The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-10-14 00:00:00

THE LATE .POOL S'T'ANDARD:

viously informed what the price would be. In the mean while
the second application was made, and in the course of conver-
sation the second applicant says, "I will give you your price;
is it a bargain or not ?" and was answered, and here came the
most important proviso, "that i§ if it is not superseded by the
existing negociation." Then the first party taking it before the
offer was withdrawn from hint, how then could they conclude
except with the first party? He was very glad that the com-
mittee had pointed out the inconvenience arising- from having
had the sale committed to two individuals. lie hoped to turn
this untoward circumstance to good account: on some future
occasion he should bring forward a motion on the subject. He
was satisfied that the committee could have coins to no other
decision than they had done. He had never sat on a committee
where the individual ineinhers of it seemed actuated by a higher
sense of duty.
Mr. Councillor Bourox hoped it would be recollected that
there was no person in the council who would be more cautious
that its honour should be unsullied with the public than himself.
He trusted that it would ever maintain the strictest honour, and
that the most liberal construction would be put on the acts of its
members. But the matter in question was one affecting the
rights of the public, and he for one could not but think there
had been some inadvertency on the part of the improvement
committee. He attributed no improper motive to them—he
had no suspicion of them. He would only simply advert to the
circnmstances. On the 29th of August the committee came to
the determination that the price of the land should be £l2 per
square yard, which was confirmed on the 7th of September.
On the 19th of September, the improvement committee inet ;
they had before been in communication with Mr. Rotheram.
Mr. Rotheram might have known on the 19th that the price was
£l2. He offers to the committee £lO per square yard. On
the same day, £lO 10s. is recorded as au offer trout Mr. Parry,
and up to that time he would say that Mr. Rotheram had no
claim of courtesy from the committee. He knew that the price
was £l2, and he had offered £lO. Another person, on the
same day, offered £lO 10s., and therefore he would say that if
it was desirable to make any communication with any party, it
should have been with both- parties. It appeared to him that
there was an error in judgment in not saying to both parties
that their offers were declined, £l2 having been fixed. On the
following day, Mr. Parry came from the bank and said, " I will
give you £12," and he made the offer to an accredited officer.
He (lid not think, therefore, that the committee had acted fairly
by the bank. The bank had the possession of their ears, they
might say, in being the last offerers. In order to stand well
with the public, he should move that the sale of land be set
aside, or that the report be not received, whichever was the
proper mode.
1 he Maroit said it would be impossible for the council not to
receive the report of the committee which they had appointed:
They could not decline receiving that report which they had
authorised the committee to 'nage. The report must stand on the
the proceedings.
The '1 WN-ct,ERK said the way would be to move that the
report of the sale of the Globe Chambers be not confirmed.
Mr. BOLTON then moved that the-proceedings of the finance
committee, as far as regarded the sale of the Globe Chambers,
be not confirmed.

formation of the council, and proceeded. He then gave a
sketch of the good which had resulted from the throwhig open
of the corporation schools, with the system there pursued, deny-
ing that the bible was excluded, and eulogised Mr. Blacklinrn's
statement on the subject. He then went on to speak of the
reforms which had been made in . the Court of Requests, and
Borough.Ceurte The former had, he said, becine a prejudicial
nuisance; the goods of tile peor twin were not unfrequently
sacrificed with little benefit to the creditor, and when incarce-
ration ensued, it was generally at cost to the borough much
greater thin the amount of the debt. This court had under-
gone a thorough reform : in lieu of the then unprofessional
commissioners, whose attendance was at all times irregular, a
barrister of five years' standing had been appointed, and other
salutary changes made, without any additional expense to the
borough fund. It had been asserted that the council had dis-
missed the old and faithful servants of the town, and replaced
theist with creatures of their own. Of the officers of the late
corperation the first in point of importance was Mr. Foster, the
late town clerk. Of his memory he (Mr. W.) wished to say
nothing that could wound the feelings of his friends. In their
estimate (and he might adopt it) he was a man of great talents
and ability, and a decided tory, Mr. Foster's political princi-
ples were opposed to those of a great majority of the council;
he was a strong partizan of the opponents to the great measure
of municipal reform, Which the council were elected by the peo-
ple to carry fully into effect. Could the council in cinntnon
prudence have confided in Mr.'Foster ? Could Mr. Foster in
honour have accepted that confidence, had it been tendered ?
