The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1841-04-30 00:00:00

CORRESPONDENCE.

THE PRESIDENT,

TO THE EDITOR 01,

THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

SlD.,—Rumour with her many tongues has said almost
anything and everything as to the probable safety of the un-
fortunate steamer—President. e have had also theories
propounded by this and that man who is supposed to possess
the best acquaintance with the subject; but, alas ! all re-
mains conjecture still, and some of these theories are no
longer entertainable. Some thoughts have occurred to my
mind, which 1 beg respectfully to submit to your considera-
tion, and if thought worthy of further notice, you might
carry them out, or give them a more practical form.
It has occurred to me that a committee of inquiry, formed
of those gentlemen who have the most knowledge of the con-
struction, machinery, and navigation of these large steamers—
joined with those intelligent nautical men, who encountered
the gale which it is supposed the President would fall in with—
might by their matured deliberations, very much tend to
allay this painful feeling which is abroad upon this subject,
becoming still more painful by the frequency of idle surmises.
If there is any probability of her safety, we should then, by
seeing the reasons fairly discussed, feel greater confidence;
or, on the contrary, if every probability be run out, a judg-
ment might be formed as far as the materials presented in
this case, as would enable them to judge upon the sea-wor-
thiness or liability to casuality of vessels of such large dimen-
sions as the President. I feel somewhat persuaded that such
a committee might be formed, without the exercise of any
other authority than the respctful request of the public ex-
pressed through some public officer—the chief magistrate for
instance. And Liverpool at this time contains gentlemen
who seem particularly qualified, by their superior knowledge,
for giving intelligence upon this all-absorbing question, al-
ready we have been favoured by some of them with their
opinions.

I am, sir, your obedient servant,
R.

. _
P.S. It is high time, I think, that the " catch penny" fra-
ternity should be stopped. How often have our ears been
wounded by their lying reports?
Liverpool, 29th April, 1841.

LIVERPOOL AND THE WEST INDIA COLONIES

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

SlR,—Permit me, through the medium of your excellent
paper, to call the attention of the merchants, tradesmen,
and others interested in the prosperity of this town, and
more particularly those connected with the trade of our
West Indian colonies, to a subject which seems most unac-
countably to have escaped their notice. I allude to the
choice of the port of departure for the steam-ships which,
in August next, are to convey the mails and passengers to
and from this country and those colonies. The grounds on
which our own great port is entitled to lay claim to the pre-
ference, have been so ably stated in an address on the sub-
ject, accompanied by a chart of the route, put forth several
months ago by the Glasgow Chamber of Commerce, that I
need only refer those who wish for a clear perception of the
merits of the question to the document itself, and would
earnestly solicit for it that attention to which its merits so
justly entitle it.

It does seem very strange, that when a subject of such
vital importance to their interests was so ably discussed by
a neighbouring community, the Liverpool public neglected
to afford it that co-operation which could alone render it
available for the object in view ; and that when the preten-
sions of rival ports in the English Channel were keenly agi-
tated in parliament by the parties interested, neither of our
members (so far as I can learn) ever raised their voices in
favour of the undoubted claims of Liverpool. I do not,
however, blame them, as, from the apparent apathy mani-
fested here by the parties most interested, the subject was
not properly impressed upon them. In consequence of this
.glaring neglect, the claims of Liverpool were never exa-
mined, and the contest lay between the ports of Southamp-
ton, Dartmouth, and Falmouth ; and three commissioners,
to whom was entrusted the duty of deciding on the compa-
rative merits of each of these stations, gave in their verdict
in favour of Dartmouth—a choice which seems to have taken
everybody by surprise. On that point, however, I will not
now enter; but as I observe by the debate in parliament on
Tuesday evening, that a select committee to se-open the
subject, and again examine its merits, has been obtained, I
take the opportunity of urging on the public of Liverpool
the importance of making a struggle—better late than never
—to have their claims brought before the attention of the
house. For this end I would suggest that the West India
Association should, as soon as possible, take the subject into
consideration, and that they should call a public meeting' of
the merchants, and others interested, to take the steps best
adapted for carrying out this very desirable object.
I sincerely wish that a subject of such vast importance to
our local interests had the advantage of abler advocacy than
can be dedicated to it by the humble individual who now
solicits for it the attention of this great mercantile commu-
nity ; but the subject " needs not the foreign aid of orna-
ment," and has only to look to its own intrinsic merits for
support.—l am, sir, your most obedient servant,
M ERCATOR.

