The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1849-05-08 00:00:00

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.

of such a declaration, having done so, Mr. C. had not be-
haved well by his constituents.
Mr. H. HORNBY rose to a point of order. He objected
to Mr. Cardwell's parliamentary votes being canvassed at
such a meeting. If he understood the object of the meet-
ing rightly, it wss to consider a bill now before Parlia-
ment. He considered any allusion to Mr. Cardwell to be
I out of order.

The MAYOR thought Mr. Hohne's object was to show
that their parliamentary representatives were not the true
exponents of the opinions of the Liverpool public, and
that he (Mr. H.) wished to remove the impression that
the people of Liverpool were in favour of the navigation
laws. If so, he (the Mayor) considered that Mr. Holme
was quite in order in the remarks he had made.
Mr. HORNBY urged that if Mr. Holme had given notice
that he intended to impugn the conduct of the members
for the borough of Liverpool, some one might have been
present prepared with an answer to any charges he had
to make.

Mr. TYRER observed, that Mr. Cardwell had stated to
him that the reason why he would not give a pledge was,
that a member who gave pledges was not thought any-
thing of in the House of Commons.
Mr. HOLME continued : If Mr. tlornby would have al-
lowed him to proceed, he would have proved the charge
he had made against Mr. Cardwell ; and he now stated,
that the first opportunity he had ha would make the same
charge before Mr. Cardwell himself on the public hust-
ings. He repeated, that Sir James Graham had made an
untrue statement in the House of Commons respecting
the representatives of Liverpool and their constituents.
Mr. PARKER rose to a point of order. Mr. Holme had
no right to attack private character.
Mr. HOLME.—I should be sorry to do so. Mr. Parker.
Mr. Cardwell had stated to him that he was opposed to a
repeal of the navigation laws, and he would only consent
to the repeal of that portion of them which was injurious
to the country. (Mr. Holme here read from a document
in his possession, purporting to be an extract from a state-
ment which Mr. Cardwell had maae to him on the sub-
ject, the effect of which was as stated above by Mr. H.)
He was about to conclude with a question to the Mayor,
who would, of course, please himself whether he would
answer it or not. He (the Mayor) was the person who
seconded Mr. Cardwell's nomination at the last election.
Now he (Mr. H.) would ask his worship, if he could have
foreseen that Mr. Cardwell would have voted for a repeal
of the navigation laws, would he have so readily seconded
that gentleman's nomination ? Mr. H. then concluded
by saying that they looked to the House of Peers ' • and
Englishmen ought to be thankful for i that they had such
a house, for the peers were the real protectors of their
rights, and he hoped Englishmen would ever think so.
He hoped that as the minister of England had with
sacrilegious hand attacked our navigation laws, he would
be sent to the right about for bringing forward a measure
in parliament which was detrimental to the best interests
of the country. He now begged leave to. move the fol-
lowing resolution :
That the following petition be adopted, and that the Mayor
do affix the common seal to the same, and that the Mayor and
Mr. Alderman Horsfall be requested to convey the petition to
the Right Hon. the Earl of Harrirby, and to request his lord-
.

ship to pr—sent it to the House of Peers.
Mr. R. S. HENDERSCN rose to second the resolution,
but immediately gave way to _

The MAYott, who said, perhaps the meeting would
allow him to say one word. Mr. Holme had called upon
him to answer a question. He called the attention of the
council to the fact of his having followed Mr. Cardwell
during his canvass, and the whole of that time he was
under the impression that he was opposed to the repeal of
the principle of the navigation laws. The Mayor then
quoted from his own and Mr. Cardwell's speeches on the
hustings, and said he should not have supported Mr. C.
had he thought that he would vote as he had done on the
navigation laws. (Cheers.) _ _ _