Either he mast net have served the council, or he must have
abandoned that party to which he was so strongly attached.
Indeed, Mr. Foster appeared to have foreseen this, for it was
saidthat he had procured that clause to be introduced into the
act, which compensated him for the loss of office and pensioned
him for life. Mr, Walttisley went on to state the salary and
emoluments of the late Mr. Foster, and to contrast them with
the present expenditure in the same offices, whereby. he said a
great saving had been effected. The present town clerk had
not been selected for any violent partizanship that he had ever
exhibited—others had stronger claiins—(hear)—but for his
fitness for the office, for his talent, industry, indefatigable zeal
and known determination to reform the abuses of the local
courts, (The town-elerk here looked unutterable things at his
eulogist.) Mr. John Foster, the architect, had been continued,
but-at a reduction of his emoluments, which more than pro-
vided for the services of an efficient surveyor. The former
treasurer feeling his inability to perform the duties of his de-
partment, had retired with a compensation of £SIX) a year.
So, far for the patronage of the Towa-hall ; --now for out of it,
Mr. Walmsley then alluded to the appointment of Mr. Hall as
stipendiary magistrate, who, by his mode of getting through
the business; had procured a saving of what was more than an
equivalent to his stipend. The magistrates' clerks had been
appointed.with a considerable saving in their salaries, and in
the same manner the receiver of town dues. From this state-
ment of facts it might be gathered, in answer to " What had
the council done?" that they had in their appointment kept in
view the fitness et .the, man fur the office, instead of the fitness.
of the office for the man; nor had they in one instance selected
any relation or dependant of their own. (Mr. Bolton here
looked fidgety:) They had displaced only those officers who
couleknot be returned either with honour to themselves or ad-
vantage to the community. They had advanced such officers,
without distinction as to political bias. as were deserving. They
had, as far as was practicable, abolished leesnis part of the
emoluments oftheir officers, and paid them by fixed salarleseThey
had, to the extent of their local power, provided for the efficient
and prompt administration of justice, and had endeavoured to
introduce into the gaol a system of classification and a mode of
discipline calculated to reclaim at least the young offenders.
Mr. Walmsley went over many other benefits which he said
had been conferred, by stating that by their financial arrange.
meats, they had saved to the borough fund upwords of 1:10,0(X)
per annum. They had thrown open the corporation schools,
which had caused the snore general diffusion of the blessings of
education, and they had paved the way for the extinction of
those sectarian feelings which had given rise to so much bitter-
ness. (Hear.) These he said were some of the acts of a coun-
cil popularly elected, and responsible to public opinion. Our
local governments were now amenable to the tribunal of the
public, and it was satisfactory to a man in a- public trust, to feel
that there was abundant security for well doing in the intelli-
gence and honesty of the community. (Loud cries of " Hear,
hoar.") Mr. \Valmsley concluded, by apologising for the length
at which he bad spoken, and moving the confirmation of the
report of the town dues' committee, which was seconded by Mr.
Jordan.

Mr. Councillor HOLT said that Mr. Bolton was arguing on
the presumption that the improvement committee had offered
the land to both parties; but such was not the fact, for they had
made a previous offer to Mr. Rotherham. And they must, in
the ordinary manner, have concluded that engagement previous
to entering into any other.
Mr. Councillor Fla tux thought the question had better be
settled one wac or the other, and not lose all their time over this
question.
