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HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MONDAY

Mr. DlvEre reported from the committtee appointed to in-
quire into the merits of the Tralee election petition, that John
Bateman, Esq,,, was not duly elected member for that borough,
and that Maurrce O'Connell, Esq., ought to have been returned
In answer to-a question from the Marquis of CHANDOS,
Lord JoHN _Rossini- said, that while Lord Durham was at
St. PeterslimrLhe received the salary of an ambassador; and
the expenses of the noble lord, in his mission to Canada, would
be paid by the country as the expenses of a special mission.
He would receive no salary while in Canada.
Tbe second reading of the county rates was postponed till
the 28th instant.
Lord JOHN RussEr.t stated, in answer to a question from
Lord Ashley, that the factories regulation bill would be intro-
duced in a few days, but not pressed forward until after Easter.
In answer to a question from Mr. O'CONNELL,
Mr. P. TtioresoN stated, that the English ambasiador had
remonstrated with the French government on the subject of the
new duties to be imposed on the importation of linens into
France; and, from the commuhicatious which had passed, he
trusted that the additional impost would not be persisted in.
Mr. Hussi then moved as a resolution, "That the appoint-
ment of the Hon. Mr. Primrose to the office of cashier and
receiver-general of the postoffice revenues in Scotland, being
a person not previously employed in the post-office department,
as established by the Duke of Richmond, the postmaster-gene-
ral, in 1831, injurious to the public service, and prejudicial to
the interests of the established clerks and officers in the post-
office establishment.
After some discussion, the motion was rejected by a majority
of 173, the numbers being—for the motion 29, against it 202.
Colonel SIBTHORP brought forward a motion for the reduc-
dion of the duty on fire insurances, which, after a short discus-
sion, was rejected by a large majority.
The house then went into committee on the army estimates,
which were. intioduced by Lord HOWICK. The noble lord stated,
that the actual increase of the estimates of the present year
over those of last year was £113,632.
Mr. HCNIE moved, as an amendment on the first vote, that
10,000 men be taken off the number of men proposed to be
voted for the service of the year. After a long discussion, the
amendment was rejected by a majority of 121 to 11.
Several sums were then voted for the different branches of
the service, after which the chairman reported progress, and
asked leave to sit again on Wednesday. Adjourned.-

HOUSE OF LOH DS. —TUESDAY.
The Earl of WINCHILSEA, adverting to returns regarding the
yeomanry, and the discontinuance of his own regiments, spoke
of the inequalities of the reductions that had taken place, aud
inquired whether what had been done were only the first step
towards further reductions.
Lord MELBOURNE answered, without speaking decidedly as
to what might be hereafter proposed, that at present further
reductions were not contemplated; and that, as to the noble
earl's troops, they were only reduced because the contiguity
of his county to the metropolis rendered the force less re-
quisite.
The Duke of WELLINGTON spoke of the utility of these
forces,• but admitted that they might have been better distri-
buted. - -

Earl STANuoPs deferred from Thursday till Tuesday next, at
Lord Brougham's request, his motion regarding the Poor Law
Amendment Act, &c.
LORDGIANELG moved the second reading of the Slavery
Abolition Acts Amendment Bill, entering into detail of the
objects of the measure, and the defects it was intended to
remedy.
Lord BR° UGH AM complained of portions of the bill, but offered
no general opposition to it, as they might be remedied iu com-
mittee.

Toe bill was eventually read the second time, and ordered to
be committed.

Their lordships adjourned till Thursday.

ROUSE OF COMMONS.-TUESDAY.

In the commons there were three ballots—namely for election
committees for Carlow, Walsall, and Dublin.

