The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1838-06-26 00:00:00

NEW ZEALAND.

Mr. F. BARING moved the second leading of the lNew Zealand
bill. The hon. gentleman went into a lengthened statement of
the object of the company with'reference to which this bill was
framed. The company's object was to purchase lands in New
Zealand, and to improve the country. He blamed the govern-
ment for not having granted a charter to the company. He
concluded by moving the second reading of the New Zealand
bill.

Sir G. GREY should vote against the bill ; and he begged leave
to move, as an amendment, that the bill should be read a second
time that day
,six months.
Mr. HA
W ES said, the conduct of government showed a change
of opinion which was scarcely consistent with good faith. He
had himself heard the noble lord ( Lord Howick) say, it was
,
not his wish to throw cold water on the project. He understood
those words as conveying a sanction, and he was very much
surprised to see the government now opposing the measure..
Mr. GLAbsToNE opposed the bill. It was a subject which
required more consideration than they could give to it at the
present period of the session. •

Mr. WARD said, the house ought, to suffer the, bill to be rend
a second titne,,and that. her majesty's government ought to be
the last petsons to oppose it.
I,ord Hns try said. he had some ono.e tn complain or the
manner in which his acquiescence to the measure had been
stated. If he had aiveu the slightest Assent to the measure, he
shoUld have been the last man to stand up in that house and
deny it. Each clause of the bill seemed, if possible, more mon-
strous than the oth,-r. It was one mass of inconsistency from
first to last. His hope was, that the house would not proceed
with abill go defective.

Sir WALTER JAMES would oppose the second reading of the
bill. He did not think that the functions of government should
be taken away from the native chiefs.
Mr. VILLIERS thought the doctrines put forth against the
second reading of the bill were most extraordinary. Nothing
had been adVanced during the debate which should prevent the
noble lord from allowing the bill to go into committee.
Mr. Gotit.iiilits thought that colonization ought always to be
carried on under the superintendence, and subject to the con•
trol, of government. Extraordinary power ought not to be
given to private individuals. The question was not one of
detail, but of principle.
Mr. P. HOWARD supported the second reading of the bill.
Lord SAN DON opposed the bill.
Mr. PEASE thought the bill interfered too much with the
independent rights of the people of New Zealand.
Mr. BARING replied.
The house then divided, and the numbers were-I'or the
second reading, 32; against it, 92; majority against thesecond
reading, GO.

THR COPYRIGHT BILL.

On the question, that the copyright bill be taken into further
consideration, Mr. GLAnsroNx expressed a hope that the hon.
and learned member (Sergeant Talfourd) would postpone the
bill to the next session.
After a little conversation, the hon. and learned gentleman
postponed the hill. •
Sir E. SconEN remarked, that there were several other bills
lying on the table; and he wished that the hon. members who
introduced them would follow the example of the hon. and
learned member, and withdraw thetn.
Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN said, that he, as the mover of one of
those bills—the sheriffs' (Ireland) bill, would withdraw it.—
(Hear.)
OBSERVANCE OF THE SABBATH BILL.
Mr. PLUMPTRE moved, that the bill for the better observance
of the Sabbath be recommitted,
Mr. WART) said, that after the excellent example which had
been just set, he thought the hon. member ought to withdraw
his bill.

The SOLICITOR-GENERAL. concurred in the request of the
hon. member for Sheffield. The bill before the house was, in
fact, no more than a repetition of the present law on the sub-
ject, merely increasing the penalties. Would any hon, member
say, that the mere increase of the penalty would be effectual, or
where a penalty of five shillings was at present, though specified
by the law, not levied, would a penalty of twenty shillings be
more ri;zoronsly exacted

Rl r. U M 141 M said, the bill would only prohibit idle drinking
and tippling.
Mr. HAWES concurred with the hon. member for Sheffield.
He thought that, by the exemption dallies, all public-houses
would be closed. it ut was the hon. member, just 7 Would he
' shut up the club-houses ? (Hear.) "Am I," said the hon.
member, "prevented from attending the club-house which I
may choose to frequent ?" Let it be understood then by the
labouring population, that the only house which they can resort
to will he closed by this bill, and that no man can drink there
without being liable to committal for tipling.
Mr. Gour.ricaN said, that the hon. member certainly ought
not to argue that the same laws should be enforced with respect
to club-houses and public-Noses.
Captain PRCHIILL said, the hon. member. he thought, ought
to introduce an exception in favour of the landing of fish on a
Sunday.
Mr. WARD said, that, although he bad already on that night
expressed his opposition to the bill, he had not formally made
the motion which he intended to make. H e should then, there-
fore, move that the bill be read again that day three months.
Mr. JERVIS seconded the motion. He said that he, in com-
mon with every member of the house, gave credit to the hon.
member for Kent for the honesty of his motives; but he thought
the legislation he was introducing most impolitic. He had
expected that the hon. member would have brought in some
measure to prevent some specific acts. Such had been the
advice of the bon. member for Tamworth ; but the honourable
member, on the eontrary, had brought in a general measure,
and then sought to guard it by specific exemptions. The effects
of this bill e-ould be most prejudicial. What would become of
furnaces, should it cot be permitted that they should be kept hot
on the Lord's day, and should the labour of many previous days
in heating them "rtie frustrated Should mining operations also
be suspended on that day? By this bill bakers would be pre-
vented from working on a Sunday; and thus, while one baker
would he prevented from violating the Sabbath, the wives of 20
or 30 men would be prevented front dressing themselves and
going to church, as they would have to do what would otherwise
be done at the baker's.

