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he Hon

ton), the Rev. Dr. Berth, tht
the Rev. Mr. Clifton, &c., &

The CHAIRMAN, in opening the proceedings, said it was
hardly necessary to remind them of the principles on which
the society was established; it was hardly necessary to re-
mind them 'of the feeling manifested by those who met at
Warrington two years ago to establish the society, that it
was absolutely necessary, as well as desirable, that more at-
tention should be paid to the state of education among the
rising generation, and that it was desirable such extended
education should be based on church principles. The num-
ber interested in these principles would not be less than from
400,000 to 500,000 youth from ten to fiftppn

tins diocese ; and it must be confessed that this was a-very
important body. It was not that they desired by a religious
education to lock up their faculties, or withhold them from
other branches of education ; but that they should go to
those studies with those principles impressed upon their
minds without which all other learning was of no use. He
compared those who went forth without these principles
upon their mind, to a ship without a rudder. It was there-
fore the church had paid, during the last three years, so much
attention to the obj

the intention of the church,—for it was always the desire of
the church to educate her own youth ; but the great and
rapid increase of population in the diocese had perhaps pre-
vented them from keeping pace as they ought with its wants.
The success with which the 0- • • ob-

ciety had carried out the
stanshed, would be laid before them
ould not but congratulate them on its
success. A conversation with the pupils of the Training
College in London had convinced him more than ever of the
lle related the particulars of one
His lordship and the pupil were
ar a conservatory, and looking at a specimen of
-fruit tree. He remarked to the young man what
g such trees would be to a population like ours, so
want of bread. The young man with great modesty
ented, and said he had always observed that in those
countries where the people looked for food without the trou-
ble of cultivating it, they were much worse off, and much
more sunk in degradation, than in others. Now he (the
chairman) was much struck with the truth of the answer.
and he could not but call attention to the desirableness of
such teachers as these—teachers entertaining such excellent,
currectond enlightened views going forth among the people
to instruct them,—men who had a proper reliance upon the
providence of God, and who could so justly apprecieate and
understand what seemed to have been his designs. The peo-
ple much wanted such instructors; they were too apt when-
ever a temporary or unfortuitous circumstance led to suffer-
ing, to arraign the providence of God, or to attribute it to

'cots for which it wa

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conversations

had they been taught to look at these things in the light they
they would have seen that they were the result of a
itic which no human power could have arrested, rnd

ought, they we

as these, it would be a

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duty of the teachers

this society would send forth, to imbue them ; and he looked
forward to the time when the society would be able to send
them forth with satisfaction, and with a perfect reliance that
that their labouts would be calculated to produce most ex-
tensive and important beneficial results. (Applause.) His
lordship then called upon_

The Hon. and Her. HENRY Powys, Rector of Warring-
ton, who read the report.
Lord FRANCIS EGEnT4II4 was next called upon, and was
received with great cheering, but his lordship spoke briefly.
After alluding to the indisposition which he labcured under,
and which, lie said, was such as incapacitated him from taking
any part in the proceedings which might require great bodily
or mental exertion, his lordship said that though he seldom
rose to address a meeting less free from bodily pain, he never
rose to address one on a subject with regard to which he felt
more ease of mind. The motion he had to recommend was,
that the report be.adopted and published, under the direction
of the board, for distribution ; and he thought it was only
due to the gentlemr— the labour. and

who had so ably performed it, that their report should be
published. His lordship went on to express his satis-
faction with the report, and to state that he believed the
exposition of the reasons which induced himself and others
to join in the establishment of that society as given in the
report were perfectly correct. He expressed his satisfaction,
particularly with the proceedings of the board, in the esta-
blishment first of drawing-schools for teachers. Most of

felt the difficulty in their own nei

ation to t}

—.u6 competent instructors in
whom to repose the sacred task ; and it was therefore with
gratification that he found theboard had determined to attend
to the quality as well as the quantity of the education they
should give. (Great applause.) He was not one of those
who were opposed to what was called secular education, nor
was he one who was jealous of the spread of intelligence
and science amongst the people; he was anxious that every
a man should be as well educated or better than himself,
S that he had been opposed to the - of

