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station in the Councils of his Sovereign, he mist stead
op and say, not that be will give no further explanations,
but that be is prepared to mike good his charges
(Loud cheers). I tell him, that whether as Chancellor
;of:.the Exchequer, or in any infetior situation to which
b may descend, there is no place connected with the
Government so degraded, that its possessor can make.
charges of so deep a dye, and enjoy the confidence of the
once,
sulcient to retain his post, unlisi be make chi
good—(Cheers). _

• Mr. HERRIES—After what has Isten.saiall trust
tiliall hst permitted to addreis i ' few viaids.to. ilii
House,' not certainly to announce . that I.have altered
ordtermination, or that I am prepared..tomake any
disclosures—(Hear, and a laugh) —4 mean, Sir, that I
Will not mike any specific charge agnisist iidividaidsi
When Iyose upon a former night, it wm oco.uocalied,
for; My explanation was not gratuitous. 'And hoW tbf
lon. and Learned Gentleman could assert that it was
•oratuitous, after what had passed, is to me Matter of.
the greatest astonishment7.7(Hear, hear). I was direethl
adverted to hi the Noble L trd (Noimanby), a,4 whit
thee my explanation was or was not asked for, as Sat
talon. and Learned Gentleinao has allowed himself to
say, he must know that statementswere made by that
Noble L .14,. which I could not have left, unanswered
Withonlienving some imputation upios myself; . I vim
cialkd on to explain matters which related to myself
triciiially ;7104 respecting them I am sure I may say
that I gave every possible satisfaction-.(Hear, bear)
The whole point of the explanation .tOich it .had been
requisite for me to Make refeire9 ,io'srxratitetatices ,i4t-
tributedto one period, toliich in fur 1444 to ado,
theri.aOd I arts perfectly sitlifled that, io the.11414,,0f
every fair and honourable man, My conduct between
the Ist and 4th December, M regarded my Right. Hop.
#tie4d;ivill send as , fair and upright:.. Outs I Will -Air
ways re-assert, that It Lai let been cos ;icily .iiiitedibgt.
my resignation of my.late office caused 'the dissohation
of the Government. lam convinced it was not so; I
knOW it,-(Hear; heir; from the Opposition eencheia).-
I:use the word, Sir, in the same sensein whicb Ilised
it before—as a man may know anything by inference—
by drawing conclusions from the most palpable grotitial
-41IfOrmors); .1 say, Sire that I 'know it vras,not So;
*Mil .„My.,,resignktion, was. not ,enough,.. without
°this .gtounds, to bring abOut such an. event, An
Honourable 'Gentleman opposite' said he did.. apt
metlit . it—meaning the statement that there were
other causes et sit ork—(Hear, hear)., In ansoer ..to
that, ill I shall say is, that I discredit the statement.—:
ksay that there is no one out of the House, not only.of
those connected with Government, but I believe in the
whale kiagdomorbo has witnessed the public events
'afflinh.bave passed, and which I have adverted, to, who
has failed to draw this conclusion, although I admit
that I and Others know more upon the subject than they
do—(Hear). I say k is impossible. but that there must
be other causes and other motives, much more material
than my tender of resignation, which
,must hi,VC ope-
rated to produce the events which have taken place. I
also say that thoie who undertook- to give au account of
those causes, and who were competent togive a full One
did refer to other circumstances, besides my stets, as being
both active, and of great importance, in producing the
results which have taken place. Those very persons who
have mentioned my resignation as of importance, have,
I repeat, alluded to' other circumstances as being most
material. Why, then, did they not describe them?
Why were they not called' on to snake the disclosure?
The party that . undertook to give the account of any,
ought to account for all the causes. If, then, as they
say. there were other causes which would render the
trifling circumstance of my resignation of consequence
in producing these events, I say it was necessary for them
to shew all those other operating causes, by which so
trifling an event could cause the catastrophe which is
tomplained'of. Again, therefore, do I ask the Right
Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Charles Wynn) whether
hOwis not himself then aware that there were abun-
dant other causes likely, to contribute to such an event ?
I now again repeat what I always have slid,. and` ever
shall Sliy, that my resignation was not the subitantial,
the real, or the operative cause of the dissolution of the
Government. • .
Mr. C. W. WYNN.,-.4 beg to repeat in the Most dis-
tinct terms, that I do believe the dissension between
the Right Hon.-Gentleman who has just spoken, and
the Right Hon. the Sometarf' falls* Colonies' .M hive
been the cause of the ditielutinii` of the. lateacivein-
Meat.. 'there was no Other cause ithitsoeirer;—(Hear,
bear). Whether. the Government Child sbinil 'after the
Meeting of Parliament, must, of course, hake depended
upon whether or not it would havellinConfidence of
Parliament; but this Isam certain -Or, that it did ioteod
to have. Met Parliantent ; and that' it' was deeeirisksedlo
meet the contest on 'that occasion, 1 assert With" Con-
fidence. I will also ask the Right ' 'Hotiottrable
Gentleman' whether, eight and forty hours tefote
he sent the letter tendering his • resignation, he
lead not declared in ther Cabinet his readines: to
GO-Operate to the utmost of hii power with the
Government of Lotd Goderich, as it was 'then cOnsii-
[444 and whether he had ever mentioned taliii.LOrd-
ship, or to any other 'Member of that Cabinet, that he
had any, the least, intention to resign?-.--(Hear), "I'alio
ask the Right Honourable Gentleman whether' be liad
the intention of writing that letter at the tinieWe gilt
meeting ?—(Heat, hear,hear). If he had, I will not go
the length' ot laying that he intended to deceiie. but
II will say that his conduct most certainly had the etiet
-of deceiving me; for I could not conceive that any
one who had declared on the 19th that he would give
has support to Lord Goderich could at that moment
lisle meditated sending in his resignation ou the gilt.
