The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-11-04 00:00:00

EV. M. O'SULLIVAN AND MR. O'CONNENL.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SCOTSMAN.
Killyman Rectory, May, Oct. 27, 1836.
Sts,—You have given insertion to a letter from Mr. O'Con-
nell, which contains the following passacres:—
" The Morning ChroniOle, which reached me this day; of the
date of the 10th instant, contains an extract from a Scotch pa-
per, giving a report Of it speech of a person who styles himself
the Rev, Mortimer O'Sultivan. In that speech there is the ful-

lowing passage :
" Remember that this is Mr. O'Connell's account—that it is
essential to the Catholic faith to believe it right to murder or to

bieak faith with heretics.' .
"'That passage, then, I iii4clairri tohe in all its parts totally
it is false that I ever gave any. -such account, neither did
ever say or do anything to qualify or palliate the attributing

" Lot me conclo.de with offering this test. This Mr. O'Sul-
livan say's, "rhis is Mr. O'Connell's account?' When? Where?
Hovv ilia Mr. O'Connell give that account, or say anything to
countenance the assertion ? Let him answer that question.

" If lie do not answer it, he thereby-admits that he is S ca-
lumniator and propagatot of falsehood. If he do answer it, I
will have the means of preying him such."
Such is Mr. O'Connell's eliarge againetsme, and such his de-
mand. As yiin have published. theM in your journal, I will not
allow myself to doubt your willingliess to admit my answer also.
The passage in the repoit of my speech, of which Mr. O'Con-
nell quoted a mutilated extract, is as follows:
" I have said that the Church of Rome, when she wanted to
corrupt the minds of the English people, sent into England
God's Holy Gestic! to teach that lessore•which God's enemy is
ever endeavouring to teach—to teach the principle (and:re-
member that this is Mr.O'Conneil's account) that it is essential
to the catholic faith to believe it right to Murder or break faith
with heretics."
Such is the passage from which Mr. O'Connell's extract has
been quoted. It contains a referenee to very grave • charges
against the Church of Rome, and names Mr. O'Connell as a
witness, by whom they are corroborated; I proceed to show on
what authority. The charges which I preferred against the
Church of Rome on account of the publication of tbo Rhemish
Testament were two— -
Ist. That the notes appended to it were intended to excite dis-
affection in England. •
2d. That they were calculated to teach perfidy and intole-
rance.
Mr. O'Connell has testified to the truth of both. 1 cite the.
acknowledgments contained iu the Dublin Review, of which he
is avowedly an editor.
The first charge is thus confirmed—.
" The notes of the New Testathent were undoubtedly in-
tended to prepare the public mind fear the invasion meditated by
Philip 11., when he projected the schemes of his armada. They
were in unison with the celebrated sentence and declaration of
Popo Sextus Quintos, which designated Elisabeth as an illegi-
timate daughter of Henry Vlll.—at an usurper and unjust
ruler, who ought to be deposed—and as a heretic and schisma-
tic, whom it was not only lawful, but commendable to destroy."
—Dublin Review, edited -by the Very Rev. N. Wiseman;D.
O'Connell, and M. J. Quin,Esq. No. 11., p. 505.
So much fur the design of the Rheimish notes. What is their
character ?
To this question we have, also, Mr. O'Connell's answer, con-
firming the second accusation against his church. "The topic
of the Ithennish notes was incidentally brought under their
(Catholic Board's) consideration by Mr. O'Connell, on the 3d
of December," (1817) when he is reported by the Dublin Even-
ing Post to have spoken of these compositions in the following
terms:—
" He owed it to his religion, as a catholic and a christian—td
his country as an Irishman—to his feelings as a human being—
to utterly denounce the damnable doctrines contained in the
notes to the Rheimish Testament. He was a catholic upon
principle—a steadfast and sincere catholic, from a conviction
that it was the best form of religion ; but he would not remain
so one hour longer, if he thought it essential to the profession of
the catholic faith to believe that it was lawful to murder pro-
testants, or that faith might be innocently broken with heretics.
Yet such were the doctrines laid down in notes to the Rheimish
Testament.—Dublisi Review, No. 11., p. 516.
Such is Mr. O'Connell's character of the Rheimish annota
tions. The result of his unsuccessful effort to produce a dis-
claimer of them, might not uncharitably be adduced as indicativ
the character of his church. The "Catholic Board" refused to
disavow them, adopting, as an amendment to Mr. O'Connell's
motion for a disclaimer, "That a committee be appointed to
prepare an address on the occasion of the re-publication of the
Rheiinish notes, with a view to have the same submitted to an
aggregate meeting."—Dublin Evening Post,. Dec. 6, 1817. The
Roman Catholic Bishops declined to disavow them, Dr. Troy,
in order to avert Protestant indignation (as Mr. Coyne testifies)
prohibiting them in the diocese of Dublin, while his ecclesias-
tical brethren recommeded them to their " subjects" in every
other part of Ireland—so unavailing were Mr: O'Connell's ert-
deayours—so uncousequential his quarrel with the instruments
for teaching "damnable" doctrine. The Church of Rome has
neither renounced the Rheimish ides, nor forfeited Mr.
O'Connell's allegiance. Ido not inquire why. It is sufficient
for the present to have answered the questions proposed to me,
and to leave with my accuser to decide upon the manner, whe,
ther in silence or in storm, iu which he will make confession of
having done me wrong.
I have but one further charge to answer. Mr. O'Connell
complains that I do not take the doctrine of his Church from his
" catechisms and books of instruction." It is from such books
only that have sought information ; but I have sought it from
books of authority. As to those catechisms to which reference
is most frequently made, I set little value upon them; first, be-
cause Dr. Doyle disparaged them, affirming that " printers in
country towns print them off. syithout. consulting us at all,"
(J. K. L., 1835;) and secondly, because I cannot ascertain the
sense in which they are understood by individuals who haYe
sworn the " qualification oath" taken by Roman Catholics, and
who can conscientiously act as if it imposed no restraint upon
them. When Protestants are enabled to understand how the
church of Rome interprets that oath, they may seek informa.
'ion in the " catechisms."
I am, sir, your obedient servant,
MORTIM ER O'SULLIVAN:

The King has been pleased to appoint the Lord John Fre-
derick Gordon one of the Lords of his Majesty's Bedchamber,
in the room of the Lord Elphinstone, resigned.