Mr. Alderman 0. HEYWORTH said the committee had fully
investigated the matter, and could not come to any other deter-
mination than they had done he was persuaded, if they did what
was right.
Mr. Councillor MORF.CROFT considered when the land had
been offered to Mr. Rotherham at £l2 a yard, and he had
offered £lO, that it was an abandonment of the treaty. (Hear.)
Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN seconded Mr. Bolton's resolu-
tion. He was of opinion that the sale ought not to be confirmed.
Various as the opinions were, and complicated and difficult as
the question was, he was of opinion that the sale ought to be
set aside and they ought to begin denim.
After touch further discussion, Mr. JORDAN, seconded by Mr.
BROWN, moved that the report be inserted on the minutes.
Mr. Bolton's motion was then put, when there appeared for
the motion 20, against it 29. The sale to Mr. Rotherham was
consequently confirmed. The following is a list of the division:
—For the motion, Messrs. J. Holmes, Horsfall, Thornhill,
Sheil, Harvey, Thornely, Barton, Walmslev, Birch, Button,
Woolright, Bright, Rathbone, Preston, J. Lawrence, More-
croft, Blackburn, Evans, Frame, and Bean.—Against the mo-
tion, Messrs. S. Hope, Logan, Itawdon, M'Gregor, H. Holmes,
Rushton, El. Hornby, J. Holt, Earle, Carson, Coglan, Alison,
G. Holt, Jordan, Duncan, Blain, 0. leyworth, Moon, Bulley,
Barclay, Robinson, Stuart, Booth, Brown, Leathom, J. Smith,
Junes, and the Mayon—Against the motion, 29; for the mo-
tion, 20; majority. 9.,—Absent, Messrs. L. Heyworth, Mellor,
Maxwell, Aikin, H. Lawrence, Brocklebank, Roskell, E.
Smith, E. Cropper, Leigh, Sandars, J. Cropper, Tayleur, and
J. Hornby.
Mr. Councillor Hops gave notice of a motion that he would
move, at the following quarterly meeting, for the adoption of an
uniform system of sale.
WATCH COMMITTEE. _ .

GENERAL BUSINESS.
The MA von said, it having► been intimated to him that Mr.
Waintsley wished to express his, opinions at this Council-meet-
ing, he had departed from his usual course of laying before
them the deeuments which had been placed in his hands. The
first was a very able letter from a. gointleman of the name of
Felton, a surgeon, in Toxteth-park, strongly recommending
the raising ef a National Picture Gallery. If it were not so very
long he should like much to read it to the Council. It was a
very important subject.
Mr. Councillor RATHBONE thought it ought to be printed to
circulate.

Mr. Councillor Hoeft thought the reporters would be glad to
get it if it were handed to them. (None of the reporters, how-
ever, expressed any desire to obtain it.)
The next was a letter from Lieutenant Coffin, stating that it
was the intention to erect a Naval School (at Greenwich, we
understood), and requesting to know if the Corporation would
grant any sum towards the erection. (Cries of "No funds ;"
"no.") The Mayor said he should reply accordingly.
The next was a letter from five medical gentlemen, requesting
to be allowed to erect railings in front of the Medical-hall.
Referred to the Improvement Committee.
The next. were three memorials from the churchwardens and
congregations of St. Martin's, St. Michael's, and St. Luke's,
very uumerouily signed, and all the same in effect. The con-
gregations expressed themselves willing to contribute to the
maintenance of the choir, but as they took their seats under the
understanding that these things were to be provided, they hoped
a corresponding reduction would be Made in the rents.
The MAYOR said he was of opinion that if the rents were not
too low it was but a fair demand as between landlord and
tenant. . _

It was resolved, that Mr. Win. Parkinson be appointed to the
situation of keeper of the central Bridewell, and that he and his
wife fill the situations recently occupied by Mr. and Mrs. Bat-
cheldor, at the same salary.
