted then a woman leaves her wisdom and gets upset, and sometimes she can be like a bomb, will quarrel; by this a bad influence comes on the children and the society starts breaking. When society breaks then the children will break. All wrong things will come into them and they will go astray. And the discipline of the home gets spoiled. In the house where there is no discipline the children get ruined, the society gets ruined. Today what is happening abroad? There the woman does not think that it is her responsibility to maintain the society, to live wisely. They are fighting all the time. By fighting, peace cannot come in the house. What should one do to bring peace? One must talk and discuss with the husband,” What is the matter? Why can we not live lovingly with each other by which our children become alright?” In the West they do not want to learn anything because their society has become absolutely shaken up. One woman will marry eight times and become rich. She is only greedy for money. She does not consider herself responsible for the condition of her society. She does not think that our society is my responsibility. Even today our society is still alright and the reason for this is that the mothers are alright. But the mothers should not force themselves upon the children. They should make the children understand, make friends, think of them as your equal and keep them on the right path. If our society becomes alright then the problems we are in, that we hear that there is bloodshed, bomb blasts, this or that is happening will cease. The reason for this type of fearful life that we have got into, is the mothers of such people. If the mothers had kept their children properly then today they would not have gone out of control, or did such dirty things. They should get such a life which is extremely pure and they always believe in their purity and keep it pure. Your shakti will only work if there is purity otherwise this shakti will finish off. So one should think that the basis of Shakti is Purity. Because when it will have no Purity then the shakti will just sit down right there and you will be powerless. In a country like America I see that the children are just without power. It is said that 65 % people in America will either get sick or go mad. The reason for that is that at home they did not get the Mother’s love and affection. A mother’s love and affection should not be of the kind that the children get spoiled. In that love and affection we should think that our child should become a very good citizen, a good human being and a very good Sahaja Yogi. If you give your children training with this intention then our society can become absolutely alright. For that there is no need to do much. If the children can meditate for a short time, that’s all. But if you give your children freedom, as times today are very bad, then children can go astray. So the women who think we are laxmi, or this or that must know that first of all you are the support of the society. The sight towards society is not of males. It should be of the women. That is why I always say that the women are weak in Sahaja Yoga and not men. It is very important that women should know all about meditation and Sahaja Yoga. It is very important, because it is only through women that we can make this society alright. Men are busy with governing, and economics. You have no concern with that. You make your children alright. For that you too must meditate daily. You too respect and grow deeper. How many women are there who are so deep. When they meet me they go on crying about their problems. That is why I am saying today that if you are Shaktis then you become in the form of the shakti and try to do good for the society. By this your countries and many countries can benefit. This will become a very beautiful bright example. People will say , “ What a great thing”. Our country has not yet become like this. In our country so many defects have come into women. One is that one gets very quickly enamored by foreign things. Being too much enamored by cinema, and trying to be like the heroines of cinemas. I had thought of marrying a girl, but heard that she sits in front of the mirror for three hours. So when will she look after her children, when will she look after her family? Is she really that much worthy to sit in front of a mirror? What is the need to do all this? And see what a face is coming out by doing all this. I cannot sit more than five minutes in front of a mirror! That is also too much! And then like this it grows and then girls go astray. The others are the girls who have got spoiled. They are convent educated, and can speak English, such girls will humiliate them. Then because they are being humiliated, these girls also ape the convent educated girls. You should think that what the level of such girls is. They are completely stuck in slavishness. Today this came in fashion so they wear it and tomorrow another fashion comes they wear that, and make a pile of clothes in their house. By changing into new clothes daily or doing fashions does not enhance a woman’s grace. You must understand the bhakti of your shakti. By that the special blessing you will get, you will be able to cure all problems without any hassles, because your oneness has been established with this all pervading power/shakti. So by fighting nothing can be achieved. Meditate with peace and understanding and bring your children on to the right path. Now the husband is very right sided. Thinks that he must do this or that, but a woman must integrate or contain in her house and family. Like the ocean, if you press it on one side it contains in on the other side. In the same way a woman’s heart should be. If she is in trouble on one side she contains or integrates into the other side. What does contain/samanaa mean? It means oneness. She must bring in oneness. If she cant do this then she is not the Shakti. If she quarrels and argues with everyone then she is not a shakti. Shakti means that you can integrate with everything. The highest. Whatever happens you are above it all. Then you are the Shakti, but if you got suppressed then you are not the shakti. Many things have been said about the women of this country. Even our country Bharat Mata we call as Mother. In this country the mother is considered a very great thing because she saves her children from going on the wrong path. She guides them properly. She gives them such invaluable qualities that will help him throughout his life. You must think that do we live in peace, harmony and joy in our homes? Your husband comes home and you start fighting with him. But if you say leave it and establish a warm atmosphere of love in the house then your children will grow properly. So in the same way, for men also it is very necessary that always making fun of your wife is not nice. This is a lot in North India. There is no cleverness or intelligence in that. This is all useless. Look at your wife’s qualities. It is not necessary to relate it, but try to understand her and get to know her good qualities and respect her. I am saying this today because a lot of women have come into Sahaja Yoga but still there are a lot of ceremonies in them. On this Friday do this etc. In Maharastra it is too much. You have become your own Guru why do you need to do ceremonies? So women who are stuck in this type of incidents they must be saved and made to understand. You have to make them understand that the shakti is within you and you can become active with this shakti. Today when I look at Mumbai city I see that the western culture has come in too much. But you can see that the westerners who have come from abroad, wear saris and are sitting with decorum. They are well educated and from high families and are sitting with so much decency and decorum. Over here I see that day and night the interests of girls are insatiated. Going out to eat in hotels, fond of roaming around and all the interests of the world. If one interest comes in, that I am the shakti that gives everyone joy, then see how the society changes. And men should also accept this. In this way by respecting a woman our society will become alright because society is dependent on the woman and not men. Now the second thing we have seen that the men have governance and economics in their hands. They should put their attention there. There is economics whether good or bad, but men must sacrifice for their country. I am surprised that I used to live in two worlds. When I was young my parents were in jail, and there was nobody elder in the house. We had big houses and we were living in huts but we were very happy. My mother gave all her money and jewelry to Gandhiji. Our nature was so full of sacrifice. My father was so self sacrificing. He had very expensive suits and when he came in to the Congress he burnt them all at the cross roads. Those people were something else. One cannot see such people nowadays who talk of sacrifice. Now they mostly think how to earn money or cut someone’s pocket. They also lived with Governments. They were also Members of Parliament and constituent assembly. But they had a mind of sacrifice. I have seen people who would sell off their carpets, and other household goods by which they could get some money. What are we going to do with all this? Such self sacrificing people I have seen and now I am seeing these beggars who are busy stealing money. It gives me great pain to see that how come such a difference has come only in fifty years. Where has our country gone? So much greed, so much want for money. They have crores of money but still they still want to collect and collect and are running after power. Men should try to understand that what have all we done? What all have we for our families? What all have we done for our country? What all have we done for this world? What have we given or we just came and looted, took and left. Our ruling people do like this. They don’t know what a great sin this is. This life is only so little but the life one has to spend after this life, those ones will know who have looted the country and filled their pockets. And then our country is poor. If such thieves will be your ruling leaders then what will happen? Do not give votes in the coming elections to any thief. Sahaja Yogis should decide to not give votes to thieves and if propaganda is done then say,’ Do not vote for Thieves’. They have taken all our money and emptied the treasuries. There is no money. They have eaten crores of rupees and gone. People do not have their attention on such matters. Do not vote for such people who have been stealing and humiliating their country. I am saying from the heart that you should support only those who are honest, because your Mother is very honest. If you were dishonest you would not have got Sahaja Yoga. So it is very necessary that you know your worth. Doesn’t matter if you buy fewer clothes, or a few pieces of jewelry. What will happen? But a mind of sacrifice is very powerful. It helps us a lot and with that our country can get alright. Where have all those self sacrificing people gone? Perhaps in jail. They are no more here. Very few are seen. That is why it is important that we move on Truth. And we will never give bribe or encourage greed. Never. If you all decide this then all such people will run away from Bombay. I bless and I order you that you go and take out slogans that “Do not Vote for thieves and corrupt people”. Make big banners and write on them, “The thieves/corrupt have eaten the country. Do not vote for the Corrupt” Do this everywhere and in every village. [English Transcript] I was telling them about the shakti, is the woman. Man cannot do without the woman. She's the power behind him. But how you treat your shakti is very important. How you look after your wife is very important. I was telling them in the West marriages are broken, families are broken, the children are on the road and there is no discipline at all, no discipline of any kind. You can't say what sort of children they'll be tomorrow. They could be devils. They could be anything because parents have no interest in their children and parents have no interest in themselves. So first of all, the family has to be all right. You must know that you have married. So many people got married now in Sahaja Yoga. So I have to tell them: at the very outset you must decide that you'll see the good points of your partner. And you must promise and take a challenge that we are going to make a very happy married life. Very easy to find faults with others, because your eyes are outward. If you could somehow turn them inside, you'll be surprised that you have many more defects then they have. And it's the responsibility of the women to look after the society. If something has gone wrong with your society it is because of the women, who don't understand what is their job, what is their duty. And their attention has gone so low that they try to compare themselves with the cheap women, with the cheap actresses and also women without any ideals in their life. You being Sahaja yogis, you have to understand that you're not like these horrible women. You are a special type. And you must not take to all the stupid thing that these women are doing for money. It amounts to prostitution, I think, the way things people are doing for money. So be satisfied. And if you are satisfied, you'll really enjoy yourself. You'll enjoy your family life. The woman who is not satisfied always finds faults with others, always is demanding something, can never make a good wife and can never make a good society. And this society which she will make will destroy the next society. Of course the men must respect women and respect the great qualities in them - their satisfaction, their patience, their understanding, everything must be respected. And they should not make fun of their wives all the time. I have seen, if that is done then women stoop down to the same level. That's no friendship. In friendship, you must have respect. It's all right, you can do this with your friends but not with your wife. And this is what I can't understand, that how men use their intelligence in such a stupid manner. Because she is the mother of your children. If you make fun of her, children will also make fun of her. Of course she has to respect you because she receives her authority from you, but also you must maintain her authority. You must keep her in proper shape. For small things, husbands give up their wives and misbehave. It's more shocking that some of the senior people in Sahaja Yoga have done all kinds of nonsense about their married life. I am amazed at them. How could they do it? And this really shocks Me. I was told that this year, on coming here, will be Sahaja yogis who will go astray, they'll do dirty things, bad things and, I should say, things which are not pure and they will destroy Sahaja Yoga. If they are predicted like that, you can imagine at this age of Mine, I'll have to fight it. But you all can fight it by understanding that it's not your life, this is not a Sahaja life and you have to live in a Sahaja manner, must bring a good name to Sahaja Yoga. Not artificially but really, people should say that if they have met any saints they are in Sahaja Yoga. The other day also, I said that miserliness is not the quality of a Sahaja yogi. Because he knows he'll get whatever he wants. Should go on distributing as much as you can. All this is going to work out in the favor. More than men, women are miserly. They'll look after their children but not others' children, not other people. So if the women become more socialistic, it would be a better idea. And it will help them a lot to do justice to their own shakti because she wants, your shakti within wants you to be generous, to be kind, to be loving. If you are not loving then it's not going to work out. [Translation from Marathi to English] I spoke to everyone in Hindi language, Now have Marathi people learnt Hindi yet, or still involved in Marathi language, which in itself is a beautiful language, but till the time you all learn Hindi, you cannot excel in Marathi. So now who just know Marathi, or who are just think they are Marathi , it will not work now, even God knows English language now, then at least you people should learn Hindi language minimum, if you know English that’s good, but you should know and speak Hindi language. Marathi people are the one who are headstrong, and have attitude. too much of ego, thinking I am Marathi and I am Shivaji Maharaj, all are Shivaji Maharaj and Jijabai. one cannot understand these people. So with complete Humbleness, one should follow Sahajyoga. There is no word called Humbleness here, and no one uses it. Even if they use word Humbleness, they don't mean it. They will do namaskar to me, as many times as they see Me. but what about other things. Marathi peoples' attitude and headstrongness, I have seen from here to there. they have many Gurus, rituals and conditionings attached to them, which will not leave them. When will they benefit? For name sake they are Sahaj yogis, just by keeping badge one cannot become sahaja yogi. From heart one should become sahajayogi. or that one should have humbleness, sweetness, and you should compassion towards others. How is your Mother? try to become like that. You should have humbleness in behaviour. Just as females fight on road I have seen Sahajyoginis fighting. I am surprised. You are sahajyoginis. you are considered as yogi’s now, from where you get this feeling of aggression. Humbleness means what? I don’t think anyone really understands. so my request to you all is that Marathi females should be more humble and even Men too. Men here if they are brave then get very headstrong, in Maharashtra. That’s not how it works in North India, surprisingly even if one is Commissioner, then he will be modest. Even a small job makes their behaviour wierd, such are Maharashtrians. they have become rebellious minded people. now I don’t understand how to make them understand, to go deeper. what is to be achieved should be learnt. So many saints have taken birth here, they got fed up with people here here, and they bowed down and bid farewell and attained Samadhi. because did not want to live in Maharashtra. People here don’t spare anyone they were after everyone even Me. Speak with love with everyone, and respect everyone Other person is human and so am I. My humanity should be visible to the other person. No point in making fun of others. There is no meaning in showing off your self- importance. According to my own experience, I used to think North Indians are awful but, now I see that Maharashtrian worse, I went to rural places in Maharashtra, but no where I could see humbleness in them. Elders have wierd strictness in them, which is nonsense. How will the kids be alright? I feel, men are so strict here, as if they are from military. There should be loving nature and sweetness in speech. you should consider all kids as yours But if you torture your kids, then how will you love other kids. So, Maharashtrians should have humility in them. I need not tell you the humbleness of Shri Ganesha. You should have same humility. The same sweetness should be reflected wchich is not visible. One should talk to each other with respect, since you all are yogis. We must respect each other because you all are yogis. Once, I was told, "close your eyes", By some people who came and said "These are lower cast people". Tukaram has written many couplets saying that "good I am born as Mahar". Many examples are there about such saints, but people have troubled them and sent them away, Nothing went in the brains of people, nor they understood anything. There is no principle of love in you. I asked youth congress leader once what is your policy, Policy? Thre is no policy. whatever senior leaders say we follow that, so if your senior leader do corruption you also do same Leader replied innocently " yes, we also do the same". So, here there is no need of fools, there is no need of idiots. we need different people. Now we have to improve the situation in Maharashtra. Here, you should respect the younger generations and nurture them. I really did not like youngsters being sent for a battle, and were not allowed to sit for puja, I clearly told that this will not be accepted anymore. Love is the most important thing. We don't measure the love which we feel for others. The love just flows. You should have unconditional love. With all love and respect we should treat each other, and create a new society of Sahaja Yogis for all of us. We have created, but still it has to shine. We should make it shine by your behaviour, and sweetness of your words, So that it reflects clearly. Our society will be extremely beautiful, extremely beautiful. So, avoid the negativity in behaviour, and accept the positivity, and follow these things for peaceful living. My infinite blessings to all.

3/20/1998

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Birthday Felicitations: Put Attention To Your Spirit

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75th Birthday Felicitation Program. Delhi (India), 20 March 1998. I bow to all the seekers of truth.So much has been said and really my heart is full of gratitude for all of you to come here, all the way, and the way people have described about Sahaja Yoga. To understand Sahaja Yoga, we should know where are we today in this Kali Yuga. What are we facing today? It should really make you feel quite disturbed to see the way things are going on in every country, everywhere. What's the problem? What is the, such a need for people to become so restless, full of tensions. Collectively, country-wise, anywhere you go you find some sort of a confusion. Terrible. The whole society seems to be boiling with a kind of a fear of destruction. What is the reason? There are so many religions, so many organized, disorganized, all kinds of things. There are so many sadhus and saints. There are so many books written about what you should have. But the only one who is a seeker of truth should see one point: Why, why there is so much problem in this world and how can you help them? Where is the problem? It is inside the human being. As described, you see, we have come out of a animal stage to a human stage. We have a human awareness, no doubt. In that awareness, we start seeing all kinds of things that are not good, which are destructive, which are disturbing. If it doesn't disturb you, that means you are not at all a sensitive person. But you are sensitive as a human being. So now what is the reason for this, is there. In every field of life, whether it is political, economic or any field of life in which human beings are living, there's a very subtle problem which people don't understand. Now if I say that, "There is spirit within us which shines in our heart," you need not believe, need not believe. But our attention is not on the spirit. They call it "atma vimukh" - our attention is outside. At this stage at the human awareness, our attention is outside, outside in various things. Now where should our attention go? To evolve, for what? To achieve what? The firstly, our attention has now go towards our spirit, towards spiritual understanding. This is one thing has to happen to human beings to begin with. Otherwise our attention is outside. We are worried about money, worried about power, worried about this, worried about that, in competition and all kinds of things going on. But if your attention is turned somehow towards your spirit then what happens to you is that you become a power of the spirit. And the power of the spirit is the highest power that you could think of. First of all, spirit is the one that loves. Loves without asking for anything, without expecting anything, just loves. It's an unconditional type of a personality which just emits love. Anybody in trouble, anybody having a problem, just it flows. This capacity to flow in the heart exists but on top of that, is the closing point, is that our attention is not on our spirit. Even in political endeavors or your economic endeavors, any endeavor, what happens is that attention is outside. So you go into competition, you go into this thing, you go on becoming very competent and then suddenly you find another one coming up. There are so many struggles when your attention is outside. Because in attention outside, there is no purity. There is no purity. It's just attention to yourself and that too is so limited. Very limited it is because if you pay attention to yourself, there's no end to your troubles and woes. For a person, as they said, really is fact that: I don't mind sleeping anywhere. I don't mind eating anything. I am not bothered about all these things, is a fact. Because, you see, it's not very important I think. But without thinking, I am made like that. I am like that, all right. But Sahaja yogis have become like this. This is the miracle that human beings have turned their attention to their spirit. Then you are amazed how things work out. Without any competition, without any fights, without any quarrels, how your attention becomes fixed on your spirit. First, the first thing that happens to you is good health. Your health improves. Firstly, if your health is all right, I mean so many problems are solved. This world, I think at least 30% people are always sick. Because of the tensions, maybe because of bad food and this and that. This is first thing that happens to you is your health improves. Today now in Sahaja Yoga, we have people who have learned that by these modern ways of economics and all that, has not given any peace to anyone. We think of America; I mean I've been to America, I know Americans: How terribly disturbed they are. Their families are ruined. Their children are ruined. And all kinds of stupid things are happening. Our Indian gurus are going and making a big money there. And they just want peace. They just want peace of the heart. That's only possible when your attention goes to your heart because in the heart resides the spirit and the spirit is the source of peace. First is the love and second as I told you just now is the peace. You become extremely peaceful. You become like a witness and you see the whole drama like a joke. It's nothing so serious to be worried about. It all works out. And this is what one has to become is to become the spirit which is your own, which is in your own heart and that is the source, as I told you, of love and again I say of peace. And the third thing that happens to you, that the source of spirit being joy, that joy bubbles in your life. It just bubbles in your life. You don't know how to get out of that great ocean of joy. You start swimming in it, enjoying it, every bit of it. You touch all the shores, going round the whole world, their hearts and everything. It is in the heart that resides. Again I say, it is not in the brain. No mental activity can take you to spirit. Spirit is only possible if your attention could be somehow taken to the spirit. And that's possible only through Kundalini awakening. This change of attitude towards life, this change of complete peace and joy has come to you all because your attention is now on your spirit. Now you don't think of money, money walks your way. You don't think of power, power walks your way. And the power of the spirit is the highest, the most powerful and the most righteous thing. It is not necessary that you should become a sanyasi, sadhu baba, do all kinds of things. No necessity of these rituals. The spirit is residing within you. Already all you have done in last lives. Now this life only thing you have to do is to put attention to your spirit. And that's only possible through the awakening of this Kundalini - the Primordial Mother. When She starts, I mean that's also your own. When She starts rising, She passes through the centers and enriches them, integrates them, and pierces through the last fontanel bone area and makes you connected to this all pervading power of divine love. But this power of divine love is not only "the love," if you want to say, it is also peace and joy and also it is the superior wisdom. It is rather subtle for normal man to understand. I know that. I've gone through that. For persons to understand that one can become the spirit .. but this is in the evolutionary process. Today is the time for people to become the spirit. This is the blessing of this blossom time as I call it and people have to become the spirit. Otherwise what is left of them is like all other human beings who'll, I don't where they'll end up. So this is an essential step today to become the spirit. All the saints, all the prophets, all the religions have talked about it. Not that they have not. Of course, we have twisted them. We have made separate, separate things. But it's only one simple thing is that you are a spirit and that spirit, unless and until you become, you cannot achieve any peace, any joy and no love. The Sahaja yogis here are sitting have achieved it. They don't think they are from foreign countries or from this country or that country. They don't want. Now here it is in this camp we don't have very good arrangement for sleeping or eating or anything, no good bathrooms, nothing. They are just enjoying themselves. Nobody minds it. Of course certain things of particular country may linger on. But then it drops, it drops. Gradually it starts dropping out. Like a flower when it becomes the fruit. All its petals and everything drops out and then it becomes the fruit. So you have now become the fruit -fruit of knowledge, fruit of wisdom and of love. For knowledge, you don't have to read books. There's no need to. People who have read too many are difficult to get Sahaja Yoga. But what you have to see yourself: What is the reality? But that's only possible if you are a realized soul. Otherwise you get lost in the illusions of the world. You live with the illusions all your life, struggling, fighting and I don't want to say what's the end is. So a simple thing that has happened with Sahaja Yoga, in your evolutionary process your attention now has gone to spirit than to anything else. As soon as the power of the spirit comes, you find yourself successful in everything. You don't want;. You don't ask for it and if you are not, you don't mind. You don't mind because you think they don't understand. It's all right, forget it. So there's no use fighting for it, asking for it. For this, one thing is important, first and foremost thing, you have to forgive everyone. Human beings, I don't know sometimes they're illogical. Supposing somebody tries to harm you. All right, I forgive him. Forget it because I have no headache of that. What he is trying to do is to give me a headache which I will not take. I just forgive. So that is a very important point, that Christ has also said that, "You have to forgive." Mohammad Sahib has said so many things but I don't know how people have twisted. Christ has said so many things, how I don't know how they are being twisted. Every one of them has said one thing: that you have to become the Spirit. And how people have twisted it and have formed so many religions and in that religion why should they quarrel? If there is one God there should be no quarrel. Now in Sahaja yoga, you find people have come from different race, different countries, different ideologies, everything. One thing great about Sahaja yogis, they are very pure people. There's so much of purity in them. There's no problem. I do not have that problem of immorality in Sahaja Yoga. We don't find anybody being immoral. If somebody has been immoral, he just gets corrected. If somebody has been cheating, he gets corrected. If somebody has been a corrupt person, he gets corrected. Because spirit gives the light for you to see for yourself what is good for you. Supposing you are going on a road and you are blind. You can walk into a ditch. But supposing you have the light and the eyes open. You know how to go. And that's exactly what has happened in Sahaja Yoga, that people have realized how to move, how to go about, how to walk, and not to fall in the ditch. I have seen people who have fallen into ditch also. But I have nothing but love for them. Because they were blind, you see, for a blind person you can just have love, isn't it? And I found that once I forgive them completely and I ask them, all right, even if they have abused Me, said things against Me, it's all right. Because they don't know what they are doing. They are blind people. So once you feel that way about others, that doesn't matter. Whatever they have done, whatever they have so far, so called harmed you also, is no harm to you because you are standing on a pedestal of truth. So the second point is that the spirit is the source of truth, not of untruth. For example, there is some false guru. Immediately you will know who is false. How? On your vibrations, on your fingertips you know that this man is false. Is all said by Mohammad Sahib that, "Your hands will speak at the time of resurrection." That exactly happens that you see: this is the trouble. Now if you want you can avoid that person or if you want you can bring him round and put him right. But we should not try on the complicated characters very much in the beginning, I said, because they will complicate you. Now those people who have matured in Sahaja Yoga can easily manage that also. And also we must know that all the elements are working for us. All the events of the world are just to show how wrong things are wrong and how right things should be done. Say for example, when Hitler came. He started destroying people. And he took nine years to build himself up. And he did all kinds of things which cannot be forgiven by anyone. But he died and suddenly you find in Germany, people are so enlightened. Now you heard some people, I was amazed how they are so enlightened about love and about the divine. All these countries, I've seen are doing so well unexpectedly. Imagine in England, who came to India and ruled us for three hundred years, there are so many Sahaja yogis. And also as you see today when I speak there, we have the whole hall filled up with people, in England. I've seen also in the countries like Russia, where these people were on the verge of collapsing after they started on democracy. Whether it is democracy or communism or anything, these are all isms. You have to come out of it and see for yourself that so called democracy has become demon-ocracy. So called communism has failed. Why? Basically what's wrong with them? It was all based not on the spiritual level. There was no spirit involved in it. It was all based on, I should say, on the endeavors which are outside, which were very limited. And those limits, once they break, you see you have a problem. Now economics, the world economics if you see is collapsing. Everywhere there is recession. If they are such experts then why there is recession? Why there are problems? Now the people say we must remove the poverty. I agree but not by giving some sort of a beggar's gift but with self respect. You can do it. You can do it because if you can approach people who need with Sahaja Yoga and enrich them, you'll be amazed, they themselves will do better and work it out. All kinds of things, you see, like in abroad people used to say, "Mother, You talk of spiritual life then why is it India is so poor?" I said, "They are not so poor in spirituality." They may be poor in money. Those who have got lots of money, are they also very good people? Are they also doing something very good? In the same way, those who are poor are not doing something good that one should have compassion on them. Agreed. Now what to do? If both sides are so miserable, what should we do? Is to change them. Change the whole attitude towards life. Immediately I've seen people who are supposed to be rich start understanding poverty. They start sharing. They start working it out. In Sahaja Yoga, you'll be amazed how people help each other. How they work out everybody's difficulties and problems into something very beautiful. You see, it's the wisdom that you get from this all pervading divine power. This power has been described in every religion. You call it nirakar, you call it ruuh, you can call it paramchaitanya; you can call by any name. But name is not the point. Whatever it is, once you are connected with this power, you are blessed. Thousand times you are blessed than you are as a normal human being. As a normal being, no blessings it has. It has nothing but your own endeavors that the amount you push in, that's what you get. Here nobody pushes oneself. Automatically you are pushed into that. This force, divine force brings you to that. And you have seen that in your own lives how you came to Me, how you came to Sahaja Yoga. It was some sort of a divine force which worked it out, which is Sahaja, which you may not realize but when you get your realization, you just think about your own life: "How I came to Sahaja Yoga? How I got this?" And then you see this peace, reigning over your hearts. The love, affection, everything. What is, as you said, I have many powers, maybe I don't know, but one thing for definite, one thing that Sahaja yogis can get all My powers. As a Mother, Mother wants to give everything to Sahaja yogis. This greatest joy for a Mother is to see Her son or daughter grow up like Her. I, I have a great vision of life. And I see the picture of that here today. I was a ordinary housewife without much money. You know My interest in money is zero. I don't understand even the bank and the somebody has to sign a cheque for Me. My husband has to count My money, I am so bad. But still I've never had problem. Never had problem because it is the greed in man, terrible greed in man that creates problems. But if he learns how to be satisfied, automatically the greed drops out and you feel absolutely comfortable. But that doesn't mean that you become a sadhu baba or you become a sanyasi or a something you give up. Those days are gone. Those ordeals you have passed through. You've been to the Himalayas. You've stood on your heads and did all kinds of things. Now no more is needed. What is needed is that: you have to put your attention to your spirit, the more you do it, the more you absorb all other attentions and put it to your spirit, which is there already existing. There is nothing to be brought from outside or nothing to be learnt. It is inside every one of you, is in the heart. Only thing you have to, you have to just feel it. Now that feeling can only come if you are awakened in the Kundalini. I know that no one like Mohammad Sahib or Christ or Abraham or Moses, who have created books or whatever history they have created, no where They would have ever thought that people will form an organized religion and start in a way as if they are against each other. But it has happened. It has happened. To remove that, you have to give them the knowledge, the pure knowledge. Not the knowledge of the book but the pure knowledge. And the knowledge that is pure is wisdom. Through this wisdom only I've worked. This wisdom I had from My childhood. Nobody has given Me. It's there. But this wisdom has taught Me one thing: that whatsoever maybe the condition of a human being, whatsoever maybe his style, whatsoever may be his ego or his conditioning if he can feel the love then his spirit gets [transformed?]. This transformation has taken place. Here we have only one percent of the people who have got realization all over the world. But I know, I remember them all today who are not here, that they have been seekers, madly seeking, seeking the truth. They went through horrible time seeking. They had very bad gurus. They had all kinds of expenses, everything they did. But once they came to Sahaja Yoga, they have found what was the truth is. And the truth is very simple: that you are the spirit. You are not this body, this mind, but you are the spirit. This is the truth and they have found the spirit. That's what is the truth that they have found. Once this truth is established within you, that you are the spirit, nothing can destroy you, nothing can harm you. It cannot have any wants. It doesn't have. What wants can you have when you have the spirit because such a satisfying thing? It doesn't condemn anyone. It doesn't runs after anyone. Is satisfied with itself, absolutely satisfied. You see, I was very anxious that I should lead a very normal life. I should not be like some Himalaya fellow or something like that. Because this is needed for a common people. Today it's a aim en mass, en mass awakening. It is not for one person. This was the thing because once any discovery is made, supposing, and that discovery only is for one individual, it has no meaning. It has to go to masses. And this is what I knew: I have to do it. And I had to work - they say so but I don't think I ever worked. I was just witness to whole thing. I saw it just like a witness enjoying all kinds of things as you sit on the shore of a ocean. You see waves coming, going like that. But inside, inside that is a human being who wants to evolve, who wants to become the spirit. Then he starts thinking what good he can do to others. So far I've been very anxious that people should become Sahaja yogis. I didn't take to any missionary work or any social work. I used to do when I was not in Sahaja Yoga, I should say, when I didn't start the Sahaja Yoga. But later on, I discovered that unless and until you transform people, unless and until you become the spirit, you'll become like any other social worker. I was working in a, say, blind school. I was the chairman of the blind school, blind people. And I was surprised, the people who were with Me were very funny type you know? The governor was to come and they said, "Who will sit next to governor?" I said, "What is this?" So they said also, "I being the president, I have to sit." I said, "Not necessary. I can sit anywhere." But they all started quarreling on this point. So I said, "All right, we'll take a plank and put it on head of the - of the governor and you all sit on that like sparrows." That humor helped a lot and they settled down. So this is the stupid thing where you see it, what is your position, what do you get? I mean it's so stupid that even the ant knows how to work out the collectivity. I don't know how human beings are dying after useless nonsensical things. But the only thing is, he has not yet become the spirit. So he doesn't respect himself, no respect. So he does all these things which are not very respectable I think. Then I thought that this kind of work people are doing, they think no end of themselves. Once you start doing something good, why should you think you are very great? I, I can't understand, you see, My brain is that way useless. Because what I found with these people who were working with Me, very anxious to take the credit for this. Somebody wanted to become the chairman, vice-chairman. I said, "You become everything." So the attention being on your promotion, it's not a real promotion, no promotion. Everybody used to laugh at them, it's a degradation. Your promotion is not through your own being but through your own spirit. Being means a very big thing, I think, but spirit is very subtle, very beautiful which is residing in all of you like a light. It's a light in you. Now there are Sahaja, so many Sahaja yogis who are giving enlightenment to others. There are people who are going all over the world. I was surprised that people from Germany and Austria came to help Me when I first went to Russia. I said, "What are you doing here?" Said, "Mother we have to do something because so many people were killed by our forefathers." Then My heart started really thanking them. Look at this, what has come into them? Then they went, you'll be amazed, to Israel and from Israel they brought lots of Sahaja yogis to Egypt. So I asked the Israelis, Sahaja yogis, "Why are you here?" They said, "Mother it's our job now to make friends with these Sahaja yogis from Egypt." Just see how love engulfs all these angularities, all these thorns of life and dissolves it completely. It's so joy giving to see your love acting on others. Small, small things and very big things, all that works out with love. For example, in an industry now people have problems of strikes. Very common struggle, haves and have not and this going on. But if you can raise the people to the spiritual height, to their spiritual need which is the most important need today, you'll be amazed there will be no problem of any kind. You see, it is a kind of a communism. It's a kind of a socialism. It's a kind of a democracy. It's all things put together which works. Democracy means we have Sahaja yogis who wanted to organize this. They said, "Mother what should we do?" I said, "I am not going to say anything. You do what you like. You choose whatever you like, whatever you want to do." And I was just busy arranging the flowers in the house because so many flowers came and I am worried about the flowers. I was just arranging the flowers in the house. And what I find, now see how they've done: no quarrel, no fight, no discussion, nothing. How have they done? Otherwise you cannot make ten people sit together and talk the same way. One will talk, another will talk, another will talk, will go on discussing, discussing this, reaching nowhere. Otherwise only one man has to work it out, otherwise nothing can work. So you see, it changes the whole atmosphere of every human being. Changes his attitude, changes his endeavors and everything becomes so beautiful and joy giving. You are a socialist also because you start thinking about the people who are down trodden, people who have no money who are poor, and you try to work out something by which they get some money. I used to go with My father for a case in a district called Chanda. And there I saw people just with one cloth around them. What was shocking to Me: just one cloth, whether it is winter or summer. I used to weep so My father would say, "Why to weep before them?" I said, "What can I do? I must try to do something for them." Now when I got so many Sahaja yogis, I told them, "I want to help these people somehow. And what they make is pottery." So they said, "Mother, all right. You can get the pottery. We'll import here and we'll sell them." You'll be amazed now, these people have got houses, they have got a good life to live and they are living very well. So in a way, it is a kind of a socialism. That you see problems and you know collectively to solve it, collectively, not singularly but collectively. The all of the Sahaja yogis suggest, "Mother, this can be solved." So far I have not done anything directly, I must say, like starting a organization of that kind. But now when there are so many Sahaja yogis with their attention on their heart, now My attention is going to the people who need our help. So first time, I have asked them to make an NGO for destitute women and for children who are being deserted by their parents. And immediately, you'll be amazed, it all did. We got the land. We got the people. I mean, I'm not doing anything and it's all done. Moreover, so many people have written, "Mother if You want land, we can give You. You come here, do this, do that." Can you imagine? Once I just thought of it: that we have to do something for the poor people. Also other so many things can be done with your attention which is pure, full of love because the love, you see, is something that gives you the wisdom how to do it. If you have love, it gives you the complete insight into the problems and how it works. See it's surprising for Me, I mean, I used to do that always but even after Sahaja Yoga I found that is the love is the solution. Is this only way we can enter into the hearts of people. But for that love, we should not try to do it for some money or for some achievements or for some sort of a reward, but just the whim of the love and that is what is today paying all of you: The way you love all the people. The way you have done so much work. You don't know what gratitude I have for you. Single-handed I could not have done it. I could not have gone to so many countries. It's a like a place like Benin, where there are only Muslims are there, I would never - I could never have thought of going to that far fetched place where these people are there and imagine these people are Muslims and they have all taken to Sahaja Yoga. And in that they are understanding the beauty of love. You, this is done by French. Can you believe these French? Going down all the way to Benin and getting it done. Even English have gone all the way to different countries; even the Austrians and also Germans and Italians are another quality of people who have a very rich heart, I must say. They have a very rich heart and the way they are spreading Sahaja Yoga throughout Italy is really remarkable. I am amazed how these people are approaching all these people who have never known what is spirit is and how they are getting them to Mother. Now with that, you see, we don't have to say "prohibition." We don't have to say "don't take drugs," nothing. No don'ts in Sahaja Yoga. Automatically they drop. I don't have to say, "Don't do it." Just automatically they drop. I mean you'll be amazed, once we had a program and there was a light to be put in a one of the deepas and nobody had a matchbox. Can you imagine? Nobody has a matchbox. Is such a problem with thousands of people there, nobody has matchbox. So we had to send somebody to get the matchbox. There's no need. So I never say, "Don't do this," never. I've never said it but it has worked like that, it has worked. I don't know how, how you have dropped it but it's very simple when the light of the spirit is there. In that light, you just don't. Now all the people have said, "Don't drink." Say for example: Sikhs, Muslims but you see they all drink because they are not really Muslims, they are not really Sikhs. If they were really that, they would not have drunk. How is it possible then? They have to be the spirit. In the light of the spirit, we just don't do anything that is destructive, just don't do it. You don't have to tell anybody. Now you are all sitting here, you know that I've never told you anyone, "Don't do this." But I was amazed in London that people overnight gave up drugs, overnight. People employ military, this, that drugs is [INAUDIBLE]. They gave up prostitution. They gave (up) drugs, all kinds of destructive things to which human being take sometimes out of frustration and sometimes because they feel very lonely. But now in Sahaja Yoga, you can never be lonely. All over the world, you have brothers and sisters. If they come to know somebody is there somebody is coming, they'll all go to the airport to receive. It's not a brotherhood of a ordinary life. It's a very deep type of a brotherhood. It's a very deep understanding. But they are very deep people, I must say, because they have been seekers and in that seeking they have really got completely into a turmoil and that has made them very deep people. This book is "Light of Quran" is written by a lady Gilmet. You read it. I would request you to read it because she is so deep. I knew she was very deep but the way she has expressed is so beautiful, so joy giving that she's not a Muslim, she married a Muslim, so called, because they were all Sahaja yogis and the way she has narrated her seeking is so beautiful. We have so many big writers in Sahaja Yoga who have given very, very nice books and things. But this Gilmet is very shy. She doesn't talk. She keeps quiet. But inside, she's so deep because of her seeking. So there are many people in this world who are seeking the truth because they cannot bear the nonsense of modern world and they are very sensitive. They are not insensitive, very sensitive people. That's how you all got your realization. It's nothing of Mine. To say that "I did it," is not proper. If you were not like a candle, I could not have enlightened you. So I am very thankful to you. And I am so much enamored by the way you people are feeling about Sahaja Yoga: that collectively you have to work it out, globally you have to work it out. You have to help each other and bring up the people. Most important thing is to create a mind universally which is towards the spirit. Then we'll solve all the problems, no problem. Now if I say I am starting some sort of a project here for the poor. Immediately all of them will send Me money. Immediately they'll all work. They'll find out who can work it out, who can come and help Mother. What work can we give them? How to work it out, all over the world. I mean, it spreads so fast. I have to just say that. I never asked for money. I never said, "I need money," but immediately they will plan out the whole thing, bring the whole thing here and work it out. It can work in India, it can work anywhere. It's not just they are interested in India. But globally they are interested in the problems. It is not for making some sort of a show or some sort of a, we can say, a cult. It is something which is very innate, which is very subtle and that works, that gives them joy. That gives them joy to do something for Sahaja Yoga. I am sometimes amazed how they feel for the whole world, how they care for the whole world, how they are willing to do for [?]. Of course as I said, every country has some problems. Like, we can say that north Indians are interested always in politics because Delhi is here. But is reduced now, very much reduced now. There's not much going on. And they don't like to hear anything against anyone. That's a good thing. And in the south, we can say in the beyond Narmada river, whatever we have, Maharashtra and all that, they are very ritualistic, very ritualistic people. Even if they put the thali [thali MEANS PLATE FOR DINING], you must put salt here, you must put vegetable here, you .. so that a blind man can also eat food properly. You must use only one hand. You must keep another hand tied up. They're very, very ritualistic because of these two things, you see, in Sahaja Yoga they do not grow. Whatever it is, we have to understand that these are [lingering PROBABLY ?] still are behind us. For example in north India, I would say if anybody speaks anything ill about anybody, just put your. This principle of Gandhiji was correct. Never listen to any nonsensical gossip. Gossip is going on. People like to listen to gossip because of this media also. They were showing nothing but gossip before election. And the whole gossip goes into our mind and that's how we work out. So for this part, I would request all the people from the north India to never to listen any criticism, never to criticize anyone. What is the use? Just see logically: if you listen to somebody's criticism, what is the use? What do you gain out of it? Now by repeating it to somebody else, what do you gain? What is the gain? Simple thing, always ask the question: What is the gain? And why to see something wrong with others? I know by that you can be cheated. Somebody can deceive you, is true. But doesn't matter. You don't get anything into your head. You don't get any filth and any poison in your head. I know there are people who create problem, talk from one to another, do this, do that. But that should not harm you in anyway because you have the spirit and the spirit cannot be harmed. It cannot be destroyed. It is said that, "It cannot be destroyed by any weapon. It lives and lives forever." So the attention towards the atma is lacking, atma vimukta. We, our eyes have gone, our attention is gone to something away from the spirit and that's why all the problems are there. Once you are one with your spirit, it works. It works for you because it is in connection with the God almighty. It is in connection with the all pervading power, which works out everything. I know this all pervading power. It has showing so many miraculous photographs about Me. And actually I, I didn't ask It but It is doing. Because very active, It is very active. And if It sees anybody who is subtle and who is deep, It acts. In your business, in your politics, in your family in everywhere you'll find this light will shine and you'll respect, respect the hearts of a person. You'll respect the love of others. You will respect the spirit that is shining in others. This is the reason why you have learned to respect each other, because your spirit is enlightened. I can see it so clearly. I am so very happy to see so many of you here for My birthday. I don't know what is the significance of a birthday is but whatever it is, it is one of the things that I can meet you, all of you here, so very happy. I am thankful to these people who are elites of our society. They are very great people elected and sometimes given very high positions and also there are some very well known industrialists. All of them have to understand the value of sprititual life. It's very important for them. Not to avoid this point but to be one with your spirit is your own property, is in your own, I should say, the complete glory that you have is to be the spirit. With all this, I don't know how to thank you all and how to thank all these people who spoke so nicely. Only thing, I wish you all a great growth in your spiritual life atmonnati, into your spirituality so that it covers all the corners of the world and create a beautiful world of tomorrow. May God bless you! H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi ******* Sir C. P. Srivastava speaks: Shri Nirmala Mataji, this is the first time I have addressed Her as Mataji. I think on Her 75th Birthday celebration, time has come for me to surrender myself fully to Her. Shri Patwaji, Shri Rizviji, Shri Janaji, Shri Rahul Bajajji, dear Sahaja yogis, Sahaj yoginis, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen. I regard myself as singularly fortunate to be standing here before you today to participate in this momentous celebration. Mr. Chidambaram asked one question. He said, "How is it that so many people are here today from all parts of the world? What is it that brings them here?" Now I want to narrate one incident to you which will probably illustrate how this Divine Lady has built up Sahaja Yoga, step by step on the basis of very devoted and very persistent hard work. I recall a day in 1974. I had taken up a job in London. We were living in a place called Oxterd-on-Surrey away from London. I used to commute. And you know I am talking of twenty-four years ago. And one evening when I returned home, I found in my house, I expected see my wife and some domestic help. But instead, I saw sitting in the drawing room on a sofa a young man, a young boy, white skinned and I didn't expect to see him there. So I looked at him and he looked at me and we wondered who we were. And what was even more intriguing was the fact that he was wearing my cloths, my kurta and pajama. So I began to wonder whether I was seeing some apparition, whether I'm in my senses, or something wrong with me? So I retraced my steps, went back to my Wife, and said, "Now who is he?" And She explained to me, She said that day She had gone to Piccadilly Circus and there She saw a young man, lying uncared for, unattended. Obviously, he was sick. So She went up to him and asked what the matter was. And the boy said he was very ill. He had nobody to look after him. And he was almost dying. Now She said, "Come along. Come with Me." And She brought him home and arranged for him to be given a bath. And since he didn't have any cloths, he had to wear my cloths. And I was greatly relieved. And I was very proud. She had brought home that young man out of tremendous love and compassion. And, you know, that young man stayed in our house for about 2-3 months. He was given Sahaja Yoga treatment. And within a matter of days he began to improve. His jaundice was gone. His drugs had gone. His alcoholism had gone. He became, within about 8 weeks, ..

75th Birthday Felicitation Program. Delhi (India), 20 March 1998. I bow to all the seekers of truth.So much has been said and really my heart is full of gratitude for all of you to come here, all the way, and the way people have described about Sahaja Yoga. To understand Sahaja Yoga, we should know where are we today in this Kali Yuga. What are we facing today? It should really make you feel quite disturbed to see the way things are going on in every country, everywhere. What's the problem? What is the, such a need for people to become so restless, full of tensions. Collectively, country-wise, anywhere you go you find some sort of a confusion. Terrible. The whole society seems to be boiling with a kind of a fear of destruction. What is the reason? There are so many religions, so many organized, disorganized, all kinds of things. There are so many sadhus and saints. There are so many books written about what you should have. But the only one who is a seeker of truth should see one point: Why, why there is so much problem in this world and how can you help them? Where is the problem? It is inside the human being. As described, you see, we have come out of a animal stage to a human stage. We have a human awareness, no doubt. In that awareness, we start seeing all kinds of things that are not good, which are destructive, which are disturbing. If it doesn't disturb you, that means you are not at all a sensitive person. But you are sensitive as a human being. So now what is the reason for this, is there. In every field of life, whether it is political, economic or any field of life in which human beings are living, there's a very subtle problem which people don't understand. Now if I say that, "There is spirit within us which shines in our heart," you need not believe, need not believe. But our attention is not on the spirit. They call it "atma vimukh" - our attention is outside. At this stage at the human awareness, our attention is outside, outside in various things. Now where should our attention go? To evolve, for what? To achieve what? The firstly, our attention has now go towards our spirit, towards spiritual understanding. This is one thing has to happen to human beings to begin with. Otherwise our attention is outside. We are worried about money, worried about power, worried about this, worried about that, in competition and all kinds of things going on. But if your attention is turned somehow towards your spirit then what happens to you is that you become a power of the spirit. And the power of the spirit is the highest power that you could think of. First of all, spirit is the one that loves. Loves without asking for anything, without expecting anything, just loves. It's an unconditional type of a personality which just emits love. Anybody in trouble, anybody having a problem, just it flows. This capacity to flow in the heart exists but on top of that, is the closing point, is that our attention is not on our spirit. Even in political endeavors or your economic endeavors, any endeavor, what happens is that attention is outside. So you go into competition, you go into this thing, you go on becoming very competent and then suddenly you find another one coming up. There are so many struggles when your attention is outside. Because in attention outside, there is no purity. There is no purity. It's just attention to yourself and that too is so limited. Very limited it is because if you pay attention to yourself, there's no end to your troubles and woes. For a person, as they said, really is fact that: I don't mind sleeping anywhere. I don't mind eating anything. I am not bothered about all these things, is a fact. Because, you see, it's not very important I think. But without thinking, I am made like that. I am like that, all right. But Sahaja yogis have become like this. This is the miracle that human beings have turned their attention to their spirit. Then you are amazed how things work out. Without any competition, without any fights, without any quarrels, how your attention becomes fixed on your spirit. First, the first thing that happens to you is good health. Your health improves. Firstly, if your health is all right, I mean so many problems are solved. This world, I think at least 30% people are always sick. Because of the tensions, maybe because of bad food and this and that. This is first thing that happens to you is your health improves. Today now in Sahaja Yoga, we have people who have learned that by these modern ways of economics and all that, has not given any peace to anyone. We think of America; I mean I've been to America, I know Americans: How terribly disturbed they are. Their families are ruined. Their children are ruined. And all kinds of stupid things are happening. Our Indian gurus are going and making a big money there. And they just want peace. They just want peace of the heart. That's only possible when your attention goes to your heart because in the heart resides the spirit and the spirit is the source of peace. First is the love and second as I told you just now is the peace. You become extremely peaceful. You become like a witness and you see the whole drama like a joke. It's nothing so serious to be worried about. It all works out. And this is what one has to become is to become the spirit which is your own, which is in your own heart and that is the source, as I told you, of love and again I say of peace. And the third thing that happens to you, that the source of spirit being joy, that joy bubbles in your life. It just bubbles in your life. You don't know how to get out of that great ocean of joy. You start swimming in it, enjoying it, every bit of it. You touch all the shores, going round the whole world, their hearts and everything. It is in the heart that resides. Again I say, it is not in the brain. No mental activity can take you to spirit. Spirit is only possible if your attention could be somehow taken to the spirit. And that's possible only through Kundalini awakening. This change of attitude towards life, this change of complete peace and joy has come to you all because your attention is now on your spirit. Now you don't think of money, money walks your way. You don't think of power, power walks your way. And the power of the spirit is the highest, the most powerful and the most righteous thing. It is not necessary that you should become a sanyasi, sadhu baba, do all kinds of things. No necessity of these rituals. The spirit is residing within you. Already all you have done in last lives. Now this life only thing you have to do is to put attention to your spirit. And that's only possible through the awakening of this Kundalini - the Primordial Mother. When She starts, I mean that's also your own. When She starts rising, She passes through the centers and enriches them, integrates them, and pierces through the last fontanel bone area and makes you connected to this all pervading power of divine love. But this power of divine love is not only "the love," if you want to say, it is also peace and joy and also it is the superior wisdom. It is rather subtle for normal man to understand. I know that. I've gone through that. For persons to understand that one can become the spirit .. but this is in the evolutionary process. Today is the time for people to become the spirit. This is the blessing of this blossom time as I call it and people have to become the spirit. Otherwise what is left of them is like all other human beings who'll, I don't where they'll end up. So this is an essential step today to become the spirit. All the saints, all the prophets, all the religions have talked about it. Not that they have not. Of course, we have twisted them. We have made separate, separate things. But it's only one simple thing is that you are a spirit and that spirit, unless and until you become, you cannot achieve any peace, any joy and no love. The Sahaja yogis here are sitting have achieved it. They don't think they are from foreign countries or from this country or that country. They don't want. Now here it is in this camp we don't have very good arrangement for sleeping or eating or anything, no good bathrooms, nothing. They are just enjoying themselves. Nobody minds it. Of course certain things of particular country may linger on. But then it drops, it drops. Gradually it starts dropping out. Like a flower when it becomes the fruit. All its petals and everything drops out and then it becomes the fruit. So you have now become the fruit -fruit of knowledge, fruit of wisdom and of love. For knowledge, you don't have to read books. There's no need to. People who have read too many are difficult to get Sahaja Yoga. But what you have to see yourself: What is the reality? But that's only possible if you are a realized soul. Otherwise you get lost in the illusions of the world. You live with the illusions all your life, struggling, fighting and I don't want to say what's the end is. So a simple thing that has happened with Sahaja Yoga, in your evolutionary process your attention now has gone to spirit than to anything else. As soon as the power of the spirit comes, you find yourself successful in everything. You don't want;. You don't ask for it and if you are not, you don't mind. You don't mind because you think they don't understand. It's all right, forget it. So there's no use fighting for it, asking for it. For this, one thing is important, first and foremost thing, you have to forgive everyone. Human beings, I don't know sometimes they're illogical. Supposing somebody tries to harm you. All right, I forgive him. Forget it because I have no headache of that. What he is trying to do is to give me a headache which I will not take. I just forgive. So that is a very important point, that Christ has also said that, "You have to forgive." Mohammad Sahib has said so many things but I don't know how people have twisted. Christ has said so many things, how I don't know how they are being twisted. Every one of them has said one thing: that you have to become the Spirit. And how people have twisted it and have formed so many religions and in that religion why should they quarrel? If there is one God there should be no quarrel. Now in Sahaja yoga, you find people have come from different race, different countries, different ideologies, everything. One thing great about Sahaja yogis, they are very pure people. There's so much of purity in them. There's no problem. I do not have that problem of immorality in Sahaja Yoga. We don't find anybody being immoral. If somebody has been immoral, he just gets corrected. If somebody has been cheating, he gets corrected. If somebody has been a corrupt person, he gets corrected. Because spirit gives the light for you to see for yourself what is good for you. Supposing you are going on a road and you are blind. You can walk into a ditch. But supposing you have the light and the eyes open. You know how to go. And that's exactly what has happened in Sahaja Yoga, that people have realized how to move, how to go about, how to walk, and not to fall in the ditch. I have seen people who have fallen into ditch also. But I have nothing but love for them. Because they were blind, you see, for a blind person you can just have love, isn't it? And I found that once I forgive them completely and I ask them, all right, even if they have abused Me, said things against Me, it's all right. Because they don't know what they are doing. They are blind people. So once you feel that way about others, that doesn't matter. Whatever they have done, whatever they have so far, so called harmed you also, is no harm to you because you are standing on a pedestal of truth. So the second point is that the spirit is the source of truth, not of untruth. For example, there is some false guru. Immediately you will know who is false. How? On your vibrations, on your fingertips you know that this man is false. Is all said by Mohammad Sahib that, "Your hands will speak at the time of resurrection." That exactly happens that you see: this is the trouble. Now if you want you can avoid that person or if you want you can bring him round and put him right. But we should not try on the complicated characters very much in the beginning, I said, because they will complicate you. Now those people who have matured in Sahaja Yoga can easily manage that also. And also we must know that all the elements are working for us. All the events of the world are just to show how wrong things are wrong and how right things should be done. Say for example, when Hitler came. He started destroying people. And he took nine years to build himself up. And he did all kinds of things which cannot be forgiven by anyone. But he died and suddenly you find in Germany, people are so enlightened. Now you heard some people, I was amazed how they are so enlightened about love and about the divine. All these countries, I've seen are doing so well unexpectedly. Imagine in England, who came to India and ruled us for three hundred years, there are so many Sahaja yogis. And also as you see today when I speak there, we have the whole hall filled up with people, in England. I've seen also in the countries like Russia, where these people were on the verge of collapsing after they started on democracy. Whether it is democracy or communism or anything, these are all isms. You have to come out of it and see for yourself that so called democracy has become demon-ocracy. So called communism has failed. Why? Basically what's wrong with them? It was all based not on the spiritual level. There was no spirit involved in it. It was all based on, I should say, on the endeavors which are outside, which were very limited. And those limits, once they break, you see you have a problem. Now economics, the world economics if you see is collapsing. Everywhere there is recession. If they are such experts then why there is recession? Why there are problems? Now the people say we must remove the poverty. I agree but not by giving some sort of a beggar's gift but with self respect. You can do it. You can do it because if you can approach people who need with Sahaja Yoga and enrich them, you'll be amazed, they themselves will do better and work it out. All kinds of things, you see, like in abroad people used to say, "Mother, You talk of spiritual life then why is it India is so poor?" I said, "They are not so poor in spirituality." They may be poor in money. Those who have got lots of money, are they also very good people? Are they also doing something very good? In the same way, those who are poor are not doing something good that one should have compassion on them. Agreed. Now what to do? If both sides are so miserable, what should we do? Is to change them. Change the whole attitude towards life. Immediately I've seen people who are supposed to be rich start understanding poverty. They start sharing. They start working it out. In Sahaja Yoga, you'll be amazed how people help each other. How they work out everybody's difficulties and problems into something very beautiful. You see, it's the wisdom that you get from this all pervading divine power. This power has been described in every religion. You call it nirakar, you call it ruuh, you can call it paramchaitanya; you can call by any name. But name is not the point. Whatever it is, once you are connected with this power, you are blessed. Thousand times you are blessed than you are as a normal human being. As a normal being, no blessings it has. It has nothing but your own endeavors that the amount you push in, that's what you get. Here nobody pushes oneself. Automatically you are pushed into that. This force, divine force brings you to that. And you have seen that in your own lives how you came to Me, how you came to Sahaja Yoga. It was some sort of a divine force which worked it out, which is Sahaja, which you may not realize but when you get your realization, you just think about your own life: "How I came to Sahaja Yoga? How I got this?" And then you see this peace, reigning over your hearts. The love, affection, everything. What is, as you said, I have many powers, maybe I don't know, but one thing for definite, one thing that Sahaja yogis can get all My powers. As a Mother, Mother wants to give everything to Sahaja yogis. This greatest joy for a Mother is to see Her son or daughter grow up like Her. I, I have a great vision of life. And I see the picture of that here today. I was a ordinary housewife without much money. You know My interest in money is zero. I don't understand even the bank and the somebody has to sign a cheque for Me. My husband has to count My money, I am so bad. But still I've never had problem. Never had problem because it is the greed in man, terrible greed in man that creates problems. But if he learns how to be satisfied, automatically the greed drops out and you feel absolutely comfortable. But that doesn't mean that you become a sadhu baba or you become a sanyasi or a something you give up. Those days are gone. Those ordeals you have passed through. You've been to the Himalayas. You've stood on your heads and did all kinds of things. Now no more is needed. What is needed is that: you have to put your attention to your spirit, the more you do it, the more you absorb all other attentions and put it to your spirit, which is there already existing. There is nothing to be brought from outside or nothing to be learnt. It is inside every one of you, is in the heart. Only thing you have to, you have to just feel it. Now that feeling can only come if you are awakened in the Kundalini. I know that no one like Mohammad Sahib or Christ or Abraham or Moses, who have created books or whatever history they have created, no where They would have ever thought that people will form an organized religion and start in a way as if they are against each other. But it has happened. It has happened. To remove that, you have to give them the knowledge, the pure knowledge. Not the knowledge of the book but the pure knowledge. And the knowledge that is pure is wisdom. Through this wisdom only I've worked. This wisdom I had from My childhood. Nobody has given Me. It's there. But this wisdom has taught Me one thing: that whatsoever maybe the condition of a human being, whatsoever maybe his style, whatsoever may be his ego or his conditioning if he can feel the love then his spirit gets [transformed?]. This transformation has taken place. Here we have only one percent of the people who have got realization all over the world. But I know, I remember them all today who are not here, that they have been seekers, madly seeking, seeking the truth. They went through horrible time seeking. They had very bad gurus. They had all kinds of expenses, everything they did. But once they came to Sahaja Yoga, they have found what was the truth is. And the truth is very simple: that you are the spirit. You are not this body, this mind, but you are the spirit. This is the truth and they have found the spirit. That's what is the truth that they have found. Once this truth is established within you, that you are the spirit, nothing can destroy you, nothing can harm you. It cannot have any wants. It doesn't have. What wants can you have when you have the spirit because such a satisfying thing? It doesn't condemn anyone. It doesn't runs after anyone. Is satisfied with itself, absolutely satisfied. You see, I was very anxious that I should lead a very normal life. I should not be like some Himalaya fellow or something like that. Because this is needed for a common people. Today it's a aim en mass, en mass awakening. It is not for one person. This was the thing because once any discovery is made, supposing, and that discovery only is for one individual, it has no meaning. It has to go to masses. And this is what I knew: I have to do it. And I had to work - they say so but I don't think I ever worked. I was just witness to whole thing. I saw it just like a witness enjoying all kinds of things as you sit on the shore of a ocean. You see waves coming, going like that. But inside, inside that is a human being who wants to evolve, who wants to become the spirit. Then he starts thinking what good he can do to others. So far I've been very anxious that people should become Sahaja yogis. I didn't take to any missionary work or any social work. I used to do when I was not in Sahaja Yoga, I should say, when I didn't start the Sahaja Yoga. But later on, I discovered that unless and until you transform people, unless and until you become the spirit, you'll become like any other social worker. I was working in a, say, blind school. I was the chairman of the blind school, blind people. And I was surprised, the people who were with Me were very funny type you know? The governor was to come and they said, "Who will sit next to governor?" I said, "What is this?" So they said also, "I being the president, I have to sit." I said, "Not necessary. I can sit anywhere." But they all started quarreling on this point. So I said, "All right, we'll take a plank and put it on head of the - of the governor and you all sit on that like sparrows." That humor helped a lot and they settled down. So this is the stupid thing where you see it, what is your position, what do you get? I mean it's so stupid that even the ant knows how to work out the collectivity. I don't know how human beings are dying after useless nonsensical things. But the only thing is, he has not yet become the spirit. So he doesn't respect himself, no respect. So he does all these things which are not very respectable I think. Then I thought that this kind of work people are doing, they think no end of themselves. Once you start doing something good, why should you think you are very great? I, I can't understand, you see, My brain is that way useless. Because what I found with these people who were working with Me, very anxious to take the credit for this. Somebody wanted to become the chairman, vice-chairman. I said, "You become everything." So the attention being on your promotion, it's not a real promotion, no promotion. Everybody used to laugh at them, it's a degradation. Your promotion is not through your own being but through your own spirit. Being means a very big thing, I think, but spirit is very subtle, very beautiful which is residing in all of you like a light. It's a light in you. Now there are Sahaja, so many Sahaja yogis who are giving enlightenment to others. There are people who are going all over the world. I was surprised that people from Germany and Austria came to help Me when I first went to Russia. I said, "What are you doing here?" Said, "Mother we have to do something because so many people were killed by our forefathers." Then My heart started really thanking them. Look at this, what has come into them? Then they went, you'll be amazed, to Israel and from Israel they brought lots of Sahaja yogis to Egypt. So I asked the Israelis, Sahaja yogis, "Why are you here?" They said, "Mother it's our job now to make friends with these Sahaja yogis from Egypt." Just see how love engulfs all these angularities, all these thorns of life and dissolves it completely. It's so joy giving to see your love acting on others. Small, small things and very big things, all that works out with love. For example, in an industry now people have problems of strikes. Very common struggle, haves and have not and this going on. But if you can raise the people to the spiritual height, to their spiritual need which is the most important need today, you'll be amazed there will be no problem of any kind. You see, it is a kind of a communism. It's a kind of a socialism. It's a kind of a democracy. It's all things put together which works. Democracy means we have Sahaja yogis who wanted to organize this. They said, "Mother what should we do?" I said, "I am not going to say anything. You do what you like. You choose whatever you like, whatever you want to do." And I was just busy arranging the flowers in the house because so many flowers came and I am worried about the flowers. I was just arranging the flowers in the house. And what I find, now see how they've done: no quarrel, no fight, no discussion, nothing. How have they done? Otherwise you cannot make ten people sit together and talk the same way. One will talk, another will talk, another will talk, will go on discussing, discussing this, reaching nowhere. Otherwise only one man has to work it out, otherwise nothing can work. So you see, it changes the whole atmosphere of every human being. Changes his attitude, changes his endeavors and everything becomes so beautiful and joy giving. You are a socialist also because you start thinking about the people who are down trodden, people who have no money who are poor, and you try to work out something by which they get some money. I used to go with My father for a case in a district called Chanda. And there I saw people just with one cloth around them. What was shocking to Me: just one cloth, whether it is winter or summer. I used to weep so My father would say, "Why to weep before them?" I said, "What can I do? I must try to do something for them." Now when I got so many Sahaja yogis, I told them, "I want to help these people somehow. And what they make is pottery." So they said, "Mother, all right. You can get the pottery. We'll import here and we'll sell them." You'll be amazed now, these people have got houses, they have got a good life to live and they are living very well. So in a way, it is a kind of a socialism. That you see problems and you know collectively to solve it, collectively, not singularly but collectively. The all of the Sahaja yogis suggest, "Mother, this can be solved." So far I have not done anything directly, I must say, like starting a organization of that kind. But now when there are so many Sahaja yogis with their attention on their heart, now My attention is going to the people who need our help. So first time, I have asked them to make an NGO for destitute women and for children who are being deserted by their parents. And immediately, you'll be amazed, it all did. We got the land. We got the people. I mean, I'm not doing anything and it's all done. Moreover, so many people have written, "Mother if You want land, we can give You. You come here, do this, do that." Can you imagine? Once I just thought of it: that we have to do something for the poor people. Also other so many things can be done with your attention which is pure, full of love because the love, you see, is something that gives you the wisdom how to do it. If you have love, it gives you the complete insight into the problems and how it works. See it's surprising for Me, I mean, I used to do that always but even after Sahaja Yoga I found that is the love is the solution. Is this only way we can enter into the hearts of people. But for that love, we should not try to do it for some money or for some achievements or for some sort of a reward, but just the whim of the love and that is what is today paying all of you: The way you love all the people. The way you have done so much work. You don't know what gratitude I have for you. Single-handed I could not have done it. I could not have gone to so many countries. It's a like a place like Benin, where there are only Muslims are there, I would never - I could never have thought of going to that far fetched place where these people are there and imagine these people are Muslims and they have all taken to Sahaja Yoga. And in that they are understanding the beauty of love. You, this is done by French. Can you believe these French? Going down all the way to Benin and getting it done. Even English have gone all the way to different countries; even the Austrians and also Germans and Italians are another quality of people who have a very rich heart, I must say. They have a very rich heart and the way they are spreading Sahaja Yoga throughout Italy is really remarkable. I am amazed how these people are approaching all these people who have never known what is spirit is and how they are getting them to Mother. Now with that, you see, we don't have to say "prohibition." We don't have to say "don't take drugs," nothing. No don'ts in Sahaja Yoga. Automatically they drop. I don't have to say, "Don't do it." Just automatically they drop. I mean you'll be amazed, once we had a program and there was a light to be put in a one of the deepas and nobody had a matchbox. Can you imagine? Nobody has a matchbox. Is such a problem with thousands of people there, nobody has matchbox. So we had to send somebody to get the matchbox. There's no need. So I never say, "Don't do this," never. I've never said it but it has worked like that, it has worked. I don't know how, how you have dropped it but it's very simple when the light of the spirit is there. In that light, you just don't. Now all the people have said, "Don't drink." Say for example: Sikhs, Muslims but you see they all drink because they are not really Muslims, they are not really Sikhs. If they were really that, they would not have drunk. How is it possible then? They have to be the spirit. In the light of the spirit, we just don't do anything that is destructive, just don't do it. You don't have to tell anybody. Now you are all sitting here, you know that I've never told you anyone, "Don't do this." But I was amazed in London that people overnight gave up drugs, overnight. People employ military, this, that drugs is [INAUDIBLE]. They gave up prostitution. They gave (up) drugs, all kinds of destructive things to which human being take sometimes out of frustration and sometimes because they feel very lonely. But now in Sahaja Yoga, you can never be lonely. All over the world, you have brothers and sisters. If they come to know somebody is there somebody is coming, they'll all go to the airport to receive. It's not a brotherhood of a ordinary life. It's a very deep type of a brotherhood. It's a very deep understanding. But they are very deep people, I must say, because they have been seekers and in that seeking they have really got completely into a turmoil and that has made them very deep people. This book is "Light of Quran" is written by a lady Gilmet. You read it. I would request you to read it because she is so deep. I knew she was very deep but the way she has expressed is so beautiful, so joy giving that she's not a Muslim, she married a Muslim, so called, because they were all Sahaja yogis and the way she has narrated her seeking is so beautiful. We have so many big writers in Sahaja Yoga who have given very, very nice books and things. But this Gilmet is very shy. She doesn't talk. She keeps quiet. But inside, she's so deep because of her seeking. So there are many people in this world who are seeking the truth because they cannot bear the nonsense of modern world and they are very sensitive. They are not insensitive, very sensitive people. That's how you all got your realization. It's nothing of Mine. To say that "I did it," is not proper. If you were not like a candle, I could not have enlightened you. So I am very thankful to you. And I am so much enamored by the way you people are feeling about Sahaja Yoga: that collectively you have to work it out, globally you have to work it out. You have to help each other and bring up the people. Most important thing is to create a mind universally which is towards the spirit. Then we'll solve all the problems, no problem. Now if I say I am starting some sort of a project here for the poor. Immediately all of them will send Me money. Immediately they'll all work. They'll find out who can work it out, who can come and help Mother. What work can we give them? How to work it out, all over the world. I mean, it spreads so fast. I have to just say that. I never asked for money. I never said, "I need money," but immediately they will plan out the whole thing, bring the whole thing here and work it out. It can work in India, it can work anywhere. It's not just they are interested in India. But globally they are interested in the problems. It is not for making some sort of a show or some sort of a, we can say, a cult. It is something which is very innate, which is very subtle and that works, that gives them joy. That gives them joy to do something for Sahaja Yoga. I am sometimes amazed how they feel for the whole world, how they care for the whole world, how they are willing to do for [?]. Of course as I said, every country has some problems. Like, we can say that north Indians are interested always in politics because Delhi is here. But is reduced now, very much reduced now. There's not much going on. And they don't like to hear anything against anyone. That's a good thing. And in the south, we can say in the beyond Narmada river, whatever we have, Maharashtra and all that, they are very ritualistic, very ritualistic people. Even if they put the thali [thali MEANS PLATE FOR DINING], you must put salt here, you must put vegetable here, you .. so that a blind man can also eat food properly. You must use only one hand. You must keep another hand tied up. They're very, very ritualistic because of these two things, you see, in Sahaja Yoga they do not grow. Whatever it is, we have to understand that these are [lingering PROBABLY ?] still are behind us. For example in north India, I would say if anybody speaks anything ill about anybody, just put your. This principle of Gandhiji was correct. Never listen to any nonsensical gossip. Gossip is going on. People like to listen to gossip because of this media also. They were showing nothing but gossip before election. And the whole gossip goes into our mind and that's how we work out. So for this part, I would request all the people from the north India to never to listen any criticism, never to criticize anyone. What is the use? Just see logically: if you listen to somebody's criticism, what is the use? What do you gain out of it? Now by repeating it to somebody else, what do you gain? What is the gain? Simple thing, always ask the question: What is the gain? And why to see something wrong with others? I know by that you can be cheated. Somebody can deceive you, is true. But doesn't matter. You don't get anything into your head. You don't get any filth and any poison in your head. I know there are people who create problem, talk from one to another, do this, do that. But that should not harm you in anyway because you have the spirit and the spirit cannot be harmed. It cannot be destroyed. It is said that, "It cannot be destroyed by any weapon. It lives and lives forever." So the attention towards the atma is lacking, atma vimukta. We, our eyes have gone, our attention is gone to something away from the spirit and that's why all the problems are there. Once you are one with your spirit, it works. It works for you because it is in connection with the God almighty. It is in connection with the all pervading power, which works out everything. I know this all pervading power. It has showing so many miraculous photographs about Me. And actually I, I didn't ask It but It is doing. Because very active, It is very active. And if It sees anybody who is subtle and who is deep, It acts. In your business, in your politics, in your family in everywhere you'll find this light will shine and you'll respect, respect the hearts of a person. You'll respect the love of others. You will respect the spirit that is shining in others. This is the reason why you have learned to respect each other, because your spirit is enlightened. I can see it so clearly. I am so very happy to see so many of you here for My birthday. I don't know what is the significance of a birthday is but whatever it is, it is one of the things that I can meet you, all of you here, so very happy. I am thankful to these people who are elites of our society. They are very great people elected and sometimes given very high positions and also there are some very well known industrialists. All of them have to understand the value of sprititual life. It's very important for them. Not to avoid this point but to be one with your spirit is your own property, is in your own, I should say, the complete glory that you have is to be the spirit. With all this, I don't know how to thank you all and how to thank all these people who spoke so nicely. Only thing, I wish you all a great growth in your spiritual life atmonnati, into your spirituality so that it covers all the corners of the world and create a beautiful world of tomorrow. May God bless you! H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi ******* Sir C. P. Srivastava speaks: Shri Nirmala Mataji, this is the first time I have addressed Her as Mataji. I think on Her 75th Birthday celebration, time has come for me to surrender myself fully to Her. Shri Patwaji, Shri Rizviji, Shri Janaji, Shri Rahul Bajajji, dear Sahaja yogis, Sahaj yoginis, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen. I regard myself as singularly fortunate to be standing here before you today to participate in this momentous celebration. Mr. Chidambaram asked one question. He said, "How is it that so many people are here today from all parts of the world? What is it that brings them here?" Now I want to narrate one incident to you which will probably illustrate how this Divine Lady has built up Sahaja Yoga, step by step on the basis of very devoted and very persistent hard work. I recall a day in 1974. I had taken up a job in London. We were living in a place called Oxterd-on-Surrey away from London. I used to commute. And you know I am talking of twenty-four years ago. And one evening when I returned home, I found in my house, I expected see my wife and some domestic help. But instead, I saw sitting in the drawing room on a sofa a young man, a young boy, white skinned and I didn't expect to see him there. So I looked at him and he looked at me and we wondered who we were. And what was even more intriguing was the fact that he was wearing my cloths, my kurta and pajama. So I began to wonder whether I was seeing some apparition, whether I'm in my senses, or something wrong with me? So I retraced my steps, went back to my Wife, and said, "Now who is he?" And She explained to me, She said that day She had gone to Piccadilly Circus and there She saw a young man, lying uncared for, unattended. Obviously, he was sick. So She went up to him and asked what the matter was. And the boy said he was very ill. He had nobody to look after him. And he was almost dying. Now She said, "Come along. Come with Me." And She brought him home and arranged for him to be given a bath. And since he didn't have any cloths, he had to wear my cloths. And I was greatly relieved. And I was very proud. She had brought home that young man out of tremendous love and compassion. And, you know, that young man stayed in our house for about 2-3 months. He was given Sahaja Yoga treatment. And within a matter of days he began to improve. His jaundice was gone. His drugs had gone. His alcoholism had gone. He became, within about 8 weeks, ..

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Birthday Puja: Be confident, don’t lose your confidence

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Birthday Puja, Delhi (India), 21 March 1998. [English Transcript] I was overjoyed to see the way you had organized this beautiful welcome. I must say that it's your love which finds all kind of expressions of enjoying Sahaja Yoga. I really can't understand how these unique ideas come to your heads, and you represent the different countries from where you have come. I wish you carry these flags back to your own countries, and tell them the message that the time has come for our resurrection, that we have to rise. We have to rise above this human level to a higher level of existence. And if that happens, then how it changes your life, how it makes you happy, how you lose all your absurd ideas of hatred and of harming others, injuring others: all this kind of ideas which have worked out to give some sort of a sadistic pleasure to many people, and they have enjoyed the way they want to destroy the joy of others, the happiness of others. To maintain the happiness, I know, you being Sahaja Yogis, you have to bear a lot, tolerate a lot of nonsense. You have already done it, and gradually once Sahaja Yoga is established in your own countries as something that is so beautiful, so very pure, so very important that all others in your countries also will try to follow that path which you have crossed over. Only your lives are the ones which will reflect the beauty of your inner being and of Sahaja Yoga. I told you yesterday what was missing in the human awareness, and that the attention was not on the Spirit. But when it is on the Spirit, what happens to you? Firstly you become according to Sanskrit words, gunatit: you go beyond all the three gunas. That means you are no more a person who is tamo guni, means the one who has got all kinds of desires of self-indulgence. Your attention moves from there to the second style where you are rajo guni, the right-sidedness: they want to do something, want to show something, you want to become something, you want to compete with others. All this struggle just disappears. "Atit" means beyond. Then sattwa guni: that is also where you are seeking, where you see that what's wrong in this kind of extreme behavior, and you just hate that kind of life and you want to get out of it, and then you start seeking. That also is finished. All the gunas are finished, so you become gunatit. It just happens when your attention goes to your Spirit, because now the attention is not on any one of your inherent, you can say, or conditioned qualities, or of egoistical qualities. So you become a person who is beyond this. This is something very remarkable as far as for normal life, but for you it is not, it just happens. You just enjoy being yourself. You're no more concerned about your own conveniences, comforts and petty things. But what happens is that you just go beyond all these three gunas which have been dominating you this way or that way. So that's how you cross the limit of human awareness, firstly. Then the second one is, you become kalatit: you go beyond time. I know today I was late somehow. It just works out that way. But you didn't miss the time. You were still enjoying. I could see, sitting in the house, that you are all in a very enjoyable mood, all of you are enjoying nicely. I'm not here, but still you are enjoying. This is beyond time. You're not bound by time. Whatever is the time is your own, because you are standing in the present, you are not standing here and thinking of the future. You didn't think about what will happen tomorrow or how will you catch your plane, or how will you do this. Here you were just enjoying, enjoying the present, and the present is the reality. If you are thinking of the future or of the past, then you are not in reality. I have told many-a-times that past is finished and future doesn't exist. So at this moment you are here sitting, perhaps may be waiting for Me, may be just enjoying every moment of your stay here, of your connections with others. And this enjoyment cannot be described, how you are enjoying this. Otherwise people would be seeing the watch, wondering, "Why Mother has not come? What is the problem? Why She is not arrived?" and all kinds of ideas can go round. It helps a lot to be kalatit. I remember in Nasik I had to work very hard because no Sahaja Yogi would come forward to do anything, they were so shy and so much worried. And it so happened, luckily or unluckily we can say, that My car failed on the way and I was delayed in going. About one hour passed, there was no car coming that way, there's no way to go, and we were stranded on the road. Now surprisingly, when I reached the place where we were going to have the program, the Sahaja Yogis took over. They took the responsibility, and they were very busy giving Realizations to others and working it out. Otherwise they would not. They could not believe that they have power to give Realization. I may tell them, but they would not raise their hands. And just because the time was there and they thought, "So many people are here, Mother is not coming or She may be coming, so it's our responsibility." In that way they took the responsibility. So when you are beyond the time, you become responsible for that moment. It's such a responsibility which is also collective, means you just all of you become responsible. It's very surprising, we are so many here, there's no quarrel, no fight, nothing. We are very nicely settled down, just beyond all kinds of stupid ideas of attacking each other. That happens because you are not involved with the time. The time cannot bow you down. Perhaps if it were not you people, some other people, they would have thrown stones on My car, thinking, "So it is so late She comes, we are here boiling in the heat." They would have resented. But not the people who are beyond time. They are nicely sitting down, enjoying themselves. It doesn't matter, the time passes on. Then you become dharmatit: you become beyond dharma, beyond your human nature. That means whatever you do is religious, whatever is your endeavor is religious. If, say, you are in a business, you would like to do business in a religious manner, because you are beyond religion you are not bothered as to follow a particular pattern or ritual of any religion, but you are beyond it. Like people who are, you see, not beyond religion: they must get up early in the morning, they are bound by their rituals and they pass through the rituals, and if one of the rituals is not done they are very unhappy and shaken up. But not you. For you, you are always in dhyan, always in meditative mood, and anything goes wrong you just jump into that awareness where you get the solution, and you are not disturbed, not disturbed at all when things go wrong. Like ritualistic nature makes you very constricted, very docile, sometimes can be aggressive also. People with their ritualism trouble others a lot. Like one lady who was supposed to be our friend came to My house. So she said, "I'm a vegetarian." I said, "Then?" "But I can't eat the food in which non-veg. food has been cooked." "All right. So we'll have to get new utensils." So I went and bought new utensils for her. So she said that "You have to be careful that even the spoon should not be used." So I had to go and get for her a spoon. Then she said, "Tumblers; because people are taking food here who are eating non-veg. food, so you better get us something which is absolutely new." So I had to incur all these problems. And then she was in the kitchen and she wouldn't allow our cook to cook anything for us. She said, "First I will cook, and then you can cook." And she made such a nuisance out of her that instead of being a guest she became a pest, and this is what happens to people who are ritualistic, because they are very demanding. They go on demanding that "This is our dharma." I know of another story was told to Me by somebody in Bombay. She said, "This lady who came to me as a guest, because she was related to something very high up, she was worse than my great-great-great-grandmother." I said, "Really?" She said, "I can't understand that in India we have such people still living. She came here and she said, 'I cannot take water from the tap. You have to get it from some sort of a well.' "Now, there are only two wells in Bombay. So people had to go and fetch the water, but the cook had to be completely drenched in water and then only he could cook. "'Because if he cooks without that, then I won't eat.' "And she went on, and on, and on there, and the cook got sick with pneumonia, another cook came and he got flu, you see? This lady didn't mind. "She said, 'No, that's my style.'" So she asked Me, "What should we do with such people, Mother?" I said, "You should have asked her that 'We have this thing. If you like it well and good; otherwise you don't eat, it's all right, good. Fasting is a very good thing.' That's the only solution for such people who are so self-centered and so much bothering others." So this self-centeredness comes to us because we think, "This is our dharma, this is our right, this is - everything belongs to us. How dare they do not do it?" How much we trouble others, how much we make them inconvenient, how much we try to make their lives miserable, we never think. We go on demanding things, "This is my dharma, what can I do? This is what I have to do." But it becomes such a conditioning of the mind that I have seen many cases in Sahaja Yoga who got conditioned like that. There was a lady, French lady who came to Sahaja Yoga, and her mother was very ritualistic to begin with, and she was so troublesome that she must go to church every Sunday. She would dress up well, go to church and come back home. And one day she just disappeared. So they told the police to find out this lady, and when he went to find out the lady, the police said that "We can't find her, God knows where she has disappeared." Then she said, "All right, go and find out in the church." She was still sitting in the church. Next time again she disappeared. It happened three, four times. So the police said, "Sorry, we are finished with her. Now if you want you can put her in the old people's house, and that's all." So they sent her to an old people's house. So this Sahaja Yogini told Me, "Mother, very surprising, they are otherwise very stupid people, they go on sitting, brooding, talking nonsense like mad, they have all become senile and their senility can be very well seen. But what happens that on a Sunday they all dress up well and go to church. That's the only point where they are sane." It is very surprising how the conditioning works. There was one person I had who came and stayed with us, and he said, "I'm very good driver." So I said, "All right." But he only know driving, he didn't know about London, what sort of a place London is. Now he knew the driving very well, but if I had to go to the north, he'll drive Me to the south. If I had to go to the east, he'll drive Me to the west. I said, "What's the matter? You know driving?" "Yes, I know driving, that I know, but I don't know anything about road, I have no road sense." One day the police got hold of him. I was also in the car. He said, "Where are you going?" He said, "I am going to such and such place." So he said, "Now you have been to this place six times. Again you are coming back to the same point six times!" So in the old age I have known that these things form a kind of a habit, but in young age also you can find people get so conditioned by their style. So this is what you can call the human element, where you get attached or get bothered about something. Now it's a kind of a, I should say, a madness that somebody demands this, somebody demands that, "I don't like this, I don't like that." It goes on, and on, and on. It's so common to say "I don't like," "I like." It is very surprising that they go on saying like this. They go to somebody's house, "No, no, I don't like this carpet." I mean, it's not your carpet, you've not purchased it. This person has purchased the carpet. What have you got to do? Why should you say "I don't like"? Who are you? You have not paid for you. The one who has paid likes it, finished! Why do you want to pass your remarks, "I don't like it"? Are you a connoisseur, so to criticize others? Somebody is wearing, supposing, the hairdress in a way, but "I don't like this kind of hairdress." "Why?" "I don't like, that's all." Then it goes from there to human beings and everyone. Who are you to like or dislike? What is your position? Why should you say "I like" or "don't like"? But is very common, specially in the West, to pass such remarks, "I don't like it." "I don't like India." "All right, if you don't like, sit at home. Why did you come here?" "I don't like Turkey." "Why?" Because if supposing anybody is wearing a long skirt, they'll say, "No, I don't like it because it is Turkish." So you should only wear short skirts. But we don't like short skirts, supposing. But one should not say that "I don't like it," because it hurts people, it takes away the pride of the person. Now when you are in Sahaja Yoga you must know that you are not normal human being, according to the normal standards, you see, you are above them. Your likes and dislikes are different from theirs, and your whole attitude has changed. You are, sometimes you are just like children, I have seen. You talk like small little children, very innocently, and sometimes you talk very profound things. Now this is unknown to people who are supposed to be normal, because normal people, you know, they are so bombastic, all the time they go on saying "I, I, I." Kabira has said that when a goat is living, she goes on saying "meh, meh, meh," means "I, I, I." But when she is dead and her intestines are drawn into a kind of a wire for, we call dhunak - means "with which they separate the seeds from the cotton" - that time, what she says, "tu hi, tu hi, tu hi": "you are, you are, you are." "You are everything." When you say that, immediately your attention goes away from others, finding faults with them, finding what's wrong with them, using your brains all the time to criticize others, to make fun of others, sometimes even to talk ill of others. People enjoy gossips. Why? They enjoy gossip because they don't know that another person is the same as myself, and I have no business to gossip about that person. So this understanding, I should say this loving wisdom doesn't exist when you are a normal human being. At the slightest provocation you can get angry, start doing all kinds of things just like a bull in the china shop, you can behave any way. Suddenly you'll find them just growing up into that. The reason for that is, you are not yet a Sahaja Yogi. But Sahaja Yogi is a person who enjoys all kinds of things. Say somebody becomes very angry and hot-tempered. He also sees that what is happening, how he is behaving. So, actually it is not a dharma that you get angry with someone, it's not. It is something very low to be angry with others, to be all the time shouting at others, to be exacting things from others or to criticize others, thinking you are something great. And this doesn't pay. By the time you come to the end of life you'll find you haven't got one friend, one neighbor. Another thing is that when you are very egoistical, you think no end of yourself and you go on talking, jabbering, talking, jabbering, and the another person just gets bored stiff; but still you are talking, talking, talking about yourself, "I did this, I did this, I went there. I, I, I..." It goes to any limit, and you are not ashamed as to what you are saying. I have seen people who have taken to all kinds of funny attitudes towards others, when they are just normal human beings. If somebody says something wrong about somebody, somebody says that "That person is like this, I know, you see he did this way." Immediately it goes into their mind, "Yes, it's so." Now that makes your mind a sick mind, we can say vikrudh, where the mind is not normal. You become sick, and you accept all this sickness and go on accepting it, accepting it till you are a sick person, and this sickness is extremely dangerous. Not for others so much as for yourself, because nobody can stand such a sick personality. Now you might say, I've seen people who have taken to religion. Like now I am a religious person, supposing. Now you better be religious, so what? You can't do this, you can't do that, you cannot sit here, you cannot eat this, this is important: all time to discipline others, instead of disciplining yourself. Because when you are a normal person you don't see yourself, you just see others; but once you are a realized soul, you just start watching yourself and see for yourself what's wrong. Now after becoming the Spirit, in the light of the Spirit you see yourself. You just see yourself. What happens, how you behave and how you enjoy yourself, when you know how to correct yourself. It's very sweet. Little, little things you do in such a beautiful manner, and you'll say such beautiful things. Of course there are people who cannot be corrected, they're incorrigible. So also you should just see this is incorrigible, you can't help it. Like in Sahaja Yoga we have some people who are all the time trying to help the wrong type of people, like they have taken a power of attorney in Sahaja Yoga. So if somebody tries to be funny, we expect a telephone call from that power of attorney. After two hours, he tells, "Now, please tell Mother that such and such person is to be looked after. This has to be done, that has to be done." It's absolutely a habitual thing with them to inform Me that "No, You must help, You must do something." But now it has become such a common practice, and we know that he will just now come along and give us a big lecture on this subject. So you see, it's a nature of a human being which has been going through the different types of complications in life, also born with some genes or something that he is not a very normal person, though we say he's normal; because the way he reacts, the reaction that he shows is very absurd. There's no need for anybody to telephone to Me, to tell Me that "You see, this man is such and such, You better look after him." Unnecessarily to interfere with others' affairs when you have no authority, when you have nothing to do with that person. All sorts of, I can tell you, designs are there that has been made into the minds of human beings, and these designs all disappear, just disappear. I don't know how they get all these designs, from where they get it - maybe their country, maybe their family, maybe their genes - whatever you may say, all this disappears, even your genes change. That is what is Sahaja Yoga, where you become the Spirit; everything changes. And what happens to you, that you become a person who knows what is joy, who enjoys joy, who enjoys existence, who gives joy to others, makes others happy, all the time thinks how to make others happy. Just it happens, though you are brought up the same way as others are, though you are being educated the same way, maybe; but all that disappears and you become a wise, beautiful, joyous person. It's something that you have achieved, of which you may not be aware, the way you are enjoying in this scout-ground. No other group could have enjoyed as you have enjoyed. I can see what you are doing here and how you are enjoying, how you are enjoying the company of others, it's very remarkable; and that has come because your heart is full of joy of the Spirit that shines within you. You can examine yourself and see for yourself whatever I'm saying is there or not. Of course, there are some people who think no end of themself, they are staying in a hotel or some lodge, or something. They are not enjoying. They still think that they are something great, so they must stay somewhere like that. Very surprisingly, specially Indians I have seen, when they come to Cabella they all want to stay in a hotel. In their lives they might be having one bathroom in their house, but when they come to Cabella they want to stay in a hotel with attached bath, with this, with that; young people, it's very surprising. It happens because I think they have never seen a good hotel, or may be that they have lived in a very bad condition. But a person who is a Sahaja Yogi can live anywhere, can sleep anywhere. Only thing is that his Spirit is there to make him happy, nothing else. That is the One that gives you happiness. All these other ideas that human beings have, which have created problems after problems. Now you see, because you belong to a different religion, you are bad. If you want to know about the Christians, you'd better go and ask the Jews; and if you want to know about the Jews, better go and ask the Muslims; and if you want to know about the Muslims, go and ask the Hindus. You'll be amazed how they talk about other people as if all of them are bad, and they are the best. So this whole attitude changes completely. You forget it: who is what, whose religion is what, from what sort of family they come in, from what is the background they are coming in. They become just one with each other. What they enjoy is the company of all the Sahaja Yogis. All the Sahaja Yogis are there, that's all. So many Sahaja Yogis will be there, and that is the Mecca, that is the Kumbha Mela, that you can call anything if you like. The collective joy that you enjoy has come to you because you have crossed, crossed that barrier which has stopped you from seeing the truth. The truth is, as I said yesterday, that you are the Spirit, and once you become the Spirit you become gunatit, kalatit and dharmatit. Once you cross these limits, then you become like a drop in the ocean. If the drop is outside the ocean, it's always frightened of the sun because it will dry it up; he doesn't know what to do, which way to slip, which way to move. But once it is one with the ocean, it just moves and enjoy because he's not alone, it's not alone. It's moving with the waves of that beautiful ocean of joy. And that is what you have achieved, of which you are aware; you know, but you don't know you have achieved it, because you are the Spirit. Now you should be on the watch about yourself sometimes, and you'd be amazed to see how you are changed, how you have become so simple and sensible and wise. So many problems come in the West because they are still stupid, I think, very stupid people. Because even an old man of eighty years would like to marry a lady of, say, twenty years, and he doesn't understand why he is doing it, because he doesn't accept his age, he doesn't accept that "I am an old man, I must behave like an old man." He wants to marry a girl who can be his granddaughter. This is more common in the West. They always think like that. Any young girl they see, they think they should marry that girl. They may be just on their way to the grave, but doesn't matter, they want to have a wife like that. This is the problem of the West. Now how does it come? Because they don't understand that we are old, and to be old is to be proud. Now when I was five years, I cannot imagine so many people could have come to wish Me a happy birthday. Even when I was fifty years there were not so many people. Now when I am seventy-five, see how many people are there to wish Me happy birthday! When you are old you should be proud of your age, if you have lived wisely; but if you have been stupid, then of course nobody can help. Everybody will laugh at such a person, but they will do the same thing. It's a custom in the West to go on having wives after wives, divorcing your wife and this, that. In India it's the other way round I should say, they don't have much respect for the women. They were supposed to have great respect for women, they were supposed to have placed their women at the pedestal of a sati, and even if the woman may be anything, they don't respect. Now this is from where it has come, I don't know. Some of them say that it is written by some poet that a woman should be beaten up. I mean, who is this poet? He should be beaten up I think, first of all. He was born out of a woman, and here he writes like this. So you see, we like to take up something which is wrong, which is absolutely absurd. This comes because you are not wise. A wise person will take in whatever is the wisdom. He won't accept anything nonsensical. You go on reading the books one after another, one after another. So many books you read, and where do you land up with that? You find you are reading books which are no good for you, useless, but if you are fond of reading, you go on reading. So the lack of wisdom gives you indiscrimination and you justify it, all that you justify and you say, "Now this is very good. Whatever I am doing is the best." It's not ego, I would say, but stupid human understanding. "Whatever I am doing is good. Whatever is my attitude is good. How dare anybody tell me anything that this is wrong, that is wrong?" Everybody will laugh at that person, make fun of that person. Such a person will suffer a lot, everything. But he will never accept that "I have done something wrong." So when you go beyond dharmatit you become, go beyond dharma, then what happens that dharma becomes part and parcel of you. You don't do wrong things, you just don't do it. It's not that somebody is telling you or you want to follow it, or there is compulsion or you are disciplined, but you just don't like to do wrong things, to say something which is not respectful, which is not helpful, which is not loving. This is the quality of a Sahaja Yogi, where you become the Spirit. Becoming the Spirit, you don't have to tell anybody, so obvious, so evident and one can see that, and the more you go deep into yourself, you find that you are endowed with such greatness within you, such beautiful feelings, such nice things within you that you overcome the ego of others. I must tell you a story. Once I went to see a saint. So the Sahaja Yogis said, "Mother, You never go and see these gurus and this and that, so why do You go?" I said, "You come along with Me." So we had to climb a lot. I said, "From here you see his vibrations. First you see his vibrations." So lots of vibrations were coming. So we went up the hill, climbed up. And this gentleman was supposed to have powers that he could control the rain, and it started raining, and raining very heavily, and I got completely drenched in that rain. When I went up I saw him sitting on a stone, just shaking his head with anger or I don't know what. So I went into his cave and sat down. So he came back, he came back and he said to Me, "Mother, why didn't You allow me to stop the rain? Is it to overcome my ego?" I said, "No, not that, I didn't want, I didn't see your ego anywhere; but the problem is the another. You are a sanyasi, you are a one who are an ascetic, you bought a sari for Me. Now if you bought a sari for Me, I can't take from you because you're a sanyasi. So I had to get drenched, so that I will have to borrow sari from you." And the whole thing melted away. He became a very different person. So with wisdom you know how to handle different types of people. You say things by which you melt their ego. Their conditionings also are brought into a kind of a new awakening. They see in you that wisdom, that love, that expression of, I should say, your Spirit. And that's how so many saints, though they were tortured and troubled by many, but they were definitely very much respected and loved. But those saints in those days, I must say, were definitely very nice and good people, but one thing was there: they were rather strict and disciplining with their disciples. The reason was that they were not realized souls, their disciples, and these gurus thought that "Unless and until you discipline these people, they'll never rise, they'll never become something great, so they have to be disciplined." And those who were seekers of truth accepted that "All right, whatever you say, we'll do. Even if you ask us to fast, we'll do it." They'll stand on their heads, "All right, stand on our heads. Do what you say, and we will be willing to do it. You don't have to worry on that point." And that's how they were very disciplining type. But in Sahaja Yoga there is no discipline taught. The reason is, you are realized souls, your Spirit is there and the Spirit gives you the light. In that light you see yourself so clearly, and you can discipline yourself. I don't have to tell you. You know that so many people have given up drugs overnight, but I never told them, I never even talked about drugs or anything, and how did they do it? Because they had the light, and this is what is you have got today, is the light of the Spirit. You become absolutely independent and absolutely free; complete freedom, because you have the light. You cannot do, you cannot do wrong things. Supposing now there is light, and there is some sort of a big explosion taking place. I won't run towards the explosion, no. You won't run either, because you have got the eyes. So the Spirit and its light is the greatest guiding factor by which you become, as I said, gunatit, you become kalatit, and you become dharmatit. You are not slave of anything. You are not slave of your watch, you are not slave of time, you are not slave as to what is your gunas are. You don't want to see whether you are right-sided, left-sided or centered. You are a Sahaja Yogi, and a Sahaja Yogi is beyond all these things, so you are gunatit. You are dharmatit because dharma becomes part and parcel of you. You don't have to follow any disciplining of dharma. I have seen in Sahaja Yoga, in some of the ashrams they are very strict. That should not be so. I have told them never to be strict. If somebody doesn't get up at, say, four o'clock, doesn't matter. Let him get up at ten o'clock. After some time he himself will get up at four, but don't try to discipline them too much. Children also you should not discipline too much. Of course if they are realized souls, they themselves are so good, they are so beautiful. But if they are not, try to give them Realization. Once you realize that those who are not realized are making all these mistakes, that they are in the darkness, your attitude towards them will change. You will just try to be extremely patient and kind, and affectionate and loving, because you will know that person is not realized. He has not got his eyes, he can't see, he is blind, he can't hear, he can't feel the reality. So first let him feel the reality. What is the use of giving him a lecture and disciplining? Still he'll go on making mistakes and troubling himself, or troubling others. So this is what you have achieved through your enlightenment, that you are beyond all these things. And you become a person of a temperament which is so loving and so joy-giving. I mean, it's so many examples I can give in Sahaja Yoga which has happened, that I have seen the beauty of their love and affection, not only towards Me, but only towards others also. Only if it is only towards Me I can explain it, but I can't explain the way they are kind to people, as I told you yesterday, that these people went to Israel, now they went to Egypt, they went to Russia. Who told them? I never asked anybody to go anywhere. On their own they felt they have to go and do this job, and they have to help people to get out of their ignorance. So today, on such a day when you are celebrating My seventy-fifth Birthday, and so many balloons are there - they are very remarkably, very picturesque and have colors of different types, expressing your love for Me. In everything I see your love. Whatever you have done here, all your decorations, everything, I feel My children are so loving. I have done nothing for you, I don't know what makes you feel such gratitude. I still want to know, what have I done? I have done nothing! But the way you want to express your love, it's very surprising; except for, I would say, that you got the light of your Spirit. In that light, might be you see something different in Me, but the way you are showing your gratitude is really beyond Me. As the other day, one of the speakers said that "You don't thank your mother, take her for granted." It's a fact. There's no need to thank Me, you have to take Me for granted. But the way you want to thank Me, just like a small little child would like to thank, you just become like children. You're so enthusiastic about it, and you don't understand that normally is not done like this anywhere; nobody tries to be just like children expressing their beautiful love. It's a very new thing that one can see. Such peace, such love, such joy all around in a far-fetched place like this, how could you do that? How could you manage that? It's not easy to understand, it's not for human beings to see that. They just don't understand how these people are like this, and why are they living like this so happily? Now you have comforts in the house, you are living so well in your houses, everything is there, but here in this scout-ground it's not such a comfortable place to live. But you can live anywhere, I know, I have seen it. Wherever you are, as long as there are Sahaja Yogis around, you don't care for anything. And this collective enjoyment of each other, without any expectation, without any criticism, without any gossip or any nonsense like that, is so beautiful. And even when you pull each other's legs, you know, I enjoy your jokes and understand that it's such friendship, such beautiful friendship. Whether you are from India or from England or from America, or from any other place, you find there's such oneness of understanding, oneness of movement, like one waves rises and another wave rises, and another wave rises. It's continuous, eternal, and this is what one has to achieve for others also. For that also, must remember that you have the light; others don't have. So you have to be very considerate, tolerant and understanding about their problem, and just listen to them. What is their problem? First they'll tell you that "My business is going down," or they might say that "My wife is no good," or "My son has no job, he is not working." All kinds of things they might tell you. Listen, listen to them, for them it is important, all right. After that you will find gradually, you see, they'll soothe down because you are emitting love, you are emitting joy, you are emitting confidence through your spiritual awakening. You have those powers. You just stand anywhere and you can create peace in that place, you can create happiness in that place. So be confident, don't lose your confidence. Also your wisdom to understand others will be very much convincing for other people to understand that "They are something exceptional. They don't get angry, they don't get into temper, they are not mad people, they are not after some sort of a craze - just very, very balanced people." And this you don't have to practice. It is there. It is within you, and you should be proud of it. You should not think that it is something that you have to achieve, or to become. You have it, within yourself you have it. Only thing that you have to see in the light of the Spirit yourself. It just is a very simple thing, and that works out. It is not easy for others to understand you, but it should be very easy to understand them; because you were like that before, and now they are seeing you and they will become like you. It's very simple. You can see this, that I started Sahaja Yoga with one lady. And now today, see how many are there. Now what have I done, I really don't know, what have I done? I have no idea. And what you think, such gratitude and enjoyment and joy! So all these things, whatever I have told you, you have to be aware of your being, of your own Self, of your Spirit, that you are the Spirit. And as you are the Spirit, you are beyond all these things. And once that happens, you'll be amazed what a personality you are. (Shri Mataji continues in Hindi) [Translation from Hindi] Today I spoke in English, because most of the time I speak to you in Hindi. But whatever I have spoken to them, I am sure you must have understood. What has been said is, that when the light of the Spirit spreads inside you, then three attributes get awakened within you. As you know, within you , you have three gunas (constituents of Nature) – Tamo Guna, Rajo Guna and Satya Guna. Those who are Tamo Gunis have a style of their own. Rajo Gunis have their own style. And when they feel the tedium and aversion of their pursuits; they enter into the area of Sattwa Guna (search or seeking for the truth). And then one feels, that I must stop these useless pursuits and look beyond. When you enter the state of Satwa Guna, then your search starts. And when you achieve what you are searching, then you go beyond all these three states. That is when a person is recognized as Gunateet (beyond the gunas); Kalateet (beyond time); and Dharmateet (beyond Dharmas). They do not have any particular Dharma. Whatever he does, is Dharmic in itself. He cannot do anything adharmic (against dharma). His very nature, Swabhav – (Swa means the spirit, bhava means nature of the spirit), becomes swayam, the Self. It becomes like this – that he experiences a special kind of self existence, a special kind of peace; and a special state of being. Then he becomes a special personality, the giver of peace, happiness, and joy, to everyone who comes into contact with him. It may happen sometimes that the love you are giving people, is not understood by them. They might misuse it. It can happen. But it does not upset you. You just feel, he is still ignorant. He is not able to understand. He lacks proper understanding. You don’t comment on his shortcomings. You just watch; and think, that maybe later he will improve. Because you realize that at one time you were also like this, and now you are standing at a higher level. Tomorrow he will also come into our fold. Now you are so many. Shri Jesus only had twelve disciples. And they made so many, many, Christians. Nobody gave anybody realization, but they made them Christians. You people can give realization. This is the work you all have to do now. That whomever you see, just give them realization. All questions and doubts will disappear, and a new kind of ambition will arise within you. A very unique manvantar, (evolved species) is starting to emerge. (Punar Utthan ka bela), the Age of Resurrection has come. With this, a transformation of human beings has to happen. It is most necessary. Otherwise the problems of human beings can never be corrected and solved. There has to be a transformation. And when he is transformed, he will become so auspicious and beautiful. And the auspiciousness of every aspect of his life, enters the environment and dances. In order to achieve such a beautiful and auspicious life, you do not have to do anything. You don’t have to pay for it, or labour for it. Nothing to be done. Just awaken the sleeping energy within, maintain the awakened state and enjoy. There are so many deep people in Sahaja Yoga, and I Myself am amazed at seeing this. That how did they take this profound depth into their lives so fast. Actually this depth was already there within them. But they were in darkness. Now, when they have entered the Light, they have become enlightened, beautiful, and auspicious. What can I say about all this! There is a great aandolan (upheaval) in My Heart, that whatever powers there are in the entire Brahmand (Creation), you should achieve all of it. All these powers that the Rishis and Munis (sages and saints) of old had achieved, may you also achieve that. And achieve them, even while you live a normal life. Today is a very Shubh Divas (auspicious day), and you have celebrated it with so much joy. Like little children you have given Me so much love. What can I say. I just cannot find words. It is actually too much, too much! And to fully understand and absorb it, is going to be very difficult. That why have you bestowed so much love on Me. What have I done for you. I am just not able to fathom it. I have not done anything great for you. This is your love which has grown and grown, and reached this stage. All I can say to you is, keep growing in this way and keep taking others along with you. They should also experience this happiness and joy. May they all become a part of this process, where a special and unique personality is emerging. My eternal Blessings.

Birthday Puja, Delhi (India), 21 March 1998. [English Transcript] I was overjoyed to see the way you had organized this beautiful welcome. I must say that it's your love which finds all kind of expressions of enjoying Sahaja Yoga. I really can't understand how these unique ideas come to your heads, and you represent the different countries from where you have come. I wish you carry these flags back to your own countries, and tell them the message that the time has come for our resurrection, that we have to rise. We have to rise above this human level to a higher level of existence. And if that happens, then how it changes your life, how it makes you happy, how you lose all your absurd ideas of hatred and of harming others, injuring others: all this kind of ideas which have worked out to give some sort of a sadistic pleasure to many people, and they have enjoyed the way they want to destroy the joy of others, the happiness of others. To maintain the happiness, I know, you being Sahaja Yogis, you have to bear a lot, tolerate a lot of nonsense. You have already done it, and gradually once Sahaja Yoga is established in your own countries as something that is so beautiful, so very pure, so very important that all others in your countries also will try to follow that path which you have crossed over. Only your lives are the ones which will reflect the beauty of your inner being and of Sahaja Yoga. I told you yesterday what was missing in the human awareness, and that the attention was not on the Spirit. But when it is on the Spirit, what happens to you? Firstly you become according to Sanskrit words, gunatit: you go beyond all the three gunas. That means you are no more a person who is tamo guni, means the one who has got all kinds of desires of self-indulgence. Your attention moves from there to the second style where you are rajo guni, the right-sidedness: they want to do something, want to show something, you want to become something, you want to compete with others. All this struggle just disappears. "Atit" means beyond. Then sattwa guni: that is also where you are seeking, where you see that what's wrong in this kind of extreme behavior, and you just hate that kind of life and you want to get out of it, and then you start seeking. That also is finished. All the gunas are finished, so you become gunatit. It just happens when your attention goes to your Spirit, because now the attention is not on any one of your inherent, you can say, or conditioned qualities, or of egoistical qualities. So you become a person who is beyond this. This is something very remarkable as far as for normal life, but for you it is not, it just happens. You just enjoy being yourself. You're no more concerned about your own conveniences, comforts and petty things. But what happens is that you just go beyond all these three gunas which have been dominating you this way or that way. So that's how you cross the limit of human awareness, firstly. Then the second one is, you become kalatit: you go beyond time. I know today I was late somehow. It just works out that way. But you didn't miss the time. You were still enjoying. I could see, sitting in the house, that you are all in a very enjoyable mood, all of you are enjoying nicely. I'm not here, but still you are enjoying. This is beyond time. You're not bound by time. Whatever is the time is your own, because you are standing in the present, you are not standing here and thinking of the future. You didn't think about what will happen tomorrow or how will you catch your plane, or how will you do this. Here you were just enjoying, enjoying the present, and the present is the reality. If you are thinking of the future or of the past, then you are not in reality. I have told many-a-times that past is finished and future doesn't exist. So at this moment you are here sitting, perhaps may be waiting for Me, may be just enjoying every moment of your stay here, of your connections with others. And this enjoyment cannot be described, how you are enjoying this. Otherwise people would be seeing the watch, wondering, "Why Mother has not come? What is the problem? Why She is not arrived?" and all kinds of ideas can go round. It helps a lot to be kalatit. I remember in Nasik I had to work very hard because no Sahaja Yogi would come forward to do anything, they were so shy and so much worried. And it so happened, luckily or unluckily we can say, that My car failed on the way and I was delayed in going. About one hour passed, there was no car coming that way, there's no way to go, and we were stranded on the road. Now surprisingly, when I reached the place where we were going to have the program, the Sahaja Yogis took over. They took the responsibility, and they were very busy giving Realizations to others and working it out. Otherwise they would not. They could not believe that they have power to give Realization. I may tell them, but they would not raise their hands. And just because the time was there and they thought, "So many people are here, Mother is not coming or She may be coming, so it's our responsibility." In that way they took the responsibility. So when you are beyond the time, you become responsible for that moment. It's such a responsibility which is also collective, means you just all of you become responsible. It's very surprising, we are so many here, there's no quarrel, no fight, nothing. We are very nicely settled down, just beyond all kinds of stupid ideas of attacking each other. That happens because you are not involved with the time. The time cannot bow you down. Perhaps if it were not you people, some other people, they would have thrown stones on My car, thinking, "So it is so late She comes, we are here boiling in the heat." They would have resented. But not the people who are beyond time. They are nicely sitting down, enjoying themselves. It doesn't matter, the time passes on. Then you become dharmatit: you become beyond dharma, beyond your human nature. That means whatever you do is religious, whatever is your endeavor is religious. If, say, you are in a business, you would like to do business in a religious manner, because you are beyond religion you are not bothered as to follow a particular pattern or ritual of any religion, but you are beyond it. Like people who are, you see, not beyond religion: they must get up early in the morning, they are bound by their rituals and they pass through the rituals, and if one of the rituals is not done they are very unhappy and shaken up. But not you. For you, you are always in dhyan, always in meditative mood, and anything goes wrong you just jump into that awareness where you get the solution, and you are not disturbed, not disturbed at all when things go wrong. Like ritualistic nature makes you very constricted, very docile, sometimes can be aggressive also. People with their ritualism trouble others a lot. Like one lady who was supposed to be our friend came to My house. So she said, "I'm a vegetarian." I said, "Then?" "But I can't eat the food in which non-veg. food has been cooked." "All right. So we'll have to get new utensils." So I went and bought new utensils for her. So she said that "You have to be careful that even the spoon should not be used." So I had to go and get for her a spoon. Then she said, "Tumblers; because people are taking food here who are eating non-veg. food, so you better get us something which is absolutely new." So I had to incur all these problems. And then she was in the kitchen and she wouldn't allow our cook to cook anything for us. She said, "First I will cook, and then you can cook." And she made such a nuisance out of her that instead of being a guest she became a pest, and this is what happens to people who are ritualistic, because they are very demanding. They go on demanding that "This is our dharma." I know of another story was told to Me by somebody in Bombay. She said, "This lady who came to me as a guest, because she was related to something very high up, she was worse than my great-great-great-grandmother." I said, "Really?" She said, "I can't understand that in India we have such people still living. She came here and she said, 'I cannot take water from the tap. You have to get it from some sort of a well.' "Now, there are only two wells in Bombay. So people had to go and fetch the water, but the cook had to be completely drenched in water and then only he could cook. "'Because if he cooks without that, then I won't eat.' "And she went on, and on, and on there, and the cook got sick with pneumonia, another cook came and he got flu, you see? This lady didn't mind. "She said, 'No, that's my style.'" So she asked Me, "What should we do with such people, Mother?" I said, "You should have asked her that 'We have this thing. If you like it well and good; otherwise you don't eat, it's all right, good. Fasting is a very good thing.' That's the only solution for such people who are so self-centered and so much bothering others." So this self-centeredness comes to us because we think, "This is our dharma, this is our right, this is - everything belongs to us. How dare they do not do it?" How much we trouble others, how much we make them inconvenient, how much we try to make their lives miserable, we never think. We go on demanding things, "This is my dharma, what can I do? This is what I have to do." But it becomes such a conditioning of the mind that I have seen many cases in Sahaja Yoga who got conditioned like that. There was a lady, French lady who came to Sahaja Yoga, and her mother was very ritualistic to begin with, and she was so troublesome that she must go to church every Sunday. She would dress up well, go to church and come back home. And one day she just disappeared. So they told the police to find out this lady, and when he went to find out the lady, the police said that "We can't find her, God knows where she has disappeared." Then she said, "All right, go and find out in the church." She was still sitting in the church. Next time again she disappeared. It happened three, four times. So the police said, "Sorry, we are finished with her. Now if you want you can put her in the old people's house, and that's all." So they sent her to an old people's house. So this Sahaja Yogini told Me, "Mother, very surprising, they are otherwise very stupid people, they go on sitting, brooding, talking nonsense like mad, they have all become senile and their senility can be very well seen. But what happens that on a Sunday they all dress up well and go to church. That's the only point where they are sane." It is very surprising how the conditioning works. There was one person I had who came and stayed with us, and he said, "I'm very good driver." So I said, "All right." But he only know driving, he didn't know about London, what sort of a place London is. Now he knew the driving very well, but if I had to go to the north, he'll drive Me to the south. If I had to go to the east, he'll drive Me to the west. I said, "What's the matter? You know driving?" "Yes, I know driving, that I know, but I don't know anything about road, I have no road sense." One day the police got hold of him. I was also in the car. He said, "Where are you going?" He said, "I am going to such and such place." So he said, "Now you have been to this place six times. Again you are coming back to the same point six times!" So in the old age I have known that these things form a kind of a habit, but in young age also you can find people get so conditioned by their style. So this is what you can call the human element, where you get attached or get bothered about something. Now it's a kind of a, I should say, a madness that somebody demands this, somebody demands that, "I don't like this, I don't like that." It goes on, and on, and on. It's so common to say "I don't like," "I like." It is very surprising that they go on saying like this. They go to somebody's house, "No, no, I don't like this carpet." I mean, it's not your carpet, you've not purchased it. This person has purchased the carpet. What have you got to do? Why should you say "I don't like"? Who are you? You have not paid for you. The one who has paid likes it, finished! Why do you want to pass your remarks, "I don't like it"? Are you a connoisseur, so to criticize others? Somebody is wearing, supposing, the hairdress in a way, but "I don't like this kind of hairdress." "Why?" "I don't like, that's all." Then it goes from there to human beings and everyone. Who are you to like or dislike? What is your position? Why should you say "I like" or "don't like"? But is very common, specially in the West, to pass such remarks, "I don't like it." "I don't like India." "All right, if you don't like, sit at home. Why did you come here?" "I don't like Turkey." "Why?" Because if supposing anybody is wearing a long skirt, they'll say, "No, I don't like it because it is Turkish." So you should only wear short skirts. But we don't like short skirts, supposing. But one should not say that "I don't like it," because it hurts people, it takes away the pride of the person. Now when you are in Sahaja Yoga you must know that you are not normal human being, according to the normal standards, you see, you are above them. Your likes and dislikes are different from theirs, and your whole attitude has changed. You are, sometimes you are just like children, I have seen. You talk like small little children, very innocently, and sometimes you talk very profound things. Now this is unknown to people who are supposed to be normal, because normal people, you know, they are so bombastic, all the time they go on saying "I, I, I." Kabira has said that when a goat is living, she goes on saying "meh, meh, meh," means "I, I, I." But when she is dead and her intestines are drawn into a kind of a wire for, we call dhunak - means "with which they separate the seeds from the cotton" - that time, what she says, "tu hi, tu hi, tu hi": "you are, you are, you are." "You are everything." When you say that, immediately your attention goes away from others, finding faults with them, finding what's wrong with them, using your brains all the time to criticize others, to make fun of others, sometimes even to talk ill of others. People enjoy gossips. Why? They enjoy gossip because they don't know that another person is the same as myself, and I have no business to gossip about that person. So this understanding, I should say this loving wisdom doesn't exist when you are a normal human being. At the slightest provocation you can get angry, start doing all kinds of things just like a bull in the china shop, you can behave any way. Suddenly you'll find them just growing up into that. The reason for that is, you are not yet a Sahaja Yogi. But Sahaja Yogi is a person who enjoys all kinds of things. Say somebody becomes very angry and hot-tempered. He also sees that what is happening, how he is behaving. So, actually it is not a dharma that you get angry with someone, it's not. It is something very low to be angry with others, to be all the time shouting at others, to be exacting things from others or to criticize others, thinking you are something great. And this doesn't pay. By the time you come to the end of life you'll find you haven't got one friend, one neighbor. Another thing is that when you are very egoistical, you think no end of yourself and you go on talking, jabbering, talking, jabbering, and the another person just gets bored stiff; but still you are talking, talking, talking about yourself, "I did this, I did this, I went there. I, I, I..." It goes to any limit, and you are not ashamed as to what you are saying. I have seen people who have taken to all kinds of funny attitudes towards others, when they are just normal human beings. If somebody says something wrong about somebody, somebody says that "That person is like this, I know, you see he did this way." Immediately it goes into their mind, "Yes, it's so." Now that makes your mind a sick mind, we can say vikrudh, where the mind is not normal. You become sick, and you accept all this sickness and go on accepting it, accepting it till you are a sick person, and this sickness is extremely dangerous. Not for others so much as for yourself, because nobody can stand such a sick personality. Now you might say, I've seen people who have taken to religion. Like now I am a religious person, supposing. Now you better be religious, so what? You can't do this, you can't do that, you cannot sit here, you cannot eat this, this is important: all time to discipline others, instead of disciplining yourself. Because when you are a normal person you don't see yourself, you just see others; but once you are a realized soul, you just start watching yourself and see for yourself what's wrong. Now after becoming the Spirit, in the light of the Spirit you see yourself. You just see yourself. What happens, how you behave and how you enjoy yourself, when you know how to correct yourself. It's very sweet. Little, little things you do in such a beautiful manner, and you'll say such beautiful things. Of course there are people who cannot be corrected, they're incorrigible. So also you should just see this is incorrigible, you can't help it. Like in Sahaja Yoga we have some people who are all the time trying to help the wrong type of people, like they have taken a power of attorney in Sahaja Yoga. So if somebody tries to be funny, we expect a telephone call from that power of attorney. After two hours, he tells, "Now, please tell Mother that such and such person is to be looked after. This has to be done, that has to be done." It's absolutely a habitual thing with them to inform Me that "No, You must help, You must do something." But now it has become such a common practice, and we know that he will just now come along and give us a big lecture on this subject. So you see, it's a nature of a human being which has been going through the different types of complications in life, also born with some genes or something that he is not a very normal person, though we say he's normal; because the way he reacts, the reaction that he shows is very absurd. There's no need for anybody to telephone to Me, to tell Me that "You see, this man is such and such, You better look after him." Unnecessarily to interfere with others' affairs when you have no authority, when you have nothing to do with that person. All sorts of, I can tell you, designs are there that has been made into the minds of human beings, and these designs all disappear, just disappear. I don't know how they get all these designs, from where they get it - maybe their country, maybe their family, maybe their genes - whatever you may say, all this disappears, even your genes change. That is what is Sahaja Yoga, where you become the Spirit; everything changes. And what happens to you, that you become a person who knows what is joy, who enjoys joy, who enjoys existence, who gives joy to others, makes others happy, all the time thinks how to make others happy. Just it happens, though you are brought up the same way as others are, though you are being educated the same way, maybe; but all that disappears and you become a wise, beautiful, joyous person. It's something that you have achieved, of which you may not be aware, the way you are enjoying in this scout-ground. No other group could have enjoyed as you have enjoyed. I can see what you are doing here and how you are enjoying, how you are enjoying the company of others, it's very remarkable; and that has come because your heart is full of joy of the Spirit that shines within you. You can examine yourself and see for yourself whatever I'm saying is there or not. Of course, there are some people who think no end of themself, they are staying in a hotel or some lodge, or something. They are not enjoying. They still think that they are something great, so they must stay somewhere like that. Very surprisingly, specially Indians I have seen, when they come to Cabella they all want to stay in a hotel. In their lives they might be having one bathroom in their house, but when they come to Cabella they want to stay in a hotel with attached bath, with this, with that; young people, it's very surprising. It happens because I think they have never seen a good hotel, or may be that they have lived in a very bad condition. But a person who is a Sahaja Yogi can live anywhere, can sleep anywhere. Only thing is that his Spirit is there to make him happy, nothing else. That is the One that gives you happiness. All these other ideas that human beings have, which have created problems after problems. Now you see, because you belong to a different religion, you are bad. If you want to know about the Christians, you'd better go and ask the Jews; and if you want to know about the Jews, better go and ask the Muslims; and if you want to know about the Muslims, go and ask the Hindus. You'll be amazed how they talk about other people as if all of them are bad, and they are the best. So this whole attitude changes completely. You forget it: who is what, whose religion is what, from what sort of family they come in, from what is the background they are coming in. They become just one with each other. What they enjoy is the company of all the Sahaja Yogis. All the Sahaja Yogis are there, that's all. So many Sahaja Yogis will be there, and that is the Mecca, that is the Kumbha Mela, that you can call anything if you like. The collective joy that you enjoy has come to you because you have crossed, crossed that barrier which has stopped you from seeing the truth. The truth is, as I said yesterday, that you are the Spirit, and once you become the Spirit you become gunatit, kalatit and dharmatit. Once you cross these limits, then you become like a drop in the ocean. If the drop is outside the ocean, it's always frightened of the sun because it will dry it up; he doesn't know what to do, which way to slip, which way to move. But once it is one with the ocean, it just moves and enjoy because he's not alone, it's not alone. It's moving with the waves of that beautiful ocean of joy. And that is what you have achieved, of which you are aware; you know, but you don't know you have achieved it, because you are the Spirit. Now you should be on the watch about yourself sometimes, and you'd be amazed to see how you are changed, how you have become so simple and sensible and wise. So many problems come in the West because they are still stupid, I think, very stupid people. Because even an old man of eighty years would like to marry a lady of, say, twenty years, and he doesn't understand why he is doing it, because he doesn't accept his age, he doesn't accept that "I am an old man, I must behave like an old man." He wants to marry a girl who can be his granddaughter. This is more common in the West. They always think like that. Any young girl they see, they think they should marry that girl. They may be just on their way to the grave, but doesn't matter, they want to have a wife like that. This is the problem of the West. Now how does it come? Because they don't understand that we are old, and to be old is to be proud. Now when I was five years, I cannot imagine so many people could have come to wish Me a happy birthday. Even when I was fifty years there were not so many people. Now when I am seventy-five, see how many people are there to wish Me happy birthday! When you are old you should be proud of your age, if you have lived wisely; but if you have been stupid, then of course nobody can help. Everybody will laugh at such a person, but they will do the same thing. It's a custom in the West to go on having wives after wives, divorcing your wife and this, that. In India it's the other way round I should say, they don't have much respect for the women. They were supposed to have great respect for women, they were supposed to have placed their women at the pedestal of a sati, and even if the woman may be anything, they don't respect. Now this is from where it has come, I don't know. Some of them say that it is written by some poet that a woman should be beaten up. I mean, who is this poet? He should be beaten up I think, first of all. He was born out of a woman, and here he writes like this. So you see, we like to take up something which is wrong, which is absolutely absurd. This comes because you are not wise. A wise person will take in whatever is the wisdom. He won't accept anything nonsensical. You go on reading the books one after another, one after another. So many books you read, and where do you land up with that? You find you are reading books which are no good for you, useless, but if you are fond of reading, you go on reading. So the lack of wisdom gives you indiscrimination and you justify it, all that you justify and you say, "Now this is very good. Whatever I am doing is the best." It's not ego, I would say, but stupid human understanding. "Whatever I am doing is good. Whatever is my attitude is good. How dare anybody tell me anything that this is wrong, that is wrong?" Everybody will laugh at that person, make fun of that person. Such a person will suffer a lot, everything. But he will never accept that "I have done something wrong." So when you go beyond dharmatit you become, go beyond dharma, then what happens that dharma becomes part and parcel of you. You don't do wrong things, you just don't do it. It's not that somebody is telling you or you want to follow it, or there is compulsion or you are disciplined, but you just don't like to do wrong things, to say something which is not respectful, which is not helpful, which is not loving. This is the quality of a Sahaja Yogi, where you become the Spirit. Becoming the Spirit, you don't have to tell anybody, so obvious, so evident and one can see that, and the more you go deep into yourself, you find that you are endowed with such greatness within you, such beautiful feelings, such nice things within you that you overcome the ego of others. I must tell you a story. Once I went to see a saint. So the Sahaja Yogis said, "Mother, You never go and see these gurus and this and that, so why do You go?" I said, "You come along with Me." So we had to climb a lot. I said, "From here you see his vibrations. First you see his vibrations." So lots of vibrations were coming. So we went up the hill, climbed up. And this gentleman was supposed to have powers that he could control the rain, and it started raining, and raining very heavily, and I got completely drenched in that rain. When I went up I saw him sitting on a stone, just shaking his head with anger or I don't know what. So I went into his cave and sat down. So he came back, he came back and he said to Me, "Mother, why didn't You allow me to stop the rain? Is it to overcome my ego?" I said, "No, not that, I didn't want, I didn't see your ego anywhere; but the problem is the another. You are a sanyasi, you are a one who are an ascetic, you bought a sari for Me. Now if you bought a sari for Me, I can't take from you because you're a sanyasi. So I had to get drenched, so that I will have to borrow sari from you." And the whole thing melted away. He became a very different person. So with wisdom you know how to handle different types of people. You say things by which you melt their ego. Their conditionings also are brought into a kind of a new awakening. They see in you that wisdom, that love, that expression of, I should say, your Spirit. And that's how so many saints, though they were tortured and troubled by many, but they were definitely very much respected and loved. But those saints in those days, I must say, were definitely very nice and good people, but one thing was there: they were rather strict and disciplining with their disciples. The reason was that they were not realized souls, their disciples, and these gurus thought that "Unless and until you discipline these people, they'll never rise, they'll never become something great, so they have to be disciplined." And those who were seekers of truth accepted that "All right, whatever you say, we'll do. Even if you ask us to fast, we'll do it." They'll stand on their heads, "All right, stand on our heads. Do what you say, and we will be willing to do it. You don't have to worry on that point." And that's how they were very disciplining type. But in Sahaja Yoga there is no discipline taught. The reason is, you are realized souls, your Spirit is there and the Spirit gives you the light. In that light you see yourself so clearly, and you can discipline yourself. I don't have to tell you. You know that so many people have given up drugs overnight, but I never told them, I never even talked about drugs or anything, and how did they do it? Because they had the light, and this is what is you have got today, is the light of the Spirit. You become absolutely independent and absolutely free; complete freedom, because you have the light. You cannot do, you cannot do wrong things. Supposing now there is light, and there is some sort of a big explosion taking place. I won't run towards the explosion, no. You won't run either, because you have got the eyes. So the Spirit and its light is the greatest guiding factor by which you become, as I said, gunatit, you become kalatit, and you become dharmatit. You are not slave of anything. You are not slave of your watch, you are not slave of time, you are not slave as to what is your gunas are. You don't want to see whether you are right-sided, left-sided or centered. You are a Sahaja Yogi, and a Sahaja Yogi is beyond all these things, so you are gunatit. You are dharmatit because dharma becomes part and parcel of you. You don't have to follow any disciplining of dharma. I have seen in Sahaja Yoga, in some of the ashrams they are very strict. That should not be so. I have told them never to be strict. If somebody doesn't get up at, say, four o'clock, doesn't matter. Let him get up at ten o'clock. After some time he himself will get up at four, but don't try to discipline them too much. Children also you should not discipline too much. Of course if they are realized souls, they themselves are so good, they are so beautiful. But if they are not, try to give them Realization. Once you realize that those who are not realized are making all these mistakes, that they are in the darkness, your attitude towards them will change. You will just try to be extremely patient and kind, and affectionate and loving, because you will know that person is not realized. He has not got his eyes, he can't see, he is blind, he can't hear, he can't feel the reality. So first let him feel the reality. What is the use of giving him a lecture and disciplining? Still he'll go on making mistakes and troubling himself, or troubling others. So this is what you have achieved through your enlightenment, that you are beyond all these things. And you become a person of a temperament which is so loving and so joy-giving. I mean, it's so many examples I can give in Sahaja Yoga which has happened, that I have seen the beauty of their love and affection, not only towards Me, but only towards others also. Only if it is only towards Me I can explain it, but I can't explain the way they are kind to people, as I told you yesterday, that these people went to Israel, now they went to Egypt, they went to Russia. Who told them? I never asked anybody to go anywhere. On their own they felt they have to go and do this job, and they have to help people to get out of their ignorance. So today, on such a day when you are celebrating My seventy-fifth Birthday, and so many balloons are there - they are very remarkably, very picturesque and have colors of different types, expressing your love for Me. In everything I see your love. Whatever you have done here, all your decorations, everything, I feel My children are so loving. I have done nothing for you, I don't know what makes you feel such gratitude. I still want to know, what have I done? I have done nothing! But the way you want to express your love, it's very surprising; except for, I would say, that you got the light of your Spirit. In that light, might be you see something different in Me, but the way you are showing your gratitude is really beyond Me. As the other day, one of the speakers said that "You don't thank your mother, take her for granted." It's a fact. There's no need to thank Me, you have to take Me for granted. But the way you want to thank Me, just like a small little child would like to thank, you just become like children. You're so enthusiastic about it, and you don't understand that normally is not done like this anywhere; nobody tries to be just like children expressing their beautiful love. It's a very new thing that one can see. Such peace, such love, such joy all around in a far-fetched place like this, how could you do that? How could you manage that? It's not easy to understand, it's not for human beings to see that. They just don't understand how these people are like this, and why are they living like this so happily? Now you have comforts in the house, you are living so well in your houses, everything is there, but here in this scout-ground it's not such a comfortable place to live. But you can live anywhere, I know, I have seen it. Wherever you are, as long as there are Sahaja Yogis around, you don't care for anything. And this collective enjoyment of each other, without any expectation, without any criticism, without any gossip or any nonsense like that, is so beautiful. And even when you pull each other's legs, you know, I enjoy your jokes and understand that it's such friendship, such beautiful friendship. Whether you are from India or from England or from America, or from any other place, you find there's such oneness of understanding, oneness of movement, like one waves rises and another wave rises, and another wave rises. It's continuous, eternal, and this is what one has to achieve for others also. For that also, must remember that you have the light; others don't have. So you have to be very considerate, tolerant and understanding about their problem, and just listen to them. What is their problem? First they'll tell you that "My business is going down," or they might say that "My wife is no good," or "My son has no job, he is not working." All kinds of things they might tell you. Listen, listen to them, for them it is important, all right. After that you will find gradually, you see, they'll soothe down because you are emitting love, you are emitting joy, you are emitting confidence through your spiritual awakening. You have those powers. You just stand anywhere and you can create peace in that place, you can create happiness in that place. So be confident, don't lose your confidence. Also your wisdom to understand others will be very much convincing for other people to understand that "They are something exceptional. They don't get angry, they don't get into temper, they are not mad people, they are not after some sort of a craze - just very, very balanced people." And this you don't have to practice. It is there. It is within you, and you should be proud of it. You should not think that it is something that you have to achieve, or to become. You have it, within yourself you have it. Only thing that you have to see in the light of the Spirit yourself. It just is a very simple thing, and that works out. It is not easy for others to understand you, but it should be very easy to understand them; because you were like that before, and now they are seeing you and they will become like you. It's very simple. You can see this, that I started Sahaja Yoga with one lady. And now today, see how many are there. Now what have I done, I really don't know, what have I done? I have no idea. And what you think, such gratitude and enjoyment and joy! So all these things, whatever I have told you, you have to be aware of your being, of your own Self, of your Spirit, that you are the Spirit. And as you are the Spirit, you are beyond all these things. And once that happens, you'll be amazed what a personality you are. (Shri Mataji continues in Hindi) [Translation from Hindi] Today I spoke in English, because most of the time I speak to you in Hindi. But whatever I have spoken to them, I am sure you must have understood. What has been said is, that when the light of the Spirit spreads inside you, then three attributes get awakened within you. As you know, within you , you have three gunas (constituents of Nature) – Tamo Guna, Rajo Guna and Satya Guna. Those who are Tamo Gunis have a style of their own. Rajo Gunis have their own style. And when they feel the tedium and aversion of their pursuits; they enter into the area of Sattwa Guna (search or seeking for the truth). And then one feels, that I must stop these useless pursuits and look beyond. When you enter the state of Satwa Guna, then your search starts. And when you achieve what you are searching, then you go beyond all these three states. That is when a person is recognized as Gunateet (beyond the gunas); Kalateet (beyond time); and Dharmateet (beyond Dharmas). They do not have any particular Dharma. Whatever he does, is Dharmic in itself. He cannot do anything adharmic (against dharma). His very nature, Swabhav – (Swa means the spirit, bhava means nature of the spirit), becomes swayam, the Self. It becomes like this – that he experiences a special kind of self existence, a special kind of peace; and a special state of being. Then he becomes a special personality, the giver of peace, happiness, and joy, to everyone who comes into contact with him. It may happen sometimes that the love you are giving people, is not understood by them. They might misuse it. It can happen. But it does not upset you. You just feel, he is still ignorant. He is not able to understand. He lacks proper understanding. You don’t comment on his shortcomings. You just watch; and think, that maybe later he will improve. Because you realize that at one time you were also like this, and now you are standing at a higher level. Tomorrow he will also come into our fold. Now you are so many. Shri Jesus only had twelve disciples. And they made so many, many, Christians. Nobody gave anybody realization, but they made them Christians. You people can give realization. This is the work you all have to do now. That whomever you see, just give them realization. All questions and doubts will disappear, and a new kind of ambition will arise within you. A very unique manvantar, (evolved species) is starting to emerge. (Punar Utthan ka bela), the Age of Resurrection has come. With this, a transformation of human beings has to happen. It is most necessary. Otherwise the problems of human beings can never be corrected and solved. There has to be a transformation. And when he is transformed, he will become so auspicious and beautiful. And the auspiciousness of every aspect of his life, enters the environment and dances. In order to achieve such a beautiful and auspicious life, you do not have to do anything. You don’t have to pay for it, or labour for it. Nothing to be done. Just awaken the sleeping energy within, maintain the awakened state and enjoy. There are so many deep people in Sahaja Yoga, and I Myself am amazed at seeing this. That how did they take this profound depth into their lives so fast. Actually this depth was already there within them. But they were in darkness. Now, when they have entered the Light, they have become enlightened, beautiful, and auspicious. What can I say about all this! There is a great aandolan (upheaval) in My Heart, that whatever powers there are in the entire Brahmand (Creation), you should achieve all of it. All these powers that the Rishis and Munis (sages and saints) of old had achieved, may you also achieve that. And achieve them, even while you live a normal life. Today is a very Shubh Divas (auspicious day), and you have celebrated it with so much joy. Like little children you have given Me so much love. What can I say. I just cannot find words. It is actually too much, too much! And to fully understand and absorb it, is going to be very difficult. That why have you bestowed so much love on Me. What have I done for you. I am just not able to fathom it. I have not done anything great for you. This is your love which has grown and grown, and reached this stage. All I can say to you is, keep growing in this way and keep taking others along with you. They should also experience this happiness and joy. May they all become a part of this process, where a special and unique personality is emerging. My eternal Blessings.

3/22/1998

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Evening Program, 75th Birthday Celebrations - New Delhi (India) Sunday, March 22nd 1998 [Transcription starts at 2:27:47 of video] I really don’t know what to say but always after a program, I try to say something about it. Firstly, the first gentleman who was here - Jagganath Mishra – I must say, he brought all the atmosphere of Indian sweet culture in the villages very beautifully. For example, I’ve seen that only in India, poets have described the mischief of the children, the walking of the children – their gait, their style, their...every little bit of it. But nowhere in any country, I’ve seen, children have been described so sweetly, small little children, how they walk, how they fall and how they do mischiefs, but this is Indian speciality. That is our literature, all over you’ll find poetry describing the play of Shri Krishna, maybe of Shri Rama and all kinds of things... wonderful. Even there was a Christian gentleman who got converted, he also has written a beautiful poem about Christ’s childhood, but I haven’t seen anywhere in the literature, in the Christian community or Christian people, that they have described Christ as a child – how he was, how he looked, how he walked. It’s very interesting, and that’s what I felt today when there he was describing the... swing that we have for this season – we call it as the Vasanta, means the ...as the Spring - very bad at translation. So the spring, you see during springtime in India in the villages, they put up big, big long swings and... under the trees, the mango trees. You see, it’s so beautifully described all these things. This is another thing of Indian literature where they do not describe only the love affairs - you see this one point. Also, describe the relationship with others and with nature and how the whole community is playing the Holi maybe or this swinging and all that... so beautifully described. I wish some of the Sahaja Yogis could take to that now and when they write their poems or they get into literature, they write about the children – how they walk, how they are mischievous, how they fall down. It's a very sweet thing and makes life much sweeter with all these things. Also about nature, wherein the nature people have gone – not for just a picnic or anything – but just to enjoy nature. It would be a very good idea and that would really show that you have imbibed some of the suggestions – or we can say, descriptions – of Indian life. It was very sweet, you know. I really enjoyed his style of describing village life. It is so sweet and shows how people love each other and express their love. There’s no carnal love, nothing of the kind, but very pure love between say Yeshodaji and Radha ...I was surprised how it was described so well. So he brought out through his shehnai – he’s a master, I must say of shehnai... such a shehnai I have never heard before, I must say – it was great and what a find. [audience applauds] Atcha... Then you know Ajit Kadkade. ... he has been always coming and singing songs and describing about various things Today he sang Marathi songs - whether it is Marathi or Hindi, is just the same to you, so makes no difference. But in Marathi songs, also the mood is very different from Hindi songs because he was singing, you know, one song very sweetly about Shri Krishna. He stands with His leg, you see, crossed ... so he said this langla – means ‘a lame fellow’ – how can he be God? What sort of a god it is? Very sweet. The whole description was very sw... sweet and at the same time, it started raining so, you see, it’s an indication that now it’s cooled down, you see... it has to cool down, and the way it all related - you understand so many things happen in Sahaja Yoga because they're connected. You have heard his songs before and he is a very... very sensitive person and he feels for all of you – he himself is a Sahaj Yogi and he has written many poems on Sahaja Yoga. Today he didn't sing them except for Brahma Shodhile. Now the third one I enjoyed very much was the dance. I always admire Kuchipudi the best because it has power, where they express all their feelings very clearly, very sweetly, everybody can understand. And also they have the footwork and all that - you have seen how she worked on that thali and how she danced. So these are all the techniques of Indian dancing which is different from, I should say western dancing but as many Indians have learnt western dancing, you can also learn Indian dancing, you see it’s not difficult. And there are some Russian girls who are learning Indian dancing in Russia. I was surprised that, to see they are learning there. But it’s very easy to understand Kuchipudi, that’s the easiest thing to understand because it’s very expressive. So I’m very happy to see her dance like this, and she’s a Sahaja yogini, her husband is a Sahaja yogi who is a filmmaker, can you imagine? Such a simple man like him. So it was a very high standard program, I must say because I never expected one after another such nice program coming up and, after her dance, we had you, people, here. I have heard you separately - not together so many – when there are people I know, they are from different countries, I know them. I have heard them separately as I say. But I have never heard them together and your music, it has to be done collectively. Sometimes you hear the individual play, but it has to be collective with the composer’s things before you and it is to be done in a very meticulous manner. Extremely meticulous. I was surprised some Indians got up and went out, but if you go to any hall in the west for a concert or anything like that or [UNCLEAR] or anything - you are not even supposed to [cough?] so much respect is to be given. But for Indian music, you can walk about, talk to people - nobody minds that - because perhaps people are very liberal but I think that one must respect - respect the artist and the art otherwise art won’t grow. So now we have here some very nice musicians. I was surprised that none of them made any mistakes: that’s the best part of it though they were coming from different countries, and they did it so well and with such speed and understanding. I wanted them to play this Binati Suniye because, in India, we don't have any notation, can you imagine? We don't have any... composers. Only thing is we have to go through rigorous... training, rigorous training for at least, I don’t know, I used to think that it’s at least twenty years or thirty years but nowadays I find the western people get it in three years – something special about them – and after that only, they can start singing with their own originality, with their own expressions. They don’t need. They themselves are composers as if they know the whole knowledge – how to build up, how are the melodies are, ragas are, how far to go, how to express – and they are left to themselves to do it. Now there's a rapport between the audience and between them so that rapport works and they know how to play. This is another style - I would say both styles are all right. There’s nothing wrong in any style or another style, but for Indian style, you have to go into rigorous training and if there are people who are [UNCLEAR] sitting here, then it can be found out that you are making mistake, you are doing this... But normally it is very enjoyable in the same way as your music is. You had composers and composers and they are different, different types of people – we couldn’t play all of them today – but perhaps I like all of them very much and I enjoy western music equally the same as Indian music as well as south Indian music. I... music is music. I mean, I don’t understand that this music is superior, that music is superior – there’s nothing like that. They’re all different types of music and, only thing is you must have a sensitive ear to enjoy it. One’s enjoyment is abstract – it is not according to the country, according to any style or anything. Everywhere music has developed and we should learn to appreciate, to enjoy every type of music. I am very happy and thankful for the way you have played your orchestra, it was really remarkable. I never thought that you all would join together like this – though I’ve heard Austria is very good and also Romania is very good, they have so many good musicians there. But for Indians, it’s a treat because they have never heard Mozart, I think – very few people must have heard him. Of course, he was a great master, no doubt. Vivaldi, Verdi... all of them, tremendous people no doubt. But I had a chance to go abroad and I had a liking for music so I could hear them. It’s a chance, a great chance for Indians here to hear all these great composers, so thank you very much for that.

Evening Program, 75th Birthday Celebrations - New Delhi (India) Sunday, March 22nd 1998 [Transcription starts at 2:27:47 of video] I really don’t know what to say but always after a program, I try to say something about it. Firstly, the first gentleman who was here - Jagganath Mishra – I must say, he brought all the atmosphere of Indian sweet culture in the villages very beautifully. For example, I’ve seen that only in India, poets have described the mischief of the children, the walking of the children – their gait, their style, their...every little bit of it. But nowhere in any country, I’ve seen, children have been described so sweetly, small little children, how they walk, how they fall and how they do mischiefs, but this is Indian speciality. That is our literature, all over you’ll find poetry describing the play of Shri Krishna, maybe of Shri Rama and all kinds of things... wonderful. Even there was a Christian gentleman who got converted, he also has written a beautiful poem about Christ’s childhood, but I haven’t seen anywhere in the literature, in the Christian community or Christian people, that they have described Christ as a child – how he was, how he looked, how he walked. It’s very interesting, and that’s what I felt today when there he was describing the... swing that we have for this season – we call it as the Vasanta, means the ...as the Spring - very bad at translation. So the spring, you see during springtime in India in the villages, they put up big, big long swings and... under the trees, the mango trees. You see, it’s so beautifully described all these things. This is another thing of Indian literature where they do not describe only the love affairs - you see this one point. Also, describe the relationship with others and with nature and how the whole community is playing the Holi maybe or this swinging and all that... so beautifully described. I wish some of the Sahaja Yogis could take to that now and when they write their poems or they get into literature, they write about the children – how they walk, how they are mischievous, how they fall down. It's a very sweet thing and makes life much sweeter with all these things. Also about nature, wherein the nature people have gone – not for just a picnic or anything – but just to enjoy nature. It would be a very good idea and that would really show that you have imbibed some of the suggestions – or we can say, descriptions – of Indian life. It was very sweet, you know. I really enjoyed his style of describing village life. It is so sweet and shows how people love each other and express their love. There’s no carnal love, nothing of the kind, but very pure love between say Yeshodaji and Radha ...I was surprised how it was described so well. So he brought out through his shehnai – he’s a master, I must say of shehnai... such a shehnai I have never heard before, I must say – it was great and what a find. [audience applauds] Atcha... Then you know Ajit Kadkade. ... he has been always coming and singing songs and describing about various things Today he sang Marathi songs - whether it is Marathi or Hindi, is just the same to you, so makes no difference. But in Marathi songs, also the mood is very different from Hindi songs because he was singing, you know, one song very sweetly about Shri Krishna. He stands with His leg, you see, crossed ... so he said this langla – means ‘a lame fellow’ – how can he be God? What sort of a god it is? Very sweet. The whole description was very sw... sweet and at the same time, it started raining so, you see, it’s an indication that now it’s cooled down, you see... it has to cool down, and the way it all related - you understand so many things happen in Sahaja Yoga because they're connected. You have heard his songs before and he is a very... very sensitive person and he feels for all of you – he himself is a Sahaj Yogi and he has written many poems on Sahaja Yoga. Today he didn't sing them except for Brahma Shodhile. Now the third one I enjoyed very much was the dance. I always admire Kuchipudi the best because it has power, where they express all their feelings very clearly, very sweetly, everybody can understand. And also they have the footwork and all that - you have seen how she worked on that thali and how she danced. So these are all the techniques of Indian dancing which is different from, I should say western dancing but as many Indians have learnt western dancing, you can also learn Indian dancing, you see it’s not difficult. And there are some Russian girls who are learning Indian dancing in Russia. I was surprised that, to see they are learning there. But it’s very easy to understand Kuchipudi, that’s the easiest thing to understand because it’s very expressive. So I’m very happy to see her dance like this, and she’s a Sahaja yogini, her husband is a Sahaja yogi who is a filmmaker, can you imagine? Such a simple man like him. So it was a very high standard program, I must say because I never expected one after another such nice program coming up and, after her dance, we had you, people, here. I have heard you separately - not together so many – when there are people I know, they are from different countries, I know them. I have heard them separately as I say. But I have never heard them together and your music, it has to be done collectively. Sometimes you hear the individual play, but it has to be collective with the composer’s things before you and it is to be done in a very meticulous manner. Extremely meticulous. I was surprised some Indians got up and went out, but if you go to any hall in the west for a concert or anything like that or [UNCLEAR] or anything - you are not even supposed to [cough?] so much respect is to be given. But for Indian music, you can walk about, talk to people - nobody minds that - because perhaps people are very liberal but I think that one must respect - respect the artist and the art otherwise art won’t grow. So now we have here some very nice musicians. I was surprised that none of them made any mistakes: that’s the best part of it though they were coming from different countries, and they did it so well and with such speed and understanding. I wanted them to play this Binati Suniye because, in India, we don't have any notation, can you imagine? We don't have any... composers. Only thing is we have to go through rigorous... training, rigorous training for at least, I don’t know, I used to think that it’s at least twenty years or thirty years but nowadays I find the western people get it in three years – something special about them – and after that only, they can start singing with their own originality, with their own expressions. They don’t need. They themselves are composers as if they know the whole knowledge – how to build up, how are the melodies are, ragas are, how far to go, how to express – and they are left to themselves to do it. Now there's a rapport between the audience and between them so that rapport works and they know how to play. This is another style - I would say both styles are all right. There’s nothing wrong in any style or another style, but for Indian style, you have to go into rigorous training and if there are people who are [UNCLEAR] sitting here, then it can be found out that you are making mistake, you are doing this... But normally it is very enjoyable in the same way as your music is. You had composers and composers and they are different, different types of people – we couldn’t play all of them today – but perhaps I like all of them very much and I enjoy western music equally the same as Indian music as well as south Indian music. I... music is music. I mean, I don’t understand that this music is superior, that music is superior – there’s nothing like that. They’re all different types of music and, only thing is you must have a sensitive ear to enjoy it. One’s enjoyment is abstract – it is not according to the country, according to any style or anything. Everywhere music has developed and we should learn to appreciate, to enjoy every type of music. I am very happy and thankful for the way you have played your orchestra, it was really remarkable. I never thought that you all would join together like this – though I’ve heard Austria is very good and also Romania is very good, they have so many good musicians there. But for Indians, it’s a treat because they have never heard Mozart, I think – very few people must have heard him. Of course, he was a great master, no doubt. Vivaldi, Verdi... all of them, tremendous people no doubt. But I had a chance to go abroad and I had a liking for music so I could hear them. It’s a chance, a great chance for Indians here to hear all these great composers, so thank you very much for that.

3/25/1998

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Evening Program, 75th Birthday Celebrations Talk starts at: 2:43:56. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi: “It was a real feast, isn’t it? And also your guitar from the West has been so well managed for Indian music. In the guitars as you play you cannot create melody because it breaks all the time, but with this one, you see, how it was created, just like sarod, I would say. Now, Mister [SOUNDS LIKE Butt]’s Guru and his Guru’s Guru I have met [SOUNDS LIKE alone] in [SOUNDS LIKE Khazan]. Not only I’ve heard him - very good at [SOUNDS LIKE pakwadzji]. And also, what I see, the sarod, sarod also in him has come from the same. [SOUNDS LIKE Myer] style, you see. This is sarod style. The way he played was just like a sarod. To make this into a sarod is really creditable, I must say. So you can see the depth and the greatness of Indian music. You see, how they must have worked hard, how many years they must have spent. And the young gentleman on the tabla wala, the tabla wala and his Guru [SOUNDS LIKE Kishan] Maharaj, I have heard him many a time. His style is just like [SOUNDS LIKE Kishan] Maharaj. He reminds me of [SOUNDS LIKE Kishan] Maharaj. Very nice person, [SOUNDS LIKE Kishan] Maharaj was and such a… such a master of talas, you see, you don’t know we had very-very great people in this country and I am very happy to know that they have donated their art to younger people. And they are developing it, because it’s a music which you cannot just learn like that, you have to go into a very rigorous training and a very devoted life. Otherwise you cannot master this, it’s a very, very deep and very, ah… I should say, divine. You can see in the Divinity how it is expressed through Indian music. [CUT IN THE VIDEO] But for this music you have to have a proper, deep education. To work very hard and those who are listeners also must know it’s just a rapport of Divine feelings between the players and the listeners. I mean, I am so enthralled by all this. I am trying to do at this age whatever is possible to enshrine this great music because for divine life you need this kind of deep music. Just like yours, like Mozart and other people we have. But they are gone, finished. But still Indian music is continuing. I am very happy about it, I am thankful to these young artists that they have taken up this Indian music so seriously, have worked so hard and have brought that traditional thing back. Otherwise, I was thinking is going to die out or what’s the… Luckily, now we have an academy also and I am sure it will be revived and it will create more and more artists in India and also abroad. Alright? May God bless you.” [CUT IN THE VIDEO] Talk continues at: 2:47:57. Seventh Day 26.03.1998 Sir Chandrika Prasad Srivastava: -- “Dear Sahaja Yogis and Sahaja Yoginis, can you hear me? Yeah. We have been celebrating an event of momentous importance for entire humanity, the birth of your Holy Mother, Shri Mataji, seventy-five years ago. In effect, we are celebrating something which needs to be appreciated and understood. Before Her, there have been Incarnations, they have given to this Earth excellent religions and these religions aimed at bringing humanity to civilized existence, to existence according to ethical standards. So we have these different religions growing up in different places, getting different followers but, over a period of time, instead of uniting all of them, they began to separate them, as if there are compartments. And you had tensions in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. There was a great need for a new Incarnation to come and to lift the humanity to a higher level of spirituality and that is why Shri Mataji has come to this Earth and She has taken birth here. Seemingly, it may appear to be an impossible task. How do you do that? And initially, that was what the blind did not see how would Shri Mataji succeed in Her mission? But if you see what you see here today and if you hear what you have heard today, is this not already a new world in existence? And it is Her world which has come into being. We are now talking of Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs all being brothers and sisters. The possibility of me, a born Hindu, worshipping in a Mosque, why not? Or in a Church, why not? Or in a [SOUNDS LIKE Gurdwara], why not? Every place of worship is for everybody. And that is what Sahaja Yoga is. Sahaja Yoga lifts humanity to a very much higher level of spiritual existence. Now, this is Her mission and She began that mission twenty-eight years ago with great difficulty. I think we must all recognize and recall She has single-handedly brought about a tremendous revolution in humanity. I narrated you the other day of one, one event, twenty-five years ago, where She got hold of a young man who was almost dying and brought her home. Did She ask him ‘What is your religion?’ No. Did She ask him ‘What is your language?’ No. Did She ask him ‘What is your race?’ No. He was a human being and She brought that human being home, treated her with Sahaja Yoga and treated her with that powerful emotion: love. Selfless love, love of a mother. And very soon, this boy, who was a drunkard, who was given to drugs and all that goes with it, he got transformed. So that is how She begun, Herself, individually looking after one person or a group of persons. You saw Mister Grégoire, he came here as a U.N. diplomat. He also had come to our [SOUNDS LIKE Exeter] house. He was a young man, brilliant young man, but in search of truth. He stayed with us for two days and went back a realized soul. And now he has been one of the pillars of the Sahaja Yoga movement. So that is why, how She, your Holy Mother, has step by step, human being by human being, built up Sahaja Yoga and now we see thousands sitting here and a million or more around the world. That is Her achievement. Now, what is the message that you have to carry from here? We have been celebrating, I think this has been a most memorable event, it has been an elevating event, but what message will you carry from here? That’s very important. And the message that you carry from here to the wider world is Sahaja Yoga, now, has to engulf the whole world. It has to spread everywhere, it has to come to every human being, every human being has to be uplifted and if you carry that message, then I have no doubt that, with the blessing of Shri Mataji, that will succeed. When we meet again, to celebrate Her eightieth birthday, probably it will be not a million strong, will be two hundred millions strong and why not? And while we celebrate a hundred years of our existence, there will be five billions Sahaja Yogis in this world. I owe a tremendous gratitude to Her, She has been my wife for fifty-one years, She has looked after me with tremendous love and care and affection. Once She was in Australia. From there She rang up my cook in London giving instructions as to which vegetables he should prepare for me and how. That is a wife. She is a mother of my daughters and your Mother. She has looked after not only us, but all of you with the same love. She has never distinguished between Her children and any other children. Every child to Her is Her own child. How can I express adequately my personal gratitude to Her? Except just say ‘I love you’. Well, we wish Her eternal life, She has an eternal responsibility and I know that that is your prayer and when I go back from here I will convey to Her what you want me to convey, your love, your prayers for Her good health, for Her long life, for Her happiness. Now, coming down from the Divine to mundane life, this function has been organized exceedingly well and we began with a function where a number of important people came and addressed the gathering and they expressed their bewilderment, that was the word used by Mister [UNCLEAR], the [UNCLEAR] of Finance minister. Yes, people are bewildered, they just cannot believe their eyes, they cannot understand how human beings who quarrel outside this world are just in love with each other. When they go back, they go back amazed, stunned and they do not know how it has happened. Gradually, it will [UNCLEAR]. Now, all these persons spoke so well, so highly and we must be very, very grateful to them. I think that day Shri Yogi Mahajan who is not here has played a very big role, he was the master of ceremonies. Rajesh Shah is not here, he was responsible for bringing you a number of them. But that was a moment when this political leaders begun to see where they were deficient and where your Mother was creating a new model for them to follow, to uphold and follow. Then, we have had marvellous music program. Music is spiritual. It lifts you up. And music has been a very important integral part of Sahaja Yoga movement. And here I would like to thank and to congratulate Baba, I call him Baba because he is my [UNCLEAR], but he has played a wonderful role in getting music together, in organizing this and let’s give him a big hand. Apart from music, a function of this kind, a celebration of this magnitude - please do sit down -, of this magnitude requires a tremendous amount of organization. I know some international conferences have been organized for two thousands persons, three thousands persons and I assure you they were not even half as well-done as this has been organized here. And there are many, many who have joined hands, many Sahaja Yogis from Delhi and outside and to all of them I would like to express my gratitude. The Yuva Shakti, they have been exceedingly, excessively busy and very, very helpful, played a great role. The caterer, he has produced excellent food. Everyone must combine. But there’s always a master mind behind all this. Please don’t believe that these things happen so automatically. There’s someone behind this and that someone is Mister [SOUNDS LIKE Nargilkar]. I’ll request him to come along.” [CUT IN THE VIDEO] So, once again, Shri Nirmala Mataji Ki? Jay! Ki? Jay! Ki? Jay! Thank you. God bless you. Thank you.

Evening Program, 75th Birthday Celebrations Talk starts at: 2:43:56. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi: “It was a real feast, isn’t it? And also your guitar from the West has been so well managed for Indian music. In the guitars as you play you cannot create melody because it breaks all the time, but with this one, you see, how it was created, just like sarod, I would say. Now, Mister [SOUNDS LIKE Butt]’s Guru and his Guru’s Guru I have met [SOUNDS LIKE alone] in [SOUNDS LIKE Khazan]. Not only I’ve heard him - very good at [SOUNDS LIKE pakwadzji]. And also, what I see, the sarod, sarod also in him has come from the same. [SOUNDS LIKE Myer] style, you see. This is sarod style. The way he played was just like a sarod. To make this into a sarod is really creditable, I must say. So you can see the depth and the greatness of Indian music. You see, how they must have worked hard, how many years they must have spent. And the young gentleman on the tabla wala, the tabla wala and his Guru [SOUNDS LIKE Kishan] Maharaj, I have heard him many a time. His style is just like [SOUNDS LIKE Kishan] Maharaj. He reminds me of [SOUNDS LIKE Kishan] Maharaj. Very nice person, [SOUNDS LIKE Kishan] Maharaj was and such a… such a master of talas, you see, you don’t know we had very-very great people in this country and I am very happy to know that they have donated their art to younger people. And they are developing it, because it’s a music which you cannot just learn like that, you have to go into a very rigorous training and a very devoted life. Otherwise you cannot master this, it’s a very, very deep and very, ah… I should say, divine. You can see in the Divinity how it is expressed through Indian music. [CUT IN THE VIDEO] But for this music you have to have a proper, deep education. To work very hard and those who are listeners also must know it’s just a rapport of Divine feelings between the players and the listeners. I mean, I am so enthralled by all this. I am trying to do at this age whatever is possible to enshrine this great music because for divine life you need this kind of deep music. Just like yours, like Mozart and other people we have. But they are gone, finished. But still Indian music is continuing. I am very happy about it, I am thankful to these young artists that they have taken up this Indian music so seriously, have worked so hard and have brought that traditional thing back. Otherwise, I was thinking is going to die out or what’s the… Luckily, now we have an academy also and I am sure it will be revived and it will create more and more artists in India and also abroad. Alright? May God bless you.” [CUT IN THE VIDEO] Talk continues at: 2:47:57. Seventh Day 26.03.1998 Sir Chandrika Prasad Srivastava: -- “Dear Sahaja Yogis and Sahaja Yoginis, can you hear me? Yeah. We have been celebrating an event of momentous importance for entire humanity, the birth of your Holy Mother, Shri Mataji, seventy-five years ago. In effect, we are celebrating something which needs to be appreciated and understood. Before Her, there have been Incarnations, they have given to this Earth excellent religions and these religions aimed at bringing humanity to civilized existence, to existence according to ethical standards. So we have these different religions growing up in different places, getting different followers but, over a period of time, instead of uniting all of them, they began to separate them, as if there are compartments. And you had tensions in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. There was a great need for a new Incarnation to come and to lift the humanity to a higher level of spirituality and that is why Shri Mataji has come to this Earth and She has taken birth here. Seemingly, it may appear to be an impossible task. How do you do that? And initially, that was what the blind did not see how would Shri Mataji succeed in Her mission? But if you see what you see here today and if you hear what you have heard today, is this not already a new world in existence? And it is Her world which has come into being. We are now talking of Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs all being brothers and sisters. The possibility of me, a born Hindu, worshipping in a Mosque, why not? Or in a Church, why not? Or in a [SOUNDS LIKE Gurdwara], why not? Every place of worship is for everybody. And that is what Sahaja Yoga is. Sahaja Yoga lifts humanity to a very much higher level of spiritual existence. Now, this is Her mission and She began that mission twenty-eight years ago with great difficulty. I think we must all recognize and recall She has single-handedly brought about a tremendous revolution in humanity. I narrated you the other day of one, one event, twenty-five years ago, where She got hold of a young man who was almost dying and brought her home. Did She ask him ‘What is your religion?’ No. Did She ask him ‘What is your language?’ No. Did She ask him ‘What is your race?’ No. He was a human being and She brought that human being home, treated her with Sahaja Yoga and treated her with that powerful emotion: love. Selfless love, love of a mother. And very soon, this boy, who was a drunkard, who was given to drugs and all that goes with it, he got transformed. So that is how She begun, Herself, individually looking after one person or a group of persons. You saw Mister Grégoire, he came here as a U.N. diplomat. He also had come to our [SOUNDS LIKE Exeter] house. He was a young man, brilliant young man, but in search of truth. He stayed with us for two days and went back a realized soul. And now he has been one of the pillars of the Sahaja Yoga movement. So that is why, how She, your Holy Mother, has step by step, human being by human being, built up Sahaja Yoga and now we see thousands sitting here and a million or more around the world. That is Her achievement. Now, what is the message that you have to carry from here? We have been celebrating, I think this has been a most memorable event, it has been an elevating event, but what message will you carry from here? That’s very important. And the message that you carry from here to the wider world is Sahaja Yoga, now, has to engulf the whole world. It has to spread everywhere, it has to come to every human being, every human being has to be uplifted and if you carry that message, then I have no doubt that, with the blessing of Shri Mataji, that will succeed. When we meet again, to celebrate Her eightieth birthday, probably it will be not a million strong, will be two hundred millions strong and why not? And while we celebrate a hundred years of our existence, there will be five billions Sahaja Yogis in this world. I owe a tremendous gratitude to Her, She has been my wife for fifty-one years, She has looked after me with tremendous love and care and affection. Once She was in Australia. From there She rang up my cook in London giving instructions as to which vegetables he should prepare for me and how. That is a wife. She is a mother of my daughters and your Mother. She has looked after not only us, but all of you with the same love. She has never distinguished between Her children and any other children. Every child to Her is Her own child. How can I express adequately my personal gratitude to Her? Except just say ‘I love you’. Well, we wish Her eternal life, She has an eternal responsibility and I know that that is your prayer and when I go back from here I will convey to Her what you want me to convey, your love, your prayers for Her good health, for Her long life, for Her happiness. Now, coming down from the Divine to mundane life, this function has been organized exceedingly well and we began with a function where a number of important people came and addressed the gathering and they expressed their bewilderment, that was the word used by Mister [UNCLEAR], the [UNCLEAR] of Finance minister. Yes, people are bewildered, they just cannot believe their eyes, they cannot understand how human beings who quarrel outside this world are just in love with each other. When they go back, they go back amazed, stunned and they do not know how it has happened. Gradually, it will [UNCLEAR]. Now, all these persons spoke so well, so highly and we must be very, very grateful to them. I think that day Shri Yogi Mahajan who is not here has played a very big role, he was the master of ceremonies. Rajesh Shah is not here, he was responsible for bringing you a number of them. But that was a moment when this political leaders begun to see where they were deficient and where your Mother was creating a new model for them to follow, to uphold and follow. Then, we have had marvellous music program. Music is spiritual. It lifts you up. And music has been a very important integral part of Sahaja Yoga movement. And here I would like to thank and to congratulate Baba, I call him Baba because he is my [UNCLEAR], but he has played a wonderful role in getting music together, in organizing this and let’s give him a big hand. Apart from music, a function of this kind, a celebration of this magnitude - please do sit down -, of this magnitude requires a tremendous amount of organization. I know some international conferences have been organized for two thousands persons, three thousands persons and I assure you they were not even half as well-done as this has been organized here. And there are many, many who have joined hands, many Sahaja Yogis from Delhi and outside and to all of them I would like to express my gratitude. The Yuva Shakti, they have been exceedingly, excessively busy and very, very helpful, played a great role. The caterer, he has produced excellent food. Everyone must combine. But there’s always a master mind behind all this. Please don’t believe that these things happen so automatically. There’s someone behind this and that someone is Mister [SOUNDS LIKE Nargilkar]. I’ll request him to come along.” [CUT IN THE VIDEO] So, once again, Shri Nirmala Mataji Ki? Jay! Ki? Jay! Ki? Jay! Thank you. God bless you. Thank you.

4/1/1998

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A TV Interview, Istanbul, Turkey, 01.04.1998 Interviewer: Sahaja Yoga, It's founder is now in Turkey and speaking only with us. Who is she? Shri Mataji. Listen to what she is saying. Shri Mataji: All those watching me, if they have a desire, should open their hands like this. Put your right hand on your heart and say inside, "Mother, I am not this mind, this body, these feelings, these conditionings". I am the pure spirit. We are carrying a feeling of guilt inside. But it is harmful to this center here. Now stretch your right hand towards Me like this. and put your left hand above your head. And see carefully if you feel a cool or a hot breeze You can close your eyes if you like. Now stretch your left hand towards Me. and check with your right hand above your head. Do you feel a cool or a hot breeze? You can move your hand slowly up or down. Now raise your both hands. And ask one of these questions from your heart. Mother, is what I have felt the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Or Mother, is this the Spirit? Or Mother, is this the all pervading power of Divine Love? Now look at Me but don't think. And you will feel a cool or a hot breeze on your hands. also you can feel it above your fontanel bone area. This is the moment when your spirit starts to grow. Interviewer: How Long you will stay in Turkey Shri Mataji: I'm going on Monday Interviewer:Did you like Turkey. Shri Mataji: Of course, very much. Interviewer: In very short time we are waiting you again in Turkey Shri Mataji: Oh! I think, next time I will came for a longer time. [Cut in the video] That those were felt the cool breeze should write the letter for should inform them, that will be a good idea. Interviewer: But it is spring time now, there is no one who does not fee a breeze above one's head. Lady: In generally, people in the world are not happy with their life and with themselves. Everything they want happens they earn money but however still somehow people do not become happy they do not fee happy inside. As it was said in the Koran, Miraj has to take place. Shri Mataji: The ascend has to take place. And a transformation has to give Lady: Prophet Mohammed has said, you will feel your Spirit on your fingertips. And you will know yourself, you will face yourself. Shri Mataji: This reality you should know. [Cut in the video] Christ never went to any university. Lady: Some people, for example Christ never went to any univertsity. Mohammed did not to even know how to read and write. When you are standing in the water you may be afraid of the waves. But you are standing in a boat you will watch the waves and enjoy them. But if you can swim, you are not afraid of the water. you can jump into the water and save people there. Interviewer:As Shri Mataji loves people, she also likes flowers. Is there any special flower She identifies Herself with? Shri Mataji: My name is also daisy 'margarita'. Lady: Here is a gift. Shri Mataji: Thank you very much, thank you. Beautiful. Interviewer: It is the eye of Shri Fatima. Shri Mataji: I know, I know.

A TV Interview, Istanbul, Turkey, 01.04.1998 Interviewer: Sahaja Yoga, It's founder is now in Turkey and speaking only with us. Who is she? Shri Mataji. Listen to what she is saying. Shri Mataji: All those watching me, if they have a desire, should open their hands like this. Put your right hand on your heart and say inside, "Mother, I am not this mind, this body, these feelings, these conditionings". I am the pure spirit. We are carrying a feeling of guilt inside. But it is harmful to this center here. Now stretch your right hand towards Me like this. and put your left hand above your head. And see carefully if you feel a cool or a hot breeze You can close your eyes if you like. Now stretch your left hand towards Me. and check with your right hand above your head. Do you feel a cool or a hot breeze? You can move your hand slowly up or down. Now raise your both hands. And ask one of these questions from your heart. Mother, is what I have felt the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Or Mother, is this the Spirit? Or Mother, is this the all pervading power of Divine Love? Now look at Me but don't think. And you will feel a cool or a hot breeze on your hands. also you can feel it above your fontanel bone area. This is the moment when your spirit starts to grow. Interviewer: How Long you will stay in Turkey Shri Mataji: I'm going on Monday Interviewer:Did you like Turkey. Shri Mataji: Of course, very much. Interviewer: In very short time we are waiting you again in Turkey Shri Mataji: Oh! I think, next time I will came for a longer time. [Cut in the video] That those were felt the cool breeze should write the letter for should inform them, that will be a good idea. Interviewer: But it is spring time now, there is no one who does not fee a breeze above one's head. Lady: In generally, people in the world are not happy with their life and with themselves. Everything they want happens they earn money but however still somehow people do not become happy they do not fee happy inside. As it was said in the Koran, Miraj has to take place. Shri Mataji: The ascend has to take place. And a transformation has to give Lady: Prophet Mohammed has said, you will feel your Spirit on your fingertips. And you will know yourself, you will face yourself. Shri Mataji: This reality you should know. [Cut in the video] Christ never went to any university. Lady: Some people, for example Christ never went to any univertsity. Mohammed did not to even know how to read and write. When you are standing in the water you may be afraid of the waves. But you are standing in a boat you will watch the waves and enjoy them. But if you can swim, you are not afraid of the water. you can jump into the water and save people there. Interviewer:As Shri Mataji loves people, she also likes flowers. Is there any special flower She identifies Herself with? Shri Mataji: My name is also daisy 'margarita'. Lady: Here is a gift. Shri Mataji: Thank you very much, thank you. Beautiful. Interviewer: It is the eye of Shri Fatima. Shri Mataji: I know, I know.

4/16/1998

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Dubai (United Arab Emirates), 1998-04-16 Shri Mataji: They wanted me to go there but something was going wrong all the time. So I just couldn't manage. Sahajayogi:(In Hindi).Shall we do arti. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi.)Can do it afterwards.In the evening. Now I am going to be here with you all. After seeing so many people you don't know how overjoyed I am. Tremendous. (In Hindi.) Have those things come? Sahaja yogi: Yes. It has come. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Why did they get it opened? Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) That was not Yours Shri Mataji. That belonged to Ruhi. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Okay.Not mine? Sahaja yogi: No. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Why did they get Ruhi's opened? Sahaja yogi: They just wanted to see.(Laughing)As you said ….. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Does Ruhi have the keys? Sahaja yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: This is supposed to be duty -free place or something.Ruhi what were you smuggling? (Laughing)(In Hindi)This has turned out well because they were very obliging, no doubt, to give us a room and I would have been very nervous about how to manage and meet in that small little room. I didn't know they had so many Sahajayogies now. Sahaja yogi:( In Hindi)First there were 5 then 20. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)20-30 people more. There are twenty, thirty people who have not been able to come here. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Is it so? They will come. Sahaja yogi: If YOU give permission then it will happen. Shri Mataji:(InHindi)Of course, of course.Why not. Ask for permission. I would love to see all of them. We were able to find solutions with Srilanka. Wah, wah. I was so much worried, you don't know. How many times have we tried to open our eyes? There is one fellow called Srivardanan. I think he was in the U.N or something and he was in France. And he is the one who organised but he found it very difficult, I don't know why. But now things have changed I think. Still, there is going on, troubles are going on. It was really useless thing to fight like this. (In Hindi)You don't eat spicy? Sahajayogi:(In Hindi)No.We do not add any spice. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)There are lots of badges in the bag. We have brought some badges. Sahaja yogi: Yes Shri Mataji: But they were running away from the whole calamity there. So they had another problem. Not of Sahajayog and they were not that time interested because they had trouble there and they had come as political refugees in London. Then I think they disappeared. ( In Hindi) There are two books of Islam now, they have not come here? Sahajayogi: (In Hindi) No. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Here there are Shias or Sunnis? Sahaja yogi:(InHindi)They are mixed Shri Mataji. Both are there. Lots of people from Iran. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Shias listen. There they had a very big conference and at that conference, 700 people came.300 Muslims were there. They all got their realisation. Once they get their Realisation they 'realise.' That is called 'Mirage'.They call it 'Mirage' for 'Self Realisation.' Beautiful description. People do not read properly. They read superficially and they pray reading some stanzas. I was now reading Guru Govind Saab's work on 'Chandi'. Everything is written in such a clear cut manner.No religion was differentiated except for rituals. There was so much ritualism and this worshipping and all that. Too much. So he said let us talk of the 'Nirakara'. Let us talk of the 'formless'.Not of form. That is how it started. See it is like this we can say in a simile you can understand. That if you have to get the honey from the flower, they started talking about the flower, but it did not work out. They became very ritualistic. So they said, "why not talk about the honey."So they started talking about Parama Chaitanya and also about the honey part of it that you get. But despite all that, it was just talk for talk. Whatever they have written down is just, they have just read without getting into the real meaning of it. That is the problem. So Adi Shankara also said that, "Oh, Mother, take me beyond the 'subth jalam'", in this 'web of words.' So they got lost in the 'web of words'.Everyone.Not only we should say the Hindus or the Muslims or the Christians or the Sikhs, all of them. They got lost and that is how they never got the reality. And when you don't have the reality you start denouncing. That is all false, that is all nonsense. They talk of religion. In Maharashtra, and also in Srilanka people were very ritualistic you see. This has to be done. That has to be done. But those who were Buddhist were not so. But still, they did not go near the truth. Buddha has described it. Because he said it.'Budam saranam gachami'.That means the one who is enlightened. 'Buddha' means the one who is enlightened. Buddham Saranam Gachami, so to enlighten the people, we should 'surrender'.Then he said 'Darmom Saranam Gachami'. Darmom means dharma. Dharma has to be sustained. And then ultimately he says Sangam Saranam Gachami.Sangam means ,this is Sangam. This is Collective. So all these things that Buddha has said also, they couldn't do it because it was sort of a mantra, everybody is saying. So I think, it is not the mistake of Buddha but the mistake of the people, who never understood it and that is how so many types of religions came. So many types of, we should say, Sangas came. And nothing but fighting amongst themselves thinking that they are all great. But actually they are all one. All one. They all described them as 'One'.We human beings, you see, form separate, separate things and started fighting. So ultimately one has to understand that if you have to go to honey you have to become a bee.No use talking about honey. That means you have to be a 'realised soul'.They all have said the same thing. I am surprised how we missed the point. They said the same thing and that is so important. Even Quran. See my father translated Quran into Hindi so I know. And now we have got two very nice books. They haven't got the book? Sahaja yogi: We haven't sent them Shri Mataji: Better send them. Is it allowed? That book has to go all over. Masjid was saying that you should send it to Iran. I said you take it with you. In Iran also we have people who are at least 50 people are there who are Sahaja yogi. The first country I visited was Iran. It was not followed because they did not have the strength, any time. Like once I was travelling from Ria to London and they were all in burkha and this and that and that dress that they have. And I went off to sleep. When I got up I saw people are wearing a bow, tie and all, the ladies were wearing very short skirts, so I asked the air hostess did we land somewhere else.No, no we were travelling all the time. From where did these people come in? They are the same. In the plane itself, they change. (Laughing) There it is so compulsorily they have to be like that. And then afterwards that compulsion goes away and they just shoot off. So it's not what they say or talk, that is the problem. It has done more harm than anything else. Now we are having even in India same problems but worse in Pakistan. In Pakistan, these people from India who thought they will become king or something they went to Pakistan. In Pakistan, poor things they understood that something is wrong. So they formed a group of people near Karachi, around Karachi and then they started demanding to give us Karachi as a separate state. The whole fight started. With that fighting ultimately it so happened that they got separated. But they say this Benazir Bhutto was killing at least 21 of them. They call themselves Mujahirs and now the rate has gone up much more. Much more violence. I don't know with what idea they went. Now their relations are in India and they are quite worried about it, very much worried, how to get these people and how to work it out. I don't know if the Indian Government will allow them to come back. Because they are regularly killed.Though they are Muslims and they went all the way to Pakistan. So this is what is the problem between the Shias and Sunnis. It is so ancient and so much developed that you cannot explain. It is some sort of an ignorance. Sahaja yogi: We had some poster photographs for all these.All these photos. Shri Mataji:( In Hindi). He has brought good photographs. Very good photographs. Sahaja yogi: All the Collectivity here. Shri Mataji's photos. Shri Mataji: UNCLEAR took this photo.(laughing) Sahaja yogi: (In Hindi.)Okay. One of the best photographs. Shri Mataji: Laughing. (In Hindi.) Brought only one? Sahaja yogi: There are many.A whole bundle. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi.)It is on the wrong side. Turn it. All the dharmas have gone wrong. Now it is upright. It should be like this. Put here. It is looking good here. Yes. Put it properly in a line. So we will meet here in the night. I hope you all are not living very far away from here. You can all come conveniently. They were not allowing us to get out of the airport, but we gave bandhan. The airline organised it. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) Shri Mataji, Shri Mataji, this is the book you saw before. I had sent a book. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) What is this? Sahaja yogi: I had sent a book, returning it. Did you get it in Delhi? The letter is addressed to you. Shri Mataji: Well written.You?It is alright. You can get it published in India. One fellow who has come now he is doing a very good job. Have you seen MY new book on 'Meta Modern Era?' Sahaja yogi: New one. I have read that but not the new edition. Shri Mataji: Not the new one? Sahaja yogi: Not the new one. Shri Mataji: Very well done. It is very good. I will ask you to read it.Good.This Brahma Paramachaitanya is the one in lots of things these days you know. Showing lots of miracles. (In Hindi.)You have not brought the book. We can show him. Sahaja yogi: You have seen it?No? Sahaja yogi: No, no. Sahaja yogi: We will send you.Miraculous photographs. We will send you. Shri Mataji: Get this printed in India. Sahaja yogi: I have sent one copy to Arun Govil Saab. Shri Mataji: So many miracles have taken place. Sahaja yogi: Mr Nikhil Advani, he has gold business. (In Hindi) He has a gold business. He has been here for 8years. Also Mr.Saxena. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Okay. Saxena? You all Kayastha don't get scared? Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi.)I will bring some things here and show them to you. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi.)Oh, that is nice. These people have an obsession that in the puja they have to give some ornament. One madness. I do not wear any nor do I want any. But no one listens. I told them I am selling MY own jewellery, otherwise how will Sahajayoga work? Have to sell it off. They are saying sell this also if you want but we will gift you an ornament. Now, what to do? Useless obsession. I don't wear them at all, but they feel that we should give this to the Devi. This time they gave me 12 or 15 paintings on MY birthday. It is not paintings, it is Tanjore work with different aspects of Shivji. It is very beautiful but I told them you have got it from Madras with all the packing done. They are happy. It makes them happy. What can I do? Now every place it is sarees. I said, "if there is Draupadi Vastra Haran, it will be good."If there is Draupadi Vastra Haran then we can utilise those sarees. I have never even opened them. But I don't know what gives you pleasure to give ME sarees. It interests them. How did you manage us to get us out of there? (In Hindi) Even here whatever you are searching you get caught here.Everywhere.Finland is so far away, the land is Finnish. Even there we have Sahajayog. Don't know how? Everywhere. We have in Chile, Mexico. I have not gone there. They are having a conference now in Chile. Very surprising. Sahaja yogi: Yes. The Chilean government is very open. They are very open to.. Shri Mataji: I have been to Chile. They asked me," what sort of powers You have?" I said, UNCLEAR. We heard you had some sort of powers. Give us some powers. (In Hindi)Politically they want some powers. Sahaja yogi: Shri Mataji we also have opened a centre in Sharjah. Shri Mataji: I know it. There is a centre in Sharjah. Is it done? We went to Sharjah, remember.? Sahaja yogi: Yes, yes.First time when you came in 94. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Yes. There were lots of Indians. All labour class. They used to drink a lot. Don't know how they stay here and drink so much. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)They drink a lot. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)A lot. The whole night. The whole full night I was awake watching them. I did not get a seat, so they gave me with them. They had nothing to do but drink, abuse each other, shout at each other, all of them were drinking. They were all Muslims. Indians, Muslims. One thing, this drinking is a horrible thing.Absolutely.That is why Mohammad Saab, Nanak Saab, they all said don't drink. Then the people just become bankrupt. In my husband's family, mother's side, they all used to drink and they had so much money that the money was put in a bank like a thing, practically covered and just like as we measure petrol you see, they had a yard and they used to keep it inside, and they used to see how much money they have. Now there isn't even a 5 rupee note. ( UNCLEAR ) and people were not that stupid to smoke. But Nanak Saab clearly said not to smoke. But then the Muslims go on smoking like mad. About the Christians, Christ went to a wedding and then he changed water into wine they said. Now in the Hebrew language wine does not mean 'sharaab'. It means, wine means, the juice of grapes, that's all, in the Hebrew language. Now I can do that also, if I put MY hand in the water. You can do it also. It can taste like grape juice. It can. But you can not make wine, real wine in one second spontaneously. You have to make it rot and it has to be absolutely spoilt. Otherwise, it is not. So how he did it instantaneously? So that spontaneous happening cannot be creating alcohol. For that it has to rot, it has to ferment. So for now Christians it is a compulsion. It is a ritual. If somebody dies they must have champagne. If someone is born they must have champagne because Christ you know said it. He never said and in the old testament where the Jews follow, it is clearly written, 'all strong juices and all strong wines are not allowed'. Meaning which are being fermented. Compulsorily it is said, since the time of Mosses and then Mosses got so angry with the Jews that he wrote it down in the third chapter in the Bible. What they call it here Shariat. He wrote it for the Jews because they were so bad. (In Hindi) People said 5000 were sitting outside. There was such a lot of love. Such a lot of love.Cannot understand. They are coming. (Talking to a child in Hindi) Are they coming? Will you have a biscuit? You were smiling before. What happened now? Come. Take this. Take out the shoes. It will be easy. Now she will come.Take.Take.Alright. Does she walk? Sahaja yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: (Light laugh). (People talking in the background.) Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Are you going to dance? Singing bhajan (37.07 to 41.26) Shri Mataji: (In Hindi) Beautiful. Who has written it? Sahaja yogi: Everyone got together and made this. Shri Mataji: Is it so? Very beautiful. Sing some more. Singing (42.05 to 46.15)Ganesh Bhajan Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Very nice. Sung in proper 'sur'(chord). Very good.Beautiful.Very beautiful. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) Mataji, this is a button. It is from Srilanka. Shri Mataji: What is it? I have to UNCLEAR. Sahajayogi:(In Hindi)This is the weight of Kartikeya. Shri Mataji: Kartikeya. Sahaja yogi: Yes. Singing ( 47.06 to 51.42) Shri Mataji: Very beautiful. I could follow a little bit. Sahaja yogi: This is Sinhala and Tamil. A mixture of Sinhala and Tamil. Shri Mataji: What. Sahaja yogi: Sinhalese language and Tamil language mixed. Shri Mataji: It doesn't say, but I felt that Kartikeya was born as Gyaneswar.That is why at the age of 23 he took a Samadhi. But he wrote this beautiful 'Saint Gyaneswari' and another one he has written 'Ambica.... UNCLEAR. You all should get that English book. It is a wonderful book. It describes all the experiences of a Sahaja Yogi, and it was I think, it is this Kartikeya the way His powers are very expressive of themselves. (Hello, hello talking to a small child.) Hello, come here. Come here. It is a protocol. Sahaja yogi: Laughing Shri Mataji: Very good. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) Shri Mataji, we have a request. Shri Mataji: Come here. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) Shri Mataji, we have a request. Shri Mataji:( In Hindi)What is it? Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)If you could give some time and come and bless the centre in Sharjah. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)This time it may not be possible, son. You know why we spent so much time. We could not get the card and we were ringing up and trying. Now they said, come tomorrow. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)We will manage all that. We will get that done in the morning tomorrow. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Not necessary ME going there. I am there. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) If that place is touched by YOUR HOLY FEET. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Think that is already done. Because there is very short time. And the problems these people have created. For nothing. Tomorrow we will call MY husband and then he will call. All unnecessary. I am fed up. I told them to let it be but no one listens. She is very happy to go there. She is very happy after listening to the song. That is because she is 'realised'.(Talking to the child)Bring the flowers. Do you want to drink water? You drink. Everything has got wet. They(children) have all the rights because they are realised. Bring a cloth to wipe. It is very slippery. This is the reason, otherwise I would have been very happy to go. This is a big problem. I told them to leave it. There is nothing in this. Useless fights. Sahaja yogi:(IN Hindi) Shri Mataji, your things can be checked in tomorrow morning at the airport. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)That is at noon, 12 o clock. Sahajayogi:(InHindi)Yes. The things can be checked in before so that YOU get more time. Shri Mataji:( InHindi) Alright. I told them if it can be checked in, then do it. Why have they brought it here? Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)That can be done in the morning. It can be done at 9O' clock,10 O'clock. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)No, no. I said check it in from Delhi. I can bring one or two sarees with me. They did not understand and don't know what happened. Got them down and then they stopped us and opened (UNCLEAR) bag. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)We will get it done in the morning tomorrow. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Yes. That is better. Last time remember the amount of rushing here and there. Sahajayogi: (In Hindi) Shri Mataji,there is one last Bhajan. Shri Mataji: Yes, yes, I was going to ask you. Singing 57.07 to 1.01.13 Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Lovely, lovely. Very nice poem.Inspired.Very beautiful. The poems are so deep. You all have gone deep. I never expected this and am not able to express MYSELF. I am very happy. This is such an isolated place, I thought nothing is going to happen here. Such a lot has happened. Undergone a lot of struggles. Too much of struggles. I mean though it looks alright from the financial point of view, otherwise it is quite a, and also very money-oriented place. There is not much of love. In this, I think you have done a very great job. Very great. In a desert, how can you grow lotuses? But you have done that. I am very happy. Very very happy. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)It is all your blessings. Shri Mataji: She wants to dance? Are you feeling shy? Do you want to dance or not? Then dance. Who is going to sing for you? (Laughing) Now stand up otherwise he is going to dance there. Come along let's see. She is going to dance. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) Shri Mataji, these people have a Bhajan… Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Is it their Bhajan? Okay, first take that out from your hand. You sit. What is it you want to sing? Sahajayogi:The Bhajan 'Vandana, Vandana'. Shri Mataji: Yes. There is water. Now sing. Bhajan Vandana, Vandana 1.03.46 to 1.06.56. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Beautiful, beautiful. The children sang very well and the big children also sang nicely. Sahajayogies:( Laughing) Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Are the schools good here? Sahajayogi:(In Hindi)Indian High School.Good. Shri Mataji:( In Hindi) Indian? Good. Good. Sahaja yogi: Following CBSC syllabus. Shri Mataji: Is it good? Sahajayogi: Following Delhi board. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)The atmosphere also must be good. There is quite a lot of freedom here on certain things.Remember we had no freedom. Very difficult. It starts from here. There is the problem of Muslims here, and for them, there are two books we have got. Very good books. One is written by UNCLEAR and another is written by Javed. He is a black belt and he has made 25 black belt people Sahajayogies. He has made 25 people who are black belt people,he has made them into Sahajayogies. And they are working among all the Muslims in Maharashtra. In the same way, we had a conference of the Muslims as I told you in (UNCLEAR), where we had about 700 people. And out of them, 300 Muslims got their Realisation. It was such a success. They are mostly Shias. So maybe also Shunis you see, because today this fellow had a spondylitis so we cured him. Now we said we will give you the, I don't know.. (talking to children playing)Let him come. Let him come.Come.Come. Give that to him otherwise he will fall. It is all wet there. Is it wet? Sit there. Now it is alright. Everything has got wet. Yes, water has fallen. Is it alright now? Grow big fast. Flowers? Child: I have a baby sister but she is only ten months. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) I can't hear you. Come here and tell me.Be careful when you come here. Don't fall. Child: Repeats again. Now she is sleeping. Shri Mataji: Oh, I see. You better look after her. Alright? Child: Yes. Shri Mataji: When she will grow she will sing like you and dance also.Alright? May God bless you. Child: My brother is dancing. Shri Mataji: You have? Child: I have a brother. Shri Mataji: He is your brother?Oh, very good. Child: But he is dancing. Shri Mataji: You dance. Areh! That's all. Wonderful. Sahajayogies: Laughing.Child dancing. People laughing. Shri Mataji: (In Hindi)Don't laugh. He will get shy. You are a great dancer I must say. Dance now. Now he is shy. Christ has said, you have to be like children to enter the Kingdom of God. What does that mean? That means that you have to be innocent and it happens because, see when your Kundalini rises, then your Mooladhara chakra..stops acting, closes and the only job Ganesha does is to raise the Kundalini to support it so that it does not fall down. All other functions are not there. For nine hours, ten hours, nothing. You don't feel like going to the bathroom anyway, because this has stopped functioning. So all these things are so interconnected, the whole Universe, the whole Cosmic laws. All Spiritual laws. It is so connected that this happens then, that happens. So many things you see in Sahaja yoga there are UNCLEAR is nothing miraculous. It is a fact. It is there but for ordinary people, for general people, it is just a kind of a 'miracle'. So many things are happening and it is working out. People are getting cured and improving. (Playing with the child) Come.One is sufficient to entertain you. Laughing. (InHindi)Sit.Sit in peace. Now sit.Sit for a little while.Okay.He is himself now, giving a lecture to you. (Laughing.) I am happy you have a school here. So at least your children can stay with you. But otherwise, this modern life is so horrible, teaching all the cities of India also and they are introducing all kinds of nonsensical ideas to our children. Very difficult. Moreover our cinemas, films now I feel will improve, because there is a big opposition for this kind of thing going on, for the vulgarity and all. Easy to take to something that is subhuman, inhuman. But to give in human life, you have to have a certain amount of Dharma. If you don't even have this dharma you cannot ascend. See you may follow anyone. You may follow your religion, anything but if you don't follow the dharma then you can not rise. It is like say a life which is so imbalanced and it cannot rise. Now that is why they say first follow the dharma and then you will have ascent. But not in Sahaja yoga. In Sahaja yoga whatever you have done, whatever you have been following, whatever have been your mistakes, doesn't matter. You come. And then you get your 'Realisation'. Your Kundalini will tell you about 'your self'.Mohammad Saab has said that your hands will speak and UNCLEAR that is your hands will tell you what chakras you are catching, where is the flaw. For a Sahaja yogi, his attention should be on his Spirit, not outside. Outside problems can be solved just like this if your attention is on the Spirit. Because of the light of the Spirit, you see solutions, you find your way out. For everything, for your health.For everything. So the best thing is when you meditate put your attention to your heart. Put your attention to yourself and also see for yourself how much compassionate you are. How much kind you are.How much affectionate you are. But it is not that I am saying that we should have attachment like' Mumta', you can have, this is my child, my house, my this, my that. If that is there then it is a big problem. That is not love. Love is without any attachments. It is real love. It is pure love. You don't love somebody for money, you don't love somebody for some gain or some position. But you love somebody because you 'love'.And then that pure love will give you complete joy. If you don't have 'pure love' then after some time you will be very disturbed, you will be very upset. You can feel the other way round. But with 'pure love' you never feel, you feel extremely gratifying, happy about it. So that is what is to be experienced. (Give me water)And that is what one has to experience in Sahaja yoga. Nothing else.It is the experience, is the point. Now Ganpatipule how many have you been? Wow.Really? Good. In Ganapathy, you can see how there is ' Love' you know. Thousands of people with all the inconveniences and everything, I mean suddenly we never expected so many people and we did not know what to do. Thus they made little pandals suddenly. They never wrote that we are coming.They just arrived. Now, what to do? So they made some pandals and just temporarily. But everybody was very happy. There is no thieving, no talking ill about others, no discussion, no arguments. They only felt joy with each other. That's all. That should be so. And I am so happy to see also, that from Srilanka we got people. That was a very big desire of mine. You don't know how much I wanted to do something for Srilanka. They are very much in trouble in every way, and also Indian government is responsible for that I know. The mistakes they committed and all that they did was very, very wrong. And that is such a wrong thing to do. There was a journalist who came to Switzerland and he told me all about it. And I asked him to publish it and as soon as he published it he had to lose his job. You see because Rajeev Gandhi was a big favourite of your government. And when he felt that his mother was the one who brought them and all these things, now he is the one who has done this they were very angry. Because the Swiss bank people said that they are our very good customers. Who? Rajeev Gandhi. So you dare not. All the Gandhi family so you should not say all these things and he lost his job. So this is what it is, that even to tell the truth and all that you have to have circumstances where you can tell the truth. The old man came later on when all that happened. But he told me that for nothing at all there is a quarrel going on. There is no need to have a quarrel. It has gone too much now. So many people are going to be hanged. Let us see. It may or may not happen. I was just thinking it should not take place for one man to be against twenty-six people. It was all manufactured in India, and then they learnt all this Gorilla warfare in India. There were, how many I don't know, but many centres and Indira Gandhi was the one who started it. I know but what to do? How can you neutralize it now? So people have to understand that no use fighting, nothing. We should try to console them and try to bring them around. Because even in India there is no place to live. So better settle down properly there and live happily, instead of fighting and bring all kinds of problems. So one has to talk to them. But who can talk to them also? Very difficult. We sent somebody from Kuala Lumpur. He went there. He went through the airport and one taxi fellow came to pick him up and on the way, he was murdered. They have gone mad. I don't know, they just don't understand. By these things, we can not get Independence. And even if you get what happens? Now see, Bangla Desh and Pakistan. These are the two countries who separated from the Mother. As a result, now Pakistan is absolutely under the control of the Americans. Americans are giving them everything and now suddenly they have withdrawn, so their left hands are and the economy is so bad that they have no industries, nothing, while India has both. This side is Bangladesh. Bangladesh is one of the poorest countries in the whole world. Very poor. My husband used to go to Bangladesh. He said you better not come because you will start your Ganga, Yamuna all the time. You can't exist there. It is so bad. Bangladesh conditions are the worst. So it is such a mess they have landed. Now if they were part and parcel of India it would have worked out after all you know, but what is the use of having another country. Now the reason I have found out is this. There are few people who want to have their own importance, because they want to be the Prime Minister. Like Jinnah wanted to be the Prime Minister and Jawarlal which was a mistake maybe, but he wanted to have Pakistan. Same with this Bangladesh, there was this Mujibur Rahman. He wanted the same. But he was the one who was murdered by them. So you see the situation is such that they want it, but they do not know why they want it. What is the subtle thing behind it? They think we can have ministership. We will be Prime Ministers and then we can take the money of the public. Same with our country. See those who want power do not want it for power. They want it for money. Just say we have invested three lakhs so we have to get some investment or market you may call it, kind of bargaining, that we have taken this much trouble, we have spent so much money so the government must give and so we have stamped this, that. We have all kinds of things and all this. Got a pain in the back? Sahaja yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: What is the matter? Sahaja yogi: He could not fold his legs for a long time. Shri Mataji: He has put on too much weight. (In Hindi)If the diet is controlled it will get alright. Dieting and walking. Let him sit on the stool. Just sit on the chair. There is a chair there. After sometime. Sahaja yogi: You want to sit on the sofa? Shri Mataji: Give him 3 candle treatments. That will reduce him a lot.3 candle treatment. It will help him. He will be alright after some time. With the 3 candle treatment, he will reduce.Alright.Do you know how to do it? Sahaja yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: And also then...Baby crying. (Shri Mataji laughing ) Very interesting. See the love. Three candle treatment he will reduce and also he should do., you people eat a lot of rice? Sahaja yogi: Yeah. Shri Mataji: You take out the water? Take out three, four times. Starch.Hello.So that will take out the starch. Sahaja yogi: Starch. Shri Mataji: So that will take out the starch and anything that grows under the mother earth they should 'not take it. Nothing under the mother earth. Shouldn't take. That is the 'Prithvi tatva' much more in him and also you should give him 3 candle treatments and Ganesha Mantra will help.Alright.It is not difficult. It is very easy. You can reduce him. And also for eating fats should be reduced and carbohydrates If you don't take carbohydrates at all then there is no harm, you can take little fat. But carbohydrates if you are eating then it is better not to eat any say fats. That will solve. It can be done. If he can do a single bar.Very good. You know it is called puppy fat. It is not bad fat. Then suddenly they shoot up, quite tall. Also, give him Calcinol. You write it down. He will become very tall. Calcium, I don't know what you get here. Calcium but is very good and chew one or two tablets every day. He doesn't like roti? Sahaja yogi: Wheat chapati? Shri Mataji: He likes. Then better not give him rice. Bit if you are giving rice then wash it three, four times.Starch like potatoes, any starch and carbohydrates, if you could avoid it. The single bar has lots of benefits. But I think they suddenly go up like that. My daughter herself was like that at the age of 14 years. And now she is very tall, I think she is 5.61/2."But three times (UNCLEAR) very good. We have lots of people from Ceylon in Kuala Lumpur who are Sahaja yogis. They are in Kuala Lumpur and they came to Ganapathy pule. I don't know if anyone of you met them or not. Chinese came and also we can call them Tamilians they came. Do you speak the same language? Sahaja yogi: We speak Sinhalese. Sahaja yogi: Sinhalese. Shri Mataji: This was a Sinhalese song? Sahaja yogi: Yeah, yes. It was. It is a mixture of Tamil and Sinhalese. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) How do they write in Sinhalese? Sahaja yogi: What is the script? Do you have a script? Sahaja yogi: They have. It looks like Telugu. Shri Mataji: Alright.But this fighting for a separate land doesn't help.Noway.It will never help.It was a wrong idea somebody has given.See if you are in minority and there is discrimination, you can fight it.But don't fight for the separate land you know because that does not work out.And gradually you suffer a lot.So many examples are there.Wherever they have tried to separate the land, the Motherland, the Mother Earth is angry.Punjab was doing so well and then suddenly I don't know they took to Pakistanis, and lots of Pakistanis came in.The whole place was such a prosperous thing, they became really poor.Very poor.So these are examples to show that, they should not demand for separate country or land. Instead, try to bring more together so you will be much more stronger.And also help your government and people.That will be very good. I was having a talk about Buddha also, recently.So they said that Buddha gave up everything and he went away, left his wife and child and all.I said those days are gone.If what you are praying for is within you, you can get it.I gave him realisation but the same day I was leaving.I did not know what to do.He said that stay for one day more.I would like YOU to address all the people, cabinet, everything.I said sorry when the time will come I will come.We have in Thailand also lots of people.Now they are having a bad time with the finance with this government.These time come and go.Bad times come, good times is there.Also, this is our I should say, the fate that is there. But more than that is our courage, our realisation.With that what does it matter?You just watch the whole drama going on, sometimes up, sometimes down.It goes on like that.And it is very enjoyable, if you learn how to enjoy it, then you don't mind anything.I am very, very happy.You don't know how much I am touched by this song.Because you have expressed your heart in it and I said, in this desert to have people like you all very gratified.Very gratified.Now you should get more people and more people. Approach more.People from India, from Srilanka and maybe also there are some Chinese.Chinese are very good Sahajayogies.Russians are excellent.Excellent.I was surprised at these Russians.They are in millions. You can't count them.And the way they got their realisation was amazing.And so sensitive.So deep already.So then I found out two things that this communism has made them love, I should say in perspective and they developed their depth in that. Because communism was very disgusting maybe or oppressive, whatever it is.That's one thing that happened to them.And the second, there is no conditioning.They are neither Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, anything.No conditioning.They did not know even about God.But as soon as they saw me... the first time when I went to Leningrad I was surprised that when I went to the hall about two thousand people were sitting outside.I said why are you standing outside, why don't you go inside.They said Mother there is no room.All the seats are full.In Russia there is a law, if you take any hall they charge you some nominal amount and they occupy the rows so they don't give us neither they give it to anybody.They keep it for themselves, not UNCLEAR.So they said there is no seat and we can't go in.So we are sitting outside.I said alright we will finish the program.I finished the program and about one hour or so and came out.They were still there.I said what are you doing? They said, YOU said, YOU will come and give Realisation and we are waiting. I said, "'O'My God.Alright. Can you come tomorrow morning?" There were lots of big, big compounds in every place.I said I will sit on the steps and we will have the program.The next day 2000 inside ones,2000 outside ones and 1000 more from somewhere.5000 people were sitting.What is the matter with them?It never happened in any place.I said, "how is it, the first time I went, how is it you all have come like this."What else can we say?Mother, we saw your photograph."It is obvious. It is obvious"."Obvious from your face".I said look at that.My Mahamaya part finished off I think there."It is obvious?""Of course. It is obvious".So then it spread just like fire.We never have any program in any hall but always in a big theatre where 20,000, people can be seated.So 20,000 are inside and 10,000 are outside.On and on and on.So much so that they are banned.Even Hindus are banned there.They have an orthodox Church and some Muslims and something like that.Now you see, there they call it the head of the Church of the Orthodox Church.His name is Alexi and he has a woman who advises.Because her Agnya is sort of a …. I don't know what.Instead of seeing inside, she sees outside. So she sees people as they are. So as a spy she is the adviser for this gentleman. She came to our program and she saw me and she saw lots of light coming out and all ask for me and then she went back and told him that they are not in any way any cult. They are healers so it is alright. So we are not banned. Whether they call it healers or anything we are not banned. And that's how we have started this...But I have seen them anywhere. They are in America, anywhere Russians, very very deep. Very deep. If you could get hold of Russians here talk to them. Or let us know, we will find out from where do they come and all that. So their relations UNCLEAR. Otherwise, they are very much afraid of all kinds of these false gurus. Very much. But they are self secured. They described to me about ISCON people and also they described to me about this Satya Sai Baba. They say he is like a golliwog. Before I could tell them anything they knew all of it. It has gone up to Siberia. The whole thing is working out in a very nice manner and things are going smoothly. So all of you enjoyed Ganapathypule, I am happy to know and actually for certain people they have In Hindi ) Did you get a concession? No. They can give concessions to you people. Like we had gone to Kuala Lumpur they gave. (In Hindi.)No one came from Ceylon. We can work it out and if they want to come we can arrange it. It is a big concession they have given. They asked me and I said, I don't know, do whatever you like. (Laughing.)Because all these people are from Taiwan, Kuala Lumpur, East Asia, there are lots of places...I have no idea. Also for Russians. In the beginning, I used to pay them when they came. Poor thing. They did not have money to buy a little sherbet or anything. So difficult. But now they are better of and they are doing. For Ganapathy puja this time, we will again have marriages. Last time we had, I thought you people will come but there were more than 100, and I did not know what to do with hundred couples. And I was thinking from where will I get sarees for them. And suddenly they discovered in Cabella in the attic, two boxes full of sarees. I don't know. And I never bought them. I know nothing or I forgot and that's how the marriages took place there and they were very happily married and all have gone with their husbands or wives. It is very good. So many Indian girls are married and also so many, even Japanese girls. One Japanese girl is married in Cabella. Very interesting.What about Tamilian girls or Srilankan girls? We have one only, in England. She is Srilankan. One person. She is from some university. She came with me to this conference 'Peace Conference', the women's conference in China. She came, Srilankan. Don't remember her name. She is very dynamic. So the whole pattern is so different. This world is so very different. Sahaja yoga pattern is just different, but it is all working out. Spreading very much. Especially in the U.P of all the places. I can't believe it. Even the chief secretary there said. So many secretary IAS officers have said. Even in Delhi but not so many. Delhi we have the DIG Police is Mr Toor who came and he gave a very nice program himself this time. When C.P.came, he came to the airport to receive him, and then we have Income Tax people, the customs. I mean these people who are... now one thing, to be honest, I admit 'because they are satisfied.' What do you want to have more? They are satisfied. (In Hindi) Do not take pains, bother, for tomorrow . Very happy. This time you see last minute they said, 'yes, yes you can get out of the airport.' (In Hindi)I said what is the use of going early then. There is no use because we will come back here. All your love and affection and suddenly I got…(In Hindi) It has got late for everyone. I felt so happy meeting you and so relaxed that I went off to sleep nicely and they would wake me up. This shopping business has to be done so the whole thing became very late, isn't it? But what to do.

Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Dubai (United Arab Emirates), 1998-04-16 Shri Mataji: They wanted me to go there but something was going wrong all the time. So I just couldn't manage. Sahajayogi:(In Hindi).Shall we do arti. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi.)Can do it afterwards.In the evening. Now I am going to be here with you all. After seeing so many people you don't know how overjoyed I am. Tremendous. (In Hindi.) Have those things come? Sahaja yogi: Yes. It has come. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Why did they get it opened? Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) That was not Yours Shri Mataji. That belonged to Ruhi. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Okay.Not mine? Sahaja yogi: No. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Why did they get Ruhi's opened? Sahaja yogi: They just wanted to see.(Laughing)As you said ….. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Does Ruhi have the keys? Sahaja yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: This is supposed to be duty -free place or something.Ruhi what were you smuggling? (Laughing)(In Hindi)This has turned out well because they were very obliging, no doubt, to give us a room and I would have been very nervous about how to manage and meet in that small little room. I didn't know they had so many Sahajayogies now. Sahaja yogi:( In Hindi)First there were 5 then 20. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)20-30 people more. There are twenty, thirty people who have not been able to come here. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Is it so? They will come. Sahaja yogi: If YOU give permission then it will happen. Shri Mataji:(InHindi)Of course, of course.Why not. Ask for permission. I would love to see all of them. We were able to find solutions with Srilanka. Wah, wah. I was so much worried, you don't know. How many times have we tried to open our eyes? There is one fellow called Srivardanan. I think he was in the U.N or something and he was in France. And he is the one who organised but he found it very difficult, I don't know why. But now things have changed I think. Still, there is going on, troubles are going on. It was really useless thing to fight like this. (In Hindi)You don't eat spicy? Sahajayogi:(In Hindi)No.We do not add any spice. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)There are lots of badges in the bag. We have brought some badges. Sahaja yogi: Yes Shri Mataji: But they were running away from the whole calamity there. So they had another problem. Not of Sahajayog and they were not that time interested because they had trouble there and they had come as political refugees in London. Then I think they disappeared. ( In Hindi) There are two books of Islam now, they have not come here? Sahajayogi: (In Hindi) No. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Here there are Shias or Sunnis? Sahaja yogi:(InHindi)They are mixed Shri Mataji. Both are there. Lots of people from Iran. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Shias listen. There they had a very big conference and at that conference, 700 people came.300 Muslims were there. They all got their realisation. Once they get their Realisation they 'realise.' That is called 'Mirage'.They call it 'Mirage' for 'Self Realisation.' Beautiful description. People do not read properly. They read superficially and they pray reading some stanzas. I was now reading Guru Govind Saab's work on 'Chandi'. Everything is written in such a clear cut manner.No religion was differentiated except for rituals. There was so much ritualism and this worshipping and all that. Too much. So he said let us talk of the 'Nirakara'. Let us talk of the 'formless'.Not of form. That is how it started. See it is like this we can say in a simile you can understand. That if you have to get the honey from the flower, they started talking about the flower, but it did not work out. They became very ritualistic. So they said, "why not talk about the honey."So they started talking about Parama Chaitanya and also about the honey part of it that you get. But despite all that, it was just talk for talk. Whatever they have written down is just, they have just read without getting into the real meaning of it. That is the problem. So Adi Shankara also said that, "Oh, Mother, take me beyond the 'subth jalam'", in this 'web of words.' So they got lost in the 'web of words'.Everyone.Not only we should say the Hindus or the Muslims or the Christians or the Sikhs, all of them. They got lost and that is how they never got the reality. And when you don't have the reality you start denouncing. That is all false, that is all nonsense. They talk of religion. In Maharashtra, and also in Srilanka people were very ritualistic you see. This has to be done. That has to be done. But those who were Buddhist were not so. But still, they did not go near the truth. Buddha has described it. Because he said it.'Budam saranam gachami'.That means the one who is enlightened. 'Buddha' means the one who is enlightened. Buddham Saranam Gachami, so to enlighten the people, we should 'surrender'.Then he said 'Darmom Saranam Gachami'. Darmom means dharma. Dharma has to be sustained. And then ultimately he says Sangam Saranam Gachami.Sangam means ,this is Sangam. This is Collective. So all these things that Buddha has said also, they couldn't do it because it was sort of a mantra, everybody is saying. So I think, it is not the mistake of Buddha but the mistake of the people, who never understood it and that is how so many types of religions came. So many types of, we should say, Sangas came. And nothing but fighting amongst themselves thinking that they are all great. But actually they are all one. All one. They all described them as 'One'.We human beings, you see, form separate, separate things and started fighting. So ultimately one has to understand that if you have to go to honey you have to become a bee.No use talking about honey. That means you have to be a 'realised soul'.They all have said the same thing. I am surprised how we missed the point. They said the same thing and that is so important. Even Quran. See my father translated Quran into Hindi so I know. And now we have got two very nice books. They haven't got the book? Sahaja yogi: We haven't sent them Shri Mataji: Better send them. Is it allowed? That book has to go all over. Masjid was saying that you should send it to Iran. I said you take it with you. In Iran also we have people who are at least 50 people are there who are Sahaja yogi. The first country I visited was Iran. It was not followed because they did not have the strength, any time. Like once I was travelling from Ria to London and they were all in burkha and this and that and that dress that they have. And I went off to sleep. When I got up I saw people are wearing a bow, tie and all, the ladies were wearing very short skirts, so I asked the air hostess did we land somewhere else.No, no we were travelling all the time. From where did these people come in? They are the same. In the plane itself, they change. (Laughing) There it is so compulsorily they have to be like that. And then afterwards that compulsion goes away and they just shoot off. So it's not what they say or talk, that is the problem. It has done more harm than anything else. Now we are having even in India same problems but worse in Pakistan. In Pakistan, these people from India who thought they will become king or something they went to Pakistan. In Pakistan, poor things they understood that something is wrong. So they formed a group of people near Karachi, around Karachi and then they started demanding to give us Karachi as a separate state. The whole fight started. With that fighting ultimately it so happened that they got separated. But they say this Benazir Bhutto was killing at least 21 of them. They call themselves Mujahirs and now the rate has gone up much more. Much more violence. I don't know with what idea they went. Now their relations are in India and they are quite worried about it, very much worried, how to get these people and how to work it out. I don't know if the Indian Government will allow them to come back. Because they are regularly killed.Though they are Muslims and they went all the way to Pakistan. So this is what is the problem between the Shias and Sunnis. It is so ancient and so much developed that you cannot explain. It is some sort of an ignorance. Sahaja yogi: We had some poster photographs for all these.All these photos. Shri Mataji:( In Hindi). He has brought good photographs. Very good photographs. Sahaja yogi: All the Collectivity here. Shri Mataji's photos. Shri Mataji: UNCLEAR took this photo.(laughing) Sahaja yogi: (In Hindi.)Okay. One of the best photographs. Shri Mataji: Laughing. (In Hindi.) Brought only one? Sahaja yogi: There are many.A whole bundle. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi.)It is on the wrong side. Turn it. All the dharmas have gone wrong. Now it is upright. It should be like this. Put here. It is looking good here. Yes. Put it properly in a line. So we will meet here in the night. I hope you all are not living very far away from here. You can all come conveniently. They were not allowing us to get out of the airport, but we gave bandhan. The airline organised it. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) Shri Mataji, Shri Mataji, this is the book you saw before. I had sent a book. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) What is this? Sahaja yogi: I had sent a book, returning it. Did you get it in Delhi? The letter is addressed to you. Shri Mataji: Well written.You?It is alright. You can get it published in India. One fellow who has come now he is doing a very good job. Have you seen MY new book on 'Meta Modern Era?' Sahaja yogi: New one. I have read that but not the new edition. Shri Mataji: Not the new one? Sahaja yogi: Not the new one. Shri Mataji: Very well done. It is very good. I will ask you to read it.Good.This Brahma Paramachaitanya is the one in lots of things these days you know. Showing lots of miracles. (In Hindi.)You have not brought the book. We can show him. Sahaja yogi: You have seen it?No? Sahaja yogi: No, no. Sahaja yogi: We will send you.Miraculous photographs. We will send you. Shri Mataji: Get this printed in India. Sahaja yogi: I have sent one copy to Arun Govil Saab. Shri Mataji: So many miracles have taken place. Sahaja yogi: Mr Nikhil Advani, he has gold business. (In Hindi) He has a gold business. He has been here for 8years. Also Mr.Saxena. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Okay. Saxena? You all Kayastha don't get scared? Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi.)I will bring some things here and show them to you. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi.)Oh, that is nice. These people have an obsession that in the puja they have to give some ornament. One madness. I do not wear any nor do I want any. But no one listens. I told them I am selling MY own jewellery, otherwise how will Sahajayoga work? Have to sell it off. They are saying sell this also if you want but we will gift you an ornament. Now, what to do? Useless obsession. I don't wear them at all, but they feel that we should give this to the Devi. This time they gave me 12 or 15 paintings on MY birthday. It is not paintings, it is Tanjore work with different aspects of Shivji. It is very beautiful but I told them you have got it from Madras with all the packing done. They are happy. It makes them happy. What can I do? Now every place it is sarees. I said, "if there is Draupadi Vastra Haran, it will be good."If there is Draupadi Vastra Haran then we can utilise those sarees. I have never even opened them. But I don't know what gives you pleasure to give ME sarees. It interests them. How did you manage us to get us out of there? (In Hindi) Even here whatever you are searching you get caught here.Everywhere.Finland is so far away, the land is Finnish. Even there we have Sahajayog. Don't know how? Everywhere. We have in Chile, Mexico. I have not gone there. They are having a conference now in Chile. Very surprising. Sahaja yogi: Yes. The Chilean government is very open. They are very open to.. Shri Mataji: I have been to Chile. They asked me," what sort of powers You have?" I said, UNCLEAR. We heard you had some sort of powers. Give us some powers. (In Hindi)Politically they want some powers. Sahaja yogi: Shri Mataji we also have opened a centre in Sharjah. Shri Mataji: I know it. There is a centre in Sharjah. Is it done? We went to Sharjah, remember.? Sahaja yogi: Yes, yes.First time when you came in 94. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Yes. There were lots of Indians. All labour class. They used to drink a lot. Don't know how they stay here and drink so much. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)They drink a lot. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)A lot. The whole night. The whole full night I was awake watching them. I did not get a seat, so they gave me with them. They had nothing to do but drink, abuse each other, shout at each other, all of them were drinking. They were all Muslims. Indians, Muslims. One thing, this drinking is a horrible thing.Absolutely.That is why Mohammad Saab, Nanak Saab, they all said don't drink. Then the people just become bankrupt. In my husband's family, mother's side, they all used to drink and they had so much money that the money was put in a bank like a thing, practically covered and just like as we measure petrol you see, they had a yard and they used to keep it inside, and they used to see how much money they have. Now there isn't even a 5 rupee note. ( UNCLEAR ) and people were not that stupid to smoke. But Nanak Saab clearly said not to smoke. But then the Muslims go on smoking like mad. About the Christians, Christ went to a wedding and then he changed water into wine they said. Now in the Hebrew language wine does not mean 'sharaab'. It means, wine means, the juice of grapes, that's all, in the Hebrew language. Now I can do that also, if I put MY hand in the water. You can do it also. It can taste like grape juice. It can. But you can not make wine, real wine in one second spontaneously. You have to make it rot and it has to be absolutely spoilt. Otherwise, it is not. So how he did it instantaneously? So that spontaneous happening cannot be creating alcohol. For that it has to rot, it has to ferment. So for now Christians it is a compulsion. It is a ritual. If somebody dies they must have champagne. If someone is born they must have champagne because Christ you know said it. He never said and in the old testament where the Jews follow, it is clearly written, 'all strong juices and all strong wines are not allowed'. Meaning which are being fermented. Compulsorily it is said, since the time of Mosses and then Mosses got so angry with the Jews that he wrote it down in the third chapter in the Bible. What they call it here Shariat. He wrote it for the Jews because they were so bad. (In Hindi) People said 5000 were sitting outside. There was such a lot of love. Such a lot of love.Cannot understand. They are coming. (Talking to a child in Hindi) Are they coming? Will you have a biscuit? You were smiling before. What happened now? Come. Take this. Take out the shoes. It will be easy. Now she will come.Take.Take.Alright. Does she walk? Sahaja yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: (Light laugh). (People talking in the background.) Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Are you going to dance? Singing bhajan (37.07 to 41.26) Shri Mataji: (In Hindi) Beautiful. Who has written it? Sahaja yogi: Everyone got together and made this. Shri Mataji: Is it so? Very beautiful. Sing some more. Singing (42.05 to 46.15)Ganesh Bhajan Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Very nice. Sung in proper 'sur'(chord). Very good.Beautiful.Very beautiful. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) Mataji, this is a button. It is from Srilanka. Shri Mataji: What is it? I have to UNCLEAR. Sahajayogi:(In Hindi)This is the weight of Kartikeya. Shri Mataji: Kartikeya. Sahaja yogi: Yes. Singing ( 47.06 to 51.42) Shri Mataji: Very beautiful. I could follow a little bit. Sahaja yogi: This is Sinhala and Tamil. A mixture of Sinhala and Tamil. Shri Mataji: What. Sahaja yogi: Sinhalese language and Tamil language mixed. Shri Mataji: It doesn't say, but I felt that Kartikeya was born as Gyaneswar.That is why at the age of 23 he took a Samadhi. But he wrote this beautiful 'Saint Gyaneswari' and another one he has written 'Ambica.... UNCLEAR. You all should get that English book. It is a wonderful book. It describes all the experiences of a Sahaja Yogi, and it was I think, it is this Kartikeya the way His powers are very expressive of themselves. (Hello, hello talking to a small child.) Hello, come here. Come here. It is a protocol. Sahaja yogi: Laughing Shri Mataji: Very good. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) Shri Mataji, we have a request. Shri Mataji: Come here. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) Shri Mataji, we have a request. Shri Mataji:( In Hindi)What is it? Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)If you could give some time and come and bless the centre in Sharjah. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)This time it may not be possible, son. You know why we spent so much time. We could not get the card and we were ringing up and trying. Now they said, come tomorrow. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)We will manage all that. We will get that done in the morning tomorrow. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Not necessary ME going there. I am there. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) If that place is touched by YOUR HOLY FEET. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Think that is already done. Because there is very short time. And the problems these people have created. For nothing. Tomorrow we will call MY husband and then he will call. All unnecessary. I am fed up. I told them to let it be but no one listens. She is very happy to go there. She is very happy after listening to the song. That is because she is 'realised'.(Talking to the child)Bring the flowers. Do you want to drink water? You drink. Everything has got wet. They(children) have all the rights because they are realised. Bring a cloth to wipe. It is very slippery. This is the reason, otherwise I would have been very happy to go. This is a big problem. I told them to leave it. There is nothing in this. Useless fights. Sahaja yogi:(IN Hindi) Shri Mataji, your things can be checked in tomorrow morning at the airport. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)That is at noon, 12 o clock. Sahajayogi:(InHindi)Yes. The things can be checked in before so that YOU get more time. Shri Mataji:( InHindi) Alright. I told them if it can be checked in, then do it. Why have they brought it here? Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)That can be done in the morning. It can be done at 9O' clock,10 O'clock. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)No, no. I said check it in from Delhi. I can bring one or two sarees with me. They did not understand and don't know what happened. Got them down and then they stopped us and opened (UNCLEAR) bag. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)We will get it done in the morning tomorrow. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Yes. That is better. Last time remember the amount of rushing here and there. Sahajayogi: (In Hindi) Shri Mataji,there is one last Bhajan. Shri Mataji: Yes, yes, I was going to ask you. Singing 57.07 to 1.01.13 Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Lovely, lovely. Very nice poem.Inspired.Very beautiful. The poems are so deep. You all have gone deep. I never expected this and am not able to express MYSELF. I am very happy. This is such an isolated place, I thought nothing is going to happen here. Such a lot has happened. Undergone a lot of struggles. Too much of struggles. I mean though it looks alright from the financial point of view, otherwise it is quite a, and also very money-oriented place. There is not much of love. In this, I think you have done a very great job. Very great. In a desert, how can you grow lotuses? But you have done that. I am very happy. Very very happy. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi)It is all your blessings. Shri Mataji: She wants to dance? Are you feeling shy? Do you want to dance or not? Then dance. Who is going to sing for you? (Laughing) Now stand up otherwise he is going to dance there. Come along let's see. She is going to dance. Sahaja yogi:(In Hindi) Shri Mataji, these people have a Bhajan… Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Is it their Bhajan? Okay, first take that out from your hand. You sit. What is it you want to sing? Sahajayogi:The Bhajan 'Vandana, Vandana'. Shri Mataji: Yes. There is water. Now sing. Bhajan Vandana, Vandana 1.03.46 to 1.06.56. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) Beautiful, beautiful. The children sang very well and the big children also sang nicely. Sahajayogies:( Laughing) Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)Are the schools good here? Sahajayogi:(In Hindi)Indian High School.Good. Shri Mataji:( In Hindi) Indian? Good. Good. Sahaja yogi: Following CBSC syllabus. Shri Mataji: Is it good? Sahajayogi: Following Delhi board. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi)The atmosphere also must be good. There is quite a lot of freedom here on certain things.Remember we had no freedom. Very difficult. It starts from here. There is the problem of Muslims here, and for them, there are two books we have got. Very good books. One is written by UNCLEAR and another is written by Javed. He is a black belt and he has made 25 black belt people Sahajayogies. He has made 25 people who are black belt people,he has made them into Sahajayogies. And they are working among all the Muslims in Maharashtra. In the same way, we had a conference of the Muslims as I told you in (UNCLEAR), where we had about 700 people. And out of them, 300 Muslims got their Realisation. It was such a success. They are mostly Shias. So maybe also Shunis you see, because today this fellow had a spondylitis so we cured him. Now we said we will give you the, I don't know.. (talking to children playing)Let him come. Let him come.Come.Come. Give that to him otherwise he will fall. It is all wet there. Is it wet? Sit there. Now it is alright. Everything has got wet. Yes, water has fallen. Is it alright now? Grow big fast. Flowers? Child: I have a baby sister but she is only ten months. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) I can't hear you. Come here and tell me.Be careful when you come here. Don't fall. Child: Repeats again. Now she is sleeping. Shri Mataji: Oh, I see. You better look after her. Alright? Child: Yes. Shri Mataji: When she will grow she will sing like you and dance also.Alright? May God bless you. Child: My brother is dancing. Shri Mataji: You have? Child: I have a brother. Shri Mataji: He is your brother?Oh, very good. Child: But he is dancing. Shri Mataji: You dance. Areh! That's all. Wonderful. Sahajayogies: Laughing.Child dancing. People laughing. Shri Mataji: (In Hindi)Don't laugh. He will get shy. You are a great dancer I must say. Dance now. Now he is shy. Christ has said, you have to be like children to enter the Kingdom of God. What does that mean? That means that you have to be innocent and it happens because, see when your Kundalini rises, then your Mooladhara chakra..stops acting, closes and the only job Ganesha does is to raise the Kundalini to support it so that it does not fall down. All other functions are not there. For nine hours, ten hours, nothing. You don't feel like going to the bathroom anyway, because this has stopped functioning. So all these things are so interconnected, the whole Universe, the whole Cosmic laws. All Spiritual laws. It is so connected that this happens then, that happens. So many things you see in Sahaja yoga there are UNCLEAR is nothing miraculous. It is a fact. It is there but for ordinary people, for general people, it is just a kind of a 'miracle'. So many things are happening and it is working out. People are getting cured and improving. (Playing with the child) Come.One is sufficient to entertain you. Laughing. (InHindi)Sit.Sit in peace. Now sit.Sit for a little while.Okay.He is himself now, giving a lecture to you. (Laughing.) I am happy you have a school here. So at least your children can stay with you. But otherwise, this modern life is so horrible, teaching all the cities of India also and they are introducing all kinds of nonsensical ideas to our children. Very difficult. Moreover our cinemas, films now I feel will improve, because there is a big opposition for this kind of thing going on, for the vulgarity and all. Easy to take to something that is subhuman, inhuman. But to give in human life, you have to have a certain amount of Dharma. If you don't even have this dharma you cannot ascend. See you may follow anyone. You may follow your religion, anything but if you don't follow the dharma then you can not rise. It is like say a life which is so imbalanced and it cannot rise. Now that is why they say first follow the dharma and then you will have ascent. But not in Sahaja yoga. In Sahaja yoga whatever you have done, whatever you have been following, whatever have been your mistakes, doesn't matter. You come. And then you get your 'Realisation'. Your Kundalini will tell you about 'your self'.Mohammad Saab has said that your hands will speak and UNCLEAR that is your hands will tell you what chakras you are catching, where is the flaw. For a Sahaja yogi, his attention should be on his Spirit, not outside. Outside problems can be solved just like this if your attention is on the Spirit. Because of the light of the Spirit, you see solutions, you find your way out. For everything, for your health.For everything. So the best thing is when you meditate put your attention to your heart. Put your attention to yourself and also see for yourself how much compassionate you are. How much kind you are.How much affectionate you are. But it is not that I am saying that we should have attachment like' Mumta', you can have, this is my child, my house, my this, my that. If that is there then it is a big problem. That is not love. Love is without any attachments. It is real love. It is pure love. You don't love somebody for money, you don't love somebody for some gain or some position. But you love somebody because you 'love'.And then that pure love will give you complete joy. If you don't have 'pure love' then after some time you will be very disturbed, you will be very upset. You can feel the other way round. But with 'pure love' you never feel, you feel extremely gratifying, happy about it. So that is what is to be experienced. (Give me water)And that is what one has to experience in Sahaja yoga. Nothing else.It is the experience, is the point. Now Ganpatipule how many have you been? Wow.Really? Good. In Ganapathy, you can see how there is ' Love' you know. Thousands of people with all the inconveniences and everything, I mean suddenly we never expected so many people and we did not know what to do. Thus they made little pandals suddenly. They never wrote that we are coming.They just arrived. Now, what to do? So they made some pandals and just temporarily. But everybody was very happy. There is no thieving, no talking ill about others, no discussion, no arguments. They only felt joy with each other. That's all. That should be so. And I am so happy to see also, that from Srilanka we got people. That was a very big desire of mine. You don't know how much I wanted to do something for Srilanka. They are very much in trouble in every way, and also Indian government is responsible for that I know. The mistakes they committed and all that they did was very, very wrong. And that is such a wrong thing to do. There was a journalist who came to Switzerland and he told me all about it. And I asked him to publish it and as soon as he published it he had to lose his job. You see because Rajeev Gandhi was a big favourite of your government. And when he felt that his mother was the one who brought them and all these things, now he is the one who has done this they were very angry. Because the Swiss bank people said that they are our very good customers. Who? Rajeev Gandhi. So you dare not. All the Gandhi family so you should not say all these things and he lost his job. So this is what it is, that even to tell the truth and all that you have to have circumstances where you can tell the truth. The old man came later on when all that happened. But he told me that for nothing at all there is a quarrel going on. There is no need to have a quarrel. It has gone too much now. So many people are going to be hanged. Let us see. It may or may not happen. I was just thinking it should not take place for one man to be against twenty-six people. It was all manufactured in India, and then they learnt all this Gorilla warfare in India. There were, how many I don't know, but many centres and Indira Gandhi was the one who started it. I know but what to do? How can you neutralize it now? So people have to understand that no use fighting, nothing. We should try to console them and try to bring them around. Because even in India there is no place to live. So better settle down properly there and live happily, instead of fighting and bring all kinds of problems. So one has to talk to them. But who can talk to them also? Very difficult. We sent somebody from Kuala Lumpur. He went there. He went through the airport and one taxi fellow came to pick him up and on the way, he was murdered. They have gone mad. I don't know, they just don't understand. By these things, we can not get Independence. And even if you get what happens? Now see, Bangla Desh and Pakistan. These are the two countries who separated from the Mother. As a result, now Pakistan is absolutely under the control of the Americans. Americans are giving them everything and now suddenly they have withdrawn, so their left hands are and the economy is so bad that they have no industries, nothing, while India has both. This side is Bangladesh. Bangladesh is one of the poorest countries in the whole world. Very poor. My husband used to go to Bangladesh. He said you better not come because you will start your Ganga, Yamuna all the time. You can't exist there. It is so bad. Bangladesh conditions are the worst. So it is such a mess they have landed. Now if they were part and parcel of India it would have worked out after all you know, but what is the use of having another country. Now the reason I have found out is this. There are few people who want to have their own importance, because they want to be the Prime Minister. Like Jinnah wanted to be the Prime Minister and Jawarlal which was a mistake maybe, but he wanted to have Pakistan. Same with this Bangladesh, there was this Mujibur Rahman. He wanted the same. But he was the one who was murdered by them. So you see the situation is such that they want it, but they do not know why they want it. What is the subtle thing behind it? They think we can have ministership. We will be Prime Ministers and then we can take the money of the public. Same with our country. See those who want power do not want it for power. They want it for money. Just say we have invested three lakhs so we have to get some investment or market you may call it, kind of bargaining, that we have taken this much trouble, we have spent so much money so the government must give and so we have stamped this, that. We have all kinds of things and all this. Got a pain in the back? Sahaja yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: What is the matter? Sahaja yogi: He could not fold his legs for a long time. Shri Mataji: He has put on too much weight. (In Hindi)If the diet is controlled it will get alright. Dieting and walking. Let him sit on the stool. Just sit on the chair. There is a chair there. After sometime. Sahaja yogi: You want to sit on the sofa? Shri Mataji: Give him 3 candle treatments. That will reduce him a lot.3 candle treatment. It will help him. He will be alright after some time. With the 3 candle treatment, he will reduce.Alright.Do you know how to do it? Sahaja yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: And also then...Baby crying. (Shri Mataji laughing ) Very interesting. See the love. Three candle treatment he will reduce and also he should do., you people eat a lot of rice? Sahaja yogi: Yeah. Shri Mataji: You take out the water? Take out three, four times. Starch.Hello.So that will take out the starch. Sahaja yogi: Starch. Shri Mataji: So that will take out the starch and anything that grows under the mother earth they should 'not take it. Nothing under the mother earth. Shouldn't take. That is the 'Prithvi tatva' much more in him and also you should give him 3 candle treatments and Ganesha Mantra will help.Alright.It is not difficult. It is very easy. You can reduce him. And also for eating fats should be reduced and carbohydrates If you don't take carbohydrates at all then there is no harm, you can take little fat. But carbohydrates if you are eating then it is better not to eat any say fats. That will solve. It can be done. If he can do a single bar.Very good. You know it is called puppy fat. It is not bad fat. Then suddenly they shoot up, quite tall. Also, give him Calcinol. You write it down. He will become very tall. Calcium, I don't know what you get here. Calcium but is very good and chew one or two tablets every day. He doesn't like roti? Sahaja yogi: Wheat chapati? Shri Mataji: He likes. Then better not give him rice. Bit if you are giving rice then wash it three, four times.Starch like potatoes, any starch and carbohydrates, if you could avoid it. The single bar has lots of benefits. But I think they suddenly go up like that. My daughter herself was like that at the age of 14 years. And now she is very tall, I think she is 5.61/2."But three times (UNCLEAR) very good. We have lots of people from Ceylon in Kuala Lumpur who are Sahaja yogis. They are in Kuala Lumpur and they came to Ganapathy pule. I don't know if anyone of you met them or not. Chinese came and also we can call them Tamilians they came. Do you speak the same language? Sahaja yogi: We speak Sinhalese. Sahaja yogi: Sinhalese. Shri Mataji: This was a Sinhalese song? Sahaja yogi: Yeah, yes. It was. It is a mixture of Tamil and Sinhalese. Shri Mataji:(In Hindi) How do they write in Sinhalese? Sahaja yogi: What is the script? Do you have a script? Sahaja yogi: They have. It looks like Telugu. Shri Mataji: Alright.But this fighting for a separate land doesn't help.Noway.It will never help.It was a wrong idea somebody has given.See if you are in minority and there is discrimination, you can fight it.But don't fight for the separate land you know because that does not work out.And gradually you suffer a lot.So many examples are there.Wherever they have tried to separate the land, the Motherland, the Mother Earth is angry.Punjab was doing so well and then suddenly I don't know they took to Pakistanis, and lots of Pakistanis came in.The whole place was such a prosperous thing, they became really poor.Very poor.So these are examples to show that, they should not demand for separate country or land. Instead, try to bring more together so you will be much more stronger.And also help your government and people.That will be very good. I was having a talk about Buddha also, recently.So they said that Buddha gave up everything and he went away, left his wife and child and all.I said those days are gone.If what you are praying for is within you, you can get it.I gave him realisation but the same day I was leaving.I did not know what to do.He said that stay for one day more.I would like YOU to address all the people, cabinet, everything.I said sorry when the time will come I will come.We have in Thailand also lots of people.Now they are having a bad time with the finance with this government.These time come and go.Bad times come, good times is there.Also, this is our I should say, the fate that is there. But more than that is our courage, our realisation.With that what does it matter?You just watch the whole drama going on, sometimes up, sometimes down.It goes on like that.And it is very enjoyable, if you learn how to enjoy it, then you don't mind anything.I am very, very happy.You don't know how much I am touched by this song.Because you have expressed your heart in it and I said, in this desert to have people like you all very gratified.Very gratified.Now you should get more people and more people. Approach more.People from India, from Srilanka and maybe also there are some Chinese.Chinese are very good Sahajayogies.Russians are excellent.Excellent.I was surprised at these Russians.They are in millions. You can't count them.And the way they got their realisation was amazing.And so sensitive.So deep already.So then I found out two things that this communism has made them love, I should say in perspective and they developed their depth in that. Because communism was very disgusting maybe or oppressive, whatever it is.That's one thing that happened to them.And the second, there is no conditioning.They are neither Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, anything.No conditioning.They did not know even about God.But as soon as they saw me... the first time when I went to Leningrad I was surprised that when I went to the hall about two thousand people were sitting outside.I said why are you standing outside, why don't you go inside.They said Mother there is no room.All the seats are full.In Russia there is a law, if you take any hall they charge you some nominal amount and they occupy the rows so they don't give us neither they give it to anybody.They keep it for themselves, not UNCLEAR.So they said there is no seat and we can't go in.So we are sitting outside.I said alright we will finish the program.I finished the program and about one hour or so and came out.They were still there.I said what are you doing? They said, YOU said, YOU will come and give Realisation and we are waiting. I said, "'O'My God.Alright. Can you come tomorrow morning?" There were lots of big, big compounds in every place.I said I will sit on the steps and we will have the program.The next day 2000 inside ones,2000 outside ones and 1000 more from somewhere.5000 people were sitting.What is the matter with them?It never happened in any place.I said, "how is it, the first time I went, how is it you all have come like this."What else can we say?Mother, we saw your photograph."It is obvious. It is obvious"."Obvious from your face".I said look at that.My Mahamaya part finished off I think there."It is obvious?""Of course. It is obvious".So then it spread just like fire.We never have any program in any hall but always in a big theatre where 20,000, people can be seated.So 20,000 are inside and 10,000 are outside.On and on and on.So much so that they are banned.Even Hindus are banned there.They have an orthodox Church and some Muslims and something like that.Now you see, there they call it the head of the Church of the Orthodox Church.His name is Alexi and he has a woman who advises.Because her Agnya is sort of a …. I don't know what.Instead of seeing inside, she sees outside. So she sees people as they are. So as a spy she is the adviser for this gentleman. She came to our program and she saw me and she saw lots of light coming out and all ask for me and then she went back and told him that they are not in any way any cult. They are healers so it is alright. So we are not banned. Whether they call it healers or anything we are not banned. And that's how we have started this...But I have seen them anywhere. They are in America, anywhere Russians, very very deep. Very deep. If you could get hold of Russians here talk to them. Or let us know, we will find out from where do they come and all that. So their relations UNCLEAR. Otherwise, they are very much afraid of all kinds of these false gurus. Very much. But they are self secured. They described to me about ISCON people and also they described to me about this Satya Sai Baba. They say he is like a golliwog. Before I could tell them anything they knew all of it. It has gone up to Siberia. The whole thing is working out in a very nice manner and things are going smoothly. So all of you enjoyed Ganapathypule, I am happy to know and actually for certain people they have In Hindi ) Did you get a concession? No. They can give concessions to you people. Like we had gone to Kuala Lumpur they gave. (In Hindi.)No one came from Ceylon. We can work it out and if they want to come we can arrange it. It is a big concession they have given. They asked me and I said, I don't know, do whatever you like. (Laughing.)Because all these people are from Taiwan, Kuala Lumpur, East Asia, there are lots of places...I have no idea. Also for Russians. In the beginning, I used to pay them when they came. Poor thing. They did not have money to buy a little sherbet or anything. So difficult. But now they are better of and they are doing. For Ganapathy puja this time, we will again have marriages. Last time we had, I thought you people will come but there were more than 100, and I did not know what to do with hundred couples. And I was thinking from where will I get sarees for them. And suddenly they discovered in Cabella in the attic, two boxes full of sarees. I don't know. And I never bought them. I know nothing or I forgot and that's how the marriages took place there and they were very happily married and all have gone with their husbands or wives. It is very good. So many Indian girls are married and also so many, even Japanese girls. One Japanese girl is married in Cabella. Very interesting.What about Tamilian girls or Srilankan girls? We have one only, in England. She is Srilankan. One person. She is from some university. She came with me to this conference 'Peace Conference', the women's conference in China. She came, Srilankan. Don't remember her name. She is very dynamic. So the whole pattern is so different. This world is so very different. Sahaja yoga pattern is just different, but it is all working out. Spreading very much. Especially in the U.P of all the places. I can't believe it. Even the chief secretary there said. So many secretary IAS officers have said. Even in Delhi but not so many. Delhi we have the DIG Police is Mr Toor who came and he gave a very nice program himself this time. When C.P.came, he came to the airport to receive him, and then we have Income Tax people, the customs. I mean these people who are... now one thing, to be honest, I admit 'because they are satisfied.' What do you want to have more? They are satisfied. (In Hindi) Do not take pains, bother, for tomorrow . Very happy. This time you see last minute they said, 'yes, yes you can get out of the airport.' (In Hindi)I said what is the use of going early then. There is no use because we will come back here. All your love and affection and suddenly I got…(In Hindi) It has got late for everyone. I felt so happy meeting you and so relaxed that I went off to sleep nicely and they would wake me up. This shopping business has to be done so the whole thing became very late, isn't it? But what to do.

4/18/1998

http://amruta.org/?p=7262

Shri Mataji on Star TV

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Istanbul

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News item on Turkish TV - Swiss Hotel, Istanbul (Turkey) Saturday 18th April 1998 An Indian Guru who came to Istanbul to teach Yoga is in the focus of attention of the high society. See who kneeled before the Indian Guru wanting to find solutions for their problems. It is sufficient to spectacular welcome ceremony in Istanbul with flowers and songs to understand how popular the Indian Guru Shri Mataji is. The 75-year-old Indian guru came on a wheelchair to avoid getting tired. Devotees welcomed their Guru kneeling down before Her. Some had tears in their eyes. Not only Turks came to Sahaja Yoga conference in Istanbul. Guru’s disciples came by busses even from Malaysia and Russia. Shri Mataji continuous to receive the high society in Her hotel room in Istanbul. A concrete example of the interest shown to Her are the shoes letf in front of the door. The devotees, knowing that Shri mataji likes flowers, they decorated the hotel room with flowers. There is a strong smell of flowers and incence in the room. One of the Shri Mataji’s visitors today is from an old Turkish family of Eczacıbaşı. Nükhet Eczacıbaşı expressed her respect by offering flowers to Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji had a conversation with Nükhet Eczacıbaşı who was sitting on her knees before Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji asked her if she fulfills her family duties. Shri Mataji: but you were a daughter, you looked after the parents, Nükhet Eczacıbaşı: I tried my best and Yoga helped me very much Just by looking into the young ladies face Shri Mataji said that, she had a kidney problem. Indian Guru who is said that She is able to cure AIDS and cancer took some sugar in Her hand and put a healing power into the sugar. Shri Mataji: But be carefull about your health now. It is important. Take this and this will cooldown you. Nükhet Eczacıbaşı: I will. Shri Mataji: And you will feel better. Nükhet Eczacıbaşı took the sugar and when she was leaving the room Shri Mataji again explained to her how to use sugar. Shri Mataji: Take it with a spoon and put more water. Like other guests who are impressed in this way by the Indian Guru, we kneel down before Her hoping to learn Her secret. The first assesment is positive and Guru feels the energy. Then together with Her assistant, She makes a check up. Indian Guru does not find a physical ailment but She draws out attention to a mental problem. Yogi Mahajan : Do you have feelings in your hands? Shri Mataji: Now, you have to forgive, allright? Yogi Mahajan : You don’t forgive. You have to forgive. It is a mental problem. Shri Mataji: Now, better? Negative enegy is taken from the body and now the mind is brought to state where it is ready to forgive.

News item on Turkish TV - Swiss Hotel, Istanbul (Turkey) Saturday 18th April 1998 An Indian Guru who came to Istanbul to teach Yoga is in the focus of attention of the high society. See who kneeled before the Indian Guru wanting to find solutions for their problems. It is sufficient to spectacular welcome ceremony in Istanbul with flowers and songs to understand how popular the Indian Guru Shri Mataji is. The 75-year-old Indian guru came on a wheelchair to avoid getting tired. Devotees welcomed their Guru kneeling down before Her. Some had tears in their eyes. Not only Turks came to Sahaja Yoga conference in Istanbul. Guru’s disciples came by busses even from Malaysia and Russia. Shri Mataji continuous to receive the high society in Her hotel room in Istanbul. A concrete example of the interest shown to Her are the shoes letf in front of the door. The devotees, knowing that Shri mataji likes flowers, they decorated the hotel room with flowers. There is a strong smell of flowers and incence in the room. One of the Shri Mataji’s visitors today is from an old Turkish family of Eczacıbaşı. Nükhet Eczacıbaşı expressed her respect by offering flowers to Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji had a conversation with Nükhet Eczacıbaşı who was sitting on her knees before Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji asked her if she fulfills her family duties. Shri Mataji: but you were a daughter, you looked after the parents, Nükhet Eczacıbaşı: I tried my best and Yoga helped me very much Just by looking into the young ladies face Shri Mataji said that, she had a kidney problem. Indian Guru who is said that She is able to cure AIDS and cancer took some sugar in Her hand and put a healing power into the sugar. Shri Mataji: But be carefull about your health now. It is important. Take this and this will cooldown you. Nükhet Eczacıbaşı: I will. Shri Mataji: And you will feel better. Nükhet Eczacıbaşı took the sugar and when she was leaving the room Shri Mataji again explained to her how to use sugar. Shri Mataji: Take it with a spoon and put more water. Like other guests who are impressed in this way by the Indian Guru, we kneel down before Her hoping to learn Her secret. The first assesment is positive and Guru feels the energy. Then together with Her assistant, She makes a check up. Indian Guru does not find a physical ailment but She draws out attention to a mental problem. Yogi Mahajan : Do you have feelings in your hands? Shri Mataji: Now, you have to forgive, allright? Yogi Mahajan : You don’t forgive. You have to forgive. It is a mental problem. Shri Mataji: Now, better? Negative enegy is taken from the body and now the mind is brought to state where it is ready to forgive.

4/18/1998

http://amruta.org/?p=20130

Evening Program, Eve of Easter Puja

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Istanbul

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Evening Program At Easter Puja, Istanbul, Turkey, 1998-04-18 (From 2:07:52 speech starts) I never expected such a beautiful pandal you have raised and the way you have organized the stage as if you are all experts on stage arrangements. I can’t understand how beautiful it was all done. Now I don’t know what to say about all the programs that you have arranged. One better than the other and it shows such a capacity you have or you have developed to organize such beautiful entertaining, continuous programs. I used to do the same when I was young. I used to arrange many programs and I know the difficulties and hurdles we had. Because the people who did that were not Sahaja Yogis. You are all Sahaja Yogis so you are also combining and you are helping each other, so beautifully. There is so much of harmony, no problem of any kind. This is something to be seen and to be felt the way it has been done. I was really surprised the way, they had the Turkish dance also. These people are beautiful dancers and they can be paid very heavily. If somehow I could introduce them to some Serena people from India. They used this kind of dance very much and but it is very difficult. I don’t know if you understand there is a myth patterns of those people who danced here and who are so fast. My husband used to always tell me that Turkish people are the most capable people. If they take to anything they do it very well. And I can see that in three years’ time this whole of Istanbul has changed. So many new buildings have come up, is so different you can’t make out the same road the same place you are in. So we have to learn from them is to be capable of is one and to have a speed, very important. Though I don’t like the speed that comes and goes like. If you have to go to the airport suddenly, you get speedy. But the speed in the sense that when you are doing something you must have that balance within yourselves and you must do with a kind of a divine spirit with that you will achieve so many things. As you have seen today how these people are singing the qawwali or a little girl sang so well, Ganesha Stuti and others also. So well done that is unbelievable. For Romanian girls to do this Nath Bharatanatyam is something that I can’t understand but Romania I think is a Gandharva. What you call the celestial musicians place. You get all kind of musicians there and suddenly you find so many beautiful dancers there who are doing Katak and also this very difficult dance Bharatanatyam and also I have seen doing Kakhakhali. It is very surprising how they have picked up like a Kuchipudi dance which is a very fast number. And they are so good. I mean as if the rhythm is built in their body the way they do it. I am surprised. They are very beautiful also violin player, musicians there. You see how they are picked this qawwali which is such a difficult thing to sing with all the alaps and things but they have managed it somehow very beautifully. If somebody listens to it from outside they will think that somebody like Nusrat Ali sing. It is very beautifully done and my all congratulations to them. Apart from that, I must say that Indian music is very difficult and people learn for ages to master it. But how in Sahaja Yoga you have done so well, for example, Selim playing sarod like an instrument so well. Well you know I asked Hamzad Ali. He said ten years he was just practising. So what is this happen to you all that, you are doing so well? Especially I find in Babamama School that he has started. He himself is amazed because in three days, three months they can sing a melody like malkauns for which people have to work for years together and they just go on. So from where this knowledge has come to them. Is it from the previous life or is it your spirit, God knows. Because he says even Sahaja Yogis who are Indians who are realized souls can’t do the way these westerners are doing. Means this something really the whole music thing flowing towards the west now I think the way people have taken. It was very very beautifully done, extremely entertaining for me. I didn’t know how the time past. It was such an endeavour on your part to do this. Beautifully this all pandal is done so well. I mean I never expected in Turkey all this thing could happen. We have only one person Nese she is a young lady and how she has organized in this, very graditude. Also very creditable to Greek people to come here, and take such part and help them. You see this is a very nice idea to have Greeks and Turkish to be together. Because they are having a fight otherwise you see for petrol. For petrol, I think. And this can finish with Sahaja Yoga. That this fight between Turkey and Greece will end very soon. Another thing which is very remarkable is the way you pronounce also Indian words so well. l am surprised. Because not easy to pronounce them so easily and accent , the accent so clearly. It is very very remarkable I must say. Of course, I mean not that Indian music is the last word. It is not that always that is the only one that is the highest. For example, I have also heard Austrians playing very beautiful orchestra from Vivaldi and Mozart and all that. So it is something happens to you. I think within that, you start acquiring this talent of music and acquiring the talent of playing the music, understanding the music so well. Is not possible. So this is, if this is the blessing of Sahaja Yoga half of the work is done. Because through this musical notes only the vibrations flow. When the music is played I find so much vibration goes out automatically. Of course, it has to be in tune. It has to be in rhythm but otherwise, there is no other way out to spread the vibrations. So music plays a very important role in Sahaja Yoga. And even if you don’t understand it doesn’t matter. Because vibrations flow and you get the blessings of the vibrations. Music is very important. But no one guaranty, no-nonsense must be. If you do it in a proper dignified manner any dance or any even a drama is very very successful. Regarding our drama I was, it was an eyeopener and it is a very bold venture on your part to put Ayatollah there. I mean it was too much. I don’t know what to say because they are all ignorant. You have to forgive them. They are very ignorant and because Quran was written after forty years, after the death of Mohammed Sahab. You see there has to be some ambiguity, this means it is ambiguous. But if you really read through the words, through the lines than you will find. It is all Sahaja Yoga written. Absolutely Sahaja Yoga was written there. But that is what inside you should have if you go through the Quran with that inside. Because we are bringing no credit to Mohammed Sahib no credit to Quran, no credit to Islam. So this is what is happening and if we have to save the Muslims, we have to tell them, whatever is the truth. And in that truth, they can rise. It is true about Christians also. It is true about all religions that whatever is written is ambiguous, perhaps for all of them. Because it is in poetry and so the people don’t understand what is written. They don’t understand the meaning of. For example, we have a very great poet Kabir. You know him very well. Kabir sang a song saying, “sayyaan nikas gaye mai naa ladi thi”, so sayyaan means what, sayya means according to our Luckhow people, it means lover. What has he got to do with the lover? See Kabir has nothing to do with the lover. But said that sayyaan nikas gaye. So they used to think this about the lover. But when I told them sanya means life. They were all shocked. I said it is. What has he got to do with the lover? It is life when it went away I didn’t fight it. Is the whole symbolic expression of Kabir is never understood by people like he has, he has said to Kundalini called is surati. So what people understood that he is talking about tobacco. They made surati as tobacco. Tobacco’s name is surati in Bihar. So you can imagine what Kabir must be thinking in this, I don’t know God from where did I write for these stupid people. But it is ignorance. When the eyes are not open, you don’t understand, what is it. You see a snake in a rope. The only thing I feel is that it was not written in absolute prose, dry prose. People have misunderstood. Same about Nanaksa He has written such a beautiful very beautiful thing and that whole Guru Granth Sahab (religious scripture of Sikhism) is nothing but the poems of all the realized souls. But in that he has written, again and again, don’t only read the words but read the meaning within the words. But they just go on reading one after another you know. One comes put the the finger there and another starts. If that is the way you are going to read Quran or Bible or this Nanaksa… any one of these books you are going to land up in where oasis of stupidity is. That is what was happening to people that’s why they are misled, they are fighting. Why should people who believe in God, why should they fight? What is the purpose of that? So, this is what has happened and now it is your duty as Sahaja Yogis. Because you have got the light is your duty to explain to them that this is what we have been doing wrong. And we all miss out if we don’t take to Sahaja Yoga, we all miss out. So the best thing is to have patient, have love and compassion for people, for the blind. And then explain to them very sweetly what you have followed. You are the people who have been called as imams. You are imams you are no less than imam. Imams also didn’t know so much about kundalini or about the ascent and all that. Except for Mohammad Sahib himself has described miraç (ascension). That too in a such a symbolic manner. That anybody who reads it will think that will sit on a white horse and go towards the sky. It is not like that. You see they are symbolic people. That’s why I always avoid symbols. Because I know human beings will not understand symbols. This is the way they express to make it beautiful also people are so angry for listening to anything that is truthful. That they wanted to put it in a very sweet manner and this way. Everybody has done that. Gyaneshwara such a powerful man. He took. They all use symbols. And because of the symbols, people are confused and some people have taken advantage of that. So what we have to now tell them, that this is a symbol of what. Explain to them. This is symbolic meaning what and then I am sure, I am very sure, they will take to the right path and follow the right path. All the Sufis also write poetry. This gentleman also writes poetry. All of them write poetry, you see. The poetry is very beautiful to enjoy like flowers. But if it goes into the head of the people then it is of use. It doesn’t, doesn’t. So you have to talk just like your mother, in a prosaik, straight forward way and explain to people. But among yourself, you can use music, poetry, everything. I am very thankful to you for this beautiful program you have given now such a variety and of such an expression of art. I don’t know what to say. I never expected all this and in Turkey, I never expected at least. So much work has been done in Turkey I didn’t know. This is all thanks to Nese I think or to Selim and all these people, have done so much to create so many Sahaja Yogis here. I am happy people have come all the way from Kiev and also from Romania and from all over to celebrate, this great occasion of ,I should say, they call the resurrection of Christ. Whatever it shows that you respect all the religions equally and understand beauty. This is the biggest achievement I tell you today in the turmoil of people fighting each other. So May God Bless You. Thank you very much. Thank you ever so much. I hope tomorrow they are going to have a havan. And after that in the, “what time is the puja? One o’clock? we can have havan later…” We can have puja at about 7 o’clock they said and havan in the morning whenever you decide. “what time is havan” 10 o’clock you can do havan. And all the negative, negativities have to be burn. So think of them who are the negatives and who are troubling you. We have to burn them off. We will be alright. May God Bless You. I am especially thankful to our guest and his wife for being with us. So very kind of you. You know we Sahaja Yogis no sense of time. We are beyond time We will be sitting until tomorrow morning if I don’t move. So now this is special, 2:30 is too much I think. Thank you very much.

Evening Program At Easter Puja, Istanbul, Turkey, 1998-04-18 (From 2:07:52 speech starts) I never expected such a beautiful pandal you have raised and the way you have organized the stage as if you are all experts on stage arrangements. I can’t understand how beautiful it was all done. Now I don’t know what to say about all the programs that you have arranged. One better than the other and it shows such a capacity you have or you have developed to organize such beautiful entertaining, continuous programs. I used to do the same when I was young. I used to arrange many programs and I know the difficulties and hurdles we had. Because the people who did that were not Sahaja Yogis. You are all Sahaja Yogis so you are also combining and you are helping each other, so beautifully. There is so much of harmony, no problem of any kind. This is something to be seen and to be felt the way it has been done. I was really surprised the way, they had the Turkish dance also. These people are beautiful dancers and they can be paid very heavily. If somehow I could introduce them to some Serena people from India. They used this kind of dance very much and but it is very difficult. I don’t know if you understand there is a myth patterns of those people who danced here and who are so fast. My husband used to always tell me that Turkish people are the most capable people. If they take to anything they do it very well. And I can see that in three years’ time this whole of Istanbul has changed. So many new buildings have come up, is so different you can’t make out the same road the same place you are in. So we have to learn from them is to be capable of is one and to have a speed, very important. Though I don’t like the speed that comes and goes like. If you have to go to the airport suddenly, you get speedy. But the speed in the sense that when you are doing something you must have that balance within yourselves and you must do with a kind of a divine spirit with that you will achieve so many things. As you have seen today how these people are singing the qawwali or a little girl sang so well, Ganesha Stuti and others also. So well done that is unbelievable. For Romanian girls to do this Nath Bharatanatyam is something that I can’t understand but Romania I think is a Gandharva. What you call the celestial musicians place. You get all kind of musicians there and suddenly you find so many beautiful dancers there who are doing Katak and also this very difficult dance Bharatanatyam and also I have seen doing Kakhakhali. It is very surprising how they have picked up like a Kuchipudi dance which is a very fast number. And they are so good. I mean as if the rhythm is built in their body the way they do it. I am surprised. They are very beautiful also violin player, musicians there. You see how they are picked this qawwali which is such a difficult thing to sing with all the alaps and things but they have managed it somehow very beautifully. If somebody listens to it from outside they will think that somebody like Nusrat Ali sing. It is very beautifully done and my all congratulations to them. Apart from that, I must say that Indian music is very difficult and people learn for ages to master it. But how in Sahaja Yoga you have done so well, for example, Selim playing sarod like an instrument so well. Well you know I asked Hamzad Ali. He said ten years he was just practising. So what is this happen to you all that, you are doing so well? Especially I find in Babamama School that he has started. He himself is amazed because in three days, three months they can sing a melody like malkauns for which people have to work for years together and they just go on. So from where this knowledge has come to them. Is it from the previous life or is it your spirit, God knows. Because he says even Sahaja Yogis who are Indians who are realized souls can’t do the way these westerners are doing. Means this something really the whole music thing flowing towards the west now I think the way people have taken. It was very very beautifully done, extremely entertaining for me. I didn’t know how the time past. It was such an endeavour on your part to do this. Beautifully this all pandal is done so well. I mean I never expected in Turkey all this thing could happen. We have only one person Nese she is a young lady and how she has organized in this, very graditude. Also very creditable to Greek people to come here, and take such part and help them. You see this is a very nice idea to have Greeks and Turkish to be together. Because they are having a fight otherwise you see for petrol. For petrol, I think. And this can finish with Sahaja Yoga. That this fight between Turkey and Greece will end very soon. Another thing which is very remarkable is the way you pronounce also Indian words so well. l am surprised. Because not easy to pronounce them so easily and accent , the accent so clearly. It is very very remarkable I must say. Of course, I mean not that Indian music is the last word. It is not that always that is the only one that is the highest. For example, I have also heard Austrians playing very beautiful orchestra from Vivaldi and Mozart and all that. So it is something happens to you. I think within that, you start acquiring this talent of music and acquiring the talent of playing the music, understanding the music so well. Is not possible. So this is, if this is the blessing of Sahaja Yoga half of the work is done. Because through this musical notes only the vibrations flow. When the music is played I find so much vibration goes out automatically. Of course, it has to be in tune. It has to be in rhythm but otherwise, there is no other way out to spread the vibrations. So music plays a very important role in Sahaja Yoga. And even if you don’t understand it doesn’t matter. Because vibrations flow and you get the blessings of the vibrations. Music is very important. But no one guaranty, no-nonsense must be. If you do it in a proper dignified manner any dance or any even a drama is very very successful. Regarding our drama I was, it was an eyeopener and it is a very bold venture on your part to put Ayatollah there. I mean it was too much. I don’t know what to say because they are all ignorant. You have to forgive them. They are very ignorant and because Quran was written after forty years, after the death of Mohammed Sahab. You see there has to be some ambiguity, this means it is ambiguous. But if you really read through the words, through the lines than you will find. It is all Sahaja Yoga written. Absolutely Sahaja Yoga was written there. But that is what inside you should have if you go through the Quran with that inside. Because we are bringing no credit to Mohammed Sahib no credit to Quran, no credit to Islam. So this is what is happening and if we have to save the Muslims, we have to tell them, whatever is the truth. And in that truth, they can rise. It is true about Christians also. It is true about all religions that whatever is written is ambiguous, perhaps for all of them. Because it is in poetry and so the people don’t understand what is written. They don’t understand the meaning of. For example, we have a very great poet Kabir. You know him very well. Kabir sang a song saying, “sayyaan nikas gaye mai naa ladi thi”, so sayyaan means what, sayya means according to our Luckhow people, it means lover. What has he got to do with the lover? See Kabir has nothing to do with the lover. But said that sayyaan nikas gaye. So they used to think this about the lover. But when I told them sanya means life. They were all shocked. I said it is. What has he got to do with the lover? It is life when it went away I didn’t fight it. Is the whole symbolic expression of Kabir is never understood by people like he has, he has said to Kundalini called is surati. So what people understood that he is talking about tobacco. They made surati as tobacco. Tobacco’s name is surati in Bihar. So you can imagine what Kabir must be thinking in this, I don’t know God from where did I write for these stupid people. But it is ignorance. When the eyes are not open, you don’t understand, what is it. You see a snake in a rope. The only thing I feel is that it was not written in absolute prose, dry prose. People have misunderstood. Same about Nanaksa He has written such a beautiful very beautiful thing and that whole Guru Granth Sahab (religious scripture of Sikhism) is nothing but the poems of all the realized souls. But in that he has written, again and again, don’t only read the words but read the meaning within the words. But they just go on reading one after another you know. One comes put the the finger there and another starts. If that is the way you are going to read Quran or Bible or this Nanaksa… any one of these books you are going to land up in where oasis of stupidity is. That is what was happening to people that’s why they are misled, they are fighting. Why should people who believe in God, why should they fight? What is the purpose of that? So, this is what has happened and now it is your duty as Sahaja Yogis. Because you have got the light is your duty to explain to them that this is what we have been doing wrong. And we all miss out if we don’t take to Sahaja Yoga, we all miss out. So the best thing is to have patient, have love and compassion for people, for the blind. And then explain to them very sweetly what you have followed. You are the people who have been called as imams. You are imams you are no less than imam. Imams also didn’t know so much about kundalini or about the ascent and all that. Except for Mohammad Sahib himself has described miraç (ascension). That too in a such a symbolic manner. That anybody who reads it will think that will sit on a white horse and go towards the sky. It is not like that. You see they are symbolic people. That’s why I always avoid symbols. Because I know human beings will not understand symbols. This is the way they express to make it beautiful also people are so angry for listening to anything that is truthful. That they wanted to put it in a very sweet manner and this way. Everybody has done that. Gyaneshwara such a powerful man. He took. They all use symbols. And because of the symbols, people are confused and some people have taken advantage of that. So what we have to now tell them, that this is a symbol of what. Explain to them. This is symbolic meaning what and then I am sure, I am very sure, they will take to the right path and follow the right path. All the Sufis also write poetry. This gentleman also writes poetry. All of them write poetry, you see. The poetry is very beautiful to enjoy like flowers. But if it goes into the head of the people then it is of use. It doesn’t, doesn’t. So you have to talk just like your mother, in a prosaik, straight forward way and explain to people. But among yourself, you can use music, poetry, everything. I am very thankful to you for this beautiful program you have given now such a variety and of such an expression of art. I don’t know what to say. I never expected all this and in Turkey, I never expected at least. So much work has been done in Turkey I didn’t know. This is all thanks to Nese I think or to Selim and all these people, have done so much to create so many Sahaja Yogis here. I am happy people have come all the way from Kiev and also from Romania and from all over to celebrate, this great occasion of ,I should say, they call the resurrection of Christ. Whatever it shows that you respect all the religions equally and understand beauty. This is the biggest achievement I tell you today in the turmoil of people fighting each other. So May God Bless You. Thank you very much. Thank you ever so much. I hope tomorrow they are going to have a havan. And after that in the, “what time is the puja? One o’clock? we can have havan later…” We can have puja at about 7 o’clock they said and havan in the morning whenever you decide. “what time is havan” 10 o’clock you can do havan. And all the negative, negativities have to be burn. So think of them who are the negatives and who are troubling you. We have to burn them off. We will be alright. May God Bless You. I am especially thankful to our guest and his wife for being with us. So very kind of you. You know we Sahaja Yogis no sense of time. We are beyond time We will be sitting until tomorrow morning if I don’t move. So now this is special, 2:30 is too much I think. Thank you very much.

4/19/1998

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Easter Puja: You Can Spread Sahaja Yoga Only Through Love and Compassion

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Easter Puja. Istanbul (Turkey), 19 April 1998. Today, we are celebrating the Resurrection of Christ. That is the greatest message of Christ life, not the crucifixion. Anybody can be crucified and killed, but this dead body of Christ was resurrected from death. Death itself died and He overcame it. It’s a miracle for ordinary human beings, definitely, but not for Christ, because He was a Divine person, He was Shri Ganesha, He was Omkara Itself. So, He could walk on the water, gravity would not affect Him, and also He got resurrected because death could not affect Him. Such a great Divine personality, specially created for human beings that people should recognise Him. But they did not recognise Him, they killed Him, in a very brutal manner. And even now they think [the] cross is a great thing because Christ died on a cross. It’s a very cruel idea of human beings to respect the cross. What does it show? It shows that people liked all the cruelties done to Him, symbolising cross as the one that represented His death and these atrocities, the way He was tortured. So, it was a very sad time when He was crucified. But when He got resurrected it was the most joyous, most auspicious and most beautiful time. The resurrection of Christ is very symbolic for Sahaj Yoga. If Christ could be resurrected, then if human beings also can be resurrected, because He came as a human being with all powers and He created the path of resurrection for us. This path of resurrection is the one that we have followed in Sahaj Yoga. But the greatest thing is the piercing of the Agnya Chakra, which is described in all spiritual treaties, or may be called as, the scriptures that, that is the door which is golden, which is like a cover and no one can pass through that, so constricted is this door of Agnya Chakra. But Christ did cross that. His crossing has helped us today to open your Agnya. Without opening the Agnya you cannot go to Sahasrar. And this was done so easily, in your case, only because Christ could go through all that torture and all that brutality, and crossed over it. How much we should be indebted to Him, I don’t know words that can express, because He is the One who took lead in telling people that: “You seek, you seek and you’ll find.” and then He says that, “You have to come and bang at the door.” This is exactly what has happened in your case: that you have risen up to Agnya and then you have crossed beyond Agnya. This crossing of Agnya was not at all difficult for you. Though, by your own ideas of thinking and of conditioning, of the futuristic planning and all that, it was a big, big crowd of very black clouds [that] were hovering on the Agnya, thoughts were overpowering you, and you could not have penetrated through this Agnya which was all covered. But you did, and you never even felt that you have crossed the Agnya Chakra, so easily. So, first of all, we all should really be very thankful to Christ for opening the Agnya for you. For Him, all the tortures and all the brutality were nothing, because the purpose of His life, the purpose of His advent, His incarnation was to break the Agnya chakra. Today, you will find that even though your Agnya is opened out and you have crossed through, still you will be amazed that people get involved in the Agnya Chakra. In Sahaj Yoga, people do get involved in Agnya Chakra. Now, how do we see, through introspection, what happens to us? For example, once people come to Sahaj Yoga they think they are in charge: in charge of this, in charge of that, in charge of all the Sahaj Yogis. And they start behaving in a manner which doesn’t behove a Sahaj Yogi. It doesn’t. I have seen them and I really am amused the way they just start thrusting themselves [forward] and showing off that they are very much in charge. This is nothing modern: this used to be there with human beings. But if it was so, it was before Sahaj Yoga. Even now, people get into the mood of dominating others by saying that, “We are in charge!” Sahaj Yoga is not so simple as you think, because there are lots of temptations. Supposing you make somebody a leader: now, a leader becomes some sort of in charge and he gets the drunkenness of power. When he is like that, he starts dominating all the rest of the people and also starts showing off that he is something very great and he has to dominate all the rest of the people. Then he creates an atmosphere of fear. Firstly, I have seen, what happens with them is that, they start saying falsely that, “Mother has told this, Mother has said so. This is Mother’s idea.” I have nothing to do with that gentleman but he goes on talking like that and people get very frightened. Then also he can also frighten you by saying, “I will tell Mother! Mother will listen to me and She’ll punish you!” I am sometimes very surprised at such people because I have never said that I will punish somebody or I’ll take him out of Sahaj Yoga, nothing of the kind. So, this man who thinks no end of himself, he may be a leader, may not be a leader, may be nothing in Sahaj Yoga: and then he starts talking like this, in such a funny manner that it doesn’t look that the person is a Sahaj Yogi. Then he goes even further. He goes describing himself as something very great; as if he is the one who is chosen specially for rising higher and higher. When I hear about these things, I am really amazed! How can people befool themselves all the time and behave in such a manner? First thing in Sahaj Yoga is humility. If you are not a humble person, you cannot be a Sahaj Yogi. The person who orders about, the person who talks in a manner as if he is Hitler, any person who tries to control and be in charge of the thing, all these capacities only show that that person has achieved nothing in Sahaj Yoga. First thing is to enjoy the humility. I have seen people like this. They’ll always sit in the first row. They’ll be always sitting in a place where you just see them all the time there. I just smile: I know they are just show-offs, they think no end of themselves, and that’s why they are there. But they themselves are losing, they themselves are not very happy, that’s why they try to do all these tricks and this kind of domination. The other side of it is people who are humble, who are simple, who are honest and who are really seeking the Truth, are being oppressed by this gentleman. He oppresses them, tries to show off, tries to make slaves out of others. And I have seen people have gone so far, that there was a group of people who just would not move even an inch without the permission of their leader. And they would go all out to be subservient to such an irrational personality. First of all you know this is the love of Mother. Mother never dominates. She cannot dominate because She is nothing but love. As soon as She sees the problem, immediately She absorbs it. She has to make deliberations, just a drama sometimes, to show that She is angry. But She cannot basically be angry with anyone. It’s the love which all the time, all the time, is flowing and that love envelops the Mother as well as you. That is how you people understand Sahaj Yoga. What does a human being need is nothing but love and compassion. Love and compassion of a very, very pure type. Look at Christ. He pitied the people who crucified Him. He told His father, The God Almighty that, “Please forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing.” He could see that the blindness of these people, are doing wrong things and God the Father would be very annoyed, who is wrathful, and may destroy them. So, this is what was done with a very compassionate feeling without thinking about it, just automatically He felt that, “These people are doing all this to me and I don’t know what will happen to them.” So, He prayed to God, to Father, “Please forgive, please forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing, they are blind, so please do not punish them.” What compassion, what love! I mean, think of it: do we do that in our life if somebody harms us, troubles us? Do we ask Father to forgive those who do not know what they are doing? That should be the level of Sahaj Yoga. And it will work out very well if you ask for forgiveness, God will look after them, He’ll transform them, He’ll bring them to their senses. The messages of Christ are full of love, compassion, pure compassion. How He tried to protect Mary Magdalene is an example of them: who was leading a sinful life and for a saint He had nothing to do with her. But when He saw she being stoned by people, He stood against her, He took a stone in His own hand and He says, “Alright those who have not committed any wrong deed or have not committed any sin, can take this stone and hit me!” And nobody came forward, because they had to face themselves. When we are dominating others, then a kind of a cruel joy is there: some sort of a joy that I don’t understand, myself, but people have. They show off, that, “We have achieved this joy, we have achieved this great power.” It has happened for centuries with all the great emperors and also despotic rulers. But with Sahaj Yogis it should be the other way round. They have to rule the world with peace and love. They don’t have to show off by any chance. This is how Sahaj Yoga will spread much, much faster. What does the world need? You just think of it. It needs only love and affection. Those people who are yet lost in the ignorance about life and are still busy troubling others, torturing others, going against the collectivity will have to return to normalcy. It’s very abnormal behaviour sometimes and you just don’t understand why they behave like mad people. It is very difficult also to tell such people that, “You are mad!” And also is difficult to be with such a person who is so mad with some sort of a power. It goes on like that with so many Sahaj Yogis, I have seen who start thinking they have lots of powers, they think they can do whatever they like, they can talk to anyone and they can confuse everyone. But in Sahaj Yoga you don’t have to confuse, you have to clearly express your love. But that doesn’t mean any kind of particular gesture for a particular happening, but it is just an inner oneness with each other. Sometimes I find Sahaj Yogis so much understanding each other, so much loving each other, so beautifully enjoying the love of other people. When I see that, I feel very, very happy, absolutely overjoyed. That’s what I wanted - [that] these people should enjoy is there. And you will be amazed: the most enjoyable thing is the love that you give to others. You may not receive, but when you give love to others, then it’s the most enjoyable thing. But the way you express yourself is also an art I think, to understand how to please others, how to make them happy. I told this story before also, about a saint who lived in Gaganbawada: it’s a hill or a mountain. He used to live there. And he couldn’t walk. Because of vibrations, he lost his legs or something, the power in him. And then he would go all over the place on a tiger, because the tiger loved him and he loved the tiger. So, this gentleman was all the time telling people from Bombay, “What are you doing here? Mother has come, go and touch Her feet!” I didn’t know why he was so much concerned. So, I told Sahaj Yogis, “I must go and meet him.” So, all these gurus they say that, “We don’t leave our pillows (takiya). We have to be in our own pillow.” Means wherever they live, exist, they won’t go out. I’m the other way round, I am never stationed in one place! So, they asked if I could go, so I said, “Why not?” So, I went there and the Sahaj Yogis said that, “Mother, you never go anywhere, so why do you want to go here?” I said: “Alright, see the vibrations!” And it was tremendous vibrations! So, when I went up, this fellow was very angry with the rain because he was supposed to control the rain, he was supposed to be controlling the rain. It’s very surprising that when I went up, he not control [it] and I got completely drenched. So, he was very angry. He was sitting on a stone and doing like this (moving head from side to side) with anger. I didn’t say anything to him. I went inside and sat in the cave where he had made some arrangement for me to be seated. Then he came, he touched my feet and he sat down. And I was amazed that he was still angry and he couldn’t understand why the rain could not stop. So, he asked me, “Why did you not allow me to stop the rain? Because, after all, you were coming to see me all the way and the rain should have behaved! And I also could not, somehow or other, control the rain. So what was the thing, what was the lesson?” I just smiled. I said. “See, you are an ascetic, you are a sanyasi, and I am your Mother. I cannot take a sari from you because, after all, you are a sanyasi and you are not supposed to take anything from a sanyasi.” Even the Mother cannot take anything from him. “But you have bought a nice sari for me and I had to get drenched so that I could take a sari from you.” You see the sweetness of my telling him just made him melt away and he started crying. He said, “We need a Mother for this world. There should be The Mother.” We cannot solve the problem because whatever it is, we get angry. Or we want to disappear. We don’t want to be with these horrible people who are so sinful to help them. This is the problem with the world today and that’s why you find very few spiritual people in the whole world. Because they are the ones who are being very much tortured, troubled, insulted, all kinds of things happened. So they are struggling and struggling, so they want to die very fast. Gyaneshwara: such a great personality, such a great writer, poet. I mean, He was everything. So beautiful He has written. But at the age of 23, He took His Samadhi, means He went into a cave and closed the cave and died there. He must have been tired and fed up with the surroundings of ignorant people, and that’s why He did it. So, we can imagine a person like Gyaneshwara, who was the incarnation of Kartikeya, had to recede into the world of the dead because He could not bear it any more the way they were torturing them. They tortured Him so much, saying that He is the son of a sanyasi. I mean it’s like this: son of a sanyasi means, He’s no good. He’s absolutely like an illegitimate child, and He’s ill treated to such an extent. He didn’t even have shoes to wear: in that heat of India, He used to walk with bare feet. And His sister, brother who were great scholars, who were great saints, great incarnations, all of them suffered. As a result, He wanted just to disappear, and He made a beautiful way of doing it, that He told them that, “I have to go.” And He took leave from them, and went inside His cave, and got His Samadhi. Even Christ was very young when He was crucified. He was 33 years of age. It was all planned by the Divine that He was to be crucified to make way for our Sahaj Yoga, to open the Agnya, to sacrifice His life, and for Him to be hanged in such a horrendous, cruel way; which normally you do not find people behaving in such a manner towards a person who is about to die. So what happened [was] that those people who were in charge of His crucifixion must have been some devils, the way they behaved. It is not possible to forgive them, even if Christ, says. It’s difficult to forgive such people who were watching the crucifixion of Christ. So, if that is the case that a person like Him thought that, “Let me do my job: is to break Sahasrar.” And then He didn’t want to live, live with these stupid people to be tortured, and He just disappeared into Kashmir where He lived after His resurrection. Lots of stories are there about His ascent and His resurrection. And, all those stories, if you read, you’ll be amazed how miraculously He got His second birth or second life in Kashmir. He lived in Kashmir happily for some time with His mother and there He died. They say there’s a grave of our Lord Jesus Christ and also His Mother was there. But who has taken advantage of His life, from His life? Who are the people really who wanted Him to die? You know very well! You know very well. How Christ died, and the people came up suddenly, like Paul and Peter, who tried to make a big business out of it. It’s very sad to see that these two persons brought such a shame. This Paul was nothing but an organiser, I think. He was a person who was bureaucratic, I should say. But he was not only bureaucratic, he was also a man who wanted to have a big position. So he told a lie that: he went down to Damascus, and on his way, on his way he saw a big cross. According to Sahaj Yoga, all such signs are the sign of supraconscious. It’s not of the Spirit. And then he came back and he started his own research and things like that. And he’s written a lot of things. But throughout, if you read, you will find that he was not a Sahaj Yogi. He was just an organiser. He was a bureaucratic personality who was writing: “how we should administer, how we should have people who are different types of people, how should we manage them.” So he was the management department for the Christians. So the Christians also became extremely secretarial types like: everything has a time, you must come like this, you must sit like this, you must talk like this. And also the nations which are supposed to be Christians are observing all that in a very official manner. It is not understood why they are so much official in everything. Just the opposite [of] what Christ did [which] is to break the Agnya, they built up this. And the Christian nations became the most arrogant, most aggressive nations in the whole world. For them it was their right to occupy any land they saw. It was in their right to establish their own laws, their own assemblies. All this is done in India, I know. Even today, if you go to places like Punjab and all that you will find the people are just living like rustic people, working very hard, and they are all the time under attack from people who are dominating, and those who wanted the full advantage to be taken out of these people. It was a ridiculous thing to behave like that, as Christians. Then, also they started converting them. This is another nonsense – converting. Converting them. And in the South, what they did is to…we, Indians, never make breads. They don’t know how to use an oven in the South. So they made huge big cakes – you can call it a cake, or you can call it a bread – and put it in the water, or in a well, and they would say that, “We have put the part of the calf,” of a buffalo, or could be a cow, and they just believed them. And so, they said, “Now, you are finished, because you are no more belonging to Hindu religion or to any other religion. So, now, you have become Christians.” And that’s how they made thousands and thousands of people Christians who were actually downtrodden people, I should say. At least they would call themselves downtrodden. Now, all these downtrodden people, they wanted to have converted to Christianity because they thought they all wanted all such people who would just follow the missionaries and who would not question. Because they were not educated people, they were not people of any understanding or intelligence to understand what these people are. So, when they started this, tirade against the downtrodden people, so many of them joined them. Thus they found their own race and they started their business. This is a thing one should understand: how the dominating nature of people accepted a particular religion because that religion is nothing but humility. And how then these people, supposed to be in charge of Christianity, converted people into something absurd. It is a human nature: it can enjoy any nonsense, any kind of cruelty, any kind of oppression. It can never give up that realm, that area, where they have been dominating. Now as it is, the Christian nations have gone even beyond that because among the Christians it is all the freedom given to them, they are ‘liberated’: “Do whatever you may like if you become Christian! You are all right.” Isn’t it? They are the ones who have been dominating, and those who are dominated are there, everywhere. They would go to ordinary people whom you can call as Aboriginals and convert them. Their main method was to convert. What was the need to convert so many people? Because in democracy it is important that the number you have should be large. So to gain the number, they used to convert. And it has ruined so many things. See, the whole situation of Christ really makes me feel very nervous. Today, you all are Sahaj Yogis. You are all so much higher than others, you have all the powers. And then supposing you want to behave like the Christians, I don’t know what you will do. So now you are on the verge where Sahaj Yoga is accepted in different countries. And there people respect people who are Sahaj Yogis, they have [been] given positions. Then suddenly you might get this power business into your head, and you may try, you may try to become like a despot, because that is human nature: that’s not Divine, but that’s a human nature. For example, when in the kingdom of the animals, they are aggressive on each other - it’s all right, it’s permitted, it’s done. But there is a system, there’s a way, there’s a method how they dominate. It’s not like they jump on everyone. But I have seen in Sahaj Yoga, many people, you make them a leader, finished! Then, he sits on everybody’s head. If you don’t make them a leader, then they go on writing letters to me, one after another, that, “Mother, we want to be leader. I want to be a leader.” Like this they go on insisting on that. For what do you want to be a leader? Just to dominate others. And this domination business is not meant for a Sahaj Yogi. I am here today to tell you about the beautiful image of Christ who rose above death. In the same way let the death of all nonsensical ideas, all negative thoughts: everything has to be overcome now. You have to be the Lord of yourself, and in that you should feel so comforted, so happy. In giving others, you will find it very much easier than taking something from others. It’s very, very surprising how Sahaj Yoga has taught you all these things. In Sahaj Yog people have to say that, “They are very wonderful, they are very beautiful people, they are very loving, they are very kind.” I want to hear that all the time about you all, that you all are individually or collectively, you are something outstandingly great. But this greatness is not by domination or by showing off but is coming from within. People see you and know it is something, and that is how Sahaj Yoga is going to spread. It’s the Christ within you who has to arise, Christ within you who has to guide. It is Christ within you who will teach how to behave towards others and how to gain their confidence, and give them the love and peace that you have now flowing within you, to make them very, very, happy and joyous people. This is the message of resurrection. This is the message of breaking the Sahasrar. So this egg which was described in the - very surprising - very clearly described in the Devi Mahatmyam: how this egg was formed and was broken into two, and from one part of the egg came out Christ. Another part was Shri Ganesha. It’s all written down. But this Christ is described as Mahavishnu, not as Christ. So this Mahavishnu then rose, and He does all these, all wonderful things. It’s a real message, beautifully written, by the life of Christ that now, as we are thoughtlessly aware now, we have to express that light through our lives. And we have to show to the world that we are quite capable, and that only we are within ourselves, absolutely complete. We don’t want anything from others. What we want now is to give whatever we have achieved to others. This is what people are looking at you and at all the Sahaj Yogis. May God bless you all! Thinking of Christ, I find it impossible to keep awake even, because to keep in these modern times is very difficult when you are thinking of Christ and talking about Him. It’s just something, shows that how people never understood such a great man, such a great personality. And He was Divine, absolutely Divine. And despite that, He made a drama to go through all the sufferings. It’s very painful even to remember all that, how He crucified Himself, and He how He died. But the main point is this: He’s done it for you, for all of you. And you are so indebted to Him. It is His work which has helped the Kundalini to be awakened and could pass through this fontanel bone area. All this would have been impossible without the sacrifice of Christ. You all should deserve to have some sacrifices. This is a very symbolic thing that has happened. And you all should be all the time prepared to sacrifice whatever is possible for the emancipation of humanity. It’s very, very subtle at this moment now: forget about your seeking, forget about everything! What is needed is that you have to remember all the time that you are saved, you are being blessed, by the sacrifices of Christ. It’s very important. May God bless you all!

