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TIIE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

the service of the Rev. Mr. Anderson. I hired in the service of
Mrs. Norton as housemaid, in 1833. 1 sometimes attended

Mrs. Norton as lady's maid. I was in the plaintiffs service
about seven months • during that time Lord Melbourne was fre-
quently coining to the house in Storey's-gate. He generally
came between two and three o'clock, and staid an hour, or
more I was told never to go into the drawing-room when
Lord Melbourne was there. I once tried to open the drawing-
room door, hut found it locked. I cannot say that Lord Mel-
bourne was there. 1 have known Mrs. Norton come up stairs
to arrange her dress at the time Lord Melbourne was there;
her collar and hair were tumbled on these occasions, which she
put to rights and washed her hands. Mrs. Norton was in the
habit of " rougeing" very much. I have very frequently taken
notes from Mrs. Norton to send to Lord Melbourne. I have
also taken in notes from his lordship to Mrs. Norton. Lord
Melbourne generally came after the notes were sent.
Cross-examined by the Attorney-General.--When Lord Mel-
bourne called, Mrs. Norton always went up stairs to arrange
her dress. His lordship called almost every day. I went into
the plaintiff's service in April, 1833, and left in September.
During all that time Lord Melbourne did not call less than six
times a week.
The Attorney-General.—What aged man should you suppose
Lord Melbourne to be?
Witness.—Not more than 45.
The Attorney-General.—Did his lordship ever kiss you,
Eliza ? (Laughter.)
Witness.—No, never. (Laughter.)
The Attorney :General.--Never took any improper liberty ?
Witness.---No.
The Attorney-General.—l am glad of it.
Witness continued—Mrs. Norton often used to ask me to get
her dressing articles; she used to say, " Eliza, I am swing to
rouge." I have often seen her put on the rouge, nearly every
day. Many other noblemen and gentlemen called at plaintiff's
house during the time I lived there. I do not know who was
in the drawing-room at the time I attempted to open the door
and found it fastened. I was first examined on this business by
Mr. Norton, last Wednesday; it was in Lincoln's Inn-fields.
Re-examined.—Mr. Curry, Mr. Norton's solicitor, was pre-
sent when I was examined by Mr. Norton.
By the Jury.—There were two beds in Mr. Norton's sleep-
ing-room; plaintiff and Mrs. Norton sometimes slept together,
not always.
Thomas Balliman examined.—l lived in plaintiff's service in
1833 for one month. I lived previously with Colonel Armstrong.
Miss Armstrong was intimate with Mrs. Norton, and frequently
called at Storey's-gate in her carriage. The carriage used to
stop some time at the door; if the blinds of the drawing-room
were not down I could see into the room. When the blinds
were down Miss Armstrong was not admitted; she was told
Mrs. Norton was not at home. Miss A. called again after-
wards, when I perceived the blinds were up. Mrs. Norton was
then at home, and Miss Armstrong let in. When Mrs. N. has
been denied I have inquired of two servants, named Tucker
and Maurice, who told me she was at home. Mrs. Norton has
frequently, when she went out in the carriage with Miss A.,
called at Lord Melbourne's residence in South-street. Mrs:
Norton desired me to ask if his lordship was at home,, and if he
was she used to go into the house. 111rS.'Norton, addressing
Miss Armstrong, used to say, " Sophia, have you got a call to
make, or will you take a drive whilst I go in to speak to his
lordship ?" Miss Armstrong sometimes used to drive away al-
together, at other times she would call for Mrs. Norton in about
twenty minutes. Lord Melbourne frequently visited at plain-
tiff's during the time I lived there. Mrs. Norton desired me
not to let any one in during the time his lordship was there.
Mrs. Norton never told me not to go into the drawing-room
when Lord Melbourne was there. I did, on two occasions, go
into the room—on one occasion Lord M. and Mrs. N. were sit-
ting on the sofa together. His lordship had his hand on Mrs.
Norton's shoulder; he gently drew it off when I went in. On
the other occasion they appeared confused, and Mrs. Norton's
hair seemed disordered. I have frequently taken notes for Mrs.
Norton to Lord Melbourne at the Home-office, and brought
answers from his lordship back. Lord Melbourne generally
called at Storey's-gate shortly after the receipt of a note.
Cross-examined.---1 was only in the plaintiff's service one
month, When I went into the drawing-room, on the two occa-
sions I have mentioned, I had not been called. I went in with
notes. Miss Armstrong. is a lady of high character. I once
remember Mr. N. meeting Mrs. N. at Lord Melbourne's in
South-street. I never recollect seeing Mr. Norton in South-
street more than once; he met Mrs. Norton at the door of Lord

