The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-11-01 00:00:00

Nov. 1, ]836.

TOWN COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS.

advocacy, The radical rump having, succeeded, by large pro-
fessions, in unseating their political antagonisis, and in taking
Possession of their places, found themselves in fall authority at
the Town-hall, but carrying snore sail than ballast. They con.
sequently looked around them for a skilful leader, versed iu
corporate affairs, and, the "temper" of Mr. Win. Earle being
what horsedealers call queerish, the lot fell upon Mr. Currie,
and he became the " first reform mayor of Liverpool."

And we willingly avow that, with the discordant and hetero-
geneous materials composing the first council of reformers, he
has got through well enough. Unpleasant must have been his
retrospective glance when he was officially engaged in quelling
the bitterness of personal strife, and biting must have been his
Mortification when, mayor as he was, he humbly sat down at
the dictum of Mr. Thomas Bolton! He knows, full well, that,
as men of honour, aye, and of business too, the talkative spirits
who have for the last ten months occupied the council-room are
net to be compared with the men they have for a time dislodged;
arid the shadows of the past have often flitted across his mind
:he compared the sayings and doings of the old council, who
were is every sense of the word gentlemen, with those of their
successors, whose dignity has been scurrility and their inde-
Itendenoe blackguardism. But Mr. Currie, possessing polished
manners and gentlemanly feeling, has kept what order he
(3111 - The coachman was skilful and sober, but the steeds
were restive. Some were kickers and some bolters—some shied
'—Others plimged—the road was newly Macadamised and full
of ruts, and the outside passengers were impatient and saucy.
When we say, however, that the vehicle on the whole has been
well driven, notwithstanding all the obstructions, we are saying
as much as need be said, and we feel convinced that Mr.
Currie will retire into private life a wiser and perhaps a better
Man for his experience of democracy.
We believe him to be placed in a false position; a secret
friend of the monarchy, he is working hard with the republican;
ea advocate for the independence of the peerage, he is harnessed
with the steeds who are snorting for its destruction ; the friend
of the established church, he is yet colleagued with the unitarian
and the papist—the factious dissenter and the infidel. It is an
anomaly painful to reflect upon ; but the mayor is not singular
in his position. On one occasion he did display himself as a man
°I. honor. When Rathbone and his clique essayed an insult to
the respectability of Liverpool, and sought to blight its charac-
ter by introducing the bane and curse of Ireland to the chief
magistrate of the town, the mayor refused to take the calumnia-
tor of British females by the hand, and O'Connell retired
abashed from the Town-hall, only to be hissed and scouted from
the Exchange Room. In this respect Mr. Currie displayed the
Englishman; for men in an official capacity should never pros-
titute the dignity of their office by giving either hand or heart
to Men who are covered with moral degradation.
Mr. Currie is.no doubt sick of office, and whilst we willingly
Pay him the tribute of praise due to him, we hope his successor
tneY fill his responsible situation with equal dignity and credit.
We wish it was in our power to say as much in praise of the
council u a body. Mr. Walnisley has done his feeble best to
throw a rag or two over their deformity—to hide their jobbing,
and to blind the eyes of the unthinking to the shameless disre-
gard of their professions.
That honourable councillor has had many throes before he
was delivered of his famous speech.
Much is said about their savings, but nothing about their
rgaanderings. Can Mr. Walmsley point out an improved
thoroughfare,—a widened street,—a public edifice, not project-
ed and partly, if not mostly paid for by the old Corporation.
Their published accounts do indeed chew a police station or
two, in which the lazy louts who perambulate the streets are
sheltered from the sun and rain, and where itinerant lecturers
on abstruse sciences can hold forth at the public expense. But
What of these ? The old Corporation accounts were debited
with £120,000, but the public had the benefit of that sum in the
widening of Lord-street. During the very last year of their
nf4e nearly £50,000 was paid for widening Pool-lane, unclothes
thoroughfares.
In these respects we may ask,
" What have the Council done ?"
And as readily reply,—JUST NOTHING.
It is quite easy for them to suspend public works and then
beast of " saving."
The Councillor in the conclusion of his speech asks vaunt-
ingly " who now ventures despite his secret wishes to advocate
the system of self-election,—the family compact,—the strict
Plan of perpetual exclusion." We answer unhesitatingly,—
THE REFORMED COUNCIL! Did they not advocate the system
of self-election, when they promptly elected every one of those
Wen Aldermen, who had been rejected by a majority of the
People as Councillors? Did not the secret conclaves at the
'lnge' smell of self-election or something very like it, when
measures and men too, were decided on, there in Cimmerian
darkness, and the reformed Council gulped their pills without
One contortion? Will they deny that Mr. James Brancker's
"denunciations" have had no effect on them ? And then "the
family compact" forsooth. As if there were no ties of friend-
ship or of interest equally strong with those of consanguinity.
What were the appointments of Ratcliffe and Crooke, of Wy-
hergh arida Roscoe, but appointments of political and personal
Predilection . What meant the nomination of young Holt to
a public place.—was there no family compact between Bolton
and Holt? Vaught. With Liberals, interest is religion, and
assertion synonymous withfalschood.
"Perpetual exclusion" too! Why is it not notorious that
the earliest thought at break of morn and the last before sinking
to repose, is, how they may best exclude " THE Toeins," and,
consequently, every thing honourable or respectable. If the
'radical prints are to be believed, the exclusion of every man
who advocates Conservative principles is to be "perpetual."
Por this they strain every muscle—for this they labour and live
-for this they lie without ceasing, and for this they threaten
and bluster. Not a subaltern in their employ who drives a
quill—sweeps a. market, or scavenges a street, dare now avow
his politiCal opinions. The Albion, of yesterday only, contains
a 'terrible explanation, that certain market-lookers in the em-
Ploy of the Corporation, who, it appears, had been charged with
the heinous crime of having been at the Tradesmen's Dinner at
'the Amphitheatre, had not been there. Poor wretches! they
are now serving hard task-masters, that they are not to dine
where they please, lest at last they should have no dinner at all.
Yes! it has come to this, that there is to be "perpetual ex-
clusion," and if Mr. Walmsley did not know it, he was a dolt
for writing that which he did not comprehend. But the vanity
of some men leads them into strange vagaries.
To "keep out the Tories," then, no man who wears the
livery of the Corporation or eats their bread, is any longer to
have a will of his own. "0 liberty ! " said the victimized
Freuchwoman, " what crimes are committed in thy name."
Yes ! the Caffre enjoys more liberty than the slaves of the li-
beral corporation, when, after the toils of a long day, under a
vertical sun, he can stretch his limbs under his own shingle, or
wank where he pleases. Liberty of thought—liberty of speech
--liberty of movement—is denied to every man, from the Town-
clerk downs to the policeman, who receives his pay front the
Treasurer's-office. It is degrading to British spirit, and must
not he submitted to any longer. We hope that the election of
this day will scatter to the winds the presumption of those who
would thus chain down the human mind—who have filled our
schools with papists, and thus propagate error at the public ex-
Pense---:-who have fostered more jobs during their short reign
than their predecessors did in a life-time, and who have disap-
Pointed the hopes of hundreds who were deceived by the spe-
eidosness of liberalism.
We have thrown together these few remarks in reference to
the corporation generally.
The speech of Mr. Samuel Hope will raquire a longer com-
taent than we can now devote to it. It shall, however, have our
attention on Friday next—merely premising ad interim, that if
this non-descript gentleman in his allusions to the remarks of
the STarsoa sue, respecting the sale of land in John-street, mea-
sures our opinions by his own, he labours under a mistake; and
we shall probably undeceive him by unmasking our batteries,
as we are in the habit sometimes of unmasking hypocrites and
Would-be patriots.

