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London, England, 1818-04-16 00:00:00

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, . r. sition could be broighist•
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its bearings did not allow him to meet the manly, ho- dace
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' seqsairie and concilia6ng language of the Noble Lord dal, luebedience to the i
. ‘ hadirtway in which he should otherwise have wished to
.of the House, to reduce
do. Beaks stint he had mentioned, thee was another bed intended to Forel"
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udidereefon which should be laid entirely out chile But they thought that kin
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• . question in such a cue. namely, mere political ate sneeld neither _ gretifr his
'itch:dant. The House duet not in degree'bri conntrY, ifindshed to ewe
be2ailsenced on such a gustiest- by clamour oat of islisheesnt without the cur
doorsi Certainly it was a very
•difficult master eo 'lf the Plums voted may 6
say what precise sum was exactly proper on each an. LWardi be reamed still lows
;occasion. Although he could not support the prop- to nellifT the _
_cositoortof so
'scion of the Noble Lord. still less could be adopt the nees•e-Lbsr4--,o4°lmlf 10
pinion of the Honourable Member for Sosaleiriirk, one but which iesi
braineos
who wished to put off the discussion to a future day. (hear)--and what, though i
• Nothing was more inconsistent with the respect which wood br fthe air aelletnene, di
ought always to be observed towards the ltoyal Fa- IleSie Of Hotteslussfeere•
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f'. mily, than that discussions of this kind should be these6ase 'trusted die
protracted. He therefore hoped that the House vete ill &KW. _ .
_or i liglivisi
, would now finally decide the question. It happened be totell44;llessosesere-
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that about four years ago the House had decided (on Kr. DEHOIJSE exp
documents furnished to them at that time) what should teinetkorm:b7frilantythe am
be the provision cm air occasion of this kind... How •
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been 'Wise or not it was not for him to sari
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I mast be taken as the wandard by which the frogs eater =um gm do
should decide on the t preposition. Therefore in establisbnent Wee on in
he perfectly concn in the first put of the Noble yield'* Mu equal to these
_; Lord's statement, in which he assumed GAOL as the to ewf fieset, oe to the ion
basis for provisions of this nature. But beklotild not former ocelueou,iiterhich a
easily make any exception in thetas, of the Mike of Inds, the hoots-of the H
f - t Clarence to entitle him to arty sistdhional ellowan ce bale intiresteds jadePeadea
' 1 be and that which was•necessary for his Royal-bro. 'whatever.
thers. The case of the Dukedf Yo4was clone At. Kr. METHUEN laid,
ferent from that of the lidke of,:clarente ; for when made to the incomes of the
the Duke of York married, therdfras only one step to be taken from the Wine
between him and the Crown. Ilt perfectly agreed •` He saw no reason
in all that had been said as to the DOI ofbantlendo. be assigned to the Duke of
But as to the Duke of Cumberland, isethouglit are the rest of the Royal Duke
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1 , Hon. Member for Surrey (Mr. H. Simmer), had serve it by the pre-eminent
made a very invidious distinction. As there was al. Military Serrices--(kor, /
. ready an ar;e.ndment before the Committee, he was Sir WILLIAM GUISE
at a loss how to procceed. rence had been sufficiently
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t Lord JOHN RUSSELL was desirous that every he had rendered his counts
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vaamnitlywslicohuiwdas necessary
d totoytethehder outYetftthethatßsooymael andferal
attention should be paid to the means which the na- place in the Windsor Fats
tion had of making good those traats.--(Hear !) mittee had an aPrstaaicl
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The CHAIRMAN
suggested, that if the amend- would, find that it was con
meat already moved vas negatived gun . any -other the strictest economy. T
amendment might be proposed. -- '' . some redaction might is
Officers of State of his Mai
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Mr. MARTIN spoke shortly against thenesolution. °°°L ; but, even she's
Lord LASCELLES did not think that there was 93,
any necessity for delay ; . neither did he consider it
just of fair in the vote of this night to go into a mi. and t d
60001. a year.
he Equerries be redly.
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Mr. TIERNEY said be
rate investigation of the circumstances of all the high
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l• individuals concerned. The question *as, that cer-
tain members of the Royal Family were on the eve judge whether sane rodue.
of marrying, and whether the House would give at• was his 1112$
i them its assistance to carry the projected alliances amounted to pooxxv. a-ye
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I I into effect? When he had addressed the House on ght be paid to the Ft
a former occasion, it was with a conviction that he Lencestec Yielded 100°1.
