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words from Lord BROUGHAM, expressing the
feel if anything occurred to interrupt

should

yed the order of the day to consider
Iments made by the Commons in the Irish muni-

with France

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cipal corporations bill.
Lord LYNDHURST said, that the amendments which had
been introduced were nearly 60 in number, and opened al-
most every question upon which their lordships had decided.
The noble lord then went through the amendments, scarcely
making an observation, and, after stating those to which he
agreed, moved for a committee to draw up the reasons which
had influenced their lordships in dissenting from some of the
amendments

After a short discussion the committee was appointed, and
veral bills having been forwarded a stage,
Lord DUNCANNON moved the third reading of the clergy

reserves om.
On the bringing up of the report on the ecclesiastical du-
ties and revenues bill, the Bishop of EXI",TER moved a pro-
viso vesting the appointment to the deanery of Exeter in the
chapter of that cathedral.
Lord MELBOURNE opposed the proviso as an exception to
the general operation of the clause, and on a division it was
negatived by a majority of 10.
After 'one or two amendments had been introduced, the
bill was read a third time and passed.
The other orders of the day having been disposed of, the
house ad,

,-urned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.—THURSDAY.
A petition was presented from Mr. W. Cobbett, complain-
ing of the mode of taking written instead of oral testimony

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in the Court of Chancery.
Some more of those tiresome conversations to which the
infant felons' bill had before given rise took place at four
o'clock, respecting divers amendments proposed as additions
to it on the third reading. It should seem, however, to be a
piece of legislation which nO addition, amendment, or modi-
fication would be likely to render practically useful, unless
some cheaper and more accessible tribunal than the Court of
Chancery could
_be_ found to hear the applications for the

custody Of the children.
Mr. BRISCOE and Mr. LANGDALE were the chief inter-
locutors, and conducted themselves with much pertinacity
against every part of the bill, and finally against the bill as a
whole, diversifying the dialogue with a few divisions, which
ended, however, in the passing of the measure.
Another division took place on Mr. AGLIONBY'S adjourned
motion for the commission to examine into the treatment of
political prisoners; the house, witliout further debate, decided

against the motion.
The orders of the day having been gone through, Mr.
HOME asked whether ministers had any information as to the
correctness of the morning's report respecting the advance of
the Russians to Khiva.
Sir J. HOBUOUSE answered, that he wholly disbelieved
those reports, an officer having arrived in England who bad
left Khiva since the date at which the Russians were supposed

to have reached that point.
Mr. HOME then called the attention of the house to the
state of our relations with France and the other great powers
of Europe, in reference to Egypt and Syria. He endeavoured
to prove, by extracts from despatches, that Britain, as well as
France, had, for the last eight years, recognised, and even
guaranteed the authority of Mehemet Ali in Syria. It was
said that orders had been sent to Captain Napier to oppose
the landing of the pacha's troops at Bey rout. This if true,
would lead to a perilous war ; if false, it could he easily con-
tradicted, He wished to know whether the convention of
England, Austria, Russia, and Prussia, had been signed, and
also whether there would be any objection to lay it ou the
table of the house before the close of the session. He depre-
cated the policy of the convention. He called on ministers
to avoid a disastrous war and abide by their own pledges of
non-interference ; instead of which they were now acting on
the principles of the holy alliance, and throwingoff the friend-
ship of France, the only constitutional government in Europe.
He begged to know what right this country had to interfere
between the Porte and any of its vassals. The hostilities of
the last fourteen months had been owing to England, and
she was now bringing the hazard of war upon herself. The
preparations of France showed the feeling entertained in that
country.' Meanwhile, every assistance given by us to the
Russian power in Europe served to strengthen that power
against us in India, and to endanger a dismemberment of
Turkey. He concluded by moving an address to the crown
for a copy of the convention.
Lord PALSIMSTON desired to express an opinion diame-
trically opposite to that of Mr. Hume, as to the policy pur-
sued by Great Britain on the affairs of the east. The
guarantee alleged by Mr. flume to be proved by the de-
spatches referred to was by those very despatches distinctly
disproved. Whatever the causes of the revolt in Syria,
British interference was not among them. The instructions

given by the British government to Captain Napier, in com-
mand of our fleet, were to protect British interests. His
only interference had been with the Egyptian commanders,
to prevent the atrocities which were there permitted, but
which that interference had fortunately the effect of mitigat-
ing. The convention, of which a copy was asked, had been
signed ; but, until it should have been ratified, it could not
be produced to parliament. He denied that there had been
any intention to throw off the French alliance, which, on the
contrary, the British government continued to cherish as of
the highest value, not only to those nations themselves, but
to the well being of Europe ; and he did not believe that the
present difference would be more than temporary, still less
that it would lead to anything like hostility between two
countries having so many interests in common. He was glad,
too, to have this opportunity of declaring that no conceal-
ment had been practised by England toward France. The
general princples to be pursued were fully agreed on by both
nations, and the difference was merely as to the means best
dapted in a particular case to the advancement of those prim-
It was by such a policy as Mr. Hume recommended,
and not by the policy of her Majesty's ministers, that the
integrity of Turkey would be endangered. The treaty of
Unkiar Skelessi was not to be renewed. Russia had engaged
to wave, upon receiving counter-securities, all claim to its
renewal. Every effort had been made by all the powers.
Turkey included, to obtain the concurrence of France to the
convention. The failure of these efforts was much to be
regretted ; but he would say that there was no foundation
for the alarm so studiously propagated, that France had
any views of hostility to England. And the consciousness
of the honest intentions of the British government toward
France confirmed him in his conviction that their good un-
derstanding could not be disturbed. This statement was
received with loud tokens of gratification by the house.
Mr. LEADER thought there was some ground of suspicion
in the language of the French papers. The French were a
punctilious people, and he feared that the feeling of wounded
honour would spread among them. He could see no advan-
tage in Eastern policy which could compensate for a breach
between England and France. Certainly there was no hostile
feeling toward France among the people of England, who, on
the contrary, were sincerely desirous to continue in amity
with their French neighbours. He hoped Lord Palmerston
would be able to say that there had been no want of courtesy
toward France in the conduct of the negotiation.
France, replied Lord PALMERSTON, was told all along that
the other four powers earnestly desired her concurrence, but
that, should this turn out unattainable, she must not be sur-
prised if they acted without her. An ultimatum having been
offered to her, which she declined, the other four powers then
decided that they must act upon it without her accordingly.
If, after that, they had recurred to her, and said, " You see
are four, now will you not give way ?" they would have
-'ne her, not a courtesy, but an affront. Of such a

