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MEETING AT THE AMPHITHEATRE.
A T a PUBLIC MEETING of the FRIENDS of the
_t-A. ESTABLISHED CHURCH, held on 'Wednesday, the
13th July, 1836, in the Amphitheatre, to provide for the Erection
and Support of SCHOOLS, in connection with the Estabitsh-
ment.
Rev. JONATHAN BROOKS, M.A. Rector, in the Chair,
On the motion of ADAM HODGSON, EST, seconded by CHAS.
HORSE' A LL, Esq.
ft was resolved,—That this Meeting deeply regrets the adoption
of the Rules recently introduced for the Government of the
Corporation Schools, which exclude the Scriptures from general
practical use iu School hours—Carried unanimously.
On the motion of the Rev. ArousTus CAMPBELL, seconded
by the Rev. H. M'Neme,
Resolved,—That it is expedient to build and maintain Schools
to be placed under the direction of a standing committee of
management, to be appointed for that purpose from the Clerical
and Lay Subscribers to the fund which may be raised, in which
the Scriptures shall be freely taught under the directio and
superintendence of the Clergy of the Established C rch—
Carried unanimously.
On the motion of Mr. SANDS, seconded by Mr SAMUEL
Holmes,
Resolved, —That a committee be formed for th furtherance
of this important purpose, and to solicit subscript ns and adopt
such measures as may be deemed expedient to effect it in the
best and speediest way, and that the Committee consist of the
following Gentlemen, with power to add to their number—and
that JA MES ASPINALL, Esq., who has kindly consented to accept
the Office, be appointed Treasurer—Carried unanimously.
Moved by the Rev. Dr. RALPH, seconded by the Rev. -JAMES
DIXON,
Resolved,--That the thanks of this Meeting be given to the
Clergy of this town for having so promptly responded to the
call of duty on this occasion, and to the Chairman for his able
conduct in the Chair.
COMMITTEE.—The Rev. the RECTORS.
JAMES ASPINALL, Treasurer.
Sir Thomas Brancker David Hodgson
Josias Booker I'. B. Horsfall
Thomas Bold James ilevworth
Miles Barton R. B. Hollinshead
Edward Cropper Edmund Molyneux
James Cockshott C. S. Parker
Moses Edwards James Pownall
J. Fletcher M. Reynolds
George Grant Alexander Smith
Charles Groves Wm. Smith
Robertson Gladstone Samuel Sandbach
James Laughton John Tinne
Charles Horsfall William Jones
Richard Houghton, John Wright
Adam Hodgson
With power to add to their number.
Donations and Subscriptions will be received by the Treasurer,
JAMES ASPINALL, Esq.. Duke-street, by the Members of the
Committee, and by the Clergy of the Town
The following donations have already been received :
John Bolton, Storrs £2oo 0 0
Sir John Tobin lOO 0 0
Sir Thomas Brancker
Rev. Augustus Campbell
Adam Hodgson lOO 0 0
James Aspinall
Joseph Need Walker
William Potter lOO 0 0
Anthony Molyneux
Edmund Molyneux .
Samuel Sandbach lOO 0 0
Charles S. Parker lOO 0 0
Josias Booker IOU 0 0
William Jones
Charles Horsfall
A Well-wisher, by Rev. H. M'Neile lOO 0 0
David Hodgson lOO 0 0
Thomas Murray, Hope-street
James Hevworth, Everton
R. B. B. flollinshead

John Murray lOO 0 0
John Fletcher, of St. Michael's 52 10 0
Miles Barton
Charles Grovei 5O 0 0
Anonymous, per J. A. 5O 0 0
Morris Reynolds
James Gnfillan
John Wright 5O 0 0
Robert Bickersteth
Edwin Maw r 5O 0 0
- Rigby, Sandon-terrace
Rev. R. Cardwell
Thomas Robinson, Linacre Marsh
John Alston
William Smith, Fulwood Lodge
H. R. Sandbach
W. P. Bushby
Thomas Haigh
William P. Bushby
Thomas Rawson
William Marriott , ' 5O 0 0
John Eden 3O 0 0
Samuel Staniforth 3O 0 0
James Pownall
Rev. John B. Monk 25 0 0
Thomas Parten 25 0 0
Dr. Brandreth
Richard Dawson
Thomas Wilson 2l 0 0
Richard Houghton
James Davies 2l 0 0
N. D. Bold 2l 0 0
A. A. Dobbs
Thomas Toulmin
William Cartn•right 2O 0 0

W. Heap Hutchinson
Robert Rigby 2O 0 0
.
J. C. Duncan 2O 0 0
Robert Ledson and Son
J. T. Glazebrook
James Phillips
James Logan 2O 0 0
Edward Speed
George Wright, Belle Vue, Walton
Samuel and Janies Hohne lO 10 0
James Jackson
T. o.. Cooper . lO 0 0
Patrick Parker
Francis Foster
George Green, Jun
Thomas Bold, Duke-street lO 0 0
T. W. Wainwright lO 0 0
The Misses Hollinsheads lO 0 0
Mrs. Brook, Park-road
Joshua Edwards
Thomas Harris
Rev. Thomas Bold
Rev. C. T. Gladwin
P. Witherl,c
C. J. Waddington, Goree
Rev. W. Hesketh lO 0 0
Willem Sandbach lO 0 0
John Buck Lloyd lO 0 0
George Brown
Harold Littledale
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. William Foster lO 0 0
George Langtry • lO 0 0
J B:Brancker
Elijah Harrison
H. W. Carter lO 0 0
John Miller, jun.
