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snore connected with the fame of 111 r. Huskisson; and which
would also be better adapted to display the merits of that ad-
mirable statue as a work of art.
The communication was made to me in the very considerate
view of first consulting my feelings as to such a change. Al-
though highly gratified by the motives which had influenced
this proposal, I have yet found myself reluctant to give it my
sanction. •
Perhaps some of the subscribers to this beautiful memorial
might share in such reluctance, and feel that the removal of
the statue from its present sanctuary, would be to interfere
with the special, nay, even sacred, purpose to which they had
been pledged—a pledge which they have indeed redeemed in
a manner equally honourable to themselves and to him whose
memory they have so beautifully and so touchingly illustrated.
It is possible that sojne such feelings might arise, to which,
as any other objections on the part of the subscribers, all de-
ference would be due. But, I venture to hope, that any diffi-
sulties of this nature, or and cause for contending opinions,
would be avoided, should 1 be so happy as to be permitted to
occupy this suggested site by a statue of Mr. Husktsson, either
similar to, or of equally appropriate design with the one in

question.
I earnestly solicit the consent of the council to this request,
not only as the result most gratifying to my own feelings, but
as affording, likewise, I dare to hope, the entirely unobjec-
tionable means of carrying into effect the intentions and
wishes of those who have thus desired additionally to honour
the memory, as well as to perpetuate the fame of Mr. Hus-
kisson.
I beg of you, sir, to excuse, and to entreat for me, of the
other gentlemen of the council, that they will overlook my
ignorance of any more fitting terms or manner of this appli-
cation, should I have employed either iirproperly. And I
venture again to urge my anxious wishes for that permission
which I so earnestly desire to obtain.
I have the honour to remain, with the greatest respect, sir,
your obedient humble servant,

EMILY HUSKISSON.
To the Worshipful the Mayor, Liverpool.
Mr. Councillor LA ssaLL said, that after the beautiful letter
which had been read, one feeling only, he felt assured, could
pervade the whole council. He should not presume to say
one word about Mr. Huskisson, whose merits were far beyond
his praise, but proceed at once to beg that they would in this
instance waive the usual form, and allow him to move the
resolution which he had framed. It was
"That this council, deeply sympathising with Mrs. Huskis-
son in the irreparable loss sustained by herself and the com-
munity in the death of Mr. Huskisson, on their part most
warmly accede to her proposition to place a statue to his
memory in the large room in the New Custom-house, and
that they will make the propeecommunications to the Lords
of the Treasury to obtain their concurrence in a measure
calculated to do honour to a name not only intimately con-
nected with the commerce of the country, but to this town
especially, by carrying down to posterity its connexion with
that distinguished and lamented statesman."
Every one would readily acknowledge that the beautiful statue
of Mr. Huskisson, by Gibson, was placed in a bad situation.
He, amongst others, had felt sorry that so noble a work should
remain in such an obscure place, and, as one of the subscri-
bers, he might obtain its removal to a more eligible spot, under
the dome of the new Custom-house. It was necessary, how-
ever, before this step was taken, that the feelings of the widow
of the illustrious statesman should be consulted, because, if
she had the slightest objection, the proposal would at once
be done away with. He accordingly wrote to Mrs. us-
kisson on the subject, and in her answer she seemed unwilling
that the beautiful statue should be removed from its hal-
lowed site, audio prefer, if that met the wishes of the gentle-
men who had moved in the affair, that another, the work ol
the same sculptor, might be erected in the new situation
pointed out. The letter placed him in some difficulty, for the
erection of another statue had not been originally contem-
plated by hint, and he therefore felt it right that so important
a subject should no longer be managed by an individual like
him, but be entrusted to the authorities of the town. The
letter to the mayor, which had just been read, was the result
of what he had done.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE seconded the motion, in doing
which he passed a high eulogium upon the character of the
departed statesman.
The motion was carried unanimously.
OBSERVATORY IN LIVERPOOL.
Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN, after briefly alluding to the
advantages which would result from having an observatory
in the port, and stating that the memorial of the Literary and
Philosophical Society had pointed out the top of the new
Custom-house as an eligible site for one, moved that a spe-
cial committee should be appointed to inquire into and re-
port upon the subject.
Mr. Councillor PLATT seconded the motion.
Mr. Councillor R. GLADSTONE asked whether the funds ol
the Corporation could be legally applied to the erection ol
an observatory.
The TOWN-CLERK replied that as the erection of an ob.
servatory would be a work of public utility, the surplus ie•
venue of the Corporation might be devoted to that as well as
to any other measure intended for the advantage of the in-
habitants.
Mr. .Councillor BOLTON remarked that he had no know-
ledge of any surplus revenue.
Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN said that it would be for
the committee to recommend whether it should be done by
applying to parliament for an act, or by the appropriatiou of
any surplus fund.
The mot ion was carried, and the following committee was
appointed :—Messrs. T.Case, Lassell, Mason, Cropper, Platt,
Rathbone, Lawrence, Carson, Currie, Leathoin, Jordan, and
Blackburn.
Mr. Alderman LEATHOM proposed Mr. Jordan the chair-
man of the Custom House Committee, lobe on the committee,
as a question might arise as to an observatory beiti' a
de-
formity to the dome.
Mr. Alderman EARLE observed that they might as well
place the bust of Mr. Jordan on the top of the Custom-house
as an observatory. (Laughter.)
As it was now past three o'clock, Mr. Councillor J. Smut'
moved that the council should adjourn. There was another
motion to bring forward, of which notice had been given, but
as it is a regulation that no new business should be introduced
after three o'clock, the council consented to the proposed
adjournment.

