The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1841-05-21 00:00:00

CHURCH PASTORAL-.

ID SOCIETY

titution was held in the great
The right hon. Lord
form were the Bi-
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Sir d. Rose, M. P.,

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Sir G. Rose, M.P.,

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f upwards of 270 names

en, and thirty-five

i in their 1-abouis by the society.

The committee have the
abours of the curates, and
have directly led to the

,nd measures
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.ipon expressing his regret that
:e absence from London ren-

:o attend the meeting, and ano-

so a letter

.s as follow

, St. Paul's, May 11, 1841.
ir,—lt is with great concern that I find myself
Ly state of health, to attend the annual meet-
oh Pastoral-Aid Society this day. I was de-
lg testimony to th'b very great usefulness of
1 more especially anxious to make my acknow-
kind and libeial aid afforded in my own

" Deaner

plication, sanctioned by myself, has been
aded to, and, as far as the funds of the society
bountifully answered. I have never met with

iion'to interfere with my province, or
Mood in need of assistance. My
aof curate has always been deemed
a recommendation has proceeded from
felt the benefit of strict inquiry into
rty recommended. Nothing in-
than that those who supply the
or from a fund in-

ambent who a'

the pa

a their c

ould satisfy themselves

bestowed.
ard•and read, as

ter of corn-

lee no evidence of a narrow or
ley make, and I firmly believe
motive than a wish to assist the
her duties where assistance is

with her established autho-
reuch upon those authorities

r paper is of any value, you are per- I
tat use of it you may think
ur faithful and obliged servant,
(Signed) "E. LI.ANDAFN.
Leh Pastoral Aid Society."
:r elicited repeated applause.)
Ut rose to move the first reso-
auded. He said, after a few
g as I do, that the principle of
rich the doctrine and discipline
carrying out this principle in a
rives and her discipline, I in-
of the society, and there I have
I need look only into the experi-
id I entirely concur in the letter
a diocese in which I never can
Lttterest, and over which that
:est interests. (Hear, bear.)
rely what I too have found,
have all found, I believe, to
-a concurrence in my lawful
cclesiastical establishment of
How is it then, that I find
s of the report, that attacks
ty ? Why, I think one reason
nded it, and I heartily join in
be continued, the same result
self, 1 can profess most
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FIELD proposed the second resolution

y, this society well deserves your support;
pbrt of every member of the Church of
," and applause.) I am well aware that
n denounced as not being a church socie-
if a church society have been put forward
exclude it from that character ; but
as arbitrary as they are unauthorised.
if they were true. their tendency would
church societies altogether. (Applause.)'
iciety can exist unless the archbishops and

qembers thereof, then it is in the power
relate, from caprice or any other motive,
f, and to deprive the society of its church
hear.) And if such church societies only
) assist the church, then the church, ac-
nition and principle, will be deprived al-.
notary assistance of the people. (Hear,
away with such rash, and dangerous, and
tions of church societies; and I trust we
of the Pastoral-Aid Society not being a
Hear," and applause.) If the object of
the salvation of souls, with a single eye
)d," then the Pastoral-Aid Society is a
the object of a church society be a re-
af the church on the one hand, and the
Dh on the other," then the Pastoral-Aid
L society ; if to make the church effective

:idings of salvation to every man's door',
rch, be the object of a church society,
d Society is a church society. (" Hear,
) But it would be endless to repeat the
y- to be considered a church society ; in
3e excluded by those rash and unautho-
which he had already alluded. (Hear.)
most men, the importance of an esta-
ke the Church of England, in connexion
overeign being the head, for the mainte-
;ion in the land. -But, at the same time,
t no endowment, however large, would
,hed church in a state of efficiency, with-
exertions on the part of the members of
1-.) My conviction is, that for a church
and state, it is necessary that voluntary
hand in hand with endowment, and the

s concert, each would supply the
bear.) The subject of volun-
n with the Church of England,
5eS at borne, is new, and there-
Id to the Pastoral-Aid Society
institution of the kind
übiect is better un-

d experience
g LEI.
- opposition to which
nd that more harmony, and
11 prevail among us. (Ap-
more impressed than we are with
aL souls, if we had in us more of the mind
instead of being in opposition to such a
thankful should we be that it has been
3e. and made instrumental for so much

