Star.
London, England, 1810-11-30 00:00:00

/113 MAJESTY.

Mr. Secretary RYDER observed, that the House
had again re-assembled under the same unhappy cir-
cumstances to which his Right Hon. Friend near him
had called their attention at thtir. last meeting ; the
lamented continuance of his Majesty's illness having
made it impossible to
,take any measure either for
opening the Session in the usual manner, or for pro-
Togging the Parliament to any further period that
might be deemed advisable. In this dilemma his
Kijesty's Ministers had thought it their duty to call
the Physicians before the Board of Privy Council,
with the view of obtaining from tlic-m a statement of
their opinions. A copy of that statement he held in
Ilk hand, and having no means of conveying to the
house any information equally authentic and accu-
rate, he begged leave to lay it on the table, in order
that it might be read by the Clerk.
Mr. RYDER was about to lay this document on
the table, when _ _ _

Mr. TIE RNEY suggested the propriety of making
such a proceeding the subject of a question.
The SPEAKER allcwel that if any Honourable
Member formally objected to the delivering i i of such
a paper, it could not be so delivered in without a
question; otherwise
.the usage of the House sanc-
tioned the receipt of it without a question.
. Mr. 'I'IERNEY did not object to the reception of
the paper, but to the form of its reception. The
House were not accustomed without a question to
receive any papers, except such as had been ordered
on motion, or such as .were presented to them by or-
der of his Majesty. The present paper fell under
neither of these descriptions/ and therefore, however
important in itself, he conceived that the House would
best consult their dignity by putting the receipt of the
paper to a question.
The SPEAKER admitted that the observations of
the Honourable
.Gentleman were perfectly correct.
He had been disposed to admit the present paper
w-ithout a question, because in reading the Journals
of 1788, he could find no objection made to a similar
proceeding.
• The motion, " That this paper be now. delivered
in," was then put, and agreed to amino conirthkeente ;
as . was also a subsequent motion, " That it be now
read." It was then read by the Clerk as follows :

EXAMINATION OF THE PHYSICIANS.
Council Charnher, Whitehall, Nov. es, 1310.
DOCTOR MNRY REYNOLDS
CALLED IN AND Mont:, AND

Q- You are desired to acquaint this Board, whe-
ther the state of his Majesty's health is such as to
tender him incapable of coming in person to his Par-
liament, or of attending to any kind of public busi-
ness ? A. His Majesty is certainly incapable at pre-
sent of attending his Parliament or transacting public
business.

Q. What are the hopes you entertain of his Ma-
hsty's recovery ? A. I have very confident hopes of
is Majesty's ultimate recovery.
Q. Do you found the opinion, given in your, an-
swer to the previous question, upon the particular
symptoms of his Majesty's disorder, or upon general
experience in other cases of the same nature, o; upon
both ? A. Upon both.
Q. Whether, in that particular species of the dis-
order his Majesty has fallen into, it has been found
from experience that the greater number of persons
so affected have been cured ? A. Undoubtedly.

Q. Can you form any judgment, or probable con-
jecture, of the duration of his Majesty's illness ? A.
Nos I cannot form any decisive opinion upon this
subject ; it varies in different persons, and the time
has varied in his Majesty's former indispositions.
Q. Whether, as tar as experience enable:: you to
judge of his Majesty's disorder, you think it more
F.r.4bable that his. Majesty will or will not recover, so
render him capable of attending to public busi-
uess ? .A. I think it Mach mote probable that his
MAjesty will recover. My expectation* at present are
vs:), confident of his Majesty's recovery. I speak
this, however, with reference to the uncertainty that
always attends medical predictions. With thisrefer-
ence, I should say, from what I see in his Majesty,
that I have no doubt of it..

Q. What degree of experience. have you had,
yourself, in this particular species of disorder ? A,.
In above forty years, practice as a physician, I have
seen may instances or it.
Q. Whether any amendment has aYeady taken
place in the course of his Majesty's disorder, and
whether the appearance of snch amendment continnes
at present ? A. His Majesty is certainly better ; and
I am not sure that he was not full as well, if not bet-
ter, yesterday, and continues so this morning. than
ham been since I had the honour to attend his Ma-
est,. irr illness.
Sir HENRY HALFORD, Bart. called in and 'worn, and
examined.

Q. You are desired to acquaint.this Board whether
the gate of his Majesty's health is'such as to tinder
him incapable of coming in person to his Parliament,
of attending.to any kind of public business ? A.
I thinkit is such as to preient his tonging to Parlia-
ment, or attending to public business.
Q. What are the hopes. you entertain of his Ma-
jesty's recovery ? A. I think it is in the highest de-
gree,probable, that his Majesty will recover.
Q. Do you.found the opinion given in your an-
swer- to the previous question upon the particular
symptoms of his Majesty's disorder, or upon general
ezpenence in other cases of the same nature, or upon.
,both ? t,. Upon both.
Q. Whether in that partieplar species of the dis-
mder his M..l.!sty has fallen into, it har been found
from expetience that the greater number of, persons,-
so affected, hiae been cured ?- A. I believe so.,

Q. Can you form any judgment, or probable cm.
jecturel of the duration of his Majesty's
I caurnt Corm a satisfactory conjecture. • •
Q. Whether so far as "experience 'enables you to •
jr.dge.ot his Majesty's disorder, you. dbilik, it. more
1,44,10)1e, that irs Majesty will, or will notoecoter, .
s., as i 6•• render hip
.capt.l4o- of- attcuding to public
tinniness A. Muth more
win recover

Q. What degree of experience have #4,4 roar-
selr in this particular specs of disoriel an
the course of 19 years; utocidniunber of-casei;sniist
have fallen under my abgnizance. •
Q. .Whether any apendment has already Wien
place in the course *Ms Majesty's disorder, lad
whether the appeal-4.30W such amendment continues
at present ? A. A very :considerable amendment
has taken place in his Majesty's symptoms : in the
course of the last twenty-four hours his. Majesty's
mental health has unproved ; but in the same space
his Majesty has been more indisposed bodily ; but I
have just reason to believe that I shall find that indis-
position much mitigated on my return this evening.

