The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-12-02 00:00:00

Dre, 2, 1836.

INSOLVENT COURT.

tiiirituterS:wish to be lauded for the virtue of forbearance,
auckyet to seture,, at the same time, all the benefits Or
Active operation,—=cowardly, and despicable conduct I It
is not necessary for us to discuss the question of inter,
ference, or non-interference, in order to exhibit the
winct:tossed policy of the British ministry—concluded in
- whatever,way that question may be, it leaves them yvith.
;out ,one..plea of, justification. Will the eyes of England
remain shut to these .flagraitt. inconsistencies 2—shall our
4cirtational honour be soiled, and our national character be
degraded,, by such a;combination ,p( driy ellers,and equi•-
•:tocaturs,„ who are not worthy„ to site in,une °ldle town
councils of one of the most disorderly corporations. of
this county—even‘ Liverpool.

- - To talk of protection to British property, is almost too
ob,cure .for. serious comment. Ought, .England, the
Mistress of the Ocean, and formidable to every Continent
--to feel it necessary, like an alarmed higgler, watching
his shutters at night, from the dread, of entrance and
robbery by a thief, to send out a naval police, to take
care of our merchants in a paltry state like Portugal
ought not her :very name to give security ?—and a
message, if necessary, to.have the force and sanctity of
law ?.--,there was a time, `4 e'er England's griefs began;"
when.the certainty Vf .restitution and retribution, would
have checked in the, mightiest kingdom of. Europe, every
design: of violence—heu quantum mutato ab itlo ! If we
think by this "..armed neutrality" (?) ,to give stability to
The present government. of Portugal,, we reason like the
countryman in Horace,- who waited till the waters of a
rapid'stream should all have.passed by.. Their forbear-
ance is the honesty of a thief, in the presence of a con-
stable—and, *e think, the security of the poor Queen,
something like what we ourselves havefelt, on entering
the premises of a friend, and finding a savage mastiff
-loose, in an attitude ready to attack us, but restrained by
tbe:appearance of his master—whilst he keeps close. to us
we feel that so long we are safe; but we should dread,
even for * moment, the loss of our protector.
What are the restless elements thatnuw convulse, and.
threaten the overthrow of so• many states, it WOUld: be
morethan curious to inquire whether one princhAe,,pter-
- wades them 'all—or whether. an insurrectionary contagion
is propagated _from kingdom to kingdom—or -whether
-civilization, which, it has done from the earliest records
of ihistory, i*still travelling westward, and the sun' of
political greatness is- declining from the .meridian of
Europe, are questions well worthy the attention, of the
philosopher,, who delights to, keep within his compre-
-4' ,-herisivescope, the vast revolution of empires. To some
OUthem the occurrence of passing events, and the deep
interest tve,,feet to be involved in their issue, will, from
--uitimeto time, call our reflection.

The peti-

'EL: -We invite the attention of our readers• to the extraor-
tdiriary proceedings which took place in the Insolvent
`'.Debtors' Court yesterday, of which we furnish a report
-4n another column. The facts elicited in the course of
'the trial,- are most instructive, involving as they -do clues-
lions of the highest importance to the Liverpool public,
end implicating as they must the character of our reformed
Corporation. We have only space thus briefly to ad-
vert to the- subject to-day; we shall resume its discussion
on Tueiday.

. . . .
There are some evils which, though fatal in their ef-
:. sects, are limited in their operation. Hectic unsparingly
-destroys its solitary victim, whilst the
_plague enters
- every house, and carries death into every retreat. In
like manner that political plague, reform, and more espe-
cially municipal reform, has proved the bane of moral
principles throughout the land. Every meeting partakes
of the taint of its corruption—a universal delirium tre-
mens hurries away its corporation slaves to acts of self-
prostitution, from which they would once have . shrunk
back with virtuous feelings, of horror. It is that Agura-
ti.ve " hot iron:' which, the apostle says, "sears the con-
science." Society sickens under its influence ; and if we
Iliad not the cheering prospect that it will soon, like a mor-
tified member, slough off, and leave the political body re-
ifoffi twated in health, we should grow weary of existence.
Inth Is a roan to be chosen chief magistrate of a borough,
whose business is, in the . language of Blackstone, to
hring,justiv to our doors;" we first ask, is he a Radical
orA;c.ll2,Ftsgvittive ? Do we want a watchman to protect
me!sieis, a scavenger to clean our streets. a.,mayor's-
.r.lt,.,fitnessenger,tp ,run on errands, or a.char-woman to clean
,:a committee chamber, we first inquire, what are tlLeir po
Wiat, we ask, has Radicalism or Coosp;vatisni
to du roth.the administration. of; justice, esi. an
101 ;annual officer ? Rattles, and brooms, ankduSters, are
ney, dec,:radipg as::ociations, when the minds is, or.ought to be,
durgr.asping, questions of policy, upon which, depends the
,welfare. of thousands; or unravelling perplexing diflicul-•
I. ties Which arise out of the various and complicated
1151/, tious of society. But to come home to a question in.
which the honour of our town is implicated. By What
Enie:strained.curtstruction, what. perversion-of principle, what
-hut.dklignity of judgment, has the Committee of the Duck
ci•aitrAlt.lt4hottght7 it necessary to make Radicalism,the sine
9un-non of qualification. of its Solicitor? ,We do not
animadvert.upon. the.o'oject of their choice, however des-
-77, picably:we think of his politics—that would-be, ourselves
tell, to be guilty.of. the:fault we contemn in them. It is not
(-4;,,- with the appointment.we are at issue—it is with the
nar-
row•minded, ungenerous principles, which
.were
dominant over the whole.transactionEthat we are at war ;
and we have a few reflections to make upon the preva-
tc-, lencu of this ethieo-political depravity, which may at
oft ~4,9nceserve to express our reprobation of it, and, either

tol`froin shame or remorse, lead to its correction.
.4.19 eo < Without examining the stamens and pistils of this nox=
cruciform weed, it is easy to see, that it is an off-set
11 from a not very old dissenting stock, which some time

-is,- ago spread poisonous odour over the land; creating so-
cial confusion—heartburnings—slanders—feuds--and all,
kf.E. uncharitableness. Many of this pharisaical family would
not buy their sugar, or their candles, their snuff, or their
tobacco, from any shop but that of a thorough Dissenter;
as if the sugar of a Church of England man had no
sweetness-7his candles gage less light—his snuff was not
half. st, stern.utative, and his tobacco had lost all its aro-.
ma.. Horrible :,and debasing-sen;i_ntents 1,-7-ungenerous
unchristian conduct ! How calculated to
,destroy the
bonds of socianatipiell It is the very same principle
is now in action under the municipal reform bill. In
But ~,choosing a solicitor to a committee of a Dock Trust the
'question-, is not, as it ought to have been, who is, prO-
boucleitsionally, best.rittalified to fulfil the duties of that office,

but whke can we find one in whom is united the radica

14'. ;and the lawyer? We do not 'wish-invidiously to place
tlti~r the candidates.Mr-Boarne and Mr. Harvey in juxta-po-
sition—we kitowrand when--necessary,-.can use the arti-
fice of contrast. Bat though we could say every thing in
praise of Mr. Bourne, as a private gentleman and as a
-.professional:character, we shall not, we need not, build
his reputation on the depreciation 'of Mr. Harvey.. We
lament-the'choice made, not from feelings of political dis.-

414 •comfiture—not from malignant envy at Mr. Harvey's
':,success.; no—but because we think the principle which
51'41.1'. occasioned the election is detrimental even to municipal
4417 policy, but incomparably more destructive of moral rec-
_

rte}: titvde.