At a meeting of the committee on the 30th of September, it
was resolved to appoint six watchmen to watch the boundaries
of Everton.—Confirmed.

Mr.llor. BOLTON—" Refer it to the Finance Com-
mittee, in as much as grinding-stones and slates very often go
together."

therefore, he should never in such a case hesitate to gratify his
own private.feelitsgs in voting. .. „ .
Mr. Couneilloi Bt lice begged to propose Mr. Bernard Pyron
as.ss fit•and proper person to fill the office. Tile testimonials,
which had been read by the Town-clerk, in his favour, most tie
perfectly satisfactory as far as regarded the respectability Of his
character and Isis competency to fill the situation. He might
also say that he had taken some little pains to inquire into his
character, and he felt perfectly convinced that if he shoeld be
appointed he would be found a diligent and faithful servant of
the' public. He need not say that in advocating the applleatioti
of this gentleman, he did hot intend to convey the slightest dis-
respect to Mr. Roscoe. ("No.") He believed every oneaeho
was acquainted with Mr. Roscoe was aware that he possessed
talents of a very high order which would qualify hint to diss
charge duties much superior to those of the office which he
sought. But he did believe that he was very far from being a
good man of business. He was of opinion that he was want-
ing in those habits of business and plodding detail which he
-was of opinion were necessary to the fulfilment of the duties of
sergeant-at-mace. There were undoubtedly some associations
connected with the name of Roscoe which must always reconas
mend it, and he felt that nothing could give him greater plea-
sure than to support Mr. Roscoe on the present occasion.
But he was always bound to remember on such occasions that
his situation in that council-room did not warrant him in fol-
lowing the dictates of his private feelings. He was simply there
in the exercise of a public trust, and he was bound to discharge
it, without favour or affection, for the general welfare of the pub-
lic. He had heard it said that Mr. Roscoe had peculiar claims
on their consideration, because he bad always been devotedly
attacheit,to that party of which the majority of that council was
composed; but, he must confess, lie could not discover in that-
circumstance any fair ground to claim his support, in the ab-
sence of what must be considered the indispensable qualifica-
tions. Party choice would always be estimated in the sight of
the public so lateg only as it was directed to the securing of a
cheap and equal and efficient administration of the public
offices. But when it departed from that and wandered into sel-
fish and impure courses it very soon became odious and offen-
sive. (Hear.) He was perfectly persuaded that if in making
appointments of this nature they ever should be governed by
their private imptilses, or by their desire to gratify their personal
prejudices, that the public would soon conclude that the days of
the old corporation were returned again upon them, and that
they had been cheated and, inapOseirupon by delusive-promises
of reform These considerations were forced upon him, mid
his convictions were such- in favour of Mr. Byron that he should
record his vote forliiin.
Mr. Councillor It ATHBONE here rose and said, " Mr. Birch
will not suppose as his speech seems to imply, that those who
will have given their votes for Mr. Roicoe will be influenced by
such motives." (Cries of " Hear, hear ;" and "the cap fits a
little," from Mr. Wm. Earle.)
Mr. Councillor BIRCH, in reply, said that his remarks was
put so extremely general, that he could not conceive how
any individual. could them to himself. He must say that
the observations which had occurred to hini were such as ap-
peared to him suited to the circumstances of the case, and were
not intended to apply to any individual whatever.
Mr. Councilldr Motteeitoer coincided with Mr. Birch. He
thought Mr. Byron a far more fit man than Mr. Roscoe. He
had paid great attention to business, and he knew him to be a '
very fit and proper man for the situation. He considered that
from his knowledge of the law be was far more fit than Mr.