MUNICIPAL ELECTION.

This day, the Ist instant, the election of seventeen Councillors
will take place, sixteen to supply the vacancies occasioned by
Itternbers who go out by rotation, ;intl one to supply the vacancy
caused by the dents► of Mr. Sharples. All the wards will be
fiercely contested. We subjoin a list of the retiriur, :members
wad -of the names of the candidates on both sides :

a 'WAIT/I. GOING OUT.
EVrtn& Kirdl 'C. Horsfall+....
2 Scotland-road Richard Shiel...
3 Vauxhall.rond J. D. Thornely+
4 St. Paul's.... 'John Barton....
Exchange .... James Mellor...
° Castle-street. Thos. 801t0n....
7 St. Peter's.... Richard Bright..
8 Pitt-street.... W. R. Preston..
9 Gt George's.. :fames Aikin+..,
10 Rodney-ste Thoma H01t...
Abercromreby. t T. Brnseltlebank
12 Lime-street.. R. Roskell+....
13 St. Ames_ Richd. Alison+.
4.4 West Derby.. •Jos. Sandars+..
15 S. Toxteth. ~:-/amnerhjftropnlleasint..
18 North Toxteth Chas. Tayleur+.
The members going out mark,
+ Members who re

1111FORlitTtS.

George Quayle
Richard Slue'.
James Muspratt.
James Stitt..
James Mellor..
Thos. Bolton
Richard Bright..
W. R. Preston
Henry Ripley.
Thomas Holt
T. Brocklebank.
Vincent Higgins.
Joseph Mason.
R. W. Wood
Francis Jordan

