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The house did

JE OF COMMONS—WEnNEsn4y.
Lord STANLEy postponed the second reading of his Irish

gistration bill until Vriday,

'tendon of then

ut ne snouid
le would bring it forriar

e prepared to say

The discussion ulTon Lord Morpeth's hill was then resumed
by Mr. BROTHERTON, who briefly contended that it'wou/d
give general satisfaction to the people of England and Ire-
land, and unite the two countries in a closer and better un-
derstanding than that which had heretofore prevailed
Mr. MILNES contended that the present bill had been
brought forward, nut with any hope or intention that it should
become law, but with some ulterior view, of which they were
at liberty to judge. If 'the noble lord .(Morpeth) really wished
to benefit Ireland the most efficient way of doing so would be
by the extension of that System of education which his noble
friend Lord Stanley had conferred upon that country.
Sir Was. SOMERVILLE in reply to the argument of Lord
Stanley that if this franchise was given to Ireland, it must be
extended to England also, observed that he had never heard
it urged as an objection to an English bill that its benefits
ought not to be givea to England, because they would, in
that case, be obliged to extend it to Ireland. • It the argu-
ment was good for anything, why was it that the principles of
the municipal bill for England had not been extended in as
full measure to Ireland. 'The bill of the noble lord the mem-
ber for North Lancashire would, in effect be a total denial of
the frpnchise to all but the wealthier classes of society, while
that of his noble friend Lord Morpeth would, wi hout ver
materially enlarging the franchise, give general s
He could not help remarkiug that the noble lord
upon his own showing, would enfranchise one class,
they were at the beck of their landlords, at the very moment
he was condemning the enfranchisement of another class, lest
they should be at the beck of their landlords.
. Mr. Sergeant JACKSON very warmly eulogised the speech
of Sir Wm. Follett, and said that he never was more sur-
prised than at hearing it replied to by the right hon. gentle-
man opposite (Mr. Macaulay), in a speech which he must
characterise as a mere piece of empty and frothy declama-
tion. He thought every man attached to a monarchical go-
vernment, and who was anxious to prevent its being
swamped. by the democracy of the country, was bound to
throw the bill of the noble Secretary for Ireland out of the
house upon that—its second reading.
Mr. SLANEY was of opinion that the £5 franchis,-

atisfaction
(StanleD

becage

00 low, but. still they ought to

go into committee, as the
principle was good, and, by mutual concession, they might
be enabled to adopt a proper amount of value upon which to
found their right of voting.

Mr. THESSIGER obsei:ved that, if the present bill were
defeated, it did not follow that the evils of the present sys-
tem of registration would not be corrected, for, in that
event, his noble friend (Lord Stanley) would pers-
his measure. It would be almost iniT,bo-:. '
was, ev"

ere with

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als that must hecessarily flow from the introduction of the
bill of the noble Secretary for Ireland. It could not fail to
raise expectations which could not be gratified, and a new
pretext had been given to Ireland for continuous agitation.
Mr. C. BULLER was satisfied that, however bad as might be
the bill of the noble lord (Stanley), it possessed the re-
deeming feature of having forced the government to bring in
a good one. The hon. gentleman endeavoured to show that
Lord Stanley, by his bill, did define the Irish franchise,
though by a very roundabout and in a very highly objection-
The noble lord would leave it to the judges to

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interest" qualification, it being a

y known that ten out cc

in favour of the solvent tenant" qualifi-
a would give the more restricted franchise. Thus
in effect he was giving to Ireland the '*-the solvent tenant"
franchise through the medium of the judges, instead of re-
sorting to the more legitimate mode of-deaning it by an
act of parliament. He was thus also exposing the judges to
the charge, which would be invariably made against them, of
being influenced by political bias. If, in consequence of the
defeat of the bill before the house, the government should
quit office, it would. be but a very short time before a very
liberal government indeed would be called into power. The
bill would be a banner under which the people would seek
to re-establish a liberal administration. The measure of the
noble lord (Stanley), he contended, was an attempt at a re-
trograde movement—to establish, in fact, the old Orange
ascendancy in Ireland. It. might be easy to pass one bill,
and to reject another, in the House of Peers ; and hon. mem-
bers on the opposition side were too much in the habit of
imagining that the matter was to be decided in that house

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cation, whict

by the result of a few elections, or by the balance of influence
in their favour do the night of a division; but the fact was
that this was a matter that might hare to be decided, not by
divisions, but by arms ; and lie would ask if their foreign
relations were in a position to render them careless of such
considerations: The hon. gentleman then adverted to the
temperance movement, and said that a people who could ex-
hibit such an instance of self-denial, must be eminently sus-
ceptible and highly organised, as they were by agitators of
ability, such as the worid rarely saw. Such t 4 people, so or-
ganised and so led, must be sufficiently losing to cause any
government to shrink from giving them just cause of dissa-
tisfaction. The hon. member for Dublin had taught a lesson
to the world—that the most successful insurrection, and the
most difficult to be dealt with, was that which was always to
e dreaded, but which never broke out. All these consider-
' —,,i-puded, pointed out the only safe course to be

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lat of conciliation.
GRAHAM said that the hon. and learned gen-
1, 'ked, at the commencement of his speech, of
his canuour, cud of the calmness with which he would argue
the question before the house, and he (Sir James Graham)
not a little curprised at some'of the topics
,ntroduced and dwelt upon. lie
on nor the patriotism. which cha-

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doubted if any'

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the 'Corn Exchange in English
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rightthose
hon.d gentleman
the Secretaay of War had described the bill of his noble
friend (Lord Stanley) as a childish production ,• but if he was
only to ask thenobie lord 'near him (Lord Morpeth), he
would tell him that it was a troublesome child to deal with—
that he had attempted last year to smother it, and had since
then thought to change it at nurse. If in any future debate
the right hon. gentleman would make a similar speech,
the c did would have an opportunity of replying,
he would
find that he could give harder hits than he expected, and that
his speeches contained semOhiat.more than glittering con-
ceits d impotent puerilities. "LW right hon. baronet pro.