The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1854-05-23 00:00:00

ROUSE OF LORDS.-FRIDAY, MAY 19..

avy Pay and the Manning the Navy Bills were
~.,I,lght up from the House of Commons, and severally
,'„d4., a first time. Several bills were read a third time,
-"u passed.
the
bake of NEWCASTLE, in answer to a question from
,81;'e Earl of MA.LMESBITRY, replied that the. government
Were neither in a position to deny nor to corroborate the
„„,I,th of the report as to the loss of the Tiger steam fri-
bte., at Odessa.
.4.,44e report of the amendments on the Church Building
It„'endment Act was, on the motion of the Earl of HAR-
-1713T, received.
th'ord STANLEY, of Alderley, moved the second reading of
meter Railway and Canal Traffic Regulation Bill, which,
a discussion in which Lord Campbell, the Lord
zuancellor the Earl of Derby, Lord Lyndhurst, and others
(Q*
part, was read a second time.
talifter despatching some other business of a routine cha-
ter their lordships ad'ourned at twenty minutes to
ht .
o'clock.

ROUSE OF COMMONS—TUESDAY MAY 16.
BiPp'moss against the sale of intoxicationg liquors on
onill'e_Y were presented from various places, among others,
otf:rom Liverpool by Mr. HORSFALL. Petitions on various
tr subjects were also presented, after which, in answer
ter. Macartney, Mr. WiLsoN said the supplementary
parZtes for the commissariat expenses were not yet pre-
',SPARER STAMP •DUTY.—Mr. 3iiimirEit GIBSON
nr4,(l the following resolution :—" That it is the opinion
lc,„_u sni house that the laws in reference to the periodical
and newspaper stamp are ill-defined and unequally
de.,,ed; and it appears to this house that the subject
lands the early consideration of parliament." In a
en-
filed JPeech he went over numerous cases of hardship en-
`u on parties by the vagueness of those laws and their
tv_e_clual and partial application. He contended that it
1,7 Public policy, if observations and discussions of facts
tissire allowed to be circulated free of stamp duty, to permit
Aft.4ecirculation of the records of the facts themselves.
la mentioning specific cases of the uncertainty of the
the law
adduced instances in support of his allegation that
e
_ was unequally enforced ; that it
.was put in motion,
against the powerful London publisher, but against
t; little proprietor of a small paper in some prom=
4:11- Finally he impugned the manner in which the
ar,ll„ritY law was administered, arguing that, while it was
those to publications not within the purview of that law,
suffered against which it was expressly directed were
„"ered to escape. All he asked, he said, was that the
might be made clear and be enforced with justice.
t• The motion was seconded by Mr. KINNAIRD—The AT-
°IINEY said he was inclined to agree with Mr.
Gibson,
ENERAL
tinuson, that the law on the subject of periodical publica-
Os required revision and amendment ; still though
'"aeving that there were portions of the law which re-
, rred amendment (to which he was prepared to give his
est attention) he could not go the full length of the reso-
tlttion and therefore, without meaning any, disrespect to
4r- Gibson he moved the previous question.—Mr. ENV.4.I2T
spoke in favour of the resolution ; and Mr. ...Hymn said be
thought„„ the press laws ought to Pe repealed altogether.
,_ 7.:11-1e SOLICITOR-GENERAL objected that the resolution im-
plied a reproach upon the public authorities.—Sir J.
"ZELLEY supported the resolution, and Mr. CROSSLEY
31g1ested that the newspaper stamp should be taken off,
and a penny stamp on bankers' cheques substituted.—Mr.
13alonT insisted on the necessity of facilitating the access
atf the labouring classes to newspapers by the abolition of
11e stamp duty, and contended that by the substitution of
% Postage stamp of equal amount, no sacrifice of revenue
arise.—LoßD PALMERSTON said if Mr, Gibson
akld alter the terms of his, resolution, so as merely to
that the law denianded the early consideration of
te 1441, ruent with a view to its revision, he would not object
This Mr. GIBSON declined to accede to, but declared
(4.4oeusation was against the system, and not against in-
Intuals.—The amendment was withdrawn and the reso-
-411 agreed to,
there PRILLIMORE postponed the motion which he had
the'3l notice of relative to the principle promulgated by
fre gevernment as to the rights of neutrals in war, that
dreenl°Yonis make free goods; and Mr. ScuLLY with-
motion fora public examination of qualifications,
On —"Jai; and general fitness for civil office.