LIME-STREET WARD. - DINNER TO AMBROSE
LACE, ESQ.

On Wednesday evening last, the conservative municipal
electors of Lime-street Ward invited Ambrose Lace, Esq.
to dine with them, at the Bath Arms Hotel. About eighty
gentlemen sat down to a most excellent dinner. Mr. ltobt.
Rigby occupied the chair, and Mr. Jas. Owen the vice-chair.
In the room we observed Ambrose Lace, Esq T., M. Glad-
stone, Esq. (late candidate for South Toxteth Ward), Mr.
Councillor Joseph Cooper, Mr. Councillor George Wright,
Mr. Councillor Isaac Holmes, Mr. Councillor John Smith,
John North, Esq., James Carson, Esq., Thos. Pennington,
Esq., - Sanders, Esq., John Formby, Esq., Mr. Wilkin-
son (vice-president of the Tradesmen's Conservative Asso-

elation).
The large room at the Bath Arms was ornamented with a
number of tlags and banners, and in the centre of the room
was hung a Union Jack, with the number of voters who
polled at the last election-286.inseribed on it.
Mr. Holden and an excellent company of glee singers in-

creased the harmony of the meeting:
The cloth having been removed, and" Nan nobis Domine"
sung,
The CHAIRMAN _proposed the usual loyal toasts—" The
Queen," with three times three. Anthem—" God save the
Queen." " The Queen Dowager and the Royal Family,"
with three times three cheers. Glee—" My dear Mistres,,."
" Our glorious constitution in church and state." (Rap-

turous (leering.)
The CHA RAI AN hoped this toast would not be passed with.
out an acknowledgement, and called upon Mr. T. M. Glad.