1 love,

)h, if v

! (Hear, heat.) Yes; we should thankfully receive
,sistance, instead of unthankfully rejecting it. But we

are told that this society interferes with the jurisdiction of
the bishops In reply to this, I will say, with the right rev.
prelate whose letter has been read to you, and with my right
rev. friends who have spoken, that I am not sensible of
Interference with my jurisdiction. (Hear, hear.)
when a candidate for orders comes to me
iS to be paid from this society, I know that his
--,icter have been scrutinized with more
'len you consider the difficulty

getting satisfactory testimonials in
he is liable to be misled and de-
,t say, that I regard the inquiries

made by this society as a great additional security tor tne
usefulness of the person so nominated. (Hear, hear.) I
will go farther, and venture to say, without reference parti-
cularly to any other society, that the young men paid by this
institution will bear a favourable comparison with the same
number of voune men of.any class, or taken in any manner

you please, in point of character and usefulness as ministers
of the gospel. (Applause.) Again, the Pastoral Aid Society
has been blamed for the employment of lay agents. I can
only say, in concurrence with a right rev. friend of mine,
that they employ no lay agents at all. (Hear.) If a cle.gy-
man is in want of a lay agent, and makes application to the
society, the circumstances are considered, and this society
may supply its aid, but the clergy,”an is responsible for the
appointment in conjunction with u c bishop, for in each case
I believe the bishop is also consulted. Therefore no blame
rests on the society in this depirtment. (Hear.) But after
all this employment of lay agents is not so unusual as some
would have you suppose. If you turn to the report of the
report of the Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in
Foreign Parts, even as late as 1840, you will find lay agents
under the name of catechists, spoken of in almost every
page ; and these lay agents or catechists are not so confined
in their labours as the lay agenti paid by the Pastoral Aid
Society, but in many instances are employed as preachers,'
and that too under the sanction of the bishops of the dioceses
in which they labour. (Hear, hear.) And if they may be
employed in the colonies, there is no reason, on principle at
least, why they should not be employed in the mother coun-
try. (Applause.) It may be that the objectors to this so-
ciety may succeed in injuring if not destroying it, which
God forbid ! But if they have the satisfaction of injuring
the society, they have also on their heads the responsibility
of doing so, and of depriving thousands, perhaps tens of
thousands, of their fellow-countrymen of the bread of life.