`pi .We have one other view of this fatally pervading
5°"1:-- doctrine, which we think ought to have its influence
"i:?' -over the minds of our most moderate•political enemies—
other enemies we hope never to have—it is this—if
radi-
cal committees will make political qualifications essential
Ili appointment to-office—conservatives, in self defence,
'Will be driven to adopt a similar protection—and then
".1 what a fearful mass of calamity attends every change—
"s'rrren with habits long- formed—modes of life long pur-
,''7:-.sued—other connexions, and other prospects abandoned
—on the event of -a change in popular politicsoire

turned back into the current of society, without friends,
tl
‘r:l.iz 'and even without personal qualifications, to provide for

,
'themselves in any novel employment of life. This atbi-

&Act:
'-trary proceeding is not sanctioned by ministers them-
"riL 14elves—their- models in every thing else—radicals as
'they are, they do not tear up by the roots, as our muni-
-7• corporations do, every little flower, that they think
41AI
a weed, in their political garden.
4A • .:d
ed

EA tit* PosiNG.—Dean Swift says that " he never knew any
n►Pn rise to eminence who las, in bed of a morning ;• and Dr.
rankliu, in his peculiar manner saNs that " he who rises late
tray trot all day, but never overtake his business."

, . •
Heiity Morley having pawned the petitioner's watcl► with hint
and that he had lent .C1(1 upon it.
Thomas Lythgoe, formerly keeper of the Bridewell, deposes
to knowing the insolvent.; The inSolvent had Once shewn
a'citain of the resetublance of gold, which he said was gold
He alsO saw a'Watch ; the chain was appended to the watch,
It was about, three months since. He pulled his watch out
night in the Bridewell, and shewed it to hint with the chain
attached. •
Cross-examined by the tietitioner. Mr. Berry had also exj•
mined it. He handed the watch over to him, with the chain.
appended. The chain was a gold chain He did not remark
whether it was a curb or a link chain. He had nut seen thl
chain before or since. , •

