The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-11-01 00:00:00

THE LIVERPOOL- STANDARD..

Con to a remark of tho Mayor on Satordnv; that the metriliers
of the council should address one another by the !motes of the
wards t!sey represented; there appeared to him to he a dill-l-
enity in this, as there were three councillors for each ward. lie
did not know how to meet the difficulty, and was afraid it would
be tumid rather inconvenient.
The MA volt said it might refer to the last speaker; three
councillors for a ward would hardly speak at the same time. It
would be in the discretion of gentlem:2ll. lie only mentioned
it use a means of avoiding personality.
The DErtYry TowN-cLiiak then proceeded to read over the
minutes of the proceedings of the' various committees since the
last monthly council. -
FINANCE COMMITTEE.

The proceedings of the finance committee were read and
confirmed.

LEASES.

A number of applications for leases were read, and agreed to.

WATCH COMMITTEE.
The proceedings of this committee were also confirmed.
IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE. _

The MAYOR said before reading the report of this committee
he would state that it was intended to apply for an act of Par-
liament for effecting certain improvements in the town. He
would wish gentlemen of the council, if they should observe
the omission of any place which wanted improvement, not to
suppose that it had escaped the attention of the improvement.
committee, but the committee thought they had brought for-
ward as much as was necessary. If gentlemen had any sug-
gestions to make he would beg them to reserve them, and make
their. to too committee, as to make them publicly might raise
the value of property in the immediate neighbourhood of the
intended improvements to the injury of the funds of the corpo-
ration.
Mr. Councillor RATHISONE here rose and said on a former,;
occasion when he had asked for the confidence of the council
for a committee it had been declined, and it was thought there
had been a certain degree of temper in his remarks. It was on
principle he had urged this then' .and he urged it:so now.
'Whenever a committee required the confidence . of the council
they were, he thought, bound to give it. A committee would,
often; belAaeed in if very difficult -situation if that confidence
was not' granted. He-would beg to• suggest that the c,ititteil
'should at all times grant such Confidence when it was requii.eit.
If a committee ever abused that confidence they had' a reinedv,
in their. own• hands-not, again to elect them.
The Mavoa said it was'desirable that the-principle.Shotild-be
adopted, but Mr. Rathbone's remarks were notat all applicable'
in, this case. It was, net that the committee wished to keep int.,
formation from the council, but that individuals of the conneil
Should keep information back and submit it to the committee,
The committee proceedings were -then reed. -A -letter froth'
Mr. Felton, recommending theerectionof exhibition rooms fer
the encouragernent of-the fine arts' Was reed.- The committee
in the present state of the council 'funds could not act on Mr.
Felton's suggestion ; but if ever there should be a surplus fund
it shbuld he inquired into. The committee had inquired into
the particnlars of the dead-house, and it was resolved that sonic
improvement in it was requisite, and that the clerk of the com-
mittee be requested to confer with the parish on the subject.
The proceedings of this committee were then confirmed.

BY S-LA WS.
The consideration of the bye-laws were then resumed.
The To N-C MU( said they were now proceeding to the bye-
laws to be passed for the old borough. The first division of live-
laws under the local act related to hackney-coaches. lie
suggested that the several bye-laws relating to hackney-coaches
in the general act, should be passed and made to apply to the
local act as regarded the old borough.
A resolution to the following effect was then passed—" that
the several bye-laws passed at the last council, relating to other
carriages in general, should specially apply to coaches plying
for hire and be embodied in the bye-laws relating to coaches.
Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE said this would be appli-
cable, with the exception of that part which inflicted a penalty
for carriages standing in the streets, which would require recti-
fying; it would require a clause " with the exception of car-
riages plying for hire."
The Tow N-CLERK said this should be seen to,
The TowN-CLERK then read over the bye-laws relating to
hackney coaches, seriatim, which were passed. We have in
our reports of the first reading of these bye-laws given them in
full, together with the debates upon them.
On reading over the bye-law for appointing an inspector of
hackney coaches, in which John Martindale is appointed by
name, Mr. Henry Lawrence thought it would be better to omit
the name; for in any future nomination it migat create dif-
ficulty, and render it necessary to insert the name of any future
inspector in a bye-law, with all the consequent delay. The bye-
law was then altered to "a fit and proper person shall be ap-
pointed," and not " John Martindale," &c.
Mr. Councillor HOPS begged to call attention to the bye-law
relating to the check-string, the penalty for not having which
" when required" was fixed at a Is. He thought the penalties
ought to be doubled; that they were much too low, and ought
to be increased to 2s. Gd., 55., and 10s.
Mr. Councillor JORDAN thought the present penalty quite
sufficicnt.
-The TOWN-CLERK said, as the bye-law was now worded, the
fine would be for a positive refusal of the driver, when requested,
to fasten a check string to his arm.
Tha increased penalties were then agreed to.
CARTS.

