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room in their company, but I did not remain for a minute.
I left them in the room with Mr. Clegg and a nephew of
my own. Mr. Clegg told me to take care of the door,
and not to admit any person. He told my nephew he
was to call over the names of the electors with the post-
men. I heard him do so, but I did not assist in examining
any letters before I left the place. Mr. Healing was in the
room at the time; he passed me and went in whilst I was
watching at the door. I tried to prevent him going in,
but he told me he was one of the committee, and
therefore insisted upon being admitted. They were
together in the room for about a quarter of an hour.
Another person was to take charge of the door, and I was
to go into another room. This was a Monday evening.
They were there in the morning. I examined a few of
the letters in the evening. I had not the letters in my
possession, T called over the names. The postman had
a bundle of letters, and he called the names of the parties
to whom they were addressed ; and during that time I
examined the list, told him whether they were voters or
not. Mr. Clegg was not present. There were only the
postman and myself present. Mr. Clegg directed me to
do this. The postman marked some of the letters with
pencil. I told the postman, when be mentioned a name,
that he was or was not a voter, according to the fact ; and,
therefore. if he was a voter, the letter was marked with the
pencil. I was to say which side the party was to vote
for: the postman marked according to what I said. I
could not see what the marks were ; he put a cross on
those who were for Cardwell and Ewart. In Scotland
Ward there was a ward committee before the election,
but we sent very seldom. When the parliamentary con-
test was commenced there were persons on the committee
who were not on the municipal committee. Parties
not the same for parliamentary as for municipal
elections ; the municipal elections are not looked upon
as political. I can't say whether the central committee
was the same, or whether the numbers were increased.
I saw, among others, Mr. Edmund Molyneux, Mr.
NV. B. Jones, and Mr. Jonas Gleave, at the Central
Committee-rooms. I saw Jones there once or twice. I
cannot undertake to say who went there most frequently.
I have seen Mr. William Rowett more than once, and
Mr. L. Peel more than once. I have seen Mr. Thomas-
Bold more than once. Mr. J. S. Leigh I saw once there.
Mr. N. D. Bold I saw once there ; Mr. Peacock more
than once, and also Mr. H. Bremner. Mr. Moss, the
banker—l saw him once there. Mr. Robert Woodward,
Mr. A. Henderson, Mr. E. G. Deane, Mr. G. H. Hors-
fall, Mr. J. A. Tobin, Mr. William Fisher, of Redcross-
street, Mr. Thomas Inman, Mr. P. B. Drinkwater, Mr.
Nicholson, Mr. Hatch, Mr. J. B. Cooper, Mr. Watson,
and Mr. Clegg, I have also seen there. I. did not see Mr.
Wm. Lowe, Mr. Thos. Harrison, or Mr. Wm. 'Nicholson
there. A Mr. Nicholson I did see there. I have seen
the persons named already go into the room while the,
committee was sitting, and come out afterwards. I know
a Mr. Thos. Williams, secretary to the Vauxhall Ward.
He was in the ward as canvasser, and I don't know he
did not act as secretary. I can't say that Mr. Williams
is the collector to the Conservative Association, but he
has some situation there. 1 never saw Wiliiams pay or
receive money. The Vauxhall Ward Committee met
in a public-house in Great Howard-street, kept by
Sylvester Matheson. I never saw a placard outside that
house. I never saw the committee of Vauxhall ward at
that house. I never received any money myself at Moss's
bank. I don't recollect that Mr. Buckmaster received
any. I never heard Mr. Bremner say anything to Mr.
Buckmaster about wanting money. I do not recollect
seeing Mackenzie or Turner at the central committee-
room : I have seen them in St. John's Market with
Jones Gleave. I did not see Mr. Peacock there.

