The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1847-02-16 00:00:00

Feb. 16, 1847.

Emptrial paritamint.
HOUSE OF LORDS.—MONDAY.
Earl FITZWILLIAM moved for a return of all sums of
Money advanced as loans by the imperial legislature, of
Ireland since the union; specifying also how far the con-
ditions of such loans had been complied with.
Lord BROUGHAM thought that the return moved for
would form a very valuable document. As to the punc-
tual repayment talked of, he had his own opinions on that
Point. However, if there were any delusion abroad, the
sooner it was dispelled the better. He held in his hand
another return from those unhappy people, the inhabit-
slits of Liverpool. (Hear, and a laugh.) Really, it was
th
110 laughing matter for them.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE willingly bore his testi-
111°enY to the generosity and activity, in affording relief, of
People of Liverpool ; and expressed his confident hope
that the measures in progress would be found as efficaci-
Ohs as their authors anticipated.
Lord MONTEAGLE feared that distress in Ireland must
always--unless, indeed, they were to resort to some such
measures as stopping the freedom of intercourse between
the two countries—be a matter in which the people of
England would be as much interested as those of Ireland.
The motion was agreed to.

• ROUSE OF COMMONS.—MONDAY.
Monday,i4ld JOHN RUSSELL gave notice of his intention, on
the 22d inst., to submit a financial statement to
the house.
On thelnestion of going into committee on the Des-
titute Persons (Ireland) Bill, a recriminatory debate took
Place in reference to the conduct of Irish landlords, in
which Mr. B. OSBORNE complained that exceptional cases
'of abuse Of government grants, and a poor-law mal-ad-
Ministration were made the foundation of general charges.
lie attacked the member for Paisley, Mr. Hastie, by
name.

lIAsTIE replied, that in order to place the rental
of Ireland on an equality of rating to the poor with the
rental of England and Scotland, it ought to coniribute to
their support at least from £1,500,000 to £1,800.,0440 an-
/Wally. The rental of Ireland assessable to the poor was
estimated at not less than £15,000,000 ; in England that
rental would be taxed ten per cent; and when the pro-
perty of the landlords of- Ireland was placed upon an
equality with that of this country, then only could they
•hhve a right to ask for assistance in time of need. But at
present, if they would promise to do their best to repay
what was advanced, no one would deny them that assist-
"awe.

The house then went into committee, and the bill passed
through.
The Brewing from Sugar in Breweries and Distilleries
'Bills also went through committee, and the Customs
'.—"ties Bill Was read a second time.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—TUESDAY.
funldO3TrleceSTiAvedNLbuyy presented a petition from the church-
win de is of Manchester, on the subject of the parochial
the dean and canons of the Collegiate
Church of that parish, and who claimed to be exempt by
their charter, on the payment of a fine, from residence
and cure of souls. The petition stated that this claim
was set up while the rectorial revenues of the parish
amounted to more than £5,000 per annum, and while
they were received by the Dean and Fellows of the Col-
legiate Church of Manchester- This petition was not
Presented in any spirit of hostility to the Church ; but
their lordships could not fail to see that such a state of
Lhings must be injurious to its best :interests. The peti-
"" Prayed that, Lefore the erection of a see of Man-
r..hester, provision should be made .to secure the applica-
!lon of the whole of the income an&revenues of the rec-
n°'Y to the effectual pastoral and ecclesiastical superin-
wt_k_denee of the parish of Manchester.
Zile Lord CHANCELLOR said that it *as quite clear,
'Col the charter of incorporation, that they were subject
th_eertain fines, which, when paid, discharged them from
tr °bligation of personal residence. There was no dis-
tinction between their title and thetitle of all appropria-
Tres of the ecclesiastical corporations in this country.
withYoeould not apply a remedy to this particular case,
eariZt altering the entire law as it had existed from the
The Period.\
from ti; Larquis of LANSDOWNE, in-answer to a question
tend_, e Marquis of Salisbury, stated that it was not in-
,„_ Ll* to take any step with respect to the law of settle-
'l,rnt, until the committee appointed by the house of
rmorons had made their report, and it had been consi-
gered by the government.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TerESJIAY.
Sir JOHN HOISHOUSE, in answer to an honourable
member, stated that a despatch had been transmitted to
India, reinstating the importers of salt in the same posi-
tion in which they stood in 1836, but of the advantages of
which they had been deprived by the regulation adopted
in 1841.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, in an-
tWer to Lord Castlereagh, that the government had caused
an inquiry to be made with reference to Capt. Wynne's
reeort on the subject of public works in Ireland.
Mr. RICARDO brought forward his promised motion for
select committee on the Navigation Laws, which, after
a debate, wasresolved in the affirmative by a majority of
sto 6.
. The 61.
Sugar;o the Destitute Poor, (Ireland,) the Brew-
ing from and Distilling from Sugar Bills, were
received.
Mr. WATSON obtained leave ta bring in a bill for the
..urther repeal of enactments imposing pains and penalties
upon her Majesty's Roman Catholic subjects on account
qf their religion.
t, Sir R. livoLis said, it was true- that the former bill of
tie hon. and learned gentleman had been suffered to pass
rough two of its stages; but it was equally true that,
tgiben a third occasion, the house decided against it by a
41rge majority. The hon. and learned member, therefore,
Could take nothing of encouragement from the precedents
he had mentioned. The bill which the hon. member in-
troduced, if it were like that of last session, proposed to
repeal the Oath of Supremacy, to legalize monastic or-
ders, and to admit the prelates of the Church of Rome
to assume the titles of sees belonging to the Established
Church. (" No, no," from Mr. Watson.) He was happy
to find the present bill was an improvement in that re-
el/pct. The hon. and learned member then permitted him
to•describe it as a bill which repealed the Oath of Supre-
macy, and as legalizing the introduction of the monastic
Orders. The bill bearing this character, he appealed to
all those honourable gentlemen who felt it necessary to
.11froduce new provisions into the Emancipation Act of
1829, for the security of the church and institutions of
this country, not to suffer the securities which they then
I:etpaired to be removed bit by bit one after another. He
!elt he should not be discharging his duty if he suffered a
matter
the character of the present to bebronght in as a
of course, without strongly protesting against its
PrinciPle.
Mr. Pve suv obtained leave to bring in,a bill for the
141 Pro ment of agricultural tenant right.

