The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1841-06-01 00:00:00

eentetuied that It Witiqterfactly aeozatutional that they 44114
retain power until they had appealed to the country ac to the
eound policy of the measures which they contemplated.
Lord SANDON thought that his hon. friend 111 r. Ingham,
in the course he was pursuing, was acting upon a subtlety of
reasoning which, however useful in the closet, lie would not
find advantageous in public life. He (Lord Sandon) had no
difficulty in the course he should pursue upon this question ;
for, in point of fact, lie had no confidence in any one measure
the ministry had ever brought forward.

Lord NIORPETH said tliat last sessions the ministry had
received a positive assurance. that it possessed the confidence
(1 the country. That assurance was carried by a majority
of twenty-one—and was, in his opinion, sufficient to justify
the government in not deeming the defeats they had sus-
tained, up to the division on the sugar duties, a sufficient
notice to quit. He admitted, however, that the division on
the sugar duties proved that the ministry had not a sufficient
degree of influence in that house to carry out the measures
they had proposed ; and that an alteration of some kind be-
came necessary. It was asked why, under such circum-
stanees, they had not at once resigned ; and he would show
that their holding office under such circumstances was not
without precedent. The noble lord then referred to former
cases in the reign of George the Third, in order to show that
it was quite justifiable and constitutional to retain power
until the sense of the country could be taken upon the mea-
sures of the government by means of a dissolution. _ _

Sir J: GICA II AM after observing that, in point of fact,

aittor at tit,: proposed duty or altopthey free, for, in both
cases, with gkood crops at home, the effect, as regards the ex-
tent of supply, would be the same (and I would here mention
that in'the last and present month large quantities of foreign
wheat Have been lately imported and entered for consumption
at Liverpool and elsewhere, paying a duty of 228.8 d. per quar-
ter, any leaving a fair profit to the importer)-1 ask those
persons, with the facts before them which I have just stated,
if they can believe that a continuous supply of foreign wheat,
sufficient to meet our exigencies, could be procured, and to i
he depended on, at moderate, much less low, prices ; that, if
such were to be the case, whether there is any good or satis-
factory reason to believe that the government or people of
those countries from which these supplies could only be, if
at all, drawn, would, in order to take our manufactures in
payment for their corn, abandon their own rising establish-
ments, which they have justly so much anxiety and strong
desire to protect, and thus desire to employ, as well as to
raise in the scale of society, and therefore to remunerate as
well as improve the comforts of their people, so rapidly in-
creasing in number ? If it is admitted, as 1 think it must be,
that there is no good ground to expect any such results, it
then follows that, if we are to abandon home production and
consequent home consumption of our manufactures by our
agricultural classes, we are to place ourselves in a state of
dependence on a supply of foreign wheat, I ask how is it to
be paid for ? It is evident that our stock of bullion is now
very moderate. Though no unusual drains, besides foreign
corn, have existed, the amount would soon be exhausted, and
I think I may say at the same thee our sources for further
supply curtailed, as these and other countries from which we
receive it look to us for a market to take off other produc-
tions of theirs which are mainly consumed by the landed in-
terests, whc would be seriously damaged, and their consump-
tion cut down by such changes, were they to be adopted.
If, then, we are to attempt to substitute the foreign for the
home grower—if the manufacturer is to be thus deprived of
his customers, for the vain hope of a vent for the goods, he
the home grower, would no longer consume, much less a more
considerable one being found elsewhere. If, then, we are to
place ourselves in a state of dependence for our bread on the
foreign grower, may we not reasonably expect that whenever
the foreigner finds we are in his hands he will avail himself of
it to exact from us very high, if not extravagant, prices,
which we could possess only limited means to pay ? Would
not the day then arrive for bitter repentance that we should
have so confided—that we should, with our eyes open, and
not without warnings, have given ourselves up to such vain
delusions, of which the consequences appear to me almost
too frightful to contemplate ; yet such is the precipice to the
front of which these free traders are now blindly leading us.
Let me again entreat the master manufacturers and their
people to consider well the position in which they are
placed—let them, if they will, think only of themselves,
distinct, if they please, from the other branches of the
community, and consider what a fate may be expected to
await them and their people, should they unite with and be
led away by these baneful declaimers, who call themselves
" Liberals, " but whose right name is " Destructives."
These men talk of free trade, of monopolies, and restric-
tions, without well knowing what they mean. In the ordi-
nary sense of the word we have had no monopolies since that
of the East India companyexpired; wholesome and necessary
protection we have for different vested national interests and
branches of our industry, both home and colonial, which past
experience have proved to be wise and just' in principle and
practice—therefore beneficial to the whole community. We
see such adopted and acted upon by all other nations, and
which may be expected to continue the case whilst common
sense continues to retain any influence over the actions of
civilised society. Let the manufacturer then look to himself
—let him weigh well his actual situation, and the immense
capital he has embarked in the undertakings—let him, before
it is too late, reflect on the fact that his trade has not been
falling off, but on the contrary, annually gradually increas-
ing in extent ; that notwithstanding he has gone on increas-
ing his production of goods in a greater degree than the
market will take off ; that his present difficulties, from want
of sales, and consequent depressed wages, are almost wholly,
or in a great degree, the result of over-production,
which unavoidably causes a glutted market and cautious
purchasers, looking constantly to lower prices, however low
those of the day may he, from which only heavy loss, if not
ultimate ruin can ensue. Even very cheap bread, could it be
procured, would not avail in such a state of things, be-
cause the artisan and labourer would be without employment,
or, if employed, at wages so wretchedly low, that he could
not afford to purchase it. Let the manufacturers ponder
well over these facts—let them throw the delusions of the free
traders and corn agitators overboard—let them restrict and
limit their production of goods to the legitimate demand for
them, and then, having the remedy for these evils in their
own hands, do justice to themselves and to others. In re-
sorting to this wholesome course, many of their people would
—in the first instance—be thrown idle; means for employing
a part must be found, without playing with edge tools; to
others temporary assistance may be given, and to such as
are disposed to embrace it, encouragement to emigrate
to our foreign possessions ought to be afforded. It is a case
of great emergency, an important crisis, and every good snb-
ject or citisen is called upon to put his band to the plough ;
in short, England expects every man to do his duty.
But whilst I thus advocate the necessity for combatting
the difficulties of the consumers of bread, I am also of opi-
nion that it is the duty of the corn grower to bear his part
of the burthen. His tithes and other burthens have been
commuted or diminished ; his systems of cultivation have
been greatly improved, particularly by bone dust and surface
drainage : his general expenditure has, therefore, been re-
duced ; and whilst I contend for the present (Mr. Husk-is-
son's) graduated scale as the best and most effectual system
that has yet been discovered for the protection of both grower
and consumer, I humbly think that it is the duty of the
legislature to reduce the pivot on that scale where importa-
tion of foreign wheat may be expected to commence,
considerably, perhaps eight shillings per' quarter, and
in proportion for other grain. Such a measure would lower
the future general prite in that proportion in ordinary sea-
sons, and with it I should hope all reasonable men would be
satisfied to make the experiment.—l am, sir, your constant
reader, JOHN GLADSTONE.
Carlton-gardens, May 26.

