Star.
London, England, 1828-05-13 00:00:00

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istisr fS years since. The opponeats of the motion
natural', enough said, "Why do you trouble the ware: i?
Why do you yourselves fish in doubled waters? Why
administer roe licine when the patient is well? Iluetwherr,
beabouldabow the House that the case was one of com-
plicated danger; when he should show that there was no
trenquillity. no peace—and then when he should come
acid show that the dangers that existed were greater
then those apprehended—he thought be should have
does enough to induce the House to concur in the aro-
tiontheo before it. Every one of the arguments of his
nee. and Learned Friend, the Attorney-General, and
Of Abe °allelic Admiral, the Member for Wesford, were
obvious to refutation. Of them here was f Sample—
Isis. Honourable and Learned Friend said, " Look at
the dangers that may arise from Popeiy,"—an'd in say-
ing so, he could not but remark that his Hon. and
Learned Friend borrowed his tone rather from the Hon.
and Gallant Member for Wexford. than from. the Right
Honourable Member for Oxford. of Luck," said his
Honourable and Learned Friend, "at the dangers to be
apprehended from concession"—and in so saying, made
a particular application to him (Mr. Brougham), as it
he had preceded, instead of being about to. follow his
Hon. and Learned Friend; and in .so applying to him,
his Hon. and Learned Friend said he supposed he (Mr.
Brougham) had in his hand ut that moment one of
those formidable Bulls from the Pope. of which he bad
so much apprehension—(A laugh).
The ATTORNET.ORNICRAL—I said the Treaty et Lim.
rkli—(A laugh).
BROUGHAM resumed. He had observed the
peat degree of attention which his Hon. and Learned
Friend meant to attach to the question of a Treaty with
the Pope, asking o how are you to keep ont bad dot-
nines, it you enter into treaty with the Pope r His lion.
and Learned Fiend dwelt much upon the antipathy of
Vic Pope to Bible Societies, contending that he would
oppose' the dtssem:nation of the Holy Scriptures.—
Hut two things bad occurred—the one, that the
Poi,e had not advanced with the times; to the match
of •intellect, he had been lett behind ; he had not
kept pace with the Worm .don of the age ; h
issued those Bulls.. They 'were of an evil tendency,
to be sure; but did he not issue them at presence=
Had he not • frequently done so even of late Yeats?
A•' flnll *as issued in 1822 by Pope Leo the Twelfth,
to the Catholics of Ireland. against the Bible &reit..
ties..' Would there be mo.e danger if it were issued
and received alter conceding to the Catholics their
Claims, than at the present time, when no means of
alliyiag the ferment of the public mind had been
put. in practice? It was a remarkable fact that Pope
104 XII. two years afterwards, in 1824, issued a Bull to
one of the German States--note in which he had con-
sented that something like a Veto should prevail—the
introductory paragraph to which ran thus—" Whereas
it is necessary that we should keep pace eith the im-
provements of the age, and modify our measures to-
meet the spirit and the exigencies of the time." the
Siete to which that document applied was the king-
dem of Hanover, and in which it was forti§ed by the
Proclamation of our own benign Monarch—(Cheers)
—awe() thus admitted his Hanoverian:. without
unction of creed, to ail the rights, privileges, and
liberties of the State: The Honourable and Gallant
Admiral asked were there no Protestants in Ireland
lie jM. Brougham) would also ask, were there iv:
Piotestants in Ireland who should thus' set them-
selves op in opposition to the Rica body of their
countrymen, who ptolessed a religion which they need•
Leafy 'created, an opposition religion, which mirt
othrkwise be as quiet and as neighbourly a religion as
could be met with ?—(Hear). Atter all that had been
said on the subject. the question came to this—could
things remain a. they wet e?—(Hear, hear). We a ere
told there would he danger in a change; in what did it
cdosiit ? On I-oking over the list of apprehended sclan-
gers. from beginning to end, he could not perceive
one point on which alarm ought to be felt, or on wid:h
the Honourable Baronet, the Member for Ripper.,
could comtprt himself with the idea th it things
could remain as they were.--(Hear, and a laugh)
Tnat question had been put by his Learned Friend
ti,e Solicitor General tor Ireland. in a speech not likely
to be soon forgotten, which bad been rivalled perhaps.
though tier eelipsed, by sortie of the many esti aordinary
.....effortiof talent made that night—(Hear. hear). And
bus Honourable and Learned Friend called upon the
Homo to ',limn from reference to ancient Treaties. but
come at once to the practical question, on ohich Hoe.
Members ought to make up their minds, and give to
the public an answer to the question, " Can things re.
main as they ire?" Sure he was, that it any twelve
of the Honourable Gentlemen who then heard him
were impannelled as a Jury to try the question, a ma-
joelty of them 'would declare upon their consciences
• thht things could trot so remain—(Hear). T ey knew
it could not—they lelt it was a question resting iiion
truth: They saw the progress it had made within doors
—its growth without—but above all, they observed the
progress it had made in Ireland--(Cheers). It was a
km to call it a Catholic Question—it s' as a Protestant
Question. What then was to be done ? Th-y could
not-think of going back and repealing the Acts 0f.177S
and 1793. What then* was to be done? To pass the
Bill for emancipating the Catholics would be tit e and
a true mode of pacifying Ireland. But he was ye, y tar
from saying, that if winkles were deemed necessary by
those who differed from him, that he would not go into
a consideration of them with all possible readiness, and
every desire to quiet their scruples and apprehension .
The House might add a'declaration, and invent what•
ever other security might be required when it should
Rd into Committee. What was the sum add substance
of. what was objected? "Don't be iiironiii,ireir." Who
were see king to intimidate? He could not conceive. They,
the suppot ters of the question, were merely dogrel'. and
-felt a degree of timidity on the subject different lions that
base principle, the tear of personal consequences. He
did most heattily rtjuice to observe, that the House
would come to the decision of that important question
with more of calmness, more of temper, than had chid.
remedied the close of any former similar disc union.—
And 'be trusted, as the Progress of it had 'b en ac-
companied by moderation, so would the end not be
signalised, however it might turn out, by any ex-
pleasion of triumph. He felt painfully the weight of
thole peat interests, the balance of which was now
trembling. It was not now merely a general ques-
tion of sound policy that the House had to decide;
it was not merely the peace of one half of the Empire,
end it might he at no distant period die safety of the
otter. The fixed attention, the ansieterhopes of mil.
Bois of their brave fellow subjects, their nearest weigh-
bolas, their brethreo. were all directed towards the
elision to which •thtlienise was about to Come. Etc
aolk hoar more, should be meatored by thatcluck, be
orristod that all tbeii hope. would be gratified, and that'
thtfir gratification mold be melted with meal good& I
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TUESDAY, MAY IS, IB2Bi

