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of trade than our noble representative. (Cheers.) Oh, but, ! House of Commons. (Hear, hear.) We all know when
said our antagonists, it is quite shocking that we should be they got into the House of Commons ; they congregated
represented by a lawer ! (Laughter.) How inconsistent ! themselves into small knots in opposition to the principles of
Here also he scrupled not to join issue. He was old enough ; the British co►istitution. (Bear.) Under these circum
to recollect their opponents bringing f
R,►scoe, a name which, notwithstandin

on and Mr: Cresswell, and let

nions, he (Mr. Holme) 'held in the greatest reverence. Al- the whiu,s see that they must be sunk, by the united voice of
though some might not feel as strongly as he did on this sub- this empire, once again into insignificance—(hear)—which
ject, he hesitated not to declare that he admired the eleganco their conduct upon all great state questions so justly merited.
of mind, and the benevolence of character of Mr. Roscoe. He had_great pleasure in proposing the motion.

. • •
He had found his name a passport in other countries, and Mr. JOSHUA EDWARDS seconded the motion.
just as Washington Irving thought it was something for an Sir THOMAS BRANCKER briefly returned thanks, and the
old Sexton to have seen the dust of Shaksueare, so did be meeting separated, having first given three hearty cheers for
(Mr. Holme) deem it something to be a fellow townsman of the cause of " Sandon and Cresswell."
the accomplished and benevolent Roscoe. (Hear.) But Mr.
• • - • 'l.
Roscoe in early life had been a lawyer, and he never heard

that that circumstance had been deemed a bar to his fitness MEETING OF THE TO XTE T H-P ARK
for representing a commercial community. (Cheers.) But CONSERVATIVES.

who brought Mr. Brougham to Liverpojol? ‘-ii.;l;The very
party who now taunt us with having elected Mr. Cresswell, Last evening, the spirited conservatives of Toxteth-park
and for ought he knew, more so (hear), and added to his held a meeting in the Toxteth-hall, Mill-street, for the pur-
rxmltifarious engagements ajoint editorship of the Edinburgh pose of adoptiAg measures to secure the return of Lord San-
Review. Yet this busy lawyer was deemed a fit and proper don and Mr. Cresswell. The hall was crowded to excess by
man to represent the mercantile interests of Liverpool. electors.
(Loud applause) And he had not yet done. Another In the absence of Mr. Duncan Gibb, chairman of the Tot-
learned and distinguished lawyer had been actually foisted on teth Conservative Association, Mr. THOMAS CHILTON, the
the town. Need he allude to that profound and learned gen- deputy chairman, was unanimously invited to preside.
tleman. the lofty flights of whose eloquence charms and de- Mr. ALEXANDER SMITH, jun., in moving the first resolu-
lights the senate?—(roars of laughter)—one who never lion, said, the occasion of the meeting was probably one of
speaks to empty benches, but at whose feet, as a Gamaliel, the most important which had ever occurred within the me-
ttle highest intellects are contented to sit to learn lessons of 'wiry of any man living. A general election was about to
political wisdom. (Continued laughter.) Why did they take place, upon the result of which would depend either the
laugh? Was not their late representative a barrister? Oh, ..-tenance of the constitution of this country or its entire de-
yes ! said their antagonists, but he never heiri • -

