The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1841-05-07 00:00:00

TO THE REV. DR. BUTLER

SlR,—The apostle Peter tells us that the blessed Jesus
left us an example that we should follow his steps, that when
he was reviled he reviled not again, when he suffered he
threatened not. A true minister of that Holy Saviour, sur-
rounded by hundreds of immortal souls, would have his
thoughts and his words occupied with some holier theme
than the ridicule of one opponent, and the slander of
another. He would remember, that although for a time he
might secure the laugh of the thoughtless, the careless, and
the profane, yet when he would have to render up an
account of those souls at the judgment seat of Christ, the
laugh of a moment would be a poor compensation for the
eternal frown of turn who will not be mocked, and who
cannot be escaped,
As a Minister of Christ I feel it my solemn duty thus
publicly to rebuke the desecration of his holy day of which
you have been guilty. I can truly say I do so in the spirit
of earnest, fervent prayer, that God may give you repent-
ance to the acknowledgement of the truth, and give grace to
the immortal souls who were addressed by you on Sunday
evening, to seek more suitable teaching.

We both, Sir, now occupy a most solemn and responsible
position. It is not the passing politics of a nay which has
brought our names before the public, it is the eternal inter-
ests of millions, it is God's truth, the Saviour's glory, the
sinner's hope, the saint's reward.
_We stand in a position one towards another calculated to

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that -odium theologicum" has become a proverb. And may
I ask, Sir, at such a moment, what ought to be our state of
mina? If ever a true Christian teeth hot watchfulness,
deep prayerfulness, and earnest waiting upon God, it is when
the eyes of thousands arc fixed upon him; the partizans at
one side to applaud, and those on the other to watch for his
halting; when the interests of truth are in no small degree
entrusted to Him, and the eternal destinies of many souls
are, humanly speaking, depending on his demeanour and
reasoning. Ah, Sir, had those been your feelings on Sunday
evening, the audience of St. Anthony's would have heard
something more suited to the professed purpose for which
they were assembled tha❑ the printed report of your sermon
exhibits.

The Liverpool Mercury is said to have announced that
you were to state your reasons for not meeting me in oral
discussion. You much mistake an English audience, com-
posed though it might be of persons as yet but a short time
resident in this happy country, if you think the reasons
alleged will satisfy any reflecting persons amongst them. I
shall examine your supposed proofs of my incompetency to
enable them to form a better judgment of them. They are
these :
L Mr. Baylee's " face indicated that he had been in many
a battle."

2. He "had absolutely held a cont roversy with a socialist.';
3. 'When Dr. Butler's lectures were answered, he would
meet the man who answered them in an oral discussion.

4. Mr. Baylee is a little man.
5. He is unable to write ten lines of good English
6. He is ignorant of Latin.

7. He made a mistake respecting the existing eastern
bishops.

Mr. Baylee holds the doctrine of the real presence

9. He confounds oblation with sacrifice,

10. He had thrown Martin Luther overboard. These, sir,
are all the disqualifications alleged by you according to the
published report of your sermon. A simple perusal of them
is sufficient to shew the character of the person who alleged
them. A few observations upon them, however, will not be
out of place. To some of them I plead guilty. It is true
that I have been in many a battle, and that my face indicates
it. It is true that my opponents in those battles were a Ro-
man Catholic Archbishop and seventeen priests. It is also
true that that archbishop succeeded in having my life at-
tacked, that he described me and my faithful companions as
" venernous fanatics," that one of his attendant priests ad-
vised the people to beat us off with stones, and that the arch-
bishop promised to save the people the trouble of fishing-
boats, for that, by his episcopal blessing, he would bring the
fish up on the shores, provided they would drive me out of
the island. Yes, sir, it is an awful fact that, upon the re-
commendation of a Romish Archbishop, I was a prisoner for
two days in a little island, and saved my life (under God)
only by descending a steep cliff of ;.bout 400 feet, and escaping
in a boat.

It is also true that another priest in the same diocese sent
two men after me, who nearly deprived me of life ; and that
the same priest was not ashamed to avow before a bench of
magistrates that be had ordered the people " to put me out
of their houses with pitchforks."
It is true that another priest excited the inhabitants of
another island to seize me, and that I was rescued by an
armed force, or I should have lost my life. That same
priest pleaded the cause of those men, and offered to pay
the fine inflicted upon them.
Upon another occasion, sir, I received a severe stroke,
from a stone, in my head for asserting that the consecrated
host is not God. On ten different occasions has my life been
assailed by the direct agency of Romish priests. The only
crime alleged against me was that I was " a proselytizing
adventurer."

I confess, sir. I was not prepared to find a ` chamberlain
of the pope*" in one of the most enlightened cities of pro-
testant England, making a jest of persecutions which one
would suppose policy would have led him to deny.
But you say " Whether they had been well fought battles
was another question."
That is a question to be decided before another tribunal.
Sure I am that when I meet my Saviour, and shall be like
Him, seeing Him as He is, He will have for ever blotted out
all of human infirmity that had mingled with those scenes,
and accept the service which, through his grace, the stone
and the pitch-fork did not deter me from rendering to Rim.
Our weapons, sir, did not allow an ill-fought battle. They
are enumerated in that chapter which so fearfully describes
the fall of Rome—they were the blood of the Lamb, the
word of our testimony, and loving not our lives unto the
death."—Rev. 12, 11. Those scenes often enabled us to say
with the apostle " We both hunger and thirst, and are naked
and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place—being
reviled we bless ; being persecuted we suffer it ; being de-
famed, we intreat ; we are made as the filth of the earth, and
are the off-scouring of all things."—l Cor. 4, 11-13.
Hard as such service might appear in the eyes of the
world, it was indeed a happy one ; the remembrance of it is
still sweet.