The.court for the relief of Insolvent. debtors was held on
Wedneiday and yesterday, before Henry Revel Reynolds, Esq.,
his Majesty's • chief coinmissioner for the relief of insolvent
debtors. There were 'no cases of interest on Wednesday, the:
cases in which any difficulty arose being adjotirried to the next
day. The first case of interest_ which came on yesterday was the
examination of A. E. Lyims, on his petition to he diseharged. It
may be remembered that a little time age an action was brought
in the Court of Passage against the petitioner Lyons, for false
itnerisonment Of the wife of a person. named James Smith, the
keeper of
,a ceok-Shop, whom. he took into custody on some
slight.- pretence whilst in the exercise of his duty as an-
inspector of police. , In that action a verdict was found fur the.
plaintiff: with 5/. demages,sand costs. The costs amounted to
about 25/., but were afterwards taxed at 101. by the townsclerk.
For 'this "amount of dantages and costs the defendant was ar-
rested; and no.w petitioned to be relieved froM the same, under
the act for. insolvent debtors. The petitioner was opposed by
Smith, who was his detaining creditor, and on whom, from the
defendant's alleged inability to pay, fell the amount of the costs
the action: above named.
Mr. 'Wilkins appeared for the opposing creditor.
tioner had no counsel.
Andrew Edward Lyons being sworn, on his examination, de-
posed that he had been residing in England thirteen months,
and-previously he had lived at Tullamore, Queen's County, Ire-
land; was assistant engineer with Mr. Henry Bretteight or nine
months. His father was a farmer iu county Mayo, in the neigh-
bourhood of Kihriorris. His cousin, Andrew Edward Lyons,
resided also in Ireland i he went to America in May or "June
last. -He-was admitted into the police force as soon as they
were established, about ten months since. He could not say
throtigh whose interest he got in. He got in four mouths after
he came to this country. He had more than 101. about a month,
month or six weeks before he got into it. He was clerk to the
liefortii committee of St. George's ward; he got El Sc. asweek.
He was engaged until the election; he used to canvass. He
was out of employment after the elept ion, but still received £1 5.;:.
a-week ; this was during the December election. Since De-
cember, he got into the police immediately after. He got
a-week as policeman, and his uniform and his clothes sieuerailv.
o -
He got nothing else.
Mr. Wilkins.—Yes, you did. •
Petitioner.—That was my stated pay,
- .Mr. Wilkins.—What else?
Petitioner.—At that time there were some perquisites.
Mr. Wilkins.—That is a very indefinite term; tell me what
they were ? • ' • • -
retitioner.—l mean that money that is not statedes a fixed
salary, but merely what arises from—'
Mr. Wilkins.—From what?
Petitioner.-=I mean by this word perquisites, money which
persons receive in asi office, the same notbeing a fixed salary.
Mr. Wilkins —Now, it may be as well to tell you that I ill') a
plain-spoken,, and I should like you to explain
yehrselfin plainer terms. Tell me what these perquisites were?
Petiirener.L-They were monies resulting from fines. , • -
Mr. Wilkins,--And what did-these fines result from?
Petitioner.-Frein abuses in.the town.
Mrssitkins.'—That is, abuses proved by -W y your information?
Petatidness—Not-by me solely.
Mr.sWilkinsa-But you were one of the parties
Petitioner.—ln some of the cases I was.
Mr. Wilkinsa--In point of fact, was it not the moiety of a pe-
nalty resulting from an information laid by you.
Petitioner.—lt was.'
Commissioner.—lf the magistrates were to order a fine of 2/.
on your information, would you receive 1/.
Petitioner.-1 should receive one, but not directly.
Mr. Wilkins.—You were rather more than nine months in
offce
Petitioner.—l was.
Mr. Wilkins.—Now, Mr. Lyons, it is out of real mercy to
you that I put you on your guard. Now, confine yourself to the
truth. If you should be convicted of perjury, you will rue the
consequences. During the time you were iu office, how many
informations did you lay?
Petitioner.—l cannot tell.
Mr. Wilkins.—l don't want to know particulars. Did you
lay fifty informations?
Petitioner.—l suppose I did, sir, more.
Mr. Wilkins.—Did you lay 60 inforrnatious ?
Petitioner.—Yes.
Mr. Wilkins.—Seventy ?
Petitioner.—Perhaps more even than that.
- Me. Wilkins.—Eighty ? •
Petitioner.—Perhaps even more than that, but I can't say.
Mr. Wilkins.-How many convictions resulted from these
informations ?
Petitioner.---I can't say, sir.
Mr. Wilkins.—Well as nearly as yon can tell us?
Petitioner.— Perhaps the greatest part.
Mr. Wilkins.—lf the greatest part of these informations of
yours succeeded, what do you mean by stating on your new
special balance sheet, that from January, at the time you were
in office, you only received £l4 as perquisites ?
Petitioner.—l don't know what I received ; that much I
appropriated..
Mr. Wilkins.—There is such a thing kept in Messrs. Ellis
and Shuttleworth's office as a fine book.
Petitioner.—l am aware of that.
Mr. Wilkins.—l tell you on that fine book I find you receive
upwards of £6O as your share.
-Petitioner.—lt may have come into my hands, but I have not
appropriated it to my own use.
Mr. Wilkins,s--All I wish to know is, have not £6O and up-
wards been paid into your hands, as your share of tines ?
Petitioner.l won't swear to the amount.
Mr. Wilkins.—Will you swear you have not received £5O ?
Petitioner.—l will not swear to it.
Mr. Wilkins.—Will you swear to £4O ?
Petitiouer.—No, I will not ; I can't swear to the amount.
Mr. Wilkins.—Mau! man ! what do you mean ?
• Petitioner.-I never kept an account of it. '
'Mr. Wilkins.—l ask sou to tell me, as nearly as you can, on
your solemn oath, how much money you have received iu fines ?
Petitioner.—lt is impossible. •
Mr. Wilkins.—Why impossible ?
Petitioner.-e-I have no recollection of the sums.
Mr. Wilkins.—l have told you I don't wish you to speak to
£lO. You tell us you have laid upwards of 80 infortnatious, and
that nearly every one of them succeeded ? -
Petititmer.aveilegranting the premises, I can't arrive at
Anystisiug like u good conclusion. I would be sorry to say that 1
receiVeff.£so. if I laid a hundred infortnatiops.
Mr. Wilkins.—Did you receive £lO ?
Pet itioner,—l suppose 1 have; not that I have any conviction
rttrat-I it. •
„-,,Tise.petioner was then closely questioned as to whether he
filled any situation now in the gaol, whilst a prisoner, and re-
veived payment for-it; which he totally: denied. Upon his oath
he had not lust' ucted Mr. Davenport with regard to his petition
before he went into gaol. He paid Iss. a week for his brand
and lodgingS where he last lodged, in Chapel-lane. He had
contracted 'no debts, excepting £1 10s. for clothes, to Messrs.
Silver and Co., and 4s. for shoes mending. The gold watch
which-he stated himself to have on his commitment, worth £l9,
belonged to -his cousin, Andrew Edward Lyons. His cousin
was in good ;eircumstances, and had remitted him money at
different periods; and on one occasion, five or six months ago,
he sent him £l3 10s. to buy a watch fur him, and that he (pe-
titiones)• was: to get his own name engraved on. it. As the
money sent was too much for a silver watch, he deferred buying
it until he could put more to it to buy a gOld one. As soon as
he hid made up £2O he bought the watch in 'question for £l9
10s., about three 'months ago, of Mrs. Hornby. Mr. Daven-
port had read over his balance sheet to him; the watch was not
mentioned in it, as it was hurriedly gut up, lest he should be too
late for the present eourt of relief; and besides, he had a con-
viction on his mind that the watch was not his, and he need not
say anything about it. He had not mentioned the £l3 he had
received from his cousin in. his balance sheet, because he had
not thought it necessary. He had pawned the watch to James
Morris, pawnbroker, for £lO, before going to prison. Upon his
bath he did know that his present statement upon the balance
sheet' was defective. He had no sinister motive in it; and it
tnust be ignorance on his part if there was any such defect.
Mr. Wilkins inquired of the commissioner if he thought they
could gO on with the case in its present state ?
The Commissioner thought he might. The special balance
sheet was extremely defective.' In one part it stated that he had
received in perquisites about £l4, which was at variance with
his testimony as'to this matter, that he had received nearly four
times that amount. The whole of his receipts and expenditure
ought also to be inserted on this balance sheet. Why, (he
asked the petitioner,) with this .watch in his pocket at the time
he was arrested, did he pledge it? it being able to pay the
whole of his debts.
Petitioner.-1 did not consider the watch was mine.
'Mr. Wilkins.—Now, if this watch was not your own, how
happened it that vou took the liberty, on the 29th of October,
of yawning it, and from the prbceeds to pay part of your debts ?
Petitioner.—Under the hope that I should again release it ;
and, moreover, I wanted something to subsist upon in gaol.
The petitioner had paid several small debts, reducing the £lO
he had got for the watch to £6. 10s. He had made no offer 'at
all to the detaining creditor whilst he was in gaol. He was not
master ()Ibis own acts in that case. His detaining creditor had
brought-an action against him for false imprisonment, and had
£sAwarded to hint, and the costs amounted to £l4 19s. The
Watch Committee paid his expenses in the law-suit, which took
,thematter out of his hands; and he had none of the manage-
ment at all of its s ,
Cointaissioner,—l now don't understand it. The Watch'
Committee paid your legal expenses.
. Petitioner—Yes, Sir.
Counnissioner.—And the question of the learned counsel 'is,
why, having raised money on this watch; you did not offer your
detaining creditor something, during your imprisonment ? Be-
cause this is not a surpriSe. Your detaining creditor brings an
action against you ; you•defend it—a jury of twelve free, honest.
men find a verdict againstayouin a certain sum. • I ask you why
you did not offer to that tan, some compensation.? You say,
" Beeause I was not niasterad my own ections.".'What do you
mean tiY Pak ?"
--
Petsitienae.—l mean to say, the Watch cso: mmittees took it
up front the commencements arui 1... ad not think myself justi-
fied,in interfering afterwards.
• .Comchissiouer.—Why, did yoninot offer somethings?
Petitioner.—I saw he was so axious to get me pntin prison;
that I thoight it peefectlY tiseleas- to-make- offers.' 'He was so
embittered against me that he would have nothing less than
making me suffer in person for it. • •
The Petitioner then went on. No`Otig had forrbid him to pay
the 'debt;: and no one had requested him to pay it." He had
never asked.the Watch Committee topes the damages for him ;-
-Mr.`Davenportleelsed to him alone for ihe costs of the present
ptoeeedings.: He had received no money since he went to gaol.
„He _expected VI be restored into the .police force. He knew
Mr. Lythgoe, the keeper of the Bridewell. He had never ehewn
him any gold chains or seals. That be would swear. He never.
had any appendages to. his, watch. He knew Miss Hornby.
He bought his watch there. Two gentlemen were with him
when he bought it. • One was Mr. Highton, clerk in the Watch
Office, and the other was Mr. Poole, an inspector of police.
Mr. Wilkinson inquired if Mr. Poole was in court, and he
was ordered to withdraw. •- • -
The petitioner said. in continuatioti,; he had given his watch
to Mr. Morley i
to pledge for hint. He did-nit know whether it
was pledged in his AMr. M. S) name, or in his own. The
watch Was pledged before be went to prison. He had been in
the receipt of the gaol allowance, 38 6:1 per week, since he had
been in prison. 'He had two poendi in hand then. He had
expended in-about nine months £72. 7s. Od. in maintenance
and lodgings. He spent so Much above his board_ and lodgings,
as he could not at all times get home to his meals ; and being
out all night, as he Often was, he -frequently .required refresh-
ment. The amount of tines stated had passed through his hands,
but there was scarcely any information laid by him, in which
he had not a private eonstrble -or constables as witnesses, to
whom he generally lave -more, than l-aso-thirds of what be re-
ceived.
Miss Eliza HorribPeanibrirfa She -deposed to selling the
petitioner a gold-watch' in, the beginning of September, -and
that he ordered Andrew Edward Lyon .lobe engraved Upon
it. He paid £19:"I0s:Od'. for it. Sipe' 'had seen the watch af-
terwards, and there was tici'tnain or Seal to it.
Mr. Charles Falcons Depots,. Itegistrar of the: Court, read
time record of the action and verdict of the court entered against
petitioner Whendefendant. The petitioner had challenged se-
veral of the jury on that trial.
Sirs Morris, pawnbroker,' deposed' to a person named

