The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1853-06-07 00:00:00

THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD, TUESDAY, JUNE 7, 1853.

on the Saturday night. After I had polled I did not go back to
the Royal Oak ; I went to my own house. I did not receive
any money during that week or the next from any other person.
I was not at the Old Oak that week or the next, except on the
polling day. I did not receive any money for any person at
the Old Oak from any body. I know Evan Jones ; I received
on Saturday ss. for my day's wages. I received it from Jones,
who got it from Mr. Storey. I was not present when Storey
gave the money to Jones. I know Storey gave it to Jones,
because Jones told me on Saturday night. Evan Jones is a
shipwright, and worked in our yard. It was from him I first
learned that I was to have the ss. It was Evan Jones who
gave it me. Storey was in his office at the time. Evan Jones
gave me the whole of my wages into my hand from Mr. Storey.
He said there was ss. for my day's wages. Evan Jones is a
working man in the yard, like myself. Buckley Jones is the
master; Storey, the cash-keeper; and Evan Jones, a workman
like myself, and the keeper of the public-house. Evan Jones
told me the ss. was for the nomination day.
By the CHAIRMAN: I did not get paid from Storey's own
hands. I was a day and-a-half short of my week's work.
By Mr. BALL : Nothing was said to me of paying me for
voting at the election before I polled, but heard of it a quarter
of an hour before I voted from Mr. Fisher. Had always voted
for Mackenzie and Turner, and bad always voted on the same
side. Fisher spoke without me asking any question of him.
By the CHAIRMAN : Fisher said go and vote and your time
will be made good.
By Mr. RODIVELL What Fisher said to me had no effect
upon my voting. I always intended to vote for Mackenzie and
Turn er.

By the CHAIRMAN: Could not say that all the persons in the
yard voted on the same side,
John Foulds : I am a freeman and voted at the last election
for Mackenzie and Turner. lam a shipwright, but I was not
working at the time of the election. I polled from the Old Oak.
I came down from the Town-hall. I saw Mackenzie and
Turner's procession that day at the Town-hall, and part of it in
Great George-street. 1 know Mr. Evan Jones, who keeps the
Old Oak, and I saw him walking with the procession at that
time. It was a returning body of the procession that was
there, and Jones walked out of the body of the procession, and
come forward to me. I supposed lie was leading the party, and
they appeared to be going to his house. He asked me if I was
going to vote, and then would I come and poll from his house.
I said yes, I had made no promise, and I'd as lief go and vote
from it as anywhere else. I did vote next morning from his
house. I went from the Oak to the poll. I went in an omnibus.
Other persons, upwards of twelve or fourteen, were there. The
whole of them were voters, and the whole of them went up and
polled for Mackenzie and Turner. After I had returned from
the poll to the Oak I saw Mr. Buckley Jones in a room. He
was distributing the favours, red and blue. I don't know if
that was Mackenzie and Turner's favours. Blue and red meant
Mackenzie and Turner, I believe. I got two, one red and one
blue. It was not light blue. I knew some of the voters at the
Old Oak by sight; indeed all of them, but did not know their
names, although I was aware that they were all voters for
Liverpool. 1 saw Mr. Buckley Jones do nothing but distribute
favours, and make himself free with the men there. who were
under him. He was in and out of the room several times. I
remained in the Old Oak a couple of hours. Mr. Buckley Jones
was not there all the time, nor longer than five minutes at a
time. I did not receive any money at that time; but on Satur-
day I received from Evan Jones, the landlord of the house, Is.
in two half-crown pieces. I got the money from him in one of
the apartments. There was no agreement made, and I did not
ask him for anything. He did not speak to me, nor did I
speak to him. Without it was to remunerate me for my attend-
ance at his house, I cannot tell what the ss. was for. 1 was
appointed to go there on Saturday; it was circulated through-
out the neighbourhood that the freemen wbo had polled should
go up there on Saturday and get the money. The freemen who
had voted for Mackenzie and Turner. I can't say who told
me. It was rumoured amongst the neighbours, and I heard it
from many. It was said publicly that we men who had voted
should go up to the Old Oak to receive the money we should
have had. We did receive the money. Men who had polled
were there while I was present, and I saw Jones give it to about
nine. They all got the same, I suppose; at all events, they got
something. The whole of them I knew to be voters.

Cross-examined : I first heard that I was to go to Evan
Jones's on the Saturday before the election. At the time I
voted I knew nothing of the ss. I formerly worked in the yard,
and he was formerly an old fellow-workman and acquaintance.
I said that the public report was that the "freemen" were to
go up to Jones's. I thought they were all " freemen."
By the CHAIRMAN: When Jones asked me to poll from his
house, he said breakfast was provided at his house, but he said
nothing about pay.

