The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1840-10-20 00:00:00

RADICAL VERACITY. (?)

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.
SlR.—Observing in the Journal, of to-day, a report of a
speech delivered by Mr. Wm. Hardy, at a meeting of Re-
formers, held in West Derby Ward, last night, in which he
asserts, that my brother-in-law, Mr. Froste, had discharged
his (Mr. H. s) son, in consequence of the vote which he (Mr.
Hardy) had given some years ago, I beg leave, through the
medium of your paper, in the absence of Mr. Froste, who is
at present in Canada, to give to such statement the most un-
qualified contradiction. Mr. Froste, to my knowledge,
never did interfere in political matters, nor did he care one
straw how Mr. Hardy or any other individual might think
proper to vote.

fenclose a note on the subject from Mr. Ashlin, Mr.
Froste's present partner, and who was with him at the time
alluded to, which fully bears me out in what I have here
stated.--I am, Sir, your obedient servant,
Hanover-street, Oct. 17, 1840. JOHN SMITH.

Exchange-buildings, 17th Oct., 1840.
MY DEAR SIR,—In reply to your note of to-day, calling
my attention to a statement in the Liverpool Journal, re-
ported to have been made at a meeting of the Reformers of
West Derby Ward, last evening, by Mr. Wm. Hardy, I can
feel not the least difficulty in affirming; that Mr. Hardy's son
was not discharged from Mr. Froste s service for the cause
assigned bf his father, inasmuch as Mr. F. was not aware, at
the time alluded to, of the manner in which Mr. Hardy voted,
nor would he at any time trouble himself to make any such
inquiries, nor suffer such considerations to influence him in
the slightest degree in his conduct towards any individual.--
Yours, very truly. I. ASHLIN.
John Smith, Esq.
[Mr. Hardy's assertion (how apposite the junta-position
of these terms refutes itself most completely. He says
--ttst his son has een out of a situation for eight years; and
yet he has the hardihood to declare that he was dismissed
because the father voted for Mr. Smith's opponent in 1836 !
Those who invent such statements ought to pOssess—long
namories.—ED. L. STANDARD.]

WARD MEETINGS.

LIME-STREET WARD.

A very numerous and highly respectable meeting of the
conservative burgesses of this ward was held last evening in
the Assembly-room attached to the York Hotel, Williamson-
square, for the purpose of nominating a fit and proper person
as a candidate for the representation of the ward at the forth-
coming municipal election. Mr. Thomas Blackburn is the
retiring member for the ward, and as he is one of the ablest
men of the party, the :whigs, no doubt, will use the most
strenuous exertions for his re-election. Mr. Kilshaw, how-
ever, will be found a formidable opponent, and if the con-
servatives do but bestir themselves as they did at the last
election their success is certain.
JAMES ASPINALL, Esq., was called to the chair. They
had met for the purpose of nominating a candidate in the
conservative interest for Lime-street ward. He congratulated
the meeting upon the fact, that, as the period of election ap-
proached the apathy of the conservatives decreased. (Hear.)
He had 'lately addressed several ward meetings, but he had
never seen so large and influential a meeting as Lime-street
ward presented this evening. He congratulated them upon
this on two accounts. In the first place, because it showed
they were strong enough ; and in the second place, that they
ware determined to oust their present "liberal" representa-
tive from the Town-council. Far be it from him to say any-
thing against any individual, but he must make a few obser-
vations on the political character of Mr. Blackburn. Two sub-
jects now engrossed the attention of Liverpool, namely, the
system of education in the corporation schools and the ware-
house question. He would deal with the first. Mr. Blackburn
was de chairman of the Education Committee, and he con-
tended that no dissenter from the Church of England had a
right to dictate to the town of Liverpool what the education
of the poorer classes should be. (Hear, hear.) If he (the
chairman) should ever have the honour of being returned to
that council, he should conceive it the greatest victory he
had ever gained to carry the sale of the Corporation Schools
(hear, hear) ; for the education carried on in those schools
was not consistent with the character of the town. He was
by no means au enemy of education, but if the poor were to
be educated by the corporation, let the money be distributed
to each class, whether churchmen or dissenters, and then it
would be fair ; there would then be no reason to complain
on any side ;—but he would not consent to allow the Popish
priests to turn out the Protestant clergymen from teaching
their own Protestant poor. (Immense cheering.) If the
Protestant poor were to be instructed, let them be instructed
by their own Protestant clergy ; and let the children of dis-
senters be taught in their own way ;—but let the money that
was given by the corporation, if there were any scruples, be
properly divided amongst them. Let not the present system
be continued. (Hear, hear.) As Mr. Blackburn was the
chairman of the Education Committee which promoted that
system, he (Mr. Aspinall) called upon the meeting individu-
ally and collectively to turn him (Mr. B.) out from the re-
presentation of that ward. (Cheers, and cries of 'We will.')
An to the corn-laws, and other legislative measures which
had engaged the attention of the Town Council last session,
(he believed one of their members had given notice of a mo•
Lion respecting the privileges of parliament)—(loud laugh-
ter)—he (the chairman) had nothing to do with them ; but,
as a member of the old corporation (hear, hear), he must
protest against that breach of faith now going on in the pro-
posal of building warehouses on the dock quays with public
money. He had said before, and he now repeated, that if
the present Town Council did use the public money for that
purpose, they ought to release those individuals to whom the
old corporation had granted leases on condition of building
werehouse. This was an important feature in the warehouse
question. (Hear.) Several individuals about the King's
Dock, who had built warehouses according to their stipula-
tions with the old corporation, had petitioned the present
corporation to exonerate them, in consequence of their in-
tending to build warehouse with the public money. No re-
gard, however, was paid to their remonstrances, and thus they
would be forced to compete with the corporation ,who were using
public money to a deadloss. (Hear.) Was this just? (No, no.)
With regard to the question as it now stood, he left it to the
merchants of Liverpool. It had assumed a new feature,
which those who went into the town council would discuss
with better effect than he should; but he would express his
feeling—that it was hardly fair for one political party to cre-
ate this monopoly ; for it was a monopoly for the sake of pro-
moting their own political interests. (Cheers.) If it was
desirable that the land on the dock quays should be built
upon, it should be let to the highest bidder, and let the ware-
houses be built by companies or private individuals, and then
there would be a fair competition. But there would be no
competition if the warehouses were built by the dock com-
mittee. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. RIGBY, the present conservative member for the ward,
rose to move the first resolution. Ile said he came before
his constituents to propose a man whom he had known for
the last 25 years to be a man of standing, of industry, and
integrity. (Cheers.) They all knew that he (Mr. Rigby)
was no speaker ; but he hoped and trusted that his friend,
like himself, would be a worker, if they would give him any
thing to do. (Cheers.) The worthy member concluded by
moving the first resolution, to the effect that John Kilshaw,
Esq., was a fit and proper person to represent the ward in the
town council.

