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Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-07-08 00:00:00

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far better that childleUsliodd not read at that early age—r.hear,
hear) `:4-and on that aceoent it was thought better to omit it. it
was on that account only, and it could not enter any man's mind
that it was a question of protestant and catholic; therefore that
objection_ utterly fell to the ground. He perceived that great
stress was laid on another passage, relating to Peter. That
Christ appeared first to Peter; it was assigned as a reason of his
having first appeared to Peter, that it was to console him for the
deep affliction in which he may have been in consequence of his
fall. and it was referred to as a mark of his great condescension
that he appeared first to Peter; the construction as put on it,
here was denied, and we are told that our Lord " appeared first
to Mary," not first to Peter. The intention of the translators
was, that he appeared to Peter the first of the apostles; that
was, he appeared first to this apostle before any other apostle,
and that he was not the first person that he appeared to. The
insinuation in Mr. M`Neile's letter was a perfect trifling with
words. These four objections were all that occurred to his
mind at that moment; they were all evidences of the disposition
to find fault—of one anxious to find fault, and carp, and cavil.
That disposition found very little to feed upon ; and he would
contend that' these_ selections were the most valuable addif
lions to the schools of this country. On the subject of
reading the Bible in these schools, one word and he had
done. No man could have a deeper conviction of the
value of the Bible than he had. They talked about using
the Bible in the schools, might he ask if any gentleman would
contend that any Bible should be put into the hands of children
in a school ? Did any, man contend for that ? He did not know
that ever any man did. The principle was the same; it was a
selection of the Bible that was read even when they gave the
children the Bible into their hands; they did not read the whole;
it would be extremely injudicious to require young children to
read the whole of the Bible, and to expect that they would ac-
quire benefit from it. If auy advantage was to be acquired from
their reading, it was from its finding its way to their hearts.
(Applause.) In all schools where the Bible was used there was.
only a selection used ; - would any gentleman tell him the differ-
ence between giving the Bible in separate parts and giving it
bound up in oue volume ? He saw no difference in point of
principle. There was a translation of the holy volume con-
taining the Book of Genesis, and the 3 vols. contained the
Acts of the Apostles, and they were going on with a similar
translation, and the fourth book would shortly be out. When •
the children read these books were they not reading the holy
scriptures ? Could it, . but by a play on the word, be said, that
the Bible would be excluded? Was not this the Bible ? and if
the children read this they were reading the Bible in a way cal-
culated to do great good. They stood on circumstances in which'
they must decide whether they would open the schools for the
of their population- or for a part of it. If they would
introduce, the authorized Version of the scriptures into the
schools, it was a statute of objection to every Roman Catholic.
They took an objection to it and would not attend. He.did not
agree with them. On the other hand Protestant would not read
the Douay version. He thought that here the commissioners' ,
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system was worthy of all acceptation, and the state of the schools .
in-Liverpool called on them to act on this plan. The Roman
Catholics who came here were entitled to every consideration.
Driven *miry...our abuse of our peaver over Irelansl, through
successive generations, they were entitled to every aiilstance
they (the Council) could give them; and he trusted that the
Council would show that they had a deep. sense of the injuries
of Ireland. They could adopt this system in perfect consistency
with the word of God, and he did not doubt bat-that great good
would result from its introduction. On taking his seat Mr.
Blackburne was greeted with loud applause
Mr. Counsellor LA WHENCE HEYIVORTH complimented Mi.
Blackburne on his very able definitions which had come home
very satisfactorily to him as he hoped they had done to every
one there. He found that the commissioners had permitted and.
appointed certain hours when the Bible might be read ; a book .
in his opinion the most valuable. It contained a science, the •
science of religion, and it ought to be taught like all other
Sciences, by furnishing a child with the simple elements of re-
ligion first. (Loud cries of " Vote, vote.")
Iklr. Councillor HENRY LAW RENC R said, though he had been
much struck with the observations of Mr. Blackburn, yet the
whole of this system came under his notice as something new,
and he felt bound to support the amendment. .
The MaYost took the liberty of saying one word before they
voted. It was to express his unbounded admiration of the
speech of Mr. Blackburn; but he hoped it would not be con-
fined to the fleeting records of that council-room, but would be
further extended.

