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the et her luxuries. The tecessariet he considered to be, the
walla of church-yards,. sexton's salary, &c., which ought to be
provided Air out of. the public purse; hut anything in the shape
of an organist he considered as a luxury, and the parties en-
joying it ought to pay for it. He mentioned these things not
. because he was opposed to music in churches, on the contrary,
he thought it a very desirable accompaniment. He had it in
hiS church, and he very cheerfully paid his proportion towards
supporting it ; but what he objected to was, that the persons
who derived the benefit of it came there for them to pay for it.
There was only one condition on which he would dispense with
singing from his own place of worship, and that condition
would be to have to go begging for the means of supportive g it.
It was also remarkable that all those churches which the corpo-
ration in Liverpool encouraged, should be the only churches
which were not flonrishiug. It seemed from the authority of
all time, that the Almighty blasted whatever was protected; in
the end it destroyed that interest which it.,was meant to pro-
mote; it. raised all mankind against it on account of its in-
justice. He considered this was a matter of .principle and nut
of expediency, and the subject ought not to betreatedmnder
the paltry pretext of expediency. In justification of withdraw-
ing this support from the churches, he might also say that the
dispensary, which no one would deny the utility ofit was an
institution in which the poor were relieved, of all sects and all
parties—and the corporation had thought it right to withhold a
subscription towards it, and now how could they with any pro-
priety he asked to contribute to the gratification of the parties
who attended the corporation churches. It would be a disgrace
to the town to he told that they were bound to take away their
support from the dispensaries and give it to the organists.
With regard to the municipal act by which the management of
their affairs was given to them, there was no privilege given to
any sect or party; and in case there should be a surplus of
their funds, there was an express provision made that it should
be emiloyed in the public beuefit.of the inhabitants, not for the
advantage of a party or of a sect, but for the improvement of
the borough at large. With these views, the subject having un-
dergone much inquiry, he thought the time was now arrived
when they should declare what line of conduct they would pur-
sue, and be should therefore propose fur the adoption of the
council the following resolution ;—" That the payment of the '
funds of the corporation on account of charges described in the
report as not obligatory, be discontinued, and that the future
expenditure be strictly confined to such items as are obligatory
and legal, due regard being observed to economy in the pay-
ments for services performed, and work to be done. The pro-
ceedings in Chancery in the endowment cause being still pend-
ing, renders it unnecessary at present to consider that part of
the report which refers to the stipends of the clergy. This re-
' solution to take effect on the let of November next, and a copy
of it to be sent to the churchwardens of the churches,concerned,
by the town-clerk." He thought this extension of time neces-
sary ;: not to turn the organists and choristers.off;as they might-
come upon them for compensation. .
Mr. Councillor LA wattrics HEYWORTH rose in support of
the principle advocated by Mr. Bolton. He hoped they Would
be faithful to the charge with which, they wore entrusted, When
he considered that they Were -the -representatives of the whole
bridy of the town—of every denomination. of Christiaus, and of
Jews too. What would be the effect on their minds ika, pro-.
posal should be made to grant an addition to the stipeigs,p,tlig
ministers'of any other sect out of the funds of the ni.i"PbtlitititY. I
Such a prepoaition would-be at once negatived.: in ikkatuttbigut
and very properly. If thiS were to be granted„.litrisefomil
in justice refuse the applications of any otheilsecf.--He co
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sidered that no advantage could be.
but on the 'contrary. He considered thatErgkiii9ll
t,
things, to be carried on the principlefree trade. -ITel ton
never existed but by .divine appeintment, aintidoild tSrititidff p:
ported by compulsory measures. He most cordially.agreed. in
the principle which Mr. Bolton had advanced.
Mr. Alderman BROWN gave the gentleman who had brouel.t
forward this resolution credit for the, manner ittYivitiCltilbe.y had
acted on this occasion. He was sure they would haveAf4etiltiu
the same manner had it been to take these' iteiris-frotti- the
Catholics. He rose to propose au amendment somewhat -dif-
ferent to that of which he had given notice. These items were
not justifiable by law; but when they looked at the heavy ex-
peuditure for these churches they should take into consideration

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that a considerable number of pews in these churches were, not
rented but left free for the poor burgesses, which would greatly
diminish the amount of the receipts. In the amendment he
should propose he should not go the length that it had been
anticipated he intended to go. He should move "That a Com-
mittee be appointed to take into consideration the subject of
the whole church proprty of the corporation, and to report
upon the most desirable management of it; due regard being
had to the payments which are obligatory and Not obligatory,
and to such as are expedient and
,not expedient, and all with
' reference to the maintenance and increase of the rents of the
seats, as a matter of sound discretion." He was not desirous of
perpetuating charges which were unnecessary, but as Conser-
.VatorS of the Borough property they-were placed these to make
the most of it. Probably some gentleman would do him the
honour of seconding his amendment.
Mr. Councillor DUNCAN would cordially second the attend-
meat' proposed by Mr. Brown. He considered that they were
entrusted with the care of the churches. To a certain extent
theY'were.protected by act of Parliament, and they were bound
.to maintain those acts to their full extent, and theY were also
bound to maintain the churches as they now were in all their
efficiency. If it were in his power he would add to the stipends
of the clergy instead of diminishing them, and most willingly,
as he considered they were inadequately paid,
The AI AYOR.—The question of the stipends of the clergy was
not then under consideration. - •. •
Mr. Councillor Portc.visaid he should be.very glad to defer
the whole question'till the endowment was settled.
The TOWN-CLERK then read over the resolution and amend-
ment.

Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN said he had a strong objection to
Ur. Brown's amendment, inasmuch as the subject had already
undergone, by one committee, the most minute investigation.
All that could be done, was done to their hands. ( Hear.) Mr.
Brown's motion did net propose that such a committee as he
wished to have appointed, would be at all final, so that the mat-
ter would again come before them in the same state, without
any additional information. Upon that ground, therefore, he
should object to the adoption of the amendment: Had Mr.
Brown proposed that the subject should go back to the Finance
Committee, for their final decision---
Mr. Alderman Beowiv.—l have no objection to that.
Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN.—IIad he proposed that, he
should still haVe objected to that course even; for he did think
that they were getting too much into 1 he habit of giving to coin-
mittees the decision of questions which they ought to decide
upon themselves. (Hear.) He should strongly object to giving
the decision of this question to the Finance Committee, which
they themselves ought to decide upon. Six or eight weeks ago
it would he remembered that he had had the honour of intro-
ducing a resolution the tendencY of which was to prevent any
grants to schools, and the ground of his objection was, that it
would be the safest course to keep completely clear of any such
expenditure as was not immediately for the benefit of all parties.
That resolution was carried, and he trusted it would form a
permanent principle of action for succeeding ages. If it was
right and proper to adopt that resolution, then surely it. was
most decidedly right and proper to keep clear of encouraging
any particular sect by the payment of sums of money for the
support of any portion of their establishments. If it was not
right to give to the schools against which there was the least
objection, still more strongly was it desirable that they should
keep themselves clear from any direct encouragement of an,
denomination of christians by voting sums of money for their
support ; and therefore he called on all those who had supported
that resolution, in consistency, to support Mr. Bolton's motion ;
and he trusted that those gentlemen who had supported that
resolution, would now do equal justice to all parties. He thought
they had committed themselves in that resolution to the sanction
of a general principle, the application of which to the present
case was perfectly clear. There •was no opposition to church
establishments ! He disclaimed all such feelings ; all they
claimed, was equal justice, and that no favour should be shown
to any one portion more than another. Dissenters were in the
habit of supporting their own institutions; they received no
support from any one. Let them be Consistent, and if they
refused to give to those who were more necessitous and less ob-
jectionable, let them not give those things which were open to
objection, and which might be called luxuries. Whatever dif-
ference there might be on the propriety of,singing and music in
places of viorship, they were bound to withhold their funds for
these objects. When they had gone to their utmost length in
withholding payments from the episcopalians or that sect esta-
blished by law, yet there still remained permanent charges, se-
cured by act of parliament, of very large.sums of money; so that
when they bad done their best to do away with this they should
still stand in the predicament of giving a very large and perma-
nent sum for the support of the church And heconsidered that
this injustice would be greatly aggravated to grant these sums,
when £l6OO a-year was already settled on the churches by act of
parliament. They were surely not called upon in justice to add to
the amount of this grave injustice, for injustice it was, though it
was authorised by act of parliament, which act it was their duty
to obey. An idea had been thrown out in conversation on this
subject, that they should view these churches as a sort of trad-
ing concern which they were bound to keep up, and that they
should make the best of them, and that by paying for music
they should get more from the letting of the seats than they
would without music. He strongly objected to this view of the
subject. He thought it degrading to the churches themselves,
and that such a view, of the subject was particularly offensive.
It seemed to hint to take for granted that the music and singing
were more important than the religious instruction. He thought
they should do great discredit to the ministers of those churches
—that they should pay a very left-handed compliment to the
congregations if they proceeded on the supposition that they
would deprive themselves of music if they should refuse to pat:
for it for them. He believed the result would be not to diminish
in the slightest degree thiise services, but to excite individuals •
to come forward and provide themselves with what was now pro-
vided by the public money. He did not think they had reason
to apprehend any falling off in the seat rents if they should dis-

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continue•paying for ther music, fur it would be provided by the
congregations.: They had had some, proof lately of the good ef-
fect of causing persons to exert themselves; when that council
had determined to open the schools to the whole community, they
did not anticipate that the happy result would be a subscription
of £ll,OOO. (Cheers.) Let them be prepared to withdtaw
these paymenti, acting on thiS principle, and there would not
be the least deduction from the, efficiency and success of the
worship carried on in those places, and, instead of doing them
a disservice' ortreating them With disrespect or evincing any-
thing like a hostile spirit towards them, they would be doing
essential service in increasing the discharge of those duties,
which were theamblest enjoyment of which their nature was ca-
pable. With these views lie supported, with all his heart, Mr.
Bolton's resolution.

Mr. Councillor—EAßLE quite agreed in every thing Mr.
Blackburn had said. He did not• see what more they could
have by referring the report again to the same committee.
They could only repOrt the same things over again. He
thought it more manly for them to declare their sentiments at
once. He thought Mr. Bolton's arguments were quite con-
cluske, and he, as a churchman, should support his resolution.
(H,ear, hear.)

Mr. Councillor WALMSLEY, as a member of the established
church, begged to say he was quite satisfied that no churchman
would consent to receive any sum from the Corporation which
was considered illegal. He trusted the time was not far distant,
when churchmen would refuse to receive any part of the funds
which ought to be expended eXclusiVely for the public good.
Mr. Councillor EGKRTON SMITH said Mr,.Boltnn called on
them to do merely what the law required them to do.. They
could not appropriate any sums which *ere not from a surplus
of the corporation funds. It had frequently been his misfor-
tune to ask for money, and he had always been answered that
there was no surplus tutor. It appearedto him that this grant
would be throwing away the public money. for purposes extra.
judicial. It appeared to tin, if they Were to grant these autos,
they could not refuse gratfts to Other.public congregations be-
sides the Church of England. There were 60,000 Catholics in
Liverpool; and St. Patrick's Chapel was considerably in debt.
He thought, after making the vote Which was „contemplated,
they would be "saddled" with a poor excuse to say to these
people if they asked for some of the public money, " we can
give you nothing." It appeared to him that they were called
on to do that -which the Jaw required, them to do. Ile quite
agreed with Mr. Blackburn that if the church was' thrown ou its
own resources it would tionrish better than if bolstered up.
Mr. Alderman Bnow*inexplanation thOqght there must be
some mistake on the part otthese gentlemen who bad adVopated
the resolution. They knew,that the Churches, where there was
pea niuSid and' &hi foi t 6.121 were'alVeti'd'ed,'aii'd.—

