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London, England, 1816-08-26 00:00:00

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, 144+towaiRiiit.--irads* Rekrir, the bil 6***4 *
lived eWth Mt. 'l uclidandlord of the Bald-faced Stag, oft Eolith(
Chace-side,hiho had absconded after being stimnioned as a wit.
tress, was brought up on Saturday, in the custody bi. triltint
Read, sem who aorthended him that :nothing, at Mr: New.:
man's Livery Stables, its Swallow.street, where he goes reel
Sail:tide, to receive a weekly pension df half:a-guinea, allowed
him by the Vat! Z.:umper. in wittier service he lived it, years ; he
was et/mink red to the tittnet: of Correction for St CUritt, fin the'
next raw-11;81.664in of Mr. Ttick.
MA 4 S10:14101ii r.—f3at •.tday Ilrelhno K. ripen Wet charged
with steahng 'wit dozen e f dressed calf skins, the property ut
Mr. farmer, vain, Xiill. • This was one of the Most impudent
thefts which has been recently committed. the prisnner hued
a horse and cart, and strove liito Leatienhaßmatker, where
skins of Various descrivions i.vere vposed foe sale. The parcel
in question first attracted his notice, and with perfect simplicity
be Of them, into the cart, and Was &Meg ell'. Mr. Vnipsys, the
salesman, t.bservine she act, immediately tothwed him, and •ed
what skins he had ;it,: ? .1 u this inquiry lie had an readyen an-
swer, that it was taken for granted lie had nta te a nirakel and
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t;11 delivery of the skins, !se ss as allowed to drive t if. lie was
not thus to be foiled, hotet: r, in his way,
for be ret•rne 1 in 1
short tins: aficrwardi,atid rent:wed hit attempt uu the same par-
cel, and was tnahirg 3oad h a retreat, whet. !.e was again retaig.
niseel, aid, nut bei;:;.; qitne ~.) ita2py in :is apology a, b.forey wae
?alien into cittstodi. tle was hilly renunitted .or trial.
GoILNIALI...44:I:VACB rITIIL3 —Saturd♦.y Mt. Grilinths, the
C anition Cow:el:man, attended, in porattance of a summons, at
the it.F.tanee. of the Colbretor of Tithes for the united parishes of
iit. is Magdalen ..nil St. Gregory, to strew cause*hy he d.d
not pay the Stifle Of 94 allem:g to be due by him for tithes, so the
Rev Mr. Webb, the rector of the parishes in question. The
summons having been read, Mr. Griffiths entered is to strorg
comments on the injurious and an ressive teadency of tithes eta
together, the effect or which, he said, terdest inure to the dete-
rioration of the chinch eatabliffintrni, 2,id :k: property of the
peat& tribes, than aily tLioii, ti-e in existence. The anhject, he
wa.s I any to like vo, reus tr:tler the no iaideral4n of Parlia-
ment, and he ti twill 11.1 time wmisi be lost in the shooing Sesa
sion to 41i away ilro.;ctt.er with so znevoiss a &yam.
1 Sir W. tramcar. 1.,: .aid, that however well-founded the ehjet•
eon of Mr. (irimth, single. be to •!:- .yot m of tiq4-4, that was
no answer to the detnsind whet. had been made :ton him under
the provi•ions of au Act of Parliament.
Mr. Grath,. --I *lever relused tit pay them; if the Collector
ht.:l Lone to ;:-.e beadle of .!4e p v is% who has directiotio to pay
my parish tares, tor woi;1;1 Isaac 13.it.:1plid.•
The Collector 5.14, ::! lit.tigh Mr. Griffiths had re.rsr refused
to pay, yet demands !Lid been fr.itsently made on his premises*
and the payment hid never taken p:azt.- lie begged to add, that
he was acting on the present invasion, not frutd the suggestions
of his own siond, but by the direction of the rector.
