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'en from the imputations that have been cast upon
him, and which be the less deserves, as be di-tineds
admitted that a clause short of that he proposed
would satisfy him. The Noble Duke acted under the
impression that though, in point of form, the Bill would
be rejected, yet that it might be possible by means of
another to alter the warehousing system, without de-
priving the country of the advantages it might derive
from the Bill as a part of the permanent legislation of
the land. My Noble Ftiend voted for the principle of
the Bill, and publicly declared his approbation of it.
He gave it his cordial support on going into the Com-
mittee; and he moved the Amendment. I firmly believe,
only for the purpose of improving it, by guarding against
fraudulent practices oa the averages. Of this I am
positive, that in no part of these proceedings did my
Noble Friend in the slightest degree depart from that
rectitude, that singleness of heart and perfect sincerity,
I which are as conspicuously the great ornaments Of his
character as his splendid military achievements have
raised his fame far above that of all other Commanders,
Mr. BARING, in explanation, assured the House
that it was 'with unfeigned reluctance he hid found
himself 'compelled to animadvert on the conduct of the
Noble Duke. He had stated most truly what be felt.
He agreed entirely with the Right Hon. Gentleman in
believing the,: the Noble Duke had'mistalen the meaning
of his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Huskisson), and had been
misled by some persons much more cunning and artfol
than hitusetf--;-(.4 laugh). He died not comnrend ttrr
MOde in which the Right Hon. Gentleman had alluded
to the day, for he really thought the debates of that
House were not to be obstructed because they might
happen to take place on the anniversary of the battle of
Waterloo—(Hear!) With one other observation he
would condole. To make his argument as short as
possible for the convenience of the House, he had stated
that the Noble Duke's amendment would have been
Mort thin tantarts ant to an additional duty of 2s. 6d.
as by raising the *ice froth 625. and a friction to 665.
the difference of 44 would have exceeded that sum.
Mr. HUSKISSON said, that he had to be the in.
dolgence of the House in the. performance of a veiy
painful but imperative duty. He certainly c uld have
wished that Hon: G-ntlesnen had cocfined themselves
strictly to the motion before the House, and that the
discuision hid not taken the torn whichithadtak,m. Tne
Right Hon. Member fir Oxford had said that all the ri-
dictile and blame which an H )n.Membet behind him had
lavished upon t é Amendment of his Noble Friends at-
tached in an equal decree to him (Mr. HOSlOsvon) as it
attached to his Noble Ft iend. fit *Mild tell the Right
Hon. Member for Oxford, that however great tt.at ntii
cule might have been, he would r abet have borne with
it, had it been twenty times as great, than tort the
Amendment should hate received the sanction of that
H ,use, and WOrkesl all the m,schief, ail the disadvan-
tage,, and all the distress which it must inevitably
have produced. At the name time. however, he must
deny that any pa7t of ;hat ridicule attached to him. He
was ant a etable neither for the itierits nor the demeriu
of that amendment. It had b: en said, that he bad sit-
Bested the amendment ; but it was quite cleat that the
Nobl:. Duke had entirely Mistaken the itigaeStion Which
he had made to Mit; and as ceitain doctimalti con-
nected with this snWt-ct had been alluded to there and
elsewhere, he hoped that the House would allow hini,
td read some extracts (hear), which would put the mat-
ter in *clearer light than it had yet appeared in. Late
on the night of the 24th of last month, on the eve of ihe
day for which the Corks Bill stood to be committed io
the House of Lends, he received froth his Noble Friend
a private communication, which he would now read'
to the House.

mirth ittut ria WO or wmtrietoil To Mi. intscsses.
• " London, May 24, 11127.
MT seas Minctatop-4 beg IN to Mott at the enclosed clause.
Vt:cr""l4lfff.wl!liiirlPil I,vellPLOjettiptt to he being
ix the Corn mg after tbe time pradtting the entry.
fn my opitiiosl it will to slara Ihe apprehensions enter-
, tallied that the system of warehousing may be for the purpose of
facilitating and coeering Ilse revoke of frauds in the averages i Iwo
will tend to Wags sane to vote he the MU who would edit-
orial vote against it,
14 Let me hart your amine nil soon as you can. Ever min,
most sincerely, " WELLINGTON."
The Oases ribieh his Noble Prima enelesitl ran u follows:
(lioelosore.)

“ Provided always that nis earn shall be entered for home con-
sumption front any winibettee In any port orio- in this king.
dMei, previous to the entry for home esokimpfte, or to the 'ex-
portation of every other portion or peetiots of earn previoodY
ledivd in warehouse, in such port or place; without the consent in
writing, under the baud gad sail of the proprieter of such teat-
*undated earn, so long as the average price of earn within this
kingdom, as settled by virtue of this Let, shall he less than To..
A quarter.”