Easter Puja. Istanbul (Turkey), 19 April 1998. Today, we are celebrating the Resurrection of Christ. That is the greatest message of Christ life, not the crucifixion. Anybody can be crucified and killed, but this dead body of Christ was resurrected from death. Death itself died and He overcame it. It’s a miracle for ordinary human beings, definitely, but not for Christ, because He was a Divine person, He was Shri Ganesha, He was Omkara Itself. So, He could walk on the water, gravity would not affect Him, and also He got resurrected because death could not affect Him. Such a great Divine personality, specially created for human beings that people should recognise Him. But they did not recognise Him, they killed Him, in a very brutal manner. And even now they think [the] cross is a great thing because Christ died on a cross. It’s a very cruel idea of human beings to respect the cross. What does it show? It shows that people liked all the cruelties done to Him, symbolising cross as the one that represented His death and these atrocities, the way He was tortured. So, it was a very sad time when He was crucified. But when He got resurrected it was the most joyous, most auspicious and most beautiful time. The resurrection of Christ is very symbolic for Sahaj Yoga. If Christ could be resurrected, then if human beings also can be resurrected, because He came as a human being with all powers and He created the path of resurrection for us. This path of resurrection is the one that we have followed in Sahaj Yoga. But the greatest thing is the piercing of the Agnya Chakra, which is described in all spiritual treaties, or may be called as, the scriptures that, that is the door which is golden, which is like a cover and no one can pass through that, so constricted is this door of Agnya Chakra. But Christ did cross that. His crossing has helped us today to open your Agnya. Without opening the Agnya you cannot go to Sahasrar. And this was done so easily, in your case, only because Christ could go through all that torture and all that brutality, and crossed over it. How much we should be indebted to Him, I don’t know words that can express, because He is the One who took lead in telling people that: “You seek, you seek and you’ll find.” and then He says that, “You have to come and bang at the door.” This is exactly what has happened in your case: that you have risen up to Agnya and then you have crossed beyond Agnya. This crossing of Agnya was not at all difficult for you. Though, by your own ideas of thinking and of conditioning, of the futuristic planning and all that, it was a big, big crowd of very black clouds [that] were hovering on the Agnya, thoughts were overpowering you, and you could not have penetrated through this Agnya which was all covered. But you did, and you never even felt that you have crossed the Agnya Chakra, so easily. So, first of all, we all should really be very thankful to Christ for opening the Agnya for you. For Him, all the tortures and all the brutality were nothing, because the purpose of His life, the purpose of His advent, His incarnation was to break the Agnya chakra. Today, you will find that even though your Agnya is opened out and you have crossed through, still you will be amazed that people get involved in the Agnya Chakra. In Sahaj Yoga, people do get involved in Agnya Chakra. Now, how do we see, through introspection, what happens to us? For example, once people come to Sahaj Yoga they think they are in charge: in charge of this, in charge of that, in charge of all the Sahaj Yogis. And they start behaving in a manner which doesn’t behove a Sahaj Yogi. It doesn’t. I have seen them and I really am amused the way they just start thrusting themselves [forward] and showing off that they are very much in charge. This is nothing modern: this used to be there with human beings. But if it was so, it was before Sahaj Yoga. Even now, people get into the mood of dominating others by saying that, “We are in charge!” Sahaj Yoga is not so simple as you think, because there are lots of temptations. Supposing you make somebody a leader: now, a leader becomes some sort of in charge and he gets the drunkenness of power. When he is like that, he starts dominating all the rest of the people and also starts showing off that he is something very great and he has to dominate all the rest of the people. Then he creates an atmosphere of fear. Firstly, I have seen, what happens with them is that, they start saying falsely that, “Mother has told this, Mother has said so. This is Mother’s idea.” I have nothing to do with that gentleman but he goes on talking like that and people get very frightened. Then also he can also frighten you by saying, “I will tell Mother! Mother will listen to me and She’ll punish you!” I am sometimes very surprised at such people because I have never said that I will punish somebody or I’ll take him out of Sahaj Yoga, nothing of the kind. So, this man who thinks no end of himself, he may be a leader, may not be a leader, may be nothing in Sahaj Yoga: and then he starts talking like this, in such a funny manner that it doesn’t look that the person is a Sahaj Yogi. Then he goes even further. He goes describing himself as something very great; as if he is the one who is chosen specially for rising higher and higher. When I hear about these things, I am really amazed! How can people befool themselves all the time and behave in such a manner? First thing in Sahaj Yoga is humility. If you are not a humble person, you cannot be a Sahaj Yogi. The person who orders about, the person who talks in a manner as if he is Hitler, any person who tries to control and be in charge of the thing, all these capacities only show that that person has achieved nothing in Sahaj Yoga. First thing is to enjoy the humility. I have seen people like this. They’ll always sit in the first row. They’ll be always sitting in a place where you just see them all the time there. I just smile: I know they are just show-offs, they think no end of themselves, and that’s why they are there. But they themselves are losing, they themselves are not very happy, that’s why they try to do all these tricks and this kind of domination. The other side of it is people who are humble, who are simple, who are honest and who are really seeking the Truth, are being oppressed by this gentleman. He oppresses them, tries to show off, tries to make slaves out of others. And I have seen people have gone so far, that there was a group of people who just would not move even an inch without the permission of their leader. And they would go all out to be subservient to such an irrational personality. First of all you know this is the love of Mother. Mother never dominates. She cannot dominate because She is nothing but love. As soon as She sees the problem, immediately She absorbs it. She has to make deliberations, just a drama sometimes, to show that She is angry. But She cannot basically be angry with anyone. It’s the love which all the time, all the time, is flowing and that love envelops the Mother as well as you. That is how you people understand Sahaj Yoga. What does a human being need is nothing but love and compassion. Love and compassion of a very, very pure type. Look at Christ. He pitied the people who crucified Him. He told His father, The God Almighty that, “Please forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing.” He could see that the blindness of these people, are doing wrong things and God the Father would be very annoyed, who is wrathful, and may destroy them. So, this is what was done with a very compassionate feeling without thinking about it, just automatically He felt that, “These people are doing all this to me and I don’t know what will happen to them.” So, He prayed to God, to Father, “Please forgive, please forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing, they are blind, so please do not punish them.” What compassion, what love! I mean, think of it: do we do that in our life if somebody harms us, troubles us? Do we ask Father to forgive those who do not know what they are doing? That should be the level of Sahaj Yoga. And it will work out very well if you ask for forgiveness, God will look after them, He’ll transform them, He’ll bring them to their senses. The messages of Christ are full of love, compassion, pure compassion. How He tried to protect Mary Magdalene is an example of them: who was leading a sinful life and for a saint He had nothing to do with her. But when He saw she being stoned by people, He stood against her, He took a stone in His own hand and He says, “Alright those who have not committed any wrong deed or have not committed any sin, can take this stone and hit me!” And nobody came forward, because they had to face themselves. When we are dominating others, then a kind of a cruel joy is there: some sort of a joy that I don’t understand, myself, but people have. They show off, that, “We have achieved this joy, we have achieved this great power.” It has happened for centuries with all the great emperors and also despotic rulers. But with Sahaj Yogis it should be the other way round. They have to rule the world with peace and love. They don’t have to show off by any chance. This is how Sahaj Yoga will spread much, much faster. What does the world need? You just think of it. It needs only love and affection. Those people who are yet lost in the ignorance about life and are still busy troubling others, torturing others, going against the collectivity will have to return to normalcy. It’s very abnormal behaviour sometimes and you just don’t understand why they behave like mad people. It is very difficult also to tell such people that, “You are mad!” And also is difficult to be with such a person who is so mad with some sort of a power. It goes on like that with so many Sahaj Yogis, I have seen who start thinking they have lots of powers, they think they can do whatever they like, they can talk to anyone and they can confuse everyone. But in Sahaj Yoga you don’t have to confuse, you have to clearly express your love. But that doesn’t mean any kind of particular gesture for a particular happening, but it is just an inner oneness with each other. Sometimes I find Sahaj Yogis so much understanding each other, so much loving each other, so beautifully enjoying the love of other people. When I see that, I feel very, very happy, absolutely overjoyed. That’s what I wanted - [that] these people should enjoy is there. And you will be amazed: the most enjoyable thing is the love that you give to others. You may not receive, but when you give love to others, then it’s the most enjoyable thing. But the way you express yourself is also an art I think, to understand how to please others, how to make them happy. I told this story before also, about a saint who lived in Gaganbawada: it’s a hill or a mountain. He used to live there. And he couldn’t walk. Because of vibrations, he lost his legs or something, the power in him. And then he would go all over the place on a tiger, because the tiger loved him and he loved the tiger. So, this gentleman was all the time telling people from Bombay, “What are you doing here? Mother has come, go and touch Her feet!” I didn’t know why he was so much concerned. So, I told Sahaj Yogis, “I must go and meet him.” So, all these gurus they say that, “We don’t leave our pillows (takiya). We have to be in our own pillow.” Means wherever they live, exist, they won’t go out. I’m the other way round, I am never stationed in one place! So, they asked if I could go, so I said, “Why not?” So, I went there and the Sahaj Yogis said that, “Mother, you never go anywhere, so why do you want to go here?” I said: “Alright, see the vibrations!” And it was tremendous vibrations! So, when I went up, this fellow was very angry with the rain because he was supposed to control the rain, he was supposed to be controlling the rain. It’s very surprising that when I went up, he not control [it] and I got completely drenched. So, he was very angry. He was sitting on a stone and doing like this (moving head from side to side) with anger. I didn’t say anything to him. I went inside and sat in the cave where he had made some arrangement for me to be seated. Then he came, he touched my feet and he sat down. And I was amazed that he was still angry and he couldn’t understand why the rain could not stop. So, he asked me, “Why did you not allow me to stop the rain? Because, after all, you were coming to see me all the way and the rain should have behaved! And I also could not, somehow or other, control the rain. So what was the thing, what was the lesson?” I just smiled. I said. “See, you are an ascetic, you are a sanyasi, and I am your Mother. I cannot take a sari from you because, after all, you are a sanyasi and you are not supposed to take anything from a sanyasi.” Even the Mother cannot take anything from him. “But you have bought a nice sari for me and I had to get drenched so that I could take a sari from you.” You see the sweetness of my telling him just made him melt away and he started crying. He said, “We need a Mother for this world. There should be The Mother.” We cannot solve the problem because whatever it is, we get angry. Or we want to disappear. We don’t want to be with these horrible people who are so sinful to help them. This is the problem with the world today and that’s why you find very few spiritual people in the whole world. Because they are the ones who are being very much tortured, troubled, insulted, all kinds of things happened. So they are struggling and struggling, so they want to die very fast. Gyaneshwara: such a great personality, such a great writer, poet. I mean, He was everything. So beautiful He has written. But at the age of 23, He took His Samadhi, means He went into a cave and closed the cave and died there. He must have been tired and fed up with the surroundings of ignorant people, and that’s why He did it. So, we can imagine a person like Gyaneshwara, who was the incarnation of Kartikeya, had to recede into the world of the dead because He could not bear it any more the way they were torturing them. They tortured Him so much, saying that He is the son of a sanyasi. I mean it’s like this: son of a sanyasi means, He’s no good. He’s absolutely like an illegitimate child, and He’s ill treated to such an extent. He didn’t even have shoes to wear: in that heat of India, He used to walk with bare feet. And His sister, brother who were great scholars, who were great saints, great incarnations, all of them suffered. As a result, He wanted just to disappear, and He made a beautiful way of doing it, that He told them that, “I have to go.” And He took leave from them, and went inside His cave, and got His Samadhi. Even Christ was very young when He was crucified. He was 33 years of age. It was all planned by the Divine that He was to be crucified to make way for our Sahaj Yoga, to open the Agnya, to sacrifice His life, and for Him to be hanged in such a horrendous, cruel way; which normally you do not find people behaving in such a manner towards a person who is about to die. So what happened [was] that those people who were in charge of His crucifixion must have been some devils, the way they behaved. It is not possible to forgive them, even if Christ, says. It’s difficult to forgive such people who were watching the crucifixion of Christ. So, if that is the case that a person like Him thought that, “Let me do my job: is to break Sahasrar.” And then He didn’t want to live, live with these stupid people to be tortured, and He just disappeared into Kashmir where He lived after His resurrection. Lots of stories are there about His ascent and His resurrection. And, all those stories, if you read, you’ll be amazed how miraculously He got His second birth or second life in Kashmir. He lived in Kashmir happily for some time with His mother and there He died. They say there’s a grave of our Lord Jesus Christ and also His Mother was there. But who has taken advantage of His life, from His life? Who are the people really who wanted Him to die? You know very well! You know very well. How Christ died, and the people came up suddenly, like Paul and Peter, who tried to make a big business out of it. It’s very sad to see that these two persons brought such a shame. This Paul was nothing but an organiser, I think. He was a person who was bureaucratic, I should say. But he was not only bureaucratic, he was also a man who wanted to have a big position. So he told a lie that: he went down to Damascus, and on his way, on his way he saw a big cross. According to Sahaj Yoga, all such signs are the sign of supraconscious. It’s not of the Spirit. And then he came back and he started his own research and things like that. And he’s written a lot of things. But throughout, if you read, you will find that he was not a Sahaj Yogi. He was just an organiser. He was a bureaucratic personality who was writing: “how we should administer, how we should have people who are different types of people, how should we manage them.” So he was the management department for the Christians. So the Christians also became extremely secretarial types like: everything has a time, you must come like this, you must sit like this, you must talk like this. And also the nations which are supposed to be Christians are observing all that in a very official manner. It is not understood why they are so much official in everything. Just the opposite [of] what Christ did [which] is to break the Agnya, they built up this. And the Christian nations became the most arrogant, most aggressive nations in the whole world. For them it was their right to occupy any land they saw. It was in their right to establish their own laws, their own assemblies. All this is done in India, I know. Even today, if you go to places like Punjab and all that you will find the people are just living like rustic people, working very hard, and they are all the time under attack from people who are dominating, and those who wanted the full advantage to be taken out of these people. It was a ridiculous thing to behave like that, as Christians. Then, also they started converting them. This is another nonsense – converting. Converting them. And in the South, what they did is to…we, Indians, never make breads. They don’t know how to use an oven in the South. So they made huge big cakes – you can call it a cake, or you can call it a bread – and put it in the water, or in a well, and they would say that, “We have put the part of the calf,” of a buffalo, or could be a cow, and they just believed them. And so, they said, “Now, you are finished, because you are no more belonging to Hindu religion or to any other religion. So, now, you have become Christians.” And that’s how they made thousands and thousands of people Christians who were actually downtrodden people, I should say. At least they would call themselves downtrodden. Now, all these downtrodden people, they wanted to have converted to Christianity because they thought they all wanted all such people who would just follow the missionaries and who would not question. Because they were not educated people, they were not people of any understanding or intelligence to understand what these people are. So, when they started this, tirade against the downtrodden people, so many of them joined them. Thus they found their own race and they started their business. This is a thing one should understand: how the dominating nature of people accepted a particular religion because that religion is nothing but humility. And how then these people, supposed to be in charge of Christianity, converted people into something absurd. It is a human nature: it can enjoy any nonsense, any kind of cruelty, any kind of oppression. It can never give up that realm, that area, where they have been dominating. Now as it is, the Christian nations have gone even beyond that because among the Christians it is all the freedom given to them, they are ‘liberated’: “Do whatever you may like if you become Christian! You are all right.” Isn’t it? They are the ones who have been dominating, and those who are dominated are there, everywhere. They would go to ordinary people whom you can call as Aboriginals and convert them. Their main method was to convert. What was the need to convert so many people? Because in democracy it is important that the number you have should be large. So to gain the number, they used to convert. And it has ruined so many things. See, the whole situation of Christ really makes me feel very nervous. Today, you all are Sahaj Yogis. You are all so much higher than others, you have all the powers. And then supposing you want to behave like the Christians, I don’t know what you will do. So now you are on the verge where Sahaj Yoga is accepted in different countries. And there people respect people who are Sahaj Yogis, they have [been] given positions. Then suddenly you might get this power business into your head, and you may try, you may try to become like a despot, because that is human nature: that’s not Divine, but that’s a human nature. For example, when in the kingdom of the animals, they are aggressive on each other - it’s all right, it’s permitted, it’s done. But there is a system, there’s a way, there’s a method how they dominate. It’s not like they jump on everyone. But I have seen in Sahaj Yoga, many people, you make them a leader, finished! Then, he sits on everybody’s head. If you don’t make them a leader, then they go on writing letters to me, one after another, that, “Mother, we want to be leader. I want to be a leader.” Like this they go on insisting on that. For what do you want to be a leader? Just to dominate others. And this domination business is not meant for a Sahaj Yogi. I am here today to tell you about the beautiful image of Christ who rose above death. In the same way let the death of all nonsensical ideas, all negative thoughts: everything has to be overcome now. You have to be the Lord of yourself, and in that you should feel so comforted, so happy. In giving others, you will find it very much easier than taking something from others. It’s very, very surprising how Sahaj Yoga has taught you all these things. In Sahaj Yog people have to say that, “They are very wonderful, they are very beautiful people, they are very loving, they are very kind.” I want to hear that all the time about you all, that you all are individually or collectively, you are something outstandingly great. But this greatness is not by domination or by showing off but is coming from within. People see you and know it is something, and that is how Sahaj Yoga is going to spread. It’s the Christ within you who has to arise, Christ within you who has to guide. It is Christ within you who will teach how to behave towards others and how to gain their confidence, and give them the love and peace that you have now flowing within you, to make them very, very, happy and joyous people. This is the message of resurrection. This is the message of breaking the Sahasrar. So this egg which was described in the - very surprising - very clearly described in the Devi Mahatmyam: how this egg was formed and was broken into two, and from one part of the egg came out Christ. Another part was Shri Ganesha. It’s all written down. But this Christ is described as Mahavishnu, not as Christ. So this Mahavishnu then rose, and He does all these, all wonderful things. It’s a real message, beautifully written, by the life of Christ that now, as we are thoughtlessly aware now, we have to express that light through our lives. And we have to show to the world that we are quite capable, and that only we are within ourselves, absolutely complete. We don’t want anything from others. What we want now is to give whatever we have achieved to others. This is what people are looking at you and at all the Sahaj Yogis. May God bless you all! Thinking of Christ, I find it impossible to keep awake even, because to keep in these modern times is very difficult when you are thinking of Christ and talking about Him. It’s just something, shows that how people never understood such a great man, such a great personality. And He was Divine, absolutely Divine. And despite that, He made a drama to go through all the sufferings. It’s very painful even to remember all that, how He crucified Himself, and He how He died. But the main point is this: He’s done it for you, for all of you. And you are so indebted to Him. It is His work which has helped the Kundalini to be awakened and could pass through this fontanel bone area. All this would have been impossible without the sacrifice of Christ. You all should deserve to have some sacrifices. This is a very symbolic thing that has happened. And you all should be all the time prepared to sacrifice whatever is possible for the emancipation of humanity. It’s very, very subtle at this moment now: forget about your seeking, forget about everything! What is needed is that you have to remember all the time that you are saved, you are being blessed, by the sacrifices of Christ. It’s very important. May God bless you all!

4/20/1998

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Harbiye Military Museum, Şişli-Istanbul (Turkey) 20.04.1998 I bow to all the seekers of truth. First of all we have to know what is the truth. Truth is that, you are not this body, this mind, these emotions, conditioning but you are the pure spirit. The spirit is the reflexion of God God Almighty in your heart. So you have to seek the spirit which resides in your heart. The spirit is the source of peace, of joy but when you achieve that you get rid of all your physical, mental, emotional and spiritual problems. Especially your country is very much blessed by so many Sufis you have. The word Sufi itself comes from saffa, cleanliness, cleansing. How will this saffa will express. To begin with, Prophet Mohammed has said that you must pray and surrender yourself to the Divine. By praying you will keep your attention on the Divine seeking. But it doesn’t work out that way. It was human beings have so many weaknesses. They do not know the straight path but they go astrayed. That is why you have to have your ascent to reach the spirit state. To reach that spirit state, there is within us the power which can give you that great state of spirituality. Already it is existing in all of you. Whatever religion you may follow, it is there. It is a gift from the Divine that you can achieve your ascent which is call as miraj (ascension) in the Quran. This miraj, it is only possible, if you ask for it, if you want it. It cannot be forced. It cannot be pushed into it. It is a naturel sprouting of your being. Like a seed, you cannot break it. You have to put it in the Mother Earth. It is a naturel process of evolution. We have to know to become the spirit and that is the promise of modern times. As it is, modern times is full of all kinds of negative forces, within and without. And the human being has become restless. So human being has to be transformed. With the kind of human being we have we cannot solve any problem, because human beings live in the future or in the past. They cannot live in the present. And in the present is the reality, not in the past, nor in the future, because they don’t exist. So all this turmoil, all these tensions are because we are not at peace with ourselves and with others. We have been already told about the inner being within us. You don’t have to believe because I am saying so. You can experience. The second truth is that there is all pervading power that we called as ruh. This power is existing thoughout. You see the beautiful flowers and you take them for granted. It is a miracle. All naturel activity is a miracle. Now only a new miracle has to work it out. And this new miracle is actually, the ascent of human beings in a very large scale. These centres as you see here, are responsible for our physical, mental and emotional being. Now this miraj has to take place within yourselves. And Mohammed Sahab himself has said that when you will get your Brahma, you can call it the self-realization, then your hands will speak. One wonders how can hands speak or what happens that when you get the ascent, you can feel this all-pervading power on your fingertips. And you can feel the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost as the Christians call it, the Ruh. And all these chakras, you can feel it on your fingertips, clearly. And you know what are you suffering from, what is wrong with you. This is how you get self-knowledge, knowledge about ourselves. Otherwise you don’t know. Say, if you are suffering from cancer. You will not know otherwise I mean unless and until go through the whole tests of the diagnoses by the doctors. But with this you will know immediately, what problems you have on your physical level or mental level and also your spiritual level in a way that is such as that certain centres are out of [UNCLEAR]. Also you may know how to get yourself all right, how to cure your centres. Thus you will also know about others, what is wrong with them. Because you have a new dimension in your awareness, which we call as collective consciousness. And this happens to you automatically. You start feeling the vibrations of other person, again on your fingertips. And when that happens if you know how to cure them, you can cure others also. As it is when the kundalini rises on your central nervous system, I should say on your through the different chakras then it nourishes those chakras. And if it is something is obstructing, you will also know how to clear the way. Ultimately you will feel the cool breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area. You can feel it. It is not just a sermon or a lecture but you can actually experience it. And you are amazed that yourselves. That is how you are connected to this all-pervading power. This all-pervading power, which is doing all the living work. If you ask the doctor who runs your heart so he will say, it is autonomous nerves system but who is this auto. They will be very honest, they cannot tell you the answer. The time has come, all of you to get your miraj, your ascent. It has nothing to do with outside. It is all happen inside. This kundalini is your own mother. Every one of you have your individual mother. And she knows everything about you. She knows what are your conditionings, what are your inspirations. And she is so careful that very gentle she rises, you don’t know feel her rises. And the result you get your ascent not only that but you get your power to bring others to this ascent. It is something they call miraculous. It is a process of evolution that has to enter now. Of course, you cannot pay for it. God almighty doesn’t understand money or banking. You cannot do any rituals for it. Only thing you have to have the pure desire to have it. And it works out. Of course there is somebody who is suffering from some diseases or some patients, then it may not work and passed. But this obstruction can be removed. So as I told you, you develop collective consciousness. Like a drop a water falls in the ocean, it becomes the ocean. You are no more there, you are lost in the collective. When we say Allahu- Akbar, we mean that ocean where we are part and parcel of the ocean. Quran is not only for the Muslims, nor Gita is only for Hindus. They say the same thing; they say the same thing that you have to be one with the Divine. Only problem is that, it all written in poetic language. And people can change, can make them little intrigate and ambiguous. But once you have your miraj and once you become the spirit, you see the oneness in between the lines. All our false ideas drop and we understand that, we have been fighting for nothing at all. Not only this, but look at your peace within yourselves. We live as I said in the past, in the future and the thoughts come up like a wave, like that and again disappear. In the centre there is a little gap, that is the present. We are all the time bombarding by thoughts, either from the future or from the past. But this happening, the kundalini separates and makes the thoughts belong it. And you become again I’m saying, again I’m saying, you become thoughtlessly aware. That’s how we achieve our peace within. And then whatever you think is coming from the Divine source. With this Divine source, you see the truth. And the truth you see, that this all-pervading power is the power of Divine love. As we say it is rahmet (God's mercy), rahmet. All right, this rahmet is coming from the Divine and makes us full of love and joy and affection. We feel the whole world is full of happiness and of this love. All these enemies of hatred, of jealousies and all these our enemies just drop out because the spirit is pure and it has no such manifestations. And in the light of the spirit, we see clearly, what is right and what is wrong. Supposing now before you, there is a man standing who is a cheat, immediately you can feel it on your fingertips, what sort of man he is. And if a saint is before you, you can feel tremendous vibrations. For example, to know about Mohammed Sahab thoroughly, you have to see his vibration, about Christ also. You can find out about all of them, very clearly. The life becomes very peaceful, joy giving. And the countries will change when this transformation take place. I will request you to read a book which a French lady has written about Sahaja Yoga and Quran. I read Quran with my father, He translate it into Hindu. It is amazing how it talks of reality. Then came Guru Nanaka, he talks the same. But they just read the book, night after night. They are so blind, they cannot see the truth. I think people in Turkey are maybe wise and get the truth. I am sure they can pave the way for all the Islamic countries who are suffering for nothing. Say, tomorrow rest of life, it is all dark, then what will happen, so many people will be killed. Only in the light of spirit, you can see what is reality. All this great people came on this earth, to tell us this. When it happens you form a beautiful group, collective being, we can call it collectively of people of all the nation. Already, Sahaja Yoga is working in 70 countries. Most surprising was Russia. I never expected that Sahaja Yoga will be taken and go so deeply in Russia. But because, maybe of the suppression with the communism, communist or maybe that they were told not to read any books or anything about the God. They are so clean, such a clean state. There was no conditioning and they were absolutely sensitive about it. In that country, they have not excepted anyone but for Islam and Orthodox Christianity and Sahaja Yoga. It is very surprising, how they see truth, the reality, the honesty of Sahaja Yoga. As I said, I have very great hopes for Turkish people. That they can come to Sahaja Yoga and see for themselves, what is the reality and get all Muslim worlds into it. That you don’t have to tell them, don’t do that, don’t do this, they don’t just do it. They become so powerful within. And so many miracles take place in their lives. That is what is going to happen to you all. Only thing you have to have pure desire. It will hardly take about 10 minutes to have it. But just you have to sit quietly and allow to have this. Of course it is entirely depend on you, whether you want to have your miraj or not. As it is I have told, you can’t pay for it. You can’t demand it. It works with people who want it from their heart. So, those who do not want, I cannot force as I said, you have to leave the hall. It will be very kind of you. All right, one thing I have to request, I hope you don’t mind, you have to take out your shoes. Because mother earth helps us a lot. All right, please open your hands like this as you do for namaz (muslim pray). One thing, you have to do is to forgive everyone. Many say, it is difficult to do it. But actually, logically if you see whether you forgive or don’t forgive you don’t do anything. But if you don’t forgive then you play in the wrong hands and torture yourselves for nothing. So please just say in your heart that I forgive everyone. You may call me Mother or Shri Mataji, you can say, Mother I forgive everyone. Now you see, just keep your hands in a very relax manner. You can close your eyes. Now, raise your left hand, on top of your fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Now, see for yourselves, is it a cool or hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area. You can move the hand little bit and bend your head. Now put your left hand towards me and right hand on top of your head again. When we bend head on the fontanel bone area. You can move your hand up and down, also sideways. Now put both your hands towards me again and you can open your eyes. Now see for yourselves if you are feeling any cool breeze like on your fingertips or maybe hot. Now watch me without thinking. You can do it. All those who have felt cool or hot breeze on their fingertips or on their palm or out of their fontanel bone area, please raise both your hands, both your hands. All of you.

Harbiye Military Museum, Şişli-Istanbul (Turkey) 20.04.1998 I bow to all the seekers of truth. First of all we have to know what is the truth. Truth is that, you are not this body, this mind, these emotions, conditioning but you are the pure spirit. The spirit is the reflexion of God God Almighty in your heart. So you have to seek the spirit which resides in your heart. The spirit is the source of peace, of joy but when you achieve that you get rid of all your physical, mental, emotional and spiritual problems. Especially your country is very much blessed by so many Sufis you have. The word Sufi itself comes from saffa, cleanliness, cleansing. How will this saffa will express. To begin with, Prophet Mohammed has said that you must pray and surrender yourself to the Divine. By praying you will keep your attention on the Divine seeking. But it doesn’t work out that way. It was human beings have so many weaknesses. They do not know the straight path but they go astrayed. That is why you have to have your ascent to reach the spirit state. To reach that spirit state, there is within us the power which can give you that great state of spirituality. Already it is existing in all of you. Whatever religion you may follow, it is there. It is a gift from the Divine that you can achieve your ascent which is call as miraj (ascension) in the Quran. This miraj, it is only possible, if you ask for it, if you want it. It cannot be forced. It cannot be pushed into it. It is a naturel sprouting of your being. Like a seed, you cannot break it. You have to put it in the Mother Earth. It is a naturel process of evolution. We have to know to become the spirit and that is the promise of modern times. As it is, modern times is full of all kinds of negative forces, within and without. And the human being has become restless. So human being has to be transformed. With the kind of human being we have we cannot solve any problem, because human beings live in the future or in the past. They cannot live in the present. And in the present is the reality, not in the past, nor in the future, because they don’t exist. So all this turmoil, all these tensions are because we are not at peace with ourselves and with others. We have been already told about the inner being within us. You don’t have to believe because I am saying so. You can experience. The second truth is that there is all pervading power that we called as ruh. This power is existing thoughout. You see the beautiful flowers and you take them for granted. It is a miracle. All naturel activity is a miracle. Now only a new miracle has to work it out. And this new miracle is actually, the ascent of human beings in a very large scale. These centres as you see here, are responsible for our physical, mental and emotional being. Now this miraj has to take place within yourselves. And Mohammed Sahab himself has said that when you will get your Brahma, you can call it the self-realization, then your hands will speak. One wonders how can hands speak or what happens that when you get the ascent, you can feel this all-pervading power on your fingertips. And you can feel the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost as the Christians call it, the Ruh. And all these chakras, you can feel it on your fingertips, clearly. And you know what are you suffering from, what is wrong with you. This is how you get self-knowledge, knowledge about ourselves. Otherwise you don’t know. Say, if you are suffering from cancer. You will not know otherwise I mean unless and until go through the whole tests of the diagnoses by the doctors. But with this you will know immediately, what problems you have on your physical level or mental level and also your spiritual level in a way that is such as that certain centres are out of [UNCLEAR]. Also you may know how to get yourself all right, how to cure your centres. Thus you will also know about others, what is wrong with them. Because you have a new dimension in your awareness, which we call as collective consciousness. And this happens to you automatically. You start feeling the vibrations of other person, again on your fingertips. And when that happens if you know how to cure them, you can cure others also. As it is when the kundalini rises on your central nervous system, I should say on your through the different chakras then it nourishes those chakras. And if it is something is obstructing, you will also know how to clear the way. Ultimately you will feel the cool breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area. You can feel it. It is not just a sermon or a lecture but you can actually experience it. And you are amazed that yourselves. That is how you are connected to this all-pervading power. This all-pervading power, which is doing all the living work. If you ask the doctor who runs your heart so he will say, it is autonomous nerves system but who is this auto. They will be very honest, they cannot tell you the answer. The time has come, all of you to get your miraj, your ascent. It has nothing to do with outside. It is all happen inside. This kundalini is your own mother. Every one of you have your individual mother. And she knows everything about you. She knows what are your conditionings, what are your inspirations. And she is so careful that very gentle she rises, you don’t know feel her rises. And the result you get your ascent not only that but you get your power to bring others to this ascent. It is something they call miraculous. It is a process of evolution that has to enter now. Of course, you cannot pay for it. God almighty doesn’t understand money or banking. You cannot do any rituals for it. Only thing you have to have the pure desire to have it. And it works out. Of course there is somebody who is suffering from some diseases or some patients, then it may not work and passed. But this obstruction can be removed. So as I told you, you develop collective consciousness. Like a drop a water falls in the ocean, it becomes the ocean. You are no more there, you are lost in the collective. When we say Allahu- Akbar, we mean that ocean where we are part and parcel of the ocean. Quran is not only for the Muslims, nor Gita is only for Hindus. They say the same thing; they say the same thing that you have to be one with the Divine. Only problem is that, it all written in poetic language. And people can change, can make them little intrigate and ambiguous. But once you have your miraj and once you become the spirit, you see the oneness in between the lines. All our false ideas drop and we understand that, we have been fighting for nothing at all. Not only this, but look at your peace within yourselves. We live as I said in the past, in the future and the thoughts come up like a wave, like that and again disappear. In the centre there is a little gap, that is the present. We are all the time bombarding by thoughts, either from the future or from the past. But this happening, the kundalini separates and makes the thoughts belong it. And you become again I’m saying, again I’m saying, you become thoughtlessly aware. That’s how we achieve our peace within. And then whatever you think is coming from the Divine source. With this Divine source, you see the truth. And the truth you see, that this all-pervading power is the power of Divine love. As we say it is rahmet (God's mercy), rahmet. All right, this rahmet is coming from the Divine and makes us full of love and joy and affection. We feel the whole world is full of happiness and of this love. All these enemies of hatred, of jealousies and all these our enemies just drop out because the spirit is pure and it has no such manifestations. And in the light of the spirit, we see clearly, what is right and what is wrong. Supposing now before you, there is a man standing who is a cheat, immediately you can feel it on your fingertips, what sort of man he is. And if a saint is before you, you can feel tremendous vibrations. For example, to know about Mohammed Sahab thoroughly, you have to see his vibration, about Christ also. You can find out about all of them, very clearly. The life becomes very peaceful, joy giving. And the countries will change when this transformation take place. I will request you to read a book which a French lady has written about Sahaja Yoga and Quran. I read Quran with my father, He translate it into Hindu. It is amazing how it talks of reality. Then came Guru Nanaka, he talks the same. But they just read the book, night after night. They are so blind, they cannot see the truth. I think people in Turkey are maybe wise and get the truth. I am sure they can pave the way for all the Islamic countries who are suffering for nothing. Say, tomorrow rest of life, it is all dark, then what will happen, so many people will be killed. Only in the light of spirit, you can see what is reality. All this great people came on this earth, to tell us this. When it happens you form a beautiful group, collective being, we can call it collectively of people of all the nation. Already, Sahaja Yoga is working in 70 countries. Most surprising was Russia. I never expected that Sahaja Yoga will be taken and go so deeply in Russia. But because, maybe of the suppression with the communism, communist or maybe that they were told not to read any books or anything about the God. They are so clean, such a clean state. There was no conditioning and they were absolutely sensitive about it. In that country, they have not excepted anyone but for Islam and Orthodox Christianity and Sahaja Yoga. It is very surprising, how they see truth, the reality, the honesty of Sahaja Yoga. As I said, I have very great hopes for Turkish people. That they can come to Sahaja Yoga and see for themselves, what is the reality and get all Muslim worlds into it. That you don’t have to tell them, don’t do that, don’t do this, they don’t just do it. They become so powerful within. And so many miracles take place in their lives. That is what is going to happen to you all. Only thing you have to have pure desire. It will hardly take about 10 minutes to have it. But just you have to sit quietly and allow to have this. Of course it is entirely depend on you, whether you want to have your miraj or not. As it is I have told, you can’t pay for it. You can’t demand it. It works with people who want it from their heart. So, those who do not want, I cannot force as I said, you have to leave the hall. It will be very kind of you. All right, one thing I have to request, I hope you don’t mind, you have to take out your shoes. Because mother earth helps us a lot. All right, please open your hands like this as you do for namaz (muslim pray). One thing, you have to do is to forgive everyone. Many say, it is difficult to do it. But actually, logically if you see whether you forgive or don’t forgive you don’t do anything. But if you don’t forgive then you play in the wrong hands and torture yourselves for nothing. So please just say in your heart that I forgive everyone. You may call me Mother or Shri Mataji, you can say, Mother I forgive everyone. Now you see, just keep your hands in a very relax manner. You can close your eyes. Now, raise your left hand, on top of your fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Now, see for yourselves, is it a cool or hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area. You can move the hand little bit and bend your head. Now put your left hand towards me and right hand on top of your head again. When we bend head on the fontanel bone area. You can move your hand up and down, also sideways. Now put both your hands towards me again and you can open your eyes. Now see for yourselves if you are feeling any cool breeze like on your fingertips or maybe hot. Now watch me without thinking. You can do it. All those who have felt cool or hot breeze on their fingertips or on their palm or out of their fontanel bone area, please raise both your hands, both your hands. All of you.

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Evening Program, Eve Of Sahasrara Puja, Bhajan Sopori

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Sahasrara Puja: Blessing of Divine Pours Only If Sahasrara is Completely Open

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Sahasrara Puja. Cabella Ligure (Italy), 10 May 1998. Today, it’s a great day because Sahasrara day and Mother’s day have come together. It’s a very Sahaj happening, I think, and that is what we have to understand, how Sahasrara and the motherhood go together. Sahasrara was definitely opened and Mother had to do it, because formerly those people who came on this earth tried to teach people about dharma, to bring them to the central path, to the straightforward path of ascent. They tried everything, whatever way They thought was good for a particular community, particular area, particular country. They talked about it and lots of books came out of it, but instead of all these books creating people of religious, spiritual and a united nature, created people who were all against each other. Absurd, it’s an absurd thing, but it happened. So all these books that were written, all this knowledge that was given, was all misused by human beings, just to get their own power, I should say. So, it was all a power-oriented, also money-oriented game going on. When we see the outcome of all these religions, we feel it’s all empty. They talk of love, they talk of compassion, but it all is for a purpose. It is all a political game sometimes, because they still feel that they should have power, not the spiritual power, but the worldly power, so that they can dominate the whole world. So, this domination started working so much in the human mind that we had lots of wars, killings, all kinds of things. And when it subsided, I felt that now, maybe, opening Sahasrara might help people to see the Truth. At the level of Sahasrara, you know the Truth. So all kinds of illusions, all kinds of misunderstandings, all kinds of self-imposed ignorance, they all have to disappear, because what you know is the Truth. The Truth is not sharp, it’s not harsh, it is not something which is difficult to assimilate. People thought Truth must be something that would be just very damaging or could be very harsh, could create problems between human beings. It should not have, it should not have, it was not meant to be, but whenever They talked of Truth, the people used it for a wrong purpose. It’s something special about human beings that they start using things for a wrong attitude, for a wrong message and try to use it for their own purpose. It’s such a common thing with human beings that they want to have power over other men. I have seen in My own country when people wanted to have separate nations. Those people who wanted to have separate nations actually did it not to achieve anything great, but just because they can become those people who wanted, few of them, they’ll become something great in their own country. So they never wanted to be in a country where they may not rise to that height. So then they separated those countries and by separating, I have seen, all these countries are suffering, suffering very much; there is no growth, they have financial problems all kinds of problems are there and also the main country is suffering because they have now developed enmity and all this is working out against the main country. So, to have a separatist idea itself is against Sahaj. Say for example a flower growing on the tree looks very nice; it develops there, matures there and it produces seeds also. But supposing you cut the flower and take it away, then what happens? The tree loses the flower, no doubt, but mostly it is the loss of the flower. Now, this they did it all of them and when they did it, you see, what’s the result? People who tried to have their own country, their own domain, they were killed, murdered, abused and some of them are in jail. So the attitude even outside Sahaja Yoga has shown that it doesn’t help. So we must learn to be one. If after Sahaja Yoga, after your realisation, if you do not understand this message that we all have to be one, one single unit, one single body, if we cannot be, if you are identified with other things, then it’s no way you have grown, you have not matured. Very important point on Sahasrara day one has to understand that all the seven chakras have their peethas in the Sahasrara; all the seven chakras. They are nicely settled down in the midriff of your brain and they act, through that area wherever they are, on the chakras and work it out. Now, all these seven chakras become one, I should say, or go into unison, complete integration takes place in these centres, because these are governed by these seven main chakras, we can call them - we can call them by any name - and they govern all the others chakras. And because they are in unison, completely integrated, that’s why all your chakras are integrated. It’s the peethas which are enlightened, I should say, by Kundalini, also blessed by the Divine Power, immediately become integrated, they say that, like pearls in one string. it's even more than that, it's more than that. All these peethas within you get integrated in such a manner as if there is no difference in their manifestation. Supposing you have a chakra which is not alright, something wrong, physically, mentally, emotionally, whatever it is: the others chakras try to help this sick chakra and try to evolve a personality of a Sahaja Yogi in a way that he is integrated. Now, integration within yourself is very important. Unless and until you are integrated within yourself, you cannot be integrated outside and she within yourself integration is such a blessing of Sahaja Yoga that a person who gets this realisation becomes a personality which is above the normal personality. It is not attached to all the negative forces, the destructive forces; it just gives up so many things which normally [are] very difficult to give up. All these seven chakras that we have within ourselves are then guided by these peethas in a unison; just the help that comes from this unison helps all the chakras to get completely integrated. As it is, we are not integrated because our mind goes on one side, our body goes on an other side, our heart goes on another side, our emotions are different. We do not know which is the right thing to do, what is the best thing to do, but after realisation, in the light of the Spirit, you get the Truth and you know what is to be done. For example, after Self-realisation, you can judge people on their vibrations, you don’t have to use your brains for that, just on your vibrations, immediately you know what’s wrong with yourself and with others. So, here it is a double correction. One is you see your own being, your own Self, your self-knowledge comes to you. And secondly you can also make out another person, what sort of a thing he is doing. If somebody is not Sahaj and claims to be Sahaj, you can easily find out that he is not Sahaj, his behaviour is not Sahaj. So, best thing is, for all of us, is to get this integration absolutely working out within ourselves. We should not shun it, but we should accept that whatever defects we had, whatever wrong we have been doing, what wrong thinking we had, whatever destructive we had taken to - all this has to disappear because you are Sahaja Yogis. Sahaja Yogis have a special job to be done; they are not like other people who are just working for money, working for power, working for domination, you are not. You are working in Sahaja Yoga for the emancipation of humanity. So, whole thing is that, this Sahasrara is a global field where we enter in. We enter into a global field and when we are there, we just become ourselves a global personality. So all these minor things like your race, your country, your religion and all these which are artificial barriers between human beings just drops out and you become a realised soul and you know what is humanity, you understand the humanity. This has to happen in all the Sahaja Yogis when they are together, they should understand that we are not, no more, ordinary human beings. We are special people, chosen for a very special work which is the most important thing to be. Now, as you know what is going on, in Kali Yuga, I need not describe all that to you. But what is the light of the Spirit, which is going to show you what you can do to remove the ills of Kali Yuga...Starting right from yourself, you just see for yourself with great amusement: what you have been doing was all stupid. You should not have done that but you have been doing, so it's alright, you can forgive others who are doing it. And you'll understand that those who have been doing it have been doing all this out of ignorance. But now you have your Sahasrara open. In the open Sahasrara, you are getting, or, Divine is pouring Its grace all the time. With that reception, with that, we should say, the nourishing of your Sahasrara, what happens is something really great, one thing happens is that you get detached from yourself, you can see yourself, you can see your past, you can understand yourself, that you have been doing so many wrong things and misunderstanding people. This sometimes takes you too far away from yourself, but once this light comes and the Sahasrara is nourished, in that light you see, clearly, what wrong you have been doing to yourself. Then, as a person, you can see your faults, but also you see the faults of your society where you live. I have seen immediately, after people they get their realisation, they start telling Me, “Mother, I was a Christian, but, see, this is Christianity.” Somebody will say, “Mother, I was very patriotic, but I see now what patriotism is.” Like, everybody starts seeing its own background, its own styles, in which he has lived, and just gets out of it. And once you are out of it, it’s no more identified with you. And it’s such a spontaneous happening. Only thing you have to learn to be spontaneous. And that’s what I find that, in Sahaj, people still, though they are out of this illusion, this ocean of illusion, still, sometimes their one leg is still there in the ocean, still they are pulling it out and pushing it back. That should not be. That is only because people don’t meditate. Now to say, “You must meditate”, people think it is a kind of a ritual or maybe a kind of a style of Sahaja Yoga. No! Meditation is for you to go deep down into yourself, to achieve all that your Sahasrara wants to give you, to achieve that height of detachment, of understanding. It’s only through meditation. So, what happens in meditation is that your awareness crosses over Agnya, goes above and it's now stationed in the Sahasrara, in thoughtless awareness. Then the reality of Sahasrara, the beauty of Sahasrara starts pouring in your own character, in your own temperament. Unless and until you meditate - not meditate just to get well or just to feel that, "I must meditate" - but meditation is very important for all of you, that you develop your Sahasrara in such a manner that you imbibe the beauty of your Sahasrara. If you don’t use your Sahasrara in this way, after some time you’ll find that Sahasrara will close down, you’ll have no vibrations and you’ll have no understanding of yourself. So, very very important thing is to meditate. I can immediately make out a person who has been meditating and the one who has been not meditating; because a person who does not meditate is, still, thinks that, “Oh, it’s alright, I am doing this, I am doing that.” Meditation is the only way you can enrich yourself with the beauty of reality. There’s no other way, I cannot find any other way but meditation by which you rise into the realm of Divinity. For example I would say that Myself whatever I have done is this, that I have been able to find out a method how to give you Self-realisation to masses. But it doesn’t mean that if I give to masses, they are all Sahaja Yogis, no. You must have seen, whenever you have your programmes, people get realisation when I am there and they come to programmes for a while and then they drop out. The reason is - they have not meditated. If they had meditated, they would have known what is their quality, what are they. Without meditation you don’t understand what is best for you. So, today is a day when you have to promise Me that you’ll meditate every night, every evening, maybe in the morning also. Whenever it is possible, if you can go into meditative mood, you are in contact with this Divine Power. Then whatever is good for you, whatever good for your society, for your country, all is done by this Divine Power. You don’t have to overpower the Divine Power. You don’t have to order, you don’t have to ask; just if you meditate, you are one with this All-pervading Power which is another great blessings to us. Unless and until your Sahasrara is opened, all the blessings of the Divine Power cannot come to you, it cannot. Maybe you might get some money, you might get some jobs, you might get this and that, but your own development is only possible when you meditate and your Sahasrara is completely open and open to Truth. Now, the Truth is that this Divine Power is compassion, is love. This is the Truth. They say God is Love, God is Truth. So the equation has to be made that Truth is Love and Love is Truth. But it’s not a truth that as you have for your own children, you have for your family; attached. Attached love is not the Truth. If you are attached to somebody, then you never see the bad points of that person; if you are angry with somebody, then you can never see the good points of that person. But it’s a complete detached love. And that love is extremely powerful, because whenever you project that love to anyone, you’ll be surprised, the problems of that person will be solved, his personality will improve, everything will work out in a very big way and his life will be changed. But if you are attached to anything whatsoever, that attachment itself causes problems and doesn’t allow Sahaj to grow. This attachment could be any kind: for example, you can be attached to your country, attached to your society, attached to your family, it can be of any kind, but when Sahasrara is open, you learn one thing is detachment. It just happens that you get detached, though, I mean, you are not running away. As it is, in Sahaja Yoga, we don’t believe in people who run away from society and go to Himalayas, all that I call them as 'escapicism'. That is not the point. What happens is that you are there, you see everyone, you watch everyone, you know everyone, you are close to everyone, but you are a detached person. It’s a state of mind that you achieve when Sahasrara is open. In that state, you are dealing with people, you are dealing with problems, you are dealing with situations, but you are not involved in it, there is no involvement. And that involvement which you had before can never give you complete insight what is happening, what is the Truth is; about any situation.So, this detachment helps you. The greatest thing of the detachment is that you are not affected. No use saying that, “Oh, You are not affected, Mother, so how can You feel for another person? How can You have compassion for another person?” Because if you feel for another person, then only you can solve the problem. But this feeling that you have is again a kind of an attachment. It is not a real feeling, because it doesn’t help. The person is crying, you are also crying, the person is troubled, you are also in trouble and this does not help that person, nor will it help you. So to have detached, in no way means you do not feel the another person - you do feel. You feel the agony of that person, the trouble of that person, of the whole society sometimes, and of the whole country. But that your feeling is so detached that the All-Pervading Power takes over. First we must have full faith in the capability of this All-Pervading Power. As soon as you are detached, you say, “You do it." Finished! Once you say that, “You are going to do it, it’s You who is going to do it!”, whole thing changes completely, because you transfer all your responsibilities, all your problems to this Divine Power, which is so powerful, which is so capable, which can work out anything. So, whenever you think that this problem, you are going to solve, you are the one who is going to do it, then alright, the Divine Power says, “Alright, try your luck!” But if you can really put this problem to the Divine Power, it will work out. We have all kinds of problems in Sahaja Yoga, specially when we find that people are not so much attracted to Sahaja Yoga, they are few in number, then you feel very bad about it. But have you tried to meditate on this point? And have you tried to put this problem to the Divine Power? Why should we worry when we have Divine Power available through our Sahasrara? Why should we worry, why should we think about it? Just leave it to the Divine Power. If that is possible, if that you can achieve, you see, which is very difficult for human beings because they live with their ego, they live with their conditionings. But if that attachment to all these things goes away, then what you do is just leave things to this Power. Krishna has said in His Gîta ki, “Sarva dharmanam parityaja, mamekam sharanam vraja" - "Forget about all your dharmas.” dharma means in His meaning that we have a dharma of a wife, of a husband, of a member of the society, all of them have their dharma, but He says, “Leave them and leave them to Me and I’ll manage.” This is it, we have to learn, is to say that, "It’s this Divine Power which will solve our problems." As human beings, it is a very difficult state and this state only can be achieved through meditation. But I am not saying that you go on meditating for hours altogether, not necessary. But with full faith in yourself and in the Divine Power, if you work it out, I am sure, it’s not difficult to rise to that state of consciousness. That is what we have to achieve. It’s possible for men as well as for women. They don’t have to think, “How can we, Mother, do it after all?” You see, all such people are not good for Sahaja Yoga. Those who have diffidence about themselves cannot do anything, but those who are surrendered, and those who think they can do it, can manage all this transfer of their power to the Divine Power. Just put it on the Divine Power. Now, supposing I have a car which can drive Me down. So, if I have a car, then I don’t put bullocks on it, I don’t push My car, I just sit inside and use it. In the same way, if you have this great power around you, if your Sahasrara is absolutely, completely submerged in it, then you’ll be amazed how things work out for yourself. I will give you an example of a Sahaja Yogi, he’s no more now. He was a fisherman, ordinary fisherman, but also he was educated, so he was working in a bank. This one was going one day to do some Sahaja Yoga work and he had to go by boat. So, when he came out, he saw the whole place was clouded and it was about to burst out into a big havoc. So, he got very much perturbed about it that, “What is this?” Immediately- his Sahasrara was so open and good - immediately he said, “Now, I leave it to this Divine Power to stop all these things happening. I don’t want it to rain and to have any problem till I come back home and go off to sleep.” “And it was surprising,” people told Me that, "Mother, the clouds and everything were there all throughout, but it did not rain, it did not do anything and there was no chaos of any kind.” He went to another island where he had to go, he did Sahaja Yoga and came back. And then when he went to sleep, then only, everything started pouring down. So, nature, everything, every leaf, every flower, everything is worked out through the Divine Power. So, we should not have our ego that we can do something ourselves, we can manage ourselves. Once you have that kind of a thing, you are not yet that much developed, you are not that much grown up in Sahaja Yoga. But to grow in Sahaja Yoga should not be difficult for you, because you have guidelines. Those people who got their realisation, very few of them like Sufis and we had some saints in India, all of them, how much they must have struggled! Nobody to guide them, nobody to help them, nobody to tell them about what they can achieve and despite that, they were very satisfied people, very happy people and they worked it out so well. They saw the whole world with another angle as you can also see. But they were not upset and they had such self-confidence, they had such knowledge of their own that they achieved through their meditative process and the way they have written books, some of them are so great. It’s very surprisingly how they have achieved these great verses, such full of knowledge. One cannot understand that they had no guidance, nobody was to tell them. But one thing with them was that they always tried to look after their Sahasrara. Now one thing is there, obstructing Sahasrara is the movement of your Agnya into thoughts. That’s the only thing, that’s the only thing that stops your entry into Sahaja Yoga. Thoughts are coming all the time, because a human being is born who reacts to everything, react to this and react to that. Then the thoughts come in and thoughts go. There’s a big crowd of thoughts. Because of that, your attention cannot cross over Agnya and can’t reside in the Sahasrara. So first of all one should see, ki (that) what sort of thoughts are coming. You have to condemn yourself sometimes. You have to say, ”What nonsense! What have I been doing? What’s the matter with me? How could I do all that?” Once you start doing that, these thoughts will start disappearing. These thoughts are coming from two angles, one from the ego and another from your conditionings and these are so much built up within you that they don’t allow your Agnya to be crossed. That’s why we have two bija mantras of “hum’, ‘kshum.” First one is, when it is conditioning, you are endowed with this kind of a fear: “I shouldn’t do like this, I shouldn’t do like that, it’s not allowed, that is not allowed.” That’s the conditioning part of it. Conditioning can be of many types, but the ego part of is that,“I must overpower everybody, I must get this, I must be able to rule everyone.” These two things are there in the mind which are all the time crossing over. So, it is important that we should go into thoughtless awareness and that thoughtless awareness is the real way that your Sahasrara can be nourished by the Kundalini. Because Kundalini cannot go through, cannot pass through. And for that, as I said, there are two bija mantras, is, one is 'Hum' another 'Kshum'. So, if you are conditioned, you are frightened, you are afraid and you had ideas about yourself... These days the way the people are describing, they’ll say, “ I am an extrovert!” , somebody will say, “I am an introvert”, somebody will say, “I am a hippy, I am that, I am that.” All kinds of things they can have attributed to themselves. But these ideas are all coming from outside, they are not from inside. To get to the inner side of yourself, the subtler side of your being, you must allow the Kundalini to go through the Agnya and to cross the Agnya is a very important thing in modern times and for that you have to meditate. If you can meditate with complete faith in yourself, this Agnya can be opened out - with surrendering to the Divine. You have to surrender yourself to the Divine and when this Agnya opens, you’ll be amazed, your Sahasrara is just waiting to transfer, to give you all the help that you need through the All-Pervading Power. Your connection of Sahasrara with the All-Pervading Power is established and by that you’ll be amazed how all these seven chakras work for you, how they help you, how they try to give you whatever is the real knowledge about everything! This real knowledge that you get is very joy giving. You can see this real knowledge in everything. You don’t have to start reading any book about it. In every situation and in every person, in every flower, in every natural happening, you see clearly the hand of the Divine. Once you see the hand of the Divine, your ego starts disappearing. Once you say that: “It’s You, You do everything.” Kabira has said something great about this, He said that: When the goat is alive, it goes on saying: “I, mai, mai, I am, I am.” But when it is slaughtered and its intestines are made into strings, which are used for cleaning the cotton, then it says: “Tu hi, tu hi," "You are, You are, You are.” You see, in this symbolic way, they have suggested that you have to become dissolved into this Divine Power. It’s the Divine Power that does everything,“What am I? I was just a drop and I fell into this Ocean of Awareness, of the Divine Power and that is taking over and working it out.” That will help you a lot to be a great Sahaja Yogi. You develop curing powers, but still you are not proud of it. You develop of course awakening powers, you are not proud of it; you develop so many creative powers and you are not proud of it. You become really very, very creative, extremely creative. But the greatest thing happens to you [is] that you become a global personality. So you start seeing the problem of every country, of every other nation, where they have problems. But these problems when you see, you don’t see like other people, because others may like to use it for their own purpose, maybe for media, maybe for something. What you want to see is that these problems are solved. You see, your powers are so great with this kind of a mind, I would say, which is dominated completely by the Divine Power that, whatever disturbs you, immediately is taken over and It starts working out. Many, many problems have been solved by Sahaja Yoga, and also they can be solved on a very universal level, if you are a global person. If you are a global person, then what happens is that you become a, sort of a, vehicle or you can become like a channel for this Divine Power to act, because you are purely a global personality; not attached to this, attached to that, but a pure Sahaj personality, which can be used by this Divine Power very easily. For that, as I told in the afternoon also, that we have to be careful about few things that we have. Firstly anger. Anger is the worst thing that we have. Angry for what? There is people who talk like that: “I was very angry.” They are proud of their anger. Anger is the sign of complete stupidity, absolute stupidity. There’s no need to get angry with anyone because by anger you don’t solve the problem. With anger you spoil yourself. With anger you do in your own nature. With anger you really spoil the situation. So no use having any anger about anything. But if anything happens that angers you, you should settle down and see for yourself why is it wrong, why is it disturbing you. Your seeing itself will help this problem to be solved. You must, first of all, realise that you are a special personality, that your Sahasrara has been opened out to this all Divine Power, as if you have entered into the realm of Divinity. You are a great guest in that Great Court of Divine domain. You are not an ordinary person. And so, once you understand why you have Sahaja Yoga and why you have got realisation, is that there’s something special. But that should not give you any ego. It’s not for ego that you have to have this. But it’s for understanding that you have to play into the hands of the Divine. It is, this play is something I could explain like this, that, if you are, supposing, an artist, then in the hand of an artist is the brush and the brush never thinks that it is doing anything. It is the artist who is doing everything. In the same way, when you are one with the Divine Power, you just feel, “I’m not doing anything. It’s the artist who is doing. It’s the artist who is managing,” And who is the artist? Is this Divine Power which loves you, which cares for you, which looks after you, which absolutely is identified with you. You’ll be surprised, I have got so many letters from people - how Sahaja has helped them, how at the right moment they got the help, at the point of complete destruction, how they were saved. So many people have written to Me. But I’m not surprised, because if you are one with the Divine, It looks after you. It has all the powers, all the powers. Only one power it doesn’t have to control you. If you want to ruin yourself, It gives you freedom, complete freedom, if you want to ruin yourself, “Ruin!”. If you don’t want to accept Divine Power, “Alright, don’t accept!” It’s a complete freedom to do what you like with yourself. That is one thing It has given and that’s why you must curb down that freedom and respect the Divine Power. Today is…I like the day when it is the Mother’s, I should say, Mother’s Day also. Because I think only a Mother can work it out that way. One has to have a lot of patience with people. What I have seen with all these great incarnations who came, They just disappeared, in a very short time They lived, very short time. Somebody was crucified about 33 years of age, somebody took a samadhi at 23 years of age, because I think They couldn’t bear the way people were stupid. They couldn’t see the point that they could do something for human beings. They lost their confidence, I think, or maybe that They thought, “It’s useless to work for these people.” Like that, They took a position that- is better to disappear. But Mother’s position is different. She’ll go on struggling and fighting for Her child. She’ll fight it out to the last to see that the child gets all the benefits and this patience and this love and this forgiveness is innately built-in in a mother, because Her attitude is very different. Not any achievement, not any big name or what you call a sort of an award or anything. It is just She does it because She is a Mother. And that is what is the sign of any mother, if she is a real mother, at least for her own children, she will go all out, she will work out everything for day in day out and to save the child from disaster. But Sahaja Yoga is a much bigger family and for that you really had to be worked out through the Mother’s principle. You cannot take any other principle. Like there were very great warriors we had and they have done a great job also and they have worked out as warriors. Then we had some who were very sacrificing. All kinds of people they were. They worked very hard to establish dharma in people, but they could not. I thought of one thing, that - no use establishing dharma. First of all give them realisation, when in the light of the Spirit they see what’s wrong, they become dharmic automatically, so best way is to do that. Not to force dharma on them. Because [if] you put dharma on them, they don’t know how to bear it, they can’t digest. So this will be the best way is to just make them aware of their Spirit. Once the light of the Spirit comes, in the light they see everything clearly, then no problem is there. And that’s why this Mother’s quality is very helpful. I mean in every country there has been a manifestation of the Mother Principle, in every country and it has been depicted and said, but later on, it was taken over by people who didn’t want to talk about Mother because they couldn’t justify themselves the way they were behaving. So they said best is not to talk of the Mother. Also those who were very much advanced people, very matured, who were really incarnations, did talk about the Mother all the time, but still talk was talk. Now, this has to [be] worked out as a Mother has to work. So, in your own way, when you are doing Sahaja Yoga, there also you have to be a mother. More mother’s quality than the father’s quality, that there’s no ambition, there’s no competition, there’s no jealousies, nothing. Just you want your children to come up and to grow into their spirituality. If that is the only attitude we have then you’ll be amazed how satisfied you’ll feel, because this is a very, very joy-giving thing, to see people growing in spirituality. Not only talking about it, not only reading about it, but actually happening, actualising within yourself. So this quality is very helpful and that really helps every Sahaja Yogi to be patient, to be kind, to be humble. But you have to correct also. But there’s a way of correction of another person, of people who are coming not from the divine world but from the normal world, so it’s a difficult task to correct them. Some people are so hot-tempered they can’t bear it - doesn’t matter, you have to forgive them. But, best is to concentrate on people who are simple, who are loving, who are affectionate and then gradually all these complicated people, also, will join. Your way of dealing with others has to be motherly. The motherly relationship has to be there. I was surprised that in the Western literature I don’t find any description of a child and a mother’s relationship. It’s very surprising. There’s no, no description at all, how the mother sees the child, how he walks, how he falls down, then how he gets up and how he talks. All kinds of beautiful things are described, but not in the Western countries. I don’t know, they never saw this point I think, that is very important that to describe the attention of the mother: how she is loving, how she is kind, how she tolerates so much nonsense and how she keeps it in, as a, sort of a, forgiving thing. Not just to use it against the child or to trouble. Sometimes you have to correct, you have to tell, but at the right time, at the right place if they are told, the child also sees the point whatever is there. The first most convincing thing is the affection and the love of the mother. She goes on forgiving and giving that assurance that, “I have a mother, nothing can happen to me,” and this assurance works very well. But the same assurance you have to give to other Sahaja Yogis who are getting realisation from you. Let them feel that you are not angry with them. They are stupid, I know, they are sometimes violent. I’ve gone through all kinds of people, but only thing that has worked is pure love. Pure love has no attributes of expecting something. You just give love and try to improve that person with full attention. But in divine work, you don’t have to get attached to that person. Supposing there’s somebody who is not up to the point, is also troublesome, gets angry with you, annoyed, insults you and everything: so, forget it, they are many others. There’s no need to run after one person, to get attached to that person or to make them fame. Now, main thing is that I feel always the Sahaja Yogis always feel that I am their own, which is a fact. Whether I talk to you, whether I meet you or whatever it is, you have to know that I’m your Mother and any problem you have, you can always tell Me. But sometimes the way people tell Me problems also, I feel how low they are. Their mentality is so low. What are they asking Me? Supposing you go to some king and ask him for, say, half a dollar, then what will the king say? “What is the matter with this person? He doesn’t know what he should ask for!” In the same way, one feels that way that when you are asking anything to your Mother, it should be of some value, some great value. It should have the value of complete satisfaction. When you ask for something, it should give you complete satisfaction. But I have seen people asking for this thing, for that thing. I mean it’s to such an extent that I sometimes feel, “Oh God, how am I getting all these people around Me who are desiring something very low, very mean, insipid!” But if you are one with the Sahasrara, then Sahasrara itself works; It will bring you contact with people, in contact with such people that you are amazed how It works. I went to Turkey and My experience of Turkey has proved that beyond doubt. I never expected, but the Turkish people of all the people of the world have taken to Sahaja Yoga just like a windfall! I can’t understand how they have accepted Me. And there were at least 2000 people in the follow-up and people were finding it impossible to get them round and tell them and when they had very close meetings also they had so many people and they continued to be there. Now, maybe that is a very disturbed country, with fundamentalism very much working out, but everywhere, every country has problems and, has we should say, a kind of a very destructive image. Every country has. But in some countries, I don’t know how it sparks and once they become Sahaja Yogis, no problem. It’s no problem about anything if they are Sahaja Yogis, you see, you don’t have to tell them, they themselves work it out, they understand it, what is it. Like we have every country which has problems, which has people who are not of a very great level, who are not great seekers. Maybe in some countries, I feel those who were great seekers are lost; like England, I feel that all the seekers are lost by drugs, hippyism, all nonsense. America is the worst of all, which is so much lost into wrong seeking. And it’s difficult to find people there who have right seeking. Gradually it is working out, but still, I must say we should not think of any one particular country where Sahaja Yoga is not working out so much or in some place is not working out so much. It is what we have to think globally that Sahaja Yoga is growing and you are part and parcel of that society which is Sahaja Yoga. It’s a very rare society which they never had. There are one or two Sufis here and there, one or two realised souls here and there who only suffered. All their lives they were tortured, nobody looked at them. I had great hopes about Maharashtra, but I’m so disappointed, because they tortured all these great saints all throughout, you know, so badly, in such a mean manner that I think they are still paying for it, and despite the fact I would have done so much work there, what I feel is that their karmas are not good, because they still, I would say, it’s a rotten country, it’s becomes so rotten. You can see that, the way people are behaving and whole thing is so bad, though Sahaja Yoga is there, no doubt, but I wouldn’t say it is of that level as it is in the North, North of India, very surprising, North Indians never knew anything about Sahaja Yoga. They were not such religious people like that, but how the North people have taken to Sahaja Yoga is very surprising. So, you can’t say where the light will show, just can’t say. And wherever it shows we should accept, wherever it doesn’t show we should not feel bad about it. What can you do? You cannot sort of break their heads for Sahasrara, (laughing) their Sahasrara has to be opened out and with your motherly love, with your motherly understanding, I am sure you can do it. May not be to the same extent in every country, but I’m sure as I feel that, maybe, the punyas of these great saints will work and maybe wherever I felt little bit disappointed, I feel that all these places will work out and Sahaja Yoga will grow. But first and foremost is your Sahasrara. Only your Sahasrara can reflect the light of the Divine. So, your Sahasrara is extremely important. You must meditate to enrich your Sahasrara, to cure it, to make it completely nourished by the Kundalini. There’s no need to do many rituals, but meditation and also little bit of taking bandhan, even now, today, is necessarily, I think, when you go out, because still Kali Yuga is working its own pangs and Satya Yuga is trying to come out. We are the ones who are going to support, look after the Satya Yuga and that’s why the Sahasrara opening is very, very important. It’s very important and those who want to grow should meditate every day, whatever time you may come home, maybe in the morning, maybe in the evening, any time. But you will know that you are meditating when you can get into thoughtless awareness, then you will know. Your reaction will be zero. Look at something, you will just look at it. You won’t react, because you are thoughtless. You won’t react. When that reaction is not there, then everything, you will be surprised, is Divine, because reaction is your Agnya’s problem. Once you are absolutely thoughtlessly aware, you are one with the Divine. So much so that Divine takes over every activity, every moment of your life and looks after you and you feel completely secured, one with the Divine and enjoy the blessings of the Divine. May God bless you!

Sahasrara Puja. Cabella Ligure (Italy), 10 May 1998. Today, it’s a great day because Sahasrara day and Mother’s day have come together. It’s a very Sahaj happening, I think, and that is what we have to understand, how Sahasrara and the motherhood go together. Sahasrara was definitely opened and Mother had to do it, because formerly those people who came on this earth tried to teach people about dharma, to bring them to the central path, to the straightforward path of ascent. They tried everything, whatever way They thought was good for a particular community, particular area, particular country. They talked about it and lots of books came out of it, but instead of all these books creating people of religious, spiritual and a united nature, created people who were all against each other. Absurd, it’s an absurd thing, but it happened. So all these books that were written, all this knowledge that was given, was all misused by human beings, just to get their own power, I should say. So, it was all a power-oriented, also money-oriented game going on. When we see the outcome of all these religions, we feel it’s all empty. They talk of love, they talk of compassion, but it all is for a purpose. It is all a political game sometimes, because they still feel that they should have power, not the spiritual power, but the worldly power, so that they can dominate the whole world. So, this domination started working so much in the human mind that we had lots of wars, killings, all kinds of things. And when it subsided, I felt that now, maybe, opening Sahasrara might help people to see the Truth. At the level of Sahasrara, you know the Truth. So all kinds of illusions, all kinds of misunderstandings, all kinds of self-imposed ignorance, they all have to disappear, because what you know is the Truth. The Truth is not sharp, it’s not harsh, it is not something which is difficult to assimilate. People thought Truth must be something that would be just very damaging or could be very harsh, could create problems between human beings. It should not have, it should not have, it was not meant to be, but whenever They talked of Truth, the people used it for a wrong purpose. It’s something special about human beings that they start using things for a wrong attitude, for a wrong message and try to use it for their own purpose. It’s such a common thing with human beings that they want to have power over other men. I have seen in My own country when people wanted to have separate nations. Those people who wanted to have separate nations actually did it not to achieve anything great, but just because they can become those people who wanted, few of them, they’ll become something great in their own country. So they never wanted to be in a country where they may not rise to that height. So then they separated those countries and by separating, I have seen, all these countries are suffering, suffering very much; there is no growth, they have financial problems all kinds of problems are there and also the main country is suffering because they have now developed enmity and all this is working out against the main country. So, to have a separatist idea itself is against Sahaj. Say for example a flower growing on the tree looks very nice; it develops there, matures there and it produces seeds also. But supposing you cut the flower and take it away, then what happens? The tree loses the flower, no doubt, but mostly it is the loss of the flower. Now, this they did it all of them and when they did it, you see, what’s the result? People who tried to have their own country, their own domain, they were killed, murdered, abused and some of them are in jail. So the attitude even outside Sahaja Yoga has shown that it doesn’t help. So we must learn to be one. If after Sahaja Yoga, after your realisation, if you do not understand this message that we all have to be one, one single unit, one single body, if we cannot be, if you are identified with other things, then it’s no way you have grown, you have not matured. Very important point on Sahasrara day one has to understand that all the seven chakras have their peethas in the Sahasrara; all the seven chakras. They are nicely settled down in the midriff of your brain and they act, through that area wherever they are, on the chakras and work it out. Now, all these seven chakras become one, I should say, or go into unison, complete integration takes place in these centres, because these are governed by these seven main chakras, we can call them - we can call them by any name - and they govern all the others chakras. And because they are in unison, completely integrated, that’s why all your chakras are integrated. It’s the peethas which are enlightened, I should say, by Kundalini, also blessed by the Divine Power, immediately become integrated, they say that, like pearls in one string. it's even more than that, it's more than that. All these peethas within you get integrated in such a manner as if there is no difference in their manifestation. Supposing you have a chakra which is not alright, something wrong, physically, mentally, emotionally, whatever it is: the others chakras try to help this sick chakra and try to evolve a personality of a Sahaja Yogi in a way that he is integrated. Now, integration within yourself is very important. Unless and until you are integrated within yourself, you cannot be integrated outside and she within yourself integration is such a blessing of Sahaja Yoga that a person who gets this realisation becomes a personality which is above the normal personality. It is not attached to all the negative forces, the destructive forces; it just gives up so many things which normally [are] very difficult to give up. All these seven chakras that we have within ourselves are then guided by these peethas in a unison; just the help that comes from this unison helps all the chakras to get completely integrated. As it is, we are not integrated because our mind goes on one side, our body goes on an other side, our heart goes on another side, our emotions are different. We do not know which is the right thing to do, what is the best thing to do, but after realisation, in the light of the Spirit, you get the Truth and you know what is to be done. For example, after Self-realisation, you can judge people on their vibrations, you don’t have to use your brains for that, just on your vibrations, immediately you know what’s wrong with yourself and with others. So, here it is a double correction. One is you see your own being, your own Self, your self-knowledge comes to you. And secondly you can also make out another person, what sort of a thing he is doing. If somebody is not Sahaj and claims to be Sahaj, you can easily find out that he is not Sahaj, his behaviour is not Sahaj. So, best thing is, for all of us, is to get this integration absolutely working out within ourselves. We should not shun it, but we should accept that whatever defects we had, whatever wrong we have been doing, what wrong thinking we had, whatever destructive we had taken to - all this has to disappear because you are Sahaja Yogis. Sahaja Yogis have a special job to be done; they are not like other people who are just working for money, working for power, working for domination, you are not. You are working in Sahaja Yoga for the emancipation of humanity. So, whole thing is that, this Sahasrara is a global field where we enter in. We enter into a global field and when we are there, we just become ourselves a global personality. So all these minor things like your race, your country, your religion and all these which are artificial barriers between human beings just drops out and you become a realised soul and you know what is humanity, you understand the humanity. This has to happen in all the Sahaja Yogis when they are together, they should understand that we are not, no more, ordinary human beings. We are special people, chosen for a very special work which is the most important thing to be. Now, as you know what is going on, in Kali Yuga, I need not describe all that to you. But what is the light of the Spirit, which is going to show you what you can do to remove the ills of Kali Yuga...Starting right from yourself, you just see for yourself with great amusement: what you have been doing was all stupid. You should not have done that but you have been doing, so it's alright, you can forgive others who are doing it. And you'll understand that those who have been doing it have been doing all this out of ignorance. But now you have your Sahasrara open. In the open Sahasrara, you are getting, or, Divine is pouring Its grace all the time. With that reception, with that, we should say, the nourishing of your Sahasrara, what happens is something really great, one thing happens is that you get detached from yourself, you can see yourself, you can see your past, you can understand yourself, that you have been doing so many wrong things and misunderstanding people. This sometimes takes you too far away from yourself, but once this light comes and the Sahasrara is nourished, in that light you see, clearly, what wrong you have been doing to yourself. Then, as a person, you can see your faults, but also you see the faults of your society where you live. I have seen immediately, after people they get their realisation, they start telling Me, “Mother, I was a Christian, but, see, this is Christianity.” Somebody will say, “Mother, I was very patriotic, but I see now what patriotism is.” Like, everybody starts seeing its own background, its own styles, in which he has lived, and just gets out of it. And once you are out of it, it’s no more identified with you. And it’s such a spontaneous happening. Only thing you have to learn to be spontaneous. And that’s what I find that, in Sahaj, people still, though they are out of this illusion, this ocean of illusion, still, sometimes their one leg is still there in the ocean, still they are pulling it out and pushing it back. That should not be. That is only because people don’t meditate. Now to say, “You must meditate”, people think it is a kind of a ritual or maybe a kind of a style of Sahaja Yoga. No! Meditation is for you to go deep down into yourself, to achieve all that your Sahasrara wants to give you, to achieve that height of detachment, of understanding. It’s only through meditation. So, what happens in meditation is that your awareness crosses over Agnya, goes above and it's now stationed in the Sahasrara, in thoughtless awareness. Then the reality of Sahasrara, the beauty of Sahasrara starts pouring in your own character, in your own temperament. Unless and until you meditate - not meditate just to get well or just to feel that, "I must meditate" - but meditation is very important for all of you, that you develop your Sahasrara in such a manner that you imbibe the beauty of your Sahasrara. If you don’t use your Sahasrara in this way, after some time you’ll find that Sahasrara will close down, you’ll have no vibrations and you’ll have no understanding of yourself. So, very very important thing is to meditate. I can immediately make out a person who has been meditating and the one who has been not meditating; because a person who does not meditate is, still, thinks that, “Oh, it’s alright, I am doing this, I am doing that.” Meditation is the only way you can enrich yourself with the beauty of reality. There’s no other way, I cannot find any other way but meditation by which you rise into the realm of Divinity. For example I would say that Myself whatever I have done is this, that I have been able to find out a method how to give you Self-realisation to masses. But it doesn’t mean that if I give to masses, they are all Sahaja Yogis, no. You must have seen, whenever you have your programmes, people get realisation when I am there and they come to programmes for a while and then they drop out. The reason is - they have not meditated. If they had meditated, they would have known what is their quality, what are they. Without meditation you don’t understand what is best for you. So, today is a day when you have to promise Me that you’ll meditate every night, every evening, maybe in the morning also. Whenever it is possible, if you can go into meditative mood, you are in contact with this Divine Power. Then whatever is good for you, whatever good for your society, for your country, all is done by this Divine Power. You don’t have to overpower the Divine Power. You don’t have to order, you don’t have to ask; just if you meditate, you are one with this All-pervading Power which is another great blessings to us. Unless and until your Sahasrara is opened, all the blessings of the Divine Power cannot come to you, it cannot. Maybe you might get some money, you might get some jobs, you might get this and that, but your own development is only possible when you meditate and your Sahasrara is completely open and open to Truth. Now, the Truth is that this Divine Power is compassion, is love. This is the Truth. They say God is Love, God is Truth. So the equation has to be made that Truth is Love and Love is Truth. But it’s not a truth that as you have for your own children, you have for your family; attached. Attached love is not the Truth. If you are attached to somebody, then you never see the bad points of that person; if you are angry with somebody, then you can never see the good points of that person. But it’s a complete detached love. And that love is extremely powerful, because whenever you project that love to anyone, you’ll be surprised, the problems of that person will be solved, his personality will improve, everything will work out in a very big way and his life will be changed. But if you are attached to anything whatsoever, that attachment itself causes problems and doesn’t allow Sahaj to grow. This attachment could be any kind: for example, you can be attached to your country, attached to your society, attached to your family, it can be of any kind, but when Sahasrara is open, you learn one thing is detachment. It just happens that you get detached, though, I mean, you are not running away. As it is, in Sahaja Yoga, we don’t believe in people who run away from society and go to Himalayas, all that I call them as 'escapicism'. That is not the point. What happens is that you are there, you see everyone, you watch everyone, you know everyone, you are close to everyone, but you are a detached person. It’s a state of mind that you achieve when Sahasrara is open. In that state, you are dealing with people, you are dealing with problems, you are dealing with situations, but you are not involved in it, there is no involvement. And that involvement which you had before can never give you complete insight what is happening, what is the Truth is; about any situation.So, this detachment helps you. The greatest thing of the detachment is that you are not affected. No use saying that, “Oh, You are not affected, Mother, so how can You feel for another person? How can You have compassion for another person?” Because if you feel for another person, then only you can solve the problem. But this feeling that you have is again a kind of an attachment. It is not a real feeling, because it doesn’t help. The person is crying, you are also crying, the person is troubled, you are also in trouble and this does not help that person, nor will it help you. So to have detached, in no way means you do not feel the another person - you do feel. You feel the agony of that person, the trouble of that person, of the whole society sometimes, and of the whole country. But that your feeling is so detached that the All-Pervading Power takes over. First we must have full faith in the capability of this All-Pervading Power. As soon as you are detached, you say, “You do it." Finished! Once you say that, “You are going to do it, it’s You who is going to do it!”, whole thing changes completely, because you transfer all your responsibilities, all your problems to this Divine Power, which is so powerful, which is so capable, which can work out anything. So, whenever you think that this problem, you are going to solve, you are the one who is going to do it, then alright, the Divine Power says, “Alright, try your luck!” But if you can really put this problem to the Divine Power, it will work out. We have all kinds of problems in Sahaja Yoga, specially when we find that people are not so much attracted to Sahaja Yoga, they are few in number, then you feel very bad about it. But have you tried to meditate on this point? And have you tried to put this problem to the Divine Power? Why should we worry when we have Divine Power available through our Sahasrara? Why should we worry, why should we think about it? Just leave it to the Divine Power. If that is possible, if that you can achieve, you see, which is very difficult for human beings because they live with their ego, they live with their conditionings. But if that attachment to all these things goes away, then what you do is just leave things to this Power. Krishna has said in His Gîta ki, “Sarva dharmanam parityaja, mamekam sharanam vraja" - "Forget about all your dharmas.” dharma means in His meaning that we have a dharma of a wife, of a husband, of a member of the society, all of them have their dharma, but He says, “Leave them and leave them to Me and I’ll manage.” This is it, we have to learn, is to say that, "It’s this Divine Power which will solve our problems." As human beings, it is a very difficult state and this state only can be achieved through meditation. But I am not saying that you go on meditating for hours altogether, not necessary. But with full faith in yourself and in the Divine Power, if you work it out, I am sure, it’s not difficult to rise to that state of consciousness. That is what we have to achieve. It’s possible for men as well as for women. They don’t have to think, “How can we, Mother, do it after all?” You see, all such people are not good for Sahaja Yoga. Those who have diffidence about themselves cannot do anything, but those who are surrendered, and those who think they can do it, can manage all this transfer of their power to the Divine Power. Just put it on the Divine Power. Now, supposing I have a car which can drive Me down. So, if I have a car, then I don’t put bullocks on it, I don’t push My car, I just sit inside and use it. In the same way, if you have this great power around you, if your Sahasrara is absolutely, completely submerged in it, then you’ll be amazed how things work out for yourself. I will give you an example of a Sahaja Yogi, he’s no more now. He was a fisherman, ordinary fisherman, but also he was educated, so he was working in a bank. This one was going one day to do some Sahaja Yoga work and he had to go by boat. So, when he came out, he saw the whole place was clouded and it was about to burst out into a big havoc. So, he got very much perturbed about it that, “What is this?” Immediately- his Sahasrara was so open and good - immediately he said, “Now, I leave it to this Divine Power to stop all these things happening. I don’t want it to rain and to have any problem till I come back home and go off to sleep.” “And it was surprising,” people told Me that, "Mother, the clouds and everything were there all throughout, but it did not rain, it did not do anything and there was no chaos of any kind.” He went to another island where he had to go, he did Sahaja Yoga and came back. And then when he went to sleep, then only, everything started pouring down. So, nature, everything, every leaf, every flower, everything is worked out through the Divine Power. So, we should not have our ego that we can do something ourselves, we can manage ourselves. Once you have that kind of a thing, you are not yet that much developed, you are not that much grown up in Sahaja Yoga. But to grow in Sahaja Yoga should not be difficult for you, because you have guidelines. Those people who got their realisation, very few of them like Sufis and we had some saints in India, all of them, how much they must have struggled! Nobody to guide them, nobody to help them, nobody to tell them about what they can achieve and despite that, they were very satisfied people, very happy people and they worked it out so well. They saw the whole world with another angle as you can also see. But they were not upset and they had such self-confidence, they had such knowledge of their own that they achieved through their meditative process and the way they have written books, some of them are so great. It’s very surprisingly how they have achieved these great verses, such full of knowledge. One cannot understand that they had no guidance, nobody was to tell them. But one thing with them was that they always tried to look after their Sahasrara. Now one thing is there, obstructing Sahasrara is the movement of your Agnya into thoughts. That’s the only thing, that’s the only thing that stops your entry into Sahaja Yoga. Thoughts are coming all the time, because a human being is born who reacts to everything, react to this and react to that. Then the thoughts come in and thoughts go. There’s a big crowd of thoughts. Because of that, your attention cannot cross over Agnya and can’t reside in the Sahasrara. So first of all one should see, ki (that) what sort of thoughts are coming. You have to condemn yourself sometimes. You have to say, ”What nonsense! What have I been doing? What’s the matter with me? How could I do all that?” Once you start doing that, these thoughts will start disappearing. These thoughts are coming from two angles, one from the ego and another from your conditionings and these are so much built up within you that they don’t allow your Agnya to be crossed. That’s why we have two bija mantras of “hum’, ‘kshum.” First one is, when it is conditioning, you are endowed with this kind of a fear: “I shouldn’t do like this, I shouldn’t do like that, it’s not allowed, that is not allowed.” That’s the conditioning part of it. Conditioning can be of many types, but the ego part of is that,“I must overpower everybody, I must get this, I must be able to rule everyone.” These two things are there in the mind which are all the time crossing over. So, it is important that we should go into thoughtless awareness and that thoughtless awareness is the real way that your Sahasrara can be nourished by the Kundalini. Because Kundalini cannot go through, cannot pass through. And for that, as I said, there are two bija mantras, is, one is 'Hum' another 'Kshum'. So, if you are conditioned, you are frightened, you are afraid and you had ideas about yourself... These days the way the people are describing, they’ll say, “ I am an extrovert!” , somebody will say, “I am an introvert”, somebody will say, “I am a hippy, I am that, I am that.” All kinds of things they can have attributed to themselves. But these ideas are all coming from outside, they are not from inside. To get to the inner side of yourself, the subtler side of your being, you must allow the Kundalini to go through the Agnya and to cross the Agnya is a very important thing in modern times and for that you have to meditate. If you can meditate with complete faith in yourself, this Agnya can be opened out - with surrendering to the Divine. You have to surrender yourself to the Divine and when this Agnya opens, you’ll be amazed, your Sahasrara is just waiting to transfer, to give you all the help that you need through the All-Pervading Power. Your connection of Sahasrara with the All-Pervading Power is established and by that you’ll be amazed how all these seven chakras work for you, how they help you, how they try to give you whatever is the real knowledge about everything! This real knowledge that you get is very joy giving. You can see this real knowledge in everything. You don’t have to start reading any book about it. In every situation and in every person, in every flower, in every natural happening, you see clearly the hand of the Divine. Once you see the hand of the Divine, your ego starts disappearing. Once you say that: “It’s You, You do everything.” Kabira has said something great about this, He said that: When the goat is alive, it goes on saying: “I, mai, mai, I am, I am.” But when it is slaughtered and its intestines are made into strings, which are used for cleaning the cotton, then it says: “Tu hi, tu hi," "You are, You are, You are.” You see, in this symbolic way, they have suggested that you have to become dissolved into this Divine Power. It’s the Divine Power that does everything,“What am I? I was just a drop and I fell into this Ocean of Awareness, of the Divine Power and that is taking over and working it out.” That will help you a lot to be a great Sahaja Yogi. You develop curing powers, but still you are not proud of it. You develop of course awakening powers, you are not proud of it; you develop so many creative powers and you are not proud of it. You become really very, very creative, extremely creative. But the greatest thing happens to you [is] that you become a global personality. So you start seeing the problem of every country, of every other nation, where they have problems. But these problems when you see, you don’t see like other people, because others may like to use it for their own purpose, maybe for media, maybe for something. What you want to see is that these problems are solved. You see, your powers are so great with this kind of a mind, I would say, which is dominated completely by the Divine Power that, whatever disturbs you, immediately is taken over and It starts working out. Many, many problems have been solved by Sahaja Yoga, and also they can be solved on a very universal level, if you are a global person. If you are a global person, then what happens is that you become a, sort of a, vehicle or you can become like a channel for this Divine Power to act, because you are purely a global personality; not attached to this, attached to that, but a pure Sahaj personality, which can be used by this Divine Power very easily. For that, as I told in the afternoon also, that we have to be careful about few things that we have. Firstly anger. Anger is the worst thing that we have. Angry for what? There is people who talk like that: “I was very angry.” They are proud of their anger. Anger is the sign of complete stupidity, absolute stupidity. There’s no need to get angry with anyone because by anger you don’t solve the problem. With anger you spoil yourself. With anger you do in your own nature. With anger you really spoil the situation. So no use having any anger about anything. But if anything happens that angers you, you should settle down and see for yourself why is it wrong, why is it disturbing you. Your seeing itself will help this problem to be solved. You must, first of all, realise that you are a special personality, that your Sahasrara has been opened out to this all Divine Power, as if you have entered into the realm of Divinity. You are a great guest in that Great Court of Divine domain. You are not an ordinary person. And so, once you understand why you have Sahaja Yoga and why you have got realisation, is that there’s something special. But that should not give you any ego. It’s not for ego that you have to have this. But it’s for understanding that you have to play into the hands of the Divine. It is, this play is something I could explain like this, that, if you are, supposing, an artist, then in the hand of an artist is the brush and the brush never thinks that it is doing anything. It is the artist who is doing everything. In the same way, when you are one with the Divine Power, you just feel, “I’m not doing anything. It’s the artist who is doing. It’s the artist who is managing,” And who is the artist? Is this Divine Power which loves you, which cares for you, which looks after you, which absolutely is identified with you. You’ll be surprised, I have got so many letters from people - how Sahaja has helped them, how at the right moment they got the help, at the point of complete destruction, how they were saved. So many people have written to Me. But I’m not surprised, because if you are one with the Divine, It looks after you. It has all the powers, all the powers. Only one power it doesn’t have to control you. If you want to ruin yourself, It gives you freedom, complete freedom, if you want to ruin yourself, “Ruin!”. If you don’t want to accept Divine Power, “Alright, don’t accept!” It’s a complete freedom to do what you like with yourself. That is one thing It has given and that’s why you must curb down that freedom and respect the Divine Power. Today is…I like the day when it is the Mother’s, I should say, Mother’s Day also. Because I think only a Mother can work it out that way. One has to have a lot of patience with people. What I have seen with all these great incarnations who came, They just disappeared, in a very short time They lived, very short time. Somebody was crucified about 33 years of age, somebody took a samadhi at 23 years of age, because I think They couldn’t bear the way people were stupid. They couldn’t see the point that they could do something for human beings. They lost their confidence, I think, or maybe that They thought, “It’s useless to work for these people.” Like that, They took a position that- is better to disappear. But Mother’s position is different. She’ll go on struggling and fighting for Her child. She’ll fight it out to the last to see that the child gets all the benefits and this patience and this love and this forgiveness is innately built-in in a mother, because Her attitude is very different. Not any achievement, not any big name or what you call a sort of an award or anything. It is just She does it because She is a Mother. And that is what is the sign of any mother, if she is a real mother, at least for her own children, she will go all out, she will work out everything for day in day out and to save the child from disaster. But Sahaja Yoga is a much bigger family and for that you really had to be worked out through the Mother’s principle. You cannot take any other principle. Like there were very great warriors we had and they have done a great job also and they have worked out as warriors. Then we had some who were very sacrificing. All kinds of people they were. They worked very hard to establish dharma in people, but they could not. I thought of one thing, that - no use establishing dharma. First of all give them realisation, when in the light of the Spirit they see what’s wrong, they become dharmic automatically, so best way is to do that. Not to force dharma on them. Because [if] you put dharma on them, they don’t know how to bear it, they can’t digest. So this will be the best way is to just make them aware of their Spirit. Once the light of the Spirit comes, in the light they see everything clearly, then no problem is there. And that’s why this Mother’s quality is very helpful. I mean in every country there has been a manifestation of the Mother Principle, in every country and it has been depicted and said, but later on, it was taken over by people who didn’t want to talk about Mother because they couldn’t justify themselves the way they were behaving. So they said best is not to talk of the Mother. Also those who were very much advanced people, very matured, who were really incarnations, did talk about the Mother all the time, but still talk was talk. Now, this has to [be] worked out as a Mother has to work. So, in your own way, when you are doing Sahaja Yoga, there also you have to be a mother. More mother’s quality than the father’s quality, that there’s no ambition, there’s no competition, there’s no jealousies, nothing. Just you want your children to come up and to grow into their spirituality. If that is the only attitude we have then you’ll be amazed how satisfied you’ll feel, because this is a very, very joy-giving thing, to see people growing in spirituality. Not only talking about it, not only reading about it, but actually happening, actualising within yourself. So this quality is very helpful and that really helps every Sahaja Yogi to be patient, to be kind, to be humble. But you have to correct also. But there’s a way of correction of another person, of people who are coming not from the divine world but from the normal world, so it’s a difficult task to correct them. Some people are so hot-tempered they can’t bear it - doesn’t matter, you have to forgive them. But, best is to concentrate on people who are simple, who are loving, who are affectionate and then gradually all these complicated people, also, will join. Your way of dealing with others has to be motherly. The motherly relationship has to be there. I was surprised that in the Western literature I don’t find any description of a child and a mother’s relationship. It’s very surprising. There’s no, no description at all, how the mother sees the child, how he walks, how he falls down, then how he gets up and how he talks. All kinds of beautiful things are described, but not in the Western countries. I don’t know, they never saw this point I think, that is very important that to describe the attention of the mother: how she is loving, how she is kind, how she tolerates so much nonsense and how she keeps it in, as a, sort of a, forgiving thing. Not just to use it against the child or to trouble. Sometimes you have to correct, you have to tell, but at the right time, at the right place if they are told, the child also sees the point whatever is there. The first most convincing thing is the affection and the love of the mother. She goes on forgiving and giving that assurance that, “I have a mother, nothing can happen to me,” and this assurance works very well. But the same assurance you have to give to other Sahaja Yogis who are getting realisation from you. Let them feel that you are not angry with them. They are stupid, I know, they are sometimes violent. I’ve gone through all kinds of people, but only thing that has worked is pure love. Pure love has no attributes of expecting something. You just give love and try to improve that person with full attention. But in divine work, you don’t have to get attached to that person. Supposing there’s somebody who is not up to the point, is also troublesome, gets angry with you, annoyed, insults you and everything: so, forget it, they are many others. There’s no need to run after one person, to get attached to that person or to make them fame. Now, main thing is that I feel always the Sahaja Yogis always feel that I am their own, which is a fact. Whether I talk to you, whether I meet you or whatever it is, you have to know that I’m your Mother and any problem you have, you can always tell Me. But sometimes the way people tell Me problems also, I feel how low they are. Their mentality is so low. What are they asking Me? Supposing you go to some king and ask him for, say, half a dollar, then what will the king say? “What is the matter with this person? He doesn’t know what he should ask for!” In the same way, one feels that way that when you are asking anything to your Mother, it should be of some value, some great value. It should have the value of complete satisfaction. When you ask for something, it should give you complete satisfaction. But I have seen people asking for this thing, for that thing. I mean it’s to such an extent that I sometimes feel, “Oh God, how am I getting all these people around Me who are desiring something very low, very mean, insipid!” But if you are one with the Sahasrara, then Sahasrara itself works; It will bring you contact with people, in contact with such people that you are amazed how It works. I went to Turkey and My experience of Turkey has proved that beyond doubt. I never expected, but the Turkish people of all the people of the world have taken to Sahaja Yoga just like a windfall! I can’t understand how they have accepted Me. And there were at least 2000 people in the follow-up and people were finding it impossible to get them round and tell them and when they had very close meetings also they had so many people and they continued to be there. Now, maybe that is a very disturbed country, with fundamentalism very much working out, but everywhere, every country has problems and, has we should say, a kind of a very destructive image. Every country has. But in some countries, I don’t know how it sparks and once they become Sahaja Yogis, no problem. It’s no problem about anything if they are Sahaja Yogis, you see, you don’t have to tell them, they themselves work it out, they understand it, what is it. Like we have every country which has problems, which has people who are not of a very great level, who are not great seekers. Maybe in some countries, I feel those who were great seekers are lost; like England, I feel that all the seekers are lost by drugs, hippyism, all nonsense. America is the worst of all, which is so much lost into wrong seeking. And it’s difficult to find people there who have right seeking. Gradually it is working out, but still, I must say we should not think of any one particular country where Sahaja Yoga is not working out so much or in some place is not working out so much. It is what we have to think globally that Sahaja Yoga is growing and you are part and parcel of that society which is Sahaja Yoga. It’s a very rare society which they never had. There are one or two Sufis here and there, one or two realised souls here and there who only suffered. All their lives they were tortured, nobody looked at them. I had great hopes about Maharashtra, but I’m so disappointed, because they tortured all these great saints all throughout, you know, so badly, in such a mean manner that I think they are still paying for it, and despite the fact I would have done so much work there, what I feel is that their karmas are not good, because they still, I would say, it’s a rotten country, it’s becomes so rotten. You can see that, the way people are behaving and whole thing is so bad, though Sahaja Yoga is there, no doubt, but I wouldn’t say it is of that level as it is in the North, North of India, very surprising, North Indians never knew anything about Sahaja Yoga. They were not such religious people like that, but how the North people have taken to Sahaja Yoga is very surprising. So, you can’t say where the light will show, just can’t say. And wherever it shows we should accept, wherever it doesn’t show we should not feel bad about it. What can you do? You cannot sort of break their heads for Sahasrara, (laughing) their Sahasrara has to be opened out and with your motherly love, with your motherly understanding, I am sure you can do it. May not be to the same extent in every country, but I’m sure as I feel that, maybe, the punyas of these great saints will work and maybe wherever I felt little bit disappointed, I feel that all these places will work out and Sahaja Yoga will grow. But first and foremost is your Sahasrara. Only your Sahasrara can reflect the light of the Divine. So, your Sahasrara is extremely important. You must meditate to enrich your Sahasrara, to cure it, to make it completely nourished by the Kundalini. There’s no need to do many rituals, but meditation and also little bit of taking bandhan, even now, today, is necessarily, I think, when you go out, because still Kali Yuga is working its own pangs and Satya Yuga is trying to come out. We are the ones who are going to support, look after the Satya Yuga and that’s why the Sahasrara opening is very, very important. It’s very important and those who want to grow should meditate every day, whatever time you may come home, maybe in the morning, maybe in the evening, any time. But you will know that you are meditating when you can get into thoughtless awareness, then you will know. Your reaction will be zero. Look at something, you will just look at it. You won’t react, because you are thoughtless. You won’t react. When that reaction is not there, then everything, you will be surprised, is Divine, because reaction is your Agnya’s problem. Once you are absolutely thoughtlessly aware, you are one with the Divine. So much so that Divine takes over every activity, every moment of your life and looks after you and you feel completely secured, one with the Divine and enjoy the blessings of the Divine. May God bless you!

6/9/1998

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Scientific Conference [English Transcript] Shri Mataji: Can’t have lights outside? Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of truth. These are special times, I call them blossom time. See, all the flowers are out now. In the same way human flowers have come in the seeking. Seeking the truth. For ages, they have been seeking the truth and now they are born at this special time, to get their aim. So many of them got lost because they did not know what to seek. Even the science is a ‘seeking’. And the seeking in the science is in the limited area. Because science is diversified. Somebody is a physicist, he will seek truths in physics. Some in the medical science, some in the chemistry, like that. And they go on diversified, all the time into different lines of seeking. But the truth is different. In the area of truth, if you have to seek, then the first thing you have to have, humility; that so far you have not known the truth. If you think you have known the truth, then nobody can force you. But if you are humble about it, that you don't know the truth and also that you should have the purest desire to know the truth. These are special times- as I said, because, there are so many seekers who are born. And they have to get, what really they are seeking. So far there have been lots of theories about the truth. But it never happened that they knew the truth as reality. So there has been diversification, even in all those theories. Some say, this religion is good, some say, that religion is good and all kinds of diversification started. And science being an amoral area, there was no connection established between science and absolute truth. Science is not absolute, it is always challenged. But truth is One. It’s singular. And it cannot be challenged. But the main thing is, the truth which is the absolute truth, has to become the reality. As you have chemistry, you have to say, periodic law, as a reality. Also in physics, in the same way, it has to be a reality. So the seeking of truth, when it reaches that point, where the truth becomes reality, it is an absolute truth. So what is the absolute truth? I can give you as, a theory; and it has to be proved. In a way it goes, in a way, goes beyond the field of modern science. But it is a science. It is an absolute science, which cannot be challenged, which cannot be changed. And which everyone knows as the truth. If I say something, it’s a theory to you, but it can be proved. We don’t know much about ourselves. We don’t know why we get those diseases which are incurable. We don’t know why people go mad or lunatic type. Schizophrenic on the physical level. Also, we don't know, how these genes are within us. And how can we change our genes? I can go on and on and on on about these states but the main thing, is that I tell you the theory of absolute truth. For that, you don't need any academic qualification. You don't need any elegance or any kind of very ritualistic ideas. It is very very simple. It is very simple because It is vital. For example, we know how to breathe. Nobody has told us how to breathe. But we know. How? Because it is very vital, so this knowledge is within us. Now the time has come, it is vital, that we should all know the absolute truth. The absolute truth is, that, you are not this body, this mind, not this emotions, not this ego but you are the pure spirit. The scientist can challenge and they should. Because you can’t see a spirit under a microscope. So, what I’m telling you is, about, that you are the pure spirit, is a fact, is a reality, which has to work out in you. Then the scientist will have to accept, that, it is a science; science of spirit. Now, If I say, that, we are human beings, but we are not yet, at an absolute level. If it is absolute, then everybody will know the same. But, that is not the thing, everybody thinks differently. And accept something as a dogma. And there are fights over it. Discussions, conferences. But this is something, that has to happen to you. It’s, you have to become something. For example, you see so many lights. These lights are of no use if they are not connected to the mains. In the same way, if I say, that we have to get connected to the mains. Now, what is the thing that is which I call as the all-pervading power of divine love. Now you see all these beautiful flowers. Different colours, different fragrance, different forms, if you ask a doctor, “ who runs your heart?". He will say, 'it is an autonomous nervous system'. But who is the auto? That they can’t answer. But they are honest. So they will say, ‘we don’t know’. So one has to go beyond, this circumference of knowledge, to know, the pure knowledge. And that I call as a modern, meta-modern discovery. Now you are the spirit, is said by so many saints, by incarnations by everybody else. This is not a new statement. But scientist always thought, that the area of saintliness, spirituality is not connected with them. But whether you are a scientist, a doctor, a philosopher, a poet, a politician, all of you are nothing but pure spirits. It doesn't matter what you think, as truth. Only thing, you must have a pure desire to know Absolute Truth. For this, our creator has done a tremendous job. He has put a very wonderful energy within your sacrum bone, ‘ sacrum bone’. That means, even the Greeks knew it is a sacred bone. But they got lost. Now, this energy in the sacrum bone. Is a fact. But, first you have to verify. You should not just believe me, because I’m saying so. But, you must verify. And also verify, if there is this all-pervading power of divine love. For that, this power, which is coiled up in the triangular bone has to rise. It has to rise, through six centres; centres of energy. And pierce through this fontanel bone area and become connected with this all-pervading power. Once it happens, then you get completely integrated because all these centres act in unison. These inner centres are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and also spiritual being. If it happens, a person becomes a spiritual person, in a sense that the spirit shines. In your attention, And you know the absolute truth. You know it on your finger-tips. It’s said in ‘Koran’ Mohammed sahib clearly, that at the time of resurrection, your hands will speak against you. That, your hands will tell what’s wrong with you. Now, again I would say, we must verify. If it happens to you if the kundalini is awakened and you become one with this all-pervading divine love, then you start feeling cool vibrations in your hand. Very cooling vibrations. And you feel thoughtlessly aware. Because, we live in the future, or in the past through our mind. When we live in the past, it doesn't exists, it's finished. And the future doesn't exists at all. Present is the reality. So what happens that your thoughts, do not disturb you and you become silent inside. So the first thing happens to a person, he becomes extremely peaceful. No competitions. No fighting. No violence. He becomes extremely peaceful within. And this peace is emitted out to others also. Is a science of the inner-being. That we all have. But we are yet not aware of it. So when you become absolutely peaceful. You can’t have quarrelled, you can’t have wars, any more. If this happens in the mass scale, then whole humanity can be emancipated. And they will understand, their real value, absolute value as spiritual people. Now, these centres get enlightened. And with this enlightenment, the first thing that happens that people get cured. I must tell you that the Russians are really very special people. I knew this long time back. I don't know how they have become so deep. Maybe, through introspection. That they get their realization, in no time. I have known people who came to my programme and got cured. One lady, who was epileptic or something, I don’t know what she had, she came sitting on a chair, wheel-chair and then she suddenly got up and start running. It happened to so many people, that they got cured. For which, you don't have to pay anything. You don't have to go for a diagnosis. It is can be very horrible rigmarole. You can feel it on your finger-tips. The diagnosis, what's wrong with the other person. In the same way, you can feel about yourself. All this looks so mythical, but it’s actually, ‘The Reality’. And the saints and the great incarnations, try their level best, but could not go into the heads of people. Now mentally, all the time we are thinking- thinking, bombarded by all kinds of thoughts in our head. And we really get absolutely distressed with it and get into a funny type of situations. Schizophrenia, very common. Mental what you can call distress and also lunas. Nowadays, a new disease has appeared is as Alzheimer. If you study, the life of a person who suffers from Alzheimer, he must be a very aggressive person. All his life, he must have really, tortured people; demanding, fighting, quarrelling, and possessive. And thinking of no end of himself or herself. Such a person can get Alzheimer, after certain age. Deviation in the brain takes place and a person assumes the lifestyle, which he had followed before; without being conscious of it. Now there are so many things like that which can be explained, once you are connected to this all-pervading power of divine love. So as I said this divine love creates these flowers, runs our heart does all the living work. For example, this body doesn’t accept anything foreign. But, when a foetus is formed, it not only accepts, but, looks after it and expels it at the right time, at the right moment. You can’t explain, who guides this body to do all that. So the scientist also, many of them, who are truthful have discovered, that there are many things that they cannot explain. All this is, because, we have not yet found our destination. Once you find your destination. You’ll be amazed to see yourself being, such a great thing. Created by the love of the divine. A special person, who can cure others. Who can, give peace to others. Who can, give love to others. So many things happen. Like you become much younger than to your age is; you become extremely creative. I have known people who were absolutely dry charted accountants, have become great poets. You become very creative. Some musicians in India, who have achieved a great name in music are mostly Sahaj Yogies. ‘Sahaj’, Sa means ‘with’, ‘ Ja’ is ‘born with you’. What is born with you, is the ‘Right’, to become an enlightened personality. Then you start understanding all the Sufi poetry and all such mystic poetry, which you never understood, before. You become very powerful, but this is the power of love. Which doesn’t, oppress; Which cares and which loves. Another power, that you have, because you become collectively conscious. Our learned professor, just now told you, that we are not different, we are ‘one’. it’s a fact. But, you have to 'become'. Once you 'become', then you know, you are all 'one'. In everybody’s heart, this divinity shines. But it has to be brought, this part of the divine has to be brought into your attention. And when it happens, your attention becomes enlightened. Paying attention to anybody, you can help. Paying attention to any country, you can help. Your attention is so powerful, that it can cross thousands and thousands of miles. The attention controls the Sun and the Moon. You will be amazed, how powerful you have become. Now, if it’s very very cold, it will become hot, tolerably hot. And if it is intolerably hot, with your presence, it will become mild. In the presence of such a person, these flowers though they are cut out, they start blowing, though they are cut off. The vitality, which we call as the life vitality, you become the source of that. But, ‘Becoming’ is the point. I must say Russia, is a very special country. I know you have gone through lots of problems. But that has really made pure gold out of you. And the people here, only the scientist of this country are so open headed. Nowhere in the world, I’ve found so many scientists with such an open head. Of course, we have some people in other countries. But so many we have here, who are scientist, who are dealing with the material science and suddenly become spiritual scientists. With this collective consciousness, you can feel the centres of others, as well. You can of course feel you own centres through self-knowledge and if you, somehow, know, how to cure yourself, you can cure others. Sitting down here, you will know how to cure others. You will know about the people who had a past, who are. ‘no more’, also about them, you will know on your fingertips. You will not bother as to what dress they are making, how they look, but what are there centre is like. Don’t have to go into details about it, you don't have to study like a science study. I must say I have also read science and medical science because I knew I'll have to talk to a scientist as well as to doctors. And it has worked here in this great country of yours, I really tell you how people, who are so well educated, so highly placed in life are so humble, to accept this knowledge. For this you don’t have to pay. Is a natural process of your evolution. You were an ordinary human being but now you have become a spiritual human being. This will change your life completely. You will be peaceful and you will be witnessing the whole thing, like a drama. Also, the greatest thing happens to you, that, you become joyous. You are full of joy. Joy is singular, it’s not happiness or unhappiness, it’s just Joy. You don’t criticise, you don’t find faults with others. But you enjoy everything, even you laugh at the absurdities and ridiculousness. Now, if you see in these modern times; when you are born, people have become, some of them have become, worse than animals. They do things which even, animals don’t do. Also, there are other problems like drugs and this and that. But by telling them, not to do, they will never accept on the mental level. But after self-hood, you become so dignified and you know this is all so ridiculous. In England, overnight the young people gave up drugs. Overnight, people changed. So this is the time of this transition, of this resurrection. For which you don’t have to do anything outside. It’s only in your own body, it will work. It’s your ‘right’ to have it. And as this flower has a right to flower and give fragrance, in the same way, you have ‘right to be enlightened’. No obligation of mine. I just love. Especially Russia, I really love you very much. Because you are so lovable, people. That, you respect me also as Mother, I love you like my children. I don’t know, how to explain a Mother having millions of children. But it is so. And it is so energy-giving to me as well as to you. There is a record of love. I don’t have to quarrel with you, argue with you or to shout at you, it just works. You don’t know this divine power it's such a powerful thing. How it manages things. How it manipulates everything, for your good. Everything negative drops out. Anything that is aggressive disappears. And your life becomes very smooth and beautiful. You become a satisfied soul. I think Russians are quite satisfied, compare to other people. Such a beautiful human being you become, that you respect yourself and you respect others. A new civilization has to come up and it’s working out more in your country. Russians, people use to be frightened of them. Now the situation is very different. Russians are now loved by everyone. Because, there are so many Sahaja yogis in Russia, who are very deep and mature. Not so many in other countries. They have so many [UNCLEAR] I ‘m very thankful to you and to all of you for inviting me to this conference so that I could talk to you and to people, who are of science. Like a blind man whose eyes opened, he sees everything for reality. In the same way, you see everything all types of miracles as reality. And this is going to happen to you all tonight and also later. Thank you very much. I think I should give Realization. Talking is talking only. You have to have proof of what I’ve said, but if you have come here to criticise and is your mind in the opposite direction, it will be difficult. So tell your mind, to keep quiet. All of them have got it already. Now, I have to make one humble request, that please take out your shoes, if possible. Because this mother earth helps us a lot. Put Both your hands towards me like this and both the feet apart from each other. Just now, don’t ask, why. I’ll tell you later on. Only have pure desire in your mind, that you should get your enlightenment. Little higher –{for hands’} Now you can close your eye and ask a question in your mind not loudly. Mother am’I a Spirit? – Three times. Now see, if you are feeling a cool or a hot like vibrations on your fingertips. Now, raise your left hand on top of your fontanel bone area, it was a soft bone in your childhood and bent your head. Don't touch with your hand just keep aloof and move it up and down and see for yourself, if there is cool-breeze or a hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area? Now please have the left hand towards me and bent your head again and see if there is a cool or hot breeze coming out. Now put both the hands towards me, again and open your eye. Put both your hands up and ask a question; any one of these three questions, you ask three times, Anyone -“Mother is this the cool-breeze of the Holy Ghost ?” Second One - “Mother is this the all-pervading power of divine love ?” Third One – “Mother is this the ‘Paramchaitnaya'? Ask one of them, three times, in your heart.” Put your head Up and ask this question. Now please take down your hands. All those who have felt, cool or hot breeze on their fingertips or on their palms or out of their fontanel bone area, please raise both your hands. I said both of your hands. I said this is what it is- Russians. I bow to you all. You are my own, my own children. May God bless you. Thank You. Sahaja yogi- Everybody has it. Shri Mataji-All of them. Sahaja yogi - Sahastra open. Shri Mataji - You saw? Sahaja yogi -Sahastra open of all. Shri Mataji -You saw it? Sahaja yogi -Miracle photo. Shri Mataji -Show them. Shri Mataji - Where will you show, where is the screen to show. You show them, I’ve seen them all. This is the proof of there is all-pervading power. I don't do anything. It is this all-pervading power, is trying to prove ‘Me’. Sahaja Yogi- I want to thank Shri Mataji, The storm of applause which has last sounded, gives me the opportunity, to thank Shri Mataji for the interesting and rich rapport, which will remain in our hearts. I’m a physicist, that’s why I had like to start my presentation with the words, which were pronounced about physicists and specialist in natural science. While discussing the idea of ‘The Truth’, it was said that every scientist is searching the truth in his subject - a physicist in physics, a chemist in chemistry. From this point of view me and my colleague, co-author of this report, Mr Shipov are wrong physicists. We never were searching the truth either in physics or in natural sciences in general. We were looking for the knowledge in Physics, realizing that the Truth is much higher than physics and natural science. All this work is based on fundamental, the work which has been carried out for the last 20 years is based on the fundamental ideas, different from the cores of so-called this, phenomenological theories, which starts not from nature, but from the starting presumption, which adequacy cannot be proven, as a rule. In the works of my colleagues, Mr Shipov, it was shown that apart from the four obvious interactions in nature, there exists one more known to mankind for a long long time. Besides strong interaction – within the atomic nucleus, strong interaction. Besides weak interaction which defined electronic disintegration of the nucleus, apart from electromagnetic and gravitational interactions, which are known to us from the school. There is one more interaction, one more field which is called ‘Torsion’. The theory of electromagnetism was started with simple tests, when in ancient Greece they were taking an amber comb, using it to comb hair and drawing a bit of fluff. This experiment defines the age of electromagnetism. Ancient Chinese manuscripts were found and they are dated the 6 -7 years before B.C. though the people with the [UNCLEAR] looking for water. Yes, looking for water. 6-7 years Before Christ. At that time the humanity practically used the torsion fields, though the term itself appeared only in 1922, due to the works by Cartane. It was shown in these works that all the scientific information about the structure of the world can be represented in a very simple scheme, it's known from the school. Everybody knows, Hard substances, liquid and gases. In the middle of the century, we found that the elementary particles of plasma. And after that in the thirties, it was the work by Einstein Physical vacuum Particle or plasma Gases Liquids Hydro substances The works performed by Mr. Shipov proves, that there is a higher level of matter organization, which got the name of primary torsion fields. It appeared that from modern science, the higher levels cannot be described, using the language of formulas. And all of them were united in a general group, called ‘’Absolute Nothing’, the matter which gives birth to everything and absorbs everything. We could call this ‘Absolute Everything’. Now I would like you to remember the table of Alice Bailey, which gives the structure of different planes. Many remember that Bailey ‘s table contains 7 planes. The lowest level is the Physical plane, which consists of 7 sub-planes in its turn. I’d like to draw your attention to the fact, that three sub-planes fully coincide with what you can see here. At that time science already knew hard substances, liquids and gases. And further on, there are four sub-planes, which were not discovered, they are called by her the fourth Ether, the third ether, the second and first ether. Now we can state that science can define these ethers, that is to show what it is, at least some of them. The fourth ether is, what we called here ‘plasma’ (see the table). The third ether by A Bailey is the physical vacuum. The second ether by A Bailey is the primary torsion fields in these structures, the fields which are connected with consciousness. Before I start speaking about first and second ether, I had like to say something different. It is not by chance that I have just mentioned that we were never looking for the ‘Truth’ in physics. We understood, that, when we have to get some new knowledge from physics and that knowledge is limited. And secondly, we have to show, the place of our new knowledge. And here we say, that the modern science was able to disclose the content of the fourth, third and second ether. But the modern science cannot explain what is the first and second ether and all the planes of higher level. We have all the ground to believe that the modern mathematical apparatus has exhausted its capacity, moreover, new non-binary logic is needed for new discoveries. And many scientists' think that all their discoveries are their own creation. More than five years ago, Roger Penrose, an English physicists theorist published a book. As far as I know, he was not familiar with esoterics. He was only dealing with mathematics. He published the book ‘ New mentality of the superior'. In this book, he analysed the knowledge - where new knowledge is coming from. He made his analysis based on strict modern mathematics and physics. The conclusion he made was quite unbelievable for such a person, as he was. He said, that, we can not understand the proof of theorems and laws, do we have the capacity to understand where the new knowledge comes from? Only in that case, if we assume that somewhere there exists the data bank, which accumulates all the information in full volume on everything; and it is only unclear, as it was put by Penrose; " where from and how this knowledge comes to the minds of scientist?”. I think that any esoteric could explain how it works?. As a result, we have to agree, that if a scientist received an idea, it means that he was allowed to get his knowledge. And if some scientific ideas come across any difficulties, it only means that either it will not be possible to understand this knowledge now, or that this is not the right time for this knowledge, it’s too early. One can say that in the framework of the theory of physical vacuum, many results are not simply scientific but technically concrete. Not only theoretically, but practically it was comprehended that torsion field play an important role in the consciousness. One could tell about this for a long time, but I had like to give only one example. There is a device, which has the size of two cigarette boxes, there is a metal furnace for melting the metal. Moreover, this furnace is grounded and the electromagnetic signal cannot go inside the furnace. I switch on this box and after the melting is over, we found out that in this volume the structure of metal has changed. I couldn’t achieve such a result by electromagnetic waves, even if it was not screened. Moreover, I changed the structure of metal 100 kg in volume, bearing a tool which consumes less electricity than a lamp of a pocket flashlight. This is not an experiment, this is a technological patent. Then I invite to the same laboratory, a person with an open channel or an open vision. He sees this experiment and he understands what this device radiates and what happens with the metal, when it is affected by this device. Then the person is offered to do the same, the way he has seen it. After this is done, the following result is clear, the metal has changed its structure, but the mechanical characteristics have improved by 10-12 %, then in the case with the device. This is a real example of what can be achieved in physics with the help of subtle energies, which are called in physics ‘torsion fields’ both by a device or by a human being. Now I had like to tell you about one more result, very important. Even before the war, it was discovered, when nobody pays attention than when one takes a picture, no matter what or whose, torsion fields or subtle energies cause changes of the structure of the emulsion. And it is possible to say exactly what is changing there. They changing the spinning structure of the film emulsion. And it doesn't affect the visible image. Secondly, in our country, they found 6 researchers who could get different images working with the same equipment, different from other people. To understand And it is possible, to understand those structures in the shape of balls, lines and other complicated structural formations are photo registration of the torsion field. But there were some strange situations, if a person has as well developed vision or open channel, then while taking pictures, some field structures appear on the photo. And if a film made by an ordinary person on the same equipment, who doesn’t have all these qualities, then the picture doesn’t show these torsion field structures. So in no time, we could guess that a well-known technical principle is working here. When a picture is shooting by a person with corresponding qualities, then in the course of picture taking the emulsion will absorb both; the conventional field and a torsion field from the source of photo object. And if simultaneously with this, the support signal as engineers say, coming from this person is also absorbed, then visualization is taking place. The best result was achieved by, Mr.Karpov more than ten years ago in our country. This is the image of a person in the course of an active meditation. You see that there exists a brightly expressed global structure of the torsion field – subtle energies. There are three streams one of them is coming from the person himself and two parallel streams. In another condition, we can see two spiral structure, left and right very similar over the actively working apparatus. Another picture-activity in nature [in the video]. Active work in the open, during the work on the channels, we see, what kind of a structure appears over his head. This is the photo of the group of people who are in the process of a group meditation and we can see that a group of people is creating a collective field which is vividly expressed and is a collectively explained and now I liked to show something unique in my mind. Shri Mataji in the process of work. Here you can see structures which were never ever observed. It is probably that, they reflect primary torsion fields. One more citation –Another picture Shri Mataji in the process of work. I had like to say the following Maybe the level of subtle vibration so high that it is impossible to reflect the structure of this energy formation, on the level of the substance of all the matter and I had like to say subtle vibrations were so high that it is impossible and lastly I’m very sorry that the projector cannot show all six pictures in succession. I’ll change them. In the beginning of the work all looks like an ordinary picture. Second picture -The second picture shows the changes, in the field situation present here. The marking point is the bench and its stripes. The changes of the spinning structure of space is so strong that if it had not been for the bench then it would have been very difficult to identify with all the rest on the picture. Third Picture - It is more deeper penetration. The changes of the structure of space is so strong and so deep that, we can see that it changes at the space itself, as collective fields of the source, which are connected with the people, who are standing behind Shri Mataji. Fourth Photo - The changes in the space structure, deep structure in the next phase is even stronger. You can’t see the bench itself, but you can identify the centre and if you look hard, you will see a vivid face. There is a bright image. I think it would be nice to ask Shri Mataji whose face it is. Whether this is the image of the participants of the meditation or this is the projection of super-plane? Fifth Photo - The last stage of work. Here you can see that the space is fully structured. Shri Mataji is saying, that, “the space is transformed by this force.” Presenter says that that the space is transformed with the help of subtle energies-Torsion fields. by the This structural order is reflecting the high level of spirituality, the high potential of her love. But we have to say that the term Torsion field needs some explanation. The so-called subtle plane doesn't contain any energy. All the interactions and effect on the subtle plane level is performed by information. But the outcome of the information influence maybe the changes in the energy state of the object of interaction One more fact is important there is no limit to the diversity of the structural transformations of space. I don’t say think our collective fantasy will be enough to see, ‘ What structure cannot be realised’; any structure can be realized. This is another rich structure which is different from everything we have just seen, as an illustration of the diversity which is impossible here. This is principally a different plane, which doesn’t coincide with the two previous ones. This is another image. In background, Shri Mataji says, this is the other way round “the other image was of sitting in the heart of the universe.” As you can see, this is a very rich structure and you can see not only on the central part with a lotus formation, but there are a lot of field streams which can be identified individually. If we could have more time, then the circle of this kind of information could be enlarged significantly. There is a big library of this kind of pictures. Apart from the pictures you have seen today, there are images which show the fields coming from the earth itself. In background, Shari Mataji is saying, “this is nothing but vibrations.” And of course all the method used here, cannot fix all the variants, significant information from all the on subtle vibrations of earth. You can usually read about the new pathogen relation in literature. But in reality, there are up to ten different in their nature-radiations which differ by physical characteristics. There could be different types of torsion radiations, one has to think of different regimes of radiations. Some of them have been worked out and are already been used. [Thank You and praise by Sahaja-yogis. In the end, Shri Mataji signs some books for the scientist and physicist and guest. She received a gift of Mother Mary with Christ. And the conference ended with a song about Russia.]

Scientific Conference [English Transcript] Shri Mataji: Can’t have lights outside? Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of truth. These are special times, I call them blossom time. See, all the flowers are out now. In the same way human flowers have come in the seeking. Seeking the truth. For ages, they have been seeking the truth and now they are born at this special time, to get their aim. So many of them got lost because they did not know what to seek. Even the science is a ‘seeking’. And the seeking in the science is in the limited area. Because science is diversified. Somebody is a physicist, he will seek truths in physics. Some in the medical science, some in the chemistry, like that. And they go on diversified, all the time into different lines of seeking. But the truth is different. In the area of truth, if you have to seek, then the first thing you have to have, humility; that so far you have not known the truth. If you think you have known the truth, then nobody can force you. But if you are humble about it, that you don't know the truth and also that you should have the purest desire to know the truth. These are special times- as I said, because, there are so many seekers who are born. And they have to get, what really they are seeking. So far there have been lots of theories about the truth. But it never happened that they knew the truth as reality. So there has been diversification, even in all those theories. Some say, this religion is good, some say, that religion is good and all kinds of diversification started. And science being an amoral area, there was no connection established between science and absolute truth. Science is not absolute, it is always challenged. But truth is One. It’s singular. And it cannot be challenged. But the main thing is, the truth which is the absolute truth, has to become the reality. As you have chemistry, you have to say, periodic law, as a reality. Also in physics, in the same way, it has to be a reality. So the seeking of truth, when it reaches that point, where the truth becomes reality, it is an absolute truth. So what is the absolute truth? I can give you as, a theory; and it has to be proved. In a way it goes, in a way, goes beyond the field of modern science. But it is a science. It is an absolute science, which cannot be challenged, which cannot be changed. And which everyone knows as the truth. If I say something, it’s a theory to you, but it can be proved. We don’t know much about ourselves. We don’t know why we get those diseases which are incurable. We don’t know why people go mad or lunatic type. Schizophrenic on the physical level. Also, we don't know, how these genes are within us. And how can we change our genes? I can go on and on and on on about these states but the main thing, is that I tell you the theory of absolute truth. For that, you don't need any academic qualification. You don't need any elegance or any kind of very ritualistic ideas. It is very very simple. It is very simple because It is vital. For example, we know how to breathe. Nobody has told us how to breathe. But we know. How? Because it is very vital, so this knowledge is within us. Now the time has come, it is vital, that we should all know the absolute truth. The absolute truth is, that, you are not this body, this mind, not this emotions, not this ego but you are the pure spirit. The scientist can challenge and they should. Because you can’t see a spirit under a microscope. So, what I’m telling you is, about, that you are the pure spirit, is a fact, is a reality, which has to work out in you. Then the scientist will have to accept, that, it is a science; science of spirit. Now, If I say, that, we are human beings, but we are not yet, at an absolute level. If it is absolute, then everybody will know the same. But, that is not the thing, everybody thinks differently. And accept something as a dogma. And there are fights over it. Discussions, conferences. But this is something, that has to happen to you. It’s, you have to become something. For example, you see so many lights. These lights are of no use if they are not connected to the mains. In the same way, if I say, that we have to get connected to the mains. Now, what is the thing that is which I call as the all-pervading power of divine love. Now you see all these beautiful flowers. Different colours, different fragrance, different forms, if you ask a doctor, “ who runs your heart?". He will say, 'it is an autonomous nervous system'. But who is the auto? That they can’t answer. But they are honest. So they will say, ‘we don’t know’. So one has to go beyond, this circumference of knowledge, to know, the pure knowledge. And that I call as a modern, meta-modern discovery. Now you are the spirit, is said by so many saints, by incarnations by everybody else. This is not a new statement. But scientist always thought, that the area of saintliness, spirituality is not connected with them. But whether you are a scientist, a doctor, a philosopher, a poet, a politician, all of you are nothing but pure spirits. It doesn't matter what you think, as truth. Only thing, you must have a pure desire to know Absolute Truth. For this, our creator has done a tremendous job. He has put a very wonderful energy within your sacrum bone, ‘ sacrum bone’. That means, even the Greeks knew it is a sacred bone. But they got lost. Now, this energy in the sacrum bone. Is a fact. But, first you have to verify. You should not just believe me, because I’m saying so. But, you must verify. And also verify, if there is this all-pervading power of divine love. For that, this power, which is coiled up in the triangular bone has to rise. It has to rise, through six centres; centres of energy. And pierce through this fontanel bone area and become connected with this all-pervading power. Once it happens, then you get completely integrated because all these centres act in unison. These inner centres are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and also spiritual being. If it happens, a person becomes a spiritual person, in a sense that the spirit shines. In your attention, And you know the absolute truth. You know it on your finger-tips. It’s said in ‘Koran’ Mohammed sahib clearly, that at the time of resurrection, your hands will speak against you. That, your hands will tell what’s wrong with you. Now, again I would say, we must verify. If it happens to you if the kundalini is awakened and you become one with this all-pervading divine love, then you start feeling cool vibrations in your hand. Very cooling vibrations. And you feel thoughtlessly aware. Because, we live in the future, or in the past through our mind. When we live in the past, it doesn't exists, it's finished. And the future doesn't exists at all. Present is the reality. So what happens that your thoughts, do not disturb you and you become silent inside. So the first thing happens to a person, he becomes extremely peaceful. No competitions. No fighting. No violence. He becomes extremely peaceful within. And this peace is emitted out to others also. Is a science of the inner-being. That we all have. But we are yet not aware of it. So when you become absolutely peaceful. You can’t have quarrelled, you can’t have wars, any more. If this happens in the mass scale, then whole humanity can be emancipated. And they will understand, their real value, absolute value as spiritual people. Now, these centres get enlightened. And with this enlightenment, the first thing that happens that people get cured. I must tell you that the Russians are really very special people. I knew this long time back. I don't know how they have become so deep. Maybe, through introspection. That they get their realization, in no time. I have known people who came to my programme and got cured. One lady, who was epileptic or something, I don’t know what she had, she came sitting on a chair, wheel-chair and then she suddenly got up and start running. It happened to so many people, that they got cured. For which, you don't have to pay anything. You don't have to go for a diagnosis. It is can be very horrible rigmarole. You can feel it on your finger-tips. The diagnosis, what's wrong with the other person. In the same way, you can feel about yourself. All this looks so mythical, but it’s actually, ‘The Reality’. And the saints and the great incarnations, try their level best, but could not go into the heads of people. Now mentally, all the time we are thinking- thinking, bombarded by all kinds of thoughts in our head. And we really get absolutely distressed with it and get into a funny type of situations. Schizophrenia, very common. Mental what you can call distress and also lunas. Nowadays, a new disease has appeared is as Alzheimer. If you study, the life of a person who suffers from Alzheimer, he must be a very aggressive person. All his life, he must have really, tortured people; demanding, fighting, quarrelling, and possessive. And thinking of no end of himself or herself. Such a person can get Alzheimer, after certain age. Deviation in the brain takes place and a person assumes the lifestyle, which he had followed before; without being conscious of it. Now there are so many things like that which can be explained, once you are connected to this all-pervading power of divine love. So as I said this divine love creates these flowers, runs our heart does all the living work. For example, this body doesn’t accept anything foreign. But, when a foetus is formed, it not only accepts, but, looks after it and expels it at the right time, at the right moment. You can’t explain, who guides this body to do all that. So the scientist also, many of them, who are truthful have discovered, that there are many things that they cannot explain. All this is, because, we have not yet found our destination. Once you find your destination. You’ll be amazed to see yourself being, such a great thing. Created by the love of the divine. A special person, who can cure others. Who can, give peace to others. Who can, give love to others. So many things happen. Like you become much younger than to your age is; you become extremely creative. I have known people who were absolutely dry charted accountants, have become great poets. You become very creative. Some musicians in India, who have achieved a great name in music are mostly Sahaj Yogies. ‘Sahaj’, Sa means ‘with’, ‘ Ja’ is ‘born with you’. What is born with you, is the ‘Right’, to become an enlightened personality. Then you start understanding all the Sufi poetry and all such mystic poetry, which you never understood, before. You become very powerful, but this is the power of love. Which doesn’t, oppress; Which cares and which loves. Another power, that you have, because you become collectively conscious. Our learned professor, just now told you, that we are not different, we are ‘one’. it’s a fact. But, you have to 'become'. Once you 'become', then you know, you are all 'one'. In everybody’s heart, this divinity shines. But it has to be brought, this part of the divine has to be brought into your attention. And when it happens, your attention becomes enlightened. Paying attention to anybody, you can help. Paying attention to any country, you can help. Your attention is so powerful, that it can cross thousands and thousands of miles. The attention controls the Sun and the Moon. You will be amazed, how powerful you have become. Now, if it’s very very cold, it will become hot, tolerably hot. And if it is intolerably hot, with your presence, it will become mild. In the presence of such a person, these flowers though they are cut out, they start blowing, though they are cut off. The vitality, which we call as the life vitality, you become the source of that. But, ‘Becoming’ is the point. I must say Russia, is a very special country. I know you have gone through lots of problems. But that has really made pure gold out of you. And the people here, only the scientist of this country are so open headed. Nowhere in the world, I’ve found so many scientists with such an open head. Of course, we have some people in other countries. But so many we have here, who are scientist, who are dealing with the material science and suddenly become spiritual scientists. With this collective consciousness, you can feel the centres of others, as well. You can of course feel you own centres through self-knowledge and if you, somehow, know, how to cure yourself, you can cure others. Sitting down here, you will know how to cure others. You will know about the people who had a past, who are. ‘no more’, also about them, you will know on your fingertips. You will not bother as to what dress they are making, how they look, but what are there centre is like. Don’t have to go into details about it, you don't have to study like a science study. I must say I have also read science and medical science because I knew I'll have to talk to a scientist as well as to doctors. And it has worked here in this great country of yours, I really tell you how people, who are so well educated, so highly placed in life are so humble, to accept this knowledge. For this you don’t have to pay. Is a natural process of your evolution. You were an ordinary human being but now you have become a spiritual human being. This will change your life completely. You will be peaceful and you will be witnessing the whole thing, like a drama. Also, the greatest thing happens to you, that, you become joyous. You are full of joy. Joy is singular, it’s not happiness or unhappiness, it’s just Joy. You don’t criticise, you don’t find faults with others. But you enjoy everything, even you laugh at the absurdities and ridiculousness. Now, if you see in these modern times; when you are born, people have become, some of them have become, worse than animals. They do things which even, animals don’t do. Also, there are other problems like drugs and this and that. But by telling them, not to do, they will never accept on the mental level. But after self-hood, you become so dignified and you know this is all so ridiculous. In England, overnight the young people gave up drugs. Overnight, people changed. So this is the time of this transition, of this resurrection. For which you don’t have to do anything outside. It’s only in your own body, it will work. It’s your ‘right’ to have it. And as this flower has a right to flower and give fragrance, in the same way, you have ‘right to be enlightened’. No obligation of mine. I just love. Especially Russia, I really love you very much. Because you are so lovable, people. That, you respect me also as Mother, I love you like my children. I don’t know, how to explain a Mother having millions of children. But it is so. And it is so energy-giving to me as well as to you. There is a record of love. I don’t have to quarrel with you, argue with you or to shout at you, it just works. You don’t know this divine power it's such a powerful thing. How it manages things. How it manipulates everything, for your good. Everything negative drops out. Anything that is aggressive disappears. And your life becomes very smooth and beautiful. You become a satisfied soul. I think Russians are quite satisfied, compare to other people. Such a beautiful human being you become, that you respect yourself and you respect others. A new civilization has to come up and it’s working out more in your country. Russians, people use to be frightened of them. Now the situation is very different. Russians are now loved by everyone. Because, there are so many Sahaja yogis in Russia, who are very deep and mature. Not so many in other countries. They have so many [UNCLEAR] I ‘m very thankful to you and to all of you for inviting me to this conference so that I could talk to you and to people, who are of science. Like a blind man whose eyes opened, he sees everything for reality. In the same way, you see everything all types of miracles as reality. And this is going to happen to you all tonight and also later. Thank you very much. I think I should give Realization. Talking is talking only. You have to have proof of what I’ve said, but if you have come here to criticise and is your mind in the opposite direction, it will be difficult. So tell your mind, to keep quiet. All of them have got it already. Now, I have to make one humble request, that please take out your shoes, if possible. Because this mother earth helps us a lot. Put Both your hands towards me like this and both the feet apart from each other. Just now, don’t ask, why. I’ll tell you later on. Only have pure desire in your mind, that you should get your enlightenment. Little higher –{for hands’} Now you can close your eye and ask a question in your mind not loudly. Mother am’I a Spirit? – Three times. Now see, if you are feeling a cool or a hot like vibrations on your fingertips. Now, raise your left hand on top of your fontanel bone area, it was a soft bone in your childhood and bent your head. Don't touch with your hand just keep aloof and move it up and down and see for yourself, if there is cool-breeze or a hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area? Now please have the left hand towards me and bent your head again and see if there is a cool or hot breeze coming out. Now put both the hands towards me, again and open your eye. Put both your hands up and ask a question; any one of these three questions, you ask three times, Anyone -“Mother is this the cool-breeze of the Holy Ghost ?” Second One - “Mother is this the all-pervading power of divine love ?” Third One – “Mother is this the ‘Paramchaitnaya'? Ask one of them, three times, in your heart.” Put your head Up and ask this question. Now please take down your hands. All those who have felt, cool or hot breeze on their fingertips or on their palms or out of their fontanel bone area, please raise both your hands. I said both of your hands. I said this is what it is- Russians. I bow to you all. You are my own, my own children. May God bless you. Thank You. Sahaja yogi- Everybody has it. Shri Mataji-All of them. Sahaja yogi - Sahastra open. Shri Mataji - You saw? Sahaja yogi -Sahastra open of all. Shri Mataji -You saw it? Sahaja yogi -Miracle photo. Shri Mataji -Show them. Shri Mataji - Where will you show, where is the screen to show. You show them, I’ve seen them all. This is the proof of there is all-pervading power. I don't do anything. It is this all-pervading power, is trying to prove ‘Me’. Sahaja Yogi- I want to thank Shri Mataji, The storm of applause which has last sounded, gives me the opportunity, to thank Shri Mataji for the interesting and rich rapport, which will remain in our hearts. I’m a physicist, that’s why I had like to start my presentation with the words, which were pronounced about physicists and specialist in natural science. While discussing the idea of ‘The Truth’, it was said that every scientist is searching the truth in his subject - a physicist in physics, a chemist in chemistry. From this point of view me and my colleague, co-author of this report, Mr Shipov are wrong physicists. We never were searching the truth either in physics or in natural sciences in general. We were looking for the knowledge in Physics, realizing that the Truth is much higher than physics and natural science. All this work is based on fundamental, the work which has been carried out for the last 20 years is based on the fundamental ideas, different from the cores of so-called this, phenomenological theories, which starts not from nature, but from the starting presumption, which adequacy cannot be proven, as a rule. In the works of my colleagues, Mr Shipov, it was shown that apart from the four obvious interactions in nature, there exists one more known to mankind for a long long time. Besides strong interaction – within the atomic nucleus, strong interaction. Besides weak interaction which defined electronic disintegration of the nucleus, apart from electromagnetic and gravitational interactions, which are known to us from the school. There is one more interaction, one more field which is called ‘Torsion’. The theory of electromagnetism was started with simple tests, when in ancient Greece they were taking an amber comb, using it to comb hair and drawing a bit of fluff. This experiment defines the age of electromagnetism. Ancient Chinese manuscripts were found and they are dated the 6 -7 years before B.C. though the people with the [UNCLEAR] looking for water. Yes, looking for water. 6-7 years Before Christ. At that time the humanity practically used the torsion fields, though the term itself appeared only in 1922, due to the works by Cartane. It was shown in these works that all the scientific information about the structure of the world can be represented in a very simple scheme, it's known from the school. Everybody knows, Hard substances, liquid and gases. In the middle of the century, we found that the elementary particles of plasma. And after that in the thirties, it was the work by Einstein Physical vacuum Particle or plasma Gases Liquids Hydro substances The works performed by Mr. Shipov proves, that there is a higher level of matter organization, which got the name of primary torsion fields. It appeared that from modern science, the higher levels cannot be described, using the language of formulas. And all of them were united in a general group, called ‘’Absolute Nothing’, the matter which gives birth to everything and absorbs everything. We could call this ‘Absolute Everything’. Now I would like you to remember the table of Alice Bailey, which gives the structure of different planes. Many remember that Bailey ‘s table contains 7 planes. The lowest level is the Physical plane, which consists of 7 sub-planes in its turn. I’d like to draw your attention to the fact, that three sub-planes fully coincide with what you can see here. At that time science already knew hard substances, liquids and gases. And further on, there are four sub-planes, which were not discovered, they are called by her the fourth Ether, the third ether, the second and first ether. Now we can state that science can define these ethers, that is to show what it is, at least some of them. The fourth ether is, what we called here ‘plasma’ (see the table). The third ether by A Bailey is the physical vacuum. The second ether by A Bailey is the primary torsion fields in these structures, the fields which are connected with consciousness. Before I start speaking about first and second ether, I had like to say something different. It is not by chance that I have just mentioned that we were never looking for the ‘Truth’ in physics. We understood, that, when we have to get some new knowledge from physics and that knowledge is limited. And secondly, we have to show, the place of our new knowledge. And here we say, that the modern science was able to disclose the content of the fourth, third and second ether. But the modern science cannot explain what is the first and second ether and all the planes of higher level. We have all the ground to believe that the modern mathematical apparatus has exhausted its capacity, moreover, new non-binary logic is needed for new discoveries. And many scientists' think that all their discoveries are their own creation. More than five years ago, Roger Penrose, an English physicists theorist published a book. As far as I know, he was not familiar with esoterics. He was only dealing with mathematics. He published the book ‘ New mentality of the superior'. In this book, he analysed the knowledge - where new knowledge is coming from. He made his analysis based on strict modern mathematics and physics. The conclusion he made was quite unbelievable for such a person, as he was. He said, that, we can not understand the proof of theorems and laws, do we have the capacity to understand where the new knowledge comes from? Only in that case, if we assume that somewhere there exists the data bank, which accumulates all the information in full volume on everything; and it is only unclear, as it was put by Penrose; " where from and how this knowledge comes to the minds of scientist?”. I think that any esoteric could explain how it works?. As a result, we have to agree, that if a scientist received an idea, it means that he was allowed to get his knowledge. And if some scientific ideas come across any difficulties, it only means that either it will not be possible to understand this knowledge now, or that this is not the right time for this knowledge, it’s too early. One can say that in the framework of the theory of physical vacuum, many results are not simply scientific but technically concrete. Not only theoretically, but practically it was comprehended that torsion field play an important role in the consciousness. One could tell about this for a long time, but I had like to give only one example. There is a device, which has the size of two cigarette boxes, there is a metal furnace for melting the metal. Moreover, this furnace is grounded and the electromagnetic signal cannot go inside the furnace. I switch on this box and after the melting is over, we found out that in this volume the structure of metal has changed. I couldn’t achieve such a result by electromagnetic waves, even if it was not screened. Moreover, I changed the structure of metal 100 kg in volume, bearing a tool which consumes less electricity than a lamp of a pocket flashlight. This is not an experiment, this is a technological patent. Then I invite to the same laboratory, a person with an open channel or an open vision. He sees this experiment and he understands what this device radiates and what happens with the metal, when it is affected by this device. Then the person is offered to do the same, the way he has seen it. After this is done, the following result is clear, the metal has changed its structure, but the mechanical characteristics have improved by 10-12 %, then in the case with the device. This is a real example of what can be achieved in physics with the help of subtle energies, which are called in physics ‘torsion fields’ both by a device or by a human being. Now I had like to tell you about one more result, very important. Even before the war, it was discovered, when nobody pays attention than when one takes a picture, no matter what or whose, torsion fields or subtle energies cause changes of the structure of the emulsion. And it is possible to say exactly what is changing there. They changing the spinning structure of the film emulsion. And it doesn't affect the visible image. Secondly, in our country, they found 6 researchers who could get different images working with the same equipment, different from other people. To understand And it is possible, to understand those structures in the shape of balls, lines and other complicated structural formations are photo registration of the torsion field. But there were some strange situations, if a person has as well developed vision or open channel, then while taking pictures, some field structures appear on the photo. And if a film made by an ordinary person on the same equipment, who doesn’t have all these qualities, then the picture doesn’t show these torsion field structures. So in no time, we could guess that a well-known technical principle is working here. When a picture is shooting by a person with corresponding qualities, then in the course of picture taking the emulsion will absorb both; the conventional field and a torsion field from the source of photo object. And if simultaneously with this, the support signal as engineers say, coming from this person is also absorbed, then visualization is taking place. The best result was achieved by, Mr.Karpov more than ten years ago in our country. This is the image of a person in the course of an active meditation. You see that there exists a brightly expressed global structure of the torsion field – subtle energies. There are three streams one of them is coming from the person himself and two parallel streams. In another condition, we can see two spiral structure, left and right very similar over the actively working apparatus. Another picture-activity in nature [in the video]. Active work in the open, during the work on the channels, we see, what kind of a structure appears over his head. This is the photo of the group of people who are in the process of a group meditation and we can see that a group of people is creating a collective field which is vividly expressed and is a collectively explained and now I liked to show something unique in my mind. Shri Mataji in the process of work. Here you can see structures which were never ever observed. It is probably that, they reflect primary torsion fields. One more citation –Another picture Shri Mataji in the process of work. I had like to say the following Maybe the level of subtle vibration so high that it is impossible to reflect the structure of this energy formation, on the level of the substance of all the matter and I had like to say subtle vibrations were so high that it is impossible and lastly I’m very sorry that the projector cannot show all six pictures in succession. I’ll change them. In the beginning of the work all looks like an ordinary picture. Second picture -The second picture shows the changes, in the field situation present here. The marking point is the bench and its stripes. The changes of the spinning structure of space is so strong that if it had not been for the bench then it would have been very difficult to identify with all the rest on the picture. Third Picture - It is more deeper penetration. The changes of the structure of space is so strong and so deep that, we can see that it changes at the space itself, as collective fields of the source, which are connected with the people, who are standing behind Shri Mataji. Fourth Photo - The changes in the space structure, deep structure in the next phase is even stronger. You can’t see the bench itself, but you can identify the centre and if you look hard, you will see a vivid face. There is a bright image. I think it would be nice to ask Shri Mataji whose face it is. Whether this is the image of the participants of the meditation or this is the projection of super-plane? Fifth Photo - The last stage of work. Here you can see that the space is fully structured. Shri Mataji is saying, that, “the space is transformed by this force.” Presenter says that that the space is transformed with the help of subtle energies-Torsion fields. by the This structural order is reflecting the high level of spirituality, the high potential of her love. But we have to say that the term Torsion field needs some explanation. The so-called subtle plane doesn't contain any energy. All the interactions and effect on the subtle plane level is performed by information. But the outcome of the information influence maybe the changes in the energy state of the object of interaction One more fact is important there is no limit to the diversity of the structural transformations of space. I don’t say think our collective fantasy will be enough to see, ‘ What structure cannot be realised’; any structure can be realized. This is another rich structure which is different from everything we have just seen, as an illustration of the diversity which is impossible here. This is principally a different plane, which doesn’t coincide with the two previous ones. This is another image. In background, Shri Mataji says, this is the other way round “the other image was of sitting in the heart of the universe.” As you can see, this is a very rich structure and you can see not only on the central part with a lotus formation, but there are a lot of field streams which can be identified individually. If we could have more time, then the circle of this kind of information could be enlarged significantly. There is a big library of this kind of pictures. Apart from the pictures you have seen today, there are images which show the fields coming from the earth itself. In background, Shari Mataji is saying, “this is nothing but vibrations.” And of course all the method used here, cannot fix all the variants, significant information from all the on subtle vibrations of earth. You can usually read about the new pathogen relation in literature. But in reality, there are up to ten different in their nature-radiations which differ by physical characteristics. There could be different types of torsion radiations, one has to think of different regimes of radiations. Some of them have been worked out and are already been used. [Thank You and praise by Sahaja-yogis. In the end, Shri Mataji signs some books for the scientist and physicist and guest. She received a gift of Mother Mary with Christ. And the conference ended with a song about Russia.]

6/11/1998

http://amruta.org/?p=7258

Russia is a great country of Spirituality

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Public Program. Moscow (Russia), 11 June 1998. I bow to all the seekers of truth .I know that you are not only the seekers of truth but you have found the truth.so many of you.And your life is fill with the light of the divine .Of Course there are some people who have come for the first time . but they also can have the lights very soon .Russia is a great country of spirituality. I found it long long time before i started sahaja yoga here .People are very simple hearted and they understand the value of love .They did not know about god or different types of religions that existed.I think it was good .because they were not conditioned .they are like a clean slate .while in all other countries people are very conditioned .Also in india, they have fixed ideas in their heads they are not open minded . And the most surprising thing in this country is that the scientist have reached a very great height of. They instead of going through analysis in separate and separate areas they have entered into themselves to find out what is consciousness. While this is not done in any country [unclear] for eg America is so advance but outward you can’t talk to them of spirituality.To them spirituality is nothing but spirit ,means either it is the dead body spirit or drinking . so that is what is there spiritual life.but somehow i don’t know how in moscow there are people who introspect them perhaps that they know that there is something higher beyond the mind beyond this physical being.Even a great scientist like einstein has said that i was so tired finding out about relativity and i was absolutely [unclear text] out .he couldn’t discover anything about this theory and even he was so tired that sitting in the garden playing with the soap bubble like a little boy.and suddenly he said i don’t know from where i got the theory of relativity.Everything drown upon him ,all the great scientist have said that they get it something from outside not there own .Now ,spirituality has reached that state in this country especially that we can prove it- its the science .Its a reality.So far [unclear he has said ] those who are spiritual believes in something and those who were scientist who live in a science,but now after the realisation after the actualisation ,of the spiritual experience it becomes reality .Once it becomes a reality it becomes a science ,that is what you are going to experience tonight.You are going to experience the truth about yourself .You are going to know what are you ..that is your own truth ….your self knowledge .for eg -a person gets a disease he doesn’t know anything in the beginning.he becomes reunetic he doesn’t know how it start. Any complication that he get is when it's over developed and beyond but he doesn't know from where he gets because he has no self knowledge.Now this is here in our being already being explained to youThat you should not believe me .We don’t need blind faith.you have to experience it .you have to see with in your self if this enters into this or not. because these centres scatter for your physical ,mental ,emotional and spiritual being .now we say there is a bone, is a triangular bone which we call as sacrum that means that the greeks knew that there it is a sacred bone .sacred because it has a dormant energy in it,which has to rise ,and pierce through your fontanel bone area ,which is the actualisation of baptism which is not someone [unclear ]...but it actually happens .which power become the all pervading power of divine love . Again you should not believe it.You see these beautiful flowers here,the whole [] full of flower it is .Who created the flowers ?Who runs your heart ?The doctors will say its autonomous nervous system .but you ask who is this auto?They can’t ask .This auto is your self in the heart,is the spirit in your heart when this kundalini rises ,she connects you to the all pervading power ,which has created all living things .This energy becomes one and go round with the subtle energy which does all the subtle works .It all exists ,It all works ,it understands ,it knows ,it sees ,above all it loves you.Loves you fully .Cares for you.And see remarkable things that in this country of shiva its working very fast .I don’t know what are the blessings for you .special blessings I should say in Moscow or in your country itself its working in such a big way …may be you people are very genuine ,You are not hypocritical,may be you are introspective ,really you want love ,you want protection ,especially when there is so much mafia everywhere This mafia will die out very soon .It can not fight with divine .Divine is very powerful If don’t listen to the divine it creates problems ;very interesting problems and that is how you all are protected .Now when this kundalini rises ,she passes through the various centers ,she enlightens them and integrates them .There is no more conflicts in the mind .Now you are in your being .Whatever way your mind ,your heart ,your liver [unclear ] the first thing that happen is that physically you are cleared .I must tell you ,first time when I came to Moscow,half of the people were sick ,children were sick ,now I don’t find it? Very few of them are sick, one or two here and there that too some sort of physical ,and not mental also. You will be amazed to know that in America 65% people ,Because they are so mad after nonsensical things.It's impossible to talk to them of something higher something very subtle .so from India lots of false guru were exported nicely .they are even worse then [unclear ].and they looted that country completely .Americans itself has created such horrible things.[unclear]But I am sure after seeing you they will come up because they believe in competition .and once they compete with you I am sure they will come to a subtle understanding .Of Course now one must know that you can be connected to this all pervading power which is very powerful.It is not the power that dominates or wants to take the land of other countries or the money .Its not the power of greed and lust ,But it’s the pure power of divine love .So its called as Mothers power like a mother like a matrishta .so we have now here an opportunity to achieve that state .so first thing your health improves ,so many people have cured from all incurable diseases.without down payment .without any money.because when it happens in your hands you start feeling the cool breeze of holy ghost .That means your five fingers six and seven centers are there .Now your right hand is for your physical and mental being and your left hand for the emotional being.So you know what centers are catching .There could be little burning some sort of sweating ,could be hot breeze .You can make out about the person from these vibratory awareness.and you can judge it a person without telling him but once you know about that person you also know about your self.Also you know how to cure your centers and if you know how to cure your centers you can cure the centers of others also.Because you have developed a new dimension in yourself in your awareness which is called collective consciousness .This is what a great philosopher called [unclear Youg ]have tell that you develop a collective consciousness That’s not living but you go beyond your mind .The other day one journalist asked me ,that you do everything from your mind then how can you get rid of your mind .I told him that this mind is a myth because if the mind was alright then how could you have Hitler .This mind can tell you all kinds of things and you can do all kinds of things ,and what will you get out of it .so this mind is not dependable ,the rationality is not the vehicle to understand and discriminate .So you have to go beyond your mind into the realm of reality .Because with this mind we live in the past we doesn’t exist ,we finish,or we live in future we don't exist anyway .So what is the ultimate is the present .Present is the reality.But if I tell you to be in the present you can not be .you can not become the one with the blessed ,because the mind goes on left right left right .as a result you become extremely peaceful with in …with this enlightenment ,you attention becomes enlightened and it understand ,it can feel, the another person ,it can feel everything the whole nature ,becomes one with you .sun moon …it becomes your own .because you reached a higher state of enlightenment .The second thing that happens to you ,that you becomes extremely peaceful.you don’t react .you do not react at all . but you become like a witness.the whole thing looks like a drama .And they told me that we start a program at seven I just smiled .I knew we can not Its very hard I said alright alright ,you can start at seven .now it has become so pleasant that we don’t have to worry as to the sun is in the shelter now .and so the moon will also come .Our situation is very good now that we have to achieve the blessings of the divine which gives you the light within .I mean so many sahaja yogis have told me that without sahaja yoga mother the life is so miserableThey are all enjoying each other .They are all helping each other .Nobody is jealous.No one criticizes .Ofcourse we might have one or two here and there but they are very few . so this collectivity that we have is such a power behind us .everything happens for our good.eg – we didn’t get the hall .In my heart I was very happy I wanted an open space.Open space is so good because the all pervading power is here all over not so much inside the hall.In india we have all programs openly and it works much faster because we are in contact .Sitting on the ground itself is very great because [unclear].she gives you energy when you are asking for your self realisation .But last not the least that you reach the state of joy. Joy cannot be described .it does not have happiness or unhappiness .There is a joy in everything .Everything that you see everything that you find ,They told me the story of the mafia and I just laughed .They are so stupid They can't fight the divine .We have lots of mafia when I went to Italy ,and I got the house at the top of the mountain ,and they said that Mother there is such a lot of mafia they will loot you out and everything will be finished .But I went there and all the mafia people ran away they came to Russia .Now from Russia I think there is a transform ,for eg at [unclear]a head of mafia came to see me ,he wanted his realization .and he got it .so it will happen everywhere Because everybody wants peace and joy .whats the use of getting money gives you no peace it should give you no joy .But also you prosper ,and you don’t pay so much attention to money.Money touches your feet .After All greatest thing is the joy .People believe that by getting money you will get the joy but you don’t .Money is a headache .but if it is used for your spiritual satisfaction it’s a blessing .I am so happy to come in Russia now I am seventy five years of age and my doctor has prohibited me to travel ,but I said Russia I will go in any way .so he said why Russia ,I said I have my thousands of children there very beautiful childrens And when the Russians went to America they were amazed and said mother the American sahaja yogis are not sahaja yogis …they are not as pure as such of Russia .even Romania is good Bulgaria is good In no way you should think that you are under developed.All this developed nations are good for nothing people,compared to you .so respect yourself as Russians .and you can get your realisation at no time ,I know .so now, you will have a session of raising the kundalini and I know you people have questions . So please ask your mind to keep quiet for awhile . And then you after realization go home and write down your questions. Maybe you wouldn’t be left with any questions .So just now you must have your pure desire ,pure desire to have your self realization that’s all.Normally people are standing ,I can't work out but I will try today.All those who can sit down please get seated .You need not see me .there is no…but mother earth helps .only thing if you wearing shoes ,please take out your shoes ,and put the both hands if you re sitting on the chairs,away.Now you have to sit comfortably and put both the hands before me .put your left hand on your top of the fontanel bone area .Little above .dont touch your head ..now put your left hand towards me and put your right hand at the top of the fontanel bone area .And once more …right hand towards me and the left hand towards me is there cool breeze coming out of your own fontanel bone area .Now please put your both hands before me and don’t think ,alrightNow you can raise both hand in the sky .;Push back your head and ask the question 3 times :Mother is it the cool breeze of holy ghost .Or is this the cool breeze of the divine love .Or in Sanskrit Is it the param ChaitanyaNow put down your hands .see how much breeze is doing between us .see the silence outside .and you are feeling the coolbreeze .all those who have felt the cool breeze on their finger on their palm or out f their fontanel bone area please rise both your hands ….that ‘s RussiaIf you are not sure you ask your neighbor, to feel on your head so with this you will give up that is destructive .You will give up smoking drinking and …I didn’t tell you anything …It will automatically happen because when u walk in the light of the spirit you can see what is darkness. Thank you very much.

Public Program. Moscow (Russia), 11 June 1998. I bow to all the seekers of truth .I know that you are not only the seekers of truth but you have found the truth.so many of you.And your life is fill with the light of the divine .Of Course there are some people who have come for the first time . but they also can have the lights very soon .Russia is a great country of spirituality. I found it long long time before i started sahaja yoga here .People are very simple hearted and they understand the value of love .They did not know about god or different types of religions that existed.I think it was good .because they were not conditioned .they are like a clean slate .while in all other countries people are very conditioned .Also in india, they have fixed ideas in their heads they are not open minded . And the most surprising thing in this country is that the scientist have reached a very great height of. They instead of going through analysis in separate and separate areas they have entered into themselves to find out what is consciousness. While this is not done in any country [unclear] for eg America is so advance but outward you can’t talk to them of spirituality.To them spirituality is nothing but spirit ,means either it is the dead body spirit or drinking . so that is what is there spiritual life.but somehow i don’t know how in moscow there are people who introspect them perhaps that they know that there is something higher beyond the mind beyond this physical being.Even a great scientist like einstein has said that i was so tired finding out about relativity and i was absolutely [unclear text] out .he couldn’t discover anything about this theory and even he was so tired that sitting in the garden playing with the soap bubble like a little boy.and suddenly he said i don’t know from where i got the theory of relativity.Everything drown upon him ,all the great scientist have said that they get it something from outside not there own .Now ,spirituality has reached that state in this country especially that we can prove it- its the science .Its a reality.So far [unclear he has said ] those who are spiritual believes in something and those who were scientist who live in a science,but now after the realisation after the actualisation ,of the spiritual experience it becomes reality .Once it becomes a reality it becomes a science ,that is what you are going to experience tonight.You are going to experience the truth about yourself .You are going to know what are you ..that is your own truth ….your self knowledge .for eg -a person gets a disease he doesn’t know anything in the beginning.he becomes reunetic he doesn’t know how it start. Any complication that he get is when it's over developed and beyond but he doesn't know from where he gets because he has no self knowledge.Now this is here in our being already being explained to youThat you should not believe me .We don’t need blind faith.you have to experience it .you have to see with in your self if this enters into this or not. because these centres scatter for your physical ,mental ,emotional and spiritual being .now we say there is a bone, is a triangular bone which we call as sacrum that means that the greeks knew that there it is a sacred bone .sacred because it has a dormant energy in it,which has to rise ,and pierce through your fontanel bone area ,which is the actualisation of baptism which is not someone [unclear ]...but it actually happens .which power become the all pervading power of divine love . Again you should not believe it.You see these beautiful flowers here,the whole [] full of flower it is .Who created the flowers ?Who runs your heart ?The doctors will say its autonomous nervous system .but you ask who is this auto?They can’t ask .This auto is your self in the heart,is the spirit in your heart when this kundalini rises ,she connects you to the all pervading power ,which has created all living things .This energy becomes one and go round with the subtle energy which does all the subtle works .It all exists ,It all works ,it understands ,it knows ,it sees ,above all it loves you.Loves you fully .Cares for you.And see remarkable things that in this country of shiva its working very fast .I don’t know what are the blessings for you .special blessings I should say in Moscow or in your country itself its working in such a big way …may be you people are very genuine ,You are not hypocritical,may be you are introspective ,really you want love ,you want protection ,especially when there is so much mafia everywhere This mafia will die out very soon .It can not fight with divine .Divine is very powerful If don’t listen to the divine it creates problems ;very interesting problems and that is how you all are protected .Now when this kundalini rises ,she passes through the various centers ,she enlightens them and integrates them .There is no more conflicts in the mind .Now you are in your being .Whatever way your mind ,your heart ,your liver [unclear ] the first thing that happen is that physically you are cleared .I must tell you ,first time when I came to Moscow,half of the people were sick ,children were sick ,now I don’t find it? Very few of them are sick, one or two here and there that too some sort of physical ,and not mental also. You will be amazed to know that in America 65% people ,Because they are so mad after nonsensical things.It's impossible to talk to them of something higher something very subtle .so from India lots of false guru were exported nicely .they are even worse then [unclear ].and they looted that country completely .Americans itself has created such horrible things.[unclear]But I am sure after seeing you they will come up because they believe in competition .and once they compete with you I am sure they will come to a subtle understanding .Of Course now one must know that you can be connected to this all pervading power which is very powerful.It is not the power that dominates or wants to take the land of other countries or the money .Its not the power of greed and lust ,But it’s the pure power of divine love .So its called as Mothers power like a mother like a matrishta .so we have now here an opportunity to achieve that state .so first thing your health improves ,so many people have cured from all incurable diseases.without down payment .without any money.because when it happens in your hands you start feeling the cool breeze of holy ghost .That means your five fingers six and seven centers are there .Now your right hand is for your physical and mental being and your left hand for the emotional being.So you know what centers are catching .There could be little burning some sort of sweating ,could be hot breeze .You can make out about the person from these vibratory awareness.and you can judge it a person without telling him but once you know about that person you also know about your self.Also you know how to cure your centers and if you know how to cure your centers you can cure the centers of others also.Because you have developed a new dimension in yourself in your awareness which is called collective consciousness .This is what a great philosopher called [unclear Youg ]have tell that you develop a collective consciousness That’s not living but you go beyond your mind .The other day one journalist asked me ,that you do everything from your mind then how can you get rid of your mind .I told him that this mind is a myth because if the mind was alright then how could you have Hitler .This mind can tell you all kinds of things and you can do all kinds of things ,and what will you get out of it .so this mind is not dependable ,the rationality is not the vehicle to understand and discriminate .So you have to go beyond your mind into the realm of reality .Because with this mind we live in the past we doesn’t exist ,we finish,or we live in future we don't exist anyway .So what is the ultimate is the present .Present is the reality.But if I tell you to be in the present you can not be .you can not become the one with the blessed ,because the mind goes on left right left right .as a result you become extremely peaceful with in …with this enlightenment ,you attention becomes enlightened and it understand ,it can feel, the another person ,it can feel everything the whole nature ,becomes one with you .sun moon …it becomes your own .because you reached a higher state of enlightenment .The second thing that happens to you ,that you becomes extremely peaceful.you don’t react .you do not react at all . but you become like a witness.the whole thing looks like a drama .And they told me that we start a program at seven I just smiled .I knew we can not Its very hard I said alright alright ,you can start at seven .now it has become so pleasant that we don’t have to worry as to the sun is in the shelter now .and so the moon will also come .Our situation is very good now that we have to achieve the blessings of the divine which gives you the light within .I mean so many sahaja yogis have told me that without sahaja yoga mother the life is so miserableThey are all enjoying each other .They are all helping each other .Nobody is jealous.No one criticizes .Ofcourse we might have one or two here and there but they are very few . so this collectivity that we have is such a power behind us .everything happens for our good.eg – we didn’t get the hall .In my heart I was very happy I wanted an open space.Open space is so good because the all pervading power is here all over not so much inside the hall.In india we have all programs openly and it works much faster because we are in contact .Sitting on the ground itself is very great because [unclear].she gives you energy when you are asking for your self realisation .But last not the least that you reach the state of joy. Joy cannot be described .it does not have happiness or unhappiness .There is a joy in everything .Everything that you see everything that you find ,They told me the story of the mafia and I just laughed .They are so stupid They can't fight the divine .We have lots of mafia when I went to Italy ,and I got the house at the top of the mountain ,and they said that Mother there is such a lot of mafia they will loot you out and everything will be finished .But I went there and all the mafia people ran away they came to Russia .Now from Russia I think there is a transform ,for eg at [unclear]a head of mafia came to see me ,he wanted his realization .and he got it .so it will happen everywhere Because everybody wants peace and joy .whats the use of getting money gives you no peace it should give you no joy .But also you prosper ,and you don’t pay so much attention to money.Money touches your feet .After All greatest thing is the joy .People believe that by getting money you will get the joy but you don’t .Money is a headache .but if it is used for your spiritual satisfaction it’s a blessing .I am so happy to come in Russia now I am seventy five years of age and my doctor has prohibited me to travel ,but I said Russia I will go in any way .so he said why Russia ,I said I have my thousands of children there very beautiful childrens And when the Russians went to America they were amazed and said mother the American sahaja yogis are not sahaja yogis …they are not as pure as such of Russia .even Romania is good Bulgaria is good In no way you should think that you are under developed.All this developed nations are good for nothing people,compared to you .so respect yourself as Russians .and you can get your realisation at no time ,I know .so now, you will have a session of raising the kundalini and I know you people have questions . So please ask your mind to keep quiet for awhile . And then you after realization go home and write down your questions. Maybe you wouldn’t be left with any questions .So just now you must have your pure desire ,pure desire to have your self realization that’s all.Normally people are standing ,I can't work out but I will try today.All those who can sit down please get seated .You need not see me .there is no…but mother earth helps .only thing if you wearing shoes ,please take out your shoes ,and put the both hands if you re sitting on the chairs,away.Now you have to sit comfortably and put both the hands before me .put your left hand on your top of the fontanel bone area .Little above .dont touch your head ..now put your left hand towards me and put your right hand at the top of the fontanel bone area .And once more …right hand towards me and the left hand towards me is there cool breeze coming out of your own fontanel bone area .Now please put your both hands before me and don’t think ,alrightNow you can raise both hand in the sky .;Push back your head and ask the question 3 times :Mother is it the cool breeze of holy ghost .Or is this the cool breeze of the divine love .Or in Sanskrit Is it the param ChaitanyaNow put down your hands .see how much breeze is doing between us .see the silence outside .and you are feeling the coolbreeze .all those who have felt the cool breeze on their finger on their palm or out f their fontanel bone area please rise both your hands ….that ‘s RussiaIf you are not sure you ask your neighbor, to feel on your head so with this you will give up that is destructive .You will give up smoking drinking and …I didn’t tell you anything …It will automatically happen because when u walk in the light of the spirit you can see what is darkness. Thank you very much.

6/21/1998

http://amruta.org/?p=1715

Adi Shakti Puja: You Must Develop Humility

Italy

Cabella Ligure

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Adi Shakti Puja. Cabella Ligure (Italy), 21 June 1998. In Russia the people, somehow, are very open-minded, not only that, the Scientists especially, are very open-minded and were suppressed very much. So they tried to find out the subtler things; not only finding out about chemicals or about some physical properties of the light, but, they wanted to go into the subtler side and they had found out already a great deal of knowledge about the auras – auras around the hands, auras around the body. They had done so much research and, it was accepted all over the world – their findings. Now this gentleman was a specialist, I think, because he’s a very well-known, a very very well-known person and he’s holding a very big position. He was saying that he has to run 150 organizations. Very humble and very nice person; and when he came out with this discovery, I was happy in a way, because scientifically, if it is proved, then nobody can challenge it. He has already written a book with all the algebraical complications of what he wanted to prove. He said there is a vacuum. Beyond the consciousness, there is vacuum; and in that vacuum only, you can know the reality and once all this becomes the reality, it is a science – and that’s how it is made into science. He showed so many of my photographs – especially the one where a lot of energy is coming out of my Sahasrara – when we were on a boat. So he said: “She is the source of all the cosmic energy” – and that’s what Adi Shakti is. She’s the one who creates everything. The whole atmosphere that we know of is very artificial but when you understand what She has done. The first thing She does is to – and in my book also, I have written down about it – but I would like to tell you – that her first, I should say, manifestation, is on the left hand side. That’s the Mahakali’s manifestation. So She comes on the Mahakali system, the left hand side. And that is where She created Ganesha. Shri Ganesha is created because he‘s purity, he’s innocence and auspisciousness. This had to be created before She created the Universe. So first thing She does is to create Shri Ganesha and She’s settled down. Then She goes up, of course in the body of the Virata, and then She goes round and goes up on the right hand side – in the other way and there She creates all the universes, as you call them, Bhuvanas [worlds]. One univers, there are 14 Bhuvanas, means, many, many universes make one Bhuvana. And She creates all these things on the right hand side. Then She goes up and then She descends down creating all the chakras – Adi chakras or the pitas.She comes down, makes all these pitas and then She settled as the Kundalini. But Adi Shakti is not fully the Kundalini, we can say, the Kundalini is a part of it. The rest of the work is much more than this. So, although we call it the residual energy, means after going through all this journey, then She comes round and She goes as Kundalini. Because of this Kundalini and the chakras, She creates an area, which we call as the chakras in the body. Now first She creates these chakras in the head – we call them the pitas of the chakras. And then She comes down and creates these chakras, which are in the body of the virata.Now, once this has happened, then She creates human beings. But not directly – through the evolutionary process, She goes through, and that’s how the evolution starts and then it starts developing from the minute, small little microscopic organisms in the water and then it starts evolving. So when She creates water, and She creates all the universes, She chooses this mother earth as the best place to play Her evolutionary process and there She makes this little microscopic thing. Of course I have written all about it and when my book will be released you can see that how first hydrogen, carbon and oxygen and all of these things were mixed up and how nitrogen comes into play and how a living process starts. All this I have done in another book that I am going to write now. I mean, I have mostly finished but there are some more chakras are to be dealt with.Now with this happening, you see, one thing is there, that whatever I write, now people won’t doubt, they will know it is a scientific fact and that’s what, whatever I say, is a fact. Now to believe in a Mother, Adi Shakti, was impossible. Especially, you’ll be amazed that Christian religion, somehow or another avoided the mentioning of the mother. Then the Islam, that also avoided the mentioning of the mother. This complete negation towards the mother. But only Indian philosophy had the mother and the Indians are actually shakti worshippers. So this is how it was kept up and brought to this position now. That people have got full idea as to mother principle that has worked out everything.On this Mother Principle, in India people are very sure that it’s the mother who does everything and thus we have in India many, we should say, many Swayambu’s, means things that are created of the mother earth. For example, you know in Maharastra we have got Mahakali’s place, Mahasaraswati, Mahalaxmi and also we have got a place for the Adi Shakti. Some people who have been to Nasik must have seen Chaturshringi [in Pune]. How many people have been to Chaturshringi out of you? It’s good.So this Chaturshringi [Saptashrungi in Nasik] represents the Adi Shakti.Adi Shakti which is the fourth dimension of this power which gives you the ascent and ultimately through Mahalaxmi channel only you get your Realization. All this is a process; all was created by the power of Adi Shakti.It’s a tremendous task, the previous ones were not difficult because there for nature to create, it was very easy. The Mother Earth is one with the Adi Shakti, the whole atmosphere is one with the Adi Shakti, all the elements are one with the Adi Shakti. So, she could create all that without any difficulties. But when human beings came, they got their freedom. That’s the only, I should say, species which fell into the maya of thinking and of having the ego in them. With this ego, a maya worked on them, I should say, and they forgot about the principle that created this universe – they took it for granted. They felt that this is their own right that they are there, this is their own achievement, and they are the owners of everything. This started working in their minds so much that they invaded other countries, they destroyed so many people and they never felt bad about it. All their lives they have been thinking about aggressing others, controlling others and doing all kinds of harmful things. But they never even thought or never did an introspection to see that what we are doing is very, very wrong and it should not be done. Because of the freedom they have; such a turmoil in this world and the people who were in charge of affairs, they were very, very cruel and extremely - had no feelings for the other people. And this happened so many times on this earth. Now Sahaja Yoga has started. Once Sahaja Yoga has started, we have Sahaja Yogis who are now receiving the blessings of the Adi Shakti directly. But still, I must say, amongst Sahaja Yogis also, we don't have people whom I would call as very well matured. They are Sahaja Yogis, some of them, are just because it's a fashion, maybe it should be better from their angle, or from their selfish angle, or whatever it is. It is a very wrong thing. If you are in Sahaja Yoga, you must know now you are responsible for the whole world. You are the only people who have come forward, you are the only people who have achieved something and then, at this juncture, you should behave in a manner that behoves a big saint or a realized soul.But sometimes you find they are behaving in such a manner, it is shocking sometimes. They have no respect for themselves or for others and their whole attitude is very funny. Some of them are money oriented, some of them are power oriented and those who are power oriented are more dangerous I think than money oriented. Because those who are power oriented try to bring such a bad name to Sahaja Yoga. They are very insulting, dominating and horrible people. Their whole attitude is to achieve power in Sahaja Yoga and they try all tricks to achieve that power. But for sometime they look alright, but after some time you'll find, they'll all disappear from the field of Sahaja Yoga. It's a very big cleansing process going on. You must understand that you have come in the field of very high consciousness where you are in contact with the divine. Now here if you behave like ordinary people who have no divinity within them, how long will you continue like this? So this is very important that you should try to meditate and evolve yourselves and become really very good Sahaja Yogis. In some places we are very very, lucky. In some countries you are very, very lucky. But in some countries, I find, that the people are just deaf and dumb. They can't understand Sahaja Yoga, for my programme they do come, and afterwards they just disappear. This one, I think is also, Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work, is not Sahaj. Must be something definitely wrong with the whole thing and that's why it's not working out the same way as it is working out in many places. So I have to tell you that all this is there, that Adi Shakti is there and all this has happened through Adi Shakti. But now the further work has to be done through you people because you are the channels, you are the ones who have to transform people. Now everybody should understand and know, how many people we have given realization to? We have to think about it. What have we done for Sahaja Yoga? Once I was travelling by plane and I met a lady who was sitting next to Me. She was so hot - I couldn't understand. Then she told Me she is a disciple of a guru - very proud of it and she started telling Me all about him and things. I was amazed, that, look at this woman, she hasn't got anything from him and she was just saying, “I have given so much money to him, I have done this thing to him and all those things”. But she had nothing and despite that she was talking to Me, a stranger person, about the guru. But in Sahaja Yoga, I have seen, people are rather shy. They don't want to talk about Sahaja Yoga openly to others. Which is a very wrong thing you are doing, because you are responsible for this. You have been given Realization, of course you were seeking, everything is alright, but all of you must try to give Realization to others. I must say that, somehow, men have been more dynamic in working it out. The women in Sahaja Yoga are not yet coming up to that level as they should. They have to be more sensible about it and they have to work it out. They can do it, but the only trouble is I think they have certain minor problems about which they are worried. Always I get letters from ladies saying this is wrong, that is wrong, complaining, all the time. I am so fed up of their letters now that I think that it is useless to read them now, also. So I have to tell you all, that it is important, that men, because they are dynamic - women should be much more. Because they are shakti and I am a woman. So I find that the men are more sort of active and dynamic about Sahaja Yoga and I don't know what is the reason why the women are not. They can transform so many people, they can do so much good to others, they can bring so much love and compassion, because this love and compassion is a quality of a mother, of a woman and if the women don't have that quality, it is useless to be a woman. All the time if you are busy about your useless things, like fashions or faces and all that, then the time is all wasted. You have a short time now, you got your realization and you must decide what have you done so far, what have you achieved so far. But I would say that also, in Sahaja Yoga, I have found, there are all kinds of funny ideas growing here. Like certain rituals they'll take up. Then they prescribe certain rituals, they'll talk about it - a kind of a power orientation is there. They want to oppress others and they want to take over and frighten people and behave in such a manner that, as if they are very good. Some of them start saying that “Mataji said so, this is Mataji's ideas”. By their own power-orientation they manufacture things and talk like that. But ask them “How many have you given realization?”. The first thing is, you must determine is, positively “how many you have given realization? It's just talking about others, criticizing others, talking about the defects of Sahaja Yoga - seeing in Sahaja Yoga, I would say, is still a very preliminary thing that has happened before and it should stop now. Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world it will be known about our work, we will not be challenged any more. But still we have to see for ourselves, that, if we have achieved this kind of a recognition, then we should be up to that, our capabilities should be up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you ask some Sahaja Yogis, especially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much about Sahaja Yoga. They don't know about chakras, they don't know anything about the deities, nothing they know, how can they be Sahaja Yogis? You have to know all about it. Only thing, that you don't realize that it's not outside that you are a Sahaja Yogi but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind of an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, how it helps you. Now supposing, if I'm the source of that energy, which you know very well I am, then you achieve, you also, a kind of a perfection about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It is a very important work you have to do, is to bring Sahaja Yogis in Sahaja Yoga. What I find that some people are very much still lagging behind and it is very surprising that they live in that country, they are part and parcel of that country and they are not bothered. Under these circumstances they'll be blamed, that why didn't you do, why didn't you find out the ways and methods of convincing at least your countrymen. So Sahaja Yoga, at the brink of growth, cannot grow only with one country, two countries, all the countries have to be brought into Sahaja Yoga. All the people that we could call into Sahaja Yoga, will be a very good idea. And then we have books to convince people, we have to talk to them about it. But what I find about Sahaja Yogis, that once they start spreading Sahaja Yoga also, their ego comes up and they think they are great Sahaja Yogis, they are great leaders, all these kind of stupid ideas walk into their heads, which is wrong. You have to just think in a very humble manner. The more you have, the more you become humble. Like a tree, when it is laden with fruit, it bends down. In the same way, you have to be very humble, but that humility is sometimes very difficult, because the culture of the west is not a humble culture, it is a culture of aggression, a culture of domination. So far they have been everywhere, because of domination they could go all over the world, they could achieve so many things - what have they achieved? - nothing. In their own countries, if you see, drug addiction. Why should people take to drugs so much? Then all kinds of sinful things they do, which I don't want to mention, but you know what they are doing. In India, which is a poorer country, one cannot even think of such things happening around you. So find out what's wrong, where and how you can correct these things, if you can help them. Actually now, as I told you, I am going to start some sort of organizations that will do good to human beings; but you all can join also. You can also start in your own countries, something like that. But first you have to get rid of your ego. You see, that, once it happens to you, then only your attention would be steady. And this ego is very simple for you because you worship Christ, and Christ is the one who was settled on the Agnya chakra. You all worship Christ, but that humility of Christ is not there, just the opposite of it. It has happened everywhere that, whatever was preached in the religion, people did just the opposite of it.For example Hindu religion, I would say Hindu philosophy, is that in everybody resides the spirit. Now, in everybody if there is spirit, then how can you have different cast systems? And how can you have somebody higher and lower? The other way round. Now Christ has said that you have to forgive, forgive everyone and you have to humble down, and that's what one finds that among Christians they don't know humility. They have no idea of humility. Men are like that, women are like that and the men and women then go on fighting, there's no question of anybody being humble, peaceful and all that. So it's very artificially that they are showing off that they are philanthropists and all that, but inside in their heart I don't find there is any love, there's any compassion, in the real sense of the word. So when we are dealing with reality, we have to know that we cannot just go on with things which are artificial, which are befooling others, but we have to really become that. Once you become that, when you are really like that, then only you have done the job for which you are born at this juncture of blossom times. Otherwise you could have been born earlier and could have been something different but you are specially born, so you realize your value, realize yourself what you are and try to understand to have self-respect and try to do things which are very important as Sahaja Yogis. Of course you are doing a job, you are doing other things, but you'll be amazed if you do work of Sahaja Yoga you'll find more time for everything. Once you start doing God's work, God does your work and that's how you will be amazed how you get so much time to do the right thing. Now it is for you to go back and introspect, see for yourself. Now the Adi Shakti herself has come - but I'm very simple. I'm very simple to look at. In my behaviour I'm very very humble and people take me for granted. I don't do anything, I don't want to punish you, I don't want to do anything. But you yourself get punished, you yourself become useless, if you do not look after yourself and grow yourself. This finding is so great, and this man had never known me before. He's very learned, but he's very humble and what he told me that - “just imagine I'm sitting before the creator of this world and still I'm very normal”. So I said “what should happen to you, what do you think?” He said “Mother, it is a big thing to realize that I am sitting before you, and that you are here”. I said “It's good that you don't feel my presence so oppressive, or so dominating, I'm very happy”. “No”, he said, “I just feel love, just feel the compassion, that's what it is”. We have to know that we should have just love and compassion. Compassion and love for ourselves in a way that we should not harm anybody's heart. To say something, to hurt someone is very sinful but some people enjoy that very much, they think they are very clever - it's not so. When you talk to someone, you must say something which is very soothing and good. Another thing is the temper of a person, the temper that the slightest thing here and there they get into tempers. Now this has to be told, this temper, that “you keep quite, I have nothing to do with you”, that is one thing. Then there are people who are very subtly, I should say, power-oriented, very subtle. They have tricks and trades by which they know how to control others. What are you going to gain out of it? What is your gain? By doing all these things, what will happen? In these worldly things, you might be a little bit popular, a little bit having a position or something, but what is it after all, that is not going to help you. What is going to help you the most is to make yourself a perfect channel for Sahaja Yoga. To be a perfect channel; in that you will be amazed how you'll be helped. So, I would say for you people, who are in the west I would say, you must develop humility. It's very important. I was surprised in Russia itself, the people are not only humble, but such dedication, such dedication - unbelievable. They don't even raise their eyes to me. I don't know how they got this idea. This is not after the discovery, but even before that. They were so nice and so humble and so full of love and even the children brought me small, small presents, you know - just to give me, so sweetly. This is something surprising how these people in Russia have achieved that capability to become, and I think in the west, Russia is a country which will achieve a very great height in spirituality and that means they will be the most powerful people. Let us see what you are doing in your own country and how you are going to work it out. You see there are so many things you can do, very easily, if you see for yourself that you are the instrument of the divine and then your temperament will change, the nature will change, you'll become a very very sweet person, a likeable person and everybody will think that this is a saint walking around. So that's all I have to say about this, whatever is the discovery, is not a discovery for me, but discovery for the whole world and I'm sure once it is established and is exposed to the whole world, things will change for you and for me also. MAY GOD BLESS YOU

Adi Shakti Puja. Cabella Ligure (Italy), 21 June 1998. In Russia the people, somehow, are very open-minded, not only that, the Scientists especially, are very open-minded and were suppressed very much. So they tried to find out the subtler things; not only finding out about chemicals or about some physical properties of the light, but, they wanted to go into the subtler side and they had found out already a great deal of knowledge about the auras – auras around the hands, auras around the body. They had done so much research and, it was accepted all over the world – their findings. Now this gentleman was a specialist, I think, because he’s a very well-known, a very very well-known person and he’s holding a very big position. He was saying that he has to run 150 organizations. Very humble and very nice person; and when he came out with this discovery, I was happy in a way, because scientifically, if it is proved, then nobody can challenge it. He has already written a book with all the algebraical complications of what he wanted to prove. He said there is a vacuum. Beyond the consciousness, there is vacuum; and in that vacuum only, you can know the reality and once all this becomes the reality, it is a science – and that’s how it is made into science. He showed so many of my photographs – especially the one where a lot of energy is coming out of my Sahasrara – when we were on a boat. So he said: “She is the source of all the cosmic energy” – and that’s what Adi Shakti is. She’s the one who creates everything. The whole atmosphere that we know of is very artificial but when you understand what She has done. The first thing She does is to – and in my book also, I have written down about it – but I would like to tell you – that her first, I should say, manifestation, is on the left hand side. That’s the Mahakali’s manifestation. So She comes on the Mahakali system, the left hand side. And that is where She created Ganesha. Shri Ganesha is created because he‘s purity, he’s innocence and auspisciousness. This had to be created before She created the Universe. So first thing She does is to create Shri Ganesha and She’s settled down. Then She goes up, of course in the body of the Virata, and then She goes round and goes up on the right hand side – in the other way and there She creates all the universes, as you call them, Bhuvanas [worlds]. One univers, there are 14 Bhuvanas, means, many, many universes make one Bhuvana. And She creates all these things on the right hand side. Then She goes up and then She descends down creating all the chakras – Adi chakras or the pitas.She comes down, makes all these pitas and then She settled as the Kundalini. But Adi Shakti is not fully the Kundalini, we can say, the Kundalini is a part of it. The rest of the work is much more than this. So, although we call it the residual energy, means after going through all this journey, then She comes round and She goes as Kundalini. Because of this Kundalini and the chakras, She creates an area, which we call as the chakras in the body. Now first She creates these chakras in the head – we call them the pitas of the chakras. And then She comes down and creates these chakras, which are in the body of the virata.Now, once this has happened, then She creates human beings. But not directly – through the evolutionary process, She goes through, and that’s how the evolution starts and then it starts developing from the minute, small little microscopic organisms in the water and then it starts evolving. So when She creates water, and She creates all the universes, She chooses this mother earth as the best place to play Her evolutionary process and there She makes this little microscopic thing. Of course I have written all about it and when my book will be released you can see that how first hydrogen, carbon and oxygen and all of these things were mixed up and how nitrogen comes into play and how a living process starts. All this I have done in another book that I am going to write now. I mean, I have mostly finished but there are some more chakras are to be dealt with.Now with this happening, you see, one thing is there, that whatever I write, now people won’t doubt, they will know it is a scientific fact and that’s what, whatever I say, is a fact. Now to believe in a Mother, Adi Shakti, was impossible. Especially, you’ll be amazed that Christian religion, somehow or another avoided the mentioning of the mother. Then the Islam, that also avoided the mentioning of the mother. This complete negation towards the mother. But only Indian philosophy had the mother and the Indians are actually shakti worshippers. So this is how it was kept up and brought to this position now. That people have got full idea as to mother principle that has worked out everything.On this Mother Principle, in India people are very sure that it’s the mother who does everything and thus we have in India many, we should say, many Swayambu’s, means things that are created of the mother earth. For example, you know in Maharastra we have got Mahakali’s place, Mahasaraswati, Mahalaxmi and also we have got a place for the Adi Shakti. Some people who have been to Nasik must have seen Chaturshringi [in Pune]. How many people have been to Chaturshringi out of you? It’s good.So this Chaturshringi [Saptashrungi in Nasik] represents the Adi Shakti.Adi Shakti which is the fourth dimension of this power which gives you the ascent and ultimately through Mahalaxmi channel only you get your Realization. All this is a process; all was created by the power of Adi Shakti.It’s a tremendous task, the previous ones were not difficult because there for nature to create, it was very easy. The Mother Earth is one with the Adi Shakti, the whole atmosphere is one with the Adi Shakti, all the elements are one with the Adi Shakti. So, she could create all that without any difficulties. But when human beings came, they got their freedom. That’s the only, I should say, species which fell into the maya of thinking and of having the ego in them. With this ego, a maya worked on them, I should say, and they forgot about the principle that created this universe – they took it for granted. They felt that this is their own right that they are there, this is their own achievement, and they are the owners of everything. This started working in their minds so much that they invaded other countries, they destroyed so many people and they never felt bad about it. All their lives they have been thinking about aggressing others, controlling others and doing all kinds of harmful things. But they never even thought or never did an introspection to see that what we are doing is very, very wrong and it should not be done. Because of the freedom they have; such a turmoil in this world and the people who were in charge of affairs, they were very, very cruel and extremely - had no feelings for the other people. And this happened so many times on this earth. Now Sahaja Yoga has started. Once Sahaja Yoga has started, we have Sahaja Yogis who are now receiving the blessings of the Adi Shakti directly. But still, I must say, amongst Sahaja Yogis also, we don't have people whom I would call as very well matured. They are Sahaja Yogis, some of them, are just because it's a fashion, maybe it should be better from their angle, or from their selfish angle, or whatever it is. It is a very wrong thing. If you are in Sahaja Yoga, you must know now you are responsible for the whole world. You are the only people who have come forward, you are the only people who have achieved something and then, at this juncture, you should behave in a manner that behoves a big saint or a realized soul.But sometimes you find they are behaving in such a manner, it is shocking sometimes. They have no respect for themselves or for others and their whole attitude is very funny. Some of them are money oriented, some of them are power oriented and those who are power oriented are more dangerous I think than money oriented. Because those who are power oriented try to bring such a bad name to Sahaja Yoga. They are very insulting, dominating and horrible people. Their whole attitude is to achieve power in Sahaja Yoga and they try all tricks to achieve that power. But for sometime they look alright, but after some time you'll find, they'll all disappear from the field of Sahaja Yoga. It's a very big cleansing process going on. You must understand that you have come in the field of very high consciousness where you are in contact with the divine. Now here if you behave like ordinary people who have no divinity within them, how long will you continue like this? So this is very important that you should try to meditate and evolve yourselves and become really very good Sahaja Yogis. In some places we are very very, lucky. In some countries you are very, very lucky. But in some countries, I find, that the people are just deaf and dumb. They can't understand Sahaja Yoga, for my programme they do come, and afterwards they just disappear. This one, I think is also, Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this. The way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work, is not Sahaj. Must be something definitely wrong with the whole thing and that's why it's not working out the same way as it is working out in many places. So I have to tell you that all this is there, that Adi Shakti is there and all this has happened through Adi Shakti. But now the further work has to be done through you people because you are the channels, you are the ones who have to transform people. Now everybody should understand and know, how many people we have given realization to? We have to think about it. What have we done for Sahaja Yoga? Once I was travelling by plane and I met a lady who was sitting next to Me. She was so hot - I couldn't understand. Then she told Me she is a disciple of a guru - very proud of it and she started telling Me all about him and things. I was amazed, that, look at this woman, she hasn't got anything from him and she was just saying, “I have given so much money to him, I have done this thing to him and all those things”. But she had nothing and despite that she was talking to Me, a stranger person, about the guru. But in Sahaja Yoga, I have seen, people are rather shy. They don't want to talk about Sahaja Yoga openly to others. Which is a very wrong thing you are doing, because you are responsible for this. You have been given Realization, of course you were seeking, everything is alright, but all of you must try to give Realization to others. I must say that, somehow, men have been more dynamic in working it out. The women in Sahaja Yoga are not yet coming up to that level as they should. They have to be more sensible about it and they have to work it out. They can do it, but the only trouble is I think they have certain minor problems about which they are worried. Always I get letters from ladies saying this is wrong, that is wrong, complaining, all the time. I am so fed up of their letters now that I think that it is useless to read them now, also. So I have to tell you all, that it is important, that men, because they are dynamic - women should be much more. Because they are shakti and I am a woman. So I find that the men are more sort of active and dynamic about Sahaja Yoga and I don't know what is the reason why the women are not. They can transform so many people, they can do so much good to others, they can bring so much love and compassion, because this love and compassion is a quality of a mother, of a woman and if the women don't have that quality, it is useless to be a woman. All the time if you are busy about your useless things, like fashions or faces and all that, then the time is all wasted. You have a short time now, you got your realization and you must decide what have you done so far, what have you achieved so far. But I would say that also, in Sahaja Yoga, I have found, there are all kinds of funny ideas growing here. Like certain rituals they'll take up. Then they prescribe certain rituals, they'll talk about it - a kind of a power orientation is there. They want to oppress others and they want to take over and frighten people and behave in such a manner that, as if they are very good. Some of them start saying that “Mataji said so, this is Mataji's ideas”. By their own power-orientation they manufacture things and talk like that. But ask them “How many have you given realization?”. The first thing is, you must determine is, positively “how many you have given realization? It's just talking about others, criticizing others, talking about the defects of Sahaja Yoga - seeing in Sahaja Yoga, I would say, is still a very preliminary thing that has happened before and it should stop now. Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world it will be known about our work, we will not be challenged any more. But still we have to see for ourselves, that, if we have achieved this kind of a recognition, then we should be up to that, our capabilities should be up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you ask some Sahaja Yogis, especially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much about Sahaja Yoga. They don't know about chakras, they don't know anything about the deities, nothing they know, how can they be Sahaja Yogis? You have to know all about it. Only thing, that you don't realize that it's not outside that you are a Sahaja Yogi but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind of an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, how it helps you. Now supposing, if I'm the source of that energy, which you know very well I am, then you achieve, you also, a kind of a perfection about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It is a very important work you have to do, is to bring Sahaja Yogis in Sahaja Yoga. What I find that some people are very much still lagging behind and it is very surprising that they live in that country, they are part and parcel of that country and they are not bothered. Under these circumstances they'll be blamed, that why didn't you do, why didn't you find out the ways and methods of convincing at least your countrymen. So Sahaja Yoga, at the brink of growth, cannot grow only with one country, two countries, all the countries have to be brought into Sahaja Yoga. All the people that we could call into Sahaja Yoga, will be a very good idea. And then we have books to convince people, we have to talk to them about it. But what I find about Sahaja Yogis, that once they start spreading Sahaja Yoga also, their ego comes up and they think they are great Sahaja Yogis, they are great leaders, all these kind of stupid ideas walk into their heads, which is wrong. You have to just think in a very humble manner. The more you have, the more you become humble. Like a tree, when it is laden with fruit, it bends down. In the same way, you have to be very humble, but that humility is sometimes very difficult, because the culture of the west is not a humble culture, it is a culture of aggression, a culture of domination. So far they have been everywhere, because of domination they could go all over the world, they could achieve so many things - what have they achieved? - nothing. In their own countries, if you see, drug addiction. Why should people take to drugs so much? Then all kinds of sinful things they do, which I don't want to mention, but you know what they are doing. In India, which is a poorer country, one cannot even think of such things happening around you. So find out what's wrong, where and how you can correct these things, if you can help them. Actually now, as I told you, I am going to start some sort of organizations that will do good to human beings; but you all can join also. You can also start in your own countries, something like that. But first you have to get rid of your ego. You see, that, once it happens to you, then only your attention would be steady. And this ego is very simple for you because you worship Christ, and Christ is the one who was settled on the Agnya chakra. You all worship Christ, but that humility of Christ is not there, just the opposite of it. It has happened everywhere that, whatever was preached in the religion, people did just the opposite of it.For example Hindu religion, I would say Hindu philosophy, is that in everybody resides the spirit. Now, in everybody if there is spirit, then how can you have different cast systems? And how can you have somebody higher and lower? The other way round. Now Christ has said that you have to forgive, forgive everyone and you have to humble down, and that's what one finds that among Christians they don't know humility. They have no idea of humility. Men are like that, women are like that and the men and women then go on fighting, there's no question of anybody being humble, peaceful and all that. So it's very artificially that they are showing off that they are philanthropists and all that, but inside in their heart I don't find there is any love, there's any compassion, in the real sense of the word. So when we are dealing with reality, we have to know that we cannot just go on with things which are artificial, which are befooling others, but we have to really become that. Once you become that, when you are really like that, then only you have done the job for which you are born at this juncture of blossom times. Otherwise you could have been born earlier and could have been something different but you are specially born, so you realize your value, realize yourself what you are and try to understand to have self-respect and try to do things which are very important as Sahaja Yogis. Of course you are doing a job, you are doing other things, but you'll be amazed if you do work of Sahaja Yoga you'll find more time for everything. Once you start doing God's work, God does your work and that's how you will be amazed how you get so much time to do the right thing. Now it is for you to go back and introspect, see for yourself. Now the Adi Shakti herself has come - but I'm very simple. I'm very simple to look at. In my behaviour I'm very very humble and people take me for granted. I don't do anything, I don't want to punish you, I don't want to do anything. But you yourself get punished, you yourself become useless, if you do not look after yourself and grow yourself. This finding is so great, and this man had never known me before. He's very learned, but he's very humble and what he told me that - “just imagine I'm sitting before the creator of this world and still I'm very normal”. So I said “what should happen to you, what do you think?” He said “Mother, it is a big thing to realize that I am sitting before you, and that you are here”. I said “It's good that you don't feel my presence so oppressive, or so dominating, I'm very happy”. “No”, he said, “I just feel love, just feel the compassion, that's what it is”. We have to know that we should have just love and compassion. Compassion and love for ourselves in a way that we should not harm anybody's heart. To say something, to hurt someone is very sinful but some people enjoy that very much, they think they are very clever - it's not so. When you talk to someone, you must say something which is very soothing and good. Another thing is the temper of a person, the temper that the slightest thing here and there they get into tempers. Now this has to be told, this temper, that “you keep quite, I have nothing to do with you”, that is one thing. Then there are people who are very subtly, I should say, power-oriented, very subtle. They have tricks and trades by which they know how to control others. What are you going to gain out of it? What is your gain? By doing all these things, what will happen? In these worldly things, you might be a little bit popular, a little bit having a position or something, but what is it after all, that is not going to help you. What is going to help you the most is to make yourself a perfect channel for Sahaja Yoga. To be a perfect channel; in that you will be amazed how you'll be helped. So, I would say for you people, who are in the west I would say, you must develop humility. It's very important. I was surprised in Russia itself, the people are not only humble, but such dedication, such dedication - unbelievable. They don't even raise their eyes to me. I don't know how they got this idea. This is not after the discovery, but even before that. They were so nice and so humble and so full of love and even the children brought me small, small presents, you know - just to give me, so sweetly. This is something surprising how these people in Russia have achieved that capability to become, and I think in the west, Russia is a country which will achieve a very great height in spirituality and that means they will be the most powerful people. Let us see what you are doing in your own country and how you are going to work it out. You see there are so many things you can do, very easily, if you see for yourself that you are the instrument of the divine and then your temperament will change, the nature will change, you'll become a very very sweet person, a likeable person and everybody will think that this is a saint walking around. So that's all I have to say about this, whatever is the discovery, is not a discovery for me, but discovery for the whole world and I'm sure once it is established and is exposed to the whole world, things will change for you and for me also. MAY GOD BLESS YOU

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Public Program Day 1 at Royal Albert Hall. London (UK), 7 July 1998. I bow to all the seekers of Truth. These days there are people who are going all over the places to find out the Truth, the enlightenment. And there are so many books available, so many people who talk about enlightenment. And this is only in this special age, which I call as " the blossom time ", is happening. If they are not seeking the Truth, that means they are not yet evolved as this should have been. But this is a special time that we call as the "Last Judgement" and that time has come. In the Koran it's called as Kiyama and described very clearly what will happen at this time. All these have been indicated in all the books which are, I would say, mystical or we can call as religious - whatever you may call it - the mystic part of it. They've all indicated this time, this time by the end of this century, this should happen. And this has bewildered many people, they are going hither and thither, getting into problems. As it's very embarrassing what Dr. Derek Lee has told Me. Is a fact that I went to Russia and a scientist came forward and he said that: " Mother, I have seen your photographs and it says so much because I haven't seen more than one line showing. " It is very embarassing, the whole thing was very embarrassing for Me. And he said: " I've proved it now, through all equations and everything. " And he showed Me the book which is in Russian language and all mathematical calculations, that one has to go to a vacuum state, a physical vacuum state, for Reality to be understood. It was, I think, too much of science in it. For whatever it is, all these ideas, say of Koran, of Bible, of other religious books, all the religious books from India could be called as a myth and they were treated as myths. Many people thought it was just a myth and they said there's no use believing in all these things, there is nothing. And also through these books, people have been misled to do wrong things, so the whole thing got challenged also in a way: that it's not practical, it's not beneficial, is no good. But when it becomes a real experience - you may call it subjective, may call it anything - but when it becomes a real experience, then you start believing in it as Reality. But if a scientist proves it with his scientific knowledge, then I don't know what to say, then it really becomes the fact. And when it becomes the fact it becomes the science. Science can be challenged. First of all, science is amoral. It is not bothered, as a science as it exists today, if they create atom-bombs, they create other things destructive and use it for wrong purposes, there is no binding force on the scientist. They can do whatever they like and people can use it the way they want to use it. But when it comes to Divine force, the science is perfect, I must tell you. You cannot challenge that science, you cannot - everything that you know through the science of Sahaja Yoga, you can easily verify it. For example, firstly it is said that your physical elements disappear, it's a fact. Without any money, without any fees or anything, just you get cured of your troubles. And when you get cured of your troubles, then you are amazed how through your own power you have been cured. But it happens, it has happened - you know, we have many doctors here - English doctors, not easy to convince - and they have seen with their own experience that many patients who were supposed to be incurable are cured. They have seen that many drug addicts got all right overnight. How? Without paying for it, without taking any medicine, just through their own power of Kundalini. Now this power of Kundalini was known all over the world, I think, because I find in their museums Kundalini drawn in the triangular bone even in Sweden I saw. But I should say, it's in Finland, I saw. Then also, I went to Ukraine in their museum, there are all pictures of these chakras and of the Kundalini. And in a farfetched place like Bolivia, where it could not reach there even by air about, I think, six years back, you find the pictures of Kundalini. And Colombia, the ancient Colombia had created statues in which Kundalini was the main thing. So somebody must have told them or they might have known about Her. But somebody went from Italy to Bolivia and the Bolivian people said " We know all about it, yes, we know. But we don't know how to raise the Kundalini. " And now there are I think eight, nine thousand people in that farfetched place of Bolivia who have got their Realization. For which you don't have to pay. Is the main thing one should understand. It's like you don't pay for your breathing, you don't pay for your digestion - in the same way for your ascent to a new life, last, we can say, the breakthrough of your evolution, for which you don't have to pay. As soon as you understand this point, you'll be amazed that you'll give up all nonsensical people who are marketing their things, selling their things. You see, it's something absurd, the absurdity to such a limit that you become blind and you don't know what they are doing, what they're up to. And don't want to listen to anybody who wants to tell you the truth. Now if we have to see for our own ascent - as they say in Koran, Miraj - in India this thing is called as Self-realization, Atma Darshan, or you can call it, Atma Sakshatkar. If you really want it - it's very easy and has to be easy, because it is so vital. And when that works out, you actually experience it and it can be tallied with the description of it. The trouble is we are so mental. We want to derive everything on a mental level. But thank God, this scientist has found out something for your mind to go round and round and round and reach the point. Because I think sometimes this mind, which is filled with all kinds of false ideas - sometimes slightly right ideas or sometimes real ideas - they go on bombarding in your head. And this scientist has said that you have to go to the vacuum, which Jung has described as thoughtless awareness, to become thoughtless. When you become thoughtless, then you can see, feel Reality. So, what happens, how do we get thought? When we go to some place, we see something - immediately we react, that's our habit. This can be also proved scientifically why we always react. Either we react towards it or we absorb it. So, all the time our mind is working - and it is a wobbly mind. You are all the time bothered with it and the modern times are the worst, though this is a special time, as I said, because this is the time when people think the most and this thinking goes on acting in such a way that they suffer from all kinds of diseases. Also sometimes this mind doesn't tell you that this is wrong, that is wrong. You go on doing things you know, for example, Hitler, how he behaved, how he killed so many people, but he never realized he was doing something wrong, never. Ultimately, he killed himself because he was afraid that he'll be caught, but not that he repented. So, they go on doing wrong things all the time without knowing that they are doing wrong things. Now, to say this is sin, that is sin only fills people with fear, that's all and guilt. But actually when you become the Self, in the light of the Self, you know what is right and what is wrong, what should be avoided, what is not beneficial for you. You just know, because you know about your Self, you get the Self knowledge that is you can feel your centres - has been told to you - on your finger tips, this again is said in the Koran that " at the time of Kiyama - the Last Judgement - your hands will speak ". But whole thing gets perverted sometimes by using it for a wrong purpose, that's how we have destroyed sometimes the real knowledge, the subtle knowledge of our being. It's nothing to stand for hours together on one leg in Himalayas torturing your body. You don't have to torture your body at all. People think that if you have to perfect yourself, you must torture. This body is the temple. What is the use of building temples after temples when you cannot build your own temple? This body is the temple and why should you torture this body? You must look after this body, look after with love, with respect and then only you will realize how important is to have a body. All these funny ideas, you know, of renunciation and all false kind of approach is not going to help. My daughter was coming from India. She said, there were some fair people travelling with us in first class. So, they wouldn't allow the air hostess to come and serve them, because they cannot allow the air hostess to talk to them. So I said " Did you talk to them? " Said "How could I, I'm a woman, who would talk to me?" Because she's a woman, nobody would talk. Then, sat on the ground. There's no ground but they wouldn't sit on the chair and eat the food. For what? Because they are renouncing everything, I think they have renounced their brains, that's what it is. All kinds of stupid things people do, for what? To achieve that state of tranquility, the state of Self realization, of Self knowledge. But just think of it, which is what has to happen inside. What's the use of doing something outside unnecessarily making a mess of yourself and of others? It is absurd, the way people try to understand that by troubling your body, by making a mess of your body, making a mess of the whole society that you can achieve something which is so subtle and beautiful. Now, the scientists call this All Pervading Power, or which I say, of Divine love, as cosmic energy, or they may call it by any name. But it's nothing solid, it is Love, it is love of God. And this Divine love of God is an energy that runs the whole universe, universes of universes. Just see the miracle of life. All that is managed by this energy of Divine love! Well, we have never felt it before, so we don't know what it is, but in every scripture it's written there - that there is the power of Divine love. For example, in Sanskrit, this is called Parama Chaitanya or Brahma Chaitanya. In every scripture it is being described, but for people it's some sort of a... unknown thing. But now, with science, if it can be proved that the whole universe is managed by this energy which thinks, which understands, which loves. For example, the same scientist came to see Me, to have an interview with Me. He was smiling all the time and he asked Me very interesting questions. One of them he asked about the picture he had seen. Where? Here in this hall. They were singing the song " Sitting in the heart of the Universe " and all over Me came: heart, heart, heart, heart, just like a doctor would draw the line of the heart - so many hearts drawn with the rays of light. And he asked " What is this, Mother? How do they know that they are singing this song? " I said " Because I know, so they also know. " Precisely how do they do things? Because they know, they know more than anyone can know. Not only that but the way our genes and all those things are there is a very subtle thing, no doubt, but is all managed by this power of Divine love. Please understand: there is nothing to fear, nothing to get upset, nothing to starve, nothing to climb Himalayas, nothing needed. This power loves you and it is around you, here it is. It is everywhere and it pulsates, it vibrates, it creates everything. Also the scientist told Me about Einstein, who said that " All these ideas come to me not from within but from without as if somebody is pouring these ideas into me. " And he said " I felt the same way and so many scientists feel that. " Surprisingly, in Russia the scientists are very open hearted. And at the time of Stalin, they were all arrested and put in a place called Novosibirsk (?), where they were living, and there they developed, you see, this subtler side - because they were not allowed very much to do other things. So they developed the subtler side of human beings, and there they found out also about auras - he is one of them - auras: that human beings have auras and from the auras, you can diagnose their diseases. But now, after seeing My photographs and all that he has reached the proper conclusion surprisingly. And I think, I hope I'll be saved from all kinds of people who criticize Sahaja Yoga as a cult or this and that. It is not. It's a living process whether you are a hindu, muslim, christian, anything, is meant for you and it is your right, your birth right to have it. And then after that, once you get the sprouting of the seed, you must allow this tree to grow. Actually, those people who talk of social work, talk of helping others, doing this for them and doing that for them have to understand: first you should be empowered, you must have the power within yourself to help others. But if you just come to My program, they always say " Mother, for Your program the whole hall is full. " and then they start disappearing - specially in England, very surprising. England is the heart of the universe, and how could they be so careless about their ascent and so careless about developing their own huge big tree of love. They are the best suited and they have to work it out. But they don't, they don't take it seriously. Why, I don't understand. Maybe they don't know what they are. They are very powerful people, they are, I should say, the instrument of the Divine. Only thing, they have to develop. But they stick on to this or stick on to that - then you can't grow. This is a seed already placed within you - undisturbed, unspoiled. Only thing is a little water of love has to be poured on it, then the seed sprouts, and when the seed sprouts, it rises, the plumule sprouts out into and it rises, goes up and comes out of your fontanel bone area, which is called as Brahmarandra in Sanskrit language, meaning the hole to feel the Brahma, the All-pervading power. I've seen people who know also Sanskrit very well. They are running here organizations, but they don't know anything about Kundalini, it's very surprising. What do they read, I don't know. And if you go to them, they'll argue so much with you that you feel like running away from them. Only they know how to argue. No argument needed actually, it is there, within you, this power is. Do you argue with your stomach how to digest the food? And even if you do, will the stomach understand? It's as stupid as that, to argue about something which is so spontaneous, which is a living process - it's a living process of your evolution. Now, by the way, how did we become human beings? Do we know? And how do we become a super human being? If there is a way, there's a method, you don't have to spend anything. But you have to grow. If you don't grow, it's useless, as Christ has described, just as some seeds fell onto the land which was not fertile. Is it so? Are we living in a land which is not fertile for spirituality or we are running after some things which are illusive? Why should we run after illusive things? Here, you get the experience, all right, after that you must grow. If you grow, you can change this world - it's a global movement. Like in Russia, I would say, there are millions, millions in Russia. While in India, too, we have may be millions. And also Austria - so many countries have got it - Italy, imagine. Their people have awakened, so why not in England? And the leaders of England are rather upset with the English. They think this... " It doesn't work out, Mother. " I can't understand. Because this is the seventh time I'm here, and seventh heavens you have to know, that you can know without any difficulties, without paying anything, the whole knowledge is free! Is it because it is free you don't care? They've asked Me to talk about it. Otherwise it's not worth talking about these things. Your country as such is like really the heart and it circulates all over the world. All your newspapers - they may be useless - but they circulate. All your media - whatever they may publish - it circulates all over the world. You don't know about Americans, though it's supposed to be a very great country. We don't know about any other country so much as we know about England. How? Why? Monarchy in so many places, but we know everything about monarchy from England. Why? How? How do we manage? Is worth asking this question: there's something special about this country. I lived here for years, I've worked hard, I went from North to South, East to West. Perhaps, I left no city which I did not visit. But the situation is such that when they get Realization, they are very happy, they start jumping, and after that they forget about it. It's a great responsibility on people of UK that they can do so much in spirituality. Not...it's not something also so cheap that it can be sold, it's invaluable. It's invaluable. It's your right to get it. And also it's your sensibility that you should grow into it. For example, in England, when I first came, I had to deal with the drug addicts, they were the first who came. Perhaps, they were seeking in drugs the Truth. When they came, overnight they gave up their drugs - overnight - even alcohol - people gave up overnight, overnight. Believe Me, they are here now, I know they are sitting here. Now, this is the minimum, and so many people got cured. I really wanted that something should be written about the miracles of Sahaja Yoga. So I told one gentleman, Englishman he is, he wrote to Me " Mother, it's not even one month, from both the sides, all the letters have gone up over my head. I don't know how to select. So, can you give me some time? Myself, I have no time at all. You can select yourself. " With all this, why don't you experiment and why don't you grow? You are very important, this is what you don't understand: that you have been born in this country or you have come to this country - whatever it is - it is a very important, significant place and a life of yours. But you should understand that it's very important and that you should grow. But it is beyond Me to understand that in a place like Austria, in a place like Italy, how is it, they have understood it and they're automatically working it out? I, you know, I have crossed My 75 years of age and I don't know how long I will have to live to face the English people and how will they understand! Sometimes, it's beyond Me. But now you will know that it is a science and the scientists have said that they have seen the cosmic energy emitted out of My head. That's a fact that Sahaja Yogis know. Sahaja Yogis know, they have felt it, they have got this experience. For them, it's nothing new - not through science - but they have known it as an experience. Now for you... You are also very well-educated people, everywhere, you are respected very much, it is for you now to evaluate your own personality and understand: Why are you on this earth? What is the purpose? So many of you got Realization last time, but you are nowhere, you've done nothing... I mean, you've got your Realization, all right. Each person can give Realization to thousands of people if he gets out of his own, I should say, own ideas. And this can do such a lot of good to the whole world. Formerly, in America it was terrible, because all kinds of funny people went there, to make money. So, they told Me " If you don't ask for money, Mother, in America nobody will come. They have to pay for it, otherwise they don't value it. " I said " But, sorry, you cannot, how much, you tell Me how much should I charge. How much do you charge for your mother's love? Then you tell Me how much you charge and then we can work it out. " And it was surprising that it hit their heads. Now it's better. Same thing, I have to request that, please, find out, when you have this experience of Kundalini awakening that you are a chosen person for a special work. For example now, this instrument, if it is not connected to the mains, what is the identification, what is the purpose? That's why then people become hippies, they become this, then punks - because they have no identification. But the identification is only one: that you are the Spirit, that's the Truth. And it has to happen to you, that you are the Spirit, you have the power of the Spirit. In the light of the Spirit you start seeing, start seeing and understanding so well about all the problems that are in the whole world and your own problems also. It's not only Self knowledge but also global knowledge of a very subtle nature. And that is all is within you, all this horizon is there waiting for you to greet it. But I don't know why people have no confidence or no understanding. Anything can be done, but first of all you must have the pure desire to become that. Forget about everything else. For example, this power of, which resides in the triangular bone. This bone is called as Sacrum, means the Greeks also knew that this is a sacred bone. This power is of pure desire. And if you have the pure desire you can become so dynamically aware of yourself and aware of everything. I was surprised that in a far-fetched place like Russia we have to always take a stadium, you can't do it in this hall, you cannot manage, I think. How is it, in that country it is working? Because of communism, perhaps. They were so oppressed, that all the search started going inside. But just in such a short time, I was surprised, these people, how did they get it and how did they develop and they are still developing, all of them are developing. And only I am the person allowed in Russia now to go and preach - this is also another thing. This ignorance that we have, the problems we have - physical problems, mental problems - it will all be controlled. Now there's a new disease, as you know, Alzheimer. How it comes? If a person is extremely aggressive and torturing people, doing this. When he gets old, his brain deviates and only that bad stuff start working and that person who is suffering is not aware of it. And you cannot cure it, also. But in the lifetime, if you get your Realization and you become absolutely peaceful within yourself, such diseases cannot touch you, they cannot disturb you and you become a loving beautiful person. You don't bother about what he earns, what the other person has got a personality, this, that, nothing. It's just a subtle love you feel for everyone. For everyone, whatever religion he may belong, whatever country he may belong, whatever problems he may have. Can you believe in a place, in a country like Turkey Sahaja Yoga sparked like this. There are two thousand Turkish people who are meditating and their Prime Minister's wife came to see Me, just to get her Realisation. Now, what is so great about? They say Ataturk was their leader and it is the one who has led the path. Why? You had such great people: William Blake and so many... Shakespeare, this, that - they were all realized souls. Their poetry is not just to read, but to read between the lines what they are saying. It is very important now, I request you, at the end of this century, that once you get your Realization here, please, grow, become more collective. Certain funny-funny ideas I heard and I was surprised - that the hall is not all right, and that... - there's nothing to do. It's something that happens inside you, something that works inside and gives you that beautiful feeling of being the Self. As a result, your health improves, you become mentally a very satisfied and a very balanced person, all your stress, this and that disappears. Thirdly, you look much younger than what you are, because inside you are younger. Fourthly, you understand others, you love others, love to do things for others and all these stupid problems of fighting with these, taking revenge on the person, killing somebody - this all disappears. That with the name of God all these stupid ideas, which has created the global problem, will disappear. The time has come and it is the Last Judgement. I think, the levels are changing: those who are chosen, I should say, this path of Divine love are going higher and others, who are negative, are going downward, they are getting exposed, everywhere, they are getting exposed. They'll be exposed. That is for you to decide which way you want to move, what you want to have. I think, this is the first time I am saying this to you, I've never said this way. I told you what you are - you are so great, this, that and this, that - but despite that, if you don't realize your value is wasted. So when you become the Spirit, then everything changes for you. I am surprised how people start understanding the follies of their brothers and sisters, who are forming a big society, things like that. For example, they give up drinking. When they give up drinking in France, Sahaja Yogis were thought to be mad - because how can you do without drinking? And now the French are taking to Sahaja Yoga very much. Imagine, French are much more than they are here. And they are saving money because they are not wasting on anything: no drugs, no smoking, no drinking. But we don't say " Don't do it! ", because otherwise half of you will go away, but it just happens to you. For example, if there is light, you can see everything clearly: whatever is destructive, you just don't do it. But whatever is constructive we accept and work it out. Such love and such affection. For example, these people who were singing, they're from all over the world, they are not only British. Especially the British, very difficult to learn Indian language, it's impossible. And look at them how they are singing. And not only that, but singing Indian classical music, which is a very difficult thing. I didn't teach them. It's very surprising, how things work out. So many artists I know, who have earned the world fame with Sahaja Yoga. But we have an Academy and so many foreign boys went there and studied Indian music. I was amazed: in three months they were singing Malkaus raga with all elaborations. Impossible! How can they do all that? Also there's one boy I know - he was hardly fourteen years of age when he came to Me - and within one year's time he is a great violonist, he plays Mozart without seeing any papers, anything. How can do it? He was not like that. And he writes such beautiful poetry. You can't believe it! I asked him " When did you start? " - " After seeing You, Mother, I don't know why I'm writing. " I have seen people, who are scientists have become poets. Can't understand, how your sleeping - or I would say - dormant qualities just come out. You don't run after success, you don't run after competition, but automatically it happens. For that you don't have to worry " I am old, how can it happen? " - nothing. At any age it can happen to you. At any time it can happen to you. So don't doubt about yourself also. Then you become a very loving sweet person, very sensible and dignified. You don't insult others, don't trouble others, but you help, you share the difficulties of others. Suddenly you find, you've become a part and parcel of a great collective which is working in the whole world. It is very surprising, how you have brothers and sisters all over the world and wherever you go, they'll give their life for you. Have you seen such a family anywhere? Beautiful people! So, I have to make a request to you. Today, of course, I'll try to give you Self-Realisation, if possible, it works out. But you must respect, you must respect and you must grow. All the saints have talked about it in India. Now, we have here lots of people from, say, Punjab, the Sikhs are there. And all these books have been described for Sahaj. He himself, Guru Nanaka said " Sahaja samadhi laago ". He has used this word, all of them have used this word. But Indians who are here, I don't know, they are... they say " We cannot digest Sahaja Yoga. " They can only digest pounds, I think. Very surprising. It's very surprising how this materialism has come over. But does it give happiness to anyone? Does it give joy, does it give friendship? Full of jealousy, competition - all nonsense is going on. You overcome all that just like this, you enjoy, everything. If somebody has a good furniture, all right, this is a very nice carpet, all right, so what you do, you look at it, you enjoy. You enjoy whatever is created beautiful. You don't think about it, you don't react. The reaction is that there's joy. What a beauty it is! You don't think who has made it, how much it will cost, nothing. You become thoughtless. And thoughtless awareness is nothing but such a pouring sense of joy. Joy which is neither happiness or unhappiness, but singular. You cannot describe it in words but you can really feel it inside yourself, that joy of being the Self. And that's the time has come for you to get it. You are also here for that and this is the special time when it is going to work out. Now you feel also a collective consciousness, that you can feel on your fingertips the chakras, the centres of other people and who is the other? On your centres you can feel your problems, in the same way you can see the problems of others. If you can cure your own centres, you can easily cure the centres of others. Without any money, without any fuss, without anything. It's very, very simple, it is all built-in within you. All this is built-in within you and this built-in power starts working. You don't have to do anything. It's all there, for example you see so many lights are here: you switch on and you get all the lights. But you know how to switch on: it's all built-in. Again I say, you don't have to stand on your heads, you don't have to break your necks, nothing. As you are you are wonderful. And this is your own individual mother: She is your own, She has no other child, and She knows everything about you. As you have in the tape, you see: She knows your past, She knows your aspirations, She knows you very well and She is the one who is going to give your second birth. She is your mother. She loves you. Now there are books saying that if you have the Kundalini, She disturbs you, it is the modern ones. Well, they say that "burns you". She is your mother. Have you heard, I mean maybe in these modern times everything is possible, but can a mother burn her own child? She has been waiting for ages to give you this Realization. For ages She is within you and now you don't give Her a chance to give you a second birth? How can that be? You will understand that all these great incarnations who came on this earth have helped to build up this. They are all there within you, on these centres, which you'll find out. And all these fights going on stupidly in the name of God or anything is nonsense because they are all one. We are only fighting. So all your global problems, all your fighting problems, all your family problems and the word "problems" disappears. It happens. It must happen, because you are specially blessed, and you are the Spirit. This collectiveness gives you the feeling of oneness with others. Not out of jealousy, not out of greed, not out of any carnal love or anything, but it is just pure love, pure love which you have not experienced. All the perversions drop out... But you don't become sort of an abnormal person on the street, you see, walking with your closed eyes, no. You become an enlightened person, absolutely normal. You dress up normally outside, you can live with your life. But then you understand what is your dignity, your decency and everything. There's no show outside of your achievement but you know within yourself. You also know who is a Realised soul and then you meet. There's such a connection. Has been always, but now it becomes obvious, evident and you can work it out. The most important thing is that your brain opens out like this, like a lotus. It opens out. All the problems of brain drop out. How many diseases there are of brain, I wanted to know, so there's such a big book. I said, "My Goodness, more than the petals we have in the brain". And it can happen to anybody in the modern times. It's very common, it's awaiting at your door, sort. All this can be solved, absolutely you can be saved, you can be protected. And every time you will be feeling this: you are protected, there is somebody to protect you, to encourage you, to look after. Who is that? That is this Param Chaitanya. That is this, they call it Ruh, they call it the All-pervading Power of Divine Love, they also call it the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost, as you feel a cool breeze on your fingertips. It's all written there in all the books, but symbolically, so people don't understand. Once it happens, then you are in another world. Such miracles, such help and such protection! It's a thing where you feel, you can never be drowned in the ocean of this mad world, because now you are in the Ocean of joy. You are enjoying and this is what you have to have. But you must grow, all of you must grow. I am staying on for one day more just to come to follow-up meeting. Also if you have any complaints you better bring them. But there is nothing to complain actually, you should complain against yourself. Either you are lazy, or you are too enthusiastic or you are infatuated by some sort of a nonsensical guru or something is there. Just don't try to criticize others but see for yourself, introspect: why is it, why can't I do it? All this can work out, I assure you. I assure you very much that you should realize that My coming to England, living here for years together. I didn't come for Sahaja Yoga. I came because My husband got a job here. And then, seeing people in England, I thought, they can really achieve a lot. May God bless you all! Derek is asking Me, "Better give them Realization." I know, they are ready to get it, but they have to grow, that's the point, I'm telling you. He feels quite helpless and he doesn't know what is the matter with them. I told him " You grow some beard, moustaches. " Maybe a better idea. Might be they're used to things like that. It's nothing external. It is the internal beauty that we have to know. Now, it's very simple. If it doesn't shock you, I'll tell you there are two, three conditions.The first one is you have to take out your shoes, if it doesn't shock. Because this Mother Earth helps us a lot - She absorbs all our problems. All right. Now, the second condition is - which is also not very absurd - that please don't feel guilty about anything. It's a fashion: "I'm very guilty." - "Why are you guilty?" - "No, I've to confess - I am very guilty." - "About what?" - "You know, the other day I was eating the food and I was holding knife on the right hand." - finished. These norms are human beings have created this kind of stupid things for which you should feel guilty. And that this center here, on the left hand side, you get spondylitis, also angina, it's a fact - so, not to feel guilty! What are you guilty about? If you were guilty, you would have been in jail, not here. So, please, first of all, forgive yourself completely. You are not guilty, I assure you. There's a new evolution with people's mind that they should feel guilty - finished. If you are guilty, when it happens, you should have done something about it, forget it. Why are you carrying that load on your left Vishuddhi, here? This is the second one. And the third one is - I think, is also very simple - is to forgive yourself, as I said, and forgive others. Now, you say " Mother, we can't, just we can't, it's very difficult. " But try to understand the logic: whether you forgive or don't forgive, what do you do? Nothing, just the same. But say, if you don't forgive, then what happens: you play into wrong hands, you torture yourself. So, just say in your heart " Mother, I forgive myself fully, I forgive others fully " - whether they are in your mind or not, just say that and your this center will open now in no time. This will all help Me a lot. These tree things are very important and I know you can get your Realization in no time. So to put your hands like this towards Me, like this, just simple, as if you are asking for your Self realization, like this. Need not be higher, just whatever is comfortable. People can't believe that sitting in the hall, how can we get Realization? But you deserve it. You get it because that's the time, and because you are seekers. Don't doubt yourself, please. Have your hands like that. Now, you can close your eyes, if you want to. If you don't want to close, don't close your eyes. Because there is no mesmerism going on: at least, I close My eyes. Now, put the right hand towards Me, and put the left hand on top of your fontanel bone area.Now, you'll feel some cool or hot breeze, coming out of your fontanel bone area, which was a soft bone in your childhood. Don't put your hand on top of it, you have to put it away from you, and you can move the hand to see yourself. Don't say that you've got it unless and until you've got it. You are not to cheat ourselves, all right. Now, please, put your left hand towards Me and put the right hand on top of your head. You can bend your head, that's better if you bend your head, and with the right hand you see. Once more, please, put your right hand towards Me, and again with the left hand you see for yourself, if there's a cool or a hot breeze is coming. Now, don't doubt it: if it is coming, it is there. Could be hot, it will cool down. Can move up on the sides and see for yourself. Now, open your eyes and put your both the hands towards Me like this. Now, watch Me without thinking, without thinking, just try, you can do it. Ah? Now, raise your both the hands towards the sky like this, push back your head. And ask anyone of these three questions three times, anyone of them: First one " Mother, is this the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost? " - first question is " Is this the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost? " Second question is " Mother, is this the All-pervading Power of Divine love? " Third question is " Mother, is this the Ruh, or the Param Chaitanya? " Ask anyone of these questions three times in your heart. Now, again put down your hands, that's all. Now, put your hands like this towards Me, just like this. All those who have felt cool or hot breeze on their palms or on their fingertips or out of their fontanel bone area, please raise your both the hands. Just look at that! You're proving what I've said. Just look at that! Now, you've got it, now this is a responsibility to grow. May God bless you! May God bless you! Such a joy, such a happiness! I wish you best of luck and also wish you a very, very deep understanding of your being.

Public Program Day 1 at Royal Albert Hall. London (UK), 7 July 1998. I bow to all the seekers of Truth. These days there are people who are going all over the places to find out the Truth, the enlightenment. And there are so many books available, so many people who talk about enlightenment. And this is only in this special age, which I call as " the blossom time ", is happening. If they are not seeking the Truth, that means they are not yet evolved as this should have been. But this is a special time that we call as the "Last Judgement" and that time has come. In the Koran it's called as Kiyama and described very clearly what will happen at this time. All these have been indicated in all the books which are, I would say, mystical or we can call as religious - whatever you may call it - the mystic part of it. They've all indicated this time, this time by the end of this century, this should happen. And this has bewildered many people, they are going hither and thither, getting into problems. As it's very embarrassing what Dr. Derek Lee has told Me. Is a fact that I went to Russia and a scientist came forward and he said that: " Mother, I have seen your photographs and it says so much because I haven't seen more than one line showing. " It is very embarassing, the whole thing was very embarrassing for Me. And he said: " I've proved it now, through all equations and everything. " And he showed Me the book which is in Russian language and all mathematical calculations, that one has to go to a vacuum state, a physical vacuum state, for Reality to be understood. It was, I think, too much of science in it. For whatever it is, all these ideas, say of Koran, of Bible, of other religious books, all the religious books from India could be called as a myth and they were treated as myths. Many people thought it was just a myth and they said there's no use believing in all these things, there is nothing. And also through these books, people have been misled to do wrong things, so the whole thing got challenged also in a way: that it's not practical, it's not beneficial, is no good. But when it becomes a real experience - you may call it subjective, may call it anything - but when it becomes a real experience, then you start believing in it as Reality. But if a scientist proves it with his scientific knowledge, then I don't know what to say, then it really becomes the fact. And when it becomes the fact it becomes the science. Science can be challenged. First of all, science is amoral. It is not bothered, as a science as it exists today, if they create atom-bombs, they create other things destructive and use it for wrong purposes, there is no binding force on the scientist. They can do whatever they like and people can use it the way they want to use it. But when it comes to Divine force, the science is perfect, I must tell you. You cannot challenge that science, you cannot - everything that you know through the science of Sahaja Yoga, you can easily verify it. For example, firstly it is said that your physical elements disappear, it's a fact. Without any money, without any fees or anything, just you get cured of your troubles. And when you get cured of your troubles, then you are amazed how through your own power you have been cured. But it happens, it has happened - you know, we have many doctors here - English doctors, not easy to convince - and they have seen with their own experience that many patients who were supposed to be incurable are cured. They have seen that many drug addicts got all right overnight. How? Without paying for it, without taking any medicine, just through their own power of Kundalini. Now this power of Kundalini was known all over the world, I think, because I find in their museums Kundalini drawn in the triangular bone even in Sweden I saw. But I should say, it's in Finland, I saw. Then also, I went to Ukraine in their museum, there are all pictures of these chakras and of the Kundalini. And in a farfetched place like Bolivia, where it could not reach there even by air about, I think, six years back, you find the pictures of Kundalini. And Colombia, the ancient Colombia had created statues in which Kundalini was the main thing. So somebody must have told them or they might have known about Her. But somebody went from Italy to Bolivia and the Bolivian people said " We know all about it, yes, we know. But we don't know how to raise the Kundalini. " And now there are I think eight, nine thousand people in that farfetched place of Bolivia who have got their Realization. For which you don't have to pay. Is the main thing one should understand. It's like you don't pay for your breathing, you don't pay for your digestion - in the same way for your ascent to a new life, last, we can say, the breakthrough of your evolution, for which you don't have to pay. As soon as you understand this point, you'll be amazed that you'll give up all nonsensical people who are marketing their things, selling their things. You see, it's something absurd, the absurdity to such a limit that you become blind and you don't know what they are doing, what they're up to. And don't want to listen to anybody who wants to tell you the truth. Now if we have to see for our own ascent - as they say in Koran, Miraj - in India this thing is called as Self-realization, Atma Darshan, or you can call it, Atma Sakshatkar. If you really want it - it's very easy and has to be easy, because it is so vital. And when that works out, you actually experience it and it can be tallied with the description of it. The trouble is we are so mental. We want to derive everything on a mental level. But thank God, this scientist has found out something for your mind to go round and round and round and reach the point. Because I think sometimes this mind, which is filled with all kinds of false ideas - sometimes slightly right ideas or sometimes real ideas - they go on bombarding in your head. And this scientist has said that you have to go to the vacuum, which Jung has described as thoughtless awareness, to become thoughtless. When you become thoughtless, then you can see, feel Reality. So, what happens, how do we get thought? When we go to some place, we see something - immediately we react, that's our habit. This can be also proved scientifically why we always react. Either we react towards it or we absorb it. So, all the time our mind is working - and it is a wobbly mind. You are all the time bothered with it and the modern times are the worst, though this is a special time, as I said, because this is the time when people think the most and this thinking goes on acting in such a way that they suffer from all kinds of diseases. Also sometimes this mind doesn't tell you that this is wrong, that is wrong. You go on doing things you know, for example, Hitler, how he behaved, how he killed so many people, but he never realized he was doing something wrong, never. Ultimately, he killed himself because he was afraid that he'll be caught, but not that he repented. So, they go on doing wrong things all the time without knowing that they are doing wrong things. Now, to say this is sin, that is sin only fills people with fear, that's all and guilt. But actually when you become the Self, in the light of the Self, you know what is right and what is wrong, what should be avoided, what is not beneficial for you. You just know, because you know about your Self, you get the Self knowledge that is you can feel your centres - has been told to you - on your finger tips, this again is said in the Koran that " at the time of Kiyama - the Last Judgement - your hands will speak ". But whole thing gets perverted sometimes by using it for a wrong purpose, that's how we have destroyed sometimes the real knowledge, the subtle knowledge of our being. It's nothing to stand for hours together on one leg in Himalayas torturing your body. You don't have to torture your body at all. People think that if you have to perfect yourself, you must torture. This body is the temple. What is the use of building temples after temples when you cannot build your own temple? This body is the temple and why should you torture this body? You must look after this body, look after with love, with respect and then only you will realize how important is to have a body. All these funny ideas, you know, of renunciation and all false kind of approach is not going to help. My daughter was coming from India. She said, there were some fair people travelling with us in first class. So, they wouldn't allow the air hostess to come and serve them, because they cannot allow the air hostess to talk to them. So I said " Did you talk to them? " Said "How could I, I'm a woman, who would talk to me?" Because she's a woman, nobody would talk. Then, sat on the ground. There's no ground but they wouldn't sit on the chair and eat the food. For what? Because they are renouncing everything, I think they have renounced their brains, that's what it is. All kinds of stupid things people do, for what? To achieve that state of tranquility, the state of Self realization, of Self knowledge. But just think of it, which is what has to happen inside. What's the use of doing something outside unnecessarily making a mess of yourself and of others? It is absurd, the way people try to understand that by troubling your body, by making a mess of your body, making a mess of the whole society that you can achieve something which is so subtle and beautiful. Now, the scientists call this All Pervading Power, or which I say, of Divine love, as cosmic energy, or they may call it by any name. But it's nothing solid, it is Love, it is love of God. And this Divine love of God is an energy that runs the whole universe, universes of universes. Just see the miracle of life. All that is managed by this energy of Divine love! Well, we have never felt it before, so we don't know what it is, but in every scripture it's written there - that there is the power of Divine love. For example, in Sanskrit, this is called Parama Chaitanya or Brahma Chaitanya. In every scripture it is being described, but for people it's some sort of a... unknown thing. But now, with science, if it can be proved that the whole universe is managed by this energy which thinks, which understands, which loves. For example, the same scientist came to see Me, to have an interview with Me. He was smiling all the time and he asked Me very interesting questions. One of them he asked about the picture he had seen. Where? Here in this hall. They were singing the song " Sitting in the heart of the Universe " and all over Me came: heart, heart, heart, heart, just like a doctor would draw the line of the heart - so many hearts drawn with the rays of light. And he asked " What is this, Mother? How do they know that they are singing this song? " I said " Because I know, so they also know. " Precisely how do they do things? Because they know, they know more than anyone can know. Not only that but the way our genes and all those things are there is a very subtle thing, no doubt, but is all managed by this power of Divine love. Please understand: there is nothing to fear, nothing to get upset, nothing to starve, nothing to climb Himalayas, nothing needed. This power loves you and it is around you, here it is. It is everywhere and it pulsates, it vibrates, it creates everything. Also the scientist told Me about Einstein, who said that " All these ideas come to me not from within but from without as if somebody is pouring these ideas into me. " And he said " I felt the same way and so many scientists feel that. " Surprisingly, in Russia the scientists are very open hearted. And at the time of Stalin, they were all arrested and put in a place called Novosibirsk (?), where they were living, and there they developed, you see, this subtler side - because they were not allowed very much to do other things. So they developed the subtler side of human beings, and there they found out also about auras - he is one of them - auras: that human beings have auras and from the auras, you can diagnose their diseases. But now, after seeing My photographs and all that he has reached the proper conclusion surprisingly. And I think, I hope I'll be saved from all kinds of people who criticize Sahaja Yoga as a cult or this and that. It is not. It's a living process whether you are a hindu, muslim, christian, anything, is meant for you and it is your right, your birth right to have it. And then after that, once you get the sprouting of the seed, you must allow this tree to grow. Actually, those people who talk of social work, talk of helping others, doing this for them and doing that for them have to understand: first you should be empowered, you must have the power within yourself to help others. But if you just come to My program, they always say " Mother, for Your program the whole hall is full. " and then they start disappearing - specially in England, very surprising. England is the heart of the universe, and how could they be so careless about their ascent and so careless about developing their own huge big tree of love. They are the best suited and they have to work it out. But they don't, they don't take it seriously. Why, I don't understand. Maybe they don't know what they are. They are very powerful people, they are, I should say, the instrument of the Divine. Only thing, they have to develop. But they stick on to this or stick on to that - then you can't grow. This is a seed already placed within you - undisturbed, unspoiled. Only thing is a little water of love has to be poured on it, then the seed sprouts, and when the seed sprouts, it rises, the plumule sprouts out into and it rises, goes up and comes out of your fontanel bone area, which is called as Brahmarandra in Sanskrit language, meaning the hole to feel the Brahma, the All-pervading power. I've seen people who know also Sanskrit very well. They are running here organizations, but they don't know anything about Kundalini, it's very surprising. What do they read, I don't know. And if you go to them, they'll argue so much with you that you feel like running away from them. Only they know how to argue. No argument needed actually, it is there, within you, this power is. Do you argue with your stomach how to digest the food? And even if you do, will the stomach understand? It's as stupid as that, to argue about something which is so spontaneous, which is a living process - it's a living process of your evolution. Now, by the way, how did we become human beings? Do we know? And how do we become a super human being? If there is a way, there's a method, you don't have to spend anything. But you have to grow. If you don't grow, it's useless, as Christ has described, just as some seeds fell onto the land which was not fertile. Is it so? Are we living in a land which is not fertile for spirituality or we are running after some things which are illusive? Why should we run after illusive things? Here, you get the experience, all right, after that you must grow. If you grow, you can change this world - it's a global movement. Like in Russia, I would say, there are millions, millions in Russia. While in India, too, we have may be millions. And also Austria - so many countries have got it - Italy, imagine. Their people have awakened, so why not in England? And the leaders of England are rather upset with the English. They think this... " It doesn't work out, Mother. " I can't understand. Because this is the seventh time I'm here, and seventh heavens you have to know, that you can know without any difficulties, without paying anything, the whole knowledge is free! Is it because it is free you don't care? They've asked Me to talk about it. Otherwise it's not worth talking about these things. Your country as such is like really the heart and it circulates all over the world. All your newspapers - they may be useless - but they circulate. All your media - whatever they may publish - it circulates all over the world. You don't know about Americans, though it's supposed to be a very great country. We don't know about any other country so much as we know about England. How? Why? Monarchy in so many places, but we know everything about monarchy from England. Why? How? How do we manage? Is worth asking this question: there's something special about this country. I lived here for years, I've worked hard, I went from North to South, East to West. Perhaps, I left no city which I did not visit. But the situation is such that when they get Realization, they are very happy, they start jumping, and after that they forget about it. It's a great responsibility on people of UK that they can do so much in spirituality. Not...it's not something also so cheap that it can be sold, it's invaluable. It's invaluable. It's your right to get it. And also it's your sensibility that you should grow into it. For example, in England, when I first came, I had to deal with the drug addicts, they were the first who came. Perhaps, they were seeking in drugs the Truth. When they came, overnight they gave up their drugs - overnight - even alcohol - people gave up overnight, overnight. Believe Me, they are here now, I know they are sitting here. Now, this is the minimum, and so many people got cured. I really wanted that something should be written about the miracles of Sahaja Yoga. So I told one gentleman, Englishman he is, he wrote to Me " Mother, it's not even one month, from both the sides, all the letters have gone up over my head. I don't know how to select. So, can you give me some time? Myself, I have no time at all. You can select yourself. " With all this, why don't you experiment and why don't you grow? You are very important, this is what you don't understand: that you have been born in this country or you have come to this country - whatever it is - it is a very important, significant place and a life of yours. But you should understand that it's very important and that you should grow. But it is beyond Me to understand that in a place like Austria, in a place like Italy, how is it, they have understood it and they're automatically working it out? I, you know, I have crossed My 75 years of age and I don't know how long I will have to live to face the English people and how will they understand! Sometimes, it's beyond Me. But now you will know that it is a science and the scientists have said that they have seen the cosmic energy emitted out of My head. That's a fact that Sahaja Yogis know. Sahaja Yogis know, they have felt it, they have got this experience. For them, it's nothing new - not through science - but they have known it as an experience. Now for you... You are also very well-educated people, everywhere, you are respected very much, it is for you now to evaluate your own personality and understand: Why are you on this earth? What is the purpose? So many of you got Realization last time, but you are nowhere, you've done nothing... I mean, you've got your Realization, all right. Each person can give Realization to thousands of people if he gets out of his own, I should say, own ideas. And this can do such a lot of good to the whole world. Formerly, in America it was terrible, because all kinds of funny people went there, to make money. So, they told Me " If you don't ask for money, Mother, in America nobody will come. They have to pay for it, otherwise they don't value it. " I said " But, sorry, you cannot, how much, you tell Me how much should I charge. How much do you charge for your mother's love? Then you tell Me how much you charge and then we can work it out. " And it was surprising that it hit their heads. Now it's better. Same thing, I have to request that, please, find out, when you have this experience of Kundalini awakening that you are a chosen person for a special work. For example now, this instrument, if it is not connected to the mains, what is the identification, what is the purpose? That's why then people become hippies, they become this, then punks - because they have no identification. But the identification is only one: that you are the Spirit, that's the Truth. And it has to happen to you, that you are the Spirit, you have the power of the Spirit. In the light of the Spirit you start seeing, start seeing and understanding so well about all the problems that are in the whole world and your own problems also. It's not only Self knowledge but also global knowledge of a very subtle nature. And that is all is within you, all this horizon is there waiting for you to greet it. But I don't know why people have no confidence or no understanding. Anything can be done, but first of all you must have the pure desire to become that. Forget about everything else. For example, this power of, which resides in the triangular bone. This bone is called as Sacrum, means the Greeks also knew that this is a sacred bone. This power is of pure desire. And if you have the pure desire you can become so dynamically aware of yourself and aware of everything. I was surprised that in a far-fetched place like Russia we have to always take a stadium, you can't do it in this hall, you cannot manage, I think. How is it, in that country it is working? Because of communism, perhaps. They were so oppressed, that all the search started going inside. But just in such a short time, I was surprised, these people, how did they get it and how did they develop and they are still developing, all of them are developing. And only I am the person allowed in Russia now to go and preach - this is also another thing. This ignorance that we have, the problems we have - physical problems, mental problems - it will all be controlled. Now there's a new disease, as you know, Alzheimer. How it comes? If a person is extremely aggressive and torturing people, doing this. When he gets old, his brain deviates and only that bad stuff start working and that person who is suffering is not aware of it. And you cannot cure it, also. But in the lifetime, if you get your Realization and you become absolutely peaceful within yourself, such diseases cannot touch you, they cannot disturb you and you become a loving beautiful person. You don't bother about what he earns, what the other person has got a personality, this, that, nothing. It's just a subtle love you feel for everyone. For everyone, whatever religion he may belong, whatever country he may belong, whatever problems he may have. Can you believe in a place, in a country like Turkey Sahaja Yoga sparked like this. There are two thousand Turkish people who are meditating and their Prime Minister's wife came to see Me, just to get her Realisation. Now, what is so great about? They say Ataturk was their leader and it is the one who has led the path. Why? You had such great people: William Blake and so many... Shakespeare, this, that - they were all realized souls. Their poetry is not just to read, but to read between the lines what they are saying. It is very important now, I request you, at the end of this century, that once you get your Realization here, please, grow, become more collective. Certain funny-funny ideas I heard and I was surprised - that the hall is not all right, and that... - there's nothing to do. It's something that happens inside you, something that works inside and gives you that beautiful feeling of being the Self. As a result, your health improves, you become mentally a very satisfied and a very balanced person, all your stress, this and that disappears. Thirdly, you look much younger than what you are, because inside you are younger. Fourthly, you understand others, you love others, love to do things for others and all these stupid problems of fighting with these, taking revenge on the person, killing somebody - this all disappears. That with the name of God all these stupid ideas, which has created the global problem, will disappear. The time has come and it is the Last Judgement. I think, the levels are changing: those who are chosen, I should say, this path of Divine love are going higher and others, who are negative, are going downward, they are getting exposed, everywhere, they are getting exposed. They'll be exposed. That is for you to decide which way you want to move, what you want to have. I think, this is the first time I am saying this to you, I've never said this way. I told you what you are - you are so great, this, that and this, that - but despite that, if you don't realize your value is wasted. So when you become the Spirit, then everything changes for you. I am surprised how people start understanding the follies of their brothers and sisters, who are forming a big society, things like that. For example, they give up drinking. When they give up drinking in France, Sahaja Yogis were thought to be mad - because how can you do without drinking? And now the French are taking to Sahaja Yoga very much. Imagine, French are much more than they are here. And they are saving money because they are not wasting on anything: no drugs, no smoking, no drinking. But we don't say " Don't do it! ", because otherwise half of you will go away, but it just happens to you. For example, if there is light, you can see everything clearly: whatever is destructive, you just don't do it. But whatever is constructive we accept and work it out. Such love and such affection. For example, these people who were singing, they're from all over the world, they are not only British. Especially the British, very difficult to learn Indian language, it's impossible. And look at them how they are singing. And not only that, but singing Indian classical music, which is a very difficult thing. I didn't teach them. It's very surprising, how things work out. So many artists I know, who have earned the world fame with Sahaja Yoga. But we have an Academy and so many foreign boys went there and studied Indian music. I was amazed: in three months they were singing Malkaus raga with all elaborations. Impossible! How can they do all that? Also there's one boy I know - he was hardly fourteen years of age when he came to Me - and within one year's time he is a great violonist, he plays Mozart without seeing any papers, anything. How can do it? He was not like that. And he writes such beautiful poetry. You can't believe it! I asked him " When did you start? " - " After seeing You, Mother, I don't know why I'm writing. " I have seen people, who are scientists have become poets. Can't understand, how your sleeping - or I would say - dormant qualities just come out. You don't run after success, you don't run after competition, but automatically it happens. For that you don't have to worry " I am old, how can it happen? " - nothing. At any age it can happen to you. At any time it can happen to you. So don't doubt about yourself also. Then you become a very loving sweet person, very sensible and dignified. You don't insult others, don't trouble others, but you help, you share the difficulties of others. Suddenly you find, you've become a part and parcel of a great collective which is working in the whole world. It is very surprising, how you have brothers and sisters all over the world and wherever you go, they'll give their life for you. Have you seen such a family anywhere? Beautiful people! So, I have to make a request to you. Today, of course, I'll try to give you Self-Realisation, if possible, it works out. But you must respect, you must respect and you must grow. All the saints have talked about it in India. Now, we have here lots of people from, say, Punjab, the Sikhs are there. And all these books have been described for Sahaj. He himself, Guru Nanaka said " Sahaja samadhi laago ". He has used this word, all of them have used this word. But Indians who are here, I don't know, they are... they say " We cannot digest Sahaja Yoga. " They can only digest pounds, I think. Very surprising. It's very surprising how this materialism has come over. But does it give happiness to anyone? Does it give joy, does it give friendship? Full of jealousy, competition - all nonsense is going on. You overcome all that just like this, you enjoy, everything. If somebody has a good furniture, all right, this is a very nice carpet, all right, so what you do, you look at it, you enjoy. You enjoy whatever is created beautiful. You don't think about it, you don't react. The reaction is that there's joy. What a beauty it is! You don't think who has made it, how much it will cost, nothing. You become thoughtless. And thoughtless awareness is nothing but such a pouring sense of joy. Joy which is neither happiness or unhappiness, but singular. You cannot describe it in words but you can really feel it inside yourself, that joy of being the Self. And that's the time has come for you to get it. You are also here for that and this is the special time when it is going to work out. Now you feel also a collective consciousness, that you can feel on your fingertips the chakras, the centres of other people and who is the other? On your centres you can feel your problems, in the same way you can see the problems of others. If you can cure your own centres, you can easily cure the centres of others. Without any money, without any fuss, without anything. It's very, very simple, it is all built-in within you. All this is built-in within you and this built-in power starts working. You don't have to do anything. It's all there, for example you see so many lights are here: you switch on and you get all the lights. But you know how to switch on: it's all built-in. Again I say, you don't have to stand on your heads, you don't have to break your necks, nothing. As you are you are wonderful. And this is your own individual mother: She is your own, She has no other child, and She knows everything about you. As you have in the tape, you see: She knows your past, She knows your aspirations, She knows you very well and She is the one who is going to give your second birth. She is your mother. She loves you. Now there are books saying that if you have the Kundalini, She disturbs you, it is the modern ones. Well, they say that "burns you". She is your mother. Have you heard, I mean maybe in these modern times everything is possible, but can a mother burn her own child? She has been waiting for ages to give you this Realization. For ages She is within you and now you don't give Her a chance to give you a second birth? How can that be? You will understand that all these great incarnations who came on this earth have helped to build up this. They are all there within you, on these centres, which you'll find out. And all these fights going on stupidly in the name of God or anything is nonsense because they are all one. We are only fighting. So all your global problems, all your fighting problems, all your family problems and the word "problems" disappears. It happens. It must happen, because you are specially blessed, and you are the Spirit. This collectiveness gives you the feeling of oneness with others. Not out of jealousy, not out of greed, not out of any carnal love or anything, but it is just pure love, pure love which you have not experienced. All the perversions drop out... But you don't become sort of an abnormal person on the street, you see, walking with your closed eyes, no. You become an enlightened person, absolutely normal. You dress up normally outside, you can live with your life. But then you understand what is your dignity, your decency and everything. There's no show outside of your achievement but you know within yourself. You also know who is a Realised soul and then you meet. There's such a connection. Has been always, but now it becomes obvious, evident and you can work it out. The most important thing is that your brain opens out like this, like a lotus. It opens out. All the problems of brain drop out. How many diseases there are of brain, I wanted to know, so there's such a big book. I said, "My Goodness, more than the petals we have in the brain". And it can happen to anybody in the modern times. It's very common, it's awaiting at your door, sort. All this can be solved, absolutely you can be saved, you can be protected. And every time you will be feeling this: you are protected, there is somebody to protect you, to encourage you, to look after. Who is that? That is this Param Chaitanya. That is this, they call it Ruh, they call it the All-pervading Power of Divine Love, they also call it the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost, as you feel a cool breeze on your fingertips. It's all written there in all the books, but symbolically, so people don't understand. Once it happens, then you are in another world. Such miracles, such help and such protection! It's a thing where you feel, you can never be drowned in the ocean of this mad world, because now you are in the Ocean of joy. You are enjoying and this is what you have to have. But you must grow, all of you must grow. I am staying on for one day more just to come to follow-up meeting. Also if you have any complaints you better bring them. But there is nothing to complain actually, you should complain against yourself. Either you are lazy, or you are too enthusiastic or you are infatuated by some sort of a nonsensical guru or something is there. Just don't try to criticize others but see for yourself, introspect: why is it, why can't I do it? All this can work out, I assure you. I assure you very much that you should realize that My coming to England, living here for years together. I didn't come for Sahaja Yoga. I came because My husband got a job here. And then, seeing people in England, I thought, they can really achieve a lot. May God bless you all! Derek is asking Me, "Better give them Realization." I know, they are ready to get it, but they have to grow, that's the point, I'm telling you. He feels quite helpless and he doesn't know what is the matter with them. I told him " You grow some beard, moustaches. " Maybe a better idea. Might be they're used to things like that. It's nothing external. It is the internal beauty that we have to know. Now, it's very simple. If it doesn't shock you, I'll tell you there are two, three conditions.The first one is you have to take out your shoes, if it doesn't shock. Because this Mother Earth helps us a lot - She absorbs all our problems. All right. Now, the second condition is - which is also not very absurd - that please don't feel guilty about anything. It's a fashion: "I'm very guilty." - "Why are you guilty?" - "No, I've to confess - I am very guilty." - "About what?" - "You know, the other day I was eating the food and I was holding knife on the right hand." - finished. These norms are human beings have created this kind of stupid things for which you should feel guilty. And that this center here, on the left hand side, you get spondylitis, also angina, it's a fact - so, not to feel guilty! What are you guilty about? If you were guilty, you would have been in jail, not here. So, please, first of all, forgive yourself completely. You are not guilty, I assure you. There's a new evolution with people's mind that they should feel guilty - finished. If you are guilty, when it happens, you should have done something about it, forget it. Why are you carrying that load on your left Vishuddhi, here? This is the second one. And the third one is - I think, is also very simple - is to forgive yourself, as I said, and forgive others. Now, you say " Mother, we can't, just we can't, it's very difficult. " But try to understand the logic: whether you forgive or don't forgive, what do you do? Nothing, just the same. But say, if you don't forgive, then what happens: you play into wrong hands, you torture yourself. So, just say in your heart " Mother, I forgive myself fully, I forgive others fully " - whether they are in your mind or not, just say that and your this center will open now in no time. This will all help Me a lot. These tree things are very important and I know you can get your Realization in no time. So to put your hands like this towards Me, like this, just simple, as if you are asking for your Self realization, like this. Need not be higher, just whatever is comfortable. People can't believe that sitting in the hall, how can we get Realization? But you deserve it. You get it because that's the time, and because you are seekers. Don't doubt yourself, please. Have your hands like that. Now, you can close your eyes, if you want to. If you don't want to close, don't close your eyes. Because there is no mesmerism going on: at least, I close My eyes. Now, put the right hand towards Me, and put the left hand on top of your fontanel bone area.Now, you'll feel some cool or hot breeze, coming out of your fontanel bone area, which was a soft bone in your childhood. Don't put your hand on top of it, you have to put it away from you, and you can move the hand to see yourself. Don't say that you've got it unless and until you've got it. You are not to cheat ourselves, all right. Now, please, put your left hand towards Me and put the right hand on top of your head. You can bend your head, that's better if you bend your head, and with the right hand you see. Once more, please, put your right hand towards Me, and again with the left hand you see for yourself, if there's a cool or a hot breeze is coming. Now, don't doubt it: if it is coming, it is there. Could be hot, it will cool down. Can move up on the sides and see for yourself. Now, open your eyes and put your both the hands towards Me like this. Now, watch Me without thinking, without thinking, just try, you can do it. Ah? Now, raise your both the hands towards the sky like this, push back your head. And ask anyone of these three questions three times, anyone of them: First one " Mother, is this the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost? " - first question is " Is this the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost? " Second question is " Mother, is this the All-pervading Power of Divine love? " Third question is " Mother, is this the Ruh, or the Param Chaitanya? " Ask anyone of these questions three times in your heart. Now, again put down your hands, that's all. Now, put your hands like this towards Me, just like this. All those who have felt cool or hot breeze on their palms or on their fingertips or out of their fontanel bone area, please raise your both the hands. Just look at that! You're proving what I've said. Just look at that! Now, you've got it, now this is a responsibility to grow. May God bless you! May God bless you! Such a joy, such a happiness! I wish you best of luck and also wish you a very, very deep understanding of your being.

7/6/1998

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Public Program Day 2 at Holland Park School. London (England), 6 July 1998. I bow to all the seekers of truth. So many of you have already found out what is the truth, truth about yourself, that you are not this body, this mind, these emotions, this ego, conditionings, but you are the pure Spirit. After realizing that, not knowing but realizing that, when you become the Spirit your attention gets enlightened by the Spirit. And this enlightened attention is so intelligent. And as it is connected with this all-pervading Power, you'll be amazed that whatever you try to look at, to put your attention to, it just works. It is such a proof that you are one with this All-pervading divine Power. To prove that there is divine Power which is All-pervading, first you have to become the Realized soul, you have to become a person who is enlightened, as they call it Buddha. The word is Bodha; comes from enlightenment. And the one who is enlightened is a very different personality from what that person has been. You become a very powerful, no doubt very powerful; powerful in the sense is the power of love. Is not the power we know of, but is the power of love that acts, that works. And then you are amazed at yourself how you have been able to do so many things which you would never do. And how your personality becomes a very sensible, wise, and also absolutely in balance. Nobody has to tell you anything. You are your own master. But first you have to grow to that point. Till you become that, you are not yet empowered fully. But some people who are not yet understanding the importance of becoming, who do not know that they have to grow, become again useless, good for nothing. I always remember the parable of Christ. Yes, He tells that, "You are sprouted, but you are wasted." It has to grow. And that's what yesterday I insisted that you pay full value to your ascent. You look after yourself, and grow into it. Then you will know what is the power of love is. There is no ego about it. No, not at all. You don't feel the ego. What you feel is that it is flowing. It's flowing; wherever you go it's flowing. This power is flowing and that captures the whole atmosphere, the whole environment. If you people get your Realization, also all the global problems can be solved. Like you have got now very much pollution problem. The pollution gets settled down. This power of love can settle pollution because it also acts on the five elements. You'll be amazed how it acts on five elements. It works in such a manner that it should in every way encourage you, help you work out your programs, your ventures, your meetings; anything that you want to do is worked out in such a beautiful manner. There are so many examples of that in every day-to-day life for people have had. And they have been amazed how they've been helped; they've been brought to a new scene of complete control of the whole situation. You become the master, no doubt. But you don't have the arrogance, you don't have the anger of a master. To give an example I would say, now supposing I want to go somewhere or I want to meet somebody or something. About five minutes later I find the gentlemen walking here. So I would say, "How did you come?" He said, "I don't know why I felt like just coming to meet You." Because it's all interwoven, we don't know that we are not singled out. We are not something separate from this universe. We are a part and parcel of the whole. But this feeling of part and parcel of the whole is not mental, it's not just our understanding, but this is what you experience all the time. Even small things or big things, in every way you really realize how everything is helping you so much. Another example, I can give a very simple example that we had one function for which we needed some things and from a village away from Milan. So I said, "All right, how will you manage? Is this hardly any time? And you have to go to that village to get it, and it's in a factory so the person may not be able to locate." Suddenly a telephone came. A lady telephoned to Me, "Mother, I am going to such and such place. Do You need anything?" I was surprised, really. I said, "Yes, yes we need. But you don't know the place, how to reach there, it's quite complicated." So she said, "You tell me what You need." So I told her we need this thing from that factory. And can you imagine; it came in no time? I said, "How did you find the place?" She said, "Very surprising, I met a Sahaja Yogi when I came out of the building and he said, 'I've come to meet you.'" So she said, "But I have to go such and such place, and I don't know the place." He said, "I come from there. ["WHY BOCA?], I'll take you down." And that's how it all worked out in no time. And they were thinking. I said, "Don't worry. You don't have to worry, it will all work out." And the Sahaja Yogis who are here, who have been in Sahaja Yoga for days together can tell you thousand and one examples of this kind of small, small things. So even the small, small things are also done, of course the big things are also done. Like you pay attention to any country it works out, it changes its pattern, for example Iran. We have many Sahaja Yogis from Iran. And they were saying, "Mother, why is it not in Iran there is some improvement; it's getting from bad to worse?" I said, "You just meditate, it will work out." And they told Me now Iran is completely changed. They have become very open and they've become this, I was surprised. I used to think I'll go to Sri Lanka sometime. And I tried to go there, but it was not possible. I said, "Let it be. It's not wanted just now." So I went to Dubai where we had a program and got about thirty people from Sri Lanka who got Realization. And they decided to go to Sri Lanka and give Realization to people. I mean, just think of it. I mean, anything small or big, you do it in the name of God, in the name of this Power, it works. And you do not think of selfishness. You see like this: I would say we are sitting and asking God, "Give us this, give us that." After getting a realized personality you emit, you give, and you enjoy giving more than taking. This is what happens to you. And so many things like this people can tell you, on economic level or a political level and this level and that level. You are amazed how suddenly you get everything so easily, moreover you get a chance to give it to others. And to give it to others, itself is so joyous. For example, you saw these musicians. I don't think they knew anything about Indian music once upon a time, but now they are so happy to sing to you and to do this for you. It's very, very amazing that you become over powered by your own Self, in the sense that you enjoy your Self, really enjoy your Self, and while you see everything working out, so why worry? Why worry about the time? Never will you miss a train or miss an aeroplane. Take it from Me, it all works out in such a beautiful manner for day-to-day life. But spiritual life is even better when you are meditating, otherwise your attention is going here, there, there, there because you are not awakened, you are not enlightened. But after some time when you have really become a Sahaja Yogi and just close your eyes and then you will find you are in that blissful state where you get rid of all problems, all worrying things and you just become silent, thoughtlessly aware - which Jung has described very clearly, that you have to become thoughtlessly aware, means you go beyond the thinking mind. Now what does think in your head is your ego as I told you yesterday, or your conditioning, and you go on reacting to it all the time. But after getting Realization and after achieving that state, you don't react, you just watch, and that watching itself is very powerful. Your watching silently is very, very powerful and it works, it works wonders. I was thinking that all these things which are connected, you'll say now what is London, what is England? We don't know; where is it placed in the whole universe? What is the role of England in the whole cosmos? We don't know anything, but suddenly we realize that we are this and we are that. We are specially born in this place for a particular type of special work we have to do as an instrument of the Divine, not doing yourself something, but as the instrument. Like a painter, say, has a brush and he's, she's very nicely painting. It's the painter who is painting. But if the brush starts thinking, "I'm the one who is painting," it's stupidity. But this stupidity goes away. And you really feel you are in the hands of the painter, because you see beautiful things we've done, beautiful lives been carved out, how you meet beautiful people all over the world is the thing. Now we talk of peace, we talk of love, affection. These talks have been going on, but you don't find that love, you don't find that concern. First time I went to Russia and so many Germans came there and I was surprised. "How is it you are here?" "Why not Mother? So many of them were killed here by Germans, don't you think we are duty bound to come here to help?" "Yes, correct." But how they all arrived there, I was surprised. This time I went to Egypt, and in Egypt I was surprised many Israelis came. I said, "How are you here? What are you doing here?" They said, "Mother, after all, these are Muslims. We have to make friends with them. If there are Sahaja Yogis here, we'll have Muslim friends. What a thing it is!" Just imagine this love, this understanding! And this really filled Me with great joy. Look at these Israelis, recently they got their Realization, their country is still in a turmoil, and how they come here all the way to Egypt to make friends with the Muslims. We talk of friendship. We talk that we have to have we can say a very global understanding of each other, we should try to help each other. It doesn't work out because the man is still as it is in the state where he cannot see that we are part and parcel of the whole. But when a drop becomes the ocean, then it doesn't think it's a drop. It thinks it's a part of the ocean. In the same way once you grow up you become very collective. Now here also you don't know so many of them have come from other countries, why? Maybe you say, "Mother, to listen to You." No, also to support the people of London, the people of England, to get into this great force of love; is just felt that way. When they come to India we have programs where we have thousands of people and what I find there's no quarrelling, there's no fighting, there's no complain, no problem of any kind, there's no complaining of anything. If something goes wrong, they try to put it right together. They're always together and such love, such love they have. Now so many people living together in a far-fetched place where there are not so many amenities - nothing - so happily. Of course, they pull each other's legs that is true, have lot of fun together, but nobody I have seen have ever complained about another person as such. And if they do, then they realize that something wrong with them, something missing in them. So this wholesomeness we can call it, this oneness, this global commonness is so easily imbibed. You don't have to give lectures, it's just there. I know of a lady, she's a very, very deep person. She's French, and she went to Sicily for something. And there she met saw another lady sitting on the other corner. "She's not from France." When she saw her she felt that she's a realized soul because of the vibrations. So she got up and went to her directly and said," Are you a realized soul? Has Mother given you Realization?" "Yes, it's true," she said. "I also felt same way about you." And they met each other. Actually, this lady had gone first time to Sicily and she didn't know the language, but this lady immediately took her to her house and such. So you see, you meet suddenly a person, you know they're realized souls. You see it is so easy to make out in the past also, those who have been realized souls. I went to Turkey and I was surprised where they had so many of these Sufis. Sufi word comes from saf, saf means cleansing. They are very clean people though they are Muslims in the sense that they were born in Muslim families. But when I explained to them what Koran has said, and Mohammed Sahib cannot say these horrible things, and they were quite convinced. And they are now such a beautiful enlightened country I should say. And they are having a better relationships with other countries also. It is very amazing how these political problems, international problems can be solved if the people at the helm of affairs take to Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja Yoga is for the emancipation of all the humanity. It's not for one country, another country, one person, another person; is for the whole humanity. Now how many will come to this level is a different point, but if substantial number of people take to Sahaja Yoga, we can change the whole world, but substantial people should come together. There is no problem. You go to any country and you write to somebody or inform somebody or even telephone to somebody that you are a Sahaja Yogi, all the Sahaja Yogis will come round to help you. They are all your brothers and sisters, but they are not like these worldly brothers and sisters who are temporarily your brothers or they care for your property or this, nothing. They just want you. They just love you as you are a Sahaja Yogi. Such a big grace of these special people are coming up. I must say in England you had a great poet like William Blake who has announced that this will happen one day, and this is happening today. But you as English or British people have to realize is: this quarrels which are going on between Ireland and Scotland and this and this all will finish off, because it is working on wrong grounds. Once they discover that this is not proper, they'll stand on their legs and see for themselves that we are all one, not only in this country but in all the countries, we are all one. And this is what is going to happen in the collective consciousness. It is a consciousness I'm talking now, it's not just a lecture or mental attitude, "After all, we are all human beings." Not that way. It really happens with them. You become one with another person because it becomes your personality, it becomes identified with you. You don't have to argue it out, it just you are. You don't see anything which is different. Also you enjoy the variety of people, variety of dresses, variety of things, you enjoy. But to you everybody is in the same ocean of love, that they are just dancing and they are enjoying this ocean. If you are in the ocean and if there are waves, you are frightened of it. But supposing you get into a boat, then what happens to you? You enjoy the same waves no doubt. But supposing you know how to swim very well, you can jump into the water and save many people. That exactly what happens when you become your own masters. When you become your own masters, then you realize that you are much higher then others, without any arrogance, without any ego, but compassion. Is the compassion that makes you one with others. It's a thing to be understood in a very subtle way. Like Christ was there, all right. So look at His compassion. Such a compassionate person! How is it He said that "Oh God, please forgive them for they don't know what they are doing"? Is His capacity as a very great enlightened personality. You see it is not what you are doing some charity, is this, that - is not the point. The point is you become a charity. Yourself you are a charity. I've seen people who do charitable work, they go on taking the money, doing all kinds of nonsensical things. I can't understand how can they do it - because they're not enlightened. In the light of your Spirit, you don't do wrong things to others, you don't do wrong things in the politics, you'll not do wrong things in the economics. And all that has been described how you should be - you should be this, you should be that - automatically becomes a part and parcel of your personality. You are not to told that "don't eat this and don't eat that," you just don't see this thing, you don't see that, nothing of the kind. It is you only decide, it is only you have got these qualities in you, and your personality itself will emit such beautiful, peaceful vibrations all around wherever you are. Now as it is, when I first came to London, I was surprised that so many of people are taking to hippie life, they're taking to drugs. And I discovered they are not doing it because they want to get out of this world or anything of the kind, or as a matter of habit, but they were all seekers. They were all real seekers of truth. And they couldn't find it in the world that existed that time, so they took to this, and they were just driven into it. So first thing I tried was to get hold of them. And I was amazed how over night they gave up everything and how they became such good Sahaja Yogis, because you see they were doing it for seeking. Many people in seeking are lost also because they took to wrong type of gurus, or maybe they took to wrong type of things for their search. It's all right, doesn't matter, they'll be born again and they can get their Realization. But the people who are today in this country, more younger or older makes no different, are worthy of getting this Realization and this ascent and this special personality. They are worthy of it, but still, as I said yesterday, they are not yet aware what they are worthy of. It's not what jobs you have got, what parents you have got, what properties you have got, it's nothing important. What is important; what are you? Are you a realized soul or not? So many are getting Realization all over the world. As I told you in Russia really I was surprised, how these people have become so sensitive. First time I went to Leningrad, now they call it St. Petersburg. When I saw so many sitting outside I said, "Why are you not inside?" Now there the seats are limited and they sell the tickets; not the organizers but the hall people they sell. They said, "Now we can't go in because it's all full." I said, "Really? So what will you do?" I said, "Let Me finish the program, then we'll see." When I came out after forty-five minutes they were still there. I was amazed. There are two thousands people sitting inside, and two thousand people sitting outside. I said, "All right you come along tomorrow." Look at the tenacity of these people. "You come tomorrow and we'll have it in the open grounds." Surprising, Moscow is a place where there are lots of open spaces. So they came who were inside, one who were outside four, four thousand we can say, and also one thousand more. They all came. I was sitting outside. I was amazed, then I asked them, "How is it we didn't do much publicity and nothing, how is it you have come?" They said, "Mother we don't know, we felt," see this is what, "we just felt we have to come." And they did, just that feeling came into them. So how much deep they were, they were not superficial people, very deep, and they are still all of them there, and have multiplied, multiplied into... don't know how many thousands. See they said, "We just felt it." And it is very surprising, we are just given a small advertisement that's all, and how did they feel it? And how did they come? So this feeling also is very important, but that can be only when you are deep personality inside. If there is no depth, then doesn't work out. But they were at such a point where they just felt that they have to come to this program. So many people went there, so many gurus from India also, from America also. So many people went; none of them they accepted. See this sensitivity to spirituality. Also you can develop if you have depth. But I must say they have suffered a lot, they have suffered a lot. With this suffering I think they developed this depth within their heart and they could feel My love. And I mean, I cannot tell you how they are, it's amazing. Of course in India Sahaja Yoga is doing in a much wider scale I should say, much wider scale. But the way these Russians are, I mean they are so deep, so deep. Some Russians are in America. And what they told Me very surprisingly, they said, "Mother these American Sahaja Yogis are not really Sahaja Yogis." I said, "Why?" "No they're still you see not Sahaja Yogis." So I was wondering: look at these people. America I have been going for years together and why they are saying about these American Sahaja Yogis? Because that depth of seeking. They had found out they have no sense of possession. Their government told them that "All right we'll give you your own flats, you have them. We'll give you your own cars. We'll not run your cars and your flats." They said, "No, no, no, we don't want to have, you have it. We don't want to have a headache. Who is going to look after the car? Who is going to look after the flats? We don't know, you better have." Can you imagine? Here people run up and down for a flat or something, there they say, "We don't want." And even now they have not taken the flats in their own names, because they don't know how to look after them. I said, "We don't know." I mean very surprise. Of course there are at least forty percent people who are not of that level, but to have sixty percent people like that - the scientists, doctors, architects, all intellectuals of a very high quality. I was surprised to talk to architects, how they understand the [CAUSATIVE?] of the hall, how they understand how the house should be built. I think Leningrad is a place so beautifully built that it has none of the buildings have a backyard. No. They have a square in between, very beautiful. It's one of the most beautiful cities all over, not only in short places. Like Paris may be very beautiful, but in a very little place, a limited place. I was surprised how these people have been so much developed. Now what happened was that's what they told that they were aggressed by the Communism or by the people who were Communists, all kinds, specially Stalin and all that. And that's how they thought they should develop themselves within themselves and that's how they have become. But I whenever I read lots of these books of say Russian writers and I was surprised that introspection is the main thing they have discussed. If there's a hero then he would introspect himself - how is he compared to the heroin? With all their books are full of introspection. And because of this western civilization - whatever we may call it, the materialism - we are so much outside that we do not introspect. We have to introspect ourselves. Why are we on this earth, what is the purpose of our life, why should we be here? If you start introspecting, immediately you will find that we have not served the purpose of being human beings, to be evolved as human being. All right, you had evolved up to the human level, but that's not the end of it. If it was so, why there's so much problem? Why you cannot compromise with yourself? Why there's a fight going on between your head and your heart and your liver? Why are you fighting? What is the matter? Why can't you all be united within yourself at least? So there's something wrong; this connection has to be established. That's possible when you see these chakras, then the Kundalini passes through. And when She travels She passes through these centers just like you would put string into many beautiful pearls, you see it goes. And that's how the complete integration takes place. You`re completely integrated in yourself. You don't doubt yourself, there is no doubt. And you understand that whatever you are doing is the best thing. Your heart agrees. Your mind agrees. Your liver also agrees. Liver is the giver of your attention, and this attention becomes so beautiful. You start seeing in the subtle way the beauties of your doing, your working, your functions. Everything you understand in such a beautiful manner. You can never hate yourself. And you can not hate others also, because you can see the subtleties, because you have become a subtler being, and you can enter into their subtleties also. Of course, I do not say that all are like that, or all are capable. This I've now I accepted that all can not be and as I told you yesterday now there are two levels: one is going upward and one is going downward, doesn't matter, don't worry. What you have to see what you can do to go upward and enjoy the company of others who are on the same platform. This can happen to you because you're collectively conscious. You're looked after. You're protected. You're guided. You're loved. Above all this power knows who you are and how it runs to your help, you must see that. There are so many things I've said, there are so many lectures which I would like you to hear. I've told them that you must give them the tapes, it's very important. You must sell the tapes to them and take the minimum. And so they said, "No Mother, we used to take so much." I said, "No, make it half. And say 'for sale' if you want to, if that appeals to them." But you see these are beautiful, precious lectures which I've seen people in other countries use them while traveling long distances, and also otherwise for meditation, so many of them are working it out that way. So if you really are interested in yourself, interested in your ascent, interested in becoming one with the whole, to be in the Kingdom of God; then please take these tapes, listen to them, meditate on them. Meditation will become very much easier. You don't have to jump or do anything, like all kinds of funny meditations have started. You must have heard there are people who are trying to raise their body three feet height. For what, I don't understand. As it is, you see we have such problems of traffic, and these three feet height people... But still people do it because they think is something great to be flying three feet height. Nobody has done so far but that's what they claim. Every time they come out with a new thing, "Now this can happen to you, that can happen." Nothing of the kind. It is the experience of oneness. But some people are still not up to the point. I've seen them. They just still go on say, "Ah ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I felt so much better." What is it? You so much you felt better means what? Can you give Realization to other people? Can you raise their Kundalini? Can you cure yourself and can you cure others? That's the minimum you should be able to do, other what's the use of just describing that "This is my spiritual experience and I felt like..." I mean, all these things are not going to help in anyway. Why we should deceive ourselves? You see it's all right I must say these false people try to deceive you. But you are also deceiving yourself if you do not want to accept the reality. Reality is what you become, what your personality express, how you have changed. Otherwise it is idiotic to believe in such things, I think, sometimes when they tell you that this will happen, that will happen. Never have I seen anything good coming out of these things, but just a person lives in his stupidity. As it is we have to be alert, this is what we call is the Ghora Kali Yuga means these modern times are called as Ghora Kali Yuga, mean the worse time for human being. And you can see all kinds of things that are happening today never happened before. So this the worse time have come and we can any day fall a pray to it, it's a fact. I mean I've known people who have been very good people, suddenly I find they are absolutely lost - lost to themselves, lost to their family. So that must be according to Indian scriptures is Ghora Kali Yuga, and in this Ghora Kali Yuga you cannot find people who are deep, who are very selfish, who are very low level. I've seen many people come to Me for getting cured and getting better and all. Thousands have been cured with Sahaja Yoga, but they don't want to become Sahaja Yogis. Surprisingly somebody told Me, "Mother because we don't want to have the ego." I said, "Where is the question of ego?" "Because supposing we get self-realized, we'll have ego." I mean this is just a stupid excuse. Once you're a realized person, you don't get any ego, your ego finishes off. And if there is some problem - you see, I've seen many people came in the beginning to tell Me, "Mother my Agnya Chakra is catching." That means my ego is troubling me. You separate from your ego and you see for yourself that this is Mr. Ego is troubling me. And you want to get rid of it because gives you a headache. Normally the ego doesn't give headache, but then it starts giving you headache when you are a realized soul; you want to get rid of it. It's very simple that we have to understand ourselves, our beings, all these subtle things we must know. For that you don't have to go to any doctor, you don't have to ask any scientist to help you. You yourself will know what's wrong with you. In your being these centers are placed. You can see for yourself on your fingertips; you'll know what's wrong where. Today only I told that yesterday there were very many right-sided people - when people who assert themselves too much, who are dominating. So they were surprised, because normally the British are left-sided. Means they're all the time frightened people, very frightened because they dominated, I think, a few years back, or I should say about fifty years back they were dominating. Now they're afraid that "we'll be dominated, we'll become slaves." So it's the other way round. But I was, when I told they were happy at least their movement, there's some movement towards the right side. But this right and left side movement has to finish. You have to be in the center. And to come in the center, best thing is to meditate. For Sahaja Yogis it is very important to meditate. Meditate about ten minutes in the night and about five minutes in the morning, nothing much is to be done. In all these centers they will tell you how to do it. You don't have to do anything, hardly five to ten minutes if you can meditate; even in the night, it's all right. That's all time you have to give. But I've seen many people who don't do it. They just come for curing or this or that, and then they don't meditate. Then they cannot grow. The way you can grow is only through meditation and understanding. Somebody said, "Mother we cannot surrender." "But who asked you to surrender?" Don't have to surrender, but you have to meditate. If you go on meditating yourself you'll understand that you are the Spirit, that you are the powerful Spirit which is the reflection of God Almighty within us. And when it comes, you become a very different person, very different. Your face improves. Your skin improves. Your behavior improves. Your temperament improves. Best of all, you just start seeing what was wrong with you and you try to eradicate all that was wrong, just through meditation. You don't have to do anything. You don't have to condemn yourself, just with meditation you can work out. And I'm sure all of you are sitting here who have got their Realization can, if they all can work it out, this England will be a changed place, absolutely most blissful place. Also I've said a lot about England. I think once you come to Sahaja Yoga you will know all about it, what is its place and all that, and really enjoy that you are born in such an important country and that you are so important. And only thing that is lacking in you, that you did not find your identification. Once you find your identification, you'll be amazed and you'll be very happy that you're born in this country. The temperature is sometimes very cloudy, grey. I know. First time I came to London in the month of May and such wind it would, use to just penetrate into the bones you know. I said, "What sort of a country is this? There's a curse of the Goddess or what?" But then I realized this is all just to teach them a lesson. I think that nature wants them to understand and this is how they are playing. Because, you see, if the climate is such, you stay at home more and don't run away from families, don't run away from your wives or husbands, you stay at home. This is one of the things that has worked here and that's why I think the English are better than Americans, because American are always on the run. Now to settle down into your own homes this is a more ideal, I should say ideal thing to happen, but that is not the end of it. When you meditate you'll surprise, within yourself lies such beautiful atmosphere of such joy, happiness, and peace. Ultimately you get the experience of joy. And joy as I told you is singular, and that experience of joy is so beautiful. In everything that is - supposing there is something ridiculous, also you enjoy the ridiculousness of that thing. If something is beautiful, you enjoy the beauty of that. So, the sense of enjoyment is so beautiful. And if you are all together you enjoy it even more, because it somehow or other hits the heart of other people also, and you enjoy their joy. It's like this enjoying their own joy. It's a beautiful state in which you all have to go. I've told you, seven times we had this big hall, Albert Hall. Every time I came, they were there. Maybe because I don't know what happens, when I'm there they are there, but later on they go on disappearing. So now I've told them that "You give them tapes at half rate, doesn't matter." You please listen to those tapes and try to grow, because you're all intelligent people, alert. These are special times when you have to really respect yourself. It's very important time and you have to grow. Very important it is that you have to grow, whatever may be your religion, may be your caste, community or may be your country; you all have to grow together and to know that you are one with each other. May God bless you! Shri Mataji: What is the next program? Derek Lee: Shri Mataji we could sing more bhajans if You would like. If You'd like, we could sing more bhajans now. Shri Mataji: All right. I'll be pleased. Yesterday's bhajan that they sang a - was the last bhajan, is written in the sixteenth century by a very famous poet called as Namadeva. Now this Namadeva has written this beautiful poem and in that he's asking, "Oh Mother, give me the Yoga, give me the union with the Divine." And he calls this Mother, the Kundalini, as Jagadamba. So she said, "Ambe You rise, You rise, You rise." This, see, they have been singing for ages in our villages but they don't know what they're singing, what they're asking. And when these Sahaja Yogis went to some villages there in Maharashtra, they got hold of these people and asked them. They wrote it down, the whole thing, and that's how they have got this song with them. So this great Namadeva was just a, he was tailor. And he went to meet another realized soul whose name who was just a potter, and he was kneading the clay. When he was kneading the clay he stood before him, Namadeva to protect him, and he says in Marathi language very beautifully that "I came to see the Chaitanya, the vibrations, but it is in person, is in your person it is there." I mean only a realized soul can appreciate another realized soul I think and enjoy - not jealousy, not competition but the enjoyment that "See, there's another one." But he says, "You are the Incarnation." So, look at the understanding between these two great soul! Then this Namadeva went to Punjab where he met Guru Nanak. Guru Nanak immediately recognized him and He told him, "Why don't you learn Punjabi language?" He learned Punjabi language within one year's time, it's an easy language. But then he has written such a big book, such a big book on Kundalini, on Realization. All these things are written in the Granthsahib by Nanak Sahib. But if you just read Granthsahib, how can you reach the truth? That's what it is. They all tried their level best to give you the best, every one of them. But somehow or other it could not be imbibed, and there was no question of people asking for Realization. So now it's very different. You all can have your Realization. You can read all these poets and poetry, and you can understand that they are saying what you feel within yourself. Such oneness you'll feel in literature, in art, in everything. It's one world I'm talking about, one world of Divinity. May God bless you! Shri Mataji: So any another bhajan, which one they would like to sing? Derek Lee: Shri Mataji many of these people were not at the Albert Hall. Many of the people here were not at the Albert Hall, Mother, so they may not have felt the Cool Breeze. Shri Mataji: Is it? You think. I thought you are all Realized souls already. How did you get them here? I don't know. Are they afraid of the Albert Hall or what? All right. So, I think we can try that again. Just put your hands towards Me like that. Just take out my shoes and it's all right. You have to take out your shoes, that's all. Now as I said yesterday that another simple thing is that you have to forgive yourself. As it is you know it's a fashion to feel guilty for everything. I don't know how it has started, but to feel guilty, it's a fashion. Say sorry. Formally on the telephone we used to say, "I beg your pardon," all right? Nowadays they say, "Sorry." Sorry for what? So this sorryness is too much. Now don't be sorry for anything here. You shouldn't feel sorry in any way. Don't feel guilty. You have done nothing wrong, believe Me. It's all nonsense that you must have read some novel or might have read some I don't know what that you have to feel guilty. You are not sinners by any chance, take it from Me. They're not sinners. It's all just money-making propositions, I think to say, "You're all sinners, you give us money so all your sins will be washed off." I don't know they also give guarantee card [?] said. So all these gimmicks you must understand, it has nothing to do with reality. So just in your heart you believe Me that you are not sinners, not to feel guilty for small, small things. Our norms are so much that you can feel guilty for anything. Say you spilled coffee, finished. All your life you are bothered that I spilled coffee. I mean coffee is to be spilled only. I don't understand. So these stupid nonsensical norms that we have adopted are really responsible for creating this feeling of guilt within us also. Also, all funny ideas you read, the books you read and things you read, because you are on the way of righteousness, you are on the way of reality, so you start saying, "Oh my God, I did this! I should not have done it." It's all right. Forget it. If you have done anything wrong at that moment only you should neutralize it. But don't carry the load all your life on your Left Vishuddhi. Is a very dangerous thing because you develop spondylitis, if not that you can develop angina. So this is a very important center and don't feel guilty for no fault of yours. So this is another very simple condition. And the third one is as you forgive yourself for everything, you should forgive others also. Because yesterday I told you whether you forgive or don't forgive you don't do anything. But if you don't forgive others then you are playing into wrong hands. So just say, "I forgive everyone," which is very important; because here people believe that how can I forgive, it's very difficult. What is difficult? Nothing. Just have to say, "Mother, I forgive everyone," finished. Once for all you say that and you'll be surprised. this center will open out. Without these two centers opening up, the Kundalini cannot pierce through. So just help yourself with these two things just in your heart you have to say. Now in your hands just see, watch what's happening on your hands. As I told you yesterday, all these fingers are activated when you get your Realization or vibrations, because these are all centers of the sympathetic nervous system endings. And in these centers what you find is that these are centers on the right hand side are for your physical and mental being. Left hand side are for your emotional being. So you can see these five centers, six and seven, this is the seventh center, which is here in the head in the limbic area. So you have these seven centers and you start feeling on these seven centers the vibrations, the Divine Power, to see that. Now one scientist in Russia I told you yesterday has found out through his calculations and mathematical things from My photograph that, according to him, I am the source of this Cosmic Energy. I don't know what to say, but whatever it is you just feel it yourself on your fingertips, just feel it. A cool breeze or a hot breeze will be coming. Now you... [What's this signal? No one knows. All right.] Put the right hand like this and put the left hand on top of the fontanel bone area, through which the Kundalini pierces through. You can bend your head, better. And now see for yourself if there's a cool or a hot breeze coming out of heads. If it is hot, nothing to worry, that means some correction is needed, but maybe it might cool down just now. Put your right hand towards Me, bend your head and see with your left hand. Not touch the head, keep it away and see for yourself. You can move your hand from left to right. If you have not forgiven yourself or others there will be hot breeze coming in. It should be Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost. So now see for yourself. It's called as Ruh, or it's called also as Paramachaitanya. Now put your left hand towards Me. Now put down your head and see with your right hand now. Bend your head and see from your right hand. You can raise it; you can move it and see for yourself if there's a cool or hot breeze coming out of it. Once more you put your right hand towards Me and see with the left hand. All right, now please put both your hands towards Me and watch Me without thinking, just without thinking, you can do it without thinking. Now, now you can raise your both the hands towards the sky like this, bend back your head and ask a question, any one of these questions three questions ask one of them, three times in your heart, three times. You can ask, "Mother is this the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost?" Second question, "Is this the all-pervading Power of Divine Love?" Third question, "Is this the Paramachaitanya?" Any one of these questions you have to ask only three times, that's all. Now take it down. All those who have felt cool or hot breeze on the fingertips, or on the palms, or out of the fontanel bone area, please raise all your hands. See now. My God, see all of them. May God bless you! May God bless you! Bless you! I think this is a better place than Albert Hall. Maybe you have all kinds of programs there, maybe that's the reason. I don't know but I like this place very well, this works very fast. So this is what you have felt for the first time you have felt this all-pervading Power of Divine Love. You felt it, but now you have to grow into it. That is just permanently part of parcel of your being, that's the growing part we lag behind, and because of then they have many problems. Say today I have cured somebody; again he comes back, "Mother now I have this disease." "All right, did you meditate?" "No." Then comes back again, "Mother I have this problem." "Did you meditate?" "No." So what I'm saying I go on like this working on this madcap who doesn't understand that only meditation will keep him in the center, will keep him all right, keep him wise. If you cannot meditate what can I do? It is a very simple thing. You don't have to pay for it. It's very, very simple. So unless and until you meditate I cannot help you. You have to grow. You have to grow, that's very important. So,may God bless you! Derek,you got all of them.