Mr. R. S. HENDERSON, Chairman of the Dock Com-
mittee, seconded the resolution, and alluded to the great
increase in the tonnage of foreign shipping from this coun-
try from the year 1821 to 1847, and the comparative de-
crease of British shipping, as a proof of the injurious
effects to this country of the relaxation of the Navigation
Laws. He contended that the great increase in the
foreign tonnage might have been in British tonnage had
the law not been so altered.
Mr. HORNBY then addressed the Council, and said he
did not rise for the purpose of expressing any opinion on
the question before them. He did not wish to say a single
word either for or against the repeal of the Navigation
Laws. He rose to express his conviction, that to enter-
tain any question of a political nature in the Council was
injurious. (Hear, hear, from Mr. Horsfall and others.)
He agreed that there was nothing unusual in discussing
questions of this nature at a Council meeting, and he ad-
mitted that the town councils of Manchester, Leeds, and
other places, were in the habit of introducing such ques-
tions for discussion. He also agreed that, formerly, this
Council was in the habit of discussing such questions, and
that he had taken part in these discussions ; but it was
found that they had the effect of materially interfering
with the regular duties of the Council, and that discord
was necessarily introduced amongst the members. It
was, therefore, deemed advisable that such discussion
should be given up; and now some years ago, a resolu-
tion to that effect was come to, and, until the present
time, had been strictly acted upon. He (Mr. Hornby)
much regretted that the discuesion of such subjects had
been again introduced. He asked the Council whether
it was not reasonable to suppose that the present meeting
would be referred to as a precedent ? (Hear, hear.) If
they discussed the Navigation Laws, why should they not
be asked also to discuss the question of a revival of the
corn laws ? (Hear, hear.) He admitted that the ques-
tion was one of great national importance; but still it was
of little importance when compared with the agricultural
interests of the country. (Hear, hear.) If they allowed
the question before the meeting to be discussed, they
could not pretend to say to what extent their successors
might go in the discussion of questions of a similar nature.
He should move as an amendment to the resolution which
had been proposed, and he hoped the Mayor would allow
it to be put at once, " That inasmuch as it is inexpedient
that this Council should discuss questions of a political
nature, the discussion of this question be adjourned to
this day six morths." He moved the amendment in
those terms merely for the sake of form, as was done un-
der similar circumstances in the House of Commons.
Mr. PARKER seconded the amendment.
The MAYOR said Mr. Hornby had asked him to put the
amendment at once, but he thought he could not do so
in its present form.
Mr. HOLME said he must object to the nature of Mr.
Hornby's amendment, as a dangerous precedent.
At the suggestion of the Mayor, the amendment was
altered, and the vote was taken on the simple question,
" that the Council now adjourn," which was lost by a
majority of 25 to 15. -
For the adjournment :—Councillors Langsdale, Wal-
thew, Preston, Hodson Holt, Hornby, Bell, Harbord,
Gardner, Johnson, Parker, Beckwith, Hindley, Benn, and
Alderman John Holmes. _

Against the adjournment :—Councillors James Holme,
Woodruff, Thomson, Morris, Briscoe, Tyrer, Tinne, Wm-
mer, Robinson, Wagstaff, S. Holme, Tobin, Booker,
Kaye, Neill, Bennett. Jones, Mann. and Fisher ; Alder-
men Swainson, Horsfall, Henderson, Wood, klolyneux,
and the Mayor. _ _ .

The discussion on Mr. Holme's resolution was then
proceeded with.
Mr. MANN supported the resolution in an eloquent and
argumentative speech.
Mr. PARKER opposed the resolution. and contended
that the artisans of Liverpool could not be worse off than
they were, which shewed that the navigation laws had
done little for them. Mr. Holme had brought forward
the case of the Liverpool artizans, as a scape goat. As to
Mr. Cardwell, Mr. Holme was the last man in the Coun-
cil to charge any one with inconsistency. He could prove
Mr. Holme to have been more inconsistent than ever Mr.
Cardwell had been. (Laughter.)
Mr. HOLME—I challenge Mr. Parker to prove any
single instance.
Mr. HARBORD would say nothing on this question
now, but he gave the Council notice that, after what bad
taken place, he should endeavour to get a requisition laid
betore the Mayor, in order that the Council might discuss
the question of direct taxation. (A laugh.)
Mr. Alderman HORSFALL supported tl'e resolution as
proposed by Mr. Holine. Mr. Horsfall condemned the
speech of Sir James Graham, on the subject, in the House
of Commons, stating that it was full of fallacies. and con-
cluded by observing that as the bill was fraught with
great injury to England and to the utter ruin of our mari-
time power, he would oppose it in every way he cold.

. - .. and
Some further discussion took place, the resolution,
as proposed by Mr. Holme, was then put and carried
without a division, and the following petition was after-
wards read and agreed to :

To THE RIGHT HON. THE LORDS SPIRITUAL AND TEMPO-
RAL OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND
IRELAND IN PARLIAMENT ASSEMBLED.
The humble Petition of the Mayor, Aldermen, and Bur-
gesses of Liverpool in Council assembled.
That your petitioners are informed that a bill is now before

your right honourable house to amend the laws in force for the
encouragement of British shipping.
That your petitioners consider such bill to be uncalled for by
any expression of public opinion, and eminently and decidedly
'alculated to impair the sources of the national defences, and
to he destructive of the interests of your petitioners and of the
people of this country generally.
Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that the said bill may
not pass into a law.

