The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1841-09-10 00:00:00

VACANCY IN THE COMMITTEES

Mr. JOHN SMITH, in pursuance of a notice of motion to
that effect, proposed that Mr. Parker be elected a member of
the Watch, Lighting, Cleansing, and Fire Police Committee,
in the room of Mr. George Quayle, who had ceased to be a
member of the council. _ _ _ . . . .

Mr. KILSIIAW seconded the proposition.—Carried unani-
mously.

REMOAAL OF THE BRIDEWELL, &C

Mr. EVANS, in the absence of Mr. Aikin, moved that it be
referred to the Courts of Law Committee, to inquire into and
report upon the expediency of removing the Police Court, the
Court of Requests, and the Watch Committee Rooms, and
the main Bridewell, together with the offices connected there-
with respectively, from their present sites to the site of the
Islington Market, and land in Shaw's-brow adjacent to that
market, or to the site of the Old Infirmary, or part of the in-
tended new building thereon, or any new site ; and to inquire
and report whether the space required cannot be afforded in
such new buildings ; and also to inquire and report upon the
cost of the requisite erections and alterations, and the value
of the sites near the Town-hall, which, by such removal,
would be placed at the disposal of the Council.
Mr. EARLE seconded the motion; and after a few obser-
vations from Mr. Mellor, Mr. Freme, and Mr. G. Holt, it
was unanimously adopted. A special committee, consisting
of the members of the Courts of Law Committee, together
with Mr. Evans and Mr. Aikin, was then appointed to in-
quire and report upon the subject.
MR. QUAYLE'S PENALTY. _

The last motioliOnThe paper, of which notice had been
given by Mr. Aikin, was to the following effect :—" That the
sum of £5O, paid by Mr. Quayle, on his resignation, be re.
turned to him." _ . .

Mr. SHEIL, in order to save time, begged of the town-
clerk to state what was his view of the law of the case about
which they were then going to consider.
The Tows-CLERK said that his opinion, after mature con-
sideration, and after having mentioned the subject to several
barristers, was, as he had stated at the last council. that by
the act of resignation Mr. Quayle had become liable to pay
the £5O, which £5O he had paid to effect his object by the
resignation. The consequence of the resignation was, that
he was relieved from his duties as councillor, whether the
proceedings then pending ended in a judgment of ouster or
not. That relief he purchased by paying the penalty.
And though the party might not be entitled to the office
he held, yet if he were to do a act as if he were
so entitled; as in this case, the money cannot be returned.
The consequence was another election.: That he became
liable to pay the money was Perfectly ac,w, and it
was impossible to say it was money paid in error ; but
even if it were paid in error, he could not by law recover it
back again. With regard to the power of the council to take
into consideration the hardship of the case, they had no such
power. The moment the money had been paid, it was sub-
ject to obligatory engagement, for the benefit of the inhabi-
tants and the improvement of the borough. Therefore he was
decidedly of opinion that the money was properly paid, not
in any error ; that it was properly received by the council,
and that it cannot be properly returned. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. SHEIL said, that after the town-clerk's statement, and
seeing that the law was against it, he felt that he could not
divide the council on the subject, whatever his own private
views might be.
Mr. J. HoaNur here entered into a short explanation in
reference to a letter from Mr. Carson, which appeared in the
STANDARD, and some observations which fell from him at
the last council. After he had left the council on the last
day, he met Mr. Carson, and informed him of the substance
of what he had stated relative to Mr. Quayle in the council.
Mr. Carson accordingly went and published a letter, in which
he asserted that he (Mr. Hornby) had admitted, in the coun-
cil, that Mr. Quayle had submitted to the action. The words
were put in italics. It was not likely he had used them.
They did not appear in any of the published reports, and, in
a matter of the kind, he should rather rely upon the correct-
ness of the gentlemen of the press than his own memory.
Mr. Hornby proceeded to read an extract from a letter he
had,received from Mr. Quayle, and sat down assuring the
council that he had grounds for stating what he had done.
Mr. COOPER thought Mr. Shand had done his duty to the
public in bringing the action to an issue, and that the public
ought to feel indebted to him for the manly part he had acted.
Mr. EARLE was sorry that Mr. Birkett and Mr. Hodgson,
who had issued a state paper in the STANDARD, were absent.
He had beard of there being equity as well as law, and he
thought Mr. Quayle had been robbed of his £5O.
The TOWN-CLERK.—Law is equity
The council then separated.

