The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-05-06 00:00:00

THE WATCLI COMMITTEE.

The TowN-cLEnic read a report on the watching, lighting;
and cleansing of the town. 1 his, together with a ntunber of
bills and resolutions regarding the clothing, &c. of the police,
was confirmed by the council.

IMPROVEMENT CoMMITTEE

It was referred to the Town-clerk to re!iert on some niode by
which the nuisance of the alkali works might be abated. That
it be submitted to the architect to ascertain what would he the
expense of admitting a portion of the public to the council de-
bates, by providing appropriate accommodation. The architect
reported, that in order to enlarge the room to admit front 70 to
Eio persons, either by taking down the side-hall of the council
room and adding ti it a small room, or by erecting galleries,
which latter plan was deemed inexpedient, owing to the difficulty
of ventilation, would incur an expense of £482 18s. Bd.
Mr. Councillor E. SMITH said their proceedings were reported
to the .public, and he could not see of what use it was that they
should be admitted. He should oppose it.
The MAYOR understood that the proceedings of the improve-
tient committee were to be confirmed with the exception of the
alterations in the council.
Mr. Councillor BOLTON moved, " that it is not necessary,
in the opinion of this council, to make any accommodation for
the public." , He was guile satisfied that the reporters conveyed
to the public everything that it was necessary to know, and he
ihdught that that council ought not to be made a debating club.
(Hear.)
After some further conversation, in which Mr. Rathbone
moved "that the report of the committee be confirmed, with
the exception of the alterations in the council-room,wbich was to
be left for further discussion : " and Mr. Earle an amendment,
"that the report be confirmed, but that the public be not ad-
mitted." On the division there appeared, for the amendment,
7, against it 43. Motion carried.

TOWN DIJES. COMMITTEE.
At the committee meeting of the 18th of April, a deputation
from the inhabitants of Runcorn prayed that the town dues
might not be exacted from them. as, it was a hardship to pay
them without receiving any equivalent advantage. The depu-
tation having retired, it was resolved that the comotittee cannot
recommend the council to comply with the application of the
deputation.—The report was then confirmed.

EDUCATIONAL COMMITTER.
The resolutions of this committee, recommending the esta.
blishment of a ladies' committee, were confirmed.

PAID OFFICEIIS' COMMI'ITEK.
At a meeting of this committee on the 4th of May, " Resolved
that John Dean Case, Esq., be not reappointed as treasurer of
the borough." On this being communicated to Mr. Case, he
bad claimed compensation, and delivered tile particulars to that
committee. The committee had examined this claim, and re-
Commended that £5OO a year should be secured tv Mr. Case by
bond for life.

The council than resolved that these resolutions are ap
proved and adopted."
ONSOLIDATED O-011DIITTEE ON THE DUTILS OF THE TOWN.

CLERK, &C.
' The committee recommended the appointment of Mr. Falk-
land at £250 salary, and Mr. Perry at £l5O, as clerks of the
borough court. It also recommended four clerks to assist in the
department of the town-clerk at salaries from 1:45 to £lOO, alto-
gether amounting to £3OO. Messrs. Tyson, Foden, Hannah,
and Allan Were recommended. It also recommended the ap-
pointment of two cjerks in Mr. Crook's department for the
prosecutions. Mr. Hughes was recommended for one of the
Situations. Salaries not named.
The council confirmed the report.
COUNTY CORONER'S COMFE'NSATION.
The town-clerk pat in a claim for compensation from Mr.
John Heyes, the coroner for the county, who claimed compen-
sation for the loss of his fees by the appointment of a coroner
for the borough, by which he had lost ou a average of the last
five years a sum or £4B per annum, which amount hi claimed,
or a gross sum or £741.
The Tow N-CLERK suggested that the committee should then
retire and determine on this claim.
The committee, on their return a short time afterwards, re-
commended to the council, that the claim of Mr. Heyes for
compensation be rejected, the party claiming not being entitled
to compensation. (Hear.)—Tne report was agreed to.
The MAYOR then proceeded to read several applications. A
letter from Lieutenant Jones, of the royal navy, on the import-
ance and propriety of erecting an observatory, was referred to
the improvement committee.—A letter was read from the comp:
troller of customs in Liverpool, prayit, that the west wing of
the new Custom-house, now fimnisheci, might be fitted up for
business.