CLIMBING BOYS

Australia
We published lately a description of the Vulcan machine Bahia
for sweeping chimn-ls. A copy of the paper containing 13,aormbit)tadyoes
the report was forwarded to Lord Ashley, who has sent the B. Ayres
following important letter to the solicitor to the company Calcutta
for carrying out the benevolent designs contemplated by Charleston
the parties who are desirous to further the use of that China
very useful invention. His lordship is always foremost Demerara
in in every good work, and this is a case where his disinte-
Jarn'aica::
rested efforts can be employed with the best results to Guavra
not a few of our suffering fellow-creatures

John Gillholy was fined in the penalty of £2OO for
having a still working in 34, Seacombe-street, Everton.
On Wednesday, Eliza Rigby was fined £5, or two
months' imprisonment, for stabbing Fanny Dawson in
the arm with a knife.

SMUGGLING.—Two foreign sailors were charged, on
Friday, with smuggling. Mr. Williams, tide-surveyor,
stated that, from information he received, he went on
board the " Sarah," lately arrived from Naples, and on
searching found 23 lbs. tobacco, 18 lbs. cigars, and
51- gallons brandy, cencealed, and belonging to the pri-
soners. Mr. Rushton fined them each £lOO.
CHARGE OF SCUTTLING A VESSEL.—On Wednesday,
John Owens, a seaman, was brought up on a charge of
attempting to scuttle the barque Mary Ann Hall,by
boring holes in her bottom with an augur. The alleged
offence took place at Hull. A large hole had been bored
with an augur in the fore part of the vessel, underneath
some coals, and the water was making its way through
with great rapidity. An attempt had been made to bore
a second hole, but it did not go quite throuzh the tim-
bers. All the crew were taken before the consul at
Mobile, and, with the exception of the prisoner, succeeded
in clearing themselves. The case was remanded.
FORGERY OF GOVERNMENT STAMPS.—On Friday the
police of Birkenhead, in consequence of information which
they had received, proceeded to the house of a person re-
siding at Tranmere, and tnstituted a search. Several dies
for impressing government receipt stamps, of various
amounts, a variety of slips of paper bearing an impression
of the dies, and a great number of articles used in the
process of the forgeries, were discovered, and carried away
by the police. The occupant of the house, who is a paper
ruler, and who a short time ago resided in Chester-street,
Birkenhead, was taken into custody. His name is Thomp..
son. On Saturday a young man. named Morgan, stepson
to Thompson, and in the employ of Mr. Mawdsley, of
Castle-street, was brought up before Mr. Rushton,
charged with forging receipt stamps. In Morgari's bed-
room was found a false bill stamp, with a quantity of paper
of the same description as that used by Mr. Mavvd,ley for
his bill and receipt stamps. The die was produced in
court, and was very perfect. It was attached to a hinge,
so constructed that an impression could be taken off with
the greatest facility. It was stated that bill stamps were
found for Bs. 6d. and 12s. 6d. The prisoner was remanded.
Of course, there is not the slightest imputation on Mr.
Mawdslev.

INTERESTING TO LOVERS OF POLONIES. .0n Tues-
day, Mr. Jones, one of the officers of St. Martin's Market,
appeared to request a summons against a German
sausage-maker. He stated that information had been
conveyed to the market officers to the effect that a person
in Dryden-street, who manufactures what are known as
polonies, or German sausages, was using horse-flesh in
the manufacture. It appeared that the officers had traced
the removal of horse-flesh from two knackers' yards, in
Vauxhall-road and Kirkdale, to a house in Dryden-street,
adjoining the manufactory, whence it was transferred in
small quantities as required for the sausage-machine.
The quantity consumed was about two

or three hundred
weight a week. The parts used are the shoulders of
horses, at the cost to the manufacturer of a farthing a
pound. The manufactory appeared to be one of consi-
derable trade, supplying, according to Air. Jones's state-
ment, no less than thirty shops in this and neighbouring
towns. The trade is not confined to this manufactory
alone, another in the line using something like five hun-
dred weight a week. The case appeared to be beyond the
jurisdiction of the magistrates, as the law only permitted
interference where food which could be declared unfit for
human consumption was offered for sale, so that horse-
flesh and sausages are legally convertible terms, and full
of comfort to the lovers of those savory morsels.

A COMEDIAN IN TROUBLE.—A man of this profession,
named William Henry Johnson, was charged, on Tues-
day, with begging from Joseph Francis, in Oldhall-street,
on Monday. According to the prosecutor's statement,
the prisoner asked him for money, which was
refused, when the actor left him and stole an orange from
an old woman's basket, after which he returned, and pre-
ferred his claim for relief so imperiously that he had to be
given into custody. The prisoner, who wore a soldier's
coat and a white blouse, being called upon for his defence,
said, " lam a comedian, and gets my living by giving
recitations in public-houses. I prefers anything before
stealing." Mr. Rushton—" But what do you say to
begging ?" Prisoner—" I might have given a recitation
in a public-house, and one and another gave me some-
thing to drink, which might have capsized me. I might
have given a recitation, and asked him for a copper."
Mr. Rushton—" You walked to the old orange woman
and stole her oranges." Prisoner—" I deny thieving any
oranges, sir." Mr. Rushton—" You must go to gaol for
twenty-one days, and the money found upon you must be
appropriated to your maintenance." The prisoner—
" Very well ; I'll be glad to have a drop of porter, and a
double allowance."