Truk
motion of Mr. BLAND, leave was given to bring
Ireland,
for an improved mode of taking the corn averages
rent ‘4431d, and also to provide for the annual variation of
On the
in lieu of tithes in Ireland.
ItIN the motion of Mr. MALucs, seconded by Mr. L.
wo_ leave was given to bring in a bill to enable married
p„ sines to dispose of reversionary and ,other interests in
1411a1 estate.
And re limax moved for a select committee to inquire into
;),,f tbe-Prt upon the state of the present public registry
!'adPrerogative Court, used as a testamentary office,
in 4 whether a better office can be established for the keep-
concaud Preservation of wills.—The SOLICITOR-GENERAL
kurred In the motion, and it was agreed to.
The Industrial.and Provident Societies Bill was read a
41(1 time.
the o house then went into committee upon the Manning
diseirayy Bill, thexlause of which underwent considerable
I)ast SSIOn, and the house adjourned at twenty-five minutes
mle o'clock.

WEDNESDAY, MAY 17.
ttTITIONS against the Episcopal and Capitiilar Estates
~"'0 vvere presented by Lord A. VANE from the Dean and
Ch:°,s of Norwich, from the Dean and Chapter of Christ
Car;co, of St. Peter, 'Exeter, the Dean and Chapter of
the 13tburY, the Canons 'of Christ Church, Wells, ,and
(1.. eau•and Chapter of St. Peter, Westminster.
laiic...l the motion of Mr. MULLINGS, the Registration4if
',l of Sale Bill was passed into Committee. . .
ti :vile Borough Boundaries (Scotland) Bill, on the motion
'4l° LORD ADVOCATE. was negatived.
EPISCOPAL . 1
AND. CAPITULAR ESTATES• BILL.
, Lora
X this VANE, OR rising to oppose the second reading
t
Illg Dill, expressed his regret and:surprise that no lead
eusiiillember of the government .was present on the dis-
to I°° of so important a measure—a measure involving
4/F4l'Y millions of church property. ' In government in-
illiort`loce with the property of -the church, even. in his
eklexPerience, he had witnessed something which was
rebated.to excite his most serious apprehensions. With
Chew to the Canada Reserves Bill, that measure had
t'114„,-- attended with this peculiarity—that, when the
mired
of the Exchequer supported the measure, he
;_irelb`eithe House that the property would be devoted en.
tund. m religious purposeS'; but the hon. gentleman'the
41e-,,'r-Seeret y for the clalonies . told the House that 1
"e 'd-ewi, as every r p babiliti that the surplus funds would
secular objects. These things gave him
pl.s,easoh °tedaptp°resheend that if the House sanctioned the
b-'iCiplethof this bill, and moved the management of church
41.°13erty entirely out of the hands of the ,church, and if,
'.',.4454igh holding the fee simple in their hands, the church
1,.°111d have' the entire control taken from them, a•cla)t
:.. clit.ld come when a motion would he made in the House
..,:, , . ConunonS to deVOte the church property to. secular
"-: ' ses altogether, ' Reflecting on what were the9Pnlions
iiit.4S,..__. e who gave their support to this measure—among.
tva,ra.,_ were to be numbered the hon. member for, onth-
,'' (111r..Pellatt) andthe hon. member for Stroud (Mr.
the 4'82:4a11)—the former of whom was a warm advocate for
klv 'eParation of Church and State ; and the latter 4;4
to.,°,eate for the exclusion of bishops from the. House of
tlilana.for the abolition of tithes--,-he really thought
belt p"ie noble lord, the mover of this bill, should pause
Mcletl-e he enforced its second reading, and seriously con-
estj whether it was a measure calculated to benefit the
kovolislied church. As not -a single member of the
,tidw'e'llillint: was present to, announce either their indi.
