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Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1838-02-27 00:00:00

HOUSG COM

commons M:. tie new inetn;Jer (or Br;dge-
no•i;f, not: tie oains ac(i ii,sseat.

Tue, emiore from iiie Tvnemout election emnmittee declared
i lent :4i, G. Grey lead ueen oiler elected, and oaght to have ueen
retue net, nhtrail ni AI r. G. V. 1 oung.
itIDINGE iogn..ed whether any arrangements mid
ueen made enable the unfortunate men wao had ueen engaged
in e'ae Spanish legion to return to ibis country?
ame VA, sts•isioN answered in the alii,triai Lori.: .1. (lay
had a vessel at their servire, so that teiere would he every
co,. them ter return or stay, according to their own jougemenes
and inclinations.
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Sti• G. OE 1.A.. EVANS observed that ibere was tio trot:, in
uc sitiemPtit as io "starvation," ,be Men em-
ployed in main.

Sir EL Leo. :G repNpil that the Spani!4s authorities ',tad
deelarPti hie treai went or them to be .• infamous?'

14(111; Pa. AI t•:.:.•TON said (in answer to a question rrora an
lout. inetnhPi.) tiiat like appointment lolhe uruerof; he Gail)
hao oeeil made ;t) the usual way by the goverumenl,anu oo its
own respoasibiliiy.

lord P4-:.•?E‘.;:;..rlSt shied, in answer In sir. Alaclean, Voai he
s:toutd ;lave no objection to produce toe coirespon6eure .•e-
-spectin. ibe Vken.

C.P.DWN AND ANCI:Ott

iscount Mat oct-roNE said that, seeing the lion. and learned
mroalie,:or Dublin in. his place, ue rose for the purtm-e of
onding to him the question of whitih vesterdaY be bad given
wished to asl- the honourable and learned gen-
t letnan-,Whet bet' some sentiments which he ( I,niar 't I airistonti )
had seen reported as ;aying been riellyeted bv'bim in a speech
made .try him on Wedoesoay, the .ls of vetiruar.v, at a
t.inneti.iteld a. the Germ() and Anchor 'Lavern, in the Stroud,
Sir (ent'st.,e de i.at'v :Evans itt he cliai., were sutpdantialk
correct Hear, hear.) fie would reao tire statement to 'he
house. and he hoped the bon. and learned member wool() "0
oirn the pleasure of telling him woo her it was a substantially
rorrect report of what be had slated. The statement was raLee
from the Morne.-.9C,rrorEit 16, and the words were these:—•` Cor-
ruption of the worst description existed, and above all 'tiers was
the perjury of the tory ooliticians. Ireland was not safe from
Cie Englio anti Scott-. gentry. It was norrinte to thin!,
a body of gentlemen—men who ranised hiop in society, who
wee themselves the administrators the I; w, and who i here-
ouu:ii to .te above all suspicion, and who to set an
sample to others—was it not insrrihle that they -should he
pe.ji slu themselVrti in committees in tire Otiose Commons'
The time was come when Ibis should be prorlaitneti
was ready to he a martyr to justice and tem.,. out not .0 false
swearing: and tirerefore he tieneated iitat there was foul 'ter-
jury in the to- V conpublees of the (Nese ot. Corn tunas."
(" 'Hear, hear," f.ton +he opposition benches.) Be found also
another passaoe in the Morning Post, w;tick, was not reported in
the Morning Chronicle. The extract was as follows '.te dirt
not mince the metier; his words might the oolitic
press? he hoped they would. Ireland was on. safe .out the
perjury of the English and Scotch gentry, who hook oaths tic-
cordiug to justice, end voted according to 'tarry." llenewed
cheers from the opposition benches.) When iie t Lord Maid-
stone) saw these sentiments reported, he ba.i• said to hitusel7,
that the fair way to deal with the hon. and learned gentleman
would be to give him the earliest opportunity of contradicting
him if they were not true, (bear,. hear,) because be (Lord
Maidstone) would say that the words themselves did contain
aspersions ou eel tain members of that house which he, for one,
should wish to see wiped away at the very earliest opportunity
possible. (Cheers.) Ile now, therefore, asked the hon. and
teamed gentleman to give a plain answer tothequest ion he had
put. (Hear, hear.) He could not go. further until that was
done, anti he would therefore now sit down to hear it. (Loud
cheers from the opposition.)
Mr. O'CoNtsEre rose and said, that he felt exceedingly obli-
ged to the noble lord forgiving this publicity to sentiments which
he (Mr. O'Connell) entertained on the subject of committee of
a'certain description in that. house. (Cries of Oh ! Oh !) lie
( Mr. ti'Crtunell) had said every word of that—(renewer! cries
or Oh ! oh ! and great confusion)—he had said every word of
that, be rep. ate'), and he believed it to be true. (Renewed
confusion, and cries of Oh ! oh!) Was there a man who could
put his hand on his heart. and say, upon his honour as a gentle-
man, that he did not believe that it was substantially true ?
(Great uproar,. and shouts of No, no.) If he did otherwise. a •
man would be, laughed to scorn. It was a hideous abuse—the
public press had taunted them with it—nay, the last time he had',
addressed,the house upon the subject, he read a paragraph front
the Morning Chrohicle itself.
The SPEAK utt.—l wish to make a remark as to the regularity
of our proceedings. The hon. and learned member having an-
swerel the question, I must now appeal to the noble lord to
know what tention he intends to make. (Cheers, and loud
cries of Wye,. from the opposition.)
Viscount MstosTorsa, after a short pause, again rose and
said, that in consequence of the hon. and learned member for
Dublin having owned that he had used the tattgnage stated in
the report—in rihurt, having allowed, that the statement was
substantially true, he ( Lord Maidstone) would now give notice
of a motion on the subject. (Cheers from the opposition.) lie
did nut think such aspersions ought to be made generally and
with no Ifi•nor, and ttwrefore he s-ave notice of his intention en
Monday next to .submit a motion for the purpose or bringing
beforethe. house the_ conduct of the bon. and learned inernber
for Dublin. (Loud cheers.)
Lord J. RussELe immediately rose, and said that if that
motion were entertained by the house, he meant to bring under
the consideration of the house a charge of the Right Rev. the
Lord Bishop of Exeter, containing alterations of perjury
against certain members of that house. (Tremendous cheers
from the ministerial benches, echoed by ironical cheers from the
opposition.)
• Nearly the whole of the remainder of the sitting was occu-
pied with the Irish poor law bill, which was farther considered
an committee, and with which the house proceeded as far as the
47th clause.