The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-09-20 00:00:00

MURDER AT STAPLETON.

BRISTOL, SEPT. 12.—We regret to state that the immediate
neighbourhood of our city has been made the scene of as brutal
and cold-blooded a murder as any which disgraces our criminal
annals. On Saturday afternoon information was brought to the
St. Philip's station-huuse that a woman had been murdered at
Stapleton. Immediately upon the receipt of this intelligence,
Mr. Inspector Garrard repaired to the spot, and was speedily
followed by police sergeants Alexander and Waltham. On ar-
riving at the Mason's Arms, Stapleton, the officers there found
the lifeless body of a respectably dressed female. Her death
appeared to have been caused by her having received the con-
tents of a pistol at the back of her bead. The slugs with which
the pistol had been loaded had entered just above the nape of
the neck, and made their way through the brain upwards and
forwards. until stopped by the frontal bone. The landlord in-
formed the officers that between one and two o'clock on that day
(Saturday.) the female in question (who was about 45 years of
age,) together with a young man attired in a white hat, plaid
waistcoat and trousers, striped shirt, and dark coat. came to his
house, and called for two small glasses of gin-and-water, which
were sent into the parlour to them ; the young man then came
out of the room and borrowed a knife, for the purpose, as he
said, of "cutting a bit of stick ;" he then went for some time
into the back-yard, and when he returned the knife to the land-
lady she observed that he hung down his head, and appeared
much agitated; there was a notch in the knife when he brought
it back. Determined to make him speak, she said, " It is stormy
weather :" to which, after considerable hesitation, he made an
unconnected and vague reply; he then paid for the two glasses
of gin-and-water, and he and his companion both went away,
and turned up the road, when a female saw them turn down
Libbett's-lane, the entrance to which is about eight or ten yards
from the Mason's-arms. Upon reaching the bottom of the lane,
where there is a stoue stile, another person saw them, and they
turned back up the lane, the young man having his arm behind
the woman's back. In a short time a man, who was at work inS
a quarry, heard the report of a pistol or gun in the direction of
the lane, but, from its being September, he took no notice of the
circumstance; and in less than an. hour from the time of leaving
the public-house the unfortunate woman was brought back to it
a murdered corpse, having been found lying dead in the lane
with her gown torn off (the hooks and eyes of which were after-
wards found in the lane), which, together with her shawl, was
gone; her bonnet had also been removed, and the ribands torn
off it ;* but theme were evident marks of the shot having passed
through it; her gloves were half off her bands, as if the murderer
had attempted to take them off, but had been disturbed in his
purpose. In her pockets was found 4s. 6d., and upon her finger
was a gold ring with hair in it. She was found with one leg
doubled under her, apparently from her struggles in the agonies
of death. It appeared that the deceased was a Mrs. Lewis;
who, hearing that her daughter and her husband were in Bristol,
had come from Monmouthshire to see them. The deceased's
daughter had resided in Bath as a lady's maid; but a short time
since she married a man named Robert Bartlett, who has been
acting as a perforiner in one of the shows the Sanspareil
Theatre) during the late Bristol fair; in which capacity he had
very frequently, as is the practice here, tired off the pistol to
draw attention to the exhibition.

