90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days Recap, Season 4 Episodes 16 and 17
By: Tiffany Wong
Tags: Entertainment, TV, Reality TV, Pop Culture

A recap of “The Couples Tell All,” season 4 episodes 16 and 17 of 90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days.

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Just like The Bachelor, BT90D reserved two episodes for their couples to “tell all.” Usually, they’ll fly everyone in to gather on some couches at a studio, but because of the pandemic, everyone’s logged into their Zoom accounts, including Shaun Robinson, the host.

For the most part, the episodes were similar to the usual Tell-all, with people talking over each other, fingers pointing at the camera, threats of leaving (lol), and secrets revealed.

Who makes it in the end? And why does David refuse to drink water???

Geoffrey (41) and Varya (30) // Ryazan, Russia

Relationship status: Who knows?

I was hoping that Shaun, and TLC in general, would take the time to mention why they’ve blacklisted Geoffrey, but instead we got a generic acknowledgement from Shaun that Geoffrey and Varya will not be at the Tell-all. Nothing about his domestic assault charges.

“Unfortunately, there is one couple that will not be joining us today: Geoffrey and Varya.”

However, Geoffrey took to Instagram and wrote, “These claims are the main reason I’ve been lambasted with such vitriol. I can assure you, if any of these fables were true, I would bow out and accept responsibility. Not all is as it seems.”

Here’s the full Instagram post. He’s also planning on hosting his own Tell-all on YouTube, so we’ll have to wait and see what he has to say.

I wonder if he’ll invite Mary on it too…

Ash (38) and Avery (32) // Melbourne, Australia

Relationship status: Broken up

Notables:

Ash and Avery were actually supposed to be together for this Tell-all, but they’re not.

“The journey of our relationship has been tough on us both. There was a lot of weight that was carrying on my shoulders with what types of things come with ash coming to America, which is taking him away from his son that would affect his ex-wife Sian,” Avery says. “There’s a lot of things that play into it, but I felt like I wanted to step away and gather my thoughts in this process and navigate my feelings and in doing that, he decided to step away for good.”

“If that person is really committed, we could work this out without having to take a break,” Ash says. Actually, fair point.

The two discuss an earlier incident in their relationship when Ash deleted photos of her on his Instagram and his explanation for that makes absolutely no sense. “You’re lying to me again,” Avery says. “You’re lying straight to my face again!”

“You portrayed to me that you were this authentic person, but I kept having a gut feeling telling me that this person isn’t showing me everything,” Avery says. “That was what was weighing on me this entire relationship.”

She then brings up a moment when he cheated on a diet they were both supposed to do together. It’s a small thing, but it’s a shame that she doesn’t mention the huge things Ash has lied about before in the past, like about when he divorced his ex Sian and that Sian would be okay with his son Taj moving to America. Oh, and that time he straight-up told her that he’s single. To her face.

things Ash has lied about before in the past, like about when he divorced his ex Sian and that Sian would be okay with his son Taj moving to America. Oh, and that time he straight-up told her that he’s single. To her face. We find out that though things with Ash are completely over, he was the best sex of her life. Great to know.

What’s the future of their relationship? Ash says he still loves her, but breaking up with her was the hardest thing he had to do. He’s going to be focusing on his family. Avery says they just separated, so she doesn’t know if they’ll get back together.

Ed (54) and Rosemarie (23) // Calocan, Philippines

Relationship status: “I don’t want any connection with Ed,” Rose says.

Notables:

For the tell-all, Rose asked for a translator, which is great. She’s so angry, it’s hard for her to explain her feelings in English.

According to Ed, Rose tried to reach out to him this past Valentine’s Day, and shows everyone a bunch of screenshots of their video chat. But the thing is — those could’ve been taken when they were still together! Ed, these receipts won’t hold up in court.

Rose says it’s the complete opposite, that Ed is lying and that he reached out to her.

“I miss Rose. I love Rose,” Ed says about the possibility of them getting back together. “I was ready to give up everything. I was ready to give up my daughter. I had already repaired that relationship with Tiffany, but I had feelings for Rose.” He then shows a screenshot of a photo Rose sent to him of two hands, both with watches on the wrists.

He asks her if it’s a woman’s hand and Rose confirms. He then accuses Rose of being in a relationship with a woman since February 9th. She clarifies that she was in a relationship with a woman, but that it happened after Ed and that she and the woman aren’t together anymore.

Shaun is us.

Ed says he didn’t know that Rose is bisexual. Then the folks at TLC showed Erika and Steph on the call. My God, what a mess.

“And there’s nothing wrong with that!” Jerry Seinfeld once said.

THEN, Tiffany, Ed’s daughter shows up. Shaun asks what she thinks about her dad’s previous statement about being ready to break off his relationship with his daughter again for Rose.