The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1847-03-02 00:00:00

THE CAMBRIAN SOCIMY.
Mc a large "'timber ,af theAnembers, of 4.
id-their frieteds,,,sat down to an

toot, ,41,1,(4.otimptuotis!einner,
of ifiltgr. Chas. Leeoham's, New York-Hotel, bottom
ese From eighty to aiinety;gentlemen vr.or
Rod were, detikhtfully entertained throughout
the oe g°o4 management and the general. enthusiasm :o
criG".
liato: • G.'"WILLIAmsr. ably presided.; --
The wai.efroa,lly efflcient as vice-chairman ; .and amongst
Hugh 1713PanyAre observed the Revs..J.,Griftiths, William
(!1e 11.,,„'-es, of S. David's, D. James, of Kirlcdale, and other
tiCban'en, &e. • a the laity, Thomas Lewis, Thoina.s
Jelotionee E.: J. Jones, —.Glynn, IL Thomair.
- • and Mr. Afarhh, surgeon of the
n, Mr. William

cicietv

he Jame and .ela

Mr. John:NULL.

gen,

sur&

_ . ___„,„ratifying_ report was then :road:—
10,,' rhea/no:tint:received in the last twelve •months, £l7l
t5O ;. paaiwci.forstickand attend-au co, £159 65...0d.1,f0rf-unerals,
0 _of funds in hand between ,X3oo.and £4OO.
f those receirivE7 benefit during -
The nnmbieT
three ni..mbers alittess, 37.
be at 11.97 4 ;—namu!y, „fallantiOUßC,,a‘ftelialrr 's
;vile. None-members admitted, 7;

Lot yet elected

ion of the Cambrian .Society, fort}
of ,:C4,687_..16.5. 9d., has en,aid
illness. and £1,595 for The xnterment

.oasts I

latti;nor

-reee
4i.. lr. ett 1%

they scarcely knew what to touch upon first—whether to '
trace its antiquity, or to dwell upon its expressiveboss
and sublimity. (Hear, hear.) Would they see the
sublimity of Homer combined with the. elegance of Virgil
—would they see the elegance, the ease and nwtetness of
the historian of Halicarnassus, combined With the fire,
the conciseness, and the energy of Thucydides, read Welsh
prose. Where among modern speakers and orators did
they find the thunders of the mighty Athenian equalled ?
they were no where to be found, if they did not sometimes
accompany Welsh oratory. They saw this in the thun-
derbolt effect often produced in their Welsh meetings, and,
he was sure, the thrilling sensations produced at St. David's
Church, that morning and the previous day, would fully
bear him out in this. 'He here alluded in glowing terms
to the well known talents of Mr. Griffiths, the preacher of
the day. Their language, he said, was so dear to them,
however others might scoff at it, and compare it to an im-
becile old woman, requiring the antiquarians and the old
dames of Aferioneth, for nurses, that they ventured to pre-
dict, that as long as the sun shines over Snowdon, and as
long as the breezes fan the hills of Cambria, or the stars
.twinkle over its talleys, so long shall the old " Cymraeg "
be in existence. The conduct of the Welsh at that seri-
ous crisis spoke volumes for their character—the des-
titution in Wales was nearly equal to that in Ireland
or Scotland, whet did they see ? Others were character-
ized by their usual obtrusive forwardness, and the Welsh

uffereil in silence, yea many of them were sinking without
a intin rut 'to their graves,• rather than prey like 'harpies
on their -fdllow-men. Others '•will not dig, and are not
shamed-to beg. The Welsh will dig, at are 'ashamed
o beg., 'When they considered the artless simplicity of
he 'natives of the Principality, their unadorned piety,
- try, their unparalleled hospitality;—When they
,he said, that every house there was-en asylum
and every-mother a matron, they wo-ald not be far out of
place in using the words of the poet, and-saying—
" They would not change firth' native land,
For rich Peru with all ter gold;

their inOt

considers-

A nobler prize lies in our hand,
Than East and Western Indies hold."
The health of the Rev Mr. "GatFt,rrits, the preacher
-of 'the day, having been heart* giVen, that gentleman
'reK-urned thanks in elegant "terms' Stating that he tad
-come from South Waks on a very brief notice, and'that
though he was a perfedt stranger in this part of the
nintry, he was at enee-deiighted anti astonished iby the
1;,,1n,TA, as regarded the

Welsh a

a stran

•his oven

concluded by readinb-,'smne verses
composition, in the 'Welsh lanolze

feelino or

gave great delight.to :Jill the Cambrian linguists present,,
and we regret that not knowing 'that expressive, and, we
believe, empltatic ond poetical language, we twnnot sup-
ply a translation. -The speaker was most enikusiastically
cheered.

