The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1838-05-04 00:00:00

POSTOFF ICE REFORM.

The report of the postoflice committee, which had been
printed and circulated, was adopted, and referred back to the
commit tee

Mr. MSDEN said that report merely affected the local post-
office of Liverpool, and not the general question of posloffice
reform.
The MAYOR said, of course if the committee had any thing
further to suggest it would be referred to the council.

WATER TROUGHS FOR CATTLE.
Mr. Councillor PLATT rose and said, the measure for water-
troughs for cattle had undergone much consideration from him,
and, he was convinced it would be a measure of great utility
to that useful class of people; he alluded to horses and cattle.
(Laughter.) He thought the expense of their erection would
be but trifling. Mr. Platt proceeded to advocate the erection
of these troughs at the south end of the town, and proposed that
a small toll should be levied on. those who used them, which he
said would more than defray their cost. He then proceeded to
"plead" as he said " for those animals (horses and cattle) be-
cause they could not plead for themselves. (Laughter.) They
were all ready to like a piece of beef—(" horse beet" and loud
laughter)—and all ready to avail themselves of their services
when it served their interest. Any person going to the back
of Brunswick St., would see there what rows of animals there
were—fine horses in carts, and donkeys—(loud laughter)—and
drivers. (Continued laughter.) '1 hey. might laugh, but a
drink of water would be very acceptible among them—("don-
keys and all," "he-ho," and loud laughter.) • 'The expense of
each trough would not exceed £65, and they might be kept up
afterwards for £l5 per annum each, lie hoped therefore that
they would be granted.
Mr. Councillor COOPER had great pleasure in seconding the
motion. it would be a great comfort to those animals if it was
adopted.
Mr. Councillor Joans tsr advocated the measure. He spoke
of the leilgth of time the horses were obliged sometimes to
work without water, and hoped the measure would be granted:
Mr Councillor DUNCAN opposed 'the motion on principle.
The owners of the horses were well able to provide them drink
and food themselves without applying to them for it.
Mr. Councillor JORDAN begged to ask if the north end of the
town were not supplied with tanks? (Mr. Coglan—Yes.)
Then why not the south.
Mr. Councillor COOLAN with many flowers of rhetoric, sup-
ported the motion which Mr. Platt had so argumentively put to
the council, and concluded with " hoping and trusting," that
the interests of humanity would induce them to subscribe to
the measure.

Mr. DUNCAN'S amendment was not seconded, and Mr. Platt's
,motion was consequently carried, that the waler troughs be
adopted.

REMOVAL OF THE STAMP-OFFICE.
The MAYOR stated that he had received a letter on this sub-
ject from Mr. Spearman, which he read as follows:
" Treasury Chambers, 30th April, 1838.
" SIR,—[laving laid before the lords commissioners of her
Majesty's Treasury a resolution -adopted by the council of the
borough of Liverpool, respecting the proposed removal of the
Stamp,office to the Custom-house, which was transmitted in
your letter of the 7th of February, 1 have it in command from
their lordships to inform you, that upon a full consideration of
the subject, and a communication with the commissioners of
stamps and taxes, my lords do not consider it advisable to give
clirections for the removal of the Staanp-ofliee at Liverpool from
its present situation.-1 am, sir, your obedient servant,
" A. G. SPEARMAN.

" To the Mayor of Liverpool."
The MAyosi then said, perhaps they would like it to be re-
ferred back to the committee, for it was distinctly in opposition
to-the understood agreement on which the corporation bad ex-
pended so large a suns of money.
The subject was referred back to the Custom-house committee
accordingly.

KING' LEG flig-
• The MAYOR next informedS theCOI counffl that Mr. Benson had
applied for a nomination to King's College, and he found on
enquiry they bad ten nominations—five to the upper and five to
the lower departments. The corporation having voted £5OO
some years ago, they became entitled to the nominations; and
he would be glad to know how they would have them appropri-
ated. (Loud cries of "By the council.") The Mayor said he
thought they would find some inconvenience attending that
course. His worship afterwards added that the application for
a nomination from Mr. Benson had led to inquiries on the
subject, and the following was the reply:—
" " King's College, London, 27tH April, 1838.
SIR,-In answer to the inquiry contained iu your letter of
the 25th instant, I ha' e satisfaction in acquainting you that the
corporation of Liverpool are entitled to nominations of pupils
or students in this establishment, namely, to five in the higher,
or the medical, and five in the junior department ;:or to ten ,
in the latter, the junior department; and to this extent the sig-
nature of the mayor for the time being will always be recog-
nised. I accordingly do myself the pleasure of enclosing some
nomination and other papers : and I have the honour to remain,
" Sir,
" Your very obedient servant,
" H. SMITH, Secretary.
" G. W. Crooke, Esq., Town-hall, Liverpool."
Mr. BOLTON thought it would be better, when applications
were made, to give notice to the council.
Mr. Alderman Hour moved that the Mayor's present appli-
cation be granted, which was seconded by Mr. Moms LAW-
RENCE.

Mr• Councillor COGLAN oppose(' it. on. the. groupd that, it
would savour of favouritism. All applications ought •to be
placed on the same fooling.
Mr. Councillor Cuuu E said that the subscription had been
made souse ten years ago, but from that time to this no applica-
tion had been made for a nomination. It would be as well that
the privilege were made known.
Mr. -Alderman LuArsiom enquired what privileges the
parties nominated had.