Sir E. SCGDEN thought that bakers would not be prevented
from doing their customers' business by the bill on the Lord's
day.

Mr. GnoTE said, the objections which he entertained towards
the previous Sabbath bills applied to the present measure.
Mr. A. WHITE said he should vote for the re-committal of
the bill.

Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the house divided :
the numbers were—for the re-committal, 75 ; against it, 53.
The house then went into committee on the bill. After a pro-
tracted and desultory discussion, no progress being made with
the measure before the committee, it was resolved to report
progress.
The house adjourned at half-past two o'clock.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—THURSDAY.
Earl STANHOPE presented a petition from the Guardians of
the Poor Law Union of St. George's, Southwark, against the
new Poor Law. Also a similar petition from Ashton•under-
Lyne. In presenting this petition the noble earl said, it was
not trne, as had been stated, that the Rev. Mr. Stephens, of
that town, had used inflammatory language in regard to the
Poor Law. The noble and learned lord opposite (Lord
Brougham) had used language more inflammatory, if not trea-
sonable language, (Laughter.) It is quite untrue that I ever
made an inflammatory harangue to the people of Birmingham,
as it has been stated. I never stopped in that great town longer
than to change horses; nor did I ever say, as it has been im-
puted to me, that I hope to see the day when the heads of kings
should he made footballs for little boys to kick along the streets.
(Loud laughter.) I leave to your lordship to say, whether this
is my usual way of expressing myself on any subject.
Laird LYNDHCRST asked ,4hether any account had been re-
ceived of the burning of a British steamer on the St. Lawrence,
byway of retaliation.

-Lord MELBOURNE answered, that, as yet, he had received no
official account.

Lord Goseoan presented a petition from the Bishop, Vicars-
General, and others of the Catholic Clergy of the District of
Quebec, expressing regret at the outrages which had been com-
mitted in Lower Canada, and hoping, that the acts of a small
part of ate population would not expose the whole to punish-
ment. His lordship added, that, when the petitioners stated it
was only a small portion of the inhabitants who were tainted
with disloyalty, he could bear testimony to the truth of the
statement. he petitioners also stated, that they would view
with abhorrence a legislative union between the two provinces,
and in that respect also he thought them right.
Lord BROUGHAM said, he hoped he should have the support
of the noble earl, if he should call upon their lordships to.avail
themselves of a clause in the Canada Bill enabling the Legisla-
ture to repeal the bill in the present session, and that the "dic-
tatorial mission" which had been sent out to Canada, where the
inhabitants appeared to he so loyal, should be repealed.
The report of the Irish Poor Law Bill was brought up. The
bill was subsequently recommitted, and, after going through a
number of clauses, the committee reported progress.
Lord GLENELG, in reply to a question from Lord Brougham,
confirmed the accounts received respecting thedetermination of
the Legislatures of Barbados and other West India Islands to
abolish the apprenticeship system in August next ; and his lord-
ship stated, that a similar resolution was about to be proposed
by the Legislative Council of Jamaica.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS —TII URSDA T.
i body
Viscount S A N DO N presented a petition from a numerous
to the
s
of merchants and others of Liverpool, in reference
foreign commerce of this country, but, from thefe lowt tune of
ren
voice in which the noble lord spoke, he was inaudible in the
gallery.
Mr.O'Cossim,r., seeing the Underecretary for the Colonies
any report had reached
in his place, would ask him, first,
whethers. Secretary
if' so, whether it was
him from the island
(
trite that the legislatur)fel3orthhaa(lt.c:(otlohne given to the negro ar.vhad passed an act by
which complete emancipation wast 1838; and secondly, whether
prepuces from the first of Angus ,
that any other of the British colonies
set. them. ?
there was any probability'
would follow the example which tiaillteen
Sir GRORGE GRAY had !Mil satisfaction in stating, that, by
the mail arrival that day, he had received an account from
Barbados,
that the legislature in ait colony had passed an act
by which complete and unqualified freedom had been granted to
the' negro apprentices of that colony front the first of Auvust
He had also received a similar account from
inhecx
(t..°lo(nCyhoere (Cheers.)
Kitt's,—(cheers)—where reso!utions had been
had been adopted which, no doubt, by this time, where einlbodied
in an act, to the same effect. (Cheers.) T h e accounts he had
received front the West Indies also led hint contidchtly to be-

lieve. that the other colonies would very probably follow the
example. (Cheers.) In Janmiza the legislative assembly had
been called together on the 51h of the present month, for the
purpose of carrying so desirable an object into cfrect. The
governor had, howrver, previously submitted resolutions to the
council, although not in their legislative capacity, and he was
happy to say, that every member of that body was of opinion,
that sorb a measure would be conducive to the best interests of
society. ( Hear, hear, hear l) After debates on several other
matters,

Sir S. CANNING moved for the appointment of a select com-
mittee on the subject of the seizure of the Vixen.
A long discusAion followed, and the motion was ultimately
lost by a majority of 16-200 to 184 ; majority 16. The an-
nouncement was loudly cheered. The house adjourned at 20
minutes pas one.