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her decease ; that a few words arose between them, and sbe
went out, followed by Bartlett, who did not return to his lodg-
ings until between 5 and 6, when he immediately changed his
clothes and shirt. On searching the room, the officers found the
striped shill., white hat, dark coat, and plaid waistcoat and
trousers, exactly answering the description given by the land-
lord at Stapleton. In a pocket was
discovered some powder,
and a stick cut roughly. for a ramrod ; the stick was of hard
wood of the same description as a bit left in the notch of the
knife. The officers also found a double-barrelled pistol, which
appeared to have been recently discharged.
Yesterday (Sunday) afternoon, as if by a strange fatility'
Bartlett went to the house at Stapleton where the body was
lying, apparently from curiosity, and upon entering the room
before he could see the face of the deceased, he exclaimed'
" Good God ! it is Mrs. Lewis my mother-in-law !" and threw
himself upon the chair in a state of great agitation. He then
wanted to go away, but the landlord got him to stay, and sent
for the landlady and a Mrs. White, who had been in the room
with Bartlett and the deceased, and they both identified him ;
he was consequently taken into custody to await the result
of the inquest. It is understood that the deceased was pos-
sessed of some property, which would come to him at her de-
cease.
This morning an inquest was held at the Mason's Arms, Sta-
pleton, before Mr. W. J. Ellis, coroner, and a respectable jury.
The body of the murdered female was exposed to the jury on
two tables, from which a quantity of blood had run so as nearly
to cover the tables as well as to completely saturate the floor. A
surgeon who was examined stated that the pistol was discharged
immediately behind the left ear, and that he had found four of
the slugs lodged in the brain. Mrs. White, the landlady, iden-
tified the prisoner as the person who had been at her house in
company with the deceased on Saturday afternoon. The pri-
soner accounted for having the pistol by saying it was for the
purpose of making as much noise as possible at fairs, &c. stating
that those who could. buy such or other means, make most
noise, generally succeeded best. He rather wished to call some
witnesses, but wan dissuaded from doing so by the coroner. who
advised him to remain silent, unless he should wish to ask the
witnesses for the prosecution any questions. His behaviour was
no other than appropriate for a person in his situation. After a
lengthened investigation, a verdict xif " Wilful Murder" was
returned against Robert Bartlett, and he was accordingly
committed by the coroner to Gloucester gaol for trial.—Bath Ga-
zette.

• The remains of the gown and bonnet ribands have since been
found in a pond in the " Duchess's Park," as it is called.

Ebe iLibErpool ,tatibao.

TUESDAY MORNING, SEPTEMBER 20, 1836.

An unusual supply of foreign news has been received
since our last number was published, furnished by the. Paris
journals, bringing intelligence from Spain, up to Friday
last. We give elsewhere such extracts from the London
papers, as our space and the topics of domestic interest ad-
mit, and which appear to us most likely to prove gratify:-
ing to our general, readers. It would seem that a great
deal of difficulty and confusion still exist, respecting the
final completion of the French ministry, the inevitable
consequence of the present condition of the entire Pen-
insula, which will not be a little aggravated by the state
of affairs in Portugal, and the proclaiming there of the
Constitution of 1820, the particulars of which we sub-
join. An extraordinary express of the Weekly Post has
brought the latest intelligence from Paris to Friday af.
ternoon. From these papers It would appear that the
French King is greatly embarrassed, in consequence of
more than half-a-dozeti of the most able men in France
having positively declined taking office ;—Soult, Molitor,
and two or three other generals had decidedly refused
the ministry of war, and only M. Martin du Nord had
been persuaded to accept the charge of the department of
public works,—M. Gabriel Delassert, Prefect of Police,
in the room of M. Guisquet, and of M. Rernusat, sub-
Secretary of State for the Interior, and M. Gasparin
chief. These form the only additional appointments
since our former notice. It is even stated, that the dis-
union of feeling ran so high on Wednesday last, as to
threaten the immediate break up of the present cabinet,
in its incomplete form. This state of affairs arises in a
great measure from the almost universal opposition of
the press to the doctrinaire party, few moderate men
choosing to expose themselves to animadversion at such
a crisis. The presidency of the war department, and
that of the Chamber of Commerce, remaining open, are
'serious obstacles to Louis Phillipe ; and the great pro-
bability exists that if these be nut speedily filled up, the
triumph of the extreme liberal party will be complete—the
state of Portugal will speedily determine the question.
With regard to Spain, all is confusion worse than con-
founded, and the greatest alarm exists in the capital of
the hourly-expected arrival of one or other of the roving
bodies of the Carlists. It was the Brigadier Gomez, and
not Basilio Garcia, who had obtained the victory of Jad.
raque, as stated by us on Friday. Garcia has recrossed the
Ebro, with an immense booty. Espurtero is stated to
have expired under an attack of paralysis, but more pro-
bably from poison; and the Brigadier Alaix was appoint-
ed to his command, and had proceeded in quest of
Gomez. Don Carlos has published a spirited, yet tem-
perate, address to the Spanish nation, on its present
condition, offering to it his paternal protection, an ex-
tract from which we give.

