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Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 34.16 2.24 My<space>mother's<space>name<space>is<space>Alice.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 36.48 4.24 And<space>when<space>she<space>had<space>dementia,<space>she<space>came<space>and<space>lived<space>with<space>us.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 41.36 7.92 She<space>had<space>gotten<space>kicked<space>out<space>of<space>her<space>apartment<space>and<space>she<space>was<space>still<space>too<space>well<space>to<space>go<space>live<space>in<space>a<space>lockdown<space>unit.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 49.36 8.88 And<space>I<space>wasn't<space>especially<space>close<space>to<space>her,<space>and<space>yet<space>I<space>could<space>not<space>imagine<space>her<space>any<space>place<space>other<space>than<space>here.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 58.24 14.64 And<space>so<space>she<space>moved<space>up<space>here,<space>and<space>it<space>ended<space>up<space>being<space>this<space>incredible<space>time<space>of<space>us<space>being<space>able<space>to<space>kind<space>of<space>heal<space>and<space>laugh<space>and<space>enjoy<space>a<space>relationship<space>that<space>we<space>hadn't<space>had<space>before.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 72.96 7.20 So<space>the<space>"Aliceheimer's"<space>is<space>how<space>I<space>started<space>thinking<space>of<space>it,<space>instead<space>of<space>Alzheimer's<space>that'd<space>just<space>be<space>the<space>sadness<space>of<space>the<space>loss.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 80.32 4.88 I<space>watched<space>her<space>use<space>the<space>loss<space>as<space>a<space>way<space>to<space>kind<space>of<space>gain<space>other<space>things.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 85.20 10.16 So<space>she<space>kind<space>of<space>was<space>able<space>to<space>do<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>things<space>that<space>she<space>couldn't<space>do<space>when<space>all<space>of<space>her<space>kind<space>of<space>social<space>conscience<space>was<space>getting<space>in<space>her<space>way.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 95.44 7.68 So<space>she,<space>in<space>some<space>ways,<space>was<space>more<space>herself<space>and<space>that<space>was<space>something<space>that<space>we<space>could<space>together<space>really<space>run<space>with<space>and<space>have<space>a<space>good<space>time.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 103.12 4.48 And<space>so<space>we<space>handled<space>lots<space>of<space>aspects<space>of<space>dementia<space>differently<space>from<space>most<space>people.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 107.68 3.44 So<space>I<space>started<space>drawing<space>about<space>it,<space>and<space>then<space>writing<space>about<space>it.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 111.20 2.64 And<space>now<space>those<space>two<space>things<space>are<space>really<space>integrated.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 113.84 3.12 The<space>original<space>drawings<space>of<space>course,<space>had<space>the<space>little<space>writing<space>on<space>them<space>too.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 117.28 5.44 When<space>my<space>mother<space>lived<space>with<space>us,<space>I<space>discovered<space>graphic<space>narratives.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 122.96 1.92 I<space>just<space>fell<space>in<space>love<space>with<space>the<space>medium.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 124.88 6.00 And<space>I<space>was<space>using<space>that<space>time<space>to<space>kind<space>of<space>push<space>my<space>creative<space>writing<space>forward.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 131.04 8.16 So,<space>and<space>I<space>was<space>bringing<space>all<space>sorts<space>of<space>graphic<space>narratives<space>into<space>the<space>house,<space>and<space>every<space>last<space>one<space>of<space>them,<space>my<space>mother<space>just<space>loved<space>reading.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 139.44 9.44 And<space>so<space>I,<space>because<space>she<space>loved<space>the<space>medium<space>so<space>much,<space>I<space>knew<space>that<space>when<space>I<space>wanted<space>to<space>tell<space>our<space>story,<space>that<space>that<space>was<space>the<space>right<space>way<space>to<space>go.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 148.96 2.48 I<space>was<space>messing<space>around<space>with<space>comics.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 151.44 11.52 I<space>was<space>sometimes<space>trying<space>to<space>do<space>it<space>just<space>completely<space>digitally<space>drawing<space>on<space>a<space>tablet<space>PC.<space>But<space>I'm<space>a<space>little<space>too<space>old-fashioned<space>for<space>that,<space>and<space>I<space>didn't<space>really<space>find<space>the<space>voice<space>until<space>I<space>got<space>back<space>to<space>paper.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 163.12 7.60 And<space>I<space>found<space>the<space>voice<space>for<space>the<space>work<space>the<space>day<space>I<space>cut<space>up<space>a<space>cheap<space>paperback<space>copy<space>of<space>Lewis<space>Carroll's<space>"Alice<space>in<space>Wonderland"<space>to<space>make<space>Alice's<space>bathrobe.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 170.88 3.12 And<space>I<space>had<space>already<space>been<space>doing<space>a<space>lot<space>of<space>collage<space>work.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 174.32 2.56 Throughout<space>my<space>life,<space>I've<space>done<space>collage<space>work.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 177.04 8.56 And<space>the<space>minute<space>I<space>did<space>that,<space>I<space>realized,<space>"I<space>know<space>what<space>the<space>story,<space>how<space>to<space>tell<space>this<space>story".
