The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1847-09-21 00:00:00

that, whilst we

se no time in candidly confe

rtg • our

convictions, and openly recording our decision"—
better that this candid confession and open record-
ing should be made before we thus crawled to Rome

on our hands and knees,insteadof afterwards—there
is not much "ground for apprehension that the
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spirit by a reci,

)01tteration

appily
we are prepared with a reply to this confident pre-
diction of the waiving of popish insolence and into-
lerance by the Court of Rome, in a letter to the
Times of the same day, addressed in reply to the
arguments of a correspondent—lgnotus—by a gen-
tleman who dates from Lincoln's-inn. Ignotus had
urged, in opposition to the course proposed—first,
that up to this hour the title of her gracious'Ma-
jesty is unacknowledged by the Prince-prelate of
Rome ; secondly, that the sentences of excommuni-
cation levelled against the Queen of England and
her adherents are unrevoked by him ; and thirdly,
that, up to this hour, the bull in ccena domini, put
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pr dzsobe-

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dience to the Roman pontiff; our Quen, clergy,
nobles, and such portions of the people as are not
Roman Catholics, and which sentence of anathema

is to 7,

Je renewed afresh ever%

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To the first two of these positions the reply
offered is of the most flimsy and equivocal descrip-
tion. The: Queen is said to have been virtually re-
cognised by the fact that the Pope of that day
wrote a letter to George the Fourth, through Mr .Can-
ning , announcing his elevation to the throne ! With
respect to the second matter—the excommunication
of Queen Elizabeth—it is urged that Queen Victoria
does not derive her title from Elizabeth ; and that
^h excommunication "was grounded on I-

aer
(Elizabeth's) alleged illegitimacy, by reason of the
invalidity of the divorce of Queen Catherine, and
consequently of the marriage of Anne Boleyn."
The most material fact, however, urged by Ignotus,
is the non-withdrawal of the anathema from our
Queen and the Protestant people, for disobedience
to the Roman Pontiff—an anathema as valid now
as when first issued, levelled as much at Queen
Victoria and her subjects as at Queen Elizabeth,
because provision was expressly made for its inde-
finite renewal. What does the Jesuit correspondent
of the Times say to this ? Why, first, he pleads
that the anathema in question is only a "spiritual
denunciation of spiritual penalties," (including for-
feiture of allegiance, &c.,) against what the Church
of Rome holds to be a spiritual offence, i. e. sepa-
tion from its communion ;" and he asks "how can
this Bull affect diplomatic, political, and purely
temporal intercourse with the Court or Govern-
ment of Rome ?" The cancelling of this offensive
Bull, or an acknowledgment that withdrawal from
obedience to the Roman Pontiff is sanctioned by
the third General Council, he says "seems to him
somewhat unreasonable !" So much for the pro-
. 4.,,,,nrria us. in return

for our acknowledging her, by accrediting an am-
bassador to her court. So much for the decency
and sense of self-respect involved in fondling the
temporal arm of a power, whose spiritual head
thinks it unreasonable not to be permitted once a
year publicly to consign to perdition our Sovereign
and ourselves I

But, it is asked,—" What actual evil or danger
can result from the course proposed ?" And we are
reminded of the fact, that although ostensibly our
government is not represented at the Court of
Rome, we still communicate with that court through
some intermediate and indirect channel. The re-
ply is easy. We anticipate real tangible evil to
arise from the encouragement which would be given
by such a step, to the erroneous doctrines professed
by the church, of "the vast number of British sub-
jects," of whom the Times speaks, as acknowledg-
ing the Pope of Rome as their spiritual head,"
and submitting to the exercise over them of " a
certain controlling power." Will the Romish party
in England, or in Ireland, be less disposed to seek
the extermination of Protestantism in the empire,
in consideration of the concession which we are
urged to make to that spiritual head ? Certainly.
not. We presume, too, that any diplomatic rela-
tions which we may establish with Rome must be
mutual ; that if we have an ambassador at her
court, we must be prepared to receive a legate at
our own ; and we are yet to be informed of any
such ecclesiastic being near to the throne of a pro=
testant sovereign without disturbance, distracted
councils, intrigues in high quarters, and jealousy
and discontent amongst the people being the re-
sult. We fear, too, the presence amongst us of
such an ecclesiastic, in an official capacity, as afford-
ing a pretext for further steps in the same direc-
tion ; and as providing the machinery, by which
the present "controlling power" of the Pope in
this - realm may be extended and rendered more
stringent.