The Towx-euanst said they were now proceeding to the bve-
laws relating to carts. The provisions of the general act relat-
ing to. carriages would be equally applicable to carts as they
were to hackney coaches, with the same exception of the quali-
fication relating to stands.
The same resolution relating to carts which had been passed
relating to coaches was then agreed to.
St. John's Market was introduced as a stand for carts, and
the streets in the neighbourhood of the markets were made stands
for country market carts.

Committee on this eubject, those parts of the new borough
which are not lighted, could riot he included in the rate.
Mt. Councillor ibtim llouat,_s, the Cliairnian or the Watch
Committee, said, it was only intended to call on that part of
tho bOrough which was lighted to Contribute to the rate; but,
there were 35 miles of pipes to lay, and it was impossible to get
them ail laid before winter.

MARKET cOMMITTNEL
The M A Yor Baia, the next point raised was, on a recommen-
dation of the Market Committee, that marble should be sub-

stiluted for slates in the Fish Market.
Mr. Councillor DUNCAN, as a member of the Committee and
of the Council. must dissent from the recommendation, because
he !bought it was a very unnecessary expence to lay out £lOO
or £5OO extra for marble.
Mr. Councillor Jounsri said, it would be a disgrace to them,
for the sake of this paltry expellee, not to have marble slabs in
the Fists Market, as they had in all the principal markets in
Europe.
Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE inquired what was the
item of expence of the slates.
Mr. Councillor HENRY HOLMES replied that the slates would
come to t 100 or £5OO, and marble would come to £BOO.
Mr. Alderinan ItontNsoN moved that marble be used, which
was seconded by
Mr. Councillor ltaTnnoNE, who was decidedly of opinion

that they should have much better fish with marble.
After some discussion, the council divided, when there ap-
peared only two against the use of marble.
The resolution, that marble be used, was therefore carried,
and the proceedings of the market committee wore confirmed.

'SALE of CORPORATE PROPERTY.
The. MArott now called upon Mr. Hope, who had given
notice of a motion as to the mode of disposing of corporate

property.
Mr. Councillor Hops said, the resolution he held in his
hand was in substauce.the same as the motion of which he had
giVen notice.,` it. would be in tho recollection of the council,
that that notice had Originated in some doubts which had been
`entertained by some -members in the council, and by many per-
ions o'o, inreference to the correctness or incorrect-
esi `of.tlie prodeedings'of the irnprovement committee with re-
fgard to .a particular. sale;—that.salebeing the sale of the Globe
Chambers.. 'll.:was'.neeilfill te-refer to that. Notwithstanding
the .0;16 'remarks . which were then mane in
justtfiCatioti of ; the. •pypeeedirigl of the conamittee, one of the
talk press,- the Sta>idant paper in; this town—he
!thought it right to name-the paper—had 'commented on those
~,proceeding's in terniS.Of.bitter sarcasm and irony; and if it were
not that. tbe motive was perceptible to eVery,observant mind to
ba in reference to-the re=slection, he would say, that he
'might in truth say,it did betoken.a. very nia,lignant spirit on the
part,9.f the writer a the article. lie would only take the liberty
of,saying, that there: never; were
,a-r.y public proceedings that
'were more free froin taint Of airy._unture—of any interested mo-
itive, either diredt ar iiiiiireet,,en the part of the members of tie
committeethan were`the:proceedings in question. And that
he was prepared to 'Substantiate,. and could demonstrate if requi-
site ; and any "single individual member" of the council, who
Might leave the room with the srnaliest doubt- on his mind about
the correctness of toe proceedings of that committee, he would
again repeat that he would he ready, on any occasion, to shew to
him that there could not have been thatabuse, or any reason to do
anything that was inconsistent with honour and rectitude. The
proposition he had to bring forward was, however, of great
moment, if that circumstance had not called for it—it was of the
greatest moment, in a council constituted like theirs, that they
should be governed by right principles in the disposal of pro-
perty, and that all proceedings in such eases should be such as
nut to give room for cavilling or causing any remarks. They
ought also to be able to satisfy the public as well as themselves.
He felt satisfied that such would be the result of the motion he
was about to submit to them :—" That a committee be now ap-
pointed to report on the best mode of promoting publicity in the
sale of property belonging to the corporate estate." They
would agree with him that it was a subject which required deep

consideration.
Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE.—" Before Mr. Hope
brings forward his motion, would it not be better to bring ►t
before the next council ? Because, by a standing order of the
council, all our committees expire on the 9th of November."
He did not oppose the motion, but, as all committees would so
shortly expire, he thought it would be a mere loss of time now
to appoint a committee.
Mr. Councillor RATHRONE moved that the question be ad-
journed till the next council. He was sure it must be obvious

that one third of the council were going out, and they could
not say how many would be re-elected. lie thought it would
be rather diirespectful to the in-coming council to appoint a
committee now.

