The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1849-02-20 00:00:00

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LOCAL MEETINGS.

THE
00 ~ATER QUESTION.—PUBLIC MEETING.
'eg of itle"aY, a numerous and highly respectable meet-
kayo, inhabitants of Liverpool, convened by the
in compliance with a requisition signed by
Lliapei. (48,400 persons. was held in the Sessions-house,
of dela treet for the pur'nose of considering the propriety
t(44 With' the Rivingtori Pike scheme for supplying this
The AI N‘ater,
Pl.c'eeed,• 4.l°n occupied the chair, and, in opening the
el the clings, said he should abstain from taking any part
44 co scussi°n, but he must be understood as not being
43' re rn,Drornised, as regarded his own sentiments, by
sPeake:Ntion which would be proposed by the various
• he„s: the
claimed for every speaker a fair and impel.-
'essol ring, and if he should fail in securing that he would
ve the .
r. j. eeting.
JEFFERY protAged the first resolution,
,foatieiu the others as well as the amendments, will
Zke f °Ur advertising columns. After alluding to
;174;1tat".7.e early proceedings on the water question he
and td havel' was distinctly understood that the Pike scheme
the
sq the , the deliberate consideration of the authorities
• bio,n, and should not be necessarily included in,
'Lilt, a, The bill was viewed in two distinct shapes;
th bill for the purpose of laying the foundation on
pie~panie Council should proceed to purchase the old
if -„''s; and, second, to provide for an increased sup-
Ga'arer•s'arY• There was a resolution on the books of
'l7'iatir. 10n Society giving a deputation in London im-
Natise,,' instructions to oppose the bill, unless certain
Haase,,
Were altered • but the Town-clerk stated that if
lerce°P,,_sed the bil the op osition otherwise added,
'.that that the opposition would be fatal. He
ngernentcould be made between themselves
—`l /lot bpan
een
returned to Liverpool. These arrangements
thath ueen made, and he asked the meeting if that were
tliattkreach of faith ? (Cheers.) The speaker contended
4;41 Carst would be a million instead of half a million,
ef 404 although they could easily calculate the cost
seclat of pipes, they could not estimate so easily the
ll° I,"lPensation. After commenting upon Mr.ooo Wa e
es 's chancre of opinion as to the abundance
under 'the town, he referred to the
14ter44°us charges fixed upon by the committee for
For a house paying £BO, the yearly charge was
f1,t49„? a house of £Bl, £2 16. Bd.; for a house of
tlearr`i,•`‘, £5 14s. 3d. ; for a house of £l6l, £4 16s. 7d.
:mast B),:e!rt and laughter.) Now, as a business man, he
Lnat a document in which such anomalies could
teUtle7 not undergone due revision at the hands of the
;.',4Bide;e4,.'who said they had given to the question that
• thei '1,4"0n Which so momentous a question demanded.
tlettsBl.ol4ds• (Hear and applause.) After combatting
;les, rClen that the tradesmen of the town did not pay
'4)461'4 that their customers paid them, Mr. Jeffery
Atim,ed amidst the loudest cheering.
'rI°RNT IriNcH senior, in seconding the motion,
thefro), °ti; tul former o'casions, till within the last year or
bme7 had chosen their Town Councillors because
that pe;:etlged to this or that sect of religion, or to this or
-"r in politics. But they had grown a little wiser.
tesenwtelie determined, in future, to choose persons to re-
•4ettet• the opinions of the people who were to pay the
The (A.Pplause.)
bll4. resolution-having been put from the chair,
.je defiVIRROSE LACE rose to propose an amendment.
Itigthxied the Water Committee, and stated, at great
• the s taken to test whether there was a. suffi-
jkost. of Water in the red sandstone rock, and said the
.
echieedblinent scientific men of the day gave it as their
wader °Pinion that there was not a sufficiency of water
,wit„,tir feet. Bootle well bad been deepened 600 feet
finding more water and if they were to continue
Pa. 4-", water from the red' sandstone rock, they, would
mcra,.."° Put down a well whenever there was a large
the ei—v of the inhabitants. and they would thereby incur
.
ithey`fruer,eased expense of working, engines. &c., but if
„Le itie,‘ the water from Rivington, they would be enabled
'oo,croPJ 800,000 at the same cost as they could supply
'ltt.", with the addition only of the expense of the,
concluded by proposing the first amendment.
the tiENRY DANSON, in presenting himself to second
tad arnendluent, was received with loud groans, hisses,
sdh°th,er marks of disapprobation. He said so very much
this ;!,nad been cast on him for the part he had taken on
teeet,":.4 question, that he was not at all surprised at the
liAper,,'l°4 he had met with. He was aware that when he
,teerit'e.d there in the honest discharge of his duty, gentle-
•gught ask him why that same feeling did not actuate
day inattending to his duties at the Council, on Wednes-
firth, t. That was a subject upon which it would not be
tit4erto enter then, but he should be happy, at the right
.tieet,o to give every explanation to the Lime-street Ward
tive tr.s; therefore he trusted on that occasion they would
great''l4l an impartial hearing. He then proceeded at
1re".,„," length to speak of the decrease of the springs of the
ketisitittlwells and was frequently interrupted. His state-
-40,0 iat that was, perhaps, the last opportunity he
cheer li have of addressing them was received wi▪ th much
Ativ;:ng, and he sat down after denying that he had any
k„`e,Object in view in the course he had adopted.
Aress nOSERT BRYDRN showed how the water-rates op-
nitltlY bore upon tbe licensed victuallers.
ttrere MAYOR then put the amendment, for whi▪
ch about
Was•ve hands only were held up. The original motion
hold then carried almost unanimously, only a. few hands
rte,;!, held up against it. The result was hailed by tre-
lrus cheering, which lasted for some time.
841," J. A. Pic.rox proposed the next resolution. After
$41," the advocates of the Pike scheme credi for their
tielf, intentions, and claiming the same credit for him-
fro" said he did not see why those who chose t.. 0 differ
ttlogi the late Water Committee, and to demand inquiry,
Ittel'hl, be called fools and knaves, persons having no
'Villedge of the subject at all. Mr. had said,
04.'3' want an investigation? there. has already been
had be They, had had such an investigation as he presumed
411c,,,en satisfactory to Mr. Lace's mind, but he must be
he,...eu to say that the public were not satisfied. That
Position of parties. Now, what kind of investi-
tio befall they had ? They had had, first, an investiga.
the ore the Commissioners of Inquiry ; and what was
as re,,Dnelusion they had come to ? They stated they had
loks`eson to come to any other conclusion than that there
the sufficient supply of water under our feet. That was
kitt Pst investigation. The second was before the Com-
tte e the House of Commons. How did the town
'1 then ? (Hear.) The Town Council had determined
A It-!°eCute the bill for authorising the Rivington scheme.
side,,„e4 number of persons, it seemed mistakenly so, con-
deN•cui that the Pike. scheme was only to be a sort of
t „, er resort —that if it w to be on
-.ea .
stif4 .e enquiry and practical testing,found thathereafter, we hed not
.114,1ent water in the sandstone, we had the bill in our
the t° go elsewhere, enlarge our borders, and carry out
ult,t,.,e!'enie that offered. (Hear.) With regard to the.
thre":"gations before the House of Commons, there were
~*llO-f,Parties concerned in it. The Water Committee,
etre`right or wrong) had the bill to carry, went to Par-
tqnt to effect that object, and well the Town-clerk
Ao:1 in obtaining it. The cost he would say nothing
such it might be £20,000 or £30,000. Now, under
tirrk'''eurnstances, what kind of evidence did the Town-
Notequire ? Did he want the evidence of impartial
who No : the kind of witnesses he wanted were men
loll,reuld take one side of the question, and conscien-
N Y Another
because they had never looked at the othfr
'lT'lnother of the parties who had a locus stanch in
•""Aos, hPlise of Commons were all the landowners and
‘Qty—acturers about Rivington Pike • he might say that
Niti,ere like " pikes" waiting for plunder. They were
Zll4lO for compensation for this and that, in every con-
'assalSShae. After alluding to the statement that there
knt(tes
tie tin the water' dto the quantity of water said to
.1... ,

him, of incalculable supplies of water having just been
found within the margin of the borough. He stated that
the support which he had given to the Pike scheme re-
garded that scheme as an auxiliary, if it were required,
and showed the necessity of the caution, nevertheless,
given lrst April, to prevent the unnecessary expenditu-e
of vast sums t,f ihoney, ;lode, the rszt had been obtained.
ue proceeded to comment on some of the clauses of the
act, which he declared the worst specimen of legislatiori
which the " wisdom" of Parliament had ever perpetrated.
Mr. PILCHER seconded the resolution.