It -would be well that British protestants should
arouse themselves to resist this gross outrage upon
their feelings—this forerunner of further "heavy
blows and great discouragement" to the established
religion and constitution of the realm. The plea
upon which it is urged as desirable that we should
have an ambassador at Rome, is most preposterously
absurd and weak. What have we to do with the
petty intrigues of the petty dukedoms and states of
Italy ? Nothing. We may indeed stand by, in an
armed attitude, if necessary, to repress any attempt
by Austria to violate the settlement of Europe by
the extension of her influence in Italy. We may
carry our protest against such an attempt to the
gates of Vienna itself. But for us to profess any
care about what is ludicrously styled "the cause of
liberty" in the Italian Peninsula, at the risk of
bringing about a disturbance of the peace of Europe,
would be to render ourselves the laughter of all
Europe. Liberty in the very hot-bed of Popery !
Liberty with Italians, who only breathe and walk
about at the will and caprice of the legion of priests
and monks who swarm over and blacken the land,
is likely to be as delusive a dream as ever the
world was befooled withal !

The proceedings of the Birkenhead Commis-
sioners, which will be found reported in another
column, ought to afford to the inhabitants of that
town further conviction, were it required, of the
hopelessness of any attempt to proceed to the com-
pletion of their dockworks, either with the resources
at their own command, or by means of the arrange-
ment proposed to them by the Birkenhead and
Lancashire Railway Company. The consideration
of the proposition in question, for which the spe-
cial meeting of Thursday was called, is, it will be
seen, adjourned for a fortnight ; and there seems
little prospect that it will he adopted by the bond-
holders, for whose benefit (?) it is ostensibly urged ;
or, if so adopted, that it can possibly be sanctioned
by the Legislature,
Under these circumstances it becomes seriously
the duty of the COmmissioners to make the best of
the unfortunate position in which they are placed ;
and, laying aside any feelings of mortified pride
caused by the failure of their original plans, to en-
tertain the. proposition contained in the following

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remarks and resolution of Mr. Bryans. That gen-
tleman, at the meeting on Thursday, stated that

" He rose to move a motion similar to that at the
last meeting, which had been withdrawn, relative to
the disposition of the board to treat with any responsible
party who might be willing and competent to undertake
the fulfilment of their engagements, and to secure them a
fair remuneration for what they had already expended on
the works. He was glad to find that most of the news-
paper press of Liverpool took the same view of the matter
which he did—viz., that they should transfer their powers
to such a body as the Liverpool Corporation or the Dock
Trust, who, if they undertook to carry out the designs of
the company, would be fully able to proceed with them.
This was the view taken by the Courier, the Standard,
and the Times, and he thought that it was quite correct.
He proposed a motion to the effect stated.",

With respect to the part which we have ourselves
taken, as referred to by Mr. Bryans, in recommend-
ing the sale of the works to the Dock Trustees of
Liverpool, we can assure the Commissioners and
our Cheshire neighbours that it has been prompted
only by. a sincere conviction that such a course is

the-best for the interest of the people on both sides
of the river. The Dock Trustees of Liverpool pos-
sess the means required to give an immediate sti-
mulus to the prosperity of Birkenhead—to save
that locality, in fact, from a decline as rapid as it

rise has been, and the owners of the vast mass of
capital invested in what now appears to have been
prompted by a too hasty estimate of their posi-
tion, from embarrassment and ruin. That body,

