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Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1853-09-13 00:00:00

mendation on resolutions of the magistrates

meuts consequent on the resignation of Mr. Lowndes.
2.—Recommendation to purchase from Mr. Swarbrick
the leasehold interest in a house in Hurst-street, for the
sum of £5OO.

a—Recommendation of the following promotions and
alterations of duties of officers and clerks in the Tow].
Dues-office, consequent upon the dismissal of Mr
M`lcaugliten, viz.:—Mr. Brade, inward cashi(

at the

salary of £250, being the salary now recE
Mr. Craven, heretofore inward bookkeeper
annum, to be inward computer, at £125, the;

yed by hir,
at

100 per

allowed ; Mr. Moore, heretofore inward

per annum, to be inward bookkeeper, at £lOO per annum
the salary hitherto allowed ; Mr. Burgess, heretofore
ward computer, at £125 per annum, to be outward cashier
in the room of Mr. M`Naughten, at the salary of £2OO per
annum ; Mr. Fair, heretofore outward bookkeeper, at £lOO
per annum, to be outward computer, at £125, the salary
hitherto allowed; Mr. Kaye, heretofore outward com-
puter, to be outward bookkeeper, at the salary of £125,
heretofore received by him ; Mr. John Surr, audit clerk,
at the salary of £lOO, to be inward auditor, in the room of
Mr. Moore, receiving in addition the salary of £5O, here-
tofore ' paid to Mr. Moore. ReeoMmendation that the
salaries of Mr. Bezar and Mr. Marrow, the general auditors,
be respectively increased from £5O to £76 per annum.

4.—Recommendation to appoint Thoma's Poole, mes-
senger in the Town-hall, to be a collector of town fines,
in the room of Thomas Boothby, deceased, at the same
salary. of £llO per annum.
s.—Recommendation to purchase prom John Shaw
Leigh, Esq., 18,700 square yards of land, adjoining the
Botanic Garden.
6.—Recommendation to increase the salary of Mr.
Archibald Tweedie, chief clerk to the treasurer, from £2OO
to £3OO per annum. _ _

Mr, HORNBY moved the adoption of the proceedings,
and said he thought it would be wise for the Council to
coincide with the recommendation of the committee, and
sanction the proposal of the magistrates. He moved a
resolution to this effect, and which embraced also the re-
duction of the passing fees.

Mr. BRADLEY moved that the matter be again referred
to the Finance Committee, and, on the vote being taken,
the amendment was lost by 33 to 14. The purchase from
Mr. Svvarbrick was sanctioned by the Council. It was
understood that all the recommendations, except those
relating to Messrs. Brade and Kaye, were to stand over
for a month, according to standing orders. Ultimately,
after some discussion, the recommendations were confirmed.
Mr. Hounric explained that the deputation had come
to an arrangement with the Woods and Forests, whereby
the foreshore at Birkenhead would be secured to the
Council indisputably, on payment of £4OOO. The Fmance
Committee's general proceedings were then confirmd, as
were those:also of the Watch Committee.
TEMPERANCE PROCESSION.—The Maros read a
letter from the Secretary of State, approving the conduct
which his worship and his brother magistrates had taken
in reference to the temperance procession.
Door PROCEEDINGS.—The Dock Committee proceed-
ings were confirmed, the Chairman 'congratulating the
COuntil on the facilities which would 'be afforded by the
new Customs Bill in checking frauds. He explained that
the baggage warehouse could not be erected until the
position of the new Landing-stage, for sea-going steamers,
Vas decided upon.—The 3.favos said that Sir William
Mitt was preparing plans for the stage, which would be
'ready shortly.

TOWN IMPROVEMENTS.---The Improvement Committee
recorded recommendations to apply to Parliament for
powers to widen Hatton-garden ; to make a new street
from North John-street to the front of St. George's-hall,
and to make the high bevel alteration of Shaw's-brow,
shown by the plan proposed by the surveyor, and referred
to in the report of the Improvement Committee of the
30th September, 1852. In consideration, however, of the
urgent recommendation from the committee appointed at
the recent town's mating to postpone the consideration of
the new street, it was agreed to reconsideethe improve-
ment question at a special meeting in a fortnight. It was
elicited that the cost of the proposed new street would
be £235,700. The proceedings of the Markets, Education,
Gaol and House of Correction, and Town:hall Establish-
ment Committees were then confirmed.
HEALTH COMMITTEE': ME. LANGSDAIE AND MB.
Fsurirrionan.--Tire proceedings of the Health Committee
comprised : 1. Recommendation to increase the salary of
Mr. James Neviiands, Borough Engineer, from £7OO to
£l,OOO per annum; and a subs-equireat resolution recom-
mending such 'increase to be from £7OO to £BOO per an-
num. 2. Recommendation, to increase 'the salary of Mr.
C. Davies, Assistant Local Surveyor, from £3OO to £350.
The resolution if confidence in Mr. Langsdale also formed
a portion of the proceedings.
The proceedings having been read,

Mr. Dovra,- deputy-charman of if;e 'Health Committee,
said, when Name into this room Iwas prepared to ex-
pect, on the part of several gentlemen who have unfortu-
nately mixed themselves up with events of the last
Council, certain -concessions ; but T find that no proceed-
ings of the ',kind have taken place, and I am almost
tempted to go somewhat out of mrway, because I am
commissionecrby a gentleman, who is now absent (allud-
ing to Mr. LaNgsdale), owing to family afflictions.
prepared to-make an admission and a , concession, though
that gentleman, perhaps, in order, was not the first to
offend, be is not unwilling to be the first to apologise.