ear W. Do:serif.. c having now d elartel the the tithe must be
paid, or a warrant of titcreis issued, Mr. Griffiths threw down
Use 9s. The Collector stow deatati,..:ed es. what he had paid ler
the summons, and to which be at b.nitted be xa: entitled VI the
Act. Mr. Griffiths sa;d hf.woulc. nit ray it i the collector Blight
get that from his !never ii he choie.
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A man of decent appearance, run:•ell Rick. rd Carle, who wit
formerly a mielical inaa of considarahle practice, was remanded,
charged with stealing several ,Lases !tont the C4fret-rOUIII of the
Castle rune-intuit; in Kung street, Clieapside.
Bow STREF.T....- lit HICIIIIOND ZITEAM.BOOT.....An Infor-
mation has been exii.eiteel at this Office by the Waterman's Coate
pansy agaiost the proprietors of :he itichnioui steam-boat, on the
auntie cry of hu ancient ratme, winch cites I. that no person or
persons shall be eligible to work a boat, unless such person or
persons shall have regularly served the:r apprenteccship. Ou
Saturday the Siting Magistrate, Mr. licaS,a, received a lettull
Irom the Its inembrar.cer of the City of I.onden neon the subjec4
and he (Mr. Birnie) appointed l'uesday next tux the hearing of
the arguments fur and again:st the iii!..rtnwholi.
Saturday Jeme: Ptlliill was broaaht to :he Office, charged with
being noncereed wi!ii another matt in breaking open the Duke's
H; art put:lie-house. on Pat ,s nes-Cdreen, ors zeta; day night, the
17th instant. Edward. Hadnott, a constable of Fulham, preyed
his app.thendiste the proainer aid auother an for the offences
and lodging them hi the fulieun ti4.th Louse, out of which they
broke, and made their escaptt. On searching the prisoner he
wind three ski *toe or pi..llOck Leis. '1 be prisoner, who was
te-apptehended In it. Jaut. I's 1'...k, was connui:ted.
- Maui t. Roam/au-a Titan v.—a an aas tirday Joie Marra Peuidl,
a young man of genteel appearance, was charged wi b robbing
Mr. W. Hodgkins, of ivn n, Villiers-strrei, Strand, of Lill
la bank-notes, several article' ot wearing apparel, a silver watchs
them, and 'leak. The pittles had la the sa,ne house,
and slept togrher. I..it Monday night Hu 'tieing found MI
trunk unlocked: and his ineney gene. he prisoner had not re.
turned to lit, bating. since :elooiday useieuiez.—Renizaded.
J. Sher was chariest: with robbing his natter, Mr. Harvey, of
Clorelaud•street, who depasial, that having some suepiclun of
the prisoner, be ma.ked some Liver, which be put in the till,
and shortly Westwards =sad some of it; he theta called the
&twiner, under predence of burrowing 7s. who protliced the
ideutical motel lust.—Fulty comment d.
gintLN.OQVAILE.—On zaturday JAR Moses, a Jew, brie
charged by Issey Gutless, a Spaniard, wi.ii picking his pocket
of a pocket boob, containing a La tea. k.nuse, three di idle a
saver panel:, his alien certificate. and ether article . Promo'.
tor, by an iiiterpieter, stated, that. on I lima:lay evening, about
nine o'clock, as he Was passing by Neal! aniberland house, in the
Strand, he telt his coat ;wrier twitched, end foaud be bad lost
his ptichetaboak ; he te,tied round, and prisurer and another man
wer: to ...sin, both rate He omitted prisoner, and
erica*, atop thief." tie overeouit prisoner at the top of Craven.
*feet, when he was stopped Ihe prisoner was fatty commlrtei.
SIIADWOLL.OTI lee. --0:1 Saturday Peer .171,71samy, Xickus I
and J. Ste; were charred with vereently assainting base.