LvitlC °Pinions, or the general views of the Administration
"tiiip.'l:esPect to this important question, none of them
11,911,- In the House except the two hardworked gentlemen
41r seated on • the Treasury bench' (Lord Mulgrave and
hiov kx.• herkeley)—(hear, hear, and a laugh)--he should
ke. that the deblte be now adjourned. (Hear, hear.)
trint:py• BUTT 'seconded the notion, and said, a hill, the
1n.,q1 eenl',.,,'e " whieh was so iMportant as that of the prern; .
,1-etC.CI not he discussed with practical :advantage with-
. ,7ele Presence of some influential Minister, who might
'b-t.._ov.rhe wheter it would be' sanctioned or opposed by the
sTede illent ;nor was it fair to the noble lord who p
;,,oilidi,t3 after all his exertions in the matter, that rhee
4tliti. be compelled to proceed with the debate, when_ iti.
1 1411.-eriel certain that it could lead to no practical r9i!l
`ll the ); BERKELEY said the Home Secretary would- be
Likir. ril"se immediately.
''"tW 14:U1411016-Said. he could not see much difference
wiitloyienell tlitoeSe.who declared .their intention of utterly de-
it:tat ti,7‘ii church root and branch, and
' ori ..3". called "reform," endeavoured •• • totally to pervert
those who, by
tt4lite)...• .114 institutions by destroying that which was the
A,/ 441 of . .
r, 1,-. our episcopal church.
i4."'briX'n said the voluntary efforts of the people
,I.e hue more for the cause of rell,gions instruction than
4te lill.°ll establishment
h...., oped , 0 . ishment, with all, its power and jiilljtenct%
ii:),„fief_... see the property of that church devoted
e,t appueciPtirposes,than those to which it was at pre-,
l'o-mmr ' ' • - •
Li some remarks from Mr. SPOONER and Mr. WAI,-
ttilic)rti ,I,
the ia.th RussEnn admitted that there was very great
b„ e reasons which had been urged in favour of
tT,,,r•Ng;PTieraent. He also' admitted that. many of the
"'As ; and concludes}
proposed bill were open to very grave Objed-
"'" °Onclnded by stating that, under the cirCl4ln,

stances of the case, he hoped the noble lord who proposed
the-bill would consent to its postponement. At the same
time if it were to be a question of voting "ay" or "no"
upon the second reading he should certainly vote for the
second reading. (Hear;hear.)
Mr. H. T. LIDDELL and Mr. MOWBRAY advocated the
adjournment of the debate.
The Marquis of BLANDFORD, in replying to objections,
and stating the alterations he proposed to make in the bill,
expressed his satisfaction at the declaration of Lord John
Russell, that the government would, if necessary, be pre-
pared to take up this subject ; but he felt the matter, he
said, to be of such pressing importance, and so many con-
tingencies might arise to put it out of the power of that
noble lord to fulfil his intention—considering, also, that
the subject was not new, but had often been discussed,
he asked the house to affirm the principles of the bill by
reading it a second time.
On a division, the adjournment was negatived by a ma-
jority of 123 to 62 ; and, after some further discussion,
the bill was read a second time, and ordered to be com-
mitted pro forma on the 21st of June.
DRAINAGE OF LAND.—Mr. SEYaiER, after a lengthened
address, moved that the Drainage of Land Bill be read a
second time. After a protracted debate, and a motion by
Mr. CHRISTOPHER that the bill be read a second time
this day six months, which was withdrawn, the second
reading was ultimately carried.
The report, with amendments, on the Manning the
Navy Bill, and that on the Navy Pay Bill, were severally
agreed to, and ordered to be read a third time on Thursday.
The house adjourned at twenty-five minutes past five.

THURSDAY, MAY 18.
Numerous private bills having been read a third time
and passed; after which petitions on a variety of subjects
were presented, among which were two against the sale of
intoxicating liquors on Sunday, one from St. Luke's dis-
trict, and the other from the Presbyterian Church, Mount
Pleasant, Liverpool ; they were presented by Mr. HORS-
FALL, who also presented one from the Chymists' Society
of Liverpool, in favour of a decimal system of currency.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM, ill answer to a question by Mr.