I write not this, sir, to obtain the poor applause of men,
but because I believe the occasion demands it. I trust that
then and now our hearts' desires have been " Not unto us,
0 Lord, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory."
if we may judge of a well-fought contest by results, I can
tell you, sir, that a protesting catholic congregation, wor-
shipping God in their native language (Irish,) has been per-
manently fixed in those quarters, that a faithful minister of
Christ is their pastor, and that more than 200 children are
now receiving a Christian education who would otherwise
have been asßomanists, worshipping the works of their own
hands, and giving that service and homage to the creature
which is due to the Creator.
2. Your second objection is that I had held a controversy
with a Socialist. On this ground St. Paul would have been
incompetent to meet Dr. Butler, for he disputed in a court-
house with every atheist and idolater who opposed him.

V 3. As am about to answer your lectures Ishall be able to
remove your third objection.
4. I did not at first understand the meaning of a person's
being a little man making him an incompetent theological
disputant. However, when I connected this with the former
one about the scarred face, it reminded me that physical
force, not metaphysical, is what Rome most values. You
probably forgot that you were not then delivering a lecture
at St. Clement's College, Rome ; but at St. Anthony's
Liverpool.
5,6, 9. Your sth, 6th, and 9th objections I may meet in
this way. If we meet in oral controversy, I pledge myself
to bring no prepared translation of any passage quoted by
me ; but produce the author's writings, and to read them
into " good English." Of this, sir, I am persuaded ; if
your education has been a Maynooth one, you will not do
the same.

On this score, then, we shall hear no more of incompetency

7. I re-assert that there are throughout the east, at this
day, episcopal churches descended from the apostles, and
holding no communion with Rome.
8. I do not understand, how, holding the doctrine of the
real presence could be a proof of incompetency. Dr. Butler
asserts that the scriptures teach it. Ido believe, and rejoice
in believing, that Christ really and substantially, although
not materially, but, after a spiritual and heavenly manner,
communicates himself to the soul of the devout believer, at
his holy table. Every Church of England clergyman has
sworn to his belief of it.
10. Mr. Baylee never threw Martin Luther overboard.

He simply asserted that Luther never set foot in England,
never founded our church, nor framed one of our doctrines.
Luther was indeed a glorious servant of God ; yet, lam as
far from making myself responsible for all his statements,
as Dr. Butler is from holding himself accountable for every-
thing written by St. Jerome or St. Augustine.
I have now, sir, examined all your alegations of incompe-
tency, and, for the present, conclude by assuring you, that
while I cannot respect the exhibition of character you have
shown since your coming to Liverpool, my heart's desire and
prayer to God is that you may be saved, that the souls now
led by you, and by those who think with you, to eternal ruin,
may be taught of God, and that in any future communica-
tion we may both act as men, who remember, that for every

[die word_we shall give account at the day of judgment

That the Great Giver of all Good may till us' with his Holy
Spirit, make us accordant witnesses for his heavenly truth,
and instruments in his hands of giving to many souls " the
light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of
Jesus Christ," is, sir, the earnest prayer of your obedient
servant, JOSEPH BAYLEE.
Parkfield, May 5, 1841.
* Dr. Butler designates himself as a Chamberlain to the
Pope, and formerly President and Professor of Divinity in
St. lement's College, Rome.

TIC DOLOUROUX.—We feel gratified in hearing that Mr
Cronin has been successful in completely relieving this most
agonising of all nervous affections. Most of our contempo-
raries have favorably noticed this gentleman's treatise or
this and other painful nervous affections ; the rapid sale oi
which, is the best proof how the public estimate his treat.
ment.—See advt.

PORTRAIT or NCI. COMER, ESQ.—We understand that
a portrait of this gentleman, by T. H. Illidge, Esq., is
nearly completed. The services of Mr. Illidge have beer
employed by the committee and friends of the deaf and duml
institution, in this town, of which Mr. Corner is well knowr
as a long tried and zealous friend. The likeness is admirable

VOTES OF LANCASHIRE MEMBERS.—In the division
lists upon the amendment proposed by Lord Howick in the
franchise clause of the government Irish voters bill, we find
the names of the members connected with this county in the
following order :—For the amendment, Lor4 Stanley, Mr.
Patten, Lord F. Egerton, the Hon. B. Wilbraham, Lord
Sandon, Mr. Townley Parker, Mr. Ainsworth, Mr. Black-
burne, Mr. Bolling, Mr. Cresswell, Mr. Feilden, Mr.
Greene, and Mr. Martin, in all, 13. For the original clause,
Sir H. Fleetwood, Mr. rotherton, Mr. Ewart, Mr. Fenton,
Mr. Fielden, Mr. Fort, Mr. Greg, Mr. Hindley, Mr. Mark
Philips, Mr. Standish, and Mr. Walker, in all, 11. The
names of Gen. Johnson and Mr. Turner are in the list of
absentees. If, therefore, we give the two absent members to
the minority, (and in all probability they would have voted
for the original clause) it would appear that the votes of the
members connected with this county would have been eqnally
balanced on the question. .

