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London, England, 1821-03-02 00:00:00

KENT.

DESIRABLE RESIDENCE, TWENTY. FIVE MILES
FROM LONDON.
TO BE LET ON LEASE, OR SOLD,
With either EIGHT, or THIRTY-SIX ACRES of PAS-
Tun k, LAND,
AMOST Desirable FREEHOLD RESLDENCE,
commanding delightful and extensive prospects, with a
fine view of the' Riser Thanws and the Opposite County of
Essex, situated in the beautiful Village of Slum.; a convenient
and agreeable distance from the great Turnpike-road leading
from London to Dover, Margate, and Ramsgate, 25 miles from
Town, four from Ito;hcster, and three from Gravesend, con-
sisting of a capital Matmion, with two Coach-houo,:;es, a lofty
Six-stall Stable, Hayloft, Granary, Saddle and Haraeu-room,
Dovecot, large Poultry-yard, productive walled-in and .other
Gardens, well stocked with thriving Fruit Trees, Pleasure-
Ground, Green-house, Shrubbery, and Thirty-34 Acres of Pas-
ture Land. •

The Douse is in very complete repair, and contains eight good
Bid-chambers, Dressing-roomz, Drawing and Dining-room.,
each 22 Feet by 17 feet, and 12 feet high, Breakfast-parlour 20
feet by 17, of thy same pitch, a large Billiard-room 11 feet high,
with• a full-sized Billiard Tal:7a, Library, Servants'-hall, But-
ler's-pantry, two Staircases, Kitchen, Dairy, Larder, good Cel-
lars, and every requisite for the accomtnodation of a Family of
the first respectability. .
The Premises are amply supplied with most excellent Water,
a Pew 1n the Church is attached to the Estate,"ard the Road, in
the neighbotithoo.l very good.—Po ;nession may be at Mid-.
summer or Xlichrelmas next.

Twenty4even Acres of thriving Woodland, adjoining, ahonnd.
ing with Game, parecularly Pheasants, may also be had on
Lease, er purch..ted with the above, if revir.4.
Fur further particulars apply to R. G. Ayerite Em. Ehorne
Villa, Rochester.

THE PATENT SElDrxrz POWDERS.
A S stveral Druggists and Medicine Veaders, in
La. London, Bath, Cheltenham., ece. are imposing on the
by *ening spurious and fnefricaciouipreparations under
the name of SELD LITZ PO Wl)EitS, with pirated-labels and
'threctioni, the Inventors atal.•Patentees think it necessary to
inform the Public, that the Medicine connot he genuine unlels-
the names of " Savory, Moore, and Davidson, °minim to the
Royal Family, 136, New Bond-street," are primed on the v-rap.."
per, ald each Box and Bottle E surrounded with a strnip, on
iwhich " I'. Pay:herds and Cu." is cnitiimed.

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EDUCATION IN IRELAND.

