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defended anictnaintaitted. Upon all the grounds of relishe,.
polity and expediency,they were bound to :move these disgust&
cations. Hut it was said that such a course was dangerous to the
Protestant Constitution. If he could possibly believe that, he would
give up all the arguments in favour of the measure, and vote against
k. Hut bow was it possible that with the mass of the population
of. Great Britain Protestant, the Catholics should outnumber them
kt Parliament? Resides this, the Coquimbo of the country. as
Eningly as laws or words could express it, bad established Pro.
testandrei as the religion of the State. With regard to their Lord.
ships' House. they were all Protestants there. excepting six or seven
Catholic Peers. and his Majesty was not likely to create such a
number as to give them the majority. lie bad striven night and
day ti discover what the danger was. and be was convinced there
was hake. Hut then came the question—was no danger likely to
;aim from not passing the Bill? The Noble Lord then showed
that in his opinion there was the danger of not being able to recruit
the Army and Navy in time of war, and, on the contrary, the no.
crabby of employing troops in Ireland to keep the Catholic popula-
tion down He neat reviawed the policy with which Ireland bad
been treated since the brat conquest of that country. and cootended
that the hardships she bad suffered formed auother reampa why the
measure ought to be conceded. He could find nothing to fear in
granting, but every thing to fear front refusing it. The argument
respecting the Coronation Oath had been entirely given up by Lord
Liverpool, and therefore was no longer entitled to consideration.—
Ores all these grounds be should vote for the original motion.
The Duke of RICH MOND.—The Right Reverend Prelate
has spoken of the accession of talent which appeared on that side
the question. He recollected that last year be had the benefit not
obly of his Right Reverend Friend's eloquence, but. what was of
thud more importance, of his vete. However, it appeared that
the .• march of intellect" was making rapid strides indeed; for
in the short space, the shun period of one year, that talent' that
eloquence, and that vote were opposed to them. In that short
time he had changed his sentiments, and he (the Duke of Rich.
atonal could not attribute it to anything but any extraordinary
enlightenment .on reading the King's Speech. He confessed that
his sentiments were unchanged. He had always thought that
enncessiatn. granted would only lead to further demands, and until
he was saddled that there was no longer any danger to be appre.
beaded. be would not consent.