moreover, as we have before stated, possess advan-
tages for the satisfactory working of the docks in
the pool which can belong to no other body. As
ancillary to the Dock Estate of Liverpool
--
lie I tion of the port of Liverpool—the docks of

as a por-
'Birken-

head might be made to subserve largely the inte-
rests and the progress of the corn tnerce of the
Mersey, to aid the developement of the various
railways converging into the locality, and likely
still further to be extended; whilst the value of the
mass of household property at present half tenanted
and ruinously depreciated in value, could not fail to
be increased by a measure which would in effect
unite Birkenhead and Liverpool as one community,
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.
Such, we are convinced, is the opinion of nine-
tenths of the inhabitants of Birkenhead, who are
not directly interested in land or other specula-
tions, the basis of which has been the full carrying

out of the dock schemes, as originally projected
and planned. It seems to be feared by these par-
ties, that the Dock Committee of Liverpool would
convert the pool into a lumber dock merely; a
place for ship building yards, coal and slate wharfs,
&c., to be used by coasters bringing into our river,
an for outward-bound vessels taking on board,
ballasting and rough freight, 'such vessels passing
over to the Liverpool docks to complete their
cargoes. The warehouse company doubtless fear
the operation of such a conversion. We dare say
that the Dock Committee will be disposed to use
the inner part of the pool for the above purposes
for which it is calculated to be most valuable to
Liverpool. But how will the inhabitants of Bir-
kenhead and the owners of property there, the
warehousing company perhaps excepted, be in-
jured ? Not at all. On the contrary, a measure
which will concentrate in the pool a portion of the
timber and iron and the bulk of the ship-building
trades ; which will bring, in fact, to that side of the
river, by rail and in coasting vessels, the bulk of
the heavy trade of the port and the population
employed by it, must be most beneficial, not only
temporarily but permanently, by raising the value
of land in the neighbourhood to the scale of the
outskirt land on the Liverpool side, if not giving
it the value of some of the most expensive and
densely-built upon plots in the immediate vicinity
of our own docks.

It will be perceived that an amendment to Mr.
Bryans' proposition was moved. by the chairman,
Mr. Mallaby, to the effect that no overtures should
be made by the Commissioners of Birkenhead to
the Dock Trustees, or any other body, and that the
resolution, on their part, of any proposal of sale
was regarded by a majority of the commissioners as
something approaching, in appearance, to " hawk-
ing" their property. At the same time, it was not
concealed that they would readily treat with the
Dock Trustees upon fair terms. The question,
therefore, now resolves itself into one of punctilio.
We beg to submit that the Dock Trustees of Li-
verpool can best of the two afford to waive such
trifling where the interests of the commerce of the
port, which are those of the inhabitants on both
sides of the river, are so largely involved. There
need be no concealment of the fact, now, that the
Cheshire people have failed in the effort to convert
their property to the uses for which it is so admi-
rably adapted by nature. Neither ought there to
be any disposition on the part of any class of the
people of Liverpool to twit them with such failure.
A little concession on both sides would very soon
enable us to understand each other, and to pull
together amicably in a united effort to promote the
commerce of both sides of the river, and the in-
terests of two communities which ought never to
have been divided.

KNOWSLEY.—The festivities at Knowsley, which com-
mence to-day. will be on a most splendid scale. The
grand ball-room is magnificently fitted up. One of the
greatest attractions will be the cricket match to-day, be-
tween the Knowsley Club, assisted by the gentlemen and
relatives of the noble earl now assembled at the hall, and
the gentlemen of the Edge-hill Cricket Club. _

NOT A VERY HEINOUS IMPUTATION UPON THE LIVER-
POOL DOCK COMMITTEE.—At the close of the discussion
at the Birkenhead Commissioners' meeting, on Thursday,
one of the commissioners (Mr. Thomson) expressed his
opinion that the Dock Committee of Liverpool " wished
to get the Birkenhead Docks at the lowest price." The
opinion is a very sensible one. We are all free traders
now-a-days, and hence the Liverpool Dock Committee
wish to " buy in the cheapest market," and the Birken-
head people to " sell in the dearest." When Mr. Thom-
son added " that is my view," he certainly did not intend
to cast an imputation upon his brother commissioners of
being behind the age.