CORRESPONDENCE.

AND REV. BAPTIST NOEL.
(No. 4.)
Liverpool, 9th September, 1811.
REVEREND SIR,—You state, on page 16 of your pato-
Ilet, that Ireland is likewise overstocked with labourers.

TO THE HON

I cannot admit this, for in that portion of the United King-
dom, out of 19,441,944 acres, there are 12,525,280 cultivated
acres, 2,500,000 acres UNCULTIVATED WASTES, CAPABLE

OF IMPROVEMENT, besides 2,416,664 acres barren and un-
profitable ; and I cannot conceive that a country is over-
stocked with labourers which has yet 6;016,660 acres—above
one-third of the country—uncultivated; particularly as it is
an ascertained fact, that nearly one-fourth of the country
yet uncultivated is capable of improvement. But to pass
on; your tract abounds in such statements and assertions as
the following :—" Why were the average annual exports to
" the whole of Europe, in the year ending 1836, less in value
" by nearly twenty per cent., than they were in the five years
" that followed the war ? Because we would not allow the
" continent to pay for our goods with corn. Why have we
" been exporting large quantities of iron, steel, coals, &c.. .

to enable them to Manufacture for 'themselves, &c

Because they could only pay for ours by their corn, and WE
would not permit them.'
Now, sir. 1 think one case clearly stated and proved would

be worth a thousand assertions; and it is raiher singular,
that this cannot be found throughout your treatise. Asser-
tions may be found in abundance, but proofs are things you
do not seem to indulge your readers with ; and although it is
an unfortunate fact, that many will believe all that is stated
by the Hon. and Rev. Baptist Noel, there are some who
would like to see each case cleared up before steaming on to
the next station. If you had kindly shown that the conti-
nent could supply us with all the corn we should require
from them, and at a lower price than we can grow it, and
also have proved that our commerce is restricted because we
do not barter for foreign corn, then your statements would
have been of some value ; and having proved this, I should
have been obliged to impose another and rather.a heavy task

upon yon. Taking a wide, expansive, and liberal view of
Christian philanthropy—a view suited to the present times
—why should we attempt to hinder, or retard the pro-
gress and improvement in foreign manufacturing ? If
it is a good thing for us, it is a good thing for them ;
and if it is good for them, it would be rather selfish of
us to put barriers in the way of our foreign neighbours
availing themselves of those advantages which we pos-
sess. Should not this wide view of Christian philan-
thropy make us desire to assist foreign countries in the im-
provement of their manufacturing interest, which we have
found so beneficial to ourselves ? I throw this out as a hint
for your future consideration. Your note at foot of page 19
has been so ably handled elsewhere, that I scarcely like to
touch upon it; but it merely requires quoting to spew its
absurdity :
" The trade in foreign corn would cause a demand for
English goods ; hence a new demand for raw materials,
which would be paid for in goods. Hence a number of new
ships, and new demand for timber, which likewise would he
paid for in goods, and require more ships. All this fresh
employment would enable the artisans to consume more tea,
sugar, &c., which would be paid for in more goods, and re-
quire more ships. Meanwhile there would be a demand for
new houses and warehouses, and therefore Ibr more timber
and more ships. On all which accounts, the increase of
employment would be great to many classes."

PRODIGIOUS !
You appear to have come to the conclusion that it would
be a most desirable thing to turn corn lands into pasturage ;
but how this can be the case I am again at a loss to know,'
for you do not here indulv.e your readers with any proof of
your position, although you do admit that pasturage will
require fewer labourers. If we require more corn, and corn-
growing employs more labourers than pasture lands, it seems
rather paradoxical that it should benefit the country to throw
land out of corn cultivation. That it would be beneficial to
cultivate our waste lands for pasturage, and so encourage the
farmer that he could turn more pasturage into corn lands, I
have no doubt ; and this is, I think, borne out by reason
and common sense.
I must defer a few remarks upon your view of adding to
the comforts of the poor, and providing employment for
of
their children, by an extension our manufacturing inte-
rest, until my next,- but I think my Lord Ashley would be
better able to enlighten your mind on this subject.
I beg to remain, rev. sir.
Your very obedient servant,
J. C.

