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returned, if they ever did return, having been so familiarised
with atrocities and cruelties, they.would become so brutalised
as to become very dangerous subjects? (near, hear.) If they '
ever did return they would of _necessity cause serious apprehen-
-Bton. He did nut mug
to he masa strict and scrupulous than
other men, but he m- ewn-- chat..bis did entertain great doubts
whether any goiernin. . ,ould he justified in. promoting those
objects which the p. „ •• ministers lutd. It had been said that
no war could 6e justified ‘Yhich.was-not either strictly a war of
defence, or a war the intetests intotved in which were of a cha-
meter of so great a magnitudealutt Other nations might inter-
pose. Now the war in Spain Was• Mat -a war of defence; there-
fore the only question was .were the. interests of such a magni-
tude as could justify another government interfering ? Could
it be pretended that our own interests were in danger? Could
it be said that the independence of Spain was in jeopardy? He
apprehended that nasuchttssettiOn'Couldbe stated. He thought
it was high time now that the house should know what endea-
vours have been made by his-Majesty'sgovernment for the pur-
pose of softening or ameliorating, the character of that most
horrible warfare. The noble earl concluded by moving, "That
a humble address be presented to his Majesty, praying that his
Majesty, would be graciously pleased to direct that there be laid
before this house copies or extracts of letters which passed be-
tween his Majesty's minister at Madrid and the Spanish govern-
ment, showing the intervention of his Majesty's government to
111, itigate•the sanguinary character of the warfare carried on in
the northern provinces of Spain ; also a copy of the remon-
strances addressed to the government of-her most catholic Ma-
jesty for that purpose.."
Lord MELBOURNE concurred with Lord Aberdeen in repro-
bating the cruelties and barbarities practised in the northern
Provinces of Spain. He would 'not-attempt to offer a single.
palliation for the mode of warfare now going on in that country.
ae thought, however, that the noble 'earl had acted-unfairly to-
Wards government in now coining forward and bringing the
accusation which he had- done against his Majesty's ministers.
The order in council had been in. operation a whole year, and
yet the noble.earl had 'myna:thought fit to express an opinion
Upon it. This was like laving a snare fur
,government, and
Waiting to see the result befora an unfavourable opinion was
Promulgated. '['he noble earl had-expressed a doubt whether
any efforts had been atade to put an end to the dreadful conflict
Which prevailed.. • He-begged to assure him that the convention
alluded to had been acted uponotnit that exchanges undet.it
had been effected. The noble•oarl had. stated the circumstances
of the-case upon- whicluiudeed.,:his. motion had-been, as he had -
intimated, founded. The chief facts connected, with that fright-
ful act of barbarism were these—Cabrera had shot two Alcaldes
in Lower. Aragon.; in consequence of which directions had been
given to Nogueras a general commanding at Tolosa,, to seize
the mother of Cabrera,—that .he,did so, and on appealing to
know what.was to be done with- her, he was referred to Mina,
and that Mina had given directions to have her put to death.
Mr. Villiers, at once Communicated with the Spanish govern-
ruent Madrid i with the first minister there, requiring an inn-
Mediate investigation into.the matter. In conseunente of this
interference an investigation was set- on foot.. liogueras had
been, since deprived of his conunand, and an
,inquiry into his
conduct had. he ivatitaterl.. was. unfortunate that wars ap-
',tared to be necessary—that the state of the world countenanced
shelsanotion ; so long, therefore, as this. necessity existed, evils
would naturally don in-the train. War ,was "a hard and cruel
mistress," requiring many sacrifices. The education of a sol-
dier Wag _pretty 'similar under similar circumstances—(hear)—
and it the character of a solder were to be considered in the ar-
gument a priori, it would not be very favourable as to his moral
qualifications on his return to his own country. (Hear.) The
noble earl seemed to. think that his Majesty's miaisters were
bound to throw off our connexions with the whole oft western
Pare of Europe—to abandon the treaty entered inn'. between
this country and France, because of the cruel acts which had
taken place between the ,contending parties in Spain: With
respect to those acts themselves, he detested them as much as
the noble earl, and he had done every thing in his power to pre-
vent their repetition. . . .
The Duke of WELLINGTON reprobated, in strong and indig-
nant terms, the atrocities alluded to by Lord Aberdeen, and la-
mented that ministers had destroyed their influence with Don •
Carlos by the course they had adopted with regard to Spain.