ne system of education so ap-
plicably stigmatised by a noble duke—whose sight was as
clear and generally as well-directed in civil matters as in the
field of battle—the " clever devil system iif education." He
had opposed it because be felt they could not promote any
system of education which should be carried on separate from
sound religious instruction without positive prejudice to so-
ciety at large. It might be very specious to say that we are
laymen, and you are the clergy, and that we'll give a secular
*ln to the youth entrusted to us first, and then you
_ter us—it might sound very specious to say, that
in giving a secular education they were only preparing the
soil fur a spiritual one, and that when they had taken a clever
lad and taught him in the various branches of education
which might be desired, others might come and teach him
religion, and that when he had been taught geography and
shown where Palestine was, the clergyman could ultimately
be admitted to tell him what once happened there—
but however specious it might sound, it was not a system of
education he should wish to establish, nor was it a system of
education he could well lend his assistance to promote.—
(Applause.) There were subjects, his lordship continued,
on which it would be easy to delate, but he was addressing
an audience, he imagined, not inclined to differ with his own
views upon them. If, indeed, the opinion did prevail that
instruction apart from religion ought to be given, there were
few who had taken a view of the subject, except to a very
limited extent, that did not know there were facts connected
with the statistics of crime in this and ether countries which
gentlemen in this and ether countries would not feel it diffi-
cult to overlook. It hapened to himself but the day before,
to look into a French book. upon the state of prisons and
crime in that country ; and he found that from 1834 to 1836,
a period during which it was said, light and intelligence had
progressed more rapidly than it was ever knowen to do in
France before, crime had increased 29 per cent. With refe-
rence to the description of crime, most of the increase during
that period he might mention that the crime of assassination
had increased one-third, and forgery, subornation, and per-
jury one-half. - The fact might perhaps bear explanation, and
there would be those ready to give an explanation of it, but
it shewed at least one thing, that the adoption of education
without religion, or apart from religious instruction, was not
desirable. And there was one thing more remarkable still,
that the increase of crime in those places where education
was given without religious instruction was greater than in
those placds where no education was given at all. His lord-
ship went on to say, that he did not allege this as conclusive
evidence upon the subject, but he thought it was evidence
which deserved their very serious attention.

can come a

The Rev, CHARLES lionosixos, in supporting the reso-
tion, said it was an essential part of church principles, that,
if you establish a church you must not establish it by halves;
they must not begin with the adult but with the infant popu-
lation, and it was for this reason he thought they hada claim
to support on the legislature. In reference to the proposed
scheme of national education, he said there was one point
in the report to which he wished to call attention. It
was as to whether they should make any concession as to the
omissi,,n of the established formularies of their church—he
meant the church catechism. It would be easy to enlarge
on this subject, but the point to which he would limit him-
self was that the clergy had no option, no discretton in the
matter at all. His lordship if he would, could not, and, he
would add his belief, would not if he could, permit any of
his clergy in the schools connected with their congregations
to omit the use of the church catechism. And if that were
the case, why discuss the question at all? (Hear, hear, hear.)
These acts of conciliation—if conciliations they could be
called—might be deemed by some expedient, but they must
be confessed by all to be unwise. They might be called libe-
ral, but it was the liberality of this world, and could only be
compared to that of the unjust steward, who gave away his
master's goods that he might make to himself friends of the
men of this world. (Applause.) He did hope, therefore,
that such principles as these would never be mooted among
them. Having spoken of the duty of the clergy, he would
say a word to the laity. And he would ask them to re-
member that they, equally with the clergy, were members
of the church. (Hear, hear.) To them they looked for co-
operation and support, and confidence at least, until they
should have shown they no longer deserved it at their hands.
They might be told that the clergy had a selfish motive, and
that they looked to the preservation of their tithes and in-
comes alone. Away with the unmanly clergy. If there were
such dishonesty and selfishness in their motives it would be
found connected, as all selfishness and dishonesty was, with
something of a worldly character ; but he would ask if it was
likely they should support a system they did not believe to be
found to ward off some imaginary danger to incomes of from
£5O to £l5O a yeer ? The fact was, that they had the same
interests which laymen had, the interests of their Great
Master, to whom they were all in common bound. Having
a common object in view then, let them go forward to the
great work in which they were concerned, and let them re-
member it was a work of such a nature that its results would
be expected at once. It was a work in which they must
walk rather by faith than by sight ; for they might not see
even in their generation the effects of their labours. The
adults of the present time were beyond reach ; many connected
with the church had reached the age, or gone past the age for
education; but let it be remembered, there were thousands
of unconscious infants who had not yet arrived at the proper
age, and whom, therefore, they might hope it was not too
late to benefit. The reverend gentleman went on to notice,
amongst the infant generation springing up, the royal infant,
and said, might God grant that he might live to see the
triumph of those principles which were now so happily
working among the people. (Applause.) The resolution
was put and carried unanimously.
The Bon. and very Rev. the DEAN of MAKCHESTER
proposed the next resolution, calling for renewed efforts in
support of the society, and spoke at great length. The rev,
gentleman went on to complain of the sentiments contained
in a paper which had been forwarded to him by the board,
with reference to to the sort of teachers to be employed in
the diocesan schools, which paper proposed that they should
be taught that unless the schools were under the superintend.
ence of those who had authority (the clergy of the established
church) they could not expect thattheir efforts bad the Divine
blessing. Now he put the case of dissenting missionaries, or of
laymen working in foreign lands and teaching the word of
God, and, he asked whether it was
_to be nhderstood that
their work would not have the blessing of God?
The Hon. and Rev. H. Powis, who had been absent from
the room, here entered and said, the paper upon which the