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 185.92 2.56 I<space>sat<space>down,<space>I<space>did<space>my<space>sketchbook.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 188.96 7.04 December<space>1st<space>through<space>December<space>23rd,<space>I<space>just<space>pored<space>through<space>it<space>kind<space>of<space>in<space>one<space>of<space>those<space>white<space>heat<space>frenzies.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 196.16 6.24 And<space>because<space>I<space>was<space>a<space>storyteller<space>as<space>well<space>as<space>a<space>visual<space>artist,<space>my<space>sketchbook<space>really<space>told<space>a<space>story.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 202.56 7.28 I'd<space>started<space>on<space>page<space>eight,<space>'cause<space>I<space>knew<space>like<space>I<space>had<space>found<space>the<space>voice<space>there<space>with<space>the<space>bathrobe<space>and<space>the<space>halos<space>and<space>so<space>on<space>and<space>so<space>forth.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 209.92 6.56 And<space>then<space>I<space>went<space>back<space>to<space>page<space>one,<space>started<space>telling<space>it,<space>and<space>then<space>kind<space>of<space>knew<space>how<space>it<space>was<space>gonna<space>go<space>till<space>the<space>end.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 216.72 7.76 Then<space>people,<space>all<space>of<space>those<space>were<space>posted<space>digitally<space>through<space>the<space>Brooklyn<space>Art<space>Library,<space>and<space>people<space>started<space>commenting.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 224.48 8.48 And<space>then<space>people<space>who<space>I<space>shared<space>the<space>link<space>with<space>who<space>were<space>part<space>of<space>the<space>project<space>said,<space>"We<space>want<space>to<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>comment<space>on<space>this<space>and<space>we<space>can't<space>make<space>comments<space>there.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 233.12 1.44 You<space>should<space>start<space>a<space>blog".
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 234.56 10.88 So<space>I<space>put<space>them<space>all<space>up<space>on<space>a<space>blog,<space>and<space>then<space>I<space>realized<space>that<space>blogs<space>work<space>better,<space>instead<space>of<space>having<space>26<space>drawings<space>on<space>one<space>post,<space>to<space>make<space>them<space>come<space>out<space>one<space>by<space>one.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 245.60 15.84 So<space>in<space>January<space>of<space>2011,<space>I<space>began<space>using<space>each<space>drawing<space>to<space>then<space>inspire<space>a<space>vignette,<space>a<space>piece<space>of<space>a<space>story<space>about<space>our<space>lives<space>and<space>interactions.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 261.60 16.08 And<space>then<space>from<space>there,<space>because<space>of<space>course<space>I'd<space>given<space>away<space>the<space>originals<space>to<space>the<space>Brooklyn<space>Art<space>Library,<space>I<space>started<space>playing<space>around<space>with<space>printing<space>them<space>up,<space>I<space>had<space>digital<space>copies<space>of<space>everything,<space>but<space>printing<space>them<space>up<space>and<space>printing<space>some<space>of<space>them<space>up<space>really<space>large.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 278.24 5.28 My<space>oldest<space>son,<space>when<space>he<space>first<space>saw<space>them,<space>said,<space>"Mom,<space>I<space>want<space>to<space>see<space>these<space>gigantic".
