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the Hoe‘rable dintlemen bad alluded, and which
vele andnakedly oflreat importance. 'Before the
period of the next Session arrived the House would bed
rentpos,...ion of all the Nformation ss hick could be
derived from the documentary evidence • which would
be la before it, and would, by -that-means, be enabled
to prosectite its inquiries with greater effect, and with
less chance of taking a partial or limited view of
the subject. He trusted that no individual could impute
rnhim, in opposing the present motion, that'he was not
desirous of giving Parliament every means of inquiry
which this great question required. The question be-
tween the Honourable Gentleman and himself, there-
fore, was not whether the subject should or should not
be discussed and inquired into? but whether it would
not be more convenient to wait for the appointment
of a Committee until some important papers were
laid before the House ? As it must be evident to
• every one that the production of those papers was
absolutely necessary before the question conld be
considered or discussed with effect, he thought the
Honourable Gentleman from whom the present
motion bad proceeded could not do otherwise than
ocquiesce in the views of. Government. The weight
and importance • of the question could not be de-
nied; but, in proportion to the weight of the question,
• in the same proportion was the Hon. Member bound to
wait until that motile of inquiry could be Adopted, which
most in every sense of the word be considered most sa-
tisfactory to the country, and most likely to lead to a
fair and impartial conclusion .of the question. • When he
looked back to the former times at which this subject
had' been discussed, he saw nothing to warrant the sup-
• position that it was necessary to commence any inquiry
upon this subject now. The two last periods at whtch
• the Charter of the East ItidiaCompany had been renewed
were in the years 1794 and 1814. but no discussion upon
. the policy or impolicy of granting those tenewals took
place until the yeats 1793 and 1813.
A Right Honourable Gentleman (we believe Mr. Ilusiteetw)
here observed, that there.was an inquiry as to the renewal of the
Charter so early as the year 1809.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in
reply, said he believed that his Right Hon. Friend would
find that the subject which led to the question of why they
the East India Charter should or sh, old not be renewed
did not commence until the years previous to those in
which it' had actually been renewed. But whether
those discussions took place only in the year preceding,
or in two or three previous, was now of no importance a
it would have little influence upon the present question,
' for we were now, in the year 4829, discussing what
k would be necessary or politic to do in the year
1834.• It was very true that Parliament must give a
notice upon the subject to the East India Company, but
• that' would not be necessary until the year 1831. If the
House commenced the discussion, therefore, in 1830 he
• thought it would have ample time to decide the prelia
• sninaly point of whether in 1831 That notice should or
IthOuld not be given—it being remembered that after
the notiee.had been given another lapse of three years •
would take place, in which Government would have
amply sufficient timeto decide what the ultimate course
' which it should think expedient to adopt should be.
He. should, therefore, oppose the motion of the Hoe.
Member, although in doing so he was far from disuse
. garding,the weight of the argument which he had
, brought forward. It must be Understood also, that be
meant nothing disrespectful or disobliging to the Hon.
Crentleman. He thought that his observations were of
. great weight, and highly.desetving oldie attention of
toe House, conveying, as they did, a great deal of in-
, I,ormation arid much useful detail. But, independently
