Star.
London, England, 1816-04-04 00:00:00

ME:4SM N.

il:!preyn,t4th:l?..l4Edls
it.catilivetgintartrite,davarryanor,
W withoutNlE
liitairry—has condhcied both v. gt rent approval.--Refaeucti
of for higheA re9ectability will be iouud imltspotaW.
I iirtct, pobt-paido to A. B. No. Bit, llorset-strto:, Portman-
_
square.

INTANTS.a SI I'ILATION as WE t. Nvitsi.•
,•
:, healthy yo•ing Wooly', about TS; has no objection
tither to town or coon rry ; can have a g 00,.! recontmendation.
Direct, oust •oaid, to E 1). Nu. 17. Pruitet-placr, Great Suffolk.
airtet, Borough. • •

A C MU) TO TILE PEELING HEART.

ET SOME FUMES chances teat an AJvertisenient
angsge* the affluent humane. both male and female, caltherie

bit-ssed*Wi h power to relieve distres4, and hese, gratified-tits to
lop their ability.— • he wrlier:of paragraph implores that be.
iiivoltr.t a.bi,ytatice which the times have rendered it difkolt to
iibtain. It is not Itioation the tidevrtisir lobate. but a Liian of
.V. 10,. which is. S, 5. would intern with Sincere thank*, if wished,
in the tilurNe I ant Months.—.A Line -sLirectel for ate, B. S. S. at
No.
No. 7 , t rery lane, near Holborn, will. be received With
heanfelt vatitu e; or it any kind person thoulJ. wish to 'nisi
Atliertiset.—The dontition nsmr.l woll he quite safe left un-
der cover.—Undenlsble reference will be riven at to the party
bring worthy of assistance:

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SIX fEEN YEARS ESTAIII.ISHED.
THE Public are resp:ctfully invite's to an inspec-
uou of the very large and•cheap Stock Of lIUSH-Stillt r.
.1144 and ofiIEMNO Mani, now on.aale at N 0.4, the Sour!:
,f•ide of Illoom,bury-tupiare. rue Company, froin'the nature of
then* Mobil :Amens' here. and In' Ireland, .olftr•to the commo-
nly the aNlve .it C.." unfelt cheaper and better than they ran he
4mm:rid thri4tr. aloe miter medium. Their 'Aorta are bleached
under. Weir own inspectiou .without the help of Acid.; they
warrant their D rability aniColocr,. and engage to return the-
hitsite'y elinuld a fauleappeir:
'-coniary Orders fattliftsUy attended to; •
JOHN UONOVAN, Bloomsbury-square, London, Agents
101-IN DOYLE, No. Si, at. Miry. Abbey, Dublin.
G.4)11 dally on 'octant], or Irish Bank Notes, taken lu phy—
meni for litteu, or Ducuanted.

GEN I'EEI. RESIDENCE.
TO BE SUL/./-11Y PR IVA l'E CONTRACT,
A LL ha FREEHOLD. GEN t EEL *HOUSE
a j
JAL GA R DEN, and PREMIAS, situate in St.
Northampton, now in the occupation (*Mrs. Watkin: constsAng '
o• two Parlours on tht Ground floor, excellent Kitchell,
three Chambers. on the First Flour; two Chambers on:lhe
:stiond Floor; excellent Cosbir, Pump, and Well of gaud ivater,
' a food Garden, and menthe: adjOhling ; held on Lease tor
years, front March 2 I wit —I he above Remises are in gn..d I
repair, and moat eligibly. innate in this mos: pleasant part ot the
rowit, aud.anew ive ant pictur.sque views of the ati-
jaceot I o treat for the same., apt ly to Me.nra. Pocock
and Finite:, Hy sleet; Landon; or 1.: Kir.hasireNorthatnpion