TO THE EDITOR nic

ERPOOL STANDARD,

Sift,-,-.1. beg to draw your attention to the disgraceful
manner in which the mail-cart men drive through the
public streets ;—they go at a fearful pace, quite heedless of
the public safety
Thursday

PEDESTRIAN

NUISANCES IN THE PUBLIC STREETS

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOLSTANDARD

Sin,—ls it not abominable that the public streets are to
be rendered almost impassible, in consequence of outrageous
and disgusting pictures being exposed to public view, to
attract attention to exhibitions ? What can the authorities
be about to permit such unseemly pictures as those hung
outside a house in Leigh-street ?—and why are not the police
ordered to compel silly people to " move on," who block up
the way while idly standing to gaze at those monstrosities?
The neighbours are sadly annoyed.—l remain, &c.,

A WRIT'ECHAPEL RESIDENT.

POPERY IN IRELAND

We copy the following letter from the Dublin Statesman.
It exhibits a lamentable instance of the perversion of the in-
fluence possessed by the popish priests over their flocks.
Surely the persons who point attention to such facts as are
detailed in the subjoined statement ought not to be designated
"the calumniators of their Roman Catholic fellow-subjects."

There is a wide!difterenee between exposing the grinding

tyranny of Rome by legitimately proving instances of its
oppression, and " heaping terms of reproach and obloquy
on those who differ from• us." Our Protestant ministers
never do the one—O'Connell and the priests avowedly are
guilty of the other. Let the Protestant public reflect upon
the following cruel cases of persecution :

Glen Columbkill, September I, 1841.
SlR,—Being fully persuaded that it is the duty of every
one who wishes well to Ireland, to throw all the light he can
on the direful effects of the influence possessed, and so fre-
quently exercised, by the Roman Catholic priesthood, I beg
your insertion of the following simple statement of facts :
I have been upwards of four years rector of this parish,
and within that period there were four schoo!a, connected
with the London Hibernian Society, in active operation under
my superintendence ; in these about three hundred Roman
Catholic children were receiving literary and scriptural in-
struction. About two years ago the Rev. Chas. Ferry came
here as assistant to the parish priest, and very soon com-
menced a very active opposition against the schools. He has
at length succeeded in closing two of them, at which there
was an attendance of one hundred and forty children ; from
a third all the Roman Catholic children have been withrawn ,
to the number of eighty or ninety; at the fourth there may
be about fifty, to whom the Bible is a forbidden book : but
for the remaining two hundred and fifty children, formerly
receiving instruction, no provision whatsoever has been
made"! Last autumn two benevolent ladies, who were on a
visit to the parish, opened a school for Roman Catholic fe-
males, atj vhich they attended two or three days in the week,
until the lame priest issued his edict, and deprived these
young persons of the only opportunity they ever enjoyed of
learning even the plainest kind of needle-pork !
_

About two months since, Mr. Ferry heard of the news of
the Kerry reformation having been communicated to some
members of his dock ; and being of course greatly exasper-
ated that so much light should be let in upon their minds, he
wrote a very strangely-worded note to a Protestant, from
whom it was supposed the news had come, calling upon him
to " tell the truth respecting this fabrication," and saying—
(l give the extract verbatim et literatim)—" I would gladly
know, what county, city, barony, or parish, that these Roman
Catholics became Protestants.' A. day or two afterwards he
introduced himself to me, at a hotel, where we casually met ;
he mentioned to me the circumstance of his having written
to one of my hearers; and I then told him that I myself was
the publisher of the glad tidings from Kerry : he did not
venture to deny the truth of these tidings, but dropped the
subject at once. However, the Sunday after his return, he at
his altar introduced the subject again, rated his flock for
listening to such false reports, and spoke of his letter being
unanswered, and likely to remain so. On the following
Monday morning, I sent him a letter, containing a simple
statement of facts connected with Dingle, 'entry, and their
neighbourhood, mentioning the names of the local clergy, on
whose authority I stated these to be facts. I concluded my
letter with an appeal in these words—" I cannot conclude
without assuring you, as in the presence of God. I have not