0:1 Saturday the Canned again met for the purpose of finally
passing the B) e-laws. The Council was called for eleven
o'clock, but it was half-past before business commenced, a sof-
ficent number of members not being assembled.
The Town-cum( said he would proceed with some business
which it was intended should be taken last, until the council
should be assembled.
The TOWN-CLERK then read the presentment of the Grand
Jury of the late Michaelmas Sessions, that two unfinished
houses in St. James's-street were in a dangerous condition to
the public. The mode to pursue would be to make such a reso-
lutioe as had before been come to in similar cases.
The Depury Towe-cseue. then read a former resolution
which had been come to, that a sufficient guard be erected round
and, if necessary, the buildings be ordered to be taken down.
The Meru's, "Ifit is ordered to be taken down the council
have power to make the owner ply all the expenses.
A similar resolution to the above was then agreed to.
The TOWN-cises, the Grand Jury further made a present-
ment on the efficiency of this Now Police, and on the clearness
with which they had uniformly given their evidence. (Hear.)
A sufficient number of the council at length being assembled
The TOWN-CLERK said the bye-laws now to he submitted and
passed were those which related to the whole of the Borough.
The Tow rs-ceises then read the preamble, and proceeded to
read the by o-laws :
That if any owner or occupier of any shed, &c. the sides or
ends of which are made of wood, should light any fire near the
same. Fines ss. 10s. and 40s. Approved finally.
That if any person shall hoist any cask, &e. into any ware-
house without proper ropes. Fines 10s. 20s. and £5. Agreed to.
Any person hoisting out of a cellar any cask, &c. the same
fines. Agreed to.
Any person throwing any offensive matter into any street, &c.
Fines ss. 10s. and 495. Provided, this bye-law not to extend to
the removing of any manure from any stable, &c.
Mr. Councillor WaLAISLEY, as one of the council, would pro-
test against the laws being passed that day, as it would be legis-
lating with fearful rapidity. and many members were not fully
acquainted with them. Ile should, therefore, move that the
bye-laws should be printed and each member furnished with
copies before they be passed.
Mr. Councillor E. SMITH begged to second that, if it would
be no hinderance to the public business.
Mr. Alderman BaowN said, these bye-laws had been several
weeks before the public, and he thought they had had considera-
tion enough. He thought they could not go before the public
at the election without having passed any bye-laws. The altera-
tions made were merely verbal ones.
Mr. Councillor EARLS concurred with Mr. Brown.
Mr: Councillor HATIIBONE would protest against the use of
the expression "indecent haste " by his frend.
Mr. Councillor WALSISLEY said he never .made use of any
such expression.
The M ems said the words were "fearful rapidity," and with
which sentiment he entirely disagreed.
Mr. Councillor RATBBONE hoped Mr. Walmsley would with •
draw his motion, no one more readily ecceeded praise to the
unwearied services of Mr. Walmsley than he did, but he thought
he had not seen the exertions of others in these bye-laws.
Mr. Councillor LAWRENCE HEYWORTH enquired if the coun-
cil at any future time could not remodel the bye-laws.
The Towe-cexess replied, most certainly, on a short notice.
Mr. Councillor SoIEL was sorry in agreeing with Mr. Walms-
ley that he should differ from many of the council. He was
much surprised to hear one of the gentlemen of the committee
say that nothing but verbal alterations were made in those
laws. The laws before them had been very materially altered
in words. The very law just read had been greatly altered.
The substance of it before was to make every house in Liverpool
subject to it. He thought the alterations had been so numerous
that it was nothing more than common prudence and discretion
to have them placed in the hands of the council in their present
shape, in order that they might see that they were in accordance
with their wishes, as sometimes a single word would materially
alter the sense. He cordially agreed with Mr. Walmsley.
Mr. Alderman BROWN said the laws themselves had un-
dergone revision after revision, and it. had been generally en-
derstood that this meeting. was for their legal passing. No
alteration bad been made in them, but slight inaccuracies had
been corrected.
Mr. Councillor Hors enquired if Mr. Walmsley persevered
in his motion ?
Mr. Councillor WaLMSLEY.—" I do."
Mr. Councillor HOPE said that while it would bo readily ad-
mitted that no individual had given more of his time to the
public good than Mr. Walmsley, yet he must bear in mind that
he had not given the value of his services to the passing of the
bye laws, while many of the members of the council had given
day after day to them. It was important that these laws should
be finally passed during, the present week, in order that they
might not assign to others that with which they were unac-
quainted. He hoped Mr. Walmsley would withdraw his motion.
Mr. Alderman Evers said he had been greatly astonished
at what Mr Walmsley had said, because be should have ex-
pected that they should have been charged with unnecessary
delay. These bye laws had been undergoing discussion for
weeks, and they had had the advantage of all the usual modes
of going before the public. There was no man in the council
could have a higher value of their services than Mr. Walmsley,
but he (Mr. Evans) had no idea that these services had been
given in all departments of the government of the town; he
thought Mr. Walmsley had no right to make those observations
on others. Not only had Mr. Walmsley not been on the com-
mittee of the bye laws, but he had not attended at the council
during their discussion to give the benefit of his suggestions.
Ile had had invitations sent to him but had not attended. It
was quite,possible for those who had not gone long journeys to
undervalue the labours of those who had. He wanted to know
what was discussion if they had not discussion enough on these
bye laws? He did not know what was public if they had not
been made public. if the discussion they had had already had
not been able to produce the desired end; no further discussion
could produce the desired end.
The Marcie wished to take the opportunity' to say a few
words, in order to justify himself for having allowed to go with-
out notice the charge that the proceedings of the bye laws had
been passed with improper haste. He did not know what
might be the feelings of some gentlemen who had not attended
the council regularly, but he believed the feeling was, generally,
