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which was available?? Whether available or not, this they
must admit, that, having Leea tried, it had proved to be a failure,
—(loud cries of " No, no,"—that was his firm opinion—and, en-
tertaining that opinion;he did think that the hest course they could
purstie wits to abandon the schoids altogether. '[he repugnance
with which one part of-the christian community received in-
struction through the medium of mere selections from the Bible,
and the objections which the other part felt when the whole
Bible was placed in their hands—these two coi,,bioed circum-
stances had had a practical effect in converting the sch:,ols into
little other than sectarian places of education ; and they all
knew that that was the very principle they had all set out to
avoid. He, therefore, said that for the sake of consistency, fur
the sake only of carrying out their own principles, they were
bound to do away with the schools altogether. There was a
duty—a higher obligation than mere attachment to principle—
they were there bound to concede everything to the feeling of
the public, and that feeling had been clearly ascertained. T hey
would give him leave to ask, after the experience of the late
election, whether they were not bound to admit that, on this
subject, the opinion of the public had been declared against
them? (Loud and conflicting cries of "Yes, no, yes, no.") It
was always the part of wise men, to open their eyes to their own
affairs; and it was still more the part of good men, to correct
their errors when they were discovered. Let them show, by a
generous avowal of their mistake, and a determination to amend, ,
that both as wise men and as good men, they were anxious to
do their dutv,,to the public, and thus secure the approbation of
their own 'fiearts. He had now the satisfaction of moving;as
an amendment, "That it be an instruction to the finance com-
mittee to sell the schools on leases of 75 years, in such manner
as they deem hest;—that they be sold in two lots, either for an
annual payment or for a sum laid down ;—and that the same be
made with a stipulation that the same be used as schools for,
the poor." [The speech df Mr. Birch appeared to create a
great sensation in the council room.!
Mr. Councillor JOHN CROPPER in seconding the motion,
said he was not influenced by party motives, as his opinions
upon the subject were expressed before it became a party
question. The council and committee would be continually
composed of men of different opinions, both as regarded politics
and religion. The care of these schools was incompatible with
the duties of the council. If at one time the schools were
Managed satisfactorily, there was no guarantee that they should
continue so; besides which, some of those who did not approve
of them were obliged to pay towards them. As a conscientious
dissenter, he objected to this. He had another objection—
that it was an illegal , appropriation of the corporate funds;
they had no right, unless they had a surplus, to pay towards
their support out of the corporate funds.
Mr. Councillor L. HEYWORTH approved of what bad fallen
from Mr. Birch, and it therefore became necessary for hint to
account for his name standing on the committee. No schools
could have been established on principles of greater justice
than these. (I-leap, hear.) These extracts were the best p dicy
that could have been adopted to fulfil the wishes of all parties,
especially when it was considered that no person could sit down
and read the Bible to his children from beginning to end. In
his opinion the amendment was " a most righteous one," and
one which they were compelled by the existing state of society
to adopt. The best plan was to dispose of these schools. They
would then be maintained on that principle which had been
acknowledged by many to lie the best, namely, the voluntary
principle. The voluntary principle was that which had been
taught by ,the Deity himself, under the Mosaic dispensation.
With regard to the odium which had been cast on the members
of the ediniation committee, he should glory in being the object
of odium for such a cause.
Mr. Councillor W. W. Cuentz hoped that the Councillor
for the Castle-street Ward, would postpone his motion, as they
were perfectly unprepared to deal with the question. Though
it was not necessary at a quarterly meeting to give notice of a
motion, yet as they could nut deal at once with a proposition
of such moment, he (Mr. Currie) trusted that the propounder
-of it would let them have time to give the matter due consider-
ation. -He should be prepared to go the fullest.length in sup-
port of what the Corporation had done, at the 'same time he
would not shut his e‘es to much which was too true in Mr.
Birch's statement, and which he deeply lamented. He trusted
he should never see the Corporation depart from their proud
eminence at the head of the education of the town. It was
quite sufficient for them to possess the pleasing conscious-
ness of having performed their duty unmindful of the oppro-
brium which had been heaped upon them. He repeated, that
he hoped they would not be called upon to proceed in the mat-
ter that day, but would be allowed to give the subject the con-
sideration which its vast importance demanded.
Mr. Councillor Bitten at once assented to the postponetnent
of his motion. And, after some conversation, it was agreed that
the discussion should take place on that day (Wednesday) fort-
night.
Mr. Councillor RATHBONE 810(1 that the member fur Everton
had asked him if the bible were read during the school hours ?
Yes. It was read fur one hour during school-hours? The se-
lections were read as lessons at all other limes. If gentlemen
would look to the good of the town, these schools would go on
well, and in time be an honour to it. He did not believe that
public opinion was against them. He would not give way to the
cry which had been raised against them. He would entreat his
friends, who were of the reform interest, not to yield like cravens
to popular prejudices. He did not mean to throw any sneer on
any friend, especially his friend Mr. Currie; but he did think
when they bore in mind that popular clamour was made ageing'
them, they ought to stand firm to the principles they professed.
The following gentlemen were then.pioposed as the commit
tee:—Messrs. Blackburn, Wahnsley, H. Horuby, -Hope, Las-
sell, Benn, itawdon, Bulley, Barclay, T. Smith, L. -Heyworth;
Rainsden, and Rathbone.