1)13,S1 it AISI. tr. J.*. ibtoICE,
tie. SP, Chahar-s,reet, esszeoy-squase. with Coach-bow* •
• • " •• anti•Si able. ' • -
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• • ;TO DE SOLO BY PRIVATE CONTRACT, : 7
By Mr. kiJ 101§.0,. • . .
*Order of the Rsecusois G4rge
A .Vl:lklr.deOalle. KESIDENCE, recently fitted.
' CR,:•"tsp int headings:se 'icy Iti. 114 eltgin,lt(indst ed: roptiin—
es Upper storey, tour Bed 4tOssilts ; tecont Storey, two
eaeril.set Mni.k &unbars a-Ls:env/ kw:, and .Water.Cbaet ;
'lto Muer. tw%nandpia:ne Drawihj itootosi. colninunieating by
rolltad Floor, Eiuninee-Hall
hawk l; DV lug G
Li breasing•Roonl,
ink( Water:Clow ; •in the ifaagurt, booteatie Mikes Of all
.oms, W•ne and Ilea Callan; Area with Vaults, Open
Y arsl,, %sat ti. it, Loacts. 11, .116 t sad Stable. ‘11;)sn Furuntre, may
Ise bass Val:sinus at I. Letlepi .01 •AN/oast.
Its be v ewed!by lockets stick, reetieehrs, mey be
bad IA& &ebbe, Warevieleierest, o•l6:4lsees. .

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on the Second Floor, four excellent Bed Chambers, two
pressing Rooms, &c. and Servants' apartments, &c. over ; ott the
Basement are imitable Ofices, Coach-house and Stabler, spac;c•is
Yard and GuNbssildings, Lawns, Pleaure Grounds, &c
twice', excellent Kitchen Garden wanted is, and planted with
choice Fruit Trees, Greeti.and Hot House,, Farm Yard, 8.4
COM'aittAt Buildings, and three enclostaes of Islealow.Laud,
•A compier... ests te're,ot • r 0...
The ,rPurchaser may be accommodated with the vrell.nsltio
Furniture, &c. at a valuation, and a pan of the Money may re.
main on Mortgage, Wrrquired.
To be viewed by Tidies Part:culais may be had on the Pre.
Infers; at the Castle and To bor. Rid mond; Bull low, Ea 1-
Sheen ; Caul-, Salt-hill; S•ar and Garter, Kew Bridge; of Richard
Grant, Hag. N0..0, Itt4ell-place; at Garriway's; and of Mr.
Rabibs, Wartetrk-greet, Gulden-seluare; of whom Tickets !or
rive/fug nt y be tad.

• RICHMOgb HILL. •
Elegant Spacious FAMILY' RESIDENCE. beau.1,11.F4..
SURE OROIINDS and LAWN by the River.'Sitle, l'-
.TAGES, OAII.I)F.Nq, and LAND. —By Mr: ROSINS,
At ,Garrawsy'a Coffee-House. Cambia, -40
• TII4ISCSOAT, May 16, t 816, at I•tirelvt, &Clock,
ATRULY Re:11101)1 and Highly Adivire4
• FAMILY MANSION, pith ()Sees of all I);seriptinns,
The RESIDENCE and PROPER I V .1 a NOBLEMAN ;
Situl.e nearly on the Summit of RICHMOND -HILL com-
manding most Interesting and delightful Virgin; sereechti from
the Road bir'S Wall moil lofty Plat.tivions; surrounded by,lea-
sure-Giounda; and Shrubberies, laid out *kb boriiidehlk taste,
and in goat beauty and perfection; intersect! by Gravel Wash.,
and planted with the choicest Fruit trees and valuable Ashby ;
Hoc and Green Houses; rich Lawns sloping co the West mow de
the River, aotl commlininating toa he Le wet. Road ; Cokibiges, kr.
A siiacious Levan opposite, with agtetutive fruntage.to the
River, Shady Walks, and Pleasure I.: minds, ornamented Leith
rich. Foust Trees, Evergreens, &c. • A very elegant nekton, •
finished in the Italian style, and eneosed; an open Paa.slion.tunt-
mending views of the beautiful scenery and. winding* of the
Rivet. The whole in excelltnt order, and a Residenc.. adapted
for a Family, of the first diatinction. 'Adjoining Is a compact.
Leasehold' Dwelling-home, fronting the I.nwer Road. At a IlloPft
distance a capital Kitchen Garden, Gardener's Home, mut two
Meadows.
To be viewed by Tickets only. Particulars on the Premises;
at the Castle andTalhat, Richni.ind ; Castle, Salt kill; Bull lan,
East Sheen ; Star and Carter, Kew Bridge; at Garraway's; and
of Mr. Robin*, Warwick-street, Golden-square; at whom
Tickets foe vi wing }way he had,