that tho' there was no more necessary duty there had been' no
duty which had been more irksome; irksome in consequence of
the extreme length of time and the multifarious meetings re-
quired. He must say that there never was a more hasty charge
made—he would say inadvertent one than had been made by
the councillor for Castle-street. He thought, to avoid person-
alities, it would be better to address the members of the council
for,the future by the wards which they represented. He thought
Mr. Walinsley might justify himself to his constituents for
having allowed other members to give greater attention to the
bye laws than he had, he having occupied his time quite suffi-
ciently in other respects to justify !inn to his constituents.
One of the reasons why it was desirable to pass the present bye
law was, that after the present week seventeen new members
might come into the council who would naturally say, " we
must have time to consider these laws before we can pass them."
They had always this remedy if necessary, on a short notice,
the new council might always assemble for the purpose of
remodelling and repealing those laws. He did not say that
the new council were unfit for the duty. Unless there were
some better reasons advanced than had been, he could not
assent to the idea that these proceedings had been brought
forward with improper haste.
Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN concurred with the Mayor. He
thought Mr. Sheil totally in error in supposing that any vital
alterations had been made, by the committee, in those laws.
The TOWN-CLERK said he was not aware that any new matter
had been introduced into the bye laws.
Mr. Councillor CoGLAN said if those laws had been new, and
brought forward for the first time, the observations of Mr.
Walmsley and Mr. Shiel would have been very proper ; but
many of the laws had been long in operation.
Mr. Councillor MORECROFT gave credit to Mr. Walmsley for
good intentions in the matter, and duly estimated his labours iu
the department he had undertaken, but he thought Mr. Walms-
ley did not duly estimate the labours of others. '1 he office of
committeeman on the bye laws had been very laborious. He
could speak also to the indefatigable conduct of the Town-clerk
in this matter, he had been up many times nearly half the night,
and the night before for instance be had been up with him till
between one and two o'clock. (Hear, hear, hear.)
Mr. Councillor WALNISLEY said, that as he perceived that
the majority of the council were against him he should, though
his conviction was still the same, withdraw his motion. (Hear.)
He never wished to.bring anything before the council which
should be considered as setting his own feelings against others.
His opinion was still strongly in favour of the bye laws being
made more public. If seventeen new members were to come
into the council (which he did not apprehend) they "could use
their senses" in reading these laws, and if they were right they
could accede to them. He felt satisfied that great good would
this question more at large.
result from considering
The bye law which had last been read was then again read by
the Town-clerk and approved.
After which the general bye laws, the whole of which have
appeared in the various council meeting reports in our columns,
were again read over and passed, sonic with slight alterations in
them.
On the live law being read. " that if any blacksmith using a
forge, having a door or windoer, or other opening fronting the
street, should not close such, opening every evening half an hour
after sunset so as effectually to prevent'the light shining through
the windows, Sze., he shall be subjected to penalties,
- A letter was here put in, signed by Messrs.. Andrews and
Prouse, stating. that their foreman said that if they were obliged
to shut their windows in winter at foisr o'clock,7as they worked
till seven, they would be smothered.
Mr. Alderman BROWN said they might Make—any opening
they liked, so as they prevented the light shining into the street.
Approved.
Ihe penalties for writing obscenities on the walls were re=
duced to 2s. 6d., 10s., and 405.; from 10ss for the first offence, as
it was urged it might frequently fall on boys.
A new bye-law was passed making it penal to throw slates,
bricks, mortar, &c., from the roofs of houses into the street.
Penaltiestss., 10s., and 20s.
Some discussion occurred on the bye-law relating to carrying
the carcasses of cattle and butcher's meat without a cover
through the street.
Mr. Alderman EVANS thought legs of mutton ought to be
excepted; there was nothing indecent in seeing them carried,
and they could not legislate for every trifling offence.,
Mr. Councillor EARLE thought it was a nasty dirty habit to
carry meat through the streets without a cover, anti that these
who could afford to buy a leg of mutton could afford to put it in
a basket or cover it with a cloth.
Mr. Alderman Bitower thought they could not do better thin
allow the law to remain as it was. A -bloody sheep's neck or
heart for instance was a very nasty sight in the street.
Mr. Councillor RaTunosie thought an exception might be
made in the law, and that it should .only applyjo quarters of
beasts or large pieces. Fort hough ",hleeding hearts" might
sometimes affect some ladies, he did 'njethink legs of mutton,
&c. would. (A laugh.)
A:bye-law, made for the purpose of preventing the chickory
manufactories, was read, " that if any person shall cause any
noxious vapour, &c., so as to be offensive to persons passing
along the street." Penalties. 205., 405., and £5. Agreed to.
over the whole of the general
time for the bye-laws to come
bye-laws,waaoeid-ctrhAeyeem,uasfttenrorweafidxinag
into operation, sufficiently distant to allow of their being before
the Secretar of State forty days before comin g into oeration.
It was theny agreed that ihe bye-laws should conic into opera-
tion on the let of January.
It was proposed to adjourn the council till Monday at ten
o'clock for the purpose of passing the rest of the bye-laws relat-
ing to the old borough; which was agreed to.
Mr. Alderman BaowN would, before they separated, present
the report of the Dock Committee.
The TOWN-CLERK then read the report, which, after stating
R
the labours of the committee on the dock question when it was
before parliament, stated that on the Ist of November next the
present Dock Trustees would cease to be so, and the new coun-
cil would become the trustees, having. the power to elect thirteen
members out of their body as 'a majority of the committee of
management, and the cnuneil would have power to revise the
proceedings of the committee.
The council then adjourned at half-past two o'clock.