Mr. COUTICiIIOI' BOSTON,
Went dad cannot he: heard."
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The MAYOR decided that it was so. lie bad merely given
Mr Brown an opportunity of explanation.
Mr. Councillor il. LAWRENCE thought since-the unprofitable
state of the corporation churches had been under consideration
there was one thing which should not be overlooked, and that
was the great number of free seats in those chtirches. He did
not make any allusion to St. George's, where there certainly
had been great extravagance. In St. Michael's there were 520
free sittings; in St. Luke's 2611; and similarly in the other
churches. All those who attended those churches were charged
very high rents for their seats, and they should have all that
was expected in an established church for it. He did not think
that any good would come front wasting arguments upon the
council, as he saw the .general feeling was against the grant.
As a matter of expediency he did not call it. "a noun and paltry
pretext." He thought expediency ought to be looked to on ail
occasions. He should Certainly support Mr. Brown's amend-
ment, as it.was not worth elide making another amendment
upon the motion, or he should somewhat have modified the
amendment. He would have . proposed that those churches
where the corporation derived the whole of the funds should be
efficiently kept up by the corporation, and that St. George's
should have au organist. What made these churches generally
so unproductive was the number of free seats they contained.
Mr. Councillor BOLTON said it was the common practice for
the movers of resolutions to reply where amendments were
made. In his opinion there was little in the way of argument
which required refuting. With regard to the resolution of Mr.
Brown ti support the provision which was made to-the four
churches, the objection he had to it was, that the singing of
these churches was a luxury which the congregations themselves
ought to pay for, and therefore he considered that this had
nothing whatever to do with the matter of supporting the places
of worship. He would go to the very utmost in stretching the
law fur their accommodation, but this was in effect a gratifica-
tion for the rich; and it happened most unfortunately: for the
observation that the church to which the fewest poor went, St.
George's, was the most expensive. Mr. Blackburn had very
justly observed, that the established church had the advantage
of a legal protection, and he would not now increase these ad-
vantages. It seemed to him most singular, that is all those dis-
sensions it was always an affair of pocket between those who
had privileges already, wishing to retain or increase them at
the expense of others. He believed there was nothing further
on which he wished to observe. He should call for the decision
of the council as the question now stood, firmly persuaded that
everything in the nature of argument went for his motion.
The MAYOR, after inquiring if any gentleman wished to make
any further observations, said before they voted he would take
the liberty of saying one word. He did so now as he did nut
like to interrupt Mr. Blackburn whilst he was speaking. It—
Mr. Councillor BOLTON (interrupting)—" I have replied to
what has been said on this subject, and I conceive that no one
person has any right to say any thing further upon it."
The MAYOR—" I am entitled to make the observations I am
about to make. On previous"-,--
Atr. Councillor BOLTON (persisting)—" Before I replied you
had, the right to address the council., Really after I have
spoken; to address the • council is contrary to all rule both in
'par/latnent and Out of it'as far as' I am acquainted." •
Matrott—': I have-only to 'observe -that .1 have hitherto
den eas• 1. was. about. to do on: the present occasion. I have no
%Vsfi take the slightest advantage.; but if it is the opinion of
thecouneil that 'I ought not 'to address theirs, I shall nut. lam
sorry that Lhaire loSt the opportunity?'
• Mt' BowrioN lagain interrupted.
1 he M4yon (sitting down)—" I ant the last person to give
the. council an opportunity of calling me to order. Go to the
vote. (Bond cries from all parts of the room of 'Ni), no, no;
speak?) No, I shall not; vote. (To the Town-clerk.) Go on."
The division was theu taken, when there appeared, for the
'aniendinent, Messrs. H. Holmes, Mellor, Birch, Woollwright,
H. Lawrence, Saudars, Duncan, Brown, and the Mayor.
Against the amendment, Messrs. S. Hope, Thornhill, Shell,
Harvey,. Smith, Thornely. Rawson, L. Heyworth, ‘Valins-
ley, Bolton, Rushton, H. Hornbv, Rathboue, Preston. J.
Lawrence, Aikin, Lassel, T. Holt, Earl, Morecroft, Btackbuin,
Coglau, Alison. J. Cropper, Tayleur, Evans, Bl.kin. 0. Her-
worth, Moon, Freme, Barclay, Stuart, Leathow, T. Smith,
Jones, and Berm,
Against the amendment, 36; for the amendment, 9 ; majority,
27.