tel caulkers, wino were at work on a vessel m Shadwell Dock,
and ccmperling them to desist front their employment, with
which they 1.21.1 t!.ey Intl no right to proceed. I bey were also
charged witleassaulting the Officers wha took them Into cast..sdy
They were ordered to be comml tett until they shall find bad.
Catiar.:ay Jobs Tatompiva we. charged by
Mrs. Irwin, with stealing several aritclit in wearing apparel
bum stn mead a vessel lying in the Surrey Canal. It appeared,
trout the te Antony of the prosecun ix, that the vessel in question
was at present a subject ot dispute in a Court of Equity, and
that she was on board of it, keeping posiess.oti t.ll that divine
was adjusted. On Friday 4iterii.oli she had :.ern to visit a friend
on board another ves..el, f,aueg just by, when she observed the
pawner eu on boas kl bet *hip, :old %hien% iidit/N deck. She itn-
int-Malay went to see what he wanted, when she discovered hill'
in the canon, and nth r some in•errogatories, which he did not
answer to her isatistactloti, s%e having vent for an Officer, gave
hem int., custody. Ott searehing him, it wee discovered, that he
bad contrived to draw on three or haw pairs ot stockings, the
inoperty of the pro-ec..trix, which he had found in the cabin,
And his OWII ever them ; he had also coucealed on his person a
pair art sw,ea, and some other at ticles ot e.earing apparel, her
property. He was commit led tur.re.esemioaeioa.
OWN Hata, t,ouruwaie K —J. Lay.wan was on Saturday
brought up by kieint, the Cotes:Wale, Ly whom he was app-r.
Deeded at Peckham fair, charged on susidaua of robbing Lis
euipioyers, Messrs. Courage cut Donehison, coupon. It. ape
pear.d,. Irons the prosecutor's atatarnrin, that the pi abontr aas
tor stone time in tneir employineu., and thtt thvy placed co: a.
dirable cent:deuce in and occa-Aluomy employed flies en
collect nitiery for mem. 1 eking advantage of the ktiowled,e
whir:, he thus obtained of their altar,, lie uta.ie out bilis 64..
known to thew, and received ino..ey to the amount ot several
hundred pounds, with winch, . boa. twelve mouths ago, he ab-
sconded. trend has ever since hart) art starch of him, but with-
out success, till .1 huraday evening last, when the Olhcer, being
at I'cckham Fair, was induced to go tutu the !moth wheie the
celebrated ale. rasp was exhibiting himself to the gaze of tin
admiring crowd; and here, to his entire satlacac Los, krinal soon
recognised, in the person of the Master Of the Ceremonies, the
individua of whom he had been so long in beards. He imme-
diately, $4Oll e:resessie, took him into cha.ody ; acid lie was ear Sip
turday it:unified before Sir John lamer, and committed fur eia
Ruination on a future day.
hiaasuatska COURT-JCIOLM 1. Ward.--The Plaiudlr, a
real-merchant, brought an action against the Defendant, a baker
in Westminster, to recover the value of. three sacks ot coals, and
the costs of delivering mem. It appeared that the Plaintifi sent a
to the Defendant five chaklroa of coats some time hi May last.
The Deadest resolved to measure them, and finding the fine
sack he measured half a bushel deficient, be refused to have any
of the coals, and cold the waggoner to take them home. The
waggoner refused to take back the three sacks be had delivered,
anti drove away the waggon, leaving them at the detendanes
door, who of course tech them into his house, sad used Dams.
He related payment on the mosa 1 of tab. being abort of the
rept ar ineasoje.a..Verdict for the Defendant.