EMS I. SHEEN, NEAR RICHMOND, SURREY.
Singlarty defoly h".ANSION; nod. faceilent OFFICES. GAR-
DENS, CONSERVA I ORY,
' rtiousEs,'iml MEADOW LAND.
• 13y Mr, ROBINS,
At Oserairat's Coffeehouse,:. havo-alley, Conlin. on Tunas-
.mtr.i.g, Mat 16,18111,u Twelve o'clock, to ors Loc.,
ireeteligilge FREEHOLD, and ianall Pitt
COPTHOL D, ESTATES, comprising

. The wirers Iteeidessee of HENRY HOPE, hsq. ,
Situate art AsT SHEEN, in the County of Surrey.
The:Mansibti is planned fore ratitily of the First Distinetfon.
'The prinnipal Apartment" are well arranged, and finished in a
style of superior el..gance, with correspoistling BeJeliambeis,
Drcising.roorns,
A pobie Conservatory and Billiard-room, communiciping with
the Hone*, which rontakts also Domestic OffiLes of every de-
scription, ample Cellarage, fir.c.; the whole was akered and
proved by the late Ifeivy Hope, fsq. at a very consider-04e es-
pease, and nothingbas keen emitted to render it one of the must
eninfortabie habitatiiios in the Kingdom. . •
Coach Houses for Eiie Cargihges; Stabling' • for. Twenty
Horan, wilds Harness and Corn greims, Servants! Apartments,
Lofts, &c.; Flitm Yard and Buildings well suppfivd-with fine
water; beautiful Lawns and -Pleasikk Groitqds,.cirounispied with
tbrid tog Plantatiooh, ezteniive air/ fine PIN* of
Ware', carpi* illitiben-Car4Os. "Vidied round and planted-with
Ithecheieest *tide Ts*. libeHqnseig Graperini, Pena-Howe,
yinwer-Honse; Ostdelfer'sslatiase4•Bath, Ice-Weil, Build-
inp, Cottages, abet Widow • , tying WinfaCti end.con-
taping %batty Skit Acres.
'Lhe.Ftirchater may be accoenniolited with the elegant Vern&
lure, hod other things, at a lialuadoni and immodiatipawesalen
may be bad, •
IPhrt of the.Purchaselnoneysnalresnain on Mortgqp.
' To be viewed- by Tickets only, which, with Partisan, any
belied of Mr. Tait, hrmywitripet; St. James's. ftrq bikwaniso
rent the Pnrinisesi.ot Mr. Woolfe,Sase Sheen; •ft Talbot,
Richantsndt Cattle, Sainaillist Uniesway's; andel*. Resins,
likarwich-striet, Goadea-square,wheenTirkets for viewing 'boy
ihe bd. -

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HALL, MARCH 27,1818.
AT a GENERAL .MEETING of the Seven to.,
corp. rated I racks of the City of ABERDEEN,
Carvener 'WILLIAM NICOL In the Chair.,
Tb. Mettiirtg having been called to take in consideration the
le to lamb ion of the Hon. the House of Commons, rejecting the
tranfitt-of Ike •Property or Income Tax, under any modification
whatever, whereby the country is happily relieved from one of
the mostinquisitotial and oppressive taxes thus IRn was levied-
-n*oore resolved unanimously,
414rittfigy flel very grateful to those Independent Members of
Parliament wilcrlistered to the yoke Ohio Country.
.
UsttOmitesly resolved.
That the wannest and most hfartfelerhattlts of the Sew*
Incorporated Traclesof Aberdeen. he given to Cumuli, Foolah
Esq. M.P. anti the other isulependent Members of Parliament,
for their exertions in favour of the Country; in particular for
their attention to tint Petitions of their Constituents, and for
their firm and independentpproei: inn to the rene..val of any Act
of Parliament impoelng so odious and oppressive a Tax on the
Country. signed, by order et the Mewing, •
•• • • • Mi7tf.,.l4lC9l.4cottyeser. •