Public Program Day 2 at Holland Park School. London (England), 6 July 1998. I bow to all the seekers of truth. So many of you have already found out what is the truth, truth about yourself, that you are not this body, this mind, these emotions, this ego, conditionings, but you are the pure Spirit. After realizing that, not knowing but realizing that, when you become the Spirit your attention gets enlightened by the Spirit. And this enlightened attention is so intelligent. And as it is connected with this all-pervading Power, you'll be amazed that whatever you try to look at, to put your attention to, it just works. It is such a proof that you are one with this All-pervading divine Power. To prove that there is divine Power which is All-pervading, first you have to become the Realized soul, you have to become a person who is enlightened, as they call it Buddha. The word is Bodha; comes from enlightenment. And the one who is enlightened is a very different personality from what that person has been. You become a very powerful, no doubt very powerful; powerful in the sense is the power of love. Is not the power we know of, but is the power of love that acts, that works. And then you are amazed at yourself how you have been able to do so many things which you would never do. And how your personality becomes a very sensible, wise, and also absolutely in balance. Nobody has to tell you anything. You are your own master. But first you have to grow to that point. Till you become that, you are not yet empowered fully. But some people who are not yet understanding the importance of becoming, who do not know that they have to grow, become again useless, good for nothing. I always remember the parable of Christ. Yes, He tells that, "You are sprouted, but you are wasted." It has to grow. And that's what yesterday I insisted that you pay full value to your ascent. You look after yourself, and grow into it. Then you will know what is the power of love is. There is no ego about it. No, not at all. You don't feel the ego. What you feel is that it is flowing. It's flowing; wherever you go it's flowing. This power is flowing and that captures the whole atmosphere, the whole environment. If you people get your Realization, also all the global problems can be solved. Like you have got now very much pollution problem. The pollution gets settled down. This power of love can settle pollution because it also acts on the five elements. You'll be amazed how it acts on five elements. It works in such a manner that it should in every way encourage you, help you work out your programs, your ventures, your meetings; anything that you want to do is worked out in such a beautiful manner. There are so many examples of that in every day-to-day life for people have had. And they have been amazed how they've been helped; they've been brought to a new scene of complete control of the whole situation. You become the master, no doubt. But you don't have the arrogance, you don't have the anger of a master. To give an example I would say, now supposing I want to go somewhere or I want to meet somebody or something. About five minutes later I find the gentlemen walking here. So I would say, "How did you come?" He said, "I don't know why I felt like just coming to meet You." Because it's all interwoven, we don't know that we are not singled out. We are not something separate from this universe. We are a part and parcel of the whole. But this feeling of part and parcel of the whole is not mental, it's not just our understanding, but this is what you experience all the time. Even small things or big things, in every way you really realize how everything is helping you so much. Another example, I can give a very simple example that we had one function for which we needed some things and from a village away from Milan. So I said, "All right, how will you manage? Is this hardly any time? And you have to go to that village to get it, and it's in a factory so the person may not be able to locate." Suddenly a telephone came. A lady telephoned to Me, "Mother, I am going to such and such place. Do You need anything?" I was surprised, really. I said, "Yes, yes we need. But you don't know the place, how to reach there, it's quite complicated." So she said, "You tell me what You need." So I told her we need this thing from that factory. And can you imagine; it came in no time? I said, "How did you find the place?" She said, "Very surprising, I met a Sahaja Yogi when I came out of the building and he said, 'I've come to meet you.'" So she said, "But I have to go such and such place, and I don't know the place." He said, "I come from there. ["WHY BOCA?], I'll take you down." And that's how it all worked out in no time. And they were thinking. I said, "Don't worry. You don't have to worry, it will all work out." And the Sahaja Yogis who are here, who have been in Sahaja Yoga for days together can tell you thousand and one examples of this kind of small, small things. So even the small, small things are also done, of course the big things are also done. Like you pay attention to any country it works out, it changes its pattern, for example Iran. We have many Sahaja Yogis from Iran. And they were saying, "Mother, why is it not in Iran there is some improvement; it's getting from bad to worse?" I said, "You just meditate, it will work out." And they told Me now Iran is completely changed. They have become very open and they've become this, I was surprised. I used to think I'll go to Sri Lanka sometime. And I tried to go there, but it was not possible. I said, "Let it be. It's not wanted just now." So I went to Dubai where we had a program and got about thirty people from Sri Lanka who got Realization. And they decided to go to Sri Lanka and give Realization to people. I mean, just think of it. I mean, anything small or big, you do it in the name of God, in the name of this Power, it works. And you do not think of selfishness. You see like this: I would say we are sitting and asking God, "Give us this, give us that." After getting a realized personality you emit, you give, and you enjoy giving more than taking. This is what happens to you. And so many things like this people can tell you, on economic level or a political level and this level and that level. You are amazed how suddenly you get everything so easily, moreover you get a chance to give it to others. And to give it to others, itself is so joyous. For example, you saw these musicians. I don't think they knew anything about Indian music once upon a time, but now they are so happy to sing to you and to do this for you. It's very, very amazing that you become over powered by your own Self, in the sense that you enjoy your Self, really enjoy your Self, and while you see everything working out, so why worry? Why worry about the time? Never will you miss a train or miss an aeroplane. Take it from Me, it all works out in such a beautiful manner for day-to-day life. But spiritual life is even better when you are meditating, otherwise your attention is going here, there, there, there because you are not awakened, you are not enlightened. But after some time when you have really become a Sahaja Yogi and just close your eyes and then you will find you are in that blissful state where you get rid of all problems, all worrying things and you just become silent, thoughtlessly aware - which Jung has described very clearly, that you have to become thoughtlessly aware, means you go beyond the thinking mind. Now what does think in your head is your ego as I told you yesterday, or your conditioning, and you go on reacting to it all the time. But after getting Realization and after achieving that state, you don't react, you just watch, and that watching itself is very powerful. Your watching silently is very, very powerful and it works, it works wonders. I was thinking that all these things which are connected, you'll say now what is London, what is England? We don't know; where is it placed in the whole universe? What is the role of England in the whole cosmos? We don't know anything, but suddenly we realize that we are this and we are that. We are specially born in this place for a particular type of special work we have to do as an instrument of the Divine, not doing yourself something, but as the instrument. Like a painter, say, has a brush and he's, she's very nicely painting. It's the painter who is painting. But if the brush starts thinking, "I'm the one who is painting," it's stupidity. But this stupidity goes away. And you really feel you are in the hands of the painter, because you see beautiful things we've done, beautiful lives been carved out, how you meet beautiful people all over the world is the thing. Now we talk of peace, we talk of love, affection. These talks have been going on, but you don't find that love, you don't find that concern. First time I went to Russia and so many Germans came there and I was surprised. "How is it you are here?" "Why not Mother? So many of them were killed here by Germans, don't you think we are duty bound to come here to help?" "Yes, correct." But how they all arrived there, I was surprised. This time I went to Egypt, and in Egypt I was surprised many Israelis came. I said, "How are you here? What are you doing here?" They said, "Mother, after all, these are Muslims. We have to make friends with them. If there are Sahaja Yogis here, we'll have Muslim friends. What a thing it is!" Just imagine this love, this understanding! And this really filled Me with great joy. Look at these Israelis, recently they got their Realization, their country is still in a turmoil, and how they come here all the way to Egypt to make friends with the Muslims. We talk of friendship. We talk that we have to have we can say a very global understanding of each other, we should try to help each other. It doesn't work out because the man is still as it is in the state where he cannot see that we are part and parcel of the whole. But when a drop becomes the ocean, then it doesn't think it's a drop. It thinks it's a part of the ocean. In the same way once you grow up you become very collective. Now here also you don't know so many of them have come from other countries, why? Maybe you say, "Mother, to listen to You." No, also to support the people of London, the people of England, to get into this great force of love; is just felt that way. When they come to India we have programs where we have thousands of people and what I find there's no quarrelling, there's no fighting, there's no complain, no problem of any kind, there's no complaining of anything. If something goes wrong, they try to put it right together. They're always together and such love, such love they have. Now so many people living together in a far-fetched place where there are not so many amenities - nothing - so happily. Of course, they pull each other's legs that is true, have lot of fun together, but nobody I have seen have ever complained about another person as such. And if they do, then they realize that something wrong with them, something missing in them. So this wholesomeness we can call it, this oneness, this global commonness is so easily imbibed. You don't have to give lectures, it's just there. I know of a lady, she's a very, very deep person. She's French, and she went to Sicily for something. And there she met saw another lady sitting on the other corner. "She's not from France." When she saw her she felt that she's a realized soul because of the vibrations. So she got up and went to her directly and said," Are you a realized soul? Has Mother given you Realization?" "Yes, it's true," she said. "I also felt same way about you." And they met each other. Actually, this lady had gone first time to Sicily and she didn't know the language, but this lady immediately took her to her house and such. So you see, you meet suddenly a person, you know they're realized souls. You see it is so easy to make out in the past also, those who have been realized souls. I went to Turkey and I was surprised where they had so many of these Sufis. Sufi word comes from saf, saf means cleansing. They are very clean people though they are Muslims in the sense that they were born in Muslim families. But when I explained to them what Koran has said, and Mohammed Sahib cannot say these horrible things, and they were quite convinced. And they are now such a beautiful enlightened country I should say. And they are having a better relationships with other countries also. It is very amazing how these political problems, international problems can be solved if the people at the helm of affairs take to Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja Yoga is for the emancipation of all the humanity. It's not for one country, another country, one person, another person; is for the whole humanity. Now how many will come to this level is a different point, but if substantial number of people take to Sahaja Yoga, we can change the whole world, but substantial people should come together. There is no problem. You go to any country and you write to somebody or inform somebody or even telephone to somebody that you are a Sahaja Yogi, all the Sahaja Yogis will come round to help you. They are all your brothers and sisters, but they are not like these worldly brothers and sisters who are temporarily your brothers or they care for your property or this, nothing. They just want you. They just love you as you are a Sahaja Yogi. Such a big grace of these special people are coming up. I must say in England you had a great poet like William Blake who has announced that this will happen one day, and this is happening today. But you as English or British people have to realize is: this quarrels which are going on between Ireland and Scotland and this and this all will finish off, because it is working on wrong grounds. Once they discover that this is not proper, they'll stand on their legs and see for themselves that we are all one, not only in this country but in all the countries, we are all one. And this is what is going to happen in the collective consciousness. It is a consciousness I'm talking now, it's not just a lecture or mental attitude, "After all, we are all human beings." Not that way. It really happens with them. You become one with another person because it becomes your personality, it becomes identified with you. You don't have to argue it out, it just you are. You don't see anything which is different. Also you enjoy the variety of people, variety of dresses, variety of things, you enjoy. But to you everybody is in the same ocean of love, that they are just dancing and they are enjoying this ocean. If you are in the ocean and if there are waves, you are frightened of it. But supposing you get into a boat, then what happens to you? You enjoy the same waves no doubt. But supposing you know how to swim very well, you can jump into the water and save many people. That exactly what happens when you become your own masters. When you become your own masters, then you realize that you are much higher then others, without any arrogance, without any ego, but compassion. Is the compassion that makes you one with others. It's a thing to be understood in a very subtle way. Like Christ was there, all right. So look at His compassion. Such a compassionate person! How is it He said that "Oh God, please forgive them for they don't know what they are doing"? Is His capacity as a very great enlightened personality. You see it is not what you are doing some charity, is this, that - is not the point. The point is you become a charity. Yourself you are a charity. I've seen people who do charitable work, they go on taking the money, doing all kinds of nonsensical things. I can't understand how can they do it - because they're not enlightened. In the light of your Spirit, you don't do wrong things to others, you don't do wrong things in the politics, you'll not do wrong things in the economics. And all that has been described how you should be - you should be this, you should be that - automatically becomes a part and parcel of your personality. You are not to told that "don't eat this and don't eat that," you just don't see this thing, you don't see that, nothing of the kind. It is you only decide, it is only you have got these qualities in you, and your personality itself will emit such beautiful, peaceful vibrations all around wherever you are. Now as it is, when I first came to London, I was surprised that so many of people are taking to hippie life, they're taking to drugs. And I discovered they are not doing it because they want to get out of this world or anything of the kind, or as a matter of habit, but they were all seekers. They were all real seekers of truth. And they couldn't find it in the world that existed that time, so they took to this, and they were just driven into it. So first thing I tried was to get hold of them. And I was amazed how over night they gave up everything and how they became such good Sahaja Yogis, because you see they were doing it for seeking. Many people in seeking are lost also because they took to wrong type of gurus, or maybe they took to wrong type of things for their search. It's all right, doesn't matter, they'll be born again and they can get their Realization. But the people who are today in this country, more younger or older makes no different, are worthy of getting this Realization and this ascent and this special personality. They are worthy of it, but still, as I said yesterday, they are not yet aware what they are worthy of. It's not what jobs you have got, what parents you have got, what properties you have got, it's nothing important. What is important; what are you? Are you a realized soul or not? So many are getting Realization all over the world. As I told you in Russia really I was surprised, how these people have become so sensitive. First time I went to Leningrad, now they call it St. Petersburg. When I saw so many sitting outside I said, "Why are you not inside?" Now there the seats are limited and they sell the tickets; not the organizers but the hall people they sell. They said, "Now we can't go in because it's all full." I said, "Really? So what will you do?" I said, "Let Me finish the program, then we'll see." When I came out after forty-five minutes they were still there. I was amazed. There are two thousands people sitting inside, and two thousand people sitting outside. I said, "All right you come along tomorrow." Look at the tenacity of these people. "You come tomorrow and we'll have it in the open grounds." Surprising, Moscow is a place where there are lots of open spaces. So they came who were inside, one who were outside four, four thousand we can say, and also one thousand more. They all came. I was sitting outside. I was amazed, then I asked them, "How is it we didn't do much publicity and nothing, how is it you have come?" They said, "Mother we don't know, we felt," see this is what, "we just felt we have to come." And they did, just that feeling came into them. So how much deep they were, they were not superficial people, very deep, and they are still all of them there, and have multiplied, multiplied into... don't know how many thousands. See they said, "We just felt it." And it is very surprising, we are just given a small advertisement that's all, and how did they feel it? And how did they come? So this feeling also is very important, but that can be only when you are deep personality inside. If there is no depth, then doesn't work out. But they were at such a point where they just felt that they have to come to this program. So many people went there, so many gurus from India also, from America also. So many people went; none of them they accepted. See this sensitivity to spirituality. Also you can develop if you have depth. But I must say they have suffered a lot, they have suffered a lot. With this suffering I think they developed this depth within their heart and they could feel My love. And I mean, I cannot tell you how they are, it's amazing. Of course in India Sahaja Yoga is doing in a much wider scale I should say, much wider scale. But the way these Russians are, I mean they are so deep, so deep. Some Russians are in America. And what they told Me very surprisingly, they said, "Mother these American Sahaja Yogis are not really Sahaja Yogis." I said, "Why?" "No they're still you see not Sahaja Yogis." So I was wondering: look at these people. America I have been going for years together and why they are saying about these American Sahaja Yogis? Because that depth of seeking. They had found out they have no sense of possession. Their government told them that "All right we'll give you your own flats, you have them. We'll give you your own cars. We'll not run your cars and your flats." They said, "No, no, no, we don't want to have, you have it. We don't want to have a headache. Who is going to look after the car? Who is going to look after the flats? We don't know, you better have." Can you imagine? Here people run up and down for a flat or something, there they say, "We don't want." And even now they have not taken the flats in their own names, because they don't know how to look after them. I said, "We don't know." I mean very surprise. Of course there are at least forty percent people who are not of that level, but to have sixty percent people like that - the scientists, doctors, architects, all intellectuals of a very high quality. I was surprised to talk to architects, how they understand the [CAUSATIVE?] of the hall, how they understand how the house should be built. I think Leningrad is a place so beautifully built that it has none of the buildings have a backyard. No. They have a square in between, very beautiful. It's one of the most beautiful cities all over, not only in short places. Like Paris may be very beautiful, but in a very little place, a limited place. I was surprised how these people have been so much developed. Now what happened was that's what they told that they were aggressed by the Communism or by the people who were Communists, all kinds, specially Stalin and all that. And that's how they thought they should develop themselves within themselves and that's how they have become. But I whenever I read lots of these books of say Russian writers and I was surprised that introspection is the main thing they have discussed. If there's a hero then he would introspect himself - how is he compared to the heroin? With all their books are full of introspection. And because of this western civilization - whatever we may call it, the materialism - we are so much outside that we do not introspect. We have to introspect ourselves. Why are we on this earth, what is the purpose of our life, why should we be here? If you start introspecting, immediately you will find that we have not served the purpose of being human beings, to be evolved as human being. All right, you had evolved up to the human level, but that's not the end of it. If it was so, why there's so much problem? Why you cannot compromise with yourself? Why there's a fight going on between your head and your heart and your liver? Why are you fighting? What is the matter? Why can't you all be united within yourself at least? So there's something wrong; this connection has to be established. That's possible when you see these chakras, then the Kundalini passes through. And when She travels She passes through these centers just like you would put string into many beautiful pearls, you see it goes. And that's how the complete integration takes place. You`re completely integrated in yourself. You don't doubt yourself, there is no doubt. And you understand that whatever you are doing is the best thing. Your heart agrees. Your mind agrees. Your liver also agrees. Liver is the giver of your attention, and this attention becomes so beautiful. You start seeing in the subtle way the beauties of your doing, your working, your functions. Everything you understand in such a beautiful manner. You can never hate yourself. And you can not hate others also, because you can see the subtleties, because you have become a subtler being, and you can enter into their subtleties also. Of course, I do not say that all are like that, or all are capable. This I've now I accepted that all can not be and as I told you yesterday now there are two levels: one is going upward and one is going downward, doesn't matter, don't worry. What you have to see what you can do to go upward and enjoy the company of others who are on the same platform. This can happen to you because you're collectively conscious. You're looked after. You're protected. You're guided. You're loved. Above all this power knows who you are and how it runs to your help, you must see that. There are so many things I've said, there are so many lectures which I would like you to hear. I've told them that you must give them the tapes, it's very important. You must sell the tapes to them and take the minimum. And so they said, "No Mother, we used to take so much." I said, "No, make it half. And say 'for sale' if you want to, if that appeals to them." But you see these are beautiful, precious lectures which I've seen people in other countries use them while traveling long distances, and also otherwise for meditation, so many of them are working it out that way. So if you really are interested in yourself, interested in your ascent, interested in becoming one with the whole, to be in the Kingdom of God; then please take these tapes, listen to them, meditate on them. Meditation will become very much easier. You don't have to jump or do anything, like all kinds of funny meditations have started. You must have heard there are people who are trying to raise their body three feet height. For what, I don't understand. As it is, you see we have such problems of traffic, and these three feet height people... But still people do it because they think is something great to be flying three feet height. Nobody has done so far but that's what they claim. Every time they come out with a new thing, "Now this can happen to you, that can happen." Nothing of the kind. It is the experience of oneness. But some people are still not up to the point. I've seen them. They just still go on say, "Ah ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I felt so much better." What is it? You so much you felt better means what? Can you give Realization to other people? Can you raise their Kundalini? Can you cure yourself and can you cure others? That's the minimum you should be able to do, other what's the use of just describing that "This is my spiritual experience and I felt like..." I mean, all these things are not going to help in anyway. Why we should deceive ourselves? You see it's all right I must say these false people try to deceive you. But you are also deceiving yourself if you do not want to accept the reality. Reality is what you become, what your personality express, how you have changed. Otherwise it is idiotic to believe in such things, I think, sometimes when they tell you that this will happen, that will happen. Never have I seen anything good coming out of these things, but just a person lives in his stupidity. As it is we have to be alert, this is what we call is the Ghora Kali Yuga means these modern times are called as Ghora Kali Yuga, mean the worse time for human being. And you can see all kinds of things that are happening today never happened before. So this the worse time have come and we can any day fall a pray to it, it's a fact. I mean I've known people who have been very good people, suddenly I find they are absolutely lost - lost to themselves, lost to their family. So that must be according to Indian scriptures is Ghora Kali Yuga, and in this Ghora Kali Yuga you cannot find people who are deep, who are very selfish, who are very low level. I've seen many people come to Me for getting cured and getting better and all. Thousands have been cured with Sahaja Yoga, but they don't want to become Sahaja Yogis. Surprisingly somebody told Me, "Mother because we don't want to have the ego." I said, "Where is the question of ego?" "Because supposing we get self-realized, we'll have ego." I mean this is just a stupid excuse. Once you're a realized person, you don't get any ego, your ego finishes off. And if there is some problem - you see, I've seen many people came in the beginning to tell Me, "Mother my Agnya Chakra is catching." That means my ego is troubling me. You separate from your ego and you see for yourself that this is Mr. Ego is troubling me. And you want to get rid of it because gives you a headache. Normally the ego doesn't give headache, but then it starts giving you headache when you are a realized soul; you want to get rid of it. It's very simple that we have to understand ourselves, our beings, all these subtle things we must know. For that you don't have to go to any doctor, you don't have to ask any scientist to help you. You yourself will know what's wrong with you. In your being these centers are placed. You can see for yourself on your fingertips; you'll know what's wrong where. Today only I told that yesterday there were very many right-sided people - when people who assert themselves too much, who are dominating. So they were surprised, because normally the British are left-sided. Means they're all the time frightened people, very frightened because they dominated, I think, a few years back, or I should say about fifty years back they were dominating. Now they're afraid that "we'll be dominated, we'll become slaves." So it's the other way round. But I was, when I told they were happy at least their movement, there's some movement towards the right side. But this right and left side movement has to finish. You have to be in the center. And to come in the center, best thing is to meditate. For Sahaja Yogis it is very important to meditate. Meditate about ten minutes in the night and about five minutes in the morning, nothing much is to be done. In all these centers they will tell you how to do it. You don't have to do anything, hardly five to ten minutes if you can meditate; even in the night, it's all right. That's all time you have to give. But I've seen many people who don't do it. They just come for curing or this or that, and then they don't meditate. Then they cannot grow. The way you can grow is only through meditation and understanding. Somebody said, "Mother we cannot surrender." "But who asked you to surrender?" Don't have to surrender, but you have to meditate. If you go on meditating yourself you'll understand that you are the Spirit, that you are the powerful Spirit which is the reflection of God Almighty within us. And when it comes, you become a very different person, very different. Your face improves. Your skin improves. Your behavior improves. Your temperament improves. Best of all, you just start seeing what was wrong with you and you try to eradicate all that was wrong, just through meditation. You don't have to do anything. You don't have to condemn yourself, just with meditation you can work out. And I'm sure all of you are sitting here who have got their Realization can, if they all can work it out, this England will be a changed place, absolutely most blissful place. Also I've said a lot about England. I think once you come to Sahaja Yoga you will know all about it, what is its place and all that, and really enjoy that you are born in such an important country and that you are so important. And only thing that is lacking in you, that you did not find your identification. Once you find your identification, you'll be amazed and you'll be very happy that you're born in this country. The temperature is sometimes very cloudy, grey. I know. First time I came to London in the month of May and such wind it would, use to just penetrate into the bones you know. I said, "What sort of a country is this? There's a curse of the Goddess or what?" But then I realized this is all just to teach them a lesson. I think that nature wants them to understand and this is how they are playing. Because, you see, if the climate is such, you stay at home more and don't run away from families, don't run away from your wives or husbands, you stay at home. This is one of the things that has worked here and that's why I think the English are better than Americans, because American are always on the run. Now to settle down into your own homes this is a more ideal, I should say ideal thing to happen, but that is not the end of it. When you meditate you'll surprise, within yourself lies such beautiful atmosphere of such joy, happiness, and peace. Ultimately you get the experience of joy. And joy as I told you is singular, and that experience of joy is so beautiful. In everything that is - supposing there is something ridiculous, also you enjoy the ridiculousness of that thing. If something is beautiful, you enjoy the beauty of that. So, the sense of enjoyment is so beautiful. And if you are all together you enjoy it even more, because it somehow or other hits the heart of other people also, and you enjoy their joy. It's like this enjoying their own joy. It's a beautiful state in which you all have to go. I've told you, seven times we had this big hall, Albert Hall. Every time I came, they were there. Maybe because I don't know what happens, when I'm there they are there, but later on they go on disappearing. So now I've told them that "You give them tapes at half rate, doesn't matter." You please listen to those tapes and try to grow, because you're all intelligent people, alert. These are special times when you have to really respect yourself. It's very important time and you have to grow. Very important it is that you have to grow, whatever may be your religion, may be your caste, community or may be your country; you all have to grow together and to know that you are one with each other. May God bless you! Shri Mataji: What is the next program? Derek Lee: Shri Mataji we could sing more bhajans if You would like. If You'd like, we could sing more bhajans now. Shri Mataji: All right. I'll be pleased. Yesterday's bhajan that they sang a - was the last bhajan, is written in the sixteenth century by a very famous poet called as Namadeva. Now this Namadeva has written this beautiful poem and in that he's asking, "Oh Mother, give me the Yoga, give me the union with the Divine." And he calls this Mother, the Kundalini, as Jagadamba. So she said, "Ambe You rise, You rise, You rise." This, see, they have been singing for ages in our villages but they don't know what they're singing, what they're asking. And when these Sahaja Yogis went to some villages there in Maharashtra, they got hold of these people and asked them. They wrote it down, the whole thing, and that's how they have got this song with them. So this great Namadeva was just a, he was tailor. And he went to meet another realized soul whose name who was just a potter, and he was kneading the clay. When he was kneading the clay he stood before him, Namadeva to protect him, and he says in Marathi language very beautifully that "I came to see the Chaitanya, the vibrations, but it is in person, is in your person it is there." I mean only a realized soul can appreciate another realized soul I think and enjoy - not jealousy, not competition but the enjoyment that "See, there's another one." But he says, "You are the Incarnation." So, look at the understanding between these two great soul! Then this Namadeva went to Punjab where he met Guru Nanak. Guru Nanak immediately recognized him and He told him, "Why don't you learn Punjabi language?" He learned Punjabi language within one year's time, it's an easy language. But then he has written such a big book, such a big book on Kundalini, on Realization. All these things are written in the Granthsahib by Nanak Sahib. But if you just read Granthsahib, how can you reach the truth? That's what it is. They all tried their level best to give you the best, every one of them. But somehow or other it could not be imbibed, and there was no question of people asking for Realization. So now it's very different. You all can have your Realization. You can read all these poets and poetry, and you can understand that they are saying what you feel within yourself. Such oneness you'll feel in literature, in art, in everything. It's one world I'm talking about, one world of Divinity. May God bless you! Shri Mataji: So any another bhajan, which one they would like to sing? Derek Lee: Shri Mataji many of these people were not at the Albert Hall. Many of the people here were not at the Albert Hall, Mother, so they may not have felt the Cool Breeze. Shri Mataji: Is it? You think. I thought you are all Realized souls already. How did you get them here? I don't know. Are they afraid of the Albert Hall or what? All right. So, I think we can try that again. Just put your hands towards Me like that. Just take out my shoes and it's all right. You have to take out your shoes, that's all. Now as I said yesterday that another simple thing is that you have to forgive yourself. As it is you know it's a fashion to feel guilty for everything. I don't know how it has started, but to feel guilty, it's a fashion. Say sorry. Formally on the telephone we used to say, "I beg your pardon," all right? Nowadays they say, "Sorry." Sorry for what? So this sorryness is too much. Now don't be sorry for anything here. You shouldn't feel sorry in any way. Don't feel guilty. You have done nothing wrong, believe Me. It's all nonsense that you must have read some novel or might have read some I don't know what that you have to feel guilty. You are not sinners by any chance, take it from Me. They're not sinners. It's all just money-making propositions, I think to say, "You're all sinners, you give us money so all your sins will be washed off." I don't know they also give guarantee card [?] said. So all these gimmicks you must understand, it has nothing to do with reality. So just in your heart you believe Me that you are not sinners, not to feel guilty for small, small things. Our norms are so much that you can feel guilty for anything. Say you spilled coffee, finished. All your life you are bothered that I spilled coffee. I mean coffee is to be spilled only. I don't understand. So these stupid nonsensical norms that we have adopted are really responsible for creating this feeling of guilt within us also. Also, all funny ideas you read, the books you read and things you read, because you are on the way of righteousness, you are on the way of reality, so you start saying, "Oh my God, I did this! I should not have done it." It's all right. Forget it. If you have done anything wrong at that moment only you should neutralize it. But don't carry the load all your life on your Left Vishuddhi. Is a very dangerous thing because you develop spondylitis, if not that you can develop angina. So this is a very important center and don't feel guilty for no fault of yours. So this is another very simple condition. And the third one is as you forgive yourself for everything, you should forgive others also. Because yesterday I told you whether you forgive or don't forgive you don't do anything. But if you don't forgive others then you are playing into wrong hands. So just say, "I forgive everyone," which is very important; because here people believe that how can I forgive, it's very difficult. What is difficult? Nothing. Just have to say, "Mother, I forgive everyone," finished. Once for all you say that and you'll be surprised. this center will open out. Without these two centers opening up, the Kundalini cannot pierce through. So just help yourself with these two things just in your heart you have to say. Now in your hands just see, watch what's happening on your hands. As I told you yesterday, all these fingers are activated when you get your Realization or vibrations, because these are all centers of the sympathetic nervous system endings. And in these centers what you find is that these are centers on the right hand side are for your physical and mental being. Left hand side are for your emotional being. So you can see these five centers, six and seven, this is the seventh center, which is here in the head in the limbic area. So you have these seven centers and you start feeling on these seven centers the vibrations, the Divine Power, to see that. Now one scientist in Russia I told you yesterday has found out through his calculations and mathematical things from My photograph that, according to him, I am the source of this Cosmic Energy. I don't know what to say, but whatever it is you just feel it yourself on your fingertips, just feel it. A cool breeze or a hot breeze will be coming. Now you... [What's this signal? No one knows. All right.] Put the right hand like this and put the left hand on top of the fontanel bone area, through which the Kundalini pierces through. You can bend your head, better. And now see for yourself if there's a cool or a hot breeze coming out of heads. If it is hot, nothing to worry, that means some correction is needed, but maybe it might cool down just now. Put your right hand towards Me, bend your head and see with your left hand. Not touch the head, keep it away and see for yourself. You can move your hand from left to right. If you have not forgiven yourself or others there will be hot breeze coming in. It should be Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost. So now see for yourself. It's called as Ruh, or it's called also as Paramachaitanya. Now put your left hand towards Me. Now put down your head and see with your right hand now. Bend your head and see from your right hand. You can raise it; you can move it and see for yourself if there's a cool or hot breeze coming out of it. Once more you put your right hand towards Me and see with the left hand. All right, now please put both your hands towards Me and watch Me without thinking, just without thinking, you can do it without thinking. Now, now you can raise your both the hands towards the sky like this, bend back your head and ask a question, any one of these questions three questions ask one of them, three times in your heart, three times. You can ask, "Mother is this the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost?" Second question, "Is this the all-pervading Power of Divine Love?" Third question, "Is this the Paramachaitanya?" Any one of these questions you have to ask only three times, that's all. Now take it down. All those who have felt cool or hot breeze on the fingertips, or on the palms, or out of the fontanel bone area, please raise all your hands. See now. My God, see all of them. May God bless you! May God bless you! Bless you! I think this is a better place than Albert Hall. Maybe you have all kinds of programs there, maybe that's the reason. I don't know but I like this place very well, this works very fast. So this is what you have felt for the first time you have felt this all-pervading Power of Divine Love. You felt it, but now you have to grow into it. That is just permanently part of parcel of your being, that's the growing part we lag behind, and because of then they have many problems. Say today I have cured somebody; again he comes back, "Mother now I have this disease." "All right, did you meditate?" "No." Then comes back again, "Mother I have this problem." "Did you meditate?" "No." So what I'm saying I go on like this working on this madcap who doesn't understand that only meditation will keep him in the center, will keep him all right, keep him wise. If you cannot meditate what can I do? It is a very simple thing. You don't have to pay for it. It's very, very simple. So unless and until you meditate I cannot help you. You have to grow. You have to grow, that's very important. So,may God bless you! Derek,you got all of them.

7/11/1998

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Evening Program, Eve Of Guru Puja

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7/12/1998

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Guru Puja: Humility & Complete Obedience

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Guru puja, “You must learn obedience”, Cabella Ligure (Italy), 12 July 1998. Today, we have assembled here to do the Guru Puja. The word ‘guru’ comes from ‘the one which is magnetic’, ‘the person who is magnetic’. The one which attracts the attention of the seekers, is the guru. Also it means ‘the heaviness’ or, you can say: a person who is very steady, who is very deep, who has the knowledge and who can act like the Mother Earth; for the power of magnetism in the Mother Earth also is called as ‘magnetic’, but in Sanskrit is ‘gurutwa karshan’, means ‘the attraction of the heaviness of the Mother Earth’. But actually it is a power of the Mother Earth that makes us stand properly on our legs when it is rotating with such a tremendous speed. Otherwise we would be all thrown away with that velocity that She is moving. [If] we are still attached or we are one in our balance, it’s only because She has gravity. This gravity has to be in a guru. Gravity means a kind of a serious understanding of oneself and one’s own responsibilities. So, a guru has to be very steady. In these modern times people are very mobile, all the time agitated, all the time getting disturbed. With small things happening here and there, they get disturbed. They meet people who are not of any quality then they get disturbed. These disturbing qualities come from our deficiency in our gravity. A person who has gravity doesn’t get depressed, neither gets excited, nor gets overly enthusiastic, nor is he very sad or unhappy. So, he is in the centre. He is in the centre of his being. But how do we become the guru? That is very important for Sahaja Yogis to understand. Many have felt that they are gurus, they have tried to behave in a funny manner and have lost their guru position. First and foremost thing, for Sahaja Yogis, it is important that they must have introspection. They must watch themselves. If a person runs about, changing because a fashion has come, because people have suppressed them or have asked them; just to please people of cheap values, if a person changes, then he cannot be a guru. He has to station himself properly on the values of Sahaja Yoga. Without introspection you will not know. You will never remember what you have done wrong, nor will you think of what you have to do right. But that is only possible if you go on improving yourself. First and foremost thing is, all the great saints have praised their guru. For example, we have a very great saint, Gyaneshwara, in India. He has written a complete chapter about the guru. In English they have translated it as ‘preceptor’. Guru is the preceptor. And what he has done is a great thing. He says [that] you are not to challenge the guru, otherwise you can never become a guru. For name’s sake you might be, but you are not. Secondly, you can never misbehave, you can never be rude, arrogant and you cannot show your temper to a guru. If that is so, that means you are not a guru, you are still on a very low level personality. It is very clearly said that, if you try to say against other gurus who are real gurus, who are of very high calibre, that also, then you are not a guru. But I would say that you all have got now vibrations. You all have got vibratory awareness. When you have vibratory awareness you are capable of finding out about everyone. Now, you need not talk about your own understanding of a person, but try to face that person directly and tell that person, “This is the problem” and ask him to change. But in Sahaja Yoga, we have something more than other gurus had. Other gurus were very, very strict. They used to carry a stick in their hand, and a big stick, which they would use for walking or for hitting their disciples. They used to hit their disciples in such a bad manner that the disciple was literally frightened of the guru. I’ll give you an example of a guru I came across: One fellow was there, in India, who came to one of the ladies who was a Sahaja Yogini and he said that, “My guru has sent me word that Adi Shakti is going to come and stay with you. Is it true?” She said, “Yes, She is going to stay with me, so what?” He said, “My guru has told me that you go and request her and if she could come to our ashram.” She said, “I’ll ask Mataji, I don’t know.” This fellow came to a programme and he saw me, a housewife; he said, “This cannot be that guru!” But when I came in, he saw - and when I did Self-realisation - that everybody’s Kundalini was awakened, he was so surprised and he prostrated himself before me. Now, his guru was living in Amarnath. It’s a very famous religious place in the Himalayas and this fellow lived in a place called Ambarnath (in Maharashtra). So, he asked me, “Mother, will you come to my ashram?” I said, “Why not?” Because these gurus in the ancient time never used to leave their seat, they call it ‘takiya', means ‘the pillow’. They never left their takiya. I said, “Alright, I don’t mind. I’ll come to your ashram.” So, he was just keeping quiet all the while. So, I went there, this guru fell at My feet and he was very, very respectful and then we came back home. So, this fellow started telling me, “If you don’t tell my guru, I would like to tell you that I have got a very bad Agnya. Can you cure, Mother?” I said, “Why not? I will.” So I went back to this guru again and I said, “Why didn’t you cure his Agnya?” He said, “Why? Why should I cure? Who cured my Agnya? I worked [it] out myself. I had to introspect, find out. And I cured my own Agnya. And why should I cure his Agnya? Let him plod, let him work, let him get to this, otherwise he will be a spoilt man.” I was quite surprised! And he said, “You do it because you are a Mother. You are nothing but love, and that’s why you are doing it, all this, for others, but not me! No guru will open the Agnya of his disciples!” I said, “Then why are you a guru?” He said, “Because we have to guide them, and if they have their Agnya badly cut out, if their attention is not alright, I am not bothered about it. It is their duty to introspect and find and climb the ladder which I have put before them. So, I am the guru, I can only give them the ladder to climb up. It is they who should work very hard. It is they who should introspect. It is they who should correct themselves. Why should I help them to such an extent that you open their Agnya?” I said, “Alright, you allow me to open his Agnya, if you don’t mind.” He said, “You are a mother, do what you like, I have nothing to say. If you want to do that. You will spoil them. You will spoil him. Let him do it on his own, otherwise you will be spoiling him.” I said, “As you are also spoilt that you don’t open anybody’s Agnya!” “Yes! But whatever position I have achieved is a permanent one.” So I opened his Agnya. Then, this fellow on his way, he told me that his guru came back and, “He put me hanging on a well and he used to every time lower the rope, so I would go into the water; ten times he did it.” But I said, “Why did he do such a cruel thing?” He said, “Because he found me smoking a cigarette.” “My Goodness!” So, I asked this guru, I said, “Why are you doing such a horrible thing to your disciples?” He said, “Otherwise, if you don’t do like this, they will never rise, they will never come up. You go on forgiving them and the more you forgive, the worse they become. And they will show no ascent at all, so you have to be very strict with them. Please don’t spoil them all the time!” I was really surprised how he could say so. “You see,” he said, “Mother, if you give everything free, you give them everything so easily, they will never value their self-respect, they will never value their Self-realisation.” I said, “It’s not so. You have to give them a chance. You have to allow them to rise and to allow them to become something. Like Mother Earth, what She does, She sprouts the seeds, then the trees come up, then after that She gives them the fruits and She sees that the fruits are ripened. All that She does.” But he said, “But they are not trees, they are human beings and they have freedom to become devils also.” I said, “Alright, if they are devils, I can manage them. You just see how I can manage them. And if they are devils, they’ll remain devils, you cannot change them.” So, he argued with me and when he met Sahaja Yogis, he asked them: “How many of you are willing to give [your] life for Shri Mataji? Do you know what She has given you?” They said, “Yes, we do.” So they came to me and told, “Mother, he wanted us to give life for you.” I said, “That’s not necessary. It’s not necessary.” Because he used to ask his disciples perhaps! And then I met many like him who were very strict gurus. Complete obedience was needed, complete humility, complete surrender was needed. A word against the guru was not tolerated, but even you could not answer, you could not show any temper to a guru. Now I have met people who are like that sometimes, then I stop talking to them, that’s it! If they want to improve, they can improve. If they don’t want to improve, you cannot force them to improve. But, according to these gurus, there should be a great fear in their mind, that they should be so frightened, that they should behave themselves. Now, we expect so much from the guru: that he is your father, mother, he is a friend, everything. He is a pure person, who just wants your ascent. He wants to look after you. He wants to guide you, wants to protect and takes you to the life of spirituality. And this is the way a guru has to work out. But what is expected of the disciple is even much worse. The disciple has to be absolutely a pure person. He should have a pure desire to become a spiritual person. If he doesn’t have this pure desire, if he has some other desires, then absolutely useless. Like some people come to Sahaja Yoga, I have seen it: they want to make a name out of themselves, they become great masters of everything, they want to dominate everything. That is not important. There are some people who try to make money in Sahaja Yoga, a way of making money. That also is absolutely wrong. And, not only that, but it’s [a] very low level that you want to make money out of Sahaja Yoga. Then there are people who just come here for some politics. They go on saying things here and saying things there. All these things are not going to give you any ascent whatsoever. You have come here only to achieve a great life of spirituality of becoming a guru. Now, also this politics business is quite a lot. People try to enjoy the position of a leader. So, they try to keep that position in a very special way. There is no need in that. If you are a leader because you are a great master, you will remain [so]; nobody can challenge you; nobody can dethrone you. And one should not get disturbed with any such fear. Sahaja Yoga is a yoga in which fear doesn’t play any part. There’s no fear for you. Only thing for your ascent, it is necessary that you introspect. Try to find out what have you been doing. Are you an absolutely humble person? Do you do whatever is told to you? Supposing I tell somebody, “Just go to some place.” He may not go. He will come and tell me, “You know, Mother, this happened, that happened...” some excuse. He may not go. But that’s not being good. If you have been told to go to that place, there must be some meaning and you have to go. You have to obey! If you are not obedient, then you cannot become a guru, because, if you cannot obey, how can others obey you? This obedience is not for any personal gain of the guru, not at all, but for your gain only, for your education, for your ascent. So, if such a view is taken, then what happens [is] that you start getting all the qualities of a guru. Firstly a guru cannot be fussy man, first and foremost thing: “I want this house, I want that thing, I can’t like this, I can’t like that.” If a person who does not know how to get detached from all these habits, he cannot be a guru. How can he ascend? Of course, I mean, you have to try that you get rid of all these habits. They are funny habits which make you miserable. It doesn’t make miserable others as it makes you miserable. No habit should cling to a guru. First and foremost is that he has to be beyond time. He should not worry about time. Many a times I have seen people, if they have to go to the airport for example, something enters into their body! They become speedy, suddenly, everybody. Even if I have to go, I am going, all of them will become speedy, everybody starts running helter-skelter. Why? I am going, you are not going. But it happens. Like that, if you tell somebody you have to go to a function or for some felicitation, people start jumping about. And that’s a very modern disease, it was not before. So they start seeing that, “We are getting late,” getting upset. But if you go on worrying like that, you don’t go beyond time. And when you go beyond time, you control time, time is with you all the time. Whenever you go, it happens. I’ll give an example of that: We had a little girl in Cabella who fell down and she broke her hand, very badly. I was about to leave for America. Actually, I had come out of my room when I saw the child. I said, “Alright, it doesn’t matter, I’ll cure this child, first.” They said, “No, Mother, but your plane!” I said, “It’s alright, forget it!” So, I got the child, treated the child and she was alright and after, I think, half an hour, I left, I left for the airport. And you will be amazed to hear that that aeroplane was out of order, which was going to New York. So this plane is out of order. Then they said, “Alright, you can go by another aeroplane which goes to Washington, with the same ticket.” I said, “Very good idea, give me that.” And I went by that, so that I reached Washington, which is a very, very nice airport to arrive because there is no problem of customs, there is no crowd, nothing. All people go to New York, I don’t know why. They should all go to Washington. It’s very surprising. I discovered for myself that I wish I had not gone by that horrible plane to go to New York. Like that, everything works out and the time comes what is good for you. It is such a lot of experience of mine, which I can tell you, that to worry about time itself is a headache. If you leave it to this Divine Power and believe in it, then everything works out for your good. And if it does not, you must know that it is your destiny. You must accept. You must learn to accept, because, whatever you have fixed up yourself as something very great, is not. So, what is the greatest thing you have to achieve? Your detachment. Then you become gunateet, means, as you know, we have three gunas within us. One is called as Satvoguna, is the best, but there are two other gunas which are, as you know that, Left Side and Right Side. Either you are a right-sided person or a left-sided person. These two gunas within us are of no importance. Supposing you are a right-sided person, then what happens to you? You become overactive, overactivity gives you fatigue, gives you all kinds of diseases, which you have seen, and you have to cure Right Side. Such a person is extremely speedy. He cannot sit in one place for two minutes. He is all the time jumping and he creates problems for himself and his family. Then the left-sided person, which we call as the tamoguna. The right-sided is the rajoguna and the left-sided is the one which is tamoguna. ‘Tamo’ means ‘darkness’. Such a man is afraid of darkness. Darkness, everything, he is afraid of. But he becomes a very intriguingly, very crooked person. He always tries to trouble people in a very crooked manner. Not openly. While the right-sided man is openly a Hitler. But this one, the second one, the one we call as tamoguni is the one who tries to trouble others very much. Rajoguni has an opinion of his own about everything. When he is so much having his own opinion, he goes on forcing it onto other persons. But, if you see his own life, he is in complete misery. He cannot carry on with people, he cannot talk to people and there is a very big gap between himself, his Spirit, and his being. The second type, the tamogunis are the ones who end up with all kinds of diseases. Even the right-sided people get lots of diseases. But the left ones get it psychosomatic. Psychosomatic diseases are very dangerous and not curable by human doctors. So, you have to take to Sahaja Yoga. But again, you go to the right or to the left, again right to the left. This is not a very good attitude, I think, towards life, that you get bound by one of these gunas or you are all the time like a pendulum, moving from left to right, right to left. So, you have to be a steady person. For that you all have to meditate. I know immediately a person who meditates and I know who does not meditate. You will yourself know a person who meditates. It’s a question of ten, fifteen minutes, but that you must do every night. And morning, about five minutes meditation. Then you develop your balance. You develop your tenacity. You develop your own body in such a manner that it can stand lots of nonsense, it can bear lots of things. You don’t have then desires left: what food you should eat, when you should eat, whom you should please, nothing of the kind! You yourself become such a sweet person, that everybody is pleased and understands that one has to be like you. The people see you and you become like a model, people start following you, that means you become a guru. In this way, you get rid of these two habits that you have of Left and Right side. Now, satvogunis are the people who believe in the righteousness. But when they are righteous, they can have contempt for others who are not righteous. They go on saying things to such people. So, they can develop a kind of temperament. So they become aloof. They can go to Himalayas, sit there and not to meet anybody, get out of the society, get out of all your relations, everyone, and just establish yourself as a big guru somewhere. This kind also of, also, another generation is there which is of no use. I met some of them when I was in Hardwar and I told them, “What are you doing in the Himalayas?” He said, “We don’t want to face human beings. They are useless people, they are good for nothing. You do anything for them, they go on troubling you. We don’t want to be there.” So, I said, “Why have you become a guru? If you cannot manage them, if you cannot get out of the troubles they are giving you and out of all those things and remain in your peace, then what’s the use of becoming this?” He said, “We have had enough of it.” Some of them were over 100 years of age and all that. But I said, “What is the use? Your life is of no use. You are staying here, alone somewhere in the jungles.” He said, “The tigers, the snakes, all of them know us, that we are great and they don’t trouble us, but these human beings are terrible. If we go down, they’ll trouble us and torture us, we don’t want to go there, because they are very ambitious or they are very negative. Something is wrong with the human beings. None of them have reached a perfect state.” So that, all that, I was surprised how they are not at all willing to come down and be with us and be a part and parcel of us. They said, “Alright, Mother, you have come, you are a Mother, you can tolerate all this and you can work it out, but not we. We are out of it, we don’t want to go back.” They have lots of powers, they can control the nature, they can do so many things, but they said, “Easy to control even a snake than to control a human being. Today they might behave in a particular manner, suddenly they will become horrible. You don’t know these human beings how uncertain they are, what uncertain quantity they are.” I said, “There is a way of putting them right. You first give them Realisation.” In the light of their Spirit, they can see how they are doing wrong things. Ninety-nine percent [of] people will know what’s going wrong with them, where are they missing the point. They will start seeing themselves. Spirit is like a mirror where you see yourself clearly, and you start changing yourself. There’s no introspection actually needed then, when you have your Spirit awakened. You can watch yourself, you can see for yourself clearly, as soon as you become a developed or evolved Sahaja Yogi. And that is one point one should see: if it has happened to you. If you can see something wrong with you, if you can find out what sort of defects you have, if you can detach yourself from those defects, and if you can understand that all these attachments and defects and habits are pulling you down, then only you can leave them. But that only happens, when you have this mirror of your Self shining through. When this light comes to you, you see for yourself what is wrong with you, what is the wrong path you are taking. Overnight you have seen [that] people have given up so many things. Many gross things they give up, but still there are many subtle things which stick on to them. First thing that happens to you is that you start finding what’s wrong with your own people, of your own nation. I am amazed, you see: When the English got Realisation, they started telling me about the English. When Italians got Realisation, they started telling me about the Italians. If you tell Italians that, “You see, this Italian fellow did this, like that”, he said, “Italians, after all, Mother! What will they do? They are just like this, you know!” He himself is an Italian, but immediately he’ll say. Same with the Russians, I have seen, it’s very surprising that they start telling you about what’s wrong with the Russians or with the Ukrainians. All of them are quite aware. Even Indians, they’ll say, “After all, this is Indian, you know, Indian people how they are, Mother, they are doing like this.” I was surprised that they themselves being Indians, how are they immediately telling me about the Indians! And many things I have come to know about these countries, actually through the Sahaja Yogis only. When the Sahaja Yogis tell me, I am amazed that they are not identified with their country, they are not identified with anyone, even [with] their own family they are not identified. If they find something wrong, they’ll tell me, “Mother, my father is like that, my mother is like that.” That is how you get detached, when you start seeing and are not identified. If you are not identified with all these things, then you become a free person, you have the freedom. You become a person who is not attached to anyone because he is your father or she is your mother or a sister or anyone. This attachment is a very dangerous one also. With the family attachment we have lost many Sahaja Yogis. Because their family was funny, they got lost. They couldn’t get out of it. We don’t say that you detach yourself from family or get out of it, but, in a subtle way, you should understand what are they up to and what they are doing. All this subtle understanding about everyone doesn’t give you any right also to criticise them. You should see for yourself what’s wrong with you. You know, all these subtleties you criticise that, “Such a person is such, such a person is such,” but you also have the same problems with you. That’s why you get detachment only possible through this introspection, through the mirror of your Spirit. So, the spiritual life is very important to a person than anything else on this Earth. Because such a person has been seeking, he has been seeking the Truth, he has been seeking the Reality. And once you know the Reality, you don’t want to cling onto something which is not Reality. You want to be a person who is above all these things, that you can see all these things. And that is how you can save others, who are getting drowned into the ocean of darkness, into the ocean of misidentification. Only when you are above this. But mostly what happens is this, that you are identified. You are identified, “How can I do it? How can I say?” The countries where Sahaja Yoga has spread well, there have been people who are not identified with those countries and think that they have to help all these countrymen to come up, to join in. For that, tremendous patience and love is necessary. As you know, this Cosmic Power, as they call it, which, they say, I am the source: actually, it is the power of Love, of Divine Love, of pure Love. And such a love doesn’t demand anything, doesn’t want anything, but it acts, it works. For example, if you love somebody, you would not like to do something to displease that person. Of course, there are some Sahaja Yogis who do things which I really don’t like, but I never show. I just keep quiet. But normally, if a person has love for someone, he wouldn’t do anything to displease or to trouble that person or in any way hurt. Without that development within you, you cannot become collective. In collectivity, what happens [is] that you feel for others, you understand others. You may not show off, but inside yourself, you know. Supposing somebody has done lots of funny things with you - doesn’t matter. But gradually you will see, he will change. Gradually he will become better, because he will realise that whatever he has been doing has not been a correct thing to do. He will not only feel guilty, that’s not the way, but he will say, “I should correct. Why did I do like this? I should not have done it.” Gradually he will improve. But for that, you should have a great sense of forgiveness, great sense of understanding. Under circumstances, people also misbehave, because they have had no training how to be alright, how to be humble, they misbehave. Because in their culture, perhaps, there is nothing but just anger, and arrogance is regarded as something great, also, they misbehave. Sometimes they come from such families where only arrogance is taught. So you can’t help it. Such people are to be forgiven again and again, and see that they change. Because I have a faith that all human beings can be made into beautiful flowers of fragrance, all the human beings. But I know there are some difficult ones. Why? Because they don’t want. If they don’t want, if they don’t have the pure desire, you cannot force it on them, so forget it! They are difficult people, forget about them. But those who want, those who have a great desire, which is absolutely pure desire - not for money, not for position, not for anything else, but for achieving a great state of spirituality - such people are to be helped at any cost. I know some of them have gone to very wrong gurus and they have suffered - they have a bad Agnya, they have all kinds of things - doesn’t matter, you should try to help them. If they can listen to you, if they can understand what you are telling them, I am sure it would work out. It has worked out so much, as you can see now, that, in the foreign countries where I was just an Indian, how people have taken to it! How they have understood me and how they have become Sahaja Yogis of such a great value and level. We never had so many saints in the olden days, never! Only one saint would be born, and he would be tortured. There were not so many to help each other and to protect each other. So, collectivity is to be learned very well, how to be collective, how to be nice to each other. Because, later on, when you become the guru, when you have to guide the people, you will know what are the problems of the collectivity. Also you will know how to overcome that, how to make collectivity perfect. And once you learn that thing, you will be amazed that you have mastered the art of being a guru. I would like to see so many of you becoming a real guru, real masters. Not only in your jobs, in your talents, but in your own life. People should say that, “Such and such person is a real guru.” For that, as I said, you must learn obedience, complete obedience. You should not question the guru. Whatever is told to you, you must do. Though in Sahaja Yoga I do not say that. Today is the first time I am saying it, because I find so many of you fall a little short of becoming perfect. You don’t have to sacrifice anything. I have told you. You don’t have to give up anything. You don’t have to give up your families or anything and do odd things just to show that you are perfect. But it’s something, a state, within yourself which you have to establish, where you become extremely humble, obedient. And you will be growing with this light, I am sure. Once you understand the importance, then you will dedicate yourself to become a personality of a rare quality. It’s very difficult, as people sometimes say, but I think it’s the easiest thing to be, because that’s the most comfortable way of living in life. No use fighting, no use quarrelling, nobody trying to show off and all that. The care of everyone, the suggestion of care is very much satisfying for others. A little care here and there, people like it. And that only comes from a very noble soul who bothers about small, small things, about whatever others need. It’s not for your own advancement. It’s not for your own leadership, whatever you may call, or for your own positions. Then you are falling short. But it’s for your own ascent, for your higher life that you give up all these ideas of leadership and this and that. It’s absurd the way sometimes I find some Sahaja Yogis are so anxious to assert themselves as leaders. It’s not correct. So many times I have explained to you that your own development, your own correction, your own position in Sahaja Yoga will say what you are. Whatever others may say doesn’t matter. What you say about yourself, truly, truthfully, is the reality. And you must face yourself all the time. I would say specially for the ladies, because I am a woman and I have worked very hard all these years, and, as a woman, I must tell that all the ladies should try. Because they always say, “We are shaktis”, but in their life, I don’t see there is any work done as shaktis. Only they are sort of dependents all the time on Sahaja Yoga. They have to stand up in their own freedom. They have to be independent and they should have right ideas about everything. I am sure if the ladies come up that way, Sahaja Yoga will spread very much. Men are working much more for Sahaja Yoga than women are. I can understand, because they have families, they have children, these things. But the most important thing is that, once you take to active Sahaja Yoga, then your children also come up well, the family is also looked after. After all, there is this Divine Power which looks after all of you. You must believe that this Divine Power thinks, understands, It organises, above all It loves you. This Divine Power has to be understood, that It is now your own and that you are in the Realm of this Divine Power where you won’t have any problems whatsoever. If you leave things to the Divine Power it will all work out. As you know, about this scientist who found out about me. I have to just say that he asked me that, “How is it that so many hearts are made here?” I said, “People were singing the song ‘Sitting in the heart of the universe’, so this many hearts have come up.” But he said still, “Does this power hear?” I said, “No, it’s me only! I can hear. I was hearing the song and then the Power organises everything.” It’s something to be understood very well, that the power within you, what you have, understands and understands you also. It is a way of power which is your own power, but you cannot control it. It knows about you, whenever you are falling, when you are doing wrong, the same power which protects you and loves you like a mother will correct you and bring you to the right path. I think, now, a new century is starting and so many things have to happen. And all of you must decide that you will do this or that. Whatever is your understanding about spreading Sahaja Yoga, you should try do it. All of you should put your mind to it. If women can’t go out, they can write down something, they can write about their spiritual ascent or about whatever their experiences are. So in any case, all those who have got also very miraculous photographs, they should send it over here; very important is, because this gentleman is coming here in September and he is going to analyse all of them. So it will be very nice of you if you can send it. Also you write down about your different experiences you have had in Sahaj Yog. That will be also a good idea, he told me, that he would like to publish a book like that. And now the time has come for us to publish our miracles that have taken place. All of you have had some experience of miracles, so I have to request you to send, as soon as possible, written well, in English language or in Hindi language or Marathi, because I don’t understand other languages. And please don’t send me in other languages, we will have to appoint somebody to translate them in fourteen languages, it’s a difficult thing. So, I would request you to send that. I am sure today’s lecture, you will again go through it and understand it and work it out. May God bless you.

Guru puja, “You must learn obedience”, Cabella Ligure (Italy), 12 July 1998. Today, we have assembled here to do the Guru Puja. The word ‘guru’ comes from ‘the one which is magnetic’, ‘the person who is magnetic’. The one which attracts the attention of the seekers, is the guru. Also it means ‘the heaviness’ or, you can say: a person who is very steady, who is very deep, who has the knowledge and who can act like the Mother Earth; for the power of magnetism in the Mother Earth also is called as ‘magnetic’, but in Sanskrit is ‘gurutwa karshan’, means ‘the attraction of the heaviness of the Mother Earth’. But actually it is a power of the Mother Earth that makes us stand properly on our legs when it is rotating with such a tremendous speed. Otherwise we would be all thrown away with that velocity that She is moving. [If] we are still attached or we are one in our balance, it’s only because She has gravity. This gravity has to be in a guru. Gravity means a kind of a serious understanding of oneself and one’s own responsibilities. So, a guru has to be very steady. In these modern times people are very mobile, all the time agitated, all the time getting disturbed. With small things happening here and there, they get disturbed. They meet people who are not of any quality then they get disturbed. These disturbing qualities come from our deficiency in our gravity. A person who has gravity doesn’t get depressed, neither gets excited, nor gets overly enthusiastic, nor is he very sad or unhappy. So, he is in the centre. He is in the centre of his being. But how do we become the guru? That is very important for Sahaja Yogis to understand. Many have felt that they are gurus, they have tried to behave in a funny manner and have lost their guru position. First and foremost thing, for Sahaja Yogis, it is important that they must have introspection. They must watch themselves. If a person runs about, changing because a fashion has come, because people have suppressed them or have asked them; just to please people of cheap values, if a person changes, then he cannot be a guru. He has to station himself properly on the values of Sahaja Yoga. Without introspection you will not know. You will never remember what you have done wrong, nor will you think of what you have to do right. But that is only possible if you go on improving yourself. First and foremost thing is, all the great saints have praised their guru. For example, we have a very great saint, Gyaneshwara, in India. He has written a complete chapter about the guru. In English they have translated it as ‘preceptor’. Guru is the preceptor. And what he has done is a great thing. He says [that] you are not to challenge the guru, otherwise you can never become a guru. For name’s sake you might be, but you are not. Secondly, you can never misbehave, you can never be rude, arrogant and you cannot show your temper to a guru. If that is so, that means you are not a guru, you are still on a very low level personality. It is very clearly said that, if you try to say against other gurus who are real gurus, who are of very high calibre, that also, then you are not a guru. But I would say that you all have got now vibrations. You all have got vibratory awareness. When you have vibratory awareness you are capable of finding out about everyone. Now, you need not talk about your own understanding of a person, but try to face that person directly and tell that person, “This is the problem” and ask him to change. But in Sahaja Yoga, we have something more than other gurus had. Other gurus were very, very strict. They used to carry a stick in their hand, and a big stick, which they would use for walking or for hitting their disciples. They used to hit their disciples in such a bad manner that the disciple was literally frightened of the guru. I’ll give you an example of a guru I came across: One fellow was there, in India, who came to one of the ladies who was a Sahaja Yogini and he said that, “My guru has sent me word that Adi Shakti is going to come and stay with you. Is it true?” She said, “Yes, She is going to stay with me, so what?” He said, “My guru has told me that you go and request her and if she could come to our ashram.” She said, “I’ll ask Mataji, I don’t know.” This fellow came to a programme and he saw me, a housewife; he said, “This cannot be that guru!” But when I came in, he saw - and when I did Self-realisation - that everybody’s Kundalini was awakened, he was so surprised and he prostrated himself before me. Now, his guru was living in Amarnath. It’s a very famous religious place in the Himalayas and this fellow lived in a place called Ambarnath (in Maharashtra). So, he asked me, “Mother, will you come to my ashram?” I said, “Why not?” Because these gurus in the ancient time never used to leave their seat, they call it ‘takiya', means ‘the pillow’. They never left their takiya. I said, “Alright, I don’t mind. I’ll come to your ashram.” So, he was just keeping quiet all the while. So, I went there, this guru fell at My feet and he was very, very respectful and then we came back home. So, this fellow started telling me, “If you don’t tell my guru, I would like to tell you that I have got a very bad Agnya. Can you cure, Mother?” I said, “Why not? I will.” So I went back to this guru again and I said, “Why didn’t you cure his Agnya?” He said, “Why? Why should I cure? Who cured my Agnya? I worked [it] out myself. I had to introspect, find out. And I cured my own Agnya. And why should I cure his Agnya? Let him plod, let him work, let him get to this, otherwise he will be a spoilt man.” I was quite surprised! And he said, “You do it because you are a Mother. You are nothing but love, and that’s why you are doing it, all this, for others, but not me! No guru will open the Agnya of his disciples!” I said, “Then why are you a guru?” He said, “Because we have to guide them, and if they have their Agnya badly cut out, if their attention is not alright, I am not bothered about it. It is their duty to introspect and find and climb the ladder which I have put before them. So, I am the guru, I can only give them the ladder to climb up. It is they who should work very hard. It is they who should introspect. It is they who should correct themselves. Why should I help them to such an extent that you open their Agnya?” I said, “Alright, you allow me to open his Agnya, if you don’t mind.” He said, “You are a mother, do what you like, I have nothing to say. If you want to do that. You will spoil them. You will spoil him. Let him do it on his own, otherwise you will be spoiling him.” I said, “As you are also spoilt that you don’t open anybody’s Agnya!” “Yes! But whatever position I have achieved is a permanent one.” So I opened his Agnya. Then, this fellow on his way, he told me that his guru came back and, “He put me hanging on a well and he used to every time lower the rope, so I would go into the water; ten times he did it.” But I said, “Why did he do such a cruel thing?” He said, “Because he found me smoking a cigarette.” “My Goodness!” So, I asked this guru, I said, “Why are you doing such a horrible thing to your disciples?” He said, “Otherwise, if you don’t do like this, they will never rise, they will never come up. You go on forgiving them and the more you forgive, the worse they become. And they will show no ascent at all, so you have to be very strict with them. Please don’t spoil them all the time!” I was really surprised how he could say so. “You see,” he said, “Mother, if you give everything free, you give them everything so easily, they will never value their self-respect, they will never value their Self-realisation.” I said, “It’s not so. You have to give them a chance. You have to allow them to rise and to allow them to become something. Like Mother Earth, what She does, She sprouts the seeds, then the trees come up, then after that She gives them the fruits and She sees that the fruits are ripened. All that She does.” But he said, “But they are not trees, they are human beings and they have freedom to become devils also.” I said, “Alright, if they are devils, I can manage them. You just see how I can manage them. And if they are devils, they’ll remain devils, you cannot change them.” So, he argued with me and when he met Sahaja Yogis, he asked them: “How many of you are willing to give [your] life for Shri Mataji? Do you know what She has given you?” They said, “Yes, we do.” So they came to me and told, “Mother, he wanted us to give life for you.” I said, “That’s not necessary. It’s not necessary.” Because he used to ask his disciples perhaps! And then I met many like him who were very strict gurus. Complete obedience was needed, complete humility, complete surrender was needed. A word against the guru was not tolerated, but even you could not answer, you could not show any temper to a guru. Now I have met people who are like that sometimes, then I stop talking to them, that’s it! If they want to improve, they can improve. If they don’t want to improve, you cannot force them to improve. But, according to these gurus, there should be a great fear in their mind, that they should be so frightened, that they should behave themselves. Now, we expect so much from the guru: that he is your father, mother, he is a friend, everything. He is a pure person, who just wants your ascent. He wants to look after you. He wants to guide you, wants to protect and takes you to the life of spirituality. And this is the way a guru has to work out. But what is expected of the disciple is even much worse. The disciple has to be absolutely a pure person. He should have a pure desire to become a spiritual person. If he doesn’t have this pure desire, if he has some other desires, then absolutely useless. Like some people come to Sahaja Yoga, I have seen it: they want to make a name out of themselves, they become great masters of everything, they want to dominate everything. That is not important. There are some people who try to make money in Sahaja Yoga, a way of making money. That also is absolutely wrong. And, not only that, but it’s [a] very low level that you want to make money out of Sahaja Yoga. Then there are people who just come here for some politics. They go on saying things here and saying things there. All these things are not going to give you any ascent whatsoever. You have come here only to achieve a great life of spirituality of becoming a guru. Now, also this politics business is quite a lot. People try to enjoy the position of a leader. So, they try to keep that position in a very special way. There is no need in that. If you are a leader because you are a great master, you will remain [so]; nobody can challenge you; nobody can dethrone you. And one should not get disturbed with any such fear. Sahaja Yoga is a yoga in which fear doesn’t play any part. There’s no fear for you. Only thing for your ascent, it is necessary that you introspect. Try to find out what have you been doing. Are you an absolutely humble person? Do you do whatever is told to you? Supposing I tell somebody, “Just go to some place.” He may not go. He will come and tell me, “You know, Mother, this happened, that happened...” some excuse. He may not go. But that’s not being good. If you have been told to go to that place, there must be some meaning and you have to go. You have to obey! If you are not obedient, then you cannot become a guru, because, if you cannot obey, how can others obey you? This obedience is not for any personal gain of the guru, not at all, but for your gain only, for your education, for your ascent. So, if such a view is taken, then what happens [is] that you start getting all the qualities of a guru. Firstly a guru cannot be fussy man, first and foremost thing: “I want this house, I want that thing, I can’t like this, I can’t like that.” If a person who does not know how to get detached from all these habits, he cannot be a guru. How can he ascend? Of course, I mean, you have to try that you get rid of all these habits. They are funny habits which make you miserable. It doesn’t make miserable others as it makes you miserable. No habit should cling to a guru. First and foremost is that he has to be beyond time. He should not worry about time. Many a times I have seen people, if they have to go to the airport for example, something enters into their body! They become speedy, suddenly, everybody. Even if I have to go, I am going, all of them will become speedy, everybody starts running helter-skelter. Why? I am going, you are not going. But it happens. Like that, if you tell somebody you have to go to a function or for some felicitation, people start jumping about. And that’s a very modern disease, it was not before. So they start seeing that, “We are getting late,” getting upset. But if you go on worrying like that, you don’t go beyond time. And when you go beyond time, you control time, time is with you all the time. Whenever you go, it happens. I’ll give an example of that: We had a little girl in Cabella who fell down and she broke her hand, very badly. I was about to leave for America. Actually, I had come out of my room when I saw the child. I said, “Alright, it doesn’t matter, I’ll cure this child, first.” They said, “No, Mother, but your plane!” I said, “It’s alright, forget it!” So, I got the child, treated the child and she was alright and after, I think, half an hour, I left, I left for the airport. And you will be amazed to hear that that aeroplane was out of order, which was going to New York. So this plane is out of order. Then they said, “Alright, you can go by another aeroplane which goes to Washington, with the same ticket.” I said, “Very good idea, give me that.” And I went by that, so that I reached Washington, which is a very, very nice airport to arrive because there is no problem of customs, there is no crowd, nothing. All people go to New York, I don’t know why. They should all go to Washington. It’s very surprising. I discovered for myself that I wish I had not gone by that horrible plane to go to New York. Like that, everything works out and the time comes what is good for you. It is such a lot of experience of mine, which I can tell you, that to worry about time itself is a headache. If you leave it to this Divine Power and believe in it, then everything works out for your good. And if it does not, you must know that it is your destiny. You must accept. You must learn to accept, because, whatever you have fixed up yourself as something very great, is not. So, what is the greatest thing you have to achieve? Your detachment. Then you become gunateet, means, as you know, we have three gunas within us. One is called as Satvoguna, is the best, but there are two other gunas which are, as you know that, Left Side and Right Side. Either you are a right-sided person or a left-sided person. These two gunas within us are of no importance. Supposing you are a right-sided person, then what happens to you? You become overactive, overactivity gives you fatigue, gives you all kinds of diseases, which you have seen, and you have to cure Right Side. Such a person is extremely speedy. He cannot sit in one place for two minutes. He is all the time jumping and he creates problems for himself and his family. Then the left-sided person, which we call as the tamoguna. The right-sided is the rajoguna and the left-sided is the one which is tamoguna. ‘Tamo’ means ‘darkness’. Such a man is afraid of darkness. Darkness, everything, he is afraid of. But he becomes a very intriguingly, very crooked person. He always tries to trouble people in a very crooked manner. Not openly. While the right-sided man is openly a Hitler. But this one, the second one, the one we call as tamoguni is the one who tries to trouble others very much. Rajoguni has an opinion of his own about everything. When he is so much having his own opinion, he goes on forcing it onto other persons. But, if you see his own life, he is in complete misery. He cannot carry on with people, he cannot talk to people and there is a very big gap between himself, his Spirit, and his being. The second type, the tamogunis are the ones who end up with all kinds of diseases. Even the right-sided people get lots of diseases. But the left ones get it psychosomatic. Psychosomatic diseases are very dangerous and not curable by human doctors. So, you have to take to Sahaja Yoga. But again, you go to the right or to the left, again right to the left. This is not a very good attitude, I think, towards life, that you get bound by one of these gunas or you are all the time like a pendulum, moving from left to right, right to left. So, you have to be a steady person. For that you all have to meditate. I know immediately a person who meditates and I know who does not meditate. You will yourself know a person who meditates. It’s a question of ten, fifteen minutes, but that you must do every night. And morning, about five minutes meditation. Then you develop your balance. You develop your tenacity. You develop your own body in such a manner that it can stand lots of nonsense, it can bear lots of things. You don’t have then desires left: what food you should eat, when you should eat, whom you should please, nothing of the kind! You yourself become such a sweet person, that everybody is pleased and understands that one has to be like you. The people see you and you become like a model, people start following you, that means you become a guru. In this way, you get rid of these two habits that you have of Left and Right side. Now, satvogunis are the people who believe in the righteousness. But when they are righteous, they can have contempt for others who are not righteous. They go on saying things to such people. So, they can develop a kind of temperament. So they become aloof. They can go to Himalayas, sit there and not to meet anybody, get out of the society, get out of all your relations, everyone, and just establish yourself as a big guru somewhere. This kind also of, also, another generation is there which is of no use. I met some of them when I was in Hardwar and I told them, “What are you doing in the Himalayas?” He said, “We don’t want to face human beings. They are useless people, they are good for nothing. You do anything for them, they go on troubling you. We don’t want to be there.” So, I said, “Why have you become a guru? If you cannot manage them, if you cannot get out of the troubles they are giving you and out of all those things and remain in your peace, then what’s the use of becoming this?” He said, “We have had enough of it.” Some of them were over 100 years of age and all that. But I said, “What is the use? Your life is of no use. You are staying here, alone somewhere in the jungles.” He said, “The tigers, the snakes, all of them know us, that we are great and they don’t trouble us, but these human beings are terrible. If we go down, they’ll trouble us and torture us, we don’t want to go there, because they are very ambitious or they are very negative. Something is wrong with the human beings. None of them have reached a perfect state.” So that, all that, I was surprised how they are not at all willing to come down and be with us and be a part and parcel of us. They said, “Alright, Mother, you have come, you are a Mother, you can tolerate all this and you can work it out, but not we. We are out of it, we don’t want to go back.” They have lots of powers, they can control the nature, they can do so many things, but they said, “Easy to control even a snake than to control a human being. Today they might behave in a particular manner, suddenly they will become horrible. You don’t know these human beings how uncertain they are, what uncertain quantity they are.” I said, “There is a way of putting them right. You first give them Realisation.” In the light of their Spirit, they can see how they are doing wrong things. Ninety-nine percent [of] people will know what’s going wrong with them, where are they missing the point. They will start seeing themselves. Spirit is like a mirror where you see yourself clearly, and you start changing yourself. There’s no introspection actually needed then, when you have your Spirit awakened. You can watch yourself, you can see for yourself clearly, as soon as you become a developed or evolved Sahaja Yogi. And that is one point one should see: if it has happened to you. If you can see something wrong with you, if you can find out what sort of defects you have, if you can detach yourself from those defects, and if you can understand that all these attachments and defects and habits are pulling you down, then only you can leave them. But that only happens, when you have this mirror of your Self shining through. When this light comes to you, you see for yourself what is wrong with you, what is the wrong path you are taking. Overnight you have seen [that] people have given up so many things. Many gross things they give up, but still there are many subtle things which stick on to them. First thing that happens to you is that you start finding what’s wrong with your own people, of your own nation. I am amazed, you see: When the English got Realisation, they started telling me about the English. When Italians got Realisation, they started telling me about the Italians. If you tell Italians that, “You see, this Italian fellow did this, like that”, he said, “Italians, after all, Mother! What will they do? They are just like this, you know!” He himself is an Italian, but immediately he’ll say. Same with the Russians, I have seen, it’s very surprising that they start telling you about what’s wrong with the Russians or with the Ukrainians. All of them are quite aware. Even Indians, they’ll say, “After all, this is Indian, you know, Indian people how they are, Mother, they are doing like this.” I was surprised that they themselves being Indians, how are they immediately telling me about the Indians! And many things I have come to know about these countries, actually through the Sahaja Yogis only. When the Sahaja Yogis tell me, I am amazed that they are not identified with their country, they are not identified with anyone, even [with] their own family they are not identified. If they find something wrong, they’ll tell me, “Mother, my father is like that, my mother is like that.” That is how you get detached, when you start seeing and are not identified. If you are not identified with all these things, then you become a free person, you have the freedom. You become a person who is not attached to anyone because he is your father or she is your mother or a sister or anyone. This attachment is a very dangerous one also. With the family attachment we have lost many Sahaja Yogis. Because their family was funny, they got lost. They couldn’t get out of it. We don’t say that you detach yourself from family or get out of it, but, in a subtle way, you should understand what are they up to and what they are doing. All this subtle understanding about everyone doesn’t give you any right also to criticise them. You should see for yourself what’s wrong with you. You know, all these subtleties you criticise that, “Such a person is such, such a person is such,” but you also have the same problems with you. That’s why you get detachment only possible through this introspection, through the mirror of your Spirit. So, the spiritual life is very important to a person than anything else on this Earth. Because such a person has been seeking, he has been seeking the Truth, he has been seeking the Reality. And once you know the Reality, you don’t want to cling onto something which is not Reality. You want to be a person who is above all these things, that you can see all these things. And that is how you can save others, who are getting drowned into the ocean of darkness, into the ocean of misidentification. Only when you are above this. But mostly what happens is this, that you are identified. You are identified, “How can I do it? How can I say?” The countries where Sahaja Yoga has spread well, there have been people who are not identified with those countries and think that they have to help all these countrymen to come up, to join in. For that, tremendous patience and love is necessary. As you know, this Cosmic Power, as they call it, which, they say, I am the source: actually, it is the power of Love, of Divine Love, of pure Love. And such a love doesn’t demand anything, doesn’t want anything, but it acts, it works. For example, if you love somebody, you would not like to do something to displease that person. Of course, there are some Sahaja Yogis who do things which I really don’t like, but I never show. I just keep quiet. But normally, if a person has love for someone, he wouldn’t do anything to displease or to trouble that person or in any way hurt. Without that development within you, you cannot become collective. In collectivity, what happens [is] that you feel for others, you understand others. You may not show off, but inside yourself, you know. Supposing somebody has done lots of funny things with you - doesn’t matter. But gradually you will see, he will change. Gradually he will become better, because he will realise that whatever he has been doing has not been a correct thing to do. He will not only feel guilty, that’s not the way, but he will say, “I should correct. Why did I do like this? I should not have done it.” Gradually he will improve. But for that, you should have a great sense of forgiveness, great sense of understanding. Under circumstances, people also misbehave, because they have had no training how to be alright, how to be humble, they misbehave. Because in their culture, perhaps, there is nothing but just anger, and arrogance is regarded as something great, also, they misbehave. Sometimes they come from such families where only arrogance is taught. So you can’t help it. Such people are to be forgiven again and again, and see that they change. Because I have a faith that all human beings can be made into beautiful flowers of fragrance, all the human beings. But I know there are some difficult ones. Why? Because they don’t want. If they don’t want, if they don’t have the pure desire, you cannot force it on them, so forget it! They are difficult people, forget about them. But those who want, those who have a great desire, which is absolutely pure desire - not for money, not for position, not for anything else, but for achieving a great state of spirituality - such people are to be helped at any cost. I know some of them have gone to very wrong gurus and they have suffered - they have a bad Agnya, they have all kinds of things - doesn’t matter, you should try to help them. If they can listen to you, if they can understand what you are telling them, I am sure it would work out. It has worked out so much, as you can see now, that, in the foreign countries where I was just an Indian, how people have taken to it! How they have understood me and how they have become Sahaja Yogis of such a great value and level. We never had so many saints in the olden days, never! Only one saint would be born, and he would be tortured. There were not so many to help each other and to protect each other. So, collectivity is to be learned very well, how to be collective, how to be nice to each other. Because, later on, when you become the guru, when you have to guide the people, you will know what are the problems of the collectivity. Also you will know how to overcome that, how to make collectivity perfect. And once you learn that thing, you will be amazed that you have mastered the art of being a guru. I would like to see so many of you becoming a real guru, real masters. Not only in your jobs, in your talents, but in your own life. People should say that, “Such and such person is a real guru.” For that, as I said, you must learn obedience, complete obedience. You should not question the guru. Whatever is told to you, you must do. Though in Sahaja Yoga I do not say that. Today is the first time I am saying it, because I find so many of you fall a little short of becoming perfect. You don’t have to sacrifice anything. I have told you. You don’t have to give up anything. You don’t have to give up your families or anything and do odd things just to show that you are perfect. But it’s something, a state, within yourself which you have to establish, where you become extremely humble, obedient. And you will be growing with this light, I am sure. Once you understand the importance, then you will dedicate yourself to become a personality of a rare quality. It’s very difficult, as people sometimes say, but I think it’s the easiest thing to be, because that’s the most comfortable way of living in life. No use fighting, no use quarrelling, nobody trying to show off and all that. The care of everyone, the suggestion of care is very much satisfying for others. A little care here and there, people like it. And that only comes from a very noble soul who bothers about small, small things, about whatever others need. It’s not for your own advancement. It’s not for your own leadership, whatever you may call, or for your own positions. Then you are falling short. But it’s for your own ascent, for your higher life that you give up all these ideas of leadership and this and that. It’s absurd the way sometimes I find some Sahaja Yogis are so anxious to assert themselves as leaders. It’s not correct. So many times I have explained to you that your own development, your own correction, your own position in Sahaja Yoga will say what you are. Whatever others may say doesn’t matter. What you say about yourself, truly, truthfully, is the reality. And you must face yourself all the time. I would say specially for the ladies, because I am a woman and I have worked very hard all these years, and, as a woman, I must tell that all the ladies should try. Because they always say, “We are shaktis”, but in their life, I don’t see there is any work done as shaktis. Only they are sort of dependents all the time on Sahaja Yoga. They have to stand up in their own freedom. They have to be independent and they should have right ideas about everything. I am sure if the ladies come up that way, Sahaja Yoga will spread very much. Men are working much more for Sahaja Yoga than women are. I can understand, because they have families, they have children, these things. But the most important thing is that, once you take to active Sahaja Yoga, then your children also come up well, the family is also looked after. After all, there is this Divine Power which looks after all of you. You must believe that this Divine Power thinks, understands, It organises, above all It loves you. This Divine Power has to be understood, that It is now your own and that you are in the Realm of this Divine Power where you won’t have any problems whatsoever. If you leave things to the Divine Power it will all work out. As you know, about this scientist who found out about me. I have to just say that he asked me that, “How is it that so many hearts are made here?” I said, “People were singing the song ‘Sitting in the heart of the universe’, so this many hearts have come up.” But he said still, “Does this power hear?” I said, “No, it’s me only! I can hear. I was hearing the song and then the Power organises everything.” It’s something to be understood very well, that the power within you, what you have, understands and understands you also. It is a way of power which is your own power, but you cannot control it. It knows about you, whenever you are falling, when you are doing wrong, the same power which protects you and loves you like a mother will correct you and bring you to the right path. I think, now, a new century is starting and so many things have to happen. And all of you must decide that you will do this or that. Whatever is your understanding about spreading Sahaja Yoga, you should try do it. All of you should put your mind to it. If women can’t go out, they can write down something, they can write about their spiritual ascent or about whatever their experiences are. So in any case, all those who have got also very miraculous photographs, they should send it over here; very important is, because this gentleman is coming here in September and he is going to analyse all of them. So it will be very nice of you if you can send it. Also you write down about your different experiences you have had in Sahaj Yog. That will be also a good idea, he told me, that he would like to publish a book like that. And now the time has come for us to publish our miracles that have taken place. All of you have had some experience of miracles, so I have to request you to send, as soon as possible, written well, in English language or in Hindi language or Marathi, because I don’t understand other languages. And please don’t send me in other languages, we will have to appoint somebody to translate them in fourteen languages, it’s a difficult thing. So, I would request you to send that. I am sure today’s lecture, you will again go through it and understand it and work it out. May God bless you.

8/16/1998

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Shri Krishna Puja: He Gives You The Witness State

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Shri Krishna Puja. Cabella Ligure (Italy), 16 August 1998. Today we are going to have Shri Krishna Puja. It is a very important thing about the power of Shri Krishna that gives you a witness state. This is very important also because in these days of Kali Yuga and complete confusion of value system, all kinds of turmoil makes a very complex conditions to exist. The state of witnessing is only possible through meditation. You reach the state of thoughtless awareness. It is combined together. Now the witness state is such a state where you just do not react. If you react, then the problem starts. It's a very simple thing to understand that we react through our ego or through our conditioning. Otherwise there is no way to react. Anything. Now, for example there is a beautiful carpet here. As soon as I look at it, if I use my ego I'll start thinking, "Now, from where did they get it? How much they paid it?" This is the first reaction. Then you can even go further with it. Anger can come in. "Why did they bring such a nice carpet? What was the need to put it here?" Goes on like that, one after another. Now in my conditioning if I see these things, I would say that this color is not suited for Krishna Puja. They should have had another color for this Krishna Puja. So this kind goes on from one to another to another. But that means this conditioning is built up within us. All our problems of our conditioning are really horrible. For example, racialism. We have racialism-in America it's very much more-you can feel it, though they don't say. But if you go, say from Italy, you feel it. If you go from India also, you can feel it. Now, why this racialism is there? What is the reason? Why do we react to this kind of horrible hatred for another community or another color which is only skin deep? Now with rationality you might be able to explain, "Oh God, these people, they are absolutely useless," or "They have come to our country and are just troubling us." All these conditionings are there. But if you see when they talk of immigrants, the Americans must know they are immigrants, all of them. America never was their country. And they threw away all the other red Indians, took away their land and very nicely they are the owners of America. But the reaction is, those who are not white-complexion, they are all to be condemned, tortured. Now, if they are by nature violent then also this conditioning of violence comes in. Then they start killing each other. They have killed ruthlessly so many people thinking that they have a right to go into any country and kill everyone and take the land that is not their own. Actually, land doesn't belong to anybody as such, but nobody has right to go and occupy it and throw away the people who do not belong to that country. Yesterday was the Independence Day of India. And I have seen the flag going up-our national flag, and the British flag going down. All that has happened after so much of struggle, so much of sufferings of the people. Because they came to India, landed nicely there and became the masters. So this is also a kind of a conditioning that comes in a collective way-that you go into anybody's country, throw away the people from there or sort of occupy that place and become the masters. It's like going into somebody's house that belongs to somebody and throw away the people who are inside and nicely settle there as the owners and the masters. Because they have better intelligence- perhaps, the cunning more in them. With that cunning, if the white people think they can rule the black people is not where you can develop a witness state. So this kind of conditioning is like a plague and moves from one country to another country where some people think they're superior and make people look inferior. And the people also are there who accept this kind of a situation, accept this kind of a position where they are supposed to be equal. I would say, take the example of America because this has been celebrated by Americans, and because Krishna is the ruler-Krishna is the ruler of America. He, himself, was a dark person, Himself was on the black side. And in the same country where He rules, another great thing is that they don't realize that if all the black, all the Asians get out of that country now, I don't know what will happen to them. All their sports are managed by the blacks. If you want to see any American sport, 99% are black people. Then if you want to also see the music, because these black people, though they have black color, which is all right-as you have white, they have black color but they have a voice which the white people don't have. They can sing so well that no white people can compete with them. It's a full justice done to the color. Now if you take out the Asians, all doctors, all nurses, all architects, all accountants, all of them will disappear. Now, what will remain? You have to understand that it is color which is nothing to do, nothing to do with your intelligence, with your value system, with your spirit. We are here to achieve our spirituality. The spirit doesn't understand color because it is so superficial and it is so very cruel to condemn someone for the color. Same now is happening as the reaction. Every action has a reaction. So what happens is that you find the blacks are reacting. They are reacting and their reaction can be very dangerous. Every day I read the reactions are coming up so badly- not in America but all over they are now thinking they must rise and oppose this domination. But in their own country where they have people of different colors-little variation, I think. They are all black people, but little variation maybe. So they form groups and they start cutting each others' throats. I have seen on the television how ruthlessly they kill. I don't know what is the difference of color is, but somehow they have formed groups and this group will go and kill that and that group will come and kill. It's not like Kauravas and Pandavas. It's not two types of people absolutely opposite. It's not that the negative and the positive is there. It's not. They're all negative whether they're white or black. And they start quarreling and fighting with each other. Now this violence is growing so much. I think violence is the only weapon they use now to express themselves. You see here, something happens so somewhere there you find they explode bombs and kill so many innocent people. It's very, very sinful to do like that. Even the slightest violence is sinful, and this kind of a violence in the eyes of Shri Krishna are absolutely to be punished very badly. Now, this comes through ego. You think because you belong to one clan, another clan you can kill, or something like that. A funny idea into human mind comes in and you decide that you have a right to kill another person. One may say this comes from hatred, but hatred is an outcome of ego. When the ego starts acting, it collects all these things like hatred, also possessiveness, anger, violence. All these starts coming out of the ego, which actually blinds the person. You become blind to the fact that there is no need to have violence, no need to hate someone, no need to kill anyone because of this ego that is there. Now one may say, "Mother, how does this ego build up?" Of course, mostly it is due to reactions. Also, it is due to the conditioning. If the child is told from the childhood that, "You should hate these people, they are to be hated. They are wrong people, they are bad people." They just start doing that. When they grow up they start showing that hatred is now like a cactus, growing very big and is killing others. There's no justification for this kind of a behavior by human beings. If they are human beings, they have to have human qualities. And that is what is possible only if you learn how to just witness and not to react. For example, you see two cocks are fighting. You enjoy that. Two cocks are fighting. People are enjoying. One cock dies-they are very happy, as if the one which died had killed his parents or did something like that. Very surprising. Now in Spain, even now there are these bullfights going on every year. Six bullfights every year and the hall contains more than ten times more than we have here. And is always full. And now the women have taken to fight the bulls. Now if the bull is not killed, they allow the bulls to go on the street and kill people. This kind of a violent enjoyment is still lingering into the minds of the people. It is so sad to see people who are now talking of humanity, talking of peace, talking of joy, are still enjoying these violent acts. Either they are doing, or they want to watch. So then you go to these films and things that have been created of a horrible violence and people enjoy it, enjoy such films and such films are again created. Now, if you really become a witness state, if you are in a witness state, then what will happen? If you watch any such things that are happening, it will subside. If you are in a witness state and if that level, then no accident will take place in your sight. Even if there is an accident, then you can save the person, you can help the person very actively. That's in a very small scale. But even in a very large scale, you can do it-something wonderful. I remember I was not very old at that time, but we were living in a house very close to the Secretariat where they had a strike. And they were asking for separate Maharashtra or something. So the police was standing there and, by the order of the chief minister, they were shooting at everyone who was coming. Anyone who passed through that road, they were shooting. They were enjoying a shooting game, all of them. I saw all this and I just couldn't bear it. I just went down, went down and asked the police to stop it. They stopped! You'd be amazed. They stopped. Then I carried those people who were wounded up in My house, took out their bullets and all that, called the ambulance and saved them. But for that, one thing was there-I was in a state of witnessing, so you become fearless. There is no fear at all once you learn how to have the state of witnessing. Because when you are not witnessing, you get disturbed, you get upset, you get excited. You may join, also, this wrong type of people. But if you are in a state of witnessing-that, itself, is a power. And that witnessing state helps you to win over so many difficulties of other people. There's a Chinese story about a saint. So one king brought his cock to him and said, "You train my cock in such a way that he should win." He said, "All right." So he kept the cock with the king for one month. And when the show started, different cocks came from different places and they all started fighting. This cock just stood up and was watching, just watching. And other cocks got such a fright. They couldn't understand how this fellow is not disturbed. He's just watching, he's standing, he's doing nothing. So all they disappeared from the arena and he was declared as the successful one. So this is the best way to bring nonviolence. In violent places, you go and stand steadily there, facing all the things that are happening. And that witness state acts, acts and stops that kind of a violence that is going on. But witness state is not a mental state. It is a state of a spiritual ascent where you become a witness. Best way to practice witness state is not to criticize anyone. Not to criticize. I've seen people who are all the time criticizing others. They cannot criticize themselves so they start criticizing others so much so that they don't even see what's wrong with them. They don't even say what wrong they have done to others because they think they have a right to criticize others. And they enjoy this criticism very well. Actually, there's nothing to be criticized. You just watch and see for yourself. That's all is your right. You have no right to criticize anyone or anything. But some people think if you do not criticize, then it will go on like this and it will never stop. It's not that. Once you watch the thing yourself-only just watch-your attention itself is enlightened now. With that enlightened attention you can just watch and stop the nonsense that is there. But we are always conscious that we are something great and we have to do this and we have to do that. Under these circumstances, what happens is that you become another problem. Because what can you do? You can't do anything. But what you can do is to watch. By watching and by just seeing things as they are you really develop a very different state of being. Firstly, all such people who are just witness, what happens to them is very interesting-that their memory loss is much less because whatever they see becomes like a picture to them-like a, we can say, they can tell you even the color, the folding, everything. Whatever they see is so much in their mind, like a photo, and they can tell you exactly what they have seen. And your memory is not lost. While if you react onto everything, your memory becomes horrible. People are so much habituated with reacting. Like I know of one gentleman, he had a habit of reacting and I was going with him in the car. So he was reading every advertisement, every name of every shop, every person, every thing he was just telling who is that, what is that, this, that. I was wondering, "Look at this gentleman, he's talking so much. What will happen to him?"But ultimately I found that all such people who are all the time reacting become-actually they have I think senile decay or maybe they become forgetful, very forgetful. But this is not the only loss we have. With this kind of people when they are formed into a collective, they can be very dangerous people. Because with that kind of a nature, they have to do something. They must do something because, after all, they are combined together for a purpose or, we can say, for some reactions which all of them have built up. In small things, in big things, you'll find people do like that. And some people who are very much, very much developed in this kind of behavior, can collect lots of people and do any amount of harm to others. I would get the picture of Hitler. For nine years this fellow was watching what wrongs Jews are doing. He wouldn't watch what Germans are doing-what wrong they are doing to the society. And that time the society also was very bad because they were having all kinds of licentiousness. Now he was noting down, "These Jews are like this, they do this, they take money, they're lending money." All kinds of things he got into his head. As a result of that, he built up a reaction into him that, "We must somehow or other see that these people go away from Germany." But then he thought, "Even if they go away from Germany, they'll prosper again. So, why not kill them?" I mean, to such an extent that even, you know, you cannot see such films. You cannot see anything of that nature that Hitler did. But he did it. And people who followed him also did it-without feeling any hitch as if it was a matter of great pleasure or joy, or maybe it's a duty. How could they get duty-bound to such a horrible thing like killing thousands and thousands of Jews? What Jews had done to them? They could have corrected it. But why did they indulge into such violence and they wanted to finish all the Jews of the world? It can be very, very dangerous because once you start losing your witness state, you can fall into negative collectivity. And thus this negative collectivity acts, acts in such a bad manner that all the conflicts of the world, all the problems of the world, perhaps, are related with this. So as Sahaj Yogis, what should we do? We should not react. We should not react. If you see something wrong-all right, you meditate on that. You meditate. If you find anything wrong happening, all right, meditate on that. If somebody is unkind to you, at that moment do not react. Afterwards, when that person is quieter you tell him. Or tell her. Because at that time when he is so volatile or she's volatile, if you tell, nothing will happen. Gradually-I don't say always-you can win over such people. But gradually you may be able to make them understand that it's wrong, it's wrong to do things which they have been doing. In a way, you see, the reaction to anything which is stupid also can be very self-destroying. Like some people have built in reactions, like you have seen this Mr. Clinton behaving. I mean you can't understand a man of his stature, of his level, should have such reactions. But must be from his childhood or I don't know how he built it up. Now he's in trouble. Very shameful. This also is, I think perhaps, comes from a very great indulgence into reactions. Why should you react? To a woman, I can't understand, or to a man. And this is one of the biggest problems of today's culture, especially in all the developed countries-that all the time men are looking at women, women are looking at men. For what? Perhaps they look at women because they want to see how many women are looking at them. Or they look at men, perhaps maybe that how many men are looking at them. Why? Why is this happening? Because they have some inferiority complex in them or that they want to attract the attention of everyone. I mean horrible things are done these days to attract the attention of others, to get the sympathy of others. I mean if you see the level of your awareness, where it goes, you'll be amazed. Like they say one lady killed her eight children just to get sympathy from others. Think of such horrible things people are doing! Now if you want others to have reaction, you do this. That they want others to see you or to react to-I don't know-to give you importance, you can say. But what's the use of such an empty importance? But people are seeking it. And it's a very common disease of modern life. All the time-how you should look, how you should appear, how you should walk. Everything is so stupid and wastage of energy. God has created human beings very, very different. None of them are copies, none of them. Even in the nature you find the leaves of trees, they are so unique you cannot match them with another. So that's how human beings are created-differently. They are made like that. One has to accept. Whatever you are, it's all right. Why do you want to look like another person? This kind of reaction is extremely stupid, I think-that we are spoiling our energy and life for something absolutely worthless. Now you being Sahaja Yogis, your worth is great. You have come here to emancipate human beings from these silly ideas and foolish ways. The way people are behaving, I don't know whom to blame, but suddenly our attention has become very diversified. Our reactions have become very, very funny. One doesn't know why people react like that and then why do we worry about what people react. All these things are not only on individual level but also on a collective level. As a result, you see, new kinds of value system has been created. Now for a mother, say for example, she'll boast of how many men are running after her. Or she would think she's a great actress. I don't know what they think of themselves. And the way they talk about themselves is something surprising. If she is a mother, she has to be a good mother and she has to look like a mother, but they're so much engrossed, or they are so much standing on the basis that they have to be extremely attractive, they have to be the queens or I don't know what, what a position they want to have. Same with the men. You see, if you have something within you, if there is any quality within you, is there anything that can qualify you as a great man, it will be showing. You don't have to advertise. You don't have to pamper it. Nothing. It will be showing. So that indifference if you have towards the public opinion, I think you can achieve a lot. Most of the frustrations will disappear. In Sahaja Yoga, also, I have seen people want to show off a lot. I know who does that. But they should know. Once you do not react to outside, you start reacting to inside and introspection will start properly. When you see yourself, you'll be amazed how admiring you are, how happy you are. Now if you go beyond that a little more, then you don't think about these things, you just become thoughtless and you just stand up as a person who is respected, whose company is wanted, who is loved and who is cared for. So one should not worry as to what people react, what they say about you, what they think about you. You should just introspect and see for yourself. After some time you don't need even introspection. It is a kind of a state I'm talking about where Shri Krishna told Arjuna that, "I will not fight. So in between Me and the army, My army, you have to select." So Kaurava said, "No, we'll take your army. You give us your army and we'll strengthen our army." But Arjuna said, "I don't want army. I want You. You don't want to fight, it's all right." Because though He will be there in a witness state only, He won't be fighting but His Power will act. He doesn't have to fight. He doesn't have to do anything. But His own Power which is outwardly is silent but will act. And that is how we will win the war. So this power of witnessing you all should develop. Try to develop it-that when you are reacting, stop reaction. Stop reaction about everything. You'll be amazed. You will find yourself a very, very powerful perso-in the sense you'll have no ambitions, you'll have no desires, you'll have no special fondness or anything. But just you are witnessing the drama. It's very interesting to witness also. Because then you understand the humor behind everything. You understand the stupidity behind everything. You understand also how people have been so violent and you'll just laugh at it. You don't get upset, excited, nothing. Just laugh at it. After some time you'll be amazed. Your witness state will increase. And when in the collective all of you have that witness state, you can do wonders without doing anything, without saying anything, without acting. Only your presence, itself, can work it out. I don't say that it will have effect on everyone. No, can't say. But most of the people. Any person who is in that state, he is the one who brings peace, he brings joy. I'll tell you a story of a Sahaj Yogi who was going to another island-he was living in an island-for Sahaj Yoga work. And he found the whole sky was covered with very black clouds, thundering clouds. So he just looked at them like this and he said, "Wait 'til I come back. I am going to do Mother's work." He went to another island. He did the program. Everything happened and when he came back he wanted to sleep and suddenly it started raining and thundering. Even the nature understands. Nature understands that you are in that great state of witnessing. But if you are very ambitious-even in Sahaja Yoga I have known people who are very ambitious. They want to become leaders-I don't know what else. Actually it's all a myth. All mythical things they want to get to and worry their heads about mythical things. Once you learn how to witness, you'll know the myth. You will know the absurdity. You'll know the maya. So to overcome the problems of personality, the best thing is to witness. Practice witnessing. Everything. Before talking, practice witnessing. Before giving any comments, just start witnessing. It's a very, very satisfying attitude. In Shri Krishna's life, the greatest Power He was a witnessing personality. Without doing anything, without taking a sword in His hands, without talking about fighting, He's the one who has helped Pandavas to win the war. Not only but through His Gita He has tried to tell us what we have to do to win the war over evil. Whole Gita is the witness state He has described about. If you read it, Gita now, from this angle, you'll be amazed to find that everywhere He is like a witness, describing everything, whatever He sees. And He will tell you how this witness state has helped Him to understand, also, human beings. He is a man who was, we should say, was not such a big businessman. Because first He told you that how to become Sthita Pragnya. Sthita Pragnya is the one who is in the witness state. If you see all these verses on Sthita Pragnya it's nothing but a person who is in witness state-how he lives, how he is happy, how he looks at things. It's interesting, very interesting. First He describes that-not like the shop people who will describe first the bad thing, but He starts with the best. Then He goes down to other things and tells you that whatever are the three aspects. The first he talks about karma and many people get stuck at that point-that whatever karmas we are doing, we'll get the punyas out of it. He's not. He didn't say that. If you know Him, then you know He never meant that way. What He says that, "Whatever karmas you have to do, you can do it, but leave the results to the Divine Power." Results are from the Divine Power. Now maybe that some people think that they have got money because they have done good karmas and start doing all kinds of bad karmas with that money. He didn't say that. He said, "Leave the results to the Divine Power." Because Divine Power knows best what is for you. And so, if you think you have done something good- you have served somewhere to the poor, you have done something really good for the women, or anything-the result of that, you leave it at the Feet of the Divine Power. Means that you don't build up an ego for whatever you have done. Very well He has written this but to understand Him, one should have again the witness state to see what He has written about karma. Then He has written about gnyana. Gnyana means where you know. But that doesn't mean you go on reading books-never. Gnyana means to know what you are. That means you have to be a Sahaj Yogi by which you know so many things through vibrations. Gnyana doesn't mean reading books. By reading books you become more ignorant. So gnyana means that you must know your Self. If you do not know your Self, you do not know anything. So it comes to that you must get your Self-Realization. You must know your Self. It's the second thing He has said. Lastly, He talks about bhakti. Bhakti is devotion. That, too, is another trick of Shri Krishna, the way He described bhakti. Now you find people on the street, "Hare Rama, hare Krishna" singing. In one word He has concluded, He says you must do ananya bhakti. Ananya means when there is not the other. That means when you submerge yourself into the Divine. You are one with the Divine, then you should do bhakti, otherwise I do not accept. He says that if you give Me patrum-some leaves, or some fruits, or some flowers, I will accept. I will accept, but for Him the real bhakti is only possible when you become one with the Divine. Otherwise, it's just a show. So the third bhakti part also comes after Self-Realization. Now in the bhakti, you see, there is no "what is the value is" and "how much you paid for it" and "how you bought it." It's not important. For that a great example is of Shri Rama when He went in the jungles. There was an old lady from the shidul's class-means she was one of the bhilni, as they call it-these people live in the jungles. So she brought some berries and offered it to Shri Rama. And she said that, "I have tasted all of them and they are not sour. All of them I've tasted." Now after tasting something in India people call it, it's become not to be eaten. I mean we cannot taste something and give it to somebody else. It's not done according to Indian culture. But Shri Rama took it. He took it. He said, "What beautiful fruits! I've never eaten such fruit!" So Lakshmana got very angry. He said, "You stupid woman. You have eaten these fruits and that's what you are giving to Shri Ram. Why do you do that?" So Sita was watching. So she asked Him, "Why don't you give me some of these fruits?" He gave. She said, "My God, what nice fruits these are! I've never eaten such good fruits." So then Lakshmana also His temper came down and He said, "Can You not give me some?" She said, "Why? You were so angry, why should I give you?" So ultimately, She gives him that fruit. So what did He see in those fruit was the love, the love of this old lady living in the forest, her love which was important. So when you want to give something also, it is your love which is important. Not how much you paid, what value you have spent-nothing-is the love with which you do it. And that love should be evident. If such things can happen, even with Shri Krishna the same thing happened. He went to-they called them Hastinapur in those days where these Kauravas were living. And the king was Duryodhana. And he asked Him, "You come and stay with us and have food." He said, "No, no I won't be able to come." He goes to another person, Vidura, who was the son of a maid servant. Vidura. Because Vidura was a realized soul. He was a realized soul. So He went and ate in his house where he had cooked very simple food. Because he was a realized soul, to Him he was the best to have food with. So your value system should be based on such things like love. Where you can get love, you should be attached to that person. Where you get a realized soul, you should be attached to them, and not to worldly people who think no end of themselves and think they are great. They may be. But to you as Sahaja Yogis, it's the love of people which should be respected, should be understood and to be felt. But if you have no witness state, then you'll see how much money this man has got, how many cars he has got, what clothes he's wearing. All these considerations will be there. But in a witness state, you will understand that you'll get vibrations from this person. You will understand that person is spiritual. And that's how you will stick to such a person. You will not go for artificial things, but genuine personalities that are there. May God bless you all. Thank you. [Before Shri Mataji left the hall, She said:] Hello. I would say that after this Puja, I expected all of you to keep quiet. But everybody was talking. I don't know why, what had happened to you? You must enjoy the silence within yourself. I hope you'll understand that. Thank you.

Shri Krishna Puja. Cabella Ligure (Italy), 16 August 1998. Today we are going to have Shri Krishna Puja. It is a very important thing about the power of Shri Krishna that gives you a witness state. This is very important also because in these days of Kali Yuga and complete confusion of value system, all kinds of turmoil makes a very complex conditions to exist. The state of witnessing is only possible through meditation. You reach the state of thoughtless awareness. It is combined together. Now the witness state is such a state where you just do not react. If you react, then the problem starts. It's a very simple thing to understand that we react through our ego or through our conditioning. Otherwise there is no way to react. Anything. Now, for example there is a beautiful carpet here. As soon as I look at it, if I use my ego I'll start thinking, "Now, from where did they get it? How much they paid it?" This is the first reaction. Then you can even go further with it. Anger can come in. "Why did they bring such a nice carpet? What was the need to put it here?" Goes on like that, one after another. Now in my conditioning if I see these things, I would say that this color is not suited for Krishna Puja. They should have had another color for this Krishna Puja. So this kind goes on from one to another to another. But that means this conditioning is built up within us. All our problems of our conditioning are really horrible. For example, racialism. We have racialism-in America it's very much more-you can feel it, though they don't say. But if you go, say from Italy, you feel it. If you go from India also, you can feel it. Now, why this racialism is there? What is the reason? Why do we react to this kind of horrible hatred for another community or another color which is only skin deep? Now with rationality you might be able to explain, "Oh God, these people, they are absolutely useless," or "They have come to our country and are just troubling us." All these conditionings are there. But if you see when they talk of immigrants, the Americans must know they are immigrants, all of them. America never was their country. And they threw away all the other red Indians, took away their land and very nicely they are the owners of America. But the reaction is, those who are not white-complexion, they are all to be condemned, tortured. Now, if they are by nature violent then also this conditioning of violence comes in. Then they start killing each other. They have killed ruthlessly so many people thinking that they have a right to go into any country and kill everyone and take the land that is not their own. Actually, land doesn't belong to anybody as such, but nobody has right to go and occupy it and throw away the people who do not belong to that country. Yesterday was the Independence Day of India. And I have seen the flag going up-our national flag, and the British flag going down. All that has happened after so much of struggle, so much of sufferings of the people. Because they came to India, landed nicely there and became the masters. So this is also a kind of a conditioning that comes in a collective way-that you go into anybody's country, throw away the people from there or sort of occupy that place and become the masters. It's like going into somebody's house that belongs to somebody and throw away the people who are inside and nicely settle there as the owners and the masters. Because they have better intelligence- perhaps, the cunning more in them. With that cunning, if the white people think they can rule the black people is not where you can develop a witness state. So this kind of conditioning is like a plague and moves from one country to another country where some people think they're superior and make people look inferior. And the people also are there who accept this kind of a situation, accept this kind of a position where they are supposed to be equal. I would say, take the example of America because this has been celebrated by Americans, and because Krishna is the ruler-Krishna is the ruler of America. He, himself, was a dark person, Himself was on the black side. And in the same country where He rules, another great thing is that they don't realize that if all the black, all the Asians get out of that country now, I don't know what will happen to them. All their sports are managed by the blacks. If you want to see any American sport, 99% are black people. Then if you want to also see the music, because these black people, though they have black color, which is all right-as you have white, they have black color but they have a voice which the white people don't have. They can sing so well that no white people can compete with them. It's a full justice done to the color. Now if you take out the Asians, all doctors, all nurses, all architects, all accountants, all of them will disappear. Now, what will remain? You have to understand that it is color which is nothing to do, nothing to do with your intelligence, with your value system, with your spirit. We are here to achieve our spirituality. The spirit doesn't understand color because it is so superficial and it is so very cruel to condemn someone for the color. Same now is happening as the reaction. Every action has a reaction. So what happens is that you find the blacks are reacting. They are reacting and their reaction can be very dangerous. Every day I read the reactions are coming up so badly- not in America but all over they are now thinking they must rise and oppose this domination. But in their own country where they have people of different colors-little variation, I think. They are all black people, but little variation maybe. So they form groups and they start cutting each others' throats. I have seen on the television how ruthlessly they kill. I don't know what is the difference of color is, but somehow they have formed groups and this group will go and kill that and that group will come and kill. It's not like Kauravas and Pandavas. It's not two types of people absolutely opposite. It's not that the negative and the positive is there. It's not. They're all negative whether they're white or black. And they start quarreling and fighting with each other. Now this violence is growing so much. I think violence is the only weapon they use now to express themselves. You see here, something happens so somewhere there you find they explode bombs and kill so many innocent people. It's very, very sinful to do like that. Even the slightest violence is sinful, and this kind of a violence in the eyes of Shri Krishna are absolutely to be punished very badly. Now, this comes through ego. You think because you belong to one clan, another clan you can kill, or something like that. A funny idea into human mind comes in and you decide that you have a right to kill another person. One may say this comes from hatred, but hatred is an outcome of ego. When the ego starts acting, it collects all these things like hatred, also possessiveness, anger, violence. All these starts coming out of the ego, which actually blinds the person. You become blind to the fact that there is no need to have violence, no need to hate someone, no need to kill anyone because of this ego that is there. Now one may say, "Mother, how does this ego build up?" Of course, mostly it is due to reactions. Also, it is due to the conditioning. If the child is told from the childhood that, "You should hate these people, they are to be hated. They are wrong people, they are bad people." They just start doing that. When they grow up they start showing that hatred is now like a cactus, growing very big and is killing others. There's no justification for this kind of a behavior by human beings. If they are human beings, they have to have human qualities. And that is what is possible only if you learn how to just witness and not to react. For example, you see two cocks are fighting. You enjoy that. Two cocks are fighting. People are enjoying. One cock dies-they are very happy, as if the one which died had killed his parents or did something like that. Very surprising. Now in Spain, even now there are these bullfights going on every year. Six bullfights every year and the hall contains more than ten times more than we have here. And is always full. And now the women have taken to fight the bulls. Now if the bull is not killed, they allow the bulls to go on the street and kill people. This kind of a violent enjoyment is still lingering into the minds of the people. It is so sad to see people who are now talking of humanity, talking of peace, talking of joy, are still enjoying these violent acts. Either they are doing, or they want to watch. So then you go to these films and things that have been created of a horrible violence and people enjoy it, enjoy such films and such films are again created. Now, if you really become a witness state, if you are in a witness state, then what will happen? If you watch any such things that are happening, it will subside. If you are in a witness state and if that level, then no accident will take place in your sight. Even if there is an accident, then you can save the person, you can help the person very actively. That's in a very small scale. But even in a very large scale, you can do it-something wonderful. I remember I was not very old at that time, but we were living in a house very close to the Secretariat where they had a strike. And they were asking for separate Maharashtra or something. So the police was standing there and, by the order of the chief minister, they were shooting at everyone who was coming. Anyone who passed through that road, they were shooting. They were enjoying a shooting game, all of them. I saw all this and I just couldn't bear it. I just went down, went down and asked the police to stop it. They stopped! You'd be amazed. They stopped. Then I carried those people who were wounded up in My house, took out their bullets and all that, called the ambulance and saved them. But for that, one thing was there-I was in a state of witnessing, so you become fearless. There is no fear at all once you learn how to have the state of witnessing. Because when you are not witnessing, you get disturbed, you get upset, you get excited. You may join, also, this wrong type of people. But if you are in a state of witnessing-that, itself, is a power. And that witnessing state helps you to win over so many difficulties of other people. There's a Chinese story about a saint. So one king brought his cock to him and said, "You train my cock in such a way that he should win." He said, "All right." So he kept the cock with the king for one month. And when the show started, different cocks came from different places and they all started fighting. This cock just stood up and was watching, just watching. And other cocks got such a fright. They couldn't understand how this fellow is not disturbed. He's just watching, he's standing, he's doing nothing. So all they disappeared from the arena and he was declared as the successful one. So this is the best way to bring nonviolence. In violent places, you go and stand steadily there, facing all the things that are happening. And that witness state acts, acts and stops that kind of a violence that is going on. But witness state is not a mental state. It is a state of a spiritual ascent where you become a witness. Best way to practice witness state is not to criticize anyone. Not to criticize. I've seen people who are all the time criticizing others. They cannot criticize themselves so they start criticizing others so much so that they don't even see what's wrong with them. They don't even say what wrong they have done to others because they think they have a right to criticize others. And they enjoy this criticism very well. Actually, there's nothing to be criticized. You just watch and see for yourself. That's all is your right. You have no right to criticize anyone or anything. But some people think if you do not criticize, then it will go on like this and it will never stop. It's not that. Once you watch the thing yourself-only just watch-your attention itself is enlightened now. With that enlightened attention you can just watch and stop the nonsense that is there. But we are always conscious that we are something great and we have to do this and we have to do that. Under these circumstances, what happens is that you become another problem. Because what can you do? You can't do anything. But what you can do is to watch. By watching and by just seeing things as they are you really develop a very different state of being. Firstly, all such people who are just witness, what happens to them is very interesting-that their memory loss is much less because whatever they see becomes like a picture to them-like a, we can say, they can tell you even the color, the folding, everything. Whatever they see is so much in their mind, like a photo, and they can tell you exactly what they have seen. And your memory is not lost. While if you react onto everything, your memory becomes horrible. People are so much habituated with reacting. Like I know of one gentleman, he had a habit of reacting and I was going with him in the car. So he was reading every advertisement, every name of every shop, every person, every thing he was just telling who is that, what is that, this, that. I was wondering, "Look at this gentleman, he's talking so much. What will happen to him?"But ultimately I found that all such people who are all the time reacting become-actually they have I think senile decay or maybe they become forgetful, very forgetful. But this is not the only loss we have. With this kind of people when they are formed into a collective, they can be very dangerous people. Because with that kind of a nature, they have to do something. They must do something because, after all, they are combined together for a purpose or, we can say, for some reactions which all of them have built up. In small things, in big things, you'll find people do like that. And some people who are very much, very much developed in this kind of behavior, can collect lots of people and do any amount of harm to others. I would get the picture of Hitler. For nine years this fellow was watching what wrongs Jews are doing. He wouldn't watch what Germans are doing-what wrong they are doing to the society. And that time the society also was very bad because they were having all kinds of licentiousness. Now he was noting down, "These Jews are like this, they do this, they take money, they're lending money." All kinds of things he got into his head. As a result of that, he built up a reaction into him that, "We must somehow or other see that these people go away from Germany." But then he thought, "Even if they go away from Germany, they'll prosper again. So, why not kill them?" I mean, to such an extent that even, you know, you cannot see such films. You cannot see anything of that nature that Hitler did. But he did it. And people who followed him also did it-without feeling any hitch as if it was a matter of great pleasure or joy, or maybe it's a duty. How could they get duty-bound to such a horrible thing like killing thousands and thousands of Jews? What Jews had done to them? They could have corrected it. But why did they indulge into such violence and they wanted to finish all the Jews of the world? It can be very, very dangerous because once you start losing your witness state, you can fall into negative collectivity. And thus this negative collectivity acts, acts in such a bad manner that all the conflicts of the world, all the problems of the world, perhaps, are related with this. So as Sahaj Yogis, what should we do? We should not react. We should not react. If you see something wrong-all right, you meditate on that. You meditate. If you find anything wrong happening, all right, meditate on that. If somebody is unkind to you, at that moment do not react. Afterwards, when that person is quieter you tell him. Or tell her. Because at that time when he is so volatile or she's volatile, if you tell, nothing will happen. Gradually-I don't say always-you can win over such people. But gradually you may be able to make them understand that it's wrong, it's wrong to do things which they have been doing. In a way, you see, the reaction to anything which is stupid also can be very self-destroying. Like some people have built in reactions, like you have seen this Mr. Clinton behaving. I mean you can't understand a man of his stature, of his level, should have such reactions. But must be from his childhood or I don't know how he built it up. Now he's in trouble. Very shameful. This also is, I think perhaps, comes from a very great indulgence into reactions. Why should you react? To a woman, I can't understand, or to a man. And this is one of the biggest problems of today's culture, especially in all the developed countries-that all the time men are looking at women, women are looking at men. For what? Perhaps they look at women because they want to see how many women are looking at them. Or they look at men, perhaps maybe that how many men are looking at them. Why? Why is this happening? Because they have some inferiority complex in them or that they want to attract the attention of everyone. I mean horrible things are done these days to attract the attention of others, to get the sympathy of others. I mean if you see the level of your awareness, where it goes, you'll be amazed. Like they say one lady killed her eight children just to get sympathy from others. Think of such horrible things people are doing! Now if you want others to have reaction, you do this. That they want others to see you or to react to-I don't know-to give you importance, you can say. But what's the use of such an empty importance? But people are seeking it. And it's a very common disease of modern life. All the time-how you should look, how you should appear, how you should walk. Everything is so stupid and wastage of energy. God has created human beings very, very different. None of them are copies, none of them. Even in the nature you find the leaves of trees, they are so unique you cannot match them with another. So that's how human beings are created-differently. They are made like that. One has to accept. Whatever you are, it's all right. Why do you want to look like another person? This kind of reaction is extremely stupid, I think-that we are spoiling our energy and life for something absolutely worthless. Now you being Sahaja Yogis, your worth is great. You have come here to emancipate human beings from these silly ideas and foolish ways. The way people are behaving, I don't know whom to blame, but suddenly our attention has become very diversified. Our reactions have become very, very funny. One doesn't know why people react like that and then why do we worry about what people react. All these things are not only on individual level but also on a collective level. As a result, you see, new kinds of value system has been created. Now for a mother, say for example, she'll boast of how many men are running after her. Or she would think she's a great actress. I don't know what they think of themselves. And the way they talk about themselves is something surprising. If she is a mother, she has to be a good mother and she has to look like a mother, but they're so much engrossed, or they are so much standing on the basis that they have to be extremely attractive, they have to be the queens or I don't know what, what a position they want to have. Same with the men. You see, if you have something within you, if there is any quality within you, is there anything that can qualify you as a great man, it will be showing. You don't have to advertise. You don't have to pamper it. Nothing. It will be showing. So that indifference if you have towards the public opinion, I think you can achieve a lot. Most of the frustrations will disappear. In Sahaja Yoga, also, I have seen people want to show off a lot. I know who does that. But they should know. Once you do not react to outside, you start reacting to inside and introspection will start properly. When you see yourself, you'll be amazed how admiring you are, how happy you are. Now if you go beyond that a little more, then you don't think about these things, you just become thoughtless and you just stand up as a person who is respected, whose company is wanted, who is loved and who is cared for. So one should not worry as to what people react, what they say about you, what they think about you. You should just introspect and see for yourself. After some time you don't need even introspection. It is a kind of a state I'm talking about where Shri Krishna told Arjuna that, "I will not fight. So in between Me and the army, My army, you have to select." So Kaurava said, "No, we'll take your army. You give us your army and we'll strengthen our army." But Arjuna said, "I don't want army. I want You. You don't want to fight, it's all right." Because though He will be there in a witness state only, He won't be fighting but His Power will act. He doesn't have to fight. He doesn't have to do anything. But His own Power which is outwardly is silent but will act. And that is how we will win the war. So this power of witnessing you all should develop. Try to develop it-that when you are reacting, stop reaction. Stop reaction about everything. You'll be amazed. You will find yourself a very, very powerful perso-in the sense you'll have no ambitions, you'll have no desires, you'll have no special fondness or anything. But just you are witnessing the drama. It's very interesting to witness also. Because then you understand the humor behind everything. You understand the stupidity behind everything. You understand also how people have been so violent and you'll just laugh at it. You don't get upset, excited, nothing. Just laugh at it. After some time you'll be amazed. Your witness state will increase. And when in the collective all of you have that witness state, you can do wonders without doing anything, without saying anything, without acting. Only your presence, itself, can work it out. I don't say that it will have effect on everyone. No, can't say. But most of the people. Any person who is in that state, he is the one who brings peace, he brings joy. I'll tell you a story of a Sahaj Yogi who was going to another island-he was living in an island-for Sahaj Yoga work. And he found the whole sky was covered with very black clouds, thundering clouds. So he just looked at them like this and he said, "Wait 'til I come back. I am going to do Mother's work." He went to another island. He did the program. Everything happened and when he came back he wanted to sleep and suddenly it started raining and thundering. Even the nature understands. Nature understands that you are in that great state of witnessing. But if you are very ambitious-even in Sahaja Yoga I have known people who are very ambitious. They want to become leaders-I don't know what else. Actually it's all a myth. All mythical things they want to get to and worry their heads about mythical things. Once you learn how to witness, you'll know the myth. You will know the absurdity. You'll know the maya. So to overcome the problems of personality, the best thing is to witness. Practice witnessing. Everything. Before talking, practice witnessing. Before giving any comments, just start witnessing. It's a very, very satisfying attitude. In Shri Krishna's life, the greatest Power He was a witnessing personality. Without doing anything, without taking a sword in His hands, without talking about fighting, He's the one who has helped Pandavas to win the war. Not only but through His Gita He has tried to tell us what we have to do to win the war over evil. Whole Gita is the witness state He has described about. If you read it, Gita now, from this angle, you'll be amazed to find that everywhere He is like a witness, describing everything, whatever He sees. And He will tell you how this witness state has helped Him to understand, also, human beings. He is a man who was, we should say, was not such a big businessman. Because first He told you that how to become Sthita Pragnya. Sthita Pragnya is the one who is in the witness state. If you see all these verses on Sthita Pragnya it's nothing but a person who is in witness state-how he lives, how he is happy, how he looks at things. It's interesting, very interesting. First He describes that-not like the shop people who will describe first the bad thing, but He starts with the best. Then He goes down to other things and tells you that whatever are the three aspects. The first he talks about karma and many people get stuck at that point-that whatever karmas we are doing, we'll get the punyas out of it. He's not. He didn't say that. If you know Him, then you know He never meant that way. What He says that, "Whatever karmas you have to do, you can do it, but leave the results to the Divine Power." Results are from the Divine Power. Now maybe that some people think that they have got money because they have done good karmas and start doing all kinds of bad karmas with that money. He didn't say that. He said, "Leave the results to the Divine Power." Because Divine Power knows best what is for you. And so, if you think you have done something good- you have served somewhere to the poor, you have done something really good for the women, or anything-the result of that, you leave it at the Feet of the Divine Power. Means that you don't build up an ego for whatever you have done. Very well He has written this but to understand Him, one should have again the witness state to see what He has written about karma. Then He has written about gnyana. Gnyana means where you know. But that doesn't mean you go on reading books-never. Gnyana means to know what you are. That means you have to be a Sahaj Yogi by which you know so many things through vibrations. Gnyana doesn't mean reading books. By reading books you become more ignorant. So gnyana means that you must know your Self. If you do not know your Self, you do not know anything. So it comes to that you must get your Self-Realization. You must know your Self. It's the second thing He has said. Lastly, He talks about bhakti. Bhakti is devotion. That, too, is another trick of Shri Krishna, the way He described bhakti. Now you find people on the street, "Hare Rama, hare Krishna" singing. In one word He has concluded, He says you must do ananya bhakti. Ananya means when there is not the other. That means when you submerge yourself into the Divine. You are one with the Divine, then you should do bhakti, otherwise I do not accept. He says that if you give Me patrum-some leaves, or some fruits, or some flowers, I will accept. I will accept, but for Him the real bhakti is only possible when you become one with the Divine. Otherwise, it's just a show. So the third bhakti part also comes after Self-Realization. Now in the bhakti, you see, there is no "what is the value is" and "how much you paid for it" and "how you bought it." It's not important. For that a great example is of Shri Rama when He went in the jungles. There was an old lady from the shidul's class-means she was one of the bhilni, as they call it-these people live in the jungles. So she brought some berries and offered it to Shri Rama. And she said that, "I have tasted all of them and they are not sour. All of them I've tasted." Now after tasting something in India people call it, it's become not to be eaten. I mean we cannot taste something and give it to somebody else. It's not done according to Indian culture. But Shri Rama took it. He took it. He said, "What beautiful fruits! I've never eaten such fruit!" So Lakshmana got very angry. He said, "You stupid woman. You have eaten these fruits and that's what you are giving to Shri Ram. Why do you do that?" So Sita was watching. So she asked Him, "Why don't you give me some of these fruits?" He gave. She said, "My God, what nice fruits these are! I've never eaten such good fruits." So then Lakshmana also His temper came down and He said, "Can You not give me some?" She said, "Why? You were so angry, why should I give you?" So ultimately, She gives him that fruit. So what did He see in those fruit was the love, the love of this old lady living in the forest, her love which was important. So when you want to give something also, it is your love which is important. Not how much you paid, what value you have spent-nothing-is the love with which you do it. And that love should be evident. If such things can happen, even with Shri Krishna the same thing happened. He went to-they called them Hastinapur in those days where these Kauravas were living. And the king was Duryodhana. And he asked Him, "You come and stay with us and have food." He said, "No, no I won't be able to come." He goes to another person, Vidura, who was the son of a maid servant. Vidura. Because Vidura was a realized soul. He was a realized soul. So He went and ate in his house where he had cooked very simple food. Because he was a realized soul, to Him he was the best to have food with. So your value system should be based on such things like love. Where you can get love, you should be attached to that person. Where you get a realized soul, you should be attached to them, and not to worldly people who think no end of themselves and think they are great. They may be. But to you as Sahaja Yogis, it's the love of people which should be respected, should be understood and to be felt. But if you have no witness state, then you'll see how much money this man has got, how many cars he has got, what clothes he's wearing. All these considerations will be there. But in a witness state, you will understand that you'll get vibrations from this person. You will understand that person is spiritual. And that's how you will stick to such a person. You will not go for artificial things, but genuine personalities that are there. May God bless you all. Thank you. [Before Shri Mataji left the hall, She said:] Hello. I would say that after this Puja, I expected all of you to keep quiet. But everybody was talking. I don't know why, what had happened to you? You must enjoy the silence within yourself. I hope you'll understand that. Thank you.

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Evening Program, Eve of Shri Ganesha Puja

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Shri Ganesha Puja: Ekakarita

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Shri Ganesha Puja, “Ekakarita,” Cabella Ligure (Italy), 5 September 1998 Today we are going to worship Shri Ganesh. I think I have told you a lot about Him and His nature, but still so many of us have not yet realized what are His powers, and what He wants. The first and foremost thing is that to respect Shri Ganesha is to understand the importance of chastity. Chastity is not only for the women; it is more for the men to observe. If you have self-respect, in the real sense of the word, you will take to chastity without any difficulties. But if you have no self-respect, then you run after something which is very low, of a very degrading quality. So it’s very important that chastity must be respected, must be understood, and must be imbibed. This habit of not observing the proper protocol of the chastity develops from childhood. And we have to be very careful, when we are in a Ganesha state, we should not take to such horrible things. I don’t know from where people get the ideas. As you see today, in the whole world there’s a crisis of chastity. In the West, especially, we have heard of so many cases of child abuse. In a temple of God one should not even take the name of this dirty disease which has grabbed the people. But in India we have never heard of it, we don’t know. Of course, some of the men are very, very ruined people and they can’t help it unless and until they are put into jail. But for a Sahaja Yogi, it is very important to look after our chastity. As I told you yesterday, it is not necessary to find a girl for yourself or a boy for yourself. It’s also against the rules of chastity. I’m not saying that you should allow only your parents to decide, but let the Sahaja Yoga decide, because you are Sahajis. You are born after the image of Ganesha, who ultimately becomes Christ. So what should be your attitude towards chastity is very important. The most important thing [is] that if we get ruined on our chastity level, then Sahaja Yoga is very, very difficult, and it doesn’t give you that blessing as you should have. You saw yesterday people from Romania and also from Ukraine were singing so beautifully. One of the reasons is that basically they are very, very humble people. They are humbled down, so much so that they have given up nonsensical ideas about sex life and all that. So the humility will teach you that you are not having your self-respect. In the Islam they have stressed a very big importance on chastity. Very much. And this was gone to such an extent that Mohammed Sahib said that you can have five wives or four wives, but you don’t have women who are prostitutes. Once this chastity starts leaving us, we don’t mind anything under the sun. We have seen the results of that working out in many people who are very highly placed. And these highly placed people think that they are something great and they can overcome the binding of Jesus Christ and they can do what they like, go on misbehaving with women who are under them. They may do it secretly, they may do it any way, but Ganesha watches that. And He punishes them for what they are doing. It’s a terrible thing to go into these kinds of ventures which are not the field of Sahaja Yogis. Sahaja Yogis have to first of all steady their eyes, because it is concerned with the power of Jesus Christ. But in all the Christian nations, I have seen people have wandering eyes. Very surprising: when Christ is their leader, they worship Christ, go to church, sing the praise of Christ, and they have wandering eyes all over. These wandering eyes cannot be representative of the chastity of Christ. Now the second point is that the power of Ganesha can only be manifested if you are wise, because He is the giver of wisdom. Now people don’t understand what wisdom is – this is the big problem. Intelligence, so-called, is not wisdom. It can make you a very cunning, very aggressive, and sometimes very subtle person who can go on deceiving people, telling lies, doing all kinds of things, and believing in themselves that they are very, very successful. Success is never the criteria of a Sahaja Yogi. Success in Sahaja Yoga means very subtle surrendering of oneself to Sahaja Yoga. That is seldom to be found unless and until you meditate every day. It’s very important that you must meditate. Those who do not meditate will be lost to Sahaja Yoga, because wisdom can only grow through your inner inspiration. You can have this inner inspiration only if the power of Shri Ganesha manifests. He is the giver of your wisdom. In the wisdom, what you do is to find solutions, solutions which are peaceful, which are satisfying, which are soothing. He is the one who takes you to task also. Like yesterday I was told there was a whirlwind, and many people had to suffer a little bit because of the wind that came and blew off your tents. There’s no need to have tents in this climate; what is the need? I don’t understand. But they cannot live without a tent, you see. I can sleep outside very nicely, on the street also. So there’s no need to sort of fuss about all these things and bring the whole household here. There’s no need. We should not be afraid of discomfort. If you want to have a very comfortable life and you can’t suffer any discomfort, you are no good for Sahaja Yoga. In olden days, people used to go to Himalayas, stand on one leg, pray to God, and they didn’t give realization, they couldn’t get realization – while you all have got realization. So one should not try to make oneself a very sort of a lordly person. There is no need to care for comfort. I can live in comfort and I can live in any way, at this age also. So what you have to do is to – not to practise, I say, asceticism but to become an ascetic. Practising means trouble. But if you just become an ascetic from within, then you don’t bother about these little, little things here and there. But our style is still molded by the outside world. We haven’t got our own world, then we are going as the fashion is. And once you start going with the fashion, the wisdom disappears. I never tell anybody that you don’t have this fashion or that fashion or anything. It’s your wisdom which will teach you. Wisdom will teach you how to regulate yourself, because you have come here to ascend, to achieve a great, special place in the realm of spirituality. I must stress again on the power of wisdom. Before doing anything, you should just appeal to your wisdom and find out if it is wise to be like that. With this practice, you will reduce your temper, absolutely. You’ll reduce your lust, you’ll reduce your guilt very much, because once you start understanding that there’s no wisdom in feeling guilty, your guilt will disappear. Also the worst thing is that we have a great desire to have this, have that, and to indulge into all kinds of greed. This greed becomes zero as soon as you understand wisely that there’s no need. Otherwise, all the time you’ll be thinking about yourself, about your health, about your children, about your house – whatever is supposed to be yours. But the death proves that nothing belongs to you. You have come alone, and you have to go alone. This is the wisdom which is to be imbibed. You cannot practise it, you cannot force it, but it’s to be imbibed through your spirituality. Then the greatest thing that happens is the joy, joy of the dancing of Shri Ganesh. Like a child you see Him dancing, how joyous He feels, and you also feel. In the same way, a little child [is] being born within you, and you start behaving like a small child. Normally it has no sense of lust, greed, nothing. It knows how to share. So this is the position, we say, that you become a gana—the army of Shri Ganesh, they are ganas, and they are very powerful. And they do all the work of the world, they live in this world, but all their source of energy is from the Divine. So Shri Ganesha is an Omkara. He is the first Deity created by the Goddess, because He is auspiciousness. So, first auspiciousness is created for our good. We are auspicious because of Shri Ganesha. Some people, if they are in the house they create problems. They are always creating problems out of nothing. They are not auspicious people. Those who are peacemakers, those who are loving are the ones who are blessed by Shri Ganesh. What is the wisdom in fighting? You should find out: what is the wisdom in fighting? Why are you fighting, for what things? For small, small things, things that you can yourself correct? Why should you fight? If you have a fighting nature, that means Ganesha is against you, [that] your Ganesha is sleeping; that power is not with you. There is no wisdom in it. In this world, all those great people who have been respected since centuries have been very, very wise people. Not hot-tempered, not people who were quarrelling, not people who were having lust as the aim of their life; such people will be never remembered by the progeny. But that’s not so important, as you as Sahaja Yogis are very important. You are here on this earth to emancipate the whole of humanity. So, what should be the aim of your life is to go deep into your spirituality. This aim of getting into spirituality, I think you all know, you see, but you do not work out. I have told you last time that your attention has to be inside, not outside, and you should not react. All these procedures help you to be wise, to be sensible. But the sensible person who is just sensible as far as his own comforts are concerned, money is concerned, or his own health is concerned – everything encompassing him – is not a wise person. He is not wise. If you see a little child, who is properly brought up of course, he will always bother about other people. He’ll find out what others need, what can make them happy. He’ll list all the simple methods. He will try to please others, but not to gain any favour or to show off that he is very generous, but in the real sense of the word, that gives him joy. That is the collectivity. Today I am going to tell you something more about this collective nature that comes to you through Shri Ganesha’s efforts, or we can say His powers. Somebody told Me that Einstein has already made a story like that, is a discovery that if you all become cool, that is under the Shri Ganesha’s blessings, then we all become one. That’s his theory, but we also had Phil Ward here who established that when you cool down the helium gas, all the molecules, or you can call them atoms, they start moving in a collective way. Otherwise they are hitting each other, they are beating each other, and they are running helter and skelter. In the same way, when we have Shri Ganesha’s blessings within us in the real sense of the word, with our wisdom, then what happens [is that] we become very much evolved Sahaja Yogis. “Evolved Sahaja Yogis” means they have become one. “One” means what? “One” means they all live for each other, they enjoy each other, they see [to] the comfort of each other. For example, the people who are very rich, people who are very poor, people who are sick, people who are healthy, all of them combine together as one. In Sanskrit it is called ekakarita: they become one. And this oneness shows in your celebrations. When you all come here you try to help each other all the time, I’ve seen – nobody minds helping each other. I have seen people enjoying each other. They do not want to hurt anyone; on the contrary, they want to be helpful and sensible with each other. Most of your leaders I have chosen who are very wise, who avoid problems, who do not get into panics. Most of them, I should say. And when, you see, even you people try to destroy Sahaja Yoga, they know you are doing it. So to find out this ekakarita, you have to go deep down into yourself, by which you will feel that you are all one. Whether you are here or you are in Japan or in America – anywhere – you all think the same way, you all help the same cause, and you try to be the same style. I have seen people when they come for the pujas, so many of them, how they enjoy each other’s company, how they try to help each other. Somebody who is, say, in Russia or say, in Bulgaria, anywhere, he will write to Me about the problem he has, something. So somebody from America – without [Me] telling him, without [Me] informing him, without any information – immediately writes to Me: “Mother, such and such a person is there in Russia. Will You be able to send that person to America?” Most of the time it happens like this. But I don’t tell them. I never ask them. Even if I ask, suddenly there will be a response from so many people, from so many countries: “Mother, this is the problem? All right, we’ll go and do it.” For that, I must say Austrians are very sensitive people in this respect, in this ekakarita. They went all the way to Jerusalem, you know, to help the people, to get them realized. I wanted to go to Jerusalem, but this bombing business may not allow Me to go. But the Jerusalem people, I found them to be much more collective, because they came to Egypt. I said, “Why have you come here?” “To make friends with the Muslims of Egypt.” Just imagine! I was surprised. How could they come here? “No, just to make friends. They are Muslims, so we want to make friends with them.” So making friendship without any ulterior motive, without any gain, is one of the signs of your ekakarita. Not only that you are satisfied with other Sahaja Yogis, but you want to bring other Sahaja Yogis in. So many have done that. This is something so nourishing. Now, as you are being enlightened, you get another person who is enlightened. It’s very great joy-giving: If you give realization to one person, you feel very happy. I mean, so many write to Me: “Mother, now we have got thirty persons, twenty persons,” and they are very happy about it, that we have got so many Sahaja Yogis. But doing that, one should not develop the ego – then again you go against Ganesha, because Christ, you know, He doesn’t like it. Egoistical people He doesn’t like, and He is Shri Ganesh. So He doesn’t like such people who out of their ego want to create an organization of their own, and try to dominate others. This kind of people They don’t like. Both of Them are the same, there is complete ekakarita between Them. In the same way, we too develop that special quality of ekakarita. We forget about so-called religions that we have. See now, how they are fighting. All the religions which are outside are fighting among themselves. They are dishonest, they are doing all kinds of wrong things – you know it very well. Every day it’s in the newspaper that you hear about what wrong they are doing. They are a little bit successful, but not for a long time, because they’ll be exposed. This is the time of exposure, that they will lose that great faith on which they have been working out. All these will have to just disappear, these false ideas about superiority of any religion. How can a religion be superior to another one which is created by the effort of Shri Ganesha’s auspiciousness? It’s not auspicious at all that you fight another religion or you fight another creed, or you say that this is a lesser race, or we are a higher race. All these false ideas, they drop out. This doesn’t remain anymore, because all these ideas have created problems. Say, in America, they first hated the Blacks, so now the Blacks are hating the whites. It’s a big turmoil going on, you see. Then we have, also in India we had people who were supposed to be untouchables. They were tortured, they were troubled, and they did a lot of wrong things which they should have never done, which is not written in the shastras. Because of that, now they are acting against the so-called “touchables” and putting them right in their own places. So this brings in conflict. Shri Ganesha is the one, when He gives you wisdom, you understand that nobody is superior to another person. You are all made by God, and whatever is made by God is auspicious and beautiful. Once you start understanding that, this ekakarita spreads outside also. It spreads to other people. It’s not just because of a certain social understanding and a social upliftment [that] you try to be good to others – no. It is from inside; inside you do it. This ekakarita first must work in the family. It’s very important. The family which is disturbed all the time cannot create children who are in the state of ekakarita. That’s why I always tell them that, don’t fight. If in the family they are fighting, they cannot be Sahaja Yogis. If there is such a fight it’s better to get out of such a family. So we have sanctioned also a divorce. Any man who is flirting with other women or doing wrong things, we have asked him to get out of Sahaja Yoga. The reason is, one bad apple can spoil many apples. So such a man or such a woman should be kept out of Sahaja Yoga completely so that there is a better family relationship, which is very important in Sahaja Yoga. Your family relationships should be absolutely perfect. But I can’t understand: if you can’t enjoy the company of your wife, then what are you going to enjoy in this world? If you cannot enjoy the bliss of your family life, you cannot enjoy anything else. This very close relationship of husband and wife is thrown apart because of Ganesha problem only. If the Ganesha was all right, there would have been a perfect union, perfect understanding between husband and wife. But if that fails, that means there’s definitely something wrong with the Shri Ganesha. Try to correct your own Shri Ganesh than to see to others. You have to meditate, and meditate on Shri Ganesh, to sit on the ground and meditate. Now when we run away from the Mother Earth and we don’t touch Her, we don’t respect Her, in a way we don’t respect Shri Ganesha. He was made out of the Mother Earth, and He controls the Mother Earth. He controls all the five elements. Not only that, but He controls you. I liked the film yesterday where they showed a Ganesha walking about with another person, who was telling, “Don’t do this, and don’t do this.” It’s a very, very beautiful film because it suggests that Ganesha is always there to tell you not to do it. But if you do it, then you develop all kinds of horrible diseases, all kinds of horrible faces, all kinds of family problems. Also you can develop national problems. So this is so important to understand, that such a feeling of, I should say, very inauspicious character is to be avoided. I can’t understand: how can people feel so bad about small, small children, some two-year-old child, some five-year-old child? If you see a child, even a photograph of a child, you feel like loving that, you feel like kissing that child. If the children cannot be respected, how can you understand the value of Shri Ganesha? See how sweet they are, how sweetly they behave. And they understand! They understand you, they understand Me. I know, even the small children, those who are very small, newly-born children understand Me. So there’s innately within them, is built in, a kind of a feeling of understanding the love. To understand the love also is very difficult for egoistical people, because they love themselves, they don’t love anybody else. Or if they love somebody it is out of lust, maybe greed, maybe some sort of an association. But love for love’s sake is only possible if your Shri Ganesha is properly cleaned out and kept. We have come so far, and we have so many Sahaja Yogis all over the world. Of course I have worked very hard, I must say, but you also have supported Me very much. I am thankful to you. It’s not possible in this Western world especially, where there’s no consideration of Ganesha’s Principle, that you people should come out so well and accept Sahaja Yoga as a life for yourself. In Sahaja Yog the most important thing is to worship Shri Ganesha within you, and the quality of Shri Ganesha within you. It’s very soothing, it’s very peace-giving, it’s a very secure . . . security-creating power. If your Ganesha is all right, nobody can touch you, nobody can destroy you, nobody can upset you, because He is the one who is the giver of peace. The world peace is disturbed because we have not worshipped Shri Ganesha. I’ve seen people in very big positions, in charge of military, in charge of that, in charge – not in charge of themselves. Their Ganesha is absolutely ruined and finished. All such people are such leaders of nations, and people try to follow them in their own way. Though they may do something secretly, it doesn’t matter; people know about it. Because in auspiciousness if you are losing, then the whole world comes to know, somehow. It will all be exposed, because Satya Yuga has come. In this new Yuga, there’s light of the truth within us, and this truth can expose all that is nonsensical [that] we have been doing. Now truth is the quality of Shri Ganesh Himself. He is the one who is giving us truth. In our brain, it comes to us through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ has worked so much, He’s done so much. But look at the condition of the people who are supposed to be following Him. Look at the way they are behaving. Let us at least show that if you follow Ganesha and Jesus Christ, you are in the image of that personality which is something so very spiritual. Spiritual life is the giver of joy. You cannot get joy out of anything else but spirituality. You can get some satisfaction, you can get some ego, you might feel that you are something great, but the only way you can get the inner peace and joy is Shri Ganesha’s manifestation in all the chakras. He manifests in all the chakras, which when you are in a proper state on those chakras, you get the joy. And that joy comes to you through Shri Ganesh. These days people are writing horrible books, horrible things. Also there are some who are trying to write very sweet things about Shri Ganesha’s principle of understanding, principle of His auspiciousness. Very sweetly. I’ve seen some people have written some very, very sweet stories about Him. It’s not only the love stories; up to a point, all right, they created so many love stories, love stories, love stories. Now something beyond that, one has to know. And beyond that is this Ganesha Principle, which is of complete peace, of complete joy, and of understanding of love, the value of pure love—of giving, and also of taking it. Anyone who gives you the pure love should be understood in the right way. Yesterday I knew that Shri Ganesha has gone off a little bit. I don’t know why He was like that, but one has to understand that there must be some people within us who do not follow the Principle of Shri Ganesh, and that’s why these troubles are there. So with a sincere heart and a sincere mind, if you ask the blessings of Shri Ganesh, He is always ready to give you. But if you don’t listen to Him and if you destroy your chastity in any way, He will punish you. He’ll not spare you. He doesn’t have the idea of sparing. At the level of Christ only, He thought of forgiving, of forgiving you. But forgiving doesn’t mean that any, any sin can be forgiven – no. It’s like a kind of a controlling power. Christ has said that you’ll be forgiven, but Shri Ganesha at a point, when He sees people are forgiven, He tries to punish you. That’s the limiting point where He thinks it’s not proper to forgive such and such person. So for Christ, to forgive is all right, but for Ganesha, He has to expose and punish the person. So in a way, you have to know that Christ is very great, because He gives us the forgiving power job, and Shri Ganesha is very powerful because He limits our forgiving power. You may forgive anyone, you may say that, “I would like to forgive,” but we don’t know if Shri Ganesh will allow to that extent. And Christ accepts that. Because They are the same, They are like the two sides of one coin. So we cannot depend too much on the forgiveness power of Christ, because there is Ganesha always sitting there and He has in His hand, you have seen, a very powerful weapon. He is the one who is just peace, who is coolness, who gives you coolness after realization. You get the cool breeze because of Shri Ganesh. Because it is Brahmachaitanya, no doubt, but the one who emits it is Shri Ganesha. He cools you down. He brings you down to a very cool, satisfied, and a person with complete calmness. With that calmness, you become all one. This ekakarita is established, oneness is established. Whatever country you may be believing in, whatever country you may be proud of, you will see the bad things in that country and you will try to improve that. You will not be identified with the bad. This is the greatest thing of the Satya Yuga, that it exposes, and you do not support something that is wrong, which is being done as an aggression – you don’t accept. And once you don’t accept that, then you start becoming one with the people who are one with you. And they all believe in the same thing, their ideas are the same, their thinking is the same, their joy is the same, and they enjoy each other very much. They become one, and this oneness has to be established fully in Sahaja Yoga. Some people who are only interested in making money, who are interested in getting a good crowd or some sort of a thing of a very low level, cannot. Those who are in Sahaja Yoga to find wives for themselves or husbands for themselves, are not. This spirituality grows with humility. And the humility of Ganesha is told by His venture once, when His Mother asked Him that, “The one who will go round the Earth three times, I’ll give Him a present.” So Ganesha thought, “Who is greater than My Mother? Not this Earth.” He had a small little rat on which He used to travel. This shows that He was so humble: on a rat He could travel, no pressure on the rat. While His brother Kartikeya had a peacock which could fly, so He knew He cannot go round the world and win over His brother. So He just went round His Mother three times, and He got the present. This shows one thing, that speed is not the way of success. You have to slow down your speed. Apart from that, you have to understand what is the most important thing, as He understood: the most important thing is to love your Mother, to respect your Mother, and know that She is the highest, She is the greatest. And that is how He has been expressed within ourselves. Once that happens, your spirituality grows. I hope you will work it out this way now, Shri Ganesha, and start an ekakarita. I don’t like people writing letters against their leaders, against this man, against that man. That’s not good. There’s no need. If you just can be forgiving, and keeping one with each other. Try to get more people, and more people. You cannot separate anyone as saying that they are condemned, they are no good. Try to get them. With your forgiveness, with your sense of chastity, things will improve. So this exclusiveness also should be given up, which perhaps comes from a kind of a sense of insecurity, I think. It is Shri Ganesha! If they are the wrong type of people, He drives them out. So don’t get frightened of them, and don’t get upset with them. Try to be one, one, and try to be more attracting people to yourself, keeping them to you, trying to manage them, and look after them. I hope you will all meditate now after this to develop your Ganesha qualities, and develop that power of chastity, and also of peace and security. May God bless you.

Shri Ganesha Puja, “Ekakarita,” Cabella Ligure (Italy), 5 September 1998 Today we are going to worship Shri Ganesh. I think I have told you a lot about Him and His nature, but still so many of us have not yet realized what are His powers, and what He wants. The first and foremost thing is that to respect Shri Ganesha is to understand the importance of chastity. Chastity is not only for the women; it is more for the men to observe. If you have self-respect, in the real sense of the word, you will take to chastity without any difficulties. But if you have no self-respect, then you run after something which is very low, of a very degrading quality. So it’s very important that chastity must be respected, must be understood, and must be imbibed. This habit of not observing the proper protocol of the chastity develops from childhood. And we have to be very careful, when we are in a Ganesha state, we should not take to such horrible things. I don’t know from where people get the ideas. As you see today, in the whole world there’s a crisis of chastity. In the West, especially, we have heard of so many cases of child abuse. In a temple of God one should not even take the name of this dirty disease which has grabbed the people. But in India we have never heard of it, we don’t know. Of course, some of the men are very, very ruined people and they can’t help it unless and until they are put into jail. But for a Sahaja Yogi, it is very important to look after our chastity. As I told you yesterday, it is not necessary to find a girl for yourself or a boy for yourself. It’s also against the rules of chastity. I’m not saying that you should allow only your parents to decide, but let the Sahaja Yoga decide, because you are Sahajis. You are born after the image of Ganesha, who ultimately becomes Christ. So what should be your attitude towards chastity is very important. The most important thing [is] that if we get ruined on our chastity level, then Sahaja Yoga is very, very difficult, and it doesn’t give you that blessing as you should have. You saw yesterday people from Romania and also from Ukraine were singing so beautifully. One of the reasons is that basically they are very, very humble people. They are humbled down, so much so that they have given up nonsensical ideas about sex life and all that. So the humility will teach you that you are not having your self-respect. In the Islam they have stressed a very big importance on chastity. Very much. And this was gone to such an extent that Mohammed Sahib said that you can have five wives or four wives, but you don’t have women who are prostitutes. Once this chastity starts leaving us, we don’t mind anything under the sun. We have seen the results of that working out in many people who are very highly placed. And these highly placed people think that they are something great and they can overcome the binding of Jesus Christ and they can do what they like, go on misbehaving with women who are under them. They may do it secretly, they may do it any way, but Ganesha watches that. And He punishes them for what they are doing. It’s a terrible thing to go into these kinds of ventures which are not the field of Sahaja Yogis. Sahaja Yogis have to first of all steady their eyes, because it is concerned with the power of Jesus Christ. But in all the Christian nations, I have seen people have wandering eyes. Very surprising: when Christ is their leader, they worship Christ, go to church, sing the praise of Christ, and they have wandering eyes all over. These wandering eyes cannot be representative of the chastity of Christ. Now the second point is that the power of Ganesha can only be manifested if you are wise, because He is the giver of wisdom. Now people don’t understand what wisdom is – this is the big problem. Intelligence, so-called, is not wisdom. It can make you a very cunning, very aggressive, and sometimes very subtle person who can go on deceiving people, telling lies, doing all kinds of things, and believing in themselves that they are very, very successful. Success is never the criteria of a Sahaja Yogi. Success in Sahaja Yoga means very subtle surrendering of oneself to Sahaja Yoga. That is seldom to be found unless and until you meditate every day. It’s very important that you must meditate. Those who do not meditate will be lost to Sahaja Yoga, because wisdom can only grow through your inner inspiration. You can have this inner inspiration only if the power of Shri Ganesha manifests. He is the giver of your wisdom. In the wisdom, what you do is to find solutions, solutions which are peaceful, which are satisfying, which are soothing. He is the one who takes you to task also. Like yesterday I was told there was a whirlwind, and many people had to suffer a little bit because of the wind that came and blew off your tents. There’s no need to have tents in this climate; what is the need? I don’t understand. But they cannot live without a tent, you see. I can sleep outside very nicely, on the street also. So there’s no need to sort of fuss about all these things and bring the whole household here. There’s no need. We should not be afraid of discomfort. If you want to have a very comfortable life and you can’t suffer any discomfort, you are no good for Sahaja Yoga. In olden days, people used to go to Himalayas, stand on one leg, pray to God, and they didn’t give realization, they couldn’t get realization – while you all have got realization. So one should not try to make oneself a very sort of a lordly person. There is no need to care for comfort. I can live in comfort and I can live in any way, at this age also. So what you have to do is to – not to practise, I say, asceticism but to become an ascetic. Practising means trouble. But if you just become an ascetic from within, then you don’t bother about these little, little things here and there. But our style is still molded by the outside world. We haven’t got our own world, then we are going as the fashion is. And once you start going with the fashion, the wisdom disappears. I never tell anybody that you don’t have this fashion or that fashion or anything. It’s your wisdom which will teach you. Wisdom will teach you how to regulate yourself, because you have come here to ascend, to achieve a great, special place in the realm of spirituality. I must stress again on the power of wisdom. Before doing anything, you should just appeal to your wisdom and find out if it is wise to be like that. With this practice, you will reduce your temper, absolutely. You’ll reduce your lust, you’ll reduce your guilt very much, because once you start understanding that there’s no wisdom in feeling guilty, your guilt will disappear. Also the worst thing is that we have a great desire to have this, have that, and to indulge into all kinds of greed. This greed becomes zero as soon as you understand wisely that there’s no need. Otherwise, all the time you’ll be thinking about yourself, about your health, about your children, about your house – whatever is supposed to be yours. But the death proves that nothing belongs to you. You have come alone, and you have to go alone. This is the wisdom which is to be imbibed. You cannot practise it, you cannot force it, but it’s to be imbibed through your spirituality. Then the greatest thing that happens is the joy, joy of the dancing of Shri Ganesh. Like a child you see Him dancing, how joyous He feels, and you also feel. In the same way, a little child [is] being born within you, and you start behaving like a small child. Normally it has no sense of lust, greed, nothing. It knows how to share. So this is the position, we say, that you become a gana—the army of Shri Ganesh, they are ganas, and they are very powerful. And they do all the work of the world, they live in this world, but all their source of energy is from the Divine. So Shri Ganesha is an Omkara. He is the first Deity created by the Goddess, because He is auspiciousness. So, first auspiciousness is created for our good. We are auspicious because of Shri Ganesha. Some people, if they are in the house they create problems. They are always creating problems out of nothing. They are not auspicious people. Those who are peacemakers, those who are loving are the ones who are blessed by Shri Ganesh. What is the wisdom in fighting? You should find out: what is the wisdom in fighting? Why are you fighting, for what things? For small, small things, things that you can yourself correct? Why should you fight? If you have a fighting nature, that means Ganesha is against you, [that] your Ganesha is sleeping; that power is not with you. There is no wisdom in it. In this world, all those great people who have been respected since centuries have been very, very wise people. Not hot-tempered, not people who were quarrelling, not people who were having lust as the aim of their life; such people will be never remembered by the progeny. But that’s not so important, as you as Sahaja Yogis are very important. You are here on this earth to emancipate the whole of humanity. So, what should be the aim of your life is to go deep into your spirituality. This aim of getting into spirituality, I think you all know, you see, but you do not work out. I have told you last time that your attention has to be inside, not outside, and you should not react. All these procedures help you to be wise, to be sensible. But the sensible person who is just sensible as far as his own comforts are concerned, money is concerned, or his own health is concerned – everything encompassing him – is not a wise person. He is not wise. If you see a little child, who is properly brought up of course, he will always bother about other people. He’ll find out what others need, what can make them happy. He’ll list all the simple methods. He will try to please others, but not to gain any favour or to show off that he is very generous, but in the real sense of the word, that gives him joy. That is the collectivity. Today I am going to tell you something more about this collective nature that comes to you through Shri Ganesha’s efforts, or we can say His powers. Somebody told Me that Einstein has already made a story like that, is a discovery that if you all become cool, that is under the Shri Ganesha’s blessings, then we all become one. That’s his theory, but we also had Phil Ward here who established that when you cool down the helium gas, all the molecules, or you can call them atoms, they start moving in a collective way. Otherwise they are hitting each other, they are beating each other, and they are running helter and skelter. In the same way, when we have Shri Ganesha’s blessings within us in the real sense of the word, with our wisdom, then what happens [is that] we become very much evolved Sahaja Yogis. “Evolved Sahaja Yogis” means they have become one. “One” means what? “One” means they all live for each other, they enjoy each other, they see [to] the comfort of each other. For example, the people who are very rich, people who are very poor, people who are sick, people who are healthy, all of them combine together as one. In Sanskrit it is called ekakarita: they become one. And this oneness shows in your celebrations. When you all come here you try to help each other all the time, I’ve seen – nobody minds helping each other. I have seen people enjoying each other. They do not want to hurt anyone; on the contrary, they want to be helpful and sensible with each other. Most of your leaders I have chosen who are very wise, who avoid problems, who do not get into panics. Most of them, I should say. And when, you see, even you people try to destroy Sahaja Yoga, they know you are doing it. So to find out this ekakarita, you have to go deep down into yourself, by which you will feel that you are all one. Whether you are here or you are in Japan or in America – anywhere – you all think the same way, you all help the same cause, and you try to be the same style. I have seen people when they come for the pujas, so many of them, how they enjoy each other’s company, how they try to help each other. Somebody who is, say, in Russia or say, in Bulgaria, anywhere, he will write to Me about the problem he has, something. So somebody from America – without [Me] telling him, without [Me] informing him, without any information – immediately writes to Me: “Mother, such and such a person is there in Russia. Will You be able to send that person to America?” Most of the time it happens like this. But I don’t tell them. I never ask them. Even if I ask, suddenly there will be a response from so many people, from so many countries: “Mother, this is the problem? All right, we’ll go and do it.” For that, I must say Austrians are very sensitive people in this respect, in this ekakarita. They went all the way to Jerusalem, you know, to help the people, to get them realized. I wanted to go to Jerusalem, but this bombing business may not allow Me to go. But the Jerusalem people, I found them to be much more collective, because they came to Egypt. I said, “Why have you come here?” “To make friends with the Muslims of Egypt.” Just imagine! I was surprised. How could they come here? “No, just to make friends. They are Muslims, so we want to make friends with them.” So making friendship without any ulterior motive, without any gain, is one of the signs of your ekakarita. Not only that you are satisfied with other Sahaja Yogis, but you want to bring other Sahaja Yogis in. So many have done that. This is something so nourishing. Now, as you are being enlightened, you get another person who is enlightened. It’s very great joy-giving: If you give realization to one person, you feel very happy. I mean, so many write to Me: “Mother, now we have got thirty persons, twenty persons,” and they are very happy about it, that we have got so many Sahaja Yogis. But doing that, one should not develop the ego – then again you go against Ganesha, because Christ, you know, He doesn’t like it. Egoistical people He doesn’t like, and He is Shri Ganesh. So He doesn’t like such people who out of their ego want to create an organization of their own, and try to dominate others. This kind of people They don’t like. Both of Them are the same, there is complete ekakarita between Them. In the same way, we too develop that special quality of ekakarita. We forget about so-called religions that we have. See now, how they are fighting. All the religions which are outside are fighting among themselves. They are dishonest, they are doing all kinds of wrong things – you know it very well. Every day it’s in the newspaper that you hear about what wrong they are doing. They are a little bit successful, but not for a long time, because they’ll be exposed. This is the time of exposure, that they will lose that great faith on which they have been working out. All these will have to just disappear, these false ideas about superiority of any religion. How can a religion be superior to another one which is created by the effort of Shri Ganesha’s auspiciousness? It’s not auspicious at all that you fight another religion or you fight another creed, or you say that this is a lesser race, or we are a higher race. All these false ideas, they drop out. This doesn’t remain anymore, because all these ideas have created problems. Say, in America, they first hated the Blacks, so now the Blacks are hating the whites. It’s a big turmoil going on, you see. Then we have, also in India we had people who were supposed to be untouchables. They were tortured, they were troubled, and they did a lot of wrong things which they should have never done, which is not written in the shastras. Because of that, now they are acting against the so-called “touchables” and putting them right in their own places. So this brings in conflict. Shri Ganesha is the one, when He gives you wisdom, you understand that nobody is superior to another person. You are all made by God, and whatever is made by God is auspicious and beautiful. Once you start understanding that, this ekakarita spreads outside also. It spreads to other people. It’s not just because of a certain social understanding and a social upliftment [that] you try to be good to others – no. It is from inside; inside you do it. This ekakarita first must work in the family. It’s very important. The family which is disturbed all the time cannot create children who are in the state of ekakarita. That’s why I always tell them that, don’t fight. If in the family they are fighting, they cannot be Sahaja Yogis. If there is such a fight it’s better to get out of such a family. So we have sanctioned also a divorce. Any man who is flirting with other women or doing wrong things, we have asked him to get out of Sahaja Yoga. The reason is, one bad apple can spoil many apples. So such a man or such a woman should be kept out of Sahaja Yoga completely so that there is a better family relationship, which is very important in Sahaja Yoga. Your family relationships should be absolutely perfect. But I can’t understand: if you can’t enjoy the company of your wife, then what are you going to enjoy in this world? If you cannot enjoy the bliss of your family life, you cannot enjoy anything else. This very close relationship of husband and wife is thrown apart because of Ganesha problem only. If the Ganesha was all right, there would have been a perfect union, perfect understanding between husband and wife. But if that fails, that means there’s definitely something wrong with the Shri Ganesha. Try to correct your own Shri Ganesh than to see to others. You have to meditate, and meditate on Shri Ganesh, to sit on the ground and meditate. Now when we run away from the Mother Earth and we don’t touch Her, we don’t respect Her, in a way we don’t respect Shri Ganesha. He was made out of the Mother Earth, and He controls the Mother Earth. He controls all the five elements. Not only that, but He controls you. I liked the film yesterday where they showed a Ganesha walking about with another person, who was telling, “Don’t do this, and don’t do this.” It’s a very, very beautiful film because it suggests that Ganesha is always there to tell you not to do it. But if you do it, then you develop all kinds of horrible diseases, all kinds of horrible faces, all kinds of family problems. Also you can develop national problems. So this is so important to understand, that such a feeling of, I should say, very inauspicious character is to be avoided. I can’t understand: how can people feel so bad about small, small children, some two-year-old child, some five-year-old child? If you see a child, even a photograph of a child, you feel like loving that, you feel like kissing that child. If the children cannot be respected, how can you understand the value of Shri Ganesha? See how sweet they are, how sweetly they behave. And they understand! They understand you, they understand Me. I know, even the small children, those who are very small, newly-born children understand Me. So there’s innately within them, is built in, a kind of a feeling of understanding the love. To understand the love also is very difficult for egoistical people, because they love themselves, they don’t love anybody else. Or if they love somebody it is out of lust, maybe greed, maybe some sort of an association. But love for love’s sake is only possible if your Shri Ganesha is properly cleaned out and kept. We have come so far, and we have so many Sahaja Yogis all over the world. Of course I have worked very hard, I must say, but you also have supported Me very much. I am thankful to you. It’s not possible in this Western world especially, where there’s no consideration of Ganesha’s Principle, that you people should come out so well and accept Sahaja Yoga as a life for yourself. In Sahaja Yog the most important thing is to worship Shri Ganesha within you, and the quality of Shri Ganesha within you. It’s very soothing, it’s very peace-giving, it’s a very secure . . . security-creating power. If your Ganesha is all right, nobody can touch you, nobody can destroy you, nobody can upset you, because He is the one who is the giver of peace. The world peace is disturbed because we have not worshipped Shri Ganesha. I’ve seen people in very big positions, in charge of military, in charge of that, in charge – not in charge of themselves. Their Ganesha is absolutely ruined and finished. All such people are such leaders of nations, and people try to follow them in their own way. Though they may do something secretly, it doesn’t matter; people know about it. Because in auspiciousness if you are losing, then the whole world comes to know, somehow. It will all be exposed, because Satya Yuga has come. In this new Yuga, there’s light of the truth within us, and this truth can expose all that is nonsensical [that] we have been doing. Now truth is the quality of Shri Ganesh Himself. He is the one who is giving us truth. In our brain, it comes to us through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ has worked so much, He’s done so much. But look at the condition of the people who are supposed to be following Him. Look at the way they are behaving. Let us at least show that if you follow Ganesha and Jesus Christ, you are in the image of that personality which is something so very spiritual. Spiritual life is the giver of joy. You cannot get joy out of anything else but spirituality. You can get some satisfaction, you can get some ego, you might feel that you are something great, but the only way you can get the inner peace and joy is Shri Ganesha’s manifestation in all the chakras. He manifests in all the chakras, which when you are in a proper state on those chakras, you get the joy. And that joy comes to you through Shri Ganesh. These days people are writing horrible books, horrible things. Also there are some who are trying to write very sweet things about Shri Ganesha’s principle of understanding, principle of His auspiciousness. Very sweetly. I’ve seen some people have written some very, very sweet stories about Him. It’s not only the love stories; up to a point, all right, they created so many love stories, love stories, love stories. Now something beyond that, one has to know. And beyond that is this Ganesha Principle, which is of complete peace, of complete joy, and of understanding of love, the value of pure love—of giving, and also of taking it. Anyone who gives you the pure love should be understood in the right way. Yesterday I knew that Shri Ganesha has gone off a little bit. I don’t know why He was like that, but one has to understand that there must be some people within us who do not follow the Principle of Shri Ganesh, and that’s why these troubles are there. So with a sincere heart and a sincere mind, if you ask the blessings of Shri Ganesh, He is always ready to give you. But if you don’t listen to Him and if you destroy your chastity in any way, He will punish you. He’ll not spare you. He doesn’t have the idea of sparing. At the level of Christ only, He thought of forgiving, of forgiving you. But forgiving doesn’t mean that any, any sin can be forgiven – no. It’s like a kind of a controlling power. Christ has said that you’ll be forgiven, but Shri Ganesha at a point, when He sees people are forgiven, He tries to punish you. That’s the limiting point where He thinks it’s not proper to forgive such and such person. So for Christ, to forgive is all right, but for Ganesha, He has to expose and punish the person. So in a way, you have to know that Christ is very great, because He gives us the forgiving power job, and Shri Ganesha is very powerful because He limits our forgiving power. You may forgive anyone, you may say that, “I would like to forgive,” but we don’t know if Shri Ganesh will allow to that extent. And Christ accepts that. Because They are the same, They are like the two sides of one coin. So we cannot depend too much on the forgiveness power of Christ, because there is Ganesha always sitting there and He has in His hand, you have seen, a very powerful weapon. He is the one who is just peace, who is coolness, who gives you coolness after realization. You get the cool breeze because of Shri Ganesh. Because it is Brahmachaitanya, no doubt, but the one who emits it is Shri Ganesha. He cools you down. He brings you down to a very cool, satisfied, and a person with complete calmness. With that calmness, you become all one. This ekakarita is established, oneness is established. Whatever country you may be believing in, whatever country you may be proud of, you will see the bad things in that country and you will try to improve that. You will not be identified with the bad. This is the greatest thing of the Satya Yuga, that it exposes, and you do not support something that is wrong, which is being done as an aggression – you don’t accept. And once you don’t accept that, then you start becoming one with the people who are one with you. And they all believe in the same thing, their ideas are the same, their thinking is the same, their joy is the same, and they enjoy each other very much. They become one, and this oneness has to be established fully in Sahaja Yoga. Some people who are only interested in making money, who are interested in getting a good crowd or some sort of a thing of a very low level, cannot. Those who are in Sahaja Yoga to find wives for themselves or husbands for themselves, are not. This spirituality grows with humility. And the humility of Ganesha is told by His venture once, when His Mother asked Him that, “The one who will go round the Earth three times, I’ll give Him a present.” So Ganesha thought, “Who is greater than My Mother? Not this Earth.” He had a small little rat on which He used to travel. This shows that He was so humble: on a rat He could travel, no pressure on the rat. While His brother Kartikeya had a peacock which could fly, so He knew He cannot go round the world and win over His brother. So He just went round His Mother three times, and He got the present. This shows one thing, that speed is not the way of success. You have to slow down your speed. Apart from that, you have to understand what is the most important thing, as He understood: the most important thing is to love your Mother, to respect your Mother, and know that She is the highest, She is the greatest. And that is how He has been expressed within ourselves. Once that happens, your spirituality grows. I hope you will work it out this way now, Shri Ganesha, and start an ekakarita. I don’t like people writing letters against their leaders, against this man, against that man. That’s not good. There’s no need. If you just can be forgiving, and keeping one with each other. Try to get more people, and more people. You cannot separate anyone as saying that they are condemned, they are no good. Try to get them. With your forgiveness, with your sense of chastity, things will improve. So this exclusiveness also should be given up, which perhaps comes from a kind of a sense of insecurity, I think. It is Shri Ganesha! If they are the wrong type of people, He drives them out. So don’t get frightened of them, and don’t get upset with them. Try to be one, one, and try to be more attracting people to yourself, keeping them to you, trying to manage them, and look after them. I hope you will all meditate now after this to develop your Ganesha qualities, and develop that power of chastity, and also of peace and security. May God bless you.

9/6/1998

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Marriages and Talk After Marriages: Mahalakshmi Principle

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Cabella Ligure

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Wedding

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[Shri Mataji speaks at the end of the marriage ceremony] Shri Mataji: You hear? Yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: It was such a joyous and a beautiful occasion that we all enjoyed it thoroughly and all the brides and bridegrooms look so very happy. It gives Me great pleasure and I bless you from My heart. Only I would say that after marriage try to make a loving successful marriage. It is very important. For example, we saw from one country there were six to seven girls who misbehaved and took a divorce. Because of this kind of a thing we have banned that country practically because we think there’s something wrong with these ladies that they have broken one after another so many marriages. So must be their empty ego or may be something like that. It has been our experience. Also there are some other countries also. From there are - we find some very bad instances of very good marriages we have had. So what I said that if you don’t want to marry don’t marry. But in Sahaja Yoga it is not for yourself or for your wife you are marrying but you are marrying for Sahaja Yoga. So when you fight, quarrel or do all nonsense you are only harming the name of Sahaja Yoga. So you have to enjoy each other’s love, each other’s feelings, and the joy of a married life. I have seen some people are so stupid that they don’t know what is the joy of a married life. If you do not want to enjoy it’s alright. It’s like the cake if you don’t eat, you don’t eat. But to be sensible and to be acting according to the Divine laws, you should stick on properly with great excitement and great enthusiasm. There are so many marriages in Sahaja Yoga who have been extremely successful. They have got children who are born realized, very beautiful children and they have all the families coming to Sahaja Yoga by seeing how the marriages have taken place. I have to give some notes to you that the husband should not think that because he has married he has a right to dominate the wife, always to sit on her head. Of course in the West they don’t do it. But in India they do it very much. They are very, very aggressive men. On the contrary in the West I find that women are much more, much more aggressive than the men are, which is something I can’t understand. And because of this sometimes the marriages fail. There is no need to aggress anyone. Need not trouble anyone. If it’s absolutely incorrigible, if it is not at all possible to carry on, we have in Sahaja Yoga sanctioned divorces. But it’s a shameful thing. I don’t like it to have divorces and then not to enjoy the life. So you should get into a beautiful romantic mood now, and enjoy your wife and enjoy your husbands. And don’t start quarreling from the first day (Shri Mataji laughs, laughter and applause). Now. If you indulge into divorces you bring actually bad name to your family, upbringing. Then you bring bad name to your country. And as a result other girls who want to get married from your country, because of My experience of such girls who have destroyed their married life, I don’t like to marry anyone from that country. It has become now a practice that we see about six-seven years now, how the marriages have been working out. So if you want to discard completely all the decency and the beauty of Sahaja Yoga marriage, then it would have been better you should have decided not to marry. Because there’s no obligation on us as such. It’s more the obligation on you that you should get a good wife or a good husband. Despite everything - supposing you don’t want to accept it or don’t want to do it, do not just think of the divorce, because I have seen people in the West are always thinking at the time of marriage how to get divorce. But is a very shameful thing. It’s a very wrong thing. It shows no sahaj life. If you are real sahaja yogis you should be able to carry on with your wife or with your husband in a very loving sahaj manner. Is the blessing of Ganesha on you. He’ll protect your married life, He’ll help you very much, He’ll take you away from wrong things. I know it’s such a blissful thing to be married in Sahaja Yoga. But there are some stupid women or stupid men who do not want to enjoy their married life. That case we will agree to have them divorced. But once they are divorced we’ll not allow them to marry in Sahaja Yoga. That is for definite. We don’t want to marry anyone who has divorced. If they have divorced with proper reason it’s alright, but just for the sake of divorcing if you want to have a kind of a special treatment you will not. So I have to tell you that as far as Sahaja Yoga is concerned, divorce is out of bounds but in case you want to fight, you want to trouble, you want to destroy other’s lives, then of course divorce is done. I would request you now to enjoy the company of your wife or your husband. It is for enjoyment that we have started marrying people from this country to that country. Yesterday I have told you that you don’t organize your marriages because we are not responsible. Let us organize your marriages. If you start like this, all kinds of funny problems will start as they have mostly in the Western society. Because, they come here, they want to select a girl, or they select the girl in their, from their own centers. That is in center they are not meditating but trying to find out a girl or a boy. This kind of a nonsense we want to stop. So if you want to marry in Sahaja Yoga you don’t have to find out your own bride or your bridegroom because we want to see how the vibrations match and how things work out. Despite that also marriages fail. But invariably I have seen when the marriages are fixed by themselves they fail. It’s just like any other marriage. So the best thing for you is to now make a compromise with yourself that you are not going to be stupid and you are not going to waste your married life. I’ve been crying, you see, with your smoke (Shri Mataji laughs). So I worked very hard for you. With all this we have done, with such scrutiny, with such understanding; and you should not make us miserable for nothing at all. So I again and again request you that you be in a very happy mood now. I’m very happy, I bless you from My heart. And I am sure your marriages will work out. But don’t be hasty. Take it easy. Everything is to be taken easy first of all, and see, gently work it out your marriage. May God bless you. Thank you all. (Applause) Yogi: Now, now on behalf of yogi married couples and sahaja yogis, we offer garland to Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: In a…(She laughs) We have a custom now that the bride and bridegroom receive their food in one plate, one plate. And they feed each other. So the first, the boy … (Speech in Marathi away from mike) Ah. First the girl, the bride has to give the morsel in the mouth of the husband. You shouldn’t be very naughty to give a big one, alright? (Laughter) Ah. Then the boy, the bridegroom, has to give the morsel in the mouth of his bride - with love. Now also there is custom in India, I don’t know if you can do that. It’s very simple though that you have to take the name of your wife or your husband in a couplet. It’s like this. And if you can do some people, you just compose it now, and you can raise your hands. Say I give you about ten minutes to compose a couplet in any language that you want to, in which the name of the bride and bridegroom is there. So the bride does that and the man does that. Then all your life, married life, you don’t call your husband by name. I mean, it’s something great (She laughs) that you are not to call your husband by name. But you have to say what - I don’t know in English - darling? (She laughs, laughter and applause) That is, that is I don’t know what that is in English, but…. but that’s how, but… according to us in Indian way we call him the master. And also in Maharashtra they call it the Turban-in-the-hook. You see, because the husband has a turban and he puts it on the hook. So they call it… If you ask him (her), “Where is your husband?” - so she, the lady will answer, “The turban-in-the-hook has gone out” (laughter, She laughs). So there are interesting, very, very interesting customs. And that actually brings husband and wife very much together. There are so many games they play after the marriage is done. But practically now I think you have got lots of things done already; but if you want to take the names I’ll give you ten minutes I said. Alright? Thank you. [The garland is offered to Shri Mataji]

[Shri Mataji speaks at the end of the marriage ceremony] Shri Mataji: You hear? Yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: It was such a joyous and a beautiful occasion that we all enjoyed it thoroughly and all the brides and bridegrooms look so very happy. It gives Me great pleasure and I bless you from My heart. Only I would say that after marriage try to make a loving successful marriage. It is very important. For example, we saw from one country there were six to seven girls who misbehaved and took a divorce. Because of this kind of a thing we have banned that country practically because we think there’s something wrong with these ladies that they have broken one after another so many marriages. So must be their empty ego or may be something like that. It has been our experience. Also there are some other countries also. From there are - we find some very bad instances of very good marriages we have had. So what I said that if you don’t want to marry don’t marry. But in Sahaja Yoga it is not for yourself or for your wife you are marrying but you are marrying for Sahaja Yoga. So when you fight, quarrel or do all nonsense you are only harming the name of Sahaja Yoga. So you have to enjoy each other’s love, each other’s feelings, and the joy of a married life. I have seen some people are so stupid that they don’t know what is the joy of a married life. If you do not want to enjoy it’s alright. It’s like the cake if you don’t eat, you don’t eat. But to be sensible and to be acting according to the Divine laws, you should stick on properly with great excitement and great enthusiasm. There are so many marriages in Sahaja Yoga who have been extremely successful. They have got children who are born realized, very beautiful children and they have all the families coming to Sahaja Yoga by seeing how the marriages have taken place. I have to give some notes to you that the husband should not think that because he has married he has a right to dominate the wife, always to sit on her head. Of course in the West they don’t do it. But in India they do it very much. They are very, very aggressive men. On the contrary in the West I find that women are much more, much more aggressive than the men are, which is something I can’t understand. And because of this sometimes the marriages fail. There is no need to aggress anyone. Need not trouble anyone. If it’s absolutely incorrigible, if it is not at all possible to carry on, we have in Sahaja Yoga sanctioned divorces. But it’s a shameful thing. I don’t like it to have divorces and then not to enjoy the life. So you should get into a beautiful romantic mood now, and enjoy your wife and enjoy your husbands. And don’t start quarreling from the first day (Shri Mataji laughs, laughter and applause). Now. If you indulge into divorces you bring actually bad name to your family, upbringing. Then you bring bad name to your country. And as a result other girls who want to get married from your country, because of My experience of such girls who have destroyed their married life, I don’t like to marry anyone from that country. It has become now a practice that we see about six-seven years now, how the marriages have been working out. So if you want to discard completely all the decency and the beauty of Sahaja Yoga marriage, then it would have been better you should have decided not to marry. Because there’s no obligation on us as such. It’s more the obligation on you that you should get a good wife or a good husband. Despite everything - supposing you don’t want to accept it or don’t want to do it, do not just think of the divorce, because I have seen people in the West are always thinking at the time of marriage how to get divorce. But is a very shameful thing. It’s a very wrong thing. It shows no sahaj life. If you are real sahaja yogis you should be able to carry on with your wife or with your husband in a very loving sahaj manner. Is the blessing of Ganesha on you. He’ll protect your married life, He’ll help you very much, He’ll take you away from wrong things. I know it’s such a blissful thing to be married in Sahaja Yoga. But there are some stupid women or stupid men who do not want to enjoy their married life. That case we will agree to have them divorced. But once they are divorced we’ll not allow them to marry in Sahaja Yoga. That is for definite. We don’t want to marry anyone who has divorced. If they have divorced with proper reason it’s alright, but just for the sake of divorcing if you want to have a kind of a special treatment you will not. So I have to tell you that as far as Sahaja Yoga is concerned, divorce is out of bounds but in case you want to fight, you want to trouble, you want to destroy other’s lives, then of course divorce is done. I would request you now to enjoy the company of your wife or your husband. It is for enjoyment that we have started marrying people from this country to that country. Yesterday I have told you that you don’t organize your marriages because we are not responsible. Let us organize your marriages. If you start like this, all kinds of funny problems will start as they have mostly in the Western society. Because, they come here, they want to select a girl, or they select the girl in their, from their own centers. That is in center they are not meditating but trying to find out a girl or a boy. This kind of a nonsense we want to stop. So if you want to marry in Sahaja Yoga you don’t have to find out your own bride or your bridegroom because we want to see how the vibrations match and how things work out. Despite that also marriages fail. But invariably I have seen when the marriages are fixed by themselves they fail. It’s just like any other marriage. So the best thing for you is to now make a compromise with yourself that you are not going to be stupid and you are not going to waste your married life. I’ve been crying, you see, with your smoke (Shri Mataji laughs). So I worked very hard for you. With all this we have done, with such scrutiny, with such understanding; and you should not make us miserable for nothing at all. So I again and again request you that you be in a very happy mood now. I’m very happy, I bless you from My heart. And I am sure your marriages will work out. But don’t be hasty. Take it easy. Everything is to be taken easy first of all, and see, gently work it out your marriage. May God bless you. Thank you all. (Applause) Yogi: Now, now on behalf of yogi married couples and sahaja yogis, we offer garland to Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: In a…(She laughs) We have a custom now that the bride and bridegroom receive their food in one plate, one plate. And they feed each other. So the first, the boy … (Speech in Marathi away from mike) Ah. First the girl, the bride has to give the morsel in the mouth of the husband. You shouldn’t be very naughty to give a big one, alright? (Laughter) Ah. Then the boy, the bridegroom, has to give the morsel in the mouth of his bride - with love. Now also there is custom in India, I don’t know if you can do that. It’s very simple though that you have to take the name of your wife or your husband in a couplet. It’s like this. And if you can do some people, you just compose it now, and you can raise your hands. Say I give you about ten minutes to compose a couplet in any language that you want to, in which the name of the bride and bridegroom is there. So the bride does that and the man does that. Then all your life, married life, you don’t call your husband by name. I mean, it’s something great (She laughs) that you are not to call your husband by name. But you have to say what - I don’t know in English - darling? (She laughs, laughter and applause) That is, that is I don’t know what that is in English, but…. but that’s how, but… according to us in Indian way we call him the master. And also in Maharashtra they call it the Turban-in-the-hook. You see, because the husband has a turban and he puts it on the hook. So they call it… If you ask him (her), “Where is your husband?” - so she, the lady will answer, “The turban-in-the-hook has gone out” (laughter, She laughs). So there are interesting, very, very interesting customs. And that actually brings husband and wife very much together. There are so many games they play after the marriage is done. But practically now I think you have got lots of things done already; but if you want to take the names I’ll give you ten minutes I said. Alright? Thank you. [The garland is offered to Shri Mataji]

9/26/1998

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Evening Program, Eve Of Navaratri Puja

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9/27/1998

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7th Day of Navaratri, You all should depend on Paramchaitanya

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Navaratri puja, "The Pure Knowledge", Cabella (Italy), 27 September 1998. You can’t imagine how a Mother who has so many beautiful children, sees them in such a joyous mood with their families, their children nicely settled down. It is very satisfying to see you all so much in joy and complete oneness with the Divine. One has to realise only one thing, that, though you are many, still, compared to the population of this world, we are very few who really know the True Knowledge, the Real Knowledge. You are the people who are knowledgeable, no doubt. But also knowledge which is not being adorned with Truth, or which is not the True Knowledge, has no meaning. All that vanishes into thin air because it is artificial. By your Kundalini awakening, you all have achieved that state where, we can say, you know. You know what is the Real Knowledge. But think of the people who do not know what knowledge is. We, take for example, we say that our knowledge is nothing but love. But one should understand the discrimination. The knowledge that is love, within you, is just emitting out from your being. You don’t have to assert. You don’t have to think. You don’t have to read some sort of poetry or go into some sort of a romantic mood. It is just Pure Love which emits and this is the Knowledge also. How you have to relate it is this way. The knowledge that you have about yourself is evident, is absolutely expressed, on your fingertips; and about others also. You know about others and about yourself. This is the greatest, subtle knowledge you have. No one knows like that. Apart from you people, no one knows about themselves or about others. So this knowledge has come to you, which is extremely subtle, extremely secretive, absolutely secretive. If you know about somebody, you know. Others do not know that you know about them. And so this knowledge that you have got is nothing but love. It is very difficult to make knowledge and love put together, because our idea of knowledge is very different. What we read from the books. How can you love from the books? What love means [to humans is] - our attachment. To us, in ignorance, you get attached to people, to children, to family, to things. By getting attached meant it is proved that we do not have the knowledge. If you have the knowledge then all attachments should just drop out and you should become a global personality, a drop in the ocean. For example, we are attached to many things, like, we are attached to our family. [If] something happens in the family we get very disturbed, we can’t bear it. If anything happens to our children, we feel horrible, it’s just the whole world falling on you. Then from family, you move on, you are attached to your friends, to your neighbours, you are also attached to your country. Attachment to your country is also not knowledge. Once you are a realised soul you just start seeing your country clearly: what wrong it has got, what ignorance it has got, in what darkness it exists and in what way it is quarrelling, fighting for rights and things. But with the knowledge you have within yourself, you see it so clearly, what is the problem with your country. Then you try to improve that, through your love: means the power of your knowledge is your love. If you have all the knowledge within you and if you are just sitting at home and meditating it has no meaning. What you have to do is to go about: tell people, you have to meet other people, your friends, your family and other relations, about your knowledge. If you cannot do that then your knowledge is not with love. It is such a connection between the two. You feel like telling everybody that you’ve got your realisation. You feel like telling everyone that you are a realised soul. But in that you feel like you are expressing your ego. Alright, by some other ways, by some other methods you can express to them that you have the True Knowledge. When you have the false knowledge, you can get ego. You can think that, "I know so much, I know about this, I know the colour of the carpets, all the shades - everything". Any stupid thing, if you know, you think you are very great. That’s the sign of stupidity, in your head also, if you think that this is very great to know. Now we have discovered that, through all kinds of acquiring knowledge in the whole world - what we have achieved? Nothing. There are wars going on. There’s all kinds of destructions coming in. I saw on the television this [hurricane] George. It’s a whirlwind which is going around and is killing so many people. It’s destroying so many people without understanding what he’s doing. But he’s there and he’s acting very well. So, is it that he doesn’t understand? Or is it that he understands and that he is doing something just to correct people? This also, we should, have to, have full idea. Like yesterday, when I came here it was raining heavily and then I sat down and suddenly it stopped. Stopped till the whole programme was over. Till I spoke, it was not working. But suddenly, when you started clapping, also it started clapping (The hard rain falling on hangar at Cabella really sounded like clapping!!) That’s what it was. So even the nature knows who you are. But you must know the nature, this is the point, nature will act according to what your level, your spirituality is. Surprisingly, I always felt, that there cannot be levels of spirituality. I felt that once you get realisation, you are there. But later on I discovered that I was wrong - it is not so. Even after getting realisation, I found people had so many obstructions in rising. There were so many temptations which were keeping them down. So one had to work out on different chakras, different nadis, somehow or another, to make you perfect. Because the perfection within only will give you the authority to use this Knowledge. There are, as I told you, two ways of doing it. The other day I told you that you should not react. It is human nature to react, it is absolutely human. But if you are to become superhuman, you should not react. By not reacting, you will grow, definitely you will grow. But if you react, then you cannot grow. Because you are working under the pressure of other things that is not yourself. Now supposing, as I said, I see these carpets, I know the colour and this and that, and I react to it: finished! I will not have any sense of judgement if I react to it. But if I don’t react, then I´ll know whether these carpets have got vibrations or not: are they emitting vibrations or not? Now what are these vibrations? That is the love. So the communication is like this. If you have the light you can see things. So when you see things, the light is there and light gives you the perception, gives you the vision to see things. In the same way, when you are enlightened, what happens is that these vibrations start flowing - just like the light, and in that light you can see things which are good and which are bad. But sometimes you put the same parameters as human beings do. Like you go to some house, a very nice house, a very good house - all these things make you very happy. But actually what about that house? Is it having good vibrations or is it having bad vibrations, is it worth living there or not? Like the other day they told me that they can get a very nice place in Milano, a little beyond Milano, for rent, very cheap. I said “Why is it so cheap?“ Immediately I felt the vibrations of the place. I said “Did you go and see the vibrations of that place?“ They went and saw - it was all burning (on vibrations). They found out that there was Scientology there for years together. I said “That’s not the place where you can live“. You have to have a very pure place. Even the hut of a poor man would be better than this comfortable, so-called, place. So one has to use the vibrations all the time to understand everything that you are doing. In that also it can be misleading. Some people feel the vibrations and they tell me “Mother, I’ve felt the vibrations and I’ve felt that I should marry this man". I said "Did you feel the vibrations - yes?". “Yes I did, very much, and I must marry this man“. When I see the man, I see the bhoots in him - I said "My God! What sort of vibrations has this lady felt about him?" So in your judgement, what is there? There is no Pure Knowledge. So see how connected they are: vibrations which is love and also the other thing which you have to have is the knowledge, the Pure Knowledge, the True Knowledge. We can say that Pure Knowledge and the True Knowledge is like the energy, like electricity. And the way you feel it, the way you understand it, it exists, that is love. People don’t understand also, what the love is. They get mad after someone and say that "Mother, I think that I am in-love with that person" and after 5 days they’ll come and say - “Mother no, I won’t have anything to do with that person“. Why? Because you have not got the Pure Knowledge. You did not feel the Pure Knowledge in that person through your vibrations. Now see how connected it is. Like we can say the sun and the sunlight, what is the difference between the two? The sun is there, when the sun comes, there is sunlight. So what is the difference? Or we can say the moon and the moonlight: what is the difference? There is no difference in these two things. One is the moon and the other is the light. So all these things are very very confusing. But we don’t understand how confused we are about it. We don’t understand how our vibrations can mislead us. Because vibrations are there, alright. But sometimes, even if they are missing, just to justify yourself, you will say, "We have vibrations and we feel that it is very good, excellent!" And later on you will discover that it is not so. So even now, when we are realised souls, you should know what is encompassing us, which is around us, what is that which makes us feel that, "It’s alright, it’s good we should have it". Once we start understanding that: vibrations of Pure Knowledge are of a very different nature, then you are not attached to that person, you are not attached to that family, you are not attached to that country - nothing. But what you feel is the pure vibrations coming to you. This is the point which is very confusing - when you say "My vibrations are good, I like those vibrations," while you jump into the ocean of filth! Many people have asked Me “Mother, why is it sometimes we make mistakes?" You do not make mistakes, it’s your ignorance, which is darkness. And that’s why whenever you plunge into it you fall into trouble. So to understand that, our knowledge has to become completely clear. Like in our house, supposing we have a lamp that’s dirty, you cannot get the light. In the same way if our heart is not clean, especially our heart, if it is not clean, then we start doing things which, by believing that it’s right, but [by] which we hurt ourselves or others. It is a very, very common error in human nature to identify wrong things as right just to make themselves look such a great, such a divine thing. As I told you now, there are people who want to say, divide the country. Simple reason, they want to divide. Now they want to divide because they want to have importance. The few people who want their importance will instigate others, tell them "Alright, we must have freedom. If we have freedom we will have this country for ourselves, then we can develop ourselves". Or a part of the country which is richer, which is better off, they will think that "It is alright, we will have all the money to ourselves, we will have everything to ourselves." So they divide. They can divide in the name of religion, in the name of prosperity, whatever it is. But if you divide the country, actually you are facing a big problem because you have seen that, wherever people divide, they fall into a kind of a dark, dark, dungeon from where they cannot come out. It’s just a few people whose ego is that, they want to have some land as their own. But they die, not only die, some of them are murdered. And like that, all that idea, that "we’ll have the possession of the land" goes away. So in the same way we can see on smaller things also. In smaller things also we are very much identified that "If I have this thing, then everything will be fine." You cannot understand how people just jump at things and say “O Mother this is ours, this is ours, we must do this for ourselves!" Openly! They don’t think it’s wrong to say that, “This is my country, I must do for my country,“ and another says “This is my country and I must do for my country.“ As long as there is this 'my' and 'I', that means there is no knowledge. The knowledge, as I told you, Pure Knowledge, is that which gives you a pure light. A pure light means pure vibrations. Now vibrations can be misleading, as I told you, or could be the quantity of vibrations can be less or more. There’s another way to see it, is to see for yourself, "Why do you want to do a particular thing?" Mental also - you can also use parameter of mental understanding. "Why do I want to do it?" "What is the gain for all the people?" If you start thinking from that angle, that: "What is the gain for others? What will they gain by this? Why should I do it?" You’ll be amazed, you will get the real picture of what you are doing. So you must keep yourself all the time in a state where you witness yourself. You see yourself, that, "Why am I doing this? What is the purpose?" Sometimes this could be some conditioning, could be some sort of a psychological thing, could be anything. But if you start watching carefully, "Why I am doing it?" You’ll be amazed that your vibrations itself will start telling you on your fingertips. But sometimes the vibrations are so superficially coming, “Ah, I got vibrations!“, and this and that. For this reason I am saying again and again [that], though you are such a nice family of mine and we are all so much blessed and we have so much of knowledge with us, we should be very wise. There is no wisdom. If there is no wisdom, we can never understand what we are doing. Now to develop this wisdom? What have we to do? You see, every time, if I say anything they’ll come and say "Mother, how do we get wisdom? What is the way to get wisdom?" Wisdom you have already within you, Shri Ganesha is already there, who gives you the wisdom. But you must take to Shri Ganesh. There I find, people become so much addicted to Shri Ganesh that they lose his identity. Completely. They become very slavish about the whole thing and they just believe that they are very spiritual, they are very great. All these false ideas are no good. Does your Ganesha give you wisdom? Now you must count: how many wise things you have done so far? Where did you take a very wise decision? Have you been wise to do something or have you been just doing it because you are identified with a particular type of life or particular type of answer? So wisdom is a thing that gives you, first of all, complete peace. If your wisdom is developed then you become very peaceful. Because whatever people may say, whatever they may do, whatever aggression they may do, whatever it is - you are peaceful. And you see the stupidity of the other people of the other nations and you understand why they are doing it. This wisdom is such an important thing in human beings because animals don’t have so much wisdom as we have. Sometimes, of course, sometimes, we have even less than animals! But still, by experience you see, we have to learn that we have been making mistakes. So many mistakes we have committed so far. Now, are we going to commit more mistakes? Or are we going to be wise? Wisdom is not apparent outside. You can’t say [if] somebody is wise by looking at that person. But in vibrations you will know that, that person is extremely wise. He may speak. He may not speak. If he speaks he’ll speak about something so deep, so wise, and so nice without hurting you. This kind of a temperament, if you develop, is to become wise, for every question. For example, some are very attached to their children. So much attached that they forget that they are part and parcel of this Divine Force and they just start doing all kinds of things. The other day I met one lady whose son was very sick and she took him to the hospital and doctors gave him all kinds of medicines and he became even worse. Then she telephones to me, “Mother I don’t know what happened, I went to the doctor and the doctor gave him this and that treatment, and the child has become worse". "Then why didn’t you ask me before, why did you go to the hospital first?" Lack of wisdom. And there, why don’t you ask? We had one case here in Cabella. There was one child who fell down and broke her arm. Now the mother didn’t show any wisdom and she took the child to the hospital and the doctor said "Tomorrow we are going to operate [on] her and put some artificial arm inside". But the father was sensible, he said “Alright, tomorrow? Not today? I´ll take the child at home." He brought the child to me in the night about 3 o’clock and I said, “Alright." I put it right. Next day when he took her to the hospital, the doctor said “But now there is no need to operate because her arm’s alright!" You see the difference. One is worried, immediately they’ll go to the doctor, instead of consulting Me, asking Me. They are sahaja yogis, but they will go and ask the doctor to do something. Alright. Once the doctor starts doing something then they’ll come to Me. There’s lots of miracles which have taken place about Sahaja Yoga, I must say, and in that, you see, the wisdom helps you. Of course my attention is there always, no doubt, but still you should not take it for granted. You have to ask. One day, you see, I was just sitting and I just thought that I should telephone somebody in the ashram of New York. I never telephoned there [before]. So I found out the phone number and we telephoned and I said "Is the child alright?". So the leader there was surprised, because that boy had fallen in the water and was in the water for quite some time and he was all filled with water, even his brain was filled with water. As usual, there were some doctors who said that he cannot survive and even if he survives his brain has so much water that he cannot be normal. So I just said that "Don’t worry!" I didn’t know, nobody told me. "Don’t worry! The boy will be alright, completely". So they were surprised how I said so! Firstly, how I knew that the boy had fallen, there was some boy like that. And then they did not know how I said he’ll be alright. And he was alright, he’s perfectly alright. So they were surprised at my knowing about it, how is it that Mother knows that there’s a boy who is so sick? Here I will say that it is pure knowledge. You see my attention is always around you people. Always dealing with you. And how I know is this, that this attention of mine is global. So anything happens to you, any upsetting thing takes place, any, I should say a deviation takes place - my attention is there. Immediately I know there is something wrong somewhere and I don’t know how my attention goes to particular places which makes life better - it helps people in need. I don’t do anything about this attention but this attention is the wisdom. The wisdom that spreads all over. With that wisdom you know what’s wrong with another person or any other organisation that is in Sahaja Yoga. Everything you come to know. If you want to know, it’s different, it’s just you know. Like you spread out everywhere. For example, if you have to telephone then you have to use the telephone - but for me I don’t have to use the telephone, I just know. So this has come from a pure innocent wisdom. The innocent wisdom is just like a child, it is everywhere, and it communicates and it tells what’s the matter, what the problem is. Many people have been cured with Sahaja Yoga, many have been cured. Now if they can say, that “Mother how did we get cured? What have we done? Did you see our chakras, did you find out what was wrong with us?" No, I haven’t, I haven’t, but I leave it, in my wisdom, I leave it to Paramchaitanya to do the job. This is the main point is: that, can you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in your wisdom? If you cannot then yet you have not felt the Real Knowledge within you. That is the level that some people are. I am not now so sure about those who get realisation are all so much filled with Pure Knowledge. Some of them are, but not all of them. With experience they learn. With meeting people they learn. But as the wisdom, pure wisdom...is difficult for them because they do not rely entirely on the Paramchaitanya. Everything happens, just the Paramchaitanya knows, It understands, It organises, It loves, It does everything. That’s the energy It is. It does everything. And how It manages! How [things that] we call coincidences, are really organised by Paramchaitanya. As I told you yesterday the way the rain was, the rain came and went away. It has wisdom. Innately it knows I am sitting here. [When] the programme is going to start it stops. The flowers know Me. You don’t know, when we have flowers, they are of this size, I don’t do anything to them, they start growing and growing and blast like that. Now, one would say, now “Mother how do they know?" Because they are natural. We are unnatural. We have taken so many artificialities as part and parcel of life. You see all kinds of courtesies, this, that. All that’s not necessary. All these stupid practices that we have adopted sometimes keeps us away from Pure Knowledge. And when there’s no Pure Knowledge, we don’t know anything what’s happening, we just get frightened for small things, upset for something. I mean it’s something very surprising to see sahaja yogis getting upset. Among a hundred people, if supposing there’s a problem, so, if you are a sahaja yogi, you have to just witness and see. If you cannot do that then you are not a sahaja yogi. But it’s not like practicing, you know. Like they say, if you have to have the blessings of Shiva, you must say 108 times His name. That’s not the way! He doesn’t like it. You see, nobody likes that kind of a murmuring. You see [if] somebody comes and takes your name all the time near your door you will throw him out! So that’s not the way, that’s a wrong idea that you go on taking the name of somebody and that Deity will help you. First of all you have to become wise enough to understand that you are a part and parcel of Paramchaitanya. Everything will work out by that, and it works out so beautifully. Of course, some people have a hard time, I don’t say they don’t have. But it is not hard, because if you are one with Paramchaitanya, and you know that It is doing the job, you are not feeling that hardness, or sickness or anything. All the people who write to Me about their problems, I don’t know what to say. All I can say is "Do you believe in Paramchaitanya?" Alright, It knows. It knows what is to be done. It knows what is to be corrected, It knows what is to be said. You see It can create poetry, It can create music, It can create everything. But do you leave everything to the Paramchaitanya? This is the second point in wisdom. Do you have wisdom to leave everything to Paramchaitanya, after experiencing also? Like there was one lady who was going in a car and she found, on her car, that her brakes weren’t braking and she didn’t know what to do now. If the brakes were not working more how will she manage? It was in Germany, all the cars were moving very fast and she did not know what to do. So she put her head on the steering wheel and she said "I leave it to Paramchaitanya". She said she leaves it to Me. Alright, it’s the same. So by saying that, what happened, she said, “Mother, I don’t know, when I raised my head I found my car was taken on one side of the road and nobody was there." All the cars were passing by but somehow or another this car was taken there very nicely by some force. So the wisdom lies in understanding the working of Paramchaitanya. How it guides you, how it helps you, how it preserves you, how, [by] depending on Paramchaitanya, you can continue to be living very happily. I think in Sahaja Yoga we have lost very few sahaja yogis. They live for long, they don’t die, and if you ask their experiences, it’s very amazing, how it works out. If they don’t want to live, also, they can pass. But if they want to live, Paramchaitanya takes over and you can live long. But living long doesn’t mean that you go on bothering yourself, as to what you will do with your money, how will you live, what will be the source. [When] all these nonsensical things, worries come to you, alright, then the Paramchaitanya says “Alright, go on worrying!" If you go on worrying, "Alright go on worrying!" It doesn’t matter, what will happen? Whatever has to happen, will happen. But Paramchaitanya can interfere in case you leave it to Paramchaitanya. They said many a times, leave it to God, leave it to God. What God means, I don’t know what they mean by God. God means Paramchaitanya, God means giving divine force, that is working everything. So another way of looking at it is, the wisdom that we should understand, that each and every particle of this world is created by Divine - by the Divine force. And these particles and everything are completely under the guidance and supervision of Paramchaitanya. Nothing can move under something Paramchaitanya works on. It is something so connected, globally it’s so much there that people don’t realise what they are doing, what they should have done. I mean on many scales you find something happening. Like, supposing something is happening now in America. Just try to find out what America has done to other countries - immediately you will get the answer. So also it takes full care of the persons who believe in Paramchaitanya, who give everything in the hands of Paramchaitanya. We give things to the police, we’ll give to the doctors, we’ll give it to some civil people, engineers to do some things. But they can make mistakes, they can create problems - but you leave it to Paramchaitanya. It is something so remarkable that in my own life I have seen that all the time it works for me. I was building a house in Pune and we had to put a slab, a very, very big slab. We needed about 300 bags of cement for that. So I got the cement and I got the people but they said to start early in the morning and you can finish next morning - 24 hours. I said alright. So, at about 5 o’clock, I told "Let’s go, the work is over". They said, “How do you know?“ I said, “I know, let’s go and see“. Imagine, it was going to finish after 12 hours. It was already finished and all the workers were walking about. Everybody said “Mother, it is a miracle, how can such a big slab be laid in such a short time?“ I said, you see, to make them understand, I said, “Hanumana must have done the job“. But all these people, all these Deities, are part and parcel of that Paramchaitanya. Now you are worshipping the Mother. To worship the Mother it is the biggest thing because all these deities and everybody are under [Her]. Her children under Her command, under her desire. So, to worship the Mother the story of, as you know about, Ganesha - that the Mother said that the one who goes round the mother earth 3 times I will give him a present. So Shri Ganesha thought, in his wisdom, "Who is greater than my mother? No one else." Because he knew he cannot compete with his brother who has got a peacock for a conveyance. So he said “How can I go round and win over this person?" So best is to take to wisdom. "My Mother is greater than everything else!" So he went round his mother 3times and he got the prize and the other brother was just still moving on. When he came back he found that the present is already lost. So, again and again I will say - it is the wisdom that helps. The wisdom to leave everything to Paramchaitanya and this is something for a modern person, very difficult to understand. He can’t calculate 2 + 2. It is so bad! Because of these computers and things like that. It is absolutely hopeless as far as any mathematical calculations are needed. Now I must say I don’t know how to handle any computer or calculator, but if you ask Me just like that, "Mother how much will it be?" I´ll say "So much," and it will be that. It will be that. But I am so sure about it: it cannot be anything else but that and it works that way. Sometimes of course, if I want to tell some wrong thing just to mislead the person then I may say something, but normally I know it is that. But I know not like the way we know, I just know it! That’s what it is: just know it. So I am not saying that you develop your knowledge to that extent that you can do it. But your wisdom. If you start using your wisdom it will always come in handy. In anything that you do, think of the wisdom. My advice to you is that, as your Mother, who loves the whole world, who loves all of you and cares for those who haven’t even got realisation - you should also try to create more people for Sahaja Yoga. But in that, if you start behaving in a manner all the time, saying, “You are catching this, you are a bhoot, you are this, you are that." I have never said that to anyone, so you shouldn’t say like that. There is no love, there is no understanding. The understanding is that: you were just the same as the person was and now you are knowledgeable and so you must use your knowledge to correct that person, not to put him down. And that correction is also not verbal. It is just through your vibrations you can correct the other person. Most of the Sahaja work sometimes, I’ve seen that it stops, because we are very methodical, we become like great teachers, we start telling them stories and then they get fed up with you. So when you are handling other people, as I said, we have to spread the knowledge. It is very important. We cannot keep it to ourselves. But it is not for any ambition for any leadership, for any kind of recognition but just the use of our wisdom, the use of our knowledge, that we want to help others out of love. Not for any recognition, not for any position, nothing. Just we want to do it because we love them. And I am sure this will work out very effectively and the person who will be helped or the persons will be helped will be just bound to you because they find the true knowledge. But supposing somebody comes to you and says “I know the true knowledge“ . You should say “You might be knowing, but I have to know what you know“. Then you ask that person and he will give you a big lecture. You say, “No, that’s not the thing", just smile and say, “That’s not the thing." The thing is, true knowledge is a part and parcel of your being. It’s just within you. It is not some sort of a concrete stuff that you have read or you have understood but it just has become a light within you, and that light is there. There’s no necessity for you to be very well-educated or to be very intelligent or to be very highly placed - it is not necessary. It is how your heart is clean. In the heart it resides. Imagine all other knowledge resides in the brain, while the Pure Knowledge resides in the heart. It is very surprising. But we do not know also that actually our heart rules the head. There are seven auras around the heart which control the brain in such a manner that we act in the hands of the Paramchaitanya. Unless and until your heart is clean, unless and until, in your heart, you have a beautiful image of a person who is very, very pure - you cannot, you cannot do anything mentally. From your heart, if you have to do, your heart has to be very clean and extremely wise. This is the point one has to jump into that your heart, is it wise? For example, to get attached to someone too much, identified with someone too much. [This] shows that your heart is not clean, it has so many bondages. Open your heart, fully. And that’s why they say that the Goddess resides in the heart, in the centre heart. She resides in the centre heart because she is so balanced. She resides in the centre heart as Shakti. And She gives you all that you want. Within you She’s settled down, as many things. You know the slokas which says, that "She’s settled within us like knowledge, she is settled within us as memory, she’s settled within us as sleep also she’s settled within us as illusion, bhranti." She’s the one who puts us into illusions because we are not yet fully perfected. We have to become paripakva - means absolutely matured. Till we are matured, this Mother, Herself, puts you into illusions and plays around so that you learn how to be wise. So one should understand that She’s playing around with you and you should try to be very careful and not to be falling into Her Maya, because if She puts you in the Maya, you’ll go round and round and you will reach nowhere. So this power of bhranti is also very important. This delusion, you can call it, or you can call it a thing by which she creates a drama in which you become like a stupid man being found out. So this stupidity and all that can be removed by this bhranti that She creates. This power of bhranti, is because of human beings, as they are, because they will not understand something straight forward. So it has to go round and round until they reach a point to understand that it was the play of the Mother that brought them to the shore of wisdom. So for us it is important to see that so much has been done by Paramchaitanya for us. The Mother has done so much for us. Now what are we going to do ourselves to get all these powers that She has given us, to be completely enlightened and developed? What have we done so far? Nothing to be done as such, but to develop a kind of a deep devotion, deep understanding. And that depth is possible, absolutely possible, because now you are on your way to that perfection. So today, in Cabella, is the last puja and I want to tell you, as a Mother, that you all should depend on Paramchaitanya. That’s very important to depend on Paramchaitanya. Also there is a habit of many people to put the blame on others. Like "I got caught up from this person, and got caught up from that person." You are caught up by yourself only! All such ideas are of no use. Face yourself, find out about yourself and you have to perfect yourself, that is so important, because, at this juncture of time, people think that something great is going to happen. I don’t know, 2000 years, according to them, will be something great. But I don’t know, because it is all man-made, all this 2000 year and 3000 year is man-made. But I myself, as predicted by many, that possibly because of your understanding and your wisdom, I’m sure something great may happen in this world and things may be brought to a proper level of understanding, of spirituality, because this is the Last Judgement, and in this Last Judgement, you have to play a very vital role, which I am sure you can do it, if you decide to achieve something for the future. May Good Bless You

Navaratri puja, "The Pure Knowledge", Cabella (Italy), 27 September 1998. You can’t imagine how a Mother who has so many beautiful children, sees them in such a joyous mood with their families, their children nicely settled down. It is very satisfying to see you all so much in joy and complete oneness with the Divine. One has to realise only one thing, that, though you are many, still, compared to the population of this world, we are very few who really know the True Knowledge, the Real Knowledge. You are the people who are knowledgeable, no doubt. But also knowledge which is not being adorned with Truth, or which is not the True Knowledge, has no meaning. All that vanishes into thin air because it is artificial. By your Kundalini awakening, you all have achieved that state where, we can say, you know. You know what is the Real Knowledge. But think of the people who do not know what knowledge is. We, take for example, we say that our knowledge is nothing but love. But one should understand the discrimination. The knowledge that is love, within you, is just emitting out from your being. You don’t have to assert. You don’t have to think. You don’t have to read some sort of poetry or go into some sort of a romantic mood. It is just Pure Love which emits and this is the Knowledge also. How you have to relate it is this way. The knowledge that you have about yourself is evident, is absolutely expressed, on your fingertips; and about others also. You know about others and about yourself. This is the greatest, subtle knowledge you have. No one knows like that. Apart from you people, no one knows about themselves or about others. So this knowledge has come to you, which is extremely subtle, extremely secretive, absolutely secretive. If you know about somebody, you know. Others do not know that you know about them. And so this knowledge that you have got is nothing but love. It is very difficult to make knowledge and love put together, because our idea of knowledge is very different. What we read from the books. How can you love from the books? What love means [to humans is] - our attachment. To us, in ignorance, you get attached to people, to children, to family, to things. By getting attached meant it is proved that we do not have the knowledge. If you have the knowledge then all attachments should just drop out and you should become a global personality, a drop in the ocean. For example, we are attached to many things, like, we are attached to our family. [If] something happens in the family we get very disturbed, we can’t bear it. If anything happens to our children, we feel horrible, it’s just the whole world falling on you. Then from family, you move on, you are attached to your friends, to your neighbours, you are also attached to your country. Attachment to your country is also not knowledge. Once you are a realised soul you just start seeing your country clearly: what wrong it has got, what ignorance it has got, in what darkness it exists and in what way it is quarrelling, fighting for rights and things. But with the knowledge you have within yourself, you see it so clearly, what is the problem with your country. Then you try to improve that, through your love: means the power of your knowledge is your love. If you have all the knowledge within you and if you are just sitting at home and meditating it has no meaning. What you have to do is to go about: tell people, you have to meet other people, your friends, your family and other relations, about your knowledge. If you cannot do that then your knowledge is not with love. It is such a connection between the two. You feel like telling everybody that you’ve got your realisation. You feel like telling everyone that you are a realised soul. But in that you feel like you are expressing your ego. Alright, by some other ways, by some other methods you can express to them that you have the True Knowledge. When you have the false knowledge, you can get ego. You can think that, "I know so much, I know about this, I know the colour of the carpets, all the shades - everything". Any stupid thing, if you know, you think you are very great. That’s the sign of stupidity, in your head also, if you think that this is very great to know. Now we have discovered that, through all kinds of acquiring knowledge in the whole world - what we have achieved? Nothing. There are wars going on. There’s all kinds of destructions coming in. I saw on the television this [hurricane] George. It’s a whirlwind which is going around and is killing so many people. It’s destroying so many people without understanding what he’s doing. But he’s there and he’s acting very well. So, is it that he doesn’t understand? Or is it that he understands and that he is doing something just to correct people? This also, we should, have to, have full idea. Like yesterday, when I came here it was raining heavily and then I sat down and suddenly it stopped. Stopped till the whole programme was over. Till I spoke, it was not working. But suddenly, when you started clapping, also it started clapping (The hard rain falling on hangar at Cabella really sounded like clapping!!) That’s what it was. So even the nature knows who you are. But you must know the nature, this is the point, nature will act according to what your level, your spirituality is. Surprisingly, I always felt, that there cannot be levels of spirituality. I felt that once you get realisation, you are there. But later on I discovered that I was wrong - it is not so. Even after getting realisation, I found people had so many obstructions in rising. There were so many temptations which were keeping them down. So one had to work out on different chakras, different nadis, somehow or another, to make you perfect. Because the perfection within only will give you the authority to use this Knowledge. There are, as I told you, two ways of doing it. The other day I told you that you should not react. It is human nature to react, it is absolutely human. But if you are to become superhuman, you should not react. By not reacting, you will grow, definitely you will grow. But if you react, then you cannot grow. Because you are working under the pressure of other things that is not yourself. Now supposing, as I said, I see these carpets, I know the colour and this and that, and I react to it: finished! I will not have any sense of judgement if I react to it. But if I don’t react, then I´ll know whether these carpets have got vibrations or not: are they emitting vibrations or not? Now what are these vibrations? That is the love. So the communication is like this. If you have the light you can see things. So when you see things, the light is there and light gives you the perception, gives you the vision to see things. In the same way, when you are enlightened, what happens is that these vibrations start flowing - just like the light, and in that light you can see things which are good and which are bad. But sometimes you put the same parameters as human beings do. Like you go to some house, a very nice house, a very good house - all these things make you very happy. But actually what about that house? Is it having good vibrations or is it having bad vibrations, is it worth living there or not? Like the other day they told me that they can get a very nice place in Milano, a little beyond Milano, for rent, very cheap. I said “Why is it so cheap?“ Immediately I felt the vibrations of the place. I said “Did you go and see the vibrations of that place?“ They went and saw - it was all burning (on vibrations). They found out that there was Scientology there for years together. I said “That’s not the place where you can live“. You have to have a very pure place. Even the hut of a poor man would be better than this comfortable, so-called, place. So one has to use the vibrations all the time to understand everything that you are doing. In that also it can be misleading. Some people feel the vibrations and they tell me “Mother, I’ve felt the vibrations and I’ve felt that I should marry this man". I said "Did you feel the vibrations - yes?". “Yes I did, very much, and I must marry this man“. When I see the man, I see the bhoots in him - I said "My God! What sort of vibrations has this lady felt about him?" So in your judgement, what is there? There is no Pure Knowledge. So see how connected they are: vibrations which is love and also the other thing which you have to have is the knowledge, the Pure Knowledge, the True Knowledge. We can say that Pure Knowledge and the True Knowledge is like the energy, like electricity. And the way you feel it, the way you understand it, it exists, that is love. People don’t understand also, what the love is. They get mad after someone and say that "Mother, I think that I am in-love with that person" and after 5 days they’ll come and say - “Mother no, I won’t have anything to do with that person“. Why? Because you have not got the Pure Knowledge. You did not feel the Pure Knowledge in that person through your vibrations. Now see how connected it is. Like we can say the sun and the sunlight, what is the difference between the two? The sun is there, when the sun comes, there is sunlight. So what is the difference? Or we can say the moon and the moonlight: what is the difference? There is no difference in these two things. One is the moon and the other is the light. So all these things are very very confusing. But we don’t understand how confused we are about it. We don’t understand how our vibrations can mislead us. Because vibrations are there, alright. But sometimes, even if they are missing, just to justify yourself, you will say, "We have vibrations and we feel that it is very good, excellent!" And later on you will discover that it is not so. So even now, when we are realised souls, you should know what is encompassing us, which is around us, what is that which makes us feel that, "It’s alright, it’s good we should have it". Once we start understanding that: vibrations of Pure Knowledge are of a very different nature, then you are not attached to that person, you are not attached to that family, you are not attached to that country - nothing. But what you feel is the pure vibrations coming to you. This is the point which is very confusing - when you say "My vibrations are good, I like those vibrations," while you jump into the ocean of filth! Many people have asked Me “Mother, why is it sometimes we make mistakes?" You do not make mistakes, it’s your ignorance, which is darkness. And that’s why whenever you plunge into it you fall into trouble. So to understand that, our knowledge has to become completely clear. Like in our house, supposing we have a lamp that’s dirty, you cannot get the light. In the same way if our heart is not clean, especially our heart, if it is not clean, then we start doing things which, by believing that it’s right, but [by] which we hurt ourselves or others. It is a very, very common error in human nature to identify wrong things as right just to make themselves look such a great, such a divine thing. As I told you now, there are people who want to say, divide the country. Simple reason, they want to divide. Now they want to divide because they want to have importance. The few people who want their importance will instigate others, tell them "Alright, we must have freedom. If we have freedom we will have this country for ourselves, then we can develop ourselves". Or a part of the country which is richer, which is better off, they will think that "It is alright, we will have all the money to ourselves, we will have everything to ourselves." So they divide. They can divide in the name of religion, in the name of prosperity, whatever it is. But if you divide the country, actually you are facing a big problem because you have seen that, wherever people divide, they fall into a kind of a dark, dark, dungeon from where they cannot come out. It’s just a few people whose ego is that, they want to have some land as their own. But they die, not only die, some of them are murdered. And like that, all that idea, that "we’ll have the possession of the land" goes away. So in the same way we can see on smaller things also. In smaller things also we are very much identified that "If I have this thing, then everything will be fine." You cannot understand how people just jump at things and say “O Mother this is ours, this is ours, we must do this for ourselves!" Openly! They don’t think it’s wrong to say that, “This is my country, I must do for my country,“ and another says “This is my country and I must do for my country.“ As long as there is this 'my' and 'I', that means there is no knowledge. The knowledge, as I told you, Pure Knowledge, is that which gives you a pure light. A pure light means pure vibrations. Now vibrations can be misleading, as I told you, or could be the quantity of vibrations can be less or more. There’s another way to see it, is to see for yourself, "Why do you want to do a particular thing?" Mental also - you can also use parameter of mental understanding. "Why do I want to do it?" "What is the gain for all the people?" If you start thinking from that angle, that: "What is the gain for others? What will they gain by this? Why should I do it?" You’ll be amazed, you will get the real picture of what you are doing. So you must keep yourself all the time in a state where you witness yourself. You see yourself, that, "Why am I doing this? What is the purpose?" Sometimes this could be some conditioning, could be some sort of a psychological thing, could be anything. But if you start watching carefully, "Why I am doing it?" You’ll be amazed that your vibrations itself will start telling you on your fingertips. But sometimes the vibrations are so superficially coming, “Ah, I got vibrations!“, and this and that. For this reason I am saying again and again [that], though you are such a nice family of mine and we are all so much blessed and we have so much of knowledge with us, we should be very wise. There is no wisdom. If there is no wisdom, we can never understand what we are doing. Now to develop this wisdom? What have we to do? You see, every time, if I say anything they’ll come and say "Mother, how do we get wisdom? What is the way to get wisdom?" Wisdom you have already within you, Shri Ganesha is already there, who gives you the wisdom. But you must take to Shri Ganesh. There I find, people become so much addicted to Shri Ganesh that they lose his identity. Completely. They become very slavish about the whole thing and they just believe that they are very spiritual, they are very great. All these false ideas are no good. Does your Ganesha give you wisdom? Now you must count: how many wise things you have done so far? Where did you take a very wise decision? Have you been wise to do something or have you been just doing it because you are identified with a particular type of life or particular type of answer? So wisdom is a thing that gives you, first of all, complete peace. If your wisdom is developed then you become very peaceful. Because whatever people may say, whatever they may do, whatever aggression they may do, whatever it is - you are peaceful. And you see the stupidity of the other people of the other nations and you understand why they are doing it. This wisdom is such an important thing in human beings because animals don’t have so much wisdom as we have. Sometimes, of course, sometimes, we have even less than animals! But still, by experience you see, we have to learn that we have been making mistakes. So many mistakes we have committed so far. Now, are we going to commit more mistakes? Or are we going to be wise? Wisdom is not apparent outside. You can’t say [if] somebody is wise by looking at that person. But in vibrations you will know that, that person is extremely wise. He may speak. He may not speak. If he speaks he’ll speak about something so deep, so wise, and so nice without hurting you. This kind of a temperament, if you develop, is to become wise, for every question. For example, some are very attached to their children. So much attached that they forget that they are part and parcel of this Divine Force and they just start doing all kinds of things. The other day I met one lady whose son was very sick and she took him to the hospital and doctors gave him all kinds of medicines and he became even worse. Then she telephones to me, “Mother I don’t know what happened, I went to the doctor and the doctor gave him this and that treatment, and the child has become worse". "Then why didn’t you ask me before, why did you go to the hospital first?" Lack of wisdom. And there, why don’t you ask? We had one case here in Cabella. There was one child who fell down and broke her arm. Now the mother didn’t show any wisdom and she took the child to the hospital and the doctor said "Tomorrow we are going to operate [on] her and put some artificial arm inside". But the father was sensible, he said “Alright, tomorrow? Not today? I´ll take the child at home." He brought the child to me in the night about 3 o’clock and I said, “Alright." I put it right. Next day when he took her to the hospital, the doctor said “But now there is no need to operate because her arm’s alright!" You see the difference. One is worried, immediately they’ll go to the doctor, instead of consulting Me, asking Me. They are sahaja yogis, but they will go and ask the doctor to do something. Alright. Once the doctor starts doing something then they’ll come to Me. There’s lots of miracles which have taken place about Sahaja Yoga, I must say, and in that, you see, the wisdom helps you. Of course my attention is there always, no doubt, but still you should not take it for granted. You have to ask. One day, you see, I was just sitting and I just thought that I should telephone somebody in the ashram of New York. I never telephoned there [before]. So I found out the phone number and we telephoned and I said "Is the child alright?". So the leader there was surprised, because that boy had fallen in the water and was in the water for quite some time and he was all filled with water, even his brain was filled with water. As usual, there were some doctors who said that he cannot survive and even if he survives his brain has so much water that he cannot be normal. So I just said that "Don’t worry!" I didn’t know, nobody told me. "Don’t worry! The boy will be alright, completely". So they were surprised how I said so! Firstly, how I knew that the boy had fallen, there was some boy like that. And then they did not know how I said he’ll be alright. And he was alright, he’s perfectly alright. So they were surprised at my knowing about it, how is it that Mother knows that there’s a boy who is so sick? Here I will say that it is pure knowledge. You see my attention is always around you people. Always dealing with you. And how I know is this, that this attention of mine is global. So anything happens to you, any upsetting thing takes place, any, I should say a deviation takes place - my attention is there. Immediately I know there is something wrong somewhere and I don’t know how my attention goes to particular places which makes life better - it helps people in need. I don’t do anything about this attention but this attention is the wisdom. The wisdom that spreads all over. With that wisdom you know what’s wrong with another person or any other organisation that is in Sahaja Yoga. Everything you come to know. If you want to know, it’s different, it’s just you know. Like you spread out everywhere. For example, if you have to telephone then you have to use the telephone - but for me I don’t have to use the telephone, I just know. So this has come from a pure innocent wisdom. The innocent wisdom is just like a child, it is everywhere, and it communicates and it tells what’s the matter, what the problem is. Many people have been cured with Sahaja Yoga, many have been cured. Now if they can say, that “Mother how did we get cured? What have we done? Did you see our chakras, did you find out what was wrong with us?" No, I haven’t, I haven’t, but I leave it, in my wisdom, I leave it to Paramchaitanya to do the job. This is the main point is: that, can you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in your wisdom? If you cannot then yet you have not felt the Real Knowledge within you. That is the level that some people are. I am not now so sure about those who get realisation are all so much filled with Pure Knowledge. Some of them are, but not all of them. With experience they learn. With meeting people they learn. But as the wisdom, pure wisdom...is difficult for them because they do not rely entirely on the Paramchaitanya. Everything happens, just the Paramchaitanya knows, It understands, It organises, It loves, It does everything. That’s the energy It is. It does everything. And how It manages! How [things that] we call coincidences, are really organised by Paramchaitanya. As I told you yesterday the way the rain was, the rain came and went away. It has wisdom. Innately it knows I am sitting here. [When] the programme is going to start it stops. The flowers know Me. You don’t know, when we have flowers, they are of this size, I don’t do anything to them, they start growing and growing and blast like that. Now, one would say, now “Mother how do they know?" Because they are natural. We are unnatural. We have taken so many artificialities as part and parcel of life. You see all kinds of courtesies, this, that. All that’s not necessary. All these stupid practices that we have adopted sometimes keeps us away from Pure Knowledge. And when there’s no Pure Knowledge, we don’t know anything what’s happening, we just get frightened for small things, upset for something. I mean it’s something very surprising to see sahaja yogis getting upset. Among a hundred people, if supposing there’s a problem, so, if you are a sahaja yogi, you have to just witness and see. If you cannot do that then you are not a sahaja yogi. But it’s not like practicing, you know. Like they say, if you have to have the blessings of Shiva, you must say 108 times His name. That’s not the way! He doesn’t like it. You see, nobody likes that kind of a murmuring. You see [if] somebody comes and takes your name all the time near your door you will throw him out! So that’s not the way, that’s a wrong idea that you go on taking the name of somebody and that Deity will help you. First of all you have to become wise enough to understand that you are a part and parcel of Paramchaitanya. Everything will work out by that, and it works out so beautifully. Of course, some people have a hard time, I don’t say they don’t have. But it is not hard, because if you are one with Paramchaitanya, and you know that It is doing the job, you are not feeling that hardness, or sickness or anything. All the people who write to Me about their problems, I don’t know what to say. All I can say is "Do you believe in Paramchaitanya?" Alright, It knows. It knows what is to be done. It knows what is to be corrected, It knows what is to be said. You see It can create poetry, It can create music, It can create everything. But do you leave everything to the Paramchaitanya? This is the second point in wisdom. Do you have wisdom to leave everything to Paramchaitanya, after experiencing also? Like there was one lady who was going in a car and she found, on her car, that her brakes weren’t braking and she didn’t know what to do now. If the brakes were not working more how will she manage? It was in Germany, all the cars were moving very fast and she did not know what to do. So she put her head on the steering wheel and she said "I leave it to Paramchaitanya". She said she leaves it to Me. Alright, it’s the same. So by saying that, what happened, she said, “Mother, I don’t know, when I raised my head I found my car was taken on one side of the road and nobody was there." All the cars were passing by but somehow or another this car was taken there very nicely by some force. So the wisdom lies in understanding the working of Paramchaitanya. How it guides you, how it helps you, how it preserves you, how, [by] depending on Paramchaitanya, you can continue to be living very happily. I think in Sahaja Yoga we have lost very few sahaja yogis. They live for long, they don’t die, and if you ask their experiences, it’s very amazing, how it works out. If they don’t want to live, also, they can pass. But if they want to live, Paramchaitanya takes over and you can live long. But living long doesn’t mean that you go on bothering yourself, as to what you will do with your money, how will you live, what will be the source. [When] all these nonsensical things, worries come to you, alright, then the Paramchaitanya says “Alright, go on worrying!" If you go on worrying, "Alright go on worrying!" It doesn’t matter, what will happen? Whatever has to happen, will happen. But Paramchaitanya can interfere in case you leave it to Paramchaitanya. They said many a times, leave it to God, leave it to God. What God means, I don’t know what they mean by God. God means Paramchaitanya, God means giving divine force, that is working everything. So another way of looking at it is, the wisdom that we should understand, that each and every particle of this world is created by Divine - by the Divine force. And these particles and everything are completely under the guidance and supervision of Paramchaitanya. Nothing can move under something Paramchaitanya works on. It is something so connected, globally it’s so much there that people don’t realise what they are doing, what they should have done. I mean on many scales you find something happening. Like, supposing something is happening now in America. Just try to find out what America has done to other countries - immediately you will get the answer. So also it takes full care of the persons who believe in Paramchaitanya, who give everything in the hands of Paramchaitanya. We give things to the police, we’ll give to the doctors, we’ll give it to some civil people, engineers to do some things. But they can make mistakes, they can create problems - but you leave it to Paramchaitanya. It is something so remarkable that in my own life I have seen that all the time it works for me. I was building a house in Pune and we had to put a slab, a very, very big slab. We needed about 300 bags of cement for that. So I got the cement and I got the people but they said to start early in the morning and you can finish next morning - 24 hours. I said alright. So, at about 5 o’clock, I told "Let’s go, the work is over". They said, “How do you know?“ I said, “I know, let’s go and see“. Imagine, it was going to finish after 12 hours. It was already finished and all the workers were walking about. Everybody said “Mother, it is a miracle, how can such a big slab be laid in such a short time?“ I said, you see, to make them understand, I said, “Hanumana must have done the job“. But all these people, all these Deities, are part and parcel of that Paramchaitanya. Now you are worshipping the Mother. To worship the Mother it is the biggest thing because all these deities and everybody are under [Her]. Her children under Her command, under her desire. So, to worship the Mother the story of, as you know about, Ganesha - that the Mother said that the one who goes round the mother earth 3 times I will give him a present. So Shri Ganesha thought, in his wisdom, "Who is greater than my mother? No one else." Because he knew he cannot compete with his brother who has got a peacock for a conveyance. So he said “How can I go round and win over this person?" So best is to take to wisdom. "My Mother is greater than everything else!" So he went round his mother 3times and he got the prize and the other brother was just still moving on. When he came back he found that the present is already lost. So, again and again I will say - it is the wisdom that helps. The wisdom to leave everything to Paramchaitanya and this is something for a modern person, very difficult to understand. He can’t calculate 2 + 2. It is so bad! Because of these computers and things like that. It is absolutely hopeless as far as any mathematical calculations are needed. Now I must say I don’t know how to handle any computer or calculator, but if you ask Me just like that, "Mother how much will it be?" I´ll say "So much," and it will be that. It will be that. But I am so sure about it: it cannot be anything else but that and it works that way. Sometimes of course, if I want to tell some wrong thing just to mislead the person then I may say something, but normally I know it is that. But I know not like the way we know, I just know it! That’s what it is: just know it. So I am not saying that you develop your knowledge to that extent that you can do it. But your wisdom. If you start using your wisdom it will always come in handy. In anything that you do, think of the wisdom. My advice to you is that, as your Mother, who loves the whole world, who loves all of you and cares for those who haven’t even got realisation - you should also try to create more people for Sahaja Yoga. But in that, if you start behaving in a manner all the time, saying, “You are catching this, you are a bhoot, you are this, you are that." I have never said that to anyone, so you shouldn’t say like that. There is no love, there is no understanding. The understanding is that: you were just the same as the person was and now you are knowledgeable and so you must use your knowledge to correct that person, not to put him down. And that correction is also not verbal. It is just through your vibrations you can correct the other person. Most of the Sahaja work sometimes, I’ve seen that it stops, because we are very methodical, we become like great teachers, we start telling them stories and then they get fed up with you. So when you are handling other people, as I said, we have to spread the knowledge. It is very important. We cannot keep it to ourselves. But it is not for any ambition for any leadership, for any kind of recognition but just the use of our wisdom, the use of our knowledge, that we want to help others out of love. Not for any recognition, not for any position, nothing. Just we want to do it because we love them. And I am sure this will work out very effectively and the person who will be helped or the persons will be helped will be just bound to you because they find the true knowledge. But supposing somebody comes to you and says “I know the true knowledge“ . You should say “You might be knowing, but I have to know what you know“. Then you ask that person and he will give you a big lecture. You say, “No, that’s not the thing", just smile and say, “That’s not the thing." The thing is, true knowledge is a part and parcel of your being. It’s just within you. It is not some sort of a concrete stuff that you have read or you have understood but it just has become a light within you, and that light is there. There’s no necessity for you to be very well-educated or to be very intelligent or to be very highly placed - it is not necessary. It is how your heart is clean. In the heart it resides. Imagine all other knowledge resides in the brain, while the Pure Knowledge resides in the heart. It is very surprising. But we do not know also that actually our heart rules the head. There are seven auras around the heart which control the brain in such a manner that we act in the hands of the Paramchaitanya. Unless and until your heart is clean, unless and until, in your heart, you have a beautiful image of a person who is very, very pure - you cannot, you cannot do anything mentally. From your heart, if you have to do, your heart has to be very clean and extremely wise. This is the point one has to jump into that your heart, is it wise? For example, to get attached to someone too much, identified with someone too much. [This] shows that your heart is not clean, it has so many bondages. Open your heart, fully. And that’s why they say that the Goddess resides in the heart, in the centre heart. She resides in the centre heart because she is so balanced. She resides in the centre heart as Shakti. And She gives you all that you want. Within you She’s settled down, as many things. You know the slokas which says, that "She’s settled within us like knowledge, she is settled within us as memory, she’s settled within us as sleep also she’s settled within us as illusion, bhranti." She’s the one who puts us into illusions because we are not yet fully perfected. We have to become paripakva - means absolutely matured. Till we are matured, this Mother, Herself, puts you into illusions and plays around so that you learn how to be wise. So one should understand that She’s playing around with you and you should try to be very careful and not to be falling into Her Maya, because if She puts you in the Maya, you’ll go round and round and you will reach nowhere. So this power of bhranti is also very important. This delusion, you can call it, or you can call it a thing by which she creates a drama in which you become like a stupid man being found out. So this stupidity and all that can be removed by this bhranti that She creates. This power of bhranti, is because of human beings, as they are, because they will not understand something straight forward. So it has to go round and round until they reach a point to understand that it was the play of the Mother that brought them to the shore of wisdom. So for us it is important to see that so much has been done by Paramchaitanya for us. The Mother has done so much for us. Now what are we going to do ourselves to get all these powers that She has given us, to be completely enlightened and developed? What have we done so far? Nothing to be done as such, but to develop a kind of a deep devotion, deep understanding. And that depth is possible, absolutely possible, because now you are on your way to that perfection. So today, in Cabella, is the last puja and I want to tell you, as a Mother, that you all should depend on Paramchaitanya. That’s very important to depend on Paramchaitanya. Also there is a habit of many people to put the blame on others. Like "I got caught up from this person, and got caught up from that person." You are caught up by yourself only! All such ideas are of no use. Face yourself, find out about yourself and you have to perfect yourself, that is so important, because, at this juncture of time, people think that something great is going to happen. I don’t know, 2000 years, according to them, will be something great. But I don’t know, because it is all man-made, all this 2000 year and 3000 year is man-made. But I myself, as predicted by many, that possibly because of your understanding and your wisdom, I’m sure something great may happen in this world and things may be brought to a proper level of understanding, of spirituality, because this is the Last Judgement, and in this Last Judgement, you have to play a very vital role, which I am sure you can do it, if you decide to achieve something for the future. May Good Bless You

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Conference for Doctors, Marina di Pietrasanta, Italy, 2 October 1998. These are the days of a great turmoil and all kinds of problems are cropping ¬up which never happened before: political problem, economic problem, personal problem, family problems. Now also the psychological complications are there and everybody is seeking if there is any solution to this. Physical problems also are there which doctors have to face a lot. And I have also studied medicine, so I know how difficult it is to get through all the exams. Despite that they have not reached to any solutions. But if you believe in God, who is a creator, we have to also believe that He must have given us something to solve these problems. So, I have to just tell you that the time for our transformation, the evolutionary breakthrough has come. As Christ has said, "You seek Me and you'll find." So, when all these problems are cropping up, you want to seek the guidance of the Divine. So My simple message is that you have to seek your Self; you must know yourself. Christ has said, "Know thyself." And for that there is an arrangement within us and if that works out, then you'll be amazed if you become the Spirit, how the life changes, the whole thing changes for you. You see there are those so many lights here, but if they are not connected to the mains, they do not give light. But if you become the self, if you get connected with the Divine, then not only that you give joy to other, but you enjoy yourself. Later on I'll tell them how it works out. Yogi Translator: Wants to go back in the time when You were staying in Gandhi's ashram and You were living with him and what is happening. Shri Mataji: Gandhi was a spiritual personality, no doubt, and he understood Me very well, though I was a seven-years-old girl when we joined him. But he told Me that unless and until we become free we shouldn't talk of spirituality. So, his main life force was spent only on getting India free and then he suddenly died. But he was a very disciplined person, overly disciplined. I mean, I used to always be with him and tell him that "Why are you so disciplined?" He used to make everyone get up at four o'clock in the morning and then go for the worship. And in that place there were lots of snakes also. They've never bitten anyone but there were snakes. So, he said for getting political freedom you have to be very disciplined. And that's how, I mean, he used to make everyone absolutely into regimental force and his process has worked, we got our independence, all right. Now you have to get your freedom, freedom from all the worries that bother you. And also other physical, mental, emotional problems that face you, which is very easy, which is extremely easy, and if you are keen on it, you just get it. (Shri Mataji was addressing the Italian who asked the question about Gandhi) Then I'll tell them how you get it. Yogi Translator: When did You realize that You have it, such tremendous spiritual powers? Shri Mataji: Just from very childhood. As you realize you are a human being, I too realized from My birth only that I have these powers within Me Yogi Translator: Did You start from childhood to cure people and treat them? Shri Mataji: No, no I didn't do that because My father said that "You better not talk about it now. Nobody will understand, you see? But You find out a way and method by which You can give realization en mass. Because, if You give it to one person, the situation will be the same as that of many saints. So, better to give it to thousands of people." And that's what I was studying human beings, what are their problems are. And I one day in 1970, the fifth of May, I opened the last centre. The first disciple I should say, was a lady, only one. But now, I don't know how many - thousands. Yogi Translator: When somebody is sitting in front of You, what do You understand about the person sitting in front of You? Shri Mataji: You see a person who is a seeking person is sort of in tune and they just, it's not difficult to give realization. Yogi Translator: What is Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji: All right, Sahaja, saha means with, ja is born. And it is within you is born the right, the birth right, to get your Self-realization. And yoga means the union with the divine power of love. Let them also ask questions, will be good idea. Yogi Translator: How to achieve the Self-realization? Shri Mataji: All right, now what I am going to tell you is not written in the medical science. But it can be connected with the parasympathetic nervous activity. You shouldn't believe Me because I am saying something. But if it is proved, then you should not doubt it, because it is for your benevolence, for the benevolence of your country and for the whole world, for the whole humanity. All right, as you see here in this booklet, you can see clearly this triangular bone placed at the base of the spinal cord. This bone is called as sacrum bone and there is a power in this which is called as Kundalini. Kundal means coils. But the knowledge about this was known long time back. Maybe the Greeks also knew, so they call it a bone which is being of spiritual nature. Now this power lies dormantly in that sacrum bone. And then this bone, this has to, this energy, energy has to move six centres upward. Now these six centres are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and also spiritual being. Yogi Translator: How can a foreigner, a westerner, follow Your teachings and follow the system which need also some concentration and attention and culture? Shri Mataji: Yes, you see because also in the Bible is written that "I'll appear before you, like flames" and these centres look like that. And for the doctors, they should know that we have autonomous nervous system within us which runs our heart, which does all the living work, you see, within us. There are, see it is made of two sympathetic nervous systems and one parasympathetic. According to Sahaja Yoga these sympathetic nervous systems are acting complementarily but opposite direction. For example the left sympathetic acts for emotional actions and the right sympathetic for physical and mental activities. Now this all can be proved. But when we Increase our activity, sympathetics go into actions. Supposing we run very fast, our heart starts beating faster; but what brings it down to normal? Is the parasympathetic. Now, medical science has not reached the parasympathetic area. Through Sahaja Yoga you can reach parasympathetic. That's why I studied medicine, because I knew I have to talk to doctors and we have had so many doctors all over the world, so many. And is accepted in many countries also. We have a very big hospital in Vashi, in New Bombay where lots of people are cured with Sahaja Yoga. For example I'll tell you about one centre. The one centre which is called as Swadishthana is the second centre above this triangular bone. And the first centre is below the Kundalini. Now this second centre we can call it in the medical term , they are called, but on the physical side, this centre is known as aortic plexus which I learned as aortic, I don't know what the modern name is. This centre is connected to the third centre. Third centre which is the solar plexus and it moves round as it is shown as well as in one direction or in the other direction. Now when we are too much working, worrying, thinking, we are futuristic, then this centre has to go to the right side. But when it is moving to the right side his energy can be exhausted. It supplies energy to the liver, pancreas and also two kidneys and spleen and the lower parts of intestines. Now when a person is very futuristic, then he gets lots of problems. One thing that I state now is not written in medical science, that the brain which is exhausting it[s energy all the time, from where does it get the energy? The grey matter you see is exhausted all the time. So from where does it get the energy? So this is the centre which gives energy to the brain. But when we are too futuristic, worrying type, we are very much, all the time working out then this energy of this centre only goes to the brain. And all other organs do not get the energy sufficient. Firstly the liver, liver has the function to take out the heat which is the poison in the body and to put it in the blood circulation. But it gets very, lots of [shunt] energy, so the heat is accumulated in the liver. Such person can be very hot tempered, irritable, very fast. So what happens that when this heat goes upward it first of all attacks also the heart. It also attacks the lungs and such a person can get asthma. In Sahaja Yoga asthma is absolutely curable. In young age if young people drink and play tennis and hard things like that, then what happens? they get a massive heart attack and fatal. And they die very young. But for other people it may stay on for a while, but it goes on acting on the heart. But, that can go to pancreas and one can get what you call a diabetes. Then this heat can pass to spleen and then you get a disease called blood cancer. Then it goes to the kidneys, the heat, heat goes to the kidneys and it coagulates the kidney and you can not pass urine. Then you go for dialysis and you become bankrupt and then die. Also it can give terrible constipation and also with that constipation you might get piles and things like that, complications like that. Now if it doesn't work out that way, then this heat can pass also to brain and then one gets paralysis on the right side. So we have to have a balance. We should be in the centre. This is the only one centre I am telling you but, I'll tell you about the cancer now. Now cancer is caused I'll say by putting, you can see like this [Shri Mataji joins Her Hands together and makes a circle with Her thumb and index fingers of both hands, also joined together to make one circle] the centre one, the centre one is the one through which the parasympathetic acts. Mostly on the left side these people are depressed and always crying, weeping, feeling guilty, all kinds of psychological complications, may act on the left. And once they got active too much, with any shock or with anything it might break this position [She separates Her Hands from the centre where she had made circle with thumb and index finger, keeping only the tips of her fingers still touching]. Now if that is broken then what happens that there is no connection with the mains. And there is a kind of virus that enters into that area and it goes into cells and starts making them malignant, means they are their own, not connected. So that you see a cell can go on growing, eating other cells like a egoistical man overpowering everything. Now for example something develops here [Shri Mataji points to Her cheek], it can stop the nose, it can stop the eyes, everything can be stopped. Now when the Kundalini rises what she does, she passes through all these centres. Like this, she passes into these and sort of pierce through all of them. And it goes and pierce through this seventh centre, fontanel bone area. So that is the actualization, say, of baptism. You really get baptism. And then you get connected with this all-pervading subtle power, the all-pervading divine power of love. [Some people talk in Italian] Shri Mataji: Have they no questions? Yogi Translator: Where are the different chakras on the hands? Shri Mataji: The left side is emotional side, the right side is the physical and the mental side. So this is the Mooladhara. Then the Swadishthana is these two. [showing Her two thumbs], left and right. So the right Swadishthana is as I told you is for futuristic, fast life and the left is for people who are suffering emotionally. The third one is the Nabhi chakra. Then the higher to that is the Heart charka, Centre Heart actually. Then the third one is this Vishuddhi chakra. Now if you feel guilty this chakra catches [Shri Mataji shows her left index finger]. If you are aggressive in your talks and all that, then this chakra [showing Her right Index finger]. Then comes this Agnya chakra [showing Her Bindi], this one [showing Her left ring finger] is very important, if you do not forgive then it catches [indicating Her Bindi]. Then comes the last, is the Sahasrara, it's in the limbic area. Limbic area is like this and it opens like a lotus that is called as Sahasrara, there are one thousand petals. [Another question from the audience] Desire, pure desire, let's have a pure desire to get it. Yogi Translator: She likes the to thank you because she saw on Your book that You say a very important thing: "forgive everybody and forgive yourself" Shri Mataji: That's the main thing, very important, you have to forgive yourself because if you don't forgive, you develop this centre [showing the left Vishuddhi on Her left collar bone] and if you don't forgive others then this centre goes into jeopardy. [She points to Her bindi] Yogi Translator: We should forgive at any cost because by not forgiving is a self-destruction. Shri Mataji]: You see whether you forgive or don't forgive, actually you don't do anything. But if you don't forgive then you torture yourself at the hands of others and the one who has troubled you is enjoying nicely. Yogi Translator: What's the meaning of meditation and how we do meditation? Shri Mataji: First you get your realization, that's very important and then meditation is very simple. We have many people here in Tuscany who can tell you how to meditate. Yogi Translator: Can we perform an experience? Shri Mataji: Without experience you should not believe, as written in the bible is the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost. So what is that I have to tell you in short, I must tell you that there is a all-pervading power of divine love. We have never felt it before. Look at these flowers, who makes these beautiful flowers? Who runs your heart? If you ask a doctor, he again say the auto-nervous. But again I'll say who is the auto? All this is done, all these living processes are done by this all power, the power of divine love. It is love, it is love, it is no other power. It is pure love. All right, so we have to just feel it. Can I request you to take out your shoes because this one [?] for a while. This Mother Earth is very, very kind and she takes up all our problems. Now you have to just put your both the hands like this, a little higher, with the fingers opened, with the fingers opened, opened, not like this, opened, higher, higher, put up higher, not very high but still you may close your eyes. Now please put your right hand towards Me and you have to just say: "Mother Give me my realization." Now also you have to say that "I forgive everyone" three times. Now just put your left hand on the top of your head and right hand towards Me and see for yourself if you are feeling the cool breeze on top of your head, maybe hot, maybe hot, above. Now place the left hand towards Me and the right hand you feel if there is a cool breeze coming out of head or maybe the hot. Now again put the right hand towards Me and the left hand left hand above. Now open your eyes and please put both your hands towards Me. All those who have felt cool breeze on their palms or on their fingers or on top of their fontanel bone area, could be also hot. [She said while working on a lady who couldn't feel the cool breeze]: Just forgive, forgive everyone, just say, just say, now see, forgive, forgive, just forgive, otherwise you will be in trouble. [While the English yogi was working on her from her back]: Strong. [Shri Mataji working on a man]: You are a doctor? Man: Economical science. Shri Mataji: Ah! We are giving you a balance, forgive everyone, everyone, are you feeling? No? May be the Vishuddhi, problems of asthma? [Shri Mataji talking to the conference organizers]: So many people there are, but we have some...they have to organize something as a centre, if they permit here. Yogi: Tomorrow there will be cardiologist coming from all over Italy. Shri Mataji: All right, ya, that's great. Lady Translator: He said On Sunday, twelve o'clock, he is organizing the meeting with the mayor and for some people who work with the mayor. Shri Mataji: Very kind of you, but how was the lecture for the doctors specially? Yogi Translator: Beautiful especially directed to doctors. Lady Translator: He said he apologize but tomorrow he has to go for this television in Milan. Shri Mataji: I know, best of luck. Lady Translator: Tomorrow even if he will come late from Milan, he will come to say hello. Shri Mataji: Oh, Thank you, Thank you. Translator: And Sunday morning he will be here with you. Shri Mataji: Because of you so many people have been helped, very creditable to you, thank you very much. [Shri Mataji talking to a baby]: Hello, you are singing for Me? How they know Me!!

Conference for Doctors, Marina di Pietrasanta, Italy, 2 October 1998. These are the days of a great turmoil and all kinds of problems are cropping ¬up which never happened before: political problem, economic problem, personal problem, family problems. Now also the psychological complications are there and everybody is seeking if there is any solution to this. Physical problems also are there which doctors have to face a lot. And I have also studied medicine, so I know how difficult it is to get through all the exams. Despite that they have not reached to any solutions. But if you believe in God, who is a creator, we have to also believe that He must have given us something to solve these problems. So, I have to just tell you that the time for our transformation, the evolutionary breakthrough has come. As Christ has said, "You seek Me and you'll find." So, when all these problems are cropping up, you want to seek the guidance of the Divine. So My simple message is that you have to seek your Self; you must know yourself. Christ has said, "Know thyself." And for that there is an arrangement within us and if that works out, then you'll be amazed if you become the Spirit, how the life changes, the whole thing changes for you. You see there are those so many lights here, but if they are not connected to the mains, they do not give light. But if you become the self, if you get connected with the Divine, then not only that you give joy to other, but you enjoy yourself. Later on I'll tell them how it works out. Yogi Translator: Wants to go back in the time when You were staying in Gandhi's ashram and You were living with him and what is happening. Shri Mataji: Gandhi was a spiritual personality, no doubt, and he understood Me very well, though I was a seven-years-old girl when we joined him. But he told Me that unless and until we become free we shouldn't talk of spirituality. So, his main life force was spent only on getting India free and then he suddenly died. But he was a very disciplined person, overly disciplined. I mean, I used to always be with him and tell him that "Why are you so disciplined?" He used to make everyone get up at four o'clock in the morning and then go for the worship. And in that place there were lots of snakes also. They've never bitten anyone but there were snakes. So, he said for getting political freedom you have to be very disciplined. And that's how, I mean, he used to make everyone absolutely into regimental force and his process has worked, we got our independence, all right. Now you have to get your freedom, freedom from all the worries that bother you. And also other physical, mental, emotional problems that face you, which is very easy, which is extremely easy, and if you are keen on it, you just get it. (Shri Mataji was addressing the Italian who asked the question about Gandhi) Then I'll tell them how you get it. Yogi Translator: When did You realize that You have it, such tremendous spiritual powers? Shri Mataji: Just from very childhood. As you realize you are a human being, I too realized from My birth only that I have these powers within Me Yogi Translator: Did You start from childhood to cure people and treat them? Shri Mataji: No, no I didn't do that because My father said that "You better not talk about it now. Nobody will understand, you see? But You find out a way and method by which You can give realization en mass. Because, if You give it to one person, the situation will be the same as that of many saints. So, better to give it to thousands of people." And that's what I was studying human beings, what are their problems are. And I one day in 1970, the fifth of May, I opened the last centre. The first disciple I should say, was a lady, only one. But now, I don't know how many - thousands. Yogi Translator: When somebody is sitting in front of You, what do You understand about the person sitting in front of You? Shri Mataji: You see a person who is a seeking person is sort of in tune and they just, it's not difficult to give realization. Yogi Translator: What is Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji: All right, Sahaja, saha means with, ja is born. And it is within you is born the right, the birth right, to get your Self-realization. And yoga means the union with the divine power of love. Let them also ask questions, will be good idea. Yogi Translator: How to achieve the Self-realization? Shri Mataji: All right, now what I am going to tell you is not written in the medical science. But it can be connected with the parasympathetic nervous activity. You shouldn't believe Me because I am saying something. But if it is proved, then you should not doubt it, because it is for your benevolence, for the benevolence of your country and for the whole world, for the whole humanity. All right, as you see here in this booklet, you can see clearly this triangular bone placed at the base of the spinal cord. This bone is called as sacrum bone and there is a power in this which is called as Kundalini. Kundal means coils. But the knowledge about this was known long time back. Maybe the Greeks also knew, so they call it a bone which is being of spiritual nature. Now this power lies dormantly in that sacrum bone. And then this bone, this has to, this energy, energy has to move six centres upward. Now these six centres are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and also spiritual being. Yogi Translator: How can a foreigner, a westerner, follow Your teachings and follow the system which need also some concentration and attention and culture? Shri Mataji: Yes, you see because also in the Bible is written that "I'll appear before you, like flames" and these centres look like that. And for the doctors, they should know that we have autonomous nervous system within us which runs our heart, which does all the living work, you see, within us. There are, see it is made of two sympathetic nervous systems and one parasympathetic. According to Sahaja Yoga these sympathetic nervous systems are acting complementarily but opposite direction. For example the left sympathetic acts for emotional actions and the right sympathetic for physical and mental activities. Now this all can be proved. But when we Increase our activity, sympathetics go into actions. Supposing we run very fast, our heart starts beating faster; but what brings it down to normal? Is the parasympathetic. Now, medical science has not reached the parasympathetic area. Through Sahaja Yoga you can reach parasympathetic. That's why I studied medicine, because I knew I have to talk to doctors and we have had so many doctors all over the world, so many. And is accepted in many countries also. We have a very big hospital in Vashi, in New Bombay where lots of people are cured with Sahaja Yoga. For example I'll tell you about one centre. The one centre which is called as Swadishthana is the second centre above this triangular bone. And the first centre is below the Kundalini. Now this second centre we can call it in the medical term , they are called, but on the physical side, this centre is known as aortic plexus which I learned as aortic, I don't know what the modern name is. This centre is connected to the third centre. Third centre which is the solar plexus and it moves round as it is shown as well as in one direction or in the other direction. Now when we are too much working, worrying, thinking, we are futuristic, then this centre has to go to the right side. But when it is moving to the right side his energy can be exhausted. It supplies energy to the liver, pancreas and also two kidneys and spleen and the lower parts of intestines. Now when a person is very futuristic, then he gets lots of problems. One thing that I state now is not written in medical science, that the brain which is exhausting it[s energy all the time, from where does it get the energy? The grey matter you see is exhausted all the time. So from where does it get the energy? So this is the centre which gives energy to the brain. But when we are too futuristic, worrying type, we are very much, all the time working out then this energy of this centre only goes to the brain. And all other organs do not get the energy sufficient. Firstly the liver, liver has the function to take out the heat which is the poison in the body and to put it in the blood circulation. But it gets very, lots of [shunt] energy, so the heat is accumulated in the liver. Such person can be very hot tempered, irritable, very fast. So what happens that when this heat goes upward it first of all attacks also the heart. It also attacks the lungs and such a person can get asthma. In Sahaja Yoga asthma is absolutely curable. In young age if young people drink and play tennis and hard things like that, then what happens? they get a massive heart attack and fatal. And they die very young. But for other people it may stay on for a while, but it goes on acting on the heart. But, that can go to pancreas and one can get what you call a diabetes. Then this heat can pass to spleen and then you get a disease called blood cancer. Then it goes to the kidneys, the heat, heat goes to the kidneys and it coagulates the kidney and you can not pass urine. Then you go for dialysis and you become bankrupt and then die. Also it can give terrible constipation and also with that constipation you might get piles and things like that, complications like that. Now if it doesn't work out that way, then this heat can pass also to brain and then one gets paralysis on the right side. So we have to have a balance. We should be in the centre. This is the only one centre I am telling you but, I'll tell you about the cancer now. Now cancer is caused I'll say by putting, you can see like this [Shri Mataji joins Her Hands together and makes a circle with Her thumb and index fingers of both hands, also joined together to make one circle] the centre one, the centre one is the one through which the parasympathetic acts. Mostly on the left side these people are depressed and always crying, weeping, feeling guilty, all kinds of psychological complications, may act on the left. And once they got active too much, with any shock or with anything it might break this position [She separates Her Hands from the centre where she had made circle with thumb and index finger, keeping only the tips of her fingers still touching]. Now if that is broken then what happens that there is no connection with the mains. And there is a kind of virus that enters into that area and it goes into cells and starts making them malignant, means they are their own, not connected. So that you see a cell can go on growing, eating other cells like a egoistical man overpowering everything. Now for example something develops here [Shri Mataji points to Her cheek], it can stop the nose, it can stop the eyes, everything can be stopped. Now when the Kundalini rises what she does, she passes through all these centres. Like this, she passes into these and sort of pierce through all of them. And it goes and pierce through this seventh centre, fontanel bone area. So that is the actualization, say, of baptism. You really get baptism. And then you get connected with this all-pervading subtle power, the all-pervading divine power of love. [Some people talk in Italian] Shri Mataji: Have they no questions? Yogi Translator: Where are the different chakras on the hands? Shri Mataji: The left side is emotional side, the right side is the physical and the mental side. So this is the Mooladhara. Then the Swadishthana is these two. [showing Her two thumbs], left and right. So the right Swadishthana is as I told you is for futuristic, fast life and the left is for people who are suffering emotionally. The third one is the Nabhi chakra. Then the higher to that is the Heart charka, Centre Heart actually. Then the third one is this Vishuddhi chakra. Now if you feel guilty this chakra catches [Shri Mataji shows her left index finger]. If you are aggressive in your talks and all that, then this chakra [showing Her right Index finger]. Then comes this Agnya chakra [showing Her Bindi], this one [showing Her left ring finger] is very important, if you do not forgive then it catches [indicating Her Bindi]. Then comes the last, is the Sahasrara, it's in the limbic area. Limbic area is like this and it opens like a lotus that is called as Sahasrara, there are one thousand petals. [Another question from the audience] Desire, pure desire, let's have a pure desire to get it. Yogi Translator: She likes the to thank you because she saw on Your book that You say a very important thing: "forgive everybody and forgive yourself" Shri Mataji: That's the main thing, very important, you have to forgive yourself because if you don't forgive, you develop this centre [showing the left Vishuddhi on Her left collar bone] and if you don't forgive others then this centre goes into jeopardy. [She points to Her bindi] Yogi Translator: We should forgive at any cost because by not forgiving is a self-destruction. Shri Mataji]: You see whether you forgive or don't forgive, actually you don't do anything. But if you don't forgive then you torture yourself at the hands of others and the one who has troubled you is enjoying nicely. Yogi Translator: What's the meaning of meditation and how we do meditation? Shri Mataji: First you get your realization, that's very important and then meditation is very simple. We have many people here in Tuscany who can tell you how to meditate. Yogi Translator: Can we perform an experience? Shri Mataji: Without experience you should not believe, as written in the bible is the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost. So what is that I have to tell you in short, I must tell you that there is a all-pervading power of divine love. We have never felt it before. Look at these flowers, who makes these beautiful flowers? Who runs your heart? If you ask a doctor, he again say the auto-nervous. But again I'll say who is the auto? All this is done, all these living processes are done by this all power, the power of divine love. It is love, it is love, it is no other power. It is pure love. All right, so we have to just feel it. Can I request you to take out your shoes because this one [?] for a while. This Mother Earth is very, very kind and she takes up all our problems. Now you have to just put your both the hands like this, a little higher, with the fingers opened, with the fingers opened, opened, not like this, opened, higher, higher, put up higher, not very high but still you may close your eyes. Now please put your right hand towards Me and you have to just say: "Mother Give me my realization." Now also you have to say that "I forgive everyone" three times. Now just put your left hand on the top of your head and right hand towards Me and see for yourself if you are feeling the cool breeze on top of your head, maybe hot, maybe hot, above. Now place the left hand towards Me and the right hand you feel if there is a cool breeze coming out of head or maybe the hot. Now again put the right hand towards Me and the left hand left hand above. Now open your eyes and please put both your hands towards Me. All those who have felt cool breeze on their palms or on their fingers or on top of their fontanel bone area, could be also hot. [She said while working on a lady who couldn't feel the cool breeze]: Just forgive, forgive everyone, just say, just say, now see, forgive, forgive, just forgive, otherwise you will be in trouble. [While the English yogi was working on her from her back]: Strong. [Shri Mataji working on a man]: You are a doctor? Man: Economical science. Shri Mataji: Ah! We are giving you a balance, forgive everyone, everyone, are you feeling? No? May be the Vishuddhi, problems of asthma? [Shri Mataji talking to the conference organizers]: So many people there are, but we have some...they have to organize something as a centre, if they permit here. Yogi: Tomorrow there will be cardiologist coming from all over Italy. Shri Mataji: All right, ya, that's great. Lady Translator: He said On Sunday, twelve o'clock, he is organizing the meeting with the mayor and for some people who work with the mayor. Shri Mataji: Very kind of you, but how was the lecture for the doctors specially? Yogi Translator: Beautiful especially directed to doctors. Lady Translator: He said he apologize but tomorrow he has to go for this television in Milan. Shri Mataji: I know, best of luck. Lady Translator: Tomorrow even if he will come late from Milan, he will come to say hello. Shri Mataji: Oh, Thank you, Thank you. Translator: And Sunday morning he will be here with you. Shri Mataji: Because of you so many people have been helped, very creditable to you, thank you very much. [Shri Mataji talking to a baby]: Hello, you are singing for Me? How they know Me!!