PORTERS.

The bye-laws relating to porters were then road over egai❑
and passed.
Mr. T. SMITH said that the bye-law which authorized a porter
to charge 6d. for any distance under a thousand yards made it
lawful for him to charge that sum for running up the quay steps
with a trunk, and placing it on a coach. He thought that ton
much.
An alteration was then made, that porters, if employed under
a quarter of an hour, should not charge more than 3d.
SMOKING 111 WAREHOUSES.

The bye-laws relating to this were read.
Mr. Alderman RoniNsoN wanted to know what harm there
was in a man smoakiug his cigar before his own counting-house
fire. Mr. Freme thought there ought to be no smoking
in
counting-houses. On a division there appeared four smokers.
(Laughter.) Mr. E. Smith thought there was a loophole, for
such was the infatuation of smokers that they would smoke any-
thing as well as tobacco, and' anniseeds were most delicious
smocking. They might also smoke coltsfoot and tea, &c.
The laws were then passed.
STEAM-BOATS.

The bye-laws relating to• steam-boats wore then read ; and
passed. MARKET COMMITTEE.
The bye-laws having been got through, the regular business
of the council was resumed. The proceedings of this committee
were then read and confirmed.
OBSERVATORY COMMITTEE.
The committee appointed to inquire this subject had made
every inquiry, and were unanimously of opinio❑ that an obser-
vatory. would be of great advantage to the port. They had
made inquiries, and found that the costs of the building, with
suitable apparatus, would be about £l2OO, and the annual ex-
pense from £250 to £3OO.
The resolution of the committee was then ordered to be en
tered on the books.

YESTERDAY.
The council met again by adjournment at ten o'clock yes-
terilay. • .
Before the proceedings commenced, Mr. Hope drew attett•

THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

lion to a remark of the Mayor on Sabi/Any, that the members Committee on this subject, those parts of the new borough
of the oouncil should address one another by the names of the which are not lighted, cmild nut he included in the rate.
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wards i hey represented ; there appeared to him to be a dilli- Mr. Councillor JOHN Hoest.es, the Chaim/11;1m
,if
that W.u.,t,
(1,
cuity in this, as there were three councillors for each ward. He Committee, said, it was only intended to ca oil p. b
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did net know how to 'nest the difficulty, and was afraid it would the borough which was lighted to contribute to the rate ; u ,
be found rather inconvenient. there were 36 miles of pipes to lay, and it Was unpossible to get
The MA yoR said it might refer to the last speaker; three them all laid before winter.
councillors fur a ward would hardly speak at the same time. It MARKET COMMITTEE.
would be in the discretiou of gentlemen. He only mentioned
The MAyeR said, the next point raised was, on a recommen-
it as a means of avoiding personality-. dation of the Market Committee, that marble should be sub-
The DF.PuTy TOWN-CLERK then proceeded to read over thp
stituted for slates in the Fish Market.
Mr. Councillor Diexceit, as a member of the Committee and
minutes of the proceedings of the various committees since the
last monthly council. . . -of the Council,,must dissent front the recommendation, because
riNaticE COMMITTEE. he thought it was a very unnecessary expellee to lay out £.lOO
The proceedings of the finance committee were read and
or £5OO extra fur marble.
confirmed. 1 Mr. Councillor Jo eDAN said, it would be a disgrace to them,
LEASES. for the sake of this paltry expellee, not to have marble slabs in
A number of applications fur leases were read, and agreed to.
the Fish Market, as they had in all the principal markets in
WATCH COMMITTEE. Europe.
The proceedings of this committee were also confirmed. 1 Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE inquired what was the
IMPROVEMENT comMITTE.E. item of expence of the slates.
The aleyoe said before reading the report of this committee
Mr. Councillor HENRY HOLMES replied that the slates would
he would state that it was intended to apply for an act of come Pa-
rr. Alderman Roettesole moved that marble be used, which
to £lOO or £5OO, and marble would come to £BOO.
M
liament for effecting certain improvements in the town. He .
would wish gentlemen of the council, if they should observe was seconded by
the omission of any place which wanted improvement, not to
Mr. Councillor ReztinoNn, who was decidedly of opinion
suppose that it had escaped the attention of the improvement
that they should have much better fish with marble.
committee, but the committee thought they had brought fur- j After some discussion, the council divided, when there ap-
pect only two against the use of marble.
,
ward as much as was necessary. If gentlemen had any sug-
are
gestions to make he would beg them to reserve them, and make
them to the committee, as to make them publicly might raise The resolution, that marble be used, was therefore carried,
and the proceedings of the market committee were confirmed.
the value of property in the immediate neighbourhood of the
intended improvements to the injury of the-funds of the corpo- SALE OF CORPORATE PROPERTY.
ration. The Meyoa now called upon Mr. Hope, who had given
Mr. Councillor RATHBONE here rose and said on a former notice of a motion as to the mode of disposing of corporate
occasion when he had asked for the confidence of the council i property.
for a committee it had been declined, and it was thought there I Mr. Councillor 'lora said, the resolution he held in his
had been a certain degree of temper in his remarks. It was on hand was in substance the same us the motion of which he had
principle he had urged this then, and he urged it so now- given notice. It would be in the recollection of the council,
aVheneeer a committee required the confidence of the council that that notice had originated in Some doubts which had been
they were, he thought, bound to give it. A committee would entertained by some members in the coon -it, and by many per-
often be placed in a very difficult situation if that confidence sons out of doors, in reference to the correctness or incorrect-
was net granted. He would beg to suggest that the council ness of the proceedings of the improvement committee with re-
should at all times grant such confidence when it was required. Bard to a particular sale—that sale being the sale of the Globe
If a committee ever abused that confidence they had a remedy Chambers; Itiven was neethdful
re mar to refer to that. Notwithstanding
in their own hands—not again to elect them. the publicity gto e ks which were male
The MAYOR said it was desirable that the principle should be justification of the proceedings of the committee, onew ofhe
the
adopted, but Mr. Rathhone's remarks were not at all applicable editors of the public press, e Standard paper in this
in this case. It was not that the committee wished to keep in- thought it right to name. the paper—had commented on those
formation from the council, but that individuals of the council proceedings in terms of bitter sarcasm and irony; and if it were
should keep information back and submit it to the committee. not that the motive was perceptible to every observant mind to
The committee proceedings were then read. A letter from by in reference to the coming re-election, he would say, that he
Mr. Felton, recommending the erection of exhibition rooms for might in truth say it did betoken a very malignant spirit on the
the encouragement of the fine arts, was read. The committee part of the writer of the article. Ile would only take the liberty
in the present state of the council funds could not act on Mr. of saying, that there never were any public proceedings that
Felton's suggestion ; but if ever there should be a surplus fund were more free from taint of any nature--of any interested mu-
it should be inquired into. The committee had inquired into titre, either direct or indirect, on the part of the members of the
the particnlars of the dead-house, and it was resolved that some committee—than were the proceedings in question. And that
improvement in it was requisite, and that the clerk of the cons- he was prepared to substantiate, and could demonstrate if requi-
mittee be requested to confer with the parish on the subject. site ; and any "single individual member" of the council, who
The proceedings of this committee were theu confirmed. might leave the room with the smallest doubt on his mind about
BYE-LAWS. the correctness of the proceedings of that committee, he would
The consideration of the bye-laws were then resumed. again repeat that he would be ready, on any occasion, to shew to
The Towe-c emu( said they were now proceeding to the bye- him that there could not have been thatabuse, or any reason to do
laws to be passed for the old borough. The first division of bye- anything that was inconsistent with honour and rectitude. The
laws under the local act related to hackney-coaches. He proposition he had to bring forward was, however, of great
suggested that the several bye-laws relating to hackney-coaches moment, if that circumstance had not called for it—it was of the
in the general act, should be passed and made to apply to the greatest moment, in a council constituted like theirs, that they
local act as regarded the old borough. should be governed by right principles in the disposal of pro-
A resolution to the following effect was then passed--" that perty, and that all proceedings in such cases should be such as
the several bye-laws passed at the last council, relating to other not to give room for cavilling or 'causing any remarks. They
carriages in general, should specially apply to coaches plying ought also to be able to satisfy the public us well as themselves.
for hire and be embodied in the bye-laws relating to coaches. He felt satisfied that such would be the result of the motion he
Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE said this would be aptiti- - was about to submit to them :—" That a committee be now ap-
cable, with the exception of that part which inflicted a penalty pointed to report on the best mode of promoting publicity in the
for carriages standing in the streets, which would require reed- sale of property belonging to the corporate estate." They
fying; it would require a clause " with the exception of car- would agree with hint that it was a subject which required deep
ridges plying for hire." consideration:'
The Tows-cLEEK said this should be seen to, ' Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE.—" Before Mr. Hope
The TOWN-CLERK then read over the bee-laws relating to brings forward his motion, would it not be hotter to bring it
hackney coaches, seriatim, which were' passed. We have in before the next council ? Because, by a standing order of the
our reports of the first reading of these bye-laws given them in council, all our committees expire on the 9111 of November."
full, together with the debates upon them. He did not oppose the motion, but, as all committees would so
On reading over the bye-law for appointing an inspector of shortly expire, he thought it would be a mere loss of time now
hackney coaches, in which John Martindale is appointed by to appoint a committee.
name, Mr. Henry Lawrence thought it would be better to omit Mr. Councillor RATHBONE moved that the question be ad-
thejourned till the next council. He was sure it must be obvious
name; for in any future nomination it miget create dif-
ficulty, and render it necessary to insert the name of any future that one third of tbe council 'were going out, and they could
inspector in abye-law, with all the consequent delay. '1 he bye-
not say how many would he re-elected. He thought it would
law was then altered to "a fit and proper person shall be ap-
be rather disrespectful to the in-Coining council to appoint a
pointed," and not " John Martindale," &c. committee now.
Mr. Councillor HOPE begged to call attention to the bye-law Mr. Councillor MORECROFT begged leave to second the
relating to the cjleck-string; the penalty for not having which motion.
" when required" was fixed at a Is. He thought the penalties Mr, Councillor Horn said, as he was appealed to individu-
ought to be doubled; that they were much too low, and oually by Mr. Lawrence, he would merely say that he would
to be increased to 2s. 6d., 55., and 10s. leave himself in the hands of the conncil; hut, in so doing so,
Mr. Councillor JORDAN thought the present penalty quite he would repeat that ho was anxious the committee should lie
sufficient.
'
appointed on the present occasion; because, when questions
The TOWN-CLERK said, as the bye-law was now worded, the had been postponed, they had never afterwards conic before
fine would be for almsitive refusal of the driver, when requested, them.
to fasten a check string to his arm. The subject was then postponed till next council.
Tha increased penalties were then agreed to. • . THEMAYOR'S ADDRESS.
CARTS. .
The TowN-eartex said they were now proceeding to the bye- The MAYOR here rose, and said—" This is the last time I
laws relating to carts. The provisions of the general act relat- shall have the honour of addressing the present council. I take
big to carriages would be equally applicable to carts as they this opportunity of addressing you, because you are aware we
were to hackney coaches, with the same exception of the quell- are going to lose five or six of our members. As this is the last
fication relating to stands. time I shall have the opportunity of addressing them, I wish to
The same resolution relating to carts which had been passed say a few words. In doing so, 1 feel more embarrassed than I
relating to coaches was then agreed to. have felt since I have taken the chair. (Applause.) On being
St. John's Market was introduced as a stand for carts, and appointed to are arduous and novel task to me, I was quite
the streets in the neighbourhood of the markets were made stands aware of the responsibility which I took upon myself, or rather
'or country market carts. which you conferred upon me. I do assure you I appreciate
the attentions which, I cau truly say, I have invariably met
with. I felt from previous experience, and I ant sure you are
all aware of it, that the proceedings of a numerous body like
'his should be conducted with order and regularity; and I
-et, front time to time,