THE CHESHIRE HOUNDS.—Mr. Smith Barry's hunters
are to be sold off to-morrow by Mr. Lucas, at the kennels at
Sandiway-head, in Cheshire. This will be a rare opportunity
for those gentlemen who are interested in the sports of the
field and the chase to supply themselves with a capital ani-
mal. Mr. S. Barry's stud has been long celebrated for its
blood, bone, and speed. Mr. Lucas will sell also two other
lots after the sale of the stud, in both of which some first-
rate nags will be offered up to public competition. Consider-
able interest is excited in the sporting world by this sale, and
much regret is felt upon the occasion of Mr. Smith Barry's
resignation of a post he has filled with so much honour to
himself, and satisfaction to his neighbours, a many years.
CONCERTS AT THE AMPHITHEATRE.—The splendid band
now performing at the Amphitheatre, is exciting the utmost
admiration and delight amongst the musical amateurs . over-
tures, quadrilles and waltzes are played with the most brilliant
efforts, excellence and spirit. There has been nothing heard
like this band since Strauss was here ; it consists of 20 perfor-
mers, all of whom are celebrated as solo instrumentalists.
Mr. Friseh on the flute reminds us of Drouit, and Herr Muller
of Harper, but Mr. Prospere on the ophicleide stands alone.
He produces the most astonishing effects from this instru-
ment. Mr. Laurent upon the cornet a piston is very clever :
his tones are clear and his execution brilliant. Mr. Julien
on the piccolo delights all who hear him on this novel and
bird-like instrument. It is a great treat to hear this fine
band—everything is played with such spirit, that the even-
ing is over before it seems half commenced.

FEW THOUGHTS ON TETE CONTEMPLATED
REDUCTION OF THE FOREIGN SUGAR DU-
TIES.

(FROM A. CORRESPONDENT.)

I believe it will scarcely be denied, by any unprejudiced
person who has studied the subject, that our West India
colonies, already brought to the brink of ruin by the destruc-
tive policy pursued towards them. by our liberal government
during the last few years, but particularly by the thwarting
of all the measures adopted by the colonists for procuring
free labourers to cultivate their soil, are now doomed to utter
ruin, if the proposition made by the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer, to reduce the duty on foreign sugars, be carried
into effect. It may be proved as clearly as figures can show,
that the actual cost, in labour alone, of producing a hun-
dredweight of sugar, under the present defective system in
the West Indies, is more than double the whole cost of pro-
ducing an equal quantity in a slave country. What, then,
is the use of a protecting duty of 50 per cent. as proposed
by government? It would be just as well for the West In-
dian that they were equalised at once, as he can no more
compete with the planter of Brazil or Cuba on the terms
proposed, than he can without the aid of any protecting duty
whatever.

The immediate reasons assigned by the government for
proposing so sweeping a measure, at present, are—.

I. The very high-prices paid for the article of late,
the cottsevelttlAtldet ou kk\t. tottukt Itt st)lll\vci
an element of consumption.
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try, which must be recruited from soy;;;rce7 And
The benefits to our manufacturing, interest,
it is asserted, would result from an application of the
principles of free trade to foreign sugar-growing coun-
tries.

Let us examine the bearing of these points a little in
detail.

I. The first, though certainly a serious evil, particularly to
the poorer inhabitants of this country, is not one of unmiti-
gated severity to its general interests, as it is solely by its
influence that the existence of our West India colonies, as
productive dependencies of the British crown, has of late
been preserved, in the face of the tremendous falling off in
the production of their staple commodities, consequent on
the want of labour; and the very enhanced rate at which
that diminished quantity has been produced. But this
evil, already in process of being remedied by the
enlarged imports from our East India possessions, may

. .
be entirely removed without the enormous sacrifice
which the adoption of the Chancellor's plan involves, by
simply encouraging the resort from various quarters, but
particularly from Africa, of a class of labourers adapted to
the soil and climate of those Colonies. The cause why
such prohibitory restrictions have been laid on the
stream of emigration that promised at one time to pour
into so excellent a labour market, was the outcry against what
they called a revival of the slave trade, raised by individuals
of that very party who are now loudest in their exclama-
tions for the virtual encouragement of slavery and the slave
trade, which would inevitably follow the adoption of the pro-
posed measure. To such contradictory results are we led by
a blind adherence to the principles of (so called) expedien-
cies. We see then that government, after having by the
policy it has pursued of late years, produced an evil now ac-
knowledged to exist, instead of endeavouring to apply such a
remedy as would form some, though but a tardy reparation
to the interests most aggrieved, attempt to neutralize its ef-
fects by a plan, which will certainly give the death-blow to
those they have already so deeply injured, and utterly rejects
a principle of their own, which has been ever one of their
rallying cries, and the maintenance of which they have consi-
dered cheaply purchased at the price of £20,000,000 of
money, an annual expenditure of many thousands ofpounds,
and the sacrifice of the lives of hundreds of our fellow-sub.
jects. It is indeed time that this principle of expediency in
legislation should be numbered with the things that were,
and that our legislators should learn that when a great leading
principle is once affirmed, it should not be wantonly rejected,
whenever " the pressure from without," or any other tempo-
rary excitement, assails it. Unless the country has some gua-
rantee that such are the views of those in high places, and
that in their hands the great bulwarks of property arc safe
from the turbulent waves of popular commotion, society will
lose its stability ; and when its foundations are once sapped,
and the superstructure " nods to its fall," all the nostrums
of political economists and legislative charlatans will be in-
sufficient to prevent its speedy and tremendous downfall.
11. Let us next examine the second reason assigned for
this change in the sugar duties, viz.,

