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HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDAY
The house havihg met, the SPEAKER read the
her Majesty to the address of the house.

nswer of

Papers from the Governor and Comicil of Lower Canada
were laid on the table by Lord J. Russell.
Several notices of motion were given, after. which
Mr. Serjeant TALFOURD moved the order of the day for
the adjourned debate on the motion for leave to bring in a
bill to amend the law of copyright.
Mr. WARBURTON (*posed the bill with the same argu-

ments which he used last year.
Mr. HUME supported Mr. Warburton ; but the motion for
negativing the introduction of the bill was rejected by a ma-
jority of 112.
Lord Joarr RUSSELL then asked leave to bring in a bill
for amending the Poor Law, and continuing the commission

sted against the unconstitutional
oy of the bill. It had been originally
t the great powers the commissioners pos-

iem merely for a temporary purpose, and

he contended that they should not now be renewed. So far
from having produced satisfactory results, he would contend
that the system had introduced confusion into almost every
union in England. The great extent of the unions rendered
it impossible that the law should work well : in the north of
England, especially, it could not be carried out.
Mr. WAKLEY objected to the continuance of the commis-

sion. He wished to know what duty the commissioners were
to do—whether the law was to be in their will or in the sta-
tute book ? H•e held in his hand a book of " amended rules"
from Somerset-house. 'ln that book he found, under the
head discipline and diet," a provision enjoining silence dur-
ing meal-times. The silent system was considered one of
sments in our prisons ; it was now intro-
or-houses. The office he filled gave him
owing'how much the present poor law was
(Ile classes. They consider that you have
tie the workhouse a place for torture instead of protection,
iew to de,ter the poor from asking any assistance.

abhorrence to the only species of
till more strong. He knew of
occurring prone week of persons who preferred
aer than go into the workhouse. They declared
iuld rather die than be separated from their children

in the manner proposed by the new poor law, and they did
die rather than go into the workhouse. What, again, was
the humane system of classification adopted in the Kensing-
ton Union ? There were four houses, that fur fathers at
Kensington, that for mothers at Chelsea, that for daughters
at Fulham, and that for sons at Hammersmith. The unions

_e that paupers must travel a considerable
distance to reach a- workhouse. The parish of Kensington
consisted of 40,000 persons.; but that was not considered
large enough to form one local government, and it was formed
into an union consisting of 120,000, so that the poor had to
travel several miles, from Kensal-green to Kensington, for
instance, before they could apply to the workhouse. There
was no workhouse in the parish of Paddington. In one in-
stance a remarkably fine child, twelve months old, having
been exposed at the door of a house in the Edgeware-road,
was found by a policeman, who took it to the station-house.
It was still alive, although it was in the first week of Decem-
ber. The policeman, however, took two hours to find his
way to the workhouse, and the child died. He would not
divide the house, because he 'wished the law amended ; but
he should oppose the continuance of the commission.
Mr. H. HINDE thought that, though large discretionary
powers were originally necessary, the regulations of the work-
house might now, after the experience of several years, be
properly submitted to a committee.

Sir C. Gtit.Y vindicated the general principle 'of the poor
law. as tending to prevent undue applications for relief; but
he thought it bore too hard on the meritorious poor. To re-
fuse all provision to such a class of sufferers, except on con-
dition of entering a workhouse, did not become a Christian
Inctition," lie lin- i country. He wished to see some power of giving relief in
en to the Sheriff's .j meritorious cases.

