The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-03-01 00:00:00

exactly one he should have expected. It was like all the letters
they had ever received from the London Board. It *as drinostje-
suitical letter—it evaded every thing. He would have them
read it iscain. HoW had they secured this £l5OO revenue? As
soon as the great. Western Railway had secured their bill,
through the assistance of the Committee, then they said, we
will have nothing to do with your line; we *ill have a convey-
ance of our own." (Hear.) Was this not another proof that
the directors did not properly exert themselves from not having
such a deep interest in it. they ought to be deeply interested
and. have astake in the undertaking. The directors had been.
aprised berorehand that if they permitted the Western Rail-
way to take the line which it had done, that they *mild sacri-
fice the amount which had been stated, so that they were not
ignoiant of the fact. And what did they plead? They pleaded
that they had better stand neuter: But this connteaanced the
undertaking individually, and their evidence went in favour of
the grand western line. .
Mr. CROOPXIt. IS it true? ".

Mr. HEYMORTH. Was it true! Were they compelled to
give. evidence to their own detriment? As man had a right to
tell the truth when it was not detrimental to him, but when it
was so he was not compelled to speak.
Mr. CROPPER. The director was summoned to give that evi,
deuce by an order of the house.
HEYWORTH. He did think that if he had stated id the
house that he was a director of the London and Birmingham
line that he would not be compelled to have given his evidence.
(Hear.)
Mr. JAMES HEYW9RTH begged to move, as an act of justice
to the gentlemen whd had by their exertions obtained much va-
luable infotmation, " that the thanks of this meeting be given
to the gentlemen constituting the deputation for their services,
and to those gentlemen whom they consulted in London." The
motion was seconded. _ .

—Mr. Rice begged it might be put to the vote. They had
direetera appointed; he dared say those directors would be ready
to attend to their requests as to the nomination of future direc-
torS., Hediad taken a great deal of pains to get more directors
for the cotintry; but they were in for the evil, and they must get
out of it not by convulsion. The directors of the London Rail-
way might not be competent men; but he had heard the name
of,'Mr. Wilson; and he had no hesitation in telling them that
he brought Mr. Wilson by a large majority to be a director 'of
the' Liverpool and Manchester Railway, and he told them all
withbut any' hesitation' that he blushed for his conduct. (Cries
Of " Oh, eili,!")' lie thought- he was the Most inefficient direc-
tor they,had on the line. (Laughter.) If they had. the power,
ivhiCh'theybtitMet,.and the LOndon committee were inefficient,
do let them send sliffiebodywho was efficient.
Mr. -LXwIN-Moit;kt wished it to be understood that be was
an biti'girtfil(laqiiiellef.ift, this undertaking, and was anxious .to
turn his'sbati4S tthe'lkst-account.' 'fhey had been summoned
together to a meeting at the Clarendon-rooms, and a discussion
had taken place.' 'Many attended there, and they were wilting
to accept the trustees imposed on them on certain conditions.
'These c3nditions were defined; every question was asked which
could, be asked to suggest Al hat course the deputation should
adopt - -Eerie had asked a very proper question-7," if their
request was refused, what was the deputation to do?" tti,.an-
swer was, " Oh, we are quite confident that the three non-resi-
dent commis-shiners, Messrs, Garnett, Cropper, and Rathbone,
will take care of that;" and they said, " 'We will pledge our-
selves to th'e returning of one director.",- They then said that
they. Would give up their director in order that Manchester
might be represented; thus showing that °tile one director was
wanted. For some reason- the deputation liad thought proper
to depart from the instructions given to them. But if they did
so, their 'reasons should be stated openly. They should not
have' any hole-and-corner meetings. They ought not to meet
there as they did without Communicating with the directors in
London. The deputation ought to have stated to the proprie-
tors the reason-why they nominated six directors instead of one.
If they had been proved to have given evidence contrary to
their interest, he would have called on the directors to hare
given up their trust. That was the course he would have adopt-
ed. Then what was the result? The three directors who had
been left out were the three roost efficient men on the troardi
He did not wish to prevent discussion; he would have a coin-
inittee appointed to examine into it. 'Bathe directors ought to
do every thing tip prevent branches being made to injure their
undertaking. Do what? Had they a patent right of the rail-
math ? •They found the great western, the great northern, and
the great eastern would have branches out of London; -every
part of the country would be intersected with them; they, there-
fore,-could not blame those gentlemen for it. If they found any
gentlemen doing wrong, let them be dismissed when the proper
time arrived, but do not let them commit an act of injustice.—
(Applause.)
Mr. HEY WORTH said Mr. Mozley had paid compliments to
the deputation; but, while he had done that, he had paid com-
pliments fo himself in stating himself as competent to under-
take that reputation. (Cries of " No, no.")
Mr. MOZLEY.---1 disclaim it.