"I submit th:it nets argu-

Absent, Messrs. J. Holmes, llorsfall, Logan, M‘Gregor,
Barton, Bright, Maxwell, Carson, Brocklebank, Roskell, E.
Cropper, Leigh, G. Holt, Jordan, Bulley, Robinson, Booth,
and J. Hortiby.
The original motion was then put by the members rising
from their seats. The motion was then declared carried.
sLACGIIT.ER-HoUSES.
The MAYOR said the next subject was the report of the sub-
committee of finance on slaughter-houses.
The TowN CLERK then read the report orthe sub-committee
of finance, appointed to take the necessary proceedings for car-
rying the removal of the slaughter-houses into effect with expe-
dition. The report set forth that the committee had received a
letter from Mrs. Dodd, the occupier of a slaughter-house in
Cable-street, under an unexpired lease from which she received
a small income. The report further detailed that an act 26th
George 3rd, for the improvement of the borough and supFres-
slim of nuisances, after reciting that the slaughtering or killing
of beasts and cattle in the public parts of the town, was found to
be exceedingly noisome and offensive, for remedy thereof the
Common Council were authorised to purchase such lands within
the liberties of the town, as they should think fit fur the pur-
pose, and of building slaughter-houses tnereon ; and it was
enacted that henceforth no beast should be killed or di essed else-
where in the town, under the penalty of 20s for each offeuce.
' By the Ist George 4th (1820,) these provisions are recognised,
and regulation for the existing slaughter-houses provided till the
new erections are completed. It appeared that there were in
the public parts of the old borough 54 slaughter-houses, many
of which were common nuisances, and iu the opinion of the
committee, the health and comfort of the the inhabitant had for
years past required their removal to some more convenient si-
tuation. This subject having been taken up by the late coun-
cil, a lease of land near Brownlow-hill was, under their direction,
granted to Mr. J. Clifford Etches, on which new slaughter-houses
were to be erected, conformably with the act of parliament.
Under this lease, buildings for the slaughter of cattle, to a very
considerable extent, had been erected by Mr. Etches, and were
now ready for use. By the terms of the arrangement of the
late council with Mr Etches, the lease was granted for 75 years,
at a nominal wit and without any fine, upon a surrender of old
terms for lives :and years. The late council also entered into a
covenant with Mr. Etches, that they would carry into effect the
powers vested in them by 26th George 3rd, for preventing the
slaughter of cattle in any other part of the town but the new
slaughter houses, and into a further covenant for guaranteeing
to him a rent of £6 103 per cent, on the total amount of money
that he might expend, not exceeding L 17,500. The whole of
this amount was represented by Mr. Etches to have been ex-
pended, consequently the corporate estate was responsible to
hint, under the pledge of the late council, for a guaranteed rent
of £1137 10s. With the corporate estate so pledged, the execu-
tive had devolved on the present council without giving them
any power of variation. [The regulations for the government
of the new slaughter-houses were here embodied in the report.]
By the lease, Mr. Etches was under covenant not to charge
greater rents than would amount in gross to £1330. The new
slanghter.-houses appeared to the sub-committee to have been ,
erected upon a plan well calculated for preventing the killing
and dressing of the beasts from being any nuisance in the
neighbourhood, being amply provided with sewers, water, &c.
The sub-committee expressed regret that it should have fallen
upon the council to execute duties under arrangements over
which they have no control, and that the removal must be at-
tended with loss in several eases they lamented also that some
scheme had not been originally adopted which would have given
the trade a general interest in the erections, and afforded com-
pensation, in particular cases of hardship, at the expense of the
general undertaking.

Mr. Alderman 13nowN begged to move that the proceedings
of the finance committee on this subject he approved, and that
it be then referred back to the sub-committee, for the purpose of
carrying it into execution. The suction was seconded by Mr.
Stuart.

Mr. COMICIIIOrJA min LAwnr.NcE should like to know whether
all slaughter-houses were to be removed ?
The AlAvoit said the committee would be able to anfter that
question.
Mr. Councillor EARLE thought that every slaughter-house in
the town, should be declared a nuisance.

Mr. Councillor J. LAWRENCE made the enquiry because he
had lived near some slaughter-houses for 20 years, which were
no nuisances. He thought that the committee, some of whom
were present, could have answered his question.
The Town-cLEnit submitted that the consideration of this
subject required a great deal of deliberation before an answer
could be given by the committee, and it would be better if that
committee were not to commit themselves by giving an incon-
siderate answer.

Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN understood that this general
abattoir was to supersede all others in the town.
The TowN-cLuni..—"The report states that all others will
be under the penalty of £2O if continuing, and informed against ;
and it further stated that the fine would be enforced.
Mr. Councillor Btecu then moved that the report be printed,
which was seconded by Mr. Holmes.

Councillor BLACKBURN thought it should be advertised
in the newspapers.
Mr. Alderman LEATHOM objected, on the ground of expense;
there were 13 papers iu the town, and the expense would be
be very great.
Mr. Councillor 11. LAwnaNcs thought it should be handed
to the gentlemen of the Press to make what use they thought
pmper.
lite Report was then handed to the reporters, and it will be
seen Above that we have inserted it.
DISCUSSIONS OB THR COUNCIL.
Some discussion then occurred on the notice of a motion by
Mr. RArnaoNE that no new business should be discussed after
three o'clock at the council meetings. It was decided that it
should nut be in the power of any member to stop any discus-
sion going on when three o'clock arrived, but that after that
hour no new business should be entered into.
WATCH RATE, COUNTY RATE, LIGHTING RATE, AND