The pressing exigencies of the revenue, which shows a very
serious deficit, and must be recruited from some quarter. I
will not enter here on the vexata queestio of what has caused

this deficiency, further than to mention that the principal
ones assigned are the increased expenditure on the navy and
army, particularly the former, in consequence of the warlike
aspect of affairs during the past year, and the actual hostili-
ties carried on in two quarters of the globe (nud which, in
one case at least, cannot yet be dispensed with), and the de-
ficiency arising from the new post-office regulations. Now,
we put it to the sense of justice of the country, whether a
debt, incurred for the support of measures considered
necessary for the preservation of the peace of Eu-
rope, for the placing of our commercial relations with
the Celestial Empire on a more favourable footing, or
for the obtaining such a great national boon as the penny
postage has undoubtedly proved, should be defrayed by ruin-
ing the prospects of our West Indian fellow-subjects, who
have derived no benefit from the operation of either of the
causes which have led to the present unfavourable aspect of
our financial relations. I see no very wide difference between
such a proceeding, and that of the man, who, feeling the in-
convenience of an empty exchequer, sallies forth, and knocks
down the first unprotected person he meets, whose purse
appears heavier than his means of protecting it are pow-
erful.

111. Let us now just glance at the third division which has
been made of this subject, viz. the expected benefits which
it is asserted will result to our manufacturing interests, from
an extension of the principles of free trade to foreign sugar-
growing countries.

In dilating on this subject, its supporters do not seem to
we taken into their calculations the immediate falling off.

md ultimate annihilation of our exports to the West Indies,
(which, in proportion to the number of inhabitants, consume
more of our manufactures than any other part of the world,
except our Australian colonies), and the serious reduction of
those to our sugar-growing possessions in the East, which
would inevitably follow, on the introduction of the pro-
posed alteration in the tariff—a diminution which would
infinitel)

more than counterbalance any increase, a larg

portion of which too is for export, to the., unhappy slaves of
Africa, to be bartered for human beings. For it must be re-
membered that the free labourer of the West Indies has now
jecome a large consumer of the manufactures of this coun-

try, and is rapidly acquiring a taste for the comforts of life,
which, with a prosperous state of that country, would go on
increasing; which the poor slave who labours on in hope his
bondage, for the aggrandizement of his master, partakes not
of the benefits for which he toils, but still plods on his weary
round, in no respect differing from the beasts of burden,
who are his fellow-slaves, save in the possession of those
higher hopes and aspirations which must only add to the bit-
terness of his state of degradation.' 'Let not, therefore, the
manufacturer delude himself by the idea that he is opening
new and extended vents from his merchandize, when he is
seconding the efforts of those who seek for selfish ends, to
bring about this change—rather let him throw the weieht of
his influence into the opposite scale, where with his own

truest interests, he will find associated the efforts of the
phi-
lanthropist, andthe fervent wishes of all who wish their country
well. Although our governmenthas everappeared very forward
in asserting the rights of the negro population of the West

Indies, and have shown quite as little scruples in discarding the
claims of the planters, they do not seem to have sufficiently
taken into consideration, when planning their recent attack
on the West India interests, the consequences which will
result, from its success, to that very population. What is
to prevent their returning to the same state of wild and
savage nature—to which undoubtedly the soil now smiling
under the influence of civilization, And so capable of indeed
becoming " a land overflo.whig with milk and honey," will
speedily return—when the Europeaii,with his skill and capital,
is driven to take refuge in some other clime, where his

:erests have the advantage of some more fostering pro

tection. This is no idle theory ; the state of St. Doniiiigo.
now rapidly returning to that state of primeval nature in
which it was before Columbus landed on its fruitful shores,

a melancholy evidence of what the neg; population will
lo when the master spirit of the European has fled and left
hem to themselves.

Let us remember that by the ruin of the West Indies we
will show practically to the world, that all our noble and dis-
interested efforts for the amelioration of the Negro race
have proved abortive ; impression will be confirmed that
they are unfitted for any higher purposes than to be our
hewers of wood and drawers of water; the shackles of the
captive throughout the world will be rivetted beyond the pos-

bility of being severed, and the last ray of hopeloiii;Cl
on in the scale of humanity be quenched for ever.