DESTRUCTIVE FIRE AT BIRMINGHAM.—At about half-
past five on Thursday evening, a fire broke out in Broad.
street, which at one time threatened the destruction of the
entire side of the street. The fire is said to have been caused
by the ignition of some shavings during the process of hoop-
ing a wheel on the premises of Mr. Iliffe, an extensive coach
manufacturer. Adjoining these premises is a large timber-
yard, in the occupation of Mr. Bolton, and in a short time
after the first discovery of the fire the whole yard was in-
volved in flames. Owing to the peculiar direction of the
wind, the houses in front of Broad-street, with but one ex-
ception, escaped; but the fire extendedlto the Baskerville
Flour Mills, Mr. Henley's Glass Cutting Manufactory, the
two former being entirely destroyed, including the whole
range of sheds belonging to Mr. Bolton. At the rear of
those buildings an arm of the Worcester Canal runs, from
which there was a plentiful supply of water. On the oppo-
site side of the canal stands the extensive building known as
Baskerville House, in the occupation of the Messrs. Att-
wood, metal rollers. The flames from the timber reached
the back of that building, and the whole of the window-_
frames were on fire, but happily further progress was arrested.
Under a shed on Mr. Bolton's premises were nearly 100
barrels of pitch, the whole of which was most fortunately
moved to the opposite side of the street. No idea can be
given of the probable amount of property destroyed ; the
whole of Mr. Bolton's was insured in the Birmingham Fire
Office, and it is said to he the heaviest loss that ccmpany ever
sustained. The fire was got under about ten o'clock. Seve-
ral persons met with injuries.

GRAND JUNCTION RAILWAY

I'he following are the Times of Departure from Lime-street,
Liverpool, and from Liverpool-road, Manchester :

TIMES OF DEPARTURE

FROM LIVERPOOL AND MANCHESTER TO BIRMINGHAM.
3 30 a.m. First Class, joins London Train at 8 30 a.m.
6 0 a.m. Mixed tt tt 12
8 15 a.m. First Class Pt P 1 13 p.m.
10 30 a.m. First Class 4 p.m.
4 p.m. Mixed
7 p.m. First Class „ 12
FROM BIRMINGHAM TO LIVERPOOL AND MANCHESTER.
2 15 a.m. First Class—Meets N. Union Train to Preston and
Lancaster at Parkside.
6 0 a.m. Mixed Train do. do. do.
11 30 a.m. First Class
2 45 p.m. First Class
2 45 p.m. First Class—Meets N. Union Train to Preston
at Parkside.

