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for raising money ?

Mr. WATSON replied, that could be done only by raising
subscriptions.
Mr. TYRER said the first resolution bad been placed in his
hands. From the great interest he bad always felt in the esta-
blishment of such an institution as a Sailor's Home, he had
pleasure in moving the resolution. He had seen a great deal of
the vice and fraud with which the poor sailor had to contend,
and he believed that this proposed institution would be tha
means of removing at least a part of it. He was not sanguine
enough to imagine that it would remove even that in a short
time, but nevertheless it would immediately effect much
good. When we considered how unacquainted with the
world the poor sailor was, it was their duty to give him the
benefit of all the experience which they had had. (Hear.)
The poor sailor was taken advantage of by every one in one
shape or other. Mr. Tyrer concluded by moving the first
resolution, which was to the effect " That a Sailor's Home be
erected, which should have for its object the providing of
sailors with a comfortable and well-regulated home, where
they might be lodged and provided for at a reasonable charge ;
medical advice furnished ; encouragement given to deposit
their wages at interest, and opportunities afforded of avoid-
ing vice and extortion, of which they were now too often the
victims, and the means afforded of improving their moral
condition by providing religious instruction, according to the
Church of England."

Mr. C. S. PARKER seconded the resolution, and on being

put it was carried.
Mr. DUTTON said that after the able remarks of Mr.
Tyrer, there was little left for him to say in moving the
second resolution. They were all agreed upon the necessity
for such an institution as a " Sailor's home." It was one
which could not fail to be very valuable to such an useful body
of men as the mariners of this nation. Let Liverpool not
be backward in giving a good example in this respect to
other ports : let Liverpool show, not only in theory, as she
was about to do by a code of laws and regulations, but by
the activity and exertion she could bring into exercise what
she could do ; and let Liverpool sailors be a pattern to all
others for good conduct in their profession, and for all
matters relating to their social welfare. (Applause.) Mr.
Dutton then moved the resolution, which provided for the
government of the institution being in a president, vice-
president, and chaplain [of the Church of England] &c.
Mr. ROWETT said he should not like to hold up his hand
for the building of an institution, until he knew from where
the funds for that purpose were to be obtained? Many

gentlemen in the room were of the same opinion. His own
motion was that the " Home" should be a self-supporting
one, seeing that the one in London had not answered so

Mr. MAYNARD observed that one of the rules would pro-
vide for a charge being made upon each.
Mr. ROWETT observed that they were now actually voting
for building an institution without having first provided the
means.

Mr. TYRER did not think that funds would be wanting.
Mr. ROWETT, in continuation, said the Sailor's Home in
London had worked very badly. It commenced gratuitously,
and its operations had shown that without some other prin-
ciple decay would be the result. It was established in the
year 1827 ; and be held in his hand the report for 1838.

The CHAIRMAN apprehended that there was some irregu-
larity in proceeding with this discussion, as the resalution
had not been seconded.

Mr. ROWETT, in consideration, said that in the report of
the London Sailor's Home for 1838, great cries were made
for more means to work it. They had no means of working
it but by voluntary subscriptions, and it had been found that
when we came before the public so often for any object they
were tired.

Mr. TYRER.—So they might say of any other institution.
Mr. ItowETT admitted that, if the institution was worked
on the same plan. He thought the Sailor's Home should be
a self-supporting institution. It was certainly a very easy
matter to talk about erecting a building for the purpose, but
the question where the money was to come from, was some-
what more difficult to solve.