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Evening Talk before Diwali. Nova Ligure (Italy), 24 October 1998 So I wish you all a very happy Diwali, and a very prosperous New Year. The whole evening was so full of joy, peace that I don't know how to describe. The whole event was worked out so beautifully by the French. Especially people from South Africa, from Benin, from Ivory Coast, from Kenya, and also many others who have come from various countries, have shown their talent, their joy, their happiness. The best part of it is that I've found them to be very well equipped with the names of all the deities and how to praise them. Very surprising, in this short time, how Sahaja Yoga has spread to all these countries. Regarding the programme, that was presented by the French, it's remarkable I must say. Last year they had one very good drama on Jnanadeva; and this year this other one was really very very remarkable. A long time back I told them that Joan of Arc was a special, blessed person by the divine; and she should be worshipped as a goddess or as a deity, which has looked after France and its independence. But then the people, every year I repeated, but they didn't make anything on her. So I was very happy to see Joan of Arc represented here. Actually in my own life, I have seen, at a very young age of fourteen years and eighteen years, I was fighting for the independence of our country. And my professor, my principle of the college, told me later on that "I knew that you are the Shakti, because how could you, all alone, fight these people?" So all this aggressiveness is now quite visible, and people can see how they have been aggressed. Now the French aggressed these people, these countries. Because of their aggression also they have been able to come to Sahaja Yoga, in a way, because then the French took interest in these people, and now, some of them are Moslems, and of different religions and they have taken to Sahaja Yoga; it's a very very remarkable thing to happen. They are full of rhythm; rhythm is in their body. God has given everybody something. Now, if some people have got a fair skin, I don't think God thinks much about that. But if the people have a dark skin, see their rhythm, the sense of rhythm, and the way they were dancing to the tune. Not only, but with what speed they were dancing. I must congratulate you all for making such a nice play out of Joan of Arc; and all the actors, especially the lady who acted as Joan of Arc, was remarkably good. I really must say that I never expected Sahaja Yogis to come out with such a nice drama on Joan of Arc. Practically, she was forgotten, because lastly she was burned. So many asked me, "If she was the blessed one and looked upon by the goddess, then why was she burned?" Why was she destroyed? So all of them had to face (all the saints had to face) the negativity, and even if they died, doesn't matter, they are eternal. So it's not a very sad thing to think that all the people who are saintly have to suffer. They can suffer because they can afford to suffer; they have a power to suffer. That's why everybody who is a saint, in itself, is so rewarding to the whole world; you all have become Sahaja Yogis now. Whether you are from South Africa or from France or from England or from anywhere. So there should be no idea of domination on anyone, or taking charge of anyone. Once you understand that you are all brothers and sisters; and that you are under one flag of Sahaja Yoga. You should have no idea of becoming individualistic or trying to show that you are something better than the others. To my eye, to my own vision, you are all just the same. Whether you are well educated or if you are not educated, whether you are dark or you are white or whatever may be the colour. To my eyes you are just the same. Look at the mother earth, as you have seen, anybody who wants to see the mother earth can learn that she doesn't differentiate. She looks after everyone with the same love and affection. So I think, if there is even a little in your minds left out of these dominating areas and dominating nature that you had, please try to get rid of it and see to it that you become a humble person. Without humility, you cannot achieve divine heights, it's very important to be humble. And at the right time then you will be surprised that all this humility is paid for. So tomorrow we are going to have the puja. It's a very good puja of Shri Laxmi, it will be. I was thinking because it's quite a warm place, we can have it about six o'clock tomorrow. And I hope you all will come and attend the puja and get the blessings of Shri Laxmi. It's very necessary, I must tell you, that I allow you all to have these pujas of all these deities, but you must know its a very sensitive area, where you have to be auspicious, you have to be sensible. You cannot just come to puja without understanding the significance of the whole thing. Now for this Laxmi puja also, there's a warning. If you are coming with a closed mind or with a heart, which is closed, which has no generosity in it, and which has all funny ideas in the head; all such people won't be blessed. On the contrary, they will get a kind of the other side of the Laxmi called A-laxmi. And that's why one has to be very careful that when you come tomorrow for puja, come with an open heart, with a love in your heart and there is proper reception of Laxmi's blessings. May God bless you all. Thank you very much for the nice entertainment and for bringing out all the talents of the world. I must say I'm sorry for the Portuguese because I was going to Portugal, and I just couldn't do it because of my bad health. I don't think I have a bad health, but whatever it is. I just couldn't do it this time, but next year I'm sure we'll be able to manage. May God bless you. Thank you very much, thank you. 21 Invocations in honour to Shri Joan of Arc (offered during Navaratri Puja 2012 in Cabella, in the occasion of 600th anniversary of Joan of Arc's birth, by organizing Countries- Africa, Cyprus, France, Greece, Israel and UK) Salutations to the Virgin Goddess, the divine protectress of France. Salutations to the pure youthful Virgin who led Her country to victory from the age of seventeen. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is the master of the art of war. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is ever pure and steadfast of purpose. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who acts with lion-like courage. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess whose innocence and purity awaken the purity of others. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is loved and worshipped by the innocent. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who leads the innocent and inspires them to victory. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who works tirelessly to establish the Kingdom of Heaven within human beings. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is one with the Voice of God. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who only knows the Will of God. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who easily overcomes anger, hatred, evil and aggression. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is the embodiment of peace and compassion. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who incarnates again and again to protect Her children. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess whose pure intellect easily outwits those who stand against Her. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess whose sword is the sword of faith. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is attended by Shri Bhairava in the form of the Archangel Michael. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is attended by Shri Hanumana in the form of the Archangel Gabriel. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess whose banner inspires love by radiating the pure love between the Divine Mother Shri Maria-Mahalakshmi and Lord Jesus Christ. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess whose pure heart was untouched by fire, as She is the purity of fire. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who resides in the heart of Shri Mataji. Sākshāt Shrī Ādi Shakti Mātājī Shrī Nirmalā Devyai namo namah

Evening Talk before Diwali. Nova Ligure (Italy), 24 October 1998 So I wish you all a very happy Diwali, and a very prosperous New Year. The whole evening was so full of joy, peace that I don't know how to describe. The whole event was worked out so beautifully by the French. Especially people from South Africa, from Benin, from Ivory Coast, from Kenya, and also many others who have come from various countries, have shown their talent, their joy, their happiness. The best part of it is that I've found them to be very well equipped with the names of all the deities and how to praise them. Very surprising, in this short time, how Sahaja Yoga has spread to all these countries. Regarding the programme, that was presented by the French, it's remarkable I must say. Last year they had one very good drama on Jnanadeva; and this year this other one was really very very remarkable. A long time back I told them that Joan of Arc was a special, blessed person by the divine; and she should be worshipped as a goddess or as a deity, which has looked after France and its independence. But then the people, every year I repeated, but they didn't make anything on her. So I was very happy to see Joan of Arc represented here. Actually in my own life, I have seen, at a very young age of fourteen years and eighteen years, I was fighting for the independence of our country. And my professor, my principle of the college, told me later on that "I knew that you are the Shakti, because how could you, all alone, fight these people?" So all this aggressiveness is now quite visible, and people can see how they have been aggressed. Now the French aggressed these people, these countries. Because of their aggression also they have been able to come to Sahaja Yoga, in a way, because then the French took interest in these people, and now, some of them are Moslems, and of different religions and they have taken to Sahaja Yoga; it's a very very remarkable thing to happen. They are full of rhythm; rhythm is in their body. God has given everybody something. Now, if some people have got a fair skin, I don't think God thinks much about that. But if the people have a dark skin, see their rhythm, the sense of rhythm, and the way they were dancing to the tune. Not only, but with what speed they were dancing. I must congratulate you all for making such a nice play out of Joan of Arc; and all the actors, especially the lady who acted as Joan of Arc, was remarkably good. I really must say that I never expected Sahaja Yogis to come out with such a nice drama on Joan of Arc. Practically, she was forgotten, because lastly she was burned. So many asked me, "If she was the blessed one and looked upon by the goddess, then why was she burned?" Why was she destroyed? So all of them had to face (all the saints had to face) the negativity, and even if they died, doesn't matter, they are eternal. So it's not a very sad thing to think that all the people who are saintly have to suffer. They can suffer because they can afford to suffer; they have a power to suffer. That's why everybody who is a saint, in itself, is so rewarding to the whole world; you all have become Sahaja Yogis now. Whether you are from South Africa or from France or from England or from anywhere. So there should be no idea of domination on anyone, or taking charge of anyone. Once you understand that you are all brothers and sisters; and that you are under one flag of Sahaja Yoga. You should have no idea of becoming individualistic or trying to show that you are something better than the others. To my eye, to my own vision, you are all just the same. Whether you are well educated or if you are not educated, whether you are dark or you are white or whatever may be the colour. To my eyes you are just the same. Look at the mother earth, as you have seen, anybody who wants to see the mother earth can learn that she doesn't differentiate. She looks after everyone with the same love and affection. So I think, if there is even a little in your minds left out of these dominating areas and dominating nature that you had, please try to get rid of it and see to it that you become a humble person. Without humility, you cannot achieve divine heights, it's very important to be humble. And at the right time then you will be surprised that all this humility is paid for. So tomorrow we are going to have the puja. It's a very good puja of Shri Laxmi, it will be. I was thinking because it's quite a warm place, we can have it about six o'clock tomorrow. And I hope you all will come and attend the puja and get the blessings of Shri Laxmi. It's very necessary, I must tell you, that I allow you all to have these pujas of all these deities, but you must know its a very sensitive area, where you have to be auspicious, you have to be sensible. You cannot just come to puja without understanding the significance of the whole thing. Now for this Laxmi puja also, there's a warning. If you are coming with a closed mind or with a heart, which is closed, which has no generosity in it, and which has all funny ideas in the head; all such people won't be blessed. On the contrary, they will get a kind of the other side of the Laxmi called A-laxmi. And that's why one has to be very careful that when you come tomorrow for puja, come with an open heart, with a love in your heart and there is proper reception of Laxmi's blessings. May God bless you all. Thank you very much for the nice entertainment and for bringing out all the talents of the world. I must say I'm sorry for the Portuguese because I was going to Portugal, and I just couldn't do it because of my bad health. I don't think I have a bad health, but whatever it is. I just couldn't do it this time, but next year I'm sure we'll be able to manage. May God bless you. Thank you very much, thank you. 21 Invocations in honour to Shri Joan of Arc (offered during Navaratri Puja 2012 in Cabella, in the occasion of 600th anniversary of Joan of Arc's birth, by organizing Countries- Africa, Cyprus, France, Greece, Israel and UK) Salutations to the Virgin Goddess, the divine protectress of France. Salutations to the pure youthful Virgin who led Her country to victory from the age of seventeen. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is the master of the art of war. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is ever pure and steadfast of purpose. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who acts with lion-like courage. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess whose innocence and purity awaken the purity of others. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is loved and worshipped by the innocent. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who leads the innocent and inspires them to victory. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who works tirelessly to establish the Kingdom of Heaven within human beings. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is one with the Voice of God. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who only knows the Will of God. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who easily overcomes anger, hatred, evil and aggression. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is the embodiment of peace and compassion. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who incarnates again and again to protect Her children. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess whose pure intellect easily outwits those who stand against Her. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess whose sword is the sword of faith. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is attended by Shri Bhairava in the form of the Archangel Michael. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who is attended by Shri Hanumana in the form of the Archangel Gabriel. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess whose banner inspires love by radiating the pure love between the Divine Mother Shri Maria-Mahalakshmi and Lord Jesus Christ. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess whose pure heart was untouched by fire, as She is the purity of fire. Salutations to the Virgin Goddess who resides in the heart of Shri Mataji. Sākshāt Shrī Ādi Shakti Mātājī Shrī Nirmalā Devyai namo namah

10/25/1998

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Diwali Puja: Expression of Love

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Diwali Puja, Novi Ligure, Italy, October 25th, 1998 I am overjoyed really today to see you all here to celebrate the Diwali Puja. We were to be in Portugal but it was not so - so we are here. Diwali Puja is a very small puja but extremely significant. Firstly in Diwali, the first day they buy something for the family. You can - maybe some cooking utensil could be, an ornament for the wife or something like that. Because that is the day of housewife. And that day is to be celebrated as the housewife’s, I should say, homage to her. As a result you know in India even now housewives are very much respected. Actually they are respected all over. You will be amazed that even in the protocol of the government receptions anywhere the wife is very important. And where she is sitting, what is her position is very important. Even today in the most modern and advanced countries also they have a special respect for the housewife. The housewife may not be educated, she may be a very simple woman, she may not be very modern. There was an experience for Me: in London we had a program where we all were invited, and the head of the delegation, his wife was missing. So they asked Me, “Where is she?" Because there is a seat for her, she has to sit there. I said, “I don’t know, I didn’t see her. She must be somewhere here.” So just before starting I went to the washing room and I was surprised she was sitting in the waiting room there. I said, “What are you doing here? They are all waiting for you outside.” So she said, “They asked me to sit here.” So I went out and I told them “Now she is sitting there. Why… why don’t you call her to sit in her seat?” “Is she the wife?” I said, “Yes, of course, she is the wife.” “We thought she was some secretary.” I said, “What made you think?” This lady had, you see, very modern ideas - wearing a very modern slick dress and all that and and everybody thought this lady must be the secretary at the most. So they made her sit in the waiting room. You see - So it is expected of a housewife to be decently dressed, honorably dressed and not to dress up like a secretary or somebody who is just in the office. Because she is regarded as the highest - whether you like it or not. But she had permed her hair and she has been to a very expensive place for all decorations and everything. And poor thing, when she arrived they put her in the waiting room near the bathroom. That’s what it is. So for a housewife, she is the dignity of the household. Not only that, but she is responsible for the complete culture of that country, complete culture of that country. They represent the culture. Like in India nowadays they have started in the films showing all kinds of funny, funny dresses. But I haven’t seen any housewife wearing that. I haven’t seen anybody. It’s not in reality, it’s only in the film, because the society is so strong and the housewife is supposed to be a decent person. She has to be decent, she has to be very dignified and she has to behave in a dignified manner. On the contrary I would say, we had a prime minister called Lal Bahadur Shastri. His wife was absolutely uneducated because Shastriji went to jail and she couldn’t take her education - very simple, ordinary woman. And she went to France. That time there was this Mr. de Gaulle, he was the president. And his wife was another very simple woman. So Shastriji told her that “You are not to cry when you are leaving Mrs. de Gaulle, now you’ve become great friends.” God knows she didn’t know French and she didn’t know Hindi, but somehow both of them became great friends, on the level of housewives. And when he warned her not to cry, what happened that they started crying when they had to leave. So Shastriji said, “I told you not to cry." She said, “It is she, this French lady started crying. What can I do? I had to cry with her.” So you see, it’s a kind of a great collectivity of housewives that has to work out. They have common problems, they have to face their children, they have to look after the household, everything – I mean there are so many common problems with the housewives. And the housewife also knows all little, little things. You see, men at least in India don’t know much because they live in the air, I think. So the women have more sense in this respect, for small, small things they are quite aware. It’s very interesting sometimes, the men commit mistakes of such a great humor. Because they do not deal with day-to-day life, with all the problems of daily life. On one side the woman, housewife, has to deal with the daily life. On the other side she has to look after her family, her children. Also, poor thing, she is responsible for the society. She has to maintain the society. In a country where women are sensible and are matured, you will be amazed that they become extremely good families, good societies and good children. That’s why I must say, India is a very good country of very good society. This is come out of the housewives, the Gruha Lakshmis of the house, who have done all the work that is important as far as the culture is concerned. This kind of thing is very much in India and with that, what you find that the people respect, respect the housewives. So respecting the housewife is the most important thing in our Sahaj culture. But that doesn’t mean that the women should try to dominate and trouble and fight with the husbands. But it means a very important position in the society, of a housewife. She is treated as a something a, like a devi only. But she too has to be a devi. If you treat her like a doormat, then children will never respect her. If you don’t pay proper respect to her, the children won’t respect the mother and there will be no impact of the mother on the children. As a result the children get wayward, and in the societies or in the countries where the mother is not respected, you will find the children become extremely dominating, hot-tempered and horribly uncollective. So it’s very important that on this day we call it Dhanteras - the thirteenth day - you have to buy something for your wife, and you have to give her something as a present. At least you should buy a little pot or something that can be used in the kitchen to show your respect to her. In the families where mother is not respected children become extremely troublesome and the whole, their family also suffers - wherever they are married, whatever happens to them. Men have to realize, it is their mistake that they have never respected their wife as they should have. In the presence of the children if they shout, in the presence of the children if they don’t show any respect, the children can never respect the mother. It is something, a criminal thing to do to women who are in the household doing all the work for you, looking after you, your family, not demanding anything. Only if you want to understand how they can be troublesome, is see them in the politics. When they go in the politics they put all men upside-down. And one woman can put all of them in their proper senses. Because their field is their house, their family. If they are not respected in the family, they get out of the family and behave in such manner that you can’t imagine. Though she has to bear a lot, she has to suffer a lot, but in the family she must be respected. That’s a very, very important message of Gruha Lakshmi. Then the second day is the one where this horrible rakshasa called as Narakasura was killed. Always all killing is done with the power of the Shakti. This Narakasura was the fellow who had tortured so many people and had done lots of cunning stuff. He was a very treacherous, cunning man and it was impossible to kill him. But then somehow or other, with the advent of a special power that this Narakasura was killed. That was the another day, fourth day, where Narakasura was killed. They say that when he was killed, the door of hell was closed. So people should take their baths early in the morning. But I am of the opinion that day if the door is open, better not take bath. Be in your beds till this fellow is put fully into narak. You should not bother about him. “Naraka” means hell. And from the hell they extracted him and killed him. The last one is the best, where they have the meeting of Shri Rama and His brother Bharat. Shri Rama went to jail, obeying His father. And for fourteen years He was – not a jail but in a, we could say, He went in the forest as a - it was a kind of a jail only, because He was living in the palaces and He was sent in the forest by His father and his daughter-in-law; also I mean it’s His own wife. And also the brother, they went together into great sufferings. And you know the whole story of Ramayana. The child that lived in the palaces had to go in the forest and live in terrible conditions, when He was to be the king. Was too much. But Sita went with Him and She supported Him and ultimately it so happened that Ravana came and took away Sita. But Shri Rama fought Ravana, killed him and brought back His wife. But when they came back to their own capital in Ayodhya, there was a big jubilation and Bharat, His brother - he was very much attached to his brother and he ruled that country with the paduka - they say is the kind of sandalwood chappals they use – of his brother. He put it on the throne and ruled. So that is how the Bharat milan- the meeting of Bharat with Shri Rama- is celebrated, and that was the time He was crowned also as the king. So it is long time back, thousands of years back this thing has happened. That jubilation is very significant that the right king gets His own throne, and He rules. And all the injustice and all kind of atrocities He has gone through has to be completely finished from His life. And that’s why Diwali is important. So the last day they worship the Goddess Lakshmi. Because it is Her blessings that brought forth all these beautiful meetings. And that’s why they worship Her, Lakshmi, as such. But there are nine types of Lakshmis within us, which I think I have told you sometimes back. Now in that Lakshmi Puja is this, that you worship the Lakshmi Herself. It doesn’t mean money, not at all. To worship money is wrong. But what it means that Lakshmi is the money which is with us - or the whatever prosperity with that - should be very carefully spent, because She is very mobile and the money can slip out. On the contrary you should not be at all miserly. Miserly people – Lakshmi is not happy. But if you want to spend, you must spend it in the right way, otherwise the money is spent in the wrong way. Now when the Lakshmi was created - you must be knowing out of the churning of the sea She came out. She had four hands, one hand was to give. She is generous, She gives. Like this She gives, and with one hand She blesses. These are Her two hands. One is to give, and to bless the person.Very important it is, that when you give to somebody something, you forget about it, and you bless that person. Not only you give money, but also you bless that person. The other two hands have got two lotuses of pink color. Pink is the color of love. And a person who has money should have a house which is full of love. Any guest who comes in the house should be respected. He should be treated just like God. In India you have noticed how they think foreigners - “foreigners” means God to them. Here “foreigner” is a bad word, but in India is very respectable. If you are a foreigner means that you are God. How they have looked after you, you know that, in India. This is the reason, this is the basic culture of India that anybody who is a guest - he may be anything - if he is a guest then he is to be treated like God. In the other countries it’s just the other way round, you know. If you are a foreigner then people think it’s not even proper to talk to that person. I don’t know how the mentality is like that. But not in Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja yogis are not like that. They treat the guests very well, I’ve heard. They look after each other and they are beautifully collective. So this is what is the meaning of the lotus, is a house full of love. Like a beetle which has got even thorns, when it comes to the lotus, the lotus open out and the beetle goes inside and sleeps very nicely and comfortably. Even the beetle - undisturbed. That is how one should treat, if you have money. But here what I find in the world now, if you have money you become yourself like a beetle. They’re so full of thorns and horrible ideas, so insulting, and think no end of yourself. It’s just surprising is that money which should give them the form of Lakshmi - Lakshmi Swarupa - they become like devils. And the way they treat other people is even worse than that. So these are the significance of the form of the Goddess. But the best is, She’s just standing on the lotus. That means no pressure on anyone. She exists on Her own - no pressure. She doesn’t put any pressure on anyone, just on Her own She stands and all Her weight and all balanced on Her own dignity. This is the way a Lakshmi should be. And that’s how, if it is, when happens in the countries where people are having now financial crisis and all kinds of crisis, things will improve. People will enjoy. They don’t enjoy their money, nothing. They don’t enjoy. This is just aggressiveness and also funny ideas of having a, something, very expensive things and what you call the designers. Now I think these are designers are anti-Lakshmi, that they have come. Because they are extracting all your money nicely and all your money goes to waste. If not that, then people take to womanizing or to drinking - such wasteful habits. They don’t do anything which we can call as really the blessing of the Lakshmi. So one has to remember that when you want to give something to someone do it with the full heart. Such full heart that it forms that Lakshmi Prasada. You see, that should happen, otherwise what’s the use of giving presents to anyone? You see, they are very funny people, you know who give presents out of a very narrow outlook. But they try to give presents. Like in Japan, if you go, they’ll give you such a big present. You go on opening and opening and opening and opening it, till you come to a point when you’ll get a matchbox. In the matchbox - inside the matchbox, you will take two, you can say, it’s two doll-like things made out of small little those matchsticks. Start looking at them “What this is, why such a big design?” and very surprising. But they are very simple people otherwise, very simple. When we went there, they told us they – wherever we went, you know even in a shop when it was raining they would give us a present. Now I said, “What is this? Why are they giving us a present like this?” So the lady who was translating, she said “They think You are from a royal family.” I said, “What makes them feel we are from a royal family?” “Because You don’t go to hairdresser.” I said, “Really?” “Yes. In Japan, royal family people never go to a hairdresser.” I said, “I didn’t know this, that they don’t go to the hairdresser.” “That’s why they think, You are from the royal family.” Just imagine what ideas people have about hairdressing and all that. But in India or these places a woman must be properly combed - her hair. She shouldn’t look like a hippie going round, you know. Because we have many people who still believe in a kind of a hippieism and they wear their hairdress like that. Now, woman plays a very big part in the society as I told you. Whatever way she wears, whatever where she goes about, also the children pick up much more then from the mother than from the father. Sometimes could be much more from the father also. But actually the, all the refined things are picked up from the mother. So it is more for the ladies to understand how they dress up, how they live. Nowadays – I went to London and I’ve asked one Indian Sahaja yogini “What is the fashion now?” So she said “jipreya” in Marathi. “Jipreya” means if you put your hair like this is. See in India, if we have hair like this the mother will say “Now remove your jipreyas.” Because if you put like that hair your eyes can become squinty. But that’s the fashion to put the hair like this, you see - very much, sometimes on the eyes also. So that’s a jipreya fashion. And this now is quite common I find everybody dignified ladies also, except for Mrs. Thatcher, everybody puts on this kind of a thing. I don’t know how Mrs. Thatcher has escaped it. But anybody who does anything that should not be followed by women. It’s very slavish. Because this is the fashion, that’s why they do it. That’s the fashion, so they do it. It’s absolutely stupid to do that way and to play into the hands of these people who make fashions. Because you are independent. You must stand on your own character. you must stand on your own understanding of things. Instead of ruining your faces you should try to improve them by your dignity, by your understanding. Now it’s more on the women - I am sorry to say - Lakshmi Puja is more on the women that what they have to understand, what they have to be, how they should be. I have always told you that it’s necessary for a woman to be dignified, very much more than the man. Man can be stupid – doesn’t matter, you see, doesn’t matter so much. But women have to be dignified and sensible. And men, as it is, don’t know much as you know that very well. Poor things, you know, they are They are educated only in the universities. But as far as the practical side is concerned, they don’t know anything. So one should not feel bad about it. I mean, it’s very enjoyable to see the way men make mistake and then they go on saying “No, no, I know this, I know that,” and they don’t know anything! So - But man will never say, “I don’t know.” You see, that’s his character. It’s all right. You must know that he doesn’t mean it, because he really doesn’t know anything! Also in art. I don’t think men know much about art, and also their one side is missing is aesthetics. Poor things, they make one type of clothes wear all throughout. Just one type of dresses they will make and that they will make and wear throughout. They don’t have any demand. But women are artistic. And if our Indian women give up wearing saris and take to jeans, where will the villagers go? Because they live with their saris that they make during holidays and things like that. So in India is not possible to introduce all these dresses. In the school maybe, but later on they all give up, because they like saris. So the saris are still on and will be on because it’s so artistic, it’s so beautiful. One sari doesn’t look like another sari. So the idea of beauty and the idea of art much more with the women, not with the men. And so one should see that if men don’t know, doesn’t matter. But you make your houses absolutely artistic. Make it comfortable like the lotus, as I said, that should be such. But some of the ladies can be very much like a Hitler, you know, in the household, very dictating. “This should be like this, that should be like that,” making the life of men absolutely miserable. I have known a person who used to carry a newspaper in his house. So I said, “Why do you carry it all the time?” He said, “Whenever I sit, I put the newspaper first and then I sit.” “Why?” “Because if it is spoilt a little bit my wife will shout at me.” I said, “Why?” “Because she doesn’t like anything to be spoilt. So she’s so particular. I carry a newspaper always with me - wherever I have to sit I put the newspaper." I said, “It’s too much.” He said, “You will also have to do that, I tell You.” So very particular about the whole house that it’s impossible to live in that house. It’s even worse than a hospital. So some women can be very particular about that and very methodical, could be. But normally women should be very loving and extremely accommodating, and also being friendly with all the family members, with everyone. It’s very important that I’ve a family so big. We have a very large family, so many brothers and sisters and everybody one better than the other. It is so remarkable that everybody has a different type of a perfume, I think, or a kind of a fragrance that shows an individual personality in them. Despite that they are all so nice and so good, so accommodating and so much enjoying, that it’s remarkable how people live together. Specially in Russia I found the women are very adaptable and very humorous. And they were making fun of everything and enjoying life. Very surprising, we had taken presents for them. But we had taken for about two thousand people, but there were sixteen thousand people. So how could we give these presents? So the women took out their chains and they said, “All right, we’ll give it to men, all right. We’ll give them our ear-tops, all right,” and they were making fun of men, who were feeling bad that they couldn’t get anything. Such fun, you know, such understanding. Because they are not so money-oriented I think and they are very spiritual-minded. So a spiritual woman wouldn’t bother about other things like this and will keep a dignity of her own and will show by her every gesture that she is spiritual. This is something so sweet, you know. As I was telling you, on one side sometimes you feel a little different, say, I said it about Japan. But in the same Japan when I went there, I liked their tiles very much. So they were building up something, I liked the design of their tiles. So I said, “Can I take one from here?” “No, no, doesn’t matter. We’ll send it to Your ship.” And on the ship a big load of those tiles arrived. And the captain asked Me, “Now what are we to do?” I said, “How did you get it?” He said, “They brought it to You.” All kinds of varieties of those tiles, can you imagine? So on one side it is a way of expression, on the other side is different. So one should understand also. When somebody gives you something you should understand what is the significance of that, and not to feel bad about it. The significance of that could be very much great, you may not understand. So better to ask, why they have given you these things. That is what is, what we call auspiciousness, one of the great qualities of the Lakshmi is, that it should be auspicious. Whatever you give should be auspicious. Like sometimes I have seen little children out of mischief will bring a lizard and try to give you. I mean, it’s very inauspicious to do that. But they are not told that it’s inauspicious, so they are doing like that. They have to be told it’s not auspicious, it will not please the Goddess. So that has to be understood very well that you should not try to insult the Lakshmi by giving something which is wrong. If you don’t know, you should find out and do it properly. In this way this is the Diwali thing. But the greatest message of this is that the kingdom was given to Shri Rama. Shri Rama was the embodiment of justice and fair play. And this was given to Him. In the same way we have to feel that our expression of gratitude, our expression of love should be such that it should be given to a person who is a symbol of such greatness like Shri Ram. It’s a very, very subtle thing one should try to understand. If you don’t want to give, you should not give. But if you want to give, then you must give something which is worth the person to whom you are giving. That is one of the lessons you should have about Shri Rama’s temperament. When He went into the village and He found there was an old woman [Shabari] and this old woman had all her teeth out practically. And she was from the aboriginal and she gave Him some we call them “ber” - is something like is a kind of a fruit, small fruits. And she said, “See, I have tasted all of them and all of them are very sweet. Because You should not have something which is not sweet. So I have tasted them with my tooth, I have put my tooth on to them and I have tasted it. So please have them.” Immediately He took it. But His brother Lakshmana got very angry that it’s very inauspicious in India, if you have put something in the mouth and then you want to give to somebody is something ["utishta"] – is not to be done. But Shri Rama said “I have never eaten such beautiful fruits. They are the most beautiful fruits I have eaten.” So His wife says, “Also give Me some. After all, I am Your half this thing, You must give Me.” So Shri Rama gave Her some. She said, “Wow, what a thing it is, tremendous.” She ate it and then the Lakshmana says “Give me also, sister-in-law.” She said, “Just now you were saying all kinds of things against this lady. Why do you want to have it?” He said, “Now please forgive me and give me.” So, see, it shows that Shri Rama could see her love, her vibrations in those fruits that she had offered. And He could appreciate to that extent that He gave it to His wife and the wife also joined hands with Him. This is what it is. That whatever you do, you do it with love. If you do it with love, you will be able to make it auspicious. But if there’s no love, you are just doing for some purpose, then it is useless. So this is what is there for giving; giving to the person like Shri Ram, and to such a great incarnation. She just thought of her love and she gave it to Him. In the same way you have to be very simple, simple-hearted, and then you will know what is the best to be done. So today is, actually the Diwali is over and I want to wish you again and again a happy Diwali and a very prosperous new year. May God bless you all. The same Lakshmi becomes Mahalakshmi. That is, when you understand the value of money and when you are saturated and you are fed up. From inside you get detached, then a new form of Lakshmi comes forward, that is Mahalakshmi. That’s the power which takes you higher and higher, which is the spiritual awakening. You have seen in all the countries which are very rich, this desire started that they should seek the truth, they should find out the truth and that’s how you are all here. That means Mahalakshmi Power started working in you, that you were seeking the truth. And while seeking the truth you came to Sahaja Yoga. So this Mahalakshmi is very important for you also. And you know Kolhapur, there’s a temple of this Mahalakshmi which came out of the Mother Earth. But they themselves didn’t know that in that temple why they sang “Jogawa,” which said that “O Ambe, awaken.” Ambe is the Kundalini. So why in Mahalakshmi’s temple they sang? You can understand that, why in that temple they started singing the song of “Jogawa” by which to raise the Kundalini.

Diwali Puja, Novi Ligure, Italy, October 25th, 1998 I am overjoyed really today to see you all here to celebrate the Diwali Puja. We were to be in Portugal but it was not so - so we are here. Diwali Puja is a very small puja but extremely significant. Firstly in Diwali, the first day they buy something for the family. You can - maybe some cooking utensil could be, an ornament for the wife or something like that. Because that is the day of housewife. And that day is to be celebrated as the housewife’s, I should say, homage to her. As a result you know in India even now housewives are very much respected. Actually they are respected all over. You will be amazed that even in the protocol of the government receptions anywhere the wife is very important. And where she is sitting, what is her position is very important. Even today in the most modern and advanced countries also they have a special respect for the housewife. The housewife may not be educated, she may be a very simple woman, she may not be very modern. There was an experience for Me: in London we had a program where we all were invited, and the head of the delegation, his wife was missing. So they asked Me, “Where is she?" Because there is a seat for her, she has to sit there. I said, “I don’t know, I didn’t see her. She must be somewhere here.” So just before starting I went to the washing room and I was surprised she was sitting in the waiting room there. I said, “What are you doing here? They are all waiting for you outside.” So she said, “They asked me to sit here.” So I went out and I told them “Now she is sitting there. Why… why don’t you call her to sit in her seat?” “Is she the wife?” I said, “Yes, of course, she is the wife.” “We thought she was some secretary.” I said, “What made you think?” This lady had, you see, very modern ideas - wearing a very modern slick dress and all that and and everybody thought this lady must be the secretary at the most. So they made her sit in the waiting room. You see - So it is expected of a housewife to be decently dressed, honorably dressed and not to dress up like a secretary or somebody who is just in the office. Because she is regarded as the highest - whether you like it or not. But she had permed her hair and she has been to a very expensive place for all decorations and everything. And poor thing, when she arrived they put her in the waiting room near the bathroom. That’s what it is. So for a housewife, she is the dignity of the household. Not only that, but she is responsible for the complete culture of that country, complete culture of that country. They represent the culture. Like in India nowadays they have started in the films showing all kinds of funny, funny dresses. But I haven’t seen any housewife wearing that. I haven’t seen anybody. It’s not in reality, it’s only in the film, because the society is so strong and the housewife is supposed to be a decent person. She has to be decent, she has to be very dignified and she has to behave in a dignified manner. On the contrary I would say, we had a prime minister called Lal Bahadur Shastri. His wife was absolutely uneducated because Shastriji went to jail and she couldn’t take her education - very simple, ordinary woman. And she went to France. That time there was this Mr. de Gaulle, he was the president. And his wife was another very simple woman. So Shastriji told her that “You are not to cry when you are leaving Mrs. de Gaulle, now you’ve become great friends.” God knows she didn’t know French and she didn’t know Hindi, but somehow both of them became great friends, on the level of housewives. And when he warned her not to cry, what happened that they started crying when they had to leave. So Shastriji said, “I told you not to cry." She said, “It is she, this French lady started crying. What can I do? I had to cry with her.” So you see, it’s a kind of a great collectivity of housewives that has to work out. They have common problems, they have to face their children, they have to look after the household, everything – I mean there are so many common problems with the housewives. And the housewife also knows all little, little things. You see, men at least in India don’t know much because they live in the air, I think. So the women have more sense in this respect, for small, small things they are quite aware. It’s very interesting sometimes, the men commit mistakes of such a great humor. Because they do not deal with day-to-day life, with all the problems of daily life. On one side the woman, housewife, has to deal with the daily life. On the other side she has to look after her family, her children. Also, poor thing, she is responsible for the society. She has to maintain the society. In a country where women are sensible and are matured, you will be amazed that they become extremely good families, good societies and good children. That’s why I must say, India is a very good country of very good society. This is come out of the housewives, the Gruha Lakshmis of the house, who have done all the work that is important as far as the culture is concerned. This kind of thing is very much in India and with that, what you find that the people respect, respect the housewives. So respecting the housewife is the most important thing in our Sahaj culture. But that doesn’t mean that the women should try to dominate and trouble and fight with the husbands. But it means a very important position in the society, of a housewife. She is treated as a something a, like a devi only. But she too has to be a devi. If you treat her like a doormat, then children will never respect her. If you don’t pay proper respect to her, the children won’t respect the mother and there will be no impact of the mother on the children. As a result the children get wayward, and in the societies or in the countries where the mother is not respected, you will find the children become extremely dominating, hot-tempered and horribly uncollective. So it’s very important that on this day we call it Dhanteras - the thirteenth day - you have to buy something for your wife, and you have to give her something as a present. At least you should buy a little pot or something that can be used in the kitchen to show your respect to her. In the families where mother is not respected children become extremely troublesome and the whole, their family also suffers - wherever they are married, whatever happens to them. Men have to realize, it is their mistake that they have never respected their wife as they should have. In the presence of the children if they shout, in the presence of the children if they don’t show any respect, the children can never respect the mother. It is something, a criminal thing to do to women who are in the household doing all the work for you, looking after you, your family, not demanding anything. Only if you want to understand how they can be troublesome, is see them in the politics. When they go in the politics they put all men upside-down. And one woman can put all of them in their proper senses. Because their field is their house, their family. If they are not respected in the family, they get out of the family and behave in such manner that you can’t imagine. Though she has to bear a lot, she has to suffer a lot, but in the family she must be respected. That’s a very, very important message of Gruha Lakshmi. Then the second day is the one where this horrible rakshasa called as Narakasura was killed. Always all killing is done with the power of the Shakti. This Narakasura was the fellow who had tortured so many people and had done lots of cunning stuff. He was a very treacherous, cunning man and it was impossible to kill him. But then somehow or other, with the advent of a special power that this Narakasura was killed. That was the another day, fourth day, where Narakasura was killed. They say that when he was killed, the door of hell was closed. So people should take their baths early in the morning. But I am of the opinion that day if the door is open, better not take bath. Be in your beds till this fellow is put fully into narak. You should not bother about him. “Naraka” means hell. And from the hell they extracted him and killed him. The last one is the best, where they have the meeting of Shri Rama and His brother Bharat. Shri Rama went to jail, obeying His father. And for fourteen years He was – not a jail but in a, we could say, He went in the forest as a - it was a kind of a jail only, because He was living in the palaces and He was sent in the forest by His father and his daughter-in-law; also I mean it’s His own wife. And also the brother, they went together into great sufferings. And you know the whole story of Ramayana. The child that lived in the palaces had to go in the forest and live in terrible conditions, when He was to be the king. Was too much. But Sita went with Him and She supported Him and ultimately it so happened that Ravana came and took away Sita. But Shri Rama fought Ravana, killed him and brought back His wife. But when they came back to their own capital in Ayodhya, there was a big jubilation and Bharat, His brother - he was very much attached to his brother and he ruled that country with the paduka - they say is the kind of sandalwood chappals they use – of his brother. He put it on the throne and ruled. So that is how the Bharat milan- the meeting of Bharat with Shri Rama- is celebrated, and that was the time He was crowned also as the king. So it is long time back, thousands of years back this thing has happened. That jubilation is very significant that the right king gets His own throne, and He rules. And all the injustice and all kind of atrocities He has gone through has to be completely finished from His life. And that’s why Diwali is important. So the last day they worship the Goddess Lakshmi. Because it is Her blessings that brought forth all these beautiful meetings. And that’s why they worship Her, Lakshmi, as such. But there are nine types of Lakshmis within us, which I think I have told you sometimes back. Now in that Lakshmi Puja is this, that you worship the Lakshmi Herself. It doesn’t mean money, not at all. To worship money is wrong. But what it means that Lakshmi is the money which is with us - or the whatever prosperity with that - should be very carefully spent, because She is very mobile and the money can slip out. On the contrary you should not be at all miserly. Miserly people – Lakshmi is not happy. But if you want to spend, you must spend it in the right way, otherwise the money is spent in the wrong way. Now when the Lakshmi was created - you must be knowing out of the churning of the sea She came out. She had four hands, one hand was to give. She is generous, She gives. Like this She gives, and with one hand She blesses. These are Her two hands. One is to give, and to bless the person.Very important it is, that when you give to somebody something, you forget about it, and you bless that person. Not only you give money, but also you bless that person. The other two hands have got two lotuses of pink color. Pink is the color of love. And a person who has money should have a house which is full of love. Any guest who comes in the house should be respected. He should be treated just like God. In India you have noticed how they think foreigners - “foreigners” means God to them. Here “foreigner” is a bad word, but in India is very respectable. If you are a foreigner means that you are God. How they have looked after you, you know that, in India. This is the reason, this is the basic culture of India that anybody who is a guest - he may be anything - if he is a guest then he is to be treated like God. In the other countries it’s just the other way round, you know. If you are a foreigner then people think it’s not even proper to talk to that person. I don’t know how the mentality is like that. But not in Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja yogis are not like that. They treat the guests very well, I’ve heard. They look after each other and they are beautifully collective. So this is what is the meaning of the lotus, is a house full of love. Like a beetle which has got even thorns, when it comes to the lotus, the lotus open out and the beetle goes inside and sleeps very nicely and comfortably. Even the beetle - undisturbed. That is how one should treat, if you have money. But here what I find in the world now, if you have money you become yourself like a beetle. They’re so full of thorns and horrible ideas, so insulting, and think no end of yourself. It’s just surprising is that money which should give them the form of Lakshmi - Lakshmi Swarupa - they become like devils. And the way they treat other people is even worse than that. So these are the significance of the form of the Goddess. But the best is, She’s just standing on the lotus. That means no pressure on anyone. She exists on Her own - no pressure. She doesn’t put any pressure on anyone, just on Her own She stands and all Her weight and all balanced on Her own dignity. This is the way a Lakshmi should be. And that’s how, if it is, when happens in the countries where people are having now financial crisis and all kinds of crisis, things will improve. People will enjoy. They don’t enjoy their money, nothing. They don’t enjoy. This is just aggressiveness and also funny ideas of having a, something, very expensive things and what you call the designers. Now I think these are designers are anti-Lakshmi, that they have come. Because they are extracting all your money nicely and all your money goes to waste. If not that, then people take to womanizing or to drinking - such wasteful habits. They don’t do anything which we can call as really the blessing of the Lakshmi. So one has to remember that when you want to give something to someone do it with the full heart. Such full heart that it forms that Lakshmi Prasada. You see, that should happen, otherwise what’s the use of giving presents to anyone? You see, they are very funny people, you know who give presents out of a very narrow outlook. But they try to give presents. Like in Japan, if you go, they’ll give you such a big present. You go on opening and opening and opening and opening it, till you come to a point when you’ll get a matchbox. In the matchbox - inside the matchbox, you will take two, you can say, it’s two doll-like things made out of small little those matchsticks. Start looking at them “What this is, why such a big design?” and very surprising. But they are very simple people otherwise, very simple. When we went there, they told us they – wherever we went, you know even in a shop when it was raining they would give us a present. Now I said, “What is this? Why are they giving us a present like this?” So the lady who was translating, she said “They think You are from a royal family.” I said, “What makes them feel we are from a royal family?” “Because You don’t go to hairdresser.” I said, “Really?” “Yes. In Japan, royal family people never go to a hairdresser.” I said, “I didn’t know this, that they don’t go to the hairdresser.” “That’s why they think, You are from the royal family.” Just imagine what ideas people have about hairdressing and all that. But in India or these places a woman must be properly combed - her hair. She shouldn’t look like a hippie going round, you know. Because we have many people who still believe in a kind of a hippieism and they wear their hairdress like that. Now, woman plays a very big part in the society as I told you. Whatever way she wears, whatever where she goes about, also the children pick up much more then from the mother than from the father. Sometimes could be much more from the father also. But actually the, all the refined things are picked up from the mother. So it is more for the ladies to understand how they dress up, how they live. Nowadays – I went to London and I’ve asked one Indian Sahaja yogini “What is the fashion now?” So she said “jipreya” in Marathi. “Jipreya” means if you put your hair like this is. See in India, if we have hair like this the mother will say “Now remove your jipreyas.” Because if you put like that hair your eyes can become squinty. But that’s the fashion to put the hair like this, you see - very much, sometimes on the eyes also. So that’s a jipreya fashion. And this now is quite common I find everybody dignified ladies also, except for Mrs. Thatcher, everybody puts on this kind of a thing. I don’t know how Mrs. Thatcher has escaped it. But anybody who does anything that should not be followed by women. It’s very slavish. Because this is the fashion, that’s why they do it. That’s the fashion, so they do it. It’s absolutely stupid to do that way and to play into the hands of these people who make fashions. Because you are independent. You must stand on your own character. you must stand on your own understanding of things. Instead of ruining your faces you should try to improve them by your dignity, by your understanding. Now it’s more on the women - I am sorry to say - Lakshmi Puja is more on the women that what they have to understand, what they have to be, how they should be. I have always told you that it’s necessary for a woman to be dignified, very much more than the man. Man can be stupid – doesn’t matter, you see, doesn’t matter so much. But women have to be dignified and sensible. And men, as it is, don’t know much as you know that very well. Poor things, you know, they are They are educated only in the universities. But as far as the practical side is concerned, they don’t know anything. So one should not feel bad about it. I mean, it’s very enjoyable to see the way men make mistake and then they go on saying “No, no, I know this, I know that,” and they don’t know anything! So - But man will never say, “I don’t know.” You see, that’s his character. It’s all right. You must know that he doesn’t mean it, because he really doesn’t know anything! Also in art. I don’t think men know much about art, and also their one side is missing is aesthetics. Poor things, they make one type of clothes wear all throughout. Just one type of dresses they will make and that they will make and wear throughout. They don’t have any demand. But women are artistic. And if our Indian women give up wearing saris and take to jeans, where will the villagers go? Because they live with their saris that they make during holidays and things like that. So in India is not possible to introduce all these dresses. In the school maybe, but later on they all give up, because they like saris. So the saris are still on and will be on because it’s so artistic, it’s so beautiful. One sari doesn’t look like another sari. So the idea of beauty and the idea of art much more with the women, not with the men. And so one should see that if men don’t know, doesn’t matter. But you make your houses absolutely artistic. Make it comfortable like the lotus, as I said, that should be such. But some of the ladies can be very much like a Hitler, you know, in the household, very dictating. “This should be like this, that should be like that,” making the life of men absolutely miserable. I have known a person who used to carry a newspaper in his house. So I said, “Why do you carry it all the time?” He said, “Whenever I sit, I put the newspaper first and then I sit.” “Why?” “Because if it is spoilt a little bit my wife will shout at me.” I said, “Why?” “Because she doesn’t like anything to be spoilt. So she’s so particular. I carry a newspaper always with me - wherever I have to sit I put the newspaper." I said, “It’s too much.” He said, “You will also have to do that, I tell You.” So very particular about the whole house that it’s impossible to live in that house. It’s even worse than a hospital. So some women can be very particular about that and very methodical, could be. But normally women should be very loving and extremely accommodating, and also being friendly with all the family members, with everyone. It’s very important that I’ve a family so big. We have a very large family, so many brothers and sisters and everybody one better than the other. It is so remarkable that everybody has a different type of a perfume, I think, or a kind of a fragrance that shows an individual personality in them. Despite that they are all so nice and so good, so accommodating and so much enjoying, that it’s remarkable how people live together. Specially in Russia I found the women are very adaptable and very humorous. And they were making fun of everything and enjoying life. Very surprising, we had taken presents for them. But we had taken for about two thousand people, but there were sixteen thousand people. So how could we give these presents? So the women took out their chains and they said, “All right, we’ll give it to men, all right. We’ll give them our ear-tops, all right,” and they were making fun of men, who were feeling bad that they couldn’t get anything. Such fun, you know, such understanding. Because they are not so money-oriented I think and they are very spiritual-minded. So a spiritual woman wouldn’t bother about other things like this and will keep a dignity of her own and will show by her every gesture that she is spiritual. This is something so sweet, you know. As I was telling you, on one side sometimes you feel a little different, say, I said it about Japan. But in the same Japan when I went there, I liked their tiles very much. So they were building up something, I liked the design of their tiles. So I said, “Can I take one from here?” “No, no, doesn’t matter. We’ll send it to Your ship.” And on the ship a big load of those tiles arrived. And the captain asked Me, “Now what are we to do?” I said, “How did you get it?” He said, “They brought it to You.” All kinds of varieties of those tiles, can you imagine? So on one side it is a way of expression, on the other side is different. So one should understand also. When somebody gives you something you should understand what is the significance of that, and not to feel bad about it. The significance of that could be very much great, you may not understand. So better to ask, why they have given you these things. That is what is, what we call auspiciousness, one of the great qualities of the Lakshmi is, that it should be auspicious. Whatever you give should be auspicious. Like sometimes I have seen little children out of mischief will bring a lizard and try to give you. I mean, it’s very inauspicious to do that. But they are not told that it’s inauspicious, so they are doing like that. They have to be told it’s not auspicious, it will not please the Goddess. So that has to be understood very well that you should not try to insult the Lakshmi by giving something which is wrong. If you don’t know, you should find out and do it properly. In this way this is the Diwali thing. But the greatest message of this is that the kingdom was given to Shri Rama. Shri Rama was the embodiment of justice and fair play. And this was given to Him. In the same way we have to feel that our expression of gratitude, our expression of love should be such that it should be given to a person who is a symbol of such greatness like Shri Ram. It’s a very, very subtle thing one should try to understand. If you don’t want to give, you should not give. But if you want to give, then you must give something which is worth the person to whom you are giving. That is one of the lessons you should have about Shri Rama’s temperament. When He went into the village and He found there was an old woman [Shabari] and this old woman had all her teeth out practically. And she was from the aboriginal and she gave Him some we call them “ber” - is something like is a kind of a fruit, small fruits. And she said, “See, I have tasted all of them and all of them are very sweet. Because You should not have something which is not sweet. So I have tasted them with my tooth, I have put my tooth on to them and I have tasted it. So please have them.” Immediately He took it. But His brother Lakshmana got very angry that it’s very inauspicious in India, if you have put something in the mouth and then you want to give to somebody is something ["utishta"] – is not to be done. But Shri Rama said “I have never eaten such beautiful fruits. They are the most beautiful fruits I have eaten.” So His wife says, “Also give Me some. After all, I am Your half this thing, You must give Me.” So Shri Rama gave Her some. She said, “Wow, what a thing it is, tremendous.” She ate it and then the Lakshmana says “Give me also, sister-in-law.” She said, “Just now you were saying all kinds of things against this lady. Why do you want to have it?” He said, “Now please forgive me and give me.” So, see, it shows that Shri Rama could see her love, her vibrations in those fruits that she had offered. And He could appreciate to that extent that He gave it to His wife and the wife also joined hands with Him. This is what it is. That whatever you do, you do it with love. If you do it with love, you will be able to make it auspicious. But if there’s no love, you are just doing for some purpose, then it is useless. So this is what is there for giving; giving to the person like Shri Ram, and to such a great incarnation. She just thought of her love and she gave it to Him. In the same way you have to be very simple, simple-hearted, and then you will know what is the best to be done. So today is, actually the Diwali is over and I want to wish you again and again a happy Diwali and a very prosperous new year. May God bless you all. The same Lakshmi becomes Mahalakshmi. That is, when you understand the value of money and when you are saturated and you are fed up. From inside you get detached, then a new form of Lakshmi comes forward, that is Mahalakshmi. That’s the power which takes you higher and higher, which is the spiritual awakening. You have seen in all the countries which are very rich, this desire started that they should seek the truth, they should find out the truth and that’s how you are all here. That means Mahalakshmi Power started working in you, that you were seeking the truth. And while seeking the truth you came to Sahaja Yoga. So this Mahalakshmi is very important for you also. And you know Kolhapur, there’s a temple of this Mahalakshmi which came out of the Mother Earth. But they themselves didn’t know that in that temple why they sang “Jogawa,” which said that “O Ambe, awaken.” Ambe is the Kundalini. So why in Mahalakshmi’s temple they sang? You can understand that, why in that temple they started singing the song of “Jogawa” by which to raise the Kundalini.

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Arun Apte (and students). Ganapatipule, Maharashtra, India. December 1998. the transcription for the first 12 minutes of the talk: It is very difficult to describe this inner joy. You can only enjoy it. You can only feel it. It’s something so innate, to see that so many of you have learnt this difficult music. And all of you have been enjoying it.I went to various places in the West, and I felt that, why, even small little children, boys and girls, take to something which is self destructive? Why? Why do they take to drugs? Why do they take to all these sins which are self destructive?I mean we could blame the parents to some extend, but on the all, there was something them, which was troubling them, which was trying to say that it’s not true, this’ not the thing, this is not the thing that you want. And that’s what made them go into all kinds of various types of rebellion, I should say, against all the accepted truth or accepted goodness or value system. And I just thought that, of course in India the parents are rather strict, I must say, like - but there is one more thing in India, there’s a big outlet for them. And I found that outlet was the talent that they had. They had lots of talents, all of them I felt, when I talk to them, and this and that, I felt that they have lots of talents, but there is no way to express it. Crain people have been doing some sort of an harp hazard expression I should say, [Shri Mataji smiles] and they could not understand themselves why they were doing it. And this was the main thing that was lacking, I think, in the West, that the children had no way of expressing themselves, of expressing their talent. And this talent was making them mad, I think, that was making them absolutely rebellious. It was not their mistake by any chance, it was an energy within, which was bubbling and had no outlet. And whatever outlet they had was not recognized, was not appreciated.And this made me feel that if the children are given an outlet, a means of expressing themselves, I’m sure they’ll take to it, they’ll forget all these things, they’ll never take to all self destructive ideas. Because they were angry with them I think. And it worked. It worked in the sense that first I wanted Yogis to start a school for small children. And I was surprised how these children took to another kind of life style, very disciplined style. It’s very different children.Like in the West I found a child, supposing you take him to the shop, he’ll make you mad because he’ll say buy me this and buy me that, not understanding that one cannot afford it. And left to himself, I would say that he would go on buying the whole of the market. He’s so mad about it. But I thought that there was some sort of a thing that’s lacking in him, in satisfaction.On the contrary in India, if you take one boy or a girl to the market, they’ll say: “bas, bas [enough, enough], only one, one will do.”Big, very big problem. I had my own granddaughters I took them once to Delhi because they had broken their chapels, you know, and they had only one pair, the parents are well to do, no problem, but one chapel with them had broken, I said : “All right, you come along, now in Delhi you can get good ones, we’ll back from now.” So they came and I bought for them They said : “Nany, at any cost we’ll not take the second one, We’ll just take one. “ But I said : “Supposing this brakes, then what will happen?”“Then you’ll come back again to Delhi to buy chapels.” “Have one spare at least.” They wouldn’t listen and they run away into the car. I went there I said : “What are you doing? Why don’t you buy chapels for yourself? “ Why do you want to waste your money? Nany, you can use it for something else.”Now I was surprised the way they were so satisfied, of course they are born realized, no doubt, but also the all atmosphere. I felt that this atmosphere, if the children from the West can get , they will definitely prosper, they’ll definitely express themselves, and they’ll become excellent people. But I did not know the energy was so much, you see. After my brother your Babamama, I asked him why not start an academy of music - and when they came to music I was surprised. I was really surprised, when we had been expecting anything from them, within 3 months, within 4 months, they picked up such a difficult music style. It’s impossible, it’s impossible for Indians to do that. They can never do in 4 months time. Oh Baba, I’ve seen in my own family, they were musicians, and my sisters, my brothers, for hours together, every morning they used to get up at 5 o’clock and start their music. Every day rias [training] for 3, 4 hours. Every day! I used to think now when will this end, I mean after all, if somebody has to sleep after 5, you can just not sleep. But that’s a custom in India to get up very early in the morning. But, the way this people are learning it so fast, it is because that urge to express themselves was inside very, very strong, much stronger than Indians. That’s true; I can tell you very clearly, I have never heard of anybody learning this difficult music in 3 months and 4 months. For years together they would not learn. Same about you people, how you have started appreciating it. I just don’t know. I mean it’s a different atmosphere that has started, so full of hope and joy.8;35You see now, there was one fellow who went to Belgium. He was an Italian, Italian Sahaja Yogi. He said : “Mother, I was surprised, there was a nice program with the Indians, and the Indians consulted and arrange so I went to the program. And they ware talking to each other and some of them went out and some of them came in, these Indians. They never understood that it was Pilu rag [Shri Mataji speaks in another language] Even an ordinary Pilu raag they cannot recognize!I was surprised that this Italian that he - what he sings he really, I’ve seen it. The Indians, when they go for this kind of a very deep type of music, after 15 minutes they start sleeping out. Also they told me that in England, they went to a music center, otherwise we can say for buying the records or something, so all the boys who were there, who were Indians, were buying pop music, that music, and they looked at that Sahaja Yogis and said : “Are you stupid fools? Why are you buying this music, this Indian music? What is there in this Indian music?” They said : “It’s better not to talk to you because you are gone case.”Now, you see, because, some or other, this is a sahaj trick idea, that your energy’s tuned up to a very subtle and deep understanding of the music. Otherwise, it would never have worked like this. I mean it’s the Kundalini, of course, no doubt, but the way she has nourished you to absorb, to understand, to enjoy, this is very subtle music. And it has happened more with the western people than with the Indians. I’m sorry [Shri Mataji talks to someone in paticular]But Indian don’t have that much of understanding nor that much of enjoyment. Westerners may not enjoy, euh- may not understand, but they enjoy!Indians feel- those who are, I mean, a little bit educated in music, will start finding out faults, finding out ragas, this was not good, that. No, but not Westerners. Western people are so humble about it. Isn’t it remarkable how is it they have picked up so quickly and have understood? Because, they have become subtler. This is the only thing I can say that they become subtler and their energies are flowing through the subtler level. It’s surprising for Babamama, also for me, for everyone that in 3, 4 months, how can you play Malkans rag?First time I heard, I started wondering [Shri Mataji laughs], how can that be? And that is such a hope to save this music. It may be that In India, it may be declining, but in the West, it’s rising.

Arun Apte (and students). Ganapatipule, Maharashtra, India. December 1998. the transcription for the first 12 minutes of the talk: It is very difficult to describe this inner joy. You can only enjoy it. You can only feel it. It’s something so innate, to see that so many of you have learnt this difficult music. And all of you have been enjoying it.I went to various places in the West, and I felt that, why, even small little children, boys and girls, take to something which is self destructive? Why? Why do they take to drugs? Why do they take to all these sins which are self destructive?I mean we could blame the parents to some extend, but on the all, there was something them, which was troubling them, which was trying to say that it’s not true, this’ not the thing, this is not the thing that you want. And that’s what made them go into all kinds of various types of rebellion, I should say, against all the accepted truth or accepted goodness or value system. And I just thought that, of course in India the parents are rather strict, I must say, like - but there is one more thing in India, there’s a big outlet for them. And I found that outlet was the talent that they had. They had lots of talents, all of them I felt, when I talk to them, and this and that, I felt that they have lots of talents, but there is no way to express it. Crain people have been doing some sort of an harp hazard expression I should say, [Shri Mataji smiles] and they could not understand themselves why they were doing it. And this was the main thing that was lacking, I think, in the West, that the children had no way of expressing themselves, of expressing their talent. And this talent was making them mad, I think, that was making them absolutely rebellious. It was not their mistake by any chance, it was an energy within, which was bubbling and had no outlet. And whatever outlet they had was not recognized, was not appreciated.And this made me feel that if the children are given an outlet, a means of expressing themselves, I’m sure they’ll take to it, they’ll forget all these things, they’ll never take to all self destructive ideas. Because they were angry with them I think. And it worked. It worked in the sense that first I wanted Yogis to start a school for small children. And I was surprised how these children took to another kind of life style, very disciplined style. It’s very different children.Like in the West I found a child, supposing you take him to the shop, he’ll make you mad because he’ll say buy me this and buy me that, not understanding that one cannot afford it. And left to himself, I would say that he would go on buying the whole of the market. He’s so mad about it. But I thought that there was some sort of a thing that’s lacking in him, in satisfaction.On the contrary in India, if you take one boy or a girl to the market, they’ll say: “bas, bas [enough, enough], only one, one will do.”Big, very big problem. I had my own granddaughters I took them once to Delhi because they had broken their chapels, you know, and they had only one pair, the parents are well to do, no problem, but one chapel with them had broken, I said : “All right, you come along, now in Delhi you can get good ones, we’ll back from now.” So they came and I bought for them They said : “Nany, at any cost we’ll not take the second one, We’ll just take one. “ But I said : “Supposing this brakes, then what will happen?”“Then you’ll come back again to Delhi to buy chapels.” “Have one spare at least.” They wouldn’t listen and they run away into the car. I went there I said : “What are you doing? Why don’t you buy chapels for yourself? “ Why do you want to waste your money? Nany, you can use it for something else.”Now I was surprised the way they were so satisfied, of course they are born realized, no doubt, but also the all atmosphere. I felt that this atmosphere, if the children from the West can get , they will definitely prosper, they’ll definitely express themselves, and they’ll become excellent people. But I did not know the energy was so much, you see. After my brother your Babamama, I asked him why not start an academy of music - and when they came to music I was surprised. I was really surprised, when we had been expecting anything from them, within 3 months, within 4 months, they picked up such a difficult music style. It’s impossible, it’s impossible for Indians to do that. They can never do in 4 months time. Oh Baba, I’ve seen in my own family, they were musicians, and my sisters, my brothers, for hours together, every morning they used to get up at 5 o’clock and start their music. Every day rias [training] for 3, 4 hours. Every day! I used to think now when will this end, I mean after all, if somebody has to sleep after 5, you can just not sleep. But that’s a custom in India to get up very early in the morning. But, the way this people are learning it so fast, it is because that urge to express themselves was inside very, very strong, much stronger than Indians. That’s true; I can tell you very clearly, I have never heard of anybody learning this difficult music in 3 months and 4 months. For years together they would not learn. Same about you people, how you have started appreciating it. I just don’t know. I mean it’s a different atmosphere that has started, so full of hope and joy.8;35You see now, there was one fellow who went to Belgium. He was an Italian, Italian Sahaja Yogi. He said : “Mother, I was surprised, there was a nice program with the Indians, and the Indians consulted and arrange so I went to the program. And they ware talking to each other and some of them went out and some of them came in, these Indians. They never understood that it was Pilu rag [Shri Mataji speaks in another language] Even an ordinary Pilu raag they cannot recognize!I was surprised that this Italian that he - what he sings he really, I’ve seen it. The Indians, when they go for this kind of a very deep type of music, after 15 minutes they start sleeping out. Also they told me that in England, they went to a music center, otherwise we can say for buying the records or something, so all the boys who were there, who were Indians, were buying pop music, that music, and they looked at that Sahaja Yogis and said : “Are you stupid fools? Why are you buying this music, this Indian music? What is there in this Indian music?” They said : “It’s better not to talk to you because you are gone case.”Now, you see, because, some or other, this is a sahaj trick idea, that your energy’s tuned up to a very subtle and deep understanding of the music. Otherwise, it would never have worked like this. I mean it’s the Kundalini, of course, no doubt, but the way she has nourished you to absorb, to understand, to enjoy, this is very subtle music. And it has happened more with the western people than with the Indians. I’m sorry [Shri Mataji talks to someone in paticular]But Indian don’t have that much of understanding nor that much of enjoyment. Westerners may not enjoy, euh- may not understand, but they enjoy!Indians feel- those who are, I mean, a little bit educated in music, will start finding out faults, finding out ragas, this was not good, that. No, but not Westerners. Western people are so humble about it. Isn’t it remarkable how is it they have picked up so quickly and have understood? Because, they have become subtler. This is the only thing I can say that they become subtler and their energies are flowing through the subtler level. It’s surprising for Babamama, also for me, for everyone that in 3, 4 months, how can you play Malkans rag?First time I heard, I started wondering [Shri Mataji laughs], how can that be? And that is such a hope to save this music. It may be that In India, it may be declining, but in the West, it’s rising.

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Letter To whomsoever it may concern. I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment – for me. I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. (Sg - UNCLEAR) Mataji Nirmala Devi 10th Dec 1998 (Ms. Nirmala Srivastava) PDF

Letter To whomsoever it may concern. I want to state that nobody has any right on my body, without my permission I should not be treated by any doctor vidya or any other person. Specially my husband and my family members should not at all have any say in my sickness. No one has to admit me in any hospital. Even Sahaja Yogis can not admit me in the hospital or treat me or arrange any doctor for treatment – for me. I want to declare that my family should never never admit me in the hospital. Specially my husband has no right over my body and any advice from him should not be accepted at all. In short I do not want to be admitted in any hospital by anyone. Before my death I will write what is to be done with my body. (Sg - UNCLEAR) Mataji Nirmala Devi 10th Dec 1998 (Ms. Nirmala Srivastava) PDF

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1998-1214 Public Program, The Revival of Indian Spirituality Now you are coming from different countries. I am very happy to see you all. Here also we have sahaja yogis from different countries who have come. Lucky that, that this time they are here and you are here. Many people come to India, all the time, from all over the world. And if you ask them they’d say we are seeking the truth. So why are you coming to India of all the places? They say that they have learned that the truth is in India, that we have to find out the truth. I must say that in our country also we have lots of falsehood and lots of false gurus have come up just to make money, to befool people and to some [UNCLEAR another/or the other] to destroy our relationships. But I must tell you that India is a very deep country and the knowledge of this country is not easy for a western mind to grab. Really to begin with because the reason is, the style of seeking knowledge in India is different, absolutely opposite of what you have in the West. First of all, in India, I mean those who are real seekers and those who want to know the reality they are the ones who see one point that this is [UNCLEAR relation] is written in our ancient books, described by great saints as you have also Sufis and all these people there and also prophets in the same way they believe that what they have written is the truth. But [(talking away from mike) Come in. Who are they?].. But they, Indians, don’t challenge it. They don’t use rationality to find out as in the West that [UNCLEAR and] think everything they start rationalizing. They don’t rationalize. What they do, they believe because it is told by the saints who are, who are above us. Who have reached a state which is much higher than (us). So now how to tally it, is the problem? So to tally it it is said that you have to get your self-realization or the second birth, as Mohammad sahib has talked about it that you have to have kiyama means you have to have your second birth. If you don’t have your second birth you are not yet a complete person. Once you have your second birth then you must become also a complete spiritual personality. Unless and until you are a complete personality you cannot judge these people or have experiments within. So when you reach that state of, I must say, the highest evolution within you then you can test it what they have said is the truth or not. But not at this human level. Because at this human level we are at the most what we are, mental. We are physical, emotional or mental. But we are not yet spiritual. Unless and until you are spiritual you cannot judge whether something is spiritual or not. All this kind of understanding, all this kind of basically built-with-in-us for thousands of years you see. Indians are not the people who can be taken to rationality which they think is very low type of judgment. They have to be in the spiritual realm, in the spiritual personality, to understand spirituality. Now from all over the world the spirituality is coming as you see but reality you can only find in India, I must say very humbly. The reason is, it has been a country for spirituality. Not for materialism. So the materialism has not grown so much. All other things have grown in this country. But for spirituality which it should have been. So people start thinking they are very superficial. They are. The modern generation is very superficial and they take to all western ideas, western things and western culture. But our culture is very, very much in the foundation of human beings, foundation. Like as you see now things are happening in the west. We start wondering how these things have happened. Is not allowed in any religion, is not allowed in any books or anything. Why people are behaving like this? The reason is they have no faith, actual faith. What they do is to just show off or to make a group. They make a what you can call, a group to say that we belong to this religion, that religion, that religion. But if you see the Indian philosophy you will find all the religions are exalted. All this, you can say, all the principles of this great religions are there. You cannot challenge it because it is so basically true. So basically true that when you see what is written say in Kuran we have a book here. I don’t know if I gave you that one. We have a very nice book Light of Kuran. So when they read kuran also they do not read it. When they read bible also they don’t read it. Because they are lost in the words and same things happening to Indians. Their, all their philosophies and all that they get lost into the words you see. So in the web of words everything is lost. As a result they do not reach to the principle that is described. That’s why we have problems with every other religion but there should be no problem, no problem. Because all religions are based on the same principle that we have to achieve our spiritual ascent. There’s no other goal. But according to time, you see, they had to put things this should not be done, that should not be done. All this is due to the time factor which came in their time and they had to tell about it according to the society in which they lived, according to the behavior of the people of that time. In India because it’s an ancient country, very ancient, somebody told me, Mother why don’t you write a book on Indian culture? No, I said, it’s an ocean. It’s not easy to describe and ocean. It’s an ocean and is very deep. But when imbibed and when understood and when you become spiritual within then it just sieves into you, just comes into you and it shows that every culture of every country is the same. But in Indian culture it’s very very clearly described. That’s the only thing [UNCLEAR there]. Same thing is described. I mean now say there’s, ah, say Clinton is now in trouble. In India he would have been thrown out long time back. You see, because the value system of morality is very well described in Indian culture. This is not moral and this is moral. And the ruler has to be absolutely a moral person. But in America, you see, is different. There as I said is perversion has come into the brains of people. And because they have money materialistic people try to follow American life, which is not congenial. If you go to America you will find it’s not congenial to human beings. It’s very destructive. People are very destructive. They have no love. They try to dominate. They have racialism. I mean they have all kinds of things. While we too have in our country lots of bad things have come because of the British rule which came here. Most of our bureaucrats are nothing but British. It’s surprising it is. That there behavior is like British. I don’t say something wrong with the British also. But one thing is there, this country has evolved for so many years and they tried to dominate us so much that none of our, I should say, literature could come up. So much has gone into darkness. The other day I had an ambassador here from Mexico and he told me what is the problem of Mexico. I said it’s the problem of psychiatry, psychology. He said, ‘’What do you mean?’’ I said,“In Sanskrit language we call it bhoot bhadha. Means, the obstruction from the past.” Now they don’t believe in a sort of a dead body or a dead person can invade human being. They don’t believe. Though Christ removed the, what you call, devils from the people like that. But they don’t believe. Even in Quran there is a mention like that. But that is aright in Quran. That is alright in bible. But as far as the belief in the human being there is, they don’t believe. Now if I tell them that the psychosomatic troubles comes from the left side attack, left side attack, that is from the past, from the things that have gone out of circulation from evolution or you can say dead bodies, the dead persons, the dead personalities they will just refuse it, to listen to it. But if unless and until you believe in it and you experiment with it how will you be able to eradicate this bad thing. So that is not only there. Every country has this problem. Every country even England is also full of it. I mean of course advance countries like America is much worse. To add up to that lots of false gurus went to America and have done this one. So on this point also people don’t want to agree. But whether you agree or not tomorrow you will have to come to it. Because if you want to get cured of your psychosomatic troubles, even cancer, even AIDS, all these diseases come only by the attack of these small small particles of these viruses which were left out of our circulation through evolution. That will be seen. That is a knowledge to be seen very clearly. Now in sahaja yoga many people have been cured of cancer, no doubt. Also of AIDS they are cured. So many people have been cured. It’s not, I am not telling you something false. But for that one has to understand that there is some power beyond us, something much beyond. Like Einstein himself has said that there is a kind of an area which he calls as torsion area which you will see in one of these things, torsion area which is beyond our human personality. He calls it, we have to be a vacuum ourselves. We should not exist anymore as physical, mental or emotional being. When you go beyond that if there is a vacuum then only you can feel the torsion area he’s clearly said it. But he was a realized soul himself. So whatever he says people want to doubt you see, whether it is this and that?. So with rationality we start doubting. But not to believe in Einstein shows how arrogant we are. After all Einstein is saying there must be some in it. Like that the whole world is going on and on a very superficial basis. Now our sahaja yoga is a very different thing. It is that we all human being have a special power, a residual power within us called kundalini which resides in the triangular bone which is called as sacrum. Now the sacrum bone means it’s the sacred. That means Greeks knew about it, that’s the sacred bone. And this power when it rises from here goes through the, we call it a sushumna nadi, the central path of the thing and pierces through the fontanel bone area then you get the actualization of baptism. Then you become a Muslim, then you become a Hindu otherwise you are not. So it has to come out of your fontanel bone area and has to go to that torsion area. [(question in hindi)UNCLEAR ] Uh? What is being brought? The chart, this is the chart. Can you all see this one? Or we should raise it a little more. Now it is said in our books that such and such power exists and it has to rise. It exists in every human being. Whether he is Indian or Egyptian, Black or White anything. If you are…as long as he is a human being he has this in the triangular bone down there. So it rises through these six centers. Your seventh centre is down below. And when it rises through the six centers it pieces through the fontanel bone area which we call as thousand petal center. That becomes one with the sutler energy which is surrounding us, which does all the living work. Now you see the beauty of the flowers. These flowers are made by whom? You’ll say the Mother Earth. But how is it that the Mother Earth does that? From where does She get the power? How do you run your heart? Ask a simple question. It is you run your heart because of the same power that is all pervading divine power of love. It’s a power of compassion and love. One should understand the basic. It’s not hatred, it’s not violence, it is love, it is compassion and this power works out on everything. It works out in such a manner that ones you get that you can feel it on your fingers all these centers. You can see clearly there are shown that on finger tips you can feel what is the centre that is catching. You can feel your own. Mohammad sahib has said very clearly, your hands will speak at the time of kiyama. At the time of last judgement we can call it or the last resurrection. Your, your hands will speak. Your hands will speak. That means they will show, your hands will show what centers you are catching. Can you imagine when He said that nobody tries to analyze how can our hands speak. But your hands will speak he has clearly said. And that is what happens to you that you see your fingers showing you whether you are catching this centre or this center or this centre. This is actualization. This is not just talking. This is not only just describing something but it happens to everyone and should happen. As a result what happens all these centers are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and spiritual being. So they all get enlightened. They get integrated. Also they are nourished. So all our physical, mental, emotional problems get solved and we become spiritual. Now whatever country you may belong to whatever religion you may belong to you have every right to become spiritual. And when you become that you will be amazed to see that so many qualities within us start showing. The first and foremost quality that comes to you is you get a new dimension in your awareness. And what is that is collective consciousness. You become collectivity conscious. Means you can feel another person. You know what’s the problem with that. With love not with anger, with love, you feel one with another person. Ones this happens all the quarrelsome things will disappear. The whole world can be changed and transformed. And you as people who are responsible for the media can do a lot. But for the media people it’s very difficult because they have got on top of them other bosses sitting, this that. And if they write anything like that may be that it may not be liked, it may not be appreciated. But you have to have courage. And you must write about the truth if you find it, if you get it you must write about it. As a result what happens, actually what happens is that we are made of sutler energy. When we talk that, this Mother Earth, there are five elements which we are made of. But these elements are made of sutler energies. Once you become that your sutler energy start manifesting. And with that sutler energy you start getting different types of things. For example, they say it is the word or we call it shabd and from there it is, the another thing that comes is the naad, is the sound. This is the beginning I am talking of. And with that sound ones you have the sound then from the sound all these five elements come one after another. But the first one that comes out is light. So such a person starts showing light. You have seen there. See the light is all over. That is the first thing, Tejaswa (glow). Shri Mataji talks to yogi: What is Tejasva called? Tejaswa is called? Take it out(in Hindi language) Yogi: Radiance. Shri Mataji: Huh? Yogi: Radiance. Shri Mataji: Radiance of light. Radiance of light. Radiance of light. So that you start… (Please remove this, it's not useful) can starts showing radiance of light around a person as they have shown auras and all that you must have seen. In so many people they show auras also. The artists have seen auras around realized souls. Then that from the same comes the second subtle thing is Vayu. Vayu, air. Yogi: Ether? Shri Mataji: No no, Vayu is air. That is cool breeze. So you start feeling the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost as they say. This is the second thing. These are all subtler things. Of the air. Subtler is vayu. So it starts. So all subtler energies start showing. From the Jal (water)... Of the water also subtler... Leave it. Doesn't matter. I will hold it. So from water also you get a sutler thing of Jal. Jal is, we can call it as moisture. But moisture is not subtle. But a moisturous person. What happens with the moisture that your body becomes soft. Your know you put moisturising thing you body will become, your face becomes subtler. And dryness doesn’t come and your youth is preserved. At Least you look young. Your aging doesn’t come. Like that everything starts showing. Then Agni is for..huh?.. Yogi: Fire. Shri Mataji: Yeah Fire. Then the fire. See such a person is fire. But he doesn’t use because of love that’s very much…But fire can be used for two purposes. One is for burning out something and one for cooking food and doing things. So such person can create wonderful types of foods and interested in giving good food to people. And that food has vibrations. If the food of such a person has vibrations because it was cooked with that love, and passion, compassion. So that you take that food and you become a it can call a very tranquil person. Satisfied, you get with that very much satisfied. Now ones you people become satisfied materialism will be finished. Materialism will have no sense because what is it today you buy something then you go and buy another thing. Isn’t it? It is, all the time you are dissatisfied. Today you want to have a table and tomorrow you want to have a sofa, then you want to have a car, you want to have a...endless…That finishes and you become very much satisfied.. If you buy a table you will enjoy it. You buy a sofa you will enjoy it. You meet somebody you will enjoy it. So this particular nature that human being have is what you call a greed finishes. And he is a satisfied soul. He is a happy soul. And he enjoys himself. This is happening with the agni tattwa. Because this fire becomes a very silent, beautiful satisfying fire. In the subtle form when you get. Then there is jal tattwa (water principle), is the water. Water which is being vibrated, which has got vibrations can cure you. But normally you take any water it’s not going to cure you. But water which is vibrated by some saint or something can cure you. And also you must have heard of many places where they have waterfalls which…waterfalls which what you can call are curative type. All this is the sutler side of these five elements. Then the Mother Earth, certain places are we call it as very sacred, for example Mecca. Now what is so special about Mecca. It’s a stone there, that’s all. What is so special? The special according to our puranas, our old literature, it’s Makkeshwar Shiv itself. The God has come in the form of that stone according to Indian descriptions. You can imagine we have many Shivas and out of them one is Mecca. So but to prohibit Hindus to go there is wrong because they believe in Shiva and there is the Shiva there sitting down. Like that we have all the, all the elements go into transformations and they become subtle. And human beings also become subtle. So they understand [that] there is no difference between a person living in this country or that country or that country. So all your political problems can be solved. Supposing you give realization to Arafat and to this new president of Israel. No problem. If Israelis and Palestinians are given realization, no problem. They all can live very happily. And there will be no problem because they will see the oneness the subtlety that comes is that you feel the collectiveness. You feel one with everyone. And this is the new, we should say, transformation we are waiting for. That means sahaja yoga is working very fast all over but it’s not very advertising type I must admit, cause I don’t like too much of advertisement myself. But it advertises by itself. By itself. And the truth about it is that people have experimented and experienced. Now in a place, farfetched place like Leningrad in Russia, when I went there I was surprised that we had put one or two photographs here and there I think may not be even in the newspaper. And they were two thousand people who filled the hall. There they filled…they had limited capacity. We have to pay for the hall …for the hall people. So outside there were two thousand sitting I said how is it…How do you… you are all here? For what? They said, ”Mother, to listen to you.” Then I went inside and said alright let me finish these people and let me finish my lecture. When I came out you will be amazed they were still sitting. I said what is it? They said, ‘’Mother we are waiting for our self realization. I said, “Alright you come tomorrow all of you and I will give you self-realization.” You won’t believe all these two thousand inside two thousand outside. There’s a very big…This is one thing about Russia, they have huge big compounds so many came and also one thousand more perhaps. They all came and we all sat down. They sat on the grass and I sat on the steps and I talked to them and pin drop (silence). And all of them are still sahaja yogis, growing very much. I was amazed at how these people are attracted. What has made them come? So they said Mother so obvious, your face. My face I did not think it was that much to [UNCLEAR work up]…..Yes, we just saw your photograph and finished. We know. Now what has happened with them is that with communism they are very much suppressed. They couldn’t express themselves too much. They didn’t have that freedom. So they sought their freedom inside. They grew inside. While when we have so called freedom you go, you see, into abandonment. You do all kinds of things in the name of freedom. Human beings have too much freedom when they are in the so called democracy. So then they can, even, can become demons. You see in democracy you can become a, you see, demonic. So that can happen, but in Russia I was surprised and so many we have now sahaja yogis. I mean I have, I don’t know countless. Cannot count them as such. Surprising that that country has got so many. And they are very satisfied souls. So whatever has happened I told them aren’t you worried about your political problems. No Mother. I said why. We are in the kingdom of God. Why should we worry? See this satisfaction. In the kingdom of God we are. Why should we worry that what’s happening in Russia. See this kind of a mind of thousands of people. See it’s not just a false satisfaction. But factual I think…They are having lots of other things with them. For example, the vegetable growth has gone up. They have everything in that country. But the management is so bad that they are poor supposed to be. But they are not. Actually they have lots of things that many countries don’t have. But inside I was surprised that people in Russia are the most sensitive. May be they were so oppressed and so troubled. So this oppression has gone in the proper way there that they developed this kind of a sensitivity to spirituality. In our country also we were very much suppressed but instead of getting into the same mode as the Russians have we have tried to become Britishers you know. We are very slavish. Because one women comes from there who is very fair from Italy and we are all surrendered to her. Such slavery of fair complexion I have never seen before. But it shows our basic slavish mentality. And that’s why we have closed all our old books our knowledge into seed. We are not bothered to see that. And we are incapable of going into it and finding out what is so great about our country. It’s so much encompassing the whole universe. And what we can give them the highest that is the spirituality which they don’t have. Now because they have gone into materialism fully. But all our books all our literature has gone into waste. Nobody wants to read about it, nobody wants to know about it. Now with sahaja yog there is a revival in a way because we have a hospital now, regular hospital, where people are treating all kinds of incurable diseases. But is so simple no medicine nothing, raising your kundalini, finished. You raise the kundalini and you get it. You don’t have to waste money on medicines because what is medicine today. When I was studying medicine, they had to learn each and every medicine and we had to write a proper what you call a complete serial number of all these and a compounder had to make it. But now you see this, all these companies are making what you call antibiotics. For everything happens to there’s an antibiotic. They are not bothered as to how it affects you what if it bothers you. And it has become like that now. We have become so industrialized you see, doctors...that it is difficult for people to get out of it. Sahaja yoga we don’t give any antibiotics. We don’t give any antibiotics. Not at all. We don’t give any. Only kundalini rising and vibrated water and all that. Diagnosis also is such a big one overall. I mean if you go for diagnosis you come out half dead out of that diagnosis. Such a person… In sahaja yoga you can get it on the finger tips. Even children can tell you what’s wrong with you, if you are a realized soul. So such a great science is lost in this country because of a British rule we had. They never bothered to find out what was deep down into this country, such a knowledge, such a treasure of knowledge. So it happens also such that I met him in a very…. different circumstances and he was very helpful and he only told me. “How is he here?”, I said. He said, “We are, so many of us are here.. and who are...who have come for this conference and..” So I was very happy. And he said, “They would like to meet you Mother.” So I said,” Alright alright I would love to meet them and talk to them about it.” Now as you are all, what you can call, journalists used to questions, I would like you to ask me questions. Doesn’t matter. I mean, sit here, Sit here. Man: Hi, I have already seen Mataji at Kathmandu. Because I am from Nepal. And I would like to ask Matajii how do you find the..about religion..how they treat upon religion. What’s your views? Shri Mataji: How do you treat upon..? Man: Yeah upon religion. Yeah Shri Mataji: You see reasoning is done by your brain isn’t it..so called. But actually it’s not brain so much I should say but your conditioning and your ego. They give you the reasoning. This is the reason, this is the reason this is.. but you reach nowhere. You reach nowhere. You go on reasoning, reasoning, reasoning. You will go mad but you cannot reach to the point. But if you can stop reasoning and try to see if there’s another way out without reasoning, then this kundalini rises in an ancient way and can happen to all of you. There’s no problem. And ones you get it then you start understanding that there’s a..another system beyond us which guides us, which helps us. So the reasoning takes you nowhere. All the problem of today is because of reasoning. Lady: You speak of a hospital where people are not given medication. But they are healed. Can you tell me more about that? Shri Mataji: You are healed…Saying what? Yogi: Asking how are people healed in hospital? Shri Mataji: I told you just now. You see, these are the centers which look after our material side and also our physical welfare. So once it rises, this kundalini She nourishes those centers. Now I’ll tell you example you say of cancer. Yogi: Hello, Hello, Hello Shri Mataji: Now..say, these centers are formed, as you know, within us we have autonomous nervous system. And autonomous nervous system has got three channels, the center one and the two others. So very little is known about this parasympathetic nervous system. About the medical science they know very little. From the left and the right, say for example, these two forces coming and form the central path. In this resides the, we should say, the energy for the particular area, alright? Now what happens we start using this either on the right or the left, say for the journalist it’s more the right side they use. Because they have to think, futuristic you see all that. Now you start using them too much on this side. So you start moving like this. And there is exhaustion of the energy also. So what happens suddenly, something happens in life, some accident, something, some emotional problem so the left side which is the emotional side just gets out. So as a result you lose your connection with the whole. With the whole you lose. So you become working on your own. So you become malignant. This malignancy is the thing that works as cancer. With kundalini what She does, She goes here just like a tread and then She goes here, She brings them together. And then she nourishes them. So you get cured. Lady: So how do you personally reach that stage. You talked about the spirituality. Shri Mataji: Yeah Lady: How do you? Shri Mataji: That’s why I am saying that your kundalini has to be awakened. First that has to happen. Then you must have faith in yourself that you can work it out. If you are diffident or oh I am …See all there are all kinds of people there. They are people who are very guilty. Like, how can I get it? I have done this thing, I have done that thing. That’s one type which catches this centre. Another kind are very arrogant. They catch on this side you see. So this has to be corrected. Man: The vibrated water. Shri Mataji: Huh? Man: The vibrated water. You spoke about vibrated water. Where does it come from? Shri Mataji: It comes from people who have vibrations. Those who are realized their souls have vibrations. They can feel the cool breeze in their hands. Even if they put hand in the water it is vibrated. All such people, saints and all that, whatever water comes from them is vibrated. For example the river, Ganga here, Ganges is, has got vibrations. I mean, you have to become that then you can feel it, right? Unless and until you have that, subtle within you, you cannot feel it. To you everybody is just the same. Every bottle is just the same. I’ll give you an example. I went to Kashmir and suddenly I felt. We were going out somewhere actually [UNCLEAR Nibwel]. Lots of vibration. So I asked the driver, What do you have a temple here, something? How do I feel the vibrations? He said we don’t have any temple here. I said, “Alright, I will tell you, go this way.” That’s the (side) vibrations were coming. We went that way. There were some Muslim houses some very poor people. So I asked them, “What do you have here?” So he said, “It’s the Hazrat Bal.” One hair of Mohammad Sahab was kept. [UNCLEAR]…I get vibration. But these stupid people, they did not know anything, what it was. They are fighting for it and they..also the driver didn’t know what it was. And for five miles, before five miles I felt the vibrations. So whatever I say has to be tested on vibration which is your own, which is your own testing capacity. The capacity otherwise is blunt, it doesn’t give you the real picture. But supposing have vibrations you can feel it. Who has got it? Where you have it? It’s a very subtle thing but once it is there it works. Man: How does one attain such a state where you can? Yogi: How can one attain this state. Shri Mataji: It’s very simple. You can all attain it here only. Very simple. Now what has happened is that, I would say, that in the 12th century [1200s] in this country, up to that time we had a group of people called as Nagpanthis. I mean we had all this all over the world. There have been so many Nabis. But in this country we had. And there it was a law I would say, traditional, that one person could give realization to another person, only one, one to one. Then, you see, there was a great poet called Gyanadeva, Gyaneshwara. He wrote all this at the age of 23 you can imagine, what he must be. And he asked his guru that he should permit him to at least write about it. So in his book Gyaneshwari he wrote. On the sixth chapter he wrote about it, that such and such energy he sees and all that. But nobody used to give realization. Then in the sixteenth century there were many poets who wrote about it. I mean Guru Nanaka wrote about it, Kabira wrote about it, everybody. But nobody understood what they wrote because see normally people didn’t know what they were talking about. And after that sixteenth century it became yet still the same problem that one guru would give it to another. So when I was born...I was born I was myself a realized soul and my father himself was a saint. He told me as you know that is your mission is, to find out a way to give self realization am masse. So I worked it out myself. I by chance or I should...by luck my father was a very social person and I met many of his people. My husband too very social and I used to study human beings what’s the matter. Why can’t they get realization? So if I’ve done anything it is this that I’ve discovered a method by which am mass realization can be (done). And that’s how thousands can get realization at a time. Man: [UNCLEAR So]….can we experience that? Shri Mataji: Alright, they can all have it. You see so many sahaja yogis sitting here, no problem. Alright. Only thing you have to do is take out the shoes. Not the socks but the shoes. Will be better that way. Alright put both the feet apart from each other. Now just put your both the hands towards me like that. It is not mesmerism because I close my eyes you see. They mesmerize with the eyes. And don’t doubt. Just now don’t doubt yourself. It’s the main thing. How can I get it? I have done this wrong. I have done that wrong. So as first of all you should not have any guilt. You must forgive yourself. At the same time you should also forgive others. Is very important. Because if you don’t forgive others you play into their hands and bother yourself for their sake. So best thing is to forgive. Forgive them all, one and all. Now many say we can’t forgive. Actually you don’t do anything. What do you do if you don’t forgive? You are just torturing yourself. So best thing is you just feel within yourself, just say that I forgive every one of them, which will open out your throat chakra which is very important. That will open out completely your, also your Agnya chakra which is very important is the...within the optic chiasma you have this so this chakras are to be opened out by your saying only. It’s like a we can call it a mantra. Just by saying that I am forgiving everyone I want to forgive everyone. And I’ve forgiven everyone. Now you have to ask for it in your heart, ”Mother please give me my self-realization.” That’s all. You have to ask three times that’s all. Now keep your right hand towards me and left hand on top of your head. Now close your eyes. Top of your head over the fontanel bone area and don’t touch your head on top. Bend your head. Bend your head. Please bend your head. And see if there’s a cool or a hot breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Close your eyes and bend your head. See for yourself. You can move your hand and see. If it’s hot then means you have not yet forgiven. That’s important. But doesn’t matter. Even if it is hot it is alright. It’s throwing away all that ill feelings within you. So it’s hot. Now put the left hand towards... Now with the right hand…please bend your head. With the right hand you bend your head and see for yourself. You can move your hand up on the sides and see for yourself that there’s a cool or a hot breeze coming on you, in you, through you. But don’t doubt yourself. You all can get it. You all are quite capable of getting it. So don’t doubt yourself. Now raise your hands little higher. Open your eyes. Some of you are getting here and here. So you have to turn it upwards like this. If you are getting that way. From here to here. Doesn’t matter. Now see for yourself. Hands up.. Now all those who are getting cool or hot breeze on their fingers or on their palms or out of their heads anywhere, please raise your hands. All the journalists have got. Oh God. [UNCLEAR They should not/Thank you God…..] No they will work it out. Man: Shri Mataji: That’s it. That’s it you have to admit. He has got. You haven’t got? No see. Just put on your hand. Journalism!..(laughter by audience) You are not getting. Keep your feet on the ground. Your feet should be on the ground. Yes, now? It’s done, you have got it. No? Yes, just find out. Ok, they will help you, doesn’t matter. You know getting but you are doubting. Man:[UNCLEAR] Shri Mataji: Come along. Just see this. You are getting it? He’s got it. He’s got it. What about you? No? Now don’t doubt. Don’t doubt yourself is the main point. He is already realized. He is the…he’s brought all of them. He’s got it. Got it. Now believe in it. Believe in it. It is there. Why he is not getting himself? Indians get it very fast. But they don’t get established. Others get established. The reason is that they have great importance for it. It will happen son, will happen. He too has got it. What about you? You got it. What about you? Not yet? You think …do his right and left. Do his right to the left. How are you?

1998-1214 Public Program, The Revival of Indian Spirituality Now you are coming from different countries. I am very happy to see you all. Here also we have sahaja yogis from different countries who have come. Lucky that, that this time they are here and you are here. Many people come to India, all the time, from all over the world. And if you ask them they’d say we are seeking the truth. So why are you coming to India of all the places? They say that they have learned that the truth is in India, that we have to find out the truth. I must say that in our country also we have lots of falsehood and lots of false gurus have come up just to make money, to befool people and to some [UNCLEAR another/or the other] to destroy our relationships. But I must tell you that India is a very deep country and the knowledge of this country is not easy for a western mind to grab. Really to begin with because the reason is, the style of seeking knowledge in India is different, absolutely opposite of what you have in the West. First of all, in India, I mean those who are real seekers and those who want to know the reality they are the ones who see one point that this is [UNCLEAR relation] is written in our ancient books, described by great saints as you have also Sufis and all these people there and also prophets in the same way they believe that what they have written is the truth. But [(talking away from mike) Come in. Who are they?].. But they, Indians, don’t challenge it. They don’t use rationality to find out as in the West that [UNCLEAR and] think everything they start rationalizing. They don’t rationalize. What they do, they believe because it is told by the saints who are, who are above us. Who have reached a state which is much higher than (us). So now how to tally it, is the problem? So to tally it it is said that you have to get your self-realization or the second birth, as Mohammad sahib has talked about it that you have to have kiyama means you have to have your second birth. If you don’t have your second birth you are not yet a complete person. Once you have your second birth then you must become also a complete spiritual personality. Unless and until you are a complete personality you cannot judge these people or have experiments within. So when you reach that state of, I must say, the highest evolution within you then you can test it what they have said is the truth or not. But not at this human level. Because at this human level we are at the most what we are, mental. We are physical, emotional or mental. But we are not yet spiritual. Unless and until you are spiritual you cannot judge whether something is spiritual or not. All this kind of understanding, all this kind of basically built-with-in-us for thousands of years you see. Indians are not the people who can be taken to rationality which they think is very low type of judgment. They have to be in the spiritual realm, in the spiritual personality, to understand spirituality. Now from all over the world the spirituality is coming as you see but reality you can only find in India, I must say very humbly. The reason is, it has been a country for spirituality. Not for materialism. So the materialism has not grown so much. All other things have grown in this country. But for spirituality which it should have been. So people start thinking they are very superficial. They are. The modern generation is very superficial and they take to all western ideas, western things and western culture. But our culture is very, very much in the foundation of human beings, foundation. Like as you see now things are happening in the west. We start wondering how these things have happened. Is not allowed in any religion, is not allowed in any books or anything. Why people are behaving like this? The reason is they have no faith, actual faith. What they do is to just show off or to make a group. They make a what you can call, a group to say that we belong to this religion, that religion, that religion. But if you see the Indian philosophy you will find all the religions are exalted. All this, you can say, all the principles of this great religions are there. You cannot challenge it because it is so basically true. So basically true that when you see what is written say in Kuran we have a book here. I don’t know if I gave you that one. We have a very nice book Light of Kuran. So when they read kuran also they do not read it. When they read bible also they don’t read it. Because they are lost in the words and same things happening to Indians. Their, all their philosophies and all that they get lost into the words you see. So in the web of words everything is lost. As a result they do not reach to the principle that is described. That’s why we have problems with every other religion but there should be no problem, no problem. Because all religions are based on the same principle that we have to achieve our spiritual ascent. There’s no other goal. But according to time, you see, they had to put things this should not be done, that should not be done. All this is due to the time factor which came in their time and they had to tell about it according to the society in which they lived, according to the behavior of the people of that time. In India because it’s an ancient country, very ancient, somebody told me, Mother why don’t you write a book on Indian culture? No, I said, it’s an ocean. It’s not easy to describe and ocean. It’s an ocean and is very deep. But when imbibed and when understood and when you become spiritual within then it just sieves into you, just comes into you and it shows that every culture of every country is the same. But in Indian culture it’s very very clearly described. That’s the only thing [UNCLEAR there]. Same thing is described. I mean now say there’s, ah, say Clinton is now in trouble. In India he would have been thrown out long time back. You see, because the value system of morality is very well described in Indian culture. This is not moral and this is moral. And the ruler has to be absolutely a moral person. But in America, you see, is different. There as I said is perversion has come into the brains of people. And because they have money materialistic people try to follow American life, which is not congenial. If you go to America you will find it’s not congenial to human beings. It’s very destructive. People are very destructive. They have no love. They try to dominate. They have racialism. I mean they have all kinds of things. While we too have in our country lots of bad things have come because of the British rule which came here. Most of our bureaucrats are nothing but British. It’s surprising it is. That there behavior is like British. I don’t say something wrong with the British also. But one thing is there, this country has evolved for so many years and they tried to dominate us so much that none of our, I should say, literature could come up. So much has gone into darkness. The other day I had an ambassador here from Mexico and he told me what is the problem of Mexico. I said it’s the problem of psychiatry, psychology. He said, ‘’What do you mean?’’ I said,“In Sanskrit language we call it bhoot bhadha. Means, the obstruction from the past.” Now they don’t believe in a sort of a dead body or a dead person can invade human being. They don’t believe. Though Christ removed the, what you call, devils from the people like that. But they don’t believe. Even in Quran there is a mention like that. But that is aright in Quran. That is alright in bible. But as far as the belief in the human being there is, they don’t believe. Now if I tell them that the psychosomatic troubles comes from the left side attack, left side attack, that is from the past, from the things that have gone out of circulation from evolution or you can say dead bodies, the dead persons, the dead personalities they will just refuse it, to listen to it. But if unless and until you believe in it and you experiment with it how will you be able to eradicate this bad thing. So that is not only there. Every country has this problem. Every country even England is also full of it. I mean of course advance countries like America is much worse. To add up to that lots of false gurus went to America and have done this one. So on this point also people don’t want to agree. But whether you agree or not tomorrow you will have to come to it. Because if you want to get cured of your psychosomatic troubles, even cancer, even AIDS, all these diseases come only by the attack of these small small particles of these viruses which were left out of our circulation through evolution. That will be seen. That is a knowledge to be seen very clearly. Now in sahaja yoga many people have been cured of cancer, no doubt. Also of AIDS they are cured. So many people have been cured. It’s not, I am not telling you something false. But for that one has to understand that there is some power beyond us, something much beyond. Like Einstein himself has said that there is a kind of an area which he calls as torsion area which you will see in one of these things, torsion area which is beyond our human personality. He calls it, we have to be a vacuum ourselves. We should not exist anymore as physical, mental or emotional being. When you go beyond that if there is a vacuum then only you can feel the torsion area he’s clearly said it. But he was a realized soul himself. So whatever he says people want to doubt you see, whether it is this and that?. So with rationality we start doubting. But not to believe in Einstein shows how arrogant we are. After all Einstein is saying there must be some in it. Like that the whole world is going on and on a very superficial basis. Now our sahaja yoga is a very different thing. It is that we all human being have a special power, a residual power within us called kundalini which resides in the triangular bone which is called as sacrum. Now the sacrum bone means it’s the sacred. That means Greeks knew about it, that’s the sacred bone. And this power when it rises from here goes through the, we call it a sushumna nadi, the central path of the thing and pierces through the fontanel bone area then you get the actualization of baptism. Then you become a Muslim, then you become a Hindu otherwise you are not. So it has to come out of your fontanel bone area and has to go to that torsion area. [(question in hindi)UNCLEAR ] Uh? What is being brought? The chart, this is the chart. Can you all see this one? Or we should raise it a little more. Now it is said in our books that such and such power exists and it has to rise. It exists in every human being. Whether he is Indian or Egyptian, Black or White anything. If you are…as long as he is a human being he has this in the triangular bone down there. So it rises through these six centers. Your seventh centre is down below. And when it rises through the six centers it pieces through the fontanel bone area which we call as thousand petal center. That becomes one with the sutler energy which is surrounding us, which does all the living work. Now you see the beauty of the flowers. These flowers are made by whom? You’ll say the Mother Earth. But how is it that the Mother Earth does that? From where does She get the power? How do you run your heart? Ask a simple question. It is you run your heart because of the same power that is all pervading divine power of love. It’s a power of compassion and love. One should understand the basic. It’s not hatred, it’s not violence, it is love, it is compassion and this power works out on everything. It works out in such a manner that ones you get that you can feel it on your fingers all these centers. You can see clearly there are shown that on finger tips you can feel what is the centre that is catching. You can feel your own. Mohammad sahib has said very clearly, your hands will speak at the time of kiyama. At the time of last judgement we can call it or the last resurrection. Your, your hands will speak. Your hands will speak. That means they will show, your hands will show what centers you are catching. Can you imagine when He said that nobody tries to analyze how can our hands speak. But your hands will speak he has clearly said. And that is what happens to you that you see your fingers showing you whether you are catching this centre or this center or this centre. This is actualization. This is not just talking. This is not only just describing something but it happens to everyone and should happen. As a result what happens all these centers are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and spiritual being. So they all get enlightened. They get integrated. Also they are nourished. So all our physical, mental, emotional problems get solved and we become spiritual. Now whatever country you may belong to whatever religion you may belong to you have every right to become spiritual. And when you become that you will be amazed to see that so many qualities within us start showing. The first and foremost quality that comes to you is you get a new dimension in your awareness. And what is that is collective consciousness. You become collectivity conscious. Means you can feel another person. You know what’s the problem with that. With love not with anger, with love, you feel one with another person. Ones this happens all the quarrelsome things will disappear. The whole world can be changed and transformed. And you as people who are responsible for the media can do a lot. But for the media people it’s very difficult because they have got on top of them other bosses sitting, this that. And if they write anything like that may be that it may not be liked, it may not be appreciated. But you have to have courage. And you must write about the truth if you find it, if you get it you must write about it. As a result what happens, actually what happens is that we are made of sutler energy. When we talk that, this Mother Earth, there are five elements which we are made of. But these elements are made of sutler energies. Once you become that your sutler energy start manifesting. And with that sutler energy you start getting different types of things. For example, they say it is the word or we call it shabd and from there it is, the another thing that comes is the naad, is the sound. This is the beginning I am talking of. And with that sound ones you have the sound then from the sound all these five elements come one after another. But the first one that comes out is light. So such a person starts showing light. You have seen there. See the light is all over. That is the first thing, Tejaswa (glow). Shri Mataji talks to yogi: What is Tejasva called? Tejaswa is called? Take it out(in Hindi language) Yogi: Radiance. Shri Mataji: Huh? Yogi: Radiance. Shri Mataji: Radiance of light. Radiance of light. Radiance of light. So that you start… (Please remove this, it's not useful) can starts showing radiance of light around a person as they have shown auras and all that you must have seen. In so many people they show auras also. The artists have seen auras around realized souls. Then that from the same comes the second subtle thing is Vayu. Vayu, air. Yogi: Ether? Shri Mataji: No no, Vayu is air. That is cool breeze. So you start feeling the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost as they say. This is the second thing. These are all subtler things. Of the air. Subtler is vayu. So it starts. So all subtler energies start showing. From the Jal (water)... Of the water also subtler... Leave it. Doesn't matter. I will hold it. So from water also you get a sutler thing of Jal. Jal is, we can call it as moisture. But moisture is not subtle. But a moisturous person. What happens with the moisture that your body becomes soft. Your know you put moisturising thing you body will become, your face becomes subtler. And dryness doesn’t come and your youth is preserved. At Least you look young. Your aging doesn’t come. Like that everything starts showing. Then Agni is for..huh?.. Yogi: Fire. Shri Mataji: Yeah Fire. Then the fire. See such a person is fire. But he doesn’t use because of love that’s very much…But fire can be used for two purposes. One is for burning out something and one for cooking food and doing things. So such person can create wonderful types of foods and interested in giving good food to people. And that food has vibrations. If the food of such a person has vibrations because it was cooked with that love, and passion, compassion. So that you take that food and you become a it can call a very tranquil person. Satisfied, you get with that very much satisfied. Now ones you people become satisfied materialism will be finished. Materialism will have no sense because what is it today you buy something then you go and buy another thing. Isn’t it? It is, all the time you are dissatisfied. Today you want to have a table and tomorrow you want to have a sofa, then you want to have a car, you want to have a...endless…That finishes and you become very much satisfied.. If you buy a table you will enjoy it. You buy a sofa you will enjoy it. You meet somebody you will enjoy it. So this particular nature that human being have is what you call a greed finishes. And he is a satisfied soul. He is a happy soul. And he enjoys himself. This is happening with the agni tattwa. Because this fire becomes a very silent, beautiful satisfying fire. In the subtle form when you get. Then there is jal tattwa (water principle), is the water. Water which is being vibrated, which has got vibrations can cure you. But normally you take any water it’s not going to cure you. But water which is vibrated by some saint or something can cure you. And also you must have heard of many places where they have waterfalls which…waterfalls which what you can call are curative type. All this is the sutler side of these five elements. Then the Mother Earth, certain places are we call it as very sacred, for example Mecca. Now what is so special about Mecca. It’s a stone there, that’s all. What is so special? The special according to our puranas, our old literature, it’s Makkeshwar Shiv itself. The God has come in the form of that stone according to Indian descriptions. You can imagine we have many Shivas and out of them one is Mecca. So but to prohibit Hindus to go there is wrong because they believe in Shiva and there is the Shiva there sitting down. Like that we have all the, all the elements go into transformations and they become subtle. And human beings also become subtle. So they understand [that] there is no difference between a person living in this country or that country or that country. So all your political problems can be solved. Supposing you give realization to Arafat and to this new president of Israel. No problem. If Israelis and Palestinians are given realization, no problem. They all can live very happily. And there will be no problem because they will see the oneness the subtlety that comes is that you feel the collectiveness. You feel one with everyone. And this is the new, we should say, transformation we are waiting for. That means sahaja yoga is working very fast all over but it’s not very advertising type I must admit, cause I don’t like too much of advertisement myself. But it advertises by itself. By itself. And the truth about it is that people have experimented and experienced. Now in a place, farfetched place like Leningrad in Russia, when I went there I was surprised that we had put one or two photographs here and there I think may not be even in the newspaper. And they were two thousand people who filled the hall. There they filled…they had limited capacity. We have to pay for the hall …for the hall people. So outside there were two thousand sitting I said how is it…How do you… you are all here? For what? They said, ”Mother, to listen to you.” Then I went inside and said alright let me finish these people and let me finish my lecture. When I came out you will be amazed they were still sitting. I said what is it? They said, ‘’Mother we are waiting for our self realization. I said, “Alright you come tomorrow all of you and I will give you self-realization.” You won’t believe all these two thousand inside two thousand outside. There’s a very big…This is one thing about Russia, they have huge big compounds so many came and also one thousand more perhaps. They all came and we all sat down. They sat on the grass and I sat on the steps and I talked to them and pin drop (silence). And all of them are still sahaja yogis, growing very much. I was amazed at how these people are attracted. What has made them come? So they said Mother so obvious, your face. My face I did not think it was that much to [UNCLEAR work up]…..Yes, we just saw your photograph and finished. We know. Now what has happened with them is that with communism they are very much suppressed. They couldn’t express themselves too much. They didn’t have that freedom. So they sought their freedom inside. They grew inside. While when we have so called freedom you go, you see, into abandonment. You do all kinds of things in the name of freedom. Human beings have too much freedom when they are in the so called democracy. So then they can, even, can become demons. You see in democracy you can become a, you see, demonic. So that can happen, but in Russia I was surprised and so many we have now sahaja yogis. I mean I have, I don’t know countless. Cannot count them as such. Surprising that that country has got so many. And they are very satisfied souls. So whatever has happened I told them aren’t you worried about your political problems. No Mother. I said why. We are in the kingdom of God. Why should we worry? See this satisfaction. In the kingdom of God we are. Why should we worry that what’s happening in Russia. See this kind of a mind of thousands of people. See it’s not just a false satisfaction. But factual I think…They are having lots of other things with them. For example, the vegetable growth has gone up. They have everything in that country. But the management is so bad that they are poor supposed to be. But they are not. Actually they have lots of things that many countries don’t have. But inside I was surprised that people in Russia are the most sensitive. May be they were so oppressed and so troubled. So this oppression has gone in the proper way there that they developed this kind of a sensitivity to spirituality. In our country also we were very much suppressed but instead of getting into the same mode as the Russians have we have tried to become Britishers you know. We are very slavish. Because one women comes from there who is very fair from Italy and we are all surrendered to her. Such slavery of fair complexion I have never seen before. But it shows our basic slavish mentality. And that’s why we have closed all our old books our knowledge into seed. We are not bothered to see that. And we are incapable of going into it and finding out what is so great about our country. It’s so much encompassing the whole universe. And what we can give them the highest that is the spirituality which they don’t have. Now because they have gone into materialism fully. But all our books all our literature has gone into waste. Nobody wants to read about it, nobody wants to know about it. Now with sahaja yog there is a revival in a way because we have a hospital now, regular hospital, where people are treating all kinds of incurable diseases. But is so simple no medicine nothing, raising your kundalini, finished. You raise the kundalini and you get it. You don’t have to waste money on medicines because what is medicine today. When I was studying medicine, they had to learn each and every medicine and we had to write a proper what you call a complete serial number of all these and a compounder had to make it. But now you see this, all these companies are making what you call antibiotics. For everything happens to there’s an antibiotic. They are not bothered as to how it affects you what if it bothers you. And it has become like that now. We have become so industrialized you see, doctors...that it is difficult for people to get out of it. Sahaja yoga we don’t give any antibiotics. We don’t give any antibiotics. Not at all. We don’t give any. Only kundalini rising and vibrated water and all that. Diagnosis also is such a big one overall. I mean if you go for diagnosis you come out half dead out of that diagnosis. Such a person… In sahaja yoga you can get it on the finger tips. Even children can tell you what’s wrong with you, if you are a realized soul. So such a great science is lost in this country because of a British rule we had. They never bothered to find out what was deep down into this country, such a knowledge, such a treasure of knowledge. So it happens also such that I met him in a very…. different circumstances and he was very helpful and he only told me. “How is he here?”, I said. He said, “We are, so many of us are here.. and who are...who have come for this conference and..” So I was very happy. And he said, “They would like to meet you Mother.” So I said,” Alright alright I would love to meet them and talk to them about it.” Now as you are all, what you can call, journalists used to questions, I would like you to ask me questions. Doesn’t matter. I mean, sit here, Sit here. Man: Hi, I have already seen Mataji at Kathmandu. Because I am from Nepal. And I would like to ask Matajii how do you find the..about religion..how they treat upon religion. What’s your views? Shri Mataji: How do you treat upon..? Man: Yeah upon religion. Yeah Shri Mataji: You see reasoning is done by your brain isn’t it..so called. But actually it’s not brain so much I should say but your conditioning and your ego. They give you the reasoning. This is the reason, this is the reason this is.. but you reach nowhere. You reach nowhere. You go on reasoning, reasoning, reasoning. You will go mad but you cannot reach to the point. But if you can stop reasoning and try to see if there’s another way out without reasoning, then this kundalini rises in an ancient way and can happen to all of you. There’s no problem. And ones you get it then you start understanding that there’s a..another system beyond us which guides us, which helps us. So the reasoning takes you nowhere. All the problem of today is because of reasoning. Lady: You speak of a hospital where people are not given medication. But they are healed. Can you tell me more about that? Shri Mataji: You are healed…Saying what? Yogi: Asking how are people healed in hospital? Shri Mataji: I told you just now. You see, these are the centers which look after our material side and also our physical welfare. So once it rises, this kundalini She nourishes those centers. Now I’ll tell you example you say of cancer. Yogi: Hello, Hello, Hello Shri Mataji: Now..say, these centers are formed, as you know, within us we have autonomous nervous system. And autonomous nervous system has got three channels, the center one and the two others. So very little is known about this parasympathetic nervous system. About the medical science they know very little. From the left and the right, say for example, these two forces coming and form the central path. In this resides the, we should say, the energy for the particular area, alright? Now what happens we start using this either on the right or the left, say for the journalist it’s more the right side they use. Because they have to think, futuristic you see all that. Now you start using them too much on this side. So you start moving like this. And there is exhaustion of the energy also. So what happens suddenly, something happens in life, some accident, something, some emotional problem so the left side which is the emotional side just gets out. So as a result you lose your connection with the whole. With the whole you lose. So you become working on your own. So you become malignant. This malignancy is the thing that works as cancer. With kundalini what She does, She goes here just like a tread and then She goes here, She brings them together. And then she nourishes them. So you get cured. Lady: So how do you personally reach that stage. You talked about the spirituality. Shri Mataji: Yeah Lady: How do you? Shri Mataji: That’s why I am saying that your kundalini has to be awakened. First that has to happen. Then you must have faith in yourself that you can work it out. If you are diffident or oh I am …See all there are all kinds of people there. They are people who are very guilty. Like, how can I get it? I have done this thing, I have done that thing. That’s one type which catches this centre. Another kind are very arrogant. They catch on this side you see. So this has to be corrected. Man: The vibrated water. Shri Mataji: Huh? Man: The vibrated water. You spoke about vibrated water. Where does it come from? Shri Mataji: It comes from people who have vibrations. Those who are realized their souls have vibrations. They can feel the cool breeze in their hands. Even if they put hand in the water it is vibrated. All such people, saints and all that, whatever water comes from them is vibrated. For example the river, Ganga here, Ganges is, has got vibrations. I mean, you have to become that then you can feel it, right? Unless and until you have that, subtle within you, you cannot feel it. To you everybody is just the same. Every bottle is just the same. I’ll give you an example. I went to Kashmir and suddenly I felt. We were going out somewhere actually [UNCLEAR Nibwel]. Lots of vibration. So I asked the driver, What do you have a temple here, something? How do I feel the vibrations? He said we don’t have any temple here. I said, “Alright, I will tell you, go this way.” That’s the (side) vibrations were coming. We went that way. There were some Muslim houses some very poor people. So I asked them, “What do you have here?” So he said, “It’s the Hazrat Bal.” One hair of Mohammad Sahab was kept. [UNCLEAR]…I get vibration. But these stupid people, they did not know anything, what it was. They are fighting for it and they..also the driver didn’t know what it was. And for five miles, before five miles I felt the vibrations. So whatever I say has to be tested on vibration which is your own, which is your own testing capacity. The capacity otherwise is blunt, it doesn’t give you the real picture. But supposing have vibrations you can feel it. Who has got it? Where you have it? It’s a very subtle thing but once it is there it works. Man: How does one attain such a state where you can? Yogi: How can one attain this state. Shri Mataji: It’s very simple. You can all attain it here only. Very simple. Now what has happened is that, I would say, that in the 12th century [1200s] in this country, up to that time we had a group of people called as Nagpanthis. I mean we had all this all over the world. There have been so many Nabis. But in this country we had. And there it was a law I would say, traditional, that one person could give realization to another person, only one, one to one. Then, you see, there was a great poet called Gyanadeva, Gyaneshwara. He wrote all this at the age of 23 you can imagine, what he must be. And he asked his guru that he should permit him to at least write about it. So in his book Gyaneshwari he wrote. On the sixth chapter he wrote about it, that such and such energy he sees and all that. But nobody used to give realization. Then in the sixteenth century there were many poets who wrote about it. I mean Guru Nanaka wrote about it, Kabira wrote about it, everybody. But nobody understood what they wrote because see normally people didn’t know what they were talking about. And after that sixteenth century it became yet still the same problem that one guru would give it to another. So when I was born...I was born I was myself a realized soul and my father himself was a saint. He told me as you know that is your mission is, to find out a way to give self realization am masse. So I worked it out myself. I by chance or I should...by luck my father was a very social person and I met many of his people. My husband too very social and I used to study human beings what’s the matter. Why can’t they get realization? So if I’ve done anything it is this that I’ve discovered a method by which am mass realization can be (done). And that’s how thousands can get realization at a time. Man: [UNCLEAR So]….can we experience that? Shri Mataji: Alright, they can all have it. You see so many sahaja yogis sitting here, no problem. Alright. Only thing you have to do is take out the shoes. Not the socks but the shoes. Will be better that way. Alright put both the feet apart from each other. Now just put your both the hands towards me like that. It is not mesmerism because I close my eyes you see. They mesmerize with the eyes. And don’t doubt. Just now don’t doubt yourself. It’s the main thing. How can I get it? I have done this wrong. I have done that wrong. So as first of all you should not have any guilt. You must forgive yourself. At the same time you should also forgive others. Is very important. Because if you don’t forgive others you play into their hands and bother yourself for their sake. So best thing is to forgive. Forgive them all, one and all. Now many say we can’t forgive. Actually you don’t do anything. What do you do if you don’t forgive? You are just torturing yourself. So best thing is you just feel within yourself, just say that I forgive every one of them, which will open out your throat chakra which is very important. That will open out completely your, also your Agnya chakra which is very important is the...within the optic chiasma you have this so this chakras are to be opened out by your saying only. It’s like a we can call it a mantra. Just by saying that I am forgiving everyone I want to forgive everyone. And I’ve forgiven everyone. Now you have to ask for it in your heart, ”Mother please give me my self-realization.” That’s all. You have to ask three times that’s all. Now keep your right hand towards me and left hand on top of your head. Now close your eyes. Top of your head over the fontanel bone area and don’t touch your head on top. Bend your head. Bend your head. Please bend your head. And see if there’s a cool or a hot breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Close your eyes and bend your head. See for yourself. You can move your hand and see. If it’s hot then means you have not yet forgiven. That’s important. But doesn’t matter. Even if it is hot it is alright. It’s throwing away all that ill feelings within you. So it’s hot. Now put the left hand towards... Now with the right hand…please bend your head. With the right hand you bend your head and see for yourself. You can move your hand up on the sides and see for yourself that there’s a cool or a hot breeze coming on you, in you, through you. But don’t doubt yourself. You all can get it. You all are quite capable of getting it. So don’t doubt yourself. Now raise your hands little higher. Open your eyes. Some of you are getting here and here. So you have to turn it upwards like this. If you are getting that way. From here to here. Doesn’t matter. Now see for yourself. Hands up.. Now all those who are getting cool or hot breeze on their fingers or on their palms or out of their heads anywhere, please raise your hands. All the journalists have got. Oh God. [UNCLEAR They should not/Thank you God…..] No they will work it out. Man: Shri Mataji: That’s it. That’s it you have to admit. He has got. You haven’t got? No see. Just put on your hand. Journalism!..(laughter by audience) You are not getting. Keep your feet on the ground. Your feet should be on the ground. Yes, now? It’s done, you have got it. No? Yes, just find out. Ok, they will help you, doesn’t matter. You know getting but you are doubting. Man:[UNCLEAR] Shri Mataji: Come along. Just see this. You are getting it? He’s got it. He’s got it. What about you? No? Now don’t doubt. Don’t doubt yourself is the main point. He is already realized. He is the…he’s brought all of them. He’s got it. Got it. Now believe in it. Believe in it. It is there. Why he is not getting himself? Indians get it very fast. But they don’t get established. Others get established. The reason is that they have great importance for it. It will happen son, will happen. He too has got it. What about you? You got it. What about you? Not yet? You think …do his right and left. Do his right to the left. How are you?

12/16/1998

http://amruta.org/?p=4503

Expression of Subtle Elements

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"Expression of Five Elements on a Sahaja Yogi". Delhi (India), 16 December 1998. I have been telling them that the style of Indian knowledge is very different from the Western mind. In the West, you see, if you say something, then they want to have an experimental approval. They will go to the scientists or to other people who are equipped with knowledge to know what they said in these books is true or not. They will even judge Christ. They would even judge Moses. They would judge everybody as if they are the most intelligent and the most capable people. And they write books after books against them disclosing as if they are those people who have said something, have said out of their minds or something.It is never accepted normally and if it is accepted they become absolutely fanatics. So, now according to Indian style of understanding is that first of all if a great Rishi or great Muni or a great… you can call a saint has said something, then he has said it, while you have to just listen to that because you are not equally the same. Whatever he has said is his own experience, his own knowledge and you have no business to judge him or to say this is not true, that is not true. You accept it and once you get your self-realization, it is clearly written down after self-realization, you have to grow. Grow into perfect being and then you can see for yourself what he has said or they have said is the truth. So the approach is different. In one way if you start going through science, through this, through that, you cannot reach anywhere and moreover your growth is stunted. So, what you have to do is to go to this knowledge through believing in what they have said. Whatever Christ has said, you have to believe, whatever Mohammad has said, you have to believe, whatever Guru Nanak has said, you have to believe, whatever Gyandeva has said, you have to believe, Lao Tse you have to believe: like that. Because you are not of that spiritual level. So accept it. Now do not try to analyze it. Everything you try to analyze and in that analysis you get lost. So once you are a realized soul of that level and then you grow into your fullness – what we call sampurna – then only you will know whether whatever they have said is true or not and then you can find out. It is very easy, then, to know whatever is said is true or not. For Sahaja Yogis now is very easy to find out if something is real or unreal, if it is truth or untruth, it is love or hatred. Only through vibrations you can do. But going beyond that, I may say, beyond that one has to know what are these vibrations and what are they made of. What is the subtle force which is behind those vibrations. We call it Paramchaitanya, alright. Paramchaitanya, so what. What happens to you when you get Paramchaitanya, is something to be understood, the subtleties. As I said, we are made of five elements, alright? So when you get your awakening, when the Kundalini reaches Sahasrara and opens out your fontanel bone area, you become one with the Divine power, then this Divine power itself starts flowing through you. A connection is established. Now when it starts flowing through you, this Shakti starts flowing through you, then what happens? The subtle part we should understand. The subtle part is like this, that these five elements, we are made of, these vibrations gradually start breaking into the subtler form of which they are made. So the first thing such a person has is the breaks, you see, as it is said that “Word is God.” It’s said also in the Bible, “The Word is God.” Now what is this Word? Word is a silent, we can say, silent commandment. We can call it like that.But from that Word comes, according to Indian Philosophy, is another thing that we call as “Bindu”... or we can say if Word becomes Naad, is a sound... and then it becomes the Bindu means one small dot, and then from this dot... you see, all these five elements start coming one after another.The first element that comes out is light... “Tej” light ... is the first element that comes out. So the essence of the first element is light. We call it Tej, Tejas. It is written, of course, in Sanskrit but we should understand that how the light pervades Sahaja Yoga so much and you see the light everywhere. So the first element which is light and you can say in English the light's subtle thing is, we can say, “enlightenment”, you can say. But enlightenment has another meaning, so we can say it is Tej, Tej. For example a person who gets realization has a face which is very radiant, so you can say the “radiance”. The radiance is the subtlety of the light. So this radiance starts showing on your face. Radiance starts expressing itself and with that radiance people get impressed and they start thinking something special about this personality which has a radiance.Now you have seen my photographs also wherever they are, many a times you find lots of light around. That is nothing but the light in me is giving radiance because the light becomes subtler. When the light becomes subtle in me, – light, light is one of the elements – when it becomes subtler then it gives radiance and so this is the subtle growth within you that takes place. Your faces also start shining. They too have radiance and they too have a kind of a different complexion, I would say. This radiance is to be understood, is the subtle of the light of which we are made, light in the gross manner. Then after this from the light comes the second thing, which we call as Vayu in Sanskrit, meaning the air. So the air that we have which is gross air, what is subtle of air is the “cool breeze” that you get. The cool breeze is the subtle of that air. So the subtle of what you understand as cool breeze is what we call vibrations, the subtle of that is air; which is a part and parcel of our making. So this cool breeze is the second thing that you start getting subtler and subtler. When your growth takes place, all these subtle things start expressing themselves. It is not only that you get vibrations but you get the cool breeze and that is the subtler of air that has built you up. Then comes the Water. We are also made of water. What is the subtle of water is… sometimes English language, you know, becomes little short of expressions… but they call it…I mean which makes the skin, hard skin soft. The skin becomes soft. This is another sign of a realized soul that his... there is some cream they use, isn’t it, to soften the face. But this is the water in us, gives us that luster, that nourishment to make our skin very soft and that softness of the skin becomes very visible. This is the minimum of minimum, I would say. But then a person who is a realized soul becomes very soft person, very delicate. When he talks to some body, in his voice there is warmth or I should say there is… [Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi]... to have that flow, watery flow and coolness of the water. So that is the another subtle thing that should be expressed in your behavior, on your skin, on your dealings with others, that you should be like the water, which is mobile, which is cooling, which is soothing, which is cleansing. So this also becomes a part and parcel of your being, once you become a realized soul. With this water you have also another thing which we call it as Agni, means the fire. So you also have fire but it is a very silent fire. It does not burn anybody but it burns all the wrong things within you. Whatever wrong things you have it burns and it burns the wrong things in other people also. For example, a person comes with a great anger towards me. What happens that this anger becomes cooler with the fire that is there. Moreover, a realized soul cannot get burnt, fire cannot burn, the burning cannot come to him. It is very important to understand. Also if you are doing something wrong, it may burn you but if you are a good Sahaja Yogi and I should say, perfect Sahaja Yogi, fire will never burn you. We have an example of Sita Ji that she went into the fire Pariksha… nothing burnt. So this is what one has to understand, that once you get to the subtleties of the fire, so the fire and the water both of them become sort of Divine.For example, the water which you touch, water you drink, whatever you put your hand in the water, the water becomes vibrated. Means What? The subtleties of the water comes in it, the coolness, curing power also comes in that water. So when it becomes subtler, all these powers start showing which you can see for yourself. You do not have to experiment.Then the lastly is the Mother Earth... is most important... is Mother Earth. There is a photograph you might see which was taken in Russia in My Dacha where the Kundalini is in the Mother Earth. They have shown clearly. It is there and it is the Mother Earth which shows. For example, I have seen flowers, if you keep them in my room, they blossom. They can become very big like that, never people have seen such big flowers, sometimes they say. I am doing nothing. I am just sitting down and what happens to the flowers? You see now there this principle of the Mother Earth works… the subtle Mother Earth, is works, it’s a mother. And that gives you all the nourishment and makes you grow healthy, and this is how this subtlety of the Mother Earth works.Mother Earth is the one who is giver of virtue to all these flowers and to all these trees and to all that, but it also plays a big part in us. It is not only the Mother Earth that exists without our connection and we do not respect the Mother Earth. We have polluted it, we have done all kinds of things, we have removed the trees and we have made a mess out of her, but she is our Mother and so many subtle things of this Mother Earth come into us. One of them is gravity. A person becomes very attractive, not in the physical sense but in the spiritual sense. Such a person attracts others. They feel attrackted and they feel that something special is about this person. This is one of the qualities of the Mother Earth. If she had not kept us attracted we would have fallen off with her movement and also other qualities of the Mother Earth start manifesting within us, and we become very, I should say, extremely tolerant, patient… person. Tolerant and patient… extremely tolerant and patient. But if you are not tolerant, if you are hot tempered and all that, then Mother Earth's principle is not expressed I should say. Look at the Mother Earth. How much she tolerates our nonsense, how many wrong things we do against her, but still she tolerates. Sri Ganesha's quality is to tolerate, to begin with. Up to a point, he tolerates. In the same way we too become extremely tolerant, patient and forgiving.This is the minimum of minimum that should happen to all the Sahajayogis who have vibrations, because now I have told you all the things that are expressed in your vibrations. It is a thing to be understood that what you have become now is something very great, it has not happened to others, it has not happened to somebody who is not being a Sahaja Yogi. You see the people who go to Church or to Mosques or to Temple, see their faces. Look at them, how do they look like? They haven’t got anything from the Temple, they haven’t got anything from the Mosque, they haven’t got anything from any one of these places where they go to worship. So, that is artificial. That has become something, I should say, without any connection with the reality. Only after realization you are connected with reality and you can get the understanding of all these subtleties working through you. Why I am telling you this, because I want you to know and recognize yourself, to understand what you are, what you have got. Once you recognize yourself and understand yourself you can do a lot. First of all to say that I am a Sahaja Yogi itself it should be very much with self confidence and as a self confident person should find out what have I done as Sahaja Yogi? What can I do as Sahaja Yogi? Some Sahaja Yogis have done wonders. They have done such a lot of work of Sahaja Yoga, while some Sahaja Yogis are still writing to me that “my husband is fighting with me, my son is like this, my mother like this”; all the time, you see, letters after letters come to me. You are a Sahaja Yogi. Now you just see to your subtleties, work it out. They think I am here to solve their problems, their family problems, and their jobs and things. I am not here for that. I am here to give you self-realization and the understanding that whatever you have got, you must accept as a challenge, take it up as a challenge and you will be amazed, how you will be helped and how you will get the results! “Sahaja” does not mean only that you get spontaneous realization. It also means that you get spontaneity. The whole nature gets spontaneity. All these subtle things that I have told you, they also get spontaneous and they work it out. Of course, there are Angels and there are Ganas who are helping you but you need not worry about them just now. Main thing is you must realize what you are, what have you got and how much you have faced it, you have got it and how it has worked? I have seen every time I just have a little problem of something, immediately it works. It works in such quarters and such people that I never expected. Everything works out. But whatever works out is for your good, is for your growth, for your understanding that you are a Sahaja Yogi. You have entered into the Kingdom of God, but this you have to develop. Also, introspection can tell you that are you working out all those things or not? If you take to introspection, you will be surprised to see, yes, you have these powers and you can do wonders. So I bless you all, please develop those subtle things within you. They are already there; you do not have to do anything. Only understand and locate. Thank you very much. Translation from Hindi: Those who are searching the truth, my salutations to all those seekers. We all are searching for the truth. But, in which place should we search that, where should we search that, Where is this truth hiding, should be understood in the first place. In foreign countries also I noticed that many great Sufis where born, and they all spoke about Sahaja, totally about Sahaja. But, no one respects them there. Their recognition is very less there. Very few people recognize them and entertain themselves by reading their (Sufis') poetries. But, they do not follow the path mentioned by Sufis. Like this, in every country, many great Sufis are born. In England also, a great saint William Blake was born. But no one used to listen to him. Even I have never heard his name in my college days also. But I knew that he existed. When I went to London, I purchased his book for the first time. Attaining self-realization has become very easy through Sahaja Yoga, for everyone. There is no such thing in this, that "you stand on your head", or "you abandon your family", or "leave your children", no need to do anything like this. This energy is present right inside you. Within you, in a triangular bone, this energy is present. It is not just that I am telling you, People have been talking about it since time immemorial. Now, kindly keep both your hands towards me. Now, keep this hand (left hand) towards me, and right hand on top of your fontanel bone, which was a soft bone in your infancy? Keep your hand above that bone. Right hand. Now keep your right hand towards me and left hand above your head. Again, keep above your fontanel bone. That is, not on your head, but above it. Now check, if you are getting any cool breeze from your head. Some people may get the breeze much above the head, some may get in front of the head, and some may get behind the head, rotate your hand and check. Now, left hand towards me and right hand on top of your head and see that cool breeze is coming out. It's coming. It is possible that you are getting a hot breeze also. Because you have to forgive everyone. Do forgive each and every one. If you don't forgive, then you will get a hot breeze. If you don't forgive, then what do you do? Nothing. You are only troubling yourself. So, it's better to forgive everyone, then you will get a very cool breeze. Forgive yourself also. "I have done this mistake", "I have done that sin", don't think anything like this. Forgive yourself also completely. Now keep both your hands towards me. Please put both the hands towards me. Now, who ever got a cool breeze in both their hands or hot breeze, please raise both hands up. From this end, to that end? My infinite blessings to you all. My blessings to all of you. You all have achieved it now. Your seed has germinated. You have to make a big tree out of this. And if all of you grow into big trees, then what can be better? After that, how long can this kalyug last? "Satya yug" is anyways coming. But its Radiance has not spread yet. You people are going to Show light towards Satya Yug. Now I am very confident that you are going to spread Sahaja Yoga. Each man can give realization to 1000 men, and each woman can give realization to 1000 women. And everyone should try and give realization to all others, everyone else. My blessings to you all. In the end, we all will sing "Vande Mataram". All of you stand up for that.

"Expression of Five Elements on a Sahaja Yogi". Delhi (India), 16 December 1998. I have been telling them that the style of Indian knowledge is very different from the Western mind. In the West, you see, if you say something, then they want to have an experimental approval. They will go to the scientists or to other people who are equipped with knowledge to know what they said in these books is true or not. They will even judge Christ. They would even judge Moses. They would judge everybody as if they are the most intelligent and the most capable people. And they write books after books against them disclosing as if they are those people who have said something, have said out of their minds or something.It is never accepted normally and if it is accepted they become absolutely fanatics. So, now according to Indian style of understanding is that first of all if a great Rishi or great Muni or a great… you can call a saint has said something, then he has said it, while you have to just listen to that because you are not equally the same. Whatever he has said is his own experience, his own knowledge and you have no business to judge him or to say this is not true, that is not true. You accept it and once you get your self-realization, it is clearly written down after self-realization, you have to grow. Grow into perfect being and then you can see for yourself what he has said or they have said is the truth. So the approach is different. In one way if you start going through science, through this, through that, you cannot reach anywhere and moreover your growth is stunted. So, what you have to do is to go to this knowledge through believing in what they have said. Whatever Christ has said, you have to believe, whatever Mohammad has said, you have to believe, whatever Guru Nanak has said, you have to believe, whatever Gyandeva has said, you have to believe, Lao Tse you have to believe: like that. Because you are not of that spiritual level. So accept it. Now do not try to analyze it. Everything you try to analyze and in that analysis you get lost. So once you are a realized soul of that level and then you grow into your fullness – what we call sampurna – then only you will know whether whatever they have said is true or not and then you can find out. It is very easy, then, to know whatever is said is true or not. For Sahaja Yogis now is very easy to find out if something is real or unreal, if it is truth or untruth, it is love or hatred. Only through vibrations you can do. But going beyond that, I may say, beyond that one has to know what are these vibrations and what are they made of. What is the subtle force which is behind those vibrations. We call it Paramchaitanya, alright. Paramchaitanya, so what. What happens to you when you get Paramchaitanya, is something to be understood, the subtleties. As I said, we are made of five elements, alright? So when you get your awakening, when the Kundalini reaches Sahasrara and opens out your fontanel bone area, you become one with the Divine power, then this Divine power itself starts flowing through you. A connection is established. Now when it starts flowing through you, this Shakti starts flowing through you, then what happens? The subtle part we should understand. The subtle part is like this, that these five elements, we are made of, these vibrations gradually start breaking into the subtler form of which they are made. So the first thing such a person has is the breaks, you see, as it is said that “Word is God.” It’s said also in the Bible, “The Word is God.” Now what is this Word? Word is a silent, we can say, silent commandment. We can call it like that.But from that Word comes, according to Indian Philosophy, is another thing that we call as “Bindu”... or we can say if Word becomes Naad, is a sound... and then it becomes the Bindu means one small dot, and then from this dot... you see, all these five elements start coming one after another.The first element that comes out is light... “Tej” light ... is the first element that comes out. So the essence of the first element is light. We call it Tej, Tejas. It is written, of course, in Sanskrit but we should understand that how the light pervades Sahaja Yoga so much and you see the light everywhere. So the first element which is light and you can say in English the light's subtle thing is, we can say, “enlightenment”, you can say. But enlightenment has another meaning, so we can say it is Tej, Tej. For example a person who gets realization has a face which is very radiant, so you can say the “radiance”. The radiance is the subtlety of the light. So this radiance starts showing on your face. Radiance starts expressing itself and with that radiance people get impressed and they start thinking something special about this personality which has a radiance.Now you have seen my photographs also wherever they are, many a times you find lots of light around. That is nothing but the light in me is giving radiance because the light becomes subtler. When the light becomes subtle in me, – light, light is one of the elements – when it becomes subtler then it gives radiance and so this is the subtle growth within you that takes place. Your faces also start shining. They too have radiance and they too have a kind of a different complexion, I would say. This radiance is to be understood, is the subtle of the light of which we are made, light in the gross manner. Then after this from the light comes the second thing, which we call as Vayu in Sanskrit, meaning the air. So the air that we have which is gross air, what is subtle of air is the “cool breeze” that you get. The cool breeze is the subtle of that air. So the subtle of what you understand as cool breeze is what we call vibrations, the subtle of that is air; which is a part and parcel of our making. So this cool breeze is the second thing that you start getting subtler and subtler. When your growth takes place, all these subtle things start expressing themselves. It is not only that you get vibrations but you get the cool breeze and that is the subtler of air that has built you up. Then comes the Water. We are also made of water. What is the subtle of water is… sometimes English language, you know, becomes little short of expressions… but they call it…I mean which makes the skin, hard skin soft. The skin becomes soft. This is another sign of a realized soul that his... there is some cream they use, isn’t it, to soften the face. But this is the water in us, gives us that luster, that nourishment to make our skin very soft and that softness of the skin becomes very visible. This is the minimum of minimum, I would say. But then a person who is a realized soul becomes very soft person, very delicate. When he talks to some body, in his voice there is warmth or I should say there is… [Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi]... to have that flow, watery flow and coolness of the water. So that is the another subtle thing that should be expressed in your behavior, on your skin, on your dealings with others, that you should be like the water, which is mobile, which is cooling, which is soothing, which is cleansing. So this also becomes a part and parcel of your being, once you become a realized soul. With this water you have also another thing which we call it as Agni, means the fire. So you also have fire but it is a very silent fire. It does not burn anybody but it burns all the wrong things within you. Whatever wrong things you have it burns and it burns the wrong things in other people also. For example, a person comes with a great anger towards me. What happens that this anger becomes cooler with the fire that is there. Moreover, a realized soul cannot get burnt, fire cannot burn, the burning cannot come to him. It is very important to understand. Also if you are doing something wrong, it may burn you but if you are a good Sahaja Yogi and I should say, perfect Sahaja Yogi, fire will never burn you. We have an example of Sita Ji that she went into the fire Pariksha… nothing burnt. So this is what one has to understand, that once you get to the subtleties of the fire, so the fire and the water both of them become sort of Divine.For example, the water which you touch, water you drink, whatever you put your hand in the water, the water becomes vibrated. Means What? The subtleties of the water comes in it, the coolness, curing power also comes in that water. So when it becomes subtler, all these powers start showing which you can see for yourself. You do not have to experiment.Then the lastly is the Mother Earth... is most important... is Mother Earth. There is a photograph you might see which was taken in Russia in My Dacha where the Kundalini is in the Mother Earth. They have shown clearly. It is there and it is the Mother Earth which shows. For example, I have seen flowers, if you keep them in my room, they blossom. They can become very big like that, never people have seen such big flowers, sometimes they say. I am doing nothing. I am just sitting down and what happens to the flowers? You see now there this principle of the Mother Earth works… the subtle Mother Earth, is works, it’s a mother. And that gives you all the nourishment and makes you grow healthy, and this is how this subtlety of the Mother Earth works.Mother Earth is the one who is giver of virtue to all these flowers and to all these trees and to all that, but it also plays a big part in us. It is not only the Mother Earth that exists without our connection and we do not respect the Mother Earth. We have polluted it, we have done all kinds of things, we have removed the trees and we have made a mess out of her, but she is our Mother and so many subtle things of this Mother Earth come into us. One of them is gravity. A person becomes very attractive, not in the physical sense but in the spiritual sense. Such a person attracts others. They feel attrackted and they feel that something special is about this person. This is one of the qualities of the Mother Earth. If she had not kept us attracted we would have fallen off with her movement and also other qualities of the Mother Earth start manifesting within us, and we become very, I should say, extremely tolerant, patient… person. Tolerant and patient… extremely tolerant and patient. But if you are not tolerant, if you are hot tempered and all that, then Mother Earth's principle is not expressed I should say. Look at the Mother Earth. How much she tolerates our nonsense, how many wrong things we do against her, but still she tolerates. Sri Ganesha's quality is to tolerate, to begin with. Up to a point, he tolerates. In the same way we too become extremely tolerant, patient and forgiving.This is the minimum of minimum that should happen to all the Sahajayogis who have vibrations, because now I have told you all the things that are expressed in your vibrations. It is a thing to be understood that what you have become now is something very great, it has not happened to others, it has not happened to somebody who is not being a Sahaja Yogi. You see the people who go to Church or to Mosques or to Temple, see their faces. Look at them, how do they look like? They haven’t got anything from the Temple, they haven’t got anything from the Mosque, they haven’t got anything from any one of these places where they go to worship. So, that is artificial. That has become something, I should say, without any connection with the reality. Only after realization you are connected with reality and you can get the understanding of all these subtleties working through you. Why I am telling you this, because I want you to know and recognize yourself, to understand what you are, what you have got. Once you recognize yourself and understand yourself you can do a lot. First of all to say that I am a Sahaja Yogi itself it should be very much with self confidence and as a self confident person should find out what have I done as Sahaja Yogi? What can I do as Sahaja Yogi? Some Sahaja Yogis have done wonders. They have done such a lot of work of Sahaja Yoga, while some Sahaja Yogis are still writing to me that “my husband is fighting with me, my son is like this, my mother like this”; all the time, you see, letters after letters come to me. You are a Sahaja Yogi. Now you just see to your subtleties, work it out. They think I am here to solve their problems, their family problems, and their jobs and things. I am not here for that. I am here to give you self-realization and the understanding that whatever you have got, you must accept as a challenge, take it up as a challenge and you will be amazed, how you will be helped and how you will get the results! “Sahaja” does not mean only that you get spontaneous realization. It also means that you get spontaneity. The whole nature gets spontaneity. All these subtle things that I have told you, they also get spontaneous and they work it out. Of course, there are Angels and there are Ganas who are helping you but you need not worry about them just now. Main thing is you must realize what you are, what have you got and how much you have faced it, you have got it and how it has worked? I have seen every time I just have a little problem of something, immediately it works. It works in such quarters and such people that I never expected. Everything works out. But whatever works out is for your good, is for your growth, for your understanding that you are a Sahaja Yogi. You have entered into the Kingdom of God, but this you have to develop. Also, introspection can tell you that are you working out all those things or not? If you take to introspection, you will be surprised to see, yes, you have these powers and you can do wonders. So I bless you all, please develop those subtle things within you. They are already there; you do not have to do anything. Only understand and locate. Thank you very much. Translation from Hindi: Those who are searching the truth, my salutations to all those seekers. We all are searching for the truth. But, in which place should we search that, where should we search that, Where is this truth hiding, should be understood in the first place. In foreign countries also I noticed that many great Sufis where born, and they all spoke about Sahaja, totally about Sahaja. But, no one respects them there. Their recognition is very less there. Very few people recognize them and entertain themselves by reading their (Sufis') poetries. But, they do not follow the path mentioned by Sufis. Like this, in every country, many great Sufis are born. In England also, a great saint William Blake was born. But no one used to listen to him. Even I have never heard his name in my college days also. But I knew that he existed. When I went to London, I purchased his book for the first time. Attaining self-realization has become very easy through Sahaja Yoga, for everyone. There is no such thing in this, that "you stand on your head", or "you abandon your family", or "leave your children", no need to do anything like this. This energy is present right inside you. Within you, in a triangular bone, this energy is present. It is not just that I am telling you, People have been talking about it since time immemorial. Now, kindly keep both your hands towards me. Now, keep this hand (left hand) towards me, and right hand on top of your fontanel bone, which was a soft bone in your infancy? Keep your hand above that bone. Right hand. Now keep your right hand towards me and left hand above your head. Again, keep above your fontanel bone. That is, not on your head, but above it. Now check, if you are getting any cool breeze from your head. Some people may get the breeze much above the head, some may get in front of the head, and some may get behind the head, rotate your hand and check. Now, left hand towards me and right hand on top of your head and see that cool breeze is coming out. It's coming. It is possible that you are getting a hot breeze also. Because you have to forgive everyone. Do forgive each and every one. If you don't forgive, then you will get a hot breeze. If you don't forgive, then what do you do? Nothing. You are only troubling yourself. So, it's better to forgive everyone, then you will get a very cool breeze. Forgive yourself also. "I have done this mistake", "I have done that sin", don't think anything like this. Forgive yourself also completely. Now keep both your hands towards me. Please put both the hands towards me. Now, who ever got a cool breeze in both their hands or hot breeze, please raise both hands up. From this end, to that end? My infinite blessings to you all. My blessings to all of you. You all have achieved it now. Your seed has germinated. You have to make a big tree out of this. And if all of you grow into big trees, then what can be better? After that, how long can this kalyug last? "Satya yug" is anyways coming. But its Radiance has not spread yet. You people are going to Show light towards Satya Yug. Now I am very confident that you are going to spread Sahaja Yoga. Each man can give realization to 1000 men, and each woman can give realization to 1000 women. And everyone should try and give realization to all others, everyone else. My blessings to you all. In the end, we all will sing "Vande Mataram". All of you stand up for that.

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1998 -1217—Public Program DELHI INDIA Sahaji brother: On behalf of all the Sahaja yogi brothers and sisters, who have come to Sahaja Yoga Kendra, Delhi, we welcome Her Honorable Shri Adi Shakti Mataji. For your information, Shri Mataji's schedule is busy, 12 months and 24 hours. Not only India, but in over 75 countries Shri Mataji's work keeps happening continuously. From this busy schedule, Shri Mataji has taken out time for us Delhi people. So, I request all of you to take advantage of the golden opportunity. I request Honorable Shri Mataji to give all of us who are present here the precious knowledge of Sahaja Yoga. 1-st translation of Shri Mataji's speech: Shri Mataji: My salutations to all the seekers of truth. We are searching the truth but we should understand first where this truth is hiding and where exactly we should search for it. You must have noticed that thousands of foreigners from all over the world come here, and when asked the reason for their visit, they say that they have come here in search of truth. “There is no truth in our country, but thinking that there is truth in India, we have come here.” And in search of this truth thousands of people have been coming here for several thousand years. You must have heard in history that several people from China and many other countries came here. And somehow, they knew that the truth is hidden only in this country. And in search of this they used to wander in caves, in the Himalayas, and used to try every possible way to discover this truth, because whatever religion they followed, they knew that just by following the religion they could achieve the truth. This religion is just a guideline, like a sign post, written on the road, showing the way. This cannot lead them to truth. So, to get rid of this incompleteness, they used to come to India in search of truth, and this truth has been in our country and is still here. And it is most necessary to achieve this truth. There is a lot of difference between our system and foreign systems. There, the system of knowledge is such that, if anything is said about knowledge, then immediately they start analysing it and researching it. How correct is it to do such a thing? If Jesus Christ said something, for that also the analysis will start. By this analysis the truth can never be found. Instead, this may lead to the finding of many distorted forms of the knowledge. Now we should think about the system in our country. There is definitely some speciality and sacredness in this country, that so many great personalities, sages and seers have been born here over several thousand years. And this extended up to the 16 century, when great personalities like Guru Nanak were born, and they wrote volumes on truth. Many things were told and explained. But our system is such that we don't negate or discuss the writings of the great personalities and don't try to look at them from the classical point of view because these have been told by people who are at great heights, and if they have written something from that level, we respect and accept it, and follow their footsteps. This is the speciality of our system that with reverence and trust we accept that whatever is written by great spiritual masters is the absolute truth. There is no lie in it. We don't have the right to analyse or crosscheck this, as we are not that wise. We are not that great. Neither do we have much understanding of scriptures, nor we know them in depth. Once we understand this fact, we easily accept the truth with reverence, which has been given to us by the great personalities. In foreign countries also I found that there were great sufis who spoke about Sahaj, nothing but Sahaj. But no one accepts anything told by these sufis in those countries. Very few people respect them, but they also read their poems and entertain themselves; that is all. Like this many sufis were born in great countries. In a place like England also a great saint like William Blake was born. No one understands him. I had not heard his name even in my college days, but I knew he existed. When I went to London for the first time I bought his book. The reason for negating these people is, according to the foreigners, sufis are mad, William Blake is mad, and all the saints and sages also are mad. This kind of egoism which prevails in foreign countries is not seen in our country. Rather, we should say that it was not there before, because now we also are becoming foreigners. We do not know anything about our country. Children in our schools hardly know anything about our country. I asked one of the children, “Do you know anything about Ajanta?" He asked if Ajanta is in India or abroad. The resources of our country are so great, so strong and unshakable, but we do not consider it our prime duty to know about them. We can never discuss the culture of this place. Many people, particularly our foreign Sahaja yogis, requested me to write a book on the strong points of our country. I asked them, “Which strong points are you talking about?” They replied, “About Indian culture. Please write a book on Indian culture." I said, “Our culture is like an ocean. What can I give you from this ocean? I will have to write volumes and volumes on this subject.” Let me tell you something which could be a funny incident for us. Once, a foreign lady came to Me who was the wife of an Ambassador. She was wearing a garland around her neck. She told Me, "I don't understand Indians.” I asked her, "Why? What happened?” She replied, "I went to a flower shop, and I found a beautiful garland in that shop. I bought it and wore it, and the girl who was selling the garland started laughing at me. And everyone I saw on the way also were laughing at me because I was wearing that garland." I did not know how to explain it to her. I told her, “Look, here in India a garland is worn only when someone honours us. You cannot honour your own self. So, if you are honouring yourself and wearing a garland, then it is definitely something very funny for Indian culture, and would make us laugh." She said, “Your Indian culture seems to be very deep." Any Indian will understand that giving importance to your own self, and roaming around with a garland around your neck, is considered a despicable act, because there is no humility in this. We should understand who we are and what we think of ourselves. But I would say, whatever agitation Mahatma Gandhi carried out, regarding this matter, had an adverse effect. When I was with Gandhiji, I found that whatever he did was only to promote the Indian culture, in spite of the fact that he was educated in a foreign country. Without this culture the world cannot exist. If the world has to be saved, then Indian culture should be an excellent example so that others will understand that this is the true life and there is true joy in living like this. And in his ashram, there was a tradition of getting up at 4 in the morning. It was a rule that after getting up at 4 in the morning, you finish with your bath and other things and proceed to the prayer hall. And during the prayer sessions sometimes we could see snakes dancing in front of us. But there is no history of snakes or scorpions biting anyone in the ashram. The environment was so pure there. And people of all castes, creeds and religions used to worship there, with humility. And along with the prayer, music sessions also used to take place. And it is not surprising for Me since I know him so well, that whatever hymns [bhajanavali] he wrote were based completely on the Kundalini and chakras, in order, that is, it was written on one chakra after the other. His first hymnal was on Ganeshaji, the next on Saraswatiji, and this continued with other chakras in ascending order, describing the deities of each particular chakra. And we were supposed to sing in the same order. After that the Lord's Prayer was recited from the Bible, and after that a few verses from the Koran also were included, and there used to be mention of Buddhism and Jainism as well. But the first part of the prayer always used to be about deities present in each and every chakra of ours. He had such a spiritual outlook, and he knew everything about Kundalini and all the chakras. With the complete knowledge, he wrote these verses, in an organised form, and tried to bring this knowledge to the common man. And he used to ask me questions about spiritualism. I was a very young girl at that time but he used to say, “Tell me, which profoundness of Indian culture is special?" Now it is very important to talk about our culture, because people have forgotten Gandhiji. Gandhiji has become totally unimportant because his spiritual teachings are not seen anywhere in today's politics. No one talks about spiritualism. If Indians cannot understand spiritual matters, then who else can? Today you can see that people from 75 countries have come here to attend this meeting, and our spiritual matters have spread in these 75 countries. And these people have got Self-realization, and they are following our culture. They are not following American culture, or English culture or French culture. On the contrary, they say that the culture of their respective countries will take them towards their downfall. This culture kills our spirit, and diverts us from morality. These people have understood this. Now shouldn't we understand? We people give explanations and fight for things which completely lack even the thought of morality. And the greatest thing our culture teaches us is to be moral. There are certain rules in morality. In our country every person has full freedom to either be moral or immoral, because ultimately you have been given the complete freedom. Now you should understand "swa" [spirit] and "tantra" [mechanism]. To know the mechanism of your spirit is the actual freedom. "Swa" means your spirit. To know your own spirit is the freedom [swatantrata]. Shivaji said that in the future you will know your spirit. And that is what Sahaja Yoga is, where you will understand your spirit. And the easiest way to know your spirit is through our Indian culture. You can never get to the depth of this culture because you have been thrown out of it because we are being ruled by kinds of people who have no knowledge of Indian culture. These people have bundled up Gandhiji's teachings and thrown them in a corner, and whatever they are teaching is contrary to Indian culture. For example, I belong to Chittorgarh. You must have heard about Rani Padmini, who jumped into the pyre. She jumped into it along with thousands of other women, to save their chastity, which is considered to be the greatest power of a woman, according to us. Wherever the chastity of a women is not respected, that place is dominated by demons, devils and ghosts of Brahmins [brahmarakshas]. And this truth can be witnessed in America. Many nasty incidents are happening in America, which I cannot describe. The mothers are killing their own children. There is so much of filth there, that people are not scared of doing anything wrong. Since you have not been there it may look like the grass is greener on the other side for you. They are not scared of God. We don't even know if they believe in the power of God. For them everything is money, which has to be achieved in any possible way. I know a person whom an American asked, "If I give you a lot of money, will you kill that particular lady?" This person replied, “No, no, I cannot kill anyone. Why should I kill her?" The American replied, “For the sake of money." He said, "I can never kill anyone for money or any other reason." The American said, "I can kill her, because I will get money. Money is everything." Then, you wouldn't hesitate to kill your mother also. The other day a person came here who said, “Mother, I killed my own mother." I said, "OK, so tomorrow you will kill Me also." A person who can kill his own mother and show disrespect to her can never be an Indian. There are plenty of descriptions of Indian mothers. We consider mothers as the form of Shakti, and we worship that Shakti. In all our scriptures there are descriptions of the mother. Everything starts with the mother, but in the foreign system a mother does not have a place at all. Many of the foreign countries have been named after fathers. For example, we call our country Bharat Mata or motherland. But they claim that their country is masculine. Germany is one among them. You all know very well what Germany did, and now they are suffering for their deeds. Indians can never do such a thing. But there is a lot of ignorance in India. Recently, I came across a book in Jaipur, which must have been written by a local person. In that book he has written that instead of going in the pyre, Rani Padmini could have surrendered herself to Alauddin Khilji and she could have become his slave. There would have been no war in that case. She burnt 32000 women along with her. Where is the wisdom in this? See where these people’s thoughts are going. Maybe we should compromise on everything. What was the necessity to fight with the British? We could have been their slaves as well. If we had compromised everywhere, many people would still have been alive. But what would they achieve by just being alive? Today so many Indians are living, but what good are they doing? What are they going to achieve? Money, money, money; this money has gotten into their brains also. And for the sake of money should we sell our values? Should we completely destroy them? These values are our support system, and you should know that the whole world is waiting to see which value of yours is going to lift you up, and which value of yours is going to awaken you. And you are becoming fools in the hands of everyone. The British tried to fool you and you acted stupid. Whoever is trying to spread immorality in the country can definitely not be an Indian, because without morality you can never rise high. Only with the help of this morality can you achieve the All-pervading Power. If there is no morality in you, you can never become emancipated. You will go to hell, and your country will also go to hell. Like, I have observed that in foreign countries people are given complete freedom. Somehow or other their only intention is to earn money. It doesn't matter if women have to sell themselves or you have to open liquor stores. The only intention is to earn money. And after earning so much money, where does America stand today? Do you know that they are indebted to many countries? The country is sunken in debt. Many of our educated Indians went to America. I asked them, “Why have you come here?" They replied, “There is a lot of money in this country. So we came to earn money." All right, then what happened to all the money? Why is everyone in debt? Every youth is paying off a loan. I said, “You are all Indians. Why are you sinking in debt? You should remember that you people are highly educated engineers, doctors, and chartered accountants, and still you are so deep in debt that you cannot even go back to your country.” They said, “To have a lifestyle of this kind we have to borrow money.” Like fools, they use their credit cards and order this and that and unnecessary things just to match the American lifestyle, and thus they are in debt. You went all the way there, and now you are in debt. What is the use of going there? You could not earn anything properly but you are paying off loans. Yes, you have huge houses, expensive sofas, carpets, this and that, but everything is paid for by loan money. And in that country taking a loan is not considered bad at all. So you also keep borrowing money. We should not be in a place like this where the culture is so unprincipled. I call this as wrath of "aLakshmi", where superficially everything looks beautiful but there is nothing inside except loan. What can we learn from these people? They come here to learn from us, and what can we learn from them? There is nothing to learn from them. We should not be frightened to accept boldly that there is no greater country than ours, and in the whole world there is no better culture then ours. It is very difficult to get to the depth of this culture as we also have become very useless. In India people have become so worthless that they sell their vote just for some onions. Now, Sahaja yogis who came here from outside came with a bag full of onions. I should be ashamed of this. Many people know how to fool others but Indians are expert in being fooled by others. All these foreigners brought along with them bags full of onions. I asked them, “Why have you brought onions with you?" They said, “Because we heard that there is such a shortage of onions in India, that the government is getting toppled because of that. So we brought onions with us.” I said, “That is true, but at least don't embarrass us so much.” Those days are gone when people used to fight for their country and sacrifice everything. We ourselves were among them. Today people who are claiming all the rights in free India, did they or their ancestors ever do anything good for this country? When there was combat in the country, when people were fighting for freedom, getting hurt, going to jail, sacrificing their homes, were any of these people present there at that time? Now they are claiming rights and passing orders that this should not happen in the country, and things like that. I am very astonished to see that to bring unethical things in the country there is so much fighting going on. Today the principle is to spoil the justice lovers by giving them liquor, teaching them ugly things, wrenching money from them and swallowing it yourself. You have to remember one thing, that if you are coming to Sahaja Yoga you have to accept the Indian culture, in spite of your caste, creed, race and religion. Without that, it is not possible to be in Sahaja. And you need to understand what Sahaj Marg is. Consider that we follow a certain thing religiously but we have not achieved it yet. So many fraudulent people have come, giving wrong advice, because of which there is plenty of chaos. So that is why it is mentioned that you get Self-realization. There is no meaning in your religion or your talks unless and until you have achieved Self-realization. This cannot be achieved by your intelligence. Einstein himself has said that this Self-realization is beyond our minds. He also was a Self-realized soul, who mentioned about “torsion area” but people negated him by asking, “Where is this torsion area?" How can you find this torsion area? You cannot find it until you attain Self-realization. So first of all, achieve your Self-realization. For that also many false people mushroomed in our country. Many tantrics grew, who started cheating people by giving them things like diamonds, and people started getting caught in their web. Getting Self-realization has become very easy through Sahaja Marg. Everyone can achieve this very easily. Through this method you don't have to do anything like standing on your head, or leaving the society, your home, or your children. No need to do any such thing. This energy is present inside you. It is present in a triangular bone inside your body. I am not saying this but it has been told by several great personalities from the time of creation. I am very surprised that from India people like Machinder Nath, Gorakh Nath, who used to talk about Kundalini, travelled to places like Bolivia, several thousand years back, which is a very difficult place for us to reach. They went to Ukraine and also to some parts of Russia. And after going there they explained to people that this Kundalini Shakti is inside you and all the chakras are present inside your system. And we people who are their progeny do not know anything about Kundalini. The natives of Bolivia know everything about Kundalini but they say that they do not know how to awaken the Kundalini, though they are aware of the existence of Kundalini. I went to Bolivia only once, and many thousands of people got Self-realization instantly. But we people do not have any knowledge of this, and no one tells us about it, nor it is mentioned in any of our books. It is as if we have been completely severed from that great culture and the great knowledge, and we ourselves do not know what kind of peculiar human beings we have become. We are neither Indians nor English. We do not know to which country we belong to. People also do not know the meaning of Kundalini. Just imagine, people do not know what is this Kundalini which has an ocean like knowledge inside it. Recently a person came here from Mexico, who is an Ambassador. I told him, “Your country is full of spirit science." He said, “Is that so?" I replied, “Yes, I have been to your country and I have noticed this spirit science there.” To that he replied that it can be removed by psychology. I said, “Your psychology or psychiatry is like a child science. There is absolutely nothing in it. If you want to know about psychology I will tell you. The spirit science, psychology, psychiatry, everything, is mentioned in depth in our books. And I will explain that to you." This Ambassador is a voracious learner. Whenever I have time I will explain everything to him. But you people should understand that your country has a treasure of knowledge, and where are you running? What exactly are you doing? According to you, whichever country you think is very advanced and effluent, please go and have a look. I have seen those countries. Do you think they are all happy? If they were really happy why would they come here? Why would they come here in search of joy and happiness? This happiness is something like, you want a house today, then you want a car, then you want this and that. You are never satisfied with what you have. You want this after that, and a third thing next. What is the necessity to run after materialistic things? There is no end to your needs. There is no contentment. But you get all these things in Sahaja Yoga. In Sahaja Yoga you will be completely content and satisfied. But Sahaja Yoga is based on Indian culture. Foreign culture will not work in Sahaja Yoga. Whoever wants to follow Sahaja Yoga should understand this. Now look at these foreign women who have draped themselves in saris. But that doesn't mean that you should jump up and down like the members of Hare Rama Hare Krishna. If you want to get to the reality then you have to get deeper into it and fit into it, and understand it. There is nothing in this which you cannot do, because you are all born in this great country. It is mentioned in scriptures that to take birth in India, you should have done a thousand years of penance. After doing good deeds for thousands of years, this kind of people are there in front of Me. In our lifetime, we have come across people who have sacrificed their lives for the sake of the country. And now, you people are behaving this way, just for some onions? You should be ashamed of yourselves. Padmini jumped into the pyre along with 32000 other women. What is the importance of our country? It is our values. And these values will be awakened in you by Sahaj Yoga, because I have noticed that Sahaj has awakened these values in foreigners also. These values are seated inside us, are shining inside us, glowing and beaming like sunshine. All these values inside us and the greatness of this mother element, along with the values. But if we cover these values like the cloud covering the moon, then how can we see these values? Or how will you understand them when they are covered with so many layers? Kabir Das ji has explained very beautifully about Sahaja Yoga, but people don't understand it. For example, he wrote, "Ida, Pingala, Sukhamana Nadi re". But people started asking, “What are Ida and Pingala?” They know about the nervous system, they know about the autonomous nervous system, but they don't know that the autonomous nervous system is Ida, Pingala and Sushumna Nadis. They do not know anything about that. He [Kabir Das] wrote, “Saiyan nikas gaye, mai na ladi." I call my Lucknow people philanderers because they think the meaning of "sainya" is “Here is some lover, who has left her beloved and she did not cry”. I said, “What has Kabir Das got to do with lover? Was he so romantic?” What he meant in that particular line is that "My whole life went by, I became almost dead but still I didn't fight with death." Just imagine how we have converted this into a perverted meaning. For example, "Surati chadhe kamaan"; according to Kabir Das ji, “surati” means "Kundalini", but people in Bihar converted this to tobacco as surati means tobacco in Bihar. Now look at the condition of Bihar. There were one after the other great people born in Bihar. One among them was Gautama Buddha; Mahavira in a way. I think Guru Nanak also had to do something with Bihar. Many of these kinds of seers were born there, like many lotuses are born in a pond. And people proudly announce that these lotuses were born in our country. But what right have you to say this, because you are still worms from the same place? If you also want to become a lotus, then come to Sahaja Yoga. It is not difficult to come to Sahaja. It is very easy [sahaj], but it is difficult to establish in Sahaj. People who are used to eating their food the difficult way, cannot adopt any easy method to eat it. In Sahaj you will definitely get your Self-realization, without a doubt. Particularly if you are an Indian, you are sure to get it, irrespective of your being a Hindu or Muslim. But after you attain your spirit, you need to settle in Sahaj. Like, there is a seed, and even if it has germinated, it still has to grow into a tree. That is where we stumble, because the whole atmosphere around us is polluted. We think pollution means air pollution, but no, even impure thoughts can pollute the whole society. The process of this pollution is very bad. From all directions we get bombarded by innumerable thoughts and ideas. Newspaper people play an Important role in this. I don't know to which country they belong. They do not look like Indians to me. None of them has any idea about Indian culture. Many people requested me to conduct a seminar where many press people would be invited. I said, "No, no, no, no, no." I will not talk to press people. It is beyond their capacity to handle this. The only thing which is within their capacity is to make one party fight with the other, day in and day out. They cannot do anything else. They cannot do anything else. People from 30 countries had come here. That is, journalists from 30 countries had visited India. And they wanted to have a meeting with Me. The most surprising thing is that all the people from 30 countries who had come here got their Self-realization. All of them felt the cool breeze from their palms. But people who have a cunning nature, who spread false gossip from one place to another, cannot benefit much from Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja Yoga is neither for cunning people, nor for stupid people. Any person can get Self-realization, provided he desires it from the bottom of his heart. After that his life is transformed. He starts enjoying life. After that many blessings are showered on you, and you realise that God is watching you, and managing each and every movement of yours. He is with you in every place. Many people say, “We used to go to temple every day and worshipped Shivaji so much, but still Shivaji was not happy with us. We didn't get this or that." This is a common complaint. But Your connection was not established with Shivaji. People say, “We hurt our knees by kneeling before Shivaji daily and going to temple but still we did not attain God, we did not get any blessings, nor were we peaceful.” How will you get it? Because you have no connection with God there. I think people have not read the Koran properly. If they read it they would understand that the whole of Sahaja Yoga is described in it. Everything is described about Khiyama, how he came on a white horse and crossed the seven stages. This is nothing but Sahaja Yoga. People who are truthful will write true things only, instead of writing absurd things. But later, to save the people, certain rules were changed, because the natives of Arbasthan did not know much about the culture. Our Indian people know what is right and what is wrong. We know everything. A boy who went to Cambridge for higher education tells me that these people [British] consider everything to be a challenge. I asked him, “How?" He replied, “People asked me why I am not taking drugs. I said I don’t take drugs because it is not in our culture. They said, ‘Which culture are you talking about? We all are taking drugs. So you also should take them. This is a challenge for your culture.’ I replied, ‘I don't want to accept your stupid challenge’.” The boy said, “Mother, these people think that consuming liquor is a challenge. Taking drugs is a challenge. Getting AIDS is a challenge for them and maybe going to hell is also a challenge." What else is there to say except that their minds are completely corrupt. If someone thinks all these things are good, then what can be said about them? I tried to talk some sense to the patients with AIDS, but they replied to Me by saying, “We have sacrificed so much". I said, “What have you sacrificed?” They said, “We are great fighters," and so on. I said, “My namaskar to you. You people keep fighting like this and spoiling your lives. What else can I say? You people are not going to move forward. I can see that very clearly." So, this is the kind of attitude people have there, that to do anything wrong is a challenge for them. And they think that Indians are useless and cowards. And after this incident of onions, I feel how these people have humiliated us so much. I feel as if we are very cheap and useless. And in Delhi there are several thousand Sahaja yogis, but still I don't understand how such an incident can happen here, as if they have become brainless; like Punjabis say, they have lost their minds. But I did not expect that this would happen so soon. I thought I would do some work outside Delhi for some time. When I came back I find the whole situation so bad here. I don't know what kind of people have mushroomed here. I should accept that this is the "prime era of downfall" [Ghor Kali Yuga]. Otherwise, it is not possible for human beings to change so fast. And In this Kali Yuga a kind of confusion plays tricks with the mind. When this confusion starts tricking the mind, then the discrimination between good and bad is lost. We don't realise what is proper and what is improper. It has been mentioned that Sahaja Yoga has to come in this era of downfall. In the "Nal Damyanti Vyakhyan", once Nal caught hold of Kali and told her, "I am going to kill you, because you have troubled me a lot, and separated me from my wife. So I am going to kill you." To that Kali replied, “All right. First, you listen to my importance and then you can kill me." Nal said, “What can be your importance, as you are an evil person?” Kali said, “No, I have my own importance, that is, during Kali Yuga, people will become totally confused and exasperated, and at that time, thousands of people who are seeking God and the truth in mountains and caves will be blessed. They will experience their spirit. They will get their Self-realization. So Kali Yuga is very important, without which people cannot seek the truth, or they will not attain or search the truth.” When he heard this, Nal let go of Kali and said, “All right, let your Kali Yuga come.” Now this downfall [Ghor Kali Yuga] has come, and with that Sahaja Yoga also has come, attracting you and asking you to look towards it, without getting entangled in any other web. To come to the Sahaja Marg you don't have to give anything, there is no need to sacrifice anything, and you don't have to pay anything. You only have to awaken the Kundalini which is situated inside you. And when it awakens, it sustains itself in the Sahasrar, and pierces and comes out of the fontanelle bone and unites with the All-pervading Power, which is spread all around. It is a very simple thing. Till now you have never been associated with this subtle energy. You have not experienced this subtle energy until now. You have not known it at all. And without knowing this, you are chanting the name of God, going around to all the temples, and doing all kinds of circus. What happens if you go to mosque? No one is becoming wise. Instead, they are fighting among themselves. And what is the use of going to temple where there is nothing but corruption? Is it not very clear that this is wrong, and there is no use in doing this? Instead, something better has to be done. It is so clearly visible in front of your eyes. We should recognise it when it is so clear. This path is not the right one, there is no use in it, and it is useless to follow this path. Unless we achieve our inner self and get to our spirit, we may get lost in the darkness of this life. So it is very essential for you to enlighten your spirit and recognise in that light, what is good and what is bad for you. When the spirit is enlightened, we develop the power to discriminate between right and the wrong [sat-asat-vivek buddhi], you will do only which is right for you, and you will never do anything which will lead you to self-destruction. Whatever you do will be done with plenty of love and affection. It is very difficult for Me also to speak harshly to you. Today, I had come prepared to tell you very strongly, “Stop being stupid. You have already done enough foolish things." Now, when you follow Sahaj Marg, you attain plenty of inner peace. Our country is a peace-loving country. This country has never created problems for any country, never looted any other country, nor tried to possess the land of any country. How did we achieve this peace? We have struggled for thousands of years, but still how did we get this peace? This is because of the greatness of our land. The land on which you all are sitting is the cause for why we all are peace-loving people. If someone tries to attack us, we definitely respond to them, but we never try to be mischievous to anyone. This kind of system is not there in our country. It is there in other countries but not in ours. We don't provoke any country to fight with others, and we don't bomb any country. We don't do such things. We are self-controlled in these matters. Once the peace inside us is established, our families, which is our small world, also become peaceful, and our children become peaceful. Peace is very essential for our life. Even trees do not grow in places where there is no peace. That place can never advance, and in those places people will destroy themselves by fighting with one another. The peace which you get from Sahaja Yoga makes you progress. There are many youth in Sahaja Yoga who have achieved great heights. They never even dreamt that they would get this kind of name and fame, prosperity and everything else. They are completely satisfied people. If I try to give them something they say, “Mother, You have already given us so much. Now what are You giving again?” This kind of mental satisfaction is established inside us. Contentment leads to mutual understanding, better relationships and love. Most importantly, Sahaja Yoga is a transaction of love. We get the love of the All-pervading Power around us, and there is nothing greater than love in this world. Everything is secondary to a person who understands the importance of love. He establishes all his values on the basis of love. Love is the kind of water because of which our country will grow like a lively and vivid tree. If in the past we had the binding of togetherness and love among one another, then which country would have dared to rule over us? Through Sahaja Yoga we can achieve this togetherness, mutual love and affection, and collective consciousness will be established among us. We all will become one. Now, see that people have come here from different countries, who follow different religions, but the togetherness, unity and contentment which are among this people cannot be seen anywhere else. You will be surprised to see their oneness. If you go to some other guru, you will find that the disciples will always be fighting either among themselves or with the guru. But in Sahaja Yoga, when we become Self-realized, then we start understanding that we are drops in the same ocean in which all are united. We face the agitation of the sea, go up, and come down and again go up. This kind of beautiful society is being organised all by itself, and this will definitely happen in our country. All the wrongdoers, who are claiming the authority of the country, have not done anything for the country, nor they have sacrificed anything. Just like that they are occupying the most responsible seats of the country. It is very essential to have genuine devotion towards our country. Not just because it is our country and we are born here, but also because it is a great country. I cannot describe the greatness of this country, but at some point, if I get time I want to write something about the greatness of this country. To know about this country, you also should have a nature which is related to Sahaja. Only then you can understand how many things have happened in depth in this country, and all that has happened in our history. It is very essential to have patriotism for our country. If you are not devoted to your country you cannot come into Sahaja Yoga. Towards this country, only you people do not have any devotion, but these people [foreigners] have love for your country, and they have accepted Sahaja Yoga in 75 countries. These people love your country so much that whenever they come here, they bend down and pay their homage to this land. Now, only these people have to teach you to recognize your own mother and pay respect to her. I can keep talking on this subject, but it is an honour for Me that today you people have come from such far-off places in this cold weather. If all my children are in front of Me, what more do I need? I can only bless you that today, in this place, and at this moment, all of you get your Self-realization. And for that you don't have to do anything. You will receive it wherever you are seated. And you yourself will feel the cool breeze coming out of your hands. This is a very subtle thing, and this is not the time to explain what this breeze is and how it comes, but definitely I will tell you about it some other time. Because of the impact of the vibrations which are flowing from within us, you can not only correct your physical, mental, and material aspects, but correct others’ problems, too. You are so great, but if you want to get stuck in the mud, what can I do? I request you all to be patient for ten more minutes and get your Self-realization. Whatever I spoke to you till now was to make you ready for the Self-realization program. Without this preparation, you cannot get Self-realization, as this is not the work of a coward, or that of a stupid person. So, with proper understanding, accept the fact that you are a spirit, and the only aim of your life is to attain this spirit. You have no other aim. Now, I just want to tell you that if you are wearing shoes or chappals, please remove them. Like I told you earlier, this land is a holy land where many sages and seers were born, and we have to see what you people can achieve out of this sacred land. Now, please keep your both hands towards Me. Now, keep your left hand towards Me, and keep your right hand on your fontanelle bone, on top of your head, which was a soft bone in your infancy. And now, keep your right hand towards Me and with your left hand check on top of your head, above the fontanelle bone to see If you are feeling a cool breeze. Some people may get the cool breeze much above the head, while some may get it just above the head. So please move your hand a little up and down to feel the cool breeze. Now, keep the left hand towards Me. And again with your right hand check on top of your head whether you are getting a cool breeze. It is possible that you may be getting a warm breeze also, because you have to forgive everyone. Forgive everyone, because if you don't forgive you will get a warm breeze from your head. And if you don't forgive someone, what are you doing? You are doing nothing except troubling your own self. So, forgive everyone and you will get a cool breeze. Forgive your own self also. Don't think, “I did this thing wrong or that thing wrong.” Forgive yourself completely. Now keep both your hands towards Me. Please put both your hands towards Me. And now whoever felt a cool breeze or a warm breeze from both your hands, please raise both your hands. From this side to that side? May God bless you. My blessings to you all. You have all achieved Self-realization. The seeds are germinated inside you. Now, you have to grow this into a big tree. And if as many trees as you people grow here, then how long can Kali Yuga continue? Satya Yuga [age of wisdom and truth] is coming, but it still has to shine its light. You will be the people who will spread the light of Satya Yuga. I have full faith that you people will promote Sahaja Yoga. Each man can be responsible to give Self-realization to 1000 men, and each woman can give Self-realization to 1000 women. And everyone should try to give realization to every other person and see to it that they all achieve their spirit. My blessings to you all. At the end of this program we all will sing “Vande Mataram”. For that you all need to stand up. Who are we to deny this song, which helped us to fight the war of freedom? All of you stand up, and now these foreigners will sing this song, and you will be surprised to see how far the glory of our India has reached. Children should come here who will be singing this song. Sahaji brother: Please pay attention here. Now the seed has germinated, and to improve it and establish your Self-realization and to give you more knowledge about it, we have arranged a follow-up program. So, tomorrow, that is, Saturday the 19th, all the centres in Delhi will have this follow-up program. The addresses of all the centres are on the back of the pamphlet given to you. So whichever centre is near to you, please attend the follow-up program there. All of you are invited. Thank you. 2-nd translation of Shri Mataji's speech: My greetings to all the seekers of truth. We all are searching for truth, but where to search for it, what is the right place for it, where that truth is lying, you all should understand first. Thousands of people come to India, and if you ask them, “Why have you come to India?” they answer, “We are here to search for the truth. In our countries there is no truth, but In India the truth lies. So we are here.” And in search of this truth thousands of seekers come to India, and have been coming for thousands of years. You must have heard that in history, people from China and many more faraway countries used to come to India. I don’t know how, but they all knew that truth is present only in this country. Truth is hidden only in this land. They used to roam the streets and go to the Himalayas, to search for the truth. They made all efforts to find the truth, because people were following different religions, but they knew just by following any religion they would not be able to achieve the truth. Religion is just a path, like what you see on the streets. They are labeled by any name, but we do not get the truth with it. That is why due to this unfulfillment of the truth the seekers used to come over to India. This truth was prevalent in the past and still is prevalent in our country, and to attain this truth is very important. There is a huge difference in the systems used to search for truth in India and the systems abroad. The method used abroad for finding true knowledge is that if someone says anything there, people start analyzing it, how true it is and what is being said to them. Even what Jesus Christ said is analyzed. With this analysis the truth doesn’t come out, but the scorcher side comes out. Now think about the methodology of our country. There is some specialty and purity in this country that so many sages and saints and a considerable number of people have taken birth here for thousands of years, and with the increase of saints, by the 16th century we had seen saints like Guru Nanak and many more who had taken their birth here, and all of them wrote a lot about truth. Many things were explained, but our methodology is such that all that is written by such great souls, we do not analyze what they said. We do not discuss it. We do not want to look at it from a classical angle. They are the people who have attained the Divine. They are placed much higher than others. Whatever they have said, we approve it and walk on the path shown by them. This is the most special methodology of our country, that with devotion and faith we agree that for people who have reached heights in spirituality, whatever they have written is truth and they never lie, and we do not analyze what they have written in books, as we are not experts in that knowledge. We have not attained those heights, we do not have such a great knowledge of our scriptures, and we are not that great. So we follow those scriptures written by these famous saints and sages. 5.45 I noticed in foreign countries as well that that there have been many sufis abroad. They have all talked about Sahaja Yoga, but nobody follows sufis there. Their recognition in foreign lands is very negligible. Very few people follow them. They just read their poems and get entertained by them, but do not follow the path shown by the sufis. In every country there have been sufis who said great things about Divinity. Even in England we had a big saint by the name of William Blake, but no one recognizes his work. We did not hear of him even when we were studying in college, but we knew he was there. When we went to London for the first time, we bought his books there. The reason behind this is that people thought William Blake was mad. All the sufis are considered insane. For the foreigners all our saints and sages are also mad. This kind of egoism that exists abroad is not found in our country. It was not there in the past, I should say. Now we are all turning into westerners. We have no knowledge about our own country. In our school curriculum students don’t know much. I asked one student, “Do you know about Ajanta caves?” He asked Me, “Are Ajanta caves in India or abroad?” The rich heritage of our country is so vast, so deep, so irreplaceable that we do not consider it our responsibility to learn about it. I cannot tell you about the rich culture of our country. So many people told Me, especially our western Sahaja Yogis, “Mother, please write a book about the specially deep matters about India.” I asked, “What deep matters about India?” They said, “Its culture. Please write a book on Indian culture.” I said, “This is a deep sea. What can I give you from this deep sea? I will have to write volumes of scriptures on that.” I will tell you one very funny incident. There was a foreigner lady who was the wife of an ambassador. She came to meet Me. She was wearing a garland around her neck. She said to Me, “I don’t understand Indians.” I asked, “What happened?” She said, “I went to a flower shop. I saw a very nice garland. So I bought it and wore it. So the girl from whom I purchased the garland started to laugh at me, and on the way everyone who saw me was also laughing at me, just because I was wearing this garland.” I thought, now how do I explain this to her? So I said that it is only when someone is felicitating you, that you are given a garland. You cannot felicitate yourself and wear a garland by yourself. This is funny for our culture.” Then she told Me, “This has a very deep meaning,” to which I agreed. Any Indian would understand that it is not right to put oneself above others, roaming around with a garland around one’s neck. This is highly objectionable in India, because this kind of act doesn’t have humility. It is very important to understand who we are and what wrong identifications we have for ourselves. I would say that the mass movement started by Mahatma Gandhi has reversed its direction and cause. When we were with Gandhiji and stayed with him, his ways and his way of talking were such that, though he studied abroad, he still firmly believed in highlighting Indian culture. Without that, this world won’t survive. If we have to save the world we should have a very strong example of Indian culture and heritage, from where people learn that this is a kind of life and it is so blissful. They had a discipline of waking up at 4 o’clock in the morning at his ashram. You were supposed to wake up, take your bath and go for morning prayers. When we used to sit for prayers there were lots of snakes there. Sometimes snakes would slither near you, but it never happened that even a scorpion bit anyone there, let alone the snakes. This was the extent of purity in the environment. In their prayer sessions people humbly, from all castes and religions, used to sit together and pray, and in the prayer sessions, music was played, including hymns that he wrote. I know how spiritual he was because all the hymns he wrote were about Kundalini power, all of them. He first wrote praises to Shri Ganesha, then praises to Shri Saraswati. Like this, all the songs, devoted to deities established on all the chakras, were written and had to be sung in the same format, chakra-wise, deity-wise. Then from the Bible the Lord’s Prayer was sung, and also prayers from the Holy Koran were sung. Even prayers from Buddhism were sung. The prayer meetings also had hymns and prayers from the Jain religion. They recited prayers to each and every deity sitting on each chakra respectively. He knew about the Kundalini and chakras. He knew all about the Divine. He tried to explain to people about this divine knowledge through his hymns. He used to ask Me a lot about spirituality. Although I was very young then, still he used to ask Me about spirituality and what is so special about our culture. Now it is very important to talk about the culture of our country, because people have now forgotten about Gandhiji. His preaching has been wasted, as his spiritual side is now neglected. In this political life, no one talks about his spirituality. If we Indians won’t take spirituality forward, then who else will? Who else will understand it? You can see that people from 75 nationalities have come and are sitting here. They have come from 75 different countries, spirituality has spread to 75 different nations, and they have all attained their Self-realization. They held very strongly to our culture, not English, or American or French culture, for they saw that the cultures of their own countries are taking them to destruction. This is destroying our spirithood. These cultures destroy our morality. If these foreigners have understood, we Indians should now understand. Instead, we discuss such petty issues where there is no morality in that issue. The biggest gift of our culture is that we should be people with high morals. Moral life has certain norms, but in our country everyone leads a free life. You have full freedom, whether you want to lead a moral life or not, because till the end of your life you have complete freedom to choose. Now you have to understand the meaning of your true Self. To know your Self is the real freedom. “Swa” means your Self, meaning your spirit. To know your spirit is true freedom. Shivaji said about the future, “First know your Self.” You have to know your Self first. This is only Sahaja Yoga. Through Sahaja Yoga you understand your own Self, your own subtle system. To know your Self, the easiest path is our Indian culture. You cannot go to the depth of this culture, because you have been thrown out of it. The biggest mistake was that people who were above us, our leaders, did not have any idea about our rich culture. They placed Gandhiji at one corner and asked him to stay away, and all these leaders, whatever they preached was totally against Indian culture. I am from Chittargarh. You must have heard here Queen Padmini did Jauhar (Rajput women sacrificed themselves in Jawahar Kund, setting fire to it). Padmini did Jauhar (mass suicide to protect chastity) to protect the chastity of women. This is what we believe, that chastity is the greatest power of women. We firmly believe in it in our culture. Any place where respect for and chastity of women is not there, only evil demons and confusing monsters reside. You can witness this clearly happening in America. Such nasty things are happening in America that I cannot share them with you. Mothers even kill their own children. America is such a filthy place. As you have never been there, it seems rosy, but people in America have no fear at all. No fear of God is left in the people there. I am not sure if they are left with any belief in God’s powers. Everything there is all about money. By any method, they just earn money. One fellow is there in America. So one of his followers asked him, “If I pay you so much, can you kill a lady for me?” He replied, “No, no, I cannot kill anyone. I don’t want to kill anyone. Why should I kill anyone?” He said, “For money you kill her, or for the world you kill her.” The fellow who proposed to kill said, “I can kill.” Another one asked, “Why?” “Because money is involved. Money is the biggest thing. So I can kill.” So you can kill your mother also for money. Once a man came here a long ago. He told Me, “Mother, I have killed my own mother.” I said, “Really? So tomorrow you can kill Me also.” A person who can kill his own mother and has no feelings towards his own mother cannot be an Indian, cannot be an Indian. There is a lot written about mothers. We consider mothers to be holy and powerful, and we worship them. In all the scriptures, the first thing stated is about the mother. Everything starts with the mother. In cultures abroad, there is no importance given to mothers. In a lot of countries the country is called by the name of the father. Like we say Mother India, many countries call their land male. One such country is Germany. You all know what Germans have done. They are crying and repenting about what they did, but they did it, after all. Indians can never do this, never. But there is a lot of ignorance in India. I came across a book written about Jaipur. Someone from Jaipur must have written it. I was surprised to see that in the book the author says that regarding the Jauhar that Queen Padmini did in Mewar, it would have been better for her to surrender herself to Khilji (cruel Mughal emperor). She could have been his servant. So this entire war wouldn’t have happened. 32000 women were burnt alive because of what she did. Just see where the author’s sense goes. Maybe we should have compromised on everything. What was the need to fight the British? You could have compromised with them. If we had compromised with everyone, then so many lives wouldn’t have been lost. But what would they achieve just by being alive? Today so many Indians are alive, but what are they doing living like this? What are they going to attain by living like this? Money, money, money. Money has gone into their brains as well, and if we sell our values, we would destroy our entire value system, because of which we are living today, and you should know that the entire world is watching you to see what values you hold today. Anybody can fool you and you fall into their trap. Earlier, the British fooled you. Now again you are being fooled by westerners. People who spread immorality can never be Indians, because without morality you cannot rise. With morals intact you can attain the Divine. If you do not have a moral life you cannot rise to Divinity. You will go to hell. So will your country. In America they have all kinds of freedom. They have to earn money by any means: women may sell their bodies; they open shops to sell liquor; they want to earn money by any means. Today, after earning all that money where do they stand? They are all heavily in debt. The whole country is heavily in debt. A few of our Indian boys came to America. I asked them, “Why have you come here?” They said, “The jobs are good and highly paid. So we came to America.” I asked, “Where has the money gone? Why is everyone here indebted so much? Every child is in debt.” I asked them, “Being an Indian, why are you so much in debt? Think about it. You are highly qualified engineers, doctors and chartered accountants, and came to America with huge debts. Can’t you go back to India?” They replied, “The lifestyle here has a drawback. Everyone tends to get into debt.” Like fools they order everything and they use cards for shopping. Everyone is in debt. No one there has any money. You went there and got huge debts. What did you gain from going there? You haven’t learned anything there, and you are greatly in debt. You have exquisite sofas, carpets and so on, but all through borrowing money.” Being in debt is not considered bad at all, and people are becoming heavily indebted. This kind of culture where immorality is so bad is the place where there is no harmony. Disharmony of this kind is such that people want to show something big, but they are hollow inside; only debts. What can we learn from them? They come here to learn. So what will we learn from them? There is nothing to learn from them. I have no hesitation in saying that there is no country like our India and the culture we have in the whole world. There is no such culture. It is very difficult to reach the depth of our culture as we all are so wasted. People here have demeaned themselves so much that they vote over the issue of onions. The entire world is making a mockery of our country. All My Sahaja yogis who came from abroad brought one packet of onions each with them. You should be ashamed. You should be ashamed of this. People have art to fool others, but to become fools is the quality of Indians. All the foreigners brought huge amounts of onions with them. When I asked why they brought them they said, “In India there is a huge crisis of onions. We heard that people want to change the government over the issue of onions.” I said, “Yes, this is true, but now please don't embarrass us on this issue.” Gone are those days when people used to fight for their country. They used to sacrifice everything for their country. I Myself sacrificed a lot. I was even beaten up for My country. Today, all those who claim the country, have ever their grandparents or their parents done anything for the country? Or have they done anything for the country when there was a struggle for freedom? When people fought for freedom, were brutally hurt, lost their homes, were any of them there then? Now they are claiming the country and saying, “This should not happen. That should not happen.” I am surprised that people are fighting on moral grounds. All the people who were right became spoiled because of today's politicians. Snatch money from people, drink alcohol, take to wrong ways and digest people's money. One thing is there: you should think that if you are a Sahaja yogi then you have to imbibe Indian culture, irrespective of your caste, of your Dharma, or your thought patterns. Otherwise it will not happen. And what is this Sahaj path? You have to understand that we believe in something with full faith, but yet you have not achieved the truth. That is why many corrupt people have come up. Many wrong types of people have come up, done wrong things, messed up a lot of things. It is said that you should attain your Self-realization. You attain your realization. There is no sense in your religion. What you say makes no sense till you have attained your Self-realization. You cannot attain this with intellect. This is beyond intellect. Even Einstein said so. What more proof do you want? This is absolutely beyond intellect, far ahead of mental knowledge. Even If you believe in the physical body, brain and heart, it is not eternal. The Divine is eternal. It is beyond mind. It is called Paramchaitanya. Einstein has called it the torsion area. He was also a Self-realized soul. People claim it is science. How will you attain torsion area? You cannot attain it. You can only get this after your Self-realization. So first attain your Self-realization. To sabotage the Divine, many crooked people popped up in India. Many tantrikas have popped up and are fooling innocent people, living luxuriously and giving diamonds. Innocent people are getting trapped in their malicious games. To attain Self-realization through Sahaja Yoga has become very easy and you can attain the Divine very easily. There is no need for you to stand on your heads. You don't have leave your families, you don't have to sacrifice your children. There is no need to do all this. The power is within you. It is residing within you in a triangular bone in your backbone. I am not saying this Myself. It has been described by old sages for centuries. People used to talk about Self-realization a thousand years ago. People like Machinder Nath and Gorakh Nath reached countries like Bolivia at that time. Even today it is not easy to reach Bolivia. They went to Ukraine also, and some parts of Russia, and told people that they have this power within themselves. They gave the knowledge of the chakras. We are their descendants. What do we know? We know nothing. People in Bolivia know all about the subtle system but they did not know how to enlighten the power of Kundalini. We know all the rest. When I went there it was spreading like fire. They got their Self-realization in huge numbers. Here in India we have no knowledge about our subtle system, nor it is written in our modern books. Nobody shares this knowledge. It is like we are disconnected, disassociated from this great knowledge, and after disassociation from this knowledge, we became mad people of a very different country. We are not westerners or Indians. We turned into something strange. We have no knowledge. People ask me whether Kundalini and Kundli are the same. Nobody has this knowledge. Imagine: this country is the real ocean of knowledge, an ocean full of knowledge. I met a gentleman who came from Mexico who is the Ambassador in India. I told him, “In your country there is a lot of demonology.” He said, “Is there?” I said, “Yes, I went there and saw it Myself.” So he asked Me, “Will it go away with psychology?” I told him, “Psychology or psychiatry is a very basic science. It's a very, very basic science that has nothing in it. If you want to know I will tell you more. Demonology, psychology and psychiatry are mentioned in our books. And I will tell you about it.” He was very curious to know about this, but only if my schedule permits will I take time to tell him about this. Will you people please give this a thought, that in your country this true knowledge is in abundance, and where are you running to? What are you people doing? All those countries, which according to you have risen higher and are very progressive, you should visit those countries. I have visited them. Are the people there happy? If they are happy there, why would they come to India? Why would they come to India to search for true happiness? Today you want a small house, then you want a car, then you need something new, and whatever you get you’re never happy with that. After one thing, you need a second and then a third thing. What is the need to run after mundane things? There is no solution and no satisfaction, but in Sahaja Yoga you attain all this. In Sahaja Yoga you attain complete solutions and satisfaction. The Sahaj path is based upon Indian culture. Western culture will not work in this system. Those who want to come into Sahaja Yoga and attain Self-realization should now take a look at these foreigner ladies who are wearing saris. It does not mean that you should jump like Hare Rama people. It is absolutely not required to do that. You have to attain truth, attain reality. You have to go deep into truth. You have to understand the truth. There is nothing you cannot do, because you are born in this holy land of India. It is written by the sages that you have to do good deeds for thousands of years to take birth in India. Just see what kinds of people are born in India today. In My lifetime I have seen people who have sacrificed their lives for the sake of our country, and now for mundane things like onions. I don't know what to say. This is a matter of absolute shame. Rani Padmini did Jauhar with 32,000 other ladies. The specialization of our country is our value system, our values which will be enlightened only by Sahaja Yoga, because I have seen the same value system being enlightened in western people. These are values which are already residing within us, shining with us, enlightened within us, shining like the sun within us. All these values are within us. Also the earth element has great importance, but if we cover our own qualities, hide our qualities, how will you see these values within yourself? How will you understand about these values? If there is only one kind of curtain over the value system then I should talk about it. Saint Kabir has written very beautifully about Sahaja Yoga but people do not understand it. People don't understand about Ida, Pingala, and Sushumna nadis. People do not know what is Ida and what is Pingala. People know about the nervous system and the autonomous nervous system but these are only Ida, Pingala, Sushumna nadis. They know nothing about it. Kabir has written, “Saiyan nikas gaye the maii na lari thi.” People who live in Lucknow are very romantic. They think that saiyan means that when her lover left she did not cry. I said, “What does Saint Kabir have to do with all this romance? Was he romantic by any chance? He meant by this: ‘The whole of my life went away. I did not fight with death’.” Now think how much we have indulged into illusion, and how much we have changed the real meaning and made it so perverted. He said, “Surati chare Kaman.” He mentioned Surati as Kundalini. Now if you see in Bihar tobacco is known as surati. Now you know what the condition of Bihar is. In Bihar so many great people have taken their birth, like Lord Buddha, Lord Mahavira in one form, and also I think I have seen that Shri Guru Gobind Singh was also there. So many saints have been on that land of Bihar, just like many lotuses in the same pond, and people say these lotuses were born in our pond. But you are still like insects in the same pond. What are you saying? You have to become a lotus. If you want to be a lotus, then get into Sahaja Yoga. To establish in Sahaja Yoga is not difficult but to remain established in Sahaj Yoga is difficult. If a person has a habit of eating food in a particular way, he would not change his way of eating. In Sahaja Yoga you will all become divine. You will all get Self-realization, especially if you are an Indian. By all regards, whichever religion you may follow – Hinduism or Muslim, it doesn't matter – after attaining your spirit you have to establish yourself in it, just as a seed sprouts and grows into a tree. We are left behind, because the environment is so bad in all directions. We think that pollution is about air pollution, but the environment is polluted by our thought processes. The thinking process is also very bad. We get bombarded from all directions, especially from newspapers. The people who work for newspapers are unique. I don't know which country they belong to. I don't think they are Indians. There is nothing about the Indian traditions and value system. A lot of them said, “Mother, we would like to have a seminar of yours in which all our newspaper fraternity will come.” I said, “No, it is not required.” I don't wish to talk to them. It is not in their capacity to understand. Day and night, they only think about how to make people fight, how to create differences. They don't know anything beyond this. Very recently, news reporters from 30 countries came here and said, “Mother, we want to have a meeting with you.” It was very surprising. All the people from 30 countries got their Self-realization. All of them got their Self-realization and felt coolness on their palms, but the people who are very clever and whose brains function in adverse ways spread rumors to all these clever people that Sahaja Yoga cannot benefit them. Sahaja Yoga is not meant for clever people, nor is it meant for idiots. Only those who have a pure desire for attaining Self-realization will get their Self-realization, and then their lives change. Then you start enjoying life, numerous kinds of blessings come your way, and you know that you are being taken care of by God himself and all your life aspects are taken care of by him. All your movements are taken care of by him, and he will stand by you every time. People tell Me, “We used to go to temple every single day and pray really hard but even then Shivaji was not happy with us. This did not happen. That did not happen.” Everybody complained. I told them that they cannot get their connection with him until they are connected to the Divine. People complained that their knees were hurt while praying in mosque. “We did not get Shivaji or God there. We never got blessings anywhere. Nor did we get any peace.” How will you get it if you don’t have any connection there? I don't think so. Anybody who has ever read Koran carefully will understand that it describes all about Sahaja Yoga. How they have risen to seven chakras on a white horse is a description of Sahaja Yoga. All those who are truthful will write only about the truth. Why would they write about things that do not matter? Later they made many rules of behavior to save people, because the people from Arabia did not have much knowledge of principles. Indians know the value of righteousness and the difference between right and wrong. We all know the difference. There was one boy, who went to study in Cambridge. He told Me something which surprised Me, that people in Cambridge think that everything is a challenge. He said, “People there challenged me to take drugs, and when I refused, saying that this is against my value system, the people from Cambridge said, ‘What kind of value system is this? We take drugs. So you should also take them. This is a challenge for you, and a challenge for your value system as well.’” The boy then said, “I don't need challenges.” He told Me, “Mother, westerners think that drinking alcohol is also a challenge. For them, taking drugs is a challenge, getting AIDS is also a challenge.” What kind of thinking is that? For when going to hell is also a challenge, their brains have become corrupted. What more can I say? If someone says, “It's a good thing,” what can you say about that kind of thinking? I tried hard to work on the brains of people suffering from AIDS, but instead they got on My own nerves. They said, “We have made a sacrifice.” Just imagine! I asked, “What kind of sacrifice is this?” “That we are great fighters, we are warriors,” and so on. With folded hands I told them, “You be a fighter and fight for your life.” I also told them, “You cannot go ahead with this kind of attitude.” I am very clear about this tendency of foreigners to do wrong things and see it as a challenge. And they think that Indians are fearful and useless. About this whole episode of price increases for onions, I feel so ashamed what men in this country have done to us, that we have become totally useless. In the city of Delhi we have thousands of Sahaja yogis. Thousands of Sahaja yogis reside in Delhi. Despite that, I don't know how that happened in Delhi. People have lost their brains. In the Punjab they have become insane. I never knew that this would happen so soon. I never expected it. I thought that I should work in foreign countries and then come to India, but by the time I came back the entire Indian community had lost its sanity. I don't know what kind of people are born in India now. You can say that this is the peak of Kali Yuga. I believe this totally as human beings could not have changed so much in these times of Kali Yuga. The minds of people are captured by misconceptions. Once people start believing in misconceptions you cannot see anything in the light of truth, nor can you differentiate between good and bad ,what is right and what is wrong; nor can you differentiate between truth and lies, between what is proper and improper. At the end of this time Sahaja Yoga will be established. It is written in the old scriptures of Nal Damayanti that Nal got hold of Kali's neck and told him, “I will kill you as you have really troubled me, and because of you I got separated from my wife. So I will kill you.” Kali replied, “First listen to my importance, and then you can kill me.” To this Nal replied, “Why should I listen to you? You are such a wicked person.” Kali then replied, “I have a very great importance. During the times of Kali Yuga people will be very confused. Confusion will overtake the minds of people. They will get frightened, and at the same time thousands of people who are seeking the Divine in the center will be blessed. All the people in search of truth will get the experience of their Spirit. They will get their Self-realization. That is why Kali Yuga is so important. Without it this would have never happened. Without Kali Yuga at its peak, human beings will never come and search for their Spirit.” When Kali said this to Nal, Nal let go of him and said, “All right, let your Kali Yuga begin.” So this time of Kali Yuga is directing your attention to your spirit. We should think about where we are going. To walk on the path of Sahaja Yoga you don’t have to do anything. You don’t have to donate money, you don’t have to make sacrifices; nothing like that. You have to awaken the power of Kundalini within you. When the power of Kundalini is awakened it pierces through your head and connects to the divine power spread across the universe. It is very simple that you have never been connected to the power of the Divine, nor have you ever felt the subtle power of the Divine. You have never known the power of the Divine. Without knowing about this divine power, you have been searching for God in temples and doing all kinds of disturbing things. You can see very well what you are doing by going to mosque. What have you got by going there, killing each other? And what are you doing by going to temple, eating away people's money? This is the peak of corruption. Isn't it true that this is all wrong and you’re not going to gain anything out of it? You should do something else. You can see clearly with your eyes. Whatever you see clearly with your naked eyes you should believe. This is not the right path. There is no benefit from it. It's of no use. Whatever you want to learn, you attain oneness with your Spirit. Until then I don't know how far we will go ahead in this darkness. So the first most important thing is to come out of this darkness and get enlightened to what is right and what is wrong. When you get your enlightenment, you get the wisdom to choose between right and wrong. You also establish the power of discretion strongly within yourself to choose what is right for you, and you will never do anything which is self-destructive. Everything you do, you will do with great love and with extreme care. It is very difficult for Me to use harsh words. Today I came prepared to tell you that you have done enough silly things and it’s high time to stop it. Now the first thing you get while walking on the Sahaj path is peace in your heart. Our country is a peace-loving country. We have never looted another country, we have never created problems for another country, we have never tried to capture the land of other countries. Where does this peace come from? For thousands of years we endured so much pain but still we are peaceful. We should know from where this peace-loving quality has come. This is the quality of this Motherland, the quality of the land you are sitting on, that we are peace-loving people. Only if someone attacks us, then we will fight that person. We don’t initiate fights. We don't do this. We don’t follow this kind of system. It is prevalent in other countries but not in our country. To argue with other countries, make statements, drop bombs, we don't do this. This kind of control is natural for us. Once peace is established within us, then this peace is reflected in our houses. Our children become peaceful. It is very important to be peaceful. If there is no peace even the trees do not grow there. There can be no progress there. Everything finishes in killing each other. The peace you get in Sahaja Yoga makes you progress. In Sahaja Yoga so many children have grown so much higher that they never believed they could ever reach those heights. They are completely satisfied people. If I try to give them something, they reply, “Mother, you have given us so much already.” This kind of a state gets established within, and this kind of problem-solving gets established within relations with loved ones (unclear). The biggest thing is that Sahaja Yoga is the gift of divine love. The love which God feels for you, you start feeling that love. There is nothing more powerful than loving this world. The one who understands the value of love knows that there is nothing more important in life. lf the value system gets established, love is that nourishment which enriches the beautiful tree of our country. Mutual love, mutual friendship, become alive. If we had mutual understanding and unity, no one would have ever ruled over us. To attain mutual love, friendship and understanding we need Sahaja Yoga. We need collective consciousness. We need to establish collective consciousness. Who is the other in this relationship? You all become one being. So many people have come from different countries who follow different religions, but you can see the oneness in them, the contentment they have, the thoughtlessness they have. You will not find it anywhere else. You will be surprised how they have all become so united. If you go to any other guru you will see people fighting among themselves or fighting with the guru. All the time there will be fights. But once you attain your spirit in Sahaja Yoga, you understand that we are all small drops in the same ocean. We move with the waves within the ocean, the rise and fall, the movement in the ocean. This beautiful pattern is being established in the society by itself and it will very much happen in Indian society as well. All the wrong kinds of people who have entered the system and think very highly of themselves have not sacrificed anything for the country. They have not struggled for the country. They have jumped on the high positions by doing nothing. That is why it is very important to have devotion towards your country, not merely because this is your country and you are born here, but because India is a very, very great country. I cannot describe the greatness of this country. If ever I have some time I would love to write about the greatness of this country. To know and understand the greatness of this country you have to imbibe Sahaja culture. Then you will be able to understand how deep things are in this country. Our history is so rich in many ways. Patriotism is such an important thing. If you do not have patriotism, then you cannot establish in Sahaja Yoga. Not only do you feel devoted towards your country; even the people sitting here from 75 countries also feel dedicated to your country. They feel so devoted to this country that when they touch the Motherland they bow down and kiss this holy land. Now only these people can teach you that you should understand the power of your country and sing praises to it. I start speaking about the greatness of this country, and I will keep on talking about it. I have come from so far away in the chill of winter. It's a very big thing for a mother to see so many of her children together sitting in front of her. What more can she say? I just want to give you all this blessing that today at this place you get your Self-realization, And I have told you that you have to do nothing. Right now, sitting at the same place, all of you can explore the River Ganges (Purify). You can all feel the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost on your palms. What this breeze is all about is very subtle. Due to the shortage of time today, I will share with you in detail, some day when the time permits, what this is all about. This is the power of the Holy Ghost flowing through us, and you can do lot of things based on this, such as correcting your physical body, and your mental and intellectual wellbeing. You can correct these aspects in other people as well. This is your greatness, and if you still feel like being stuck in the malaise of the world then what can I do about it? I have a humble request that for next 10 minutes you please be patient and try to attain your Self-realization. Whatever I have said, just understand it. It was about preparing you for your Self-realization. This cannot happen otherwise. This is not an award for cowards and this is not something meant for idiots. So kindly accept this, that you all are a Spirit, and to attain the connection with your Spirit is the only goal of your life. There is no other goal. Now I request you to kindly remove your shoes, as this holy land of India is being purified by so many old sages and saints. You will find blessings of pure glory from this land. Now please open both your hand towards Me, your left hand towards Me and right hand towards the fontanel bone area. The fontanel bone was the softest bone in your head during childhood. Kindly place your right hand above it. Now put your right hand towards Me and your left hand above the head. Place your hand above your head. Move your hand, and see if you can feel a cool breeze coming out of your head. Some people feel it right above, some feel it a little towards the back of the head, and some people can feel a cool breeze flowing out very high above their heads. Kindly put your left hand towards Me and your right hand above. Now see if you can feel the cool breeze. It is also possible that you can feel heat coming out of your head. You have to forgive people. Kindly forgive everyone. If you will not forgive you will keep feeling the heat. If you do not forgive what do you do? You are just troubling yourself. So please forgive everyone and you will start feeling the cool breeze. Forgive yourself also. Don't blame yourself that, “I did this, I did that, there are sins I have done.” Please do not think. Forgive yourself completely. Now please put both your hands towards Me. Please put both your hand towards Me. All the people who are feeling coolness or heat on their palms, kindly raise your hands towards the sky. Wow! From the front to the back! My immense blessings to you all. My immense blessings to you all. You have all attained your Self-realization. Your seed has sprouted. Now make sure it gets converted into a tree. What will be more beautiful than this is that all of you become trees from the sprouted seeds here. With this awakening, how long will Kali Yuga stay? Satya Yuga is on its way. Satya Yuga please show its enlightenment. You all are its torches. I have full faith that you will all spread Sahaja Yoga. Each man can enlighten 1000 more men and one woman can enlighten 1,000 more women. You should all give realization to others and help them get realization. I give you all my immense blessings. At the end of the program we all will singing "Vande Mataram". Kindly stand up. We fought for our freedom with the support of this song. Who are you today to deny singing that song? Kindly stand up. This song will be sung by the foreigners. You will be surprised to see to what heights the greatness of our country has reached. Where is the Vande Mataram? School children, please come forward. They will be singing the song. At 6:30, find the school children. I told them earlier. Announcement: Dharamshala school students come forward to sing Vande Mataram. Mother saying in Marathi: Let them come on this stage. Let the students come on the stage. Children, come here on the stage. Call the students on the stage. Announcement: Dharamshala school students, come here. Who will play harmonium with them? Also bring tabla. Mother to students: Now you all have to stand up. Announcement by the leader at the back: Kindly pay attention. Just now you got your Self-realization. The seed has just sprouted. Help it grow and stabilize. For more knowledge on Sahaja Yoga we are holding a follow-up program. So tomorrow, on Saturday 19th at 6:30 pm, we will have follow-up programs in all the centers across Delhi. The pamphlets distributed to you have the centers’ addresses on the back. You can go to your nearest center. So kindly tomorrow come to these centers for the follow-up programs. You all are cordially invited. Thank you. Mother: Align all the young children in the front. Vande Matram – National Song of India. “Vande Mataram! Sujalam suphalam, malayajashitalam, hasyashyalam, Mataram!Vande Mataram, Shubhra jyotsna, Pulakita yaminim, Phulla kusumita Drumadala shobhinimSuhasinim, Sumadhura bhashinim, Sukhadam, varadam, Mataram! by singers -“Vande Mataram! Sujalam suphalam, malayajashitalam, hasyashyalam, Mataram!Vande Mataram, Shubhra jyotsna, Pulakita yaminim, Phulla kusumita Drumadala shobhinimSuhasinim, Sumadhura bhashinim, Sukhadam, varadam, Mataram! Saptakotikantha kalakala ninada karale, Dvisaptakoti bhujair dhrita-khara karavale Abala kena ma eta bale, Bahubala dharinim, namami tarinim, Ripudalavarinim mataram Tumi vidya, tumi dharma, Tumi hridi, tumi marma,Tvam hi pranah sharire! Bahute tumi ma Shakti, Hridaye tumi ma bhakti,Tomarayipratima gari mandire mandire! Tvam hi durga dashapraharana dharini, Kamala, Kamaladalaviharini, Vani, vidyadayini namami tvam, Namami Kamalam, amalam, atulam,Sujalam, suphalam, Mataram, Vande Mataram!Shyamalam, saralam, susmitam, bhushitam, Dharanim, bharanim, Mataram!”“Mother, I bow to thee! Rich with thy hurrying streams, Bright with orchard gleams, Cool with thy winds of delight, Dark fields waving Mother of Might, Mother free. Glory of moonlight dreams, Over thy branches and lordly streams, Clad in thy blossoming trees, Mother, giver of ease Laughing low and sweet! Mother, I kiss thy feet, Speaker sweet and low! Mother, to thee I bow. Who hath said thou art weak in thy lands When the swords flash out in the seventy million hands And seventy million voices roar Thy dreadful name from shore to shore? With many strengths who art mighty and stored, To thee, I call mother and lord! Though who saves, arise and save! To her, I cry however her foeman drove Back from plain and sea And shook herself free. Thou art wisdom, thou art law, Thou art heart, our soul, our breath Though art love divine, the awe In our hearts that conquers death. Thine the strength that nerves the arm, Thine the beauty, thine the charm. Every image made divine In our temples is but thine. Thou art Durga, Lady and Queen. With her hands that strike and her Swords of sheen, Thou art Lakshmi lotus-throned, And the muse a hundred-toned, Pure and perfect without peer, Mother lend thine ear, Rich with thy hurrying streams, Bright with thy orchard gleams, Dark of hue O candid-fair In thy soul, with jewelled hair And thy glorious smile divine, Loveliest of all earthly lands, Showering wealth from well-stored hands! Mother, mother mine! Mother sweet, I bow to thee, Mother great and free!” Bolo Adi shakti Mata ji Shri Nirmala Devi ji ki Jai ,Jai,ki Jai Bolo Adi shakti Mata ji Shri Nirmala Devi ji ki Jai ,Jai,ki Jai Bolo Adi shakti Mata ji Shri Nirmala Devi ji ki Jai ,Jai,ki Jai Sound of conch in distance.

1998 -1217—Public Program DELHI INDIA Sahaji brother: On behalf of all the Sahaja yogi brothers and sisters, who have come to Sahaja Yoga Kendra, Delhi, we welcome Her Honorable Shri Adi Shakti Mataji. For your information, Shri Mataji's schedule is busy, 12 months and 24 hours. Not only India, but in over 75 countries Shri Mataji's work keeps happening continuously. From this busy schedule, Shri Mataji has taken out time for us Delhi people. So, I request all of you to take advantage of the golden opportunity. I request Honorable Shri Mataji to give all of us who are present here the precious knowledge of Sahaja Yoga. 1-st translation of Shri Mataji's speech: Shri Mataji: My salutations to all the seekers of truth. We are searching the truth but we should understand first where this truth is hiding and where exactly we should search for it. You must have noticed that thousands of foreigners from all over the world come here, and when asked the reason for their visit, they say that they have come here in search of truth. “There is no truth in our country, but thinking that there is truth in India, we have come here.” And in search of this truth thousands of people have been coming here for several thousand years. You must have heard in history that several people from China and many other countries came here. And somehow, they knew that the truth is hidden only in this country. And in search of this they used to wander in caves, in the Himalayas, and used to try every possible way to discover this truth, because whatever religion they followed, they knew that just by following the religion they could achieve the truth. This religion is just a guideline, like a sign post, written on the road, showing the way. This cannot lead them to truth. So, to get rid of this incompleteness, they used to come to India in search of truth, and this truth has been in our country and is still here. And it is most necessary to achieve this truth. There is a lot of difference between our system and foreign systems. There, the system of knowledge is such that, if anything is said about knowledge, then immediately they start analysing it and researching it. How correct is it to do such a thing? If Jesus Christ said something, for that also the analysis will start. By this analysis the truth can never be found. Instead, this may lead to the finding of many distorted forms of the knowledge. Now we should think about the system in our country. There is definitely some speciality and sacredness in this country, that so many great personalities, sages and seers have been born here over several thousand years. And this extended up to the 16 century, when great personalities like Guru Nanak were born, and they wrote volumes on truth. Many things were told and explained. But our system is such that we don't negate or discuss the writings of the great personalities and don't try to look at them from the classical point of view because these have been told by people who are at great heights, and if they have written something from that level, we respect and accept it, and follow their footsteps. This is the speciality of our system that with reverence and trust we accept that whatever is written by great spiritual masters is the absolute truth. There is no lie in it. We don't have the right to analyse or crosscheck this, as we are not that wise. We are not that great. Neither do we have much understanding of scriptures, nor we know them in depth. Once we understand this fact, we easily accept the truth with reverence, which has been given to us by the great personalities. In foreign countries also I found that there were great sufis who spoke about Sahaj, nothing but Sahaj. But no one accepts anything told by these sufis in those countries. Very few people respect them, but they also read their poems and entertain themselves; that is all. Like this many sufis were born in great countries. In a place like England also a great saint like William Blake was born. No one understands him. I had not heard his name even in my college days, but I knew he existed. When I went to London for the first time I bought his book. The reason for negating these people is, according to the foreigners, sufis are mad, William Blake is mad, and all the saints and sages also are mad. This kind of egoism which prevails in foreign countries is not seen in our country. Rather, we should say that it was not there before, because now we also are becoming foreigners. We do not know anything about our country. Children in our schools hardly know anything about our country. I asked one of the children, “Do you know anything about Ajanta?" He asked if Ajanta is in India or abroad. The resources of our country are so great, so strong and unshakable, but we do not consider it our prime duty to know about them. We can never discuss the culture of this place. Many people, particularly our foreign Sahaja yogis, requested me to write a book on the strong points of our country. I asked them, “Which strong points are you talking about?” They replied, “About Indian culture. Please write a book on Indian culture." I said, “Our culture is like an ocean. What can I give you from this ocean? I will have to write volumes and volumes on this subject.” Let me tell you something which could be a funny incident for us. Once, a foreign lady came to Me who was the wife of an Ambassador. She was wearing a garland around her neck. She told Me, "I don't understand Indians.” I asked her, "Why? What happened?” She replied, "I went to a flower shop, and I found a beautiful garland in that shop. I bought it and wore it, and the girl who was selling the garland started laughing at me. And everyone I saw on the way also were laughing at me because I was wearing that garland." I did not know how to explain it to her. I told her, “Look, here in India a garland is worn only when someone honours us. You cannot honour your own self. So, if you are honouring yourself and wearing a garland, then it is definitely something very funny for Indian culture, and would make us laugh." She said, “Your Indian culture seems to be very deep." Any Indian will understand that giving importance to your own self, and roaming around with a garland around your neck, is considered a despicable act, because there is no humility in this. We should understand who we are and what we think of ourselves. But I would say, whatever agitation Mahatma Gandhi carried out, regarding this matter, had an adverse effect. When I was with Gandhiji, I found that whatever he did was only to promote the Indian culture, in spite of the fact that he was educated in a foreign country. Without this culture the world cannot exist. If the world has to be saved, then Indian culture should be an excellent example so that others will understand that this is the true life and there is true joy in living like this. And in his ashram, there was a tradition of getting up at 4 in the morning. It was a rule that after getting up at 4 in the morning, you finish with your bath and other things and proceed to the prayer hall. And during the prayer sessions sometimes we could see snakes dancing in front of us. But there is no history of snakes or scorpions biting anyone in the ashram. The environment was so pure there. And people of all castes, creeds and religions used to worship there, with humility. And along with the prayer, music sessions also used to take place. And it is not surprising for Me since I know him so well, that whatever hymns [bhajanavali] he wrote were based completely on the Kundalini and chakras, in order, that is, it was written on one chakra after the other. His first hymnal was on Ganeshaji, the next on Saraswatiji, and this continued with other chakras in ascending order, describing the deities of each particular chakra. And we were supposed to sing in the same order. After that the Lord's Prayer was recited from the Bible, and after that a few verses from the Koran also were included, and there used to be mention of Buddhism and Jainism as well. But the first part of the prayer always used to be about deities present in each and every chakra of ours. He had such a spiritual outlook, and he knew everything about Kundalini and all the chakras. With the complete knowledge, he wrote these verses, in an organised form, and tried to bring this knowledge to the common man. And he used to ask me questions about spiritualism. I was a very young girl at that time but he used to say, “Tell me, which profoundness of Indian culture is special?" Now it is very important to talk about our culture, because people have forgotten Gandhiji. Gandhiji has become totally unimportant because his spiritual teachings are not seen anywhere in today's politics. No one talks about spiritualism. If Indians cannot understand spiritual matters, then who else can? Today you can see that people from 75 countries have come here to attend this meeting, and our spiritual matters have spread in these 75 countries. And these people have got Self-realization, and they are following our culture. They are not following American culture, or English culture or French culture. On the contrary, they say that the culture of their respective countries will take them towards their downfall. This culture kills our spirit, and diverts us from morality. These people have understood this. Now shouldn't we understand? We people give explanations and fight for things which completely lack even the thought of morality. And the greatest thing our culture teaches us is to be moral. There are certain rules in morality. In our country every person has full freedom to either be moral or immoral, because ultimately you have been given the complete freedom. Now you should understand "swa" [spirit] and "tantra" [mechanism]. To know the mechanism of your spirit is the actual freedom. "Swa" means your spirit. To know your own spirit is the freedom [swatantrata]. Shivaji said that in the future you will know your spirit. And that is what Sahaja Yoga is, where you will understand your spirit. And the easiest way to know your spirit is through our Indian culture. You can never get to the depth of this culture because you have been thrown out of it because we are being ruled by kinds of people who have no knowledge of Indian culture. These people have bundled up Gandhiji's teachings and thrown them in a corner, and whatever they are teaching is contrary to Indian culture. For example, I belong to Chittorgarh. You must have heard about Rani Padmini, who jumped into the pyre. She jumped into it along with thousands of other women, to save their chastity, which is considered to be the greatest power of a woman, according to us. Wherever the chastity of a women is not respected, that place is dominated by demons, devils and ghosts of Brahmins [brahmarakshas]. And this truth can be witnessed in America. Many nasty incidents are happening in America, which I cannot describe. The mothers are killing their own children. There is so much of filth there, that people are not scared of doing anything wrong. Since you have not been there it may look like the grass is greener on the other side for you. They are not scared of God. We don't even know if they believe in the power of God. For them everything is money, which has to be achieved in any possible way. I know a person whom an American asked, "If I give you a lot of money, will you kill that particular lady?" This person replied, “No, no, I cannot kill anyone. Why should I kill her?" The American replied, “For the sake of money." He said, "I can never kill anyone for money or any other reason." The American said, "I can kill her, because I will get money. Money is everything." Then, you wouldn't hesitate to kill your mother also. The other day a person came here who said, “Mother, I killed my own mother." I said, "OK, so tomorrow you will kill Me also." A person who can kill his own mother and show disrespect to her can never be an Indian. There are plenty of descriptions of Indian mothers. We consider mothers as the form of Shakti, and we worship that Shakti. In all our scriptures there are descriptions of the mother. Everything starts with the mother, but in the foreign system a mother does not have a place at all. Many of the foreign countries have been named after fathers. For example, we call our country Bharat Mata or motherland. But they claim that their country is masculine. Germany is one among them. You all know very well what Germany did, and now they are suffering for their deeds. Indians can never do such a thing. But there is a lot of ignorance in India. Recently, I came across a book in Jaipur, which must have been written by a local person. In that book he has written that instead of going in the pyre, Rani Padmini could have surrendered herself to Alauddin Khilji and she could have become his slave. There would have been no war in that case. She burnt 32000 women along with her. Where is the wisdom in this? See where these people’s thoughts are going. Maybe we should compromise on everything. What was the necessity to fight with the British? We could have been their slaves as well. If we had compromised everywhere, many people would still have been alive. But what would they achieve by just being alive? Today so many Indians are living, but what good are they doing? What are they going to achieve? Money, money, money; this money has gotten into their brains also. And for the sake of money should we sell our values? Should we completely destroy them? These values are our support system, and you should know that the whole world is waiting to see which value of yours is going to lift you up, and which value of yours is going to awaken you. And you are becoming fools in the hands of everyone. The British tried to fool you and you acted stupid. Whoever is trying to spread immorality in the country can definitely not be an Indian, because without morality you can never rise high. Only with the help of this morality can you achieve the All-pervading Power. If there is no morality in you, you can never become emancipated. You will go to hell, and your country will also go to hell. Like, I have observed that in foreign countries people are given complete freedom. Somehow or other their only intention is to earn money. It doesn't matter if women have to sell themselves or you have to open liquor stores. The only intention is to earn money. And after earning so much money, where does America stand today? Do you know that they are indebted to many countries? The country is sunken in debt. Many of our educated Indians went to America. I asked them, “Why have you come here?" They replied, “There is a lot of money in this country. So we came to earn money." All right, then what happened to all the money? Why is everyone in debt? Every youth is paying off a loan. I said, “You are all Indians. Why are you sinking in debt? You should remember that you people are highly educated engineers, doctors, and chartered accountants, and still you are so deep in debt that you cannot even go back to your country.” They said, “To have a lifestyle of this kind we have to borrow money.” Like fools, they use their credit cards and order this and that and unnecessary things just to match the American lifestyle, and thus they are in debt. You went all the way there, and now you are in debt. What is the use of going there? You could not earn anything properly but you are paying off loans. Yes, you have huge houses, expensive sofas, carpets, this and that, but everything is paid for by loan money. And in that country taking a loan is not considered bad at all. So you also keep borrowing money. We should not be in a place like this where the culture is so unprincipled. I call this as wrath of "aLakshmi", where superficially everything looks beautiful but there is nothing inside except loan. What can we learn from these people? They come here to learn from us, and what can we learn from them? There is nothing to learn from them. We should not be frightened to accept boldly that there is no greater country than ours, and in the whole world there is no better culture then ours. It is very difficult to get to the depth of this culture as we also have become very useless. In India people have become so worthless that they sell their vote just for some onions. Now, Sahaja yogis who came here from outside came with a bag full of onions. I should be ashamed of this. Many people know how to fool others but Indians are expert in being fooled by others. All these foreigners brought along with them bags full of onions. I asked them, “Why have you brought onions with you?" They said, “Because we heard that there is such a shortage of onions in India, that the government is getting toppled because of that. So we brought onions with us.” I said, “That is true, but at least don't embarrass us so much.” Those days are gone when people used to fight for their country and sacrifice everything. We ourselves were among them. Today people who are claiming all the rights in free India, did they or their ancestors ever do anything good for this country? When there was combat in the country, when people were fighting for freedom, getting hurt, going to jail, sacrificing their homes, were any of these people present there at that time? Now they are claiming rights and passing orders that this should not happen in the country, and things like that. I am very astonished to see that to bring unethical things in the country there is so much fighting going on. Today the principle is to spoil the justice lovers by giving them liquor, teaching them ugly things, wrenching money from them and swallowing it yourself. You have to remember one thing, that if you are coming to Sahaja Yoga you have to accept the Indian culture, in spite of your caste, creed, race and religion. Without that, it is not possible to be in Sahaja. And you need to understand what Sahaj Marg is. Consider that we follow a certain thing religiously but we have not achieved it yet. So many fraudulent people have come, giving wrong advice, because of which there is plenty of chaos. So that is why it is mentioned that you get Self-realization. There is no meaning in your religion or your talks unless and until you have achieved Self-realization. This cannot be achieved by your intelligence. Einstein himself has said that this Self-realization is beyond our minds. He also was a Self-realized soul, who mentioned about “torsion area” but people negated him by asking, “Where is this torsion area?" How can you find this torsion area? You cannot find it until you attain Self-realization. So first of all, achieve your Self-realization. For that also many false people mushroomed in our country. Many tantrics grew, who started cheating people by giving them things like diamonds, and people started getting caught in their web. Getting Self-realization has become very easy through Sahaja Marg. Everyone can achieve this very easily. Through this method you don't have to do anything like standing on your head, or leaving the society, your home, or your children. No need to do any such thing. This energy is present inside you. It is present in a triangular bone inside your body. I am not saying this but it has been told by several great personalities from the time of creation. I am very surprised that from India people like Machinder Nath, Gorakh Nath, who used to talk about Kundalini, travelled to places like Bolivia, several thousand years back, which is a very difficult place for us to reach. They went to Ukraine and also to some parts of Russia. And after going there they explained to people that this Kundalini Shakti is inside you and all the chakras are present inside your system. And we people who are their progeny do not know anything about Kundalini. The natives of Bolivia know everything about Kundalini but they say that they do not know how to awaken the Kundalini, though they are aware of the existence of Kundalini. I went to Bolivia only once, and many thousands of people got Self-realization instantly. But we people do not have any knowledge of this, and no one tells us about it, nor it is mentioned in any of our books. It is as if we have been completely severed from that great culture and the great knowledge, and we ourselves do not know what kind of peculiar human beings we have become. We are neither Indians nor English. We do not know to which country we belong to. People also do not know the meaning of Kundalini. Just imagine, people do not know what is this Kundalini which has an ocean like knowledge inside it. Recently a person came here from Mexico, who is an Ambassador. I told him, “Your country is full of spirit science." He said, “Is that so?" I replied, “Yes, I have been to your country and I have noticed this spirit science there.” To that he replied that it can be removed by psychology. I said, “Your psychology or psychiatry is like a child science. There is absolutely nothing in it. If you want to know about psychology I will tell you. The spirit science, psychology, psychiatry, everything, is mentioned in depth in our books. And I will explain that to you." This Ambassador is a voracious learner. Whenever I have time I will explain everything to him. But you people should understand that your country has a treasure of knowledge, and where are you running? What exactly are you doing? According to you, whichever country you think is very advanced and effluent, please go and have a look. I have seen those countries. Do you think they are all happy? If they were really happy why would they come here? Why would they come here in search of joy and happiness? This happiness is something like, you want a house today, then you want a car, then you want this and that. You are never satisfied with what you have. You want this after that, and a third thing next. What is the necessity to run after materialistic things? There is no end to your needs. There is no contentment. But you get all these things in Sahaja Yoga. In Sahaja Yoga you will be completely content and satisfied. But Sahaja Yoga is based on Indian culture. Foreign culture will not work in Sahaja Yoga. Whoever wants to follow Sahaja Yoga should understand this. Now look at these foreign women who have draped themselves in saris. But that doesn't mean that you should jump up and down like the members of Hare Rama Hare Krishna. If you want to get to the reality then you have to get deeper into it and fit into it, and understand it. There is nothing in this which you cannot do, because you are all born in this great country. It is mentioned in scriptures that to take birth in India, you should have done a thousand years of penance. After doing good deeds for thousands of years, this kind of people are there in front of Me. In our lifetime, we have come across people who have sacrificed their lives for the sake of the country. And now, you people are behaving this way, just for some onions? You should be ashamed of yourselves. Padmini jumped into the pyre along with 32000 other women. What is the importance of our country? It is our values. And these values will be awakened in you by Sahaj Yoga, because I have noticed that Sahaj has awakened these values in foreigners also. These values are seated inside us, are shining inside us, glowing and beaming like sunshine. All these values inside us and the greatness of this mother element, along with the values. But if we cover these values like the cloud covering the moon, then how can we see these values? Or how will you understand them when they are covered with so many layers? Kabir Das ji has explained very beautifully about Sahaja Yoga, but people don't understand it. For example, he wrote, "Ida, Pingala, Sukhamana Nadi re". But people started asking, “What are Ida and Pingala?” They know about the nervous system, they know about the autonomous nervous system, but they don't know that the autonomous nervous system is Ida, Pingala and Sushumna Nadis. They do not know anything about that. He [Kabir Das] wrote, “Saiyan nikas gaye, mai na ladi." I call my Lucknow people philanderers because they think the meaning of "sainya" is “Here is some lover, who has left her beloved and she did not cry”. I said, “What has Kabir Das got to do with lover? Was he so romantic?” What he meant in that particular line is that "My whole life went by, I became almost dead but still I didn't fight with death." Just imagine how we have converted this into a perverted meaning. For example, "Surati chadhe kamaan"; according to Kabir Das ji, “surati” means "Kundalini", but people in Bihar converted this to tobacco as surati means tobacco in Bihar. Now look at the condition of Bihar. There were one after the other great people born in Bihar. One among them was Gautama Buddha; Mahavira in a way. I think Guru Nanak also had to do something with Bihar. Many of these kinds of seers were born there, like many lotuses are born in a pond. And people proudly announce that these lotuses were born in our country. But what right have you to say this, because you are still worms from the same place? If you also want to become a lotus, then come to Sahaja Yoga. It is not difficult to come to Sahaja. It is very easy [sahaj], but it is difficult to establish in Sahaj. People who are used to eating their food the difficult way, cannot adopt any easy method to eat it. In Sahaj you will definitely get your Self-realization, without a doubt. Particularly if you are an Indian, you are sure to get it, irrespective of your being a Hindu or Muslim. But after you attain your spirit, you need to settle in Sahaj. Like, there is a seed, and even if it has germinated, it still has to grow into a tree. That is where we stumble, because the whole atmosphere around us is polluted. We think pollution means air pollution, but no, even impure thoughts can pollute the whole society. The process of this pollution is very bad. From all directions we get bombarded by innumerable thoughts and ideas. Newspaper people play an Important role in this. I don't know to which country they belong. They do not look like Indians to me. None of them has any idea about Indian culture. Many people requested me to conduct a seminar where many press people would be invited. I said, "No, no, no, no, no." I will not talk to press people. It is beyond their capacity to handle this. The only thing which is within their capacity is to make one party fight with the other, day in and day out. They cannot do anything else. They cannot do anything else. People from 30 countries had come here. That is, journalists from 30 countries had visited India. And they wanted to have a meeting with Me. The most surprising thing is that all the people from 30 countries who had come here got their Self-realization. All of them felt the cool breeze from their palms. But people who have a cunning nature, who spread false gossip from one place to another, cannot benefit much from Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja Yoga is neither for cunning people, nor for stupid people. Any person can get Self-realization, provided he desires it from the bottom of his heart. After that his life is transformed. He starts enjoying life. After that many blessings are showered on you, and you realise that God is watching you, and managing each and every movement of yours. He is with you in every place. Many people say, “We used to go to temple every day and worshipped Shivaji so much, but still Shivaji was not happy with us. We didn't get this or that." This is a common complaint. But Your connection was not established with Shivaji. People say, “We hurt our knees by kneeling before Shivaji daily and going to temple but still we did not attain God, we did not get any blessings, nor were we peaceful.” How will you get it? Because you have no connection with God there. I think people have not read the Koran properly. If they read it they would understand that the whole of Sahaja Yoga is described in it. Everything is described about Khiyama, how he came on a white horse and crossed the seven stages. This is nothing but Sahaja Yoga. People who are truthful will write true things only, instead of writing absurd things. But later, to save the people, certain rules were changed, because the natives of Arbasthan did not know much about the culture. Our Indian people know what is right and what is wrong. We know everything. A boy who went to Cambridge for higher education tells me that these people [British] consider everything to be a challenge. I asked him, “How?" He replied, “People asked me why I am not taking drugs. I said I don’t take drugs because it is not in our culture. They said, ‘Which culture are you talking about? We all are taking drugs. So you also should take them. This is a challenge for your culture.’ I replied, ‘I don't want to accept your stupid challenge’.” The boy said, “Mother, these people think that consuming liquor is a challenge. Taking drugs is a challenge. Getting AIDS is a challenge for them and maybe going to hell is also a challenge." What else is there to say except that their minds are completely corrupt. If someone thinks all these things are good, then what can be said about them? I tried to talk some sense to the patients with AIDS, but they replied to Me by saying, “We have sacrificed so much". I said, “What have you sacrificed?” They said, “We are great fighters," and so on. I said, “My namaskar to you. You people keep fighting like this and spoiling your lives. What else can I say? You people are not going to move forward. I can see that very clearly." So, this is the kind of attitude people have there, that to do anything wrong is a challenge for them. And they think that Indians are useless and cowards. And after this incident of onions, I feel how these people have humiliated us so much. I feel as if we are very cheap and useless. And in Delhi there are several thousand Sahaja yogis, but still I don't understand how such an incident can happen here, as if they have become brainless; like Punjabis say, they have lost their minds. But I did not expect that this would happen so soon. I thought I would do some work outside Delhi for some time. When I came back I find the whole situation so bad here. I don't know what kind of people have mushroomed here. I should accept that this is the "prime era of downfall" [Ghor Kali Yuga]. Otherwise, it is not possible for human beings to change so fast. And In this Kali Yuga a kind of confusion plays tricks with the mind. When this confusion starts tricking the mind, then the discrimination between good and bad is lost. We don't realise what is proper and what is improper. It has been mentioned that Sahaja Yoga has to come in this era of downfall. In the "Nal Damyanti Vyakhyan", once Nal caught hold of Kali and told her, "I am going to kill you, because you have troubled me a lot, and separated me from my wife. So I am going to kill you." To that Kali replied, “All right. First, you listen to my importance and then you can kill me." Nal said, “What can be your importance, as you are an evil person?” Kali said, “No, I have my own importance, that is, during Kali Yuga, people will become totally confused and exasperated, and at that time, thousands of people who are seeking God and the truth in mountains and caves will be blessed. They will experience their spirit. They will get their Self-realization. So Kali Yuga is very important, without which people cannot seek the truth, or they will not attain or search the truth.” When he heard this, Nal let go of Kali and said, “All right, let your Kali Yuga come.” Now this downfall [Ghor Kali Yuga] has come, and with that Sahaja Yoga also has come, attracting you and asking you to look towards it, without getting entangled in any other web. To come to the Sahaja Marg you don't have to give anything, there is no need to sacrifice anything, and you don't have to pay anything. You only have to awaken the Kundalini which is situated inside you. And when it awakens, it sustains itself in the Sahasrar, and pierces and comes out of the fontanelle bone and unites with the All-pervading Power, which is spread all around. It is a very simple thing. Till now you have never been associated with this subtle energy. You have not experienced this subtle energy until now. You have not known it at all. And without knowing this, you are chanting the name of God, going around to all the temples, and doing all kinds of circus. What happens if you go to mosque? No one is becoming wise. Instead, they are fighting among themselves. And what is the use of going to temple where there is nothing but corruption? Is it not very clear that this is wrong, and there is no use in doing this? Instead, something better has to be done. It is so clearly visible in front of your eyes. We should recognise it when it is so clear. This path is not the right one, there is no use in it, and it is useless to follow this path. Unless we achieve our inner self and get to our spirit, we may get lost in the darkness of this life. So it is very essential for you to enlighten your spirit and recognise in that light, what is good and what is bad for you. When the spirit is enlightened, we develop the power to discriminate between right and the wrong [sat-asat-vivek buddhi], you will do only which is right for you, and you will never do anything which will lead you to self-destruction. Whatever you do will be done with plenty of love and affection. It is very difficult for Me also to speak harshly to you. Today, I had come prepared to tell you very strongly, “Stop being stupid. You have already done enough foolish things." Now, when you follow Sahaj Marg, you attain plenty of inner peace. Our country is a peace-loving country. This country has never created problems for any country, never looted any other country, nor tried to possess the land of any country. How did we achieve this peace? We have struggled for thousands of years, but still how did we get this peace? This is because of the greatness of our land. The land on which you all are sitting is the cause for why we all are peace-loving people. If someone tries to attack us, we definitely respond to them, but we never try to be mischievous to anyone. This kind of system is not there in our country. It is there in other countries but not in ours. We don't provoke any country to fight with others, and we don't bomb any country. We don't do such things. We are self-controlled in these matters. Once the peace inside us is established, our families, which is our small world, also become peaceful, and our children become peaceful. Peace is very essential for our life. Even trees do not grow in places where there is no peace. That place can never advance, and in those places people will destroy themselves by fighting with one another. The peace which you get from Sahaja Yoga makes you progress. There are many youth in Sahaja Yoga who have achieved great heights. They never even dreamt that they would get this kind of name and fame, prosperity and everything else. They are completely satisfied people. If I try to give them something they say, “Mother, You have already given us so much. Now what are You giving again?” This kind of mental satisfaction is established inside us. Contentment leads to mutual understanding, better relationships and love. Most importantly, Sahaja Yoga is a transaction of love. We get the love of the All-pervading Power around us, and there is nothing greater than love in this world. Everything is secondary to a person who understands the importance of love. He establishes all his values on the basis of love. Love is the kind of water because of which our country will grow like a lively and vivid tree. If in the past we had the binding of togetherness and love among one another, then which country would have dared to rule over us? Through Sahaja Yoga we can achieve this togetherness, mutual love and affection, and collective consciousness will be established among us. We all will become one. Now, see that people have come here from different countries, who follow different religions, but the togetherness, unity and contentment which are among this people cannot be seen anywhere else. You will be surprised to see their oneness. If you go to some other guru, you will find that the disciples will always be fighting either among themselves or with the guru. But in Sahaja Yoga, when we become Self-realized, then we start understanding that we are drops in the same ocean in which all are united. We face the agitation of the sea, go up, and come down and again go up. This kind of beautiful society is being organised all by itself, and this will definitely happen in our country. All the wrongdoers, who are claiming the authority of the country, have not done anything for the country, nor they have sacrificed anything. Just like that they are occupying the most responsible seats of the country. It is very essential to have genuine devotion towards our country. Not just because it is our country and we are born here, but also because it is a great country. I cannot describe the greatness of this country, but at some point, if I get time I want to write something about the greatness of this country. To know about this country, you also should have a nature which is related to Sahaja. Only then you can understand how many things have happened in depth in this country, and all that has happened in our history. It is very essential to have patriotism for our country. If you are not devoted to your country you cannot come into Sahaja Yoga. Towards this country, only you people do not have any devotion, but these people [foreigners] have love for your country, and they have accepted Sahaja Yoga in 75 countries. These people love your country so much that whenever they come here, they bend down and pay their homage to this land. Now, only these people have to teach you to recognize your own mother and pay respect to her. I can keep talking on this subject, but it is an honour for Me that today you people have come from such far-off places in this cold weather. If all my children are in front of Me, what more do I need? I can only bless you that today, in this place, and at this moment, all of you get your Self-realization. And for that you don't have to do anything. You will receive it wherever you are seated. And you yourself will feel the cool breeze coming out of your hands. This is a very subtle thing, and this is not the time to explain what this breeze is and how it comes, but definitely I will tell you about it some other time. Because of the impact of the vibrations which are flowing from within us, you can not only correct your physical, mental, and material aspects, but correct others’ problems, too. You are so great, but if you want to get stuck in the mud, what can I do? I request you all to be patient for ten more minutes and get your Self-realization. Whatever I spoke to you till now was to make you ready for the Self-realization program. Without this preparation, you cannot get Self-realization, as this is not the work of a coward, or that of a stupid person. So, with proper understanding, accept the fact that you are a spirit, and the only aim of your life is to attain this spirit. You have no other aim. Now, I just want to tell you that if you are wearing shoes or chappals, please remove them. Like I told you earlier, this land is a holy land where many sages and seers were born, and we have to see what you people can achieve out of this sacred land. Now, please keep your both hands towards Me. Now, keep your left hand towards Me, and keep your right hand on your fontanelle bone, on top of your head, which was a soft bone in your infancy. And now, keep your right hand towards Me and with your left hand check on top of your head, above the fontanelle bone to see If you are feeling a cool breeze. Some people may get the cool breeze much above the head, while some may get it just above the head. So please move your hand a little up and down to feel the cool breeze. Now, keep the left hand towards Me. And again with your right hand check on top of your head whether you are getting a cool breeze. It is possible that you may be getting a warm breeze also, because you have to forgive everyone. Forgive everyone, because if you don't forgive you will get a warm breeze from your head. And if you don't forgive someone, what are you doing? You are doing nothing except troubling your own self. So, forgive everyone and you will get a cool breeze. Forgive your own self also. Don't think, “I did this thing wrong or that thing wrong.” Forgive yourself completely. Now keep both your hands towards Me. Please put both your hands towards Me. And now whoever felt a cool breeze or a warm breeze from both your hands, please raise both your hands. From this side to that side? May God bless you. My blessings to you all. You have all achieved Self-realization. The seeds are germinated inside you. Now, you have to grow this into a big tree. And if as many trees as you people grow here, then how long can Kali Yuga continue? Satya Yuga [age of wisdom and truth] is coming, but it still has to shine its light. You will be the people who will spread the light of Satya Yuga. I have full faith that you people will promote Sahaja Yoga. Each man can be responsible to give Self-realization to 1000 men, and each woman can give Self-realization to 1000 women. And everyone should try to give realization to every other person and see to it that they all achieve their spirit. My blessings to you all. At the end of this program we all will sing “Vande Mataram”. For that you all need to stand up. Who are we to deny this song, which helped us to fight the war of freedom? All of you stand up, and now these foreigners will sing this song, and you will be surprised to see how far the glory of our India has reached. Children should come here who will be singing this song. Sahaji brother: Please pay attention here. Now the seed has germinated, and to improve it and establish your Self-realization and to give you more knowledge about it, we have arranged a follow-up program. So, tomorrow, that is, Saturday the 19th, all the centres in Delhi will have this follow-up program. The addresses of all the centres are on the back of the pamphlet given to you. So whichever centre is near to you, please attend the follow-up program there. All of you are invited. Thank you. 2-nd translation of Shri Mataji's speech: My greetings to all the seekers of truth. We all are searching for truth, but where to search for it, what is the right place for it, where that truth is lying, you all should understand first. Thousands of people come to India, and if you ask them, “Why have you come to India?” they answer, “We are here to search for the truth. In our countries there is no truth, but In India the truth lies. So we are here.” And in search of this truth thousands of seekers come to India, and have been coming for thousands of years. You must have heard that in history, people from China and many more faraway countries used to come to India. I don’t know how, but they all knew that truth is present only in this country. Truth is hidden only in this land. They used to roam the streets and go to the Himalayas, to search for the truth. They made all efforts to find the truth, because people were following different religions, but they knew just by following any religion they would not be able to achieve the truth. Religion is just a path, like what you see on the streets. They are labeled by any name, but we do not get the truth with it. That is why due to this unfulfillment of the truth the seekers used to come over to India. This truth was prevalent in the past and still is prevalent in our country, and to attain this truth is very important. There is a huge difference in the systems used to search for truth in India and the systems abroad. The method used abroad for finding true knowledge is that if someone says anything there, people start analyzing it, how true it is and what is being said to them. Even what Jesus Christ said is analyzed. With this analysis the truth doesn’t come out, but the scorcher side comes out. Now think about the methodology of our country. There is some specialty and purity in this country that so many sages and saints and a considerable number of people have taken birth here for thousands of years, and with the increase of saints, by the 16th century we had seen saints like Guru Nanak and many more who had taken their birth here, and all of them wrote a lot about truth. Many things were explained, but our methodology is such that all that is written by such great souls, we do not analyze what they said. We do not discuss it. We do not want to look at it from a classical angle. They are the people who have attained the Divine. They are placed much higher than others. Whatever they have said, we approve it and walk on the path shown by them. This is the most special methodology of our country, that with devotion and faith we agree that for people who have reached heights in spirituality, whatever they have written is truth and they never lie, and we do not analyze what they have written in books, as we are not experts in that knowledge. We have not attained those heights, we do not have such a great knowledge of our scriptures, and we are not that great. So we follow those scriptures written by these famous saints and sages. 5.45 I noticed in foreign countries as well that that there have been many sufis abroad. They have all talked about Sahaja Yoga, but nobody follows sufis there. Their recognition in foreign lands is very negligible. Very few people follow them. They just read their poems and get entertained by them, but do not follow the path shown by the sufis. In every country there have been sufis who said great things about Divinity. Even in England we had a big saint by the name of William Blake, but no one recognizes his work. We did not hear of him even when we were studying in college, but we knew he was there. When we went to London for the first time, we bought his books there. The reason behind this is that people thought William Blake was mad. All the sufis are considered insane. For the foreigners all our saints and sages are also mad. This kind of egoism that exists abroad is not found in our country. It was not there in the past, I should say. Now we are all turning into westerners. We have no knowledge about our own country. In our school curriculum students don’t know much. I asked one student, “Do you know about Ajanta caves?” He asked Me, “Are Ajanta caves in India or abroad?” The rich heritage of our country is so vast, so deep, so irreplaceable that we do not consider it our responsibility to learn about it. I cannot tell you about the rich culture of our country. So many people told Me, especially our western Sahaja Yogis, “Mother, please write a book about the specially deep matters about India.” I asked, “What deep matters about India?” They said, “Its culture. Please write a book on Indian culture.” I said, “This is a deep sea. What can I give you from this deep sea? I will have to write volumes of scriptures on that.” I will tell you one very funny incident. There was a foreigner lady who was the wife of an ambassador. She came to meet Me. She was wearing a garland around her neck. She said to Me, “I don’t understand Indians.” I asked, “What happened?” She said, “I went to a flower shop. I saw a very nice garland. So I bought it and wore it. So the girl from whom I purchased the garland started to laugh at me, and on the way everyone who saw me was also laughing at me, just because I was wearing this garland.” I thought, now how do I explain this to her? So I said that it is only when someone is felicitating you, that you are given a garland. You cannot felicitate yourself and wear a garland by yourself. This is funny for our culture.” Then she told Me, “This has a very deep meaning,” to which I agreed. Any Indian would understand that it is not right to put oneself above others, roaming around with a garland around one’s neck. This is highly objectionable in India, because this kind of act doesn’t have humility. It is very important to understand who we are and what wrong identifications we have for ourselves. I would say that the mass movement started by Mahatma Gandhi has reversed its direction and cause. When we were with Gandhiji and stayed with him, his ways and his way of talking were such that, though he studied abroad, he still firmly believed in highlighting Indian culture. Without that, this world won’t survive. If we have to save the world we should have a very strong example of Indian culture and heritage, from where people learn that this is a kind of life and it is so blissful. They had a discipline of waking up at 4 o’clock in the morning at his ashram. You were supposed to wake up, take your bath and go for morning prayers. When we used to sit for prayers there were lots of snakes there. Sometimes snakes would slither near you, but it never happened that even a scorpion bit anyone there, let alone the snakes. This was the extent of purity in the environment. In their prayer sessions people humbly, from all castes and religions, used to sit together and pray, and in the prayer sessions, music was played, including hymns that he wrote. I know how spiritual he was because all the hymns he wrote were about Kundalini power, all of them. He first wrote praises to Shri Ganesha, then praises to Shri Saraswati. Like this, all the songs, devoted to deities established on all the chakras, were written and had to be sung in the same format, chakra-wise, deity-wise. Then from the Bible the Lord’s Prayer was sung, and also prayers from the Holy Koran were sung. Even prayers from Buddhism were sung. The prayer meetings also had hymns and prayers from the Jain religion. They recited prayers to each and every deity sitting on each chakra respectively. He knew about the Kundalini and chakras. He knew all about the Divine. He tried to explain to people about this divine knowledge through his hymns. He used to ask Me a lot about spirituality. Although I was very young then, still he used to ask Me about spirituality and what is so special about our culture. Now it is very important to talk about the culture of our country, because people have now forgotten about Gandhiji. His preaching has been wasted, as his spiritual side is now neglected. In this political life, no one talks about his spirituality. If we Indians won’t take spirituality forward, then who else will? Who else will understand it? You can see that people from 75 nationalities have come and are sitting here. They have come from 75 different countries, spirituality has spread to 75 different nations, and they have all attained their Self-realization. They held very strongly to our culture, not English, or American or French culture, for they saw that the cultures of their own countries are taking them to destruction. This is destroying our spirithood. These cultures destroy our morality. If these foreigners have understood, we Indians should now understand. Instead, we discuss such petty issues where there is no morality in that issue. The biggest gift of our culture is that we should be people with high morals. Moral life has certain norms, but in our country everyone leads a free life. You have full freedom, whether you want to lead a moral life or not, because till the end of your life you have complete freedom to choose. Now you have to understand the meaning of your true Self. To know your Self is the real freedom. “Swa” means your Self, meaning your spirit. To know your spirit is true freedom. Shivaji said about the future, “First know your Self.” You have to know your Self first. This is only Sahaja Yoga. Through Sahaja Yoga you understand your own Self, your own subtle system. To know your Self, the easiest path is our Indian culture. You cannot go to the depth of this culture, because you have been thrown out of it. The biggest mistake was that people who were above us, our leaders, did not have any idea about our rich culture. They placed Gandhiji at one corner and asked him to stay away, and all these leaders, whatever they preached was totally against Indian culture. I am from Chittargarh. You must have heard here Queen Padmini did Jauhar (Rajput women sacrificed themselves in Jawahar Kund, setting fire to it). Padmini did Jauhar (mass suicide to protect chastity) to protect the chastity of women. This is what we believe, that chastity is the greatest power of women. We firmly believe in it in our culture. Any place where respect for and chastity of women is not there, only evil demons and confusing monsters reside. You can witness this clearly happening in America. Such nasty things are happening in America that I cannot share them with you. Mothers even kill their own children. America is such a filthy place. As you have never been there, it seems rosy, but people in America have no fear at all. No fear of God is left in the people there. I am not sure if they are left with any belief in God’s powers. Everything there is all about money. By any method, they just earn money. One fellow is there in America. So one of his followers asked him, “If I pay you so much, can you kill a lady for me?” He replied, “No, no, I cannot kill anyone. I don’t want to kill anyone. Why should I kill anyone?” He said, “For money you kill her, or for the world you kill her.” The fellow who proposed to kill said, “I can kill.” Another one asked, “Why?” “Because money is involved. Money is the biggest thing. So I can kill.” So you can kill your mother also for money. Once a man came here a long ago. He told Me, “Mother, I have killed my own mother.” I said, “Really? So tomorrow you can kill Me also.” A person who can kill his own mother and has no feelings towards his own mother cannot be an Indian, cannot be an Indian. There is a lot written about mothers. We consider mothers to be holy and powerful, and we worship them. In all the scriptures, the first thing stated is about the mother. Everything starts with the mother. In cultures abroad, there is no importance given to mothers. In a lot of countries the country is called by the name of the father. Like we say Mother India, many countries call their land male. One such country is Germany. You all know what Germans have done. They are crying and repenting about what they did, but they did it, after all. Indians can never do this, never. But there is a lot of ignorance in India. I came across a book written about Jaipur. Someone from Jaipur must have written it. I was surprised to see that in the book the author says that regarding the Jauhar that Queen Padmini did in Mewar, it would have been better for her to surrender herself to Khilji (cruel Mughal emperor). She could have been his servant. So this entire war wouldn’t have happened. 32000 women were burnt alive because of what she did. Just see where the author’s sense goes. Maybe we should have compromised on everything. What was the need to fight the British? You could have compromised with them. If we had compromised with everyone, then so many lives wouldn’t have been lost. But what would they achieve just by being alive? Today so many Indians are alive, but what are they doing living like this? What are they going to attain by living like this? Money, money, money. Money has gone into their brains as well, and if we sell our values, we would destroy our entire value system, because of which we are living today, and you should know that the entire world is watching you to see what values you hold today. Anybody can fool you and you fall into their trap. Earlier, the British fooled you. Now again you are being fooled by westerners. People who spread immorality can never be Indians, because without morality you cannot rise. With morals intact you can attain the Divine. If you do not have a moral life you cannot rise to Divinity. You will go to hell. So will your country. In America they have all kinds of freedom. They have to earn money by any means: women may sell their bodies; they open shops to sell liquor; they want to earn money by any means. Today, after earning all that money where do they stand? They are all heavily in debt. The whole country is heavily in debt. A few of our Indian boys came to America. I asked them, “Why have you come here?” They said, “The jobs are good and highly paid. So we came to America.” I asked, “Where has the money gone? Why is everyone here indebted so much? Every child is in debt.” I asked them, “Being an Indian, why are you so much in debt? Think about it. You are highly qualified engineers, doctors and chartered accountants, and came to America with huge debts. Can’t you go back to India?” They replied, “The lifestyle here has a drawback. Everyone tends to get into debt.” Like fools they order everything and they use cards for shopping. Everyone is in debt. No one there has any money. You went there and got huge debts. What did you gain from going there? You haven’t learned anything there, and you are greatly in debt. You have exquisite sofas, carpets and so on, but all through borrowing money.” Being in debt is not considered bad at all, and people are becoming heavily indebted. This kind of culture where immorality is so bad is the place where there is no harmony. Disharmony of this kind is such that people want to show something big, but they are hollow inside; only debts. What can we learn from them? They come here to learn. So what will we learn from them? There is nothing to learn from them. I have no hesitation in saying that there is no country like our India and the culture we have in the whole world. There is no such culture. It is very difficult to reach the depth of our culture as we all are so wasted. People here have demeaned themselves so much that they vote over the issue of onions. The entire world is making a mockery of our country. All My Sahaja yogis who came from abroad brought one packet of onions each with them. You should be ashamed. You should be ashamed of this. People have art to fool others, but to become fools is the quality of Indians. All the foreigners brought huge amounts of onions with them. When I asked why they brought them they said, “In India there is a huge crisis of onions. We heard that people want to change the government over the issue of onions.” I said, “Yes, this is true, but now please don't embarrass us on this issue.” Gone are those days when people used to fight for their country. They used to sacrifice everything for their country. I Myself sacrificed a lot. I was even beaten up for My country. Today, all those who claim the country, have ever their grandparents or their parents done anything for the country? Or have they done anything for the country when there was a struggle for freedom? When people fought for freedom, were brutally hurt, lost their homes, were any of them there then? Now they are claiming the country and saying, “This should not happen. That should not happen.” I am surprised that people are fighting on moral grounds. All the people who were right became spoiled because of today's politicians. Snatch money from people, drink alcohol, take to wrong ways and digest people's money. One thing is there: you should think that if you are a Sahaja yogi then you have to imbibe Indian culture, irrespective of your caste, of your Dharma, or your thought patterns. Otherwise it will not happen. And what is this Sahaj path? You have to understand that we believe in something with full faith, but yet you have not achieved the truth. That is why many corrupt people have come up. Many wrong types of people have come up, done wrong things, messed up a lot of things. It is said that you should attain your Self-realization. You attain your realization. There is no sense in your religion. What you say makes no sense till you have attained your Self-realization. You cannot attain this with intellect. This is beyond intellect. Even Einstein said so. What more proof do you want? This is absolutely beyond intellect, far ahead of mental knowledge. Even If you believe in the physical body, brain and heart, it is not eternal. The Divine is eternal. It is beyond mind. It is called Paramchaitanya. Einstein has called it the torsion area. He was also a Self-realized soul. People claim it is science. How will you attain torsion area? You cannot attain it. You can only get this after your Self-realization. So first attain your Self-realization. To sabotage the Divine, many crooked people popped up in India. Many tantrikas have popped up and are fooling innocent people, living luxuriously and giving diamonds. Innocent people are getting trapped in their malicious games. To attain Self-realization through Sahaja Yoga has become very easy and you can attain the Divine very easily. There is no need for you to stand on your heads. You don't have leave your families, you don't have to sacrifice your children. There is no need to do all this. The power is within you. It is residing within you in a triangular bone in your backbone. I am not saying this Myself. It has been described by old sages for centuries. People used to talk about Self-realization a thousand years ago. People like Machinder Nath and Gorakh Nath reached countries like Bolivia at that time. Even today it is not easy to reach Bolivia. They went to Ukraine also, and some parts of Russia, and told people that they have this power within themselves. They gave the knowledge of the chakras. We are their descendants. What do we know? We know nothing. People in Bolivia know all about the subtle system but they did not know how to enlighten the power of Kundalini. We know all the rest. When I went there it was spreading like fire. They got their Self-realization in huge numbers. Here in India we have no knowledge about our subtle system, nor it is written in our modern books. Nobody shares this knowledge. It is like we are disconnected, disassociated from this great knowledge, and after disassociation from this knowledge, we became mad people of a very different country. We are not westerners or Indians. We turned into something strange. We have no knowledge. People ask me whether Kundalini and Kundli are the same. Nobody has this knowledge. Imagine: this country is the real ocean of knowledge, an ocean full of knowledge. I met a gentleman who came from Mexico who is the Ambassador in India. I told him, “In your country there is a lot of demonology.” He said, “Is there?” I said, “Yes, I went there and saw it Myself.” So he asked Me, “Will it go away with psychology?” I told him, “Psychology or psychiatry is a very basic science. It's a very, very basic science that has nothing in it. If you want to know I will tell you more. Demonology, psychology and psychiatry are mentioned in our books. And I will tell you about it.” He was very curious to know about this, but only if my schedule permits will I take time to tell him about this. Will you people please give this a thought, that in your country this true knowledge is in abundance, and where are you running to? What are you people doing? All those countries, which according to you have risen higher and are very progressive, you should visit those countries. I have visited them. Are the people there happy? If they are happy there, why would they come to India? Why would they come to India to search for true happiness? Today you want a small house, then you want a car, then you need something new, and whatever you get you’re never happy with that. After one thing, you need a second and then a third thing. What is the need to run after mundane things? There is no solution and no satisfaction, but in Sahaja Yoga you attain all this. In Sahaja Yoga you attain complete solutions and satisfaction. The Sahaj path is based upon Indian culture. Western culture will not work in this system. Those who want to come into Sahaja Yoga and attain Self-realization should now take a look at these foreigner ladies who are wearing saris. It does not mean that you should jump like Hare Rama people. It is absolutely not required to do that. You have to attain truth, attain reality. You have to go deep into truth. You have to understand the truth. There is nothing you cannot do, because you are born in this holy land of India. It is written by the sages that you have to do good deeds for thousands of years to take birth in India. Just see what kinds of people are born in India today. In My lifetime I have seen people who have sacrificed their lives for the sake of our country, and now for mundane things like onions. I don't know what to say. This is a matter of absolute shame. Rani Padmini did Jauhar with 32,000 other ladies. The specialization of our country is our value system, our values which will be enlightened only by Sahaja Yoga, because I have seen the same value system being enlightened in western people. These are values which are already residing within us, shining with us, enlightened within us, shining like the sun within us. All these values are within us. Also the earth element has great importance, but if we cover our own qualities, hide our qualities, how will you see these values within yourself? How will you understand about these values? If there is only one kind of curtain over the value system then I should talk about it. Saint Kabir has written very beautifully about Sahaja Yoga but people do not understand it. People don't understand about Ida, Pingala, and Sushumna nadis. People do not know what is Ida and what is Pingala. People know about the nervous system and the autonomous nervous system but these are only Ida, Pingala, Sushumna nadis. They know nothing about it. Kabir has written, “Saiyan nikas gaye the maii na lari thi.” People who live in Lucknow are very romantic. They think that saiyan means that when her lover left she did not cry. I said, “What does Saint Kabir have to do with all this romance? Was he romantic by any chance? He meant by this: ‘The whole of my life went away. I did not fight with death’.” Now think how much we have indulged into illusion, and how much we have changed the real meaning and made it so perverted. He said, “Surati chare Kaman.” He mentioned Surati as Kundalini. Now if you see in Bihar tobacco is known as surati. Now you know what the condition of Bihar is. In Bihar so many great people have taken their birth, like Lord Buddha, Lord Mahavira in one form, and also I think I have seen that Shri Guru Gobind Singh was also there. So many saints have been on that land of Bihar, just like many lotuses in the same pond, and people say these lotuses were born in our pond. But you are still like insects in the same pond. What are you saying? You have to become a lotus. If you want to be a lotus, then get into Sahaja Yoga. To establish in Sahaja Yoga is not difficult but to remain established in Sahaj Yoga is difficult. If a person has a habit of eating food in a particular way, he would not change his way of eating. In Sahaja Yoga you will all become divine. You will all get Self-realization, especially if you are an Indian. By all regards, whichever religion you may follow – Hinduism or Muslim, it doesn't matter – after attaining your spirit you have to establish yourself in it, just as a seed sprouts and grows into a tree. We are left behind, because the environment is so bad in all directions. We think that pollution is about air pollution, but the environment is polluted by our thought processes. The thinking process is also very bad. We get bombarded from all directions, especially from newspapers. The people who work for newspapers are unique. I don't know which country they belong to. I don't think they are Indians. There is nothing about the Indian traditions and value system. A lot of them said, “Mother, we would like to have a seminar of yours in which all our newspaper fraternity will come.” I said, “No, it is not required.” I don't wish to talk to them. It is not in their capacity to understand. Day and night, they only think about how to make people fight, how to create differences. They don't know anything beyond this. Very recently, news reporters from 30 countries came here and said, “Mother, we want to have a meeting with you.” It was very surprising. All the people from 30 countries got their Self-realization. All of them got their Self-realization and felt coolness on their palms, but the people who are very clever and whose brains function in adverse ways spread rumors to all these clever people that Sahaja Yoga cannot benefit them. Sahaja Yoga is not meant for clever people, nor is it meant for idiots. Only those who have a pure desire for attaining Self-realization will get their Self-realization, and then their lives change. Then you start enjoying life, numerous kinds of blessings come your way, and you know that you are being taken care of by God himself and all your life aspects are taken care of by him. All your movements are taken care of by him, and he will stand by you every time. People tell Me, “We used to go to temple every single day and pray really hard but even then Shivaji was not happy with us. This did not happen. That did not happen.” Everybody complained. I told them that they cannot get their connection with him until they are connected to the Divine. People complained that their knees were hurt while praying in mosque. “We did not get Shivaji or God there. We never got blessings anywhere. Nor did we get any peace.” How will you get it if you don’t have any connection there? I don't think so. Anybody who has ever read Koran carefully will understand that it describes all about Sahaja Yoga. How they have risen to seven chakras on a white horse is a description of Sahaja Yoga. All those who are truthful will write only about the truth. Why would they write about things that do not matter? Later they made many rules of behavior to save people, because the people from Arabia did not have much knowledge of principles. Indians know the value of righteousness and the difference between right and wrong. We all know the difference. There was one boy, who went to study in Cambridge. He told Me something which surprised Me, that people in Cambridge think that everything is a challenge. He said, “People there challenged me to take drugs, and when I refused, saying that this is against my value system, the people from Cambridge said, ‘What kind of value system is this? We take drugs. So you should also take them. This is a challenge for you, and a challenge for your value system as well.’” The boy then said, “I don't need challenges.” He told Me, “Mother, westerners think that drinking alcohol is also a challenge. For them, taking drugs is a challenge, getting AIDS is also a challenge.” What kind of thinking is that? For when going to hell is also a challenge, their brains have become corrupted. What more can I say? If someone says, “It's a good thing,” what can you say about that kind of thinking? I tried hard to work on the brains of people suffering from AIDS, but instead they got on My own nerves. They said, “We have made a sacrifice.” Just imagine! I asked, “What kind of sacrifice is this?” “That we are great fighters, we are warriors,” and so on. With folded hands I told them, “You be a fighter and fight for your life.” I also told them, “You cannot go ahead with this kind of attitude.” I am very clear about this tendency of foreigners to do wrong things and see it as a challenge. And they think that Indians are fearful and useless. About this whole episode of price increases for onions, I feel so ashamed what men in this country have done to us, that we have become totally useless. In the city of Delhi we have thousands of Sahaja yogis. Thousands of Sahaja yogis reside in Delhi. Despite that, I don't know how that happened in Delhi. People have lost their brains. In the Punjab they have become insane. I never knew that this would happen so soon. I never expected it. I thought that I should work in foreign countries and then come to India, but by the time I came back the entire Indian community had lost its sanity. I don't know what kind of people are born in India now. You can say that this is the peak of Kali Yuga. I believe this totally as human beings could not have changed so much in these times of Kali Yuga. The minds of people are captured by misconceptions. Once people start believing in misconceptions you cannot see anything in the light of truth, nor can you differentiate between good and bad ,what is right and what is wrong; nor can you differentiate between truth and lies, between what is proper and improper. At the end of this time Sahaja Yoga will be established. It is written in the old scriptures of Nal Damayanti that Nal got hold of Kali's neck and told him, “I will kill you as you have really troubled me, and because of you I got separated from my wife. So I will kill you.” Kali replied, “First listen to my importance, and then you can kill me.” To this Nal replied, “Why should I listen to you? You are such a wicked person.” Kali then replied, “I have a very great importance. During the times of Kali Yuga people will be very confused. Confusion will overtake the minds of people. They will get frightened, and at the same time thousands of people who are seeking the Divine in the center will be blessed. All the people in search of truth will get the experience of their Spirit. They will get their Self-realization. That is why Kali Yuga is so important. Without it this would have never happened. Without Kali Yuga at its peak, human beings will never come and search for their Spirit.” When Kali said this to Nal, Nal let go of him and said, “All right, let your Kali Yuga begin.” So this time of Kali Yuga is directing your attention to your spirit. We should think about where we are going. To walk on the path of Sahaja Yoga you don’t have to do anything. You don’t have to donate money, you don’t have to make sacrifices; nothing like that. You have to awaken the power of Kundalini within you. When the power of Kundalini is awakened it pierces through your head and connects to the divine power spread across the universe. It is very simple that you have never been connected to the power of the Divine, nor have you ever felt the subtle power of the Divine. You have never known the power of the Divine. Without knowing about this divine power, you have been searching for God in temples and doing all kinds of disturbing things. You can see very well what you are doing by going to mosque. What have you got by going there, killing each other? And what are you doing by going to temple, eating away people's money? This is the peak of corruption. Isn't it true that this is all wrong and you’re not going to gain anything out of it? You should do something else. You can see clearly with your eyes. Whatever you see clearly with your naked eyes you should believe. This is not the right path. There is no benefit from it. It's of no use. Whatever you want to learn, you attain oneness with your Spirit. Until then I don't know how far we will go ahead in this darkness. So the first most important thing is to come out of this darkness and get enlightened to what is right and what is wrong. When you get your enlightenment, you get the wisdom to choose between right and wrong. You also establish the power of discretion strongly within yourself to choose what is right for you, and you will never do anything which is self-destructive. Everything you do, you will do with great love and with extreme care. It is very difficult for Me to use harsh words. Today I came prepared to tell you that you have done enough silly things and it’s high time to stop it. Now the first thing you get while walking on the Sahaj path is peace in your heart. Our country is a peace-loving country. We have never looted another country, we have never created problems for another country, we have never tried to capture the land of other countries. Where does this peace come from? For thousands of years we endured so much pain but still we are peaceful. We should know from where this peace-loving quality has come. This is the quality of this Motherland, the quality of the land you are sitting on, that we are peace-loving people. Only if someone attacks us, then we will fight that person. We don’t initiate fights. We don't do this. We don’t follow this kind of system. It is prevalent in other countries but not in our country. To argue with other countries, make statements, drop bombs, we don't do this. This kind of control is natural for us. Once peace is established within us, then this peace is reflected in our houses. Our children become peaceful. It is very important to be peaceful. If there is no peace even the trees do not grow there. There can be no progress there. Everything finishes in killing each other. The peace you get in Sahaja Yoga makes you progress. In Sahaja Yoga so many children have grown so much higher that they never believed they could ever reach those heights. They are completely satisfied people. If I try to give them something, they reply, “Mother, you have given us so much already.” This kind of a state gets established within, and this kind of problem-solving gets established within relations with loved ones (unclear). The biggest thing is that Sahaja Yoga is the gift of divine love. The love which God feels for you, you start feeling that love. There is nothing more powerful than loving this world. The one who understands the value of love knows that there is nothing more important in life. lf the value system gets established, love is that nourishment which enriches the beautiful tree of our country. Mutual love, mutual friendship, become alive. If we had mutual understanding and unity, no one would have ever ruled over us. To attain mutual love, friendship and understanding we need Sahaja Yoga. We need collective consciousness. We need to establish collective consciousness. Who is the other in this relationship? You all become one being. So many people have come from different countries who follow different religions, but you can see the oneness in them, the contentment they have, the thoughtlessness they have. You will not find it anywhere else. You will be surprised how they have all become so united. If you go to any other guru you will see people fighting among themselves or fighting with the guru. All the time there will be fights. But once you attain your spirit in Sahaja Yoga, you understand that we are all small drops in the same ocean. We move with the waves within the ocean, the rise and fall, the movement in the ocean. This beautiful pattern is being established in the society by itself and it will very much happen in Indian society as well. All the wrong kinds of people who have entered the system and think very highly of themselves have not sacrificed anything for the country. They have not struggled for the country. They have jumped on the high positions by doing nothing. That is why it is very important to have devotion towards your country, not merely because this is your country and you are born here, but because India is a very, very great country. I cannot describe the greatness of this country. If ever I have some time I would love to write about the greatness of this country. To know and understand the greatness of this country you have to imbibe Sahaja culture. Then you will be able to understand how deep things are in this country. Our history is so rich in many ways. Patriotism is such an important thing. If you do not have patriotism, then you cannot establish in Sahaja Yoga. Not only do you feel devoted towards your country; even the people sitting here from 75 countries also feel dedicated to your country. They feel so devoted to this country that when they touch the Motherland they bow down and kiss this holy land. Now only these people can teach you that you should understand the power of your country and sing praises to it. I start speaking about the greatness of this country, and I will keep on talking about it. I have come from so far away in the chill of winter. It's a very big thing for a mother to see so many of her children together sitting in front of her. What more can she say? I just want to give you all this blessing that today at this place you get your Self-realization, And I have told you that you have to do nothing. Right now, sitting at the same place, all of you can explore the River Ganges (Purify). You can all feel the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost on your palms. What this breeze is all about is very subtle. Due to the shortage of time today, I will share with you in detail, some day when the time permits, what this is all about. This is the power of the Holy Ghost flowing through us, and you can do lot of things based on this, such as correcting your physical body, and your mental and intellectual wellbeing. You can correct these aspects in other people as well. This is your greatness, and if you still feel like being stuck in the malaise of the world then what can I do about it? I have a humble request that for next 10 minutes you please be patient and try to attain your Self-realization. Whatever I have said, just understand it. It was about preparing you for your Self-realization. This cannot happen otherwise. This is not an award for cowards and this is not something meant for idiots. So kindly accept this, that you all are a Spirit, and to attain the connection with your Spirit is the only goal of your life. There is no other goal. Now I request you to kindly remove your shoes, as this holy land of India is being purified by so many old sages and saints. You will find blessings of pure glory from this land. Now please open both your hand towards Me, your left hand towards Me and right hand towards the fontanel bone area. The fontanel bone was the softest bone in your head during childhood. Kindly place your right hand above it. Now put your right hand towards Me and your left hand above the head. Place your hand above your head. Move your hand, and see if you can feel a cool breeze coming out of your head. Some people feel it right above, some feel it a little towards the back of the head, and some people can feel a cool breeze flowing out very high above their heads. Kindly put your left hand towards Me and your right hand above. Now see if you can feel the cool breeze. It is also possible that you can feel heat coming out of your head. You have to forgive people. Kindly forgive everyone. If you will not forgive you will keep feeling the heat. If you do not forgive what do you do? You are just troubling yourself. So please forgive everyone and you will start feeling the cool breeze. Forgive yourself also. Don't blame yourself that, “I did this, I did that, there are sins I have done.” Please do not think. Forgive yourself completely. Now please put both your hands towards Me. Please put both your hand towards Me. All the people who are feeling coolness or heat on their palms, kindly raise your hands towards the sky. Wow! From the front to the back! My immense blessings to you all. My immense blessings to you all. You have all attained your Self-realization. Your seed has sprouted. Now make sure it gets converted into a tree. What will be more beautiful than this is that all of you become trees from the sprouted seeds here. With this awakening, how long will Kali Yuga stay? Satya Yuga is on its way. Satya Yuga please show its enlightenment. You all are its torches. I have full faith that you will all spread Sahaja Yoga. Each man can enlighten 1000 more men and one woman can enlighten 1,000 more women. You should all give realization to others and help them get realization. I give you all my immense blessings. At the end of the program we all will singing "Vande Mataram". Kindly stand up. We fought for our freedom with the support of this song. Who are you today to deny singing that song? Kindly stand up. This song will be sung by the foreigners. You will be surprised to see to what heights the greatness of our country has reached. Where is the Vande Mataram? School children, please come forward. They will be singing the song. At 6:30, find the school children. I told them earlier. Announcement: Dharamshala school students come forward to sing Vande Mataram. Mother saying in Marathi: Let them come on this stage. Let the students come on the stage. Children, come here on the stage. Call the students on the stage. Announcement: Dharamshala school students, come here. Who will play harmonium with them? Also bring tabla. Mother to students: Now you all have to stand up. Announcement by the leader at the back: Kindly pay attention. Just now you got your Self-realization. The seed has just sprouted. Help it grow and stabilize. For more knowledge on Sahaja Yoga we are holding a follow-up program. So tomorrow, on Saturday 19th at 6:30 pm, we will have follow-up programs in all the centers across Delhi. The pamphlets distributed to you have the centers’ addresses on the back. You can go to your nearest center. So kindly tomorrow come to these centers for the follow-up programs. You all are cordially invited. Thank you. Mother: Align all the young children in the front. Vande Matram – National Song of India. “Vande Mataram! Sujalam suphalam, malayajashitalam, hasyashyalam, Mataram!Vande Mataram, Shubhra jyotsna, Pulakita yaminim, Phulla kusumita Drumadala shobhinimSuhasinim, Sumadhura bhashinim, Sukhadam, varadam, Mataram! by singers -“Vande Mataram! Sujalam suphalam, malayajashitalam, hasyashyalam, Mataram!Vande Mataram, Shubhra jyotsna, Pulakita yaminim, Phulla kusumita Drumadala shobhinimSuhasinim, Sumadhura bhashinim, Sukhadam, varadam, Mataram! Saptakotikantha kalakala ninada karale, Dvisaptakoti bhujair dhrita-khara karavale Abala kena ma eta bale, Bahubala dharinim, namami tarinim, Ripudalavarinim mataram Tumi vidya, tumi dharma, Tumi hridi, tumi marma,Tvam hi pranah sharire! Bahute tumi ma Shakti, Hridaye tumi ma bhakti,Tomarayipratima gari mandire mandire! Tvam hi durga dashapraharana dharini, Kamala, Kamaladalaviharini, Vani, vidyadayini namami tvam, Namami Kamalam, amalam, atulam,Sujalam, suphalam, Mataram, Vande Mataram!Shyamalam, saralam, susmitam, bhushitam, Dharanim, bharanim, Mataram!”“Mother, I bow to thee! Rich with thy hurrying streams, Bright with orchard gleams, Cool with thy winds of delight, Dark fields waving Mother of Might, Mother free. Glory of moonlight dreams, Over thy branches and lordly streams, Clad in thy blossoming trees, Mother, giver of ease Laughing low and sweet! Mother, I kiss thy feet, Speaker sweet and low! Mother, to thee I bow. Who hath said thou art weak in thy lands When the swords flash out in the seventy million hands And seventy million voices roar Thy dreadful name from shore to shore? With many strengths who art mighty and stored, To thee, I call mother and lord! Though who saves, arise and save! To her, I cry however her foeman drove Back from plain and sea And shook herself free. Thou art wisdom, thou art law, Thou art heart, our soul, our breath Though art love divine, the awe In our hearts that conquers death. Thine the strength that nerves the arm, Thine the beauty, thine the charm. Every image made divine In our temples is but thine. Thou art Durga, Lady and Queen. With her hands that strike and her Swords of sheen, Thou art Lakshmi lotus-throned, And the muse a hundred-toned, Pure and perfect without peer, Mother lend thine ear, Rich with thy hurrying streams, Bright with thy orchard gleams, Dark of hue O candid-fair In thy soul, with jewelled hair And thy glorious smile divine, Loveliest of all earthly lands, Showering wealth from well-stored hands! Mother, mother mine! Mother sweet, I bow to thee, Mother great and free!” Bolo Adi shakti Mata ji Shri Nirmala Devi ji ki Jai ,Jai,ki Jai Bolo Adi shakti Mata ji Shri Nirmala Devi ji ki Jai ,Jai,ki Jai Bolo Adi shakti Mata ji Shri Nirmala Devi ji ki Jai ,Jai,ki Jai Sound of conch in distance.