Mr. Wm. EARLE now rose to address the meeting, and
was received with much hissing and other marks of dis-
approbation. After they had subsided, he proceeded to
say that when the act of parliament was obtained upon
which Mr. Smith had commented in a manner which the
meeting might call humourovs, but which he called great
ignorance. (Great hissing and groans, which lasted for
some time, and cries of " Sit da'w'n l")
Mr. HAIGH.—I beg to rise to order. Ido not think it
is decent for eny one to offer such terra's of opprobrium to
any gentleman before a meeting over which the mayor is
presiding, and 1 submit it to the mayor whether he will
allow such observations to proceed.

The MAYOR.—Mr. Earle has consented to withdraw
the offensive term.

Mr. EARLE.--I merely wished to say that Mr. Smith
had treated the subject in a manner which showed
that he did not understand it. tCries of " Oh! oh !") lie
did not think that the proceedings of that day would re-
dound much to the credit of the ratepayers, of Liver-
pool. (Great uproar.) Mr. Earle then went on to con-
demn the opposition which had been offered by the rate-
payers, but was listened to with much impatience. After
some further remarks of a personal nature, Mr. Earle
began to refer to the statement which had appeared in the
Mercury against himself and other members of the late
Water Committee, observing that he would refer to Mr.
Smith a little more, and endeavour to transfer to him a
little of the odium which he had thrown upon his (Mr.
Earle's) friend, and on their excellent friend Mr. Rath
bone. Who could accuse him of any want of patience ?
He had gone through two years of the eternal twaddle
of the Mercury. (Laughter.) Mr. Smith bad given
them some choice extracts from the act of parliament,
and he (Mr. Earle) would venture to give them some ex-
tracts from that paper. (Hear.) After reading some
extracts, in which the Pike scheme was spoken of favour-
ably, he asked if there was ever anything so contemptible?
(Laughter.) He wondered they could laugh at it. From
the commencement of the proceedings on the water busi-
ness, to April 7, 1848, he challenged any gentleman to
find a word against the scheme in the Liverpool Mercury.
On the contrary, every thing in its favour was given with
a high colouring. (Hisses, and great interruption.)

The C FIAIRAaN 'was here appealed to as to whether
Mr. Earle was in order, when he replied that he thuught
Mr. Earle was as much within the question as any speaker
that had gone before. It was in all respects a case analo-
gous to that of Mr. Hol'ne who had been accused of
changing his opinion. Mr. Smith was charged with a
similar change of opinion, and Mr. Earle was perfectly in
order.

Mr. EARLE then continued. He contended that it was
in April that the National Confederation laid the ground-
work of the opposition to the Pike scheme, which was
followed up by the editors of the Mercury. The Con-
federation pulled the strings and the Mercury answerecUo
them. (Hear, hear, and-laughter.) From that time to
the present there had been scarcely anything but abuse of
the Water Committee and the Pike scheme. There had
been letters inserted for and against. He (Mr. Earle) did
not deny that ; but if they would look at the paper it
would be found that the remarks showed the bias of the
editor's mind was against the water scheme. In one paper
there was that story about the Manchester Water-works
which had been so fully and ably answered by other
gentlemen. (Cries of " Speak out ?") Mr. Earle : " I
will if I can, but it is a difficult thing to speak to such
scrubfire people as I see before me." (Hear.) He
then quoted a paragraph from a paper of November
last, wherein it was stated that the system pursued for
some time back at the waterworks had been to withhold
the supply from the inhabitants. It was well known that
everything of that kind was false, and he would be glad
to know if Mr. Smith could have a high respect for his
character if he thought him capable of doing a thing of
that kind. He would ask him that, and that was one of
the remarks of which he had to complain.
Mr. SMITH.-1 am here to explain. (Applause.)
Mr. EARLE.—(pointing to the witness-box where Mr.
Smith was sitting)—That is a witness-box, and every man
coming there does so because he thinks he has some most
important information to give. Mr. Smith has plaCed
himself in that box because he considers himself superior.
I have seen that gentleman act the Roman senator.
(Laughter, and cries of " Shame, shame.")

The MAYOR called Mr. Earle to order.
Mr. EARLE said he was merely going to pass a compli-
ment. (Loud laughter.) He had shown up Mr. Smith
pretty well he hoped, and if he were them he would be
very careful how he placed any faith in Jack in the box
again. (Roars of laughter.) He conceived that by
passing the proposed resolution they would exonerate
certain gentlemen from paymentof a sum of money, and
make themselves liable for that which Mr. Booker, Mr.
Harbord, and others were now responsible for. ( " Yes,
yes.") He urged them not to do so, as if they did, they
would, as men of business, be guilty of an act of folly.
(Laughter.)
Mr. Councillor PARKER briefly addressed the meeting.
Mr. W. RATKBONE said, that after forty years of pub-
lic service in the cause of his fellow-townsmen, he had a
right to ask of Mr. John Smith why he puts in the Mer-
cury " that the late water committee had been parties to
one of the grossest jobs that ever was perpetrated," and

he uppeLled to him whether any newsvender, I
not call it the press, had a right to use in reference to one
who was going down to his grave, such language as that.
He valued their good opinion as much as any man, and
felt pleased at the manner in which his services had, on
various occasions, been acknowledged, but he would never
be so base as to be influenced, when he knew he was
justified in the course he took, by that self-inflated man
who sat before the desk. (Mr. Smith.) (Hear, hear,
and cries of " Shame.") [The Mayor here interfered ;
and after speaking a word_ or two to Mr. Rathbone, he
consented to withdraw the expression he had made use of
in reference to Mr. Smith.]
Mr. JOHN SMITH rose to read some of the observations
made by Mr. Earle and Mr. Rathbone. It was rather
strange that Mr. Earle always thought the Mercury a
good paper so long as it agreed with him in his views, but
no sooner did it oppose him than he denounced him in
the terms he had done that day. (Hear, hear, and laugh-
ter.) He (Mr. Smith) had never cast stones at any one,
but when he was assailed he would defend himself. The
extracts which Mr. Earle had read from the Mercury
could be readily justified. Those sentiments were ex-
pressed when the bill was believed to be a good one, from
the opinion expressed by others, and before its provisions
had been inquired into. It was at that time understood
to be merely accessary, and its provisions only to be acted
upon in case the present sources of supply were proved to
be inadequate.
The CHAIRMAN put the resolution, which was carried
by an overwhelming majority, amidst loud applause.

