The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1849-05-22 00:00:00

rom Australia to search for freights in
Yes, going in ballast (hear)

,rich attach,

iounclation, in tact,
ment (hear). The only reason they do not come is, that
they are not satisfied with the freights which the British
shipping will accept. They will not come to England with-
out a much higher freight. So much for this statement
(cheers). Then Lord Carlisle tells us further of some dif-
ficulties that have occurred with regard to cochineal, Ma-
deira wine, and indigo, which cannot be imported under
certain circumstances. He states that cochineal, the pro-
duction of Teneriffe, cannot be brought from Cadiz ; that
wine, the production of Madeira, cannot be brought from
'sbon ; and that indigo, the production of Java, cannot be
mit it trs

brought from Il

and of the Earl of Carlisle,

a say whether he does not know that
the whole of these restrictions may be remedied without en-
trenching on a single principle of the navigation laws, by

in these articles, I find they
them together, and many oth
ship alludes, and there could n

ing to those who are trading
say that, take the whole of
items to which his lord-
t be found, in such a con-

dition, freight for a single

object c
any juju'

hip. (Hear.) Well, sir, the
f the opposei:s of this bill is not to inflict
:v on their fellow- merchants. No, sir, let

Lrrying the heavy

s.) One very

die to which you,

cannot get the ore brought to England, but owing to some
portion of the ore being so poor, and as they want to place
it on English soil as cheaply as they possibly can, they
smelt it before they ship it (hear, hear). By the last ad-

vices there was no ore offering for shipment (hear). The
next point to which Lord Carlisle alludes is this—
" That at Bombay and Calcutta, though there is constant
uncertainty whether there will be ships to carry produce
to England, and the freight has been as high as eight eui-

neas a ton, and though the same ports are filled with
ships not only seaworthy, but efficiently commanded, and
which would bring home that produce if they were suf.
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to ships manned by Lascar sailors,
they are not suffered to do so." I will not accuse Lord
Carlisle of wilfully deceiving the house when he
told them about freights being £8 or eight guineas a
ton. I venture to assert that, for many years shipowners
have never had a freight approaching to anything of the
kind. It is quite true that, for a temporary period, £8 Bs.
had been paid ; but at the utmost, for the last ten or
twelve years, the average freight had been nearer £4 than
£5 (hear). And here I must say, that if Lord Carlisle is
at liberty to bring forward an exception, and to mention
an individual case, when, for a very short period,
vessels, some two years ago, got a freight of eight guineas,
I shall bring forward a period, which fell within my own
experience, of British vessels, where, instead of getting
eight guineas a ton for freight, they only got fifteen
shillings a ton (loud and continued cheers). Then, sir,
with regard to that portion of the case which refers to the
Lascars, he tells us that the Indian ships will not come to
this country manned by Lascars. Why, they have been
here, and they can come again ; there is no impediment
whatever; there is no • '-^t. for this Stßt'

and conti- I tho