The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-11-15 00:00:00

TO THE EDITOR OF THE STANDARD.

Weimer, Nov. 7, 5 p.m.
Sir,—As it may be interesting to your readers, I beg to in.
form you that the balloon is just beginning to pass over the
sea towards Franee.
I have the honour to be, Sir,
Your most obedient servant,
1-1. W. B.

(From our Dover Correxpondent.)
On Monday afternoon the public attention was anxiously
drawn to the appearance of a balloon travelling in the region
of air in the direction from London to France. It was at a
considerable altitude when first observed, (about five o'clock,)
and, though nearly dark, the car, net-work, and the appearance
of passengers, could be observed by the assistance of glasses.
A light was distinctly seen for some little time in the balloon,
and then disappeared. The balloon continued in sight until it
got away front the castle over the sea, when it was lost sight of.
It was thought that the wind was too strong to a►low them to
descend at Calais; but probably at Dunkirk, or some part of
Flanders, the aerial voyagers would secure a footing. We have
since learnt, that upon the high land near Archer's Court, the
voices of the aeronauts could be distinctly heard, and upon
being shouted to by some countrymen, the flags in the balloon
were waved in token that they were hoard.

(From the Observer.)
Sunday Morning, Two o'Clock.—We scarcely remember any
instance where so much general anxiety has been manifested as
in the well doing of the balloon, and its adventurous experi-
mental passengers. Throughout the whole of the two last days
the gardens at Vauxhall, as well as the establishment of the
proprietors in Fleet street, have been completely besieged by
parties, all of whom had but one object in calling. The uni-
versal question has been, " Pray have you received any intel-
ligence of the balloon ?" To the almost innumerable appli-
cants the same reply has been given, viz.,_ that the proprietors
were without any authentic information beyond that conveyed
through the medium of the aeronaut's letter dropped over
Dover.
The majority of persons appear inclined to attribute the non-
arrival of intelligence to the voyagers having met with some ac-
cident. Wo must confess ourselves not to be one of the party
entertaining such an opinion. We have not the slightest ap-
prehension of any fatal accident having resulted from the
" flight," nor indeed do we suspect that any " untoward event"
has come to pass, other than that the public have not been able
to obtain any account of the voyage, or where the "aerial trio"
have got to.
The plain fact is. the trip being taken mainly at the expense
of Mr. Holland, Mr. Green may be said to be acting with re-
gard to coming down entirely under that gentleman's direc-
tions.
With the inflation with which they started, combined with
the novel provisions in the way of ballast, Mr. Green expressed
it to be his opinion that they could remain up three weeks or a
month. It is not generally known that the contrivances in-
vented for the occasion by -Mr. Frederick Gye and Mr. Green
were of Auch a nature as to enable the latter to lower the balloon
at pleasure with a comparatively small expenditure of gas.
To make some of these understood, it will be requisite for us
to enter into a description of the preparations. On former as-
cents there have bean three seats, or benches, one at each end,
and one across the centre of the car. The last-named of these
has been removed, and a strong piece of timber substituted. In
the middle of this board an opening has been made so as to ad-
mit of the operations of a windlass which is attached to it. To
this a rope of some 150 or 200 fathoms, or yards, (we at this
moment forget which,) is affixed.
The project in the adoption of this plan is to place the aero-
nauts in a situation to haul up an additional quantity of water
should any necessity arise for the application of that element.
For instance, supposing the travellers should have agreed, which
it is evident they have done, to prolong their journey, and the
"stores" run short—a calamity, by the bye, which we should
imagine could not await them for a week or more from the pe-
riod of commencing their tindertaking—they will look out for a
part of the country where there is water. Having discovered
the object of which they are in search, they will permit a very
small quantity,of the gas to escape, which will give the balloon
a descending power, and on their arriving within reach of the
rope alluded to, a leathern bucket, which will hold a hundred
weight Of water, will be thrown over, and having filled, will be
drawn up, and its contents deposited in some of the vessels
which have been fixed to the outside of the car. In the event
of this additional ballast not being sufficient to bring them down
so near to the earth as, to allow an effective use of the grapnel,
the bucket will continue to renew its operations, until the end ,
shall have been attained.

As soon as the travellers shall have completed their "refit-
ment," they will discharge Just sufficient of the water ballast as
will remove the depressing power, and off they will go again to
almost any height inclination may lead.
The water ballast, too, will be brought into "good service,"
in the event of a compression, and consequent condensation of
the gas, which is frequently caused by entering a cloud, and the
subsequent expansion, whieh 'at all times takes place when the
balloon progresses under the influence of a more rarified at-
mosphere.
This power of descent and ascent is an advance in ceronautic
science never before attempted; and a personal knowledge of
the success which has attended the preliminary experiments has
induced a perfect confidence in us as to the certainty of the end
aimed at.

