The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1836-11-11 00:00:00

THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

inclinations; but wiiiilsrplacel hint -where his services would be
more available.
TheoMayoit said the,council had beard both sides, and they,
perbitPi'would come to a decision whether they would ex-
cuse Mr. Lawrence or not.
The Council then, by a large majority, decided that Mr. Law-
ranee shonld serve.
Mr.'Councillor LEIGH objected to be on the watch cominit:
tee, because he was on the paving and sewerage committee, and
he was afraid the duties of the two would clash.
Mr. Councillor W A ',SISLEY said it wag on the contrary very
'desirable to-have on the watch committee a member who was
alio on the paving committee.
Mt.'Counciller livrtinoolit said he did not like to speak of
parties in that council-roin; but a great deal had been said by
the opposite party respecting the management of the police,
mid he thought that the conservatives should themselves have a
practical proof of that management by being placed on the com-
mittee.
Mr. Councillor So AND said he was very' happy to devote all
his spare time to the committee, but he was afraid that he would
be principally engaged with his defies as churchwarden, so as
to prevent him giving that attendance which was necessary.
r. Councillor SilaND was elected with this proviso.
Mr. Councillor BIBBY also begged to have his name with-
drawn. His various avocations in life would prevent his at-
tending to the duties, of which also he was thoroughly ignorant.
Mr. Councillor RATHBONE said that was the most extraor-
dinary objection he had heard. Members who had volunteered
to come into the council ought not to urge that their private
business was to interfere with their peblie duties.
Mr. Councillor Bliley said he had no ambition to come into
the council. If it was the will of the council that he should be
compelled to do the duties of this appointment—he must.
The Mayon said that it was the law that all who! mine into
that room must take a part of the business of-the town.
Mr. Alderman EVANS said he could not help observing that
this was not a very favourable specimen of the new members.
( A laugh.) If th'ey went by the exainple of the old members,
they would find that every one of them lied made his private
business subordinate. They had made great Sacrifice's of time,
and all of them had lost money, from the very nature of this.
Amid-now, Mr. Bibby, and other Members, were declaring their
inability to attend, and their incompetency, and still they would
come into that council.
Mr. Bibby was then elected.
Mr: Alderman ROBINSON then moved, the whole of the mem-
bers having been elected seriatim, that the watch coininittee
should be a eemmittee for the lighting and cleansing of the old
borough, and also for the lighting of the cow borough, which
was seconded bale Mr. Councillor Currie, and adopted
M r. Councillor Chas. LAWRENCE said that he should certainly
now, when elected on this committee, endeavour to do his duty.
(Applause.) After the remarks made by Mr. Evans and Mr.
Reilibene, he could not but take upon himself to say, that the
resollitions of the meetiug on Monday were so much at variance
with-the openingof Mr. Robinson's speech and the proceedings
eof that day, that it was impossible for the council not to be aware
that they should wish to decline serving, after the manner,in
'whichthey had been treated on Monday.
FINANCE Co.IIMITrEE.
Mr. Cauncillor. BOLTON in pursuance of a notice of motion,
rose to propose the appointment of the finance committee. He
said he need not dwell on the greatimoortance of that body.—
Inohe formation of the list which he should have the honour to
submit to them, two prieciples had been acted upon. The first
was, to give the preference to those whose attendance on the
last coniintttee had been most frequent and regular, and the
second was, to put on the committee so many of their new mem-
bers as would be a fair-proportion to represent the two parties
into which the town was- divided. He should first read the
names, of those whose attendance had teen most frequent==-
Messrs. Birch, Bolton, Brown, J. Holmes', and' H. Lawrence.
The other members whom he should propose were Messrs.
Maxwell, M'Gregor, T. Smith, Stuart, Currie, L. Heyworth,
Bibby, Blackburn, Meon, and Leigh.
Mr. Councillor LEIGH demurred to the appointment.
Mr., Couneilllor Bracts begged to move Mr. Shand asnn
amendment, which called forth a:remark from Mr. Evans—that
if there were any one among them who could afford to give up
a portion of his titue,..itovas- surelythe richest martin Liverpool.
Mr. Councillor BIRCH then withdrew' his amendment, and
the whole of the:aboveinentioned members were elected.
lAJP.ROVF.SIENT CoSISIITTEE. •
Mr. Councillor Hoez rose in pursuance of a notice to move
the appointment of the improvement committee. He said there
was no committee which was of more importance in its results
tothetawn than this. As laat-year their numbers were not to
extend beyond nine, therintended that arose individuals-who
had been most regular in their attendance should stand first on
the list this year; while th.eyshould dispense with the services
of those two who had been most frequently absent; though in
doing so, they made no complaint against those individuals,
whose services, on the contrary,' they regretted to lose. The
present Mayor was also taken off the list, as he would be a
member of the committee ex qfficio: The first name which ap-
peared was that of 'their valued. ex Mayor, Mr. W. W. Currie.
The names of "the four who had most frequently attended were
Messrs. H. Holmes, Barclay, Hope, and Hornby. The others
proposed were Messrs. Booth, Shand, Jones, and Platt. The
above names *ere severally put, and the-parties appointed.
TOWN 'DUES COSIIIITTEE.
Mr~Councillot LAWRENCE HEYSVORTH rose for the purpose
of naming the persons to be members of this committee, as lot=
lows:—Messrs. Platt, Birch; Brown, James Heywortho Lea-
thorn, and Ramsdell. The several names were put, and the
parties elected:"

