The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1841-08-17 00:00:00

REPLY OF THE REV. T. D. GREGG, A.M

HONOURED BRETHREN,—Ten thousand thanks for your
address. 1 recognise in it the breathings of that spirit that
has made England " the envy of surrounding nations and
the admiration of the world." Yea, brethren, it is the very
same bold, fearless, influence-despising, world-overcoming
Fpirit which has led you to stand by me, when suffering re-
proach for duty's sake, which led your fathers " to glorify
the Lord in the fires,"—" to bear their testimony before
kings and not be ashamed," and indelibly to brand " BLAS-
PHEMOUS" and " IDOLATROUS" upon the fore-
head of the Scarlet Whore, regardless of anathemas sus-
tained by the arms of the greater part of the potentates of
Christendom. Ten thousand thanks for your noble ad-
dress !

Some have tcld me that though supplicated by an injured
family, I ought not to have ventured to the nunnery—that
this was " not judicious," and that when there, I should
have employed a much more silken phraseology to the cowled
superioress of that bastile than I did. Why should we not
call it a bastile ?—truth is prevented from entering its gates,
the most rigorous surveillance of all communications from
within and from without is maintained, nor is any inmate
permitted to see the nearest friend without the presence of a
third person—l do well denominate it a bastile. Some have
told me, I repeat, that I should not have gone there ; or that
having gone there, I should have culled my words with
greater delicacy. Brethren, this is not your opinion, and I
rejoice at it ; 1 learned plain speaking in your favoured land ;
I believe that it is essential to the deliverance of Ireland
from the curse of popery, and I hold with you that I
was entitled to the protection of British law, when, in this
respect, with no sinister intention, with no rude feeling, but
with a conscientious desire to awaken a soul enthralled by the
chains of an enslaving superstition, I used the privilege of a
British freeman. To have refused the summons of the
afflicted family—to have coolly referred them to their attor- •
ney for redress, would certainly have been a very safe course
as far as it respected my personal convenience. Ido be-
lieve, however, that it would have been a course ill calculated
to strike terror into the soul of popery, or to elicit the en-
thusiastic cheers of the fathers and mothers, the sisters and
brothers of Liverpool, congregated together to sympathise
with me in thousands. Yes, protestant privilege was out-
raged in the treatment I received ; I thank God that He did
not allow it to be outraged with impunity.
Your address, your meeting, your enthusiasm, have fully
vindicated the judiciousness of my conduct.
You say well, brethren, popery requires but the opportunity
to rekindle the fires of persecution. Since it cannot answer
the arguments of its adversaries, its only security lies in
stopping their mouths. A system of lies and of absurdity,
which is universally abandoned when the spirit of freedom
leads its victims to examine into its pretensions, can only
subsist by trampling human liberty beneath its feet.
Our holy Catholic and apostolic Church is the parent of
constitutional liberty, because she is, under God, the source
of truth ; she glories in that freedom which, when rationally
exercised, is certain to multiply her disciples.
Never will England resume her proud position among the
nations—never will Englishmen be delivered from those ca-
lamities which at present afflict them—judicially afflict them
until popery is nationally cried down, protestantisna na-
tionally exalted, and, however millions may chafe, yea, and
rebel, the word of God and truth made the paramount rule
of the national policy. Faithful to principle, she may defy
the world in arms; forgetful of duty and ungrateful for pri-
vileges, she may look for disaster, defeat, and disappoint-
ment in every field of contest.
I know, brethren, that you agree with me. lam well ac-
quainted with your principles, your feelings, and your power
to give efficacy to both. May God grant that you may con-
tinue to pursue the glorious path that you have entered on,
and that you may be favoured so far as to see your efforts
crowned with the triumph of truth, and the overthrow of
destructive error within the British dominions.
We seek the overthrow of popery in order to confer inesti-
mable benefits on papists themselves. Again and again
thanking you, I remain, brethren,
Your faithful and obliged servant in Christ,
T. D. GREGG,
Chaplain of St. Nicholas Within, Dublin.
Dublin, August 10, 1841.

RAPID TRAVELLING BETWEEN LONDON
AND DUBLIN.

