The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1841-12-03 00:00:00

A SKETCH IN THE TOWN COUNCIL

The principal feature of the proceedings on Wednesday
was, of course, the debate upon what Mr. Thomas Bolton
styles the " eddication" question. An amusing preliminary
skirmish, however, took place upon the question of increasing
the salary of the Superintendent of St. James's Market, in
which Mr. Alderman Evans displayed, ha usual, the extreme
largeness of his opinion of himself. "It was I who lowered
this salary," exclaimed the magnificent alderman ; ergo--
the council must not object to raise it at my suggestion.
Mr. Alderman Evans may be, and, we have no doubt, is►
a very clever personage ; but lie mistakes most sadly his
changed position in the council since those palmy days %hen
he might, indeed, have said in the lofty verbiage of Coriolanus
that—

" Like an eagle in a dove cot, I
Fluttered your Volscians in Corioli."

At present, however, his attempts to play the Roman, or to
imitate the grandeur of the Bird of Jove, only remind us of
the attempt of a dwarf to enact the former, or of a turkey'
cock to imitate the latter.
Poor Francis Jordan ! Reader, have you ever seen the
countenance of a mastiff, when in the act of being " choked
off" from some dainty morsel which he has abstracted from
the larder or from a butcher's stall? If you have, we need
scarcely describe to you that of the " old campaigner," when
the snug piece of patronage in favour of his market protogee
was wrested by the voice of the council from his very jaws.
By the bye, whilst on this subject, will Mr. Alderman
Evans, who " is versed in the biography of superintendents
of; markets," give us a chapter, in any work with which be
may occupy his forthcoming leisure, of the biography of
members of market committees ? Such a chapter would
contain some " moving accidents by flood and field," which
would well repay perusal.
But come we now to the question of questions, which is
the " Eddication" question ; and first of all let us briefly pay
our respects to Mr. John Smith, and his efforts to " establish
the Conservative cause" by establishing Juvenile Maynooths
for training in the ways of the old Lady of Babylon the chil-
dren of our Irish working population. Now we must say that
we infinitely prefer this throwing off the mask, discarding prin-
ciple altogether, and returning to the paths of Radicalism,
which he once, if we mistake not, adorned, and from which he
must have strayed in a thoughtless hour, to the sly, truckling,
temporizing policy which was hinted at by some other pseudo
Conservatives. We know the meaning of a man who could
propose to cut the Gordian knot of this important question,
by a proposal so monstrous as that of Mr. Smith. We know
that such a man is not a Protestant Conservative ; that his
professed attachment to the constitution of his country is a
hollow mockery ; and we know too what to do with such men
when they again present themselves to solicit the suffrages of
their fellow townsmen.
What a contrast is presented between the conservatism of j
Mr. John Smith—that spurious thing which would fondle;
with popery itself for expediency's sake—and the manly,l,
avowed, straightforward conservatism evinced on this oc-1
casion by Mr. II arliord ! Oh, how we hate to see this beating 1
about the bush—this fear of the avowal of the very principles!
which have placed them in the Council—the attempts to:
conciliate what never can be conciliated, unless it gets all its;
own way—which were but too evident on the part of more
than one, or half a dozen, of the conservatives at this meeting !
Amongst these, however, is not Mr. Harbord ; and his ad-
dress, though divested of every thing which the most fastidious
" liberal" could object to on the score of uncharitableness,.
was sound and Protestant, and entirely to the point.
One would really almost imagine from the zeal with
which
the present system—the infidel system—we are not afraid ofi
calling it by its proper name, though some conservatives
may be—laid down for the Corporation Schools, by the
late Education Committee, is defended by Mr. Thomas
Bolton, that the worthy ex-mayor had some strong personal
interests in maintaining it. No man of ordinary nerve
could have ventured to have expatiated upon the eminence
for literary abilities (I) of the gentlemen who have figured
upon that committee of consummate quackery. But, per-
haps, it is "in the bond." Popery beslavers at its meetings
the " liberal" ex-mayor of Liverpool ; and upon the princi-
ple of " caw me—caw thee," the same ex-functionary is the
subservient and active agent in forwarding the designs of
Popery in the Corporation Schools.
In strong contrast with the pertinacious hostility displayed
by the conzmon-sense Mr. Bolton against any interference
with the resolutions of the eminent literati of the late Edu-
cation Committee, how can we omit to notice the "gentle
dulness" of Mr. Gibraltar Bright, or Mr. bright Gibraltar,
who is most assuredly, in his own estimation, a comet of no
ordinary magnitude. This luminous gentleman informed
the council that he would endeavour to avoid saying anythin:
likely to create—what does the reader suppose? why, excite-
ment I Mr. Bright of Gibraltar will not create excitement—
not set the Thames, or the Mersey, or the Docks on fire, or
the fishes in them agape with awe and astonishment! Hea-
ven help the poor man ; why, he couldn't excite a silly mouse
to commit a petit larceny upon a piece of cheese—a fly to
make an inroad upon a treacle pot, or a Tom cat to dip his
whiskers into a bowl of cream. Excitement ! Oh, murder.
But Mr. Geo. Hall Lawrence ; what shall we say of his
long and studied display ? How shall we describe that which
THE SOIREE AT TILE ROYAL INSTITUTION.—The first is neither fish, fowl, flesh, substance, shadow, or anything
soiree of the season at the Royal Institution, Colquitt-street, else, visible or tangible—which is neither conservative, radi-
took place on Tuesday evening. J. Brooks Yates, Esq.,in the
chair, supported by Dr. Freckleton, W. Winstanley, Esq.,
cal, popish, nor Scocinian ; buts jumble of everything under
and S. Turner, Esq. The principal attraction of the even- the sun—a collection of negatives, which, in perfect spite of
ing was Mr. Haydon's lecture on the Life and Character of Lindley Murray, do not, after all, make an affirmative 1
Sir David Wilkie. The talented artist gave an admirable Really, Mr. Geo. Mall Lawrence, we do not very accurately
ing his recital with numerous pleasant and amusing anecdotes.
memoir of his lamented friend and fellow-student, illustrat-
comprehend your "conservatism liberalised ". We cannot
The lecture occupied upwards of an hour and a half, during at all discover what you would be at, or how you would get
which time the audience evinced the utmost attention and to it. Some day or other, no doubt, we shall be enlightened ;
pleasure. The company was not so numerous as on former
occasions._ We have no doubt that the next, at which Mr. but at present your views are a problem which we cannot
White will deliver a lecture on music, will prove very attrac- solve ; and we therefore must, in sorrow, give it up. But we
White will promenade was enlivened by the sweet notes of say no more. We trust that we have misunderstood the
the seraphine, kindly lent by E. Hardman, Esq., and played
upon by Mr. Davis. We cannot help remarking, however, leaning of Mr. Lawrence's opinions, for, in sincere truth,
that if a good band were placed in the vestibule, these soirdes we have always hoped better things from him. But why
would go off with more eclat. Several very beautiful speci- torture us with these ambiguities of speech, when one manly,
mens of iron work, lent by the Coalbrookdale Iron Company, straightforward word would settle all our doubts ?
attracted great attention. Some very choice specimens of
ns-
tine art were also lent by Dr. Reynolds and Joseph BrooksWe cannot even glance at the sayings and doings of a nu
Yates, Esq. In the theatre several prints, after Wilkie, ber of other gentlemen who figured upon this occasion, and
were hung up. from the collection of Mr. Mayer, to Mils- describe the animation of tone and manner with which Mr.
trate the lecture. We noticed also some fine paintings sent James Aiken pointed out religion as the cause of "throat-cut-
surehi by Mr. Winstanley and Mr. Palmer. We had the plea- .„ -
of inspecting the coins presented by her Majesty to tin, blood, and murder, and the direct road to a " lunatic
the institution, being part of the Cuerdale Treasure Trove, asylum ;"—how Mr. Turner, in a maiden speech—most eonci-
which excited so much attention last year,—theyaint-
are
very fine specimens. We were greatly struck by a
p liatory, bland, and shaky—drew down.the gratulations of Mr.
ing sent in by Mr. Huggins, the young artist, (whose
Alderman Earle—how that gentleman himself fretted, fide-
" Daniel in the Lions' Den, " we drew attention to getted, jumped up and sat down—played as many antics as a
some time ago, now exhibiting in the Post-office Gallery.) whole menagerie of monkeys—chattered as much broken
The subject is " Satyrane stealing time Lioness's Cubs," from
Spencers Faerie Queen. It is really every clever work, and nonsense and impertinence as a whole aviary of parrots, par-
displays not only talent but genius. The picture is composed roquets, cockatoos, and magpies, and finally exploded and
of Satyrane, a female figure, the lion, lioness, and cubs. sate down again, in a cloud of steam, and smoke, and dust
Satyraue is holding up one of the cubs at arm's length, while mingled together;—how Mr. Mellor uttered a vast quantity
he defies the angry mother. The lion is seen springing
through the gap, with a cub in its mouth, while the figure of inconsequential
of trash, which trickled from him like the
the lady crouches in an attitude of the most intense agony gin from a half-euipty cask when the vent-plug is stopped up
on a bank, a spectatress of the appalling scene. The picture and the cock foul—how Mr. Alderman Evans jerked out his
is finely conceived. The attitude of the man is bold, spirited, c
and life-like—stern, full of courage and determination. Theock-a-doodle-doo, and threw his arms about in gracefulimi-
animals are really wonderfully painted. The lion, springing tation of the motions of the telegraph—how Mr. Robinson
through the gap, appears without exaggeration to be coming declared that the Irish extracts were copied verbatim through-
from the canvas. The position of the lioness is beautifully out from the authorized version of the Bible, and fifty other
managed for effect; rage, fear, and revenge are cleverly ex-
pressed in her countenance. She has all " the wish to wound extravagauces committed upon the occasion ; but turn at
but fears to strike' The artist has given that surprizing once to time more gratifying contemplation of the conduct of
fire in the eye, that we have noticed before as peculiar to him, the few who,
in this picture, not only in the animal but in the man also.
The cubs are equally well drawn and painted. This picture " Amongst the faithless, faithful only found,"
attracted much and deserved attention. It shows a freshness stood fast to their Protestantism, and presented an unbroken
of intellect, the forerunner of greater things. The company front to the stream of conciliation, expediency, and truck-
promenaded the rooms till eleven o'clock, apparently much ling to "liberalism" by which they were surrounded. We
pleased with their evening's entertainment. The following
were amongst the company :—John Leyland, Esq., and the need not select names, which will be found in our report
Misses Leyland ; Samuel Gair, Esq., and Lady and Miss but we must single out one, Mr. David Hodgson, against
Gair; Geo. Freckleton, Esq. M.D., and Lady, and Geo.
Freckleton, jun. Esq ; Jos. B. Yates Es. and the Misses whom, in especial, the taunts, and the sneers of the whole
Yates; Samuel Bright. Esq. ; Miss Bright; Miss Heywood ; faction were directed, and who yet stood unyielding, return-
Miss Cumberland ; R. D. Heywood, Esq. ; Samuel Turing taunt for taunt scorn for scorn.
nee, Esq. ; Miss Trower ;,
Weber, Esq. and Lady ; Dr.
Scott; Dr. Duncan; Dr. Dsysdale' ng could be more dignified than the stern intrepidity
Lady; Rathbone, jun. Esq.; Dr. Carson, Lady, and • Rev. J. H. Shaw and
ofNothi demeanor which characterized Mr. Hodgson—nothing
Miss Carson ; W. S. Roscoe, Esq. • Snowball, Esq. and could be more cutting than the rebuke which his firmness
Lady ; James smith, Esq. and Lady ; Samuel Kearsley, under obloquy and misrepresentation presented to those
Esq. ; Rev. Thos. Dwyer •; Geo. Rarnsden, Esq. and Lady ; conservatives who held back in the hour of trial.--
WM. Wilson, Esq., Lady, and Miss Wilson ; Mrs. Smith Chas. Inman, Esq., Win. Inman, Esq. and R. Inman, Esq. ; "those trembling cowards who forsook their master"—
Tiles. Winstanley, Esq. Lady, and the Misses Winstanley ; except that which he administered to "Liberalism," when he
Mrs. Reeves ; John Marriott, Esq. ; Mrs. Sykes ; Raw_ asked why those gentlemen, who dilated with such mawkish
tins, Esq. ; R. C. Rawlins, Esq. ; Miss Rawlins ; Miss
Hunt; Win. Reynolds, Esq. M.D., and Lady; Richard affectation of charity' towards the Roman Catholic poor, did
Rathbone, Esq., Lady, and the Misses Rathbone ;R. R. not go to their own pockets,—as the conservatives had done
Rathbone, Esq. ; John Taylor, Esq. and Lady ; Miss Mar- when the children of the protestant poor had been thrust out
shall •, John Eden, Esq. and Lady ; S. T. Winstanley, Esq. of the schools of the
corporation by the Liberal Education
and Lady ; the Misses Rimmer ; John Askew, Esq. ; James Committee—instead of coming there to dip their fingers into
Campbell, Esq. and Lady ; M. D. Lowndes, Esq. Lady, and the pockets of the public, for the wherewith to gratify their
Mr. Lowndes, jun. . Mrs. Rector Campbell ; Buikeley abounding charity. Under this rebuke even the restless
Johnson, Esq. and Lally ; E. Fletcher, Esq. and the Misses Mr. William Earle was stilled. We could have taken his
Fletcher; A. Swainson, Esq., Lady, and time Misses Swain- likeneasssabcyomthpeatiPiohinitZgrratitoPnrnoecepsais'woerrsintond,eoirieMd ehhilliemient
son; J. G. Swainson, Esq., Lady, and Miss Swainson ; C. wax, Barber, Esq., Lady, and the Misses Barber L.
H. Stewart, Ali, in the exhibition of Tussaud.
Esq. and Lady; Yates, Esq. and Lady,- L. H. Samuel, The result of the division need we describe ? was
Esq. and Lady •D. J. Jackson, Esq. and Lady • Samuel, pictured in the chuckling expression visible upon the faces of
Esq. and the Lady
Samuel • Dr. Cohen ; David Gladstone, the entire radical body in the council; and it has struck a
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TOWN COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS

