The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1840-09-25 00:00:00

MEETING OF THE DOCK COMMITTEE.

The weekly meeting of the Dock Committee was held yes-
terday. The following members were present :—Messrs.
Leathom, Benn, Barclay, Thos. Holt, Holmes Middleton,
Horsfall, Miller, Bulley, Ripley, Chapman, ivans, Tobin,
Moon, and Martin.
The proceedings of the last meeting were confirmed, and
the accounts of the week passed.
The SURVEYOR submitted an estimate of the cost of
placing reverse gates between Union and Coburg Docks.
The cost, with the sill of the same depth as at present, would
be £6265, and the time required to complete the work would
be ten months ; if the committee wished the gates to be
4ft. Gin. below the sill of the old dock, the cost would be
£9754, and it would take sixteen months to complete the
work.
Mr. HORSFALL asked the Surveyor whether he meant
sixteen months' interruption to the working of Coburg Dock,
or whether he meant to make a coffer-dam ?
The SURVEYOR said he meant to make a coffer-dam.
Mr. HORSFALL asked whether the Coburg Dock was now
deepened to the level of the sill ?
The SURVEYOR replied that it was, and that there was now
plenty of water for the largest vessels.
Mr. HORSFALL enquired how much more water there was
now than when the President was supposed to have taken the
ground ?
The SURVEYOR replied, about 2ft. 4in. At a 9-feet tide
there would now be 17ft. water in the dock. He denied that
the President had been aground.
Mr. HORSFALL.—WouId she have floated with the pre-
sent water?
The SURVEYOR.—Yes.
Mr. HORSFALL.—Suppose reverse gates are fixed, how
much more water can you preserve in the dock?
The'SURVEYOR.—We can keep the level of the tide in,
but no more. A great deal depends upon the discretion of
the dock-master. With reverse gates we shall always main-
tain 17ft. water.
The CHAIRMAN said the question was whether the sill be-
tween the two docks should be deepened, or whether they
should put down reverse gates without lowering the sill.
Mr. HORSFALL.—DO you mean that the simple deepening
of the sill will cost £9OOO, and the placing of the reverse gates
only £6000?
The SURVEYOR.—Yes : it will be a tedious process, and
we shall have to put down a powerful engine, which will re-
quire some time.
Mr. CHAPMAN had given a good deal of attefition to this
subject, and the question, he should say, was whether the
committee should incommode the trade of the Queen's Dock
for 10 or 16 months at so much outlay. Having 16 to 17
feet water at neap tides in Coburg Dock, was not that as
much as steam proprietors could expect. He thought that
the committee, in having spent £40,000 upon the Coburg
Dock, had spent enough for the accommodation of one trade.
Besides, the Halifax boats did not take so much water as the
President, and they could much easier go in the river to take
in coals than in dock.
The CHAIRMAN thought Mr. Chapman was under a mis-
take when he spoke about the accommodation of one trade.
The expenditure he described was not for one trade only, but
for the purposes of general trade.
Mr. HORSFALL said Mr. Chapman had misunderstood Mr.
Hartley. Mr. Hartley said there would be 17 feet water only
when the reverse gates were put down.
The SURVEYOR.—Yes.
Mr. CHAPMAN admitted that he had been mistaken.
Mr. HORSFALL contended that the inconvenience during
the progress of the proposed work could not be great. The
expense was certainly serious ; but the inconvenience would
be trifling.
Mr. CHAPMAN said, when he looked, at the last committee,
at the enormous expences of the docks, he thought this mat-
ter ought to be postponed for further consideration ; the de-
lay of a month or so could not make much difference in the
end, and at the same time it would enable the committee to
make themselves better acquainted with the whole subject.
Mr. HORSFALL quite agreed with Mr. Chapman that it
would be wise to defer the consideration of this question. It
was a matter of serious moment, and should be most carefully