(Hear.) .
The Rev. E. TOTTENHAM!, Prebendary of Wells, seconded
the resolution.
The Rev. HUGH WNEILE proposed the third resolution.
After rendering his thanks to the society for the assistance
derived from its funds to the town of Liverpool, in the sup-
ply of salaries of £lOO a-year each for five curates, He en-
larged.upon the duties of the legislature with regard to the
church, and upon the necessity of its pronouncing judg-
ment and acting with decision when there were con-
flicting opinions amongst the people. He then went on
to say,--Many of you will wonder, after what you have
heard to-day, that an objection, in language which I shall
now read, should hive been urged at all, and still mete from
authority. It is extremely painful to be obliged to announce
that the objection in question has been urged by one of the
bishops of the church. But I deeply feel the necessity of
honestly saying this. lam quite convinced that, unless we
honestly avow this at some period of our anniversary pro-
ceedings, we shall be taunted by those who will say that we
were afraid to give the objection its due weight by announ-
cing from what quarter it proceeded. (Hear.) It is pain-
ful, then, to say that an objection has been urged in this way
by one of our respected prelates, that " there was a desire
on the part of the managers of the society to make the funds
which' they administered subservient, if not to party pur-
poses, at least to an encroachment on the rights and duties
of incumbents and their bishops, which was in his opinion
hardly consistent with the profession of being a church so-
ciety. He alluded to the claim of the committee of that
society in London to exercise a judgment on the qualifica-
tions of the clergyman, or of the candidate for holy orders,
nominated by an incumbent to be his assistant, even though
that nomination had received the sanction and approbation
of the bishop." This objection rests, you will perceive, from
what has already been stated, on an inversion of what really
is the order of proceeding. There can be no ground for this
objection if the, order prescribed in the rules of the society
be observed, and if they are not observed, the fault must be
in this : so far as the regular provision for the established
church goes, there is no opportunity for this society to come
in with any interference; where that provision fails, where a
poor incumbent with a large population is anxious to have a
curate, and the society is willing to pay him, this society
gives him the option to conic if he will. But how, if he will ?
The society presents its rules to the incumbent : if he does
not approve of them, I cannot suppose that he will conde-
scend to avail himself of the funds of the society. If
he does not approve of the rules, he is where he was had
the society never existed, and it has injured him not at
• all. It presumes not to interfere with him ; it leaves
.ety, I have been led to look him where he was. He has found this opening, and
, and the more I have examined nothing has shut it except his own disapprobation of the
at its principles, the more I find rules of the society. And is that any injury ? Surely not.
a that which I should have desired, But if he should approve the rules and apply, and do not
for the good of our church. (Ap- succed ;if on his nominee being mentioned, any occurrence,
and in some quarters of what is called no matter what, should arise to cause the committee of the
se application of terms. I should, society to decline his proposal, still he is not injured; he is
(Hear.) 1 have no sym- then but where he would have been had there beer, no society
in days like the present, when it is established ; the society has done him no harm. From cer-
A who love the Lord Jesus Christ in tain circumstances it happens that we can do him no good ;
d our Zion and unfurl the banner of but still we have done him no mischief. If he send another
ympathy with those who, in days like and succeed, and obtain the grant for his friend, then, and
,in any days, would thrust one more not before, shall he go and make known the case to his bi-
our church. (Great applause.) I feel shop, and if he get from his lordship his final cognizance of
ith such views. (Renewed applause.) the qualification of his nominee, I cannot see how the colli-
that the great mass of the clergy, and sion contemplated by this objection can arise, unless there
members of our church, all show that may be a design on the part of the incumbent to create a
congenial with them. (Prolonged ap- collision. (Hear, hear.) I protest against insinuating
Lied that such a mode of meeting our against any clergyman of the Church of England that he
r Redeemer's cause will only have the would do so ' • but Ido not see how it can arise without such
us that Satan divides to conquer, and a design, or the culpable neglect of the bishop, in taking cog-
re to see Satan trampled under the feet nizance of the nominee without first knowing where his sa-
must -so much the more join in unity ',try is to come from. Is it the custom of bishops to give
ration and sympathy, in order to resist the their sanction to the appointment of a curate without know-
Church unity on church principles, that ing how he. is to be paid? I believe not. Suppose an in-
co of our society. (Applause.) The right cumbent, through mistake or otherwise, comes to the bishop
ided by moving the adoption of the report. and asks his sanction for the appointment of a certain young
"2 RESTER. seconded the motion. His lord- friend to be his assistant. The bishop asks, how is he to be
one join entirely in the sentiments of my paid ? By the Church Pastoral Aid Society. Is the grant
ter, the Bishop of Llandaff. lam truly actually made ? If it is. there is no more collision with the
,ciety bearing part of that burden which is bishop, he is dumb. But if not, the bishop would then say,
for relieving me of much which it is " You are premature in applying to me, when you are not
"barge. (Hear.) I consider, that prepared to specify a salary. You are, therefore, not in a
agitating the land, and on condition to ask for my episcopal cognizance of the appoint-
. interests must depend. It meat of your nominee. Arrange the salary first, and then I
erable portion=not a proportion will proceed to take cognizance of your nominee, and after
Jf the population have of late years my cognizance there can be no interference from any one."
ie Established Church of our land, and (Hear, hear.) There is a passage in the speech from which
I now "think is under experiment, is, I have quoted, which, however painful, I must read. The
