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London, England, 1828-06-10 00:00:00

FRENCH PAPERS.

FROM THR OAZITTC DR FRANC*. JUNZ 8.
CONSTANTINOPLE, MAT 10.
Tranquillity is confirmed; instead of being troubled
by the news from the theatre of war, every thing seems
to indicate that the Porte is disposed to yield; it is said
that the Reis 'Effendi has received orders to present to
the European Ministers a refutation of the Russian De-
claration of the 11th of March, and entirely to disavow
the Haiti Shetiff of 20th Dec. Though the prepara-
tions for defence continue, and a great deal of noise is
made, every body attends' to his own business, as in the
time of the most profound peace. The Sultan and his
Harem are gone to the summer Palace of Beschiktasch ;
the great men have given by turns fetes to their Sove-
reign. The Capitan Pacba began with a fete by
night in the Island of Halky, which cost above
100,000 francs. The Mufti has been deposed, as
as enemy to the new system. It is said, how-
ever, that his successor entertains religious sentiments
still more rigid. Hussein Pacha would probably have
been also dismissed if be had not been one of the sup-
poi ten of the new institutions. He has been so imprudent
as to declare in full Council that be could not take the
command of the troops with as much chance of success
is any other Mussulman, because he had played too
active a part in the destruction of the Janissaries. Toe
Sultan, who would willingly efface all remembrance of
that epoch, is said to have heard this declaration with
the greatest dupleasure. It is not very evident what
are the intentions of the Sultan himself, and it is not
known whether he means to resist the Russians. It ap-
pears that we hate been on the point of seeing a
counter-revolution attempted by the Janissaries. Some
hundreds of them bad coauived to enter the city unper-
ceived ; their intention was to take advantage of the fete
given by the Capitan Packs, to attempt the life of the
Sultan ; but the police was happily informed of their
intention, and arrested them in time.

The navigation of the Black Sea experiences at pee-
mu severe obstacles. The Austrian vessels which had
been detained here for some time, have received per-
mission to sail for that destination, losing forty-two per
cent. on their cargoes.
JASSY, MAT to.
The Turkish Governors of Braila and Silestria, seem
to have received orders not to commit any hostilities
against the Russians, who are advancing meantime in
the Principalities, and organising them ; but they have
sot yet passed the Danube at any point. The reports
that have been spread to this effect are premature. They
will not cross that river till about the Ist of June, when
the Emperor sill have arrived, and a considerable corps
will have approached Tesora.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS. Juin 9.
The Earl of ELDON presented Petition from Paisley. Stet-
hid; Croydon, Surrey; Widen, Base:; Sibtboope. Lars; and
from lisombridge, Salop, against forth,' commode= to the Ca..
amain.

lbe Earl of CARNARYON requested that the biter Petition
milk be end at length, also some of the nuns* of the Petitioners.
There was a singularity in it worthy of the nuke of the Horse.
Petitioners, as he was informed, expressed tbeir determina-
tion to support a religion settled at the Revolution.
The Petition was read, and Lord ELDON expressed his con-
fidence that before this night's debate was over, he should be able
to satisfy the House, that the otiginal Ecclesiastical Law of this
country was restored and settled at the &volution.
Tice Noble Lowe then presented a Petition from Cavan, Ire.
bad, easiest further concessions to the Catholics.
?he Doke of GLOUCESTER presented a Petition for the
Abolition of Slavery throughout the Colonies; also a Petition on
the whim of Catholic Emancipation, which, from scene informa-
lity was withdrawn.
The Duke tit W ELLINGTON presented a Petition from the
Royal Burgh of Down, against Nether concessions to the Catholics.
The Bishop of ILA NDA FF presented a Petition from Aber-
getkly, praying the House to take into consideration the laws
affecting the Catholics.

The -Marquis of UOWNSHIRE presented a Petition from a
great numbrr of parishes in the counties of Cavan Down, and
Antrim, paying for a repeal of the laws affecting Catholics.
The Duke of RUTLAND presented a Petition from a Parish
hl kesez against forage concession to flit Catholics.

Pettit:mawere ulna rewnteti by Lards imamam, Lowron, the
Duke of N MCA STLI4, and the iiiabop of L , against further
concretions to the Catholic..