_ .
Mr. Councillor Janss HEYWORTH' said, it had been stated
that gentlemen who had- voluuteered their services, and 'carne
into that council, acted with a bad- grace-in-declining the duties
which necessarily devolved on-such an appointment. lie nets
one of ,those whodid not, solicit the honour:of coming into the
council; and, therefore, the argument could not, with any great
force, come against himself. Bnt though he-stood in rather an
unusual situatione he was perfectly aware that, having accepted
that appointment to which•his constituents bad elected 'him,- he
must take a share in the duties of the council; and-he shbuld
not. shrink from lending his services to this or any other corn,
mittee, to any extent -that his services would in any degree be
useful. But he hoped the multiplication of his duties would not
be, to such an extent as to dilute in a great degree the little
timo,-and talents, and energy he had to devote to them.-( Hear.)
There was one .observation he had to -srate,--that there seemed
to,be that -day a -singular liberality in the infusion-of some of
the new members into the honourable position of teking part
inethe duties of committees. This had•-not been exectly the
principle -laid down on Monday last; in -regard to the Deck'
Committee. If he could have seen the same spirit displayed on
that:occasion, he would have-deemed it as a happy omen of the
spirit of unanimity with which this council. was actuated—a
spirit which might have made it,-not only very pleasaneto each
member, but might also have made their common• appointment
exceedingly beneficial to the town.
Mr. Councillor RATHEONN -and Mr. Alderman- EVANS bOtil'
started up the same motnent. The Meyon, however; called on
Mr. Alderman EVANS. He said, Mr. Heyworth -had again'
alluded to the subject of the Dock Committee election,- by re-•
ferring to it-as an-example of party feelitig in the council, which
has the direction and choice of that committee: He begged he
might, have the -attention of the MAYOR, without the light of
whose countenance he could not get on. It happened on that
question Chat an amendment had been moved on his name;
although he expected an amendment to be moved on other
names, it never onco occurred to him that it would be moved on
his name. It created in his mind some little difficulty—it raised
a point of delicacy—whether or not he could get up, and' resist
an amendment which went to substitute another person for him-
self. He referred to a friend at hand, in whose opinion and
judgment he had the greatest confidence ; and he' was of
°Pinion that he had better not refer to it; and that was the reason
that he had lost that great opportunity of getting up, in order
to show the nature of the trust they were going to impose upon
him, and to warn the council of what injury might be dune by
party power, if they were elected into this committee by com-
bating with others. After they had once -elected them, they
would not be amenable to that council. He would have told
them that one of them, influencing others, might have combined
with the enemies-of the council, who,- whilst- representing that
- council, as they were at the time--the very chairman that con-
ducted the opposition of the Dock Trust against them, was, at
that very moment, representing that opposition jest as much
as Mr. Solomon was in care of the Town-hall, at' held alle-
giance to the corporate estate. He used medical language—
there was a solution., of continuity. He would say, witness what
he had done in getting the whole conversion of he corporate
estate. What had the chairman of the Dock '['rust done e
After having aided in making up a- bill excluding the corpora-
tion- from all participation in the- Dock
excludinge-
euently)—he had the heads of the bill there, excluding
them
from this—and adding a clause which many might deem calce:
lated not to admit a member of the council—that the council
were not to be deemed qualified for superintending the' Dock
Trust. That was the only boon that was intended trebecon-
ceded to them! But the corporate interest ifiethe eeotporate
property was to be entirely dispensed with. Thet -gentleman,
Mr: Lawrence) ought either to have abandoned- his post, or
he ought to have considered himself in honour bound to main-
tain the corporate interest. The heads •of that bill had been
out a whole week before -ever the ceeporation gut to look at
them. They were handed to every one;•excepting the council,
who might have been supposed to have an interest in them.
There was an indecency in the thing. After that, the idea- was
given up that they could exclude-the council, and the -trust
agreed to give them a meeting—not a meeting of one
acknowledged body with another—(vehemently)—they could
not-get it. The corporation of Liverpool were denied- a meet-
ing with the dock committee of management—except with gen:
tlefnen coining from a bOdy that had no legal existence what-
ever. Then. observe the effect of this. These gentlemen were
appointed by the committee otmanaeementin such a manner
that they could' never have conic into the conitnittee-room,
without undergoing the sensation that they were come there to
do something to oppose the corporate members: Well, they
cause there. Afterwards they acquainted Mr. Lawrence, the
chairman of the' committee,' that they had had the first legal
advice—(the Attorney-Genetal and others)—and then they
were given to understand (what was- a new •feint altogether)
they were afterwards told by Mr. Lawrence, " We are here be-
tween you and the rate-payers." Actually! between the cor-
poration who had named them, anal the rate-payers. They
were nobody. They were not incorporated. They were not a
body-, to put in the other scale, in order to weigh down the cor-
poration. • But this was their position—they, wanted -an umpire •
to '-decide 'between what was 11°i-equal; The one who was ap-
pointed actually to serve the dock power and- influence was
noinicated as au amendment to time. He met him linked with
the enemies of municipal reform, in the corridors of the House
of Commons, which he had filled with attorneys and hostile wit- •
nesees. He found he had actually laid the were lle had been
speaking of facts. He would now add his opinion, that, if Mr.
Lawrence had acted as he ought to have clone, they should' have
Lad uo trouble. If he had been a mere umpire, they should hate
had no law-suit. They would' have saved for the corporation
.£3,000 or £,1,000, and the same sum fot the dock trust. He
declared that Mr. Lawrence was the s(ec cause of the 'lose of
that money. He thought it would have beets better' if his name
had not been noticed; because it would ha-•e looked as if the
council had acted in a party spirit. But it was-his object to
show that the council could nor have -done otherwise—thet it
was exceedingly improbable and impossible that they could -en.-
tertian a proposition that they might hive a majority on the
conservative side. He wculd fiut it to them—could they neere_
pate a gentleman who had attempted to destroy the influence
of the corporation? If they had done so—if they bed
tweet him--what would. "have been the result? Why they
would have .stultified themselves, if they had authorised and
teeetioned, and approved of all his conduct. Could anything,
e.e.alore monstrous than this; if even thecouncil was conserve-
There were three matters which 'surprised hint. He had
brTi'! slightest personal antipathy to Mr. Lawrence-; and he
Levee
also that his private character -was unimpeachable.
But its his pfer censureu
b
l,ic character he ;thought there was ample ground '
dock
conm litteeut in none more so than in his conduct on the
M r. Councillor C. T
eseweerece then ro'se—
Ali OR Illtertered
Mr. Alderman .Evetvs *said lie would only speak one word
!Div:cr.
.1!;e YOR said Mr. eleewertli had provoked the war, and
he.goeld not complein.
Mr. Alderman EVANS then continued. --Mr La• • , lie
pot
compiain_r,be had provoked what
his addressoocl cries .of ci11e34,.,
nn; '
—7oh Lee,: at I
wherein he 51101$ at Us, and glories in his e rit!ht")___.
14teMpt to shackle
our power.

Mr: Connelllot COM. AN here rose. He regretted that the
subject had been brought forward ; but Mr. Evans had been
ii a great degree provoked by the comments of Mr. Heyworth,
accusing that council of partisanship in rejecting gentlemen
for some committees, and of extreme liberality in choosing them
for others. He regretted it because the subject was not connected
with the questiou- before the council. That day had been de-
creed fur much other business—,they had much better not waste
two or three hours in discussint,• the merits of the gentlemen
forming the dock committee. The council were or were not
Competent to choose the members. It was their duty to bow to
the decision of the majority who hail decided the question, he
thought it did not come with a good grace to accuse the majo-
rity of that council with illiberality. They might think a gen-
tleman not so fitted to serve in one situation as another. Some
were fitted for one department and not for another. They might
think Mr. Heyworth had the eyes of an Argus, and was fitted
for the watch committee, but they might not think him fitted
for the dock committee. Still they were there; they were the
individuals to decide, and whether correctly or not they had the
power, and he trusted they should always exercise it in a fair
and impartial manner. He thought they ought not to be called
in questio❑ because they chose this gentleman or the other.
Mr. Councillor C. LiwiteNce said he would not enter there
into a defence of his conduct. He should not have interfered
at all had pot a remark in the introduction of Mr. Rathbone's
-speech of Monday stated, that they had selected the members
of the committee for their .political views. (Mr. Rathbone,
•" No, no," and cries of " Yes, yes..") He would not trouble
them- with the defence of his conduct as a member of the clo,ck
committee. He was satisfied that he had done what was right.
Mr. Councillor J. H erwouTrt here rose, bull was assailed
with loud cries of " spoke, chair, spoke."
The M A roe said it was, a rule that no gentleman should speak
twice except in explanation.
Mr. Councilhir J. HEY WORTH said he was perfectly aware of
that; he had been reminded of it no Monday by the late Mayor:
He thought it only due to himself that he should say he had in-
stituted no comparison between Mr. Lawrence or any other
member of the committee who had been appointed. He did not
even object to the list of those members who were sent into the
dock committee. He merel♦ spoke of the great disparity which
existed between the lists of members electedon committees that
day and on Monday.
Mr. Alderman liontNsort rose to order. Mr. Hevworth's
speech was anything but an explanation.
The MAYUR thought it was an explanation of some particu-
lar point.