considered.
The further consideration of the subject was then postponed.
The SURVEYOR submitted an estimate of the expense of
erecting shears upon the east quay of Union Dock. It would
be about £3lO. A long desultory discussion upon the ques-
tion, whether shears should be erected, then took place be-
tween Mr. Chapman, Mr. Horsfall, and Mr. Tobin. Even-
tually the subject was referred to a sub-committee.
A letter was read from the assistant-surveyor of Toxteth-
park, stating that the surveyors of that township had no ob-
jection to the improvement proposed to be made by the
committee in Sefton-street.
An application from one-of the steam-packet companies for
permission to board up a portion of the shed on the south-
east quay of Clarence-dock was then re-considered. The
conversation like those on many other subjects, was carried
on in a tone too low to enable us to hear it ; but we under-
stood Mr. Bulley, as the chairman of a sub-committee, to
report that there would be no objection to complying with
the application on certain conditions.—Application granted.
The SURVEYOR wished for the instructions of the com-
mittee to put the stages on the dock quays under the charge
of the several dock masters. It was stated, that these stages
were always lying about, without being considered in the
charge of any one. A resolution was passed to the effect that
the masters of the several docks be held responsible for the
removal and safe custody of the stages.
The NORTH HARBOUR MASTER requested permission to
place an additional buoy in George's and Prince's Basin.
His letter stated that if another buoy were placed as he sug-
gested no inconvenience would be caused to the working of
ships in and out of the docks, and that the bridges would not
be kept open so long as at present. The subject was referred
to a sub-committee.

A letter was read from Jane Nichols and her husband,
keepers of the Bidston telegraph station, stating, that in
consequence of ill health, arising from excessive labour, they
were compelled to resign, and requesting some donation in
consideration of their family having been upwards of half a
century in the service of the committee. A short discussion
followed, in the course of which the Chairman stated that
the labour of the station was very severe; and Mr. Ripley
mentioned that this was one of the stations which the sub-
committee on telegraphs had not visited. It was ultimately
decided that assistance should be rendered to the applicants,
and further enquiry made.

The Keeper'of the Crosby Lighthouse complained, in a
letter, that if the committee continued to charge him rent
for the land he occupied, or declined to build him a stable
and car• house, he must resign. It appeared that the rent
was only £B, and the salary of the situation was £BO, whilst
the salaries of the keepers of other lighthouses was only from
£4O to £5O. The chairman added, that he feared the man
was not as steady as he might be. The resignation was ac-
cepted.
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On the application of the widow of the late Edward Tyrell,
a superintendent in the police, the arrears of rent (four
months) for the south station-house, was granted on her im-
mediately giving up possession of the premises.
The SECRETARY read a letter from Messrs. John Winder
and Co , written under the following circumstances. A ves-
sel was lately sunk near Beaumaris, and a person (whose
name we did not hear) applied to the committee for the loan
of their diving apparatus, to assist in raising it. Messrs.
Winder and Co. having become sureties for the safe return
of the apparatus, it was lent. This person it appeared had
subsequently hired a flat. The owners of the flat, not being
able to obtain the hire, seized the diving apparatus. The
present application was to request the committee to inter-
fere with the party who had seized the apparatus. The
secretary said the solicitor was of opinion that the committee
could not recognise any party in the transaction but Messrs.
Winder, as they were responsible.—Referred to the solicitor.
Mr. RIPLEY mentioned that the committee had a lease of
the Great Ormeshead telegraph station from the Woods and
Forests, but he understood that the land was the property of
the Bishop of Bangor. The committee was therefore liable
to be turned out of possession any moment. He believed,
however, that a lease might be obtained from the bishop.—
Referred to the solicitor.
The consideration of the surveyor's annual re port was
postponed till the next meeting.
Mr. EVANS moved, according to notice, " that a sub-
committee be appointed with instructions, with the assistance
of the solicitor, to prepare a bill, having for its object the
construction of a new dock or docks, and warehouses upon
the dock quays, with such regulations or improvements as
may be conducive to the efficient working of the docks, and
the good management of the dock estate." It was not
necessary for him to enter into the merits of the question,
and therefore he should merely move the re-appointment of
the sub-committee of last year—namely, Messrs. Leathom,
Benn, Horefall, George Holt, and Evans.
Mr. BARCLAY seconded the motion.
Mr. HORSFALL said the only objection he had to the com-
mittee was the fact that his name was upon it. He should
be glad if any gentleman would take his place ; but at the
same time he entertained the same opinions now as he did
when the bill was originated, of the importance and necessity
of it.