. of this, they had been submitted to the House with a
degree of temper which he could almost hold up as a
model to be observed in all discussions upon such ques-
tions as the present, which, -from the immensity of
its
,importance, was well calculated to excite the
warmest feelings. of those who took a decided view of it.
• koe himself he (the Chancellor of the &cheque!) could
, not, at the. present moment, pledge himself to any opi-
nion uticin the question thus prematurely advanced.
Whatever opinion be might.afterwards entertain on the
subject would not be formed until after he should have
had before him all the evidence which either party could
... produce in favour and support of their separate views
and interests upon the subject. Until he had had the
advantage of seeing that evidence. he could not pledge
• himself to any opinion whatever ; and it was upon that
. ground that he was now induced to resist the motion of
, the Honour aisle Member. He thought that that motion,
oeght not to be pressed upon the House until it would
be able to deal with the subject in a more extended and'
satisfactory manner—Upon the' question being put,
. Mr. HUSKISSON rose. He agreed with his Right
7. Hoe., Friend MAI this was a question not only of ins-
- purtanee, but f.ne involving interests of the highest and
t.
most serious nature to the whole kingdom, more par-
' tiehlarly to the manufacturing part of the Community:
• It Was; moreover, a question of great diflicurty,and one
upon which the decision of Parliament. whatever it
• might be; should not be hastily given ; far it was a
rotation iii ahidi the happiness and tranquillity of
rittiVoics O 1 subjeCts, who now looked up to us for, pro-
. tection, depenued. Ail these considerations required
that the House should go into the discussion under
a flint Conviction of the awful responsibility which
was devolved upon it ; tor that responsibility could
not • be less that; awful in which the interests of
many thousands was concerned. He felt thankful to
his Might Hon. Friend tor the assurance which he had
-; gifts' that itsis inquiry should be fully gone trio at
the plarinencetnen of die next Session—(Heat) He was
ii4a also timt die deliberation. of. the House
were to be guided and assisted by the production of the
tf ocumentary evidence which his Right Hon. Flietid
bad alluded to; but at the same time lie' could not
ace that there was any inconsistency which could have
prevented Vie those, if it should so think tit. to go
ii .to the hiqiiity stow—(Hear). He knew that the
time for a discussion upon the question was yet very
earl; ; but if the House were to appoint a Co.i.mittee
this advantage would arise—the Members who should be
selected to compose the Committee would, in consider-
ation of the serious and important duty which had been
imposed upon them, direct their whole study and atten-
tion to tboitesOurces from which the most satisfactory
evidence could be obtained, and would have the benefit
if the recess tor the better discharge of the important,
duty which the House would devolve upon them. The
question wasone of the greatest imporfance, not only to
tne tranquillity of a large portion of the people of this
country, but also to immense numbers in our East India
, possession's. It was therefore a question which required
all the attention and consideration of the House, since it
• was not only. question affecting thecivil policy of a great
Ensafitt abroad, but also one which affected the happi-
ness and well being of many at home. He thought,
therefiqe, if the House were io begin an inquiry even at
this early period (for he admitted that four years must
elapse before any decision of the House could Imo..
sibly affect the present government an India), lie
Lk/tight that if even now an inkuiry were insti-
tuted, it would be impossible to conclude it in the'
next Senile. It was; in his opinion, highly essential
aid highly necessary that an inquiry, the most tsten•