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 283.68 13.68 And<space>so<space>I<space>made<space>some,<space>so<space>that<space>Alice<space>was<space>life-size,<space>I<space>made<space>some<space>smaller<space>sizes,<space>and<space>then<space>I<space>started<space>sewing<space>back<space>into<space>them,<space>first<space>on<space>canvas,<space>but<space>then<space>I<space>switched<space>over<space>to<space>sewing<space>into<space>paper.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 297.44 8.48 And<space>while<space>I<space>was<space>using<space>thick<space>materials,<space>I'd<space>print<space>on<space>a<space>thick<space>material,<space>it<space>gets<space>hard<space>to<space>shove<space>a<space>needle<space>through<space>a<space>material.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 305.92 1.44 And<space>so<space>I<space>kept<space>on.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 307.60 3.28 So<space>I<space>got<space>myself<space>an<space>awl<space>to<space>poke<space>holes<space>in<space>it.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 310.96 4.48 And<space>then<space>I<space>realized<space>that,<space>oh<space>my<space>gosh,<space>my<space>grandfather<space>was<space>a<space>shoemaker.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 315.44 3.20 He<space>probably<space>worked<space>with<space>an<space>awl<space>all<space>the<space>time.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 318.72 9.60 And<space>so<space>it<space>was<space>sort<space>of<space>all<space>these<space>different<space>layers<space>kind<space>of<space>came<space>about<space>through<space>the<space>act<space>of<space>making<space>the<space>drawings,<space>and<space>then<space>revisiting<space>them<space>and<space>retelling<space>them.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 328.56 8.32 I<space>think<space>when<space>you're<space>a<space>medical<space>anthropologist,<space>you<space>understand<space>medical<space>systems<space>as<space>cultural<space>systems<space>that<space>are<space>beliefs<space>and<space>practices.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 336.96 4.56 And<space>the<space>medical<space>medicine<space>in<space>the<space>United<space>States<space>is<space>about<space>science.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 341.60 4.72 It's<space>about<space>doctors<space>who<space>know<space>the<space>science<space>of<space>our<space>bodies<space>and<space>how<space>to<space>fix<space>it.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 346.48 9.44 And<space>so<space>it's<space>really<space>great<space>with<space>the<space>kinds<space>of<space>things<space>that<space>doctors<space>have<space>already<space>figured<space>out<space>how<space>to<space>fix,<space>but<space>in<space>something<space>like<space>Alzheimer's,<space>it's<space>still<space>uncurable.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 356.00 5.84 And<space>most<space>of<space>the<space>efforts<space>in<space>our<space>culture<space>are<space>about<space>raising<space>money<space>for<space>more<space>research.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 361.92 10.40 And<space>this<space>is<space>a<space>lovely<space>thing<space>to<space>do,<space>but<space>in<space>the<space>meantime,<space>I<space>know<space>they're<space>not<space>gonna<space>cure<space>it<space>for<space>my<space>mother,<space>and<space>I'm<space>not<space>sure<space>when<space>that's<space>gonna<space>happen.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 372.32 33.12 And<space>I<space>think<space>about<space>death<space>and<space>dying,<space>and<space>I<space>want<space>us<space>as<space>a<space>society<space>to<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>be<space>more<space>at<space>peace<space>with<space>that,<space>and<space>that<space>when<space>an<space>illness<space>is<space>at<space>the<space>end<space>of<space>the<space>life<space>cycle,<space>and<space>maybe<space>we<space>can't<space>change<space>it,<space>maybe<space>we're<space>never<space>gonna<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>figure<space>out<space>exactly<space>what's<space>going<space>on<space>with<space>the<space>plaques<space>and<space>tangles,<space>well<space>then<space>maybe<space>let's<space>just<space>change<space>the<space>society,<space>so<space>that<space>we<space>can<space>make<space>it<space>easier<space>on<space>the<space>people<space>that<space>are<space>living<space>in<space>that<space>different<space>kind<space>of<space>a<space>state.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 405.60 3.28 And<space>I<space>think<space>that<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>best<space>ways<space>to<space>change<space>things<space>is<space>humor.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 408.96 8.96 And<space>I<space>think<space>that<space>if<space>we<space>laugh<space>and<space>we<space>lighten<space>up<space>about<space>what's<space>going<space>on,<space>then<space>we<space>all<space>of<space>a<space>sudden<space>get<space>creative<space>and<space>we<space>have<space>new<space>ways<space>to<space>handle<space>it.