stone to respond to it.
Mr. T. M. GLADSTONE then rose amidst loud applause.
He said, having been unexpectedly called upon to respond
to the toast which theyihad drunk with so much enthusiasm,
he could assure them with as much zeal as it had been given
froM the chairman, with the same he received it.. (Hear.)
And although he was nut prepared to enter, with sufficient
detail, on a subject of so much importance, he should yet be
most happy to do it: for he thought that, if one thing more
than another had tended to elevate this country both
in morality and religion, and also in its standing amongst
the nations of the earth, it was the connexion of the
state of this country with the Church. (Loud cheers.)
It was this conjunction which had elevated the country to the
position which it holds. And if he might be allowed by gra-
dation to show the necessity of conjunction between the state
and the church, he would ask any man, if, in his own family,
he did not require religion there ? Did he not require some
system of morality-and religion by which he could govern his
family, to effect that unanimity which must prevail in fami-
lies if they would be happy ? Without such unanimity, and
some standard of religion to go by, no family could be happy;
consequently every man must desire religion.—( Hear.) Of
families were towns composed; of towns and rural districts
were counties composed, and of counties or large divisions of
country were countries composed. What was therefore good
for a family was good, by gradation, for a country. He, there-
fore, contended that it was of essential consequence that reli-
gion should be supported by the state, as by it individuals,
families, and the country were benefitted. The church of
England, like all human institutions, was liable to infirmi-
ties, and abuses would creep in • but these might be reme-
died. The church itself demanded their support, and ought
not to be cried down. They ought to maintain it as the reli-
gion of the majority. If it were nut maintained, in his opi-
nion the time was not far distant, when the scenes of carnage
which had been acted at the French revolution would dis-
gaace this country. He therefore strongly advocated the
union of the church and state. He trusted that the church
would maintain its purity; and in that case they bad nothing
to fear from the most designing persons. (Cheers.)
Song—" With a jolly full bottle."
Mr. Isaac HOLMES suggested to the vocalists that they
ought not to say, "May all plotting reformers be left in the
lurch ;" but all " plotting deceivers." Those who styled
themselves " reformers" professed reform only for deception,
and he liked things called by their right names.
" Lord Lyndhurst and the House of Peers." Three times
three.
Mr. W. SANDARS responded to the toast. There was no
person in the kingdom more fit to be looked up to for the
preservation of church and state than Lord Lyndhurst. His
talents were unrivalled in the present day, and he would
exert them to the utmost in a good cause. This would be
proved by his conduct next session in the House of Lords.
—(Cheers.)
Glee—" Hail, Smiling Morn."
" Sir Robert Peel and the Conservative Members of' the
House of Commons."—Three times three, and one cheer
more.
Glee—" Life's a Buinper',
" The Army and Navy."—Three times three.
Glee—"To all you Ladies now on Land."
Mr.Tazt.ocx briefly referied to the imbecile conduct of Loid
Minto with regard to the Navy, and to the attention which
Russia and France were paying to that branch of their service,
and intimated his fears that this country would not long sus-
tain her ancient character of Queen of the Seas. It was the
boast of Mr. Canning, when questioned in the House of Com-
mons about the state of our naval strength at seine station
abroad, that wherever a foreign power had a force, he had al-
ways one still more powerful in the same quarter. Let the
present ministry say this if they could.
"The Duke—the Hero of a Hundred Fights,"—four times
four, and one cheer more. Glee, "'The mighty conqueror."
The Cita temaN called for a bumper, and after passing a
high eulogium on the character and exertions in the conser-
vative cause of the unsuccessful candidate for Lime-street
Ward, gave
"Ambrose Lace, Esq., our worthy guest,"—four times four.
Mr. LACE, on rising, was much cheered. He said, that
when he saw such an assemblage before him, and heard the
toast, to which be was thankful to respond, proposed and re-
ceived in so enthusiastic a manner, he could not allow him-
self to suppose, for a moment, that the spirit of conservatism
was either dead or dying in the laud. It was true that some
faint-hearted people were accustomed to say, " Oh ! give it
up ; what's the use 'of trying?" Why, if their opponents
acted on that principle they would have had no need of exer-
tion, but would have been victorious. Their opponents had
taught them, not once, twice, nor thrice, that if they steadily
and energetically persevered they would accomplish their ob-
ject, Ile was quite satisfied, that if they could only disabuse
the public mind of the prejudices that had been created and
excited against the conservative cause by their opponents,
they would win—aye, even in that ward. Ii e had heard it said,
that the reformers gave the people their present political pri-
vileges. Ile denied it ; amid, would reply, that the reformers
were as unable to give the people any description of pri-
vileges, without the common sense of the nation, as was a
child. If they could do so, w' by had they not given them
annual parliaments, universal suffrage, and vote by ballot,
which were so long and loudly called for, but which were de-
cidedly contrary to the common sense of the nation ?—As
'regarded the old corporation system, it was admitted that
some change was required, but it was the people's own feel-

ing that gave it to them, and not the reformers or any other
body. Again, their opponents were accustomed to say that
the conservatives were unlit to hold office. He would not