solicitor to the Chorley Waterworks Comiany, complain-
ing of the Liverpool Corporation having violated the con-
tract which.they had entered into. The letter stated that
the company, in consequence of surrendering their water
rights to the Corporation, and for issuing to the company
the specified supplies from the Rivington reservoir, had
actually purchased from Mr. Crosse the additional land
required for filter beds, and to have them finished at a
cost of £lBOO. This would have been unnecessary under
their plant and formed no part of it. Besides
this, a tunnel would have io firmed from the reservoir
at Chorley to Anglesark, at a cost of £2OOO. The 41600,
. intended in part to meet these charges, which was to have
been paid in Jannary 1848, had not been received. The
writer concluded by saying, " The company protests
against the assumption that a change in the members of
the Common Council justifies their breaking through the
positive engagements of their predecessors. We should
have been ashamed to justify such a breach of contract
on our part by pleading a new election of directors ; and
I am reluctantly obliged to add, that unless the arrange-
ment with the Chorley company be promptly completed,
in its original spirit and terms, it will be difficult here-
after to place implicit confidence in what has hitherto not
been questioned—the fair dealing and honour of the Li-
verpool Corporation."—A letter from Mr. Brownlow,
solicitor for certain landowners in the neighbourhood of
Rivington, stated that unless the works were at once pro-
ceeded with, proceedings would immediately be taken
against the Liverpool Town Council. Several other let-
ters and communications in connexion with the Riving-
ton works were read.—The committee recommended that
Mr. Simpson be instructed to enter into a general exami-
nation of the water supply to Liverpool, including the
arrangements in connexion with the Rivington project;
and that he be also instructed to institute an investiga-
tion into the capabilities of the red sandstone and wells
in the neighbourhood of Liverpool. The proceedings,
which were exceedingly voluminous, included many
other particulars, amongst them the financial position of
the Water Committee, as drawn up by Mr. Harbord,
from which it appeared that for the current year the pro-
bable expenditure would be in excess of the receipts.—
Mr. Bennett moved, and Mr. Wagstaff seconded, the
confirmation of the proceedings.—A long discussion took
place, in which Messrs. G. H. Lawrence, Parker, Tinne,
S. Holme, Harbord, Jas. Holme, and Cooper, took part.
—Mr. S. Holme, in a speech of some duration, vindicated
Mr. Hawksley from the observations.in reference to him,
which had been made by Mr. Bennett. Mr. Holme then
referred at length to the contracts for piping, &c., in
connexion with the Rivington works, and stated his be-
lief that if they were not carried out the consequence
would eventually be an expense to the Corporation of
several thousand pounds.—Mr. Bennett replied, and
stated, in answer to Mr. Tinne and Mr. S. Holme,• that
there was no wish on the part of the present Water Com-
mittee to repudiate the contracts already entered into.
The committee, on the other hand, had endeavoured to
facilitate the delivery of the pipes, in their instructions
to Mr. Hawksley ; but they, after all, had found a great
difficulty in getting them -delivered. On a former occa-
sion Mr. Nicol had said that 2,000 tons were ready for
delivery, but the committee had now ascertained that not
more than 90 tons were cast.—The proceedings of the
committee were then confirmed.—A letter from Mr.
Scott, in answer to the call made upon him to proceed
with his defence to the charges made against him before
the committee of inquiry, was read. It contained a re-
fusal to proceed with his defence before the committee as
now constituted; and requesting that if he was to go on
with his defence, engineers who had had no connexion
with the works should be called in.—After some discus-
sion, Mr. Bennett admitted that the Water Commitee
had come to the conclusion to recommend to the Council
Mr. Scott's discharge, in consequence of the insulting
letter made use of by him.—Upon the motion of Mr. G.
H. Lawrence, the letter was referred to the favourable
consideration of the Water Committee.

After some other business, the Council broke up at a
quarter before five o'clock.

THE ROSCOE CLUB

One of the prominent vehicles employed by this insti-
tution for conveying instruction and amusement to its
members, is the Discussion Society. This branch of the
club meet periodically in a large and elegant room in the
upper part of the premises. when a paper is read by some
one of the members, the subject of which is afterwards
discussed generally. One of these conversaziones was
held last Friday evening, at which a large number of
members were present. it had been arranged prior to
the meeting that Dr. Hume should preside on the occa-
sion, an arrangement to which the learned doctor ac-
ceded ; he was, however, prevented attending in time to
open the proceedings, and consequently Mr. Esdaile, a
gentleman who has frequently presided on former occa-
sions, was requested to take the chair. Dr. Hume sub-
sequently came into the room, and entered cordially into
the spirit of the evening's business.
The paper perused was one on the " Minor Poets of
the Present Day," by Mr. W. F. BLOXAM. It went, to
shew that a vast amount of poetry was to be found float-
ing through the periodical literature of the day, and that
this poetry oftentimes possessed in an eminent degfee all
the essentials of true poetry, although traced by unknown
hands, and, from the ephemeral nature of the channels
which conveyed it to the world, most likely doomed to
neglect and an early tomb. The value of verses of merit
appearing before the public in the way spoken of was
inferred from the fact, that some of the productions of
our most eminent poets were but the elaborations of un-
pretending attempts suggested by trivial circumstances,
and intended only for the passing moment. The " Rape
of the Lock," and Thomson's " Castle 'of Indolence,
were given as instances of what might possibly be the
result of an unpremeditated and unpretending attempt;
the former having been suggested by the desire, on the
part of the author, to cement a difference existing be-
tween two families,—and the latter extending out of a
brief comnosition suggested by a lady reclining on a sofa.
The first illustration had been taken from some periodical,
and consequently its author was unknown: it was entitled
" A Voice from Nature." A production of Mr. Murray's
followed ; the subject was Lady Godiva's famed ride
through Coventry, which.natural ..yn
eßgooLUti rererence
to the production of T lennyson, who was justly appreci-
ated as a poet; and a resemblance, not to the latter's
disadvantage, was indicated in the pupil's production.
Mr. Bloxam here incidentally touched on the depraved
taste that led the public to patronise those exhibitions
known as Poses Plastiques, whose enormity was aggra-
vated by the pretence that they served to inculcate a cor-
rect appreciation of all that is beautiful and artistic. In
corroboration of his views, Mr. B. referred to a notice on
this subject in the Athenwum, which journal excuses it-
self from noticing them, from a consideration that such
would be the very means to perpetuate their success,
as giving them the plea of persecution. Reverting to
his subject, the le'turer read some touching lines, entitled
" Anacreon's Grave," the singularity of which was that
they were the production of a madman, an inmate of the
asylum under the superintendence of Dr. Crighton, who
conducts a periodical entitled the " New Moon," to which
the hapless inmates contribute. " The Heart's Lesson,"
from the Manchester Examiner, followed, affording the
reader an opportunity of passing a high eulogium on the
conductors of this paper. In alluding to the Irish melo-
dies the name of Moore stood first, and the unfortunate
-Gavan Duffy was classed among that description of poets
on which the paper professed to treat. Some verses by a
Catholic priest, entitled " The Bells of Shandon," were
read. Shandon is a small village on the banks of the Lee,
a river flowing near Cork. Barry Cornwall, Dr. Mackay;
and Lytton Bulwer, were referred to. In speaking of the
latter, a remarkable instance of his precocity of genius
was adduced in the fact of his having composed verses
when no more than six years old. Mr. Bloxam went on
to inquire what were the characteristics of the men whose
names had been brought forward, and he was of opinion
that in their poetic productions shone forth all the essen-
tials observable in the writings of the great poets. Some
encomiums were paid to the "truthfulness" of modern
poetry, and the contributions in Punch were instanced,
amongst them those of " Jacob Omnium." The earnest-
ness displayed by Mr. Cobden in his pursuit of the great
measure which he had obtained was not greater than that
evinced by Ebenezer Elliott ; nor is Lord Ashley more
earnest in seeking out the destitute, and dragging them
within the sphere of knowledge and industry, than was
Hood when he penned the " Song of the Shirt."
The paper being read, Mr. Mott proposed a yote of
thanks to the author, the proposition was seconded and
iiiried with unanimity and spirit.
Mr. BOULT thought that though Mr. Bloxham had
entered fully into the subject, it was, one of so diffuse a
nature that it had not been exhausted, and probably the
writer might be induced to bring-out a supplement to his