The body or troops sent from this country at once put an end io
the convention fur the establishment of a cartel ; they were not
Part of that army with respect to which the cartel was framed,
mini it was clear that no pains-had been taken to include them
within it; they hail not, in fact, arrived in 51'ain when the con-
vention was agreed to. The noble duke concluded by saying,
that so lone as the noble viscount was prepared to keep that
body of troops in Spain, the war would not, in his opinion, be
brought to an end and the government of this countr., would
"sa all that beneficial influence in the cotmcili or both parties
which it had hitherto happily exercised for the benefit of lmiiian
nature, in repressing' similar acts of atrocity in the unfortunate
straggle going on now goin on in that distractel country. ( Herr.) a. ay,
he was even prepared au, say that, as affairs stood now, these
matters would front day to day become worse and more revolt-
i4r, to good feeling.
After souse observations front the Marquis of Londonderry
the motion was agreed to.—Adjourned.

HOUSE' OF COMMONS, FRIDAY.
On the motioniof Mr. Tennyson D'Eyercourt this bill was
read a seconclqiiite,and ordered to be committed.
•IfkedMSFIELD SMALL DEBTS' BILL.
A short dismission arose on the question " that this bill an
Pass," t'pon which the house divided. For the bill, 203; against
It 56.—Majority 147.
CARLOW COMMITTEE.
Mr. N ARDY gave notice that on the 21st of April he would
'Make a motion relative to the evidence taken before the select
tnrumittee appointed to inquire into the transactions between
Air. O'Connell and Mr. Raphael, with regard to the Carlow
election. (Hear, hear, froii: Air. O'Connell.)
14.00G1N0 IN THE ARMY.'
Lard JOHN RUSSELL laid on the table the report of.the cern-
rnissioners appointed to inquire into this subject.
Lord Clovvick, in answer to Mr. I:ttille, ib,at he meant
" gilthilit a motion to the house founded on the report aftci the
aster helydays.
OcCI;PATION OF CR!COW

Sir STRATFoaD 6ANNING brought under the consideration
of the house the occupation -Of t t•acow
detailed
the forces of qussia,
‘e
Au • "-
na, and t'russia. In doing so, he Coe circtoostan,
ces attendantapon the ocenpatione•-showed.what ,;ere the 'crofts
of the treaty' or Vienna, and maintained that the ,lecllpali kVaS
a violation of the treaty, and'an' insult to this country.: did
not wish to embarrass the government he was only anxieus to
ascertain that theproceeding had not been disregarded.
Lord PALMEP.SToN admitted the importance of the subject,
and the interest-noto rally, -attaching ,to it: but as-yet the go-
vernment had received no of Trial intimation from the three
powers of the course they- had adopted, nor why they had
Pursued it. Tl:ey had learned the !'act from one of their own
9.tinisters, and from public sources ..yr intelligence., Not know-
ing what grounds those powers hail to. urge for their proLeed-
infzs, he could not express an opinion. ille observed—" It was
quite true that the treaty of Vienna stipulated that on no.pre-
fence whatever were foreign troops to entet Cracow : but it was
also true that the same treaty stipu!ated that the people of Cra-
cow should not harbour any offendert against the peace of those
states, but should give them up to the powers whose subjects
they were. And it was upon that ,stipulatioe of the, treaty that
the residents of the three great powers at Greene demanded
the exnulsiou of refugees." llis lordship added that he was
anxiously- waiting to learn front, those powers the reasons for
their proceedings; in the meantime the government would direct
every attention to the subject, and take care that the honour of
England was in no way compromised.
Mr. tyCoNN E. Lt. deem ed •it on insult to England and Prance.,
Mr. ulna sugoested the stoppage of the payment on account
of the Russian-Dutch loan.
Lord J. liesscm. considered that Lord Palmerston's expla-
nation was perfectly satisfectory, and denied that the honour of
this country had been compromised.
Lerd DiIDLEY STUART condemned the conduct of the three
Powers towards Cracow, and maintained that it was a violation
'of treaty—of all honour, and an insult to this country. lie was
friendly to the present' administration, hut he considered that
here ottr foreign secretary had been remiss, for, otherwise, how
ras it that he was without official information of the transac-
tions at Cracow ?
'The conversation then dropped.
`The house was engaged in committee for the remainder of the
ev,ening on this bill.—Adjourned at two o'clock.