draw a comparison, but he would say that they were quite as
fit as any reformer now in the town-council. If any benefi-
cial change was required, the conservatives could do it as
well as the reformers. if they looked at the acts of the mu-
nicipal council since the reformers had come into office, did
they not show, instead of a pure spirit, the greatest bigotry?
They would not keep a man whom they could do without, if
his opinions were known to be conservative, and they put
their friends into the vacant places, alter the very system
that they condemned. They imputed to the conservatives all
sorts of bad motives; and pretended to believe that if they
were in power they would lay 30 or 40 Per cent on the taxes,
which would have to be paid merely through their pleasure of
spending money. Why had they not common sense as well
as the reformers ? (Cheers.) Could they not take care of
their affairs as WelLas they could ? ( Hear.) He could_see__ . . .
nothing at all in the conduct of the reformers to induce him
to think that they were superior in any way to the conserva-
tives. There was another assertion advanced by their oppo-
nents, which seemed to have great weight with the electors,
viz., that the conservatives are not the friends of the people.
That phrase "friends of the people" was sadly abused ; but
he would put it to the people whether they had ever found.
the conservatives, in their public or private transactions, one
whit less liberal, or one whit less kind, to the poor? (Hear,
hear.) Mr. Lace here described the attention which Mr.
Rigby had paid to the necessities of the poor during the last
winter, and alluded to some misrepresentattons in which the
reformers habitually indulged against their opponents. He
then stated that by perseverance only could the ward be
won. It was necessary for the candidate to go amongst the
people for two months, from nine in the morning till five in
the evening, day by day' to disabuse Their minds of the false
impressions created by their opponents. This he felt would
take more time than he could spare, and therefore it was
not his intention to come forward again as a candidate.
He did not retire because he was afraid of defeat, for the
cause which he espoused was right and correct, the disgrace
was not to him, but to those who defeated hint. He might
have felt disgraced, if the elections had been lust on the ground
of any personal misconduct • but he knew that this was not
so, for almost every man whoi bad voted against had said, if
he would change his political principles he should go in tri-
umphantly. This he would not do. Had he gone to the
council he should have been untrammelled, and not been
called upon after every meeting to reply to the question,
"Why did you vote for so and so?" If he could not have
been trusted as the representative of the weld for three years,
without being called to account by his constituents, like the
political quack doctor that went about from ward to ward; if
that was the only way in which independence was to be gained,
he should certainly have despised it. After repeating his in-
tention to retire, and expressing a hope that sortie person
might be found who would be able to contest the ward more
successfully, he thanked his friends for their un wearied assist-
ance, and sat down amidst protracted cheering.
Mr. 'ten again rose, and after paying a deserved tribute
to the services of the chairman, proposed, " s,obert Rigby
Esq., the chairman." Three times three.
Mr. RiGny returned his acknowledgements, and pledged
himself that, if Mr. Lace would not stand again for the ward,
he would either come forward himself or find some one that
would do so. (Cheers.)
SONG.—The Old English Gentleman.
The CHAIRMAN proposed "The members for the county."
Mr. FORMBY rose to acknowledge the toast. The county
was exceedingly well represented : all the members were good
members, and exceedingly clever and honest teen;. and he
hoped they would long remain the members fur the county.
(Cheers.)
The CHAIRMAN proposed next—" The Members for the
Borough, Lord Sandon and Cresswell Cresswell, Esq."—
(Great cheering.)
Mr. CARSON rose to respond to the toast. He knew not
why he should have been called on to acknowledge the toast ;
but, if in the contests in which they bad been engaged, be
had been in any degree instrumental in securing the return
of these representatives, lie must express himself highly grate-
ful to them for this acknowledgment of it. He alluded to the
first municipal contest, when the wards had bean placed un-
der the management of the central conservative committee.
Lime-street ward had fallen to his especial care, and he de-
scribed the exertions for success which had been made, and
which, he was convinced, if persevered in, must at length end
in victory. The perseverance of the ward in contesting the
election hitherto had been gall and wormwood to their op-
ponents, who would be glad that the ward should be left
quietly to them, that the electors might remain in ignorance
of the practises of their party, with which, owing to the con-
tested elections they were made acquainted. They were told
of " justice for Ireland." Had they not a right to have jus-
tice for England? Was it not a fact that the majority of the
electors of England were conservatives? and was it not a
fact that they were governed by the Irish tail and had they
not a right to be rid of that tail, or to have its effects in some
degree prevented. They had only to persevere, and, so far
as the municipal elections were concerned, he was satisfied