siee and thei most-important that had ever been dis•
cussed in that House, •sbould receive allthe itteatiou
that coidd possibly be bestowed Upon it: He thought there
would be no dissatisfaction on. the part of the country
if a Committee were appointed, and were to sit only for
a month in the course of that time, declaring that they
had commenced an inquiry upon the subject; that they
had called for documentary evidence, which could only
be obtained from a distance; and that they were insti-

tuting other measures for the purpose of obtaining in-
formation upon the subject. There were, in fact, many
advantages which would necessarily grow out of an
immediate appointment of a Committee: it. would be
advantageous for those who Were generally interested
in the qoestion to know that the investigation wal going
on, and it must be satisfactory to every one to know
that an inquiry had commenced upon a subject in which
most important interests in this country. and the hap-
piness and well-being of thousands in India, were in-
volved. When it was known that the inquiry hAd com-

menced, persons who were interested, and who pos-
sessed individual knowledge with respect to the affairs
of the East,. would exert themselves to supply all the in-
formation in their power, and a very considerable ad-
vantage would by that means be gained. He was not,
desirous, however, under all the circumstances, that the
question should be urged in the present Session. The
Right Hon. Gentleman had assured the House that it
should be brought forward early next Session, and he
should certainly be satisfied• if the discussion upon the
question commenced at that period.He should be satisfied
tf an inquiry such at this was brought forward, as all
such inquiries should be by those who were immediately
connected with the Government of the country. He
should be ,better pleased to see it brought forward under
the responsibility, and with the sanction and support,
of the Ministers of the Crown.. He should be better
pleased to see the question referred to a Committee
which they should recommend, than he could be
by any inquiry brought forward under the auspices
of a private individual, however respectable or in-
telligent he might be, or however valuable the in-
formation he might possess on the subject. Abstaining
therefore, from entering into discussion upon the ques-
tion, and concurring in many of the observations and
opinions of the Honourable Member for Bridgenorth,,
he had only to say that he should wait with anxiety
until the subject were brought forward by those who
composed his Majesty's Government. Where so many-
interests•were involved, the question was naturally one
of great difficulty. and he did not pretend to say that
there must not be some great change in the present
system. Looking at the country itself, and at the.
habits and feelings or those who had settled possessions
it that vast empire, he could not deny that the prin-
ciple of colonization might not bewell applied. with
respect to it, or that it would not be well to deal with
it as with a country which we occupied for the first
time. These, however, were questions which must ne-
cessarily go to the Committee—questions which must
be maturely weighed and considered before they were
determined upon. For his own part, as far as his own
personal observation and inquiries had gone, be did
not see the possibility of reconciling, in such a man-
ner as he could wish, the commercial interests of this
'country and these of the Company of Merchants who
exercised the power of Government over the af-
fairs of India. He. thought that the commercial
interests of this country would have reason to com-
plain while that sovereignty existed ; for it
.was
the means of depriving.them of any participation in
the benefits which must necessarily ensue from. a free
trade in the East. How the commercial interests,
however. were to be relieved from these difficulties,
would be a question not very easily to be decided ;
.but that it was absolutely necessary that they should
be relieved he was firmly convinced, for he beliesed
that the removal of these difficulties would not only
advance the commercial interests of this country, but
would also contribute to the happiness and welfare of
India. One of the great questions which the Com-
mittee would have to consider and determine would be,
whether it would not be better for the happiness and
the comforts of the people of India, and for the a:si-
vancement of civilization and diffusion of wealth among
them, if a separation were made beta een the sovereignty
and the commerce of that great territory ? They would
also have to consider whether such a separation wi
not be hitter for the general interests of the people.nf
England? whether it would not benefit the consumfr.
of East Indial—prOduce equally with those who gave
•the supply. Under the present system of things tilts
who competed with the Sovereigns of the East ditl#6pB
such disadvantageous terms that they were necessalrily
subjected to great losses, and that loss, in whatevet ship
it might appear, he felt-ultimately fell upon the people
of this country. It was upon this ground that he (Mr.
liuskissbn) Wished to rescue the commercial intereS6
from such a monopoly; and be was therefore •4e-
sirous that this extensive inquiry should be proceeoed
in immediately, or as speedily s# possible. He wished
it to • be distinctly understood that he :did not thiht
the remedy, if it were possible to find one, could
come from the East
_lndia Company. He did 'not
think that the Dire:tors of that Corroia ry, for whomOte
telt every respect, and who, he believed, devoted their
best care and attention to tire administration of .t.,bir
,ffairs in tbe East, be did not think that any remedy
could be afforded by them. The evil, in his opinion,
was in the monopoly itself. There was one point urion
winch be could not agree with his Right Hon: Friend,
who had said that it was useless to make any inquiry
now, and that it would be almost premature to mike
any in the next Session.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—No, no; jou
mistali me.
Mr. HUSKISSON did not wish to misrepresent any
thing tlat had fallen from his' Right Hon. Friend. He
had certainly said that an inquiry should be tirade in the
course of the next Session; but he had also said that it
was unnecessary, because on two former occasions the
discussions upon the subject had only preceded the actual
grant of a renewal of the charter by one year. Now, be
(Mr. H.) certainly thought that an inquiry, instituted
at the earliest possible period, and prosecuted to the
ultimate decision of the House, would be more satis-
factory to the country smith the Court of Directors them-
selves than if a postponement were allowed to cake place,
for it must obviously be matter of gre it interest alike to
the people of England generally, and to the Members.
of the East India Company, to be made acquainted at as
early a period as possible of any changes which might
be proposed to be made. He wished to make a single
lob:creation in reference to a question. which had been
alluded to by an Hon. Member a few night. since—thak
of allowing a free intercourse with China. That was a•
subject which ought to be considered by a Committee;
bar, at the same time, it was necessary that the House'
should coine.to a speedy decision upon the POint, for„'
if much more time were allowed to elapse. other
countries would creep in, and would deprive us of the
trade which we at present carried on with that country.
He did not doubt that the • advantages of free tick
would ultimately be allowed, but they would, perhaps,
come too late ; other parties would, very probably, balm