By Mr. FRES Fl FIELD : The procession I saw in Great George-•
street, with colours and music, belonged to that part of the town.
Richard Richardson: I am a freeman, and polled at the last
election from the house of Evan Jones for Mackenzie and
Turner. I was working at that time for Mr. Legg. I was paid
7s. 3d. a-day, as we were very busy. We polled about 9 o'clock
in the morning, and-went to the booth with a great many more,
some of whom were voters and fellow-workmen. I did not do
any work at my trade on the nomination day and polling day.
I went to the Old Oak on the afternoon of the polling day,
when Evan Jones was knocking about and making himself
ag►eeable. I received six days' pay from Legg and ss. from
Jones on the Monday after the election. I received the cash
in Mill-street for my day's work. I did net expect it at the
time. No conversation had taken place between us about the
ss. No one had asked me for my vote. I went to Evan Jones's
because be invited me on the morning of the polling day. I
told him who I was going to poll for, and he invited me, and I
went to his house, and that was all that took place.

By Mr. RODWELL: The ss. came quite unexpected to me.
Several others were going about the room as ►ell as Jones, and
I rode up to the booth with twenty others.

Simon Croft : I am a shipwright. I am a freeman, and at
the last election for sfackenzie and Turner I was working at
that time for Oats and Miller at the rate of ss. a-day. I voted
from the Old Oak between 9 and 10 o'clock in the morning. I
did not work at my trade either on the nomination or election
days. Evan Jones asked me who I was going to vote for. The
day before the election I said to him that he might put my
name down, but be was not to depend upon me, for I would
not promise. I went to his house, and went afterwards to the
booth in the 'bus with some others. William Dodd was the
only man I knew. He went with ine there, and he is a fellow.
workman of mine. I thought I saw Naylor at the house. I
know Charles Burrows there, but he did not go down in the
omnibus with me. I saw Owen Jones there, and others whom
I did not know. I polled about half-past 9 o'clock, and after-
wards walked about the town, and after dinner in the afternoon
I went back to the Old Oak. I saw Buckley Jones in a 'bus in
Mill-street. I did not see him at the Old Oak. Evan Jones,
the landlord, paid me my wages. He paid me the amount of
55.-2 s. 6d. in money and the rest in drink. That was done on
the Saturday. It was for my lost time on the day..of the
election. Cato and Miller's clerk paid me the wages I had
worked for. 1 don't recollect what I received. It was only
for what I worked, and for nothing else. When Evan Jones
paid rqe the 55., not a word passed. I went to get it for my
lost tifne. I asked nobody for it. In the course of the week,
before the election, he told us we should be made comfortable.
He wanted me to put my name down. There were several
persons from whom I heard that I was to receive 3s. I and
Willie Dodd went to get the 35., and we both got it at the same
time. We went there because we had been told by several of
the voters.

Cross-examined : Evan Jones told me to come there. We
were fellow-workmen, and when I said you may put my name
down, 1 meant I would come to his house, and nothing about
my vote. I have always voted " Red" at previous elections.
By the CHAIRMAN : I first heard of it the last day after the
polling.

Charles Maxwell : I am a shipwright, and was working at
the time of the last election for Messrs. Mackey and Miller. I
am a freeman, and voted for Mackenzie and Turner. I polled
from the Old Oak. After the polling, we returned to the Oak :
it was about 3 o'clock when we returned ; I remained till 9
o'clock. Buckley Jones was at the public-house mustering the
men to go off in the omnibusses. He said first to the one and
then to the other, " Will you come—will you come ?" Mr.
Miller paid me my wages that week. He paid me ten days and
a quarter. We were making a day and a quarter each day.
6s. 3d. is the wages for a day and a quarter. The sum I re-
ceived at the end of the week was g-'1 16s. 3d. Evan Jones
Paid me on Saturday for the day I was off—that was the polling-
day. He paid me that on Saturday. No person canvassed me,
except some making inquiries. I polled from the Old Oak,
because I was invited to come, and was told that I might have
a day's wages.

Cross-examined : I have always voted " Red," and the ss.
did not make me vote for Mackenzie and Turner; I always in-
tended to vote for them. I expected that, whether I voted or
not, I should get the ss.

By Mr. WILLIANfS: Did you ever know a voter who got
bread, and meat, and ale, and 3s. without voting ?
Witness : No, I cannot say that I ever did.

Hermann Lott, a person employed in the printing depart-
ment of thz Liverpool Mail office, with reference to the report
of the Amphitheatre meeting of the 3d of April, and the adver-
tisement connected with that meeting, deposed : I superin-
tended the printing of the pamphlet report; 5,000 were
printed, but Ido not know who paid for them. I occasionally
went to the Central Committee's office to get as many orders as
possible. I received orders from _Mr. Buckmaster, Mr.
Williams, and others. I understood the work would be paid
for, and so I was quite satisfied. I was not sanctioned by my
employer to go to the committee-rooms for orders. No one
else was present when I received the orders. Were the work
not paid for, I do not know who Mr. Sherlock would line pro-
secuted for his money. I could not say who were the accre-
dited agents of the association,
By Mr. W►LLIAMS : I never took proofs.to the Constitutional
Association office.