Dean was commenting, was one which was sent him for re-
vision only, and the objectionable passage had since been
struck out.

The Hon. and Rev. the DEAN said he had- certainly never
received intimation. The paper in question was only sent
him for revision, or he should have excercised his privilege,
and not commented upon it in that meeting. He proceeded
to notice next, a proposition from gentlemen in Manchester,
for raising a sum of £lO,OOO, the object of which should
be to found three schools in connection with the Manchester
Free Grammar School, and to regret that the trustees should
have felt it necessary to decline their offer.
Lord FRA.NCIS EGERTON rose to order, and said he
thought it. undesirable to enter upon this subject. As a
trustee he begged to say that there were reasons connected
with chancery law, which had compe.iled them to take the
course they had, but those reasons which it would require at
least an hour and a half to explain, and he thought for that
reason it was undesirable that the rev. gentleman should call
them forth on the present occasion. (Hear, hear.)
The Hon. and very Rev. the DEAN said he had not in-
tended to pursue the subject, and if his Lordship had waited
he would have seen in the course of a few sentences more
the tendency of his remarks. He• proceeded to regret that
the schools in question could not be established in con-
nexion with the Manchester grammar school, under some
modification, and it was for this reason that he thought the
present system of education by falling short of what was
wanted by the middle classes, led them to the establishment
of instutitions themselves disconnected with the church,
and to some extent forced them into dissent. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. CARDWELL, barrister, next addressed the meeting,
and was followed by Mr. W. Patten, the Rev. Hugh Stowell,
and other gentlemen, all of whom, however, spoke but
briefly.

The meeting, which commenced at twelve o'clock, termi-
nated a little before four.

MISCELLANEOUS

A breach of promise of marriage action, mentioned in the
Globe a few evenings since, as having been brought by a
lady, aged 18, against a gentleman advanced in years, and in
opulent circumstances, and in which the damages were laid
at £5OOO, is made special, and stands for hearing in the
Queen's Bench, 7th Dec. The brief runs to 2000 folios,
and the case excites great interest.
SINGULAR PROPORTION OF THE SEXES.—In the county
of Westmoreland, according to the last census, there are
28,234 males, and 28,235 females.

There were taken fiom the garden of Mr. Edward Brice
Plymtree, a few days since, the enormous quantity of 723
potatoes, the produce of a single seed.—Western Luminary.
The inhabitants of Leeds have presented Mr. Edward
Baines, late M.P. for that town, with a splendid candela-
brum, and four silver covered dishes, weighing about 700
ounces, as a testimonial of their approval of his conduct.
THE EXPLOSION AT BARNSLEV.—By this melancholy oc-
currence fifteen persons have lost their lives. The concus-
sion is represented as the report of a field of artillery, and it
shook down a wail near the pit. One of the most singular
traits of this distressing accident was the preservation of two
of the boys descending in the corve and before adverted to.
Although actually blown out of the corve, they dropped into
it again as it went down ; whilst their poor companion fell to
the bottom and was killed.

SHOCKING CATASTROPHE.—On Saturday week two men
named Bennet and Draper, residing at Brethy, Derbyshire,
were found poaching by two watchers, who immediately pur-
sued them. The chase was continued until the poachers
found themselves hemmed in with the river Trent on one
hand, and the river Dove before them, and their pursuers
behind. The two misguided men leapt ii:to the Dove, and
one of them sank directly to rise no more ; the other uttered
several heartrending cries, but soon shared the fate of his
companion.

TIIE RECTOR OF MIDDLETON.—The distressed state of
the working classes of Middleton, arising from the present
depression of trade, has been materially alleviated within the
last few days by the humanity of the Rev. Richard Durn-
ford, the rector of that parish. who has tnanifested a kind in-
terest in their welfare, without regard to their opinions.—
Large quantities of provisions have been distributed by his
liberality to the most necessitous and most deserving objects.
—Manchester Guardian. [Will the reverend agitators of
the anti-corn-law league follow the example.—E. L. S.