ScAVENGERING RATE.
The Town-clerk read th© report of the watch committee to the
following effect. That the next month being the annual period
for laying the watch rate in this borough, such rate will now
have to be raised in like manner as a county rate, and accord-
ingly to be 'evicd by the overseers of the parish of Liverpool,
and of the townships comprised in the new part of the borough,
under the assessments of the council, the warrant of the Mayor,
and the warrants thereupon of a corporate officer to be appointed
to act as a high. constable. For the procuration of evidence on
which to ground the assessment, the committee submitted that
a committee should be appointed. with full power to call for all
icquisite returns from the several overseers. &c. and that the
Mayor should be the chairman of such committee, with power
to grant all necessary. precepts, &c. and to affix to them the
corporate Seal, required by law. The committee finding much
complication and consequent misunderstanding as to the seve-
ral rates, county, watch, lighting, and scavengering rates, sub-
mitted the following explanation.
Tice county rate upon the parish of Liverpool, had been up-
wards of l LOW per annum, upon the average of the last seven
years. It was levied for all county purposes, as, gaol, the
maintenance and punishment of prisoners, courts of justice,
coroners' charges, &c. Until the municipal act, it was .s charge
upon the parish, and was collected by the overseers upon the
parochial assessmeut, besides which, the parish contributed to
the extra costs of
the borough prosecutions , from which it was
relieved. The whole of this tate upon Liverpool, was now by
the municipal act to be borne by the corporation, either in pay-
ments directly for the prosecution maintenance, and punish,
meat of offenders, and the expense of gaols and coroners
Charges, or in payment of the balances to the county treasurer,
for general county purposes. The corporation had also in re-
spect of the new parts a the borough, to bear their proportionate
obligation to the county rate.
The watch rate by-
the municipal act, was limited to the
for sum expanded
average yearlythe nightly watch in Liver-
pool for the last seven years. That average amount Was
£8,631 ids. ILI, and the rate for it was4d. in the pound. 'r his
rate under the municipal act, was extended in like manner to
the new parts of the borough. So far as regarded the parish
of Liverpool, this new rate was nothing more than the old watch
rate, laid since 91st Geo. 2d, by the late commissioners of watch,
scavengers, and lamps, and both the old and new parts of the
borough had for their contribution on the scale of the old
nightl!" viatch, the benefirof a watch)by day and by night; at
the expense of the corporate estate.
The. liipitinif rate waS the old fate continued upon the palish

r.f Liverpool, as it was levied by the late connyissioners, and
e‘teniled, in like manuer, tv the newerts. 4d. in
theyoUnd.

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The scavenger? rate was the old rate continued. Tliere vas
no authority to extent: this ratelo the new parts of the borough,
which, for the present, remain is this respect under the geucral
highway act.
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On the question being put by the Mayor, the above report
was adopted.
The Towr;-ct.ERE read a reptitt from the committee on the
Borough Court and Courtpf Bequests, which set forth, that a
letter had been received from Mr. Timothy Parkinson, sergeant-
at-mace, dated lith September. 183 G, which requested that the
subject of his hail should be taken into further consider-
ation, as he deemed it too large, and begged that it might be re-
duced, and, in case this could not be complied with, he begged
to be informed what amount of compensation he might expect
in case of,dismissal. To this the Town-clerk had written in re-
ply, that no. alteration could be made in the amount of bail
required. bat Mr. Parkinson was requested to attend the coin-
tnittee on the following day—and further, that the latter could
not state what sum .Mr. Parkinson might get if he, claimed
compensation.,• When the committee met on the following day,
a letter was received from Mr. Parkinson, stating that 'he,cotad
not procure the large amount of bail required, and that his
difficulty had been increased . by the lamented death. of Mr.
Foster, to whom he should have applied, and who had offered to
be his security
.for his former situation, but that he was ready
and willing to give the security which the old corporation had
taken (£1,500.), tUnder these circumstances, tha committee
recommended, as a lest amount of security could not be taken,
that they should proceed to the appointment of a sergeant.
Mr. H. LAWRENCE suggested that the report be referred
back to the committee, to see if some other arrangement could
not vet be come to.

The TOWN-CLERK said they had offered to take from -Mr.
Parkinson four sureties of £o(X) etzeb, but this had been refused.
Mr. LAWRENCE said that was just what he was about to
recommend.

Mr. WALAISLEY said any further arrangement with the ser-
geant•at-mace was impossible. The report was then adopted
on the motion of Mr. Rathbone, seconded by Mr. li. Law-
rence.

The TOWN CLERK announced that a petition had been pre-
sented to the Treasury from Mr. Parlour, on the subject of his
claim for Compensation. This had been forwarded
.by the
Treasnry to the Mayor, to the purpose that he may ask the
Council why they refuse compensation to Mr. Parlour. The
subject was referred to the committee on compensations, that
they may report to the Council.
The M.s.YoR said in reference to what had fallen from Mr.
Blackburn on the subject of referring to committees, and which
he had formerly attempted to reply to, he begged to say that it
had but seldom happened that they had granted full powers to
any committee. They always had a due regard for their oWn
dignity by directing that reports should be wade back to them-
selves.

The Council then adjourned to Friday, the 30th inst. at eleven
o'clock.

THE BOTANIC GARDEN EXHIBITION.

The second public exhibition of flowers and fruits at the Bo-
tanic Garden, and the last of the season, was held on Wednesday
last, The weather, as on the previous exhibition, was extieniely
favourable, being a fine, clear, bright September day, bracing
with its freshness, As on the previous occasion, tents were
erected along the top of the garden besides the greenhouses,
forming a long promenade; down the centre ran a broad table,
on which were placed the various flowers and fruits exhibited.
A table at the upper end of the marquee was devoted to flowers,
another below to fruits, and one on the extreme left to vegeta-
bles. humediatel% in front of this down the garden the foun-
tain played, exhibiting some very pretty devices: one in which
an apple was poised on the top of a jet of water had a very
pleasing effect. To ihe right of this a tent for refreshments was
erected, tastefully hung round with ivy, and to the left Stubls'
military band was stationed enlivening the scene with many
beautiful airs. The garden since the last exhibition has im-
proved considerably in appearance, the shrubs looking bolder
and the beds more thickly planted, taking away much front the
naked appearance before presented. The unfinished part at
the bottom of the garden is also now completed, and added
much to the general appearance. Where before was ruin and
chaos there is now a pool of water, in the centre having au arti-
fiieial rock which is converted into a fountain throwing up jets
of water, which falls around it, and sutrouhding the pool is a
mount of artificial rock. This forms an ornamental finish to
that end of the garden, which before looked barren and unfi-
nished. The company was not so numerous as on the former
occasion, which gave rather an air of flatness to the exhibi-