TO TIIE EDITOR OF SAUNDERS'S NEWS-LETTER

SlR,—Some days ago I observed a paragraph in your paper
headed as above, which, I observe, has been pretty generally
copied into the other Dublin papers. On first reading it
over I was under the impression that some great change had
been made by which the public would derive corresponding
advantages in time. A more attentive perusal, however, dis-
covered to my weak senses that there was some other object
in the paragraph beyond what appeared at first sight. The
fact is, under the new regulation for the line of packets re.
ferred to from Liverpool, the travelling public have gained
a considerable loss; for, instead of taking your seat, as
formerly, in London, at 8 30, p.m., and arriving comfortably,
in the same seat, at Liverpool, at seven the following morn:
ing, in time for the packet, you now have the delight of
changing your scat and your luggage four different
fferent times—
very pleasant, indeed, of a dark winter's l First,
Lon-
don and Birmingham Railway to Birmingham Grand Junc-
tion to Crewe, Chester and Crewe to Chester, and Chester
and Birkenhead, and arrive in Dublin in twenty.one hours
at soonest. Contrast this with my last trip from London. I
left town at 9 30, a.m., went all through to Liverpool with-
out change, arrived at 6 30, p.m., started in the evening mail
packet at 7 10, and was safely landed 1
at 6 30, next
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morning, just twenty-one hours.
ere, then, is the gain
to the public by the great change so blazoned forth in all the
Dublin papers?—l am, sir, yours,

AN OLD TRAVELLER.

A person in Perth had lately a canary hatched with only
one wing and one leg, which is as active and thriving 35 any
of its mates.

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MEETING OF THE ROYAL Br

At MOLLINGTON HALL, CHESHIRE

Mollington Hall, the seat of John Fielden, Esq., has been
a scene of festivity during the past week. On Friday the
Royal British Bowmen held their annual meeting at this
splendid residence, but we are sorry to record that
" The morning lowered, and heavily in clouds
Brought on the day."
In fact, the weather was so bad that at one time we were
afraid the archers must have given in to the elements ; but
when " a thousand hearts beat happily," it is not a trifle
that will mar their mirth. Everything was provided upon
the most liberal scale, and the company comprised the elite
of the county and the principality. Our return of the sports
will shew that " Cambria's fair daughters" bore off the prize.

The ground is admirably suited for the recreation ; an
well-known hospitality of the worthy host almost prec

the necessity of.stating, that everything was done to please
the palate, and add to the comfort, of the numerous visiters.
The company began to arrive soon after eleven o'clock,
and the shooting commenced at two. Amongst those pre-
sent we noticed the following :—Sir R. H. Cunliffe, Lady
Cunliffe, H. Cunliffe, Esq. ; E. Spading, Esq., of Pulton ;
Gubbins, Esq. ; E. L. Kenyon, Esq., Mrs. Kenyon, and
the Misses Kenyon, of the Lodge ; Sir B. Leighton, presi-
dent; —Parker, Esq., of Swiney, M.P. ; Lady Paramount,
Hon. Mr. L. Kenyon, J. Lovett, Esq., Colonel and Mrs.
Sainsbury, Miss Currie; Mr., Mrs., and Miss Roper, of
Plas Teg; Mrs. Williams, Gwerslyth; J. Townsend, Esq.,
Trevallans ;- T. Maunwaring, Esq., M.P., Marchweil Hall ;
Major and the Misses Swettenham, Rev. Ralph Congreve,
Charles Congreve, Esq., of Burton, R. Massie, Esq., Lady
and Miss Puleston, Rev. Arch. Clarke, Rev. W. Wrench
and lady, W. Blundell, Esq., of Crosby, R. N. Barnston,
Esq., and lady, of Crewe. Major and Mrs. Napier, Master
and two Misses Napier, L. Fielden, Esq., Rev. R. Massie
and lady, Miss Barnston, T. W. Eyton, Esq., J. W. Swan,
Esq., and lady, Rev. Thos. Heath, Miss Mawdesley, Rev.
Prebendary Slade, H. Hesketh, Esq., and lady, Rev. L.
Wynne, General and two Misses Glegg, Mrs. L. Townsend,
Mr. Latham, Mr. Ashton of Gayton, Rev. P. W. Hamilton
and lady, Mrs. H. Potts, A. Potts, Esq., and Miss Potts,
Miss Fletcher of Gwentbaylea, Rev. M. Thelwell and the
Misses Thelwell, Mrs. Garnett, Paul Panton, Esq., and
lady, P. Hunberston, Esq., and lady, Mr. and IVlrs. Lovalt
of Tramhill, Mrs. and Miss Egerton of Gresford, Mr. Leek,
Mr. Newcome of Gresford, the Misses Slade, Rev. W. West,
Mrs. West, and Miss West, of Stoke, Colonel, Mrs., and
Misses Glegg, Lady Cust and two Misses Cast, Sir G. Cust
aad the Misses Cust, Col. Tomkinson, Messrs. Robinson,
Clare, Lyon, Jackson, Edwards, Jones, &c., &c.
The first gentlemen's prize was won by Brooke Cunliffe,
Esq. ; the second by H. Leigh, Esq.
The ladies' first prize was won by Miss Thelwall; second,
Miss Egerton.
The gold medal was also awarded to Miss Thelwall ; se-
cond, Miss Fletcher.