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Evening Program, Eve of Christmas Puja. Ganapatipule (Maharashtra, India), 24 December 1998. It is very difficult to describe this inner joy. You can only enjoy it, you can only feel it. It's something so innate to see that so many of you have learnt this difficult music and all of you have been enjoying it. I went to various places in the West and I felt that, “Why even small little children, boys and girls, take to something which is self-destructive? Why? Why do they take to drugs? Why do they take to all these things which are self-destructive.” I mean, you could blame the parents to some extent but on the whole, there was something within them which was troubling them, which was trying to say that, “That's not true. That's not the thing, that's not the thing that you want.” And that's what made them go into all kinds of various types of rebellion, I should say, against all the accepted truths or accepted goodness or value system. And I just thought that, of course, in India the parents are rather strict, I must say 'right', but there's one more thing in India: there's a big outlet for them and I found that outlet was the talent that they had. They had lots of talents, all of them, I felt when I talked to them and this and that. I felt that they have lots of talent but there is no way to express it. Certain people have been doing some sort of an haphazard expression, I should say. And they could not understand themselves why they were doing it. And this was the main thing that was lacking, I think, in the West that the children had no way of expressing themselves, of expressing their talent. And this talent was making them mad, I think, that was making them absolutely rebellious. It was not their mistake by any chance, it was an energy within which was bubbling and had no outlet. And whatever outlet they had was not recognized, was not appreciated. And this made Me feel that if these children are given an outlet, a means of expressing themselves, I am sure they’ll take to it. They'll forget all these things, they'll never take to all self-destructive ideas because they were angry with them, I think. And it worked; it worked in the sense that first I wanted Yogi (Mahajan) to start a school for small children. And I was surprised how these children took to another kind of lifestyle, very disciplined style and... they were very different children. Like in the West I found a child, supposing you take him to the shop, he'll make you mad because he will say, “Buy me this and buy me that and...”, not understanding that one cannot afford it. And left to himself, I would say, that he would go on buying the whole of the market. He was so mad about it. But I thought that there was some sort of a thing that's lacking in him, in satisfaction. On the contrary, in India if you take one boy or a girl to the market, they'll say, “Bas, bas - only one, one will do.” Big, very big problem. I had My own granddaughters, I took them once to Delhi because they had broken their chappals [slippers], you know, and they had only one pair. The parents have else to do, no problem, but one chappal of that was broken, I said, “All right, you come along. Now in Delhi you can get good ones, we'll buy from them.” So they came and I bought for them. They said, “Nanny, at any cost we'll not take the second one. We'll just take one.” But I said, “Supposing this breaks. Then what will happen? Then you will come back again to Delhi to buy chappals? Have one spare at least.” They wouldn't listen and they ran away into the car. I went there, I said, “What are you doing? Why don't you buy chappals for yourselves?” “Why do you want to waste your money, Nanny? You can use it for something else.” Now, I was surprised the way they were so satisfied. Of course, they are born realized, no doubt, but also the whole atmosphere. I felt that this atmosphere if the children from the West can get, they will definitely prosper, they'll definitely express themselves and they'll become excellent people. But I didn't know their energy was so much, you see. After, My brother - your Babamama - I asked him, “Why not start an Academy of music?” And when they came to music, I was surprised. I was really surprised when we had not expected anything from them, within three months, within four months, they picked up such a difficult music style. It's impossible, it's impossible for Indians to do that. They can never do [it] in four, four months time. Oh wow, I've seen in My own family, there were musicians and My sisters, My brothers, for hours together... Every morning they used to get up at about five o'clock and start their music. Every day rehearse for three, four hours, every day. And I used to think, “Now, when will this end?” I mean, after all, if somebody has to sleep after 5:00, you can't, just can't sleep. But that's a custom in India to get up very early in the morning. But the way these people are learning it so fast, it is because that urge to express themselves was inside very, very strong, much stronger than Indians. Just imagine! I can tell you very clearly, I have never heard of anybody learning this difficult music in three months and four months. For years together they would not learn. Same about you people: How you have started appreciating it, I just don't know. I mean, it's a different atmosphere that has started, so full of hope and joy. You see now, there was one fellow who went to Belgium. He was an Italian, Italian Sahaja Yogi. He said, “Mother, I was surprised. There was a nice program with the Indians, and the Indian Consulate had arranged, so I went to the program. And they were talking to each other and some of them went out, some of them came in, these Indians. They never understood that it was Pilu rag while they couldn't ... (unclear). Even an ordinary Pilu rag they cannot recognize.” I was surprised that this Italian, that he... What he's saying is really, I've seen it. The Indians when they go for this kind of a very deep type of music, after 15 minutes they start slipping out. Also they told Me that in England they went to a music centre or we can say for the buying of the records or something. So, all the boys who were there, who were Indians, were buying pop music, that music. And they looked at these Sahaja Yogis, they said, “Are you stupid fools? Why are you buying this music, this Indian music? What is there in this Indian music?” They said, “It's better not to talk to you because you are gone cases.” Now, you see because, somehow or other, this is a Sahaj trick idea that your Energy's tuned up to a very subtle and deep understanding of music. Otherwise, it would never have worked like this. I mean, is the Kundalini, of course, no doubt. But the way she has nourished you to absorb, to understand, to enjoy. This is very subtle music. And it has happened more with the Western people than with the Indians, I'm sorry to say it. But Indians don't have that much of understanding, nor that much of enjoyment. Westerners may not, may not understand but they enjoy. Indians will, those who are, I mean, a little bit educated in music, will start finding out faults, finding out ragas, “This was not good, that...”. No, but not Westerners: Western people are so humble about it. Isn't it remarkable how is it they have picked up so quickly and have understood? Because they have become subtler. This is the only thing I can say: they have become subtler and their energies are flowing through the subtler level. It's surprising for Babamama, also for Me, for everyone that in three, four months how can you play Malkauns rag? First time I heard, I started wondering, “How can that be?” And that gives such a hope to save this music. It may be that in India it may be declining, but in the West it's rising. Is the other way round: The Sun rises from the East and sets on the West; here is the other way round now for music and I would request all the Indians to develop that subtle understanding. You see, say if you are a honeybee, only then you can suck in the honey. The flies cannot. So you have to develop that sensitivity, I would say to Indians, I'm sorry to say that you have to develop that sensitivity within you, which is possible through meditation and through Kundalini awakening and balancing and ultimately getting connected with this all-pervading power of Chaitanya. Because Sound is the second state. First was, of course, they said the Word. But it was silent, came into Sound and if you can understand the subtle of the Sound within you, if you can get one with it, it gives you that joy. But you will be surprised, I have never studied music, never, all My life. Because, you see, I don't know why but somehow I never studied because I could not have a guru, this is the problem is. I couldn't have a guru. So somehow or other, I never studied music. But what I have is the same as you have now is the subtle enjoyment sense of music. And that's why I said this is divine. Of course, I also enjoy some pop music, also enjoy western music very much and the Western great composers I enjoy, no doubt. But this music has one speciality - that nothing is written down. There is no composer. The musician is the composer, he is the player and he is the book. It's so individualistic if you see that, but today I was happy to see all of them. This is the western side of it that so many of them put together were singing, you see, like a choir but not so bad as that. And in the choir, you see, because I have attended many choirs also, it was too systematic, too disciplined; this is not. Here it is complete freedom within themselves. And the whole thing worked out so well, I mean, it's such a good combination of both the things. One side is the music, another side is the collectivity. So I have never said a word about Baba's University or Academy, but I told him that, “I'm very proud of you.” (Applause) He has very lovingly brought up this Academy and has that character of our old guru system which is very important. That keeps the whole place very holy, as you call 'pavana'. And that is working out. He is working very hard. I know Baba is working very hard, and all of you are working very hard to help him. But this Academy will definitely, I'm sure, one day will give that universal knowledge of that subtle thing I am telling you about. (Applause) I know it is late today and tonight, I should say, but I am used to this more, because, you see, in our - when we were young - My father was so fond of music and musicians that so many times we have slept at about five o'clock in the morning, so, [it] makes no difference to Me. Same I find in you, people, that you are, the way you are enjoying. So we have great hope of saving our young people who are going astray, people who are frustrated, people who are unhappy because they have no satisfaction; people who are committing suicide in the affluent countries. Also in our country people who are becoming politicians, I think, that's the worst thing that can happen to anyone. Also we have people who are doing all kinds of criminal things, doing all kinds of violence and everything. All that can be completely covered with the ocean of music. And if it is done by Sahaja Yogis, it would be such a great emancipation for the whole world which is absolutely due and it is going to work out. So I am thankful to Babamama and to all others who are supporting him in this and I hope you all will enjoy this music on a very subtle level. Because immediately with the mind which reacts, one starts discussing, arguing, condemning also. That's not the way to understand this music, but just to enjoy it. Enjoyment - it hasn't got two sides - is only enjoyment, single, and that should happen to you, all of you. I am so much, so much overwhelmed really by this beautiful renderings we have had. For example now we had from Aurangabad. I mean, I can't believe that in Aurangabad you could have such beautiful dancing. This Mr. Aurangzeb (Laughter, Shri Mataji laughs), after whom this name is given - Aurangabad. [Marathi] (Laughter) I don't know why it's called Aurangabad, whatever it is. He was such a horribly fanatic man and every day he used to kill so many Hindus. And when... Thank God he was a thin man. He was weaved in their thread, Janaeu thread. How many were killed, you know. Imagine what a cruel man he was, and under his name is this Aurangabad. If you have to change any name in this country, it should be Aurangzeb and Aurangabad. (Laughter, applause, Shri Mataji laughs) And he had no sense of music, he never used to listen to music, you know, but he was extremely honest; that's another point about honesty. And he would not take any money for his survival from the state. He used to stitch topis [hats] and sell them. Can you imagine? If he had not done that and had been little bit loving person, would have been much better. But from that Aurangabad comes this music and dancing. I was amazed. I thought, “How can it be?” How did they call it Aurangabad, I don't know, but he's the one who hated music. (Shri Mataji laughs) How could these people be born there? And what dancing they showed. Also you have seen the Kuchipudi from Baba, the Institute was another one. It was just, I hope, now I don't know. These are girls from, absolutely from countries where they have never known all this. And in such a short time to learn such a dance like Kuchipudi, is the most difficult dance, very fast. “My goodness!”, I thought that, “What has happened to them?” And you may say, “Mother, this is due to Sahaj”, whatever it is, but Sahaj also is to be borne by you people. Now if you have a very small little candle, how much it can burn? But these are like the ocean of energies and the way they are expressing themselves is remarkable. Of course, I love you very much and it is not out of that love and admiration I am saying this, but it's a fact, is a reality. I, I had no idea that one day it will go that well and this global movement is going to work out wonders. You must spread also the music along with the vibrations. I am sure it would be good. Really, for definite. (Marathi) (Laughter, Shri Mataji laughs) And you can't believe, I asked Babamama, “Who is, how is it?” He said, “Only four months time.” Everybody four months. (Laughter, Shri Mataji laughs) Very remarkable. Then we have one from Spain. I saw him playing Spanish, but Spanish rhythm I don't understand much because it goes hectic, you know. (Laughter) It is very fast, sometimes very slow, but it's very rhythmic, but is hectic. Ours is very much, I should say, disciplined. Whatever it is, he also is playing so well. So there are so many examples to show, that you may be from the Western country. It's better to be from the Western country now for music than from this. I can't understand really, it's a, it's a miracle, but why should this miracle work in the West and not in India I don't understand. Though I am sure the Indians are enjoying this music, no doubt, because they are all Sahaja Yogis. But you go to any program - any other program where there are very few Sahaja Yogis - you will see that the way they behave, without any respect. The respect that is paid in India to the musicians has to be of a very high level - or any talents - say even art... See also people who make beautiful things from their hands. All these people who are so talented, are to be respected very much because it's a special gift God has given them. Now in India, we have got a very big problem also. All great artists got into the... I should say, into the influence of the West, and so many of them take scotch whisky. What do you say to that? So many; and their music is finished. You can't even play cricket with scotch whisky, leave alone music. And this Western influence of taking drinks and things like that has ruined our musicians and I don't know what's going to happen. I was quite worried that how is it going to be retained in this country, but now I have great hopes because if they see the Western people doing so well... You see, for Indians, this goes into their heads that, “How can they do it?” Oh, that goes very much... I mean if they see Western people doing such good music, it's very influential. So, instead of having any Indian artist on the stage, we should really bring foreign. (Laughter) It will have a great effect, I tell you, on Indians. (Marathi) (Laughter) It was very shameful the way sometimes Indians behave in a classical music programs, very shameful, for anybody. They have no sense, nothing and they go on misbehaving. They come there for social, social affair, I think, that's all. On this point, we Indians as Sahaja Yogis are to be responsible and to see for yourself how much they have achieved, how much they have understood. Somebody who saw them said, “Mother, now even in Indian music if they go ahead of us, what will happen to us?” (Shri Mataji laughs, laughter) But still, we have very great musicians, as you have Arun Apte before you. (Applause) I must tell you, we had a program in Pune, that's called Shere, and I was very tired. And so I told Yogi (Mahajan), “What is in the program, next one?” He said, “Some musician has come. He wanted to sing, so he has come.” I said, “Which musician?” “I don't know his name...” But you see, Yogi (Mahajan), I think, was that time not so much music-minded. (Laughter) Typical Indian stile. “So Mother, You go and sleep.” So I laid down and I heard his voice and I heard him. I said, “Who is this singing?” I came back, I changed My sari, I asked Yogi, “Who is he?” They told Me the name. I said, “He's a great singer! What do you understand? How much are you going to pay him?” He told Me such a meager thing, I said, “Are you mad, Yogi?” (Laughter) Then I went out and I heard his great music. I've heard his guru also before who was also very great that time, and also Ajid Kadkade and his guru Bandhu, both of them are. But I was surprised that none of the Indians could understand him, what he was singing. And this Maharashtra is known for music, for classical music. But surprisingly, it's not that level now that we had seen. I am happy to see this resurrection of Indian music through you people. That was one of My greatest desire to get the art, handicrafts and music - all kinds of things which are created through this talent - should prosper. And I am very happy to see that despite it's so late - I don't know what is the time, oh my God (Laughter) - you all are still alert and enjoying. I can't say about other artists who have very much impressed you and impressed Me. So this is a very good chance - Ganapatipule - where we can have a very nice music, beautiful music, so enjoyable. Thank you very much. (Applause)

Evening Program, Eve of Christmas Puja. Ganapatipule (Maharashtra, India), 24 December 1998. It is very difficult to describe this inner joy. You can only enjoy it, you can only feel it. It's something so innate to see that so many of you have learnt this difficult music and all of you have been enjoying it. I went to various places in the West and I felt that, “Why even small little children, boys and girls, take to something which is self-destructive? Why? Why do they take to drugs? Why do they take to all these things which are self-destructive.” I mean, you could blame the parents to some extent but on the whole, there was something within them which was troubling them, which was trying to say that, “That's not true. That's not the thing, that's not the thing that you want.” And that's what made them go into all kinds of various types of rebellion, I should say, against all the accepted truths or accepted goodness or value system. And I just thought that, of course, in India the parents are rather strict, I must say 'right', but there's one more thing in India: there's a big outlet for them and I found that outlet was the talent that they had. They had lots of talents, all of them, I felt when I talked to them and this and that. I felt that they have lots of talent but there is no way to express it. Certain people have been doing some sort of an haphazard expression, I should say. And they could not understand themselves why they were doing it. And this was the main thing that was lacking, I think, in the West that the children had no way of expressing themselves, of expressing their talent. And this talent was making them mad, I think, that was making them absolutely rebellious. It was not their mistake by any chance, it was an energy within which was bubbling and had no outlet. And whatever outlet they had was not recognized, was not appreciated. And this made Me feel that if these children are given an outlet, a means of expressing themselves, I am sure they’ll take to it. They'll forget all these things, they'll never take to all self-destructive ideas because they were angry with them, I think. And it worked; it worked in the sense that first I wanted Yogi (Mahajan) to start a school for small children. And I was surprised how these children took to another kind of lifestyle, very disciplined style and... they were very different children. Like in the West I found a child, supposing you take him to the shop, he'll make you mad because he will say, “Buy me this and buy me that and...”, not understanding that one cannot afford it. And left to himself, I would say, that he would go on buying the whole of the market. He was so mad about it. But I thought that there was some sort of a thing that's lacking in him, in satisfaction. On the contrary, in India if you take one boy or a girl to the market, they'll say, “Bas, bas - only one, one will do.” Big, very big problem. I had My own granddaughters, I took them once to Delhi because they had broken their chappals [slippers], you know, and they had only one pair. The parents have else to do, no problem, but one chappal of that was broken, I said, “All right, you come along. Now in Delhi you can get good ones, we'll buy from them.” So they came and I bought for them. They said, “Nanny, at any cost we'll not take the second one. We'll just take one.” But I said, “Supposing this breaks. Then what will happen? Then you will come back again to Delhi to buy chappals? Have one spare at least.” They wouldn't listen and they ran away into the car. I went there, I said, “What are you doing? Why don't you buy chappals for yourselves?” “Why do you want to waste your money, Nanny? You can use it for something else.” Now, I was surprised the way they were so satisfied. Of course, they are born realized, no doubt, but also the whole atmosphere. I felt that this atmosphere if the children from the West can get, they will definitely prosper, they'll definitely express themselves and they'll become excellent people. But I didn't know their energy was so much, you see. After, My brother - your Babamama - I asked him, “Why not start an Academy of music?” And when they came to music, I was surprised. I was really surprised when we had not expected anything from them, within three months, within four months, they picked up such a difficult music style. It's impossible, it's impossible for Indians to do that. They can never do [it] in four, four months time. Oh wow, I've seen in My own family, there were musicians and My sisters, My brothers, for hours together... Every morning they used to get up at about five o'clock and start their music. Every day rehearse for three, four hours, every day. And I used to think, “Now, when will this end?” I mean, after all, if somebody has to sleep after 5:00, you can't, just can't sleep. But that's a custom in India to get up very early in the morning. But the way these people are learning it so fast, it is because that urge to express themselves was inside very, very strong, much stronger than Indians. Just imagine! I can tell you very clearly, I have never heard of anybody learning this difficult music in three months and four months. For years together they would not learn. Same about you people: How you have started appreciating it, I just don't know. I mean, it's a different atmosphere that has started, so full of hope and joy. You see now, there was one fellow who went to Belgium. He was an Italian, Italian Sahaja Yogi. He said, “Mother, I was surprised. There was a nice program with the Indians, and the Indian Consulate had arranged, so I went to the program. And they were talking to each other and some of them went out, some of them came in, these Indians. They never understood that it was Pilu rag while they couldn't ... (unclear). Even an ordinary Pilu rag they cannot recognize.” I was surprised that this Italian, that he... What he's saying is really, I've seen it. The Indians when they go for this kind of a very deep type of music, after 15 minutes they start slipping out. Also they told Me that in England they went to a music centre or we can say for the buying of the records or something. So, all the boys who were there, who were Indians, were buying pop music, that music. And they looked at these Sahaja Yogis, they said, “Are you stupid fools? Why are you buying this music, this Indian music? What is there in this Indian music?” They said, “It's better not to talk to you because you are gone cases.” Now, you see because, somehow or other, this is a Sahaj trick idea that your Energy's tuned up to a very subtle and deep understanding of music. Otherwise, it would never have worked like this. I mean, is the Kundalini, of course, no doubt. But the way she has nourished you to absorb, to understand, to enjoy. This is very subtle music. And it has happened more with the Western people than with the Indians, I'm sorry to say it. But Indians don't have that much of understanding, nor that much of enjoyment. Westerners may not, may not understand but they enjoy. Indians will, those who are, I mean, a little bit educated in music, will start finding out faults, finding out ragas, “This was not good, that...”. No, but not Westerners: Western people are so humble about it. Isn't it remarkable how is it they have picked up so quickly and have understood? Because they have become subtler. This is the only thing I can say: they have become subtler and their energies are flowing through the subtler level. It's surprising for Babamama, also for Me, for everyone that in three, four months how can you play Malkauns rag? First time I heard, I started wondering, “How can that be?” And that gives such a hope to save this music. It may be that in India it may be declining, but in the West it's rising. Is the other way round: The Sun rises from the East and sets on the West; here is the other way round now for music and I would request all the Indians to develop that subtle understanding. You see, say if you are a honeybee, only then you can suck in the honey. The flies cannot. So you have to develop that sensitivity, I would say to Indians, I'm sorry to say that you have to develop that sensitivity within you, which is possible through meditation and through Kundalini awakening and balancing and ultimately getting connected with this all-pervading power of Chaitanya. Because Sound is the second state. First was, of course, they said the Word. But it was silent, came into Sound and if you can understand the subtle of the Sound within you, if you can get one with it, it gives you that joy. But you will be surprised, I have never studied music, never, all My life. Because, you see, I don't know why but somehow I never studied because I could not have a guru, this is the problem is. I couldn't have a guru. So somehow or other, I never studied music. But what I have is the same as you have now is the subtle enjoyment sense of music. And that's why I said this is divine. Of course, I also enjoy some pop music, also enjoy western music very much and the Western great composers I enjoy, no doubt. But this music has one speciality - that nothing is written down. There is no composer. The musician is the composer, he is the player and he is the book. It's so individualistic if you see that, but today I was happy to see all of them. This is the western side of it that so many of them put together were singing, you see, like a choir but not so bad as that. And in the choir, you see, because I have attended many choirs also, it was too systematic, too disciplined; this is not. Here it is complete freedom within themselves. And the whole thing worked out so well, I mean, it's such a good combination of both the things. One side is the music, another side is the collectivity. So I have never said a word about Baba's University or Academy, but I told him that, “I'm very proud of you.” (Applause) He has very lovingly brought up this Academy and has that character of our old guru system which is very important. That keeps the whole place very holy, as you call 'pavana'. And that is working out. He is working very hard. I know Baba is working very hard, and all of you are working very hard to help him. But this Academy will definitely, I'm sure, one day will give that universal knowledge of that subtle thing I am telling you about. (Applause) I know it is late today and tonight, I should say, but I am used to this more, because, you see, in our - when we were young - My father was so fond of music and musicians that so many times we have slept at about five o'clock in the morning, so, [it] makes no difference to Me. Same I find in you, people, that you are, the way you are enjoying. So we have great hope of saving our young people who are going astray, people who are frustrated, people who are unhappy because they have no satisfaction; people who are committing suicide in the affluent countries. Also in our country people who are becoming politicians, I think, that's the worst thing that can happen to anyone. Also we have people who are doing all kinds of criminal things, doing all kinds of violence and everything. All that can be completely covered with the ocean of music. And if it is done by Sahaja Yogis, it would be such a great emancipation for the whole world which is absolutely due and it is going to work out. So I am thankful to Babamama and to all others who are supporting him in this and I hope you all will enjoy this music on a very subtle level. Because immediately with the mind which reacts, one starts discussing, arguing, condemning also. That's not the way to understand this music, but just to enjoy it. Enjoyment - it hasn't got two sides - is only enjoyment, single, and that should happen to you, all of you. I am so much, so much overwhelmed really by this beautiful renderings we have had. For example now we had from Aurangabad. I mean, I can't believe that in Aurangabad you could have such beautiful dancing. This Mr. Aurangzeb (Laughter, Shri Mataji laughs), after whom this name is given - Aurangabad. [Marathi] (Laughter) I don't know why it's called Aurangabad, whatever it is. He was such a horribly fanatic man and every day he used to kill so many Hindus. And when... Thank God he was a thin man. He was weaved in their thread, Janaeu thread. How many were killed, you know. Imagine what a cruel man he was, and under his name is this Aurangabad. If you have to change any name in this country, it should be Aurangzeb and Aurangabad. (Laughter, applause, Shri Mataji laughs) And he had no sense of music, he never used to listen to music, you know, but he was extremely honest; that's another point about honesty. And he would not take any money for his survival from the state. He used to stitch topis [hats] and sell them. Can you imagine? If he had not done that and had been little bit loving person, would have been much better. But from that Aurangabad comes this music and dancing. I was amazed. I thought, “How can it be?” How did they call it Aurangabad, I don't know, but he's the one who hated music. (Shri Mataji laughs) How could these people be born there? And what dancing they showed. Also you have seen the Kuchipudi from Baba, the Institute was another one. It was just, I hope, now I don't know. These are girls from, absolutely from countries where they have never known all this. And in such a short time to learn such a dance like Kuchipudi, is the most difficult dance, very fast. “My goodness!”, I thought that, “What has happened to them?” And you may say, “Mother, this is due to Sahaj”, whatever it is, but Sahaj also is to be borne by you people. Now if you have a very small little candle, how much it can burn? But these are like the ocean of energies and the way they are expressing themselves is remarkable. Of course, I love you very much and it is not out of that love and admiration I am saying this, but it's a fact, is a reality. I, I had no idea that one day it will go that well and this global movement is going to work out wonders. You must spread also the music along with the vibrations. I am sure it would be good. Really, for definite. (Marathi) (Laughter, Shri Mataji laughs) And you can't believe, I asked Babamama, “Who is, how is it?” He said, “Only four months time.” Everybody four months. (Laughter, Shri Mataji laughs) Very remarkable. Then we have one from Spain. I saw him playing Spanish, but Spanish rhythm I don't understand much because it goes hectic, you know. (Laughter) It is very fast, sometimes very slow, but it's very rhythmic, but is hectic. Ours is very much, I should say, disciplined. Whatever it is, he also is playing so well. So there are so many examples to show, that you may be from the Western country. It's better to be from the Western country now for music than from this. I can't understand really, it's a, it's a miracle, but why should this miracle work in the West and not in India I don't understand. Though I am sure the Indians are enjoying this music, no doubt, because they are all Sahaja Yogis. But you go to any program - any other program where there are very few Sahaja Yogis - you will see that the way they behave, without any respect. The respect that is paid in India to the musicians has to be of a very high level - or any talents - say even art... See also people who make beautiful things from their hands. All these people who are so talented, are to be respected very much because it's a special gift God has given them. Now in India, we have got a very big problem also. All great artists got into the... I should say, into the influence of the West, and so many of them take scotch whisky. What do you say to that? So many; and their music is finished. You can't even play cricket with scotch whisky, leave alone music. And this Western influence of taking drinks and things like that has ruined our musicians and I don't know what's going to happen. I was quite worried that how is it going to be retained in this country, but now I have great hopes because if they see the Western people doing so well... You see, for Indians, this goes into their heads that, “How can they do it?” Oh, that goes very much... I mean if they see Western people doing such good music, it's very influential. So, instead of having any Indian artist on the stage, we should really bring foreign. (Laughter) It will have a great effect, I tell you, on Indians. (Marathi) (Laughter) It was very shameful the way sometimes Indians behave in a classical music programs, very shameful, for anybody. They have no sense, nothing and they go on misbehaving. They come there for social, social affair, I think, that's all. On this point, we Indians as Sahaja Yogis are to be responsible and to see for yourself how much they have achieved, how much they have understood. Somebody who saw them said, “Mother, now even in Indian music if they go ahead of us, what will happen to us?” (Shri Mataji laughs, laughter) But still, we have very great musicians, as you have Arun Apte before you. (Applause) I must tell you, we had a program in Pune, that's called Shere, and I was very tired. And so I told Yogi (Mahajan), “What is in the program, next one?” He said, “Some musician has come. He wanted to sing, so he has come.” I said, “Which musician?” “I don't know his name...” But you see, Yogi (Mahajan), I think, was that time not so much music-minded. (Laughter) Typical Indian stile. “So Mother, You go and sleep.” So I laid down and I heard his voice and I heard him. I said, “Who is this singing?” I came back, I changed My sari, I asked Yogi, “Who is he?” They told Me the name. I said, “He's a great singer! What do you understand? How much are you going to pay him?” He told Me such a meager thing, I said, “Are you mad, Yogi?” (Laughter) Then I went out and I heard his great music. I've heard his guru also before who was also very great that time, and also Ajid Kadkade and his guru Bandhu, both of them are. But I was surprised that none of the Indians could understand him, what he was singing. And this Maharashtra is known for music, for classical music. But surprisingly, it's not that level now that we had seen. I am happy to see this resurrection of Indian music through you people. That was one of My greatest desire to get the art, handicrafts and music - all kinds of things which are created through this talent - should prosper. And I am very happy to see that despite it's so late - I don't know what is the time, oh my God (Laughter) - you all are still alert and enjoying. I can't say about other artists who have very much impressed you and impressed Me. So this is a very good chance - Ganapatipule - where we can have a very nice music, beautiful music, so enjoyable. Thank you very much. (Applause)

12/25/1998

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Christmas Puja: Become Thoughtlessly Aware

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Christmas Puja. Ganapatipule (Maharashtra, India), 25 December 1998. English Transcript First, I'll speak in English and then in Hindi. Today, long time back, Christ was born. You all know the story of His birth, and of all the sufferings He had to go through. He’s the One who has given us the model of Sahaja Yoga. For He didn’t live for Himself, in no way, but He lived for others, working out the Agnya Chakra. You may be Divine, you may be very powerful, but this world is so cruel that they don’t understand spirituality, they don’t understand the spiritual greatness. Not only that, but they are many factors which attack spirituality, they have always done it. Every saint has suffered a lot, but I think Christ has suffered the most. As you know, He was endowed with all the powers of Shri Ganesh, as He is the reincarnation of Shri Ganesha. The first of them was His innocence: He was the eternal child, we should say that He could not understand the cruelty and the hypocrisy of this stupid world. Still if you can understand, what can you do about it? But with great courage, He took birth in a country where people had no idea of spirituality. I read a book about Him, saying that He came to Kashmir, where He met one of My forefathers Shalivana. It’s very interesting, because it is all in Sanskrit, and the writer perhaps did not know Sanskrit, so he has given everything in Sanskrit language, which is not very congenial, I am sure, to the Western people. Thank God, he did not know Sanskrit, otherwise it would have been very dangerous. It’s written in that, that he asked Christ: “Why have You come to India?” So He said: “This is My country, that’s why I’ve come here, where people respect spirituality. But I live among people who do not understand spirituality at all.” His conversation with Him was very, very interesting, because Shalivana said that: “There is more reason that You should go back to Your country and teach them Nirmala Tattwa.” That’s the principle of purification. He went back, after three and a half years, He was crucified. I personally think the big difference between the Western execution and Indian is that in the West, killing is a very great profession. With the slightest pretext they kill people. Anybody who is a saint was killed or they called him a madcap. That’s the best way to avoid spirituality. While in India, if a saint says anything, then he is not challenged, never! But they believe in it, because he is a saint, he is a much higher personality than we are. Though they were very nasty people around and they tortured them, but as a whole, the public, the people, respected them. If they are false gurus, normally they don’t stay in this country, because they know they'll be found out. Also they are so money-oriented [Shri Mataji laughts delicatly] that they go to America or to some foreign countries and settle down there to make money. This is one of the signs, one should say. This may be one of the reasons why Christ was born in a very, very ordinary family. He had no proper bed to sleep as a child also. It’s all described: where He slept, how His mother and father lived in a place where there were cows and calves. It was to show that spirituality does not need any luxury, doesn’t need any pompous show. It is a power within. It is a glow and a light within which shows, automatically. You do not have to do anything to show it out. Such a person does not have any sense of money and other things as positions. He was bothered about people who were suffering physically, even the lepers, and He tried to cure them, He tried to help so many people who were sick physically. Because at that time, there were no hospitals, no doctors, so His attention was drawn to people who were suffering physically. Also mentally, He tried to prepare them: there are so many beautiful sermons on the mountain. In a way, that time, people were not so materialistic, so they listened to Him. We can’t say how many understood Him. It’s very important that if you are not a Realised soul, then it is difficult to understand spirituality. The one is talking about spirituality and the one who is listening to his, both of them must have minimum of Realisation. So from His beautiful life that I see, we have to learn that, unless and until we are Realised souls, we will be torturing the Spirit of Christ. We have seen it’s happening: “All those who talk of Christ”, He has said it very clearly, “they will be calling Me “Christ, Christ!” I won’t recognise you.” Very clearly, He has said it, I don’t know why they didn’t remove it from the Bible. It means those who will talk and preach and dress up to show off that they are spiritual in the name of Christ, He will not recognise them. It’s as simple as that! And this time now, when it’s the Last Judgement, He is going to judge the whole world on the basis of spirituality, which means vibrations. His Judgement has already started. I’ve seen it, you can see, in so many countries, things are just disappearing, all their ego, all their aggressiveness, all their cruelty are being challenged. And those who did wrong in the war also are taken to task. So in the history also, those who have done wrong to any community, to any people, they all will be taken to task. They had no business to be aggressive on people and to torture them. This is what is Shri Ganesha’s principle acting through Sahaja Yoga. Christ didn’t say that, but He did say: “There will be Last Judgement.” On one side, He was very kind and compassionate, on the other side, He was really Shri Ganesha, because He took a hunter to hit the people who were selling things in the temple. You cannot have business in the name of religion. What a big thing it is to understand. But the Christians didn’t follow that, they did not! I don’t know where have they gone. As we have Mahatma Gandhi who talked of spirituality and nothing else. “Adhyatma” [related to the Self, the Spirit] all the time. But his successors who came, put him somewhere with his spirituality and started a new world, new ideas, and a new style of life. Those who are supposed to be his followers are now wanting to have many pubs, and also all kinds of things, can you imagine? This Congress was started by Mahatma Gandhi, and the Congress followers are doing all this. Where are they going to lead? The beauty of this country is, the treasure of this country is spirituality. Instead of taking to spirituality, where are they going? They may not be Christians, but they respect Christ, they respect Bible. I must tell you it’s a fact people don’t know. They are not Christians, means in the sense, they are not baptised, but they respect, because they understand that there was so much of spirituality about Christ. He was the personification of spirituality. That’s the beauty of Indians, that somebody is a Hindu or is a Muslim makes no difference. There were many Muslims who were Saints and Sufis in India, they are all respected by everyone, whether they are Muslims or Hindus. So for Christ, nobody has any objection at all. On the contrary, you saw yesterday how they were all happy about it, because they are Realised souls. But even if they are not, in this country, Christ is very much respected. They can’t understand: How can they scrutinise the life of Christ? How can they judge Him and how can they make vulgar films about it? This, they can’t bear it, because the respect that they have for spirituality exists very much more than it exists outside. Because in the name of Christ, people have done such a lot of wrong. Such a lot of killing has been done, all kinds of wrong things have been accepted. With all this, one does not understand how they have judged Christ. For example, what I know, in England I saw, I was shocked that if somebody dies, they drink; if somebody’s born, they drink. Drinking is the only way they have relationships. [Shri Mataji laughs delicately] “How can you drink?” I asked them. He said: “Why? Christ created wine.” “When?” “In a wedding.” I said: “In a wedding? That was not wine, that was just the juice of the grapes that they grew there.” We call it “drakshas” [made out of grapes] in our language. How can that be wine? It has to be first fermented, it has to be rotten, how can that be?" So this is the biggest Dharma: to drink! But in India, we know, though nobody has said anything against drinking, but we know drinking is a sinful thing. You see it every day: everybody knows that if you drink, you become absolutely out of your mind. That's not a thing to be said on a religious platform, but everybody knows that what this drinking is. Not that people abroad don't know, they also know. But somehow it has become a fashion. Even in our country, it has been now introduced. I don't know how, after Independence, people have started drinking. Every party, they drink. Also in the name of Christ, on Christmas Day. It's such an insult to His beautiful holy life. So when they came on this earth, perhaps all their powers of holiness were destroyed. A very good thing about India, Indians say that at least they respect, they respect the holy places. That is something good about her. And they know what this holiness is. Now of course they are becoming very modern and Americanised, but still they know what is wrong, what should not be done. With Sahaja Yoga now, I am very happy to say that the foreign Sahaja Yogis also have become very beautiful. I'm surprised, because in their cultures, there is no spirituality. But I don't know how they left all that nonsense and have come out like lotuses beautifully, with such beautiful fragrance of spirituality. This is something, a miracle. Everybody says: "Mother, we can't believe it, how could it have happened? How could You manage this?" I would say it's the blessing of Christ. They saw how people are working out in the name of Christ in a very degraded manner, and they developed a kind of an awareness, that definitively something is wrong with it: this is not Christ, this is not His holy life they are depicting, it's something else. And that is how, I think, in the West there's a greater urge, a greater ascending force. Yesterday somebody came and told Me: "Mother, there's no collective meditation." I was very happy to hear that. What is most important is meditation in Sahaja Yoga, no doubt about it. But the foreigners, they do meditation much more than Indians do, very surprising. And foreign men and women are very highly equipped, I must say, as far as spirituality is concerned. Specially Russians, I was surprised that in America, they told Me: "Mother, these Americans are NOT Sahaja Yogis!" I said: "Why?" "They don't have that respect for You, they don't meditate. Those who do not meditate are not Sahaja Yogis." I said: "I agree." And they made all the Americans to meditate! I don't know why in this Eastern Block, people, Bulgaria and so on, Russians, Romanians, how they have taken to Sahaja Yoga so much. Of course, they had the curse of communism on them. Maybe that they felt that they had missed something in life and they went deep down into themselves. And that is how they have achieved it. But I have to tell Indians that they have to meditate. Indians have one or two very bad qualities. And that is, one of them is "groupism". For example, if they are Bhramins, they will sit together; if they are this caste, they will sit together; if they are Bhanyas, they will sit together. If that is not so, then by another name, they will group together. This is the worse curse of My country, because once you start grouping together, you can never see the good of others and you can never see the bad of yourself. This grouping together can bring lots of problem in this country. At the time of Christ, they had very different type of view: either they were interested in spirituality, or they were not. Now we have people here who are interested in spirituality, but still their one leg is in the water, where the age-old problems still exist. And this is the ruin of our country. We cannot combine together, we cannot be friends with each other. Of course not in Sahaja Yoga, I must say it has been solved very well. But if you see, even at the time of Christ, He had problems with His disciples. Specially something happened with Peter and he is the one who said: "A Satan will meet you." Because I think people fall into the group of satanic forces. And He said that He removed the satanic devils from many people and put them in the pigs. It's true, there is a satanic force which is working very strongly. The more we develop security of spirituality, the more they will develop. The satanic force is in a different form in the West and in a different form in the East. But I would like to tell for them to be careful how to find out the satanic forces in the West. You may not be affected by that, because you are Realised souls, but you'll have to fight it, you'll have to fight it. For example, racialism: racialism is still very powerful there, very very powerful. And you have to fight racialism through marrying people who belong to other races. But still I find it difficult to marry a Black person to a White person. It's an impossible situation. If I try that, I don't know what happens. Once we had such a marriage, I must tell you, and a White lady, French lady, was married to a Black man. Instead of the French lady dominating, this Black man dominated. So I was quite surprised, you know, how could that be? So the reason was, I think he was taking the revenge, maybe the respite. So first of all, tremendous love and affection has to grow between the people. This colour is so skin-deep, it has nothing to do with the love inside, nothing! It's so skin-deep. Thanks God, in our country, you can have a wife who will be very dark, husband will be very fair or vice-versa. But they never look at that from that angle. I don't think that exists in this country. But we have another kind: you see, just is a typical human problem is that he discriminates; through ego, which, I must say, Christ has tried to fight your ego. He was born in a very humble family. And He was not a white-skinned man, no! In your language, He was brown, but in Indian language, He was black. But when it comes to spirituality, you just see the enlightened one, you don't see what colour they have the skin. It's very, very superficial, but this is one of the enemies of the Western life which, I think, must be conquered. Materialism is another one, but the worst of all which is against Christ is immorality. Immorality is so much accepted in the West. All kinds of immoral behaviour is accepted. Like they say that, all these immoral people say: "Vote for somebody", he becomes the President of America. It's alright, does not matter. All kinds of immorality is allowed. But that is absolutely against Christ, absolutely! People don't understand that immorality will lead them to a kingdom which I don't know what to call, because it's even worse than animal kingdom. And they are so immoral, they listen to people like Freud, as if they have no brains, they have no Spirit, to take note of such a man. Only after Sahaja Yoga, the model of Christ life you can have. Whatever is past is over and finished. Today now you are Realised souls and morality is your strength. Forget about the past and I'm sure you can get many more people under the banner of Sahaja Yoga if you lead a very, very moral life. At the same time, another very bad enemy we have is our anger. So, they are very proud, they'll say: "I'll now get angry." "You know, I'm very angry." They are not ashamed about it. And they go on saying that: "I'm very angry", as if it's not wrong to say: "I'm very angry." Now they say: "I hate", I mean, imagine any Indian language they'd use this word, it would mean "I am committing sin". So all this aggressiveness comes from anger. If somebody has to be angry, he should be angry with himself. Best is to get rid of anger: you can pull your hair, you can bite yourself, you can use your pillow to hit yourself! [laughs] That may be the best way to take out your anger. But see for what you are angry: sometimes it's absolutely useless, sometimes it has no meaning, sometimes it's absolutely maddening stupid! But as long as you stop saying: "I am very angry", that's it, that's the time you should understand you are falling down completely. So Christ didn't talk of all the subtle things I have been talking to you, because that was left to Me: without Realisation, how can you talk about subtler things? You cannot! Last time, I told you about the vibrations, what it is and what it stands for and how you get the subtle energy that we call as "Tanmatra", of our light, Tej, of water, Jal, and Vayu, Agni. But I didn't tell you of one, very special one which is in English language you call it Ether. But Ether is another energy which is managed by another Tanmatra, we call it Akash. Especially today, because it's Christ who has sacrificed His life to open our Agnya Chakra that we have reached that state of Akash. Without Him, it would not have been possible. We can have general communication, like we can talk to people, we can say things, we can also use our fingers to express ourselves, our hands to communicate. But to communicate vibrations, you have to have vibrations. Otherwise you cannot feel another person. But if you are at the Agnya level, means you are mental, absolutely mental, then your vibrations also are dwindling, in the sense you don't know really what they are saying. You can't judge your vibrations because these vibrations are mental. They say: "Mother, we asked the vibrations." I say: "Really? But you don't have any vibrations, how can you ask the vibrations?" Very common thing: "We asked the vibrations, we found from the vibrations". It's not possible, because you are just mental. Now what Christ has done is to put you AWAY from the mental level, that is the most difficult. While I am surprised, those who follow Christianity have the worst mental position, they are mentally absolutely there, I don't know how to call, like the fog of Delhi… [laughs] that you can't cross! That fog was broken by Christ. How much we should be obliged to Him, that He removed the greatest hurdle in the human ascent and that one was to break this Agnya, the mental being within us. We read like mad, we listen to people like mad, we like those who give us food for our mental brain. They are so mental, so argumentative, think no end of their intelligence that you just have to say: “All right, Namaskar!” You can’t fight their mental attitude. That’s why Christ is to be worshipped by people who are so very mental. And this mental nonsense has given such a sense of superiority to people –“Oh, whatever we do… What’s wrong? What’s wrong?” They cannot correct themselves, because, unless and until you cross this limit of mental being, you cannot see yourself. You cannot introspect, you cannot see yourself. You’ll see others: “These Sahaja Yogis are like this… Sahaja Yoga is like that…” –all kinds of things. But you can’t see yourself, because the whole thing is mental. This mental attitude should be completely curbed through the help of our Lord Jesus Christ. But He is only mental –in your brains, Christ is also mental, now what to do? The one who broke the mental attitude is also mental –you have made Him into mental like a statue of stone. So firstly we have to tell ourselves: “Now, don’t think, don’t think, don’t think, don’t think!” Four times. And then you can rise above it. And this is very important. In meditation, you have to go beyond the mind and, thanks to Christ, that He is sitting at the Agnya, to finish off this nonsense of mental being. I think people should stop reading also, perhaps, maybe. Even My lecture becomes mental, what to do? I mean, everything that goes into their head becomes mental, somehow, and then they ask Me questions: “Mother, did You say this way?” I said: “I said it to make you thoughtless, just to stun you. I didn’t say this to sit down and analyse and do… no, no. I said this, that you should become absolutely shocked and stunned.” So, the best thing for all of you is to become thoughtless. That’s the blessing of Christ, that’s what He worked it out for and I am sure if you work it out, that don’t pay attention to others... Don’t react, just don’t react. Everything they will see, they will react. What is the need? What is the use? What are you going to do with that reaction? This reaction creates nothing but ripples of thoughts in your minds –I have told you hundreds of times and now you have to become absolutely thoughtless after this Puja. If that happens, I think we have achieved a lot. That’s the biggest blessing that Christ has given you, which you should really enjoy. Then only this Akash Tattwa in you will work. And how it works? Through your attention. It works with Me, as you know. With My attention, I work out many things. How? Just My attention has become thoughtless. Just thoughtless. It goes, wherever it goes, it works. But if you put your attention for thought all the time, for thinking, then it doesn’t do the work that it is supposed to do. Attention works marvellously, if you are thoughtless, otherwise it doesn’t. So it has to rise from your own self, then from others, to the higher level of humanity, where you are in communication with the sky, with we can call it as the “Tanmatra” or the essential or the essence of ether. With ether, you can have television, you can have telephone, it’s a miracle otherwise. But with this Tanmatra, sitting down here, you can do the job, it works. Just attention works, I know that, you also know very well. You don’t have to ask Me to put the attention, you just put attention and it will work. It is a very important thing that you have got. I think that is the first thing, once you have - no problem. But we start manifesting from the Earth element. Then from the Agni element, then from the Jal element and then we come to Tejas, that the face starts shining. But lastly we get this thoughtless awareness by which our attention is absolutely free to do some special work. But if you are all the time thinking, then, poor, this attention is so busy, you know, so very busy. You don’t have to ask Me then: “Mother, please pay attention”, you can pay attention and you can work it out. In this attention, you don’t feel what you got, what you're standing, what you are wearing, what others are doing – no, nothing! You are one with yourself. And it’s a life full of humour, so much humour, so much of joy, so much of happiness, that you don’t care for anything that normally people care for. So, as it is now, Sahaja Yoga has worked in so many countries. I am so very proud of you, very proud of you. And now it is also going to African countries, it’s a very great satisfaction for Me. And you all can do it. You all can work it out. Only thing, become thoughtlessly aware, as the blessing of Christ. If it works, you will be absolutely enjoying yourself. May God bless you! Translation from Hindi The fact is that this English language has been imposed on us for the past three hundred years. I have never studied the English language. Never! Even in school there was a small book, and in the Medical College, no one taught English as a language. My father used to say, “It is such an easy language and there are so few words in it, that there is no need to study it.” And he admitted us into a Marathi medium school. And he used to advise us, "Learn Marathi and Sanskrit language". So, I did not study Sanskrit language and as for Hindi, I never ever studied Hindi language. No question about that! Didn't learn in school or in college Didn't learn Hindi language anywhere! But there is one good quality in Me, which I must tell you about, that whenever I speak in Hindi, I can speak only in Hindi; and when I speak Marathi I can speak only in Marathi language, and when I speak in English, I can speak only English. It is very difficult for Me to translate from one to the other. That is why I cannot mix them up. Each of these three languages is different from the others. Now no one will believe that I have not studied Hindi language. But because of My interest in reading, interest in reading good Hindi books, I learnt the Hindi language. But in the beginning My Hindi speaking had a lot of words and influence from Sanskrit. Because Maharastrians speak like that only. They don't know day-to-day Hindi language. When they speak Hindi more than half of the words will be Sanskrit and the rest will be Marathi. You understand? This is the condition. What I have understood from all this is, that even language comes as a gift of God. Like you have a gift in music and arts, in the same way, aptitude for languages is also a blessing. And by that, one can master many languages. But the Hindi speaking people cannot learn any other language. The reason for this is - for example the English people also, they cannot learn any other language. And even if they learn it, they will not be fluent. The reason is that everyone can speak English, so there is no interest for them in learning any other language. Now the Hindi speaking people have this problem that they just cannot speak any other language. I will never insist that you must learn Marathi, because Marathi language is very complicated. It's very difficult. Only Maharashtrians can understand it. And it has so much merriment and so many jokes. There is nothing indecent in that language. There is not even a bit of filth or indecency in it. It is such a profound and expressive language that for Sahaja Yoga there is no other language that is more appropriate than Marathi. Because only in Marathi a description of Kundalini was written. Whatever has been written by saints and sages, has been written in Marathi language. And if you learn Marathi, you can learn any other language. There is no doubt in this. But Maharashtrians will not learn any other language. They are very obstinate. I asked someone, “Just read this Hindi book”. He read a little bit, and put it down. I asked him: “Why?” and he said, “It is full of rubbish! Only nonsense is written, I don’t want to read it!” Because Marathi is such a clean language with such pure thoughts, that after reading... After reading Gita, you cannot read wayside books of dirt and filth. You will not understand them! So if some of you start learning Marathi, it will be a good thing. But it is a very difficult language to master. There are a lot of synonyms in Marathi language. The reason I am telling you this today is that even after coming to Maharashtra I have to speak in Hindi, because you do not understand Marathi. In Pune, I speak in Marathi only. But in Mumbai I have to speak in Hindi. So those who like to learn languages, should learn Marathi. It is a language to learn. And it is such a wonderful language that our Namadeva who was a saint, a very big, a very great saint, was called by Guru Nanak and told to learn Punjabi language and write his poetry in Punjabi. And Namadevaji wrote such a thick book, in Punjabi language. I too was able to speak in Punjabi when I lived in Punjab. If you can learn Marathi, then, except Tamil language, you can learn any other language. Maybe you will be able to learn a few Tamil words It's such a situation, that in this country there are fourteen official languages - we have, you will be surprised, fourteen official languages in this country. So I will say this that if you learn Marathi, you will manage to learn at least 8-9 of these fourteen languages. Now one more thing which is wonderful! The Bible has been translated, directly from Hebrew language directly in purity, in Marathi language. In this area, there was a lady called Rama Devi, very intelligent and noble. All the writings in the Bible, she made a translation of them - of all the Bible writings - and she did it in Marathi language. In that she has used Marathi names, like for John she has used the name Yohan, and for Matthews she has used Matthai. So, the Bible that I have read was in Marathi, and that is why, many times there is confusion. She has written everything very clearly and distinctly and she has written it in all its purity. And she has written in it that when Christ went to a wedding He transformed water into the juice of grapes. This is a fundamental point that she has written in Marathi. The second amazing thing is that about the childhood of Christ and about boyhood of Christ I have not read any poem in English language. I don’t know, have you ever heard a poetry piece about the description of Christ’s childhood? I have never heard one. But in Marathi we have many. Now, just yesterday they sang beautifully, "Bala vadana tava Baghuni Khrista". After seeing your small child's face - after seeing your face, your child like face - "Bala Vadana" - all my fears run away. So all this part is missing in the Western languages. I think that the childhood themes are not there. We have about Krishna, about Rama, when they were children, how they used to walk, how they used to talk, how they used to put their finger in the mouth. Every little, little thing is described so beautifully about children. And that is how I think, Indians cannot think of killing their children at all. I mean it's an impossible situation. Even in Hindi language, in Marathi language, we have such beautiful descriptions of these incarnations as children. Then the third thing, which is surprising, is that all their romance is before the marriage. After marriage there is no romance left! Third thing is that there is no romance described after marriage. All before marriage. It is the other way around in Indian languages: all the romance comes when you are married - very sweet, sweet things. I was surprised - I asked somebody to find out one English book where they have described the romance of the married couple. None! Finished! All the romance is over. Once you are married it is finished. Then what do you do? You quarrel, you fight, you go to the courts, take a divorce. That description is not there. And this is the significant thing that on us (Indians) there is a very big blessing of our Indian culture, very big! Please, remove that. Someone can come and remove it. So, I have read the translation of the Bible in Marathi. And whatever is written there, has great depth. I feel that English language has changed its essential nature. And even with regard to Christ, His sacred identity and spiritual significance has been preserved in the Marathi Bible. This is not there in the Hindi translation, nor is it there in the English version. The third thing is that the Maharashtrians have high self esteem. In Rajasthan also, the people from Mewar are very self esteemed. They would not learn anything from the British. If the English tried to teach them they would say, “Leave it. No need. We have seen many like you”. But in the North of India I have seen that they are greatly impressed by the English. Wearing good suits, wearing ties, boots, commanding and ordering others. It's not so in Maharashtra. To get a Maharashtrian wear a suit is the most difficult thing! They wear dhotis. Even educated people wear only dhotis. You can see that Tilak, who was such a great leader in the country, or we had Ranade (great leader) or Agarkar (great leader), all of them - no one wore suits and boots. No one used to wear tie or anything. Of course, if they are in government jobs, that is a different matter. But here, even to be employed in a government job was considered below ones' dignity and status. In Maharashtra, you must be knowing, that many times it has been written, it has been written many times, “Why don't you take a government job?”. And they would mention three-four names of government officials as an example that they were doing well. But there is no honor and glory in a government job. Not at all! My father used to say that working for someone was inferior. Better to have your own profession. And a government job is the lowest form of employment. It destroys a person’s character. And I've seen this is very true. Now, if someone gets into the IAS (Indian Administrative Service), then finished. His value goes up in the marriage market - 30 lakhs, 35 lakhs. An IAS Officer in North India is considered a big man. Here it's not so. But here, if a man is educated, if he is a scholar, then he is appreciated; and most of all if he is spiritually sound. This is a very great difference. And that is why in the early days in Delhi, I used to wonder what will these people understand? But it is most amazing, that in Delhi, Sahaja Yoga has spread so wide; in Lucknow also. I just cannot believe! With whose blessings has it happened? These people were so badly servile to the British. What has happened to them now? How did they get transformed? I feel that where Shri Rama and Shri Krishna, made their divine abodes, there reside their blessings. There is no other explanation. Especially Lucknow, which was a place of indulgence – eat, drink and have fun - they were all indulgent and carefree... I always hesitated as I did not know what to talk to such people. All their relationships, discussions, I just couldn’t understand. I was coming from Maharashtra and just couldn't understand their way of life. Making fun of daughter-in-law or making fun of sister-in-law, it never made sense to me! And now I perceive there the blessings of Shri Rama and Shri Krishna, the poetry of Kabir, the blessings of Nanak Sahib. Oh! These people of Punjab - I studied in Punjab, and I felt that in the brains of these people of Punjab, Sahaja Yoga will never enter! And now I was amazed! I am very amazed! So much bhakti and so much bliss and joy. How did they attain this? There were no big public programs there, nor did anyone give big lectures. How did all this happen? Now in Maharashtra, I really worked hard. Oh my God! So many villages and hamlets I visited and worked very hard. But in Maharashtra, it did not spread so much. The quality I found in North India it is not in Maharashtra. It is really surprising. I thought, all My efforts in Maharashtra will go in vain. On the contrary they got after Me! So, I discovered one thing, that there are a lot of false gurus there! So many gurus! Everyone has a personal guru; each home has a guru; It was overrun with gurus! Even in the panchang (astrological calendar) even there, every guru’s name, date of birth, place etc. is recorded! Oh My God - all completely useless people. Of course there were a few genuine gurus also but very few. Very few. The others, such useless gurus, are either interested in money or interested in women! This large land of Maharashtra, such a sacred land, has been blessed by the different aspects of the Devi Mahalakshmi, Mahasaraswati, Mahakali and Adi Shakti - all of them have place in this Mahashtra. And the eight Vinayakas and Mahavinayaka, are all sitting here. One thing is that these people are not immoral, they have no dirty thoughts, but they have no capability to understand what is dharma, They don't have the capacity. They only know going to the temples, ringing the bells and running after gurus for salvation. They are too much ritualistic people. There is no other problem of immorality with them. But they are so steeped in ritualism that they are not able to come out of all these habits. I have given you the analysis of the situation, this way. The foreigners from whom I had no expectations whatsoever - I used to feel what kind of people are these, they have no understanding of anything - and they have reached such heights. And the people of the North whom I never thought that they would come to Sahaja Yoga... I used to call Dilli (Delhi) as Billi(cat). My marriage took place in Delhi. My father also lived in Delhi. I had no hopes from North India. But, it is a very surprizing thing that today in Delhi and further North of Delhi, in Punjab, in U.P., all over, in Rajasthan, Sahaja Yoga has spread. But Maharashtra it is a misfortune. And because of it, your coming here is very important. Because of your chaitanya, a lot of awakening can take place here and people can feel it. By your coming here, your attention also comes to this place, and by that, in Maharashtra all the false gurus settled here - there are lots of them still... In Maharashtra there is a saying “Ucchal Bangdi Karle”. I cannot tell you the translation of this. The job of picking and throwing them out can be achieved only through your Chaitanya. Especially today, when you are worshiping the pure personality of Christ, His purest life, you are offering respect to Him, I would definitely say that, that all these so many false gurus settled here - which Christ, if He was here, He would have whipped them with a hunter - all such false gurus would be compelled to pick up their wares and run away! And after running away, I don't know where they will go. They have made a lot of money, and befooled many people. But there is also a kind of narrow-mindedness, a kind of foolishness in people here. Any guru comes they will prostate at his feet. There are a lot of "feet touching" devotees here! So this is one thing inside us: the capacity to get befouled! I don't know from where it has come. Whoever comes and teaches anything, its our heritage: "Gurudev has come!". It is due to this blind following that the spiritual culture of Maharashtra has been destroyed. And I would say that, today when you are worshipping the life of Christ, His simplicity, His purity, the weapon of His innocence, the power of Shri Ganesha, will definitely destroy these people, and in Maharashtra the spiritual awakening will take place as well. Here also the people will achieve that spiritual treasure and Param Tattwa (Divine essence) which existed in so many saints here. There was no saint who did not mention about Kundalini. All the saints here talked about Kundalini. Saints, one greater than the other lived in this land. I think about those saints in this country, who have worked so hard here, and tried to awaken spirituality. Here, even I could not succeed. But I congratulate you for coming here. Your coming here will definitely put sense into these people. They will realise that they are just running after false gurus. I am telling you all this because many people suggested that, "Mother, instead of Ganapatiphule, You should have your program in our place". But I said “No! You come here!" Because it is your duty that you bring about awakening within everybody. Spiritual awakening in Maharashtra is imperative. So it is necessary for you to come here. And that too, here (Ganapatipule) - the place of Shri Jesus Christ - we honor it by our coming. He is very important here. I tell you., He will take the whip to whip all these false gurus and finish them off. But you must know that today we are here to worship and awaken His supreme divinity. And with His power, Maharashtra will become purified and holy. They do a lot of worshipping of Ganesha, they worship Ganesha a lot. But who is Shri Ganesha, what does He stand for - all this they do not know. I don’t understand this. They are so entangled in this mess; and to release them it is necessary for you to come here. To come every year, and worship and celebrate the birthday of Christ is a great undertaking. My unending blessings to all of you.

Christmas Puja. Ganapatipule (Maharashtra, India), 25 December 1998. English Transcript First, I'll speak in English and then in Hindi. Today, long time back, Christ was born. You all know the story of His birth, and of all the sufferings He had to go through. He’s the One who has given us the model of Sahaja Yoga. For He didn’t live for Himself, in no way, but He lived for others, working out the Agnya Chakra. You may be Divine, you may be very powerful, but this world is so cruel that they don’t understand spirituality, they don’t understand the spiritual greatness. Not only that, but they are many factors which attack spirituality, they have always done it. Every saint has suffered a lot, but I think Christ has suffered the most. As you know, He was endowed with all the powers of Shri Ganesh, as He is the reincarnation of Shri Ganesha. The first of them was His innocence: He was the eternal child, we should say that He could not understand the cruelty and the hypocrisy of this stupid world. Still if you can understand, what can you do about it? But with great courage, He took birth in a country where people had no idea of spirituality. I read a book about Him, saying that He came to Kashmir, where He met one of My forefathers Shalivana. It’s very interesting, because it is all in Sanskrit, and the writer perhaps did not know Sanskrit, so he has given everything in Sanskrit language, which is not very congenial, I am sure, to the Western people. Thank God, he did not know Sanskrit, otherwise it would have been very dangerous. It’s written in that, that he asked Christ: “Why have You come to India?” So He said: “This is My country, that’s why I’ve come here, where people respect spirituality. But I live among people who do not understand spirituality at all.” His conversation with Him was very, very interesting, because Shalivana said that: “There is more reason that You should go back to Your country and teach them Nirmala Tattwa.” That’s the principle of purification. He went back, after three and a half years, He was crucified. I personally think the big difference between the Western execution and Indian is that in the West, killing is a very great profession. With the slightest pretext they kill people. Anybody who is a saint was killed or they called him a madcap. That’s the best way to avoid spirituality. While in India, if a saint says anything, then he is not challenged, never! But they believe in it, because he is a saint, he is a much higher personality than we are. Though they were very nasty people around and they tortured them, but as a whole, the public, the people, respected them. If they are false gurus, normally they don’t stay in this country, because they know they'll be found out. Also they are so money-oriented [Shri Mataji laughts delicatly] that they go to America or to some foreign countries and settle down there to make money. This is one of the signs, one should say. This may be one of the reasons why Christ was born in a very, very ordinary family. He had no proper bed to sleep as a child also. It’s all described: where He slept, how His mother and father lived in a place where there were cows and calves. It was to show that spirituality does not need any luxury, doesn’t need any pompous show. It is a power within. It is a glow and a light within which shows, automatically. You do not have to do anything to show it out. Such a person does not have any sense of money and other things as positions. He was bothered about people who were suffering physically, even the lepers, and He tried to cure them, He tried to help so many people who were sick physically. Because at that time, there were no hospitals, no doctors, so His attention was drawn to people who were suffering physically. Also mentally, He tried to prepare them: there are so many beautiful sermons on the mountain. In a way, that time, people were not so materialistic, so they listened to Him. We can’t say how many understood Him. It’s very important that if you are not a Realised soul, then it is difficult to understand spirituality. The one is talking about spirituality and the one who is listening to his, both of them must have minimum of Realisation. So from His beautiful life that I see, we have to learn that, unless and until we are Realised souls, we will be torturing the Spirit of Christ. We have seen it’s happening: “All those who talk of Christ”, He has said it very clearly, “they will be calling Me “Christ, Christ!” I won’t recognise you.” Very clearly, He has said it, I don’t know why they didn’t remove it from the Bible. It means those who will talk and preach and dress up to show off that they are spiritual in the name of Christ, He will not recognise them. It’s as simple as that! And this time now, when it’s the Last Judgement, He is going to judge the whole world on the basis of spirituality, which means vibrations. His Judgement has already started. I’ve seen it, you can see, in so many countries, things are just disappearing, all their ego, all their aggressiveness, all their cruelty are being challenged. And those who did wrong in the war also are taken to task. So in the history also, those who have done wrong to any community, to any people, they all will be taken to task. They had no business to be aggressive on people and to torture them. This is what is Shri Ganesha’s principle acting through Sahaja Yoga. Christ didn’t say that, but He did say: “There will be Last Judgement.” On one side, He was very kind and compassionate, on the other side, He was really Shri Ganesha, because He took a hunter to hit the people who were selling things in the temple. You cannot have business in the name of religion. What a big thing it is to understand. But the Christians didn’t follow that, they did not! I don’t know where have they gone. As we have Mahatma Gandhi who talked of spirituality and nothing else. “Adhyatma” [related to the Self, the Spirit] all the time. But his successors who came, put him somewhere with his spirituality and started a new world, new ideas, and a new style of life. Those who are supposed to be his followers are now wanting to have many pubs, and also all kinds of things, can you imagine? This Congress was started by Mahatma Gandhi, and the Congress followers are doing all this. Where are they going to lead? The beauty of this country is, the treasure of this country is spirituality. Instead of taking to spirituality, where are they going? They may not be Christians, but they respect Christ, they respect Bible. I must tell you it’s a fact people don’t know. They are not Christians, means in the sense, they are not baptised, but they respect, because they understand that there was so much of spirituality about Christ. He was the personification of spirituality. That’s the beauty of Indians, that somebody is a Hindu or is a Muslim makes no difference. There were many Muslims who were Saints and Sufis in India, they are all respected by everyone, whether they are Muslims or Hindus. So for Christ, nobody has any objection at all. On the contrary, you saw yesterday how they were all happy about it, because they are Realised souls. But even if they are not, in this country, Christ is very much respected. They can’t understand: How can they scrutinise the life of Christ? How can they judge Him and how can they make vulgar films about it? This, they can’t bear it, because the respect that they have for spirituality exists very much more than it exists outside. Because in the name of Christ, people have done such a lot of wrong. Such a lot of killing has been done, all kinds of wrong things have been accepted. With all this, one does not understand how they have judged Christ. For example, what I know, in England I saw, I was shocked that if somebody dies, they drink; if somebody’s born, they drink. Drinking is the only way they have relationships. [Shri Mataji laughs delicately] “How can you drink?” I asked them. He said: “Why? Christ created wine.” “When?” “In a wedding.” I said: “In a wedding? That was not wine, that was just the juice of the grapes that they grew there.” We call it “drakshas” [made out of grapes] in our language. How can that be wine? It has to be first fermented, it has to be rotten, how can that be?" So this is the biggest Dharma: to drink! But in India, we know, though nobody has said anything against drinking, but we know drinking is a sinful thing. You see it every day: everybody knows that if you drink, you become absolutely out of your mind. That's not a thing to be said on a religious platform, but everybody knows that what this drinking is. Not that people abroad don't know, they also know. But somehow it has become a fashion. Even in our country, it has been now introduced. I don't know how, after Independence, people have started drinking. Every party, they drink. Also in the name of Christ, on Christmas Day. It's such an insult to His beautiful holy life. So when they came on this earth, perhaps all their powers of holiness were destroyed. A very good thing about India, Indians say that at least they respect, they respect the holy places. That is something good about her. And they know what this holiness is. Now of course they are becoming very modern and Americanised, but still they know what is wrong, what should not be done. With Sahaja Yoga now, I am very happy to say that the foreign Sahaja Yogis also have become very beautiful. I'm surprised, because in their cultures, there is no spirituality. But I don't know how they left all that nonsense and have come out like lotuses beautifully, with such beautiful fragrance of spirituality. This is something, a miracle. Everybody says: "Mother, we can't believe it, how could it have happened? How could You manage this?" I would say it's the blessing of Christ. They saw how people are working out in the name of Christ in a very degraded manner, and they developed a kind of an awareness, that definitively something is wrong with it: this is not Christ, this is not His holy life they are depicting, it's something else. And that is how, I think, in the West there's a greater urge, a greater ascending force. Yesterday somebody came and told Me: "Mother, there's no collective meditation." I was very happy to hear that. What is most important is meditation in Sahaja Yoga, no doubt about it. But the foreigners, they do meditation much more than Indians do, very surprising. And foreign men and women are very highly equipped, I must say, as far as spirituality is concerned. Specially Russians, I was surprised that in America, they told Me: "Mother, these Americans are NOT Sahaja Yogis!" I said: "Why?" "They don't have that respect for You, they don't meditate. Those who do not meditate are not Sahaja Yogis." I said: "I agree." And they made all the Americans to meditate! I don't know why in this Eastern Block, people, Bulgaria and so on, Russians, Romanians, how they have taken to Sahaja Yoga so much. Of course, they had the curse of communism on them. Maybe that they felt that they had missed something in life and they went deep down into themselves. And that is how they have achieved it. But I have to tell Indians that they have to meditate. Indians have one or two very bad qualities. And that is, one of them is "groupism". For example, if they are Bhramins, they will sit together; if they are this caste, they will sit together; if they are Bhanyas, they will sit together. If that is not so, then by another name, they will group together. This is the worse curse of My country, because once you start grouping together, you can never see the good of others and you can never see the bad of yourself. This grouping together can bring lots of problem in this country. At the time of Christ, they had very different type of view: either they were interested in spirituality, or they were not. Now we have people here who are interested in spirituality, but still their one leg is in the water, where the age-old problems still exist. And this is the ruin of our country. We cannot combine together, we cannot be friends with each other. Of course not in Sahaja Yoga, I must say it has been solved very well. But if you see, even at the time of Christ, He had problems with His disciples. Specially something happened with Peter and he is the one who said: "A Satan will meet you." Because I think people fall into the group of satanic forces. And He said that He removed the satanic devils from many people and put them in the pigs. It's true, there is a satanic force which is working very strongly. The more we develop security of spirituality, the more they will develop. The satanic force is in a different form in the West and in a different form in the East. But I would like to tell for them to be careful how to find out the satanic forces in the West. You may not be affected by that, because you are Realised souls, but you'll have to fight it, you'll have to fight it. For example, racialism: racialism is still very powerful there, very very powerful. And you have to fight racialism through marrying people who belong to other races. But still I find it difficult to marry a Black person to a White person. It's an impossible situation. If I try that, I don't know what happens. Once we had such a marriage, I must tell you, and a White lady, French lady, was married to a Black man. Instead of the French lady dominating, this Black man dominated. So I was quite surprised, you know, how could that be? So the reason was, I think he was taking the revenge, maybe the respite. So first of all, tremendous love and affection has to grow between the people. This colour is so skin-deep, it has nothing to do with the love inside, nothing! It's so skin-deep. Thanks God, in our country, you can have a wife who will be very dark, husband will be very fair or vice-versa. But they never look at that from that angle. I don't think that exists in this country. But we have another kind: you see, just is a typical human problem is that he discriminates; through ego, which, I must say, Christ has tried to fight your ego. He was born in a very humble family. And He was not a white-skinned man, no! In your language, He was brown, but in Indian language, He was black. But when it comes to spirituality, you just see the enlightened one, you don't see what colour they have the skin. It's very, very superficial, but this is one of the enemies of the Western life which, I think, must be conquered. Materialism is another one, but the worst of all which is against Christ is immorality. Immorality is so much accepted in the West. All kinds of immoral behaviour is accepted. Like they say that, all these immoral people say: "Vote for somebody", he becomes the President of America. It's alright, does not matter. All kinds of immorality is allowed. But that is absolutely against Christ, absolutely! People don't understand that immorality will lead them to a kingdom which I don't know what to call, because it's even worse than animal kingdom. And they are so immoral, they listen to people like Freud, as if they have no brains, they have no Spirit, to take note of such a man. Only after Sahaja Yoga, the model of Christ life you can have. Whatever is past is over and finished. Today now you are Realised souls and morality is your strength. Forget about the past and I'm sure you can get many more people under the banner of Sahaja Yoga if you lead a very, very moral life. At the same time, another very bad enemy we have is our anger. So, they are very proud, they'll say: "I'll now get angry." "You know, I'm very angry." They are not ashamed about it. And they go on saying that: "I'm very angry", as if it's not wrong to say: "I'm very angry." Now they say: "I hate", I mean, imagine any Indian language they'd use this word, it would mean "I am committing sin". So all this aggressiveness comes from anger. If somebody has to be angry, he should be angry with himself. Best is to get rid of anger: you can pull your hair, you can bite yourself, you can use your pillow to hit yourself! [laughs] That may be the best way to take out your anger. But see for what you are angry: sometimes it's absolutely useless, sometimes it has no meaning, sometimes it's absolutely maddening stupid! But as long as you stop saying: "I am very angry", that's it, that's the time you should understand you are falling down completely. So Christ didn't talk of all the subtle things I have been talking to you, because that was left to Me: without Realisation, how can you talk about subtler things? You cannot! Last time, I told you about the vibrations, what it is and what it stands for and how you get the subtle energy that we call as "Tanmatra", of our light, Tej, of water, Jal, and Vayu, Agni. But I didn't tell you of one, very special one which is in English language you call it Ether. But Ether is another energy which is managed by another Tanmatra, we call it Akash. Especially today, because it's Christ who has sacrificed His life to open our Agnya Chakra that we have reached that state of Akash. Without Him, it would not have been possible. We can have general communication, like we can talk to people, we can say things, we can also use our fingers to express ourselves, our hands to communicate. But to communicate vibrations, you have to have vibrations. Otherwise you cannot feel another person. But if you are at the Agnya level, means you are mental, absolutely mental, then your vibrations also are dwindling, in the sense you don't know really what they are saying. You can't judge your vibrations because these vibrations are mental. They say: "Mother, we asked the vibrations." I say: "Really? But you don't have any vibrations, how can you ask the vibrations?" Very common thing: "We asked the vibrations, we found from the vibrations". It's not possible, because you are just mental. Now what Christ has done is to put you AWAY from the mental level, that is the most difficult. While I am surprised, those who follow Christianity have the worst mental position, they are mentally absolutely there, I don't know how to call, like the fog of Delhi… [laughs] that you can't cross! That fog was broken by Christ. How much we should be obliged to Him, that He removed the greatest hurdle in the human ascent and that one was to break this Agnya, the mental being within us. We read like mad, we listen to people like mad, we like those who give us food for our mental brain. They are so mental, so argumentative, think no end of their intelligence that you just have to say: “All right, Namaskar!” You can’t fight their mental attitude. That’s why Christ is to be worshipped by people who are so very mental. And this mental nonsense has given such a sense of superiority to people –“Oh, whatever we do… What’s wrong? What’s wrong?” They cannot correct themselves, because, unless and until you cross this limit of mental being, you cannot see yourself. You cannot introspect, you cannot see yourself. You’ll see others: “These Sahaja Yogis are like this… Sahaja Yoga is like that…” –all kinds of things. But you can’t see yourself, because the whole thing is mental. This mental attitude should be completely curbed through the help of our Lord Jesus Christ. But He is only mental –in your brains, Christ is also mental, now what to do? The one who broke the mental attitude is also mental –you have made Him into mental like a statue of stone. So firstly we have to tell ourselves: “Now, don’t think, don’t think, don’t think, don’t think!” Four times. And then you can rise above it. And this is very important. In meditation, you have to go beyond the mind and, thanks to Christ, that He is sitting at the Agnya, to finish off this nonsense of mental being. I think people should stop reading also, perhaps, maybe. Even My lecture becomes mental, what to do? I mean, everything that goes into their head becomes mental, somehow, and then they ask Me questions: “Mother, did You say this way?” I said: “I said it to make you thoughtless, just to stun you. I didn’t say this to sit down and analyse and do… no, no. I said this, that you should become absolutely shocked and stunned.” So, the best thing for all of you is to become thoughtless. That’s the blessing of Christ, that’s what He worked it out for and I am sure if you work it out, that don’t pay attention to others... Don’t react, just don’t react. Everything they will see, they will react. What is the need? What is the use? What are you going to do with that reaction? This reaction creates nothing but ripples of thoughts in your minds –I have told you hundreds of times and now you have to become absolutely thoughtless after this Puja. If that happens, I think we have achieved a lot. That’s the biggest blessing that Christ has given you, which you should really enjoy. Then only this Akash Tattwa in you will work. And how it works? Through your attention. It works with Me, as you know. With My attention, I work out many things. How? Just My attention has become thoughtless. Just thoughtless. It goes, wherever it goes, it works. But if you put your attention for thought all the time, for thinking, then it doesn’t do the work that it is supposed to do. Attention works marvellously, if you are thoughtless, otherwise it doesn’t. So it has to rise from your own self, then from others, to the higher level of humanity, where you are in communication with the sky, with we can call it as the “Tanmatra” or the essential or the essence of ether. With ether, you can have television, you can have telephone, it’s a miracle otherwise. But with this Tanmatra, sitting down here, you can do the job, it works. Just attention works, I know that, you also know very well. You don’t have to ask Me to put the attention, you just put attention and it will work. It is a very important thing that you have got. I think that is the first thing, once you have - no problem. But we start manifesting from the Earth element. Then from the Agni element, then from the Jal element and then we come to Tejas, that the face starts shining. But lastly we get this thoughtless awareness by which our attention is absolutely free to do some special work. But if you are all the time thinking, then, poor, this attention is so busy, you know, so very busy. You don’t have to ask Me then: “Mother, please pay attention”, you can pay attention and you can work it out. In this attention, you don’t feel what you got, what you're standing, what you are wearing, what others are doing – no, nothing! You are one with yourself. And it’s a life full of humour, so much humour, so much of joy, so much of happiness, that you don’t care for anything that normally people care for. So, as it is now, Sahaja Yoga has worked in so many countries. I am so very proud of you, very proud of you. And now it is also going to African countries, it’s a very great satisfaction for Me. And you all can do it. You all can work it out. Only thing, become thoughtlessly aware, as the blessing of Christ. If it works, you will be absolutely enjoying yourself. May God bless you! Translation from Hindi The fact is that this English language has been imposed on us for the past three hundred years. I have never studied the English language. Never! Even in school there was a small book, and in the Medical College, no one taught English as a language. My father used to say, “It is such an easy language and there are so few words in it, that there is no need to study it.” And he admitted us into a Marathi medium school. And he used to advise us, "Learn Marathi and Sanskrit language". So, I did not study Sanskrit language and as for Hindi, I never ever studied Hindi language. No question about that! Didn't learn in school or in college Didn't learn Hindi language anywhere! But there is one good quality in Me, which I must tell you about, that whenever I speak in Hindi, I can speak only in Hindi; and when I speak Marathi I can speak only in Marathi language, and when I speak in English, I can speak only English. It is very difficult for Me to translate from one to the other. That is why I cannot mix them up. Each of these three languages is different from the others. Now no one will believe that I have not studied Hindi language. But because of My interest in reading, interest in reading good Hindi books, I learnt the Hindi language. But in the beginning My Hindi speaking had a lot of words and influence from Sanskrit. Because Maharastrians speak like that only. They don't know day-to-day Hindi language. When they speak Hindi more than half of the words will be Sanskrit and the rest will be Marathi. You understand? This is the condition. What I have understood from all this is, that even language comes as a gift of God. Like you have a gift in music and arts, in the same way, aptitude for languages is also a blessing. And by that, one can master many languages. But the Hindi speaking people cannot learn any other language. The reason for this is - for example the English people also, they cannot learn any other language. And even if they learn it, they will not be fluent. The reason is that everyone can speak English, so there is no interest for them in learning any other language. Now the Hindi speaking people have this problem that they just cannot speak any other language. I will never insist that you must learn Marathi, because Marathi language is very complicated. It's very difficult. Only Maharashtrians can understand it. And it has so much merriment and so many jokes. There is nothing indecent in that language. There is not even a bit of filth or indecency in it. It is such a profound and expressive language that for Sahaja Yoga there is no other language that is more appropriate than Marathi. Because only in Marathi a description of Kundalini was written. Whatever has been written by saints and sages, has been written in Marathi language. And if you learn Marathi, you can learn any other language. There is no doubt in this. But Maharashtrians will not learn any other language. They are very obstinate. I asked someone, “Just read this Hindi book”. He read a little bit, and put it down. I asked him: “Why?” and he said, “It is full of rubbish! Only nonsense is written, I don’t want to read it!” Because Marathi is such a clean language with such pure thoughts, that after reading... After reading Gita, you cannot read wayside books of dirt and filth. You will not understand them! So if some of you start learning Marathi, it will be a good thing. But it is a very difficult language to master. There are a lot of synonyms in Marathi language. The reason I am telling you this today is that even after coming to Maharashtra I have to speak in Hindi, because you do not understand Marathi. In Pune, I speak in Marathi only. But in Mumbai I have to speak in Hindi. So those who like to learn languages, should learn Marathi. It is a language to learn. And it is such a wonderful language that our Namadeva who was a saint, a very big, a very great saint, was called by Guru Nanak and told to learn Punjabi language and write his poetry in Punjabi. And Namadevaji wrote such a thick book, in Punjabi language. I too was able to speak in Punjabi when I lived in Punjab. If you can learn Marathi, then, except Tamil language, you can learn any other language. Maybe you will be able to learn a few Tamil words It's such a situation, that in this country there are fourteen official languages - we have, you will be surprised, fourteen official languages in this country. So I will say this that if you learn Marathi, you will manage to learn at least 8-9 of these fourteen languages. Now one more thing which is wonderful! The Bible has been translated, directly from Hebrew language directly in purity, in Marathi language. In this area, there was a lady called Rama Devi, very intelligent and noble. All the writings in the Bible, she made a translation of them - of all the Bible writings - and she did it in Marathi language. In that she has used Marathi names, like for John she has used the name Yohan, and for Matthews she has used Matthai. So, the Bible that I have read was in Marathi, and that is why, many times there is confusion. She has written everything very clearly and distinctly and she has written it in all its purity. And she has written in it that when Christ went to a wedding He transformed water into the juice of grapes. This is a fundamental point that she has written in Marathi. The second amazing thing is that about the childhood of Christ and about boyhood of Christ I have not read any poem in English language. I don’t know, have you ever heard a poetry piece about the description of Christ’s childhood? I have never heard one. But in Marathi we have many. Now, just yesterday they sang beautifully, "Bala vadana tava Baghuni Khrista". After seeing your small child's face - after seeing your face, your child like face - "Bala Vadana" - all my fears run away. So all this part is missing in the Western languages. I think that the childhood themes are not there. We have about Krishna, about Rama, when they were children, how they used to walk, how they used to talk, how they used to put their finger in the mouth. Every little, little thing is described so beautifully about children. And that is how I think, Indians cannot think of killing their children at all. I mean it's an impossible situation. Even in Hindi language, in Marathi language, we have such beautiful descriptions of these incarnations as children. Then the third thing, which is surprising, is that all their romance is before the marriage. After marriage there is no romance left! Third thing is that there is no romance described after marriage. All before marriage. It is the other way around in Indian languages: all the romance comes when you are married - very sweet, sweet things. I was surprised - I asked somebody to find out one English book where they have described the romance of the married couple. None! Finished! All the romance is over. Once you are married it is finished. Then what do you do? You quarrel, you fight, you go to the courts, take a divorce. That description is not there. And this is the significant thing that on us (Indians) there is a very big blessing of our Indian culture, very big! Please, remove that. Someone can come and remove it. So, I have read the translation of the Bible in Marathi. And whatever is written there, has great depth. I feel that English language has changed its essential nature. And even with regard to Christ, His sacred identity and spiritual significance has been preserved in the Marathi Bible. This is not there in the Hindi translation, nor is it there in the English version. The third thing is that the Maharashtrians have high self esteem. In Rajasthan also, the people from Mewar are very self esteemed. They would not learn anything from the British. If the English tried to teach them they would say, “Leave it. No need. We have seen many like you”. But in the North of India I have seen that they are greatly impressed by the English. Wearing good suits, wearing ties, boots, commanding and ordering others. It's not so in Maharashtra. To get a Maharashtrian wear a suit is the most difficult thing! They wear dhotis. Even educated people wear only dhotis. You can see that Tilak, who was such a great leader in the country, or we had Ranade (great leader) or Agarkar (great leader), all of them - no one wore suits and boots. No one used to wear tie or anything. Of course, if they are in government jobs, that is a different matter. But here, even to be employed in a government job was considered below ones' dignity and status. In Maharashtra, you must be knowing, that many times it has been written, it has been written many times, “Why don't you take a government job?”. And they would mention three-four names of government officials as an example that they were doing well. But there is no honor and glory in a government job. Not at all! My father used to say that working for someone was inferior. Better to have your own profession. And a government job is the lowest form of employment. It destroys a person’s character. And I've seen this is very true. Now, if someone gets into the IAS (Indian Administrative Service), then finished. His value goes up in the marriage market - 30 lakhs, 35 lakhs. An IAS Officer in North India is considered a big man. Here it's not so. But here, if a man is educated, if he is a scholar, then he is appreciated; and most of all if he is spiritually sound. This is a very great difference. And that is why in the early days in Delhi, I used to wonder what will these people understand? But it is most amazing, that in Delhi, Sahaja Yoga has spread so wide; in Lucknow also. I just cannot believe! With whose blessings has it happened? These people were so badly servile to the British. What has happened to them now? How did they get transformed? I feel that where Shri Rama and Shri Krishna, made their divine abodes, there reside their blessings. There is no other explanation. Especially Lucknow, which was a place of indulgence – eat, drink and have fun - they were all indulgent and carefree... I always hesitated as I did not know what to talk to such people. All their relationships, discussions, I just couldn’t understand. I was coming from Maharashtra and just couldn't understand their way of life. Making fun of daughter-in-law or making fun of sister-in-law, it never made sense to me! And now I perceive there the blessings of Shri Rama and Shri Krishna, the poetry of Kabir, the blessings of Nanak Sahib. Oh! These people of Punjab - I studied in Punjab, and I felt that in the brains of these people of Punjab, Sahaja Yoga will never enter! And now I was amazed! I am very amazed! So much bhakti and so much bliss and joy. How did they attain this? There were no big public programs there, nor did anyone give big lectures. How did all this happen? Now in Maharashtra, I really worked hard. Oh my God! So many villages and hamlets I visited and worked very hard. But in Maharashtra, it did not spread so much. The quality I found in North India it is not in Maharashtra. It is really surprising. I thought, all My efforts in Maharashtra will go in vain. On the contrary they got after Me! So, I discovered one thing, that there are a lot of false gurus there! So many gurus! Everyone has a personal guru; each home has a guru; It was overrun with gurus! Even in the panchang (astrological calendar) even there, every guru’s name, date of birth, place etc. is recorded! Oh My God - all completely useless people. Of course there were a few genuine gurus also but very few. Very few. The others, such useless gurus, are either interested in money or interested in women! This large land of Maharashtra, such a sacred land, has been blessed by the different aspects of the Devi Mahalakshmi, Mahasaraswati, Mahakali and Adi Shakti - all of them have place in this Mahashtra. And the eight Vinayakas and Mahavinayaka, are all sitting here. One thing is that these people are not immoral, they have no dirty thoughts, but they have no capability to understand what is dharma, They don't have the capacity. They only know going to the temples, ringing the bells and running after gurus for salvation. They are too much ritualistic people. There is no other problem of immorality with them. But they are so steeped in ritualism that they are not able to come out of all these habits. I have given you the analysis of the situation, this way. The foreigners from whom I had no expectations whatsoever - I used to feel what kind of people are these, they have no understanding of anything - and they have reached such heights. And the people of the North whom I never thought that they would come to Sahaja Yoga... I used to call Dilli (Delhi) as Billi(cat). My marriage took place in Delhi. My father also lived in Delhi. I had no hopes from North India. But, it is a very surprizing thing that today in Delhi and further North of Delhi, in Punjab, in U.P., all over, in Rajasthan, Sahaja Yoga has spread. But Maharashtra it is a misfortune. And because of it, your coming here is very important. Because of your chaitanya, a lot of awakening can take place here and people can feel it. By your coming here, your attention also comes to this place, and by that, in Maharashtra all the false gurus settled here - there are lots of them still... In Maharashtra there is a saying “Ucchal Bangdi Karle”. I cannot tell you the translation of this. The job of picking and throwing them out can be achieved only through your Chaitanya. Especially today, when you are worshiping the pure personality of Christ, His purest life, you are offering respect to Him, I would definitely say that, that all these so many false gurus settled here - which Christ, if He was here, He would have whipped them with a hunter - all such false gurus would be compelled to pick up their wares and run away! And after running away, I don't know where they will go. They have made a lot of money, and befooled many people. But there is also a kind of narrow-mindedness, a kind of foolishness in people here. Any guru comes they will prostate at his feet. There are a lot of "feet touching" devotees here! So this is one thing inside us: the capacity to get befouled! I don't know from where it has come. Whoever comes and teaches anything, its our heritage: "Gurudev has come!". It is due to this blind following that the spiritual culture of Maharashtra has been destroyed. And I would say that, today when you are worshipping the life of Christ, His simplicity, His purity, the weapon of His innocence, the power of Shri Ganesha, will definitely destroy these people, and in Maharashtra the spiritual awakening will take place as well. Here also the people will achieve that spiritual treasure and Param Tattwa (Divine essence) which existed in so many saints here. There was no saint who did not mention about Kundalini. All the saints here talked about Kundalini. Saints, one greater than the other lived in this land. I think about those saints in this country, who have worked so hard here, and tried to awaken spirituality. Here, even I could not succeed. But I congratulate you for coming here. Your coming here will definitely put sense into these people. They will realise that they are just running after false gurus. I am telling you all this because many people suggested that, "Mother, instead of Ganapatiphule, You should have your program in our place". But I said “No! You come here!" Because it is your duty that you bring about awakening within everybody. Spiritual awakening in Maharashtra is imperative. So it is necessary for you to come here. And that too, here (Ganapatipule) - the place of Shri Jesus Christ - we honor it by our coming. He is very important here. I tell you., He will take the whip to whip all these false gurus and finish them off. But you must know that today we are here to worship and awaken His supreme divinity. And with His power, Maharashtra will become purified and holy. They do a lot of worshipping of Ganesha, they worship Ganesha a lot. But who is Shri Ganesha, what does He stand for - all this they do not know. I don’t understand this. They are so entangled in this mess; and to release them it is necessary for you to come here. To come every year, and worship and celebrate the birthday of Christ is a great undertaking. My unending blessings to all of you.

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New Year's eve Puja (English part). Kalve (India), 31 December 1998. Firstly I will speak in English language as we have many Sahaja Yogis from abroad. They have asked me to talk about Indian culture today because Bombay is the place where Indian culture is disappearing, that's what they say. But I don't think so, because the roots are so deep that we cannot give up that culture so fast. Now as it is for the people who are coming from other countries, they have to realize that this country had no religion as such, because there was not one book, they didn't follow one person, they didn't have any organizations as we have for other religions, we never had a higher priesthood or all those appointed people, it was all done very spontaneously. The whole thing worked out very spontaneously. But behind all that was, as I told you before, the attitude of Indians or our style was, not to challenge or to question what these great saints have given us. Because we accepted their status as saints, as higher personalities in a way - in a sense they were higher than us. So we didn't want to challenge them, and whatever they said we accepted. As a result that became sort of, you can call it, a way of conduct or way of life. But as a religion we had nothing, except that later on the caste system developed. Before that there was no caste system because non-Brahmins wrote about Shri Rama or wrote about Shri Krishna. It's very surprising how we accepted all that, never challenged whether it was written by a Brahmin or not. Brahmin was that who knew about Brahma principle, the principle of all-pervading Divine Love. Everybody was not a Brahmin, but later on they made it like this, whosoever is born in a Brahmin family was a Brahmin, whosoever was born in another caste belonged to that. But because of the father's heritance, you can say inherited, they also had the profession that they were following. So according to the professions, the religions, or you can say the castes were established; no religion, but caste. And that is how we had different, different caste systems in India according to the professions. It is very interesting. Recently, I discovered there is a caste called Ghadani, among Marathas, which you may not be knowing. They only believe in the art. They do music, or they have paintings, they make statues, they make temples; that's a caste, that's a profession. And they marry among themselves because it is easier to marry in the same profession and to have the same ideas and styles about life and the profession especially. Now later on, apart from being a profession, it started becoming a very consolidated nonsense. And then they used, I mean I think, it is the British who used it very much to separate us from one to another. Now the schedule caste and all that was not also like a religious thing. We have got saints like Chokha Mela and all that, who were also greatly respected and regarded. Also Ekanath, Namdev, they all tried to be one with all the castes, and especially the schedule caste. So this saintliness was regarded as a another caste you can say, which did not believe in any caste whatsoever. They had no caste, they were a caste-less people without any religion, without any caste. So the ultimate aim of every caste was to get to Self Realization. So they enter into the clan, you can call it, into the system of saints. And all the saints, whether Muslims, or Hindus or Jains or anything, they all were put together as saints, as you can say they were Sufis. Sufis from the Muslim heritage they came. Then we had also among Jains, Tirthankaras and all that. The main point was that they were the people who believed in the ethical life, ethics, believed in the higher life, spiritual life and lived like that. Now as you are all Sahaja Yogis, you have lost your religion, lost your caste, you have lost your heritage. You are Sahaja Yogis. Yogis, means you are the people who are believing into the ethical side of life. In this country all this was used and was exploited also, for politics, for all kinds of segregation of people. And that has really gone into such rigid ideas about every one, every caste, that first thing they used to ask, not now, before, 'What is your caste?' Now that's over, they don't ask, at least thank God, that much sense is there, that they don't ask for the caste, but they used to ask religion and caste formerly when we were entering into any examination or any kind of competition. Now gradually it's vanishing, but the politicians wants to use caste as a method of working out the opposition and the majority part of it. This democracy I don't think is very helpful to us because in democracy anybody can start an organization, can say that, "We belong to this caste and that caste." And when the constitution was made also in this country, it's very surprising, Ambedkar was one of them who wanted that there should be a privilege for the schedule caste for forty years. My father was there. He said, 'No, you can have only two types, ones who have and those who don't have.' And that kind of thing if you have: those who have and don't have, it would make such a difference. Then in other countries they have the same type, so that the needs of the people who haven't got the minimum necessities for a good life will be helped instead of creating a caste. Now there's one fellow called Mandal who created a great problem in our country. He as a student had a car of his own, used to live very lavishly, and he was fighting for some people who were supposed to be downtrodden. And so many bad things have been done because of his report that he gave. Now if he had made that kind of a proper, sensible, ethical division in this country, things would have been much better. But now because of this problem of creating artificial caste, this country is suffering a lot and the castes of the gurus, the castes, we can say, of the Sufis, other castes of the saints is very much polluted and we had many people in our country who started becoming gurus and this and that. But the main thing is the ethics, which was the culture of this country, was the ethics of dharma. Without that they thought human beings were worse than animals. Ethics was very important to every caste, to every person. Even when I was young we had the same thing. But now it has become such a mixture and such a problem, that unless and until Sahaja Yoga really spreads in a real way I don't think we can improve the condition of this country. Now the essence of it is that once your attention is only towards ethics and Aadhyatama (MEANS spirituality -ed), then you start discovering all the inner deeper meanings of your life. You work it out in a different way. In a very different way you work it out. If it is material gain, then one can become like America. If it is some sort of a very low level hankerings, then also you cannot be an Indian. The principles of Indian life were embedded in spirituality, in morality. An immoral person was regarded as a very low level person. Such a person could not get married, he had no place in the society, he had no place even in the homes, their own homes. That such a restriction on people, just to see that the society is kept clean, and such a person was thrown out of the society. Anybody who even drank wine or anything, was regarded as a person who is not dharmic, he is adharmic. Can you believe it? Drinking was regarded as adharmic. I think very few people must have seen drunkards, only on the streets. When I went to Russia they asked Me, "What do you say for 'cheers'?" The Russians say 'cheerio', they don't say 'cheers'. I said, "What? Cheers for what?" For drinking. When you are on the table, what do you say? I said, "We never drink on the dinner table, that's not done in India. At least, I don't know if somebody does it, but it is a very, very western style of life that openly you sit down at the dinner table before your children and start drinking, and say 'cheers'. Cheers for what? For becoming unconscious? For becoming stupid? For getting into troubles? But it became like a practice there. Whether somebody dies in the family, they will drink, can you imagine! If somebody is born in the family they will drink. So this culture, the whole culture was so bad, even among the worst in this country they wouldn't do that. Secretly some people used to drink, and they would go on the street. Then the Islamic influence came. And surprisingly when it is prohibited, absolutely prohibited, in the Islam, to drink, they all started drinking as a reaction, but only those Nawabs and all that. And because of them, because they were in authority, others also took to drink. But still, it is not yet a custom to drink, to celebrate something. I mean supposing, even in the church they give drinks and they make also some sort of a Benedictine, in the church organization. Imagine! This is such a perversion of religion. In India also, in the temples and all that they started all kinds of nonsensical things, no doubt. But Indian philosophy is such that it gives you complete freedom and you can do what you like. But not in the name of religion, you can't do it, not in the name of God, not in the temple. And if they do it, people will throw them away, they bring a court case, do this do that and, I mean, just remove it completely. So it is kept pure. We had a horrible incidence of horrible things people were doing, adharmic, but all that had to be cancelled completely. Why? Because the people wouldn't have it. People wouldn't like it. I was told that at Ganapatipule they are secretly offering some sort of a beer. But if the government comes to know about it, it will be banned. I mean, whatever is pure must be kept pure. Christ, also, He took one hunter in his hand and started hitting people who were selling things in the temple. So the purity of that church or the purity of that religious place have to be kept. So the first thing I think was purity. Here now I have seen, the other day, there was a boy, was for marriage, and it's very surprising, they were all very well off, very rich, everything was there. But they found out that he had a girlfriend before. And the brother of the girlfriend tried to stab him. Finished. Now for him to get married is an impossibility in this country. He might get somebody from abroad, I don't know what they will do. But if he had a girlfriend like that, openly, he is finished. So the restrictions came from the society, a society which was built up on ethics. And all these ethical values are penetrating up to the lowest level, up to everywhere. But unfortunately, unfortunately now the other cultures are coming and people think we are rather rigid, very rigid people. We should really relax a little bit and take to other things. But I have to tell you that if you go out of the line of ethics, in any direction, the only saving is Sahaja Yoga to come back to normalcy, there is no other way out. And once you come to Sahaja Yoga you cannot deviate from the path of dharma. If you try to do that you go out of Sahaja Yoga. It is as simple as that. It is not that, 'All right, doesn't matter, Mother should forgive.' and these things. I forgive, all right, I forgive, because you have got some still human weaknesses left in you, I forgive. But in Sahaja Yoga you cannot. Sahaja Yoga has to maintain its purity. If you allow all such people to enter into Sahaja Yoga, then there will be no purity of Sahaja Yoga and then everybody will start doing this or that just to say that, 'After all, you see, we are also Sahaja Yogis, they are also Sahaja Yogis, if they have done it, why not we?' What is very surprising to Me is the western people who have taken to Sahaja Yoga are scrupulously following Sahaja Yoga. Scrupulously. I am not such a strict Guru, as you know. But they understand one thing, that this is for our betterment, this is for our growth, this is a very, very important part of our lives, that is ethics. That has to be there. And once they understand it, I tell you, I am surprised how these western people who have seen their parents drinking, and also other people doing all kinds of things, even their friends and all that, they just give up, completely. I am very proud of them. For us Indians, it is natural, because we are brought up that way. All the time we have seen people being corrected and, I mean of course drinking and all that was of course not out of question but even if somebody looks at a girl, you know, the father would say, 'I will pierce through your eyes!' And that's why the eyes remain steady, and I don't know how but we don't do all that. Normally. I mean if somebody has been abroad and all that and thinks that they are very free people and why not we can do, that's a very different thing. But normally we don't, we don't believe in that. Of course in India we do have some elite societies, so called; they are the people who believe in all kinds of elite behavior. I don't know what is that supposed to be. Maybe some of them have started some nonsense, especially in Bombay. Now it is spreading out also to Poona. And in Poona there are girls who are behaving funnily. I mean I can't believe it. They drink, they smoke, they would become call-girls. All this has happened because they don't know what is their idea about life. Or maybe it's an actress or something they follow, but what is the life of that actress? Unethical behavior, when you compromise with your value system, ultimately, where do you end? It's showing results. We have AIDS, we have so many diseases coming from this kind of irrelevant, unethical life. It is happening everywhere to suggest that we should take to very normal life, to very good family life of obedience and understanding. But because you are very free in the West it is difficult for you to accept, but once they come to Sahaja Yoga I am really surprised, I am really surprised, how they have accepted Sahaja Yoga so beautifully. They had the freedom, complete freedom to do what they liked. In India we don't have such freedom for children. They can go wherever they like, they can do whatever they like, the teacher cannot correct them. Because of that freedom that they had, there's one thing good that has happened. So many are lost, all right, but those who are saved are rare people. Because of that growth of freedom within them I think they learn our Indian music in five months, four months. No Indians can do it because they are restricted all the time, they are controlled all the time, they are kept on the path of religion. So ultimately the freedom that some of you had and enjoyed has given you a special personality. That you pick up very difficult things without any effort. Now whether you should have that freedom or not is your own lookout. But too much restrictions on children, I think, is not a good thing. Now in music, I know, Ravi Shankar when he was young, his guru had broken a tanpura on his head because he put a wrong note. Can you imagine? They used to beat them, tie them upside down, put them in the well, I mean all kinds of things they did and the disciples listened to all that discipline. Can you imagine? But I think that curbed their capacity to absorb something difficult. This is one of the reasons why I see this has happened, that people have picked up this difficult music in four months, three months, it's a miracle we think. Why not this happens with Indians? You put them to anything, they pick it up so fast. With Sahaja Yoga, born with Sahaja Yoga, those who are, should be given full freedom I think. Such children should be given full freedom for they will not do anything wrong. And you will see they will pick up things very fast. Not that westerners are more intelligent or alert, but the way they are given freedom, their growth, their personality. Sometimes they are like a vagabond, I think. Sometimes just like a tomboy. Sometimes to me they look like very vulgar, but once with that wealth of freedom they come to reality, they shine. So I would request also Indians, not to suppress their children too much. We enjoy the children very much in India, no doubt, but we suppress also them, very much. 'Why are you standing? Why don't you sit down?' And children don't mind because it is accepted, this pattern is accepted in India. So too much restriction on children also curbs their personality, this is what I have discovered. But the western people go through such hell first of all, develop such problems to begin with and ultimately what happens is this, that they can be discarded as bad, bad, bad people. But if they come as good, good, good they are marvelous. All the freedom they have enjoyed before is showing results, otherwise how can this miracle happen to western people. There is no justification. Now the problem is to give freedom or not. We have a proper sense now, after Realization, that a child is a born realized. In the beginning he won't understand, he won't understand. But gradually such a child will show results, maximum capacity to absorb and to express. So today I am telling you about this freedom, which is the freedom of the Spirit. We should have understanding of such children who have that spirituality in them. They have dharma in them. And we should not try to constrict them or to trouble them. Let them do what they like. They'll never do anything wrong because they are born realized. So I am talking about the future Indians. Some of them I have seen, eight year old children, six year old children, they are geniuses, I tell you. They sing as if we feel that these old musicians are reborn or what. It is very surprising how they show their talent. There was a programme I saw on the television of children below eight years and a three year old girl singing just like Hirabai Badodekar. I was amazed. They are born realized but also they have the talents from their past life. They have got it from the past life. So we should not try to control and check our children too much, that's a part of our Sahaja culture. It doesn't fit into Indian culture, I must say, but it should fit into Sahaja culture, to understand the value of our children who are realized souls. I enjoy their company, they speak so sweetly of all the things, of all the persons, and they describe about everyone so sweetly. Just allow them the freedom to talk and they'll tell you all kinds of things. Now I have praised you a lot I think. The outsiders we can call them, non-Indians, and it is a fact, the way they have taken to Sahaja Yoga is remarkable. But the way they are taking to this Indian music and to Indian art I can't believe it, really I can't believe it. I can't understand it. So you have freedom, but now use this freedom for expression of whatever you have achieved in Sahaja Yoga. Because you are already grown up with your freedom and if you do not utilize that personality full of freedom in expressing Sahaja Yoga in your own languages, you won't help your people. You have to help them because your percentage is very low, your quality is high. But in your own country your percentage is low. So you have to go all out to get them into Sahaja Yoga and to let them know what they can achieve and what they are. You are duty bound, I think. Transcript of 1998-12-31 New Year Puja Talk, Kalwe, India (Hindi/Marathi) video [Marathi to English translation] Here, small children have too much of freedom, too much because as per the law they can’t do anything to the children. If a teacher shouts at a child, then they can remove the teacher from the job. This kind of freedom they have there. And the children are in vain (‘वाहियात’) there, I agree to this. They behave the way they want, they do what they want. And there is no one to stop them, no one to tell them. One day I was going by a train, I was in the first class and there were around 25-30 children who came in my compartment. And in their hands they carried knives (‘सुऱ्या’) and blades. I thought are they going to kill me. They said, ‘we are not going to do anything to you as you are sitting quietly.’ I asked, ‘what do you do?’ They said that ‘we tear the cushions (in the train) and see what is there in it.’ I said, ‘there will be only cotton in it, what else.’ They said, ‘no-no, you let it be. We want to see.’ They started tearing all of it, cutting it. I don’t understand what type of children they are. At the train station, I was a scared, I called the station master. Then when he came, (we came to know) that these children were going to very good schools and there were some 3-4 under age children in the group who were beat (by the station master) black and blue. When they were asked, why you did this, they said that, ‘we were seeing what is there in the chairs?’ I did not like them beating (the children), why to beat? Now what happened has happened. They said ‘Don’t talk (to us) like this.’ I said, am talking the right thing. The children were beaten and they were all crying. They were all small-small kids, their age may have been around 7-8 years. And these 4-5 people came and started beating. Then they asked, ‘in your India, do children behave this way?’ I said ‘they will never behave this way, no chance.’ Children going to good schools will never do anything like this. They will be silent. Even when someone comes homes, they will be told to sit silently and not talk. If they go to anybody’s house they should not ask anything. So the children, if they are given anything, they will look up in a way asking, whether to take it or not? The question they have is if we take it, will we get beating back home or what? The mother or the father will say yes, then only they will take it. And when the children are turned around, then it feels nice, you feel good when you behave well with the children. But then we are too much (‘जबरदस्त’) knocking down. We always go on dictating children, sit here, sit there, have you done this, have you done in the morning, I think we are too much throaty (‘गलचिपळी’) of them is what I feel. Because now when I see their children (referring to the foreigners) when they first came to our school, the school is in the jungles, again the school is at height (above the sea level), where they will fall, will slip (‘धरपडतील’), or what they will do, is what we are worried. Slowly-slowly they understood, it came in their mind, now such small children, what houses they build, what paintings they do, our children can never do it. Means the competence (‘कर्तृत्व पणा’) that they have in them I think is killed within us. The competence should not be killed, we should get the righteousness, we should get the innocence. Not only that, but there should be respect for elders within them. But respect achieved by beating is of what use? Now these people (referring to the foreigners), they are not kids, all are big, when they came to our academy, within three months – four months, they were able to play the ‘malkauns’ raag. I said to myself, ‘Oh my God’. For our people to play the ‘malkauns’ raag our people have austerity (‘तपस्या’) for ten-ten years and still no one achieves the state of a Guru even by force. They open up by that force (‘झोरपडण्यातनं’) somehow to become a big musician, their only health is good. In that after in numerous beatings, the disciples are ready. This Ravi Shankar (famous Indian music composer) has taken so much beatings from his Guru. Not only him, I have heard about others as well, they have got a hammering and in the end what after constant abrade (‘रगडल्यावर’) for 10 years, 12 years, 14 years, they learn music. But how did these people (Shri Mataji is referring to the foreigners) learn it in 3 to 4 months? These people don’t know anything about us, our music, culture. And how did these people learn, they have learnt the tune (‘रागकारी’), they learnt everything (about music). Then a thought came to my head that we have (pamper) our kids a lot, they have become very gentle like feather (‘पंखकपृष्ट’). Kids are not treated with love, always why are you behaving like this, why you are sitting here, sitting there, like this, like that, it goes on. I have never done this to my children. But I can see others doing this. And giving children every now and then (‘उठल्या सुटल्या’) something else by which their self-esteem diminishes. Things like this is too much in our place, due to this the children will learn, will read a lot, but they will not learn the art or the creativity in it. Appearance of Shrikala (‘श्रीकला चा प्रादुर्भाव’) is less, but more stress should be on establishing the righteousness. If it comes in a free mind then it is special. What is the point of chanting ‘Ram Ram’ forcefully? It should come in a free mind. But after coming to Sahaja yoga, you should understand this much that your kids who are born realised, those who are realised by birth itself, then you should keep their respect. Sages, saints are coming to your house. You should respect them, listen to them, what they say should be heard. If you listen to what they say, you will be surprised. They have an amazing brain, amazing understanding, that even we can’t manage they can manage. My, my granddaughter, grandson, they are all realised, so they have that much understanding that my saree was put in the ground by our maid, then she went and bit the maid. The maid said, ‘Mad, why did you bite me?’ My granddaughter replied, ‘Whose saree is this, do you know? You are putting it on the floor, tomorrow I will put you on the floor.’ The maid got a fright, she said ‘Ok I will take care of your saree.’ So what they are, so their behaviour, their fondness, or what they are showing in their lives, we should be seeing it, we should appreciate it. And we should see what these children are talking, in that we will not lose our greatness (‘मोठेपणं’). For us our mother and father are great, and even more are the grandfather and grandmother. Maybe one time even the grandfather and grandmother will agree but not the mother and father. So this is what, here we have to reduce the discipline (‘शिष्ठा’) on them. There is no need for that. But from that they are realised people. They are born realised and many of them now are getting their realisation. Then we should see their behaviour, we should see their thoughts, we should talk to them, even if we talk to such children you will feel tremendous joy, they tell so much entertaining stories. and if you give them a slap, and ask them to shut up, you should not do such things. But the thing that came to my mind is that these children who go to the school in foreign countries, there the teachers are not even allowed to keep a stick. If the teacher says anything, she will be legally sent to jail. But what has come from that freedom is this. If they are born realised then should we not be respecting them. You became Sahaja Yogis afterwards, they are born seers (‘सिद्ध पुरुष’). You have to keep their respect and in that respect you should not make fun of them, but you should really give them respect. Means, I know very well that they will stand up to these children. But even if there are fully enlightened and realised children, if you handle them (‘हाथाध्ययचा’) this way, by this the children will become useless. You should keep their respect, you should understand them. They should be educated about Sahaja Yoga completely from the heart. If this comes within us, even our children will not be less than anyone and our country will prosper in every way. Means what we call as spirituality that spirituality is there in abundance in our country but in that, which people feel about spirituality is that everyone should go and chant ‘Hari Hari’, become inactive (‘निष्क्रिय’), don’t do any work, become useless, it is not like that. After all the power is transmitted, you will become people with quality. The result of that power will happen and you will become attached (‘सॊलग्न’) to it, this happens directly. But I feel special about your children because I can see the future of this country, these dutiful (‘कर्तबगार’) children got birth through your womb, they are quite great people. They are great saints and sages. They have taken birth from you because you are realised people. But even if you don’t understand that, then such great sages and saints will be wasted (‘वाया जाणार’). Hence beating children, giving them punishment, shouting at them, getting angry at them, should be completely stopped by Sahaja Yogis. Till date I have not mentioned this, but today I only though about it that I should explain this to all of you. And the powers that they have within you should further awaken it. Not only this, by awakening it for such children, they should be made to sit in such a place where there complete progress will take place. The complete lines of their lives will change and they will understand that they are something special. What will happen due to this is that the enlightenment becomes coral (‘बोध मुणगे होतात’). They should not become people whose character is killed because these children are born for this (Sahaja Yoga) only. In what all work they will prosper cannot be said. They will correct the entire state of our country. This is a big blessing of Sahaja Yoga for our country. This is happening at your door, at your homes, where such great sages and saints have taken birth. You have heard so much description of those sages and saints, they are in reality present in front of you, how are you not able to recognise them? You should recognise them and after you have recognised them if you keep their prestige completely, then those children will take you to great heights. You will be surprised that India’s good luck is in this. In Sahaja Yoga many things are taken care, your illness is cured, your obstacles are cured, you get good children, those who could not conceive, get children. But what after that? We have to remember our country always that we have for this country given birth to these children, not for us. And to get this executed (‘कार्यान्वित’) whatever qualities they need to have should be completely blossomed (‘प्रस्फुटित’). We should keep this thought in our mind. These children will never do anything which is wrong because they are saints and sages. But scope should be given (‘वाव दिला पाहिजे’) to them, this is what I feel myself. Today everyone asked me to speak on culture, let your great heavy culture be. But culture has to have some meaning. Children should be completely obedient (‘आज्ञाधारक’). They should not move from here to there at all, to do all this the mother and father need to also be very wise. Let these children behave the way they want. Appreciate them, understand them, you will come to know that these children have abundant qualities, you do not have to tell them anything. One or two of them may go astray, I don’t say that will not happen, but mostly they won’t. Then I am saying that, I can’t see it, shouting at children and other things, I can’t see it and I don’t like it. I don’t do it at all, I have never done it. Make them understand, if there is something explain it to them, the children will understand. If someone has done something wrong, you should make them understand. But just to show off that we have control (‘ऊतपथ’) over the children, we shouldn’t do that. When the empire of these children will come then we will know how much great this country is. So there is nothing wrong in giving them complete scope (‘वाव’). Today I thought what will happen if I go on talking about culture, what is in the scripture remains in the scripture (‘पुराणांतील वांगीं पुराणांत’) (means it is not put to practice). But to get the true interest (‘रुच्याला’), we should understand what is required to our lives. So much restricted, so much force, then you say that they don’t listen, to listen to you who are you? Are you a sage or a saint? Tis is so wrong, I am telling you this is wrong because by law there is not restrictions on us. These foreigners have (restriction by law), they can’t do anything. If they touch the children they go to the past (‘गेले गेरे मध्ये’). According to them, in their empire, children are the property of the country, they are the wealth (of the country), not yours. You have to recognise the children, if they are born realised, of they have those qualities, instead of encouraging (‘जिगुनित’) it if you try to suppress it, they will run away from you. If they don’t run away, they will do wrong things and even if that doesn’t happen, they will be wasted. You have got lotuses in your hand and if you drain it (‘गुस्कारून टाकावी’), then what to say. Now it is the New Year. In the New Year you should decide that we will not put any kind of restrictions on our children. 19.18 secs (Youtube) [Transcript of Talk in English] Today is a New Year day. So I am telling them they have to decide now Indians that these children are born realised you should not put any sort of pressure on them. Of your culture, I don’t add. The culture of love is the culture of Sahaja Yoga. Of course Indian culture is very deep rooted, very beautiful, everything but the, I think the, to the thieves of this great culture, you have to give that some nourishment, some water of love. Unless and until you use that they will not grow. So that is how we can take and give something nice from each other. I will be very happy to see that all those children who are born realised grow to be the saints of this country and the same with the western people. They should also respect their children, love, give all the freedom that is needed for their growth instead of cutting all the time. If you go on cutting the trees, they will never grow and they are on the natural grounds of Sahaja Yoga. So this culture, Indian culture which is very great, I must say, but there is one thing that is missing in it is the water of love. Even the Gurus you see, oh my God (‘baap re baap’), I have heard about them that the way these used to treat their disciples, I said let these Gurus go to right, who cares. And those who would not trouble will be satisfied if you give them some money. With money they are satisfied, but they would not hit you, they wouldn’t do anything. There are only two types of Gurus. One who would take money, exploit; the others who would cheat them just like, I don’t know what. Sahaja Yoga is in the centre. It is in the centre. It is the one that keeps everybody flowered properly and to understand the value of their family, value of their freedom. If that happens, you should also respect that for younger generation which is coming up. May God Bless you. 22.49 secs (Youtube) [Hindi to English translation] Now there is no need to talk in Hindi because you all are Englishmen and know English. And the second things is that for the Maharashtrians I have surely, because I have lost the habit of speaking in Marathi, so I thought that I should speak a little in Marathi. Hindi speaking people, they all know English language, it is not needed to explain to them. The thing that I have told, needs to be understood properly that when we forcibly groom our children, we don’t consider that as persecution. If all these children have come to your homes as sages and saints then you should be respecting them, taking care of them, you should be loving them which will give them growth. You should give them freedom. They can’t do anything wrong as they are saints and sages. But the way you look at them is different. You at all times your, in Marathi is called monarchy (‘मंकतशाही’), this is a new word that I have learnt now or else (you can call it) Hitler-shai, you can add all the shai’s. In this thing, I think there will not be anyone who is more than me in this matter. I don’t like it at all if anything is told to children, I don’t like it. If there is an issue, then make them understand. Now these children have to flourish (‘पनपणा’), tomorrow they are the citizens of this country and these children will only enchant (‘करामात’) you. These people’s children were also given the freedom, then with that freedom I am seeing today that how much extrovert (‘बहीया’) they have become. Some have also become waste. You have the support of the culture, now on that support you should take care of the children. You can explain to them what our state is. So many things can be completed in a straight, simple manner. About our country, about the great people of our country, no one knows anything. No one knows at all that with how much sacrifice we have received our freedom. We should tell this to these children. In the house we should keep the photos of great people, great leaders. What all struggles happened, that we need explain to them. In the schools this should be explained, a similar environment should be there. Now we can see that the children know all the cinema actors and actresses but our people who had sacrificed so much, they tried so much and gave the freedom to our country, they don’t know anything about these people. This is a very big opposition here in our place. So instead of shouting at the children on wasteful matters, make them understand and explain to them that the country in which they are born, you are its heritage (‘धरोहर’). What all has been done for you, so much sacrifices have been done, in that way. Then the patriotism towards the country will build within them and the citizens here of tomorrow will be patriots. They are Sahaja Yogis, it is easier for them to be brought into patriotism, it is very easy. My blessings to all of you.

New Year's eve Puja (English part). Kalve (India), 31 December 1998. Firstly I will speak in English language as we have many Sahaja Yogis from abroad. They have asked me to talk about Indian culture today because Bombay is the place where Indian culture is disappearing, that's what they say. But I don't think so, because the roots are so deep that we cannot give up that culture so fast. Now as it is for the people who are coming from other countries, they have to realize that this country had no religion as such, because there was not one book, they didn't follow one person, they didn't have any organizations as we have for other religions, we never had a higher priesthood or all those appointed people, it was all done very spontaneously. The whole thing worked out very spontaneously. But behind all that was, as I told you before, the attitude of Indians or our style was, not to challenge or to question what these great saints have given us. Because we accepted their status as saints, as higher personalities in a way - in a sense they were higher than us. So we didn't want to challenge them, and whatever they said we accepted. As a result that became sort of, you can call it, a way of conduct or way of life. But as a religion we had nothing, except that later on the caste system developed. Before that there was no caste system because non-Brahmins wrote about Shri Rama or wrote about Shri Krishna. It's very surprising how we accepted all that, never challenged whether it was written by a Brahmin or not. Brahmin was that who knew about Brahma principle, the principle of all-pervading Divine Love. Everybody was not a Brahmin, but later on they made it like this, whosoever is born in a Brahmin family was a Brahmin, whosoever was born in another caste belonged to that. But because of the father's heritance, you can say inherited, they also had the profession that they were following. So according to the professions, the religions, or you can say the castes were established; no religion, but caste. And that is how we had different, different caste systems in India according to the professions. It is very interesting. Recently, I discovered there is a caste called Ghadani, among Marathas, which you may not be knowing. They only believe in the art. They do music, or they have paintings, they make statues, they make temples; that's a caste, that's a profession. And they marry among themselves because it is easier to marry in the same profession and to have the same ideas and styles about life and the profession especially. Now later on, apart from being a profession, it started becoming a very consolidated nonsense. And then they used, I mean I think, it is the British who used it very much to separate us from one to another. Now the schedule caste and all that was not also like a religious thing. We have got saints like Chokha Mela and all that, who were also greatly respected and regarded. Also Ekanath, Namdev, they all tried to be one with all the castes, and especially the schedule caste. So this saintliness was regarded as a another caste you can say, which did not believe in any caste whatsoever. They had no caste, they were a caste-less people without any religion, without any caste. So the ultimate aim of every caste was to get to Self Realization. So they enter into the clan, you can call it, into the system of saints. And all the saints, whether Muslims, or Hindus or Jains or anything, they all were put together as saints, as you can say they were Sufis. Sufis from the Muslim heritage they came. Then we had also among Jains, Tirthankaras and all that. The main point was that they were the people who believed in the ethical life, ethics, believed in the higher life, spiritual life and lived like that. Now as you are all Sahaja Yogis, you have lost your religion, lost your caste, you have lost your heritage. You are Sahaja Yogis. Yogis, means you are the people who are believing into the ethical side of life. In this country all this was used and was exploited also, for politics, for all kinds of segregation of people. And that has really gone into such rigid ideas about every one, every caste, that first thing they used to ask, not now, before, 'What is your caste?' Now that's over, they don't ask, at least thank God, that much sense is there, that they don't ask for the caste, but they used to ask religion and caste formerly when we were entering into any examination or any kind of competition. Now gradually it's vanishing, but the politicians wants to use caste as a method of working out the opposition and the majority part of it. This democracy I don't think is very helpful to us because in democracy anybody can start an organization, can say that, "We belong to this caste and that caste." And when the constitution was made also in this country, it's very surprising, Ambedkar was one of them who wanted that there should be a privilege for the schedule caste for forty years. My father was there. He said, 'No, you can have only two types, ones who have and those who don't have.' And that kind of thing if you have: those who have and don't have, it would make such a difference. Then in other countries they have the same type, so that the needs of the people who haven't got the minimum necessities for a good life will be helped instead of creating a caste. Now there's one fellow called Mandal who created a great problem in our country. He as a student had a car of his own, used to live very lavishly, and he was fighting for some people who were supposed to be downtrodden. And so many bad things have been done because of his report that he gave. Now if he had made that kind of a proper, sensible, ethical division in this country, things would have been much better. But now because of this problem of creating artificial caste, this country is suffering a lot and the castes of the gurus, the castes, we can say, of the Sufis, other castes of the saints is very much polluted and we had many people in our country who started becoming gurus and this and that. But the main thing is the ethics, which was the culture of this country, was the ethics of dharma. Without that they thought human beings were worse than animals. Ethics was very important to every caste, to every person. Even when I was young we had the same thing. But now it has become such a mixture and such a problem, that unless and until Sahaja Yoga really spreads in a real way I don't think we can improve the condition of this country. Now the essence of it is that once your attention is only towards ethics and Aadhyatama (MEANS spirituality -ed), then you start discovering all the inner deeper meanings of your life. You work it out in a different way. In a very different way you work it out. If it is material gain, then one can become like America. If it is some sort of a very low level hankerings, then also you cannot be an Indian. The principles of Indian life were embedded in spirituality, in morality. An immoral person was regarded as a very low level person. Such a person could not get married, he had no place in the society, he had no place even in the homes, their own homes. That such a restriction on people, just to see that the society is kept clean, and such a person was thrown out of the society. Anybody who even drank wine or anything, was regarded as a person who is not dharmic, he is adharmic. Can you believe it? Drinking was regarded as adharmic. I think very few people must have seen drunkards, only on the streets. When I went to Russia they asked Me, "What do you say for 'cheers'?" The Russians say 'cheerio', they don't say 'cheers'. I said, "What? Cheers for what?" For drinking. When you are on the table, what do you say? I said, "We never drink on the dinner table, that's not done in India. At least, I don't know if somebody does it, but it is a very, very western style of life that openly you sit down at the dinner table before your children and start drinking, and say 'cheers'. Cheers for what? For becoming unconscious? For becoming stupid? For getting into troubles? But it became like a practice there. Whether somebody dies in the family, they will drink, can you imagine! If somebody is born in the family they will drink. So this culture, the whole culture was so bad, even among the worst in this country they wouldn't do that. Secretly some people used to drink, and they would go on the street. Then the Islamic influence came. And surprisingly when it is prohibited, absolutely prohibited, in the Islam, to drink, they all started drinking as a reaction, but only those Nawabs and all that. And because of them, because they were in authority, others also took to drink. But still, it is not yet a custom to drink, to celebrate something. I mean supposing, even in the church they give drinks and they make also some sort of a Benedictine, in the church organization. Imagine! This is such a perversion of religion. In India also, in the temples and all that they started all kinds of nonsensical things, no doubt. But Indian philosophy is such that it gives you complete freedom and you can do what you like. But not in the name of religion, you can't do it, not in the name of God, not in the temple. And if they do it, people will throw them away, they bring a court case, do this do that and, I mean, just remove it completely. So it is kept pure. We had a horrible incidence of horrible things people were doing, adharmic, but all that had to be cancelled completely. Why? Because the people wouldn't have it. People wouldn't like it. I was told that at Ganapatipule they are secretly offering some sort of a beer. But if the government comes to know about it, it will be banned. I mean, whatever is pure must be kept pure. Christ, also, He took one hunter in his hand and started hitting people who were selling things in the temple. So the purity of that church or the purity of that religious place have to be kept. So the first thing I think was purity. Here now I have seen, the other day, there was a boy, was for marriage, and it's very surprising, they were all very well off, very rich, everything was there. But they found out that he had a girlfriend before. And the brother of the girlfriend tried to stab him. Finished. Now for him to get married is an impossibility in this country. He might get somebody from abroad, I don't know what they will do. But if he had a girlfriend like that, openly, he is finished. So the restrictions came from the society, a society which was built up on ethics. And all these ethical values are penetrating up to the lowest level, up to everywhere. But unfortunately, unfortunately now the other cultures are coming and people think we are rather rigid, very rigid people. We should really relax a little bit and take to other things. But I have to tell you that if you go out of the line of ethics, in any direction, the only saving is Sahaja Yoga to come back to normalcy, there is no other way out. And once you come to Sahaja Yoga you cannot deviate from the path of dharma. If you try to do that you go out of Sahaja Yoga. It is as simple as that. It is not that, 'All right, doesn't matter, Mother should forgive.' and these things. I forgive, all right, I forgive, because you have got some still human weaknesses left in you, I forgive. But in Sahaja Yoga you cannot. Sahaja Yoga has to maintain its purity. If you allow all such people to enter into Sahaja Yoga, then there will be no purity of Sahaja Yoga and then everybody will start doing this or that just to say that, 'After all, you see, we are also Sahaja Yogis, they are also Sahaja Yogis, if they have done it, why not we?' What is very surprising to Me is the western people who have taken to Sahaja Yoga are scrupulously following Sahaja Yoga. Scrupulously. I am not such a strict Guru, as you know. But they understand one thing, that this is for our betterment, this is for our growth, this is a very, very important part of our lives, that is ethics. That has to be there. And once they understand it, I tell you, I am surprised how these western people who have seen their parents drinking, and also other people doing all kinds of things, even their friends and all that, they just give up, completely. I am very proud of them. For us Indians, it is natural, because we are brought up that way. All the time we have seen people being corrected and, I mean of course drinking and all that was of course not out of question but even if somebody looks at a girl, you know, the father would say, 'I will pierce through your eyes!' And that's why the eyes remain steady, and I don't know how but we don't do all that. Normally. I mean if somebody has been abroad and all that and thinks that they are very free people and why not we can do, that's a very different thing. But normally we don't, we don't believe in that. Of course in India we do have some elite societies, so called; they are the people who believe in all kinds of elite behavior. I don't know what is that supposed to be. Maybe some of them have started some nonsense, especially in Bombay. Now it is spreading out also to Poona. And in Poona there are girls who are behaving funnily. I mean I can't believe it. They drink, they smoke, they would become call-girls. All this has happened because they don't know what is their idea about life. Or maybe it's an actress or something they follow, but what is the life of that actress? Unethical behavior, when you compromise with your value system, ultimately, where do you end? It's showing results. We have AIDS, we have so many diseases coming from this kind of irrelevant, unethical life. It is happening everywhere to suggest that we should take to very normal life, to very good family life of obedience and understanding. But because you are very free in the West it is difficult for you to accept, but once they come to Sahaja Yoga I am really surprised, I am really surprised, how they have accepted Sahaja Yoga so beautifully. They had the freedom, complete freedom to do what they liked. In India we don't have such freedom for children. They can go wherever they like, they can do whatever they like, the teacher cannot correct them. Because of that freedom that they had, there's one thing good that has happened. So many are lost, all right, but those who are saved are rare people. Because of that growth of freedom within them I think they learn our Indian music in five months, four months. No Indians can do it because they are restricted all the time, they are controlled all the time, they are kept on the path of religion. So ultimately the freedom that some of you had and enjoyed has given you a special personality. That you pick up very difficult things without any effort. Now whether you should have that freedom or not is your own lookout. But too much restrictions on children, I think, is not a good thing. Now in music, I know, Ravi Shankar when he was young, his guru had broken a tanpura on his head because he put a wrong note. Can you imagine? They used to beat them, tie them upside down, put them in the well, I mean all kinds of things they did and the disciples listened to all that discipline. Can you imagine? But I think that curbed their capacity to absorb something difficult. This is one of the reasons why I see this has happened, that people have picked up this difficult music in four months, three months, it's a miracle we think. Why not this happens with Indians? You put them to anything, they pick it up so fast. With Sahaja Yoga, born with Sahaja Yoga, those who are, should be given full freedom I think. Such children should be given full freedom for they will not do anything wrong. And you will see they will pick up things very fast. Not that westerners are more intelligent or alert, but the way they are given freedom, their growth, their personality. Sometimes they are like a vagabond, I think. Sometimes just like a tomboy. Sometimes to me they look like very vulgar, but once with that wealth of freedom they come to reality, they shine. So I would request also Indians, not to suppress their children too much. We enjoy the children very much in India, no doubt, but we suppress also them, very much. 'Why are you standing? Why don't you sit down?' And children don't mind because it is accepted, this pattern is accepted in India. So too much restriction on children also curbs their personality, this is what I have discovered. But the western people go through such hell first of all, develop such problems to begin with and ultimately what happens is this, that they can be discarded as bad, bad, bad people. But if they come as good, good, good they are marvelous. All the freedom they have enjoyed before is showing results, otherwise how can this miracle happen to western people. There is no justification. Now the problem is to give freedom or not. We have a proper sense now, after Realization, that a child is a born realized. In the beginning he won't understand, he won't understand. But gradually such a child will show results, maximum capacity to absorb and to express. So today I am telling you about this freedom, which is the freedom of the Spirit. We should have understanding of such children who have that spirituality in them. They have dharma in them. And we should not try to constrict them or to trouble them. Let them do what they like. They'll never do anything wrong because they are born realized. So I am talking about the future Indians. Some of them I have seen, eight year old children, six year old children, they are geniuses, I tell you. They sing as if we feel that these old musicians are reborn or what. It is very surprising how they show their talent. There was a programme I saw on the television of children below eight years and a three year old girl singing just like Hirabai Badodekar. I was amazed. They are born realized but also they have the talents from their past life. They have got it from the past life. So we should not try to control and check our children too much, that's a part of our Sahaja culture. It doesn't fit into Indian culture, I must say, but it should fit into Sahaja culture, to understand the value of our children who are realized souls. I enjoy their company, they speak so sweetly of all the things, of all the persons, and they describe about everyone so sweetly. Just allow them the freedom to talk and they'll tell you all kinds of things. Now I have praised you a lot I think. The outsiders we can call them, non-Indians, and it is a fact, the way they have taken to Sahaja Yoga is remarkable. But the way they are taking to this Indian music and to Indian art I can't believe it, really I can't believe it. I can't understand it. So you have freedom, but now use this freedom for expression of whatever you have achieved in Sahaja Yoga. Because you are already grown up with your freedom and if you do not utilize that personality full of freedom in expressing Sahaja Yoga in your own languages, you won't help your people. You have to help them because your percentage is very low, your quality is high. But in your own country your percentage is low. So you have to go all out to get them into Sahaja Yoga and to let them know what they can achieve and what they are. You are duty bound, I think. Transcript of 1998-12-31 New Year Puja Talk, Kalwe, India (Hindi/Marathi) video [Marathi to English translation] Here, small children have too much of freedom, too much because as per the law they can’t do anything to the children. If a teacher shouts at a child, then they can remove the teacher from the job. This kind of freedom they have there. And the children are in vain (‘वाहियात’) there, I agree to this. They behave the way they want, they do what they want. And there is no one to stop them, no one to tell them. One day I was going by a train, I was in the first class and there were around 25-30 children who came in my compartment. And in their hands they carried knives (‘सुऱ्या’) and blades. I thought are they going to kill me. They said, ‘we are not going to do anything to you as you are sitting quietly.’ I asked, ‘what do you do?’ They said that ‘we tear the cushions (in the train) and see what is there in it.’ I said, ‘there will be only cotton in it, what else.’ They said, ‘no-no, you let it be. We want to see.’ They started tearing all of it, cutting it. I don’t understand what type of children they are. At the train station, I was a scared, I called the station master. Then when he came, (we came to know) that these children were going to very good schools and there were some 3-4 under age children in the group who were beat (by the station master) black and blue. When they were asked, why you did this, they said that, ‘we were seeing what is there in the chairs?’ I did not like them beating (the children), why to beat? Now what happened has happened. They said ‘Don’t talk (to us) like this.’ I said, am talking the right thing. The children were beaten and they were all crying. They were all small-small kids, their age may have been around 7-8 years. And these 4-5 people came and started beating. Then they asked, ‘in your India, do children behave this way?’ I said ‘they will never behave this way, no chance.’ Children going to good schools will never do anything like this. They will be silent. Even when someone comes homes, they will be told to sit silently and not talk. If they go to anybody’s house they should not ask anything. So the children, if they are given anything, they will look up in a way asking, whether to take it or not? The question they have is if we take it, will we get beating back home or what? The mother or the father will say yes, then only they will take it. And when the children are turned around, then it feels nice, you feel good when you behave well with the children. But then we are too much (‘जबरदस्त’) knocking down. We always go on dictating children, sit here, sit there, have you done this, have you done in the morning, I think we are too much throaty (‘गलचिपळी’) of them is what I feel. Because now when I see their children (referring to the foreigners) when they first came to our school, the school is in the jungles, again the school is at height (above the sea level), where they will fall, will slip (‘धरपडतील’), or what they will do, is what we are worried. Slowly-slowly they understood, it came in their mind, now such small children, what houses they build, what paintings they do, our children can never do it. Means the competence (‘कर्तृत्व पणा’) that they have in them I think is killed within us. The competence should not be killed, we should get the righteousness, we should get the innocence. Not only that, but there should be respect for elders within them. But respect achieved by beating is of what use? Now these people (referring to the foreigners), they are not kids, all are big, when they came to our academy, within three months – four months, they were able to play the ‘malkauns’ raag. I said to myself, ‘Oh my God’. For our people to play the ‘malkauns’ raag our people have austerity (‘तपस्या’) for ten-ten years and still no one achieves the state of a Guru even by force. They open up by that force (‘झोरपडण्यातनं’) somehow to become a big musician, their only health is good. In that after in numerous beatings, the disciples are ready. This Ravi Shankar (famous Indian music composer) has taken so much beatings from his Guru. Not only him, I have heard about others as well, they have got a hammering and in the end what after constant abrade (‘रगडल्यावर’) for 10 years, 12 years, 14 years, they learn music. But how did these people (Shri Mataji is referring to the foreigners) learn it in 3 to 4 months? These people don’t know anything about us, our music, culture. And how did these people learn, they have learnt the tune (‘रागकारी’), they learnt everything (about music). Then a thought came to my head that we have (pamper) our kids a lot, they have become very gentle like feather (‘पंखकपृष्ट’). Kids are not treated with love, always why are you behaving like this, why you are sitting here, sitting there, like this, like that, it goes on. I have never done this to my children. But I can see others doing this. And giving children every now and then (‘उठल्या सुटल्या’) something else by which their self-esteem diminishes. Things like this is too much in our place, due to this the children will learn, will read a lot, but they will not learn the art or the creativity in it. Appearance of Shrikala (‘श्रीकला चा प्रादुर्भाव’) is less, but more stress should be on establishing the righteousness. If it comes in a free mind then it is special. What is the point of chanting ‘Ram Ram’ forcefully? It should come in a free mind. But after coming to Sahaja yoga, you should understand this much that your kids who are born realised, those who are realised by birth itself, then you should keep their respect. Sages, saints are coming to your house. You should respect them, listen to them, what they say should be heard. If you listen to what they say, you will be surprised. They have an amazing brain, amazing understanding, that even we can’t manage they can manage. My, my granddaughter, grandson, they are all realised, so they have that much understanding that my saree was put in the ground by our maid, then she went and bit the maid. The maid said, ‘Mad, why did you bite me?’ My granddaughter replied, ‘Whose saree is this, do you know? You are putting it on the floor, tomorrow I will put you on the floor.’ The maid got a fright, she said ‘Ok I will take care of your saree.’ So what they are, so their behaviour, their fondness, or what they are showing in their lives, we should be seeing it, we should appreciate it. And we should see what these children are talking, in that we will not lose our greatness (‘मोठेपणं’). For us our mother and father are great, and even more are the grandfather and grandmother. Maybe one time even the grandfather and grandmother will agree but not the mother and father. So this is what, here we have to reduce the discipline (‘शिष्ठा’) on them. There is no need for that. But from that they are realised people. They are born realised and many of them now are getting their realisation. Then we should see their behaviour, we should see their thoughts, we should talk to them, even if we talk to such children you will feel tremendous joy, they tell so much entertaining stories. and if you give them a slap, and ask them to shut up, you should not do such things. But the thing that came to my mind is that these children who go to the school in foreign countries, there the teachers are not even allowed to keep a stick. If the teacher says anything, she will be legally sent to jail. But what has come from that freedom is this. If they are born realised then should we not be respecting them. You became Sahaja Yogis afterwards, they are born seers (‘सिद्ध पुरुष’). You have to keep their respect and in that respect you should not make fun of them, but you should really give them respect. Means, I know very well that they will stand up to these children. But even if there are fully enlightened and realised children, if you handle them (‘हाथाध्ययचा’) this way, by this the children will become useless. You should keep their respect, you should understand them. They should be educated about Sahaja Yoga completely from the heart. If this comes within us, even our children will not be less than anyone and our country will prosper in every way. Means what we call as spirituality that spirituality is there in abundance in our country but in that, which people feel about spirituality is that everyone should go and chant ‘Hari Hari’, become inactive (‘निष्क्रिय’), don’t do any work, become useless, it is not like that. After all the power is transmitted, you will become people with quality. The result of that power will happen and you will become attached (‘सॊलग्न’) to it, this happens directly. But I feel special about your children because I can see the future of this country, these dutiful (‘कर्तबगार’) children got birth through your womb, they are quite great people. They are great saints and sages. They have taken birth from you because you are realised people. But even if you don’t understand that, then such great sages and saints will be wasted (‘वाया जाणार’). Hence beating children, giving them punishment, shouting at them, getting angry at them, should be completely stopped by Sahaja Yogis. Till date I have not mentioned this, but today I only though about it that I should explain this to all of you. And the powers that they have within you should further awaken it. Not only this, by awakening it for such children, they should be made to sit in such a place where there complete progress will take place. The complete lines of their lives will change and they will understand that they are something special. What will happen due to this is that the enlightenment becomes coral (‘बोध मुणगे होतात’). They should not become people whose character is killed because these children are born for this (Sahaja Yoga) only. In what all work they will prosper cannot be said. They will correct the entire state of our country. This is a big blessing of Sahaja Yoga for our country. This is happening at your door, at your homes, where such great sages and saints have taken birth. You have heard so much description of those sages and saints, they are in reality present in front of you, how are you not able to recognise them? You should recognise them and after you have recognised them if you keep their prestige completely, then those children will take you to great heights. You will be surprised that India’s good luck is in this. In Sahaja Yoga many things are taken care, your illness is cured, your obstacles are cured, you get good children, those who could not conceive, get children. But what after that? We have to remember our country always that we have for this country given birth to these children, not for us. And to get this executed (‘कार्यान्वित’) whatever qualities they need to have should be completely blossomed (‘प्रस्फुटित’). We should keep this thought in our mind. These children will never do anything which is wrong because they are saints and sages. But scope should be given (‘वाव दिला पाहिजे’) to them, this is what I feel myself. Today everyone asked me to speak on culture, let your great heavy culture be. But culture has to have some meaning. Children should be completely obedient (‘आज्ञाधारक’). They should not move from here to there at all, to do all this the mother and father need to also be very wise. Let these children behave the way they want. Appreciate them, understand them, you will come to know that these children have abundant qualities, you do not have to tell them anything. One or two of them may go astray, I don’t say that will not happen, but mostly they won’t. Then I am saying that, I can’t see it, shouting at children and other things, I can’t see it and I don’t like it. I don’t do it at all, I have never done it. Make them understand, if there is something explain it to them, the children will understand. If someone has done something wrong, you should make them understand. But just to show off that we have control (‘ऊतपथ’) over the children, we shouldn’t do that. When the empire of these children will come then we will know how much great this country is. So there is nothing wrong in giving them complete scope (‘वाव’). Today I thought what will happen if I go on talking about culture, what is in the scripture remains in the scripture (‘पुराणांतील वांगीं पुराणांत’) (means it is not put to practice). But to get the true interest (‘रुच्याला’), we should understand what is required to our lives. So much restricted, so much force, then you say that they don’t listen, to listen to you who are you? Are you a sage or a saint? Tis is so wrong, I am telling you this is wrong because by law there is not restrictions on us. These foreigners have (restriction by law), they can’t do anything. If they touch the children they go to the past (‘गेले गेरे मध्ये’). According to them, in their empire, children are the property of the country, they are the wealth (of the country), not yours. You have to recognise the children, if they are born realised, of they have those qualities, instead of encouraging (‘जिगुनित’) it if you try to suppress it, they will run away from you. If they don’t run away, they will do wrong things and even if that doesn’t happen, they will be wasted. You have got lotuses in your hand and if you drain it (‘गुस्कारून टाकावी’), then what to say. Now it is the New Year. In the New Year you should decide that we will not put any kind of restrictions on our children. 19.18 secs (Youtube) [Transcript of Talk in English] Today is a New Year day. So I am telling them they have to decide now Indians that these children are born realised you should not put any sort of pressure on them. Of your culture, I don’t add. The culture of love is the culture of Sahaja Yoga. Of course Indian culture is very deep rooted, very beautiful, everything but the, I think the, to the thieves of this great culture, you have to give that some nourishment, some water of love. Unless and until you use that they will not grow. So that is how we can take and give something nice from each other. I will be very happy to see that all those children who are born realised grow to be the saints of this country and the same with the western people. They should also respect their children, love, give all the freedom that is needed for their growth instead of cutting all the time. If you go on cutting the trees, they will never grow and they are on the natural grounds of Sahaja Yoga. So this culture, Indian culture which is very great, I must say, but there is one thing that is missing in it is the water of love. Even the Gurus you see, oh my God (‘baap re baap’), I have heard about them that the way these used to treat their disciples, I said let these Gurus go to right, who cares. And those who would not trouble will be satisfied if you give them some money. With money they are satisfied, but they would not hit you, they wouldn’t do anything. There are only two types of Gurus. One who would take money, exploit; the others who would cheat them just like, I don’t know what. Sahaja Yoga is in the centre. It is in the centre. It is the one that keeps everybody flowered properly and to understand the value of their family, value of their freedom. If that happens, you should also respect that for younger generation which is coming up. May God Bless you. 22.49 secs (Youtube) [Hindi to English translation] Now there is no need to talk in Hindi because you all are Englishmen and know English. And the second things is that for the Maharashtrians I have surely, because I have lost the habit of speaking in Marathi, so I thought that I should speak a little in Marathi. Hindi speaking people, they all know English language, it is not needed to explain to them. The thing that I have told, needs to be understood properly that when we forcibly groom our children, we don’t consider that as persecution. If all these children have come to your homes as sages and saints then you should be respecting them, taking care of them, you should be loving them which will give them growth. You should give them freedom. They can’t do anything wrong as they are saints and sages. But the way you look at them is different. You at all times your, in Marathi is called monarchy (‘मंकतशाही’), this is a new word that I have learnt now or else (you can call it) Hitler-shai, you can add all the shai’s. In this thing, I think there will not be anyone who is more than me in this matter. I don’t like it at all if anything is told to children, I don’t like it. If there is an issue, then make them understand. Now these children have to flourish (‘पनपणा’), tomorrow they are the citizens of this country and these children will only enchant (‘करामात’) you. These people’s children were also given the freedom, then with that freedom I am seeing today that how much extrovert (‘बहीया’) they have become. Some have also become waste. You have the support of the culture, now on that support you should take care of the children. You can explain to them what our state is. So many things can be completed in a straight, simple manner. About our country, about the great people of our country, no one knows anything. No one knows at all that with how much sacrifice we have received our freedom. We should tell this to these children. In the house we should keep the photos of great people, great leaders. What all struggles happened, that we need explain to them. In the schools this should be explained, a similar environment should be there. Now we can see that the children know all the cinema actors and actresses but our people who had sacrificed so much, they tried so much and gave the freedom to our country, they don’t know anything about these people. This is a very big opposition here in our place. So instead of shouting at the children on wasteful matters, make them understand and explain to them that the country in which they are born, you are its heritage (‘धरोहर’). What all has been done for you, so much sacrifices have been done, in that way. Then the patriotism towards the country will build within them and the citizens here of tomorrow will be patriots. They are Sahaja Yogis, it is easier for them to be brought into patriotism, it is very easy. My blessings to all of you.

2/14/1999

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1999-02-14 Mahashivaratri Puja Talk Hindi English, New Delhi, India, First, I ‘ll speak, in Hindi language and then in English language. [English translation from Hindi] Today we, have assembled here to worship Shri Maha Deva, Shri Shiva Shankar. In the name of Shankar ji, many organizations have come up in this world. Because of Adi Shankaracharya’s emphasis, worshipping Shiv Ji is being done , by people in a big way. And in Southern India two types of sects have come up: one which is called as Shaivites, and the other are calles as Vaishnavites. Now Shaivites are the worshippers of Lord Shiva and the Vaishnavites, who worship Lord Vishnu. In our country we are expert in dividing ourselves. We divide Deities as well; and when we try to reunite them, then things take a very bad Shape. For example, a new matter has come up, by name Ayyappa. It is a very wrong thing. And in that it is shown that, when Lord Vishnu assumed the form of `Mohini’ then she got a child from Lord Shiva. Is it possible by any chance? Such nonsensical beliefs are generally spread in our country, And then different groups are formed on those beliefs. When Indians find some or other reason to fight, they become very happy. If they have nothing to fight over, then, they create something from their own imaginations. So these two things are connected with each other as, Sun is with sun light, word with its meaning, Moon with Moon light. Meaning that the `Sopan Marga’ which has been created, which we, call as sushumna nadi, which is centralpath, is the path of Lord Vishnu. And through this path we attain the Shiva Tattva. So Shiva Tattva is the destination to Shiva, and the path is made by Lord Vishnu. To create this path Vishnuji, and Adishakti have taken efforts. Lord Shiva has no role in it: He sits comfortably in his Seat, not bothering about anyone who comes or does'nt come. So, to attain this Shiv Tattva, we should go through this Vishnu Path (Sushumna Path) And for that, the several chakras (centres) that are present, have to be corrected first. When the centers are cleansed, our Vishnu path opens up. And along with that, we gradually start ascending. I have told about all these centers, many a times. But, there is a center in Heart also, which we call `Left Heart’. This is not the chakra of the heart, It is just that, the heart, which, reflects the reflection of Mahadeva. The abode of Shiva is above everything, Beyond the mind, beyond the thoughts. To attain this kind of tatva (principle), first and foremost we should pay attention, to see how pure our heart is. Inside our heart, we give place to many evil thoughts. For example, we feel jeolous of someone. feeling jeolous, in the sense, if sombody has been evil to you, might have harmed you also, troubled you, But there is no use becoming jeolous of them. If your heart is pure then the mirror in which, The God almighty's reflection is going to fall, will be very clear. But if you are full of jealousy, then the mirror will not remain clean and the reflection of will also not be perfect. To have enmity towards anyone, And towards anyone to have in the heart, any kind of miserable thoughts or ill feeling, is very wrong that is why, Christ has said that forgive everyone. To forgive is extremely important and, before and after Christ, many saints have said the same thing that forgive everybody. The moment you forgive, immediately Lord Shiva, takes the situation in his hands. The Subtlest power of all, is that of shri mahadev. And He, then completely punishes him, totally punishes him. This is the work of Lord Mahadev, not yours. Therefore to be jealous of any one is very bad. But I find that there is lot of jealousy even in Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja Yogis are jealous of one another. If one person is made trustee, the other one is not, then he is jeolous. This trusteeship etc. have no meaning, you all know it is a myth. It is all your mother's drama and spread a web of maya. Even then it disturbs the mind of the people; one person,s mind gets disturbed and the other feels bad about it! I do not understand what should I do! Such a big work is happening in so many countries, So, I can communicate with any one person only, right? However, things are getting sorted out slowly, but still, you will be surprised that even now there is lot of discussion about who is the leader and who is what? Second thing is, for us, for Indians, a blessing is the jealousy is in money matters. Even in Sahaja Yoga there is jealousy on money matters. Someone has got more money and some less. While doing Sahaja work also people see how much money one gets, and who gives how much money? if a person's heart gets obsessed with money He becomes useless for SahajaYoga. Because his heart is covered with materialism. If any kind of, any kind of materialism has enveloped your heart, then it is very difficult for you to ascend. This is the speciality of our country only I have not seen it so much in foreign countries. But here it is prominent. I think, In Russia and Eastern Block countries there is very little of wealth but they are not much bothered at all. They don't think about money at all. But their heart is so pure-so very pure. And only with the pure heart, devotion (bhakti) is possible. We all, before doing prayers, wash our feet and take bath. But bathing our heart is possible if we could ask God, that from within us, whatever negativities are there, please remove them, and purify us, then it will be a better thing. The third thing is the negativity within us, which we call as six enemies (shad ripu), Shri Krishna has laid emphasis on krodha- anger is the worst thing. everything emanates from anger. A person shows anger initially, then he gets infatuated. then he thinks "why I said all that, I should not have said" this and that. But he goes out of self-control, when he gets angry. In the fit of anger he loses his control over himself. he goes out of self-control and blurts-out all the dirt, which are meaningless. the dirt he has been accumalating since long in his heart, comes out of his mouth. We have to beware of this krodha Why does this anger come? we should pay attention towards this, that why do we get angry? There are some who are angry with a particular person. there are some who are angry with the society, Like this, people show there anger in different ways. why does this anger come to us? Why do we get angry, we should think that. Many people have told me that, "mother, if someone speaks against you, we get very angry". I feel like laughing at this. If anybody talks against me, I really feel like laughing at them. Because there is no meaning. what is there to talk against me? I am just sharing my love, even then if they speak against me then what can be done?! But some people have crooked mind, we should only pity them. We have to think that such a person is a big fool. When a person is full of anger, then our attitude towards him, should be extremely compassionate. This attitude may pacify his anger. In our country people who show their anger are of different types, there are institutions for that. Who just with their anger spred, "hit this person, hit that person" "beat up this person, beat up that person" And this is also becoming an issue in the social level. This is a very dangerous situation. To beat and thrash people, and for that perpose to form an army or, prepare some weapons to beat and hurt people is very terrifying. However, for his protection, a person, is equipped with this weapons, it is not a big deal, But, if he is a devotee of the God almighty, he doent require these. This kind of a person is always protected. When within a person Shri Mahadev resides, Who can dare to touch such a person, who can destroy him? Whatever you do, however you trouble him, still that person can not be destroyed. But those who harass them, will get destroyed themselves. When the complete trust regarding this, will come within you that whoever is troubling you, will get destroyed Then you will keep your heart totally pure and clean.. This work can happen only in a clean heart. because the Shiva resides in our heart, as reflection. And the reflection falls better in a clean mirror. Shiv Ji's anger is a one time job, or rather people say that He gets angry only once. But I have seen him getting angry many a times, because it is His right. He has a right to be angry. If any one works against Adi Shakti, then Shiv Ji has very long hands. Without listening to anyone, He finishes such a person. Because he knows that Adi Shakti will not do anything herself. She is not going to punish anyone at all, and She will forgive rveryone. So, His hands are so long, that there is no limit to them and, when those hands start lashing, then nothing can stop them. Who is there to check Him? He has got his own protocols, which you can neither change nor go beyond. This is how you should understand that in your individual life In Sahaja Yoga you have to follow only Lord Shiva. Because, if you don't follow Him, firstly, You will get heart problems. The first thing will be heart desease. It works out in two ways. Firstly with excessive anger the heart catches, and secondly, after the anger if a person repents, then you get the disease of `Angina’. This is how both the things are useless. But, anger doesn't go just by words. This is something like taing alcohol. It becomes a habit to get angry. Without his knowledge, his face gets distorted and he goes in the state of delirium, and no one can control him. So, I thought that if you sit before the mirror and get angry on yourself, rebuke yourself with few angry words, and by sitting in front of the mirror you say, "there can not be a greater fool than me". Then perhaps you may get rid of your anger. I am saying, it might be possible because at times, these problems are so complicated, that it is very difficult to solve them. Further, it has been observed that, on anything more we try to focus our attention, and on that perticular thing we, what we call as, react to it. someone says something, we react instantly This, this custom is more in foreign countries. for example there is a carpet, immediately they will say, “I don’t like it, I like it.” Who are you to say all this? Now a days, it has become a fashion to say `I like it, I don’t like it’ , as if every person were a renowned master who says `I like it’, `I don’t like it’. This should not be said. Saying this is the indication of your bad Agnya. What do you think of yourself that you are saying "I like it, I don't like it". You do not have a right to like or dislike any of the things. Supposing, some poor man gives you with affection, some very beautiful flowers, and you will say "sir, I don't like this flowers". You are unable to understand the hidden emotions behind this act because Shiva Tattva is absent in you. Even if it is a very small thing, which has been given to you by a poor person, and you don't, recognise the feeling attached to the emotion, and how lovingly he has given you that. For that in India we have the example of Sudama, has been shown. That how He arrived with roasted rice to meet Shri Krishna. And how Shri Krishna honoured Him. Anything presented with the feelings of love is exactly like, a piece of glass, becomes a shining mirror when paras (touch stone) is applied to it similarly, if you have feelings of love for someone, a very beautiful and good feeling, but you have no money, then, even if you gift that person a very small thing, then the other person should think "aha! what an excellent thing is this" But, this feeling of love gives a subtle sight to the person. which can be called as artistic. artistic qualities emanates from it. When art is visible from it, you start thinking how artistic thing is this. This art is the art of love, this is the art of love. By this art you can clearly see that, how much of love is there in this person? How affectionate he is. How loving he is, what a gentleman is he, what a good person is he. When you start seeing this quality in others then you will look within yourself, and you will start thinking "What am I?” “Do I have that much of love?” “do I have this gentleman qualities"? "Do I have all this goodness within me, or am I rendering lip service only"? and thus misleading the people"? Actually, we are misleading ourselves and none other. When we are doing wrong things, living a wrong lifestyle, when in our lives are completely filled with wrong conceptions, then we can not make anyone happy. and definitely not ourselves also. So from the point of view of “swartha”, the word "Swa" is very beautiful,"to know thyself" (swa ka arth) "Swa" means spirit, you must know the meaning of it. To know the meaning, people worship Shiv Ji. But I have seen that the worshipers of Shiva are very hot tempered, very ill tempered , very miserly and what not. No deity is as generous Shiv JI, no one is as loving as ShivJi. This source of love which is flowing today all around, is emanating from His Holy feet. It is because of Him, this work is happening. that human beings are bathing in the ocean of love in Sahaja Yoga. In Sahaja Yoga after Self-realization, when you attain that state, then you, the state of say Jiva Atma, or your, attention, your attention gets engrossed in the lotus feet of Shiv Ji. And as soon as it gets engrossed in Shiv Ji's lotus feet, what happens is within you, whatever qualities aaaa of five elements are there, they also become very subtle. Already, I have told you about the four elements, but the fifth one, which is called ‘Ether’ in English, I didn’t tell about that, here it is called akash tatva. Akash tatva is that, when a seeker attains the subtle state, then he attains the Subtlety of Ether element. That akash which is etherial, that akash, need not be activated also. If a person has any problem or any trouble, then through this all pervading power, of akash tatva, which is omnipresent, Your attention immediately reaches, where it is required. It is an amazing thing, but it happens and happened also. people may call it miracle, but it is not so. In Sahaja Yoga if your Shiva tatva is awakened, then all the subtle qualities, the subtlest of the subtle quality, the emotions and the state within you gets awakened. Therefore it is necessary for us to, first of all purify our heart. Now, so far I have talked to you, about three enemies. Now, the fourth enemy present within us is madha. Madha means "Ego". When this ego effects women, they start walking like men. Then they cannot walk like women because of the pride. "I am something very special" kind of feeling. supposing a girl either comes from a very rich family, or she is very beautiful, or very well educated, what ever the reason be, if she gets effected by ego, then woman, starts walking like a man. And when a man is effected by ego, he starts walking like a woman. Meaning, such a man makes himself up, for hours sits before the mirror, combs his hair, does this and that does all kinds of feminine actions. To dress up is the job of the woman. while walking also he doesn't walk straight. He walks in a peculier fashion. From behind, if you see him, you will feel as if a lady is walking in a male dress, So, when, a man gets intoxicated with this , ego, (madha) then he is in his own world. And he starts swaying like an intoxicated elephant All their activities are different and prominent. Whether they talk, or they don't talk, or how they sit in every action it is apparent that, they have some kind of ego within them. It is difficult to understand the cause of their ego. what makes them think that they are special. All these things are insignificant. It has no meaning at all. In Sahaja they have no meaning at all. And so that is why (laughs) to believe in the kind of things, that "we are something special", then you just end up to be nothing. You do not remain to be special, you are nothing. It means, its not wise to have any imagination about self that I am very rich or I am something great. Now even the poor people suffer from ego element; Even the dalits are becoming egoistic, Its beyond understanding: They talk as if they are something very great. What are you as an individual? A devotee of God Almighty. You are Sahaja Yogis, who believe in God. To think about yourself like that, is to go away from the state of joy, (anand). because the power of Shiva takes the seeker to the state of joy. To get engrossed in the state of joy, a man worships Lord Shiva. But I have seen that most of the Shiva bhaktas are filthy type of people, no one can dare to talk to them. What is the use? Because the are woeshipping Sakshat Natraj, from whom emanates all form of arts, extremely joyful and embodiment of permanent joy, before Him, how could these pseudo devotees be called His bhaktas? They hang such a big linga in their neck, that could give heart attack. What is the need for that? You are yourself the sakshat linga swarupa. Without becoming that, they, who are worshipping Shiva claim that, "we are Shiva Bhaktas". They do Shiva bhakti and also fight. And for this they have different marks. Shiva bhaktas will use sandal powder across the forehead, and Vishnu bhaktas will use the same along the forehead. dear brother! what does this mean? Vertical application on means that we are ascending. Alright, if you are ascending spiritually, then after ascending you should be peaceful. It should be applied both ways, or don't apply at all. It should have some meaning, that whatever we are trying to achieve, should be through this central path. While passing through this way, you have to leave behind all the negativities. Before criticizing others, learn to criticize yourself. "I am like this, I am like that", say it to yourself, when you start critisizing yourself, then you will see that all the bhoots (evil spirits) will run away. Because we have gathered all these negativities. by our continuous thought process, by our Agnya; The excessive use of Agnya, started accumalating negative forces, every thing became mental projection, and such a person becomes very troublesome and miserable. And that misary makes him also miserable. By giving unhappiness to others, you can never be happy. It will have its impact on you even if you are a stone. It will have its impact and the impact is such that, the person becomes miserable. As far as a mother is concerned, she always thinks of your welfare. She thinks of the things which can give you comfort, give you contentment and give you peace of mind. Which can give you love, and you become a saintly person in this world. This is the method of the Mother. But this is not Lord Shiva's method. He tolerates upto a certain limit and then deals so severely that I get terrified that what is going to happen to this person. Where shall he reach? What is He doing? He doesn't think that. It is not within His nature to think that, what if he is very bad and very evil, let me forgive him. Yes, if the person is worthy of His forgiveness, then He forgives. And those who meditate upon Him continuously, He blesses them with boons. But that person who, basically, does not want to rectify himself, Lord Shiva sets him right. This is true. That’s why we should be scared of Him. that is why He is called Bhayankar. When He gets angry, He does not forgive anyone. But His worst anger comes, during the time of doomsday, what we call as "A night will come, when the whole creation will come to an end". At that time He will destroy everything with his anger. This time comes, as I have told you, at the time of last judgement. In this, which path you take to, where you go, whatever you are doing, all these things are completely. stored within you. Every small detail about you, accordingly sends you either to heaven or to hell. It is Lord Shiva who sends people to hell; I do not do that. I have nothing to do with (Narka) Hell. But Lord Shiva has He will pull you by your legs and throw you in the hell. Then you can not say that I am the worshipper of the Mother, and I am the follower of mother, then why is this happening to me? I am not instrumental in it. Once some one calls me Mother, then I can not think ill of him. But, If I am the dignity (Maryadas) for Shiva then He is my dignity too. But, in this regard since we both are totally opposite in nature, you have to be very careful. And, the eleven Rudras present in Jesus Christ also is HIM (Shiv ji) The emotions of the Rudras are the form of Lord Shiva. that is why, you have to be very careful. regarding this I have to warn you because, even in Sahaja Yoga some people come to earn money, some talk ill of others, some do wrong things, some do injustice, Such persons are sieved out of the stream, But as soon as they are out, they get into the orbit of Lord Shiva. Then I get the news that, they have gone bankrupt, this has happened, that has happened, I say now don't tell me this. Now he himself has out of his protection, then who could save him? So, you should try to seek your protection in Lord Shiva. Of course, you are protected by the Mother, But you should seek Lord Shiva's protection, For that, I told you about the five things now. The subtlity of these five element, should be attained by you. And to achieve that State, its necessary to meditate regularly. Those who meditate, look totally different And those who do not meditate look different, there is no doubt about it. Now those who meditate but they are not willing to do so, Whose attention is not there in meditation, those who do not have understanding or expertise for meditation, and towards that, there is a kind of lazyness, then that meditation is not successful. there is no benefit in that. Meditation should be such that, each and every cell of your body, gets filled with joy, and happiness pours out of them. Lord Shiva's first and, most important blessings is that, he gives you Joy, fills your being with happiness. just by chanting his name, a person, should become joyous. But instead people always behave opposite to it. Whatever is expected does not happen, this makes me feel surprised, that the people whom we think to be Shiva bhaktas (devotees), how could they be so dry personalities? Not possible at all.. There is one more reason for it. Those who are busy working always, too busy, they become right sided. When they become right sided, they get disconnected from Lord Shiva They move away from Lord Shiva. and then Shiva shows His powers. Now You know that goddess Saraswati is the sister of Lord Shiva. The worshippers of Saraswati, meaning, the people who read and write, who gather knowledge, and apart from that, who are interested in art, who are genuine art lovers, this kind of people who worship Shri Saraswti, pay homage to her, they should know first of all that She is Shiv Ji's sister and you know that sister's relationship is amazing. If you try to insult His sister, adopt any bad qualities or talk ill of Her, for example many people write impure literature or bad books, many people have knowledge, but they misuse it, this kind of people can not escape the wrath of Shiv Ji. Because His sister is very important to Him. And to insult Her is like greatest sin on earth. In His view, it is a very big sin. And for Adi Shakti also His protocols, are equally rigid, there is no doubt about that. (please check this, it is falling off, now it is alright) And now, Sahaja Yogis, first of all have to pay attention towards themselves. I do not mean that they should sit before the mirror for hours . Not at all. sitting before the mirror always also is considered to be a disease. I mean to say that you should have attention towards your ‘self’. look at yourself and see" what are the problems within me"? “What wrong things am I doing?” In our Indian culture, (caughs) the straight path, which has been suggested, should be taken. Now a days, new Era has come, so, people think they can live as they want, but it is not so. Being in India, you have to be totally according to the Indian culture, Your life style should remain connected to lndian culture, because, in Indian culture, great importance is given to Shiva Tattva. Most important of all is Shiva Tatva. And Shiva Tattva only has created our boundries of good conduct. The moment you cross these maryadas, you are finished. All these rnaryadas which are in our culture are because of the grace of Lord Shiva. Whatever has been told to us so far, don't do this, don't do that, everything big and small, maryadas (boundreis) has been laid by Lord Shiva. He is so much concerned about His maryadas that, The moment you step over these boundries, you get affected by them. Now, in the name of Shiva Tattva, People have created so many wrong ideas. Like, many people think that by taking Bhang (an intoxicating drink) you can awaken Shiva Tatva. Many others who consume liquer think that, drinking of Alcohol submerges you in Shiva Tattva! Many wrong ideas of this type, has been created by people, that, this kind of act is alright for Shiv Ji. It is fine for Shiv Ji to do that. For that matter Shiv Ji drank poison also. Would you also drink poison? He drank poison to make the whole world free from it. that is why He used to eat Dhatura (moon flower), because dhatura contains poison. Similarly you might have heard that Sai Nath, used plenty of tobacco, Aaaaaa! He used to fill it in a pipe and inhale the smoke. Because, in Maharashtra people are addicted to tobacco, everybody. Minister also will consume tobacco and his servant also will consume that. And minister will tell the servant, "give me tobacco if you have". To this extent there people are used to tobacco Although this tobacco is not grown there. (in Maharashtra). But somehow they are crazy of tobacco. to great extent people consume tobacco in Maharashtra. To free people of this tobacco Sainath, thought," why don't I consume the whole tobacco". That is why He used to inhale Tobacco, But people started saying, "Sainath is taking tobacco, so we also can take it". Because of these kind of people, He used to consume tobacco so that the tobacco addiction of these people will come to an end., Now, what ever you call it, tobacco is tobacco, Now, the connection between Lord Shiva and tobacco is not direct, but it is definite that He wanted to destroy the tobacco from the whole world. Now supposing you are the Goddess, so the job of the Goddess is to eat all the bhoots. would you also eat Bhoot? And it is the job of the Goddess is that, what ever deseases you are having, she absorbs all of them. So, Would you also do the same? This is not your job. Similarly, whatever saints and sages have done, you neither have the power to do any of that, nor it is your job. Your duty is to cleanse yourself, to correct yourself and first attain that state, then all other matters will be alright. But, if you don't reach that state, it is useless. All the rituals you are doing will be a waste. There are many things, for which the justification can be done in a wrong manner. but if we go in the right direction, in right manner, then first of all we have to purify our hearts. All these habits, we are addicted to, these habits also altogether affect our heart. So in the olden times, it so happened, that all the disciples who came were made to sleep in jungles, They used to live in jungles among the snakes, scorpions cobwebs and other animals. so that you do not get addicted to luxurious life. At the most they could sleep in huts, which was done with cow dung. They used to live a very simple life, and wear minimum of clothes. so that they could not be crazy about clothes. "We want to wear theses cloths, we want this shoes, we want this food", Sahajayogis should not say all this. You know that your Mother could live anywhere, could sleep anywhere; could eat any food. So this taste bud within us, In our country, all the Indians are very fond of eating. Sahaja Yogis also invite each other for dinner and lunch. Ladies, in perticularly have that thing to say, when I go somewhere "mother, come to our house for a meal". I say, its difficult for me to go and eat anywhere. I can not eat in a hotel, I can not eat anywhere Even in my own house I eat without salt and sugar. My taste buds are like that from my childhood. Whatever is available I eat that. But our tongue is used to spicy and tangy tastes, all Indians. Whether they are from from U.P., from Punjab or from South In the matter of eating, Indians are great experts. They befool men by serving them good food. "My husband is fond of this food, my husband is fond of that food" What to do? Women will be slaves to their husband and try to please them. If day and night they keep talking about food, then they are not Sahaja Yogis And when I was there in Milan There during the program of Guru puja, I myself cooked food. What to do? For four years I myself cooked there, because no one else could prepare tasty food. People would say "Mother, it tastes just like plastic". In particular all Indians. All the Indians who come there for Puja, have to meet me. as if they have special right over me. Also they are very critical of the food, that the food served here is not good. Now one more new thing has begun among Indians, that they want attached bath. Their bathrooms, if you go to their houses and see, how their parents lived there. Now, they want attaced bath, that too of the western style. I am mentioning this today, because I am tired of it. In Ganapatipule, I provided Western bathrooms for the foreigners. At first I provided Indian toilets, thinking that Indians will like Indian style. And provided English people with western style. But Indian also demanded western bathrooms. Now what is this? I said now a strike is going to start here. I said, take tumblers and go to jungle, that is what you deserve. For years together that is how they have been going, but now they have become big Sahibs, they want attached bathrooms. The poor English people, poor foreigners who had come from abroad said, mother! we prefer Indian style. Because they are very clean, so give us Indian bathrooms only. Then I changed the arrangement and Indians were very happy that they got attached bathrooms. You should be ashamed of it. Sahaja Yogis, talking about such things should be ashamed. Your forefathers used to go to jungle with tumblers and why do you have this new hobby? Have you got some disease or any other problem? They put me in great trouble. But somehow it struck me that "okay you take this and you take that" This kind of giving excuses and this kind of work, is typical nature of an Indian. You will be surprised, people who come to Cabella, all of them stay with one another, though they are very rich people, they have cars and everything, still they would sleep in the pendal, but Indians will have a special place for themselves, they will stay in hotels and roam around in cars, They do not have, even to a small extent, any kind of sacrificing attitude. They have not learnt how to sacrifice this modernism is beyond me to understand. Now, there are no servants in their houses. So, they have no attached bath, they have only one bathroom, because they only have to clean it. You all have servants, so you can afford even ten-ten bathrooms. But all these things are taking you away from your own powers. Your attention is going in useless things. Frittering away of the attention in absurdities, all these will make you a very ordinary human being. Among women, it is fashion now-a-days to go to beaty parlours. their face will remain the same. They will spend money there, do this here and do that there. In Pune, wife of Brahmins will wear sleeveless dresses, use eye goggles, And roam around in a moped, not understandable. In Pune, which is punya-pattanam (land of good deeds). Is this the way to do good deeds? This is how we are adopting western system, without thinking, where is Shiva Tatva in this? Look at Shri Shiva, He is sitting with minimum of clothes. In His marriage procession also He sat upon Nandi and went. Why Nandi? Because Nandi is His disciple. Whatever He says, Nandi will nod his head He can tell Nandi anything, that's why Nandi is His dearest desciple. Now, He sat upon Nandi and arrived at His wedding venue So, Parvati Ji had no objection, but Her brother Vishnu Ji was little worried that, Why the bridegroom is coming in this manner? I do not mean that you become this kind of a groom, I dont mean that, but, still to overdo things of the whole world and spending unnecessarily is of no use. Be sensible. sensibility is your ornament. To accept every thing, whatever is available, is alright Food- alright. Now, they will go to someone's house for food and keep critisizing the host. may not be on their face but will come home and say " what kind of food was that?", If someone has cooked good food, still they will say, "you also cook the same way". The whole day attention on taste of the tongue is, too much in India, beyond the limit. And this should be reduced a bit. These people (foreign Yogis) eat your Indian food, I have never heard any complaint. Although, you can never eat their Western food. But the way you have coated your whole self, will not let you get into the deeper jpy. The joy of Lord Shiva, to achieve that, People had told, that you renounce every thing, first renounce the world Go to Himalayas and stand on one leg. Wear minimum of clothes. Take a dip in the river and then meditate with wet clothes. they used to torture the body. Even these days Gurus beat their disciples. They trouble a lot, realisation is not given so easily, no way. After giving all the trouble, then the desciples get realization. but their realization establishes them. strongly. But you all have realization just like that and your previous habits are still linger on. These problems are still with you, now what to do with them? they need to be shaken off you. All these things which we have accumalated need to be pushed away, totally finished. And for that there is no need to make a show, renounce the world or leave the home and family. Any kind of, Dravidi Pranyamas (holding the breath) are not required. But one thing is a must, your temptation of the taste buds, should be reduced slowly. Tastelessness should come inside you. it is very important. tasteleness of the tongue is a great quality. People get enraged if they do not get food of their own choice. They throw away their plates, beat their servants and what not? If you can conquer your taste buds, then many sweet shops will close down, in my openiun (laughs). However, I mean to say that, the body should not be given much importance. If the body is given the comfort and supposing you sleep on a cot, you can't sleep on the ground. then for ten days sleep on the ground. How can you not sleep like that? Without enslaving your body, you cannot achieve anything. The talk about your comfort should come to an end. Many people are there who can not travel by bus. Because they want to go by car. Then borrow car from here, from there, sit in this car, that car but none of them will think "come, let me travel by bus today and see what happens? And earlier there were no buses also, people used to walk When we were in school, we used to walk five miles daily, though we had car and everything. Such were the parents of mine. But we were very fond of walking bare foot,, And without shoes, carry slippers in hand. Because of the vibrations it felt good to walk on the earth. You should also make the habit of walking without shoes and slippers. It is very important and very beneficiary. Mother earth will have your vibration and you wil alsol feel nice. In every field we have become too much of comfort loving people. We have become Just like few Nawabs of earlier days. And what did they get? we can get nothing from that. our lives whole will be wasted by becoming slaves to eaeryone. we have to reduce this slavery, and establish within us the essence (tatva) of Param Shiva. And for that it is essential that nothing else is important. Today dress-up like this, tomorrow wear that dress, and with that this should match and this and so on. Whatever is available accept. Whatever comes your way wear that. It is alright, You will not be in any trouble because of that. On the contrary you will be happy that you are a contented person. Whatever I got, I have accepted wholeheartedly. Now a days, in our Nagpur, I don't know if the situation is same here also, the cost of the gas sylinder has gone up by 16 RS. The photos of the women who opposed this came in the paper, all well dressed and made-up. I said that their powder iyself must be worth Rupees fifteen. Why should these kind of people go on a strike, for name's sake. What for? Because of the increase by 15 Rs. Can't they see that their salary also has increased. Earlier, Supposing, we were paying Rupees 20-25 to our servants, Today we pay 2500 Rs. He also complains, though he gets clothes and other things also. salaries are increased so much, would not the prices increase? When the salary increases, costs also rise up. There is a story that in Sri Lanka, labors were given one gold brick a day. One person went to recieve gold bricks. He found that, after working for one day he recieved two glod bricks. after that he went to a barber shop for shave. He asked the barber “What are the charges?” “Two bricks”. As the income, so the expenses. It is a mtter of descretion. what is the point in grumbling over the price rise, this and that. How much your salary has risen? By a huge number. Then why to keep crying about the price rise? When the salary increases, price-hike has to happen. Your salary has increased and the prices to remain as it is? Its a very simple thing, if we learn this, then socially also we could achieve Shiv Tattva. Now, Gandhi Ji was an amazing person. I was with Him in his Ashram, nothing used to happen to me. But others used to cry. Because His policy was, AAAA! clean everyone's bathroom, everyone's, guest's and everyone's, there was no sweeper at all. (Shri Mataji laughing) Wash your own clothes, wash your own plates. And the meal consisted of boiled food with mustard oil on top of it. Now, tell me how many Indians can eat that type of food? People used to stay there for 2-3 days and then run away. This was the situation. Now, you people also should learn to controle your taste buds. Now, as far as tastelessness is concerned, I don't know how you can develop that, But you should eat only boiled food for a few days. No mother would say such a thing to her children, what do I do? It is damaging your Shiva Tattva in you. If all of your attention is in eating tasty food, then your Shiva Tattva will disappear and all the efforts taken will go a waste. So, to get engrossed too much in eating, is not so good. In olden days people used to observe fasts once a while, something or the other, They used to sacrifice. But now a days it is very difficult to say, that if you become contented, become satisfied, then it is not necessary for you, absolutely not required, that all the time you talk about eating and drinking and invite others for supper. Then in India we have caste system. Kayasth are separate, Hindu brahmins are separate, and others are separate, even now. Now what has happened, is that all the kayashth Sahaja Yogis have become one group, Brahmin Sahaja Yogis have become one, Now you all have become Sahaja Yogis, then why are you still worried about brahminism? Then kayasth will invite other kayasths for a meal. And Brahmin will invite other brahmins for a meal. If you have to do this kind of stupidity, then why did you come to Sahaja Yoga? There is no Caste and creed in Sahaja Yoga. When you could not leave the fundamental wrong thing, then what else can you leave? Did Shiv Ji have caste and creed? People with one blind eye, some with broken leg, some with broken hands, this kind of handicapped people accompanied Him in His marriage procession. So, it is against Shiva Tattva to be concerned too much about, food that "I am very perticular that the food should be like this". And then separate food for Kayasth, separate for Brahmins, separate for other casts and separate for Rajputs, separate for every one. Now, we want only that food. I have never understood, till date I could not understand, if there is more pleasure in eating different foods, then why do these people ask only this type of food. What is the reason? For Bengalies Bengali food, For Madrasis, Madrasi food, Once I asked in our airforce, I mean in airlines why there is no good standard food? They said "mother, tell us which is India's standard food"? That is very true? If you prepare some food, they will say "this is madrasi food". Madrasi will say "this is Bihari food", this and that and that. So, you should know to eat all types of food. Because everything starts from the mouth itself. This Vaikhari (Marathi word) Meaning tongue, in our tongue also (while we speak) there should be sweetness) (not clear) In the smiles of some people it feels sometimes, as if Ravana is emerging out of their mouth. Then what can be said about their speech? And when they talk, it feels as if some chandika is talking, particularly women exhibit this. And men also display such action. Different peculiar things have come up now In this Where is Shiva Tattva? Lord Shiva is the ocean of love, He bestows boons even on Rakshasas. Lord Shiva has bestowed boons even on rakshasas. If we have to awaken His Tattava within us, then how could we get entangled in petty matters like this? How can we do this? Tell me. The way in which we criticize each other Some say he is "high" some say he is" low" it is not like Lord Shiva. The streams of love are flowing within Lord Shiva, And while flowing in this ocean of love – you should not say such baseless things. There is no use of it. Mutual love, mutual understanding and joy among one another should be enjoyed. Now it is definite, that Sahaja Yogis do not fight with each other, I have seen that. they meet each other they meet with love. But still, even now very petty matters which are very personnel, like eating- drinking, getting around and moving around need to be corrected. If we do that it will be wonderful. Your attention will go towards your heart, will not remain in these things. Will not stay in these matters. This disorder is more in foreign countries. Because there, one better than the other, manufacturing units are available for different things. And the wearer of those things starts thinking very high of himself. Perticulerly in Italy this is too much in vogue. But you should not get caught in all these things. You Lead a simple life. In our country, people who lead a simple life have attained great heights. Others can not achieve this. In olden days, since Gandhi Ji asked every one to wear Khadi cloth, everyone obeyed and wore khadi. He made this rule and set everybody right. But now you have to set yourself right. Because you yourself are enlightened by your spirits. You are under the direct protection of Shri Shiva. You have to correct your own self. You don't need to correct others, Just correct yourself, and feel blessed that you are a self realized person. How many were there earlier? Only a few of them and they also used to get killed. Today you are in thousands, So start doing this. Sweetness in your talk, not superficially but from the heart. when you talk to people from your heart, no one mistakes it. So you talk from your heart. With children, with elderly people, following the bounderies of good conduct, when you make yourself happy, you will make others also happy. But, within you this blessings of Shri Shiva should be there, which can make you contented, Nothing else can make you that. So look within yourself and see if "I am contented or not? "Am I satisfied or not"? "Do I quarrel with others over small – small things"? "Or find faults with them"? Then definitely there is something wrong with me. And, by putting your attention on that also, you can get cleansed. Until you see your shortcomings, how could you cleanse them? This cleansing is much needed. And only by this cleansing, You can visualize that God almighty within yourself, And other people also can this bliss. Infinite blessings. [Shri Mataji speaks in English] It's a very long lecture I have given in Hindi language; and because there are very few, also, Sahaja Yogis from abroad. What I was telling them was that about the Principle of Shiva is in your heart, and that reflection is not on a chakra, but on a… like a mirror. Now, whatever is visible of you is this mirror. In this mirror, what reflection you have? Do you have a reflection, which is clear, clean? Have you cleaned your heart, have you cleaned your mirror that is reflecting? That is what one has to see. Now, what I told them at length was this, that how there are six enemies we have got. And all these six enemies, one after another, try to corrupt us. Out of that, I have told them about five, The sixth one doesn’t exist much in India, which we call as lust, it's much less. But, for foreign countries one has to know that it is one of the major things that they have in the West, because they think lustful life, is the only life worth living. Beyond that, is Shiva. And that’s why we have to understood, that we have to understand that in our heart, the reflection of Shiva is only possible, in complete form when we have cleaned our heart. To have malice for others, to have lust for others, to have anger for others, to have envy for others, all these reactions within us act, and our heart becomes like a stone, it cannot reflect. So, if you have to reflect the quality of Shiva, which is very important today, in this Kali Yuga. very -there are very few people who are really reflecting the image of Shiva in their own character. So, it is important to watch yourself and see for yourself, what’s wrong with you? Where am I ? Where is my attention going? Where am I going? What am I doing? If you go on judging yourself and not others. Also, in… one of the Western things is that, they have a right to criticize others, everybody, " I like it, I don’t like it”. Who are you? Why do you say such a thing? Somebody had made a beautiful, say, arrangement for you; you sit in his house and nicely say, “I don’t like it” to hurt that person. After all, who are you? What do you think of yourself? Who are you to judge? For Sahaja Yoga,Yogis, it's prohibited to say, “I like” and “I don’t like.” It's prohibited. Look at Shiva. He likes everything. What He wears? Also snakes. He likes all kinds of animals. Every type of thing that we think is not good, ugly, for Him they are not. For example, in His wedding He took with Him, in His “Barat”, people who were all infirm. Some people had one leg; some people had limbs broken down, Some had only one eye. All such people He carried with them. To Him, these people were very dear and He looked after them, because He is the source of joy. He is the One who gives us joy. And the One that makes us joyous. The real joy is only possible if, in your heart, His reflection is there. But if your heart is full of all things, that once I have described, it becomes a dirty, very, very dirty mirror. Very surprising, I told them also, compared to Indians, Westerners are not so particular, Western Sahaja Yogis are not so particular about their comfort. Though they come from a very materialistic surrounding, they are not so much bothered. They can live anywhere, they can be happy anywhere. That’s a very good stage they have reached and that’s what’s the Indians must try to follow and don’t pay attention to nonsensical things. It is not necessary to waste your energy on nonsensical thing. Then only you can have a real bhakti for your Self, for your Atma and that is what needed today, that your Spirit should shine in your character, in your behaviour and in your personality. If that happens, then you have achieved what Sahaja Yoga wanted to do for you. It's important today, very important. If you read the newspapers, you can’t read it. And what you need is to change; the transformation; as we in Hindi call it ‘pariwartan’, of human beings into Selfhood, into Self-awareness, into the Spirit. This has to be done, and the time has come; this evolutionary process has started. There are so many of them who have got it. Now the old saints and people who were gurus, real gurus, they used to really test the disciples by making them stand on their heads for years together, sometimes put them in the water, do all kinds of things. They used to beat them and they were very harsh, testing all of them. And then only, one of them used to get Realization. Now, what I thought of – its takes too much time, to cleanse them, to put them into all kinds of dresses, this that, send them to Himalayas or to Gobi Desert. I thought it will take too much time. I said why not first enlighten them? Give them the light. In that light, they can see their problems and they will themselves correct themself. They will be their own guru, and it was successful. It was good. Now you can see for yourself what you are doing, what is your problem, what makes you so much different from others and what will elevate you. Because Sadashiva’s place is above the head, above your thoughts, above your mind, above your emotions. It’s here, and you have to cross this limit. Only when you do not react to things, and also to you nothing is important than Shiva, then only it will work out. So, in some things Indians have to learn, and in some things you foreigners have to learn. So many things you have done, I must thank you very much. People used to think that I cannot do anything. You have given up drinking, you have given up all kinds of bad habits, you are no more womanizers, your attention is so clean, so many things you have done, which is really praise-worthy. But still, you must learn that still, there are certain things lingering, which must be cleared out and must be absolutely finished. You don’t have very much politics but sometimes there is also politics, group forming is there. All this has to go away. Because for Shiva, what is this? The whole universe is at His feet. To Him to have a one group here and a one group there, all that doesn’t matter. To Him, it doesn’t come into his head, you see. For a person like a very big ocean, it touches many shores. But in itself it is a big ocean, In the same way is Shiva principle, and you all should develop that principle of Shiva. And then see the joy. the joy of this great ocean of love. May God bless you.

1999-02-14 Mahashivaratri Puja Talk Hindi English, New Delhi, India, First, I ‘ll speak, in Hindi language and then in English language. [English translation from Hindi] Today we, have assembled here to worship Shri Maha Deva, Shri Shiva Shankar. In the name of Shankar ji, many organizations have come up in this world. Because of Adi Shankaracharya’s emphasis, worshipping Shiv Ji is being done , by people in a big way. And in Southern India two types of sects have come up: one which is called as Shaivites, and the other are calles as Vaishnavites. Now Shaivites are the worshippers of Lord Shiva and the Vaishnavites, who worship Lord Vishnu. In our country we are expert in dividing ourselves. We divide Deities as well; and when we try to reunite them, then things take a very bad Shape. For example, a new matter has come up, by name Ayyappa. It is a very wrong thing. And in that it is shown that, when Lord Vishnu assumed the form of `Mohini’ then she got a child from Lord Shiva. Is it possible by any chance? Such nonsensical beliefs are generally spread in our country, And then different groups are formed on those beliefs. When Indians find some or other reason to fight, they become very happy. If they have nothing to fight over, then, they create something from their own imaginations. So these two things are connected with each other as, Sun is with sun light, word with its meaning, Moon with Moon light. Meaning that the `Sopan Marga’ which has been created, which we, call as sushumna nadi, which is centralpath, is the path of Lord Vishnu. And through this path we attain the Shiva Tattva. So Shiva Tattva is the destination to Shiva, and the path is made by Lord Vishnu. To create this path Vishnuji, and Adishakti have taken efforts. Lord Shiva has no role in it: He sits comfortably in his Seat, not bothering about anyone who comes or does'nt come. So, to attain this Shiv Tattva, we should go through this Vishnu Path (Sushumna Path) And for that, the several chakras (centres) that are present, have to be corrected first. When the centers are cleansed, our Vishnu path opens up. And along with that, we gradually start ascending. I have told about all these centers, many a times. But, there is a center in Heart also, which we call `Left Heart’. This is not the chakra of the heart, It is just that, the heart, which, reflects the reflection of Mahadeva. The abode of Shiva is above everything, Beyond the mind, beyond the thoughts. To attain this kind of tatva (principle), first and foremost we should pay attention, to see how pure our heart is. Inside our heart, we give place to many evil thoughts. For example, we feel jeolous of someone. feeling jeolous, in the sense, if sombody has been evil to you, might have harmed you also, troubled you, But there is no use becoming jeolous of them. If your heart is pure then the mirror in which, The God almighty's reflection is going to fall, will be very clear. But if you are full of jealousy, then the mirror will not remain clean and the reflection of will also not be perfect. To have enmity towards anyone, And towards anyone to have in the heart, any kind of miserable thoughts or ill feeling, is very wrong that is why, Christ has said that forgive everyone. To forgive is extremely important and, before and after Christ, many saints have said the same thing that forgive everybody. The moment you forgive, immediately Lord Shiva, takes the situation in his hands. The Subtlest power of all, is that of shri mahadev. And He, then completely punishes him, totally punishes him. This is the work of Lord Mahadev, not yours. Therefore to be jealous of any one is very bad. But I find that there is lot of jealousy even in Sahaja Yoga. Sahaja Yogis are jealous of one another. If one person is made trustee, the other one is not, then he is jeolous. This trusteeship etc. have no meaning, you all know it is a myth. It is all your mother's drama and spread a web of maya. Even then it disturbs the mind of the people; one person,s mind gets disturbed and the other feels bad about it! I do not understand what should I do! Such a big work is happening in so many countries, So, I can communicate with any one person only, right? However, things are getting sorted out slowly, but still, you will be surprised that even now there is lot of discussion about who is the leader and who is what? Second thing is, for us, for Indians, a blessing is the jealousy is in money matters. Even in Sahaja Yoga there is jealousy on money matters. Someone has got more money and some less. While doing Sahaja work also people see how much money one gets, and who gives how much money? if a person's heart gets obsessed with money He becomes useless for SahajaYoga. Because his heart is covered with materialism. If any kind of, any kind of materialism has enveloped your heart, then it is very difficult for you to ascend. This is the speciality of our country only I have not seen it so much in foreign countries. But here it is prominent. I think, In Russia and Eastern Block countries there is very little of wealth but they are not much bothered at all. They don't think about money at all. But their heart is so pure-so very pure. And only with the pure heart, devotion (bhakti) is possible. We all, before doing prayers, wash our feet and take bath. But bathing our heart is possible if we could ask God, that from within us, whatever negativities are there, please remove them, and purify us, then it will be a better thing. The third thing is the negativity within us, which we call as six enemies (shad ripu), Shri Krishna has laid emphasis on krodha- anger is the worst thing. everything emanates from anger. A person shows anger initially, then he gets infatuated. then he thinks "why I said all that, I should not have said" this and that. But he goes out of self-control, when he gets angry. In the fit of anger he loses his control over himself. he goes out of self-control and blurts-out all the dirt, which are meaningless. the dirt he has been accumalating since long in his heart, comes out of his mouth. We have to beware of this krodha Why does this anger come? we should pay attention towards this, that why do we get angry? There are some who are angry with a particular person. there are some who are angry with the society, Like this, people show there anger in different ways. why does this anger come to us? Why do we get angry, we should think that. Many people have told me that, "mother, if someone speaks against you, we get very angry". I feel like laughing at this. If anybody talks against me, I really feel like laughing at them. Because there is no meaning. what is there to talk against me? I am just sharing my love, even then if they speak against me then what can be done?! But some people have crooked mind, we should only pity them. We have to think that such a person is a big fool. When a person is full of anger, then our attitude towards him, should be extremely compassionate. This attitude may pacify his anger. In our country people who show their anger are of different types, there are institutions for that. Who just with their anger spred, "hit this person, hit that person" "beat up this person, beat up that person" And this is also becoming an issue in the social level. This is a very dangerous situation. To beat and thrash people, and for that perpose to form an army or, prepare some weapons to beat and hurt people is very terrifying. However, for his protection, a person, is equipped with this weapons, it is not a big deal, But, if he is a devotee of the God almighty, he doent require these. This kind of a person is always protected. When within a person Shri Mahadev resides, Who can dare to touch such a person, who can destroy him? Whatever you do, however you trouble him, still that person can not be destroyed. But those who harass them, will get destroyed themselves. When the complete trust regarding this, will come within you that whoever is troubling you, will get destroyed Then you will keep your heart totally pure and clean.. This work can happen only in a clean heart. because the Shiva resides in our heart, as reflection. And the reflection falls better in a clean mirror. Shiv Ji's anger is a one time job, or rather people say that He gets angry only once. But I have seen him getting angry many a times, because it is His right. He has a right to be angry. If any one works against Adi Shakti, then Shiv Ji has very long hands. Without listening to anyone, He finishes such a person. Because he knows that Adi Shakti will not do anything herself. She is not going to punish anyone at all, and She will forgive rveryone. So, His hands are so long, that there is no limit to them and, when those hands start lashing, then nothing can stop them. Who is there to check Him? He has got his own protocols, which you can neither change nor go beyond. This is how you should understand that in your individual life In Sahaja Yoga you have to follow only Lord Shiva. Because, if you don't follow Him, firstly, You will get heart problems. The first thing will be heart desease. It works out in two ways. Firstly with excessive anger the heart catches, and secondly, after the anger if a person repents, then you get the disease of `Angina’. This is how both the things are useless. But, anger doesn't go just by words. This is something like taing alcohol. It becomes a habit to get angry. Without his knowledge, his face gets distorted and he goes in the state of delirium, and no one can control him. So, I thought that if you sit before the mirror and get angry on yourself, rebuke yourself with few angry words, and by sitting in front of the mirror you say, "there can not be a greater fool than me". Then perhaps you may get rid of your anger. I am saying, it might be possible because at times, these problems are so complicated, that it is very difficult to solve them. Further, it has been observed that, on anything more we try to focus our attention, and on that perticular thing we, what we call as, react to it. someone says something, we react instantly This, this custom is more in foreign countries. for example there is a carpet, immediately they will say, “I don’t like it, I like it.” Who are you to say all this? Now a days, it has become a fashion to say `I like it, I don’t like it’ , as if every person were a renowned master who says `I like it’, `I don’t like it’. This should not be said. Saying this is the indication of your bad Agnya. What do you think of yourself that you are saying "I like it, I don't like it". You do not have a right to like or dislike any of the things. Supposing, some poor man gives you with affection, some very beautiful flowers, and you will say "sir, I don't like this flowers". You are unable to understand the hidden emotions behind this act because Shiva Tattva is absent in you. Even if it is a very small thing, which has been given to you by a poor person, and you don't, recognise the feeling attached to the emotion, and how lovingly he has given you that. For that in India we have the example of Sudama, has been shown. That how He arrived with roasted rice to meet Shri Krishna. And how Shri Krishna honoured Him. Anything presented with the feelings of love is exactly like, a piece of glass, becomes a shining mirror when paras (touch stone) is applied to it similarly, if you have feelings of love for someone, a very beautiful and good feeling, but you have no money, then, even if you gift that person a very small thing, then the other person should think "aha! what an excellent thing is this" But, this feeling of love gives a subtle sight to the person. which can be called as artistic. artistic qualities emanates from it. When art is visible from it, you start thinking how artistic thing is this. This art is the art of love, this is the art of love. By this art you can clearly see that, how much of love is there in this person? How affectionate he is. How loving he is, what a gentleman is he, what a good person is he. When you start seeing this quality in others then you will look within yourself, and you will start thinking "What am I?” “Do I have that much of love?” “do I have this gentleman qualities"? "Do I have all this goodness within me, or am I rendering lip service only"? and thus misleading the people"? Actually, we are misleading ourselves and none other. When we are doing wrong things, living a wrong lifestyle, when in our lives are completely filled with wrong conceptions, then we can not make anyone happy. and definitely not ourselves also. So from the point of view of “swartha”, the word "Swa" is very beautiful,"to know thyself" (swa ka arth) "Swa" means spirit, you must know the meaning of it. To know the meaning, people worship Shiv Ji. But I have seen that the worshipers of Shiva are very hot tempered, very ill tempered , very miserly and what not. No deity is as generous Shiv JI, no one is as loving as ShivJi. This source of love which is flowing today all around, is emanating from His Holy feet. It is because of Him, this work is happening. that human beings are bathing in the ocean of love in Sahaja Yoga. In Sahaja Yoga after Self-realization, when you attain that state, then you, the state of say Jiva Atma, or your, attention, your attention gets engrossed in the lotus feet of Shiv Ji. And as soon as it gets engrossed in Shiv Ji's lotus feet, what happens is within you, whatever qualities aaaa of five elements are there, they also become very subtle. Already, I have told you about the four elements, but the fifth one, which is called ‘Ether’ in English, I didn’t tell about that, here it is called akash tatva. Akash tatva is that, when a seeker attains the subtle state, then he attains the Subtlety of Ether element. That akash which is etherial, that akash, need not be activated also. If a person has any problem or any trouble, then through this all pervading power, of akash tatva, which is omnipresent, Your attention immediately reaches, where it is required. It is an amazing thing, but it happens and happened also. people may call it miracle, but it is not so. In Sahaja Yoga if your Shiva tatva is awakened, then all the subtle qualities, the subtlest of the subtle quality, the emotions and the state within you gets awakened. Therefore it is necessary for us to, first of all purify our heart. Now, so far I have talked to you, about three enemies. Now, the fourth enemy present within us is madha. Madha means "Ego". When this ego effects women, they start walking like men. Then they cannot walk like women because of the pride. "I am something very special" kind of feeling. supposing a girl either comes from a very rich family, or she is very beautiful, or very well educated, what ever the reason be, if she gets effected by ego, then woman, starts walking like a man. And when a man is effected by ego, he starts walking like a woman. Meaning, such a man makes himself up, for hours sits before the mirror, combs his hair, does this and that does all kinds of feminine actions. To dress up is the job of the woman. while walking also he doesn't walk straight. He walks in a peculier fashion. From behind, if you see him, you will feel as if a lady is walking in a male dress, So, when, a man gets intoxicated with this , ego, (madha) then he is in his own world. And he starts swaying like an intoxicated elephant All their activities are different and prominent. Whether they talk, or they don't talk, or how they sit in every action it is apparent that, they have some kind of ego within them. It is difficult to understand the cause of their ego. what makes them think that they are special. All these things are insignificant. It has no meaning at all. In Sahaja they have no meaning at all. And so that is why (laughs) to believe in the kind of things, that "we are something special", then you just end up to be nothing. You do not remain to be special, you are nothing. It means, its not wise to have any imagination about self that I am very rich or I am something great. Now even the poor people suffer from ego element; Even the dalits are becoming egoistic, Its beyond understanding: They talk as if they are something very great. What are you as an individual? A devotee of God Almighty. You are Sahaja Yogis, who believe in God. To think about yourself like that, is to go away from the state of joy, (anand). because the power of Shiva takes the seeker to the state of joy. To get engrossed in the state of joy, a man worships Lord Shiva. But I have seen that most of the Shiva bhaktas are filthy type of people, no one can dare to talk to them. What is the use? Because the are woeshipping Sakshat Natraj, from whom emanates all form of arts, extremely joyful and embodiment of permanent joy, before Him, how could these pseudo devotees be called His bhaktas? They hang such a big linga in their neck, that could give heart attack. What is the need for that? You are yourself the sakshat linga swarupa. Without becoming that, they, who are worshipping Shiva claim that, "we are Shiva Bhaktas". They do Shiva bhakti and also fight. And for this they have different marks. Shiva bhaktas will use sandal powder across the forehead, and Vishnu bhaktas will use the same along the forehead. dear brother! what does this mean? Vertical application on means that we are ascending. Alright, if you are ascending spiritually, then after ascending you should be peaceful. It should be applied both ways, or don't apply at all. It should have some meaning, that whatever we are trying to achieve, should be through this central path. While passing through this way, you have to leave behind all the negativities. Before criticizing others, learn to criticize yourself. "I am like this, I am like that", say it to yourself, when you start critisizing yourself, then you will see that all the bhoots (evil spirits) will run away. Because we have gathered all these negativities. by our continuous thought process, by our Agnya; The excessive use of Agnya, started accumalating negative forces, every thing became mental projection, and such a person becomes very troublesome and miserable. And that misary makes him also miserable. By giving unhappiness to others, you can never be happy. It will have its impact on you even if you are a stone. It will have its impact and the impact is such that, the person becomes miserable. As far as a mother is concerned, she always thinks of your welfare. She thinks of the things which can give you comfort, give you contentment and give you peace of mind. Which can give you love, and you become a saintly person in this world. This is the method of the Mother. But this is not Lord Shiva's method. He tolerates upto a certain limit and then deals so severely that I get terrified that what is going to happen to this person. Where shall he reach? What is He doing? He doesn't think that. It is not within His nature to think that, what if he is very bad and very evil, let me forgive him. Yes, if the person is worthy of His forgiveness, then He forgives. And those who meditate upon Him continuously, He blesses them with boons. But that person who, basically, does not want to rectify himself, Lord Shiva sets him right. This is true. That’s why we should be scared of Him. that is why He is called Bhayankar. When He gets angry, He does not forgive anyone. But His worst anger comes, during the time of doomsday, what we call as "A night will come, when the whole creation will come to an end". At that time He will destroy everything with his anger. This time comes, as I have told you, at the time of last judgement. In this, which path you take to, where you go, whatever you are doing, all these things are completely. stored within you. Every small detail about you, accordingly sends you either to heaven or to hell. It is Lord Shiva who sends people to hell; I do not do that. I have nothing to do with (Narka) Hell. But Lord Shiva has He will pull you by your legs and throw you in the hell. Then you can not say that I am the worshipper of the Mother, and I am the follower of mother, then why is this happening to me? I am not instrumental in it. Once some one calls me Mother, then I can not think ill of him. But, If I am the dignity (Maryadas) for Shiva then He is my dignity too. But, in this regard since we both are totally opposite in nature, you have to be very careful. And, the eleven Rudras present in Jesus Christ also is HIM (Shiv ji) The emotions of the Rudras are the form of Lord Shiva. that is why, you have to be very careful. regarding this I have to warn you because, even in Sahaja Yoga some people come to earn money, some talk ill of others, some do wrong things, some do injustice, Such persons are sieved out of the stream, But as soon as they are out, they get into the orbit of Lord Shiva. Then I get the news that, they have gone bankrupt, this has happened, that has happened, I say now don't tell me this. Now he himself has out of his protection, then who could save him? So, you should try to seek your protection in Lord Shiva. Of course, you are protected by the Mother, But you should seek Lord Shiva's protection, For that, I told you about the five things now. The subtlity of these five element, should be attained by you. And to achieve that State, its necessary to meditate regularly. Those who meditate, look totally different And those who do not meditate look different, there is no doubt about it. Now those who meditate but they are not willing to do so, Whose attention is not there in meditation, those who do not have understanding or expertise for meditation, and towards that, there is a kind of lazyness, then that meditation is not successful. there is no benefit in that. Meditation should be such that, each and every cell of your body, gets filled with joy, and happiness pours out of them. Lord Shiva's first and, most important blessings is that, he gives you Joy, fills your being with happiness. just by chanting his name, a person, should become joyous. But instead people always behave opposite to it. Whatever is expected does not happen, this makes me feel surprised, that the people whom we think to be Shiva bhaktas (devotees), how could they be so dry personalities? Not possible at all.. There is one more reason for it. Those who are busy working always, too busy, they become right sided. When they become right sided, they get disconnected from Lord Shiva They move away from Lord Shiva. and then Shiva shows His powers. Now You know that goddess Saraswati is the sister of Lord Shiva. The worshippers of Saraswati, meaning, the people who read and write, who gather knowledge, and apart from that, who are interested in art, who are genuine art lovers, this kind of people who worship Shri Saraswti, pay homage to her, they should know first of all that She is Shiv Ji's sister and you know that sister's relationship is amazing. If you try to insult His sister, adopt any bad qualities or talk ill of Her, for example many people write impure literature or bad books, many people have knowledge, but they misuse it, this kind of people can not escape the wrath of Shiv Ji. Because His sister is very important to Him. And to insult Her is like greatest sin on earth. In His view, it is a very big sin. And for Adi Shakti also His protocols, are equally rigid, there is no doubt about that. (please check this, it is falling off, now it is alright) And now, Sahaja Yogis, first of all have to pay attention towards themselves. I do not mean that they should sit before the mirror for hours . Not at all. sitting before the mirror always also is considered to be a disease. I mean to say that you should have attention towards your ‘self’. look at yourself and see" what are the problems within me"? “What wrong things am I doing?” In our Indian culture, (caughs) the straight path, which has been suggested, should be taken. Now a days, new Era has come, so, people think they can live as they want, but it is not so. Being in India, you have to be totally according to the Indian culture, Your life style should remain connected to lndian culture, because, in Indian culture, great importance is given to Shiva Tattva. Most important of all is Shiva Tatva. And Shiva Tattva only has created our boundries of good conduct. The moment you cross these maryadas, you are finished. All these rnaryadas which are in our culture are because of the grace of Lord Shiva. Whatever has been told to us so far, don't do this, don't do that, everything big and small, maryadas (boundreis) has been laid by Lord Shiva. He is so much concerned about His maryadas that, The moment you step over these boundries, you get affected by them. Now, in the name of Shiva Tattva, People have created so many wrong ideas. Like, many people think that by taking Bhang (an intoxicating drink) you can awaken Shiva Tatva. Many others who consume liquer think that, drinking of Alcohol submerges you in Shiva Tattva! Many wrong ideas of this type, has been created by people, that, this kind of act is alright for Shiv Ji. It is fine for Shiv Ji to do that. For that matter Shiv Ji drank poison also. Would you also drink poison? He drank poison to make the whole world free from it. that is why He used to eat Dhatura (moon flower), because dhatura contains poison. Similarly you might have heard that Sai Nath, used plenty of tobacco, Aaaaaa! He used to fill it in a pipe and inhale the smoke. Because, in Maharashtra people are addicted to tobacco, everybody. Minister also will consume tobacco and his servant also will consume that. And minister will tell the servant, "give me tobacco if you have". To this extent there people are used to tobacco Although this tobacco is not grown there. (in Maharashtra). But somehow they are crazy of tobacco. to great extent people consume tobacco in Maharashtra. To free people of this tobacco Sainath, thought," why don't I consume the whole tobacco". That is why He used to inhale Tobacco, But people started saying, "Sainath is taking tobacco, so we also can take it". Because of these kind of people, He used to consume tobacco so that the tobacco addiction of these people will come to an end., Now, what ever you call it, tobacco is tobacco, Now, the connection between Lord Shiva and tobacco is not direct, but it is definite that He wanted to destroy the tobacco from the whole world. Now supposing you are the Goddess, so the job of the Goddess is to eat all the bhoots. would you also eat Bhoot? And it is the job of the Goddess is that, what ever deseases you are having, she absorbs all of them. So, Would you also do the same? This is not your job. Similarly, whatever saints and sages have done, you neither have the power to do any of that, nor it is your job. Your duty is to cleanse yourself, to correct yourself and first attain that state, then all other matters will be alright. But, if you don't reach that state, it is useless. All the rituals you are doing will be a waste. There are many things, for which the justification can be done in a wrong manner. but if we go in the right direction, in right manner, then first of all we have to purify our hearts. All these habits, we are addicted to, these habits also altogether affect our heart. So in the olden times, it so happened, that all the disciples who came were made to sleep in jungles, They used to live in jungles among the snakes, scorpions cobwebs and other animals. so that you do not get addicted to luxurious life. At the most they could sleep in huts, which was done with cow dung. They used to live a very simple life, and wear minimum of clothes. so that they could not be crazy about clothes. "We want to wear theses cloths, we want this shoes, we want this food", Sahajayogis should not say all this. You know that your Mother could live anywhere, could sleep anywhere; could eat any food. So this taste bud within us, In our country, all the Indians are very fond of eating. Sahaja Yogis also invite each other for dinner and lunch. Ladies, in perticularly have that thing to say, when I go somewhere "mother, come to our house for a meal". I say, its difficult for me to go and eat anywhere. I can not eat in a hotel, I can not eat anywhere Even in my own house I eat without salt and sugar. My taste buds are like that from my childhood. Whatever is available I eat that. But our tongue is used to spicy and tangy tastes, all Indians. Whether they are from from U.P., from Punjab or from South In the matter of eating, Indians are great experts. They befool men by serving them good food. "My husband is fond of this food, my husband is fond of that food" What to do? Women will be slaves to their husband and try to please them. If day and night they keep talking about food, then they are not Sahaja Yogis And when I was there in Milan There during the program of Guru puja, I myself cooked food. What to do? For four years I myself cooked there, because no one else could prepare tasty food. People would say "Mother, it tastes just like plastic". In particular all Indians. All the Indians who come there for Puja, have to meet me. as if they have special right over me. Also they are very critical of the food, that the food served here is not good. Now one more new thing has begun among Indians, that they want attached bath. Their bathrooms, if you go to their houses and see, how their parents lived there. Now, they want attaced bath, that too of the western style. I am mentioning this today, because I am tired of it. In Ganapatipule, I provided Western bathrooms for the foreigners. At first I provided Indian toilets, thinking that Indians will like Indian style. And provided English people with western style. But Indian also demanded western bathrooms. Now what is this? I said now a strike is going to start here. I said, take tumblers and go to jungle, that is what you deserve. For years together that is how they have been going, but now they have become big Sahibs, they want attached bathrooms. The poor English people, poor foreigners who had come from abroad said, mother! we prefer Indian style. Because they are very clean, so give us Indian bathrooms only. Then I changed the arrangement and Indians were very happy that they got attached bathrooms. You should be ashamed of it. Sahaja Yogis, talking about such things should be ashamed. Your forefathers used to go to jungle with tumblers and why do you have this new hobby? Have you got some disease or any other problem? They put me in great trouble. But somehow it struck me that "okay you take this and you take that" This kind of giving excuses and this kind of work, is typical nature of an Indian. You will be surprised, people who come to Cabella, all of them stay with one another, though they are very rich people, they have cars and everything, still they would sleep in the pendal, but Indians will have a special place for themselves, they will stay in hotels and roam around in cars, They do not have, even to a small extent, any kind of sacrificing attitude. They have not learnt how to sacrifice this modernism is beyond me to understand. Now, there are no servants in their houses. So, they have no attached bath, they have only one bathroom, because they only have to clean it. You all have servants, so you can afford even ten-ten bathrooms. But all these things are taking you away from your own powers. Your attention is going in useless things. Frittering away of the attention in absurdities, all these will make you a very ordinary human being. Among women, it is fashion now-a-days to go to beaty parlours. their face will remain the same. They will spend money there, do this here and do that there. In Pune, wife of Brahmins will wear sleeveless dresses, use eye goggles, And roam around in a moped, not understandable. In Pune, which is punya-pattanam (land of good deeds). Is this the way to do good deeds? This is how we are adopting western system, without thinking, where is Shiva Tatva in this? Look at Shri Shiva, He is sitting with minimum of clothes. In His marriage procession also He sat upon Nandi and went. Why Nandi? Because Nandi is His disciple. Whatever He says, Nandi will nod his head He can tell Nandi anything, that's why Nandi is His dearest desciple. Now, He sat upon Nandi and arrived at His wedding venue So, Parvati Ji had no objection, but Her brother Vishnu Ji was little worried that, Why the bridegroom is coming in this manner? I do not mean that you become this kind of a groom, I dont mean that, but, still to overdo things of the whole world and spending unnecessarily is of no use. Be sensible. sensibility is your ornament. To accept every thing, whatever is available, is alright Food- alright. Now, they will go to someone's house for food and keep critisizing the host. may not be on their face but will come home and say " what kind of food was that?", If someone has cooked good food, still they will say, "you also cook the same way". The whole day attention on taste of the tongue is, too much in India, beyond the limit. And this should be reduced a bit. These people (foreign Yogis) eat your Indian food, I have never heard any complaint. Although, you can never eat their Western food. But the way you have coated your whole self, will not let you get into the deeper jpy. The joy of Lord Shiva, to achieve that, People had told, that you renounce every thing, first renounce the world Go to Himalayas and stand on one leg. Wear minimum of clothes. Take a dip in the river and then meditate with wet clothes. they used to torture the body. Even these days Gurus beat their disciples. They trouble a lot, realisation is not given so easily, no way. After giving all the trouble, then the desciples get realization. but their realization establishes them. strongly. But you all have realization just like that and your previous habits are still linger on. These problems are still with you, now what to do with them? they need to be shaken off you. All these things which we have accumalated need to be pushed away, totally finished. And for that there is no need to make a show, renounce the world or leave the home and family. Any kind of, Dravidi Pranyamas (holding the breath) are not required. But one thing is a must, your temptation of the taste buds, should be reduced slowly. Tastelessness should come inside you. it is very important. tasteleness of the tongue is a great quality. People get enraged if they do not get food of their own choice. They throw away their plates, beat their servants and what not? If you can conquer your taste buds, then many sweet shops will close down, in my openiun (laughs). However, I mean to say that, the body should not be given much importance. If the body is given the comfort and supposing you sleep on a cot, you can't sleep on the ground. then for ten days sleep on the ground. How can you not sleep like that? Without enslaving your body, you cannot achieve anything. The talk about your comfort should come to an end. Many people are there who can not travel by bus. Because they want to go by car. Then borrow car from here, from there, sit in this car, that car but none of them will think "come, let me travel by bus today and see what happens? And earlier there were no buses also, people used to walk When we were in school, we used to walk five miles daily, though we had car and everything. Such were the parents of mine. But we were very fond of walking bare foot,, And without shoes, carry slippers in hand. Because of the vibrations it felt good to walk on the earth. You should also make the habit of walking without shoes and slippers. It is very important and very beneficiary. Mother earth will have your vibration and you wil alsol feel nice. In every field we have become too much of comfort loving people. We have become Just like few Nawabs of earlier days. And what did they get? we can get nothing from that. our lives whole will be wasted by becoming slaves to eaeryone. we have to reduce this slavery, and establish within us the essence (tatva) of Param Shiva. And for that it is essential that nothing else is important. Today dress-up like this, tomorrow wear that dress, and with that this should match and this and so on. Whatever is available accept. Whatever comes your way wear that. It is alright, You will not be in any trouble because of that. On the contrary you will be happy that you are a contented person. Whatever I got, I have accepted wholeheartedly. Now a days, in our Nagpur, I don't know if the situation is same here also, the cost of the gas sylinder has gone up by 16 RS. The photos of the women who opposed this came in the paper, all well dressed and made-up. I said that their powder iyself must be worth Rupees fifteen. Why should these kind of people go on a strike, for name's sake. What for? Because of the increase by 15 Rs. Can't they see that their salary also has increased. Earlier, Supposing, we were paying Rupees 20-25 to our servants, Today we pay 2500 Rs. He also complains, though he gets clothes and other things also. salaries are increased so much, would not the prices increase? When the salary increases, costs also rise up. There is a story that in Sri Lanka, labors were given one gold brick a day. One person went to recieve gold bricks. He found that, after working for one day he recieved two glod bricks. after that he went to a barber shop for shave. He asked the barber “What are the charges?” “Two bricks”. As the income, so the expenses. It is a mtter of descretion. what is the point in grumbling over the price rise, this and that. How much your salary has risen? By a huge number. Then why to keep crying about the price rise? When the salary increases, price-hike has to happen. Your salary has increased and the prices to remain as it is? Its a very simple thing, if we learn this, then socially also we could achieve Shiv Tattva. Now, Gandhi Ji was an amazing person. I was with Him in his Ashram, nothing used to happen to me. But others used to cry. Because His policy was, AAAA! clean everyone's bathroom, everyone's, guest's and everyone's, there was no sweeper at all. (Shri Mataji laughing) Wash your own clothes, wash your own plates. And the meal consisted of boiled food with mustard oil on top of it. Now, tell me how many Indians can eat that type of food? People used to stay there for 2-3 days and then run away. This was the situation. Now, you people also should learn to controle your taste buds. Now, as far as tastelessness is concerned, I don't know how you can develop that, But you should eat only boiled food for a few days. No mother would say such a thing to her children, what do I do? It is damaging your Shiva Tattva in you. If all of your attention is in eating tasty food, then your Shiva Tattva will disappear and all the efforts taken will go a waste. So, to get engrossed too much in eating, is not so good. In olden days people used to observe fasts once a while, something or the other, They used to sacrifice. But now a days it is very difficult to say, that if you become contented, become satisfied, then it is not necessary for you, absolutely not required, that all the time you talk about eating and drinking and invite others for supper. Then in India we have caste system. Kayasth are separate, Hindu brahmins are separate, and others are separate, even now. Now what has happened, is that all the kayashth Sahaja Yogis have become one group, Brahmin Sahaja Yogis have become one, Now you all have become Sahaja Yogis, then why are you still worried about brahminism? Then kayasth will invite other kayasths for a meal. And Brahmin will invite other brahmins for a meal. If you have to do this kind of stupidity, then why did you come to Sahaja Yoga? There is no Caste and creed in Sahaja Yoga. When you could not leave the fundamental wrong thing, then what else can you leave? Did Shiv Ji have caste and creed? People with one blind eye, some with broken leg, some with broken hands, this kind of handicapped people accompanied Him in His marriage procession. So, it is against Shiva Tattva to be concerned too much about, food that "I am very perticular that the food should be like this". And then separate food for Kayasth, separate for Brahmins, separate for other casts and separate for Rajputs, separate for every one. Now, we want only that food. I have never understood, till date I could not understand, if there is more pleasure in eating different foods, then why do these people ask only this type of food. What is the reason? For Bengalies Bengali food, For Madrasis, Madrasi food, Once I asked in our airforce, I mean in airlines why there is no good standard food? They said "mother, tell us which is India's standard food"? That is very true? If you prepare some food, they will say "this is madrasi food". Madrasi will say "this is Bihari food", this and that and that. So, you should know to eat all types of food. Because everything starts from the mouth itself. This Vaikhari (Marathi word) Meaning tongue, in our tongue also (while we speak) there should be sweetness) (not clear) In the smiles of some people it feels sometimes, as if Ravana is emerging out of their mouth. Then what can be said about their speech? And when they talk, it feels as if some chandika is talking, particularly women exhibit this. And men also display such action. Different peculiar things have come up now In this Where is Shiva Tattva? Lord Shiva is the ocean of love, He bestows boons even on Rakshasas. Lord Shiva has bestowed boons even on rakshasas. If we have to awaken His Tattava within us, then how could we get entangled in petty matters like this? How can we do this? Tell me. The way in which we criticize each other Some say he is "high" some say he is" low" it is not like Lord Shiva. The streams of love are flowing within Lord Shiva, And while flowing in this ocean of love – you should not say such baseless things. There is no use of it. Mutual love, mutual understanding and joy among one another should be enjoyed. Now it is definite, that Sahaja Yogis do not fight with each other, I have seen that. they meet each other they meet with love. But still, even now very petty matters which are very personnel, like eating- drinking, getting around and moving around need to be corrected. If we do that it will be wonderful. Your attention will go towards your heart, will not remain in these things. Will not stay in these matters. This disorder is more in foreign countries. Because there, one better than the other, manufacturing units are available for different things. And the wearer of those things starts thinking very high of himself. Perticulerly in Italy this is too much in vogue. But you should not get caught in all these things. You Lead a simple life. In our country, people who lead a simple life have attained great heights. Others can not achieve this. In olden days, since Gandhi Ji asked every one to wear Khadi cloth, everyone obeyed and wore khadi. He made this rule and set everybody right. But now you have to set yourself right. Because you yourself are enlightened by your spirits. You are under the direct protection of Shri Shiva. You have to correct your own self. You don't need to correct others, Just correct yourself, and feel blessed that you are a self realized person. How many were there earlier? Only a few of them and they also used to get killed. Today you are in thousands, So start doing this. Sweetness in your talk, not superficially but from the heart. when you talk to people from your heart, no one mistakes it. So you talk from your heart. With children, with elderly people, following the bounderies of good conduct, when you make yourself happy, you will make others also happy. But, within you this blessings of Shri Shiva should be there, which can make you contented, Nothing else can make you that. So look within yourself and see if "I am contented or not? "Am I satisfied or not"? "Do I quarrel with others over small – small things"? "Or find faults with them"? Then definitely there is something wrong with me. And, by putting your attention on that also, you can get cleansed. Until you see your shortcomings, how could you cleanse them? This cleansing is much needed. And only by this cleansing, You can visualize that God almighty within yourself, And other people also can this bliss. Infinite blessings. [Shri Mataji speaks in English] It's a very long lecture I have given in Hindi language; and because there are very few, also, Sahaja Yogis from abroad. What I was telling them was that about the Principle of Shiva is in your heart, and that reflection is not on a chakra, but on a… like a mirror. Now, whatever is visible of you is this mirror. In this mirror, what reflection you have? Do you have a reflection, which is clear, clean? Have you cleaned your heart, have you cleaned your mirror that is reflecting? That is what one has to see. Now, what I told them at length was this, that how there are six enemies we have got. And all these six enemies, one after another, try to corrupt us. Out of that, I have told them about five, The sixth one doesn’t exist much in India, which we call as lust, it's much less. But, for foreign countries one has to know that it is one of the major things that they have in the West, because they think lustful life, is the only life worth living. Beyond that, is Shiva. And that’s why we have to understood, that we have to understand that in our heart, the reflection of Shiva is only possible, in complete form when we have cleaned our heart. To have malice for others, to have lust for others, to have anger for others, to have envy for others, all these reactions within us act, and our heart becomes like a stone, it cannot reflect. So, if you have to reflect the quality of Shiva, which is very important today, in this Kali Yuga. very -there are very few people who are really reflecting the image of Shiva in their own character. So, it is important to watch yourself and see for yourself, what’s wrong with you? Where am I ? Where is my attention going? Where am I going? What am I doing? If you go on judging yourself and not others. Also, in… one of the Western things is that, they have a right to criticize others, everybody, " I like it, I don’t like it”. Who are you? Why do you say such a thing? Somebody had made a beautiful, say, arrangement for you; you sit in his house and nicely say, “I don’t like it” to hurt that person. After all, who are you? What do you think of yourself? Who are you to judge? For Sahaja Yoga,Yogis, it's prohibited to say, “I like” and “I don’t like.” It's prohibited. Look at Shiva. He likes everything. What He wears? Also snakes. He likes all kinds of animals. Every type of thing that we think is not good, ugly, for Him they are not. For example, in His wedding He took with Him, in His “Barat”, people who were all infirm. Some people had one leg; some people had limbs broken down, Some had only one eye. All such people He carried with them. To Him, these people were very dear and He looked after them, because He is the source of joy. He is the One who gives us joy. And the One that makes us joyous. The real joy is only possible if, in your heart, His reflection is there. But if your heart is full of all things, that once I have described, it becomes a dirty, very, very dirty mirror. Very surprising, I told them also, compared to Indians, Westerners are not so particular, Western Sahaja Yogis are not so particular about their comfort. Though they come from a very materialistic surrounding, they are not so much bothered. They can live anywhere, they can be happy anywhere. That’s a very good stage they have reached and that’s what’s the Indians must try to follow and don’t pay attention to nonsensical things. It is not necessary to waste your energy on nonsensical thing. Then only you can have a real bhakti for your Self, for your Atma and that is what needed today, that your Spirit should shine in your character, in your behaviour and in your personality. If that happens, then you have achieved what Sahaja Yoga wanted to do for you. It's important today, very important. If you read the newspapers, you can’t read it. And what you need is to change; the transformation; as we in Hindi call it ‘pariwartan’, of human beings into Selfhood, into Self-awareness, into the Spirit. This has to be done, and the time has come; this evolutionary process has started. There are so many of them who have got it. Now the old saints and people who were gurus, real gurus, they used to really test the disciples by making them stand on their heads for years together, sometimes put them in the water, do all kinds of things. They used to beat them and they were very harsh, testing all of them. And then only, one of them used to get Realization. Now, what I thought of – its takes too much time, to cleanse them, to put them into all kinds of dresses, this that, send them to Himalayas or to Gobi Desert. I thought it will take too much time. I said why not first enlighten them? Give them the light. In that light, they can see their problems and they will themselves correct themself. They will be their own guru, and it was successful. It was good. Now you can see for yourself what you are doing, what is your problem, what makes you so much different from others and what will elevate you. Because Sadashiva’s place is above the head, above your thoughts, above your mind, above your emotions. It’s here, and you have to cross this limit. Only when you do not react to things, and also to you nothing is important than Shiva, then only it will work out. So, in some things Indians have to learn, and in some things you foreigners have to learn. So many things you have done, I must thank you very much. People used to think that I cannot do anything. You have given up drinking, you have given up all kinds of bad habits, you are no more womanizers, your attention is so clean, so many things you have done, which is really praise-worthy. But still, you must learn that still, there are certain things lingering, which must be cleared out and must be absolutely finished. You don’t have very much politics but sometimes there is also politics, group forming is there. All this has to go away. Because for Shiva, what is this? The whole universe is at His feet. To Him to have a one group here and a one group there, all that doesn’t matter. To Him, it doesn’t come into his head, you see. For a person like a very big ocean, it touches many shores. But in itself it is a big ocean, In the same way is Shiva principle, and you all should develop that principle of Shiva. And then see the joy. the joy of this great ocean of love. May God bless you.

2/20/1999

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Awakening Of Kundalini Is Not A Ritual

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1999-02-20 Public Program in Shivaji Park, Mumbai [translation from Hindi, Marathi] My Greetings to seekers of Truth. We don't give any importance or attention to truth, what is the reason for that? Why we don't like Truth and implement it. It's not that only this, this World has become like that one eye is on wrong or false things. For that, I can say that this is the time of severe (grievous) Kaliyuga. Very bad Kaliyuga, I have seen unique people in my time, but today I see very Vikskipt (Assimilated) people, very spoiled people. Happily, they are spoiled one, no Body has forced them. Today the condition of the Country is because the human being is falling in their morality. For that Sadhu and Saints have done so much hard work in our Country, said so much and explained. Especially Indians are specialized in whatever Sadhu and Saints said they believe in it. They don't ask any questions, in foreign it's not like that, they start to use logic (Argument) and ask them. Indians have the specialty that whatever Sadhu and saints have said they would accept it without any dispute and follow it from small talk to big talk they will listen and accept it Because of this specialty today we have walked on the right path. But now what happened in this Bad Kaliyuga that human thinks that there is nothing like the truth. False is only everything. A Peron who is following false only grows higher, he only gets all the help from everywhere. This kind of false belief we have because of Kali's domination is very strong on us, in this way we don't know that Kali's Domination Is taking us towards the destruction. Not only in our country but other countries also has more influence (domination) of Kali, people behave like fools? Indians are simple and easy people, because of that, they can accept any foolishness. Now I have seen a small thing like Onions became very expensive, but why onions became expensive, for that change of Government onions will not become inexpensive. This thing we have to think that we have been so stupid, that anybody can fool us because This Kali's influence is more on us and why it is on us because in our country Rule of Morality, Righteousness, and Spirituality is there, I was surprised in China, they were telling me your country is very rich in Spirituality, but we did not see it, where it's gone? in their country, no one goes, in another country why anyone will go? To search this wealth why they only come to your country. Where is this wealth, why this wealth of Spirituality is missing? It doesn't have any relations with any religion. All religion has talked about Spirituality. After that scholars have come, Mullah has come, they have destroyed this that is a different thing, but Spirituality is the main message or root of all religions. It's prestigious and this Spirituality was more in this country, very much more, but I don't understand why people have not attracted (Come) towards it. In name of Spirituality, people have gone to America to make money. So many people who can make others fool in the name of spirituality in India. But how many are truly looking to accept spirituality? Now we have to think about why we required spirituality. First, I want to tell you that it's originated in this country, the roots are here. Spirituality has flourished here in a real way. Other countries also have this like Islam, and you can tell it's in Christianity religion too. All religions have it, but originally in our country, people know about spirituality, it's not anywhere else, and we are like unimpaired and beggars that we don't know that we are so rich in spirituality. We can do a lot on that basis that we have to think about it. First of all, understand that the ascent of this Country will happen only through Spirituality. After that, all countries will have a spirituality that is the prediction. When they follow spirituality how they will grow. Now so far whatever we have known that to fool people in spirituality that is the first act, because of that we became ritualists. That's why we are doing something else. But in Spirituality we must know that this wealth (Mammon) of India, that's why this wealth has come from a special culture (Civilization).and this Culture is established in us for thousand years. I have not seen this kind of culture in another country. Here people are very well cultured and in small things (matters) culture is shown. It's easy to say in English I hate you, can we say this sentence in any other language, because it's a big sin to hate someone, so we can't say we are committing big sin. In this Country feeling of Sin and Saintly are very deep and it has been there. Now we have not completely wake up yet and Useless people are expanded (Spread) in this country. And Socialist, what condition of Socialist in Russia has happened, go and see that they are teaching you new things (talks), how they got into bad condition, do you want to have a bad condition here? Did these Socialists paid attention to Spirituality, and did they understand it. Only socialist, by saying socialist, you can't improve the Society. To Improve the Society there is only one way. To improve the condition of India there is only one way and that is to stand up in Spirituality. In Maharashtra Spirituality's importance is not less. Whatever I am going to reveal to you that is India's Culture is Exclusive, that doesn't mean that we are limited or small. This culture looks lie Big Ocean (Mahasagar). Somebody said Mother, you write a book about Indian Culture. Did I say Oh God, is this easy? It is a Huge Ocean (Very Big Ocean). Such as big Texts (Granth, Books) and so many things have been written, and nobody knows about it. Recently Ambassador of Mexico came to me, he was saying in Mexico Bhoot Badha (Black magic) is there.so many are suffering, Mother please show me some solutions. I told him I have written a book on it. In our country very clearly written on all things, it's written with so well and it's been told, but nobody is going towards that. Today the English language is given by British people, told me to speak in English. Here at least don't tell me to speak English. The English language is a language? In this language call it as Spirit. Now Spirit means Soul, Spirit means Ghost, Spirit means Wine, now tell in this language who can explain? This Deep talk, for that, requires very Deep People. You Indians are deep people. Increase your depth then you will understand who you are. The time when you understand who you are, then you will now you are very great and your country is also very great, here so many (Thousands) saints were born. Prophet Mohammad said that 1 Lac 24 thousand Nabi (Good People) was born. Where were they, were they born in Arbasthan? They have explained Spirituality in detail with great understanding. That is within us there is a Power called Kundalini. That must be awakened and with that awakening self-realization takes place. When Self Realization happens then the light of Spirit guides us every moment of our life. That means we understand that saying lie (wrong) is ok, No Objection. Rob someone, no objection, takes someone's money, no objection. This is ok till you are not connected with the ultimate power of God's Love. When you get connected with that power you don't' know where it will take you. So much will you will know, here most of the people who are sitting will give you the proof. Even after having all we have not viewed these. There we have not put our attention. With Great Karmas, you have born in India. Just like that, you don't become Indian. When I go to foreign, the first thing people will think that I am Indian. And from here Cheaters (False People) have gone there they are earning on this basis that we are Indian. We must awaken our culture with us and understand that in our Country a beautiful arrangement is there. We don't talk about one religion, one Special group, It's a collective thing. And that is within us residing the Kundalini, with her awakening you will get Self Realization. This Self Realization gives the light of Spirit and it's taken care of you. You don't have to think about others Good or Bad. If someone troubles you, then somebody is there to troubles him. You don't have anything to do with them. They will be taken care of. Now if I tell that Shri Shiva will take care of them then Muslims will come to hit me with a stick, Christians will say how you can say that. If I tell that Macceshwar Shiva is in Macca, then they will get upset on me. It's a reality that Macceshwar Shiva is in Mecca. Ask them why they are worshipping this stone, why they are moving around this stone then will not have an answer because it's a place of Shri Shiva. And Shri Shiva and Prophet Mohammad are not different. Prophet Mohammad is also one incarnation of Primordial Guru. That I can say that he is an Incarnation whether you believe or not, if you want to know completely about it then when you get self-realization then through your fingers you will come to know what Chakras are catching. Fingers don't require any machine, nothing. Prophet Mohammad has said when Resurrection Time (Quiamah) will come, that means you will get blessed and you will transform. When Resurrection time will come your hands will speak and give you the proof against your belief. But Muslims went in another direction and Hindu went in different directions, Christians went in other directions. For what these people can do, they only talked about Spirituality after this time of Resurrection and Transformation. And in the Hindu religion, everybody said that this time will come but I don't know why we have forgotten this and going where. We don't think about it and unnecessarily we are fighting. There is no need to fight, first to know what your religion is. King Shivaji has said that save self-religion (Swadharma). This Swadharma means the religion of Spirit. He said clearly If you want to know Swadharma because he was self-realized. You will be astonished if you see his every quality of life. How he was a great Human being. Same way Ramdas Swami was his Guru. Somebody told him in the Sixteenth Century there was more conversation about Kundalini. Brother, how long it will take for Kundalini Awakening. He said "Immediately", But Person should be receiver and Giver too. Now, these people are moving with Khomache, and give them self-realization, so can I give them. For that, it has to be deep. Don't know where that depth has gone (missed) in them. And when the depth is there then it's not difficult to experience the Spirit. This is the great Importance of Kali Yuga. At that time there was a story. Damyanti's husband named Nal met Kali, He said I will destroy you because you have separated me from my wife, then Kali told him to see brother you can destroy me but first you understand my importance. He said let me know what importance it is? That time when you will rule people will be in Illusion, they will have a misunderstanding. What you can do about it. Then He said See I will have that kind of kingdom and illusion will be there. But in that time monks and saints who are roaming in Girikandaro (Mountains) and people who will be staying in the home, the majority of them who will be in search of God, the search of truth, they will obtain the truth and they will get Self Realization. And this will happen only in Kali Yuga because they will fear Illusion and for that, they will search for Truth. When He explained this to Nal, he became quite and said alright let Kali Yuga starts. Now the Kali Yuga started and now what should I say about Kali Yuga. I have not heard in my childhood. People started coming in this time and then you will know how far it's very important to save our Country. To raise the greatness of this country is our Duty. No one from outside will come and do it. We have to do it and how we can do it. A very simple and easy method is to awaken the Kundalini of people. In Maharashtra, in the 16th century, so many saints have talked about Kundalini awakening. I want to tell that Saint Gyandeva told in the 12th Century. And Adi Shankaracharya has told in the 6th Century and 14 thousand years back Markandeya told about it. These People have said that, is it all gone waste. Today our activities (Nature) are such, for that because of that nature, the human being must think in their brain that they have gone to some wrong path, Because of that wrong Path they are suffering. Now the poor are there and poverty is also there, and they are crying, but why poverty is there. Because here people are Greedy. Greed, they are taking money where ever you go. I went to Pune, they told me, Mother, they are taking money, just tell and they are asking for money, I asked they are not eating food, they are taking only money. Whoever we see taking money. By taking money, in the end, they will go to Jail. Destroy others, Kills some one's kid. They don't care about it. Only Money, Money. But this is not a Laxmi Principle. Laxmi Principle is different, by this principle most people rise higher (Uddhar). To awaken that principle, it's necessary to Awaken Kundalini. When Kundalini awakens automatically Laxmi Principle will be seen. For the most important thing is a person becomes satisfied in that with 2 things or 4 things what does it make a difference. The meaning of Satisfied is not that you become Hermit (Sanyasi) and go to the forest. You have to stay at home. In case if Hermit (Sanyasi) comes then people will tell him to go and change your clothes. They will say we have only these clothes given by our guru; we don't have other clothes than how can we change. So there is no need to pretend that you are Sanyasi or monk (Sadhubaba). There is no need to sing or play music in a Crazy way. As you know on road no need to play Music or Sing. You have to achieve it completely through your consciousness. When you are conscious completely, you can get it through your conscious mind, Through this experience you become more flourished. Through this experience, it proves that it's like just a talk, it's not like that, you have to achieve the experience and in that, you have to keep moving forward. Thousand people get experience but very few people get into it. Surprisingly, Maharashtra is a Holy land, it has a temple of Goddess everywhere and worships them. There are so many places built of Muslim peer (Sufi or Spiritual guide), but people from here they don't understand that why were they born in this Holy land. What is special about us, why did we come to this Holy land and what we have to do here, I really feel surprised that I have worked so hard in Maharashtra, I have moved round in Maharashtra, went here and there, for Years lived in forests and small villages, Done all kinds of work, but it's very Sad that still, people follow Rituals (karmakand). In those rituals they will get up at 4 am, after the bath, they will chant (Shlokas) very loudly, they say something. Keep on doing any Rituals. They don't understand that the awakening of Kundalini is not any kind of Ritual. People with Blind faith, they will say we will give you money, awaken our kundalini. I told them, Brother This Kundalini doesn't understand money, if you insult her this way then she will not rise. They don't have enough sense (understanding) there is no other thing. They don't understand what is Kundalini? Kundalini's meaning is that within your dormant energy and when she awakens, she passes through the six centers including Brahmarandhra and gets united with all-pervading power (Brahma Shakti) and you feel this Brahamashakti is moving within you. It's the time of Quiamah (Resurrection). It's a very Sahaj (Easy) thing, means it's born with you and this is your birthright and you achieve that, but you are untouched, you don't have time. You don't have any reason, we are very happy people, when you get any sickness then you will run to come, when any problem comes then you will run to come but when you are healthy (Swastha), Swastha means steady in self. Swa means Spirit (Atma) and Steady in that. I have explained to you so many times that you have to get into Sahaja yoga. You must achieve it, it's your specialty. And the specialty of Maharashtra, you are Maharashtra, how you are from Maharashtra, think why you are called Maharashtra. Today I have visited so many cities and so many countries, people composed so many poetries for you (Maharashtra). After coming here they dropped in their ascent. Did Mother was telling this, are they Maharashtrians? Means after having a great wealth of spirituality, like in small pond so many lotuses bloomed like those high-quality people (realized souls) have taken birth here, but people from here are still like ants and small bugs. I am mother, I must tell you this that behind Great work of ours, you will be surprised to know that People from Russia, Austria, different countries, from America they are very active in Sahaj Work (working Hard). They are not Indians. All are foreigners. But now we become foreigners. In Mumbai city, People from different places in the world have come and settled down here. Instead, to spread the wealth of Spirituality from here to the whole world, don't know what they are doing? Making money, (Mother is repeating this for 3 times). What would you do with this money? Today who is asking those big people who have lots of money (Rich People) who know about them? But if one Sahajayogi is there then the whole world will run behind him because he is a knowledgeable person. He knows the art of Kundalini Awakening, he might be Hindu or Muslim, or Christian or Sikh. Whoever he is but he knows how to awaken the Kundalini. I am surprised that foreigners have come, one boy was there and I have arranged his marriage with one girl, I have not seen this girl, He came to me and told Mother, This girl doesn't have good vibrations, you meet this girl one time. I told ok, One British person is telling me this thing and no one has paid attention to this. When I saw that girl, I told her truth, her Vibrations are not good, then came to know what her problem was? I have seen everything, but if one English person (Britisher) teach you Spirituality that we don't want that situation. They have taught us Politics, have given us a hard time, but now if they come to teach us Spirituality? That's why I am telling you that you keep your vision (attention) towards you and look at yourself. They asked me to talk in Marathi because Marathi People are very conscious. And asked me to speak in Marathi. In Maharashtra, saints have worked so hard for what the outcome from you is just seen. Gyandeva (saint from Maharashtra) did not have slippers on his feet, His feet burnt. Now, why are you taking out his procession and moving around? With his procession, 15, 20 Beggars will also go, whatever village they go they will eat there on his name. In Hindi it's called Lanat (very Bad) He died (Gyandeva) till the age of 23 years behaved very bad with him (Tortured him). At the age of 23, he has taken Sanyasa (Renunciation of life) means he has taken Samadhi (the highest state of Meditation means United with Divine) this is our problem. Most of the saints have been tortured, Tukaram, Namdev they suffered. It did not come in our brain that they were all saints, and now we are learning their Poems in school. Today's poems are not good at all, doesn't have any meaning, I think it's stolen from someone. These saints took birth here, just keep this in mind, and move towards Spirituality. In the morning what will happen of just hitting the bell (Ghanta in Marathi). Getting up at 4 am, take bath in Hot water, then go for God Puja. Why you are doing puja of God. First, you do Puja of yours. Why you are facing a bad time, where this mad behavior comes from, think about it. I am telling this is Serious Kaliyuga. But after Kaliyuga, Satyayuga is coming. Why not receive benefits of Satyayuga, why don't you get into Satyayuga? The Marathi language is very fantastic, no other language is like Marathi, there are so many different and great words are there and it's difficult to translate. I am so proud of this language, so many poets were there of this language. Instead of reading Kadam Bari Kal (Book), reading dirty books. Everyone's mind is in dirty things. In ancient times we used to call Foreigners, Malecha (means those who have a desire for dirty things). Now that word Malecha has to use here since everyone is having a desire for dirty things. What happened to all of you, don't understand anything? You are Born in Maharashtra. Marathi Language, and brought a bad name to that language. What a Language (In a good way). How to describe that, it's a very proudly language. Read Poem of Keshav Suta, I don't think anybody reads it when we were in school, we were reading Keshav suta. And reading Thobada Poem. Now that all is gone. Dirty Poems are good (In a bad way), Need romantic poem, what kind of foolishness? Maharashtrian's should not encourage this kind of foolishness. You have sat on Holy land of spirituality which is the land of Maharashtra. Kundalini of the whole universe is in Maharashtra. You will not believe that what I am saying is not wrong. What are you doing after sitting here? You have taken birth in this Special Country to guide the whole world, now other people are better than you. Nobody has time in Maharashtra, they come to meet me. They don't do the voting, what kind of Patriotism? At least you do vote, No Mother I have not given a vote, we are Neutral. Why Neutral? You have taken birth in this country; we have seen good days of this Country. Thousands of people have given their lives, suffered a lot, they have sacrificed everything. My Father, I know he has given everything, My Mother, she has given all her Jewelry. They have sacrificed everything for the country, and today see what it is? Nowadays people are saying don't sing Vande Mataram (National song of India). Wanted to tell them that after singing Vande Mataram made British people go away, that much respect we must give for our country, now you are saying don't say Vande Mataram, whoever is saying that, have they gone to jail? Just think what they have done for this country, what sacrifices they have done, did they sacrifice intelligence, sacrifice morality? Did they sacrifice anything? Who are they to tell not to sing Vande Mataram? Whatever you say I will tell them to say Vande Mataram at this place. We have only ruined the prestige of our country. We have not kept our self-respect, keep this in mind, so these things happened because of our foolishness. What you have sacrificed? Did you fight any war? When Britisher was here, you were only listening to them (never stood against them) and now you are talking nonsense that's what I can say. If you are intelligent on these things, then you should be respected. If someone will tell British person that you don't sing your patriotic song, then he will slap you. Are there different laws? Every country has one law. If you are Hindu, Christian, Muslim, or whoever everyone got different laws that are because of Mr. Jawaharlal Nehru. He supported the British; I don't see him as an Indian. He has put all these in our brain, why are you accepting all that. Your country has great value, accept that. English people did not have any idea about our country and culture of our country. Because of Gandhi, we understood that. Now you become aware that means you become fundamentalist it's not like that but whatever is there we must implement it or not? This is your light that you have to follow it or hold it. Hold your status or prestige. Instead of respecting your status, if you give importance to other's status then how it will be. We must understand that who we are, and what is our true form, we are not any ordinary people that we bow down to anyone. It's a specialty of Maharashtrian, that they will listen to anyone they are famous for that. People like Tilak, Savarkar, and Ranade were there, now we don't find people like them. Anyone you ask, they will say they take a bribe, what is that? Is this Maharashtrian's behavior, that's why I request you that first become Indian, at least do that? When foreigners Sahaja yogi come to India they wear Indian clothes, they get married here, girls they put a bindi on their forehead, wear Mangalsutra (Necklace for married women) they become completely Maharashtrian. It's very surprising in Pune that ladies, cut their hair very short, wear black sunglasses, wear sleeveless clothes, sit on moppet and go, on top of it wears skirts, are these ladies of Pune? I have gone to Pune, people say its land of Good deeds, that's why I went to Pune. There was one demon was behind me, even Rajneesh (False Guru) is there and so many are his disciples, which means they (Rajneesh's disciples) need the dirty things then what I can do? Other countries will do well, but I don't know when good things will happen in Maharashtra, that I don't understand. Now Mr. Yogi told me that so many Maharashtrians are coming to Sahaja yoga and working hard, more than 10 percent of people came compare to Delhi, this is the condition of Mumbai (Bombay). Previously I used to refer Delhi as a Cat (Phrase Delhi and Billi) but now see how Delhi is so much forward (got awareness). Where Maharashtrians are? You are Maharashtrians, you live in Maharashtra, the culture of Maharashtra is in your body just awaken that, leave all mundane things, first take your Self Realization. You will easily get your self-Realization, but you have to grow into it. If seed of Self-Realization sprouted, then you must grow into it. You don't have to show your ego, means how would we go to Sahaj Center, there are only ordinary people come, that means what, we are big (rich) people, is it like that, that's why you can't go to the center. Do you all going to the temple or not? Then why you can't go to the center. They think that they are big people, we go by car, they will come by bus, where all these things came from that I don't understand. In the previous time it was not like this that's what I am telling. I am older than everyone, I have not seen this kind of thing. First, leave the ego, be humble and wherever centers are there, go to the center. Since we are not taking money how would we have palaces? Whatever place it's going there and meditate, and progress through meditation. You are big people but by going there you will not lose anything. The greatest richness is of Spirit, to know the Spirit and feel it that is the greatest wealth. That you have to achieve that wealth. If you have not achieved that wealth, then what is the use of taking birth in Maharashtra? Why did I live in Mumbai that I am not understanding? Telling you, again and again, leave all ego. Shri Mataji is saying some phrase in Marathi which means "O God let me be simple(small) to live like ant-eating tiny pieces to live, Oh God, make me as humble as possible that is take my ego away. No doubt Airaawaat (Heavenly elephant of Lord Indra) is great and gracious but still, he gets beaten up by the mahout (person who rides and controls elephant). Just Like, Airaawaat who is called a gem (being one of the 14 gems churned from ocean) gets beaten by Ankusha (a sharp tool used to control elephant) What is Control? Control means you feel proud. Sahaja yoga is very amazing, you will be surprised, and so many miracles have happened what should I tell you? I don't have to say anything. You come and see you will be surprised how miracles are happening. This is the power of God Almighty, so you will know how it all happens, you will understand this. But first, you come inside, nothing will happen if you don't come inside and you will not receive the blessings. That's why today I must tell everyone who came here that one person must tell about Sahaja yoga to at least 100 people. Then only you will receive the blessings, otherwise, I don't think that Mumbai will progress and have a reformation. There is only illusion here, but through Sahaja yoga, all your problems will be solved that's what Mr. Yogi said that's right. Nothing is wrong in that, so many problems are here, some attraction is there in Mumbai, false people, thieves from different parts of the world came here, and they don't have any fear. They know how to come out of it, keep in mind that first you get protected through Sahaja yoga. No one can touch you. So far in Sahaja Yoga, no one got any kind of problem. Only one boy got the problem that also he used to tell me every time that Mother I want to die. I asked him why? He said my mom is very cruel, I want to die, and I want another mom. I told him, I am your mother. Then only he got killed in the bomb blast by Dawood (International terrorist), other Sahaja yogis did not suffer, that much protection you get. This is the big protection you received by God Almighty. Secondly creation of arts, you are an artist, you have so many arts in Maharashtra, also a very special type of art is there, and you develop an understanding of art, that increases your creativity. Your attention comes on creativity completely and whatever work you do it becomes an artistic, your behavior, your attitude improves, that is your outside thing but from inside you become peaceful. Peaceful means you feel the witness state. That's what Shri Krishna said that you become Witness, you see everything is witness state. That means you become thoughtless and don't react to anything. But you see things in a thoughtless state. All drama happens in witness state and from that, you understand the real meaning. You understand where you have done wrong and how to correct that because you get connected with Divine. These things most of the people normally won't understand, I accept that but there is a reason I did not put any machine, this is only my love of spirit, this love is my help and this love is unconditional, nothing has to say only through this love everything gets organized. This joy of love means amazing joy and that is called Nirananda (endless joy). That joy is a very selective joy that has two sides. Only joy means one experience that experience comes all the time then you become very fearless means you don't have to take insurance. You don't require anything. Now he said I got an award, why and what award I did not ask that give me an award or do something. Why I got this, I don't understand, what awards I received, Mr. Yogi has written about it, you don't require all this. You only are in that joy and happiness. When you receive this happiness then you will not go to other mundane things. Thirdly you find the way of truth. That truth means to love and love means God. Way of truth means you see what is the truth and what is false. Discretion means through that you understand the truth and you must go on the path of truth. In ancient times there was no problem of what truth is and what is not the truth, now that has started that what is right and what is wrong. Do this or do that. Then through experiencing your spirit, you understand that very well, that what to do and what not to do, and if you surrender completely then you will not have any problem. Everything gets solved, means you will be surprised to know that, and how you have come out of the big crowd without having any problem. Now come out of all troubles sit on Mountain and feel the joy but (just experience the happiness) out of that save the people who are drowning. First with the thought of drowning in the water you get scared. That cloud of thoughts makes you more scared, and you don't understand what to do, but if you have sat in the boat then you can see the waves which are coming, if you know the swimming then you will jump and save so many people but that is the work of Sahaja Yoga that has to be done. That is the solution of the young generation for our country's fortune. If you don't help, then others can do it, but you will drown that's why as a mother I am telling you that. Mother wanted to give all her powers to her children, they should get everything. Whatever is there that is for her children, I don't want anything, that's the temperament of Mother. That is why I am requesting you go deeper into Sahaja yoga and bring others also in Sahaja yoga. Whatever problems, fights, arguments will be over. You become balanced physically, mentally, emotionally, that is very true, but how it happens, you will cure your people and then you feel so joyful, don't have to leave anything. You don't have to hold anything, that situation you receive it. All my blessings to you all. Keep your complete love in Sahaja yoga. Don't see any faults in others meaning go to a program, meet one person, he was telling this and that, have you gone to see him or gone to see yourself? Christ has said "Know thyself" do Christian try to do know thyself, they don't. They try to change religion. What they will achieve by changing religion. Mother is giving an example like donkey becomes fox and fox becomes a donkey. It's all the same. Changing religion will not help, go beyond that. Christ has said that I will send someone. Prophet Mohammad also said I will send someone. If they are the last ones, then why did they say like this? With this intellectual, you will make everyone quiet. But your wisdom must be there. If there is no wisdom and if they should get light of their spirit. With that light of spirit, you will understand that it was missing so far. My blessings are with you all. At last, we will sing Vande Mataram and everyone must stand up, because my father was a big patriot, and he was a lawyer in High court. He took the Flag in his hand and climb on top of the High court, at that time Police who were English they started shooting. He got shot in his head, with his head bleeding he went up to hoist the flag. And when he was done with hoisting, he came down. He told us you all only sing Vande Mataram, then nothing will happen to me. And today we will sing Vande Mataram, and we all will stand up. This Vande Mataram is like worshipping our Motherland. And people who are not going to sing they are foolish people and they live here; they eat here and say no to Mother when they denied singing Vande Mataram. Organizers are telling that Shri Mataji gives Self Realization to everyone. But I need one promise. After taking self-realization in Sahaja yoga most of them are sitting means not working to spread to others. I know that there will be no benefits to that. The next step is to grow into it. That is in the collective, today Sahaja yoga is collective. It's not difficult to give self-realization. I am hoping that you will spread the light of your spirit in your life. That is difficult but since they asked me then I will give it to you. Self-Realization is your thing, it's your power it's all yours. One enlightened candle enlightens other candles. That way this work is happening. But promise me by heart that we will increase the light of our spirit, and will awaken in the collective consciousness, that is very important. Because of collective consciousness, there will be no collective fights or quarreling, nothing will be there. Now in 70 countries, someone says in 80 Countries Sahaja yoga is going on. People are coming. In Delhi Program I have not seen people fighting or attacking each other. I have seen them making fun. That kind of situation comes. If today Cabinet of ministers become like that. All fight gets over here and in the center as well. But it's difficult for them as they are ministers, God saves them. But if they get self-realization then all fights will be over. It's very easy. You have sat on Motherland of India you will get your Realization very soon in no time. Shri Mataji is giving Realization and saying. Now keep your both hands in front of me. Close your eyes. If you have shoes in your feet, remove them. She is pointing on the limbic area and says keep your right hand on top of the head. You will feel some warm there. No problem. We call it in Sanskrit Talu and medical terminology call as Fontanel bone. First, you keep your left hand in front of me and right hand keep above the head In your childhood part of the soft bone over there don't touch your head but little above the head keep rotating hand and see whether from your head some cool or hot breeze is coming. Now keep the right hand in front of me and check with the left hand that cool or hot breeze is coming or not. Now the hot breeze is coming if you have not forgiven yourself and others. Mother is saying in Marathi. That you get hot breeze because you have not forgiven yourself and others.so say I forgive everyone. Then you will get a cool breeze. Now Mother is saying in Hindi. Keeping left hand towards her and bend down head and check with the right hand, from fontanel bone cool or hot breeze is coming or not. Still, if you feel hot breeze say in your heart that I forgive everyone. Now keep both hands in front of me. This is the work of collective consciousness and it's for sure that this started with Sahaja yoga. Keep both hands in front of me. Whoever felt cool or hot breeze they should raise their both hands (Mother is saying put on the light then we can see) very good all got their realization. Intellectuals also got their realization that's amazing! Now respect it and move forward in this and bring others also in this. Make them progress then your joy will increase. Many Blessing to all. This is the gift of the motherland of India. When I have to give realization in England my hands were paining a lot. You see how easy it was its all big favor or land of India, we have to return that favor. Endless Blessings!

1999-02-20 Public Program in Shivaji Park, Mumbai [translation from Hindi, Marathi] My Greetings to seekers of Truth. We don't give any importance or attention to truth, what is the reason for that? Why we don't like Truth and implement it. It's not that only this, this World has become like that one eye is on wrong or false things. For that, I can say that this is the time of severe (grievous) Kaliyuga. Very bad Kaliyuga, I have seen unique people in my time, but today I see very Vikskipt (Assimilated) people, very spoiled people. Happily, they are spoiled one, no Body has forced them. Today the condition of the Country is because the human being is falling in their morality. For that Sadhu and Saints have done so much hard work in our Country, said so much and explained. Especially Indians are specialized in whatever Sadhu and Saints said they believe in it. They don't ask any questions, in foreign it's not like that, they start to use logic (Argument) and ask them. Indians have the specialty that whatever Sadhu and saints have said they would accept it without any dispute and follow it from small talk to big talk they will listen and accept it Because of this specialty today we have walked on the right path. But now what happened in this Bad Kaliyuga that human thinks that there is nothing like the truth. False is only everything. A Peron who is following false only grows higher, he only gets all the help from everywhere. This kind of false belief we have because of Kali's domination is very strong on us, in this way we don't know that Kali's Domination Is taking us towards the destruction. Not only in our country but other countries also has more influence (domination) of Kali, people behave like fools? Indians are simple and easy people, because of that, they can accept any foolishness. Now I have seen a small thing like Onions became very expensive, but why onions became expensive, for that change of Government onions will not become inexpensive. This thing we have to think that we have been so stupid, that anybody can fool us because This Kali's influence is more on us and why it is on us because in our country Rule of Morality, Righteousness, and Spirituality is there, I was surprised in China, they were telling me your country is very rich in Spirituality, but we did not see it, where it's gone? in their country, no one goes, in another country why anyone will go? To search this wealth why they only come to your country. Where is this wealth, why this wealth of Spirituality is missing? It doesn't have any relations with any religion. All religion has talked about Spirituality. After that scholars have come, Mullah has come, they have destroyed this that is a different thing, but Spirituality is the main message or root of all religions. It's prestigious and this Spirituality was more in this country, very much more, but I don't understand why people have not attracted (Come) towards it. In name of Spirituality, people have gone to America to make money. So many people who can make others fool in the name of spirituality in India. But how many are truly looking to accept spirituality? Now we have to think about why we required spirituality. First, I want to tell you that it's originated in this country, the roots are here. Spirituality has flourished here in a real way. Other countries also have this like Islam, and you can tell it's in Christianity religion too. All religions have it, but originally in our country, people know about spirituality, it's not anywhere else, and we are like unimpaired and beggars that we don't know that we are so rich in spirituality. We can do a lot on that basis that we have to think about it. First of all, understand that the ascent of this Country will happen only through Spirituality. After that, all countries will have a spirituality that is the prediction. When they follow spirituality how they will grow. Now so far whatever we have known that to fool people in spirituality that is the first act, because of that we became ritualists. That's why we are doing something else. But in Spirituality we must know that this wealth (Mammon) of India, that's why this wealth has come from a special culture (Civilization).and this Culture is established in us for thousand years. I have not seen this kind of culture in another country. Here people are very well cultured and in small things (matters) culture is shown. It's easy to say in English I hate you, can we say this sentence in any other language, because it's a big sin to hate someone, so we can't say we are committing big sin. In this Country feeling of Sin and Saintly are very deep and it has been there. Now we have not completely wake up yet and Useless people are expanded (Spread) in this country. And Socialist, what condition of Socialist in Russia has happened, go and see that they are teaching you new things (talks), how they got into bad condition, do you want to have a bad condition here? Did these Socialists paid attention to Spirituality, and did they understand it. Only socialist, by saying socialist, you can't improve the Society. To Improve the Society there is only one way. To improve the condition of India there is only one way and that is to stand up in Spirituality. In Maharashtra Spirituality's importance is not less. Whatever I am going to reveal to you that is India's Culture is Exclusive, that doesn't mean that we are limited or small. This culture looks lie Big Ocean (Mahasagar). Somebody said Mother, you write a book about Indian Culture. Did I say Oh God, is this easy? It is a Huge Ocean (Very Big Ocean). Such as big Texts (Granth, Books) and so many things have been written, and nobody knows about it. Recently Ambassador of Mexico came to me, he was saying in Mexico Bhoot Badha (Black magic) is there.so many are suffering, Mother please show me some solutions. I told him I have written a book on it. In our country very clearly written on all things, it's written with so well and it's been told, but nobody is going towards that. Today the English language is given by British people, told me to speak in English. Here at least don't tell me to speak English. The English language is a language? In this language call it as Spirit. Now Spirit means Soul, Spirit means Ghost, Spirit means Wine, now tell in this language who can explain? This Deep talk, for that, requires very Deep People. You Indians are deep people. Increase your depth then you will understand who you are. The time when you understand who you are, then you will now you are very great and your country is also very great, here so many (Thousands) saints were born. Prophet Mohammad said that 1 Lac 24 thousand Nabi (Good People) was born. Where were they, were they born in Arbasthan? They have explained Spirituality in detail with great understanding. That is within us there is a Power called Kundalini. That must be awakened and with that awakening self-realization takes place. When Self Realization happens then the light of Spirit guides us every moment of our life. That means we understand that saying lie (wrong) is ok, No Objection. Rob someone, no objection, takes someone's money, no objection. This is ok till you are not connected with the ultimate power of God's Love. When you get connected with that power you don't' know where it will take you. So much will you will know, here most of the people who are sitting will give you the proof. Even after having all we have not viewed these. There we have not put our attention. With Great Karmas, you have born in India. Just like that, you don't become Indian. When I go to foreign, the first thing people will think that I am Indian. And from here Cheaters (False People) have gone there they are earning on this basis that we are Indian. We must awaken our culture with us and understand that in our Country a beautiful arrangement is there. We don't talk about one religion, one Special group, It's a collective thing. And that is within us residing the Kundalini, with her awakening you will get Self Realization. This Self Realization gives the light of Spirit and it's taken care of you. You don't have to think about others Good or Bad. If someone troubles you, then somebody is there to troubles him. You don't have anything to do with them. They will be taken care of. Now if I tell that Shri Shiva will take care of them then Muslims will come to hit me with a stick, Christians will say how you can say that. If I tell that Macceshwar Shiva is in Macca, then they will get upset on me. It's a reality that Macceshwar Shiva is in Mecca. Ask them why they are worshipping this stone, why they are moving around this stone then will not have an answer because it's a place of Shri Shiva. And Shri Shiva and Prophet Mohammad are not different. Prophet Mohammad is also one incarnation of Primordial Guru. That I can say that he is an Incarnation whether you believe or not, if you want to know completely about it then when you get self-realization then through your fingers you will come to know what Chakras are catching. Fingers don't require any machine, nothing. Prophet Mohammad has said when Resurrection Time (Quiamah) will come, that means you will get blessed and you will transform. When Resurrection time will come your hands will speak and give you the proof against your belief. But Muslims went in another direction and Hindu went in different directions, Christians went in other directions. For what these people can do, they only talked about Spirituality after this time of Resurrection and Transformation. And in the Hindu religion, everybody said that this time will come but I don't know why we have forgotten this and going where. We don't think about it and unnecessarily we are fighting. There is no need to fight, first to know what your religion is. King Shivaji has said that save self-religion (Swadharma). This Swadharma means the religion of Spirit. He said clearly If you want to know Swadharma because he was self-realized. You will be astonished if you see his every quality of life. How he was a great Human being. Same way Ramdas Swami was his Guru. Somebody told him in the Sixteenth Century there was more conversation about Kundalini. Brother, how long it will take for Kundalini Awakening. He said "Immediately", But Person should be receiver and Giver too. Now, these people are moving with Khomache, and give them self-realization, so can I give them. For that, it has to be deep. Don't know where that depth has gone (missed) in them. And when the depth is there then it's not difficult to experience the Spirit. This is the great Importance of Kali Yuga. At that time there was a story. Damyanti's husband named Nal met Kali, He said I will destroy you because you have separated me from my wife, then Kali told him to see brother you can destroy me but first you understand my importance. He said let me know what importance it is? That time when you will rule people will be in Illusion, they will have a misunderstanding. What you can do about it. Then He said See I will have that kind of kingdom and illusion will be there. But in that time monks and saints who are roaming in Girikandaro (Mountains) and people who will be staying in the home, the majority of them who will be in search of God, the search of truth, they will obtain the truth and they will get Self Realization. And this will happen only in Kali Yuga because they will fear Illusion and for that, they will search for Truth. When He explained this to Nal, he became quite and said alright let Kali Yuga starts. Now the Kali Yuga started and now what should I say about Kali Yuga. I have not heard in my childhood. People started coming in this time and then you will know how far it's very important to save our Country. To raise the greatness of this country is our Duty. No one from outside will come and do it. We have to do it and how we can do it. A very simple and easy method is to awaken the Kundalini of people. In Maharashtra, in the 16th century, so many saints have talked about Kundalini awakening. I want to tell that Saint Gyandeva told in the 12th Century. And Adi Shankaracharya has told in the 6th Century and 14 thousand years back Markandeya told about it. These People have said that, is it all gone waste. Today our activities (Nature) are such, for that because of that nature, the human being must think in their brain that they have gone to some wrong path, Because of that wrong Path they are suffering. Now the poor are there and poverty is also there, and they are crying, but why poverty is there. Because here people are Greedy. Greed, they are taking money where ever you go. I went to Pune, they told me, Mother, they are taking money, just tell and they are asking for money, I asked they are not eating food, they are taking only money. Whoever we see taking money. By taking money, in the end, they will go to Jail. Destroy others, Kills some one's kid. They don't care about it. Only Money, Money. But this is not a Laxmi Principle. Laxmi Principle is different, by this principle most people rise higher (Uddhar). To awaken that principle, it's necessary to Awaken Kundalini. When Kundalini awakens automatically Laxmi Principle will be seen. For the most important thing is a person becomes satisfied in that with 2 things or 4 things what does it make a difference. The meaning of Satisfied is not that you become Hermit (Sanyasi) and go to the forest. You have to stay at home. In case if Hermit (Sanyasi) comes then people will tell him to go and change your clothes. They will say we have only these clothes given by our guru; we don't have other clothes than how can we change. So there is no need to pretend that you are Sanyasi or monk (Sadhubaba). There is no need to sing or play music in a Crazy way. As you know on road no need to play Music or Sing. You have to achieve it completely through your consciousness. When you are conscious completely, you can get it through your conscious mind, Through this experience you become more flourished. Through this experience, it proves that it's like just a talk, it's not like that, you have to achieve the experience and in that, you have to keep moving forward. Thousand people get experience but very few people get into it. Surprisingly, Maharashtra is a Holy land, it has a temple of Goddess everywhere and worships them. There are so many places built of Muslim peer (Sufi or Spiritual guide), but people from here they don't understand that why were they born in this Holy land. What is special about us, why did we come to this Holy land and what we have to do here, I really feel surprised that I have worked so hard in Maharashtra, I have moved round in Maharashtra, went here and there, for Years lived in forests and small villages, Done all kinds of work, but it's very Sad that still, people follow Rituals (karmakand). In those rituals they will get up at 4 am, after the bath, they will chant (Shlokas) very loudly, they say something. Keep on doing any Rituals. They don't understand that the awakening of Kundalini is not any kind of Ritual. People with Blind faith, they will say we will give you money, awaken our kundalini. I told them, Brother This Kundalini doesn't understand money, if you insult her this way then she will not rise. They don't have enough sense (understanding) there is no other thing. They don't understand what is Kundalini? Kundalini's meaning is that within your dormant energy and when she awakens, she passes through the six centers including Brahmarandhra and gets united with all-pervading power (Brahma Shakti) and you feel this Brahamashakti is moving within you. It's the time of Quiamah (Resurrection). It's a very Sahaj (Easy) thing, means it's born with you and this is your birthright and you achieve that, but you are untouched, you don't have time. You don't have any reason, we are very happy people, when you get any sickness then you will run to come, when any problem comes then you will run to come but when you are healthy (Swastha), Swastha means steady in self. Swa means Spirit (Atma) and Steady in that. I have explained to you so many times that you have to get into Sahaja yoga. You must achieve it, it's your specialty. And the specialty of Maharashtra, you are Maharashtra, how you are from Maharashtra, think why you are called Maharashtra. Today I have visited so many cities and so many countries, people composed so many poetries for you (Maharashtra). After coming here they dropped in their ascent. Did Mother was telling this, are they Maharashtrians? Means after having a great wealth of spirituality, like in small pond so many lotuses bloomed like those high-quality people (realized souls) have taken birth here, but people from here are still like ants and small bugs. I am mother, I must tell you this that behind Great work of ours, you will be surprised to know that People from Russia, Austria, different countries, from America they are very active in Sahaj Work (working Hard). They are not Indians. All are foreigners. But now we become foreigners. In Mumbai city, People from different places in the world have come and settled down here. Instead, to spread the wealth of Spirituality from here to the whole world, don't know what they are doing? Making money, (Mother is repeating this for 3 times). What would you do with this money? Today who is asking those big people who have lots of money (Rich People) who know about them? But if one Sahajayogi is there then the whole world will run behind him because he is a knowledgeable person. He knows the art of Kundalini Awakening, he might be Hindu or Muslim, or Christian or Sikh. Whoever he is but he knows how to awaken the Kundalini. I am surprised that foreigners have come, one boy was there and I have arranged his marriage with one girl, I have not seen this girl, He came to me and told Mother, This girl doesn't have good vibrations, you meet this girl one time. I told ok, One British person is telling me this thing and no one has paid attention to this. When I saw that girl, I told her truth, her Vibrations are not good, then came to know what her problem was? I have seen everything, but if one English person (Britisher) teach you Spirituality that we don't want that situation. They have taught us Politics, have given us a hard time, but now if they come to teach us Spirituality? That's why I am telling you that you keep your vision (attention) towards you and look at yourself. They asked me to talk in Marathi because Marathi People are very conscious. And asked me to speak in Marathi. In Maharashtra, saints have worked so hard for what the outcome from you is just seen. Gyandeva (saint from Maharashtra) did not have slippers on his feet, His feet burnt. Now, why are you taking out his procession and moving around? With his procession, 15, 20 Beggars will also go, whatever village they go they will eat there on his name. In Hindi it's called Lanat (very Bad) He died (Gyandeva) till the age of 23 years behaved very bad with him (Tortured him). At the age of 23, he has taken Sanyasa (Renunciation of life) means he has taken Samadhi (the highest state of Meditation means United with Divine) this is our problem. Most of the saints have been tortured, Tukaram, Namdev they suffered. It did not come in our brain that they were all saints, and now we are learning their Poems in school. Today's poems are not good at all, doesn't have any meaning, I think it's stolen from someone. These saints took birth here, just keep this in mind, and move towards Spirituality. In the morning what will happen of just hitting the bell (Ghanta in Marathi). Getting up at 4 am, take bath in Hot water, then go for God Puja. Why you are doing puja of God. First, you do Puja of yours. Why you are facing a bad time, where this mad behavior comes from, think about it. I am telling this is Serious Kaliyuga. But after Kaliyuga, Satyayuga is coming. Why not receive benefits of Satyayuga, why don't you get into Satyayuga? The Marathi language is very fantastic, no other language is like Marathi, there are so many different and great words are there and it's difficult to translate. I am so proud of this language, so many poets were there of this language. Instead of reading Kadam Bari Kal (Book), reading dirty books. Everyone's mind is in dirty things. In ancient times we used to call Foreigners, Malecha (means those who have a desire for dirty things). Now that word Malecha has to use here since everyone is having a desire for dirty things. What happened to all of you, don't understand anything? You are Born in Maharashtra. Marathi Language, and brought a bad name to that language. What a Language (In a good way). How to describe that, it's a very proudly language. Read Poem of Keshav Suta, I don't think anybody reads it when we were in school, we were reading Keshav suta. And reading Thobada Poem. Now that all is gone. Dirty Poems are good (In a bad way), Need romantic poem, what kind of foolishness? Maharashtrian's should not encourage this kind of foolishness. You have sat on Holy land of spirituality which is the land of Maharashtra. Kundalini of the whole universe is in Maharashtra. You will not believe that what I am saying is not wrong. What are you doing after sitting here? You have taken birth in this Special Country to guide the whole world, now other people are better than you. Nobody has time in Maharashtra, they come to meet me. They don't do the voting, what kind of Patriotism? At least you do vote, No Mother I have not given a vote, we are Neutral. Why Neutral? You have taken birth in this country; we have seen good days of this Country. Thousands of people have given their lives, suffered a lot, they have sacrificed everything. My Father, I know he has given everything, My Mother, she has given all her Jewelry. They have sacrificed everything for the country, and today see what it is? Nowadays people are saying don't sing Vande Mataram (National song of India). Wanted to tell them that after singing Vande Mataram made British people go away, that much respect we must give for our country, now you are saying don't say Vande Mataram, whoever is saying that, have they gone to jail? Just think what they have done for this country, what sacrifices they have done, did they sacrifice intelligence, sacrifice morality? Did they sacrifice anything? Who are they to tell not to sing Vande Mataram? Whatever you say I will tell them to say Vande Mataram at this place. We have only ruined the prestige of our country. We have not kept our self-respect, keep this in mind, so these things happened because of our foolishness. What you have sacrificed? Did you fight any war? When Britisher was here, you were only listening to them (never stood against them) and now you are talking nonsense that's what I can say. If you are intelligent on these things, then you should be respected. If someone will tell British person that you don't sing your patriotic song, then he will slap you. Are there different laws? Every country has one law. If you are Hindu, Christian, Muslim, or whoever everyone got different laws that are because of Mr. Jawaharlal Nehru. He supported the British; I don't see him as an Indian. He has put all these in our brain, why are you accepting all that. Your country has great value, accept that. English people did not have any idea about our country and culture of our country. Because of Gandhi, we understood that. Now you become aware that means you become fundamentalist it's not like that but whatever is there we must implement it or not? This is your light that you have to follow it or hold it. Hold your status or prestige. Instead of respecting your status, if you give importance to other's status then how it will be. We must understand that who we are, and what is our true form, we are not any ordinary people that we bow down to anyone. It's a specialty of Maharashtrian, that they will listen to anyone they are famous for that. People like Tilak, Savarkar, and Ranade were there, now we don't find people like them. Anyone you ask, they will say they take a bribe, what is that? Is this Maharashtrian's behavior, that's why I request you that first become Indian, at least do that? When foreigners Sahaja yogi come to India they wear Indian clothes, they get married here, girls they put a bindi on their forehead, wear Mangalsutra (Necklace for married women) they become completely Maharashtrian. It's very surprising in Pune that ladies, cut their hair very short, wear black sunglasses, wear sleeveless clothes, sit on moppet and go, on top of it wears skirts, are these ladies of Pune? I have gone to Pune, people say its land of Good deeds, that's why I went to Pune. There was one demon was behind me, even Rajneesh (False Guru) is there and so many are his disciples, which means they (Rajneesh's disciples) need the dirty things then what I can do? Other countries will do well, but I don't know when good things will happen in Maharashtra, that I don't understand. Now Mr. Yogi told me that so many Maharashtrians are coming to Sahaja yoga and working hard, more than 10 percent of people came compare to Delhi, this is the condition of Mumbai (Bombay). Previously I used to refer Delhi as a Cat (Phrase Delhi and Billi) but now see how Delhi is so much forward (got awareness). Where Maharashtrians are? You are Maharashtrians, you live in Maharashtra, the culture of Maharashtra is in your body just awaken that, leave all mundane things, first take your Self Realization. You will easily get your self-Realization, but you have to grow into it. If seed of Self-Realization sprouted, then you must grow into it. You don't have to show your ego, means how would we go to Sahaj Center, there are only ordinary people come, that means what, we are big (rich) people, is it like that, that's why you can't go to the center. Do you all going to the temple or not? Then why you can't go to the center. They think that they are big people, we go by car, they will come by bus, where all these things came from that I don't understand. In the previous time it was not like this that's what I am telling. I am older than everyone, I have not seen this kind of thing. First, leave the ego, be humble and wherever centers are there, go to the center. Since we are not taking money how would we have palaces? Whatever place it's going there and meditate, and progress through meditation. You are big people but by going there you will not lose anything. The greatest richness is of Spirit, to know the Spirit and feel it that is the greatest wealth. That you have to achieve that wealth. If you have not achieved that wealth, then what is the use of taking birth in Maharashtra? Why did I live in Mumbai that I am not understanding? Telling you, again and again, leave all ego. Shri Mataji is saying some phrase in Marathi which means "O God let me be simple(small) to live like ant-eating tiny pieces to live, Oh God, make me as humble as possible that is take my ego away. No doubt Airaawaat (Heavenly elephant of Lord Indra) is great and gracious but still, he gets beaten up by the mahout (person who rides and controls elephant). Just Like, Airaawaat who is called a gem (being one of the 14 gems churned from ocean) gets beaten by Ankusha (a sharp tool used to control elephant) What is Control? Control means you feel proud. Sahaja yoga is very amazing, you will be surprised, and so many miracles have happened what should I tell you? I don't have to say anything. You come and see you will be surprised how miracles are happening. This is the power of God Almighty, so you will know how it all happens, you will understand this. But first, you come inside, nothing will happen if you don't come inside and you will not receive the blessings. That's why today I must tell everyone who came here that one person must tell about Sahaja yoga to at least 100 people. Then only you will receive the blessings, otherwise, I don't think that Mumbai will progress and have a reformation. There is only illusion here, but through Sahaja yoga, all your problems will be solved that's what Mr. Yogi said that's right. Nothing is wrong in that, so many problems are here, some attraction is there in Mumbai, false people, thieves from different parts of the world came here, and they don't have any fear. They know how to come out of it, keep in mind that first you get protected through Sahaja yoga. No one can touch you. So far in Sahaja Yoga, no one got any kind of problem. Only one boy got the problem that also he used to tell me every time that Mother I want to die. I asked him why? He said my mom is very cruel, I want to die, and I want another mom. I told him, I am your mother. Then only he got killed in the bomb blast by Dawood (International terrorist), other Sahaja yogis did not suffer, that much protection you get. This is the big protection you received by God Almighty. Secondly creation of arts, you are an artist, you have so many arts in Maharashtra, also a very special type of art is there, and you develop an understanding of art, that increases your creativity. Your attention comes on creativity completely and whatever work you do it becomes an artistic, your behavior, your attitude improves, that is your outside thing but from inside you become peaceful. Peaceful means you feel the witness state. That's what Shri Krishna said that you become Witness, you see everything is witness state. That means you become thoughtless and don't react to anything. But you see things in a thoughtless state. All drama happens in witness state and from that, you understand the real meaning. You understand where you have done wrong and how to correct that because you get connected with Divine. These things most of the people normally won't understand, I accept that but there is a reason I did not put any machine, this is only my love of spirit, this love is my help and this love is unconditional, nothing has to say only through this love everything gets organized. This joy of love means amazing joy and that is called Nirananda (endless joy). That joy is a very selective joy that has two sides. Only joy means one experience that experience comes all the time then you become very fearless means you don't have to take insurance. You don't require anything. Now he said I got an award, why and what award I did not ask that give me an award or do something. Why I got this, I don't understand, what awards I received, Mr. Yogi has written about it, you don't require all this. You only are in that joy and happiness. When you receive this happiness then you will not go to other mundane things. Thirdly you find the way of truth. That truth means to love and love means God. Way of truth means you see what is the truth and what is false. Discretion means through that you understand the truth and you must go on the path of truth. In ancient times there was no problem of what truth is and what is not the truth, now that has started that what is right and what is wrong. Do this or do that. Then through experiencing your spirit, you understand that very well, that what to do and what not to do, and if you surrender completely then you will not have any problem. Everything gets solved, means you will be surprised to know that, and how you have come out of the big crowd without having any problem. Now come out of all troubles sit on Mountain and feel the joy but (just experience the happiness) out of that save the people who are drowning. First with the thought of drowning in the water you get scared. That cloud of thoughts makes you more scared, and you don't understand what to do, but if you have sat in the boat then you can see the waves which are coming, if you know the swimming then you will jump and save so many people but that is the work of Sahaja Yoga that has to be done. That is the solution of the young generation for our country's fortune. If you don't help, then others can do it, but you will drown that's why as a mother I am telling you that. Mother wanted to give all her powers to her children, they should get everything. Whatever is there that is for her children, I don't want anything, that's the temperament of Mother. That is why I am requesting you go deeper into Sahaja yoga and bring others also in Sahaja yoga. Whatever problems, fights, arguments will be over. You become balanced physically, mentally, emotionally, that is very true, but how it happens, you will cure your people and then you feel so joyful, don't have to leave anything. You don't have to hold anything, that situation you receive it. All my blessings to you all. Keep your complete love in Sahaja yoga. Don't see any faults in others meaning go to a program, meet one person, he was telling this and that, have you gone to see him or gone to see yourself? Christ has said "Know thyself" do Christian try to do know thyself, they don't. They try to change religion. What they will achieve by changing religion. Mother is giving an example like donkey becomes fox and fox becomes a donkey. It's all the same. Changing religion will not help, go beyond that. Christ has said that I will send someone. Prophet Mohammad also said I will send someone. If they are the last ones, then why did they say like this? With this intellectual, you will make everyone quiet. But your wisdom must be there. If there is no wisdom and if they should get light of their spirit. With that light of spirit, you will understand that it was missing so far. My blessings are with you all. At last, we will sing Vande Mataram and everyone must stand up, because my father was a big patriot, and he was a lawyer in High court. He took the Flag in his hand and climb on top of the High court, at that time Police who were English they started shooting. He got shot in his head, with his head bleeding he went up to hoist the flag. And when he was done with hoisting, he came down. He told us you all only sing Vande Mataram, then nothing will happen to me. And today we will sing Vande Mataram, and we all will stand up. This Vande Mataram is like worshipping our Motherland. And people who are not going to sing they are foolish people and they live here; they eat here and say no to Mother when they denied singing Vande Mataram. Organizers are telling that Shri Mataji gives Self Realization to everyone. But I need one promise. After taking self-realization in Sahaja yoga most of them are sitting means not working to spread to others. I know that there will be no benefits to that. The next step is to grow into it. That is in the collective, today Sahaja yoga is collective. It's not difficult to give self-realization. I am hoping that you will spread the light of your spirit in your life. That is difficult but since they asked me then I will give it to you. Self-Realization is your thing, it's your power it's all yours. One enlightened candle enlightens other candles. That way this work is happening. But promise me by heart that we will increase the light of our spirit, and will awaken in the collective consciousness, that is very important. Because of collective consciousness, there will be no collective fights or quarreling, nothing will be there. Now in 70 countries, someone says in 80 Countries Sahaja yoga is going on. People are coming. In Delhi Program I have not seen people fighting or attacking each other. I have seen them making fun. That kind of situation comes. If today Cabinet of ministers become like that. All fight gets over here and in the center as well. But it's difficult for them as they are ministers, God saves them. But if they get self-realization then all fights will be over. It's very easy. You have sat on Motherland of India you will get your Realization very soon in no time. Shri Mataji is giving Realization and saying. Now keep your both hands in front of me. Close your eyes. If you have shoes in your feet, remove them. She is pointing on the limbic area and says keep your right hand on top of the head. You will feel some warm there. No problem. We call it in Sanskrit Talu and medical terminology call as Fontanel bone. First, you keep your left hand in front of me and right hand keep above the head In your childhood part of the soft bone over there don't touch your head but little above the head keep rotating hand and see whether from your head some cool or hot breeze is coming. Now keep the right hand in front of me and check with the left hand that cool or hot breeze is coming or not. Now the hot breeze is coming if you have not forgiven yourself and others. Mother is saying in Marathi. That you get hot breeze because you have not forgiven yourself and others.so say I forgive everyone. Then you will get a cool breeze. Now Mother is saying in Hindi. Keeping left hand towards her and bend down head and check with the right hand, from fontanel bone cool or hot breeze is coming or not. Still, if you feel hot breeze say in your heart that I forgive everyone. Now keep both hands in front of me. This is the work of collective consciousness and it's for sure that this started with Sahaja yoga. Keep both hands in front of me. Whoever felt cool or hot breeze they should raise their both hands (Mother is saying put on the light then we can see) very good all got their realization. Intellectuals also got their realization that's amazing! Now respect it and move forward in this and bring others also in this. Make them progress then your joy will increase. Many Blessing to all. This is the gift of the motherland of India. When I have to give realization in England my hands were paining a lot. You see how easy it was its all big favor or land of India, we have to return that favor. Endless Blessings!