EiAMINATION OF MASTERS AND MATES.-At a meet-
ing of the board of examiners, held on Tuesday, the 14th
instant, Captain Joseph Cornforth, late master of the
Rothschild, of Liverpool, and at present of the ship Ganges,
was examined and found duly qualified for a first-class
extra master's certificate, from his great experience in
maritime affairs. proficiency in nautical astronomy, and
great circle sailing, &c., as to entitle him to it. Mr.
Walter John Colin Lang, first officer of the British and
North American royal mail steam packet Hibernia, was
examined, and from his knowledge in nautical astronomy
and great circle sailing, was found duly qualified for a
first-class extra master's certificate.

ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST'S CHURCH, TOXTETH-PARK.
—This church, after the suspension of Divine service in it
for many weeks, was re-opened on Sunday last ; and much
gratified were we to hear of, and see the great things that
have been done in it during the period that it has been
closed. Its pews on the ground-floor had been attacked
by dry-rot, or something like it, and had become in a very
tottering and crumbling condition. Everything, however,
is right with them now, and likely to continue so, if the
plan adopted for their permanency only turns out as well
as it promises. All communication with them from the
quarter whence the evil proceeded—the red stone founda-
tion—is entirely cut off by an asphalte flooring and iron
steps. The church has been re-painted, and its pews have
been lined anew with green cloth, and a very beautiful
curtain, attached to an extremely well-chosen cornice,
shades the eastern window. Altogether, the building,
which has a truly church appearance, looks remarkably
well. The organ is a well-toned one, and the singing ex-
tremely pleasing, being plain, simple, and devotional.
On the whole we have reason to congratulate Mr. Hassan,
its minister, (who rendered a very particular and interest-
ing account of the repairs, improvements, &c., and their
cost in his sermon,) on the present condition of his church,
and on the means which have been so bountifully supplied
to produce it. He has had a liberal congregation, and in-
dustrious churchwardens, and liberal ones too, if we may
judge by the gift of the senior one, Mr. Bird, who pre-
sented the church on this occasion with the cornice and
curtain—of which we have already made mention.
CHRIST CHURCH.—DIVINE SERVICE ON WEDNESDAY
EVENINGS.—We have heard with much regret that the
worthy and talented pastor of this large and popular place
of worship and his congregation attending on Wednesday
evenings have, for some time past, been greatly annoyed
by the operations going on in the formation of the railway
tunnel from Edge-hill to the North Docks. This tunnel
passes under the top of Hunter-street, in the immediate
vicinity of the church, and not only have the sub-
contractors erected a huge steam-engine opposite to the
main gates of the edifice, which is itself a great obstruc-
tion to persons wishful to attend the church, but the
blasting of rock beneath is, notwithstanding urgent
remonstrances, continued during service on those nights,
to the alarm of females and others of delicate nerves. It
is easy to conceive that many of these feel little inclined
to repeat their visit, and that the attendance for so praise-
worthy and redeeming an object is consequently greatly
reduced. This is not as it should be, nor is there any
necessity that it need be, especially in a crowded district,
the population of which are chiefly poor, and whose desire
for spiritual and moral instruction it were wise rather to
welcome than to discourage. Surely, the " blasting," at
least, may be discontinued by proper arrangements, from
half-past six until nine o'clock on Wednesday evenings,
so that parties might have time (service commencing at
seven) to go, and to return to their homes, without
annoyance. We feel certain that the directors of the
railway are not aware of the fact, otherwise they would not
compromise themselves by promaing its continuance.
To them, therefore, we confidently refer the matter, in
the hope, that, without loss to themselves, they will be
enabled, as far as possible, to remove all grOlind of
future complaint,

THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

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THE LIVERPOOL SHAREBROKERS AND THE
PRESSURE OF CALLS FOR MONEY.