therefoie have taken the liberty to suggest,
certain regulations which have received your favour, and on
which we have acted to the present day; because, in so doing,
I was convinced that the business of the council would be con-
ducted better, and that its results would he more satisfactory
out of doors. I felt anxious that this large body should have
the character of mature and cautious deliberation in its pro-
ceedings. If I have appeared, at any time, to bear hard upon
any individual member of• this council, in enforcing rules of
order, I trust. he will forgive me, and think that I did it for the
best. Whenever l have had occasion to speak, it has been
wholly from a strict desire to preserve that order which is for
the advantage of us all. .1 feel assured, at the same time, that
in enforcing order 1 have been ably supported. Gentlemen,
the honour you have conferred upon me is one I shall never
forget. The constant feeling which has animated me during
the year has been, to discharge my duty with credit to myself,
and with credit to you. (The Mayor sat down amidst loud
cheering and applause which lasted some time.)
Mr. Councillor JOHN• HoLmus said, he should beg to move
the cordial thanks of the Council to the present Mayor, as many
members of the Council might not be present at the next meet-

mg.
Several members simultaneously seconded the motion.
Mr. Councillor AIRIN said he intended to have seconded the
motion, us he could, perhaps, speak with less bias than many
members-of the Council, as he was one of the retiring members.
lie must hear his tribute to the manner in which the Mayor
had conducted himself, which had been a great advantage to
the community. He would say that he had set an example
worthy of being followed by every successor. (Loud cheers.)
ST. THOMAS'S CHURCH. Mr. Councillor RA THRONE could not give a silent vote on
The MAYOR then drew attention to a remark which had been the occasion. Ile did hope that this vote would not be coml.
made, during the teading of the Finance Committee proceed_ dered a precedent for mere formal votes for the future. It was
ings, with regard to St. Thomas's Church, that the corporation a vote for the first reform mayor of the corperation, and the first
aught to contribute their quota towards the expense of the choir reform mayor had had very great difficulties to contend with
as owners of seats. He believed Mr. Bolton had something to and therefore he was entitled to a special acknowledgment from
say upon the subject. them.
Mr. Councillor 13oreroa here rose, and said that his object in Mr. Councillor Jonoeist said, having had the honour of pro-
rising was, to move that a part of the report of the Finance osing the mayor, as mayor, lie claimed a little merit to him-
Committee be postponed, which related to St. Thomas's Church. self for having made that selection—(laughter)—and the council
Ile was perfectly ready to go into the subject then, and to discuss approving of it. (Cheers.) Ho took the opportunity to tell
it; but as it might occupy a considerable portion of their time, them the pride end gratification he had in being an humble
and they had other matters of importance to attend to, he would member of that reform council, who had done so much for the
wish the council to postpone it. town of Liverpool; and he hoped that such members would be
Mr. Alderman ROBINSON seconded the postponement, reelected as had served as honestly and faithfully as he had in
Mr. Alderman le-Eite-mu said that the subject was brought that
room. ' (Loud laughter.)
before the Finance Committee, 'and, after full discussion, it was MCeuncillor E. SMITH said, on behalf of the reporters who,
thought only reasonable and just that the corporatian, in their in that room, &Mid not speak for themselves, he begged to offer
capacity of owners of pews in this church, which they had pure their thanks to the rneyor fel. his uniform conduct towards them.
chased, ought to contribute their portion to the expenses of the He understood that they had handed to him a tribute of respect,
choir, per rata, according to the rental of their pews. Mr. and he was only sorry that his.own reporter was absent on other
Bolton took a different view, and it would be for the council to . busine Coat d cilleould no
oeg t surote,apparentl bscribe to it.* •
forthe purpose of pub-
determine whether the question should be postponed or discussed.
Mr. cr'lly
Mr. Councillor EARLS wished to know the great object of iiely bringing forward the document alluded to.
postponement. It was a question which might easily be decided. The MAYOR said the tribUte of ' respect froni.the reporters, to
Uhl wish th at eomething more
Mr. Alderman BRowN apprehended that it was because there which Mr. Smith had alluded; was entirely a matter between
was business of a more pressing nature before them. If not, he those' entlemen aud himself, and which'he had acknowledged.
should say, go to the discussion at once. . Mee-or then bowed to the council and retired; and Mr.
Tho Mayor, said they had no more business before them than Ai‘lidi.e.romoaunnßrrowri,i‘tioKoikN tshaeidchlieaisrh.o
they could get through.
Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE would move that the substantial Should be, presented to the Mayer than the vote of
subject be proceeded with. They should have much business Ahanks,proposed. He had been thinkifig what it ought to be.
at their next meeting. .. , . The tie() paintings. which he saw in that room reminded him
On
Itile
the motiond division
s iwasot tsecondedappeared, by several mr
' be better to do this by individual subscription, and he should be
that the likeness of the first reform mayor ought to be taken,
pernrolc) ding, and ?S fur, and that the mayor be requested to sit for it. Perhaps it would
postponement.
ST. LUKE'S CHURCH. '. ' . ' .glad to subscribe his mite.
The MAYOR drew attention to anotheeeobeervation,Whiscie?lead , ~
A number of the members said they should be very glad, as
been made With regard to the sale of the advewson-of Si. in to subscribe tewarde neverec
Luke's Church. Mrecouncillor AMIN SMit he meant for one moment
eeres at n
~ne.e - _, -