The "stores" which the adventurous travellers took with
them, consisted of twelve fowls, two tongues, eight dozen of
biscuits, two dozen penny rolls, a large piece of cold boiled beef,
two gallons of coffee ready made, one gallon of sherry, two
quarts of brandy, two four-gallon kegs of water, (in addition to
a largequantity of water for ballast,) a lamp, and a proportion
of unslaked lime. which was to be used as a medium for warm-
ing the water, coffee, &c.
A letter was received yesterday (Saturday) morning from
Paris, dated "Thursday afternoon, four o'clock," by Messrs.
Gye and H ughes, from Mr. F. Gve, who, with his father, is at
present in that capital, whither he had gone to be in readiness
to receive the balloon and party in the event of a descent being
made there; but it does not throw any light upon the matter,
containing little beyond expressions of surprise at not having
been able to collect any information as to the " whereabout" of
the balloon. It is now supposed that the aeronauts must have
taken advantage of the favourable winds, and gone to Germany,
and their return is looked for with much anxiety. A Ham-
burgh and Rotterdam steamer will arrive in the Thames about
one o'clock this day, and it is not unlikely that she may bring
some tidings of the absentees.
It will be satisfactory to, our readers to know that the friends
of the voyageurs are not under the least apprehension as to their
safety.

` Lord Holland, as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster,
has appointed his son, Colonel Fox. receiver General of.the
Duchy, in the room of 'the late Sir Wil!lam Knighton, Bart..
other The gallant officer will, we believe; still retain his official
appointment of Secretary to the Master General of the Old
.
mince.

THE REFORMERS OF ST. ANDREW'S,
HOLBORN.

On Thursday morning a meeting of the rate-pavers of the
above parish was held in the inquest-room, St. Andrew's-court,
for the pupose of receiving the accounts of the late church.
warden (Mr. Norris,) to deliberate upon matters connected
with the Thavies' estate, and to make a church rate for the en-
suing six months. Mr. Churchwarden Wagstaff was in the
chair.