The CHAIRMAN and Mr. EVANS said Mr. Horsfall's name
could not be withdrawn.

Mr. SMITH moved, as an amendment, that the words re-
lating to the erection of warehouses upon the dock quays, be
left out of the resolution.
Mr. TOBIN seconded the amendment.
A division took place, when there appeared—For the
amendment, 3; against it, 13; majority, 10.
Mr. CH APM AN, in reference to the contract for oil, read a
letter from a gentleman of scientific pursuits, named Taylor,
with the object of shewing that the experiments adopted by
the committee for ascertaining the quality of the several
samples of oil, were not decisive tests of their quality. The
letter was referred to the sub-committee, the chairman and
deputy-chairman in the mean time to decide upon which
tender should be accepted.
Messrs. Evans, Horsfall, Chapman, Mellor, and Ripley,
were appointed a sub-committee to consider and report upon
Mr. Gage's plans for the proposed new dock, by which he
says he could afford more water and quay room than will be
afforded by Mr. Hartley, and an equal amount of warehouse
accommodation. The first meeting of the sub-committee
will be held on Saturday (to-morrow). The meeting then
separated.

THE ANNUAL EXHIBITION OF PAINTINGS.—The annual
exhibition of paintings in Postoffice-place, nothwithstanding
the inclemency of the weather, has been visited by very
numerous parties of ladies and gentlemen, who are unanimous
in their praise of the collection. We regret that we are
obliged to defer until Tuesday next the first of our series of
notices of the various works of art which the rooms contain.

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LAIDLAW'S MOVING PANORAMA.—This truly interest-
ing exhibition is still as attractive as ever ; and is daily fre-
quented by numerous parties, all of whom seem highly de-
lighted with its well-executed scenes. The view of Gibraltar
is, at the present moment, an object of very great interest,
owing to the probability that its strength as a fortification
may again soon be tested, in the event of a war with France.
This painting struck us as peculiarly well designed and beau-
tifully finished.

EVERTON AND KIRKDALE FLORAL AND HORTICULTU-
RAL SOCIETY.—Next Monday this society will hold its third
exhibition for the present year, in the gardens attached to the
house of Mr. New, at Kirkdale. A marquee will be erected
as usual, in the vacant space at the north-east corner of the
grounds. The show of Flora will be but confined as regards
species,
• though abundant in quantity and beautiful in ap-
pearance. We have hopes that, notwithstanding the very
'Unfavourable state of the weather, the show of dahlias will be
good. The prizes for this favourite are numerous, and the
regulations such as to induce vigorous competition. We are
in hopes also of seeing a fine display of fruits and vegetables.
Should the day prove propitious, a fashionable attendance may
be anticipated.

MR. HOLDEN'S LECTURES ON ASTRONOMY.—The very
interesting series of lectures on astronomy, delivered at the
Liver Theatre, by our old and respected friend Mr. Holden,
have attracted very numerous and highly respectable
audiences. The pupils from most of the boarding schools in
town have been gratified with a view of Mr. Holden's
beautiful illustrations of this sublime science. The last
lecture of the second series will be given this evening ; and
on Monday evening next, and the two following evenings,
he will deliver a course of lectures on optics. We have no
doubt that these lectures will also prove a source of great
attraction.

Dr. Timmon was on Wednesday last elected one of the
honorary physicians to the Liverpool dispensaries. The
number of votes recorded was 361, of which Dr. Timmon ob-
tained 244.

CURE OF SQUINTING.—On Tuesday morning, forty-three
persons submitted to the operation at the Derby Infirmary,
in addition to those we mentioned last week, for the cure of
squinting. This defect will soon be rare in the neighbour-
hood : persons are to be seen in every part of the town with
a bandage over one of their eyes, who have undergone the
operation.—Derby Reporter.