Mr. Councillor J., HavwonTa said he merely drew a compa-
• rison between the lists of committee-men-that day and on Mon-
day. lie said nothing about Mr. Lawrence; he bud his 'cha-
racter in his own keeping.
Mr. Councillor 1-t•ATroolig rose amidst great confusion, and
cries of "spoke,. spoke." He said' he, shotild not have ad-
dressed them, but as au, assertion had been made which had
been put into his mouth; which he had never uttered, lie'should,
beg to explain. When he introduced•the list of the dock coin
mitiee, he expressly stated that those had been chosen, who
would hold the supremacy of the town of Liverpool in the ad-
ministration of their own affairs, especially in reference- to the
dock estate. There was no reference to party whatever. He
only wished to give the words—let gentlemen make what use of
-it they chose, (On referring to our reporter's shortiltagdnotec,
of what Mr. Rathbone did say, the words-he uttered were—"
give iu the -list of names selected tog() down as dock committee-
-men—of course following the proceeding- laid down by tie
Town-clerk, thar each must be balletted.for ; and if ahrgentle-
man-objects to the names that:are put down. it-is at his' option
to do so; I must state that this selection of names has been made
with reference to those who will maintain the supremacy of the
town of Liverpool in:the management of their own affairs.")
MARKET COMMITTEE.

...•-•••,••••
Mr. Councillor Jo ROAN proposed,that the•following:gentle-
men form the above committee-- Messrs. H. Holmes, Dun-
can, Evans, Thornhill, Bibby, Freuie, and Jordan. Agraed
to.

BY-LAW COMMITTEE
Mr. Alderman rittowx proposed that the names of Messrs:
;141ason.and Houghton, be added to those or the old conimit-
Aeo—the committee to consist of Messrs. Brown, 0. Hey-
'worth; Birch, Houghton, Mason, Duncan, and Morecroft.
Agmed,to.

TOWN-HALL ESTABLISHMENT COMMITTEE.
'rho Town-clerk read the- first resolutions of the Council
relative to the alloWance to the •Mayur; and-the mode of its dis-
posal.

Mr. Councillor Rawnori proposed that the following gentle-
men should compose the comrnittee—Messrs. Currie, Bonn, G.
,Holt, Rawdon, and Houghton.
Mr. Councillor.John H01.111E9 moved that the Mayor have an
allowance of £2oooas had before been voted, which was seconded
by Mr. Alderman Barclay.

Mr..thiuncillor. MAxwtLL thought it was 'a gteat deal too
'much, but as he supposed he should stand alone in the opinion,
he- would not found any motion on. it.
Mr. Councillor Jamas LAwaaNcn said an objection had been
made that the sum named was too much. He conceived that
taking into consideration the• magnificence of the Town of
Liverpool,-nod the.dignity and hospitality-which the Mayor had
to nupport,-thatit was not too much, and fie was quite favourable
to it.

EDUCATION 'COMMITTEE.

Mr. Councillor RATHBoNe rose, in pursuance of a notice, to
movk the appointment of ,the Education, Committee. In so
doing.he begged to offer a few remarks. He deeply regretted
that the political warfare should have been conducted on the
edhcation of the people. He thought it was a sobject on which'
there should not have been any political feeling whatever, where
the welfare, both present and future, of the poorer portion of the
people is concerned Ile thought they-should; on such a- sub-
ject as that, throw aside all political -feelings, and, most of'all,
throw aside-all misrepresentation and falsehood. He was pre-
pared to state that the protestant children in theseschools would
be made as good churchmen as in any school in• Liverpool, he
-did not care where it was. He was prepared to state; also, that
these children would be as welt read in-the bible, that book which
it had been asserted, over and over again—(with great vehe-
mence)—falsely asserted, he must say,—knowingly, falsely
asse.ted—(clapping his. hands with extraordinary vehemence)—
had been excluded from those schooli—as- any children in
Liverpool.. It was their wish in-this election'tothave put some
toties on the school committee, wishing that-they should know
something on' that subject on which therhad- said so much,
and be prepared to offer some opinion upon it. It the system
was wrong, it was high time it should be made right. Let- those
who spoke on the subject know of what they spoke. Let those
who had asserted that the Bible was not in the school,' at
honest men; and they called -upon them as Christians, come
and see -before they made such assertions. He had a light to
call on them, as- honest men, and as people professing the
meek'precepts of the christian religion,, to do so:' He would
not take up their time; he had spoken warmly on the subject
because lie felt earnestly. It was to him no political question,
and it never should be; but-when he sawchildren going about
barefooted and ragged,.nay worse,- he must state, of moral de-
gradation, brought 'into the police-office, he felt mcist anxions
that they should be saved finch that degradation. He had no
hesitation 'in avowing him Self a -Unitarian dissenter;- but• he
did, atlthe same time, say, -and he had the -confirmation of Mr.
Charles florsfall, who he was sorry was not present to bear
him out, that he had never brought his sectarian principles into
that school. So far from that, when they -could not get clergy-
men to perform that duty which they ought' to perform,'—when
only one gentleman of the church of England had attended, he
had himself heard the children the catechism of the church:of
England, and;wfiere he understood it, endeavoured to 'explain-
it in the sense:-of the- clergy, and- in the 'reading of the Bible
also. 'Why ? Because the teachers of th errebpie, who ought to
have been there, were nut at their posts. He should take the
liberty of replying to any thing' that • might be said in the
council, and conclude' simply by proposing a list of names,
which list had tie reference whatever to party.
Mr. RATunotin then read over a list of names which will be•ii
found below.