Mr. Cropper's amendment was then put, when there ap-
peared for the amendment 6, against it 45. The proceedings
of the committee were then confirmed. The following is a list
of the division:—

For the amendment, Messrs. C. Horsfall, J. Barton, W.
Rushton, H. Lawrence, E. Cropper, and J. S. Leigh.
Against the amendment—Messrs. J. Hohnes, S. Hope, C.
Logan, W. Thornhill, R. Shiel, E. Harvey, E. Smith, J. D.
Thornely, C. Rawdon, A. M‘Gregor, H. Holmes, L. Hey-
worth, J. Walmslev, I'. Bolton, J. Woollwright, R. Bright, H.
Hornby, W. Rathbone, W. Maxwell, J. Aikin, W. Lassell,
T. Holt, J. Carson', T. Morecroft, T. Blackburn, lt. Itoskell,
T. Coglan, R. Alison, jun., G. Holt, F. Jordan, W. M. Dun-
can, C. Tayleur, E. Evans, W. Blain, 0. Heyworth, T. Bullet',
G. Robinson, W. Stuart, T. Booth, W. Brown, T. Leathom,
T. Smith, C. H. Jonv.s R. Berm, and the Mayor.
Absent—Messsrs. J. Mellor, C. Birch, W. It Prestpn, J.
Lawrence, W. Earle, jun., 'l'. Brocklebank, J. Sanders, J
Cropper, jun., J. Moou, Wit P. Freme, T. B. Barclay, and J
Hornby. .
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CUSTOM-HOUSE COMMITTEE. •
A communication was read from Mr. Francis Baring from
the Treasury, in answer to one to the Treasury from the com-
mittee, offering the use of the west wing of the Custom-house
now completed. The letter allowed the giant of the,.west wing
to the customs.

The rest of the report spoke of the progress of the works.—
Confirmed.

MR. PARLOUR'S COMPENSATION CLAIM.
The TOWN-CLERK read a claim put in by Mr. Parlour,
the late superintendent of police, for compensation for having
been removed from his office at the time of the passing of the
municipal act of parliament, under the provisions of whiCh he
claimed compensation. He claimed the, stint of £5,374 10s., or
an annuity of £337 10s. during his life. The claim then set
forth his fees and salary for each year, from 1830 to 1835; for
salary £3OO, for fees £lOO, for emolument of house £5O, making
a total of £450 for, each year.
The TOWN CLERK proposed that the Council should act on,
this occasion as they had done when the county coroner's claim
was laid before them. That the Consolidated Paid Officers
Committee should then take the subject into consideration and
report to the Council thereon at that sitting.
The committee then retired.

The IVIAYOR announced that it would be necessary now to an-
nounce to the rectors whether their attendance was in future re-
quired at the Corporation Schools. They would expect such a
communication to be made to them.

Mr. Councillor HORSFALL thought it would be better to
transmit to them a copyof the Education Committee's resolu
tions, and request or not their attendance: be should suggest
to request their attendance.
Mr. Alderman ROBINSON would suggest that the subject be
referred to the educational committee.
Mr. Councillor SHIEL would read a resolution of the com-
mittee that the schools be placed exclusively under the commit-
tee.

After some further conversation it was agreed to refer the
subject to the Education Committee to do what was right.
A memorial was read, from the inhabitants of Cleveland-
square Market, pra:%ing for some fish stalls. Steps bad bee❑
taken for That purpose.
A letter of thanks was read from the organist of St. Thomas's
Church.

