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HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MONDAY.

The sveleeted and-new tneinners for Edinburgh, Newark,
&c., took the oaths and their seats.

Mr. Vtuaugs on presenting a petition on the subject of
the corn laws, gave notice that in the course of the session he
should renew his motion on that subject.

STOCKDALE V. HANSARD.

Lord J. RUSSELL presented a petition from Messrs. Han-
sard, the parliamentary printers, stating that they had, on
the 24th and 25th instant, been served with other notices by
Mr. Howard on behalf of Stockdale, two fresh actions being
commenced against them for alleged libels printed in Parlia-
mentary documents. His lordship moved that Mr. Howard,
the attorney, be called to the bar forthwith.
Sir E. SUGDEN doubted the advantage of adopting this
premature step. It would be more advisable to learn from
Messrs. Hansard what was the nature of these actions.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought that no delay should
be allowed. The privileges of the house ought to be de-
fended, and he trusted the noble lord's motion would be
adopted..

Sir R. INGLIS moved, as an amendment, that " it is not
at present expedient to take any further steps ;" an amend-
ment which was lost by 67 to 181.
The motion of Lord J. Russell having been thus carried,
Lord TEIGNMOUTH explained expressions he had used on
a former evening. lie had spoken of the judges with, the
greatest respect, but he had held they were legally incompe-
tent to decide respecting the privileges of that house.

DEBTS OF THE QUEEN.

Lord J. RUSSELL stated, in answer to a question from Mr.
G. Palmer, that the report that her Majesty had contracted
considerable debts was totally without foundation.

ALLOWANCE TO PRINCE ALBERT,

Lord J. RtssELi having then moved the order of the day
for a committee of the whole house, to resume the considera-
tion of the £50,000 allowance to Prince Albert,
Mr. HOME moved, as an amendment on the ministerial
ntOtion, that only £21,004 shoald be granted to Prince Al-
bert. The hon. member, in the course of a somewhat long
and heavy speech on the subject, uttered some home truths
On the inexpediency of allowing to a person in Prince Albert's
position a larger sum than is enjoyed by the royal dukes of
England. He likewise furnished certain calculations, in his
own peculiar fashion, as to the number of poor families who
might be sustained on the difference between the sum pro-
posed by ministers, and the amount of income advocated by
himself. The hon. member expressed himself, moreover,
exceedingly anxious to guard the young prince from those
temptations which must beset " a young man in London,
with £50,000 a-year in his pocket." The house appeared
to regard Mr. H tune's anxiety on this latter point as an ex-
celltat joke, and laughed accordingly.
Mr. WILLIAms' of Coventry, echoed Mr. Hume's finan-
cial anxieties, and begged some dozen times, in the course of
a short speech, to know how the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer proposed "to rise the money." The elocutionary pro-
prieties exhibited by Mr. Williams tended, like the moral
scruples of Mr. Hume, to increase the merriment of the
honourable house. _