DOCTOR WILLIAM HEBERDEN.
CALLED IN •AND SWORN, AND EXAMINED.

Q. Yon are desired to acquaint this Board, whe-
ther the state of his Majesty's health is such 'as to
render him incapable of coining in person to his Par-
liament, or of attending to any kind of public busi-
ness ? A. I consider the state of his Majesty's
health to be such as to render him incapable of com-
ing in person to his Parliament, or attending to pub-
lic business.

Q. What are the hopes you entertain of his Ma-
jesty's recovery ? A. The greatest expectation of
his Majesty's recovery.
Q. Do you found the opinion given in your an-
swer to the previous question upon the particular
symptoms of his Majesty's disorder, or upon general
experience in other cases of the same nature, or upon
both ? A. I found my opinion upon the improve-
ment that has already taken place in his indispo-
sition and the present integrity of his faculties, and
the analogy this disorder bears to his former illness. •
Q. Whether in that particular species of the dis-
order his Majesty has fallen into, it has been found
from experience, thin the greater number of persons
so affected have been cured ? A. I firmly believe
that it does appear that the greater number of persons
have been cured ' • but my own experience has not
been great in that disorder.
Q. Can you form any judgment, or probable con-
jecture of the duration of his Majesty's illness ? A. I
can form no judgment of the precise duration.—ln
general I should judge that the duration cannot belogn.
Q. • Whether so far as experience enables you to
judge of his Majesty's disorder, you think it more
probable that his Majesty will, or will not recover so
AS to render him capable of attending to public bu-
siness ? A. I feel in my own mind no doubt that
his Majesty will recover, and be capable of attending
to public business.
_ _

Q. What degree of experience have you had your-
self in this particular species of disorder ? A. Very
little experience.
Q.. Whether any amendment has already taken
place in the course of his Majesty's disorder, and
whether the appearance of such amendment continues
at present ? A. Considerable amendment has taken
place in his Majesty's disorder, and the amendment
still continues.
DOCTOR ROBERT DARLING WILLIS,
CALLED IN AND SWORN, AND EXAMINED'

Q. You are desired to acquaint this Board, whe-
ther the state of his Majesty's health is such as to ren-
der him incapable of coming in person to his Parlia-
ment, or of attending to any kind of public business ?
A. BS Majesty is incapable at present of coming to
Parliament, or attending to any public business.
Q. What are the hopes you entertain anis bit-
jesty's recovery ? A. I entertain very confident hopes
of his Majesty's recovery.
Q. Do you found the opinion given in your an-
swer to the previous question upon the particular
symptoms of his Majesty's disorder, or upon general
experience in other-cases of the same nature, or upon
both ? A. Upon both.
Q. Whether in that particular species of the dis-
order his Majesty has fallen into, it has been found
from experience, that the greater number of persons
so affected have been cured'? A. I belibve the greater
number are cured.

Q. Can you-form any judgment or probable con-
jecture of the duration of his Majesty's illness ? A.
I cannot..

Q. Whether so far as experience enables you to
judge of his idajesty's disorder, you Wink it more
proilble that his Majesty will or will not recover, so
as to render him capable of attending to public busi-
ness ? A, I think it more probable that his Majesty
will be capable of attending. to public business.
Q. What degree of experience have you had your-
self in this particular species of disorder ? A. From
my earliest infancy I had opportunities of observing
complaints of this nature, as long as I remained Wi-
der my father's roof. During the last two and twenty
years Fhave seen a great variety of cases of this na-
ture in private practice.
Q. Whether any amendment has already taken
place in the .course of his Majesty's disorder, and
whether the appearance of such amendment continues
at present ? A. A very considerable amendment had
already taken place in his Majesty's disorder, which
continued when I left Windsor this morning.

COUNCIL CUANDUIDI WIDETZHALL, NOV. 29.
DOCTOR MATTIIIIW IDAILIAE,
CALLED IN, AND SWONN/ AND EXAMINILD.
. Q. You are deiired to acquaint this Board, whe-
ther the state ofhis-Majestes health is such as to ren-
slor him incapable of comingin person to his Parlia-
ment, or of attendity, to any kind of public business ?
—A. I think his.ttajesty is at present incapable of
coming.to Parliament', or of attending to any public
business.
_
_ _

Q. What are the hopes you entertain of his Majes.
ty's recovery..? A. I think. it highly probable that
his Majesty will recover.
Q. Do you found the opinion ;given in your an-
swer to the .previous quesynn upon thw particular
'symptoms of hisirlajestrsdisorder,,or. 'upon geueral
experience in other. ca-ses 9f the,sanii nature, or upon
both ? A, I found the opiniep,.Which I.delivered as
an answer to ,the second question, upon the consid&-
ation of the symptoms of his Majesty, upon perceiving
no failure in the faculties. of his Alajeay, upon the
• soundness of his Majestrs constitution sad upon the
resemblance which hit present illness bas to what I
have • heard, of his fOrmer apnea of the same. chi,
racter,. •
Q. 'Whether in that particulas species of the, dis-
order. his Majesty., has fallen tato, it ha& bee., found
from eapprisuce, that the greater mamba of periogs
f..Adkcied,Jmve been_ cur.4o, r
greater number have recovered.
Q. Caa you forni.any judgulent Or probable con-

