The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1841-06-08 00:00:00

HOUSE OF LORDS.7IBADAy

The Victoria Park bill was read a third time and passed.
A great number of petitions were presented for and against
any alteration of the corn laws; one of which gave rise to a
desultory conversation, in the course of which Earl STAN-
HOPE declared that he would rather see the country governed
by the chartists than by the present ministry.
Some bills were forwarded a stage, and their lordships ad-
journed.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.--FRID•Y.
The adjourned debate on the motion of want of confidence
in the present government was resumed by Mr. SamiL, who
said that the motion, as worded by Sir R. Peel, did not con-
demn the measures proposed by the government, and, if car-
ried, would not prevent the right hon. baronet, if successful,
from bringing forward the very same measures hereafter
should he obtain the reins of government. He then referred
to the forign policy of the ministry, and asked if the house
would transfer it from the hands of Lord Palmerston to those
who, in 1829; had abandoned Turkey to Russia, and who, by
allowing the treaty of Adrianople to be entered into, had laid
the ground-work of all the difficulties which had since pre-
sented themselves in the Levant. He next defended the do-
mestic policy of the government, and contended that Ireland
would present insuperable obstacles to any government formed
under the auspices of Sir R. Peel.
Sir S. CANNING was of opinion that Lord Palmerston con-

ducted his negotiations in a spirit too exclusively English, the
result of which he feared would be that serious consequences
might be apprehended, at no distant day, to the tranquility
of Europe. If the noble lord had proceeded in a more Eu-
ropean spirit he would have acted more wisely.
Mr. C. BULLER treated the motion of Sir R. Peel as a
question altogether of party, and it was in that light only thr
the division should be considered. The hon. gentleman ;
serted that the Duke of Wellington had resigned office n
merely because of his defeat of the question of the civil list
but because of the disturbed state of the country, and the
probability of a defeat on the question of parliamentary re-
form. There was no weakness of that description in the pre-
sent government, and Lord Palmerston had acquired an in-
fluence for Great Britain in foreign councils, such as con-
trasted in a most gratifying manner with the state of things
in the latter portion of the administration of the Duke of
Wellington. The right hon. bart. found fault with ministers
for pursuing a system of conciliation, although, when he was
himself last in power, his whole policy was that of taking up
the measures of his opponents and availing themselves of
their aid in carrying them through the house.
Lord DUNGANNON declared his want of confidence in
ministers, and said that the recent elections were a convincing
proof that the ministry had lost the confidence of the people
as well as of that house. He would say, that not only was
there a want of confidence on the part of the people in the
present ministry, but a general disgust prevailed against them
for their unconstitutional retention of power after the majo-
rities which had decided against their measnres. He was
very sure if the right hon. baronet (Sir R. Peel) should find,
when in power, that his measures were not supported by the
, house he would never consent to retain office by chicanery.
Sir H. VERNEY referred to a report that Mr. Walter was
sent down by the conservative members of that house to Not-
tingham, to stand for that borough, on the principle that he
was opposed to the new poor law, although they themselves
supported that law. It was also said that he was supported
by the Carlton Club—(cries of "no "). He hoped it was
not so for the credit of the house; for, if true, a more dis-
creditable proceeding had seldom taken place. The hon.
baronet .rave his entire confidence to the government.
Col. S'IBTHORP had so bad au opinion of the present go-
vernment, that he could not give them the smallest portion of
his confidence. Their shuffling conduct was too bad for the

devil himself.
Mr. HAWES opposed the motion of Sir R. PEEL, and
'contended that the measures contemplated by government,
would give such a general stimulus to trade as would create a
revenue which would soon cover the existing deficiency.
Lord STANLEY said he thought the ministry might hare
proposed a bold and manly counter declaration to the mo-
tion of his right hon. friend, instead of by the public opposi-
tion which it had met, accompanied by a tacit admission of
the truth of his proposition. He had no doubt that the
ministry were not only without the confidence of the house,
but that they had not the confidence of their own support-
ers. This was proved by the fact, that in a number of divi-
sions upon questions of great importance, such as the ballot,
&c, they would have found themselves in an alarming mino-
rity had it not been that the conservatives had stepped in to
their aid against their own ordinary supporters. The right
hon. gentleman, Mr. Macauley, had in his speech boasted
that the 'ministry were supported by the favour of the crown,
and he had added that this was the best support a ministry
could have—(cheers). This was strange language from a
whig minister—(cheers). It was,
in fact, the most danger-
ous doctrine that could be whispered by a minister into the
ear of a sovereign of the house of Ilanover—(great cheering).
With respect to the result of their government, it was to be
remembered that if Jamaica remained tranquil it was because
they were over-ruled and controlled in the measures they
had proposed. While, on the other hand, it was admitted
that the finances of the country were in a deplorable condi-
tion from mismanagement, because in those matters the go-
vernment had acted without check or control of any kind—
(cheers). The noble lord then contended that however glad