Mr. Councillor Mouncitorr begged leave to second the
motion. _ _ _

Mr,. Councillor Hopp, said, .as he was appealed to individu-
ally by Mr. Lawrence, he would merely say that he would
leave himself in the hands of the council ; hut, i❑ so doing so,
he would repeat that ho was anxious the committee should he
appointed on the present occasion; because, when questions
had., been postponed, they had never afterwards come before
thitm.

The subject was then postponed till next council.
THE MAYOR'S ♦DDRESS.

The MAYOR here rose, and said—" This is the last time
shall have the honour of addressing tha present council. I take
this opportunity of addressing you, because you are aware we
are going to lose five or six of our members. As this is the last
time I shall have the opportunity of addressing them, I wish to
say a few words. In doing so, I feel more embarrassed than I
have felt since I have taken the chair. (Applause.) On being
appointed to. an arduous and novel task to me, I was quite
aware of the responsibility which I took upon myself, or rather
which you conferred upon me. I do assure you I appreciate
the attentions which, I can truly say, I have invariably suet
with. I felt from previous experience, and lam sure you are
all aware of it, that the proceedings of a numerous body like
this should be conducted with order and regularity; and I
therefore have taken the liberty to suggest, from time to time,
certain regulations which have received your favour, and on
Which we have acted to the present day; because, in so doing,
I was convinced that the business of the council would be con-
ducted better, and that its results would be more satisfactory
out of'doors, •.1 felt anxious that this large body should have
the character of mature and cautious deliberation in its pro-
ceedings. If I have appeared, at any time, to bear hard upon
any individual member of this council, in enforcing rules of
order, I trust ho will forgive me, and think that I did it for the
best. Whenever I have had occasion to speak, it has been
wholly from a strict desire to preserve that order which is for
the advantage of us all. I feel assured, at the same time, that
in enforcing order 1 have been ably supported. Gentlemen,
the honour you have conferred upon use is one I shall never
forget. The constant feeling which has animated me during
the 'year has been, to discharge my duty with credit to myself,
and with credit to you. (The Mayor sat down amidst loud
cheering and applause which lasted souse time.)
Mr. Councillor JOHN HOLMES said, he should beg to move
the cordial thanks of the Council to the present Mayor, as many
meidbers of the Council might not be present at the next meet-
ing.
Several members simultaneously seconded the motion.
Mr. Councillor AIK IN said he intended to have seconded the
motion, as he could, perhaps, speak with less bias than many
members the Council, as he was one of the retiring members.
lie linust bear his tribute to the manner in which the Mayor
had •conducted himself, which bad been a great advantage to
the community. He would say that he had set an example
worthy of being followed by every successor. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. Councillor It ATEIBONG could not give a silent vote on
the oocasion.. -Ile did hope that this vote would not be consi-
dered a precedent for 'mere formal votes for the future. It was
a vote' for the first reform mayor of the corp nation, and 1 he first
reform rintaor had had very great difficulties to contend with ;
and therefore he ::yea entitled to a special acknowledeement from
them.... , • .
Mr; Councillor JORDAN said, haying had the honour of pro-
.
posing the mayOr,•as-mayer; he claimed a little merit to him-
self ferhaving iti."ade that',Seleetions4laughtee)—and the council
atipi.,Mag' of it. ' (Cheers.) ; lie Welt the opportunity to tell
thent- tna- pride and gtatification he had in being an humble
aCieifib'e'r of that,referin whe had done so much for the
town ell-sii;crPunl; and he hoped that such)nenibers would he
sa.e-)0,ey04 us had gerVed hisneStli`and as he had iu
s • ,
• COudiciller:l4-: the reporters Who,
• . • • .• • •
iti
,
thiit'icii"tua„could net-apealt.fortheins'eliea, he begged to offer
theirki.ol;:sto.tl-fe ma); Or. far Ins Uniferni. conduct towards them.
thev'hait handed He utiderisWd itribute of respect,
and'he*.ivionrY..iorry llsat his own rePerie r:W as absent on other
businessbusiness'and could •
Mr, Coupeillni •Tse, q)P49v4liy-fo'r.the,purpOse. of pub-
forward.th'e dueument2OlUded to,
rTi.o.,?,l4.Txtaaid.,the tribute of respeafrom;the reporters, to