Mr. Alderman FREMR.moved That that peeeteofe thaj!)ll,an.ce that oneleenny.shoulel.coine hem. the council.
Committee report be read. Mr. A.iderinan,Buoieei. hoped that the pubscription would not
,
The DePUTY TOWN CLERK then read the part of thrtepOrt ;be confined entirely to the council.,
alluded to,, which was, that the committee. be authorised to re 7, . , Mr.. Couneillor.Moiteciseer thought the subecriptieri,ought
Chic the highest bidding for the. advoweon of St. Luke's to be confined sort eta foams cOxinbil.' .. .., ~ ...
urch, to avoid the expense of adeertising. •Mr. Councilloe E. SMITH hoped it would not be necessary
Mr. Alderman FREME said that many of the Finance Com-- to go to London for an artist. There were many of greatabilitv
mittee were puite in the dark on the subject, and be would re- in the town. •
commend, as an amendment; that the advowson should be sold The TowN-cr.v.ex then read' the resolution.ref thanks to the
if within £2OO or 1.3(.10 of the valuation, and not leave the sub- Mayo Mr. r, which he had drawn up. '
ject indefinite.Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE begged to
move twat the
The MA YOR said the committee merely recommended that word "impartiality" be embodied in it.
the highest offer- should be accepted, as not any of the offers had The following resolution was then read by the Town-clerk
come up to the reserved bid. and unanimously adopted:—
The einance Committee proceedings were then confirmed, " That the most cordial thanks this of eouncil be presented
with the exception of the part relating to St. Thomas's Church. to William Wallace Currie, .E first sq ,
. mayor. of. Liverpool.
DOCK COMMITTRE. under the municipal reform act, for
, the zeal, impartiality,
Mr. Alderman Beowe called attention to the Dock Com- talents, and urbanity withwhich he hpresidedtheir de'
has over. -
mittee report, which had been presented on Saturday, to save liberations,
and has, throughout his mayoralty, maintained the
time. dignity of councilandadvanced the best •of
Mr. Councillor AIKIN, as chairman of the committee, said be • the interests the
borongh committed to his representation."
might offer some remarks on the lateness of bringing in the re- .
port, hut he believed it was matter of notoriety that the reason Apparently, eyerrgentleman' of the council then subscribed
why the committee had not made the report sooner was be- their names to a subscription list for the painting.
cause, as soon as they came from the very unprecedented strug- The followin gentlemen ware then elected as a committee
Ale in London, they found that applications were going on for carrying thei intentions of the council with regard to the
from the old trustees of the dock to the treasury, and they had Painting :—Messrs. Jerdan, John Holmes, Barclay, Aikin, and
delayed bringing forward the report, as they did not know what 'Faeleur, '
Mr
the result might be. He now brought forward the report pro-. Aikin and Mr. Jordan were then deputed to request
forma. One reason of his rising was to acknowledge the value- the attendance of the: Mayor.
ble services of gentlemen who were not on their committee. On e-entering the room, the Mayor was received by the
They had received most valuable aid from Mr. Barclay, Mr. council rising'
Boob), Mr. Maxwell (we understood,) Mr. Rathbone, and Mr. - .Mr. BROWN then said he was the organ of communicating to
. d.
Harvey. In alluding to the charge which had been brought him a resolntien to which the council had unanimously agree
against the members of that council, for inconsistency on the ,The TOWN-cep:ex then read over the above resolution.
mark
dock question, it had been brought against them because The MAYOR then said heJ)eggeil to thank them for trhis
h he bad
merly they were supporters of the claim made by the rate- of their approbation, and to assure- them that,
thou, r forget
payers to have a share in the management of the docks. The ceased to preside over - their counsels, he should n
that all he
charge of inconsistency so brought was not brought with fair- this tribute of their respect. He would also add
he had been
ness; because, at the time they were so claiming a share in the could have done would have been nothing unlet%n .
management for the rate-payers, it was on the principle that it so kindly and uniformly supported' in his regutlaer s
b Mayor, said,
was better to have the rate-payers as a constituency than no Mr. Alderman BROWN then, addiessing
a council, vet in
constituency at all. But now, when the system of.electing the though they could not act. in their capacity
requestastbat he would do
council was with the householders of the town, they were rather their individual capacity they had to .he artist to be deter-
too
consistent with the principle ofrepresentationto attempt
them the honour to sit for his portrait—t
his absence.
to confine it to the ' interested few. (Cries of "Hear.) mined upon by a committee appointed diiring
Mr. A [KIN said as one of the committee, they would consult
LIGHTING. e would wish this object
The MAYOR called attention to a remark of Mr. Groenn the desire of the 'Mayor as to the time h
Hoer, on the subject of the lightine rate for West Derby. to be carried into effect.
greatly affected, said he should
Mr. Councillor Cineeoe ',lour slid, the question he hid ask: The MAYOR, who appeared
ed was, whether these part of the t *1- vbich had not the certainly not refuse his concept to an application made in so
)01'014, I 1
advantage of lighting -shonsld': be' subject to the same rate as flattering and gratifying a manner to him—and so far beyond
be considered that he should be con-
those which had the advantage. ln many parts of West Derby, • •
his
deserts. In doing so •
record of the era which h
for instance, many of the inhabitants had no edeantage what- tributing to bane down a had called
;6 1 this
ever from lighting, and if would beta hardship upon them td them into existence. He attr—ute( honour merely to the
make them contribute the full rate without this advantage. accidental circumstance of his having presided over the first
The Toters,CeEek said, utitter the reselutfen of the Watch reform council.