The usual monthly meeting of the Town-council was held
au Wednesday last, et eleven o'clock, in the Council Chub-
ber, within the Town-hall.

THE LATE MR. .
Mr. ISAAC HOLMES pronouncedßUNNELL a warm eulogium on the
character and talents of the late Mr. Bunnell, one of the
auditors of the corporation, and proposed that the following
resolution be entered on the books :—" That this council,
sensibl'3 of the great loss which it has experienced by the de-
cease of James Bunnell, Esq., one of the auditors of the
business of this borough, take this opportunity of testifying
their opinion of the great services which have been rendered
to the corporation by that gentleman."
Mr. ASPINALL seconded the motion, which was carried
unanimously.

PROCEEDINGS OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
A letter was read from the Secretary to the Treasury,
stating that the Lords Commissioners had sanctioned the
Sale by the Corporation to the Trustees of the Docks, of the
Strand, Graving Docks, and other property, set forth in the
tueumrial of the council, and alluded to in the act Ith
c. 30, at the price and on the terms therein specified.
Mr. EVANS found fault with the high price to be paid'for
the warehouse property purchased on George's Dock (quay,
Arr.

Mr. BOLTON observed that though the price was high, the
Purchase was exceedingly desirable, inasmuch as it was de-
sirable to make piazzas at the spot in question, in order to
promote the safety of the public.
The committee recommended to the council to allow the
Recorder, in consideration of his holding two extra courts in
each year, £5O for 6cli court.
Mr. LLOYD objected to this, and expressed an opinion that
the Recorder was amply paid, particularly when it was con-
sidered that the stipendiary magistrate relieved the sessions
court of summary convictions, and that the Assessor took
certain civil business formerly tried before the Recorder.
Mr. G. H. LAwitENcE justified the committee. and said
the business had so far increased, in consequence of the ad-

vanee of population and the vigilance of an excellent police,
that the Recorder had more business to despatch than ever.
Ile hoped the council would not refuse to sanction the re_.
commendation of the committee.