The Marquis of LA NEDOWN presented a Petition from New-
ark, in favour of the Catholic Claims.
Earl G HEY presented a Petition from the Unitarian Chapel,
Hanover.square, Newcastle upon-Tyne, to the same effect.
The Duke of NEWCASTLE presented a Petition from Work-
sop. praying for assistance in Bung:Log a Chapel.
Sir A. GRANT, and others, brought up the Dill with the amend-
moots tor Improving the Law of Offences against the person.
Upon the motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWN it was or-
dered to be printed.
Lord CLI F DEN presented a Petition from the Protestants
of Blown, Oxfordshire. in favour of the Catholic Claims. The
Noble Lord 0111 t FVC4i, that from this Petition it would appear that
light was now breaking in on all quarters. He hoped their Lord
slops' House would not be the last place on which it would strike.
for it it were. their Lordships would be highly discredited.
The Duke of DEVONSHIRE presented a Petition pr. yi ig for
a repeal of the laws affecting the Cotheinal

" That it is expedient to take the Laws affecting his Majesty's
Roman Catholic subject: into con.ideration, with a view to such
a final and conciliatory adjustment as may conduce to the peace
and strength of the United Kingdom. to the stability of the Estab-
lished
Church. and to the concord and welfare of all classes of has

Majesty's subjects."
rite Marquis of LANSDOWN, in submitting his
motion that their Lot dships Mould agree to the Resolu-
tion communicated from the C-immo.ss respecting the
Laws affecting his Majesty's Roman Catholic subjects,
said, that when he presented the several Peti!ions which
had been mitt tasted to him by the Roman Catholics, be
felt that his duty to them was at an end; and that in
bringing lorwatd the present questi.mL he was dischar-
ging a duty not to the Roman Catholics of Ireland, not
to the Roman Catholics of England, but to the whole
country, Protestant as well as Catholic. He would not
be satisfied in proposing any measure, if he were not
satisfied that his proposition would conduce to the se-
curity of the Protestant interests and the Protestant
Establishments of the country. With this feeling he
called upon their Lordships; and in the outset he begged
to say, that the grounds upon which he mainly rested
his proposition to them was, the broad ground of expe-
diency. It had been said in other quarters that we note
sacrificed every thing to expediency; but he did not know
' what was to guide them in legislation but that, nor why
they sat there, unless it was to adapt the laws to the,
exigencies of the times. A Right Reverend Prelate had
lately laid down most ably and closely the ptineciple
upon which all restrictive laws were founded. and that
principle was one of expediency al, ne; and the Right,
Reverend Prelate had most properly added, that if re-
straints were to be imposed they were to be a Wai-
n/Atm, the least necessary for the accomplishment of the
object. The disabilities of the Catholics, although fie-
quently discussed in both Houses of Parliament,presented
themselves to their Lordships in a new shape. The ques-
tion came recommended by threesuccessive Parliaments.
The Noble Marquis urged the state of Ireland upon the
consideration of their Lordships; and befbre he sat
down, he would show not only that the apprehension
of danger, but the presence of danger existed in that
country. Tt.e measure which he now recommended to
their Lordships had been recommended by the most
splendid eff• its and by the dying breath of the greatest
Statesmen, when looking for ward to the future destinies
ot their country. It was not, therefore, a new question,
but it was now introduced to their Lordships in cir-
lcumstances which were new. It now came' before their
Lordships for the third time, and with the express re-
commendation of the Commons of England. It would
be his puipose this night to assume what would be
readily granted by those who opposed him, that the
feelings of atom, which had been forgotten by the
people, ought also to be forgotten by the Government,
and this excused him from the task of refuting the ar-
gument which had formerly been so much insisted on,
and what was founded upon anxiety for the security of
property is Ireland. Most of the property in that coun-
try was held by the tenure of confiscation. But the
danger which had formerly been dwelt on was never
maintained in the present day. And why this? It was
because Catholic lawyers and Catholic merchants were
now more desirous of purchasing this property than
:any other. The title to it was the clearest °rainy, and
I so little fear was entertained of the claims of the de.
scendants of those Roman Catholics who had been the
original, possessors, that it was preferred to Other pro-
perty, that afforded a greater prospect of litigation.
They bad less dread of the Pope than of the Court
of Chancery, and preferred consulting their lawyer
to the taking the advice of the Confessor, oe attend-
ing to the prophecies of Pastorini. He now begged
to call their Lordships attention to the state of
Catholics in foreign countries. He knew of no coun-
try in which similar disqualifications to those affect-
ing the Roman Catholics at the Empire were in exist•
mice. And let not their Lordships suppose that the
acts which enforced them, however fairly engrossed in
their Statute Book they might have remained for one
or two centuries, were now the same as at the time they
were enacted. Circumstances had changed around
them, and while they fancied themselves standing upon
the same spot, the ground was washes from under their
feet. 'I hose searchers into Catholic hearts, and those
expounders of Catholic consciences, who pretended to
see what the Catholics would du in circumstances in
which they were not, and would not see what they were
doing in the circurnstat.ces in (which they actually were
—he recommended to their consideration the words of
Dr. Milner at the conclusion of his history of the Ai-.
nteni..n and Calvinistic controversy. These word,
were. " that neither party should be pressed with
opinions or consequences which they disowned." It
was of much importance to keep this principle in view
in the Protestant and Catholic conttovers), and not to
impute to persons opinions which they repudiate. The
Noble Marquis then insisted at great length upon the
situation of the Catholics in the (Joked States of Anse-

