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of Sir J. Pakington might be d
hasty legislation on thi

!feated by any attempt at

Sir J. Pakington had considered the subject with great
attention, and could not discern any mischief that would
arise from the small addition which this bill would make
to the existing powers of magistrates. Sir E. Ryan, who
was aLthe head of the Criminal Law Commission, Sir
F. Pollock, the Chief Baron of the Exchequer, Sir E.
Wilmot, the late Governor of Van Dieman s Land, and

Lord Campbell, the late Attorney-General, were decidedly
in favour of the principle on which it was founded. Th
law on tl

(1 it was to

correct those anomalies, and at the same time to prevent
the contamination of youth by long imprisonment before
trial, that he had introduced this bill. Feeling, as he did,
the necessity for immediate legislation on this subject, he
could not consent to withdraw this measure.
After some further discussion, in which the Att___,
General, Mr. Packe, Mr. Adderley, Mr. R. Palmer, and
Mr. Protheroe supported the principle of the bill, and
Mr. Henley and Mr. B. Escott declared their intention of
voting against its second reading, the house divided, when
the numbers Were :
For the second reading.

Against it

Majority in its favour 52
The bill was then ordered to be committed on Friday

Whilst the gallery was closed, Mr. WADDINGTON moved
that the adjourned debate on the second reading of the
Rating of Tenements Bill be resumed, and an hon. mem-
ber moved that the bill be read a second time that day six
month:
Sir (
since this bill. was last 1

GREY stated that it had been represented to him,
....
re the house, that it would in
1 effect upon property. As a
upon the law of settlement
ideration fl

many cases have a mat(

committee wa
which would also take inw subject of
rating, he could not assent to the second reading of this

measure._
Mr. 8.-.osuonN made a few observations in support

Mr. P. SCROPE observed, that if this bill were made
law, it would impose on the tenants of the lower class of
houses the necessity of paying a higher rent to indemnify

the owners for the rates imposed upon them. It would
likewise expose the owners of this species of property to
an increase of direct taxation by means of the rates to
which it would render them liable. He thought that it
would be better to exempt the poorest classes from local
taxation, by drawing a line between those cottages which
should be liable to rates and those cottages of lower ren-I

tal which should not be subject to rates. He therefore
suggested that all houses under £5 rent in rural parishes
should be exempted, as well as all houses under £8 or £lO
rent in town parishes.
Mr. Cripps and Mr. V. Smith supported the bill, and

were o
Scrope

COlonel Wood, Mr. Buck, Mr. Carew, Mr. Packe,
and Mr. Miles, supported the bill ; and Capt. Pechell,
Colonel Sibthorp, Mr. Grimsditch, Mr. Henley, Mr.
Allix, Sir J. Pakington, Mr. Hudson, and the Attorney-
General, opposed it.
The house then divided, when the numbers were—
For the second reading
Against it

Majority against it
Soo-the bill was lost.

Mr. S. CRAWFORD then moved the second reading of
the Tenants (Ireland) Bill.
Mr. B. OSBORNE considered that it would be extremely
improper for the Government to give a silent assent to this
bill, as it struck at the very root of property. He entered
his solemn protest against extending to the south of Ire-
land the tenant right of Ulster. The whole south of Ire-
land was a mass of bad cultivation and bad management.
He moved that the bill he read a second time that day
six months,

Mr: MONAGHAN requested Mr S. Crawford, as the
Secretary for Ireland and other influential members of the
Government were unavoidably absent, to allow the debate
to be adjourned for the present.

Aftersmile discussion, Mr. S. CRAWFORD reluctantly
assented to the adjournment of it until the following
Wednesday (to-morrow.)

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HOUSE OF LORDS,-TEIURSDAY

LoiTl BROUGHAM inquired if the government had any
intention of introducing any temporary measure to relieve
the pressure on the money market, and to suspend the
operation of the Bank Act of 1844 ?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that the government
had no intention of proposing any measure.
Lord ASHBURTON stated that during the last few days
the bills of meal of the highest respectability-in the city
had been discounted at rates between twelve and thirteen
per cent.
-

Several petitions on the education question were pre-
sented, and one from the select vestry of Liverpool, on the
subject of the influx of Irish paupers into that town,

150,000 of whom, the petitioners stated, had arrived there
since December.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the second reading
of the Poor Relief (Ireland) Bill. The noble marquis
expressed a hope that, whatever alteration their lordships
might think fit to make in the bill, they would not throw
the whole burden of the poor-rate in Ireland on the tenant,
because he considered it would be most desirable to re-
move the impression that prevailed that absentee Irish
landlords did not contribute to the relief of the poor in
Ireland.

The Earl of CLANCARTY. moved, as an amendment that
the bill be read a second time that day six months. He

officio guardians

,eted to the rating divisions, to the increase of e.z
and to other portions of this bill.
one Earl of St. GERMANS supported the princii.
the bill. He asserted that the whole property of Ireland

of lam

was not at present liabl

to be rated beyond tenpence in the pound. Th
earl gave notice of his intention to propose an am(
in the clause to increase the ex-officio guardians

move the omission of the
lutely to persons holding

more than a quarter of

Lord RIONTEAGLE condemned this

,ttempt to 1

acre of

permanently upon a temporary emergency as quite un.
justifiable, and one that could only result in failure. Thu
noble lord intimated his intention to propose in committee
that the bill be limited in its d
Lord STANLEY concurr
sure was fr

nion that the mea-

r, not only it

!ral welfare
ardships to

liimnies they might .-hav

they would not be willing to undergo themselves, and to

compare t

authority p(

nd he wo-uldJneet them in the discussion

upon them in a fair spirit, and without any party feeling,
desirous only of seeing a law passed that would act for the
advancement and the social improvement of Ireland.

Atter some remarks from the Earl of Desart, Lon
Brougham, and Lord Colchester, the amendment wa
All read a second time.

withdrawn, and ti

OF COMMONS

-THURSDAY

Dr. Bowntisto moved a series of resolutions on the sub
ject of the mode of keeping the public accounts, and sug
The hon. member said that sever

g a new

were expended