Star.
London, England, 1820-06-08 00:00:00

bet Majesty of any of iser milbeillilat Mitts as 4:tolant lilfadtB
matter of the renunciation of the title, he might reinewherdbat
the words bore no.such import ; they ware; that " She should
use some ether namethan thatut Queen of .England"-:-(/filna
Jrcm the OPPonnoit)-1 Middy different from that
which had. been stated and commented aspen—(Hser).'. Was it
Lot the common practice of Stivereigns, when trastenteg to
assume a title incognito, and drop the style of Monarchs ?' Did.
the Emperor Alexander give up his dignity when he assumed he
Germany the appellation of Count? In short, there was or
kgitituate mode of renouncing the Sovereign tide; all thnt
could be meant, and an that was meant, was that there were
some of her riehts which she could not surrender; there wend,
others, from the exercise of which, under the circumstances of
the case,—her absence from this country,—end her separation
from his Niajesty,--it would be proper to forbear. Residing
abroad, ror instance, it would not be expected that she should
, appoint Chatmberlains, Officers, Maids of (Lwow, &c. end keep
a Court at home. 'But, on the other hand, it never wu cones
tomplated to !cave her defenceless. The appointment of her
Law Officers was a proof of the sedulous attention with with'
Ministers locked to the matter, that they might not trench
any of her material interests. • The whole purport of the are
rangemene was to give the power of making every appointment
necessary for a Queen remaining' abroad, and merely circum-
scribing such as -were only required if the Sovereig I resided in
this country. iVith regard to the other condition referred tit,
that the Queen .bould take another name than that of her family
—of that he knew nothing. It might have been an inference
drawn by the Noble Lord to whom the negotiation was in-
trusted, but certainly it never was in the contemplation of Go-
vernment. He said this without attaching the slightest cen-
sure 'to the Noble Lord; he dared to say that he was led fairly
to the conclusion to which he had come on this point, and
had interpreted his conuniedoe in the most proper manner ;
But he called an the House to thieve, that Government was
placed in a site:.don of peculiar delicacy ; he doubted bow they
could eves' fairly extricate themselves. They were asked, how
it could ever enter their heads to make such propositions ; end
how they could expect that they should not be indignantly re-
jected ? He confessed that they had been guilty of one false
step. This led to their embarrassment. Early is these pro-
ceeding', they had been persuaded to receive a communication
under a seal of secrecy, the nature of which obligation pre-
vented him from stating to the House the hand from which it
came, and the precise objects of its contents. But what would
the House say, when he told them that this very paper which he
held in his hand, though precluded by the terms on which it was
given, from using it in the discusskel—dtis paper coming from
one whose connection with the Illustrious Person gave it weight,
what would the House my, when he told them it was nothing
else than a proposition, in which every one oi the propositions
offered by Ministers, and desigrtrtted as so degrading, were
suggested to them as a heals for a compromise, and presented
so long ago as July, 1810--(Letai cries " Star, Awoke,: P')
There was not a propoddon alibi:tined to the Queen, not in the
protocol from the quarter to which be alloded--(llaaei
He would npt say that it came from the Illustrious Person so
nearly interested in this affair, but be could assure the House
that it came from one who ought hot to say, thit when acted
upon by Ministers, it was disgraceful and insulting—(Hear).-
11 any one who heard him knew of this paper, he appealed to
his heart kr their excuse; for it had led them into an undoubted
confidence that when they made. the same proposal, it would be
certainly accepted. He begged distinctly to be understood as
stating that he did not, in the slightest degree, amides. the Min
trious Party Is implicated in, or committed by tidedeammen.--
lier indignation when its terms were offered colter be amid,
therefore, readily account for, but he was utterly at a hme MOW
eeive how it could have failed from any preconceived indigo►
Lion in another quarter—(Hear). He (Mr. Canning) bad be-
. Raved that ahe Le. rued Gendestanhad gone to 81,0meras with a
treaty ready nude, and his astonishment at its failure, and
more at the extraordinary surprise and indignation expressed
by the Learned Gentleman, was not to be described—{Maur).The Right Hon. Gentleman now entered into an examination
of the proposal itself. On the term t-uiring the Queen to re.