REVOLUTION AT LISBON and proclaiming the consti-
tution of 1820. At the moment of the assembling of the
Cortes, and immediately on the expected opening of that
august assembly by the Queen in person, on the 11th
instant, it is stated, in the private correspondence of the
Weekly Post of Sunday, that a revolution (see contem
poraneous extracts.) had taken place. This is, to all ap-
pearance, the result of a deeply-laid plot ; an army has
figured therein in exactly the same form and with pre-
cisely the same spirit as that of Spain. We cannot well
doubt the correctness .of this intelligence, furnished by
our able contemporary, who briefly notices it under the
usual leading column, but we must wait the arrival of
the official despatches. Preparations, it is said, were
made to receive the Queen and her immediate friends on
board the English squadron, as soon as her escape from
her revolutionary keepers could be safely effected.
Since writing the above summary we have received
the important intelligence of Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel
Evans's failure in another attack upon the Carlists.

"B.IFO.A"JVB, Sept. 12.

" General Evans has attempted, without success, an attack upon the
Carlists to the south-east of Hernani. Three battalions have repulsed
the 5,000 men, with whom the General had promised hinitelf to
avenge the check sustained at Fuentarabia. The Christinos continue
inactive on every part of the line In the direction of Bilboa and to-
wards the Ebro. The regiments think not of fighting. In their ranks
have been organized clubs, denoininated societies of "Padilla," affi-
liated with the. great association of the Communeros, which, under
its leaders of 1823, has revived. These bold champions of perfect
equality between all men, and of the liberty of the human race, among
other things, make oath to judge, condemn, and execute all individuals,
without excepting the Sovereign, who may abuse their authority. It
is not easy to conceive how the restoration of the Communeros can
rouse the Patriots from their apathy. This political sect, which
amounted to about '70,000 members in 1821, is now mnch less numer-
ous, though they be disseminated all over Spain.
General Cordova having wished to make a promenade towards
Behobia, his appearance upon the bridge, the head of which is com-
manded by a small party of Christinos, has excited some agitation.
The officers declare that if General Cordova had advanced to the fort,
he would have been roughly handled by its garrison of 140 soldiers.
The General has returned to Bayonne, after having been subjected on
his way, at Behobia, as well as St. Jean de Luiz, to violent menaces.

We have heard no tidings whatever of the little division under
General Labeau, recently stationed in the vicinity of Estella. That
General, as well as Colonel Conrad, and the French officers serving
under them, are in a very critical position, owing to the probable dis-
banding of the auxiliary legions forming at Pau.
Advises from Madrid inform us that M. Campuzano is appointed
Minister at Paris, and M. Aguilar in London.
Count de Toreno has left Madrid to repair to Santander. The
Duke de Rivas has departed for Gibraltar. General Vanhalen has left
the army, and most severe searches are made to discover his retreat.
,• Letters from Saragossa, of the 9th, state Euarista San Miguel to be
pursuing the factions in Lower Arragon, but that all his efforts were
unsuccessful, their bands overrunning the country with impunity.
Don Carlos has transferred his head quarters to Tolosa. He left
Aepetia on the 9th, in the morning. The Infante Don Sebastian has
followed him to Tolosa. It is not thought that the two Princes will
stay long in that town, the dampness of which has already proved de-
trimental to the health of Don Carlos. General Villareal, who has not
seen the Prince since his promotion to the supreme command, is ex-
pected at Tolosa.
The official report of General Gnibelalde upon the affair which
has just taken place before St. Sebastian, contains the following
Towards three o'clock, the enemy supported by numerous pieces
of ordnance, and batteries of the village of Alza, attacked the works
we are erecting on the heights of Amezagana. The third battalion,
which was on the line, and some companies of the Oth and Gth regi-
ment, in conjunction with it, defended the position with so much
spirit and vigour till night, that the enemy, after several attacks, have

been compelled to abandon their project. 011 T loss amounts to f.,'o
killed and wounded." This bulletin is dated head-quarters, Ilernani,
9th September.
" Advices from Elifsondo of the 10th state General Espartero to have
expired at Sesma."