GAOL COMMITTEE.
On the motion of Al r. Robinson, it was resolved that the ma-
gistrates of the borough should constitute the gaol committee.
GARDEN COMMITTER.
The follawiug members were appointed to be the garden com-
mittee :—Messrs. E. Smith, Morecroft, J. Smith, Bright, Black-
burn, and Jordan.
CHURCH ENDOWMENT COMMITTEE.
Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN moved that the same individuals
who had formerly composed this Committee be re-appointed.
Mr. Councillor JAMES HEY WORTH asked if any report had
yet been made, from that Committee ?
The ''OWN OLERK.—Na.
Mr. €ouncillor J. HEY woitTH.—" Have the other Commit-
tees made regular reports ?"
The TOWN CLERIC.—" Yes."
Mr. Councillor J. HEYWORTH.—" May I then ask why this
Committee has not pursued the same course as other Commit-
tees?"
Mr. Councillor BOLTON said, this Committee was engaged in
the prosecution of a law-suit, which was not in a situation to be
reported on. It would be absurd in them to repeat circumstan-
ces which would lay their case open to their opponents. There
was no remissness in the Committee.
Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN said, the Council would surely al-,
low that the Committee themselves were the best judges when
to report.
Mr. Councillor JAMES HEYWORTH rose in explanation. It
seemed to him that he was charged with censuring; he rose for,
information and was perfectly satisfied.
Mr. Councillor CHARLES LAWRENCE said, he objected alto-
gether to the appointment of that Committee. As one of the
old Council he felt bound to take the sense of the present one
as to the conduct of that Committee. The endowment was
made in consequence of a communication with his Majesty's
Government. They had thought that • they were doing what
was required. The law required simply that the matter should
have been brought before the privy council for them to decide
whether they had acted right or wrong. The Committee had
acted otherwise, and it had not done its duty. These were his
thoughts. They ought not to look upon this as a party ques-
tion, but they ought to have gone to the body that was autho-
rised to decide between them. A large body of the clergy was
thost unpleasantly situated, and all through the acts of this
Committee. He should move,—that the day fixed by the Act
of Parliament, for calling in question any of the acts of the
last Council having elapsed, the Committee had not acted pro-
perly, and that, therefore, it should nut be re-appointed.
Mr. Councillor J. N. WOOD begged to second that. He said
he did not know that the corporation had anything to du with
the quest ion, further than after the injunction had been dissolved
the present corporation were made defendants. But what had
they to do with the church endowment question ?
Mr. CURRIR—A gleat deal too much, I am sorry to say.
Have not Mr. Jevons and Mr. Bolton sworn that the)l alone.
were relators on this occasion ?