FRBNCII, denied that the Great Britain had been offered
to Government for the conveyance of troops to Constanti-
nople oftener than once, and stated that the reason for
declining the offer was, that the terms demanded by the
owners were greater than had been claimed for any other
vessel. He also asserted that the capacity of that vessel
would not enable it to convey more than 150 horses, in-
stead of 300, as had been insinuated in the question.
After the transaction of some routine business, the ad-
journed debate on
CONVENTUAL AND MONASTIC INSTITUTIONS.
The debate on the question of the appointment of a com-
mittee was resumed by Mr. NEWDEGATE, who, adverting
to the position in which this question had been placed,
and to the course of action taken, as he said, by a domi-
neat minority, recommended Mr. T. Chambers to change
his mode of proceeding, and abandon his motion.
Mr. BRIGHT defended the course of action adopted by
the minority, and implored Mr. CHAMBERS, if he with-
drew his motion, to wash his hands of the subect for ever.
After some remarks by Mr. Conuna, Mr. J. BALL, and
Mr. FREWIN,
Mr. T. CHAMBERS explained the reasons which in-
fluenced him in withdrawing for the present the motion.
He consented not to press for the appointment of the
committee only because, in the position in which the
question was placed, it was a literal and almost physical
impossibility for him to 'proceed, having been met by a
factious opposition, aided by the government. In with-
drawing his motion it remained open to him, he observed,
to consider what ulterior course he should take.
Lord J. Iltrisru, rejoiced that the motion was with-
drawn, believing that its success would exasperate one
part of the nation against another; that inquiry was in-
expedient, and legislation unnecessary.
Sir J. PARINGTON did not say that the Government
had been a party to the precedent of a minority prevailing
over a majority ; but thought the course taken by Mr.
Chambers was right.
Mr. CRATTFORD insisted that the question for discharg-
ing the order for the appointment of the committe be put
to a vote, and the motion for discharging the order was
carried bya majority of 100 against 1.
MERCHANT SHIPPING BILL.
On the motion, by 'Mr. CARDWELL, for the second
reading of this bill, Mr. HORSFALL said, he did not
rise *to oppose the bill, upon which great care and
attention had been bestowed by the right hon. gen-
tlemen,. but to point out one or two mistakes into
which he thought the right hon. gentleman had fallen by
interfering with the Mercantile Marine Act of 1850,
although he would not go into any, details on the subject
until the bill went into committee. One of the most im-
portant points of_ the measure was the transfer which it
proposed to effect of the power of the various local marine
boards to two magistrates. He had been for several years
a member of the Liverpool Marine Board, and he could
bear testimony to the efficiency with which it had been
conducted. He thought that no board couldbe more per-
fect or complete than that board, constituted as it was
under the act of 1850. It was now proposed-to transfer
its Power to two magistrates, neither of Whom 'might know
a bowsprit from a mainmast. (Hear, hear.) He bad
heardano reason for that change, except that E oine mem-
bers complainedthat it occupied a great portion of their
time. This certainly was no valid ground, because if
gentlemen had not time to devote to theirduty they might
retire, and others could be found to take their places.