It is now upwards of twelve months since the conser-
vative press so ably and fearlessly did its duty with re-
ference to the crooked policy of our present intractable
government, on the subject of Spain, in connexion with
the quadruple alliance. The consequences of suspending
the Foreign Enlistment Act were also so freely exposed
by Lord Mahon, that any ministry, not insensibly blind
to reason, and entirely infatuated with the folly of deal-
ing with questions of great national policy upon abstract
principles, would have foreseen the end to which its dis-
ingenuous measures must inevitably lead. Putting
aside the glaring impropriety of interfering in a family
state quarrel, with the merits of which we had nothing
whatever to do, and which in no way, as regarded the
regular succession, bore unfavourably on the national
interests of this country, but, on the contrary, the very
mode of interference selected was of so imbecile a cha-
racter, that in the judgment of all reflecting men, and
those best acquainted with the internal condition and
feeling of the Spanish people, it could not rationally be
expected to lead to anything short of failure, and the in-
evitable result of the compromise of our national dignity.
Lord Mahon's ability, and Sir J. Elley's manly integrity,,
were alike lost upon our self-adulating, foreign secretary
and his pur-blind colleagues. It was, in fact, generally
agreed that a force of 10,000 men, raised in this country
upon the plan proposed, and even if well officered and
provided, would he entirely inadequate to effect the ob-
jects so plausibly held forth by our sticklers for the cause
of Christina, and the estatuto real system of policy, for
the government of her daughter. We fearlessly main-
tain that, molder whatever form such an auxiliary force
was sent out, it carried with it the character of an irra-
tional compact—an intervention for pay in a dispute
which in no way concerned us nationally ; and Conse-
quently in which the reflecting portion of the people of
Spain, in fine, all but a knot of aspiring partizans, and
even the revolutionary dregs of that people would not
sympathise, but view with distrust. The evils which
have fallen upon the Spanish nation successively, and
the present deplorable condition of the legion, without
having effected any one palpable benefit, or in any way
arrested the progress of Don Carlos, sufficiently attest
the correctness of our view, setting aside the losses and
misery endured by that legion during an inglorious cam-
paign of twelve months, crowned by the marching
through France of the unfortunate deserters from its
ranks, who would no longer submit to the infliction of the
cat-o'-nine-tails, nor to the risk of being shot by the Car-
lists without honour or pay.
In all warfare, the nature of the danger or difficulty to
be surmounted should always regulate the means taken
to obviate it; but this wise precaution never appears to
have once entered into the heads of our truly chivalrous
ministers, who vainly imagined it was only needful to
exhibit the caps of the Westminster Grenadiers to the
hardy mountaineers of Charles the Fifth, to make them
take to their heels and throw down their arms—an effect
the very reverse has been shown long since, but it made
no alteration in the Palmerstonian policy. The chief of
Downing-street, all-sufficient, and awaiting the " destiny
from above," left his hapless radical protege Evans, to his
winter repose at Vittoria, and his soldiers to die of hun-
ger and disease by hundreds, without even the expres-
sion of a sigh, at the downfal of British honour, occa-
sioned by the want of due preparation and timely suc-
cour. Well, the spring came, and with it the abrogation,
by Don Carlos, of the Elliot treaty, and upon substantial
grounds, arising from the first desertion of its letter and
spirit by the Christinos, and subsequently, through our
improper intrusion on the rights of an individual, with
whom, and with whose followers, we were not at war,
nationally! If the fate of an invasion of our own island
were to be determined upon the same principles—to be
attempted to be effected in the same manner—if the cap-
turing of our vessels, and the possession of our forts,
enabled a party in the state to wage war against the re-
gular succession to the throne, by the assistance of a
foreign band of mercenaries, the most scrupulous amongst
us, not interested in the success of the faction, would at
once decree the justice of sinking or burning such foreign
enemy, and denying to it the rights of belligerent na-
tions. This, therefore, is a question purely for the deter-
mination of that power against which the force so em-
ployed is directed—it might suit that power to capture
the vessels, and burn them—it might suit it to destroy
the crews ; and in either case the injured or opposed
party (no declaration of war existing) would be justified
by the law or custom of civilized nations. This is pre-
cisely the position of the Legion, with Don Carlos, in the
war of succession. We do not wish to place our unfor-
tunate, deluded countrymen, in a more degrading situa-
ation than they have been placed in by the criminal policy
and, latterly, supine conduct of those who pretend to
watch over the subjects of a British King, and their wel-
fare at home and abroad.