ement arises from a want of cordiality right rev. prelate said, that "he wished to speak with entire
agreement with her discipline, or whe- respect for the ten eminent prelates who gave their revered
in the inadequacy of that Church to sue- names as patrons, and who would be not only unwilling to
try requires, and to meet the demands sanction anything which in snch a manner was open to just
iss population has raised. If it be that this exception, but were also, he freely admitted, entitled to the
stion really opposes her doctrines or pos- highest confidence in all things which they deliberately did
that is contradictory to her discipline, then or sanctioned; and he should be more doubtful than he
that, in proportion as we approach this popu- now felt of the soundness of his own judgment on the
a nearer intercourse with it, so will it be point in question, if he believed that those distinguished
in hostility against us : for the nearer you ap- prelates had given their deliberate sanction to this part
rsary the more you irritate him. Well, this of their society's operations." Here is an insinuation
been tried, but it has not been found that the against the ten right rev. prelates to whom he alludes,
en estranged from the Church, but that the and whom he so highly commends, which has received a
int of the means of instruction to carry out deliberate and decided contradiction this day in your hearing.
been estranged from the people. (Hear.) Of Therefore, I hope the right rev. prelate who made that fin-
ish a proof. In the course of the last seven sinuation will become more " doubtful of the soundness of
) churches have been opened in the diocese of his own judgment." (Laughter and applause.) There is a
-e in almost every one of them is an further concession too, which it is well to add :—" If the
,regation : some of them have already proved great body of the contributors were induced by this consi-
-lemand being greater than was anticipated ; deration (the claim of the committee) to make their codtri-
even been enlarged. Here then is a proof butions, then the committee might fairly claim to act in the
perintendence and care will bring the people capacity of patrons." 1 think lam not too sanguine in hop-
), for want of shepherds, and through that ing, that when the matter is investigated, we shall have the
I wandered from the fold. (Hear, hear.) right rev. prelate among the patrons of this society ; for he
ad superintendence—without these nothing admits fully, that if the contributors are induced by this con-
I these cannot be given without the aid of sideration to give to the funds. then the committee may fairly
.e now advocating. But I could fatigue the claim to act as patrons. But under what inducements have
imonies I could produce of the attachment the subscribers given their money? The rules of the society
e Chubb of their forefathers. (Applause.) are all printed; there is no obtaining money under false pre-
has been reported to me of a parish in- tences. The rules are circulated ; and it is not customary
, colliers, and labouring persons, four sta- for English ladies and gentlemen to give their money without
,ekly lectures have been established and reason—without knowing what they give it for. Now if these
,a. There were not less than 5,000 in- rules have been before the country, and the contributions
ay well be supposed that the labours of from the public who have seen those rules have gradually in-
-st such a population must sink into creased from £2OOO. to £20,000. in five years, the committee
In another case it is reported, " So- ;nay fairly, in the opinion of the right rev. prelate, claim to
" (Hear, hear.) " Three act in the capacity of patrons as far as this society is con-
clergyman here with a population cerned. (Hear, hear.) But there is a further objection
•sistance rendered by the Society against the parallelism of the position of patrons But
and the result is, that Social- even if the committee were fully and equitably entitled to
',affection much subdued. Effi- consider themselves as patrons, yet he must think that there
_se in educating the population, is a manifest and important difference between the exercise of
must be under the regular 'superin- patronage in the selection of incumbents, and in the selection
' Here then it is proved, that, under of assistants to incumbents. Assistants ought, in his opinion,
the course of a short space of time, to be such as are likely to be what their very name implies,
Ars, the whole population may be re- assistants to the incumbent in the care of the parish com-
inaeed means be used commensurate mitted to his charge." I agree in this. It has been over
st' an increasing population. (Hear.) and over again stated, that the incumbent appoints his own
he blessing of God still continues to assistant. Although the assistants in question, when consi-
'-,1l not see it, but I trust you may, dered in connection with exigences of a parish, may be called
ige in the whole face of assistants to the incumbents, yet, practically considered, they
saust be, as we are constantly re- really are additional pastors ; they have a distinct duty to
that Divine favour to which the reso- perform, and another range of the population to attend to.
and that alone can we owe our whole There was another point. The right reverend prelate asked,
's to the grace of God for putting it " Was it fitting, was it decent, was it consistent with the ac-
'pie of this country to contribute of knowledged constitution of the Christian church among us
'.he spiritual advancement of those to force such aid upon other bishops ?" Surely, surely, there
never seen, nor are likely to see on is a misunderstanding here. Surely we may repeat our con-
nsve all, we must look to the grace fidence that upon an understanding aimed at with good faith,
'arts of faithful men to become in kindness and sincerity, being established, and the misun-
derstanding being removed, we shall hear no more from any
such quarter of such objections to this institution. (Hear.)
We cannot flatter ourselves that objections from every quar-
ter will be silenced, but I do confidently flatter myself, that
after what has passed this day—after the speeches we have
heard from this platform,—after the concurrent testimony of
four prelates of our church, and the arguments which have
been added thereto, we shall bear no more from such quar-
ters. (Hear.) The rev. gentleman resumed his seat amidst
many demonstrations of approval, mad after several other ad-
dresses the meeting separated.