The MAYOR said a similar application bad before been made,
and they had ivritten to the treasury; but they had refused to
accept a part of the building without the whole.
A letter was read from the Rev. Rector Campbell, addressed
to the Mayor, as follows:

" Sir,—The committee of management, to whom the conduct
of the corporation schools was provisionally entrusted by your
letter of the 25th of January last, having heard that there are
pome differences of opinion in the school committee as to the
mode of managing them, and some surmises of difficulty as to
the payment of the expences until a surplus revenue is ascer-
tained, have desired me to make, through you, a respectful
aPplication to the council, and ask whether the would be dis-
posed to allow us to retain the management of the schools upon
condition, that so long as we undertake to defray the ordinary
expenses, which (not including the repairs and maintenance of
the buildings) might amount to about £5OO a year?
" In making this offer, I feel assured that we are not actuated
by any selfish or exclusive motives, but simply by the desire of
contributing, our share in accomplishing the chief object of an
established ministry, by promoting to the best of our ability the
religious and moral education of the poor.
" I remain, Mr. Mayor,
" Your very faithful and obedient servant,
"ALBS. CAMPBELL, Rector."
A number of applications were read for the situation of or-
ganist in St. Thomas's Church, which were referred to the
min►ster and churchwardens to recommend to the council who
would be most agreeable to the congregation.
A. letter was read applying for some land on which to erect a
Minot for the children of Scottish sailors.—Referred to the
Silence committee.

An application from the trustees of the Northern Hospital for
a grant of land for building a larger hospital was referred to the
finance committee.
An application from the inhabitants of Pool-lane to have the
flame of the street altered to Broad-street, Custom-house-street,
or Albion-street, was referred to the improvement committee.—
(Would not Standard-street be more appropriate ?)
An application was made by Mrs. Wharion for a grant of
£5O, she having by the late arrangements at the baths been
turned out of her situation there, which she had filled for twenty-
five years.—Agreed to.

APPOINTMENT OF SURVEYOR.
The MAYOR said the finance committee recommended, that
Mr. Josepu Franklin should be appointed surveyor at a salary
of £5OO per annum.

A number of applications for the office were then read.
Mr. Councillor G. HOLT rose to propose that the salary should
£7OO instead of £5OO. The deputy town-clerk and the receiver
of town dues each had £7OO a year, and the duties and require•
meats for surveyor were much more arduous and greater than
for either of those offices.

Mr. Councillor BOLTON thought it would be much more plea-
sant to increase the salary afterwards as a reward, if it were
fonnd the surveyor deserved it. (Hear.)
Mr. Councillor &Rea thought that to raise the salary by an-
ticipation from £5OO to £7OO was a most extravagant waste of
public meney. he could not think that any gentleman in his
own private transactions would act with such inconsiderate
rashness.

Mr. Councillor RAIHBONE begged, in explanation, to say
that he would not act with any inconsiderate rashness. He
Would say, that, whether in public or private, they ought to act
with justice, and not underpay people. It would be 'a very
jewish proceeding, and not a very honest one. (Cries of "Ob !"
" Fie!' "Shamen
After mueh conversation, a division was taken, when there
appeared for the salary of £5OO, forty votes; for £7OO, ten
votes, namely, Messrs. Hope, Harvey, E. Smith, Thornely,
Bathbone, Blanburne, G. Holt, 0. Heyworth, W. Brown, T.
Leathom, and Jones.
Mr. Councillor LEATHOM then moved that Mr. Franklin be
appointed, which was seconded by Mr. Councillor Hovia.
Mr. Councillor S HEIL moved that Mr. Edward Heyes be ap-
painted, which was seconded by Mr. PRESTON.
On a division, Mr. Preston alone stood up for Mr. Heyes.
On the appointment of Mr% Franklin being put, the majority
stood up.

OFFICE OF TREASURER.
, .
The MAYOR said, agreeably to the intimation at the last
'ouncil, they were now going to till up the office of treasurer.
The salary was fixed at £SIX) a-year.
Mr. Councillor IiATHBONE begged to propose Mr. Wyberg to
the'office. He believed he was orn a gentleman, and whether
he was or not he was sure he was in every way qualified fur the
office. Mr. Coo LAN seconded the motion.

Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE would certainly have pro-
poSed Mr. Coates, with £3OO a.vear ; but he was stimuli pleas-
ed with the observations of Mr. David Barry, an applicant who
grounded his qualification on being a staunch reformer, that he
should be very happy to propose Mr. John David Barry.
(Laughter.)
Mr. Alderman LEATHOM proposed Mr. Warner. He had
Made enquiries respecting him, and understood that he was a
gentleman who bail rendered essential service to the town. He
had been treasurer for an important committee in London, and
was auditor for Lord Miltown; he was a gentleman of con-
siderable property, and on the committee of the Northern
Hospital. An idea had gone abroad that the removal of Mr.
Case had taken place to make room for one of their partizacs,
and he was desirous of showing by his vote that he had nothiug
to do with it. He should therefore vote for Mr. Warner.
Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE would withdraw his mo-
tion and second Mr. Leathom's proposition.
On the division, there appeared for Mr. Warner, Messrs.
Lawrence, Earle, and Leathom; for Mr. Wyberg, 44.
•A resolution adopting Mr. Wyberg was then agreed to.
Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN, seconded by Mr. HOPE, moved
an adjournment for a fortn.ght, which was agreed to.
Mr. Councillor BIRCH, before the breaking up of the council,
Wished to make an observation with regard to himself. Some
remarks had been made by Mr. Rath bone, which he thought
personal to him. He had consulted his friends around him and
they thought otherwise; he was perhaps mistaken. Mr. Rath.
bone had used these words, referring to an observation he had
made, that the course he bad seemed disposed to take " was
neither right, nor just, nor honest." He thought, under the
circumstances, it was not surprising that he should feel hurt.
i
'xihol,r.
_!d, however, that they were not meant personally.
ouneillor RATHBONE was surprised that a gentleman,
ri prepared speech had sought to entangle the judg-
ments of_the members of the council, should make such a re-
iauest. He should
thmation.. never feel obliged to give a personal ex-
‘ll:l3 amatter of courtesy he would say, that his re-
marksprinciple, and L,tr,parly to Mr. Birch personally hut to the
Indeed' to take offenctentlenian must he very thin skinned
he .would repeat that to
at what he had said. He did say, and
worth, 'was acting on a 4112 any one below what they were
those remarks personally to !st principle. He did not apply
and
eMr.h Birch; that was all the ex-
planation he wouldAive,
as satisfactory!
Mr. Councillor (RCH was perrredctig
ex-
planation. He only regretted that Mil:!Rsaatiiseed with the h one had recurred
to what had
Birch) bad made an occurre
apology ! ! !d on a former occasion, for which be (Mr.
The MAYOR.—" So do 1."
The council then at a quarter pait three o'clock adjmimed to
that day fortnight.

imperial Parliament.
HOUSE OF LORDS.—MOIVDAY.
STAFFORD DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL.
On the motion of the Marquis 'of Clanricarde, this bill was
read a second time.

CONSTABULARY FORCE (IRELAND) BILL.

On the motion that the house go into committee on this bill,
The Earl of RODEN, having been prevented from being in his
place on the second reading, rose to state his ohjections to this
meagure. He objected to it as unnecessary, expensive, and un-
constitutional; and in the name of the prOtestant people of Ire-
land ; and in the name of the Roman catholics of that country
who were not under the absolute control of a political faction—
in the name of all who were desirous for the peace of that coun-
try, be protested against the bill, and he trusted their lordships
would not assent to it.

Viscount. IVIELBOURNE maintained that the present bill did
not go further than the peace preservation bill, to which their
lord hips and the other house of parlianient had given their
assent. He denied all the assertions made against the hill as
being unfounded and grossly exaggerated as to its tendency and
spirit.
The Earl of Wrck cow expected to have heard from the noble
viscount some explanation of the intentions of his Majesty's
government with respect to carrying the bill into effect instead
of an inteMperate speech attacking the noble earl (Roden) and
the majority of their lordships' house. By the introduction of
this bill the magistrates of Ireland had been insulted.
The Duke of WELLi&nToN pointed out the difference be-
tween the present measure and the peace preservation act, the
latter giving the appointment of constables to the Lord Lieu-
tenant only when the district was proved to be in a disturbed
state; the former giving the same power Without such a condi-
tion. In conclusion, the noble duke insisted that such a power
ought not to be granted; and, if their lordships consented to go
into committee on the bill, he would endeavour to annul it by
withholding such powers as these. He also objected to other
provisions of the bill, and thought that no government ought to
be intrusted with the powers it conferred.
After some further consideration the house went into commit-
tee, through which the bill was passed with the amendments to
particular clauses which bad called forth the previous discus-
sion.—Report ordered to be received on Friday (this day.)—
Adjourned.:.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MONDAY.
GLASGOW AND FALKIRK RAILWAY BILL.