The Macon said they were admitted on cheaper term.
Perhaps the. best •plan would be to refer it to the Education
Committee to make a' report ?
Mr. Councillor EVANS asked 'whether, as the privilege of no-
minating would he of little service here, while it would be ad-
vantageous in London, it would be contrary to the dignity of
the council ;o dispose of their right.
'The MA voR said if it were of little value here, it might be a
matter of discussion whether they should not get the value for
it.
The matter was referred to the Education Committee to re-
Tot t upon the advantages of the course of instruction.
SOUTHERN AN T,IXTETH HOSPITAL.
The MA Yon said he had received 'a memorial on this subject,
which was read as follows :
" To• the Worshipful the Alavor, Aldermenlikind Common-
council of the Borough of Liverpool.
" The Memorial of the Committee of the Southern and Toxieth

Hoapilul.

" Showeth,
" That on the Bth of February last several gentlemen, being
desirous to establish an hospital in the southern part of the town,
held a meeting at the Clarendon Rooms, when a resolution was
unanimously adopted to the effect ' that the extension of the
docks, the great increase of the population, and the distance of
the lufirmary, rendered it expedient to establish an hospital at
the south end of the town.
"That an appeal was subsequenfly made to the public for the
means of promoting that desirable object, which they have the
gratification of stating was most satisfactorily responded to; the
aniountof donations and subscriptions being £2OOO and upwards.
" That your memorialists, being of opinion that the Town-
council are empowered, under the municipal act, to appropriate
land to charitable purposes, beg lespectfully to apply to you
fur a portion of land, agreeably to the annexed plan, for the
purpose of erecting a suitable building thereon. The necessity
for this hospital has been very generally acknowledged, and
your memorialists trust its object will powerfully plead with the
council, and induce them to comply with the views and wishes
of your memorialists: the pressing want of such an institution
in that very populous neighbourhood, and the frequent occur-
rence of casualties requiring the promptest attention, are
grounds which your memorialists feel fully assured would jus-
tify the Town-council in the opinion of the public in according
to this request, and would be ever. gratefully acknowledged by
your memorialists.
" On behalf of the committee,
- ' " AMBRosE LACE, Chairman."
Mr. PLATT, at some length supported the prayer of the me-
morial, urging strongly its necessity in the neighbourhood to
which the memorial referred. Ile also added that nearly
£2050. was already subscribed, and if the council complied with
the wishes of the memorialists he doubted not they would be ena-
bled to erect such a building as would be a credit to the town.
Mr, Councillor Lasser. enquired if it was in order to make
long speeches in presenting memorials? lie had hada memorial
to present for the last six weeks, which he had not the op
iportu-
' nity of presenting, and if the discussions were prolonged n this
way he should not be able to present it at this council.
'the memorial was referred to the town-clerk to report
. ,
thereon.
MEMORIALS.
The MAYOR then read the memorial of Peter Cunliffe, for
compensation for being turned out of a cellar in Canning-place,
Also the. memorial Of Patrick Henry, of Sir Thomas's-build-
ings, who stated that in January last. a violent assault was com-
mitted upon the petitioner's wife by Johu M'Anenly, who was
tried for the offence at the last sessions and fined £lO. and he
elm prayed that the LW. might be paid to him .towards the
loss and expense he had incurred. Likewise a memorial from
Thomas Saul, the corporation beilman, praying for a grant of
4earing apparel. And further, a memorial from Isaac Lee, of
,Seel-street, complaining of the proceedings of the Court of Re-
quests—the whole of which were referred to,committees.
THE COUNCIL—THE BALLOT QUESTION—AND THE WARD MEET-
INGS.
Mr. LASSELL now rose to present to the council a memorial
of the reformers of Rodney-street ward, on the late ballot vot log of the council.
Mr. FRRME, Mr. RAMSDEN, and another member; also hav-
ing similar memorials to present, it was desired that they should
be all read before Mr. Lassell proceeded with his observations.
• The Deputy TowN-cenex read them accordingly, as follows:
" To the Mayor and Council of. the Borough of Liverpool, in
Council assembled.
" The Memmial of the Refirmers. (f Rodney-street Ward; in
" ' ' Ward Meeting assembled,
Shovveth, •
" That, in the opinion of your memorialists, the spirit of the
municipal reform act is clearly designed' to establish the perfect
responsibility of the members of the common council to their
constituents: e
"That your memorialists cannot refrain from expressing
their opinion, that the adoption of any mode of voting which
scieens from public observation the manner in• which a dele-
gated trustis exercised by their local representatives, is calcu- •
lated, in the highest. degree,' to enfeeble. if not utterly to de-
stroy, the popularity of a liberal municipal corporation; and '
your memorialists view with feelings of alarm;-the method of ,
secret voting, resorted to iii the council chamber, on the 21st of '
February last., . ~.
"By order and on behalf of the meeting, • , ,
•'THOS. HARVEY, Chairs a ,
" Liverpool, 9th March, 1838."
" To the Mayor and Common Council of Liverpool, in Coun-
• - •• - cil assemhled.. -
The Armorial or the Reformers of Great George. Ward, agreed
to at a Publii:' Meetiny held on the -19th instant, in Mr. R.
B;yden's large room, Upper Pitt-street, •
" Respectfully showeth, • ,
a That your memorialists are fully persuaded that it is
founded on reason and experience that responsibility is eseeutiai