Mr. BOLTON—No; I never swore at all.
Mr. Woon resumed—Does not my Lord Langdale, in giving
his judgment, state, that the present corporation have nothing
whatever to do with the question? Does not his Majesty's
Attorney-General state, that he appeared in court entirely for
the relators and the relators alone ? And, therefore, 1 don't
see why we should have anything to do with this question : and,
in fact, from the evidence of the Court of Law, Messrs. Bolton
and Jevons are the litigating parties; the town-council are not
litigating the question—they alone are. And I should like to
know how this seat of £254 19s. sd. came to be paid; whether
•itis a legal payment or not. If Messrs. Bolton and Jevons are
relators alone, what have the corporation.to do with paying this
sum to Messrs. Parkes and Preston. If the corporation had
required copies of the information, the odd £4 I9s. sd. would
have been quite sufficient for that expense. And, I should like
also to know, what further sum is to be expended: £251 19s. sd.
has already been expended—which, 1 contend is illegal. I•
have been told that a very large sum was further to be expend.
ed. I believe that about a month or two ago, a letter was sent
to Mr. Town-clerk, by the late Mr. Foster, or by Messrs. Foster
and Lloyd, stating that in order to avoid all intermediate ex-
pences, they suggested the plan of the question going before
the House of Lords at once. Whether that had been douse or
nut, I do nut know; but I should like the Town-clerk to read
that letter, and what answer was made from the endowment-

committee to that letter. I suppose the money which had been
spent, has been for the Solicitor-general—one hundred guineas
fora retaining fee, and twenty guineas with his brief.

- .
• The Msvon, without suggesting What your presumptions
will he, the Town Clerk will be ready- to answer your questions
as soon as you ate seated. You have asked a great many
questions
and we must not hear your suppositions.
insTtrbil'citi.oci,7xtel.k: a K said, the Committee 'were appointed with
take the necessary measures as to the recovery
of a sum ors • 6
been legally pl.i •
it was or out EUs'°"J' at least subject to the question, whether
Mittee took the 'he'
the money of this Corporation, and had or had not
lin the hands of certain trustees. The crim-
advice that the country affords; and when
I say that that adevsite
I think I shall be boerniloculut.cl esTlii,ies l
questionaje strv,s.
aast toonr
one
eig which,e ral,Un-
der any cuctaustanctztrieirired to be settled ; fur I should like
to know from any
who may take a part adverse to
.the course of the corumittieluo
question, how the adVowsons auidteilitivutrittgisi, with reference to that
attached to them could
be fixed, as to their amount,
it,,eq,uestion was settled, or
could be disposed of to advantage to
would bes'
corporate estate. How
granted without
could they have gone to market, unde'rr
owseisiiiction of the
eeelesiastical commissioners, with these athe•
being piepared to say whether a stipend
But independently of that point, a great question eirisetNe,doau sotit:i
the.legaltty of the instrument, and whether the to
not to be recovered back to the corporate estate; and the g 1
majority of the opinions, amounting to 5 to I, were in favour
of its being recovered back. As to those opinions,it would
have been •the height of indiscretion fur gentleinen haYing to
meet their adversaries in court, to have submitted their
opinious to this council, or to any public body. The committee
discretion. Before May, tli`e-,einninittee
found the question thus circumstanced—a law-shit existed, nut
Lad
t a
powerright to.
to expect that the comma committed to them suffi-
cuse their
terminated by any injunction, or the apprehension of any in-
junction—but a law-suit calculated to dispose of this question
as to the church endewment. Under the best advice that the
committee could procure, they came to the conclusioh, tnat
their course was to let, that law-suit go on; and iu so doing they
Were governed, not only by its being the most sunimarY,
but the most economical, end the hest calculated in
its nature for having a solemn determination of the question.
I should think .that any person who has only had some very
slight notion of Chancery proceedings, will appreciate the
directness of that course of the committee. Should they file a
, bill, or petitioh for it .to stand by, or wait till the cause brought '
on by the relators (Mine before the present commit ; there is no
question at ail hut•that the council did that which they had a
right to do,. actatig,under this advice. The question aCcordingly
wept on. carried on by the relators, and no doubt on the invi-
tation or that committee, and under circumstauces w hifli entitled
the relatoi sto the indemnity of the council, as will fully apPear ;
acid it vdll then appear that this payment was made under