The TOWN-CLERK i;;;;"; out the assertions of Mr. Law-
rence as to the increased business of the Recorder.
The proceedings of the Finance Commitiee were confirmed.

MARKET COMMITTEE.
The proceedings of the Market Committee were read, in-
cluding the subject of increasing the salary of Mr. Luya, the
superintendent of St. James's Market, the consideration of
which was postponed at the council of the 26th ult., pursu-
ant to the standing orders.
Mr. JAS. LAWRENCE moved that the proceedings be con-
firmed, with the exception of that part relating to the salary
of Mr. Luya.

MuclicojiiVersation ensued on this subject, and several of
the conservative members expressed their agreement in the
views of Mr. Lawrence.

Mr.jCZ;A;;;ll:had caused the salary of Mr. Luya
to be cut dowh on his appointment, in order that it might be
raised if he deserved it. He had performed his duty in a
most excellent manner, and the revenues of the market had
increased under his charge. In 1837 the salary of Mr. Lace
''as £lBO, and the rental of the market was £ll5l 2s. 4d.;
Irl 1838 Mr. Lace's salary was £2OO, and the rental £llBB 4s.
'3ld. ; in 1839 Mr. Lace's salary was and the revenue
•;.1.130 7s. Id. In 1840, in the moth of January, Mr. Lace
tiled, and in February Mr. Luya was appointed at £l5O, and
the revenues of the market rose to £1414 Os. 10d. In 1841
Mr. Luya had £l5O, and the revenue was £1734 12s. 9d.
Mr. ISAAC HoLmEs denied that the duties of any of the
Market superintendents were great. Their duties did not
°ecupy them more than forty-eight hours per week ; and he
thought. Mr. Graham, superintendent of St. John's Market,
'gilt attend to all the other markets. (Hear, from Mr.
aarnnes Lawrence.)

Mr. COOPER. ridiculed the idea that the revenues of the
rnarket had been increased by the conduct of Mr. Luya. The
corporation had expended nearly 430,000 in providing extra
kiecomodation in the market, and the increase of revenue was
the natural consequence.
Mr. EVANS chewed that Mr. Luya was paid less salary
than the others who had less responsibility and less work.
MMr. MELLoR, seconded by Mr. John Smith, proposed that
r. Luva's salary should be £l7O per annum.
Mr. kusnAw spoke warmly in favour of Mr. Luya, as
tae best and most industrious superintendent in the town,
with more work to do and more revenue to collect than the
superintendent of St.,Martin's Market. Ile was better de-
serving than any of the others, yet he received less remune-
ration.

Mr. LLOYD and Mr. JAS. LAWRENCE
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The amendment was put and lost by a majority of 28 to 24.
lie original motion for referring the subject back to the
committee was carried.

EDUCATION .
The proceedings of the EducationCOMMITTEE Committee were read,
comprising a recommendation, that all resolutions of the
,ouneil confirming the proceedings of the Education Corn-
tittee, so far as such confirmations apply to proceedings of
hat committee, which in any wise purport to establish prin-
eiPies or regulations for the conduct or management of the
schools be rescinded, with the object, that die proceedings
4°f the present committee and the directions and approval of
the Council may be uncontrolled thereby, in the future
Management of the schools.
The MAYOR said, before entering upon this question, it
irculld be better to read to the council the following letter,
Which he had been requested to lay before them
• "To the Worshipful the Mayor
" and Town Council of Liverpool.
, It being generally understood, that it is in contemplation
'4° discard the Douay version of the Bible entirely froth the
,-orporation Schools, and to require that all the children
41511 use the authorised version of the Established Church,
and shall, moreover, join in a common form of prayer, at the
eginning and end of' school, the Catholic Clergy of Liver-
Pool beg, most respectfully, to state to the Council, that they
cannot conscientiously concur in such an arrangement,
jet elehy the religious principles of the Catholic children at-
e-0-'11"g tile schools will be compromised, and pray that the
Meal
r, Plated changes may not be adopted."
"e above document is dated Ist Dec., and is signed in
Fisher,"
of the Catholic Clergy, by " Thos. Youens," " Thos.
'lsher," " Peter Wilcock," and " William Dale."
Mr. MOLYNEUX, chairman of the Education Committee,
moved that the report and proceedings of the committee be
confirmed.
Mr. HARBORD seconded the motion.
4, Mr. BULLET explained that he had, as one of the Educa-
"°u Committee, voted against the resolution brought for-
Ward. It was too much to expect that the Council should
rescind all the rules and resolutions which had formerly been
Passed by the committee, without bringing forward any other
rules as substitutes for them. With respect to the Bible, he
14ould not yield to any man in that Council, not even to Mr.
ti3Oclgson in his respect for the Bible, but he never would
leld to such an act of injustice, as the expulsion of a num-
uer of poor children from those schools, and from the only
chance which they had of acquiring knowledge.
to Mr. JOHN SMITH spoke at much length, and with great
rvour again st the proposed resolution, and the illiberality
°f desiring to turn so many poor Catholic children out of the
schools. He proposed, as a means of setting the question at
rest, that two new schools should be erected for the express
Use of the Catholic children. He moved that it be an in-
struction to the Education Committee, to examine into, and
consider the propriety, of providing separate schools for the
Use of the children of the Roman Catholic poor.
14 Mr. EARLE asked if the committee had read all those
ninf's whico they asked the council so suddenly to rescind.
f XL.. PRIESTLEY said, the motion was suddenly brought
,I).rward in the committee, and as suddenly passed, with three
44..'issentients, of whom lie had the honour to be one. The
14,°tion went to destroy all that had been done by six years
040 our, and there appeared in it a haste to cast dishonour
4,44 the labours of some of the most able and conscientious
en who had been in the council. Mr. Priestley praised the
:Nem, and hoped gentlemen would not vote till they had
Zlarained it, for the effect . of such a sweeping resolution as
that %,1 • I they had heard read wonld be to turn all the poor
b a ley
s'othan Catholic children into the street.
Mr. BOLTON was about to address the council, when
Mr. EARLE rose and said that this question had been as
Yet unanswered. He had asked whether, before they had
resolved upon rescinding the labours of six years, the corn-
raittee had had the rules they wished to rescind read over to
tll,ll.

Po ir.
The rules PRIESTLY saidstion he hhad not been ad answered
read that question be-
e E
in que.
; Mr. EARLE wished the public to know that the proceed-
-48 of six years were going to be rescinded before they had
ever been read to the committee.
Mr. HARBORD said he had seconded the original motion,
Alt that, not having an opportunity at the time of stating his
e4sou for so doing, he wished now to be permitted to pro-
4ed.

