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London, England, 1803-05-07 00:00:00

rARLIAMENTAiir PROCEEDINGS.

HOUST. OP LORDS, FRIDAY, MAT 6.
Mr. Adam was heard ter the Relpentdent in dee Snitch Ap-
peal of M.sephertnn 9. Hannay, and the deem of the Court. of
Sal is aa• rArnu.d.
Lents Muntagre and &awl tank the owls 111 their feats.
sot.v stirs.

On the motion for the cooxinktal of the Infulvent Debtors 13!1/,
Lord MOIRA role, and in a very able fpeetb, took a wide
' and comprehenfive view of debars of obit country with refpcet
to debtor and creditor, and complained of the plaice which,
contrary to the principles of the conftinitioa and the precepts Of
univerfal juft icc, the creditor sow pilaud of indicting ptunOt-
ment upon his debtor. it was the only Inflance hi which an
individual was allowed to be Judge In his own caste, and per-
mitted to fulijedi another man to penal imprifonment. (fur it
was cavilling with terms to call it any thing elk), without any
proof of delinquency. Agairift this defauk it was his with to
fr.:wide a remedy, not by a temporary ad, but by a permanent
regulation. It was a room= raying, that there wer4 so evil
debtors to sae cruel creditor. He would not deny that frsodo-
/du debtor, were numercoes-yperhaps, more than half of dude
who motradted debts did fo, doh r with no intrttios to pay,
or firandered the romps whicii fhould be applied to that purr.
pots. Such wroth it wig the °Med ells m-afure to excbate
bit though he meant to propott fo to do, be would not be ters-
derflood to 'secede to the *bolt of the raying be alluded to.—
Thera might be many evildebtors, but that could only be al-
fumA, while the entity of creditors was,proved by many re-
corde—it was proved by!tlfe report of thc Society far the relief
of perfonv conlined for anall debts, from where report It ap-
',enc.!, that in the yearsodlng the lit of March, am, they
liberated 1125 perfona, who were confined for debut, on an
avera,c cot exceeding al. 716 ad. per bead; Mal thefarcelhal: Ft'
footms had soo wives and too children. On the inp and
lattice of fuels creditor., he thought a comment would be ru-
perlittnus. He cited the cafe to thew the preftist sectility re
1 Titlative interpofition. Tbc Noble Lord hated tha•Bill he
held in his band to be merely a tratifeript of the lad Sill which
the Houfe had adopted • but that in the Cormulttrt, tic meant
to people a Ciao& which would obviate the pecciSty of any
further infolvent Rills, for the object of re sootild be to give a
pow r to confined debtors to appeal to the 'Magiftratds*
Quarter Sefhons, and that, if Mote Magiftrates fee net Se, the/
Could b: Molded with as awhority to rtfer the Off tea Pim
whole decifions Mould be final, either to liberate the prifoner4
or, if found to be fraudulent in Ms views, to teetering: Idix to
prifon, se • parliament, for Nadine as Siatild,logar=
It was alto a part of hip plan, that die creditors, ea a
should be able tool** from debtors. what mg bwdii-
ed to prefer a prlfzn to stair (ado:sent, a lull account Asti
trader ((their dralis,—There were the peteninatt lump*
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•of the Chore be Gould febmit • providWg nab, that the Nita-
pangs amid, isail cafes, where they raw proof at Same lis
an appealing dtb.or, be at liberty to mono bias toys us fee
another year, if they thought ***lraq. The lb* 1,41,4 cot
duded with faying, that hie Vrtlh was, the DUI psould.
' -saw tote/anted that tbe Claufehe d
*4 t gateousehildf%.
the twill pritted, and that the dlfatedo
1 aas a re4ollimilai ea,Tiakidar net' i_ . -t:,. t. aa I
. .. iiordX 00000000000 defended theimam tic
i ,ltd Co kais eziard„, Mateetai7 to Mahican that,
r . the Hie iii 4 foal of itieboastry, and he
the • Noble Lord's. pee& With wiped sa the
snake to the a toareikeens **Ad by tbe,Sodeil4br Maki-
iog Pcifoot cottoned for (mii 4sigkheialiptipl,that 44ciatiot
Snemmt was secetary to irtshirdo that tiAit edam
many thoefands of the poor filbillkid t tad If tbillVdatutgigg-
fend prim* ware an mated, yefbamisalliseit Millasa WNW
base banal As te thernsisiegaidawaf IR
be *add data tbstitagferbara
gram Ma mama lids elle
iMli thesitheoes st till
the rafters really amidst tee he beroli ef fuelb ifiaidatia i
few, and be was =tab thee few wadi. whom dadredbairat
ei not tail facoefs la an appssi % their Utaz 4
tillit of
an CII•114 LLLLL failawed, en the fame,
retest. that unong dlw Wed petialbant hums bi the
ehindiar was tie kallabley ef twamadh maw, wad sh
lsdia *proximity &hawk' Atm Ws own ezpialme
aihnipatemien of disbealmpt bare He bad, diaishre„ me
fear do would br 'melded an the debtor wimp
Inalaty wee lot to want of principle et Wafter.—
With uppi to the Debtors' Bias it:newly, they irde
tabs embisred wait ralhaisat an &etiolates a• wail agars
drbairn, WA in %1 /OW Oir4lenwasosabs andbioni
da=titir mre to ents delsamilefts-
as nieditria be Of
the aybion, di; IlanWeitallissfilean W4o4*
bpiWii-
ration to .0010 a ait at kor parr sob weal
ember reatmalt/4 Welk* ft Id wig • tun ever si. as Many
more hanums mad to drertatliddision. As ta •
' thh Bill is , cod that kora iha Sea tonne It
I was aseerienet too prifon.,lB the Uwe bear
t Attie by it, add& Mgt, it bad goat .lit the Hsi
I tbe aambar wee kimelsl..
Aber aaabis mile •mat Lend Mesa* the males to taw
mai.) was rejediell, with only one deft adan voice, and ild
bat or °oak isloa. • . ,
rozociatiow.
Lord PILRAN role, and began by abetting is '
the notice of a Motion from a Noble Lord, whit*
Rood for Monday, and Rated that he And a exiifi. .
munieation to'illake, which world, be
fuperfede the neeeSty of that Motion, though
had to regrets that this crtattatshiciation was nut
quite conclufive.tipon the fobjea, and he had nil
Snore to regret that it was of a nature which mai
be more paid'sl to the feeliqrs of then. Lot*
(hips than all thefufpetife and uncertainty in whi
the Houle and the Countiy bad been fo long b -
fo necefarily placed. The ftib.jea of this comma-
, nieation, he oerieed to be, with regard to a cite
' cumftance particularly *Arch had talen place Ns
1 morning. and of which he thought it hat duty to
inform their Lordlitips. • The Froth Miter
bad, in is-fiance of infieseita from bit Court, 11!
pried for a pops?, esikh etas e end; irmarga—
He had alfo to mention, that his Mejetty's. Mint,
Rem had fume diys Since fent direttions to Lord.
Wntrwoarnithat if he fhould not be able, Titbit',
a certain period. to bring the Neiation iota
point, that he fbouldleave Paris. They had not,
however, yet received any communication frosts •
that noble perfonage to apprize them of the •
event, whether he had terminated the Negocia•
tion, and 'dually left Paris, though, in his opinion,
his Lordfhip was on his journey bum. Hots.
ever, until Mininers received intelligence front
him, his Majeßy world not be enabled to comma.
nicate to the Houfe that full and'fatisfaetory infor-
mation. which he was anzions to do. and "kick
was defirable and necefary. 'This, be had cod.
dent expernation would be laid bcfose their Lot&
(hips on Monday Den, to which day he wow
propofe an adjournment.- Undseßan that
tome Noble Lords objeaed to the delay. be
tra4
it neceffary to °Mime that k would be
impoMblo to sobs diArilled fat osiairambadis