Mr. Councillor JAMES' HEYWORTH' said, from • what had
fallen from Mr. Rathbone, that gentleman made it appear that
because difference of opinion existed as to th 4 mode of educa-
tint, that should.go to prove that it was made a political queS•
lion. II& (Mr. Heyworth) thought that an iminense difference
might, exist on such a subject, without putting a political con-
sihretinn ,on- it. Although Mr. Rathbone might differ very-
widely in opinion with another: party; he thought that he was
not entitled to claim any peculiar or exclusive credit on account
of his feelings for the education of the poor. He (Mr. Hey-
worth) thought a noble manifestation had lately been made of
the feeling which had animated those of a contrary opinion to
Al r. Rathbone,
in the two noble and splendid monuments that
were in the course of erection.. As to the Bible in the schools,
he had been given to understand that the Bible—he meant the
whole Bible, from which nothing was to betaken, and to which,
no adtittiOn was to be made under severe' penalties,: if they be-
lieved the scriptures, was not used during the school hours.
He thought that selections from the scriptures' were not eaten-
' lated to do' thatiood which could bellow, by the whele unnati-
tilated'wortl of God. He did not wish to ucake this a political
questiOn. Ile wished to know whether the commandments
were in' the version that was used in the schools. Was the
second Commandment there ?
That commandment which
ordained. that they should not fall
'
into the sin of idolatry ? If
that commandment was not there, it at once invalidated in. his
mind thegoodness or their extracts.
amendment On Air. Rathbone's "tooting: His
motion
Mr. Coancillor Breen said he was anxious to propose a mo
lion
t as an
nt to' the extent that' the seheols should be diScen-
oomn
went
th:uPchruPaelillotbieendinss"thseigd,°hr.e.--co(Cu'lrileasgbstfi're"'nthe'r th;)t.
- very
eet with; and he' could add,
tinned, and
proposingn,mtiTiserisible to its great 'importance, and h) the '
he
In
was
tench More pleasant to to hire ti) li've
moreover,oppcmsitio that
nitvoi
tu llds.opuliodlibaeblin.
supported some other member in the council.ithin to tiring for...
th'cast any unputat ien
ward so decided a measure as that. He hopet that the measure
was not intended ia
n Committee: a - -
on the past proceedin'gs of the •Educatioc
It ant' tiu
lie.;
the slightest degree
hoped also it would not be supposed to
thosea proceedings
the conduct of those parties by
whom
was simply nut to give
been unii,rtnly advocated. His wish iniol
I a te Mperate—
offence to men; but, if li^gsible' by a
t :Ifl thov., unhappy
and above all, a decided course, to do nwaV w',
mind 1 d b. ,
la t cii
causes of dissatisfaction, by which the public.
of ale pre-
vexed and tormented throughout the partgTeater.
'l that fie had
sent year. it had so happeOed, on this question,
never yet had an opportunity of giving 'either tote or au
'''''h hiss friend-
opinion. When the discussion took place iti whit ,
he
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Mr.' Blackburn took so distingilished a part--(heat),, I 7,7 ;
absent from town ; but if hailed been present -on that oceasue ;
he should have given him his suppOrt," becaitse Ite'did' feel, nn-
der the difficulties of the case, that it was the onIV reasonable
course which the council could adopt. He had always been
astonished that any man could justify the principle, that. the
corporation property, contributed by the public, couhrbeappro-
pnaled to any one sect in preference to 'auother.—(Toud'eries
of "hear.") lie ' declared that he 'himself -could never hridg
his mind to sanction the'appropriation of such funds even to
benefit the chureh of which he' was a- me'tntier.-He 'would say
also that he did think that if the opinions of the calm' and con-,
siderate part of the community could 'be fairly s.seertailied—
whether consisting of Whig or Tory—ChUrediumati or Dissenter
—he did believe that that impinionWould go to this extent—that
the public money could not be used for the benefit of any party'.
N'ew, if this were the 'acetirate *conclusien, he *Mild ask, what
blame could possibly attach to the EducatienCOmmittee? In-
deed, were they not. diming th4if duty ? Were they not acting
strictly in accordance frith the acknowledged rule of justice. in
applying that prineil, 0 to the Public schools ?.1-:( Tear.)' And
whether the Mode he judicious or otherwise—or whether, when '
it Was found to inflict-Much distplietude and abxiety on the pub-
lic 'Mind—whether it was very wise or discreet to persevere or
taut--was a' auestion on which the best of men Might divide.
If it had been possible to have introdued into the 'schords'a'sys-
tem of what. might be. termed serular education, by which time
children might have been taught to read amid write, and have
'been grounded in the elements of plain and useful knowledge,
leaving them to reeeiVe their religious lineressienS from their
own parentiand their owii iiiiimist.emS of relig.Umn. !lien he th,,eghl
they should have attained the &vet so Much desired, and have
escaped the present cop,equenct•s thaV held resulted; But threv
were perfectly aware that to such a selietile 'of edneation the
ptiblic hand ' had been tinifOrinlyOppesed:. The whOle tide of
popular feelmng seem-cif-
' ' 4'"' 14.-}M-tvile4et-agal.llSts4ifie scheme of edu•
. -'
cation hut what was grounded one religious ieen4ion. That
being the case, the committee-being so surrounded with copipli.
c4ted mlifE(ilties, what ,possible, blame could attach to them, if
they had availed t;,eoiselves of the only ,expedient thatTeinained

—to oven-the sOluo!t; to II denominLitions,and combine re,b.
gious instruatigu withsecular, as the bust and the pu)yvuy

which was available?? Whether available or: not, this they
most admit, that, having bee°. tried, it had proved to be a failure,
—(loud cries of "No, tro,"—that was hit firm opinion—and, en-.
tertaining that opinion,he did think that the.host course they could
pursue was to abandon the schools altogether. The repugnance
with which one part of the christian community received in-
struction through the medium of mere'selections from the Bible,
and the objections which the other part felt when the whole
Bible was placed in their hands—these two combined circum-
.stances had had a practical effect in converting the schools into
little other than sectarian places of:education ; and they ,all
knew that that was the very principle they had all set out .to
;mil. He, therefore, said that for the sake of consistency, for
the sake only Of carrying out their own principles, they were
bound to do away with the schools altogether.. '!'here was a
duty—a higher obligation than mere attachment to principle—
they were there bound to concede everything to the feeling of
the public, and that feeling had been clearly ascertained. They
Would give him leave to ask, after the experience of the late
election, whether they were not bound to admit that, on this
subject; the opinion of the public had been declared against
them? (Loud and conflicting cries of " Yes, no, yes, no.") It,
Was always the part of wise men, to open their eyes to their own
affairs; and it was still more the part of good men, to correct
their errors when they were discovered. Let them show, by .e
generous avowal of their mistake, and a determination to amend,
that, both as wise men and as good men,,they were, anxious to
do their duty to the public, and thus secure the approbation of
their own hearts. He had now the satisfaction of moving, as
an amendment; " That it be an instruction to the finance com-
mittee to sell the schools on leases of 75 years, in such manner
as they deem best;—that they be sold,in two lots, either for an
annual payment or for a sum laid down ;—and that thesame be
made with a stipulation that the same be used as schools for
the poor." [The'speech of Mr. Birch appeared to create a
great sensation in the council roorn.l

Mr. Councillor JOHN (itzoPpEß in seconding the motion,
said he was not influenced by party• motives; as his opinions
upon the subject were expressed before it became a party
question. The council and committee would be continually
• composed of men of different opinions, both as regarded politics
and religion. The rare of these schools was incompatible with
the duties of the council. If at one: time the schools were
managed satisfactorily,, there was no guarantee that they should
continue so; besides which, some of those who did not approve
of then) were obliged to pay towards them. As a conscientious
dissenter, he objected to this. He had another objection—
that it was an illegal• appropriation of the corporate funds;
they had no right, unless they had a surplus, to pay towards
their suppert out of the corporate funds.
Mr. Councillor' L. HEYWORTIT approved of what had fallen
from, Mr. I3irch, and it therefore became necessary for him to
account for hi% name standing on the committee. No schools
could have been established on principles of greater justice
than these. ( Hear, hear.) These extracts were the best p dicy
that could have been adopted to fulfil the wishes of all parties,
especially when it was considered that no person could sit down
`air& read the. Bible to his children front beginning to end. In
his opinion the amendment was " a most righteous one," and
one which they were compelled by the- existing state of society
to adopt. 'rile best plan was to dispose of these schools. They
would then be maintained on' thht. principle which had been
acknowledged by many to be the best, namely, the voluntary
principle. The voluntary principle was that which had been
tit.ttp,ht by the Deity himself, under the Mosaic dispensation.
W'ith regard to the odium which had been cast on the members
of the education committee, he-should glory in being the object'
of odium for such a cause.