of the duration of his laNello iling-1-
17A:::414n form no ,idea of, the Of:Wan of his Ma-
jestyty present indispositions. It one pi?nsi tiers what
Mat Men place in his Majesty's former ilhsesa of,the '
same kind, it is probable -414, ictna'y no; continue
very long. • •
Q. Whether, so far as experience enables
.ypu. to
judge cif his-Majesty's diSorifer;•yoraink it More pro-
bable that.his Majesty will, or will nut re-cover, so-as
to render him capable of attendhag to.public business?'
A.
_I can perceive no failure of his Majesty's facul-
ties, and therefore I
,presume, if tits:Majesty should
recover, that he will recover with the same capacity
for business as before his present illness
Q. What degree of experience have you had, your-
self; in this particular *cies of disorder ? A. My
experience has nut boon extensive. , I have been in
business for 20 years, and have occasionally seen pa-
tients affected with complaints of the same general
character as that of his Majesty.
' Q. Whether any amendment has already taken
place in the course -a. his Majesty's disorder, and
whether the appearance of such amendment conti-
nues at present ? A. His Majesty is considerably
better than he -was ten days ago. He is certainly
somewhat better than he was yesterday evening, and
perhaps a shade better than yesterday morning.
The Report was then laid on the table.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUErfeIt
it his duty to rise, for the purpose of suggesting to
the consideration of the House the course of proceed-
ing which he trusted they would agree with him in
adopting. He was persuaded, that while the House
mast have received a melancholy impression from the
unanimous concurrence of his Majesty's Physicians,
in answer to the first question that had been put, to
them, relative to the capability of his Majesty to at-
tend to public business, they must also have derived
considerable consolation and satisfaction from the re-
plies which had been made ro the other questions pro-
posed to those Gentlemen.—(Hear, Hear, Hear.)—
He was persuaded that it had afforded a high gratifi-
cation to those who heard him, and that it would af-
ford a high gratifiCation to all his Majesty's loyal and
affectionate subjects, to find that his Majesty's Physi-
cians concurred unanimously in opinion with respect
to the great probability of his. Majesty's recovery
However varied the language of these , Gentlemen,
their sentiments were nearly the same. With some
shades of difference in their expressions, they had
all uniformly declared their confident expectation
of his Majesty's recovery ; some carrying that ex-
pectation to as great a degree of certainty as could
be supposed to attach to any thing human and ne-
cessarily contingent. The next point to the expecte.
tion thus joyfully held out of the recovery of his Ma-
jesty, a point of not less importance to the feelings
and happiness of his Majesty's subjects, was the opi-
nion of the Physicians that there was a fair prospect
of his Majesty's recovery in such a manner as would
enable him safely to resume the direction of public
business. On this part of the subject the House
must have heard with peculiar pleasure the particu-
lar details of Dr. Heberden and Dr. Baillie. Dr.
Heberden had declared that he founded his expecta-
tions of his Majesty's recovery, on " the present in-
tegrity of his Majesty's faculties ;" and Dr. Baillie
" on a consideration of the symptoms of his Ma-
jesty's disorder, and perceiving no failure in the fa-
culties of his Majesty, and on the soundness of his
Majesty's constitution." The House and the coun-
try, therefore, had not only reason to indulge the
pleasing expectation of his Majesty's recovery, but
to be assured that, notwithstanding the advanced pe-
riod of his Majesty's life, and, notwithstanding the
circumstance of the present indisposition of his Ma-
jesty being the recurrence of a former one, his Ma-
jesty's Physicians expressed in their statements an
earnest confidence that his Majesty would recover
in sufficient energy to discharge the high duties of
his station, and that he would regain a sound con-i
stitution, and an unimpaired state of mind. The
next interesting point in the examination of the Phy-
sicians to which the House would direct their atten-
tion, was the probable duration of his Majesty's ill-
ness. On this point the Physicians had given their
opinion with a caution and a reserve which might
have been expected, and which did credit to their
testimony. They had stated themselves generally
to be incapable of exactly determining. One said
that he could not satisfactorily conjecture ; but, how-
ever uncertain the period, it would be found, by re-
ferring to the examinations of Drs. lleberden and
Baillie, that those Gentlemen were of opinion that
the duration of his Majesty's illness would not be
long. There was only another point which it was
material to. consider, namely, the progress which'
the House had a right to indulge in • believing, and-
which, indeed, they were assured, his Majesty had al-
ready made. To the questions which had been pro-
posed to his Majesty's Physicians on a former occa-
sion, a new question had been added. It was some
consolation to reflect that it was a now question. It
was some consolation to find that there was a present
propriety in such a question. Unt4tiinately, at the
period of the examination of his Majesty's Physicians
in 1788, no symptoms of abatement in his disorder
justified the introduction of such a question, as that
which had now been proposed. The manner in which
it had been answered evinced its propriety and ne-
cessity. Dr. Reynolds declared " That his Majesty
was certainly better, and that he was toll as well;" if ,
not better, on the day hefore, and continued so:that.
morning, that he had been sii.ce he had had the ho-
nour
of auending him." Sir H. ailford was of opt-
nion " That a ctinsiderable amendment had taken
place in his Majesty's health; in the course of the last
24 hours ; that his Majesty's mental health had'
very much improved; although.his bodily indisca,ii-
tion had somewhat increased, an indispositio6, how-
ever, which he had reason to suppose, would he soon
abited." Dr. Hebeiden declared," That he thought
his Majesty considerably amended." Dr. :he
same. Dr. Baillie, examined the day after the ether
Physicians, expressed his conviction,
," That. his Ma
j-
esty was considerably better than he was ren days
ago—that he was somewhat better thin yesterday
evening,and a shade better than yerserday. mocning,r-
Letihisi siatemoit of Dr. Baillie': beconueared with
,that !neat on the preceding: day by Dr, Reynolds,
4, That up, to the time of his expoination his Majesty
WAS as well, if not better, than he had been singe he
;;tad had the hiiiumr of attending him ;" and from
that comparisoli the Haas* wttld derive nth most
pleasiug aasnranCeot his bfileistes progressive amend-
ment- With shim infonniikk before them—with the