•
an unkind feeling towards you; the principles and practices
of your church I hold to be unscriptural and anti-scriptural.
I would not wish to offend you. I have learned to respect
the hoary head; but I would he false to my God, did I not
take this opportunity of imploring you to ponder well upon
your present state ; you are now an old man, supporting a
system which cannot bear the light of God's word ; with a

vast multitude of immortal souls looking to you for bread—
and what are von giving them ? Alas! not 'the sincere milk
of the Word.' And oh, think of the sin of robbing the little
ones of their birthright—the precious Bible—setting up your
own word in opposition to that of the Saviour, who said—
' search the Scriptures.' That God may give you repentance
to the acknowledging of the truth, is the sincere prayer of
your faithful friend."
Thisletter•was received on Monday, the 12th of July, and
on Sunday, the Bth of August, after an absence from home,
the priest mentioned that he had received a letter from me,
but took special care not to read it, nor tell the contents of
it ; he then issued his edict, "that no one belonging to his
flock should work for Mr. Carre, on pain of being denied
the rites of the church !" This command has ever since
been strictly obeyed, not willingly I am sure, as, there being
only another gentleman in the parish to give any employ-
ment, the poor Roman Catholics were always thankful to
get work from me for themselves, their children and their
houses. One poor man, my tenant, who was bound by pro-

raise to cut my meadows, in payment of rent which fie.was

unable to pay In May last, entreated leave from the priest to
work for me, in fulfilment of his promise, but permission was
refused ! lam no sufferer by this un-Christian edict, as my
Protestant parishioners are determined, as far as in them
lies, to save my crops ; but I feel deeply for my poor Roman
neighbours, many of whom, I am sure need a shilling, and
cannot get it to earn, though willing to work. I cannot
blame them for obeying the priest's mandate, as I am fully
t.onvinurd, and fact. of dna y noon prong.,2 l❑ other paitts of un-
happy Ireland bear me out in my conviction, that if any one
dared to work for'ine, his life would be in danger.
Without making any further comment, but leaving this
unvarnished statement to tell upon the minds of the unpre-
judiced, and especially of those who sigh and cry for the
miseries of dear Ireland.
I remain, sir, very faithfully yours,
HENRY CARRE.
Rector of Glen-Columbkill.

ACCIDENT IN CDUACII-STREET. —On Wednesday last,
as one of the town cars was passing up Church-street, a
man who was crossing Parker-street, and did not see the
vehicle approaching, became entangled with it, and unfortu-
nately the wheel passed over and inflicted serious injury
upon him. The attention of the corporation has often been
called to the dangerous state of Parker. street, and it now
has become almost imperative upon them to make some
great improvement, especially as it is becoming one of the
greatest thoroughfares in the town.

THE CHANCELLORSHIP.—This is the third occasion that
Lord Lyndhurst has received the great seal from the hands
of his sovereign.
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Lord Lowther has been raised to the peerage by the title
of Baron Lowther, of Whitehaven.

We have great satisfaction in announcing that the Duchess
Bucctench has lately accepted the office of mistress of the
robes, lately held by the Duchess of Sutherland.

AN AUTHENTIC JOE MILLER.—As it' to redeem the ha-
bitual dulness of Joe Miller, one solitary joke of his stands
on respectable authority. Joe, sitting at the window, of the
Sun Tavern, in Clare-street, hile a tisliwornan was crying,
" Buy my soles! buy my maids ! " Exclaimed, "Ah ! you
wicked old creature ; are you not content to sell your own
soul, but you must sell your maid's too ! "-:-Bexttley's 2114-
cellany.

GOING!--Go to Newhaven—you can go for a shilling. Go
to Hartford—you can go for a dollar. Go to Albany—you
can go there, too, for a dollar. Go to Staten Island—you
can go there for six-pence, and get an excursion down the ba♦
into the bargin, and be brought home, too, if only you do
not go ashore. Go on the Fishing Banks—you can go and
be gone all day for a shilling, and be jammed halt to death
is the crowd. Go souiewhere—go everywhere—it's so very
cheap, Pray dont stay at home.—Anzercian paper.

