The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1841-07-16 00:00:00

TO CORRESPONDENTS

We have received a long letter from Mr. William Lee, of
Leeds, but its contents would not interest the public.
The space we have at command can be better occupied than
with any lengthened reply to the long and foolish article in
the Mail of yesterday. There is one remark, however.
which we cannot pass by. Thus speaks the Mail:—" Its,"
the STANDARD'S, " conductors know perfectly well that
the compliment was intended for the Mail, and that by an
error of the messenger alone was the request to send a
reporter to Knutsford communicated to the STANDARD."
The person who is here with such apparent sang froid
styled " messenger," is a highly-respectable and wealthy
gentleman, a member of the Conservative Committee for
North Cheshire, and has been a subscriber to the STAN-
DARD for a considerable length of time. The talk about
an " error" is therefore absurd. Well may the Mail ex-
claim, " let's have no more of this."

Ebe Zthrrpoot attanbarb.

FRIDAY MORNING, JULY 16, 1841.

The Liberals, seeing that the accession of the Con-
servatives to office is inevitable, try to console them-
selves with the conceit that Sir Robert Peel will not be
supported by them with that cordiality or unanimity
which is necessary to give stability to his government ;
but we expect that they will find themselves in error,
and that it was their wish only that was father to the
thought. We never recollect a time when there was
more sincere and complete unanimity amongst Con-
servatives than there is 4t this very moment, and for
this we must acknowledge ourselves in some degree
indebted—and, if we owe them nothing else, we must
confess this—to the present disgraced incapables—the
" shocking bad ministry"—of Lord Melbourne, Lord
J. Russell, and others. They have made us unani-
mous. With such a ministry, but "no government,"
before our eyes, we could not choose but be unani-
mous, and we are agreed as one man that the nation
will have a happy riddance of them. Nor is this all.
We compare Lord Melbourne with Sir Robert Peel,
and the Melbourne coterie with the probable colleagues
of the new Premier—our experience of the one with
our prospects under the other—we look " upon this
picture, and on this"—and our unanimity, so far from
being disturbed, rather increases in harmony and sweet-
ness—so that really all we have to fear is that so much
harmony without any discord, so much sweet without
any bitter, may require the introduction of some new
ingredient to prevent it cloying, and to give it brisk-
ness.

Our contemporary the Liverpool Times charges 'us

of the Liverpool Standard with an officious zeal .for
such we would it call it,. did really exist—an officious
zeal, we say, to introduce discord, or administer the
acid, among our brethren. " Our contemporary and
his clerical friends," he says, " are certainly on the
point of open rebellion against Sir Robert. It is quite
unnecessary for them to tell us that they do not sympa-
Uise with bins. That is as clear as daylight, and we
hope that it will soon be equally clear that he does not
sympathise with them."
Our clerical friendsand, we are happy to say, we
have many of that venerated order—know best whe-
ther they are on the point of open rebellion against
Sir Robert Peel, and can answer for themselves : for
ourselves we disclaim having ever given utterance to
such an insinuation, or having entered into such a con-
spiracy. And, speaking for ourselves, we say that we
earnestly and heartily desire to see Sir Robert Peel in
office,—not surely that he may be the mark for a re-
bellion, and that injury might thereby be done not only
to the. Conservative cause, but to the nation,—but that
his great talents, sound principles, and honest intents
may be employed in the most available way for the
service of both. It would be great presumption in us
to attempt to speak for the Clergy of Liverpool, or for
any portion of them, without their authority ; but, so
far as we know anything of their mind, we would ven-
ture to add that they concur with us entirely in this

sentiment.
Throughout the entire of the elections we have not
heard even of a whisper of dissent among Conserva-
tives. Radicalism challenged their condemnation, and
Conservatism their support—both in their substantials
and not in minor matters, and they acted broadly upon
well understood principles. They were quite of one
mind in their co-operation, and they are now about to
reap the fruits in a glOrioue. restoration and re-esta-
blishment of Conservative government. Is there any
any Conservative averse to the anticipation of Sir Ro-
bert Peel being at the head of a new administration ?
We do not believe that there is one—no, not a solitary
individual.