TUESDAY MORNING. NOVEMBER 8, 1836.

Although we cannot but rejoice at the prompt suppres-
sion of the late insurrectionary attempts in France, yet
connecting them with a train of events that has passed
before our eyes during the last thirty years, we perceive
in them the remains of a revolutionary fire which per-
• hiaps it will require even a long period yet to conic com-
pletely to extinguish: The seeds of rebellion in this re-
spect resemble other seeds : they may remain long buried
;
symptom of vegetable life
without
any but no sooner
do favourable circumstances conspire than they instantly
begin to germinate—soon appear openly above the
soil-7-4nd if not " nipped in the bud," as has been done
on the present occasion, they speedily blossom, arid bear
abundantly the fruit of destruction. France, it is to be
feared, has many such seeds lying latent in her bosom.
That all fears have not subsided with the suppression of
the present attempt is rendered obvious by the many nn-
usual Military movements observable in Paris. We
hope the activity may proceed from excess of caution ra-
ther than apprehension of danger.

It will be seen in another column that the Anniversary
Meeting of the Protestant Association has been held in
Liverpool—a meeting, as such meetings usually are, (and
let it be mentioned to the honour of Protestant Britain,)
Most respectably and numerously attended. We never
witness such a scene without feeling it to be a most con-
vincing argument, as well as an unequivocal declaration,
in favour of that growing attachment to our Protestant
Establishment, which these meetings were originally in-
tended to elicit. There is nothing in the invitation here
given that ministers to the vitiated appetites of our na-
ture—nothing to gratify, through the medium of sense,
even those delightful emotions of taste, which a culti-
vated sensibility imparts—there are no highly-wrought
passion presented to the eye, such as the
pictures of
drama affords to its votaries, to awaken an intense inte-
rest. No; they who assemble together at a protestant
meeting like this, must ha% e motives of a higher order—
a chord of sublime tone must be made to vibrate—senti-
ments of a holier and more heart-subduing character
must fill their minds. They meet to add their seal to
their profession of venerating the altars at which their
fathers and their forefathers, for many generations, wor•
shipped—to express their anxiety of transmitting to their
posterity the same glorious liberty of Protestantism
which they themselves :have enjoyed. They meet, that

