The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1838-11-20 00:00:00

INFIDELITY versus SOCIALISM•

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL ST-01)1111,1„, of
Sitt,—l have observed a notice placarded on the ei:id" on
this town, announcing a PUBLIC Disc usstoN, to be bi,ileset!
Tuesday evening next, between a person calling
" The Pet.. R. Curiae," and a'` Mr, Lloyd Jones;" °lt; pc!'
occasion the former gentlemen undertakes to prove 00'4 eee
of Robert Owen's-principles of SOCIALISM, WhiCh e'er/oil
knows are founded in infidelity. Hence some Pe,"" :1
be induced to suppose that this " Rev. R. Carlile' Is is at the
vocate of Bible Christianity, and even a minister
essery
Gospel in some christian society, whom it may be Dec; sear!
to undeceive. He is the same individual wh" sflt.l,l;lilY
ago exhibited himself as the avowed champion of in",(„beri
-and who, in-conjunction with the equally Reverend opt-
Taylor," traversed the kingdom for the purpose of
ing their diabolical principles of atheistical bl3,lPine to
According to Mr. Carlile's Own testimony, recentlY ve,, von'
print, in M.S. correspondence, and in vei bat conver,jalie no
I know that his principles of infidelity hare widen-
v 7 en'
change; and that he is now the paid agent of a sad '1;,
gaged in their promulgation. Mr. Carlile has lall'hre;(lees
flounced himself as a "Trinitarian Christian," but
other"
not believe in the existence of a God, or of anY"
in the universe, except that of man, which lie asset -I,fler
the intellectual offspring of a material world, whichly,"
tv
object constitutes "the FATHER" in Mr. C.'s ,Trip' t).l tld
whom, however, he explicitly denies the posses'the
faculties tatnl
of intelligence,
atheistical system of falsehood and deception, the homer Wir
conception, or design. In „0 se-
is " the SoN," and its isighest, principles or qualities he les'
dom abd affectinn, "the. HOLY GHOST!" Sucb j5,the01a,,,1
tore of the flimsy mask which this'arch-livpocrite ' egtrsr
haS thrown overhis immutable atheism, as a lere.
One ary aouls,in the meshes of his tissue of atheistic inv.r.
n
Your insertion of this caution in your excellent paluvoity in
therefore, confer a benefit on the Christian coon
this town, and oblige
Liverpool, 19th Nov., 1838.

A BIBLE CIIRISTIAS,

TO THOMAS HARVEY, ESQ.

I
frond
Stu —On my reaching home this evening. Pt.or
special plea of justification of blowing hot aud
"
tame you deem yourself one of the members, as eols, „.
the ward, and, therefore consider us your coustintud ott,
in g a right to an explanation of your conduct, citeul3ll.t. A
account for your honouring me with one of yoor,
node of
In sending out circulars. N. have adopted a Ile'
)I.„atise
councilman explaining his condudt, which gt'es I o.ith
your future activity in our service. • .110 rc•
As you conclude your plea (rather (login sett,fat
,tie
these words—"To my mind these claims are I beg "4fed
you will, of course, form your own judgment."
you my judgment, which is, that your defence, e‘r oggras
as it was,) is not made out, and that you "It' (die
your conduct than justify it. ing „Pu 6
In your straightforward proceeding, ;
in resign
situation. and refusing "to consult the own-i elec".o;
hoped better things of you. and have often said, th"
ust oily
you would make a good .councillor' but I !", and clt tbe
otherwise, when I find your conduct as cau(11"" „e, ft° by:
cillor, is so much at variance ; and I begin to otl.l, dest7 the
Solicitorship to the Dock Estate, was not 5" e.t; 5. 8°
that the work was laborious the clients edgew` ' e net
remuneration inadequate.
should take cfd p,l4e
Your special plea saris "'every man on 5101°`1 e
to concede a principle!' 1 say also every !" shttu.lt
eare not to violate a principle—awl, therefottc,a,rthe
been much better satisfied if yon had taken
it
t+tler disroti,!,
preparing a plea which could have justifiet.a7:for „or yo
of ail principle, in submitting to he it candid:o „,11,_nt t,
after yoo had sat in judgment upon the b0!,,,e to con- ,na
told us in your address ;bat you were t eqUeSkw;
be nominated, en far back as toy' 105,!, office a rWI
had every opportunity of resigning 11)... october..,,„,tien
assessor, before the revision took place to
.oor resle`'would
you acted the indelicate part of deloYint-to)orslf. lltirtends
until after the revision, is best known to Y
your persona
ur
at
have been more satisfactory to some or
.ou beid ror.
and supporters, as well as to myself, had )._ovosrd 10101
in the council (which you petsonally
ardently) under less sus
as your resignation twfore the day of revision.fitre, h' A. I
no mom for remarks of an unpleasant i",l (pc count-cise
will not be g e..3ced so long as you remain teoveer
picious circuitatice:(,),:ifts•leflee,ifrt
fancy you deemed it more suitable to ,t,,,i'leorporttriu.'"eot,
the lists yourself: and as the act saYsT sa. long ,
may resign his office at any time. On l'") in
-if,' safe 6% of the
eluded yttur seat, if returned. would be cl",'6o,gardl*:ll,.ede a
you fulfilled the-letter of the law, though e. to, c
" Every man should take 'care
oss
principle." ~
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• ROVNEY-STKL e
Saturday ei!Oriing- •