1, Mr. HARBORD said he would give it nevertheless. His
9e?ison was his :—Whene had one to the school he cer-
1111 y foundt its management an d gegneral conduct in discord-
ee with the orders arid regulations on the books of the
eeancil. This was his simple reason for supporting the
It.resent resolution,-that the whole of the orders and regala-
°llB on the books should be rescinded, and that the
, the
should begin de novo. In future, he trusted,
` management of the schools would be in strict accord-
tace with the orders and regulations on the books. He
ad, heretofore, supposed that such was the case, but found,
°n Visiting the school, that the management had been relaxed
With to meet the views of certain parties. (Hear, hear.)
With regard to what had been said about the desirableness
,
having peace and harmony restored, he was as anxious as
213' man to establish real peace and real harmony ; but he
vlshed not to hear people crying '`peace peace, where there
w'
aa no peace ;" and he also wished to observe, that the pro-
testant part of the community could never rest upon an arm
of flesh instead of the arm of God. The authorised version
!If the Bible was the only spiritual truth which they could
laculeate among the children. (Hear, hear, bear.) If they
here instrumental in inculcating that which they believed to
e error, they would not only be offending a certain portion
their fellow-men but offending the Almighty also. He
had no faith in that false peace to which allusion had been
because it could never last any length of time. (Hear.)
with respect to the division of the schools he objected to
,ttleh a plan, because be believed that if he conscientiously
mformed his duty towards God and man lie would be just
tat lyullty in teaching error in a separate school as he would
in teaching truth and error under the same roof. With
trhegard to Mr. Smith's proposition he had no doubt but that
at gentleman had honest intentions in view ; but he would
SkY that he (Mr S.) must be ignorant of the vital part of
th t
duty which. he owed to the Supreme Being, when he
Zated that he was a warm churchman and a true protestant,
kild yet countenanced the inculcation of error in any shape.
e called upon Mr. Smith to act as a true protestant. (Hear,
bear,)
Mr. SmiTH.—And with feelings of Christian charity.
~-beers from the radicals.)
t kr. 11 ARBOR)) thought it would be well to know what the
4,2leman meant by Christian charity. He believed it did
t;,' Mean that Protestants should be instrumental in teaching
,ers error. With regard to conservative principles, he was
toes4lo2B to know how they could be severed from the princi-
of protestantism. Both should be as one. He, as a
.i,aervative, professed to act as far as he could as a causer-
trive and a protestant. All his actions were based on reli-
pr7aaprinciples, and whenever a man acted contrary to those
4ciples, be was deceiving himself and others also. (Cheers)
tee repeated that he was far from being satisfied with the
totteral management of the schools. He had put a question
se,thne of the old members of the council, and was told in
eLi!,Y that the visiting ladies never interfered with the female
o4altiren in religious matters, but that they merely did so in
cular things. On going through the schools however, he
r,,ht for further information,
thereathere learned from one
e44le ladies' committee, that lHous part of the edu-
;°,a was the principal part of what they attended to.
matters were not overlooked by them, but the re-
,tie9tis education of the children was a principal portion of
p,..1t duty. (Hear.) He had seen the books which were at
heiteat used in the schools. The Douay version, which he
134teved contained some truth, but a great deal of error, was
eote'r. There- were also the Irish extracts to which many.
lire_ tamed strong objections. There were protestant chil-
Ner". taught by Roman catholic masters, and the authorised
fhisei°4 of the Bible was occasionally. introduced. But there
th, such a heterogeneous mixture, that the management of
ataf,e.ccols seemed to him not to be in accordance with the
to re "19g orders on the books. It was high time, therefore.
trod_seind the said orders—to begin de novo, and not to in-
listieurce any system into the schools but such as should be
~.rioned by the council.
Arrsork.hoped that if the committee were willing to
cotage_e soithout kntwledge on the subject, the council would
too.
411% SANDS said he rose for the purpose of stating that

though the resolutions had sot alt been read la committee,
and that the meloritv were perfectly well acquainted with
their contents. His reasons for supporting the resolution of
: the, committee were grounded upon his knowledge of the
working of the schools during the last twelve months, which
working had not been in accordance with the orders and
regulations of the council; therefore it was he had moved
I that they be rescinded. Many of them were in themselves
good, but others were objectionable ; and it was in order to
make the working of the schools to be in accordance with
any future resolution that he was desirous of voting for the
repeal of the present resolutions. If the council were to
judge of the working of the schools, as indicated by those
resolutions, they would immediately see that some consider-
able alterations ought to take place. But, judging of the
system as it stood by the working of it, perhaps the alter-
ations that would take place might not be so great as many
out of doors imagined.
Mr. Bouroet said this was the greatest piece of discourtesy
he had ever heard of. They talked of destroying what others
had done before they were even prepared to substitute ally
thing in lieu thereof. The proposition was the most insulting
that could have been thought of. They had not even read
the rules. He would put it to the chairman of the com-
mittee if he knew the rules.
The Chairman said he was in Yorkshire when the rules were
passed.
Mr. BOLTON moved as another amendment, " That the
recommendation of the committee to rescind all resolutions
of the council, confirminr, the proceedings of the Education
Committee, so far as sucl7confirmations apply to proceedings
of the committee which in anywise purport to establish princi-
ples or regulations for the conduct or management of the
schools, be not confirmed, but that the subject be referred
back to the committee for their further consideration and
support."
Mr. BRIGHT seconded the amendment.
Mr. GEORGE HALL LAWRENCE said he wished them to
see whether they could not remodel the schools and put them
on a footing which might be acceptable to the sound-thinking
public at large. He had not been an inattentive member of
the Education Committee, and he had endeavoured to recon-
cile himself to the system that prevailed. lie was sorry to
say that he was not able so to do—that the system neither
aided nor abetted religious principle—that it left the inculca-
tiou of religious principles either to the children themselves
or to their masters, who, perhaps, did not know or did not
like the creeds they taught, or to people who left their creeds
at the door, and who were ready to teach Roman Catholic
doctrines, or Church of England doctrines, or any other
doctrines, or to the more uncertain attendance of the minis-
ters of religion. lie spoke of the system in one of the schools,
which appeared to have no sanction from the Roman catholic
clergy, for, at the periods set apart for religious instruction,
they had never, or seldom, attended. He thought that if the
Roman catholic children were no better instructed than they
had been at the school in question, their parents could have
no more reason to he satisfied with the nature of that in-
struction than the parents of the Protestant children, who,
he must say, had not been neglected. Objecting, as he
did, to the system, it was his duty to state what alterations
could be proposed which would be agreeable to the clergy of
the church, without actually violating or forcing the con-
sciences of those who differed from that clergy. He alluded
particularly to the Roman catholics. This was a problem and
a difficulty se great that if he did not feel that he stood in
that council to fulfil a trust which he was bound to discharge,
he should shriek from any proposition on the subject. But
he begged to propose this on his own account, and not as a
member of the Education Committee, for he had had no
concurrence from them ; he would teach nothing but sound
Scriptural education, no other book or guide as regarded
religious instruction but the Bible; he would no longer
allow the Douay version, or the Irish extracts to be there,
nor would he allow the Roman Catholic religion to be taught
efflur directly or indirectly. (Cheers.) He would have the
service of the school commenced and closed with prayer, and
he would give to the pupils all that he considered sound,
Scr ptural, and true. He would offer all this ; but at the
saint: time he drew a distinction between offering and forcing
it on them ; and if it should unhappily prove, as would be
the case in the onset, that there were those among them who
might ( bje tt to receive such religious instruction, he hoped
some discr ,tioit would be given to the committee—some
power in pr ictice to make such arrangements as would, with-
out inter-I.lln with the discipline or fettering the utility of
the school, enable the children of those parents who really
and truly objected on conscientious principles to receive such
an instruction of a secular and moral character as they were
willing to seek for. He knew the difficulty of the question.
He knew he should be told that he ought to give secular, in
preference to religious, instruction—that the latter was
fraught with danger, and that they were imparting a know-
ledge not over good ; but lie was willing to throw the respon-
sibility of what might ensue from the carrying out of his
scheme upon the priests, who would not give their people the
benefits of a sound religious instruction. And lie did throw
it upon them. It was for them to regret the step which they
were going to take. He believed, however, that they would
yet come round when they would see the advantages which
would result from the sound religious instruction that would
be offered, and that in a short time they would agree to re-
ceive the whole of that instruction, which, until then he was
not prepared actually to force upon them. With these feel.
ings he would support the resolution which had been read.
Mr. BIRKETT said the resolutions ought to be rescinded,
but the object was only to rescind them so far as the princi-
ples which shut out the rectors and the clergy were concerned.
He would have no compromise: if the Romish clergy with-
drew their children, on their heads be the sin and the shame.
Mr. CROOK said, whatever were the fate of this motion,
he should give notice of a motion, that the schools open and
close with prayer and singing morning and evening, and that
the authorised version of the Bible be read therein, to the
exclusion of all other versions and of the Irish extracts.
Mr. PROCTOR gave notice to move, that the two rectors
be called in by the committee, to assist at their conferences.
A very long debate ensued, and several members expressed
their opinions on the subject, while many, presuming that the
subject must be again brought before the council, expressed
their opinion, that the discussion of the subject now was a
waste of time, and that an adjournment should take place.
Mr. TURNER said, lie for one could not conscientiously
vote till he had read over those obnoxious resolutions. He
lied called for the express purpose of reading them on the
preceding day, but he was told it would take a day to peruse
them. He was a firm supporter of the Established Church,
but not of intolerance of any kind. He thought it would be
but fair to read those rules before they passed, and not to
destroy them ; and he thought, that to deprive the Catholic
children of the means of education would be an act of injus-
tice. He knew of no sect in this town that was exempt from
town dues, or from any tax or toll, and he thought an attempt
to deprive them of any benefit that was provided would be
an act of injustice. He would support the motion to adjourn.
Mr. HCDGSON supported the original resolution in a long
and able speech, which our limits reluctantly prevent us from
reporting. He said the object of the committee was to re-
move the obnoxious system which had prevailed in the
schools, and which was manifest to the whole town. He
had been honoured by being appealed to by name as the prin-
cipal in the case. He should be sorry, in support of the truth,
if he stood alone on such an occasion, but he believed that
he had the great majority of the town with him on the
subject, and therefore he received the appeal as an honour.
(Cheers.) When the quackery of the late corporation
began to work, there were 1000 children in the North
School, and it was not known whether there were ten
Roman Catholics among the number ; but when the liberal
plans were put in practice—" liberal" according to their
views—a new state of things had arisen, and the present
population in the schools was about three Roman Catholics
to one Protestant, or about two and a half when compared
with Protestants and Dissenters together. The Roman Ca-
tholics formed somewhere about a fourth part of the popula-
tion of the town, and, probably, from their poverty, they
Paid a twentieth part of the sum at the disposal of the cor-
poration. The liberality or justice of the late corporation
had introduced into the schools what they said ought to pre-
vail, but which had immediately driven the Church of Eng-
land children away. It appeared, then, that for a population
of one-fourth, and a contribution of one-twentieth, they
thought it but just and liberal to distribute the public funds
at the rate of three to one in favour of the Roman Catho-
lics. (Hear, hear.) If this was justice, he had lost his
notions of what justice and liberality really were. (Cheers.)
He could not consent on any terms to become the patron and
inculcator of what he believed to be a lie. The building of
separate schools was only another attempt to shuffle off an
iniquity. if it were not an iniquity, why not teach them all
under the same roof ? If the council believed that unitarian-
ism and popery were true, why not teach them where they
might? Mr. Lawrence had stated that they might hit on
some plan as an expedient, forgetting that there was no ex-
pedient where principle was concerned. (Loud cries of
" Hear, hear.") Mr. Hodgson having read the solemn de-
claration which had been made by every member on entering
the council not to injure the Protestant church, concluded by
stating that he would support the original motion.
Ultimately, after several propositions bad been made and
rejected, the meeting having been addressed by Mr. Alder-
man Earle, Mr.Aikin, Mr. Parker, Mr. Mellor, Mr. Alder-
man Evans, and Mr. Bushell, the amendments of Mr. John
Smith and Mr. Bolton were withdrawn in favour of the fol-
lowing amendment framed by the Town-clerk, proposed by
Mr. Turner, and seconded by Mr. G. H. Lawrence: " That
the proceedings of the Education Committee be approved
with this qualification, that the consideration of the first of
their recommendations do stand over until they have, in pur-
suance of the second of their recommendations, made their
general report as to the future conduct and management of
the schools "