tion. Though numerous groups were parading about, yet the
garden did not present any thing like the crowded and ani-
mated appearance which it did on the opening. The flower
show also bore no comparison to the last; many of the plants
before exhibited were again shown, and though there were seve-
ral rare specimens, yet generally the plants looked mean. 'Phis
may be attributed in a great measure to the time of the year.
The greenhouses, as before, were kept closed fur fear of injury
to the plants. Of the fruit which was exhibited, however, we
cannot speak too highly; it was beautiful beyond description;
we never saw any superior to it; almost every kind of fruit
was there in high perfection. The pines, grapes, melons,
plums, apples, pears, &c. &c. were spread out in rich and luxu-
rious profusion. To give an outline of the exhibition—we ob-
served at the top of the flower table the same group of the
cactm trtbe as were before exhibited. from the hothouse of C.
Tayleur, Esq., one of which, a very rare plant, tha Semis Senilis,
having the appearance of an old man's grey wig, won the prize.
Below this was a very fine plant of the plantain tribe, the pro-
perty of the garden, the Strelit:ea Ocala. On the table were
several baskets of flowers, plants, and bouquets of great beauty.
A prize plant, the property of Thomas Littledale, Esq., pre-
sented also a striking appearance on the table, the Yucca Phila.
mentosa; it is a very tall plant, bearing a bold white flower.
An excellent specimen of the fern tribe, the Stag's Horn Fern,
the property of Wm. Smith, Esq., obtained that prize. A new
species of Tropaolum exhibited, from Valparaiso, Solith Ameri-
ca, is also deserving of notice, and obtained an extra prize;
the property of Mr. Tomlins. The Balsams were very indifferent.
The finest plant in the exhibition was an Eugenia Aqua, of the
Myrtle tribe. It is a magnificent plant, and the first that has
produced fruit in England; it bore three apples, of a fig shape,
and of a deep and tine crimson colour. It is an East Indian
plant, and the property of the garden. Below this were one or
two fine specimens of Oeraniums, the property of Thomas Little-
dale, Esq. At the bottom of the table was a splendid plant, the
Asclepias Solicifolia, beating a very singular flower resembling
small green bladders. Near the bottom of the table was a very
fine plant, the Antura Arborea, bearing a very white large bell-
shaped flower, the property of Mrs. Cropper. Near this were two
or three very beautiful specimens ofCarcombs, the property (AN.
Walker, Esq., the president. At the bottom was a fungus plant
of the mushroom tribe, a very rare specimen, the property of
Charles Horsfall, Esq., called the Petra Funqatia, the stone
fungus, or mushroom stone, from the western coast of Africa.
A gigantic specimen of the Crinurn Amabile, the property of
Charles Horsfall, Esq., ended this table. On the next table a
basket of dahlia bouquets, the property of Mrs. Preston, was
very ornamental. Below this the display of dahliaS was very
splendid, their variegated appearance having a pretty effect.
Amongst the fruit was a beautiful globe pine, raised by hot water,
the property of Mrs. Crossley, which obtained the first prize. A
very beautiful basket of fruit, containing figs, pears, grapes,
magnum bonum plums, and peaches, the property of Thomas
Littledale, Esq., obtained the £5 prize given by the president.
A basket of fruit, the property of Mr. Walker, also attracted a
good deal of attention. A basket of fruit, containing some very
fine grapes and some very beautiful pears, the property of Mrs.
Cropper, obtained an extra prize. A basket of black grapes,
the property of Mrs. Cropper, was also very fine. There was
also a bunch of green grapes, weighing nearly slbs., which was
very beautiful. Below this was a collection of apples and pears
from the nursery of Mr. Whalley, of the South Crescent, which
attracted much attention, there being almost every description
of apple, and of the finest specimens. Below this the vegetables
were arranged, and were very fine, especially the celery.
The company began to disperse about four o'clock, as the af-
ternoon drew in cold. Subjoined we give a list of the prizes
awarded :

The best six Calceolarias—Messrs. Whalley.
Pan of Carnations, consisting of seven blooms, viz.:—
Perfection, Memnon, Rowtord, Bellerophon, Lady
Hood, Prince George, and Princess Victoria—Mr.
W. Thomson, of Everton.
Six Coxcombs—J. N. Walker, Esq.
Ferns—W. Smith, Esq., of Fulwood.
Grapes, (Lombardy,)—Mrs. Cropper.
Second prize of Grapes (Muscat)—Mrs. Preston.
The best Pan of Panscvs—Charles Horsfall, Esq.
Melon (Egyptian Green Flesh)—C. Tayleur, Esq.
Orcbideee plant—W. Smith, Esq.
Six Pelargoniums—T. Littledale, Esq.
Pine—Mrs. Crossley. •
Succulent Plant—C. Tayleur, Esq.
Six Stove or Greenhouse Plants—Mrs. Cropper.
Ditto (Second Prize)—Messrs. Whalley.
Single Stove or Greenhouse Plant—C. Horsfall, Esq.
Ditto (Second Prize)—Mrs. Cropper.
Shrubbery Plant—Messrs. Whalley.
Herbaceous Plant—'l'. Littledale, Esq.
Pan of Six Dahlias—Mr. 'l'. Fletcher.
Ditto (Second Prize)—Mr. T. Walker.
Three Heads of Celery—Mr. T. Walker.
Basket of Vegtables, consisting of celery, parsnips,
onions, carrots, French beans, turnips. cauliflowers,
red beet, parsley, vegetable marrow, savoys, cucum-
bers, and cabbage--Mr. Walker.
Second best basket of Vegetables, cauliflowers, onions, celery,
cabbage, parsnips, French beans, lettuce, peas, carrots, and
parsley—W. Smith, Esq.
Best basket of cut flowers—J. N. Walker, Esq.
Second ditto—R. W. Preston, Esq. •
Best basket of plants—T. Littledale, Esq.
Second ditto—J. N. Walker, Esq.
'l'he
tt led President's
Es
(l
g.! ftfor of
the.f. 5
following was %sardfer ,u 1
fruits:—grape„, the
rguapre,l„en
plumbs.cherries, nectarines, figs, strawberries, pears, currants,, owes,
and
EXTRA PRIZES.—Petra: Fongaria, or Mushroom Stone —C.
Horsfall, Esq.
Preston.Nr ,r
Tropwlium pl. nova—. s.
-- Basket of Fruit, grapes, figs, apples, currants,
Cut flowers—Mrs.
Apricots, melons, and lemons—W. Smith,
Esq.
Basket of Fruit, pines, melons, grapes, nec-
tarines, pears, and apples—Charles Tay-
Balsekueri , i,'-'; "1.
Fruit, grapes, pears, and apples—
Mrs.— Crupper.

