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The MA Y OR.—Entirely.
Mr. Nicol. then moved that the proceedings of the Commit-
tee be not confirmed, and that it be an instruction to the Com-
mittee to furnish a full statement of their expenditure to the
next Council.

Mr. AiKEx having seconded the motion,
Mr. THOMPSON observed that he was quite astonished to
behold how some gentlemen strained at gnats whilst they swal-
lowed camels. (Hear, hear.) These gentlemen had no objec-
tion to pay £7OOO for witnesses alone when they had a water
bill to promote, but they could not give a sixpence for the
promotion of a rating bill. .e7OOO for witnesses alone. The
amount was enormous. Manchester had got their whole bill
for less money. If there were much more talk or bother about
the paltry affair, they would subscribe the amount themselves,
sooner than that Mr. Hornby should be annoyed with this
petty opposition. (Hear, hear, and loud applause.)
Mr. T. B. HORSFALL would vote against the amendment;
but he would do so on the ground that the Council might object
to any portion of the expenses, which were not satisfactory,
when that matter was brought before them.
Mr. S. HOLME thought it would have been much better if
the Castor and Pollux of the Dock Committee had not put for-
ward this amendment; because it would go out of that room
that they had only done so as a sort of retribution on those who
had refused to allow these same gentlemen to place their own
expenses to the account of the Dock Estate; and it would look
as if those gentlemen had been vexed because they had been
compelled to do what few gentlemen north of the Tweed did not
like to do, that was, to put their hands into their own pockets
and pay their expenses oil such occasions.
Mr. Ai KIN.—If it be the pleasure of the Council I will with-
draw the amendment. (Loud cries of no, no; vote, vote; ac-
companied with a call for the amendment.)
The amendment was then put and lost, every mmber in
Council, including even both the move/ and seconder,e having
voted against it. The following is the result of the division, if
so it may be called ; for, as Mr. Bennett observed, it was a real
Irish division, being all on one side:—
For the amendment.—Nil.
Against.—Couneillors Langsdale, James Holme, Thomson,
Morris, Preston, Hodson, Stitt, Briscoe, Littledale, Aikin, H.
Hornby, Henderson, Rimmer, Robinson, Harbord, Wagstaff,
S. Holme, Gardner, Johnson, Bennett, Parker, Poole, G. H.
Lawrence, Beckwith, Watson, R. L. Jones, Hindley, Fisher,
Aldermen Hodgson, Swainson, T. B. Horsfall, John Holmes,
Nicol, Cooper, Wood, Procter, Bent, Turner, and the Mayor.

THE CORONER'S ACCOUNTS.
The coroner's accounts for the past month, amounting to
e2B 18s. 6d., were then passed.

KIRKDALE MEMOIAL.
A memorial was then read from the i R
nhabitants of Kirkdale,
praying for a more equitable adjustment of the rates of that
township.---Referred to the Health Committee.

THE ROYAL MERSEY YACHT CLUB.
A letter was next read from Mr. Thos. Littledale, Commo-
dore of the R.M.Y.C., soliciting the Town-hall rooms for a
ball, originating with the members of that club, for the benefit
of the funds of the Sailor's Home.—Referred to the Town-hall
Committee.

LOSING OF THE POST-OFFICE ON SUND.
Mr. S. C
HOLME rose to propose that a memorial onAYS
the sub-
ject be presented from the Council to the Post-office authorities.
He said that at the request of a great number of excellent men
he had taken the liberty of bringing before the Council his
present motion with regard to the management of the Liver-
pool Post-office establishment. He regretted his inability to
do that justice to the subject which its importance demanded;
besides, this was not the place, nor was he the person to make
a theological question of it, although he admitted that the
vastness of the question demanded that it should be discussed
on the broad basis Christian principle. The observance of
the Sabbath was a national privilege which they all liked to
enjoy. They. enjoyed it themselves when free from turmoil,
and spent it in the bosom of their families. And they were all
well aware that the poor equally enjoyed the same glorious
privilege. It was a privilege to have one day in seven. on which the pale and toil-worn mechanic could rest from his physical labours, as they all liked to do from their mental. It
was a day of rest, for all must delight in the quiet of the day,
when—
`,Mute is the voice of rural labour hushed