REPRESENTATION OF SANDWICH.—We have reason to
believe that Mr. H. H. Lindesey, a staunch Conservative,
will start.for Sandwich, in the room of Sir Rufanc Donkiti,
deceased.
A SHROPSHIRE PATRIARCH.—Died on Sunday week.

aged 106 years, Francis g, of Shepton Fields, in the
full possession of all his mental and great part of his corpo-
real faculties. Mr. Wilding, throughout the extended period
during which he existed, was mostly occupied in farming and
sheep-rearing, on a farm he held under lease from an ances-
tor of the present Hon. Mr. Powys, of Berwick, in which
family he held a situation as upper servant 80 years ago.
After he had turned his 80th year, he began again to conduct
the farm of which he held the lease, his relatives having ta-
ken one of greater extent : and when calling on the trades-
men of the town to order the necessary articles, he laughingly
entreated them to deal tenderly with him, he being a young
beginner ! Up to the third year before his death he uni-
formly attended in the harvest field, and presided at the table
on his own sheep shearing festival.—Shropshire paper.

SUICIDE.—Mr. Richard Minshall, a facetious, shrewd,
and clever man, long known in the neighbourhood of Oswes-
try for his convivial powers, and his sarcastic drollery, has
become a victim to sunken spirits and altered habits. All
his family, he said, had died in the 49th year, and he, being
just that age, could not break the charm. On Saturday last,
during the temporary absence of his wife, and whilst several
persons were in the house with him, he was observed by a
child to come into his parlour and gaze around the room as if
registering in his mind its contents, and then went up stairs
towards his bed-room. Some one having called in the shop,
on business of importance, the child called out for Mr. M
shall, and receiving no answer, became alarmed, and applied
to a neighbour to see what had become of him, and on pro-
ceeding up stairs, they were horrified at finding the body
suspended from a nail in the wall, by a very slight cord, with
which he had contrived to deprive himself of life, although
his body was on the ground. All attempts to restore anima-
tion were fruitless, the jerk he had received on his first falling
having destroyed him.—Shropshire paper.

FREEMASONRY.—There cannot be a doubt but Touch of
the prosperity of the order has been owing to the Freema-
sons' Quarterly Review ; which, by offering x vehicle for re-
cording its proceedings in every part of the globe, has intro-
duced a spirit of emulation amongst the lodges, to compete
with each other in promoting the holy feelings of brotherly
love and charity. This invaluable record displays moral
worth and active diligence wherever it is found to exist, and
while any remissness in the masonic authorities receives it:
proper stimulus, a steady and regular discharge of duty pro-
duces applause. Hence the craft is highly indebted to this
periodical, for the benefits it has conferred on the institution ;
and its prolonged existence forms a striking feature in the
history of freemasonry at the present momentous period.—
Dr. Oliver's History of Freemasonry, 1829 to 1840.

UNFORTUNATE OCCURRENCE. —Onevening
—0 Saturday an
unhappy occurrence took place on the road between this cat)
and the village of Cambuslang. It appears that a collier
named John Dunn, and his wife, who live at Eastend, where
the former is employed in a colliery, bad been at Cambusiang
on business, and were returning home betwixt ten and eleven
o'clock, when they were overtaken by two individuals, both
ehliychthoecccuor collision
d i:::
,
of whom move in a respectable sphere of life, and who wtru
walking into the city. Some altercation took place between
nugn
the parties, in consequenceof aujnorsotrlit
passing upon the footpath, and
ended in violence. One of the gentlemen, it appears, had tt
stick in his possession, and it for the purpose of striking
the collier, when the latter seized it with a view of wrestin:.
it from his grasp. The stick, it appears, was what tlicv ciP
a spear stick, and, in the struggle, the collier unwittin.
unsheathed the weapon. His opponent, it is alleged,
plunged the spear into the right side of the poor c 11'
received a dreadful wound, of which it ihs.pr.oblemoatD:4,-„-.
ther be may recover or not, part of
under very dangerous circumstances, intestines;
wound.— Glasgow Matitatiortal. tlrcitTtkcled• 6.1)k".

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committee

tooth, Earle, and the Mayor.
gentlemen were then appointed upon the
ladstone, Mr. John Holmes, Mr. Freme,

The five followin
Mr.(
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Mr. SHELL obt

WEST INDIA M

MUSES ON SUNDAY

hr well

—.6 of Birkenhead with reference to
nor in the bill now before the lords, for
to light Birkenhead and seventeen
, and to supply Birkenhead with
, was there any exclusive privilege ; but still, if the
commissioners and inhabitants of Birkenhead are of opinion,
-I-- the powers for lighting with gas, and supplying with
to this township, be better solely in the
- their case against the bill in that
flie consideration of par-

liament.

would b
And tl

...le Town-clerk reports, that it is represented
..nhead commissioners appointed by the council,
one course pursued with regard to the gas and water
now in parliament, the commissioners have been deprived
of the opportunity of submitting their case to the fair consi-
deration of the committee of the commons, and now it is
necessary to bring that case before the lords, with a repre-
sentation of the circumstances under which the bill has
passed through the commons. That in this matter the
council are concerned merely as a landed proprietor in the
township of Birkenhead.
The minutes of the committee contained a report from the
surveyor, touching the improvement of Myrtle-street. The
report set forth that the present width of Myrtle-street,
from Mulberry-street to Crown-street, is 13 yards. The
following estimate is calculated to extend it to 18 yards wide :
From Hope-street to Mulberry-street arrangements have
been made, and allowed by the Court of Chancery, for
`ling back the houses to be built thereon three yards on
from the present line of street; thus leaving the
house to house 22 yards, and the street 16