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HOUSE OP LORDS, MARCH 1.
This sterling the Loan CaaNCSLLOR did not sit for Appeals,
but cam( down to the House at a quarter before four o'clock.
Soon after their Lordships went to attend a Committee in the
Robing-room.
Private Bills were fonearded in their respective stages.
The Earl of SHA FTLSBURY then moved-their Lordships
to go into a Committee on the Atplual Indemnity Bill, which
was reported without amendments, and the Report agreed to.
The Marquis of LA NSDOW NE presented two Petitions
from certain o.vners and Occupiers of Land in the Ceuta), of
Somerset, who complained of the distressed state of Agriculture,
and hoped for relief from some alteration in the Corn Laws.
IFts Lordship, in presenting these Petitions said, that they were
numerously and respectably signed, and entitled to the most in-
dulgent attention of the House. While stating this, however,
he felt it his duty to add, that be could not concur in the idea
that relief was to be obtained to the Agricultural Interest by any
alteration in the Corn Laws.
At half after five o'clock their Lordships adjourned, till to-
morrow (this day) at ten.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The &MAXIS took the Chair at the usual hour.
Leave was given to bring in a Bill for Lighting with Gas the
Town of Newport, in the Isle of Wight.
A Petition was presented by Mr. HOLM SUMINTIL, from cer-
tain of the inhabitants of Chipping Norton, complaining of their
distress.
Leave was given to bring in a Bill for the better Lighting,
Paving, and Improving the City of Chichester.
Mr. IIULME SUMNER moved, " That there be laid be-
fore the House the Accounts of tke Orphans' Fend, and the
purptises to which the surpluses have been appropriated."
Sir WILLIAM CURTIS seconded tire motion.
A Petition was presented from a Mr. Seymour, against the
return for the Borough of Camelford. Ordered tube taken into
consideration on Tuesday, March 13.
it Petition was presented from certain Inhabitants of Corn.
wall, complaining of Agricultural Distress.
Sir HUSSEY VIVI AN presented a Petition from the In-
habitants of Truro, in Cornwall, complaining of their distressed
situation, and praying for relief from Taxation. Read, ordered
to lie upon the table, and be printed.
Mr. CU RTEIS presented a Petition from the Occupiers of
Laid at CuckfieM, in the County of Susses, complaining of
Agricultural Distress. Read, ordered to lie upon the table, and
be printed.
Sir EDWARD WO DEHOUSE presented a Petition to the
same effect from the Proprietors and Occupiers of Land in the
County of Norfolk. Read, ordered to lie upon the table, and
be printed.
Similar Petitions were presented from Lynn, Woodham, and
several other places in the County of Norfolk. Read, and or-
dered to be printed.
Lord ALTHORPE presented ten Petitions front different
places in the County of Northampton. The Noble Lord hoped
that a Committee would be appointed to examine into the causes
of distress, and that would be the first step to remedying them.
Read, ordered to lie upon the table, and be printed.
Lord SOMERSET presented a Petition from Tewkesbury,
in the County of Gloucester, complaining of Agricultural Dis-
tress.—Read, and ordered to be printed.
Three other Petitions of a similar nature 'WIN directed to be
read and printed.
Dr. PHI LLI MORE gave notice, that on the 14th of Mar*
ie would apply fot leave to bring in a BM to amend the Me&
riage Act.
Mr. LOCKHART presented a Petition front the District of
Richmond, in the North Riding of Yorkshire, complaining of
Agricultural Distress.—Read, ordered to lie upon the table, and
be printed.
Mr. A S HURST presented a similar Petition from Henley.—
Read, and ordered to be printed.