Mr. Councillor W. W. CuttutE. hoped that the Councillor'
for the Castle-street Ward, would postpone his motion, as they
were perfectly unprepared to deal with the question. 'l4lthugh
it was nut. necessary at a quarterly meeting to give notice of a
motion; yet' as they could not' deal at once with a proposition
of such moment, he (Mr. Currie) trusted that the propounder
of it would let thein have time to give the matter due consider-
ation. He should be prepared'to go the fullest letigth in. sup-
port- of what the Corporation bad done, at the same tune he
would not shut his evesto much which was too" trite in Mr.
'Birch's statement, and which he deeply lamented. He trusted
he'shinild never see the Corporation depart froin their proud
eminence at' the 'head. of the'education of the town. It was'
quite suflibient for them to possess the pleasing censciotig-
ness of having performed their duty unmindful of the oppro-
brium which h.id been heaped Upon theth. He repeated, that
.he'hopedthey would' not be called'uport' to proceed in the mat-
ter that, day, but would be allowed to give the subject.the con-
sideration which its vast importance detriatided.
Ay. CouricillOr Elect( at once assented to the' postponement
of his Atid, altei some cthiveriatiofi, it was agreed that
teliiscussion should take place' on that day (Wednesday) fort-
night.
_ _

Connelllor RA TIMONE said thatthe member for Everson
had asked him if the' bible were read during the' school-hours ?
Yes. It:was read for one hour during, school-hours ? The se-
lections were reatraslessons stall other times. If gentlenien
would look to the.good'of the town, these schools would go on
well, and in.titne be an honour to it. He did not believe that
opinien'wlis against them. Ile would not give• way to the
cry which had been raised against them. He' would 'entreat his
'friends; who Were'Of alb reform interest, not to yield like' crai•ens
'to popular prejudices.. He did not mean to throw anv sneer on
anirfriend, especially his friend Mr. Currie; but he did think,
when they bore in mind that' opular.clamour was made againSt
them; theytonght to stand firm to the principles they'profesied.
The following geritlemen-were'then proposed as the commit-
tee.:•-.lllessrs. Blackbithi, Ara/Insley, H. Horuby, 14()pe,: Las-
Sell; Bonn, Itawcton; Sinith;'L; Heyvvorth;
Itamsden, and Itathbone..

GAOL cOISITTTER.

On the motion or Mr: Robinson; it was resolved that the ma•
gistrates of the borough should con,titute the giol committee.

GARDEN CONINIITTEg.

The following members were appointed to be 'the garden com•
mittee•:—Mestra.. E. Sinith, More Lott, J. Smith; Bright; Black
burn,• and• Jordan.

CHURCH ENDOWMENT COMMItTEE.

M. Councillor BLACKBURN mbved that the'same individuals
who had formerly composed this Committee be re-appointed.
Mr. Councillor JAMES 'HEYWORTH asked if any:report. had.
yet been made from that Committee ?
The TOWN C LER K.—No.
Mr. Councillor J. HEY WORTH.—" Have the other Commit-
tees made regular reports?"
The TOWN C LER k.—" Yet."

Mr. Councillor J. HEYWOIITH.—" May •I then ask why this
ComMittee has not pursued the same course as other Commit-
tees?"

Mr. Councillor BOLTON said, this Committee was engaged in
the prosecution of a law-suit, which was not in a situation to be
repbrted on. It would be absurd in thern to repeat circurnstan-
ce4 which would lay their case open to their opponents. There
was no remissness in the Committee.

Mr. Councillor IR /ter( nun; said, the Council would surely al-
low that the Committee themselves were the best judges when
to report.
Mr. Councillor JAMES' HEYWORTH rose in explanation. It
seemed to him ihat be was charged with censuring; he rose for
information and was perfectly satisfied.

Mr. Councillor CHARLES LAWRENCE said, he objected alto-
gettier to the appointment of that Committee. As one of the
old Council he felt bound tOlake the sense 'of the present one
as to the conduct of that Committee. The endowment was
made in consequence of a communication with his Majesty's
Government: They had thought that they were doing what'
wits required.' The law required simply that the matter should
have 'been brought'before the privy council for them to decide
whether they had 'acted right or wrong: The Committee had,
acted otherwise, and it had not done its duty. 'These were his.
thoughts. They ought not to look upon this as a party ques-
tion, but they ought to have gone to' the body that was autho-
rised to decide between them. A large body of the clergy was
most 'unpleasantly situated, and all, through the acts' of this
Corninittee. He should move,—that the day fixed by the Act
of Parliament, for calling in question any of the acts of the'
last Council having elapsed, the COmmittee had not acted pro-
perly, and that, therefore, it should not be re-appointed.
Mr. Councillor J. N. Wow) begged to second that. He said.
he did not know that the corporation had anything to do with
thequestion;further than after the injunction had'been dissolved
the present corporation were made defendants. But what had
they to do with the church endowment question ?
Mr. CCERIE—A great deal ton much, I am sorry to say.
Have not Mr. Jevons and Mr. Bolton sworn that they alone
were relators on this occasion ?

Mr. BotToN—No; I never swore at all.
Mr. Woo resumed—Does not my Lord Langdale, in giving
his judgment, state, that the-present corporation have nothing
whatever to do with the question? Does not his Majesty's
Attorney-General state, that he appeared in court entirely for
the. 'relators and. the relators alone ? And, therefore, I th,n't
see why'we should have anything to do with this question : and,
in fact, from the evidence of the Court of Law, Messrs. Bolton
and Jeions are the litig,ating parties; tli town-council are not
litigating the question—they alone are. And I should like to
know how this such of .f.. 254 19s. 51. came to be paid; whether
it is a legal,payment. or not. If Messrs. Balton and Jevuniare
relators alone, what have the corporation to do with paying this
stun to Messrs. Parkes and Preston.' If the corporation had
required copies of the information, the odd £4 IN. sd. would
. have been quite sufficient-for that expense. And, I should like
also to know, what further sum is to be expended : £25-I 19s. sd.
has alreaclV been expended—whieh, I emit eucl is 'illegal. I
have been'told that a very largo sum was further to be expend-
ed. I believe thkt about a mouth Or two ago, a letter was sent
to Mr. TO',vn-clerk; by the late Al r. Foster, or by Messrs. Foster
and Lloyd, 'stating' that in order to avoid all intermediate ex-
' pences, they suggested the' plan of the Ties:ion going before
the Ilouse of Lords at once: Whether that had been dose •or
not, I do not' know; but'l should like the Town-clerk' to read
that letter, and *hat answer' was made from the endowtnent-
' committee'to that letter. I suppose the money which had heaa
spent; has been for the SoliCitor-general—one hundred guineas
for a retaining fee, and twenty guineas, with his brief.
The Mayon, without suggesting what your presumptions
will be, the Town, Clerk will be ready to answer your questions,
as soon as you ate seated. You have asked a great many
quesliuns, and we must not hear your suppositions.
The 'rs: ow CLERIC said, the Committee were appointed with
instructions to take the necessary
measures us to the recovery
of a sum
it was or not the o
f pll(liae'jc en:l°ilt'sf'lhoefl this.l hands f
been legally MOO at least subject to the question, whether
Corporation,iiutrautsidteehsa.d oirlheade,oinsio!
mittee took the best • tlyive 'thatsthoecte•ortit'litry,alfords; and when
I say that-that adVieed zneluttidesTliis Majesty's attorney-general,
I think I shall be borne o
der any circumstances, required The
resttiilieida.as one which, un-.1
for I should like
to know from any gentleman who 'e settled
py take a art adverse to '
the course of the. committee, or council, with reference to that
question, how the at vowsons and livings attached to them could
be.fixed,'ns to their-aim-Mt-it, until the question was settled, or
could be diiposed of to advantage to the corporate estate. How
could they have Kobe to market, under the sanction of the •
ecclesiastical commissioners, with these advowsons, without
being prepared' to say whether a stipend would be granted ?
But independently of that point, a great question existed as to
it.he legality of the-instrument, and whether the Money ought
not to be recovered back to the corporate estate; and the great
majority of .the• opinions, amounting to 5 to 1, were in favour .
of its being recovered back. As to. those opinions, it would
have been the height of indiscretion fur gentlemen having to
to have submitted their
or to u
to court,
body. The committee
h°lllaPedieni° tarntihgsehtiltr) Itohaidesxvceporeclnatic.tii9hi:at the council committed to them sof
cient power to Use their discretion. Belbre May, the committee
ed—a law-suit existed, not
iltl
ill
tut
ns
ecii:
ir)t.n. u, n i s t a rieor the apprehension of any in-
a any
calculated to dispose of this question
junction—butt founde rm intahtee terminated bu 'ye' sat in' T
as to the churCh endowment. Under the hest advice that the
.
committee could procure', they came to the conclusion, that
their course was to let that law-suit go on; and in Si doing they
were governed, not only • by its being the,most summary,
but this most economical;
and the best calculated in
its nature for having a s
(‘ltru nh' iausattiinnillyolifittithe.soine very
question.
I should think that any
oplienrisnoindeist
slight notion of chancery proceedings, will appreciate the
ci6 ectness of that course of the counnittee. Should they file a
hill; or petition for'it to stand by, or wait till the cause brought
on by-.the relators came before the present council ; there is no
'questinn at all hut that the council did that which -they had a
right to to, actin; unde
• • r this advice. The question accordingly
went on, Carl led on by the. relators, and no doubt on the invi-
tanan of that committee, and tinder 'circumstances which entitied
the r'elato, sin the indemnity of the cOuncil, as will fu!ly appear;
sand-it will then appear that this payment was made wider