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cceartd,alse trade,. because we had .delayed too long tb
adopt an abiolittely necessary course. Lnok at the New
World, the whole or.Snuth America, at present. it was
title, involved in troubles and adversities ; but this could

not continue for ever, avid whin they ceased, the inter-

coarse' of the South American States with the East

would most naturally be very considerable. The
relative positions of the countries afforded facilities
which it was impossible to contend against; and in
a tew years, unless sonic decisive step were taken,
the whole of the trade with the Archipelago of
India and the Eastern seas would be monopolised
by South America. Sut independently of that country,
the intercourse would be seized on by other States.
America had already got possession of a gteat deal, and
other countries ware ready to follow her example; so
that a lapse of four or five years would prove in the
highest degree prejudicial to the future .stat;on and
political influence which England would maintain in the
East. The present question, therefore, was one of the
utmost importance, and one which ought to be taken
up at the earliest period of the next Session. He trusted
that the House would then proceed to determine

upon the points winch had this night been alluded
to, and that it would adopt some measure for the
.eliet of the commercial interests of this country be-
fore it consented to the renewal of the charter' ',to

the East India Company. By taking the subject into
consideration at an early period, it would show he
people of England that its representatives were not
unmindful of their interests; it would' satisfy them
that tioierhment did not wish to delve off the discus
skin until the last minute in order to avoid a thorough
irivestigation 'of the sobject. They would see that ihEir
views and wishes were cohsidered, and would' come
forward eagerly to support an' measure that Govern-
mega might choose to adopt, so that by that mean, a
new and improved system cold be prepared before the.
expiration of one which was admitted to be detective.
•When the charter of 1794 Was granted it was with
great difficutly that a provision could be obtained for
a free tradvtor 3 000 tons of shipping. The East India
Company was induced to grant a trade to that quantity
of shipping only because it was compelled to do so by
law; but the terms upon which it was granted were to
pay 51. for every 1011 outward bound, and 15i. for every'
ton homeward bound, and this was considered at the
time as a very colisiderable advantage towards an exten-
sion of the free trade with India. The timiseas now fast
approaching when the House would have the indefinite
poWer of throwing the trade open altogether; without
any restriction wh stew r, and he sincerely trusted that it
would not fail to take advantage of the opportunity.—
Under all the circumstances which had appeared. he
thought it was not being over sanguine to presume that,
if the House proceeded as much farther in 1834 as it had'
on the two preceding occasions, it would be increasing
the general bencfits of the country, and would add to.
the wealth and prosperity of both parties engaged in
this commerce. He (Mr. H.) felt these considerations
so strongly, that he, for one, trusted the points of greater
difficulty would not stand in the way of ameasure. which
would clearly be so beneficial to thisviountry, and which
would tend so much to the extension of civilization in
India. Having the assurance of his Right Hon. Friend
that a Committee should be appointed early in the next
Session, he should not occupy the time 'of the House by
any further observations upon this subject. He was
ant sorry that the present discussion tad taken place,
.because he thought it would be productive of some
good. He entertained the same opinion still of the im-