THE CORN-LAWS.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD,

SIR,—In the Liverpool Times newspaper of Tuesday last
I observe a leading article pretending to be a reply to a letter
from our highly-esteemed townsman, Mr. Gladstone, on
the subject of the corn-laws. The article itself is worthy of
notice only in one respect, and that is, to contradict the
statement there made, that Mr. Gladstone has " of late years
become an extensive landowner," as a charitable reason
for his venturing to advocate the principle of the corn-laws.

It seems now to be rather late in the day to contradict the
calumnies week after week issued by the radical press
against this gentleman and those connected with him ; but
in reply to what Mr. Gladstone's interest might lead him to
think, I may state, knowing the country well, that he is not
an extensive landowner, and that the property he has in
Scotland is not a corn-growing district, nor is any wheat
raised within seven or eight miles of it.—l am, sir, your
obedient servant, SCOTIUS.

281 h April, 1841

TO THE EDITOR OF THE ALBION

Sir,—There appeared in your paper of Monday last an ac-
count of " Frauds on Emigrants," in which a young man, in
our employ, of the name of Beckett, was summoned for
booking two passengers for the Silvanus Jenkins, or Princess
Victoria, instead of, as the passengers stated, the Patrick
Henry, or Birmingham ; and that the passengers having
sworn to these facts, Mr. Rushton would not hear any evi-
dence or explanation from the young man, or allow him to
be sworn, but at once concluded from the ex parte statement
of the passengers that all stated by them was correct, but
which, and so far as any person in our employ was concerned,
was concerted, deliberate, and malicious falsehood. And it
will be readily admitted, unless self-interest is involved, that
a man would not willingly put himself in the power of law to
infringe upon that interest, or to jeopardize his character
where his reputation would be tarnished in the opinion of
his masters.

Now, from the foregoing statement it may be fairly asked,
what interest could Mr. Beckett, our apprentice, have in en-
gaging these two passengers, or in leading them to suppose
he was booking or engaging them for some other ship, when
his employers had three or four of their own sailing at or about
the time when those passengers wanted to embark, and there
being at this time also hundreds of passengers in town, and
hourly arriving? He was entirely a disinterested party, and
common prudence, as well as common sense, would indicate
to him the due fulfilment of his own as well as his employers'
duties. We cannot, we presume, be cognizant, much less ac-
countable for any conversation the passengers may have had
with the person who brought them *to our office to engage
their passage, but the individual who did so was before Air.
Rushton, the magistrate, and denied having stated what the
passengers swore to; and Mr. Beckett, as well as another
person of respectable character who was in the office at the
time these passngers engaged their passage, would, had they
been permitted, have been ready to swear and to prove, that
these passengers in question never mentioned, whilst in the
office, either the Patrick Henry or the Birmingham, and that
moreover, the ticket which they received was read over to
them and by themselves also, and the money paid accord-
ingly; but an explanation not being allowed, a belief would
seem to be induced upon the minds of the public that Mr,
Beckett had imposed upon the passengers, but which, in re-
ality, was not the fact. The passengers, however, found
their way to the office of the Government Emigration
Agent, Lieutenant Henry, a highly honourable and disin-
terested man, and, in returning from thence, came again ,
down to our office, when they were informed by Mr. Robin-
son, that Mr. Beckett was not then in but he was on board
the Silvanus Jenkins, and that if either of the passengers
would go to that ship for him he would go with them to the
government agent, and that both parties might make their
statement, and that whatever he thought right would be
agreed to.
But this did not serve their purpose, and an attorney was
employed, and the matter terminated as stated in the Albion,
by its displaying an article apparently highly prejudicial to
the character of a respectable young man; and witat aggra-
vates the circumstance of this arbitrary proceeding, and ren-
ders it obnoxious, is, that no explanation should be allowed.
Surely it was at least reasonable to have permitted the young
man to speak in his own defence ; and, as surely consistent
to have heard both sides of the question.
The generality of passengers that are in so great a hurry to
get away, are those that have never taken leave of their
friends or creditors, and their evidence should be looked
upon with very great suspicion, as well as those who can
neither read nor write, as it will be readily admitted that
ignorance and wickedness are twin brothers, and not, as in
the present case, that because they happen to be emigrants,
that prejudice, compasSion, and charity should overrule
justice.