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 418.16 7.68 One<space>of<space>the<space>biggest<space>things<space>is<space>that<space>physicians<space>view<space>hallucinations<space>always<space>as<space>something<space>that<space>we<space>need<space>to<space>medicate.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 425.92 2.56 I<space>mean,<space>that's<space>a<space>symptom<space>of<space>something<space>that's<space>bad.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 428.64 4.32 My<space>mother<space>does<space>have<space>a<space>kind<space>of<space>dementia<space>where<space>she<space>does<space>hallucinate<space>a<space>lot.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 432.96 5.36 And<space>when<space>she<space>was<space>with<space>us,<space>we<space>just<space>got<space>so<space>we<space>understood<space>them.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 438.40 0.80 We<space>could<space>read<space>them.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 439.28 2.16 We<space>could<space>kind<space>of<space>learn<space>from<space>them.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 441.44 3.44 So<space>at<space>first<space>it<space>was<space>just<space>seeing<space>my<space>father<space>and<space>the<space>maple<space>trees.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 444.96 5.12 And<space>I<space>finally<space>figured<space>out<space>that<space>she<space>was<space>just<space>missing<space>him<space>and<space>wanting<space>to<space>make<space>peace<space>with<space>him.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 450.16 14.48 And<space>she<space>kind<space>of,<space>I<space>don't<space>know<space>if<space>it<space>was<space>subconsciously,<space>but<space>there<space>he<space>was<space>up<space>and<space>in<space>the<space>sky<space>somehow<space>or<space>another,<space>you<space>know,<space>maybe<space>metaphorically,<space>approaching<space>Heaven<space>and<space>or<space>something<space>like<space>that.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 464.72 13.92 And<space>so,<space>or<space>she<space>would<space>sometimes<space>see<space>her<space>parents<space>and<space>be<space>trying<space>to<space>make<space>peace<space>with<space>them,<space>because<space>I<space>think<space>at<space>the<space>end<space>of<space>life,<space>everybody<space>needs<space>to<space>make<space>peace,<space>with<space>others<space>and<space>with<space>themselves.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 478.80 6.32 So<space>we<space>use<space>those<space>hallucinations<space>as<space>a<space>chance<space>to<space>talk<space>about<space>those<space>things<space>and<space>make<space>peace.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 485.44 13.52 And<space>we<space>used,<space>so<space>instead<space>of<space>saying,<space>"They're<space>not<space>there,"<space>and,<space>"Of<space>course<space>he's<space>not<space>there,"<space>and<space>trying<space>to<space>correct<space>the<space>reality,<space>we<space>would<space>just<space>say,<space>"Oh,<space>you're<space>in<space>a<space>different<space>reality".
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 499.20 16.64 And<space>sometimes<space>it<space>would<space>happen,<space>a<space>lot<space>of,<space>that<space>she<space>would<space>think<space>she<space>was<space>around<space>World<space>War<space>II<space>and<space>that<space>there<space>were<space>soldiers<space>around<space>the<space>house<space>and,<space>or<space>she'd<space>think<space>that<space>we<space>were<space>eating<space>dog<space>meat<space>for<space>dinner<space>and<space>I'd<space>have<space>to<space>say,<space>"No<space>no<space>,<space>it's<space>steak.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 515.84 2.72 We<space>bought<space>it<space>at<space>the<space>country<space>store,"<space>or<space>what<space>have<space>you.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 518.72 5.20 And<space>so<space>I<space>would<space>just<space>sort<space>of<space>explain,<space>"Well,<space>I'm<space>in<space>2010.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 523.92 2.00 You<space>can<space>buy<space>this<space>from<space>the<space>store".
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 526.16 6.00 And<space>she<space>was<space>very<space>comfortable<space>saying,<space>"Oh,<space>okay,<space>I'm<space>in<space>1944<space>and<space>you're<space>in<space>2010.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 532.16 2.24 That<space>makes<space>sense,"<space>and<space>we<space>could<space>just<space>move<space>on.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 534.48 3.76 Whereas<space>if<space>I<space>had<space>said,<space>"What<space>are<space>you<space>doing<space>in<space>World<space>War<space>II<space>again?