Roscoe. He presumed that Mr. Roscoe had had no acquaint-
ance with the law for above 3U years, and he considered, also,
that his age was rather against his being appointed. Mr. Roscoe
was now 54 years of age, and he considered that in a very few
years he would have to be supeannuated. He considered that
the duties of Sergeant-at-Mace were getting every day of greater
importance and ha would have a great deal to attend to, to see
that the officers tinder him did their duty. It would be better
not to lead hint into a situation in which he would have a con-
siderable sum of money to pay for their neglect of duty. Under
these circumstances he seconded Mr. Birch's nomination with
a great deal of pleasure. He might state, in addition, that the
attorneys were better able to judge of the capabilities required
than most other persons, and many respectable solicitors spoke
in favour of Mr. Byron. .
The Ma Yoe said he would not give a vote for any person,
however interested he might be by lies of friendship,, if he did
not understand on good authority that he was fit for the office.
When he first had heard that Mr. Roscoe was to he a candidate,
he had felt a predisposition to serve him. The first thing he did
,was to consult souse professional man, and ask whether it was an
office which Mr. Roscoe could perform. He had said, "Let no
leaning on ynur part prevent your mentioning the truth," and he
had been informed that he was fully competent, and that there
was nothing in the duties which he was not fully able -to fulfil.
He was not incompetent on the score of age, for he was only
two years older than himself (the Mayor,) and he was as com-
petent for any duty as ever he was in his life, and in as good
health. He could not help feeling, as an inhabitant of Liver-
pool, that he oughts if he could do so without injustice to the
public, to offer a tribute to the tnemory of a man who hail tended
to raise the town in an intellectual point of view. He thought
they were not doing wrong in gratifying feelings of that descrip-
tion. He did believe that Mr. Roscoe had that within him
which would contradict the charge of those who thought him not
fitted for want of energy. He would not allow any consideration
to induce him to allow Mr. Roscoe to continue in his situation
one day longer than be was fitted for the discharge of his duties.
He should, under these circumstances, vote for Mr. Roscoe.
Mr. Councillor Suess was very happy te observe that amongst
the very many sensible remarks made by Mr. Walmsley there
was not one which had been so well received as that which said
they had been particularly cautious in their appointments to
elect none who were net particularly fitted for the office. Mr.
Walmsley had been perfectly right in that assertion: And they
were not to go on the probability .of a gentleman being fit for
an office when the facts were rather against him. He was per-
forming a very disagreeable duty, but so long as he was placed
there he would fearlessly give his opinion openly upon every
subject which was to be brought under consideration. He could
not believe that Mr. Roscoe was at all fitted for the situation.
He was told that he had acquired a legal knowledge as an appren-
tice in the office of Mr. Joshua Lace. In God's name what sort of
reason was this to offer to sensible men. A man thirty years
ago served'an apprenticeshipiOan Office:llld he came now with '
all the knowledge—the very deep knowledge of law which an
attorney generally made dining his apprenticeship. He would
go further, and say if he did then acquire any knowledge, that it
THC DEAD-HOUSE. would be a great injury to him now. The changes which had
Mr. Councillor E. SMITH wished to call the attention to the taken place in the law had been so radical and so important as
disgraceful state of the place called the Dead-house, in this to render his then acquired knowledge of no use to him now,
town. He had been in communicitibn with the Coroner on the if he bad not been so occupied as to keep his mind changing
subject, and he agreed.with him that the dead-house was really with the changes. Edery one knew that the greatest difficulty
a disgrace to the town of Liverpool. He need scarcely remind • was found in getting rid of preconceived opinions; and therefore
the Council that the object of it was to bring bodies found in it Mr. Roscoe had obtained any knowledge of the law at that
the river there in order that they might be identified by their time it would be injurious to him. Another reason which had
friends. As this was the case, it was obvious it ought to be heed urged in favour of Mr. Roscoe—he could not call it an ar-
well lighted and ventilated, and easy of access. It was obvious gument—was his connexions. He did not like those allusions
that the present dead-house did not fulfil any of those condi- in telling them that men were eminent or illustrious characters.