On the motion of Mr. ROBINSON, the Bill for •
mg
certain Acts for taking the average price of Corn, yeas a first
time, and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow.
Mr. CURWEN inquired if there was any clause in the Bill
to prevent fraudulent sales /
Mr. ROBINSON replied that there was.
bir. BENNETT moved for a Return of the number of Troops
employed at Ceylon, Deuterara, Van Dieinah's Laid, fa. up
to the latest period when melt could be obtained.
On the motion of Mr. LUSHINGTON, the Order of the
Day was read for entering into a Committee on the Indigo and
Cochineal Acts.
The House resolved itself into a Committee on the Salvage
Act.—Report read, and ordered to be received to-morrow.
The House resolved itself into a Committee on the Buck
Wheat Act.—Report ordered to be received to-morrow.
The Order of the Day for entering into a Committee on Silk
Manufactures was read and postponed.
Mr. CUR WEN rose to submit a motion, to which he be-
lieved no objection would be made. It was for an Account of
all Stock transferred in the Bank of England during the last
two years, excepting that transferred to the Commissioners of
the National Debt, specifying the particular Stock and the meant
transferred each year.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER expressed a
hope that the Hon. Gentleman would postpone his motion to a
future day.
Mr. CU RIVEN, after some remarks upon the importance of
the subject, consented to postpone the motion until Monday.
PROTECTING DUTIES.
Lord STANLEY, seeing a Right Hon. Gentle-
man opposite in his place, took that opportunity of
presenting a Petition which had been forwarded from
Manchester, an.l which might remove the delusion
under which the Hon. Gentleman laboured respecting
the feelings of the community in general upon the
system of Protecting Duties. The House would re-
collect, that at the Union of England and Ireland it
had been deemed prudent, for the sake of the trade
of both countries, to impose certain Protecting Du-
ties, which were to last only twenty years. The Pe-
titioners had remained quiet during that period, un-
der the hope that at its, expiration. the Duties would
expire also. That hope had been disappointed by
the Bill, which had been passed last Session. He was
aware that the Hon. Gentleman might say that the
Petitioners had then an opportunity of expressing
their disapprobation of the Act. But it would be
recollected that the Act had been passed through the
House with great rapidity, scarcely allowing an op-
portunity for petitioning. He now held a Petition,
signed, he might say, by the whole of the Manufac-
turing Interest of Manchester and Salford, expressing
an earnest wish that the Duties might be discontinued.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had
no objection to the Petition being received.
Mr. PARNELL thought it right to notice, that the
Manufacturers of this country in general were jealous
of the Manufacturers of another. The present Peti-
tion was therefore the more gratifying from the libe.
rality it displayed in that respect.
EARLY RESUMPTION OF CASH PAYMENTS.
• The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave,
notice that, in a few days, he should submit to the
House a proposition for enabling the Bank of Eng-
land to make payments in cash at an earlier period
than at present required by law—( Hear).
Sir H. PARNELL, in consequence of the notice
now given by the Right Hon. Gentleman, withdrew
the notice- of motion which he had given for that
night respecting the refusal of the Bank of Ireland
to accept sovereigns in payment, and expressed his
hope that the case of Ireland in this respect would
be considered by the Right Hon. Gentleman when
he brought forward the measure now announced to
the House.