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 538.32 3.92 It's<space>not<space>really<space>there,"<space>you<space>know,<space>it<space>would<space>have<space>been<space>a<space>conflict.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 542.24 12.48 And<space>let's<space>see,<space>we<space>incorporated<space>rituals<space>into<space>our<space>daily<space>lives<space>that<space>sort<space>of<space>made,<space>were<space>soothing,<space>'cause<space>that's<space>something<space>that<space>anthropologists<space>always<space>focus<space>on.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 554.80 7.36 We<space>look<space>at<space>the<space>rituals<space>that<space>exist<space>in<space>medicine,<space>like<space>changing<space>into<space>the<space>gown<space>and<space>the<space>rituals<space>of<space>the<space>medical<space>exam.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 562.80 6.96 So<space>we<space>just<space>kind<space>of<space>embraced<space>whatever<space>rituals<space>would<space>work<space>and<space>made<space>that<space>a<space>part<space>of<space>life.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 570.16 11.52 The<space>way<space>we<space>coped<space>with<space>every<space>sort<space>of<space>non-conforming<space>behavior<space>that<space>Alzheimer's<space>brought<space>out,<space>is<space>we<space>treated<space>it<space>like<space>it<space>was<space>a<space>superpower.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 581.92 12.72 So<space>when<space>she'd<space>say,<space>"Don't<space>you<space>see<space>him,<space>he's<space>right<space>there,"<space>instead<space>of<space>saying,<space>"No,<space>he's<space>not<space>there,"<space>I'd<space>say,<space>"I<space>can't<space>see<space>him,<space>but<space>you<space>can<space>'cause<space>you<space>have<space>special<space>powers".
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 594.88 6.88 And<space>that<space>affirming<space>of<space>her<space>reality<space>kept<space>her<space>from<space>getting<space>agitated.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 602.00 10.48 And<space>so<space>when<space>I<space>went<space>to<space>draw,<space>I<space>knew<space>I<space>had<space>to<space>capture<space>that,<space>and<space>being<space>able<space>to<space>fly<space>is<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>coolest<space>things<space>that<space>we<space>all<space>want<space>to<space>do.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 612.64 4.80 And<space>so<space>Alice<space>was<space>flying<space>very,<space>very<space>early<space>in<space>the<space>story.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 617.44 17.12 And<space>I<space>think<space>the<space>next<space>drawing<space>that<space>came<space>right<space>after<space>that,<space>was<space>about<space>her<space>being<space>ungrounded,<space>so<space>only<space>half<space>of<space>her<space>showing.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 635.28 4.24 And<space>that's<space>how<space>I<space>thought<space>of<space>Alzheimer's<space>disease.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 639.52 1.68 It<space>wasn't,<space>she<space>was<space>still<space>here.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 641.44 4.00 She<space>was<space>with<space>us,<space>but<space>she<space>wasn't<space>grounded<space>the<space>way<space>the<space>rest<space>of<space>us<space>are.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 645.52 3.12 She<space>was<space>kind<space>of<space>floating<space>in<space>a<space>different<space>world.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 648.88 18.56 So<space>those,<space>that<space>then<space>ended<space>up<space>kind<space>of<space>being<space>a<space>trope<space>that's<space>continued<space>in<space>the<space>artwork<space>and<space>in<space>the<space>stories<space>and,<space>and<space>I<space>guess<space>it<space>hearkens<space>to<space>the<space>special<space>power<space>and<space>that<space>it's<space>not<space>just<space>something<space>to<space>deny.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 667.52 2.88 There's<space>insights<space>from<space>the<space>losses.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 671.44 14.00 All<space>belief<space>systems<space>have<space>rituals,<space>and<space>Armenian<space>belief<space>systems,<space>I<space>mean,<space>they're<space>a<space>very<space>ancient<space>Christian<space>nation,<space>the<space>first<space>nation<space>to<space>adopt<space>Christianity<space>as<space>a<space>state<space>religion,<space>back<space>in<space>301.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 685.52 14.24 And<space>so<space>that's<space>a<space>part<space>of<space>her<space>upbringing,<space>and<space>I<space>felt<space>like<space>I<space>wanted<space>to<space>honor<space>that<space>and<space>really<space>had<space>the<space>coolest<space>experience<space>circling<space>back<space>around<space>that<space>with<space>her.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 699.76 2.72 I<space>mean,<space>she<space>grew<space>up<space>in<space>a<space>religious<space>family.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 702.96 4.24 She<space>completely<space>rejected<space>it,<space>so<space>I<space>did<space>not<space>grow<space>up<space>in<space>a<space>religious<space>family.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 707.28 7.68 I<space>went<space>off<space>to<space>Sunday<space>School<space>with<space>my<space>Methodist<space>friends,<space>went<space>to<space>shul<space>with<space>my<space>Jewish<space>friends,<space>to<space>Quaker<space>summer<space>camp,<space>to<space>everything.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 716.00 22.08 But<space>during<space>Alzheimer's,<space>I<space>thought<space>it<space>might<space>be<space>really<space>nice<space>to<space>bring<space>my<space>mom<space>to<space>Armenian<space>church<space>and,<space>you<space>know,<space>sure<space>enough,<space>we<space>got<space>there<space>and<space>she<space>just<space>kind<space>of<space>got<space>into<space>the<space>service<space>and<space>standing<space>up<space>and<space>down<space>and,<space>and<space>started<space>kind<space>of<space>chanting<space>along,<space>'cause<space>she<space>had<space>done<space>this<space>every<space>Sunday<space>of<space>her<space>childhood.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 738.80 4.96 So<space>again,<space>the<space>iconography,<space>it<space>kind<space>of<space>came<space>in<space>subconsciously.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 743.84 9.04 I<space>didn't<space>realize<space>it<space>the<space>first<space>time<space>I<space>drew<space>a<space>halo<space>around<space>her<space>head,<space>but<space>when<space>I<space>drew<space>it,<space>I<space>said,<space>"Oh<space>my<space>gosh,<space>that<space>looks<space>like<space>an<space>Armenian<space>manuscript".