If they were, so much the better. But if Mr. Roscoe were that
tiors. It was a place something like a coal-house which was
not ventilated nor lighted. It had formerly been ventilated by sterling reformer which he was represented, he (Mr. Shiel)
own memory against this proceeding. his
a hole at the top—at least he understood au; he had not had an would appeol toabove upon themand say, " these
opportunity of finding it out himself—(laughter)—so that
parties haying to go into that place were nearly poisoned. Itpath of duty. " This was the point
If so, he would look down from p
men are swerving from the
was also so constituted that the very act of looking in prevented of view in which they ought to put it. He would say that they
parties seeing anything, for it excluded the light. (Loud laugh-
had no evidence whatever of Mr. Roscoe's fitness—not a shadow
ter.) This plate was very similar to an old French Morgue, of evidence, but quite the contrary : they saw there a man who
mentioned in "Croft's Travels on the Continent." Mr. Smith had not been eminent in any degree as a man of business.
then read an -extract from the above work describing the Mor- Then they were I beg your pardon.")—They were told that it
told that the lensiness was not very important.
gue alluded to as deprived of air and light, and so far from con- (The Mayor.—"
needed no experience, that the duties of the office were so very
tributing to the return of life in any one carried there, it was
.
calculated to make it extinct if it was not so already. Persons simple; because they must be simple unless he allowed super-
going there to recognise their friends were very liable to inhale natural powers to Mr. Roscoe—enthey must be sitnple or he could
infections. This exactly suited the description of the Liverpool They t
ogive discharging
security
not easily perform them.
had
been syhat line of conduct had they
dead-house. Independent of this it was a very great nuisancevnerfyrilinairgae
in another respect, it was a complete focus for pick-pockets. been pursuing ?
situation because he refused
these simple
atoUlan.
amount for the performance of
dutiest est! simple duties, and he had
He never went past the place but he saw a parcel of vagabonds
claimed compensation. If the were so very unimportant.
looking in to attract others to do so, who very often got their
pockets picked. slie, himself, in coining front the Bath— very unwisely. He thought it was au office of
they had acted
(laughter)—had frequently preen it. He understood from Mr. very great importance,. and he thought also that it occasion-
Currie, the Coroner, that (luring the last five months twenty- ally involved very intricate duties. Then he was told that the
three birdies had been placed there, and it was very pi obable a persons whom he might delegate would have the execution of
many of them had never been claimed. He thought it very the duties; he would appeal to any man who had the manage-
indiscreet to strip the bodies, us well as very disgusting. It was meta of a concern, if it were possible to conduct any concern
wrong in principle to do so; he hail frequently met persons in if the head were not intimately acquainted with the whole detail.
Mr. Coglan's bath—(laughter)—with whom he was well ac- It was quite out of the question—it was out of the nature of
quainted, and had not known them they were so altered. (Con- things to expect that any establishment could be well conduct-
tinned laughter.) In fact, the clothes formed a very essential' ed unless the head knew the detail of the duties to be per-
part of the man. formed. Then in the execution .of his painful duty—taking
Mr. Councillor JOHN HOLMES thought this place was formed this view of the case—seeing that one man had brought them
by the parish, and not by the council. testimonials numerously and respectably signed—a man who
Mr. Councillor E. SMITH would move that the subject he re- had been ten years in the employment of one solicitor, 6 years
ferred to the improvement committee to inquire into. with another, and four years with another, and that the solici-
Mr. Alderman RoarNsosr seconded the motion. He believed tors spoke well of him; he did not see how they could possibly
Mr. Smith's] description was fully borne out, and it ought to be pass over this man and offer the appointment to another from
examined into. whom they had no such recommendat tons.