moral tertainti.of his Ma/eft?' recover,
present indisposition—with the cenridenr
that recovery would be attended by 4 Crorn
ration of the vigour 6f . his Isfajes: f'. iti,
soundness of his constitution—with tie
that a considerable ounendinent had all
place ie hii Majesty's health, alihoul
uncertainty asito the period when his co,
' velescence might •be expeetede-wit!, ;41
irsgsatfid.impressions the Howe had no \
mite on the course which it would he mosi
for them to pursue. They bud to drermi
it would.be.proper -for them to take imme,
Ito supply the existing deficiency ie theesf
Royal authority, or whether it would ni
.expedient under the present circumstar
view also to give a facility to the speedy
his Majesty, to pause and to allow a fur...,
while an expectation.,-a hope--ier even a
'peered of the accomplishment within that
au event so desirable. In proposing.to the
two questions for their serious comitierati,
be allowed to say thatahoir present situa
of extreme calamity, and deeply to be Ix
was aware that the House had only a cl
ficulties. They had only an alternative
was for them. to alleviate as much as i
evil by their dikretion and wisdom.
circumstances, he did not presume to 1
he could offer any proposition that wou,
from criticism or objection, but he die;
on a view of the whole case, the House
act in a way more consonant to their o'
and to the feet?ngs of the country, than ii
rate exercise of their discretion, to allow
interval,during which the expectation whi
cherished might be happily realised. W,
he should recommend another adjournmen;
teen days ; feeling that that re "::t be a •
rant period, and that during that period
plishment of the-object for which the H(
country so ardently prayed, required that
should be agitated as little as possible.
to declare, however, that at the expiration
rind to' which he recommended the House
unless such an amendment should take i
Majesty's health as to afford a reasonable
speedy recovery, he should not consider
with the public interest farther to delay
liamentary steps to supply the deficiency
cutive Government. Before he sat dow
advert to someobjections which it was
be made to his proposition. He had been
understand tljat it would be urged, that
that proposition, the House would act '
to the precedent of 1788, and in dereliction .
duty. With respect to that part of the objection
related to precedent, he could not conceive
man could so misapply and misconstrue r
dent of 1788, as to suppose that it would
dieted by the adoption of the present
—ln 1748, the House proceeded to an
don of their own, conceiving justly that t.
no right to take any steps but on information
they had themselves obtained. Ter wadi' -
him to propose a departure frau suck a '
Were he standing there to propose
of a proceeding, the effect of which would
than for ad interval (however he might '
short), to dethrone the Monarch, he .
it impossible that the House could commence
proceeding without an inquiry into the:
by themselves, and carried on in the most
isatisfactory" manner. When he had used
I " to dethrone the Monarch" for a time, however
he knew that the royal authority must
but the removal was equally to dethrone.
the House had not the present satisfact,_
tion imparted to them. Progress of amendmeni
there was none ; 'now a confident expectation '
1 tertained of his Majesty's recovery—a probabilh
isted that that recovery would not be long
and an assurance was given that an amendment .
actually commenced. The cases, therefore, were not
' analagous. If the House were now called upon to sup-
ply the deficiency in the executive authority, then in-
deed the precedent of 1788 would be applicable. But
could it be contended that for the mere purpose of
suspending their proceedings, the precedent of 1788
required the formality of an inquiry instituted by them-
selves ? Directly the contrary. The House would hare
the goodness likewise to observe, how the question is
1788 terminated. They would find that after pro-
ceeding for three months ; that after the discussions
'hall ripened into the Regency Bill, which had pasted
through the House of Commons, and was in a Cern:
mittee in the other House—the bare statement of the
Lord Chahcellbr, on the 19th day of February, 1759,
of the amendment of hi: Majesty's health, was thought
sufficient to induce an adjournment for five or sic
days. A second statement of a similar nature occa.
sioned adjournment, and by successive adjournmens
the Parliamentary proceedings were suspended ma
the 9•11 of Mardi. It thus appeared. that on the ha.
statement of his Majesty's amended health, widest
any formal inquiry into facts, the measures in cos.
I temptation at' that period were suspended for dux
‘seeks. He certainly could not say—would to Go
that he could !---that the examinatiou of the PhYsl'
dens, which had lust beea laid en the table by his
Right Honourable Friend, proved his Majesty's health
to be as much r,:coveleti :is it was when Lcrd Thor.
`low
made the declaration to which he had alluded.
He bad adverted .to t:iat ocetirrence, in answer to
those who night fpund their objections to the pone
proposition, on what they would .term present. to she._
ithat in the course nano recommenciedby his Majelt/I1
Ministers, they were not. justly chargeable with !hi
.40144 m of any piece:lent wherever. App 6'
I therefore that du :House were not called upon.oo7_
by precedent, 9r by Coestitutionel principles, to do
any thing but exercise their 1 sound. disc:tame oa tol
sithject, which so unhappily for the public intestate'
iquired their decision, he thought that he amid lid
advise a course by which their wisdom could bsols'
`cleal clearly maeifeeted, than by rnovieF..“ Tilt._str.
rly
the House do adjourn to this day factor',
r. WHITBREAD, adverting to the '..,
lion mmde by. the Right Honourable Gentleinsh7
he had heard of intended objections .to hiarrtiesa)
adjournment, observed,,that he* (Mr.
h..d understood, before he came dOwn to ;17, sa.
that it was in the•coutmplatios of ii Arigi 0
Geutletpan to propom;sue 4djacceskostvl. ''' se
IMd.*-en told- that the -term at. that 1 `r
flaummeat %gold be fir half that CiA le lits