Tor men innanitant per nay, ne saict mations
.obfig° aZ had been attributed in speech and writing to those
ey ,;'ed for inquiry. It was said it was not inquiry
l'tj; anted ;—that they wanted to burke and altogether
I,r.°w th Rivington scheme. Now, personalty, he
1 Ifet.en) denied the imputation. He said, let us have
1;34 %e au', free and impartial inquiry, and caredv
nno.t
Otqii .!,'sult—whether water was brought fro.mdß, i g
t;',1114 be or elsewhere, he, as a humhle ivlidual,
tr',e; i,„u,e satisfied. The Pike scheme might be a good
CketZ,G we would not have it on compulsion. He re-
., ii`it a story told of a good lady who wished to
411, 'di. eon's attention from the gay world. She said,—
, and son, don't mix in gay society : I have done
imotile'ru
vseen the folly of it." He answered,—" Well,
111)144,2 A Wish to see the fol of it too." (Laughter and
,'e.) Now, the gentlemen on the other side with
,114:vv'talawe
ethe folly of the views that others held—they
ki",dst,„ 'ony_of attempting to get water out of the red
Y ofge• Well, we might answer, allow us to see the
er attempting it. (Laughter and applause.)
14.`401.1A.s Avisort seconded the resolution, and
to 0( ,thought the Water Bill, considering that one-
as bt"c 133 clauses were compensation clauses., ought
" A bill of pains and penalties against the
tlifliCS'3.l. Corporation." (Laughter and applause.)
AidUEL HOLME, in an eloquent speech, defended
gth. scheme and the late Water Committee. at great
lie admitted he had changed his opinion as to
.lt.'licieTtitY of water under the town of Liverpool, and
iit'plato-riunnself for so doing. As to the cost of the
works, he had himself looked over the details
I.,,4llnates, and_he pledged his honour as a trades-
vs,"°wing something of such estimates, that if the
qq'iofetrno-inorrow to be advertised we should find a
etti ivowriway contractors of the highest respectability
tVaate execute the work at twenty per cent below the
Was He alluded to the general water act, and said
k." in ;9 a clause in it preventing them from sinking a
neighbourhood without giving compensation
A0(44.41137 deprived of water. (Hear, hear.) If the
40, e„,ic'n went to West Derby or elsewhere to sink
loltll;,,erj individual whose private well might be af-
Vi4rlg that proceeding would have a right to an action
kt etlee
tviclt atlieS against the corporation.. Mr.
.Holme then
from the
length into the question, sheaving
many highly respectable and impartial gentle-
Abpsufficient water was not obtainable under the
N' t 4 be hat that abundance of the purest and softest water
rp)4‘t Alv,,l'c'eured by the proposed scheme.
43' ti,4hile,ernla/1 COOPER seconded the amendment, and
that the inhabitants would save considerably
• Vt't the Rivington water. They would have less to
44ter and it would be more abundant and pure:
1114t:hl'Ilt 11:143,,,..ean replied to one or two questions which
part
r. S. Holme, and then stated as a fact that
‘,`kriOt r "Zen sold the water-.works to the Corporation
-`ra,sillerieFtved their bonds in accordance with the Act of
11111',A,,,.' and that they would have to go to Chancery
k4eati.l;l°.,to get themselves. righted.
°,litinin,mment and original motion were then put to
tit 411%,, with' when the original motion was carried unani-
)i 404 acclamation.
,tlt ni•N'„SuiTH proposed the third resolution. The
;,Leis resolution, Mr. Smith observed, would
. ppott to the present determination of the
tOe teith 1. which that body had a right to expect.
tatid lireplied to many of the arguments of Mr.o
14„1'44tiietir• S. Holnle, and reminded the meeting f_
1/4AtLtlspra-tlq opinions of scientific men in the case of
s chemical works, the steam navigation of
" B‘C.l and adduced evidence, just handed to

Mr. BLOXHAM, in returning thanks for the honour
which had just been shewn to him, agreed that he had by
no means exhausted his subject, which he promised to
return to on a future occasion.

At this stage of the proceedings, in accordance with
the usual custom, coffee and tea were introduced, and the
company simultaneously with the appearance of these
revivifying beverages, sank the form of meeting, and
entered into social discussion on topics having reference
to the subject propounded to them on the paper which
had been read.

THE LIVERPOOL CHESS CLUB.—The tenth annual
meeting of this intellectual society was held on Wednes-
day evening, at the Adelphi Hotel. Owing to the Birken-
head, and the Chatham Society soiree, happening on the
same evening, the attendance was not very large. Mr.
Mongredien being absent, Mr. G. S. Spreckley, the se-
cretary of the Liverpool Club, occupied the chair, sup-
ported in the vice-chair by Mr. Schwabe. After the re-
past, the Chairman proposed " Prosperity and permanence
to the Club," which he introduced in a very happy man-
ner. After alluding to political events on the continent,
which had been too exciting to allow much time for chess,
he said that the challenge from the Roscoe Club had led
to Monday (yesterday) being appointed for a match to be
played, in which he was to give the odds of pawn and
move to their playing committee. This was the twelfth year
of the society, and he entertained no fear of its permanence.
It was encouraging to observe that some of the new
members showed a talent for the game that promised soon
to place them above many of their veterans, unless these
derived fresh vigour from emulation. As regarded the
prosperity of pounds, shillings, and pence, they had no
reason to complain. Their numbers might vary from
year to year, and their revenue fluctuate with their num.
hers • but their Chancellor of the Exchequer, who now
faced him, had hitherto so arranged his budget that he
had avoided the necessity of contracting loans. The
toast was drunk with enthusiasm. A number of other
appropriate toasts, conveyed in complimentary terms,
followed, and were ably responded to. These included
" The President of the club ; " " Mr. Howard Staunton,"
the celebrated English player ; " Mr. Spreckley ; " " The
Vice-Chairman ;" The Liverpool Press ;" " Mr. Perigal
and the London Chess Club ;" The Visiters ;" "The
Ladies," &c. Between the speeches the company were
enlivened by songs. it was not until a late hour that
the room presented the appearance of 41- banquet-hall
deserted