Mr. Berry was then sent for-
The Commissioner said—The difficulty this manwill have to
struggle with will be this; a man is be discharged an insol;
vent debtor, and es insolvent, that ts, who, at the tune of hie al.;
rest, is not able to pay the Money that he owes to his creditors.
Now, that man had, within a very few. shillings, a watch that,
would pay to the uttnUst.farthing every thing he owes. He had
some little money left, and the whole of his. debts at this PCIII2
'Dent are £2l 13. 4d., which he seeks to get rid of; he says
don't owe another farthing in the world. I am arrested On
the 29th October; and I will not pay these debts I owe.'' He,
wishes then to make a statement as if this watch were his'
cousin's. What is the fact? His cousin makes him a present
of £l3 to pay for a watch, for that is the plain and simple infer.
ence,—and tells him to put his name on it. Then comes the
question, whether or not this act of Parliament is intended for
the relief of a man who his money, or money'-worth, in h's
posSession, equal to the payment of every' debt he owes in the
world. And if he has that property, and then omits ,ts mentint
in the statement he makes,, is the act intended for his benefit :+
That is the question divested of every other spirit, or feeline,.,
or circumstance, which I cannot stultify myself so much as. not
to perceive, as thrown into his consideration.. It will become a
very serious question not merely for the perposes of to-day.—
It will become a very serious question, indeed, on the evidence
or Mr. Berry.
Another . case was then gone on with till the arrival of Mr.
Berry, and in about half an hour the hearing was resumed.
• Mr. Berry_was then closely examined, but his examination
went to peoathat.he had never to his recollection seen a chain
attached ttexth2„..watch. • He had seen the watch frequentle,--.
He eeeiskingtougerar.positively that he (petitioner) had not the
Mr. Lythgoe- was' then recalled at the4equest of the ppetiti-
oner er had told him it waS4t4zuldChain..- •On his
oatitieieiPitftaiktton to;,,,Win was not got n pat., Publicans and
beer..541.0040-,.kis knowledge. On -his Ictithr ,he. had not=sas a
publieuefidn. At-the instance of any of his Agave tradesmeni
come fora:Tord that day to give evidence against:hull.
lected the e
ichain because he had a particular reason for olisery
Mg it: His reason was, he could not help thinkingiequere that_
he (petitioner) could get a gold watch and when,. lie
(witness) had been so long in the police.,.anci.could get:neither
watch nor chain. (There was a general buzz of laughter in,
Court at this announcement, which was immediately repressed
by the CoMmissioner and severely commented upon.) He was
now a licensed victualler, • On his solemn oath, neitherpiieetly
nor indirectly had he had any-quarrel with the petitioner,' .
Thomas Shelley, the keeper of the Bridewell was itets'call-
ed to prove that he had seen the gold chain; Cut his.evidence
only went, to prove that he had seen the watch.
Thomas Ainsworth, Constable, deposed to having seen a chain
of the colour of Gold, worn by the insolvent in his waistcoat,
as watch guard chains. usually are, It was about a fortnight
before he went to gaol. He had not seen it either before or
since. He had had no quarrel whatever with him. .„
The petitioner then recalled Mr. Berry, to prove that ho had
uever on any occasion seen a chain.
John Martin, Inspector of Police, examined—He had, seen
the petitioner nearly every day during the last twelve months.
He had never seen him wear a gold chain. He should think
he could not have worn it without his seeing it.
Cross-examined by Mr. Wilkins.—There was an actien pend-
ing against him at the next Assizes on the same charge as the
one against the prisoner.
Mr. William Hatch deposed that he had seen the petitioner
constantly, but had never seen a gold chain. .
John Poole, Inspector of Police, had repeatedly seen the pe-
titioaer during the last 8 or 9 mouths, and
.had also seen the
watch, but he had never seen a chain affixed to it.
Cross-examined by Mr. Wilkins.—There was an action pend-
ing against him at the next assizes on similar grounds to the
action against the petitioner. The petitioner had toll him that
his cousin had sent him a sum of money to purchase a watch.
Mr. Wilkins then addressed the commissioner on behalf or
his client. Ile said, I can have only one object in standing'up
to address you, and that object to further the interest of my
client. But it does very frequently happen that the interests
both of the plaintiff and the defendant, if I may so speak, are
the same; and I put it to you, as a matter of mercy to the in-
solvent, as well as for the interest of my client, whether, without
my making any further comment, it would not be better to ad-
journ this case to the next sitting ; that, in the meantime, an
opportunity may be given to the insolvent to save himself from
the awful consequences which must, from the evidence devolve
upon him, and my client's interests be thereby served.. If it
cannot be done, I must proceed; but I am anxious that it should
be done.
Commissioner.--Insolvent, you may confer with yonfatter-
ney, if you please, on what has fallen from..the counsel, and
then say-whether the case is to proceed or not. Form no rapid
judgment. .
. The, petitioner then conferred with Mr. Davenpori, and first
wished his ease.adjtmrned, but aftervvards altered his determina-
tion, and begged that•his petition might be dismissed..
Coinmissiener.e-e1 will only make one observation to yeti. I
think Mr. Davenport has civet' you very good advice,:and I
.think you have been very judicious in acceding to. it. lam
spared what-would be rather -irksome to me, to deliver theim-
pressions that Int present entertain, subject of course to be re-
moved by anything, you might .have to state. I have only one
more observation to make, now this case is over. It ought not
to he a-matter of party feeling or of triumph to any our.
Mr. Wilkins.-e Certainly not. I beg to say that was one Of
the principal reasons for my throwing out the observations
which I did.
Commissioner.--Petition discharged.
The case orcupied from half-past ten in the morning till three
o'clock in. the afternoon, and seemed to excite much interest.
The court was thronged with Inspectors of Police the whole

