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1111511 TITHE EILI.

Lord Joust RussEt.r, stated the course which ministers pro-
posed to take in reference to this measure; how far they were
disposed to adopt the suggestion of Sir Robert Peel, and in
what respects rtes felt bound to deviate from it. Instead of
.€640,000 nut of the million, £740,01A) had been expended,
because £loo,ooo.llad.been granted to the ecclesiastical cotn-
tnissioners under a special statute. This would leave £260,000
vet unapplied ; and this sum, together with so much of the
£740,0a0 as could be recovered from landlords, it was pro-
posed to devote to the payment of arrears of tithe composi-
tions due from occupying tenants in the years'lB36 and 18.37.
In addition to the 1:260,000, it was his opinion that the suns
to be recovered from landlords (whom he did not intend to
relieve from liability, but the tenants only) would amount to
£3e0,000. Thus, the sum of £360,000 might be applied to
the payment of arrears of 1836 and 1837. " Though we
yield," added his lordship emphatically) to the general wish
of the house unon this question, we still think that the propo-
sition is not favourable to the permanent interests of the
Church of Ireland. We fear that the payment of arrears due
from persons whohave refused obedience to the law will offer
a spec►es of premium upon tithe resistance, which is ill cal-
culated to promote the stability-of the Protestant Church in
Ireland." .His lordship said he objected to make it optional
with titheowners to accept or refuse this arrangement, which
it was intended to effect, not by a new set of paid commission-
ers, but through the agency of persons already in office. The
noble lord concluded by moving, as was understood, that the
house resolve itself into committee upon the 3d and 4th Will.
IV. (the Million Act,) and another act.
Mr. HUME put it to the noble lord and the house, whether
the house of commons had ever entered upon a vote of a mil-
lion of public money without previous notice given ?
Lord J. RUSSELL said, that if the hon. member persisted
in objecting to the motion upon that ground, he might, per-
haps be strictly justified; but he thought that the notice
which he (Lord J. Russell) had given of the intention of go-
vernment on this subject had for all useful purposes been
sufficient.— (El ear.)

Mr. 1-li:luE said it ought not to be to him, but. the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer, who should stand forward to protect
the public purse; but when he saw that the Chancellor of th.e
Exchequer, instead of interfering, actually connived at the
contemplated act of robbery, he was bound to stand forward.
Sir R. PEEL said that at this late period of the session he
was not disposed to throw any impediment in the way of this
measure on a point of form. At the same time; whilst he
should consent to the motion of the noble lord for going into
committee, he begged it to be understood that, he did not
pledge himself to the contemplated arrangement upon the
first statement of the noble lord.

After a short discussion, the house resolved itself into com-
mittee; the resolutions tvero proposed, and the house then
resumed.

Lord J. RUSSELL said that' the house being in possession
of these new clauses, he should propose-that they now go into
committee upon the remaining chiuses of the tithe
Sir G. SiNci.Ata gave notice that, when the report was
brought up, he should take the opporturity of making some
observations on the conduct of the Irish government.
Several clauses were then agreed to,
On the reading ,of clause 9; which relates to the revision
of tithe compositions on application to the lord lieutenant in
council,

Mr.l.EFnor proposed the omission of that clause, mid all
the following clauses to clause 19. He objected to the whole
of thOse clauses, on account of the manner iu which they
proposed Id revise the composition of tithe, and especially on
account of the mode of appeal.
The-committee, after a short diStussion, divided on this
amendment, when'. the numbers were—for the amendment,
SS; against'it, 103; majority, 15.
The remaining clauses anif preamble were then agreed to,
anl the house resumed to report on Thursday.
Lord J.- Ross Em. intimated that, having considered the
point, he was willing to postpone the resolutions, which were
now fixed for consideration to-morrow,. till Thursday.