The present condition of the Legion, composed of Bri•.
tish subjects, and which we cannot, with an eye to pro-
priety, honour with the ostensible appellation of the
" English Legion," engaged as it is, before a people fight-
ing for their fueros, or ancient liberties, is, nevertheless,
one of painful interest; and the conduct of the govern-
ment respecting it, merits the strongest expression of
public indignation. Why are not measures taken to en-
sure its return home, as its power of utility is now at an
end, if ever it proposed any?

We need hardly argue the question now, that the sub

jects of neutrals who join a belligerent, cease to have a
right to claim the protection of their own government as
against the other belligerent,—but in this case, humanity
and national honour should interpose. Those per-
sons," says Galiani, " who serve a foreign sovereign for
hire, are no longer subjects of their former sovereign,—
they are under him who pays them,— so that the op-
ponent of the latter may consider them irregular or hos-
tile troops, and whenever he falls in with them; whether
on board ship or on land, and though even they should
not have reached the territory of their new sovereign, he
may legitimately attack, destroy, or capture them, (with-
out reference to international law,) neither is their for-
mer sovereign entitled to protect them; for this would be
to overstEvp the correct limits of impartiality." Our wor-
thy contemporaries of the London Chronicle and Globe
have long since endeavoured tomake itappear, that there
is no defined covenant properly understood by the " law
of nations." We deny this false logic,—there are cer-
tain established, long recognised usages, respecting which
all the ablest writers on the law of nations are agreed,
and we
.further assert, they are not more unanimous on
any one point than that the subjects of a neutral state,
receiving the pay of one of the belligerents, cease to have
any claim to the protection of their own sovereign, and
may be treated exactly as the subjects of the belligerent,
which they have joined. The proclamations of Don Car-
los, have long since put the troops of Christina out of
the pale of national warfare; the policy of the whig
cabinet has placed English subjects in the same predica-
ment; and yet no steps are taken to retrieve this dis-
graceful error, nor to save the unfortunate victims from
its consequences.

The ink is hardly dry upon our paper, which records
the splendid scene at Newton, when we are called to
notice the gathering of another " thousand" constitu-
tional heroes at Beverley, in Yorkshire. We most
heartily accord to them their rivalry, and vtill weave for
them the humble garland of our commendation, with the
same zeal as they have wove the garland of their protes-
tant devotion around that motto, which combines within
itself a rallying call to every man, who bears, and, who
truly glories in the name of Englishman ! Yes, indeed,
" pro aris et foci's," are words which convey to the real
English heart sentiments of a soul-stirring character,—
the man who would not defend his altar and his hearth,
when they are both exposed to danger must he dead to
the voice of chivalry indeed ! This meeting has been a
most glorious one, in the centre of the whiggery crows
nest of Yorkshire. Nine hundred and eighty-fire Eng-
lish hearts, associated at one festival in honour of con-
servatism. What say you -to this ye mighty of Leeds.
ye one hundred and twenty-three, who Oheefed the- twid-