He wrote an answer to this letter of his Noble Friend
that same night, which he believed that his Noble
friend received early the neat morning. In replying to
the letter which he thus received, he could assure the
House that he comMunicated with the Noble Duke in
the same spirit in which one colleague would commu-
nicate with another ; foi in such relation he still sup-
posed himself to stand with his Noble Friend as far as
that Bdl was concerned. He did not even keep a copy
of the letter which he Wren,' and he had to thank his
Noble Friend for the copy of it which he now held in
his hand. This letter had been the cause of all the
misapprehension which had taken place, and he must
therefore bag to trespass on the House by reading it :

snow stet. Noumea so me nogg ov vampires,.
" Sompereet.place, May aa, lit?.
Dirr DIAZ Dbah-/ shOuld certainly be disposed to acquiesce
In (my tameable. amceadon;Which fkarlid Man of thole
who object to the Cern IYW la the House of Lerda„ witheat da-
les the Ism of di Measure when sent bait to our Hems.
" leenhbe.tahe open mysalf to say, whether the proviso, which I
return. would be open to this objection. On other grounds. lam
afraid you would find great practical diffieuldes in the necadoo of
the proposed measure.
" It would give, as I understand it, the power to any ewe pro.
Priem( of foreign con, in any port, to by a Hie upon the sale of all
calm warehoused subsequent to his in that port, usdl the price
reached 70s.

" This would pot it In the power of one individual, by reserving
a quantity, however small, of aid corn, to stop any sate below 70s.
as effectually as it could be stopped by a positive prohibition under
that price.
0 Supposing this objection removed, bow, at any of the great
ports, can yes hope to get the consent in writing of every pr.
pricier ? I have no doubt that the corn now warehoused in
Lembo is the property of at least Joe hundred firms or indivi-
dui*, some living in London. some in different parts of Dagland,
some abroad. This corn, whilst in bond, is every day changing
hands. Hew can it be satisfactorily certified to the Customhouse
that eft the consents have been obtained ? or how is any party to
set about prbauing them all, or to know when he has
ptisbed it?
acean-
M There are other difficulties of detail which occur to me. For
issuance, a party who cannot fulfil the conditioss in the pert of
Leaden, may-sot find any difficohy In doing 14 at Rochester, be.
came of corn previously bonded at the latter port there Is none.—
In that cue, the Lowden owner may either remove his cure to
Rochester, or impart fresh corn from the Continent into that port,
and the law would he different in different ports, though possibly
very near to one another."

He made these objections in order to sbew that the pro-
?mad claws was really not a practicable, and Oates's