Ministers are, it is. said, anxious to induce his Majesty to
consent to an immediate dissolution of Parliament. The re-
actionimmediate
)1. )
which IS taking place ',twin:. opinion, and the rearts
which have reached them from all quarters, of the state of the
Conservative registry all over the country for the ensuing year,
ahas,.,,ppalled them. They would fain take advantage of the
g)
•tation they have contrived to excite on the subject or peer-
afze reform, and make that supply the watch-word with which
Parliamentary reform, supplied them cti a former occasion. The
great Conservative meetings in Lancashire, Kent, Bucks,
Essex, and Suff,ilk, and the result of nearly all the recent elec-
tions :rave struck them with consternation and dismay. Let
the dissolution take place when it may, they will gain no influ-
ence by the change. If they await the result of next year's
registration they will cut a still snore sorry figure.—Surrey
Standanl.

According to Mr. O'Connell, the Whigs have now no hope
but in throwing themselves into the arms of the Hadicals; an
act of desperation which we should not be at all suprised to see
them adopt. In fact, by moderate men of all parties, not eveu
excluding their own, the poor Whigs are universally scouted
and disclaimed; and they appear, therefore, to have noithe
alter-
native left but to give up the contest altogether, or f
alliance which their dictator points out to them. He,
it is true,
sweetens the draught and gilds the pill, by telling them it.. will
"popularize'' their Administration. But what a precious
species of popularity must that be which discards_
the sense and
property of a country, for an alliance with Popery in Ireland
and noisy sedition at home. As a forlorn hope the Whigs may
attempt it; but forlorn hopes generally end in the sacrifice of
those who resort to them.

FUNERAL OF TilE LATE TiioMAS FOS;TEit; fitil4.

t •
• o.n. Wednesday morning the melancholy duty ,of interring t.i
mortal remains of the late Thomas Foster, Esq., brought over
from Calais, by Mr. Lloyd, was completed. In.a late publica-
tion,- we noticed the :leaden death of this respected, and dis-
tinguished gentleman ;
.an occurence :Which cast • gIPVtli on the
inhabitants of this town, and which has by all partieS been re-
gretted. As was anticipatetl, great numbers pt. the anhabitanta
expressed a wish to pay a last tribute of respect to his Memory,
by attending the funeral, or sending their carriages ;ibut it was
intimated to them that the relatives of Mr. Foster were .anxiotis
to carry out his last expressed wish, " let rue .- be buried quietly
in Walton Church ward,'' and that there should be as little dis-
play aS possible. fn furtherance of.this wish, Messrs. Edward
Haworth, and Co., of Bold-street, the undertakvis, hail instruc-
,
tions that the funeral should be as simple, -and:.unostentatious,
as it could be made. In consequence, the futieril . procession,
which, left .Woolton about half-past, • nine o'clock, vinsiste4
merely,.of the hearse, which was drawn by four horsesoming
to the weight of the leaden coffin, and.three mourning cotich4s,
filled.by. the deceased's near relations, and followed by his mo-
ther's private carriage.
On the mournful: party arriving at Walton Church„, they
were met by a large concourse of persons; amounting to about
400, many of whom were the leading gentry, clergy, and mer-
chants of Liverpool, whose attendance prootted by respect for
his private and public virtues was infinitely more impressive
and must have been more Soothing to the feelings of the friends
and relatives of the deceased than could bave been the most
ostentatious.. parade of the ..trappings ef...Woe. Aniongst the
numerous mourners were nearly all the members of the old cot-
poration,, a great number of the legal professiOn of Liverpool,
as well As other gentlemen or the town., We observed :
James Aspinall, Esq., ( the. late vtayor,) Nicholas Robinson,
Esq., Sir llamas Braneker, Rev. Rector Campbell, Rev. J..
B. Monk, Lieur.-Colonel St. George, John Deane Case, Esq.,
Rev. Thomas Bold, Rev. T. G. Leigh, Rev. Thomas Halton,.
John Shaw Leigh, Esq., Ambrose Lace, Esq., T. Carson,
Esq., Thomas Tobin, Esq., N. D. Bold, Esq., T. 0. Bold,
Esq., C. S. Parker, Esq., H. S. Sandbach, Esq., T. B. Hors-
fall, Esq., Wm. Gregson, Esq., Chas. Lawrence, Esq.,Mfr.
Daniel Mason, Mr. Richard Dawson, J. A Tinne,, ,Esq.,
Samuel Turner,. Esq., H. FL Statham, Esq., Mr. Chas: Loweo
Mr. C. FalCon, •Mr. R. IL Frank, Mr. Jobe Askew, John
Stewart, Esq':,.Mr. John Sudlow, Mr. John Weightman,
p. Bushby, Esq., Raymond W. Houghton; Esq., Peter Wright,
Esq., Mr. Thos. Kaye, Mr. John Pennington, Mr. Robert.
Clay, Mr. John Hand, Mr. Amos, M. Henry Moss, Mr. John.
Sandars, &c. &c.
The chief mourners were Messrs. John, William, James, and
Richard Foster, the brothers of the-deceased; his brothers-in-
law, Messrs. Halton and Lloyd, and, the brother-in-law of Mrs.
Foster. 'rhe pall-bearers were Me. Foster's nephews, the Rev.
Mr. Hull, Mr. Troutbeck, and Mr. `Brawn.
On reaching the gates of the chilrehxard the spectators
formed an avenue to the church «loor, threilgh,which the mourn-.
ful assemblage passed and entered the church, Mr. Clarke, the
organist, playing a solemn dirge. The funeral service was then
read in the most solemn and impressive manner by the Rev.
Jonathan Brooks, the senior rector of Liverpool; alter which,.
amid the lamentations <nd .heartfelt sorrow of his bereaved re-
latives and friends, the remains of our late distinguished towns-
were committed to the tomb. We do not doubt that had
not the public dutieS of the present Mayor required his attend-
ance at a council Meeting, sitting at the time, but he would have
done honour. to his feelings as a gentieman,:anda .puhfie Alm,
by attending the. funeral, to show his respect for the worth and
mernory of the late Town7.elerk,