IMPORTANT DISCOVERY FOR THE EXTINC-
TION OF FIRE IN COAL MINES. •

The following successful result of an experiment made
to put out a fire in a coal mine is so important, that a
statement of the particulars will be interesting to our
readers :—On Monday morning, the 2nd ult., a coal mine
at Astley was discovered to be on fire, and had spread to
such an alarming extent as to prevent all access by the

usual shafts. After ineffectual attempts to extinguish
the fast-spreading conflagration, Mr. Goldsworthy Gur-
ney went (loam, and, after investigating the conditions,
proposed to fill the mine with carbonic acid, azote, or
some other extinguishing and incombustible gas. He
said nitrogen or azote might be obtained fiom the winds
of heaven, and carbonic acid from the coats lying waste
about the pit, assisted by a little charcoal and lime : air
would be deprived of its oxygen by being passed through

burning charcoal, coke, andsmall coal, acid the azote Wet
free. In short, the product of this combustion would be
the choke or black damp known in mines.
We immediately (says Mr. Darlington, the owner of
the mine,) built a furnace of brick-work four feet square,
at a safe distance from the downcast shaft. To the ash-
pit, in every other respect made tight, an iron cylinder
thirteen inches in diameter was connected and made to
terminate at an elbow under water in a close tank partly
filled. With the upper part of this tank, above water,
another pipe was connected and carried through the step-
ping of the downcast pit. A powerful steam jet was made
to work between the furnace and the tank, which drew
the air down through the fire, and forced it through the
water. A second jet was placed in the cylinder at the top
of the downcast shaft, and made to draw the choke damp
from the tank and force it into the pit. At the other or
upcast shaft we placed a jet in a cylinder through the stop-
ping, and made to exhaust from the shaft beneath, so as
to assist the compressing jets, and draw the choke damp
through the galleries between them. The apparatus thus
fitted, as soon as the fire had burnt up was set in action.
In order to test the effect of the choke damp we placed
some burning tow, moistened with spirits of turpentine,
into it, The flame was as instantly extinguished as if
placed in water. It was thus tested in the cylinder, as
it passed from the ashpit, before coming to the jet; also
in the tank and second cylinder with similar results. This
was conclusive evidence of the perfect formation of the
choke damp. In about two hours after the jets were set
in action fire damp disappeared from the shafts, and we
observed a slight cloudy appearance in the eseapage from
the upcast shaft. It had the sulphurous smell of choke
damp, wl'ich pervaded the air to a considerable distance.

A safety lamp was brought, and placed in the upcast
cylinder: it became instantly extinguished, as if put in
water. For this purpose the draughts were momentarily
shut off. A bright burning fire of charcoal, in a chafing
dish, was placed in the escapage at the cylinder, and was
also immediately extinguished. These facts satisfied us
that the choke damp had passed through the mine. The
period of its appearance agreed with our calculations. The
quantity of choke damp forced through the mine was
about 6000 cubic feet per minute, and this would fill the
galleries in about that time. The choke damp was allowed
to remain for several hours, at the termination of which we
were convinced that all fire, however intense, must be extin-
guished in the mine. The connexion with the furnace was
now broken, and the fresh air driven through the same jets.
In about two hours the choke damp disappeared : this was
shown by a safety lamp burning clearly in the escapage, in
the cylinder at the uncast shaft. We regarded the mine
now as perfectly safe. With several men I descended
the downcast shaft, 390 feet deep, to the funnel leading
to the workinz. We found all clear. The exhausting
jet was kept up, and drawing fresh air through the mine
all night. The next day several men went down and
passed through the workings and found all clear and safe.
Their report was particularly favourable. In no one part
of the mine could they perceive any fire. and the action of
the single jet in the upcast is described by them as passing
a current with greater speed than the furnace (which is
pronounced to be the most effectual one in the county)
had ever before done in this or any other of the mines of
which lam the proprietor. This result has occasioned
the greatest interest in our neighbourhood. Never was

an experiment more successful L-a gigantic power under
such complete controul, fighting with the elements, and,
as it were, compelling them to destroy each other. The
application of high pressure steam to the ventilation of
coal mines may effect a greater protection to life and pro-
perty ; but we regard this application as little inferior to
the coal trade, and a triumph of science equal to any of
the present day.

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