Mr. TOMLINSON wished to put Mr. Rowett right with re-
gard to the working of the London institution, and he would
read from the report of the committee for 1840. During the
first year of its existence only 500 sailors passed through the
institution, hut during last year (1840) there had been no
less than 2183 ; and a great advance in steady and decorous
principles had been made amongst the sailors. He men-
tioned this fact to stew that the remarks of Mr. Rowett did
not apply. The amount raised by subscription was £3lOO.
Mr. ROWETT said he had read from the report of 1838,
the only one in his possession. A large building had been
erected at great cost, with comparatively little use, and the
funds for which might have been applied to do the sailor
good in other ways. He should say, congregate the sailors
first, and then let a building be erected. _

Mr. AIKEN thought they getting on a little too fast.
He did not see how they could with propriety speak of having
a building until they saw whether they could obtain the re-
quisite funds. The meeting last week was adjourned upon
his motion, for the purpose of inducing a larger attendance,
and from that larger attendance to form a committee for the
purpose of getting up a public meeting under the auspices
of the Mayor, to raise funds to as great an extent as possible.
When that public meeting had been held, and a committee
formed, that committee should act according to the extent
of the means they might be able to raise. He was at a loss
to know, having taken a considerable share in the attempts to
get up a' Sailors' Home for several years, why he had been
overlooked and dropped on the presept occasion ? He was in-
clined to attribute it to the fact, that he had ventured to suggest
a more practical manner of forming a moral and religious es-
tablishment for the benefit of the sailor. He presutnedithat the
cause why he was not consulted had arisen from the fact that
in the last public meeting he suggested that they should
guard against those dangers which had caused the breaking
up of previous attempts. His suggestion was this, that they
must, in the first instance, shew a great temporal benefit to
the sailor himself, and then found, upon that that moral and
religious instruction which he had before stated and now re-
peated, he was as anxious to give to the sailor as any indi.
vidual present. But he wished to take the most practical
means for bringing about that end; he wished to shew the
sailor that by having an establishment where his wages might
be paid, where he might have a bank in which to deposit his
earnings, and from which he might draw £1 or £2 to suit
his conveniencefor meethis wants, he would have more time on
shore, and:to which, at the end of another voyage, he might add
£5 or £lO more. From that moment his character would
change, and he would become more attentive to moral con-
duct and religion. He (Mr. Aikin) believed that according
to the working of the present mode, neither the shipowner
nor the captain knew what sort of crew they had on board,
whether they were sailors or lubbers, till they got off Holy-
head. But think if the character of the sailor were improved,
the shipowner would be glad to pay him £3 per month, and
the lubber 305., instead of paying both £2, as at present. If
a sailor was a good hand and character, he would at once
get from him (Mr. Aikin) and otbker shipowners £3 per
month; and when one sailor was found so well paid, the
example of improvement would speedily be followed. But
if the

proposed to make this an almost exclusively religious

establishment, he feared it might be very unjustly be called
by the sailor " A Psalm singing Shop," and avoided on that
account. On the other band, he Naas satisfied that if they
began by extending to the sailor the great temporal advan-

taies which such an institution was capable of affording, they
would thereby lead him into moral habits, and established in

him by an institution generally of a moral character. Mr.
Aikin, in conclusion, repeated the proposition with which he
set out.
Mr. ROWETT said there was an institution in this town

called the Shipmasters' Association, the object of which was
the benefit of sailors, more particularly those of a lower cha-
racter. To begin with the lowest class of sailors, would, in
his opinion, be beginning at the wrong end ; therefore the
shipmasters were adopted as a means to get at the sailors.
Having got the shipmasters into a body, it was easy to bring
the sailors into a body. With £5OO. or £lOOO. therefore, he
believed such an institution might be carried on to a larger
extent than that in London, without erecting a building. _

Mr. COTESWORTH said it was not from-ill will that Mr.