Mr. M. FITZGERALD rose, to move for informa.
aiou respecting the Education of the Lower Classes of

'lreland. He need not comment upon the importance
el the subject, since every one would be aware of the
vest advantage which a regular system of education
would produce. The general subject of education
bad been so ably treated upon by. a Right Honour-
able Friend then absent, that little remained for him
but to state the particular grounds of the present mo-
tion. The affairs of Ireland were so little known, that
it was impossible for English Representatives to judge
of the low state of education in that country. It was
not generally known, that two Commissions for in-
vestigating the subject bad been already sitting in Ire-
land. From the first of those Commissions, he believed
no less than fourteen Reports had been presented Vi
the House; and it would shew the necessity of his
present motion, when he said that no measures had
been adopted in consequence of those Reports.—
By the 53d Act of the last reign, another Commis-
sion had been formed which had presented seven Re-.
pits, so that in the whole no less than twenty-one
Reports had been presented, and yet no measures had
in consequence been adopted. The Reports of these
Commissions had all agreed in stating the necessity
of introducing into Ireland some general system for
the education of the labouring classes. The Members
of the House would be surprised when he informed
I them that there were no fewer than seventy Schools,
on Royal foundations, and the income of which, aris-
ing from land alone, amounted to £5,000 per arm&
In addition to these, the Grammar Schools upon the
foundation of Mr. Erasmus Smith were nearly equally
numerous, and were possessed of revenues nearly
equally extensive. Besides the Schools which he h
mentioned, there were othere,called Diocesan Schools,
at which he calculated about 400 persons %vete edu-
cated. A singular fact, which be would mention to
the House, would demonstrate the necessity of
making some inquiry into the manner in which those
&boors were conducted:—there were two Schools
alone, the revenue of which amounted to upwards of
£5OO, and of those Schools one contained only five
scholars, and the other but fifty! There were also
other Schools, on private foundations, intended for
disseminating the English language,the funds of which
were most enormous, and the number of scholars
most disproportionate. The Schools which he had
hitherto mentioned were intended chiefly for the edu-
cation of the richer class of the inhabitants ; but there
were also other Schools, the original endowment of
which contemplated'the education of the poorer class.
The number of scholars educated in these sthools
amounted to upwards of 29,000 ; and their funds,
arising from land alone, might be calculated at
£39,000 per annum. If the whole of the revenue was
calculated, it might amount to more than £40,000
per annum. He did not wish to make any invidious
remarks, but he'thought that the House would agree
that this could not be better guided than by attending
to the recommendation of the Commissioners, not to
suffer the system of education to be fettered by reli-
gious prejudice. The Protestant schools proceed
on a principle of proselytism, and discourage as
much as possible the education of the lower class.—
Because they said, " We will not educate you, the
child of a Catholic, unless you first change your reli-
gion." Now, there was no doubt that funds amount-
ing to upwards of £40,000 per annum would, upon
a fair and liberal principle, be sufficient for the edu-
cation of nearly the whole of the population of Ire-
land. In addition to the schools which he had enu-
Merated, there were several others, and amongst the
rest, one, the Hibernian School, was entitled to great
respect, as it educated Upwards of six hundred per-
sons, and was in every particular conducted in a
manner calculated to produce the best results. He
would avoid troubling the House further by entering
into a particular description, but he would state ge-
nerally,• that in Ireland there were in the whole no
less than 3736 schools, at which upwards of 250,000
persons were educated. He stated that circumstance
for the purpose of shewiug that there existed a desire
in that country to afford education to the lower
orders, and that they received the instruction with
avidity. He did not wish to speak with disrespect of
the former Commissions which had been formed by
Act of Parliament, but, from whatever cause it had
proceeded, it was certain that those Commissions had
confined themselves to one or two schools, and that
little general advantage had resulted from their la-
bours. He should, therefore, suggest that the Reports
of those Commissions should be referred to a Com-
miuee. The total of the funds of the Irish Schools,
arising from landed property alone, amounted to up-
wards of £170,000 per annum; a sum so enormous,'
that it was evident that, by a judicious application,
it would be fully adequate to the education of the
lower orders generally. But even in case that reve-
nue. should prove deficient, the Commissioners had
recommended that the Clergy of the Established
Church of Ireland should each be rated two per cent.
upon the revenue which their benefices afforded them,
and that the Lay Impropriator should subscribe a
similar rate from the amount of his tithes. He-did
not mean to offer any opinion upon the plan which
had thus been recommended, but he would say, that
if it were voluntarily adopted, it would reflect the
highest honour upon the Clergy of Ireland. The
great obstacle to education in Ireland was the diffe-
rence of the religion of the great mass of the people
and that of the Established Church ; it was, there-
fore, absolutely necessary that some plan should be
resorted to which would as completely as possible
remove that difficulty, and insure the co-opera-
tion of the Clergy of the Establishment. He had
thought it his duty to bring forward the. subje..t
upon the grounds which he had mentioned, viz..
that notwithstanding two former Commissions had'
been issued, nor general advantage had yetresulted.
That there was a disposition amongst the permits
now under education to read the Scriptures be firmly
I believed, and that was all that should be sought to
be enforced, as far as religion was concerned. He
had thought it right to explain his intention with re-
gard to the next Session, because he hoped in the in-
terval that the augntion of the House would be
dniento the subject. For the present be would move,
" That there be laid upon the table an Account of
all the Funds and Revenues arising from all Schools,
either on public or private foundations, in Ireland, as
far as they have been reported ; aad that a Commit-
tee be appointed to inquire into the state of those
Schools, distinguishing the sources from whence the
funds were derived, and the number of Scholars edu-
cated at each School respectively."
Mr. C. GRANT felt as little disposition to pppose
the proper application of all public monies granted