he could only reply:if such was the case, he was unfit to be i aaidaeireiration of, the world, and it had only been upheld by
our representative; for if he had possessed the ability to the veneration in which it was held by the people at large.
elevate him in his profession, some shrewd and sagacious Unhappily during the last few years we had had an adusinis-
luwer would have discovered his talent. (Applause.) Let tration which had frittered away to a certain extent that glo-
those then taunt us with inconsistency who are consistent rious constitution, and who now, for the sole purpose of
themselves. Experience of the world shows us that those maintaining themselves in power, and receiving their guar-
who are the readiest to taunt others with their want of terly allowances, were bartering in and parting with it in tole.
consistency, are generally themselves deficient of that very (Hear, hear.) And if the electors allowed them to proceed
virtue. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) He wished not to in the course they seemed to have entered upon, goodness
say anything hard of Sir J. Walmsley; but that gentleman only knew where we should be in a few years ;—(hear,)—his
had issued an address in which he declared his attachment own opinion was, that in place of the ancient constitution of
of the Established Church, and he put it to any man to say queen, lords and commons,weshould have anarchy.confusion,
how much he would give for the real attachment of any gen- and republicanism. (Hear.) Now, then, came the question
tlemen, or for his consistency, who was found at church on who the electors would support as candidates for the repre-
the Sunday, and on the Monday was organising a Protector sentation of Liverpool at the ensuing election. They had
Society for the purpose of swamping the votes of the consti- before them Lord Sandon and Mr. Cresswell, Lord Palmer-
tuency, that society being composed of men who were de- stem and Sir Joshua Walmsley. They knew Lord Sandon
termined, if possible, to destroy the very church of which Sir well ; his lordship had been tried, and had been found a
Joshua professed himself a member. (Loud cheering.) Re- steady supporter of the constitution, and a most excellent
membering the admonition of the chairman, lie would soon friend to the entire community of Liverpool. He (Mr.
conclude. But he begged to say one word on the corn ques- Smith) defied any man in the town, whatever his politics
time (Hear.) He had had a ponderous tome lent him on might be, to say otherwise than that Lord Sandon had made
the subject of its repeal. and he had waded through it, to- a most admirable representative. As that was the case why
gether with various works on the other side He declared should they desire to change? Let well alone. What more
that after dewing so he was almost where he commenced. It could be required? Why bring down Lord Palmerston, for
was a grave and important question, one involving too many what more could he do than Lord Sandon ? It was, how-
complicated interests to be understood, without much coils- ever unnecessary for him to enlarge upon Lord Sandon's
teral information, takinginto consideration the nature of our merits, for they were well known, and he must not omit to
various commercial treaties, and our present state of society. say that the freemen knew him to be their friend. (Loud
(Hear, hear.) But this much we had no difficulty in under- cheers.) Mr. Cresswell had served the borough of Liver-
standing, that cheap bread meant low wages—(loud and long- pool for several years ;he was a man of a most liberal educe-
continued cheering); and that if the corn laws were repealed tion ; he stood exceedingly high in his profession, and if we '
to-morrow, unless the raw material, such as the wool, the looked over the division lists of the House of Commons it
cotton, and the silk, could be cheapened—the only mode in would be found that he had always been at his post. Charges
which we must compete with other nations must be by re- had been urged against him of not attending to his
clueing the wages of the artisan, and so injuring our home duties, but they were utterly false and had only been
market. He could speak on this subject without prejudice, brought forward by men who had sinister objects in
for he did not possess one inch of agricultural land, and pro- view. There was not one single individual in Liverpool
bably never should ; but he warner l the working classes not who having occasion for them had not promptly
to be led away by hired and itinerating agitators, for a ques- received them, whether in the House of Commons, the
tion so complicated as this, could not be fully comprehended Treasury, the Board of Trade, or wherever they were
by listening to the orators of Clayton-square (hear), who ap- wanted ; and certainly the hon. and learned gentleman was
pealed only to the passions of the people. He cautioned as able and as willing to defend the cause of the interests of
them against the political demagogues who were spreading Liverpool as Sir Joshua Walmsley. (Cries of "He is and
dissatisfaction throughout the country, and, like Jack Cade more," with loud cheers.) Mr. Cresswell moreover was a
of old, were promising them seven halfpenny loaves for a man who loved justice. (Hear, hear.) He brought forward
penny (laughter), who declared that the three-hooped pot a motion touching the Danish claims—claims which govern-
should have ten hoops, that it should be felony to drink small ment tried to keep quietly hung up or smoothed down
beer, that all should be in common, and all wear one livery, during the session, but Mr. Cresswell would not allow
which he presumed was to be theliveryofvvhiggism. (Cheers.) them ; he fought the battle of the unfortunate individuals,
Mr. Holme then proceeded to eulogise Mr. Cresswell for his sufferers in the cause, and he had succeeded. (Cheers.) A
ability, mentioning the high opinion formed of him in Lon- committee was appointed which decided in his favour, that
don and elsewhere, and added that he had that day seen a government was bound to pay £250,000 to our unfortunate
placard on the walls, containing the startling words, " San- countrymen, who otherwise would have been defrauded of
don and Cresswell must walk !"They would walk, he had that amount. Ile first defeat sustained by the government
no doubt ; but it would be by the free and spontaneous voices in the present session was upon this very motion of Mr.
of the electors of Liverpool, and it would be victorious, into Cresswell for the appointment of a committee ; and the last
the House of Commons as the members for Liverpool; and defeat too, by the bye, for they opposed the report of
Lord Palmerston, if he showed face, might walk to the place the committee, but were beaten again. (Hear, hear.) The