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die of municipal story, sounded in your ears by the -2lfor
pethian cymbal of an imbecile ministry, and which the
base notes of the great " Mercurial" organ—and old
mistress " Grnpticle's serpent" have sent forth again in
order to alarm the constitution defenders of the mon-
archy. Verily, this proceeding of yours was an im-
ported Irish bull, exhibited by the chief secretary in a
Yorkshire hide, " and no mistake," as Aar friend Gully
of Pontefract, would say! e have got these worthy
men of Leeds—the whip mayor, and his conclave be-
tween the conservative fire of York and Lancaster, and
the Lord have mercy upon them and their " thimble-
riggery," in concert with their patrons elsewhere. Sir
G. Strickland was a shrewd soldie-r to declare off as he has
done—he has escaped thereby the mire of political de-
gradation, into which this " Gordian knot" of Whigs
assuredly fall ere long. Returning to the scene at
Beverley, we must especially refer to the speeches of
Lord Hotham, and the Rev. Mr. Coltman, they embrace
all the topics which we have feebly essayed to exp uind to
our realers ; but the subject not yet exhausted in our
hands.

One of the most cheeping and gratifying prospects of
the present moment, is the already established and in-
creasing union between the upper branches of our
aristocracy and its descending links, throughout the en-
tire kingdom, Without exception ; and although brought
about by the exigencies of our political situation, as a
matter of necessity, fur mutual preservation, it is pleasing
to contemplate the increasing confidence, stability 'of
principle, and social harmony which is engendered.
Never did Britain, at any period of her highly displayed
zeal of purpose and unanimity of courageods sentiment,
exhibit the richer traits of her national character to
greater perfection, than in liar present attitude of defen-
sive conservatism. From east to west—from north to
south, the impulse is impressively imposing. Thus, we
find the call of Lancashire, simultaneously responded to
by Suffolk, by Essex, by Kent, by York, and; in •
sion, all the leading counties and:bet-thigh towns in: the
kingdom. It is impossib'e that a reunion of the better
elements of our social structure like this progressing,
can be repelled by the Whig-raclival confederacy, and
well the faction is aware of it; for all its attention is
now turned to Ireland to obtain from thence, by the most
corrupt and impolitic concession of principle, a.counter-
poise to the rising Protestantism of England. Atone
of the most respectable and enthusiastic public dinners,
at which we have had the pleasure of being present,
given in the borough of Marylebone in the early part of
the year, his Grace the Duke of Newcastle, on rising to
return thanks for the honour of the toast, which coupled
his name with the House of Lords, said, " he felt the
difference of the position in which he was at that moment
placed, as the guest of the company assembled, compared
with that in which he stood'a very few years ago. At
the period to which he alluded, no-one in that district
would have dared to invite him to his table; but thanks
to the good feeling and the returning good sense of his
fellow countrymen matters were then so much altered,
that he could happily show himself in the midst of that
respectable company, by which he was surrounded." It
must be borne in mind, that this referred to the improved
state of opinion in one of the strongest holds of 'radical
and Whig domination. And why should the Duke of
Newcastle, one of the best private characters in this
kingdom, as a moral man—a Christian and a Peer, be
deprived of the utility and the gratification of meeting
any portion of his fellow citizens of the state in social
harmony, and in celebration of pure national feeling ?
If the higher aristocracy of this country need conviction,

on any point of policy which may be assumed to be at
variance with the interests of the popular classes, let
that conviction be the result of reason, not the forced

effect of clamour and false theory. The interests of the
Peers are blended 'with the interests of the entire people;
and the salvation of Britainis at this moment dependent
on the union and good understanding now cementing

between the nobility and the intelligent classes, which
will present an invulnerable barrier against oligarchical
whiggery and radical dismeinberment ; and eventually.
restore the national confidence and prosperity.