In a grande battue last. week, on the preserves of Lord Mos-
tyu, at Pengwern, Fiiutshire, nearly. 500 head of game were
killed.
In the garden of the Duke of Bedford, at Woburn, are culti-
vated no fewer than 6,000 ornamental plants; forcing houses
on an extensive scale, under the direction of Mr. Forbes, have
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been.. constructed at 'Woburn.
The King has been graciously pleased to approve of Mr.
Jacques Galleano, as Vice-consul at Gibraltar for the King of
Greece.
The King has also been graciously pleased to approve of Mr.
Thomas Hughes. Jun., as Consul at Liverpool fur the Oriental
Republic of the Uruguay.
s , Theo f cost
which i
300 s estimateda refree .
_a t
the sole cost of the Rev. J. T. Nottidge, the Rector, was con-
secratedhe Lord Bishop of Sailor and Man, in
The new church erected in St. Clement's parish, Ipswich, at
last week by t
addressed to the present
tx.hwooe p r e. s e
Intc et:
contains taa largell
Norfolk Chronicle.
Lord
Chancellor,v was accidentally found, sealed with shoe-
ab:u°tn g7sreUgsaittitiung
shoe-
maker's wax, village in the
at a northern part of this county:—
"the I Loard Chancier, Luonclun."
The following precious composition,
•
ii foe 1 right theaslines to you my Loaid chancier. dare is a
ert in charm] y be Lougen to the lamely
prop ayeney (Ayscough.)
I am the rite are to Lady ayescut, and the are to sir edwed,
ayescut sough kellscey (South Kelsey.) I shad which rite to
me a gean. upon subjekt.--Thon ayeseu, North kellacey, near
Brigh. '—Lincoln Gazette.
EARL FITZWILLIAAI.—At the dinner given last. week at Peter-
borough to commemorate Viscount Milton's coming of age, the
gentleman who presided stated some instances of the liberality
and benevolence of the noble earl, known but to a very few per-
sons. He stated that his lordship had given ElOOO towards re-
pairing the parish church of Peterborough; £3OO towards de-
cor
ating the interior of the cathedral; as also large sums to the
lufant Schools. It was added that the noble earl had also, with
the utmost privacy, allowed £2OOO a year to the Late Mr:Wil-
berforce during the latter part of that excellent gentleman's
life, to avert the distress arising from his pecuniary.embarrass-
, meats, brought on by the misconduct of a near relative.

RAILROADS LIABLE FOR PARISH Wuras.--On Saturday
the 22d, at the 'Kingston Quarter Sessions a case of some im-
portance connected with railroads, was decided by the court.
The London and Greenwich ItailWay Company appealed
against a rate made upon them by St. Olive's parish, on the
ground that the land which was rater{ was not beneficially occe-
pied by them, and that one portion of it had actually been dis-
posed of by them. The court held that when houses and rateable
property were demolished for the purpose of a railroad the com-
pany was bound to pay the amount of rates thus lost to the
parish, whether they made use of the ground on which the
houses etuod or not.
A HINT TO THE WORKING CLASSES.—If a man at twenty-,
one years of age, began to save four shillings a week, and put
it to interest every year, he would have— •
At 31 years :of age £l 15 li
30
At '4l.
At 51
61
At 5 21
At 71
When we look at. these sums,. and. when we think how much
teptation and evil might be avoided in the verr act of saving
them, and how much good a man in bumble circumstances may
do for his family by those sums, we cannot help. wondering that
there are not more savers of four shillings a week. He who
u se ,
hoank Ts
pheuair• se-,
saves this sum may not only pay his own way, but he may help
To vari ot s
thousandsbenevolentthis societies.
world,
and ln
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the afflicted, and subscribe
The King had
or SHAKSPEARE.—Dr Cartop
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1 daiNs• itral ttiva el
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the Western Literary lostilution, Leicester-
square.
on an elevation 200 feet
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stated al them
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Colossal. STATUE
consented to be the patron, and the Queen the Patroness ofhad
consented this
above the level of the names. t
plan- The statue was to be raised
rile pedestal
toreteragteisotusttoatmueakeev.eorners
and the statue 80 feet high. It wk was to be 60 feet,
should be a staircase by which the " " projected that there
crown of Shakspearei head; that curious may ascend to the
the statue :a house, a
.Ae ' lat there should be built near
Shakspeare was b simile of that, in Which it is as-
sumedwho should be engaged horn, for the residence of the person
dence should be allotted to show the siatue; and that such resi-
dence
.• to a female descendant of a sister of
Shakspeare, now alive, I
stances, and who should' but who was• in very bumble circuits-
fromshowing also derive any benefit that might accrue
the statue. He further
pence would be £20,000, to b mentioned that the ex-.
e raisers by subscription, but that
no one was to subscribe snore than one guinea. The doctor did
not mention when the and calculator
projectors s expected that
thisizol • l • .
OSSa statue might be completed.---.Btatuiarda