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 752.96 8.56 And<space>then<space>maybe<space>that<space>stimulated<space>me<space>to<space>start<space>thinking<space>about,<space>"You<space>know,<space>it<space>might<space>be<space>helpful<space>to<space>bring<space>her<space>to<space>church<space>someday".
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 761.76 6.32 And<space>sure<space>enough,<space>after<space>the<space>service,<space>the<space>priest<space>came<space>up<space>to<space>her<space>and<space>asked<space>her<space>what<space>was<space>her<space>name?
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 768.08 1.44 And<space>she<space>didn't<space>say,<space>"Alice".
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 769.60 4.48 She<space>said<space>,<space>which<space>means<space>dove<space>in<space>Armenian,<space>and<space>it's<space>the<space>name<space>her<space>parents<space>gave<space>her.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 774.24 3.28 I<space>was<space>a<space>professor,<space>so<space>I<space>was<space>used<space>to<space>speaking<space>to<space>people.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 777.68 2.64 But<space>to<space>speak<space>about<space>your<space>artwork<space>is<space>different.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 780.32 1.20 It's<space>more<space>intimate.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 781.60 10.80 And<space>I<space>think<space>the<space>first<space>gallery<space>talk<space>that<space>I<space>gave<space>was<space>at<space>Dianne<space>Shullenberger's<space>gallery<space>in<space>Jericho<space>and<space>at<space>her<space>"Delicious<space>Words"<space>series.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 792.40 8.72 And<space>it<space>was<space>lovely<space>to<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>just<space>directly<space>connect<space>with<space>people<space>and<space>know<space>how<space>the<space>artwork<space>touched<space>them.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 801.60 7.36 And<space>I<space>had<space>already<space>read<space>some<space>of<space>my<space>writing<space>there,<space>but<space>that<space>was<space>the<space>first<space>time<space>that<space>I<space>spoke<space>about<space>the<space>artwork.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 808.96 6.08 And<space>since<space>then,<space>you<space>know,<space>I've<space>been<space>speaking<space>at<space>festivals,<space>the<space>Full<space>Circle<space>Festival<space>in<space>Burlington.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 815.04 8.56 I<space>spoke<space>at<space>TEDxYerevan<space>last<space>year<space>back<space>in<space>Armenia,<space>TEDxBattenkill,<space>speaking<space>at<space>the<space>international<space>comics<space>and<space>medicine<space>conferences.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 823.60 1.84 And<space>I<space>mean,<space>actually<space>been<space>going<space>all<space>over.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 825.44 4.48 I<space>go<space>to<space>academic<space>things<space>and<space>then<space>more<space>open<space>to<space>the<space>public<space>things.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 829.92 21.12 And<space>I<space>have<space>to<space>say<space>that<space>when<space>I'm<space>at<space>the<space>academic<space>things,<space>what<space>I<space>love<space>is<space>making<space>it<space>be<space>more<space>down<space>to<space>earth<space>and<space>rather<space>than<space>erudite,<space>because<space>I<space>think<space>that<space>that's<space>the<space>strength<space>about<space>"Aliceheimer's,"<space>that<space>I've<space>written<space>it<space>in<space>a<space>way<space>that<space>I'm<space>trying<space>to<space>really<space>connect<space>with<space>people,<space>and<space>that's<space>what<space>you're<space>supposed<space>to<space>do<space>in<space>public<space>things.