always att. nds me%
ence, I should say,
twat I have no
_dou
Q. What degr
yourself, in this pa
In above forty yea
seen may instance:
Q. Whether an
place in the cours
whether the appear
at present ? A. I,
I am not sure that
ter, yesterday, and
hos has been since I
jesttirr this- iiiress,
Sir HENRY HALF
Q. You are des'n
the state of his Ma
him incapable of cc
ex of atteoding.to
I thinkit is such a
ment, or attending
Q. What are tl
jesty's recovery ?
gree,probahle, that
Q. Do you.foun
saner to the previc
symptoms of his N
espenesice in other
both ? Upon 1
Q. Whether in
order his Itt..l3ty 1
froro espelience th
so affected, have b
Q. Can you for
jecture, of the dur
caunot form a ia
Q. Whether
jr.dge.ot IViajc
N 4
wisle, that lvs
s., is to render hi,
huriness ? A. Mt
will recover. •

•
recovery from •
y ►eomp;eter.
ird
V, 1. I/1111d and b
in
in
Vail the ,
had already 4•
although r,,..11
hs comylete
with all ti.tv:.
had now t„
bee most expo,,,
determine %;:r; .
irttruediatt:
the exerci,e
ould not be
atm:tuners, vet, stt
speedy recovery „
a further intere4
even a chance
bin that interval
..,
to the 'douse...L.,:
ideration,
it situatioa wa,
)be Lomita cb
my a choice oidit
native of evil. •
:h as possibk th
km. Under sa
ne to suppose • ,
tat would be tr. Jo
he die; ;!rink ,
House could a, -,1
their own feelia.
, than in the t
) allow of a f .
ion which had
!d. With this h ,
ournrnent for fi
be a very impor A
period the acc,
the House and t
red that the pi
ible. He was t .
tpiration of the .
House to adjo. , b.
d take place' in
sonable hope of
)asider it consist
o delay taking
Rciency in the
at down, he w.,
vas probable w,
had been given. -!
that by a .
d act in opposi
dereliction of ..
the objection ,
t conceive that an
;construe the p. ,
it would be
oresent prnposi
d to art in
idy that they
.7
information
ar would it be
inch a precedent.
ch would be no
alight hope to '
•fie thotad bola
commence such*
) the facts 'agitated
he most formal and
ad used the phase
ime, however short,
must be supplied,
iethrone. In 1788,
tisfactory infanta.
A amendment thee
expectation was en.
r—a probability"'
be long retarded;
in amendment had