It will be perceived, from the foregoing observations, that
in this case, as well as nearly all others—when investigation
takes place, that the frauds and impositions practised on
emtrants—dwindle into false representations and inconsistent
misstatements, neither worthy the attention of a court, nor
the credence of any just and impartial person.—We arc, sir,
your obedient servants,

Liverpool, April 27, 1841

J. and W. ROBINSON

CHURCH ACCOMMODATION.—A noble effort is about to
be made at Hull, to procure an extension of church accom-
modation ; this is much needed, as there is not convenience
in the churches for one-seventh of the population. We sin-
cerely hope that the spirited conduct of Manchester and Li-
verpool will be followed by the friends of the church in Hull.
COUNTRY FIATS IN BANKRUPTCY.-131 a return to an
order of the house of commons, moved by Mr. Mark Philips,
and ordered by the house on the sth instant to be printed,
we perceive, that the total number of country fiats in bank-
ruptcy opened during the four years ended the 15th March,
1841, was 3,174, or an average of 793 per annum. The total
number of country fiats issued during the same period was
4,591, being a yearly average of 1,447. It appears, by the
same return, that there are 140 lists of bankruptcy commis-
sioners, and the total number of commissioners is 721. The
total number of fiats opened before the Manchester commis-
sioners (three lists) in the same period, was 452 ; by the Li-
verpool commissioners, 291 ; and by the Leeds commission-
ers, 224 ; giving yearly averages respectively of 113, nearly
74, and 56 fiats.

NOTTINGHAM ELECTION.—This election closed on Tues-
day afternoon, at two o'clock, by the resignation of Mr.
Larpent, the whig candidate, in favour of Mr. Walter, well
known as a zealous conservative and opponent of the new
poor laws. The following was the state of the poll from the
commencement to the close:—

- ---- ---- •
WALTER. LARPENT.
9 o'clock
10
101
111
12
1
2 (the c105e).... 2018
Majority for Walter 296.
Great excitement prevailed in the town, and the termination
of the election was a surprising discomfiture to the." liberal"
party. Treasury gold was more plentiful than the good na-
tives of Nottingham were wont to behold ; but notwithstand-
ing all that could be done in that way, and the appearance of
government agents, the unfortunate " rejected' of Ludlow
" gave in" very discreetly when he found that the polling of
all the remaining electors could not brinz him a majority.
As a proof that this signal victory was unexpected, we may
mention that in the morning large bets of 4 and 5 to 1 in fa-
vour of Larpent were moving about. What will the whig-
radical government say to this—two defeats in as many days?

LIVERPOOL OPERATIVE CONSERVATIVE

ASSOCIATION.

Last evening a special general meeting of the members of
the Operative Conservative Association was held in the large
room attached to the York Hotel, in Tarleton-street, for the
purpose of receiving some communications of interest, and
for other purposes. The meeting was numerously attended.
DANIEL LEDSoN, Esq., president of the association, en-
tered the room a few minutes past eight o'clock, and was re-
ceived with great cheering. After ing taken the chair,
he was again greeted with loud cheers. He spoke nearly as
follows :—The first duty which devolves upon me this even-
ing is to read to you the answers which I have had the honour
to receive from the Marquis of Normanhy and Cnl. Anson,
in reply to the congratulatory addresses which were agreed
to at a recent meeting of this association on the occasion of
the birth of the Princess Royal, and which were duly pre-
sented by our representatives, Lord Sandon and Mr. Cress,
well, to her Majesty and Prince Albert. (Hear, Lear.)
" Buckingham Palace, Feb. 21st, 1841
Stu.—T •

—I have this day-had the honour to lay before
Prince Albert the congratulatory address from the Liverpool
Operative Conservative Association; upon her I,4.ljesty's safe
delivery of a Princess ; and I am commanded by the Prince
to convey to you, and all who concurred in the address, the
expression of his royal highness's sincere thanks for the
gratifying sentiments it contained.
" I have the honour to be, sir,
" Your most obedient servant,

'• G. E. ANSON.
" Mr. Daniel Ledson, Chairman of the Committee."

" Whitehall,

March Ist, 1841

" Sti,—l have had the honour to lay before the Queen
the loyal and dutiful address, on the occasion of the birth
of the Princess Royal, from the members of the Liverpool
Operative Conservative Association ; and 1 have to inform
you that the same was very graciously received by her Ma-
jesty.