John Worrell lO 0 0
J. Caton Thompson 5 0 0
W. B. Falcon 5 0 (1
A. T. Patterson 5 0 0
James Parker, Norton-street 5 0 0
Rev. J. C. Piince •
• Dr. Scott 5 () 0
William Huson 5 0 0
D. C. Buchanan
W. R. Preston
William Dreyer
George Kendal.... 5 0 0
James Poole
James Robertson
A. W. Powles
Arthur Thompson 5 0 0
R. D. Wilmot 5 0 0
Francis Maxwell
Richard Benson
Miss Backhouse 5 0 0
Miss E. Backhouse 5 0 0
Rev. T. S. Bowstead
Samuel Johnson and Son
Thomas M`Gill
J. T. Hobson 5 0 0
Rev. W. Preston
C. 'l'. Duntem
Thomas Brassey ................
Rev. W. Rawson
William Grapel
Anonymous, per Rev. F. Barker
J. Dumbeil
J. Owen, London-road ............. 50 0
Q. in a Corner
H. J. Sanderson
King Ellison
John Ellison
A Friend, per R. Hughes
,
Joseph Nickels 2 0 0
Mrs. Sanderson , . 2 0 0
A Lady, per Rev. W. Rawson
A Littleßoy. per Ditto
Mrs. Ellison
Thomas Moyle
Miss C.. Batley
Joseph Holliday
S. IT , per J A. 1 0 0
Miss Sanderson 1 0 0
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Miss Handfield I 0 0
Henry Moss, Shaw's-brow
ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTIONS.
R. B. B. Hollinshead . £2 2 0
Dr. Brandreth
•• ••
Thomas Carrie
N. D. Bold 1 1 0
J. B. Brancker .
Besides several annual Subscriptions and other Donations
which the hurry of business prevents our inserting at present.

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GREAT MEETING AT THE AMPHITHEATRE
OF THE FRIENDS OF THE ESTABLISHED
CHURCH.

On Wednesday last the friends of scriptural education
from the unniutilated Bible were convened together by
publicadvertisement, signed;by most of the ministers of the
established church in the town. The object of the meet-
ing was to obtain subscriptions for the erection of schools
where the Bible, and the Bible alone, might be used as
the basis of scriptural education; a proceeding caused by
the late decision of the Town Council to exclude the
Bible from the corporation schools, in order to meet the
prejudices of the Roman catholics, and to substitute in
its stead the selections and notes of the Irish Board of
Commissioners on Scriptural Education, which were en-
tirely to supersede the Bible during school hours.
The excitement caused in the town when this deter-
mination became known was excessive ; and in conse-
quence a preliminary meeting, of the clergy of the esta-
blished church was held, when it was determined to call a
meeting of the inhabitants to obtain subscriptions fur the
erection of other schools, and thus frustrate the extraor-
dinary decision of the council, and teach, as had hereto-
fore been the case, the scriptures to the scholars from the
Bible alone.

SO great was the excitement that, by Tuesday even-
ing, 4,300 tickets were issued—as many as were intend-
ed should be—and not a ticket of admission could be
anywhere obtained. We heard that in several instances
as much as 10s. per ticket was offered by parties anxious
to attend the meeting, but who had not been sufficiently
on the alert in their applications. By half-past nine
o'clock on Wednesday morning the doors were besieged
by crowds of ladies anxious to obtain good places, al-
though it was announced that the doors would not be
opened until eleven, the meeting being to commence at
twelve o'clock. At half past eleven every part of the
theatre appeared densely crowded ; even to the very back
of the upper gallery ladies might be seen anxious to ob-
tain a view and hear the proceedings. The whole house
presented one dense mass of human faces, the majority
of whom were of the softer sex. There could not be
less than 5,000 persons assembled at the lowest estimate.
The whole of the back part of the stage, was removed,
and in its place was erected a temporary kind of amphi-
theatre of seats, one above another up to the ceiling,
which was in like manner densely crowded to the very
top, almost exclusively by ladies. At the foot of this a
number of forms were ranged, at the front of the stage,

where sat the clergy of the town and neighbourhood, to
the number of about 70, and in the centre a table was
stationed, at which sat the Rev. Rector BRooKs, the
chairman. The orchestra was fitted up with every ac-
commodation for the gentlemen of the press, and we
give our tribute of thanks to the committee of manage-
ment for their very excellent arrangements, which tended
considerably to lighten our labours.
We observed on the platform, in addition to the chair-
man, the Rev. Augustus Campbell, rector, Rev. Thomas
Moss, Rev. Thomas Bold, Rev. J. C. Prince, Rev. T.
Tattershall, Rev. Robert Davies, Rev. Richard Davies,
Rev. William Maynard, Rev. J. H. Stewart, Rev. F.