from which he came (Cheers.) He trusted also that there next candidate before the electors was Lord Palmerston, who
was loyalty enough in this town, and sufficient attachment to had been in every administration for the last 20 or 23 years.
the blessings and principles of the British constitution, to He (Mr. Smith) should have thought that a quarter of a cen-
send Sir Joshua Walmsley into private life, which he had tury s official service, under five or six different political par-
pleasure in adding, he adorned; and he said, he hoped in a ties, enough for any man ; but it so happened that his lord-
kindly spirit, that it would have been better for the peace ship's conscience and his politics had both been exceedingly
and comfort of that gentleman, and he might add for the pliant. (Hear and cheers.) He had been trying to ascertain
peace of his native town, if he had never emerged from it to why the liberals should have hit upon the expedient of pro-
offer himself as a candidate for the representation of Liver- posing Lord Palmerston, and he could account for it only by
pool. Mr. Holme concluded by proposing the fourth reso- supposing that they had applied to a variety of individuals,
lution, and sat down amidst protracted cheering. not one of whom was willing to come to Liverpool to be
JAMES ASPINALL, Esq., briefly seconded the resolution, I thrashed; and therefore they, shooting at a high mark, went
but in consequence of severe cold and hoarseness we were to the foreign secretary. They knew very well that it would
unable to collect the few observations which fell from him. not be considered derogatory to the character of Lnrd Pal-
Mr. ROBERTSON GLADSTONE said he felt confident that, merston if he would not issue an address, and refuse to solicit
in proposing the next resolution, the nomination of the com- the electors' votes ; therefore they said. "we will put him
mittee, a few remarks only would be expected from him. up, and that will, at any rate, have one good effect. There
He might, however, be permitted to state, that the result of were an immense number of leading whigs, in the town, de-
the election—the return of both our esteemed and highly- cidedly opposed to Sir Joshua Walmsley, and who would not
talented representatives—deeply important as that object move one peg to further his cause. But, then, money was
was in itself—must also be viewed in the still more im- necessary. Sir Joshua Walmsley's friends felt that this could
portant light of tending to depose from the situations they only be got by placing Lord Palmerston, though a phantom
held, a ministry, who had proved by their conduct that they and a shadow, before the public, by which means many would
were as incapable to carry on the government of the coon- be deluded into paying their subscriptions of £5O or £lOO,
try, as they were reckless and unprincipled in the defence of in the vain hope of returning him. " And," thought Sir
its interests. Though defeat met them in every direction, Joshua Walmsley, " this will save my pocket." (Hear,
both within the House of Commons and without, yet, in the hear.) The next candidate was our townsman—upon which
face of the country having declared by its representatives he presumed a great deal—Sir Joshua Walmsley • and the
that they did net possess its confidence, and were unable to electors had to consider what Sir Joshua Walmsley's pre-
conduct the management of its affairs, they have retained tensions were to the representation of the borough of Liver-
offiee, and venture to appeal to the country, in the belief pool. All knew him. As a private individual he was a
that their conduct will have its approval. It is for us, gen- respectable, and, to a certain extent, an esteemed man ; but
tlemen, to show how far we value or condemn their conduct, it was one thing to respect a man as a private individual,
which, whether viewed in its religious, political, or social and another to support him as a candidate for the represen-
character, can only meet from the sincere well-wisher to his tation of such a borough as this in parliament. (Hear.) He
country with an open and unqualified condemnation. (Loud was all very well in his place at the watch committee, in
cheers.) Mr. Gladstone then read the list of the committee, the town council, and upon other hoards at which ke chose
consisting of about 150 names of the most influential and to serve, and he was considered rather an efficient member
respectable inhabitants of the town, and said that, large as of the Corn Exchange. He had been a good broker, he had
that list was, many names no doubt were not included, of done business very well, and had feathered his nest pretty
equal respectability, for which the committee had power to well under the existing corn-laws. Mr. Smith then pro-
add to their numbers. ceeded to comment upon the knight's address, and to expose
Mr. W. P. BUSIIDT seconded the motion, and it was car- the manner in which the signatures to the requisition therein
rigid amidst loud cheers. alluded to had been obtained. Sir Joshua Walmsley was a
Mr. SHEPPARD moved a vote of thanks to Sir T. Brancker very ambitious man ' • and was anxious for the situation of a
for his conduct in the chair. Here the meeting had a good .• whipper-in" of his party in the house —an office for
old conservative knight opposed in a certain degree to a whig- which he was probably well qualified, seeing that he
radical knight among us, in endeavouring to secure the re- had been brought up an usher in a school. (Hear, bear.)
turn of Lord Sandon and Mr. Cresswell. (Cheers.) It He professed himself a supporter of the church, and a great
might be necessary to call attention, as an Irishman, to the friend of the poor man ; but how could that profession be
whig mis-rule of Ireland. They said that their conduct was reconciled with the fact of his having been the main instru-
beyond all praise, and they took great credit to themselves ment of establishing in Liverpool the " Precursor Society,"
for the impartial line of conduct they had pursued from the for the express purpose of opposing everything connected
year 1830 to 1841, now he (Mr. Sheppard) wished to remind with the church. The sooner the church got rid of such
the meeting of the state of the county of Kilkenny two years supporters the better. (Cheers.) Let her have an out-
after they came into p,Aver—it never was in such a disturbed and-out opponent rather than a fellow who professed himself
state—and who was the man he would ask that had brought her friend, yet by every act proved himself her enemy.
it into such a state of quietness? (Hear, hear.) It was a Sir Joshua Walmsley calculated upon getting a great number
late chief secretary for Ireland ;it was Lord Stanley. (Loud of votes Irons the circumstance of his having joined various