TITHE REDEMPTION TRUST. Ido according as he is disposed in his heart unto the hear.) He traced the history of the laws, and explained
A meeting of the Liverpool Branch Association, in aid Lord." He felt assured, at the same time, that as there their operation. As our commerce spreads, and our
of the Tithe Redemption Trust, was held, on Wednesday we- • •d•
.
stillliad attacked'
the principles on which they were
-a a growing feeling in the minds of many, amounting colonies increase, he admitted they would need m d'fi
igna on, at the thought of . _ . ; there were never any. statesmen till the present
o i ca..
afternoon, in the Savings Bank, Bold-street. After the almost .4(' in.. hhadbeen
a committed
mthme
Imtteardcillaestsmanada
natioanaswho
hberiteis which
reading of the appointed prayer, by the Rev. Mr. Pollock, shameless re.. . , • • andbased.
-nues set apart for religious chart-e. In the late debate there was not a single member
The Venerable Archdeacon BROOKS stated that the past upon the rev wit!, an increasing feeling of un- of the House of Commons who had touched on the sub-
object of the meeting was to take advantage of the visit table purposes, so there"'
of the noble president of the trust to Liverpool, by giva easiness in the breasts e. ect h
many wealthy individuals j ,x o showed that he understood it. [Laughter and
ing members an opportnnity of obtaining any further in- amongst the impropriators thOlsplves, which rendered applause.) They had confused the navigation laws with
formation of the details than was afforded them at the them not only willing but anxious to exchange such spe- the revenue laws of the country, and with the registry act
time when the branch association was first formed ; but, cies of property for far less than an eqw7 o
alert. Though
_f this country,—three totally distinct things. (Applause.)
before requesting from Lord John Manners the favour of they might not themselves be personally cha: :erible with If with the repeal of the navigation laws other countries
those explanations to which he referred, he would call any guilt as holders of such possessions, inasmuch :.:4 they didnot reduce their tariff upon our goods, we would be
upon the rev. secretary to speak to the general objects had been purchased or handed down from generation it, clieek-rnated at every turn. There was a cunning item in
4.
and principles of the trust. generation under the sanction of law, yet they felt that ,he pregent proposition. Mr. Labouchere said care would
The Rev. WILLIAM POLLOCK said that his brother See- they were occupying sites, and reaping fields, which it be taken that the Queen in Council should have the pri-
retary, Dr. Trench, and he had ventured to convene this were better far that no secular proprietor should presume vilege of retaliating upon the countries who did not reci-
meeting, both because they felt that it was impossible to 'to call his own. Yes, he maintained, lovely as were some procate with as. But (continued Mr. Chapman) will you
sustain public interest. in any object, however excellent, of those sites, and prolific as were some of those fields, trust the present members ?•--men who are now subsisting
without reporting progress, from time to time,' to its sup- they could not be viewed with entire complacency by their upon the vile wages of political prostitution. Will you
porters, and also especially because they believed that they earnest and right minded possessors, seetat that "sacrilege" trust them, or their schoolmasters ? [A. voice, " the
were bound to take advantage, for this purpose, of the was written upon them all in character& of fire. Combining, Anti-Corn-law League. 'T] No ; their first schoolarasters
presence of the noble chairman of the Tithe Redemption then, these two facts, or rather theseevraclasses of feeling were the gentlemen who got into the Board of Trade.
Trust, Lord John Manners, in Liverpool. It would be —the readiness of some to contribute to the restoration And who were those gentlemen ? Gentlemen who, as
remembered that, at their previous meeting, certain diffi- of church property, and the anxiety of others to rid them- merchants and tradesmen, could not conduct their own
culties had been started with regard to their general under- selves of it, even at a considerable sacrifice—lie could not business rightly ; they were all of them bankrupts
taking,- and several inquiries made concerning it; and that but see reason to hope that much- might hereafter be ac- or insolvents. One of them, Mr. Porter, was, he be-
he (Mr. P.) and others had then endeavoured to reply cotnplished by comparatively small, but gradualfrincreas. lieved, a respectable gentleman, and he should not say
according to their ability. But although their answers ing means. much of him. But there was Mr. Macgregor, the in-
appeafed- to have given general satisfaction, still he was The resolution was carried unanimously. structor of Sir Robert Peel. He was well known in
very happy to be able to refer any gentleman who might The thanks of the meeting to Lord John Manners were Liverpool. After pursuing his studies at Prince Ed_
still desire further information to Lord John Manners, then proposed, in appropriate speeches by the Rev. efe. ward Island, he had become a shipbuilder, and was
whose position in the Trust naturally made him acquainted Pollock, seconded by the Rev. Mr. Bold, and unanimously unsuccessful in that pursuit. Then he wrote a book
with all its details, and whose head and heart were alike carried. -upon Protection, and came over to Liverpool and
full of its objects, its principles, and its operations. Lord JOHN MANNERS said he did not feel in the least started as a merchant. In Liverpool he did net remain
Before sitting down, he (Mr. P.) would only further ob- worthy of the compliment that had been paid him, which over twelve months till he was again bankrupt - and
serve that having bestowed a great deal of anxious thought indeed was due, as he had previously explained, to Mr. there were many living at the present day who could tell
on the subject of the Trust, both before and since their Malet alone; but he would take the opportunity the en- us a tale that would not redound much to his credit.
last meeting, he was bound to-say that the more he con- merited kindness of the meeting had afforded him to refer (Applause.) It was sufficient for him to say that he had
sidered it, the more it commended itself to his conscience to the indirect beneficial influence which the society would failed and paid one penny-halfpenny in the pound.—
and his judgment; and the more he felt it to be entitled possibly exercise on the conduct of those tithe holders (Laughter and loud applause.) But be did worse. He
to the cordial confidence and support of all true church- who might be unable or unwilling to join in their opera- was guilty of a transaction in this place which, had it
men. Was it a fact that in above 4,660 parishes, property tions. The responsibility which weighed upon them as come before the present Commissioners- of Bonkroptcy,
amounting to more than one million and a half yearly holders of such property might thus be brought home to would, he was satisfied, have rendered him liable to a
had been alienated from the church, to whose service'it their convictions, and the church, school, or almshouse severe reprimand ; and he questioned mach whether the
had been consecrated by the piety of our forefathers ? receive an increased support in this manner. Lord John commissioners would not have carried out the law to its.
Then it was a holy purpose to endeavour to restore again concluded by proposing the thanks of the meeting to the very utmost extent. (Laughter and applause.) NoW, it
to the treasury of God, what, he could not help saying, Venerable Archdeacon for his kindness in presiding over was to such men as these that we had entrusted our legise
had been sacrilegiously abstracted from it, Was it the the meeting, and the ability with which he directed the lation• There was another gentleman, a hatter, his name
case that there existed on all sides the most fearful spirt- proceedings. There was not a gentleman present, nor was Wilson,latelyeditoroftheEconomise who nowreceived
teal destitution ; and that we were compelled to resort one in Liverpool, he felt convinced, who did not wish £12,00 or £15,00 a year, as secretary to the Board of
for its relief to the agencies of such societies as the Church their respected rector a long and extended career of use- Control. He had compounded with his creditors at 10s.
Pastoral Aid Society, and the Additional Curates Society, fulness in that sphere of action which he had for so many in the Pound, and had ruined many poor people in Stock-
not to speak of the expedients adopted by the Ecclesiasti. years filled with such benefit to the church, and such Port and elsewhere. (Laughter and applause.) As to
cal Commissioners, and a vast amount of private effort. honour to himself. Cobden, he would not allude to him, as the meeting knew
And yet it was confessed that after all the resources Mr. Ceseeeeme said he had much pleasure in second- him sufficiently already, as a ruined calico printer
of the church were utterly inadequate to the supply of the , ing the vote of thanks to their venerable chairman, for and pensioned aeitator. Mr. Chapman continued his
demands upon her ministrations. Then surely every one whom he, in common with all other inhabitants of Liver- remarks on the Navigation Laws, and asked if we were to
must see that the remedy, which was at once the most pool, entertained the highest respect. be taxed to keep up a navy •to protect the shipping of
natural and effective, would be found in the restoration to The Venerable the ARCHDEACON expressed, in very foreigners, for that he said
was an office we performed at
the church of that property, by the loss of which she had touching language, his acknowledgment of the compli- present. If the Queen sanctioned the repeal of the Na-
become thus impoverished, and unequal to the discharge ment which had been paid to him. He said he had vigation Laws, he had no hesitation in saying that it
of the obligations which devolved upon her. On this always great pleasure in presiding over any meeting in would be as fraught with eviland disaster to her family as
ground alone he felt himself hound to forward the objects which the high and holy interests of the church were was the act of Charles the First, when he sacrificed his
of the Tithe Redemption Trust by every means in his concerned, *and more especially on those occasions where minister and aigned the death warrant of Strafford. It
power. But it had other claims on his support, in the men of all opinions met together and consented in a corn- had long been his opinion that the days we were in were
excellency of its principles and arrangements. It was mon movement. For himself, he was quite sure that, if somewhat analagous ,to those of Charles the First. At
impossible, for instance, that they, could be promoting the they would but meet more frequently, they would find that time Republicanism appeared under the guise of
ends of-the vendor of tithes, inasmuch as it was not that a great many of their supposed divisions would vanish, Puritanism ; now it appears under the guise of free-trade.
intended to offer in any instance the full market price, but and that after all there were few differences among them. (Hear, and applause.) There could not be a doubt (Mr.
simply to take advantage of such cases as presented, The meeting then separated, many clergymen and gen- Chapman said) that the object of Cobden was to bring
whether from the scruples of the tithe-holder, or other tlemen having become additional subscribers to the asso- ruin on class after class, to unnationalise this country,
circumstances, peculiar facilities of redemption. It was ciation. Among the gentlemen present, we observed the and to break the people's
_spirits, so that at last they
equally impossible that their proceedings could assist. the Lord John Manners, Archdeacon Brooks, Rector Campbell,. would.be so discontented and miserable, that they would
selfishinterests of the patron, by increasing the value of the rectors of West Derby and Walton, the Rev. Messrs. be indifferent to what takes place ; and the consequence
the advowson, because in all cases of private patronage an Warre, Marshall, Cowan, Cyrus Morrell, Grier, Wray? would be civil war, anarchy, and the destruction of every
equivalent must be subscribed by the patron before the Pain, Pollock, Nolan, Bold, Jones, Bowman, Power, thing that we hold dear ! (Applause.) If the Navigation
trust could interfere for the augmentation of the living ? Hassall, Campbell, Martin, Burton, Brancker. Carpenter, Laws were repealed, the workhouse was staring us in the
Again, if the benefice to which tithes were to be restored Higgins, Slater, Ould, and Lawrence ; as, also, Dr. face. Mr. Chapman concluded by calling on the meeting
was already sufficiently endowed, then the recovered tithes M`Naught, Dr. Trench, and Messrs. Brercton, Tobin, to back the House of Lords.
would not be given to the mother church, but to such new -Donison, Castellain, Molyneux, Thomas Bold, Naylor, Mr. FISHER explained that while we were professing to
district churches as might have arisen in the parish, and Edward Banner, Slater, &c., &c. act on the principles of free trade, we were doing quite
stand in need of aid. This case was provided for in their the reverse, as the goods from Cuba in British ships were
regulations, the consent of the bishop being obtained ; THE NAVIGATION LAWS. made to pay nearly double those brought in foreign ships.
so that they would be assisting in proper cases in the A meeting of the Toxteth Park branch of the Liverpool The free-trade reciprocity was all on one side. He might
popular object of a better distribution of church property. Constitutional Association was held on Friday night, ,at also state that the Americans had come to the determine-
And lastly, it was wholly impossible that the operations the Toxteth-hall, for the purpose, as stated in the pia- tion that all the railway iron •which they required should
of the trust could be abused for party purposes. Of this card, of organizing a defence of the Navigation Laws, not be carried in any 'but British bottoms. He argued
the names of those constituting the board ought to be a and strengthening the hands of such of the legislature as that free trade was synonymous with low wages, and was
sufficient guarantee, representing as they did, every variety are opposed to so destructive and anti-British a measure highly prejudicial to all classes, more especially to the
of opinion entertained by churchmen. But further they as the repeal of those laws. The room was filled to over- Poor man. •
did not seek to recover tithes for Mr. A. or Mr. 8., the flowing, there being about five hundred persons present. Mr. BUCKLEY JONES, in proposing a vote of thanks to
high churchman or low churchman. It was for the advan- R. L. JONES, Esq., was called to the chair. the chairman, balled attention to tl
tage of the parish, not for that of the individual incum-
bent, whatever his opinions might be, that their efforts
were undertaken ; while they stripped -themselves at the
same time of all patronage, that fruitful source of party
strife, For himself, he (Mr. P.) felt persuaded that the
present movement, so far from increasing their divisions,
might rather do much toward healing them, presenting,
as it did in his mind, a most felicitous opportunity for
combining the energies and uniting the hearts of church-
men. He could not but hope also that the very agitation
of the question of tithe redemption might produce very
valuable results in the public mind