Barker, Rev. C. Morrall, Rev. C.T.• Gladwin, Rev. J.
H. Stafford, Rev. Edward Spencer, Rev. J. Lyons, Rev.
H. M'Neile, Rev. Charles W. Lawrence, Rev. John B.
Monk, Rev. James North, Rev. 'F. G. Leigh, Rev. M.
Formby, Rev. M. Hawtrey, Rev. J. Hassell, Rev. J. B.
Winstanley, Rev. J. Picton, Rev. W. Tyrer, Rev. T. S.
Bowstead, Rev. John Cheethatn, Rev. George Stokes,
Rev. R. Blacow, the Rev. R. L. Townshend, Rev. R.
Appleton, Rev. R. Leicester, Rev. W. Heskete, Rev. W.
Rawson, Rev. A. Knox, Rev. Thomas Gardner, Rev. D.
Vawdres-, Rev. E. T. Alder, Warrington, Rev. James
Dixon, Wesleyan minister, Rev. Dr. Ralph, church of
Scotland, Samuel Sandbach, Esq., Charles Horsfall, Esq.,
James Aspinall, Esq., C. S. Parker, Esq., John Wright,
Esq., Sir Thomas Brancker, Charles Lawrence, Esq., T.
B. Horsfall, Esq., Josias Booker, Esq., Adam Hodgson,
Esq., Richard Dawsen, Esq., Charles Groves, Esq.,
Thomas Sands, Esq., Wm. Jones, Esq., &c. &c.
At twelve o'clock precisely the Rev. Rector BROOKS
took the chair, and was received with loud applause. He
requested the Rev. J. B. MONK to open the proceedings
of the meeting by reading some of the collects of the
Church of England service. After that gentleman had
concluded, the congregation having devoutly joined in
the same,
The CHAIRMAN addressed the meeting as follows:—" In the
highly honourable and gratifying situation in which I am placed
as chairman of this meeting—for I do consider it a very high
honour, and a very high privilege to have been placed in that
situation in an assemblage consisting of so respectable and nu-
merous a body of my fellow-townsmen and parishioners—and
for a purpose so highly important as that of the education upon
religious principles of a great mass of the large population of
this town, it will become my duty—and I shall endeavour to do
it in as short and concise a manner as I can—to lay before the
meeting the reasons that have induced your clergy to call you
together on the present occasion. (Applause.) In so doing it
will become necessary, absolutely necessary, that I should revert
to the proceedings of the town council of this borough. In so
doing, I hope that I may state to the meeting the ground on
which•l shall endeavour to do it. Iby no means wish. nor is it
the wish of my brethren the clergy that have joined my
.col-
league and myself in calling you together, to cast any reflections
on that body. We do and are willing to allow to them the right
of managing their own schools on such principles as they may
deem consistent with their own responsibilities. And we by no
means intend to call into question either the sincerity or tle
purity of their motives—(hear,)—but we do claimlto ourselves,
and we claim for the large body who are here assembled, the
right of approving, or, on the contrary, the tight of rejecting
the principles which they may maintain. (Great applause.) It
will most likely be known to all those who bear me, at least to
a great majority of my hearers, that a few years ago the coin-
mon council, the acting body of the late corporation, thought it
right to establish two schools, one in the north and the other in
the south part of the town, for the purpose of educating the chil-
dren of the great mass of the people. When they did so they
' also thought proper to call in the assistance of the clergy of the
Established Church towards the conducting of these schools.
(Hear.) The clergy most willingly obeyed the call and had
great pleasure in giving every assistance in their power. This
then, assisted with a portion of themselves on a committee, the
rectors, the clergy of their own church of St. George, the clergy
of St. Martin's at the north, and St. Thomas's at the south be-
ing the two places of worship at which the children were heard
on the Sunday. The religious instruction at these schools
was left entirely to the clergy to conduct it in the way in which
it has been conducted. The number of children attending
these two schools has been 1800. Of the manner in which these
schools have been conducted, :it would, perhaps, not be becom-
ing in me to speak; I can only say this, that during the whole
of the time the constant applications for admittance have been
beyond the power of receiving, and the great body of the peo-
ple, from the appearance of the children, have expressed them-
selves satisfied with the religious instruction. (Cheers.) But
when the municipal oill for the alteration of the system of town
councils passed the legislature a different mode of electing that
body, took place. Upon the election of the new body, one of
the first things which was done was a communication from the
Mayor to the Clergy, desiring that they would continue their
services in the schools till something was deterininately fixed
with regard to their management. !he clergy again most
wil-
tingly acceded to the request of the Mayor. An education
committee was afterwards appointed from the body of the town-
council, and it has been their pleasure to recommend, and the
pleasure of the town-cpuncil to adopt, a different system of
edu-
cation in these schools to what had formerly been pursued and
acted upon, and that system is what is called the Irish system of
education. It is so called becase it was a system which was in-
troduced into Ireland a short time ago by the then existing minis-
try of this country, for the purpose of endeavouring to spread the
knowledge of the gospel amongst a very dark and ignorant popula-
tion. I must now, in the first instance, protest against the use of
names of highly respectable gentlemen whom we would all look
up to with the greatest degree of respect and attention, for the
purpose of insinuating, if not of declaring, that the gentlemen
who approved of the principle for Ireland did approve of it for
England. (Cheers.) One name has been particularly men-
tioned, and I consider him to have been mentioned because his
name must carry great weight with it whenever it is mentioned,
the name of the noble lord who represents a portion of this
county in parliament, (cheers) and it has led numbers to be-
lieve that he was friendly to the introduction of what is called