footle, and he taw 1115 neeeffity that exifted,
any ufe that could arifk from fitting to-morrow,
contrary to the general cuftom.
Lord DAINLIY could not perfuade himfelf that
it would be proper in him, from the kind of Rate-
r:lent which the Noble Secretaryof State hadmade,
to withdrawthe notice he had given of a motion for
Monday; on the contrary, he thought it ltM more
neceffary.—However, he felt, that under thefe
cir-
cumflances, he was decidedly of opinion that it
would be highly 'improper to adjourn over till
Monday. In fuch a (late of affairs their Lordfhips
Mould cont'nue at their poll, for fomething might
occur, even within 24,hours, which would require
the atEltance of their advice. The Noble Secre-
tary had indeed promifed a fatisfaclory communi-
cation on Monday ; but he fpoke not in the lan-
guage
of certainty, and he therefore felt difin-
clined to abandon the motion he had propofed to
bring forward. The fyllem of confidence in Mi.
niflers had been too long followed np. This in-
dulgence ought now at leall to terminate. The
mifchiefs of delay were but too obvious; and
among its confequences, the late difgraceful tranf-
ation at the Stock Exchange was very fairly to be
claffed. He would not, therefore, content to any
farther procraaination, but would on Monday,
unlefs the promifed communication fliould be made
on that day, call upon Minitters for their defence,
and for an explanation as to the prefent (late of
the Country. Upon this be was determined to
take the fenfe of the Houle. With rerped to the
adjournment, he thought it ought not to go be-
yond to-morrow ; but he would leave it to tome
Noble Lord of more weight to propofe a motion
to that effe&