. . •
the. Right Honbetrable eventlemstrWoommen- • •re me . .
MatesiesUieoste*ft raticonlmeato tb.. tise tlitibit- lb male it imprttileat now . The light
lie c messed, however, that, -nutwithitnding
viate these tliffitoltiet No. They contenlea them. HonOurabie. Gentleman took here a short' view of the,
,
7T1).il 1011, and having also heard the deposition telees withholdittg out fallationrexpectatinni of their possible disadvanteges'which might attend the ap.
majesn's Physicians, he still could not be 'removal. Ever since the examination of the last 'poin'tment'ef a Regency.; among which he mention.
t„ h .lieve until this moment,that in the et- 'Physician, the talletin 'was urthivoutahle. Tt de- ed the possible, although not probable, change of flys-
situat!on of the country, and:after- the two ad- clered that the King had passed an indilfereat night.' tern from the Regent-appointed. (Naar, hear.) He
which had taken place; 'the Right Hon. Let the House beware hove they permitted the key- would say, that such a change, although he did
ace el would be hardy enough 'to propose a fur= stone Ortihe arch ofthe Constituticin to be withdrawn. think it probable, in our system of politics, for in-'
eenession of their proceedings. Be the report The Right Honourable Geritliman 'had talked of stance, towards Spain and Portugel, might be atten-
let in by the Right Honourable Secretary .of detirrnning." When 'George I. and • George li, ded with the mast serious incoaveniehces. He would
(and he must here expresshis• satisfaction that were absent from the tonntry, and the kingly office not suppose that any one'would attribute to Ministers
to the interposition of his Honourable Friend was executed by Regents, were those MOriarchs de- a wish to remain in their present embarrassed situa-
-I;im, that report had not 'been received without throned ? Would the House endure to be told die. • tions, their only with, was to fulfil their most arduous
ir appeared, that, after an interval of tinctly, and threatened by inference, that if they ' duties. He was confident, that the result of the exa-
, weeks, his Majesty was still wholly incapable adopted a tonetitutional proceeding, they woultide- ! mination before the Privy Couricil had created a ge-
:tending to public business. The Physicians were throde the Monarch? Isro ; those who proposed the neral satisfaction through the House, without any'
unanimous in rising on no period as that of the' adjournment, and thoieWho, probably with the best , difference' of party. If at the end of the adjourn-
ibie termination of his Majesty's disorder. In intentions, supported it, were. the individuals from meet, the expectations raised were not realised, it'
situation the House and the country stood, whom the Constitution would experience the severest , would be necessary to adopt some further proceed-
, the King became incapable of discharging the injury. They would thew that the country could ings ; •and he thought that the House would fulfil the
and
important duties of his station, would be Ido at well without that Which had hitherto been Cori- wishes of the nation in allowing as mock time as pos-
described in the words of Lord Camden, whO, on sidered an • essential part of the Government as with sible for the recovery of Isis Majesty, in allowing the
ilarloccasion, declared, "that the whnle functions ; it, if they could prove, that so long as it was pro- thing fair play, and not taking any measures until
to c.ccutive Government were thereby suspend- bable that the King might recover, so long the they were absolutely necessary.
He would take a retrospect of the late trans- i Government could go on without any Xing at I Mr. PONSONBY was of opinion, that the Right
is. In the first instance, letters' having been all. In 1788, the novelty of the circumstances in Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Exchequer)
ten by his Majesty's Ministers, to those Members . which the Country was placed, was an apology • who had proposed an adjournment for a fortnight,
who were favourable to their views, and to no • for the omission which had been allowed, and had steered very widely from that proposition, in
; the House assembled on the first instant, and the errors 'whirrs had been committed at that peritid . what he had said in support of it. The House ought.
).,,ned for a fortnight. On the 15th, having . but did the Right Honourable Gentleman who was ;to agree to the proposition for an adjournment,
in a,sembled..in full number, another adjourn- then at the head of the Administration, after the first .they had been told, because the Physicians had said,
was proposed ; against that adjournment he adjournment of the House, urge a moment's delay that there was a strong probability of his Majesty's
Whitbread) protested, and a division taking ,in proceeding to supply the deficiency that existed ? ultimate recovery. He was as much gratified as any
divided. The Right Honourable Gentle- No such thing. Though from various circumstances man in that House could he, to hear sueh a statement,
had founded his proposition of the 15th' on the the accomplishment of the remedial measures pro- j that there were hopes of his Majesty's ultimate re-
Istance of his having just returned from Wind- posed was postponed, yet up to the period of Lord covery ; still that was not the question before the
and of his being enabled to declare, " that his Thurlow's declaration, not as the Right Honourable House; The quesion was, in fact—Ought the House
sty was in a state of progressive amendment." Gentleman had stated it, that his M jesty's health , according to the Constitution, take a certificate in the'
them
the Right Honourable Gentleman had used was better, but that he was actually in a state of con- shape of a Report of the Examination of his Majesty's
same consolatory but delusive words. Deceived valescence, up to that period the whole bent of both Physicians before the Pt ivy Council, as a ground for
:hem once, would the House allow themselves to Houses of Parliament was applied to make provision ' their adjourning for another fortnight ? They ought
_ived by them a second time ? If on the 15th fwr the correction of the existing evil. Now, however, t not ; and though he was in the presence of many emi-
House had adopted the proposition which he had they were called upon to lay on their oars, and all,' nent Lawyers, he feared not contradiction : such a i
mended, of adjourning from day to day, would . from a misunderstood delicacy toward his Majesty, ! certificate was no sufficient ground for their adjourn-
we been possible that they would now be so re- who, if he deserved to be beloved as he was believed, ment. The Privy Council was a great body, it was
from the situation in which they ought to find and that he did so deserve no man could doubt, would true ; but by the Constitution it Was net empowered
elves ? that they would now be so remote from think the Constitutian of the Kingdom of fir more to supply any deficiency that might happen in the third
preliminary step to the removal of the existing importance thin his own individual feeling. 66 But," t estate of the Constitution. The Privy Council could
iency ? Was it not evident, that on the evening said the Right Honourable Gentleman, "we must do no more than examine the Physicians as to the state
15th, at the very moment that the Right 'Ho- abstain from diseitssing this subject, for fear of in- lof the Sovereign's mind, if it were supposed that he
,able Gaidenian was talking in that House of creasing the Royal malady." Yet in 1788 and 1789, could not exercise the royal functions; and, if unhap-
progressive amendment of his Majesty, his Ma- the sttbject had been discussed for three months with- ; pily they should find that such was the truth, then they
os malady had considerably increased ? Did the nut any increase of that malady, and under all their were bound to certify the fact, oldie Royal incapacity
feels tell truth Or falsehood ? If die latter, they debates, the King had got well—and what was the to the House. After they had done that, their power
base imposition on the Public ; if the former, differerice in the situation of the country xt the two ceased ; they had done all they were capable of per-
involved direct contradictions. The Bulletin of periods ? The Right Honourable Gentleman at the forming Out such a certificate, containing the °pl-
ay the hills declared, that his Majesty was not head of affairs in 1788, it had always been his fate ; nion of the Physicians, that his Majesty would ulti-
.ll as on the preceding day ; and in that of Se- to oppose. Whatcver, however, • had been thought i mately recover front his present indisposition, was
the 17th, it was said, that for the last two of his politics, the nation had confidence in Mr. Pitt's not a ground that would justify the House in ac-
,the fever of the King had been higher, includ- talents, and they were content to leave in his hands ceding to the motion before them. Whoever heard
cnsequently, in that description, Th ors(' y the that power which they thought could not be better 1 that toe Privy Council was competent to supply a
,on which day the Right Honourable Gentle- lodged than' with him. But did the Gentlemen op. I deficiency in the third Estate, by the incapacity of
declared his Majesty to be in a state of progres- posite assume ;fiat they occupied such a space in the the Royal Person ? Such a position was never heard
amendment, and to which day the Bulletin of eyes of the pcol-le s Mr. Pitt, or that they could go , of, and the Privy Council could only inquire as to the
16th referred, as a day on which his Majesty had on as Mr. Pitt might have gone on, without general state of the Royal mind. It was the duty of the two
;partitively well. He might justly enter a diisatisfaction ? It was unquestionably most unfortu- existing States of the, realm (the Lords and Corn-
, against some of the proceedings of the Privy nate, that alter the experience of the evils and dan- mons) to supply any deficiency there might be in the
acid, and particularly against one of the ques- • gere of 1788 and 1789, •some remedy had not been constitution. What was there before the House, that
which, in his opinion, ought not to he asked. adopted to provide against the recurrence of such an it was said would justify them in acceding to the mo-
he particularly insisted on the absurdity of using exigency. There had been since two melancholy I don for a further adjournment ? A report, containing
term 4, progressive amendment," when one of instances, the one in 1801, the other in 1805, of a ; certain questions put to his Majesty's Physicians, by
Physicians (Doctor Bernie) had expressly said, . derangement in the Royal mind. Out of delicacy, Ithe Privy Council, with their answers. Some of those
66 during the last ten days," his Majesty was however—a mistaken delicacy, and in the culpabi- I questions were very improper, and ought not to have
; necessarily excluding the day on which the lit), of which he could not deny his full share—no step been put. Good sense, as well as common decency,
it Honourable Gentleman had declared, that of a prospective nature had been taken. There were would not have dictated such inquiries. Such was
lajesty was in a state of 66 progressive amend; many circumstances in our situation in 1788 mate- the report which the Chancellor of the Exchequer
;" and distinctly implying that he was worse rially different from the present. His Majesty was told the House would justify them in agreeing to his
that period of ten days. The fluctuation of then in the full vigour of health ;he was not far ad- motion ; and another Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
Majesty's disorder was hereby rendered evident, vanced in years—he was accessible to all—he could : Yorke) said, that if the House were to proceed to the
not seeing a probability that in the Interval Pro- shew himself to his loving subjects, and receive their 'appointment of a Regency, such an act would be pro-
his Majesty would be so far recovered as to be congratulations—he could repair to the metropolitan Iductive of great inconvenience, because it would be
able of exercising all those royal functiZnis which, • cathedral of the kingdom, there to return thanks to j productive of a change of system in the exercise of the
at me like the present, it was so necessary should Novi oENcE for his recovery, and by all these means lexecutive power. It was not for the House to inquire,
duly exercised, he should on that ground alone . convince the people that that recovery was genuine whether the appointment of a Regency would be pro.
ide the House on the present question, and call and complete. Unhappily, however, his Majesty had' ductive of this inconvenience—of a change of system;
an examination of the Physicians by a Committee, lately been afflicted with a calamity—the deprivation i but the question seemed to b should the House con-
a Frelude to further proceedings. Had the House !of sight, which rend-red him inaccessible to his sub. sent to hand over to the Privy Council the Con.
the 15th adopted the adjournment from day to : Jests—whi.eh rendered him inaccessible to the know. ; stitution, and be satisfied to do what such Come
id had the then se,-- - the Id hr- leJtr." ',di it should di ? The Pri