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PRIMITIVE SIMPLICIT'.

ANGLISH OPERA.

An old Maiden Aver, whose locks, white a+ snow,
Proclaim'd :,he was young some ball emery ago,
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With significant nods and remarks vary shrewd,
Thus accosted ber niece, a gay, volatile nude:
• " How degenerate the times-1 remember the nays
Wbenladies wore handkerchiefs, aprons„and stays,
When a good pair of pockets were thought nu disgrace,
And nobody dreaint of your muslin, and lace :
1 hen virtue receiv'd an indslible speck
If a female display'd but the top of her neck ;
Yut, now, yon all shew. what was meant to be hid—
Pray why can't you dress as your grandmothers did r
" Dear Aunt, so I do; why don't you perceive
We follow the fashion of grandmother Eve t
If your argument's good, we can never bablam'd,
Like her we go naked"—
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- • " And are not asbanid

O'Keefe's entertaining Opera,The Castle of Anda-
lusia, was repeated on Saturday night at this Theatre.
Mr. INCLEMIND in Don Cesar, was very effective. He
was in excellent voice, and executed his stings in good
style. His " ii/Off" was loudly and generally encored.
It was given with all its characteristic boldness,
blended with native sweetness. We were also parti;
cularly delighted with his 1, Battle Song," and in the
duet of " dlPs Well." Mr. HORN, as A/ hose, intro-
duced the plaintive airs, 4. Slow trole light," and
Te gloomy caves," front the Opera nt Kair. They
harmonized well with his peculiar powers, and dis.
played force and skill in the execution. Mr. Rus-
mt. made an excellent Spade. The shifts of " the
honest little Gentleman," and the seeming truth and
candour which accompany the utterance of his innu-
merable I quaint lies," kept the house in a tear of
laughter. The " Prado I resorted," is one of the mast
efficient songs in his part, but it was omitted. Miss
Ketur was equally happy in the dialogue and the
music. The little air, is Then prythee no more come
to woo," was loudly encored. It was executed with
great taste and sweetness. Mrs. Pewios made an arch
and lively Catalina. Her action is rather redundant,
but her spirit and energy render her highly diverting.
The house displayed a t ull and elegant audience. Kr.
WELLESLZY Pout and family, the Saxon and Por-
tuguese Ambassadors, and many other persons of
rank and fashion, were present.

A comic musical sketch, in one act, entitled the
,Fair Doereer, was produced on Srturday night at the
klayinai ket, and met with a very tavourablereception.
—The 7 raweller Benighted was also revived. It has
been extremely well got up, and was received through-
out with warm and universal applause.—Exit Gy
Illistale, which wins _ upon an audience the oftener
it is performed, closed the entertainments of the even-
ing. The house was crowded with elegant company.
Amongst the first novelties forthcoming at Covent
Garden, is a musical entertainment, written by the
late JOHN roam the songs of which are said to be
so beautiful as to have induced the veteran composer,
SIHCLEI, once more to embark on the " stormy dra-
;ludic ocean."

MISS MERRY, who has been obliged to retire from
her professional duties, owing to severe indisposition,
and is at present with her father in Bath, is in a state
• of convalescmce, And will S 001) be able tonsil"' her
station. at the English Opera.

Mr. BETTE and Mr. WARDS are the two stars at
Cheltenham and Gloucester. KEAN has been draw.
iog great houses at Exeter, the town where his great
talents first emerged from obscurity.
The principal Welsh Theatres have failed this
season to give employment for Bath actors—that at
Swansea is not opened for want of a tenant, and the
recently new Tenby Theatre is let as a dissenting
place of worship.
VAUXHALL-GARDENS.—This delightful place has
again maintained its wonted attraction during the
preceding week. Crowds of the most fashionable
and elegant company have resorted thither, and even
the heavy rain which fell on Monday and Friday
evenings scarcely produced any visible alteration in
the number of the visitors. It must be a satisfaction
to the frequenter of this attractive sport to know, that
its covered walks, spacious rooms, grand saloon, &e.
are amply large to accommodate more than ten thou.
sand persons; nay, should an unharmon•ious shower
ever disturb the performance of the Concert, yet the-
judicious style of gravelling the walks this season,
npw leaves them dry again in a few minutes after the
heaviest rain, and perfectly harmless to the most
timid invalid. Among the distinguished characters
on Friday evening, we observed the Duke of Graf tots.
Lady Cadogan, Lord Harrington, Lady Ann Ha-
stilton, Lord Walpole, Lord Petersham, Lord
Sondes, Lord Dysart, Lord Beauclerk, Etc. &c.
HYDE-PARR.—Owing to the fin!ness of the
weather, there was yesterday a numerous and bril-
tient display of fashionables in the rides. and the
different promenades were crowded with genteel
pedestrians.
MELANCHOLY Acctortm—Saturday sennight, in
the evening. as James Keenan, a boy of about 14
yearsof age, was"doing some plastering work for his
employer, an the brewery of Messrs. Conolly, Somers,
and Co. Dublin, in crossing a plank, which lay above
one of the immense porter vats, he missed his foot
and was instantly precipitated into the foaminggulph
below, where he was suffocated before any assistance
could be given. Alderman Fleming, Coroner for
the City, attended by Mr. Pasky, held an Inquisition
on the body ; the Jury returned a verdict ot—.isei-
denial Death.—lmmediately after, Messrs. Conolly,
&mem and Co. ordered the contents of the vat in
which this unfortunate accident happened, to he let
out into the sewer, which was instantly done, in the
presence of the Coroner and his Deputy, who waited
to see the last drop of it out, It occupied above an
hour and a half to empty it, though two large cocks
of three inches bore each, were opened for the pur-
pose; there was in the vat at the time of the accident
our hundred and thirty hogsheads of porter nearly fit
- for delivery. Alderman Fleming wrote a certificate
on the spot to the above effect, which he left with
Messrs. Conolly and Co. lest the public might have
ny unpleasant impression on the occasion.
- the night of the 21st instant the shop of Mr.
Lod, a watchmaker, at Stroud, was robbed of a
-c containing upwards of 60 watches.