3/18/1999

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Gudi Padwa

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Gudi Padwa

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Gudi Padwa puja, Noida, India, 18 March 1999 Translation from Hindi: Today is the Day of Gudi Padwa [The New Year’s Day of the Shalivahana shak]. And it is celebrated in Maharashtra mostly, but now in other places too. It is said that it is a very auspicious day. Whatever work is done on that day it is fruitful. But whatever is the reason is as per worldly beliefs.The other thing is that, in the dynasty of Shalivahana, there was one person: Babruvahan. He defeated the king Vikramaditya. After that, he started this new calendar called ‘Shalivahana Shak’. According to this calender, today is the first day [of the year].Its importance is major in Maharashtra. To represent the Shalivahanas, they take a Kumbha [and a stick] on which they put a shawl – he was Shalivahana. The Kumbha represents the Kundalini. They tie a shawl [to the stick] and keep a Kumbha on top of it. The meaning is that the Kumbha also represents spirituality. Spirituality is represented by the Kumbha.The Shalivahanas used to call themselves the seven vehicles. They had a lot of faith in Kundalini. Later, they started giving a shawl to the Devi. They were worshipers of the Devi so they called themselves the Shalivahanas. That is how the name got changed. The Shalivahanas who were there, came from Mewar. They were the rulers of Mewar from the Sisodia Dynasty. Their son, of Sisodia dynasty, for some reason, had a disagreement with his uncle. So, he ran away [from Mewar] and went to Maharashtra and then to Chennai.This is how it happened and this is the history of the Shalivahanas. Even I belong to the Shalivahana dynasty. Thousands of years back they had gone to Maharashtra. We are also descendants of the Shalivahan dynasty so our name became ‘Salve’ from Shalv [or Salva]. The person Shalv, who had fought against Bhishma, you must have heard about Shalv. With Bhishma it was Shalv. He helped later the Pandavas. Bhishma had cursed him: he had made a cage around him. Because of the cage he could not come out. So, he cursed Bhishma that, "You too will be trapped in a cage". That happened to Bhishma in the end. He is also of a great dynasty, but thousands of years old dynasty. It was revived later. There was a sage there who had a dream of Shivaji, who said, “Make Bappa Rawal the king of this place”. From there the revival of Shalivahan dynasty took place. I don’t know how from ‘Shalv’ it became ‘Shalivahan’. The queen Padmini was also of the same dynasty.People of the city of Meerut went there to find out, the people were so true to their word, righteous, worshippers of the Devi. They say that, "You cannot even find such type of people there". They were very different people.Everything of theirs was destroyed as they did not compromise. But Jaipur people compromised – first with the Muslims then with the English. So there, there was prosperity. One should not judge people based on prosperity but based on character. Today, this day was started by these Shalivahanas, by Babruvahan. So, it was made slightly earlier to Christ during the time of Vikramaditya. Even now people of Maharashtra believe a lot in it.Here [in the North], it is the ‘Vikram Samvat’ [Vikram calendar]. In Maharashtra, it is the Shalivahana Shak. Even we, probably because I am from Maharashtra, we follow the Shalivahan calendar. According to it, today is a significant day and whatever you desire will be fulfilled.Many blessings to all.

Gudi Padwa puja, Noida, India, 18 March 1999 Translation from Hindi: Today is the Day of Gudi Padwa [The New Year’s Day of the Shalivahana shak]. And it is celebrated in Maharashtra mostly, but now in other places too. It is said that it is a very auspicious day. Whatever work is done on that day it is fruitful. But whatever is the reason is as per worldly beliefs.The other thing is that, in the dynasty of Shalivahana, there was one person: Babruvahan. He defeated the king Vikramaditya. After that, he started this new calendar called ‘Shalivahana Shak’. According to this calender, today is the first day [of the year].Its importance is major in Maharashtra. To represent the Shalivahanas, they take a Kumbha [and a stick] on which they put a shawl – he was Shalivahana. The Kumbha represents the Kundalini. They tie a shawl [to the stick] and keep a Kumbha on top of it. The meaning is that the Kumbha also represents spirituality. Spirituality is represented by the Kumbha.The Shalivahanas used to call themselves the seven vehicles. They had a lot of faith in Kundalini. Later, they started giving a shawl to the Devi. They were worshipers of the Devi so they called themselves the Shalivahanas. That is how the name got changed. The Shalivahanas who were there, came from Mewar. They were the rulers of Mewar from the Sisodia Dynasty. Their son, of Sisodia dynasty, for some reason, had a disagreement with his uncle. So, he ran away [from Mewar] and went to Maharashtra and then to Chennai.This is how it happened and this is the history of the Shalivahanas. Even I belong to the Shalivahana dynasty. Thousands of years back they had gone to Maharashtra. We are also descendants of the Shalivahan dynasty so our name became ‘Salve’ from Shalv [or Salva]. The person Shalv, who had fought against Bhishma, you must have heard about Shalv. With Bhishma it was Shalv. He helped later the Pandavas. Bhishma had cursed him: he had made a cage around him. Because of the cage he could not come out. So, he cursed Bhishma that, "You too will be trapped in a cage". That happened to Bhishma in the end. He is also of a great dynasty, but thousands of years old dynasty. It was revived later. There was a sage there who had a dream of Shivaji, who said, “Make Bappa Rawal the king of this place”. From there the revival of Shalivahan dynasty took place. I don’t know how from ‘Shalv’ it became ‘Shalivahan’. The queen Padmini was also of the same dynasty.People of the city of Meerut went there to find out, the people were so true to their word, righteous, worshippers of the Devi. They say that, "You cannot even find such type of people there". They were very different people.Everything of theirs was destroyed as they did not compromise. But Jaipur people compromised – first with the Muslims then with the English. So there, there was prosperity. One should not judge people based on prosperity but based on character. Today, this day was started by these Shalivahanas, by Babruvahan. So, it was made slightly earlier to Christ during the time of Vikramaditya. Even now people of Maharashtra believe a lot in it.Here [in the North], it is the ‘Vikram Samvat’ [Vikram calendar]. In Maharashtra, it is the Shalivahana Shak. Even we, probably because I am from Maharashtra, we follow the Shalivahan calendar. According to it, today is a significant day and whatever you desire will be fulfilled.Many blessings to all.

3/20/1999

http://amruta.org/?p=11080

Birthday Felicitations

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Birthday Felicitations

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Evening Program Birthday Puja All this being said on My birthday, really embarrasses Me, because it's all being already scheduled, it was all timed out. It had to happen this way. And the time has come now that this whole world has to take to global understanding. Human beings, I was surprised, are how anxious in those difficult times to get to the truth; because very difficult to carry on with the truth, when there's untruth all along. And the way people get after you when you talk of truth, is also a very hazardous task to fight them those who are just always going to cruelties, to untruth, to aggressiveness. These are all self destructive elements. Also we have other self destructive elements within us, like drinking, smoking, we can say also other things, like drug taking. But people do it. Just they do it. Not that they don't know, but they just do it because of the influence of the time. And that is what is the Kali Yuga, where we destroy ourselves and try to destroy others, and have a kind of a funny temptation for this not only that, also we enjoy all these. All this cruelty, all this aggression we enjoy. ,Now when do we say that the Kali Yuga is over, we should know something about Kali Yuga. Kali was one of the deities, who was supposed to bring in Kali Yuga, and all the problems of Kali Yuga. Firstly it creates illusions, "bhranti". It creates illusions. People will not understand who is a real person, who is an unreal person. So we have many false gurus as you know. We have many false propagandists. We have many people who talk big but there's nothing in them. This is one type of a "bhranti" that Kali Yuga creates. Once, it so happened, that Nala and Damayanti too were in love with each other. They were husband and wife. And Damayanti was separated from Nala, by this horrible thing called 'Kali',. This Kali fellow has being doing this kind of work, used to create problems in the minds of people, disturbing families, disturbing nations, disturbing all the good wishes and the good feelings among human beings. So once this gentleman, one we call Kali was caught up, by Nala, Nala, the one who hated him. And Nala said that, "Why don't you allow me to kill you? You should be killed because you are such a horrible person, you create such bhranti, you create such problems for people. He said, "If you want to kill me, you can kill me but first listen to my importance, to my mahatmya. "What is your mahatmaya? What is your importance?" He said, "My importance is, that when I'll come on this earth, when I'll rule on this earth, I know there will be bhranti, there will be chaos, there will be problems, but people will be so much fed up with that, that they will seek the truth. And those people today who are going to the hills and dales to find out the truth, will be there as ordinary human beings, as householders. And they will find the truth, definitely they'll find the truth". It has been already predicted by Kali himself. So, as you see, lots of chaos is there, lots of problems are there, and when you see people you can't understand, how such people who are educated, intelligent, supposed to be at the helm of affairs, can go about with wrong ideas, with wrong things. The problem is this Kali Yuga. This creates this funny situation, in our lives. Firstly, it creates a situation where a person starts thinking, he's very insecure and he must take to some way, of protecting himself. And then where he goes to, is the place where he will be destroyed, before he knows even that he'll be destroyed. The second point is that we have a great sense of jealousy. That sense of jealousy is even more heighten by this Kali Yuga. We feel jealous for everything, which it shows our inferiority complex, or I don't know what it is? But we start feeling jealous and out of jealousy we start hating people without any rhyme and reason. So many countries have this problem. It's at the top, politicians, they indulge into this kind of a hatred for other people, without understanding what is the achievement of the other person is, how he has achieved, and "Why should I be jealous?" Then we have, another thing is apart from that is, which is the worst thing as Krishna has said, is the temper. Hot tempered people, you see, cannot see the truth, because at the slightest provocation they become hot-tempered and start hitting others and beating others or saying horrible things which should not be said. ,Now, this is another criteria for every Sahaja Yogi to know, how far he is out of this sense of "krodha", is the anger. To be angry it shows that you have no peace within and that you get angry for just to attack another person, which is not necessary. Even keeping quiet you can be very much effective. There's a story about Chinese people that in China there was a fight going on between some people, and they said, "Let's have the cocks fight for us". So they had a cock fight. So one fellow took a cock to a Zen fellow and he said that "What, what should I do, if this cock has to fight?" And he said that, "Very simple, you teach the cock to be absolutely quiet." He said, "I can't do that." He said, "All right, give me the cock." And he taught the cock how to be quiet, whatever is happening, whosoever is attacking him. When he went into the arena, many cocks started attacking him, and he was just standing quietly, watching at everyone. This settled the thing because everybody ran away and they thought he is such a powerful thing, he's not saying anything. So not attacking not reacting that we achieve anything. Actually, reaction is a very great enemy of human beings, that we react to everything. We should not react, we should just become silent. And then this power, which I tell you about, is the power of Paramchaitanya, acts. If you want to react, all right. It says, "Go ahead". But if you leave it and you just become quiet, silent, it acts. It acts so well. It can act sitting down here, it can act somewhere else. It is such a tremendous power. It is such an effective power. It is such an understanding, knowledgeable power, and above all it loves, it loves you. So, when this power comes into existence in a way, I would say it has been always existing, but when effective, in the Krita Yuga it is effective, by that you'll be amazed how things happen. Everybody tells Me, "Mother this miracle has taken place, that miracle has taken place. " So, I know it's not miracle. It is Paramchaitanya, which is doing all the work, all the beautiful things, which is trying to help you and trying to suggest its love. You see, it is something we can't see something we cannot conceive with this mind. But it is beyond the mind that it works. I was surprised in Russia specially, I had to face the scientists. Then the scientists were so, so much equipped, so much deep and they understood so well, even in a place, you can call it a place of great learning, one of the oldest universities, St. Petersburg University. There also I don't know, what made they gave Me the highest reward. For what? I didn't know. But they said, "You are even higher than science." So this they called as cognitive science. They gave a name as cognitive science. "So Mother Your whole knowledge is of cognitive science." Only thing is, if I tell you something then you can verify it. The scientists can verify it. Everybody can find it out if it so or not. But if you put this test to all these false gurus, you will see that they, they don't have any scientific basis. They have no way of giving you any explanation, as to why this is happening and what is happening? I had to face all of them all over the world. And I was surprised they recognized Me. And they said, "Mother this is cognitive science" and like that, they gave Me, everywhere they gave Me awards and things like that. I never knew what is cognitive science is. But this is the knowledge that you get beyond your mind. With your mind you get is your biased, maybe full of jealousy, maybe full of anger. But beyond the mind even you get this knowledge that is absolute. Nobody can challenge it, absolute knowledge. For example, I'll tell you one thing and if you see this model from the right-side to the left-side, there it will look like a 'swastika'. I made a model for them, to show them. And if you see it from the left side on the right side it will be 'AUM' written down. And if you see from down upward, it is a cross, that means, Shri Ganesha, who is on Mooladhara, incarnates as Christ. So, they made a picture, they made a model, the scientists, and they found out that what I said is true and this model really can be shown. I mean one of them is like this, that whatever you know, whatever you say, should be verified by even scientists. ,I do not discard science. Science is amoral, whatever you may say. But once they come to Sahaja Yoga, these scientists, they just get transformed. But scientists, in other countries, I don't know about our country, in other countries have reached such a state, such a state, that they want to know what is beyond. All of them come to India, why? Why don't they go to Japan? Why don't they go to China, why don't they go to America? To find the truth they come to India. So in India this cognitive science existed long time back, of which we are not aware. Like I must say, Indians suddenly became very westernized, after independence somehow, all Gandhiji's ideas, and everything was put on the shelves. So, we, we didn't know what was so great in our country. Such a great "sampada", such a great power existed in this country and they knew so many things, so many things about, some things that science do not know. Now it is for science to find out, whatever they have said it's true or not. I have seen this, it's very simple, if you really know the truth and you tell a scientist he'll get after it and he'll work it out. It's not one example, there can be hundreds I can give you, where I've told them something. They said, "All right". "You verify, you find out, by your scientific methods." And they found it, they found it. There's so many ways of finding it out, you have in science. But they don't know what to find. They are just going on in this one, that one. They are going to the moon, they are going to this thing. That's not the way. First, you find out what you have to find and then see if it is there or not. I was surprised in the West, though we call them very much sort of advanced and all these things, but as far as spirituality is concerned they are nowhere. Their cognitive science faculty is very poor compared to us. But our also is zero because we have all become westernised now. All our ideas are westernised and we take all the knowledge from outside. And even those who want to do something about Indian culture and all that, they are so small, they are so incapable of telling them what it is. It has nothing to do with a fundamentalist idea, nothing of the kind. But it is a fact, it's the truth. it's the reality, which they don't know themselves. They just want to proclaim, the Bhartiya Sanskriti, Indian culture, but there is nothing like that. Because unless and until you are a Realized soul and you have reached that state, till then you do not know anything about the mysteries of Paramchaitanya. So, for every Indian it is very important to take to Sahaja Yoga. Also, for all the people all over the world. Everywhere, as she told you about Russia, the condition is very bad, but still I must say the Sahaja Yogis are very much happy there. The way, when I was there once there was this coup was on, and everybody was worried and we saw lots of tankers passing, this thing and all. So ,I asked these Russian Sahaja Yogis, they are more than I think one lakh, much more than one lakh, I don't know how many they are. So I asked them, "Aren't you worried, what is happening in your country?" He said, "Mother we are not". I said, "Why?" "Because we are in the kingdom of God, why should we worry about Russia?" You see, this also is a temperament that changes. and a person doesn't tell lies, but he really feels that way and that's how he gets rid of all these nonsensical ideas of religion, cast, nation, this, that. It separates human beings from human beings. But artificially you cannot join them. Many people start talking, "No, no, we should not have all these different things, we should have one." You can't, you can't have. Because temperamentally human beings are not made like that. You see, we had a little discussion there in Italy, with other religious groups, and they said, "We, we don't want one religion, one global religion, we don't want." I said, "Why? Because you want to fight, that's why? Why you don't want one religion? One religion is that you are a human being, and you are a wonderful human being, and that you can be one with the Divine. This is your religion which is promised and has to work out. And, but they wouldn't accept. But the people are changing. They are transforming themselves so fast that I am surprised in a country like Turkey, we have two thousands Sahaja Yogis. And they are converting so many. So all these funny ideas that, all these priests, mulaahs and all those have created, are going down. And what is coming up? Even we have lots of these people in India, panditas, and shastras and this and that, they don't know anything I would say, because unless and until they feel the Paramchaitanya, their all talking is baseless. So, all these problems which are created by fighting, by aggressiveness, showing off or whatever you may call, can be corrected with Sahaja Yoga because your attention goes beyond the mind. You go beyond the mind. This Agnya chakra opens and you go beyond the mind and then you are one with this divine power. Once you are one with the divine power, how it works for you in small, small ways. I mean you all have experience, you are all Sahaja Yogis so I need not tell you, but everyone can tell so many examples, by which he knows that it's the Paramchaitanya which has worked it. So, first and foremost thing of every seeker of truth who is a real person, is to first get Self-realization. That is the essence of spirituality, all over the world, even if you read Bible, if you read Koran. Nobody has read them that's the best part of it. And they are trying to say things which are very shameful. which are not there and they are fighting for that. With all these things they have helped us very much to show, that the essence of all these religions is one and out of that will one day people will take to Self-realization. Once they take to Self-realization, then they have to grow. Once they have grown into it, they can see. All of you know, you are all Sahaja Yogis sitting here, you know how much you have gained and how much you have achieved. So, to give Me the credit, I don't know, it's not really true, because, we had great saints in some countries, great saints in this country, in every country, you know we had sufis in so many countries. They all have tried to say, that take your Self-realization. "Know thy Self." They all have said the same thing, "Know thy Self". But nobody is doing that, that's a different point. But actually all those who were Realized souls, whether they were from a Muslim religion or a Hindu religion or a Christian religion, any religion in any country if they were Realized souls, they said the same. Because truth is the same. They said the same thing, "First know thy Self" and then you will know the truth. So, this is the essence of our life that we have to know ourselves. Once we know ourselves, you are beyond everything, because what happens that you become like an ocean becomes in this, like a drop becomes in the ocean. How it disappears... In the same thing it will happen. And once it happens, you'll be surprised, that you are really one with everyone. Who is the other? You are one with everyone, that's how we find in Sahaja Yoga. It's a, many people say, it's a big charisma it's big this thing. Nothing of the kind. You have your own Kundalini, you have own possibility, of becoming Self-realized. Now, that is the blessing of Kali Yuga. In the Kali Yuga, this was going to happen and that's what it is happening. That's why thousands of you are getting Realization. Before, only one would get from one person, and those gurus were also very strict, you know, they would not give it to some ordinary person. They used to take them to task and judge them first. And then they would give Realization. But in Sahaja Yoga we don't do anything. You just have to get into Sahaja Yoga, that's all. Now, as it is, I'm surprised that how intellectuals and this and that try to find faults, without knowing that they don't know anything. They have to become Self-Realized people. Then, whatever they will do, that will be, definitely very constructive, very helpful, and peace giving, and harmony giving to the whole society. But first of all it has to be within you. If it is not within you, how can you give it to others. I've been watching how Sahaja Yoga has grown from one person to all these, so many of them. And we have so many others, in other countries also. This all has shown that the time has come for the whole world to change. And this transformation is the most important thing, what we should aim at. Forget about everything. Forget about politics, economics, this, that, but get transformation. Once you are transformed, you know how to do the right thing, how to do the things that will help you and the society. All these you already have seen in your life, and whatever is happened, is none of My only effort but there have been so many who have been doing this. Only if you can say anything is Me, is that I found out a way by which en masse Realization can be given. Many people can get it. Because any discovery, supposing there's electricity and if it cannot be used en masse, it is useless. So that's the only thing I've been able to achieve in My life, that en masse Realization can be given. And that has happen, as you know very well. It's very simple. And once one person gets Realization, he can go and give Realization to others. Now first, they were telling Me, "Mother, we are in seventy countries working". Now they are telling Me, "We are in eighty countries". How? Somebody went there and he did in that country, he went there, he did in other country. So, just imagine how simple it has become. How simple it is for Me. At this age I can't go to seventy, eighty countries, but it has passed there, it has gone there. It has given the blessings of the Divine. So, while you are here, you should know here only we had Nizzamuddin Aulia. Now Nizzamuddin was here and here we had Damdam Sahib. All these were great saints. And they talked of love, they talked of understanding, but talk becomes talk for them because the others who are listening, have no understanding about. So we are recipients of their blessings, their beauties and their greatness, is only when we are Sahaja Yogis, or we are Realized souls. So, I bless you all with whole My heart and with whole My soul and I have been trying to work out in a way, that I was surprised, in America, it is spreading so fast, otherwise all the false gurus have been to America. But now it is something great that is happening, suddenly, so, I told them I'll come and stay in America, for about two two months at least, for their satisfaction. Now, staying anywhere is not so important. What is important is that people should understand, they should humble down and they should know, "No, we still we have to know the truth". If once this humility comes in, it will work out. It will work out in any person, anyone, whatever may be the cast, religion, race, makes no difference. So, may God bless you again and again, and I bless you from My heart. Thank you very much for this felicitation. Thank you.

Evening Program Birthday Puja All this being said on My birthday, really embarrasses Me, because it's all being already scheduled, it was all timed out. It had to happen this way. And the time has come now that this whole world has to take to global understanding. Human beings, I was surprised, are how anxious in those difficult times to get to the truth; because very difficult to carry on with the truth, when there's untruth all along. And the way people get after you when you talk of truth, is also a very hazardous task to fight them those who are just always going to cruelties, to untruth, to aggressiveness. These are all self destructive elements. Also we have other self destructive elements within us, like drinking, smoking, we can say also other things, like drug taking. But people do it. Just they do it. Not that they don't know, but they just do it because of the influence of the time. And that is what is the Kali Yuga, where we destroy ourselves and try to destroy others, and have a kind of a funny temptation for this not only that, also we enjoy all these. All this cruelty, all this aggression we enjoy. ,Now when do we say that the Kali Yuga is over, we should know something about Kali Yuga. Kali was one of the deities, who was supposed to bring in Kali Yuga, and all the problems of Kali Yuga. Firstly it creates illusions, "bhranti". It creates illusions. People will not understand who is a real person, who is an unreal person. So we have many false gurus as you know. We have many false propagandists. We have many people who talk big but there's nothing in them. This is one type of a "bhranti" that Kali Yuga creates. Once, it so happened, that Nala and Damayanti too were in love with each other. They were husband and wife. And Damayanti was separated from Nala, by this horrible thing called 'Kali',. This Kali fellow has being doing this kind of work, used to create problems in the minds of people, disturbing families, disturbing nations, disturbing all the good wishes and the good feelings among human beings. So once this gentleman, one we call Kali was caught up, by Nala, Nala, the one who hated him. And Nala said that, "Why don't you allow me to kill you? You should be killed because you are such a horrible person, you create such bhranti, you create such problems for people. He said, "If you want to kill me, you can kill me but first listen to my importance, to my mahatmya. "What is your mahatmaya? What is your importance?" He said, "My importance is, that when I'll come on this earth, when I'll rule on this earth, I know there will be bhranti, there will be chaos, there will be problems, but people will be so much fed up with that, that they will seek the truth. And those people today who are going to the hills and dales to find out the truth, will be there as ordinary human beings, as householders. And they will find the truth, definitely they'll find the truth". It has been already predicted by Kali himself. So, as you see, lots of chaos is there, lots of problems are there, and when you see people you can't understand, how such people who are educated, intelligent, supposed to be at the helm of affairs, can go about with wrong ideas, with wrong things. The problem is this Kali Yuga. This creates this funny situation, in our lives. Firstly, it creates a situation where a person starts thinking, he's very insecure and he must take to some way, of protecting himself. And then where he goes to, is the place where he will be destroyed, before he knows even that he'll be destroyed. The second point is that we have a great sense of jealousy. That sense of jealousy is even more heighten by this Kali Yuga. We feel jealous for everything, which it shows our inferiority complex, or I don't know what it is? But we start feeling jealous and out of jealousy we start hating people without any rhyme and reason. So many countries have this problem. It's at the top, politicians, they indulge into this kind of a hatred for other people, without understanding what is the achievement of the other person is, how he has achieved, and "Why should I be jealous?" Then we have, another thing is apart from that is, which is the worst thing as Krishna has said, is the temper. Hot tempered people, you see, cannot see the truth, because at the slightest provocation they become hot-tempered and start hitting others and beating others or saying horrible things which should not be said. ,Now, this is another criteria for every Sahaja Yogi to know, how far he is out of this sense of "krodha", is the anger. To be angry it shows that you have no peace within and that you get angry for just to attack another person, which is not necessary. Even keeping quiet you can be very much effective. There's a story about Chinese people that in China there was a fight going on between some people, and they said, "Let's have the cocks fight for us". So they had a cock fight. So one fellow took a cock to a Zen fellow and he said that "What, what should I do, if this cock has to fight?" And he said that, "Very simple, you teach the cock to be absolutely quiet." He said, "I can't do that." He said, "All right, give me the cock." And he taught the cock how to be quiet, whatever is happening, whosoever is attacking him. When he went into the arena, many cocks started attacking him, and he was just standing quietly, watching at everyone. This settled the thing because everybody ran away and they thought he is such a powerful thing, he's not saying anything. So not attacking not reacting that we achieve anything. Actually, reaction is a very great enemy of human beings, that we react to everything. We should not react, we should just become silent. And then this power, which I tell you about, is the power of Paramchaitanya, acts. If you want to react, all right. It says, "Go ahead". But if you leave it and you just become quiet, silent, it acts. It acts so well. It can act sitting down here, it can act somewhere else. It is such a tremendous power. It is such an effective power. It is such an understanding, knowledgeable power, and above all it loves, it loves you. So, when this power comes into existence in a way, I would say it has been always existing, but when effective, in the Krita Yuga it is effective, by that you'll be amazed how things happen. Everybody tells Me, "Mother this miracle has taken place, that miracle has taken place. " So, I know it's not miracle. It is Paramchaitanya, which is doing all the work, all the beautiful things, which is trying to help you and trying to suggest its love. You see, it is something we can't see something we cannot conceive with this mind. But it is beyond the mind that it works. I was surprised in Russia specially, I had to face the scientists. Then the scientists were so, so much equipped, so much deep and they understood so well, even in a place, you can call it a place of great learning, one of the oldest universities, St. Petersburg University. There also I don't know, what made they gave Me the highest reward. For what? I didn't know. But they said, "You are even higher than science." So this they called as cognitive science. They gave a name as cognitive science. "So Mother Your whole knowledge is of cognitive science." Only thing is, if I tell you something then you can verify it. The scientists can verify it. Everybody can find it out if it so or not. But if you put this test to all these false gurus, you will see that they, they don't have any scientific basis. They have no way of giving you any explanation, as to why this is happening and what is happening? I had to face all of them all over the world. And I was surprised they recognized Me. And they said, "Mother this is cognitive science" and like that, they gave Me, everywhere they gave Me awards and things like that. I never knew what is cognitive science is. But this is the knowledge that you get beyond your mind. With your mind you get is your biased, maybe full of jealousy, maybe full of anger. But beyond the mind even you get this knowledge that is absolute. Nobody can challenge it, absolute knowledge. For example, I'll tell you one thing and if you see this model from the right-side to the left-side, there it will look like a 'swastika'. I made a model for them, to show them. And if you see it from the left side on the right side it will be 'AUM' written down. And if you see from down upward, it is a cross, that means, Shri Ganesha, who is on Mooladhara, incarnates as Christ. So, they made a picture, they made a model, the scientists, and they found out that what I said is true and this model really can be shown. I mean one of them is like this, that whatever you know, whatever you say, should be verified by even scientists. ,I do not discard science. Science is amoral, whatever you may say. But once they come to Sahaja Yoga, these scientists, they just get transformed. But scientists, in other countries, I don't know about our country, in other countries have reached such a state, such a state, that they want to know what is beyond. All of them come to India, why? Why don't they go to Japan? Why don't they go to China, why don't they go to America? To find the truth they come to India. So in India this cognitive science existed long time back, of which we are not aware. Like I must say, Indians suddenly became very westernized, after independence somehow, all Gandhiji's ideas, and everything was put on the shelves. So, we, we didn't know what was so great in our country. Such a great "sampada", such a great power existed in this country and they knew so many things, so many things about, some things that science do not know. Now it is for science to find out, whatever they have said it's true or not. I have seen this, it's very simple, if you really know the truth and you tell a scientist he'll get after it and he'll work it out. It's not one example, there can be hundreds I can give you, where I've told them something. They said, "All right". "You verify, you find out, by your scientific methods." And they found it, they found it. There's so many ways of finding it out, you have in science. But they don't know what to find. They are just going on in this one, that one. They are going to the moon, they are going to this thing. That's not the way. First, you find out what you have to find and then see if it is there or not. I was surprised in the West, though we call them very much sort of advanced and all these things, but as far as spirituality is concerned they are nowhere. Their cognitive science faculty is very poor compared to us. But our also is zero because we have all become westernised now. All our ideas are westernised and we take all the knowledge from outside. And even those who want to do something about Indian culture and all that, they are so small, they are so incapable of telling them what it is. It has nothing to do with a fundamentalist idea, nothing of the kind. But it is a fact, it's the truth. it's the reality, which they don't know themselves. They just want to proclaim, the Bhartiya Sanskriti, Indian culture, but there is nothing like that. Because unless and until you are a Realized soul and you have reached that state, till then you do not know anything about the mysteries of Paramchaitanya. So, for every Indian it is very important to take to Sahaja Yoga. Also, for all the people all over the world. Everywhere, as she told you about Russia, the condition is very bad, but still I must say the Sahaja Yogis are very much happy there. The way, when I was there once there was this coup was on, and everybody was worried and we saw lots of tankers passing, this thing and all. So ,I asked these Russian Sahaja Yogis, they are more than I think one lakh, much more than one lakh, I don't know how many they are. So I asked them, "Aren't you worried, what is happening in your country?" He said, "Mother we are not". I said, "Why?" "Because we are in the kingdom of God, why should we worry about Russia?" You see, this also is a temperament that changes. and a person doesn't tell lies, but he really feels that way and that's how he gets rid of all these nonsensical ideas of religion, cast, nation, this, that. It separates human beings from human beings. But artificially you cannot join them. Many people start talking, "No, no, we should not have all these different things, we should have one." You can't, you can't have. Because temperamentally human beings are not made like that. You see, we had a little discussion there in Italy, with other religious groups, and they said, "We, we don't want one religion, one global religion, we don't want." I said, "Why? Because you want to fight, that's why? Why you don't want one religion? One religion is that you are a human being, and you are a wonderful human being, and that you can be one with the Divine. This is your religion which is promised and has to work out. And, but they wouldn't accept. But the people are changing. They are transforming themselves so fast that I am surprised in a country like Turkey, we have two thousands Sahaja Yogis. And they are converting so many. So all these funny ideas that, all these priests, mulaahs and all those have created, are going down. And what is coming up? Even we have lots of these people in India, panditas, and shastras and this and that, they don't know anything I would say, because unless and until they feel the Paramchaitanya, their all talking is baseless. So, all these problems which are created by fighting, by aggressiveness, showing off or whatever you may call, can be corrected with Sahaja Yoga because your attention goes beyond the mind. You go beyond the mind. This Agnya chakra opens and you go beyond the mind and then you are one with this divine power. Once you are one with the divine power, how it works for you in small, small ways. I mean you all have experience, you are all Sahaja Yogis so I need not tell you, but everyone can tell so many examples, by which he knows that it's the Paramchaitanya which has worked it. So, first and foremost thing of every seeker of truth who is a real person, is to first get Self-realization. That is the essence of spirituality, all over the world, even if you read Bible, if you read Koran. Nobody has read them that's the best part of it. And they are trying to say things which are very shameful. which are not there and they are fighting for that. With all these things they have helped us very much to show, that the essence of all these religions is one and out of that will one day people will take to Self-realization. Once they take to Self-realization, then they have to grow. Once they have grown into it, they can see. All of you know, you are all Sahaja Yogis sitting here, you know how much you have gained and how much you have achieved. So, to give Me the credit, I don't know, it's not really true, because, we had great saints in some countries, great saints in this country, in every country, you know we had sufis in so many countries. They all have tried to say, that take your Self-realization. "Know thy Self." They all have said the same thing, "Know thy Self". But nobody is doing that, that's a different point. But actually all those who were Realized souls, whether they were from a Muslim religion or a Hindu religion or a Christian religion, any religion in any country if they were Realized souls, they said the same. Because truth is the same. They said the same thing, "First know thy Self" and then you will know the truth. So, this is the essence of our life that we have to know ourselves. Once we know ourselves, you are beyond everything, because what happens that you become like an ocean becomes in this, like a drop becomes in the ocean. How it disappears... In the same thing it will happen. And once it happens, you'll be surprised, that you are really one with everyone. Who is the other? You are one with everyone, that's how we find in Sahaja Yoga. It's a, many people say, it's a big charisma it's big this thing. Nothing of the kind. You have your own Kundalini, you have own possibility, of becoming Self-realized. Now, that is the blessing of Kali Yuga. In the Kali Yuga, this was going to happen and that's what it is happening. That's why thousands of you are getting Realization. Before, only one would get from one person, and those gurus were also very strict, you know, they would not give it to some ordinary person. They used to take them to task and judge them first. And then they would give Realization. But in Sahaja Yoga we don't do anything. You just have to get into Sahaja Yoga, that's all. Now, as it is, I'm surprised that how intellectuals and this and that try to find faults, without knowing that they don't know anything. They have to become Self-Realized people. Then, whatever they will do, that will be, definitely very constructive, very helpful, and peace giving, and harmony giving to the whole society. But first of all it has to be within you. If it is not within you, how can you give it to others. I've been watching how Sahaja Yoga has grown from one person to all these, so many of them. And we have so many others, in other countries also. This all has shown that the time has come for the whole world to change. And this transformation is the most important thing, what we should aim at. Forget about everything. Forget about politics, economics, this, that, but get transformation. Once you are transformed, you know how to do the right thing, how to do the things that will help you and the society. All these you already have seen in your life, and whatever is happened, is none of My only effort but there have been so many who have been doing this. Only if you can say anything is Me, is that I found out a way by which en masse Realization can be given. Many people can get it. Because any discovery, supposing there's electricity and if it cannot be used en masse, it is useless. So that's the only thing I've been able to achieve in My life, that en masse Realization can be given. And that has happen, as you know very well. It's very simple. And once one person gets Realization, he can go and give Realization to others. Now first, they were telling Me, "Mother, we are in seventy countries working". Now they are telling Me, "We are in eighty countries". How? Somebody went there and he did in that country, he went there, he did in other country. So, just imagine how simple it has become. How simple it is for Me. At this age I can't go to seventy, eighty countries, but it has passed there, it has gone there. It has given the blessings of the Divine. So, while you are here, you should know here only we had Nizzamuddin Aulia. Now Nizzamuddin was here and here we had Damdam Sahib. All these were great saints. And they talked of love, they talked of understanding, but talk becomes talk for them because the others who are listening, have no understanding about. So we are recipients of their blessings, their beauties and their greatness, is only when we are Sahaja Yogis, or we are Realized souls. So, I bless you all with whole My heart and with whole My soul and I have been trying to work out in a way, that I was surprised, in America, it is spreading so fast, otherwise all the false gurus have been to America. But now it is something great that is happening, suddenly, so, I told them I'll come and stay in America, for about two two months at least, for their satisfaction. Now, staying anywhere is not so important. What is important is that people should understand, they should humble down and they should know, "No, we still we have to know the truth". If once this humility comes in, it will work out. It will work out in any person, anyone, whatever may be the cast, religion, race, makes no difference. So, may God bless you again and again, and I bless you from My heart. Thank you very much for this felicitation. Thank you.

3/21/1999

http://amruta.org/?p=4147

Birthday Puja: We all should be together, whatever may be the differences

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Birthday puja (Hindi). New Delhi (India), 21 March 1999. Hindi Part (for subtitles) (Translation from Hindi) After seeing this love, my heart is filled. And I am thinking that love is such a big power by which so many people are attracted and become happy. This is such a surprising thing. In this Kali Yuga, no one would have seen this greatness of love. I think that after seeing this, all of you should learn to increase your love. And this thing is very easy. And you can do it in this way – by meditating morning and evening, then the bad thoughts in your mind which cause jealousy and anger and you get hurt by small things, all such thoughts will end. And after that what’s left, it’s Nirmal prem. With this love you can give the whole world a new life. (English starts here) I have told them in Hindi language that love, you can see one person’s love manifested in so many eyes here. And when I saw the enthusiasm also My heart got filled with great love, greater love. So one can see how powerful is this love. All kinds of bad feelings, negative thinking and also self-destructive elements can be corrected and controlled very simply in Sahaja Yoga, if you with sincere heart meditate morning and evening, twice. That time you shouldn’t see your watches of course, but enjoy, enjoy your meditation. That will give you such a strength to love others, to forgive others; instead of you feeling bad for small, small things, you feeling irritated because you think your self-respect is challenged, or else sometimes we become aggressive towards some people, very aggressive, for no fault of theirs. Best thing is to see the vibrations of another person. If the vibrations are bad, no use fighting, it will create more confusions. A person who has very bad vibrations, you can’t fight with that person, you cannot control that person. Or a person who is too much of self-importance, you should not try to pacify him or sort of try to negotiate with him, or also sometimes people try to pamper his vanity. By doing that you are spoiling him more. So the best thing is to show your love in very sweet and different manner. I’ll give you an example which I’ve given many a times, that I went to see this Gagangarh Maharaj who was living on a very high mountain, and there was no way of going by car or anything, and I had to walk. So everybody said, “Mother, why should You go there after all?” I said, “You see the vibrations. Good vibrations coming, alright? That’s why I’m going.” But he had told many people about Me, and he said that, “Adi Shakti is born in Bombay, why do you come to me?” So they told us. So I said, “I must see this man,” and that’s how I went to his place to meet him. Now, he’s supposed to control the rain. He could control the rain. So he was sitting there on a stone and he was moving his head with great agitation when I reached there. And it was raining so heavily that I went up to his place when I was completely drenched. So I went inside the cave where he used to live, and he came back with great anger towards the rain. So he said, “Mother, why did You not allow me to control the rain?” I said, “I didn’t do that.” “No, You did; because I can always control the rain, and You were coming all the way with my invitation, and this rain should not have misbehaved.” I said, “No, no, he didn’t misbehave.” So what happened, he was quite in a temper, you know. I said, “You settle down, I’ll tell you what has happened. See, you have bought a sari for Me and you are a sanyasi, and I won’t take a sari from a sanyasi, so the rain has made it convenient. Now it’s all drenched so I’ll have to take your sari.” Immediately, you see, he felt terrible love for Me, started crying and he fell at My feet. And then he said, “Mother, now I know what is the greatness of love, how it takes you away from mundane things and dry behaviour, and takes you to a place where you can enjoy the showers of love.” This is one of the stories I am telling you. But the main thing behind the whole episode is this, that you should try your love, your tricks of pure love, pure love, and it works. And you must learn, gradually you will learn how to try. You should not give up. Some people are very difficult, I agree – very, very difficult. But at least try with people who are not so difficult. And you’ll be amazed that you’ll have a good company and lots of friends and friendship, as we have here now in Sahaja Yoga. First time when I came to Delhi I got such a fright of this place, because there were very few Sahaja yogis and they brought – I don’t know why they wanted to do My puja, might be Bombay people must have told them, something – and they brought kum-kum and everything in a plastic little, little bottles – oh, my! I really shrunk, you know, with their ignorance. I said, “Now what to do? What will happen?” But today, see, same Delhi which has become so great and so beautiful, and so enthusiastic. I saw them with their flags and I didn’t know there’s such a procession of flags will be here, though we had once or twice I think, in Cabella. But how they were enjoying each other! It’s really remarkable. If you can enjoy love, you won’t enjoy anything else but love for other people, and not for yourself. On the contrary you will see that your body, your mind, your thoughts, everything are directed towards creating love for others, and not for yourself. The whole attitude changes. Like in the darkness you can’t see anything, but even there’s a small light, it spreads all over. Nobody tells the light that, “You have to spread the light all over,” but it does. In the same way you all are enlightened people, you are all enlightened with love; and the light of this love spreads automatically, spontaneously, sahaj. I was also very much enamoured the way our Yuva Shakti was dancing and enjoying. I think it’s a very great blessing, because these days our young children, our young people are getting astray. They are not so badly off as in other countries, but quite a big trend is going on to spoil them and to make them a, what you’d call a very Westernized, spoiled personality. But now I saw so many of these dancing together, forgetting their caste, creed, everything, and enjoying each other’s company. This is something has to happen in this country and in every country; that we should all feel oneness and enjoy the oneness with each other. If we do not enjoy we are like a drop outside the ocean, which can be dried any time. But if you are a part and a parcel of that ocean, then what happens is that every movement of the ocean you carry with you, and you are part and parcel of that ocean absolutely, because you do not have separate identity. All these things that make a separate identity in our society or in our culture or in our behaviour, in personal lives, all should be completely curbed down. And this will settle many problems, from family life to national life, to international life. So we should curb down all such feelings of separated-ness, that we should have a separate house, separate state, separate nation. Gradually all nations will become one, I am sure of that; because great times are coming, and so many people at the helm of affairs will take to Sahaja Yoga. Once they take to Sahaja Yog, then things will be very much different. Today it is not with them, Sahaja Yoga is not with them. They have no knowledge of our great movement of love, so they want to have separate of everything. They don’t know tomorrow they will be scorched away with the heat around, or maybe with the rain they’ll be washed away, or maybe that the Mother Earth might absorb them. So we all should be together, whatever may be the differences. In different families we are born – after all, all cannot be born in one family. But now you belong to Sahaja Yoga family, and this Sahaja Yoga family is one. It doesn’t believe in having separate existence or separate speciality. Weare all one with each other, and we don’t care what sort of differences are outside. I was really very much touched, because now the new year is coming with a new challenge for all of us which we have to accept, that Kali Yuga is over and we have to establish the Satya Yuga; for which all of you from every country should have thinking, how you can do it in your country and in other countries. What are the problems in another country? Put your attention outside, not inside this way that you should say that I need this, I need that, I need that. We should know what other people need: what is their need, what the people in our society, in our nation, in our world require? Better write them down: what do they require? It’s better, it will work; might be, it might be corrected. It’s very important for Sahaja yogis to sit down and write down what the world needs, and what is to be done. It will be a nice idea for all of you to really aspire for that kind of homogeneous society that we have here today. And we’ll be one day, you will be surprised that we will be the ones who will guide and lead the rest of the people with our love, attention and care. So it’s very important time, and at this time we should all think on those lines. Thank you very much. May God bless you.

Birthday puja (Hindi). New Delhi (India), 21 March 1999. Hindi Part (for subtitles) (Translation from Hindi) After seeing this love, my heart is filled. And I am thinking that love is such a big power by which so many people are attracted and become happy. This is such a surprising thing. In this Kali Yuga, no one would have seen this greatness of love. I think that after seeing this, all of you should learn to increase your love. And this thing is very easy. And you can do it in this way – by meditating morning and evening, then the bad thoughts in your mind which cause jealousy and anger and you get hurt by small things, all such thoughts will end. And after that what’s left, it’s Nirmal prem. With this love you can give the whole world a new life. (English starts here) I have told them in Hindi language that love, you can see one person’s love manifested in so many eyes here. And when I saw the enthusiasm also My heart got filled with great love, greater love. So one can see how powerful is this love. All kinds of bad feelings, negative thinking and also self-destructive elements can be corrected and controlled very simply in Sahaja Yoga, if you with sincere heart meditate morning and evening, twice. That time you shouldn’t see your watches of course, but enjoy, enjoy your meditation. That will give you such a strength to love others, to forgive others; instead of you feeling bad for small, small things, you feeling irritated because you think your self-respect is challenged, or else sometimes we become aggressive towards some people, very aggressive, for no fault of theirs. Best thing is to see the vibrations of another person. If the vibrations are bad, no use fighting, it will create more confusions. A person who has very bad vibrations, you can’t fight with that person, you cannot control that person. Or a person who is too much of self-importance, you should not try to pacify him or sort of try to negotiate with him, or also sometimes people try to pamper his vanity. By doing that you are spoiling him more. So the best thing is to show your love in very sweet and different manner. I’ll give you an example which I’ve given many a times, that I went to see this Gagangarh Maharaj who was living on a very high mountain, and there was no way of going by car or anything, and I had to walk. So everybody said, “Mother, why should You go there after all?” I said, “You see the vibrations. Good vibrations coming, alright? That’s why I’m going.” But he had told many people about Me, and he said that, “Adi Shakti is born in Bombay, why do you come to me?” So they told us. So I said, “I must see this man,” and that’s how I went to his place to meet him. Now, he’s supposed to control the rain. He could control the rain. So he was sitting there on a stone and he was moving his head with great agitation when I reached there. And it was raining so heavily that I went up to his place when I was completely drenched. So I went inside the cave where he used to live, and he came back with great anger towards the rain. So he said, “Mother, why did You not allow me to control the rain?” I said, “I didn’t do that.” “No, You did; because I can always control the rain, and You were coming all the way with my invitation, and this rain should not have misbehaved.” I said, “No, no, he didn’t misbehave.” So what happened, he was quite in a temper, you know. I said, “You settle down, I’ll tell you what has happened. See, you have bought a sari for Me and you are a sanyasi, and I won’t take a sari from a sanyasi, so the rain has made it convenient. Now it’s all drenched so I’ll have to take your sari.” Immediately, you see, he felt terrible love for Me, started crying and he fell at My feet. And then he said, “Mother, now I know what is the greatness of love, how it takes you away from mundane things and dry behaviour, and takes you to a place where you can enjoy the showers of love.” This is one of the stories I am telling you. But the main thing behind the whole episode is this, that you should try your love, your tricks of pure love, pure love, and it works. And you must learn, gradually you will learn how to try. You should not give up. Some people are very difficult, I agree – very, very difficult. But at least try with people who are not so difficult. And you’ll be amazed that you’ll have a good company and lots of friends and friendship, as we have here now in Sahaja Yoga. First time when I came to Delhi I got such a fright of this place, because there were very few Sahaja yogis and they brought – I don’t know why they wanted to do My puja, might be Bombay people must have told them, something – and they brought kum-kum and everything in a plastic little, little bottles – oh, my! I really shrunk, you know, with their ignorance. I said, “Now what to do? What will happen?” But today, see, same Delhi which has become so great and so beautiful, and so enthusiastic. I saw them with their flags and I didn’t know there’s such a procession of flags will be here, though we had once or twice I think, in Cabella. But how they were enjoying each other! It’s really remarkable. If you can enjoy love, you won’t enjoy anything else but love for other people, and not for yourself. On the contrary you will see that your body, your mind, your thoughts, everything are directed towards creating love for others, and not for yourself. The whole attitude changes. Like in the darkness you can’t see anything, but even there’s a small light, it spreads all over. Nobody tells the light that, “You have to spread the light all over,” but it does. In the same way you all are enlightened people, you are all enlightened with love; and the light of this love spreads automatically, spontaneously, sahaj. I was also very much enamoured the way our Yuva Shakti was dancing and enjoying. I think it’s a very great blessing, because these days our young children, our young people are getting astray. They are not so badly off as in other countries, but quite a big trend is going on to spoil them and to make them a, what you’d call a very Westernized, spoiled personality. But now I saw so many of these dancing together, forgetting their caste, creed, everything, and enjoying each other’s company. This is something has to happen in this country and in every country; that we should all feel oneness and enjoy the oneness with each other. If we do not enjoy we are like a drop outside the ocean, which can be dried any time. But if you are a part and a parcel of that ocean, then what happens is that every movement of the ocean you carry with you, and you are part and parcel of that ocean absolutely, because you do not have separate identity. All these things that make a separate identity in our society or in our culture or in our behaviour, in personal lives, all should be completely curbed down. And this will settle many problems, from family life to national life, to international life. So we should curb down all such feelings of separated-ness, that we should have a separate house, separate state, separate nation. Gradually all nations will become one, I am sure of that; because great times are coming, and so many people at the helm of affairs will take to Sahaja Yoga. Once they take to Sahaja Yog, then things will be very much different. Today it is not with them, Sahaja Yoga is not with them. They have no knowledge of our great movement of love, so they want to have separate of everything. They don’t know tomorrow they will be scorched away with the heat around, or maybe with the rain they’ll be washed away, or maybe that the Mother Earth might absorb them. So we all should be together, whatever may be the differences. In different families we are born – after all, all cannot be born in one family. But now you belong to Sahaja Yoga family, and this Sahaja Yoga family is one. It doesn’t believe in having separate existence or separate speciality. Weare all one with each other, and we don’t care what sort of differences are outside. I was really very much touched, because now the new year is coming with a new challenge for all of us which we have to accept, that Kali Yuga is over and we have to establish the Satya Yuga; for which all of you from every country should have thinking, how you can do it in your country and in other countries. What are the problems in another country? Put your attention outside, not inside this way that you should say that I need this, I need that, I need that. We should know what other people need: what is their need, what the people in our society, in our nation, in our world require? Better write them down: what do they require? It’s better, it will work; might be, it might be corrected. It’s very important for Sahaja yogis to sit down and write down what the world needs, and what is to be done. It will be a nice idea for all of you to really aspire for that kind of homogeneous society that we have here today. And we’ll be one day, you will be surprised that we will be the ones who will guide and lead the rest of the people with our love, attention and care. So it’s very important time, and at this time we should all think on those lines. Thank you very much. May God bless you.

3/25/1999

http://amruta.org/?p=12528

Public Program and Music, Velechi Hallk

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Pune

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3/30/1999

http://amruta.org/?p=20112

Evening Program, Eve of Shri Hanumana Puja

India

Pune

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Evening Program

English, Hindi

Evening Program, Eve of Shri Hanumana Puja – Pune (India), Tuesday, March 30th 1999 This is a great desire of My father being fulfilled, that he wanted to start a music academy for all the foreigners especially. Because it seems that our knowledge of classical music is very deep and is of a global nature and so we got lots of students from all over the world who are studying music. Most surprising was the way they picked up our classical music. For example, somebody starts singing Malkauns Raag within three months who doesn’t know even the Sa Re Ga Ma of Indian music...[Shri Mataji laughs] It’s such a remarkable thing. Then there’s another one who plays sarod ...I’m really surprised in three months how could they do so much and I have been trying to analyse what sort of personalities they have that they grow so fast - even in tabla, harmonium - in every way, how they have become so competent in such a short time. Is really remarkable. [sentence in Hindi] [0:1:15 – 1:09:23 - Performance of several Raags and Bhajans by students of The Late PK Salve Academy of Fine Arts & Music, Nagpur] [1:09:24 – 1:16:17 Hindi apart from one line in English at 1:15:54 – ‘I thank you all on their behalf’] Talk end of Vocal Concert – Meena Patharpekar - Pune, India [From 55:11- 56:41] I think you give her a standing ovation. [audience applauds] [Shri Mataji speaks a few sentences in Hindi to the singer] She is... I don’t know how to praise her, but she’s one of the greatest musicians of our country. You have heard Abdul Karim Khan’s records and all that, and they are of the same Gharana., called as Kirana Gharana. And not only that, but she has excelled everyone. I have heard her Jog [name of Raag], I cannot forget that. She’s a great, great singer and I wish her a great life and long life and all the blessings that are possible.

Evening Program, Eve of Shri Hanumana Puja – Pune (India), Tuesday, March 30th 1999 This is a great desire of My father being fulfilled, that he wanted to start a music academy for all the foreigners especially. Because it seems that our knowledge of classical music is very deep and is of a global nature and so we got lots of students from all over the world who are studying music. Most surprising was the way they picked up our classical music. For example, somebody starts singing Malkauns Raag within three months who doesn’t know even the Sa Re Ga Ma of Indian music...[Shri Mataji laughs] It’s such a remarkable thing. Then there’s another one who plays sarod ...I’m really surprised in three months how could they do so much and I have been trying to analyse what sort of personalities they have that they grow so fast - even in tabla, harmonium - in every way, how they have become so competent in such a short time. Is really remarkable. [sentence in Hindi] [0:1:15 – 1:09:23 - Performance of several Raags and Bhajans by students of The Late PK Salve Academy of Fine Arts & Music, Nagpur] [1:09:24 – 1:16:17 Hindi apart from one line in English at 1:15:54 – ‘I thank you all on their behalf’] Talk end of Vocal Concert – Meena Patharpekar - Pune, India [From 55:11- 56:41] I think you give her a standing ovation. [audience applauds] [Shri Mataji speaks a few sentences in Hindi to the singer] She is... I don’t know how to praise her, but she’s one of the greatest musicians of our country. You have heard Abdul Karim Khan’s records and all that, and they are of the same Gharana., called as Kirana Gharana. And not only that, but she has excelled everyone. I have heard her Jog [name of Raag], I cannot forget that. She’s a great, great singer and I wish her a great life and long life and all the blessings that are possible.

3/31/1999

http://amruta.org/?p=4094

Shri Hanumana Puja

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Shri Hanuman puja. Pune (India), 31 March 1999. Today we are celebrating Jayanti (Birth Anniversary) of Hanumanji. What should we say about Hanumanji! He was so powerful and wise. He was equally devoted and dedicated. Generally such a powerful person becomes right sided. He considers Himself so dignified that He doesn't give any importance to anyone in His comparison. But Hanumanji is a special Deity. A special deity full of qualities that as much strong He was as much powerful He was as much was His devotion. An embodiment of balanced strength He had as much power, as He had devotion. How did He maintain this balance? And was steady in it is worth understanding. In Sahaja yoga, when we are enlightened and in Sahaja yoga we get many powers simultaneously, we get balance. We love others. With love and with the help of the power of Love we get busy in our work and go on doing our work. In this way, Shri Hanumanji was very powerful. He had Divine powers He had NAVADHA (Special) powers. which are called GARIMA, LAGHUMA. He could become as big as He wanted to be or as minute as He wanted to be and as small as an atom. All these powers He got through His devotion. It means that devotion and power are both the same. He who has power and doesn't have devotion, becomes a Rakshasa (Demon). And He who has devotion but doesn't have power, becomes mad. Between both these, he who is in the central path attains this state which you may call power, or devotion. Each part of his body is made of that. Because of His this special feature today we worship Bajrang Bali in our motherland as well as in foreign countries. I am so surprised that the young boys, children of foreign countries, when they draw any picture first of all they draw Hanumanji’s picture. Next, His special quality was that He was half man and half monkey. Means, it was a perfect combination of animal and human being. So within us, whatever we have lost in our evolution in that, the element of love and attachment that was what he took with him. For example, you see that guru's enamored path is believed in which of guru's which creatures are considered as attendants. That is why they consider dogs. A dog has that quality that like a guru's disciple is fully dedicated and has no other master except his guru and has no other thought. Every time, he sacrifices his life for his master. In the same way, it should be understood that a creature who has been brought up in evolution when he comes in contact with a human being, what he learns, is full devotion. It means, devotion is innately born within us. The seed of devotion is beforehand completely sown within us. When we were not in this state, not in the human state the emergence of devotion was more at that time. Devotion set its roots deeply in us. Take an example of any animal. You get a little love from him, give him a little love, a little fondness for him he gets so close to you, gives his regard to you and in this way loves you. You must have heard about a horse too that when a horse's rider falls down or is about to die, he remains loyal to him. In the same way it is said about elephants. The elephants' determination too is terrific. They never put their master to any trouble and if a lion or any other animal attacks their master the elephant will better die while going on fighting but he will not allow his master to be touched. This relation of a master and superior and high-quality animals this relation is established within us beforehand. And along with this relationship we get that power as well. For example, I told you that the elephant will die while going on fighting in the battlefield. The elephant gets this power of fighting too because of his love and devotion. We say that Sahaj yoga is the work of love and Divine love is true. But while doing this work, that power is also inherent in it. We may or may not know it, we may or may not have any knowledge of that but that also is inherent in it, and that is Divine power. Man's bowing down before anyone to respect anyone, to consider anyone great all these are the indications of that. But when he respects his master, then within him there is importance to his master but along with that is his power as well. So, devotion and power are not two different things. They are just one and the same. We will say that if there is power in the right hand there is devotion in the left hand. This fusion of power and devotion has been described beautifully in Shri Hanumanji. On the one hand He went burn Ravan's Lanka and there only He prostrated before Sitaji. And when Sitaji said ''No, you are My son I will not come at the behest of My son. My husband will have to come and will have to destroy this man. When He will destroy him (Ravana), then I will go with Him." Hanumanji said, “That is okay!" He could have picked Her up like that only. He had such powers. But He said,"If Mother is saying so, it is okay." And after that, such a great war broke out. There was a need for that. Now there were special qualities of Shri Ram. Extremely powerful! And His aim would never go astray. You must have heard what He did in Sita Swayamvar. But the same Shri Ram when it was the case of Ravana He didn't give up. He killed Him. Tulsidas ji has given a beautiful description of this scene. Then Shri Ram was repeatedly hitting the arrows at Ravana's ten heads. The heads would fall down one by one but get back again, fall down and get back again. Then Laxman said ,"what are You doing? Shoot one arrow in His heart, the moment You will hit an arrow in His heart instantly He will die Otherwise, how can He die ? He cannot die." The arrow should hit His heart. There is a beautiful description of Shri Ram there. He was a shy person, very shy. Shri Ram, even though He was so powerful, so intense even though He was such a noble person He said, " You see the problem is that in Ravan's heart resides My Sita. So, I won't hit Him in his heart. But when his head will cut off repeatedly his attention will surely shift towards his head. At that time I will kill him with an arrow." Otherwise for Him, it would be said that he would kill a person just with one arrow. But now you see how delicate the matter is. Simply, it is a husband's love towards his wife. Even though being an ocean of power, what an amount of love He had! There are many instances of Hanumanji in which Hanumanji proved that He is ocean of love and at the same time, he who is evil minded he who bothers others, he who destroys others he doesn't hesitate in any way to kill him. As all this fact is about Hanuman's devotion the same is worth noticing about his power of strength. He knew that Ravana was afraid only of fire. So, He went to Lanka and set it on fire. This was His power that He put Lanka on fire. And in that fire, He didn't kill anyone, He did not burn anyone. Ravana also did not get burnt, nobody got burnt but he got scared. People got scared, as to what crime Ravana is doing. People had given full consent about the type of deeds Ravana was doing. They would say, "He is Ravana. it is his will. Whatever he wants to do, let him do. Who are we to question him? Ravana is after all Ravana." But it is worth noticing that when Lanka was on fire when Lanka was completely combusted people understood that it was a dangerous situation because Lanka was put on fire and we too could be burnt. The quality of fire is that it goes upwards, doesn't come downwards. Everybody was watching upwards that it was burning. Whole of Lanka was combusted but nobody got burnt. He did so to frighten them to make them understand that Ravana is committing a great sin. How much understanding and how much balanced was Bajrang Bali should be noted. The same we come across in History. All those who were very powerful had immense love. If you observe an example, there is an example of Shivaji Maharaj. He was as powerful as He was well behaved, very disciplined and very well balanced. When you get this balance, then you are a Sahaja Yogi. If you get the power, it doesn't mean that you in your love and your dealings you somehow give up. But you are powerful and its beauty is that those who are Schedule caste, poor and unhappy those who are victims, those who are facing disaster are secured......... And those who are troubling them those who are destroying, those who are bothering have created problems for people to such people there is no need to do anything. You can set them right only with the help of bandhans. The powers that you have received inside your being it should be used for this very purpose so that the evil will be destroyed. But in your power there is no sword or mace in your hand like Hanumanji. Mace is not outwardly but it is inside. You watch your experiences that he who bothers or disturbs, he is attacked by a mace you may or may not pick a mace in your hand. In this way you yourself are safe by default your safety is guaranteed but along with that your other sahaja yogis too are safe. Now in this Shri Bajrangbali has a great role to play. You don't know that he is standing in front of you as well as at your back. His nature is just like children Too pure and too simple but such wisdom and all types of virtues He knows. It means that along with His power He has a lot of absolute discretion- very wise. The wisdom of the present time is useless but the wisdom that will scrutinize and understand everything with love a special form of that wisdom was Shri Ganesha and is Shri Hanumana. The speciality of both of them is that Hanumanji is very strong, very quick deity and Shri Ganesha is very cool. But both are great destructors in times of need. For Sahaja Yogis there is no need of destruction. There is no need to destroy anyone. You just think that both of them are with you at every moment. Whenever anyone bothers you in reality, your protectors are standing with you. Many times, you must be noticing that ministers or anyone visits a place, security escorts them. Sahaja Yogis' security always escorts them. The other security with them is that of Ganas. Now their work is too diversified miscellaneous and little job work also. And these only give a message about you to Shri Ganesha who is Ganapati about what is going on? What wrong is going on and where? From where you are being attacked ? And from where you are troubled? you may not even be knowing. Somebody may like to attack you in an unknown form even then both these deities are standing with you and when Ganapati tells this Shri Hanuman gets ready. Sahaja Yogis need not be afraid of anything. No need to be afraid of anything Right now I am going to tell you a Story. It is so amazing. You must have heard that America exploded a lot of bombs everywhere thinking that terrorists have made some arrangements. The story I am going to tell you is about a place in Africa. Here were some Sahaja Yogis and a bomb exploded there. Because of that bomb explosion, all the people died and Sahaja Yogis remained unhurt. They were so surprised. Even the dust did not touch them. They had never come to Cabella. They had never thought that they would ever come to Cabella. But when it took place, they came to Cabella. And after coming said,''Mother, don't know who saved us who protected us.'' But all Sahaja Yogis were saved and the rest of the people died... Now it is an incident, it is true. And its reason is this that you have now recognized God. You have enlightened your soul in Sahaja Marga. With this new transformation you have become a great devotee and a powerful human being. Now it is not at all possible for anyone to touch you. I can give you hundreds of such examples that when you get your realization in Sahaja nobody can touch you. Previously also there were saints. All of them were tortured, victimized, everything happened. But in spite of being victimized or tortured, they didn't give up and not only this, they were always protected. And they would talk about such things which would make people very angry. They would think, what are they talking against kings, against emperors and against everybody. They would talk about such things which would scare people but because of Hanumanji's powers, nobody could touch them. Nobody hit them. There is a nice story about Khwaja Nizzamudin Saheb. That his king told him to bow down before him ..[unclear].. He didn't bow down. He said, "No, I am not going to bow down before you. Who are you?'' He was very angry. He said that if within three days you do not come and bow down before me I will get your neck cut off''. He said,'' Ok, get it cut off! I won't because you are not a great saint that i will bow down before you.'' Then he came and raised a great commotion that after three days this man's neck is to be cut off. The day his neck was going to be cut off that night only, this King's neck got cut off, nobody knows how? If this would not have been in history, those who were great saints those who were great followers of dharma, would have been no more. Because Rakshas's ways are so powerful and violent and are so comprehensive that they would have surely put an end to them. But behind them is God. And God is on one side Hanuman and on another side Ganesha. He is made of these two powers together. He is a protector, He takes care. There is a story of Rana Pratap of Mewar that when he went to fight a war, his soldiers thought that he was going to be defeated. So, they told him ''You return back because we want that your life should be saved for the sake of Mewar." He didn't listen. He said,"All of you better go back. I will stay put like this because the Ganas are standing with me." He too was a Sahaja Yogi. "If you want to go, you go. I will stay here like this, only because the Ganas are with me." Just understand that you have every type of protection in your front and back. But just on getting this protection what should a man have? What should a Sahaja Yogi have? A very serious and determined person, and not afraid of anyone. He doesn't run away from anyone. He sticks at that place and those who are evil persons,in front of him. He doesn't need to do anything. That period is over. Now you just stand at a place and the other person will run away. He won't come to know what happened. Sahaja Yogis write and send about many such experiences that happened like this and that. Otherwise in the presence of these foreigners it is not so easy to spread Sahaja Yoga. And since Sahaja Yoga has started spreading among Muslims too you can understand that that this Divine power which is the power of love, how much strength it has within it and how many tasks can be done with the help of it. But it doesn't mean that you make any harassment in the name of Hanumanji. It doesn't at all mean that. For example nowadays, there are such (organizations) which take the name of Hanumanji, take the name of Ganesh ji or of Mahadevji and make such organizations. There is no need of making any organization. You yourself are an organization. Neither anybody can touch you nor, anyone can destroy you. First, it is a matter of understanding one's own self which has been said in all scriptures that Atmasakhshatkar means to know oneself. What does it mean to know oneself? To know means to know who is in front of you and who is behind you. Who is your protector? And the love and affection you have for people and those who always think how to please others For example (NOT CLEAR) that i will make the whole world happy. I will fill everyone's heart with joy. This thought that comes in your mind you should understand that there is nobody who can harm you. Have courage! Nobody will destroy you. And for that you don't have to do anything. For that you don't need to keep any sword no need to have a mace They are already there. They have already come, well prepared. And they are settled in you. You don't need to make yourself strong. You are already so. There is a Chinese story, very interesting! In their country, cock fights are organized. When the cock fight was on, it so happened that somehow a king felt that he should go to a saint. Let the cocks learn from the saint, how to fight with the world. Because, this saint does not fight with anyone nor anyone touches him. People run away from him and salute him. So what is so special about him that he is living in this wicked world like this. The saint told him,''Ok! leave the cock here.'' So, he went back, leaving one cock with him. He took back that cock after one month and put him where the cock fight was going on. There were a lot of cocks. He put him in such a courtyard. But this great cock kept standing. Now all the cocks were fighting among themselves. One after the other they left. Only this one cock kept standing. Everybody started getting scared of him and he is not reacting at all. Is he somewhat special? And at the end that one cock was saved who kept standing gracefully. So when we are doing the puja of Hanuman Ji here today we must think that Hanumanji has settled in reality within us. He is on our right side. That means He is working on our Pingala Nadi. He works on our Pingala Nadi and creates enthusiasm in us and that creates warmath in our body. But his path is such that along with warmath you feel devotion within you. So, the warmath that comes, the enthusiasm it creates that works inside us on our right side and when we do not absorb the balanced power of Hanumanji we get a lot of diseases. For example the liver problem, asthma and when its heat goes downwards Hanumanji controls this heat. But when the heat doesn't get controlled, such diseases attack which are incurable. It can cause blood cancer and there can be intestinal trouble which means all the troubles all over the world are caused just by the breakdown of the liver and the liver gets spoiled because we do not follow Hanumanji. There is no need to get angry. But getting angry and start hitting, beating this and that person to create panic, this is not Hanumanji's power. There is no question of getting angry. There is no question of getting angry about anyone. There is no need at all, if you respect Hanumanji. He is not angry with anyone But a human being gets angry over everything. He gets ego. Hanumanji didn't have ego at all. A right sided person is very egoistic. A human being has so much ego! I become restless when I see what they were egotistical. That ego doesn't have any meaning What does "I" mean? Even an ordinary human being becomes egoistic. And many Kings and emperors also are not egoistic. Its reason is that inside their being there is such a conditioning that they do not recognize Hanumanji. As soon as you recognize Hanuman Ji, you recognise Shri Ram. Now tell Me if you are right sided, you should not get Asthma because Shri Ram is settled according to Sahaja Yoga in our right heart. Because you do not recognize Hanumanji your behaviour and your balance is not like His that is why you get Asthma as well. Shivji's place is in your heart, there also is the same fuss and you can get a heart attack or you can have some other diseases. After coming to Sahaja Yoga you should understand that Hanumanji is an ideal in front of you. Ganeshji is already there, He is the incarnation of innocence just like small children, very innocent but very wise. And a perfect balance of Hanumanji’s happiness full of love and along with that experience Divine power. Keeping this in mind a Sahaja Yogi's character or life should be such that he should be balanced. Even when you are angry, just observe silence. I feel, I never get angry. Or maybe I get angry, but I am not aware of it. And the problem gets solved without getting angry. Yes, I may say,"what are you doing?" Not much beyond this. People abuse and use all bad words But when it crosses its limits and when this habit of getting angry crosses its limits and man..... He is sitting angrily sitting there in a very angry mood. He is showing his anger. When people are like that, a serious problem arises they get a serious disease called Alzheimer. Alzheimer is caused by anger. That anger which we get unnecessarily. Now try to understand, Your son has been slapped by somebody. And you get angry. Nothing is gained by getting angry. On the contrary you should think, if it is the mistake of our son? Or we are spoiling that boy unnecessarily under the cover of our love. He will never have a balance in this way. Alzheimer is a very serious disease. A person gets mad, doesn't even die, nor allows anyone to die, abuses, goes on shouting. He gets so much caught up in his left side, in his brain that his personality becomes very strange. It's treatment is in Sahaja Yoga but it is very difficult, because they go on abusing. If they will abuse the person who will go to set them right, who will accept it. If anyone is a doctor. if he is abused, he will say let him go to hell. What have I to do with him? This is what happens with them, they don't want to. Mother we won't set them right, let them go. Whichever way they want to live, let them live. Now the next greatest enemies of Hanumanji are drunkards. Those who drink, are put to flames like Lanka. Say, you see those who drink nobody will talk to them nor do anything else. He will collect ten more drunkards and drink. And now when all of them are drinking they don't have anything to eat nor to drink at their homes. They are drinking just like mad people. Those who respect Hanumanji, can't drink, can't drink because, on the one hand, you respect Him and on the other hand do the opposite, that is not possible. Nowadays I find that drinking is on the rise. And I am so surprised , there was a senior officer once we went to his house, because both of them were friends of My Husband. And both husband and wife would drink. It was very cold. They told Me,"Stay here for the night." I said,"Ok, we will stay." In the whole house, there was just one blanket. I said,"Oh! My God!" Just one blanket in the home of such a senior officer. I said," It doesn't matter to Me, I will sleep." Now they were worried, how to manage for My husband in one blanket. I said," Don't worry. I will set it right." They had such a great problem about themselves and their daughter but they were not willing to agree that their daughter had any problem. As soon as they drink they will start saying our daughter is best of all, don't say anything. That girl was in complete devastation, because they were under the influence of intoxication. When intoxicated they were not are not in senses. That girl was completely devastated. At last she came to Me just now, crying. She has been totally devastated. So it is like this that intoxication on account of drinking increases intoxication all the more and in that the most intoxicating thing is that a man is devoid of love. He doesn't love anyone. That is why everyone, in every religion, prohibited drinking. But for example, as is the case with the Christian religion everybody manages somehow. They say it is so in Hindu dharam, in Christians and in Mohammedans too. So they said that when Christ had gone to attend a marriage, in that marriage liquor was made. Absolutely false! That is why we drink. I was surprised in England that if anyone dies, they drink if anyone dies, even then they drink. If anyone is born, even then they drink. What does it mean, I can't understand. The habit that they have got used to and drink has become like culture. They have to write books about drinks which should be drunk when not this,that and which type of glass should be used. Now the condition of these drunkards that I have seen I think they are half human beings and half absolutely mad. They are mad! But it is getting sanctified there. It is topmost in France. It became the culture of France. We don't have to learn anything from them. Now what they talk about drinks; Christ, when He went there that time, that place I have read this in HEBRU that the people used to drink the juice of DRAKSHA means, they used to take grape juice. So He put His hand in water and made juice of grapes out of water. Does that juice ever become a drink without rotting and softening? Can a drink ever be made in two minutes in Sahaj? Till you do not rot the drink a lot and the more it is rotten, the more it is costlier. If it has been rotten for the past fifty years it is all the more better. And if it is a hundred year old, it is rare. These notions about drinks were created by drunkards, the drunkard writers and the drunkard tellers. With the lectures of the drunkards don't know how many people become fools. But I have not seen any effigy erected of any drunkard in any country. So all these people are not only against Shri Hanuman, but they attack Him. Then He also shows His power, causing such heat in his stomach. It then causes Cancer and all the diseases. Drink more and more! This drinking and serving drinks to others is the custom of drinking that has started. I am scared of this. Manage Hanumanji Don't know what He will do. What disaster He may cause is unpredictable. I am afraid that one day He may put all the drunkards in the sea, because He has mercy, devotion and everything but those who are against Him he is not for them. For example Shri Ganesha if anyone has a bad character if any one acts badly is attacked on his Mooladhara Chakra. But His case is different. When He sees that he is playing with his own consciousness by drinking- consciousness is lost- then He chases him. There will be conflict, quarrels and fights in homes and you see there will be fights on roads if you.. NOT CLEAR.. two drunkards will be hitting each other and then it spreads all the more. So Sahaja Yogis should not visit any drunkard's house that is an unholy place nor should keep any association with any drunkard. This is also fatal for Sahaja Yogis because on one hand you respect Hanumanji and on the other hand join drunkards. Especially in Poona, I don't know how many types of Hanumanjis have come here, people living in Poona should be very alert. Once a Hanumanji group had come and requested Me to deliver a lecture. I said ,"I won't come". They asked, “Why Mother?" I told them that after having a drink you sing silly movie songs. Do you know who is this Maruti? When He will strangle throats of all of you then only you will come to know. I have heard about Ganpati programs that they don't allow anyone to drink. They drive away those who drink. Just think, see their courage! In front of Hanumanji, they do all this business In front of Hanumanji! What a courage! and this by doing everything people think that they get money. Those who deal in it and those who drink, are its customers everybody somehow absolutely useless, bankrupt , don't have a single penny We will say, what is there so much in drinking because it is Shri Hanumanji's case. What is the reason you are going against Hanumanji? His power flows through your right side. Use that in balance. instead of upsetting your liver, spoil this and spoil that. He will definitely get upset. That means it is Hanumanji's job in subtle. People don't understand this in reality. In reality it is such that if you say something against drinking people will run to kill you. If you don't drink they will say you are a fool that you don't drink. Oh! behind him is standing such great Hanumanji. If you attack him even once you will be no more, you will lose your life. I think that if people start striking beforehand..... How do people talk such nonsense? They will repeat the same thing again and again. They are almost absolutely mad they are all together, have a party and they are all mad. It may be marriage or marriage procession, everywhere it is prevalent. Now the person who works one who thinks of the future, one who is thoughtful but is devoid of love towards everyone has no feeling of love, he is also in trouble. Because the devotee of Rama there is no whereabouts of Hanumanji. If you are a great worker you are a well to do person, a nice person but you don't have love for anyone it won't work. You have to love everyone and that is why Christ has said ,"Forgive everyone." Who are you not to forgive? You yourself are not Hanumanji. Yes, Hanumanji is with you and He is an ideal for you that He on the basis of His devotion has attained this high position. Wherever there is heat, people's brains get upset and the bond of love gets disrupted. Every body should salute such Hanuman devotee, Shri Bajrangbali and should understand that whatever powers we have got from Sahaja Yoga we should keep in balance. Love is such a thing that you can win over great personalities with the bond of love. I go on doing the same because I have to face strange people. Now handle them with such a trick of love that they will be ok. Once I went somewhere. There was a famous but very short tempered saint; All of them are very short tempered. Then I climbed up and went there. He was shaking his neck in anger. Because he was egoistic that he could control rain. And as I climbed up and reached I was drenched completely wet in rain. Now, he was sitting in great anger. I sat in his cave. He came and sat He was very angry. I asked,"What happened, even if I got wet?" He said, "You did not stop the rain to take away my ego. Because I can stop it. I had this ego." "There is nothing like that." I said,"You are a Saint and you have purchased a saree for Me. I cannot take anything from a saint. And you cannot give Me anything. Then I thought it is better to get wet nd I will have to accept it." Because of that tears came out of his eyes and he fell down at My feet. I said, ‘what should I have done? I had to just get wet. Otherwise I too would not have accepted it. I said that it is better to get a little wet then I will have to accept it’. Then he said, "Is it so?" I said you have purchased a peach coloured saree for Me and nauvar (nine yards) this you have done a good thing because My petticoat too has got wet, so I can wear this nauvar. He was very happy. So, love is such a thing that it brings down to earth even great people fuming with anger. There are so many earlier examples of it. When they say," Basu"(Sit down), the whole night will pass like that. And even now everyday it happens so. Talk with love. How does it matter? If you love others, their good qualities will transmit to you and if you hate someone, their bad qualities will transmit to you. It is all give and take. This person is like this, that person is like that whosoever you see is not right. It is a custom with so many people It is their culture that if someone comes to his home stays, has his meals and fun and everything is over. As soon as he leaves, comments follow that he is such a bad man. Next came and sat down especially among women it is too much prevalent. He comes and sits. You are very nice, very nice and now you can go. Yes he is like that! Oh! this outward love won't work. If you shower artificial love, does he not understand? You have got the power to love by heart as you are a Sahaja Yogi. And when you will imbibe this when the tree of love will bloom by itself you will give joy to others and you too will enjoy its fragrance. Except the ocean of love, you will not like anything. So, what you have to learn from Bajrangbali is His devotion and that power which He has given to you that nobody can touch you if your devotion is pure. Nobody can touch you. There are thousands of such examples in Sahaja Yoga. People call these miracles but I say that it is Shri Hanumanji's blessing. So, now I give My blessings and love to all of you. First love yourself and then others. It doesn't mean my son, my this No! No! No! It means selfless love. Love that expects no return, Which has no relation, is limitless. Such a power of love has come to you, use it. Lots of blessings! Anant Aashirvad (Limitless blessings). May God Bless You.

Shri Hanuman puja. Pune (India), 31 March 1999. Today we are celebrating Jayanti (Birth Anniversary) of Hanumanji. What should we say about Hanumanji! He was so powerful and wise. He was equally devoted and dedicated. Generally such a powerful person becomes right sided. He considers Himself so dignified that He doesn't give any importance to anyone in His comparison. But Hanumanji is a special Deity. A special deity full of qualities that as much strong He was as much powerful He was as much was His devotion. An embodiment of balanced strength He had as much power, as He had devotion. How did He maintain this balance? And was steady in it is worth understanding. In Sahaja yoga, when we are enlightened and in Sahaja yoga we get many powers simultaneously, we get balance. We love others. With love and with the help of the power of Love we get busy in our work and go on doing our work. In this way, Shri Hanumanji was very powerful. He had Divine powers He had NAVADHA (Special) powers. which are called GARIMA, LAGHUMA. He could become as big as He wanted to be or as minute as He wanted to be and as small as an atom. All these powers He got through His devotion. It means that devotion and power are both the same. He who has power and doesn't have devotion, becomes a Rakshasa (Demon). And He who has devotion but doesn't have power, becomes mad. Between both these, he who is in the central path attains this state which you may call power, or devotion. Each part of his body is made of that. Because of His this special feature today we worship Bajrang Bali in our motherland as well as in foreign countries. I am so surprised that the young boys, children of foreign countries, when they draw any picture first of all they draw Hanumanji’s picture. Next, His special quality was that He was half man and half monkey. Means, it was a perfect combination of animal and human being. So within us, whatever we have lost in our evolution in that, the element of love and attachment that was what he took with him. For example, you see that guru's enamored path is believed in which of guru's which creatures are considered as attendants. That is why they consider dogs. A dog has that quality that like a guru's disciple is fully dedicated and has no other master except his guru and has no other thought. Every time, he sacrifices his life for his master. In the same way, it should be understood that a creature who has been brought up in evolution when he comes in contact with a human being, what he learns, is full devotion. It means, devotion is innately born within us. The seed of devotion is beforehand completely sown within us. When we were not in this state, not in the human state the emergence of devotion was more at that time. Devotion set its roots deeply in us. Take an example of any animal. You get a little love from him, give him a little love, a little fondness for him he gets so close to you, gives his regard to you and in this way loves you. You must have heard about a horse too that when a horse's rider falls down or is about to die, he remains loyal to him. In the same way it is said about elephants. The elephants' determination too is terrific. They never put their master to any trouble and if a lion or any other animal attacks their master the elephant will better die while going on fighting but he will not allow his master to be touched. This relation of a master and superior and high-quality animals this relation is established within us beforehand. And along with this relationship we get that power as well. For example, I told you that the elephant will die while going on fighting in the battlefield. The elephant gets this power of fighting too because of his love and devotion. We say that Sahaj yoga is the work of love and Divine love is true. But while doing this work, that power is also inherent in it. We may or may not know it, we may or may not have any knowledge of that but that also is inherent in it, and that is Divine power. Man's bowing down before anyone to respect anyone, to consider anyone great all these are the indications of that. But when he respects his master, then within him there is importance to his master but along with that is his power as well. So, devotion and power are not two different things. They are just one and the same. We will say that if there is power in the right hand there is devotion in the left hand. This fusion of power and devotion has been described beautifully in Shri Hanumanji. On the one hand He went burn Ravan's Lanka and there only He prostrated before Sitaji. And when Sitaji said ''No, you are My son I will not come at the behest of My son. My husband will have to come and will have to destroy this man. When He will destroy him (Ravana), then I will go with Him." Hanumanji said, “That is okay!" He could have picked Her up like that only. He had such powers. But He said,"If Mother is saying so, it is okay." And after that, such a great war broke out. There was a need for that. Now there were special qualities of Shri Ram. Extremely powerful! And His aim would never go astray. You must have heard what He did in Sita Swayamvar. But the same Shri Ram when it was the case of Ravana He didn't give up. He killed Him. Tulsidas ji has given a beautiful description of this scene. Then Shri Ram was repeatedly hitting the arrows at Ravana's ten heads. The heads would fall down one by one but get back again, fall down and get back again. Then Laxman said ,"what are You doing? Shoot one arrow in His heart, the moment You will hit an arrow in His heart instantly He will die Otherwise, how can He die ? He cannot die." The arrow should hit His heart. There is a beautiful description of Shri Ram there. He was a shy person, very shy. Shri Ram, even though He was so powerful, so intense even though He was such a noble person He said, " You see the problem is that in Ravan's heart resides My Sita. So, I won't hit Him in his heart. But when his head will cut off repeatedly his attention will surely shift towards his head. At that time I will kill him with an arrow." Otherwise for Him, it would be said that he would kill a person just with one arrow. But now you see how delicate the matter is. Simply, it is a husband's love towards his wife. Even though being an ocean of power, what an amount of love He had! There are many instances of Hanumanji in which Hanumanji proved that He is ocean of love and at the same time, he who is evil minded he who bothers others, he who destroys others he doesn't hesitate in any way to kill him. As all this fact is about Hanuman's devotion the same is worth noticing about his power of strength. He knew that Ravana was afraid only of fire. So, He went to Lanka and set it on fire. This was His power that He put Lanka on fire. And in that fire, He didn't kill anyone, He did not burn anyone. Ravana also did not get burnt, nobody got burnt but he got scared. People got scared, as to what crime Ravana is doing. People had given full consent about the type of deeds Ravana was doing. They would say, "He is Ravana. it is his will. Whatever he wants to do, let him do. Who are we to question him? Ravana is after all Ravana." But it is worth noticing that when Lanka was on fire when Lanka was completely combusted people understood that it was a dangerous situation because Lanka was put on fire and we too could be burnt. The quality of fire is that it goes upwards, doesn't come downwards. Everybody was watching upwards that it was burning. Whole of Lanka was combusted but nobody got burnt. He did so to frighten them to make them understand that Ravana is committing a great sin. How much understanding and how much balanced was Bajrang Bali should be noted. The same we come across in History. All those who were very powerful had immense love. If you observe an example, there is an example of Shivaji Maharaj. He was as powerful as He was well behaved, very disciplined and very well balanced. When you get this balance, then you are a Sahaja Yogi. If you get the power, it doesn't mean that you in your love and your dealings you somehow give up. But you are powerful and its beauty is that those who are Schedule caste, poor and unhappy those who are victims, those who are facing disaster are secured......... And those who are troubling them those who are destroying, those who are bothering have created problems for people to such people there is no need to do anything. You can set them right only with the help of bandhans. The powers that you have received inside your being it should be used for this very purpose so that the evil will be destroyed. But in your power there is no sword or mace in your hand like Hanumanji. Mace is not outwardly but it is inside. You watch your experiences that he who bothers or disturbs, he is attacked by a mace you may or may not pick a mace in your hand. In this way you yourself are safe by default your safety is guaranteed but along with that your other sahaja yogis too are safe. Now in this Shri Bajrangbali has a great role to play. You don't know that he is standing in front of you as well as at your back. His nature is just like children Too pure and too simple but such wisdom and all types of virtues He knows. It means that along with His power He has a lot of absolute discretion- very wise. The wisdom of the present time is useless but the wisdom that will scrutinize and understand everything with love a special form of that wisdom was Shri Ganesha and is Shri Hanumana. The speciality of both of them is that Hanumanji is very strong, very quick deity and Shri Ganesha is very cool. But both are great destructors in times of need. For Sahaja Yogis there is no need of destruction. There is no need to destroy anyone. You just think that both of them are with you at every moment. Whenever anyone bothers you in reality, your protectors are standing with you. Many times, you must be noticing that ministers or anyone visits a place, security escorts them. Sahaja Yogis' security always escorts them. The other security with them is that of Ganas. Now their work is too diversified miscellaneous and little job work also. And these only give a message about you to Shri Ganesha who is Ganapati about what is going on? What wrong is going on and where? From where you are being attacked ? And from where you are troubled? you may not even be knowing. Somebody may like to attack you in an unknown form even then both these deities are standing with you and when Ganapati tells this Shri Hanuman gets ready. Sahaja Yogis need not be afraid of anything. No need to be afraid of anything Right now I am going to tell you a Story. It is so amazing. You must have heard that America exploded a lot of bombs everywhere thinking that terrorists have made some arrangements. The story I am going to tell you is about a place in Africa. Here were some Sahaja Yogis and a bomb exploded there. Because of that bomb explosion, all the people died and Sahaja Yogis remained unhurt. They were so surprised. Even the dust did not touch them. They had never come to Cabella. They had never thought that they would ever come to Cabella. But when it took place, they came to Cabella. And after coming said,''Mother, don't know who saved us who protected us.'' But all Sahaja Yogis were saved and the rest of the people died... Now it is an incident, it is true. And its reason is this that you have now recognized God. You have enlightened your soul in Sahaja Marga. With this new transformation you have become a great devotee and a powerful human being. Now it is not at all possible for anyone to touch you. I can give you hundreds of such examples that when you get your realization in Sahaja nobody can touch you. Previously also there were saints. All of them were tortured, victimized, everything happened. But in spite of being victimized or tortured, they didn't give up and not only this, they were always protected. And they would talk about such things which would make people very angry. They would think, what are they talking against kings, against emperors and against everybody. They would talk about such things which would scare people but because of Hanumanji's powers, nobody could touch them. Nobody hit them. There is a nice story about Khwaja Nizzamudin Saheb. That his king told him to bow down before him ..[unclear].. He didn't bow down. He said, "No, I am not going to bow down before you. Who are you?'' He was very angry. He said that if within three days you do not come and bow down before me I will get your neck cut off''. He said,'' Ok, get it cut off! I won't because you are not a great saint that i will bow down before you.'' Then he came and raised a great commotion that after three days this man's neck is to be cut off. The day his neck was going to be cut off that night only, this King's neck got cut off, nobody knows how? If this would not have been in history, those who were great saints those who were great followers of dharma, would have been no more. Because Rakshas's ways are so powerful and violent and are so comprehensive that they would have surely put an end to them. But behind them is God. And God is on one side Hanuman and on another side Ganesha. He is made of these two powers together. He is a protector, He takes care. There is a story of Rana Pratap of Mewar that when he went to fight a war, his soldiers thought that he was going to be defeated. So, they told him ''You return back because we want that your life should be saved for the sake of Mewar." He didn't listen. He said,"All of you better go back. I will stay put like this because the Ganas are standing with me." He too was a Sahaja Yogi. "If you want to go, you go. I will stay here like this, only because the Ganas are with me." Just understand that you have every type of protection in your front and back. But just on getting this protection what should a man have? What should a Sahaja Yogi have? A very serious and determined person, and not afraid of anyone. He doesn't run away from anyone. He sticks at that place and those who are evil persons,in front of him. He doesn't need to do anything. That period is over. Now you just stand at a place and the other person will run away. He won't come to know what happened. Sahaja Yogis write and send about many such experiences that happened like this and that. Otherwise in the presence of these foreigners it is not so easy to spread Sahaja Yoga. And since Sahaja Yoga has started spreading among Muslims too you can understand that that this Divine power which is the power of love, how much strength it has within it and how many tasks can be done with the help of it. But it doesn't mean that you make any harassment in the name of Hanumanji. It doesn't at all mean that. For example nowadays, there are such (organizations) which take the name of Hanumanji, take the name of Ganesh ji or of Mahadevji and make such organizations. There is no need of making any organization. You yourself are an organization. Neither anybody can touch you nor, anyone can destroy you. First, it is a matter of understanding one's own self which has been said in all scriptures that Atmasakhshatkar means to know oneself. What does it mean to know oneself? To know means to know who is in front of you and who is behind you. Who is your protector? And the love and affection you have for people and those who always think how to please others For example (NOT CLEAR) that i will make the whole world happy. I will fill everyone's heart with joy. This thought that comes in your mind you should understand that there is nobody who can harm you. Have courage! Nobody will destroy you. And for that you don't have to do anything. For that you don't need to keep any sword no need to have a mace They are already there. They have already come, well prepared. And they are settled in you. You don't need to make yourself strong. You are already so. There is a Chinese story, very interesting! In their country, cock fights are organized. When the cock fight was on, it so happened that somehow a king felt that he should go to a saint. Let the cocks learn from the saint, how to fight with the world. Because, this saint does not fight with anyone nor anyone touches him. People run away from him and salute him. So what is so special about him that he is living in this wicked world like this. The saint told him,''Ok! leave the cock here.'' So, he went back, leaving one cock with him. He took back that cock after one month and put him where the cock fight was going on. There were a lot of cocks. He put him in such a courtyard. But this great cock kept standing. Now all the cocks were fighting among themselves. One after the other they left. Only this one cock kept standing. Everybody started getting scared of him and he is not reacting at all. Is he somewhat special? And at the end that one cock was saved who kept standing gracefully. So when we are doing the puja of Hanuman Ji here today we must think that Hanumanji has settled in reality within us. He is on our right side. That means He is working on our Pingala Nadi. He works on our Pingala Nadi and creates enthusiasm in us and that creates warmath in our body. But his path is such that along with warmath you feel devotion within you. So, the warmath that comes, the enthusiasm it creates that works inside us on our right side and when we do not absorb the balanced power of Hanumanji we get a lot of diseases. For example the liver problem, asthma and when its heat goes downwards Hanumanji controls this heat. But when the heat doesn't get controlled, such diseases attack which are incurable. It can cause blood cancer and there can be intestinal trouble which means all the troubles all over the world are caused just by the breakdown of the liver and the liver gets spoiled because we do not follow Hanumanji. There is no need to get angry. But getting angry and start hitting, beating this and that person to create panic, this is not Hanumanji's power. There is no question of getting angry. There is no question of getting angry about anyone. There is no need at all, if you respect Hanumanji. He is not angry with anyone But a human being gets angry over everything. He gets ego. Hanumanji didn't have ego at all. A right sided person is very egoistic. A human being has so much ego! I become restless when I see what they were egotistical. That ego doesn't have any meaning What does "I" mean? Even an ordinary human being becomes egoistic. And many Kings and emperors also are not egoistic. Its reason is that inside their being there is such a conditioning that they do not recognize Hanumanji. As soon as you recognize Hanuman Ji, you recognise Shri Ram. Now tell Me if you are right sided, you should not get Asthma because Shri Ram is settled according to Sahaja Yoga in our right heart. Because you do not recognize Hanumanji your behaviour and your balance is not like His that is why you get Asthma as well. Shivji's place is in your heart, there also is the same fuss and you can get a heart attack or you can have some other diseases. After coming to Sahaja Yoga you should understand that Hanumanji is an ideal in front of you. Ganeshji is already there, He is the incarnation of innocence just like small children, very innocent but very wise. And a perfect balance of Hanumanji’s happiness full of love and along with that experience Divine power. Keeping this in mind a Sahaja Yogi's character or life should be such that he should be balanced. Even when you are angry, just observe silence. I feel, I never get angry. Or maybe I get angry, but I am not aware of it. And the problem gets solved without getting angry. Yes, I may say,"what are you doing?" Not much beyond this. People abuse and use all bad words But when it crosses its limits and when this habit of getting angry crosses its limits and man..... He is sitting angrily sitting there in a very angry mood. He is showing his anger. When people are like that, a serious problem arises they get a serious disease called Alzheimer. Alzheimer is caused by anger. That anger which we get unnecessarily. Now try to understand, Your son has been slapped by somebody. And you get angry. Nothing is gained by getting angry. On the contrary you should think, if it is the mistake of our son? Or we are spoiling that boy unnecessarily under the cover of our love. He will never have a balance in this way. Alzheimer is a very serious disease. A person gets mad, doesn't even die, nor allows anyone to die, abuses, goes on shouting. He gets so much caught up in his left side, in his brain that his personality becomes very strange. It's treatment is in Sahaja Yoga but it is very difficult, because they go on abusing. If they will abuse the person who will go to set them right, who will accept it. If anyone is a doctor. if he is abused, he will say let him go to hell. What have I to do with him? This is what happens with them, they don't want to. Mother we won't set them right, let them go. Whichever way they want to live, let them live. Now the next greatest enemies of Hanumanji are drunkards. Those who drink, are put to flames like Lanka. Say, you see those who drink nobody will talk to them nor do anything else. He will collect ten more drunkards and drink. And now when all of them are drinking they don't have anything to eat nor to drink at their homes. They are drinking just like mad people. Those who respect Hanumanji, can't drink, can't drink because, on the one hand, you respect Him and on the other hand do the opposite, that is not possible. Nowadays I find that drinking is on the rise. And I am so surprised , there was a senior officer once we went to his house, because both of them were friends of My Husband. And both husband and wife would drink. It was very cold. They told Me,"Stay here for the night." I said,"Ok, we will stay." In the whole house, there was just one blanket. I said,"Oh! My God!" Just one blanket in the home of such a senior officer. I said," It doesn't matter to Me, I will sleep." Now they were worried, how to manage for My husband in one blanket. I said," Don't worry. I will set it right." They had such a great problem about themselves and their daughter but they were not willing to agree that their daughter had any problem. As soon as they drink they will start saying our daughter is best of all, don't say anything. That girl was in complete devastation, because they were under the influence of intoxication. When intoxicated they were not are not in senses. That girl was completely devastated. At last she came to Me just now, crying. She has been totally devastated. So it is like this that intoxication on account of drinking increases intoxication all the more and in that the most intoxicating thing is that a man is devoid of love. He doesn't love anyone. That is why everyone, in every religion, prohibited drinking. But for example, as is the case with the Christian religion everybody manages somehow. They say it is so in Hindu dharam, in Christians and in Mohammedans too. So they said that when Christ had gone to attend a marriage, in that marriage liquor was made. Absolutely false! That is why we drink. I was surprised in England that if anyone dies, they drink if anyone dies, even then they drink. If anyone is born, even then they drink. What does it mean, I can't understand. The habit that they have got used to and drink has become like culture. They have to write books about drinks which should be drunk when not this,that and which type of glass should be used. Now the condition of these drunkards that I have seen I think they are half human beings and half absolutely mad. They are mad! But it is getting sanctified there. It is topmost in France. It became the culture of France. We don't have to learn anything from them. Now what they talk about drinks; Christ, when He went there that time, that place I have read this in HEBRU that the people used to drink the juice of DRAKSHA means, they used to take grape juice. So He put His hand in water and made juice of grapes out of water. Does that juice ever become a drink without rotting and softening? Can a drink ever be made in two minutes in Sahaj? Till you do not rot the drink a lot and the more it is rotten, the more it is costlier. If it has been rotten for the past fifty years it is all the more better. And if it is a hundred year old, it is rare. These notions about drinks were created by drunkards, the drunkard writers and the drunkard tellers. With the lectures of the drunkards don't know how many people become fools. But I have not seen any effigy erected of any drunkard in any country. So all these people are not only against Shri Hanuman, but they attack Him. Then He also shows His power, causing such heat in his stomach. It then causes Cancer and all the diseases. Drink more and more! This drinking and serving drinks to others is the custom of drinking that has started. I am scared of this. Manage Hanumanji Don't know what He will do. What disaster He may cause is unpredictable. I am afraid that one day He may put all the drunkards in the sea, because He has mercy, devotion and everything but those who are against Him he is not for them. For example Shri Ganesha if anyone has a bad character if any one acts badly is attacked on his Mooladhara Chakra. But His case is different. When He sees that he is playing with his own consciousness by drinking- consciousness is lost- then He chases him. There will be conflict, quarrels and fights in homes and you see there will be fights on roads if you.. NOT CLEAR.. two drunkards will be hitting each other and then it spreads all the more. So Sahaja Yogis should not visit any drunkard's house that is an unholy place nor should keep any association with any drunkard. This is also fatal for Sahaja Yogis because on one hand you respect Hanumanji and on the other hand join drunkards. Especially in Poona, I don't know how many types of Hanumanjis have come here, people living in Poona should be very alert. Once a Hanumanji group had come and requested Me to deliver a lecture. I said ,"I won't come". They asked, “Why Mother?" I told them that after having a drink you sing silly movie songs. Do you know who is this Maruti? When He will strangle throats of all of you then only you will come to know. I have heard about Ganpati programs that they don't allow anyone to drink. They drive away those who drink. Just think, see their courage! In front of Hanumanji, they do all this business In front of Hanumanji! What a courage! and this by doing everything people think that they get money. Those who deal in it and those who drink, are its customers everybody somehow absolutely useless, bankrupt , don't have a single penny We will say, what is there so much in drinking because it is Shri Hanumanji's case. What is the reason you are going against Hanumanji? His power flows through your right side. Use that in balance. instead of upsetting your liver, spoil this and spoil that. He will definitely get upset. That means it is Hanumanji's job in subtle. People don't understand this in reality. In reality it is such that if you say something against drinking people will run to kill you. If you don't drink they will say you are a fool that you don't drink. Oh! behind him is standing such great Hanumanji. If you attack him even once you will be no more, you will lose your life. I think that if people start striking beforehand..... How do people talk such nonsense? They will repeat the same thing again and again. They are almost absolutely mad they are all together, have a party and they are all mad. It may be marriage or marriage procession, everywhere it is prevalent. Now the person who works one who thinks of the future, one who is thoughtful but is devoid of love towards everyone has no feeling of love, he is also in trouble. Because the devotee of Rama there is no whereabouts of Hanumanji. If you are a great worker you are a well to do person, a nice person but you don't have love for anyone it won't work. You have to love everyone and that is why Christ has said ,"Forgive everyone." Who are you not to forgive? You yourself are not Hanumanji. Yes, Hanumanji is with you and He is an ideal for you that He on the basis of His devotion has attained this high position. Wherever there is heat, people's brains get upset and the bond of love gets disrupted. Every body should salute such Hanuman devotee, Shri Bajrangbali and should understand that whatever powers we have got from Sahaja Yoga we should keep in balance. Love is such a thing that you can win over great personalities with the bond of love. I go on doing the same because I have to face strange people. Now handle them with such a trick of love that they will be ok. Once I went somewhere. There was a famous but very short tempered saint; All of them are very short tempered. Then I climbed up and went there. He was shaking his neck in anger. Because he was egoistic that he could control rain. And as I climbed up and reached I was drenched completely wet in rain. Now, he was sitting in great anger. I sat in his cave. He came and sat He was very angry. I asked,"What happened, even if I got wet?" He said, "You did not stop the rain to take away my ego. Because I can stop it. I had this ego." "There is nothing like that." I said,"You are a Saint and you have purchased a saree for Me. I cannot take anything from a saint. And you cannot give Me anything. Then I thought it is better to get wet nd I will have to accept it." Because of that tears came out of his eyes and he fell down at My feet. I said, ‘what should I have done? I had to just get wet. Otherwise I too would not have accepted it. I said that it is better to get a little wet then I will have to accept it’. Then he said, "Is it so?" I said you have purchased a peach coloured saree for Me and nauvar (nine yards) this you have done a good thing because My petticoat too has got wet, so I can wear this nauvar. He was very happy. So, love is such a thing that it brings down to earth even great people fuming with anger. There are so many earlier examples of it. When they say," Basu"(Sit down), the whole night will pass like that. And even now everyday it happens so. Talk with love. How does it matter? If you love others, their good qualities will transmit to you and if you hate someone, their bad qualities will transmit to you. It is all give and take. This person is like this, that person is like that whosoever you see is not right. It is a custom with so many people It is their culture that if someone comes to his home stays, has his meals and fun and everything is over. As soon as he leaves, comments follow that he is such a bad man. Next came and sat down especially among women it is too much prevalent. He comes and sits. You are very nice, very nice and now you can go. Yes he is like that! Oh! this outward love won't work. If you shower artificial love, does he not understand? You have got the power to love by heart as you are a Sahaja Yogi. And when you will imbibe this when the tree of love will bloom by itself you will give joy to others and you too will enjoy its fragrance. Except the ocean of love, you will not like anything. So, what you have to learn from Bajrangbali is His devotion and that power which He has given to you that nobody can touch you if your devotion is pure. Nobody can touch you. There are thousands of such examples in Sahaja Yoga. People call these miracles but I say that it is Shri Hanumanji's blessing. So, now I give My blessings and love to all of you. First love yourself and then others. It doesn't mean my son, my this No! No! No! It means selfless love. Love that expects no return, Which has no relation, is limitless. Such a power of love has come to you, use it. Lots of blessings! Anant Aashirvad (Limitless blessings). May God Bless You.

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Star TV Interview, Istanbul, Turkey, 01.04.1999 [Note: One Yogini did a live translation into English, but the questions are different from the original questions of the journalist in Turkish language. So, in the subtitles, only the original Turkish questions are translated. Some of the Turkish questions are not heard in the video, just the English tranlations can be heard.] Correspondent: They are picked from a garden, not bought from the florist. Yogini [pointing to the bouquet offered to Shri Mataji]: They are from garden Mother! They are from garden. Collected for You. Shri Mataji: Thank you, very kind of you. What‘s the name? What’s the name of these flowers? Sahaja Yogini: She is asking what the name of the flower is? Correspondent: I don`t know Shri Mataji: Thank you very much, thank you. Thank you very much, thank you. Please sit down. Correspondent: Here, the atmosphere here is talismanic as feeling like inside a lantern, for maybe this is psychologic or the natural ambiance of the environment. Sahaja Yogini (translates): He feels himself different here, different atmosphere maybe because of the mystic looking, he feels very relaxed and comfortable, very. Shri Mataji: Very good, absolutely good idea. Sahaja Yogini. This is a very good thing that you feel this! Correspondent: I wonder where Madame is coming from either the depths of Indian Ocean or pinnacles of Himalayas. Sahaja Yogini: He is wondering whether if You are coming from the bottom of the Indian Ocean, or are You coming from the top of the Himalayas. Shri Mataji: I am from the centre of India, just on the Tropic of Cancer. You see, tropic of cancer. Mecca is also on the Tropic of Cancer. That’s the only [sounds like ‘thing’] Sahaja Yogini: Tropic of Cancer? Shri Mataji: Yes, Cancer, what do you call - about 23 and a half degrees is called as the [Tropic of Cancer]. Sahaja Yogini: Turkish of cancer …. Shri Mataji: What do you call and about that, at ……. came down Correspondent: In fact, I intend to make a compliment. As She is very deep and a person in heights, I would like to compliment as how deep She is, how developed her inner being and how She is sitting ever highest peaks. I intended to make a compliment. Sahaja Yogini: Actually, it came from his heart! He wanted to make an esprit. He said you are coming from depth, the depth is coming from inside of you. He says like this. Shri Mataji: That’s true. India has a very deep culture, very deep spiritual culture. As you had Sufis here, we had many saints in our country. Correspondent: What is the content of sorrow and patience? Indeed, how sorrow and patience is described in this context? Sahaja Yogini translating: What is the state of suffering in the daily life? What is the meaning in life of suffering? Shri Mataji: It comes out of ignorance. Because of ignorance and you are so much involved in the worldly life, you see, that’s why you feel the suffering. But if you can rise above that, you don’t feel the sufferings at all. Sahaja Yogini: After these modern times, with the technology, people are getting more and more far from inside and from God and they are not connected. Shri Mataji: They feel the suffering sometimes. They feel the suffering of these modern times much more. Correspondent: There are coincidences in life important coincidences, are these coincidences in fact messages for human beings? Sahaja Yogini: There are coincidences in life. Are these coincidences giving a message to the people? Shri Mataji: Of course, of course. They are messages. They are messages for us, to guide. Sahaja Yogini: Do You mean when people get these messages, then they can progress towards God, to be closer and closer if they get the messages right? Shri Mataji: Especially if they get the desire – the desire to know why all these problems, desire to know the truth, you see. When that starts coming up, then you take to the path of seeking. Sahaja Yogini translating: God is always inside us, but the distance between God and us depends on what we do in our life. Is that right? Shri Mataji: Because you cannot feel your Spirit, that’s why. If you can feel your Self, if you know your Self, then you are absolutely close to God Almighty. Correspondent: Then in reality, worshipping is when a person set forth from his/her house, is his/her conducts towards human beings, attitude towards life, when arriving at home praying with open palms in fact the whole daily life is worshipping to the God. Is it not? Sahaja Yogini: In this case, praising to God means the way how we live our life, how we do the things… And even before go to bed, we open our hands and pray before we go to sleep. And to pray is the real praising of God. Shri Mataji: It's true, but your heart must be clean. If your heart is not clean and if you are just praying to God, God knows everything. Correspondent: We have to know that God knows. We must know that God knows. Human beings must feel that they are all the time under Gods governance Sahaja Yogini: We should know [that] God knows everything is inside us. Shri Mataji: Yes, He knows everything about us and He loves us. God loves us very much, He guides us. But if we do not want to listen to Him and want to listen to our own whims, then He says, “All right. Go ahead.” Correspondent: Does Madame like to watch movies? Sahaja Yogini: Do You like to watch movies? Shri Mataji: Do you like to? Sahaja Yogini: Do You like to watch movies, films? Shri Mataji: Sometimes, yes I do, if there is a good one. Sahaja Yogini: If there is beautiful films. Correspondent: For instance, did she watch the “Titanic” movie? Yogini translating: Did You see the movie ‘Titanic’? Shri Mataji: I did. I did. Correspondent: I would like to tell about a coincidence by the way, it was a film but a film that reflect the reality. As you know Titanic sank and there were two lovers. At that time, Rose was on the raft on ocean. Sahaja Yogini: From the movie Titanic, he was very impressed for one part when the Titanic was under the water, they were just holding some wooden sticks and so on, but it was very cold in the night while he was in the water and girl was sitting on it and in the morning time boy was frozen and then, until that time they couldn’t make other people hear that they need help. At the end, just at last moment, just from the near, at that moment they could hear that she was alive, there is just one person who is alive. Is this a blessing from God? Shri Mataji: Everything is a blessing from God and see the way He pay attention to things which are not important, then you suffer. Correspondent: Did you commit a sin ever? Sahaja Yogini: Do you have sins? Shri Mataji: What? Sahaja Yogini: Have you ever made sins? Shri Mataji: (just looks at them) Sahaja Yogi: Sin, have you ever sinned? Shri Mataji: I can’t, very difficult! Sahaja Yogini: Not possible for me. I can't. Correspondent: I apoligise asking a question like this, but all of us are beings created by God. Sometimes it may happen that we commit sins. Audience may wonder, that's why I ask. Sahaja Yogini: He says he is sorry to ask such a question to you but because all of us are created by God, we can make mistakes. That’s why he asked you if you ever made mistake. Shri Mataji: I have not. I mean, from the worldly point of view, maybe. But from God’s point of view, not. Correspondent: How She evaluates football? Is there any team that She supports in any country? Sahaja Yogini: For example, football. Are you interested in football? Is there any team which you are supporting? Shri Mataji: (Laughing) I never support any team, anywhere, because if you support, You cannot enjoy. You can keep a balance. When both parties are different things, I can never take ………??. Correspondent: I heard a sentence in a song, a singer said so, there is Armenian, Greek, Muslim, Christian but the rain falling above us, wets all of us. Sahaja Yogini: He heard a saying which he likes very much. There are Armenians, Turks and Christians, all the kinds but the rain always falls on all of them equally. Shri Mataji: They are always equal. This is all man-made differences. God has not made that. Because the thing that works out is your Realization, is the Kundalini, it's in all of you. Correspondent: We are all one for God but with our attitudes I am little away from God or I am a little closer to you or I am far away. We determine our proximity to God in fact. God is in equal distance to all of us. Sahaja Yogini: God has created us equally. Only we are making the difference between God and us, personally. Shri Mataji: That’s right. In a garden, you have all kinds of flowers but they grow out of the same Mother Earth, you see. So, there is no difference at all but in their own variety. To create a variety, the beauty of variety, there are different flowers. Sahaja Yogini: Some black, some pink, some of them pink, black, red, different, different colors, the humans. Shri Mataji: Yes, it is what it is, We are all like that also. There is no difference of each. They are all flowers, in the same way, we are only human beings, there is no difference. Correspondent: Sorry, Does the humans are establishing tomorrow with the actions of today? Sahaja Yogini: Are people preparing their future according to what they have done today? Shri Mataji: They are. They are looking for, lots of people are looking for truth or looking for reality, no doubt. Sahaja Yogini: What ever we do in this life, it also effects our children and whole society. Shri Mataji: Also society. Correspondent : Which kind of music Madame listens to? Now I am hearing a tune, this is probably Indian Music. Sahaja Yogini: What kind of music you like? Now we are listening. This must be Indian music. Shri Mataji: Every kind, I like Mozart, I like Vivaldi, I like every kind of music. Music is more beautiful, you see. There are different kinds, that’s all. I don’t like crazy loud ones. That breaks my ear. Sahaja Yogini: Actually he said, the music should enter from ears to the heart, some of the music are just remaining in the ears. Shri Mataji: No, no. Sahaja Yogini: Not going to heart. Shri Mataji: It blasts your heart Sahaja Yogini: Sorry? Shri Mataji: Blast, blast your heart Correspondent: What is your message for the human beings? Sahaja Yogini: What is your message for the human beings? Shri Mataji: My message is that all of you have within yourself a power, in the triangular bone known as sacrum,' which is responsible for your further evolution. And this gives you a new awareness within you when it is awakened, you get collectively conscious. This is like a connection you have (pointing out the mike the correspondent has) you see, you have to be connected with Divine Power of love which is 'Ruh'. Sahaja Yogini: Can we say for your Sahaja Yoga, it is the answer and the meaning of everything? Shri Mataji: Of course, of course. That is the solution. Because all problems are because of human beings who are ignorant. Once you become one with the Divine, all problems are solved. Correspondent: Does Madame likes Turkish dishes, except those ones or does She likes these ones? What kind of food does She eats? Sahaja Yogini: He would like to ask what do you like to eat in Turkey? Normally, he says all the foreigners they like to eat döner, sish kebab. Shri Mataji: I like all kind of Turkish food. I think it is the best in the whole world. Sahaja Yogini: He says, it is no to up us to obtain the timing when, how everything should happen. There is a power who does everything. In his life, until he was 45, everything was very difficult, struggling on the ground he says. After when he was 45, he said something must change and he says in his new life, this moment, the moment when he meets You, is the most special moment. This is a blessing from God and that’s why he is thanking to you. Shri Mataji: Thank you very much. Thank you very much to hear something like that. To me also, this is a great pleasure to meet you (looking at the yogini) because he is a very sensitive person. Yogini (to the correspondent): Sit comfortably. Are you comfortable? Shri Mataji: When you feel the cool breeze Sahaja Yogini: Admit when you feel the cool breeze in your hands? Correspondent: Cool breeze? Sahaja Yogini: Breeze of the Sprit. This is the breeze of the Sprit. Correspondent: Breeze of Spirit? Sahaja Yogini : Yes, Spirit. Shri Mataji: You can feel it at top of your head at the same time. Sahaja Yogini : Divine power. You can feel it at top of your head at the same time. Correspondent: I feel very strongly. Sahaja Yogini : He feels very strongly. Shri Mataji: This is the all-pervading power of Divine Love. Sahaja Yogini: Other people's Kundalini also can be awaken. Correspondent: Was that fast? Shri Mataji: This is the triangular bone (showing him on the Sahaj booklet) Sahaja Yogini : Look that this triangular bone what She points out. Shri Mataji: It raises through these six centers. Sahaja Yogini : It is rising piercing through six centers. Shri Mataji: Ultimately, it pierces this sixth center and then you felt it. Sahaja Yogini: And after the sixth center, it gets out on top of our head. That’s why we feel the the cool breeze. Correspondent: I got it. Shri Mataji: You can have this and you can feel it. Correspondent: Will you sign this? Shri Mataji: All right. Sahaja Yogini : It writes “ With my love and blessings. Mataji Nirmala Devi.” Correspondent: I will carry on my heart. Sahaja Yogini: I will keep it on my heart. Cameraman: (filming the book with a cover on which there is a picture of Ataturk, founder of Turkish Republic) Sahaja Yogini: Atatürk. Atatürk is regarded an enlightened Spirit. Shri Mataji: Atatürk was a Realized soul. Sahaja Yogini: ... Afraid. Shri Mataji: Afraid of what? Sahaja Yogini: Of a person Sahaja Yogini: He is asking if the cameraman can also get his Realization. Shri Mataji: His Self-realization. (Unaudible) Sahaja Yogini: Yes. Shri Mataji: Yes, why not. He is carrying something heavy on his shoulder. Can he keep it down for a while? Sahaja Yogini: Carrying a very heavy thing. He can leave it here. Shri Mataji: (showing Her picture) When this picture is taken we were in a boat. That is the day, 5th May. Sahaja Yogini:This is a picture that was taken on 5 th of May. Shri Mataji: They were all sitting here. Sahaja Yogini: This photograph was taken while so many people is sitting around my photograph. Shri Mataji: That was the day, once happened, 5th May. Sahaja Yogini: This one is on 5th of May, when She opens the Sahasrara [mistake from the Yogini]. Shri Mataji: It was in India. Sahaja Yogini: Was shoot in India. Shri Mataji: This happened much later. Sahaja Yogini: But the date of this shooting was ? Shri Mataji: We were here and we were going by boat and at the same time this took place. Sahaja Yogini: This Picture was shoot later, but on 5 th of May Sahaja Yogini: 5th May. Shri Mataji: Yes, fifth of May but much later, ten years later. Sahaja Yogini: 5th of May. 10 years later same day. A picture taken the day when she opens the Sahasrara. Correspondent: Lots of people around them are not visible in the picture. Sahaja Yogini: There are a lot of people sitting around but Shri Mataji: You can’t see them. They have all disappeared on the sides. Sahaja Yogini: Yes, lots of people around but they are not visible in the picture. Shri Mataji: This is the last photograph but there are others which show people first, and gradually they disappear. Sahaja Yogini: This is the last one shooted. People can be seen in the one taken few second before just one or two prior. As it goes at the end people can not be seen. Shri Mataji: This is another one with my sari, standing in the sea and this light appeared in the heart. On the heart. Sahaja Yogini: Here Shri Mataji stands near the see and there is light on Her heart. Correspondent: Yes. Shri Mataji: There are thousands of photographs, thousands of them. Sahaja Yogini: Thousand of this type of pictures exists. Shri Mataji: My whole face was covered with the light. Sahaja Yogini: Here, Shri Mataji: Very strong light but the flowers are all right there, nothing happens to them.

Star TV Interview, Istanbul, Turkey, 01.04.1999 [Note: One Yogini did a live translation into English, but the questions are different from the original questions of the journalist in Turkish language. So, in the subtitles, only the original Turkish questions are translated. Some of the Turkish questions are not heard in the video, just the English tranlations can be heard.] Correspondent: They are picked from a garden, not bought from the florist. Yogini [pointing to the bouquet offered to Shri Mataji]: They are from garden Mother! They are from garden. Collected for You. Shri Mataji: Thank you, very kind of you. What‘s the name? What’s the name of these flowers? Sahaja Yogini: She is asking what the name of the flower is? Correspondent: I don`t know Shri Mataji: Thank you very much, thank you. Thank you very much, thank you. Please sit down. Correspondent: Here, the atmosphere here is talismanic as feeling like inside a lantern, for maybe this is psychologic or the natural ambiance of the environment. Sahaja Yogini (translates): He feels himself different here, different atmosphere maybe because of the mystic looking, he feels very relaxed and comfortable, very. Shri Mataji: Very good, absolutely good idea. Sahaja Yogini. This is a very good thing that you feel this! Correspondent: I wonder where Madame is coming from either the depths of Indian Ocean or pinnacles of Himalayas. Sahaja Yogini: He is wondering whether if You are coming from the bottom of the Indian Ocean, or are You coming from the top of the Himalayas. Shri Mataji: I am from the centre of India, just on the Tropic of Cancer. You see, tropic of cancer. Mecca is also on the Tropic of Cancer. That’s the only [sounds like ‘thing’] Sahaja Yogini: Tropic of Cancer? Shri Mataji: Yes, Cancer, what do you call - about 23 and a half degrees is called as the [Tropic of Cancer]. Sahaja Yogini: Turkish of cancer …. Shri Mataji: What do you call and about that, at ……. came down Correspondent: In fact, I intend to make a compliment. As She is very deep and a person in heights, I would like to compliment as how deep She is, how developed her inner being and how She is sitting ever highest peaks. I intended to make a compliment. Sahaja Yogini: Actually, it came from his heart! He wanted to make an esprit. He said you are coming from depth, the depth is coming from inside of you. He says like this. Shri Mataji: That’s true. India has a very deep culture, very deep spiritual culture. As you had Sufis here, we had many saints in our country. Correspondent: What is the content of sorrow and patience? Indeed, how sorrow and patience is described in this context? Sahaja Yogini translating: What is the state of suffering in the daily life? What is the meaning in life of suffering? Shri Mataji: It comes out of ignorance. Because of ignorance and you are so much involved in the worldly life, you see, that’s why you feel the suffering. But if you can rise above that, you don’t feel the sufferings at all. Sahaja Yogini: After these modern times, with the technology, people are getting more and more far from inside and from God and they are not connected. Shri Mataji: They feel the suffering sometimes. They feel the suffering of these modern times much more. Correspondent: There are coincidences in life important coincidences, are these coincidences in fact messages for human beings? Sahaja Yogini: There are coincidences in life. Are these coincidences giving a message to the people? Shri Mataji: Of course, of course. They are messages. They are messages for us, to guide. Sahaja Yogini: Do You mean when people get these messages, then they can progress towards God, to be closer and closer if they get the messages right? Shri Mataji: Especially if they get the desire – the desire to know why all these problems, desire to know the truth, you see. When that starts coming up, then you take to the path of seeking. Sahaja Yogini translating: God is always inside us, but the distance between God and us depends on what we do in our life. Is that right? Shri Mataji: Because you cannot feel your Spirit, that’s why. If you can feel your Self, if you know your Self, then you are absolutely close to God Almighty. Correspondent: Then in reality, worshipping is when a person set forth from his/her house, is his/her conducts towards human beings, attitude towards life, when arriving at home praying with open palms in fact the whole daily life is worshipping to the God. Is it not? Sahaja Yogini: In this case, praising to God means the way how we live our life, how we do the things… And even before go to bed, we open our hands and pray before we go to sleep. And to pray is the real praising of God. Shri Mataji: It's true, but your heart must be clean. If your heart is not clean and if you are just praying to God, God knows everything. Correspondent: We have to know that God knows. We must know that God knows. Human beings must feel that they are all the time under Gods governance Sahaja Yogini: We should know [that] God knows everything is inside us. Shri Mataji: Yes, He knows everything about us and He loves us. God loves us very much, He guides us. But if we do not want to listen to Him and want to listen to our own whims, then He says, “All right. Go ahead.” Correspondent: Does Madame like to watch movies? Sahaja Yogini: Do You like to watch movies? Shri Mataji: Do you like to? Sahaja Yogini: Do You like to watch movies, films? Shri Mataji: Sometimes, yes I do, if there is a good one. Sahaja Yogini: If there is beautiful films. Correspondent: For instance, did she watch the “Titanic” movie? Yogini translating: Did You see the movie ‘Titanic’? Shri Mataji: I did. I did. Correspondent: I would like to tell about a coincidence by the way, it was a film but a film that reflect the reality. As you know Titanic sank and there were two lovers. At that time, Rose was on the raft on ocean. Sahaja Yogini: From the movie Titanic, he was very impressed for one part when the Titanic was under the water, they were just holding some wooden sticks and so on, but it was very cold in the night while he was in the water and girl was sitting on it and in the morning time boy was frozen and then, until that time they couldn’t make other people hear that they need help. At the end, just at last moment, just from the near, at that moment they could hear that she was alive, there is just one person who is alive. Is this a blessing from God? Shri Mataji: Everything is a blessing from God and see the way He pay attention to things which are not important, then you suffer. Correspondent: Did you commit a sin ever? Sahaja Yogini: Do you have sins? Shri Mataji: What? Sahaja Yogini: Have you ever made sins? Shri Mataji: (just looks at them) Sahaja Yogi: Sin, have you ever sinned? Shri Mataji: I can’t, very difficult! Sahaja Yogini: Not possible for me. I can't. Correspondent: I apoligise asking a question like this, but all of us are beings created by God. Sometimes it may happen that we commit sins. Audience may wonder, that's why I ask. Sahaja Yogini: He says he is sorry to ask such a question to you but because all of us are created by God, we can make mistakes. That’s why he asked you if you ever made mistake. Shri Mataji: I have not. I mean, from the worldly point of view, maybe. But from God’s point of view, not. Correspondent: How She evaluates football? Is there any team that She supports in any country? Sahaja Yogini: For example, football. Are you interested in football? Is there any team which you are supporting? Shri Mataji: (Laughing) I never support any team, anywhere, because if you support, You cannot enjoy. You can keep a balance. When both parties are different things, I can never take ………??. Correspondent: I heard a sentence in a song, a singer said so, there is Armenian, Greek, Muslim, Christian but the rain falling above us, wets all of us. Sahaja Yogini: He heard a saying which he likes very much. There are Armenians, Turks and Christians, all the kinds but the rain always falls on all of them equally. Shri Mataji: They are always equal. This is all man-made differences. God has not made that. Because the thing that works out is your Realization, is the Kundalini, it's in all of you. Correspondent: We are all one for God but with our attitudes I am little away from God or I am a little closer to you or I am far away. We determine our proximity to God in fact. God is in equal distance to all of us. Sahaja Yogini: God has created us equally. Only we are making the difference between God and us, personally. Shri Mataji: That’s right. In a garden, you have all kinds of flowers but they grow out of the same Mother Earth, you see. So, there is no difference at all but in their own variety. To create a variety, the beauty of variety, there are different flowers. Sahaja Yogini: Some black, some pink, some of them pink, black, red, different, different colors, the humans. Shri Mataji: Yes, it is what it is, We are all like that also. There is no difference of each. They are all flowers, in the same way, we are only human beings, there is no difference. Correspondent: Sorry, Does the humans are establishing tomorrow with the actions of today? Sahaja Yogini: Are people preparing their future according to what they have done today? Shri Mataji: They are. They are looking for, lots of people are looking for truth or looking for reality, no doubt. Sahaja Yogini: What ever we do in this life, it also effects our children and whole society. Shri Mataji: Also society. Correspondent : Which kind of music Madame listens to? Now I am hearing a tune, this is probably Indian Music. Sahaja Yogini: What kind of music you like? Now we are listening. This must be Indian music. Shri Mataji: Every kind, I like Mozart, I like Vivaldi, I like every kind of music. Music is more beautiful, you see. There are different kinds, that’s all. I don’t like crazy loud ones. That breaks my ear. Sahaja Yogini: Actually he said, the music should enter from ears to the heart, some of the music are just remaining in the ears. Shri Mataji: No, no. Sahaja Yogini: Not going to heart. Shri Mataji: It blasts your heart Sahaja Yogini: Sorry? Shri Mataji: Blast, blast your heart Correspondent: What is your message for the human beings? Sahaja Yogini: What is your message for the human beings? Shri Mataji: My message is that all of you have within yourself a power, in the triangular bone known as sacrum,' which is responsible for your further evolution. And this gives you a new awareness within you when it is awakened, you get collectively conscious. This is like a connection you have (pointing out the mike the correspondent has) you see, you have to be connected with Divine Power of love which is 'Ruh'. Sahaja Yogini: Can we say for your Sahaja Yoga, it is the answer and the meaning of everything? Shri Mataji: Of course, of course. That is the solution. Because all problems are because of human beings who are ignorant. Once you become one with the Divine, all problems are solved. Correspondent: Does Madame likes Turkish dishes, except those ones or does She likes these ones? What kind of food does She eats? Sahaja Yogini: He would like to ask what do you like to eat in Turkey? Normally, he says all the foreigners they like to eat döner, sish kebab. Shri Mataji: I like all kind of Turkish food. I think it is the best in the whole world. Sahaja Yogini: He says, it is no to up us to obtain the timing when, how everything should happen. There is a power who does everything. In his life, until he was 45, everything was very difficult, struggling on the ground he says. After when he was 45, he said something must change and he says in his new life, this moment, the moment when he meets You, is the most special moment. This is a blessing from God and that’s why he is thanking to you. Shri Mataji: Thank you very much. Thank you very much to hear something like that. To me also, this is a great pleasure to meet you (looking at the yogini) because he is a very sensitive person. Yogini (to the correspondent): Sit comfortably. Are you comfortable? Shri Mataji: When you feel the cool breeze Sahaja Yogini: Admit when you feel the cool breeze in your hands? Correspondent: Cool breeze? Sahaja Yogini: Breeze of the Sprit. This is the breeze of the Sprit. Correspondent: Breeze of Spirit? Sahaja Yogini : Yes, Spirit. Shri Mataji: You can feel it at top of your head at the same time. Sahaja Yogini : Divine power. You can feel it at top of your head at the same time. Correspondent: I feel very strongly. Sahaja Yogini : He feels very strongly. Shri Mataji: This is the all-pervading power of Divine Love. Sahaja Yogini: Other people's Kundalini also can be awaken. Correspondent: Was that fast? Shri Mataji: This is the triangular bone (showing him on the Sahaj booklet) Sahaja Yogini : Look that this triangular bone what She points out. Shri Mataji: It raises through these six centers. Sahaja Yogini : It is rising piercing through six centers. Shri Mataji: Ultimately, it pierces this sixth center and then you felt it. Sahaja Yogini: And after the sixth center, it gets out on top of our head. That’s why we feel the the cool breeze. Correspondent: I got it. Shri Mataji: You can have this and you can feel it. Correspondent: Will you sign this? Shri Mataji: All right. Sahaja Yogini : It writes “ With my love and blessings. Mataji Nirmala Devi.” Correspondent: I will carry on my heart. Sahaja Yogini: I will keep it on my heart. Cameraman: (filming the book with a cover on which there is a picture of Ataturk, founder of Turkish Republic) Sahaja Yogini: Atatürk. Atatürk is regarded an enlightened Spirit. Shri Mataji: Atatürk was a Realized soul. Sahaja Yogini: ... Afraid. Shri Mataji: Afraid of what? Sahaja Yogini: Of a person Sahaja Yogini: He is asking if the cameraman can also get his Realization. Shri Mataji: His Self-realization. (Unaudible) Sahaja Yogini: Yes. Shri Mataji: Yes, why not. He is carrying something heavy on his shoulder. Can he keep it down for a while? Sahaja Yogini: Carrying a very heavy thing. He can leave it here. Shri Mataji: (showing Her picture) When this picture is taken we were in a boat. That is the day, 5th May. Sahaja Yogini:This is a picture that was taken on 5 th of May. Shri Mataji: They were all sitting here. Sahaja Yogini: This photograph was taken while so many people is sitting around my photograph. Shri Mataji: That was the day, once happened, 5th May. Sahaja Yogini: This one is on 5th of May, when She opens the Sahasrara [mistake from the Yogini]. Shri Mataji: It was in India. Sahaja Yogini: Was shoot in India. Shri Mataji: This happened much later. Sahaja Yogini: But the date of this shooting was ? Shri Mataji: We were here and we were going by boat and at the same time this took place. Sahaja Yogini: This Picture was shoot later, but on 5 th of May Sahaja Yogini: 5th May. Shri Mataji: Yes, fifth of May but much later, ten years later. Sahaja Yogini: 5th of May. 10 years later same day. A picture taken the day when she opens the Sahasrara. Correspondent: Lots of people around them are not visible in the picture. Sahaja Yogini: There are a lot of people sitting around but Shri Mataji: You can’t see them. They have all disappeared on the sides. Sahaja Yogini: Yes, lots of people around but they are not visible in the picture. Shri Mataji: This is the last photograph but there are others which show people first, and gradually they disappear. Sahaja Yogini: This is the last one shooted. People can be seen in the one taken few second before just one or two prior. As it goes at the end people can not be seen. Shri Mataji: This is another one with my sari, standing in the sea and this light appeared in the heart. On the heart. Sahaja Yogini: Here Shri Mataji stands near the see and there is light on Her heart. Correspondent: Yes. Shri Mataji: There are thousands of photographs, thousands of them. Sahaja Yogini: Thousand of this type of pictures exists. Shri Mataji: My whole face was covered with the light. Sahaja Yogini: Here, Shri Mataji: Very strong light but the flowers are all right there, nothing happens to them.

4/18/1999

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Akshaya Tritiya Puja Talk

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4/25/1999

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Easter Puja: We have to establish our meditation

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Easter puja. Istanbul (Turkey), 25 April 1999. Today, we are all here assembled in Turkey, in Istanbul, to celebrate the resurrection of Christ and, with that also, your celebration of your resurrection. Christ’s resurrection was a great message for us. He won over the death and came out of that dead body with another body which was living body. The body was the same, but one was a dead body and another one was a body which was living. It’s not only symbolic, it actually happened within. After all, He was a divine child, He was a divine person. Actually it has happened within. It’s not just a symbolic thing that He died and He was resurrected into another person or, you can say, into a living person. For Him, what is the death? For eternal beings, there are no deaths. There’s no death for a person who’s eternal. He may, for the time being, look as if He is dead, but He can never die. Christ was like that, a very, very special incarnation, which came on this earth to be reborn out of the dead. Now we are also, when we are not yet realised souls, when we are not yet enlightened. We are also dead in the sense, our awareness is very, very... I should say, absolutely dull and dead. We can see flowers, we can see faces, we can see buildings, we can see cities, we can see all those things. All these things we see and we feel we are quite aware, which we are not. Actual awareness comes to us when we cross the limits of our mind, go beyond the mind, and this was only possible because of the resurrection of Christ. He resurrected Himself because He was a divine person. But also we are resurrected because we are blessed by Divinity. Now this mind of ours, which is in between, is controlled by Shri Jesus Christ. He controls through your Agnya, both the sides. He controls your conditionings and He controls your ego and brings a balance in you. But when this Agnya Chakra starts sprinkling, all sorts of ideas, sometimes reacting, sometimes accepting conditionings… it is a slave, it is not a free thing, because it is working under the influence of your ego or your superego. For that is the death of our awareness, that we cannot, we cannot understand something beyond. That there exists a life beyond this, we cannot accept, this is... We have seen now that we were all in a condition that one was deadened. We were feeling bad, we were feeling anxious, we were fighting and we were thinking: "There’s something wrong with our present life." There’s something definitely which makes us slave, by which we are slavish. That we realised, no doubt, and we started seeking the Truth. We started seeking the Truth in so many ways, I know so many were... also went astray, and they lost their balance and have fallen into a complete demise. But so many of you have been salvaged, have been saved by the great example of Christ’s resurrection. He had to venture it, He had to do it and He worked it out. Without Him, our Agnya would not have been that flexible. As it is, the human beings in the olden times were conditioned very much. And when they have become modern, they are full of ego, nothing in between. With these two influences, we are imprisoned, we are absolutely dead people. We have no sensitivity for anything. I’ve seen now... even today, you can see about things are happening across, is people are very anxious to kill each other. Human beings want to kill human beings, can you imagine? Such a stupid thing that we should kill our kith and kin. Then, there are children who are killing, parents that are killing, no relationship is accepted. It’s a sign of a person whose awareness is completely dead. In our awareness, at least we should have feelings of compassion and love. But that one is lost, it’s not there, we don’t have it. The whole world is a flame, when you read about all the wars that are going, the way they are killing children, the way they are destroying human beings. It is a wrong attitude that with destruction of human beings, things will improve. It’s a very, very wrong concept that by destroying them, one can achieve something. Our work in Sahaja Yoga is doing well, I must say, but it has to stop this horrible attitude of human beings to destroy. So you might ask then: "What to do, Mother? What to do to destroy this destruction?" Answer is in the life of Christ. You resurrect people, you resurrect them, enlighten them, bring to a state where they understand what is right and what is wrong. Let them feel, let them feel the compassion and love that is within you. When that starts, that third force within us starts acting, our ego also comes down, our conditionings also come down. For example, if you think: "We are Muslims, we have a right to kill others", if you think: "We are Jews, we have a right to kill others." All these differentiations and this kind of discrimination that we have is so stupid, because you are human beings, they are human beings. You are killing human beings! Not that they have committed any sin or they have done anything wrong, except that, in their foolishness, they believe that they are this and they are that. You are not! You are just human beings. In every human being, as you know very well, there is Kundalini. There’s no discrimination, everyone, whether you are a Muslim, a Jew, Hindu, Christian, Sikh, Parsee, anyone, you may call by any name. Now just look at how we accept a certain denomination for ourselves! You are born, say, to a Christian family or you are born to a Hindu family: immediately you start thinking you are there to uphold all the flags of that religion in which you are born. You are born in that religion without your knowledge, without your permission, without any understanding. So how can you belong to that religion? You have got Kundalini, everybody else has got Kundalini. So you can only belong to the religion of humanity, where every human being has got Kundalini. So, you are nothing but human beings. All these false ideas, that: "We are Hindus, we are Muslims, we are Christians", is all man-created. I mean, man can create anything, and human beings have no brain to understand that is all man creating. For example, you see in America, they create associations and big organisations and all that, based on absolute falsehood, absolute wrong ideas, absolute destructiveness, but they form it, they form their groups, they have this, they have... and they are prospering. But it has a repercussion, they don’t know. If you start doing such false things against human beings who are created by God, and nobody can destroy them, then there are repercussions. Many, many countries who were, once upon a time, rulers, were known as great things, have come down. And all such countries who now think they are very rich and all that, will have to come down. All of them have to come down, is just an ultimate result of this stupidity to believe that you are higher than others, than you can kill others. So, a non-violent method started which is of another absurdity, I think, because then they start saving mosquitoes and also the bugs, while mosquitoes and bugs are, you must know, are the greatest blood-suckers. They live only on human blood. Such things, what’s the use of saving them? So, human beings take to something that is absurd, stupid, foolish. I don’t know what is the reason. The way they accept things is absolutely unbelievable. I think it is a kind of a slavish mentality which does not give them freedom to think what is right, what is wrong. For this, we have Christ. We have Christ, a person who was absolutely free, free from all kinds of prejudices, all kinds of temptations, all kinds of nonsense that human beings follow. But one may say that: "Mother, after all, He was divine!" He was divine and now you are made divine also. So, how can we now join together to make a full effort, a full effort, to tell people that: "What are you doing? Why are you doing it? What is the need to do such things?" On one side is, we can say, a mass destruction through stupidity, another side is your own self-destruction. Take to drinking, take to other self-destructive things which are immoral, that’s very easily available, and people like it very much. They don’t like when you talk that: "This is destructive." So, either we destroy others or destroy ourselves. Christ was destroyed by others and He resurrected by Himself. So we are also in the same position now. I know many a times Sahaja Yoga was challenged. Now it’s much better, not so bad... was challenged and there were so many problems. But it’s smoothing down, because that’s the Truth, that’s the Reality, that’s what is Divinity. So, you should not be afraid. All these funny ideas about Sahaja Yoga also will die out. It’s a resurrection, not only of you people, but also of your ideologies. Now the ideologies change, that our awareness should be enlightened. We should have light in our awareness. This has come only through Sahaja Yoga, that: "If you don’t have the light, how can you go further in the right path?" It’s not easy to describe Christ’s life, how He went through that. He died so young and brutally He was killed. But still all that, He resurrected Himself. He came out of all that, came out of that ordeal. So for us also, when we are in Sahaja Yoga problems, we should know we have a power to resurrect ourselves. No one can destroy us! No one can finish us off, because we have a power to resurrect ourselves. This special power that we have to resurrect, you should all the time understand and feel it and meditate on that. I hear from people from every country: "The government is doing like this, the government is doing like this!" or they are having some trouble, they call you a sect, they call you this and that... Alright, doesn’t matter! Your duty is to believe that you are following the foot steps of Christ. And no one can destroy it! This is the message of Christ’s life, that divine life cannot be destroyed. When this body could not be destroyed, then how can you destroy the divine light in Him? So many Sahaja Yogis are here, who have been since long in Sahaja Yoga, and they have had problems, and they went through lot of troubles, I agree! But all these things have subsided. And now you are in such a resurrected position that, after some time, -you’ll be amazed- Sahaja Yoga will take over, all over the world. All over the world, people will take to Sahaja Yoga and we’ll have such a lot of Sahaja Yogis all over the world that all this minority of some stupid people will disappear. For that, what have you to do? Sometimes, people ask Me: "What do we have to do?" You must have also read the Bible, that Christ prayed and He was praying. In the same way, we can say, we have to meditate. Through meditation, we’ll grow in our awareness, in our new personality, in our strengthened personality. Meditation is the only way we can grow, and then no one can destroy you, because you are all protected by the Divine Love. You don’t have to worry as to who will destroy you, what will happen. Of course, in the beginning there’s little agitation, people feel a little bad about it, it’s alright! But actually, NO ONE can destroy you. Have this faith in you! Christ had no organisation, He had no Adi Shakti to support Him, in no way. But only through His divine personality, He managed to get out of all the problems, of all the tortures, of all the atrocities on Him. So now, you have better advantage, because you are enlightened. Firstly, He was a divine person and He could go through that. You don’t have to! Nobody will torture you, nobody will put you in jail, nobody will crucify you. Nobody will, that’s not possible. But mentally, if you are upset, sometimes you get upset I know, in certain countries people get upset, because they think they are oppressed, they think they are in Sahaja Yoga. I assure you, no one can do that. You must know that you are all the time protected. Christ is there as your elder brother, I always said that. But also you have your Mother, and you have all the Ganas and all the Angels around you. When I see this, I just thought: "Look at this, in every country they have shown Angels and Ganas are there!" Such pure forms of protection you have. So there’s nothing to worry about your destruction or your impediments, or whatever you may call it, a kind of destructive forces acting on you. From the life of Christ, you have to know that no one can destroy a realised soul in these modern times. As it is, they never destroy her. We had so many Saints who were killed, who were tortured, but see, they still exist as poetry, as poems, also as blessings, everywhere they are not finished. They are not dead, though it seems that they are no more, but even to take their names and even to call them, they work out. They are there in their Spirit and they help. Assured by Christ’s life, by His resurrection, we are resurrected people. Of course, our body also has changed. After resurrection, you know that your Chakras work out all the curing and all the blessings. Our attitude, our mental attitude also changes, and also your ego subsides. Not only that, also our conditionings go out. Specially I was so happy that those people, say, who are born in a particular religion, immediately they see what’s wrong with that religion, as if they turn round and see the image of their society and know what’s wrong with them. And when they start meditating on those corrections, it works, societies are improving. You see, so-called religious ideas are falling into their own traps, and they will all fall because they're falsehood. That’s not real religion. The religion is within ourselves and this pure religion is the one which is a global religion. The solution comes like that: supposing you have wars... wars in the name of religion, in the name of God specially. And in the name of religions they have wars. So now, what happens? All these wars that take place cannot destroy Reality, cannot destroy the Truth. This is another message of Christ’s resurrection. You cannot! You may think that today you have destroyed these people, but they are there. All the Saints, all the great people who have been resurrected in life are all the time there. Their protections are there, their guidance is there, you can see them in a way that they are there. So one should have no fear. The fear of death has to go. So many of them have said the same that: "What is death after all?" Death dies itself, once you are resurrected. So one should not be afraid of death. Now how many of you have been afraid of death before your resurrection, but not now? You are not bothered as to when the death comes, what happens or which way you are going to be so-called destroyed. You know you cannot be destroyed. In your heart of hearts, you all know this very well, that you cannot be destroyed. The fear of our destruction goes away, no doubt. But there is one thing, is the compassion. When you see all these bad things are happening and people are being tortured, your mind is... you see... cannot take it for granted. It starts responding to that, and it feels the pain of others, tremendous! But as a result of that, your will power, your thinking on those lines, your tears even are powerful and they can bring solace to those people who are suffering unnecessarily. You have to experiment with it. Just having a feeling of compassion, things will improve. Now, as it is, we meditate. But we can meditate also with such compassion and such love that your tears can also have an effect on these people who are so cruel and stupid and killing each other. But it is important for you to know that now you are not an individual, but you have become a global personality, a global personality. You are not an individual, you are a global personality, and sitting down here, you are working out all the global problems. You are not a small person now, who’s only worried about your own children, about your family, about this and that, no! This mind of yours has expanded, expanded like this, that it works automatically for all the problems of the world. When for a woman I read newspapers, specially women seldom read newspapers, but I read, read and I read those where My attention is in it. I’ve seen it works! But all of you put together, if you understand that this is your responsibility to correct all the destructive forces, to put them right, we just have to collectively meditate on the points where you find there’s a big problem. Now the problem is mainly because of religions, mainly. Now, if they can all jump into the new religion, global religion, they all are one. They cannot then fight because there’s one religion. But they don’t want to have one religion, because they want to fight. They’re fighting cocks. But if they come to Sahaj, if they become enlightened, then they will only enjoy love of each other and not killing of each other, destruction of others. And this is what we have to learn from life of Christ, who was alone, who was single. He did not have such a collective behind Him. But how powerful He was that He fought the death and came out of it so clearly at the stage of Agnya! Without Him, we could not have worked out Sahaja Yoga. Kundalini would not have gone through, unless and until He had sacrificed His life. And He really sacrificed, He accepted the task of sacrificing His life, and then resurrected. He passed through that, I should say, very constricted channel of Agnya, to put you people right, by saying: "You forgive everyone." If forgiving was such a powerful thing that you can even fight your death, then why not forgive? Many people say: "Mother, we can’t forgive!" and I’ve told hundred times that: "What are you doing if not forgiving?" So, the message of Christ’s life is that He forgot, forgave all the people who troubled Him. Even He said that: "O God, please forgive them, because they don’t know what they are doing!" On the cross, He said those things, when He was tortured, insulted, He’s saying what? "You forgive them, have pity, have sympathy for them, because they don’t know what they are doing!" They are killing the Son of God, and what will happen to them? Where will they go? What will be their situation? This one is a big message for us, that even on the cross, He said: "Forgive, O God, O Father, forgive them!" In the same way, we have to also forgive people. It’s very important from the life of Christ that we have to forgive. His forgiveness was of the greatest importance. For the whole world to understand, you must forgive. If you learn how to forgive, you’ll be amazed, half of the wars of this world will be finished! Now, something happened thousands of years back. Still people are fighting, still they are fighting, thinking these things happened so many years back, so they are ended. If He can really forgive those people, what happened before we were even born, why should we form a group of such people, why? Because there is something called hatred in human beings, they have hatred, hatred for this, hatred for that, even in small things they’ll say: "I don’t like it, I like it!" It’s very common, nowadays specially. When we were young, we were not supposed to say such a thing: "I don’t like it, I like it!", we were not supposed to say. But now their freedom has given them to talk like this: "I don’t like it, I don’t like that, I don’t like that, I don’t like that person!" Who are you? What do you think of yourself to judge others? You don’t know how to appreciate, you don’t know how to enjoy and only what you go on is: "I don’t like it!" And supposing you like it, what will you do? Whether you like it or don’t like is just the same! But just to show off their ego, we say: "I don’t like this way, I don’t like!" Because there’s no love! If there is love, then you can enjoy everything. We’ll never say: "I don’t like it, I like it!" You will definitely enjoy if you really say that: "I enjoy, I enjoy everything!" You are closing down yourself by saying: "I don’t like it, I don’t like it, I don’t like!" as if you are a great connoisseur, or a person, a judge, to say this! It is very remarkable that in the West it’s even more prominent that they will say: "I don’t like it, I don’t like!" Of course, in the East, I would say in India, if somebody says like that, people will say he’s just trying to show off on the face. But showing off is not regarded as bad manners. It’s not regarded as bad manners in the West. To feel shy of anything is regarded as bad manners, but to boast of something, nobody feels that it is a bad thing. Did Christ boast of anything? Never! He never boasted of anything, but when He saw people were selling things in the holy places, what did He do? He started beating them with a hunter, because that was wrong, absolutely wrong, against the holiness of the place. But He did not say: "I don’t like it!" No! He just showed His complete disapproval of the whole system of selling things in a temple or in a holy place. People go there to worship. They need a mind which is devoid of money orientation. There should be no money orientation when you are meditating. This is the biggest problem of today. Everything is money orientation. You like a car which is very expensive, so you want to have. By hook and crook, you will get that car and sit in there. You might be a thief, but you buy an expensive car to show off, perhaps maybe because you are a thief, that’s why you want to hide your personality. So there is no truthful life, it’s all just showing off and thinking no end of yourself. But when the death will come at your doorstep, what will you do? At that time, you will be trembling with all your so-called achievements and your so-called showing off. You will just tremble before death. But a Sahaja Yogi cannot! He will like, if the death has to come, it has to come! He will not tremble that the death is something dangerous, but is a place where he can go and rest. He won’t mind, he won’t mind anything, because he is above that, he is above destruction. So, he won’t mind anything, whatever comes his way and he will surrender to it easily. We have Kabir. Kabir has written so many poems, mostly about death. He said: "When death came, I didn’t say a single word, I didn’t fight, but what I did, I took a sheet on top of me and went off to sleep!" How sweetly he described death sometimes, and Kabir then reminds Me of Christ. How sweetly Christ also went through all these things, and when He died, the whole elements shook. He was the master of elements. They shook, there was earthquake and all kinds of things that happened. They, they felt His death, not Him! They felt that such a great divinity which is the essence of existence has been killed like this. They also didn’t know that He is going to come back to His life. They also were not aware of it, but He did. He did come out of that deadened thing, for which everybody was so much shocked. His death itself gives us strength, that we have no death, we have resurrected and resurrection is with us. But we have to establish our Sahaja Yoga, our meditation. That’s very important. The other day, I met a lady. She told of a miracle in her life, how she was saved. She was about to die, she came across an accident, all kind... But how she was saved, while her husband, he succumbs to all kinds of things. So I said: "What do you mean, how it happened?" She said: "Mother, it’s nothing but Shraddha!" Shraddha is meditation, surrendering. "Surrendering, because I’m surrendered!" But I said: "How?" "That, I don’t know, I’m just surrendered. I feel so comfortable, so lively and so much out of fear when I know I’m surrendered, completely surrendered to my Spirit!" And this what it is what we have to learn when we meditate, that we have to surrender. Muhammad has called "Islam". Islam means surrender, though they don’t surrender -otherwise you see...- but what is that you must surrender to your global nature, to your higher nature. You must not die out, you mustn’t fizzle out into these worldly turmoil and worldly things. It’s a very strength-giving example of Christ. And He’s with us, He will always guide us, He’ll look after us, not only but He’ll give us strength. He will destroy all those who will be against eternal life. He’ll destroy nonsensical things. And you are seeing now how in Kali Yuga all these institutions who talk of religion and fights are getting destroyed. Automatically, we have done nothing. On their own only, while they’re doing, they are finishing, because there’s no Reality, there’s no Spirit in it, and without the Spirit, what is left is nothing but a dead body. The whole understanding should be for Sahaja Yogis, that we have to be Spirit-oriented, not money-oriented, body-oriented, emotion-oriented, but Spirit-oriented, which is a joy-giving thing. And you’ll be surprised with that orientation, you will be the most happy, most loving, most beautiful person. Immediately, people will know around that there’s something about this man, some spark about this lady, some sort of a spark that she is or he is so much different from us. It can be recognised in no time. Now, at the time of Christ, very few people could recognise, because they were not enlightened, because they were very much below the level of human beings, I should say. But you are not! You are quite aware, you are born in modern times, and at this time, when we think of Christ, we should know what a life it was, what a grand personality it was, that He subjected to this kind of a torture. He could have destroyed all of them in no time. He was so powerful, such a powerful personality, but He did not! He forgave them. He gave you the message of forgiveness, the greatest force that can work out. Now also, you should surrender yourself to this idea of forgiveness and really try to forgive. You’ll be amazed, you will feel very much peaceful, very happy, and the person who has tortured you will come round. What we have to do is now to transform people. That’s our job. We have to transform them. We are transformed. We are at a point, we can call it, we are resurrected. We have to resurrect the whole world, that’s our job, so that all these fights, all these quarrels, all these falsehoods will just be finished. For us, Christ is our leader, who has done this for us. He came as an ordinary human being, lived like an ordinary human being, with all these powers within Him. He never used them to destroy. In the same way, we can also with love and affection, we can also really come out of our deaths, come out of our misgivings, come out of our destructive nature. This destructive nature is the most dangerous thing for Yogis. That’s the only hope we have, that Sahaja Yogis are resurrected. Only thing I know is that, if we have so many Sahaja Yogis, this world will change. This world has to change. But your progress should go on, you should progress more and more, not you should not regress back. For small things here and there, don’t worry! You have a very great responsibility, and that responsibility is to transform the human beings. That’s your duty. How many have you transformed? How many have you changed? It’s all right for men or women. You have to change people, this is your job and this is the power you have got from Christ, that you have to change them, transform them into the new world of happiness and joy which we call it as the Sahaj Nirmal Dharma. If it works out, if it really works out, think of the world, how beautiful it will become for us! It’s the duty of every Sahaja Yogi to go into this kind of a new venture and try to find out how many people he can convert and how many people he can bring round. I hope next time we’ll have doubled the number of people that are here from all these eight countries who are hosting now. All My love to you all. Great days are waiting us. We have to now understand only our responsibility. Main thing is how many people we have converted, how many people we have resurrected. That is the record, not what, how many Pujas you have attended and all that. It’s not so important. Pujas are just to give you strength and to give you power, but they are not your work. That’s not your work. For your work, you can take from Pujas all the strength that you need. But if you don’t use this power, then what’s the use? So now, I leave it to you to remember that you are resurrected and you have to resurrect others. It’s a very, very important job at this time of complete turmoil and destruction. May God bless you!

Easter puja. Istanbul (Turkey), 25 April 1999. Today, we are all here assembled in Turkey, in Istanbul, to celebrate the resurrection of Christ and, with that also, your celebration of your resurrection. Christ’s resurrection was a great message for us. He won over the death and came out of that dead body with another body which was living body. The body was the same, but one was a dead body and another one was a body which was living. It’s not only symbolic, it actually happened within. After all, He was a divine child, He was a divine person. Actually it has happened within. It’s not just a symbolic thing that He died and He was resurrected into another person or, you can say, into a living person. For Him, what is the death? For eternal beings, there are no deaths. There’s no death for a person who’s eternal. He may, for the time being, look as if He is dead, but He can never die. Christ was like that, a very, very special incarnation, which came on this earth to be reborn out of the dead. Now we are also, when we are not yet realised souls, when we are not yet enlightened. We are also dead in the sense, our awareness is very, very... I should say, absolutely dull and dead. We can see flowers, we can see faces, we can see buildings, we can see cities, we can see all those things. All these things we see and we feel we are quite aware, which we are not. Actual awareness comes to us when we cross the limits of our mind, go beyond the mind, and this was only possible because of the resurrection of Christ. He resurrected Himself because He was a divine person. But also we are resurrected because we are blessed by Divinity. Now this mind of ours, which is in between, is controlled by Shri Jesus Christ. He controls through your Agnya, both the sides. He controls your conditionings and He controls your ego and brings a balance in you. But when this Agnya Chakra starts sprinkling, all sorts of ideas, sometimes reacting, sometimes accepting conditionings… it is a slave, it is not a free thing, because it is working under the influence of your ego or your superego. For that is the death of our awareness, that we cannot, we cannot understand something beyond. That there exists a life beyond this, we cannot accept, this is... We have seen now that we were all in a condition that one was deadened. We were feeling bad, we were feeling anxious, we were fighting and we were thinking: "There’s something wrong with our present life." There’s something definitely which makes us slave, by which we are slavish. That we realised, no doubt, and we started seeking the Truth. We started seeking the Truth in so many ways, I know so many were... also went astray, and they lost their balance and have fallen into a complete demise. But so many of you have been salvaged, have been saved by the great example of Christ’s resurrection. He had to venture it, He had to do it and He worked it out. Without Him, our Agnya would not have been that flexible. As it is, the human beings in the olden times were conditioned very much. And when they have become modern, they are full of ego, nothing in between. With these two influences, we are imprisoned, we are absolutely dead people. We have no sensitivity for anything. I’ve seen now... even today, you can see about things are happening across, is people are very anxious to kill each other. Human beings want to kill human beings, can you imagine? Such a stupid thing that we should kill our kith and kin. Then, there are children who are killing, parents that are killing, no relationship is accepted. It’s a sign of a person whose awareness is completely dead. In our awareness, at least we should have feelings of compassion and love. But that one is lost, it’s not there, we don’t have it. The whole world is a flame, when you read about all the wars that are going, the way they are killing children, the way they are destroying human beings. It is a wrong attitude that with destruction of human beings, things will improve. It’s a very, very wrong concept that by destroying them, one can achieve something. Our work in Sahaja Yoga is doing well, I must say, but it has to stop this horrible attitude of human beings to destroy. So you might ask then: "What to do, Mother? What to do to destroy this destruction?" Answer is in the life of Christ. You resurrect people, you resurrect them, enlighten them, bring to a state where they understand what is right and what is wrong. Let them feel, let them feel the compassion and love that is within you. When that starts, that third force within us starts acting, our ego also comes down, our conditionings also come down. For example, if you think: "We are Muslims, we have a right to kill others", if you think: "We are Jews, we have a right to kill others." All these differentiations and this kind of discrimination that we have is so stupid, because you are human beings, they are human beings. You are killing human beings! Not that they have committed any sin or they have done anything wrong, except that, in their foolishness, they believe that they are this and they are that. You are not! You are just human beings. In every human being, as you know very well, there is Kundalini. There’s no discrimination, everyone, whether you are a Muslim, a Jew, Hindu, Christian, Sikh, Parsee, anyone, you may call by any name. Now just look at how we accept a certain denomination for ourselves! You are born, say, to a Christian family or you are born to a Hindu family: immediately you start thinking you are there to uphold all the flags of that religion in which you are born. You are born in that religion without your knowledge, without your permission, without any understanding. So how can you belong to that religion? You have got Kundalini, everybody else has got Kundalini. So you can only belong to the religion of humanity, where every human being has got Kundalini. So, you are nothing but human beings. All these false ideas, that: "We are Hindus, we are Muslims, we are Christians", is all man-created. I mean, man can create anything, and human beings have no brain to understand that is all man creating. For example, you see in America, they create associations and big organisations and all that, based on absolute falsehood, absolute wrong ideas, absolute destructiveness, but they form it, they form their groups, they have this, they have... and they are prospering. But it has a repercussion, they don’t know. If you start doing such false things against human beings who are created by God, and nobody can destroy them, then there are repercussions. Many, many countries who were, once upon a time, rulers, were known as great things, have come down. And all such countries who now think they are very rich and all that, will have to come down. All of them have to come down, is just an ultimate result of this stupidity to believe that you are higher than others, than you can kill others. So, a non-violent method started which is of another absurdity, I think, because then they start saving mosquitoes and also the bugs, while mosquitoes and bugs are, you must know, are the greatest blood-suckers. They live only on human blood. Such things, what’s the use of saving them? So, human beings take to something that is absurd, stupid, foolish. I don’t know what is the reason. The way they accept things is absolutely unbelievable. I think it is a kind of a slavish mentality which does not give them freedom to think what is right, what is wrong. For this, we have Christ. We have Christ, a person who was absolutely free, free from all kinds of prejudices, all kinds of temptations, all kinds of nonsense that human beings follow. But one may say that: "Mother, after all, He was divine!" He was divine and now you are made divine also. So, how can we now join together to make a full effort, a full effort, to tell people that: "What are you doing? Why are you doing it? What is the need to do such things?" On one side is, we can say, a mass destruction through stupidity, another side is your own self-destruction. Take to drinking, take to other self-destructive things which are immoral, that’s very easily available, and people like it very much. They don’t like when you talk that: "This is destructive." So, either we destroy others or destroy ourselves. Christ was destroyed by others and He resurrected by Himself. So we are also in the same position now. I know many a times Sahaja Yoga was challenged. Now it’s much better, not so bad... was challenged and there were so many problems. But it’s smoothing down, because that’s the Truth, that’s the Reality, that’s what is Divinity. So, you should not be afraid. All these funny ideas about Sahaja Yoga also will die out. It’s a resurrection, not only of you people, but also of your ideologies. Now the ideologies change, that our awareness should be enlightened. We should have light in our awareness. This has come only through Sahaja Yoga, that: "If you don’t have the light, how can you go further in the right path?" It’s not easy to describe Christ’s life, how He went through that. He died so young and brutally He was killed. But still all that, He resurrected Himself. He came out of all that, came out of that ordeal. So for us also, when we are in Sahaja Yoga problems, we should know we have a power to resurrect ourselves. No one can destroy us! No one can finish us off, because we have a power to resurrect ourselves. This special power that we have to resurrect, you should all the time understand and feel it and meditate on that. I hear from people from every country: "The government is doing like this, the government is doing like this!" or they are having some trouble, they call you a sect, they call you this and that... Alright, doesn’t matter! Your duty is to believe that you are following the foot steps of Christ. And no one can destroy it! This is the message of Christ’s life, that divine life cannot be destroyed. When this body could not be destroyed, then how can you destroy the divine light in Him? So many Sahaja Yogis are here, who have been since long in Sahaja Yoga, and they have had problems, and they went through lot of troubles, I agree! But all these things have subsided. And now you are in such a resurrected position that, after some time, -you’ll be amazed- Sahaja Yoga will take over, all over the world. All over the world, people will take to Sahaja Yoga and we’ll have such a lot of Sahaja Yogis all over the world that all this minority of some stupid people will disappear. For that, what have you to do? Sometimes, people ask Me: "What do we have to do?" You must have also read the Bible, that Christ prayed and He was praying. In the same way, we can say, we have to meditate. Through meditation, we’ll grow in our awareness, in our new personality, in our strengthened personality. Meditation is the only way we can grow, and then no one can destroy you, because you are all protected by the Divine Love. You don’t have to worry as to who will destroy you, what will happen. Of course, in the beginning there’s little agitation, people feel a little bad about it, it’s alright! But actually, NO ONE can destroy you. Have this faith in you! Christ had no organisation, He had no Adi Shakti to support Him, in no way. But only through His divine personality, He managed to get out of all the problems, of all the tortures, of all the atrocities on Him. So now, you have better advantage, because you are enlightened. Firstly, He was a divine person and He could go through that. You don’t have to! Nobody will torture you, nobody will put you in jail, nobody will crucify you. Nobody will, that’s not possible. But mentally, if you are upset, sometimes you get upset I know, in certain countries people get upset, because they think they are oppressed, they think they are in Sahaja Yoga. I assure you, no one can do that. You must know that you are all the time protected. Christ is there as your elder brother, I always said that. But also you have your Mother, and you have all the Ganas and all the Angels around you. When I see this, I just thought: "Look at this, in every country they have shown Angels and Ganas are there!" Such pure forms of protection you have. So there’s nothing to worry about your destruction or your impediments, or whatever you may call it, a kind of destructive forces acting on you. From the life of Christ, you have to know that no one can destroy a realised soul in these modern times. As it is, they never destroy her. We had so many Saints who were killed, who were tortured, but see, they still exist as poetry, as poems, also as blessings, everywhere they are not finished. They are not dead, though it seems that they are no more, but even to take their names and even to call them, they work out. They are there in their Spirit and they help. Assured by Christ’s life, by His resurrection, we are resurrected people. Of course, our body also has changed. After resurrection, you know that your Chakras work out all the curing and all the blessings. Our attitude, our mental attitude also changes, and also your ego subsides. Not only that, also our conditionings go out. Specially I was so happy that those people, say, who are born in a particular religion, immediately they see what’s wrong with that religion, as if they turn round and see the image of their society and know what’s wrong with them. And when they start meditating on those corrections, it works, societies are improving. You see, so-called religious ideas are falling into their own traps, and they will all fall because they're falsehood. That’s not real religion. The religion is within ourselves and this pure religion is the one which is a global religion. The solution comes like that: supposing you have wars... wars in the name of religion, in the name of God specially. And in the name of religions they have wars. So now, what happens? All these wars that take place cannot destroy Reality, cannot destroy the Truth. This is another message of Christ’s resurrection. You cannot! You may think that today you have destroyed these people, but they are there. All the Saints, all the great people who have been resurrected in life are all the time there. Their protections are there, their guidance is there, you can see them in a way that they are there. So one should have no fear. The fear of death has to go. So many of them have said the same that: "What is death after all?" Death dies itself, once you are resurrected. So one should not be afraid of death. Now how many of you have been afraid of death before your resurrection, but not now? You are not bothered as to when the death comes, what happens or which way you are going to be so-called destroyed. You know you cannot be destroyed. In your heart of hearts, you all know this very well, that you cannot be destroyed. The fear of our destruction goes away, no doubt. But there is one thing, is the compassion. When you see all these bad things are happening and people are being tortured, your mind is... you see... cannot take it for granted. It starts responding to that, and it feels the pain of others, tremendous! But as a result of that, your will power, your thinking on those lines, your tears even are powerful and they can bring solace to those people who are suffering unnecessarily. You have to experiment with it. Just having a feeling of compassion, things will improve. Now, as it is, we meditate. But we can meditate also with such compassion and such love that your tears can also have an effect on these people who are so cruel and stupid and killing each other. But it is important for you to know that now you are not an individual, but you have become a global personality, a global personality. You are not an individual, you are a global personality, and sitting down here, you are working out all the global problems. You are not a small person now, who’s only worried about your own children, about your family, about this and that, no! This mind of yours has expanded, expanded like this, that it works automatically for all the problems of the world. When for a woman I read newspapers, specially women seldom read newspapers, but I read, read and I read those where My attention is in it. I’ve seen it works! But all of you put together, if you understand that this is your responsibility to correct all the destructive forces, to put them right, we just have to collectively meditate on the points where you find there’s a big problem. Now the problem is mainly because of religions, mainly. Now, if they can all jump into the new religion, global religion, they all are one. They cannot then fight because there’s one religion. But they don’t want to have one religion, because they want to fight. They’re fighting cocks. But if they come to Sahaj, if they become enlightened, then they will only enjoy love of each other and not killing of each other, destruction of others. And this is what we have to learn from life of Christ, who was alone, who was single. He did not have such a collective behind Him. But how powerful He was that He fought the death and came out of it so clearly at the stage of Agnya! Without Him, we could not have worked out Sahaja Yoga. Kundalini would not have gone through, unless and until He had sacrificed His life. And He really sacrificed, He accepted the task of sacrificing His life, and then resurrected. He passed through that, I should say, very constricted channel of Agnya, to put you people right, by saying: "You forgive everyone." If forgiving was such a powerful thing that you can even fight your death, then why not forgive? Many people say: "Mother, we can’t forgive!" and I’ve told hundred times that: "What are you doing if not forgiving?" So, the message of Christ’s life is that He forgot, forgave all the people who troubled Him. Even He said that: "O God, please forgive them, because they don’t know what they are doing!" On the cross, He said those things, when He was tortured, insulted, He’s saying what? "You forgive them, have pity, have sympathy for them, because they don’t know what they are doing!" They are killing the Son of God, and what will happen to them? Where will they go? What will be their situation? This one is a big message for us, that even on the cross, He said: "Forgive, O God, O Father, forgive them!" In the same way, we have to also forgive people. It’s very important from the life of Christ that we have to forgive. His forgiveness was of the greatest importance. For the whole world to understand, you must forgive. If you learn how to forgive, you’ll be amazed, half of the wars of this world will be finished! Now, something happened thousands of years back. Still people are fighting, still they are fighting, thinking these things happened so many years back, so they are ended. If He can really forgive those people, what happened before we were even born, why should we form a group of such people, why? Because there is something called hatred in human beings, they have hatred, hatred for this, hatred for that, even in small things they’ll say: "I don’t like it, I like it!" It’s very common, nowadays specially. When we were young, we were not supposed to say such a thing: "I don’t like it, I like it!", we were not supposed to say. But now their freedom has given them to talk like this: "I don’t like it, I don’t like that, I don’t like that, I don’t like that person!" Who are you? What do you think of yourself to judge others? You don’t know how to appreciate, you don’t know how to enjoy and only what you go on is: "I don’t like it!" And supposing you like it, what will you do? Whether you like it or don’t like is just the same! But just to show off their ego, we say: "I don’t like this way, I don’t like!" Because there’s no love! If there is love, then you can enjoy everything. We’ll never say: "I don’t like it, I like it!" You will definitely enjoy if you really say that: "I enjoy, I enjoy everything!" You are closing down yourself by saying: "I don’t like it, I don’t like it, I don’t like!" as if you are a great connoisseur, or a person, a judge, to say this! It is very remarkable that in the West it’s even more prominent that they will say: "I don’t like it, I don’t like!" Of course, in the East, I would say in India, if somebody says like that, people will say he’s just trying to show off on the face. But showing off is not regarded as bad manners. It’s not regarded as bad manners in the West. To feel shy of anything is regarded as bad manners, but to boast of something, nobody feels that it is a bad thing. Did Christ boast of anything? Never! He never boasted of anything, but when He saw people were selling things in the holy places, what did He do? He started beating them with a hunter, because that was wrong, absolutely wrong, against the holiness of the place. But He did not say: "I don’t like it!" No! He just showed His complete disapproval of the whole system of selling things in a temple or in a holy place. People go there to worship. They need a mind which is devoid of money orientation. There should be no money orientation when you are meditating. This is the biggest problem of today. Everything is money orientation. You like a car which is very expensive, so you want to have. By hook and crook, you will get that car and sit in there. You might be a thief, but you buy an expensive car to show off, perhaps maybe because you are a thief, that’s why you want to hide your personality. So there is no truthful life, it’s all just showing off and thinking no end of yourself. But when the death will come at your doorstep, what will you do? At that time, you will be trembling with all your so-called achievements and your so-called showing off. You will just tremble before death. But a Sahaja Yogi cannot! He will like, if the death has to come, it has to come! He will not tremble that the death is something dangerous, but is a place where he can go and rest. He won’t mind, he won’t mind anything, because he is above that, he is above destruction. So, he won’t mind anything, whatever comes his way and he will surrender to it easily. We have Kabir. Kabir has written so many poems, mostly about death. He said: "When death came, I didn’t say a single word, I didn’t fight, but what I did, I took a sheet on top of me and went off to sleep!" How sweetly he described death sometimes, and Kabir then reminds Me of Christ. How sweetly Christ also went through all these things, and when He died, the whole elements shook. He was the master of elements. They shook, there was earthquake and all kinds of things that happened. They, they felt His death, not Him! They felt that such a great divinity which is the essence of existence has been killed like this. They also didn’t know that He is going to come back to His life. They also were not aware of it, but He did. He did come out of that deadened thing, for which everybody was so much shocked. His death itself gives us strength, that we have no death, we have resurrected and resurrection is with us. But we have to establish our Sahaja Yoga, our meditation. That’s very important. The other day, I met a lady. She told of a miracle in her life, how she was saved. She was about to die, she came across an accident, all kind... But how she was saved, while her husband, he succumbs to all kinds of things. So I said: "What do you mean, how it happened?" She said: "Mother, it’s nothing but Shraddha!" Shraddha is meditation, surrendering. "Surrendering, because I’m surrendered!" But I said: "How?" "That, I don’t know, I’m just surrendered. I feel so comfortable, so lively and so much out of fear when I know I’m surrendered, completely surrendered to my Spirit!" And this what it is what we have to learn when we meditate, that we have to surrender. Muhammad has called "Islam". Islam means surrender, though they don’t surrender -otherwise you see...- but what is that you must surrender to your global nature, to your higher nature. You must not die out, you mustn’t fizzle out into these worldly turmoil and worldly things. It’s a very strength-giving example of Christ. And He’s with us, He will always guide us, He’ll look after us, not only but He’ll give us strength. He will destroy all those who will be against eternal life. He’ll destroy nonsensical things. And you are seeing now how in Kali Yuga all these institutions who talk of religion and fights are getting destroyed. Automatically, we have done nothing. On their own only, while they’re doing, they are finishing, because there’s no Reality, there’s no Spirit in it, and without the Spirit, what is left is nothing but a dead body. The whole understanding should be for Sahaja Yogis, that we have to be Spirit-oriented, not money-oriented, body-oriented, emotion-oriented, but Spirit-oriented, which is a joy-giving thing. And you’ll be surprised with that orientation, you will be the most happy, most loving, most beautiful person. Immediately, people will know around that there’s something about this man, some spark about this lady, some sort of a spark that she is or he is so much different from us. It can be recognised in no time. Now, at the time of Christ, very few people could recognise, because they were not enlightened, because they were very much below the level of human beings, I should say. But you are not! You are quite aware, you are born in modern times, and at this time, when we think of Christ, we should know what a life it was, what a grand personality it was, that He subjected to this kind of a torture. He could have destroyed all of them in no time. He was so powerful, such a powerful personality, but He did not! He forgave them. He gave you the message of forgiveness, the greatest force that can work out. Now also, you should surrender yourself to this idea of forgiveness and really try to forgive. You’ll be amazed, you will feel very much peaceful, very happy, and the person who has tortured you will come round. What we have to do is now to transform people. That’s our job. We have to transform them. We are transformed. We are at a point, we can call it, we are resurrected. We have to resurrect the whole world, that’s our job, so that all these fights, all these quarrels, all these falsehoods will just be finished. For us, Christ is our leader, who has done this for us. He came as an ordinary human being, lived like an ordinary human being, with all these powers within Him. He never used them to destroy. In the same way, we can also with love and affection, we can also really come out of our deaths, come out of our misgivings, come out of our destructive nature. This destructive nature is the most dangerous thing for Yogis. That’s the only hope we have, that Sahaja Yogis are resurrected. Only thing I know is that, if we have so many Sahaja Yogis, this world will change. This world has to change. But your progress should go on, you should progress more and more, not you should not regress back. For small things here and there, don’t worry! You have a very great responsibility, and that responsibility is to transform the human beings. That’s your duty. How many have you transformed? How many have you changed? It’s all right for men or women. You have to change people, this is your job and this is the power you have got from Christ, that you have to change them, transform them into the new world of happiness and joy which we call it as the Sahaj Nirmal Dharma. If it works out, if it really works out, think of the world, how beautiful it will become for us! It’s the duty of every Sahaja Yogi to go into this kind of a new venture and try to find out how many people he can convert and how many people he can bring round. I hope next time we’ll have doubled the number of people that are here from all these eight countries who are hosting now. All My love to you all. Great days are waiting us. We have to now understand only our responsibility. Main thing is how many people we have converted, how many people we have resurrected. That is the record, not what, how many Pujas you have attended and all that. It’s not so important. Pujas are just to give you strength and to give you power, but they are not your work. That’s not your work. For your work, you can take from Pujas all the strength that you need. But if you don’t use this power, then what’s the use? So now, I leave it to you to remember that you are resurrected and you have to resurrect others. It’s a very, very important job at this time of complete turmoil and destruction. May God bless you!

4/26/1999

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Kundalini – The power of the saint is in every human being

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Public Program. Levent Kırca and Oya Başar Theather, Maçka, Istanbul (Turkey), 26 April 1999. I bow to all the seekers of truth.We are at the time bond, is very important. At this time there is so much of turmoils, so much of problems, so many wars, all kinds of interrogation has taken place in our value system. And we are quite shocked about that, very much shocked. What is the problem? Why this is happening? We should try to find out. And if there is a solution we should try to achieve it. The problems are there because human beings do not know themselves. Either they think too much of themselves, they have too much of Ego or they are very much conditioned. There is no condition that we can say is not troublesome, because they blindly accept all the nonsense. Now we see the problem, say we are born in particular religion and we just start following everything that is told to us. I ask people if they have read Quran Sharif. Very few have really read it and is completely, sometimes, I find is represented. That brings bad name to Islam, also to Muhammad Sahab. According to us prophet Mohamed was a very, very great soul. We call him as Adi Guru, means one of the primordial masters who got birth on this Earth. Now such a great soul like him would not say he is divine. I can not believe that, but I think he did not say he is divine. Maybe because if somebody says he is Divine, then people get just after the life of the divine personality. And it is how much he was tortured, how much he was troubled, endless. No one might say why such a Divine person suffered, he did not suffered but he had sufferings even by people who were ignorant, because they were absolutely blind. They did not know what sort of great sort of person he was. All such great saints had suffer. All over the world the saints had suffered because the people do not know what saintliness is. First of all they should know themselves. Once they know themselves, they will know what Muhammad Sahab was. They will also know about Quran-ı Sharif (Sharif -Holy, honorable). It is absolutely clear cut in the Qur’an, but people want to listen the pret, you can not help it. Christ also said that know thy self. All those, who were so great, had told to know ourselves. Those who had not known themselves, have no right to talk about them or to condemn then or to say horrible things. After you have come to know yourself only, you will know how great they were and how Quran Sharif is such an important book. Even those who read such a great book are doing all kinds of nonsensical things . They have no control over their greed. They have no control over their lust, they can be very cruel also. How can that be? If you read such a great book like Quran Sharif, then how can you be like that? Because of all this reading does not go in the heart. He has talked about Rahmet (mercy, clemency), he called it Rahim (compassionate, forgiving) . Where is that Rahmet? If do you see it anywhere? They are all killing each other in the name of God. So this is the state of the truth, of reality, of divinity. Now what is needed is first to know thy self. For that, it is placed within you, in the triangle bone, this special power called as Kundalini, whether you are a Hindu, Muslim, Christian, anything. As they have a heart, they also have this power. Then how can we say we are different? We are all human begins, no doubt. But the power of the saint is in every human being. So we have to accept that we all can ascent whether we follow this religion, or that religion, or this country, or that country, makes no difference. It's written in Quran Sharif also, it is not only my words, it is written everywhere that we all human beings are the same. If so, if that is the situation, then why should we all not know ourselves. It is very easy to know yourself in these modern times, because it has been esteem that in these modern times we should know ourselves. You have to have the Self knowledge. You have knowledge for everything outside but what about your Self? When you will know your Self you will be amazed that you all are part and parcel of one great personality, Upper. When we say “Allah hu Akbar (Lord, the Biggest)” what do we say is that we are one, in one personality that is Upper. Just by think “Allah hu Akbar”, you do not realized, you do not become part and parcel of great Upper. You go out shouting for ages, for centuries, you will not become part and parcel of Upper. For that you have to know your Self and that you have to get connect with this all pervading Power of Ruh. You have some Sufis, but nobody believed them because they were realized souls. Especially in your country, you had such a great people who came to tell you that you should know yourself ,but we got lost, in these modern times we got lost, completely. Where are we? What are we fighting for? How can blind fight, we do not know anything, we do not know our meaning. How is possible? It is very much possible for you all to get your self realization, self knowledge, to know yourself.. Even if you are fanatics, listen to me. Because this will save you, save your children, save everyone, save everyone, save Turkey and save the whole world. You have to raise about this limited ideas,that you get from others. You have to have a feeling, the experience of this Ruh. Without that , you can not know anything about prophet Muhammed or Islam. Islam is to surrender, it doesn't mean aggression.Surrender to who? To God, to his power, which is the power of love. God loved us, so he created us. If we haven’t got that power of love, if we haven't just his power of love , no use during any namaz or anything no use. The namaz you do is nothing, but for your Kundalini awakening. You will realize that after your Self Knowledge, even if you do namaz it has great meaning. Once you start feeling this cool breeze after, Holy Ghost they have called it, or you can say this Ruh, then when you do namaz it goes on increasing, you go on becoming higher and higher. Otherwise, any number of namaz can you do, rouse you do, you can not do it. And a seed has to be sprout, otherwise it cannot grow. In the same way your Kundalini has to be awaken like a primula (brightly coloured flowers in the spring) of a seed. Without this sprouting, how can you grow, artificially? So please understand that first let this sprouting things and then you do namaz, and you will be amazed that the chaitanya, what they call it the vibrations that are flowing increase tremendously. Also then you read Qur’an and these vibrations will increase tremendously! You will grow very fast. All the things that you do in the name of God, you will have the experience that are all true, there is truth in it. But you have to allow the seed to be sprout. Without that you are just like any other material.. Something artificial living in the false world, doing all kinds of wrong things without bothering about God Almighty. Not only that you will know your Self, but you will know all the powers that get out of that knowledge. The first power you get is of tremendously creativity. As it is Turkish are known for their creativity, they will create such a beautiful art that it will be appealing to the whole world on Global level. Now you become extremely moral by nature. You do not have to be very rigid about this, you just become you become very moral. Whatever is said “don’t do this, don’t do that!”, nothing is to be told; because your Spirit is now enlightened and with the light of that spirit you know what is good for you, what is distracting for you. Now Muhammed said not to drink alcohol, we do not say do not drink , because if I say that half of the people will just go away. But after you get this knowledge which is constructive for yourself ,you yourself do not drink, you do not take any alcohol, you do not take any drug, you do not smoke, you do not take anything that can destroy your body. You do not have to tell your children “do this, do that” , it works out automatically. It is very surprising how powerful you become, that you do not have to do anything to stop yourself of doing something wrong. Then you become very sensitive as to what is right and what is wrong and you just do not accept what is wrong. This discrimination is just within you, which is enlightened. Then for everything: for food, for taking out money, this -that, all this greed business just get controlled. Above all you become a very very loving person.You have faith in your own love and you see that your love succeeds and you are amazed how it works. Now the time has come what you call as a last judgment. Now if you get to the right religion, if you get to the right understanding of yourself, so you should know you have decided for the highest ascent. This you will experience yourself that you have become extremely loving, kind, forgiving person. But by doing that you do not become weak, you become very strong. You didn't see despite all of position how your Sufis have stayed that's on their path of truth.. But now you are not alone, you are not aloe You have thousands of them all over the world. They are your brothers and sisters all over. You will be amazed how they look after you. How they are bothered about you, when you become one with the all pervading akbar, then who is the other? For example, anything happens to this finger the whole body reacts. In the same way all the Sahaja yogis, all the people all over the world, who know themselves, will react together and their good wishes will act through the Divine Power. Gradually all this destructive nature and also the falsehood of people drops out. Also you develop another dimension in your awareness which is called as collective consciousness. So what you do, you can feel another person on your fingertips. You can feel yourself also on your fingertips. That is what Mohamed Sahab has said, that at the time of resurrection Kıyama your hands will speak and will give şahadet (witness) against you. They will tell you what is wrong with you, your fingers will tell you what is wrong with you, with your body, with you mind, everything you can know on your fingertips. Now if you know how to correct those defects in you, you can correct anybody’s problems, because you can also feel what is wrong with them on your fingertips. Sitting down here you can feel for anybody in Ankara or maybe London or anywhere and if you know how to correct sitting down here, you can correct that person. So, in short, is the scientific language we will say that you enter into the subtler side, the subtle of subtlest of Ether. As your chakras get enlightened, you enter into the subtler side of all the five elements. Ultimately the sixth center, as they call it Agnya, is once it is enlightened, then you become extremely forgiving. You do not react, you watch everything like a witness. Certainly now I see this carpet is very well made, so normally I should react. How much it was have cost from where did you that buy who has made it, all these questions will come. But after the Self Realization you just watch and enjoy the creativity of the artist who has made this. Your quarreling nature also subsides, because you do not react. To the last of is this limbic area where Kundalini arise by which you get your peace and joy. Now Joy is a singular thing, it is not happiness and unhappiness. It is just joy that means you For example if you are standing in the water and the waves are there, you are afraid of it..But in case, in case you get into a water, then you can watch the waves and enjoy them. But supposing you know swimming ,you can jump and save many others. So now Sahaja yoga is working in eighty countries in the whole world. And in a very big way some people who got their self realisation went around and give realization at to others. For that you do not have to pay, It's a natural process, living process. How much would you pay for that? So it was without any payment, that's how the falsehood can be exposed because you pay for all kinds of falsehood. .Now you can say who has pay for this all . I must say the Sahaja yogis have paid.Formally I used to pay,because I have money from my family and also from my husband.Now they want to pay. They think for our self realization , you are taking this hall ,Mother why you should pay? They can pay for the hall but not for self realisation.When the last center is broken,the seventh One by which we get connected with this all pervading power. Which we have not felt so far the presence of this all pervading power. But after self realization you feel it,this cool breeze , the Ruh (spirit). In the beginning if very hot,, for that you have to forgive everyone, not to have anger for anyone and it works very easily. I know there are people here who want to ask me questions also. Just now make your questioning mind quite.First get your self realisation and then you can ask. You have to feel this cool breeze on your fingertips.So have faith in yourself. And you all can feel this ruh (spirit). I assure you ,you can. [UNCLEAR] hardly five to ten minutes, I will work it out Iwill request who want to go away ,can go away, don't disturb others. I can not force it only. You have to ask for it. If you want to have it, you can get it. You must have the desire to have it , because is pure desire that works.There is no competition,no trouble ,nothing at all.Only you have to take out your shoes. Because this ,Mother Earth is very pure and she is very helpful. Can you wait, Can you wait for a while? You can do it little later. Don't disturb this attention. I am not going to tell you to do anything whatsoever I will not even say do not think but automatically you go beyond your mind and see then said this torsion area, is called it torsion area. Now we have to do like this,like we do for namaz that's all..Be comfortable.Take off your shoes and put both of feet away to each other. Now put your right hand on your heart and ask for forgiveness from God almighty if we have done anything wrong, just to ask forgive from heart. But do not feel guilty. Mistake can be done so now you can ask for forgivness,so do not feel guilty at all. If you feel guilty then this center on the left hand gets bothered. And who it is just like and we are not then coming. Now please put your right hand towards me and put down your head and see for yourself, is there any cool or hot breeze coming out your head. Now If it is hot ,you have to forgive,forgive everyone. Now please down put your left hand towards me, put down your head and see for yourself if there is a cool or hot breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area. Now please put both your hands towards me.. Please ,see now if there is a your feeling the cool breeze on your fingertips or on your palm or out of your fontanel area. Just see it.This is the ruh. You can ask a question in your heart ,is this the ruh the Divine power? By asking this ,you will get more coming cool breeze, so you can say also yes this is the ruh. We have never tried this before ,this is the ruh. so you can feel it warm. Although who have felt this cool breeze on their fingertips,or on their palm or out fontanel bone area, please raise their hands. That is what Turkish people are wonderful. May God Bless you. You are specially best people I must say , so easy to give realisation too.. There is something special. With the Europeans have to break my hands , not with you people. You are very kind and sensible,so may God bless you all. They want to sing a song for you and you just clap,all right? So and you will be amazed ,will increase. Those who have not felt anything can come here and we work it out on them. Performance of Mahamaya Mahakali.

Public Program. Levent Kırca and Oya Başar Theather, Maçka, Istanbul (Turkey), 26 April 1999. I bow to all the seekers of truth.We are at the time bond, is very important. At this time there is so much of turmoils, so much of problems, so many wars, all kinds of interrogation has taken place in our value system. And we are quite shocked about that, very much shocked. What is the problem? Why this is happening? We should try to find out. And if there is a solution we should try to achieve it. The problems are there because human beings do not know themselves. Either they think too much of themselves, they have too much of Ego or they are very much conditioned. There is no condition that we can say is not troublesome, because they blindly accept all the nonsense. Now we see the problem, say we are born in particular religion and we just start following everything that is told to us. I ask people if they have read Quran Sharif. Very few have really read it and is completely, sometimes, I find is represented. That brings bad name to Islam, also to Muhammad Sahab. According to us prophet Mohamed was a very, very great soul. We call him as Adi Guru, means one of the primordial masters who got birth on this Earth. Now such a great soul like him would not say he is divine. I can not believe that, but I think he did not say he is divine. Maybe because if somebody says he is Divine, then people get just after the life of the divine personality. And it is how much he was tortured, how much he was troubled, endless. No one might say why such a Divine person suffered, he did not suffered but he had sufferings even by people who were ignorant, because they were absolutely blind. They did not know what sort of great sort of person he was. All such great saints had suffer. All over the world the saints had suffered because the people do not know what saintliness is. First of all they should know themselves. Once they know themselves, they will know what Muhammad Sahab was. They will also know about Quran-ı Sharif (Sharif -Holy, honorable). It is absolutely clear cut in the Qur’an, but people want to listen the pret, you can not help it. Christ also said that know thy self. All those, who were so great, had told to know ourselves. Those who had not known themselves, have no right to talk about them or to condemn then or to say horrible things. After you have come to know yourself only, you will know how great they were and how Quran Sharif is such an important book. Even those who read such a great book are doing all kinds of nonsensical things . They have no control over their greed. They have no control over their lust, they can be very cruel also. How can that be? If you read such a great book like Quran Sharif, then how can you be like that? Because of all this reading does not go in the heart. He has talked about Rahmet (mercy, clemency), he called it Rahim (compassionate, forgiving) . Where is that Rahmet? If do you see it anywhere? They are all killing each other in the name of God. So this is the state of the truth, of reality, of divinity. Now what is needed is first to know thy self. For that, it is placed within you, in the triangle bone, this special power called as Kundalini, whether you are a Hindu, Muslim, Christian, anything. As they have a heart, they also have this power. Then how can we say we are different? We are all human begins, no doubt. But the power of the saint is in every human being. So we have to accept that we all can ascent whether we follow this religion, or that religion, or this country, or that country, makes no difference. It's written in Quran Sharif also, it is not only my words, it is written everywhere that we all human beings are the same. If so, if that is the situation, then why should we all not know ourselves. It is very easy to know yourself in these modern times, because it has been esteem that in these modern times we should know ourselves. You have to have the Self knowledge. You have knowledge for everything outside but what about your Self? When you will know your Self you will be amazed that you all are part and parcel of one great personality, Upper. When we say “Allah hu Akbar (Lord, the Biggest)” what do we say is that we are one, in one personality that is Upper. Just by think “Allah hu Akbar”, you do not realized, you do not become part and parcel of great Upper. You go out shouting for ages, for centuries, you will not become part and parcel of Upper. For that you have to know your Self and that you have to get connect with this all pervading Power of Ruh. You have some Sufis, but nobody believed them because they were realized souls. Especially in your country, you had such a great people who came to tell you that you should know yourself ,but we got lost, in these modern times we got lost, completely. Where are we? What are we fighting for? How can blind fight, we do not know anything, we do not know our meaning. How is possible? It is very much possible for you all to get your self realization, self knowledge, to know yourself.. Even if you are fanatics, listen to me. Because this will save you, save your children, save everyone, save everyone, save Turkey and save the whole world. You have to raise about this limited ideas,that you get from others. You have to have a feeling, the experience of this Ruh. Without that , you can not know anything about prophet Muhammed or Islam. Islam is to surrender, it doesn't mean aggression.Surrender to who? To God, to his power, which is the power of love. God loved us, so he created us. If we haven’t got that power of love, if we haven't just his power of love , no use during any namaz or anything no use. The namaz you do is nothing, but for your Kundalini awakening. You will realize that after your Self Knowledge, even if you do namaz it has great meaning. Once you start feeling this cool breeze after, Holy Ghost they have called it, or you can say this Ruh, then when you do namaz it goes on increasing, you go on becoming higher and higher. Otherwise, any number of namaz can you do, rouse you do, you can not do it. And a seed has to be sprout, otherwise it cannot grow. In the same way your Kundalini has to be awaken like a primula (brightly coloured flowers in the spring) of a seed. Without this sprouting, how can you grow, artificially? So please understand that first let this sprouting things and then you do namaz, and you will be amazed that the chaitanya, what they call it the vibrations that are flowing increase tremendously. Also then you read Qur’an and these vibrations will increase tremendously! You will grow very fast. All the things that you do in the name of God, you will have the experience that are all true, there is truth in it. But you have to allow the seed to be sprout. Without that you are just like any other material.. Something artificial living in the false world, doing all kinds of wrong things without bothering about God Almighty. Not only that you will know your Self, but you will know all the powers that get out of that knowledge. The first power you get is of tremendously creativity. As it is Turkish are known for their creativity, they will create such a beautiful art that it will be appealing to the whole world on Global level. Now you become extremely moral by nature. You do not have to be very rigid about this, you just become you become very moral. Whatever is said “don’t do this, don’t do that!”, nothing is to be told; because your Spirit is now enlightened and with the light of that spirit you know what is good for you, what is distracting for you. Now Muhammed said not to drink alcohol, we do not say do not drink , because if I say that half of the people will just go away. But after you get this knowledge which is constructive for yourself ,you yourself do not drink, you do not take any alcohol, you do not take any drug, you do not smoke, you do not take anything that can destroy your body. You do not have to tell your children “do this, do that” , it works out automatically. It is very surprising how powerful you become, that you do not have to do anything to stop yourself of doing something wrong. Then you become very sensitive as to what is right and what is wrong and you just do not accept what is wrong. This discrimination is just within you, which is enlightened. Then for everything: for food, for taking out money, this -that, all this greed business just get controlled. Above all you become a very very loving person.You have faith in your own love and you see that your love succeeds and you are amazed how it works. Now the time has come what you call as a last judgment. Now if you get to the right religion, if you get to the right understanding of yourself, so you should know you have decided for the highest ascent. This you will experience yourself that you have become extremely loving, kind, forgiving person. But by doing that you do not become weak, you become very strong. You didn't see despite all of position how your Sufis have stayed that's on their path of truth.. But now you are not alone, you are not aloe You have thousands of them all over the world. They are your brothers and sisters all over. You will be amazed how they look after you. How they are bothered about you, when you become one with the all pervading akbar, then who is the other? For example, anything happens to this finger the whole body reacts. In the same way all the Sahaja yogis, all the people all over the world, who know themselves, will react together and their good wishes will act through the Divine Power. Gradually all this destructive nature and also the falsehood of people drops out. Also you develop another dimension in your awareness which is called as collective consciousness. So what you do, you can feel another person on your fingertips. You can feel yourself also on your fingertips. That is what Mohamed Sahab has said, that at the time of resurrection Kıyama your hands will speak and will give şahadet (witness) against you. They will tell you what is wrong with you, your fingers will tell you what is wrong with you, with your body, with you mind, everything you can know on your fingertips. Now if you know how to correct those defects in you, you can correct anybody’s problems, because you can also feel what is wrong with them on your fingertips. Sitting down here you can feel for anybody in Ankara or maybe London or anywhere and if you know how to correct sitting down here, you can correct that person. So, in short, is the scientific language we will say that you enter into the subtler side, the subtle of subtlest of Ether. As your chakras get enlightened, you enter into the subtler side of all the five elements. Ultimately the sixth center, as they call it Agnya, is once it is enlightened, then you become extremely forgiving. You do not react, you watch everything like a witness. Certainly now I see this carpet is very well made, so normally I should react. How much it was have cost from where did you that buy who has made it, all these questions will come. But after the Self Realization you just watch and enjoy the creativity of the artist who has made this. Your quarreling nature also subsides, because you do not react. To the last of is this limbic area where Kundalini arise by which you get your peace and joy. Now Joy is a singular thing, it is not happiness and unhappiness. It is just joy that means you For example if you are standing in the water and the waves are there, you are afraid of it..But in case, in case you get into a water, then you can watch the waves and enjoy them. But supposing you know swimming ,you can jump and save many others. So now Sahaja yoga is working in eighty countries in the whole world. And in a very big way some people who got their self realisation went around and give realization at to others. For that you do not have to pay, It's a natural process, living process. How much would you pay for that? So it was without any payment, that's how the falsehood can be exposed because you pay for all kinds of falsehood. .Now you can say who has pay for this all . I must say the Sahaja yogis have paid.Formally I used to pay,because I have money from my family and also from my husband.Now they want to pay. They think for our self realization , you are taking this hall ,Mother why you should pay? They can pay for the hall but not for self realisation.When the last center is broken,the seventh One by which we get connected with this all pervading power. Which we have not felt so far the presence of this all pervading power. But after self realization you feel it,this cool breeze , the Ruh (spirit). In the beginning if very hot,, for that you have to forgive everyone, not to have anger for anyone and it works very easily. I know there are people here who want to ask me questions also. Just now make your questioning mind quite.First get your self realisation and then you can ask. You have to feel this cool breeze on your fingertips.So have faith in yourself. And you all can feel this ruh (spirit). I assure you ,you can. [UNCLEAR] hardly five to ten minutes, I will work it out Iwill request who want to go away ,can go away, don't disturb others. I can not force it only. You have to ask for it. If you want to have it, you can get it. You must have the desire to have it , because is pure desire that works.There is no competition,no trouble ,nothing at all.Only you have to take out your shoes. Because this ,Mother Earth is very pure and she is very helpful. Can you wait, Can you wait for a while? You can do it little later. Don't disturb this attention. I am not going to tell you to do anything whatsoever I will not even say do not think but automatically you go beyond your mind and see then said this torsion area, is called it torsion area. Now we have to do like this,like we do for namaz that's all..Be comfortable.Take off your shoes and put both of feet away to each other. Now put your right hand on your heart and ask for forgiveness from God almighty if we have done anything wrong, just to ask forgive from heart. But do not feel guilty. Mistake can be done so now you can ask for forgivness,so do not feel guilty at all. If you feel guilty then this center on the left hand gets bothered. And who it is just like and we are not then coming. Now please put your right hand towards me and put down your head and see for yourself, is there any cool or hot breeze coming out your head. Now If it is hot ,you have to forgive,forgive everyone. Now please down put your left hand towards me, put down your head and see for yourself if there is a cool or hot breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area. Now please put both your hands towards me.. Please ,see now if there is a your feeling the cool breeze on your fingertips or on your palm or out of your fontanel area. Just see it.This is the ruh. You can ask a question in your heart ,is this the ruh the Divine power? By asking this ,you will get more coming cool breeze, so you can say also yes this is the ruh. We have never tried this before ,this is the ruh. so you can feel it warm. Although who have felt this cool breeze on their fingertips,or on their palm or out fontanel bone area, please raise their hands. That is what Turkish people are wonderful. May God Bless you. You are specially best people I must say , so easy to give realisation too.. There is something special. With the Europeans have to break my hands , not with you people. You are very kind and sensible,so may God bless you all. They want to sing a song for you and you just clap,all right? So and you will be amazed ,will increase. Those who have not felt anything can come here and we work it out on them. Performance of Mahamaya Mahakali.

5/7/1999

http://amruta.org/?p=33487

Talk and Evening Program before Sahasrara Puja

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Evening Program and Talk, Cabella, Italy 07-05-1999 It was really a great, enjoyable night. We never felt any time passing. Your enthusiasm to celebrate Sahasrara Puja is very remarkable. I cannot imagine how joyous it is to be in collective like this, all of us, and enjoying the bliss of joy, peace and love. I was surprised at certain great talents that came up and who played so beautifully. Individually they were very, very good, something very surprising, and not only that, but it shows there is a divine effect on these artists, no doubt. I’ve been to Slovakia only once, once only I went there, and today to see so many Sahaja Yogis from Slovakia giving such a beautiful performance, of, from Valmiki up to this Kali Yuga and then to Satya Yuga is very remarkable. I don’t know who taught them all these things, at least I did not tell them all these things as far as I remember. But the way, you see, their heart is open now to Sahaja Yoga and to the divine blessings, all these ideas come, trickle down, I mean, unbelievable it is! If you show this to Indians they’ll be surprised how you could get to the roots of everything and how beautifully you have described it, in a very dramatic manner. I again feel this is [a] very divine ‘manufacturing’, or perhaps, ‘manifestation’ through you people. It’s impossible, you can’t imagine [that] you people didn’t know this language, you didn’t know anything about India and suddenly you come up with such beautiful rendering, such beautiful expressions, that no one can really believe! Luckily, the director-general of our Indian television and broadcasting - he is a Sahaja Yogi, and he has told me that, “Mother, your programs which are abroad, you bring them along and we can show them as episodes”, so this will all be broadcasted by him and they will be all amazed (these Indians) that how you people have achieved this mastery. I mean, even the Piano players and also the Cello players, it’s unbelievable. Such mastery they showed, and also as they were afraid that it might become a little boring: it’s not at all, a most enjoyable evening I’ve had, I must congratulate the organizers for that [APPLAUSE]. I know you have worked very hard because the condition of this place was not so good, and I don’t know how far you have gone to decorate it and work it out and, I mean, it’s really remarkable! It’s the collective joy I think, that brings forth all these kinds of fruits of your joy. Otherwise I can’t understand, I can’t image how all these things were done in such a short time, and absolutely in perfect condition, everything so well done, unbelievable it is. To me it’s such a great joy, such a great blessing I feel, because whatever so-called work I have done, I don’t know what people say, “You work so hard”, and all that, but how it has been brought to this state is difficult to understand. I didn’t know that Sahaj will work so fast with you all, I never had this idea, and was just thinking [of] the time when I think I broke the Sahasrara, that time I had no idea of the future of this kind, which is in my own lifetime I am seeing, and I am very thankful to you for that. Today, really, I think everybody’s Sahasrara is very open, and they are all enjoying, all of them are really enjoying the whole ambience I would say, plus the music and all the humour, all the acting and also the people who were using percussion instruments like Tabla and others. It was all something really very, very surprising. Anybody who will see this will be amazed what Sahaja Yoga can do to you people who had never known what is Indian music, and who had never known about our mythology. How you have depicted, I’m trying to find out who has told you all these stories so correct, absolutely correct. May god bless you, all of you, and I want you to just enjoy life, enjoy everything, every moment of Sahasrara puja. Today I am so full of gratitude for you that you all have done so much work. You think I worked hard but I don’t think I worked that hard as you people have worked, and it has all come to this beautiful expression of your love for me. Thank you very much, thank you.

Evening Program and Talk, Cabella, Italy 07-05-1999 It was really a great, enjoyable night. We never felt any time passing. Your enthusiasm to celebrate Sahasrara Puja is very remarkable. I cannot imagine how joyous it is to be in collective like this, all of us, and enjoying the bliss of joy, peace and love. I was surprised at certain great talents that came up and who played so beautifully. Individually they were very, very good, something very surprising, and not only that, but it shows there is a divine effect on these artists, no doubt. I’ve been to Slovakia only once, once only I went there, and today to see so many Sahaja Yogis from Slovakia giving such a beautiful performance, of, from Valmiki up to this Kali Yuga and then to Satya Yuga is very remarkable. I don’t know who taught them all these things, at least I did not tell them all these things as far as I remember. But the way, you see, their heart is open now to Sahaja Yoga and to the divine blessings, all these ideas come, trickle down, I mean, unbelievable it is! If you show this to Indians they’ll be surprised how you could get to the roots of everything and how beautifully you have described it, in a very dramatic manner. I again feel this is [a] very divine ‘manufacturing’, or perhaps, ‘manifestation’ through you people. It’s impossible, you can’t imagine [that] you people didn’t know this language, you didn’t know anything about India and suddenly you come up with such beautiful rendering, such beautiful expressions, that no one can really believe! Luckily, the director-general of our Indian television and broadcasting - he is a Sahaja Yogi, and he has told me that, “Mother, your programs which are abroad, you bring them along and we can show them as episodes”, so this will all be broadcasted by him and they will be all amazed (these Indians) that how you people have achieved this mastery. I mean, even the Piano players and also the Cello players, it’s unbelievable. Such mastery they showed, and also as they were afraid that it might become a little boring: it’s not at all, a most enjoyable evening I’ve had, I must congratulate the organizers for that [APPLAUSE]. I know you have worked very hard because the condition of this place was not so good, and I don’t know how far you have gone to decorate it and work it out and, I mean, it’s really remarkable! It’s the collective joy I think, that brings forth all these kinds of fruits of your joy. Otherwise I can’t understand, I can’t image how all these things were done in such a short time, and absolutely in perfect condition, everything so well done, unbelievable it is. To me it’s such a great joy, such a great blessing I feel, because whatever so-called work I have done, I don’t know what people say, “You work so hard”, and all that, but how it has been brought to this state is difficult to understand. I didn’t know that Sahaj will work so fast with you all, I never had this idea, and was just thinking [of] the time when I think I broke the Sahasrara, that time I had no idea of the future of this kind, which is in my own lifetime I am seeing, and I am very thankful to you for that. Today, really, I think everybody’s Sahasrara is very open, and they are all enjoying, all of them are really enjoying the whole ambience I would say, plus the music and all the humour, all the acting and also the people who were using percussion instruments like Tabla and others. It was all something really very, very surprising. Anybody who will see this will be amazed what Sahaja Yoga can do to you people who had never known what is Indian music, and who had never known about our mythology. How you have depicted, I’m trying to find out who has told you all these stories so correct, absolutely correct. May god bless you, all of you, and I want you to just enjoy life, enjoy everything, every moment of Sahasrara puja. Today I am so full of gratitude for you that you all have done so much work. You think I worked hard but I don’t think I worked that hard as you people have worked, and it has all come to this beautiful expression of your love for me. Thank you very much, thank you.

5/8/1999

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Music will bring glory to Sahaja Yoga, Evening Program before Sahasrara Puja

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Music will bring glory to Sahaja Yoga, Eve of Sahasrara puja, 08/05/1999,Evening Program [Talk after the music program and of the Magic Flute] Sometimes, the words fail to express the feelings of great gratitude for all of you – for putting up this collective effort and such a beautiful concentrated work as a real piece of art. I had seen “Magic Flute” long time back, when I was in Berlin, and that time – of course I didn’t understand German language, but I absolutely got lost by the rhythm, the music, the tuning and everything. So, actually the way you have brought in that very, very beautiful piece of art to life – I feel so much grateful to you that you are all Sahaja Yogis, and to Sahaja Yogis to perform this kind of magnificent, tremendous art piece, I don’t know whom to thank, really. Because now I can see our future, we’ll be going all over the world, taking this music. And may not be this one, may be another one, but you are all such a great group that you can really surpass everybody else who are having all these operas everywhere. Actually, I would say in London it’s very easy to get that hall which is mostly used for operas, the Royal Albert Hall. So we can reserve for you that, and we’ll have the whole thing done. I mean, I could never imagine that you were such masters. I shouldn’t say professionals, but really masters. And the way you all concentrated. This is the main point of collective playing is that there should be complete concentration. I just wanted to test you, so I said, “Sing also Binati Suniye”. But despite that, you came back to your normal and you were doing everything so well, even after that; I don’t know how to congratulate you and all of you who have taken to it, worked together, in such unison and with such clarity. I must say, I would say it was even better than the one I had seen, much better. You see, because I couldn’t even understand the language, apart from that, it was little they, I felt, they were little confused comparatively, while you people were straight, absolutely could see what you were doing, and what you were performing, and what you were giving. Now I see your future, the future of Sahaja Yoga. Through you people, the glory of Sahaja Yoga will spread. But when we have the program, we’ll have all formal dresses and all formalities, and I’m sure – I bless you from My heart – that we’ll have the complete of this particular play by Mozart. Complete. And we’ll do it so well, I know, and people will know that what Sahaja Yoga can do to your collectivity by which you can achieve it – because this collectivity you can’t have in any other form of performance. This has to be all of you, the players, singers, then the dialogues and everything has to be in unison.In Maharashtra, in Marathi, we have dramas of this kind, which can be called as operas, but apart from that, there is lot of – what you can say – dialogues which are not in the tune or in the music form. So also they speak and tell you something in between. But they are also very enjoyable and they are thinking of having opera in Maharashtra. But now let – when they’ll see you then I think they’ll give up the idea, they can’t do that well, I’m sure. [Shri Mataji is laughing. Laughter]. In any case, Austria is a place, is the – I think is the origin, is the distribution, is the complete sky of Western classical music, no doubt about it. And you all are all really built into it. The way you have played and the way you have sung is very remarkable, it has touched My heart. I wish we had the complete seventy-five minutes program, but the problem is that supposing you have one day for this, then it’s all right. No, as it is, we have only two days in that this cannot be fully expressed. But we’ll arrange a program, we’ll definitely arrange a program in, say, Albert Hall I think, it’s easy to get. We get it every time, again we’ll get this time. And I’m sure they will be very impressed. Because they don’t know what music you have in your country and how much people know and how much they can sing so well.It’s something very rare, you don’t understand. I feel it because I must say I’m not so much used to operas, and whatever operas I have seen, this is thousand times better than that.So, I’m really amazed at your achievement. I don’t know if it is Sahaja Yog that has helped you, but this collective, collective singing, is the biggest thing. Collective, in tune with all other musicians, it’s really very, very great and this unison, this oneness, if it is through Sahaja Yoga, I’m very happy about it. We are all overly satisfied and I can see your future – it will be a great future for all of you. We shouldn’t take so much of botheration about how we’ll do it and how will it work out – it will, it will work out. Your desire is much stronger than the desire of any other artist.So just desire, it will all work out and we’ll show to them how Sahaja Yoga can create such beautiful music.So thank you very much, and I thank from all others the way you have entertained us with this beautiful music and such great hopes of a future expressions of your art. May God bless you.[Applause] Then the Slovakia people are also another very great geniuses. Yesterday, we saw their drama and today again we saw – I’m amazed absolutely. Is it Sahaja Yoga that has made them so good in art? The creativity was so great and their play, drama was so beautiful. So beautifully rendered; yesterday also, today also. I mean, they are such dramatist I didn’t know, I mean, how could they be that confident of their acting and everything, is really remarkable. When I was young I used to act also in dramas, and I used to get first prize mostly. Maybe I could (She laughs) quite disguise Myself as something else, but the, you see, the art, art of acting was so great even with them, I was surprised how they could freely act so well. Again I would say if it is Sahaja Yog, carry on, carry on with Sahaja Yoga. And I’m sure this creativity, the blessings of Saraswati will be upon you; and we’ll have even bigger dramas and bigger – we should say – expositions somewhere, maybe later on we can have it in India, or have it in America, anywhere.So, I see all that before Me, and you’ll be very well-known artists, all of you; even the Slovakia people have great talent I must say. Such a great talent! This talent is a special gift of God, no doubt. But to combine it, to express it, to work it out in such a collective manner, is something very different and very beautiful, and it really made Me feel very confident about you people, that one day through you, Sahaja Yoga will spread all over the world, and people will start knowing this Sahaj orchestra and Sahaj artists. It’s really great, very great, and I bless you from My heart for that. Then we had some other programs of this, like Kathak dance, and also I’m amazed that a German girl can dance so well that Kathak. It’s not easy, it’s very difficult. And rhythmic sense, and all the expression and everything – she was so delicately doing it, I was surprised. I never thought that German girls could be that delicate, but really, they are so delicate and so beautifully expressing their... all the delicacies of a lady in her dancing, is… All – I don’t want to take your time describing all of them, but one after another every program has been great. And the way you are now depicting those great musicians is something very creditable. Because world has forgotten them. They want pop music, cheap music, easy music – but once you start establishing it, the vibrations will flow and people will realise how great this music was and was lost. So this trend that is in the whole world is to become cheapish and to become something very, very superficial, will be curbed by your own dedication and your own expressions, which will definitely make the vibrations flow to the audience, and they will enjoy it very much. Because you are now divine people, so your rendering is very different from others, at least I felt that way. I felt – it gave Me such great joy, such great joy that I didn’t get from all other operas I have seen, and somehow I couldn’t understand the way they were quite confused I felt, not so well organized as you people are. So, My blessings again and again for all of you, and the way this program has been arranged by these countries that I’m thankful to them, to their leaders, and to all of them that they have done a very great job. So many people have come from other countries also here, and they should also take a lesson, and try to develop this style of combining music and expressing their great, very great artists, that they had their own[company?]. I’m trying to get one of our Indian - I should say an opera-style thing - here, but it’s very difficult to get so many people [Shri Mataji is laughing].But you would enjoy that, really. So let us see if I could manage sometime a group of people who will come and give you a kind of an opera as you have.Thank you very much.

Music will bring glory to Sahaja Yoga, Eve of Sahasrara puja, 08/05/1999,Evening Program [Talk after the music program and of the Magic Flute] Sometimes, the words fail to express the feelings of great gratitude for all of you – for putting up this collective effort and such a beautiful concentrated work as a real piece of art. I had seen “Magic Flute” long time back, when I was in Berlin, and that time – of course I didn’t understand German language, but I absolutely got lost by the rhythm, the music, the tuning and everything. So, actually the way you have brought in that very, very beautiful piece of art to life – I feel so much grateful to you that you are all Sahaja Yogis, and to Sahaja Yogis to perform this kind of magnificent, tremendous art piece, I don’t know whom to thank, really. Because now I can see our future, we’ll be going all over the world, taking this music. And may not be this one, may be another one, but you are all such a great group that you can really surpass everybody else who are having all these operas everywhere. Actually, I would say in London it’s very easy to get that hall which is mostly used for operas, the Royal Albert Hall. So we can reserve for you that, and we’ll have the whole thing done. I mean, I could never imagine that you were such masters. I shouldn’t say professionals, but really masters. And the way you all concentrated. This is the main point of collective playing is that there should be complete concentration. I just wanted to test you, so I said, “Sing also Binati Suniye”. But despite that, you came back to your normal and you were doing everything so well, even after that; I don’t know how to congratulate you and all of you who have taken to it, worked together, in such unison and with such clarity. I must say, I would say it was even better than the one I had seen, much better. You see, because I couldn’t even understand the language, apart from that, it was little they, I felt, they were little confused comparatively, while you people were straight, absolutely could see what you were doing, and what you were performing, and what you were giving. Now I see your future, the future of Sahaja Yoga. Through you people, the glory of Sahaja Yoga will spread. But when we have the program, we’ll have all formal dresses and all formalities, and I’m sure – I bless you from My heart – that we’ll have the complete of this particular play by Mozart. Complete. And we’ll do it so well, I know, and people will know that what Sahaja Yoga can do to your collectivity by which you can achieve it – because this collectivity you can’t have in any other form of performance. This has to be all of you, the players, singers, then the dialogues and everything has to be in unison.In Maharashtra, in Marathi, we have dramas of this kind, which can be called as operas, but apart from that, there is lot of – what you can say – dialogues which are not in the tune or in the music form. So also they speak and tell you something in between. But they are also very enjoyable and they are thinking of having opera in Maharashtra. But now let – when they’ll see you then I think they’ll give up the idea, they can’t do that well, I’m sure. [Shri Mataji is laughing. Laughter]. In any case, Austria is a place, is the – I think is the origin, is the distribution, is the complete sky of Western classical music, no doubt about it. And you all are all really built into it. The way you have played and the way you have sung is very remarkable, it has touched My heart. I wish we had the complete seventy-five minutes program, but the problem is that supposing you have one day for this, then it’s all right. No, as it is, we have only two days in that this cannot be fully expressed. But we’ll arrange a program, we’ll definitely arrange a program in, say, Albert Hall I think, it’s easy to get. We get it every time, again we’ll get this time. And I’m sure they will be very impressed. Because they don’t know what music you have in your country and how much people know and how much they can sing so well.It’s something very rare, you don’t understand. I feel it because I must say I’m not so much used to operas, and whatever operas I have seen, this is thousand times better than that.So, I’m really amazed at your achievement. I don’t know if it is Sahaja Yog that has helped you, but this collective, collective singing, is the biggest thing. Collective, in tune with all other musicians, it’s really very, very great and this unison, this oneness, if it is through Sahaja Yoga, I’m very happy about it. We are all overly satisfied and I can see your future – it will be a great future for all of you. We shouldn’t take so much of botheration about how we’ll do it and how will it work out – it will, it will work out. Your desire is much stronger than the desire of any other artist.So just desire, it will all work out and we’ll show to them how Sahaja Yoga can create such beautiful music.So thank you very much, and I thank from all others the way you have entertained us with this beautiful music and such great hopes of a future expressions of your art. May God bless you.[Applause] Then the Slovakia people are also another very great geniuses. Yesterday, we saw their drama and today again we saw – I’m amazed absolutely. Is it Sahaja Yoga that has made them so good in art? The creativity was so great and their play, drama was so beautiful. So beautifully rendered; yesterday also, today also. I mean, they are such dramatist I didn’t know, I mean, how could they be that confident of their acting and everything, is really remarkable. When I was young I used to act also in dramas, and I used to get first prize mostly. Maybe I could (She laughs) quite disguise Myself as something else, but the, you see, the art, art of acting was so great even with them, I was surprised how they could freely act so well. Again I would say if it is Sahaja Yog, carry on, carry on with Sahaja Yoga. And I’m sure this creativity, the blessings of Saraswati will be upon you; and we’ll have even bigger dramas and bigger – we should say – expositions somewhere, maybe later on we can have it in India, or have it in America, anywhere.So, I see all that before Me, and you’ll be very well-known artists, all of you; even the Slovakia people have great talent I must say. Such a great talent! This talent is a special gift of God, no doubt. But to combine it, to express it, to work it out in such a collective manner, is something very different and very beautiful, and it really made Me feel very confident about you people, that one day through you, Sahaja Yoga will spread all over the world, and people will start knowing this Sahaj orchestra and Sahaj artists. It’s really great, very great, and I bless you from My heart for that. Then we had some other programs of this, like Kathak dance, and also I’m amazed that a German girl can dance so well that Kathak. It’s not easy, it’s very difficult. And rhythmic sense, and all the expression and everything – she was so delicately doing it, I was surprised. I never thought that German girls could be that delicate, but really, they are so delicate and so beautifully expressing their... all the delicacies of a lady in her dancing, is… All – I don’t want to take your time describing all of them, but one after another every program has been great. And the way you are now depicting those great musicians is something very creditable. Because world has forgotten them. They want pop music, cheap music, easy music – but once you start establishing it, the vibrations will flow and people will realise how great this music was and was lost. So this trend that is in the whole world is to become cheapish and to become something very, very superficial, will be curbed by your own dedication and your own expressions, which will definitely make the vibrations flow to the audience, and they will enjoy it very much. Because you are now divine people, so your rendering is very different from others, at least I felt that way. I felt – it gave Me such great joy, such great joy that I didn’t get from all other operas I have seen, and somehow I couldn’t understand the way they were quite confused I felt, not so well organized as you people are. So, My blessings again and again for all of you, and the way this program has been arranged by these countries that I’m thankful to them, to their leaders, and to all of them that they have done a very great job. So many people have come from other countries also here, and they should also take a lesson, and try to develop this style of combining music and expressing their great, very great artists, that they had their own[company?]. I’m trying to get one of our Indian - I should say an opera-style thing - here, but it’s very difficult to get so many people [Shri Mataji is laughing].But you would enjoy that, really. So let us see if I could manage sometime a group of people who will come and give you a kind of an opera as you have.Thank you very much.

5/9/1999

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Sahasrara Puja: Our Awareness has to become Paramchaitanya

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Sahasrara Puja, “Our Awareness has to become Paramchaitanya” Cabella Ligure, (Italy), 9 May 1999. Today we have gathered here to do the Sahasrara puja. Sahasrar, the word ‘sahastr’, in Sanskrit language, means ‘one thousand’. And there are one thousand petals in our brain which get enlightened. Of course, the doctors are quarrelling on that point but forget about them. Now these petals are kept ready for our enlightenment, and these are really the nerves, one thousand nerves, which are there for the enlightenment of the brain. So, when the Kundalini rises, she enlightens those one thousand nerves which become like — as you see here, the shape of these flames — like a petal. And that’s why it is called as ‘Sahasrara’ — is the centre of Sahasrara. In the human beings it is a very important centre, because this is the only centre by which we think and we try to stop whatever we don’t like. This is the centre which reacts, reacts in such a manner that, without any discretion we start saying, ‘no’ to this, and, ‘no’ to that, on small things also. Like somebody might say, “I don't like this carpet,” “I don't like this house,” “I don't like that.” This language itself shows that — who are you? First find out! But you cannot become yourself unless and until this Sahasrara, this brain is opened out and the Kundalini becomes one with the Paramchaitanya. Before that, you are in complete ignorance about what is good and what is bad. Whatever you think [that], for this brain, is good, you do it. But whatever is really good, you do not know, because you do not know the Reality. Now we have to understand the consciousness that we have: consciousness of being alive, consciousness of so many things we have, and the so-called knowledge we have about everything. All that consciousness is stored near the liver — for your information — by this diaphragm. But then, this consciousness starts rising, higher and higher. Then you become aware. In the evolutionary process, you become aware, aware of things. Without going through your brain, you just become aware. And how? Not by thinking, not by understanding or seeing, but you become aware because your brain has now started working in a manner that’s very, very sensitive. So you just become aware of some sort of a fear, or maybe some sort of a goodness or anything. But it goes even further. The growth of consciousness, which becomes aware, goes further: where you start liking a person, or disliking a person. But, still it’s nothing definite and sure. You dislike a person because he has a particular type of a face, maybe eyes or maybe anything. Or maybe because you have known somebody who has been very nice, so you start transferring that image onto others. With these transferred images, you can hate or love someone. Then you start saying, “I hate this, I hate that,” which has no, actually, substantial meaning. You hate it because, perhaps, maybe such and such person looks like somebody. Now you go further with it, then you see that, such and such person — now I’m not talking about things, but about persons — such and such person has done this harm to me — something negative. So you start feeling that you should hate that person. Now you start hating that person. With that hatred you develop new faculties [of] how to harm that person. Then you start thinking how to destroy that person, how to make his life miserable. Then you may beat that person, you may shout at that person, you may try to kill that person. You can do anything. So now the awareness is going towards another direction, which is darkness, which is not light, because in the light you won’t do such a thing. In the light you see everybody, everybody is sitting, you know how far you are, where you are sitting. If you want to go out, you know how to walk out. But when, in the darkness you are there, you just don't understand and you go on behaving in a manner which cannot be explained otherwise, except that, because you are a human being. Animals don't do it like that: animals have limitations. The animals, if they find something wrong, something absolutely harmful, then they will attack or run away, but they do not carry a kind of a hatred or anything. But they can carry the impression of fear, could be, of some sort of a harm done to them. But human beings are not like that. Human beings don’t have any particular reason, as such, to hate someone. But why it works out? Because they have involved in their ego. Egoistical person feels that he has a right to do what he wants to do: he can kill anybody, he can bomb anyone, he can do whatever he likes. But a person who is not doing that, is the other way round: he is frightened, he is afraid of someone. Now the awareness moves on. This is a subtler awareness, because if you are afraid of somebody, you would not like to go to his house, you will avoid him in the street, all things you can do. So all this kind of knowledge about other human beings also accumulates in your mind. Then this thing starts working on a collective level, because you think, “This group is very bad. They are good. These are bad. They are excellent!” like that, it works out. In your own mind you think that somebody has a group, and the other group is better or that group is better. And collectively, then, you start working out your whole temperament, your awareness. Like once people decide that say, for example, that black people are to be finished, so all the white people can join together. Or like, at the time of Hitler, he decided that all other human beings but Germans were useless. So he gathered people around his thought and ideas. And this collective awareness just comes to, I don't know how, but it enters into the minds of many. They never challenge it, they never ask [about] it, whether it is correct or not. So this grows more and more and more, and then it becomes like a — country-wise, you can say — an awareness of this kind of a feeling. But whether it is correct or not is not understood, is not known. So, what is important [is] that you should know Reality, you should know exactly what is right and what is wrong. For that, as I told you, there is this great power of Kundalini within you. She’s the one, She passes through all these centres, enlightens them first of all, so your awareness gets enlightened. And when She pierces through Sahasrara, She joins you to this All-pervading Power which is Knowledge, which is love, which is Truth. So, after that, you immediately know — some people don't know immediately, but some people do — that what we have been thinking, so far, of separating ourselves from others by thinking they are not all right, they are wrong, they are whatever it is — this disappears. This disappears completely, and then you realise that your awareness itself, awareness itself is dominated by so many other circumstances. For example, where you were born, what your parents taught you, what experiences you have had. And then you realise that it was all wrong, because it’s not Reality. Whatever feelings you have, whatever ideas you have about another person or about another nation, all of them are not correct. Because now your Sahasrara is awakened, it is connected now to the All-pervading Power. So this starts flowing into you. This enlightened awareness, it starts flowing down into your being, in your brain, and then on your nerves you can feel that awareness. Now once you want to know about something, whether it is right or wrong — absolute right and wrong. It’s not [a] question of relative — you just have to put your hands towards that person, or towards that thing or whatever it is: immediately on these vibrations you will know. So what are these vibrations? Is this Paramachaitanya, we call it ‘Brahmachaitanya’, which starts flowing through your finger tips. Now you start feeling what chakras are catching, whether they are right or wrong, and your discretion improves immensely. The brain, which was putting you in delusions and wrong type of life, immediately corrects itself. For example, I am walking in a place with my eyes closed, and there is a big ditch. I can't see it, I am just walking. And suddenly I open my eyes and see the ditch: immediately I know it’s wrong and I give up and come away. In the same way it happens to you when your Sahasrara is enlightened. Whatever you had gathered, knowledge, whatever you think was right, whatever was your dream and your aims of life, all these aspirations, they melt away. And then you take to reality and you start seeing the reality of everything. Unless and until you see that reality, you will be going with [the] other crowd: “These people are saying so, so let’s do that.” “They are saying so, so let’s do that.” But you cannot see whether it is correct or not, it’s good for you or not, or whether it is going to help you. This kind of thing is so common in the whole world and that’s why there is so much problem. Because they don’t know the reality. Once you know the reality, most of the problems can be finished, because this brain itself is creating problems. First of all, it commits all kinds of atrocities, violence, everything; then it also justifies itself, and then it does even worse things. All this, they used to call it as sin, but now in Sahaja Yoga, that’s finished now. Whatever your brain was contaminated with is now cleansed. It has got the knowledge and through the knowledge you can make out what is right and what is wrong. Up to this point is all right. But then you must have full understanding that, whatever [is] right, is right, and whatever [is] wrong is wrong, and we should not do anything that is wrong, always do the right. You have to decide on that point: "Now we have to do the right only, never the wrong." This, when it comes to your mind, then what starts is your determination: what we call as devotion, dedication, surrendering. With that, you give up all your false ideas and all your false pride, all other things that you have been doing so far, and immediately you become a different person, a beautiful person. Now the third thing that happens to you, which never happened to you before, [is] that you feel that: unless and until I give the same state to other people, it won't be all right, it won't be all right for me to talk to them. So you start talking to your brothers and sisters. Then you start talking to other people. Then start talking to…[the] whole nation about Sahaja Yoga, that, “I have gained so much, I have got these things, so now, why not you take it?” But to expect that by talking, by discussion, by arguments, by sermoning…they will never take. Because their brain, as I told you, is just the same — still full of ignorance. So what you have to do is to raise their Kundalini. Once you raise their Kundalini and their brain opens, then they are on the same line as yourself. They don't have to worry about what is good and what is bad, they know [it] themselves. Now that is what is very important. To correct this world is very important: that you all should know what is right and what is wrong. And you have a vehicle of Paramachaitanya to know what is wrong and what is right. Now this strength starts moving and, as you see, there are so many people, today, with their open Sahasrara. So opening Sahasrara was the most important part of the evolutionary process. All other evolutionary process brought human beings to what level? We had wars, we had all kinds of silly programmes by which we really ruined so many countries, so many people. Now when you are one with that All-pervading Power: It’s a pure power. It’s a nirmal power. Absolutely pure power. That gives you complete sense and complete understanding as to how you should move, how you should live, and what you should have. This is what is Self-realisation, they say. But I would say that Self-realisation is much further than that. Even if your brain is enriched by the Knowledge, the Real Knowledge, still there are other things which you should have. And the most important thing is that you have to be completely aware — again I say the word ‘aware’ — of where you stand in this big plan of world global transformation. What is your position? What are you supposed to do for this global transformation? What is your position? Where do you stand? What is the work for you to be done? Now you’ve got this compulsion on you, that, “I have to do something.” When this compulsion starts working on you, which is not dreadful, which is not annoying, but very peaceful and joyful, which says that, “I have to see that others also know themselves!” So to know themselves is, first of all, you must know your own chakras. Yes, many people get their Realisation, I know, very quickly. But they do not settle down with their chakras. They have to see to their chakras: why you have problems on your chakras. They will know they have problems, but they still go on without paying attention or without looking at it. To them it is a kind of a by the way [style], you can say: that, “These problems are with me doesn’t matter. What does it matter as long as I am working out Sahaja Yoga?” It is not only for others, but for yourself also! It’s important that you should get your chakras corrected. That’s the most important thing for you, and then you will have Self-knowledge, in the sense [that] you will know what is the defect, where is the defect, “What am I doing wrong? What should I do?” And then when you correct it, when you correct those centres, then your awareness will be really, fully enlightened about all the world. Now, it’s a tremendous thing — it’s very tremendous. Because if you have to transform this mad world into something very sane, and if we have to give them all Self-realisation, imagine the task, how great it is, how many people we need to do it. But if your will power is strong about it and you feel compelled to do it. But normally we are compelled because we have to run our houses, we have to earn money, we have to do this, we have to do that. That you can do. But the main object of your life is to transform people and to work it out, this transformation, for the global peace. I don't know [if] it has been predicted or not, that a complete transformation will take place, but they have talked about transformation. I don’t know that part, and I just don’t bother my head as to how many people are getting transformed. But after transformation you must settle down. First of all you should see if you are a peaceful person, if there’s peace in your heart. If you have no peace in your heart then you are not a Sahaja Yogi. If you get excited and if you start shouting at people and all that, it means you are not Sahaj Yogis. You have to have a very, very peaceful temperament, that is very important. Now with that peace what should be there, [is] pure compassion. What you are doing is not for your benefit as such, but because you are compelled by this Force to do good for others, to transform them. This is the greatest good you can do to others, that their brains are put right, they get rid of their diseases, they get rid of their problems. It’s all there. But, the first thing and the most important thing that happens [is] that they get the power to transform others. When you have that power to transform others you should not waste it, you should not use it for yourself. That means the growth is not complete. You must talk about it, you must tell about it, and you must work it out. Wherever it is possible you have to work it out. This is the way we can spread people on a global level, who can get complete transformation. All our problems, whether in India or anywhere, is because of human beings, because they have not been enlightened. If you are enlightened you’ll have no problem of any quarrelling or any fighting and all that. If you are enlightened, then you will think about others as if they are your own; you bother your heads about them. You will not think about yourself anymore. If you are enlightened then [there’s] no question of any violence in your head. Nowadays in the name of religion, in the name of everything, there is so much of violence. This violence can be easily corrected if they all become Sahaj Yogis. Think, if all the people become Sahaj Yogis, how will they quarrel, for what? So religion is there, but above all these religions is the religion of Sahaj Yoga, where you become one. And there all these quarrels of religions will disappear. This is not the only problem we have as human beings, we have some other problems also, very serious. That is, we have a hankering. We are very greedy. We cannot adjust ourselves to any other circumstances. We want to live in complete comfort and this and that. But after this you can sleep anywhere, you can eat anywhere, you need not eat. You become a person who is above all these needs, all these demands, absolutely. Then you don’t worry, you don’t worry. There’s worry for what? Supposing I get lost somewhere and the car is going in a wrong way: all right, I have to go that way, that’s why I am going like that. What is there to feel upset about it? So many things, small, big, happen in your life for which you get upset. But now, with this blessing of Sahasrara, you will be amazed, there is help from Paramchaitanya. And that means a tremendous help because it acts globally, it acts individually, it acts on communities, it acts on nations, because there is a Divine — what we call ‘Divine’ — there is a Divine play going on. And this Divine play plays tremendous beautiful things, by which people start correcting themselves. So, you should never be nervous, you should never be upset, because you have the Divine Power within you, and it will correct. It can correct anyone. I mean, recently we had a case of one boy who was hit by a truck and they said his lungs were smashed. Now, with the lungs smashed, nobody has heard that they become normal. Not only they became normal, but he started breathing normally. And now he is all right. This work is done by Paramchaitanya. You don't have to do anything. Any problem that comes before you, before it really touches you, it’s solved by the Paramchaitanya. But you must have full faith in yourself and in Paramachaitanya and believe that you are a realised-soul. Nobody can harm you. If they try to harm you, for the time being, all right, you may suffer, but also you don’t feel the sufferings and you get out of it. Such a security, such a proper guidance is there. Also you are saved from all kinds of attacks and all kinds of mistakes that you commit. It’s all such a big Computer of Knowledge. He knows, It knows, what you are doing and what you should not do, where you are going and what should not be your way. He knows, It knows, everything, knows everything about you. So then you have to become aware of It. Now this is the stage where I would say that you have to be aware that you are realised-souls, you are different, very unique. You are realised-souls, you are not ordinary people. And that you are protected by this Paramchaitanya. Nothing can change you, nothing can trouble you, nothing can overpower you. Because you are not aware, also, of this Paramchaitanya, that’s why you, a little bit, get worried. And people write to me sometimes, “Mother, something wrong with my daughter, something this thing.” Everything can be corrected by Paramchaitanya, if you know how to leave it to That, if you understand how you are one with that Paramchaitanya, you’re a part and parcel of that. And that Paramchaitanya is looking after you. You don’t have [a] very conscious effort, there’s no need to have very conscious effort. Accept life as it is. As it is, whatever life is there, accept. Don't retaliate, don’t get angry, don’t get upset. Just accept. And you will enjoy the same life which was irritating you! You will see the enjoying part of that, and it will be so beautiful the way you will see that you will get over all your problems, you will get over all your enemies. And a kind of a very fresh, beautiful existence you will have. So now, as you are all Sahaja Yogis, it’s a very great position. With that, if you humble down, humble down, then you’ll be amazed to see that, you are absolutely in contact with this Paramchaitanya; not only that, but you have become Paramchaitanya. With this Paramchaitanya you can do anything. I need not tell you what you can do, because some of you may not believe me. But that’s [what] my own experience is, that, if you are the Paramchaitanya, if you know you are the Paramchaitanya, then it keeps your dignity, it keeps your position, it keeps your world and looks after you. And whatever is just said or desired, you just get it. Your desires also change. Your desires are not for stupid things, but for something that is very noble. Like, you want to transform people, you want to do Sahaj Yoga work. All these desires are fulfilled fully, when you want to do it, you like it and you think of it. It is something, even seeing something: if you see something and you are stunned by that! Immediately Paramchaitanya will take over and you will have no problems, no problems. Because the way we react to all these difficulties and to so-called odds in life becomes a play, just a play. You are amazed! You looked at it and finished! Look at that, and finished! That is how it is the light which goes into the darkness and finishes the darkness. The darkness is finished, and our problems are finished also. So this is what our awareness has to become. Awareness has to become Paramchaitanya. Then you get all the ideas, everything that are Divine. But not only that, but also the help of the Divine, all the solutions of the Divine. It’s something amazing! And everything quietens down, everything settles down, and you are amazed, watching all this, that you are the centre of doing all these things. You are not aware that you are doing, and you are this, that ego thought is missing in you, but you see it’s all happening around you, and then you are amazed how it is happening. The whole lifestyle changes, the whole understanding changes, and you become a great source of happiness, joy and knowledge to others. You don’t have to study anything, you don’t have to know much, but you will know about everything, what is right and what is wrong. And then only you can tell the things with complete authority that, “This is not right!” Like today, we had a discussion on this point about the economic position and the economics of modern times. I said, “It’s all wrong, because it is self-destructive.” It destroys the nations, if not your nation, other nations. Then it also destroys your family life. It destroys your value system. It completely destroys you. So what sort of an economics is this? It’s just a show, just like a balloon: it can burst any moment. I have seen people who are very rich, very this thing, think no end of themselves [then] become bankrupt. And very bankrupt become rich. So it’s [a] kind of a turmoil in which they are jumping, from one shore to another shore. But you are not. You watch that drama. You see all that drama, and with your peace you can see everything, very calmly. It’s not difficult for you to create more people like this. It’s not difficult to transform this world. The time has come, just ripe time. Like when the proper time comes, the blossom time comes, so many flowers become fruits. So, like that, you all have become. Now it is for you to create seeds to spread Sahaja Yoga. You are at that level of awareness now where Paramchaitanya is with you, absolutely part and parcel of you, absolutely with you to give you all necessary help, all necessary prestige, and also the personality. May God bless you all. (Puja starts) Yogi: All the children from five to ten years. Tutti i bambini da cinque a dieci anni. Ganesh Sthuti, Sanskrit page 11. Yogi: Hindi 63. Seven ladies from the hosting countries to come to the puja, please. (Jago Savera) Yogi: Marathi 36. Tujhya Pujani. Yogi: Hindi 67. Vishwa Vandita. (Aarti and Mahamantras) Yogi: Bolo Shri Sahasrara Swamini Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi ki! Yogis: Jai! Shri Mataji: May God bless you. May God bless you. May God bless you.

Sahasrara Puja, “Our Awareness has to become Paramchaitanya” Cabella Ligure, (Italy), 9 May 1999. Today we have gathered here to do the Sahasrara puja. Sahasrar, the word ‘sahastr’, in Sanskrit language, means ‘one thousand’. And there are one thousand petals in our brain which get enlightened. Of course, the doctors are quarrelling on that point but forget about them. Now these petals are kept ready for our enlightenment, and these are really the nerves, one thousand nerves, which are there for the enlightenment of the brain. So, when the Kundalini rises, she enlightens those one thousand nerves which become like — as you see here, the shape of these flames — like a petal. And that’s why it is called as ‘Sahasrara’ — is the centre of Sahasrara. In the human beings it is a very important centre, because this is the only centre by which we think and we try to stop whatever we don’t like. This is the centre which reacts, reacts in such a manner that, without any discretion we start saying, ‘no’ to this, and, ‘no’ to that, on small things also. Like somebody might say, “I don't like this carpet,” “I don't like this house,” “I don't like that.” This language itself shows that — who are you? First find out! But you cannot become yourself unless and until this Sahasrara, this brain is opened out and the Kundalini becomes one with the Paramchaitanya. Before that, you are in complete ignorance about what is good and what is bad. Whatever you think [that], for this brain, is good, you do it. But whatever is really good, you do not know, because you do not know the Reality. Now we have to understand the consciousness that we have: consciousness of being alive, consciousness of so many things we have, and the so-called knowledge we have about everything. All that consciousness is stored near the liver — for your information — by this diaphragm. But then, this consciousness starts rising, higher and higher. Then you become aware. In the evolutionary process, you become aware, aware of things. Without going through your brain, you just become aware. And how? Not by thinking, not by understanding or seeing, but you become aware because your brain has now started working in a manner that’s very, very sensitive. So you just become aware of some sort of a fear, or maybe some sort of a goodness or anything. But it goes even further. The growth of consciousness, which becomes aware, goes further: where you start liking a person, or disliking a person. But, still it’s nothing definite and sure. You dislike a person because he has a particular type of a face, maybe eyes or maybe anything. Or maybe because you have known somebody who has been very nice, so you start transferring that image onto others. With these transferred images, you can hate or love someone. Then you start saying, “I hate this, I hate that,” which has no, actually, substantial meaning. You hate it because, perhaps, maybe such and such person looks like somebody. Now you go further with it, then you see that, such and such person — now I’m not talking about things, but about persons — such and such person has done this harm to me — something negative. So you start feeling that you should hate that person. Now you start hating that person. With that hatred you develop new faculties [of] how to harm that person. Then you start thinking how to destroy that person, how to make his life miserable. Then you may beat that person, you may shout at that person, you may try to kill that person. You can do anything. So now the awareness is going towards another direction, which is darkness, which is not light, because in the light you won’t do such a thing. In the light you see everybody, everybody is sitting, you know how far you are, where you are sitting. If you want to go out, you know how to walk out. But when, in the darkness you are there, you just don't understand and you go on behaving in a manner which cannot be explained otherwise, except that, because you are a human being. Animals don't do it like that: animals have limitations. The animals, if they find something wrong, something absolutely harmful, then they will attack or run away, but they do not carry a kind of a hatred or anything. But they can carry the impression of fear, could be, of some sort of a harm done to them. But human beings are not like that. Human beings don’t have any particular reason, as such, to hate someone. But why it works out? Because they have involved in their ego. Egoistical person feels that he has a right to do what he wants to do: he can kill anybody, he can bomb anyone, he can do whatever he likes. But a person who is not doing that, is the other way round: he is frightened, he is afraid of someone. Now the awareness moves on. This is a subtler awareness, because if you are afraid of somebody, you would not like to go to his house, you will avoid him in the street, all things you can do. So all this kind of knowledge about other human beings also accumulates in your mind. Then this thing starts working on a collective level, because you think, “This group is very bad. They are good. These are bad. They are excellent!” like that, it works out. In your own mind you think that somebody has a group, and the other group is better or that group is better. And collectively, then, you start working out your whole temperament, your awareness. Like once people decide that say, for example, that black people are to be finished, so all the white people can join together. Or like, at the time of Hitler, he decided that all other human beings but Germans were useless. So he gathered people around his thought and ideas. And this collective awareness just comes to, I don't know how, but it enters into the minds of many. They never challenge it, they never ask [about] it, whether it is correct or not. So this grows more and more and more, and then it becomes like a — country-wise, you can say — an awareness of this kind of a feeling. But whether it is correct or not is not understood, is not known. So, what is important [is] that you should know Reality, you should know exactly what is right and what is wrong. For that, as I told you, there is this great power of Kundalini within you. She’s the one, She passes through all these centres, enlightens them first of all, so your awareness gets enlightened. And when She pierces through Sahasrara, She joins you to this All-pervading Power which is Knowledge, which is love, which is Truth. So, after that, you immediately know — some people don't know immediately, but some people do — that what we have been thinking, so far, of separating ourselves from others by thinking they are not all right, they are wrong, they are whatever it is — this disappears. This disappears completely, and then you realise that your awareness itself, awareness itself is dominated by so many other circumstances. For example, where you were born, what your parents taught you, what experiences you have had. And then you realise that it was all wrong, because it’s not Reality. Whatever feelings you have, whatever ideas you have about another person or about another nation, all of them are not correct. Because now your Sahasrara is awakened, it is connected now to the All-pervading Power. So this starts flowing into you. This enlightened awareness, it starts flowing down into your being, in your brain, and then on your nerves you can feel that awareness. Now once you want to know about something, whether it is right or wrong — absolute right and wrong. It’s not [a] question of relative — you just have to put your hands towards that person, or towards that thing or whatever it is: immediately on these vibrations you will know. So what are these vibrations? Is this Paramachaitanya, we call it ‘Brahmachaitanya’, which starts flowing through your finger tips. Now you start feeling what chakras are catching, whether they are right or wrong, and your discretion improves immensely. The brain, which was putting you in delusions and wrong type of life, immediately corrects itself. For example, I am walking in a place with my eyes closed, and there is a big ditch. I can't see it, I am just walking. And suddenly I open my eyes and see the ditch: immediately I know it’s wrong and I give up and come away. In the same way it happens to you when your Sahasrara is enlightened. Whatever you had gathered, knowledge, whatever you think was right, whatever was your dream and your aims of life, all these aspirations, they melt away. And then you take to reality and you start seeing the reality of everything. Unless and until you see that reality, you will be going with [the] other crowd: “These people are saying so, so let’s do that.” “They are saying so, so let’s do that.” But you cannot see whether it is correct or not, it’s good for you or not, or whether it is going to help you. This kind of thing is so common in the whole world and that’s why there is so much problem. Because they don’t know the reality. Once you know the reality, most of the problems can be finished, because this brain itself is creating problems. First of all, it commits all kinds of atrocities, violence, everything; then it also justifies itself, and then it does even worse things. All this, they used to call it as sin, but now in Sahaja Yoga, that’s finished now. Whatever your brain was contaminated with is now cleansed. It has got the knowledge and through the knowledge you can make out what is right and what is wrong. Up to this point is all right. But then you must have full understanding that, whatever [is] right, is right, and whatever [is] wrong is wrong, and we should not do anything that is wrong, always do the right. You have to decide on that point: "Now we have to do the right only, never the wrong." This, when it comes to your mind, then what starts is your determination: what we call as devotion, dedication, surrendering. With that, you give up all your false ideas and all your false pride, all other things that you have been doing so far, and immediately you become a different person, a beautiful person. Now the third thing that happens to you, which never happened to you before, [is] that you feel that: unless and until I give the same state to other people, it won't be all right, it won't be all right for me to talk to them. So you start talking to your brothers and sisters. Then you start talking to other people. Then start talking to…[the] whole nation about Sahaja Yoga, that, “I have gained so much, I have got these things, so now, why not you take it?” But to expect that by talking, by discussion, by arguments, by sermoning…they will never take. Because their brain, as I told you, is just the same — still full of ignorance. So what you have to do is to raise their Kundalini. Once you raise their Kundalini and their brain opens, then they are on the same line as yourself. They don't have to worry about what is good and what is bad, they know [it] themselves. Now that is what is very important. To correct this world is very important: that you all should know what is right and what is wrong. And you have a vehicle of Paramachaitanya to know what is wrong and what is right. Now this strength starts moving and, as you see, there are so many people, today, with their open Sahasrara. So opening Sahasrara was the most important part of the evolutionary process. All other evolutionary process brought human beings to what level? We had wars, we had all kinds of silly programmes by which we really ruined so many countries, so many people. Now when you are one with that All-pervading Power: It’s a pure power. It’s a nirmal power. Absolutely pure power. That gives you complete sense and complete understanding as to how you should move, how you should live, and what you should have. This is what is Self-realisation, they say. But I would say that Self-realisation is much further than that. Even if your brain is enriched by the Knowledge, the Real Knowledge, still there are other things which you should have. And the most important thing is that you have to be completely aware — again I say the word ‘aware’ — of where you stand in this big plan of world global transformation. What is your position? What are you supposed to do for this global transformation? What is your position? Where do you stand? What is the work for you to be done? Now you’ve got this compulsion on you, that, “I have to do something.” When this compulsion starts working on you, which is not dreadful, which is not annoying, but very peaceful and joyful, which says that, “I have to see that others also know themselves!” So to know themselves is, first of all, you must know your own chakras. Yes, many people get their Realisation, I know, very quickly. But they do not settle down with their chakras. They have to see to their chakras: why you have problems on your chakras. They will know they have problems, but they still go on without paying attention or without looking at it. To them it is a kind of a by the way [style], you can say: that, “These problems are with me doesn’t matter. What does it matter as long as I am working out Sahaja Yoga?” It is not only for others, but for yourself also! It’s important that you should get your chakras corrected. That’s the most important thing for you, and then you will have Self-knowledge, in the sense [that] you will know what is the defect, where is the defect, “What am I doing wrong? What should I do?” And then when you correct it, when you correct those centres, then your awareness will be really, fully enlightened about all the world. Now, it’s a tremendous thing — it’s very tremendous. Because if you have to transform this mad world into something very sane, and if we have to give them all Self-realisation, imagine the task, how great it is, how many people we need to do it. But if your will power is strong about it and you feel compelled to do it. But normally we are compelled because we have to run our houses, we have to earn money, we have to do this, we have to do that. That you can do. But the main object of your life is to transform people and to work it out, this transformation, for the global peace. I don't know [if] it has been predicted or not, that a complete transformation will take place, but they have talked about transformation. I don’t know that part, and I just don’t bother my head as to how many people are getting transformed. But after transformation you must settle down. First of all you should see if you are a peaceful person, if there’s peace in your heart. If you have no peace in your heart then you are not a Sahaja Yogi. If you get excited and if you start shouting at people and all that, it means you are not Sahaj Yogis. You have to have a very, very peaceful temperament, that is very important. Now with that peace what should be there, [is] pure compassion. What you are doing is not for your benefit as such, but because you are compelled by this Force to do good for others, to transform them. This is the greatest good you can do to others, that their brains are put right, they get rid of their diseases, they get rid of their problems. It’s all there. But, the first thing and the most important thing that happens [is] that they get the power to transform others. When you have that power to transform others you should not waste it, you should not use it for yourself. That means the growth is not complete. You must talk about it, you must tell about it, and you must work it out. Wherever it is possible you have to work it out. This is the way we can spread people on a global level, who can get complete transformation. All our problems, whether in India or anywhere, is because of human beings, because they have not been enlightened. If you are enlightened you’ll have no problem of any quarrelling or any fighting and all that. If you are enlightened, then you will think about others as if they are your own; you bother your heads about them. You will not think about yourself anymore. If you are enlightened then [there’s] no question of any violence in your head. Nowadays in the name of religion, in the name of everything, there is so much of violence. This violence can be easily corrected if they all become Sahaj Yogis. Think, if all the people become Sahaj Yogis, how will they quarrel, for what? So religion is there, but above all these religions is the religion of Sahaj Yoga, where you become one. And there all these quarrels of religions will disappear. This is not the only problem we have as human beings, we have some other problems also, very serious. That is, we have a hankering. We are very greedy. We cannot adjust ourselves to any other circumstances. We want to live in complete comfort and this and that. But after this you can sleep anywhere, you can eat anywhere, you need not eat. You become a person who is above all these needs, all these demands, absolutely. Then you don’t worry, you don’t worry. There’s worry for what? Supposing I get lost somewhere and the car is going in a wrong way: all right, I have to go that way, that’s why I am going like that. What is there to feel upset about it? So many things, small, big, happen in your life for which you get upset. But now, with this blessing of Sahasrara, you will be amazed, there is help from Paramchaitanya. And that means a tremendous help because it acts globally, it acts individually, it acts on communities, it acts on nations, because there is a Divine — what we call ‘Divine’ — there is a Divine play going on. And this Divine play plays tremendous beautiful things, by which people start correcting themselves. So, you should never be nervous, you should never be upset, because you have the Divine Power within you, and it will correct. It can correct anyone. I mean, recently we had a case of one boy who was hit by a truck and they said his lungs were smashed. Now, with the lungs smashed, nobody has heard that they become normal. Not only they became normal, but he started breathing normally. And now he is all right. This work is done by Paramchaitanya. You don't have to do anything. Any problem that comes before you, before it really touches you, it’s solved by the Paramchaitanya. But you must have full faith in yourself and in Paramachaitanya and believe that you are a realised-soul. Nobody can harm you. If they try to harm you, for the time being, all right, you may suffer, but also you don’t feel the sufferings and you get out of it. Such a security, such a proper guidance is there. Also you are saved from all kinds of attacks and all kinds of mistakes that you commit. It’s all such a big Computer of Knowledge. He knows, It knows, what you are doing and what you should not do, where you are going and what should not be your way. He knows, It knows, everything, knows everything about you. So then you have to become aware of It. Now this is the stage where I would say that you have to be aware that you are realised-souls, you are different, very unique. You are realised-souls, you are not ordinary people. And that you are protected by this Paramchaitanya. Nothing can change you, nothing can trouble you, nothing can overpower you. Because you are not aware, also, of this Paramchaitanya, that’s why you, a little bit, get worried. And people write to me sometimes, “Mother, something wrong with my daughter, something this thing.” Everything can be corrected by Paramchaitanya, if you know how to leave it to That, if you understand how you are one with that Paramchaitanya, you’re a part and parcel of that. And that Paramchaitanya is looking after you. You don’t have [a] very conscious effort, there’s no need to have very conscious effort. Accept life as it is. As it is, whatever life is there, accept. Don't retaliate, don’t get angry, don’t get upset. Just accept. And you will enjoy the same life which was irritating you! You will see the enjoying part of that, and it will be so beautiful the way you will see that you will get over all your problems, you will get over all your enemies. And a kind of a very fresh, beautiful existence you will have. So now, as you are all Sahaja Yogis, it’s a very great position. With that, if you humble down, humble down, then you’ll be amazed to see that, you are absolutely in contact with this Paramchaitanya; not only that, but you have become Paramchaitanya. With this Paramchaitanya you can do anything. I need not tell you what you can do, because some of you may not believe me. But that’s [what] my own experience is, that, if you are the Paramchaitanya, if you know you are the Paramchaitanya, then it keeps your dignity, it keeps your position, it keeps your world and looks after you. And whatever is just said or desired, you just get it. Your desires also change. Your desires are not for stupid things, but for something that is very noble. Like, you want to transform people, you want to do Sahaj Yoga work. All these desires are fulfilled fully, when you want to do it, you like it and you think of it. It is something, even seeing something: if you see something and you are stunned by that! Immediately Paramchaitanya will take over and you will have no problems, no problems. Because the way we react to all these difficulties and to so-called odds in life becomes a play, just a play. You are amazed! You looked at it and finished! Look at that, and finished! That is how it is the light which goes into the darkness and finishes the darkness. The darkness is finished, and our problems are finished also. So this is what our awareness has to become. Awareness has to become Paramchaitanya. Then you get all the ideas, everything that are Divine. But not only that, but also the help of the Divine, all the solutions of the Divine. It’s something amazing! And everything quietens down, everything settles down, and you are amazed, watching all this, that you are the centre of doing all these things. You are not aware that you are doing, and you are this, that ego thought is missing in you, but you see it’s all happening around you, and then you are amazed how it is happening. The whole lifestyle changes, the whole understanding changes, and you become a great source of happiness, joy and knowledge to others. You don’t have to study anything, you don’t have to know much, but you will know about everything, what is right and what is wrong. And then only you can tell the things with complete authority that, “This is not right!” Like today, we had a discussion on this point about the economic position and the economics of modern times. I said, “It’s all wrong, because it is self-destructive.” It destroys the nations, if not your nation, other nations. Then it also destroys your family life. It destroys your value system. It completely destroys you. So what sort of an economics is this? It’s just a show, just like a balloon: it can burst any moment. I have seen people who are very rich, very this thing, think no end of themselves [then] become bankrupt. And very bankrupt become rich. So it’s [a] kind of a turmoil in which they are jumping, from one shore to another shore. But you are not. You watch that drama. You see all that drama, and with your peace you can see everything, very calmly. It’s not difficult for you to create more people like this. It’s not difficult to transform this world. The time has come, just ripe time. Like when the proper time comes, the blossom time comes, so many flowers become fruits. So, like that, you all have become. Now it is for you to create seeds to spread Sahaja Yoga. You are at that level of awareness now where Paramchaitanya is with you, absolutely part and parcel of you, absolutely with you to give you all necessary help, all necessary prestige, and also the personality. May God bless you all. (Puja starts) Yogi: All the children from five to ten years. Tutti i bambini da cinque a dieci anni. Ganesh Sthuti, Sanskrit page 11. Yogi: Hindi 63. Seven ladies from the hosting countries to come to the puja, please. (Jago Savera) Yogi: Marathi 36. Tujhya Pujani. Yogi: Hindi 67. Vishwa Vandita. (Aarti and Mahamantras) Yogi: Bolo Shri Sahasrara Swamini Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi ki! Yogis: Jai! Shri Mataji: May God bless you. May God bless you. May God bless you.

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Public Program, Toronto canada I bow to all the seekers of the truth. It is very important for us to know what is the truth .instead that we get lost because we are all seekers.we are seeking because we are not satisfied with our life , with life of others ,with the life around ,some or other reasons .I donot know what is the matter. Now some have become the ardent seekers very ardent seekers and they are trying to find out what should they do ?how should they find out the truth .There are also so many people in this world who come down from all over the world to tell you about the truth ,to talk about the truth,Some are not real Most of them are not real atleast [unclear] they are into some sort of business even the religion has become the business if you see every religion is nothing but a business. they all go to make money out of you…………. They all go to make money out of you by saying that they [unclear ]a particular religion but [unclear] find that after following all these religion all your life what did you make what did you get what is the ultimate result of it. Did you get the piece of your mind, did you get what is promised ,you couldn't get it because religions also get deviated the real path of reality now getting into business and making business out of you is not the way you can find the truth you cannot pay for the truth because it exist.It is there .Will be there [unclear] you can try to pay for something else but not for truth. Truth cannot be purchased this is the one thing that I want to tell you at very [unclear] Now what is the truth truth is not this body, this mind, these emotions,these ego, but what are you? You are pure spirit unless and until you become the spirit you cannot realise what you are .What is the reality about yourself .?The whole quality of life whether it is in Eastern or the Western world is all irrelevant they don't know what's happening what are we using all the [unclear] over the value system the reason is we are not in the area of the truth some scientist like Einstein has said that if you go beyond the mind then there is an area called Torsion area and if you can go into that Torsion area then what you get is the cognitive science. So this cognitive science is a science of the beyond of something which you can't conceive through your mind. Not that mind is useless but through mind you cannot achieve it for that you have to go beyond the mind. Now how do we do that how to go beyond the mind that Einstein has not said because he himself was born realise personality so did not know how to explain that area but he told that even this theory of relativity came to him through thisTorsion area. The scientist unclear to say that there is a Torsion area which we should enter into. All of us has that it is not that some people have it some people don't have it. but only thing that how many have reached there unless and until you reach there you can't know the reality. whatever you know is the only book knowledge it doesn't give you any Joy it doesn't give you any piece it doesn't give you any personality it does not give you even any quality of life so one must know that the creator who has created us cannot leave as like that , without worried about its Revolution and he has bought up to this stage of human awareness so we are human beings we have human awareness but what do we have to do after this .After the human awareness we have to reach the state of higher level and of the spirit so what I told you that as Einstein has said that you have to know beyond your mind beyond your human awareness and for that our creator has created within us a possibility. there is a power within us to which I have already told and this power exist in all of you. Whether you are a Canadian, Indian, American ,English anyone whether you are black brown whatever you are you maybe..That means how can you differentiate between human beings they are also the same .By calling you as something you don't become because everyone has got this power in their triangular bone and this power existed and people knew about it even in Greece because they called this bone as a sacred bone. Now the sacred bone triangular bone is within all of us and in certain position that it is facing upwards. Now this Power is there within us whether you are child or you are young or a middle aged or anyone you all have this power .Now the question is what do we do with this power now the question is what do we do with this power this power is just like that now I am talking to you on this mike that you are to be connected ,you are to be connected to the Torsion area and how do you connect through this power which is within you passes through six centres open the sixth sense which is actualization of the baptism those who are Christians has to know that there should be actualization and then you become one with the all pervading power of divine love. So when this happens you start feeling the cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost ,cool Breeze of the Param Chaitanya ,on your fingertips as in the Quran also Mohd Sahib has said that when your resurrection will take place your hands will speak they will tell you what Chakras are there .What was wrong with you and how to feel your own chakras .Means self-knowledge .You know your self- knowledge in your fingertips it is a fact that it has happened to thousands and thousands of people.It is happening to so many of you and I don't know why like in Russia we have such a horrible thing called as Communism. People were so much oppressed , so much tortured and they resurrected back into themselves. There we have thousands and thousands of them I can't have a small program in the hall like that. I have to have a hall there, Stadium or something like that in every place that torture and that suffocation has taken them to the real seeking of the truth, and once they find it there, they are just there,and they grow so fast ,I am amazed that about Russian. Indian i can understand, in India this is the well known fact that every human being has the aim of life to get the self realisation it is absolutely written clearly in all the scriptures. Same about the Christ. He said “know thyself “again and again he said “know thyself” how and that is what happens to you when you become a realize soul this personality which is not expressing itself it's just the superficial personality that you know but inside it is very beautiful personality and that is to be enlightened and this is what happens in Sahaja yoga.Saha means ‘with’ and ja means born with in you . Born with you is a right ,it's the birth right ,that you get your self realisation if you are human being you all should have your self-realization now is the time you get it don't avoid and[unclear] because it is a last judgement if you want to go to False people pay the money and do all kinds of nonsense go ahead. It's your judgement but the real judgement is that you should know yourself you must have the experience of that knowledge if you don't get the experience just because it's customary to do something that you are doing something and if you are not just doing because it's the fact or maybe it's a fashion or maybe you are born to do a particular type of Madness you [unclear] but why waste the time it's within you .It is your own it is there you don't have to do anything.It just works . with this what will we get you may ask the mother because I told you what did you get the first thing you get is the tremendous creativity I have seen somebody playing this difficult thing called Sarod in India people practice for 7-8 years and here somebody practiced three months and get it. how. There are many people that they have seen who have never known an Indian music that is such a difficult thing and takes some difficult Ragas in three to four months time how do they do it ?how are they managing? from where is [unclear] there are many artists from India who have a big name they have achieved a great success after coming to Sahaja yoga so what happens the first thing is your creativity becomes tremendous you start understanding you watch it and see it but the beauty is you start appreciating them. it starts like you become bigr artist yourself and enjoy the other artists. There is no jealousy there is no competition you just enjoy you enjoy each other because it becomes the other dimension in your awareness you become collectively conscious you know what others doing. You know what they want. You feel one with so many thousands of them all over the world weather you go to Russia weather you go to India or you go to China anywhere If there are sahaja yogies they will just go and come and treat them as its own kith and kins It is not possible even our own brother and sister don't behave like that but if you see how the sahajayogie behave and how collective there are how beautiful they are it's very surprising I don't know if this democracy has done any harm to us or has done some problematic thing but in democratic country I find it's very difficult to talk to them of reality like in America you would be amazed I went there first time and I get such a shock . I said look at those people they are going out of a war. [unclear] how could you run after such people who themselves are not there in their own senses they can purchase you they can loot you can you do that with a person who is spiritual but if you become stupid about it if you don't want to see the point then nothing works out you have to have minimum of understanding that this is not the main thing .Main thing is to get to the reality did you know the reality did we know the reality did you know about yourself .Of course it's true that in sahaja yoga so many incurable diseases have been cured .They say it is a miracle, to me it's not .Because all these chakras all these centres are responsible for their physical mental emotional and spiritual [unclear ] .Cancer can be cured of course it can be cured we have cured cancer no doubt but we are not doctors we are not busy with that .What we want that you all could get realisation so you don't get cancer if somebody gets that we can help them because you become collectively conscious. You become so collective -something happens to somebody somewhere the whole world is worried about and they all want to meet them and do something about it. It's not something superficial it's very deep and dear.It is a thing for people who are really genuine and trying to find out the truth.Those who are not genuine for them there are many other shops one can do it but this is not a shop this is a blessing from the divine that you get your self realisation I don't know I was speaking speaking you know my throat will show you get speaking with thosands and thousands of people but speaking is not the way you can get it.Actually it is the Kundalini awakening which is very important now.Because word Kundalini is there that is why people think that it is Indian It's not. I told you that everyone has got this .Why this is called as Kundalini because Kundalini means coil that's why in Sanskrit that is called Kundalini you can call it anything you can call it a coil energy or[ unclear ]but all of you have this energy whatever you may speak , whatever country you may belong to.All of you .When you have not got your realisation what sort of society is needed to raise how are young children are taking to what sort of life what is the quality of your life you are finished in drugs this or that. Elders are finished in diseases and other things .Others are so busy so hard working they have no time for them their family their children so there is so mess in the society .All this mess can be corrected if just you get your self realisation then you will know the position where you stand many people has mentioned in the poetry and poem but what they have said it's the time for there completion. The time has come to fulfill all those promises that were given. None of them [unclear] But whatever they have said the time has come for you to achieve to receive those beautiful promises that were given to you I don't know how long it will go talking to you but today somehow I feel you to ask me some questions because you are all intelligent people have lots of questions there in your mind.If they are sensible you can ask me it would be very nice. Question with Shrimataji -how did you discover ? Ans : Why are you worried about me I don't understand are you a newspaper gentleman I know it I had it from my childhood all right now don't try to know about me know about yourself how did you discovered that you're human being Question with Shrimataji:What is the difference between Rajyoga and sahajayoga Now see big difference between so called Rajyoga and sahajayoga when the Kundalini rises in the real sense these chakras and streaks opens to keep the Kundalini Rise and not to fall back that is the RajYoga within yourself .It happens automatically in Sahaja yoga but today's modern Raj Yoga is that you artificially do it.Now suppose you artificially move the wheel of your car will it move that's how for money making it has. Raj Yoga is within you it just happens nothing you can achieve from this rajyoga you might get headache or maybe you can go to lunatic asylum Question with Shrimataji:What is enlightenment ? once you will get your realisation you will yourself explain what is the enlightenment Enlightenment is not about only spiritual experience but [unclear] it means that what sort of centres you are getting what sort of problems you have and know how to correct it and it's a complete knowledge it's not enlightenment you are moving towards enlightenment but it is not enlightenment it is what you can call lightning within you . Question with Shrimataji:Do we need Guru to get self-realization ?The candle which is not enlightend cannot enlighten other lights .So you need some enlightened soul initially you call it Guru enlightened soul …..your wish …...its question of love . It is so powerful that you can change the world you are your own Guru you master yourself because a light of the spirit you know what is wrong and what is correct nobody has to tell you and that's what you follow.

Public Program, Toronto canada I bow to all the seekers of the truth. It is very important for us to know what is the truth .instead that we get lost because we are all seekers.we are seeking because we are not satisfied with our life , with life of others ,with the life around ,some or other reasons .I donot know what is the matter. Now some have become the ardent seekers very ardent seekers and they are trying to find out what should they do ?how should they find out the truth .There are also so many people in this world who come down from all over the world to tell you about the truth ,to talk about the truth,Some are not real Most of them are not real atleast [unclear] they are into some sort of business even the religion has become the business if you see every religion is nothing but a business. they all go to make money out of you…………. They all go to make money out of you by saying that they [unclear ]a particular religion but [unclear] find that after following all these religion all your life what did you make what did you get what is the ultimate result of it. Did you get the piece of your mind, did you get what is promised ,you couldn't get it because religions also get deviated the real path of reality now getting into business and making business out of you is not the way you can find the truth you cannot pay for the truth because it exist.It is there .Will be there [unclear] you can try to pay for something else but not for truth. Truth cannot be purchased this is the one thing that I want to tell you at very [unclear] Now what is the truth truth is not this body, this mind, these emotions,these ego, but what are you? You are pure spirit unless and until you become the spirit you cannot realise what you are .What is the reality about yourself .?The whole quality of life whether it is in Eastern or the Western world is all irrelevant they don't know what's happening what are we using all the [unclear] over the value system the reason is we are not in the area of the truth some scientist like Einstein has said that if you go beyond the mind then there is an area called Torsion area and if you can go into that Torsion area then what you get is the cognitive science. So this cognitive science is a science of the beyond of something which you can't conceive through your mind. Not that mind is useless but through mind you cannot achieve it for that you have to go beyond the mind. Now how do we do that how to go beyond the mind that Einstein has not said because he himself was born realise personality so did not know how to explain that area but he told that even this theory of relativity came to him through thisTorsion area. The scientist unclear to say that there is a Torsion area which we should enter into. All of us has that it is not that some people have it some people don't have it. but only thing that how many have reached there unless and until you reach there you can't know the reality. whatever you know is the only book knowledge it doesn't give you any Joy it doesn't give you any piece it doesn't give you any personality it does not give you even any quality of life so one must know that the creator who has created us cannot leave as like that , without worried about its Revolution and he has bought up to this stage of human awareness so we are human beings we have human awareness but what do we have to do after this .After the human awareness we have to reach the state of higher level and of the spirit so what I told you that as Einstein has said that you have to know beyond your mind beyond your human awareness and for that our creator has created within us a possibility. there is a power within us to which I have already told and this power exist in all of you. Whether you are a Canadian, Indian, American ,English anyone whether you are black brown whatever you are you maybe..That means how can you differentiate between human beings they are also the same .By calling you as something you don't become because everyone has got this power in their triangular bone and this power existed and people knew about it even in Greece because they called this bone as a sacred bone. Now the sacred bone triangular bone is within all of us and in certain position that it is facing upwards. Now this Power is there within us whether you are child or you are young or a middle aged or anyone you all have this power .Now the question is what do we do with this power now the question is what do we do with this power this power is just like that now I am talking to you on this mike that you are to be connected ,you are to be connected to the Torsion area and how do you connect through this power which is within you passes through six centres open the sixth sense which is actualization of the baptism those who are Christians has to know that there should be actualization and then you become one with the all pervading power of divine love. So when this happens you start feeling the cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost ,cool Breeze of the Param Chaitanya ,on your fingertips as in the Quran also Mohd Sahib has said that when your resurrection will take place your hands will speak they will tell you what Chakras are there .What was wrong with you and how to feel your own chakras .Means self-knowledge .You know your self- knowledge in your fingertips it is a fact that it has happened to thousands and thousands of people.It is happening to so many of you and I don't know why like in Russia we have such a horrible thing called as Communism. People were so much oppressed , so much tortured and they resurrected back into themselves. There we have thousands and thousands of them I can't have a small program in the hall like that. I have to have a hall there, Stadium or something like that in every place that torture and that suffocation has taken them to the real seeking of the truth, and once they find it there, they are just there,and they grow so fast ,I am amazed that about Russian. Indian i can understand, in India this is the well known fact that every human being has the aim of life to get the self realisation it is absolutely written clearly in all the scriptures. Same about the Christ. He said “know thyself “again and again he said “know thyself” how and that is what happens to you when you become a realize soul this personality which is not expressing itself it's just the superficial personality that you know but inside it is very beautiful personality and that is to be enlightened and this is what happens in Sahaja yoga.Saha means ‘with’ and ja means born with in you . Born with you is a right ,it's the birth right ,that you get your self realisation if you are human being you all should have your self-realization now is the time you get it don't avoid and[unclear] because it is a last judgement if you want to go to False people pay the money and do all kinds of nonsense go ahead. It's your judgement but the real judgement is that you should know yourself you must have the experience of that knowledge if you don't get the experience just because it's customary to do something that you are doing something and if you are not just doing because it's the fact or maybe it's a fashion or maybe you are born to do a particular type of Madness you [unclear] but why waste the time it's within you .It is your own it is there you don't have to do anything.It just works . with this what will we get you may ask the mother because I told you what did you get the first thing you get is the tremendous creativity I have seen somebody playing this difficult thing called Sarod in India people practice for 7-8 years and here somebody practiced three months and get it. how. There are many people that they have seen who have never known an Indian music that is such a difficult thing and takes some difficult Ragas in three to four months time how do they do it ?how are they managing? from where is [unclear] there are many artists from India who have a big name they have achieved a great success after coming to Sahaja yoga so what happens the first thing is your creativity becomes tremendous you start understanding you watch it and see it but the beauty is you start appreciating them. it starts like you become bigr artist yourself and enjoy the other artists. There is no jealousy there is no competition you just enjoy you enjoy each other because it becomes the other dimension in your awareness you become collectively conscious you know what others doing. You know what they want. You feel one with so many thousands of them all over the world weather you go to Russia weather you go to India or you go to China anywhere If there are sahaja yogies they will just go and come and treat them as its own kith and kins It is not possible even our own brother and sister don't behave like that but if you see how the sahajayogie behave and how collective there are how beautiful they are it's very surprising I don't know if this democracy has done any harm to us or has done some problematic thing but in democratic country I find it's very difficult to talk to them of reality like in America you would be amazed I went there first time and I get such a shock . I said look at those people they are going out of a war. [unclear] how could you run after such people who themselves are not there in their own senses they can purchase you they can loot you can you do that with a person who is spiritual but if you become stupid about it if you don't want to see the point then nothing works out you have to have minimum of understanding that this is not the main thing .Main thing is to get to the reality did you know the reality did we know the reality did you know about yourself .Of course it's true that in sahaja yoga so many incurable diseases have been cured .They say it is a miracle, to me it's not .Because all these chakras all these centres are responsible for their physical mental emotional and spiritual [unclear ] .Cancer can be cured of course it can be cured we have cured cancer no doubt but we are not doctors we are not busy with that .What we want that you all could get realisation so you don't get cancer if somebody gets that we can help them because you become collectively conscious. You become so collective -something happens to somebody somewhere the whole world is worried about and they all want to meet them and do something about it. It's not something superficial it's very deep and dear.It is a thing for people who are really genuine and trying to find out the truth.Those who are not genuine for them there are many other shops one can do it but this is not a shop this is a blessing from the divine that you get your self realisation I don't know I was speaking speaking you know my throat will show you get speaking with thosands and thousands of people but speaking is not the way you can get it.Actually it is the Kundalini awakening which is very important now.Because word Kundalini is there that is why people think that it is Indian It's not. I told you that everyone has got this .Why this is called as Kundalini because Kundalini means coil that's why in Sanskrit that is called Kundalini you can call it anything you can call it a coil energy or[ unclear ]but all of you have this energy whatever you may speak , whatever country you may belong to.All of you .When you have not got your realisation what sort of society is needed to raise how are young children are taking to what sort of life what is the quality of your life you are finished in drugs this or that. Elders are finished in diseases and other things .Others are so busy so hard working they have no time for them their family their children so there is so mess in the society .All this mess can be corrected if just you get your self realisation then you will know the position where you stand many people has mentioned in the poetry and poem but what they have said it's the time for there completion. The time has come to fulfill all those promises that were given. None of them [unclear] But whatever they have said the time has come for you to achieve to receive those beautiful promises that were given to you I don't know how long it will go talking to you but today somehow I feel you to ask me some questions because you are all intelligent people have lots of questions there in your mind.If they are sensible you can ask me it would be very nice. Question with Shrimataji -how did you discover ? Ans : Why are you worried about me I don't understand are you a newspaper gentleman I know it I had it from my childhood all right now don't try to know about me know about yourself how did you discovered that you're human being Question with Shrimataji:What is the difference between Rajyoga and sahajayoga Now see big difference between so called Rajyoga and sahajayoga when the Kundalini rises in the real sense these chakras and streaks opens to keep the Kundalini Rise and not to fall back that is the RajYoga within yourself .It happens automatically in Sahaja yoga but today's modern Raj Yoga is that you artificially do it.Now suppose you artificially move the wheel of your car will it move that's how for money making it has. Raj Yoga is within you it just happens nothing you can achieve from this rajyoga you might get headache or maybe you can go to lunatic asylum Question with Shrimataji:What is enlightenment ? once you will get your realisation you will yourself explain what is the enlightenment Enlightenment is not about only spiritual experience but [unclear] it means that what sort of centres you are getting what sort of problems you have and know how to correct it and it's a complete knowledge it's not enlightenment you are moving towards enlightenment but it is not enlightenment it is what you can call lightning within you . Question with Shrimataji:Do we need Guru to get self-realization ?The candle which is not enlightend cannot enlighten other lights .So you need some enlightened soul initially you call it Guru enlightened soul …..your wish …...its question of love . It is so powerful that you can change the world you are your own Guru you master yourself because a light of the spirit you know what is wrong and what is correct nobody has to tell you and that's what you follow.

5/26/1999

http://amruta.org/?p=12938

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1999-05 -26 Arrival at Airport Toronto [Yogis waiting for Shri Mataji Shri Mataji arrived. Yogi giving flowers to Shri Mataji.] Shri Mataji: All Canadians are very tall Yogis: Laugh! Shri Mataji: vibrations still good, I have given realization at least 6-7 people inside. Canada has been really so fast, I do not understand. Now also America is improving, I really amazed. And also in America, they accepted Sahaja Yoga.[Shri Mataji speaking Hindi with yogis]Shri Mataji: its running in you, its love, its compassion is running in you, so why not giving to others? Why not know about them? Its improve your quality, why can't you do it? You will be so satisfied. You have heart, the heart is the spirit, you don't have to do anything extra, you already have it. You have to give love, do not love only yourself, because you do not love yourself also. But if you love yourself you love others. That's the most precious thing and the real joy giving to love others, understand others, feel others is the biggest thing. Do not live for yourself, all your miseries will disappear, all your troubles will disappear. I am now 76, still, I am travelling, because I can't live without loving others[Shri Mataji speaking Hindi with yogis.]Shri Mataji: I am just saying one has to be very much growth in your own love, so you do not get angry with others, you do not get annoyed with others, it's no irritation at all.[Shri Mataji going toward her car and leaving the airport. Yogi's farewell to Shri Mataji.]