for the purposes of education, as therHoninirable
Gentleman opposite, although he was not prepared
to live his immediate sanction to a comprehensive
national system of education. He could assure the
Hour!', that many of the lihggestiens made by the
Committee, had been carried into effect ; many ob-
:tacks had, however, been thrown in the way, by the
existing difference oireligion. He had a Bill in pre-
paration, which he should shortly int reduce, by which
those impediments would be removed. Many of the
chartered Schools had private funds over which Go
vernment had no controul, and with which they
could not interfere. The funds of others were re-
quired to be applied in a particular manner, by the
conditions of their Charters. Where public monies
had been granted, Government ought to exercise a
controul,'but it could not interfere with their pri-
I rate funds.
Sir H. PARNELL denied that the Catholics threw
any obstacles in the *ay of education, unless where
the schools were for the express purpose of making
proselytes to the Protestant Religion. The efforts of
the Catholics had been exerted to promote the exten-
sion of education with considerable success. He did
not think public aid was required for the furtherance
of education'in Ireland beyond a very limited extent.
Mr. RICE hoped it was not necessary to offer any
arguments at the present day to shew that the ad-
vantages to be derived from the principles of general
education more than counterbalanced the disadvan-
tages. Should any one, however, doubt it, it would
..)e satisfactory to its advocates to find, on reference
to the Statute Books, that our forefathers had recog-
nised the principle. By an Act passed in the reign
of Henry VIII. every Clergyman, on being inducted
to a living, was bound to take an oath, by which he
engaged to keep a school and give instruction to the
children of the parish ; that oath was taken by all of
them. There were 1,125 benefices in Ireland, out of
which 796 only had made returns to the orders of
the Committee in 1810, and of which 549 only had
scholars in conformity with the regulations of the
Statute. Now was it a fair presumption that those
who had not made a return bad no school ? and ac-
cording to that presumption, there were 576 Clergy-
men who had neglected to do that which, by the
oath they had taken, they were bound to do. He
hoped the motion of his Hon. Friend would have
the effect of bringing 'before the House such infor-
mation as would ultimately be the means of obtain-
ing a satisfactory result. The 12th of Elizabeth con-
tained the enactments of Henry VIII. in favour of edu-
cation, and would it now be forgotten that education
produced learning, learning truth,and troth happiness?
He considered the subject of education to be of the
utmost importance to Ireland ; and he trusted, under
the conciliatory auspices of the Right Hon. Gentle-
man, some comprehensive system of moral instruc-
tion for the poor of Ireland, would be brought into
action. The Catholics of Ireland were not inimical
to the extension of education ; on the contrary, they
were among its beat friends. That they felt jealous
when attempts were made to obtain proselytes was
true; and so would the Protestants, if schools were
set up for the purpose of converting their families to
the Catholic Religion. When the established Clergy
were advised, under the sanction of an individual who
had recently been advanced to the highest dignities
in the Church, that they were to teach the people
that they were not only to believe in the Religion of
CHRIST but they must also accept it as received and
understood by the Church, was it to be wondered that
the jealousy of the Catholics should be awakened?
Mr. C. GRANT remarked, that he had no abso-
lute objection to make against a comprehensive sys-
tem of education; and he could assure the Honour-
able Gentleman, he should come to the consideration
of the question with as little bias as any one.
Mr. WILLIAM CODRTENAY thought if the
education of the Catholics was conducted in a conci-
liatory manner, they would find that class of the
people some of its most useful adherents.
Mr. M. FITZGERALD replied, he observed that
he had not suggested any general system of educa-
tion ; he bad merely stated his hope that the recom-
mendation of the Committee would render it unne-
cessary for the House to seek for any other system
than the Committee might propose for its adoption.
The motion was then agreed to.
On the motion of Sir 11. Puma, a statement was ordered
to be laid before the House of the measures that had been taken
for carrying into effect the improvements recommended by the
':.onunittee.