3 30 p.m*. Mixed
5 0 p.m. First Class
On Sunday the Departures will be
FROM LIVERPOOL AND MANCHESTER TO BIRMINGHAM,
3 30 a.m. First Class, joins London Train at 8 30 a.m.
8 15 a.m. Mixed t, 30 p.m.
10 30 a.m. ~
7 0 p.m. „ 9, 12
FROM BIRMINGHAM TO LIVERPOOL AND MANCHESTER
2 15 a.m. First Class
7 30 a.m. Mixed
11 30 a.m. „
245 p.m. „
The Trains on Sundays stop at First Class Stations only.

TO LONDON,
BY THE FOLLOWING TRAINS.
ON WESIE DAYS.
8 15 a.m. First Class Passengers, Carriages and Horses.
10 30 a.m. Ditto, Ditto.
7 o p.m. First Class Passengers only.
ON SUNDAYS.
8 15 a.m. First Class Passengers, Carriages and Horses
7 0 p.m. First Class Passengers only.

LIVERPOOL AND MA:`

CHESTER RAILWAY.

FROM L'POOL TO MANCIIRSTER. FROM MANCORSTP:R TO L'POOL.
First Class Second Class First Class Second Class
- Morning.. 7 o Morning - Morning.. 730 Morning
945 „ 9 0 , „ ..10 0 ~
li 45 „ 11 15 r, ••11 45 ~
I
2 30 Aftern. 2 0 Aftern. ..*2 45 Aftern.

845 „
11 0 „
2 0 Aftern

4 45 „ .. 5 30 „ 5 0 5 30 „
715 Evening.. 715 Mixedl 715 Evening.. 715 Mixed
Stop only at Newton & Prkside I Stop only at Newton & Prkside I
* Except on Saturdays, when this Train does not start till Three.
ON SUNDAYS
First Class Second Class
9 0 Morning.. 7 0 Morning
4 45 Aftern. .. 5 30 Aftern.
7 15 Evening.. 7 15 Mixed I
Stop only at Newton & Prkside I
TO PRESTON
FROM LIVERPOOL.
9 45 Morning.. Mixed
11 0 „ .. First Class
2 30 Aftern. ..Second Class
4 45 „ .. Mixed
7 14 „ .. First Class

7 0 Morning.... Mixed
445 Afternoon .. „
7 15 Evening.... First Class.
TO LAN

FROM LIVERPOOL.
8 45 Morning.... Mixed
11 0 .... First Class
2 30 Afternoon .. Second Class
4 45 „ .... Mixed
TO BO

FROM LIVERPOOL.
g 45 Morning.... First Class
11 0 „ .... ,
30 Afternoon .. Second Class
5 30

ON SU:
7 0 Morning.... Second Class
5 30 Afternoon .. „
TO ST. I-

First Class Second Class
8 0 Morning.. 7 o Mornin
5 0 Aftern. .. 5 30 Aftern.
7 15 Evening.. 7 15 Mixed I
Stop only at Newton & Prkside
AND WIGAN.
FROM MANCHESTER.
g 0 Morning.. Mixed
11 is „ .. First Class
2 45 Aftern. .. Second Class
5 0 „ .. Mixed
7 is .. First Class

7 o Morning.... Mixed
5 o Afternoon
7 15 Evening.... First Class
CASTER.

FROM MANCHESTER.
g 0 Morning.... Mixed
11 15 „ .... First Class
2 45 Aftenioon .. Second Class
5 0 ~ •• • • Mixed
LTON•

PROM LIVERPOOL.
7 0 Morning.— Second Class
y 45 91
11 45 „ .... ~
2 30 Afternoon.. ~

-
FROIII
9 0 Morning.... First Class
11 15 ~ ••..
2 45 Afternoon .. Second Class
5 30 lf • • • • ~

nAYs•
7 0 Morning— Second Class
5 30 Afternoon
ELENS.