THE LIVERPOOL STANDA.RD.

the poor, and satfitactiou and peace to the habitation and hearts
of the rich—a state or things most devoutly to be desired. by
everyiniier of his country and his God. (Cheers.) To carry
on this principle of total abstinence extensively and permanently
in Liverpool, it was their earnest request that they (the gentle-
men present) would not cause or permit those who were em-
plo)ed by them to be exposed to temptation by their wages
being paid or divided where the intoxicating draught was sold,
(hear, hear, and cheerS)--nor stiffer them' to be stimulated to
hazardOus or arduous labour by the offer or gift of strong drink.
'Feeling assisted and encouraged in this manner, they would
piirsite. their labour unremitting, relying on the blessing of
I-leaven for the triumphant success. Pathers and mothers, En-
gtishmen—men of common sense, (said Mr. Jones) if you love
yourselves—it' you love your families, your country, and your
God, come forward and adopt the Total AbStinence pledge, and
keep it. (Cheers.) Witb these few remarks he begged leave
to. move, "That the prosPectus which had been read by the Se-

cretary be adopted:"
Mr. SAMUEL 11 oeeturs said, I rise to second the resolution
moved by our friend John Jones, in doing which 1 beg lease to
call the attention of the ladies and gentlemen here assembled
to the necessity there is of (laving a place convenient, and at
the same time commodious enough to hold our meeting in, when
we daily see the fearful Consequences of drunkenness—when we
too frequently hear of individuals being hurried out of time into
an awful eternity in a wretched state of drunkenness, we must
see the necessity there is of endeavouring to prevent the fre-
quency of intoxication by skewing the dreadful results which
arise therefrom. When I look at the liberality displayed by
our Liverpool gentry in aiding and assisting our missionaries in
the propagation of the Gospel amongst the heathens, surely I
may anticipate their readiness to come forward to assist us in
unshackling the chains which bind our worse than heathen
brethren at home. No man ever had the hardihood to deny that
the effects of drunkenness were ruinous both to the soul and to
the body, and if we refer to holy writ 'we shall there find that
the drunkard never can inherit the kingdoir. of God ; it there-
fore behoves every one of us to come forward and to endeavour
to ameliorate the condition of our fellow creatures by endea-
vouring to .make them sober and useful members of society.
Not doubting but this end, once gained, they will then begin to
attend their respective places of worship, and the happy results
may be the salvation of' their souls. Solomon, that great, that
, wise man, in sneakiug,of the sin of drunkenness, asks, "Who
bath woe, who ,liathee,srew. who bath babbling, who hath con-
tentiOeS,, who bath. wounds without, pause, who bath redness of
eyes?'-' and intuit t4.rpeiy7can any one' oubt its truth--:does
it not carry: conviction along' With'lc ?—" They Who tarry long
at the winelsyfillorpteto seek mixed wine." Again he
says. '‘, Ail rtv wt, iiii ,,,.,10t iiel with poverty, alit! want
4461
shall xaw - Aki,ftmAinan." Have we not nu-
merotis e_xiAiges,4,7lhts eVrineitat Oyes' Look to our work-
bouseS7-, oi# wisous—tioriam tcc'as) loins—ati is, hospitals, and
see therej:LareAhey not full, y to overflowing, the
c icti ins of intijrriperatice.?—and" yet iti our ti ay _Men can be found
prostituting like tittle taillit,thiv possess by preaching up the
lienefit to be derived_ from ttitiixiCating drinks. Yes,- it has beeri
asserted that:the use of this soul'clainning stuff (fur I can Jail
it nu, betfri) ought to be tolerated in consequence sof the revenue
which the nation derives from them. 'fills I say, Ladies and
Gentlemen, is neither more nor less than madness, yea, the me-
Janchely. madness of politics, without one particle of common
Sense. Supposing for a moment that the use of intoxicating
idrinkS do increase the revenue . does it not at the same time
must fearfully increase indiVidual poverty ?--not that poverty
which weans the soul from earth and fixes the desires on high—
no, but bqualid, ever-mUrniu ring poverty—purposeless, hopeless,
miserable iu the midst of wealth—a poverty which alike dwarfs
and diseases both the body and the. mind. Need I then, Ladies
and Gentleineu, further intreat of you to come forward and to
assist us •in this ;;rear undertaking ?' Need 1 further explain to
you the necessity there is for such an establishment as that
mentioned in the prospectus, to.induce you to come forward and
assist us both by your precept "and your example ? No, 1 feel
it is unneeessary—the many cheerful faces I see here convinces
me that you will come forward and assist us in the furtherance
of so great au object ; and soon, very sJon, -vou will see that
thousands, yea millions, of your now"wretched fellow-creatures
will have to bless God fur the formation of Temperance Societies.

A letter which Mr. William Itathbone had sent to the chair-
man was then read. It stated Mr. Rathbone's coucurrence

with the objects of the meeting; and urged, at the same time,
the necessity of a taste for the.good and the beautiful being in-
culcated amongst the poor, as the best means of seconding the
wishes of the society.
Mr. EDWARD COWPER rose with feelings of pleasure to pro,
pose the second resolution. -He was proud to see the gentle-
men who had come forward in support of Tee-totalism. Tie
was proud, not beeauae of their wealth or their property, but on
account of their principles. Tee-totalism was like the green
bay tree. Last year it was but a sprout, but now it had taken
root and had put forth seven thousand branches. The resolu-
tion which he had to propose was,—" That it was the bounden
duty of every Tee-totaler, for the sake of forwarding their glo-
rious undertakings, to come forward promptly and secure
shares.'!