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The Bebop of SALISBURY opposed the measure.
'The Karl of W I NCIII I.SEA said the House was called on to
abandon principles which it had long sustained, and be would ask
upon what pounds, upon what securities? lie (tile Karl of Win-
chilies) must now advert to the pledge given by the Noble Duke
mat that 8.11 would have the effect of strengthening the Church
Pretablishment. The Bill was now before their Lordships, and he
%mild ask had that pledge been borne out ? They were told that
is hilt amulet quiet the complaints of the Catholics. it would also
satioy the Protestaitts. What proof was there that it gave sada-
bettno to the Pro t. st.nte ot England? Ile would take the answer
Mont the num. roue petitions against the measure pouting in from
the most distant parts of the kingdom. He thought this a sullicient
reason why this most base ezperintesital m should not be en-
tertained--a measure which he conceived would act as a cheek to
the growth of liberty and the best interested religion. It was tree
that 'wore the period of tend', dime had been a dawn of liberty
which bad elsbed eit flowed in pruportinn to the increase
or el• crease of Popery. But he believed it would be held that
hatever had been good or pure in the Government away oesintrp
hid emulated from Protestantism. He would ask their Lordship%
what ...could be the effect of granting concessions to those who emote
openly and secretly enemies to Protestantism? Was it possible
that it could tend to strengthen that establishment? It that wets
so. wbrwas it necessary to ask for soy securities at all? For his
own part he had as yet not beard of any thing of securities, and
would therefore conjure his Bight II nd Brethren to weigh
well the deep responsibility et their sacred character in their con-
sideration of this measure, and he trusted that their Lordships
world still prove to the country that they were neither to he inti-
midated nor msluted into giving their sanction to a measure which
iirvolved the best interests of the country. The Noble Karl eon-
chided by seconding the amendment.
TI. Fail of lIA IL WOOD nest addressed their Lcrdships,
and asked. what were the reasons assigned fur giving the Catholics
political power ? they were told it was on the ground of expediency ;
from what was that argument drawn? Certain proceedings bad
taken place is, Ireland. which had the effect of bringing that moonily
intuan alga:axed star. 'limey were under the influence ot the
Catholic .Issociation. when a Bill sass brought before the Hamm
for the purpo-e of rotas's down that Association; what were the
grounds oil which that Bill was introduced? It was because a
power rake din Itel mil which should not be suffered to exi-t in
that country. • Ail thing like the ascendancy of Catholicism was
incestoistent with the principles of civil and religious liberty—and
every part ..t the Bill oemed to declare that Catholicism was daro
senora to she State. He heartily wished that the measure might
turn out well, but there was nothing like a security that it would
do so. or he would vote fur the measure with cheerfulness.
The -ila•qtits 44 LANSDOWN tt.en tow and spoke
as follows ‘ly Lords, the Noble Lord has said that be cool I
bring himself to grant every thing to the Catholics except political
prover. I thought, then that political power was already (obtained
by rise Catholics; sod I also think that this measure will remove
that power which exists, and has manifested itself Isar the purposes
of mischief. It exists in the immediate cent let • with the Posies-
taut comnitinity, and in spite of a Protestant Aristocracy. The
Nob., Earl. howeve. before he sat down, bad answered his envu
argument; for he admitted that in Ireland the Catholic Associa-
tion had bled itself so firmly, that it went even tbe letsgthof throw-
ing out threats against the King's Government, which it would
never dare to have done but for the artificial system of government
in that country. The Noble Lord had attempted to point out the
inconsistency of the measure, inasmuch as it tended to extinguish
certain powers, while it coliftrred others of the same description. It
was said that this Association should be put down; but it was im-
ble to extinguish it, unless they connected the cksatroin which
k was formed with the Legislature, and gave them the means of
