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HOUSE OF OF COMMONS.—MONDAY.
The following members of the Government took their
seats :—Lord John Russell, premier ; Sir George Grey,
home secretary; Col. Fox, Sir J. C. Hobhouse, Lord
Palmerston, foreign secretary ; Mr. Jervis, attorney gene-
ral ; Mr. Labouchere, secretary for Ireland ; Admiral
Dundas, Mr. C. 'Wood, Lord Marcus Hill, and Captain

Berkeley.
After several railway bills and other business bad been
disposed of, in reply to some remarks from Sir J. Graham
addressed to Mr. T. Duncombe,
Lord JOHN RIISSELL.—After what has passed, I think
it will be necessary for me to state to the house what are
the intentions of her Majesty's Ministers with respect to
the Poor Removal Bill, and I hope it will tend in acme
degree to remove the despair of my Honourable Friend

proceed with it, but with respect to the provisions as
to the residence of the poor, there is certainly some
doubt. I can assure my honourable friend that it is our
determination to proceed with the bill without delay.
(Hear, hear.) I certainly voted with my hon. friend the
member for Malton as to the instructions to be given to
the Committee, because of the existence in the minds of
many of no great doubt as to the expediency of the provi-
sions with regard to the residences of the poor. (Hear,
bear.) I would like very much to have a general com-
mittee with respect to the law of settlement, which was
most complicated and difficult (hear, hear) and
I do trust the bill will get all the benefit of such a com-
mittee. Having said this much. I have a short statement
to make to the house. Her Majesty's ministers having
'very lately accepted office, and not having all of them as-
sembled in consequence of the necessity of vacating their
seats and attending on their elections, I do not think it
would be wise to state the particular measures which we
propose to carry out, or in what respect we propose to
alter the bills at present before the house. (Hear,
hear, hear.) I will make a statement on Thurs-
day with reference to what period I propose to bring for-
ward the Sugar Duties Bill. lam quite aware of the in-
jury which would result to trade and commerce generally
should this question remain unsettled, and I will, there-
fore, when Ix a day, give notice for a further continu-
ance of the sugar duties for a short period. as the mea-
sures which I may introduce may meet with very great
opposition. At the present moment I have no further
statement to make to the House.

lIOUSE OF LORDS-TUESDAY

Earl Powis and the Bishop of SALISBURY presented
several petitions against the union of the bishoprics of St.
Asaph and Bangor. _ _ _ _ _ _ _

In answer to a question from Lord Brougham, the Earl
of CLARENDON had no hesitation in assuring the noble
lord there would be no delay in introducing the sugar
duties.

Lord BROUGHAM gave notice of his intention to call
the attention of the house to a subject arising out of the
appointment of Sir T. Wilde to the Lord Chief Justiceship.
Ile alluded to the compromise between Lord Denman
and the government, whereby the former agreed to re-
ceive only £BOOO per annum, instead of £lO,OOO, the
latter being the sum named by act of Parliament.
Earl GREY reminded the noble lord that be was
Chancellor at the time, and it was his duty to have in-
quired into the matter.
Lord BROUGHAM was astonished to bear one noble
lord contradict, on his own knowledge, what he had just
now asserted on his honour that he was ignorant of. The
truth was, that nobody knew anything about that which
concerned everybody, and for which nobody cared. Such
was the case, according to the noble earl's notion, but it
was not his notion ; and as he was not nobody, but some-
body, be believed that this was a matter which required a
careful investigation. _ _ _ . _ _

Lord CAmpngur. regretted that his noble friend had
not brought in a bill on the subject. He knew that his
noble and learned friend bad carried bills despite of the
large majorities with which his measures were threatened,
and he also knew that if he had introduced a bill on this
subject, it would have passed both houses of the legislature
with perfect unanimity. His noble and learned friend
could not say that he had disapproved of the arrangement,
and continue to bold the Great Seal, and he (Lord Camp-
bell) knew his spirit and his courage too well to suppose
that if he had failed in carrying such a measure he would
not have continued to hold office; he would not suffer
big opinion on such a subject to be overruled. The noble
and learned lord, therefore, appeared to him to blame
himself, after the manner of the Pope, who said, "Judico
me eremari." He acknowledged himself to be in the

wrong.
Lord BROUGHAM said, that if be took a stare of the
blame to himself, so must his noble and learned friend now
on the woolsack, who was his successor in office, and who
.had likewise failed to introduce such a bill.

The LORD CHANCELLOR disclaimed having any share
in the blame ; and the subject then dropped.

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HOUSE OF LORDS-THURSDAY

The Bishop of LONDON moved that the order for the
committee on th,. Clerks Correction Bill should be dis-
charged. He did this in consequence of the noble and
]earned lord on the woolsack having informed him that
there were certain provisions in the bill of whieh he could
not approve. lie hoped that the Government would con-
sider the subject, and by next' session prepare a measure
to give the bishops some more effectual power of punish-