WARD MEETINGS

NORTH AND SOUTH TOXTETH.
A numerous and highly-respectable meeting of the electors
of the North and South Toxteth Wards was held at Mrs.
Powell's spacious room, Jackson-street, on Wednesday
evening, to nominate candidates, and to make such other
necessary arrangements, on the conservative side, as would
secure their return at the approaching election of members
to the Town Council.
The chair was occupied by Afr. DUNCAN GIBIL who, in
opening the proceedings, spoke as follows :—Gentlemen, you
are so well aware of the purpose for which we are assembled
this evening, that it is unnecessary fir me to detain you in
going into it at any length; but I should wish to observe,
for the guidance of those who may be desirous of recorn-
*lending or nominating any candidate, that it be expressly
understood by them that they must lave obtained the con-
sent of any one whom they are about to propose, because a
regulation of that kind will save a great deal of turmoil and
confusion in our arrangements afterwards. It is for you to
suggest, to nominate, and to recommend whom you think
fit. You are aware of the necessity of having upright arid
proper men to represent you in the Town-council, and it is
unnecessary for me to tell you that ye have arrived at that
time when it becomes incumbent on you to make a bold
struggle. (Cheers.) In fact, it is like do or die in the mat-
ter. No half-measures ought any longer to be depended on ;
and, for my own part, I can only my, that I am willing to
act in conjunction with you, as well is to render such assist-
ance with my purse towards the legal expenses of the contest
as shall be fair and reasonable. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. HORSFALL then rose and said:—l have great pleasure
in proposing the following resolution :—" That John Shep.
pard, Esq., is, in the opinion of this meeting, a fit and pro-
per person to be put in nomaintion as candidate for South Tox-
teth Ward (No. 15) at the ensuing municipal election." I
feel, he continued, that Mr. Sheppari is so well known to all
present that very few words will be necessary to recommend
him to the attention of the electors. He is a man eminently
qualified, and perhaps, without meaning to cast any dis-
paragement on others, as fit, if not the fittest man to repre-
sent South Toxteth Ward in the Common-council. (Hear
and cheers.) He is a man of independent property—was a
county magistrate in Ireland—is not fettered from discharging
his duty by any business, and we know, from what we have
seen of him, that he will be diligent in his attention to our
municipal affairs. (Loud cheering.) lam sorry to say, many
of our conservative members do not gve that attendance in
the Council that we had reason to expect, but I aril quite
certain Mr. Sheppard will act differently. I know not that
I have anything further to say than that he is a true conser-
vative, and not afraid to face his ojponents—that he will
stand firmly by our venerable institutions, and support the
church and state in all their original purity and integrity.
(Loud cheers.) We cannot disguise from ourselves the fact
that the Town Council is a political body, though they only
profess to regulate our municipal affairs ' • and, viewing the
body in this light, I feel bold wear that Mr. Sheppard is a
man strongly attached to the church—that he will use his
utmost exertions to support her—that he will endeavour to
rectify her proved abuses, and, therefore, that he is extremely
well qualified to represent this ward in the council. With
these few remarks, I beg to propose the resolution. (Loud
cheers.)
Mr. THOMAS HUNTINGDON seconded the first resolution,
which was put from the chair and carried unanimously.
Mr. ALEXANDER SMITH, Jun. said—Since entering the
room, a resolution has been placed in my hands, which I shall
have great pleasure in moving, but before doing so, I would
make a few observations on some circumstances that occurred
since the last annual contest in these wards. (Hear, hear.)
I have been connected with our municipal elections for a
long time—indeed since the commencement, and I never
met before so numerous or respectable an assemblage as I
have the pleasure of seeing here to-night, and this is a con-
vincing proof to me that the efforts made within the last
twelve months, to raise the conservative spirit of these wards,
have not been used in vain. (Cheers.) We have now the
satisfaction of seeing hundreds of electors present, not only
anxious to take part in the 'proceedings of the evening, but
to record their votes also in favour of the candidate to be
proposed on this occasion. (Hear.) I assure you that it is
a most gratifying sight to me, and to those who have been in
the habit of acting with me, to find so many assembled here,
all united, I believe, in one common feeling of regard and
esteem, for the constitution under which we live, and which
we have been endeavouring to maintain for years past. A
fearful struggle we have had. (Hear, hear.) We found,
when the municipal act was first passed, that the flood broke
in on us in such a way as that persons were returned to the
town-council possessed of nothing like religion, having no
regard for monarchical government, or any other thing which
we reverence and esteem ; but I firmly believe that the en-
suing election—that which is shortly to take place—will
prove, to the community, that a different spirit now pervades
the town ; for numbers have come forward and enrolled
themselves as electors, determined not to suffer such pro-
ceedings again to take place—proceedings which have dis-
graced us in the eyes of the empire for years past. (Hear.)
We have had persons who have been literally thrust down
our throats—men with whom we have had no connection,
and who have had no common interest with us,; and some
have been brought forward as town-councillors, and others,
who have been rejected by the electors, have been brought
forward as aldermen ;—so that the qualification of an alder-
man appears to have been, that he was discarded by the
electors, and that they refused to return him. (Hear, hear.)
But now a great struggle is about to take place. The oppo-
site party have been using every means in their power to
intimidate the electors, and to secure to themselves a
majority in the town-council, but their efforts will be frus-
trated. (Cheers.) We have known men, who were members
of the town-council, and members of the Dock Committee,
and members also of the Market Committee, going round,
and not soliciting, but absolutely demanding, the votes of the
persons over whom they thought they had influence. (Loud
cries of " Shame.") I dare say there are persons now pre-
sent who were so circumstanced, and who remember a
gentleman, whom Isaac Holmes knows very well—(hear, and
a laugh)—saying, that he was a member of this, that, and the
other committee, and absolutely demanding that the persons
engaged in the different departments in some measure under
his contruul, should vote for this, that, and the other indi-
vidual. lam happy to know that there are not many who
would be dictated to in that way, arid I am sure such a spirit
will be evinced to a greater degree at the present time. I
think the period is not very distant when our party will have
the ascendancy in the town-council, in spite of the ma-
noeures and efforts made use of to keep us out. (Cheers.)
You are aware that very many important measures will have
to be brought forward during the ensuing year. During the
last session of parliament bills were obtained for making,