he would have been justly entitled to complain

Mr. LEADER thought the French minister should have had
notice, that unless France acceded, the treaty would be signed
on a certain day. •
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Mr. Hilmt withdrew his motion, Mr. BRISCOE expressing
his conviction that the English had no hostile feeling toward
France, and his obligation to Lord Palmerston for having
kept this country at peace for the last ten years.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—FRIDAY.
The royal assent was given by commission to no less than
35 bills.

The Yeoman Usher then announced that the managers on

the part of the CommOUs-;;;;;;eady to meet those ap-
pointed by their lordships to confer upon the amendments in
the Irish municipal corporations bill. Several peers were
accordingly nominated to manage the conference, and on
their return, Lord CLARENDON informed the house that
they had left with the managers from the Commons their
lordships' reasons for the course they adopted on the amend-
ments introduced by either house.
On the motion of Lord CLARENDON, the railways bill was
read a third time, and several other bills afterwards passed

through committee.
A conversation then ensued upon a petition presented by
Lord BROUGHAM from a Mr. Bertin, formerly a printer in
the Mauritius, who stated that during his residence in the
island, party spirit having been carried to an extreme excess,
he had become obnoxious in consequence of his zealous sup-
port of government, and that at a time when the populace
were unusually violent the office in which his business was
conducted had been assailed, and his life endangered by the
anti-government party. He had been afterwards convicted
before the Supreme Court for a libel published in his paper;
his license of residence had been withdrawn, and his losses
had been consequently very great. A small sum had been
awarded as compensation, but, as it was by no means ade-
quate to the injury he had sustained, he was obliged to appl)
for further relief.
Lord CLARENDON defended the conduct of the colonia
government, and was convinced that M. Bertin had not beer
treated in so harsh a manner as he had represented.
Lord BROUGHAM said a few words in reply, and the sub.

ject dropped.
Lord LONDONDERRY, in reference to the claims of the
British Legion, said that he had read the correspondence
which had been laid upon the table, and he was bound to
state that nothing could be more satisfactory than the
arrangement which had been made. A sum of £50,000 had
been transmitted to this country, together with securities for
the payment of £250,000, and compensation, the amount of
L was to be settled by the two governments, would also

)e allowed
In answi

er to some questions from Lord Haddington' Lord
l'oamANity- stated that the inquiries of the sanatory com-
nissioners in Scotland would be directed exclusively to the
Jbject of ascertaining the state and progress of disease.
Their duties would at present be confined to the large towns,
but he thought their report would not be ultimately complete
until it was extended to the rural districts.
Some conversation then ensued on the evidence given last
year by Mr. Rowan, before a committee on Ribandism in
Ireland, and Lord HADDINGTON afterwards took occasion
to advert to the agitation which was at present going on to
bring about a repeal of the union. The matter appeared
most serious when it was considered who were the leaders
of the agitation, and he thought it highly culpable in the
government not to have expressed their disapprobation of

such proceedings.
Lord NORMANDY professed his desire to give every infor-
mation that could be afforded on the subject of ribandism,
at the same time that he deprecated discussion on the point
during the progress of the trials.
The noble MARQUIS then moved the second reading of
the administration of justice (Birmingham) bill.
Lord WAgwicx opposed the.motion, but after a short
discussion it was carried without a division.
The Commons' amendments on the Chancery bill intro-
duced by Lord Brougham were then agreed to.
The ecclesiastical courts bill passed through committee.
Upon the bringing up of the report, however,
Lord DEVON proposed the addition of a clause to the
effect, that John Thorogood should not be released until the
rate and costs had been paid, either by himself or some other
person or persons.

- The LORD CHANCELLOR declared that such a clause
would frustrate the object of the bill ; but the Duke o
WELLINGTON and Lord ELDoN having spoken in suppor
of the amendment, it was carried upon a division by a majo
rity of 13.

'the other orders were then disposed of, and their lord
ships adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDAY.
Very little business was done. The report of the refusal

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1,414,1043111 litilltitg their ameNaNsakaKt;
d House of Commons gave way, Lord Morpeth " eat-
ing the leek" with good will, and Mr. Pigot at last gulping
it with a wry face.

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Mr. W. Arrwoon moved for certain returns respecting
lighthouses and pilots, which were ordered.
The ecclesiastical bill, with amendments, was brought
from the Lords, and Saturday was appointed for the consi-
deration of them.
The house then adjourned, at half-past six o'clock.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—SATUILDAY.
The linen, &c., manufactures (Ireland) bill, the postage
duties, &c., bill, the Dublin police bill, the highway rates
bill, the ecclesiastical courts bill (No: 1), with amendments,
the stock in trade bill (No. 2), were severally read the third
time and passed.
There was a message from the Commons importing how far
they-shgd agreed with their lordships in the amendments to
the municipal corporations (Ireland) bill; and which also
forwarded the coal duties (London) bill, &c. Their lordships
afterwards adjourned.