In consequence of the circulation of a hand-bill through the
parish, calling upon the " reformers" to attend the meeting, and
oppose any and every motion in favour of the church, a number
of parochial economists and philosophers attended to advocate
the voluntary and the rational.
The Vestry clerk read the report of the auditors appointed by
the parishioners to audit the late churchwarden's accounts. It
appeared that the receipts were EKil 3s 7d, and the disbursements
£B-1-1 17s, leaving a balance of £9 tis 7d to be handed over to the
present churchwarden.
The auditors expressed themselves in high terms of the eco-
nomy and zeal of Mr. Norris, and recommended the rate-payers
to pass his accounts.
The clerk then proceeded to read the items of the church-
warden's account, and the trifing amounts disbursed for washing
the surplices met with the ribaldry and horse-laughter of the
radical.
Mr. Johnstone, one of the leading radicals, rose with great
astonishment, and declared that the charges for the surplices
were not only too high, but that five instead of four quarters had
been charged for.
This having been very satisfactorily explained,
Mr. Johnstone took another objection—viz. that the surplices
were washed at the work house, and ought not to be charged for
at all—(great cheers.)
It appeared that the poor were farmed, and that the charge,
therefore, was perfectly correct.
Mr. Johnstone—Well, then, at least this item here is very ex-
traordinary—(hear.) Why it appeals that the organ is always
wanting repair—(Loud cheers from the radicals.)
Mr. Norris—You are mistaken ; the item is for tuning the
organ—(oh, oh ; We don't want no sich music, old blow Gel-
lus laughter.)
Mr. Johnstone—But here's £36 for it—(hear.)
Mr. Norris—You have mistaken the year 1534 for the amount,
which is £lO only.
Several other objections, with the same success, were taken.
The reformers having been disappointed iu their exceptions,
called upon the clerk to read some of the items in the church-
warden's accounts a second time, which he did, amidst their
classic and liberal witticisms and jocularity.
It was then moved that the report be received and entered on
the minutes, and that the accounts of Mr. Norris be allowed and
passed.
Carried unanimously.
A vote of thanks was then, upon the motion of Mr. Daniels,
given to Mr. Norris, for the ability and urbanity shown by him
during his occupation of office.
The Clerk then read a report of a committee appointed to
settle with the trustees of the Thavies' estate the appropriation
of a certain portion of that charity to general parochial pur-
poses. The report stated that the committee had not been able
to come to any basis with the trustees, on which the matter
might be settled.
Mr. Daniels gave a very clear statement of the proceedings
of the committee.
Mr. Davis, a little Sandie-like radical, who had sidled him-
self into the depths of one of the deeply-seated windows, from
which a round blossom-face, surmounted by a scanty possession
of silver hair, was alone visible, wished to say three words on
this momenchuous question. (Hear, hear.) "Mr. Chairman,"
said the speaker, "you will internally conceive that the trustees
of this beqeathed charity carn't take any sich acknowledgment
as that there committee, of which this here meeting has jest
heard, chooses to make. No, no, Mr. Chairman, they won't;
and 1, as an old and staunch reformer, say that they. done quite
might, because why? Because they will take a majority of the
parishioners, and that's what I call universality suffritche.
(Cheers.) Now 1 would most heartily recommen►l. that a com-
mittee be formed of the whole parish, (bravo,) and that there
should be a big book of rich a size as all the parishioners as can
write, can sign their names in a judicial and legislative manner.
(hear.) Why, haven't the trustees declared that they won't
take the opinion of no committee? (Hear.) Recollect, gen-
tlemen, as the trustees are a high responsible body of men, that
the Lord Chancellor himself carnt remove them. I know that
I am speaking to men of knowledge, but I say the idea that that
young man (Mr. Daniels, who is a barrister) has furnished me
with an idea, as I'll follow. (Hear, and laughter.) I say, gen-
tlemen, solemnly and immediately, (laughter,) that we don't
want to be surprised with church rates, (cir we won't pay none.
(Loud cheers.) I'll never pay another penny for 'em. (Great
cheering.) I say that the suggestions of that there young man
are noble—l've profited by them. I aint too old to learn. That
young man has furnished me with ideas—ideas, gentlemen,
good for the mind." Here Mr. Davis stopped totally exhausted,
and the only part visible to the meeting having become perpen-
dicular to his esconsed body, he was nen est inventus in an appa-
rently very miraculous manner.
The report having been regularly received,
Mr. Daniels moved "that it is the opinion of this meeting
that it would be most beneficial for the parish that any plan for
the appropriation of the proceeds of the Thavies' estate should
originate from the trustees rather than the parishioners, inas-
much as the differences of opinion as to such appropriation
existing among the parishioners appear to be insurmountable."
Mr. Davis here again put forth his hand—" I carnt conceive
what this has to do with it. (Hear.) lam going•to give you a
new idea about it. (The cries of Question' obliged Mr.
Davis to fall back; but immediately the fries ceased, his head
was in its speaking position again.) I say, Mr. Chairman, this
here question ain't ours, because it's the Chancellor's. (Hear.)
I say that our business belongs to the Chancellor (hear); it's
a trustee estate, in the shape of an estate of what we call the
sister kut ( cestui que) sort, and every body what's here knows
that sich an estate belongs to the Vice-Chancellor." (Immense
laughter, challenged by the cheers of the radicals."
A Rate-payer.—Sit down. (Hisses.)
Mr. Davis.—l sharnt. If you can say better, do. (Cheers.)
I think I know and can say as much about it as any man—l
ought. (Cheers.)
Mr. Daniels' motion was carried, after a slight opposition.
The Radicals.---;" Now for the church-rate—rate—rate! The
rate—the rate, my boys!
The Chairman said they were all aware that the worship of
the church could not be carried on without expense. The money
in hand for this purpose was £9 only. He was, therefore, com-
pelled to call upon them to consider the difficulties in which he
was placed with reference to the Thavies' estate, and to say
whether they would grant a rate. Some thought a voluntary
rate the best—(the reformers here set up a shout of approba-
tion)—others thought not. The opinions were conflicting on
this matter, and such was the difficulty that he knew not how to
proceed. They were aware that the government had promised
to do something—(" oh, oh, the old story again,") and he put
it to the meeting whether they thought it better to adjourn the
question till they saw what Parliament would do ? (No, no.)
A Rate-payer.—What rate is required ?
The Chairman.—A penny rate.
(The Reformers.—" No, uo. A farthing rate ! a farthing
rate !" and cheers)
Mr. Daniels asked the clerk whether he could state to the
meeting what portion of the expenses was necessary for the
performance of divine worship, and what portion was required
for parochial purposes.
The clerk said the expenses for the proper performance of
the church service would be about £250.
After considerable confusion,
Mr. Paxton moved that the rate be adjourned for 12 months.
(" Oh, no, give a farthing.")
The clerk said that such motion would be illegal.
A reformer.—Oh, then for six months.
Mr. Paxton.—Sine die.
Mr. White observed that an adjournment sine die would en-
trap the reformers, as, in such case, the churchwarden would be
able to make a rate himself.
The Chairman said he-would never be guilty of any thing so
base.