And now a word or two as to the occasion of which
our liberal contemporary has taken advantage to prefer
this ridiculous accusation against us. Having ad-
verted to the right honourable baronet's speech at
Tamworth, we took the liberty of stating one or two
points wherein we regretted that we could not coincide
with the right honourable gentleman. Does it follow
from this that we are on the point of rebellion, open or
covert, against his administration ? Is a slight diffe-

rence of opinion so construed among the Radicals ?
Amongst us it is quite allowed ;—hanc venianz damns,
petimusque vicissint. It would be very hard indeed if
we could not be deemed good supporters of a minister
unless we professed to agree with hini in every point of
his policy, past, present, or to come. Why, we gave
the Whigs credit for some things, and yet nobody im-
puted Whiggery to us, in general, on that account ;
and on the same ground we claim the honour of mov-
ing with the great Conservative body which recognises
Sir Robert Peel as its chief, and we assert its title to
the Characteristic of " unity," although there should
be subjects, at present happily not in question, or
such should hereafter arise, on which a difference of

opinion might exist.
Our liberal contemporary may derive comfort from
this avowal, and " look out for squalls ;" but we would
just tell him, that his anxiety to catch them will put us
on our guard, and most likely have a similar effect on
all who might feel inclined to press their own indivi-
dual opinions with an urgency capable of proving
in any degree injurious to the general interest.
In one particular our contemporary has conferred a
favour upon us : he has obliged us with an admirable
commentary and explanation of the phrase " moderate
opinions," made use of by Sir Robert Peel, and which
seemed to us to be a little obscure. He says :
"As for our contemporary's inability to comprehend what
is meant by " moderate opinions," if it is real, it only proves
how completely he has sacrificed his common sense to his
party. Under a constitution like that of England, into
which the monarchical, the aristocratic, and the democratic
principles all enter, but in which no one of them preponde-
rates, moderation in asserting the claims of all, without
pushing any of them to excess, is the greatest evidence which
can be afforded of practical wisdom."
We stand corrected. This is indeed admirable ; Sir
Robert Peel could. desire no more excellent exposition;
he could scarcely have done it better himself. If such
be the correct interpretation, we beg to recall all that
we have said, and to express ourselves perfectly satis-
fied. From such moderation as our contemporary
describes, and Sir R. Peel professes, who could pos-
sibly dissent ? "It is the greatest evidence," says our
contemporary, "of practical wisdom." And surely
we may well invite our contemporary himself to join
us in admiring, and at an hmmble distance in following,
that gifted statesman, who possesses to adopt it as his
principle—who so eminently professes it in the attri-
butes of his mind and character, and has long steadily
acted upon it, whether in or out of office. Our con_
temporary has done us a service by thus reducing the
exception taken by us to a mere verbal dispute. What
he calls moderate, we would call RIGHT ; that is the
only difference between us,—our meanings are the
same. We would say that the man who asserts "the
claims of the monarchical, the aristocratic, and the de-
mocratic principles of our nicely balanced constitution
without pushing any of them to excess," is not a mo-
derate man, but a man of the right sort— a wise man—
a judicious man—an unexceptionable politician. This is
just the kind of man we want; and now that we have
had this light thrown upon the subject, what remains
but that we should unreservedly desire the promotion
of Sir Robert Peel to the post he is so well qualified to
fill ? A moderate minister must be in this sense of the
term, a constitutional one, and we ask no more.

We return to Irish affairs. England, as we have
said, is deeply interested in the subject, and there can
be no better time for bestowing some thought upon it
than jist the present.
A London contemporary goes back upon the evi-
dence given before a Committee of the House of Com-
mons in 1835, and gleans therefrom a number of very
striking facts—(striking indeed in every sense of the
term)—relative to the intimidation and undue influence
used at the general elections in Ireland in 1832 and
1835, and concludes by saying, that bad as all these
were, they were not worse, as he apprehends, than
those which will have to be reported concerning this
present general election of 1841. We believe he will
prove but too correct in this conclusion. We have
never heard or read of any thing more savage and un-
civil than the election doings only just completed, or
still going on, at Cork, Waterford, Dublin, Clonmel,
Carlow, and other places. We have now before us se-
veral letters from different parts of Ireland, which give
afrightful picture of the brutal ferocity of the Popish
party, and of the abominable yet noon-day outrages
which they have committed, and are still committing,
on all who decline submission to their tyranny. Car-
low is at this moment not dike, but actually, a town
besieged. The different approaches are guarded by
artillery. It is held by troops amounting to two thou-
sand men, kept under arms, and on constant duty. It
was surrounded at one time by a multitude variously
armed, amounting, it was calculated, to at least sixty
thousand. Some of them attempted to force the passes,
but they retired upon the threat of being instantly fired
upon. The town is saved from sack and spoil only by
the great military force providentially collected upon
the snot; and in all sobriety of language and of thought,
we think we are authorised in calling this a state of
siege.