from area to area. Should this part of the street be
made 18 yards wide (the same width as Hardman-street is
intended to be) it will be necessary to purchase from the
executors of the late Mr. Thomas 420 square yards, esti-
mated, with the expense of flagging, &c. at £399. Should
the street be continued of the same width from Mulberry-
street to Bedford-street, it will require the destruction of
five houses, estimated to be worth £4032; deducting £BOO
for the value of the materials, and adding £7O for paving,
&c. £3307. The land between Grove-street and Laurel-
street is unbuilt, from which 300 yards would be required,
valued, with the expense of flagging, &c. at £390. The
remaining part of the land on the north side to Crown-street
belongs to the Corporation, from which 730 yards would be
required, which, with the flagging and making the street the
additional width, is valued at £693. Total cost of the im-
provement in front of the unbuilt land, £1482. There
would still remain a frontage of about 225 yards now built
upon, lying about the centre of the street, exclusive of the
houses, 60 yards in length, before referred to, between Mul-
berry-street and Bedford-street. There then would remain
two parts of the street, about £285 yards in length, about
13 yards wide only, unless the very serious expense is to be
incurred of purchasing the various buildings which would
amount to from £B,OOO to £lO,OOO.
Mr. EARLE moved, that it is to he regretted that Myrtle-
vet was not originally laid out of greater width, and that
-ould be inexpedient to make any purchase of houses
.c, but that the Finance Committee be directed
to take such measures as they may deem advisable, to widen
the street to the new line from Grove-street to Crown-
street, by the purchase of such lands as may be vacant. Mr.
Earle contended that it would not cost more than £2BO to
widen from Grove-street to Laurel-street, arid thus a good
street might be made at light expense. The remainder of
street could be widened at some future period. Mr.
-t forth several reasons why he deemed the proposi-

it
already buil

tion expedient.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE seconded the motion, and ex-
-d his conviction that the measure was highly desirable,
—hen so much could be effected at so small a cost.
~.otion was opposed by Messrs. Hugh Hornby,
Bir-
Shell, Thornhill, Parker, John Holmes, Case, and Sir
Joshua Walmslev, and supported by Messrs. Henry Law-
rence, Barclay, and Cooper. The opinions generally ex-
pressed against the motion, were, that there were many
other streets in the heart of the town which it was more
necessary to widen than the street in question, which had
but small claim to any such favour, and that the extent of
improvement now asked for was but a commencement upon
which to ground a farther claim. The supporters of the
motion argued that the street was a great and increasing
thoroughfare, and that it was expedient, as a matter of pru-
dent foresight, to widen it now, so as to avoid a much
greater expense at some future period.
The council divided, when there appeared for Alderman
Earle's motion, 31, against it 18—Majority 13.
Mr. BIRKETT wished to introduce a motion on the subject
of the Inland Bonding Bill. The Mayor said it was out of
order to introduce a motion on a subject which was not
alluded to in the report of the Finance Committee, before
report had been disposed of. Mr. Birkett persisted,
lgain called to order. Mr. Birkett said he would
then move that the present report be confirmed, and that it
be an instruction to the Finance Committee to take the
subject into consideration. It was understood that a report
of the Town-clerk on the provisions of the bill would be
brought forward. The Mayor again decided that Mr. Bir-
kett was out of order, but Mr. Birkett pressed his motion
notwithstanding, and appealed to the Town-clerk. The
Town-clerk thought, inasmuch as the Finance Committee
• -iced the proceedings iu all bills, and had not mentioned
Mr. Birkett might move an instruction on the
~ Mr. Henry Lawrence, Mr. Evans, Mr. Case, Mr.
kikm, and Mr. Hugh Hornby differed from the Town-clerk,
and appealed to the standing orders. Mr. Birkett perse-
vered, and a long debate ensued on the subject, several
members expressing their opinion, that it was unprecedented
to make an appeal from the chair to the law adviser on a
joint of order, and Mr. Hornby showing that the council

I was a

lis, that

subject

had the power of altering and making their own rules for
their guidance. The Town-clerk concurred, and ultimately
Mr. Birkett gave way.

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J. Smith, G. H. Lawrence, 4. Smith, jun., and Harbord

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MAY on made no reply.
SHIEL defended the appointment, and, in the course
d he would not take upon himself the un-
because he did not himself
that that man's religion

o saying

—...,‘ .0: tits motion :—That the of his remark.
—...,,,Lee be instructed to apply to government, and, warrantable prt s
it necessary, to parliament, and to adopt every practicable agree with the rebb
means to obtain the appointment of Liverpool as the West was necessarily wrong. •
India Nail Station. The MAYOR then put the question, and the numbers were—
The motion was seconded by Sir JOSHUA WALMSLEY, For the amendment.
and carried unanimocsly. I Against it „

n of one

The minutes of the watch committee, embodied a recom- Majority against the amenarnent.... o
mendation, that the metropolitan police act clause, for re- The proceedings were then confirmed.
stricting the opening of public-houses until one on Sunday The proceedings of the HEALTH COMMITTEE were next
afterne— inserted in the Liverpool local acts read and confirmed.