The .MA:ron. -I have-not the slightest hesitation in
saying that the whole subject was to me a matter of the
deepest regret, and I take some blame to myself—and I
do so frankly and openly—that I did not, as the chairman
of this couneil, • require an apology from both the gentle-
men, for both used language which I-eunsidcred was not
justifiable. fI was, however, not willing to interrupt
the full mid fair freedom of debate, nor do I think that
a chairman lias a right to anticipate what gentlemen
may be .goingLio say, although I did feel that it was very
likely something of a personal nature would have oc-
curred. I -think, as Mr. Dover is nos' prepared, on the
part of Mr-Langsdale, t-- ;the

o wi, ~.,raw an expression mash
ase of by Mr. Langsdale, which was notSjustified, whether
called f0r0r,324t, by the words which fell from Mr. Fer-
nihough, •-is not necessary for me to give an opinion;
but I am satisfied of this, from what.has occurred be-
tween Mr. Fernihough and myself, tha if Mr. Langs-
dale is impart(' to withdraw that expression, I am sure
Mr. Fernihough, in a spirit. of generosity, and for the
purpose of rblieving this Council and myself from an un-
pleasant situation, and one which causes me very deep
regret,—l am sure Mr. Fernihough will, in the same
spirit, respond and express likewise his regret that any-
thing of the sort-should, unwittingly, and in the heat of
argument, have-taken place.
A 30-

g pause ensued.—Mr. Ferniliong4whe sat at the
foot of the long table, neither rose nor spoke.
The
_Mirou.—lf not, then we must go on with the

proceeding

Mr. DOVER then, proposed that the salary ,of Mr. New
lands be increased;'from £7OO to £BOO per•unnum. Mr

ed, as an amendment, that the salary be
increased hy £3OO, making it £l,OOO a-yealb. After a good
deal of discussion, the amendment was carriedrby 24 to 20
The increase of Ilr..Davies's salary was sanctioned with
out opposition.

HENDERSON It

_ GSDALE DISPUTE.
Mr. Dor= observed that he never felt himlklf placed
in a more difficult situation. I almost wish (he,eaid) that
I could use an 'influence which I do not possess over a
gentleman near: me. Some people will say, I dare say,
that I have gone rather too far already, and somewhat
compromised the dignitynnd character of a gentleman we
all know and respect, as vof.ll as that of the Health .Com-
mittee. lam Almost inclined to sit down again, to give
the gentleman an • opportunity—[The speaker here sat
down. Mr. Feraihough-dictnot rise.]
The Mayor,.—Mr,Dover, Toil had better proceed.
Mr. DovEu.---=Then I: believe I have a very short Ahttv

to perform, and that is to move the confirmation of •th
proceedings of the Health Committee.

The Mi You.—Mr. Dover:will you permit me, and Mr.
Fernihough, you allow meio ask you to get up, ,oull
end this most painful.husiness;ofter what has fallen fro .m
Mr. Dover ? I thitik if Mr. Dover would give the intima-
tion which he has given to me in private, that he was
prepared to move that the resolution be removed from the

tion ; and a meda. .uree chat ~ting mac.,
books, Mr. Fernihough's difficulty would be likewise re- Z. Sillar, Rainford, near St. Helens, machine for sowit:
s.noved, and this most painful subject brought to an end.
:carrot seed, medal. Mr. W. H. Peake, Liverpool, £2 ft>:
Mr. FERsitrouGg.—l rise, sir, now to relieve this :a:general collection of implements. Messrs. Kealy and
Council from the difficulty under -which they seem to C 0,.., London, for a new patent turnip cutter and root
labour, and to ask them to allow thatteensure upon myself sneer, medal. Mr. R. Cogan, London, £2 for a general eel-
to:remain on the books. lectioss. Messrs. R. Forshaw and Co., Liverpool, for Kase's
Mr. HORNBY.—It does appear to -mae that the Council patent fire engine and liquid manure spreader, medal;