asserting their rights. and making known their grievances
through the entry legal channel. The means of doing so their
Imrdskips had beard, and in his opinion they were means condu-
cive to the safety of the Church and hate. The Right Reverend
Prelate at the head of the Church of Ireland. had stated as a
reason for opposing this question', that be had perceived in a news-
paper, in which his Marbly 's Speech was announced, an account
of certain proceedings which had happened ulterior to the time
when his hlajesty's recommendation was read from the Thome.
He alto truly said that the agitators had originated these proceed.
logs, and that the opinion of the Catholic Nobility was of a more
ineiderate description; but that they bad no 'knurlier among the
Associatime. Now, then, I ask, why is it that they have no in
floence? Why is it that they to whom every society looks to
temper popular ebullition.. and to extinguish feuds when they
exist, bow is it that their influence should be of no avail, and that
the con muoication which they have formed between the Govern-
ment and people should be cut off?—(Cherrs). I bete deny, my
Lords. that Ibis will give power to the Catholic. Its principal ef-
fect will b. beneficial; the Catholic persons of property win be
willing to become once, as heretofore. a link between Government
ard the preppie. That link which is now wanting will be supplied.
the ttight key. l's elate has told us that this measure will be the
means of future disorder, but, on the contrary, I look to it as the
means, as the salutary means, which will enable us to look forward
with hope to the future tranquillity of Ireland. The question coo-
'fines itself to two or three points— it is a question whether there be
any iufirmity—for infirmity I must call it as established in this
eoqntry—which makes it impossible foe us at present to give to the
whole country.the benefits of that Constitution which exists in all
the other mono irs. and whether there is any thing in the Conoitio
don ot the country which prevents carrying that dry policy iota
execusion? My Lords, I shall not go into ailments that have been
before gone over, to prove either by the statutes of the country. or
by the revolution of 1688, that that was the permanent exclusion
tithe Roman Catholics. I contend there is no evidence in any of
theitstittes to show that. The establishnsmit of the Union is pet-
amnion by the Scottish Acts. Then there is one to make the Courts
of Quarter Sessions permanent. Then comes the simple clause
with respect to the oaths to be taken by Chancellors during con-
tinuance in Mike. I have. therefore. better evidence that it was
the policy of the Scotish Parliament. as it was that of the Koglisis,
not to look forward to that which might be the most iunstious
to our Government —namely, the permanent exclusion .4 the
?lonian Catholics. The Presbyterian religion it, perhaps. the
most averse to the Roman Catholic of any in existence. In heat-
ing what the opinion of the Presbyterian then was. it may not be
sodas that your Lordships should bear what is their °pinkies now.
for. we have the Bill sent up from the other House. and it dues so
happen, that though a Noble Duke has presented a Petioles from
bcodand against. this question. and which was represented to have
the names of all the persons in Scotland opposing the Mil. it ap •
pear, that no lest than forty Representatives of Scotland have sup-
ported . the measure. I daiiik it somewhat extraordinary that
iu
the speeches of theist who in and out of the HMIs, have argued the
treasureoliey should be perpetually Writing colds:retied discussion
on this subject—that they should be saying you are to consider this
e:43 then that—and atter they have pointed out all the differences,
they tide round and tell you, that if all the great ova's of the
people of Rogland were drawn up in array by numerical figures,
she greatest number are the persons best able to decider upon the
qmation. No person can hold the opinions of the people more
sacred than I do. Rut I cannot consider this the reflected and re-
tonsideted opinion of the people. that this measure should not he
- carded forward. I have given nor iota in favour of this Bill, nut
because it gives political power to the Catholics. but because it se.
mimeo encroachniesta---it does not add danger to the Church. Let
us .to a moment. sonnies what that drover is which k coo