it had been, h would not beau ef.,l one. Ti.e lette:
concluded in ;be-e words
ilesd your hewn that nn entre herded gibe llispaningel
present incite be allowed to he entered for home consunsp-
tiOn tin the_ aver qe price had reached eds. and that thenceforward
'm awn so bonded, or thereafter imporjed, should come under the
siguladuns ef the Inn, individually I atould not object to such a
preeiso. It would ensure that No quantity bessuld that nor in band
&Could be thrown upon the market, unless, in wheel that quantity,
eke price reached a level which might fairly be taken as an indication
Wear being in want of further supply from abroad.
" Bast /ant stride/hat arts this anieseasesst *wad prveefital Soda
Mtn este Herres. I remain, &c. aW. HunKIMON."
!NEM, whit he meant to say was simply this—that op to
the price of 665. the corn now actually locked up should
have a priority, and that henceforth that and all other
torn should be under the regulations of the Bill. He
ad insinuated that there were 500,000 quarters of corn
in bond, which corn might be taken as the representa-
tive of so much British capital, much of which had, in
all probability, been brought there under the authority
of measures either already taken or pledged to be taken,
and he therefore did think that it was entitled to a
priority of 665. But then it was merely pro hoc vice,
and nothing approximating to permanency. It was to
oleo a preference to this corn, and not to the foreign
torn, as had been erroneously stated. He would
presently pursue the correspondence farther. lie,
must say that he should always look upon it as a
matter of regret that his Noble Friend, who ha.
done him the honour to, consult him upon this sub
Jett, to take his opinion on one clause, and then.
considering his reasons against that clause to be va-
lid and conclusive, had not hesitated to abandon it.—
be should always look upon it as a matter of regret
that his Noble Friend did not tell him that he had
another clause to propose—( Hear). If he had d
him that favour, the misapprehension would have bee
spared, and his Noble Fa iend would have been set right.
He cert tinly was never so much surprised as when a
Itiend of his, not • member of the other House. in-
iormeJ him that the Duke of Wellington bad pro.
posed a clause by way of amendment to the Corn
Bill, and tha! the Nnble I.fulre had stated that he had
his (Mi. Husk.sson?.) sanction for it. The =smelt he
received this intimation be lost n I time in writing to the
Noble Duke, telling him that i.e (Mr. liuskisson) was
not only totally ignorant that tits Noble Duke was
going to prop +se any clause, but that if he was rightly
informed of the nature of it, he was totally opposed to
it. In the same letter he had explained to the
Noble Duke the spirit and feeling coder which he had
communicated with him on :be subject of the clause. And
now he would ask the Right Hon. Member for Oxford,
it :his were a lair history of the Amendment of his No-
ble Ft tend which now formed a part of the Bill, how it
could possibly happen that he (Mr. Huskisson) could be
the 'lightest degree anawerable for it—and upou what
grounds the Right Hon. Member could saY that all the
objectinus, and all the ridicule to which that Amend-
ment had been subjected, were equally applicable to
him (Mr. Httskissoff)? (Cheers.) His Noble Friend
moved hil Amendment on theist of 4npe,, when his
own individiod opiniors might.. base. bees that he was
comet in citing his (Mr. Hi-- - the
halite; but, do the 2d of Jude we
Aerfectly aware thit he had W.'
kiisim's) letter. It molt alio,
that time nothing mots was dos
the followittifiThersday.
bandedPuk Wits. ly lqfortned
W. (Mr. us ore's
which ha had proposed would _
did not think it of vital importance, WW.
Friend persist ih going on With it?-41;nr i )girl. Why
press an amendment whiCh no human being in that
House could think anything but actual destruction to
the Bill? He could only say, that "'battier might be
the reason, the individoid who was now addressing them
could not be made chargeable with the measure. He
would oat do the Noble Duke the injouici of taking
the merit of it, and he must protest against its being
fat4fed upon him, who had no share WhaMier in the
Matter. He was Larry to trimpasi so lontors the time
of the House with this sUbject—iHear, hear); bait how.
ewer Inconvenient it might be, he mast beg to cell their
attention ro the letter which he wrote to hiss Noble
Ft iend on hetriog that he had proposed his amendment
in the House of Lords.

lam Xi. Midi:WON TO me Dots or inemaarrom
" Somerset-place, Ild Jane, 10 a. at.
"Me ow: Dots—l have this moment laird with great air-
false, that In moving an amendment last night in the Corn Bill,
you urged that imentlment as having been cenartatia to ht
am, dad that to prove my consent rat read a grimes letter, whisk I
had written to you, in answer to one which I bad the laicise to
twelve from you on the 24th ult.
" As I did not even keep a espy of that letter, and at year Grata
has felt yourself at liberty, *theta any subsequent communicators
of any sort with me, to make this patine moot it, I feel it necessary
to request from you a copy of that letter, as without It I can
enter upon that explanation of my own conduct which the use that
has been made of my letter renders necessary.
" Ai I have only yet received a very imperfect report (not from
any Peer) of what passed last night on poor moving the Amend.
meat, this is not the occasion to make any funber observations upon
the subject. ' I
" I must, however, be allowed to my, that, be the Amendment
what it may, it had na ms consent; and that if my consent (as b
*baps erroneously reported to me) was urged in any way if a
ground for pressing its adoption, I must protest against the audio.
thy of my, name having been used fur that purpose.
' 0 Though I cannot recollect the wording of my private letter, I
' wallArsow the feelings with which I wrote it. I considered ii as
• prisae, addressed to a colleague with whom I had sat is
upon Lord Liverpool's Cern SW, who had condurnal Op
i illeastire, add who was, therefore, ceesidered by rite as sashes
ift
for its Speen.: and my reeollectios greatly teceiees nee if I did am
mitmey to your Grace that any amendment, such as I now nadir•
stihd to have been Carded at your proposal, would be fatal to that
meased. " I remain, &c.
• • (Sighed) 0 W. HUSKISSON."
On 400 didad ddy he received the following answer :
..