lido not say that this is conduct with Which .any,iiroa
hha:a right to he distatisfied—tHears hes 4 :.1 shall
not make any comments on it, nor ans I. called .oil
to do so: 'lt is ; limiter with 'which the Moue les
Willing to do, and is merely. a point of honour .bet Ween
gre Right Hoo.'dentleman and his Hon. Colleague.
But after the bold question which the Itiighttlooonfalge
gentleman has put, I now beg to ask him, whether
between, the Sd December. the time ,at whith the too
.I=were put into his hands explaining.all'thit had
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:, : Lord Non m A NBY-AltliOuih, Sir; I 'or igiVitted ill
tilt i,ctissions which have taken place iitien ihe'subject
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lIIT hetOre the House, I mut tonna thatlitkink we
re at present arrived ai such a point* oflthe case, that
every one trust be persuaded there ii'onlY post !PO who
An explain satisfactorily the causes which produced the
Ossolution of the late Government; aqd, (tido, his own
Aeclatations, I think it is plain that the Alexi OM. Gent.
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• (Mr, Herries.)fs that
his conduct may affei
I meaty c4urs~, ii
innovations fganitL
'to form annisniae,
-ego* debate 0a all rl
`set the Right flOn.'C
be appears to ,me e
any question which
an answer which ma
'question I put does
soy YonoMa.o.l; and
u
fl said that the Ril
'teered a gratuitous
'saltation of persons r
which I never dad
vircumstance I shoo
the place, and I cei
tech a question. W
the Right Hon. Gent
tnade in the other H
'that the Right Han.
periods variid the RI
poiptnentof my Not
tnan of th*Financep
that the itt. Hon.don
lion to it ; secondly, t
the 'ground 'of gan ins;
him to have been p 4
that he (Lord Godei
vinced if the Right"
*t what had Leen do
grounds, and to thei
three sreeks, the. R
and
tor eiplanairon. I a
and certain that I slh
of what I slat Hr
HERNIAS
Tke,..l?Oiale .LOOd'aaj
qiukstiodp with teapet
decided opinion as
liilentber for North
chtpber, when rant
the
49 *e. 'CO"the
late. Gonna nine.nt. S
explanation on that
and f t Ist ac tor,
tbi eipfeirrotfor
is my letter of the
es eoineetetr which,
I had a right tcf_ctra
witiCh oiOurted,;tlin
Member Ctn. North'
completion. The Ria
shire says chit same
in tfil.'recolrecii#d of
them the letter whit
dressed to the tidbit
Goviaidenr, I distii
ant letfer I, askair4l-
- might have in
me. The 'first "assn
the engagement with
tonshire. had been co
been so completed in
siderafions: I. stater
those assnuiptions
by a denial. Vire
engagement was not
considerations had n
.
No. 'N.'7, more,, ris
as that,trqsz,.the epg
considued at oomph
tit* it did.. It is tit
gain had been cot
negative; but wise
open to discussion,.
• It was an_un
that it was no longer
Under these clrcumrl
I did assume; nor
have done otherwise
is given by. the .Nob
LOrd says, that I de
sumption, that Emil
the late Goveromen
justify the Noble
made id.the fatiestt
dela* mytelf from,
G Ofsorl Poeta- irotitil
fafislitir Pitt t*
overturn the dove
would resign, beery
'and '
oli▪
reitredtigthi'Ne
mo•
ire satisfactorily
May coMmand Itti
of It I placeit (a
done in the most f
posal.° I ask the
Member for Mont
M'emher'in the Ht
proceeding ? Let
that letter, and the
stiuction, which ha
bear the interpreta
whore wirh it wa,
the utmost that cal
entertained a wish
great crilrie?. If
littrelenicioas of
patronage, and oil
(lnence. the vice
in his opinion, Mot
interest, he wishes
is that to be char)
to '4 be conse -a ered
position on Nis pa
Noble Lord really
the teittlienifle
stated, in the tiro
conceived to be I
such a letter, a 111

uc.tt is royilidg
mind; such are t
tics to ptocced
drifttebas been s
overcharged, than
shy, pray, is he
restate tip lam
shed uncesestion
that what he as
common under
froth stieh pre
Moßtgokery sh
write my letter
those %41ct Wel
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