tended for by the *pretests of this Bill to be the result of the
meanie? It is sat and has been stated by the Right Bra
Prelates to.night, tralliPerson was to be elected who had ax
authority to sit in the House—that be bad a kieseuee. waits
neither the influence nee desiderata oter
the purity of that dentine which she . Ilitddisinnent is
capable to support, would tend to ceserienl; but fist le wield be
the means of bringing a systems at error into this *lightened age,
to captivate the undentandlose, -and overthrow the Protestant re.
ligion. I admit, my Lords; that this is a posiible atenetteace, but
it is highly improbable. If these possibilities are to be earned,
I only wonder that any i f your Lordships have been able to sleep
in your beds for the last bun :red years—(Much laughter).—
Let roe ask the House to consider, and above all let me ask the
Right Reverend Bench to consider, what are the dangen to which
the Church is ezposed in the present state of things. I say, if
there is any way more than another to gain demands and thou.
sands of enemies to the Church, it is by continuing to oppose the
proposed . The WSW of millions of Roman Catholics of
Ireland are daily to be told that be their education and their know-
ledge what it may, there is one bar they must get over before they
can attain political power, namely, the Church of Hagland. The
Right It aid Prelate who spoke last hoped, if this measure
passed, his Majesty's Government would adopt some measure
for the purpose of destroying the priesthood of Ireland. Now I
think the most ellicadoes step to be taken fur that purpose is the
paring of the measure now before your Lordships—(Hear, bear,
bear). Ido not know whether it has struck your Lordships as
worthy of remark; but it certainly has struck me, that in the
election which took place at the dissolution of Parliament in
1826, the Roman Catholic Priesthood did show a disposition to
interfere; and not only did they show this disposition, but they
actually did interfere with a very great and monopolising power ;
ISO it is alleged. Now it happened that, within a year of the same
time, in France there was a dissolution of Parliament, and the Re-
nun Catholics thought they had, or ought to have bad, a great
object in influencing the election. In that country they did not
1/4ucceed ; but in Ireland they succeeded to a considerable extent ;
d why? because in Ireland there was an reclusion which was
c elated to produce a false, a mischievous Government, if you
will, but certainly a powerful one. I say, in that view of the
vitiation Ireland requires the most serious consideration of you
Lordships. I most sincerely warn your Lordships not to
Imistake the nature of those reclusions and disabilities, which,
under the operation of particular times and oecessitks,
have been engrafted upon the Constitution--(Hear, bear).—
It has been ugly said. my Lords, that those agitations, aridrig out
of temporary religious feeds, rescuable the occasional couplets, of
the evkano which disturb the natural world. I trust the measure
will be successful, for 1 am happy to add, that in the construction
of this Bill I on podia* but a just regard to the State, and that
which WM Word happiness to ail millions of loyal subjects.
The Bishop of Ogress captained.
Tbr Bishop of LONDON said, that which bad occurred during
the discussion of this measure bad altered his epittion, that the
Emancipation which was proposed by this 11W was not the Ewan-
Icipation of which the Irkb people stood in need. With respect to
what bad fallss from the Noble Marquis,- he should merely say,
that it was rather unfair towards the Church of England, to say
that she wasebe opponent of mention; it vpioosgi be MOM fair to
say that the Constitution of England was op to those tonne-
slues. For his own part, he was satisfied that the Catholics would
not be satisfied with what was now proposed to be gives to diem;
on the contrary, he was sere they had ulterior objects, which
they never would abandon until they were convinced that
their efforts were useless. Ile was free to admit that he did out
apprehend any great danger from the admission of the Catholic
Aristocracy to power; but he would ask if there was no danger
'to be apprehended front the admission of Catholics into the other
House of Parliament ? He was sure that all sock Members of
Parham, so would be under the influence of them who elected them.
With respect to the conduct of the Clergy, be would beg their
Lordships to attribute any warmth, on their part, rather to their
zeal in support of what they believed to be right. than to any spirit'
of intolerance, of which be knew them to be incapable. Whatever
(relies of gratitude be might feel towards the Noble Duke at the
brad of his Majesty's Government, he could not give him his sup-
port on Ibis occasion ; but when this Bill pegged, as there was
&vainly a doubt but it would, he should feel it his besides duty to
inculcate upon his Clergy and their flocks the necessity and pro.
miety of acquiescing in them.
The Marquis of LA NS DOWN explained.
The Marquis of SALISBURY said, that when he moved the
Address at the opening of the Session, he was prepared to make
considerable sacrifices, and even to allow some encroachment ow
the Constitution of the country; but the DU now before Parlia-
ment contained no security,, and should not have his support. He
th.sight the MI was pregnant with danger to the Constitution, In-
asmuch as it left the Catholic Priesthood in ancontroalled possession
of that influence which they had over the people of Ireland; and,
there could he no doubt but that such influence would be used in
destroying the property of the Church whenever there was a favour-
able opportunity. The greatest Statesman of this amour (Mr.
Pitt) said it would be innate to admit the Catholics to power,witisour
lost obtaining an inflame over their Psiestbood. And the Noble
and Learned Lord on the Woolsack bad himself declared. that the
adniitsion of Catholics into the Constitution would be the &stria-
tion of the Protestant F.stablisinneot.