PARLMMICNT4Rr PROCEADLYGt

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HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL .
MV. Armitage. from the I,nodon Flour Company, presented
accounts relateee to thetnapsny's trnstiactions fur the year 1515,
asesyable to an order of their Lordships.
The Sorrel Theatre Bill was read the second tiny, sod or-
dered to be committed.
Mr. Dianne w. and miters front the Commons, brought up
the Manchester Water Works Bill. which was read the first time.
The Bank ASvanee Bill went through. a Committee. and Was
repotted without any amendment.
The American Comperes Corventlon, ant the Crown Rents
Receivers' Bits were read the third time anti passed.—Adjourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
A person front thelidiar of Inspector-General of Exports zed
!moue, presented Returns respecting Flax imported and ex-
ported.—Laid oo the Table.
Pte County Mates Sawa' read a soma times& ordered to
be epsomite/4 on the oath of May.
144:. It9BINSON brought .in the Butter and Cheese Imports-
daft Duty Mits.—aced a first time and ordered to ime read a see
trona AM, tellietTOW.
ABERCAOMBY pretested a Petition from Manua.
naiN.prsying for an equalisation of the Distillery laws.—Lidia
on the 't Able. . . • • •
TM anger Bounty Bill was read a third time and passed.
Lord.ALIBORPE moved fur an Account of Drawbacks=
Leather ezimited —Ordered: . :
Sit OZORGE WARRENDER brought up Aecnentr of the
Agreements for Victualling, entered into by the Victualling Or-
Beer-I.od on the Table.
Lord GEORGE 'BERE§FORI? presented a Petithan from the
County of Waterford against the imporation of foreign bitter.
Laid'ost the Table. • •
COTTON MANUFACTORIF.S.
Sir ROBERT PEEL, in rising to move fora
' Committee to consider of the employment of Children
in the Cotton Manufactories, went into. a, history of
the manufacture.. He had on a former occasion
brought in 001 on the rubject,whieh was produc-
ti*.of the greatest benefits to childeen employed in
;he: manufactories. The children were tallest touch
better care of, and were' instructed in reading and
writing, and were nut to be employed more than
!„Itirteen. hours, a day, when before they were em-
ployed from fifteen to sixteen hours. He would do
ltotarna to th'e master, but he would do good to the.
-children, and a Committee he • thought would be ne.;
cleisary to inquire into the subject. The Honourable
lirtronetienoc4tded by moving for the Committee..
Mr. FINLAY defended Ote owners of cotton me-
et/facto:les from the chargeof cruelty to the children.
vityuw consent to the Committee, bat deprecated.
Ot‘goneles, brim; of the Committee, who were not
uccittaiuteil with the business. •
• :Sir ROBERT PEEL denied having made any
...charge au the owners of manufactories. He had
ben ()May concerned in. the business himself, twelve:
Dease•ago,.and Ito -then. brought forward• a measure I
of the same nature, which be had found highly bene:
"0;1; Oven to, his own interest.
IStn, Ll'l'T-LETON was perfectly satisfied of the
I:Nondurable. Baronet's humane intentions, and should'
het ttbjeci to .tbe, .
Mr,, Cgl RWEN thooght.that the insptovementsfst
•• lanchinerritasi iffeaded mach. relief. 'to the children
eitsplofed itthe:witsottfactsire. and. he, therefore, saw
nroiseceseity:ltir the Committee, though be still would
unt,•obj*lictit: . • • •
shpported she ;notion.
!It !tee.... few words from Mr. Goisost and Mr.
the Chmisaittee was ' •
eptered into a farther detente of the;
owners of coital matim4ciorits..
'T • • • ust.srow st.ocrrois.
" Me. SWANN', in rising to move for the .second
,sbadiag lit the Helston Election Bill, entered into .a
atatiknent of the corrupt elections of that
Borough. ..,
*Mr. 1).1 GIDDY defended the electors at' great
,lenkth, And contended, that this was not a case to be
vtstted by the House with severity. He moved, as
art tuuendrnent, that the Bill be read a second time
this day ',six months.
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Mr. BARING supported the original motion.
Mr. ROSE expressed an opinion, in favour of
the. Bill. - • - •
Mr. W. WYNNE thought there was a system of
corruption whiCh it was necessary to pit down. ,
General THORNTON sa•ils. that all corruption
• bad been done away with, mid he shoeld therefore .
vote hi-favour of the amendment. ... . • .
• Sir J. NEWPORT conceleed,,th4Cerheat s system
Of corruption• existed, it should.* dqua away with
it evWently.ixisted in the• present instance, and the
Heim' 'Ought to do every thing in • their power .to
disci a practical reforth. if they. wished to shew their
sincerity, ift that cause. . -
Mr. SWANN replied.
• .
Mr. D. GIDDY, in explanation, thought thutfiti
cofription bed not.been joie away with..
.The:fiattie, then diviaed• whei theFe were a Con..
siiiCritMe otajority.in:favour 4 the Bill, which wolf
ordered to he committee ao•this day fortnight.
• POLIcs 0111nts.bizTRoPpLII. . • . •
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Very rept
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cOiflOgt
+111,09.
ing.C.IP•
Sines thir
beell Opt
santi•
lied , 1
10441
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he . ailed