within our ward, two very extensive docki, the Hercula-
neum Dock and the Harrington Dock. These are points to
which I shall take the liberty of calling your attention, be-
cause, if anything can conduce to our prosperity, it is the
erection of these docks in our immediate neighbourhood.
(Hear, hear.) I am speaking to men who are owners of
property, and to others who reside and carry on their busi-
ness in these wards ; and I believe I am correct in informing
you, that measures are now in progress for following up the
bills obtained in parliament—that very shortly you will find
the Herculaneum Dock Company bringing their measures to
maturity—and that you will shortly see large docks here es-
tablished. (Applause.) No doubt these docks must bring
a vast number of persons to reside in these wards. No doubt
they will be of material benefit to every shopkeeper, and to
every owner of property in the district; and, therefore, I
think you must allow, that we ought to return such persons
to represent us in the council, as will follow up and bring to
maturity such beneficial plans as these. (Loud cheers.) It
is our duty to look after ourselves; and I am sure that, in
returning independent and able men as our representatives,
we shall best effect the objects we have in view. It is a well-
known fact, that the radical party in the council are opposed
to these plans. (Hear, bear.) They don't want to see docks
here, but they want to have everything under their own
thumb, and they cannot bear anything like competition.
Now, so far as I have learned any business, and I dare say
your experience will teach you the same, there appears to
me to be nothing like competition to enable the merchant to
carry on his trade with advantage to himself and those around
him. Here,' then, is an opportunity afforded of erecting
docks on the shores of the Mersey at half the expense at
which the Town Council can erect them to the westward of
the Salthouse Dock ; but they refuse, because they want to
establish a monopoly for their own benefit. (Hear, hear.)
I suppose they have nephews and cousins to appoint as
warehousekeepers and so forth ; and, for my part, I have no
objection to their providing for their nephews and cousins
out of their own pockets, but I have every objection to their
doing so at our expense, or at that of the tradesmen of Li-
verpool. (Hear.) The gentleman lam about to propose to
you, as a candidate for the ward in which I live, is Mr. Har-
bord. (Cheers.) He is very extensively engaged in busi-
ness in Liverpool, and owns several warehouses. (Cries of
" He's all right.") I sincerely hope he is ; but remember
that it will depend on you to make him all right on the first
of November. I have now great pleasure in proposing the
following resolution :—" That it is the opinion of this meet-
ing that Richard Harbors!, Esq., is a fit and proper person
to be put in nomination as a candidate for North Toxteth
Ward (No. 16) at the ensuing municipal election."
Mr. T. H. CARTER seconded the resolution.
Mr. T. M. GLADSTONE here came forward and said—Gen-
tlemen, before this resolution is put from the chair, perhaps
a few words from a party who feels a strong interest in the
proceedings of the meeting, and an elector, may not be un-
acceptable. (Loud cries of " Hear.") It was intended that
I should second the nomination of Mr. Harbord on this oc-
casion, but such was the anxiety of the meeting, that an op-
portunity was not given me so to do ; and lam glad of it,
for it shows the state of feeling that exists in this numerous
assembly, and which is an augury, I trust, of the success that
shall attend our exertions on the first of November. (Cheers.)
Mr. Smith, having about the same experience as myself in
these wards, has fully entered into many details respecting
the advantages that would accrue from having fit and proper
persons to represent us in the council ; but, why do I refer
to these things ? Not that former defeats should make us
lax in our exertions now, but that we should, one and all, en-
deavour to be first, in the day of battle, to mount the breach,
and nail the colours of the constitution to the mast-head.
(Great applause.) I cordially agree in the terms of the reso-
lution now proposed—first, because Mr. Harbord is a con-
stitutional conservative—secondly, because he is an inhabitant
of the ward, and next, because he has a-stake in the town.
I question much whether many of those who have passed
through, under the colour of reform, should be said to pos-
sess a stake in the town, but we are desirous to place the re-
presentation in the hands of those, who, having a stake them-
selves, and having no interest in the advancement of any par-
ticular scheme, should do their duty fearlessly, without any
predilections but those which govern all conservatives, and
which will, I am sure, govern Mr. Harbord. (Hear.) In
the advancement of improvements, we may, many of us,
differ, but I think we cannot do much worse than has been
attempted to be done, with the property of the town, at the
hands of its present representatives in the Town Council.
(Hear.) When we consider that they are pressing a course
which must cost the town some thousands of pounds,—l al-
lude to their attempted introduction of plans which seem to
be the god of their idolatry, and which cannot fail of being an
injury to all who reside in the town. (Hear, hear.) I per-
ceive that it is the custom, when reform candidates come
forward, as in Exchange Ward, to advocate triennial parlia-
ments and universal suffrage through thick and thin—so that
they seem ready on those annual occasions—to introduce any
agitation. no matter how extensive ; and are not satisfied with
confining themselves to municipal affairs, but carry their de-
structive principles into the very heart of the constitution it-
self. They are not content to speak on local matters, but
they must needs go to refer to that unEnglish mode of voting
—vote by ballot—by which a man could smile in your face
and stab you at the same time with a dagger to the heart. If
my opinion is that we may as
they want universal suffrage,
well have a female House of Commons as one composed ex-
clusively of the masculine gender. (Hear, and laughter.)
But, passing from these considerations, allow me to say that
it delights me to behold such a meeting as the present. In
despite of former defeats in these wards, I trust that, when
the election comes round, and that when I shake Mr. Har-
bord by the hand on the Ist of November, he will be your
representative. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. THOMAS DOVER next rose, and said—Gentlemen,
the following motion has been put into my hands :—" That
this meeting pledges itself to use every legal exertion to en-
sure the return of John Sheppard, Esq., and Richard liar_
bord, Esq., to represent these wards in the town-council at
the ensuing municipal election. He then continued :—I am
sure there is, not a gentleman present who will not cordially
agree with this resolution. At the same time I wish to draw
you attention to one word that it contains, namely, " legal,"
and that word has been inserted in it because illegal exertions
are about to be made against you by our opponents, and they
do not disguise it. It is their intention, I say, from the num-
ber of frivolous objections they have made, so to extend the
tin- a of the revision, that the fourteen days will be expired
before they are gone through, and that we shall be obliged to
fall back on the list of last year. (Hear.) I believe lAM