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• Rm. IN NEWIMM

Yesterday *Reimlst a serious riot Woke Obt
snaring the convicts in Newgate, originating, we un-
derstand, as follows s—A person who was elitism the
prison. had his pocket picked of his watch, upon which
an order was issued by the Keeper for searching the
convicts, as well as those of their friends who were
diet With them, and that no other visitors should be
admitted until the watch was recovered. The con-
victs in this part of the prison, who amounted to the
number of 140, chose to consider this order as an ea-
croachment on their privileges, and, emboldened by
their numbers, not only resisted all search, but pro-
ceeded to acts of violence and outrage. '!'hey took
possession of the common yard, where they are al-
lowed to take*exertise, and see their friends, as well
as of the four wards wherein they are confined, ex-
pelling by force the officers and turnkeys of the pri-
sonifrom that quarter of the building. Here they
endeavoured to maintain themselves, and consider-
able alarm for some time prevailed lest they should
force the passages of the prison, and snake their
escape; but Mr. Newm AN, the keeper, having assem-
bled all his Akers, several shots were fired over their
heads, and inn different parts of the yard, rather
wail' a view to create alarm among them than to in-
dict any real injury, which the Keeper was humanely
anxious to avoid ; and at length they were driven
out ut the yard into the upper part of their Wards, of
which they remained in. possession, having torn
down the iron railling of the staircase, with the Irar
ments of which, and all that they could lay their
hands upon. they barricaded the entrance to their
wards at the top of the stairs. keepers having
regained possession of the yards, several shots were
again fired up the stairs, to intimidate and reduce
the rioters to mason, but with no effect : and Mr.
/411WIIAN thought that it would be only risking the
lives of his own servants it he sent any of them up
stairs to attack the convicts in their retreats, barri-
caded as they were and provided with iron bars: We
have not heard that any of these infatuated wrisches
were killed by the fire-arms. One it oovict who ven-
tured to come down from the upper wards, in Omer
to lay hold of an iron bar, was seized by that
and dragged into the yard by the turnkeys. T.
NSWAIAN, soon after the riot broke out, procured the
assistance of the City Marshalmen and a nutnbet,ot
Constables, whom he so placed as to prevent the
teas from breaking the prison, dr escaping in any
way by the ro if. He also seat to the Luau Mavou
and SHERIFFS for instructions how to act, but these
gentlemen happened to be oat of town. The watch,
the robbery or which bats created all this distur-
bance, was not discovered, and we understand that
the convicts endeavoured to capitulate, by proposing
that they should be at all times atluwud to see their
friends; but the keeper declared that they must Im-
plicitly submit to the regulations on this head ap-
pointed by the Magistrates and Judges. At one
o'clock this morning matters remained precisely ih
this situation. lit two at the wards all was silent,
but in the other two there were lights, and the con-
victs were seen pacing about. About an hour before,
noise was heard, as it they were endeavoaring to break
through the wall towards the College of Physicians in
Warwick-lane, but in a short time the noise ceased.
Qinstables and officers were posted in all pans where
escape appeared possible; and it seemed likely that
the refractory would soon be compelled to surrender
at discretion, as they had nothing but water where-
with to support their obstinacy ; while, it they at-
tempted to set fire to the prison, they must feel that
they themselves would be the first victims.