A Radical.—To prevent any misunderstanding, i move that
a rate of a farthing in the pound be granted. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. Daniels pledged himself that Mr. White was mistaken
in his law.
Another Radical.—A farthing rate—a farthing rate. (Cheers.)
Mr. J. J. Allen asked the clerk what the expense of collect-
ing a farthing rate would be ("Boob, boob," "Oh, oh," and
interruption.)
The Clerk said almost as much as the farthing rate. .(The
reformers, "'That aint the question, and noise.)
Mr. Miller thought there was a misunderstanding as to a sine
die adjournment ;—(hear)—if he understood any thing about
Latin, though it was certainly a long time since he had been at
Westminster School, and might have forgotten his Latin, sine
die was an adjournment to a day beyond another day. (Laugh-
ter from the few gentleme❑ present.)
The question as to the amonnt of a farthing rate was put.
The Clerk.—About £lOO.
Mr. Barugh (one of the overseers.)—And after collection will
leave about £lO fur the churchwarden.
A Radical.—Bravo. We'll give you a rate, but you sharnt
git nothink by it. (Cheers.)
Mr. Tidinarsh thought the majority of this meeting was against
the rate, but he also thought that the meeting would rather make
a rate of one farthing than give the churchwarden the power of
making a rate. Ile thought an adjournment would give a
greater effect to the opposition to church-rates than if they
adopted the other resolution, (Cheers.) Money was not so
much an object with them as was the dissemination of the prin-
ciple to oppose church-rates; and he believed that the most
effectual way to do this was to set their faces completely against
the rate. The speaker here made some extremely violent re-
marks in reference to the exaction of tithes -in this parish, and
upon the injustice of levying► a tax on the Jew and infidel for
the support of the established church. There were no con-
scientious churchmen. ( Hear," and considerable disapproba-
tion.) It was a practice to stigmatise as irreligious those who
desired to get rid of church-rates. " Now I am well acquainted,"
said the speaker, "with a great many clerical individuals in this
county, and I know souse who live in a state of drunkenness, of
beastly profligacy, and who lead sporting lives." (The radicals
loudly cheered this.)
Mr. Daniels offered some temperate and judicious observa-
tions upon the uncharitable remarks of the preceding speaker.
Considerable confusion then arose as to the proper mode of
putting the motion and amendment to the meeting, the clerk
holding one mode and the radicals another—one appealing to
the practice of the House of Commons, and the other to their
own sovereign will and pleasure. In fact the radicals appeared
determined to have their own way, and confusion became worse
confounded.
Mr. J. J. Allen settled the uproar, by calling► upon the
Chairman to decide on the mode in which the motions should
be put, which he did.
Mr. Rainsford rose—(immense uproar).
Mr. Townley rose—(ditto).
Mr. Davis popped forth his head—(ditto).
The clerk, upon order being restored, put the question of a
farthing rate.
A Radical.—We won't give em a d—d farden •
The contrary was then put, when there appeared a majority
against the farthing rate.
Mr. Davis (outline forth his head)—" Bravo, bravo, volun-
tary for ever," (Cheers.)
'the clerk then put the original motion for adjourning the
rate, which was carried by a considerable majority.
The radicals had then a dance.
" No sexton," said one.
" No organ," said a second.
"A great saving of wine," said a third.
" No grave-digger," said a fourth.
" No gas-lights," said a fifth.
" No coals fur the church," said a sixth.
" No beadles," said a seventh.
" No steeple-keeper—no bell-ringer—no loominated clock."
" Hurrah !"—(Exit to various public, houses).•—Morning
Herald

CONSERVATIVE FESTIVAL.—The Cork Constitution of Satur-
day, contains a report of the Annual Dinner of the Cork Con-
servative Association, which had taken place on the previous
evening. in the Cumberland Rooms, and which, for rank, res-
pectability, intelligence, and numbers, was ail that the warmest
frier d of Conservatism could have wished. The chair was oc-
cupied by Colonel Loogheld; and the speakers were, besides
the Chairman, Counsellor Deacr,. Rev. R. D. Freeman, Richt].
Lowiield, M.P., Alxatict•