The Ayahuasca Interview, Part 2
By: Jeremy Musighi
Tags: Spirituality, Psychology, Psychedelics, Science, Personal Development

Continued from The Ayahuasca Interview, Part 1…

In Part 2 of this interview, we dive into some specific questions about what my friend experienced and learned during his ceremony.

Q: You mentioned earlier that drinking Ayahuasca enables people to learn about how the Universe works. Was this part of your experience and if so, what learnings can you share?

Yes, definitely. I learned about some pretty big concepts.

Past Lives

First of all, I was fascinated to find out that I have lived MANY past lives and to learn about the details of some of them. I had felt for a while that the idea of reincarnation might be true, but this experience confirmed it for me.

As I sat there, I was being shown bits and pieces all of these past lives that I’ve lived. Egypt, Africa, Brazil, Russia, Persian Empire, Iraq… It was incredible. Some of them were given to me as pure facts, and some came with actual images that felt like memories that I was remembering.

I actually felt really overwhelmed by how many lives there were and they were just firing them at me one after the other. It was a lot to take in and I literally asked for a break because I couldn’t keep up.

During this process I learned that several people in my life today have played roles in my past lives, including friends, family members, and even somewhat random acquaintances. In each case, we are connected again in this life for different reasons, such as resolving things we went through in the past. For example, my brother in this life was previously my son and my best friend in this life was previously my wife.

A really interesting thing was that two seemingly random friends of mine were separately mentioned and I was given specific guidance about the importance of maintaining my relationships with each of them.

Soul Contracts

So many important things that occur in our lives are actually explicitly agreed upon by us, on a soul level, before incarnating. We choose what kind of “theme” we are going to explore in this life, which I think means the types of overarching challenges we’ll face in this lifetime, stemming from the circumstances of how we are raised, what kind of family we are born into, where we live, and things that we just tend to have difficulty with. Experiencing and overcoming those challenges adds to our soul’s overall learning, which is its primary purpose for incarnating. Each time we resolve one of these deep challenges, it’s sort of like leveling up as a soul.

So if you ask yourself the question, “Why am I here?” or “Why is this happening to me?”, the answer is to learn some important lessons and make forward progress on a soul level.

We also enter soul contracts with other people. As far as I understand, this applies to the people who play an important role in our lives, but it could even be people who play a very minor role. I understood that every person who was in the ceremony with me at that moment had agreed beforehand to have this experience together.

Let me mention that I don’t believe this means our lives are pre-determined. I think our major themes are pre-selected (by us), and there are mutual agreements made with other souls who will participate in our lives. But the way things play out, the decisions we make- all of that stuff is left open and happens however it may. Life themes are decided on a very general level and manifest in your life in specific ways that are not predetermined. But however they may appear, they are there for you to work through an important challenge and learn a deep underlying lesson.

The Flow of The Universe

Everything that happens in our lives is exactly the way it needs to be. The Universe runs in perfect harmony. The complexity of the intelligence of the Universe is unbelievable… For example, something that happens that affects 1,000 different people will play a unique role in each person’s life, synchronously happening at exactly the right time for a specific reason.

That means there are not necessarily any “good” or “bad” events because they are all equally valid and necessary. When you interpret something that happens as “bad” or “negative”, you are giving it that definition.

When something happens that you did not want and you fight against it as hard as you can, trying to change it and not accepting it, you are denying the natural flow of the Universe.

The more you can accept and embrace this concept and apply it to your life, the more easily you’ll get what you need, the less stressed you’ll be, and the less difficult your life will feel. What you want is not necessarily what you need. We as humans are not equipped to see the bigger picture when some circumstance arises. You are only seeing one small piece.

The universe is giving you everything you need, but you just need to TRUST it and be OPEN. Things are not going to happen the way you want or expect them to. They will happen the way they NEED to.

Time is Not Linear

Everything is happening at the same time. The past, present, and future do not follow a straight path. They all exist simultaneously.

I’ve been using the term “past life” but they are really parallel lives occurring at other points in space-time. And you are energetically connected to your parallel lives, which can be in the “past” or “future”.

At some point I heard you mention words like “they” and “them”, seemingly referring to some invisible mysterious people. Who’s “they”?

(Laughing) “They” are difficult to describe but you can think of them as spiritual guides. I receive information from them and I know they’re there but they usually don’t tell me much about themselves. I know there are several of them and they specialize in different things.

The one I have visually seen most clearly, in my mind’s eye, is a beautiful female spirit who works with me on all things related to body movement. During a ceremony, she stretches me out, moves my body around, and basically leads me through a yoga session to release bodily tension.

I think these guides are people who lived human lives, and after their death they transitioned to helping people from the spirit realm. Every person has spirit guides working with them, whether they realize it or not.

What you may experience as your intuition telling you something can actually be your spirit guides telling you something. You are mentally connected with them and they are able to send you thoughts anytime, which feel like they are your own thoughts, because you are intertwined with each other.

They love you unconditionally and are dedicated to serving you on your path in this life. I’ll speak for myself but I suspect that most people would also experience this — with ayahuasca, I am way more sensitive to my guides. I can hear their messages more clearly and unmistakably, I can sometimes see them visually, I can feel their presence more strongly, and I can definitely feel their love. They can literally move my body (with my permission).

So we covered the things you learned about the Universe. Are there other valuable lessons, about any subject, that you want to share?

I learned how hollow our physical identities truly are — like gender and ethnicity. When you realize that you’ve lived many lifetimes as a man and a woman, as African, South American, Middle Eastern, European… You naturally let go of placing so much significance onto your current gender or ethnicity and see yourself more as an expansive soul that can express itself in many forms.

The notion of defining someone based on their ethnicity pretty much disappears. The whole idea of thinking you’re fundamentally different from someone based on generalizations like race, religion, gender is simply laughable.

What other ways has your perspective on your day to day life changed since the ceremony?

I’ve learned to respect each individual’s life choices more and allow them to have their journey, their way. When you see someone making choices that you don’t agree with, because maybe you believe they aren’t what’s best for that person, it’s natural to feel the urge to change their course as a means of helping them. You may want to convince them that what they’re doing is wrong and some other path is the right one. Or to save them from the pain they’re going to experience.

But the truth is that every choice we make leads to learning, whether it’s learning in an enjoyable way or an unenjoyable way. As someone who cares, it’s our job to share our perspective and be supportive, while respecting someone’s decision to learn in whichever way they choose.

Every way of life is another path to learning and they are all equally valid. Pain, joy, poverty, riches, trauma, pleasure- all are different ways to exist and thus opportunities to learn about different facets and angles of existence. There is unique learning in the experience of being a king and there is unique learning in the experience of being homeless.

Thank you for sharing your transformational experience and allowing me to share it with others. I really appreciate you being open about something so personal to you.

It’s been a pleasure sharing my story. I hope it sheds some light, but I can imagine that it would leave people with more questions than answers… And that is great! Follow your curiosity and explore.

Closing note

Okay, so overall this conversation went into some really far-out places that I had not anticipated, to say the least. Again, I’m strictly not attaching any of my personal views to this content; I’m only acting as a messenger, bringing you some wildly unusual messages.