Mr. Councillor Hoee•said the subject was a very important The'Alivoit said he must say one word in explanatiOn. He
one. (Impatient cries of "bring it before the improvement would appeal to the gentlemen who had heard him if he had
committee.) He would recommend that attempts should be said anything calculated to lead to the impression alluded to
made to recussitate the bodies, nothing was now attempted, by Mr. Shiel, when he was alluding to the internal arrange-
The MAYOR.—Mr. Hope had better suggest this to the inn- ments of the office, he had said that the sergeant would not
provement committee; he was a member of it. have to arrest personally. He also begged to add that the ser-
Mr. Alderman Brown said probably Mr. Hope was not aware geant would be called on to see that his bailiffs gave proper se-
that the Northern Hospital was very near, vihe - uft '. '
le surgeons were c 1 )
always at hand. Mr. Councillor E. SMITH could not allow what Mr. Shiel
The 141avoir said he was very glad Mr. Smith had not been had said. to pass without notice. Mr. Shiel had said there was
aware that the dead-house was at the charge of the p arts •h or something ad captanduin in the statements relating to Mr.
,
they should have lost his speech. Roscoe. Was there not something similar in his own state-
r!. he motion that the subject be referred to the improvement ment, in appealing to the memory of Mr. Roscoe—that he ivas
n i•
committee to inquire into was then confirmed. looking down on them—that they. were going to de somethil...
SERGEANT-AT-MAcE. wrong? He felt confident that he was fully capable for the
The MAYOR said the next subject was tl appointment ffi -• dtht h• - - d• l•fi •ation
le of o ce, att a is age %%as no tsqua 1 s • Had not the
sergeant-at-mace. Gray, who was
government of the counts} given to Lord h .
The TOWN-el•Enx then read an application for the offiee; ten years older? As to any 'Man looking down en them, i
signed by Mr. W. S. Roscoe, of Upper Parliament-street, beg- had only one being looking down on him whom he fea'red, and
ging to offer himself as a candidate for the office, and that he that was God. He was as independent as Mr. Shiel, or any
should endeavour, if appointed, to curtout the • 'ofelse, in 'mind, and that account
, y
the new act. , ' Mr. Roscoe on a former occasion. But he thought it was right
Another application-was read, signed by Mr. Wm. Harvey, in before they took gush very
r. m. arvey, in personsßlC high gHe knewround to tell them
of West Derby-street, offering himself as a candidate. wherein Mr. Roscoe' was pot competent. (I-lear.)
Another application was read, signed by Mr. Burnard Byron, Mr. Roscoe to be a man of eminent talents, and he did think
of Exchange-alley, offering himself as a candidate, and stating that he only wanted opportunity to bring
and
tose talents out.
that he had been manager of a solicitor's office for a number of Mr. Roscoe had been subdued in spirit, I
m Let them they
all knew
years. Enclosed was -a testimonial of his fitness for the 'office, what effect this had on a man's character.give him
signed by a number of the solicitors of the town. - an opportunity and see what there was which he could not do
Another application was read, signed by Mr. John Dixon • uld appeal to
ip this paltry office. Ile AU, the council if the
Hore, of 14, Cazueau-street, offering himself for the office, or opinions of the Mayor, of Mr. Ilathbone, and of Mr. Earle
if he should not be appointed, offering himself also as trea- were not as good
on this
?point as these of Mr. Birch, Mr. Shiel,.
surer for the Court of Requests. A number of accompanying
and of Mr. Morecroft He could not eoincide in the observe-
testimonials were read, lions of Mr. Shiel, that there was anything in the legal know-
The MAYOR said he had received a letter, signed " Henr
v ledge which he might have acquired that he would be the worse
M'Allister," applying fur a Vacancy which he understood was to- for; and there was nothing in law which a man might not ac-
he filled up that day, but not statingwhat.