Melbourne's house, and they went out together. lam not posi-
tive whether Mr. and Mrs. Norton left the house together. Lord
Melbourne dined at the plaintiff's three or four times during the
month I lived in his service. Mr. Norton and other gentlemen
dined with her ladyship on those occasions. Ido not remember
Lord Melbourne going to the theatre with Mrs. Norton. I once
remember Miss Armstrong taking Mrs. Norton in her carriage
to the Duke of Devonshire's, and left her there. Mr. N. was
not with her.

Re-examined.—lt was a dinner party at the Duke of Devon-
shire's on the day we took Mrs. Norton to Devonshire House.
Thomas Tucker, examined by Mr. Bailey.-1 lived in the
service of Mr. Norton in 1832 and 1833, 1 lived there about six
months. Lord Melbourne was in the habitof visiting there four
or five times a week. He generally stopped nearly two hours.
I received instruction not to admit any one when Lord Mel-
bourne was there. I remember Miss Armstrong calling when
Lord Melbourne was there, and the last witness inquiring how
it was Mrs. Norton was denied. I have seen Mrs. Norton and
Lord Melbourne in the drawing-room; they were sitting near
each other on the sofa. I have often carried notes from Mrs.
Norton to Lord Melbourne, both at the Home-office and South-
street, and brought answers back.

Cro'ss-examined.—Mr. Norton did not return home until be-

tween six and seven o'clock. He had occasionally conic home
as early as three o'clock, to drive Mrs. Norton out. Did not
know the time his duties were over at the (ace. I have heard
Mr. Norton make several appointments to Mrs. Norton to come
and drive her out. Ido not recollect that Mr. Norton ever re-
turned home on those occasions, and found Lord Melbourne at
his house. 1 would not swear be did not. Lord Melbourne
frequently dined with Mr. and Mrs. Norton, and they frequently
went to the play together. The drawing-room is a small room.
The sofa is a large one. Visitors, when they called, frequently
sat on the sofa. Mrs. Norton had flower-pots in the balcony,
which she often attended to. Ido not remember on those occa-
sions that she dirtied her hands, or deranged her dress. Mrs.
Norton was very fond of her children, and used to play with
them very much. I have been out of place three months. I
have not been residing at Wonarsh, near Guildford, the seat of
Lord Grantley. I have not seen Lord Grantley, or been ex-
amined by any one besides plaintiff's.solicitor. I never con-
versed with the witness Balliman as to what we could say on
this trial. After being repeatedly pressed, the witness admitted
that he had talked to Balliman on the subject. Witness was
going into a place, but had not obtained it through the recom-
mendation of Mr. Nortion.

Wm. Lawley examined.—l lived as job coachman with Col.
Armstrong. Have on different occasions driven Miss Arm-
strong and Mrs. Norton to Lord Melbourne's house in South-
street.

Cross-examined.—Did not grumble at taking Miss Armstrong
and Mrs. Norton out so often. It was no use grumbling.—
(Laughter.)
John Flook examined.—l lived as coachman in the service
of Mr. Norton four years. I entered the service in 1830. and
left in March, MI. I was in the habit of opening the door of
plaintiff's house. Saw.
•Lord Melbourne there repeatedly;
sometimes showed his lordship into the drawing-room. Took
notes many times from Mrs. Norton to Lord Melbourne, and
brought answers back. Whenever I was sent out with mes-
sages, I always took up the answer to the drawing-room. On
one occasion I was sent to one of the theatres for a box ticket,
and proceeded up stairs as usual, I knocked once at the door,
and no answer. I knocked again, and there still being no an-
swer, I thought no one was there, so I opened the door and
went in, when I saw Lord Melbourne sittinv, in a chair by the
fireside, with his hands on his knees, looking at Mrs. Norton.
Mrs. Norton was lying on the hearth-rug, with her feet towards
the door. Her clothes were high up. 1 went in; she did not
speak, but bowed to me, which I understood to mean that I was
to withdraw. I went down stairs, but did not mention the cir-
cumstance at the tune to the other servants. Lord Melbourne
did not take his hands off his knees whilst I was in the room.
On another occasion I saw Lord. Melbourne enter the drawing-
room; he said to Mrs. Norton, " Dear Cary, how do you do?"
and she turned round and kissed him.