these proceedings, sanctioned and advised: by the best legal
authorities. With regard to the relaters swearing this or that,
every syllable Which had. appeared had not a shadow of friun-
dation. it was, perfectly true that, in the, language of counsel,
they were made to use ;legal „language. Some. person has
chosen to say this was sworn to_ -Nothing of the kind took
place. I am not aware ,that 1 have any further question to
answer, except the vestion as tothedetter. A letter was ad-
dreOsed to me proposing. that this,rquestion should go from the
Master of the Rolls, past the Lord Chancellor direct into the
[tense of Lords; and thisavao proposed as a, means of saving
delay. Now, under the advice of counsel, the committee came
to the conclusion that they ought not to accept that proposition,
and they thought they; were entitled to demand the opinion of
the Lind Chancellor, which . might be obtained without any
material delay before the House of. Lords could sit on this
question ; and if that second opinion were against them, (for
they had already had, the.epinion of the Master of the Rolls
.against them,) there might be a question that they should not
go into the House of Lords. F rem the first to, the last the
course which has been pursued.. bas been to avoid every pos-
sible delay on the question. Every delay has been avoided.
And now with regard to the clergy who are waiting out of their
stipends, I believe there is scarcely any member of that com-
mittee who does not entertain the opinion that it is a very hard
thing upon the clergy that they should be deprived of their
stipends; and, probably it' the endoWment had not.stopp;d the
:livings they formerly enjoyed, there would not have been a
Member in the council to have deprived them of them.—(Hear.)
One thing I will
:state, there was a proposition, made
.by me
With the sanction of the committee, that iu all cases where the
corporation would ultimately have to pay the , stipends of
.the
clergy concerned, that the payment should at once be
,made
without prejudice. It did so, happen that though that proposi-,
• iron was made it was neYercarried,into effect, If there is any
queition I haveriet answered
,ou this subject, I shall be very
happy. to give any further information.—( Hear.)
Mr. Councillor J. N,, Woon was much obliged to the Town-
cleak. He was also glad to find that. Mr. Bolton hart not sworn
as stated. He wished. to ask whether the present corporation
Were parties to the said question ?
. . The Towri-cl;nex said they, were parties in order to achieve
the most summary decision of the question, and what was hest
calculated to settle it well on the one side or the othel.. The
council were, in the name of the Corporation. as defenders in
the Court. of Chancery, (hear,) and they justly appeared, as
parties advised that the church endowment was illegal.
Mr. Councillof CHARLES La w.taNcE.—Am I to understand
that the question could be decided by an appeal to the privy
council? . •
The T9WN-CLERK.--I state at once that the decided opinion
of the counsellors,, including therein his Majesty's Attorne-
y was, that the clause hed no relation i,u right to the '
qhestion to be raised; awl
:they were most distinctly advised
not to uoe that clause. Their attention was again driven to the
subject when the six months were about to expire, and, their
advice was still the same7--that the clause had: nothing to do
With the question, and, that the hest course was to have the
question legally decided.
Mi. councillor Ra:rni3osla wished to call attention to the
position in which Mr. Lawrence placed himself as
,a member of
that council. He moved to get rid of the questipti altogether.
He would put it to_ him how he could honourably, as a member,
of that council, try to put a, stop to the
,proceedings altogether.?
Mr. Councillor Connie said he understood Mr. Lawrence to
hhve said that it was a question on which, from feelings of de-
licacy, he could not give a vote. The commiitee had felt that
the clergy were labouring under.a great hardship, and they had
&great desire to relieve this. The Town-clerk had not stated
this 'matter as clearly as he could have wished. The committee
hildmade a communication to three of the clergy who felt so dis 7
.posed, that the corporation would be quite willing to pay their
stipends, on an engagement from the trustees ,of the endow 7
meat that they would refund it. Therefore the hardship did not
lie_at the door of the council. •

. . ,
Mr. Councillor Bor.ToN slid they never, under any circum-
stances,would have oppOsed the, continuance of the payment of
the salaries of the present inCumbents, so long as they perform-
ed their duties. Himself and his colleagues thought that a
fraud bad been committed—(that•yras the legal phrase) and the
law had been resorted to for the purpose of getting ,hack the
£405,000 so fraudulently abstracted, as they conceived, from the
corporate funds. ..
Mr. Councillor C. LAWRENCE said one word of explanation
on the suggestion made front government 'Thai clause had
been inserted for that very purpose by the privy council, and it
was on that clause he had taken the steps he had., Without
that clause he never would have been a party to that endow-
ment. It• was with the clear and diitinct,understandiug ()fa
recommendation from government, that that clause was insert-
ed. Mr. Lawrence concluded by stating that he-did wish to
press his amendment. , • _

Messrs. Bolton, J. Holmes, L. Heyworth, Blackburn, and
Birch were then re-elected on the committee.

CUSTOM-HOUSE COMMITTEE.

The following gentlemen were appointed to fotin this coin.
mittee for the ensuing year:--Messrs. Moon, Evans, H. Holmes.
'Jordan, Maxwell, and Booth.

r BOROUGH COU4T AND, COURT OF REQUESTS.
It was moved by Mr. Walmsley, that the following gentlemen
form the Wove committee:—Messrs. Bright, J. Lawrence,
Duncan; Ruihton,.Walmsley, and Lassell. Agreed to. •

CORPORATION CHURCHES.
Mr. Walmsley moved that a new committee be appointed to
Manage, the pecuniary concerns of the corporation churches.
Agreed,to.--7.l.le.committee appointed consisted of Messrs. H.
Hornby, Walmsley, J. Smith, H. Lawrence, and Platt.
A requisition from the committee of the Ladies' Charity, re-
questing that the use of the suit of rooms in the Town-hall be
granted for their ball, onjuesday,. the, 27th December. was
piesented by the Mayor. The request was at once unanimously
cb,roplied with under the usual rule..
The council adjourned at half-past three to eleven o'clock on
Wednesday next.

THEATItt-ROYAL.
FOR THE BENEFIT OF MR. STUART.
/AN MONDAY next, the 14th instant, will be performed
kfr Shakspeare's Tragedy of
CORIOLANUS;
on, THU ROMAN 'MATRON.
Chins Marcitis Coriolanus
(His first appearance in that character.)
After which, an entirely new Ballot of Dance and Action, called
LA DILIGENCE;
OR, THE BANDITTI OF THE FOREST.

Principal characters by the Messrs. Ridgways and Jonas and
Mademoiselle Marie.