' I have the honour to be, sir,
" Your obedient servant,
" NORMANBY

" Mr. Daniel Ledson, Chairman.'

And I r.m quite sure that there is no one in the room but
who will join me in the fervent hope that the royal infant
may prove in after life a blessing to her august parents and
an ornament to the country. (Loud cheers.) Since I had
last the pleasure of meeting the association, nothing of any
particular local importance has occurred, with the exception
of the introduction into the town of the new poor-law amend-
ment bill. In smaller townships I am aware that the bill
has worked well, and been of considerable benefit; but when
I remember the admirable working of the late system here,
when I reflect on the vast number of individuals who daily
receive medical relief at our institutions and hospitals, and
when I am convinced that, consequently, the poor in the
town have had no cause of complaint, I do trust that the
legislature may be prevailed upon to exempt Liverpool
altogether from the operation of this bill. (Loud cries of
" Hear, hear.") But if they should not think fit so to do,
we have at least the satisfaction of knowing that the
powers of the act are delegated to twenty-five gentlemen
who, I believe, will conscientiously perform their duty.

(Loud cheering.) 1, for one, at least, can say, as a very hum-
ble member of the newly-elected Board of Guardians, that I
will on all occasions, without distinction of sect or party, be
ready to lend an impartial ear to all well-founded claims, and
so lessen the burdens which do press so largely and laments-
bly on the poorer classes of the community. (Cheers.) And
here, gentlemen, I might sit down—(cries of " Go on")—for
there are here gentlemen who will move the resolutions this
evening, who are more competent than I am to expatiate
on the leading topics of the day, to congratulate you on that
signal triumph which has conferred honour on the whig-
borough of Nottingham. (Loud laughter and cheering.)
And yet more on that glorious victory which was achieved
by the conservative party on Monday night in the House of
Commons. (A burst of cheering, which lasted for some
time.) But while lam speaking 1 may as well allude to cer-
tain rumours which are abroad, that Mr. Cresswell will no
longer be returned for the town of Liverpool. (Loud laugh-
ter, and great cheering.) I feel the more confidence in ad-
verting to these reports, as I stand here in the presence of
an association which has done good service to the conserva-
tive cause, and which has proved more than any other cir-
cumstance that I am acquainted with, that the principles
which we advocate are not the less popular because they are•
connected with the preservation of order, and the defence of
our institutions. (Cheers.) It is through the efforts of this
association that the town has been gradually relieved from
that sort of vassalage to whig-radical opinion to which our
opponents would willingly reduce it. (Hear, hear.) It has
been through the courage of the operatives of Liverpool that
the town has ceased to return representatives who would
move and act only in accordance with the beck and bidding
of her Majesty's present ministers. (Cheers.) •It has not
been, I say, without courage that the working classes have
lent their aid to bring about this change, for they have had
not merely to arouse themselves from the political dreams of
wild aberrations and theoretic amendments to which they
were invited, but they had likewise for some years past to
contend not only against government influence—(hear, hear,)
—but against that all-pervading local influence which the
corporation of Liverpool had wielded against them, and
which conies home to the door of every man, and more or
less affects every man's domestic interests and affairs. (Loud
cheers.) It is no trifling matter to fight against a public
body which has in its patronage so many precious and plea-
sant gifts, and which holds with such a nice hand the
balance oilicenses and inspectorships. (Cheers and laugh-
ter.) But, gentlemen, from these thick clouds and darkness
we have escaped, and what a triumphant independence we
have acquired ! (Hear, hear.) It will not do now for the
treasury to send forth its imperious mandates to the town of
Liverpool—(hear)—even if those mandates were indorsed
by the retainers in the Town Council,—to foist upon us
some strange candidate of its own peculiar selection—(cries
of " hear, hear")—some obsequious lord of the bedcham-
her peradventure—(loud cheers)—kept in special training for
the supply of a surprised and distressed constituency.
(Great cheerinr, and laughter.) It is not to Liverpool that
they can appeal' for any addition to that flickering majority,
if majority it may be called, which still faintly upholds the
ministry, and still feebly attempts to sustain the work of the
revolution in the House of Commons 1. (Cheers.) No, gen
tlemen, I am inclined to think that even if a man not in the
strictest sense of the word a treasury candidate—(hear)—if a
man, I say, not yet a lord of the bedchamber—(hear, hearl—
if a knight, gentlemen—(loud cheers and laughter)—and I
do not know but there may be such an one even domesti-
cated among us, who may venture to offer himself to your
choice—(cheers and laughter)—l rather think that he will
fail to push from his stool the honourable and learned gen-
tlemen who now represents you in Parliament. (Great
cheering.) The seat which Mr. Cresswell occupies is inde-
pendent and secure. (Tremendous cheers.) That confidence
which we once offered him out of respect for his abilities, and
from sympathy with his opinions, is now secured to him, be-
yond all chance of interruption, from the experience of his
political career, arid our gratitude for his legislative services.