the time was not far distant when conservative principle
would prevail in Liverpool. It was merely:- a question of
time. The condition of the town-council was not such as to
satisfy the town; they had not redeemed the pledges they
gave to the people. Some of t hem affected to despise the people.
It was really surprising that Mr. William Rathbone, who
had gained his notoriety entirely by the applause of the peo-
ple, should so utterly despise them now as boldly to assert, in
the face of day that the people had no right to petition—that
the council must shake off the people. Had they ever heard
anythisig so inconsistent? Tnis from a man who was never
so-happy as when breathing. the. foetid atmosphere of the
Clayton-square mob. , The right of petitioning, according
to him, was to be done away with. Another extraordinary
act of inconsistency in him was his abuse of the press. He
could only give him a warning, that if he persevered, in-
stead of being returned two years hence as a triumphant
candidate, he would have to walk into the council-room in
the seedy second hand gown of an alderman. (Cheers and
laughter.) He concluded with thanking them fur the honor
they bad done him.
'the CHAIRMAN then gave "The Conservative Members
of the Town-council." (Cheers.)
Mr. JOHN SMITH being called on, rose to respond to the
toost. He felt highly honoured by the toast which had
been given to his conservative colleagues. In the two years
that he had been in the council he had been governed by au
anxious desire to promote the interests and welfare of the
town. (Cheers.) Constituted as the council now was, how-
ever, -whatever exertions were made by the conservative
members were rendered of no avail, by what Mr. Canning
had termed "the silent eloquence of a vote." He hoped
that those of the electors who had been lukewarm would ex-
ert themselves, and send a fresh cohort of conservatives into
the council at the next election. He trusted that they should
see Mr. Lace in the council for some other ward, and that
the time would come when Lime street would be represented
partially by conservatives. (Cheers.)
Mr. Councillor IsAAc HOLMES being called on, also rose
to the,toast. , In the days of his ignorance he had once can-
vassed the ward for Mr Ewart. If ever he came again, they
should send-Lim about his business. He (Mr. Holine) was
now in the council. He had told them he was soliciting the
honour of going into a wasp's nest, and a wasp's nest lie had
found it; but when they tried to sting him, be tried to sting
them again. (Hear, and laughter.) The sting of the socinian
was indeed bitter. They should have seen whin he men-
tioned the name of a respectable clergyman, the man who
had been a twelvemonth like a parrot with its mouth sticlied ;
(laughter) it was then opened, and they should have seen with
what delight he cast. a stigma, not on one clergyman, but on
two. They should have seen the malicious grill with which
it was given, and heard the demoniac laugh which rang
through the council-room at the mere mention of the name
of a clergyman. (" Shame.") Mr. Holmes then contended
that there was a greatly disproportionate number of sociniaus
in the council; and that on the principle of equal represen-
tation, the ninth part of a councillor, and the twelfth
.part of
an alderman would be a fair representation for the socirnans ;
instead of which, there were fifteen socinians in the council.
He was told that he was obnoxious in the council. He hoped
they would send a few more obnoxious men there. (Great
cheers ) They were told that the electors had degraded them-
selves in electing such men as him, and would not put there
on committees; but that was not the cause; there was some-
thing which they would learn there which they would not al-
together like. ( Hear.) He did hope that the time was fast
approaching when the town would he rid of the destructives ;
if the constituents in future elections only did-their duty,. he
had no doubt of such a result. He concluded with propostbg
" Her Majesty's ministers; and may they retire from a si-
(nation for which they are totally unfitted." (Cheers.)
Mr. WRiGHT also briefly returned thanks. He exhorts'd
the electors to persevere, and they would succeed in sending
a member to the Council for the ward.
Mr. LACE, after highly eulogising the exertions of the
canvassers, proposed "'The Vice-chairman, Committee, all
Canvassers, and the 286 Electors Who voted for him." (Great
cheering.) if all the Conservatives had -come forward, a'
they ought to have done, the 286 votes would .have been a
much higher figure. He had not, however, resorted to the
intimidation of calling on voters twelve or fifteen times, a'
had been done by their opponents, under the pretext of "e"-
lightening" them.
The V ICE-CH a 'LIMAN, at considerable length, acknowle4-
ed the toast, and described the exertions of the counnittee,
and the independent manner in which Mr. Lace had come
forward.
The CHAIRMAN proposed " The Guests who haise bonne'
ed us with their company."
Mr. JOHN GLADSTONE, at considerable length and with
eloquence, returned thanks.
Mr. KILSHAIV proposed "The Conservative Press." Le° g,
might the conductors of it live, for they were all good men'
tiers of society..
Mr. PATTISSON, of the LIVERPOOL STANDARD, briefly
acknowledged the compliment.
Mr. WILKINSON proposed " The Liverpool Tradesmen's
Conservative Association." (Cheers.) •/,
Mr. CARSON was called on to respond to the toast, a
concluded with proposing " the health of Mr. S. Holule•
(Cheers.) 111 r•
" Mr. Kilshaw's good health" was then proposed bY -