The late trial at Nottingham of the Luddites lasted
till half-past two o'clock un the Sunday morning.—
As the evening advanced, the conduct of the au-
dience, particularly in the outer Hall, became very
tumultuous; the lights were put out by the crowd,
who called out, 66 No lights here !" Every thing in
favour of the prisoners was applauded by clapping
of hands; and when the prisoners were declared Not
Guilty, the verdict was received with three cheers
within the Hall, and three times three without. Up-
wards of two thousand men were collected, the major
part of whom had sticks, and some are supposed to
have had pistols concealed. What the effect would
have been had a verdict of guilty been pronounced
against the prisoners it is shocking to think !
At the Assizes for Gloucester, an action was tried,
Carter v. Thomas for slander.—The defendant had
lone down to Gloucester to recover some rings that
Mr. Carter had obtained from his shop in London,
and there he warned other shopkeepers not to trust
hint, calling him a swindler. After a long trial the
defendant was acquitted. Mr. Thomas afterwards
with a party of friends drove through the streets in
an open carriage, preceded by a band of music, and
cheered by the populace.
At the Somerset Assizes, Gregory and Joseph, one
a baker, and the other a pawnbroker, of Frome, were
indicted and found guilty of a conspiracy, in collect-
ing together notes of Mr. MESSITER'S Bank, of that
town, to a considerable amount, and bringing them in
for Bank of England paper; Gregory also publicly
boasted, that by these means he would effect Mes•
strait's ruin. The Judge, in summing up, animad-
verted most severely en the conduct of Gregory, and
expressed his conviction that Mr. Messerea, in an ac
turn at law, might have recovered damages to the
extent of all the injury he had sustained.
An awful instance of sudden death occurred on ,
Friday morning, in the person of M.. JAMES WM..
Dam/, one of the Jurymen at Warwick Assizes.—
Having attended Court the preceding dub without
taking food, he ate a very hearty supper, and retired
to test. Between five and six o'clock in the morning,
he was seized with a pain in the stomach ; his bed-
fellow advised him to rub the part affected with his
hand, by which means he received a temporary relief.
In a short time the pain returned; he sat up in bed
for a few minutes, and then fell upon his lace and
expired.
Friday se'nnight, Peter Beard, aged 21, convicted
at last Winchester Assizes of a rape, and William
eVaykr, aged 26, of a burglary, sere executed, pur-
suant to their sentences, at the drop in that gaol, in
the presence of a great body of spectators. These
unhappy men died truly penitent; they were so deeply
affected in their last moments as to be scarce able to
support themselves.
An alarming fire broke out on Saturday evening in
Albemarle-street ; but, by timely assistance, it was
estiogaisbed without doing any material daraalle•

DAICA I 7 0I + 1 0 OM thWER ombkii.t OF
Tilt' METROPOLIS.

Blmarrits OF EVIPEVCE TAKEN BEFORE A COM.
Mk ME OE TB HOUSE OF COMMONS.