the Irish Svitein of Education in this country. I protest
against such a conclusion being drawn. I remember well the
arguments which that noble lord used when he advocated the
measure for Ireland, and they were especially confined to the
peculiar situation of Ireland as a great Roman Catholic coun-
try, having a preponderating majority of Roman Catholic in-
habitants. lam confident that he never intended—l may ven-
ture to say I know it never was his intention to apply that sys-
tem to a great protestant country. (Great applause). There
is no similarity—there is no analogy between the two cases,
and I shall endeavour to show you in very short terms where
we of the clergy thought the difference lay, and which differ-
ence was the cause of our calling you together this day. The
systemdtriffiltier smeubt which
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purpose of education, and the bible itself to be to thepma sealedwilieh
book. This was the principle upon which they acted. Now,
unshackled use
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and on a different principle to what they do in the Irish
system. We hold the selections in one hand, but we keep fast
hold of the Bible in the other. (Immense applause, which was
thrice repeated.) We use our selections as aids, as helps, as
steps to a better knowledge of the Bible; they use them as sub-
stitute for the Bible. (Long continued applause). The kuow-
ledge which we teach our children when they come to our
schools is tantamount to this: we teach them that there is a
book which contains every thing that is necessary for their
guidance here and for eternal happiness hereafter. (Hear);
We-tell them that a terrible woe is denounced against any
person who shall lake away from the sacred hook or who shall
add to it. This is the language which we use, but we tell them
at the same time,that it contains many things which are hard
to be understood, and we tell them that it contains two dispen-
sations—that in the one they will find an historical account of
the chosen people who were selected to bring about the pur-
poses of God, and who were made his instruments. That there
were also many men among the patriarchs and the Jews who
were made instruments of the Almighty; that it also contains
a series of prophecies, all of which were to be accomplished in
a future dispensation, and we then tell them in that other dis-

pensation of a Divine person who was appointed to carry them
into effect, who came down on earth—that in' that book this
divine person has parables for the illust ration of his subject, has
miracles by which he confirmed his mission and the doctrines
which he laid down as necessary to be believed by hiS disciples,
and the precepts on winch they weie to guide their conduct;
and we tell them we have selected those different things from
the Bible for the purpose of brieging, them up step by step till
they were able to come to a knowledge of the whole. We tell
them as we go along ; we keep the Bible in the right hand and
the selections in the- left. We never forget what is the most •
important point which we have to insist on; and here lies the •
great difference, for we do it with the Bible as our constant
companion and as the book which they themselves must con-
sult in the application; whereas the new system of Irish educa-
tion puts the Bible out of the question, though the selections
are taken from the Bible. But I care not whether these selec- '
tions are from the authorised versiotror not, as far as my present
argument goes, I object to them being Made substitutes forthe
Bible. Now, I say if such was the language used to our children,
what must be the language we should use under the new system
if we adopted it ? Why, we must tell them that there was a
book that contained everything necessary for their actual sal-
yation, and we must repeat the denunciation against the mutt-
lation
of that book; but we must tell them " that unfortunately'
amongst christians there are so many different constructions of
that book that we cannot put it into your hands; we must give
you something on which you can all agree. Absolutely ne-
cessary as it is tot guidance and salvation, we cannot put it into
your hands." I would ask whether that is the way to bring
into the infant mind fixed principles—( loud cries of '' No, no")
—is that the way which is to make them steady in their duties
both to God and to their neighbour? (" No, no.") Is it not
rather the way to leave them in the midst of uncertainty and of 1
doubt—to be carried away by every wind of doctrine ? (Cheers.) '
It was, then, on these grounds—on the grounds of not consider-
ing it. consistent with our sacred functions—to our duties which
we owed to our God, and the duties which we owed to you, as
our parishioners, and to whose care the eternal salvation of
your souls are committed—it was on these grounds that we deter-
mined to appeal to you to ask you whether we were not right in
rejecting such a system as this. (Great cheering.) I know it
has been attempted to bring names, as I said before, as autho-
rities for the adoption of this system, not where it was entitled •
to be used, in Ireland, but in England also. With your per-
mission, I will read you an extract from an authority which is
equal to that which has been produced from the opposite side of
the question—without the authority of the parties themselves—
in one of the charges of one of the our estimable prelates; and I.
am sure, in doing so, Ido more justice to the subject than by at-
tempting to put his principles into words dray own. It is an ex-
tract from the charge of thepresent Archbishop ofeanterbury, a
prelate who stands conspicuous at the head of our church for
the manly firmness with which he supports it, combined with
the truest christian uieekuess and hug • ity of character—
(cheers)—and with a truly christian spirt f charity to all who
differ from him. When he was Bishop of ndon, he addressed
a charge to his clergy, the principal subject of which was a
strung recommendation to them to support the national schools.