Aikin had not been consulted : there had been no time for
it since the last meeting, as he had been out of town. The
resolution now proposed would give all that Mr. Aikin
wanted, inasmuch as it provided for all that was desirable by
the sailor, and moreover for giving him religious instruction.
He (Mr. Cotesworth) could not conceive how they were to
start upon the principle of making morality the basis of reli-
gion. That would not do : they must begin with religion.
The question of getting temporary provision for seamen in
the town, had been tried, and without effect. Let them
have an institution something similar to that in London, and
he had the fullest confidence that it would soon be found ne-
cessary to enlarge the building, if not to erect a new orte.
Mr. AIKIN repeated, that the meeting last week had been
adjourned for the purpose of the committee getting up a
public meeting, and to take other measures to secure the
establishment of a Sailors' Home. He was therefore rather
surprised to see that purpose departed from, and resolutions
brought forward, pledging them to do something before they
had a penny to begin with. Mr. Aikin then explained that
he had never hinted at religion being based on morality ;
and moved as an amendment, that the meeting do that for
they were convened, and for which they bad been adjourned,
namely, to choose a committee to get up a public meeting,
and to take measures for raising funds.
Mr. TYRER thought that object could be accomplished
without another meeting.
Mr. COTESWORTR said, it was desirable this meeting
should avow the principle on which they had acted : with-
out it, the proposed committee could do nothing.
Mr. TYRER remarked, ,that unless gentlemen knew the
principle of the institution, they would not subscribe.
Mr: HENDERSON observed, that the end proposed by both
parties appeared to be the same, and he saw no great differ-
ence in the means. As Mr. Aikin had suggested the ap-
pointment of a committee, he could see no difficulty in at-
taching to it the objects of the proposed institution.
Mr. COTESWORTK said, that one reason for coming for-
ward in the present manner was, the loss of time which had
occurred. Already three years had expired in the conside-
ration of the project, and no one seemed willing to make up
his mind. The first resolution embraced all that Mr. Aikin
required, inasmuch as it provided for the appointment of a
committee of management, and it was for those present to
say whether they approved of it. If the institution were to
be administered without regard to the religious instruction
of the seamen. he for one would have nothing to do with it,
and many gentlemen would separate from it upon the same
ground.
Mr. HENDERSON mentioned that Mr. Aikin's objection
was to embarking in the affair without Itiuming where the
funds wore to come from,

Mr. Anat repeated his proposition.
Mr. HENDERSON was free to admit that those gentlemen
who subscribed the funds should elect the committee.
The Rev. G. MAYNARD at some length sheaved that the
principle of the proposed institution, as far as concerned re-
ligious instruction, would be strictly Church of England.
Mr. Piing's said that, as they must often all depend upon
the public for support, the ought to begin as Mr. Aikin had
suggested. _

Mr. WATSON said there was no question raised but that
the religious instruction to be given should be according to
the Church of England ; but he held that the people who
would have to find the money should appoint the committee.
Mr. H ENDERSON saw no objection to the chaplain's being
of the established church.
Mr. WATSON said the assurance of that from Mr. Aiken

would satisfy everybody, that there was no intention to at
tempt to establish the institution without religious principle
Mr. AIKIN had never hinted at or dreamed of anything
sectarian ; and he thought that if seats were prc
the sailor in the floating church, he ought to go there.
he wanted was to go practically about the matter.
After some observations from Mr. ROWETT, Mr. WA
SON, Mr. HARBORD, and Mr. BOOKER, the word " erected
in the first resolution was altered into " established."
Mr. AIKIN then moved his resolution, which was as
follows :

rued for

" That a committee be appointed to prepare resolutions
for a public meeting, and to take other measures to secure
the establishment of a Sailor's Home in Liverpool."
Mr. BOOKER seconded the resolution.
The CHAIRMAN on putting it, declared it to have been
carried unanimously.

The other resolutions were consequently withdrawn.
Mr. HENDERSON.—I presume it is understood in that re-
solution, that toe institution should be upon the principle of
the Established Church ?

Mr. AlKllc.—Certainly, it is so understood.—Mr. Aikin
then moved the following list of gentlemen as the com-
mittee :

Sir J. S. P. Salusbury, Messrs. Josiah Booker, James
Aikin, Richard Harbord, Charles Cotesworth, C. S. Parker,
William Potter, J. N. Wood, Wm. Watson, James Tyrer,
H. C. Chapman, C. L. Phipps, and Wm. John Tomlinson.
The meeting then separated.