A memorial was read from the master chimney sweeps, praying
the Council to put.in force the late act of parliament, referring
to them, for the purpose of making their trade more respecta-
ble, and clearing the town of worthless sweeps. Referred
amidst laughter to the improvement committee.
The Paid Officers Committee now rettirned.
The TOWN-CLERK read a resolution of the committee, "that
the claim of Mr. Wm. Parlour having been referred to the con-
solidated committee, they having taken counsels' opinion upon
it, have agreed to report that, in their. opinion, the said claim is
invalid, and Mr. Parlour is not,mititlecl to any compensation,"
Mr. Councillor H. LAwftENcri,,,lia.ving seen opinions on both
sides, was not prepared to give4lin opiniosn.. He agreed with
the committee that they could not do otherwise than they had
done, but it must be put in the way of trial.
The MAYOR.—That rests with Mr. Parlour. '
The resolution of the committee was then agreed to.
FUN DS COLLECTED FROM THE BOYS AT THE • CORPORATION

SCHOOLS

The MAYOR stated that some months ago the treasurer had
applied to the rector for a sum of money which had accrued
from the pence contributed by the boys. He, the Mayor, had
applied to the Rev. Rector 'Campbell, and had received two
letters, one of which promised to lay the matter before the Rev.
Mr. Brooks; the other stated that the corporation having ap-
propriated the money in question to the purchase of books to be
given as rewards to the boys, and invested the surplus with the
rectors, to be held in trust for the schools, they did not feel in-
clined to deliver it up, but requested to know the grounds on
which the present corporation claimed it. The Mayor stated
that the sum was £268. The resolutions of the old corporation
on this subject were then read.

Mr. Couiicillor HOPE would be glad to know if the rectors did
not consider themselves answerable for the money to the council.
Mr. Councillor H. LAWRENCE said the rectors had merely
hesitated because they were not exactly aware of the proper
course to be adopted. If the documents which had just been
read were sent to them, their compliance with the request would
be immediate.

My. Councillor SIIIEL said this was a matter of money, and
the rectors were bound to know under what authority they held
the money. When clergymen once gut money they were very
loth to part with'it. Mr. Shiel then entered into a statement of
the expenditure of the corporation schools, which he denominat •
ed as monstrous. He called on the council to adopt a resolution
that the rectors be forthwith called on to refund the money to
the corporation.'
Mr. Cauncillor HENRY LA WRENCE was of opinion that, if the
restitutions of the old corporation were forwarded to the rectors,
it would save any formal demand, and was quite as civil a way
of doing it. He did not differ with Mr. Shiel in his desire of
obtaining the money, but he differed with him very much in the
way of making the demand. An instruction was then carried
that a copy of the old corporations, resolutions be sent to the
;rectors as an answer to their letter, and as the grounds on which
}the council called on them to refund the money to the treasurer.

remove the nuisance as far as he was concerned, provided that
all the other manufactories of a similar nature were likewise
slopped. He should inlve that the improveuient committee be
directed to inquire into the most effectual means of putting a
stop to all such nuisances.
Doctor CARSON in strong terms expressed his opinion of the
deleterious effects of the muriatic acid gas,generated in the pro-
cess of 'procuring alkali from salt, as practised by the manufac-
turers in question. There was a remedy irimaking them .cot-
sume the smoke. The muriatic gas had ,such an affinity for
water, that by making it pass through it it would be entirely
consumed. This would be attended with some expense, but it
was imperative, and in the power of the law to compel it. He
did not think there would be much difficulty in having the whole
of the works destroyed. It would be no disadvantage to the
proprietors if all were destroyed, and they would be well pleased
if they were compelled to use the old alkali, for a better article
would be produced. But so long as one continued, as now, all
must continue.

Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN spoke in equally strong terms to
the same effect.

The TOWN-CLERK said, that by the 92d section of the act,
Power was given to the council to apply money for the purposes
of prosecuting, &c. where the public health was concerned.
Mr. Councillor THORNHILL said, that as one of the market
committee he had taken charge of St. Martin's market, and he
was frequently unable to remain there for more than 10 minutes
at a tiirre, in .consequence of the quantity of this gas which
sometimes filled the place. The meat, fish, and vegetables
there were sometimes changed by it.
Several other members expressed ;heir opinions in favour of
the nuisances being done away speedily as possible.
The subject was referred to the impr6vernent committee to in-
stitute an inquiry on the subjects with an instruction that all
similar manufactories in the town should be included in the in-
quiry.