The merest passing stranger would be curious to
know what has caused all this, and whether the Queen
of England has no jurisdiction in this particular locality;
and surely Englishmen have much more reason to
search out the cause and feel concern about it. If Ire-
land were rightly governed, we ask, could such things
be ? Is not the fault to be traced to the government,
and the blame to be laid upon it? We say YES, and
that if Englishmen did their duty, they would not per-
mit it. Under this word "government," we would
certainly comprehend a, great deal—we would include
as well the laws by which the country is governed, as
the administrators and administration of them. With
this import of the term, we assert that there must be
something most defective and radically wrong in the
government of Ireland, when a general election produces
in that country such a warlike exhibition, and such
barbarous scenes as we have just had before our eyes.
The thing in itself is sufficiently bad; but it
is still
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worse as a .symptom—it is still more serious as the
token of a state of S oeiety entirely deranged. This is

an affair not of whlp►s or torien—not of mere sects or
parties, but of all order-loving Britons—and they ought
to take the matter up as such. As good conservatives,
we would particularly recommend the initiation of such
a step to the conservative party, in order that Sir R.
Peel may not he embarrassed by being abandoned as
it were Entirely to his own discretion, or unsupported
in his government of Ireland. Meetings ought to be
got up all over England, with a view to address the
Queen and both Houses of Parliament, praying simply
that such measures may be taken for the better rule
and government of Ireland as may prevent the recur-
rence of such dangerous, alarming, and violent pro-
ceedings as have lately occurred therein, and may tend
to give to that unhappy country a larger measure of
tranquillity and order than it has ever yet enjoyed.
The first inference necessarily to be drawn from the
state of things to which we have a dvertcd, is, that the
Irish Romanists are not in a state to be entrusted with
the privileges which they now possess ; or that there is
a tyranny beyond the laws, which it is the imperative
duty of the Queen's ministers to' put down. If it
should be thought that the former of these deductions
would lead to no practical conclusion, then let us at-
tend to the latter, which cannot be gainsayed by any

It is surely monstrous in a free country that a man
should have a franchise which he can only exercise at
the hazard of his life, and that an election for a mem-
ber of parliament should subject an portion of the in-
habitants to a reign of terror in which brute force is the
only efficient executive. What is the cause of these
outbreaks ? What conduces to thei n ? Who are the
leaders in them ? Now we want ito parliamentary
committee to answer these question s for us. It is
written in such legible characters, w3d posted on so
many crossroads and highways in Ireland, that he
that runs may read : it is given in tltese two words,

" Popery" and the " Priests." Popery stands in the
way of the people, and prevents them receiving in-
struction ; Popery interferes between Ithem, and those
who would be glad to serve and employ them ; Popery
keeps them ignorant, and miserable, and inflames all
their evil dispositions ; it makes them bad men and
bad subjects. Emancipate the people from Popery,
and you will make Ireland the finest country in the
world ; but if you cannot do that, libezmte them at least
from the physical tyranny—that imp eriurn in inzperio
which it has been too long permitted to exercise, and
in which it has been rather pampered than restrained
by the legitimate authorities of the stzle.
We shall be told, perhaps, that the trial has been
made, and did not succeed—that Popery was too strong,
and could not be put down. Our answer is, try it again
—ay, and again—yea, never give up--" NO SURREN-
DER." Pull out its teeth, and pare its nails ; tye up
.the monster. Send out all the Priests to Australia, and
put them under the care of that curious chap Macono-
chie, at Norfolk island. He will reform them when
every body else has given them up. What, is Irish
Popery to beard the British lion, and frighten him too?
We lose all patience with such stuff. And think not

that you will disoblige the great mass of the Irish
people. Be assured of it, that they will thank you
most gratefully for such a favour.' See how many Ro-
manists have stood true to Colonel Bruen—ay, at the
peril of their lives, and in defiance of all the surpliced
ruffians ! Think you that these men love the tyranny
of Priests and agitators ? Surely not. Therefore, we
say, put down the conspirators and their infamous
Directory of rebellion and blood, and you will confer
the greatest blessing upon the poor people, and they
will thank you cordially for it. We say in all serious-
ness and gravity, that we, the people of England, ought
to take up this business, and prosecute it as an affair
in which we have a large and substantial concern.