the mists or papal error may he disposed by the light of
Protestant trutiv—that the pure religion of the Bible-may
be proclaimed to be the acknowledged religion of the
subjects of Britain. But there is also a deep-seated per-
sonal feeling in the mind of 'the true chtistian, which
brings him into these Protestant assemblies; The Bible—
' the word of God—awful expression !--Lis to him a trea-
sure-hotise of divine wisdom and consolation—a refuge
from " the windy storm" of temporal anxiety—a balm
that can 'minister to a mind diseased"—can "pluck
from the memory arooted sorrow"—can raze nut the
written troubles of the brain"—aye, and with a "sweet,"
but not "oblivious antidote," can "cleanse the foul bo-
om of that perilous stun- that weighs upon the heart."
He, therefore, meets 'to preserve to himself, and to hand
doWn, unimpaired, to posterity thisuineitimable
How does his heart agonize when he looks through the
perspective of another generation, and, trembling, sees
his children forsaking that "only name under heaven
given among men whereby we can be saved"—Jeans
Christ—and impiously, and senselessly, kneeling down'
before pictures, and offering up prayers to saints who
hear not ; or blasphemously asking of the Virgin Mary
not only to intercedefor; but to forgive sin. Oh ! when
he looks at his fireside, and sees his evening family group
assembled round him to hear that word of God' read to
them, and afterwards to unite in their petitions to Him
who is the author of "every good and every perfect
gift," and then is awakened by the thought, that when he
is passed into the grave and his children shall succeed to
his place and duties, no Bible will be found in his habita-
tion—the voice of praise and supplication will be for ever
lie be aronsed, and joyfully must he
meet in assemblies like this, to support those Protestant
institutions Which are the best, the only safeguards of
'religious liberty. The infidel in his ignorance may
scoff, the Papist in his idolatry may smile, and the soci-
nian in the elation of intellectual pride may contemn it;
but the genuine Christian knows, that there is an incom-
municable joy in those little family meetings, more real
and more 'substantial, than riot, in all its prodigality,
'ever offered to sense.
But while we thus contend for the faith once delivered
to the saints, from personal considerations we also 'feel
impelled to stand forward as promulgators of that faith
to the benighted people around us. If churchman and
dissenter unite in their desire, and equally labour to en-
lighten " the dark places of the earth," to instruct the
civilized idolator of China, the ignorant savage of New
Zealand, and to diffuse the glorious light of the gospel of
'truth over.the frigid coast of Greenland and the scattered
islands of Australasia, is there not a more imperative call
to address themselves to the poor deluded catholic, whose
spiritual bondage is the more gloriotis, because it is the
imposition of treachery and craft. If it be true, and true
it incontestably is, what Petrarch declares, " Religio
optima ac perfecta unit est, supra Christi nomen, supraque
petram firmissimam fundata : reliquiw ()runes supersti
tiones vanse, et device, et errores sunt, quibus est iter ad
tartarum, atque ad Moitein,'non hanc momentaneam sed
wternom."‘ Can we, with this terrible issue before us,
hold ourselves irresponsible if we neglect any means of
rescuing men —men ! of rescuing our follow- subjects
from eternal perdition ? And what method can be de-
vised so probable of success as that of these protestant
meetings 1 From them .a loud voice that will be heard
to the farthest shore of Britain proclaims the message of
truth—fraud is stripped of its mask—liberty is published
to the slaves of papal tyranny—secular priestcraft is made

to tremble beneath its 'gownand political oppressors
shrink back 'under its appalling note. If many turn a
deaf ear to the proclamations of these meetings,'and some
are excited to gteatet paroxysms of rage by them, yet
here and there the chain is unrivetted. One heart melts
at the glad tidings, and another is aroused to inquiry ;
and, like every other effusion of the word of God, neither
does this " return void."
It would be superfluous on this occasion to enumerate'
the many and deadly errors of the ChUrch of RoMe. TO
them public attention has been drawn by the brilliant
exposures of the present meeting. We most earnestly
entreat of all who have heard and of all who read them to re-
member that they are not speculative but practical errors
—not errors that involve questions of time, but eternity
also—not errors of individual import alone, but errors
that influence iu their first and last consequences the
well-being of society. Kings and kingdomS are the ob-.
jects of its sport, and the time has been, when crowns and

sceptres have been mere playthings in the papal nursery
of Rome. But learning, the literce humaniores, the pro.
gress of civilization, have meliorated, say the partizans
of papacy, this spirit of tyranny and persecution—instead
of being as he once was, Satan, " transformed into an an-
gel of light," the scourge of time !lath " whipped the of-
fending devil out of him," and he is become the purest
benevolence personified. What mean, my kind friend,
all these footsteps leading to thy den, and not one vesti-
glum retrorsum Oh, our eyes must be obstructed with
a fatal gotta serena—our minds must be the abodes of
the most sluggish insensibility—we must have wiped
away " all record" from the " tablet of the brain" which
" note or observation" hath inscribed upon it before we
can credit this flattering, this delusive picture. Papacy
received on its forehead at its birth the stamp and fin-
press of error and oppression, immutable and immitigable.
If we look at papacy, as exercising an influence over
the political welfare only of nations, we find it like a
deadly upas,destroying every flower of liberty near it—
we find to it the hand of tyranny crushing in its grasp
every object that can favour civil independence. Look
at Ireland—to what lengths of enormity has the priest-
craft of Romanism led its deluded and spirit-bound sub-
jects ? What a fertile field is it become for political
agitation—what a hydra-headed monster of rebellion has
it there engendered, which mocks even the sword ofjus-
tice! And shall we believe that papacy is another crea-
ture in England ? Here it is the caged tiger. It may
have lost something of its ferocious exterior, but the un-
tameable heart remains unchanged: It is now struggling
no get free; and, although it is still safely chained under
legal restraint, yet we cannot but perceive that if it were