, ant .tad they then seen as tney won._ _.ave seen,
. instead of amending, his Majesty's health was
efortunately getting worse, would it therefore have
• possible for them to have resisted a motion for
examination of the Physicians ? He contended
tat it v.ould have been impossible. With every
.-ling of personal delicacy towards the King, he felt
ce strongest delicacy towards the people and towards
tie Constitution. When people talked of personal de-
icacy, in a case like this, to a Monarch so long and
) justly beloved, they ought to be cautious how they
eplA the term. He was persuaded that his Majesty
'odd scorn to be told, that in consulting his delicacy
,- did not hesitate to bring the high office, !oy the
nediccharge of the duties of which his Nlajesty bad
le himself so beloved, into disrepute. He-wouid
could any act of authority be promulgated
nighout these realms to which, in the present cir-
rsttnces obedience was. due:? Was there, a seat of
qice ? Vas there a fountain of mercy ? Could an
• he commanded? Could an army be recalled ?.
id reinforcements be sent to Lord Wellington ?
id an unfortunate culprit be pardoned ? Did his
tjesty's Ministers wish to persuade the House of
minions to connive at the extinction of the Royal
dimity ? They Would not dethrone the Monarch,
it they would take the crown from the Constitution.
insure obedience, protection must be insured.—
here was that protection at tile present moment ?
la his Majesty's Ministers ?. If so, they were Re-
er.ts. Could they even legally convene the Privy
11,1161? Miglie not any other Privy Councillors
that body,- and. 'for any other purpose?—
add even the paper that evening laid on the table
the House be legally produced ? Necessity cer-
ittly justified its production ; but that necessity
'eta to be removed the instant that the power ex-
to remove it. And let the House consider at
At a period all.this was occurrinA ? At a time
ien weeks carried a load undeeeditch centuries had
'tofole staggered.. If an accident were to befal
Commanders abroad, how would their loss be
? If an accident Were to befal our Corn-
Ider-in-Chief at home, how would his loss be sup-
If his Majesty's Ministers Were to act in such
Manner. as co-draw down upon themselves the
of that House; Wig could that displeasure
exPtettedin Addres. tOlhe Throne? Did his