TO THE MEMBERS AND FRIENDS OF THE
LIVERPOOL OPERATIVE PROTESTANT ASSO-
CIATION.

Having seen a placard posted upon the walls of the town,
professing to emanate from our association, and signed J.
Leatherbarrow, secretary, calling a meeting to be held in the
Amphitheatre, on Monday evening, August 23rd inst., 1841,
I take this means of informing you that it is a Popish Radi-
cal hoax. It shows to what a desperate state of envy and
malice our radical and popish adversaries are driven. The
effects of our association have been deeply felt in thinning
their ranks, and in bringing many of our fellow townsmen
out of popish darkness into protestant light; therefore we
do not wonder at the malice which dictated the placard in
question, and led to the forgery of the names of the patron
and secretary of our association.

It will be observed that the printer's name has been
omitted on the bill : this is a proof that the forgers of it
were fearful of discovery in their contemptible trick.
JOHN LEATHERBARROW,
Secretary.

26, Elliott-street.

CHAIN CABLES

TO THE COMMITTEE FOR MANAGING THE REGISTRATIX,
OF SHIPPING, LIVERPOOL.

GENTLEMEN,—The recent 'reconstruction of this Com-
mittee for the purpose of regulating all matters connected
with the classification, &c. of shipping, induces me to address
you on a much neglected, misunderstood, but very important,
branch of the equipments, viz. chain cables ; for, it is gene-
rally allowed to be one requiring information, in order to be
better understood.

Lloyd's Registration Committee entertain a most erroneous
notion, and promulgate it as truth, misleading themselves
and the public, that in the process for strengthening chain
cables, by exceeding the weights in practice greatly, renders
chains so proved dangerous ; and, under this delusion, frame
rules to regulate the shipping of this and other countries,
embracing, as these rules do, the security of life as well as
property. The plain and correct statements before the pub-
lic, together with what is here stated, cannot fail to attract
your notice, and obtain for it your best consideration, as a
duty (apart from personal motives) incumbent on a Com-
mittee constituted to frame rules for the government of a
society. Chain cables ham a place in these rules; and it is
to this 1 am calling your attention, that they may not alto-
gether be based on that absurd principle, problematical
strength !

To-individuals better acquainted, the appropriating of
chains, according to substance, is a grievance ; but if strength
be made a rule of appropriation, this same rule would attract
these individuals to the spot where it is in practice, and so
add to the business already done, whilst the present insane
rule continues on the books to suit these persons who prefer
doing business under it, or cannot produce certificates of
strength.

In confirmation of what I have set forth here and else-
wherei I shall relate a circumstance which occurred about the
opening of the proving establishment in Liverpool, and state
the bearings in a way which appear to me to be correct. Two
chain cables, of the diameter of one and a quarter inch, were
sent to the establishment to be proved. The chain first
proved had forced out of it every link short of 40 tons strength,
and was certified at 40 tons. The other chain had been in
use about two years, and soon as 15 tons had crept upon it,
in the operation a link gave way in the presence of the hor-
rified shipmaster.
According to the regulations laid down by committees,
this vile chain is permitted, without the least scruple, to be
appropriated to a vessel of 280 tons; but the strong chain
would be rejected for the next class, as being too small, not-
withstanding it is as well qualified to hold a ship of 1200 tons
as the weak chain is one of 280 tons, provided the party
which drew out the scale contemplated a surplus of strength
or substance equal to one-third for natural wear. An allow-
ance like this ought to be made in new chains, otherwise they
would speedily become insufficient, and require to be re-
placed. On another occasion, a chainmaker, who made
chains by his own hands, told me, in confidence, that he had
made a chain the worst he ever knew to be made. The owner
or master took it into his head to think differently of the
chain, praised it, and, through this unmerited praise, other
persons employed the chainmaker.
In this deplorable state, as ridiculous as it is hazardous, is
the British and foreign shipping subject to be placed; and,
what is remarkable and lamentable, constituted bodies, with
strong evidence before them, have no inclination to grapple with
the subject, but keep aloof for reasons best known to them-
selves, just as if a continuance in this state is the grand ob-
ject of the society. The interest of parties does not harmo-
nise on the present plan. Surveyors, according to instruc-
tions, require chain cables to be of a certain size, disregard-
ing strength. The shipowner, knowing the underwriter
stands in his place, is often as regardless of strength, and
provides chains, of the prescribed size, as cheap as he can ;
so that, between these parties, the property of merchants and
the lives of crews are placed in jeopardy.
It is an easy matter to frame rules to make the interests of
all harmonise to their advantage, and to this end I am calling
your attention. There are experimental chains prepared suf-
ficient to show the state of affairs, and the necessity there is
for a wiser code of rules, to regulate the shipping community
on this head ; so that it only remains for:you to take advan-
tage of the circumstance. I am, gentlemen, your most obe-
dient servant, RO BT. PORTER.
Liverpool, 14th August, 1841.