iniclerks.
The Bishop of NORWICH presented a petition from the
Undergraduates and Bachelors of Arts of Cambridge,
intended for the ministry, praying for an alteration in
the Ecclesiastical Criminal Law. The right rev. prelate
stated two cases, showing the difficulty which the
-had in dealion, with clerks, who by their conduct =
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-a scandal on the Church.
The Lord CHANCELLOR said that there was no one in
the house who felt more deeply than he did the ineffi-
ciency of the law in this respect as it stood at present.
The fact *as, that the bishops had not the power to do
their duty. However, he thought it would be inexpedient
to discuss the measure, now that the right rev. prelate
intended, and, in his opinion, most properly, to withdraw
it. He should merely add, that he should feel it his duty
to give the right rev. prelate every assistance in his power,
with a view of framing, by next session, a measure which
would attain the objects intended by the right rev. prelate.
The order was then discharged.
The Earl of RADNOR pointed out that ten or twelve
peers had signed the protest against the Corn-law Repeal
bill who had not been present at the discussion, which
was at variance with the rule.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, on bringing up the re-
port on the Annuity Bill of Lord Hardinge, moved its
restoration to the state in which it had been brought up
to that house.—The Duke of RtcnmoNn opposed the
amendment ; but after a discussion, shared in by the Earl
of Ripon, Lord Brougham, the Marquis of Clanricarde,
and the Earls of Galway and Wicklow, the amendment
was carried, on a division, by 47 to 18. The annuities
granted to Lords Hardinge and Gough will therefore not
be payable to those noble lords during their lifetime, but
will commence with their Descendants.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—THURSDAY.
Lord J. RUSSELL stated the course which the Govern-
went meant to pursue with respect to the measures to be
proceeded with during the present session of parliament.
lie would on Monday next lay before the house his plan
for the settlement of the sugar duties, asking, at the same
time, for leave to bring in a bill to continue the duties for
one month beyond the sth of August, or until parliament
should otherwise determine. With respect to the Poor
Removal Bill, he would only proceed with that portion
which gave a right of industrial settlement. With respect
to the Irish bills, he would proceed with the Ejectment
Bill, with some alterations, but preserving the clauses
which prohibited the distraining of growing crops ; also
with the Leases Bill, but the Compensation for Improve-
xnents Bill was too complicated in its machinery to be
proceeded with before bestowing upon it a very careful
consideration. He proposed to lay before the house a
bill to facilitate the improvement of waste lands in Ireland,
with a view to make known the intentions of the Govern-
ment on the subject, but it would not be proceeded with
until next session.

On the question of going into committee on the Poor
Removal Bill, Mr. E. DENISON said the question of
union settlements was one of the greatest importance to
agriculturists as well as manufacturers, and he regretted,
from the avowed opinions of many members of the Go-
vernment, that it was not likely to be taken into favour-
able consideration. Although desirous to see the Govern-
ment of the noble lord (J. Russell) a lasting one, he would
frankly declare that its composition was not such as to

inspire him v

'1 confidence

After some observations from Colonel WOOD,
Mr. I'. DUNCOMBE complained of the vagueness of
the declaration of Lord John Russell, as to the principles
upon which the government would be conducted—vague-
ness the more suspicious, owing to the rumours which
were afloat as to his having applied to Sir R. Peel for the
loan of three members of his government. This, it is true,
was contradicted by the Secretary at War (Mr. Ward), in
the Weekly Chronicle, but it was affirmed by the Times,
which he supposed was to be the government organ in-
stead of the Morning Chronicle, which was, as was said
in military circles, superseded. This was most ungrateful
to an organ which had faithfully adhered to the Whigs
through their years of depression, and who, in their hour
of triumph, had a fair claim to any authority to be de-
rived from such a position. He also asked what were the
intentions of the government with respect to the Irish
church. Did he mean to adhere to the proposition which
he had once supported, that the increased grant to May-
nooth should be paid out of the surplus revenues of the
Established Church in that country ? Would he -favour
an extension of the franchise, or did he still mean to con-
tend for the finality of the Reform Bill ? Would be, now
that he was in office, bring in a bill to limit the hours of
labour in factories ? It was right that all these things
should be understood, for the support the noWe lord
would receive would be in proportion to the liberality and
comprehensiveness of his measures.
Lord J. RUSSELL said he thought it quite sufficient to
refer to his past life as a member of that house, during
-which his opinions had been always openly and unre-
servedly expressed. With respect to the questions of the
hon. gentleman, he had no hesitation in saving that he
had asked the Earl of Lincoln, the Earl of Dalhousie,
and Mr. Sidney Herbert to join his government. He
bad found himself for several years acting in harmony
with
ththe general opinion of those individuals, clad he did
not think k any difficulty would arise from their nutting
with him. His proposals had been declined ; but _he saw,
nothing to regret in having made the application, ,C". >t
was not absol'itely essential that the members of a goveim-
went should agree in every particular. He might instance'
the fact that he could not agree with
and Earl Grey in his opi-
nions respecting the Irish Church,
even his own sen-
timents were looked upon as extreme by some members
of the cabinet. He thought it advisable tod ealas soon
as possib!e with the social evils of Ireland, and he would
no be led away from that practical object by subjects

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upon which nothing could at present be effected. He
would endeavor that the people of Ireland should have a
political franchise in every respect equal to that possessed
by the people of England. He had voted with the hon.
member for Sheffield that the increased endowment for
Maynooth should be furnished from the surplus revenues
of the Irish church, and he still adhered to his opinions on
that subject as well as upon the subject of the Protestant
and Roman Catholic churches; but he did not think it
wise to urge these opinions to the delay and perhaps de-
feat of practical measures of improvement. The de-
struction of the Protestant Church of Ireland, he thought,
would be a fatal proceeding, for it would be the immedi-

ate signal for a
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religious war. He thought, however, that
ght in thinking that the Catholic priest-

hood might be endowed by the state, and he (Lord J.
Russell) believed that great advantage would have followed
that measure had it been carried out at the time. Now,
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would strenuously oppose such a proceeding. At the same
time he would say that the ecclesiastical state of Ireland
was very unsatisfactory, but still he did not see in it
that urgent necessity which should induce him to bring it
forward before redressing those social evils which were
easier to be practically dealt with. He had never con-
tended for the finality of the Reform Bill, but still he
could not agree with the five points of the charter.
With respect to the hours of factory labour, he would
vote for limiting them to eleven. Air. Laboucbere, how-
ever, was against any limitation, and though he would
always vote for the restriction to eleven hours, he would
not require the other members of his cabinet to do so.