The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-11-08 00:00:00

.No v. 8, 1836,

TOWN COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS.

ELEcTION• OF DOCK TRUSTEES.
Yesterday a special meeting of the Town-council was held for
the purpose of electing thirteeo hock Trustees from the mem-
bers of the council, in the room of thirteen of the dock committee
who ceased, on the Ist of Nov., tc be trustees.
The MaYoit said the object of their present special council
was for the purpose of Sleeting thirteen gentlemen on the dock
committee 'to replace those gentlemen, who, on the first of the
mouth, ceased to act for the trust. The town-clerk would ex-
plain to them the object of this.
The TowN-cLetix then said the municipal reform act having
provided, that the thirteen members of the dock committee,
Vaosen by the late council, should cease to act on the lst of
November, it was now- for the council to elect thirteen from
their own body to serve as members forahe dock trust, in pur-
suance of the terms of the dock act. The effect of the munici-
pal reform act being the removal of the members of the Deck
Committee, the vacancies were now to be filled up, according
to the provisions of that act, whether caused by death,
resignation, lawful removal," &c., and each gentleman
elected. roust have the name of the person in whose stead be
i 5 eledted mentioned, so that hereafter the order of seniori-
ty may' be preserved in the same way as it the ordinary
Members had remained in office. The proper course would be
tic other members to be elected separately, and that each should
be elected in lieu of the former members of the committee.
The TowN-cLettx then read over the vacancies caused by
the removal of the late members of the committee, and the
ttme that each member had to serve on the committee, Which
will be found.below in the nomination of candidates. Having
one through the vacancies, he said there were five members to
be elected to remain iu office till 18-13; four till 1840; and four
till 1837. "A chairman would then have to be elected after the
members were chosen.
Mr. Councillor BATHRONTi, in the performance of the duty he
Was now called on to execute, begged to moveahe. appointment
of the committee; and he would give in a listof names selected
to "go down" as dock committee men. Of course following
the rule laid down by the-town-clerk; each member must be
balloted, for, and if any gentleman objected to the names which
Were put down, it was at hiS option to do so. He must state
that this selection of names had been made from those gentle-
men who would maintain the supremacy of the town of Liver-
pool in the management of their own affairs. It would hardlY
be necessary for him to vindicate such a'measure, or to State
who the selection were. In taking such a course it was very
different new, when the council really represented the inhabi-
tants'of Liverpool from' what it was when a self-eiected; and hie-
sPonsihle body of 41- ,At that time there were conflicting iaL
tereste, and between these the interests of thettiwn of Liverpool
—at least in his opinion and in the opinion of Seni6 of,them—
were totally sacrificed. It was then very :desirable, that there
should be some infusion of the representative system; they
Iv..ere glad to do what was in their -powerfor the rate payers.
Ent to say that the rate-payers were capable of managine the
estate, as well say he was capable of taking the management of
Mr. Brethertnit'e Mail which carried him. He would net'enter
further into the question :_he should: not wish at that moment
to excite any angry feelings, or detract. This much he had
t!bought it right to state. He would therefore beg leave to put
hif list of names. ,111 r. Rathbone then read over and handed
in a list of names to be proposed in lieu of the retiring duck
committee. Each name will' be found, as propoSed seriatim,
below..:,
The Tows-ci.eart said the. chairman, whenever elected,
would bi elected for six years, according to the act.
„Mr.,Councillor H. LAWRENCE would propose that Mr. Lea-
"les who was nominated in the list as chairman, should be
laPPointed'ipeeitilly as such, and not only chosen from the 13
'members to be elected; because, ifso, it might be 'the turn of
the lateinem.ber of the dock committee, whose place he was
elected to till; to go out of office in six months, and that being
the ease it would be a' mere compliment to Mr. Leathom, as he
would thee have to retire. .
The- roivN-aL'ERK then, at considerable length, went over
the dates of the various members going out of the committee,
when their term of office would expire; and dwelt at consider-
ehle length on-the election of Mr. Hollingshead as tate chair-
teen of the dock committee, but the object and gist of which we
could not understand, further than that by law the business of
the council would be, after electing 13 duck committee men, to
'sleet a chairman to serve for six years from the present period.
Mr. Alderman BROWN moved that the first five members of
the committee to be elected for the longest period should be
elected at once.
The Mayon Said they must be elected separately to be la-
Nally elected. •
The TOWN-CLERK then said the first person to be elected
from the list would be a member of the council in the place of
Mr. Robertson Gladstone, who, without the interference of the
Inonicipal act, would have had to serve till the 3d of August,
1843:

e Mr. Councillor H. LAWRENCE begged to propose Mr. Thos.
Leath= to fill the office.
Mr, Councillor RATHBONE seconded that.
The MAYOR then put the question.—Agreed to.
The. TOWN-CLERK said the next on the list was a gentleman
to serve instead of Mr. Win. Earle, jug., who would have to
serve till the 3rd of August, 1843.
Mr. °outwitlor RATHBONE, seconded by Mr. Logan, begged
to propose Mr. Thomas Booth.—Agreed to.
Mr. Councillor RATHBONE, seconded by Mr. Morecroft, then
begged to propose Mr. Alderman Berm, in the room of Mr,
Samuel Saudbach, to serve for the same period as the last.—
Agreed to.
My, •CoillitillOT RATEIBONE, seconded by Mr. Alderman
Barclay, begged to propose Mr. J. Hornby, in lieu of Mr Thus.
Case, to serve till 1813.—Agreed to.
Mr: .Councillor RATHBoNE, seconded by Mr. Councillor
Jordan, begged teepropose Mr. Alderman vans, to serve in-
stead of Mr. W. Ripley, till 1840.
, Me. Councillor JAMBE HEYWORTN rose to perform a very
invidious rend unpleasant task.. In doing so, he begged to ob-
serve„That he did not mean to disparage the proposition which
had been made, that Mr. Evans should be elected on the dock
committee. He did not mean to say that lie was not well quali-
fied far such a situation, but his acquaintance with Mr. Evans
did not enable him to speak of him with as much satisfaction
as he should like to do; and he was not going to give his vote
an the occasion on mere negative evidence, inasmuch as ho
had in hi's- mind's eye an individual more competent to (Es--
charge the duties of the situation than the gentleman who had
beet' nominated. He would not detain them further, than
!imply to state, that he was determined, so long as he remained
to that council, to know nothing amongst them, but to be
actuated by the simple desire!of promotingithe interests of the
town' with impartiality. He concluded with proposing Mr.
Charles Lawrence, as an amendment.
Mr. Councillor J. N. Wool:, begged to second the amendment,
end in doing so begged to concur in what had been said by Mr.
Heywood. The rate-payers and electors out of doors were
greatly in favour of Mr. Lawrence. He thought that if Mr.
Lawrence was not Sent from that council as one of the Dock
-Committee, over which he had sat as chairman for thirteen
Yearsethe council would be actuated (and it seemed to him to
hint to be'so) by party and political motives, and not by the
consideration of the well-being of the town.
'lle MAYOR then proceeded to take the division on the
amendment, when there appeared for the amendment Messrs.
leyworth, R. Houghton, W.'Shand, J. Barton, J. Bibby,
J. N. Wood, H. Lawrence, E. Cropper, and J. Smith; against
the amendment, Messrs. W. Stuart, T. Booth, J. Hornby, E.
Evans, W. BiOwn, T. Smith, C. H. Jones, T. Bulley, W. P.
Prerne, T. B. Barclay, G. Robinson R. Benn, J. Holmes, S.
Hope, C. Logan, W. Thornhill, E. Harvey, E. Smith, C. Raw-
den, A. M`Gregor, J. Mellor, H. Holmes, S—Heyworth, T.
Bolton, J. Walmsley, C. Birch, H. Bright, JeWooiright, W.
i Rushton, H. Hornby, W. Rathbone, C. Lawrence, W. Max-
well, W. Lassell, T. Brocklebank, J. Carscin, V. Higgins, T.
Morecroft, 'l'. Blackburn, J. Mason, T. Coglan, G. Holt, F.
Jordan, J. Cropper, jun., J. Platt, G. Rarnsden, W. W. Currie,
and W. M. Duncan.
For the amendment; 9 ; against it, 48. Absent, Messrs. T.
Leathern, W. Blain, J. Moon, 0. Heyworth, J. Lawrence, W.
Large, jun., and J. S. Leigh.
The MAYOR, having taken the division for the motion with
The same reeulte declared Mr. Byre Evans duly elected.
MrelPiouncilkweßATHßNE here rose.. He said he should
like tiycbserve in answerO to what an hon. member had said,
that.ehis was tneele entirely a party question"—he thought it
Was ageeed that such reflections 'ought not to he cast. As one
L(4 three generations in the town of Liverpool, he had the well-
"eiPg the town as much at heart as those who had not been