He was speaking of the difficulty which there was of finding
any system which might be introduced into the schools, so that
the children of all denominations of christians might be led to
approve of it. In speaking of it he mentions an expedient
which had been proposed to remove this difficulty, and he states
that-expedient to be this, "that as there was so much difficulty
as to amount to au impossibility in agreeing on the mode which
should be convenient and satisfactory to all, it had been pro-
posed that we should abandon the substance and accept acipher,
that morals should be taught in our schools, but that religion
shonld be left to the care of the parents or the pastor. Now, it
is my duty to likup my voice against so iniquitous a compro-
mise. If is anything beyond a contrivance of state, or
a creature of philosophical speculation, or if it is the revelation
of the Author of Truth, a boon disclosed by his mercy and his
wisdom for the direction of man through the twilight of this
lower world, to conduct him in this life to the attainment of ho.
liness and to the perfection of happiness in the next, what
apology shall be found for a minister of the church if he would
yield his concurrence to any scheme of education which leaves
the uurselings of his flock in ignorance of the creed which he '
has solemnly proposed to teach, and shows himself indifferent
to its superior excellence." (Cheers.) I agree with the learned
prelate that it would be most unwise upon religious subjects to
enter into any compromise; nay more, I say, as a christian
minister, I dare not do it. Applause.) Having thus stated to
you, as shortly as I have been able, the grounds on which we
have called you together this day, I should think it was going
beyond my duty as chairman if I were to detain you any
longer with any remarks of my own. I shall call on those
gentlemen who have kindly promised to give you the ne-
cessary information, and offer resolutions upon this subject
to proceed to their work. I shall only say one thing more, that
instead of compromising I hope we shall all be found of one
opinion, and of one mind, determined to keep the unity of faith
in the bond of peace, and remain with a steady determination
to uphold and maintain unimpaired the doctrines of the Bible.
(Immense applause and clapping of hands which con tinued some
minutes.) Most sincerely shall we hail the assistance of those
sincerely religious persons amongst us who may not exactly be
members of the church of England, but who may yet approve
of the apostolical faith on which her creeds and her doctrines
are founded. We shall bail with pleasure their assistance in con-
tributing to this great work, and I have no doubt that they, to-
gether with us, will do all in their power to uphold that church,
which hitherto always has been what I humbly and devoutly
pray to the Almighty it may always continue to be, and which
it is the bounden duty of every one of her sons to use their
greatest exertions in maintaining her, the great bulwark of
Protestantism throughout the Christian world. The reverend
gentleman on sitting down was greeted with immense applause,
cheering, and clapping of hands.
Adam HonosoN, Esq., said—Having been requested to move
the first resolution, I have acceeded to that request, but not
without much expense of personal feeling, and only because I
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party feeling, and in a tone and temper fitting to the important

object we have in view. Nothing is further from my wish or
intention than to speak disrespectfully of those gentlemen who
have adopted those resolutions regarding the schools. Many of
those gentlemen, I am certain, are sincere and cordial friends
of scriptural education. I concede to those gentlemen, as I
would to all, on this and every, occasion, a right of private
judgment, and I claim to exercise it myself. But if it be our
opinion that the nature and tendency of these measures is dan-
gerous in a high degree—if that be our opinion, then it is our
imperative duty as inhabitants of this town, to secure for the
population of this town, in their schools,'the unshackled and un-
restrained use of the unmutilated, protestant version of the
sacred scriptures; then, I say, it is impossible that we can, for
one mouteut, concur in these resolutions. (Cheers.) If we
should be of opinion that the plan proposed to be adopted in
these schools is in principle ur.sound, in practice dangerous and
valueless—if it be our opinion that to substitute these extracts
for the sacred scriptures themselves is a compromise on a vital
point—if we should consider that the establishment of such a
system is likely only to be a prelude to an attempt to introduce
that system throughout the nation at large, then I appeal to you
if we are not called upon to rise up and protest against the in-
troduction of such a system, to prevent it spreading and to pre-
vent the seeds of latent mischief being strewed Over the ground.
(Cheers.) The state of things under which we are now assem-
bled imposes on us the sacred duty of providing for our popula-
tion a sound scriptural education. And if it should be our
opinion that our general system of education is beset with in-
numerable difficulties, if it appear to us that the attempt to
conciliate all parties necessarily involves concessions which
ought never to be made by persons of opposite sentiments to
each other—concessions which no person ought ever to make
or require—if it is our opinion that the business of education
will then proceed most effectively when upheld by the various
denominations according to their own views of truth and duty,
and the alacrity of individual effort, 1 trust we shall proceed
with good feeling towards others to pursue that course.
(Cheers.) Notwithstanding the very extensive efforts which
have been made in this town by different sects for the spread of
education, there still remains a large mass of population without
education at all, in a state of ignorance and darkness equally
discreditable to us as christians or an enlightened people. I
trust we shall do away with this reproach. What may be the
best plan to accomplish this, whether by the introduction of one
or two large schools under a more general superintendence, or
in the introduction of schools where they are most wanted as
occasions may arise, and in connection with those churches to
which from their locality they may appear naturally to belong,
are questions which deserve grave and serious consideration.