On the motion of Colonel Bit ucK, this bill, after sotne discus-
sion was read a second time and referred to a committee.

LEITH AND NEWHAVEN HA RBOUIt AND DOCKS

This bill, on the motion of ATTORNEY-GENERAL, was read a
second time.

THE DUBLII4 STEAM PACKET COMPANT.

Mr. O'CONNELL presented a petition from the City of Dub-
lin Steam Packet Company for leave to present a petition to
bring in a bill to enlarge their powers, and to increase their
capital.—Referred to a committee.
An iinniente number of other petitions were presented to the
houseon a variety of subjects. None of them, however, pos-
sessed any peculiar feature of novelty or interest.

CHURCH RATES.

Lord STANLEY, seeing the noble lord the Secretary for the
Home Department ityhis place, begged to claim his attention
for a very short time in asking a question. He had that morn-
ing received a communication from a parish in Lancashire,
from which. it appeared that some extensive alterations or im-
provements were contemplated by the authorities in respect to
the parish church; bat they could only carry this work into
effect by mortgaging the church sates. He, therefore, wished
to ask the noble lord to give the house some information as to
whether it was the intention of his majesty's gov'ernment to
bring forward a measure respecting church rates, and whether
in such case care would he taken in such bill to secure the vali-
dity of all existing arrangements under the present law?
Lord JooN Ru ss Li, said, with respect to the first, part of the
question which had been put by his noble friend, he had cer•
tainly given the house to understand that a Measure in regard
to church rates would be brought forward iu the course of the
ensuing session. As his noble friend had put this question, he
(Lord J. Russell) would take occasion to state to him and to
the house, at what time and under what circumstances he pro-
posed to bring forward this case. With reference to the ques-
tion of church rates, it would be recollected that on a former
occasion, when a resolution was introduced which went to pro-
pose the abolition of church rates, it was strongly resisted, en the
ground that the house were not fully inforeied of the actual
amount of property held by the church, and that it was not pro-
per fur the house to proceed to provide a substitute for church
rates in the absence of such full and adequate information. lle
did not share in that opinion, but he did think it quite necessary
that the question with respect to the appropriation of the church
revenues, according to the recommendation of the commission-
ers, should be agreed upon before they proceeded to deal with
the question of church rates; because, if the house should agree
with him in the opinion that the revenues of the church were
barely sufficient for the religious instruction of the people, they
would then have a ground upon which they might proceed. He
would say, however, that his view of the matter, with regard to
what were grievances, was, that in framing any measure bear-
ing reference to church regulations, the question ought to be
Considered as one affecting not a particular class, but the whole
community. lie had prepared two measures bearing
,on the
subject of registration of marriages, &c., and he should con-
sider it would be ineffectual to attempt to settle the question of
church rates unless he were first prepared to settle that of re-
gistration of deaths and marriages, &c. Therefore; the answer
which he had to suggest to the noble lord was this—that he did
intend to bring forward in the present session of parliament a
measure affecting church rates; but that his doing so must de-
pend on the house joining with bins in the opinion that the
church rates should be dispqsed of in a manner conformable to
the recommendations contained in the report of the commission-
ers ; and that there should be a disposition on the part of the
house to relieve all the prominent grievances of the dissenters.
He did not know that he need Say further with regard to exist-
ing engagements contracted under the present law, because,
certainly, all such contracts must he respected. The noble lord
concluded by moving the order of the day for the house resolv-
ing itself into a committee on the report on the the tithes com-
mutation bill.

The house, having gone into committee, the consideration o
this measure occupied the remainder of the sitting.
Adjourned at half-past twelve.

HOUSE OF LORDS, TUESDAY.
CLARENCE RAILWAY.-DURHAM.

The Marquis of LON DON DERRY wished to know whether there
was any likelihood of the money advanced by government, and
the interest due thereon being realised? 'l'be noble marquis
concluded by cautioning their lordships against receiving rail-
way bills without being previously acqua►nted with the facts
upon which they were founded.
The Duke of CLEVELAND insisted that the Clarence Railway
was no job, and defended the parties engaged in it from the im-
putation of fraud.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was unable to answer the ques-
tion put to h►m, as he hail not had an opportunity given him of
applying to the commissioners of the Exchequer Loan Office
on the subject.