cheers.) Was the conduct of the whigs then fair or right ? clubs. This was a fact which his friends confidently asserted.
(Hear.) Look at the treatment which the Irish landlords For this purpose it was that he had become a Forester, a
had received under their misrule. They were falling every Freemason, and an Oddfellow. (Hear.) An odd fellow he
day, and still they were told that Ireland was peaceable and undoubtedly was. (Laughter.) He (Mr. Smith) had stated
quiet, for the county of Tipperary never was in such a dis- that Sir Joshua Walmsley professed himself a friend to the
turbed state as it was now. The whigs then said, " But you poor man. Now he (Mr. Smith) had in his possession a letter
will not support the men who have said that your country- from one of those unfortunate sufferers, a few years ago, by
men were a set of savages ?" All he (Mr. Sheppard) could the attempt successfully made to reduce the wages of the
say was, that this expression had been often remarked upon ; corn porters. Their wages were reduced somewhat consider-
but he wished to call the attention of the meeting to the fact ably. The corn porters wished to be put upon the same
that a late Roman catholic bishop, Dr. Doyle, in speaking footing, :
with regard to wages, as other porters, but this was
with regard to the conduct of the Irish about the time to opposed by some, and by none in the trade more strenuously
which he had alluded, stated the following facts before ever than Sir Joshua Walmsley. (Hear.) The argument he
a single expression of the sort had escaped from lips of the used in support of the reduction was this—that he could send
members of the conservative party. Mr. Sheppard then read over to Ireland and get men to work for him from there at
the late Roman catholic bishop Doyle's character of the is 6d or 2s a day. (Hear, hear.) Let the meeting mark
Irish, addressed to the whitefeet, in a pastoral letter, dated that. The wages of agricultural labourers in Ireland did
December 3d, 1831, as follows : not on the average exceed 10d a day ; Sir Joshua knew this,
" Cowardly, base, wicked, ungrateful men, what have you and no doubt thought that earning only 10d a day in their
done ? You have commenced by an unlawful and impious own country, they would be willing to come to him for is 6d
oath, in which you called the God of Holiness to witness or 2s a day. (Hear, hear, and loud cheers.) Mr. Smith
your crime. You enlarged your combination by force and then commented on the fact of Sir Joshua Walmsley
violence. You confirmed it by drunkenness and violence on having been the principal means of introducing the new poor
the Lord's day. As you advanced, you made war like the law here, and at considerable length explained how a repeal
savage of the desert upon your next neighbour, if not of your of the corn laws would lower the price of labour. He con-
own tribe. You polluted the fair and market-place by savage eluded a most effective speech by expressing a hope that the
warfare; or, like Cain, `you went into the field to spill the feeling exhibited in the meeting would animate the constitu-
blood of your defenceless and unsuspecting brother. You ency on the day of trial, and that all electors would join heart
plundered the houses where you could meet with no resist- and hand in returning by a triumphant majority Lord San-
ance—you fled from him you most feared and hatred—you don and Mr. Cresswell.
wreaked your vengeance on the industrious man who sup- r. TIDM AN, in seconding the motion, exposed the reek-
plied you with bread, and fed the poor out of his substance. less extravagance of the present administration in the nma-
If you found a man straying in the fields or travelling on the nagement of the finances of the country.—Time resolution was
highroad unarmed and defenceless, him did you murder or then carried.
assassinate. These are your deeds--this is the reward of Mr. SHEPPARD moved the second resolution ittran able
your crimes, which will one day be tried by the Judge of address. It was seconded by Mr. HALL, and unanimously
earth and heaven." carried.
Now, he would ask, had any expressions ever emanated from Mr. HORSFALL, in proposing the third resolution, con-
the conservatives half so strong as these ? (Hear, hear.) tended that Lord Sandon had been a better representative of
He asked Lord Morpeth, as chief secretary for Ireland, and Liverpool than either Mr. Canning or Mr. Huskisson. Al-
Lord Melbourne, at the head of her Majesty's government, luding to the corn laws he shewed by a reference to the fixed
to read the letter of the lord lieutenant of the county of prices of cotton wool, that manufactured goods could not be
Tipperary, published only the other day, in which he de- produced cheaper than they were at present, unless a reduc-
scribed life rued property to be absolutely insecure in that tion took place in the price of labour ; and that a repeal of
county. ' (Hear.) Why ? From whig-radical misrule and those laws would, by throwing an immense extent of land
mismanagement, and from Mr. Daniel O'Connell being al-, out of cultivation, deprive two millions of agricultural la-
lowed to agitate for a repeal of the union. (Great applause.) bourers of employment, whose competition would also fur-
Nay, he (Mr. O'Connell) had turned the other day in the ther decrease wages in the manufacturing districts:
House of Commons and taunted Sir R. Peel with, " Oh, The resolution was then carried.
you support the orangemen." He would ask in reply, was The meeting was afterwards addressed by Mr. HArtnonn,
Mr. O'Connell never called before the House of Commons, Mr. o
.....11ARLES SMITH, and Dr. HARDORD ; and all the
and did not the House of Commons, upon the motion of resolutions having been adopted, it separated amongst enthu-
Lord Maidstone, pass a resolution condemning his conduct siastic cheers at the prospects of conservative success at the
as most improper ?" (Cheers.) He asked time meeting not forthcoming election
to believe Mr. O'Connell's representations, for there were
hundreds of thousands of Irishmen who would support the
institutions of the country, who would risk their fortunes for
them, and who, though he hoped the time would never ar-
rive when they must stand upon the treshold of the institu-
tion, rather than snbmit to innovations upon it, would sacri-
fice their very existence to the good of their Queen and
country. (Great cheering.) There had been a great deal of
discussion upon the question of the corn laws, (hear, hear),
and the meeting had had his opinions upon that subject in
the papers of to-day. He could not do better, therefore,
than quote the language of Sir Robert Peel, in answer to one
of the members for Manchester, he believed, last year. Sir
Robert Peel said—