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Mute is the ploughboy's whistle and the milkmaid's song."
Yet, he was not generally opposed to levi slative enactments on
this subject, because they scarcely ever could succeed. The
observance of the Sabbath in this country must be a question
of degree, for they could not have the strictness of the Jewish
Sabbath, nor would it be consistent with the mild genius of
Christianity if such were the case. Their teeming thousands,
breathing the vitiated atmosphere of dark rooms and factories,
and living in crowded neighbourhoods, ought to seethe glorious
works of nature, and breathe for a time the pure air of Heaven.
Those who would carry the observance of the Sabbath so far
as to suspend all meansof transit on that day, knew but little
of the confinement and deprivations which thousands of the
population of this country were subjected to. He held, that
whether a government, a corporation, or an individual, com-
pelledthose who were dependent on them for bread to labour
without cessation—Sabbath and week-day—depriving them of
that privilege of repose which God and nature demands, was
guilty of an act of oppression; and common humanity com-
pelled them to remedy the evil, even at some personal sacrifice.
Having been on the Postal Committee for some time, his atten-
tion was drawn to the over-worked and ill-paid officers of that
establishment, to many of whom an unbroken day of rest
seldom shines. Before taking up this subject he went to the
Postmaster-General, for some information on the point, and
he felt it due to Lord Clanricarde to state that he had directed
that every information which he might require should be placed
at his disposal. He went much further into this subject, and con-
tinued—Looking at the subject in all its bearings, looking at
the great commerce of Liverpool, its central position, and also
that efliflinitiPn rAndiA
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,autunities remter aim), communication necessary, he
would only ask the Council to memorialize the authorities that
the Post-office should be closed each Sunday after 10 o'clock,
a.m., and that the clerks should be liberated, but that the
office and receiving-houses should be open for stamped letters
as usual, and perhaps a clerk might remain to receive the fees
upon foreign letters. This would be a relief to many, whilst
the sacrifice on the part of the public would be but trifling.
He would ask the Council to reflect on what science had done
for them—to reflect on the increased facility of communication
which they had at present as compared with the state of affairs
twenty years ago. Let them look at their railways—their
electric telegraphs—and reflect that, possessing as they did
such extraordinary and powerful advantages, they might
well, in gratitude, make some sacrifice in the cause of suffering
humanity. He would-commend the subject to the favourable
consideration of the Council. He pleaded for men who were
condemned to perpetual toil ; but he hoped he had not pleaded
in vain.

Mr. COOPER seconded the motion; which, after a few words
from Mr. G. H. Lawrence and Mr. D. Hodgson, was unani-
mously referred to a select committee.

UARE MARKET.
Mr. BRISCOE, inPOWNALL-S
accordancQe with the notice on the books,
moved " that a market be erected in Pownall-square, accordin
to a plan now in the Surveyor's office." g
This gave rise to considerable discussion, which eventually
ended in the matter being referred to the Markets Committee.

vonruttATlON CONTRACTS.
Mr. TnomsoN then moved—" That all work to be done by the Corporation, or any committee thereof, including the Water and Health Committees, exceeding .30, be done by contract ;
and if exceeding .el5O, by contract after public advertisement."
In support of the motion, Mr. T. entered into a variety of sta-
tistical details, relative to the• price at which work was done
for the old Highway Board. which was all executed by contract,
ie sums now paid by the

Health Committee,

Mr. Woonat:FF seconded the motion.
Mr. TINNE courted inquiry into the manner in which the
Health Committee had its work executed, and on the subject
of cost he ventured to say that they got it done very much
ch.eaPallaM if ity wasy ban= ihyontrPat ditviiillbbe7A!
pre-
judicial to the Council, and to the ratepayers at large.
Mr. JAS. HOLME would be glad if Mr. Thomson would with-
draw his motion, in order that, at the next Council, he (Mr.
H.) might have an opportunity of examining some of the state-
ments which had recently been put forth by the Borough En-
gineer on that subject.
A short discussion ensued, which ended in Mr. PROCTOR
moving, and Mr. TINNE seconding, a motion to the effect that
Mr. Thompson's motion should be postponed till next meet-
ing; but whilst the worthy alderman was preparing his motion
so many gentlemen left the room that the MAYOR announced
there "was not a Council." The motion then dropped, and
this being all the business, the Council adjourned.