SEIZURE OF A SUSPECTED SLAVER

BREMEN, MAY 10.—Yesterday the Bremen ship Julia St.
Edward, Captain R. Sidenborg, jun., was brought into the
Weser, under the care of a lieutenant of the English navy,
on the pretext alleged by an English cruiser, that it was to
be employed in the slave trade. This has caused a great
sensation here, because the detestation of that scandalous
traffic is here too general for any ship under the flag of
Bremen to engage in it directly or indirectly. The following
is a simple narrative of the affair :—When that ship sailed
from Rotterdam to the Havannah, there to obtain a freight
in preference for an European harbour, and if that could not
be had, to purchase goods on account of the owners, the
captain received through his correspondents, Messrs. Mooyer
and Co., in the Havannah, an offer from an American house
in that city of a freight to Cabenda, on the African coast,
with lawful merchandise, and having received the assurance
both of his correspondents and of the consular residents in
the Havannah that it was a perfectly honourable transaction;
he accepted the offer, as he had received at the same time the
offer of returned freight with salt to the West Indies, to re-
ceive which he was to sail from Cabenda in ballast. When
he arrived in the road of Cabenda, the ship was detained by
the English brig Persian, and though the examination, which
took place on board, showed nothing which could character-
ize the ship as suspicious, yet the young officer commanding
the English brig thought himself justified in ordering it to
the Weser, under such a pretext as the following :—That 200
demyohn (water bottles cased in straw-bands, a common ar-
tide of trade) were among the goods entered on the invoice ;
that the number of water-buts was too great, though there
were only twenty, the usual quantity on board the ship, the
contents of which would scarcely have sufficed for the use of
the crew during the long voyage ; and that it was possible
that some packages which he could not get at might contain
something suspicious. The owner of the ship has at once ap-
plied to the magistrate to have the whole, matter thoroughly
investigated, and both to do him justice, and at the same
time to clear the flag of Bremen from every suspicion, that
it could lend itself to the carrying on of a scandalous traffic.
—Hairib!‘rapaver, May 14.

A most effectual method. of cleansing public sewers was
last week put in practice by the board of health in White-
haven to a considerable extent. The instrument made use
of was one of the fire-engines, by which a copious supply of
water was driven through the gratings with such force as
completely to wash away the filth which had accumulated.

EXTRAORDINARY STORY.

(From the St. Louis Republican.)

We have never before had to record such a complication
of crimes in a single transaction as was presented to our ap-
palled citizens on the night of Saturday last. About oue
o'clock the alarm• of fire was given by the flames bursting
out of the windows and various parts of the large stone store
at the corner of Pine and Water-streets. At the time of the
discovery it was evident that the building had been fired in
several parts, and the flames had made such progress, that it
was impossible to save either the house or any of its contents.
" k of -•

uac it was the work of an incendiary was soon apparenk
Several gentlemen who arrived early after some difficulty