By Mr. BALL : The work we did was chiefly the address-bills
of Messrs. Mackenzie and Turner to the electors of Liverpool.
Could not say whether I was printing for the Constitutional
Association or the election committee of the two candidates.
The addresses were printed from re-print copy out of a Liver-
pool paper.

Mr. Sherlock recalled: This book contains my account
against the committee. 5,000 copies of the pamplet are charged.
I received .6200 from Mr. Bold, but as to who I'm to get the
balance from, it is not a question for me to find out. During
thepast few months I have applied to the Constitutional Associa-
tion for payment. I have applied to the staff of officials, and I
have applied to Mr. Bold, Mr. Buckmaster, and Mr. Cooper.
The charges in my Book are down partly to " Election Com-
mittee," and the rest to " Constitutional Association, per
H. Buckmaster." 2SO is still due. I made a general claim
to Mr. Bold. I have not two accounts. The charge for the
pamphlet is -€25 Os 10d. I did not deliver any bill of particu-
lars personally ; but one was made up, and I believe a message
came to make out the bill immediately. This was done by my
manager and my book-keeper. I applied to Mr. Buckmaster
at the Constitutional Association for payment. I believe all
the risen there are honourable men, and so I felt easy and safe.
The items were all placed under one head in the ledger. Neither
Mr. Bold nor Mr. Buckmaster have made objections to the
amounts which I have charged. In my conversation with Mr.
Buckmaster, he intimated to me that the bill had been checked
off. Subsequent to the election I have applied several times
for the money at the Constitutional Office I applied to Mr.
Bold, but the same parties semed to be acting in two capacities,
and I could not understand the nature of the connection.
When I applied to Mr. Bold, the bill delivered was the subject
of our conversation. Mr. Bold was very kind, and brought
me down £2.00, and was very sorry that he could not pay the
whole of it. lam not aware that Mr. Bold had gone through
the bill in detail. In a conversation with Mr. Bold on a sub-
sequent occasion, he said that I need not be uneasy, as he
could refer me to a gentleman who would be responsible for
the payment of the account. He mentioned the name of Mr.
Horsfall ; but as there are several gentlemen of the same name,
I hodrisdnot know which be meant. I never called upon Mr.
rail.

George Taylor : I am a voter for Liverpool ; not a freeman,
but a householder. I am a file-cutter. lam acquainted with
a man of the name of Tobin. one of Ashley and Co.'s men. I
know a person called Bland ; and on the morning of the elec-
tion some one asked Bland and me who we were going to vote
for. Tobin was present at the time. This was in a public-
house. We said we should vote for Messrs. Mackenzie and
Turner. I know 11Plieverigan, who was there at the time;
and Bland and me agreed to vote without being paid. We
went and voted on the polling day. We did not arrange to
have any money. After the election, I made application to
IWKeverigan, and asked him whether he would do the same
with me that he had done with the rest. This was a month
afterwards. He said yes. I went there, understanding we
should have a day's pay, the same as the rest. It was Bland
who asked M‘Keverigan. I polled from a house in Pitt-street.
We went to APKeverigan's house twice, and both times he pro-
mised to give us the money. The second time Bland spoke.
I never received anything.

Cross-examined : When first asked for my vote, I said I
would vote for Mackenzie and Turner. Nothing was ever pro-
mised for my vote, and I never asked anything.
William Coward : I am a householder at Liverpool, and voted
at the last election. I was canvassed by Oxton, and next by
Mr. Huntingdon, a flower-dealer, who canvassed me on the
taming of the election. Mr. Oxton asked if there were any
voters tliere, and he answered yes. I polled about one o'clock,
and seferal other persons polled about the same time. I saw
a person named Peter Rice, on the morning of the election, in
Park-place. John Collister was there, and Samuel Cockerel.
I knew Mr. Arthur Davis, who was foreman to M‘Keverigan.
Davis spoke to me, and he said, are you going to vote? if you
put your names down, you will have your day's pay. It was
not mentioned who I was to vote for. He did not say anything
more. I did not see any book at that time, but I saw the book
in the evening, when he_put my name down. It was at Jones's,

the White Lan, in St.Jiiim—e-s-'ii-sTreet, that he put down-my
name. That was on the day preceding the polling day. I know
the Vine public-house in Pitt-street, and was at the Vine on
the election day before I was at the White Lion, where Davis