Ma. BOOTH secended the motion. His Majesty the King,
he said there was reason to believe, would soon be one of them, ,
he would soon be'a Tee-totaler., (Great applause.)
The band 604 Teetotalers, which occupied the orchestra, ,
m»ninencecco4.'Ying "Gml Save the King," but were checked
by the 0140-man': Thd audience, however, were loud iu their
calls, foiVie anthem.
The'CititiltidAN at length said, it would be better to hear Mr.
Booth tOTCoin2lusion,`and then, if they pleased, "God save the
King" cinild pllyed.
' Mr. BOOTH said he was ,1,1,1 that he had at least drawn from
the T e e-to talers a proof of their loyalty. Mr. Booth expatiat-
ed at some length on the evils of drunkenness, and on the ex-
cellence of their society. He concluded with an earnest appeal
to the audience in favour of the scheme, and by seconding the
'notion.
The resolution was carried.
The multitude again called loudly for " God save the King,"
`which was. played. '
Mr. BLACK stepped forward and said, the resolution which be
had to propose was as follows:—"That the meeting pledged itself
to renewed exertions in this undertaking, and in forwarding the
cause of Tee-totalisin generally." He called upon that respec-
, table meeting genet ally to join in the sentiment of the resolu-
tion, and to come forward and assist them. If they accom-
plished the object, which no doubt they would-be able to do,
-they would enable them to catch druukards, (for it was a catch, )
and to give them the blessings of a sober life. They had now
been so successful that they enrolled 325 members weekly, and
he had no doubt that they would soon enrol 700 weekly;'i
Mr. Jotik GARNETT seconded the resolution. Ile set forth
the s access which bad hitherto attended their endeavours, and
the evils attendent upon a course of dissipated habits. A per-
soil who had written in the London prints had called their ef-
forts a temperance mania, tie thanked him fur the compli-
ment, and he hoped it was a mania which would spread all over
England.
M. DAVID LECKIE proposed the fourth resolution as fol-
lows :—"That it is hoped the minor consideration of pounds,
shillings, and pence, in taking shares, will be viewed only in a
secondary light; the welfare and happiness of the inhabitants
of Liverpool being the principal object in view."
Mr. WasTwlck seconded the resolution. After stating the
proportion of ardent spirits which were drunk by the inhabi-
tants of England, Ireland, and Scotland, he urged the meeting
to come forward, and by their subscriptions help to put a stop
to the growing evil.—This resolution was put and carried.
Mr. ROBEItT KELLY moved the fourth resolution, " That the
meeting viewing the rapid progress which the total abstinence
principle had made since its formation, desire to rest their hopes
of success on Almighty God, who alone could crown their efforts
with success." Mr. Kelly went into a lengthened detail of the
history of the Total Abstinence Society, which lie stated, origi-
givally sprung, from a meeting of six individuals. They had
now belonging to the society, he said, 7,999 adults, and 976
youths.
Mr. Rohner JONES seconded the resolution, which was car-
ried unanimously.
Mr. McocaLe proposed that the thanks of the meeting be
given to the provisional committee.—Carried.
Mr.- H. JONES moved the thanks of the meeting to Lawrence
Heyworth, Esq., for his able conduct in the chair.
Mr: HUY wourn returned thanks, and, slto,rtly afte.,ards the
meeting separated..., , .

enced it in the truest sense of the word I began the world with
aigood fortunefreinds & Prospects and a sound constitition.lint
by being' drawn in the Vortex of the drunkard because by
degrees. the 'most. wretched of mankind and I know too how
impossihtr it is for you who go about endeavouring to releiye
the sufferings of your fellow Creatures to affect your objects
Without you can Prevail im the authors of their misiry to ab-
stain from strong drinks & von cannot Consistenly do this if
you do not abstain from theni your selves---I was led by divine
Providence to Join this sooty when its numbers were few its
means scanty & its enemies numerous we worked hard under.
these dificultys in a cause that we had received benifits of the
very highest order from & we wished to extend them to others
to all the world if Possible our efforts at that time reminded me
of some Poor men I had seen when a boy working a Coal Pit
hoisting by the Labour of there hands need not say how
slowly their work Proceded I - saw them some time after they.
had a steam engine-at work they then got on Rapidly divine
Providence soon raised us up a Powerful engine in the shape of
J Cropper Es befor this happened we were delighted to obtain
5-6 names of a night to our society since that time we have
frequently received near 200 of night & now a few words as to
the fruits of this Cause for a tree is known by its fruits the infi-
del is reclaimed the sabbath breaker no longer violates that
command blasphemy is uo longer heard -its our streets nor
raggedness •and misiry so far as teetotaler are concerned the
Tory & Radical are better toots or radicals and the same as to
their creed having these veiws on the subject I say in the word
of the resolution it is your Bounden duty-to come for Ward &
aid us in this cause J Boons

DINNER OF THE EVERTON AND XIIIKDALE
CONSERVATIVE WARD ASSOCIATION.