in* Tim: nisi Sr sigitisaesor iro aka. nesanales".
" Linden, JUN g, ISt?.
N thitiii.Hisoisson—•Accarding to your desire, I send you a
espy of year. MO of the 24th of May. .in 40• Weir to mine of that
dote, in which I pfd for your cotidderadon a clause to be ply-
posed to be added to the Corn Bid, having for is object to prevent
the use of the WarehOute system to promote frauds in the proposed
modes of taking the averages.
• My object in considting you was to obtain your opinion and
sanction for what I proposed to do; and having obtained, instead of
your sanction to wbat proposed, your suggestion of another men-
sate, I adopted it.
" I stewed your note, and the clause which I bad drawn in an
fortuity with your seggestron, to Lord Goderich, who, I etteneuedy
conceived, consented to what I Intended to propose; and I stated
the content. only when he stated his dissent from my proposition,
which was in fact your own.
▪ la respect to the Bill being thrown out in consequence of this
ar as other alteratioo, that is a matter that depends entirely upon
the t. Ever yours, most faithfully, - I
•• WELLINGTON."
It would be quite impossible lot the Comntitiee not
to see that when the Noble Duke thus give him ciaarly
to understand that the amendment was his. he could no.
Jo otherwise than give ham all the benefit cf his (the,
Duke's) measure, and c.,airn his own. He accordingly.
wrote to him as fnllows:

Seeserset-pisee. June ft. 11117, 11 o'clock, r.m.
N MT seas Deds—Tarr hew width I received this mains

laka roe extremely that you did not afford Wan ever-
y of 'out to you before the discussion of het 'Right tt,
Ilifferemee ern what Is stated in my lister of the 54th u it
lath to width Individually I should have bad no obfieedoo, ar .-
Otholdmenr„ which, from mistake, you represent as bass el.
km.
• osBian In my letter of the 44th nit. to which I stmts.
I bass eloobjectloo, was in substance thist..—to su:pen.•
iliesegdalthe a ate present Bill in respect to any firedge wise.
Nat ANN he homiedafter the passing of the Dili wail the aura%
lead readiedreadiedtics. Us. and toyruelde, that d neffeemed (I. e. of!. ace
should hotreersceranteed 4416.) tbe provisions of the 11
take drat in respect to di nod foreign wheat; or, In th.
- ' slimy lettu, that' it (web foreign wheat) should then coos
odhrthe re pthmione of the M.'
" The is of pour anteadment is, that et see time sluff the it
idadersithe Bill come into operation in respect to any feeds-
*heist alter the passing of the HUI whenever the price she:
be lidlowAle. • ---.
" Ily eftosition obdrately ditempplates a measure, the ester.
mad Rohner which are u Whets: That the wheat now in bun,
(upwards et go0;000 rafters) should be the only foreign wheat Sc
titled to came into the market of country till the price eboul..
lieu reached 1164.—that this price moor attained, the referenr
should muse I mad that all other (Quirt wheat should thettedor.
meddle eggially entitled to come in' under the regulations of th.
Pll:mbichregulatlens enact that it may be taken out idwaretunt-e
of ea limes, upon payment of the duties specified la the schedule.
" Your Amendment is not a proviso pro Arne tier, isatifyieg f.or
a special purpose, and, eeeerflift to ad prekehility, for a eery Malted
that, dig general rigulathas of the 11U; but ft Is a peresaften.
mentitment directly contravening those regulations,
.. dewing thus, I trust. aide clear, .the difference between you
amendment and the proposition Contained in my letter of the tut,
It is only ftkrther nicesury fur me to state the ie.aon which keduc..
me to Ibtimate to you, at the close of that letter, my apptelsensio
that she effect to thch a propoddien would he fads. die 113.1
`? I conceive that you would think it beer net to risk the fat
a this important measure, by proposing any amenopuret, boweva
moth it might be agreeable' o @erne parties, ifien were awareht...
the necessary effect of its being adopted would be to put en end t.
the useesurir altogether.
" The Amendaneot which you have carried cannot, I am per.
spaded, be acceded to by the Hone of Commons. This is nut s
matter that depends upon the Government; and you must allow
Me to add, that were a new Bill to be brought in, embracing that
A Illtaidient. it would be no longer ems in rind*, the meaeure
agreed to in Lord Liverpool's Cabinet, but one.of a very daemon
trcter. • W. HIJSKISSON."
iatinswer to ibis letter, he received one hosts his Noble
firiend, lamenting the mistake into which he had fallen,
and saying that he could only !egret that he found him-
self bound in duty to persevere in the conrse which he
..
had taken. He had now completed a very paieltsl
duty, which he had been called upon to pertortn, ice
consequence of the public discussioa which bsd taken
fce on What had passed between him and his Noble
eod. He would only add, that the high respect
whir* he entertained for his Noble Friend, and the
eitieiy personal acts of kindness which he had receive I
a; hie hands, prevented the eaistenie of any other feel-
in on his part than that of variance of opinion with
ifs. Noble Priers ! upon this point. He to usted' that
iing else existed on the part of his Noble Friend—
(tr). He would now make a few observations on
Ale propositions befcize the House. He should never have
expected that a proposition such as the Hon. Member
opposite had made would have come from that quar-
tet. The House was now called upon to negative
all the preceding votes of the Session, and to disclaim
their own consistency. Surely the Hon. Member must
'n foreign corn
under certain
The Hon.
ruhibision
The Hon.