Examined by Mr. RODWELL : The time I saw the can-
didates in the market-place there was a crowd after
them. Besides those I have named, as having been
present at the central committee-room, there were many
others. I was formerly collector for the Conservative
Association, and many of those gentlemen 'Thom I named
were members of the Conservative Association, and their
room was given at election times to the party. These
gentlemen often did not stay more than two or five
minutes. Many were there who were not members of
the Conservative Association. I know notices of com-
mittee meetings were given to me to be filled up. I should
say those summonses were for the general coin mitee. Those
gentlemen were the persons whom I sometimes saw drop
into these rooms. I never saw anything further than the
date at the top, and the circulars. As to the letter-carriers,
the names were Adler and James Graham. They came in
sometimes to get the number of the houses. I never gave
them the number of the houses. What I did with the
postman lasted for about two minutes. I saw him mark
about two. The number of names I called over might be
twelve. I believe Adler and Graham are here. Another
man who was in charge of another room was present, and
also my nephew. Mr. Healing, a pawnbroker, was like-
wise present. Whatever was done in the room, Clegg
was not there. Clegg just came into the room, and then
went out again. Only one of the postmen that I saw
marked the letters. Graham was the man who called
over to me the direction of the letters. I went to Wat-
son, and got the employment from him—at least he sent
me to the Constitutional Association. I took the papers to
his private house. He has been since, I believe, a clerk
for Horsfall, and he was not there during the election.
If I said so, I stated what was wrong.
By Mr. BODKIN: I did not see the postmen come into
the house. I showed them into the room. I had seen
them there in the morning. Clegg said I was to go and
attend to those men—to call over the letters with them.
Two or three of them were employed.
By Mr. FRESHFIELD : When I filled up the notices I
did not know whether they were summonses for the gene-
ral or any other committee.
By the CHAIRMAN I should say parties not members
of the committee-room would have been freely admitted
to the committee-room at any time.
William Walthew (examined by Mr. PAGET) deposed
that he was a nephew of the last witness. I was engaged
by the chairman of the Vauxhall Ward to assist my uncle
at the election. I was employed at Pyecroft's, but I was
employed at no other place. My business was confined
to the Wheat Sheaf. I was employed about four or five
days. I was there a few mornings previous to the elec-
tion. I recollect the postman coming into the room ; that
was on the day previous to the nomination—on the Mon-
day. It was between nine and eleven o'clock, and I was
in the committee-room at the time he came. One man
brought the letters in. When the postman came in, I
had to refer to the ward-book. Mr. Clegg desired me to
refer to it. He did not tell me for what purpose it was
to be done. The postman looked at the letters. I think
at that time there was no one present but the postman,Mr.
Clegg, and myself. The postman produced the letters,
and called out the names, and a cross was marked on some
of them. We were to see in the ward-hook whether the
name were " for," or " against," or " doubtful." Just
as I called out, he marked them. Those at which I said
" for" were not marked at all. Accordingly as I called
out "doubtful," or "for," or " against," he marked or
did not mark the letters. I recollected the same
afternoon the postman coming again. There was a
committee meeting ; the members were addressing the
voters between six and eight. Messrs. Mackenzie and
Turner were addressing them at Mr. Pyecroft's, in
another room. At that time there was not a meeting of
the committee. I recollect at that time the postman
coming with the afternoon delivery, he came to the com-
mittee-room on the left. Two men came with the let-
ters. Only myself and two postmen were present in
the room. When the postman came into the room in
the evening I was not aware that they were coming. They
were ushered in while I was alone, and the door was
locked by some person in the inside. The same tran-
spired again that had occurred in the morning, the letters
being marked in the same manner. Mr. Healing, one of
the committee, came in with two other parties whom
did not know, and remained about five or ten minutes.
The postmen had drink—one of ale and one of spirits.
I ordered it, Clegg haring directed me to call for some-
thing to drink. I might know some of the names on
those letters if they /were mentioned to me—not other-
wise. I recollect the name of " William Stamp." lam
sure of it. I know Stamp personally. He is an ac-
quaintance of mine. This examination of the letters took-
place on the evening previous to the nomination day. I
did not touch one of the letters. I could not tell whe-
ther they contained cards or not.
Cross-examined : We might call over thirty letters in
the morning, and perhaps a hundred in the evening. I
can't tell how many were marked : I don't recollect those
that were " for " were not marked ; those " against " or
" doubtful" were both marked. I did not recollect the
name of Stamp until it was suggested to me. I did not
see any of the addresses read out to me. The letters
were not confined to me in my ward, and I had to refer
to other than the mere ward lists. Stamp was against us:
I knew at the time this man was down on the printed list
to which I referred. Stamp was not on the ward list. I
knew Stamp was against us directly the name was called by
the postman. All the letters were taken away. I did not
know the calling over was to take place that afternoon ;
it took me by surprise. When they were ushered in, I
knew what to do. I had been told before, but did not
know at what moment they might make their appearance.
I did not know in the morning. My uncle was there, but I
don't know for how long. He was there half an hour, 1
should think. I can't tell exactly, however. He was
writing there for a short time while the letters were being
called over. Two voters came in, and we left off reading
the letters. Whilst Healine was there, we also left off
reading. lam now a book-keeper, and in the employ-
ment of Mr. M'Gregor.
By the CHAIRMAN : I should think seven out of nine
of the letters were marked.

By Mr. BALL : While Healing and the two others
were, in the letters were put upon a table.
The Committee broke up at a quarter to four, Mr.
Bodkin stating his intention to re-examine the witness.
The Committee meets this day, (Tuesday,) at eleven
o'clock.
The following is the supplemental list of persons al-
leged to have been bribed, and by whom alleged to have
been bribed :

NAME. BY WHOM.
Abraham, Thomas Jonasy:im GBleume•ke,
L?Edwardoyd,
Edward Smith
Williams, Solomon W. May,
Wm. Musker, Thos. Riding,
Thos. Swettenham, Wm. Law-
ton, William Smith, George
Sandford Russell, Jas. Ather-
ton, and John Henry Francis
Curchod.

BPoirsttileest:m3noisteep,
Joseph
Robert...
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Booth, John.
Chatterton, Henry
Coulson, Henry, jun ...
Dickenson, Peter .
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Fletcher, Edwd. Pemberton
Foy, Thomas ..............
Cladding, Edward
Horrocks,
Lyon, Edmund
W ashington, William
Orme, Samuel
Daniel, Thomas
Davies, Thomas
Scott, George
Smalley, Joseph
Williams, Robert

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THE PRINCESS RoYAL.—According to a rumour in
circulation at Vienna, Prince Wi,liarn Frederick of Prus-
sia, the King's nephew and presualptive heir, is soon to
be affianced to Princess Victoria of Englrnd. The tender
age of the Princess (13 next November) renders this some-
what impossible.