Lord JOHN MANNERS said that, after Mr. Pollock's
lucid statement, he had little to add, more especially as
Mr. Malet's letter to Lord Lyttleton, a packet of which
had just arrived and was in the room, would give all the
information he possessed in a clear and intelligible shape.
However, he should be most happy to reply to any ques-
tions that might be put to him, to the hest of his ability.
It might interest some present to know that it was owing,
under God, to the persevering exertions of one man, Mr.
Meet, that the society had been enabled, from the smallest
and apparently most hopeless beginning, to assume its
present more encouraging form. (Hear, hear.) He had
the pleasure of laying before the meeting a copy of the
Bishop of Chichester's official approbation of their dispo-
sition of the recovered tithes in the parish of Cuckfield,,
and he hoped, before long, that a second successful in-
stance, that of Skenforth, in the diocese of Llandaff,
might be appealed to by them. The general facts which
had called this trust into existence were patent and noto-
rious. On the one hand was an admitted and appalling
amount or spiritual deatitutloni in the other, tithes;
sacred property, devoted to meet those wants, alienated
from 4,660 parishes, to the amount of more than £1,300,000
per annum. (Hear.) But the very mention of this enor-
mous sum would show how hopeless would be the attempt
to purchase, even with any considerable self-sacrifice on
the part of the impropriators, those tithes. With a view,
therefore, of overcoming this obstacle, a plan of life in-
surance had been proposed, under the direction of the
board in London, by which the capital of the trust might
be preserved ; he would invite the attention of the prac-
tical gentlemen he saw before him to this proposal, and
he hoped it might, with their assistance, be satisfactorily
arranged and successfully worked. Dr. Trench had put
into his hand a return which showed thirty parishes in the
county of Lancaster from which tithes had been alienated
—thus offering a large local field of exertion to the Branch
Association, which he trusted they would occupy, There
was one other point, already admirably touched upon by
Mr. Pollock, on which he wished to say a word—the ab-
sence of all party or sectional bias in the operations of the
trust, which thus afforded a neutral ground on which all
churchmen might cordially co-operate together to diminish
the spiritual destitution wbich all alike deplored.
A conversation ensued, in which the Rector of Walton
and the Rev. Messrs. Jones, Nolan, and others, took a
part.

We also observed Messrs. J. A. Tobin, W. Fisher, H.
G. Harbord, 11. C. Chapman, J. Naylor. F. Clint, T.
Wagstaff, W. B. Jones, J. Betteley, T. W. Gladstone,
J. Harrison, W. Short, Huntington, Jordan, R.
Ellison, Batten, Croston, Worrell, &c.
The CHAIRMAN, in opening the business of the meet-
ing, congratulated the inhabitants of North and South
Toxteth upon the fact of their having come forward in
such numbers to express their opinions on the question of
the proposed repeal of the Navigation Laws.
Mr. INMAN having read the placard convening the
meeting, the Chairman called upon Mr. Fisher to propose
the first resolution.