Mr. JOHN WRIGHT then came forward amidst loud
cheering. He had great pleasure he said in seconding the
proposition, as he knew that Mr. Kilshaw had been a hard
and honest worker in their cause. He had known him for
many years as an upright and honest man, and a downright
Englishman. If elected he would look to the interests of
the town, and particularly to the interests of the ward. He
would not be like those liberal gentlemen who took upon
themselves the task of giving their opinions upon all sorts of
legislative enactments ; it would be quite sufficient for hint
to look after the interests of the town. He (Mr. Wright)
believed that there were many well meaning individuals in
the Town-council • but they wished to be thought much
greater men than they really were—they wished to be above
representing a mere ward in Liverpool, and to be actors in a
higher sphere. He thought, however, that their situation
was quite high enough for them, and the town[would be
obliged to them if they would attend to their proper duties
instead of running away after things that did not concern
them, and using language he had been sorry to hear. He
must be allowed to say that, although the old corporation
had been so much abused, they never forgot in their discus-
sions to speak to each other as gentlemen. He agreed most
cordially with the resolution, and hoped that every one in
that meeting would do their utmost to return to the Town-
council a man like Mr. Kilshaw—who would do his duty to
them ; by that means they would be doing their duty to him.
(Loud cheers.)
Mr. KII.SHAW then rose amidst loud cheering. He said
he felt proud of the honour they had just conferred upon
him, by nominating him as a candidate for the representa-
tion of this ward in the Town-Council. If he could be of
any service to the burgesses there, he should have very great
pleasure in doing all in his power to serve them uprightly,
honestly, and steadily during his time of servitude. (Cheers.)
He was no speaker, and therefore they must take the will
for the deed, but he trusted he should be a good worker.
(Loud cheers.)
Mr. DANIEL LEDSON, after a very eloquent speech, in
which he exposed the proceedings of the Protector Society,
and adverted to the principal topics among our local politics,
moved the next resolution.
• Mr. SANDARS seconded the resolution, and highly
eu-
logized Mr. Kilshaw's fitness to represent the ward.
Mr. J. OWEN, chairman of the ward, next addressed the
meeting in an energetic strain, and congratulated the bur-
gesses of that ward on the progress conservatism had made
within the last six years. He said that if they would exert
themselves as much as they did at the last election, Mr. Kil-
shaw's election would be secured. Alluding to the warehouse
question, he said it was clear it had been raised for political
purposes, because the great thorn in the side of the radicals
was the blue jackets—whose votes they wanted to neutralize.
He contended, however, that the blue jackets, the old freemen
of this town had a right and title far superior to the Irish.
They had sought to put the blue jackets down, and swamp
the constituency—but they had been thwarted : they had
been gloriously frustrated ;—he trusted that the conserva-
tives would never give them the chance to rise again. In-
deed, if they would but work as they did 1 ast year, the same
results must take place. (Cheers.) He then moved a reso-
lution to the effect that an active canvass be commenced on
behalf of Mr. Kilshaw.
Mr. BIRKETT seconded the resolution.
The thanks of the meeting were then presented to the
chairman, who, in acknowledging the compliment, congra-
tulated the burgesses on the defeat the protectors had expe-
rienced in the revising barristers' court during the nay. The
meeting then separated after giving three cheeers for the
Queen,—the Duke,—and the Chairman.