The Earl of WICK LOW said that the Noble Marquis had
certaibly, in moving the Address. reserved to himself the perfect
right of judging fur himself the measure which might be brought
forward by his %I•jesty's Ministers, but at the same time he must
say, that his resuming was not to hint concluder; be thought re-
strictions un the score of religion were inconsistent with the spirit
of the Constitution. and he abookl therefore vote for their repeal.
The Earl of ENNISKILLEN said, he bad uniformly opposed
such measures as the pr sent, and be saw no reason to change that
opinion. When the Noble Earl bad concluded, there was a loud
cry of " Adjournment" and " Go on."
The Earl of FA LkIOUTII rose to move an adjournment.
which. after some conversation between the Duke of Amos., the
Earl of Bums, and Lord TINTIIIMIX, was agreed to.
Adjourned et a QUART'S rase One fiCL*CL
HOUSE OF COMMONS.

A Gentleman front the Bank of England presented Talkies Ac-
runts respecting the Debt, kc.
Groan' GASCOY N It; moved the further consideration of the
Report of the St. Ed Irtiu's Church, Liverpool, Bill.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY opposed it, on the ground that it was
an uncalled for expenditure of public money, and that it was nut
required, as there were already seventeen Chinches for the ac-
commodatioo of the people of Liverpool.
General GASCOY N E said, that the Corporation bad shindy
expended .C9.',000 m the building of Churches, and could not ap-
propriate a (tinker suns without aid from the Commissiotien.
Mr. HUME said, that he did not desire to throw blame on soy
body, but be and his Hon. Friend (Mr. Harvey) only wished to
afford time for inquiry. He, therciere, proposed that .be further
consideration of this report be postponed fur a month.
Mr. HUSK ISSON defended the Bid and the Report, and said
that the Corporation had already expended A*90,000, and as to the
patronage, be believed that the Corporation would gladly resign it,
ie the Aliti 000 were returned. He contended that there way no
ground for thus resisting the Bill.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY replied, that notwithstanding what had
been stated. there was no answer had been given. *this Hill was a
most wastun departure from the principle of the New Churches
Bill; bat if it were of no consequence bow a million and a half,
wrung front the pockets of the people, were expended, then this
Bill ought to be allowed to pass.
The CHANCEL LOR of the EX C H EQUER was surprised
that a private BM was made the vehicle ut attack upon the Church
Commissioners ; if they were to be complained of, weirs the Act
was passing would have been the proper time for complaint.
The gallery was cleared fora division, but it was misdeed with-
out any division. The original motion was then agreed to.
Mr. HODGSON presented his Repute of the Bow Vestry Bill.
Agreed to. Ile then presented a Petition from the Beechen, Ike.
of Loudon and the sebutbs, complaining of the Smithield Market
Bill.— Referred to the Committee on the BilL
Lord LOWTHER presented the Report of the Clarence Rail,
way NlL—Agreed to.
The &inch Gas Light Bill was read a gonad time, on the me-
don of Mr. Alderman Wools.
%f r. H USK ISSON presented a Petition from an individual
against the Liverpool and Manchester Railway Bill.
Mr. WA RI) presented Petitions from Billingsgate, &c. against
the London lirii.ge Bill, praying to be beard against the same.
II hi 6 presented Petitions in favour of the Aberdeen
Police Bill.—Ordered to lie on the table.

Lord G. SOH F.RSET moved that the House, to-morrow, re-
solve into a Committee on the Lunatic Asylum Acts.—Ordered.
The Registration of Mains In Scotland Mil was read a brat
time, and ',Wend to be read a second tinte on Monday.
H. G. LA MR presented a Petition by upwards of 400 maids,
wives, and widows of Melbourne, Derbyshire, against the practice'
of burning widows. He could vouch ter their respectability and
virtue—( Much laughter).—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. STUART presested a Petitiuss from Roman Catholics of
Banff, in layout of the Ciaints.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. D. W. HARVRT moved for returns of prosecutions and
bills instituted by the Attorney General, at the instance of the Cha-
ritable Commissioners • account of the progriss made; the objects
of the proceedings. &c.
Mr. Secretary 1110iL acquiesced in the motion; observing, that
the labours of the C04$11111•0011els had been su useful, that it would
be much in he regretted if their labours ware interrupted.
Mr. IIU MR said he thought a different coachmen would be
come to U the luta wets investigated ; they had already cost the

country 110,000 L they essmined during four months in be year ;
and Oaring tberesnainirg eight meths they remained io Lsmien,
making up their Reports.
Mr. HARVEY spoke to the same effect. The advantages of
the Reports were triang, fee now their' ewe the evidence us One
skit codr—done of the statements of complainiog parties were ad
ducal. .The expense already bad been upwards of 1100,000:
Arad of lun 0001.
Mr. R. GORDON said, the Attorney General nu* to anima
the question.— Notion 'agreed in.
.` Mv. W. PEEL presented Returns of persons coefireed in die
films of the metropolis for prison fee..—tkdered to be printed.
Mr. RENO postponed the Ganda Bridges UM till to.toorrow
sennien._