But which ever of these plans may be adopted, I do trust they
will meet with general support, and I trust we shall find, by the
result of this meeting, that the appeal, sir, you have so kindly,
so clearly, and so fully made to us, has not been made to us in
vain. (Loud cheering.) I beg to move the first resolutiou :
•• That this meeting deeply regrets the adoption of the rules
recently introduced for the government of the corporation
schools, which exclude the scriptures from general practical use
in school hours." (Cheers.)
CHARLES HORSFALL, Esq., said,—ln rising to second the
resolution, I will not detain you long. Our excellent chairman
has detailed the state of the case so clearly, and has pointed
out the existence of the evil, and the remedy, with such per-
spicuity, that I think it would be a waste of your time were I
to attempt to explain it further to you. I conceive that our ob-
ject will now be to point out a remedy. We must endeavour,
by all means' in -thir power, to supply what appears to-be defi-
cient. We have present here to-day, and I rejoice to see it, I
think I may say one of the largest and one of the most respec-
table meetings which has ever met together in Liverpool. I
have no recollection of a similar one during forty years I have
resided in the town, and I think an impulse has been given
which,if we profit by it, and avail ourselves of it, may go to
the extent of supplying education to two children where we have
lost one—(loud cheering)— but, as has been very properly
stated, it is our duty in giving that education to see that, it is
sound, and that it is a Scriptural education, and that we esta-
blish schools from which the Bible is not excluded, and when I
say excluded, of course, I mean in the sense in which it is ex-
chided in the present corporation schools. It is our duty to see
that the Bible is in those schools, and, not only that,—to see
that they are schools where prayer is not absent. (Cheers. I
trust
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quite sure that the laity will support them. We must
endeavour to give the children, as we are enjoined in the Scrip-
ture, sound and religious education. We must " cast the bread
on the waters," as we are directed to do, but at the sante time,
we must be well assured that what we give them is bread.
(Cheers). It would only be a waste of your time, knowing the
gentlemen who are to tollow me, were I to detain you any
longer. I beg to second the resolution. (Applause.)

The CHAIRMAN put the resolution to the meeting, which
unanimously adopted it, amidst loud applause.

The Rev. Rector CANIPBELL then came forward and said—l
undertake, although, of course, it is with considerable reluc-
tance, to propose the next resolution for the adoption of this
meeting
:_.. That it is expedient to build and maintain schools,
to be placed under the direction of a standing committee of ma-
nagement, tolbe appointed for that purpose from the clerical
and lay subscribers to the fund, in which the Scriptures shall
be freely taught, under the direction and superintendence of the
clergy of the Established Church.''— (Immense Cheering.)
That, Sir, is the resolution which I have to propose; and I
think it will be hardly necessary for me to enter into any la-
borious apology for adopting the course which I am doing; for,
although I am perfectly conscious of my total inability both
from want of habit and from my want of talent, still I am
equally conscious from the position I hold in thu town, and (ruin

the intimate connection I have had with all the transactions
which have led to this. I must say, unhappy conclusion, that a
greater responsibility would rest on me were I to show any
thing like hike-warmness in advocating this cause than will rest
on me in undertaking an office, which, at the same time, I am
perfectly conscious ofiny inability to fill (applause). But while
I feel it wilt not be necessary for me to urge this subject any
further, I am most anxious to say some words in addition to
those which have already been said, to account for the motives
which have brought us here, and to throw off the imputation
which I know will be cast upon us in this matter ( hear, hear).
I solemnly declare, standing in the presence of e ou all, and in the
presence Of that :'eltnighty God whom we all worship, for myself,
and speaking-for myself 1 sin sure lam speaking for the whole
body of the clergy, that we are not here for the base or unworthy
purposes of political or religious agitation. (Cheers.) We are not
here to stimulate to excitement, or to accelerate that movement
which unhappey for ourselves scents likely to tumble us all into
the troubled ocean of religious and civil discord. Far otherwise is
our intention and our duty; we are no political agitators; we
do not want any movement in politics; we do not want any
American revivals in religion. (Cheers.) We wish, no doubt,
to go un to perfection, but we wish to go on in the old paths
pointed out to us once by the wisdom of the first reformers, not
" meddling with them that are given to change." (Cheers.)