The Earl of Harewood is dangerously ill at his house in
London.

The annual regatta of the Royal Yacht Squadron was to
commence at Cowes, Isle of Wight, yesterday, (Monday.)
Admiral Sir Robert Stopford assumes the governorship of
Greenwich Hospital in the course of the ensuing week.

It is most probable that Lord Lyndhurst will resume the
seals. His lordship, we understand, declines to go as am-
bassador to Paris.

Lord Morpeth has accepted an invitation to dine with the
Dublin radicals on the 9th September.
The army in Ireland is about to be further augmented, by
the addition of three regiments of infantry-
A young girl aged 16, named Maria Payne, committed
suicide at Hounslow on Saturday, by taking oxalic acid, in
consequence of her father having discovered an intimacy
between her and a soldier of the 11th Hussars.

The Russian government, it is stated, is beginning to con-
ciliate the inhabitants of Poland, and it is even added that
hopes are entertained of its being restored to the rank of a
nation, with the Duke of Leuchtenberg as vice roy.
EDITORIAL. FISHING.—We beg to acknowledge the receipt
of a beautiful dish of soles sent us from a friend in Tenhy
this week,—they were most acceptable. He, as well as other
friends, need not fear offending us by sending us anything he
may consider worth accepting.— Carmart he:Journal .
A whig candidate in the north of England, during the
election, bit upon an ingenious method of corruption. He
presented the wives of several with silk flags to hang from
their windows, each piece of silk being sufficiently large to
make a gown !

The Duke of Bordeaux, whilst riding near Vienna on the
18th ult., broke his leg by a fall from his horse which took
fright.

CAST IRON CHURCH.-St. George's Church, Liverpool,
is an object of considerable interest for its taste, and as
having been nearly the first iron church erected in Great
Britain. The whole of the frame work of the windows, doors,
greins, roofs, pulpit, ornamental enrichments, are of cast
iron. The length is 119 feet, the breadth is 47. It is orna-
mented by a splendid cast iron window of stained glass. It
is not, perhaps, generally known, that a great proportion of
the larger manufactories erected in England within the last
ten years, are all iron except the walls. And within two
years past, several cottages and country villas have been put
up near London, which are exclusively cast iron ; walls,
doors, steps, roof, chimneys, sash, &c. In England where
wood is dear and iron cheap, the first cost of such buildings
is less than those of timber. In durability and beauty, they
are, of course, unequalled. When once finished such build-
ings require no repairs; and the most finely carved orna-
ments cost little more than plain castings.—London .31e-
ehanics' Magazine.

A BATCH OF NEW WHIG PEERS.--Friday's Gazette an-
nounces that the following have been raised to the peerage .
—The Right Hon. Henry Charles Howard (commonly called
Earl of Surrey), by the stile and title of Baron Mal Travers.
General John Earl of Stair, by the the title of Baron Oxen-
foord, of Cousland, in the county of Edinburgh. Valentine
Earl of Kenmore, to be Baron Kenmore, of Castle Bosse,
Kerry. The Right Hon. George Hamilton Chichester (com-
monly called Earl of Belfast), by the stile and title of Baroni
Ennishowen and Carrickfergus, of Ennishowcn, D°"sa
and of Carrickfergus, Antrim. Charles Noel Lord Barham,ißnt-
by the stiles and titles of Baron Noel, of Riffling ~
Rut-
laud, Viscount Campden, of Cam den, Glouceisnteer,tL°a
of Gainsborough, Lincoln. William FitzlTrd_.4e. 'no
(11- d EarlSe-
grave, by the stile and title of Earl Fitik
General the Right Hon. Sir Richard Busdsiey,
vivLiaine,uto.i.
Right Hon. Sir Henry
Glynn and of Truro, Cornwall.
Brooke Parnell, Bart., by
gleton, of Congleton, Chester.
SEA-HOASE AT HOBART-
ARRIVAL OF THE STEAMER
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Yesterday much inte-
rest was excited by
can-
vass, standing up the Deny s
seeing
gwn hi th npt rsotie-eadmteor, 'bue under
Scaelai:
the first of the four powerful
power,is, out to navigate our seas, and call
are con g
Horse, from London.Ti splendid vessel, of 300-horse
vast resources of these important colonies,
into existence the
advises from home we learn that the. Juno, of
stea m r s which,
By our last
a was upon the eve of sailing ; and we can only
similar power, we e understand.,in
that if she and the others are equal to the Sea-Horse,
vessels have appeared on our side of the globe. The
Erebusand Terror, southern discovery ships, are in the har-
bour. The have been further to the southward than any
former expedition, sailing over tht oontineut recently dis-
covered by the Americans.

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