we repe

Mr. HODGSON pressed for a division, when the above
amendment was carried by a majority of 30 to 22. For the
amendment—Messrs. Thornhill, Preston, H. Holmes, J.
Holmes, Mellor, Bolton, Aikin, •Bright, Priestley, Aspinall,
Yates, Robinson, Wood, Bushell, J. Smith, G. H. Law-
rence, Jordan, Platt, A. Smith, Mather, Holt, Bulley,
Freme, Evans, Barclay, Earle, Moon, Nicol, Griffith, and
Turner. Against the amendment—Messrs. Shaw, Hodg-
son, Copeland, Edwards, Barton, Sands, Rae, Toulmin,
Lawrence, Cooper, Birkett, Procter, Lloyd, Rigby, Kilshaw,
Parker, Harbord, Houghton (Alderman), Chilton, Bram-
ley-rnoore, Molyneux, Crook, and the Mayor•.
The Council adjourned at four o'clock, to eleven o'clock
on Wednesday next.

TAM 0' SUANTER—ANDERSON'S STATUARY ROOMS.—
Mr. Anderson, now that he has removed to Ranelagh-street,
is having crowds of visitors pouring in upon him to inspect
his handy work. The Blue-coat boys have been kindly per-
mitted to see the figures—a party each day going to the
rooms, accompanied by Mr. Foster. The corporation scholars
have also been invited to inspect them. Mr. Anderson is
very liberal to his visitors, as, on paying once, they are not
charged a second time for admission. We regard these sculp-
tuers as astonishing examyles of perseverence, industry, and
skill, and we trust thousands will avail themselves of a plea-
sure they will not have cause to regret.

HALIFAX, Nov. 18.—The Herald, Dickson, from Liver-
pool to Miramichi, was driven on shore, on the sth of ult.,
inside Point Escuminac, and it is feared will be a wreck ;
crew saved. The Elizabeth, Brabble, from Liverpool to
Dalhousie, was driven on shore at Meccon Island in October,
and is a total wreck ; crew saved. A bark, from Liverpool,
was on shore near Sydney, Cape Breton. The Portland,
Robinson, which returned to Quebec on the 3d ult., was dis-
charging her cargo, and was repairing in the floating dock.
Report now has it that the Romish party in Dublin have
resolved to constitute Mr. O'Connell permanent lord mayor,
there being, it is alleged, no provision in the Municipal Re-
form Bill against the re-election of the same party to that
office, year after year.

FATAL FALL.—On Wednesday, the 17th ult., a young
man named Thomas Morgan, living at Clarach, near Aber-
yestwith, met an untimely death, by falling over a rock be-
tween Clarach and Borth, The deceased, with a companion,
started in the snow from home that morning, with the in-
tention, as it is supposed, of catching rabbits. A rabbit, it. s
said. was started, and the unfortunate young man, pursuing
it with too much eagerness near a precipice, fell in. The de-
clivity was not so great but that he might have recovered
himself, had it not been for the slipperiness occasioned by the
snow. As it was, lie came down upon the sea shore with his
head foremost, and never spoke more. His companion, at
great personal risk, followed through a more practicable
winding of the rock, to render assistance •, but on finding him
speechless, and the blood rushing from him in torrents, he
was so overpowered that he fainted on the spot. The father
of the deceased came immediately to the place; but on find-
ing that his son had lost all consciousness he fell on his knees
and prayed. The poor sufferer, however, still breathed, and
was taken to Wallog House, where every assistance in their
power was rendered by Mr. and Mrs. Morris. By this time
Mr. John Phillips, surgeon, of Aberystwith, was sent for,
who came and rendered all the assistance which his surgical
skill could suggest, but to no purpose ; for the poor young
man breathed his last in the course of the day, about three
hours after the accident.--Welshman.