Mr: STANLEY brought forward his guidon reseeding the
Leasing Powers of Bishops la Ireland. The greatest lisconvenkown
were the co:nuances of the present system—it required remedy
and he pco a general valuation, the renewal of leases at atr.
tato rates traced of lines. and that the renewals of leases should
be for forty-two years Instead of twenty-one pass Tbe system
of paying fines be was most anxious to get rid oe. By his proposed
amendments there would be additional securities to the Bishops.
and particularly to the tenants. lie concluded with moving for
leave to bring iss a Bill to Amend the Laws regrading Leasing
Amer,' of Bishops and Ecclesiastical Corporations.
Lord F. GOWER said be should not offer any opposition to
the motion; and added, that he should devote his best attention
to the measure.
Mr HUM K said. that the Houma sooner or later would be
obliged to look to the princely incomes of the Irish Chin ; the
Bishoprics of Ireland were now totally different from what the
founders of them intended at the beginning. He had no wish to
rob any individual. but he would take it on himself to say that it
was preposterous to allow many of these Bi.hops from 20.0001 to
30,0001. annually for doing little or nothing ; some steps ought to
be taken for the regulation of the Irish Clutch.
The CHANCELLOR et the EXCHEQUER defended the
Irish Clergy ; there was not the slightest cause fur charging that
body with negligence in the discharge of their important duties;
Whet. the gwstiaa came fairly, and in the due cows, of business
before the House. it should meet with all the attentiatt it required.
Sir C. W ETH ER ELL was of opinion, that the proposition
made by the Hon. Member foe Nltintrou.in spirit. meant nothing
eke than a condecation of Church property ; it it were only it.-
tended to regulate the laws between landlord aad tenant, be would
object.to the principle of the measure ; be cuiesisler.4 it wholly
unnecessary to legislate for the Church; the laws relative to
Church property were as well understood and as well managed as
any other.
Mr. PEEL saki, be should always be prepared to resist any
enalscation of Irish Church property; care should be taken to
make the Church in Ireland as secure as any landed property. Ile
should refrain from making any observation. bearer he was sure
that the Hon. Gentleman who brought forward the Bill disclaimed
all spoliation; he (Mr. Peel) should be glad were the Hon. Mem-
ber for Montrone to bring forward a proposition for regulating the
Irish Church, because it would afford Ministers an opportunity to
correct any error that may have gone abroad relating thereto.
After a few words from Lord &union. the Dill was brought up
and passed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Or.
-der of Day regarding the British and Spanish claim,. The Might
Hon. Gentleman said, that he would nut in the present thin state
of the House enter into any discussion In relation to these claims,
if the House was an inclined.
Several other Orders of the Day were then divined of.
Mr. GRANT brought up the *spurt of the Committee of

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Supply.
Mr. HUME protested against the system adopted of voting
age of money away without laving due explanation.
CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he should
afford the Hon. Member any explanation be might require.
Mr. MABEE LY complained that no explanation b.sil been
given regarding the operations of the Finance Comm tree.
Mr. HU XIE, in relation to a vote ot for the purpose of
erecting new churches in the West Indies, observed that those
who warned "Uinta information, ought to pay fur it themselves;
he opposed the grant also, because it was unnecessary.
Mr. 111ABEIALY complained of the (seat expense of the Peril.
tertiary at Milbank, for which the I louse was calk 4 to grant I MOW.
Mr. Secretary PEEL said that the sy-t. ns of discipline adopted
at this establishment was certainly espemsee, but it could out be
otherwise • the prisoners consisted chisel of a class that could not
be disposed of in any other way. Young men and women, for in
manse, who had only committed a first crime ; these were not fit
so4ects for transportation; besides. the annual expense of keeping
each prisoner at the Penitentiary, was no more than ENS ; the
charges attendant upon transportation were in a much higher ratio.
Sir THOMAS BARING thought the expenses of the Pene-
testiary enormous.
Mr. Secretary PEEL said the expense of teaching the prisoners
trades was heavy, task-masters and task-mistresses being guessed
for the purpose.
Mr. HUME said, that both task-masters and task-snistresses

were comfits.
The ether kilns of the BW were then paned, wkh the exception
of the Peaks to the Irkh Linen Board, the cuosideration of which
wu milkweed till Monday next.—The Report was recites&
The ether Order. of the My were thin Mimed of, and the
Item adjourned at uste•rast =yaw o'ciaed.