amendment and police bill. The committee had come to a SCHOOLS IN THE BOROUGH GAOL.
resolution, that it would be expedient to introduce the clause, The MAYOR said, before Mr. Parker proposed the motion
unless the government should proceed to bring in a general of which he had given notice, " that the schools attached to
act. It was found that no public bill could be expected, but the borough gaol be under the immediate superintendence
that the governMent would introduce the clause into the local and direction of the chaplain of the gaol," he would mention
act. The committee had also learned that the metropolitan that the gaol was regulated by acts of parliament, and regu-

which clearly defined -the duties of chaplain and ma-
. The chaplain had the superintendence of the

- ;
bill had worked exceeilin
The MAYOR read the memorial of the licensed victuallers gistrates.
against the measure, passed at the meeting held by them on schools.
Saturday last. Mr. PARKER asked the town-clerk whether he was in
Sir JOSHUA WALMSLEY moved the confirmation of the order to move the resolution.
thP if the 42d clause, The TOWN-CLERK said this motion, if carried, could be

minutes, and supported the introduction o. .... -
Mr. THORNHILL seconded the motion. of no service, the regulation of the gaol being altogether in
Mr. Bum Err, seconded by Mr. TOULMIN, moved that the justices.
the provision be extended seven miles round Liverpool. Mr. PARKER said he had no objection to put the motion
The TOWN-CLERK said this would be fatal to the whole in the form of a recommendation.
bill. • The TOWN-CLERK repeated his statement, adding, that it
~... ,-,_______ _ 2_ __ _t„_„.-t..„..,.1, cunnerted the intro. there was any abuse, it was the duty of the council to bring

I it forward.
Mr. PARKER said that would answer his purpose. Soon
after he had been elected a member of this council, he went

to the borough prison, amt was tom ny ine guycluu. ...
there had been no boys' school there since the 25th March
last, although there were 70 boys in that prison. He next
asked the chaplain if he had the superintendence of them,
and he said if he had he should have thought it his duty to
'have taken care that the school was not left without a teacher
till the office of master could be filled up. He knew he
should be told that the chaplain bad the superintendence,
but the chaplain told him if he had be should introduce some
very different things ; and here he (Mr. Parker) would men-
tion, that no books were introduced except those used in
the corporation schools. He then looked at the girls schools,
••

where he saw about 30 scholars, and the Roman Catholic
mistress was expounding the Scriptures to them. Perhaps
.4....„1,1 that the oreatest number of the'boys were

ne SnOWL! ue LULU LUC Gal,OV •••••••••,.... -
Roman Catholics. He was glad of that, because it spoke a
good deal in favour of our Protestant faith.
Mr. ISAAC HOLMES seconded the motion.
The MAYOR stated that yesterday the chaplain expressed
himself perfectly satisfied with the regulations.
Sir J. WALMSLEY said the chaplain had power to int-

'oul4 certairtlypr4aee
least posible delay.

110:11, IliCuntitu
house then, resumed, and the Cp.AtitmAN obtained
• sit again on the 17th of May.
:louse then resolved itself into committee on the Cri-

Mr. W. PATTEN proposed two clauses, one to confirm, in
some particulars, the charter of Manchester, and the other
to provide compensation for certain officers.
Mr. M. PHILIPS thought the proposal an insult to the
people of Manchester. In fact, they were now asked to buy
off the opposition to the charter by giving some thousands of
the money of the rate-payers to those who had so long per-

sisted iu opposing it.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL and Mr. C. BuLLEn opposed
the clauses, which were supported by Mr. CRESSWELL.
After some discussion the first clause was withdrawn, and
the committee divided upon the second clause, which was
negatived by a majority of 128 to 73.
Lord F. EGERTON moved a clause to exempt Bolton from
the operation of the bill.
After some discussion the committee divided, and the
clause was negatived by a majority of 75 to 31.
The house then resumed, the other orders of the day were
disposed of, and the house adjourned.

HOUSE OF LORDS

—TuESDAY.
read a third time and

The South Australian bill was

passed.
The Marquis of NowMANBY moved the third reading of
the drainage of towns bill.
The Duke of WELLINGTON moved that Oxford should be
exempted from the operation of the bill, on the ground that
it had already local commissioners for that purpose under an
act of parliament. •
After some conversation the motion was agreed to, and the
bill was read a third time and passed.
The Marquis of NORMAN av moved the third reading of the
borough improvements bill.
The Earl of RIPON moved that Birmingham should be in-
serted in the schedule at the end of the bill, in order that the
act might be carried into operation by the local commis-

6iiii,ititlYo Vitelitfftlifte

TUEgDAY, MAY 4.—Wind E., moderate

Anitivsa,—Neptimus, —; and Hunter, —, from Wismar
—Gardiner, new harque—Diamond, —, from Rhthlin Island,
with cotton from the Matthew Bell

sack, fot Bombay—Jane, Molloy, for Demerara—Stormont, Isbister,
for Belize—Frances, Corkhill. for Barbados—Caledonia, M'Kellar,
for Halifax and Boston—Silvanns Jenkins, Seymour, for New York
—Leo, Steel, for Montreal—William, Mackwood, for Hamburgh—
Vigilant, Samons, for Ostend—Gezina Petroneila, Nagel, for Liebau
—Henriette, Dc Voort, for Antwerp—George, Heritlau, for Narva—
Zeldenrust, Honig, for Zwolle

