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HOUSE OF L.3.—MONDAY. •
In the House of Lords the Greek lean bill, and the militia
pay bifi, were severally read a second time, and the medical
witnesses bill was reada third time and passed.
The reasons of the commons for disagreeing to that amend-
ment of the lords in the prisoners' counsel bill, which removed
from the bill the clause enacting, that the party accused shall,
in every case, have the last word, were commenicated at a con-
ference. and order,' to he taken into consideration.
Mr. Bernal, and others from the commons, brought up the
poor law loan bill, the municipal elections bill, and the tithes
composition (Ireland) bill, which were severally read a first
time.
On the motion of Lord MELBOURNE, the commons' amend-
ments in the marriages hill, and the registration of births, &c.,
bill were taken into consideration and agreed to.
The staveowners' compensation bilk, and the slave treaties
bill, several:y went through committee.
On the report of the church temporalities (Ireland) bill be-
ing brought up, Lord LANSDOWNE moved two amendments,
which were agreed to, and the bill was ordered to be read a
third time on 'Tuesday.
CORPORATE?. PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL.
Viscount MeLaocaNE, in moving the second reading of the
corporate property (Ireland) bill, made a few observations
across the table, which were all but wholly inaudible. We un-
derstood the noble viscount to say that the main objects of the
bill were to restrain the corporations in Ireland from any aliena-
tion of the corporate property, or the exercise of any patronage
they might possess, until parliament should have legislated-on
the subject.
The Duke of WELLINGTON declared that he never could
consent to be a party to the statements contained in the pre-
amble of this bill. There were points also in the enacting
clauses to which he most decidedly objected, but he could not
allow even this stage of the bill to pass without expressing his
entire dissent from the statements contained in the preamble,
since he considered the measure both unprecedented and con-
trary to justice.
Viscount MELBOURNE observed that the bill merely went to
provide a remedy for the loss of the municipal corporations
(Ireland) bill; and, with regard to the preamble so much ob-
jeeted to, it merely recited facts. He would read it :
" Whereas it is fitting and expedient that provision should be
made forthwith against the wasting of the estates of corporate
towns in Ireland, their corruption and abuses, until such time
as parliament shall provide a remedy."
Lord LYNDHURST begged to say that he, for one, had never
admitted the existence either of corruption or abuse in the cor-
porate bodies of Ireland. The grounds upon which hecontend-
ed for their extinction was, that they were administered on
party principles. (Hear, hear.) As to corruption and abuse,
they never had been admitted by noble lords on his side of the
house. On the contrary, they had stated that they had no evi-
dence of any such corruption or abuse on which they ought to
act. It appeared to him that this was a most extraordinary
bill, even independent of the terms of the preamble. He did
not mean to say that he opposed the second reading of the bill,
bui:. the objectionable parts of the preamble must be struck out,
and the clauses remodelled in committee. The bill comprised
only one page, and was the most singular specimen of legisla-
tion ever sent to that house of parliament.
The Earl of FA LmouTH protested againstthe use of the words
" corruption and abuse," contained in the preamble of the bill,
on no better evidence than the report of the commissioners.
He never could suffer a bill of this nature to pass, lie never
could sanction so abominable an assumption of facts as the pre-
amble of this bill set forth. (Hear.)
Lord HOLLAND said, the house had had some experience of
what the noble and learned lord (Lyndhurst) meant by re-
modelling a bill. (" Hear," and a laugh.) The noble and
learned lord had not spared the ruffian bill, as the Irish corpo-
ration bill had been termed; and now he was about to embrue
his hands in the blood of this little infant measure, which was,
in fact, a child of his own. (" Hear," and laughter.) It ap-
peared to him that the noble and learned lord seemed to want
to disgust the people and indispose them to that house ; the
people would say—" That cruel tyrant who has done away with
so many of our bills is now diverting himself with killing a fly."
(Great laughter.) After he had washed his hands in the blood
of so many important bills, he had now come to destroy this
little bill. (Laughter and " No.") Why, the noble lord said
he would do so in committee. Indeed, noble lords on his (Lord
Holland's) side of the house had nothing to do but to lament
over the destruction of the bills which had been brought into
house this session. If the noble and learned lord vies sincere
in his views, if this bill was such as would disgrace the statute-
book,
why attempt to new model it in committee ? Why did
not the noble and learned lord vote against its second reading ?
(Hear:)_

Lord Lv NDHURST said, that really there was no pleasing the
noble baron who had just sat down. If noble lords on his (Lord
Lyndhurst's) side of the house objected to the second reading
of a bill, his cry was, " Read the bill a second time, and go
into committee ;" if, on the other hand, they should read the
bill a second time and go into committee, that course was ob-
jected to. The noble baron had expressed some alarm that this
bill should be altered, it was so small; it was an insect to be
sure, but then it had a poisonous tooth, and he wished to go into
committee, in order to take away its poisonous power. (Hear.)
As to the remark that we (continued the noble and learned
lord) shall disgust the country. and indispose the people to-
wards this house, because we will not agree to measures unjust
in character—to bills which, in their very preambles, are libels
on his Majesty's subjects—bills which are inefficient in some of
their clauses, unnecessary, unjust, and atrocious in others, I
aro sure that we shall not offend or displease the people of
England, if in the discharge of our duty as legislators we watch
over every bill that is sent up to this house, and do not send
out any bill of which we do not approve conscientiously, and
which we believe is not consonant with the principles of the laws
and constitution of this country. lam sure the course we are
pursuing is much more likely to recommend this house to the
country than til,; careless course of legislation recommended by
the noble baron. (Cheers.)
Lord EL LENBOROUG II said, that he and his noble friends on
his side of the house did not wish to protect abuses or to prevent
their extinction; on the contrary, they had shown by the amend-
ments of last year, in which the souse of Commons did not
think proper to acquiesce, that their object was to remove the
abuses which realty existed. At the same time he and his no-
ble friends could not agree with the preamble of the bill im-
pugning, as it did so unjustly, the corporations alluded to; and
though they might agree to the second reading, that would not.
deprive them of the right of altering such of the details of the
bill as might appear to be objectionable.
The bill was then read a second time.