HU HYMNING I4TA it.

LON IPON.

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The Duke of Wuwarms, moved last night in the
House of; Peers the second reading of the &man Catho-
lic Relief Bill, and stated. in a clear. And distinct speech,
the motives which bad induced the Government to rc-
conimend the removal of all disabilities from Catholics,
and the principle and details of the Bill. An Amend-
ment was moved by the Archbishop of CANTSHBUIT,
that the Bell be read Mon that day six months " and
aft, r a 1, ng debate, conducted with the calmness and
ability which characterise the proceedings in the Upper
House of Parliament, the discussion was adjourned till
this day.

It is impassible for us. from the length of the debate.
to offer Any observations in our paper of to-day, upon
the speeches of those Noble Lords who delivered their
sentiments last night. But it teems to us to be impos-
sible that the powerful reasoning of the opponents of
the measure. and the admitted doubt, if not certainty.,
that it will fail in its object of tranquillising Ireland,
should not carry conviction to the minds of a majority
of their Lordships, and induce them to reject a Bill
which has already done more mischief to the best in•
iciest' of the comfy, than any messurewhicle has been
introduced iu the last twenty years.

We have received this forenoon the Nuremberg Cor.
re:rodent of the 46th ult. from which we make the
following estracL We very mach doubt the report that
Russia intend. to make another attempt to open direct
oegociations with the Porte:
FROM nut LOWER DANUBE. Masai 10.
Since General Diebold' has takes the assumed of the army.
a sew tratodse mina to have bees Oho le the movementa et the

troops in the two principalitiee. There are combed reviews, aid
almost daily Row proasOdurie in the several crepe are assoutortil.
The Mire's speak with the highest resplct of the talents of tbc
sew Cannuander. They burn with ardour to come to anion with
she Turks in a great battle. and look forward with prophetic in.
thusiarns to the most brilliant victories. The recruits and the
horses for the cavalry lately arrived have made the regiments own.
ewe. The troops ore very well clothed. the cavalry well mounted,
and .he artiliery iu puke' order. One spirit animates the whelk.
But though every thing loilicatee the speedy opening of the new
campaign, We hear from persons whore situations should enelde
them to have good information. that before the Resign=
bloom Hasins. a last attempt is to be made to inspire the
with pacific seutinients, and to induce him to m.ke those realisable
conessdoss• which all the European Cabinets allow that Emu it
entitled to demand N. Von klinalacky. who during his mai
years residence at Constantinople gained the (satiate of the
Turkish Mistakes, is spoken of es the permits to whom the intended
mission will be coofided by kis wagost Sovereign. In cuoSrmatiNt
of this statement, whisk it meet be owned is nut yet authenticated,
it is farther :armed that the Cabinet of St. Petersburgh does meg
approve of the rrincipk of indirect negociations. but judos that g
direct proceeding is the more satiable to the dignity of a grog
Power as it duce nut aim at conquests, and consequently its desk,
in put au end to the shedding of blood by a peace I.oaue.rahle
both puke. canton easily br sodomite n.
Commercial letters from Odessa, and other Russian ports in the
Black Sea. coniptiies of the depletion of all businew, and describe,
in the must gloomy colours, the disagreeable situation in which the
nierchator are placed. By the susprii•ion of the twig idea to Coos
stantinople and the Evan Sea, the market for the produce of the
South Russian Provinces has become very much restricted; angs
though large quantities of can are porch sad by the Governornad
for the supply at the troops, and for Varna, where numerews ma.
&aims are to be termed, the prices of clan are still not very high.
iu comparison with other places; and either articles lit prudare,
for want of a market. are id hardly any value. In general the
commerce of these countries suffers very much by the war, width,
so the other band, enriches other countries, especially the Hauges
✓ian and Polish Provinces of the Austrian Mon Archy.