The alterations proposed in the bill with respect to advance
notes to seamen were" also very objectionable ;'but., as he
should move an amendment upon that subject in com-
mittee, he would not further allude to it atpresent. One
great deficiency in the bill was, that it did not re-enact
the apprenticeship system, which he looked upon as of very
great importance. Upon the Ist of January, 1850, there
were in the merchant service 31,636 apprentices, and that
number had dwindled down to 13,826 upon the Ist of
January, 1854. (Hear, hear.) .It appeared to him, if the
mercantile marine of this country were torbe maintained,
and if the navy were to be recruited from that nursery
whore it had hitherto derived its efficient-seamen, that it
would be the duty of the right hon. gentleman to re-enact
that clause, which he admitted had been abolished at the
time at the request of the shipowners themselves. Cir-
cumstances, however, had changed since then, so that the
shipowners now carne forward with perfect.conSistency to
ask tfie house to re-enact that clause. There was another
omission in the hill of a question of all otherErthe most im-
portant to the shipping interest of this country—he meant
the omission of any allusion to the operation of the 9th
and 10th of Victoria, chap. 93, commonly known as Lord
Campbell's Act. That act either did "or did not apply to
shipping. ,Ifit did—and it had been held by courts in
this country-to do so—he maintained, that it was the duty
of the right hon. gentleman to have introduced some clause
upon that subject into the bill. Under the -operation of
that act, whichtad been originally intended to apply to
railway accidents only, shipowners were placed in a position
which was perfectly inconsistent with every principle of
justice. He was not desirous to exempt the shipowner
from any responsibility which should legitimately fall upon
him„ but it had been admitted by Lord Campbell that
he
e
had never intended that act to apply to shipping. Un
its operation the wealthiest shipowner might be ruined in
a single hour. There was no limit to his responsibility,
and .he asked that he should be placed in the position in
which he was -previously to the passing of theact. Under
former acts the-liability of the shipowner had been confined
to the value ofthe ship and, freight; and in asking now
that their liability should be confined to that, he thought
that they were not asking too much. (Hear, hear.) With
the law as it existed no •Irudent. man could own a slit!).
He certainly would not undertake for any, premium that
might be offered 'to carry a:eargo of passengers under the
present law and the liabilities which it imposed ; and he
trusted that in committee the right hon. gentleman would
insert some clause
.Which •should confine the liability of
shipowners to th hiee'va of the ship and freight. If that
were not done, lie.was" satisfied that the bill would fustrate
the very object which the government had in view in giv-
ing protection to enaigrants going. abroad ; for it would
prevent all prudent men from. owning vessels, and none
theuecao and adventurers monld engage in the trade,
If t right hon. gentleman did mot" do so, he should hint-
!self propose a clause to that effect-in committee- (Hear.)—,
•Capt. SCOBELL.concurred, in the necessity of the appren-
ticeship clauses ; while Mr. W. F. LINDSAY was prepared
to resist their re-introdssetion, but 'he entirely coincidd
e
in Mr. Horsfall's OpiniOn as to the inapolicy and injustice
of so far extending the responsibrof shipowners
• case' Of aceidents.—After some observations from several
other members, Mr. CARDWELL rejoiced at the tone and
Spirit with which the bill had been received, which, he
observed, was not a codification, but a Consolidation of the
law. He replied to remarks made upon the transfer of
power from local. marine . boards to Magistrates (the
object of which was that the inquiry should
;.)e a judicial I
one), upon .savings-banks, advance notes, the liability of
shipowners'.apprentices, and the removal of the veatriction
upon the manning of ships with foreign sailors. This
bill, as well as the Merchant Shipping Acts Repeal Bill,
mid the" Wreck and Salvage Bill, was read a second time.'
The Custom Duties Bill pasied through committee. The
Manning the Navy Bill, and the Navy Pay Bill were
severally read a third time and passed, and after some
further business was transacted, the house adjourned at
half-past elevens o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FIUDAY, May 19.
Several Private bills were read a third time, and passed.
Petitions against the sale of intoxicating liquors on Sun.
day, were presented' by Mr. LIDDELL from time,,
and
Burlington districts, and from the Bethel Union, Liver-
pool ; and one was presented by
cent HousrALL, from
Liverpool, against the principle of ralization in the
Testamentary Jurisdiction Bill,
In answer to a questimi from Mr. HORSFALL, Mr. WlL-
sowsated that a portion of the report of the commis-
ioners on the law of partnership was already printed;
the remainder would soon be printed also, and laid upon
the table.
Lord Joins ilussELL, in answer to several questions,
announced that, in the event of the discussion on the
financial resolutions net being finished on Monday, it
would be resumed on the following Friday. The Oaths
Bill would be the first business taken on Thursday ; and,
if despatched' in time, the' Oxford University Bill would
follow on the same night. The Briberweek y Bills would be
postponed from Monday next to Monday .
Sir JAAIES GRAHAM, in reply to Mr. Hume, said the
only information possessed by Government relative to
ess she
the
alleged loss of the Tiger, rested on a telegraphic m
received by Lloyd's, and communicated to the Admiralty.