1999-05 -26 Arrival at Airport Toronto [Yogis waiting for Shri Mataji Shri Mataji arrived. Yogi giving flowers to Shri Mataji.] Shri Mataji: All Canadians are very tall Yogis: Laugh! Shri Mataji: vibrations still good, I have given realization at least 6-7 people inside. Canada has been really so fast, I do not understand. Now also America is improving, I really amazed. And also in America, they accepted Sahaja Yoga.[Shri Mataji speaking Hindi with yogis]Shri Mataji: its running in you, its love, its compassion is running in you, so why not giving to others? Why not know about them? Its improve your quality, why can't you do it? You will be so satisfied. You have heart, the heart is the spirit, you don't have to do anything extra, you already have it. You have to give love, do not love only yourself, because you do not love yourself also. But if you love yourself you love others. That's the most precious thing and the real joy giving to love others, understand others, feel others is the biggest thing. Do not live for yourself, all your miseries will disappear, all your troubles will disappear. I am now 76, still, I am travelling, because I can't live without loving others[Shri Mataji speaking Hindi with yogis.]Shri Mataji: I am just saying one has to be very much growth in your own love, so you do not get angry with others, you do not get annoyed with others, it's no irritation at all.[Shri Mataji going toward her car and leaving the airport. Yogi's farewell to Shri Mataji.]

6/15/1999

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Kundalini is your individual Mother, is reflected in every person wherever you may go

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Public Program in Central Park, New York, USA. 15 June 1999. Starts at 1:03 on videoInformal talk in an Indian restaurant [Laughter] That he realized. You see, it is not that you are doing anything, it’s the Divine that is doing, that is doing all the things and once this detachment comes, you don’t get into funny ideas, you see, and this quarrelling business starts with that.Now we have, you must have heard, that we have Sahaja Yoga working in so many countries. Every year I hear one country is added. Now the thing is, most beautiful thing for Me to see all of them together and I was amazed, they come from all kinds of communities, from all kinds of countries, from all kinds of religions, from everywhere they never fight, never fight. Of course, they pull each other's legs, have lot of fun and all that. And they are always joyous, very happy. Now why is it? What is happening? Now the first and fundamental truth is that all of us, whether you are white, black, brown, yellow, any colour, whatever community, whatever country you may be coming from, all of you have one thing, that is Kundalini, this power within you. It doesn’t differentiate. Only we mentally differentiate like this, like this one is like this, this one is like that and we have different, different groups. Again, that’s our mind which creates- gets into distinctions. But for Kundalini, who is your Mother, individual Mother, is reflected in every person wherever you may go. I mean we have people in very remote places like Benin, you see, the people from Benin you know. And then we have people from Eritrea, imagine, the Minister, the Prime Minister of Eritrea’s Sahaja Yogi. But they are very humble people, they are very humble, and they take to treaty that: "of course we’r going for the peace". They have to have peace. Now how do you get peace within yourselves? That I will explain to you, but frankly the subject is very wide but the best thing is for you to get your Realization. Peace is like this, what happens is that we go on reacting. Now for example I’ve come here now [inaudible] [Mother looks at the furnishings] trying to see from where it has come, which part of India, now whether it is in harmony or not, and all these things, My mind starts working.Then I start thinking how much it will cost if I have to buy it. Now supposing it belongs to Me then I would be much more worried that nobody spoils it, nobody pulls it out, you see it’s like this. So reactions can be of two types, that should I worry about it? Or sometimes you do feel happy. But all the time the mind is active, it is reacting all the time. You cannot witness the whole thing. But what happens, that when Kundalini rises your thoughts which are coming from the future and the past are all there, on your head. And they are bombarding you. But when Kundalini rises she elongates the thoughts and there’s a space created in between. Now this space is the place where we become thoughtless, and once you have become thoughtlessly aware, which Jung has talked about, Jung has talked. This thoughtlessly awareness was stayed, when it happens, you become absolutely peaceful. Because you are in the present, you are not in the past nor in the future, but you are in the present. And when you are in the present, what you feel that peace of a witness: you witness, you see everything and it’s like a picture that slowly comes to you. Your memory becomes just like a photographic memory [inaudible] and you see everything so clearly whenever you want to have. It’s very simple, for small things, for big things, you don’t have to worry about your memory. I’m very old according to the time I was born [Laughter] but My memory is excellent. I mean, I must say that I don’t know how people forget things but I don’t. If I see somebody’s face I’ll definitely remember everything. Maybe names I may little bit get confused because you know what names are like. People give whatever name they feel like, has no meaning, at least in India names have meaning so we can remember. But other names sometimes are so funny, so long, so short, that you don’t know how to remember. But that’s not the thing, the main thing is that you are kept all the time absolutely alert. Alert about everything. Actually, if that alertness comes into us, then we will be alert also about ourselves. Why are we doing this?Say you go to some newspaper. My experiences have not been very good in India they have not been kind to Me at all, but they should see what is their responsibility. Are they responsible? Do they feel that whatever is the truth are they representing? Or are they trying up to make up a story, something bombastic, something sensational, something which is not true. So first thing should be, that we have to think that we will know the truth and we’ll keep the truth, we’ll talk the truth. But for that you don’t have to go to the court with your hands on the Bible, or a Gita, but you have to say yourself on your heart. And it just happens you can’t do anything wrong. Because you see the power of truth is great. It will keep you all the time in so much in very joyous mood. It gives you joy. Joy is singular, it is not like unhappiness and happiness, joy is singular. You are in joy and that joy is of love. Love and affection and compassion, everybody’s heart is full of it. But we don’t open our heart, we are so afraid you know, if I open My heart what will happen, this thing. But it doesn’t mean the perversion. Now, because we have not expressed our true love, it’s getting perverted. Most of your problems come from that perversion. If you could open the heart of the people in the right way it will give you that joy which is described in all the scriptures. I am not against any religion, against anything, but I must tell you the religion has taken a new course. If the religion becomes power orientated, money orientated, then it’s not a religion. It has to be Spirit orientated. I must tell you frankly, if it is not Spirit orientated it’s not a religion, absolutely, it has to be Spirit orientated. Now, in any religion, whatever it is they have, every religion, they have said that you have to know yourself. Everybody has said it and the time has come. This is a special time when people are going to get their Self-Realization.My contribution to all this is only very simple that, I’d tell that they give one Realization to one person, and go on like this, would not be of any help because they’d crucify that person, or kill that person, torture that person. People don’t want to see anybody outstanding you know. So we also they are trying to trouble, but it’s all right, after all they are ignorant, I don’t mind. [Laughter] Now, so this actual understanding of the whole thing should be such that if you rise above your awareness, the awareness itself gets enlightened. You can feel vibrations you can easily say who is a Realized soul, who is not a Realized soul. That’s how I said that William Blake was a Realized soul, Abraham Lincoln was a Realized soul, because you can feel the vibrations. They are dead but still you can feel. You can feel vibrations from so many things that you can feel that this is the place where some great man must have lived, that’s why there are vibrations. It’s not a myth it’s actualization. It just happens you can see the actualization of the baptism you can call it and actually it happens. It’s not just talking, saying this, that, money collection, but it is the wine [blood of Christ] within us which is awakened.All of us have that, so why not get it? We all have it.And then you can’t pay for it. You can’t pay for love can you? How much have you paid God who runs our heart? Nothing. In the same way it just works. It’s a living process and every living process is [spontaneous?]. And it has no distinction between any kind of personality, they have to be just human beings. And there are so many children also nowadays born as Realized souls. I was surprised in Dallas now some Sahaja Yogis have started looking after abused children. I mean this is something I can’t understand, the perversion to the last ! But these children are Realised souls, that’s why they’ve tortured, because they are Realised souls. So they couldn’t bear it so they have tortured. These children are so sweet now, they are always waiting for Sahaja Yogis to come and talk to them. The people said what have you done ? What is so special about you that these children are all the time waiting, asking when are they coming, when are they coming? Just see how much cruelty would do in the name of corrections and things. Actually it’s a sinful act, the way we are disciplining ourselves and disciplining others.Now all these things are going on around us and we see the world, sometimes you feel that this world will be destroyed or what will happen. It’s not going to be destroyed, after all the one who has created knows how to save it also. So it won’t be destroyed but some may be destroying themselves. Actually we destroy ourselves, God will never destroy us, that’s one thing for sure. But if we want to destroy ourselves we have freedom, we can do what we like. Only we human beings have the freedom. We can save ourselves or we can save others. It’s such a tremendous thing but in America somehow or other, I’ve not been very successful so far. So it’s the first time we have such a meeting here and I’ve never met the press anywhere also, in America.But only, in any other place now from, somebody has come from Turkey. Every week they are publishing about Me, in the front. Imagine in Turkey we have 2000 Sahaja Yogis, they are Muslims. So why in America it doesn’t work out? I don’t know. Because there is no sensation in it, that’s of course very true, no sensation of any kind. You don’t jump, you don’t do anything. Just simple happening, where you are sitting you just get it. It’s relaxation, complete relaxed temperament. And all the things that are written in that - whatever they have given you, is absolute truth. There’s nothing that is exaggerated and there are many more things you have to know. But please humble down a little bit and see for yourself that you get it. All right? I don’t want to speak long because they said there are some people who want to ask Me questions. So I would like to spare some time for you to ask Me questions. But the one thing, you see, don’t go the way you go about with other journalism, like asking Me why your hair are black, why your hands are like this, why you wear, I mean all sorts of things. You know I am a married woman. [Laughter]So in a normal way you should ask Me questions. I am not a politician, I have nothing to do with your politics I tell you. This is no politics, I don’t call it. We have to have divine politics. And divine politics is such, now with all these organisations, so called, of Sahaja Yoga there is no organisation. We have no secretariat, we have no officers, we have nothing like this. It just works. We don’t have to do anything because there’s collective consciousness. We are all connected with each other. It just works. You know, you’ll be amazed how things are working out now we are having a programme in one place, Canojaharie they call it. I am just sitting there, I’m doing nothing, but everything is working out. Everything. There was not even a single roof there. Every thing has worked out. People have come all over the world to America. They are so concerned about America because always I said I don’t know what’s wrong with America, Sahaja Yoga, it doesn’t work. You see, I told them don’t go after this guru, he’s not all right, don’t go after that person, they didn’t like it: why should I say such a thing? Now all of those gurus have made a big money big, big money, some of them have died, some have run away, some are in the courts, all this. But they don’t like. But I’m not a newspaper person that I’ll go on praising everybody or criticizing anybody. What I am trying to tell you, the truth is that you’d better find yourself. You’d better know your value. You’d better know that God has made you for a special purpose and these are the special times that they call as Last Judgment.This is the time you have to judge, and you will be judged. You will be judged. If you are in the spiritual life, alright, if you are not, forget it. It’s like that, it’s so simple as that. You have to know yourself and get rid of all your nonsensical ideas, also all these artificial problems. I hope I have been able to talk to you nicely, but as I told you, that it nothing but Agnya [?]. Now, have love and compassion. But it is not mixed up with something perverted. It’s not mixed up with something which is very localised or maybe something like a love affair, no, no, it’s nothing. It is not also any identification. Now I’m an Indian or you are an American or you are something, it makes no difference at all, we are all human beings and that’s what we realise within ourselves, that it’s not true. These are all- God made these lands not to create problems, but to love each other. And this is very important today, as you can see, for the emancipation of the world, for the emancipation of human beings. And to give them love, joy, which is their right! So Sahaja Yoga is: "sahaja" means "saha", born with you. "Saha" is with, "ja" means born. Born with you is this. I should say the right is a very, very, very fundamental right that you get your Realization is "yoga", union with the Divine. This is your right to get it, everybody has this right to get it. And then you will realise what have you got. Before that, you are still on a level which is not subtle. So I would request you to take to this Realization and also ask Me questions. So if you want you can ask Me questions, first to begin with. Question of a first lady: [Inaudible]Sahaja Yogi : She would like to know where is the hospital in India.[Inaudible][Shri Mataji laughs]Shri Mataji: You see what I would say, in a way it is both. [Laughter]So, you see the hospital now we have in India. I started this hospital long, long time back, I think better – [Shri Mataji asks a question in Hindi]Sahaja Yogi answers.Shri Mataji: 'Acha', eight.And you see actually with got a great doctor, high doctor and he’s a Realised soul. He got Realization and I cured his wife, I cured this main doctor by Sahaja Yoga. So he took to it and this hospital, he is running there and we don’t charge for medicine, for treatment, for anything, but for stay. That is only for one bed 300 rupees, 10 dollars for 1 day.[Shri Mataji asks aside] 10 dollars,[Shri Mataji asks aside] 8 dollars I’m sorry. And for the room, the air conditioned, bathroom, but for the room only we charge 1000 rupees, that’s all. But otherwise for the doctors, for the nurses, for the services, for the treatment, we don’t. Because this treatment is not done with medicines, you know, the Indian medicines are so dangerous, you take one medicine God knows what reaction you will get. You go to another doctor, you have to end up picking out of your teeth, eyes, ears everything. So, it’s not like that.It is only we work on the chakras, on the centers that we have shown here. On the centers, what is the center? Every person has different centers problem. Then we see if they’re suffering by over activity or by, we can say, inactivity. There are two types of patients. One are over active and some are possessed by inactivity. So these two type of people actually are there because of the two sympathetic nervous systems. Now of course doctors have started accepting, when I was studying they did not know that the left sympathetic is different and the right is different. But still they don’t know anything about parasympathetic, I must tell you very frankly. Parasympathetic we’ll only know through Sahaja Yoga. It’s very simple, it’s very, very simple. Same first lady: Where is this hospital?Shri Mataji: It is very near Bombay, called as New Bombay. And so many people have been there, have been cured and they have been helped. I don’t keep the list of that but I am really amazed how people are coming in. They find it very cheap, you see, the whole place also. And looked after with love, with compassion, with love, it’s the main thing.Same first lady: My first question was how does one get the Realization?Shri Mataji: That we will try just now, all right, after questions. It’s spontaneous, you don’t have to do anything, very spontaneous. You all look so loving, you all can get it.Any other questions?Yes Madame? Second lady: Why do think that Americans seem to be more resistant to getting their Realization?Sahaja Yogi: Why Americans, you think, are resistant to Realization?Shri Mataji: I think they are very great. [Shri Mataji laughs]I think they think they’re on top of the world already. [Laugter]You have to come to - [Shri Mataji shows Mother Earth] – down.Land up here. [Unsure]It is high, but it’s temperament. Even in India if somebody gets lots of money, he floats in the air. You just can’t talk to that person.Very common, money goes into head, it’s money orientation. Also power goes into head. You see immediately they sit on the horse. All these things, that’s why this head is to be crossed over. Important! Third lady: [Asks a question on what to do about violence and crime] ...So we need a way to show them how to surrender the violence..Sahaja Yogi: The people she works with are people who are suffering from poverty, violence, crime, drugs, so what is the best way to reach them?Shri Mataji: You see for poverty they are ways of working it out. Poverty, there are ways of doing it. And also now, for example, in India I have started a big school for children who failed in the eighth class. To give them vocational training, in India we don’t we have. We have generous people, no doubt, now we don’t need money just now, we are, we are all right. These children are taken from about, say, they’re from fourteen to sixteen years of age, who have failed in life so far. So we teach them. Like we don’t have plumbers in India, here also if you call a plumber you’d better find out with the bank how much will you have. [Laugter] So in the same way we have problems of that and also, see for example, carpentry. Indians used to do all the carpentry with their hands, you see, but because of machinery that trade is gone now. So we have people who have to learn now, how to do it with their machinery, if you give them machinery. So we are going to teach them carpentry, driving, we can’t get drivers there very well. But they are not very highly paid people in any way, but at least they’ll be paid something. And other crafts like that.Then another thing is that we should - like what we are doing in India is to find out what the poor people make. For example, My father was a lawyer and he used to go to a very far fetched village, for a case he was there. And there I found very, very, very poor people. They had no houses, they used to live in the trees, because there were animals and things you see. And also they used to wear only one cloth, ladies would wear two above. Cloth, only cloth they used to cover themselves. And very poor! And that time only, I really felt like crying for them. So now I decided that I’ll start export business, imagine Me doing business. I can’t even count receipts. But I started the business, so called, and the first thing I started was to ask- I asked My brother to go and see in that village what sort of people are there, if they still making the terracotta. Very creative, very creative, very beautiful. He said they are still making. And some of them are Greeks, you know? When Alexander came to our country they stayed back and they are there. And what they are making, they call it bell metal. No one makes this in the whole world that sort of a thing. I said all right, we have exported now to America also, last in America, because America you don’t know what they would like but somebody has dared to ask for it, I said: "All right, I’ll send". So that also we have exported to America and it’s working out well, she said it’s working out very well here. Because poor people are very creative, they are very creative people. And they should not be given alms, it’s a wrong idea. Because if you give them alms, for example we have so many developments coming from these UN and all that, they will go in a well, they will dig a well. All right.Then what happens? So much money inflation comes in they take to drinking, this, that and also that well is not looked after. But make them make a well, let’s see. They should try to make a well themselves, see, working for them, so they’ll look after this well. So that is how we have started the village, we can do it, and the village craft in India is tremendous. But they don’t know how to export, you know. What they are exporting is vans or motorcycles or something like that.You see what we have in the villages is a well-done hand-made. Now here you go anywhere and they say: "this is hand-made". To us what is hand-made? Everything is hand-made only![Laugter]But they say: "this is hand-made", "this is hand-made". First, I used to be shocked, cause hand-made people thought: "they make others buy it".[Unsure] And you know, these hand-made things we have such a trillon, [Unsure] in the poorest of poorest countries you see, like Benin you see, what embroidery! You have to just guide them, tell them what to do. You know, unless and until you have that love for them, you cannot dispel. Also, if they don’t know anything and you tell them: "you make this", they’ll make.Now for your information, most of your things are coming from such developing countries. For example, shirts that you wear, made in USA, are made in Turkey. Then in Tunisia they make very beautiful things which are branded by French, see like that, leather things. So now they are exploiting also, trying to exploit Indian labour also. So exploit the Indian labour and exploit their own people and make money. It’s the trick of the trade is like that. But if you can really get it from these people, poor people what they make. Put them to something which they can do and if you can manage them they’ll they have their self respect.Actually, despite everything I was saying, Indian poor people have very great respect. Very respectful. They won’t give, do anything cheap. Now supposing you buy from them something like this thing: "this is just clay, clay, this is just our Indian soil, why are you buying? "Like that they talk. I said: "No, it is very valuable, you have no idea."So then they will sell it, oherwise they don’t want to sell you they’ll say: "take it." They are starving, they have nothing, they are very wonderful people. But if you torture them and say you’re poor, you’re poor and all the kind, ill-treat them, they can’t even create. Then they take bowls in their hands and beg their alms.Like that, you see also, I felt too much for Indian destitute. Especially they are Muslim, most of them are Muslim women, and for them I’ve started a residence for them. Now they can do a lot of work, I was amazed, how they can stitch beautiful clothes for children, with beautiful embroidery, you know. They have a heart, all of them have a heart, and also they want to do now gardening, gardering, they want to do gardening, they want to create flowers. Flowers are so expensive now and we thought that you can export flowers.So like that, so many things they make, they are so creative. Now here you get, I don’t know what you call that, patchwork, patchwork? Now in India, nobody will wear the patchwork because it’s regarded as something cheapish. Because all these villager women, they make it so beautifully and I saw them selling here, in New York. First lady: [Asks another question about Mother’s opinion on the equality of women in India, and women’s rights].Shri Mataji: Now, you see, our style and culture is different, what I’m saying. The thing is that a woman is regarded- I mean not nowadays of course because it’s different- but most of the women in the villages are regarded as sakshat Lakshmi, means Mother Goddess of wealth. So she is to be respected. All the people will respect, you see, nobody dare insult her. That was our society and it’s still in the villages like that. And the women feel very proud that they are housewives. They are proud because we are housewives, we have our children, we can look after our children, we can cook, we can- they are great cooks also.So you see, what happens, that they know that their area is their household, but they don’t feel suffocated. They don’t feel they are lower down. Like even My husband was here, he’ll tell you about Me. That first thing is I’m a very good housewife, first of all, I know very good cooking, everything. You know to please men you must know how to cook. [Shri Mataji laughs; laughter]Lady: He can’t go and he will stay all the night home [?]Shri Mataji: Yes of course! Is a fact, it’s a fact, it’s a fact. And women should not feel low about it. We are praised so much, you see, I was surprised because one gentleman- My husband you know was the foreign, he was the secretary general of the IMO [Maritime International Organisation] International organisation and all that, very international thing you know, very formal and all that, but all his friends used to come to My house to have chicken made by Me. Can you imagine? Such big, big Johnnys, you know, and they used to come down for that. [Laughter]And I was known all over the world for that, making good chicken. [Laughter] But My husband knows all the list of things that I make very well. So you see it is something, the women must know our own value. I don’t like to work with men all the time fighting, quarrelling, reacting, it’s money stuff. And I love My own house, My own home. I have two daughters and four grandchildren and now two great grandchildren. And we are all very happily living, enjoying each other, because of love. You see, this competition is because of money, because you have the money, men dominate for money. Maybe in India also they might dominate a little bit for money. But women know how to dominate, because they know how to cook. [Laughter]That’s it, women know, must know their own powers. Then they will not write for the men’s powers of what? What are their powers? Stupid, you see [Shri Mataji laughs; laughter] I would hate to have so many bosses, so many this thing, only one boss you have to please him, that’s all. Very simple life. But we should accept our own life, we should be proud of it and that really gives you the family life and everything. It’s the woman who is the preserver of the society. This we don’t realise. Woman is the preserver of the society. If she understands she is the preserver, then you can bring round all the men; all the men. Because she is the one who preserves the family, Now, without the family what will men do? They’ll commit suicides. So you must just pour love in the whole family, the whole atmosphere, how to manage, and you should be very patient and loving and- I mean, I tell you, all My in-laws are at least a hundred in-laws I have, My husband’s family. They will come to see Me, not him. [Laughter]He is sitting here, I am telling you. They will come all the way to see Me, but not him. Because he was a big man, a formal, this, that, and some of them used to just run away if I was not in the house. So for what we should work? What do we get, this money? Money you have, for what?Then the woman now must be slavish people, very slavish, because they have to please the boss, please this thing, they have to dress up funny, they have to look nice, they have to look young and all sorts of things, you know, so many enterprises have started this.But here you don’t care for all these things. If you are a woman in the house, you manage everything like that, and if the husband tries to trouble you, all the family will be after him. [Laughter] Like that, you know. It’s a very safe, it’s very safe and very enjoying and very good.It’s a - all pervading. In the society, also, everywhere. But these days, people are getting so perverted in a way. I’ll tell you one example. One lady she was the boss, she was the wife of a very big boss, you see, from India. So she came, she- they were to come for a dinner. And in the dinner, you know, they keep places for people there with their names, labels, everything. So she was not there, she was missing. She was very smart, very smart. For an Indian she was overly smart, wearing a very short thing and always wearing her purple and all that, high heels like that. [Mother shows height with her hands.] We quite little who are feeling for her (?). But, you know, I was surprised she was not there, everybody was waiting for her. I mean, on this big formal dinner. So I said, “All right, I’ll go there,” then in the waiting room she was sitting there. I said “What are you doing here?” “They made me sit here.”, “They made you sit here? I can’t understand.” So I asked the manager, “Why did you make them sit there?” They said: “We thought she is his secretary, we never thought that’s his wife.” So the dignity of the wife, you see, if you give up, you are no one. One must understand and the women must understand how powerful they are. In India they are called Shakti, they are called as power. She is.But you must know how to handle your husband, to handle your family with you and you have to bear a little bit. Of course you have to be patient, you have to bear a little bit, you must know that they are all not yet matured. You smooth all place [Unsure] But, this struggle that we have here now I find, or in other places, you know, in European places of the women, is absolutely not necessary. We have to change the society.Now in Sahaja yoga people get married. There are international marriages, out of this, 99% marriages are successful. One percent might fail, because we marry a Russian with an American, American to an Indian, so it’s quite a change and quite a different thing. So can you imagine, how these people have become 99% people who are married. In Sahaja Yoga, are wonderful people, and they have very beautiful children. What are they like? This one. [Shri Mataji points to someone in the restaurant]In any other sphere you are working you can ask Me questions.Sahaja Yogi: [speaks in Hindi]Shri Mataji: : [Hindi] Acha. I would like to give you Realization. That’s what they are saying, that you give them Realization and I will.Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi, he says that the food is ready]Shri Mataji: Ach, it’s better idea.He says that tomorrow we are going to have a very big programme. But the hall is small, I must say, it doesn’t matter. It’s such a big city that everything seems to be smaller and smaller. [Laughter]All right, so for that, if you want your Realization, it’s your freedom is respected, you have to ask for it. I cannot force it, you cannot force it. And if you want to go away, you can go away, it’s completely. Because if you have to have ultimate freedom, this freedom has to be respected. And this freedom is that, if you want you can have it, if you don’t want, then don’t have it. They are saying that you all are invited to that program. Where are we having?Sahaja Yogini: In Town Hall. Tomorrow in Town Hall, at 7.30. It will be a wonderful program where you will have your Self-Realization. That’s on 43rd St. I think everyone must know where Town Hall is….”Shri Mataji: But I must tell you one thing. You don’t have to pay, you don’t have to stand on your heads, nothing you have to do. You just sit on your seats, or on the ground, doesn’t matter. That’s the way of that because I told you: "It’s your fundamental right."Sahaja Yogini: I will ask you just in one second to join me in thanking Shri Mataji…Shri Mataji: I hope you ? for all you are all in [Inaudible]

Public Program in Central Park, New York, USA. 15 June 1999. Starts at 1:03 on videoInformal talk in an Indian restaurant [Laughter] That he realized. You see, it is not that you are doing anything, it’s the Divine that is doing, that is doing all the things and once this detachment comes, you don’t get into funny ideas, you see, and this quarrelling business starts with that.Now we have, you must have heard, that we have Sahaja Yoga working in so many countries. Every year I hear one country is added. Now the thing is, most beautiful thing for Me to see all of them together and I was amazed, they come from all kinds of communities, from all kinds of countries, from all kinds of religions, from everywhere they never fight, never fight. Of course, they pull each other's legs, have lot of fun and all that. And they are always joyous, very happy. Now why is it? What is happening? Now the first and fundamental truth is that all of us, whether you are white, black, brown, yellow, any colour, whatever community, whatever country you may be coming from, all of you have one thing, that is Kundalini, this power within you. It doesn’t differentiate. Only we mentally differentiate like this, like this one is like this, this one is like that and we have different, different groups. Again, that’s our mind which creates- gets into distinctions. But for Kundalini, who is your Mother, individual Mother, is reflected in every person wherever you may go. I mean we have people in very remote places like Benin, you see, the people from Benin you know. And then we have people from Eritrea, imagine, the Minister, the Prime Minister of Eritrea’s Sahaja Yogi. But they are very humble people, they are very humble, and they take to treaty that: "of course we’r going for the peace". They have to have peace. Now how do you get peace within yourselves? That I will explain to you, but frankly the subject is very wide but the best thing is for you to get your Realization. Peace is like this, what happens is that we go on reacting. Now for example I’ve come here now [inaudible] [Mother looks at the furnishings] trying to see from where it has come, which part of India, now whether it is in harmony or not, and all these things, My mind starts working.Then I start thinking how much it will cost if I have to buy it. Now supposing it belongs to Me then I would be much more worried that nobody spoils it, nobody pulls it out, you see it’s like this. So reactions can be of two types, that should I worry about it? Or sometimes you do feel happy. But all the time the mind is active, it is reacting all the time. You cannot witness the whole thing. But what happens, that when Kundalini rises your thoughts which are coming from the future and the past are all there, on your head. And they are bombarding you. But when Kundalini rises she elongates the thoughts and there’s a space created in between. Now this space is the place where we become thoughtless, and once you have become thoughtlessly aware, which Jung has talked about, Jung has talked. This thoughtlessly awareness was stayed, when it happens, you become absolutely peaceful. Because you are in the present, you are not in the past nor in the future, but you are in the present. And when you are in the present, what you feel that peace of a witness: you witness, you see everything and it’s like a picture that slowly comes to you. Your memory becomes just like a photographic memory [inaudible] and you see everything so clearly whenever you want to have. It’s very simple, for small things, for big things, you don’t have to worry about your memory. I’m very old according to the time I was born [Laughter] but My memory is excellent. I mean, I must say that I don’t know how people forget things but I don’t. If I see somebody’s face I’ll definitely remember everything. Maybe names I may little bit get confused because you know what names are like. People give whatever name they feel like, has no meaning, at least in India names have meaning so we can remember. But other names sometimes are so funny, so long, so short, that you don’t know how to remember. But that’s not the thing, the main thing is that you are kept all the time absolutely alert. Alert about everything. Actually, if that alertness comes into us, then we will be alert also about ourselves. Why are we doing this?Say you go to some newspaper. My experiences have not been very good in India they have not been kind to Me at all, but they should see what is their responsibility. Are they responsible? Do they feel that whatever is the truth are they representing? Or are they trying up to make up a story, something bombastic, something sensational, something which is not true. So first thing should be, that we have to think that we will know the truth and we’ll keep the truth, we’ll talk the truth. But for that you don’t have to go to the court with your hands on the Bible, or a Gita, but you have to say yourself on your heart. And it just happens you can’t do anything wrong. Because you see the power of truth is great. It will keep you all the time in so much in very joyous mood. It gives you joy. Joy is singular, it is not like unhappiness and happiness, joy is singular. You are in joy and that joy is of love. Love and affection and compassion, everybody’s heart is full of it. But we don’t open our heart, we are so afraid you know, if I open My heart what will happen, this thing. But it doesn’t mean the perversion. Now, because we have not expressed our true love, it’s getting perverted. Most of your problems come from that perversion. If you could open the heart of the people in the right way it will give you that joy which is described in all the scriptures. I am not against any religion, against anything, but I must tell you the religion has taken a new course. If the religion becomes power orientated, money orientated, then it’s not a religion. It has to be Spirit orientated. I must tell you frankly, if it is not Spirit orientated it’s not a religion, absolutely, it has to be Spirit orientated. Now, in any religion, whatever it is they have, every religion, they have said that you have to know yourself. Everybody has said it and the time has come. This is a special time when people are going to get their Self-Realization.My contribution to all this is only very simple that, I’d tell that they give one Realization to one person, and go on like this, would not be of any help because they’d crucify that person, or kill that person, torture that person. People don’t want to see anybody outstanding you know. So we also they are trying to trouble, but it’s all right, after all they are ignorant, I don’t mind. [Laughter] Now, so this actual understanding of the whole thing should be such that if you rise above your awareness, the awareness itself gets enlightened. You can feel vibrations you can easily say who is a Realized soul, who is not a Realized soul. That’s how I said that William Blake was a Realized soul, Abraham Lincoln was a Realized soul, because you can feel the vibrations. They are dead but still you can feel. You can feel vibrations from so many things that you can feel that this is the place where some great man must have lived, that’s why there are vibrations. It’s not a myth it’s actualization. It just happens you can see the actualization of the baptism you can call it and actually it happens. It’s not just talking, saying this, that, money collection, but it is the wine [blood of Christ] within us which is awakened.All of us have that, so why not get it? We all have it.And then you can’t pay for it. You can’t pay for love can you? How much have you paid God who runs our heart? Nothing. In the same way it just works. It’s a living process and every living process is [spontaneous?]. And it has no distinction between any kind of personality, they have to be just human beings. And there are so many children also nowadays born as Realized souls. I was surprised in Dallas now some Sahaja Yogis have started looking after abused children. I mean this is something I can’t understand, the perversion to the last ! But these children are Realised souls, that’s why they’ve tortured, because they are Realised souls. So they couldn’t bear it so they have tortured. These children are so sweet now, they are always waiting for Sahaja Yogis to come and talk to them. The people said what have you done ? What is so special about you that these children are all the time waiting, asking when are they coming, when are they coming? Just see how much cruelty would do in the name of corrections and things. Actually it’s a sinful act, the way we are disciplining ourselves and disciplining others.Now all these things are going on around us and we see the world, sometimes you feel that this world will be destroyed or what will happen. It’s not going to be destroyed, after all the one who has created knows how to save it also. So it won’t be destroyed but some may be destroying themselves. Actually we destroy ourselves, God will never destroy us, that’s one thing for sure. But if we want to destroy ourselves we have freedom, we can do what we like. Only we human beings have the freedom. We can save ourselves or we can save others. It’s such a tremendous thing but in America somehow or other, I’ve not been very successful so far. So it’s the first time we have such a meeting here and I’ve never met the press anywhere also, in America.But only, in any other place now from, somebody has come from Turkey. Every week they are publishing about Me, in the front. Imagine in Turkey we have 2000 Sahaja Yogis, they are Muslims. So why in America it doesn’t work out? I don’t know. Because there is no sensation in it, that’s of course very true, no sensation of any kind. You don’t jump, you don’t do anything. Just simple happening, where you are sitting you just get it. It’s relaxation, complete relaxed temperament. And all the things that are written in that - whatever they have given you, is absolute truth. There’s nothing that is exaggerated and there are many more things you have to know. But please humble down a little bit and see for yourself that you get it. All right? I don’t want to speak long because they said there are some people who want to ask Me questions. So I would like to spare some time for you to ask Me questions. But the one thing, you see, don’t go the way you go about with other journalism, like asking Me why your hair are black, why your hands are like this, why you wear, I mean all sorts of things. You know I am a married woman. [Laughter]So in a normal way you should ask Me questions. I am not a politician, I have nothing to do with your politics I tell you. This is no politics, I don’t call it. We have to have divine politics. And divine politics is such, now with all these organisations, so called, of Sahaja Yoga there is no organisation. We have no secretariat, we have no officers, we have nothing like this. It just works. We don’t have to do anything because there’s collective consciousness. We are all connected with each other. It just works. You know, you’ll be amazed how things are working out now we are having a programme in one place, Canojaharie they call it. I am just sitting there, I’m doing nothing, but everything is working out. Everything. There was not even a single roof there. Every thing has worked out. People have come all over the world to America. They are so concerned about America because always I said I don’t know what’s wrong with America, Sahaja Yoga, it doesn’t work. You see, I told them don’t go after this guru, he’s not all right, don’t go after that person, they didn’t like it: why should I say such a thing? Now all of those gurus have made a big money big, big money, some of them have died, some have run away, some are in the courts, all this. But they don’t like. But I’m not a newspaper person that I’ll go on praising everybody or criticizing anybody. What I am trying to tell you, the truth is that you’d better find yourself. You’d better know your value. You’d better know that God has made you for a special purpose and these are the special times that they call as Last Judgment.This is the time you have to judge, and you will be judged. You will be judged. If you are in the spiritual life, alright, if you are not, forget it. It’s like that, it’s so simple as that. You have to know yourself and get rid of all your nonsensical ideas, also all these artificial problems. I hope I have been able to talk to you nicely, but as I told you, that it nothing but Agnya [?]. Now, have love and compassion. But it is not mixed up with something perverted. It’s not mixed up with something which is very localised or maybe something like a love affair, no, no, it’s nothing. It is not also any identification. Now I’m an Indian or you are an American or you are something, it makes no difference at all, we are all human beings and that’s what we realise within ourselves, that it’s not true. These are all- God made these lands not to create problems, but to love each other. And this is very important today, as you can see, for the emancipation of the world, for the emancipation of human beings. And to give them love, joy, which is their right! So Sahaja Yoga is: "sahaja" means "saha", born with you. "Saha" is with, "ja" means born. Born with you is this. I should say the right is a very, very, very fundamental right that you get your Realization is "yoga", union with the Divine. This is your right to get it, everybody has this right to get it. And then you will realise what have you got. Before that, you are still on a level which is not subtle. So I would request you to take to this Realization and also ask Me questions. So if you want you can ask Me questions, first to begin with. Question of a first lady: [Inaudible]Sahaja Yogi : She would like to know where is the hospital in India.[Inaudible][Shri Mataji laughs]Shri Mataji: You see what I would say, in a way it is both. [Laughter]So, you see the hospital now we have in India. I started this hospital long, long time back, I think better – [Shri Mataji asks a question in Hindi]Sahaja Yogi answers.Shri Mataji: 'Acha', eight.And you see actually with got a great doctor, high doctor and he’s a Realised soul. He got Realization and I cured his wife, I cured this main doctor by Sahaja Yoga. So he took to it and this hospital, he is running there and we don’t charge for medicine, for treatment, for anything, but for stay. That is only for one bed 300 rupees, 10 dollars for 1 day.[Shri Mataji asks aside] 10 dollars,[Shri Mataji asks aside] 8 dollars I’m sorry. And for the room, the air conditioned, bathroom, but for the room only we charge 1000 rupees, that’s all. But otherwise for the doctors, for the nurses, for the services, for the treatment, we don’t. Because this treatment is not done with medicines, you know, the Indian medicines are so dangerous, you take one medicine God knows what reaction you will get. You go to another doctor, you have to end up picking out of your teeth, eyes, ears everything. So, it’s not like that.It is only we work on the chakras, on the centers that we have shown here. On the centers, what is the center? Every person has different centers problem. Then we see if they’re suffering by over activity or by, we can say, inactivity. There are two types of patients. One are over active and some are possessed by inactivity. So these two type of people actually are there because of the two sympathetic nervous systems. Now of course doctors have started accepting, when I was studying they did not know that the left sympathetic is different and the right is different. But still they don’t know anything about parasympathetic, I must tell you very frankly. Parasympathetic we’ll only know through Sahaja Yoga. It’s very simple, it’s very, very simple. Same first lady: Where is this hospital?Shri Mataji: It is very near Bombay, called as New Bombay. And so many people have been there, have been cured and they have been helped. I don’t keep the list of that but I am really amazed how people are coming in. They find it very cheap, you see, the whole place also. And looked after with love, with compassion, with love, it’s the main thing.Same first lady: My first question was how does one get the Realization?Shri Mataji: That we will try just now, all right, after questions. It’s spontaneous, you don’t have to do anything, very spontaneous. You all look so loving, you all can get it.Any other questions?Yes Madame? Second lady: Why do think that Americans seem to be more resistant to getting their Realization?Sahaja Yogi: Why Americans, you think, are resistant to Realization?Shri Mataji: I think they are very great. [Shri Mataji laughs]I think they think they’re on top of the world already. [Laugter]You have to come to - [Shri Mataji shows Mother Earth] – down.Land up here. [Unsure]It is high, but it’s temperament. Even in India if somebody gets lots of money, he floats in the air. You just can’t talk to that person.Very common, money goes into head, it’s money orientation. Also power goes into head. You see immediately they sit on the horse. All these things, that’s why this head is to be crossed over. Important! Third lady: [Asks a question on what to do about violence and crime] ...So we need a way to show them how to surrender the violence..Sahaja Yogi: The people she works with are people who are suffering from poverty, violence, crime, drugs, so what is the best way to reach them?Shri Mataji: You see for poverty they are ways of working it out. Poverty, there are ways of doing it. And also now, for example, in India I have started a big school for children who failed in the eighth class. To give them vocational training, in India we don’t we have. We have generous people, no doubt, now we don’t need money just now, we are, we are all right. These children are taken from about, say, they’re from fourteen to sixteen years of age, who have failed in life so far. So we teach them. Like we don’t have plumbers in India, here also if you call a plumber you’d better find out with the bank how much will you have. [Laugter] So in the same way we have problems of that and also, see for example, carpentry. Indians used to do all the carpentry with their hands, you see, but because of machinery that trade is gone now. So we have people who have to learn now, how to do it with their machinery, if you give them machinery. So we are going to teach them carpentry, driving, we can’t get drivers there very well. But they are not very highly paid people in any way, but at least they’ll be paid something. And other crafts like that.Then another thing is that we should - like what we are doing in India is to find out what the poor people make. For example, My father was a lawyer and he used to go to a very far fetched village, for a case he was there. And there I found very, very, very poor people. They had no houses, they used to live in the trees, because there were animals and things you see. And also they used to wear only one cloth, ladies would wear two above. Cloth, only cloth they used to cover themselves. And very poor! And that time only, I really felt like crying for them. So now I decided that I’ll start export business, imagine Me doing business. I can’t even count receipts. But I started the business, so called, and the first thing I started was to ask- I asked My brother to go and see in that village what sort of people are there, if they still making the terracotta. Very creative, very creative, very beautiful. He said they are still making. And some of them are Greeks, you know? When Alexander came to our country they stayed back and they are there. And what they are making, they call it bell metal. No one makes this in the whole world that sort of a thing. I said all right, we have exported now to America also, last in America, because America you don’t know what they would like but somebody has dared to ask for it, I said: "All right, I’ll send". So that also we have exported to America and it’s working out well, she said it’s working out very well here. Because poor people are very creative, they are very creative people. And they should not be given alms, it’s a wrong idea. Because if you give them alms, for example we have so many developments coming from these UN and all that, they will go in a well, they will dig a well. All right.Then what happens? So much money inflation comes in they take to drinking, this, that and also that well is not looked after. But make them make a well, let’s see. They should try to make a well themselves, see, working for them, so they’ll look after this well. So that is how we have started the village, we can do it, and the village craft in India is tremendous. But they don’t know how to export, you know. What they are exporting is vans or motorcycles or something like that.You see what we have in the villages is a well-done hand-made. Now here you go anywhere and they say: "this is hand-made". To us what is hand-made? Everything is hand-made only![Laugter]But they say: "this is hand-made", "this is hand-made". First, I used to be shocked, cause hand-made people thought: "they make others buy it".[Unsure] And you know, these hand-made things we have such a trillon, [Unsure] in the poorest of poorest countries you see, like Benin you see, what embroidery! You have to just guide them, tell them what to do. You know, unless and until you have that love for them, you cannot dispel. Also, if they don’t know anything and you tell them: "you make this", they’ll make.Now for your information, most of your things are coming from such developing countries. For example, shirts that you wear, made in USA, are made in Turkey. Then in Tunisia they make very beautiful things which are branded by French, see like that, leather things. So now they are exploiting also, trying to exploit Indian labour also. So exploit the Indian labour and exploit their own people and make money. It’s the trick of the trade is like that. But if you can really get it from these people, poor people what they make. Put them to something which they can do and if you can manage them they’ll they have their self respect.Actually, despite everything I was saying, Indian poor people have very great respect. Very respectful. They won’t give, do anything cheap. Now supposing you buy from them something like this thing: "this is just clay, clay, this is just our Indian soil, why are you buying? "Like that they talk. I said: "No, it is very valuable, you have no idea."So then they will sell it, oherwise they don’t want to sell you they’ll say: "take it." They are starving, they have nothing, they are very wonderful people. But if you torture them and say you’re poor, you’re poor and all the kind, ill-treat them, they can’t even create. Then they take bowls in their hands and beg their alms.Like that, you see also, I felt too much for Indian destitute. Especially they are Muslim, most of them are Muslim women, and for them I’ve started a residence for them. Now they can do a lot of work, I was amazed, how they can stitch beautiful clothes for children, with beautiful embroidery, you know. They have a heart, all of them have a heart, and also they want to do now gardening, gardering, they want to do gardening, they want to create flowers. Flowers are so expensive now and we thought that you can export flowers.So like that, so many things they make, they are so creative. Now here you get, I don’t know what you call that, patchwork, patchwork? Now in India, nobody will wear the patchwork because it’s regarded as something cheapish. Because all these villager women, they make it so beautifully and I saw them selling here, in New York. First lady: [Asks another question about Mother’s opinion on the equality of women in India, and women’s rights].Shri Mataji: Now, you see, our style and culture is different, what I’m saying. The thing is that a woman is regarded- I mean not nowadays of course because it’s different- but most of the women in the villages are regarded as sakshat Lakshmi, means Mother Goddess of wealth. So she is to be respected. All the people will respect, you see, nobody dare insult her. That was our society and it’s still in the villages like that. And the women feel very proud that they are housewives. They are proud because we are housewives, we have our children, we can look after our children, we can cook, we can- they are great cooks also.So you see, what happens, that they know that their area is their household, but they don’t feel suffocated. They don’t feel they are lower down. Like even My husband was here, he’ll tell you about Me. That first thing is I’m a very good housewife, first of all, I know very good cooking, everything. You know to please men you must know how to cook. [Shri Mataji laughs; laughter]Lady: He can’t go and he will stay all the night home [?]Shri Mataji: Yes of course! Is a fact, it’s a fact, it’s a fact. And women should not feel low about it. We are praised so much, you see, I was surprised because one gentleman- My husband you know was the foreign, he was the secretary general of the IMO [Maritime International Organisation] International organisation and all that, very international thing you know, very formal and all that, but all his friends used to come to My house to have chicken made by Me. Can you imagine? Such big, big Johnnys, you know, and they used to come down for that. [Laughter]And I was known all over the world for that, making good chicken. [Laughter] But My husband knows all the list of things that I make very well. So you see it is something, the women must know our own value. I don’t like to work with men all the time fighting, quarrelling, reacting, it’s money stuff. And I love My own house, My own home. I have two daughters and four grandchildren and now two great grandchildren. And we are all very happily living, enjoying each other, because of love. You see, this competition is because of money, because you have the money, men dominate for money. Maybe in India also they might dominate a little bit for money. But women know how to dominate, because they know how to cook. [Laughter]That’s it, women know, must know their own powers. Then they will not write for the men’s powers of what? What are their powers? Stupid, you see [Shri Mataji laughs; laughter] I would hate to have so many bosses, so many this thing, only one boss you have to please him, that’s all. Very simple life. But we should accept our own life, we should be proud of it and that really gives you the family life and everything. It’s the woman who is the preserver of the society. This we don’t realise. Woman is the preserver of the society. If she understands she is the preserver, then you can bring round all the men; all the men. Because she is the one who preserves the family, Now, without the family what will men do? They’ll commit suicides. So you must just pour love in the whole family, the whole atmosphere, how to manage, and you should be very patient and loving and- I mean, I tell you, all My in-laws are at least a hundred in-laws I have, My husband’s family. They will come to see Me, not him. [Laughter]He is sitting here, I am telling you. They will come all the way to see Me, but not him. Because he was a big man, a formal, this, that, and some of them used to just run away if I was not in the house. So for what we should work? What do we get, this money? Money you have, for what?Then the woman now must be slavish people, very slavish, because they have to please the boss, please this thing, they have to dress up funny, they have to look nice, they have to look young and all sorts of things, you know, so many enterprises have started this.But here you don’t care for all these things. If you are a woman in the house, you manage everything like that, and if the husband tries to trouble you, all the family will be after him. [Laughter] Like that, you know. It’s a very safe, it’s very safe and very enjoying and very good.It’s a - all pervading. In the society, also, everywhere. But these days, people are getting so perverted in a way. I’ll tell you one example. One lady she was the boss, she was the wife of a very big boss, you see, from India. So she came, she- they were to come for a dinner. And in the dinner, you know, they keep places for people there with their names, labels, everything. So she was not there, she was missing. She was very smart, very smart. For an Indian she was overly smart, wearing a very short thing and always wearing her purple and all that, high heels like that. [Mother shows height with her hands.] We quite little who are feeling for her (?). But, you know, I was surprised she was not there, everybody was waiting for her. I mean, on this big formal dinner. So I said, “All right, I’ll go there,” then in the waiting room she was sitting there. I said “What are you doing here?” “They made me sit here.”, “They made you sit here? I can’t understand.” So I asked the manager, “Why did you make them sit there?” They said: “We thought she is his secretary, we never thought that’s his wife.” So the dignity of the wife, you see, if you give up, you are no one. One must understand and the women must understand how powerful they are. In India they are called Shakti, they are called as power. She is.But you must know how to handle your husband, to handle your family with you and you have to bear a little bit. Of course you have to be patient, you have to bear a little bit, you must know that they are all not yet matured. You smooth all place [Unsure] But, this struggle that we have here now I find, or in other places, you know, in European places of the women, is absolutely not necessary. We have to change the society.Now in Sahaja yoga people get married. There are international marriages, out of this, 99% marriages are successful. One percent might fail, because we marry a Russian with an American, American to an Indian, so it’s quite a change and quite a different thing. So can you imagine, how these people have become 99% people who are married. In Sahaja Yoga, are wonderful people, and they have very beautiful children. What are they like? This one. [Shri Mataji points to someone in the restaurant]In any other sphere you are working you can ask Me questions.Sahaja Yogi: [speaks in Hindi]Shri Mataji: : [Hindi] Acha. I would like to give you Realization. That’s what they are saying, that you give them Realization and I will.Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi, he says that the food is ready]Shri Mataji: Ach, it’s better idea.He says that tomorrow we are going to have a very big programme. But the hall is small, I must say, it doesn’t matter. It’s such a big city that everything seems to be smaller and smaller. [Laughter]All right, so for that, if you want your Realization, it’s your freedom is respected, you have to ask for it. I cannot force it, you cannot force it. And if you want to go away, you can go away, it’s completely. Because if you have to have ultimate freedom, this freedom has to be respected. And this freedom is that, if you want you can have it, if you don’t want, then don’t have it. They are saying that you all are invited to that program. Where are we having?Sahaja Yogini: In Town Hall. Tomorrow in Town Hall, at 7.30. It will be a wonderful program where you will have your Self-Realization. That’s on 43rd St. I think everyone must know where Town Hall is….”Shri Mataji: But I must tell you one thing. You don’t have to pay, you don’t have to stand on your heads, nothing you have to do. You just sit on your seats, or on the ground, doesn’t matter. That’s the way of that because I told you: "It’s your fundamental right."Sahaja Yogini: I will ask you just in one second to join me in thanking Shri Mataji…Shri Mataji: I hope you ? for all you are all in [Inaudible]

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Public Program, Follow Up to VIP Conference. New York (USA), 16 June 1999. I bow to all the seekers of truth. There is so much seeking, people are trying to seek the truth. Perhaps they don't know, what does that mean. It is unknown, that particular aim, but you know that there's something is missing in life. Why are we in trouble? Why all these problems? After all, our Creator has created us, and why are we faced with all kinds of turmoil , troubles, violence? And there's no peace. There's no peace. It's impossible to understand sometimes as a human being, why are we on this earth? That is what one has to find out. Why are we on this earth and what have we got out of this human life? What have we achieved out of this life, which is much higher than any other creatures? We run helter and skelter, try to find out the solution, or sometimes the answer, but it seems it's beyond human awareness to know the answer. The answer is within yourself. You have to know the answer only through self-knowledge. First of all you don't know who you are, what you are, you have no idea about yourself. So, first one has to know about oneself. As everybody has said, "Know Thyself". Saying that doesn't help. How do we know ourselves? How can we go inside, how can we fathom it out? What is the way, what is the method? Nobody has so far been able to answer how you can really take your attention inside. To see what are you, how you are made, what is the subtle system working inside. The only way that is suggested, in all the scriptures, that you have to get your self-knowledge, through self-realization. Now people talk of self-realization also, they have big organizations of self-realization, but talking about it is just talk, talk, talk. Something has to happen, definitely. Definitely you have to have the experience. You have to feel yourself, but that's not done. Because the seeking is so earnest and genuine, we get lost. I must say many seekers are lost, even in America. More in America I should say. And those who worked it out, I don't know wherever they may be. The way they have really finished those people who were seekers is I think, is a very cruel thing to do. But, it was their business, and they have done it. Sahaja Yoga, "Saha", "Saha" means with, "Ja" means born, born with you is the right. Everybody has this fundamental, very fundamental right to get this yoga, means the union with the Divine. All of you have this fundamental right. You may not be aware of it, you may not be knowing it, but that's a fact, and you can't pay for it. That's one thing we should realize. That it is a living process, say, we have become human beings, what did we pay? What did we do? We just became. To become the higher personality what do we have to do? The problem is, we don't understand that you cannot pay for your evolution, which is a living process. How much do we give to this Mother Earth for creating such beautiful flowers? Different types of flowers. What do we do, do we stand on our heads or anything? She gives because that is Her nature, to give, She's made like that. In the same way you are made, as they have told you here, with all these centers. These centers are there and they exist in every human being. Now the greatest point is that this power, which we call as Kundalini, which resides in the triangular bone, of sacrum, is in every human being. It's something very surprising. I mean every human being has a heart, every human being has eyes, nose, everything. But this power, which is a spiritual power, exists in every person. Whether you are black, white, brown, or also any religion you follow or whatever you may do, it exists. We cannot differentiate human beings. On a spiritual level, we'll understand that we cannot differentiate. It's a myth, to differentiate. But for that people will fight, fighting is not the way. For everything they start fighting. Even for fundamental right they'll fight. What do you get, only the money that's all. That's not the way. You have to know, know what is your being, for that you don't have to fight. This fighting business starts when some sort of a law comes in, everybody thinks we have a fundamental right and we must fight for it. Actually, the struggle of the people who are seeking the truth is so much [NEEDED? or IN?] these modern times, it was never so. And as a result of that longing I don't know how people are making business out of it. How they are utilizing and befooling everyone and making a big money for themselves. But, what to say, that we have to use our discretion. We must understand it's a living process of evolution. For which, you cannot force [EVEN or ANYONE?]. You cannot force. Now you understand a living process, if you have a seed you sprout it as soon you put it in the Mother Earth with a little water. Can you force it to be growing? You cannot. It's a living process. That means there is some energy that manifests it. That energy has been described in all the religions, you may call it as "Ruh", in Sanskrit call it "Paramachaitanya". Also in the Bible it's called as the "cool breeze of the Holy Ghost", which is much more precise I think. Have you felt that cool breeze any time? No? That is what you have to experience first. Please understand. All other experiences, some people say, "I feel I have become a tree", some people say, "I think I'm flying in the air", some people say, "I become a bird". You are not going to go down in your evolution but you're going to rise. This is a simple thing we should understand. You are going to rise above this human awareness, to a higher awareness. If you realize that, it is a very simple thing to achieve in these modern times. These are the special times, meant for your ascent. Perhaps you are not aware. We get very much upset the way things are going on. It's all for everybody to be aware that there's something has to happen, something great has to happen, something special has to happen to human beings, that they rise above into a new awareness, into a new personality of self-realized souls. Now, this is when I'm telling you this, it's very easy to understand that within us is this power. In the triangular bone, which is sacrum, that means perhaps the Greeks knew it is a sacred bone, called as sacrum, now from this bone rises the Kundalini. It's a very simple thing to understand, that if God Almighty has created you, He must have made some arrangements for your future evolution. He cannot just allow you to destroy yourself like this. He cannot. So then we come to the point, what happens? What will happen? The first thing I told you is that you start feeling the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost on your finger tips. This experience you have, first time you feel, first time you feel the All-pervading power of Divine Love. Again I say Love, very important to understand this, and this Divine Love is such a great power, it does all these things. Imagine, to have [PEONIES?] separately, [LARKSPUR ?] separately, growing into the same soil. This whole growth, how does it take place? This power does everything, and this power surrounds you, surrounds you, it's there. Only thing, you have to feel it for the first time. And that feeling should come to you, that's an experience by which you will know what is inside you, what centers are out of order, and which one are to be corrected. This is, we can say, part of the self-knowledge. And then you will get the knowledge how you correct yourself, how you become perfect, how you enjoy life, how you become absolutely peaceful personality. I have said it's Divine Love, and love is knowledge, and knowledge is love. If you love somebody, you know everything about that person. Even at a human level, but at the spiritual level, you know so many things that you are amazed at yourself and at the knowledge that you have. As I said yesterday, Einstein talked about it, and Einstein told that there is an area called torsion area above our mind, we have to cross this mind. This mind stops, but if you can cross this mind you can get into that area which is torsion area. And in that torsion area, once you establish yourself, you get ideas which are absolute truth, which scientists can approve it, anybody can prove it, there is nothing just absurd or something that is being just bombastic. You're amazed, how you come to know so many things, these are all potentials within you. It works out in different ways, for example, health wise you improve, because it is physical, mentally you improve, emotionally you are all right, and especially spiritually. Now how? Because all these centers that you have seen are responsible for our physical and mental being, also our spiritual being within ourselves, in a subtle way. So once they are corrected, when they are nourished, when they are enlightened, you see the effect of that. It's very beautiful instrument within us. It doesn't trouble you, because She's your mother. Kundalini is your individual mother, she knows everything about you. She has recorded everything, I would say, like a tape-recorder you know, she knows your past, she knows your aspirations, she knows your problems, your mistakes, everything she knows. But she's very anxious to give you your second birth, extremely anxious, and how lovingly she ascends. It's very remarkable. She doesn't trouble you, she doesn't give any pain to you just smoothly the ascent takes place. Very beautifully she rises, nourishes your centers, integrates them, and connects you to this All-pervading power of Divine Love. What a mother I should say, to do such sublime things for her son, to look after her son, to give her [DID SHRI MATAJI MEAN HIM?] this new life, a new dimension in his whole enterprises, for his whole life that is so complicated. But it becomes, you'll be amazed, it becomes absolutely perfect. Absolutely perfect. All the saints have said that, I'm the only Person Who's saying it's not that, but if there was one saint, all the people got after that saint. If there was one Christ, they got after Him, they crucified Him. Anybody who talked of truth had suffered. Socrates was given poison. So you have seen the history only, all such things were happening. Because they were singled out, they were single people. But now, thousands can get their self-realization, thousands can become saints, it's such a collective power. It's such a great association which is so subtle and so much one. This is the love which is collective. This collective love we have never felt. We have never known this collective love. At the slightest pretext a brother will fight another brother, the father will fight the mother, all kinds of things we go on. But, once you get collectively connected, you become like drops in the ocean, but actually become the ocean. It's really not the poetry I'm telling you, it's reality I'm talking to you. You then know the reality, so far we do not know the reality. By reading books you wouldn't know, by paying money to people and going to various organizations and... you would not know. You have to know yourself which is within you, this power which awakens you and connects you to this All-pervading power. Now, this All-pervading power thinks, organizes, balances, looks after you, looks after your family, it looks after kith and kin, looks after the whole atmosphere. Above all, it loves. It is the power of love I'm talking about. That's the way, once you become empowered by that power of love and compassion I'm sure one day you'll realize your potentiality, how great you are, you're no less than any great saint or any Sufi. You are just the great knower of the true knowledge, not of absurd knowledges, whatever knowledge we have from the books. Sometimes how are you sure that it is truth? Unless and until you have the power, this Divine power, which you use and practice and find out for yourself truthfully, you cannot believe in something which is just told to you, why should you? I would say you shouldn't believe in Me also, why should you believe Me? This belief is very dangerous sometime, when we start taking to something that is sensational or we are, by paying money, we feel we have paid. Now we have paid money to go to heaven. All kinds of funny ideas we have within us I don't know how. And we try to pacify ourselves and think oh no, no, "I've got everything". The other day I met one lady, [SHE...del] she is American, and she was dressed up like an Indian and the way we dress up and the way [SHE...del] we live, she said, "I admire Indian culture." I said, "That's all right, but what do you admire?" "Because it's very peace giving, it is very family oriented." But I think is that the end of life? Is that what you are here? There are thousands of Indians, are they all satisfied people? Then it came to her head that what she has been doing, like she said, "I've given up this, I've given up that, [I'VE...del]". I said, "That's not the way." What actually is to happen is that you achieve that self mastery. And in that mastery you get all the knowledge that you want to have. Apart from that, it's not an education, it's not like making you into PhDs, MAs, MADs[DOES SHRI MATAJI MEAN MDs?], nothing. But spontaneously, because it's all within you, all this knowledge is within you. So, it all becomes visible, absolutely is flowing in you, you can see clearly that what knowledge, what knowledge is coming, from where it is coming, and what love and compassion I have, for everyone. How you can solve the problem of love that is on the worldly level. You cannot. It has its limitations, its problems. But Divine love solves your problems, problems of your friends, your family and the whole world. Today as it is, you can see that humanity is in a doldrum, it has no direction. But after getting realization you will be amazed that you a become part and parcel of such a powerful power. That power of love, which is so engrossing, so joy-giving, so beautiful, and you get rid of all your greed and lust and all such enemies that we have. You just get rid of it. How? How do you get rid of it? Because you rise at a level where these things cannot touch you. These things that make you miserable do not touch you. But I don't say that you give up your family, you give up your friends, you give up your relationships. No, you are there, but even being there you are aloof and you know. You see the whole thing as a drama, as a drama. Like, you are going through the traffic, now you are worried. Supposing somehow you go onto the heights and from there you see the traffic, you are not worried. You are looking at it as a drama, as a witness. This exactly happens to you. And then you see the problems which you can solve. You become so capable about it, but not with harshness, not with cruelty, but complete compassion and love. Which acts beautifully, beautifully it acts. You become such a source of love and affection. But that love and affection you cannot understand unless and until there is the flow of this Divine power within. Once it starts flowing you'll be amazed at yourself and at others who will see that power and say, "oh my God. What is this, I never knew I was this." But you are, you are that. That is what you are seeking, and that is what you have to have. It's your right as I say, a fundamental right which you should have. As it is, I've given so many lectures, one after another, and there are so many books they have published, there are many people who have gained so much. But lecturing doesn't help, you have to have your self-realization. So today, we are going to try that. Before that, if you have any questions you can ask Me. Question: People have said that it's very interesting to know and can manifest the purpose for your soul. Are you saying there are individual purposes, a separate special way to move towards the divine purpose for us? [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES QUESTION IN HINDI THAT INDIVIDUALLY IS THE PURPOSE OF SOUL SEPARATE OR COLLECTIVELY IS THE PURPOSE SEPARATE?] Shri Mataji: Collective is the purpose of your soul. You have to become collective, but it's not the collective, artificial one, but like your hands are collective with the whole body. If there's a pain here the whole body will feel it. But who is the other? You can feel everyone within yourself. And that is what happens to you. So the purpose is that you become the whole, and completely engulf into the whole. All right? Q: Excuse me, what is the connection if any of Sahaja Yoga and Reiki or are they parallel with one another? Shri Mataji: I don't want to criticize anything, only thing you should see, all these things, what have you gained, bas. First question, what have you gained by doing anything? Have you got self-realization? Have you got the knowledge of the Divine? Have you felt the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Just like that. As a Mother I would say what did you get out of it? There are so many in the market, so many. I would ask you this question. Child, what did you get? There's no end to such things. Q: Once you become self-realized how do you maintain it? Shri Mataji: I used to think that once you get self-realization you are self realized you see. But it's not so, I must face the facts as it is. Once you get your realization, of course you do feel all the time the cool breeze and all that. But there are problems on your centers, on your chakras, which you can feel on your fingertips. You can see yourself, I said self-knowledge, so you can see yourself what problems you have, you can feel the problems on yourself. Immediately you say "All right, this is the problem." And that problem you want to correct yourself because you see yourself. I'm surprised sometimes people come and tell Me, "Mother, my Agnya is very bad, please, please correct it." That means "Mother, I've very egoistical." Normally nobody would say I'm egoistical will they? Nobody. But once they get self-realization they see the problem, they love themselves, they see themselves in that love, they say that why not I get myself corrected. Then of course it has to be worked out a little bit, like even if the seed sprouts, it has to grow. It doesn't take much time. Within one month's time most of the people become masters. They can give realization, they can tell them, anybody. You need not be very well educated, nothing, I've seen in the villages, people work it out so fast. So I can't say [EXAC...del] how much time it will take but I've seen people becoming masters within one month's time. And you don't have to pay throughout. It's very important to understand. Q: Someone once said to spread the word of God using our thoughts and our actions. I just want to know what is thought about that statement. [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES: SHE'S SAYING THERE'S A STATEMENT SOMEBODY MADE, SOMEBODY MADE A STATEMENT SOMETIME BACK THAT YOU SHOULD SPREAD THE WORD OF GOD THROUGH YOUR THOUGHTS AND THROUGH YOUR ACTIONS. WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT STATEMENT?] Shri Mataji: First you should get connected to God. If you are not connected to God, whatever you are doing in the name of God may not be. First point is we should be connected. Supposing this instrument is here, and if it is not connected it has no meaning. In the same way our God's work has no meaning because we are not yet connected. First get connected to His power. Q: Once you get self-realization you know yourself, but who is going to correct the injustice in the world? Who is going to become the leader? Who will change the world where there is injustice, where there is discrimination, where there is hatred? If you are saying forget about the hatred, who is going to come forward? If I become self-realized and then forget the hatred then who's going to come forward and change the world where there's injustice, where there's a crime, where there's a harassment? Shri Mataji: Ah, correct, that's the worry I have. This hatred and all this comes through ignorance. We have ignorance, and once you start getting into this great ocean of love, it starts just disappearing from you. To begin with, and from others also who have got realization. Now they say that Sahaja Yoga is working in seventy-two countries and we have seminars in India sometimes and sometimes in Italy where the people from all these countries come, I have never seen them criticizing each other. Of course they have great fun, they enjoy, but never seen, complaining, or doing anything wrong to each other. Because now they have become all one. It's the last judgment, this is the time of last judgment. If you want to remain as you are, you'll remain, nobody can force you. But, if you want to rise to that level, you'll be amazed, you'll have friends all over the world. Not ordinary friends, but real, real friends. So, just to get rid of this hatred and all nonsense what do we have to do? Think this hatred comes from where? It comes from human beings. So, we have to transform them. If they are transformed, things will be all right. Q: Is there a healing energy that will come of the meditation tonight? Shri Mataji: Yes. First of all one must know, what is this energy is. You must understand, and it heals people, no doubt, it does heal. First it will heal you and then it will heal others also. No doubt about it. It does. But first you must know it. You must know how to do it. It would be like any doctor who has not even done his MBBS or anything and trying to do some job, it would be like that. So first I would say, you should establish. Those who are established Sahaja Yogis first of all get very good health but they can help others, they can heal others. Definitely, that is nothing, that is just a wee part of this energy. Q: Most saints spoke of self-realization coming with the lifetime of practicing the education and commitment. Why is it that Sahaja Yoga, with Sahaja Yoga you can come to it so fast? Shri Mataji: Why, because the need is so much. It's the need of the Divine. Divine now is fed up with human beings and, it wants to have a very short thing. You see, formerly, to go to even to New York was very difficult. I don't know how many years Colombus took to come to America. But today, you can just come in. So I would say it's a jet age and the Kundalini has also become like that. Q: Does the Kundalini Yoga that you teach has anything to do with Tantra Yoga? Shri Mataji: You see, the name is Kundalini Yoga but it has nothing to do with Kundalini I must tell you. So, Sahaja Yoga and Kundalini Yoga is the same if you see the meaning of it. But in actual I've seen this Kundalini Yoga business is terrible. Because people have suffered so much. So it's something very different, I don't know what they do in the name of Kundalini Yoga. Q: With all the traveling do you miss your family? Shri Mataji: No. [SHRI MATAJI LAUGS] My family is very sensible. And I travel, they also travel with Me, My family all of them are here now, in America. But My family is very sensible and they realize, they have realized that this is such a great work I'm doing. So they support Me, they help Me in every way. They are very supportive. And they like it and they enjoy it, enjoy all the people who have got realization. There's a family, has the same ideas, or we can say the same feeling, for the world and they are very happy about it. Q: Have any of your grandchildren or children had the same insight or born with the same insight as you? Shri Mataji: Yes, you see, I have also great-grandchildren. And I'm surprised that they are all born realized. They are born realized, that's very surprising. And the family is so united, so helpful and My great-grandchildren also have the vibrations, they understand. I mean its remarkable how the Divine has been kind to Me, to give such a family. I have never neglected My family, never, but they understand that My work is very important and they also enjoy My work very much. They also feel the vibrations, they also have got realization. Q: I'm not able to hear how to lose body consciousness. [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES: SHE CAN'T GET OUT OF HER BODY CONSCIOUSNESS] Shri Mataji: Now all these words have absolutely has no meaning. Body consciousness this thing, that thing. You see it is said that you should not be conscious of your body. You should be conscious of your body as a human being, there's nothing wrong. But once you get your realization, you become conscious of your subtle body, which is within you, so you can easily get it. But you don't lose the consciousness of your body, that's not so. These are all funny things they are doing. I was telling you that you fly in the air and all that, it's not. It's absolutely simple that you become consciously aware within yourself of your own powers. And which you use, not for cruelties or for making money, but for love. I mean it is something [CLAPPING] it is something that happens to you, like I would say a flower, see it's just a bud, maybe it's not even a bud, but then it becomes a flower. And you see your fragrance and you are amazed at yourself. So all these things that you have to give up your body consciousness, this consciousness, is not necessary at all. [YOU HAD...del] You don't have to give up anything. Wherever you are, whatever you are, in that only you get the light, the enlightenment as they call it. Q: [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES QUESTION: She's saying that in Native American tradition in the evolutionary system the human beings are higher compare to animal consciousness, you know and other forms of...?] Shri Mataji: You see Americans read too much, that's all. (LAUGHTER). All their beliefs come from some reading, I don't know from where they get all these ideas. And to neutralize them is very difficult on a mental level. But if you get your realization you suddenly discover that this was all nonsense. You said it's correct that Americans have this idea, those ideas, but these ideas are not reality. Have you felt the reality? First get to the reality, then you will see. In these words I don't know what people read. I mean this is nothing, I came long time back before here,, I ran away. I said, "Impossible." Their brains are already filled with so many books I don't know how to talk to them. And after nine years I appeared on your soil, now they are changing. Because they are realizing this is all kind of a money-making going on with the books. Thank God, it's coming up now. It's better. Q: Do you believe that the Kundalini is the same life-force energy that the Chinese called Chi, that this energy is part of us, part of the world that we can access in this way and also through things like Chi-Gong and Tai-Chi, is it the same force? [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES: Is kundalini the same force that exists all around us as the Chinese call Chi?] Shri Mataji: Ya, ya. It's true. But you see, it is, it has something to do with that, and that is what is our ego and super-ego. The Chinese what they have written, it's correct. But Chinese also don't know who is Lao-Tse, can you imagine? Lao-Tse is the man who talked about this thing, He's the one who told them about Kundalini and they don't know who is Lao-Tse. Especially in America, I don't know what sort of Chinese live here. It's such a great source of knowledge, and what they have said is a perfect thing. But everything gets integrated in Sahaja Yoga. All the knowledge, all the scriptures, everything gets [INTE...]. Absolutely integrated because out of light you see the truth in all of them. There is truth in everything, there is truth in every religion. But religion now has become money-oriented, or also power-oriented, so it's gone off. But actually if you go to the roots of it, it is all the same. For example take the case of Kosovo. Now there these Muslims wanted to have a separate state. It's not necessary, why do they want to have a separate state? You see everywhere where they were trying separate state, even in our country, they all are suffering. It seems even in the same state they could have done it. All right, they said it. But one thing one should understand, that in democracy, how can you have a state based on religion? You cannot, despite that they wanted to have. Now what did they get? Did they get their separate state? They became refugees, poor things starving, for two years they cannot go back to their houses and homes. Because there was no discretion. If you want to help them, best thing is to give realization to everyone. Then all Muslims, all Christians, all Hindus, all of them become Sahaja Yogis. They respect each other. They have to become Sahaja Yogis. No use becoming Christian, Hindus, Muslims, because that means fighting and in Italy we had a little discussion and they said that, "We don't want to have one global religion." We have a global religion because innately we are religious. If you know what that innate religion is then you will become global. But they don't want, because they want to fight. If there is one religion global, we all are there, respecting all the religions and all the incarnations and all the principles of religion, supposing, then how would you fight? On what basis will you fight? This is the problem, we have to go beyond these limitations which are created. We can say created by human beings only. Human beings are good at spoiling everything I feel that way. You see, if you go in a forest it's so clean, so nice, all the birds are there, all the animals are there, the lions are there, tigers are there. You may not find anything stinking, but you send one man there the whole place will be stinking (LAUGHTER). That is what we have done to religion also. don't know how many bifurcations we have of religions, how can you have? There's one God, how can there be so many religions? And just fighting in the name of religion is stupidity, because they don't know. If there's innate religion within you, the innate, which is so much encompassing the whole world. Now see Sufis are Muslims, what they write? They right nothing but Sahaja Yoga. What Christ wrote was Sahaja Yoga, what Mohammed Sahib wrote was Sahaja Yoga. They didn't write all these nonsensical things that people are doing. But they don't read even Koran, you'd be surprised. They don't even read Bible in proper way, or some people just go on reading words, words, words, words. How can you get into it? You must read within the lines. Yet they don't do, and then they start fighting. It's so absurd, the whole thing is, that next generation will not believe in any one of these organizations based on religion, I can tell you. But they might take to something also very bad. So the best thing is to get to the roots of it and find out. So many things are said to explain, according to times also, but how many people really know the roots of religion? They are all one, coming from the same tree, there's nothing to fight. Have you ever seen one branch of the tree fighting with another? It's as absurd as that, to Me I can't understand. It's not possible. For us to fight with each other, for what are we fighting? We are part and parcel of one whole. How can we fight, it's very unnatural, which is very dangerous also. As I said, a tree, on a tree there are so many leaves and they are all different. You won't find another leaf repeating itself. But they never fight with each other do they? Why should we, the human beings fight, in the name of God? They make money in the name of God. They fight in the name of God. They do all kinds of things in the name of God, now what do you say what sort of a God it is? How much we have brought glory to the name of God? All right? So we have to know that innate religion within us, which is in everyone. All of us have that innate religion, we may call it by any name. It's a pure, global religion we can call it. Which is within all of us, it's a fact, I'm telling you a fact. Otherwise you start fighting for this, fighting for that, then what will happen? That's what I said this is the last judgment, and this last judgment is really going to make the difference between the people who have got self-realization and who haven't got it. Last judgment we are not going to put on the balance to find out who is thinner and who is fatter, no. It is what have you got within yourself. What light you have got within yourself and you must have proper understanding that your value of your human life is very great. It is not something frivolous, cheapish, it's very great and you can help the whole world to emancipate. All right?(CLAPPING) Q: [??] Shri Mataji: You will get your self-realization don't worry, for you it will happen. Look at all the things that are there because you haven't got your self-realization. All right? Please make yourself comfortable. I never say you become vegetarians, I never say that. I never say you [DON'T...del] give up your smoking, drinking, nothing. If I say that, half of the people will go away. I just say, "All right you come and sit down, you get your self-realization then tell Me." Shri Mataji: What's there? Q: [??] [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES: She is welcoming you. She's saying that when in collective, the kundalini moves but when she is alone...Sorry can you complete that?...it doesn't...] Shri Mataji: You should know you are never alone when alone. Absolutely, it's just, you just enjoy the loneliness also. Sometimes I'm left alone then I'm quite happy also you know. No questions, nothing, no problem. Sometimes I enjoy Myself you see. When you know what you are you really enjoy. I have seen people who have never written a word of poetry, after getting self-realization they become great poets. Some musicians, they were no good have become great musicians. Some people who never spoke a word, they have become great orators, so all this happens to you. And when you are alone, you get the ideas from the torsion area. Very important to be alone, so don't feel bad that you are alone. Here you are in connection with God, you're never alone. And you get all your ideas from the torsion area, if you note it down you'll be amazed at yourself. All right? May God Bless you. [ HINDI. SAHAJA YOGI MENTIONS REALIZATION AS QUESTIONS ARE OVER] Shri Mataji: So could we have self-realization? AUDIENCE: Yes, yes.[CLAPPING] As I've told you that it cannot be forced. You have to ask for it. It cannot be forced on you. You have to desire it because kundalini is the source of pure desire. So it cannot be forced. If you want it only then it will work out. But first of all, you must know that you are a human being and you must respect yourself. You must have love for yourself, it's not selfishness but respect that you are a human being and here you have come to get your self-realization. That's something very special. There are so many people in New York but you are special that have come for your self-realization. If you have only this feeling within yourself, without any force it will work out, I'm sure. Now, you don't have to do anything, but if you could take out your shoes it will be better because this Mother Earth helps us. I hope you don't mind taking out shoes. That will definitely help, because your connection with the Mother Earth is very important. You will then realize how important is this Mother Earth, how she helps us in our spiritual life. So far we have never known it's important. So, those who do not want self-realization have to leave the hall, they should not disturb other people. If they want to have they are welcome, very much and they can get it. It will hardly take ten minutes. Self-realization will take hardly ten minutes, not more then that. Because you people seem to be very aware, it's not the same as I'd seen, say, about twenty years back. You are very aware and I'm sure all of you will get it in no time. Now, only thing you have to do is to put both your hands towards Myself and both the feet apart from each other. Why and how, that you may know later on. Why. These two hands represent your two sympathetic nervous systems. Just put little higher, little higher. Now one thing is very important. That this center [POINTS TO AGNYA] is very constricted and to open this center you have to forgive everyone. Now you might say that it's very difficult to forgive, but the argument is whether you forgive or you don't forgive, you don't do anything. You just don't do. But if you don't forgive then you torture yourself, not the other fellow. So please just try to forgive. Forgive everyone, just say that. In My presence you say, "Mother, I forgive everyone in the world." Then second thing is that you have to forgive yourself also. Because if you feel guilty, no use feeling guilty you know, because it gives you pain here[ POINTS TO LEFT VISHUDDHI] and this center catches very badly. And you might get spondylitis with that or you might get also angina. So why feel guilty? I mean, whatever has happened has happened ,finished now, today, at this present moment. Because we have to be in the present. So forgive yourself. And people get, you know, entangled into this guilt from such, such small, small thing that I'm surprised at it. There's nothing to feel guilty. As I said you must have respect. After all, we are human beings, if you have made mistakes, it's all right. Now don't go on playing on that, just forgive yourself and forgive others, that's all you will need. Just say that. Now, put your hands up like this, towards Me. Now, put your right hand towards Me and bend your head and see if there's a cool or hot breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area. You can put your hand little away, little away from your head, not on top. And see, you can move your hand and see for yourself if there's a cool or a hot breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area. This is the actualization of baptism. Just see for yourself. This is your own power. Now, please put your left hand toward Me. Put down your head and see with your right hand if there's a cool or a hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area, which was the soft bone when you were a child. Now, this is hot, because you've not forgiven, either to yourself or to others, that's why it is hot, just see for yourself. You can raise your hand up and down , on the sides, and see for yourself. Now put both the hands towards Me and just try not to think. Don't think. That's the state, is the first state we have to achieve. Now just try to feel, if you feel any cool breeze on your finger tips or on your palm or [ON...del] from the fontanel bone area on top of your head. Just try to feel if you are feeling it, it's an experience as I told you. It is not that I have to certify, it is you have to certify. Please forgive, forgive everyone, forgive yourself, that's very important. Now, now raise your hands towards the sky and push back your head. Now you can ask any one of these three questions, any one of these questions, three times. For example you can say, "Mother," you can call Me Mother or Shri Mataji, "is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost?" Or, "Mother, is this the Paramachaitanya?" Or, "Mother, is this the All-Pervading Power of Divine love?" Ask anyone of these questions, three times. You can push back your head little bit. Now, take down your hands please. Those who have felt cool or hot breeze in their fingertips, on their palm or out of the fontanel bone area, please raise your hands. May God Bless you all. That is New York! May God bless you. I could feel the cool breeze coming from you to Me. Can you imagine this New York, it's a wonderful place now. But now, you have to grow. I must tell you, you have to grow. You'll feel very nice, on top of the world now, I know that you'll feel, but you have to grow. For that, we have programs, follow-up programs. So please try to come to those follow-up programs, because then you will grow and then you will realize. If you do not take to it little seriously, it won't work out and you'll be lost again. Like [SOME...del] Christ has said, that some seeds were sprouted and were thrown on the roadside. It's like that. So, you have to respect yourself, respect your self-realization and please try to come to our follow-up programs. I don't know where they have it, they will tell you just now where they will, please be seated for one minute only. One minute and write it down, it's important that you must know everything about it and you should become masters. Every one of you can give self-realization to at least thousand people. [SAHAJA YOGI ANNOUNCES THE FOLLOW UP INFORMATION] [SAHAJA YOGIS TAKE SHRI MATAJI'S PERMISION TO SING JOGAWA] Shri Mataji: Ah, this is a song. I must tell you this poem was written in the 16th century by a very great poet called Namadeva. But people didn't understand what it was about and it says that "Oh Mother, give me the Yoga, "Jogawa"" and he says, "I'm prepared now, I've given up this, I've given up that" means "I've given up anger, I've given up lust, I've given up greed, all this I've given up and now You raise my Kundalini" that is "Ambe", that You raise it and he shows with his hands like this [SHRI MATAJI BRINGS HER HANDS UP] that "You should [AH...del], Oh Mother give me this self-realization. It was said 16th century all our villages used to sing but they didn't know. When these people went [SHRI MATAJI POINTS TO THE SAHAJA YOGIS BHAJAN GROUP] to Kolhapur, there they met people who were singing this song, they got it from there, the whole notation and they have learnt it. See how clever they have become otherwise very difficult this Indian music is but how they have mastered it, I can't believe it. Now here we have people from all over the world especially from America and also from European countries, mostly, I don't think there's any Indian, ah there is some. [BHAJAN] [SHRI MATAJI DOES NAMASTE TO THE AUDIENCE AFTER BHAJAN IS OVER] Shri Mataji: Thank you very much.

Public Program, Follow Up to VIP Conference. New York (USA), 16 June 1999. I bow to all the seekers of truth. There is so much seeking, people are trying to seek the truth. Perhaps they don't know, what does that mean. It is unknown, that particular aim, but you know that there's something is missing in life. Why are we in trouble? Why all these problems? After all, our Creator has created us, and why are we faced with all kinds of turmoil , troubles, violence? And there's no peace. There's no peace. It's impossible to understand sometimes as a human being, why are we on this earth? That is what one has to find out. Why are we on this earth and what have we got out of this human life? What have we achieved out of this life, which is much higher than any other creatures? We run helter and skelter, try to find out the solution, or sometimes the answer, but it seems it's beyond human awareness to know the answer. The answer is within yourself. You have to know the answer only through self-knowledge. First of all you don't know who you are, what you are, you have no idea about yourself. So, first one has to know about oneself. As everybody has said, "Know Thyself". Saying that doesn't help. How do we know ourselves? How can we go inside, how can we fathom it out? What is the way, what is the method? Nobody has so far been able to answer how you can really take your attention inside. To see what are you, how you are made, what is the subtle system working inside. The only way that is suggested, in all the scriptures, that you have to get your self-knowledge, through self-realization. Now people talk of self-realization also, they have big organizations of self-realization, but talking about it is just talk, talk, talk. Something has to happen, definitely. Definitely you have to have the experience. You have to feel yourself, but that's not done. Because the seeking is so earnest and genuine, we get lost. I must say many seekers are lost, even in America. More in America I should say. And those who worked it out, I don't know wherever they may be. The way they have really finished those people who were seekers is I think, is a very cruel thing to do. But, it was their business, and they have done it. Sahaja Yoga, "Saha", "Saha" means with, "Ja" means born, born with you is the right. Everybody has this fundamental, very fundamental right to get this yoga, means the union with the Divine. All of you have this fundamental right. You may not be aware of it, you may not be knowing it, but that's a fact, and you can't pay for it. That's one thing we should realize. That it is a living process, say, we have become human beings, what did we pay? What did we do? We just became. To become the higher personality what do we have to do? The problem is, we don't understand that you cannot pay for your evolution, which is a living process. How much do we give to this Mother Earth for creating such beautiful flowers? Different types of flowers. What do we do, do we stand on our heads or anything? She gives because that is Her nature, to give, She's made like that. In the same way you are made, as they have told you here, with all these centers. These centers are there and they exist in every human being. Now the greatest point is that this power, which we call as Kundalini, which resides in the triangular bone, of sacrum, is in every human being. It's something very surprising. I mean every human being has a heart, every human being has eyes, nose, everything. But this power, which is a spiritual power, exists in every person. Whether you are black, white, brown, or also any religion you follow or whatever you may do, it exists. We cannot differentiate human beings. On a spiritual level, we'll understand that we cannot differentiate. It's a myth, to differentiate. But for that people will fight, fighting is not the way. For everything they start fighting. Even for fundamental right they'll fight. What do you get, only the money that's all. That's not the way. You have to know, know what is your being, for that you don't have to fight. This fighting business starts when some sort of a law comes in, everybody thinks we have a fundamental right and we must fight for it. Actually, the struggle of the people who are seeking the truth is so much [NEEDED? or IN?] these modern times, it was never so. And as a result of that longing I don't know how people are making business out of it. How they are utilizing and befooling everyone and making a big money for themselves. But, what to say, that we have to use our discretion. We must understand it's a living process of evolution. For which, you cannot force [EVEN or ANYONE?]. You cannot force. Now you understand a living process, if you have a seed you sprout it as soon you put it in the Mother Earth with a little water. Can you force it to be growing? You cannot. It's a living process. That means there is some energy that manifests it. That energy has been described in all the religions, you may call it as "Ruh", in Sanskrit call it "Paramachaitanya". Also in the Bible it's called as the "cool breeze of the Holy Ghost", which is much more precise I think. Have you felt that cool breeze any time? No? That is what you have to experience first. Please understand. All other experiences, some people say, "I feel I have become a tree", some people say, "I think I'm flying in the air", some people say, "I become a bird". You are not going to go down in your evolution but you're going to rise. This is a simple thing we should understand. You are going to rise above this human awareness, to a higher awareness. If you realize that, it is a very simple thing to achieve in these modern times. These are the special times, meant for your ascent. Perhaps you are not aware. We get very much upset the way things are going on. It's all for everybody to be aware that there's something has to happen, something great has to happen, something special has to happen to human beings, that they rise above into a new awareness, into a new personality of self-realized souls. Now, this is when I'm telling you this, it's very easy to understand that within us is this power. In the triangular bone, which is sacrum, that means perhaps the Greeks knew it is a sacred bone, called as sacrum, now from this bone rises the Kundalini. It's a very simple thing to understand, that if God Almighty has created you, He must have made some arrangements for your future evolution. He cannot just allow you to destroy yourself like this. He cannot. So then we come to the point, what happens? What will happen? The first thing I told you is that you start feeling the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost on your finger tips. This experience you have, first time you feel, first time you feel the All-pervading power of Divine Love. Again I say Love, very important to understand this, and this Divine Love is such a great power, it does all these things. Imagine, to have [PEONIES?] separately, [LARKSPUR ?] separately, growing into the same soil. This whole growth, how does it take place? This power does everything, and this power surrounds you, surrounds you, it's there. Only thing, you have to feel it for the first time. And that feeling should come to you, that's an experience by which you will know what is inside you, what centers are out of order, and which one are to be corrected. This is, we can say, part of the self-knowledge. And then you will get the knowledge how you correct yourself, how you become perfect, how you enjoy life, how you become absolutely peaceful personality. I have said it's Divine Love, and love is knowledge, and knowledge is love. If you love somebody, you know everything about that person. Even at a human level, but at the spiritual level, you know so many things that you are amazed at yourself and at the knowledge that you have. As I said yesterday, Einstein talked about it, and Einstein told that there is an area called torsion area above our mind, we have to cross this mind. This mind stops, but if you can cross this mind you can get into that area which is torsion area. And in that torsion area, once you establish yourself, you get ideas which are absolute truth, which scientists can approve it, anybody can prove it, there is nothing just absurd or something that is being just bombastic. You're amazed, how you come to know so many things, these are all potentials within you. It works out in different ways, for example, health wise you improve, because it is physical, mentally you improve, emotionally you are all right, and especially spiritually. Now how? Because all these centers that you have seen are responsible for our physical and mental being, also our spiritual being within ourselves, in a subtle way. So once they are corrected, when they are nourished, when they are enlightened, you see the effect of that. It's very beautiful instrument within us. It doesn't trouble you, because She's your mother. Kundalini is your individual mother, she knows everything about you. She has recorded everything, I would say, like a tape-recorder you know, she knows your past, she knows your aspirations, she knows your problems, your mistakes, everything she knows. But she's very anxious to give you your second birth, extremely anxious, and how lovingly she ascends. It's very remarkable. She doesn't trouble you, she doesn't give any pain to you just smoothly the ascent takes place. Very beautifully she rises, nourishes your centers, integrates them, and connects you to this All-pervading power of Divine Love. What a mother I should say, to do such sublime things for her son, to look after her son, to give her [DID SHRI MATAJI MEAN HIM?] this new life, a new dimension in his whole enterprises, for his whole life that is so complicated. But it becomes, you'll be amazed, it becomes absolutely perfect. Absolutely perfect. All the saints have said that, I'm the only Person Who's saying it's not that, but if there was one saint, all the people got after that saint. If there was one Christ, they got after Him, they crucified Him. Anybody who talked of truth had suffered. Socrates was given poison. So you have seen the history only, all such things were happening. Because they were singled out, they were single people. But now, thousands can get their self-realization, thousands can become saints, it's such a collective power. It's such a great association which is so subtle and so much one. This is the love which is collective. This collective love we have never felt. We have never known this collective love. At the slightest pretext a brother will fight another brother, the father will fight the mother, all kinds of things we go on. But, once you get collectively connected, you become like drops in the ocean, but actually become the ocean. It's really not the poetry I'm telling you, it's reality I'm talking to you. You then know the reality, so far we do not know the reality. By reading books you wouldn't know, by paying money to people and going to various organizations and... you would not know. You have to know yourself which is within you, this power which awakens you and connects you to this All-pervading power. Now, this All-pervading power thinks, organizes, balances, looks after you, looks after your family, it looks after kith and kin, looks after the whole atmosphere. Above all, it loves. It is the power of love I'm talking about. That's the way, once you become empowered by that power of love and compassion I'm sure one day you'll realize your potentiality, how great you are, you're no less than any great saint or any Sufi. You are just the great knower of the true knowledge, not of absurd knowledges, whatever knowledge we have from the books. Sometimes how are you sure that it is truth? Unless and until you have the power, this Divine power, which you use and practice and find out for yourself truthfully, you cannot believe in something which is just told to you, why should you? I would say you shouldn't believe in Me also, why should you believe Me? This belief is very dangerous sometime, when we start taking to something that is sensational or we are, by paying money, we feel we have paid. Now we have paid money to go to heaven. All kinds of funny ideas we have within us I don't know how. And we try to pacify ourselves and think oh no, no, "I've got everything". The other day I met one lady, [SHE...del] she is American, and she was dressed up like an Indian and the way we dress up and the way [SHE...del] we live, she said, "I admire Indian culture." I said, "That's all right, but what do you admire?" "Because it's very peace giving, it is very family oriented." But I think is that the end of life? Is that what you are here? There are thousands of Indians, are they all satisfied people? Then it came to her head that what she has been doing, like she said, "I've given up this, I've given up that, [I'VE...del]". I said, "That's not the way." What actually is to happen is that you achieve that self mastery. And in that mastery you get all the knowledge that you want to have. Apart from that, it's not an education, it's not like making you into PhDs, MAs, MADs[DOES SHRI MATAJI MEAN MDs?], nothing. But spontaneously, because it's all within you, all this knowledge is within you. So, it all becomes visible, absolutely is flowing in you, you can see clearly that what knowledge, what knowledge is coming, from where it is coming, and what love and compassion I have, for everyone. How you can solve the problem of love that is on the worldly level. You cannot. It has its limitations, its problems. But Divine love solves your problems, problems of your friends, your family and the whole world. Today as it is, you can see that humanity is in a doldrum, it has no direction. But after getting realization you will be amazed that you a become part and parcel of such a powerful power. That power of love, which is so engrossing, so joy-giving, so beautiful, and you get rid of all your greed and lust and all such enemies that we have. You just get rid of it. How? How do you get rid of it? Because you rise at a level where these things cannot touch you. These things that make you miserable do not touch you. But I don't say that you give up your family, you give up your friends, you give up your relationships. No, you are there, but even being there you are aloof and you know. You see the whole thing as a drama, as a drama. Like, you are going through the traffic, now you are worried. Supposing somehow you go onto the heights and from there you see the traffic, you are not worried. You are looking at it as a drama, as a witness. This exactly happens to you. And then you see the problems which you can solve. You become so capable about it, but not with harshness, not with cruelty, but complete compassion and love. Which acts beautifully, beautifully it acts. You become such a source of love and affection. But that love and affection you cannot understand unless and until there is the flow of this Divine power within. Once it starts flowing you'll be amazed at yourself and at others who will see that power and say, "oh my God. What is this, I never knew I was this." But you are, you are that. That is what you are seeking, and that is what you have to have. It's your right as I say, a fundamental right which you should have. As it is, I've given so many lectures, one after another, and there are so many books they have published, there are many people who have gained so much. But lecturing doesn't help, you have to have your self-realization. So today, we are going to try that. Before that, if you have any questions you can ask Me. Question: People have said that it's very interesting to know and can manifest the purpose for your soul. Are you saying there are individual purposes, a separate special way to move towards the divine purpose for us? [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES QUESTION IN HINDI THAT INDIVIDUALLY IS THE PURPOSE OF SOUL SEPARATE OR COLLECTIVELY IS THE PURPOSE SEPARATE?] Shri Mataji: Collective is the purpose of your soul. You have to become collective, but it's not the collective, artificial one, but like your hands are collective with the whole body. If there's a pain here the whole body will feel it. But who is the other? You can feel everyone within yourself. And that is what happens to you. So the purpose is that you become the whole, and completely engulf into the whole. All right? Q: Excuse me, what is the connection if any of Sahaja Yoga and Reiki or are they parallel with one another? Shri Mataji: I don't want to criticize anything, only thing you should see, all these things, what have you gained, bas. First question, what have you gained by doing anything? Have you got self-realization? Have you got the knowledge of the Divine? Have you felt the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Just like that. As a Mother I would say what did you get out of it? There are so many in the market, so many. I would ask you this question. Child, what did you get? There's no end to such things. Q: Once you become self-realized how do you maintain it? Shri Mataji: I used to think that once you get self-realization you are self realized you see. But it's not so, I must face the facts as it is. Once you get your realization, of course you do feel all the time the cool breeze and all that. But there are problems on your centers, on your chakras, which you can feel on your fingertips. You can see yourself, I said self-knowledge, so you can see yourself what problems you have, you can feel the problems on yourself. Immediately you say "All right, this is the problem." And that problem you want to correct yourself because you see yourself. I'm surprised sometimes people come and tell Me, "Mother, my Agnya is very bad, please, please correct it." That means "Mother, I've very egoistical." Normally nobody would say I'm egoistical will they? Nobody. But once they get self-realization they see the problem, they love themselves, they see themselves in that love, they say that why not I get myself corrected. Then of course it has to be worked out a little bit, like even if the seed sprouts, it has to grow. It doesn't take much time. Within one month's time most of the people become masters. They can give realization, they can tell them, anybody. You need not be very well educated, nothing, I've seen in the villages, people work it out so fast. So I can't say [EXAC...del] how much time it will take but I've seen people becoming masters within one month's time. And you don't have to pay throughout. It's very important to understand. Q: Someone once said to spread the word of God using our thoughts and our actions. I just want to know what is thought about that statement. [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES: SHE'S SAYING THERE'S A STATEMENT SOMEBODY MADE, SOMEBODY MADE A STATEMENT SOMETIME BACK THAT YOU SHOULD SPREAD THE WORD OF GOD THROUGH YOUR THOUGHTS AND THROUGH YOUR ACTIONS. WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT STATEMENT?] Shri Mataji: First you should get connected to God. If you are not connected to God, whatever you are doing in the name of God may not be. First point is we should be connected. Supposing this instrument is here, and if it is not connected it has no meaning. In the same way our God's work has no meaning because we are not yet connected. First get connected to His power. Q: Once you get self-realization you know yourself, but who is going to correct the injustice in the world? Who is going to become the leader? Who will change the world where there is injustice, where there is discrimination, where there is hatred? If you are saying forget about the hatred, who is going to come forward? If I become self-realized and then forget the hatred then who's going to come forward and change the world where there's injustice, where there's a crime, where there's a harassment? Shri Mataji: Ah, correct, that's the worry I have. This hatred and all this comes through ignorance. We have ignorance, and once you start getting into this great ocean of love, it starts just disappearing from you. To begin with, and from others also who have got realization. Now they say that Sahaja Yoga is working in seventy-two countries and we have seminars in India sometimes and sometimes in Italy where the people from all these countries come, I have never seen them criticizing each other. Of course they have great fun, they enjoy, but never seen, complaining, or doing anything wrong to each other. Because now they have become all one. It's the last judgment, this is the time of last judgment. If you want to remain as you are, you'll remain, nobody can force you. But, if you want to rise to that level, you'll be amazed, you'll have friends all over the world. Not ordinary friends, but real, real friends. So, just to get rid of this hatred and all nonsense what do we have to do? Think this hatred comes from where? It comes from human beings. So, we have to transform them. If they are transformed, things will be all right. Q: Is there a healing energy that will come of the meditation tonight? Shri Mataji: Yes. First of all one must know, what is this energy is. You must understand, and it heals people, no doubt, it does heal. First it will heal you and then it will heal others also. No doubt about it. It does. But first you must know it. You must know how to do it. It would be like any doctor who has not even done his MBBS or anything and trying to do some job, it would be like that. So first I would say, you should establish. Those who are established Sahaja Yogis first of all get very good health but they can help others, they can heal others. Definitely, that is nothing, that is just a wee part of this energy. Q: Most saints spoke of self-realization coming with the lifetime of practicing the education and commitment. Why is it that Sahaja Yoga, with Sahaja Yoga you can come to it so fast? Shri Mataji: Why, because the need is so much. It's the need of the Divine. Divine now is fed up with human beings and, it wants to have a very short thing. You see, formerly, to go to even to New York was very difficult. I don't know how many years Colombus took to come to America. But today, you can just come in. So I would say it's a jet age and the Kundalini has also become like that. Q: Does the Kundalini Yoga that you teach has anything to do with Tantra Yoga? Shri Mataji: You see, the name is Kundalini Yoga but it has nothing to do with Kundalini I must tell you. So, Sahaja Yoga and Kundalini Yoga is the same if you see the meaning of it. But in actual I've seen this Kundalini Yoga business is terrible. Because people have suffered so much. So it's something very different, I don't know what they do in the name of Kundalini Yoga. Q: With all the traveling do you miss your family? Shri Mataji: No. [SHRI MATAJI LAUGS] My family is very sensible. And I travel, they also travel with Me, My family all of them are here now, in America. But My family is very sensible and they realize, they have realized that this is such a great work I'm doing. So they support Me, they help Me in every way. They are very supportive. And they like it and they enjoy it, enjoy all the people who have got realization. There's a family, has the same ideas, or we can say the same feeling, for the world and they are very happy about it. Q: Have any of your grandchildren or children had the same insight or born with the same insight as you? Shri Mataji: Yes, you see, I have also great-grandchildren. And I'm surprised that they are all born realized. They are born realized, that's very surprising. And the family is so united, so helpful and My great-grandchildren also have the vibrations, they understand. I mean its remarkable how the Divine has been kind to Me, to give such a family. I have never neglected My family, never, but they understand that My work is very important and they also enjoy My work very much. They also feel the vibrations, they also have got realization. Q: I'm not able to hear how to lose body consciousness. [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES: SHE CAN'T GET OUT OF HER BODY CONSCIOUSNESS] Shri Mataji: Now all these words have absolutely has no meaning. Body consciousness this thing, that thing. You see it is said that you should not be conscious of your body. You should be conscious of your body as a human being, there's nothing wrong. But once you get your realization, you become conscious of your subtle body, which is within you, so you can easily get it. But you don't lose the consciousness of your body, that's not so. These are all funny things they are doing. I was telling you that you fly in the air and all that, it's not. It's absolutely simple that you become consciously aware within yourself of your own powers. And which you use, not for cruelties or for making money, but for love. I mean it is something [CLAPPING] it is something that happens to you, like I would say a flower, see it's just a bud, maybe it's not even a bud, but then it becomes a flower. And you see your fragrance and you are amazed at yourself. So all these things that you have to give up your body consciousness, this consciousness, is not necessary at all. [YOU HAD...del] You don't have to give up anything. Wherever you are, whatever you are, in that only you get the light, the enlightenment as they call it. Q: [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES QUESTION: She's saying that in Native American tradition in the evolutionary system the human beings are higher compare to animal consciousness, you know and other forms of...?] Shri Mataji: You see Americans read too much, that's all. (LAUGHTER). All their beliefs come from some reading, I don't know from where they get all these ideas. And to neutralize them is very difficult on a mental level. But if you get your realization you suddenly discover that this was all nonsense. You said it's correct that Americans have this idea, those ideas, but these ideas are not reality. Have you felt the reality? First get to the reality, then you will see. In these words I don't know what people read. I mean this is nothing, I came long time back before here,, I ran away. I said, "Impossible." Their brains are already filled with so many books I don't know how to talk to them. And after nine years I appeared on your soil, now they are changing. Because they are realizing this is all kind of a money-making going on with the books. Thank God, it's coming up now. It's better. Q: Do you believe that the Kundalini is the same life-force energy that the Chinese called Chi, that this energy is part of us, part of the world that we can access in this way and also through things like Chi-Gong and Tai-Chi, is it the same force? [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES: Is kundalini the same force that exists all around us as the Chinese call Chi?] Shri Mataji: Ya, ya. It's true. But you see, it is, it has something to do with that, and that is what is our ego and super-ego. The Chinese what they have written, it's correct. But Chinese also don't know who is Lao-Tse, can you imagine? Lao-Tse is the man who talked about this thing, He's the one who told them about Kundalini and they don't know who is Lao-Tse. Especially in America, I don't know what sort of Chinese live here. It's such a great source of knowledge, and what they have said is a perfect thing. But everything gets integrated in Sahaja Yoga. All the knowledge, all the scriptures, everything gets [INTE...]. Absolutely integrated because out of light you see the truth in all of them. There is truth in everything, there is truth in every religion. But religion now has become money-oriented, or also power-oriented, so it's gone off. But actually if you go to the roots of it, it is all the same. For example take the case of Kosovo. Now there these Muslims wanted to have a separate state. It's not necessary, why do they want to have a separate state? You see everywhere where they were trying separate state, even in our country, they all are suffering. It seems even in the same state they could have done it. All right, they said it. But one thing one should understand, that in democracy, how can you have a state based on religion? You cannot, despite that they wanted to have. Now what did they get? Did they get their separate state? They became refugees, poor things starving, for two years they cannot go back to their houses and homes. Because there was no discretion. If you want to help them, best thing is to give realization to everyone. Then all Muslims, all Christians, all Hindus, all of them become Sahaja Yogis. They respect each other. They have to become Sahaja Yogis. No use becoming Christian, Hindus, Muslims, because that means fighting and in Italy we had a little discussion and they said that, "We don't want to have one global religion." We have a global religion because innately we are religious. If you know what that innate religion is then you will become global. But they don't want, because they want to fight. If there is one religion global, we all are there, respecting all the religions and all the incarnations and all the principles of religion, supposing, then how would you fight? On what basis will you fight? This is the problem, we have to go beyond these limitations which are created. We can say created by human beings only. Human beings are good at spoiling everything I feel that way. You see, if you go in a forest it's so clean, so nice, all the birds are there, all the animals are there, the lions are there, tigers are there. You may not find anything stinking, but you send one man there the whole place will be stinking (LAUGHTER). That is what we have done to religion also. don't know how many bifurcations we have of religions, how can you have? There's one God, how can there be so many religions? And just fighting in the name of religion is stupidity, because they don't know. If there's innate religion within you, the innate, which is so much encompassing the whole world. Now see Sufis are Muslims, what they write? They right nothing but Sahaja Yoga. What Christ wrote was Sahaja Yoga, what Mohammed Sahib wrote was Sahaja Yoga. They didn't write all these nonsensical things that people are doing. But they don't read even Koran, you'd be surprised. They don't even read Bible in proper way, or some people just go on reading words, words, words, words. How can you get into it? You must read within the lines. Yet they don't do, and then they start fighting. It's so absurd, the whole thing is, that next generation will not believe in any one of these organizations based on religion, I can tell you. But they might take to something also very bad. So the best thing is to get to the roots of it and find out. So many things are said to explain, according to times also, but how many people really know the roots of religion? They are all one, coming from the same tree, there's nothing to fight. Have you ever seen one branch of the tree fighting with another? It's as absurd as that, to Me I can't understand. It's not possible. For us to fight with each other, for what are we fighting? We are part and parcel of one whole. How can we fight, it's very unnatural, which is very dangerous also. As I said, a tree, on a tree there are so many leaves and they are all different. You won't find another leaf repeating itself. But they never fight with each other do they? Why should we, the human beings fight, in the name of God? They make money in the name of God. They fight in the name of God. They do all kinds of things in the name of God, now what do you say what sort of a God it is? How much we have brought glory to the name of God? All right? So we have to know that innate religion within us, which is in everyone. All of us have that innate religion, we may call it by any name. It's a pure, global religion we can call it. Which is within all of us, it's a fact, I'm telling you a fact. Otherwise you start fighting for this, fighting for that, then what will happen? That's what I said this is the last judgment, and this last judgment is really going to make the difference between the people who have got self-realization and who haven't got it. Last judgment we are not going to put on the balance to find out who is thinner and who is fatter, no. It is what have you got within yourself. What light you have got within yourself and you must have proper understanding that your value of your human life is very great. It is not something frivolous, cheapish, it's very great and you can help the whole world to emancipate. All right?(CLAPPING) Q: [??] Shri Mataji: You will get your self-realization don't worry, for you it will happen. Look at all the things that are there because you haven't got your self-realization. All right? Please make yourself comfortable. I never say you become vegetarians, I never say that. I never say you [DON'T...del] give up your smoking, drinking, nothing. If I say that, half of the people will go away. I just say, "All right you come and sit down, you get your self-realization then tell Me." Shri Mataji: What's there? Q: [??] [SAHAJA YOGI TRANSLATES: She is welcoming you. She's saying that when in collective, the kundalini moves but when she is alone...Sorry can you complete that?...it doesn't...] Shri Mataji: You should know you are never alone when alone. Absolutely, it's just, you just enjoy the loneliness also. Sometimes I'm left alone then I'm quite happy also you know. No questions, nothing, no problem. Sometimes I enjoy Myself you see. When you know what you are you really enjoy. I have seen people who have never written a word of poetry, after getting self-realization they become great poets. Some musicians, they were no good have become great musicians. Some people who never spoke a word, they have become great orators, so all this happens to you. And when you are alone, you get the ideas from the torsion area. Very important to be alone, so don't feel bad that you are alone. Here you are in connection with God, you're never alone. And you get all your ideas from the torsion area, if you note it down you'll be amazed at yourself. All right? May God Bless you. [ HINDI. SAHAJA YOGI MENTIONS REALIZATION AS QUESTIONS ARE OVER] Shri Mataji: So could we have self-realization? AUDIENCE: Yes, yes.[CLAPPING] As I've told you that it cannot be forced. You have to ask for it. It cannot be forced on you. You have to desire it because kundalini is the source of pure desire. So it cannot be forced. If you want it only then it will work out. But first of all, you must know that you are a human being and you must respect yourself. You must have love for yourself, it's not selfishness but respect that you are a human being and here you have come to get your self-realization. That's something very special. There are so many people in New York but you are special that have come for your self-realization. If you have only this feeling within yourself, without any force it will work out, I'm sure. Now, you don't have to do anything, but if you could take out your shoes it will be better because this Mother Earth helps us. I hope you don't mind taking out shoes. That will definitely help, because your connection with the Mother Earth is very important. You will then realize how important is this Mother Earth, how she helps us in our spiritual life. So far we have never known it's important. So, those who do not want self-realization have to leave the hall, they should not disturb other people. If they want to have they are welcome, very much and they can get it. It will hardly take ten minutes. Self-realization will take hardly ten minutes, not more then that. Because you people seem to be very aware, it's not the same as I'd seen, say, about twenty years back. You are very aware and I'm sure all of you will get it in no time. Now, only thing you have to do is to put both your hands towards Myself and both the feet apart from each other. Why and how, that you may know later on. Why. These two hands represent your two sympathetic nervous systems. Just put little higher, little higher. Now one thing is very important. That this center [POINTS TO AGNYA] is very constricted and to open this center you have to forgive everyone. Now you might say that it's very difficult to forgive, but the argument is whether you forgive or you don't forgive, you don't do anything. You just don't do. But if you don't forgive then you torture yourself, not the other fellow. So please just try to forgive. Forgive everyone, just say that. In My presence you say, "Mother, I forgive everyone in the world." Then second thing is that you have to forgive yourself also. Because if you feel guilty, no use feeling guilty you know, because it gives you pain here[ POINTS TO LEFT VISHUDDHI] and this center catches very badly. And you might get spondylitis with that or you might get also angina. So why feel guilty? I mean, whatever has happened has happened ,finished now, today, at this present moment. Because we have to be in the present. So forgive yourself. And people get, you know, entangled into this guilt from such, such small, small thing that I'm surprised at it. There's nothing to feel guilty. As I said you must have respect. After all, we are human beings, if you have made mistakes, it's all right. Now don't go on playing on that, just forgive yourself and forgive others, that's all you will need. Just say that. Now, put your hands up like this, towards Me. Now, put your right hand towards Me and bend your head and see if there's a cool or hot breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area. You can put your hand little away, little away from your head, not on top. And see, you can move your hand and see for yourself if there's a cool or a hot breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area. This is the actualization of baptism. Just see for yourself. This is your own power. Now, please put your left hand toward Me. Put down your head and see with your right hand if there's a cool or a hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area, which was the soft bone when you were a child. Now, this is hot, because you've not forgiven, either to yourself or to others, that's why it is hot, just see for yourself. You can raise your hand up and down , on the sides, and see for yourself. Now put both the hands towards Me and just try not to think. Don't think. That's the state, is the first state we have to achieve. Now just try to feel, if you feel any cool breeze on your finger tips or on your palm or [ON...del] from the fontanel bone area on top of your head. Just try to feel if you are feeling it, it's an experience as I told you. It is not that I have to certify, it is you have to certify. Please forgive, forgive everyone, forgive yourself, that's very important. Now, now raise your hands towards the sky and push back your head. Now you can ask any one of these three questions, any one of these questions, three times. For example you can say, "Mother," you can call Me Mother or Shri Mataji, "is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost?" Or, "Mother, is this the Paramachaitanya?" Or, "Mother, is this the All-Pervading Power of Divine love?" Ask anyone of these questions, three times. You can push back your head little bit. Now, take down your hands please. Those who have felt cool or hot breeze in their fingertips, on their palm or out of the fontanel bone area, please raise your hands. May God Bless you all. That is New York! May God bless you. I could feel the cool breeze coming from you to Me. Can you imagine this New York, it's a wonderful place now. But now, you have to grow. I must tell you, you have to grow. You'll feel very nice, on top of the world now, I know that you'll feel, but you have to grow. For that, we have programs, follow-up programs. So please try to come to those follow-up programs, because then you will grow and then you will realize. If you do not take to it little seriously, it won't work out and you'll be lost again. Like [SOME...del] Christ has said, that some seeds were sprouted and were thrown on the roadside. It's like that. So, you have to respect yourself, respect your self-realization and please try to come to our follow-up programs. I don't know where they have it, they will tell you just now where they will, please be seated for one minute only. One minute and write it down, it's important that you must know everything about it and you should become masters. Every one of you can give self-realization to at least thousand people. [SAHAJA YOGI ANNOUNCES THE FOLLOW UP INFORMATION] [SAHAJA YOGIS TAKE SHRI MATAJI'S PERMISION TO SING JOGAWA] Shri Mataji: Ah, this is a song. I must tell you this poem was written in the 16th century by a very great poet called Namadeva. But people didn't understand what it was about and it says that "Oh Mother, give me the Yoga, "Jogawa"" and he says, "I'm prepared now, I've given up this, I've given up that" means "I've given up anger, I've given up lust, I've given up greed, all this I've given up and now You raise my Kundalini" that is "Ambe", that You raise it and he shows with his hands like this [SHRI MATAJI BRINGS HER HANDS UP] that "You should [AH...del], Oh Mother give me this self-realization. It was said 16th century all our villages used to sing but they didn't know. When these people went [SHRI MATAJI POINTS TO THE SAHAJA YOGIS BHAJAN GROUP] to Kolhapur, there they met people who were singing this song, they got it from there, the whole notation and they have learnt it. See how clever they have become otherwise very difficult this Indian music is but how they have mastered it, I can't believe it. Now here we have people from all over the world especially from America and also from European countries, mostly, I don't think there's any Indian, ah there is some. [BHAJAN] [SHRI MATAJI DOES NAMASTE TO THE AUDIENCE AFTER BHAJAN IS OVER] Shri Mataji: Thank you very much.

6/20/1999

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Adi Shakti Puja: Sahaja Yogis have to transform others

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Canajoharie

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Adi Shakti

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Adi Shakti Puja. Canajoharie, USA. 20 June 1999. It is such a great pleasure to Me, to see you all assembled here, and which is such a far-fetched place, away from the madding crowd. It’s such a beautiful place, and which has vibrations. Shri Mataji: They can’t hear you. Now can you hear Me? Sahaja Yogis: Yes. Shri Mataji: All right. It’s all right now. I selected this place suddenly from a very thick newspaper, American newspaper. The vibrations were just shooting out and I said, “What is this, coming from where?” And there was a little advertisement, and I said, “This is the place where we have to go.” This place has so many vibrations, even in the advertisement. So you can imagine how the guidance comes. It comes from vibrations, and that’s how I was here and this place was selected by the Divine Force. It happened only in one day! Such a miraculous thing to happen in one day! It was taking so much time for them even to get this, and suddenly I told them, “Better get it.” It all worked out, and we are now here in the most beautiful atmosphere. Of course, you know that Red Indians were driven out, and they came here to hide themselves. They were hiding themselves in this place so that they should not be crushed and destroyed forever. That era is over now: that era of domination, of entering into somebody else’s land and occupying it, and considering it to be a great reverie. All that is over now, the human understanding has gone much beyond, and they understand that this is sinful, this is wrong, "Whatever we have done was wrong." But those people are no more. And the children and the grandchildren of those children, of these people, who were the children of God, they used to think, do not like all that. Because you have no right to take somebody’s land like that and occupy it as your own. Of course, the land doesn’t belong to anyone, but still wherever you are born, that’s your land, and that land has to be kept with those who are born here who own it. But this kind of aggression has been going on for ages now. Now the time has come to finish this, once [and] for all: [to] give up this kind of adventure, to enter into somebody’s land or somebody’s house and occupy it. But there’s another kind of aggression I see now, is that they enter into the minds of the people now - through their talk, through their all kinds of aggressive attitudes. And the mind itself becomes a slave. The present times are like that, I think, where people have no freedom to think what is right, what is wrong, and also to take to right things. They have to accept whatever is happening around, whatever is immoral, whatever is destructive. One has to accept because still, I think, we do not have sufficient number of Sahaja Yogis who can oppose all these adventures of modern times. We have another kind where we find these false gurus who aggress – specially America. America is really cursed that way because it had money, so all the crooks of the world came here. Just imagine! To have money itself is not a blessing. They all came here and looted rich people and have made so much money for themselves. This kind of exploitation is very much dangerous, much more, because the mind gets ruined. I have seen many people were ruined, specially many seekers were ruined completely. I hope they are born again and get their Self-realisation. The seeking is there, no doubt, but all kinds of obstacles have come, all kinds of temptations are there. And so, despite all that seeking, earnest seeking, honest seeking, they have fallen into traps, which I cannot explain why should it have happened, but it has happened – one has to see. It makes you very miserable, unhappy. But still so many are there, you are there, saved now. And in this Last Judgment you have risen from that level to this new level, where I am sure you will be able to salvage many more. Each person can salvage at least [a] thousand people. And so many of you, if you try that, it would be of a very, very great, very great emancipation for this world which we have all to save. So, one must know the first duty of every Sahaja Yogi, now, is to save others: to talk about Sahaja Yoga, to work out Sahaja Yoga in different places. For example now, I was surprised that, they are working out on children who are abused. They are also in India, we are working out on various places like prisons, armies. So you can enter into all kinds of activities, you can enter into all kinds of aggressed places and save people. But worst of all, I think, is the innocence is under attack in these Western countries, specially in America. The innocence is under attack and this is something [that] is very dangerous, because the children get this mutation at a very young age, and what will happen to them? So we have to think of all those innocent children: what we can do for them, how we can save them, how we can work it out. The concern has to now go from yourself to others. You’ve got your Realisation alright, you corrected yourself, you are absolutely perfecting yourself, all this is there, but now, what is to be done? For what is this light enlightened here? It is for others. So now Sahaja Yogis have to live for others and not for themselves. They’ll have all the energy, they’ll have all the support and they’ll have all the blessings. So we have to live for others. And how do we live for others? Is very simple, is to have concern, concern about everything. You should have concern about the Mother Earth, concern about your neighbours, concern about the people who [are] suffering all over the world. If you read the newspaper you will be amazed how things are happening, how people are suffering. We have to understand fundamentally, that unless and until transformation takes place, we cannot change this world. And you all can transform others, so it’s your duty, it’s your job to transform other people and to tell them what is Divine love. Love is the only way now we can work out. It is something like a big beacon which should go into this darkness of aggression, and which will clarify many places, many hearts, many people. It is a ocean, we should say: Ocean of Greatness. This Divine love is so great and so powerful [and] at the same time so very gentle that you can see the nature how the trees grow: every leaf gets the sunshine, every tree has its own position. We have to learn so much from the nature, because nature is bound with that love. Nature has no aggressiveness, it is just under the complete control of the Divine love. With this understanding you should also know that, when you are getting to Sahaja Yogis - what should be your attitude, how you should move, how you should talk to them, how you should understand them, how you should express your love. This is quite possible now. It’s not difficult. You should not be afraid, not feel shy. But in a sweet manner you can talk to them, you can communicate with them, you can tell them. Because this was the time, this was to happen. That’s the reason Adi Shakti had to come. Without Her, it would not have been possible. All other incarnations were there but, firstly, they were only on one chakra's, and another one was [that] they had to establish themselves with other people, with the people around. They did try and they worked it out, but it didn't really work in the real sense of the word. So Adi Shakti had to come, who has all of them with Her. They are all with us, all the time wanting to help you to do everything that you want to achieve. It is there with, these holy vibrations are with you. For every kind of good work you want to do, any kind of Sahaj work you want to do, these vibrations will definitely be there to guide you, to help you, to support you and to love you. You will be amazed how people, once they start working for Sahaja Yoga, how they are blessed from every angle. So, one has to decide in their own minds, that all your dreams have to come true. So, only thing, what you have to do, is to know only that your purpose of life is to spread Sahaja Yoga. Even now many Sahaja Yogis write to Me, “Mother, this is happening to me, that is happening.” “My father like that, mother like that,” but very few. Practically this is over now. They used to write, I should say, all such letters, but now I think they all were perfected and they no longer write. It’s a very unique time where there’s light everywhere, the nature is absolutely with you. You can see how nature acts, how it is trying to help you and support you, and how it wants to work out everything for you. It is to be just understood and felt, that you are something very special, and that you have all the help, every one of you. It’s not one person, two persons, it’s not ten persons group. It’s the whole lot. As if the whole ocean is there to help you: help you to swim over to save so many. You haven’t seen such an ocean where there is so much depth, and all the waves try to save you, to make you float in the realm of joy. All this has happened to you because there is a purpose. It’s not just because you have done puru punyas (पूर्व पुण्) and all that. Many people say [that] because of previous life we have got it. That is true. The cause may be that. But the result is that now you are capable of giving Realisation to people, and this is what you have to do. All the way you have come here in this wilderness. From this wilderness only you will rise, and you will bless all the people of the world. Specially America should be blessed again and again, because it’s the Viraat, it is Shri Krishna’s land, because people will always try to follow, to copy you. Things will improve if you get the, we can say the blessings of the various lotuses you have within yourself. No doubt. But what about you doing something? What about you doing something about it? And this is what is very important. Now only thing what you have to do about yourself, is to find out about your own activities, what activities you have been doing. You have to find out what have you done, and what you can do. When you meditate you think about yourself: How much you have grown? What have you done? What have you given to others? Whatever you’ve got, unless and until you distribute it, it won’t increase. That is the fundamental law. And that works. I have seen people who are Realized souls, who are very good, who know everything about Sahaja Yog, but are not yet that much confident, I should say, or that much deep. All this is only possible if you, yourself, get into creating new Sahaja Yogis, and more Sahaja Yogis, not for popularity but for their good and for the good of the whole. I was asked that I should come and stay in America, so [that] America will improve very much. So now, here I am! I came here, I stayed here, and I am definitely putting all My attention. Because it’s a very important, very, very important chakra which is America. And this very important country is doing sometimes very stupid things. I would not say that you enter into politics – no. I would not say you get into any opposition and form a group – no. But you also know that you have powers. Even your thought, your desire has powers. Try to experiment with it. Once you experiment, you will find out that only [with] the attention that you put to these things, it will work out. I am sure it will work out. It is a country which can definitely help for the emancipation of the whole human beings. But on the contrary, it is going on the other way round. I mean, American culture, I don’t understand at all - what the American culture is. As something, they say something, do something else. They have no proper value system, which is accepted by everyone, which is built traditionally from days together. The value system is so convoluted, so twisted that it’s only a Sahaja Yogi, by his nobility, by his greatness, can disentangle these people. They have funny ideas, and those funny ideas should not deter you, should not stop you, for you know that they are stupid, they are destructive and they will destroy all the good qualities. You should know that their responsibility of Americans is much greater than the responsibility of any other Sahaja Yogis, because they are accepted and regarded as the most competent people, as the most effective people, by the Divine Power. The Divine Power thinks that, now you can go all ahead, you can do so much. And let us see. Like we have the power and the machinery, but the machinery if it doesn’t work, what’s the use of the power? It is useless. So the machinery has to work, and it is working, it is spreading, but we have to double our efforts. I was thinking of doing some sort of a social work here, so that it will go, it will be caught in the eyes of many people. On a subtler level we have worked but now we have to work it on the surface. Subtler level we are there, we have achieved and we can achieve much more. But we should come out of it and think what can we do on the surface, so that people see what is Sahaja Yoga is, and what it can do to people. It’s your personal behaviour, your collective behaviour, your national behaviour: all [those] are going to change the atmosphere which is supposed to be superficial, so that, that also becomes subtler. I have been saying this in many places, but at this puja I think it is important to say that, if you are really facing the Adi Shakti, then you must know your powers are boundless. You have to just assert those powers. It is not a stationary power. There’s a movement in it, and there’s a right type of a movement. It knows where to enter, how to work it out. Now look at this place. Can you imagine Me thinking about a place like this? But I was just, had in mind, of course I must say, that we should have some place here, because the American Sahaja Yogis didn’t have any place to meet, that’s all, and see how I got it! But the desire to do all this should be there within your subtler level, and then it works. It works like a magic, I tell you. Now you have faith in yourself and decide about it. I am so very happy that it has been achieved with such ease - unbelievable - with such ease. Absolutely, nothing great was done. The way we got this was so simple that, just like another Sahaja Yogi, the person who was to sell us came down, so excited. And he just sold it to us, finished! We didn’t have to do anything to convince him or to talk to him or reduce the price. Nothing. And he sold it out to us. In the same way, whatever on a subtler level you desire, it becomes a terrific force, which moves by itself, which knows where to go, how to enter, into which area, and it gets the thing done. It’s something we all should experience and work it out with full confidence. It is the love that we have, the concern we have. This is the power that has given us Self Realization, and this is the power that has given us this enrichment of achievements. I am sure all of you who are here, will realise how it was done. I mean, so quickly. This is one of the things that should just tell you what we are capable of doing, what we are capable of achieving. And when you think of so many people who are lost in the maya of ignorance, we should really feel from inside that concern, and that hankering, “How can I help these people?” And you will be amazed, once you think like that, how this Divine Power, this Force, will come in. Forget about petty things and petty problems, they are nothing. You have such a powerful thing behind you. It’s true that all this universe was created, everything was created and then you were created, and all that is done. But the greatest thing this Power has done is to create Sahaja Yogis. This is the greatest thing. Those who have knowledge, those who have the pure knowledge and those who have the Divine love in their heart, what a tremendous personality it is! Just think of that and you will get all the opportunities to express that love. So, may God bless you!

Adi Shakti Puja. Canajoharie, USA. 20 June 1999. It is such a great pleasure to Me, to see you all assembled here, and which is such a far-fetched place, away from the madding crowd. It’s such a beautiful place, and which has vibrations. Shri Mataji: They can’t hear you. Now can you hear Me? Sahaja Yogis: Yes. Shri Mataji: All right. It’s all right now. I selected this place suddenly from a very thick newspaper, American newspaper. The vibrations were just shooting out and I said, “What is this, coming from where?” And there was a little advertisement, and I said, “This is the place where we have to go.” This place has so many vibrations, even in the advertisement. So you can imagine how the guidance comes. It comes from vibrations, and that’s how I was here and this place was selected by the Divine Force. It happened only in one day! Such a miraculous thing to happen in one day! It was taking so much time for them even to get this, and suddenly I told them, “Better get it.” It all worked out, and we are now here in the most beautiful atmosphere. Of course, you know that Red Indians were driven out, and they came here to hide themselves. They were hiding themselves in this place so that they should not be crushed and destroyed forever. That era is over now: that era of domination, of entering into somebody else’s land and occupying it, and considering it to be a great reverie. All that is over now, the human understanding has gone much beyond, and they understand that this is sinful, this is wrong, "Whatever we have done was wrong." But those people are no more. And the children and the grandchildren of those children, of these people, who were the children of God, they used to think, do not like all that. Because you have no right to take somebody’s land like that and occupy it as your own. Of course, the land doesn’t belong to anyone, but still wherever you are born, that’s your land, and that land has to be kept with those who are born here who own it. But this kind of aggression has been going on for ages now. Now the time has come to finish this, once [and] for all: [to] give up this kind of adventure, to enter into somebody’s land or somebody’s house and occupy it. But there’s another kind of aggression I see now, is that they enter into the minds of the people now - through their talk, through their all kinds of aggressive attitudes. And the mind itself becomes a slave. The present times are like that, I think, where people have no freedom to think what is right, what is wrong, and also to take to right things. They have to accept whatever is happening around, whatever is immoral, whatever is destructive. One has to accept because still, I think, we do not have sufficient number of Sahaja Yogis who can oppose all these adventures of modern times. We have another kind where we find these false gurus who aggress – specially America. America is really cursed that way because it had money, so all the crooks of the world came here. Just imagine! To have money itself is not a blessing. They all came here and looted rich people and have made so much money for themselves. This kind of exploitation is very much dangerous, much more, because the mind gets ruined. I have seen many people were ruined, specially many seekers were ruined completely. I hope they are born again and get their Self-realisation. The seeking is there, no doubt, but all kinds of obstacles have come, all kinds of temptations are there. And so, despite all that seeking, earnest seeking, honest seeking, they have fallen into traps, which I cannot explain why should it have happened, but it has happened – one has to see. It makes you very miserable, unhappy. But still so many are there, you are there, saved now. And in this Last Judgment you have risen from that level to this new level, where I am sure you will be able to salvage many more. Each person can salvage at least [a] thousand people. And so many of you, if you try that, it would be of a very, very great, very great emancipation for this world which we have all to save. So, one must know the first duty of every Sahaja Yogi, now, is to save others: to talk about Sahaja Yoga, to work out Sahaja Yoga in different places. For example now, I was surprised that, they are working out on children who are abused. They are also in India, we are working out on various places like prisons, armies. So you can enter into all kinds of activities, you can enter into all kinds of aggressed places and save people. But worst of all, I think, is the innocence is under attack in these Western countries, specially in America. The innocence is under attack and this is something [that] is very dangerous, because the children get this mutation at a very young age, and what will happen to them? So we have to think of all those innocent children: what we can do for them, how we can save them, how we can work it out. The concern has to now go from yourself to others. You’ve got your Realisation alright, you corrected yourself, you are absolutely perfecting yourself, all this is there, but now, what is to be done? For what is this light enlightened here? It is for others. So now Sahaja Yogis have to live for others and not for themselves. They’ll have all the energy, they’ll have all the support and they’ll have all the blessings. So we have to live for others. And how do we live for others? Is very simple, is to have concern, concern about everything. You should have concern about the Mother Earth, concern about your neighbours, concern about the people who [are] suffering all over the world. If you read the newspaper you will be amazed how things are happening, how people are suffering. We have to understand fundamentally, that unless and until transformation takes place, we cannot change this world. And you all can transform others, so it’s your duty, it’s your job to transform other people and to tell them what is Divine love. Love is the only way now we can work out. It is something like a big beacon which should go into this darkness of aggression, and which will clarify many places, many hearts, many people. It is a ocean, we should say: Ocean of Greatness. This Divine love is so great and so powerful [and] at the same time so very gentle that you can see the nature how the trees grow: every leaf gets the sunshine, every tree has its own position. We have to learn so much from the nature, because nature is bound with that love. Nature has no aggressiveness, it is just under the complete control of the Divine love. With this understanding you should also know that, when you are getting to Sahaja Yogis - what should be your attitude, how you should move, how you should talk to them, how you should understand them, how you should express your love. This is quite possible now. It’s not difficult. You should not be afraid, not feel shy. But in a sweet manner you can talk to them, you can communicate with them, you can tell them. Because this was the time, this was to happen. That’s the reason Adi Shakti had to come. Without Her, it would not have been possible. All other incarnations were there but, firstly, they were only on one chakra's, and another one was [that] they had to establish themselves with other people, with the people around. They did try and they worked it out, but it didn't really work in the real sense of the word. So Adi Shakti had to come, who has all of them with Her. They are all with us, all the time wanting to help you to do everything that you want to achieve. It is there with, these holy vibrations are with you. For every kind of good work you want to do, any kind of Sahaj work you want to do, these vibrations will definitely be there to guide you, to help you, to support you and to love you. You will be amazed how people, once they start working for Sahaja Yoga, how they are blessed from every angle. So, one has to decide in their own minds, that all your dreams have to come true. So, only thing, what you have to do, is to know only that your purpose of life is to spread Sahaja Yoga. Even now many Sahaja Yogis write to Me, “Mother, this is happening to me, that is happening.” “My father like that, mother like that,” but very few. Practically this is over now. They used to write, I should say, all such letters, but now I think they all were perfected and they no longer write. It’s a very unique time where there’s light everywhere, the nature is absolutely with you. You can see how nature acts, how it is trying to help you and support you, and how it wants to work out everything for you. It is to be just understood and felt, that you are something very special, and that you have all the help, every one of you. It’s not one person, two persons, it’s not ten persons group. It’s the whole lot. As if the whole ocean is there to help you: help you to swim over to save so many. You haven’t seen such an ocean where there is so much depth, and all the waves try to save you, to make you float in the realm of joy. All this has happened to you because there is a purpose. It’s not just because you have done puru punyas (पूर्व पुण्) and all that. Many people say [that] because of previous life we have got it. That is true. The cause may be that. But the result is that now you are capable of giving Realisation to people, and this is what you have to do. All the way you have come here in this wilderness. From this wilderness only you will rise, and you will bless all the people of the world. Specially America should be blessed again and again, because it’s the Viraat, it is Shri Krishna’s land, because people will always try to follow, to copy you. Things will improve if you get the, we can say the blessings of the various lotuses you have within yourself. No doubt. But what about you doing something? What about you doing something about it? And this is what is very important. Now only thing what you have to do about yourself, is to find out about your own activities, what activities you have been doing. You have to find out what have you done, and what you can do. When you meditate you think about yourself: How much you have grown? What have you done? What have you given to others? Whatever you’ve got, unless and until you distribute it, it won’t increase. That is the fundamental law. And that works. I have seen people who are Realized souls, who are very good, who know everything about Sahaja Yog, but are not yet that much confident, I should say, or that much deep. All this is only possible if you, yourself, get into creating new Sahaja Yogis, and more Sahaja Yogis, not for popularity but for their good and for the good of the whole. I was asked that I should come and stay in America, so [that] America will improve very much. So now, here I am! I came here, I stayed here, and I am definitely putting all My attention. Because it’s a very important, very, very important chakra which is America. And this very important country is doing sometimes very stupid things. I would not say that you enter into politics – no. I would not say you get into any opposition and form a group – no. But you also know that you have powers. Even your thought, your desire has powers. Try to experiment with it. Once you experiment, you will find out that only [with] the attention that you put to these things, it will work out. I am sure it will work out. It is a country which can definitely help for the emancipation of the whole human beings. But on the contrary, it is going on the other way round. I mean, American culture, I don’t understand at all - what the American culture is. As something, they say something, do something else. They have no proper value system, which is accepted by everyone, which is built traditionally from days together. The value system is so convoluted, so twisted that it’s only a Sahaja Yogi, by his nobility, by his greatness, can disentangle these people. They have funny ideas, and those funny ideas should not deter you, should not stop you, for you know that they are stupid, they are destructive and they will destroy all the good qualities. You should know that their responsibility of Americans is much greater than the responsibility of any other Sahaja Yogis, because they are accepted and regarded as the most competent people, as the most effective people, by the Divine Power. The Divine Power thinks that, now you can go all ahead, you can do so much. And let us see. Like we have the power and the machinery, but the machinery if it doesn’t work, what’s the use of the power? It is useless. So the machinery has to work, and it is working, it is spreading, but we have to double our efforts. I was thinking of doing some sort of a social work here, so that it will go, it will be caught in the eyes of many people. On a subtler level we have worked but now we have to work it on the surface. Subtler level we are there, we have achieved and we can achieve much more. But we should come out of it and think what can we do on the surface, so that people see what is Sahaja Yoga is, and what it can do to people. It’s your personal behaviour, your collective behaviour, your national behaviour: all [those] are going to change the atmosphere which is supposed to be superficial, so that, that also becomes subtler. I have been saying this in many places, but at this puja I think it is important to say that, if you are really facing the Adi Shakti, then you must know your powers are boundless. You have to just assert those powers. It is not a stationary power. There’s a movement in it, and there’s a right type of a movement. It knows where to enter, how to work it out. Now look at this place. Can you imagine Me thinking about a place like this? But I was just, had in mind, of course I must say, that we should have some place here, because the American Sahaja Yogis didn’t have any place to meet, that’s all, and see how I got it! But the desire to do all this should be there within your subtler level, and then it works. It works like a magic, I tell you. Now you have faith in yourself and decide about it. I am so very happy that it has been achieved with such ease - unbelievable - with such ease. Absolutely, nothing great was done. The way we got this was so simple that, just like another Sahaja Yogi, the person who was to sell us came down, so excited. And he just sold it to us, finished! We didn’t have to do anything to convince him or to talk to him or reduce the price. Nothing. And he sold it out to us. In the same way, whatever on a subtler level you desire, it becomes a terrific force, which moves by itself, which knows where to go, how to enter, into which area, and it gets the thing done. It’s something we all should experience and work it out with full confidence. It is the love that we have, the concern we have. This is the power that has given us Self Realization, and this is the power that has given us this enrichment of achievements. I am sure all of you who are here, will realise how it was done. I mean, so quickly. This is one of the things that should just tell you what we are capable of doing, what we are capable of achieving. And when you think of so many people who are lost in the maya of ignorance, we should really feel from inside that concern, and that hankering, “How can I help these people?” And you will be amazed, once you think like that, how this Divine Power, this Force, will come in. Forget about petty things and petty problems, they are nothing. You have such a powerful thing behind you. It’s true that all this universe was created, everything was created and then you were created, and all that is done. But the greatest thing this Power has done is to create Sahaja Yogis. This is the greatest thing. Those who have knowledge, those who have the pure knowledge and those who have the Divine love in their heart, what a tremendous personality it is! Just think of that and you will get all the opportunities to express that love. So, may God bless you!

6/24/1999

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Public Program. Washington DC (USA), 24 June 1999. I bow to all the seekers of truth. First of all, we have to know what is the truth. People are seeking, seeking, seeking, seeking all over. But they don't know what they are seeking and what should they get after their seeking. This seeking can lead you into many diverse directions. Some of them could be very very dangerous and absolutely misleading. And many must have or also felt that. I'm sure there are many who have found it out. But they think there is no way they can return. Seeking is very simple to understand. That you want to know yourself. All the time we say: I want this, I like this, I this, I that. But who is this I? What is it? Who is this one myself? What am I? Do I know anything about myself? It's a very superficial knowledge we have about ourselves. Everybody has said, all the religions have said: you should know yourself. There is no difference in this one. Actually in all religions, if you're going into the essence, there is no difference. According to time, it was a little bit stressed on one point and sometimes on another point. But the fundamental thing is that you have to know yourself. How do you know yourself is the point. People will say: do this, give up everything, give up your family, give up everything. Wear, this kind of dress cut your hair or shave your head and all that nonsense. It's so outward. If you put a little bit of your intelligence you'll see it's all outward. It's so skin deep, it has no meaning. So what has to happen? We talk of a last breakthrough of the evolution. How do you achieve it? When you are evolved up to the stage of human beings. We have to know one thing for definitely. That there's something missing within us. Otherwise, the world would have been a most beautiful place, the paradise to live in. But something's wrong with human beings and what is that? Is to understand how we have come up through evolution. And as human beings, there are so many things of the animal stage lingering within us. The way we talk, the way we try to oppress others, the way we talk to sort of dominate others. The way we want to snatch everything, the way we are only worried about our food. This, that. All this is not really a noble human being's sides. These are all lingering from that animal instinct. All right. We have to accept it. Because we are human beings so they are to be there. Nothing is so much frightening. But also we have one more thing that we think. And we think and think and think and think no end of ourselves. Sometimes, we think we should protest for this. Sometimes, we feel that we must become very violent. All these things are coming from our human mind. Animals won't be violent for something just for violence's sake. They'll be violent, alright. But for their own purpose of killing some animal or something. But here we have groups and groups of people who just enjoy violence. This is another development in human awareness, I think, that we enjoy the destruction of others. But also, there is a seeking. This is the sign that people want their evolution, they want to evolve into a better personality. That they want to become something which is complete. Now how do you achieve it? Now I must say that we have not achieved our evolution ourselves up to the human level. So, to achieve a higher awareness there must be some arrangement between us. And that is the arrangement we are not aware of. And that arrangement is that within you is the power. It’s your own power. To give you this last breakthrough Through the awakening of that power, already you have been told about it. It exists, it’s there. And It is the right of every human being to get his self-knowledge, self-realization. ‘Sahaja’, ‘Saha’ means born with you. With you is born the right. And why should we not ask our fundamental rights society? That we should have our Self-realization which is your own. It is there already placed within you. You don’t have to do anything, of course, you can’t pay for it. How much did you pay for your evolution so far? And how can it be different from different people? Because in every human being this power, which we call as Kundalini exists. Whether he is white, black, yellow, blue any colour. Whether he belongs to north or south, anyplace. Whether he belongs to this country or that country. They all have this power universally placed it their Kundalini. Even if I say, "Everybody has a heart". So why should we have differentiation? But this mind, this human mind creates this differentiation. And this problem saying that, "Of course, they are not of our country, they don't belong to our group". And like animals again, we start getting into groups, groups of different - I don't know, denomination - like some people have their fork and spoon put this way. So, they are one group. Some people drink coffee, so they have a group like that, you see. We are very good at forming groups. This is also animal instinct, I think, that we try to form groups of such stupid things. And then we can have wars. Because we must fight. "We are a group, something great, so we should fight others". All these instincts, that are within us, are inherited. They have come to us. They say it is in our genes. Still, can we change the genes? Can we transform our personality into something higher? And for that, I tell you, there is a power within us. All of you have that power within you. And what does it give you? It passes through six centres [five], as told you, it nourishes, it integrates it, and ultimately it pierces through the last fontanel bone area. We can call that actualisation of the baptism. And it's connected to the All-pervading Power of divine love. Again, I say 'love', divine compassion a,nd divine love. So you get connected to that Power which is All-pervading. If you ask a doctor, "Who runs our heart?" He'll say, "It's the autonomous nervous system". But what, who is the auto? Who does all these things? Who does all the living works? Look at these flowers, beautiful. Who has made these flowers? Such a different, different flower. How does this Mother Earth differentiate and how she gives all these flowers? Do we think about it? We take it for granted. All living work we take it for granted, but it is done by this divine Power. Believe me. There is this divine power around us which protects us, which looks after us, which guides us and also above all it loves us. And it cares for us. It wants, that we should all receive the blessings of this All-pervading Power. But if you are not connected, how can you? For example, this instrument is not connected to the mains, it is useless. It won't work, so we all have to be connected with that All-pervading Power. This is one thing if we understand. You can also know, but you are quite capable of getting to it. There's no outer thing you have to do. Like giving up this, giving that or praying, or nothing of the kind it is there, this process. The living process works, and you get your self-realization. Only thing is that if you have to enlighten, then you have to be enlightened. Like a candle which is not enlightened cannot enlighten any other candle, but one candle, which is enlightened, can enlighten so many candles, in the same way, you get the power to enlighten so many people all over the world and not only that, but you get so many powers. But the greatest power is that of compassion and love. By which you care, by which you help people. Luckily now in your country itself, they on the medical institutions have accepted Sahaja yoga, that it works because it attacks or, we should say, it nourishes the centres, basic centres in our body. Now these centres are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and also the spiritual being and it enlightens it and with that enlightenment, you get definitely cured. It's a fact with Sahaja yoga, many people have been cured. We also have a hospital in India and we are going to have another hospital there, maybe in America also we might have the hospital, where you don't have to pay for it. Because it is your own power, you may pay for your food or something, but for treatment. What can you pay when it's your own? And this is what is going to tell people how powerful you are. Otherwise, some are extremely aggressive and some are actually extremely depressive. There's nothing in between. But with this power, you become so much full of compassion. Then your attention goes from you to others. What you can do for others? How can you give them Realization? And suddenly, you discover that around you are so many destructive forces, so many disturbing forces, so many problems. Suddenly, you find they disappear. If you can transform human being, but it's no question of transformation. I would say, it is the question of evolutionary process. And when this takes place, you find you are transformed completely. And thousands have to be transformed, thousands and thousands and millions and millions. But somehow, America has a different type of approach to spirituality. They think, if I don't take money, then something's wrong with me. I must accept money. They have told me so many things, some experts came and told me, explained to me all the economics and all that, which I don't understand. And they think that it should be 'saleable'. I can't understand this kind of a thing. How much will you pay for Christ? How much will you pay for any saintly personality? Because It is - this value cannot be judged. It's invaluable. Something that’s the most invaluable for you, is to know yourself. If you have not known yourself, you're still going round and round and round in the mad rush of thinking. Even Einstein, you'll be surprised, has talked about it, that he was trying to find the theory of relativity and just he couldn't find it. So, he went into his garden and was playing with soap bubbles. And suddenly, from somewhere unknown, that's what he says, the theory of relativity dawned upon him. And he called that 'unknown area'. He calls them by a name and that name is rather, to me, not so precise. But he says, "There is an area which you can exploit, by which you can understand, for the future generation, for the future scientist, where you get the ideas from there. And he said, "For that, you must have a kind of a personality that can perceive that torsion area, from where the ideas are coming. If you can enter into that area, you can get the full idea as to what is reality". He calls it cognitive. He says this is a cognitive science. And such a person can tell you so many things which, when you put it to the scientific test, you'll find it's absolutely correct. And this is what happened to him because himself was a Realized soul. And many people like Newton himself was a Realized soul. Abraham Lincoln was a Realized soul, but they could not tell about it to others, because nobody would believe and anybody trying to tell anything, they just used to torture them. Every saint, a real saint I mean, has been tortured. Every Sufi has been tortured. In our country, especially, many saints have been very badly treated. Also in other countries. Why? Because they are only one and maybe people were jealousthat, "How could they know so much? How could they talk about so many things?" Now with all this, now only thing, if have done anything, it's very simple that I thought, "No use giving this Realization to one or two person", which was the tradition to give to only one to one. But now I felt it won't work out. We have to have it for the masses. And I just - what I did was to find out a method by which I can give a-mass Realization, that’s all, which is a simple thing. And that is working and it worked very well. As I said, in America, they just think of - this is another achievement of human beings - that they know about money. So, money, money, money, everything money. So, they can't understand even spirituality without money. But in a place like, we can say, Russia. Russia people - Russian people had no freedom as you have. And they had oppression from all sides, in there. As you know, the whole thing was a communistic country. And in that communism, they were completely oppressed. So, as a result, they went inside themselves and tried to find out solutions inside. So when they saw me, just seeing me, I don't know how, thousands of them came. Now we have thousands and thousands and thousands of people in Russia alone. Also in other some countries, I mean, I mean I see here, I'm just thinking in Russia we have to take - they cannot put it in a hall. We have to have a big tent or Olympics where they had some sort of a thing like that. So, the trouble is we should give up this idea that, "I can find it for myself". This is very, very common, you cannot. This is the only evolution in which you have to get it from an enlightened person. You have to humble on this point that, "I can't get it on my own". "I can find my own, way!" You cannot. You'll be lost. You have to have somebody, who is already enlightened. Now how to get an enlightened person also. How to? Because after Realization, you know the absolute truth on your fingertips. You can feel the centres of another person. If something is fishy, you can feel it. If somebody is cheating, you can feel it, everything, your fingers speak. This is what Muhammad Sahib has said, "At the time of resurrection your hands will speak". Clearly, how can hand speak? This is how. Because all these five fingers are the centres, sixth and seventh centre. One on the physical side another on the physical and also mental side was the right side and emotional side on the left side. These are two different systems within us, which people are not understanding, that there are two channels within us. What we call as the autonomous nervous system has got the parasympathetic nervous system in the centre, but there are two left and right sympathetic nervous systems. And these are the system two systems that are enlightened on your fingertips by which you know exactly what is wrong with you. What centres were catching, that is self-knowledge. People will go mad, but they will not know they're getting mad. They will have cancer, they will not know they are having cancer. This indicator tells you exactly what's wrong with you. Now, if you know, how to correct your centres, you can correct the centres of others also. Then also this another achievement is that you become collectively conscious. Means you can feel others on your fingertips. You can feel others on your fingertips. Who is the other? That's what we think. But nobody is the other. We are part and parcel of one spiritual personality. And once somebody has a problem, we immediately know there's a problem. Because on the fingertips you can feel it. This is true knowledge, is not some sort of reading a book or some sort of a thing, but is a true knowledge within yourself. Which you know yourself, which we call as cognitive science, which works within yourself. You don't have to go out to read anything to understand anything. Your own being itself is a complete computer, I should say, which tells you what's what. Who is what? We have no idea as to what we are. We have not been given any idea as to what potential we have. As tremendous it is. It is tremendous, and if it works it will work for you, for your family, for your children, for your city, for your nation and for the whole world. So this has to become a collective understanding within yourself, not mentally. Mental understanding is just temporary and passes over, but it's an actualization again and again I say, it's the actualization of the knowledge within yourself, then they talk only of that. They talk in the words of chakras, of the centres. That person is there, that person has got these, I have got these (unclear) on your fingertips. Which gives you a perfect answer for everything. Then it looks after you, it protects you, it guides you, as I told you, and guides you in the right way in the right manner, and how it achieves things is wonderful. So we have to first and foremost understand, that we have to have that special personality of a self-realized personality, which will really help and care for others. It's not just talking, it's not just reading, it's not just following some false guru, but it is following yourself, which is to show that you are your own master. You become your master, and you know everything about everything. This is the potential in all of you as I said it is not only for a few people. It's not for only black, white people, but it's also meant for people, who are uneducated, who are living in the villages, who are very simple people it works for all of them and when it works you'll be amazed, how it transforms you and transforms others, and you become so confident about it. You don't doubt yourself, because there's an absolute knowledge on your fingertips. It is something that is within you, which you should achieve. Of course for this, you should know, that so far you have not known so you have to. As long as you have this attitude it will work. I can not force, Sahaja yoga cannot force on anyone self-realization, cannot be forced. It has to be asked for. Unless and until you knock the door. It won't work out. It works out for people only, who really want it and who want to become self-realized. As a result, you don't have any responsibilities. It's only the responsibility of the all-pervading power, that does everything for you. That looks after you, that guides you and takes you to the right places, to the right situations and guides you in such a manner, that you are amazed. How is it? How is it working? How is it working out? There will be no meaning left to any miracles. But these miracles are not like taking out a diamond anything like that, but it's a miracle how the circumstances will change, how people will change, how you'll become such a joyous lovable personality. On this subject, I don't know how many lectures I have given and there's no end to it. But I would say that you should take your realization and go into our programs, whatever they have, and grow into it, because you take some time to grow, like seed sprouts, but it takes time to become a tree. But hardly one month at the most and don't have to pay there also. Again I'll tell you nothing has to be paid, you just give some time to yourself and it will work out. When you have mastered it, you'll be amazed, what you can do. A month at the most. Some people just get it and they don't have to do anything just they know. But most of the people have to do it. It improves everything: your thinking capacity, in the sense your brains get enlightened. You become a very large-hearted personality and other things that we think of prosperity and all that all comes through. This I'm just letting you like your mother would like to give an (unclear) with little chocolate on top. But the main thing is you must know yourself. How great you are, that is what every mother wants her child to know. That's my only desire is in America, if it spreads in that manner, it will all be a great thing, a great move for the whole world. May God bless you. Thank you.

Public Program. Washington DC (USA), 24 June 1999. I bow to all the seekers of truth. First of all, we have to know what is the truth. People are seeking, seeking, seeking, seeking all over. But they don't know what they are seeking and what should they get after their seeking. This seeking can lead you into many diverse directions. Some of them could be very very dangerous and absolutely misleading. And many must have or also felt that. I'm sure there are many who have found it out. But they think there is no way they can return. Seeking is very simple to understand. That you want to know yourself. All the time we say: I want this, I like this, I this, I that. But who is this I? What is it? Who is this one myself? What am I? Do I know anything about myself? It's a very superficial knowledge we have about ourselves. Everybody has said, all the religions have said: you should know yourself. There is no difference in this one. Actually in all religions, if you're going into the essence, there is no difference. According to time, it was a little bit stressed on one point and sometimes on another point. But the fundamental thing is that you have to know yourself. How do you know yourself is the point. People will say: do this, give up everything, give up your family, give up everything. Wear, this kind of dress cut your hair or shave your head and all that nonsense. It's so outward. If you put a little bit of your intelligence you'll see it's all outward. It's so skin deep, it has no meaning. So what has to happen? We talk of a last breakthrough of the evolution. How do you achieve it? When you are evolved up to the stage of human beings. We have to know one thing for definitely. That there's something missing within us. Otherwise, the world would have been a most beautiful place, the paradise to live in. But something's wrong with human beings and what is that? Is to understand how we have come up through evolution. And as human beings, there are so many things of the animal stage lingering within us. The way we talk, the way we try to oppress others, the way we talk to sort of dominate others. The way we want to snatch everything, the way we are only worried about our food. This, that. All this is not really a noble human being's sides. These are all lingering from that animal instinct. All right. We have to accept it. Because we are human beings so they are to be there. Nothing is so much frightening. But also we have one more thing that we think. And we think and think and think and think no end of ourselves. Sometimes, we think we should protest for this. Sometimes, we feel that we must become very violent. All these things are coming from our human mind. Animals won't be violent for something just for violence's sake. They'll be violent, alright. But for their own purpose of killing some animal or something. But here we have groups and groups of people who just enjoy violence. This is another development in human awareness, I think, that we enjoy the destruction of others. But also, there is a seeking. This is the sign that people want their evolution, they want to evolve into a better personality. That they want to become something which is complete. Now how do you achieve it? Now I must say that we have not achieved our evolution ourselves up to the human level. So, to achieve a higher awareness there must be some arrangement between us. And that is the arrangement we are not aware of. And that arrangement is that within you is the power. It’s your own power. To give you this last breakthrough Through the awakening of that power, already you have been told about it. It exists, it’s there. And It is the right of every human being to get his self-knowledge, self-realization. ‘Sahaja’, ‘Saha’ means born with you. With you is born the right. And why should we not ask our fundamental rights society? That we should have our Self-realization which is your own. It is there already placed within you. You don’t have to do anything, of course, you can’t pay for it. How much did you pay for your evolution so far? And how can it be different from different people? Because in every human being this power, which we call as Kundalini exists. Whether he is white, black, yellow, blue any colour. Whether he belongs to north or south, anyplace. Whether he belongs to this country or that country. They all have this power universally placed it their Kundalini. Even if I say, "Everybody has a heart". So why should we have differentiation? But this mind, this human mind creates this differentiation. And this problem saying that, "Of course, they are not of our country, they don't belong to our group". And like animals again, we start getting into groups, groups of different - I don't know, denomination - like some people have their fork and spoon put this way. So, they are one group. Some people drink coffee, so they have a group like that, you see. We are very good at forming groups. This is also animal instinct, I think, that we try to form groups of such stupid things. And then we can have wars. Because we must fight. "We are a group, something great, so we should fight others". All these instincts, that are within us, are inherited. They have come to us. They say it is in our genes. Still, can we change the genes? Can we transform our personality into something higher? And for that, I tell you, there is a power within us. All of you have that power within you. And what does it give you? It passes through six centres [five], as told you, it nourishes, it integrates it, and ultimately it pierces through the last fontanel bone area. We can call that actualisation of the baptism. And it's connected to the All-pervading Power of divine love. Again, I say 'love', divine compassion a,nd divine love. So you get connected to that Power which is All-pervading. If you ask a doctor, "Who runs our heart?" He'll say, "It's the autonomous nervous system". But what, who is the auto? Who does all these things? Who does all the living works? Look at these flowers, beautiful. Who has made these flowers? Such a different, different flower. How does this Mother Earth differentiate and how she gives all these flowers? Do we think about it? We take it for granted. All living work we take it for granted, but it is done by this divine Power. Believe me. There is this divine power around us which protects us, which looks after us, which guides us and also above all it loves us. And it cares for us. It wants, that we should all receive the blessings of this All-pervading Power. But if you are not connected, how can you? For example, this instrument is not connected to the mains, it is useless. It won't work, so we all have to be connected with that All-pervading Power. This is one thing if we understand. You can also know, but you are quite capable of getting to it. There's no outer thing you have to do. Like giving up this, giving that or praying, or nothing of the kind it is there, this process. The living process works, and you get your self-realization. Only thing is that if you have to enlighten, then you have to be enlightened. Like a candle which is not enlightened cannot enlighten any other candle, but one candle, which is enlightened, can enlighten so many candles, in the same way, you get the power to enlighten so many people all over the world and not only that, but you get so many powers. But the greatest power is that of compassion and love. By which you care, by which you help people. Luckily now in your country itself, they on the medical institutions have accepted Sahaja yoga, that it works because it attacks or, we should say, it nourishes the centres, basic centres in our body. Now these centres are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and also the spiritual being and it enlightens it and with that enlightenment, you get definitely cured. It's a fact with Sahaja yoga, many people have been cured. We also have a hospital in India and we are going to have another hospital there, maybe in America also we might have the hospital, where you don't have to pay for it. Because it is your own power, you may pay for your food or something, but for treatment. What can you pay when it's your own? And this is what is going to tell people how powerful you are. Otherwise, some are extremely aggressive and some are actually extremely depressive. There's nothing in between. But with this power, you become so much full of compassion. Then your attention goes from you to others. What you can do for others? How can you give them Realization? And suddenly, you discover that around you are so many destructive forces, so many disturbing forces, so many problems. Suddenly, you find they disappear. If you can transform human being, but it's no question of transformation. I would say, it is the question of evolutionary process. And when this takes place, you find you are transformed completely. And thousands have to be transformed, thousands and thousands and millions and millions. But somehow, America has a different type of approach to spirituality. They think, if I don't take money, then something's wrong with me. I must accept money. They have told me so many things, some experts came and told me, explained to me all the economics and all that, which I don't understand. And they think that it should be 'saleable'. I can't understand this kind of a thing. How much will you pay for Christ? How much will you pay for any saintly personality? Because It is - this value cannot be judged. It's invaluable. Something that’s the most invaluable for you, is to know yourself. If you have not known yourself, you're still going round and round and round in the mad rush of thinking. Even Einstein, you'll be surprised, has talked about it, that he was trying to find the theory of relativity and just he couldn't find it. So, he went into his garden and was playing with soap bubbles. And suddenly, from somewhere unknown, that's what he says, the theory of relativity dawned upon him. And he called that 'unknown area'. He calls them by a name and that name is rather, to me, not so precise. But he says, "There is an area which you can exploit, by which you can understand, for the future generation, for the future scientist, where you get the ideas from there. And he said, "For that, you must have a kind of a personality that can perceive that torsion area, from where the ideas are coming. If you can enter into that area, you can get the full idea as to what is reality". He calls it cognitive. He says this is a cognitive science. And such a person can tell you so many things which, when you put it to the scientific test, you'll find it's absolutely correct. And this is what happened to him because himself was a Realized soul. And many people like Newton himself was a Realized soul. Abraham Lincoln was a Realized soul, but they could not tell about it to others, because nobody would believe and anybody trying to tell anything, they just used to torture them. Every saint, a real saint I mean, has been tortured. Every Sufi has been tortured. In our country, especially, many saints have been very badly treated. Also in other countries. Why? Because they are only one and maybe people were jealousthat, "How could they know so much? How could they talk about so many things?" Now with all this, now only thing, if have done anything, it's very simple that I thought, "No use giving this Realization to one or two person", which was the tradition to give to only one to one. But now I felt it won't work out. We have to have it for the masses. And I just - what I did was to find out a method by which I can give a-mass Realization, that’s all, which is a simple thing. And that is working and it worked very well. As I said, in America, they just think of - this is another achievement of human beings - that they know about money. So, money, money, money, everything money. So, they can't understand even spirituality without money. But in a place like, we can say, Russia. Russia people - Russian people had no freedom as you have. And they had oppression from all sides, in there. As you know, the whole thing was a communistic country. And in that communism, they were completely oppressed. So, as a result, they went inside themselves and tried to find out solutions inside. So when they saw me, just seeing me, I don't know how, thousands of them came. Now we have thousands and thousands and thousands of people in Russia alone. Also in other some countries, I mean, I mean I see here, I'm just thinking in Russia we have to take - they cannot put it in a hall. We have to have a big tent or Olympics where they had some sort of a thing like that. So, the trouble is we should give up this idea that, "I can find it for myself". This is very, very common, you cannot. This is the only evolution in which you have to get it from an enlightened person. You have to humble on this point that, "I can't get it on my own". "I can find my own, way!" You cannot. You'll be lost. You have to have somebody, who is already enlightened. Now how to get an enlightened person also. How to? Because after Realization, you know the absolute truth on your fingertips. You can feel the centres of another person. If something is fishy, you can feel it. If somebody is cheating, you can feel it, everything, your fingers speak. This is what Muhammad Sahib has said, "At the time of resurrection your hands will speak". Clearly, how can hand speak? This is how. Because all these five fingers are the centres, sixth and seventh centre. One on the physical side another on the physical and also mental side was the right side and emotional side on the left side. These are two different systems within us, which people are not understanding, that there are two channels within us. What we call as the autonomous nervous system has got the parasympathetic nervous system in the centre, but there are two left and right sympathetic nervous systems. And these are the system two systems that are enlightened on your fingertips by which you know exactly what is wrong with you. What centres were catching, that is self-knowledge. People will go mad, but they will not know they're getting mad. They will have cancer, they will not know they are having cancer. This indicator tells you exactly what's wrong with you. Now, if you know, how to correct your centres, you can correct the centres of others also. Then also this another achievement is that you become collectively conscious. Means you can feel others on your fingertips. You can feel others on your fingertips. Who is the other? That's what we think. But nobody is the other. We are part and parcel of one spiritual personality. And once somebody has a problem, we immediately know there's a problem. Because on the fingertips you can feel it. This is true knowledge, is not some sort of reading a book or some sort of a thing, but is a true knowledge within yourself. Which you know yourself, which we call as cognitive science, which works within yourself. You don't have to go out to read anything to understand anything. Your own being itself is a complete computer, I should say, which tells you what's what. Who is what? We have no idea as to what we are. We have not been given any idea as to what potential we have. As tremendous it is. It is tremendous, and if it works it will work for you, for your family, for your children, for your city, for your nation and for the whole world. So this has to become a collective understanding within yourself, not mentally. Mental understanding is just temporary and passes over, but it's an actualization again and again I say, it's the actualization of the knowledge within yourself, then they talk only of that. They talk in the words of chakras, of the centres. That person is there, that person has got these, I have got these (unclear) on your fingertips. Which gives you a perfect answer for everything. Then it looks after you, it protects you, it guides you, as I told you, and guides you in the right way in the right manner, and how it achieves things is wonderful. So we have to first and foremost understand, that we have to have that special personality of a self-realized personality, which will really help and care for others. It's not just talking, it's not just reading, it's not just following some false guru, but it is following yourself, which is to show that you are your own master. You become your master, and you know everything about everything. This is the potential in all of you as I said it is not only for a few people. It's not for only black, white people, but it's also meant for people, who are uneducated, who are living in the villages, who are very simple people it works for all of them and when it works you'll be amazed, how it transforms you and transforms others, and you become so confident about it. You don't doubt yourself, because there's an absolute knowledge on your fingertips. It is something that is within you, which you should achieve. Of course for this, you should know, that so far you have not known so you have to. As long as you have this attitude it will work. I can not force, Sahaja yoga cannot force on anyone self-realization, cannot be forced. It has to be asked for. Unless and until you knock the door. It won't work out. It works out for people only, who really want it and who want to become self-realized. As a result, you don't have any responsibilities. It's only the responsibility of the all-pervading power, that does everything for you. That looks after you, that guides you and takes you to the right places, to the right situations and guides you in such a manner, that you are amazed. How is it? How is it working? How is it working out? There will be no meaning left to any miracles. But these miracles are not like taking out a diamond anything like that, but it's a miracle how the circumstances will change, how people will change, how you'll become such a joyous lovable personality. On this subject, I don't know how many lectures I have given and there's no end to it. But I would say that you should take your realization and go into our programs, whatever they have, and grow into it, because you take some time to grow, like seed sprouts, but it takes time to become a tree. But hardly one month at the most and don't have to pay there also. Again I'll tell you nothing has to be paid, you just give some time to yourself and it will work out. When you have mastered it, you'll be amazed, what you can do. A month at the most. Some people just get it and they don't have to do anything just they know. But most of the people have to do it. It improves everything: your thinking capacity, in the sense your brains get enlightened. You become a very large-hearted personality and other things that we think of prosperity and all that all comes through. This I'm just letting you like your mother would like to give an (unclear) with little chocolate on top. But the main thing is you must know yourself. How great you are, that is what every mother wants her child to know. That's my only desire is in America, if it spreads in that manner, it will all be a great thing, a great move for the whole world. May God bless you. Thank you.

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1999-06-26 Public Program in Vancouver I am delighted to convey my warmest greetings to everyone celebrating the arrival of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi in Canada. I would also like to join with you in welcoming such a distinguished visitor to our country. Canadians take great pride in our individuality and at the same time are unified by our shared ideals and values. The preservation and enhancement of heritage and culture are unique to Canada’s vision of nationhood. This special occasion provides you with an opportunity to honour your faith and promote understanding through the reaffirmation of tradition. Please accept my best wishes for a most enjoyable and memorable experience, Jean Chretien, The Prime Minister of Canada. Shri Mataji I would also like to read a greeting from the Premier of British Columbia, Glen Clark. I am pleased to extend warm greetings to our holiness Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi and everyone attending the 1999 World Peace tour. Welcome to the city of Vancouver. British Columbia is a multicultural society that encourages people from around the world to retain the heritage, customs, and traditions of their native lands. This special visit by Shri Mataji is an excellent way to celebrate the integration of our diverse cultures and religions. I would like to take this opportunity to commend event organizers for the role they play in the promotion of a greater understanding of the traditions of India and the benefits of seeking inner peace. On behalf of the government and the people of British Columbia, please accept my best wishes for a successful evening, Glen Park, Premier. Shri Mataji accepts framed item and says thank you Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of truth. I was surprised in the West there is so much of seeking. People have gone very far seeking the truth. But one must know what is the truth is, what are we seeking after all because so many are lost and I feel so sorry that it has gone beyond any redemption. When they are seeking what they are seeking is the inner peace as they said but it is not only inner peace that you achieve, what you get is the self-knowledge, to begin with. Self-knowledge is the one by which we know ourselves. Now, do we know ourselves? We do not, that’s why all of them have said that know thyself. In the seeking we read books, we go to different places and what we find is that there is no proper guidance and no proper help for people to seek the truth. It is very unfortunate I feel that such good souls are lost because of wrong ideas. So the first thing that you have to do is to establish peace within yourself. You must know that our creator who has created us and who has brought us to this level of human awareness, himself, is anxious to give you the self-knowledge, the last breakthrough of your evolution. But as it is if you see in this in our evolution though we have become human beings we are still having some lingering effects of our past and that’s how you find people are so aggressive, so cruel sometimes, so much of that animal instinct within us working and we don’t understand why, why is it and then we realize that there is something missing in us and what is that we have to find out. We go to religions also but you have seen that religion is no more the real religion in the sense it has become power-oriented or money-oriented. These are all superficial things and of human awareness. There should be no power orientation and no money orientation because God doesn't understand this kind of power and also the money part. Because of this, religions have lost their basics and those basics are lost in such a manner that we don’t realize that these people are up to something really violent and sometimes very mean as far as God is concerned. How could there be a quarrel between different religions when they worship the same God. This power about what people have told you about, the Kundalini, which exists in our triangular bone. This power exists in every human being, every human being has got this power, whether you are black white yellow green blue or anything, whether you belong to America or to Canada or to India anywhere, they all have got this power within you to give you your self-realization. Unless and until you get the self-realization what happens with you is that you cannot get to the real point of yoga means union with the divine. You see all these flowers here, such beautiful flowers you have, you don't even think how they are created, how they are differentiated so beautifully, we are not bothered, we take all living process as granted but if you think about it you will be surprised that it is done so beautifully, so well organized, so who does this, who does this work and if I say it is done by the all-pervading power of divine love, you need not believe me, you have to feel it for the first time, this all-pervading power that is surrounding us is all over and does all our living work, for example, if you ask a doctor who runs our heart, he will say it is autonomous nervous system. But who is the auto behind it? We have to know that there is a power that works all these things, does all these things which are natural, but so far we have never been able to find out what is that power in it which of course I am sure tonight you are all going to feel it. You must have the experience, no use talking about big big things or without any experience of this power which surrounds us. It is in all scriptures it is described. The Christian religion it is described as the cool breeze of the holy ghost, in the Hindu religion it is called ‘saeelum, saeelum’ by Adi Shankarya, it is also talked about in the Islamic religion as ‘rhue', so in all religions, they are talking about the same power which surrounds us and does all living work. It is very amazing how they have overlooked the point which is so common in all of them. Of course, because of these incarnations and these prophets coming at different times, it is little bit, apparently, it looks different but it is not, it is actually absolutely basically the same, the roots are the same, the tree is the same only when we see all these trees you start thinking may be different, it is not. So the whole basis is one and there is no need to fight, there is no need to condemn anyone but just to see the oneness, oneness of the whole world and you will be amazed that it is such a big thing that we have within us that we become a global personality. Who is the other after all, who is the other? When you become the global personality they call it the new awareness called as the collective consciousness. So you become collective. When this Kundalini rises through these six centres these six centres are responsible for your physical, mental, and emotional being. They look after all these things, apart from that it is for our spiritual being also. So when this Kundalini rises she passes through these centres and she nourishes them, she nourishes them, she integrates them and we become really enlightened. Because our spirit which is in our heart, also starts emitting light in our attention. Our attention becomes enlightened. Through our attention we can make out, we can find out, what is wrong with our centres. We have first of all no ideas of having any centres within us Now all of them have talked about it, its nothing new I am telling you, only thing is that now this happening is taking place en mass, for all the people it is working out because it had to. If we have to get rid of all the nonsense that surrounds us, all the artificiality that kills us and all the wrong things that are shown everywhere, then we have to become higher personalities. These human weaknesses which are coming from our heritage of being animals still there. The difference is that human beings can think, they can think, they can react, while the animals don’t think and this thinking gets us into lots of nonsense. So thinking, thinking, thinking we go mad and reach nowhere. This instrument of thinking is not such a reliable thing. It has no credibility. So far it has shown no results but still, we depend on our thinking. So what happens when the Kundalini rises, she passes through these chakras, what we call the centres, and pieces through the fontanelle bone area which is the soft bone of your childhood and connects you to this all-pervading power of divine love. Then you become one, one with the divine love and this love starts moving through you. All this power that you get is of love and compassion. It is not the power that agresses, that shows your animal behaviour but a special superior personality, and once that happens you are amazed how much you can do, you can feel your own centres on your fingertips, then you can feel also the centres of others on your fingertips. Mohammed Sahib has said that at the time of resurrection your hands will speak, that’s what they speak and they give witness against you as they said that means they tell you what's wrong with you actually, and you accept it because you know in the light of the spirit that this is all destructive, this is wrong and once you accept it if you know how to cure it, you just cure it and you want to be completely cured. Whether you go to China or to Japan or you go anywhere else in every religion, say, Islam, Sikhism, Hinduism, Christianity anywhere, they have talked about self-knowledge. All of them have talked about self-knowledge and you cant pay for it, it’s a living process of your growth, you cant pay for it, once you know you can't pay for it then you will understand that money is needed by human beings, God does not understand. It’s a living process and for any living process you can't pay, for example, you cant pay for running your heart, you cant pay for___?__, nothing you can do, I mean they don’t understand money is madness, so you have to get your realization is the main point and everybody has said the same thing, there is nothing new I am telling you. Only thing I am trying to show is oneness of the whole so that it’s a global innate religion within us which tells us what we have to have. What should we achieve and that achievement is very important. If you want to have a mind that wants to quarrel, fight and all that, that mind becomes absolutely silent and peaceful. How it happens is very surprising, that when we are thinking, there are waves of thoughts, and when we are standing in the waves of an ocean we are afraid, we don’t know what will happen, first we decide to do this way or that way, but supposing you are in a boat, then you look at those waves and enjoy them, not only that but afterwards if you become a good swimmer you can go dive down and save many people. This exactly what happens, that you become master of your own and you know what is this power is, and how to use it to emancipate human beings. I wouldn't say that man, human beings have to be transformed because that will challenge them, but I would say you have to blossom, you have to evolve and your fragrance has to spread, all over the world. This is not at all difficult, Sahaj also means spontaneous, also it means born with you, saha means with ja born, born with you is the spirit. You have a birthright to get your self-realization. Its absolutely a thing granted to us by our creator, the __?___. Even scientists like Einstein have talked about it, that you have to go into an area which he called at tortion area. In that tortion area according to him, you get ideas which are genuine, truthful, and one can work on them so beautifully that they all turn out to be truthful, like when he was searching his theory of relativity, he was working his lab for hours together, days together, then he got fed up, and then he says he was sitting in his garden playing with the bubbles, soap bubbles, like a child, and from somewhere, from somewhere unknown, he says the theory of relativity dawned upon him. What is that unknown place he called it a tortion area, but tortion area is what we call is the area of the all-pervading power of divine love. Now this theory of divine love, whatever they have talked about divine love has to be actualized. Actually, if it doesn’t happen we still roam about, float about with something artificial, words are words, these words have to become reality and how do they become reality is, by becoming a self knowledgeable, a self-realized soul. This is a very very important point we are missing and that’s why the world is topsy turvy, that's why we have problems in this world. We have problems in our personal lives, we have problems in the cities and we have in the countries and above all in the whole world. All these problems can be easily solved, when we all get our self-realization. I have now been working for so many years and what I find is that people are just ready to get it. Maybe in the olden days, they were not so much ready and also there was a tradition that realization should be given at most to the one person. Maybe because of that it didn't work ou,t but today people are born to get realization. They have been searching all these things may be in last lives, many years and today is the time for them to get it. And for that, you don't have to give up anything. This idea of giving up is absolutely wrong and false. What do we get is give up wife, give up your husband, give up your children, give up all your property, to whom? To whom do you give this? What is there to give up? If inside yourself there is complete renunciation, if a temperament of renunciation is within you whether you are a king or anything else you are full of joy, you are a joy-giving personality and you live in joy and you enjoy everyone, that is the situation which you have to achieve and which is very easy for you all of you to achieve it. there is no end to it, I can go on talking for years together and I have but what I am saying the best thing to go beyond words and to get your self-realization. We have to go in between to see the subtle side of all the sayings of the great prophets and saints, unless and until we see that, we are absolutely on a gross level and this gross level has to go otherwise our world cannot change. Luckily Sahaja Yoga is so working in 72 countries, very surprising. Out of that Russia is the best, of course, India is there because in India traditionally they know we must get our nirvana, we must get our self-realization so it is different. But Russia is the place where there was no freedom of any kind, they never knew about God, never knew about spirituality, but because of the operation on them, of the Kundalini they dove deep into themselves that I am amazed how Russians have taken to Sahaja Yoga, thousands and thousands and millions and millions of Sahaja yogis are in Russia and they are in the most enjoyable position. They had a coup when I was there so I asked them aren't you worried about the coup that you are having, said mother why should we worry we are in the kingdom of God, why should we worry, so that's what has to happen to you all, you all deserve it. so one thing is there not to feel guilty about anything, not to worry about all these things, but to get your self-realization. That's something so great once it happens you will be amazed how many things can work out. I have seen people getting very creative in Sahaja yoga. Ordinary people have risen to such heights of creativity of beauty of simple and very magnanimous behaviour towards art, music. They are also extremely moral. I don’t have to tell them don’t do this don’t do that, I never tell them because if I tell them half of them will walk off but you better take your realization, automatically you become so beautiful and so much enjoying yourself and others, that you don’t want you do not want any more of those conflicts that are existing, so it is very simple as I told you, the yoga is union with the divine, and we talk of divine but we don’t know what is divine is, what is unity, for that you have to rise up to that level of super human beings I should say, by which you will know what is divinity and all kinds of greed and grabbing and domination not only that,,also the depressions and aggressed temperament, all that drops out and you become the most I should say joyous personality, very joyous full of joy and your age also doesn’t tell about you, you must be knowing my age, I am over 77 years of age and it doesn’t work on me, just time is passing like this and it never works on me, so in the same way you don’t have to worry about your age and about your illnesses, because it cures yours, these centers are responsible, all of them are responsible for looking after your physical being. Once they are enlightened, you get absolutely surprisingly cured by your own power, you don’t have to go to the hospital, you don’t have to pay money or anything, you just get cured, and that is what happens, unbelievable, we have a hospital also in India, never Bombay, where I was surprised at the results how Sahaja yoga has worked wonders, in 2, 3 days patients are out of the hospital and enjoying themselves, same with the drug addictions which is one of your biggest problems, overnight people give up drugs, overnight all such things which are destructive just happens, I don’t do anything, it is your own Kundalini which is your mother, she is your individual mother, just like a tape recorder she knows everything about you, she knows what's wrong you have done, what are your problems and what are your aspirations, she knows everything and once she becomes one with the divine power, she works it out. Moreover, also there are many books written about Kundalini saying that if there is Kundalini awakening, you get these symptoms that symptoms, all these years of my work I haven't seen anyone suffering from any one of these symptoms because must be something wrong they do. Kundalini is your own mother and she wants you to become a realized soul, one with this all-pervading power, and once that happens you yourself realize how kindly, how softly, how sweetly it has risen, you never felt anything, any kind of trouble __??__. So I am here to tell you about your potential. What potential you have is free, you don’t have to spend money for it you don’t have to do anything stand on your head, give up this give up that all that nonsense is out. Its something inside that happens, and you become a personality which is absolutely surprisingly in the super __?__ all this is within you, I don't have to do anything much about it, it all works and I am sure, I am sure tonight you are all going to become one with it, in any case, I would like to have some questions from you because the mind is going on of some people, so I would like to have some questions. If you have any questions please ask. Well, that is something that if there is something lingering in your head then __?__. You can raise your hand if you want to have a question Question unclear Shri Mataji: the question is alright, that once you become realized soul, then why do you come down. The problem is in your chakras, still, there are problems, supposing somebody has a liver, the Kundalini is your mother, she is very kind and affectionate so she tries to go back there, again to treat the liver, from whatever problems you have in your chakras she treats, it takes time, about within a months time you can become a master, no doubt, but why it happens because still, you have not been meditating, you are not working it out, it is for you to work it out and permanently it will be there. There are so many, even in your Vancouver who are there now settled nicely. So everybody can do it. it can be any kind of ignorance you had, you start thinking, finding out whether it is true or not or something doubting yourself. Then you also sometimes feel guilty for nothing at all. I mean in the west I find people are always guilty for any small nonsensical thing. Supposing some coffee spills, they feel guilty for all their lives. See all these things ___?__ our society who have funny norms, go on worrying about it and that’s how we lose our that state. but it is there, always there, but the effect of it is reduced so best is to pay attention to yourself and meditate and you are always there, there's no hurt? Question: unclear Shri Mataji: to become divine, simple, that’s the question, to be frank within us what is the purpose of human life is to become divine, part and parcel of __?__. Now supposing you are a father, what do you want your son to become? Happy enjoyable, and also a responsible person. You always want that for your children, then your great father what does he want from you, he wants you to be happy, joyous people. Out of ignorance, you are not that, so he wants to remove that ignorance, this is the purpose of our life Question: unclear Shri Mataji: absolutely its absolutely curable. It comes out of your imbalance and with that, it can get completely cured. Except for, I have seen it works for everything except for this AIDS business because these patients of AIDS are extremely aggressive and they don’t want to take anything, and they are so angry because they think they have a right to kill others who torture others who get angry with others for what, we tried our hand on this AIDS, but these people are funny you know, they don’t know they are going to die tomorrow, they should be little humble Question: unclear Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi (translation: Hindustani asks the most questions, they ask lots of questions). it is based on all the religions, whatever the religion it is, you take any one of them they have said seek within yourself, who has not said if it is not a lecture? Question: I have read in different descriptions about people have raised ___?__ and they talked about how dangerous it was and how careful one has to be. I am interested in how differences in the way that you teach it Shri Mataji: I have already told you that many people have written that Kundalini is something a bad thing, you know anything ___?__ whichever is written, now that’s the trouble of your ignorance, it is not, it is not, its absolutely wrong, absolutely wrong, it is only just to make money, you see people do all kinds. I would say like guru Nanaka, he has written Granth Sahib and clearly, clearly he has said, it is written that once you __?__ Sahasrara, absolutely written down in everything, but problem is that people are doing a diverse ideas, maybe money making, I don’t know why they do it when they have no idea, they have no authority Question: Mataji human beings should use vegetarian food Shri Mataji: nothing of that kind, whatever suits your body you should take, we don’t have all these nonsensical ideas that you eat this, why eating only, but whatever suits you, if you need proteins, you take proteins, if you need vegetables you eat that, it’s the body whatever it requires you should take. All this you don’t eat this you don’t eat that I cant understand Question: unclear Shri Mataji: pituitary gland? Calcified, oh can be, one should try, if it is calcified it takes time but can be helped Question: Mother with the risk of sounding personal, not trying to, what happened personally for you that made you realize that this is __?__ way to go Shri Mataji: I will answer this question very simple, how do you know, when did you know you were a human being, in the same way, I was born and I knew I had all these things in me, but I didn't do it anything till 47 years of age I didn't start my work, I stayed quiet, I was trying to find out how to give en masse realization. Supposing I give realization to one person he will be tortured, they will all get after my life, they may crucify me, they do anything because people don’t like anyone like that, so I said if you have a mass realization it will work out, so I was working all the years in a subtle way on the Kundalini of people, what is the problem, what are the permutations and combinations that will work out and once it worked out I started my work Question: unclear Shri Mataji: that’s what I am going to work it out for you. That’s a power within you in the triangular bone called as sacrum, that means the Greeks knew it was a sacred bone and there's a power, exact power which is coiled up into three and a half coils, Kundalini means coils, and then she starts rising above, not the whole of it, like threads and nourishing your centres, passes through parasympathetic nervous system and opens your fontanelle bone area. But later on, you will know a lot about it once you have your self-realization Question: unclear Shri Mataji: laughing- it is just the question because you see it is better to know about yourself than about me but doesn’t matter that’s the human nature, I would say how did you become a human being. I was born like that Question: unclear Shri Mataji: I think, but they have not become still collective that’s why. Once you become collective all this goes away, finishes off. ___??__ our heritage is from the animal kingdom? and we inherit lots of things from them and we have to get rid of it and how do we do it in rising in our evolution becoming higher personalities Question: how does ego come in us and how does ego goes out of us Shri Mataji: that’s a very nice question that little boy has asked me, that how does it go. If there's darkness, how does your darkness goes, through the light. In the same way, when you get the light of your spirit the darkness goes away, all right Question: do you use parayana? Answer: no no no there is no need to do all that. alright. Parayana, standing on your head, not necessary. Afterwards, when you have got your realization to say, for example, and you have some problems on your chakras, then you may have to do some particular _____ but first, know what's wrong with you, and then maybe some of it, but so far no Sahaja Yogi's were asked to do parayana, little bit of it is alright, whatever is necessary for your lungs maybe, but everybody doing parayana, you know what happens to them Question: I struggle every day with dealings of my past and future and all that other stuff and I _____ meditation and when I take a look at myself I find I am uneasy with myself and I feel lost and I don't know what to do I continue to do meditation but I just don't want to look too deep inside myself I don't know what I'm trying to say here but I got these demons that you guys have spoken of and problems of other sorts but I deal with that every day and I feel lost and confused Shri Mataji: you are very honest I must say, that's the correct thing that's what happens, that if you do it that way it doesn't work out, now think of a candle which is not enlightened, by itself it cannot get enlightened, some other light has to enlighten it, In the same way, once you get your enlightenment you can enlighten many people also but without that enlightenment you try all these tricks nothing works out, so I am quite convinced that you will get it just now alright may God bless you Question: in your lecture, you have spoken of man evolving from the animal kingdom, That is what Darwin also said In his theory of evolution, if you agree with Darwin that man evolved from the animal, then at what stage does spirituality came to man, and what was the source, what is the originator of that spirituality infused into man Shri Mataji: there are two forces, one is we human beings coming out of the gross side and the another is spirituality which comes from great prophets and incarnations who have talked about it But somehow or the other human beings have also used them also for their own purpose, it is not their business and that's why there is a conflict, but once you become that, become that, then you know what is the reality, the point is we do not know the reality and that's why there is a quarrel, all right Question: I like what you said about taking the emphasis off money. I have this curiosity about how you can then do what you do and have this wonderful Center for this evening Shri Mataji: now the thing is like this, that Is for your self-realization you don't pay but for this, you have to pay, no doubt, but actually what has happened that so many have got realization now, that they collect money and take the hall on rent or something like that, but in the beginning, I used to pay for all that, I worked it out that way because we did not have so many Sahaja yogis, but now we have Sahaja Yogi's who contributed to getting this Hall and all these things, but most of the things they do it, which is not spiritual but is for you people to become spiritual Question: you are an enlightened person and you probably have some divine power, perhaps, and we are new to this spiritual divine power or the consciousness and was wondering whether you could help us like I hear about these chakras and centres, which I have not attained, how does one, do you have the power to help teach us or to help us to get enlightenment and receive this Shri Mataji: it is very kind of you to say that, it will happen just now right now after, your questioning is over, you'll get it, all right those who question are the people who use their mind too much and unless and until they settle down they cant get their realization Question: not clear and answer not clear. She is always alright, you don’t have to do anything about it. but there is a centre which is below it, and which is guiding it, what Christ has said you have to become like children, you have to be innocent like children, so this innocence is within us, that looks after us, people have become so immoral and so much in defiance with love, that this chakra also sometimes doesn't act, but also with a little bit of understanding, you can convince the deity on this chakra, that you want to be a good person. if you have done any mistakes, if you have done any wrong, it is all forgiven at this stage, you don't have to worry because it is love, it's compassion, it wants to save the whole world, so it doesn't matter Question: a gentleman earlier talked about internal struggles, I will get a little bit more personal, sexuality does it impede the ability for self-realization Shri Mataji: no no whatever is natural, you should give in a natural way, this is all unnatural nonsense that is going on in the name of sexuality, natural thing is to be married to some ladies or some man and lead a perfect married life, perfect family life, that we have achieved in Sahaja yoga, we have achieved it, that joy we have achieved it, alright Question re be I commend you on your Nobel Peace Prize, I was wondering what your personal thoughts were on what is going on in India right now with their nuclear program and Pakistan Shri Mataji: Don’t pull me into politics (everyone cheering). That’s not important. All these things will work out for the better. Politics also works in such a manner it has nothing to do with spirituality, but when spiritual politics will start, things will work out very well I have already told you that I work in 72 nations, there are no quarrels no fights, we have seminars, we had recently a seminar in Canajoharie which is ___?__very close to Canada and I was so surprised they were all so happy so much enjoying each other, there were no quarrels no fights but just an enjoyment of love, so this question doesn’t arise after realization Question: I was just wondering if someone is in a stressful situation and they don’t have the opportunity to go and meditate or them don't have a chance to ________ what is the best on the spot way to raise their vibration so they can see it from Gods point of view as to point of view of society and in order to properly deal with problems Shri Mataji: as I have told you already it is your fundamental right, and if circumstances do not let you, the whole thing works out, automatically it works out, take all the opportunities I have seen many people who had these problems, but they work out, so believe in this power of love, how beautifully it works, alright, may God bless you Question: I just want to make a little comment, there was somebody who came up and made a comment about feeling lost and through my own life being down I felt the same and I have also learnt through this journey that whatever you have inside there is nothing to be afraid of because it is pure love, so I hope that you will bring somebody out there hope as it did for me Shri Mataji: you try Sahaja Yoga, that will solve your problem, alright Question: unclear Shri Mataji: (looks at the backdrop) oh I don’t see this one is decoration you know. this is not chakras, this is just decoration made by people which I had not even seen, now I will see that. You see everything you see, but why don’t you see the point (cheering) Question: once you reach that point what do you do then? Shri Mataji: now just now you be prepared for it, alright. You should accept it when it happens to you, alright. We keep it that way. Now there are still some questions Question: on the path to self-realization and inner peace, is it normal to feel very alone and helpless (rest unclear) at a low point before they reach a higher point. Is there a way to overcome pain (unclear) Shri Mataji: here now it will be like a sprouting of a seed, and it has to grow, like a tree but we have here very nice Sahaja yogis who will help you, so it's a very simple meditation that helps you, and people have become masters in one months time as I have told you, maximum Question unclear Shri Mataji: I’ll be coming, I’ll be definitely coming (cheering) thank you very much for the invite. You see temples, gurudwaras, churches, all these are meant for introducing spirituality, and that’s not the end of it. what is the end? end of it is to know it was love, to become spiritually endowed, that's why the whole thing is, but it didn’t work out that way because people become mental. Everything becomes mental. I am saying you have to go beyond your mental personality. For that you have to have Kundalini awakening, alright Question: how do I achieve ascension in this lifetime Shri Mataji: of course, yes, I am here for that only, alright, just now you will feel better. I am going to give you the experience, actually, it is your own Kundalini which is going to rise and you all are going to become that, alright, thank you for saying that Question unclear Shri Mataji: alright, I have understood, now this is what I am trying to tell you, whatever you have done so far, just ask the question what have I achieved, have I got the true knowledge, have I got the reality before me, no, that’s the fact, let us face it for you good and for understanding that, so far I haven’t got it. whatever you have done I am not going to condemn ______ but sometimes if you have done the wrong type of things it might hinder your realization but still, it works out because Kundalini is your pure desire. That is the reflection of the pure desire of God Almighty within you, and that is your pure desire, all other desires are false. Supposing you want to buy a car, you go and buy the car, you are not satisfied, then you want to build a house, then you are not satisfied, then you want to buy an aeroplane, I don’t know it goes on and on, you are never satisfied in life, that is the principle of economics in modern ____ you never get satisfied you never enjoy for which you have worked so hard ________ but a pure desire within you is to become the spirit, when it happens _____ your desires are fulfilled. It is very surprising how it works within you with your own _____ But firstly you must have love for others, it is not selfishness I am teaching you, but have respect because you have such potential, you don’t know what you have, please just respect yourself and find out how far you can go, and help others. Now I think we stop questioning because half of the people are already gone. We should now have the self-realization session, alright, agreed? (cheering) Please be seated all of you. Please be seated, wherever you are it is alright, not necessary that you should be close to me or away from me, its all over, its all-pervading power, so please be seated, that's all you should do. So first of all as I told you, you should not feel guilty for anything, whatever wrong that has been done and one should know that you should not ponder over is any longer because you are just making yourself miserable for nothing at all, but on a subtle way you catch on the centre on the left-hand side which can give you spondylitis, can give you angina, very serious thing to feel guilty after all if you were guilty you would be in jail why are you here, so please have a very pleasant attitude towards yourself, not to feel guilty that’s very important, and secondly, you have to forgive all those people who you don't want to forgive or find it difficult, just say that I forgive, because logically if you don’t forgive anyone what do you do, nothing. You carry on with the malice and you go on suffering, and the person who has tortured you is quite happy, but you are the one who is suffering because you hate him or maybe all this kind of feelings you have, so forgive everyone, just forgive very important, just forgive. As it is when you feel guilty, you are not forgiving yourself, so you forgive everyone else and forgive also yourself. just forgive it is a very beautiful thing to do is to forgive, and with forgiveness what happens is this centre which is very constricted, opens out easily and you get your realisation no doubt so just forgive, what is there to carry on with this. In love I don’t want to see you people suffer because of something mythical, Let us forget it, let us forget. Now there's another thing I have to request you to take out your shoes if possible because mother earth helps us a lot. Please just take out your shoes. then those who do not want to have self-realization should leave the hall because those who are going to get it you should not watch them and put your attention to them but it is a question of your attention, your attention-getting enlightened, so please if you don’t want you can leave the hall, thank you. Now what you have to do is put both the hands like this (palms up) little higher (by chest). Now, please put your right hand towards Me and bend your head and see for yourself if there is a cool or hot breeze coming out of your fontanelle bone area. (using left hand) A little away from your head, move your hand, is there is a cool or hot breeze coming out of your head. It is hot because, either you have not forgiven yourself or you have not forgiven others. Now please put your left hand towards me again, bend your head and see with your right hand, is there a cool or hot breeze coming out of your head, out of your fontanelle bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Move your hand and see for yourself, don’t doubt yourself, don’t doubt, please don’t doubt, have faith in yourself, see for yourself it will work out. Now please put both hands towards me like this again and don't think, just don't think, any thoughts that come, say not this, not this, just don't think. I hope you have put both the feet apart from each other. Now just don’t think, just don’t think. Now put both the hands towards the sky like this (Shri Mataji raises her hands towards the sky palms facing the room in front) and ask the question. One of these 3 questions you ask only once thrice? Firstly ask the question- is this the cool breeze of the holy ghost, ask a question, ask this question 3 times or you can ask, Mother, is this the all-pervading power of divine love, ask this question 3 times, now, ask the question 3 times again or Mother is this the paramchaitanya or is this the rhu, ask this question 3 times. Now please put down your hands. Please put your hands like this (in front towards her) and see if there is a cool or hot breeze coming on your fingertips or on your thumb or out of your fontanelle bone area, just see for yourself, just like this (hands in front of her). anywhere, anywhere either on your fingertips or on your palm or on your fontanelle bone area, wherever, just put your hands like this (in front). Don’t doubt yourself, that’s the main point, don’t doubt yourself, you all can get it, you all can get it, please don’t doubt yourself, have respect for yourself, have love for yourself, understand, you are human beings made to be higher human beings that’s what you have to be, just put your hands like this (in front). All those who have felt the cool or hot breeze on their fingertips or on the palm or on top of their fontanelle bone area, this is the actualization of baptism you can call it, and if so please raise both your hands. May God bless you, Oh my God, May God bless you. Despite all the questions you'll have got it now, you can feel it around you, this is what it is, the first time you are feeling it, but now don't doubt it, please. But it is there, it is there. Now how to grow, how to become one great soul, you have to little bit practice as these people will tell you if there are any problems in your chakras, please do it, they won't tell you which chakras, your hands will speak, they will tell you, that you are catching on this or you are catching on that, that’s all needs to be cleared out and it will all work out very well I am sure, with all my love, with all my compassion, I want to bless you all with the return of joy. May God bless you. I think they will sing a song, so you should clap your hands so these vibrations, cool vibrations we can call them the divine power will very much be more sensitive on your hands, so let them sing one song. This is the song which they want to sing, was composed by Namadeva, so many years back, and its sung all over Maharashtra, but they don’t know what is the meaning of this, he says, that oh Mother give me the yoga, they say they that want to know that I have give up all non-sensical things, I have given up all these six enemies, as the six enemies we have, and now you give me your realization, so he says by raising my Kundalini in the centre, by raising my Kundalini you have given me the realization. The Great poet Namadeva has sung this but people did not understand the meaning so much in our religion now, of course, we have so many of them who have got their self-realization so asking for yoga. This is written in Marathi language but when he went to Punjab, Guru Nanak asked him to write it in the Punjabi language, and such a big book he has written such a big book. Guru Nanaka was very very intelligent, he got all the great poems and things from all the realized souls and put them together, that’s his Granth Sahib. (Jogwa being sung) May God Bless you, may God bless you all. I hope that you will go to the followup and whatever correction is needed you will do it and you will be established Sahaja yoga. Next year I hope to come back again and I meet you again as realized souls. May God Bless You. Followup program details are given

1999-06-26 Public Program in Vancouver I am delighted to convey my warmest greetings to everyone celebrating the arrival of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi in Canada. I would also like to join with you in welcoming such a distinguished visitor to our country. Canadians take great pride in our individuality and at the same time are unified by our shared ideals and values. The preservation and enhancement of heritage and culture are unique to Canada’s vision of nationhood. This special occasion provides you with an opportunity to honour your faith and promote understanding through the reaffirmation of tradition. Please accept my best wishes for a most enjoyable and memorable experience, Jean Chretien, The Prime Minister of Canada. Shri Mataji I would also like to read a greeting from the Premier of British Columbia, Glen Clark. I am pleased to extend warm greetings to our holiness Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi and everyone attending the 1999 World Peace tour. Welcome to the city of Vancouver. British Columbia is a multicultural society that encourages people from around the world to retain the heritage, customs, and traditions of their native lands. This special visit by Shri Mataji is an excellent way to celebrate the integration of our diverse cultures and religions. I would like to take this opportunity to commend event organizers for the role they play in the promotion of a greater understanding of the traditions of India and the benefits of seeking inner peace. On behalf of the government and the people of British Columbia, please accept my best wishes for a successful evening, Glen Park, Premier. Shri Mataji accepts framed item and says thank you Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of truth. I was surprised in the West there is so much of seeking. People have gone very far seeking the truth. But one must know what is the truth is, what are we seeking after all because so many are lost and I feel so sorry that it has gone beyond any redemption. When they are seeking what they are seeking is the inner peace as they said but it is not only inner peace that you achieve, what you get is the self-knowledge, to begin with. Self-knowledge is the one by which we know ourselves. Now, do we know ourselves? We do not, that’s why all of them have said that know thyself. In the seeking we read books, we go to different places and what we find is that there is no proper guidance and no proper help for people to seek the truth. It is very unfortunate I feel that such good souls are lost because of wrong ideas. So the first thing that you have to do is to establish peace within yourself. You must know that our creator who has created us and who has brought us to this level of human awareness, himself, is anxious to give you the self-knowledge, the last breakthrough of your evolution. But as it is if you see in this in our evolution though we have become human beings we are still having some lingering effects of our past and that’s how you find people are so aggressive, so cruel sometimes, so much of that animal instinct within us working and we don’t understand why, why is it and then we realize that there is something missing in us and what is that we have to find out. We go to religions also but you have seen that religion is no more the real religion in the sense it has become power-oriented or money-oriented. These are all superficial things and of human awareness. There should be no power orientation and no money orientation because God doesn't understand this kind of power and also the money part. Because of this, religions have lost their basics and those basics are lost in such a manner that we don’t realize that these people are up to something really violent and sometimes very mean as far as God is concerned. How could there be a quarrel between different religions when they worship the same God. This power about what people have told you about, the Kundalini, which exists in our triangular bone. This power exists in every human being, every human being has got this power, whether you are black white yellow green blue or anything, whether you belong to America or to Canada or to India anywhere, they all have got this power within you to give you your self-realization. Unless and until you get the self-realization what happens with you is that you cannot get to the real point of yoga means union with the divine. You see all these flowers here, such beautiful flowers you have, you don't even think how they are created, how they are differentiated so beautifully, we are not bothered, we take all living process as granted but if you think about it you will be surprised that it is done so beautifully, so well organized, so who does this, who does this work and if I say it is done by the all-pervading power of divine love, you need not believe me, you have to feel it for the first time, this all-pervading power that is surrounding us is all over and does all our living work, for example, if you ask a doctor who runs our heart, he will say it is autonomous nervous system. But who is the auto behind it? We have to know that there is a power that works all these things, does all these things which are natural, but so far we have never been able to find out what is that power in it which of course I am sure tonight you are all going to feel it. You must have the experience, no use talking about big big things or without any experience of this power which surrounds us. It is in all scriptures it is described. The Christian religion it is described as the cool breeze of the holy ghost, in the Hindu religion it is called ‘saeelum, saeelum’ by Adi Shankarya, it is also talked about in the Islamic religion as ‘rhue', so in all religions, they are talking about the same power which surrounds us and does all living work. It is very amazing how they have overlooked the point which is so common in all of them. Of course, because of these incarnations and these prophets coming at different times, it is little bit, apparently, it looks different but it is not, it is actually absolutely basically the same, the roots are the same, the tree is the same only when we see all these trees you start thinking may be different, it is not. So the whole basis is one and there is no need to fight, there is no need to condemn anyone but just to see the oneness, oneness of the whole world and you will be amazed that it is such a big thing that we have within us that we become a global personality. Who is the other after all, who is the other? When you become the global personality they call it the new awareness called as the collective consciousness. So you become collective. When this Kundalini rises through these six centres these six centres are responsible for your physical, mental, and emotional being. They look after all these things, apart from that it is for our spiritual being also. So when this Kundalini rises she passes through these centres and she nourishes them, she nourishes them, she integrates them and we become really enlightened. Because our spirit which is in our heart, also starts emitting light in our attention. Our attention becomes enlightened. Through our attention we can make out, we can find out, what is wrong with our centres. We have first of all no ideas of having any centres within us Now all of them have talked about it, its nothing new I am telling you, only thing is that now this happening is taking place en mass, for all the people it is working out because it had to. If we have to get rid of all the nonsense that surrounds us, all the artificiality that kills us and all the wrong things that are shown everywhere, then we have to become higher personalities. These human weaknesses which are coming from our heritage of being animals still there. The difference is that human beings can think, they can think, they can react, while the animals don’t think and this thinking gets us into lots of nonsense. So thinking, thinking, thinking we go mad and reach nowhere. This instrument of thinking is not such a reliable thing. It has no credibility. So far it has shown no results but still, we depend on our thinking. So what happens when the Kundalini rises, she passes through these chakras, what we call the centres, and pieces through the fontanelle bone area which is the soft bone of your childhood and connects you to this all-pervading power of divine love. Then you become one, one with the divine love and this love starts moving through you. All this power that you get is of love and compassion. It is not the power that agresses, that shows your animal behaviour but a special superior personality, and once that happens you are amazed how much you can do, you can feel your own centres on your fingertips, then you can feel also the centres of others on your fingertips. Mohammed Sahib has said that at the time of resurrection your hands will speak, that’s what they speak and they give witness against you as they said that means they tell you what's wrong with you actually, and you accept it because you know in the light of the spirit that this is all destructive, this is wrong and once you accept it if you know how to cure it, you just cure it and you want to be completely cured. Whether you go to China or to Japan or you go anywhere else in every religion, say, Islam, Sikhism, Hinduism, Christianity anywhere, they have talked about self-knowledge. All of them have talked about self-knowledge and you cant pay for it, it’s a living process of your growth, you cant pay for it, once you know you can't pay for it then you will understand that money is needed by human beings, God does not understand. It’s a living process and for any living process you can't pay, for example, you cant pay for running your heart, you cant pay for___?__, nothing you can do, I mean they don’t understand money is madness, so you have to get your realization is the main point and everybody has said the same thing, there is nothing new I am telling you. Only thing I am trying to show is oneness of the whole so that it’s a global innate religion within us which tells us what we have to have. What should we achieve and that achievement is very important. If you want to have a mind that wants to quarrel, fight and all that, that mind becomes absolutely silent and peaceful. How it happens is very surprising, that when we are thinking, there are waves of thoughts, and when we are standing in the waves of an ocean we are afraid, we don’t know what will happen, first we decide to do this way or that way, but supposing you are in a boat, then you look at those waves and enjoy them, not only that but afterwards if you become a good swimmer you can go dive down and save many people. This exactly what happens, that you become master of your own and you know what is this power is, and how to use it to emancipate human beings. I wouldn't say that man, human beings have to be transformed because that will challenge them, but I would say you have to blossom, you have to evolve and your fragrance has to spread, all over the world. This is not at all difficult, Sahaj also means spontaneous, also it means born with you, saha means with ja born, born with you is the spirit. You have a birthright to get your self-realization. Its absolutely a thing granted to us by our creator, the __?___. Even scientists like Einstein have talked about it, that you have to go into an area which he called at tortion area. In that tortion area according to him, you get ideas which are genuine, truthful, and one can work on them so beautifully that they all turn out to be truthful, like when he was searching his theory of relativity, he was working his lab for hours together, days together, then he got fed up, and then he says he was sitting in his garden playing with the bubbles, soap bubbles, like a child, and from somewhere, from somewhere unknown, he says the theory of relativity dawned upon him. What is that unknown place he called it a tortion area, but tortion area is what we call is the area of the all-pervading power of divine love. Now this theory of divine love, whatever they have talked about divine love has to be actualized. Actually, if it doesn’t happen we still roam about, float about with something artificial, words are words, these words have to become reality and how do they become reality is, by becoming a self knowledgeable, a self-realized soul. This is a very very important point we are missing and that’s why the world is topsy turvy, that's why we have problems in this world. We have problems in our personal lives, we have problems in the cities and we have in the countries and above all in the whole world. All these problems can be easily solved, when we all get our self-realization. I have now been working for so many years and what I find is that people are just ready to get it. Maybe in the olden days, they were not so much ready and also there was a tradition that realization should be given at most to the one person. Maybe because of that it didn't work ou,t but today people are born to get realization. They have been searching all these things may be in last lives, many years and today is the time for them to get it. And for that, you don't have to give up anything. This idea of giving up is absolutely wrong and false. What do we get is give up wife, give up your husband, give up your children, give up all your property, to whom? To whom do you give this? What is there to give up? If inside yourself there is complete renunciation, if a temperament of renunciation is within you whether you are a king or anything else you are full of joy, you are a joy-giving personality and you live in joy and you enjoy everyone, that is the situation which you have to achieve and which is very easy for you all of you to achieve it. there is no end to it, I can go on talking for years together and I have but what I am saying the best thing to go beyond words and to get your self-realization. We have to go in between to see the subtle side of all the sayings of the great prophets and saints, unless and until we see that, we are absolutely on a gross level and this gross level has to go otherwise our world cannot change. Luckily Sahaja Yoga is so working in 72 countries, very surprising. Out of that Russia is the best, of course, India is there because in India traditionally they know we must get our nirvana, we must get our self-realization so it is different. But Russia is the place where there was no freedom of any kind, they never knew about God, never knew about spirituality, but because of the operation on them, of the Kundalini they dove deep into themselves that I am amazed how Russians have taken to Sahaja Yoga, thousands and thousands and millions and millions of Sahaja yogis are in Russia and they are in the most enjoyable position. They had a coup when I was there so I asked them aren't you worried about the coup that you are having, said mother why should we worry we are in the kingdom of God, why should we worry, so that's what has to happen to you all, you all deserve it. so one thing is there not to feel guilty about anything, not to worry about all these things, but to get your self-realization. That's something so great once it happens you will be amazed how many things can work out. I have seen people getting very creative in Sahaja yoga. Ordinary people have risen to such heights of creativity of beauty of simple and very magnanimous behaviour towards art, music. They are also extremely moral. I don’t have to tell them don’t do this don’t do that, I never tell them because if I tell them half of them will walk off but you better take your realization, automatically you become so beautiful and so much enjoying yourself and others, that you don’t want you do not want any more of those conflicts that are existing, so it is very simple as I told you, the yoga is union with the divine, and we talk of divine but we don’t know what is divine is, what is unity, for that you have to rise up to that level of super human beings I should say, by which you will know what is divinity and all kinds of greed and grabbing and domination not only that,,also the depressions and aggressed temperament, all that drops out and you become the most I should say joyous personality, very joyous full of joy and your age also doesn’t tell about you, you must be knowing my age, I am over 77 years of age and it doesn’t work on me, just time is passing like this and it never works on me, so in the same way you don’t have to worry about your age and about your illnesses, because it cures yours, these centers are responsible, all of them are responsible for looking after your physical being. Once they are enlightened, you get absolutely surprisingly cured by your own power, you don’t have to go to the hospital, you don’t have to pay money or anything, you just get cured, and that is what happens, unbelievable, we have a hospital also in India, never Bombay, where I was surprised at the results how Sahaja yoga has worked wonders, in 2, 3 days patients are out of the hospital and enjoying themselves, same with the drug addictions which is one of your biggest problems, overnight people give up drugs, overnight all such things which are destructive just happens, I don’t do anything, it is your own Kundalini which is your mother, she is your individual mother, just like a tape recorder she knows everything about you, she knows what's wrong you have done, what are your problems and what are your aspirations, she knows everything and once she becomes one with the divine power, she works it out. Moreover, also there are many books written about Kundalini saying that if there is Kundalini awakening, you get these symptoms that symptoms, all these years of my work I haven't seen anyone suffering from any one of these symptoms because must be something wrong they do. Kundalini is your own mother and she wants you to become a realized soul, one with this all-pervading power, and once that happens you yourself realize how kindly, how softly, how sweetly it has risen, you never felt anything, any kind of trouble __??__. So I am here to tell you about your potential. What potential you have is free, you don’t have to spend money for it you don’t have to do anything stand on your head, give up this give up that all that nonsense is out. Its something inside that happens, and you become a personality which is absolutely surprisingly in the super __?__ all this is within you, I don't have to do anything much about it, it all works and I am sure, I am sure tonight you are all going to become one with it, in any case, I would like to have some questions from you because the mind is going on of some people, so I would like to have some questions. If you have any questions please ask. Well, that is something that if there is something lingering in your head then __?__. You can raise your hand if you want to have a question Question unclear Shri Mataji: the question is alright, that once you become realized soul, then why do you come down. The problem is in your chakras, still, there are problems, supposing somebody has a liver, the Kundalini is your mother, she is very kind and affectionate so she tries to go back there, again to treat the liver, from whatever problems you have in your chakras she treats, it takes time, about within a months time you can become a master, no doubt, but why it happens because still, you have not been meditating, you are not working it out, it is for you to work it out and permanently it will be there. There are so many, even in your Vancouver who are there now settled nicely. So everybody can do it. it can be any kind of ignorance you had, you start thinking, finding out whether it is true or not or something doubting yourself. Then you also sometimes feel guilty for nothing at all. I mean in the west I find people are always guilty for any small nonsensical thing. Supposing some coffee spills, they feel guilty for all their lives. See all these things ___?__ our society who have funny norms, go on worrying about it and that’s how we lose our that state. but it is there, always there, but the effect of it is reduced so best is to pay attention to yourself and meditate and you are always there, there's no hurt? Question: unclear Shri Mataji: to become divine, simple, that’s the question, to be frank within us what is the purpose of human life is to become divine, part and parcel of __?__. Now supposing you are a father, what do you want your son to become? Happy enjoyable, and also a responsible person. You always want that for your children, then your great father what does he want from you, he wants you to be happy, joyous people. Out of ignorance, you are not that, so he wants to remove that ignorance, this is the purpose of our life Question: unclear Shri Mataji: absolutely its absolutely curable. It comes out of your imbalance and with that, it can get completely cured. Except for, I have seen it works for everything except for this AIDS business because these patients of AIDS are extremely aggressive and they don’t want to take anything, and they are so angry because they think they have a right to kill others who torture others who get angry with others for what, we tried our hand on this AIDS, but these people are funny you know, they don’t know they are going to die tomorrow, they should be little humble Question: unclear Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi (translation: Hindustani asks the most questions, they ask lots of questions). it is based on all the religions, whatever the religion it is, you take any one of them they have said seek within yourself, who has not said if it is not a lecture? Question: I have read in different descriptions about people have raised ___?__ and they talked about how dangerous it was and how careful one has to be. I am interested in how differences in the way that you teach it Shri Mataji: I have already told you that many people have written that Kundalini is something a bad thing, you know anything ___?__ whichever is written, now that’s the trouble of your ignorance, it is not, it is not, its absolutely wrong, absolutely wrong, it is only just to make money, you see people do all kinds. I would say like guru Nanaka, he has written Granth Sahib and clearly, clearly he has said, it is written that once you __?__ Sahasrara, absolutely written down in everything, but problem is that people are doing a diverse ideas, maybe money making, I don’t know why they do it when they have no idea, they have no authority Question: Mataji human beings should use vegetarian food Shri Mataji: nothing of that kind, whatever suits your body you should take, we don’t have all these nonsensical ideas that you eat this, why eating only, but whatever suits you, if you need proteins, you take proteins, if you need vegetables you eat that, it’s the body whatever it requires you should take. All this you don’t eat this you don’t eat that I cant understand Question: unclear Shri Mataji: pituitary gland? Calcified, oh can be, one should try, if it is calcified it takes time but can be helped Question: Mother with the risk of sounding personal, not trying to, what happened personally for you that made you realize that this is __?__ way to go Shri Mataji: I will answer this question very simple, how do you know, when did you know you were a human being, in the same way, I was born and I knew I had all these things in me, but I didn't do it anything till 47 years of age I didn't start my work, I stayed quiet, I was trying to find out how to give en masse realization. Supposing I give realization to one person he will be tortured, they will all get after my life, they may crucify me, they do anything because people don’t like anyone like that, so I said if you have a mass realization it will work out, so I was working all the years in a subtle way on the Kundalini of people, what is the problem, what are the permutations and combinations that will work out and once it worked out I started my work Question: unclear Shri Mataji: that’s what I am going to work it out for you. That’s a power within you in the triangular bone called as sacrum, that means the Greeks knew it was a sacred bone and there's a power, exact power which is coiled up into three and a half coils, Kundalini means coils, and then she starts rising above, not the whole of it, like threads and nourishing your centres, passes through parasympathetic nervous system and opens your fontanelle bone area. But later on, you will know a lot about it once you have your self-realization Question: unclear Shri Mataji: laughing- it is just the question because you see it is better to know about yourself than about me but doesn’t matter that’s the human nature, I would say how did you become a human being. I was born like that Question: unclear Shri Mataji: I think, but they have not become still collective that’s why. Once you become collective all this goes away, finishes off. ___??__ our heritage is from the animal kingdom? and we inherit lots of things from them and we have to get rid of it and how do we do it in rising in our evolution becoming higher personalities Question: how does ego come in us and how does ego goes out of us Shri Mataji: that’s a very nice question that little boy has asked me, that how does it go. If there's darkness, how does your darkness goes, through the light. In the same way, when you get the light of your spirit the darkness goes away, all right Question: do you use parayana? Answer: no no no there is no need to do all that. alright. Parayana, standing on your head, not necessary. Afterwards, when you have got your realization to say, for example, and you have some problems on your chakras, then you may have to do some particular _____ but first, know what's wrong with you, and then maybe some of it, but so far no Sahaja Yogi's were asked to do parayana, little bit of it is alright, whatever is necessary for your lungs maybe, but everybody doing parayana, you know what happens to them Question: I struggle every day with dealings of my past and future and all that other stuff and I _____ meditation and when I take a look at myself I find I am uneasy with myself and I feel lost and I don't know what to do I continue to do meditation but I just don't want to look too deep inside myself I don't know what I'm trying to say here but I got these demons that you guys have spoken of and problems of other sorts but I deal with that every day and I feel lost and confused Shri Mataji: you are very honest I must say, that's the correct thing that's what happens, that if you do it that way it doesn't work out, now think of a candle which is not enlightened, by itself it cannot get enlightened, some other light has to enlighten it, In the same way, once you get your enlightenment you can enlighten many people also but without that enlightenment you try all these tricks nothing works out, so I am quite convinced that you will get it just now alright may God bless you Question: in your lecture, you have spoken of man evolving from the animal kingdom, That is what Darwin also said In his theory of evolution, if you agree with Darwin that man evolved from the animal, then at what stage does spirituality came to man, and what was the source, what is the originator of that spirituality infused into man Shri Mataji: there are two forces, one is we human beings coming out of the gross side and the another is spirituality which comes from great prophets and incarnations who have talked about it But somehow or the other human beings have also used them also for their own purpose, it is not their business and that's why there is a conflict, but once you become that, become that, then you know what is the reality, the point is we do not know the reality and that's why there is a quarrel, all right Question: I like what you said about taking the emphasis off money. I have this curiosity about how you can then do what you do and have this wonderful Center for this evening Shri Mataji: now the thing is like this, that Is for your self-realization you don't pay but for this, you have to pay, no doubt, but actually what has happened that so many have got realization now, that they collect money and take the hall on rent or something like that, but in the beginning, I used to pay for all that, I worked it out that way because we did not have so many Sahaja yogis, but now we have Sahaja Yogi's who contributed to getting this Hall and all these things, but most of the things they do it, which is not spiritual but is for you people to become spiritual Question: you are an enlightened person and you probably have some divine power, perhaps, and we are new to this spiritual divine power or the consciousness and was wondering whether you could help us like I hear about these chakras and centres, which I have not attained, how does one, do you have the power to help teach us or to help us to get enlightenment and receive this Shri Mataji: it is very kind of you to say that, it will happen just now right now after, your questioning is over, you'll get it, all right those who question are the people who use their mind too much and unless and until they settle down they cant get their realization Question: not clear and answer not clear. She is always alright, you don’t have to do anything about it. but there is a centre which is below it, and which is guiding it, what Christ has said you have to become like children, you have to be innocent like children, so this innocence is within us, that looks after us, people have become so immoral and so much in defiance with love, that this chakra also sometimes doesn't act, but also with a little bit of understanding, you can convince the deity on this chakra, that you want to be a good person. if you have done any mistakes, if you have done any wrong, it is all forgiven at this stage, you don't have to worry because it is love, it's compassion, it wants to save the whole world, so it doesn't matter Question: a gentleman earlier talked about internal struggles, I will get a little bit more personal, sexuality does it impede the ability for self-realization Shri Mataji: no no whatever is natural, you should give in a natural way, this is all unnatural nonsense that is going on in the name of sexuality, natural thing is to be married to some ladies or some man and lead a perfect married life, perfect family life, that we have achieved in Sahaja yoga, we have achieved it, that joy we have achieved it, alright Question re be I commend you on your Nobel Peace Prize, I was wondering what your personal thoughts were on what is going on in India right now with their nuclear program and Pakistan Shri Mataji: Don’t pull me into politics (everyone cheering). That’s not important. All these things will work out for the better. Politics also works in such a manner it has nothing to do with spirituality, but when spiritual politics will start, things will work out very well I have already told you that I work in 72 nations, there are no quarrels no fights, we have seminars, we had recently a seminar in Canajoharie which is ___?__very close to Canada and I was so surprised they were all so happy so much enjoying each other, there were no quarrels no fights but just an enjoyment of love, so this question doesn’t arise after realization Question: I was just wondering if someone is in a stressful situation and they don’t have the opportunity to go and meditate or them don't have a chance to ________ what is the best on the spot way to raise their vibration so they can see it from Gods point of view as to point of view of society and in order to properly deal with problems Shri Mataji: as I have told you already it is your fundamental right, and if circumstances do not let you, the whole thing works out, automatically it works out, take all the opportunities I have seen many people who had these problems, but they work out, so believe in this power of love, how beautifully it works, alright, may God bless you Question: I just want to make a little comment, there was somebody who came up and made a comment about feeling lost and through my own life being down I felt the same and I have also learnt through this journey that whatever you have inside there is nothing to be afraid of because it is pure love, so I hope that you will bring somebody out there hope as it did for me Shri Mataji: you try Sahaja Yoga, that will solve your problem, alright Question: unclear Shri Mataji: (looks at the backdrop) oh I don’t see this one is decoration you know. this is not chakras, this is just decoration made by people which I had not even seen, now I will see that. You see everything you see, but why don’t you see the point (cheering) Question: once you reach that point what do you do then? Shri Mataji: now just now you be prepared for it, alright. You should accept it when it happens to you, alright. We keep it that way. Now there are still some questions Question: on the path to self-realization and inner peace, is it normal to feel very alone and helpless (rest unclear) at a low point before they reach a higher point. Is there a way to overcome pain (unclear) Shri Mataji: here now it will be like a sprouting of a seed, and it has to grow, like a tree but we have here very nice Sahaja yogis who will help you, so it's a very simple meditation that helps you, and people have become masters in one months time as I have told you, maximum Question unclear Shri Mataji: I’ll be coming, I’ll be definitely coming (cheering) thank you very much for the invite. You see temples, gurudwaras, churches, all these are meant for introducing spirituality, and that’s not the end of it. what is the end? end of it is to know it was love, to become spiritually endowed, that's why the whole thing is, but it didn’t work out that way because people become mental. Everything becomes mental. I am saying you have to go beyond your mental personality. For that you have to have Kundalini awakening, alright Question: how do I achieve ascension in this lifetime Shri Mataji: of course, yes, I am here for that only, alright, just now you will feel better. I am going to give you the experience, actually, it is your own Kundalini which is going to rise and you all are going to become that, alright, thank you for saying that Question unclear Shri Mataji: alright, I have understood, now this is what I am trying to tell you, whatever you have done so far, just ask the question what have I achieved, have I got the true knowledge, have I got the reality before me, no, that’s the fact, let us face it for you good and for understanding that, so far I haven’t got it. whatever you have done I am not going to condemn ______ but sometimes if you have done the wrong type of things it might hinder your realization but still, it works out because Kundalini is your pure desire. That is the reflection of the pure desire of God Almighty within you, and that is your pure desire, all other desires are false. Supposing you want to buy a car, you go and buy the car, you are not satisfied, then you want to build a house, then you are not satisfied, then you want to buy an aeroplane, I don’t know it goes on and on, you are never satisfied in life, that is the principle of economics in modern ____ you never get satisfied you never enjoy for which you have worked so hard ________ but a pure desire within you is to become the spirit, when it happens _____ your desires are fulfilled. It is very surprising how it works within you with your own _____ But firstly you must have love for others, it is not selfishness I am teaching you, but have respect because you have such potential, you don’t know what you have, please just respect yourself and find out how far you can go, and help others. Now I think we stop questioning because half of the people are already gone. We should now have the self-realization session, alright, agreed? (cheering) Please be seated all of you. Please be seated, wherever you are it is alright, not necessary that you should be close to me or away from me, its all over, its all-pervading power, so please be seated, that's all you should do. So first of all as I told you, you should not feel guilty for anything, whatever wrong that has been done and one should know that you should not ponder over is any longer because you are just making yourself miserable for nothing at all, but on a subtle way you catch on the centre on the left-hand side which can give you spondylitis, can give you angina, very serious thing to feel guilty after all if you were guilty you would be in jail why are you here, so please have a very pleasant attitude towards yourself, not to feel guilty that’s very important, and secondly, you have to forgive all those people who you don't want to forgive or find it difficult, just say that I forgive, because logically if you don’t forgive anyone what do you do, nothing. You carry on with the malice and you go on suffering, and the person who has tortured you is quite happy, but you are the one who is suffering because you hate him or maybe all this kind of feelings you have, so forgive everyone, just forgive very important, just forgive. As it is when you feel guilty, you are not forgiving yourself, so you forgive everyone else and forgive also yourself. just forgive it is a very beautiful thing to do is to forgive, and with forgiveness what happens is this centre which is very constricted, opens out easily and you get your realisation no doubt so just forgive, what is there to carry on with this. In love I don’t want to see you people suffer because of something mythical, Let us forget it, let us forget. Now there's another thing I have to request you to take out your shoes if possible because mother earth helps us a lot. Please just take out your shoes. then those who do not want to have self-realization should leave the hall because those who are going to get it you should not watch them and put your attention to them but it is a question of your attention, your attention-getting enlightened, so please if you don’t want you can leave the hall, thank you. Now what you have to do is put both the hands like this (palms up) little higher (by chest). Now, please put your right hand towards Me and bend your head and see for yourself if there is a cool or hot breeze coming out of your fontanelle bone area. (using left hand) A little away from your head, move your hand, is there is a cool or hot breeze coming out of your head. It is hot because, either you have not forgiven yourself or you have not forgiven others. Now please put your left hand towards me again, bend your head and see with your right hand, is there a cool or hot breeze coming out of your head, out of your fontanelle bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Move your hand and see for yourself, don’t doubt yourself, don’t doubt, please don’t doubt, have faith in yourself, see for yourself it will work out. Now please put both hands towards me like this again and don't think, just don't think, any thoughts that come, say not this, not this, just don't think. I hope you have put both the feet apart from each other. Now just don’t think, just don’t think. Now put both the hands towards the sky like this (Shri Mataji raises her hands towards the sky palms facing the room in front) and ask the question. One of these 3 questions you ask only once thrice? Firstly ask the question- is this the cool breeze of the holy ghost, ask a question, ask this question 3 times or you can ask, Mother, is this the all-pervading power of divine love, ask this question 3 times, now, ask the question 3 times again or Mother is this the paramchaitanya or is this the rhu, ask this question 3 times. Now please put down your hands. Please put your hands like this (in front towards her) and see if there is a cool or hot breeze coming on your fingertips or on your thumb or out of your fontanelle bone area, just see for yourself, just like this (hands in front of her). anywhere, anywhere either on your fingertips or on your palm or on your fontanelle bone area, wherever, just put your hands like this (in front). Don’t doubt yourself, that’s the main point, don’t doubt yourself, you all can get it, you all can get it, please don’t doubt yourself, have respect for yourself, have love for yourself, understand, you are human beings made to be higher human beings that’s what you have to be, just put your hands like this (in front). All those who have felt the cool or hot breeze on their fingertips or on the palm or on top of their fontanelle bone area, this is the actualization of baptism you can call it, and if so please raise both your hands. May God bless you, Oh my God, May God bless you. Despite all the questions you'll have got it now, you can feel it around you, this is what it is, the first time you are feeling it, but now don't doubt it, please. But it is there, it is there. Now how to grow, how to become one great soul, you have to little bit practice as these people will tell you if there are any problems in your chakras, please do it, they won't tell you which chakras, your hands will speak, they will tell you, that you are catching on this or you are catching on that, that’s all needs to be cleared out and it will all work out very well I am sure, with all my love, with all my compassion, I want to bless you all with the return of joy. May God bless you. I think they will sing a song, so you should clap your hands so these vibrations, cool vibrations we can call them the divine power will very much be more sensitive on your hands, so let them sing one song. This is the song which they want to sing, was composed by Namadeva, so many years back, and its sung all over Maharashtra, but they don’t know what is the meaning of this, he says, that oh Mother give me the yoga, they say they that want to know that I have give up all non-sensical things, I have given up all these six enemies, as the six enemies we have, and now you give me your realization, so he says by raising my Kundalini in the centre, by raising my Kundalini you have given me the realization. The Great poet Namadeva has sung this but people did not understand the meaning so much in our religion now, of course, we have so many of them who have got their self-realization so asking for yoga. This is written in Marathi language but when he went to Punjab, Guru Nanak asked him to write it in the Punjabi language, and such a big book he has written such a big book. Guru Nanaka was very very intelligent, he got all the great poems and things from all the realized souls and put them together, that’s his Granth Sahib. (Jogwa being sung) May God Bless you, may God bless you all. I hope that you will go to the followup and whatever correction is needed you will do it and you will be established Sahaja yoga. Next year I hope to come back again and I meet you again as realized souls. May God Bless You. Followup program details are given

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Talk at the Hindu Temple (Hindi). Vancouver (Canada), 27 June 1999. Translation from Hindi: My salutations to the seekers of Truth. We go to the temples to see the God. And we want to achieve him. Not only that, we have several desires in our heart, which we think that god will fulfil. We go to Temples, for several reasons, thinking that the environment of that place will give us peace and satisfaction. It is true that all these things can happen, and that is the reason why temples have been constructed. But there is something beyond this which we should know and get. And the principles of this has been mentioned in our Hindu scriptures. But when we read something, we sometimes don't understand the meaning hidden inside that. Today, it is good that you have invited me in the temple of Shri Krishna, because Shri Krishna has an important place. When we talk about the awakening of kundalini, Shri Krishna has a very Prominent role in that. Nothing can be accomplished without him. Inside us, his place is situated at the back, below the neck. That is his place. Now, if it is really there or not, whatever I am saying is true or not, you should have a proof for that. You should not believe this just because I am saying so. That is why, when we come to Sahaja Yoga, what happens is that, the devine energy situated inside our triangular bone, which we call as Kundalini and which has been mentioned in all scriptures, it is not as if only I am saying so, when this energy is awakened, it passes through the 6 plexuses (chakras), the seventh chakra is situated below the Kundalini, Which is Ganesha's chakra. So it passes through the 6 chakras and pierces the fontanelle bone or brahmarandra, comes out and unites with the all pervading power of God's love, which is called as Param chaitanya in sanskrit. When this incident takes place, then we get connected to the ultimate energy (param shakti). Before that whatever we do, is to remember the god, remember our religion and to choose the right path. But after doing all these things, what next? Tomorrow, your children will ask you "why are you doing this. What is the use of doing this"? But, you will know the benefit of this, only when your kundalini awakens, and gets United with the all-pervading of God's love. And this is known as Sahaja because this is very simple. You know the meaning of Sahaja. But there is another meaning of this when it is split. "saha" means "with us" and "Ja" means "born". This is born with you. When our spirit unites with the all pervading power of God's love, that is the true yoga. This yoga is present in each one of us, and it is very simple. Whether you are a Hindu, a Muslim, or a Christian, whether you are white or Black, this kundalini energy is present inside every one of you. Then how can we say that we are separate? It is true that our Indian culture is great. There is something very unique about our culture. And because of this culture, we follow a specific norm. But, until we achieve the end of it, we will not get any happiness, we will not get any Joy. And, we will not get anything which we have been promised of. It was never difficult to awaken the Kundalini. But it has been observed that in olden days, due to some system or tradition, the Awakening of the Kundalini was passed on to a single person. Only one person could achieve that state. I feel, it is possible that people were scared that if anyone got self-realization, they might be tortured by others. You must have heard that in India, where the culture is so strong, every Incarnation, every devotee of God and not only that, also Saints were tortured by people. It is not known, why they were troubled, I don't understand what was the necessity to trouble them like this. But, something used to happen naturally that the saints could not survive in this world. You must have heard of Gyaneshwar ji. He was tortured so much by people that he attained his samadhi (permanent meditative state) at the age of 23. We troubled him so much that, he took his live samadhi, so young. The reason behind this was, People could never understand the subtle meaning of things, spoken by these saints. That is why, in our country also many such incidents took place, which is very disgraceful. We have tortured saints and seers very much because they were immersed in love. Their trust was unshakable, and on top of that they were always immersed in love, maybe due to this reason, they were not liked by the people. Anyways, whatever the reason was, it should be understood that, we all should achieve that precious thing. Today, in this Society, Sahaja Yoga is happening in 72 countries, but till now no such Problem has come that you are tortured because you have become a saint. But to become a saint, It is very wrong to give up anything. For example, when the Buddhism came into practice, people started this kind of things. But then, Adi Shankaracharya came in 6th century, and said it is unnecessary to give up anything. He himself was an ascetic, (sanyasi) because he had to work for the society. But he said, to drape yourself in a particular robe, or renunciate the world, which was happening in Buddhism, was wrong. You can achieve this by sitting in your own house and following your own lifestyle. Most of his writings were on Sahaja Yoga. And he said that when you achieve this, when this incident happens inside you, then you will get cool breeze which he described as "salilam, salilam". So like this he told that when the incident of kundalini awakening happens, then the All-pervading Power of God's love or vibrations, start flowing inside us and slowly we feel the cool breeze that is "salilam, salilam". Adi Shankaracharya, established the Hinduism, that is, he established the Hindu religion again, wrote maximum about Sahaja Yoga but no one bothers about it, or pays attention towards it. And he called vibrations as "spundh", the vibrations which flow from the hands, the same way they flow from the heart. All these things should happen inside us if we acknowledge him. If we acknowledge Hindu religion, then we should acknowledge Shri Shankaracharya also. He was great devotee of Devi, and we all are devotees of the Devi or Goddess. And I think, since no one paid attention towards it, and started talking unnecessary things like because of kundalini awakening, “This problem happens and that problem happens”, and “we face this kind of trouble and that kind of trouble”. This is a total false statement. Nothing like this happens. The God who made you, who made human, himself desired that you attain this kundalini Awakening. And this Kundalini is your own mother, your individual mother, she's your mother and she knows everything about you. You might have made some mistakes, you might be having some ambitions, you may want to become something, you might be having some dreams. To fulfil all these, this Kundalini is anxious to give you a rebirth. When she wants to give you so much, how can she trouble you? When you were born, it was the mother who took all your troubles. Were you troubled in anyway? This kind of wrong notions were spread among the people, and they were deprived and diverted from the reality. It is true that, I was born in a Christian family and we are the descendants of “Shalivahanas”. For some reason they had become Christians, but my mother and father both were great scholars in Sanskrit. They had done a lot of thinking on this language. There was nothing like leaving the religion for them, because there is a greater religion which we call as self-religion (swa dharma), and which was told by Shivaji Maharaj as "improve your swa dharma". What is 'swa'? 'Swa' is your Spirit. He told to "enhance the religion of your Spirit". The same thing about the 'swa dharma' was mentioned by my mother and father, that improve your "swa dharma". In this, "I am this or I am that" comes to an end, and we become global personalities. We are global. No one has asked us to be in limits. This is what my parents described, in our religion, that we should become global. They knew what was the purpose of my birth. But, they had told me that, "You don’t talk about it until you are able to give Realization in masses, in large-scale, as there is no use giving Realization to a single person. Only when you achieve this you talk about it otherwise this also will become another "Gita", or another "quran", and it will not get into the people's brain. And everyone will start doing wrong things and go hey-wire". And they had told that if this has to be proved, then first achieve this, and find out the way, by which the Kundalini awakening should happen in, not one person but several thousand people at a time. And in my 47 years, I have been doing research as to why Human cannot achieve this, where is the drawback in a human? What is the problem in every person? My father was a patriotic person. And he had connections with many people. He was member of Parliament, and he was the member of constitutional assembly. And because I was with him I came into contact with many people, and since I was a social person I used to see many people and I used to think what is the drawback in these people? Why their kundalini cannot be awakened? After that, my husband also was in kind of a job where I came in contact with lots of social gathering. In that kind of life I tried to find out what is the defect in a human being which is prohibiting him from achieving the self-realization? Later when I discovered that, by this kind of a gathering this can be achieved, then I started my work in the year 1970. In 1970, there was only one lady, who became my disciple. She was very old and she is no more but after that there were 12 disciples and after that it started increasing and today you can see that Sahaja Yoga is happening in 72 countries. It is not surprising that it has spread so well in India, because this is our heritage, and we have achieved it right from the beginning. In India several lakhs of people have achieved it before so I dont consider it great, but the amazing thing is in Russia, where people have not heard about God, who have never been to temples, who do not know the meaning of God, have achieved this realization in several numbers. How did this happen? I think it is because of the reason that due to the communism in Russia, people were supressed to a great extent. They were supressed to an extent that they lost their freedom completely. Because of which, they started seeking the truth within themselves. When I read their books, for example, books written by Tolstoy, I find that it is their nature to search their minds within themselves. And in a country like that, Sahaja Yoga has spread to a great extent. It had spread so well that we did not know how to handle so many people. We did not have any Russian with us. So we trained a Russian person, and taught him about Sahaja Yoga, so that he could translate, and after that we started getting letters after letters, enquiring about how to progress in Sahaja Yoga. Now, in this country you have freedom of all sort. The meaning of freedom is to know the mechanism of “thy self”, (swa ka tantra). That is, to know the mechanism of the spirit, is the true freedom. Without that what is freedom? ( Come to the front. come. Can you move a little bit? Can you hear my voice? has everyone come? done? Now my voice will reach out? All of you can come inside. what is there?) Sahaja yogis can go out. Let them come inside. You have heard me so many times. Please. You should not have called sahaja yogis. These people keep listening to me all the time. On top of that what are they going to understand in Hindi? [Mother talking in marathi and english] (If you call the sahaja yogis, this whole hall will be full.) So, I was talking to you about "swa dharma". Swa means "you, your Self". But you don't know what you are? You know your exterior. But, You do not know yourself from inside. That is why your Spirit should be awakened. Your Spirit should come to your attention. You will know your Self only when that happens. When you don't know your Self then, how do you say "I do this, I do that". Who is this I? You should know first who is this "I". And when you realize who this "I" is, then it is so astonishing to find that, like a drop in the ocean, we also vanish in the ocean of love. And that ocean, that All-pervading Power of love gives us everything. All our ambitions are fulfilled, and all our questions are answered. Only these vibrations have the power to do this. We do not have the power to do this, we can only become mad trying to find a solution. Everything becomes all right by these vibrations. For example, during the time of Shri Krishna, whatever he spoke in "Gita", to understand that also, you need to awaken your Spirit, according to me. First of all, Shri Krishna said, with devotion whatever you offer me, like flowers, fruits or water, I will accept it. And see, how he was playing with words. He knew that human beings are stupid and they can be fooled with words. He never used to speak simple words like me. He used to twist the words and talk. Then he said, by offering things what will you get? You will get the fruit, only when you offer with "ananya [unique] bhakti". He played his trick on that word "ananya". A common man cannot understand the meaning of "ananya". Ananya is something, where there is no other. Ananya means, when your complete union with the God is established. In that unity only, you will get the fruit of your devotion. Otherwise, you are singing, and shouting, but there is no one to hear because your connection with the God is not established. So, without this union or the connection with the God, "ananya bhakti" cannot happen. Another game he played on is "karmanye vadhikaraste", meaning "you keep doing the deed, and dont expect any result". "keep doing the deed, keep doing the deed" and after a certain point you will feel that "I am going on doing deeds, and I am not able to understand what is happening"? And then, when you will get defeated, you will start thinking. Then the thought will come that, “I have been doing the deed without expecting the result". Now, to think that, "I am not expecting the result" itself is wrong. We just deceive ourself by saying that we are not expecting the result. What ever deed we do, we are not worried about the result. This is Shri Krishna's understanding that a human being cannot understand anything which is straightforward. He has to be told everything in a roundabout meaning. Yes, you are not expecting the result, but do your deed. A human being can never do anything like this. Because, whenever he does a deed he will expect the result for that. Is there any human being who does not want the fruit for his deeds? After being in this kind of a maze, human being will understand that, "I am expecting the fruits for my deeds, then what exactly did Krishna say"? So, it means that you have to reach a stage, or achieve a state, where you will do the deed but will not expect anything in return. That stage should come. So, very clearly Shri Krishna, in his own words, made us understand the meaning of "devotional path" (bhakti marg) and the path of deeds (karma marg). But we can understand this only when we will be able to read between the lines of what Shri Krishna is trying to say. This way, after making everyone dance to his tunes, which he always used to do, he told in the beginning itself. He told that, you have to reach the next stage from where you are now, after reaching that stage, you don't feel happiness or sorrow or anything, but he did not tell how to reach that stage. Maybe that was not the time to mention this or maybe people wouldn't have understood this at that time. But, Gyaneshwara ji, in Gyaneshwari, in his sixth chapter, very clearly mentioned that, to reach this kind of a stage, awakening of Kundalini is a must. And only after the awakening of Kundalini, one can reach the stage, which Shri Krishna mentioned as "sthita pragnya".This “sthita pragnya" state cannot be achieved by any other means. You may experience it for a fraction of second, but otherwise it is not possible to be in that state. For saying this, he was tortured so much, that his only thought was to run away from this mad people, and he attained "samadhi"(deep meditative state). He wrote "Gyaneshwari" at the age of 23, just imagine how intelligent he must have been to do so. As if, Shri Saraswati was evidently present in him. That Gyaneshwara Ji, took permission from his guru, who was his own brother, that, "At least let me mention about the Kundalini in my book". Because in those days, it was like you could impart this knowledge of Kundalini to only one person choosing from the thousand others. So he said, "Let me at least write about it". And that has been of advantage because when I talk about kundalini today, people are not asking how did this kundalini come in Hindu religion? Now, Shri Krishna confused people regarding this, so whose support could I take? So when I told them that "in the sixth chapter of "Gyaneshwari" it has been mentioned that only awakening of kundalini can do this job, please read that", then people were astonished that it was really mentioned. Because of that, people of Maharashtra could easily accept this. Kabir Das ji, in his verses has mentioned mainly about kundalini. You will be surprised that he has very clearly witten that "shoonya shikhar par anahad baaje". Anahad means "pulsation". "Shoonya shikhar" means fontanel bone. Meaning our fontanel area pulsates when kundalini awakens. He wrote this very clearly. But, I think no one understands Kabir. "Ida, (moon channel), Pingala (sun channel), sukhamana nadi re (central channel). He described about the 3 Channels very beautifully. When he said this, through his poem he tried to explain something. For example, he said “saiyan nikas gaye, mai na ladi thi". So for this, our Lucknow people think that saiyan means "Lover'. In Lucknow people are philanderers. They said"mother this sentence means "my beloved has left me". I said "you could see this meaning in the poem? How can kabir Ji have this kind of knowledge about lover"? Actually, Kabir Ji meant "my whole life went by, but I did not fight". "when my death came then, I did not fight it". He has written so much about death. Further, he writes I covered myself with a blanket and was lying down on the bed (chadhara odhke, palanga padi thi). So clearly Kabir ji has written, but people don't understand this and think he wrote about some beloved. When the first word goes wrong, then the whole meaning becomes wrong. He twisted the meanings when he wrote his poems because he knew that people would say that nobody is going to read the poems if it is about death. These poets understood human beings very much, that is why they twirled the meaning, and no one said it straight. Because if they had been straightforward, people would have turned their back on them. But I am a mother, and no one turns his back on a mother. And when there is a shower of love, then no one mistakes. What ever I say is for your good and well-being. This way, Shri Krishna has done a lot of favour to me. Unlike a clever businessman, who would sell his cheapest stuff first, and then go to the better stuff, Shri Krishna, as he was not a businessman, in his first chapter itself [second chapter] told that you should become "unshakable in mental judgement" [sthita pragna]. Become philosophical. But how to become that? The analysis done by him on this also is very funny. So, I also thought it is better to tell people the simplest thing in a straightforward manner. And once you give them Self-awakening, then what else do they need? After that that is no more questions. Yesterday, there were many people there. Among them, particularly Indians were asking me plenty of questions. Maybe they were educated, and they might have known something regarding this subject, so Indian were questioning me a lot. These local people were simply listening to me, as to what mother is saying. After they asked questions, and everything was over, I told them now people have started going, so stop asking me questions, and only after that question session was over, and then the Self-realization program took place. So this is not a matter of question and answer, it is about attaining the Self-realization. You have come to a temple, and they have decorated it so well but have you attained the unshakable mental equilibrium (sthitaprajna)? No, you have not. You have to understand that it is not the fault of the Temple, but it is your defect. Until now you have not tried to achieve this, maybe no one tried to give you this knowledge, it simply did not happen or no one talked about it. You just see what happens, after you achieve it. Here, many Indians have come, and many of our Sahaja Yogis also are Indians. Their life has changed completely. In every way, and in every aspect they have become al-right. Same way, you all should achieve it. Each and every one of you have the right to achieve this. This is not meant for a single person, God has made this kundalini for this whole world, and everyone has a right to achieve this awakening of the Kundalini. As you can see here, when this Kundalini, passes through 6 chakras, it nourishes each and every chakra. It nourishes and unites them in a single thread. And then all the dispute inside us comes to an end. And after that all the disputes outside also vanishes. For example, you may feel good to know that, the green coloured chakra, in the middle, is called as Nabhi chakra. Who recides in Nabhi chakra? Lakshmi Narayan. Lakshmi Narayan resides there. If lakshmi Narayan is awakened, then Lakshmi starts reciding there. There is a lot of difference between meaning of Laksmi and money. Money means, supposing you have money, and for example, after a lot of dispute and hard work you buy a car. The car came in the house, but contentment did not come, satisfaction did not come. Now, you want to construct the house. And supposing you constructed a house, with Lots of difficulties, that also did not give you any satisfaction. The whole economics of today is based on one principle that "humen are not satiable". He keeps running after matter. Today he wants something, tomorrow he wants another thing and so on. And after that also whatever he buys with so much difficulty, does not give him happiness or contentment. What is this? When you have struggled so much to get something, at least sit for a moment, and get satisfaction out of that. But you dont get that. Now, there is another thing, where you can get satisfaction. That is the "lakshmi principle". When our lakshmi principle is awakened, all our worldly problems, come to an end. We get rid of them in an astonishing Manner. You won't understand how this happened. All the problem get solved. When lakshmi Ji has come to reside with you, what more do you want? And after that a person becomes completely satisfied also. And, the form of Lakshmi Ji also is so beautiful that She has two lotuses in her both hands, and she herself is standing on a lotus. She is so weightless. She doesn't have to show off her splendor to anyone. She is magnificently standing in her own grandeur. In her both hands she has two lotuses, that too of the pink colour, which represents love. Meaning, she is filled with love, and this Lakshmi ji blesses you with the boon that, your home should be like a lotus. And now what is the importance of a Lotus? As you can see, lotus is a very beautiful flower. And, whatever type of insects, however thorny they may be, have a place inside the lotus. They can peacefully rest inside the lotus. At night, the lotus closes it's petals so that the insects reciding inside it, can sleep without disturbance . That is how your home should be. It should be beautiful, nicely decorated, and whoever comes to your house should peacefully rest. In our Hindu religion, it is a great practice that, we like to serve our guests. We consider guests as Gods. This quality comes inside us as soon as lakshmi principle is awakened within us, and automatically we are blessed. I am telling you the absolute truth. This was about Lotus, and her third hand is raised in a way as if she is trying to bless us. This blessing means, whatever you have achieved, you should share it with others. And you take care of everyone who is dependent on you, like your servants and relatives, and bless them with your generosity. Her fourth hand is spread in a way, that it says you should be very generous. You should definitely donate things. Now it is understood, that we should donate carefully. We should be generous and we should not spend the whole money on ourselves, which is not the blessing of lakshmi Ji. But when the blessings of lakshmi Ji starts flowing inside you, you automatically become generous. And your heart becomes satisfied just with the thought that you are donating to others. Your attention diverts from yourself to others and it is so Joy giving that you whole heart overcomes with joy and happiness. Now this foreigners have come here, who do not know my language but for them whatever I say is like a mantra, whatever mother says is a mantra for them, and they will sit for hours together, listning to me. Like this, it is happening in 72 countries. And Indians in India also are superb. In Calcutta, it is so good that we hire a stadium for public programs. But I don't know what happens to the Indians who come out of India, something wrong with them. But, I hope you all Will achieve self realization, and because of you others also will attain the realization. The biggest thing is to attain self realization, and to know yourself. Until and unless you have known yourself, whatever knowledge you possess is all a waste. And after knowing yourself, you will start floating in the ocean of love. The one, who has learnt the only meaning of love, does not have to learn anything else. Only, this incident has to happen with you and it will happen also. Now, again i'm inviting you to ask questions. If anyone wants to ask anything please do so quickly because I have very less time and I have to go to the ashram, so you can ask whatever you want. Sahaji brother-- if anyone wants to ask any particular question please do so but please don't ask silly questions. You can ask questions related to this subject. Please stand and ask question. You can either ask or write a letter in Hindi or English. Shri Mataji-- you all wanted me to talk in Hindi so I thought let me talk in Hindi. Audience—It is okay in Hindi. Give us self-awakening, because that is what we want. Shri Mataji-- okay. Then you take self realization. If you are shri krishna's devotees, Then it is very easy for you to achieve this self realization. Now spread both your hands towards me. [END]

Talk at the Hindu Temple (Hindi). Vancouver (Canada), 27 June 1999. Translation from Hindi: My salutations to the seekers of Truth. We go to the temples to see the God. And we want to achieve him. Not only that, we have several desires in our heart, which we think that god will fulfil. We go to Temples, for several reasons, thinking that the environment of that place will give us peace and satisfaction. It is true that all these things can happen, and that is the reason why temples have been constructed. But there is something beyond this which we should know and get. And the principles of this has been mentioned in our Hindu scriptures. But when we read something, we sometimes don't understand the meaning hidden inside that. Today, it is good that you have invited me in the temple of Shri Krishna, because Shri Krishna has an important place. When we talk about the awakening of kundalini, Shri Krishna has a very Prominent role in that. Nothing can be accomplished without him. Inside us, his place is situated at the back, below the neck. That is his place. Now, if it is really there or not, whatever I am saying is true or not, you should have a proof for that. You should not believe this just because I am saying so. That is why, when we come to Sahaja Yoga, what happens is that, the devine energy situated inside our triangular bone, which we call as Kundalini and which has been mentioned in all scriptures, it is not as if only I am saying so, when this energy is awakened, it passes through the 6 plexuses (chakras), the seventh chakra is situated below the Kundalini, Which is Ganesha's chakra. So it passes through the 6 chakras and pierces the fontanelle bone or brahmarandra, comes out and unites with the all pervading power of God's love, which is called as Param chaitanya in sanskrit. When this incident takes place, then we get connected to the ultimate energy (param shakti). Before that whatever we do, is to remember the god, remember our religion and to choose the right path. But after doing all these things, what next? Tomorrow, your children will ask you "why are you doing this. What is the use of doing this"? But, you will know the benefit of this, only when your kundalini awakens, and gets United with the all-pervading of God's love. And this is known as Sahaja because this is very simple. You know the meaning of Sahaja. But there is another meaning of this when it is split. "saha" means "with us" and "Ja" means "born". This is born with you. When our spirit unites with the all pervading power of God's love, that is the true yoga. This yoga is present in each one of us, and it is very simple. Whether you are a Hindu, a Muslim, or a Christian, whether you are white or Black, this kundalini energy is present inside every one of you. Then how can we say that we are separate? It is true that our Indian culture is great. There is something very unique about our culture. And because of this culture, we follow a specific norm. But, until we achieve the end of it, we will not get any happiness, we will not get any Joy. And, we will not get anything which we have been promised of. It was never difficult to awaken the Kundalini. But it has been observed that in olden days, due to some system or tradition, the Awakening of the Kundalini was passed on to a single person. Only one person could achieve that state. I feel, it is possible that people were scared that if anyone got self-realization, they might be tortured by others. You must have heard that in India, where the culture is so strong, every Incarnation, every devotee of God and not only that, also Saints were tortured by people. It is not known, why they were troubled, I don't understand what was the necessity to trouble them like this. But, something used to happen naturally that the saints could not survive in this world. You must have heard of Gyaneshwar ji. He was tortured so much by people that he attained his samadhi (permanent meditative state) at the age of 23. We troubled him so much that, he took his live samadhi, so young. The reason behind this was, People could never understand the subtle meaning of things, spoken by these saints. That is why, in our country also many such incidents took place, which is very disgraceful. We have tortured saints and seers very much because they were immersed in love. Their trust was unshakable, and on top of that they were always immersed in love, maybe due to this reason, they were not liked by the people. Anyways, whatever the reason was, it should be understood that, we all should achieve that precious thing. Today, in this Society, Sahaja Yoga is happening in 72 countries, but till now no such Problem has come that you are tortured because you have become a saint. But to become a saint, It is very wrong to give up anything. For example, when the Buddhism came into practice, people started this kind of things. But then, Adi Shankaracharya came in 6th century, and said it is unnecessary to give up anything. He himself was an ascetic, (sanyasi) because he had to work for the society. But he said, to drape yourself in a particular robe, or renunciate the world, which was happening in Buddhism, was wrong. You can achieve this by sitting in your own house and following your own lifestyle. Most of his writings were on Sahaja Yoga. And he said that when you achieve this, when this incident happens inside you, then you will get cool breeze which he described as "salilam, salilam". So like this he told that when the incident of kundalini awakening happens, then the All-pervading Power of God's love or vibrations, start flowing inside us and slowly we feel the cool breeze that is "salilam, salilam". Adi Shankaracharya, established the Hinduism, that is, he established the Hindu religion again, wrote maximum about Sahaja Yoga but no one bothers about it, or pays attention towards it. And he called vibrations as "spundh", the vibrations which flow from the hands, the same way they flow from the heart. All these things should happen inside us if we acknowledge him. If we acknowledge Hindu religion, then we should acknowledge Shri Shankaracharya also. He was great devotee of Devi, and we all are devotees of the Devi or Goddess. And I think, since no one paid attention towards it, and started talking unnecessary things like because of kundalini awakening, “This problem happens and that problem happens”, and “we face this kind of trouble and that kind of trouble”. This is a total false statement. Nothing like this happens. The God who made you, who made human, himself desired that you attain this kundalini Awakening. And this Kundalini is your own mother, your individual mother, she's your mother and she knows everything about you. You might have made some mistakes, you might be having some ambitions, you may want to become something, you might be having some dreams. To fulfil all these, this Kundalini is anxious to give you a rebirth. When she wants to give you so much, how can she trouble you? When you were born, it was the mother who took all your troubles. Were you troubled in anyway? This kind of wrong notions were spread among the people, and they were deprived and diverted from the reality. It is true that, I was born in a Christian family and we are the descendants of “Shalivahanas”. For some reason they had become Christians, but my mother and father both were great scholars in Sanskrit. They had done a lot of thinking on this language. There was nothing like leaving the religion for them, because there is a greater religion which we call as self-religion (swa dharma), and which was told by Shivaji Maharaj as "improve your swa dharma". What is 'swa'? 'Swa' is your Spirit. He told to "enhance the religion of your Spirit". The same thing about the 'swa dharma' was mentioned by my mother and father, that improve your "swa dharma". In this, "I am this or I am that" comes to an end, and we become global personalities. We are global. No one has asked us to be in limits. This is what my parents described, in our religion, that we should become global. They knew what was the purpose of my birth. But, they had told me that, "You don’t talk about it until you are able to give Realization in masses, in large-scale, as there is no use giving Realization to a single person. Only when you achieve this you talk about it otherwise this also will become another "Gita", or another "quran", and it will not get into the people's brain. And everyone will start doing wrong things and go hey-wire". And they had told that if this has to be proved, then first achieve this, and find out the way, by which the Kundalini awakening should happen in, not one person but several thousand people at a time. And in my 47 years, I have been doing research as to why Human cannot achieve this, where is the drawback in a human? What is the problem in every person? My father was a patriotic person. And he had connections with many people. He was member of Parliament, and he was the member of constitutional assembly. And because I was with him I came into contact with many people, and since I was a social person I used to see many people and I used to think what is the drawback in these people? Why their kundalini cannot be awakened? After that, my husband also was in kind of a job where I came in contact with lots of social gathering. In that kind of life I tried to find out what is the defect in a human being which is prohibiting him from achieving the self-realization? Later when I discovered that, by this kind of a gathering this can be achieved, then I started my work in the year 1970. In 1970, there was only one lady, who became my disciple. She was very old and she is no more but after that there were 12 disciples and after that it started increasing and today you can see that Sahaja Yoga is happening in 72 countries. It is not surprising that it has spread so well in India, because this is our heritage, and we have achieved it right from the beginning. In India several lakhs of people have achieved it before so I dont consider it great, but the amazing thing is in Russia, where people have not heard about God, who have never been to temples, who do not know the meaning of God, have achieved this realization in several numbers. How did this happen? I think it is because of the reason that due to the communism in Russia, people were supressed to a great extent. They were supressed to an extent that they lost their freedom completely. Because of which, they started seeking the truth within themselves. When I read their books, for example, books written by Tolstoy, I find that it is their nature to search their minds within themselves. And in a country like that, Sahaja Yoga has spread to a great extent. It had spread so well that we did not know how to handle so many people. We did not have any Russian with us. So we trained a Russian person, and taught him about Sahaja Yoga, so that he could translate, and after that we started getting letters after letters, enquiring about how to progress in Sahaja Yoga. Now, in this country you have freedom of all sort. The meaning of freedom is to know the mechanism of “thy self”, (swa ka tantra). That is, to know the mechanism of the spirit, is the true freedom. Without that what is freedom? ( Come to the front. come. Can you move a little bit? Can you hear my voice? has everyone come? done? Now my voice will reach out? All of you can come inside. what is there?) Sahaja yogis can go out. Let them come inside. You have heard me so many times. Please. You should not have called sahaja yogis. These people keep listening to me all the time. On top of that what are they going to understand in Hindi? [Mother talking in marathi and english] (If you call the sahaja yogis, this whole hall will be full.) So, I was talking to you about "swa dharma". Swa means "you, your Self". But you don't know what you are? You know your exterior. But, You do not know yourself from inside. That is why your Spirit should be awakened. Your Spirit should come to your attention. You will know your Self only when that happens. When you don't know your Self then, how do you say "I do this, I do that". Who is this I? You should know first who is this "I". And when you realize who this "I" is, then it is so astonishing to find that, like a drop in the ocean, we also vanish in the ocean of love. And that ocean, that All-pervading Power of love gives us everything. All our ambitions are fulfilled, and all our questions are answered. Only these vibrations have the power to do this. We do not have the power to do this, we can only become mad trying to find a solution. Everything becomes all right by these vibrations. For example, during the time of Shri Krishna, whatever he spoke in "Gita", to understand that also, you need to awaken your Spirit, according to me. First of all, Shri Krishna said, with devotion whatever you offer me, like flowers, fruits or water, I will accept it. And see, how he was playing with words. He knew that human beings are stupid and they can be fooled with words. He never used to speak simple words like me. He used to twist the words and talk. Then he said, by offering things what will you get? You will get the fruit, only when you offer with "ananya [unique] bhakti". He played his trick on that word "ananya". A common man cannot understand the meaning of "ananya". Ananya is something, where there is no other. Ananya means, when your complete union with the God is established. In that unity only, you will get the fruit of your devotion. Otherwise, you are singing, and shouting, but there is no one to hear because your connection with the God is not established. So, without this union or the connection with the God, "ananya bhakti" cannot happen. Another game he played on is "karmanye vadhikaraste", meaning "you keep doing the deed, and dont expect any result". "keep doing the deed, keep doing the deed" and after a certain point you will feel that "I am going on doing deeds, and I am not able to understand what is happening"? And then, when you will get defeated, you will start thinking. Then the thought will come that, “I have been doing the deed without expecting the result". Now, to think that, "I am not expecting the result" itself is wrong. We just deceive ourself by saying that we are not expecting the result. What ever deed we do, we are not worried about the result. This is Shri Krishna's understanding that a human being cannot understand anything which is straightforward. He has to be told everything in a roundabout meaning. Yes, you are not expecting the result, but do your deed. A human being can never do anything like this. Because, whenever he does a deed he will expect the result for that. Is there any human being who does not want the fruit for his deeds? After being in this kind of a maze, human being will understand that, "I am expecting the fruits for my deeds, then what exactly did Krishna say"? So, it means that you have to reach a stage, or achieve a state, where you will do the deed but will not expect anything in return. That stage should come. So, very clearly Shri Krishna, in his own words, made us understand the meaning of "devotional path" (bhakti marg) and the path of deeds (karma marg). But we can understand this only when we will be able to read between the lines of what Shri Krishna is trying to say. This way, after making everyone dance to his tunes, which he always used to do, he told in the beginning itself. He told that, you have to reach the next stage from where you are now, after reaching that stage, you don't feel happiness or sorrow or anything, but he did not tell how to reach that stage. Maybe that was not the time to mention this or maybe people wouldn't have understood this at that time. But, Gyaneshwara ji, in Gyaneshwari, in his sixth chapter, very clearly mentioned that, to reach this kind of a stage, awakening of Kundalini is a must. And only after the awakening of Kundalini, one can reach the stage, which Shri Krishna mentioned as "sthita pragnya".This “sthita pragnya" state cannot be achieved by any other means. You may experience it for a fraction of second, but otherwise it is not possible to be in that state. For saying this, he was tortured so much, that his only thought was to run away from this mad people, and he attained "samadhi"(deep meditative state). He wrote "Gyaneshwari" at the age of 23, just imagine how intelligent he must have been to do so. As if, Shri Saraswati was evidently present in him. That Gyaneshwara Ji, took permission from his guru, who was his own brother, that, "At least let me mention about the Kundalini in my book". Because in those days, it was like you could impart this knowledge of Kundalini to only one person choosing from the thousand others. So he said, "Let me at least write about it". And that has been of advantage because when I talk about kundalini today, people are not asking how did this kundalini come in Hindu religion? Now, Shri Krishna confused people regarding this, so whose support could I take? So when I told them that "in the sixth chapter of "Gyaneshwari" it has been mentioned that only awakening of kundalini can do this job, please read that", then people were astonished that it was really mentioned. Because of that, people of Maharashtra could easily accept this. Kabir Das ji, in his verses has mentioned mainly about kundalini. You will be surprised that he has very clearly witten that "shoonya shikhar par anahad baaje". Anahad means "pulsation". "Shoonya shikhar" means fontanel bone. Meaning our fontanel area pulsates when kundalini awakens. He wrote this very clearly. But, I think no one understands Kabir. "Ida, (moon channel), Pingala (sun channel), sukhamana nadi re (central channel). He described about the 3 Channels very beautifully. When he said this, through his poem he tried to explain something. For example, he said “saiyan nikas gaye, mai na ladi thi". So for this, our Lucknow people think that saiyan means "Lover'. In Lucknow people are philanderers. They said"mother this sentence means "my beloved has left me". I said "you could see this meaning in the poem? How can kabir Ji have this kind of knowledge about lover"? Actually, Kabir Ji meant "my whole life went by, but I did not fight". "when my death came then, I did not fight it". He has written so much about death. Further, he writes I covered myself with a blanket and was lying down on the bed (chadhara odhke, palanga padi thi). So clearly Kabir ji has written, but people don't understand this and think he wrote about some beloved. When the first word goes wrong, then the whole meaning becomes wrong. He twisted the meanings when he wrote his poems because he knew that people would say that nobody is going to read the poems if it is about death. These poets understood human beings very much, that is why they twirled the meaning, and no one said it straight. Because if they had been straightforward, people would have turned their back on them. But I am a mother, and no one turns his back on a mother. And when there is a shower of love, then no one mistakes. What ever I say is for your good and well-being. This way, Shri Krishna has done a lot of favour to me. Unlike a clever businessman, who would sell his cheapest stuff first, and then go to the better stuff, Shri Krishna, as he was not a businessman, in his first chapter itself [second chapter] told that you should become "unshakable in mental judgement" [sthita pragna]. Become philosophical. But how to become that? The analysis done by him on this also is very funny. So, I also thought it is better to tell people the simplest thing in a straightforward manner. And once you give them Self-awakening, then what else do they need? After that that is no more questions. Yesterday, there were many people there. Among them, particularly Indians were asking me plenty of questions. Maybe they were educated, and they might have known something regarding this subject, so Indian were questioning me a lot. These local people were simply listening to me, as to what mother is saying. After they asked questions, and everything was over, I told them now people have started going, so stop asking me questions, and only after that question session was over, and then the Self-realization program took place. So this is not a matter of question and answer, it is about attaining the Self-realization. You have come to a temple, and they have decorated it so well but have you attained the unshakable mental equilibrium (sthitaprajna)? No, you have not. You have to understand that it is not the fault of the Temple, but it is your defect. Until now you have not tried to achieve this, maybe no one tried to give you this knowledge, it simply did not happen or no one talked about it. You just see what happens, after you achieve it. Here, many Indians have come, and many of our Sahaja Yogis also are Indians. Their life has changed completely. In every way, and in every aspect they have become al-right. Same way, you all should achieve it. Each and every one of you have the right to achieve this. This is not meant for a single person, God has made this kundalini for this whole world, and everyone has a right to achieve this awakening of the Kundalini. As you can see here, when this Kundalini, passes through 6 chakras, it nourishes each and every chakra. It nourishes and unites them in a single thread. And then all the dispute inside us comes to an end. And after that all the disputes outside also vanishes. For example, you may feel good to know that, the green coloured chakra, in the middle, is called as Nabhi chakra. Who recides in Nabhi chakra? Lakshmi Narayan. Lakshmi Narayan resides there. If lakshmi Narayan is awakened, then Lakshmi starts reciding there. There is a lot of difference between meaning of Laksmi and money. Money means, supposing you have money, and for example, after a lot of dispute and hard work you buy a car. The car came in the house, but contentment did not come, satisfaction did not come. Now, you want to construct the house. And supposing you constructed a house, with Lots of difficulties, that also did not give you any satisfaction. The whole economics of today is based on one principle that "humen are not satiable". He keeps running after matter. Today he wants something, tomorrow he wants another thing and so on. And after that also whatever he buys with so much difficulty, does not give him happiness or contentment. What is this? When you have struggled so much to get something, at least sit for a moment, and get satisfaction out of that. But you dont get that. Now, there is another thing, where you can get satisfaction. That is the "lakshmi principle". When our lakshmi principle is awakened, all our worldly problems, come to an end. We get rid of them in an astonishing Manner. You won't understand how this happened. All the problem get solved. When lakshmi Ji has come to reside with you, what more do you want? And after that a person becomes completely satisfied also. And, the form of Lakshmi Ji also is so beautiful that She has two lotuses in her both hands, and she herself is standing on a lotus. She is so weightless. She doesn't have to show off her splendor to anyone. She is magnificently standing in her own grandeur. In her both hands she has two lotuses, that too of the pink colour, which represents love. Meaning, she is filled with love, and this Lakshmi ji blesses you with the boon that, your home should be like a lotus. And now what is the importance of a Lotus? As you can see, lotus is a very beautiful flower. And, whatever type of insects, however thorny they may be, have a place inside the lotus. They can peacefully rest inside the lotus. At night, the lotus closes it's petals so that the insects reciding inside it, can sleep without disturbance . That is how your home should be. It should be beautiful, nicely decorated, and whoever comes to your house should peacefully rest. In our Hindu religion, it is a great practice that, we like to serve our guests. We consider guests as Gods. This quality comes inside us as soon as lakshmi principle is awakened within us, and automatically we are blessed. I am telling you the absolute truth. This was about Lotus, and her third hand is raised in a way as if she is trying to bless us. This blessing means, whatever you have achieved, you should share it with others. And you take care of everyone who is dependent on you, like your servants and relatives, and bless them with your generosity. Her fourth hand is spread in a way, that it says you should be very generous. You should definitely donate things. Now it is understood, that we should donate carefully. We should be generous and we should not spend the whole money on ourselves, which is not the blessing of lakshmi Ji. But when the blessings of lakshmi Ji starts flowing inside you, you automatically become generous. And your heart becomes satisfied just with the thought that you are donating to others. Your attention diverts from yourself to others and it is so Joy giving that you whole heart overcomes with joy and happiness. Now this foreigners have come here, who do not know my language but for them whatever I say is like a mantra, whatever mother says is a mantra for them, and they will sit for hours together, listning to me. Like this, it is happening in 72 countries. And Indians in India also are superb. In Calcutta, it is so good that we hire a stadium for public programs. But I don't know what happens to the Indians who come out of India, something wrong with them. But, I hope you all Will achieve self realization, and because of you others also will attain the realization. The biggest thing is to attain self realization, and to know yourself. Until and unless you have known yourself, whatever knowledge you possess is all a waste. And after knowing yourself, you will start floating in the ocean of love. The one, who has learnt the only meaning of love, does not have to learn anything else. Only, this incident has to happen with you and it will happen also. Now, again i'm inviting you to ask questions. If anyone wants to ask anything please do so quickly because I have very less time and I have to go to the ashram, so you can ask whatever you want. Sahaji brother-- if anyone wants to ask any particular question please do so but please don't ask silly questions. You can ask questions related to this subject. Please stand and ask question. You can either ask or write a letter in Hindi or English. Shri Mataji-- you all wanted me to talk in Hindi so I thought let me talk in Hindi. Audience—It is okay in Hindi. Give us self-awakening, because that is what we want. Shri Mataji-- okay. Then you take self realization. If you are shri krishna's devotees, Then it is very easy for you to achieve this self realization. Now spread both your hands towards me. [END]

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GMTV Interview. London (UK). [..] strange society that we live in today, it really, really is [..] and sometimes you just want to take a break and take five minutes to yourself. The one woman who has found the secrets I think of inner calm is Shri Mataji. She joins me now. It’s great to see You. It really is. Tell me about this technique, what’s it called and how does it work. Shri Mataji: Sahaja Yoga. Right. Journalist: How does that work? Shri Mataji: Sahaja, Saha means with, Ja means born. Born with you is this opportunity, or eh, a kind of a blessing that you can become one with the Divine. Journalist: Right. Shri Mataji: You are born with it. Journalist: We’re seeing examples here, and it’s all ages – anybody can do this? Shri Mataji: Of course. Journalist: Yeah, Anyone at all. Of course. Shri Mataji: Everybody has it, all over the world. Everyone has that. Journalist: Little tiny ones, (3 of them –unclear) and she’s doing it (unclear). Shri Mataji: They are raising the power within you which is dormant in the triangular bone and by raising it they passing through six centres and when they pass through six centres, you see, the connection is established then with the All–Pervading Power of Love. So that’s what it’s about, that’s what it’s about. And do you think people, I mean people don’t just take the time out do they, just to sit down for 5 minutes and actually do this. I mean how often would you have to do this? Shri Mataji: I mean – I’d say it’s eh– whenever- whenever you felt the need – yeah whenever –I mean you’ll have to do 5 minutes meditation after getting it- that’s all. But it’s an en masse happening, it’s happening in so many countries. And people have been so much by that …you get your physical, mental, emotional and also spiritual being alright because all these centres are looking after that side of our life. So you get all the blessings, you get your sickness cured, your emotional imbalances are brought round. And also spiritually you are equipped because you are connected with this all Pervading Power. J: Now the thing about you is, you’re doing a big, such a gathering tomorrow at The Albert Hall, but it’s free. Anybody can come along. Shri Mataji: Of course. J: You would not charge people at all? Shri Mataji: No no no , because it’s your own. How can I charge you for your own? Ha ha ha. J: (Shri Mataji…unclear ) Do You honestly think absolutely anybody can do this? Pardon. J: Anyone can do this you say? Shri Mataji: Of course, of course. Once you get your realization, you have to know it. First of all, you get your realization, in a sense it should break through from here. Is an actualization of baptism. And once you get that then you can yourself understand everything about it. Within a month’s time, you’re a master. J: Really? Now seems we’ve got as You say, some people over here who are actually doing that. Maybe we could see an example of that, an example of what You actually do. I mean if that what you do – you just sit down. Or do we do anything else? Shri Mataji: Even young children know. Yeah, yeah, yeah… children know how to do it. Children because they are born realized children and they know how to do it, they know what centres are there, what is wrong with them. J: Ok, it is fascinating, it is quite fascinating, it really is. And then you would just do it like for 5 minutes everyday. It is easy to learn though? How difficult is it to learn? Shri Mataji: Yes. It is very easy, it is Sahaj. Sahaj means also spontaneous. Em. It is very simple, extremely simple. You don’t have to do anything, like give up that, anything of that kind… outside you don’t have to do anything, it’s inside. It’s just all inside of you. J: Thank you very much indeed for sharing what You do with us and good luck tomorrow at The Albert Hall where you can go along free if you want to find out more about it. You can go there. It is lovely to see You. Thank you. Likewise. Thank you. Right. We are going to take another quick break now [..] Stay with us and we’ll find out what are style team has found out about Natalie [..]

GMTV Interview. London (UK). [..] strange society that we live in today, it really, really is [..] and sometimes you just want to take a break and take five minutes to yourself. The one woman who has found the secrets I think of inner calm is Shri Mataji. She joins me now. It’s great to see You. It really is. Tell me about this technique, what’s it called and how does it work. Shri Mataji: Sahaja Yoga. Right. Journalist: How does that work? Shri Mataji: Sahaja, Saha means with, Ja means born. Born with you is this opportunity, or eh, a kind of a blessing that you can become one with the Divine. Journalist: Right. Shri Mataji: You are born with it. Journalist: We’re seeing examples here, and it’s all ages – anybody can do this? Shri Mataji: Of course. Journalist: Yeah, Anyone at all. Of course. Shri Mataji: Everybody has it, all over the world. Everyone has that. Journalist: Little tiny ones, (3 of them –unclear) and she’s doing it (unclear). Shri Mataji: They are raising the power within you which is dormant in the triangular bone and by raising it they passing through six centres and when they pass through six centres, you see, the connection is established then with the All–Pervading Power of Love. So that’s what it’s about, that’s what it’s about. And do you think people, I mean people don’t just take the time out do they, just to sit down for 5 minutes and actually do this. I mean how often would you have to do this? Shri Mataji: I mean – I’d say it’s eh– whenever- whenever you felt the need – yeah whenever –I mean you’ll have to do 5 minutes meditation after getting it- that’s all. But it’s an en masse happening, it’s happening in so many countries. And people have been so much by that …you get your physical, mental, emotional and also spiritual being alright because all these centres are looking after that side of our life. So you get all the blessings, you get your sickness cured, your emotional imbalances are brought round. And also spiritually you are equipped because you are connected with this all Pervading Power. J: Now the thing about you is, you’re doing a big, such a gathering tomorrow at The Albert Hall, but it’s free. Anybody can come along. Shri Mataji: Of course. J: You would not charge people at all? Shri Mataji: No no no , because it’s your own. How can I charge you for your own? Ha ha ha. J: (Shri Mataji…unclear ) Do You honestly think absolutely anybody can do this? Pardon. J: Anyone can do this you say? Shri Mataji: Of course, of course. Once you get your realization, you have to know it. First of all, you get your realization, in a sense it should break through from here. Is an actualization of baptism. And once you get that then you can yourself understand everything about it. Within a month’s time, you’re a master. J: Really? Now seems we’ve got as You say, some people over here who are actually doing that. Maybe we could see an example of that, an example of what You actually do. I mean if that what you do – you just sit down. Or do we do anything else? Shri Mataji: Even young children know. Yeah, yeah, yeah… children know how to do it. Children because they are born realized children and they know how to do it, they know what centres are there, what is wrong with them. J: Ok, it is fascinating, it is quite fascinating, it really is. And then you would just do it like for 5 minutes everyday. It is easy to learn though? How difficult is it to learn? Shri Mataji: Yes. It is very easy, it is Sahaj. Sahaj means also spontaneous. Em. It is very simple, extremely simple. You don’t have to do anything, like give up that, anything of that kind… outside you don’t have to do anything, it’s inside. It’s just all inside of you. J: Thank you very much indeed for sharing what You do with us and good luck tomorrow at The Albert Hall where you can go along free if you want to find out more about it. You can go there. It is lovely to see You. Thank you. Likewise. Thank you. Right. We are going to take another quick break now [..] Stay with us and we’ll find out what are style team has found out about Natalie [..]