THE WEST INDIA. MAIL STATION

We have recently called the attention of our fellow-towns-
men to the superior claims of our port, as the British station
of the West India mail shies. (14 in number,) over those of
Southampton. We expressed our surprise and reprehension
that those claims, so far from having been urged upon go-
vernment by our late Council (and, we may add, by our mer-
cantile community generally) in a manner commensurate with
the importance of the object to be attained, had been coldly
and imperfectly advanced, if not altogether overlooked ;—we
furnished data derived from the report of the proceedings of
the parliamentary committee in proof of the fact that, from
its central position as regards the home mails of England,
Scotland, and Ireland, and the manufacturing districts in
each, it was decidedly the most eligible point of departure
and arrival of any that had been suggested ;—and we ex-
pressed a hope that the present corporate body would exert
themselves to redeem the past by an energetic represent
to the proper quarter—leaving the nautical point of the que
tion for future consideration and remark. To that point a
shall now more particularly address ourselves. And we me),
premise that, though the inertness and apparent apathy of
Liverpool on the one hand, and the activity, generalship, and
undue influence (of which more anon) of Southampton oa
the other, has induced the government to fix, temporarily,
trust, upon that port as the exclusive station,—and thougle
from obvious causes, months, or it may be years, may dap,:
before we can so far justify our position as to effect a chang
in the determination of government in our behalf, we by no
means despair of a favourable result, if energetic measures
be adopted by our local authorities, and others immediately-
interested to lay the subject fully and fairly before parliament .
All we can hope to do is to hasten that desirable change ; for
we feel assured that experience will effect it, even should our
townsmen remain passive spectators of the working of the mails
from the station at present assigned to them. We may add Ott
resuming the subject) that it is our highest ambition especially
to promote the interests of our own port, and we willingly
allow a like privilege, in the exercise of an honourable com-
petition to our fellow-subjects of Southampton or elsewhere ;
but we urge no undue preference—no exclusive boon apal t
from the general interests of the kingdom ; and if we fail,
ere we take leave of the subject, to prove on the broad prin-
ciples of general good, that this is the more eligible port, we
shall be contented to relinquish all the local advantages that
may accrue from its ultimate selection. It may, perhaps, be
said that we are premature in at present' agitating the ques-
tion, inasmuch as it cannot be immediately entertained in the
quarter from which the final decision must emanate. Our
reply is that it is never too soon to rectify an error that mili-
tates against general interests ; and that it were well, by.
ample and dispassionate discussion, during the calm of the
recess, to ripen the public mind on the subject, so that on
the opening of our national councils, under new arid, we
trust, happier auspices than have influenced their delibera-
tions for many years past, they way be prepared to strengthen
the hands of our representaaives, and enable them to urge
with better effect the propriety of a speedy revision and
amendment of the decision at which, in our thinking, they
have unhappily too hastily arrived.
A brief reference to the proceedings of the government on
the question under review may serve to elucidate its bearings,
and justify the views we have adopted. In the first instance,
a committee—Rear-Admiral Sir J. A. Gordon, chairman—
was appointed by the Lords of the Admiralty to inquire into
the comparative advantages afforded by different ports "in
the Channel" for the West India mail service. It appears
that from tire first it was contemplated that " the port" (cer-
tainly without due consideration) should be in the British
Channel, and as the committee was entirely composed of
officers of the navy, most of whom had long been stationed
in that quarter, and consequently known in and attached to
that locality, and who knew little of Liverpool, which is
rarely visited by men of war, it is not to be wondered at that
they ;;rould entertain a preference to a port in that quarter.
It appears, however, that while the enquiry was pending, the
Admiralty, in consequence of memorials received front the
respective ports of Bristol, Penzance, and other ports, not
including Liverpool, (which remained inert on the subject,)
directed evidence to be taken of their respective eligibility,
though they were not on the south but the western coast of
the island. Bristol, in particular, presented a very strong
memorial, but the mass of the evidence respecting it as a
mail packet station, is, we consider, with all due deference,
much less favourable than that (brief as it was) afterwards
adduced in behalf of Liverpool,—while, at the same time,
much of the general testimony is clearly in favour of a
" western" port as best suited to despatch. The Admi-
ralty committee, however, which acted from the 3d of
June, 1810, to the lfith of July in the same year, after
visiting most of' the competing ports in the south, and re-
ceiving deputations and evidence from numerous parties
interested, did not, it appears, recommend any particular
harbour, but handed in several reports embodying that evi-
dence, the final decision being left to Parliament itself. The
government commissioners had previously, on the part of
the public, entered into a contract with the West India Royal
Mail Company—that is, on the 20th of March of that year—
for the providing of at least 14 good and substantial steam
vessels for the service, also four sailing vessels, of 100 tons
hurdler' each. The contract specifies, that one of such
steam-vessels, after inspection and approval, shall twice a
month, " from such port in the British Channel as the said
Commissioners shall at any time or times, or from time to
time, signify, in writing, to the contractors," put to sea with
the mails, and proceed to the island of Barbadoes, thence to
Grenada, and thence successively to Santa Cruz, St. Thomas,
Nicola Mole (in St. Domingo,) Santiago (iii Cuba,) Port
Royal, (Jamaica), Savannah-la-Mer (same Island,) deliver-
ing the mails and receiving others at each, and thence to
Havannah (Cuba,)Savannah-la-Mer' Port Royal (Jamaica),
Santiago de Cuba, Nicola Mole, and Samana (St. Domingo,)
and thence make her way home to such port in the British
Channel as the commissioners- may direct. The company
are also required to alter and vary this route from time to
time. And for the due performance of such service a sum is
to be paid by the government of £240,000 per annum, in
auarterly payments; the contract to commence on the 31st
3f December, 1841, arid to continue in force for ten years,
ind to continue thereafter unless twelve months' notice be
iven by either party to the other.
Such is the substance of the contract !entered into (need
-at, precipitately !), between the government and the
company—the home port being distinctly specified to be,
" in the British Channel ", to the absolute exclusion of Li-
verpool, or any other port on the eastern coast of this coon-
try,—unless, indeed—of which, we do not despair—a new ar-
rangement can be made under the sanction of parliament, and
satisfactory to the contractors. Here was the grand error on
the part of the commissioners, and they appear to have been
aware that they had acted with indiscretion, and injustice, in
having thus, perhaps unwittingly, narrowed tee field of com-
petition ;—for on the 27th April, of the present year, the
House of Commons appointed a select committee on the
selection of a port of arrival and departure, to whom the re-
ports of the previous committee were referred—as also the
contract ; who immediately found that no selection of a par-
ticular port in the British Channel had been made by the
commissioners of the Admiralty, or notified to the steam
company, and were, moreover, empowered to receive evi-
dence both from Bristol, Liverpool, and several ports in Ire-
land,—a circumstance clearly admitting the possibility, at
least, of their having formed a too hasty contract, and the
probability, if they found a change desirable, of having it an-
nulled in favour of a new arrangement. The parliamentary
committee consisted of Mr. Freshfield, Lord Dalmeny, Lord
Viscount Ingestrie, Captain Peelle', Captain Duncornbe,
Mr. Charles Wood, the Honourable Sir Thomas Cochrane,
Mr. Redington, Mr. Cresswell. Lord Worsley, Mr. Philip
Miles, Mr. Gibson Craig, Mr. De Horsey, Mr. Oswald, and
Mr. Richard Hodgson, to none of whom inatnediately have
we an objection to offer, though we cannot but consider it
extraordinary that neither of the members for Glasgow are
included in the list of members, who, it may be added, very
inadequately represent the great interests in West India
affairs of the great commercial and manufacturing interests
of the North of England, of Scotland generally, or of Ireland.
On looking cursorily through the evidence, we find, too, that
nearly the whole of the witnesses—nautical men, engineers,
and others—are connected with souse one or other of the
ports in the British Channel, and solely interested in the
preference of a port in that part of the coast, while their
knowledge of this port, and its comparative advantages and
capabilities, (if any they possess,) is either extremely limited,
or, from the exclusive nature of the examinations, remains
unelicited. Admitting, however, as we readily do, that the
establishment of this mail communication will be of immense
advantage to the country, if judiciously carried out—by ap-
proximating, as it were, Great Britain to her valuable de-
pendencies in the West, and consolidating their mutual
interests—it becomes a matter of national importance (par-
ticularly when the large expenditure involved is taken into
account) that that port should be selected which promises that
the greatest convenience and advantage to the mass of the
mercantile and general community mainly interested, as re-
gards the proprietary in those islands—and the comparative
advantages it presents, in safe and easy ingress—and in adap-
tation for the speedy repair of machinery ; and, finally, in
the cheap supply of fuel, the cost of which will, necessarily,
form a prominent item in the working of the line. In all
and every of these respects, we have yet to learn that the com-
paratively small town of Southampton, is at all equal to our
own admirable port.
In the first place (thought the subject seems to have been
scarcely touched upon by the committee), there can be, we
think, no doubt but that the mass of West India proprietors
are parties resident in the north of England and in Scotland.
Situated, too, in the immediate proximity of the great manu-
facturing districts with which, as well as with Scotland and
Ireland, it has speedy and daily intercourse by railways, ca-
nals, and other means, and from which the supplies for the
West India markets are mainly derived, it presents claims
within a circuit round it—claims of connexion—of much
greater magnitude than can be substantiated for a similar ex-
tent of country round Southampton, including even the me-
tropolis itself, whose mere convenience in the advantage of
five or six hours only in the postage of letters has apparently
held an undue preponderence in tire minds of the commit-
tee. If packages of fine manfactured goods are to be carried
by the West India steamers in addition to their coals in or-
der to meet a market (which, though not mentioned, is, we
think, probable), these would be mainly supplied by the sur-
rounding districts, and from the sister western port of Glas-
gow, from Birmingham, from Yorkshire, or from Stafford-
shire. And as regards passengers (on whom the mail ships
must greatly depend for their profitable working), we will
venture to say that the aggregate number of individuals pro-
ceeding to the Antilles, and to the proximate shores of South
America, exceeds by ten times those proceeding from the
southern counties of England. If these, however, would
take advantage of the mails, they must by the present ar-
rangement be subjected to the additional fatigue and heavy
expense of travelling nearly to the land's end. Many of
these will, therefore, as a matter of course, prefer a passage
by the sailing ships of this port and Glasgow, to the infinite
loss of the mail steam company, and the defeat, to a certain
extent, !of the objects of government in forwarding speedy
personal transit.
We now proceed to contrast its adaptations with those of
Liverpool in a nautical point of view.
And first, as regards the shortest distances from each port
respectively to Barbadoes, measured on a great circle, we have
Southampton
Liverpool
Being an advantage (if it may be so called) in favour of
Southampton of only 147 miles ; though the distance by mail
is upwards of 200 miles between the two ports. The follow-
ing particulars from the Hydrographer to the Admiralty, laid
before the committee, will show the respective distances to
be run from each port, the point of departure on the voyage
from Southampton being taken at the Lizard, and that from
Liverpool at Cape Clear :
SOUTHAMPTON to Calshot Castle
Calshot to the Needles
Needles to the Start
Start to the-Lizard
Lizard to Barbadoes
LIVERPOOL to near the Skerries
Skerries to Tuskar
Tuskar to Cape Clear 145
Cape Clear to Barbadoes
The report of the committee makes a difference of only 47
miles of distance, but this evidently arises from a mistake in
the addition, and we are quite willing to allow the larger sum,
inasmuch as it makes but a trifling per centage of difference
on a voyage which—as not even a steamer can steer a direct
course in all weathers—may be considered a voyage little
short of 3,800 miles. The respective advantages of ingress
and; egress which the two ports present are now to be con-
sidered ; and here, we think, our port merits the preference.
It appears from the evidence of marry of the witnesses that
Southampton is subject to thick fogs, which renders the pas-
sage of the Needles out or in extremely hazardous, and one
of them (Mr. Walker) states that no Cowes pilot can find
the Channel of Southampton Water in foggy weather, though
if found, it contains sufficient deptlr for the steamers. The
access to Liverpool on the other hand is unequivocally stated
by all the witnesses in behalf of the port to be superior, and
outward-bound vessels may be said to be clear of the land
when they pass Holyhead.