Earl Sr DICER was furprized thatMiniflers corld
attempt to propofe any adjournment beyond a tin-
gle day, in fuch a conjundlure as the prefent. It
was, to be lure, (fated, that it would be impoflible
for Minifters to give full informationto the Houfe
as to the caufe of that conjunilure before Mon-
day; but that was not a reafon why their Lord-
fhips fhould not continue to fit, at a time when
we might perhaps be within an hour of abfolute
war, when we were unaware of the amount of the
dangers which menaced the country, and of the
provifions made againa them. The Houfe would
defert its duty if upon fuch an occafion it contented
to any longer adjournment than was really necef-
fary. It was rather, in his judgment, incumbent
on their Lordthips to take up the fubjed of public
affairs with zeal and promptitude, and interpofe
between Minillers and the Crown, in order to rave
the country. It might be raid that lie was prema-
tdrely entering into the quellion, that he was
making obfervations which had a tendency to ex-
cite ill humour, but he would not be influenced by
arguments drawn from filch fources. It would be
culpable any longer to attend to fuch remarks.
Too much forbearance had been mandated, and
the country had reafon to regret it. The Noble
Lord concluded with moving, that the word" to-
morrow" thould be fubflituted for " Mondaynext."
The Loan CHANCELLOR profeffed his regard for
all thofe who felt a warm folicitude for the public
intereit, and paid a dole attention to their public
duties; but he did not fee that any advantage
could arife from the attendance which the Amend-

went propo(ed. As to the cenfures which a Noble
Lord had thought proper to pronounce on the
matures of Minifters, he thought that it would
be but candid in that Noble Lord to fufpend his
cenfures until he Ihould know what thole meafures
were. It was undoubtedly deferable tha: their
Lordfhips fhould, by the faithful execution of their
duty, deferve the approbation of the country, but
he was certain their attendance to-morrow would
not in the leaft degree tend to raife them higher in
the eftimation of any part of the thinking and ra-
tional public.--The Houle could not go into the
rubjea of the prefent Rate of the country, until
the communication fliould be made, which his No-
Me Friend had raid it was impoffible to prepare
before Monday, and therefore he would afk what
and it could anfwer to meet to-morrow?
Lord D could not pretend to the accu-
racy of expretfion which diftinguiffied the Noble
and Learned Lord who (poke left, and he was
therefore, perhaps, liable to be mifunderftood.—
He could afire that Noble Lord that he had quite
inifunderftood his fentiments, (or he meant not to
make any ftriltures on Minifters at prefent. He
only exprefred tha anxiety which he, in common
with every £nglithman, mull feel for a complete
and explicit ftatement as to the prefent fituation
and profpeas of the country.
Lord Cat nista remarked onthe objeaionsmade
to the amendment by the Noble and Learned
Lord on the Woolfack. His Noble Friend, when
he alluded to the protrated negotiation, did not,
he was fore, mean to confine the allufion merely
to the (even weeks which had elapfed fence the
Meffage of his Majefty was delivered to the Houle,
but to the nineteen months negotiation in which
Minifters had been engaged fince the figning of
the Preliminaries which fucceeded the Treaty of
Amiens, and which had fo long kept the country
in fulpence. This was the firiL objet of his noble
Friend's animadverfion. It was not to be fuppof-
ad that their Lordfhips would not rife higher in
public eftimation by paying loch attention to the
'tate of affairs at this moment as their nature ur-
hlenity called for. The Noble Secretary of State
ad informed the Houfc that the French Ambaf-
fador had applied for a parport, and was about to
leave England, and that Lord Whitworth was in.
[bated to leave Paris. and in that Noble Lord's
opinion he had aCtually left it. If fo, was not that,
he would afk, a Rate of war, and could the Honk
then agree to one hour's unneceffary adjournment ?
The public mini was in a Rate of inexpreflible
anxiety, and their Lordfhips fhould ure their ut.
molt endeavours to allay it. According to the
report without doors, he would not fay that it
came (torn Minifters, but he uoderflood it to pre-
vail among intelligent perfons, that a meffenger
was hourly expeaed from France, with intelligence
from our An.baffador, If fo, why poßpone the
1-A6a:onion of the public mind to Monday next ?
Cutiofity ought to be gratified as loon as potlible.
Knitters ought to have felt it, and the proputi•
Lion for a (hurt adjournment ought to have come
from thumfilvcs. However, be united the Haute

would fully !milder their duty, and adopt the
motion of his Noble Frietd. _ _

The motion for an adjournment till Monday was
agreed to after a divifion.
Contents 29.—Non contents R.—Majority at.
The Houfe adjourned accordingly.