We have likewise received this morning Dutch Papers
to the lbt inbt. from which the folios% ing ate extracts.
The St. Pdersbarsh Jogrmuh to the 19th larch. which
reathed us by the sa t.e .4stntittiiiit), contain no t►ew.i
THE HAGUE. bleach .7.t.
The 211 J division Ist the Ikcetinial Budget contains the expenses
of the five Ili.hopricks now /misting in the 21..uthern Province-6,mA
of the three new irks which are to be erected according to the
Concord 4. These expenses include the mimics of the Archbishop
and Bishops. tr 'welting expenses, the mimics of their Secretaries,
of the Vicars-General, the Canons, Directors, and Pnitenori of
the Semblance the stipends and half stipenJe, and the keeping tq
repair el the epi •copal palaces. The expenses (elf the Archbishop
ut ))!alines are 47,550 &rine. and for the seven Bishops of Loge,
Hamer, Tournay, Ghent, Bruges, Ant.teniant. and tins k Use,
from 211 to 30.00uSorins, each making a total of 253,595 Swim...
Hogue fiunitist.4prst I.
Ausseassam, Mallen Si.—ifachange on London, 12 02 5.10.0.
Two menthe,. II 9S.

ST THS 111BNCII MAIL THIS MORNING.
News received trout Coottandimple. by au motaurdinary too.
veyance, gam, that the Sultan was nap/tint preparations to depart
for the army, and most of the Nobles the Empire were to wear.
piny him to Adrianople. the Headisarters. A Podia of
then is to remain in the eepkal. at Governer. Must of the Reyes
are to be eaikd to Asia. as the Government are in teat of them.
The Porte hes received seesaws that. ate, the &pima • of she
Freocb sod Roglisb miusdrons from Candi., the Rowans have dee
clAred that LAW kt a state of blorkade.
A Russian division is repating to enter &refs.

Calcutta Papers have been received at the North and
South American Cu(ee•house to the 14th of December.

ruin rue JOllll MILL or tun 13TH or amenata.
We understand that the Governor. General has relinquished the
idea ut going to the Eastward, and that the Huouurable Mr.
Bayley proceeds ea Saturday in hi. Lordship's roost.
CANTON. _ _

In opium, we believe, only a few Unimportant sales have hem
made since the issuing of our hest number; but many inquiries
have been made, within the last ten days, in consequence of the
arrival of SeVetai junks, but no operations have occurred.
Owes Itegisters have been received up to the lath of October;
they contain the account of the massacre: of the Captain aud thir-
teen of the crew of the French ship Navigator, on heall of a
Chime junk, when off the Island of Hainan. The people of the
junk rose on the passengers, and murdered the whole of this,
with the miceptiusi of one mike, who leaped overboard, and get
to a Ishii% boat, and was landed at Macao.

CITY. Twer.ve o'CLocc.
Consols opened this asensing at 1171 far she Account. and they
are now at $7ll. with nothing doing. Our City pulkicians set
occupied in reading the debates.
CITY. HALF-PAST ONE O'CLOCIL.• •
The Consel market remains arm at 1171 1 for the Account, and
U for May. The Cammisehmen purchased at en.
In the Foreign market Danish Bonds have improved I per net.
Brazilian Stock also get up is the count of the morning, since
which they have receded to yesterday's price.
• It is genteelly thought that the majority in the Haute of Lords
will be from slaty to sevemy, and in the Committee thirty.
The Hem Robert Gerdes. brother to Laid Aberdeen. who is
ordered to Constantinople, takes with him an eztra Secretary, by
which it is supposed that his mission is of greater magnitude than
to settle the Greek question.
Letters from Tadao of the *sth March state, that the corvette
Kitereuse had arrived there from Bavaria. with dispatches to the
Goya assent. The rebate letters state, that a duel bed taken
place there between ColosefFabvier and the Greek General Po-
tties.. The latter was wounded in the breast—not dangerously.