Sir F. BURDETT said he had always disapproved the prin-
ciple of the new poor law, as unconstitutional, and repugnant
to the habits and feelings of the people ; and he did not think
the proposed bill could be so framed as to render it a perma-
nent measure, or one which the country ought to adopt.
The system could never be made palatable to the people of
England. Men who loved the public liberty could never be
reconciled to the tribunal at Somerset-house, and it was the
universal feeling, that that at any rate should be abolished.
It was impossible to frame unbending laws for remote places
and unknown circumstances without the greatest mischief.
He thought that parliament had done a most dangerous thing
in introducing so cruel an experiment, and he would support

any motion for its repeal
Mr. HuME urged the gross abuses of the old system, and
the necessity for some such reform as this law had intro-
duced. The rules were not unbending ones—the commis-
sioners had been intrusted with a discretion. Great benefit
had been produced by the law, and the house ought to do
their best for making it still more useful. He doubted, how-
eve
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the expediency of extending the continuance of the
ission to so long a period as ten years.

WHITE seemed to think that the public feeling
ble to the principle of the poor law.
erted that opinion. What was
t principles was too apt to lead to unjust
mid oppose the continuance of the commis-
years, or even for one.

Lord J. RUSSELL observed, that it would of course be for
e house to determine the duration of the commission. It

been the easiest caurse for himself to let the

_.......,,tuners expire; but he thought his
duty required him to deal positively with so important a
subject. The labouring classes must depend on wages, on
public relief, or on private charity. The old system con-
founded all these, and put the honest and industrious on a
level with the idle and vicious ; and it pretended to do that
by public relief which only private charity could effect. It
-^‘, for the r•'-°-' -,ws to be charitable at the ex-

ris did not create the mutual

The amendment of

had proceeded, therefore, upon the principle that
be a just reward for labour : and thereupon it
y found that persons, before regarded as idle and

lie industrious and useful. The wise princi-
the act of the 43d of Elizabeth, which distin-
lief of destitution from the wages of work. To
imendment of a system so essentially vicious,
a necessity for assistant as well as fbr general coin-

missioners. Lord Althorp had proposed to Make the ex-
periment under those commissioners for five years ; but had
not intimated that their office was necessarily to determine at
the end of that period. He should be deceiving the house if
he were to hold out that there was any intention on the part
of governMent to propose any considerable alteration or re-
laxation in the main principles of the existing system.

The venerable Earl Grey continues quietly located at his
seat, Howick, in this county, in the enjoyment of excellent
health, and surrounded by s4veral members of his family.
So little regard has the noble lord for the Melbourne admi-
nistration, whose measures he is not slow to condemn, that

to town, and

countenance and sup-

ELOPEMENT.—We are sorry to find that the rumours dur-
ing the past week, about a certain builder and a fair lady,
who lately sung before several large audiences at some con-
certs given in this town, proves too true. Independent of a
exerted,, we understand that many of our trades-
considerable sufferers. It appears to be one of
ceptive cases (even of its kind) we ever remern-
heard of. America is said to be the destination
!s.—Birmingham paper.--[ln the Ten Towns'
Ter we find it stated that the parties are Mr. Inston
-chiller. It says—the perfidy and scoundrelism
an, and the hypocrisy, ingratitude, and base-
ller,aile unparalleled. The last act of
as to take a valuable ring from -her finger

this German strumpet, expressed in one
paramour, found in a pocket-book he ac-
d, him. A meeting of Inston's creditors
I a fiat in bankruptcy has been issued
petitioning creditor is Mr. Ainsworth,
:;turer, ; and Mr. Harrison,
is retained to work the commission. Two days
before he absconded the Rev. Mr. Nunns paid Inston a check
on Messrs. Taylors and Loyds, for £260, for which he re-
ceived sovereigns at the bank. It has been ascertained that
Inston and Madame Schiller, on arriving in London, again
changed the names they had assumed on leaving Birmingham
to Mr. awl Mrs. Godin. Mr. Blews, the warm-hearted and
generous friend who has rendered himself liable to a very
large amount for Inston, by accepting bills for him, has
offered X5O reward for his apprehension ; and it is said that
the creditors intend to offer a further reward of £5O. We
sincerely hope that the heartless scoundrel may be appre-
hended, and the ends of justice obtained against him, and
that his punishment may be commensurate with bis criannali-
ty.l