On Tuesday night last, the members of this association, which
has been recently established, dined together at Mrs. Stretch's,
the Liver Inn, Kirkdale. The dinner was laid out in two large
rooms up stairs, which were ornamented with festoons of ever.
greens hung from the ceiling, and with a number of very hand-
some flags. At the upper end of the large room, behind the
chairman's seat, was the very handsome large crimson and blue
silk flag of the Tradesmen's Conservative Association; bearing
the inscription, in gold letters on scrolls, "Our free and glorious
Constitution," "Church and King," " Lords and Commons,"
and at the bottom, " Liverpool Tradesmen's Conservative As-
sociation." Opposite to this, at the bottom of the room, was a
very handsome crimson and silk flag, with the inscription, in
gold letters, " Presented by the Ladies of. Evertou to the Ever-
ton and Kirkdale Conservative Association," and at the bottom,
"Fear the Lordand the King; meddle not with !limn that are
given to change." The sides of the rooms were also ornamented
with equally. handsome silk flags. • Ou one, a very handsome
one, having in the centre the crown and bible, surrounded with
the rose, the shamrock, and the thistle, We obServed the iuscrip-
tion, "By their principles and their numbers," King and
Conititution in Church and State," " May their princitees geow
with their growth and strengthen with their strength:" About
one hundred gentlemen sat down to, a very excellent dinner.
Mr. Miles Barton' occupied the chair and 'Mrs lthskell the.
vice-chair. After the cloth had been•rertievede "Non nobis
domino" was sung in fine style by a'fiest-rtren cesinOorrif ,glee
singers. • The Chairman then gave "The2Karg,7-vrith, lhree
times three. The anthem of " God sane the. 'King" was. then
splendidly sung, accompanied by Mr. George Holden on.the
piano-forte. "The Queen," with three 'tones three; The
Princess Victoria and the rest of the Royal Family," with three
times three; "The British Constitution in Church and State,"
with three times three," and "The Army and Navy," were then
given. Captain Richardson, in a neat speech, responded to
the toast of the Army and Navy. "The four Conservative
members fOr the county," "'1 he member for the borough,Lord Sandon," " The Duke," "Lord Lyndhurst and the
House of Peers," Sir Robert Peel and the Conservative mem-
bers of the House of Commons," were then given by the Chair-
man and enthusiastically responed to. " The health of Mr.
James Hayworth," was then given, "the Censer vative member
for Everton Ward." The toast was enthusiastically received
with three times three cheers and one more. ' •':
Mr. lievwoinen, in responding to the toast, said, he should,
indeed, be destitute of every feeling of grateful emotion, if he
did not, on that occasion, most deeply appreciate the honour-
able and flattering position which they had bestowed upon him.
His friend, their worthy chairman, had stated his embarrass-
meat in proposing his health, but if his (the chairman's) em-
barrassment was great, his (Mr. Heyworth's) must be doubly
so. They were well aware of the peculiar circumstances in
which he was placed, that it could not be an object of very de-
sirable ambition, on his part, to go into the Town Council. lie
mentioned this, in order that there might not be attached to thin
any supposed disregard of their kind opinion whether before
or since, in his standing aloof from the election, of the mo-
tives that influenced then: in selecting him out as a proper
individual. By their zeal and energy they had obtained a vic-
tory over their opponents. His sentiments had uniformly been
the same—those by which he had obtained his present position.
In choosing him out as they had done, they had laid him under
a debt of gratitude such as he could not then express to them.
(Hear.) It would not be expected, that ou such an occasion
as that, he should trespass too much on 'their time. He wished
he could only announce in still stronger language than he had
done, his opposition to those measures to which they were op-
posed, but, he believed, it might be said of truth as of loveli-
uess, •` that it needs not the foreign aid of ornament, but is when
unadorned, adorned the most." (Hear:) They all knew from
the present constitution of the town of Liverpool, how very in-
efficient any man's services must be there, for where there was
an iminense and servile majority opposed to public opinion, and
where there was no possibility of making an impression on those
who differed from them in opinion, they would see that if. he did
not render very efficient services it was not his own fault. He
preferred no claim to talent, but situated as he was, if he had
the power of a giant in wisdom and skill it would he all per-
fectly unavailable, and would fall like dust on the cedar tree or
the oak ; it would be perfectly impracticable to mike an im-
pression on the council. (Hear.) They must look to the elec-
tors only of every ward in the town to rectify this. (Cheers.)
He did not consider that the council had treated the electors as
it ought to have treated them. He considered that deep dis-
honour had been inflicted on every councillor in the town. Ile
would say nothing there that he would hesitate to. say in the
council. When he had a principle to contend for in the .
pre-
sence of en enemy, that ?rimy e he would contend fur, how-
ever.
inefficient or howeyer imperfect he might be. (Hear.)
When Lord John Russell first ietroduced, the municipal re-
form bill, he ushered it into notice by.stating that the old con-
perations had become perfect nuisances in as much ae they were
Political engines. What had been the conduct of
.the corpora-
tions under the municipal reform act? Had- they.become less
-political? Did- L'Oid -John Russell believe in his heart that the
new town councils under the reform act would conciliate and be
less political in their nature, and be inure disposed towards
effecting the good local government and adhantage of the towns
in which they existed He must say he was either strangely ig-
norant of the workiugs'of than bill, or it was a piece of thorough-
going Whig trickery. ,(Hear, hear.) In either case he was
in a dilemma; for in one case he was ignorant of the workings
of his own bill, or in the other it was a bill deceitfully esta-
blished, under a false pretext, top carry out a political and party
end. 'The event was this: the; council was a perfectly political
body, and nut any subject came under its decision but it was
treated as a political question, and by a rule of political adjudi-
cation every question was disposed of; and the worst of it was,
that questions were not even left for the adjudication of the
council in their deliberations at the Town-hall, but the members
of the council congregated in masses at the • Angel Inn, to the
extent of forty in number, for the predecision of questions to
come under discuision at the Town-hall. And who were they
convened by? By some great leader of the opposition? No;
it was a purely political convening. They were convened Iy
the secretary of the Reform Association. (Loud cries of " Hear,
hear.") It this did not give this section of the council the cha-
racter of a political cabal, he did not know what could. On the
occasion of electing the committee of the dock trust, there was
a meeting of forty members of the council to pre-arrange their
party. It was, to say the least of it, an act of the most paltry
cowardice, for there were only ten members of the council
against them. The corporation was a mere political cabal, fol-
lowing, precisely in the footsteps of O'Connell. (Hear.) Mr.
Iles-worth then read an extract from a speech of Mr. O'Con-
nell, as reported in the London rates, stating the manner in
which coliisiou bad been avoided hetween his party and Mr.
nrstuenitieni seem
Sharman Crawford's. on a recent occasion in Dublin, by pre-
Iltre hahebehn filvbured with the fellow ing speeches, which we arrangement. Mr. Ileyworth contended it was preciselyen this
eiticlerstand were, deliver-ed at the late Tee-total-Temperance way that these coinnion councilmen hi;enid themselves hand and
M acting; Their authors, complain that theyare omitted in tire- foot at a meeting at the Angel
Inn, nod cause prepared, whets
reports-Which have appeared. In order tO gratifynhein and ever discussion might arise in the council, to vote all one wee,.
our resideis, we have printed them literatim from, their maim- ( Loud cheers.) Ile would ask the electors of Isiverpeol whel
scripts ther common sense was not stultified. by such a proceeding?
Mr. D 1,4 IF, Lthitte—Mr. Chairman Ladies and Gentlemen
.(Heaeo He had another section of their toast to reply ten, and
—After the volley of applause which has burst forth from all that had reference particularly to the cense, of. conservatives—
sides at my rising.l feel no ordinary degree of embarrasineut at a cause whielnhe knew tnheexceedingly'tlear to„their feelings,