TO THE EDITOR OF TIM LIVERPOOL STANDARD.
• Sth,-1 read with iptich pleasure in your paper uf 'ruesday,
the admirable description of popery, as a novelly, contrasted
with genuine christianity, received under the name of protes-.
tautisin ; and I beg to inform you and your numerous readers
that the passage is an extract from the Rev. Li ugh M`Neile's
sermon on the. character of the church,pf 4time, which he has,
thrown down as the `• first blow" of the cOnfroversv with Mr.
Maguire.—l am, &C., SP ECTATO R.

LIVERPOOL TEACHERS' SOCIETY.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL ,01.4.i.rD.1RD.

•
SIR,—As the,secretary of the Liverpool leachers' Book Sn-,.
ciety I feel it my Outy,to rebut the erroneous statements con.)
cerning it, which appeared in your paper of yesterday, and I du
so from a oelief that you have been misled by exparte state-
ments.

In the first place it is stated that that society is composed ex-
clusively of dissenters,—this is not correct, for, un looking over-
the list of its members, I find that the majority are also mew-.
bers of the establishment. In the Fecund place, it is stated that.
the society, whose interests you advocate, is honoured with the,
patronage of our worthy rectors,—this, also, must be incorrect,.
fur I hold a letter from one of them in which he expressly avows
his determination not to interfere with it, either directly or in-
directly.
Now, sir, your informant must have been aware that his state—
ments to you were untrue, and as they may (if uncontradicted)
operate to the prejudice of the reverend gentleman above al-
luded to, I considered it my.duty to trouble you with this ex
planation, in order that you might have, an opportunity of re-
tracting thetn.—l ant, &c., .JAMES STAPLES.
3, Spriuy•street, 21st September, 1836.

TO THE EDITOR OP THE LIVERPOOL. STANDARD.
Sia,—A parigraph, from n correspondent, relative to the., 1 Liverpool Te,reher's Society appeitared in the Mail of Satur-
day last. Perhaps you will allow a person w.no belonged to it
for some time to•say a few words on the subject.
The society, in its origin, was intended to embrace the mas-:
ters of all the free schools in Liverpool; but in the outset it was
discovered that the society (which was merely a reading one).
was conducted in such a manner that very many respectable
teachers of church schools objected ,most decidedly to join it..
The consequence was, that these masters of Church schools who
had connected themselves with it found them Selves in a minority.
Several works were introduced into the society of a nature which
had no reference !o education; indeed it was never contem-
plated that such book Should be purchased with money devoted
to educational purposes alone. I might mention Hewitt'a
' " History of I'riestcraft," " Pelham," and some other of But-
wer's novels, together with periodicals avowdly advocating
Socinian principles !
At length it was determined, by a few individuals, to
.en-
deavour to torn' a society, on the principles of the Established'
Church, and in which, of course, all the masters of the Church.
Schools in Liverpool could conscientiously unite. This this
been accomplished, and a society has been instituted, under •
the patronage of the Rev. the Rectors, and the Church Of
England School Society. .
I could say much more with regard to the observations of the
correspondent of the Mail, Gut I content myself with asserting,
that no " plans of tuition," have been communicated at the.
meeting, and that no " theories on education," have been dis-,
cussed, and further, that the experiment of bringing together.
the teachers of different schools, by means of such a society,
has totally failed.—l am, sir, yours, &c.

vERITAs.
P.S.—I may as well mention, that the mastets of only 'even.
Church Schools were connected with the former society
whereas, there are upwards of twenty schools attached to the
Established Church in Liverpool.
LWe beg to refer our readers to an advertisement which alt•
pears in another column.—En. STAMM UD.I

In further illustration of this subject, we append tlie follow-
ing note from a correspondent :---
"The Secretary of the Liverpool Teachers' Eook Society,'
having heard, that for reasons whidi have alreadiappeared iu
the public papers, the Church Schoolmasters were about to in-
stitute another Reading Society, he immediateky wrote to Mr.
Campbell, requesting him to use his influence, putting it.
down. The rev. gentleman refused to do su, by stating that he
would not interfere either directly or indirectly. •
The Church Schoolmasters' Reading Society has,.;eceived;
the patronage and support of the Church of England Schou!:
Committee, of which the Rev. Rectors aru members; hence the
patronage of the Rectors of Liverpool. B."