ci. lots. iirect .vy council was not corn,
petent to inquire into, and to provide for a deft.
ciency in the Constitution ; and that House co-ope-
rating with the Lords, was competent to provide i(tr
any such deficiency. He would not consent to dele-
gate the Privy Council to do that which belonged
alone to the two Estates of Lords and Commons,
when a deficiency in the Constitution occurred. His
had not been 4 p?-.-ized <.f the examinati,in in-
stituted by the Privy Council ; he kneW no mare of
it than the inhabitants next the North Pole; and how
could it retard his recovery? Something ought to be
done ; the House ought not to adjourn ; 'and if the
deficiency in the Constitution were supplied, should
his Majesty recover after a long illness, then Mini-
sters would be hurrying the House into the adoption
'of measures which they deemed necessary. A Right
Honourable Gentleman opposite (Mr. Yorke) had
said, that the appointment of a Regency would up-
set that domestic economy approved by his Majesty,
and would consequently, be very inconvenient ; there-
fore, he (Mr. Y.) thought it ought not to be resorted
to; but he (Mr. P.) could not persuade himself that,
if a Regency were appointed, it 'must necessarily
do wrong; that the Pat liament and Ministers must do
wrong if a Regency were appointed. If it were to them
a case of inconvenience, it was one of their (the Mini-
sters') own choosing'; for nobody forced them into
the situations which they now filled, and of which
they seemed so anxious to keep possession.. ( Hear.)
It had also been said, that on his Majesty's recovery
it would be painful for him to learn what had taken
place, owing to the unhappy situation in which he
had been placed; but allusions of such a nature ought
not to be made. The House ought to be guided by
constitutional considerations alone. They had been,
told, that it was in the power of the two Houk:, be-
yond all question, to provide for a deficiency in the
Constitution ; but then, it had been idded, that they
ought not to 'provide for such deficiency now, be-
cause his Majesty's illness would not be of long du-.
ration, accoriling to the report of the Physicians.—
That was Ole opinion of the Physicians; and as those
said wilt.; urged that of)iiiion 'upon the House, it was
subject to the uncertainty cous,:quent on medical pre.
fictions. No one of the Physicians had said wheni t
was likely that his* Majesty would recovery and no
one of them could form . .a satisfactory mordant."

Ledge of passing events except through the medium
of others. He was advanced in years, and was more
in the power of ot!ler men than he had been before.
These considerztions had been last year painfully
forced upon the attention of the public by his Ma-
jesty's Ministers, who made his Majesty's calamity
the House
of his inaccessibility to his subjects. Let
the House seriously corr.ider these things, and then
let those who could doso vote for an adjournment.
H. coal i not conceive it possible that the Right Hot;.
Gentfttnan should obtain the support of the House
to his motion. For himself he should vote altogether
against it, feeling it an undispeitsibil. duty to which
the House was bound, in the first place, to ascertain
the fact of his Majesty's indisposition by an examina-
tion of the Physicians before a Committee, and in
the next place, to take steps to supply the deficiency,
if •necessary, and if not necessary, to be ready for
any future necessity that might occur. Even were
the King to be restored to the full possession of his
faculties, and were instantly to encounter the accu-
mulated business (in which he confessed that he saw
a danger of relapse), still the:House and the Coun-
try ought to be provided with sometliiag to which a
future reference might be made, in order to supply
any dccasional jetioency in the royal authority. He
should give his decided negative to the motion.
Mr. YOR KE thought the situation in which the
House then stood, the most difficult and the Most
embarrassed. that could be well conceived. They
should panie before they went to a determination ;
the very re-union of the House,under the present cir-
cumstances, was a perfect anomaly, . They were in
fact botind to do what was necessary, and nothing but
what was absolutely necessary. The Honourable
Gentleman who had spoken last had taken advantage
of the inconveniency arising from the present state of •
things ; no doubt the inconveniency was great, and
his Right Honourable Ftiend had stated it to its full'
extent although in fewer words, by Saying that they
had only -the choice of evils... The Honourable Gen. •
demon had, flowerer, gone farther than could be juts-
. tified by the proceedings of 1788 ; for if the case was
so very urgent,as-he had represented it, why did such
delay take place, before any measures we're adopted ?
The times, indeed, were different from the present.—
We were then at peace, *ld if it was deemedytudent
:to wait then, what would. exist in the conviction of

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unanimous in ll]
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in.:J:lft' for a fa
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,ce, he divided.
~ had founded hi
umstance of hisl
and of his being
jesty was in a s'
Again tie Right
same coasolator
them once, woul
deceived by therr
House had ador
.mmended, of ac
' have be..-n possibi,
ae from the sitita
mselves ? that th
preliminary stet
ficiency ? Wits ti
15:11, at the s
•urable G-ntlenial
• progressive amc
!y's malady had
.ill-tins tell truth
.e a base imposit
involved dirge
I ,day the kith de
• well as on the pi
day the 17th, it
75 the fever of th
g cnsequently,
.th, on which da
. declared his 1%
amendment, a
16th referred,;
comparatively
otest against son
quicil, and party
;ns, which, in hi
t he particularly
term 4, progrE
tf Physicians (ID
' du " during the
later ; necessarily
light Honourabi
6 Majesty was is
lent;" and distill
Wore that period
6 Majesty's diso:
td not seeing a p
Pied his Majesty
apable of exercisi
to t me like the
't t duly exercised,
hide the House
it an examitsatim
ft a a prelude to fin
s the 15th adopt
lay, and had the)
tat instead of at
!;fortunately gets
I km possible for
c examination c
tat it v. ould ha
1 keling of persona
' to strongest delic
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icacy, in a case 1
o justly beloved,
IppEed the term.
mould scorn to ha
''. they did not hesit
daedischarge of
ade himself so
• could any
roughout these
umst mces obedi
ustice ? Vas th(
my he comman
ould reinforcer(
ould an unfortu
• ajesty's Minist(
°mounts to con
uthority ? The
but they would to
F 0 insure obediei
• Where was that 1
in his Majesty's
rents. Could tl
? Migju
15.,f7r,1,1e that be
Could even the p
of the House be
taitily justified i
cught co be remo
ed to remove it
hat a period al
hen weeks carol
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r Commander
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Ander-in-Chief
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• sure ef that I
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