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regularity of their-proceeilixigs require. Ti 'appear.: to me
tube the duty of the Council. to ascertain that no resolu-
tions are placed upon the books of any of its committees
whichii,oierfere in any way withits.ewll..functions. I am
quite Sure that, in recording that resolution, the Health
Committee did not intend thus to infringe ; and I am
equally certain, if we. allow the resolution to remain on
the books, we shall sanction the right to canvass the pro-
.c.?edings of the Council, and to enter into the discussion
pof questions of order which can only with propriety be de-
tided by ourselves. If we allow. the Health 'Committee
thus to intsrfeite with our functions, we shall'be establish-
ing a very injurious precedent, and for that reason, with-
out going into the question of the recent quarrel, I move
that the resolution of the Health Committee lie not
confirmed.
Mr. BANNER seconded the motion.
Tut; MAron.—When I saw that resolution of the .com-
mittee, it was clear to my mind that the Health Committee
were unquestionably departing from the usual course. It
is not usual for any committee to refer to what has taken
place in the Council, and this resolution would amount to
nothing, without it was (confirmed by the Council. I
think the mistake has been here. If the gentlemen form-
ing the Health Committee, fn their individual capacity,
had expressed their opinion of Mr. Alderman Langsdale's
character, and had chosen to send it to him, it would have
been perfectly right ; but I think it would be introducing
a precedent -extremely dangerous for any committee to
put resolutions upon their proceedings which came after-
wards to be discussed by the Council. I was, therefore,
exceedingly desirous for the Health Committee to have
expunged that resolution, and I now suggsst, and ask the
members of the Health Committee to consent to its with-
drawal from their proceedings, and thus remove what I
believe to be the bar to Mr. Fernihough making that apo-
logy which he authorised me to say he would make if it
was removed.
After a discussion, in which Mr. Beckwith, Mr. Bighorn,
Mr. Holt, Mr..Picton, and Mr. Gladstone took part,
The MAYOR took the votes on the motion of Mr.
Hornby, that the proceedings of the committee be con-
firmed, with the exception of the resolution in regard to
the chairman. The motion was carried by 25 to 13.
Mr. FERNIIIOUGII then rose.—l congratulate this
Council (he said) upon the firmness they have shown in
preventing a precedent being established, that I believe
would be fraught with the most serious injury to the _
future conduct and character of the Council. That I haie
been the instrument of that firmness being maintained,,is
to me one of the most painful circumstances that ever
occurred in my life; and had this censure been a matter

Tllv4rnp Ceixias.—The best bull of any short-horned
breed, above two and under four years old, Mr. R. C.
Lowndes, Club Moor, near Liverpool. The best bull of
any short-horned breed, above one and under two years
old, £10.; -and for the second best bull of any short-horned
breed, above one and under two years old, £5, Mr. R. C.
Lowndes. To the tenant-farmer for the best bull of any
breed, above two and under three years old, Mr. T.
Forrest, Spurstow Hall; near Tarporley. To the tenant
farmer for the best bull of any breed, above one and under
two years old, .Mr. J. Dickinson, Upholland, near Wigan.
to To
serveth e l atnhde
1 ezietprythgerabtiess,t
tbhuellsooefieantyy,s breed,sils,er
cowsctrdw-ohfohsilsialitenka
tho Landlord who shall keep the best
commended. To
medal, the Earl of Derby, Knowsley, near Prescot, highly
bull of any breed, to serve the cows in a public ley for
so served from the 12th of May,
pcarettcledie,
ng and chic
.th ~c-,astbe society's silver medal, Mr. G.
Greenall, M.P., Walton Hall, near Warrington. The beat
cow or heifer of any breed, in-milk or in-calf—lst, Mr. H.
Ambler, Watkinson Hall. Halifax; 2d, Mr. J. W. Patten,
'e shiol 11
M.P., Bank Hall, Warrington. The best two-year old
heifer of any breed, Mr. John Forrest, Stretton, Warring-
ton, a heifer of the pure short-horned breed. -To the
tenant farmer for the best cow for dairy purposes, in-milk
or in-calf-Ist, Mr. John Forrest, Stretton, Warrington :
24, Mr. James Gorton, Seedley, near Manchester. To the
tenant farmer for the best pair of two-year-old heifers of
any breed, Mr. E. J. Pemberton. To the tenant farmer
for the best pair of two-year-old heifers of any breed-Ist.
Mr. T. Forrest, Spurstow Hall, near Tarporley ' • Mr. W.
T. Pownall, Rostherne, near Altrineham. For the cow
or heifer showing the most symmetry, fat, and weight-
-Ist, Mr. G. Greenall, M.P. ; 2d, Mr. George Haworth,
Lower Darwen, near Blackburn. To the farmer, not
being a cattle-dealer, who shall show the best lot of nilch
cows, not less than six in number, Mr. J. Gorton.

HORSES.-- Stallion for agriculturiil purposes, Mr. Geo. Wil-
son, Westmoreland-street, Liverpool.; for dray purposes,
3lr. T. H. Harbridge, Mersey-street, Liverpool ; for road pur-
poses, Mr. T. Massey, Barrington, near Northwieb. To
the landlord who shall keep the best stallion for agricul-
tural purposes, to serve the mares of his tenantry gratis,
the society's -silver medal, the Earl of Derby, Knowsley.
Brood mare, for agricultural purposes, Mr. R. C. Lowndes,
Club-moor, Liverpool ; for roadsters or coaching, - Mr. S.
Allen, Millington, near Altrincham). Three-year-old geld-
ing or filly for agricultural purposes, Mr. J. Birch, Sefton,
near Liverpool ; two-year-old gelding or filly for agricul-
tural purposes, Mr. R, Janion, sen., Rocksavage, Runcorn ;
one-year-old gelding or filly for agricultural purposes, Mr.
rJ. Longton, Wooltonewill, near Liverpool. Thee-yea-