The increase of letters passing the Ulverstone Postoffice,
on the last ten months, is nearly 800 weekly. The postage
on all the letters passing through this office amounts to more
than was produced under the old system.
Trade and land, said Mr. Child, one of our earliest politi-
cal economists, are knit each to other, and must whiz and
wane together ; so that it shall never be well with land but
trade must feel it, nor ill with trade but land must fall.

On Friday evening last the metropolis and the neighbour-
hood for miles around, was visited by a severe storm of
thunder and lightning,' accompanied by very heavy rain.
which lasted upwards of an hour. No serious damage was
done.
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SATISFACTION.—An Indian shoots his enemy from behind
a tree; a Turk will strike his handjar into the heart of his
foe while he slumbers ; and a South American Spaniard will
rip up on the spot the bowels of one who has insulted him ;
while an Englishman or a Frenchman calls out the man who
has cast a stain upon his honour, and running him through,
according to the rules of fence, or blowing out his brains at
the dropping of a handkerchief, walks away and calls this a
fair and open revenge—received the satisfaction of a gentle-
man.

THE NEW MINISTEX.-Mr. Emerson Tennent has been
appointed joint secretary of the Board of Control. Messrs.
Pringle and Gaskell, M.P., have been appointed Lords of
the Treasury ; and Captain Sir G. Seymour and the Hon.
Captain Gordon, Lords of the Admiralty. Sir E. Sugden
having declined the Lord Chancellorship of Ireland, it is be-
lieved that Mr. Penuefather will succeed Lord Campbell in
that high office. _ _ _

Prince's-square,
On Tuesday morning one of those explosions which fre-
quently take place at Lucifer match manufactories, occurred
at the manufactory of Mr. Hynains,
Lam-
beth. Upwards of one hundred men and boys were
flames. Soon
wasoon
em-
ployed in the factory, when suddenly a loud explosion
glen and the bri-
fs
fortunatelyEa prevented
heard, and immediately the whole place was indll
g afterwardsad4 were
otnh et
been
spot,gine s
,At,oa
andyf thethe NtNi'rees
from extending any further than the immediate
premises.
A rather amusing statement of the majority against mi-
nisters, on the recent division, appeared 1„ the third edition
of a York newspaper last Saturday evening. The result of
the debate had been printed on a slip of
upon a paragraph in one of the columns ofpaper, and pasted
the journal ; and
after duly announcing that the majority against ministers was
ninety-one, the next line stated that they were " to be im-
prisoned for twelve months."
IMPORTANT TO CORNFACTORS —lk
Ir. H. Deverill, corn-
factor, London-road, appeared -
town, before John Wells Esq.,at the police-office in this
. on Wednesday, to answer
a summons granted upon an information at the instance of
Mr. W. North, corn inspector, for not having made a return
of corn purchased by him in the week preceding the 24th
of July last, whereby
charge, cpenaltyharee nhfutl72aso was ineurred.r
rot
thtoe
he‘ undertook .
be guilty of such neglect again,b '•
dregret
an expressed his great
for the
omission,
the information was withdrawn on the
costs, 21s being paid.—Nottingham Journal.
Are you one of those who laugh at the thought that God
interferes in the affairs of nations ; and who think that no
notice is taken by Him of national transactions ? lam aware
that false philosophy sneers at the thought, and counts him a
madman who believes in divine superintendence. I cling to
the hope that you are not thus deluded. It is the belie' in
the non-accountability to God, which has led our
whig go-
vernors astray—it is the consequent national sins for which
we are now suffering. The punishment of nations for their
crimes must be in time, because, as natious, they will not
exist in eternity.—Fleet Papers.
FATAL OCCURRENCX.—On Tuesday night, about half-
past nine o'clock, two young men, named Patrick Carle and
Peter Burns, or Christie, both belonging to the William IV
of Drogheda, now in our harbout, being on deck a,. 111,
per, began, as some say, to teaze and pull one another
sup-
in diversion, others say they were lighting •
another about
however, both
fell overboard. Carle sunk instantly,l • .
w ide Burns
up by one of two boats that were on was picked
minute after the occurrence took place.the spot in loss than a
the surface.,--Ayr Advertises'. Carle
never l.c)i. to

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