We cannot regard the meeting of the Liverpool Share-
brokers, held on the 10th instant, and the resolutions
entered into, as either unreasonable or obtrusive. Few
men are placed in a position affording greater facilities for
acquiring a knowledge of the effect of the difficulties in
which railway shareholders are placed by the present strin-
gency of the money market, and the effect produced by

companies:pressing for calls at the present time, than share-
brokers are. Many a tale of ruinous sacrifice these gen-
tlemen could relate, as the result of their daily experience.
It is idle folly, then, to treat their resolutions, at their
late meeting, praying for a suspension of the carrying on
of those concerns which are not imperatively necessary to
admit of important lines, or connecting links of such lines,
being completed and opened, as the selfish prayer of in-
terested speculators. The fact is apparent and obvious that,
sooner or later, under the operation of our currency laws,
railway formation, like other branches of enterprise, must
be brought to a deadlock. We may have capital, but
w 3 have not a circulating medium to carry them on ; and
every effort made to fight against the impossibility of so
rininm_ only. -9PrVPQ fn am hn wenca nn Ilninl4ll note

shareholders, guiltless, in nine cases out of ten, of any
fault more heinous than the neglect to take into account,
when embarking upon their various speculations, the fact
that we have a currency system, the workings of which
no man can foresee.
s I The Liverpool Sharebrokers' Association ask for no

more, on behalf of their clients, than what every man is
doing in the conduct of his own business. They ask that
shareholders should not be compelled, in a crisis when
every prudent commercial man is contracting his opera-
tions, to raise money, at usurious rates of interest, to pro-

the alternative of refusing to do so, to sacrifice the
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perty, for which they have paid large sums, for a merely
nominal consideration. They require, as an act of justice,
that railway shareholders should not be held fast between

acilities o

of the holders of railway stock have miscalculated their
means. So have other men. So have all commercial
men. So has the Bank of England itself. So has the
legislature miscalculated the means of the entire public.
The seasons have interposed to frustrate the best devised
schemes of profit. Man proposes, but God only disposes.
The directors of railway schemes ought not to be the only
parties exonerated from the ordinary casualties of human
projects.
We are not for a moment disposed to admit that to res-

devices

HER MAJESTY'S RETURN FROM SCOTLAND

It appears from the Scottish papers that her Majesty
was to set out on Friday from Ardverikie for Fort Wil-
liam—the first stare of the 1 + + 1 n
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tain Turner, an able master employed by a steam com-
pany in Glasgow, was engaged to steer the Fairy yacht
from Fort Augustus to Inverness, and back to Fort Wil-
liam, on Thursday, when Prince Albert would join Her
Majesty. The royal party were to sail on Saturday
morning early, on board the Victoria and Albert, from the
latter place to the western opening of the Crinan Canal.
where the royal barge awaited them. The last stage of
the sea journey was to be performed from Campbeltown
Bay for Fleetwood, from which a railway ride- of two
hundred and thirty miles would bring the royal party to
London.

Great preparations have been made at Fleetwood to do
honour to the royal personages. A beautiful archway,
neatly and appropriately decorated, has been erected from
the pier to the railway station, the royal arms being em-
blazoned over the doorway, with the inscriptions, " God
save the Queen," and " Welcome to Fleetwood." A.
part of the wharf was converted into a saloon for the ac-
,ommodation of the authorities of the town, the directors

of the railway, and others. Here it was arranged the
Queen was to receive the address, and she was then to
pass along a covered way, erected for the occasion, to the
state carriage, which was stationed on a sliding in the
yard behind the landing place. The sides of this were

could see her Majesty, the Prince, and the royal children
as they passed along it. Standing places were also made
in an adjoining yard, and along the sliding on which the
train proceeded. The whole of the way from the landing

place to the sliding was covered with scarlet cloth, and

ecorated with t
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Lancaster " worked in laurel leaves
was profusely adorned with flags.
Fleetwood was full of company, for

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The whole town

whom from the interior, liberal and extensive preparations
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