Mr. WILLIAM FISHER moved the first resolution in a
very eloquent speech. The resolutions will be found in
our advertising columns.] There was no doubt, he said,
that any material alteration in the navigation laws must
be of serious consequence to the working classes of this
country. Capitalists might find ships either at home or.
abroad, but the labourer could find employment only at
home. To illustrate the position he wished to assume, he
supposed a ship of 500 tons, built in Liverpool, worth at
least £lO,OOO. Before ever a sail had been set to the ship,

£lO,OOO had bi'eu ell-toted hmongst the workmen and
tradesmen of this country. If the law should sanction
the capitalists of this country going to a foreign port to
obtain that £lO,OOO worth of labour, it would be so
much lost, not only to the British mechanic, but to the
various classes dependent on them for support. (A
-ause.) I

• • -.
p, ,t was a mistake to suppose that the present
was a mere carpenter's question : the labour commenced
much earlier than was suspected. Before a nail could be
driven, it must be made—the ore dug for—and by many
processes prepared. So with the wood and other mate-
rials employed. By looking at the subject in this light,
we would see of what vast importance the manufacture of
ships was to the people of this country. (Applause.)
God knows, the speaker said, that the wages a labourer
now had, enabled him to lay by little on a Saturday night,
and, therefore, it was that a country, situated as we were,
should cling to every advantage we possessed, like grim
death. (Applause.) He could place no confidence in a
man who preached about liberality, cried buy cheap and
sell dear, and yet in his own affairs was close-fisted
indeed. If they wanted cheap labour, let them go where
civilized man was degraded to a slave ; this country was not
in a position to admit of our going into the cheapest market.,
If we bought a cheap ship, the required capital would go out
of the country, and the poor man would ultimately be the
sufferer; because we knew that capital was what had kept,
the commerce, and what was more, the trade of Great
Britain in a healthy state. (Applause.)
Mr. J

A. TOBIN seconded the Motion. He called

. .
of the navigation laws, as they had been established and
recognized by the best of British statesmen. It was under
these laws, he said, that Britain had arrived at her pre-
sent state of glory. He was sure we never could be guilty
of so suicidal an act as to cut down the laws by which we
had risen to our present height. If we did we would de-
serve our fate. If our ship building were carried to other
shores, the result would be felt in our pockets ; work
would be taken from the labouring man, and bread, con-
sequently, from his family. It had been said that we.
might reduce our navy ; Cobden had told us to reduce it
one-half, as peace on the continent proclaimed an univer-
sal peace. The speaker recited some of the recent conti-
nental convulsions as a contradiction, and said a great

The Rev. Rector Campbell replied to an apprehension
which had been expressed, that the ma:nitude of the ob-
ject was such as to render the purpose of the tithe re-
demption trust hopeless, and that any attempt to buy up
lay tithes to the amount of a million and a-half per an-
num, which appeared to be the amount of inappropriate
lay tithes, would be perfectly fruitless, by stating that
the Trust could have no such purpose in view ; that any
attempt to purchase lay tithes to that amount would not
only be impracticable, but highly inefficient. That the
connexion between church property and lay property by
means of inappropriate tithes was a source of safety, and
had possibly contributed to save the property of the
church from further spoliation,—the Lords and Commons
.of England being well aware that the spoliation of church
property would lead, as it generally had led, to the spolia-
tion of their own. However successful the trust might
be, it was highly improbable that any more than
a small portion of the million and a-half would be
redeemed. But however small it might be, it was,
nevertheless, so much recovered for the religious in=
struction,of the poor by the installation of a clerymar.,
who spent his time and money amongst them. After
having referred to a small parish where the whole tithes
were in the hands of a Roman Catholic layman, who
duly paid the incumbent £4 a year, as a case in point
where the intervention of the tithe intervention might be
most brneficially employed. He concluded by expressing
a hope that if the objects of the trust were fairly brought
before the public, sufficient funds would be provided for
so religious and haritable a purpose, which might affect
a great amount of good, though by no means to the ex-
tent that might be desired, and proposed the following
resolution : ' That the Tithe Redemption Trust Society
deserves the support of all who are anxious to promote
the diffusion of the pure and undefiled religion of the
Church of England ; and that the rev. the clergy be re-
quested to recommend its interests to the members of
their congregations."

who, hurrying through a continental tour, affected to see
by intuition the views of nations ; and proclaimed in the
House of Commons that he did not see why the French
should have a revolution, AS they had now no privileged
orders, no Established Church. This was his prophecy ;
but almost at the moment he was uttering these words
the barricades were being raised in Paris, the monarchy
overthrown, and armed bands of ruffians were surround-
ing the senate. (Applause.) Was this the prophet we.
should take for a guide ? (a voice, "No !") He was
sure‘that voice spoke for that large and influential assem-
blage. Mr.• Tobin concluded by saying that he would,
rely rather on Segar than Cobden ; the former had truly
said that "Peace is the dream of philosophers; war the,
history of mankind." (Applause.)
. .

The Rev. J. JONES, on rising to second the resolution,
expressed his cordial approbation of this scheme for the
peaceful restitution of property to a despoiled and pillaged
church. Free as it was from all party views of aggran-
disement, and indeed from every motive but that-of a de-
Sire to promote the glory-of God,' and,calculated as it was
eventually to raise the revenues of many an imnoverished
inctimbency to something like an adequate support whereby
the "labourer worthy of his hire" might pursue his
heavenly calling without distressing and enfeebling anxiety '
about a maintenance,—he could not but rejoice in the
existence of such a society, and wish it " God speed."
He was quite aware that some well-wishers to the object
were discouraged by a notion as to the hopelessness of its .
accomplishment. Nor was he surprised that it should be .
so. When the object aimed at was very high, and the
means for the accomplishment of that object proportiona.
bly small, discouragement could not fail to be felt. The
object set before us by this society —the redemption of
church revenues, amounting, we are told, to upwards cif -
one million per annum—was indeed very high, and appa-
rently quite unattainable by any means at present within
our reach. But still, he maintained, there was no room
for despondency, much less despair; for whilst the entire
object at which it aimed might not be attainable, an inter-
mediate obiect of vast importance was certainly to-be at-
tained. Though we might not be able to accomplish the
whole, we might accomplish a part, and that a goodly
part. Every approximation to the desired end would
prove a blessing in itself, and brighten our hopes and ,
expectations as to the future. He did not wish to ,
speak of this scheme as the best that could possibly be
devised for the present increase of the revenues of im-
poverished livings, or to compare it invidiously with
other ameliorating plans having substantially the same
objeets•in view. In such matters he would respond to the
sentiment of the Apostle when he said, " Let every man

to protest against an abrogation of the navigatio•l laws.
Mr. J. E. NAYLOR seconded the resolution, which was
carried unanimously. • •