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CITY, lIALF-PAST ONE O'CLOCK.
We understand that through. the prompt m aaaaa es of the Duke
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signed in Loudon, between the Brazilians and Buttons Ayreans.—
This took place yesterday, and will be,dispatched tn the Ikazila by
the Snit packet. •
The RUYSIMS Minister at Stockholm has received dispatchasso
which state that the Imperial Guard has left st. Petersburgb.,,, .
Orders had been received at littebilrt, to get ready for sea tbp
Dyad of slaty-four guns, and two bun* vessels.
The Consul market has remained steady the whole of thteerreoti
lag, and ha. been fluctuating between zSI end 15. and at present
way be quoted at 554 4, with little Join. •
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The Stir of Game Bat passed the House of Lords
hat night by a nujority of omen.
Ttie motion of S r FRANC 33 BaRDRTT, on the Omtho-
lie Question, wa. last tight resumed in the Iles•e of Cireitiiani,
and terminated this morning at Three **Ouch, when the numb's,.

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Audiatur et alters pars is an adage no less to be re
spected from its venerable ao tiquity stomp men in
general, than on the score Grits being the futsdithit4tl"
principle of eternal justice. In the DeClarasion4"the
C•nsr,. cf Russia, which we hiee given in our yester-
day's Paper, as also in the explanatory remarks in
'cried this day', all the complaints are embodied which
that Court had had the misfortine to seller from its on-
conciliatory neighbour. We are certainly far !pen being
inclined to &feud the. unjust and impolitic bops which
the Ottoman Porte has- allowed .herself to take hem
the beginning of the lnsnrrection of Greece and the
Principalities,numifestlyto her own injury ;.abe raflisird
to iigell to the voke of teasers and modetation.; she de
livered herself uR tosan tintelenting I us y;with.mt Lace!.
tnineting between the innocent and the guilty, sousing
by it the sympathy of all Christian nations for their
suffering brethren, and defying, in- a language hitherto
unexampled in tie records.of diphimacy, a neighbour,
whose gigantic power she appeared to bare taken a
pleasure in challenging. But has she, on her part, no
complaints to make, not only against her insurgent sub-
jects who began the contest lin. their freedom with
acts of cruelty against the innecent, the aged; the
seenan, and the Want, in spite of all the precepts
of hunianitr and the Holy Religion they . prates,
but also against foreign nations themselves ? Has
she not to complain of the constant and effective
assistance given to her Greek subjects, directly and in-
directly, in older to keep the flame of reveltalive ?
Via she not to complain of the violation cf the principle
ninon-interference, hitherto kept sacred lb the key-stone
'to the existence of independent States? • His she no
complaints to profferegainst the ever memorable battle
atNairatin, which anniailated, in less than five hours,
her whole fleet, her existence as a maritime Power, and
which cost her top faat4
.sectikes to maintain Has
she opt to col** • tannage held
soot her dug peace, to commendatory Resbripti