-.—On Friday week, as the Van of
Lousdale steamer was on her way from Liverpool to White-
haven, a dense smoke was seen issuing from the hold, which
prOduced considerable alarm on board, and left no doubt on
the minds of both the crew and passengers that some part of
the vessel had caught fire. Captain Thompson, with a cool-
ness and promptitude highly creditable, went below, and heti-
ing ascertained that the coals had by some means caught fire
forthwith ordered four or Live holes to he cut in the d, -
the vessel immediately over the ignited coals, into which a
continuous stream of water was poured for full two hours,
without any apparent diminution of the fire. Eventually,
however, the united efforts of the crew and passengers pre-
vailed, and the fire was subdued.

STEAMEIt ON FIRli

EXTENSIVE ROBEERY.—On Thursday last a gentleman
of the name of Marston arrived in London to receive pay-
ment of £3OO, which, having obtained, lie returned to his
hotel. Two other persons entered shortly after, and in the
course of conversation Mr. Marston told them the object of
his business in town. His new friends, after giving him sun-
dry cautions as to the multiplicity of pickpockets, advised
him to deposit his money (which consisted entirely of bank
notes) in his fob, and politely offered to show him a most se-
cure way of doing so, which Mr. Marston foolishly per-
mitted. Shortly after, when these gentlemen were gone.
Mr. Marston took the parcel out for the purpose of marking
the notes, when he found to his great surprise that the con-
tents were several pieces of blank tissue paper.
The proceeding of the house of Coutts and Co. against
Lord Strangford is now understood to be not an action at
common law, but in the form of a bill of discovery filed in
chancery, in order to ascertain the degree of knowledge pos-
sessed by his lordship of the origin of the exchequer-bills,
accepted by that house as security, with the view of institut-
ing legal proceedings, on evidence so obtained from Lord
Strangford, against other parties. This is no abandonment,
as has been interpreted by some, of the claim against the
government for the spurious bills, but in order to show that
all possible legal steps have been taken against those even
suspected to have a guilty knowledge of the original fraud,
in aid, so far as it may go, of the liability of the govern-
ment.

The papers from De nerara of the IGth of October state,
that the affairs of Messrs. Troughton were still much liti-
gated, and there were fears that the whole of the assets
would be swallowed up by the law courts. Sickness had
again broken out in the regiment stationed there, and as the
smallpox had not decreased among the labourers, all vessels
bound for Barbadoes would be subjected to quarantine on
arrival there. It is stated that the proprietors of slaves at
Cayenne were about to declare them free. The Dutch at
Surinam, it was believed, would shortly follow the same
course. At Essequibo there bad been sickness among the
Portuguese emigrants, but not of a very alarming character.
The plantations are all reported to be in good cultivation,
and likely to produce good crops.

SECOND EDITION.

Standfird-office, Three o'clock

LIVERPOOL CORN EXCHANGE.—Tnis DAY.

(From Messrs. 1?. MAKIN Sr SONS' Circular.)

Of Irish and Foreign Wheat together we have to note a
fair quantity into this port since Tuesday last, with a good
supply of Barley and Oats coastwise and from Ireland ; also
a further abundant accession of Oatmeal from the latter
source, several parcels of Beans from abroad, and a mode-
rate import of Flour, as stated beneath.

The weather continuing so extremely unfavourable for
autumn culture, that much land, intended for Wheat, must
necessarily remain over to sow in spring; which seemed to
impart a slight impulse to the trade for good descriptions of
Wheat this morning, and a moderately fair business was
transacted chiefly in foreign, at prices, in some instances,
rather above, and in others a little below the rates of this day
se'nnight ; the damp and inferior qualities of English or Irish
new, however, remains unnoticed, and were nominal in value.
English and Irish Flour ruled in the same dull state as last
week, and foreign gave way Gd per barrel.
Barley and Malt moved off very sparingly on the reduced
terms of Friday.

Beans, with an improved demand, recovered the decline
abovementioned ; and Peasesteadily supported former prices.
In consequence of the increasing supply of Oats, and large
accumlation of Oatmeal, both these articles met an exceed-
ingly difficult sale ; the former receding Id. per 45 lbs., and
the latter 6d. per 240 lbs. below our last quotations.