The Rev. Hugh M'Neile has addressed a letter to the
Rev. Thomas Maguire on the subject 'of his late challenge
to the Protestant clergy of this town. This able minis-
ter, whose fearless exposures of the errors and iniquities
of the Church of Rome, and zeal in the defence of Pro-
testantism, has subjected him to every species of calumny
and abuse that malice could invent, has come for Ward and
avowed his willingness to meet the " triumphant defen-
der of Catholicism," in public controversy, on the doc •
trines of their respective churches. The terms upon
which he proposes to accept Mr. Maguire's ehallabge are
at once fair and reasonable—he expressly states " that Mr.
Maguire must exculpate himself from the charge of for-
gery preferred against him by the Rev. Mr. Nolan, and
thus render himself worthy of admittance" into an ho-
nourable arena where the love of truth is the avowedly
animating motive of both parties." Mr. Maguire is,
therefore, fairly put upon his defence, and is bound to
answer the charge brought against him, or he cannot ex-
pect that any gentleman will condescend to meet him lit
the controversial arena. The charge aifects his character
as a minister of religion, as a gentleman, and a
scholar;. and, if he shrinks from boldly and honestly'
meeting it, the public will form their own opinion of his
empty boast, and adjudge him guilty of prevarication ,and
falsehood, in his oft repeated expression of willingness.
to meet every opponent, and answer every charge. Mr.
APN,RiIe has very judiciously resolved to conduct the con-
troversy through the medium of the press, as a greater
degree of practical good will result to the public from
written statements, which are open to reference and exa-
mination, than from the momentary excitement produced'
by an appeal to the passions or prejudices of their hewers.
Our contemporary of the Journal observes that Mr.
.1414 Neile attaches toe much importance to the charge
brought against Mr. Maguire, by Mr. Nolan. We re-
ply, that the charge of using forged documents knowing
them Is be forged, cannot be treated too gravely. ft is
of vital importance. The man who is guilty of it in a
transaction of this world's business becomes ipso facto
excommunicated from the society of gentlemen. The
man who is guilty of it in theological controversy, ought,
at the least, to confess his fault, and appear before the
church as a penitent, before he can be admissible to the.
society of christians.

Under certain circumstances there may, doubtless, be
special advantages attending an Mal diScussion ; but for
their attainment it is absolutely indispensible that both
parties should reverance Reveltion ; that both parties
s'Aould love truth rather than victory : and thus be pre-
served from the treachery of him, Who, while he kissed
his Master in apparant zeal and love, was in the act of
betraying him to 14€ invetrate enemies. 7.
If, under existing circumstances. Mr. Maguire shrinks
from a written discussion, it can only be because he de-
pends more upon the temporary effect of a personal
(perhaps reckless) exhibition, than on the intrinsic
weight and permanent influence of sound argument. If
this be so, the people of Liverpool, and the public
generally, will know how to appreciate his vaunt-
ings as a controversialist. That Mr. Magalire will
avail himself of this very fair proposition we very
much doubt. We have had an opportunity of attending
his lectures in this town, and observed, with infinite dis-
gust, the low cunning, the vulgar wit, and the coarse sa-
tire, with which he sought to gain the applause of his
deluded hearers, avid the glaring falsehoods and misre-
presentations made use of to conceal the deformities add
iniquities of his own church. Through the medium of
the press, every subject can be carefully analysed-11°
appeal to the degraded passions or to prejudice will be
regarded as of equal weight with soulrid arguments—a°
that species of contemptible buffoonery which Mr. Ma"
guire usually indulges in, to excite a laugh, or create a
cheer, will be carefully avoided. The courtesy of the
gentleman, the erudition of the scholar, and the faithfulness of the christian minister must be blended together
in defence of their principles, to possess any weight Org:
fluence with the reflecting part of the community. ,:
position in which Mr. Maguire is now placed is, perllV•
the most degrading that can be imagined. Aceus4cl P.P
the one hand of direct forgery and falsehood.;- and eal:3be
O ter, encountering a formidable opppirnt in the isOn