He offered himself quire front books. (Uh rs.)
for any of the vacancies to be filled up. (A laugh.) Mr. Councillor BLAEKBURN really must say, that from both
Mr. Councillor fIoPE inquired what the salary was to be. (A the speech of Mr. Shell and Mr. Birch it would appear as if
laugh.) persons were going to be influenced to give their votes for a
The Myron said it had already been fixed, sometime ago. person who was incompetent, or not so competent as to be able
to fill the situation. Let gentlemen urge their own opinions,
The TOWN-cLERK replied that the salary was £350 per an- n those of
num, out of which the sergeant was to provide a clerk. to he but not impugn those
wereothers. He must say, that the argo-
n, ment of Ir. Sheil calculated to produce the impression—
approved of by the council, or a committee of the council. '
wards
• the eayment;of the clerk's salary an allowance of 1:25 a- they would produce the Impressi
tad for Mi ltos ou out of doors—that those who
Year was to be made by the council, in consideration of which
a(n)d that thetief coe voted out of private friendship and party,
the clerk was to do the duty of crier of the court. ore they voted as they ought not to have done.
As he was on his legs th
Mr. Cou ' z
ne.llor RATHBoNE begged to propose Mr. Roscoe as law requisite for the discharge
the would allow him to ask what was the
a fit and competent person to fill the office. In doing this he
tlemen talked of the knowledge of law requisite as if the know-
was quite aware that he was subjecting himself to some misre- ledge of the whole of En English w were wanted. Surely that
presentation. He also felt that Mr. Roscoe was the son of a was not necessarf
toy
or the offic Sergeant at Mace ? If they
man to whom the town of Liverpool was much indebted. He
wanted to en
likewise felt that his friendship for Mr. Ilesroe might mislead
different. All the
some barrister on any question it would be
his judgnient, and he had, therefore, applied to a gentleman on
easily the knowledge of law requisite might be very
whose Judgment he could confide, whether he was right in think-
late acquired.,. Mr. Sheil had alluded to the dismissal of the
ing Mr. Roscoe ft for the office. That gentlemen had assured In ,
o cer. The errpro sureties were required of that
il. had ual- not becaus • t • bl•t• • • •t d tout,
him that he thouilit he was fitted for the situation, ant. .ie .
then felt himself at liberty to propose him. At the same time because
(Hs very large sums of money had to pass through his
be would say, in being the humble advocate of Mr. Roscoe, or 'ar.) He must say in recording his vote for Mr. ltoscee,
of any one; lie should feel it to be his duty if they • did not satin- that he did it under the impression that he was as competent for
. .• the office as individualit hadoffered himself for it, and
factorily fill the /eke to bring their condUct before the r ruttish, any iv ho
(Hear.)
and if they did not retire to require their dismissal. He need that on peculiar grounds lie was entitled to a preference.
Ma-
il e would, say that, in order to clear themselves from any
only state that Mr. Roscoe had been four years in Mr. Lace's
lace Mr. Roscoe in
office. He thouslit gentlemen would allow that a man of ta- •" r ;
picion re piny motives, they ought pot to p . s. the
Were they, nom
lent and a man of humanity was peculiarly required for the a worse position tines,
the other man. d
them, to be
office, He mightalso state that Mr. Roscoe was prepared with fear of having improper motives impute
.to
ct. .
`vote !")
red from acting justly ? (" Hear," and cries
deter-
the required sureties. taken, when there ap-
Tbe votes for each party were then
Mr. Councillor EA it LE said he was not aware that it was ne- peered
cessary that them gentlemen should be proposed ; however if For Mr. Roscoe—Messrs. J. Holmes, Horsfall, Harvey, E.
Holt Walmsley,
that was to be the plan he had great pleasure in seconding his Smith, Thoruely, Rawdon, Barton, H. nes,
rnby, Rathbone Preston,
Roscoe, Mr. Rat/11)41e. He had a very 'great wish to serve MI. Bolton, Woollright, Bright, H. Ho . , , ,
Alison, G. Holt, Sandals,
Roscoe and or al of whom he had inquired they had told him I'. Holt, Earle, Carson, Blackburn,
"'
that Mr. Roscoe eas perfectly qualified for the situation, and, J. Cropper, Jordan, Evans, Blain,. Hey worth, Hevworth, MOOD, Bulky,