the first to make known this fact ; but we have not much
to fear from that list, for we might have returned fourteen
members under it ; and if every exertion is made, not only
in these wards but in every other, we shall increase that in
number, and then what will become of their trickery, and
what will become of themselves ? Why, we shall place them
where they ought to be, namely—nowhere. (Hear, and
laughter.) I care not, then, which they take ; let them take
this year's list, and we'll lick them ; or last year's, and we'll
lick them ; so that whichever list they take, lick them we
will. (Loud cheers.) In looking round me, and seeing so
large a number of gentlemen in the room, I am quite sure
they must feel interested in one subject—namely, the system
of education pursued at present in the corporation schools.
(Hear.) There has been a great deal said about those schools. '
Some will tell you that the Bible is in the schools, and some
will tell you that it is not in them. There is an immensity
of shuffling, but the truth appears to be this, that the system
of education is such as that the members of the church of
England and many of the dissenters cannot conscientiously
send their children there. (Cheers.) Your determination
ought to be, to get a scriptural education for your children,
and that the reading of the scriptures shall begin and end the
business of the school. (Hear, hear.) We all know that
children look to the door when the hour of breaking up ar-
rives, and that the time for putting the Bible into their
hands is not when they are sighing for liberty. In fact,
to put the Bible into the hands of a child at such a late
period of the day, is to give him a distaste for the word
of God. (Hear, hear.) I am not so uncharitable as to
say that has been the intention of the council, but the sys-
tem pursued unquestionably leads to that deplorable result.
After some further remarks on the building of warehouses,
the speaker concluded by saying :—I hope you will use your
most strenuous exertions to return both the candidates pro-
posed to you. I hope that you will not only give them your
votes early on the Ist of November, but turn out as canvass-
ers, and bring up your neighbours, in order that we may not
only beat them in these wards, but beat them in many of the
others also. We are now going to reform. (Cheers.) We are
going to be once more what we used to be in times past—
loyal people, Christian people, church people ; and the time
is not far distant when the mayors of Liverpool will not go to
the Socinian chapel, another to the Roman catholic chapel,
and a third, perhaps, to a socialist meeting. Oh ! that will
be a glorious day when we shall see our first conservative
mayor going to church. (Great cheers.) We shall all ac-
company him, and take our wives and daughters along with
us, so that the numbers will be so great that even St. George's
Church will not be able to hold the hundredth part of us.
The speaker resumed his seat amidst great applause from all
sides.