On the kealtir nF the Rev. Va.. JAMES, of S:irkciale, be
jug given, thatrgentleman refied in e

and foribt

led to the

bli;slide conduct of

Wales (as in who demi

hardly with •tl
ni,li.

as into immenseirlarge ones, to

the respect
were const

)f whom

lily forc
lands.

to obtair

:ence, to etr

an inteus€

:leir

f the gover

ig of The Cli
(MI

uenee, the revs

xen in the 'Welsh% laiguag,

"The Queen

as most

CORN IgARRET

p_rodu

but ,tbut of
Coastvise,

Ley woulc

night f

He hoped that
tion, and thit

like those smucti

.$) a—but

ail, thai Ile h

and it

3 aridness by reegpitulatingi his
orgt rnentS' that*ere employed
Lnd, clone so, he pro-

Du ot

sides, these things proved most eearly that the power of '
putisament wai not in the hands of the civil magistrate;
but in the Lord himself. The passage was :—" Will a
man "Pob God ? *Yet ye have robbed me. But say ye
wherein have we robbed thee NP In tithes and offerings.
Ye are cursed with a curse : for ye have robbed me even
this whole nation." To. every thoughtful reader of the
word of God, it would occur how they were to account
for this divine threatening and judgment against those
who refused to bring their offerings into the temple of the
Lord, if there had been any intelligent magistracy in
whose hands these things -had been entrusted. They
km* that at present the power of the law was all
aufficient to overtake any offender against the church
endowment act. At the present time they needed
no threatening from Heaven. They needed no curses
f.A.oni the mouth of the Most High to be pronounced
against them ; for they were sufficiently punished for
their recusance, althotrgb now they were not robbing
God, but only infringing on the temporal laws of the
state. That, however, they would not be allowed to do
with impunity ; for the state would force their exactions
from them, (Heat, hear.) The whole tendency of this
agreement went to prove these two points :—First, That
the union of ch-tirch and state in Judea, under the old
dispensation, was exhibited in that very aspect that
good, holy, ;pious, and religious churchmen most re-
pudiate, as being intolerant, and not under that
aspect to which they would look up as a model
for the maintenance of Christ's gospel on earth ;
and secondly, that the civil power never was employed to
make the maintenance of the Church of Judea compul-
soryon the people. He would now proceed to points of a
more positive kind, and in doing so he contended that all
expenseuttending the divine worship of God under the
Jewish dispensation was maintained entireky by the volun-
tary priveiple. They had some of the most extraordinary
exhibitions of the effects of the voluntary principle under
the Old Testament dispensation. In the 25th Exodus ist
and 2nd verse, they found it stated that " the Lord spake
Unto Moses, saying, speak unto the children of Israel,
that they bring me an offering, and every man that,giveth
it -willingly with his heart, ye shall take my offering."
-And in the 36th chapter of the same in. the 2d and Sol vs.
they found it related that Moses called Bezaleel, and
Aholiab, and every wise hearted man, in whose heart the
Lord had put his wisdom, -even every one whose heart
stirred him up to came unto the work to do it. And they
received of Moses #ili the offering which the children of
' Israel had brought, for the work of the service of the
Sanctuary, and to make it withal, and they brought yet
unto him free offerings •.every morning. (Cheers., And
again in the bailing atilt, Temple they 'had another
striking instanoe .of the effects of the volentary princi-
ple. 'ln the 29th chapter of the First Book of Chroni-
cles, they had an example of David in this matter.
It was stateel there:—` Now I_tave prepared with

all my naight for -the house of 'nay God the gold
for things to be made of gold, and the silver for
things of silver, 'and •the brass for 'things of brass,

I have set my 'a-ffc

of iron. and 'wood fOr things of

In to the house

mine 0 W propengood of gold and saw,.
to the house of inyfJod, over and above au i ti
for the holy house," And in the reign of Ki

related in the-111Ca chapter of the-li Book of C

hey had saintlier striking illustration of the power, the
sagiaitede, and •the efficiency of the voluntary principle
fairly applied to the support of the church
He -had, he conceived, offered them strong

when I
Gcd.

that the per of the mag,istral
Moscic dispensation, in ord

I evidence to Aow
was employed under the

to

•ce-- corformity in -the mode in which the people
should worship God. That their power-was not exercised
for the support or maintenance of the priesthood. And
he conceived that all the .passages of the sacred writ-
ings, whieh4:.had any referenco to the matter at issue,
-strongly‘ pointed out to them that the voluntary ,prim
circle was- ti

principle then acted upon by the 'people.
j (Hear, bear.) They knew that recusance in the case of
nnupaytnent of tithes was not looked after 'by
and bhev also knew full well that

il
`the civil

the chtuiih,. under the ofd dispensation
sistOd by the state in order to enforce her mist
the2people.. Aiul they were also aware,
.clear, that the magisterial rower of the state wasther
anly-exercised for tle purpose of enforcing confonriity it
matters bf. faith. - (Ulcers.) After some few otheroler•

as not as-

vations in support of the .above argumeni
sumedi his seat amid wrichlapplause.
. Theaex. J. BA:YLEE th'en rose, and was received mid

He sadthathe would begin his silt

the ~proceedings of the evening by observing that he
thonght.',-, the primary duty of the pleaders to keep to the
subject before the meeting,i; and, therefore, whena dial-
' lenge xws thrown down to him at the last meeting, he.
did:not, .think it right then to take it up ~—(a.pplause)—.
butalthough that meetinvwas assembled foronepurpose,
why, at a fitting. opportunity, he:
(Hear, ,hear.)--]

siteorair-:
The.: kto

State

the other question

lurch -Association had sent ,down a
rpoCl,-nand from that deputation the
eseat.;discussion had emanated. He
gentleman who was chair-
'as the intention of theAsso-

challenge of the
had-been told by the rowed<
man-fei' Mr. Miall, that

ciutionA-4,send deputations to all parts of the ,e ii
refore he thought =t right to send to London,
I to argue from the centre, this challenge, exp
sive:of his willingness to meet any gentleman whoa► t

pant the

Vile Rev

point in that Teit

litleinici then

(Loud cheers.)—
Aollowing paper, which 3

is conchision, he handed the paper to kr

.cantirtued cheers