The CHAIRMAN congratulated the meeting on the oh-
jea for which they had met that evening. He wished to
see the poor man well dadtrade good—commerce flou-
rishing ; and it' that were to be carried out, they must
support the navigation laws.. He concluded by thanking
them for the compliment they had paid him.
Mr. T. INMAN called the attention of the meeting to

the objects of the association' and in doing so said the
question of the Navigation Laws was one affecting the
interests of the capitalist as well as well as the labourer :
all classes of tradesmen and all other branches of business
were concerned as well as the ship carpenter. There
were, perhaps, from 1000-to 2000 ship carpenters in Liver-
pool, and if vessels were built in foreign countries at £5
per ton, while they cost here £l2 or £l4, what were
persons employed in that branch of trade to do ?—where
were they to get the .money . from to purchase articles of
consumption from the tradesman and the shopkeeper ?
(Hear, hear.) They would be obliged either to emigrate
to other countries or be, dependent on the bounty of their

more weaitby neighboUrs. - The evil would not, however,
stop there, as the wealthy would soon be. brought down
to a level with their poorerneighbours.. The principle he
advocated'was to inereaie-labout. to the greatest possible
extent, and that would be done by carrying out the prin-
ciple of the Navigation Laws. Whatever free traders

might say to the contrary, their objeet was to cheapen
provisions, and by that means bring down the wages of
the labourer: (Hear, hear, and eh !) They wanted cheap
labour, and would, have it unless the labouring classes
prevented them. When the agriculturists spoke of having
tlit4r labourers out of employ, what did the manufacturers
say ?—they said, send them to the large towns, where
they would be provided with employment. What was
that but introducing additional operatives in the labour
market, and thus bringing down wages to the lowest pos-
sible point ? He called' upon. the operative classes to
i form themselves nto associations, and organise under the
guidance'of the secretary. of the general association, and
consider whether they could tamely submit to the evils
that must accrue to this country by an abrogation of the
.Navigation Laws. He would rather see that which must
inevitably come to pass, a revolution in this country, than
that those laws should be repealed. (Cheers.)
Mr. SHORT introduced to the meeting Mr. J. Jordan,
who read a short report upon the subject of the navigation
laws, and which was to be printed for circulation. The
report alluded to free trade as one of the greatest curses of
the country, as by it the workhouses had been filled and
the people robbed of their rights. The corn had been
brought from Russia, America, and other countries to the
destruction of the agricultural interest, and the import of
provisions had so reduced Ireland, that her people came
over here for relief, and thus tended to swell the poor rates
to an extiitdidinary amount. They might cry out about
the potato fatilue effreinecitrs of free trade.eland;itas Thenotso,
sitpewakaesr w
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loudly cheered at intervals during the reading of the report.
Three 'cheers were then given for " The Queen," " Lord
Stanley," " The retention of the Navigation Laws in all
their integrity except such alterations as might be judici-
iiirsly- made," and " The good old Tory cause," after
which the proceedings terminated with the Kentish fire.
We may state, as rumours have been industriously cir-
I_ to the contrary,--that the room was densely
Innulreda could not gain admittance—

The reSolution was past and carried unanimously

_ .
Mr. BETTELEyproposed the second resolution, to the
effect that the members of the committee of the branch
Association be requested to put themselves into commis-,
nication with, the parent association, to petition the Housq
of Lords to reject Mr. Labouchere's bill, and also to
memorialise her Majesty to dissolve parliament, to ascer-
tain the sentiments of the country at large upon the navi-
gation laws. (Hear, hear, hear.) The Apeaker said he
came forward to advocate the cause of the workmen an 4
the labourers of England : society was 'composed of the
,consumer, the speculator,- and the labourer. The con-
sumer required no 'protection;` the speculator would be
the party benefited by the abrogation of the navigation
laws, while the poor hard-labourer would be left in thd
lurch to look after himself as best he could, without any
law to protect his property, which was his labour:
(Cheers.) The speculators were the. merchants ; and
they said they would go to,other countries, where the ex-
penses attendant upon speculation were less ; but on the
subject of the building of ships, where could be the advnn-
tage of sending the capital thus engaged to foreigners ?
During the last year, at the time it was said we had a
famine in the land, we went to buy corn abroad whilst we
were constructing railroads at home, and then there came
a panic, which was the coniequence of going to foreign
markets for our provisions. (Hear, hear.) We had
knocked our railways up to try to grow corn. What were
the Financial Association doing ? Why, advocating low
prices. All wealth came from the labour of the poor man.
He would recommend the working class to advocate high
wages, for money was but a mere scale to measure labour
by, and he hoped it should never be said that Engilsht
men should go abroad to construct their wooden walls.
(C heers.)
Mr. H. C. CHAPMAN seconded the resolution. He
first read and eulogised the principles of the Constitu-
tional Association. He was happy, he said, to see the
committee surrounded by what he should call the bones
and sinews of her majesty's subjects. A friend of his
had asked, of what use was the movement ; the public
spirit was broken • the public mind degraded. His
reply was, that the public mind of the ministers and
statesmen might be degraded, but the pluck of English-
men,was as true as ever. (Applause.) Had her majesty
asked him the same question, and asked who were those
around him, he should have answered—behold the civic
national guard of Liverpool. (Applause.) Mr. Chapman
then referred to the navigation laws. It was a subject he
said he' had paid great attention to—that he had been
practically acquainted with for many years. (Hear,

and the greatest enthusiasm prevailed during the entire
proceedings.

LIVERPOOL CHATHAM SOCIETY.—The annual soirée
of the members and friends of this society was held on
Wednesday evening, at the Royal Assembly-rooms, Great
GeOrge-street, under very distinguished patronage. The
chair was occupied by Lord John Manners, and there was
a highly respectable and fashionable assemblage of ladies
and gentlemen. Tlie Chairman delivered an eloquent
address in opening the proceedings, and was followed by
Dr. Trench, the Rev.. Dr. Hume; Mr. P. B. Drinkwater,
and Mr. Kurtz, the secretary. After the business part of
the proceedings bad Concluded, the room was cleared for
dancing, which was kept up till an early hour. Refresh-
ments were served up in the ante-room, and the evening
was spent in a highly gratifying manner. - .
BLUE COAT BROTHERLY SOCIETY.—On Tuesday eve-
ning, the annual dinner of the members of t

s society

,took place at the Adelphi Hotel, and the sumptuous re-
past was served up in Mr. Radley's usual excellent style.
The chair was filled by Joseph Langton, Mg., and the
vice-chair by Mr. Woods, the governor of the Blue Coat
Hospital. ' There were also present, the Rev. Archdeacon
Biooks,.Mr. S. Holme' Mr. J. A. Tobin, Mr. Swainson,
Mr. -E. Mr. R. Gibson, and Mr. Matthew .Greg-
son. Mr. G. Holden and his glee payty volunteered their
enlivening-services.—The chairman in proposing " The
Church," coupled with it "the health• of Archdeacon
Brooks" with a Warm eulogitim.—The rev. gentleman in
replying, said tlie Clueition of education was one which
'had-raised up many contrary opinions; but he would say,
after many years' extierience, that an education, without
religion, was worse than worthless He need only point,

• • asTproof t 4-va ue of religious instructiol?, the
members of the society present, who had all received their
educatibu in the Blue Coat Hospital. When he looked
upon the respectable apoturance'of the young men around
him, and when he bore in mind the Christian object they
had iu view—namely, the.guardianship of their younger
brethren in-less fortunate circumstances, who tvere tread-
ing in a path that required their utmost care and solici-
tude, just emerging into the temptations and trials of the
world, after having been nurtured in the school in which
they had been inmates-.--he could not but feel con-
vinced of the inestimable value of the education they had
had imparted to thiiin.—The following toasts were also
given and ably responded. to.; ." The Blue Coat Hospital,
and the memory pf its -pions founders ;" "The present
Trustees of the H-ospital;" " The Chairman;" and "The
town and trade of Liverpool." Mr. S. Holme, in replying
to the last, contrasted the present undisturbed state of this
country with the turmoil and -civil wars which had rent
asunder other countries,- and attributed it to the hold which
the Church of England had on the affections of the people.
Referring to the Blue-coat Hospital, and looking at the
inscription on the flag opposite to him, established in
1717, he hoped it would receive that .support which would
enable it to flourish more and more. He had had several
boys from the school, and had never been so well pleased
with other boys. The objects of the society are to visit
the boys who are apprenticed from the school, and, in case
of destitution, to award them clothing, &c. The society
consists of young men who have been brought up in the
fiehnol, and they assist each other occasionally by loans of
money, &c.

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