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PUBLIC MEETING ON THE BIRTH OF THE
PRINCE OP WALES.

Yesterday, at twelve o'clock, in pursuance of a requisition
to the Mayor (to which he promptly ;,:ceeocd), a public meet-
ing of the inhabitants of this borough was held at the Ses-
sions-house, " for the purpose of affording the loyal subjects
of her Majesty the Queen, in this town and neighbourhood,
an opportunity sof expressin4 by addresses to her Alajesty,
his Royal Highness Prince Albert, and her Royal Highness
the Duchess of Kent, their joy and congratulations on the
auspicious event of the birth of au heir to the throne of these
realms."

The Court-room, immediately on the opening of the doors,
was crowded in every part within the rails, by an assemblage
of the most respectable and influential inhabitants of the
town, without regard to politics, and the proceedings were
marked throughout by a feeling Of loyalty and respect to the
institutions of the country beating the occasion. Amongst
those present we noticed Sir Thomas Brancker, J. T. Alston,
Messrs. Alderman J. U. Turner, Thomas Bolton, Thomas
Thornely, M.P., H. Hornby, R. Duncan, Ashley, J.
Sheppard, William Potter. John Formby, Walinsley,
Joseph II ornby, Robertson Gladstone, T. Booth, Sandbach,
Alexander Smith, jun., J. V. Yates, Bushby, Dr. Ralph,
George Grant, Lewin Mozley, and many others.
The Mayor (J. S. Leigh, Esq)., in taking the chair, opened
the proceedings in an appropriate address. It afforded him
the highest gratification to see such an assemblage of his
townsmen congregated on an occasion so auspicious. The
meeting had originated in many of those whom he saw
around him ; but had he not received the requisition, the
event, on which they had assembled, afforded sufficient and
ample grounds for him to call the meeting to afford an oppor-
tunity' to the people of this great town, which formed an im-
portant portion of the empire, to express their feelings of
loyalty and attachment to the throne and the constitution,
under which they had enjoyed so much national prosperity.
They had to congratulate the town, and the people at large, on
the birth of an infant prince, who would, in all probability,
sway the destinies of this great country. They had to pro-
pose addresses to her Majesty and to Prince Albert on the
happy event. They also had to address her Majesty the,
Queen Dowager (we understood him to imply), who had shed
pre-eminent lustre around the throne. He trusted that the
proceedings would be marked by those feelings of enthusi-
asm and unanimity which the occasion was so eminently
calculated to draw forth. As there were others present
much more competent than himself to dilate upon the sub-
ject, he should not occupy their time with further remark,
but request the town-clerk to read the requisition.
The TOWN-CLERK complied by reading the requisition,
and the numerous signatures thereto appended.
The Rev. JONATHAN Brtooycn, who was received with
strong demonstrations of respect,) said lie had great pleasure
in performing the office, which he had been requested to un-
dertake, of moving the first resolution. Had it required the
powers of oratory, or the gift of persuasion to do so, he
should shrink from the task as incompetent to do it justice;
but when they met :or a common purpose, on which, how-
ever much they differed on certain points, all parties unani-
monsly conjoined, he felt that all difficulty was removed. The
resolution divided itself into two parts. First—they had to
acknowledge the goodness of Almighty God, in bestowing
upon her Majesty the blessing of a son, and thus fulfilling
the hopes of the nation ; and secondly to express their happy
congratulations to the mother on the event. He felt assured
that every one present would concur in expressing their gra-
titude to that Almighty Being, from whom all such blessings
were derived, and he was equally certain that they would
offer their heartfelt congratulations to her Majesty, who for-
got all the sufferings of a mother, after they had passed, in
her joy that a man was born into the world. For national
blessings. national thankfulness was due ; and never had
they occasion to be more thankful than now, when a sovereign
born in the country left them to glory in the name of Britons.
They had, in truth, the more to be thankful for, when
they considered the great blessings of the constitution under
which they lived. It had been well said by a RoMan
historian that a succession of nobles alone would not benefit
a state, and that (as we understood him) a form of govern-
ment constituted on the principle of republicanism, could
not long endure. His prophecy had proved to be right; and
while some empires so regulated had fallen into decay, we
had here a government of king, lords, and commons, which
had lasted for ages. We ought to be thankful for a con-
stitution to which, under God, they were indebted for all the
advantages they enjoyed. And surely they would be doubly
thankful for an event which would perpetuate its advantages.
They were the more called upon to give expression to their
gratitude and loyalty when they reflected that our present
sovereign was a young, virtuous, and interesting female, who
had already shown that she would act up to the principles and
spirit of that constitution, and in whose health, as well as in
the birth of a prince, they felt deeply interested. He looked
around him in that assembly for an octogenarian, but believed
none were there. He did so with a view to remind them that
this was the eightieth year since so happy an event as that which
had drawn them together had occurred. None of those present
ever before offered their congratulations on the birth of an
heir-apparent, who was a Prince of Wales, and be sincerely
hoped none of them would see a recurrence of such an occa-
sion. Half a century would roll over before their beloved
monarch would attain three-score years and ten—the scrip-
tural age of man. If she lived to that age, none of those
who heard him could witness such an event. The whole
circumstances under which they had met were such as could
not but lead them to unanimity. He felt assured that they
would pass the resolution, with an earnest wish and prayer
that her Majesty might long be spared to rule over them ;
that the Prince might grow up in virtue and in wisdom,
under her maternal guidance ; and that when the time came
when she must pay that debt of nature, from which even
monarchs were not exempt, she would hand down to him the
sceptre of the realm, with its purity unsullied, its lustre un-
diminished, and its power uudecayed. He could not better
conclude than in the words of the poet—
" Blessing and ever blessed be her rule ' -
And, when old Time shall bring her to her end,
Goodness and she fill up one monument !"
(Much cheering.)
Mr. T.
,BOLTON said he had been requested to second the
resolution, which he had much pleasure in doing. That re-
solution had been so ably supported by the Rev. gentleman
who had preceded him, that he had but to express his cordial
concurrence, to hope that every blessing might attend her
Majesty and her infant son ; and that when SOU was taken
from us we should continue to enjoy that civil and religious
liberty with which we were more favoured by our govern-
ment than the people of any other country on the (ace of the
earth. (Applause.)
The MAYOrt again read the motion, (which, with the
others, will be found in our advertising columns,) and being
put it was unanimously carried.
Sir T. BRA NCKER, who complained of a cold, moved the
second resolution, that a dutiful address be presented to her
Majesty, and that the following he adopted :
" To THE QUEEN'S MOST EXCELLENT MAJESTY,