This town was inundated last week by a horde of wild men
from the mountains, all sent a journey of fifty miles by their
careful Pastor to " get ticketslfrom the Doctor" for hearing
the Bible read ! The poor people had resolutely refused to
give up listening to the Word of God until their infallible
guide succeeded in convincing them that " the Bible was
composed by Luther !! !"—Kerry Post.
The miners engaged in sinking a shaft on the land of T. J.
Trafford, Esq. near Patricroft, have at length, after a labour
of nearly three years, found a vein of coal at the extraordi-
nary depth-of 1,350 feet from the surface of the earth.

INSOLVENT DEBTORS.—H. R. Reynolds, Esq., Chief
Commissioner, will hold a court for the relief of insolvent
debtors at Lancaster, on Thursday, July 15 ; at Preston,
Saturday, July 24th ; at Liverpool, Monday, July 26.

We are authorised to contradict a statement that has ap-
peared in this and several other papers, that Lord Cardigan
had assigned over his property, and paid heavy charges
respecting it, such statement being wholly devoid of truth,
and without foundation.—Morning9 Post.
The re-appointment of the select committee of last year
has caused some stir among the banking interest. Delegates
from the various banks, consequently, are expected in town,
and head-quarters have been engaged, where deliberations
may take place, and unity of action be secured.—Times.
LIFE INSURANCES, Sc.—Mr. Godson has just placed on
the notice books of the House of Commons, intimation of
his intention to promote a very useful inquiry, namely, to
propose the appointment of a select committee to investi-
gate " the present state of the companies for effecting as-
surances on lives and for granting annuities ;"—a measure
imperatively called for, by the gross frauds and heartless in-
fliction to which certain companies have recently made so
many victims.

THE CONSERVATIVE PRESS.—The malignity with which
the Conservative press is pursued by the " Liberals" cannot
be better exemplified than in the recent attempt to crush
ourselves and the Shropshire Conservative. In four years
no fewer than seven criminal informations have been intended
for us by one party, whilst in the case of our above-namcd
Tory contemporary. ANOTHER application would have been
made to the court on Friday se'nnight, had not the first been
refused, the party applying for it, having publicly dcelared
that he had FIVE others which he should also endeavour to
obtain rules for. If this does not prove the extent to which
the " Liberals" (!) would go, in their love for their political
opponents, nothing will.—Stockport Advertiser.
CENSUS OF 1841.—The comissioners for taking the census
are actively engaged in their preparatory arrangements for
this important inquiry. It will be taken throughout the Uni-
ted Kingdom in one day, viz., on the first July. The plan is,
to divide the poor-law unions of England into enumeration
districts, which are required to be clearly defined ; to coin-
cide with boundaries already known, and in no instance to
exceed 200 houses. In thinly populated parts less than 90
houses will form a district : so that an active man may visit
every house, between sunrise and sunset on a summer's day.
For each of these districts an enumerator will be appointed,
who will act under the direction of a district registrar of
births and deaths ; the whole to be superintended by the
superintendent registrar of the union. It appears by the
act, that none of the registrars can act as enumerators, other
duties being assigned to them. From these arrangements,
it is evident that the census is intended to be taken with much
greater care and accuracy than heretofore, and to become the
foundation of this portion of the statistics of Great Britain.

ROYAL TREASURES.—Queen Victoria commanded that
the celebrated tiger's head (taken from Tippoo Saib by the
Earl Cornwallis), with a solid ingot of gold for his tongue,
and crystal teeth, should be sent from Windsor Castl to
Buckingham Palace, to be placed on the sideboard in the
dining-room, amongst the other rich and splendid ornaments
with which the room was decorated at the christening. There
is a curious tale connected with this valuable trophy :—lt
was, for several years, placed in the museum of the East
India Company in Leadenhall-street; butithaving, by some