Many petitions were presented, although, owing to the extra-
ordinary noise that prevailed in the house, it was difficult to as-
certain the particulars.
Mr. CItAWFORD presented.a numerously-signed petition from
the inhabitants, merchants, ship owners, &c., of London, com-
plaining, of the coal monopoly, of the interruption of the Thames
navigation by the detention of the colliers, &c.
Mr. GILLON deferred his motion regarding the reduction of
thesoap duty until the 27th instant.
Sir E. KNATCHRULL inquired what would be the amount of
salaries under the new bill regarding courts of quarter ses-
sion, &c. ?
Lord J. RUSSELL said, not below £4OO, nor above £lOOO a
year.
Mr. HUNIR again urged the necessity of directing the clerks
to note the names of members dividing in election committees;
but, as the question is considered one of privilege, the subject
was not pressed to a division,
Lord J. RUSSELL (in answer to inquiries from Lord Dun-
gannon) said that it was not intended to propose any extension
of the time regarding the voluntary commutation of tithes; and
that where assistant commissioners, already appointed, required
the aid of further legal opinion, toey would call in the assistance
of a commissioner who could give such opinion.
Sir DE LACY EVANS then hrought forward his motion re-
garding those Spanish affairs in v‘hich.he had been personally
concerned. The object he bad in view, in moving for papers,
was to show that the representations respecting the forces that
had been under his command in Spain had been very incorrect,
or much exaggerated. To show such fact, he concluded with
moving for papers, .
Sir H. HARDINGE, at a considerable length, and with n-such
point, examined the conduct of General Evans in Spain, and
especially in allowing the flogging of troops at the caprice of
the officers. He declared the general's conduct to have been
herein contrary to the EOglish articles of war, and expressed
the hope that he should never again hear of such conduct. As
Lord Elliot intended to bring forward a specific motion regard-
ing the conduct of the legion, &c., he should reserve his opinion
till that motio❑ was brought forward.
—Lord ELLIOT said he should on an early day bring forward a
motion imp-u,guing the conduct and policy of her Majesty's
ministers towards Spain.
Sir H. VIVIAN defended General Evans.

After remarks EYNCOURT, Captain
BOLDERO, Lord PA LMERSTON, &C., the motion was agreed to,
and the papers ordered.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for Ireland obtained leave to bring
in a bill to amend the laws relating to the registration of voters
iu Ireland.—Adjourned.

lIOUSE OF COMMONS.—WEDNESDAT.
The. Speaker took the chair at four o'clock.
~ CARLOW (BOROUGH) ELECTION.

Colonel WA RD, as chairman of the Carlow (Borough) Elec-
tion Committee, reported to the house that the sitting member,
W. H. Manic, Esq., was duly elected, and that the petition
against the said return, and the opposition to it, were neither
frivolous nor vexatious.

- ; z MONTGOMERYSHIRE CANAL.
Mr. C CAT moved the second reading of the Montgomeryshire
(Western' Branch) Canal Bill.
Mr. OLt.vE, opposed the bill.
- W. WYNN also opposed the bill, and moved as an
amendment that it be read a second time this day six months.
A discussion ensued, in which several members took part;
strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the house divided, when
there appeared—
For the second reading
Against it

Majority
The bill is consequently lost.
The Combarton Roads Bill and the Walsall Market Bill were
severally read a second time, and ordered to be committed.
A number of petitions on various subjects were presented.
Lord CASTLEREAGH presented a petition from the high sheriff
and grand jury of the county of Down, against the I►ish Poor-
law Bill. The petition was read at length by the Clerk at the
table. . .

A great number of petitions in favour of, and against, the
the Boundaries Bill were Presented.

•
Sir C. B. VE.R2 presented 13 petitions praying for the total
abolition of negro apprenticeship on the Ist of August next.

BELFAST ELECTION.

Mr. M. J. O'CoNNELL said, he had to present a petition from
Alexander Montgomery, agent to the petitioners, defending the
return of Lord Belfast, and James Gibson; Esq. complaining
of demands made by the present sitting members for Belfast,
and their agent, for certain expences alleged to have been in-
curred by them as witnesses before the Belfast Election Com-
mittee.
Mr. SHAW was of opinion the house had no authority to re-
ceive a petition of such a nature. It referred toa question which
competent officers were appointed to adjudicate upon.
Mr. HOME said he was of opinion the petition ought to be
laid on the table, and then any motion on the subject might be
made.
The SPEAKER said it was a question entirely for considera-
tion of the house.
Mr. C. W. WYNN was decidedly of opinion that the petition
ought to he referred to the proper offi. cers appointed to tax costs
on parliamentary proceedings, anti that the house had no au-
thority to interfere.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was of opinion, as the
petition prayed for an alteration of the law, it might be received.
The SPEAKER recommended the hon. member to withdraw
the petition and give notice of a motion founded on the subject.
He might also. if he thought fit, present another petition, to
which the same objection would not attach.
After a few observations from Sir E. SUGHEN, Mr. HUME, the
ATTORNEY-GENERAL, and Mr. WAKi.Eir,
The SPEAKER said he had stated clearly that the expenses
before election committees, under the provisions of an act of
parliament, must be settled by the proper officers appointed for
that purpose. It would he very inconvenient fur the house to
interfere with the jurisdiction entrusted to those officers.
Mr. HUME said the petition was respectfully worded, and
therefore it ought to be received. ( Loud cries of " Spoke,
spoke," " Order.") 'The hon. member for some time attempted
to address the house, but the cries of "Spoke, spoke," "Order,
order," were so loud that he could not proceed.
Sir. J. OWEN rose to order. He told the hon. member to his
face that he was out of order.