Smith. .
Mr. KILSHAW acknowledged the compliment, and Pt;
posed " The Liverpool Operative Conservative Aso°
tion."
Mr. ROBERTS acknowledged the toast.
Mr. DAvis, jun., proposed "The Lancashire Witch
e6'
and the
JOHN Maids of
ST Cabria." (Ch.)
Mr. GLADONEm
acknowledgedsthe toast for the
ladies.
" The Town and Trade of Liverpool" was then given, and
the chairman vacated the chair at eleven o'clock.
The company broke up soon after, after spending a sec°
and delightful evening.

STATE OF Tuann.—The continued advance in the Pri:s
of cotton at Liverpool has, of course, rendered the spinner,
unwilling to sell, except at improved rates, which, howeivit''
te
ale very difficult to be obtained, and, consequently, very i
business has been done. The buyers of twist generally se.eit,
to feel no confidence in the steadiness of the cotton tintEketg
and, consequently, but only* supply their absolute wan.ed
which, at the present season, ire very small. In manufactul.v
goods There is still a fair business doing, and at pretty
factory prices.— Manchester Guardian:. ical
" Hannay and Dietriehsen's Almanack, Astrollon'we
Ephemeris, and Book of General Information for 18,39.-- cot
are positively at a loss for words to express our astonisbln, t
at the unparelleled comprehensiveness of the Almanack
published by Messrs. Hannay and Dietrichsen, for the col
ing year. There is scarcely a subject iu the usual routino
events to which we do not find reference in this boob:om,
°c
pages, at the insignificant cost of fid.,; a sum which Ne '
can little mote than cover the -pricarof the paper. est-
graphical and chronological tablcsjare exceedingly teldes,
jog, particularly those for the resent year. T
lentil
eclipses, Sze. are duly noticed, id the progress of F,a,o-
comet during the remainder of the present year, and Can
hart's in 1839, are trace y r agrams of the heavens• r
have the list of the rota of eholds; the House of Lo
giving the titles of the Pe a the family name, the mott
js
the Peers, and date of cr t on; the House of Comilonsthe
given twice, first alphah t catty, secondly arranged bv•
places the members ropy .nt ; the whole of the aroi.Ydep•
giving the officers' names • thabetically arranged, (a det-';
tom long wanted) with the dates of connuission,•ond we.oo-
- the officer holds; the navy list is given in likeenor,
ner; the bankers, the provincial and etpolitan
poration dignities; ambassadors and c monsruols; oni;ve's beet
the list of fairs throughout the kingdom is• by far thei,
ever printed ; and in short, as we hare before observe Ted to
formation upon every possible topic of interest is affel'...,3oy
the public in this most useful pamphlet. Messrs. I"of the
and Dictrichsen have certainly put all compct itiou out _ther,
field, for, we should say, it would be impossible for atiY,,'"ost,'
firm to produce a similar compilation at five times the
—Morning Chronicle, Oct. 28. • •ellonse'
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