Lord Morpeth and others from the Commons brought up the
Jewish Di.•abilities Rill, the Pensions Duties Bill, the Tithe
Compoition (Ireland) Bill, and the Valuation of Lands (Ire-
land) Bill.
The Common Fields Enclosure Bill was reported, and or-
dered to be read a third time on Tuesday.
The house was then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MoNutY.

In the House of Commons a new writ was ordered for the
borough of Warwick, in the roma of Sir C Greville, who has
accepted the Chiltern Hundreds.
Lord MORPETH having moved the order of the day for the
consideration of the lords' amendments to the Grand Juries
(Ireland) Bill, said, that as the amendments made by the lords
could not, conformably with the practice of that house, be ac-
cepted, he would propose, with a view to satisfy the house, and
that a measure much wanted should not he lost, to withdraw the
present bill, and immediately after to introduce a new bill em-
bodying the lords' amendments, and to which, of course, there
would be no opposition in either house The motion for laying
aside the original bill was then put and carried. Lord Slor-
peth having then obtained leave to bring in a new bill embo-
dying the lords' amendments, the noble lord introduced it
shortly after. It was read a first time, and ordered to be read
a second time on Tuesday.

The SoLiciTon-GENaA. L moved the first reading of a bill to
extend the power of the Chief Baron to appoint another baron
to sit for him in equity. The bill was read a first time, and or-
dered to be read a second time on Tuesday.
VF..,The boroughs justice administration bill, the boroughs boun-
daries bill, and the boroughs funds bill, were severally read a
second time, and ordered to be committed, after a short con-
versation. _ .

The Earl of LINCOLN said he must call the attention of the
house to the mode in which this and other bills were conducted.
In their case the march of legislation was rapid enough, for,
without having been really read a first time on Saturday, the
second reading of them was now proposed by the learned gen-
tleman. The learned gentleman was not present on Saturday
when these bills were said to have been read a first time, and he
(the Earl of Lincoln) was sure that no hon. member would have
been a party to a proceeding that was a fraud on the house, and
an insult to its members. It was true that these bills were ap-
parently read a first time on Saturday—that was to say, they
went through the usual form of having their titles read; but
when some hon. members went to examine their contents, they
found that three blank sheets of parchment had been laid on
the table, containing nothing whatever but the titles of the
bills on the outside. This case was an unprecedented one, and
h would appeal to the chair for its opinion on the point.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said, that he would how with de-
ference to the decision of the chair, hut he would remind the
noble lord that the entry on the journals, that these bills had
been read a second time, was a document that could not after-
wards be called in question.
The SPEAKER said, that there could be no doubt that a copy
of the bill on parchment should be on the table of the house
when the first reading of it was moved.
The pensions duties bill was read a third time and passed,
the clause exempting the pension of the Duke of Marlborough
from the operation of the bill having been struck out by a ma-
jority of 36 to 34.
The public works (Ireland) bill went through committee, and
was ordered to he leported to-day.
The third reading of the Jewish disabilities bill was carried
on a division by 44 to 13.
The house was again counted out during a discussion on the
bribery at elections bill.

HOUSE OF LOIWS.—TUESDAY.
Lord DUNCANNON moved the second reading of the civil
offices' declaration bill.
The Duke of WELLINGTON, after expressing his astonish-
ment that a bill of so much importance, and which affected a
great principle, should have passed the House of Commons with
scarcely any observation, would not consent, at this late period
of the session, to proceed with the measure. He moved, "That
the bill be read a second time this day three months."
Lord BITE, though not opposed to the principle of this par-
ticular bill, yet with reference to the mode of doing business,
observed, with great force and justice, that the House of Lords
would consult the advantage of the country if they rejected
many other bills which had been sent up to them, in order to
correct the present practice of sending up a number of impor-
tant bills at a period of the session when it was impossible to
give them mature consideration. Here were a parcel of bills
laid on their lordships' table in the middle of August, when, as
he had said, it was impossible to have them discussed with ad-
vantage. Such a system would, however, he had no doubt,
effect its own cure.
. The bill was then thrown out by a majority of 16.
The Grand Jury Presentment (Ireland) Bill, the Borough
Justice Administration Bill, the Borough Boundaries Bill, the
List of Voters Bill, and the Borough Fund Bill, were brought
up from the commons and read a first time, ordered to be printed,
and read a second time to-morrow.
Their lordships then adjourned, at 9 o'clock.