FlRE.—Friday morning, between one and two o'clock, a
fire was discovered in one of the sheds on the Duke of Bridge-
water's wharf, Wapping, occupied as a ship-store and sail-
maker's work-shop by Mr. Southern. Four engines, accom-
panied by water-carts and a strong body of the tire brigade,
under the active superintendence of Mr. Hewitt, were speed-
ily on the spot, and having a good supply of water, the fire
was soon got under. At one time it had an alarming appear-
ance, owing to the goods being of a combustible nature.
Neither the stock nor premises were insured.
THE STEAMER SEEN AT SEA.—In our last we felt it our
duty to give publicity to a communication from Bristol, an-

" That manufacture is on the brink of ruin ; anc
fessed that the statement was important, for so convinced
was he of the natural union between the prosperity of trade
and agriculture, and of the strength of the reaction which
would take place on the one if the other were injured, that if
he
would believe the correctness of those statements, they
would form in his mind a most powerful argument for a
change of the law. But with all his respect for the know-
ledge of the hon. gentleman, he would wish that his state-
ments had been fortified by proof. What faith could he at-
tach to the hon. gentleman's predictions as a prophet, when
he had before him the most authentic statements on the
subject? He would read an extract from those papers. From
them he found that in the year 1837, when the price of
corn was low in this country, the amount of British com-
merce manufactured here.and sent abroad was £36,280,000,
In the year 1838, when the price of corn had risen, and
when, according to the arguments of lion. gentlemen on the
opposite side, the dearness of corn ought to have depressed
our manufactures, the quantity of manufactured articles ex-
ported £43,000,000. No doubt it would be said that these
exports consisted chiefly of cotton yarn, or such articles
which would only prove the manufacturing prosperity of
foreign nations, but such was not the case, as would be found
by a more minute detail of them. In 1837, the export of
our woollen manufactures had amounted to £4.660,000 ; in
1838, it amounted to £5,799,000. Our export of silk manu-
facture in 1837, £303,000 ; in 1838, £713,000. The e.port
of our hardware and cutlery, had amounted in 183/, to
£1,460,000; in 1838. to .£1,597,009- Dar exports...ofcotton
in 1837, had amounted to 05,925.0 W; 1838, to 44,493,000.
Of cotton manufacture, exclusive of yarn, into which, of
course, manual labour entered, there had been exported, in
1837, to the amount of £1,304,000; in 1838, to £1,617,000. i
Of linen manufacture there had been exported, n 1837,
£2,919,000. As Englishmen, he (Mr. Sheppard) called the
serious attention of the meeting to these facts, and to the
facts published in the papers by the conservative party. De-
pend upon it that the cry on this question was got up for the
purpose of claptrap—(hear. hear)—with the view of advanc-
ing the interest of Whig-radicals, and seating them in the