IMOSI AfANCIIENTER.
7 30 Morning.... Second Class
10 0 •• • • OP
11 45 • • •
2 45 Afternoon ..
5 30 • • • •

BIRKENHEAD AND CHESTER RAILWAY

(FROM GEORGE'S PIER HEAD.)
Morning 8 0 .. 10 0 .. 12 0 I Afternoon 2 0 .. 4 0 .. 6 0
FROM CHESTER TO BIRKENHEAD.
Morning 816..1030.. 12 IS I .Afternoon 213 415 is
ON SUNDAYS.—FROM GEORGE'S PIER HEAD.
Morning g 0 I Afternoon 4 45

FROM CHESTER TO BIRKENHEAD
Morning g 15 1 Afternoon 6 0

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CHESTER AND CREWE BRANCH.
FROM CHESTED•
11 30 a.m. First Class, to meet 10 30 a.m. Train from Liverpool

and Manchester.
8 0 p.m. Mixed, to meet 330 p.m. Train from Birmingham and
4 0 p.m. Trains from Liverpool and Manchester.
FROM CREWE.
9 0 a.m. Mixed, ou arrival of 6 a.m. Train train Liverpool,

Manchester, and Birmingham.
0 p.m. First Class, on arrival of 11 SO a.m. Train from BIZ.
mingharn.
There will be no Trains on Sunday Until further ■Otee.

Ann Lockerby, , hence for Calcutta, was spoken 20th
April, in lat. 3 N, long. 20 W
Woodman, Good, sailed from St. Helena for Liverpool 2nd April
Marquis Wellesley, Laing, from Sierra Leone for Liverpool, at
the Cove ; sailed 31st March. The Calista sailed for London 24th
March, sprung a leak and was abandoned on the 26th March. On
the 28th March the derelict was seen aground on the Scarcie's
Bunk, plundered of every thing moveable
Carron, Potter, sailed film Marseilles for Liverpool 20th May
Packet, Milligan, hence at Swinnemunde •
Rosehill, --, from Dunkirk, is on shore on the North Bank

SUNDAY, MAY 30.—Wind N.N.E. light

ARRIVED.—Mina, Harry, and Faith. Beer, from Lisbon—Maid of
Athens, Bonfellow, from Odessa—Francis Drake, Benter, from
Stettin—Amalia, Albrecht, from Danzic—Rosehill, Robinson, from
Dunkirk—Concordia, Ethics, from Dordt—Jupiter, from
Ostend—John Bolton, Teulon, from Mobile—and Capricoin, Car-
thoy, from Savanilla.

SAILED.—EIiza, Seeds, for Campeachy—Jonathan Fell, Tate, for
Montreal—George Glen, M'Bride, for Quebec—Crescent, Rider, for
Adra—Atalanta, Wheeler, for Stettin—Pet, Bulkely, for Beirout.
Alexandria and Malta—Catharine, Lelean, for Dunkirk—and
Martha, Williams, for Naples.

Empress, Scott, from Jamaica, at this port; sailed from Montego
Bay 2ud April. On 22nd May, in lat. 51, long. 10. spoke the La-
vinia. On gth May, in lat. 47, long. 45, spoke the Hope, from
Liverpool. On 23rd May, in lat. 51, long. g, spoke the Queen,
from Liverpool
Eliza, Grange, from Monte Video, off the Cove, and proceeded
for Liverpool. On 26th May, spoke the Rankin, Moor, from
Hobart Town for Liverpool

Camilla, Hain, henciat Zwolle
Cherokee, M'Kellar, anti Iron Duke, Jeffries, sailed from St. He.
lena for Liverpool sth April
Magnificent, from Savannah, off Kinsale
Cova, May 23.—The Jubilee, Anderson, hence for Liverpool, has
put back with loss of mainmast, mizentopmast, jibboom, &c.
having been struck by lightning, off Waterford, yesterday.

MONDAY, MAY 31.—Wind N.N.W. light.
SA I LED.—Pollock, Purdon, and Superb, Hamilton, for Dalhousie
—and Eutau, Rockett, for New York.

Victoria, , and Wilberforce, Harrison, hence at Maranham
Lee, 13owness, hence and Jamaica, at Santa Martha
Pidgeon, Hiscock, and Desire, Stabb, hence at Gibraltar
Empreza, Pestana, hence at Lisbon
ltestauracuo, France, sailed from Lisbon 22nd, and Tarujo 2do,
Palha, 23rd, both for Liverpool
Jessie Logan, Major, from Calcutta, at the Cove

Danson, Price, from Manilla, at ditto; sailed 22nd Dec. On 16th
instant, in lat. 42, long. 25, spoke the Grenada, from Calcutta to
the Clyde
Lapwing Packet, from the West Indies, off Falmouth

Ileyworth, Dunlop, from Demerara, at Clyde
LISBON, May 24.—H.M.5. Espoir, and two small Portuguese
vessel of War, have been seet out of this port in search of the
steamer seen by the Conde ee Palma.