LECTURE By DR. MREILE.—The Rev. Dr, 111• Neile
will deliver a lecture in the new school-room, Miles-
street, Prince's Park, this evening, in aid of the Evening
School, just established for the benefit of the youth of the
industrious classes in that neighbourhood, under the
patronage of Edward Cropper, Esq., and the presidentship
of the rev. doctor. The subject of the lecture, " What
we mean by Secular Instruction on Christian Principles,"
is one rife with interest to the supporters and friends of
an institution intended to ground the maturing faculties
of its members with sound views of their moral responsi-
bilities, while it imparts to them the treasures of secular
knowledge. This all-important subject will, no doubt,
be elucidated by the rev. gentleman with a fullness and
force commensurate with the decided view he is known to
entertain with regard to it ; the address will, therefore,
afford a high intellectual treat to the rev. doctor's hearers.
The school will shortly be opened and promises to be of
the greatest possible good in the populous neighbourhood
in which it is situated. Its purposes and the terms of
subscription have been fully set forth in the published bills.
INQUESTS YESTERDAY.—On view of the body of John
Tillen, who was seven years old. Deceased resided with
his mother, a widow, in Milk-street. He had been mis-
sing from Tuesday morning. On Saturday night last, the
water was let off out of the Leeds and Liverpool Canal
for the purpose of its being cleansed, and on Sunday
morning a flat-man discovered the body of the boy in the
mud.—On the body of James Hutton, a child seventeen
months old, residing with his parents in Grosvenor-street.
On Sunday week, his mother placed a basin of hot broth
on the table and the deceased pulled the basin down, and
WAS so severely scalded that he, diva oil Sturday last,

ther this money could be legally paid 'under the resolution of
the Council on the 15th of November last. itos:3l4,
The MAYOR.—That is a_question which it would be quite
out of order to put now. You should have put that question
when the resolution you refer to was before the Council. It
was a resolution which involved a legal point, and it was the
Town-clerk's duty to have advised the Council at the time ;
but you are out of order now.
Mr. At should like to have an answer from the Town-
clerk.
Mr. DAVID HODGSON.—We all know that we have often to
correct the proceedings of committees.
The MAYOR. There is a question now to be decided before
the discussion goes further, if you please.
Mr. HODGSON--1 trust I have been long enough in this
Council, and deported myself here in such a manner as should
protect me from being called to order, when I do not merit
such a rebuke.
The MAYOR.—WiII you allow me to complete my answer to
Mr. Aikin first?
Mr. Honsox.—l am going to speak to the question before it
is answered.
The MAyoß.—Then I can't hear you.
Mr.HODGSON.—How can the question be decided till we hear
the opinions of the Council upon it. Will you allow me—
The MAYOR.—Not till I have spoken. His worship then
proceeded to observe, that when the matter was before the
Council was the time when Mr. Aikin's question should have
been put, and as the question was not then raised, the respon-
sibility of the matter rested with the whole Council; and as
there was nothing in the proceedings relating to a matter of
payment, he thought Mr. Aikin was out of order. If his ques-
tion was allowed, it might raise a discussion on a question
which was not before the Council.
Mr. HODGSON.—I was going to speak on the general question.
The MAYOR.—But this question must be decided first.
Mr. HODGSON.—WiII you allow me to speak to the question?
The MAYOR.—No question has been put.
Mr. HODGSONWiII you allow me to speak before the ques-
tion is put?
The MAYOR.—I was going to do so ; but you would not allow
me ;—you were so fast.
Mr. HODGSON had the greatest respect for the gentlemen of
that committee ; but they were not to canvass the proceedings
of any and every committee. They had oftentimes taken off
the redundancies which appeared in the reports of committees,
before confirming them ; and why, he would ask, should not
any which might be considered as an omission on the part of
the committee, be added?
Mr. AIKEN wished to know if his question was to be put?
The MA YOR.—II is out of order.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE considered the present case VI be
analogous with the Albert Dock Warehouse Bill, anct they all knew that there was no difficulty there. I
Mr. HORNBY looked upon the matter as a point of order
solely.