portance of the Hon. Member's present moion, but since
the assurance of his Right Him. Friend, he would not
recommend him to res, it now.
Mr. HUME said lie thought the inquiry should not
be delayed. All the reasoning of the Right Hon. Gelb.
tleman who spoke' last, and t the Chancellor of the
'Exchequer, went to prove the necessity of inquire at
present. • It did not inv:lse the existence of the Com.
patsy. The only object was the obtaining of some,
partial arrangement more adsamageous than . e
present. Commerce amt. minulactutes ...ere now in
a state of stagnation. What were the opinions of
the best informed commerCial 'Men on the subject?
They were unaiiiminisly of 'opinion that the,. present
system was most injurious,.. and. that • the Company
would not lose by a change.; • They should, theicae,
without delay inquire how far these advantages *cir
attainable consistently with ye ted interests. Experience
proved that the evidence taken at .the lastienewal of the
Charter was completely fallacious. Losing a year was
losing a great public.advaritige. The period of the
Sessitm was no objection. What inconvenience could
there be in prOhinging the Session for a month or two?
It 'was not correct io say that uporr former occasions of
the renewal or the Charterinquiry 'commenced only
the year before. In a farmer case, a Select Commit-
tee.was appointed awe pie.viously, and. reported
upon a variety et important poirits, . commercial as
well as political. The Company, or the servants of
the Company, were.not the, best source from which to
receive doctitheritiry evidence, for it was well known
that sione.iif the best iatormed men differed in opinion.
ffe.could slot allow that a Committee appointed under
the sanction of Government was the be.t. Their object
was to arrive arthe truth, • and it was well known that
Coln:miter's (eight be so constituted, and the case so
sated to them, that like lawyers you might get from
them any opiirion you pleased. From his own expe-
rience he knew that • the Company were, many of
them, disposed to forward the internal interests of
India, and to secure and promote the welfare of
the 'population. It • they brought their cotton from
India, it would, before long, add 200,000 tons to
their shipping. -He might make the same observation
with regard to tobacco, which was a native of India, and
only transplanted 'to America. Cotton, till 1803, was
3111.1010 ted from the Mahratta States, and was not the
growth of the Company's tirtitories. Of the 179 million
•Ins. of cotton used in this country, 151,000,000 lbs. leas.
*ought from America. Brazil sent 7,000,000
Egypt sent more than half that sent from Inclia,and this
created in Egypt only within seven years.. India only
sent-12,000,000 lbs. out of the whole. By encouraging
settlers' they Might possess a powerful engine
to turn against America, Every pound' of additional pro-
duce would he fortheadvantage of the Company. It was
nonsense to talk of colonizing India; •or to apprehend
any risk on that account, for India was already thickly
Inhabited. When he: hard complaints Of the amount of,
their pOptilation, he thought 'it extraordinary that. they.
should shut them out trout -the
18,000 tiihrof ihipPing were employed in bringing the
cottOn'Trom Anikrica here. The whole of this might
be added tp the British shipping interest if they en.
courage& the growth •of cotton in India. • (*the
83,000.0000"°pounds of tobacco used here, 32 000;0*
*pdt!nd,s came from the United States. Tobacco might.
be graien in India to an extent- calculated to give
extensive, employment to their shipping. For these
-reasons he thought it most important to institute an in.
quiry es soon as possiblit ...India was too tong viewed
AS a rival Colony. lii:could proviftoinupdeniable au-
thotity that exports to India-were limited solely by the
amount of imports. If the Company bad not the mono-