emancipated from all controul it would instantly assume
its natural character. We are too apt to slumber in se-
curity when immediate danger does not awaken us to

exertion. But let us not close our eyes to the indefati-
gable labours of Romanism now making to recover do-
minion in this land. Behold in what quick succession
her chapels are rising in every section of the country.
See with What untired assiduity her slaves are circulating
their pernicious tracts—observe them waiting at the
doors of churches to drop the poisoned page into the hand
,of the unsuspecting. Listen to their audacious, but spe-
cionS harangues, delivered before mixed multitudes of
Englishmen—insulting our very srteets with the disseini-
nation of their polluting doctrines—and all these with
an evident design to gain political ascendancy, Think,
fellow townsmen, of these things, and you will see the
propriety, and acknowledge the necessity of these pro-
testant meetings.

The Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer and his
eldestmatyBs,(m, Mr. Rice; arrived yesterday, from his
packet Thetis, Captain Townley. They proceeded.
'on Immediately to town, via Manchester.
BLUE COAT HOSPITAL—II will he seen by an advertisement
in another part of to-days paper, that a sermon will be preached
on Sunday next, in St. Peter's Church. by the Rev. Rector
Brooks, and a collection made in hid of the funds of thisinsti-
totion. We understen'd that his worship the Mayor has'signi-
tied his intention of being pre,ent on the oceasilm:
Sr. MARY'S CHURCH, KIRKDALE.—We perceive, by an
announcement in another column. that the Lord Bishop of
Chester will preach a sermon on Monday next, at St. Mary's
Church, Kirkdale, when a collection will be made for the put—,
pose of providing free sittings in the church.
THE THEATe E.—The lovers of the drama will perceive that
a treat is provided for them this evening. An excellent " hill
of fare" is announced. The acting of Miss Chaplin.- (whose
benefit it is,) in " The Little Jockey," as The Little Jockey
has frequently been admired. Stuart ties also announced Shak-
speare s fine tragedy of " Coriolanus" for his benefit, on Mon-
day evening, when we trust his friends will rally round him and
testify their sense of his high uteri's itS an actor, by "liliitighim
a bumper."
'I HR SPAS IN GERMANY —llO CI alebeate pro-
perties of tin' Stodlitz Waters in Germane have long been held
in high estimation. and their efficacy in all cases of scrofula'and
other cotaneons affections has been fully eStablished. A cor-
rect analysis of the powders nrepared by Mr. Wray; of HOlhorn
Hill, by several eminent professors of chemistry. has proved that'
they contain the valuable mineral tonic, on whirl, the dittoes
of the real waters so much depeud,
in an active and. unimpaired
state, and the absence of which in the common senoilz
dens, probahli• accounts ftir their utter int ffiescy in all cases
where the eenoine waters liner proved so highly beneficial. All
the atiyantsees may now be derived from the use of Wrav's
Chalvbe,te German Seoliitz Powders as would he ex perienved
(ruin eytetwated cuntinental Sprinyv,. the cx..
tomee anti inconvenience of which, too often place., it out of the
teach of many who would be hinny to avail themseiVes of their
renovating. properties,—T'/!c News.