(Immense cheering.) I therefore trust that we shall conti-
nue to increase in strength, and be still enabled to combat for
those constitutional principles which have been the means of
elevating us in our present position as a nation, and
which have proved at once our glory and our strength—
(great cheering)—for in the defence of our national in-
stitutions rests the only sure pledge of our commercial
prosperity. (Cheers.) lam glad to see so many gentlemen
here who are staunch supporters of the cause, and who testify
by their presence this evening, the hearty alliance which sub-
sists between all classes in Liverpool who are engaged in
forwarding conservative views. (Hear, hear.) And here I
cannot refrain from referrins. to Mr. James Aspinall,--kloud
cheers)—who has not been able, from other engagements, to
be with us this evening, and who has done as much as any
gentleman whom I can think of inthis town to promote
those principles which are connected with all that is sound
in politics and sacred in religion. (Great cheering.) He.
and others whom I could name, have been for a long time
the objects of the rancour and attacks of the opposite party,
but allow me to say that these weapons of offence fall short
of their mark, for calumnies are without point, and reproach
without shame, when there is a cause, as there is now, which
c mvertseensureintorralse, and brightens obliquy into glory.
—The chairman then resumed his seat amid tremendous
cheering which lasted for a considerable time.
Tha CHAIRMAN then introduced the excellent member for
St. Ann's Ward, Mr. Parker, to move the first resolution.
Mr. PARKER then stepped forward and was received with
enthusiastic applause. He said he could bear testimony to
the exertions of the operatives in the conservative cause, for
he was most indebted to that class of all others for the honour
of representing St. Ann's Ward. It was said when North
Toxteth Ward was won by the conservatives, it was won by
the great and influential merchants, the aristocracy of this
commercial town, who, by their influence, had brought in
Mr. Alexander Smith. By whose influence was it, however,
that he (Mr. Parker), a humble tradesman, had been returned
for St. Ann's Ward—was it by the rich merchants and in-
fluential men ? No, it was by the tradesmen and operatives
of the ward. He begged to move the following resolution :
" That this meeting tenders its best and most warm-
hearted acknowledgments to Lord Sandon and Mr. Cress-
well, for their very valuable services in parliament, to the
conservative party and cause, and particularly to their great,
ready, and early attentions ever paid to all the local calls of
the great community they represent; and this meeting begs
further to tender to Lord Sandon and Mr. Cresswell, a vote
of confidence in their political conduct, and by all lawful
means to support them in any contest for the representation
of Liverpool in parliament.'
(Loud cheers.) The chairman could not have put into his
hands a resolution that gave him more delight and pleasure
in moving than that which he held in his hands, for he was
sure every class of .the community were under great obliga-
tions to the two gentlemen named in it. The attention of
Lord Sandon to every thing, not only by conservatives, but
by men of all parties in the town, had made his praises ring
from one end of it to the other. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Cress-
well, be (Mr. Parker) knew from personal observation, was
indefatigable in everything that could promote the interest of
the town of Liverpool; his professional engagements cer-
tainly did not allow him to devote so much tinie as Lord
Sandon, but with such a coadjutor as the noble lord, Liver-
pool could not be better represented than by those two gen-
tlemen. (Hear.) When he (Mr. Parker) entered the
room he found the worthy president alluding to the attempt
which had been made to introduce the new poor law bill into
Liverpool. From conversation which he (Mr. Parker) had
had with Mr. Cresswell, he found that he (Mr. Cresswell)
and Lord Sandon had still great hopes that this evil would
yet be kept from our community. (Cheers.) It never was
the intention of the poor law commissioners to put in force
that bill in this town, which it was well known was a model
for every town in the kingdom in its management of the poor.
But by whom were they induced to bring the bill down here ?
By our political opponents ' • Mr. Earle at the parish vestry
had acknowledged that to be the case ; and they, cared not
what the result was if they could do anything to lessen the
conservative interest in the parish, well knowing that tha
conservatives had possession of the parish—and why should
they not? (Hear, hear.) The fact was, it was the political
jealousy of our opponents which had introduced it. He was
glad, however, that all the guardians were good conserva-
tives. (Cheers.) If this bill should come into operation,
instead of a rate of ls. 6d. in the pound, we should have one
of 3s. 6d. or 4s. Gd., because there must be a building erected
capable of holding 8000 or 9000 persons, as no out-door re-
lief could be granted. (Hear.) Mr. I'. then referred to the
recent successes of the conservatives in the municipal elec-
tions, and said he looked forward to increased success next
November, when lie hoped they would be in a situation to
elect a conservative mayor. He said the municipal act was a
Protestant and Church of England act. (Hear.). This was
tne first time he had had the honour of meeting their re-
spected chairman. He had often heard with pleasure the
eloquence of a Holmes, but he thought the association had
much reason to be proud of a Ledson. (Cheers.) He begged
to move the resolution.