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, IWO/ had the satbotityof respectable merchants for
sating, that they would import tea from China, •ad sei,
'it t.ere event at the price they paid for it. This might ap-
pear strange.but such was the fact ; and he woold be able
to prove it before one week elapsed if a Committee were
granted. Could these be a stronger reason for removin,z
the fetters which now oppressed the British merchant?
Was it possible to continue a system injurious to the
British merchant, and not in the least beneficial'us the
Company ? He wished the House to begin now, for he
had sufficient proofs to show that delay would be
ruinous. The premise of the day once passed, and it
would be altogether forgotten. The present MoMent was
almost the best, and if a Committee were appointed nett
Monday, he would give theta work for a month—and
what more did they want? It was always said,
Only give us time, and we will do a great deal ; but
who knew that the pretent Ministry would last to the
nett year ? 'He did not care about majorities, and he
had rather carry a ahnsure against the Mipistet than
otherwise, because he was sure of obtaining a part of
what he wished. He thought the House-ought to, pau•e
before they refused a Committee, because more good
WAS done by examination than by all the documentary
evidence which might be laid before thr House, of which

not one ont of twenty read the one•half. He ui%hed 10

have the evidence taken now, for the., it could he sent

to India, and by'the nest S;;s%ion they would be able to
comet° some tight conclusion on so important a subject.
VESEY FITZGERALD said the Hon. Gentle-
man; with peculiar modesty, appeweJ to think that all
who differed from him dperved teprnbatiot.

Chancellor of the Exchequer had promised to originate
an ir.quiry next Session of Parlh.mef‘r, and his !tight
Honour able t Friend (M usirissot.) hid agreed that
the inquiry cotihi Vest be enteied into neiernr. He
denied the Honourable Gentleman's assertion, that Go-
vernment told •the suffering- people that they could
not grant relief. If the Honourable Gentleman said
a Committee appointrd by that bi e of the Ht•use would