" 'We your Majesty's dutiful and loyal subjects, Magis-
trates, Clergy, Gentry, Bankers, Merchants, and other in-
habitants of Liverpool, in public meeting assembled, grate-
fully acknowledging the goodness of Almighty God in be-
stowing upon your Majesty and your Royal Consort the
blessing of a Son, and upon your faithful people an heir to
the throne of these realms, desire most respectfully to offer
to your Majesty our heartfelt congratulations on this most
auspicious event, and to express to your Majesty our joy and
thankfulness upon your Majesty's restoration to health.
" May every blessing attend the infant Prince ; may wis-
dom and virtue, health and strength, be largely bestowed
upon him. Instructed by the watchful solicitude of his
Iyal parents, in all that is good and praiseworthy, and be-
fitting his high station, may he be a comfort to your Majesty
and your Royal Consort, and a bright example to this
nation. And, if in the course of events it should please
Divine Providence that the crown of these realms should
devolve upon him, may those national advantages of free-

don], peace, and prosperity which your Majesty's subjects
enjoy under your mild and benignant sway be continued
under his, and may he long reign beloved as is your Majesty,
by the grateful millions of the British empire.
" That this day may be far distant we fervently pray, and
that your Majesty may long be spared to rule over a loyal,
devoted, and affectionate people.'
_ _

Mr. bIIARLES TAYLEURE briefly seconded the resolu-
tion, which was put, and unanimously carried.
Mr. HUGH HORNBY, in a few words, moved the next re-
solution, that an address of congratulation as follows be pre-
sented to His Royal Highness Prince Albert :
"To His ROYAL HIGHNESS PRINCE ALBERT.
" We, the undersigned Magistrates, Clergy, Gentry, Bank-
ers, Merchants, and other Inhabitants of Liverpool, in pub-
lic meeting assembled, beg respectfully to approach your
Royal Highness, and to offer to you our sincere congratula-
tions on the birth of a son, the heir to the throne of these
realms. This auspicious event fulfilling as it does the hopes
of her Majesty's subjects, must be to your Royal Highness
a source of unmingled happiness; and the nation, fondly
anticipating the future, recognises in your Royal Highness
the illustrious progenitor of a race of Sovereigns who in
after ages may sway the sceptre of this mighty empire.
May the royal infant be blessed by every endowment of
wisdom and v►rtue, be a comfort to her Majesty and your
Royal Highness, and a bright example to the people of these
realms.

"We offer up our fervent prayers for the health and
happiness of your Royal Highness, and that you may long
live beloved and esteemed, as your Royal Highness de-
servedly is, by all classes of her Majesty's faithful and
affectionate subjects."

Mr. HORNBY congratulated those present on the unani-
mous character of the meeting. The event which had called
them together was calculated not only to gratify the feelings of
the Royal Parent of the infant Prince, but to confer a bless-
ing on the nation at large, inasmuch as it would strengthen
and consolidate our institutions. It was peculiarly welcome
at a time when clouds Were lowering upon the prosperity of
the country. There were some parties in Europe who re-
garded the dissentions in politics that had recently been ex-
hibited in this country as a prelude to her downfall; but he
thought they were well answered by such demonstrations as
the present of attachment to our Sovereign, and devotion to
the institutions of our common country.

Mr. .1. T. ALSTON seconded the resolution, and it was
carried unanimously.

Mr. GYM. BILOW'N said it was highly gratifying to see a
meeting divested of all party feeling, and assembled to con-
gratulate the Queen and other members of the Royal Family
on the birth of a Prince of Wales, and begged to move that
an address be presented to the Duchess of Kent, and that
the following be adopted :
" To IiIER ROYAL HIGHNESS THE DUCHESS OF KENT.
_ _ .

" We, the undersigned Magistrates, Clergy, Gentry,
Bankers, Merchants, and other inhabitants, in public meet-
ing- assembled, beg to approach your Royal Highness, and
offer to you our sincere congratulations on the birth of the
Prince, the heir to the throne of these realms Gratifying as
is this event to all classes of Her Majesty's subjects, it must
be to your Royal Highness a source of the purest happiness.
" The parental care bestowed by your Royal Highness
upon our gracious Sovereign in the days of her infancy and
youth, and the benefits thereby conferred upon this nation.
will long be cherished by her grateful subjects ; and we fer-
vently pray that the infant Prince may possess in an equal
measure all those virtuous dispositions so fondly nurtured,
by your Royal Highness, in our gracious Sovereign, that he
may be a comfort to his royal parents, a distinguished orna-
ment of the royal line, and a blessing to the people of these
realms. _ _

" Aud we pray that your Royal Highness may long live
beloved and esteemed by all classes of Her Majesty's
subjects."
Mr. ROBERTSON GLADSTONE begged leave most cordially
to second the resolution, which on being put was also unani-
mously carried.
Mr. W. POTTER said that the. several resolutions having
been passed with the greatest unanimity, it only remained
for them to fix upon an individual to present them ; and he
trusted he should meet with the general concurrence of that
assembly in proposing that they sould be entrusted -to their
chief magistrate who presided that day. (Loud and pro-
longed applause.)
r. LEWIN MOZLEY, in seconding the resolution said,
that the addresses were such as would meet the fnll'approval
of every one who possessed a British heart, and no one could
be more fitly selected to present them than the worthy gen-
tleman who so ably filled the chair, and who was moreover
a native of the town. He seconded the resolution with sin-
cere pleasure. _

,
The MA.voa, after stating good humouredly that he felt
himself placed in a very awkward predicament on the oc-

The motion, which his modesty prevented him from point-
edly putting, was then carried by acclamation.
The MAYOR said that it was impossible for him to express
the gratitude he felt for the compliments paid and the honour
done to him. He had as yet exercised the functions of his
oflice too short a time to merit them ; but he might say, that
whatever errors of judgment he might hereafter be amena-
ble for, he should ever discharge his duties with the strictest
impartiality to all parties. (Applause.)

A motion WdS then agreed to—moved by Mr. G. GRANT,
smd seconded by ',Mr. J. H. Tutor Ea—that the addresses be
signed by the mayor, in behalf of the meeting.
The mayor then left the chair, when the thanks of the
►neeting.were voted to him.

Repeated and enthusiastic cheers were then given in suc-
cession for the Queen, Prince Albert, and the Duchess of
Kent. and the meeting dispersed.

MEETING OF THE DOCK COMMITTEE

The committee held their weekly meeting yesterday. Ther
were present Messrs. Sands, (chairman,) liorsfall, Barclay
Holt, Holmes, Smith, Mulyneux, Evans, Chapman, Buller
Tobin, Aikirl, Middleton, Moon, Chilton, Ripley, and Nicol