That such is our duty as an established ministry " to seek peace
and to ensure it," and, in imitation of our blessed master who
is our pattern as well as our Lord, our example as well as our
master, " not to strive, nor cry, nor raise our voice in the
street." For what purposes are we here then? 'Why have we
stood forwards from the privacy in which we have always kept
ourselves and sounded the note of defiance and alarm ? We
are here, 1 do believe, for the purpose for whkh we profess to be
here, the purpose of promoting scripture education on the prin-
ciples of our protestant trinitariau church. (Cheers.). That
church in whose service we are engaged and whose interest we
have a vow in heaven to defend. And, in this point t 4 view,
would ask whether we have not a cause--e cause which I will •
ex plain to you, and of which I shall lay certain details before
you, with respect to the promoting of that which is the object of
this resolution---fur raising a fund for schools in which the
scriptures shall be freely taught. The population of the multi-
cilia' borough amounts probably to 220,005) souls, and, last an-
niversary, we returned 7,61! children as educated in the princi-
ples of the church. 320 were educated at the Workhouse and
1,619 at the Corporation Schools. So that we who might be
called, perhaps, the richest part of the population only educated
5,672 children at our own expense. Now those who dissent
from the Church of England educate 6,034 weekly and 4,600
Sunday scholars, leaving 1,300 uneducated. Again, 1 ask, is
there not a cause fur our appearing here on this simple ground
without any other? Have we not, the ministers and the
church, some slight reason for self reproach that we have not
appeared before you sooner ? And is it to be wondered at, I
may say, that we who have been so long taunted as "dumb dogs"
should now come forward and " bark" somewhat loudly ?
(Applause.) Ido not know that it will be necessary, with this
resolution in my hand, to assign any other reasons for our ap-
pearance here ; I do not know that I need assign any other
reason, for this is quite enough. I wish, of course, to -abstain
from anything like stimulating topicss 1. do not wish to rouse
your passions, to excite your fears by laying before you what
some rhay consider imagined dangers; but this I can say, we
are here in defence of our religious principles, we may perhaps
be here in defence of a protestant principle. (Cheers.) •We
may be brought here by the very same principle which took
Luther to the city of Worms, and which would have taken him
there if there had been as many devils in the streets as there
were tiles on the houses. When I say that a reproach is due to
us for the deficiency of school-rooms, I should wish to say, also, in
self-defence, we have opened five new schools, and perhaps I shall
not be accused of egotism, when 1 say, I have been myself in-
strumental in procuring accommodation for about 8(X) children
in the last three years. (Cheers.) I may also be permitted to
say, that the education we give is a sufficient one. We educate
on the week days ; we do not deem education the reading of a
few scriptures on the Sunday—that is well when nothing else
can be got, but it can hardly be dignified with the name of
education. We educate the children on the Sunday, and edu-
cate them in the principles of the established church " to fear
God and honour the King," to do justly, and love mercy, and
walk humbly with their God ; and moreover, we teach to them
the Bible as the basis of the education which we give. (Great
cheering.) We interweave religion with education; we do not
treat it merely as an adjunct, but as an essential part; we inter-
weave it together as an essential part of the fabric, not merely
as a fringe to the vestment which may be worn or not at the
pleasure of the wearer. Such has beeit our course : and this, I
think, is quite sufficient justification for our coming here; but
how little still have we done ! ,For what after all is the princi-
pal use of an established church ? for what do we value it, and
for what ought it to be valued ? Do we value it merely as a
state machine? Do we consider the church merely as a bul-
wet k of the monarchy—as a plop to the throne, the mitre as a
glittering appendage to the crown ? .Statesmen and politicians
may consider it so, and God forbid that any statesman or poli-
tician
should undervalue it for its essential uses. It is a bul-
wark of the monarchy, and if it is blighted I firmly believe the
monarchy wilt be overthrown. (Great cheering.) It is the
upholder of the constitution, and if it is lost, down the consti-
tution will fall into ruins. But then I say, we us christians do
not value it on that ground; we value it in the first place, as
my friend and colleague has said, we value it as the bulwark of
the protestant reformation; we value it as the ark in which the
faith once delivered to the saints is delivered down to us; we
value it moreover as the spiritual treasury in which is kept that
greatest of all spiritual treasures, the authorised version of the
Bible in our own mother tongue. (Tremendous applause.)
For this we value it, and God forbid that any protestant in this
land should forget any obligation he owes to the established
church for that inestimable treasure. (Cheers.) The autho-
rised protestant version of the Bible we have, was translated by
churchmen; and to churchmen, 1 say, a debt of gratitude is
and ever will be due on that account alone. (Great cheering.)
Moreover I say, we value the church as a candle which was
lighted at the blazing fires of Latimer and of Ridley; and God
forbid, I say, that that candle should ever be quenched.
(Immense cheering,) But after all I think I have left
behind the. best, the holiest purpose' of the established church.
We value it as the means of preaching the protestant gospel to
the poor—to preach the whole gospel to the labouring poor.
That i maintain is the most essential use of an established
church; but how is that purpose to be answered at the present
day without the intervention of christian schools ? 1 consider
it impossible. We may build churches and places of worship
' in every street, but Ido not believe that people will go into
these churches unless they are prepared for it by christian
schools. We must bind their minds to the considerations of
religion in early life, that when they are old they may not de-
', part from them. I maintain, then, that christian schools are
the battle-ground on which the victory is to be won ; I have,
' then, good cause in coining forward to beseech you to assist us.