have pronounced oprni• ns, was there no danger that a
Committee appointed by the other'side rirglit have their
preconceived opinions? His Right Honouranle Friend
had distinctly given a pledge to introduc • the subject
next Session, and in •the mean time to prepare irocu-
mentary evidence; and such a pledge ongh. not to have
been described as it had been by the Hon. Gentleman.
Mr. ROBINSON sax ffe was bound to coufiie in the
solemn pledge given by the Chancellor of tr'e Exche-
quer, that the subject would b- solemnly entered into
next Session of Parliament, and he thought the country
wottkl be sitisfied with that pledge
Mr. W. WYNN thought thin useful preparation
might be made, for the inquiry by the appointment of
the Committee. this Session ; bu: he was confident it
was most desirable that the inquiry should originate
with Government. His Right Hon. Friend, whom the
country so much deplored (.Ir. Calming), united with
him. in regretting that the monopoly of the trade to
Chsha should haste bee-Li-granted for so long a time;
that British merchants should :be deprived of a trade
enjoyed by Americans, and British manufacturers depen-
dent on Americans for the export of their produce.
Mr. BARING thought the sooner the inquiry could
be entered into the better; but as we were within a tort-
night or three weeks of the terminati. n of the S:ssion,
he thought the only object a Committee cool& now ef-
fect would be to make preparation for the neat Session.
He thought more than one Committee would be neces-
sary. There should be aCommittee to ift,certain line
exact hnancial position Of the East India Company.
Next 'would come the commercial qiiestun; and,
what was the greatest questitm of the whole, that 4
admitting the tree intercourse and settlernef:t. in India.
He thought three different Committees should be :et to
work at once, for he had no doubt '.ire C. mm tree might
sit lour or five years collecting evlde'llce on these sub.
jects, and he thought it wi.tild he satfemely consen.ent
that Parliament afoul] -meet early for the purpo•e; par-
ticularly as the Charter of the *Bank expired in 1833.
Hi thought the speech of his Hon: Fe tend, the Men.ber
tor Mciiithite. (Mr.. Humo might lead 'some t; 'sup-
pose that opening .tho wade to. a country ot.: so .many
mi..liikni. .would At once pr fdrice• treat effect on
the it ade of England. He was co,.fider.t .it %% ould
hecori:e. beneli I h it should
..4.1.1. ;`but
the trade to Chink was at present open to alt"the "% Odd
but English merchants, and ill we could ,erect' Was a
participation. He thought. it would not. he. theltast
disadvantageous to the East India Company to pe:rn:t
a trade to China before the expiration of their chatter.
Ile was confident their Government to India would Lear
comparison witfi that of any colony. under the Crowr.
Sir CHARLES FORBES agreed: with all whoHniaklitt. that
thr.question of.trade with India was the least importatattleat the
happiness of the people of India should be the great concrii ; and
that it would be mond that. they "should not be governed by per-
sons bearing the two-fold character of sovereigns apd merchants;
characters which he was confident could never be united with ad.
'wattage to the people goOrned. At the same ' he th.dfillt the
East .laidia Governmem preferable to Oa of his Majesty a it. nudes.
Ile would strungly'and seriously recommend to some ut.i,ut ?vu, g
senators to make a tour to India, with a view to make themselves
acquainted with the government a that country. He was confident
that when the trade to China should be opened, great tias.rpoint-
ment would he the result. There would be a rusfl to Canton,
where the trade. like all the trade of China, was. canned on by
monopoly: 'At Canton the monopoly was in the hinds .1: twelve
Hong merchants, who paid highly for the privilege, tani had the
*hole in their hands. A persuu took an assorted caw; to vie
Yellow River, in China, but the monopoly was so strict he could
make nd sales, and could only get provisions by athalib. flay wh:cia
he had to pay in dollais. •The Hon. Member sat down by assuring
the House be conceived the trade with India to.be but in its in-
fancy, and In order that that trade should be carried on With ad-
vantage in this country, his Majesti's Ministers must set about an
Immediate reduction of the dunes on East Italia produce and mans-
facture, especially oa sugar add Was •
Mr. ASTELL rose amid loud cries of question. The Hm.
Gentleman said that nothing. would give either him er the East
India Company•greater satisfaction, than a thurotilh inv,srleatiou
as regarded their trade and think &ion With England(flear).
• Mr. WARBURT9N eotuphitted that the East-India Com-
pany should prevent persona travelling fors.rcieinific purposes in
India and quoted Baron Humboldt non Inatance of sech restrktion.
Lord ASHLEY denied that there viols auy lac; is the state-
ments made regarding the inhibiting' of travellerstiandia. To
his two knowledge, not only. Wave. dint4beelo gibed to-travel
throughout India,.but the Company had ,furniitheal money a. va-
rious times, in °rife; that timid Sea4b 'mlaffitin ithweitted.
Mr. BROUGHAM sorged.ibe necessitraft •a*lrext• and int-
ponant alteratlog taking place as gejartied he trade. of. the East
India Company." The question Wihna'gi'litl with subjects of
considerable difscultf as regardedsammeisolyi itielf4nlitieal feeling.
and commercial intercourse,; . Niche hoped dast thepeat question
with India would be so adjUited'istio give satisfaction to an. He
was satistied that an entire and•torit relazatinstalf the HonoUralde
East India Company's monopoly was deniable; saint bow tar that
could be accomplished, with justice to tile' policy 'and' itarest of
theiCompany, was the principal question?' Foi'ldi intiti•part he
must say, that he would put like to see the Compote cease to be
traders, and retain their political influence. He was,not, however,
fair pressing the qiiestioh at present, and he wools/in-4e his Hon.
Friend to that elect. . . . .
Mr. W. WHITIHOR P., in reply, said he was induceJ to eonfor
in that which seemed to be the popular view of Haim Members.
to allow the +intim to be brought fur-wird tinder the
El
• of his Majesty's Ministers next Session of Parliament.—
not proceed with his motion, but be wished to impress
ili liellsltemben the necessity of being prepared nest &salon.
Thirpression WAS then put, and negatived without a division.
:Lied F. I. GOWER brought in four Bills relating to regula.
dons lii 'lreland. - ...., •
'T .. virsisan theaovitailorrs. • ,
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Lord LOWTHER moved for leave to bring in a Bill to amend
an Act passed in the 7th year of his Majesty, for making improve-
meats in the Strand and Charing-cross. The Noble Lord stateil