deprived of all influence, in cowecptence of the circuto
stances in which they were placed; and a Priesthood
ossessed of gteat influence, which they were bound to
exercise in opposition ro the G ivernment. This state
of things was monstrous and unisons -id. it was not in
that House that be need show the u .efulness of an aris-
tocracy, of expatiate upon its influence to soften the
naked hand of power, he would not say of violence, or
its fitness to serve as the mild conductor of authority.
Was it nor natural that in this state of thingsthey should
see arise an illegitiaia'e authority, to thesuppression of
lan !egiismate power ? The charter of the Catholic
Association was the exclusive laws—(Hear, hear, from
Lord CLIFDEN.) if put down in one place, something
of the same lona would spring up in another, and the
spisit to which it was indebted for its existence would
never be extinguished but by equal laws. This was the
aistinctive feature of the danger. But before he closed,
there were two questions which were frequently asked,
and which he would attempt to answer. It was asked,
were they certain that by removing these disabilities,
happiness and tranquillity would be restored in Ireland?
And it was further, asked, what securities were to be
offered for the Protestant Church ? To the first of these
questions he would reply, that he never had said or
thought the removal of the disabilities would at once
and instantaneously produce peace, and satisfaction in
Ireland; he only contended that without this all other
means would be ineffectual. The evidence given before
the Committee, that all the other evils of Ireland, ab-
senteeism, want of capital, want of confidence io the
Owl, all diverged into this, as rivers received tributary
streams, and ultimately fell into the sea. With respect
to the question of securities, he had nothing to propose
until he heard what those who thought securities ne-
cessary required. His opinion was, that the best pos-
sible security was to attach their affections, and to root
out the opinion that the Church of Egland was the im-
pediment which stood between them and justice—that
it was this Church which they had to °vet pooer, and
this solitary obstacle which they had to surmount. No
one pretended that they could retrace their steps.l
not ee the Orange witnesses before the Committee.,
These, and he spoke it to their honour, admitted that,
as the penal laws bad been insulficieut to keep down a
and a half of Catholics, they must be still mote
ineffectual to keep down seven million,. The Noble
Marquis, after several other observations, concluded a
very long speech by moving the Resolution.
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY felt called upon,
from the situation he held. to express his sentiments upon
the present occasion. The Noble Marquis had brought
forward a Resolution which had already received the
sanction of the other House of Parliament, and which
gave a pledge that the Legislature would find some
means of bringing about a reconciliation with theßoman
Catholics, and that those means should be such as to
give stability to the Established Church, and satisfac-
tion to all classes of his Majesty's subjects. It be thought
that this Resolution could be carried into effect with as
much ease as it was proposed, he should heartily con-
cur in it; but when he recollected that every fresh effort
to conciliate had been followed by fresh impatience and
fresh disappointment, he owned he despaired of any
such satisfactory adjustment being accomplished. The
most opposite views of the question prevailed amongst
different persons, all equally well affected to the Con-
stitution; and when the vast importance of the question
was considered, it was not surprising that gi eat warmth
and zeal, and even some degree of turbulence, was ex-
cited by it. In this unhappy state of t iisigs, they were
called on for a display of wisdom and firmness ; and as
Parliament would not, on the one hand, o ithhold from
the Roman Catholics any privileges which might be
conceded with safety, so neither, on the other hand,
would it concede them any whidt could not be granted
without danger to the Constitution. Every Govesnment,
like every individual, possessed the tight of self-defence,
and was justified by that right in excluding from office,
whether executive or legislative, all who held opinions
dangerous to the State, without such securities as might
effectually guard against and prevent the stinger. This
was his view of the subject, and to this view he would
confine himself in the very tew observations lie had to
offer to their Lordships. In the reign of Queen Eliza.
beth, the policy of the Government was averse to coer-
cion or disqualification, and the Roman Catholics were
permitted to take their places in Parliament; but at a
1 oer period, in the reign of Charles the Second,the coun-
try had become convinced by events of the necessity or•
their exclusion, and a declaration was then insisted on,
which had the effect of removing Roman Catholics from
the Houses of Lords and Commons. In this state the
Roman Catholics remained until the reign of King
William. At that time, the laws affecting the Roman
Catholcs were made more strict ; and, although during
the last reign, several important relaxations had take,'
place, they still remained as they had been from the
time of Charles the Second, excluded from the Legis-
lature, and the higher offices in the State. These ex-
clusions he was still disposed to maintain, with no other
object in view than that Which he believed was com-
mon to all their Lordships, however variously they
might think it was to be appreciated—the maintenance
of this Great Empire, and above all the maintenance of
the Established Religion—(Cheers).
The Archbishop of TUAM said. he felt it necessary
fo offer a few observations to their Lordships. If the,
question on which. they had to decide was one of mere
expediency, he might be willing to leave its discussion,
and even its decision, to others. But they all knew that
expediency might be different from tight; and that
what was right mutt be preferred to what was only
ezpediest;• and before the House could venture to place