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 851.60 26.72 So<space>when<space>I<space>am<space>in<space>a<space>more<space>formal<space>setting,<space>I<space>still<space>try<space>and<space>make<space>it<space>very<space>interactive<space>and,<space>and<space>make<space>people<space>talk<space>to<space>each<space>other,<space>and<space>make<space>people<space>think<space>about<space>things<space>that<space>are<space>personal,<space>and<space>people<space>respond<space>that<space>we're<space>all<space>looking<space>for<space>opportunities<space>to<space>process<space>these<space>hard<space>things,<space>like<space>watching<space>a<space>loved<space>one<space>lose<space>their<space>memories<space>completely<space>and<space>not<space>recognize<space>them,<space>and<space>die.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 878.40 8.64 And<space>so<space>I<space>want<space>this<space>to<space>be<space>a<space>venue<space>for<space>us<space>to<space>be<space>able<space>to<space>embrace<space>the<space>positive,<space>and<space>also<space>find<space>a<space>way<space>to<space>cope<space>with<space>the<space>loss.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 887.68 6.00 So<space>one<space>book<space>is<space>done,<space>the<space>first<space>volume<space>of<space>it,<space>and<space>it<space>came<space>out<space>with<space>an<space>Armenian<space>publisher.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 893.76 7.12 Harvest<space>published<space>it<space>last<space>fall,<space>and<space>it's<space>available<space>through<space>Phoenix<space>Books,<space>and<space>also<space>at<space>Grand<space>Isle<space>Art<space>Works.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 901.52 7.60 And<space>what<space>I'm<space>working<space>on<space>now<space>is<space>a<space>second<space>book,<space>that's<space>going<space>to<space>be<space>told<space>in<space>more<space>classic<space>comics<space>form.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 909.12 12.56 So<space>the<space>first<space>volume,<space>it<space>was<space>a<space>series<space>of<space>comics<space>that<space>then<space>I<space>went<space>back<space>into<space>afterwards<space>and<space>wrote<space>a<space>series<space>of<space>vignettes,<space>just<space>strictly<space>words,<space>that<space>were<space>inspired<space>by<space>each<space>one<space>of<space>the<space>pictures.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 921.84 9.68 This<space>next<space>book<space>is<space>gonna<space>take<space>the<space>form<space>of,<space>like<space>"Maus"<space>or<space>the<space>"Fun<space>Home"<space>or<space>"Persepolis,"<space>just<space>in<space>straight<space>graphic<space>narrative<space>form.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 931.76 12.08 I'm<space>gonna<space>blend<space>the<space>story<space>of<space>Alice<space>and<space>her<space>memory<space>loss<space>and<space>her<space>Armenian<space>upbringing<space>as<space>an<space>immigrant<space>in<space>New<space>York<space>City<space>with<space>going<space>to<space>Armenia<space>and<space>talking<space>to<space>old<space>people<space>there.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 944.32 10.72 And<space>inevitably<space>the<space>first<space>thing<space>that<space>anybody<space>would<space>say<space>to<space>me<space>in<space>Armenia<space>when<space>I<space>said,<space>"My<space>mother<space>has<space>dementia,"<space>would<space>be,<space>"Oh,<space>was<space>she<space>a<space>genocide<space>survivor"?
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 955.04 10.40 So<space>in<space>their<space>mindset,<space>it<space>made<space>complete<space>sense<space>that<space>you<space>would<space>lose<space>your<space>memory,<space>if<space>you<space>were<space>hiding<space>traumatic<space>memories,<space>you<space>know,<space>things<space>that<space>were<space>just<space>too<space>painful<space>to<space>remember.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 965.68 2.64 Biomedical<space>models<space>don't<space>go<space>there<space>at<space>all<space>.
Aliceheimer_s_at_MMCTV_-_An_Interview_with_Dana_Walrath 1 968.80 8.72 And<space>so<space>this<space>is<space>gonna<space>be<space>a<space>chance<space>to<space>kind<space>of<space>integrate<space>those<space>two<space>stories<space>and<space>talk<space>about<space>memory<space>on<space>lots<space>and<space>lots<space>of<space>different<space>levels.