forced open the door of the bauking-house, and through
the smoke discovered a body lying on the floor near the
stove. The body was taken out before the flames had
reached it, and found to be that of Mr. James Weaver, a
young man, a clerk in the store of Messrs. Von Phul
and M‘Gill, who usually slept in the room immediately in
the rearof Mr. P.ettus's banking-room, with Mr. Jesse Baker,
the clerk of Messrs. Simonds and Morrison. Mr. Weaver was
found in the dress be had worn during the day, but his head
dreadfully mangled. He had been shot through the head,
the ball entering above the left eye, and so near had the wea-
pon been to him that his face and left band were blackened
with the powder, and the little finger nearly cut off, appa-
rently by the ball. His head was also cut open in several
places, the wounds appearing to have been made with a bowie
knife or hatchet. Near to him, in the same room, were found
the hat and handkerchief of Mr. Baker, but no traces of his
body could be discovered. It is conjectured that he had
been killed either in the bed-room or some other part of the
store, and that his body lies buried in the ruins. In the
banking-house there was a large fireproof vault, in which
there is at all times a large sum of money, and it is supposed
that the murder was committed with a view of entering the
vault. Mr. Baker left his boarding-house about nine for the
store, and has not been seen since. Mr. Weaver was in com-
pany with a number of young gentlemen until about eleven
o'clock, when he want to the store, and about the time he
arrived the reports of two pistols or guns were heard in that
direction by the people in the vicinity.
Some suppose the murderers had concealed themselves in
the store, and had previously despatched Baker, and killed
Weaver when he entered. Our own belief, from all the cir-
cumstances, is that they entered with Weaver, and that the
struggle and death of both followed immediately. After the
murder they doubless fired the house in several places, with
the hope of consuming the bodies and in the expectation that
their crime would not be discovered.
So far as there has been any means of judging, it is believed
that the murderers failed in their principal purpose—that of
entering the vault. Owing to the heat, up to a late hour
yesterday, the door could not be approached ; but when it
was it was found to be locked, and could not be unlocked.
The safe of Messrs. Simonds and Morrison, in which there
was some money, was undisturbed, and it was therefore pro-
bable that little booty was obtained. The loss, including the
goods and the building, may be set down at from 40.000 to
50,000 dollars.
From the house of Simonds' and Morrison the fire ex-
tended south to the adjoining builditig, occupied by Messrs.
Kennett, White, and Co., the roof of which was partially
consumed, and for a long time we thought it impossible to
save the building or the row, but by an exertion demanding
of all the highest praise, the house of Messrs. Kennett,
White, and Co. was saved with the loss of the roof only.
The goods in the store, however, were greatly damaged by
the water, and the stock was very large. The amount of
damage is variously estimated at from 10,000 dollars to
15.000 dollars, fully covered by insurance.
The store of Mr. Bernard Pratte, on the opposite side of
Pine-street, was several times on fire, and some of the win-
dow frames were considerably burnt, but by the exertions of
Oose within, and the aid of the engines, no injury was done
td the building, although Mr. Pratte's goods suffered consi-
derable injury from the water.
About the break of day the interior of the first building
having all fallen in, Mr. Kimball, first engineer of the Union
Fire Company, was standing on the side walk in Pine-street,
playing on the fire through a window, when the wall sud-
denly gave way, and fell outward into tie street. A gentle-
man with him made his escape, but Kimball was caught and
crushed beneath the falling mass. His remains in a few mi-
nutes were disinterred from the ruins, but the vital spark
had fled.
Mr. Weaver was a yoling man, about 22 years of age, of
excellent character, and had the entire confidence of his em-
ployers, and the esteem of all his acquaintances. His pa-
rents reside in the city.
Mr. Baker was a young gentleman of about 22 years of
age, the son of a respectable family residing in Worcester
county, Maire.
It would be impossible to describe the intense feeling
which pervaded the community during the night and eusuing
morning, and, in fact, the whole day. Every one was
shocked at the enormity and boldness of the deed, and. felt
that while such crimes could be committed in our midst and
the guilty escape detection, there was no security to any
one.
The city and country were patrolled during yesterday and
last night, and the citizens generally are using all the means
in their power to detect the guilty.