To conclude with the admired Drama of
THERESE;
OR, THEORPHAN OF GENEVA.
Carwin (the "Advocate)
Tickets may be had of Mr. STUART, at: his Residence, 17,
Upper Beati-street; and of Mr. PAktosa, Box-office.

'fiE Eiberpool eStanbarti.

TUEStOAY) MORN ING, NOVEMBER 8, 1836:

Although we Cannot but rejoice at the prompt suppres-
sion of' the late insurrectionary attempts in France, yet
connecting them with,a train of eients that. has passed.
before our 'eyes-during=thelast thirty years, We perceive
°
in them the reMains cif a revolutionary fire' vvhioli Per-
hap& it gill ° reivire even a long period yet to come com-
,Pletely to extinguish: The'see6 of rebellion in, this re
spect resemble other seeds : they may remain long buried
Without any'ayinptorn of'vegetable life ; but no sooner
do favourable circumstances conspire'than they instantly,
germinate—soma oappeOr openly above. the
atd if nut " nipped in the bud," as has been done
soil
—il:l to
le
present occasidir,lhey' speedily blossom;' and bear
abundantly the fruit of destruction. France, it is to be
feared, has many such seed§ lying latent' in herbosoth.•
That all fears have not subsided with the suppression of
the presenvattempt is rendered obvious by the many
usual military movements obserVable in Paris. We'
hope the activity may proceed from excess of coutidn' ra‘-
titer than apprehenSion of danger.

. .
' It Will be seen in another c*Oluinn that the Anniversary
Meeting Of the Protestant Association has been held in!
LiverpOol—a meeting, as such Meetings usually are, (and
let it be mentioned to the honour of Protestant Britaini)'
most resPeetably and numerously attended. We never
witness such a scene without feeling it to be a most con-
vincing argument, as'Well as.an unequivocal 'declaration,-
in favour of that growing attachment to our Protestant
';.ieti .
rongbf likeEstabliEstablishment, which thesemeetings were originally in-.
tended to elicit There is nothing in the invitation here
given that ministers to the vitiated appetites of our na-
ture- ture-nothing to gratify, through the medium of sense,
even 'those' delightful emotions of taste,' which a culti-
vated sensibility imparts—there are no highly-wroUght
pictures of passion presented to the eye, such' as the
;drama affords to its votaries,. to awaken an intense inte-
rest.lNo ; they-who assemble 'together at a'prOteStant
tie
6 this, must have motives of a higher ord'er
a,co--='
-sUbliMe tone must he made to ribratel--senti-
ments of a . holier and more heart-subduing charaCter
must fill theit-inin4 They meet to add their seal to
their profession of venerating the altars at which their
fathers and their-forefather, 1..)r inaay generations, wor-
shipped—to express their anxiety of transmitting to their
posterity- the. name—gildrions liberty of Protestantism
which .they theaelves Ital..,;etili)yed. - They meet, that 1

the mists of papal error may be dispersed by the light of
Protestant truth—that the pure religion of the Bible may
be prOclaitned to be the acknowledged religion of the
subjects of .Britaire But there is also a deep-seated per-
sonal feeling in the Mind of the true christian, which
brings him into these PrOteStant assemblies. The Bible—
the word of God-awful expression !—is to him a trea-
sure-hottie of divine wisdom and consolation—a refuge
fiorn " the Windy storm" of temporal anxiety—a.balin
that can " minister to a mind diseased"—Can " pluck
from the Memory a tdoted'aorroW"L-Lhan "raze out the
Written troubles of the brain"—aye, and with a "sweet,"
butnot " oblivions anfickite;" can "CleanSe the foul bo-
som of that perilous stuff that weighs upon
.the heart."
He, therefore, meets to pleidriet6hiMself, and to hand
down, unimpaired, to posterity this inestimable blessing.
How does his heatt agonize when lie.looki tin'ough the
-,•, • • .
perspective of another generation, and, trembling, sees
his children forsaking that"only name under heaven.
given among Men whereby we can be saved"'—Jesus
Christ—and'intpiously, and senselessly, kneeling down
before pictures, and offering up prayers to saints who
hear not ; or blasphemously asking of the Virgin. Mary
not only to intercede f6r, but to forgive sin. Oh! wl!en
he looks 'at his fireside, and sees his evening family group
assembled round him to Itea.r that word of (4Od read to
them,' and afterwards to unite' in their petition's to 'Him
Who is the atitho'r of " every good and every perfeC't
gift," and then is awakened by the thought, that whenhe
is pasSed into' the grave and hiS children shall succeed to
his place and duties, no Bible Will be found in his habita-
tion--;•the voice of praise and'st;:plieation will be for ever
silent—well may he be aroused, and joyfully must lie
Meet irl assemblies like this to sUpport thOse Protestant
institutions which are the best, the only safeguards of
religions liberty. The infidel in his ignorance may
scoff, the Papist in his idolatry may smile; and the soci-
nian in the elation' of-Intellectual pride may contemn it;
bUt. the'genuine Christian knows, that there is an incom-
Inunicable joy io`thoie little faintly meetings, more real
and More substantial, than riot, in all its prodigality,
ever offered to sense:'

But while we thus contend for the faith once delivered

to the saints, from pei-sonal considerations we also feel
impelled to stand forward as promulgators of that faith
to the benighted people around us. It churchman and
disSenter Unite in their desire, and equally labour to en-
.. . . _

lighten ",the dark places of the earth," to instruct the
civilized idulator of China, the ignorant savage Of I\l' e
2ealand, and to diffuse the glorious light of the gospel of
truth over the frigid coast of Greenland and the scattered

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islands of Australasia, is there not a more impeiative call
to ddregs theinielves to the pbor deluded eitholiC, whose
spiritual bondage is the more glorious, because it is the

intiositiorf of treachery' and craft. if ittbe 'true, and true

'it incontestably is, what Petrarch declares, " Religio
pptidia'aeperfecta'una 'est, sufird'Clirisil.tiornen, supraque
petram ffrmissimam fundata : reliquize omnes supersti.
tionei vahw, et devi, et erreres.siirit, est itei• ad
tartarum, arque ad mortem, non !cane momentaneam sed
Cab We,'With' this terrible isifie. before us,
- • •
•hold oursehes irresponsible if we neglect_any means of
,rescuing men`—menu of rescuing' fatir follow subjects
from eternal Perdition ? And what method can be de-
vised so probable of success as that Of these protestant.
meetings ? From them
,a. loud voice that will be' heard
to the farthest shore of Britain proclaims the rriesSge of
truthfratid is .striPped of its rnik—'-libeity is putilished
to the slaves of papal tyranny—secular priestcraft is made

to tremble beneath its' gowin—and political 'oppres'sors"
Shrink back under its appalling note. If.many turn a
deaf ear to the proclatnations of these meetings; aiid,soine
are excited to' greater paroxysms of rage by them, yet
here and there the chain is unrivetted. One heart melts
at the glad tidings, and another is aroused to inquiry;
and, like every other effusion of thti-Aiirbf GOd,neithei
does this " return void."

