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ce of Postmaster-General,—in reply to that question, he was
enabled to state that the commissioners had decided upon re-
commending a change to that effect; but the government had
deferred taking that point into consideration until further evi-
dence should be laid before tie commissioners on this subject,
which was now under their examination, and until they were
enabled to take a fairer and more comprehensive view of the
whole subject. With rektrd to the second question, as to
whether it was likely that a report would soon be laid before the
house from the commissioners with respect to the Postoffice
packet department, he begged in reply to say that he hoped in
the course of three weeks to be able to lay before the house a
full and ample report with regard to all the Postoffice packet
stations. Under these circumstances, he conceived that he
should best discharge his duty by abstaining from saying any-
thing with respect to the reports in the newspapers, to which
the hon. member had alluded, until the whole question came
before the house, as to the general state of the Postoffire packet
department. (Hear.)
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.

The house having gone into committee, Mr. HOME produced
some merriment, by asking what the salaries of a certain num-
ber of deer keepers amounted to, and what they did for their
money? Fle wanted to know also whether these deer keepers
had any and what fees for killing deer, and what became of the
venison ?
Mr. R. GORDON replied, thatmost official gentlemen declined
to accept these deers as the fees for killing them was more than
they were worth. They could, indeed, buy their venison
cheaper than they could kill it. (Laughter.) After some fur-
ther talk on this subject the house resumed.

THE: ORANGE SYSTEM IN IRELAND.
Mr. FINN brought this subject under the consideration of the
house, and concluded a rather lengthy speech by moving the
following resolution.:—" That -orangeism had been productive
Of the most baneful effects upon the character and administra-
tion of public justice inireland ; that its prevalence in the con-
stabulary and peace preservation force, and yeomanry corps of
that country, has led indiVidual members, as well as large bodies
of the above description of force, to the gross neglect and vio-
lation of the public duty, and to the open, daring, and lawless
resistance to the authority or the magistracy and Of the execu-
tive government, on various occasions; that the systematic and
surreptitious introduction. of.orangeism into every branch of the
military service, into aluaost every part of the empire, in direct
violation of orders issued in 1622 and 1829 by the commander-
in-chief of his Maj esty's forces, and the resolute power and con-
trout vested by its governing bodies, the grand orange lodge of
England and of Ireland, in his !Oval Highness the Duke of
Cumberland, "together with the rank, station, influence, and
numbers of that formidable and secret conspiracy, are well cal-
culated to excite serious apprehensions in all his Majesty's loyal
subjects, and imperatively call for the most energetic expres-
, Oen on,the.part,o,f.* reprssentatives of the people- of this ein,
, pire to secure the safe", the peaceable, the legal, and rightful
succession to the throne of these realms."
Mr. E. BDLWER seconded the motion.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL Moved that the debate be adjourned tcr
, the 23d instant, which was carried.

ORANGE LODGES IN THE ARMY.
Mr. Hurau having been informed some time ago that half-
pay officers were not held amenable to courts martial, wanted
to know, as his majesty had the power to make rules and regu-
lations for the discipline of the army, how it was that the Duke
of Cumberland was allowed to set the rules and discipline ofthe
army at defiance. An order had been issued by the commander
of the forces prohibiting any officer from being a member of
any orange lodge, but that order had been totally disregarded
by the royal personage to whom he had alluded. 11Iany officers
on half-pay had been removed from the army without any cause
assigned.. He concluded by moving for a return of all officers
not on full pay dismissed from his majesty's service since the
year 1815, together with the alleged reasons for their dismissal.
Lord How rex objected to giving more than the names of the
Officers dismissed, as giving the reasons would be an interfer-
ence with the prerogatives of the crown, which had the power of
dismissing any officer without giving any reason whatever. It
Would also be, in some instances, an aggravation of the punish-
ment to have the causes brought forward after a lapse of twenty
years.
The return was ordered, with the reasons.
RAILWAYS.
Mr. HARVEY moved for the appointment of a select com-
rnittee, to which all railway bills, having a termination within
seven miles of the Royal Exchange, should be referred; but it
was withdrawn, on the understanding thatfor this session a sug-
ttestion heretofore made by Mr. Goulburn should be adopted.
The suggestion was, that where several railways were projected
they should be referred to one committee to determine the best
li
Lord J. RUSSELL moved for leave to bring in bills for the
registration of births, deaths, and marriages, and to amend the
law regarding the celebration of marriage. As to the registra-
tion he did not go into full details—he-left them to the bill;
but on the subject of the marriage ceremony, he proposed that
there should be no alteration regarding those who were con-
nected with the established church—that dissenters should have
the opportunity of, being married
.in their own places of wor-
ship, and as to those who viewed marriage as a civil contract
they could be married after entering their names fora certain num-
ber of days in a prescribed register, to be certified by certificate.
The bill Would provide for a general registration of marriages,
and details the sums for entering names, examining registers,
&c. As to burials he had no plan at present on the subject, but
he hoped to produce a measure that would give general satis-
faction, and enable dissenters to have their deceased brethren
buried in the grounds attached to their own chapels. With
respect to degrees at the universities their was no prospect of
getting Oxford or Cambridge to concede degrees to dissenters ;
but the Chancellor of the Exchequer was preparing a bill for a
university that would concede degrees, and which it was hoped
would remove the just complaints of dissenters.
Sir R. Paul., said if the dissenters were satisfied he should
not complain ; but if this bill
be gave satisfaction, then he should
astonished, that this measure had not been approved.
Mr. BanING said that the right hon. baronet's bill was good,
but this was much better,. it removed the greatest objections.
Mr. O'CONNELL and others having expressed approbationl
Mr. Gouts URN said, whatever passed now, he did not wish
to be precluded from hereafter taking that course which he
Might think right.
Lord J. RussELL expreiged his satisfaction at the manner. in
Which his motion bad beem*:caceived _and
_said that it did riot
rleterioratedUttied ben;litiirtitiet`a
Sirß. Picas. hoped that 1441 wouldnot preclude dissenters
from being married in the 11414A/shod church itthey sepleased.
Motion agreed to.
Dr. Bow RING gave notice that Mr. Hume would,' on ,Mon-
day, bring forward the subject of the assessed taxes, and sur-
charges on them.
Mr. EWART brought up the prisoners' counsel bill which was
read a first time.