ARRIVALS OF CORN,
From the 23d to the 29th inst., 1841, inclusive

DXSCRIrTION

mu-
LAND

I COAST- !CANADA

WISE. A lI.STS

REIGN. TOTAL

Wheat Qrs. 3057
Barley Qrs. 173 2393
Malt Qrs. 261
Oats
Rye Qrs.
Beans Qrs. 140
Pease. Qrs. 31
Shelled Barley . Qrs.
Indian Corn .. • Qrs.
Rapeseed Qrs.;
Oatmeal .... Loads! 14024 7
Flout. Sacks 1532 1240
Ditto .. &Is.'

3163 1 360:

'22 722

10JS

155 1 116

Into Runcorn, Ireland and Coastwise
meal, 3225 Ids; Flour, 156 sacks.

—Oats, 1634 qrs. ; Oat-

EXPORTS.—Foreign. Wheat, 252 qrs.; Barley. 5 qrs.; Oats, 223
qrs ; Pease, 20 qr. ; Indian Corn, qrs. ; Oatmeal, 2 loads ;
Flour, 75 scks, brls.--Ireland. Wheat, ►047 qrs. ; Beans, 36
qrs. ; Indian Corn, 85 qrs. ; Oatmeal, 2 loads; Flour, barrels.
—Coastwise. Wheat, 1881 qrs. ; Barley, 122 qrs.; Idalt,
qrs. ; Oats, 10 qrs. ; Beans, 25 qrs. ; Rye, qrs. ; Pease, 12 qrs. ;
Oatmeal, 7 Ids. ; Flour, 236 sacks, 1914 barrels.

Average prices of Grain, for the week ending Nov. ig, 1841.
Wheat Us. I Id. 1 Barley 335. 4d. 1 Oats.. 225. 6d. Rye.. 40s •ci
Beans.. 40s. 4d. I Pease.. 40s. 3d.

Aggregate average of the six weeks.
Wheat..64s. Bd. I Barley 325. 4d. I Oats.. 2ls, id. Rye.
Beans_ 3gs. gd. Pease.. 395. iod.

Duty on Foreign Grain, &e. this week.
Wheat22s. ed. Barley iss. loci. I Oats .. . 13s. 9d. I Rye..l2s. 6,1
Beans I is. oil. I Pease .. 115.0 d. I Ind. Corn Os. Od. Flour 136.7 i.
Ditto from British Colonies out of Europe.
Wheat.... ss. 0,1. I Barley.. 25. tid. I Oats .. 2s. Od. I Rye.... 3s. Od,Beans.. 3s . I Pease.. 3s. I Indian Corn.. Os. Od. Flour Od.

Liverpool Averages, week ending Nov. 2:3, 1541.
Wheat. I Barley. Oats. I Beans. I Pease
835 730 ( 10
58s. 4d. Os. Od. 21s. 7d. 465. Otl. Os. 0(1.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE

TUESDAY, 29111 NOVEMBER.— •
imam:v.—Hesperus, Jackson, from Bonny; sailed stn Sept..
and from St. Thomas 18th Sept.—Monarch, Booth, from Bombay—
Francis Staunton, from Savannah—Windsor Castle, Young, from
Bonibay ; sailed sth August-51artha, Fish, from Poole.

Wind N,

Irt ---
. Ludlow, fram Bahia, at Liverpool; sailed 12th October. On
28th instant, off Wicklow, spoke the Crown, for Bombay, and Ab-
botsford, for New Orleans.
James Baillie, for Newcastle, has put back leaky.
Satisfaction, Simon ; Commerce, Corran ; Mary, Scott ; and
Snowden, Calvert, hence, at Bonny.
Chebar, Renner, from China, off Cove, and proceeded for Liver-
pool ; sailed from Macao 14th May, and St. Helena 4th October.
On 12th Sept. in lat. s 5 S. long. 21 E, spoke the Celt. hence to Ba-
tavia. On 24th October. in lat. 12 N, long. 26 W, spoke the Reli.
ance, hence to Rio Janeiro
Sydney, Elliot, from Laguna, at Cove
Cantab, from Rio Janeiro, at Plymouth
Thomas Hunter, hence to Africa, was spoken 17th instant, in lat,
49, long. 12
Dorcas, Anthony, hence at Genoa
Frances, M'Lean, hence for Berbice, at Kingstown
Centaur, Fox, hence at Gibraltar
Alliance, Harper, hence at Seville
Endeavour, Davies, hence at Ilelvoet
Eugene, Schreyenherg, hence at Ostend

Anne Laing, Hudson, from China, at London
Wm, Parker, Sewell, from Calcatta, ditto
Bella Marina, \Vykman, from China, ditto