Mr: Da-vin Honosow thought a little explanation necessary
to explain why he had received any notice of the last meeting.
No one Would Lie more ready to accede to the resolution proposed!'
provided it did not imply a condemnatory opinion .on those who
were opposed to them, and would very much interfere with the
harmony it was to their interest to promote. Having ascertain-
ed that a new director would be appointed in London—having
gained that point, woold'itnot more conduce to harmony to put
An end to the discussion. He thought that the Liverpool board
were competent and able men. Much had been said on the expe-
rience required-. The gentlemen who laid so much stresson that,
what did they know ? What were the extraordinary opportu-
pities given to any set of men in this country as to the direction
of railways? He had sat at the only board which had been in
the kingdom for six years, and he should say that any man with
common abilities might soon know all that was to he known
about them. With regard to what had been stated by Mr.
Boothby, he was ready to receive the information; but he might
say that it was new in fOrmation ; and, if it were new informa-
tion to the London directors, they ought not to be so'severe with
them. The subject of the Great Western Railway had been
fully discussed, and, though Mr. Boothby had explained that it
was a lass to that comtnittees•.and
.that £15.000 was • the only
probable set off—that was merely an assumption, there were
no facts on 'which It could-he sustained. • Instead of £15,000, he
was of opinion that they should oet £50,000 by that part of their
line being used. • He was of opinion that they.shOuld get what
It was worth, and they ought not to' desire to.get more. They
found great -fault with a man for giving in evidence an honest'
opinion. He was called on to give evidence, and he was asked
,Itrestions. 'A great railway undertaking did not stand in the
light of a private. trailer. They had.been ;Wowed by.that very.
parliament to make inroads on private property, and the public:,
4ml a right to know, and to demand to know; all about their
Concerns. They were required to answer questions, and pro-
perly. If they adopted the proposed resolution; they implied •
an -indirect censure on the three non-resident directors who had
differed from that deputation at the London board. After hay-
ing ascertained what. had been accomplished, they might, simply
Prepose,an adjournment. A vote of thanks had already been
passed on the deputation.
Mr. Jaros • HEywoera seas not aware that any vote of
thanks had been given the deputation at the last meeting, but
if it had not taken place he would not have moved a vote of
thanks that could be conceived as condemnatory of the direr-
tors. He Was as anxious as Mr. Hodgsonfor the promotion of
a good understanding, but be wished it to be founded 'on those
sound and honest principles ishich were calculated to-produce
the largest amount of benefit to the proprietors. And he would
pot even wish to see an unsound harmony preserved for the
sake of bolstering up the price of shares; but if there were
any thing rotten he would have it exposed to view, in order that
a salutary check might he immediately applied to it. • He spoke
this in the desire that harmony might prevail. He would there-
fore withdraw his motion.
Mr. Rosiont would second Mr. Hodgson's motion fir an ad-
journment.
Mr, BooTuriv said that
.any statement which he had made
there he was ready to submit to any five proprietors who might
be appointed. He made no charge, but he would undertake
to prove the London Board were inefficient.
The CHAU:MAN.—Was it their wish that they should separ-
ate without expressing any opinion.
Mr. Rosktni. understood that meeting was called simply to
hear the answer of the deputation, and they had heard it read.
Mr. BRYANS wished to know why public n dice of the previ-
ous meeting had not been given. It was a private meetine. for
'a public purpose.
Mr. Rosxm.- and Mr. BRYANS objected to any thing which
had been done being confirmed as it was an illegal meeting,
Mr. HODGSON hoped it would not occur again.
Mr. HEY WORTH said that all he knew about the meeting of
Monday last was this, he wished after his return from London
on the Sunday night, to communicate the result of his mission
to a few friends, in order to prepare a statement to lay before a !
public meeting. Oncoming to the town on Monday morning,
he found that a meeting was assembled to receive his report,
and though unprepared, he did not think it right to withhold his
information.