(Coathised (edi our Paper of Saturday.)
EXAMINATION OF DR. WO. POYNTER. ROMAN CATHOLIC
EISHOP OF THE LONIIOW DISTRICT—CONTINUED.
According to the discipline of your Church, are the
children and the unteirned allowed to read the Sci ip-
tures in the vulgar tongue ?—They are, under certain
regulations.
Of what nature are those regulations ?—That they
should not read them hi the vulgar tongue, without
the permission of their pastors.
Are they allowed to read them without notes ?
They are only allowed to read the approved Catholic
translations of the Scriptures, and we have no ap-
proved Catholic translations without notes.
Might not certain passages be selected which do
not require notes ?—Certainly ; but 1 must beg to
observe in general, out of the glow respect which I
feel for the sacred Scriptures. AS containing the re-
vealed word of GOD, t do not think it becoming that
the sacred Scriptures should be made a School•book,
for the purpose of teaching children to read.
Do you mean that there is something inconsistent
with the nature of that volume, that copies of it should
be suffered to lay about, and be ill•treated in schools?
—Mort certainly I do.
Is it a parent the Catholic discipline, that each
copy of the Catholic version of the Scriptures par-
takesinsonse wsy of the sacred character ?—Certainly.
Suppose a selection were agreed to Ly the Catholic
Prelates, and that the books in which that selection
was printed were different from the Scriptures, and
were mere common scho il.book,, do you consider
that the difficulty would be removed ?—II it contained
merely the tests of the sacred Scriptures, it appears
to me the difficulty would be the same.
Suppose it contained tests of Scripture along with
other matter, would it retain the same character ?—I
should not conceive it would, in that case the general
character of the book would no longer be considered
sacred; I. beg to add, there was never any prohibi-
tion at all in the Catholic Church against leading the
Scriptures in Latin; but all the regulations referred
to the translations in the vulgar tongue : and the
Church had two views—one, that the translation
shoul4 be such as was authorized by the Catholic
I Church ; and, secondly, that they should not be read
by those from whose ignorance or dispositions the
pastors of the Church had reason to fear that the
reading of the Scriptures would be rather prejudicial
I than beneficial to them.

Are not the Scriptures at present allowed to be read
in France, in the vulgar tongue, without notes ? l
think I have seen one,edition of the translation qf the
Scriptures in France without notes, but I am not sure.
Are those translations with notes in the vulgar
tongue allowed to be read by people in France ?-1
cannot well answer to the practice in France.
Da you consider their reading of them as contrary
to the discipline of the Church ?—Their reading of
them without the approbation and permission of their
pastors is not agreeable to the regulations made by
the Council of Trent.

Suppose the Catholic pastors were to find a copy
of the aualurized version of the Scriptures in the pos.
session of one of their flock to whom they had not
given such permission, what course would they take ?
I think, that unless they judged that the reading of it
would be prejudicial to the individual, that they
would permit him to read it.
Would he insinuate to them, that his permission.
ought to have been asked ?-1 must say, that that
entirely depends upon the ecclesiastical customs of
the country, for some of those regulations of disci-
pline are adopted in practice in some places, but are
not followed in practice in others.
How would this matter be in England ?—ln Eng.
land we generally permit the faithful to read the au-
thorized Catholic version in the vulgar tongue, which
are always accompanied with notes.
Do you apprehend any danger is likely to result
from educating the lower orders without communi-
cating at the same time religious instruction ?—I do
consider that the educating the lower orders without
giving them any religious instruction, may be rather
dangerous than beneficial to them : I beg to observe
that.l consider the preservation or correction of the
morals of the lower orders is the principal object we
should have in-view in their education ; and I am
persuaded that this end could never be obtained with.
out religious instruction; and on this subject, 1 ex-
press my firm conviction, that in order to preserve or
correct the morals of the lower orders, they must not
only be taught their duty to GOD and to society, but
the great motives of performing their duty must be
strongly enforced, which can only be done, in my
opinion, by the instructions and exhortations which
they receive from their pastors; and on this ground,
I consider that it is vain to expect that the morals of
the lower classes will be improved, unless education
comprises religious instruction.
Do you apprehend that the teaching of ch;ldren to
read, if unaccompanied with religious instruction,
does harm ?—I do consider that it might do a great
deal of harm; it would enable them to read every
thing that would tend to inflame their passions.
Does your observaticht apply generally to Catholics
as well as Protestints tip—Certainly ; and must parti-
' cularly to Catholics.
Why more particularly to Catholics ? I apply it
more particularly to Catholics, because 'my duty
obliges to me to attend more to their instruction.
Does your ol•servation apply to children in a large
town as London more particularly, than to children
in the country ?—Much more so.
Does it apply at all, or in any considerable degree
to children in the country ?—lt applies to children in
large towns in the country, where I conceive the
same occasions of evil will present themselves.
Does it apply to children in villages in country
places ?—Accordiug to the occasions of evil it must
vary.
Then in point of tact, in large towns such as Lon.
don, do you conceive that the children had better
remain without any education at all, than with some
education unaccompanied with religious instruction
—Certainly; education unaccompanied with religi-
ous instruction might be of service to them in the
stations they would occupy in the world, but would
of promote their happiness, I conceive neither in
this life or the next.
Are there not habits promoted by a course of cdu•