quarter
had the
.hick she
subject, as
4 not be.tne
grain, of foreign corn admitted' e Hon. Isl..mber
seemed, indeed, to think that the House had completely
lost sight of a system founded on prohibition, and had
determined to adopt a more liberal system than the law
of 1815 allowed them to adopt. That la* never came
into full force and effect until the years 1816 and 1819,
and snels were its effects at those periods that general
coadensnation and reprobation were Celt throughout
the country, both by the agricultural and manu-
facturing interests. The Honourable Member seemed
to thiik, it quite consistent with the previous opi-
nion given by a majority of Members of that House
that 70s. ought to be the price at which wheat might
come in at a duty of 17s. He prorsed as a sate mode
of legislation? to lock up all corn,in hood, and not to
admit it to be imported until the price reached 70s. and
this he proposed ate period when 60-. was insufficient
to protect the holders of corn—(Hear, heal- ),—There
was another point to which he Huskisson) wished
to refer. The HAI. Member (Mr. Western) had no later
than last Thursday stated, when on the subject of the
currency, that 60s. of the present day was equivalent to
80s. of the year 1815. In this opinion he (Mr. Hut-
Osseo) felt dispo ed. to agree; but he would ask the
Hon. Member, if 60s. of the year 1815 was equal to 80s.
now, what was his propotal of 70 .? Why, it was equal,
by his, own chewing, to 955. of the y.ar 18151 So
that his proposition amounted to this—that 95.. was the
price at which.corn might be admitted; with this diffe-
rence, however, that the law of 1815 admitted foreign
core free of duty, and now at a price of 95,. 4 duty of
255. was chargeable upon it—(Hear, hear.) The Hon.
Gentleman, in order to be consistent, ought to have
money as cheap-as it was in 1815, and then corn would
have been at the same price that it bore prior to that
year. He (Mr. Huskisson) was warranted in stating,
from past experii nee, that the renew.' of the law of
1815 would cause as undue Row of corn into the
country. The Honourable Member must perceiver
that the price of 80s. could no longer be sustained ;
and he must also see, that tis alter the present Bill,
and substitute the price of 70s. would be to make
the measure altogether nugatory. It yens adopt the
price of 70s. you adopt that price which might come
into operation under circumstances of great pressure,
when the failure of the harvest in this country should
render importation necessary ; and he hid already
shewn that 70s. then-was equal to 951. now. Did the
Hon. Member for Essex mein, by his measure, to call
into action the system of averages, or did he think it a
matter of indifference to the country at large that foreign
corn should be shut out for three mooths longer? He
(Mr. Huskisson) as a choice of evils, distinctly preferred
the price of 80% to the price mentioned is) the H.,n.
Member for Essex, because the former prig was, in
point of fact, tantamount to a prohibition, and because,
under the o, eratiuns of that law, the system of averages
could have no mischievous effects, and would in tact
be a dead letter. He perfectly agreed with his
Right Hinourable Friend the Member for the Univer-
sity of Oxford (Mr. Peel), that it would indeed be a
very great misfortune if the country oat to remain for
an sodefinite period without any measure being decided
upon with regard to the vital and impurt.tat question
which was now before the House. The evils which its
protraction wtseld create would be felt not only by the
great majority of the people, but the agricultural in-

Inskisson's) antimony for the be aware that the rule respecting trade in finer
June his Noble Friend was was, that foreign corn Should be adar.itted wider
misconstrued his (Mr. Hub. escasional resniations, and prohibitions. Th
[Mb, recolletted. that from Member, howeyei., seemed inclined to make pr.,
dime with the Ameddasiat the rule, apilimpplation merely occaoonal. T
day. Now seeigg that the Nit** for belt lautiod char 7(L. a
rifsed thatatisappeel was é fair price for corn free of duty. gin I
1) litter, Mid t tbeclAuse on. Member so far forgotten the views wt
ald be fatal to the Bill, hbe ouse had so lately expressed upon the cab
iortance, why did his N..ble seriously to say that np to 70s. there should nol
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