Mr. Alderman STUART said the previous meeting had been
called only to substitute some other individual in the place of
Mr. Brown, who was unable to go with the deputation. The
secretary was only apprised in the morning, and gut out as
many votes as he had time to get out.
Mr. Crtoeege said said, with reference to what had been
stated about Mr. Glynn, he had merely said, " do you not think
Mr. Glynn is so clever a man that he would be more injurious
out of the meeting than in it." He.should like to know, as one
of the directors, whether the proprietors were satisfied with the
course the non-resident directors had thought proper to pursue.
They had been placed in a very unpleasant situation, to stand
up and oppose a deputation sent from Liverpool. He thought
it but right that they should know whether their conduct had
been satisfactory to the proprietors.
The CHAIRMAN though it perfectly clear that they had.
Mr, IlonGsoN begged leave to move that the directors did act
a perfectly consistent part. He would withdraw his previous
motion
Mr: BOOTHRY would move as an amendment, " that this
meeting regrets that a difference of opinion has existed, and is
of opinion that a vote of thanks should he given to the deputa-
tion and to the directors also, for the zeal they had displayed."
The amendment was seconded and carried.
It was then moved by Mr. Itosamr, and seconded by Mr.
SANDS, that the proceedings of i!le meeting held-on Monday
last be confirmed, and that the communication received from
the Chairman of the board on the'subject is satisfactory." •
The meeting then separated about three o'clock, having sat
three hours.

STOCKPORT OPERATIVE CONSERVATIVE.
ASSOCLATION.

(Prom the Stockport Advertiser.)

We hate the pleasure to state that this excellent institution
keeps steadily advancing. On all sides we hear of nothing but
approbation of its objects, and assurances that it shall he sup-
ported; nor do its friends confine themselves to verbal pro-
mites merely, Wehard Orford, Esq.. of fligh-lane, who, asour
readers Will recollect, promised to give the conservative opera-
tives the Standard newspaper, at the late dinner given to Mr.
Winterbottom, has most. nobly redeemed his promise. Not
content with merely offering theM hisown Standard paper when
he had read it, he has ordered one direct front London fur their
use. So great has been the liberality of the conservatives of
Stockport, that the room is now pretty well supplied with news-
papers; and if a few more gentlemen would only come for-
ward and pledge themselves to support the expense, the room
might be kept open from eight in the morning until ten o'clock
at night, (every day, except Sunday) instead of front six in the
evening until ten o'clock, which is all that the funds of the
society enabled the committee to venture upon.
When it is considered that in consequence of accidents with
machinery and other apparatus'about a factory, the operatives
are frequently unemployed fur days together, we are sure that
both their masters, and the Conservatives in general, will see
the propriety of allowing the totnns'to be kept open all daY• A
very moderate addition to the fundf; Would enable the committee
to effect this desirable object. But the purpose of the sopport
•of this institution is not merely to enable the operatives to read
the newSpapers. A library of cheap' editions of good, !?ti.ndd,
stetling English literature would algo he a great acvnsitton.
'Three individuals, in order to make a beginning, have already
presented 6f./ volumes ; hut; if gentlemen who have real!}the
good of their country at heart. would only look over their libra-
ries, we think they would find duplicates. and plant editions of
tiiany works which they might Mi.+ dto part with. •
It is an old saving that," beggars must not be Choosers';"
but we cannot help just hinting at the chiSsiof works that would
be desirable,' ;It is:hardly ..tiereeso.rytp',.ay that they should cOn-
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