Mr. ROBERTSON seconded the resolution proposed by the
last speaker, which was put and carried unanimously.
Mr. SHEPPARD then rose, and addressed the meeting at
considerable length. He commenced by observing, that he
thanked them from the bottom of his heart for deeming him
a fit and proper person to represent their interests in the
common council. If he was so successful as to be returned,
he would use his best exertions to serve the several classes to
which those present belonged. They had heard a great deal
to-night on the different questions which agitated the public
mind in Liverpool ; but all he could say was that, with re-
gard to the education question, he would give it his deepest
consideration. To the constabulary force of the town he
would lend his best attention, in order to have efficient offi-
cers, and equally efficient sub-constables. After some fur-
ther remarks, he concluded by calling on them to dismiss the
radicals from their town council, and when the opportunity
offered, to return Lord Sandon and Mr. Cresawell. Mr.
Sheppard resumed his seat amidst loud applause.
Mr. II ARBORD next addressed the meeting. He cordially
thanked them for the reception they had given him, and,
being a plain man of business, and no orator, he could only
assure them that, if returned, he would endeavour to main-
tain, as far as in him lay, the constitution of the country.
He had ever been a member of the Church of England, and
hoped he should never disgrace her by any act, public or pri-
vate, of his life. At the same time he had a kindly feeling
towards all conscientious and Christian dissenters ; and he
believed he might assure them that his politics would ever
be guided by the word of God, and not the impulses of the
moment. (Cheers.)_

Mr. GLA2nsToNE'then proposed three cheers for Mr. Isaac
Holmes and the other conservative members of the town
council, which was loudly responded to by all present.
MI. HOLMES returned thanks, and the meeting separated.