be con-

pouncing that on Tuesday last, Captain Bnrgess, of the
Osprey steamer, from Waterford to Bristol, perceived at a
distance of four-and-a-half miles, a large crippled steamer,
which he took from her appearance to be the President, and
so reported, in a letter addressed by him to the owners of
that vessel. The intelligence caused considerable sensation
in Bristol, and expresses were instantly sent to London, and
accounts published in the morning papers which raised a
hope there that the vessel seen mightfbe the ill-fated Presi-
dent. On Thursday evening, the subject was mentioned in
the house of Lords, when Lord Minto, first lord of the ad-
miralty, though he did not believe the strange sail was the
President, yet said orders should be transmitted forthwith
to the admiral commanding at Plymouth, to dispatch a steam-
ship in search of the " immense crippled steamer" seen by
the Osprey. In Liverpool, after the painful disappoint-
ments which previous reports of the safety of the Presi-
dent had caused, no reliance was placed on the supposition
that the vessel seen in the channel might be her ; though it
was admitted the description came nearer the appearance of
the President than any previously given of vessels seen at
sea and supposed to have been her. Ail uncertainty was
,-ever, removed on Saturda ,h,

y morning, by the arrival pert
of the Birmingham, Captain Church, from Dublin. On the
previous night, shortly after ten o'clock, when off the Sker-
ries, Captain Church caught sight of the Manchester, (one
of the two steamers built at Hamburgh, and as we stated on
Friday, on her way, to this port to receive her engines,)
the appearance of which being rather singular, he steered
toe :ids and spoke her, when he ascertained what she was,
and where from. By the delay caused by this deviation out
of the direct path, he lost his tide into Liverpool ; but he
deserves great praise for having approached a strange and
singular-looking sail, which he supposed, no doubt, if not
the President, WAS some steamer-looking vessel in distress.
The Manchester now lies in the Trafalgar Dock. She is a
handsome vessel, but is not larger than the largest sized
channel steamers, and how an experienced eye, at a distance
of four or five miles only, could take her for a steams of
" inlmense size is really surprising.