It would be' itiperitiinus on this occasion to enumerate
the many'and deadly errors of the Church of Rome. To
them public 'attention has been drawn- by the:'brilliant
exposures of the present meeting. We most earnestly
entreat dell who have heard ancl'of all who read them
member that they are not speculative but .praCticai errors
,—not errors that involve question's of tithe, but eternity
also—not 'errors' of individual import alone, but errors
that influence in their first and' last consequences the,
well-being of society. Kings and kingdomi are the ob-
jects of its sport, and the time has been when crowns and
sceptres have been mere playthings in the papal ntii;eiy
of Rome. Bit learning, the liter humaniorei, the'pro•
gress of civilization, have meliorated, say the partizans
of papacy, this spirit of tyranny and persecution—instead
of being as he orice'vvis; Satan, " transformed itita'ari an-
gel of light," the scourge of time bath "whipped the of-
fending' deVil our of him," and .he is become the purest;
benevolence personified. What 'mean, my kind friend,
all these footsteps leading,to thy den, and not one
glum retrorsUM Oh, our eves must be obstrucied with
a fatal gutta .i.erena—our` minds 'must be the abodes of
the most stuggi'sh InslensibilitY--we' must have wiped'
away " all record" from the "tablet of the brain" which

" note or observation bath inscribed uponit before we
can credit this flattering, this delusive picture. Papacy
received on its forehead at its birth the stamp arid im-
press oferror and oppression, immutable and immitigable.
If we look at papacy, as exercising an influence over

the political welfare -only of nations, we find it like a
deadly upaa,destroying'every flower of liberty near it—
we find to it the hand 'of tyranny crushing in its grasp
every object that can favOur'civil independence. Look
at Ireland—to what lengths of enormity has the priest-
craft'Of Rotrianistu led iti'deluded'and spirit-bound sub-
jects ? What a fertile field is it' becoMe for political
agitation—What a hydra-headed'inonster of rebellion has'
it there'engendered, whiat !necks even the' sword ofjus-
tice! And Shall wUbelleve that papacy is another crea-:
tore in England ? Here it is 'the caged tiger. It may
have lost something of itsfercciOns exterior, but the un-
tnmeable heart'reniains unchanged. It is now struggling
to getfree; and, although it is still safely chained under
legal restraint, yet we cannot but perceive that if it were
emancipated from all controul it Would instantly, assume
its neturarcliaracter. We are too apt' to shimber in Se
entity When immediate 'danger does 'not awaken us to
exertion. But let us not close ou'r eyes to the indefati,
gable labours of Ronienistn• now making to recover do-
minion' in this land:: Behold in wht'quick:succesSion
her chapels are rising in every section of the country.
See with what untired assidnityler ilaVes are circulating
their pernicious tracts—observe them waiting at .the
doors of churches to drop the poisoned page into the hand'
of the unsuspecting.- Listen to their audacious, but .pd••
cious barangues, delivered befOre 'mixed multitudes of
Englishmen—insultin our very srteets with the dissemi-
nation of 'their polluting doctrines—and all these with
an*evident design to gain political ascendancy. Think,'
fellow townsthen,-of these things, alid..yciti Will see' the
prOpriety, and acknowledge the necessity of theie"prO'-'
testaut meetings.

The Right Port. the 'CliarieellOr' of the Eicheittier and his,
eldest son, Mr. 'Rice; arrived yeSterday; frOM Dublin, in liis
, MSlesty',s packet Thetis, Captain Townley: The}, proceeded
on immediately to.town,,'"Via Man Chester. , • •
lILUE COAL' HOSPITAL.—it will be seen by an advertisement
in en other tiart of to-days 'paper", that a:sertnOn will hepreSehed,
on 'Sunday next, in St. Peter's chi.kh, by the ..ReV. Rector.
Brooks, and acrillectiOn Made in aid of the funds of this iriti-
union. We understand' that bia WorShiP.,ihe.MTPi. has signi-
fied his intention of heing Present 'On the occasion.
. Sr. MARY'S CHURCH, K na ts.---We perceive, by an
announcement in another Coltinin, that the Lord BiShop of
Chester, will preach a sermon, on. Monday next, 'at -St. Mary's.
Church, Kirkdale, when a' colleCtion will be made for the pun-
, pose of providing' free sittings in. the church.
hat
THE THEATAE.—Tho lovers of the drama will perceive
a treat is provided for them-this evening. An ekeellent-
of fare" is, announced.- .The acting of; Miss Chaplin,-(whose
benefit it is,) in "The Little Jockey," as 'lire Little JUckey
has frequently been'adinired. Stuart has also announeedShek-
speare's fine iragedy.'or,‘,‘ Corielanus".for•his benefit; on Mon-
day evening, when Wequst'his:friendi will rally round 'hipfand
testify their sense of his high moils as an 'actor, by'"
albuniper."
Cl alybente
TDECELT.BRATED SPAS IN GERMAN' pro-
perties of the svi4lite NY.aters in Germsoe have Fong beer; field
!in 'high estimation,
and theii••efficacy, in alf‘l.:;.a.sx.evsir:fys,corfo
Holborn
Hill, oilier cut-anemia affections.'has been fuliv established.' .A
Cor.l
reef analysis of the powders prePar!id by
Hill, by several eminent, professors of eliemistry,has proVediliat
they contain the ,Valuable mineral tonic, On which ;he virttiii
of the real writers su much depend, in an active and fittirnpaired
state,. sail the absenceof which- in the commOn Seidlitz los
ders,
.probably accounts for their titer inefficacy in all cases'
Vet ere the genuine waters haVe proved so highly.b,r,rfici,ii. ml..
the. advantares• May . row be derived from the use a Wrey'S.
Clods-be:de Go,rmati, Se•idlitz Powders as would he experienced.
fc,,,,, anr ort!,, thirsy celebrated continental springs, the ex-
l^nce anal !r,c(!nytPielice of which, too often places it out (if the
„,,,,v ,-110 would be happy to avail themselves of their
tunoveling propeilice.—The News,

Nov. 11, 3,840,

STiIiCOND EDITION.

Standard Office, Three o'clock

LIVERPOOL MARKETS.

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CORN hXeliiilstGll.—FrirpAy, Nov.ll, 1836.
With the exception of Oats, of winch we have a MO-
aerate supply from Ireland, the arrivals of Grain, Flour;
and Oatnical,thente and coastwise, have been extremely
small since tuesdai, and (I%mi foreign ports during the
setae period; we have nu Grain or Flour froth in to

The activity prevalent in the Wheat trade for several,
weeks past, has somewhat abated since the early part of
the week, and perceiving that our prices materially sur-
paSs those of most other English marketi; there was
evi-
dently a disinclination on the part of buyers this morning
to fOIIoW their proceedingi at the exreme rates last
noted ; we have therefore to report a dull sale for
all sorts of this grain to-day, and a deCline of 2d to 3d per
70lbs from Tuesday's quotations. Flour, notwithstand-,
ing., was in Moderate request, and steady in value.—Find
new English Malting Bailey was saleable ,at 46s to 48s.
Chevalier 48s to 50S`per quarter,andfirsh grindingsam-
ples maintained late prices.—Prime Malt was also ftilly
as dear as last week.—lnßeans and Peas no Variation.—
In Oa.t.s and Oatmeal the transactions to-day were upon
a' limited scale, on the terms' previlonsly stated. 'the
prieeS of Wheat in bond having advanced too high to en-
courage any extensive eipOrts,' littlebusiness has trap
spired for that purpose; but, in anticipation of low
idu-
ties at no distant period,' about 4000 quarters, have
changed hands, at late prices, with a view to wait the
event.

PRICES.

Br. tNs, Imp. men. s d
Irish . —.... • 55 00 56 0
F cowl, 4' 230 lbs
Eng.& Irlshsup 0 CC 0
Do. fines 57 0 .. 60 0
Do, seconds
Do. thirds 0 0 0 0
N1F.A4,2401155. new 39 0 40. Oi
Do. old 36 0 .. 38 0
BRAN, 4,241h5... 2 0.. 0 0