Mr. J. SMITH seconded the resolution, and it was received
with nine times nine cheers. Three cheers were afterwards
given for Mr. Parker.

Mr. JOSEPH CRISP moved the second resolution, in a
spirited address, in which he commented upon the apathy
manifested by leading and wealthy conservatives in support
of the conservative cause and the conservative press. The
following is the resolution— _

" That this meeting, knowing the sterling worth of James
Aspinall, Esq., and his praiseworthy and noble exertions in
the conservative cause, and for its interest, beg respectfully
to tender to him their most grateful acknowledgments."
Mr. Crisp then paid a high and well-merited compliment to
the zeal and energy of Mr. Aspinall; and said he would have
strong claims to be elected the first conservative mayor of
Liverpool. He then mentioned that on Wednesday next a
meeting would be held of the Protestant Association to agree
to a petition in support of Mr. Colquhoun's motion with re;
spect to 11laynooth College, at which the Rev. Hugh M, .
and the Rev. Hugh Stowell would be present. This "

nouncement was greeted with .enthusistic cheers. Mr.
Crisp, in conclusion, detailed some striking facts as to the
liberality of the liberals with respect to some poor men occa-
tionally employed by the association in Clayton square.
Mr. THORNTON seconded the_motion.

The CHAIRMAN put it, and it was carried unanimously.
Three hearty cheers were then given for Mr. Aspinall.
Mr. WOOLLEY, in a brief but sensible speech, assigned a
variety of forcible reasons for opposing the new poor law,
which had been referred to by sonic of the preceding speak-
ers, and moved the following resolution :
" That the chairman (D. Ledson, Esq.)

be respect.

requested to present the acknowledgemenEs contained in tlie
preceding resolutions to Lord Sandon, Cresswell Cresswell,
and James Aspinall, Esqrs." .

Mr. GEORGE JONES seconded the resolution

The CriAtamAN, in putting the motion, said it was not
required to induce him to communicate the sentiments of
the meeting to the gentlemen therein named; nevertheless,
as it had been moved, he should have great pleasure in doing
so.—The resolution was then put and carried.
Mr. GLEAVE, in moving the next resolution, exposed the
character of Mr. Daniel O'Connell most completely, and we
only regret that the space to which we are limited prevents
us from inserting the expose. He moved that on, or the first
convenient day after, the 17th May, the Association dine to-
gether. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. RALEIGH seconded the motion.
The CHAIRMAN said he was authorised to state that Lord
Sandon intended to be present at the dinner, and he trusted
Mr. Cresswell would also be able to attend. He (the chair-
man) believed, however, that the Amphitheatre was engaged
for the 17th, but he had pleasure of adding, that any day
between the 17th and the 22d would suit Lord Sandon.
(Loud cheers.)
The resolution was then carried.

Mr. PARKER said before the chairman proceeded to the
business of enrolling members, he was desirous of proposing,
a vote of thanks to a much respected individual. If there
was an individual in the town to whom the operative conser-
vatives were more indebted than another, it was their chair-
man. (Loud cheers.) The Operative Conservative Associ-
ation, he believed, were a much more formidable and extensive
body than most people were aware of, for upon their books
there were the names of not less than from 1200 to 14tH.►
voters. (Cheers.) For such a formidable array of weight
and interest they were much indebted to the active part their
excellent chairman had on all occasions taken.—(loud cheers)
—and he therefore begged to move a vote of thanks to him.
(Renewed cheers.) Mr. Parker then proceeded to expose
the fallacies of the anti-corn law cry, which he did with much
perspicuity, and at considerable length.
Mr. CRISP seconded the motion, and it was carried amidst
tremendous applause from all parts of the meeting.