which Mr•!S•ntithTbad,alluded,ivras entirely a matter between
those g q tie frig n and himself, and which he:had acknowledged.
lThe Mayor then 15owed -to the council and retired; and Mt.
Alderman lir9wit•tOok the chair.
Mr. Councillor Attars said he should wish that something more
substantial'sbould be presented to the Mayor than the vote of
thanks proposed. ' He had been thinking what it ought to be.
The.two paintings which he saw • in that room reminded him
that the likeness of the first reform mayor ought to be taken,
and that the mayor be requested to sit for it. Perhaps it would
be better to do this by individual subscription, and he should be
glad to subscribe his mite.
A number of the .members said they should be very glad, as
individuals, to subscribe towards this object.
'Mr. Councillur:AmiN said he never meant for one moment
that one-penny should come from' the council.
Mr. Alderman BKOWN hoped that the subscription would not
be confined entirely to the council.
Mr. Councillor MoaEcitorr thought the subscriptiot ought
to be confined entirely to the council.
Mr. Councillor E. Bturrti hoped it would not be necessary
to go to London for an artist. There were many of great ability
in the town.
The TOWN-CLERK then read the resolution of thanks to the
Mayor, which he had drawn up.
Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE begged to move that the
word " impartiality" he embodied in it.
The following resolution: was then read by the Town-clerk
and unanimously adopted:— •
" That the most cordial thanks of this council be presented
to William WalliAce-Ctirrie; Esq., first mayor of Liverpool
under the municipal reform act, for the. zeal, impartiality,
talents, and urbanity With which he has presided over their de-
liberatioas, and has, throughout his mayoralty, maintained the
dignity-of the council andsadVanced- the best interests of the
borough committed iohis representation."
Apparently; evere gentle Man of the council then subscribed
their names to,a subscription list for the painting.
The following: gentlemen ware then elected as a committee
for Carrying out the intentiiins of the.ceuneil with regard to the
painting ;—Messrs....fordati; JOhn Hohnes, Barclay, Aikin, and
Tavlear:"
Mr. Aikin and I‘lr Jordan were then deputed to request
the attendance of the Mayor.
• ,
On re-entering the. room, the Mayor was received by the
council rising..
eating to
Mr. loos then said he was the organ of communicating
him a resolution 'to which the, council had unanimously agreed.
The Tesvx-c r.tints then read over the above resolution mark
he MA YOE then said be begged to Omni'. them forhmseh he bad
of their' approbation, and to assure thern that,t
never' forget
ceased to preside over their. counsels he shouldadd that all he
this tribute of their respect. . He would also,
ss he had been
could have done would have been nothing
unuleations.
so kindly and uniformly supported in his yeg
Chet Mayor said,
Mr: Alderman BRovvN then, addressing
s a council,' yeit
though they could not act in their capacity
that he • a mil( do
in
their individual capacity they had to requehs
them the honour to sit for his portrait—the ecrartisthis
to be deter-
mined upon by a committee appointed Burin, ht absence.
Mr. AI KIN said as one of the committee, they would consult
time he would wish this object
the desire of the Mayor as to the
to he carried into effect.
l
The MAYOR, who- appeared greaty affected, said he should
certainly not refuse his consent to an application made in en
flattering and gratifying a manner to him—and so far beyond
his deserts. In doing so he considered that he should be con-
tributin, to hand down a record of the era which had called
then-) into existence. Ile attributed this honour merely to the
accidental circumstance of his having presided over the first
reform council.

The cnuncil then separated, at two o'clock--beiug adjourned
till the 9th of November:

• The following is a copy of the tribute of respect to the
Mayor, presented during the morning, from the reporters pre-
sent, alluded to by Mr. Smith :

"To W. WALLACE CURRIE, ESQ., MAYOR.

" We, the undersigned, Reporters of the LiverpoOl Press,
at the termination of your mayoralty, cannot refrain from ex-
pressing our sense of the uniform urbanity and courtesy which
you have ever shown to us, whilst in the discharge of our duties,
and our obligations to you for the facilities you have always
afforded to us "

T. C. FOSTER, Standard.
J. G. JONES.
DAVID ROSS, Chronicle.
J. B. HERBERT.
(Being the Reporters present.)
" Dated, Council-recon, October 31st, 1836."

(Signed)