1-TSE OF COMMON& —WEDNESDAY.
of *fli—p cumber
of petitions were presented in favour
.11 .•;;;actories Bill.
L'ILLnEw moved the second reading, when several
e„rs called out, " Divide, divide !"
M. nurua regretted that the governmentha4not made
th 9117.j'l their views on this question. He had hoped that
e,Yviine Minister would have announced his opinion.
IV(' Year that noble lord voted one way, while several of
tff,_ colleagues voted another. He (Mr. Hume) was
ornglY against interfering with the labour of the..wca-
.g' classes. It was absurd to attempt arbitrarily to make
111 Y particular regulations as to the hours of labour. As
ell might they compel every person to sleep in a bed of
‘_Partictilar length, and order the bed or the man to he
Wretched or compressed, if the limits assigned were not
4•lbserved. According to the opinion of Mr. Senior, and
other-
foreieminent men, it was impossible to compete with
gners under the system proposed. All meddling
-with capital and industry would inevitably be injurious to
`the country. It appeared to him madness, after abolish-
411g so many restrictions, again to shackle the commerce
14, the country. Could anything be more unjust than: to
to work that he should not do
".7,1, a man who was willing
ta-lf .Parliament had no right to interfere with. any man's
th"°ur drß
such interference they would drive English
r4titlandYen'terprise to other countries.
G. GREY intimated that the question before the
Love was an open one as regarded the members of the
pngtu'nent. In his opinion the question was not one of
It had been argued last
'lLtl_
itn, t ;
hat 't but one of*degree.
he matter should be left to the employers
,;mtt elieployed, 1314 very little progress had been since
11„'Nilvards a settlement, and he was therefore in favour
e'll;tive interference to restrict the hours of labour.
I', qed little value to the predictions of ruin ; queh
ar:).,118 had been uttered to prevent former legisla-
rc Yet the manufactures had continued to flourish.
f•islialiglltilht that parliament, having taken upon itself the
tof 'n what should be the hours of labour
11411:41ales g .
eh, and :young children, was bound to proceed
'4(lh ile Wei in favour of extending the period of
Yoq oad, • words in the sense of the act, be-
,. t\,, using.the
,ye Years- At present, children from eight to
y
,L is in,.,1'14 of age .could only be actually employed
.six
iOted 4.`ne day, another portion of their time being
,‘,„°Re of 3 education. The transition from six hours to
r,;"' ka-„hadults was much too sudden, and he hoped to
(;eolbe;',leration. He did not agree with the honourable
tZherar (Mr. Fielden's) inference from the Registrar-
I return as to the fearful mortalit in
th hs
no eninPared with other towns. Anexamination
,]ran7P4tr.-e illurn.4 would show that Liverpool, Ipswich, and
°the
ches= large towns, had suffered quite as much as
It was the want of cleanliness, of good
ab,' 42ild of pure air, and other similar ...causes, and
deaure of the employment, which had caused -so
4—,?,_l"si-(;;;48- lie did not doubt that the course of the
4W0,7 gNt iLN'rould show a continued difference of opinion
hoh'lld 1,00 members of the government. He 'himself
Of the first clause of the bill, restricting the
eikrilluif72lo to eleven instead of twelve; and he would
rn; the hoursta
should be limiteinst the clause vrod to vidingten that atthe
ear.
"• ir 111(itgsupported 1411 and called upon the
t
tiitMd 'el' for Durham (Mr. Bright) to do so, on the
hobs it t4')at last year he had said their operatives were
ki:e to I..ealrietion to ten hours, though he asked the
;!dand t';°_,,t for a mutual agreement between the mas-
t% ve elnployed, No such agreement having been
,°1.41-sile, consistency required that that hon. nuunber
'.l?e delTort the measure.
dente was shortly afterwards adjourned.
tr4oord 110U.SE OF LORDS.—TurnsnAy.
ttlbtt! LBIN win At presented a petition from the !iwaffham
1241440'15t the present law of settlement, and praying for the
8Ab.11,".0°,f a general national rate.
ht ,4::,!flASt gave uotice that, on Monday, he would
ettif;eet ,f PT, awn from the magistrates of Liverpool on the
*4l the criminal law as administered b,y, them, and
.4, With • 411-,re(i lord reference to juvenile offenders. Ihe noble and
titli4tice added, that he was very inixious to obtain a full at-
.Nt of their to on the occasion. [On Friday his
A'cijiitt!g ke wout .]ld postporke the presentation of the petition
) taex