The return of two Conservatives for the City of
Waterford, is an unexpected gain from the sister isle ;
and we are informed by a correspondent in that city,
created a feeling of astonishment among the losing
party, perfectly ludicrous in itself, and highly amusing
to behold. The late members, Messrs. Wyse and
Barren, did not entertain the most remote idea of an
opposition on the very morning of election. No Con-
servative candidate had come forward, nor was the
name of any mentioned. So perfectly sure were• the
worthy ex's of being re-elected, as a matter of course,
that triumphal seats were prepared for their chairing,
the ribbons tried on, pretty devices arranged, and all
things in readiness to give due exaltation and honour
to the chosen representatives of Popery and Radical-
ism. A numerous assemblage of ladies elegantly
attired, and plentifully bedecked with ribbons of the
patriotic green, proceeded to the Court-house to hear
the speeches, to grace the ceremony, and be early in
congratulating the fortunate M.P.'s on being declared
" duly elected" without opposition. Some slight, some
very slight, low, and almost insignificant whisper had
certainly got afloat, that some malignant Tory or other
entertained a foolish design of giving a little momentary
annoyance ; but it had only the effect of making the
cortege of Messrs. Wyse and Barren the more nu-
merous, and of stimulating the ladies to put on a more
confident air, just as a few drops of rain, and a rather
suspicious-looking cloud will only cause them to screw
their pretty faces with a look of greater determination,
when they are perfectly resolved and all ready for a
trip to the races, or some other excursion, in which
their delicate persons, or superlative finery, may
possibly be in danger of sustaining injury. Well,
the two ex's were duly proposed and seconded—
in neat and appropriate speeches—and the com-
pany waited, just like an assembly collected around
that accomplished auctioneer, Mr. George Robins,
suspending their breath upon the tap of the estate-
giving hammer, there was a pause; the Wyses and
Barrons looked about—is it done ? said they. A gen-
tleman rose, and all that stirring affair which is now
matter of history ensued. Mr. Christmas, a gentleman
well known to all the inhabitants, was proposed and
seconded- Mr. Christmas was not in the city—not
in Ireland at the time, and knew nothing of it. Next
day, Mr. Reade, another gentleman equally well
known,—a Protestant and Conservative,—was put in
nomination—in his absence—and after a contest, the
particulars of which are given by the local papers, the
two Protestants and Conservatives were returned by a
very large majority ! Oh, wirrastrue, wirrastrue !
Whew—! whillaloo -- - ululatus. The howl now
set up, through the urbs intacta, we are told, was quite
terrific. The wise lord of the treasury never looked
so foolish in his life; and as to Barron, he was barren
indeed of every thing but an air of disconsolateness
and mercy. Poor man, labouring as he does under
a violent suspicion of debt, we wonder he did not go
out and hang himself. An old woman was seen at the
corner of one of the streets clapping her hands and
mourning most dolefully. What is the matter, my
good woman ? said a gentleman passing, oh sir, said
she, sure the Tories have bet the Christians—and is
not that too bad entirely ? As to the Catholic ladies
who attended at the court-house, we understand that
their extreme discomposure ever since this sudden and
sad event, this most unexpected and terrible catas-
trophe, has been so great as to cause a considerable
rise in the price of assa fetida, burnt feathers, and
smelling salts, in the good city of Waterford ; and as
to the name of " Christmas," it must ever hereafter
be unpleasant to their ears—so much so, that if any
body should be so unfortunate as to wish them a
merry" one, they will take it as a downright insult.

THE LATE CENSUS

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD,

believe there is a declaration in an old-fashioned
_forgotten book, that " the labourer is worthy
this be true, (and I really think it will not
he disputed') what must we think of the conduct of the au-
thorities, who, and osohwir nee.
after having enaged a number of individuals
to take the census, have to this very hour detained the money
due to them ? This is particularly hard, as most of the per-
sons employed were without work, and consequently in need
of all they could obtain. When they advertised for enume-
rators, why (lid they not honestly say that the money would
not be paid for a month or two? This would have been open
at least ; but on these terms they would have found very few
to engage themselves. It is really too bad to be put off week
after week, without any certain prospect of getting it at all,
little as it is. One of the enumerators, to my knowledge,
wrote to the General Registry Office, in London, but the
answer returned was, " he must apply to the Clerk of the
Peace here." He did so, and was.then informed that " the
Recorder was not in town, but when he came a special court
would be held." Is not this shameful! after the lapse of
nearly six weeks, and the official announcement of the census.
There requires a special court to pay a few poor men their
wages for services rendered !—lf you will notice this in your
paper, you will much oblige
ONE OF THE ENUMERATORS.
Liverpool, July 14th, 1841.

The Right Hon. T. P. Courteuay, the brother of the Earl
of Devon, was drowned on Thursday, in Torbay, while
bathing.