Mr. BARING made alpeech, no less stupid than Mr. Ba-
ring's speeches are wont to be ;--a speechl which, after a great
deal of mystification, threw not on the subject of Mr.
Williams's anxiety—the mode,
namely, of rising" the
money.
Mr. GOULBURN put it to the house whether, if the Queen
had been married at her accession to the throne, they would
given
have given more to her and her consort thannthe
to King William and his Queen. But Queen Victoria's
list, with this £50,000, would exceed by £10,000"the"!il
list of William and Adelaide, and the recent reduction of
]O,OOO in the salaries of the present household, coupled with
that addition of £lO,OOO, made this civil list practically better
by £20,000 than the civil list of the former reign. Therefore,
even if the necessities of a prince, united to a female sove-
reign, were equal to those of a princess united to a sovereign,
still an allowance of £20,000 less than in the last reign, would
put the present Queen and her consort in as advantageous a
situation as the late King and Queen. It was his intention
very shortly to move for a still further reduction in the sala-
ries of her Majesty's household, by which her civil list would
be made to go even further yet.
Lord ELIOT, in a few sentences, expressed his intention of
supporting Col. Sibthorp's amendment. The noble lord ex-
pressed himself most anxious' to do all that could be required
of him to minister to the comforts of the Sovereign; but he
felt that consisWntly with the discharge of his duty-ee.a re--
presentative of the people, he could not agree to the proposed
vote of £50,000,
Sir ROBERT ING:iel - is maintained that the larger grant was
that which it became House of Commons to agree to. The
grounds on which
honourable baronet rested his opinion,
are these. The
crown,
with the trliy a century ago, made a 'nog
improvident bargain
subject of the hereditary revenues House of Commons, on the
of the Monarch. Had the
crown retained its hereditary revenues, the crown would,
since the period of the bargain referred
hundred and sixteen millions of money. The crown had not,
during that time, received more thansixtiyy :six millions. The
country, then, having gained so largely the transaction,
Ought not, according to the honourable baronet, to exhibit
a niggardly disposition, on au occasion like that under' discus-
sion.
After some discussion the house divided, when the numbers
were—for the amendment 38, against it 305 ; it
was conse-
quently lost by a majority of 267.
Col. SIBTHORP next moved that a sum of £30,000 be the
annual grant. He thought the sum proposed by Government
was preposterous and unnecessary.
Lord J. RUSSELL rose to defend the ministerial grant; and
under the sense of impending, defeat, contrived to lose his
temper and his manners. He imputed broadly to the conser-
vatives who opposed the proposed grant of £50,000, a disloyal
disposition towards the Sovereign ; and stated his belief, that
but fur the occurrences in May last, no such opposition would
have been manifested.
After a word or two from Lord ELIOT in his own vindica-
tion,
Sir JAMES GRADAII rose to express his astonishmet that
a minister should insinuate what he dared not charge directly,
that the conduct of those who voted for the smaller grant
was inconsistent with the respect due to the Queen. After
refuting some of the fallacies of ministers on the subject of
the precedents, he observed, that Queen Adelaide's establish-
ment, including that of the stables, exhausted £35,000 of her
allowance, leaving only £ls,ooofor
the admission of ministers her privy purse ; but by
themselves_s the establishment of
Prince Albert would cost but 000 or £9,000, leaving for
his privy purse not less than £21,000. This allowance was
surely ample, it was liberal.
Mr. LEADER would support the smallest
as grant that could
be carried. The moral effect of such proposals this of the
ministers
government was most unfortunate. The were eco-
nomical for the purposes of the public, but est •
• ravegant for
those of the palace.
Mr. O'CONNELL rose, and, in a vein of the tenderest'loy
altv. supported the larger grant. His constituents, said,
had instructed him to do so.
Sir ROBERT PEEL said, that though he never would shrink,
from openly vindicating any of his vot.ess he should not now

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have risen but for that insinuation, se contrary to aU parlia-
mentary rule and so unworthy of Lord John Russell's situa-
tion as a minister. Suppose the motive of a base subserviency
to the crown had been imputed to the noble lord, would not
that have been most irregular and unjust ? Yet it had been
imputed to the conservatives that they were influenced by the
events of last May in the opinions they expressed to-night.
The notice of the motion to a reduction to £30,000 had been
given without communication to him; nor had he made up
his mind until after hearing Lord John Russell's statement
on Friday. He thought 430,000 a just and liberal allowance
for the joint lives of the. Queen and Prince, and for the
Prince's possible survivorship, should there be no issue ; if
an heir should be horn, then the £30,000 might properly be
advanced to £50,000. Sir Robert Peel concluded by saying,
that he was resolved not to enter into a party contest who
should go furthest to please the.court—that he had no diffi-
culties to reconcile on the subject of his loyalty—that he had
never made the sovereign's. political support a condition of
his allegiance—that he had never been guilty of disrespect
either to the crown or any of the royal family-r-and, that he
could afford to take his own straightforward course, without
needless professions-of the.loyalty he.felt.
The motion was ultimately carried, by 158 for the original
motion, and 262 for the amendment. Majority for the
amendment, 104. .

On motion of Mr. LABOUCHERE, after some discussion,
there was a committee of 'the whole house to consider so
much of the 9th Geo. IV., c. 60, corn imports. as prohibited
the importation into Ireland of wheat, weal, flour, and oat-
meal ; and his resolution, as regarded the importation of
flour into Ireland, was adopted.
On the motion of Sir M. Wool), the select committee on
" Metropolis improvement" was reappointed.
Lord MORPETH obtained leave to bring in a bill for " the
regulation of municipal corporations in Ireland." There are
several alterations in the bill of last year, as not necessary
adjuncts to the measure.
The LORD ADVOCATE obtained leave to bring in bills for
the better regulation of the royal and other burghs of Scot-
land.

On the motion of Captain Pomum., returns respecting the
receipts of Prince Leopold were ordered, and the house ad-
journed at half-past twelve o'clock.

HOUSE OF LORDS.-TUESDAY

. The Marquis of. LANSDOWNE laid before their lordships
the minutes of the Privy Council relative to national educa-
tion..

Lord COLCHESTER gave notice that he should move, on the
4th Feb. for returns respecting.the state of the navy, in con-
tinuation of those of the last year.
Their lordships, at their rising, adjourned till Friday.