main abroad, be avowed that his opinion and advice in 1814
had been to that effect. In the situation of incurable alienation
antrhopeless reconcilement in which the Illustrious Person then
stood with her husband, he did think it better, under the sanc-
tion of the King, as the head of the family, that she should reside
abroad with her own relatives, as she originally proposed; or if
she travelled upon the Continent, that she might enjoy that hap-
piness which her fascinating manners, the grace, life, and orna-
ment of every society, was so Well calculated to secure. To that
opinion he still adhered, and it would be unchanged were the
parties concerned the dearest ties which he had en earth. He
advised it then, because be saw that faction had marked her for
its own—(Hear)—because he saw that there was neither comfort
nor tranquillity for her in this country ; that she would be made
the rallying point of disaffection and political Intrigue—(leutscl
hear frees aU sides). What be thought then he thoughenow. Had
they seen any reason to suppose from what bad just passed, that
she would be made less the instrument of political intrigue, that
she would be less likely to have her own peace and happiness
sacrificed, to promote designs affecting the peace of the country ?
Why should it be supposed that this proposition was unchari-
table towards her Majesty? Could any one doubt for a moment
that a residence abrexid.would be most conducive to her comfort?
As to the other term, that of taking an incognita title, so fat
from its being thought an affront, the authority to which he had
already alluded, nut only distinctly suggested that chrunistavoe,
but even specified the name that should be adopted. How then
could Ministers expect that it should be met With indignation?
The negotiation had unfortunately failed, but he imputed no
blame either to the Learned Gentleman, or to the Noble Lord
engaged in it. He had no doubt it was owing to a fixed deter-
mination taken before they arrived, on advice, which he could
not better characterise than in the words of ;he Learned Gentle-
man, " Not of the greatest wisdom." But, it was inquired,
ought that to have precipitated this inquiry? Undoubtedly not,
if the result bad been communicated to Government alone, or if
the modifications which the Learned Gentleman professed he bad
ready, had been proposed. But the disclosures published, and
especially the making it a subject of general dlikusaion whether
Government would act on their own declaration, left them no
alternative. When that step was taken which they declared would
force them to this course, and When the whole matter was made
a' public topic, the question was decided, and there was no
way to avoid it. Nothing but being forced to proceed would
have caused Government to depart from the system they had so
long and so earnestly pursued. The accession of his Ma-
jesty rendered it impossible to stand still; and, while they
endeavoured to obviate the evil In the best possible way, this
inevitable calamity bad fallen upon them and upon the country.
With respect to the alteration of the Liturgy, he contended
that if done witheut reference to occasion, it would have
been a wanton insult; but adopted when a final eepardtion
azd residence in different countries was understood to be
definitively arranged, he would ask where was the incon-
gruity ? Similar alterations bad been made in former times;
for instance, when the Duke of Cumberland's name, which
stood in the prayer during the reign of George 11. was omitted
on the accession of George 111. in consequence of his altered
relation to the throne. In the ?resent case, the step was net
taken alone, but as a part of the general contemplated arrange-
ment of the whole of this plan. The decision tees made oo the
same day respecting the proposals on the part of the Queen and
the form of the Liturgy. The latter bad therefore been justly.
mentioned as a neutral measure and no degradation • while
it was believed th.:l the propositions would be accepted--the
insertion of the Queen's name, with all her titles, would have
been absurd. In offering those propositions, Ministers bad
conscientiously believed they would be agreed toy and surely if
they had, the best interests of the Crown and .of the country,
and the tranquillity of the Illustrious Persons themselves,
have been most truly consutted. He hoped he bed now cleared
Ministers from the charge against which, h had been said, they
must be prepired to defend themselves; and notithe only pain-
ful part that remained for him was, to explain the grounds of
his vote in the dreadfully important question of this night. He
was willing to admit that in the history of the country there
was no case so analogous as to furnish them with a precedent.
This ought to bespeak the candid consideration of the Howe for
persons obliged to act in a matter of so much difficulty; and be
mound, as he thought, in the spirit of the Constitution, a rule
which °night to guide them—it was, that on such an mower,
the Crown should apply to Parliament for advice and counsel.
The Learned Gentleman disliked this course, and drew the
comparison of it to a Grankt.Jury. He mid that Gaud Jtijrfi
were sworn • but in this respect the limns could not W
form be Made to resesebb that; wed therefore, if it wen *
that the matter should be snlidtted to it rat idt h tellowei AIR
this must be dispensed lids. "that'll deenbi, was, he imipdeloll
clear ;Tor it would be a meet piliareelealc edig to. nosh its 64
recommendation on the Crowns. when it threw *elf apes tierPerhanient for counsel. The Lairied Goodwin' bad Anther
"Mt Oweempient out titbit to have coati atesel with