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Press Conference. London (UK), 8 July 1999. I bow to all the seekers of truth. First of all, it's important to know what the truth is. You find so many people are seeking the truth, but they don't know what to find and that's how they are twisted around, taken to some sort of a false rites. It's important first of all to know what is the truth that we are seeking. The truth is, if I tell you, it's very simple: that you are not this body, you are not this mind, you are not this intellect, you are not these emotions, but you are the pure Spirit. That's what you have to become - the pure Spirit. And another truth is that the power that leads you to the state were you know the truth about yourself, about everything is within you, this power is within you, is your own. Born with you, with every human being. That's surprising: if all the human beings in the whole world have this power within their triangular bone - how can we differentiate them? They are all just the same, everybody has a power based in their triangular bone known as sacrum, that means the Greeks knew it was a sacred bone. This fact that there is a power in the triangular bone was known thousands of years back, I should say, in India and in various countries. I was surprised - even in Sweden I found, Norway I found, people were talking about. I don't know how they came to know about. Specially Moscow I found people who knew about it. "How do you know?" I asked them. They said: "Our forefathers told us", like that. Specially with Indian Americans they are very, very down-to-earth people, very natural people, I think - they also knew about it. And Africans also knew about it. But they didn't know how to raise it. That was the only problem they had. And though they knew about the centres, about which just now you have been told, they didn't know how to enlighten them through this power - can you imagine? This knowledge became - sort of - a knowledge which people would not accept, because we live with science or rationality. This is something beyond that, but Einstein has said so, Einstein has said very clearly - that there is a torsion area beyond the mind. And you have to go to that torsion area where you can get cognitive science - called science, but I would say, cognitive personality. So, how is it going to happen to go beyond the mind? If you try anything it is through your mind only. Whatever you do is through your mind. So to go beyond your mind is not possible. Now this power lies in the triangular bone, which we can see also clearly sometimes in some people who have obstruction, where it cannot rise. You see the pulsation in the triangular bone which is just a bone. But when it rises it is a so smooth movement of this power. Now there are some people who have written that this is a very dangerous thing and this happens and that happens, maybe because they can't explain, maybe because they don't know anything about it perhaps, maybe they do not want to know human beings to have it. Now, this power is kept within us because now our last breakthrough of our evolution has to take place. We have to rise to that state which you can call self-realized or there is 1001 names for it. So many people had this power within them - they felt it also but they were not so much capable I think, of raising the Kundalini. Sufis, you have heard about. Saints, many saints - William Blake, I would say, from England, there were so many people. Shakespeare is another one. They all were realized souls. The way they have expressed themselves shows very well how detached they were and how beautifully they understood the reality. So when this Kundalini rises as they have been told, She passes through these six centres. And these six centres are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and spiritual being. So, when these centres go into jeopardy, some because of exhaustion, maybe something, then it is needed to be nourished and this Kundalini nourishes them. Not only It nourishes but It also integrates them. So you get your personality in a state where you are completely integrated. But then She pierces through your fontanel bone area. This is the actualisation of baptism, you can say. Actually She pierces through and gets you connected to the all pervading power of Divine Love. It's all love, nothing else but love. Truth is love and love is truth. And when She becomes one with that you are a transformed personality. Firstly your centres are enlightened. So your health improves, mentally you get balanced and also emotionally you understand. But the greatest thing that happens to you is that you become a new personality with collective consciousness. Jung has talked about it - "collective consciousness". That you can feel another person. You can feel your own centres on your fingertips. First you feel the cool breeze in your hand. That is the cool breeze described in the bible as "the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost". And also in Sanskrit language they call it "Saleelam, Saleelam". In Koran it is described as "Ruh". Everywhere it is described with different names, meaning the same. You start feeling this cool breeze in your hands, specially on your fingertips and these fingertips denote your different chakras as shown there. So, if there is something wrong with your centres, then it is indicated on your fingertips; but if it is something wrong with others also it is indicated because you become, - again I say, it's a question of becoming - you become collectively conscious. But with that you are not disturbed, you are absolutely at peace with yourself and absolutely satisfied. How it happens that our mind is always thinking about the future, about the past. And our mind is dancing over the cusp of these thoughts, which are like this. But when this Kundalini rises She elongates them and there is a space in between created and that space is, what we can say, is the present. We can be in the future, we can be in the past, but we cannot be in the present, and when you are in the present you are absolutely thoughtless. You just become a witness. A witness state comes into you and you start watching everything, not reacting. And absorbing everything, very easy. It's a very wonderful thing that happens to you. So this mechanism is placed within you to give you that special personality, to give you that new awareness of collective consciousness, and the last breakthrough of your evolution. Till human awareness you are alright, till that I must say they still are there somehow. But we are afraid of the future of human beings, because such a turmoil, so many problems, so many kinds of ideas people have, which is surprising that in these modern times what people are thinking: they are something absolutely primitive, I should say, criminal. Violence and things, all this has to disappear. And I was happy to hear that you all want transformation, the resurrection. You want transformation, and transformation on a collective scale. This is quite possible, absolutely possible. Once you are transformed, you become a person of tremendous love and patience. You love everything. You understand everything through love. It's not love of - some sort of a - expectations, it's a love of giving. You just enjoy giving, giving everything is so enjoyable that time, that state and you become so peaceful. Then, as you know, the economics is like that, people will work very hard to have, say, a carpet like this and then this is all done, then they will have some motorcar, then they want to have a house, I mean, goes on from one to another, they are never satisfied. The thing for which you have worked so hard is finished. Then again starts a new urge to have something new. Goes on like that, the whole economics work like that. But here, once I see this carpet, for example here, I just go into thoughtless awareness. And what do I see? I see the joy, I feel the joy of the person, of the artist, who makes and enjoy this. Otherwise thinking, I would think how much it must have cost, where can I buy this, or if it is mine I would be worried, Oh God, how I've not insured this, which has no meaning. But I cannot enjoy unless and until I become thoughtlessly aware. Also in our Patanjali Yoga it is written down as Nirvichara Samadhi. But he has made four stages of the whole thing is that first is this "Sarvichar". Sarvichar means "with thoughts" and then without thoughts, but in Sahaja Yoga it is not so. It is so quick that you become thoughtlessly aware first, and then you become doubtlessly aware. That is there are no doubts about yourself. You know there is a power flowing and you know by experiment that this power, this power can cure people, can help others. And the attention, which is very high. Like I found people say "I like this, I want this" - that disappears. Attention goes to others. You want to see what others would like, others would feel, and the whole personality gets completely enshrined with the feeling of oneness with others. It's something has to happen to all of you. I'm happy I lived in England at least for 20 or 22 years and couldn't meet you people. But now, thank God, you people have thought of it. Now we live with science and rationality. This is something beyond that, as I told you. It is beyond science and rationality which is accepted as cognitive science, people say. And also as I've told you Einstein has talked about the torsion area. But how to achieve it, I don't think he has written anything about it. So this is your own power within yourself for which I don't have to do anything - they might have said it, alright. I accept it. But once it rises in you, it's like one candle can enlighten many candles. And that's how you can spread Sahaja Yoga very far. We have, say, they say so, we are now in 72 countries, possibly. Because one person gets it, he goes to his country, starts working. And India, of course, Indians know this very well, they know they have to achieve only this. Like some people told me that we are like Indian culture. So, we have taken to Indian style of life and we are very satisfied. I said "Is that the end?" We have so many Indians who are following that culture. Are they satisfied people? Is that the end? What have you to do according to Indian scriptures also - that you have to know yourself. You don't know yourself. You don't know what's wrong with you, unless and until you can feel your centres on your fingertips. You will not know what's wrong with you - till you end up with something horrible. But as soon as you get your Realisation, immediately you can feel it on your fingertips - your problems. Now, supposing you know how to cure it, you can cure anybody's and you don't have to pay for it. See, again and again I've said that "it is your own, it's your power. You can't pay for it." I don't know how people believe that for spirituality you can pay, it cannot be sold. In America it was very difficult. They all came to me and told me: "You have to sell it". I said: "How?" They said: "Do something, otherwise nobody will come to you." I said: "But I cannot do something that is not done." So they said: "Alright, you do one thing: take money from them and tell them that when you come for follow-up you will get back your money." So much we are bound by money that if you have paid the money you think you are bound. You have to do it. And absurd things like that human beings think. But why don't they think that we have to change this world? They have to have emancipation of human being. Why now? Instead of doing all kinds of other things, the best thing is to change yourself, transform yourself and enjoy. And enjoyment is complete. Because enjoyment is singular. It is not happiness, unhappiness, it's just enjoyment. You enjoy everything. Even the smallest thing can give you enjoyment. And then you don't start feeling depressed or doing that kind of a tantrums that you do to trouble others, but you are so much enjoying and everybody enjoys you also, because you are so enjoyable. That's the thing that should happen to human beings and when it happens it's something really very, very great and that should happen to all of you. And I'll be very happy, I was told you are all very great dignitaries here and you can do a lot and this is how we have a chance of first of all getting your Self Realisation. Knowing your Self. And then helping people. With a genuine love and affection. I don't know how much I should talk because we've had so many lectures after lectures and there's no end to it. But lecturing doesn't help - it is something else to work out within yourself. That is the most important thing. Now, I would like also to have some questions from you. If you have gone thoughtless I can't help it. Question: Have you overcome all the fears of life? You are not afraid of death also? Shri Mataji: I don't know that part, but definitely I knew that I have to find out a way and method by which I could give en-masse realisation. Because people used to give realisation, no doubt, but one person used to give to one person. One of the reasons maybe because anybody who was saintly, people used to torture them, trouble them. They wouldn't like a person like that because that person was something - out of the blue, you can call it. So that was an attitude towards a person who was a realised soul. Everybody suffered, whether they were Sufis or they were - otherwise even William Blake, I mean, everyone whosoever said something different, people didn't like. So maybe that's the reason they used to give it to one person. That was the tradition. Realisation was such that out of thousands they used to select one person, work on him, cleanse him, do this, do that and then give realisation. One person. But I felt that the time has come that you must give en-masse realisation. Unless and until people get en-masse realisation, we cannot change this world. And I worked, I should say, for days together. Luckily my father was a very social personality, even my husband was. So I had a good chance to meet people. In my own subtle ways I used to find out what is the permutation and combination of problems inside the human beings and then how to work it out. That's the only thing I did more, I think, otherwise so many people used to give Self Realisation at different times. But what I found out a method by which thousands of people can get realisation. Question: How did you come upon this method? Shri Mataji: Just, you see, I discovered it. You see, it's a thing I worked it out. Have all gone thoughtless, or what? Yes, madam? Question: When you depart from this body, as this lady was asking, where does the spirit, where do the energy stay? Shri Mataji: Spirit - it's a very long answer, but I would say, Spirit goes according to its desire, alright. Now, supposing there is a drunkard, who dies, now he wants to drink still, even if he's dead. He will hang in somewhere in the limbo, I think, he will get hold of somebody who drinks a lot. This side of psychology, people don't understand in the west. Because it's nothing in the medicine about this. The other day I read a very nice article about it, was published in America. That Japanese believe that you get possessed by a spirit. Even in the bible it is so that you get possessed by the spirit. But they have said that 50 to 60% people get possessed. Schizophrenia, all kinds of psychological problems come from that. Now, in India also we believe in it. And if you can remove the possession of a person the person completely changes, no doubt. But this is still in the realm of science, you cannot get it. I mean, I would say that, psychology is still a childish science and in that realm they don't understand what is this possession. Is a fact that so far they have not gone into it, but we know in Sahaja Yoga very clearly, because we get catches on the left hand side, say here on this thumb, that means a person is possessed. Yes, it's like that, it's so simple. And then you can cure that person. So many persons have been cured. So many. Who have given up as lunatics, or schizophrenic or all kinds have been cured, no doubt. But it is to be seen and to be worked out, then you can believe it. Because people don't believe that there is such a thing. But there is. There is some sort of a negative force which overpowers human beings, it is true. I must tell you the truth. We have had so many cases, even in England, where people were possessed. So many cases. On the contrary I would say that cancer and all psychosomatic troubles come to people when they shift to the left side. Means to the past. Maybe some viruses which are dead long time back are in our being - that everything is past is in our being. So they can attack. And I've told them long time back somehow through this cognitive knowledge that they will call by 53 proteins and 63 progenides [ ? UNCLEAR] I told them. And now they know it is so. So cancer is curable in Sahaja Yoga, we have cured cancers, of many people. Absolutely curable. We have an hospital in India, already established near Bombay. There's a nice hospital where people are cured. And we don't charge them for any treatment, only for the stay. It's a fact, you see, because people never talk about it, they never told you. So you think it's a, some sort of a mythological thing, it's not. It is there, it exists. So many diseases are not cured because we don't know about them. You see, I was myself in a medical school, so I know that they know very limited things. Beyond that, they don't know. But in Japan, I was surprised that they believe in it and they treat people. Even in India, I mean, they know. Question: What do you give, provide the definition of enlightenment? Shri Mataji: Enlightened means a personality, enlightened personality, I can tell you, is a person who is beyond his mind. And he is in contact completely with this all-pervading power of divine love. As a result everything in that person is guided, helped by that divine love. That power is so great that it looks after you, it organizes everything, it thinks, it understands, it is wisdom of all the things. You become a person who is so collectively conscious. Today we need people like that. Otherwise you always think about yourself. About others you can only think when you are collectively conscious. But these days there are so many people marketing their spirituality, you see. That's also there. And just people jump to it, I don't know why. Why don't they find out what is the gain, what did you gain out of it? Nobody wants to know. Question: How did you find America? Shri Mataji: They are antipodes. I don't know what to say, they are very money-oriented, extremely money-oriented. And they can't understand me because I'm not asking for money, you see, they can't understand. It's very difficult. And how to penetrate that veil of theirs? So, this time it has been much better, I should say, I've been there. I went first, long time back, 1973 I went there, and I saw the people how mad they were. After one boy was a 16 years old guru, you see. They just giving money to him. So, I asked him "Why they are giving money?" What is the need to give money like this? To this guru? They said: "Because he is giving us spirit." Where is he giving you spirit? And then this fellow, he was wiser than others I should say, because he settled down as a young one, he married some American lady and used his money, but all the rest of them, so many of them, went there to befool them. It's endless. Still going on. But unless and until you accept the truth, you cannot change. Accept us in the sense you have to ask for it. You should have pure desire. This Kundalini is the power of pure desire within you. When She rises She gives you your pure desire. Not like this, changing from one to another. And if you have pure desire only then it works out. If you don't have, it won't work out - no. I cannot force it. Cannot be forced, you see. Question: How are children, young children? Shri Mataji: Oh, some of them are great. These days so many realised souls have been born, these state [or these days? UNCLEAR] . We don't understand them. But there are so many, even in England there are born so many of them. Born realized - they are special ones. I mean, this fact, it happens, so many good things happen to the society, like drug addiction, over night people in this England gave up drugs, over night. I've got one land far away from madding crowd, I should say, in upstate New York, and I wanted to start a curative centre for drug addicts, because that is one of the big problems here. But they said the public won't allow. I said: "Why?" They said: "They go amok." This place is so far fetched, you cannot give a walk all the way - and if, I mean, they allow me I could help a lot. But somehow, even in Italy, is difficult. And the biggest problem today, even in America, is drug addiction. Another you can call AIDS. We tried AIDS also, but AIDS-people are something wrong with them, they are extremely arrogant. Quarrelsome, arrogant, they think they are martyrs - something like that. We've tried, we've helped one or two - no doubt. But it's very difficult. But these drug addicts can't be helped very easily. But there is no proper way, if you all can arrange something - I would like to. In your, this London city only, I should say, at least 10 or 11 people like that. First time I talked they've got cured. They were all doing very well, were very well educated. All these problems can be solved. But the government should help, in a way. Because you know they, so much time even to take permission for something. Sometimes like 10 years, 20 years, you go on applying. I am already very old and I don't know what will happen, if I go on like this. For 20 years for a permission. Very difficult. But you people can organize something like that. And I can work it out. You can see the results. You can see the results, you can save these children. Alcoholism, alcoholism also can be corrected. Yes, please? Question: Shri Mataji, would you say a few words about the golden age? The forthcoming golden age? Shri Mataji: You see, Aquarius, as they say, Aquarius according to our astrology is the Kundalini. The Kundalini is Aquarius according to Indian, I should say, Indian science of (HINDI word - Sir C.P. explains:) Astrology. And, you see, they, what they say that this age of Aquarius is very important, because this will change the lives of people. And that is what they have already described about this, that now there was Kali Yuga, means the worst possible times. The whole Kali Yuga means the absolutely the worst and worst possible time for our destruction. That was over. Then comes Kruta Yuga, I mean, overlapping. Now, in Kruta Yuga, this all-pervading power, they call it Paramchaitanya, becomes active. It starts helping people to come along. That also has been going on some days. After this, is Satya Yuga. It's the age of truth. But it's a last judgement. If you take to truth, alright, well and good. But if you don't take to truth you are judged. It's like this. Now how many people take to truth, very surprising. Like a place like Russia, you'll be amazed - Russia. Country like Russia. I went there and I first time went to Saint Petersburg, that's Leningrad that time. And when I went to the hall I saw about 2000 people sitting outside. Because there you have to pay for a hall, I mean, the hall people. So, 2000 seats were all occupied inside. So these people outside, people said: "Maa, are you not going to give us realisation?" I said: "How do they know all this?" Somebody must have told them. When I went in I said: "Alright, wait, I'll come back then I'll give you Realisation." So, I went inside. Inside there were 2000 people nicely sitting down, listening to me and then they got their realisation. All of them. I was amazed. What's the matter? How is it they're working so fast? And then I came out and I saw there were again these 2000 still sitting there. 45 minutes they were still. I said: "Alright, you all come tomorrow morning, we'll sit outside." Now, in Moscow they have huge big places, huge big compounds and buildings. I said: "I'll sit on the steps and I'll try to give you realisation." You won't believe - 2000 from inside, 2000 from outside and one thousand extra, I mean, 5000 people gathered there next morning and they all got their realisation. In Moscow, you won't believe how many people, if somebody asks me, I cannot say, have got realisation. Now, the reason, I reasoned it out what must be the reason. I asked them: "How is it? Had you advertised that much?" "No", they said, "we saw your photograph. We knew. We came." So sensitive, I say. And thousands and thousands have got realisation. These people are so deep, so deep, so humble. I couldn't understand why, why are they so much spiritually endowed, how did they get all this. And what I found is that communism has given them no freedom of any kind. And as a result, I think, they got completely oppressed and the whole thing growth was inside. And also if you have read those great novelist, even Tolstoi, or anyone - they always show introspection, even by the hero or by the villain, anybody, they all introspect. And this is the one, I thought, is the very deep personalities they develop. And immediately they got it. A far fetched place called Togliatti where they make motorcars, thousands and thousands - we could not get to any hall, because formerly, I mean, normally what was the thing we were taken, we would have to take a stadium - 18 to 20.000 in Moscow or Leningrad or a big city. But in Togliatti we didn't know what to do. So we just had it in the open. Thousands and thousands. But not in England - no. Much worse is America. I don't know why. Even Indians in England are no good. I just don't know what happens to them. They are neither English nor Indian, I think, something is, but we have very few Indians even, I must tell you this, very frankly. But in India we have so many, so thousands and thousands who have got realisation. Though Indians know they have to have self realisation, even here. But somehow they are fed up, I don't know of what. Even if you read Shakespeare you feel like understanding that he was a great realised soul. What he showed was the futility of human endeavour in every line, it's clearly shown. That's what he was. I can't understand, see, because I've read so much Indian novels and English novels and English writers. I find all of them are so enlightened. Can't understand what's happening in England now. Why? Now, 20 years I've been in England, first time I'm meeting people like you. Why? I would ask you, people. Really, I can't understand. Even Austria, you have thousands. Italy, where Roman Catholics you know, are so many. Italians, wonderful. Thousands. But I didn't live so long there as I've lived in England. Moreover, you see, language-wise, I know this language, though I never studied English, but I know English language, how to speak. But there in their language, it's Italian or, I don't know how. I'm very happy today that you all have come and I hope now from you it will start going into other people. Because it's very important: we have to change this world. And, I would say, they also said, some newspaper people have come, but I said: "I'm sorry, I don't know what they will think of me." Because they have never been very supportive. But I think they don't realise their responsibility. Really! Sometimes I see newspapers, I think they don't realise how much they are harming people by wrong directions. By sensational things. What they have to do is to see what will be the effect of these things that we are writing. Is it going to help them to rise above all these things like jealousies and violence and all these things that are really completely corroding our humanity. So, I think, all those lines, I don't find them and by head, I would say, I've met some of them, they were just after me. "How is it you are in England?" I said: "Because my husband has a job here, that's how I've come." Then all kinds of funny, funny questions they were asking. You know, I was surprised, they are not interested in spirituality at all. So, then, whenever they said "Mother, somebody is coming from there" I said: "Now - please." All kinds of things they would say. "Your country is so poor, what are you doing here?" Then I had to tell them why we are poor. I said: "300 years if you have a guest in your house without a visa what will happen to you?" Then another question: "Why you have got so many, such a big population, so many children born?" I said: "In that also, I would say, that what I have read about England is this, that so many children are killed every week, by the parents even." I said: "So, the children must be deciding to be born in a poor country than in a country where they can be killed." I mean, simple thing like that. Because children want love, they don't understand anything else. So like that they asked me funny, funny questions. I said: "I am here for spirituality, talking to about spirituality, and why should I worry about what I am, what is this and what is that?" Say, we have to change our attitude. Very important. Of course I know some people who are very broad, broad minded attitude towards people, very much. I've known some in India also, but there are so few. If this thing has to be done it has to be mass-scale. Now, we have Sahaja Yogis, many Sahaja Yogis, I should say, but still I'm not satisfied. I think we need many more. Hindustani... HINDI... I don't know why. Such a big tradition you have in our country. Instead of bringing that here to this country, I don't know what's happening. And they are also very, very spiritual people. There too, you read their books you see, you'll be amazed. Very spiritual. But suddenly the whole thing has turned round, I think so that spirituality has lost its power. And maybe some, you imported some of the horrible gurus from there also might be. That might be another reason, I think so. But now, I think, they are very much reduced in number, there are few still going round, making money, doesn't matter. But now you people are very sensible, very highly placed, you should do something about it, my request is. I'm available and never used to say, whatever you say. It's a new mission where you have to do something. You are the ones who are going to completely revolutionize the whole world. You can do it. Absolutely everybody is capable of doing that. Question: Another question: What's your opinion of Avataras? Shri Mataji: Alright, what's the use of my opinion about it? There are Avataras, no doubt. Alright? But you don't believe me when I say that. Unless and until you experience you shouldn't believe even me. Alright, this is something and because you asked me I'm saying so. But I don't say you believe in some Avataras, first of all you experience them. Everything that is now - you will know gradually into different things and on every centre there is somebody sitting there. Who are they and what work they do? All this is to be consumed and to be seen and to be experimented. Now, I say, supposing this centre is catching .... [UNCLEAR] it is the centre very important because it is in the optic chiasma like this, you see, it's constricted. Now, how to open this? Very difficult. Now, I say, you forgive everybody. You forgive everybody - it opens. Why? Because Christ, Christ is on that centre. And his message is to forgive. Is, I mean, you should know who is on which centre and what works out. That's only to be known. Once you get your Self Realisation, only you have to know this much, who is the one responsible for which chakras. That's all. And you, you have to do according to - like it's a mantra now, to say that "I forgive everyone". Now, some people would say it's very difficult to forgive. But logically: if you forgive or don't forgive - what are you doing? You don't do anything. But if you don't forgive then you torture yourself. That's why you forgive everyone. And this opens. Most constricted - it opens like this. Question: So, which God is for the Kundalini? Christ is over here. Which God is in the Kundalini? In the triangle? Sahaja Yogi: What is the God or the deity in the triangular bone, the Kundalini? Shri Mataji: Kundalini itself. The Kundalini is your own mother. Your individual mother. And She has tape-recorded all your past and your aspirations, everything. And She rises because She wants to give you your second birth, but She is your individual mother. You don't share Her with anybody else. Yours is a different, somebody else's is different. Because the tape-recording is different. And She knows everything about you. So, when She rises She does, goes very slowly, without harming you, without troubling you and pierces through. We say She is the reflection of the Adi Shakti who is called as Holy Ghost in the bible. But She rises without any difficulty. Hardly any time it takes. Would they like to have their Self Realisation? Sahaja Yogi: Shri Mataji asks if you would like to experience this and have your Self Realisation? Very quick, very easy. Shri Mataji: Hardly any time. Now, you forget the past. Another thing you have to do is to forgive yourself. And not to feel guilty about anything. Very important, because if you feel guilty then this centre catches here on the left. When it catches here on the left you can get spondylitis, you can also get angina. So why, why to feel guilty? Whatever has happened has happened, forget everything. Not to feel guilty - very important. I know here people feel more guilty, not in India. They never feel guilty. But in the west they do. But there's no need, no need to condemn yourself, you have to have great honour and love for yourself, because you are special people and that you are going to help the whole world. So respect yourself! As I respect you and love you. You, please, respect and love yourself. Alright. Now, what you have to do is to put both the hands towards me, like this, just like this, because I told you these are the endings of the sympathetic nervous system. It's like this - little open, like this. You don't have to doubt yourself, by any chance. Please, don't doubt. Now, you put your left hand like this towards me and right hand on top of your head here. On top, means away, not touching the head. You can bend your head and see for yourself. Now see, if there is a cool or a hot breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Just see for yourself, if there's a hot or a cool breeze-like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area which was the soft bone in your childhood. Now, you can move your hand and see for yourself. You can move it, sometimes you can feel it higher, sometimes lower or on the sides. See for yourself. If it is hot that means, of course, you have got your Realisation, but if it is hot that means you have not forgiven yourself. Or you have not forgiven others. So, please forgive others, also forgive yourself fully. Please forgive. Now, please put your right hand towards me, bend your head. And see for yourself if you have cool or hot breeze-like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area which was the soft bone in your childhood. Please try. Please bend your head and see for yourself. Now, please take down your hands, both hands and put them towards me, like this. And don't think. Just don't think. Because I already told you, you have a right, it's your birthright to have this Yoga, union with the divine, it's your birthright. Now, you have to put both your hands towards the sky like this and push back your head and ask me - I'll tell you about three, three things, three questions you can say. You have to say one question three times, only one of them. For example you can ask, you can call me Mother, Mother - or Shri Mataji, whatever you like. Mother is, is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Ask in your heart this question "Mother is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost?" Ask three times. Or, you can ask "Mother, is this the all-pervading power of divine love?" Or you can ask third question "Mother, is this the Paramachaitanya or Ruh?" Ask anyone of these questions, anyone of them, three times. Now - let's have it. Alright, please put down your hands again and put them towards me. Please, don't doubt, please don't doubt. That's something very important. If you start feeling a cool or a hot breeze on your fingertips or on your palm, same or out of your fontanel bone area, out of your head, anyone of them, then raise your both the hands, raise your both the hands - those who have felt it that way. Those who have felt the cool breeze in their hands. Thank you very much! Most of you have got it. Unbelievable... You got it? No - not yet? Alright. Who didn't get it now? She also. You didn't get it, madam? You got it? They can help you, let us see. You got it? You felt the cool breeze? Now - you felt it. Keep it like that. Let it flow as much as possible, is very good. You all can do this, it's very simple. She has it now? Sahaja Yogi: It's warm, Mother, it's warm. Shri Mataji: It's warm? Alright, put her left to the right. Raise her left. What's she catching on? Sahaja Yogi: It's left Vishuddhi, Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: Left.... Are you Bengali? Seeker: I am from the Caribbean. Shri Mataji: Now you just don't think. That's what you should practice a little bit. Put your hands towards me, all of you and don't think. What is it? Did you feel the Kundalini? Are you feeling it on the head? Warm, so that's it - put her left to the right. Raise her left and put down the right. It has nothing to do with the air-condition. You feel it on your fingers - alright? Now better? Now alright? May God bless you! Just keep go on like that. Alright? Are you feeling? Cool or hot? Cool now? Now she's got it. So, thank you very much! Thank you, all of you! May God bless you! (quietly) You have to practice now. Can you not tell them to come to some follow-up or some program like that?

Press Conference. London (UK), 8 July 1999. I bow to all the seekers of truth. First of all, it's important to know what the truth is. You find so many people are seeking the truth, but they don't know what to find and that's how they are twisted around, taken to some sort of a false rites. It's important first of all to know what is the truth that we are seeking. The truth is, if I tell you, it's very simple: that you are not this body, you are not this mind, you are not this intellect, you are not these emotions, but you are the pure Spirit. That's what you have to become - the pure Spirit. And another truth is that the power that leads you to the state were you know the truth about yourself, about everything is within you, this power is within you, is your own. Born with you, with every human being. That's surprising: if all the human beings in the whole world have this power within their triangular bone - how can we differentiate them? They are all just the same, everybody has a power based in their triangular bone known as sacrum, that means the Greeks knew it was a sacred bone. This fact that there is a power in the triangular bone was known thousands of years back, I should say, in India and in various countries. I was surprised - even in Sweden I found, Norway I found, people were talking about. I don't know how they came to know about. Specially Moscow I found people who knew about it. "How do you know?" I asked them. They said: "Our forefathers told us", like that. Specially with Indian Americans they are very, very down-to-earth people, very natural people, I think - they also knew about it. And Africans also knew about it. But they didn't know how to raise it. That was the only problem they had. And though they knew about the centres, about which just now you have been told, they didn't know how to enlighten them through this power - can you imagine? This knowledge became - sort of - a knowledge which people would not accept, because we live with science or rationality. This is something beyond that, but Einstein has said so, Einstein has said very clearly - that there is a torsion area beyond the mind. And you have to go to that torsion area where you can get cognitive science - called science, but I would say, cognitive personality. So, how is it going to happen to go beyond the mind? If you try anything it is through your mind only. Whatever you do is through your mind. So to go beyond your mind is not possible. Now this power lies in the triangular bone, which we can see also clearly sometimes in some people who have obstruction, where it cannot rise. You see the pulsation in the triangular bone which is just a bone. But when it rises it is a so smooth movement of this power. Now there are some people who have written that this is a very dangerous thing and this happens and that happens, maybe because they can't explain, maybe because they don't know anything about it perhaps, maybe they do not want to know human beings to have it. Now, this power is kept within us because now our last breakthrough of our evolution has to take place. We have to rise to that state which you can call self-realized or there is 1001 names for it. So many people had this power within them - they felt it also but they were not so much capable I think, of raising the Kundalini. Sufis, you have heard about. Saints, many saints - William Blake, I would say, from England, there were so many people. Shakespeare is another one. They all were realized souls. The way they have expressed themselves shows very well how detached they were and how beautifully they understood the reality. So when this Kundalini rises as they have been told, She passes through these six centres. And these six centres are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and spiritual being. So, when these centres go into jeopardy, some because of exhaustion, maybe something, then it is needed to be nourished and this Kundalini nourishes them. Not only It nourishes but It also integrates them. So you get your personality in a state where you are completely integrated. But then She pierces through your fontanel bone area. This is the actualisation of baptism, you can say. Actually She pierces through and gets you connected to the all pervading power of Divine Love. It's all love, nothing else but love. Truth is love and love is truth. And when She becomes one with that you are a transformed personality. Firstly your centres are enlightened. So your health improves, mentally you get balanced and also emotionally you understand. But the greatest thing that happens to you is that you become a new personality with collective consciousness. Jung has talked about it - "collective consciousness". That you can feel another person. You can feel your own centres on your fingertips. First you feel the cool breeze in your hand. That is the cool breeze described in the bible as "the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost". And also in Sanskrit language they call it "Saleelam, Saleelam". In Koran it is described as "Ruh". Everywhere it is described with different names, meaning the same. You start feeling this cool breeze in your hands, specially on your fingertips and these fingertips denote your different chakras as shown there. So, if there is something wrong with your centres, then it is indicated on your fingertips; but if it is something wrong with others also it is indicated because you become, - again I say, it's a question of becoming - you become collectively conscious. But with that you are not disturbed, you are absolutely at peace with yourself and absolutely satisfied. How it happens that our mind is always thinking about the future, about the past. And our mind is dancing over the cusp of these thoughts, which are like this. But when this Kundalini rises She elongates them and there is a space in between created and that space is, what we can say, is the present. We can be in the future, we can be in the past, but we cannot be in the present, and when you are in the present you are absolutely thoughtless. You just become a witness. A witness state comes into you and you start watching everything, not reacting. And absorbing everything, very easy. It's a very wonderful thing that happens to you. So this mechanism is placed within you to give you that special personality, to give you that new awareness of collective consciousness, and the last breakthrough of your evolution. Till human awareness you are alright, till that I must say they still are there somehow. But we are afraid of the future of human beings, because such a turmoil, so many problems, so many kinds of ideas people have, which is surprising that in these modern times what people are thinking: they are something absolutely primitive, I should say, criminal. Violence and things, all this has to disappear. And I was happy to hear that you all want transformation, the resurrection. You want transformation, and transformation on a collective scale. This is quite possible, absolutely possible. Once you are transformed, you become a person of tremendous love and patience. You love everything. You understand everything through love. It's not love of - some sort of a - expectations, it's a love of giving. You just enjoy giving, giving everything is so enjoyable that time, that state and you become so peaceful. Then, as you know, the economics is like that, people will work very hard to have, say, a carpet like this and then this is all done, then they will have some motorcar, then they want to have a house, I mean, goes on from one to another, they are never satisfied. The thing for which you have worked so hard is finished. Then again starts a new urge to have something new. Goes on like that, the whole economics work like that. But here, once I see this carpet, for example here, I just go into thoughtless awareness. And what do I see? I see the joy, I feel the joy of the person, of the artist, who makes and enjoy this. Otherwise thinking, I would think how much it must have cost, where can I buy this, or if it is mine I would be worried, Oh God, how I've not insured this, which has no meaning. But I cannot enjoy unless and until I become thoughtlessly aware. Also in our Patanjali Yoga it is written down as Nirvichara Samadhi. But he has made four stages of the whole thing is that first is this "Sarvichar". Sarvichar means "with thoughts" and then without thoughts, but in Sahaja Yoga it is not so. It is so quick that you become thoughtlessly aware first, and then you become doubtlessly aware. That is there are no doubts about yourself. You know there is a power flowing and you know by experiment that this power, this power can cure people, can help others. And the attention, which is very high. Like I found people say "I like this, I want this" - that disappears. Attention goes to others. You want to see what others would like, others would feel, and the whole personality gets completely enshrined with the feeling of oneness with others. It's something has to happen to all of you. I'm happy I lived in England at least for 20 or 22 years and couldn't meet you people. But now, thank God, you people have thought of it. Now we live with science and rationality. This is something beyond that, as I told you. It is beyond science and rationality which is accepted as cognitive science, people say. And also as I've told you Einstein has talked about the torsion area. But how to achieve it, I don't think he has written anything about it. So this is your own power within yourself for which I don't have to do anything - they might have said it, alright. I accept it. But once it rises in you, it's like one candle can enlighten many candles. And that's how you can spread Sahaja Yoga very far. We have, say, they say so, we are now in 72 countries, possibly. Because one person gets it, he goes to his country, starts working. And India, of course, Indians know this very well, they know they have to achieve only this. Like some people told me that we are like Indian culture. So, we have taken to Indian style of life and we are very satisfied. I said "Is that the end?" We have so many Indians who are following that culture. Are they satisfied people? Is that the end? What have you to do according to Indian scriptures also - that you have to know yourself. You don't know yourself. You don't know what's wrong with you, unless and until you can feel your centres on your fingertips. You will not know what's wrong with you - till you end up with something horrible. But as soon as you get your Realisation, immediately you can feel it on your fingertips - your problems. Now, supposing you know how to cure it, you can cure anybody's and you don't have to pay for it. See, again and again I've said that "it is your own, it's your power. You can't pay for it." I don't know how people believe that for spirituality you can pay, it cannot be sold. In America it was very difficult. They all came to me and told me: "You have to sell it". I said: "How?" They said: "Do something, otherwise nobody will come to you." I said: "But I cannot do something that is not done." So they said: "Alright, you do one thing: take money from them and tell them that when you come for follow-up you will get back your money." So much we are bound by money that if you have paid the money you think you are bound. You have to do it. And absurd things like that human beings think. But why don't they think that we have to change this world? They have to have emancipation of human being. Why now? Instead of doing all kinds of other things, the best thing is to change yourself, transform yourself and enjoy. And enjoyment is complete. Because enjoyment is singular. It is not happiness, unhappiness, it's just enjoyment. You enjoy everything. Even the smallest thing can give you enjoyment. And then you don't start feeling depressed or doing that kind of a tantrums that you do to trouble others, but you are so much enjoying and everybody enjoys you also, because you are so enjoyable. That's the thing that should happen to human beings and when it happens it's something really very, very great and that should happen to all of you. And I'll be very happy, I was told you are all very great dignitaries here and you can do a lot and this is how we have a chance of first of all getting your Self Realisation. Knowing your Self. And then helping people. With a genuine love and affection. I don't know how much I should talk because we've had so many lectures after lectures and there's no end to it. But lecturing doesn't help - it is something else to work out within yourself. That is the most important thing. Now, I would like also to have some questions from you. If you have gone thoughtless I can't help it. Question: Have you overcome all the fears of life? You are not afraid of death also? Shri Mataji: I don't know that part, but definitely I knew that I have to find out a way and method by which I could give en-masse realisation. Because people used to give realisation, no doubt, but one person used to give to one person. One of the reasons maybe because anybody who was saintly, people used to torture them, trouble them. They wouldn't like a person like that because that person was something - out of the blue, you can call it. So that was an attitude towards a person who was a realised soul. Everybody suffered, whether they were Sufis or they were - otherwise even William Blake, I mean, everyone whosoever said something different, people didn't like. So maybe that's the reason they used to give it to one person. That was the tradition. Realisation was such that out of thousands they used to select one person, work on him, cleanse him, do this, do that and then give realisation. One person. But I felt that the time has come that you must give en-masse realisation. Unless and until people get en-masse realisation, we cannot change this world. And I worked, I should say, for days together. Luckily my father was a very social personality, even my husband was. So I had a good chance to meet people. In my own subtle ways I used to find out what is the permutation and combination of problems inside the human beings and then how to work it out. That's the only thing I did more, I think, otherwise so many people used to give Self Realisation at different times. But what I found out a method by which thousands of people can get realisation. Question: How did you come upon this method? Shri Mataji: Just, you see, I discovered it. You see, it's a thing I worked it out. Have all gone thoughtless, or what? Yes, madam? Question: When you depart from this body, as this lady was asking, where does the spirit, where do the energy stay? Shri Mataji: Spirit - it's a very long answer, but I would say, Spirit goes according to its desire, alright. Now, supposing there is a drunkard, who dies, now he wants to drink still, even if he's dead. He will hang in somewhere in the limbo, I think, he will get hold of somebody who drinks a lot. This side of psychology, people don't understand in the west. Because it's nothing in the medicine about this. The other day I read a very nice article about it, was published in America. That Japanese believe that you get possessed by a spirit. Even in the bible it is so that you get possessed by the spirit. But they have said that 50 to 60% people get possessed. Schizophrenia, all kinds of psychological problems come from that. Now, in India also we believe in it. And if you can remove the possession of a person the person completely changes, no doubt. But this is still in the realm of science, you cannot get it. I mean, I would say that, psychology is still a childish science and in that realm they don't understand what is this possession. Is a fact that so far they have not gone into it, but we know in Sahaja Yoga very clearly, because we get catches on the left hand side, say here on this thumb, that means a person is possessed. Yes, it's like that, it's so simple. And then you can cure that person. So many persons have been cured. So many. Who have given up as lunatics, or schizophrenic or all kinds have been cured, no doubt. But it is to be seen and to be worked out, then you can believe it. Because people don't believe that there is such a thing. But there is. There is some sort of a negative force which overpowers human beings, it is true. I must tell you the truth. We have had so many cases, even in England, where people were possessed. So many cases. On the contrary I would say that cancer and all psychosomatic troubles come to people when they shift to the left side. Means to the past. Maybe some viruses which are dead long time back are in our being - that everything is past is in our being. So they can attack. And I've told them long time back somehow through this cognitive knowledge that they will call by 53 proteins and 63 progenides [ ? UNCLEAR] I told them. And now they know it is so. So cancer is curable in Sahaja Yoga, we have cured cancers, of many people. Absolutely curable. We have an hospital in India, already established near Bombay. There's a nice hospital where people are cured. And we don't charge them for any treatment, only for the stay. It's a fact, you see, because people never talk about it, they never told you. So you think it's a, some sort of a mythological thing, it's not. It is there, it exists. So many diseases are not cured because we don't know about them. You see, I was myself in a medical school, so I know that they know very limited things. Beyond that, they don't know. But in Japan, I was surprised that they believe in it and they treat people. Even in India, I mean, they know. Question: What do you give, provide the definition of enlightenment? Shri Mataji: Enlightened means a personality, enlightened personality, I can tell you, is a person who is beyond his mind. And he is in contact completely with this all-pervading power of divine love. As a result everything in that person is guided, helped by that divine love. That power is so great that it looks after you, it organizes everything, it thinks, it understands, it is wisdom of all the things. You become a person who is so collectively conscious. Today we need people like that. Otherwise you always think about yourself. About others you can only think when you are collectively conscious. But these days there are so many people marketing their spirituality, you see. That's also there. And just people jump to it, I don't know why. Why don't they find out what is the gain, what did you gain out of it? Nobody wants to know. Question: How did you find America? Shri Mataji: They are antipodes. I don't know what to say, they are very money-oriented, extremely money-oriented. And they can't understand me because I'm not asking for money, you see, they can't understand. It's very difficult. And how to penetrate that veil of theirs? So, this time it has been much better, I should say, I've been there. I went first, long time back, 1973 I went there, and I saw the people how mad they were. After one boy was a 16 years old guru, you see. They just giving money to him. So, I asked him "Why they are giving money?" What is the need to give money like this? To this guru? They said: "Because he is giving us spirit." Where is he giving you spirit? And then this fellow, he was wiser than others I should say, because he settled down as a young one, he married some American lady and used his money, but all the rest of them, so many of them, went there to befool them. It's endless. Still going on. But unless and until you accept the truth, you cannot change. Accept us in the sense you have to ask for it. You should have pure desire. This Kundalini is the power of pure desire within you. When She rises She gives you your pure desire. Not like this, changing from one to another. And if you have pure desire only then it works out. If you don't have, it won't work out - no. I cannot force it. Cannot be forced, you see. Question: How are children, young children? Shri Mataji: Oh, some of them are great. These days so many realised souls have been born, these state [or these days? UNCLEAR] . We don't understand them. But there are so many, even in England there are born so many of them. Born realized - they are special ones. I mean, this fact, it happens, so many good things happen to the society, like drug addiction, over night people in this England gave up drugs, over night. I've got one land far away from madding crowd, I should say, in upstate New York, and I wanted to start a curative centre for drug addicts, because that is one of the big problems here. But they said the public won't allow. I said: "Why?" They said: "They go amok." This place is so far fetched, you cannot give a walk all the way - and if, I mean, they allow me I could help a lot. But somehow, even in Italy, is difficult. And the biggest problem today, even in America, is drug addiction. Another you can call AIDS. We tried AIDS also, but AIDS-people are something wrong with them, they are extremely arrogant. Quarrelsome, arrogant, they think they are martyrs - something like that. We've tried, we've helped one or two - no doubt. But it's very difficult. But these drug addicts can't be helped very easily. But there is no proper way, if you all can arrange something - I would like to. In your, this London city only, I should say, at least 10 or 11 people like that. First time I talked they've got cured. They were all doing very well, were very well educated. All these problems can be solved. But the government should help, in a way. Because you know they, so much time even to take permission for something. Sometimes like 10 years, 20 years, you go on applying. I am already very old and I don't know what will happen, if I go on like this. For 20 years for a permission. Very difficult. But you people can organize something like that. And I can work it out. You can see the results. You can see the results, you can save these children. Alcoholism, alcoholism also can be corrected. Yes, please? Question: Shri Mataji, would you say a few words about the golden age? The forthcoming golden age? Shri Mataji: You see, Aquarius, as they say, Aquarius according to our astrology is the Kundalini. The Kundalini is Aquarius according to Indian, I should say, Indian science of (HINDI word - Sir C.P. explains:) Astrology. And, you see, they, what they say that this age of Aquarius is very important, because this will change the lives of people. And that is what they have already described about this, that now there was Kali Yuga, means the worst possible times. The whole Kali Yuga means the absolutely the worst and worst possible time for our destruction. That was over. Then comes Kruta Yuga, I mean, overlapping. Now, in Kruta Yuga, this all-pervading power, they call it Paramchaitanya, becomes active. It starts helping people to come along. That also has been going on some days. After this, is Satya Yuga. It's the age of truth. But it's a last judgement. If you take to truth, alright, well and good. But if you don't take to truth you are judged. It's like this. Now how many people take to truth, very surprising. Like a place like Russia, you'll be amazed - Russia. Country like Russia. I went there and I first time went to Saint Petersburg, that's Leningrad that time. And when I went to the hall I saw about 2000 people sitting outside. Because there you have to pay for a hall, I mean, the hall people. So, 2000 seats were all occupied inside. So these people outside, people said: "Maa, are you not going to give us realisation?" I said: "How do they know all this?" Somebody must have told them. When I went in I said: "Alright, wait, I'll come back then I'll give you Realisation." So, I went inside. Inside there were 2000 people nicely sitting down, listening to me and then they got their realisation. All of them. I was amazed. What's the matter? How is it they're working so fast? And then I came out and I saw there were again these 2000 still sitting there. 45 minutes they were still. I said: "Alright, you all come tomorrow morning, we'll sit outside." Now, in Moscow they have huge big places, huge big compounds and buildings. I said: "I'll sit on the steps and I'll try to give you realisation." You won't believe - 2000 from inside, 2000 from outside and one thousand extra, I mean, 5000 people gathered there next morning and they all got their realisation. In Moscow, you won't believe how many people, if somebody asks me, I cannot say, have got realisation. Now, the reason, I reasoned it out what must be the reason. I asked them: "How is it? Had you advertised that much?" "No", they said, "we saw your photograph. We knew. We came." So sensitive, I say. And thousands and thousands have got realisation. These people are so deep, so deep, so humble. I couldn't understand why, why are they so much spiritually endowed, how did they get all this. And what I found is that communism has given them no freedom of any kind. And as a result, I think, they got completely oppressed and the whole thing growth was inside. And also if you have read those great novelist, even Tolstoi, or anyone - they always show introspection, even by the hero or by the villain, anybody, they all introspect. And this is the one, I thought, is the very deep personalities they develop. And immediately they got it. A far fetched place called Togliatti where they make motorcars, thousands and thousands - we could not get to any hall, because formerly, I mean, normally what was the thing we were taken, we would have to take a stadium - 18 to 20.000 in Moscow or Leningrad or a big city. But in Togliatti we didn't know what to do. So we just had it in the open. Thousands and thousands. But not in England - no. Much worse is America. I don't know why. Even Indians in England are no good. I just don't know what happens to them. They are neither English nor Indian, I think, something is, but we have very few Indians even, I must tell you this, very frankly. But in India we have so many, so thousands and thousands who have got realisation. Though Indians know they have to have self realisation, even here. But somehow they are fed up, I don't know of what. Even if you read Shakespeare you feel like understanding that he was a great realised soul. What he showed was the futility of human endeavour in every line, it's clearly shown. That's what he was. I can't understand, see, because I've read so much Indian novels and English novels and English writers. I find all of them are so enlightened. Can't understand what's happening in England now. Why? Now, 20 years I've been in England, first time I'm meeting people like you. Why? I would ask you, people. Really, I can't understand. Even Austria, you have thousands. Italy, where Roman Catholics you know, are so many. Italians, wonderful. Thousands. But I didn't live so long there as I've lived in England. Moreover, you see, language-wise, I know this language, though I never studied English, but I know English language, how to speak. But there in their language, it's Italian or, I don't know how. I'm very happy today that you all have come and I hope now from you it will start going into other people. Because it's very important: we have to change this world. And, I would say, they also said, some newspaper people have come, but I said: "I'm sorry, I don't know what they will think of me." Because they have never been very supportive. But I think they don't realise their responsibility. Really! Sometimes I see newspapers, I think they don't realise how much they are harming people by wrong directions. By sensational things. What they have to do is to see what will be the effect of these things that we are writing. Is it going to help them to rise above all these things like jealousies and violence and all these things that are really completely corroding our humanity. So, I think, all those lines, I don't find them and by head, I would say, I've met some of them, they were just after me. "How is it you are in England?" I said: "Because my husband has a job here, that's how I've come." Then all kinds of funny, funny questions they were asking. You know, I was surprised, they are not interested in spirituality at all. So, then, whenever they said "Mother, somebody is coming from there" I said: "Now - please." All kinds of things they would say. "Your country is so poor, what are you doing here?" Then I had to tell them why we are poor. I said: "300 years if you have a guest in your house without a visa what will happen to you?" Then another question: "Why you have got so many, such a big population, so many children born?" I said: "In that also, I would say, that what I have read about England is this, that so many children are killed every week, by the parents even." I said: "So, the children must be deciding to be born in a poor country than in a country where they can be killed." I mean, simple thing like that. Because children want love, they don't understand anything else. So like that they asked me funny, funny questions. I said: "I am here for spirituality, talking to about spirituality, and why should I worry about what I am, what is this and what is that?" Say, we have to change our attitude. Very important. Of course I know some people who are very broad, broad minded attitude towards people, very much. I've known some in India also, but there are so few. If this thing has to be done it has to be mass-scale. Now, we have Sahaja Yogis, many Sahaja Yogis, I should say, but still I'm not satisfied. I think we need many more. Hindustani... HINDI... I don't know why. Such a big tradition you have in our country. Instead of bringing that here to this country, I don't know what's happening. And they are also very, very spiritual people. There too, you read their books you see, you'll be amazed. Very spiritual. But suddenly the whole thing has turned round, I think so that spirituality has lost its power. And maybe some, you imported some of the horrible gurus from there also might be. That might be another reason, I think so. But now, I think, they are very much reduced in number, there are few still going round, making money, doesn't matter. But now you people are very sensible, very highly placed, you should do something about it, my request is. I'm available and never used to say, whatever you say. It's a new mission where you have to do something. You are the ones who are going to completely revolutionize the whole world. You can do it. Absolutely everybody is capable of doing that. Question: Another question: What's your opinion of Avataras? Shri Mataji: Alright, what's the use of my opinion about it? There are Avataras, no doubt. Alright? But you don't believe me when I say that. Unless and until you experience you shouldn't believe even me. Alright, this is something and because you asked me I'm saying so. But I don't say you believe in some Avataras, first of all you experience them. Everything that is now - you will know gradually into different things and on every centre there is somebody sitting there. Who are they and what work they do? All this is to be consumed and to be seen and to be experimented. Now, I say, supposing this centre is catching .... [UNCLEAR] it is the centre very important because it is in the optic chiasma like this, you see, it's constricted. Now, how to open this? Very difficult. Now, I say, you forgive everybody. You forgive everybody - it opens. Why? Because Christ, Christ is on that centre. And his message is to forgive. Is, I mean, you should know who is on which centre and what works out. That's only to be known. Once you get your Self Realisation, only you have to know this much, who is the one responsible for which chakras. That's all. And you, you have to do according to - like it's a mantra now, to say that "I forgive everyone". Now, some people would say it's very difficult to forgive. But logically: if you forgive or don't forgive - what are you doing? You don't do anything. But if you don't forgive then you torture yourself. That's why you forgive everyone. And this opens. Most constricted - it opens like this. Question: So, which God is for the Kundalini? Christ is over here. Which God is in the Kundalini? In the triangle? Sahaja Yogi: What is the God or the deity in the triangular bone, the Kundalini? Shri Mataji: Kundalini itself. The Kundalini is your own mother. Your individual mother. And She has tape-recorded all your past and your aspirations, everything. And She rises because She wants to give you your second birth, but She is your individual mother. You don't share Her with anybody else. Yours is a different, somebody else's is different. Because the tape-recording is different. And She knows everything about you. So, when She rises She does, goes very slowly, without harming you, without troubling you and pierces through. We say She is the reflection of the Adi Shakti who is called as Holy Ghost in the bible. But She rises without any difficulty. Hardly any time it takes. Would they like to have their Self Realisation? Sahaja Yogi: Shri Mataji asks if you would like to experience this and have your Self Realisation? Very quick, very easy. Shri Mataji: Hardly any time. Now, you forget the past. Another thing you have to do is to forgive yourself. And not to feel guilty about anything. Very important, because if you feel guilty then this centre catches here on the left. When it catches here on the left you can get spondylitis, you can also get angina. So why, why to feel guilty? Whatever has happened has happened, forget everything. Not to feel guilty - very important. I know here people feel more guilty, not in India. They never feel guilty. But in the west they do. But there's no need, no need to condemn yourself, you have to have great honour and love for yourself, because you are special people and that you are going to help the whole world. So respect yourself! As I respect you and love you. You, please, respect and love yourself. Alright. Now, what you have to do is to put both the hands towards me, like this, just like this, because I told you these are the endings of the sympathetic nervous system. It's like this - little open, like this. You don't have to doubt yourself, by any chance. Please, don't doubt. Now, you put your left hand like this towards me and right hand on top of your head here. On top, means away, not touching the head. You can bend your head and see for yourself. Now see, if there is a cool or a hot breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood. Just see for yourself, if there's a hot or a cool breeze-like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area which was the soft bone in your childhood. Now, you can move your hand and see for yourself. You can move it, sometimes you can feel it higher, sometimes lower or on the sides. See for yourself. If it is hot that means, of course, you have got your Realisation, but if it is hot that means you have not forgiven yourself. Or you have not forgiven others. So, please forgive others, also forgive yourself fully. Please forgive. Now, please put your right hand towards me, bend your head. And see for yourself if you have cool or hot breeze-like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area which was the soft bone in your childhood. Please try. Please bend your head and see for yourself. Now, please take down your hands, both hands and put them towards me, like this. And don't think. Just don't think. Because I already told you, you have a right, it's your birthright to have this Yoga, union with the divine, it's your birthright. Now, you have to put both your hands towards the sky like this and push back your head and ask me - I'll tell you about three, three things, three questions you can say. You have to say one question three times, only one of them. For example you can ask, you can call me Mother, Mother - or Shri Mataji, whatever you like. Mother is, is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Ask in your heart this question "Mother is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost?" Ask three times. Or, you can ask "Mother, is this the all-pervading power of divine love?" Or you can ask third question "Mother, is this the Paramachaitanya or Ruh?" Ask anyone of these questions, anyone of them, three times. Now - let's have it. Alright, please put down your hands again and put them towards me. Please, don't doubt, please don't doubt. That's something very important. If you start feeling a cool or a hot breeze on your fingertips or on your palm, same or out of your fontanel bone area, out of your head, anyone of them, then raise your both the hands, raise your both the hands - those who have felt it that way. Those who have felt the cool breeze in their hands. Thank you very much! Most of you have got it. Unbelievable... You got it? No - not yet? Alright. Who didn't get it now? She also. You didn't get it, madam? You got it? They can help you, let us see. You got it? You felt the cool breeze? Now - you felt it. Keep it like that. Let it flow as much as possible, is very good. You all can do this, it's very simple. She has it now? Sahaja Yogi: It's warm, Mother, it's warm. Shri Mataji: It's warm? Alright, put her left to the right. Raise her left. What's she catching on? Sahaja Yogi: It's left Vishuddhi, Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: Left.... Are you Bengali? Seeker: I am from the Caribbean. Shri Mataji: Now you just don't think. That's what you should practice a little bit. Put your hands towards me, all of you and don't think. What is it? Did you feel the Kundalini? Are you feeling it on the head? Warm, so that's it - put her left to the right. Raise her left and put down the right. It has nothing to do with the air-condition. You feel it on your fingers - alright? Now better? Now alright? May God bless you! Just keep go on like that. Alright? Are you feeling? Cool or hot? Cool now? Now she's got it. So, thank you very much! Thank you, all of you! May God bless you! (quietly) You have to practice now. Can you not tell them to come to some follow-up or some program like that?

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Public Program. Royal Albert Hall, London (UK), 10 July 1999. At the very outset one has to know what is the Truth, what are we seeking. It’s quite clear that we do not know that. That’s why we run after things which are false, which are more attractive, but basically they are very dangerous, very dangerous. And that has been happening – I’m sorry to say – in every country that people are just trying to mislead all the seekers who are truthful, who are honest, who are innocent.So what is the Truth that you have to find? Is said in all the books in all the scriptures that you have to know yourself. We always talk like this: I like this, I like that, I want this, I… But, we don’t know who are we. Who am I? Ask that question to yourself: who am I? Am I this body? Am I this mind? What am I?And then you reach really honestly a point where you realise that you don’t know yourself. You even don’t know your body, you even don’t know your mind. With this kind of a confusion we are living and that’s why all kinds of problems come up.First thing is that you have to know yourself. It’s possible, now the time has come for you to know yourself. It’s been promised that these are the times when you will know yourself. For that I have to say that already our creator has done a good job in the sense he has put this Kundalini in the triangular bone. This bone is called as Sacrum, meaning sacred. Means the Greeks knew it was a sacred bone. And this Kundalini, the one which is within you, is actually your individual mother, your mother.So, this power is placed within you, it’s your own power, and your individual mother. You have a mother which is not shared by anybody. And she’s the one who is going to give you your second birth by which you will know what you are. It is absolutely yours. Somebody asked me: “How much do we have to pay?” I said: “It’s your own, how can you pay?”And you have to believe that it is with everyone of us, all over the world. Whatever maybe your creed, whatever may be your religion, whatever may be your colour, it is with everyone, it is placed there. Just as every human being has a heart. This is such a global Truth that all of us have this Kundalini within us.To raise the Kundalini might have been a problem, once upon a time. And it was the tradition that only one person among thousands was given realization or was awakened this Kundalini – was very rare.But these are the times when it has to be en-masse. It has to be worked out. And there are so many seekers now also. They were never so many before.But the problem with us is this – in modern times – that we want to know everything through our rationality or through science. Both these methods are not sufficient. If they were, there would have been no problems for us. We have to go beyond it. Like Einstein has said that there’s an area beyond our human mind which is called as Torsion Area. And all the truths, absolute truths are known when you enter into that Torsion Area. This Torsion Area has different names. For example in Sanskrit it’s called as Paramchaitanya. In the Koran it’s called as Ruh. In every religion it has been described. But as you know religion also what it has taken in many different shapes in the hands of human beings. Human beings have a speciality of spoiling everything. In a forest if you go, you’ll find (it?) [UNCLEAR] so beautiful, clean, absolutely fragrant, but if there is one man who enters or stays in a forest you will know: there would be a horrible smell, a horrible everything – mis-organised.So, even the religions in the hands of human beings are completely, completely ruined. And that is how we are today facing problems. People who believe in one God are fighting among themselves. How can that be? So much of perversion that has come through religion.The other day I was in Los Angeles and I was to speak to people from Iran. Iran was the first country I visited and they told me: “Don’t use the word religion, they hate religions.” I said “Really?” “Yes, they hate the word religion.” I said: “To that extent they have gone?” Because they felt that religion has ruined their lives. So we have to be alert: No religion is wrong, no religion has done anything wrong, nor does it teach anything wrong. But it’s the human beings, when they take into their hands they have really spoiled it, completely. When we fight in the name of religion we are stupid. How can that be? Religion is there to give you peace, joy, happiness. It came at different times with different incarnations, prophets. But they are basically the same. There is no difference whatsoever, but to get to that you must get your Self Realization. When you don’t know yourself how will you know anything about religion? So it is important that first of all, you should know yourself. And that is so simple. It is just within you and it all works. They have already told you about this Kundalini power? That it rises and passes through six centres and the seventh one is below the Kundalini. The seventh one is for morality, and all the rest are there for different aspects of your life. And they look after your physical, mental, emotional, also spiritual being. So when the Kundalini passes through them She enlightens them. By that enlightenment, we get so many problems solved of our centres which are looking after so many aspects of our life. It’s so fulfilling. Then it pierces through the last centre and connects you to this all-pervading power of divine love. This is the Torsion Area, you can say, where it enters. Einstein himself was a realised soul and he tried to say things in little scientific ways, because he knew people cannot go beyond science. There were many scientists who were realized souls, but they could not say that you have to know yourself, because human beings have such a bad ego. That it would tell like that, they would all discard these people as something wrong.But in their lives if you see they are very humble – extremely humble. And that is the way he said that you have to humble down a little bit. If you are not humble then you don’t realise anybody telling you that you have to know yourself. You may think I know myself very well, what is there to know more about myself? So it is important first of all to know that you don’t know yourself and how you will know is very simple: this Kundalini has to rise and has to connect you to the Divine.Now, there are 1001 problems we see in our country, in every country. I’ve seen people with drug addiction, who came – over night they gave up drugs, alcohol, AIDS, all kinds of bad habits there. Over night they gave up. How? What happened?When you get your Self-realisation, then in the light of your Spirit you see the Truth. And the truth you see what is good for you and what is harmful. You can see very clearly and you also have power to take to things which are good for you. You are no more a weak person and immediately you give up whatever is wrong and whatever is destructive. This has, absolutely has happened to so many people in Sahaja Yoga. Not only that but all other things, all other problems, addictions and things like that, identifications have dropped. Because that’s not the Truth. The Truth is you are a part and parcel of the great being. You are one of the cells of the great being you can call it.And once a drop falls into a ocean, it becomes an ocean. And once you become the ocean you see the whole world in a different way, and understand the whole world as a beautiful place of enjoyment.Another thing that can happen to you very easily is – what we call as “collective consciousness”, which Jung has described. Collective consciousness is our consciousness is myself, “I”, “I”: I want this, I like this.In collective consciousness we can’t feel any otherwise, but first you become collectively conscious, you can feel the centres of others also. In the collective consciousness, if you know how to correct your centres you can correct the centres of others also.Thus, you are concerned about others. You think of others. I’ve seen many people talking like this: “I feel uncomfortable”, “I don’t like”, then you don’t think like that. You think what does the other fellow think? What is his feelings? What are the needs of the world? Your personality spreads and you start thinking what can you do for these people who need so much of love and so much of attention. And when your personality becomes so much full of that beautiful thing called as compassion, you really become so very engrossed and so much dissolved in the joy of giving.(ERROR on tape…… but the text should be complete !!)….. will happen to us. But people will think that they lose everything, but you don’t lose anything. There’s a wrong idea that you give up your wife, you give up this thing, you give up your families. It’s all wrong, you don’t have to give up. But your identification different, it becomes different, you are no more identified only with your family, but you are identified with the whole world. And as a result you find that your whole personality has expanded. And you are covering the whole universe with it. You are all capable of it, the main power it is, that nobody is there who has no Kundalini. Everyone must have the capacity to be connected. And this capacity once starts expressing itself you can’t understand how far you can go with yourself. Because all the time this divine energy is flowing in. You never feel tired, you never feel exhausted, you never get angry. You don’t have any irritations but you just, you are feeling completely, unless and until you are connected. For example, this instrument is not connected to the mains, it has no meaning. In the same way you have no meaning unless and until you are connected with the Divine. Then you know yourself, on the fingertips you know, what’s your problem is. You can say, what is your disease, where is the problem in your mind, what is happening to you. And if you know how to correct yourself you can live very happy.But this theory, I should say, is not to be accepted. You have to have experience. Before that you should not accept this. Because it is just a theory. And many people, who are scientists who are very intelligent may not accept this. They should not. But once they have the experience then they should be honest, very honest about it. And in their honesty they should see what they are. So we are not miserable creatures, we are not unhappy creatures, we are not neglected by the Divine. It’s all the time waiting for us to receive us and that is what has to happen to all of us. Apart from this all other problems also get solved because of these centres being enlightened. And once you are seeing those, sometimes you feel they are miracles. These are no miracles. It’s happening because of Paramchaitanya. The all pervading divine power is looking after you, and is giving you all this help, all the time protecting you, advising you, guiding you. And of all the things it loves you. We see all these beautiful flowers. We never even think how such beautiful flowers, different flowers of different fragrance and colour are produced by this Mother Earth. For us, we take it for granted. All living processes we take for granted. Our heart which is running we take it for granted. But actually there is a very big organization of love and compassion which we call as Paramchaitanya which does all these living things. And you have to just be connected with that – that’s all that has to happen.Now also, there’s another state in which one has to go where they say you are thoughtlessly aware – you just become a witness. See, I see here beautiful carpets spread out. I look at them and – as a normal person – I start thinking “What a beautiful carpet. Where will I get it? What shop I should go to?” And all kinds of things that started. Secondly, it’s possible that I see something very beautiful like this and it belongs to me. So I’ll be worried I’ve insured it or not, and it’s kept properly or not. So all kinds of thoughts will come into your mind. But when Kundalini rises what She does, that the thoughts, which are rising from the future and the past are elongated. And there’s a space in between and that is the space of silence. Where you don’t think, but you see and what do I see here? The joy of the artist who has created [them ? UNCLEAR]. Just see the joy, the joy and creativity he has created those carpets. That joyous state is beyond any control, it’s so beautiful. Moreover this joy is singular. It is neither unhappiness or happiness or anything – it’s just joy. And you enjoy everything, every person, every moment of your life is filled with joy and you give joy to others. This is what has to happen to you, this is the greatest thing that has to happen to you. And you’ll be amazed how you are in a contact with this all-pervading power and how you are helped. How every moment it looks after you and it gives you whatever you want.I wanted you to ask me some questions, but they have told me that it’s such a big hall and fully filled up. But in any case, if you have any questions you can write to me. You can write to me and I’ll try to answer you.So that will be better. But just now, please keep your thoughts away and just understand that you have to go beyond this. For that we need about 10, 15 minutes and you all will get your Self-realization. All those who want it only can get it. I cannot force it on anybody, it cannot be forced. Moreover this power is of pure desire and if you have a pure desire only then it will work. I cannot force it on you. Those who don’t want to have it or get their Self-realization I would request, that you can go out of the hall. Will be better for others also. And it will hardly take about 10 minutes and if you have some patience then you can be seated and try to see that you get your Self-realization.Is a very simple request is that you have to take out your shoes, because this Mother Earth helps us a lot. So take out your shoes, it would be very helpful. Just take out your shoes, you don’t need to take out the socks.Now, please put both your hands towards me like this, little higher.You don’t have to do anything, no rituals are needed [UNCLEAR] it’s within you, and it’s spontaneous, Sahaj. “Saha” means with, “ja” is born. Born with you is the right to get your Self-realization. Yoga is union with the Divine. So it is your right, it’s your fundamental right.Now, already it’s cooling down.Now, please, put your left hand on top of your fontanel bone area, which was a soft bone in your childhood, just like this. Above, more above. And put your right hand like this.Can you bend your head, would be better. Please, bend your head, bend your head.Now, at this time I have to tell you one thing: that you have to forgive everyone. Because the heat is coming out. Forgive everyone. Now, you might say that it’s difficult to forgive, but logically you don’t do anything when you forgive. So, please forgive everyone. Also you have to forgive yourself. Many people feel guilty all the time. They have to forgive themselves that’s very important. That’s the only thing you have to do. I have to make a very humble request that you forgive everyone and also forgive yourself.Now, again you put the hand, left hand on top of your head, now bend your head please, bend your head, and see now if there’s a cool or a hot breeze-like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area. You can move your hand if you want.Just see there, if it is hot that means you have not forgiven. Either you have not forgiven yourself or you have not forgiven the others. So please, bend your head and see yourself.Now…. another thing is that you should have respect for yourself. Don’t condemn yourself at all, you have to have love for yourself. It’s not selfishness, but is divinity.So, now put your left hand towards me and now, bend your head and see for yourself, if there’s a hot or a cold breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area.Now again, put down your head and see for yourself with the left hand if there’s a cool or a hot breeze coming and put your right hand towards me.Do not doubt, do not doubt that there’s air-conditioning, this, that. It’s coming out of your head, not out of air-conditioning. So, please don’t doubt your feelings.Now, please put both your hands towards the sky like this and push back your head, close your eyes, if you want.Here you have to ask anyone of these three questions, three times. Anyone of these three questions. One of them you may ask.First one is, you can ask me: Mother, you can call or you can call me Shri Mataji.Mother, is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? This is the first question you can ask me. Or you can ask: Mother, is this the all-pervading power of divine love? Ask this question three times. Or you can ask: Mother, is this the Paramchaitanya, is this the Ruh? Ask anyone of these questions three times.Now, take down your hands, please. Take down your hands. And put both the hands again like this, and try not to think. Try not to think. Try not to think.Try not to think!Now, try and see if there’s a cool breeze coming on your hands, on your fingers, on your palm. It could be also hot. Both the hands or out of your fontanel bone area.All those who have felt the cool or hot breeze on their fingertips or on their palm or out of the fontanel bone area, please raise both your hands please.May God bless you!Everyone of you has got it, everyone of you.So many of people who are realized souls in England, you can do so much.But you have to know that you have to give to others, you have to give vibrations. It’s not sufficient that you receive Realisation. You feel very fine, you feel absolutely on top of the world, but you have to think of others. And you have to know how to do it. The seed that has sprouted, it has to grow, for which you should come to our follow-up-programs. Of course you don’t have to pay, again and again I must tell you, you don’t have to pay anything for it. And you’ll be amazed if so many people, if so many people, if you have got your Realization how much good you can do to others. It’s such a great thing! I am very happy!Thank you very much, thank you!There’s one thing, they will sing one song by which you have to clap. Even now after clapping you will see that vibrations have improved and then you’ll be amazed how your vibrations have improved through clapping to the rhythm of the song.

Public Program. Royal Albert Hall, London (UK), 10 July 1999. At the very outset one has to know what is the Truth, what are we seeking. It’s quite clear that we do not know that. That’s why we run after things which are false, which are more attractive, but basically they are very dangerous, very dangerous. And that has been happening – I’m sorry to say – in every country that people are just trying to mislead all the seekers who are truthful, who are honest, who are innocent.So what is the Truth that you have to find? Is said in all the books in all the scriptures that you have to know yourself. We always talk like this: I like this, I like that, I want this, I… But, we don’t know who are we. Who am I? Ask that question to yourself: who am I? Am I this body? Am I this mind? What am I?And then you reach really honestly a point where you realise that you don’t know yourself. You even don’t know your body, you even don’t know your mind. With this kind of a confusion we are living and that’s why all kinds of problems come up.First thing is that you have to know yourself. It’s possible, now the time has come for you to know yourself. It’s been promised that these are the times when you will know yourself. For that I have to say that already our creator has done a good job in the sense he has put this Kundalini in the triangular bone. This bone is called as Sacrum, meaning sacred. Means the Greeks knew it was a sacred bone. And this Kundalini, the one which is within you, is actually your individual mother, your mother.So, this power is placed within you, it’s your own power, and your individual mother. You have a mother which is not shared by anybody. And she’s the one who is going to give you your second birth by which you will know what you are. It is absolutely yours. Somebody asked me: “How much do we have to pay?” I said: “It’s your own, how can you pay?”And you have to believe that it is with everyone of us, all over the world. Whatever maybe your creed, whatever may be your religion, whatever may be your colour, it is with everyone, it is placed there. Just as every human being has a heart. This is such a global Truth that all of us have this Kundalini within us.To raise the Kundalini might have been a problem, once upon a time. And it was the tradition that only one person among thousands was given realization or was awakened this Kundalini – was very rare.But these are the times when it has to be en-masse. It has to be worked out. And there are so many seekers now also. They were never so many before.But the problem with us is this – in modern times – that we want to know everything through our rationality or through science. Both these methods are not sufficient. If they were, there would have been no problems for us. We have to go beyond it. Like Einstein has said that there’s an area beyond our human mind which is called as Torsion Area. And all the truths, absolute truths are known when you enter into that Torsion Area. This Torsion Area has different names. For example in Sanskrit it’s called as Paramchaitanya. In the Koran it’s called as Ruh. In every religion it has been described. But as you know religion also what it has taken in many different shapes in the hands of human beings. Human beings have a speciality of spoiling everything. In a forest if you go, you’ll find (it?) [UNCLEAR] so beautiful, clean, absolutely fragrant, but if there is one man who enters or stays in a forest you will know: there would be a horrible smell, a horrible everything – mis-organised.So, even the religions in the hands of human beings are completely, completely ruined. And that is how we are today facing problems. People who believe in one God are fighting among themselves. How can that be? So much of perversion that has come through religion.The other day I was in Los Angeles and I was to speak to people from Iran. Iran was the first country I visited and they told me: “Don’t use the word religion, they hate religions.” I said “Really?” “Yes, they hate the word religion.” I said: “To that extent they have gone?” Because they felt that religion has ruined their lives. So we have to be alert: No religion is wrong, no religion has done anything wrong, nor does it teach anything wrong. But it’s the human beings, when they take into their hands they have really spoiled it, completely. When we fight in the name of religion we are stupid. How can that be? Religion is there to give you peace, joy, happiness. It came at different times with different incarnations, prophets. But they are basically the same. There is no difference whatsoever, but to get to that you must get your Self Realization. When you don’t know yourself how will you know anything about religion? So it is important that first of all, you should know yourself. And that is so simple. It is just within you and it all works. They have already told you about this Kundalini power? That it rises and passes through six centres and the seventh one is below the Kundalini. The seventh one is for morality, and all the rest are there for different aspects of your life. And they look after your physical, mental, emotional, also spiritual being. So when the Kundalini passes through them She enlightens them. By that enlightenment, we get so many problems solved of our centres which are looking after so many aspects of our life. It’s so fulfilling. Then it pierces through the last centre and connects you to this all-pervading power of divine love. This is the Torsion Area, you can say, where it enters. Einstein himself was a realised soul and he tried to say things in little scientific ways, because he knew people cannot go beyond science. There were many scientists who were realized souls, but they could not say that you have to know yourself, because human beings have such a bad ego. That it would tell like that, they would all discard these people as something wrong.But in their lives if you see they are very humble – extremely humble. And that is the way he said that you have to humble down a little bit. If you are not humble then you don’t realise anybody telling you that you have to know yourself. You may think I know myself very well, what is there to know more about myself? So it is important first of all to know that you don’t know yourself and how you will know is very simple: this Kundalini has to rise and has to connect you to the Divine.Now, there are 1001 problems we see in our country, in every country. I’ve seen people with drug addiction, who came – over night they gave up drugs, alcohol, AIDS, all kinds of bad habits there. Over night they gave up. How? What happened?When you get your Self-realisation, then in the light of your Spirit you see the Truth. And the truth you see what is good for you and what is harmful. You can see very clearly and you also have power to take to things which are good for you. You are no more a weak person and immediately you give up whatever is wrong and whatever is destructive. This has, absolutely has happened to so many people in Sahaja Yoga. Not only that but all other things, all other problems, addictions and things like that, identifications have dropped. Because that’s not the Truth. The Truth is you are a part and parcel of the great being. You are one of the cells of the great being you can call it.And once a drop falls into a ocean, it becomes an ocean. And once you become the ocean you see the whole world in a different way, and understand the whole world as a beautiful place of enjoyment.Another thing that can happen to you very easily is – what we call as “collective consciousness”, which Jung has described. Collective consciousness is our consciousness is myself, “I”, “I”: I want this, I like this.In collective consciousness we can’t feel any otherwise, but first you become collectively conscious, you can feel the centres of others also. In the collective consciousness, if you know how to correct your centres you can correct the centres of others also.Thus, you are concerned about others. You think of others. I’ve seen many people talking like this: “I feel uncomfortable”, “I don’t like”, then you don’t think like that. You think what does the other fellow think? What is his feelings? What are the needs of the world? Your personality spreads and you start thinking what can you do for these people who need so much of love and so much of attention. And when your personality becomes so much full of that beautiful thing called as compassion, you really become so very engrossed and so much dissolved in the joy of giving.(ERROR on tape…… but the text should be complete !!)….. will happen to us. But people will think that they lose everything, but you don’t lose anything. There’s a wrong idea that you give up your wife, you give up this thing, you give up your families. It’s all wrong, you don’t have to give up. But your identification different, it becomes different, you are no more identified only with your family, but you are identified with the whole world. And as a result you find that your whole personality has expanded. And you are covering the whole universe with it. You are all capable of it, the main power it is, that nobody is there who has no Kundalini. Everyone must have the capacity to be connected. And this capacity once starts expressing itself you can’t understand how far you can go with yourself. Because all the time this divine energy is flowing in. You never feel tired, you never feel exhausted, you never get angry. You don’t have any irritations but you just, you are feeling completely, unless and until you are connected. For example, this instrument is not connected to the mains, it has no meaning. In the same way you have no meaning unless and until you are connected with the Divine. Then you know yourself, on the fingertips you know, what’s your problem is. You can say, what is your disease, where is the problem in your mind, what is happening to you. And if you know how to correct yourself you can live very happy.But this theory, I should say, is not to be accepted. You have to have experience. Before that you should not accept this. Because it is just a theory. And many people, who are scientists who are very intelligent may not accept this. They should not. But once they have the experience then they should be honest, very honest about it. And in their honesty they should see what they are. So we are not miserable creatures, we are not unhappy creatures, we are not neglected by the Divine. It’s all the time waiting for us to receive us and that is what has to happen to all of us. Apart from this all other problems also get solved because of these centres being enlightened. And once you are seeing those, sometimes you feel they are miracles. These are no miracles. It’s happening because of Paramchaitanya. The all pervading divine power is looking after you, and is giving you all this help, all the time protecting you, advising you, guiding you. And of all the things it loves you. We see all these beautiful flowers. We never even think how such beautiful flowers, different flowers of different fragrance and colour are produced by this Mother Earth. For us, we take it for granted. All living processes we take for granted. Our heart which is running we take it for granted. But actually there is a very big organization of love and compassion which we call as Paramchaitanya which does all these living things. And you have to just be connected with that – that’s all that has to happen.Now also, there’s another state in which one has to go where they say you are thoughtlessly aware – you just become a witness. See, I see here beautiful carpets spread out. I look at them and – as a normal person – I start thinking “What a beautiful carpet. Where will I get it? What shop I should go to?” And all kinds of things that started. Secondly, it’s possible that I see something very beautiful like this and it belongs to me. So I’ll be worried I’ve insured it or not, and it’s kept properly or not. So all kinds of thoughts will come into your mind. But when Kundalini rises what She does, that the thoughts, which are rising from the future and the past are elongated. And there’s a space in between and that is the space of silence. Where you don’t think, but you see and what do I see here? The joy of the artist who has created [them ? UNCLEAR]. Just see the joy, the joy and creativity he has created those carpets. That joyous state is beyond any control, it’s so beautiful. Moreover this joy is singular. It is neither unhappiness or happiness or anything – it’s just joy. And you enjoy everything, every person, every moment of your life is filled with joy and you give joy to others. This is what has to happen to you, this is the greatest thing that has to happen to you. And you’ll be amazed how you are in a contact with this all-pervading power and how you are helped. How every moment it looks after you and it gives you whatever you want.I wanted you to ask me some questions, but they have told me that it’s such a big hall and fully filled up. But in any case, if you have any questions you can write to me. You can write to me and I’ll try to answer you.So that will be better. But just now, please keep your thoughts away and just understand that you have to go beyond this. For that we need about 10, 15 minutes and you all will get your Self-realization. All those who want it only can get it. I cannot force it on anybody, it cannot be forced. Moreover this power is of pure desire and if you have a pure desire only then it will work. I cannot force it on you. Those who don’t want to have it or get their Self-realization I would request, that you can go out of the hall. Will be better for others also. And it will hardly take about 10 minutes and if you have some patience then you can be seated and try to see that you get your Self-realization.Is a very simple request is that you have to take out your shoes, because this Mother Earth helps us a lot. So take out your shoes, it would be very helpful. Just take out your shoes, you don’t need to take out the socks.Now, please put both your hands towards me like this, little higher.You don’t have to do anything, no rituals are needed [UNCLEAR] it’s within you, and it’s spontaneous, Sahaj. “Saha” means with, “ja” is born. Born with you is the right to get your Self-realization. Yoga is union with the Divine. So it is your right, it’s your fundamental right.Now, already it’s cooling down.Now, please, put your left hand on top of your fontanel bone area, which was a soft bone in your childhood, just like this. Above, more above. And put your right hand like this.Can you bend your head, would be better. Please, bend your head, bend your head.Now, at this time I have to tell you one thing: that you have to forgive everyone. Because the heat is coming out. Forgive everyone. Now, you might say that it’s difficult to forgive, but logically you don’t do anything when you forgive. So, please forgive everyone. Also you have to forgive yourself. Many people feel guilty all the time. They have to forgive themselves that’s very important. That’s the only thing you have to do. I have to make a very humble request that you forgive everyone and also forgive yourself.Now, again you put the hand, left hand on top of your head, now bend your head please, bend your head, and see now if there’s a cool or a hot breeze-like vibrations coming out of your fontanel bone area. You can move your hand if you want.Just see there, if it is hot that means you have not forgiven. Either you have not forgiven yourself or you have not forgiven the others. So please, bend your head and see yourself.Now…. another thing is that you should have respect for yourself. Don’t condemn yourself at all, you have to have love for yourself. It’s not selfishness, but is divinity.So, now put your left hand towards me and now, bend your head and see for yourself, if there’s a hot or a cold breeze coming out of your fontanel bone area.Now again, put down your head and see for yourself with the left hand if there’s a cool or a hot breeze coming and put your right hand towards me.Do not doubt, do not doubt that there’s air-conditioning, this, that. It’s coming out of your head, not out of air-conditioning. So, please don’t doubt your feelings.Now, please put both your hands towards the sky like this and push back your head, close your eyes, if you want.Here you have to ask anyone of these three questions, three times. Anyone of these three questions. One of them you may ask.First one is, you can ask me: Mother, you can call or you can call me Shri Mataji.Mother, is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? This is the first question you can ask me. Or you can ask: Mother, is this the all-pervading power of divine love? Ask this question three times. Or you can ask: Mother, is this the Paramchaitanya, is this the Ruh? Ask anyone of these questions three times.Now, take down your hands, please. Take down your hands. And put both the hands again like this, and try not to think. Try not to think. Try not to think.Try not to think!Now, try and see if there’s a cool breeze coming on your hands, on your fingers, on your palm. It could be also hot. Both the hands or out of your fontanel bone area.All those who have felt the cool or hot breeze on their fingertips or on their palm or out of the fontanel bone area, please raise both your hands please.May God bless you!Everyone of you has got it, everyone of you.So many of people who are realized souls in England, you can do so much.But you have to know that you have to give to others, you have to give vibrations. It’s not sufficient that you receive Realisation. You feel very fine, you feel absolutely on top of the world, but you have to think of others. And you have to know how to do it. The seed that has sprouted, it has to grow, for which you should come to our follow-up-programs. Of course you don’t have to pay, again and again I must tell you, you don’t have to pay anything for it. And you’ll be amazed if so many people, if so many people, if you have got your Realization how much good you can do to others. It’s such a great thing! I am very happy!Thank you very much, thank you!There’s one thing, they will sing one song by which you have to clap. Even now after clapping you will see that vibrations have improved and then you’ll be amazed how your vibrations have improved through clapping to the rhythm of the song.

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Liberty Radio Interview. London (UK), 12 July 1999. MODERATOR: (speaking clearly and enthusiastically) Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, recognized world-wide for her pioneering work in awakening the natural healing energy that lies within every human being. Apparantly it's called the Kundalini and we'll be awakening yours hopefully this hour. Shri Mataji, that actually means Mother, was on GM TV [for a popular morning TV show] only last week and the switchboards were actually bombarded with calls. We wonder if Shri Mataji or Mother will have the same effect here today. Keep it on Liberty for a spiritual awakening in a few moments time. (WEATHER REPORT AND SONG.) MOD: Now my next guest, we're very honoured to welcome to the studio today. Her name is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Shri Mataji actually means Mother and She is recognized worldwide for Her pioneering work in awakening the natural healing energy that lies within every human being. She travels throughout the world at Her own expense, teaching this life-changing technique to millions of people and apparantly we don't have to part with a penny. On GM TV, only last week, the switchboard was flooded by viewers who'd all experienced strange phenomena whilst listening to Her. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi joins me now. Welcome to the show. Shri Mataji: Thank you. MOD: It's a pleasure to have you here. Now, you studied medicine and psychology in your home country of India. Is that right? Shri Mataji: I did. MOD: And now, you travel the world teaching Sahaja Yoga. Is that right? Shri Mataji: Yes, correct. MOD: And, how did you learn this technique? Is it particularly well known in India. Shri Mataji: It was used long time back, but the tradition was they used to give this awakening only to one person among thousands. First they used to test them, cleanse them, do all kinds of things. And ultimately they used to give to one person. One person to one person. That was the tradition. Only what work I've done is to I have tried to find out human beings, what the problem with them is. Why can't we have en-masse Realization? And it worked, it clicked and I am doing that work. MOD: So, the very fact that tradition was passed on to, like you say one in thousands of people. Would you say that is why the tradition was actually lost over the years? The tradition itself, did. Shri Mataji: Ya. It's not only Indian tradition. It has been in many countries. But people aren't aware of it. See, everywhere they have talked about it, that there's t ¥his power in the sacrum bone and that it is to be awakened. Even the Greeks knew about it because they called it as sacrum bone meaning a sacred bone. So, it is not only Indian, it is all over. People knew about it, but they didn't know how to awaken it. In a far-fetched place called Bolivia, they know everything about it. They said two saints came from India and they taught us, long, long time back and but we don't know how to awaken it. MOD: Now it's called as Kundalini, am I right? Shri Mataji: Kundalini. MOD: Kundalini. Shri Mataji: Kundalini means a coil. It's coiled up into three and a half. It has some mathematical relations. That's why it's three and a half coils. That energy's coiled up. MOD: And we have to unravel those coils, is that right and let the energy flow? Shri Mataji: Ya. MOD: So essentially it's an energy force that flows through all of us. Shri Mataji: No, that Energy is within you, dormant. It's not yet awakened. Once it ¥ is awakened, it passes through six subtle centres. And these centres are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and also spiritual being. So, when it is there, enlightened. When they are nourished, we get rid of our diseases, we get rid of our mental problems, we develop a balance, peace within and, ultimately, what we get is the joy. MOD: So, why do you think those energies within us, then, have been suppressed all these years? Shri Mataji: Pardon me? MOD: Our energies because you said they're not awakened, so, by definition, that means that, that they are suppressed. Are they just suppressed? Shri Mataji: No, not suppressed. They are in a dormant state. MOD: A dormant state. Shri Mataji: Ya. They're not suppressed. But then, they are to be awakened. It's like one candle which is enlightened can enlighten many candles. It's like that. If you get that awakening, you can awaken thousands. [SILENCE] MOD: It's fascinating. My gue §st is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, recognized worldwide for her pioneering work in awakening the natural healing energy that lies within every human being. It's called the Kundalini and, hopefully, we'll give you some tips on how you can awaken yours in just a few moments time. [SONG] MOD: My guest today is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Shri Mataji means Mother and that we're awakening a dormant energy in you today. Such is the extent of the awakening in the country when viewers tuned in to GM TV last week, that we thought we must welcome Shri Mataji to the show to see if she can awaken the dormant energy, Kundalini, the Kundalini, within all of us. Now, can you, can you, is it something that you can do, actually, at home on your own or is it something that we need you to help us do? Shri Mataji: No, you have to ask some enlightened person to do that. MOD: Right. Shri Mataji: As there is a candle which is not enlightened, it cannot get enlightened by itself. So, you have to go to a person who is enlightened. MOD: Like yourself. And this is something that you can actually do over the air now, if anyone was listening? Shri Mataji: Beg your pardon? MOD: Is this something you can actually do now, on air Shri Mataji: Yes, I can. I'll try. I'll try. [soft chuckle] MOD: Okay, great. How do we do that then? Shri Mataji: How? MOD: How do we actually awaken the Kundalini? Shri Mataji: "It's a Ñ you want me to do it? MOD: Ya, ya. Ya. Shri Mataji: All right. I would request all of you to put your hands like this MOD: So, hands out. Shri Mataji: Out like that. MOD: With palms facing upwards. Shri Mataji: Yes. Palms relaxed, like so. And ah, I have to tell you one thing is to, first of all, you have to forgive yourself. Is very important. You have to forgive yourself. You should not feel guilty. Because whatever wrong you have done is finished now. Why to feel guilty? The second point Ãis you have to forgive everyone. That's a very important point because there's a centre here, here Ñ MOD: In the forehead. In the forehead. Ya. Shri Mataji: on the optic chasma, which is very constricted and if you don't forgive, it won't open. So Kundalini won't be able to pass through that. So, you have to forgive everyone. Logically, if you don't forgive, you don't do anything. Whether you forgive or don't forgive, you don't do anything. But if you don't forgive, then you torture yourself. So, best is to forgive. Forgive everyone. Is very simple just to say, I forgive everyone. That's all you have to say. Just to say. Now, put your hands towards me like that, both, I mean towards your, maybe, radio. MOD: Towards your wireless, ya, ya, ya. Shri Mataji: Towards, both hands. Now, what you can do is to put the right handtowards Me like this and left hand Ñ you have to put on top of the fontanel bone area. MOD: Right. So the left hand. Shri Mataji: Above the last centre. MOD: Right. The left, the left hand goes just above, just above thecentre parting on your head. Shri Mataji: Ya, that was the soft bone in your childhood. MOD: Right. Shri Mataji: In the fontanel bone area. You see? MOD: Right. On top of your head. Shri Mataji: Ya, just above. MOD: Right. Shri Mataji: And you put your hand, not on top, but above. And see for yourself if there is any cool or hot breeze-like thing coming, some vibrations. MOD: Right. So you would you would feel air, warm air or cool air ? Shri Mataji: Ya. But they are vibrations that are coming in. They look like air, cool air or hot air. Little higher. All right. MOD: Uuh, ya, ya. Shri Mataji: Now, you put the left hand towards me like this and put the right hand on top of your again, on top of your fontanelbone area. This is the actualization of baptism that you really feel a cool or hot breeze coming out of your own head. Now you can move your hand and see for yourself. If it is cool, well and good. If it is hot, also all right, but that means you have not forgiven, you have not forgiven yourself and you have not forgiven others. MOD: Not forgiven. So that means if you have your hand above your head and you're feeling hot. Shri Mataji: Ya, hot. Then you better understand that you have not yet forgiven everyone. That's there. So, better forgive everyone, so it becomes cool again. Now, it has to be cool is the perfect state. [SILENCE] MOD: So, if you feel a cool air, then it means you're in a better place than someone who's feeling hot air. Shri Mataji: Now, I'll blow in the mic, if you don't mind. That will have an effect, better. Keep the hands like that only and I'll blow. [LONG SILENCE WITH SOFT BLOWING SOUND] MOD: So, what is it people we'll be feeling now at home? Shri Mataji: It will be coming out. Now, what you have to see is that on your fingertips, also, you feel the cool breeze. ÊOn your fingertips and in the centre of your palms you'll feel the cool breeze. Maybe a little bit hot you might feel , if you have not forgiven yourself. Some may be there. You will feel it. And once you feel it, you should know that you are in connection with this all-pervading power of Divine Love, which is known also in the Bible. It's called as the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost. So that's the Ñ you start feeling now that your connection is established. But still, you have to grow into it and there are problems within you, so we have follow-ups and all that. We have centres everywhere where you can go and ask them and they will tell you what's wrong with you. That will correct you physically, mentally, emotionally and also spiritually. MOD: And we'll give you those details in just a few moments time. Keep to Liberty for more tunes, more chat and more fun and more from Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi and don't forget to give us a call if you've felt anything at home. [SONG] MOD: And my guest today is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Shri Mataji means Mother and I have to say we've seen from her quite an effect from ouraudience. We've had quite a few calls so far from people who are experiencing the cool and the warm air that you described. I should explain, if anyone's just joined us, that we just did an exercise on the radio with Shri Mataji, who is recognized worldwide for her pioneering work in awakening the natural healing energy that lies within every human being called the Kundalini. Now there's some awakening going on. What's the next stage then, Mother? Shri Mataji: Then you have to perfect yourself. You have to know everything about it. About a month, if you spend on this, you'll become a master yourself. You can give Realization to thousands yourself. MOD: Is it, is it really that easy though? Shri Mataji: Ya, ya [soft laugh]. MOD: I thought some people though Shri Mataji: It has to be very easy, isn't it, because so important. MOD: Absolutely, so more and more Shri Mataji: It's so vital. MOD: so more and more people can do it. Shri Mataji: It is the last breakthrough of our evolution, last breakthrough of our evolution. And it has to happen to all the people. The kundalini is present in all the people, whether they are this nationality, that nationality, colour, creed, religion, doesn'tmatter. Everybody has this power to rise above to this new realm, which Einstein has described: that once you get your Self Realization, you jump into the torsion area he called it. MOD: So, if we awaken it globally, do you envision, in time then, where we would reach, I suppose, a utopia, because a lot of people might say, Mother, who were listening, that there are so many bad things going on in the world. Would you argue that is because that Kundalini hasn't been awakened? Shri Mataji: No, because human beings are to be transformed. You see, human beings have all these weaknesses like greed, anger, hatred, all that. All these things you just forget. They just drop out and you become a beautiful personality, which loves and which enjoys. MOD: And you say this is something which can be awakened in all of us, everyone, anyone who is listening has the potential to do this? Shri Mataji: Ya. MOD: And you can actually learn how to do it yourself. There is an eight week series of follow-up programs which you mentioned, Mother. Shri Mataji: Yes, yes. MOD: Mother, in which you can learn more, to practise the techniques of Sahaja Yoga. We must stress, you don't part with any cash for this. The first two of these will be held on Wednesday the 14th of July at 7:30 p.m. and Wednesday the 21st of July at 7:30. They're on at the Great Hall, the Kensington Town Hall. So, if you did feel anything at home or perhaps you didn't but would still like to fi »nd out more, then you can call the Sahaja Yoga information line. That's 0181-9305621. That's 0181-9305621. There are also Sahaja Yoga centres in over eighty countries around the world. Those details available once again on 0181-9305621. Mother, it's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you very much for joining us. Shri Mataji: Thank you. Thank you very much. MOD: And the best of luck with everything in the future. Shri Mataji: Thank you. Thank you very much. MOD: Not at all. My pleasure entirely [SONG] MOD: if you've felt anything, ah, at all at home, even if you felt, ah, that you didn't feel a thing, then, ah, the Big Man has, ah, those details once again if you, ah, fancy going along this, ah, ver ky week. BIG MAN (with deep voice): "Ya, there's one this Wednesday, um, it kicks off, they all kick off at 7:30, and apparently you part with NO MONEY whatsoever - and this must be why, ah, one of the reasons why it's taken so long for This to come to the fore, because anything like this, if you're parting with money, they like to knock it down.But they're not asking you for any money. You go along, it's totally gratis, and there's one at Covent Gardens (tells all the Sahaja Yoga programs in London).And I believe there is a number, which I can't see, have you got the number there? There is a number- MOD: There is a number to call, which is 0181 B.M.: 9305621. Ah, any information that you need on Sahaja Yoga, that is the information hotline. And also, if you're, ah, netted up, you can point your browser at WWW.SAHAJA.ORG, Sahaja spellt s.a g.h.a.j.a.. And I can tell you, I did feel a little bit of the Breeze coming through. Um, so I, I don't know, I may have to pop along, because it was a, I don't know, peace, ah MOD: Very very str B.M.: very very strange MOD: strange experience. B.M.: Never have I experienced anything like, like that in the whole of my life. Seriously.

Liberty Radio Interview. London (UK), 12 July 1999. MODERATOR: (speaking clearly and enthusiastically) Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, recognized world-wide for her pioneering work in awakening the natural healing energy that lies within every human being. Apparantly it's called the Kundalini and we'll be awakening yours hopefully this hour. Shri Mataji, that actually means Mother, was on GM TV [for a popular morning TV show] only last week and the switchboards were actually bombarded with calls. We wonder if Shri Mataji or Mother will have the same effect here today. Keep it on Liberty for a spiritual awakening in a few moments time. (WEATHER REPORT AND SONG.) MOD: Now my next guest, we're very honoured to welcome to the studio today. Her name is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Shri Mataji actually means Mother and She is recognized worldwide for Her pioneering work in awakening the natural healing energy that lies within every human being. She travels throughout the world at Her own expense, teaching this life-changing technique to millions of people and apparantly we don't have to part with a penny. On GM TV, only last week, the switchboard was flooded by viewers who'd all experienced strange phenomena whilst listening to Her. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi joins me now. Welcome to the show. Shri Mataji: Thank you. MOD: It's a pleasure to have you here. Now, you studied medicine and psychology in your home country of India. Is that right? Shri Mataji: I did. MOD: And now, you travel the world teaching Sahaja Yoga. Is that right? Shri Mataji: Yes, correct. MOD: And, how did you learn this technique? Is it particularly well known in India. Shri Mataji: It was used long time back, but the tradition was they used to give this awakening only to one person among thousands. First they used to test them, cleanse them, do all kinds of things. And ultimately they used to give to one person. One person to one person. That was the tradition. Only what work I've done is to I have tried to find out human beings, what the problem with them is. Why can't we have en-masse Realization? And it worked, it clicked and I am doing that work. MOD: So, the very fact that tradition was passed on to, like you say one in thousands of people. Would you say that is why the tradition was actually lost over the years? The tradition itself, did. Shri Mataji: Ya. It's not only Indian tradition. It has been in many countries. But people aren't aware of it. See, everywhere they have talked about it, that there's t ¥his power in the sacrum bone and that it is to be awakened. Even the Greeks knew about it because they called it as sacrum bone meaning a sacred bone. So, it is not only Indian, it is all over. People knew about it, but they didn't know how to awaken it. In a far-fetched place called Bolivia, they know everything about it. They said two saints came from India and they taught us, long, long time back and but we don't know how to awaken it. MOD: Now it's called as Kundalini, am I right? Shri Mataji: Kundalini. MOD: Kundalini. Shri Mataji: Kundalini means a coil. It's coiled up into three and a half. It has some mathematical relations. That's why it's three and a half coils. That energy's coiled up. MOD: And we have to unravel those coils, is that right and let the energy flow? Shri Mataji: Ya. MOD: So essentially it's an energy force that flows through all of us. Shri Mataji: No, that Energy is within you, dormant. It's not yet awakened. Once it ¥ is awakened, it passes through six subtle centres. And these centres are responsible for our physical, mental, emotional and also spiritual being. So, when it is there, enlightened. When they are nourished, we get rid of our diseases, we get rid of our mental problems, we develop a balance, peace within and, ultimately, what we get is the joy. MOD: So, why do you think those energies within us, then, have been suppressed all these years? Shri Mataji: Pardon me? MOD: Our energies because you said they're not awakened, so, by definition, that means that, that they are suppressed. Are they just suppressed? Shri Mataji: No, not suppressed. They are in a dormant state. MOD: A dormant state. Shri Mataji: Ya. They're not suppressed. But then, they are to be awakened. It's like one candle which is enlightened can enlighten many candles. It's like that. If you get that awakening, you can awaken thousands. [SILENCE] MOD: It's fascinating. My gue §st is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, recognized worldwide for her pioneering work in awakening the natural healing energy that lies within every human being. It's called the Kundalini and, hopefully, we'll give you some tips on how you can awaken yours in just a few moments time. [SONG] MOD: My guest today is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Shri Mataji means Mother and that we're awakening a dormant energy in you today. Such is the extent of the awakening in the country when viewers tuned in to GM TV last week, that we thought we must welcome Shri Mataji to the show to see if she can awaken the dormant energy, Kundalini, the Kundalini, within all of us. Now, can you, can you, is it something that you can do, actually, at home on your own or is it something that we need you to help us do? Shri Mataji: No, you have to ask some enlightened person to do that. MOD: Right. Shri Mataji: As there is a candle which is not enlightened, it cannot get enlightened by itself. So, you have to go to a person who is enlightened. MOD: Like yourself. And this is something that you can actually do over the air now, if anyone was listening? Shri Mataji: Beg your pardon? MOD: Is this something you can actually do now, on air Shri Mataji: Yes, I can. I'll try. I'll try. [soft chuckle] MOD: Okay, great. How do we do that then? Shri Mataji: How? MOD: How do we actually awaken the Kundalini? Shri Mataji: "It's a Ñ you want me to do it? MOD: Ya, ya. Ya. Shri Mataji: All right. I would request all of you to put your hands like this MOD: So, hands out. Shri Mataji: Out like that. MOD: With palms facing upwards. Shri Mataji: Yes. Palms relaxed, like so. And ah, I have to tell you one thing is to, first of all, you have to forgive yourself. Is very important. You have to forgive yourself. You should not feel guilty. Because whatever wrong you have done is finished now. Why to feel guilty? The second point Ãis you have to forgive everyone. That's a very important point because there's a centre here, here Ñ MOD: In the forehead. In the forehead. Ya. Shri Mataji: on the optic chasma, which is very constricted and if you don't forgive, it won't open. So Kundalini won't be able to pass through that. So, you have to forgive everyone. Logically, if you don't forgive, you don't do anything. Whether you forgive or don't forgive, you don't do anything. But if you don't forgive, then you torture yourself. So, best is to forgive. Forgive everyone. Is very simple just to say, I forgive everyone. That's all you have to say. Just to say. Now, put your hands towards me like that, both, I mean towards your, maybe, radio. MOD: Towards your wireless, ya, ya, ya. Shri Mataji: Towards, both hands. Now, what you can do is to put the right handtowards Me like this and left hand Ñ you have to put on top of the fontanel bone area. MOD: Right. So the left hand. Shri Mataji: Above the last centre. MOD: Right. The left, the left hand goes just above, just above thecentre parting on your head. Shri Mataji: Ya, that was the soft bone in your childhood. MOD: Right. Shri Mataji: In the fontanel bone area. You see? MOD: Right. On top of your head. Shri Mataji: Ya, just above. MOD: Right. Shri Mataji: And you put your hand, not on top, but above. And see for yourself if there is any cool or hot breeze-like thing coming, some vibrations. MOD: Right. So you would you would feel air, warm air or cool air ? Shri Mataji: Ya. But they are vibrations that are coming in. They look like air, cool air or hot air. Little higher. All right. MOD: Uuh, ya, ya. Shri Mataji: Now, you put the left hand towards me like this and put the right hand on top of your again, on top of your fontanelbone area. This is the actualization of baptism that you really feel a cool or hot breeze coming out of your own head. Now you can move your hand and see for yourself. If it is cool, well and good. If it is hot, also all right, but that means you have not forgiven, you have not forgiven yourself and you have not forgiven others. MOD: Not forgiven. So that means if you have your hand above your head and you're feeling hot. Shri Mataji: Ya, hot. Then you better understand that you have not yet forgiven everyone. That's there. So, better forgive everyone, so it becomes cool again. Now, it has to be cool is the perfect state. [SILENCE] MOD: So, if you feel a cool air, then it means you're in a better place than someone who's feeling hot air. Shri Mataji: Now, I'll blow in the mic, if you don't mind. That will have an effect, better. Keep the hands like that only and I'll blow. [LONG SILENCE WITH SOFT BLOWING SOUND] MOD: So, what is it people we'll be feeling now at home? Shri Mataji: It will be coming out. Now, what you have to see is that on your fingertips, also, you feel the cool breeze. ÊOn your fingertips and in the centre of your palms you'll feel the cool breeze. Maybe a little bit hot you might feel , if you have not forgiven yourself. Some may be there. You will feel it. And once you feel it, you should know that you are in connection with this all-pervading power of Divine Love, which is known also in the Bible. It's called as the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost. So that's the Ñ you start feeling now that your connection is established. But still, you have to grow into it and there are problems within you, so we have follow-ups and all that. We have centres everywhere where you can go and ask them and they will tell you what's wrong with you. That will correct you physically, mentally, emotionally and also spiritually. MOD: And we'll give you those details in just a few moments time. Keep to Liberty for more tunes, more chat and more fun and more from Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi and don't forget to give us a call if you've felt anything at home. [SONG] MOD: And my guest today is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Shri Mataji means Mother and I have to say we've seen from her quite an effect from ouraudience. We've had quite a few calls so far from people who are experiencing the cool and the warm air that you described. I should explain, if anyone's just joined us, that we just did an exercise on the radio with Shri Mataji, who is recognized worldwide for her pioneering work in awakening the natural healing energy that lies within every human being called the Kundalini. Now there's some awakening going on. What's the next stage then, Mother? Shri Mataji: Then you have to perfect yourself. You have to know everything about it. About a month, if you spend on this, you'll become a master yourself. You can give Realization to thousands yourself. MOD: Is it, is it really that easy though? Shri Mataji: Ya, ya [soft laugh]. MOD: I thought some people though Shri Mataji: It has to be very easy, isn't it, because so important. MOD: Absolutely, so more and more Shri Mataji: It's so vital. MOD: so more and more people can do it. Shri Mataji: It is the last breakthrough of our evolution, last breakthrough of our evolution. And it has to happen to all the people. The kundalini is present in all the people, whether they are this nationality, that nationality, colour, creed, religion, doesn'tmatter. Everybody has this power to rise above to this new realm, which Einstein has described: that once you get your Self Realization, you jump into the torsion area he called it. MOD: So, if we awaken it globally, do you envision, in time then, where we would reach, I suppose, a utopia, because a lot of people might say, Mother, who were listening, that there are so many bad things going on in the world. Would you argue that is because that Kundalini hasn't been awakened? Shri Mataji: No, because human beings are to be transformed. You see, human beings have all these weaknesses like greed, anger, hatred, all that. All these things you just forget. They just drop out and you become a beautiful personality, which loves and which enjoys. MOD: And you say this is something which can be awakened in all of us, everyone, anyone who is listening has the potential to do this? Shri Mataji: Ya. MOD: And you can actually learn how to do it yourself. There is an eight week series of follow-up programs which you mentioned, Mother. Shri Mataji: Yes, yes. MOD: Mother, in which you can learn more, to practise the techniques of Sahaja Yoga. We must stress, you don't part with any cash for this. The first two of these will be held on Wednesday the 14th of July at 7:30 p.m. and Wednesday the 21st of July at 7:30. They're on at the Great Hall, the Kensington Town Hall. So, if you did feel anything at home or perhaps you didn't but would still like to fi »nd out more, then you can call the Sahaja Yoga information line. That's 0181-9305621. That's 0181-9305621. There are also Sahaja Yoga centres in over eighty countries around the world. Those details available once again on 0181-9305621. Mother, it's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you very much for joining us. Shri Mataji: Thank you. Thank you very much. MOD: And the best of luck with everything in the future. Shri Mataji: Thank you. Thank you very much. MOD: Not at all. My pleasure entirely [SONG] MOD: if you've felt anything, ah, at all at home, even if you felt, ah, that you didn't feel a thing, then, ah, the Big Man has, ah, those details once again if you, ah, fancy going along this, ah, ver ky week. BIG MAN (with deep voice): "Ya, there's one this Wednesday, um, it kicks off, they all kick off at 7:30, and apparently you part with NO MONEY whatsoever - and this must be why, ah, one of the reasons why it's taken so long for This to come to the fore, because anything like this, if you're parting with money, they like to knock it down.But they're not asking you for any money. You go along, it's totally gratis, and there's one at Covent Gardens (tells all the Sahaja Yoga programs in London).And I believe there is a number, which I can't see, have you got the number there? There is a number- MOD: There is a number to call, which is 0181 B.M.: 9305621. Ah, any information that you need on Sahaja Yoga, that is the information hotline. And also, if you're, ah, netted up, you can point your browser at WWW.SAHAJA.ORG, Sahaja spellt s.a g.h.a.j.a.. And I can tell you, I did feel a little bit of the Breeze coming through. Um, so I, I don't know, I may have to pop along, because it was a, I don't know, peace, ah MOD: Very very str B.M.: very very strange MOD: strange experience. B.M.: Never have I experienced anything like, like that in the whole of my life. Seriously.

8/1/1999

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Guru Puja: Assimilating the Absolute Knowledge

Italy

Cabella Ligure

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Guru

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Guru puja, “Assimilating the Absolute Knowledge”, Cabella Ligure (Italy), 1 August 1999. Since we have come to Cabella, it is the ten years completed! So you can imagine how, in these ten years, we have been able to progress in Sahaja Yoga. Now, today, we are going to have a Guru puja. As I have said, you are all gurus and you want to worship me as your Guru - is alright - but the main thing one should understand [is] that you have become guru, no doubt, because you have the knowledge. You have the Absolute Knowledge, and so we can say you have become gurus, no doubt. But one has to understand that you have reached a state where you can raise the Kundalini, you can give Realisation to others. Also you know what is the Absolute Knowledge. To know the Absolute Knowledge is very important and to assimilate is even much more important. Though we know the Absolute Knowledge, we cannot assimilate it that well. That means we cannot go deep into it. What is the reason for that? We have to realise that we have all come out of the heritage that was the animal kingdom. From the animal kingdom you have evolved. So, there are so many things of the animal heritage [that] linger in us: the aggressiveness, the domination, peevishness, fear, grabbing. All these are our inheritance and they are within us, lingering. We want to grab things of others; not you people, of course not, but people who are not yet in Sahaja Yoga. They first used to grab lands, then they started grabbing people, making them slaves. Then they were not satisfied with that, so they were grabbing kingdoms, jewellery and all these things. So, just to grab now. They have no legal right, still they would grab. It seems very funny, it seems very inhuman, but it is there because of our inheritance. Now there are so many other things, like jealousy. Among animals, there is very little of that. They don't have jealousies so much as we have. While we have inherited this jealousy by our own reactions and thinking. People get jealous and they want to put down others. If they cannot achieve any height, they want to bring down the heights of others. This kind of jealousy, when it grabs human beings, they think [that] whatever is done in the name of jealousy is alright. They become very conscious that we are lower than another person, we lack in some talents than another person, and they try to overpower that other person because of the force of jealousy behind it. Now the trouble is, though we are human beings, we have inherited so many animal qualities: like, we are ferocious, we are angry, and we get upset, as animals do. But, additional to that, human beings can react because of their thinking. They think, they can think, and by thinking, all these inherited properties become perverted. Like a person wants to put down another person: then, he doesn't behave like an animal, in a straightforward way, but he will find out a device and method. He will think it over, how to do it. The main problem with human beings is that they still have inherited very violent temper. This violent temper has to be controlled, has to be seen. When you see something which you don't like, which is against your will, maybe something like that, immediately you flare up. Just now, I saw, instead of the camphor, they had put a sugar candy. To sugar candy, they were putting the match into it, matchstick. It would not take the fire. They tried and tried, it would not. So I said, “Let me see what is that.” So that was a sugar candy. If it was camphor, it would just flare up. So the quality of the person is known in the same way. If with the slightest provocation, he gets into temper and gets annoyed, then his quality is not very good as a guru. As a guru, we should not flare up, we should not get angry, we should not try to oppress others. “But what can we do then?” people will ask. We have another method - what we call is ‘love’. Love. Instead of getting angry, if you show love and compassion to that person. So what happens [is] that it doesn’t give you any anger and the another person, you don't make him angry also. The anger begets anger. If you get angry with somebody, that other person may not retort because he is afraid of you maybe there. But in his heart, he will keep a revenge in his mind, that, “One day, I will show him why should he get angry with me!” So, in Sahaja Yoga, please remember that love is the only way we can solve the problem. Now, if something goes wrong, say, in the ashram, if you get angry with that person, what will happen? That person will bear a grudge against you, perhaps. If he is a good Sahaja Yogi, he may realise that it was a wrong thing to do. But if he is a bad Sahaja Yogi, not yet fully equipped to understand, then what will he do? He will just feel that, “This man has insulted me, he has deliberately put me down and I should try to take a revenge!” Among animals, this activity is very limited. I don't think they believe in revenge, except for a few animals. They say that, if you hurt a snake, it will take its respite. It will come back on you. That’s what is said. And this one is one quality of the snake. But as we have passed through all these different categories, we might be having some of the qualities of some of these animals within us. We may be even snake animals. If the snake is within us, then anybody who hurts you, you will remember it all your life, “He hurt me, so I’ll put him right one day. I'll take a revenge!” - if there’s a snake within us. But now, if there's a tiger within you: so you will become very ferocious. At the smallest thing, you will get angry, lose temper. Now, this is not a very good situation: that we are still at the level of animals and our inheritance is still working in us. So we have to keep a watch, we have to be good gurus. And for a good guru, you have to have a very peaceful, compassionate, loving temperament. After all, one has to understand that people have this inheritance and some people have more, some people have this or some people have that. For that, if you get angry with that person it's not going to help him or help you, but if you are loving and compassionate and you explain [to] that person what the problem is and what you want to do, I tell you, it will improve. He’ll definitely improve and he’ll feel your love. Of course, sometimes, sometimes it’s necessary to also forgive such a person. Such a person is to be forgiven, absolutely. In that it doesn’t mean that, if he has done wrongs, all kinds of wrongs, you forgive him, and he goes on still with the same. It doesn't mean that. ‘Forgiven’ means ‘forgotten’. Such and such a person has been misbehaving, so just forget. Forget it. Completely forget it! For a guru it is important, for a Sahaja Yogi guru. I must say other gurus were not like that. They were absolutely, extremely hot-tempered and they used to lose temper on people. Once I met a guru and he told me, “Mother you are too kind to them and with this kindness you cannot create good people. I have had enough of it!” he said. “I had made two people into gurus. And one of them got lost in the money.” “Alright, what happened to the second?” “And second one got lost in the women.” So, I said, “Now it's alright, if they are lost, they are lost. But if you can revive them with your love, affection and kindness, better get around them!” I think if you open that door, people sitting outside can also hear me. Who are those sitting outside? Open it fully. Of course! Let them move to this side. Now, it's better. So as a guru, you must conclude that they are still lingering with their inheritance. But the second problem is much worse because human beings can think. Of course, animals also think, but it is always conditioning. Whatever conditioning they have, accordingly they behave. But they don't have ego, that kind, as human beings have developed. So the gurus develop also a very bad ego. The first ego is, others gurus I have seen, they told me that, “We have done so much! We have worked so hard to achieve this state, and why should we give Realisations to others?” Or, if they have got Realisation, then, “What have they done? Why should they get Realisation?” It’s become a comparison between their own state and how they achieved it and how others have to achieve it. So they make all kinds of different torturing, troubling manoeuvres. For example, they may make the disciple stand on his head, give his family up, do this, do that. They’ll beat, they can beat also. They will make him stay in the water for a long time. Make him stand on one foot. Like this they punish. And [if] worse comes to worse, they may beat with sticks or with stones. They are like that. They don't want to talk. They don't want to understand what the another person has to say, or the ones who are seekers, how they should be treated. All this anger and all these things might have been alright before, but after the advent of Sahaja Yoga, you must know, it is not necessary. It's not at all necessary to give any physical punishment to your disciples. Now, also the mental punishment to your disciples should not be done. Like people start saying all kinds of things to their disciples. Like, say, there is a leader, and the leader finds something wrong with the disciple, then he goes on saying, “Now, you are like this. Your father was like this, your grandfather was like this, your great-grandfather was like this and you are also like this!” Or some sort of thing that will hurt him. By hurting a person, you are not going to help. Supposing, while walking, you are hurt - you can't walk. In your spiritual ascent also, if you are hurt, you cannot go ahead. So not to hurt people is very important. Once you go on hurting others then you are not a good guru. You are not a one who is really being kind and understanding of the disciple. In Sahaja Yoga, it's a different thing altogether. Because you all have achieved Sahaja Yoga without doing any kind of penance, any kind of guilty consciousness, confessions, anything. Nothing! As you are, you got your Realisation. Nobody had to stand on their heads, give up their husbands, wives, their family - nothing of that kind. As you are, whatever dress you are wearing, whatever conditions you are, you are given Realisation - is a fact. You don't have to pay for it. You don't have to exert yourself. Don't have to do anything. Just you get it, sitting down, wherever you are. After that, this kind of a happening should prove to you that you have a power of love, of compassion. Out of your love you have given Realisation to others. We have never realise that. Supposing we are anxious to give Realisation to people, we want to go to the villages, work there, and give them Realisation. Why? Why do we do it? It is not for any fame, not for any reward or anything, but just out of the love that is in your heart, that you feel, “Why am I enjoying everything? Why others are not enjoying?” And so you go out of the way to help people to get their Realisation. Now you have become a greater human being and you feel concerned [that] others are getting ruined, they are getting on the wrong path, they are doing wrong things, and that makes you feel very, very upset and you want to help them. And this understanding, once you have, then you will know how to deal with the person with whom you have to behave like a guru. Mostly it is not necessary to say anything harsh to that person. At the most you can tell the mistakes that they are committing. But that doing in such a soft manner that a person doesn’t get any shock out of that. All this thing of attachments also: Now, somebody has too much attachment, say, for the family, for the wife, for the husband, children or something. And once they come to Sahaj Yog, still they have the same amount of attachment - alright, doesn’t matter. But how far they will go with that attachment, how long it will continue, is the point. You should be detached. If I say, you cannot be. It’s a state. It’s a state of mind when you are detached. But when it comes to doing something for them, you will go all out to help them. But you are not an attached person. Now what is the description of an attached person? An attached person is always worried about the other person. He goes on thinking about the other person. He cannot think of Sahaja Yoga, only think of the people with whom he is attached. Then he is very sensitive. You can't say anything to his brother, sister or anyone, otherwise he jumps. Attachment is also with the name that he has. Supposing he has achieved a certain name, supposing, or some big position, then what does he do? You can't challenge him [in] any way. You cannot, by any words, you can challenge him because he is so identified with that. He thinks he’s a big person who has achieved such a lot of positions in life. He’s so much attached that he wants the guru to pay respect to that attachment. Now, which is the way you can solve that problem? Supposing somebody is very much attached to his wife, say, for example, then you should not discuss and argue with that person, not at all, because he is still coming up slowly, slowly, up to this stage. Such a person is not absolutely a perfect Sahaja Yogi. So what do you have to do? If he is attached to his wife, let it be. But the Divine will work it out and he will realise that what he has been thinking, doing and taking decisions is all wrong. And once he discovers it himself, then he will get detached. But if you go on telling him anything and trying to argue it out, it will never work out. So you must understand that, as human beings, whatever we were, also as Sahaja Yogis, we have problems, and these should be slowly, slowly, should be dissolved. Not by argument, not by saying things, but by love and compassion. If you have love for a person: you will be amazed, ninety-nine percent people value love. This is the third quality of human beings, I should say. First is his inheritance, second is he thinks and thirdly that he values love. Anybody who loves, the another person values that love, because he thinks that, “This particular person is loving me, not my wealth, not my beauty, not my this thing, but he is loving me!” And this idea of love, this is something that will get him completely detached from that person, easily. How? Now, it looks very funny that, if you like somebody, if you love somebody, and then you should get detached. It’s only possible in Sahaja Yoga. In Sahaja Yoga, your state of mind is such that you are absolutely detached and absolutely attached. How? For example, now, say, I have my daughter: So I am detached. I never telephone to her, I am never bothered about her. Because in Sahaja Yoga you know how is that person. If the vibrations are right, why should you telephone? Why should you talk to her? Why should you ask for anything? No need. Only on vibrations, you will know how the person is. And so it will seem that you are absolutely detached. But when you will find the vibrations are showing or are indicating something serious about that person, what you will do [is] you will put full attention to that. Full attention! You put attention, but not attachment. So the attachment doesn’t solve the problem. What solves the problem is attention. But when you are not detached, then your attention is [an] attached attention. It's an attention that is not available to everyone and [an] attention that gets stuck, absolutely stuck into that person with whom you are identified. Now try to understand it! So to be identified with someone is not actually, what we can say, paying attention to that person. And then your attention will work. If you are of that level, whenever you put attention to that particular person who needs your attention, it will work out. But if you are all the time wasting your attention on a person because you are attached to that person, your attention will be tired, it won't work out. It's a big paradox that if you are attached to someone, then your attention does not work. And if you are not attached to that person, you'll do everything else. Now, you have to give lecture alright I’m giving lecture, then I have to do some cooking [so] I'll do cooking; this, that, that and that. But all the time you are thinking about that person, all the time you want to have connection with that person. It’s not necessary. That person is alright. What is there to be so much worried about that person? After all, you have to do Sahaja Yoga, you have to do so many things, you have to raise Kundalini of so many. Now you are getting attached to one person somewhere. It’s not a very good thing? By that kind of attachment also, your attention becomes useless, absolutely useless. So let the attention be free. Attention should not be bound by your attachments. Attention should be absolutely free so [that] it works automatically, automatically. And you will be amazed [that] even if you do not pay attention, the attention will work it out. It is such a great thing to have that spiritual attention, which is nothing but love. It will just act. You will be amazed how it will acts. It's another world I am talking about, not this mundane world, but something higher, where your attention works and works so beautifully that you are amazed how it has worked. But you should not bound it by your attachments. If it is bound you can have a very limited sphere [of] only the people to whom you are attached, you are attached to those persons. That's why identification (with others) is not the way a guru should work it out. Now, there are ten disciples and one guru, and the guru only likes one. He thinks, “He is the best and he should be encouraged and should be given all the possible help.” But that’s not going to help! What, on the contrary, he should say is, “This is already a good fellow. He has risen very high. He has gone very deep.” So pay attention to those who are not so good and talk to them about it that. “You have to come up.” In a very sweet manner. You have to talk to these other people who are not yet there or who are still struggling. You have to understand them. You have to notice: What are they doing? Why is it they are not improving or rising in their attention? What is the problem? Why the Divine is not flowing through them? And you will find the reason for this - that people do not have good attention - is because it is focused on someone all the time, and they feel it is their responsibility that it should be focused. It's just to give an explanation. It’s just an explanation to say that “You see, naturally, I have to be worried about this and worried about that!” It's just an explanation. But if you really don't fix your attention to one person or ten persons only then your attention looks after the whole world. It receives all the information and also it gives all the information [about] what is to be done to correct the situation. So one has to rise into that state where you do not get angry, annoyed, upset. No, not at all. What happens to you [is] that you see a situation and in that you are not involved. You see the situation and you are away from it. Then you can solve their problem better. But if you are part and parcel of that problem, then you cannot solve. It's like this, I was telling you, that those who are fighting cannot solve the problem, but a person who is not fighting can solve the problem. So it’s a very simple thing to understand that, if you are identified, if you are involved with one person or with one kind of a thing, then you are lost. So our attention has to be always free and can be applied widely, wherever needed. That is the state one has to reach. If you reach that state of mind…It's not I am saying you can do anything about it, it’s just a state of mind. Now, how do we do that? Only through introspection! Through introspection you will understand that you need help to solve your problems. Firstly, the problem is how to face yourself because you are a little bit shy or maybe nervous about it. As the time comes, you will be amazed that this nervousness has no meaning at all. When you try to be deliberate about it, then it won't work out, but if you are sahaj it will work out. So we come to the second point, apart from the attention, that we should leave everything into the hands of Paramchaitanya. Let the Paramchaitanya solve the problem. “This is the problem. Let Paramchaitanya solve the problem. We are not bothered!” So a detachment comes in. You give the whole thing to Paramchaitanya to solve. So you are not in it, you are away from it. Very, very simple things are there. If you understand that we suffer because everybody feels responsible for us. Everybody thinks they are responsible, they have to do this responsibility for us. Somebody says, this responsibility he has to do. All these things are worrying them and that is the reason, today, [that] we have a very complex society. They are suffering from all kinds of diseases, for which, only thinking is responsible. By this thinking, all the time - thinking about one person, thinking about one problem - you reach nowhere. At that moment, what you have to do is to leave it to the Paramchaitanya. If it goes to the Paramchaitanya, It will manage, It will solve the problem. Now I will tell you one thing, an experience: this time I was in America and we wanted to have a puja there. So I said, “Alright, let them come for the puja. It's nice if they want to come.” Then they told me that, “Mother, we want to bring presents for you, for the puja, so how can we bring the presents?” I said, “It's very simple: you don't bring!” But they wouldn't listen to that. They said, “We'll have to bring, and the customs will trouble us and do this and do that.” So there was only one building ahead, another building, where they were having a liquidation sale. I said, “This is something nice! One can have a look at it.” So I went in and I found things so cheap, unbelievable! Very, very expensive things for throw-away prices! I was amazed how it is there. So I told them, “I can purchase all these things. I'll pay you. But you bring all these things to Canajoharie.” They agreed, “Alright, we’ll bring this to Canajoharie.” And they brought all the things, all packed nicely and gave it to Sahaja Yogis. We had no problem of Customs or anything. I paid them there. How things can be improved by understanding what is the most important thing - is to love. But love is truth and truth is love. If you have love for somebody, genuine love, then anything you want to do with that person will be absolutely obvious because it will be truthful. Anything you say to such a person will be absolutely obvious, clear-cut, because it is absolutely truthful. So when you are dealing with somebody, also, you should be extremely truthful. Of course, you need not say things that will hurt him, but you must use such ways and methods that will not, in any way, hurt the other person [but] which will have an effect on that person. So this kind of a gurus we need now, very much, in Sahaja Yoga, because Sahaja Yoga has spread a lot. So first of all, our temper has to be brought into proper shape. A guru has no business, I mean the Sahaja Yogi guru, has no business to lose temper, at all, on any point whatsoever. If they can really do that much, it will save our so much of worry, so much of problems, so much of mess we create. All this can be solved very easily, but first we must have pure love in our heart, not love out of some gain or out of some sort of reward, but pure love, if we have, then we can work it out, very easily, anything that you want to do. This is a very lengthy thing which can go on forever because, after all, the gurus have to know what are their duties and why they are gurus. It’s [a] very important, very important position that they are gurus. And they should use that position for exhibiting tremendous understanding of their disciple. And also their purpose should be clear-cut. People should not doubt him, should not think, “Why he is doing such and such things?” It should not be a mystery. It should absolutely be clear-cut. All these things I am telling you today because today we have completed our ten years of stay in Cabella. Cabella has been extremely kind to me, brought lots of people to Sahaja Yoga, I tell you - very lots of people. It is a very far-fetched place. Everybody discarded it and said, “Where are you going to live?” and all that. But here only it has worked and that should be accepted as a very good indication that Sahaja Yoga does miraculous things - miraculous. But the foremost thing is [that] you must know vibrations. If you don't know about vibrations then you can't do it. For example, when I first came to Cabella, everybody told me, “Mother, [It’s a] very lonely place. There are mafias around. Only six, seven houses there. Where are you going? What is this?” They all warned me. So I came here and immediately I told the mayor, “I am going to buy it and tomorrow I'll pay you the money.” He was surprised [as to] how can I do that. I said, "Don't worry! It’s perfectly alright.” On vibrations it was. On vibrations I decided that this is a wonderful place and the vibrations helped me so much [at] that time. Though everybody discouraged me and everybody gave me a very big picture, a horrible one. But still, where is the mafia now? It’s gone, finished! Now, to know about the thing, you have to meditate and improve your vision, which should be clear-cut. It should not be something, a vision which is reflecting your particular ideas about particular things but it should be a vision which should be clear-cut to you. With Sahaja Yoga one has to know the protection of the Goddess is on top of your head! Nothing can go wrong with you, nothing will happen to you, it will all work out. I am sure you will yourself experience it. You see, talking about Sahaja Yoga like this, you just get meditative, you just get meditative, and you feel that one day all of you should become like that - just meditative. And this meditative temperament, or whatever, is the state [which] emits vibrations. It emits and creates a path for you, for your work, for your life, for everything. You don’t have to struggle with anyone, you don’t have to fight with anyone, you don’t have to argue with anyone. Just try to meditate and achieve a state which I am describing to you, where you get completely surrounded by love and affection. May God bless you all. There’s one thing [which] is important to understand, that you should not go to extremes of everything - which is also a human quality. For example, if they are rational, they go on rationalising everything, “I can’t do this, I can’t do that,” something like that goes on. The second part of it is that they become very emotional and they become so emotional that they start doing wrong things in the name of emotionality. You have to overcome these two things. If you have not overcome that, what’s the use? What’s the use of calling yourselves Sahaja Yogis? Minimum of minimum, this much you must do. Going to the extremes must be avoided. Keep a watch upon yourself. If you are going to the extremes, nothing will work out. You might develop cancer, then develop horrible diseases on one side. And on the other side you might become a very rational person and no Sahaja Yoga will enter your head. So you have to keep the balance all the time. And with that balance, like, somebody is a Sahaja Yogini and she has done something very wrong, then you should not become emotionally attached, “Oh, Mother. What is it? We should forgive her.” No. You tell her that, “You must improve your vibrations and must come to balance. And once you are in balance, then I will consider your case. Then I will say it is so or not.” But if he has no balance, he goes into rationality, he goes into emotional things. And this emotional business can take you to any nonsensical thing, as it is a psychological case. And one can go into very, very wrong things that they are doing out of this emotional thing. See, like even singing of songs that are neurotic, or anything, you see. All this emotional thing can take you anywhere. So to be emotional is not needed and you must love. And Left one is what you can call another extreme. One side is emotional, another is rational. In rationality, you can start justifying anything, like Hitler did. He said, “No this was right. What I was doing was right!” He took something into his head and “Now, this is right!” This is rationality. So both things are to be properly balanced and you should see that, whatever you are doing, are giving you a proper result. So thank you very much again and again. May God bless you.

Guru puja, “Assimilating the Absolute Knowledge”, Cabella Ligure (Italy), 1 August 1999. Since we have come to Cabella, it is the ten years completed! So you can imagine how, in these ten years, we have been able to progress in Sahaja Yoga. Now, today, we are going to have a Guru puja. As I have said, you are all gurus and you want to worship me as your Guru - is alright - but the main thing one should understand [is] that you have become guru, no doubt, because you have the knowledge. You have the Absolute Knowledge, and so we can say you have become gurus, no doubt. But one has to understand that you have reached a state where you can raise the Kundalini, you can give Realisation to others. Also you know what is the Absolute Knowledge. To know the Absolute Knowledge is very important and to assimilate is even much more important. Though we know the Absolute Knowledge, we cannot assimilate it that well. That means we cannot go deep into it. What is the reason for that? We have to realise that we have all come out of the heritage that was the animal kingdom. From the animal kingdom you have evolved. So, there are so many things of the animal heritage [that] linger in us: the aggressiveness, the domination, peevishness, fear, grabbing. All these are our inheritance and they are within us, lingering. We want to grab things of others; not you people, of course not, but people who are not yet in Sahaja Yoga. They first used to grab lands, then they started grabbing people, making them slaves. Then they were not satisfied with that, so they were grabbing kingdoms, jewellery and all these things. So, just to grab now. They have no legal right, still they would grab. It seems very funny, it seems very inhuman, but it is there because of our inheritance. Now there are so many other things, like jealousy. Among animals, there is very little of that. They don't have jealousies so much as we have. While we have inherited this jealousy by our own reactions and thinking. People get jealous and they want to put down others. If they cannot achieve any height, they want to bring down the heights of others. This kind of jealousy, when it grabs human beings, they think [that] whatever is done in the name of jealousy is alright. They become very conscious that we are lower than another person, we lack in some talents than another person, and they try to overpower that other person because of the force of jealousy behind it. Now the trouble is, though we are human beings, we have inherited so many animal qualities: like, we are ferocious, we are angry, and we get upset, as animals do. But, additional to that, human beings can react because of their thinking. They think, they can think, and by thinking, all these inherited properties become perverted. Like a person wants to put down another person: then, he doesn't behave like an animal, in a straightforward way, but he will find out a device and method. He will think it over, how to do it. The main problem with human beings is that they still have inherited very violent temper. This violent temper has to be controlled, has to be seen. When you see something which you don't like, which is against your will, maybe something like that, immediately you flare up. Just now, I saw, instead of the camphor, they had put a sugar candy. To sugar candy, they were putting the match into it, matchstick. It would not take the fire. They tried and tried, it would not. So I said, “Let me see what is that.” So that was a sugar candy. If it was camphor, it would just flare up. So the quality of the person is known in the same way. If with the slightest provocation, he gets into temper and gets annoyed, then his quality is not very good as a guru. As a guru, we should not flare up, we should not get angry, we should not try to oppress others. “But what can we do then?” people will ask. We have another method - what we call is ‘love’. Love. Instead of getting angry, if you show love and compassion to that person. So what happens [is] that it doesn’t give you any anger and the another person, you don't make him angry also. The anger begets anger. If you get angry with somebody, that other person may not retort because he is afraid of you maybe there. But in his heart, he will keep a revenge in his mind, that, “One day, I will show him why should he get angry with me!” So, in Sahaja Yoga, please remember that love is the only way we can solve the problem. Now, if something goes wrong, say, in the ashram, if you get angry with that person, what will happen? That person will bear a grudge against you, perhaps. If he is a good Sahaja Yogi, he may realise that it was a wrong thing to do. But if he is a bad Sahaja Yogi, not yet fully equipped to understand, then what will he do? He will just feel that, “This man has insulted me, he has deliberately put me down and I should try to take a revenge!” Among animals, this activity is very limited. I don't think they believe in revenge, except for a few animals. They say that, if you hurt a snake, it will take its respite. It will come back on you. That’s what is said. And this one is one quality of the snake. But as we have passed through all these different categories, we might be having some of the qualities of some of these animals within us. We may be even snake animals. If the snake is within us, then anybody who hurts you, you will remember it all your life, “He hurt me, so I’ll put him right one day. I'll take a revenge!” - if there’s a snake within us. But now, if there's a tiger within you: so you will become very ferocious. At the smallest thing, you will get angry, lose temper. Now, this is not a very good situation: that we are still at the level of animals and our inheritance is still working in us. So we have to keep a watch, we have to be good gurus. And for a good guru, you have to have a very peaceful, compassionate, loving temperament. After all, one has to understand that people have this inheritance and some people have more, some people have this or some people have that. For that, if you get angry with that person it's not going to help him or help you, but if you are loving and compassionate and you explain [to] that person what the problem is and what you want to do, I tell you, it will improve. He’ll definitely improve and he’ll feel your love. Of course, sometimes, sometimes it’s necessary to also forgive such a person. Such a person is to be forgiven, absolutely. In that it doesn’t mean that, if he has done wrongs, all kinds of wrongs, you forgive him, and he goes on still with the same. It doesn't mean that. ‘Forgiven’ means ‘forgotten’. Such and such a person has been misbehaving, so just forget. Forget it. Completely forget it! For a guru it is important, for a Sahaja Yogi guru. I must say other gurus were not like that. They were absolutely, extremely hot-tempered and they used to lose temper on people. Once I met a guru and he told me, “Mother you are too kind to them and with this kindness you cannot create good people. I have had enough of it!” he said. “I had made two people into gurus. And one of them got lost in the money.” “Alright, what happened to the second?” “And second one got lost in the women.” So, I said, “Now it's alright, if they are lost, they are lost. But if you can revive them with your love, affection and kindness, better get around them!” I think if you open that door, people sitting outside can also hear me. Who are those sitting outside? Open it fully. Of course! Let them move to this side. Now, it's better. So as a guru, you must conclude that they are still lingering with their inheritance. But the second problem is much worse because human beings can think. Of course, animals also think, but it is always conditioning. Whatever conditioning they have, accordingly they behave. But they don't have ego, that kind, as human beings have developed. So the gurus develop also a very bad ego. The first ego is, others gurus I have seen, they told me that, “We have done so much! We have worked so hard to achieve this state, and why should we give Realisations to others?” Or, if they have got Realisation, then, “What have they done? Why should they get Realisation?” It’s become a comparison between their own state and how they achieved it and how others have to achieve it. So they make all kinds of different torturing, troubling manoeuvres. For example, they may make the disciple stand on his head, give his family up, do this, do that. They’ll beat, they can beat also. They will make him stay in the water for a long time. Make him stand on one foot. Like this they punish. And [if] worse comes to worse, they may beat with sticks or with stones. They are like that. They don't want to talk. They don't want to understand what the another person has to say, or the ones who are seekers, how they should be treated. All this anger and all these things might have been alright before, but after the advent of Sahaja Yoga, you must know, it is not necessary. It's not at all necessary to give any physical punishment to your disciples. Now, also the mental punishment to your disciples should not be done. Like people start saying all kinds of things to their disciples. Like, say, there is a leader, and the leader finds something wrong with the disciple, then he goes on saying, “Now, you are like this. Your father was like this, your grandfather was like this, your great-grandfather was like this and you are also like this!” Or some sort of thing that will hurt him. By hurting a person, you are not going to help. Supposing, while walking, you are hurt - you can't walk. In your spiritual ascent also, if you are hurt, you cannot go ahead. So not to hurt people is very important. Once you go on hurting others then you are not a good guru. You are not a one who is really being kind and understanding of the disciple. In Sahaja Yoga, it's a different thing altogether. Because you all have achieved Sahaja Yoga without doing any kind of penance, any kind of guilty consciousness, confessions, anything. Nothing! As you are, you got your Realisation. Nobody had to stand on their heads, give up their husbands, wives, their family - nothing of that kind. As you are, whatever dress you are wearing, whatever conditions you are, you are given Realisation - is a fact. You don't have to pay for it. You don't have to exert yourself. Don't have to do anything. Just you get it, sitting down, wherever you are. After that, this kind of a happening should prove to you that you have a power of love, of compassion. Out of your love you have given Realisation to others. We have never realise that. Supposing we are anxious to give Realisation to people, we want to go to the villages, work there, and give them Realisation. Why? Why do we do it? It is not for any fame, not for any reward or anything, but just out of the love that is in your heart, that you feel, “Why am I enjoying everything? Why others are not enjoying?” And so you go out of the way to help people to get their Realisation. Now you have become a greater human being and you feel concerned [that] others are getting ruined, they are getting on the wrong path, they are doing wrong things, and that makes you feel very, very upset and you want to help them. And this understanding, once you have, then you will know how to deal with the person with whom you have to behave like a guru. Mostly it is not necessary to say anything harsh to that person. At the most you can tell the mistakes that they are committing. But that doing in such a soft manner that a person doesn’t get any shock out of that. All this thing of attachments also: Now, somebody has too much attachment, say, for the family, for the wife, for the husband, children or something. And once they come to Sahaj Yog, still they have the same amount of attachment - alright, doesn’t matter. But how far they will go with that attachment, how long it will continue, is the point. You should be detached. If I say, you cannot be. It’s a state. It’s a state of mind when you are detached. But when it comes to doing something for them, you will go all out to help them. But you are not an attached person. Now what is the description of an attached person? An attached person is always worried about the other person. He goes on thinking about the other person. He cannot think of Sahaja Yoga, only think of the people with whom he is attached. Then he is very sensitive. You can't say anything to his brother, sister or anyone, otherwise he jumps. Attachment is also with the name that he has. Supposing he has achieved a certain name, supposing, or some big position, then what does he do? You can't challenge him [in] any way. You cannot, by any words, you can challenge him because he is so identified with that. He thinks he’s a big person who has achieved such a lot of positions in life. He’s so much attached that he wants the guru to pay respect to that attachment. Now, which is the way you can solve that problem? Supposing somebody is very much attached to his wife, say, for example, then you should not discuss and argue with that person, not at all, because he is still coming up slowly, slowly, up to this stage. Such a person is not absolutely a perfect Sahaja Yogi. So what do you have to do? If he is attached to his wife, let it be. But the Divine will work it out and he will realise that what he has been thinking, doing and taking decisions is all wrong. And once he discovers it himself, then he will get detached. But if you go on telling him anything and trying to argue it out, it will never work out. So you must understand that, as human beings, whatever we were, also as Sahaja Yogis, we have problems, and these should be slowly, slowly, should be dissolved. Not by argument, not by saying things, but by love and compassion. If you have love for a person: you will be amazed, ninety-nine percent people value love. This is the third quality of human beings, I should say. First is his inheritance, second is he thinks and thirdly that he values love. Anybody who loves, the another person values that love, because he thinks that, “This particular person is loving me, not my wealth, not my beauty, not my this thing, but he is loving me!” And this idea of love, this is something that will get him completely detached from that person, easily. How? Now, it looks very funny that, if you like somebody, if you love somebody, and then you should get detached. It’s only possible in Sahaja Yoga. In Sahaja Yoga, your state of mind is such that you are absolutely detached and absolutely attached. How? For example, now, say, I have my daughter: So I am detached. I never telephone to her, I am never bothered about her. Because in Sahaja Yoga you know how is that person. If the vibrations are right, why should you telephone? Why should you talk to her? Why should you ask for anything? No need. Only on vibrations, you will know how the person is. And so it will seem that you are absolutely detached. But when you will find the vibrations are showing or are indicating something serious about that person, what you will do [is] you will put full attention to that. Full attention! You put attention, but not attachment. So the attachment doesn’t solve the problem. What solves the problem is attention. But when you are not detached, then your attention is [an] attached attention. It's an attention that is not available to everyone and [an] attention that gets stuck, absolutely stuck into that person with whom you are identified. Now try to understand it! So to be identified with someone is not actually, what we can say, paying attention to that person. And then your attention will work. If you are of that level, whenever you put attention to that particular person who needs your attention, it will work out. But if you are all the time wasting your attention on a person because you are attached to that person, your attention will be tired, it won't work out. It's a big paradox that if you are attached to someone, then your attention does not work. And if you are not attached to that person, you'll do everything else. Now, you have to give lecture alright I’m giving lecture, then I have to do some cooking [so] I'll do cooking; this, that, that and that. But all the time you are thinking about that person, all the time you want to have connection with that person. It’s not necessary. That person is alright. What is there to be so much worried about that person? After all, you have to do Sahaja Yoga, you have to do so many things, you have to raise Kundalini of so many. Now you are getting attached to one person somewhere. It’s not a very good thing? By that kind of attachment also, your attention becomes useless, absolutely useless. So let the attention be free. Attention should not be bound by your attachments. Attention should be absolutely free so [that] it works automatically, automatically. And you will be amazed [that] even if you do not pay attention, the attention will work it out. It is such a great thing to have that spiritual attention, which is nothing but love. It will just act. You will be amazed how it will acts. It's another world I am talking about, not this mundane world, but something higher, where your attention works and works so beautifully that you are amazed how it has worked. But you should not bound it by your attachments. If it is bound you can have a very limited sphere [of] only the people to whom you are attached, you are attached to those persons. That's why identification (with others) is not the way a guru should work it out. Now, there are ten disciples and one guru, and the guru only likes one. He thinks, “He is the best and he should be encouraged and should be given all the possible help.” But that’s not going to help! What, on the contrary, he should say is, “This is already a good fellow. He has risen very high. He has gone very deep.” So pay attention to those who are not so good and talk to them about it that. “You have to come up.” In a very sweet manner. You have to talk to these other people who are not yet there or who are still struggling. You have to understand them. You have to notice: What are they doing? Why is it they are not improving or rising in their attention? What is the problem? Why the Divine is not flowing through them? And you will find the reason for this - that people do not have good attention - is because it is focused on someone all the time, and they feel it is their responsibility that it should be focused. It's just to give an explanation. It’s just an explanation to say that “You see, naturally, I have to be worried about this and worried about that!” It's just an explanation. But if you really don't fix your attention to one person or ten persons only then your attention looks after the whole world. It receives all the information and also it gives all the information [about] what is to be done to correct the situation. So one has to rise into that state where you do not get angry, annoyed, upset. No, not at all. What happens to you [is] that you see a situation and in that you are not involved. You see the situation and you are away from it. Then you can solve their problem better. But if you are part and parcel of that problem, then you cannot solve. It's like this, I was telling you, that those who are fighting cannot solve the problem, but a person who is not fighting can solve the problem. So it’s a very simple thing to understand that, if you are identified, if you are involved with one person or with one kind of a thing, then you are lost. So our attention has to be always free and can be applied widely, wherever needed. That is the state one has to reach. If you reach that state of mind…It's not I am saying you can do anything about it, it’s just a state of mind. Now, how do we do that? Only through introspection! Through introspection you will understand that you need help to solve your problems. Firstly, the problem is how to face yourself because you are a little bit shy or maybe nervous about it. As the time comes, you will be amazed that this nervousness has no meaning at all. When you try to be deliberate about it, then it won't work out, but if you are sahaj it will work out. So we come to the second point, apart from the attention, that we should leave everything into the hands of Paramchaitanya. Let the Paramchaitanya solve the problem. “This is the problem. Let Paramchaitanya solve the problem. We are not bothered!” So a detachment comes in. You give the whole thing to Paramchaitanya to solve. So you are not in it, you are away from it. Very, very simple things are there. If you understand that we suffer because everybody feels responsible for us. Everybody thinks they are responsible, they have to do this responsibility for us. Somebody says, this responsibility he has to do. All these things are worrying them and that is the reason, today, [that] we have a very complex society. They are suffering from all kinds of diseases, for which, only thinking is responsible. By this thinking, all the time - thinking about one person, thinking about one problem - you reach nowhere. At that moment, what you have to do is to leave it to the Paramchaitanya. If it goes to the Paramchaitanya, It will manage, It will solve the problem. Now I will tell you one thing, an experience: this time I was in America and we wanted to have a puja there. So I said, “Alright, let them come for the puja. It's nice if they want to come.” Then they told me that, “Mother, we want to bring presents for you, for the puja, so how can we bring the presents?” I said, “It's very simple: you don't bring!” But they wouldn't listen to that. They said, “We'll have to bring, and the customs will trouble us and do this and do that.” So there was only one building ahead, another building, where they were having a liquidation sale. I said, “This is something nice! One can have a look at it.” So I went in and I found things so cheap, unbelievable! Very, very expensive things for throw-away prices! I was amazed how it is there. So I told them, “I can purchase all these things. I'll pay you. But you bring all these things to Canajoharie.” They agreed, “Alright, we’ll bring this to Canajoharie.” And they brought all the things, all packed nicely and gave it to Sahaja Yogis. We had no problem of Customs or anything. I paid them there. How things can be improved by understanding what is the most important thing - is to love. But love is truth and truth is love. If you have love for somebody, genuine love, then anything you want to do with that person will be absolutely obvious because it will be truthful. Anything you say to such a person will be absolutely obvious, clear-cut, because it is absolutely truthful. So when you are dealing with somebody, also, you should be extremely truthful. Of course, you need not say things that will hurt him, but you must use such ways and methods that will not, in any way, hurt the other person [but] which will have an effect on that person. So this kind of a gurus we need now, very much, in Sahaja Yoga, because Sahaja Yoga has spread a lot. So first of all, our temper has to be brought into proper shape. A guru has no business, I mean the Sahaja Yogi guru, has no business to lose temper, at all, on any point whatsoever. If they can really do that much, it will save our so much of worry, so much of problems, so much of mess we create. All this can be solved very easily, but first we must have pure love in our heart, not love out of some gain or out of some sort of reward, but pure love, if we have, then we can work it out, very easily, anything that you want to do. This is a very lengthy thing which can go on forever because, after all, the gurus have to know what are their duties and why they are gurus. It’s [a] very important, very important position that they are gurus. And they should use that position for exhibiting tremendous understanding of their disciple. And also their purpose should be clear-cut. People should not doubt him, should not think, “Why he is doing such and such things?” It should not be a mystery. It should absolutely be clear-cut. All these things I am telling you today because today we have completed our ten years of stay in Cabella. Cabella has been extremely kind to me, brought lots of people to Sahaja Yoga, I tell you - very lots of people. It is a very far-fetched place. Everybody discarded it and said, “Where are you going to live?” and all that. But here only it has worked and that should be accepted as a very good indication that Sahaja Yoga does miraculous things - miraculous. But the foremost thing is [that] you must know vibrations. If you don't know about vibrations then you can't do it. For example, when I first came to Cabella, everybody told me, “Mother, [It’s a] very lonely place. There are mafias around. Only six, seven houses there. Where are you going? What is this?” They all warned me. So I came here and immediately I told the mayor, “I am going to buy it and tomorrow I'll pay you the money.” He was surprised [as to] how can I do that. I said, "Don't worry! It’s perfectly alright.” On vibrations it was. On vibrations I decided that this is a wonderful place and the vibrations helped me so much [at] that time. Though everybody discouraged me and everybody gave me a very big picture, a horrible one. But still, where is the mafia now? It’s gone, finished! Now, to know about the thing, you have to meditate and improve your vision, which should be clear-cut. It should not be something, a vision which is reflecting your particular ideas about particular things but it should be a vision which should be clear-cut to you. With Sahaja Yoga one has to know the protection of the Goddess is on top of your head! Nothing can go wrong with you, nothing will happen to you, it will all work out. I am sure you will yourself experience it. You see, talking about Sahaja Yoga like this, you just get meditative, you just get meditative, and you feel that one day all of you should become like that - just meditative. And this meditative temperament, or whatever, is the state [which] emits vibrations. It emits and creates a path for you, for your work, for your life, for everything. You don’t have to struggle with anyone, you don’t have to fight with anyone, you don’t have to argue with anyone. Just try to meditate and achieve a state which I am describing to you, where you get completely surrounded by love and affection. May God bless you all. There’s one thing [which] is important to understand, that you should not go to extremes of everything - which is also a human quality. For example, if they are rational, they go on rationalising everything, “I can’t do this, I can’t do that,” something like that goes on. The second part of it is that they become very emotional and they become so emotional that they start doing wrong things in the name of emotionality. You have to overcome these two things. If you have not overcome that, what’s the use? What’s the use of calling yourselves Sahaja Yogis? Minimum of minimum, this much you must do. Going to the extremes must be avoided. Keep a watch upon yourself. If you are going to the extremes, nothing will work out. You might develop cancer, then develop horrible diseases on one side. And on the other side you might become a very rational person and no Sahaja Yoga will enter your head. So you have to keep the balance all the time. And with that balance, like, somebody is a Sahaja Yogini and she has done something very wrong, then you should not become emotionally attached, “Oh, Mother. What is it? We should forgive her.” No. You tell her that, “You must improve your vibrations and must come to balance. And once you are in balance, then I will consider your case. Then I will say it is so or not.” But if he has no balance, he goes into rationality, he goes into emotional things. And this emotional business can take you to any nonsensical thing, as it is a psychological case. And one can go into very, very wrong things that they are doing out of this emotional thing. See, like even singing of songs that are neurotic, or anything, you see. All this emotional thing can take you anywhere. So to be emotional is not needed and you must love. And Left one is what you can call another extreme. One side is emotional, another is rational. In rationality, you can start justifying anything, like Hitler did. He said, “No this was right. What I was doing was right!” He took something into his head and “Now, this is right!” This is rationality. So both things are to be properly balanced and you should see that, whatever you are doing, are giving you a proper result. So thank you very much again and again. May God bless you.

8/29/1999

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Public Program at the "Caffè della Versiliana". Versilia (Italy), 29 August 1999. Romano Battaglia: ….Arriva a fine millennio. È l’ultima Versiliana di questo millennio. Prego. (...it arrives to the end of millenium. It's the last Versiliana of this millenium. Please..) Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of truth. If you are really seeking the truth, this is the best time when, at the end of this millennium, you can really understand what is the truth is. We have one problem: as we are born, we have the inheritance from the animal kingdom we should say, because we evolved out of animals. So, because of that, we still have many qualities that are coming from our inheritance. Firstly, the desire to get over somebody, to sort of grab things, or aggressiveness, all comes from there. There are many things we have inherited from them. But now we have another problem: because we think, and by thinking we justify everything wrong we do. And because of this, we continue with all kinds of aggressiveness and all kinds of tortures of others. But this is not what we have to achieve being human beings. Now the truth is that we all can evolve out of this. For that we have to become the Spirit. So we are not this body, this mind, these emotions, this intellect, but we are pure Spirits. We must have faith in that. Actually, to overcome these tendencies of human beings, they started religions. But religions also are now money-oriented or they are power-oriented, they are not Spirit-oriented. So the problem remains as it is. Now, what are we to do, is to just to understand that we are the pure Spirit. And this is a special time, very special time, I call it a blossom time, when there are so many who are really, really seeking the truth. They can’t go on with whatever they have. They want to change themselves, transform themselves. They want to change the whole world, the whole transformation – where there will be nothing but peace and Divine Love. So human beings are at an intermediary stage. But it’s not difficult, because your Creator has created within you the power to become the Spirit. For which you don’t have to go into any ritualism, or any kind of punishment, nothing of the kind. As you are, whatever you are, only you have to desire to be the Spirit and you become. Because in you resides the power which will make you that. It is your own power. Which is the pure power. Other powers are not pure. Other desires also not pure. Now today you want to have something, you get it, then you want to have something else – that means your desires were not pure. Every time, desires you go on running from one to another. You work very hard to achieve some desire, and then again you have nothing to do with it. This is we have to understand why it is happening, because this is not the pure desire. Now there is a power within us – believe Me – which can be easily awakened. Especially when you are sitting under the sky, under these beautiful trees and on the Mother Earth. The whole nature helps us. Just look at them how like a witness they are standing, nothing moving. They want to see these miracles in you. And this is going to happen. I don’t want to tell you that you feel guilty or you feel bad about yourself, never. After all, if you have done anything wrong, you are a human being. But God has forgiven you. Otherwise you’d not have been here. So please forgive yourself. Do not have any guilt. Is a fashion nowadays, to have a guilt. But actually, when you feel guilty, you catch on this centre here with which you can get a very serious disease of angina, also spondylitis. Especially Italians are very emotional people, their hearts are open, but they feel guilty for nothing at all. I mean, if you have such a large heart, you should be very satisfied with yourself. And not to feel guilty. This is a very important thing. The second point is that we must know how to forgive others, and God has forgiven you. Now, if you don’t forgive, what do you do? You do nothing. On the contrary, if you don’t forgive, you are just playing with your mind and torturing yourself. So, it is best is that we should forgive ourselves, and we must have respect for ourselves. We have to love ourselves. That doesn’t mean self-indulgence by any chance. On the contrary, you must know that you are made a human being for a special purpose. Not to be wasted. This human life is not to be wasted. You have to care for others and you have to care for yourself also. That is a very important point. That first of all we have to become the Spirit, by which we will realise our own value. By becoming the Spirit, what happens is that you get connected to the all-pervading Divine Power. They have talked about it, they’ve talked in all the religions about this Divine Power. But nobody has been able to really explain how to reach there. If it is possible to achieve that. Einstein has talked about it. He says that there’s a torsion area beyond our mind. And the ideas come from the torsion area. And when it comes from torsion area, the scientists can work it out, they can find out. They should not live only on the rational plane. They can verify it. They should research it. With an open mind. He himself said that the theory of relativity dawned upon him from the torsion area. Also he said most of the scientists get their ideas from the torsion area. So we have to enter into that torsion area. For example, when I came here, it was very hot. And then it rained very heavily. Then they were asking Me in the evening, will we have the programme inside or outside. I said: “Outside”. So they were thinking it might rain. I said: “It will not, it will not rain at all, take it from Me. But it will be very pleasant.” That’s what it is! Same thing will happen to you. When your powers will come, you will know everything through the torsion area. For which you don’t have to pay. You don’t have to pray also. Don’t have to do anything. Because it is within you. It is your own power. Just like this candle here is burned by another candle. In this way, if you are enlightened, if you have the light, you can enlighten thousands of them. That is how Sahaja Yoga has spread. But after enlightenment you have to see that your light is burning alright. Little bit you have to look after it. It’s a long story about the centres that we have, but I need not tell you all that, you will come to know in no time. But you must think about yourself very seriously. Your life is not for frivolous things. You must pay due attention to yourself and respect yourself. If you don’t want wars, if you don’t want violence, if you want your children to be beautifully peaceful ones, then try that you, after getting realisation here, you come to our follow-up programmes and become permanently an enlightened personality. Then you become peaceful personalities. You emit peace. Whenever you will go, there will be peace. And you are under the protection of the Divine. Now in Turkey we have about 2,000 sahaja yogis. Not one person is hurt and nobody’s house were (crumbled?) down. Actually they were Muslims, some of them fundamentalist Muslims. But when I told them about the truth about Koran, they just became sahaja yogis. They had never read also Koran – just because some people said “you should become fundamentalist” they had become fundamentalists. But this kind of blind faith is of no use. You have to have the experience. Is very important. Don’t believe Me also, unless and until you have the experience. We believe into anything, but first of all you must see what others have got. Have they got joy? Have they got peace? Are they loving people? Can they transform others? Without that, you should not jump into anything. It is illusion. It’s an ocean of illusion. And we jump into that without thinking about it. So for this special time I want to warn you all to be careful. I have to tell you this is the Last Judgement. Either you take to truth or to untruth. This is how you are going to be judged. As a Mother, I feel very much heartened to see people who come to seek the truth. And we don’t want to be ruined, and we don’t want other people to be ruined by our false faiths. You’ll be amazed how it has changed people. In Italy itself I don’t know, we have how many? We have so many people in Italy, they all have become so nice – they don’t drink, they don’t smoke, they don’t take drugs, nothing, they’ve given up all those habits automatically. They have become very loving, beautiful people who think for the whole world. All of you can become that. And we have to become, the time has come. So the message is today, is that we should be very much anxious to get our self-realisation and to establish it. Then all problems of country, nationality, this thing, everything get solved. Because we all become collective. We are so collective that a person, supposing something happens to him here, from all over the world people will try to help him. I don’t have to tell them, automatically they do it. And it’s such a noble work, that once you get your self-realisation, you just dedicate to it. And then you really, really enjoy the collective joy. So may God bless you all. I hope you will understand what I’ve said and we’ll do just now the self-realisation process. You don’t have to pay anything, you don’t have to do anything, is just to enjoy your Self which is within you, and to enjoy the people of the whole world. Thank you very much. (Applause) Romano Battaglia: Vorrei ricordare che ci sono dei depliant con gli indirizzi per il Sahaja Yoga, anche qui a Forte dei Marmi, e i numeri telefonici per chi volesse seguire. Poi ci sono anche dei volumi nella nostra libreria dove si può sapere qualcosa di più. Volevo fare una domanda importante. Gli scienziati russi, che cosa hanno pensato? (I would like to remember that there are some leaflets with addresses for Sahaja Yoga, even here in Forte dei Marmi, and the telephone numbers for those who want to attend. Then there are also some books in our book shop where you can learn a bit more. I wanted to make an important question. About Russian scientists, what did they think?) Shri Mataji: Ah. The Russian scientists, you see, they are very good scientists, and because they were so oppressed by communism, that they went into one place and they established themselves, you see? And the Russians were so oppressed that they went inside themselves much more, they’re very deep, deep people. And very sensitive. You know, their leadership has been always a problem. But the people are so beautiful and so well-educated. Now these scientists who went there, and stayed there, they are the ones who found out, were thinking about spiritual life, about the torsion area. And these two of them, very, very prominent physicists – they were physicists – very prominent people, came to My programme. And they were looking out for this torsion area. And they saw in My photograph lots of light coming and spreading all over from My head. They also felt the cool breeze coming our of their heads. And they were amazed, and they openly declared that I’m the source of cosmic energy. There are many types of energies, one of them is cosmic, which looks after the five elements, nature. Is the cosmic energy. But there’s another energy which is of love, of God’s love. And that energy is what we call it as Ruh in Urdu, or in Persian, Ruh. And also in Sanskrit language it is Paramchaitanya, and in English language, or in the Bible, it is the all-pervading Power of Divine love. So what happens actually is this: that if the scientists see something, and feel something, then they go beyond the rational area. In America also it has worked out in such a way that their medical institution of that America has accepted Sahaja Yoga for curing people. Thus, you see, they want to accept the truth, they don’t want to deny it, because they are very clean people. Thus, these Russians are writing a book in Russian language, then it has to be translated also in your language. Romano Battaglia: Non so se la Grande Madre potrà dare la realizzazione qui, davanti questo pubblico…. (I do not know if the Great Mother can give realization here, in presence of this audience...) Shri Mataji: I will. I will now, if you want. Those who do not want, should leave the place, because it is only your wanting, your desire, I cannot force on you. That we can call it the actualisation of baptism. Actualisation. Of the baptism. But it is not artificial, it is real, because it comes through our living force of evolution. All right. So, those who are prepared to have it can have it, but I have to make a very humble request, that you have to take out your shoes – not socks, but shoes. Because this Mother Earth, you know, is so powerful, and She takes away all our problems. So you must promise that you will continue with it and will become complete enlightened people. It is very simple. Nothing to be afraid of. Now please put both your hands towards Me like this. Alright. I have already told you that you have to forgive yourself, not to feel guilty. And secondly you have to forgive everyone. That’s all. It’s not difficult or anything, just you have to say “Mother we forgive everyone”. Alright. Now put both the hands towards Me just like this. Now put the right hand towards Me like this, and with the left hand try to see on top of your head if there’s any cool breeze coming. Now bend your heads. Could be hot breeze also. That is because you have not forgiven yourself nor you have forgiven others. You just bend your head and see. Now put left hand towards me and put the right hand on top of your head. Again bend your heads. Right hand towards Me, right hand towards Me. Ah. (Aside: “Very well”). Now. (Aside: “Alright, got it now”). You can put up both your hands. And you ask a question, anyone of these three questions, you ask one question in your heart. You ask – you can call Me Shri Mataji or you can call Me Mother – “Mother, is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost?” Or else, second question is: “Mother, is this the all-pervading Power of Divine love?”. Only one question you have to ask three times. Then you have to ask: “Mother, is this the Paramchaitanya?”. Is the Sanskrit word. You can ask anyone of these questions three times, from your heart. Now. Please put down your hands. Please put down your hands. Now, again put your hands towards Me. And now just don’t think, you can do it; don’t think, you can do it. Just don’t see the silence, the nature is silent and you are also silent within. This is how you go beyond your mind. Now. All those who have felt cool breeze or hot breeze on their fingertips or on their palms or out of the fontanel bone area, please raise both your hands. All of you have felt it! Congratulations. May God bless you. (I told you, I tell every, they are very much vibrant people). May God bless you. Now you have to promise that you will develop yourselves into great yogis, into great enlightened people. And to thank Romano Battaglia for this chance to meet all of you. It is very kind of you. Romano Battaglia: È il saluto dell’ultimo giorno del Caffè della Versiliana. (This is the goodbye of the last day of the "Caffè della Versiliana".) Shri Mataji: Ah. May God bless you. May God bless you, Romano, specially. Now this song you can clap. If this song if you can clap, this will help you. Now this is a Marathi song, which was sung in the 1900 and, I think 16 or so. It was written by a very, very famous poet. And is being sung all over in the villages of Maharashtra. It says that “Oh God, I am prepared to enter into Your Kingdom. So it works out in such a beautiful manner that You make my Spirit shine. Yoga is the union with the Divine. It is not acrobatic thing. Is a real connection. (The bhajan group sings Jogawa. Then Shri Mataji meets the public and works on the people)

Public Program at the "Caffè della Versiliana". Versilia (Italy), 29 August 1999. Romano Battaglia: ….Arriva a fine millennio. È l’ultima Versiliana di questo millennio. Prego. (...it arrives to the end of millenium. It's the last Versiliana of this millenium. Please..) Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of truth. If you are really seeking the truth, this is the best time when, at the end of this millennium, you can really understand what is the truth is. We have one problem: as we are born, we have the inheritance from the animal kingdom we should say, because we evolved out of animals. So, because of that, we still have many qualities that are coming from our inheritance. Firstly, the desire to get over somebody, to sort of grab things, or aggressiveness, all comes from there. There are many things we have inherited from them. But now we have another problem: because we think, and by thinking we justify everything wrong we do. And because of this, we continue with all kinds of aggressiveness and all kinds of tortures of others. But this is not what we have to achieve being human beings. Now the truth is that we all can evolve out of this. For that we have to become the Spirit. So we are not this body, this mind, these emotions, this intellect, but we are pure Spirits. We must have faith in that. Actually, to overcome these tendencies of human beings, they started religions. But religions also are now money-oriented or they are power-oriented, they are not Spirit-oriented. So the problem remains as it is. Now, what are we to do, is to just to understand that we are the pure Spirit. And this is a special time, very special time, I call it a blossom time, when there are so many who are really, really seeking the truth. They can’t go on with whatever they have. They want to change themselves, transform themselves. They want to change the whole world, the whole transformation – where there will be nothing but peace and Divine Love. So human beings are at an intermediary stage. But it’s not difficult, because your Creator has created within you the power to become the Spirit. For which you don’t have to go into any ritualism, or any kind of punishment, nothing of the kind. As you are, whatever you are, only you have to desire to be the Spirit and you become. Because in you resides the power which will make you that. It is your own power. Which is the pure power. Other powers are not pure. Other desires also not pure. Now today you want to have something, you get it, then you want to have something else – that means your desires were not pure. Every time, desires you go on running from one to another. You work very hard to achieve some desire, and then again you have nothing to do with it. This is we have to understand why it is happening, because this is not the pure desire. Now there is a power within us – believe Me – which can be easily awakened. Especially when you are sitting under the sky, under these beautiful trees and on the Mother Earth. The whole nature helps us. Just look at them how like a witness they are standing, nothing moving. They want to see these miracles in you. And this is going to happen. I don’t want to tell you that you feel guilty or you feel bad about yourself, never. After all, if you have done anything wrong, you are a human being. But God has forgiven you. Otherwise you’d not have been here. So please forgive yourself. Do not have any guilt. Is a fashion nowadays, to have a guilt. But actually, when you feel guilty, you catch on this centre here with which you can get a very serious disease of angina, also spondylitis. Especially Italians are very emotional people, their hearts are open, but they feel guilty for nothing at all. I mean, if you have such a large heart, you should be very satisfied with yourself. And not to feel guilty. This is a very important thing. The second point is that we must know how to forgive others, and God has forgiven you. Now, if you don’t forgive, what do you do? You do nothing. On the contrary, if you don’t forgive, you are just playing with your mind and torturing yourself. So, it is best is that we should forgive ourselves, and we must have respect for ourselves. We have to love ourselves. That doesn’t mean self-indulgence by any chance. On the contrary, you must know that you are made a human being for a special purpose. Not to be wasted. This human life is not to be wasted. You have to care for others and you have to care for yourself also. That is a very important point. That first of all we have to become the Spirit, by which we will realise our own value. By becoming the Spirit, what happens is that you get connected to the all-pervading Divine Power. They have talked about it, they’ve talked in all the religions about this Divine Power. But nobody has been able to really explain how to reach there. If it is possible to achieve that. Einstein has talked about it. He says that there’s a torsion area beyond our mind. And the ideas come from the torsion area. And when it comes from torsion area, the scientists can work it out, they can find out. They should not live only on the rational plane. They can verify it. They should research it. With an open mind. He himself said that the theory of relativity dawned upon him from the torsion area. Also he said most of the scientists get their ideas from the torsion area. So we have to enter into that torsion area. For example, when I came here, it was very hot. And then it rained very heavily. Then they were asking Me in the evening, will we have the programme inside or outside. I said: “Outside”. So they were thinking it might rain. I said: “It will not, it will not rain at all, take it from Me. But it will be very pleasant.” That’s what it is! Same thing will happen to you. When your powers will come, you will know everything through the torsion area. For which you don’t have to pay. You don’t have to pray also. Don’t have to do anything. Because it is within you. It is your own power. Just like this candle here is burned by another candle. In this way, if you are enlightened, if you have the light, you can enlighten thousands of them. That is how Sahaja Yoga has spread. But after enlightenment you have to see that your light is burning alright. Little bit you have to look after it. It’s a long story about the centres that we have, but I need not tell you all that, you will come to know in no time. But you must think about yourself very seriously. Your life is not for frivolous things. You must pay due attention to yourself and respect yourself. If you don’t want wars, if you don’t want violence, if you want your children to be beautifully peaceful ones, then try that you, after getting realisation here, you come to our follow-up programmes and become permanently an enlightened personality. Then you become peaceful personalities. You emit peace. Whenever you will go, there will be peace. And you are under the protection of the Divine. Now in Turkey we have about 2,000 sahaja yogis. Not one person is hurt and nobody’s house were (crumbled?) down. Actually they were Muslims, some of them fundamentalist Muslims. But when I told them about the truth about Koran, they just became sahaja yogis. They had never read also Koran – just because some people said “you should become fundamentalist” they had become fundamentalists. But this kind of blind faith is of no use. You have to have the experience. Is very important. Don’t believe Me also, unless and until you have the experience. We believe into anything, but first of all you must see what others have got. Have they got joy? Have they got peace? Are they loving people? Can they transform others? Without that, you should not jump into anything. It is illusion. It’s an ocean of illusion. And we jump into that without thinking about it. So for this special time I want to warn you all to be careful. I have to tell you this is the Last Judgement. Either you take to truth or to untruth. This is how you are going to be judged. As a Mother, I feel very much heartened to see people who come to seek the truth. And we don’t want to be ruined, and we don’t want other people to be ruined by our false faiths. You’ll be amazed how it has changed people. In Italy itself I don’t know, we have how many? We have so many people in Italy, they all have become so nice – they don’t drink, they don’t smoke, they don’t take drugs, nothing, they’ve given up all those habits automatically. They have become very loving, beautiful people who think for the whole world. All of you can become that. And we have to become, the time has come. So the message is today, is that we should be very much anxious to get our self-realisation and to establish it. Then all problems of country, nationality, this thing, everything get solved. Because we all become collective. We are so collective that a person, supposing something happens to him here, from all over the world people will try to help him. I don’t have to tell them, automatically they do it. And it’s such a noble work, that once you get your self-realisation, you just dedicate to it. And then you really, really enjoy the collective joy. So may God bless you all. I hope you will understand what I’ve said and we’ll do just now the self-realisation process. You don’t have to pay anything, you don’t have to do anything, is just to enjoy your Self which is within you, and to enjoy the people of the whole world. Thank you very much. (Applause) Romano Battaglia: Vorrei ricordare che ci sono dei depliant con gli indirizzi per il Sahaja Yoga, anche qui a Forte dei Marmi, e i numeri telefonici per chi volesse seguire. Poi ci sono anche dei volumi nella nostra libreria dove si può sapere qualcosa di più. Volevo fare una domanda importante. Gli scienziati russi, che cosa hanno pensato? (I would like to remember that there are some leaflets with addresses for Sahaja Yoga, even here in Forte dei Marmi, and the telephone numbers for those who want to attend. Then there are also some books in our book shop where you can learn a bit more. I wanted to make an important question. About Russian scientists, what did they think?) Shri Mataji: Ah. The Russian scientists, you see, they are very good scientists, and because they were so oppressed by communism, that they went into one place and they established themselves, you see? And the Russians were so oppressed that they went inside themselves much more, they’re very deep, deep people. And very sensitive. You know, their leadership has been always a problem. But the people are so beautiful and so well-educated. Now these scientists who went there, and stayed there, they are the ones who found out, were thinking about spiritual life, about the torsion area. And these two of them, very, very prominent physicists – they were physicists – very prominent people, came to My programme. And they were looking out for this torsion area. And they saw in My photograph lots of light coming and spreading all over from My head. They also felt the cool breeze coming our of their heads. And they were amazed, and they openly declared that I’m the source of cosmic energy. There are many types of energies, one of them is cosmic, which looks after the five elements, nature. Is the cosmic energy. But there’s another energy which is of love, of God’s love. And that energy is what we call it as Ruh in Urdu, or in Persian, Ruh. And also in Sanskrit language it is Paramchaitanya, and in English language, or in the Bible, it is the all-pervading Power of Divine love. So what happens actually is this: that if the scientists see something, and feel something, then they go beyond the rational area. In America also it has worked out in such a way that their medical institution of that America has accepted Sahaja Yoga for curing people. Thus, you see, they want to accept the truth, they don’t want to deny it, because they are very clean people. Thus, these Russians are writing a book in Russian language, then it has to be translated also in your language. Romano Battaglia: Non so se la Grande Madre potrà dare la realizzazione qui, davanti questo pubblico…. (I do not know if the Great Mother can give realization here, in presence of this audience...) Shri Mataji: I will. I will now, if you want. Those who do not want, should leave the place, because it is only your wanting, your desire, I cannot force on you. That we can call it the actualisation of baptism. Actualisation. Of the baptism. But it is not artificial, it is real, because it comes through our living force of evolution. All right. So, those who are prepared to have it can have it, but I have to make a very humble request, that you have to take out your shoes – not socks, but shoes. Because this Mother Earth, you know, is so powerful, and She takes away all our problems. So you must promise that you will continue with it and will become complete enlightened people. It is very simple. Nothing to be afraid of. Now please put both your hands towards Me like this. Alright. I have already told you that you have to forgive yourself, not to feel guilty. And secondly you have to forgive everyone. That’s all. It’s not difficult or anything, just you have to say “Mother we forgive everyone”. Alright. Now put both the hands towards Me just like this. Now put the right hand towards Me like this, and with the left hand try to see on top of your head if there’s any cool breeze coming. Now bend your heads. Could be hot breeze also. That is because you have not forgiven yourself nor you have forgiven others. You just bend your head and see. Now put left hand towards me and put the right hand on top of your head. Again bend your heads. Right hand towards Me, right hand towards Me. Ah. (Aside: “Very well”). Now. (Aside: “Alright, got it now”). You can put up both your hands. And you ask a question, anyone of these three questions, you ask one question in your heart. You ask – you can call Me Shri Mataji or you can call Me Mother – “Mother, is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost?” Or else, second question is: “Mother, is this the all-pervading Power of Divine love?”. Only one question you have to ask three times. Then you have to ask: “Mother, is this the Paramchaitanya?”. Is the Sanskrit word. You can ask anyone of these questions three times, from your heart. Now. Please put down your hands. Please put down your hands. Now, again put your hands towards Me. And now just don’t think, you can do it; don’t think, you can do it. Just don’t see the silence, the nature is silent and you are also silent within. This is how you go beyond your mind. Now. All those who have felt cool breeze or hot breeze on their fingertips or on their palms or out of the fontanel bone area, please raise both your hands. All of you have felt it! Congratulations. May God bless you. (I told you, I tell every, they are very much vibrant people). May God bless you. Now you have to promise that you will develop yourselves into great yogis, into great enlightened people. And to thank Romano Battaglia for this chance to meet all of you. It is very kind of you. Romano Battaglia: È il saluto dell’ultimo giorno del Caffè della Versiliana. (This is the goodbye of the last day of the "Caffè della Versiliana".) Shri Mataji: Ah. May God bless you. May God bless you, Romano, specially. Now this song you can clap. If this song if you can clap, this will help you. Now this is a Marathi song, which was sung in the 1900 and, I think 16 or so. It was written by a very, very famous poet. And is being sung all over in the villages of Maharashtra. It says that “Oh God, I am prepared to enter into Your Kingdom. So it works out in such a beautiful manner that You make my Spirit shine. Yoga is the union with the Divine. It is not acrobatic thing. Is a real connection. (The bhajan group sings Jogawa. Then Shri Mataji meets the public and works on the people)

9/5/1999

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Shri Virata Puja: First of all, you have to rise above your ego

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Shri Virata Puja. Cabella (Italy), 5 September 1999. Tonight, we are going to worship Shri Krishna as Virata. First, it is important to understand the incarnation of Shri Krishna. The word ‘Krishna’ comes from the word ‘Krishi’ – ‘Krishi’ means ‘agriculture’. He sowed the seeds of spirituality. And for that, first of all He had to think: “Where are we, as far as spirituality is concerned? How is the land?” So, what had happened at the time of Shri Rama is that he had created lots of maryadas. And by these maryadas people started mentally thinking about it: “I am not supposed to do that, I am not supposed to do this” – it was just a mental binding; it was not spontaneous, it was not ‘sahaj’. As a result, people became extremely serious. They wouldn’t talk much, they wouldn’t laugh, and they wouldn’t enjoy anything. So, Shri Krishna decided that first of all he must remove them from this conditioning. And this conditioning had to be removed in such a manner that they enjoy themselves. Then he found out that there were three suggestions as far as achieving the goal was concerned. So, first one, as he says, is to become a Realised Soul – Stita Pragnya – to go beyond all temptations, to go beyond all ego, to go beyond all kinds of conditioning, and to become a Stita Pragnya. Stita Pragnya is where he doesn’t feel like ordinary people, attracted towards things, but he is absolutely detached. And this detached person doesn’t take to any grievances, jealousies, and all these things. That he told. But how to achieve it he never told. And the second thing he described it that you must work, you have to work. After all, you have got all the human tendencies that is (are) to work. But the fruit of the work you must leave at the Lotus Feet of God – or you can call it the Divine Power. This was another trick of his, because he realised how human beings were twisted and how they had an ego if you told them something, how they would misinterpret it. So, he took the other way round – tell them something absurd. Now whatever work you, do your ego is intact and with that ego you can never give it up at the Lotus Feet of the Divine – it was then impossible. So, he made an impossible situation that after some time people would realise that this cannot be done and they would give up this idea of leaving everything at the Lotus Feet of the Divine. This was the one that he prepared the land. Second thing is that ‘Pushpam falam toya’ ‘Flowers, fruit and water – whatever you offer me, I will take it’. But when you do that, when you do that you must have Ananya bhakti. Ananya means completely single-minded bhakti, when there is not ‘the other’. This is only possible after Realisation. Only after Realisation, you can put the fruits of your work at the Lotus Feet of the Divine, and only after Self-realisation you can have Ananya Bhakti, means the Devotion, which is singular. These absurd conditions he put for human beings, because they were so much complicated. So many people tell me, “Mother we are doing Ananya bhakti” “How?” “Because we are singing on the street, we are taking the name of God all the time, we are going to Pandaripur in rags and for one month we walk, singing, singing, singing”. These kind of absurd ideas about bhakti he never gave. But it is the way he wanted to neutralise the absurdities of human beings that they thought that this was the bhakti – which it is not. Ananya Bhakti is only possible when you are a Realised Soul, when you are connected with the Divine. When there is not the other. This is how he tried to make a three-way attack on human beings, on their stupidity. Because he thought if I tell them directly “Do like this, do like that,” then they will say “Of course we did it and still we never achieved it.” In India there is a big ‘cult’, we can call it; people who go to Pandhapur. For one month they walk, in rags, singing the songs, and on the way, they go on eating food at different places. According to them this is Ananya Bhakti. And they achieve nothing. They become very sick and very tired and have a very bad old age. But who can tell them? They are all lost in it. So, this is a way one could tackle human beings to show their stupidity. And so many people come and ask me, as I told you, that ‘How is it that we do so much bhakti of Shri Krishna and we have achieved nothing?’ So, he is the one who prepared the land for sowing. We can say he was the one who was like a very great agriculturist. So, his name was Krishi-Krisht. There are so many things I have told you about him, how his name came as Krishna, then how he was called as Radhawal, who was Radha, who was Krishna and all those things. But when he talked of these things, also he told that you should become Stita Pragnya. That is what they call Gyana Yoga. Gyana means knowledge. So, you should get absolute knowledge. That he didn’t say how. That you know what is absolute knowledge, which you can feel on your fingertips in Sahaja Yoga. Another thing is, his specialty was to create discretion in people. He thought by doing all these things in a stupid manner they might develop discretion to know that this is not the way you can achieve anything. You have to get your Self-realisation. Discretion was very important. At this juncture when we are facing a sort of challenge of this new millennium – that the whole world is going to be destroyed and all those things that people are talking – it is really very important to know through discretion what is good and what is bad. One may talk of something as very good, something as very bad. But the Divine Discretion is very, very different. Very different, and which acts by itself. Once you are in the realm of Divine Discretion, you cannot commit mistakes. Even if you want to do it. I give you my example. We went to buy a house, and the fellow was like a beggar, he came and said “We have nothing, we have no food, they have taken away all our things, and we are just absolutely starving”. When he said that ‘we are starving, we have nothing’. So, I felt pity for him. So, I said, “Alright, increase the price”. First, we increased the price and still he was saying, “No, no, give us more”. Still we increased the price; I told my husband “You increase the price”. Though reluctantly, he increased the price. The third time again we increased the price, and then he said, “No, we’ll have something more than that, a little more”. Immediately this discretion worked and I said, “These are hypocrites”. I just left them and sat in the car. At the right moment. That was not such a good proposition or anything, but they could see that I am buying it out of my pity, of my compassion, but above the compassion was this discretion that said, “Nothing doing, you’d better get out of it!” So, this Divine Discretion is a very, very important thing, which we should see how it works and should be satisfied with that. Not to feel bad that you’ve missed a chance or anything, but you must feel very happy that this thing has happened and that your Divine Discretion has taken on. So, sometimes it appears that in that Divine Discretion you may do something wrong, or you have done something wrong. But if it is Divine, ultimately it will turn out to be very good. I will give you a very basic example, but that is also very true when you practice Sahaja Yoga: the discretion of Divine Discretion is extremely important to play a very great part in our lives, because this Divine Discretion gives us the real joy of our being, of our self, of Sahaja Yoga. So, the third point was for him to make people joyous and happy. But with all these maryadas of Shri Rama, he didn’t know how to do it. So, to give people joy he said “Alright, let us dance, let us sing, let us play Holi [Indian Festival of dance], all sorts of things” and with that he really originated many things that were really not serious, may look frivolous, but in that there was joy expressed. All that he did, to give them a full idea as for a Sahaja Yogi, or we can say for a Self-Realised soul, what would be the attitude towards everything. But it is not that you have to do it, but it just works out, it is like that. That in the state of Sahaj you enjoy everything. Enjoyment. And that is what his idea was, to create a sense of joy among people. Many people, there are lots of critics, have criticised this part of his life, according to them religion means you should become old just at the age of twenty years – you should become an old man of 80 years, something like that. Funny ideas of religious achievement. But he talked of joy, and he never talked of renunciation. He never talked that you give up your family, you give up your children, you give up everything – never, never. He said, “You must enjoy – enjoy with detachment”. But for people it is very difficult to understand how can it be that it is without detachment (attachment?): with attachment you can never enjoy. If you are attached to something, you cannot enjoy anything in a full way. Like supposing you are attached to your child. Very simple thing, you are attached to your child. If you are attached to your child then you will be bothered about things that should not be there, which will not give joy to the child either. You will not allow your child, say, to go out or to talk to people, whatever it is, all kinds of restrictions you are putting. But if you have really the Divine Discretion then you will know with whom he should talk, where he should go, what he should enjoy, and you will see that he enjoys that. Any attachment with anything doesn’t give you the full view of that person, or of that thing. If you are detached then you can see things from, let’s say, above, above the thing. If you are detached, you become thoughtlessly aware also. As I said now see the carpets are there, they are very, very beautiful carpets. Now if they are mine, I will be worried about them, I will be all the time worried because I am attached, that these carpets should not be spoiled, something may go wrong. But if I am not attached, I look at those carpets, and what do I see? The joy! The joy that was put in by the artist who made them. And that joy really tries to reflect in me also. That joy comes in me. So, to have an attachment to anything, there will be happiness but not joy. Because joy is single and happiness is double – happiness and unhappiness. So, even if I try to enjoy something I will think “Oh still there is this point [possible problem] is there”. But joy is all pervading. It has no boundaries, and you just get dissolved in the ocean of joy. That was what was Shri Krishna’s idea was, that to cut out these maryadas. Nowadays we see the maryadas of so many things are really useless.For example, you have discovered the maryadas of religion; see when they live in maryadas, then what happens they sort of coagulate, or they have all kinds of germination inside like the ponds, absolutely bound and it is not flowing like the river. So, like that you see it becomes a kind of a closed mind with these maryadas. And when you have these maryadas, you start thinking whether I should do it or not, whether I will enjoy it or not. But with these maryadas only you kill the joy. Now we have other maryadas, say as I told you about the religion. Many people who would love to come to Sahaja Yoga, but because they have maryadas of silly things of their religion, they cannot come. They think this is our religion. Why, they don’t understand. Falsehood becomes the maryadas and they don’t understand that what is the maryada is actually made by the religion also. You see now in Islam what is happening. It is with maryadas they want to have another country, this thing, that thing. In other Christian religion same thing happened. Also, in Hindu religion all these maryadas are really stagnating them completely and they are getting crushed into it. There is no discretion, because they have said it – they do it. They are so much blindfolded bout it that they cannot see what is right and what is wrong. But after Sahaja Yoga you can laugh at them and you can see them Then after we have social maryadas. Social maryadas are there, which are sometimes, when abandonment can become very horrid also. Like in the west now, the women think that the less dress they wear, the more beautiful they are. This is a new thing they have started. Now this is absurd, you should see the discretion behind it is very simple, that we have been animals and now we don’t want to have any clothes because we were animals. It is an animal heritage, which is why so many women do not want to wear full dresses. It is just animal behaviour. So, the maryada of good maryadas also – people can give up saying “We don’t want any maryadas, we are free, we can do whatever we like”. But in their freedom what do you achieve? Your animal instinct works in their freedom and you think you are a very free personality. Then we have maryadas of our country. God has not made different, different countries at all. Neither is it true that there are different countries, but variety is there. Variety of people, variety of places is there. These varieties must be accepted as something very artistic and one should not get ruined and confused with those ideas that we are Americans, we are Indians, we are this and we are that. You are not. Now you can know after Sahaja Yoga that you are all Sahaja Yogis, and you don’t belong to any country as such. The country may belong to you but you don’t belong to the country. I mean the work today is to understand that if you really want to care for all these countries and all that, then you must do some work, work of Sahaja Yoga, that people get rid of these silly ideas of fighting for territory, for this for that, all over the world it is going on. “We want this land. We want that land.” Land belongs to God, not to human beings, and what is the use of fighting for land, I don’t understand. But this confusion is there and illusion is there and people work out on this confusion and illusion to such an extent that they ruin their lives, the lives of their children, so many people are lost, so many people are in a lunatic asylum I should say, because they end up in some sort of a refugee camp. They are having a good house, nicely living there, and then you become a refugee. Why? Because they believe that they can have their own land, they can have their own place, and they should live there. This idea I think comes from some stupid leaders who want to have for themselves these lands. And that’s how people fight for land. There’s no need to fight for land, or fight for your country, or fight for this, or fight for that. But the situation is such that unless and until you fight you cannot get to the Truth. And that’s why, if you remember, that Shri Krishna told Arjuna that “You fight, you have to fight, that’s your work. You have to fight these people because they are the people who do not live with dharma. They are adharmees. So, you have to fight”. And that is how this fighting was so much justified because after fighting the war, they got back what they deserved. They were deceived and this is what Shri Krishna said, that you should not by any chance become a slave of these people, but you fight with them. So, fighting also is justified in the Divine Discretion. It is again the Divine Discretion, where you have to fight because you don’t want to be a slave. If you are a slave you are no good. So, for that you can fight. But when people start fighting for separation, for territory, it is not correct. On the contrary, one should never think of separating from the main lands. It creates lots of problems. But now we believe in the global religion, we believe in the global territory. We don’t have to ask for anything. Anywhere you go you are the citizen of that place. Anybody who wants to go to Russia ever, the whole of the Russians will be with you; you go to America, they will be with you. That’s how, because all these are ideas of human beings, and if the human beings get transformed, there will be no problem of any war, or of any territory to be achieved. This was the Divine Discretion of Shri Krishna, which is instilled within us, as you know that this is a part and parcel of the Vishuddhi Chakra, where Shri Krishna resides. But when he rises to your Sahasrara, when he rises to that level, then he becomes Virata. So Virata’s chakra is placed in the head here above the Agnya. And this Virata is the form of Shri Krishna who has risen above the Agnya. When you are risen above the Agnya, you become a part and parcel of Virata’s land, we can say. Because unless and until you are above your ego, you are still involved with yourself, and with wrong ideas of maryadas. But when you rise above that and you become the Virata, the Great, then you are in the land of Virata, and Virata’s powers are tremendous. As has been seen by Arjuna, the form of Virata. The power of Virata becomes so tremendous that it acts globally. It acts in such a manner that you sit here – and anywhere it can act. I have seen that now. Many a times people say, “Mother, it’s a miracle. My mother was sick and she was not here and I just prayed and she got alright.” This is all the power of Virata. The power of Virata is that it can penetrate into the subtle side of human beings in such a manner that we are connected with everything, we are not separate, and every drop is connected with the ocean. We are connected with the whole universe. And when you become citizens, I should say, of Virata, then all the things with which you are connected also get your vibrations, your ideas, your ambitions – everything passes through that. And it works, it works. You have seen how many miracles have taken place in your lives. It is the Virata Shakti that works. Now for that we have to know how to worship Virata. First of all, you have to rise above your ego. Very important. Otherwise how can you worship? There is your ego standing in-between, and how can you rise up to the point of Virata? You have to pass through that. Once you are above your ego, you enter into the Kingdom of Virata. There the king is the Virata and you are the subjects who are looked after completely by Virata Shakti, by the power of Virata. But at that stage you become really a universal personality, in a way. Because whatever are the problems universally, now not necessarily that they should be attached to you or connected to you. Supposing a person is of that level. Now there may be a war in some other country, it can stop. Somebody who is feeling oppressed can win over. Anywhere your compassion moves, it works out. Wherever your attention will go, it will work out. And sometimes you are surprised as to “How it works, Mother, how these things work out, how these coincidences have taken place?” Only thing is, you have crossed that state of your ego and have gone into the state of Virata. Which is a very important thing to do, is to enter into the area of Virata. Then you don’t think this is your country, this belongs to you, that belongs to you – this belonging business finishes off. Then you belong to Virata. And he uses you for his own purpose in the sense that when your whole thinking is different, becomes global thinking, then he acts. And then his powers are manifold. And Krishna’s power is that he uses a conch to call people. I have given conches to all the leaders, so we have to now announce and call people. But at the level of Virata, you don’t have to do all that. At the level of Virata people just see, they will know. Just they will watch you and they will know. Just they will think you are human beings, and you are so sweet, so good, just like gems shining all the time, so they will be impressed. This comes through the Virata’s blessings. When you become that, then you forget about other things like you have big positions or anything, or you come from a very rich family and all that. All these nonsensical things which are actually not true. And all these things on which you want to exist, are no more. People like to show off their wealth, some people like to be very sort of demonstrative of what they think they are. But in the case of a person who rises above his ego and is a part and parcel of that Virata Shakti, enters into the kingdom of Virata, he knows he is very small. He is very small compared to that, and he just dissolves into that Shakti. And this should happen to us, that we should humble down, we should humble down and know that our powers, whatever we have, if they give us ego, we should get rid of it. We should not have that ego. We should get rid of it and we should actually achieve that state where you can be called as citizens of the Virata’s Power. May God bless you all Now, when you are entering into the kingdom of Virata, you have to be like children. You are children there. As children you enter. As Christ has said: "When you enter into the Kingdom of God, you have to be like children." And that is what you have to be today, all of you, to be innocent like children. You have to be innocent like children. H.H. Shri Matji Nirmala Devi

Shri Virata Puja. Cabella (Italy), 5 September 1999. Tonight, we are going to worship Shri Krishna as Virata. First, it is important to understand the incarnation of Shri Krishna. The word ‘Krishna’ comes from the word ‘Krishi’ – ‘Krishi’ means ‘agriculture’. He sowed the seeds of spirituality. And for that, first of all He had to think: “Where are we, as far as spirituality is concerned? How is the land?” So, what had happened at the time of Shri Rama is that he had created lots of maryadas. And by these maryadas people started mentally thinking about it: “I am not supposed to do that, I am not supposed to do this” – it was just a mental binding; it was not spontaneous, it was not ‘sahaj’. As a result, people became extremely serious. They wouldn’t talk much, they wouldn’t laugh, and they wouldn’t enjoy anything. So, Shri Krishna decided that first of all he must remove them from this conditioning. And this conditioning had to be removed in such a manner that they enjoy themselves. Then he found out that there were three suggestions as far as achieving the goal was concerned. So, first one, as he says, is to become a Realised Soul – Stita Pragnya – to go beyond all temptations, to go beyond all ego, to go beyond all kinds of conditioning, and to become a Stita Pragnya. Stita Pragnya is where he doesn’t feel like ordinary people, attracted towards things, but he is absolutely detached. And this detached person doesn’t take to any grievances, jealousies, and all these things. That he told. But how to achieve it he never told. And the second thing he described it that you must work, you have to work. After all, you have got all the human tendencies that is (are) to work. But the fruit of the work you must leave at the Lotus Feet of God – or you can call it the Divine Power. This was another trick of his, because he realised how human beings were twisted and how they had an ego if you told them something, how they would misinterpret it. So, he took the other way round – tell them something absurd. Now whatever work you, do your ego is intact and with that ego you can never give it up at the Lotus Feet of the Divine – it was then impossible. So, he made an impossible situation that after some time people would realise that this cannot be done and they would give up this idea of leaving everything at the Lotus Feet of the Divine. This was the one that he prepared the land. Second thing is that ‘Pushpam falam toya’ ‘Flowers, fruit and water – whatever you offer me, I will take it’. But when you do that, when you do that you must have Ananya bhakti. Ananya means completely single-minded bhakti, when there is not ‘the other’. This is only possible after Realisation. Only after Realisation, you can put the fruits of your work at the Lotus Feet of the Divine, and only after Self-realisation you can have Ananya Bhakti, means the Devotion, which is singular. These absurd conditions he put for human beings, because they were so much complicated. So many people tell me, “Mother we are doing Ananya bhakti” “How?” “Because we are singing on the street, we are taking the name of God all the time, we are going to Pandaripur in rags and for one month we walk, singing, singing, singing”. These kind of absurd ideas about bhakti he never gave. But it is the way he wanted to neutralise the absurdities of human beings that they thought that this was the bhakti – which it is not. Ananya Bhakti is only possible when you are a Realised Soul, when you are connected with the Divine. When there is not the other. This is how he tried to make a three-way attack on human beings, on their stupidity. Because he thought if I tell them directly “Do like this, do like that,” then they will say “Of course we did it and still we never achieved it.” In India there is a big ‘cult’, we can call it; people who go to Pandhapur. For one month they walk, in rags, singing the songs, and on the way, they go on eating food at different places. According to them this is Ananya Bhakti. And they achieve nothing. They become very sick and very tired and have a very bad old age. But who can tell them? They are all lost in it. So, this is a way one could tackle human beings to show their stupidity. And so many people come and ask me, as I told you, that ‘How is it that we do so much bhakti of Shri Krishna and we have achieved nothing?’ So, he is the one who prepared the land for sowing. We can say he was the one who was like a very great agriculturist. So, his name was Krishi-Krisht. There are so many things I have told you about him, how his name came as Krishna, then how he was called as Radhawal, who was Radha, who was Krishna and all those things. But when he talked of these things, also he told that you should become Stita Pragnya. That is what they call Gyana Yoga. Gyana means knowledge. So, you should get absolute knowledge. That he didn’t say how. That you know what is absolute knowledge, which you can feel on your fingertips in Sahaja Yoga. Another thing is, his specialty was to create discretion in people. He thought by doing all these things in a stupid manner they might develop discretion to know that this is not the way you can achieve anything. You have to get your Self-realisation. Discretion was very important. At this juncture when we are facing a sort of challenge of this new millennium – that the whole world is going to be destroyed and all those things that people are talking – it is really very important to know through discretion what is good and what is bad. One may talk of something as very good, something as very bad. But the Divine Discretion is very, very different. Very different, and which acts by itself. Once you are in the realm of Divine Discretion, you cannot commit mistakes. Even if you want to do it. I give you my example. We went to buy a house, and the fellow was like a beggar, he came and said “We have nothing, we have no food, they have taken away all our things, and we are just absolutely starving”. When he said that ‘we are starving, we have nothing’. So, I felt pity for him. So, I said, “Alright, increase the price”. First, we increased the price and still he was saying, “No, no, give us more”. Still we increased the price; I told my husband “You increase the price”. Though reluctantly, he increased the price. The third time again we increased the price, and then he said, “No, we’ll have something more than that, a little more”. Immediately this discretion worked and I said, “These are hypocrites”. I just left them and sat in the car. At the right moment. That was not such a good proposition or anything, but they could see that I am buying it out of my pity, of my compassion, but above the compassion was this discretion that said, “Nothing doing, you’d better get out of it!” So, this Divine Discretion is a very, very important thing, which we should see how it works and should be satisfied with that. Not to feel bad that you’ve missed a chance or anything, but you must feel very happy that this thing has happened and that your Divine Discretion has taken on. So, sometimes it appears that in that Divine Discretion you may do something wrong, or you have done something wrong. But if it is Divine, ultimately it will turn out to be very good. I will give you a very basic example, but that is also very true when you practice Sahaja Yoga: the discretion of Divine Discretion is extremely important to play a very great part in our lives, because this Divine Discretion gives us the real joy of our being, of our self, of Sahaja Yoga. So, the third point was for him to make people joyous and happy. But with all these maryadas of Shri Rama, he didn’t know how to do it. So, to give people joy he said “Alright, let us dance, let us sing, let us play Holi [Indian Festival of dance], all sorts of things” and with that he really originated many things that were really not serious, may look frivolous, but in that there was joy expressed. All that he did, to give them a full idea as for a Sahaja Yogi, or we can say for a Self-Realised soul, what would be the attitude towards everything. But it is not that you have to do it, but it just works out, it is like that. That in the state of Sahaj you enjoy everything. Enjoyment. And that is what his idea was, to create a sense of joy among people. Many people, there are lots of critics, have criticised this part of his life, according to them religion means you should become old just at the age of twenty years – you should become an old man of 80 years, something like that. Funny ideas of religious achievement. But he talked of joy, and he never talked of renunciation. He never talked that you give up your family, you give up your children, you give up everything – never, never. He said, “You must enjoy – enjoy with detachment”. But for people it is very difficult to understand how can it be that it is without detachment (attachment?): with attachment you can never enjoy. If you are attached to something, you cannot enjoy anything in a full way. Like supposing you are attached to your child. Very simple thing, you are attached to your child. If you are attached to your child then you will be bothered about things that should not be there, which will not give joy to the child either. You will not allow your child, say, to go out or to talk to people, whatever it is, all kinds of restrictions you are putting. But if you have really the Divine Discretion then you will know with whom he should talk, where he should go, what he should enjoy, and you will see that he enjoys that. Any attachment with anything doesn’t give you the full view of that person, or of that thing. If you are detached then you can see things from, let’s say, above, above the thing. If you are detached, you become thoughtlessly aware also. As I said now see the carpets are there, they are very, very beautiful carpets. Now if they are mine, I will be worried about them, I will be all the time worried because I am attached, that these carpets should not be spoiled, something may go wrong. But if I am not attached, I look at those carpets, and what do I see? The joy! The joy that was put in by the artist who made them. And that joy really tries to reflect in me also. That joy comes in me. So, to have an attachment to anything, there will be happiness but not joy. Because joy is single and happiness is double – happiness and unhappiness. So, even if I try to enjoy something I will think “Oh still there is this point [possible problem] is there”. But joy is all pervading. It has no boundaries, and you just get dissolved in the ocean of joy. That was what was Shri Krishna’s idea was, that to cut out these maryadas. Nowadays we see the maryadas of so many things are really useless.For example, you have discovered the maryadas of religion; see when they live in maryadas, then what happens they sort of coagulate, or they have all kinds of germination inside like the ponds, absolutely bound and it is not flowing like the river. So, like that you see it becomes a kind of a closed mind with these maryadas. And when you have these maryadas, you start thinking whether I should do it or not, whether I will enjoy it or not. But with these maryadas only you kill the joy. Now we have other maryadas, say as I told you about the religion. Many people who would love to come to Sahaja Yoga, but because they have maryadas of silly things of their religion, they cannot come. They think this is our religion. Why, they don’t understand. Falsehood becomes the maryadas and they don’t understand that what is the maryada is actually made by the religion also. You see now in Islam what is happening. It is with maryadas they want to have another country, this thing, that thing. In other Christian religion same thing happened. Also, in Hindu religion all these maryadas are really stagnating them completely and they are getting crushed into it. There is no discretion, because they have said it – they do it. They are so much blindfolded bout it that they cannot see what is right and what is wrong. But after Sahaja Yoga you can laugh at them and you can see them Then after we have social maryadas. Social maryadas are there, which are sometimes, when abandonment can become very horrid also. Like in the west now, the women think that the less dress they wear, the more beautiful they are. This is a new thing they have started. Now this is absurd, you should see the discretion behind it is very simple, that we have been animals and now we don’t want to have any clothes because we were animals. It is an animal heritage, which is why so many women do not want to wear full dresses. It is just animal behaviour. So, the maryada of good maryadas also – people can give up saying “We don’t want any maryadas, we are free, we can do whatever we like”. But in their freedom what do you achieve? Your animal instinct works in their freedom and you think you are a very free personality. Then we have maryadas of our country. God has not made different, different countries at all. Neither is it true that there are different countries, but variety is there. Variety of people, variety of places is there. These varieties must be accepted as something very artistic and one should not get ruined and confused with those ideas that we are Americans, we are Indians, we are this and we are that. You are not. Now you can know after Sahaja Yoga that you are all Sahaja Yogis, and you don’t belong to any country as such. The country may belong to you but you don’t belong to the country. I mean the work today is to understand that if you really want to care for all these countries and all that, then you must do some work, work of Sahaja Yoga, that people get rid of these silly ideas of fighting for territory, for this for that, all over the world it is going on. “We want this land. We want that land.” Land belongs to God, not to human beings, and what is the use of fighting for land, I don’t understand. But this confusion is there and illusion is there and people work out on this confusion and illusion to such an extent that they ruin their lives, the lives of their children, so many people are lost, so many people are in a lunatic asylum I should say, because they end up in some sort of a refugee camp. They are having a good house, nicely living there, and then you become a refugee. Why? Because they believe that they can have their own land, they can have their own place, and they should live there. This idea I think comes from some stupid leaders who want to have for themselves these lands. And that’s how people fight for land. There’s no need to fight for land, or fight for your country, or fight for this, or fight for that. But the situation is such that unless and until you fight you cannot get to the Truth. And that’s why, if you remember, that Shri Krishna told Arjuna that “You fight, you have to fight, that’s your work. You have to fight these people because they are the people who do not live with dharma. They are adharmees. So, you have to fight”. And that is how this fighting was so much justified because after fighting the war, they got back what they deserved. They were deceived and this is what Shri Krishna said, that you should not by any chance become a slave of these people, but you fight with them. So, fighting also is justified in the Divine Discretion. It is again the Divine Discretion, where you have to fight because you don’t want to be a slave. If you are a slave you are no good. So, for that you can fight. But when people start fighting for separation, for territory, it is not correct. On the contrary, one should never think of separating from the main lands. It creates lots of problems. But now we believe in the global religion, we believe in the global territory. We don’t have to ask for anything. Anywhere you go you are the citizen of that place. Anybody who wants to go to Russia ever, the whole of the Russians will be with you; you go to America, they will be with you. That’s how, because all these are ideas of human beings, and if the human beings get transformed, there will be no problem of any war, or of any territory to be achieved. This was the Divine Discretion of Shri Krishna, which is instilled within us, as you know that this is a part and parcel of the Vishuddhi Chakra, where Shri Krishna resides. But when he rises to your Sahasrara, when he rises to that level, then he becomes Virata. So Virata’s chakra is placed in the head here above the Agnya. And this Virata is the form of Shri Krishna who has risen above the Agnya. When you are risen above the Agnya, you become a part and parcel of Virata’s land, we can say. Because unless and until you are above your ego, you are still involved with yourself, and with wrong ideas of maryadas. But when you rise above that and you become the Virata, the Great, then you are in the land of Virata, and Virata’s powers are tremendous. As has been seen by Arjuna, the form of Virata. The power of Virata becomes so tremendous that it acts globally. It acts in such a manner that you sit here – and anywhere it can act. I have seen that now. Many a times people say, “Mother, it’s a miracle. My mother was sick and she was not here and I just prayed and she got alright.” This is all the power of Virata. The power of Virata is that it can penetrate into the subtle side of human beings in such a manner that we are connected with everything, we are not separate, and every drop is connected with the ocean. We are connected with the whole universe. And when you become citizens, I should say, of Virata, then all the things with which you are connected also get your vibrations, your ideas, your ambitions – everything passes through that. And it works, it works. You have seen how many miracles have taken place in your lives. It is the Virata Shakti that works. Now for that we have to know how to worship Virata. First of all, you have to rise above your ego. Very important. Otherwise how can you worship? There is your ego standing in-between, and how can you rise up to the point of Virata? You have to pass through that. Once you are above your ego, you enter into the Kingdom of Virata. There the king is the Virata and you are the subjects who are looked after completely by Virata Shakti, by the power of Virata. But at that stage you become really a universal personality, in a way. Because whatever are the problems universally, now not necessarily that they should be attached to you or connected to you. Supposing a person is of that level. Now there may be a war in some other country, it can stop. Somebody who is feeling oppressed can win over. Anywhere your compassion moves, it works out. Wherever your attention will go, it will work out. And sometimes you are surprised as to “How it works, Mother, how these things work out, how these coincidences have taken place?” Only thing is, you have crossed that state of your ego and have gone into the state of Virata. Which is a very important thing to do, is to enter into the area of Virata. Then you don’t think this is your country, this belongs to you, that belongs to you – this belonging business finishes off. Then you belong to Virata. And he uses you for his own purpose in the sense that when your whole thinking is different, becomes global thinking, then he acts. And then his powers are manifold. And Krishna’s power is that he uses a conch to call people. I have given conches to all the leaders, so we have to now announce and call people. But at the level of Virata, you don’t have to do all that. At the level of Virata people just see, they will know. Just they will watch you and they will know. Just they will think you are human beings, and you are so sweet, so good, just like gems shining all the time, so they will be impressed. This comes through the Virata’s blessings. When you become that, then you forget about other things like you have big positions or anything, or you come from a very rich family and all that. All these nonsensical things which are actually not true. And all these things on which you want to exist, are no more. People like to show off their wealth, some people like to be very sort of demonstrative of what they think they are. But in the case of a person who rises above his ego and is a part and parcel of that Virata Shakti, enters into the kingdom of Virata, he knows he is very small. He is very small compared to that, and he just dissolves into that Shakti. And this should happen to us, that we should humble down, we should humble down and know that our powers, whatever we have, if they give us ego, we should get rid of it. We should not have that ego. We should get rid of it and we should actually achieve that state where you can be called as citizens of the Virata’s Power. May God bless you all Now, when you are entering into the kingdom of Virata, you have to be like children. You are children there. As children you enter. As Christ has said: "When you enter into the Kingdom of God, you have to be like children." And that is what you have to be today, all of you, to be innocent like children. You have to be innocent like children. H.H. Shri Matji Nirmala Devi

9/18/1999

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Interview in Milan 18th September 1999 SHRI MATAJI: Have you talked to them about Sahaj Yoga? GUIDO: She’s a yogini journalist, she’ been introducing….. S.M.: Alright G.: Also she has a miraculous healing in…..she was in Vashi S.M.: Good, very good…..so….you’ll be asked questions of….should we do this because……. G: also two doctors in the hall, they are just coming up if you…….. S.M.: alright JOURNALIST (INTRODUCING): She’s the director of a very important review of natural health, she is the director G.: she is the director of a magazine which is treating health and nature. J.: Riza Psicosomatica, well known G.: It’s a very well known magazine, there were also articles before about Sahaja Yoga J.: She is of Marie Claire, a magazine of Mondadori, the best in feminine magazine S.M.: ah…….this gentleman there? There are all Sahaj yogis? g.: yes, there are all Sahaj yogis J.: he is not a Sahaja yogi, public relation with journalists and magazines, public relation man with many journalists G.: public Relation man S.M.: This lady? J.: the wife S.M.: who’s behind? A.: Sahaja yogis, all Sahaja yogis S.M.:alright, so have you talked to them about Sahaja Yoga? G.: She spoke J.: yes, they know the name of Sahaja Yoga, they know…..do you want to ask to Shri Mataji….. S.M.: ask it in Italian and he’ll translate for me G.: She’s asking whether they can record……they’re asking whether they can record S.M.: All this G.: she’s asking whether, even by mistake, Sahaja Yoga can be used in a bad way, in the sense, in the negative way? S.M.: Can not, it can not, because the principle is that you have to raise this residual power of Kundalini, that is the principle. Now Sahaja means “spontaneous” and Yoga means “the union with the Divine”, so when you are connected to the Divine you can’t do wrong. But we have people who have failed in Sahaja Yoga, because basically they were, I should say not good persons, low level, very low level……some, some…….and one was a criminal…..we found about him, you see…….we could give them realization, of course straight but he could not stay. They wanted to cheat people, all kind of nonsensical things. Then they go against Sahaja Yoga, very few. G.: She’s saying in a wrong person can be a sort of a power which can go against J: like magic S.M.: they can’t get power you see. Supposing this electricity has some fault, the electricity cannot pass. They may firstly say:”They are Sahaja Yogis”, but they are not. G.: Would like to explain more about Sahaja Yoga, what are the aims…… S.M.: this is for our evolution, the last step of our evolution, last…….now we have become human beings, alright, but still we have many things of the animal in heritance and we have not got connected to this All Pervading Power which is subtle, these two problems. The third problem with the human beings is this that sometimes they profess untruth. So to find the truth, the reality, what you have to become is union with the Divine Ghost and then you become the Spirit. You are no more the body, the emotions, the intellect, but you are the Spirit, pure Spirit. As a result, whatever are clinging to us because of inheritance maybe or whatever you are quite a little more thinking, drops out. So this is the last, we should say, last breakthrough of our evolution, last breakthrough. For this there is a power within us, in the triangular bone, already placed, is there in this state. This one has to be ……we should say….has to be awakened. As one candle which is enlightened can only enlighten another light. In the same way once you are enlightened you can also enlighten another one. So is it….this is for the real resurrection of human beings because complete transformation takes place. Firstly you become very creative, secondly you become a satisfied person, thirdly you may develop a very good music maybe….or anything with the throat once goes out in a way that you can sing very well, you can talk very well, also the voice improves. then your thinking process, which is very strong, whatever you see, you react. You see according to the past or the future conditionings you react. What she says…….. G.: She’s saying this Kundalini awakening can happen only through this…….through some ignit….. or through an expansion of the awareness? S.M.: an expansion of awareness?…..no no no…it is as I told you one enlightened light can enlighten another light, in the same way if you are enlightened you can raise our kundalini. That’s why I’m coming to you now, that your awareness become collective consciousness, become collective, you can feel another person on your fingertips, you can feel it on your fingertips, the centres, centres are there within, you can feel on your fingertips but when you come to this point, then you become thoughtlessly aware. Now as I told you with reactions, one thought like this from the past maybe from the future, another thought like this and falls. And in between these thoughts there is a little space which is the present. When you cross this point then you become thoughtlessly aware means you come in the present. Then you become just a witness, you don’t react. Like see, this is a beautiful carpet: if I start thinking about it and take from where they got it, how much money they had paid, how much I’ll have to pay. Or else if it is mine I will be worried about why to insure it or not. But I watch it, just witness it without thinking and then what happens I become thoughtless. And all the joy that is put into this by the artists is re-joy. That’s how you enjoy, that’s how you enjoy. This is the last point I would start the actualization of the baptism: when it opens out you get connected to this all pervading power of Divine Love. Then you become like a drop in the ocean, and you become very peaceful, you become absolutely peaceful. All the violence, all the jealousies and all the vengeance, everything drops out. That’s only the part of it but also these centres that are within you are responsible for physical, mental and emotional being. So many people who are seekers can get cured. So many people who are mentally handicapped can get cured, like lunatics, schizophrenics G.: she’s saying what about the karmic illness? S.M.: Karma…..now when you become one with that Divine power all your karmas get dissolved, completely finished, there’s no more left karmas. Because you are not that person what you were with karma. With the karmas I want to explain that you get a personality that Is more either bent towards spirituality or towards violence or anything, do clear karmas, temperament but not any sufferings because you know Christ suffered so much, do you think he would have done by karmas? So the theory that because you have done bad karmas so you suffer it’s not correct. This theory was established by Shri Krishna especially karma theory but Krishna was a very clever man and he knew that all human beings have something up in their heads. So in his Gita very trickily he has put: like in the Karma, Karma Yoga he said that whatever work you do you put at the lotus feet of God, the pahlu, means the fruit of it. That’s an impossible situation: because when you do something you know you have done it, so you cannot put the fruit onto some. So he wanted human beings to try this but it doesn’t work. Second thing he’s told about our bhakti, devotion. That you give me fruits, you give me flowers, you give me water, I’ll take but here used very symbolic word: you should do this with Ananya bhakti, when there is no the other means you become one with Me. So whatever worship you do also, it should be after you are connected with the Divine. So this karma theory should be understood properly. Otherwise people go into guilt for nothing at all: with that you catch all this centre here or this centre here and you might get spondylitis or you might get even angina. We have already a hospital in India where many people go from all over the world and for outdoor patients we don’t charge anything and for indoor patient we charge 3 compare…..300 rupees are…. 3 dollars, 3 pounds….about 3 dollars for indoor. But if they take a private room and all that, there is more. Because as it is we don’t give any medicines or anything, just by giving you balance it works out. When you are in imbalance then you get diseases either physical or mental. G.: She wants to have your definition about health and illness first of all and then the role of Nature in curing certain diseases? S.M.: so what does she want to know….. G.: your idea about health and illness S.M.: I told you when you go into imbalances on the mental side or on the physical side then you get illness. If it could be corrected, then you are away. G.: and what is the role of Nature…… S.M.: Nature always try to help you but sometimes we go against the Nature, is very sympathetic, is very calm G.: she says that human beings have forgotten the Nature, actually they go against the Nature. But in Sahaja Yoga we come to know again all the five elements and the Nature itself S.M.: Nature understands us once you are one with the Divine because Divine is looking after the Nature. So whatever are your requirements, Nature gives. We don’t respect the Nature, that’s our problem. Say in India when we get up first we say salute to the Mother Earth because we are going to touch her with our feet to begin with. G.: She says….. S.M.: Who’s coming……who is there? G.: maybe some doctors have come……if somebody doesn’t have the luck to meet Sahaja Yoga what will have? I mean is it possible that the Kundalini can rise by itself? S.M.: no, I’m sorry. No, I mean somebody who is a realized soul, any realized soul may try to raise the Kundalini but so far I’ve not met anyone who is a non Sahaja yogi could raise the Kundalini. But I have travelled in every country, every country I’ve travelled it was all announced and told to people. But they are not so receptive as the Italians are I should say. G.: she’s asking who raised Your Kundalini? S.M.: I was born G.: She’s asking who are You? S.M: that you have to discover…..you see once you know yourself you’ll know Me also….you have to know yourself first…….what she said G.: she said you don’t want answer, you don’t answer S.M.: she’s very innocent…….she has not asked me any question G: she is full of emotion S.M.: this lady could bring woman’s baptism, the land of woman also G.: she says it’s very difficult to combine the life of a family, the family life with the spiritual life? S.M.: not at all, it’s much easier….see now I’m a grandmother, great grandmother, I’ve daughters, they have children, and they have children….now my husband is here sir CP, come along, you tell how sort of family life….. she wants to record G.: she says in family life it would be much easier if all the members are Sahaja Yogis? S.M.: in my family I’m the only one…let’s see Peter Sir C.P.: I stand up to speak? G.: you seat here Sir if you like Sir CP.: She was born what She is but it took some time even for Her to know what She is but was inside Her. Once it happened to Her, She knew but for some time she was a family wife. But in 1970 She decided to enter the world and begin this new movement. From the moment we got married I found how to be a different person, you know, not the normal human being. For example I was and I’m still fond of good food but she would eat anything whether was not so good or so good or whether have some salt in it or didn’t have. She wouldn’t question, she was different. In our family we have two daughters to begin with small but we had number of relations whose children would come to our house to live with us and She would give them the same love as She gave to our own children, no difference. Because for Her all the children of the world are the same including our children, no difference. But I tell you the story which changed me ‘cause I’m a bureaucrat, I’m a diplomat, I’m a trained service servant so I want to understand from my…everything. So one day I had an experience that changed me: I got the job, I got elected as secretary- general of the United Nations Maritime Organization in London so I’m going someday to London and we took up a house. And one day if you are living the two of us in the house, one evening when I returned home from office, I found a young man, quite young man sitting in my rainproof on a sofa and reading a newspaper and I didn’t know how he had come because we had no plan, wearing my clothes. And I thought I was seen something wrong, so I went out and I went to Her I’m seeing something wrong with me and she said no no no. Then She told me he was sick, he was a sick boy with a cancer. She had gone to London Piccadilly Circus, there she saw a young man just lying uncareful, so she went up to him out of compassion, as I told you she has a lot of compassion for everyone and ask him:” What’s the matter? Why are you lying here?”. she didn’t know who he was but he said: ”I’m sorry I have nobody to look after me, I’m very ill”. So She said: ”Alright, come with me in my car, I’ll take you home”. So he came to the house in no clothes, he had to be given a bath and he had to change his clothes so he had to get my clothes, no other clothes with him. I was very happy, I welcomed that because it was a very compassionate act of Hers. And then I saw the influence of Her Divine Love she talks about, her love creating a new person out of that work. He stayed with us for about two or three months but he blossomed into a beautiful, healthy young man. He was suffering from jaundice probably and other diseases (S.M.: Cancer) probably but he got cured. He became a healthy young man and he went back to his parents in Australia. Now can you imagine the happiness of his father and mother that lost his son, he goes back transformed by Her, that changed me also. Saying the nice things many drug people, people who take drugs changing overnight, they give up drugs overnight not because they have to do something, they don’t have anymore the need for drug. Suddenly they are changed by raising the Kundalini inside, the power, they don’t want drugs, they don’t want alcohol, they don’t want immoralism. S.M.: they don’t smoke Sir C.P.: they don’t smoke. Why? Because she doesn’t say “Don’t smoke!”, she doesn’t say “Don’t smoke!”. They themselves don’t need drugs, don’t need smoke, don’t need alcohol, that is the kind of transformation which takes place. The most important need as I see of the world to come, on the Shri Mataji’s world (?), is good human beings, people who will all want to live together regardless of religion, regardless of race, regardless of country, one man one earth one environment. We have to create a new human being and She is creating those new human beings like Mr. Guido. G.: how much can the faith help us in this process and how much the doubt can be an obstacle for our growth S.M.: Faith in what? G.: the faith in Sahaja Yoga…..how much it can be a more help and how much the skepticism can be an obstacle for our growth? S.M.: You see, once you get the experience, what I’m saying, once you get the experience, the actualization, then if you are honest you can be now, if you are dishonest it’s alright. In that experience you can feel on your fingertips this All Pervading Power of Love. And then there are these five six and seven centers on the left side and five six and seven centres on the right side. Now on your fingertips you can feel your own centres and then you know what’s wrong with you. That means the Self knowledge. Another thing is if you want to know what is right and what is wrong. Supposing some man is there and says: ”I’m very spiritual” and doubt, you put both your hands towards that person and you will feel on your fingers heat, very tingling sometimes I get blister also for a while or sometimes nothing and sometimes also vibrations. Also if you want to decide whether this is right or wrong you put your hands like this and if it is right you’ll get vibrations ,if it is wrong nothing. So you see it is giving you absolute, absolute truth, absolute knowledge. G.: when we start thinking about then we create an obstruction? S.M.: alright, maybe but you see you have to go beyond thought as Einstein said that you have to go to torsion area, beyond thought. G.: how much the fear can damage us? S.M.: Fear can damaged a lot but it can be cured completely…..it comes by the centre heart, so once it is settled in, once it is properly nourished then you don’t have any fear G.: How do you nourish the centre? S.M: you see, there are so many ways in Sahaja Yoga by which you can nourish your centre, you see and can get corrected by a Sahaja Yogi, he can do it or you come before the photograph also can work it out because the photograph has got vibrations. G.: she’s asking whether you are considering yourself a Sahaja Yogi? (to Mr. C.P.) Sir CP.: I’m an apprentice Sahaja Yogi not as good as he is. I’m trying to be. I want to say something: you have to have faith in yourself (S.M.: and also time). If you believe there is an All Pervading Power, if there is an All Pervading Power and you believe in yourself then She puts you in touch with that. And once you are in touch with that Power you are part of the Power. And then one changes S.M.: and we get the help of course. I think their responsibility is very great, they should realize it Sir C.P.: for the guru of the all world G.: she says it’s very difficult to communicate through words S.M.: you should write it down you should get the experience, write it down clearly that we have the experience. You should have courage to say that, you’ll clear away nobler(?). G.: do you think this is the only way to meet you up or there are other way? S.M: As far as I know this is the only way, this is all created by God Himself. I’ll tell you a simple thing: this is connected with the mains, if it is not, it won’t give the light. G.: she says Love is not enough? S.M.: Love? No your love has to be Divine Love….that doesn’t expect anything, it just flows and it works G.: and she says this is enough without raising the Kundalini? S.M.: no you can’t because your love will be limited, you might be loving your husband maybe your children maybe…… limited but here you become like an ocean G.: she is trying to understand because she saw in Bhagavad Gita that sometimes this selfless love is enough to give this connection to God? S.M.: that same thing Krishna’s tricks, it is Krishna’s tricks you see because he knew that human beings are not easy to understand, so he has said all these things but is a trick. In the beginning only he has said about Stitha Pragnya, this is a realized soul or a Sahaja Yogi, he described and after that he doesn’t say how. So he calls it as Gyana yoga, the yoga of knowledge…….so he says that you should get absolute knowledge and when you get the absolute knowledge what happens to you he describes. But he doesn’t say about kundalini. It was 6000 years back, so you see if human being were not at that era aware, he didn’t say anything. Also In 1902 (XII century) Gyana Devaki was the first man ,who wrote about it, taking the permission of his guru, he wrote a commentary on Gita and in the sixth chapter he described that with the Kundalini awakening you can become Stitha Pragnya or a realized soul. In those days the system was that one guru used to give to one disciple. This was the Param-param, means tradition, one person. Then Gyana Deva took permission just to write it. But in the XVI century there were many of them: Guru Nanaka was there, Kabir , all these, and also in Maharastra so saints came in and they talked about Kundalini. Sir C.P.: even about bhakti, he said complete bhakti, complete union which means the same thing She is saying how to bring at about, complete union is bhakti , total merging that is possible…… S.M.: because supposing you do bhakti you are not connected, how God is going to be save you? Sir C.P.: this is the process: kundalini helps you to become one with God, this is a process. S.M.: and without that connection if you do bhakti is fruitless….this is the reason why all religions have failed. ‘cause they became very power oriented, money oriented but never spiritually oriented. That’s why they are fighting among themselves widely G.: there is a reason why God didn’t reveal before all this ? S.M.: you have to mature and these are special times of Last Judgement. G.: if you can tell something about this period where we are living S.M.: it’s very precious G.: she says it’s a period of changing S.M.: of course, this the period of truth also of great turmoil and of transformation, we should say this the blossom time, means many flowers are going to become fruits. G.: she says you are travelling so much: there is a particular receptivity now for Sahaja Yoga and in which countries? S.M: in which country? I can’t say I would say in Europe, Italy and Austria because Italians have open heart. Same with Austrians because they are farmers and they are down to earth. Especially Russians, multi, multi there. The reason is they were so much oppressed by communism that they went inside very deep, they are very deep, very very deep. And they have taken to Sahaja Yoga just like a fish takes to water. Thousands and thousands, very sensitive, very sensitive, absolutely I mean remarkable. Of course in India everybody knows that you have to get your Self Realization. Now I should say in India we have many more people, but Russia has also….. G.: but you are feeling that at this particular time there is more….people are more open everywhere S.M: of course, of course, thanks to (?) also……horrifying news coming everytime, so many earthquakes, accidents G.: she saying, she’s mentioning Kali Yuga S.M: She read a lot I think, it is, the worst kali yuga, kali yuga is that time, this is the worst time of kali yuga. The kali is the one who when it rains he pulls people into delusion (Sapram), confusion and in that confusion many get lost. Once Kali was called by Nala who were separated him from Damayanti, his wife. So Nala said “I’m going to kill you now” and cut hold(?) of him. So he said, Kali said:”Alright. Listen to my importance and then you can kill me”. So he says that when I will rain, then many people will going into delusion and into mental problems but there will be many who will get their self realization specially those who are searching God and divinity on the dales and dales becoming sanyasis. He said “they will be householders not sanyasi, they will be householders and they will get their realization in my kali yuga. And because of delusion they will seek and seek the truth. There were never so many seekers before, there’s the blessing of kali yuga in a way. G.: if the doctors have some questions they can stay also S.M.: this doctor is a Sahaja Yogi and this doctor can ask me, that I know G.: if you can briefly explain the relationship between Sahaja Yoga and medicine? S.M.: Medicine? Wow. It’s a long subject….I’ll tell you, listen, all physical ailments come to us through imbalances. As you know we have autonomous nervous system, and we have left and right side of sympathethic and central one’s parasympathetic. Supposing you want to increase the beat of your heart in run you can increase, it’s sympathetic but would you stay sit and bring to the normal, it’s parasympathetic. But doctors know very little about parasympathetic and they cannot control it also. Now like this we have left and right vertebrae joint together to form centre in between. So whenever you exhaust the energy of the centre, you catch it. For example if you are very right-sided, you think for the future, all this thinking about money and progress and all kind, you become right-sided. So this overactivity can give you many diseases. he say give me at(?) a doctor who started working too hard also in the afternoon he used to work and this and that, not took any meditative district. So he got paraplegia, his right leg and right arm became absolutely I should say soon….paralysed. he couldn’t walk but I have told him that now he has some age so he should rest in the day time but he didn’t listen to me and continuously was working. And without telling me he was travelling all over. So then I told him what it is Sahaja Yoga treatment that put your right foot in the water and right hand towards the photograph. And also your put left hand up like that, so the vibrations will come from here and soothe this right side. so also he has bad liver on the right side so here other complications can develop so I told him take liver treatment as in sahaja yoga, there’s a liver diet which you have to take. If you take the liver diet then the right side reduces means you take more vegetables and cooling things. If this heat treat this side, you get paralysis on the right side. So you have to put ice on liver and ice here and for liver sugar is very important, that is medicine. That’s how now he’s alright and he’s walking about. That is how you can even cure paralysis on the right side. Now for example think of cancer which is a very big problem. Cancer can be cured with Sahaja Yoga: we have cured all kinds of cancer. But doctors don’t believe and I tell them that our left side is all our past, but past from the….since all the creation was created. Cancer can come on any one of the centres, cannot say where it truly come but more that you use centre, it works. Say for example sore (throat) cancer, if you shout, if you use your throat too much you catch here. So what happens like this in the centre here like this do vertebrae with it, at the vishuddhi, now suddenly you are shouting, you are doing everything like that you see the energy get lost on the right side. And something suddenly happens to use some sort of a shock, maybe some sort of movement to the left side, emotional side, it breaks. When it breaks, what happens this become solid(?) soon. It grows on its own, means malignancy. Same thing happen with the nabhi, with the stomach, nabhi, where these chakras are, they are working too hard with your nabhi, running after money, thinking about this, the liver goes out of work and maybe suddenly something can happen in your family or anyway in the emotional and it breaks. But now the main problem is liver. First you eat food which is not good for the liver, Italians also. Now this liver has a function to eliminate all the poison away in the blood, it is heat, heat of the body. But when liver goes out of order this heat starts rising up and there is a chakra on the right side here, we call it right heart, so the heat goes there and the person suffers from asthma. And also there is this left movement is there plus this heat. Now there is some young boy, say 25 or less than that, he’s playing tennis and drinks and his liver is out. At that young age he gets a massive attack, massive which is mostly fatal. So now this heat can go to the heart and it can also pass to the left side and you can get diabetes. If it moves downward on the spleen it acts and one can get blood cancer. Alright? Blood cancer, you call it blood cancer? Alright, then leukemia, then if it passes onto intestines you can get intestinal troubles of all kinds: misery, constipation, biles. So with one liver so many problems are there. According to Sahaja Yoga the second centre of Swadishthana works for creating energy also for the brain, for the cells of the energy, for the grey cells, we never think or we think so much and how the energy comes. So firstly when all the organs are affected maybe that this job of sending energy to the brain cells might not work, when the liver is out. And all that she can accumulate on the left hand side because they cross like that. So you can get the paralysis of the right hand side. With this doctor Seth it happened but it has not reached that serious state of paralysis but paralysed, they call paraplegia. So what you have to use is ice here, ice here and you have to take a kind of a food that will not give you heat, you can take to vegetarian food, not for everyone but only for people who have liver. So by one centre being put into trouble how many diseases come, with one centre. But if you cool down, cool down your liver it immediately helps. I’m sorry to say that in allopathy there is no medicine to cool down the liver but in ayurveda there is and with that there are many medicines. I’m also going to start some ayurveda medicines because I know so many…… G.: what is your idea, your opinion about meat? S.M.: meat, they can eat in case they have no liver trouble, they should eat meat, there’s no problem. But if you have liver, and avoid fish. Fish has potassium, it’s a dangerous thing. What a sort of…….I’ll have some water, thank you. Anyone afraid can ask me a question? G.: she wanted to know something about you, about your staying in Gandhi’s Ashram S.M.: yes, you know we were 11 brothers and sisters and my father, he took us to Gandhaji, so he said “ I've got”, he said “you’ve got a complete team with you”, he said “you can take anyone you like”. He just pick me up, I was only seven years. And because of my cheek bones very high he used to call me “Nepali”, he was very very kind to me and also with children, very kind. He was also a realized soul but very strict with others. He used to give full whiz(?) except for me nobody could tell relish in the ashram. The food was hard boiled and Indians don’t like that kind you know but I used to eat. We used to get up at 4 o’clock in the morning, take our baths and go for the prayers. And there were snakes on the way and sometimes in the pair they would come in front of human just moving like that. But we could not complain to him. But with others he was very very strict because he said: ”we have to have our freedom, for that we need discipline”. And he used to say: ”I’m very disciplined” so I said: “I’m like that” but everybody can’t be like that. But he was also very meticulous, very meticulous. He had seven stones for going to the bathroom because we have bathroom outside so we walk on the mud, he had put seven stones. And then one day they put one more and he used to count while going count, while back. And then increase one, so he got very angry,” why did you increase, seven are alright because of seven chakras”. Like that he was a very very intelligent man and extremely honest, extremely honest. I remember so many octigens(?) : once there was, the meeting was there and that time it took some time so he said to all “alright, we have lunch here”. and his wife had gone out and she had given the key of the store, so he went and opened the store. And according to the number of people 1600 charka we call it of a sieve was that much is to be taken out, to measure for all of them. So people said so “ Sir we didn’t know you’ll have to do so much work we could never have lunch here”. So he said “what? This is the blood of my country”. He was extremely kind to Me I should say. For his bhajanaudi(?) to see the right potential, he asked me according to chakras you tell me what first, then second, then third and that’s what yet. And he made them all vegetarians so I said “why do you force them like this?” he said “they are all liver patients”. Another thing was that whenever he was unhappy or angry or anything he would not take anything to eat, that was the best way, very childish, so I had……they would ask me to take the glass of orange juice for him, from me he would take. So according about Sahaja Yoga he said that it has to be done but after the independence. Because just now we are a slave country. So you just wait. At that time i was very young also. What sort memories of Mahatma Gandhi……what she said? G.: How he accepted you? S.M.: he was a realized soul, that’s it G.: she says when, how did you realize your inner power? S.M.: I was born like that…….how do we realize we are human beings? G.: how did you realize you were different from other people? S.M.: because, you see, if you are a human being you know you are not animals, but I never show I was different but on the whole I was a peaceful person and forebearing way, forebearing apart for others, very compassionate comparing to them and extremely generous. And I has to be for the poor, so this is they thought I was different. I never used to get angry, never used to shout or anything. g.: you were not worried about this diversity? S.M.: I don’t know what is worry Sir C.P.: I’m so worried about that…..she would never worry about anything, give it to me S.M.: I have no fear, no worry Sir C.P.: so she was so different, that’s how you know someone different. I told you about our house, in my office, everywhere so was different from the rest, that’s how people get to recognize it. She is someone different from others. She can not count money, i’m not an expert myself anyway, she is much worse than me, she can’t count the money, she doesn’t know banking S.M.: I don’t know how to write a cheque. Banking for me would be really lost Sir C.P: I’m not a very expert but still I can manage. But I want to say something you do ask why this time is so different. If you see kali yuga, if you see the world today, atomic powers in many countries, atomic S.M.: so many Sir C.P. : we have environment S.M.: all kinds of problems Sir C.P. be spoiled everywhere, all over, we have extra beating in the world, the world moving towards disaster. Unless human being reckon now and better you can better human being, start living better, start consuming less of this earth, the world will go to a disaster. So as Krishna said “When time comes I will appear from time to time”. She has appeared now at the right time to tell people still time for you to think change yourself, become better human beings, come together S.M.: and love, love each and everyone, without any expectations Sir C.P. people are quarrelling, hindu, muslims, Christian, they are all children of one God. Why fight? What for? People are fighting in the name of one God. After the magnes(?) she says there one divine power they are all children of the same God, please come together. That’s the her message J.: do you think it’s possible all this? Sir C.P: it’s happening, it’s happening, you see here, you see the Sahaja Yogis of the world you will find they are really different people from the rest. To me S.M: yes they are Sir C.P.: I call them angels, because human beings have been transformed, living in a very different way. S.M. they are the best people, sahaja yogi, the way they love each other, they care for each other, all over the world Sir C.P. it’s one human family now. If you go from here to America or Australia, they meet each other and they are all brothers and sisters. It’s not unnatural, it’s natural, it’s true, genuine. And look at his face, it’s a different face, you know S.M.: he is one of the first Sahaja Yogis Sir C.P.: I find they are very different, I’m not yet there, that’s why I said I’m an apprentice, I’m trying. But they are truly good transformed people and they are the future of mankind. I firstly think the most marvellous work not because she is my wife because I think the world needs a person to transform it and the time is now: if people take up really and they learn to live together, the world can change. if it doesn't change. (S.M. I'm already 77, how long I have to be at work) could you believe it? what do you see her age? she is 77. does she look 77? S.M. but how long I don't know I have to work now...... Sir C.P. many many work G.: how can your skin is so beautiful? Sir C.P.: Sahaj, approaching the source of Sahaja Yoga. (S.M.: skin?) and I'm 80 and I'm still alive S.M: always you will have good skins if you take to Sahaj, yea it's true, isn't it? Voce esterna: we have to go to program S.M.: any other questions? the doctors do you have any question? G.: if you can say something about acupuncture? S.M.: acupuncture is this way that they put your problem on one centre so they take the energy of the other centre and you develop the other problem. so acupuncture was done before by Zen system of people and they were all realized souls so there was no sort question of imbalance, unless and until you are realized you should do that. So you will wide develop some other problem. So best thing is to get the mounting (?) through kundalini so you don't develop any problems like that. All these letters I tell you even they have Hatha Yoga , they have other yoga and all that is so artificial because they don't know where is the problem. Unless and until you are realized you won't know. It's very dangerous for anyone to do all the asanas, very dangerous. We took and recommend some, one or two asanas to someone who is ..... in very bad shape but normally is not necessary. This is the problem is that so many books have been written, I've seen people have written books also against Kundalini. So all these methods without realization are very dangerous. The Zen system I believe in that, but you are not Zens you see, you are more than Zens. Because they have to use some rituals to make you thoughtless. Like they'll have a big piece covered with stones, with all the lines and some stones here and some stones there. Now you have to sit there and watch there. the idea was that you should not react, you should not say anything just watch, because somebody can said these are like shapes, can say something, nothing to be said, just watch. but it didn't work. and to the realized soul this has to call "kalchapa" and the head of the Zen system came and he got six or they call me. So I told him "you are not a realized soul how could you head of the Zen?". He said "I'm not the kalchapa". and till the 6th century we had kalchapas, after that we had nothing. the Sufis were realized souls, Sufis were realized souls. and we have had many saints who were realized souls. you can make out on your fingertips if somebody is a saint or not. Now they say Christ was the son of God: was he or not, ask Him. He was. call and feel, just feel it, you put together, your feet, you should take out the shoes, just put your hands, just put your hands. Be comfortable, now see like this little low. now see if you are getting any cool breeze or hot breeze. please Don't close your eyes. Got it, are you feeling? now put your hand here, there might be hot coming out of you, maybe, I don't know. let's try on top, on top, here. now there is, cool or hot? G.: hot S.M.: oh dear, let the heat go out, yes. alright now you put another hand like this and see with your left hand, put your right hand like this, it's alright, it's alright, you have got already. now see, now better? keep your eyes open. now cooler? see hot, alright I'll do balance again. are you alright? now better, no here in the fontanel bone area which was so cool, there G.: she feels hot S.M: the other way round, the other way round, she has felt it? are you feeling? G.: what is the meaning of the heat? one.... S.M.: Heat means that you are right-sided, you think too much, to work very hard, all this that, heat has to go out, alright, has to cool, that's the sign, futuristic, she is alright now, better. This gentleman has got. Walter you see this gentleman has got, your neighbour. from the very beginning she was very receptive, she's got. what about you madam? not yet. feel hot. don't think, don't think G.: she is thinking too much S.M.: don't think too much, futuristic, plan the future, it's alright...now? cooler? you see him, she cools down. got it, yes. to see it, what about you? you got it? what about the doctors? he's alright? there was one doctor here, he's gone out? right side, put him left to the right, put left high, put right down. she has the same problem, she has the same problem, put left to the right. now raise, raise, entangled. done. there is cool. you are alright, you all are alright. you are alright also, little heat will go, alright. where has the other doctor gone? S.Y.: he has to go Mother, he has the small children. S.M: thank you Sir C.P: Thank you S.M.: now you have to write about this, the fact, the truth, alright? so others can.....that is the best use of Vidya, we have to save also the young people. I'm trying to have a ............. for drug addiction if the government gives the permission, we are trying for drug addiction. that is another courses. I got the place but your government has to give me permission. I beg pardon? yes. I hope they will. because we won't charge them much, just for their food and stay, because they must be corrected now once this drug is a horrible thing, thank you very much.

Interview in Milan 18th September 1999 SHRI MATAJI: Have you talked to them about Sahaj Yoga? GUIDO: She’s a yogini journalist, she’ been introducing….. S.M.: Alright G.: Also she has a miraculous healing in…..she was in Vashi S.M.: Good, very good…..so….you’ll be asked questions of….should we do this because……. G: also two doctors in the hall, they are just coming up if you…….. S.M.: alright JOURNALIST (INTRODUCING): She’s the director of a very important review of natural health, she is the director G.: she is the director of a magazine which is treating health and nature. J.: Riza Psicosomatica, well known G.: It’s a very well known magazine, there were also articles before about Sahaja Yoga J.: She is of Marie Claire, a magazine of Mondadori, the best in feminine magazine S.M.: ah…….this gentleman there? There are all Sahaj yogis? g.: yes, there are all Sahaj yogis J.: he is not a Sahaja yogi, public relation with journalists and magazines, public relation man with many journalists G.: public Relation man S.M.: This lady? J.: the wife S.M.: who’s behind? A.: Sahaja yogis, all Sahaja yogis S.M.:alright, so have you talked to them about Sahaja Yoga? G.: She spoke J.: yes, they know the name of Sahaja Yoga, they know…..do you want to ask to Shri Mataji….. S.M.: ask it in Italian and he’ll translate for me G.: She’s asking whether they can record……they’re asking whether they can record S.M.: All this G.: she’s asking whether, even by mistake, Sahaja Yoga can be used in a bad way, in the sense, in the negative way? S.M.: Can not, it can not, because the principle is that you have to raise this residual power of Kundalini, that is the principle. Now Sahaja means “spontaneous” and Yoga means “the union with the Divine”, so when you are connected to the Divine you can’t do wrong. But we have people who have failed in Sahaja Yoga, because basically they were, I should say not good persons, low level, very low level……some, some…….and one was a criminal…..we found about him, you see…….we could give them realization, of course straight but he could not stay. They wanted to cheat people, all kind of nonsensical things. Then they go against Sahaja Yoga, very few. G.: She’s saying in a wrong person can be a sort of a power which can go against J: like magic S.M.: they can’t get power you see. Supposing this electricity has some fault, the electricity cannot pass. They may firstly say:”They are Sahaja Yogis”, but they are not. G.: Would like to explain more about Sahaja Yoga, what are the aims…… S.M.: this is for our evolution, the last step of our evolution, last…….now we have become human beings, alright, but still we have many things of the animal in heritance and we have not got connected to this All Pervading Power which is subtle, these two problems. The third problem with the human beings is this that sometimes they profess untruth. So to find the truth, the reality, what you have to become is union with the Divine Ghost and then you become the Spirit. You are no more the body, the emotions, the intellect, but you are the Spirit, pure Spirit. As a result, whatever are clinging to us because of inheritance maybe or whatever you are quite a little more thinking, drops out. So this is the last, we should say, last breakthrough of our evolution, last breakthrough. For this there is a power within us, in the triangular bone, already placed, is there in this state. This one has to be ……we should say….has to be awakened. As one candle which is enlightened can only enlighten another light. In the same way once you are enlightened you can also enlighten another one. So is it….this is for the real resurrection of human beings because complete transformation takes place. Firstly you become very creative, secondly you become a satisfied person, thirdly you may develop a very good music maybe….or anything with the throat once goes out in a way that you can sing very well, you can talk very well, also the voice improves. then your thinking process, which is very strong, whatever you see, you react. You see according to the past or the future conditionings you react. What she says…….. G.: She’s saying this Kundalini awakening can happen only through this…….through some ignit….. or through an expansion of the awareness? S.M.: an expansion of awareness?…..no no no…it is as I told you one enlightened light can enlighten another light, in the same way if you are enlightened you can raise our kundalini. That’s why I’m coming to you now, that your awareness become collective consciousness, become collective, you can feel another person on your fingertips, you can feel it on your fingertips, the centres, centres are there within, you can feel on your fingertips but when you come to this point, then you become thoughtlessly aware. Now as I told you with reactions, one thought like this from the past maybe from the future, another thought like this and falls. And in between these thoughts there is a little space which is the present. When you cross this point then you become thoughtlessly aware means you come in the present. Then you become just a witness, you don’t react. Like see, this is a beautiful carpet: if I start thinking about it and take from where they got it, how much money they had paid, how much I’ll have to pay. Or else if it is mine I will be worried about why to insure it or not. But I watch it, just witness it without thinking and then what happens I become thoughtless. And all the joy that is put into this by the artists is re-joy. That’s how you enjoy, that’s how you enjoy. This is the last point I would start the actualization of the baptism: when it opens out you get connected to this all pervading power of Divine Love. Then you become like a drop in the ocean, and you become very peaceful, you become absolutely peaceful. All the violence, all the jealousies and all the vengeance, everything drops out. That’s only the part of it but also these centres that are within you are responsible for physical, mental and emotional being. So many people who are seekers can get cured. So many people who are mentally handicapped can get cured, like lunatics, schizophrenics G.: she’s saying what about the karmic illness? S.M.: Karma…..now when you become one with that Divine power all your karmas get dissolved, completely finished, there’s no more left karmas. Because you are not that person what you were with karma. With the karmas I want to explain that you get a personality that Is more either bent towards spirituality or towards violence or anything, do clear karmas, temperament but not any sufferings because you know Christ suffered so much, do you think he would have done by karmas? So the theory that because you have done bad karmas so you suffer it’s not correct. This theory was established by Shri Krishna especially karma theory but Krishna was a very clever man and he knew that all human beings have something up in their heads. So in his Gita very trickily he has put: like in the Karma, Karma Yoga he said that whatever work you do you put at the lotus feet of God, the pahlu, means the fruit of it. That’s an impossible situation: because when you do something you know you have done it, so you cannot put the fruit onto some. So he wanted human beings to try this but it doesn’t work. Second thing he’s told about our bhakti, devotion. That you give me fruits, you give me flowers, you give me water, I’ll take but here used very symbolic word: you should do this with Ananya bhakti, when there is no the other means you become one with Me. So whatever worship you do also, it should be after you are connected with the Divine. So this karma theory should be understood properly. Otherwise people go into guilt for nothing at all: with that you catch all this centre here or this centre here and you might get spondylitis or you might get even angina. We have already a hospital in India where many people go from all over the world and for outdoor patients we don’t charge anything and for indoor patient we charge 3 compare…..300 rupees are…. 3 dollars, 3 pounds….about 3 dollars for indoor. But if they take a private room and all that, there is more. Because as it is we don’t give any medicines or anything, just by giving you balance it works out. When you are in imbalance then you get diseases either physical or mental. G.: She wants to have your definition about health and illness first of all and then the role of Nature in curing certain diseases? S.M.: so what does she want to know….. G.: your idea about health and illness S.M.: I told you when you go into imbalances on the mental side or on the physical side then you get illness. If it could be corrected, then you are away. G.: and what is the role of Nature…… S.M.: Nature always try to help you but sometimes we go against the Nature, is very sympathetic, is very calm G.: she says that human beings have forgotten the Nature, actually they go against the Nature. But in Sahaja Yoga we come to know again all the five elements and the Nature itself S.M.: Nature understands us once you are one with the Divine because Divine is looking after the Nature. So whatever are your requirements, Nature gives. We don’t respect the Nature, that’s our problem. Say in India when we get up first we say salute to the Mother Earth because we are going to touch her with our feet to begin with. G.: She says….. S.M.: Who’s coming……who is there? G.: maybe some doctors have come……if somebody doesn’t have the luck to meet Sahaja Yoga what will have? I mean is it possible that the Kundalini can rise by itself? S.M.: no, I’m sorry. No, I mean somebody who is a realized soul, any realized soul may try to raise the Kundalini but so far I’ve not met anyone who is a non Sahaja yogi could raise the Kundalini. But I have travelled in every country, every country I’ve travelled it was all announced and told to people. But they are not so receptive as the Italians are I should say. G.: she’s asking who raised Your Kundalini? S.M.: I was born G.: She’s asking who are You? S.M: that you have to discover…..you see once you know yourself you’ll know Me also….you have to know yourself first…….what she said G.: she said you don’t want answer, you don’t answer S.M.: she’s very innocent…….she has not asked me any question G: she is full of emotion S.M.: this lady could bring woman’s baptism, the land of woman also G.: she says it’s very difficult to combine the life of a family, the family life with the spiritual life? S.M.: not at all, it’s much easier….see now I’m a grandmother, great grandmother, I’ve daughters, they have children, and they have children….now my husband is here sir CP, come along, you tell how sort of family life….. she wants to record G.: she says in family life it would be much easier if all the members are Sahaja Yogis? S.M.: in my family I’m the only one…let’s see Peter Sir C.P.: I stand up to speak? G.: you seat here Sir if you like Sir CP.: She was born what She is but it took some time even for Her to know what She is but was inside Her. Once it happened to Her, She knew but for some time she was a family wife. But in 1970 She decided to enter the world and begin this new movement. From the moment we got married I found how to be a different person, you know, not the normal human being. For example I was and I’m still fond of good food but she would eat anything whether was not so good or so good or whether have some salt in it or didn’t have. She wouldn’t question, she was different. In our family we have two daughters to begin with small but we had number of relations whose children would come to our house to live with us and She would give them the same love as She gave to our own children, no difference. Because for Her all the children of the world are the same including our children, no difference. But I tell you the story which changed me ‘cause I’m a bureaucrat, I’m a diplomat, I’m a trained service servant so I want to understand from my…everything. So one day I had an experience that changed me: I got the job, I got elected as secretary- general of the United Nations Maritime Organization in London so I’m going someday to London and we took up a house. And one day if you are living the two of us in the house, one evening when I returned home from office, I found a young man, quite young man sitting in my rainproof on a sofa and reading a newspaper and I didn’t know how he had come because we had no plan, wearing my clothes. And I thought I was seen something wrong, so I went out and I went to Her I’m seeing something wrong with me and she said no no no. Then She told me he was sick, he was a sick boy with a cancer. She had gone to London Piccadilly Circus, there she saw a young man just lying uncareful, so she went up to him out of compassion, as I told you she has a lot of compassion for everyone and ask him:” What’s the matter? Why are you lying here?”. she didn’t know who he was but he said: ”I’m sorry I have nobody to look after me, I’m very ill”. So She said: ”Alright, come with me in my car, I’ll take you home”. So he came to the house in no clothes, he had to be given a bath and he had to change his clothes so he had to get my clothes, no other clothes with him. I was very happy, I welcomed that because it was a very compassionate act of Hers. And then I saw the influence of Her Divine Love she talks about, her love creating a new person out of that work. He stayed with us for about two or three months but he blossomed into a beautiful, healthy young man. He was suffering from jaundice probably and other diseases (S.M.: Cancer) probably but he got cured. He became a healthy young man and he went back to his parents in Australia. Now can you imagine the happiness of his father and mother that lost his son, he goes back transformed by Her, that changed me also. Saying the nice things many drug people, people who take drugs changing overnight, they give up drugs overnight not because they have to do something, they don’t have anymore the need for drug. Suddenly they are changed by raising the Kundalini inside, the power, they don’t want drugs, they don’t want alcohol, they don’t want immoralism. S.M.: they don’t smoke Sir C.P.: they don’t smoke. Why? Because she doesn’t say “Don’t smoke!”, she doesn’t say “Don’t smoke!”. They themselves don’t need drugs, don’t need smoke, don’t need alcohol, that is the kind of transformation which takes place. The most important need as I see of the world to come, on the Shri Mataji’s world (?), is good human beings, people who will all want to live together regardless of religion, regardless of race, regardless of country, one man one earth one environment. We have to create a new human being and She is creating those new human beings like Mr. Guido. G.: how much can the faith help us in this process and how much the doubt can be an obstacle for our growth S.M.: Faith in what? G.: the faith in Sahaja Yoga…..how much it can be a more help and how much the skepticism can be an obstacle for our growth? S.M.: You see, once you get the experience, what I’m saying, once you get the experience, the actualization, then if you are honest you can be now, if you are dishonest it’s alright. In that experience you can feel on your fingertips this All Pervading Power of Love. And then there are these five six and seven centers on the left side and five six and seven centres on the right side. Now on your fingertips you can feel your own centres and then you know what’s wrong with you. That means the Self knowledge. Another thing is if you want to know what is right and what is wrong. Supposing some man is there and says: ”I’m very spiritual” and doubt, you put both your hands towards that person and you will feel on your fingers heat, very tingling sometimes I get blister also for a while or sometimes nothing and sometimes also vibrations. Also if you want to decide whether this is right or wrong you put your hands like this and if it is right you’ll get vibrations ,if it is wrong nothing. So you see it is giving you absolute, absolute truth, absolute knowledge. G.: when we start thinking about then we create an obstruction? S.M.: alright, maybe but you see you have to go beyond thought as Einstein said that you have to go to torsion area, beyond thought. G.: how much the fear can damage us? S.M.: Fear can damaged a lot but it can be cured completely…..it comes by the centre heart, so once it is settled in, once it is properly nourished then you don’t have any fear G.: How do you nourish the centre? S.M: you see, there are so many ways in Sahaja Yoga by which you can nourish your centre, you see and can get corrected by a Sahaja Yogi, he can do it or you come before the photograph also can work it out because the photograph has got vibrations. G.: she’s asking whether you are considering yourself a Sahaja Yogi? (to Mr. C.P.) Sir CP.: I’m an apprentice Sahaja Yogi not as good as he is. I’m trying to be. I want to say something: you have to have faith in yourself (S.M.: and also time). If you believe there is an All Pervading Power, if there is an All Pervading Power and you believe in yourself then She puts you in touch with that. And once you are in touch with that Power you are part of the Power. And then one changes S.M.: and we get the help of course. I think their responsibility is very great, they should realize it Sir C.P.: for the guru of the all world G.: she says it’s very difficult to communicate through words S.M.: you should write it down you should get the experience, write it down clearly that we have the experience. You should have courage to say that, you’ll clear away nobler(?). G.: do you think this is the only way to meet you up or there are other way? S.M: As far as I know this is the only way, this is all created by God Himself. I’ll tell you a simple thing: this is connected with the mains, if it is not, it won’t give the light. G.: she says Love is not enough? S.M.: Love? No your love has to be Divine Love….that doesn’t expect anything, it just flows and it works G.: and she says this is enough without raising the Kundalini? S.M.: no you can’t because your love will be limited, you might be loving your husband maybe your children maybe…… limited but here you become like an ocean G.: she is trying to understand because she saw in Bhagavad Gita that sometimes this selfless love is enough to give this connection to God? S.M.: that same thing Krishna’s tricks, it is Krishna’s tricks you see because he knew that human beings are not easy to understand, so he has said all these things but is a trick. In the beginning only he has said about Stitha Pragnya, this is a realized soul or a Sahaja Yogi, he described and after that he doesn’t say how. So he calls it as Gyana yoga, the yoga of knowledge…….so he says that you should get absolute knowledge and when you get the absolute knowledge what happens to you he describes. But he doesn’t say about kundalini. It was 6000 years back, so you see if human being were not at that era aware, he didn’t say anything. Also In 1902 (XII century) Gyana Devaki was the first man ,who wrote about it, taking the permission of his guru, he wrote a commentary on Gita and in the sixth chapter he described that with the Kundalini awakening you can become Stitha Pragnya or a realized soul. In those days the system was that one guru used to give to one disciple. This was the Param-param, means tradition, one person. Then Gyana Deva took permission just to write it. But in the XVI century there were many of them: Guru Nanaka was there, Kabir , all these, and also in Maharastra so saints came in and they talked about Kundalini. Sir C.P.: even about bhakti, he said complete bhakti, complete union which means the same thing She is saying how to bring at about, complete union is bhakti , total merging that is possible…… S.M.: because supposing you do bhakti you are not connected, how God is going to be save you? Sir C.P.: this is the process: kundalini helps you to become one with God, this is a process. S.M.: and without that connection if you do bhakti is fruitless….this is the reason why all religions have failed. ‘cause they became very power oriented, money oriented but never spiritually oriented. That’s why they are fighting among themselves widely G.: there is a reason why God didn’t reveal before all this ? S.M.: you have to mature and these are special times of Last Judgement. G.: if you can tell something about this period where we are living S.M.: it’s very precious G.: she says it’s a period of changing S.M.: of course, this the period of truth also of great turmoil and of transformation, we should say this the blossom time, means many flowers are going to become fruits. G.: she says you are travelling so much: there is a particular receptivity now for Sahaja Yoga and in which countries? S.M: in which country? I can’t say I would say in Europe, Italy and Austria because Italians have open heart. Same with Austrians because they are farmers and they are down to earth. Especially Russians, multi, multi there. The reason is they were so much oppressed by communism that they went inside very deep, they are very deep, very very deep. And they have taken to Sahaja Yoga just like a fish takes to water. Thousands and thousands, very sensitive, very sensitive, absolutely I mean remarkable. Of course in India everybody knows that you have to get your Self Realization. Now I should say in India we have many more people, but Russia has also….. G.: but you are feeling that at this particular time there is more….people are more open everywhere S.M: of course, of course, thanks to (?) also……horrifying news coming everytime, so many earthquakes, accidents G.: she saying, she’s mentioning Kali Yuga S.M: She read a lot I think, it is, the worst kali yuga, kali yuga is that time, this is the worst time of kali yuga. The kali is the one who when it rains he pulls people into delusion (Sapram), confusion and in that confusion many get lost. Once Kali was called by Nala who were separated him from Damayanti, his wife. So Nala said “I’m going to kill you now” and cut hold(?) of him. So he said, Kali said:”Alright. Listen to my importance and then you can kill me”. So he says that when I will rain, then many people will going into delusion and into mental problems but there will be many who will get their self realization specially those who are searching God and divinity on the dales and dales becoming sanyasis. He said “they will be householders not sanyasi, they will be householders and they will get their realization in my kali yuga. And because of delusion they will seek and seek the truth. There were never so many seekers before, there’s the blessing of kali yuga in a way. G.: if the doctors have some questions they can stay also S.M.: this doctor is a Sahaja Yogi and this doctor can ask me, that I know G.: if you can briefly explain the relationship between Sahaja Yoga and medicine? S.M.: Medicine? Wow. It’s a long subject….I’ll tell you, listen, all physical ailments come to us through imbalances. As you know we have autonomous nervous system, and we have left and right side of sympathethic and central one’s parasympathetic. Supposing you want to increase the beat of your heart in run you can increase, it’s sympathetic but would you stay sit and bring to the normal, it’s parasympathetic. But doctors know very little about parasympathetic and they cannot control it also. Now like this we have left and right vertebrae joint together to form centre in between. So whenever you exhaust the energy of the centre, you catch it. For example if you are very right-sided, you think for the future, all this thinking about money and progress and all kind, you become right-sided. So this overactivity can give you many diseases. he say give me at(?) a doctor who started working too hard also in the afternoon he used to work and this and that, not took any meditative district. So he got paraplegia, his right leg and right arm became absolutely I should say soon….paralysed. he couldn’t walk but I have told him that now he has some age so he should rest in the day time but he didn’t listen to me and continuously was working. And without telling me he was travelling all over. So then I told him what it is Sahaja Yoga treatment that put your right foot in the water and right hand towards the photograph. And also your put left hand up like that, so the vibrations will come from here and soothe this right side. so also he has bad liver on the right side so here other complications can develop so I told him take liver treatment as in sahaja yoga, there’s a liver diet which you have to take. If you take the liver diet then the right side reduces means you take more vegetables and cooling things. If this heat treat this side, you get paralysis on the right side. So you have to put ice on liver and ice here and for liver sugar is very important, that is medicine. That’s how now he’s alright and he’s walking about. That is how you can even cure paralysis on the right side. Now for example think of cancer which is a very big problem. Cancer can be cured with Sahaja Yoga: we have cured all kinds of cancer. But doctors don’t believe and I tell them that our left side is all our past, but past from the….since all the creation was created. Cancer can come on any one of the centres, cannot say where it truly come but more that you use centre, it works. Say for example sore (throat) cancer, if you shout, if you use your throat too much you catch here. So what happens like this in the centre here like this do vertebrae with it, at the vishuddhi, now suddenly you are shouting, you are doing everything like that you see the energy get lost on the right side. And something suddenly happens to use some sort of a shock, maybe some sort of movement to the left side, emotional side, it breaks. When it breaks, what happens this become solid(?) soon. It grows on its own, means malignancy. Same thing happen with the nabhi, with the stomach, nabhi, where these chakras are, they are working too hard with your nabhi, running after money, thinking about this, the liver goes out of work and maybe suddenly something can happen in your family or anyway in the emotional and it breaks. But now the main problem is liver. First you eat food which is not good for the liver, Italians also. Now this liver has a function to eliminate all the poison away in the blood, it is heat, heat of the body. But when liver goes out of order this heat starts rising up and there is a chakra on the right side here, we call it right heart, so the heat goes there and the person suffers from asthma. And also there is this left movement is there plus this heat. Now there is some young boy, say 25 or less than that, he’s playing tennis and drinks and his liver is out. At that young age he gets a massive attack, massive which is mostly fatal. So now this heat can go to the heart and it can also pass to the left side and you can get diabetes. If it moves downward on the spleen it acts and one can get blood cancer. Alright? Blood cancer, you call it blood cancer? Alright, then leukemia, then if it passes onto intestines you can get intestinal troubles of all kinds: misery, constipation, biles. So with one liver so many problems are there. According to Sahaja Yoga the second centre of Swadishthana works for creating energy also for the brain, for the cells of the energy, for the grey cells, we never think or we think so much and how the energy comes. So firstly when all the organs are affected maybe that this job of sending energy to the brain cells might not work, when the liver is out. And all that she can accumulate on the left hand side because they cross like that. So you can get the paralysis of the right hand side. With this doctor Seth it happened but it has not reached that serious state of paralysis but paralysed, they call paraplegia. So what you have to use is ice here, ice here and you have to take a kind of a food that will not give you heat, you can take to vegetarian food, not for everyone but only for people who have liver. So by one centre being put into trouble how many diseases come, with one centre. But if you cool down, cool down your liver it immediately helps. I’m sorry to say that in allopathy there is no medicine to cool down the liver but in ayurveda there is and with that there are many medicines. I’m also going to start some ayurveda medicines because I know so many…… G.: what is your idea, your opinion about meat? S.M.: meat, they can eat in case they have no liver trouble, they should eat meat, there’s no problem. But if you have liver, and avoid fish. Fish has potassium, it’s a dangerous thing. What a sort of…….I’ll have some water, thank you. Anyone afraid can ask me a question? G.: she wanted to know something about you, about your staying in Gandhi’s Ashram S.M.: yes, you know we were 11 brothers and sisters and my father, he took us to Gandhaji, so he said “ I've got”, he said “you’ve got a complete team with you”, he said “you can take anyone you like”. He just pick me up, I was only seven years. And because of my cheek bones very high he used to call me “Nepali”, he was very very kind to me and also with children, very kind. He was also a realized soul but very strict with others. He used to give full whiz(?) except for me nobody could tell relish in the ashram. The food was hard boiled and Indians don’t like that kind you know but I used to eat. We used to get up at 4 o’clock in the morning, take our baths and go for the prayers. And there were snakes on the way and sometimes in the pair they would come in front of human just moving like that. But we could not complain to him. But with others he was very very strict because he said: ”we have to have our freedom, for that we need discipline”. And he used to say: ”I’m very disciplined” so I said: “I’m like that” but everybody can’t be like that. But he was also very meticulous, very meticulous. He had seven stones for going to the bathroom because we have bathroom outside so we walk on the mud, he had put seven stones. And then one day they put one more and he used to count while going count, while back. And then increase one, so he got very angry,” why did you increase, seven are alright because of seven chakras”. Like that he was a very very intelligent man and extremely honest, extremely honest. I remember so many octigens(?) : once there was, the meeting was there and that time it took some time so he said to all “alright, we have lunch here”. and his wife had gone out and she had given the key of the store, so he went and opened the store. And according to the number of people 1600 charka we call it of a sieve was that much is to be taken out, to measure for all of them. So people said so “ Sir we didn’t know you’ll have to do so much work we could never have lunch here”. So he said “what? This is the blood of my country”. He was extremely kind to Me I should say. For his bhajanaudi(?) to see the right potential, he asked me according to chakras you tell me what first, then second, then third and that’s what yet. And he made them all vegetarians so I said “why do you force them like this?” he said “they are all liver patients”. Another thing was that whenever he was unhappy or angry or anything he would not take anything to eat, that was the best way, very childish, so I had……they would ask me to take the glass of orange juice for him, from me he would take. So according about Sahaja Yoga he said that it has to be done but after the independence. Because just now we are a slave country. So you just wait. At that time i was very young also. What sort memories of Mahatma Gandhi……what she said? G.: How he accepted you? S.M.: he was a realized soul, that’s it G.: she says when, how did you realize your inner power? S.M.: I was born like that…….how do we realize we are human beings? G.: how did you realize you were different from other people? S.M.: because, you see, if you are a human being you know you are not animals, but I never show I was different but on the whole I was a peaceful person and forebearing way, forebearing apart for others, very compassionate comparing to them and extremely generous. And I has to be for the poor, so this is they thought I was different. I never used to get angry, never used to shout or anything. g.: you were not worried about this diversity? S.M.: I don’t know what is worry Sir C.P.: I’m so worried about that…..she would never worry about anything, give it to me S.M.: I have no fear, no worry Sir C.P.: so she was so different, that’s how you know someone different. I told you about our house, in my office, everywhere so was different from the rest, that’s how people get to recognize it. She is someone different from others. She can not count money, i’m not an expert myself anyway, she is much worse than me, she can’t count the money, she doesn’t know banking S.M.: I don’t know how to write a cheque. Banking for me would be really lost Sir C.P: I’m not a very expert but still I can manage. But I want to say something you do ask why this time is so different. If you see kali yuga, if you see the world today, atomic powers in many countries, atomic S.M.: so many Sir C.P. : we have environment S.M.: all kinds of problems Sir C.P. be spoiled everywhere, all over, we have extra beating in the world, the world moving towards disaster. Unless human being reckon now and better you can better human being, start living better, start consuming less of this earth, the world will go to a disaster. So as Krishna said “When time comes I will appear from time to time”. She has appeared now at the right time to tell people still time for you to think change yourself, become better human beings, come together S.M.: and love, love each and everyone, without any expectations Sir C.P. people are quarrelling, hindu, muslims, Christian, they are all children of one God. Why fight? What for? People are fighting in the name of one God. After the magnes(?) she says there one divine power they are all children of the same God, please come together. That’s the her message J.: do you think it’s possible all this? Sir C.P: it’s happening, it’s happening, you see here, you see the Sahaja Yogis of the world you will find they are really different people from the rest. To me S.M: yes they are Sir C.P.: I call them angels, because human beings have been transformed, living in a very different way. S.M. they are the best people, sahaja yogi, the way they love each other, they care for each other, all over the world Sir C.P. it’s one human family now. If you go from here to America or Australia, they meet each other and they are all brothers and sisters. It’s not unnatural, it’s natural, it’s true, genuine. And look at his face, it’s a different face, you know S.M.: he is one of the first Sahaja Yogis Sir C.P.: I find they are very different, I’m not yet there, that’s why I said I’m an apprentice, I’m trying. But they are truly good transformed people and they are the future of mankind. I firstly think the most marvellous work not because she is my wife because I think the world needs a person to transform it and the time is now: if people take up really and they learn to live together, the world can change. if it doesn't change. (S.M. I'm already 77, how long I have to be at work) could you believe it? what do you see her age? she is 77. does she look 77? S.M. but how long I don't know I have to work now...... Sir C.P. many many work G.: how can your skin is so beautiful? Sir C.P.: Sahaj, approaching the source of Sahaja Yoga. (S.M.: skin?) and I'm 80 and I'm still alive S.M: always you will have good skins if you take to Sahaj, yea it's true, isn't it? Voce esterna: we have to go to program S.M.: any other questions? the doctors do you have any question? G.: if you can say something about acupuncture? S.M.: acupuncture is this way that they put your problem on one centre so they take the energy of the other centre and you develop the other problem. so acupuncture was done before by Zen system of people and they were all realized souls so there was no sort question of imbalance, unless and until you are realized you should do that. So you will wide develop some other problem. So best thing is to get the mounting (?) through kundalini so you don't develop any problems like that. All these letters I tell you even they have Hatha Yoga , they have other yoga and all that is so artificial because they don't know where is the problem. Unless and until you are realized you won't know. It's very dangerous for anyone to do all the asanas, very dangerous. We took and recommend some, one or two asanas to someone who is ..... in very bad shape but normally is not necessary. This is the problem is that so many books have been written, I've seen people have written books also against Kundalini. So all these methods without realization are very dangerous. The Zen system I believe in that, but you are not Zens you see, you are more than Zens. Because they have to use some rituals to make you thoughtless. Like they'll have a big piece covered with stones, with all the lines and some stones here and some stones there. Now you have to sit there and watch there. the idea was that you should not react, you should not say anything just watch, because somebody can said these are like shapes, can say something, nothing to be said, just watch. but it didn't work. and to the realized soul this has to call "kalchapa" and the head of the Zen system came and he got six or they call me. So I told him "you are not a realized soul how could you head of the Zen?". He said "I'm not the kalchapa". and till the 6th century we had kalchapas, after that we had nothing. the Sufis were realized souls, Sufis were realized souls. and we have had many saints who were realized souls. you can make out on your fingertips if somebody is a saint or not. Now they say Christ was the son of God: was he or not, ask Him. He was. call and feel, just feel it, you put together, your feet, you should take out the shoes, just put your hands, just put your hands. Be comfortable, now see like this little low. now see if you are getting any cool breeze or hot breeze. please Don't close your eyes. Got it, are you feeling? now put your hand here, there might be hot coming out of you, maybe, I don't know. let's try on top, on top, here. now there is, cool or hot? G.: hot S.M.: oh dear, let the heat go out, yes. alright now you put another hand like this and see with your left hand, put your right hand like this, it's alright, it's alright, you have got already. now see, now better? keep your eyes open. now cooler? see hot, alright I'll do balance again. are you alright? now better, no here in the fontanel bone area which was so cool, there G.: she feels hot S.M: the other way round, the other way round, she has felt it? are you feeling? G.: what is the meaning of the heat? one.... S.M.: Heat means that you are right-sided, you think too much, to work very hard, all this that, heat has to go out, alright, has to cool, that's the sign, futuristic, she is alright now, better. This gentleman has got. Walter you see this gentleman has got, your neighbour. from the very beginning she was very receptive, she's got. what about you madam? not yet. feel hot. don't think, don't think G.: she is thinking too much S.M.: don't think too much, futuristic, plan the future, it's alright...now? cooler? you see him, she cools down. got it, yes. to see it, what about you? you got it? what about the doctors? he's alright? there was one doctor here, he's gone out? right side, put him left to the right, put left high, put right down. she has the same problem, she has the same problem, put left to the right. now raise, raise, entangled. done. there is cool. you are alright, you all are alright. you are alright also, little heat will go, alright. where has the other doctor gone? S.Y.: he has to go Mother, he has the small children. S.M: thank you Sir C.P: Thank you S.M.: now you have to write about this, the fact, the truth, alright? so others can.....that is the best use of Vidya, we have to save also the young people. I'm trying to have a ............. for drug addiction if the government gives the permission, we are trying for drug addiction. that is another courses. I got the place but your government has to give me permission. I beg pardon? yes. I hope they will. because we won't charge them much, just for their food and stay, because they must be corrected now once this drug is a horrible thing, thank you very much.

9/24/1999

http://amruta.org/?p=10007

Evening Program: Don’t criticise others, Eve of Shri Ganesha Puja

Italy

Cabella Ligure

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Evening program before Shri Ganesha Puja, first part, Cabella Ligure Italy, September, 24, 1999 [After performance, on video at 2:51:29] It was really very interesting to go through various programmes coming from different countries. I Myself was overwhelmed that Sahaja Yoga is spreading to all these countries where they have created such good artists and such good program. We didn’t even feel how the time passed. Lastly, the critic – of course I always say, “Don’t criticize others”. But specially the art, when people start criticizing, the art is dying out. [Cut in the video] ... And is now only the critics are criticizing is a fact. If not, the art that will come up will be so hideous and heinous that we’d can never enjoy that art, because it will be only for money – cheap type, which can be sold in the market. And this kind of intellectual analysis of everything is responsible also to the decline of pure art. We are doing it all the time. We all think we are very intelligent and we can criticize, all the time correcting these artists – is a common thing. It’s not only artists, but in every field of life we have become very much arrogant, and we think we know everything and we can criticize others. By which we stop their progress completely. Not only that, but we also stop our progress, because whatever you do with your mind, is not in any way global, in any way spiritual. So this mind has to be left alone and you have to go beyond the mind. So many of these artists have done work through their torsion area, I can see that. Because they are so much spiritually developed that they can do this kind of a work. But when we start criticizing them, because people are not at all anywhere near torsion area and they don’t understand the beauty of torsion area, they start criticizing - by that they are bringing down the level of high-class art. Artists are, of course, very much strangled, but also other areas where we are, we think it from the point of view of only money. And ultimately you find that even that point or that aim fails. Because after all, even money, which is the Lakshmi principle, has to have the art. If you don’t have the art of money, you are absolutely a useless fellow! I hear of so many people, today they are earning so much and tomorrow they are, just become bankrupt. How is it happening? What is the problem is that we don’t understand the art of money also. Everything is an art in a way, life also is an art – that is you have to make everything look very beautiful, very sensible, balanced and energy-giving. Here now, I saw some very nice paintings, behind, of Shri Ganesha, done so perfectly well, in every angle, in every way. And it is so joy-giving to see such a nice painting. Instead of taking the joy out of that, people start putting it into words. In the words they get lost and we can never see the beauty and the poetry behind that painting. Same about poetry, same about literature, same about all those things which are poured out of your heart. As I said, even the money: if it has no heart behind it, it’s a horrible stuff. And you just can’t bear to see such money, it’s so gross, it’s so ugly, you can’t bear it! So, in everything that you do, there has to be your heart. Without the heart, whatever is done has no meaning. You just, through your mental capacity, go on criticizing everyone, go on saying things about everyone. But how much do you enjoy, how much do you get that inside you, is only possible through your heart which must be open, which must be great, and which must be enjoying. So, for all of us Sahaja Yogis, it’s quite an eye-opener when we see this. Because I have seen, even in Sahaja Yoga, people are very critical of each other, sometimes. Saying that, “You should not have done this, you should not have done that”. It’s not your lookout. You do it properly and others will also do it. There’s no ritualism in Sahaja Yoga. One thing one should know, there is no blind ritualism. But all rituals that so-called are there are from the heart. If your heart is open, you will do all the rituals in a very sweet manner and the – I would say, result-oriented. Otherwise, whatever you do with such a mental tension, and thinking what are you doing wrong or right, you can never achieve any ascent with that. I’m very, very happy, very much satisfied, and - I don’t know what to say - enamoured to see so many people, from so many countries, are Sahaja Yogis. And such good artists and such beautiful people. I didn’t know Sahaja Yoga would be everywhere so fragrant, but to see all this you don’t know how joyous I felt. I mean, compared to My – I should say – efforts, it is too much, really, it is too much. And like a little seed becomes beautiful flowers, I see all of you coming up here, and showing this talent – not only the talent, but the talent of Sahaja [Yoga]. May God bless you all. With all My heart, I bless you.

Evening program before Shri Ganesha Puja, first part, Cabella Ligure Italy, September, 24, 1999 [After performance, on video at 2:51:29] It was really very interesting to go through various programmes coming from different countries. I Myself was overwhelmed that Sahaja Yoga is spreading to all these countries where they have created such good artists and such good program. We didn’t even feel how the time passed. Lastly, the critic – of course I always say, “Don’t criticize others”. But specially the art, when people start criticizing, the art is dying out. [Cut in the video] ... And is now only the critics are criticizing is a fact. If not, the art that will come up will be so hideous and heinous that we’d can never enjoy that art, because it will be only for money – cheap type, which can be sold in the market. And this kind of intellectual analysis of everything is responsible also to the decline of pure art. We are doing it all the time. We all think we are very intelligent and we can criticize, all the time correcting these artists – is a common thing. It’s not only artists, but in every field of life we have become very much arrogant, and we think we know everything and we can criticize others. By which we stop their progress completely. Not only that, but we also stop our progress, because whatever you do with your mind, is not in any way global, in any way spiritual. So this mind has to be left alone and you have to go beyond the mind. So many of these artists have done work through their torsion area, I can see that. Because they are so much spiritually developed that they can do this kind of a work. But when we start criticizing them, because people are not at all anywhere near torsion area and they don’t understand the beauty of torsion area, they start criticizing - by that they are bringing down the level of high-class art. Artists are, of course, very much strangled, but also other areas where we are, we think it from the point of view of only money. And ultimately you find that even that point or that aim fails. Because after all, even money, which is the Lakshmi principle, has to have the art. If you don’t have the art of money, you are absolutely a useless fellow! I hear of so many people, today they are earning so much and tomorrow they are, just become bankrupt. How is it happening? What is the problem is that we don’t understand the art of money also. Everything is an art in a way, life also is an art – that is you have to make everything look very beautiful, very sensible, balanced and energy-giving. Here now, I saw some very nice paintings, behind, of Shri Ganesha, done so perfectly well, in every angle, in every way. And it is so joy-giving to see such a nice painting. Instead of taking the joy out of that, people start putting it into words. In the words they get lost and we can never see the beauty and the poetry behind that painting. Same about poetry, same about literature, same about all those things which are poured out of your heart. As I said, even the money: if it has no heart behind it, it’s a horrible stuff. And you just can’t bear to see such money, it’s so gross, it’s so ugly, you can’t bear it! So, in everything that you do, there has to be your heart. Without the heart, whatever is done has no meaning. You just, through your mental capacity, go on criticizing everyone, go on saying things about everyone. But how much do you enjoy, how much do you get that inside you, is only possible through your heart which must be open, which must be great, and which must be enjoying. So, for all of us Sahaja Yogis, it’s quite an eye-opener when we see this. Because I have seen, even in Sahaja Yoga, people are very critical of each other, sometimes. Saying that, “You should not have done this, you should not have done that”. It’s not your lookout. You do it properly and others will also do it. There’s no ritualism in Sahaja Yoga. One thing one should know, there is no blind ritualism. But all rituals that so-called are there are from the heart. If your heart is open, you will do all the rituals in a very sweet manner and the – I would say, result-oriented. Otherwise, whatever you do with such a mental tension, and thinking what are you doing wrong or right, you can never achieve any ascent with that. I’m very, very happy, very much satisfied, and - I don’t know what to say - enamoured to see so many people, from so many countries, are Sahaja Yogis. And such good artists and such beautiful people. I didn’t know Sahaja Yoga would be everywhere so fragrant, but to see all this you don’t know how joyous I felt. I mean, compared to My – I should say – efforts, it is too much, really, it is too much. And like a little seed becomes beautiful flowers, I see all of you coming up here, and showing this talent – not only the talent, but the talent of Sahaja [Yoga]. May God bless you all. With all My heart, I bless you.

9/25/1999

http://amruta.org/?p=1701

Shri Ganesha Puja: We must respect Mother Earth

Italy

Cabella Ligure

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