Cross-examined by the Attorney-General.—Whilst I was in
plaintiff's service, li kept a flv, a cab, and a gig for hire.
I left Mr. Norton's service in 1834, when I sold the cab and
gig. lam a married man. I afterwards kept an old clothes-
shop in Monmouth-street. I have been embarrassed in my
circumstances. I was first called upon to give evidence in this
case about six weeks ago. I was then living in a cellar in
Monmouth-street, but have since left it. I have been living
with my wife and family at Wonash since then. I have been
examined by Mr. Norton, and was afterwards sent to Wonash.
Lord Grantley lives at Wonash. The solicitor gave me Ell)
after I was examined; he has not given me any thing since.—
I left Wonash last night. I staid at the public-house called the
Grantley Arms; there was no other witness there. I never said
that I had been examined by Lord Wynford. I will not swear
that I did not say that I had been under examination nine days,
and that I was sure Mr. Norton would have a verdict on my
evidence. I had a shocking bad place at Mr. Norton's.
The Attorney General.—'!'hen why did you leave ? Were
you not discharged?
Witness.—Yes, I get a drop too much on a court day, and
we always get a little too much on those days, and Mr. and Mrs.
Norton quarrelled; so they spent their spite on me, and dis-
charged me. (Laughter.)
The Attorney General.—You often got a drop too much?
Witness.-1 es, we all do at times. (Laughter.)
The Attorney General.—How often have you got a little too
much during the last four years.
Witness.—Four years ! I cannot answer that question.—.
(Laughter.)
The examination of the witness as to his conduct during the
time he was in Mr. Norton's employ was continued at consi-
derable length, and given in a manner that kept the court in a
roar of laughter. Witness never said he would be revenged of
Mrs. Norton • he might have said that he was the principal wit-
ness against the Premier of England.
The Attorney General.—Did you ever say that if the trial
went right, you should get £S(.X) or £600?
Witness.—Oh dear, bow could I say so ? I do not know what
the gentleman ()dyes. (Laughter.)
By the Court.—Did you, or did you not, say so ?
Witness.—l cannot recollect that ever I said so. Ido not
recollect that 1 ever said that if all went right I should retire to
Scotland and not care for any one. I believe I never did say
so. I may have said that I was employed to fish up all the evi-
dence I could against Lord Melbourne, but I do not recollect.
I know that I told a man named Sly I was going after two per-
sons who could give evidence. I may have also told him that
I had been unfortunate for two years, but I thought this matter
would make me amends. I may have said that I intended to
take care of myself. I thought becoming a witness was better
than mending shoes and selling, old clothes in Monmouth-street.
The Attorney
money to pay to a Mr. Norrington, which you applied to your
General.—Did not Mr. Norton give you some
own use ?

money to pay away,
Witness.—l do not recollect it. (Laughter.) If he gave me
I did so honestly.
The witness underwent a very long cross-examination, in
order to shake the credit of his evidence. He said that he cer-
tainly expected to be paid for his time, but he could not recollect
he said that he should make a good thing of it. When he saw
Lord Melbourne and Mrs. Norton in the position he had de-
scribed, there was a large fire in the room; it must have been
either in the month of November or December. There was a
sofa in the room, but that stood under the window.

Re-examined.--Have been in the army; was at the battle of
Waterloo, and have a pension of Gd. per day. Lived in Mr.
Norton's service four years. Witness had a certificate of good
conduct given him when he left the army.
Ann Cummings examined.-1 was -in the service of Mrs.
Norton two years and three months. I first went in 1831, as a
nurse-maid. I attended upon Mrs. Norton as well as the
children. Lord Melbourne often visited Mrs. Norton; he used
to come four or five times a-week, generally between twelve and
one o'clock. He generally staid about one hour. His lord-
ship continued his visits during the whole time 1 lived with Mrs.
Norton. When he was: there no one was admitted up stairs.
1 remember Mrs. Norton' being confined of her son Brinsley.
Either on the day of her: Confinement or the day after, Mrs.
Norton asked for paper, pen,: and ink, to write to Lord Mel-
bourne. His lordship visited Mrs. Norton about seven days
after her confinement; she scolded witness for not putting
ribbons on her dress sooner. Mri. Norton showed Lord Mer-

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