Mr. Leroscir returned thanks in a very neat and effective
address, which was greatly applauded.
After the enrolment of a number of new members, the
meeting separated.

THE REV. HUGH 31`NEILE AND DR. BUTLER

It is perhaps quite unnecessary to notice the perversions
and mis-statements of any advocate of the Popish system ;
but as the talents and scrupulous fidelity of Dr. Butler have
been much lauded by the party to which he belongs, and the
radical press of Liverpool, we cannot refrain from alluding
to one or two of his remarks at St. Anthony's Chapel on
Sunday evening last. It will be remembered that this gen-
tleman, on his arrival here, undertook to reply to the admir-
able lecture of the Rev. Hugh M`Neile, preached five years
since at St. Michael's Church, in this town, and to refute
each and all the arguments advanced therein. It was also
announced in the most pompous style, that this great gun of
the Papacy was ready to meet any Protestant-divine, to dis-
cuss with him the truth or falsehood of the Popish doctrines;
being, no doubt, inflated with a foolish confidence that, be-
cause the clergy of Ireland had not deigned to notice his
boasting challenges, he would meet with a similar reception
here, and could then duly notify his fancied triumph. He
has, however, been woefully deceived, as would be observed
from the correspondence in the STANDARD of Friday last.
The Rev. Mr. Baylee, of Woodside, professed his willingness
to meet this vaunting controversialist; but the high tone of
challenge was quickly laid aside, and an invitation to hear
from him " the pure gospel of the blessed Jesus" placed in
its stead. The gauntlet was then taken up by Mr. Baylee,
who stated his readiness to prove " the apostacy of the
Church of Rome," the " schism of Popery," and the ' catho-
licity of the Church of England." To this Dr. Butler has
not yet given any reply, _

We now proceed to show the obstinate blindness and evi-
dent prevarication of this reverend doctor, whilst giving
utterance to a series of unprovoked attacks on the character
and name of a gentleman he would do well to imitate—the
Rev. Hugh M`Neile. After some passing remarks, the
lecturer stated that, in Mr. M`Neile's " endeavour to prove
the Church of Rome tyrannical, he had only referred to the
case of Mr. Galway, a Roman Catholic, of the county of
Waterford, in whose house the priest of the parish had re-
fused to celebrate mass, in consequence of a dispute between
him and the Roman Catholic bishop of the diocese"—and
then expatiated upon the conduct of Mr. M'Neile in prying
into the private concerns of such respectable parties us Mr.
and Mrs. Galway, and wound up by telling his audience that
this was the only instance adduced to prove that the Church
of Rome was tyrannidal.

It will, perhaps, not occasion much surprise to our readers
to learn that in the preceding page of the sermon to that front
which Dr. Butler was quoting. Mr. M`Neile brings forward
another very significant fact, illustrative of the principle for
for which he was contending, viz. the refusal of the Venetian
republic in 1604, to admit the temporal authority of the
Bishop of Rome, and the proceedings consequent upon that
refusal are detailed at length on the page, which must have
been before Dr. Butler's eyes at the very time he was declar-
ing so positively that the former instance of tyranny was the
only one advanced by Mr. M`Neile. So much for this part
of the story ; and now let us see what becomes of Mr.
M`Neile's curiosity in prying into the private concerns of
a domestic circle. Mr. Galway was naturally indignant at
such treatment as we have alluded to, and wrote to the
bishop to remonstrate. He received no answer, and wrote
a second letter, which, with the former, he published in the
newspapers a few weeks prior to Mr. M'Neile's remarks.
The latter gentleman mentioned, in the most delicate man-
ner, the facts as detailed by Mr. Galway, in the documents
so made public, and appears purposely to have refrained from
any comments on such a nefarious transaction. And this is
called " prying into the private concerns of Mr. Galway."
Surely our radical friends must now be ashamed of their ad-
vocate, and the public will know from the instances we have
given, at what rate to estimate the asseverations of Dr.
Butler.

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