' was acting not oply for the credit of the House it- red made a fund of 70,001
1 t self, but for the good of the parties concerned. He tian of the Physician's Pa,
t had never meant to say that some provision should for sorne one. His Maj
ii. i it not he made, but that in the present circumstances I,°°,°"' that of the Cl
of the country, it was impossible to grant the allow- 10,°°°1. allowed, he be'
antes ori*inally proposed. He should have no kind esPeases, 68,0001. To•thea
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of objection to male to the reduced provisions for for eac„._b, or 26,13"-
whole,„, far ti,
the three parties whose marriages were underetriod as Illaw I°.rl. 1
1 to be on fact. Windsor. Yet could it be
i ' ; Mr. FORBES did not think that any distinction lac two daughters, end I
should he made between the Duke of Clarence and Preseaj land, and
t; , the rest of the Royal Family, and therefore should mt us o""' l'au, so
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vote for reducing the grant proposed to 6000 L haat.)
i Lord CO3IFTON defended the propriety of mak- Lord CASTLEREAGI
ing a difference in favour of the Duke of Clarence. fair to include his Majest
) i Ttiough there were two members of the Royal Fa- Windsor Establishment.
mily between him and the throne, yet they were Majesty was entitled to 1(
older, and had no children. tore, which, if deducted
_ Mr. SAMUEL THORNTON, after alluding to Honourable Gentleman's'
i I Mr. ! the general conduct of the Duke of Gloucester, Which establishment of only 164
lAMBTON thought t
had gained the esteem of the country, expressed his
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intention of voting for the reduced sum. duty to his constituenu and his
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reigning Family and the line el
I Lord GOWER stated, that during the three years' In the Presenthulth,_aenett foraste...*
I residence which her Royal Highness the Duchess of me"tchorn„ret ettoslve,porie=oinsie shiltge "A,
' ' Cumberland had made in this country, she had ac-
-1 quired its respect, and that the more she should be tisbmein, for Ythere was any
SI I known the more would-she be fohnd worthy of esteem. be done away with at once-
, being applied to any purpose
Here the call fora division being violent, strangers was, whether the Howe wool
were ordered to withdraw. During the exclusion guarto en tisk his Etirjal ILighns
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Mr. BROUGHAM, Mr. Tureen', and other eminent t had not that Royal Duke
been already granted to him?
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, I Members spoke.* The gallery having been re-opened
t , corsequenees of his miseonduc
though no division had taken place, we found tuents had a right' to expect,
i t Mr. CkNNING -contending, that with respect to duty ii it didn t resist the pros
his Royal Highness the Duke of Clarence, it would Wr. WTlr6 should vote
- I never have entered into his contemplation to engage grant of e,oool. for the Duke I
wards become heir apparent, t
in the proposed alliance, if it had not been pressed upon mat and him a farther
e , hie as an act of public duty.—{hear, and laughter.) case of the Duke of York wash
' When he had been desired to state on what condi- that the Windsor establishmet
t i dons he would contract the marriage, he had wished don of Parliament, though th,
foriistokit:gtteitt iztfoqconsidocennioa
' times to be limited to the provision of such means as beta
woad prevent him from incurring debts,, and be- once ore cleared. The Ha‘
. toning, in that odious manner, a. burthen to the fleet itneedmrat, that the C
country. With respect to his ancient -debts, he had 6,0001. Ayes -
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majority against Minis
interest and. the ultimate li uiVrass:datio of the capital. The result was received wi
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It was not, therefore, an em
flied for assistance—he would pot have wattled wautto lard that stiles nethu:d;l7dt:elid,badixedth°tl
had he not been about to marry, and he did not con- Itlttbieee rlketufesurausalmeselaAtbt bi
'tract this alliance for his private desire and gratifica- Wher we vaajlila di 4
tion--Vond kisighter)—but because it was pressed a The retort Memo, selsit
upon him to secure the succeseion to the Throne.— 4ase- Committac to
Tbe Besse ibis mom&
le there was any thini ridiculous in this, let the House advent *toad the Hamad
thank the state of its aws—let it thank that prohibi-
tion which precluded the Princes of the Royal Fa- anemia .s Loss Pants;
may from contracting marriages of liking, and insisted IA outelA o t Dosed units, of ti
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on their _nuking abroad for wives. But when, in old- C", "la =Mgt :fa lita
$ dimes to these laws and to aclvice they engaged in 11,,,,,aii,..-"t0.,,,a the
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marriages,not of liking—(hear, hear, and laughter)— tliyiimfbe-iii- dallaill
i for how could there be any liking •etweea persons the Keifssate,lrSidlipi
vvho had never seen each other ; but founded on pub. (Phe ..„Pvisvess.: net he
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grounds alone, was it fair for the House, to turn a"rit""--Z:baisassiv.iashas
round upon them? The interval. which had occurred scribed the wood as lisla
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between the bringing down of the Message and the Dace on
present discussion, had been employed in investiga-, entered he =thi:sfLor=
tions which enabled him to state, that with 10,0001. aLa'hip.fiabile4' direct"'
Now, sir, lon ebillasensio
additional a-year, it was the opinion, not of the scribe the wound, aludi,„
Duke of Clarence himself, but of the persons most the spine. aad was otersice
Mr. idarklasid now told the
conversant in the domestic concerns of the Royal
household, that hie Royal Highness could not take ,ird...- whiictillbic;T:dild°
• upon himself the 'state and dignity- of a married tall of grireinees be a11e,18./1
prime, without incurring the danger of contracting est the Magistrate advised t
fresh debts. This opinion was given by those who for s future period—the pri
`Officers produced, among ce
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