ao long in it.
Mr. Councillor. 11.,LAWRENCE said, in answer to that, Mr.
Rathbo'ne bad said that he mentioned names of a 'particular
description, fur the committee, therefore his present observation
Was not so particularly called fer.
The Mavoa would take the liberty of saying that they should
Ost occupy more time than was necessary in speechifying, as he
tiad to atterula meeting_of the ratepayers at one o'clock.
Mr. Councillor RATHBONE then, seconded by Mr. JOSEPH
HORNBY, pioposed Mr. Alderman Barclay, to serve in the place
of Sir George Drinkwater till 1840.
Mr:Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE begged
,to move as an
amendment, Mt. Charles*Bireh.
Mr. Councillor BIRCH begged to decline, the honour. It
Would interfere with his" other avocations.
Dlr. Councillor iIENRY LAWRENCE begged tomove Mr. John
Crupper, jun:, as an amendment.
Mr. Councillor Ji):it,t Caoeper. begged to decline.
Mr, Corincillor J. 'N. WOOD begged to propose Mr. James
•
11eyWortli.
Mr. Councillor JA'Nrr,:s Ileywonnt begged to decline, as in
his opinion it was of no use being nominated.
Mr. Councillor HANKY LAWRENCE begged to propose a gen-
tleman who had much distinguished himself, and whose worth
and value they had all seen. He would propose Mr. William
Wallace Currie.
The MAYOR begged to thank them; but it was utterly impos-
sible for him to accept the office. He had more to do in his own
business than he could attend to along with the dirties of that
office, and, after the past year, he must attend a little more
closely.
The election of Mr. Alderman Barclay was then agreed to.
„,.Mr. Councillor RATHBONE, seconded by. Mr. Councillor H.
Wright,
begged to propose Mr. Bowdon, in lieu of Mr. John
Wright, to serve till 1840.—Agreed to.
Mr. Councillor gaTnnorrx, seconded -by Mr. Alderman
1113 ART begged to propose Mr. George Holt, in lieu of Sir
'ohn Tobin, to, serve till 1840.—Agreed to.
Mr. Councillor Ita'roßONa, seconded by Mr. Councillor JAR-
kr,T, begged to,propose Mr. Alderman Blain, in lieu of Mr.
tiarles Horsfall, to serve till 1810.
Mr, Councillor JOHN SMITH, seconded by Mr. Councillor
BURTON,,- begged to propose, as au amendment, Mr. John
'"ibby, as an extensive merchant in the town.
Mr. Councillor Busay.—" I mustbeg to decline the honour."
The election-of Mr. Blain was then agreed to.
Mr. Councillor RATHBONE, seconded by Mr. Councillor
.LATT, egged to .pin ropose Mr. Higgins,lieu of Mr. I. 0.
.uold, to be serve till 1837..
Mr. Councillor J. N. WOOO, begged to propose, as an amend-
Ment, Mr. Alderman Brown.
Mr. Alderman BROWN said, that having served eight years in
the (Ace he must beg to decline, as his other avocations fully
occupied his time.
,Mr. Councillor BIBBY begged to propose, as an amendment,
'II. Shand:

1V r.Councillor SHAND said, that under the peculiar circum-
Itahcesin which they were placed, he should beg to decline the
honour,-as it was evident it would be only taking up the time of
That
council. He wasquitesure that they all must have observed
That their time need not be taken up with yotinc, upon it.
'1 he election of Mr. Higgins was then agreeSto.
Mr.: Councillor RATIIBONE, seconded by Mr. Councillor
r Logan, begged to propose Mr. Brocklebank, in lieu of Mr. C.
3/44wrence, to serve till 1831.—Agreed to.
t Mr. Councillor 'RATH nolvz, seconded by Mr. Councillor Bol-
,P,nkege-e,l to propose Mr. Joshua Walinsley, in lieu of Mr.
":',3l,;;Littledale, to serve till 1837.
a,*.r. Councillor Su AND begged to propose Mr. J. N. Wood
1- an arttendtnent,'Which was seconded by Mr. Councillor H.
"lwreace.
I\ir. COnocillor J. N. Woon said it would be perfectly useless
ht) go to the vote on the quetdion ; and for the same reasons as
hlino i,en stater! by Mr. Shand, he should beg to decline the
Thettitection of Mr. Valmsley was then agreed to.
eo;anci;:ir,r RATilauNi, seconcle4 by Mr. Alderman Ro-
leon:62ed to propoie Alekander 11‘Gregor, In lieu of
• Jelin Bourne, to serve till 1837.