The message stated that the Tiger, a screw steamer, had
got aground near Odessa. Fortunately', the Tiger was
known to be not a screw, but a paddle vessel—(hear hear)
—and, therefore, it was hoped that the statement was
erroneous. (Hear.)
The house went into committee on the Excise Duties
Bill, the clauses of which were agreed to, after some dis-
cussion.
Customs VIITIES.-Mr: J. WILOON, in a Committee of
'Ways and Means, in the unavoidable absence of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, moved regulations, fixing
the scale of Customs duties to be payable, from and after
the sth of July, on sugar and molasses, and the bounties
acbr
enoefia
ndsnudrawbacks to be allowed on the exportation of refined
sugar after the Soh of. Mayaiker assigningtithreoasf
Aonusgufosrt thieBr4-
the produce of any 'foreign'
PCr cwt. (the duty chargeable on other
to
tchoneddruetsyoluontioure,6rnededucisungg,
's.te-retlae fitili7osf.
4dJuluny,t)iiththe
efoiroetihgnofsAu4laristto.
After a shar toed ba e h
bate
the
resolutions
were
agreed
to.

INCOME TAX.—Mr. WiLsoN moved a resolution, grant-
ing a duty of ls. 2d. in the pound upon property, income,
&c.—Mr. W. Wrm.u.its moved, as an amendment, that real
property be made to pay the same probate duty as per-
sonal property, and that corporate and ecclesiastical pro-
perty pay a duty equivalent to the probate and legacy duties.
—A lengthened debate ensued, at the conclusion of which
the amendment was negatived without a division, and the
resolution was agreed to, as well as another granting
£8,000,000 out of the consolidated fund.
STAMP DIITIES.—The house then resolved itself into
committee on the Stamp Acts, and a resolution was
moved, setting forth the proposed scale of duties on bills
and promissory notes, to take -effect from the 10th of
August next. On the question that upon sums from
£750 and not exceeding £l,OOO the duty be 10s.—
Mr. VANCE complained of the increased duties proposed
to be laid upon bills of exchange in large transactions. A
protracted discussion arose on this point, but ultimately
the resolution was agreed to. After some further debate
on the stamps on brokers' cheques, the house resumed,
and the resolutions were reported.
The bill for affording additional protection to climbing
boys was thrown out on the second reading by a majority
of 112 to 73. The bill is consequently lost.
The Gaining Houses Bill, as amended, was considered
and ordered to be read a third time on Monday. The
Public Statutes Bill was read a second time; and after
the transaction of some further business, the house ad-
journed at a quarter to twelve o'clock, till Monday.

Trroxtas BARNETT, a farmer of Glenstone, near Ross
and deacon of a Baptist. chapel, has been fined by the
magistrates for cruelty to five of his horses. He nearly
starved them, they were covered with sores, and in this
state he compelled his men to make them work on the
farm.
" CHURCH IN DANGER !"—" How LONG SHALL I GIVE
You ?"—Some weeks ago, a Government inspector visited
Monkwearmouth, and with the Rev. B. Kennicott made
the tour of the old churchyard in which for centuries the
dead have been buried—buried in this wise: The monu-
ments are removed—the ground levelled—a stratum of
ballast laid down—the stones replaced —and the work of
burial carried on anew ! Why (exclaimed the Govern-
ment Argus,) you have buried the church ! It stands
below the churchyard, and cannot possibly be dry." He
looked about him with a keen eye, and, breaking a silence
of some little duration, abruptly asked—" How long shall
I give you I" The worthy incumbent not being prepared
for so home a question, there was a short pause; and then
came an answer from the inspector himself :—l'll give you
twelve months." So, with the least possible delay, Mr.
Kennicott got the inhabitants together to consider what
was best to be done; and, after a friendly conference
under his presidency, steps were taken for holding a legal
and more formal meeting with a view to 'the establishment
of a general cemetery ; for, as Mr. Inspector told the in-
cumbent, "Lord Palmerston is a sharp master—one who
cares for nobody—never mincing matters, but cutting
right and left whenever he thinks it proper." And his
lordship " thinks it proper" that Monkwearmouth should
not bury her dead in the ancient enclosure for ever.—
Gateshead Observer.