But I know it will be asked in a very peremptory tone, why we
are here just now ? Why we have taken this particular time to
come forward? and in approaching this part of the subject I
cannot help doing it with very considerable delicacy, because I
know our conduct will expose us to the imputation of placing
ourselves in opposition to the constituted authorities of the town,
a position in which I, as a churchman, would not willingly
place myself for the world. lam so absolutely convinced of the
necessity of a perfect concurrence of the church with the state,
that it is necessary that that union should never be seemingly
dissevered. I think that the clergy should always be found by
the side of the civil magistrate to aid him in promoting the pro-
gress of social order. I would never wish to appear to he in op-
position to the civil magistrate; I think obedience to him is one
of the first and greatest of christian duties. But that obedience
must have its limits; the obedience of man must nut be opposed
to the commandments and obedience of God. (Great and con-
tinued cheering.) Now, Ido not wish to exaggerate., Ido not
mean to say that the constituted authorities of this town have
laid on us anything in the shape of a command to do what our
consciences disapprove of; they have requested us to do what
we cannot do without betraying what we consider the interest
of our church, and, therefore, the interests of religion in general.
(Cheers.) That is our reason, and I can assure you that it is
with the greatest possible pain that I have come to that conclu-
sion. Ido not come here, God knows, in anger, but in deep
sorrow. (Hear.) For nine years and a half I have been per-
mitted freely to educate the protestant children in the corpora-
tion, schools, in my own protestant parish, without let or hin-
drance. For nine years and a half the parents of between
1,4(X) and 1,800 children freely and unreservedly have emit-
teethed their children to my pastoral care, and that of my bre-
theren in the ministry; there was not a word of difference
or reproach. The parents have come to us repeatedly and
thanked us, and thanked God at the same time, for the
benefit their children have received in these schools. (Hear,
hear, and cheers.) I wish, from my soul, to be permitted to go on
in the old system. I may be permitted to say lam no bigot,
but I do not consider that I belong to an infallible church, I do
not say that every one who does not belong to my church must
inevitably be damned. I cannot say of my dissenting brethren
as a Roman Catholic Arch-bishop has said of Protestants,
"that their preaching is hellish and devilish—that their preach-
ing is fattening them for hell," I cannot say these things; I
declare to God I never did wish nor do I wish to force my me-
thod of teaching on any man, woman, or child, against their
will. Of course I think my own system the right one, otherwise
I should not teach it, but 1 don't say it is infallibly so, and
therefore leave others to adopt any system they please. For
this reason I was determined to teach, if I was permitted, my
own children in my own way. For this purpose I had much
communication with those itidividuals who have taken part in
this business to beg and implore theta that they would not lay
down any such written laws as would exclude me front these
schools. I told them how it would he if they would lay down
any such laws it would be absolutely necessary for us to retire.
I beseeched them to leave it to the sub-committee, under whose
discretion we might have acted according to our consciences.
I hoped this might have been done; I persevered in this hope;
and when that hope began to fail, by the direction of my bre•
thren, we sent au offer to the town-council to take the schools
off their hands, and take all the expense of them if they would
permit us to mapage them in our own way. (Great and.con-
ediatied -cheering.) When I made this offer to them, by the
direction of my brethren, I declared to them-that our intention -
was not to promote any exclusive system of education, but sim-
ply the religious and moral education of the poor. That offer
was rejected—very civilly rejected; I have no quarrel at all
with the manner of its rejection; it was rejected on good prin-
ciple and in civil terms. And here I must be permitted to say
one word with respect to one gentleman who is an object of
great political hostility, Mr. William Rathbone, (A storm of
hisses followed the announcement of Mr. Rathbone's name)—l
entreat nothing of that kind ;—I am bound as a christian and a
man of honour to say that I have experienced at his hands every
species of personal courtesy and respect; and I do declare, I
must declare that I have not detected in him any disposition to
throw us out of the schools. I verily believe that he would be
very glad to have our assistance; I do declare 1 have not found
in him anything like enmity to the established church in this
matter. (Hear, hear, and applause.) But I must say, that
the same witch-craft which prevails in higher quarters; and
seems to paralyse the exertions of the executive government,
and to prevent anything like wholesome and temperate reform,
has, in some manner, prevailed here. The Roman Catholic
clergymen were consulted as to whether they would permit the
use of prayers in their schools. They said their children could
not join in prayer with any other sect, and thereforeeprayer has
been excluded from these schools. (Loud and general cries of
"Shame !"t For the same reason the Bible has been ex-
cluded from school hours. We are permitted to teach the
Bible when the schools are closed. (Laughter and hisses.)
That is the only permission I believe that is given us in the
written law. The schools are to close at three o'clock in the
winter, and four o'clock in the summer; and from three to four
in the winter, and from four to five in summer, the clergy of
different denominations are suffered to go in and teach their
own children if they choose. (Loud hissing.) This was akti
offer which the ministers of the established church found they
could not possibly accept. We do not question the motives of
those who made it, and therefore we have unanimously come to
the determination to withdraw. I say to withdraw with the
deepest possible reluctance ; I would have done any thing to
have remained in those schools, and I must say that I have
passed in them many, very many, happy hours, and I hope to
pass many hours more. At present, however, it is not to be the
case. The Irish system is to be enforced; I will not say much
about that system, because I don't know how it works in Ireland
now. At first I was captivated with its beauty; I did think it
applicable to Ireland, but if it was calculated for Ireland, why
should it be so for England ? We are told that a King of
Prussia obliges his children to go to school at beat of drum ;
that may be an excellent system of teaching, according to mill-