-*don which would, in fact, promote the* happineis
in this life as well as that to come ?--Ceer4thirit
might serve them in the world. .
The Committee have understood that a 'try lute
roportion of the poor children of the Etonian et, •
tholic persuasion in London is uneducated; and the. •
are desirous of knowing from you Vie hes! plan
giving them instruction; and for this purpose they .
would wish to know whether the Konian Catliolcc
body themselves have sullicient funds for ti e instrue. • 1
Lion of the children of the poor of their own perthi. ..
sion ?--In the first place, I do net think that the
Catholics have at present means adequate ei the
education of all the Catholic pour children in the
metropolis.
Do you understand that there are many thousand;
of those poor children uneducated ?-1 cannot meet'
tarn that ; but 1 conceive the number to be very cots. -'
siderable.
Then if the Roman Catholics have not the meal;
of giving instruction to their own poor, could di
parents of those children conscientiausly allow dial
,:i
to attend a school, the Master of which is a Prom ;
ant, where the Spelling Look and Protestant emit* 1
of the New Testament are the only school booki .
used, and where a clear assurance is given that a child '
would hear nothing against his ownreligion ?—With. .
out answering directly to the cons:ientioue part, which
is a point of extreme delicacy, considering the site,
tion I hold, and as every decision relating to oe,
science requires that the whole case, with all its et '
cumstances and variations, should be considered; I • *:
beg to say, that the reading of the Protestant venal
of the Bible is a point to which I could never give
my approbation.
Then as Vicar Apostolic you could not by any
means consent for Roman Catholics to be taught the
Protestant version of the Scriptures ?--Certainlynct.
Could you allow any portions of that version to be
selected for the use of the Catholic chip's:::
Not even those which convey mOial iiattuctinn,no
involving any doctrinal or controversial points?.,[
answer, in general, aceerding to. the :hick '
I laid down before, that I could not receive a Fmk. .:
of the Protestant Scriptures.
Could you devise any plan by which the priorebil.
dren of the Roman Catholic persuasion coeti be
educated by Protestants, consistently with theCatho: 1
lic discipline ?—Considering that Catholic ediicatioe
.;.
comprises religious instruction, I du not concise tli ; 441,
any plan of the mature proposed could be adopted, 1
which would meet the desires of the Catholics, arJ 1
in particular the pastors of the Catholic Chuich.
Are you aware that a great number of the childen 1
c-f the poor Roman Catholics in London are ennui!
destitute of education, and that they have fallen into
vicious and bad habits arising :rem Limit. ignorance!
I conceive there is a great number. It is a :act rte
cannot deny.
Nevertheless, as a Roman Catholic Bishop, cculd
you consent to any attempt to better their moral cos.
dition by the instruction of Protestants, or must you
not, consistently with Pout enty as Vicar Apostolic,
refuse your assent to any attempts of the kind made
by Protestants ? —As a Catholic Bishop, I do not
judge that theT mi rals could be improved but by
religious instruction, and I could no' consent for
them to receive it from Protestants. Te k rontisped

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