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Cation. o tie politic funds. Ile might have spOken at more.
but he,conte:ited whzq he had said. Re
co; halt'-oneur::ed in the t.ievoi of Mr. Blackburn. (Loud cries
The NI A.Yuit said. he did not wish to give a• silent• vote on
that occasion, particularly as 11,;.had nut been Fortunate enough
to be in toe coancli. when the system-of the schools passed; or
he should have been iu the majority on that occasion. Two
Sundays ago he had heard these worthv chief Rector preach a
most excellent sermon, and he had taken for his text "Train
up a child in the way iu which he should go." Now that
should be his, text:. and they saw the example of training up
children in the manlier in which they ought to go by the
fanatical clergymen who had come amongst them. Where
were they educated —awl how? That's the question. In Ire-
land ; where the Protestant was taught to hate the Catholic,
and the Catholic the Protestant. That was the system they
had been brought up in ; and he thought the system they were
about adopting was a very happy one for teaching the young
that part of their duty to their. Creator was, to love their.
neighbour. These gentlemen were very humble. • They pre-
tended to have a great deal of meekness amt mildness.
And vet they saw spiritual pride oozing out of every pore.
The intemperate language they. used with regard to the catholic
faith could not be confined solely to the . faith—to the religion;
it must extend also to the individuals who adopted that religious
persuaSion. Would anybody tell him that that language could
be used and they not feel a hatred against their brethren ? And,
was it christian-like ? - Certainly slot. And if they pretended
to say they did not feel that hatred, could any one answer fur it
that they did not instil it into their neighbours? Look at the
children at the schools. Was not the finger of scorn pointed at
them ? And who had taught them to-do that? The clergy of
the Church of England, in one mass. And he was not sur-
prised at it. They were brought up at Oxford and Cambridge,
where the light of reason was scarcely ever allowed to enter;
and he was nut-surprised that the clergy had thus acted. -
hoped they_ should establish such . schools as the corporation
schools in- every ward in the town. They would be the best
antidote to the poison which these men were striving to'spread.
in every part-Of the town. (Cries of ".Tiaat'l it," " Bang up
to the mark," and " Hear, hear.")
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Mr. Chuncillor iluocicuinaNK then, in a very low tone of
voice, produced a speech - which .he 'proceeded to read. 'lle
spoke with such indistinctness and rapidity that all we could
collect of the oration was:—That Iv! 'lad not made up his mind
yet on the subject ; sod he expel el he should have to leave
the room when they came tJ ym,• on it. The objection to the
system appeared to be, that the Bible was not admitted es a
school-hook.. The selections weremade use of on the highest.au-
thority. lie thought this the best touting on which the schools
could be placed. If protestants and catholics could not go all
the- way together, let them go as far as they could, and leave
the rust of their scriptural education to parents and ministers.
Me. Councillor EN RYLA wuuNcu could not concurring
iu wbaa -fallen from the Mayor that it w ighly proper
•• to train. up a child •in the way in which he should go ;" and
he begged to compliment him, and the Council at large, on the
highly-tuperateinanner iu which be had expressed his opinions.
(•' Hear" he Mayor looked inexpressible things )
Mr. Councillor Joao", lie,,,4ed to say that the system was in
accordance with the views of the Ward which he represented.
There had not been a public meeting called for the purpose of
instructing him, but he considered he was right in expressing
that opinion. lie also took the liberty of remarking that, hav-
ing been one of the thunders of one of the largest schools in Li-
verpool, which he had attended now for 30 years, that they had
trained up children in the way in which they should go. without
the assistance of any Clergyman. The only direction they gave
to the parents of the ehitaher, was to take them to a place of
worship on Sundays, when they got taught. They had educat-
ed a great number of childien in that way; and none of them,
with only six exceptions, had been liable to public reprobation.
They had now a very excellent man as master, who was ser-
geant in his Majesty's 6th Regiment, and a better man could not
be.—(Loud cries of "question,"—" cut short the panegyric of
the sergyant.") _ _ _

Mr. Councillor LA W ENCE HEywooTti rose amidst loud
cries of "spoke," "spoke." After repeating for some time
that it was in explanation, he was allowed to proceed. "ft is
as my motion was not se,onded, I trust that your motion, as to the
nuMbei of schools, will be carried out.—not only as regards Li-
verpool, but in the country at large, and on the voluntary princi-
ple."
The Mayor then proceeded to take the division on Mr. Coun-
cillor Blackburn's amendment first—" That the schools be
continued under their present management," when there ap-
peared fur the amendment—
The Mayor.
Aldermen—W. Stuart, T. Booth, J. Hornbv, C. H. Jones,
W. Brown, T. Leathotn, I'. Smith, R. Benn, E. Evans, W. P.
Freine, T. B. Barclay, G. Robinson, W. Blain, I'. Bulky.
Councillors—J. Holmes, W. Thornhill, C. Rawdon, S. -Hope,
E. Harvey, A. M'Gregor, C. Logan, E. Smith, 11. Holmes,
L. Heyworth, J.• Mellor, J. Walmsley, T. Bolton, W. Rushton,
J. Woollright, R. Bright, W. Rathbone, J. Carson, W. Max-
well, W. Las Sell, T. Brocklebank, T. Morecroft, 'l'. Blackburn,
V. Higgins, T. coglau, J. Mason, G. Holt, G. Ramsden, J.
Platt, F. Jordan.
Against the amendment.—.l. Heyworth, J. Barton, C. Birch,
J. Bibby, C. Lawreusse, H. Lawrence, J. N. Wood, E. Crop-
per. J. Smith, .1. Cropper, Jun.
Moon. aud,O. Heyworth, Aldermen ; it. Hough-
ton, W. Shand, H. Hornby, J. Lawrence, J. S. Leigh, W. W.
Currie, and W. M.. Duncan, Councillors. • .
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Against • ... It)

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Majority
M. (.3.196110r ,li,ArroßoNii said he might be allowed to state
that had Mr. Caine and Mr. Hornty been present they would
have voted For the amendment.

itninediately replied, that hail Mr. Shand and
M. Houghton i)-cen present, tit 'y would have voted the other
way,
Mr. Councillor J. cItOpPER then begged to withdraw his mu-
tion,.as he 'Uousidered this.decision had decided it.
•Itut.tioyis.mgNT ot, THE GAOL.

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The TOWN.-Cl.Eiti: then read the report of the Gaol Com-
mittee, together with the s'atement of the returns of pri-
soners, autheuticat4 by the governor. He then read a .coin-
.tuurvicati.n for the better classification of prisoners, together
With a proposed alteration in the cooking department, the esti-
mated cost of which would be about £5O. lie then read a me-
morial from Thomas Handle, praying to be restored as turn-
key, he having been suspended for having allowed one of the
debtors to go into that part of the building belonging to the
females, and be shut up there ail night, to which the Gaol
Committee replied that they could not recommend his case to
consideration. •

Mr. Councillor J. HOLMES moved that the report be con-
firmed, and that the money he expended on the gaol, which was
seconded by Mr. Alderman Blain.

The Clouiwil then hastily broke up, without the question being
either put or the motion being carried, at a little before three
o'clock.