Zoulda, Brien, hence at Trinidad.
Bonanza, Cragg, hence at Lima.
Glenarm, Gruben, and Dryad, Rickerty, hence at Valparaiso.
Robert Whiteway, Bartlett, sailed from Valparaiso 3d January,
and Arkwright, Dambrell, Bth January, both for Huasco.
Saracen, Pucker, hence at Almeira.
Freedom, Tyrer, and Fenella, Smarden, hence at Gibraltar.
R. H. Allen, Storey, from Newcastle, at Gibraltar, and sailed for
this port.
Denison, Jones, hence to Antigua, was spoken '2oth April, in lat
49, long. 8

Gregory Bogosloff, Turleff, hence for St. Petersburg, at Longhope.
Betsey. Ivey. from Smyrna at Gibraltar, and cleared 20th April
for this port.
Thomas Fielden, Smith, from Valparaiso, and Secret, Davies,
from Lima, at Iquique, and were to sail for Arica 12th January.
Christiana, from Valparaiso, at Iquique.
Duke of Wellington, -, hence at Bremen
Catherine, Vatilmar, and Handelaars, -, hence at Texel
Coburg, Neen, hence at Bromershaven
Providence, Grave, hence at Ostend
Tiber, -• hence at Bahia
Morgiana, Duncan, hence for Pernau, passed the Pentland Frith

sioners.
After some conversation their lordships divided, and the
motion was carried by a majority of 69 to 36.
Lord LYNDHURST then moved that Birmingham should be
altogether exempted from the operation of the bill.
The Marquis of NORMANDY and the Marquis of LANs-
DOWNE opposed the motion ; but, after some conversation,
the Marquis of Normanby declined to press his opposition,
though he still objected to leave Birmingham out of a bill in-
tended to benefit every town in the kingdom.
• The motion of Lord Lyndhurst was then agreed to, and
passed.
Their lordships then adjourned.

The House of Commons did not sit on Tuesday

HOUSE OF LORDS.—WEDNESDAY
The House of Lords did not sit to-night.

23d April
Huskisson, -, hence for Africa, was spoken in lat 33, long 15
Victoria, of Liverpool, was spoken lsth April, in lat 44, long 29
Traveller, Russell, hence for Newfoundland at Crookhaven, leaky
Lorina Thompson, Bell, from Alexandria for Clyde, at Crookhaven
Minerva, Mauld, hence for Civitia Vechia, off Malaga
STORNOWAY, April 26.—The Elizabeth Ann, Lowwood, from Li-
verpool to Fisherow, was driven on the rocks on this harbour during
a heavy gale, 24th instant, and must discharge

WEDNESDAY, MAY s.—Wind South.
A RlClVED.—Elizal;eth Grimmer, M'Kenne) , from Charleston
Independence, Nye, and Eutau. Rockett, from New York—Anne,
Seagre, from Gergenti—A-la-Mode, Bartlett, from Leghorn—
Tiger, Montgomery, from Palermo—Enchantress, Meusome, from
Smyrna—Wave. Tugley, from Bilboa—Louisa Maria, Weeks, from
Seville—Jane, Evans, from Lisbon—Mauney, Steel, from Oporto—
Ashburton, Bulkeley, from Terceira—Redbreast, Bence, from Na-
ples—Harinoilie, --, from Amsterdam—Barbara Catherine,
Onruth, from Antwerp—Marquita, Boomgard, from Groningen—
Hermes, Ramen, and Hans, Nieman, from ltostock--Geeziena,
, from and Presto, Rogerson, from Stettin.
SAll.Eu.—Frances, Wescott, for Quebec—Oberon, Hoodless, for
Lima —Sphynx, Conn ibeer, for Gibraltar—Novo Felix, Ti intdade,
for Oporto—George Palmer, Hibbs, for Cronstadt—Sarah. Lowe,
for Narva—Alida, Boughts, and Petrel, Allen, for Rotterdam—
and Packet, Milligan, for Stettin. •

LIVEIU 004 COTTON MARKET, Mivi 4,
A moderate inquiry for Cotton to-day, and Op sales arc
estimated at 1,000 to 1,200 bales, at yesterday's prices.

COTTON MARKET, lklAy 5.
A very moderate inquiry for Cotton-day, and not more than 2000
bales have been sold at previous prices, all to the trade.

COTTON MARKET, MAY 6

The intelligence received by express from India, overland, is
quite in accordance with previous expectation, viz. of a very un
certain and vacillating character, and much calculated to increase
the gloom and dulness pervading our market for all kinds of pro-
duce. In Cotton we continue as before with very little general de-
mand; to-day one house has purchased 1000 bales, one half for
export, and the other on speculation, which with the daily supply
of 2000 to the trade, makes a total of 3000 bales, at yesterday's
prices, or a shade easier in favour of the buyer.

LIVERPOOL PROVISION MARKET

MAY 6

Holders of Butter have become panic stricken,-the reports from
Ireland being, that the make will be most abundant, and in the
mean time, supplies are daily more liberal. So rapid is the decline
in price, that it is difficult to give a fair quotation. %\'e may, how.
ever, venture to say that lOss would purchase the most favourite
brands to-day.