summoned; to address such an assembly of respectability, of as it embraced every thing that was vaheatile to their fainilies
talents and last though not least of beauty which sheds its ratli- and to titr.,
community at large. They knew that on the princi-
eat halo around us, lam sure Sir in this age of benevolence pies of conservatism rightly expounded and rightly executed
when so Much is doing to drive away the darkness and delusions depended the stability of the threne and of the whole crinst it ii-
of so inany'generations to diffuse light and truth threughout the thin of these realms. There was a great oppositiou to censer.
earth, it Must eXelte,the liveliest joy in every philanthepie bo- vative associations when they first dawned in London, and one
sons to witness its. ttiumphe.nt results. Recent efforts to banish individual of very considerable authority heel expressed his
the rise of intoxicatinlf drinks have brought vast numbers to a doubts as to the propriety of such proceedings; and unleseet
solemn pause, and this work of reformation has gone so far, very strong case of necessity had been made, out, lie should
and is still making suith- sure progress that thousands are have said it would be very desirable for indivitivats connected
ring in the lively hope that the day is net Tar distant when the together in societies not to become opaosed to each other ; but
Monster of intemperance44o,ll. be banished bruin our shores, what would have been the consequence, if Sonic steps had not
when the gospel et the Grace'nf shall have free course run been taken in support of conservative principles, when treason
and be glorified; and the-whole faintly of man shall become and rebellion were stalking abroad threeseli the land nuder the
temperatrehol,g and happy, But then Sir ere that happy period specious garb of "reform." (Ilear.) il
arrive there is much ground to be occupied, inauy a battle must whether Lord Stanley would not say thateexp‘e.erlienne'nehtl doubtedili,ri:s
,yd
be fought, many a victory must be won, over custom passion that he was wrong, and the conservatives, as a body, right,
ignorance and interest and much darkness must set be driven Conservatism had now attained a majority, and it was spread-
away, away, our SohietY 'Sir as done much to effect this And mueli ing through the land to its utmost lei t, and breadth. .
iFhat
-yet remains to be (done, I look forward to time when it will day week the society which was then
effect the a riihillatinh of what princes from their thrum's have being, and they already saw its gigantic form. (Cheeis.) They
failed to Abolish Genereis at the head of A rinies have vainly en- wet Wits. brought nto
saw now the influence of conservatism pervadiugsthe. whole of
deavotired to avoid, and Senators. & Legislators who have oriel- society, and the time was not far distant when ehe- who,te nation
Ile would jest allude to
,ded the.destinies of Europe have been unable to-stop; while hu- would- be conservatives. (Cheers.)
teianitte as recoiled and Military.tribunals have endeavoured to the decision which had taken place in the couucit on tlio school.
.eorrimute. yet depravity and 'drunkeneess have forced frond its questiOn. That decision they would all regret was one ptoduc-
bidieeplace, I look forward to the time when corporal punish- five of great injury to society. It was true the former, resole-
meat shall be banished from time Land when thelash which as lion of the council on this subject had given rise to a feeling of
'always beehnhn Reward of Drunketiess shall be abolished from liberality in the town, but no thanks to the corporation fur it.
the British Forces an act which will add•more to Britian, G, I"rY That liberality had been an exhibition of sound protestant feel-
Than Traitatgar or en Waterloo who can travel,,e t,h,rouh the ing; it had by evil weeps been brought about, but it meet be
neighbouroohds surrounding this building and mono the van- highly gratifying to every individual attached to the instittitions
flue drani Shops - rising -in illuminated Gold amid the ruin of of the country. If that text which he saw on the splendid flag
vinedsacotfedtlaies
tihneeymhbaedrsdooafet—he“ tplwanr
their depraved Votaries and not weep for the fate of his fellow= which had been presented to_ the association by the ladiee of
man whose viciated taste maintain such ruthless pandersers to Everton had bweaeanidinat,h,te
hnai
his depraved appetite I shall now conclude by moving the follow- council, they
tog resolution. • the Loid and the King; meddle not with them that are giev
Resolved that the , Minor consideration of Pounds Shillings to change." (Hear.) He could neither see the fear of t e
aed Peticebe.viewed oniv-in a Secondary light but that. Lord, nor the fear of the King, nor stability of purpose in Cat'
welfare khatittpinees & inerals of the inhibitaut of Liverpool alterations that had been made. He considered the system eal
,
be the obAntsintView• education introduced calculated to supplant sound religion and
sound learning. It introduced into the minds of the poor of the.
Sirh;e-V,:t`dieti "& 'Gent I feel a Painful.dificulty in adressing
town latitudinarian principles, and the operation of these schools
111 . trig I now see & the only thought that
Inge in a very short time be found opposed to all description of
aunpOrts then
ePlt9fi' thee:lam Convinced there is not one to' all morality, and to all, sound education. An at-
dual.Pneselif haVerstoe expecting to hear 'Good religion,
been
spehehes butiOev months were outcasts & a tempt
together thninne to unite what never could be united—to
could never
ihvaeareraicficeeiendgeP, rotestant end, Roman Catholic into one
burden toiiiAfiThdtffttl to themselves & all around them but
who haye been Elillnnitited front this' degraded -state through t(hiaeadßiclehleese,'rtoi-4h)ichheetahiel.sepriontesthtaatiniri.::)rketiist
tbe meane of, 'libMitißlhgroliCall fermented or intoxacating
e tbodiedthe great guide."of man through life in all his ay-
drinks as PSecribhllirretir Pledge & when I see these Gen-
tioins and its. knowledge alone can conduce to immortality
tlemen reperters ready if Arndt' Put the Cart before the horse
hereafter.o, Theynneee not to be deterred from this; they had
to tithe advantege .of it as I hold a Paper in my hand stateiug,
thefehe Teleirtiph • will tell all about it tomorrow buteaad
Chris)l' res Pleaded to the offers that hail been made them by
this 01'4 no(Prevent me. from advocating thee great c".s taen,saadehad come forward on Protestant principle- to
000 of our erect sehOnla en which they might have the entire word of God
alAreinhe .lakenifite I Have received as well as 200-
TerloWAnWh*iiit,''Great 13ritan & Ireland alone but before I rend 1.? them. He was sorry to be compelled to comment on
biein tS'iMuly*lith to 'slate Stime-Pleasing intelligence I have their (councillors as he had done, hut he was not of that nature
rr ivd Boni' 1
our Good,, say there before them what he would not say liefere the Coun-
ee46ePlibliC Prints that in all ProhilitY
King God bless' liffititi likely soon to be a tee Waller as there ise cil when the opportunity offered. He' believed he might say
Ole one certain Wineln his Callers he can think & that but they would.. give bins credit for that. (Hear.) He would riot
be got Like neve longer detain them. He concluded with proposing " the woe:thy
& 'when it is done no wore 4!,111 Con..
Great that is, cal: chairman Mr. Miles Barton, end success to the Kirkdale t
if hill of ;the least importance to this
datedlo Bring' sit much Prams & happiness to the riidi ape) Seraiitive. Associa thin." The chairman acknowledged the tons,;
cmnfort's to the Pine: & to releive the the-already Burdened Mr. Potter -proposed "the health of Charles, Hersh:ll, Esq.,.e.
iesreesmate of a great Portion of the Pour rates &c 11141. malty which was responded to in a very eloquent manlier by
,'pro ever mole it Moderately & under divine Grace never would B. Horsfall. It was not to be expected that his latlier'sdsheimis„.l.
a most Peculiar manner been could be of much avail when,
kve beteine drunkard have in
them of usefulness Illessed & a vvider'spere opened to • ulness & better opposed by a majority of 59. A grest outcry had` been weer ry
ni every ether respect through totally abstaining from intoxacae , Dissenters against the payment of church rat,
"the Church:—
as ooe out of 5, he could
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flog drink it has lone been thought that a Confirmed Drunkard j been one of their grand grounds of attack
fo
wes ii reclaimable Carracter but that Idea is now laid asiii.e What was the fact ? Thirty eight fortieths
to
e. ear £600,000 had
if is imeessible for me to describe the misery the drunkerd were subscribed by Protestants. The la- churchmen
tnh e ta:hdu rtchha tr
ahtaesi
!kings on himself and on all around him thoughthave expeilS 'been, subscribed for Church rates, out of which sum
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