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Jmperial Parliampt.

HOUSE OF LOUDS—MONDAY.
The house met pursuant to adjournment.
Viscount Melbourne was absent from indisposition.
Several petitions from' various places on different subjects
were presented to the house.
STAFFORD DISFRANCHISENIENT BILL.
Lord LYNDHURST fixed on Tuesday next as the day on which
he would move that counsel be heard at the bar of the house
against that bill.
Several bills before the house were forwarded a stage.—
Adj ourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS—MONDAY.

MR. DANIEL O'CONNELL.
The SPEAKER, on taking the chair, informed the house that
he had received a petition from the clerk of the Ranaper, Dub-
lin, complaining of an undue return.for the city of Kilkenny.
MAYNOOTIS COLLEGE.
Mr. GLans-roNE presented a petition, very numerously signed
ty individuals connected with the three universities of 'Oxford,
Okambridge, and Dublin, complaining of the class of books used
by the College of Maynooth as grossly indecent, and calculated
to debase and corrupt the human mina. The petitioners prayed
that no further grant be made to this institution, and, as the
subject stood for this night, he felt it to be his duty to call the
attention of the house to the petition which he had now the
honour to present, emanating, as it did, from sources well en-
titled to consideration. (Hear.) The petitioners most earn-
sought that no more of the public money be granted to purposes
'that were peculiarly prejudicial to the cause of pure religion.—
(Hear.)
Sir R. BATESON presented several petitions on the same sub-
ject from parishes in Downshire, Londonderry, Coleraine,
Bangor. Antrim, &c.
Mr. HARDY presented a petition from protestants assembled
at Exeter Hall, (we believe,) complaining of a departure from
the principles of the constitution on the part of the house in
many of its late acts. They took notice of the acts for the relief
of the dissenters and of the catholics, and there they found that
those to whom power was granted were, ur.der the obligation of
an oath, bound not to do any thing which would disturb or
weaken the protestant religion as by law established: they had
taken 'mins to find out what those principles were, and they
found that it was a firm protest against the doctrines of the
church of Rome, which were held io be idolatrous and hate-
ful; yet the house were in the yearly habit of making grants
to Maynooth College, where those who were to disseminate
those errors received that education which fitted them for the
office. They prayed that such grant may be discontinued. The
petitioners strengthened their views by referring to the princi-
ples of protestant religion, as set forth in the 39 articles of the
Church of England, the confession of faith of the Church of
Scotland. The petitioners strongly urged that the grant which
went to support what was at variance with the protestant reli-
gion might not be renewed.
CITY OF DUBLIN ELECTION PETITION.
Mr. O'CoNNEtt. moved the renewal of the adjourned debate
on the petition against the decision of the select committee in
favour of Messrs. West <and Hamilton for the city of Dublin.
Some discussion arose, in the course of which the Attorney-
General contended that the petition could not be entertained
by the house. In this view the Speaker coincided, and even-
tually Mr. O'Connell withdrew his motion.

REFORM OF THE HOUSE OF LORDS.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL applied to the hon. member who had
given notice of a motion for expunging from the books a notice
respecting the House of Lords, and hoped the hon. member
would bring forward his motion on some future day when the
house went into committee of supply.
Mr. O'CONNELL.—I will move that his notice be expunged.
(A laugh.)
Mr. GROVE PRICE said that he had given notice of the mo-
tion in order to prevent any question affecting the other house
'of parliament being introduced in the manner proposed by the
hon. member. He thought that great evil would arise from the
discussion itself, and although he did not entertain one
moment's doubt or hesitation as to the manner in which the
majority of the house would repudiate the motion, yet he was
unwilling. that such a motion should be brought forward and
made the subject of deliberate discussion in the house. • He had
since been infortned by an hon. gentleman, to whom he owed
much deference, that there was a technical objection to his
motion. Under these circumstances he would not risk so im-
portant a matter, and an issue of such tremendous magnitude,
on an occasion when it might be turned upon a mere point of
form. He hoped, however, in some mode or other, in tempore
et loco, when no difficulties of a techical nature were in the
way, to be enabled to place on the journals cf the house as
strong an expression of his feelings as was contained in the no-
tice. He well knew the dexterity of his opponents, and the
adroitness with which they would turn every technical advan-
tage in favour of a proposition as monstrous and unconstitu-
tional (he would not apply the last and severest term) as had
been made in parliament since the year 1642. (Hear, hear.)
He withdrew his notice solely on the grounds which he had
stated. He should not, however, lose sight of the °Neel.,
either now, or while he had a seat in that house. (Cheers,)
Mr. O'Corisruct. said he would not lose sight of his object
either. (Laughter, and " Hear, hear.") He was anxious to
maintain the 'barinony of the constitution, and such being the
object of his motion, tie should persevere in it. He knew no
technical objection to the motion, and he was determined to
submit it to the house, notwithstanding the opinions of the hon.
member opposite, no matter whether these were the result of
inspiration from the high quarters of absolutism, the camp of
Don Carlos, or the columns of the Morning Poet He would
bring forward his proposition, which should ultimately be de-
cided as the people of England would determine.
Mr. GROVE PRICE explained. He had already stated that
he withdrew his motion on technical grounds. There was,
however, another reason. If he had succeeded in his motion,
for which there was but one precedent, and that a hasty one,
the hon. member for Kilkenny, or some other hon. member,
could again place the expunged motion on the books.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL was glad of the hon. member's deter-
mination. (Hear, hear.) It was his (Lord John Russell's)
intention to oppose the hon. member's motion, as it was his in-
tention to cppose, whenever it was brought forward, the motion
of the hon. and learned member for Kilkenny. (Hear, hear.)
It was his (Lord J. Russell's) opinion that it was the undoubted
right of that house to introduce bills to regulate the succession
of the crown, and a reform in the representation of the people
in parliament; so it was likewise the undoubted right of that
house to introduce a measure for what was called, but which he
shouldnot call, a reform in the constitution of the other branch
of the legislature. (Hear, hear.) Such were the grounds on
which he intended to oppose the hon. member's motion. He
was glad, however, the hon. member had listened to the advice
he had received. He (Lord J. Russell) presumed that advice
was given to the hon. member by the right rev. prelates in the
other house of parliament—(laughter) • to remove whom from
thence a motion had been very lately discussed in this house.
'As the lords spiritual had a right, which he (Lord J. Russell)
Was determined to maintain, to sit in the other house of parlia-
ment, it would be, no doubt, paying a very bad compliment to
the right rev. prelates not to concede the right of discussing the
privileges of the lords temporal, after theirs had been discussed.
(Laughter.) He thought it likely the right rev. prelates felt
somewhat hurt at seeing the motion of the hon. member—(re-
newed laughter)—placing them and their privileges, as it did,
in so very invidious a point of view as compared with 'the lay
-lords. (Great laughter.) Having a great respect for the right
rev. prelates, and maintaining, as he did, that it was the right
of both the lords spiritual and temporal to sit in the other house,
he did not intend to make a distinction so invidious as that
which the hon. member's motion was calculated to create.
(Hear, hear, and laughter.)