dotivictions,
of :acre, ay'
he thought . _
It k impropriety, he thought, wouldnik he question-
ed; .when it was considered that the mat eagerness
io receive this blood-money, as it *4l called, tended,
hi a very materini*gree, -to the injury of ioeiety.l--
No one indevrldoiL doubt of its impropriety, usless
I people wag prepared tangy that the officers could
'sbeconie. in A .
n,iiiiiner unbiassed in their conduct by a
sort of 'miracle,- for, it woul4 be . found that they
. .
allowed criminals to go at large till tieniestreaseil in
value by their evimes, and then tisepgave-theni over
to the _capital punishment awarded by law to their
offences. There *ere other 'mills givett in the form
of reward, whits, considered equally objectionable
and injurious; this was the principal of them
which he should notice at present. There was an-
other thing which he Considered equally degrading.
as it was injurious to the welfare of society : the
great coneetion which subsisted between the Akers
of justice and the criminak whom they were deputed
to apprehend; so great a connexion.' indeed, that the
officers sat opposite to, and at the carne table with,
the man he was to arrest, before his crime WAR cora-
-1 plete. Them practices he could not but consider
were the causes of a great number-of crimes, and the
cousideralsle increase which had taken place migli.t
be prevented without a loss to any party, for if
crimes were prevented in their outset, if criminals
were stopped on the very threshold of vice, though
die reward might be small it would be sure, soothe,'
I Public, both collectively and individually, •
gain considerably by the alteration. There arose
about 6700 penal offences by law, and yet through
1 compassion the injured did not pursue their prosecu-
-1 lions against the injurer ; throogh comp ission, Juries
sometimes gave their verdicts; and Judges them-
selves, through compassion, bad leaped towards the
offender. Judge Blackstone had sufficiently express-
ed himself upon this subject, and when ail this was
every day occurring. and though executions were
constantly taking place, the hsrdened criminal paid
less attention to those who suffered than to those who
speared; till, in the progress of his vicious Career. he
fell a sacrifice to the offended laws of 'his country.—
Besides those he had already enumerated, one of the
great CASK'S: of crithes, he believed, was the great
cost of prosecutions. and it might be well remember-
ed, that when a learned and a benevolent Gentleman
had heard iv:aid, that the Court of Justice was
always open, he had replied, so was the London
Tavern, it there was money to pay for its accommo-
dations. If the thousand cases which were tried lot
year ;tithe City Of London were taken and esamin-
ed,, hi. thought it not too much to say. that the par-
ties had, upon an average, been at the expense of
4140 or 850. When a person threw a man into
prison, be would ask the House, into what a situa-
tion he was plunged I There- were countries and
districts in which gaols were schools of penitence ;
but be knew this was not the case with Newgate,
with Cdd Batit-ields, with Clerkenwell, or with
Tothill-fields prisons. He knew, that scarcely a
man evervittared these prisons as a prisoner, without
leaving them much worse in himself than he entered
them. There was in them no separation for different
classes of - different gradations of aline. There the
eye of the Public was removed, and the power of the
law for a time suspended; there the ionocent and,
the guilty were associated and undistinguished, so
that those who were discharged by proclamation, or
acquitted, were turned out with lost characters and
debauched and debilitated minds. Though there
were at the head of some of the institutions For the
removal of vice, men of distinguished respectability,
'Mete existed, upon the whole a system ' which was
most injurious to society-and most unworthy of the
cottony. He should next, fur a few moments, call
the attention of the HOW to the hulks as a inethnd
of punishment, as well as to Botany Bay. The former
lea considered, as it had been proved, a nursery of
vice instead of a eotrective ; and Mr. -C3lqiihoun,
Who had written a most able Mork, mad •viho was,
perhaps, the only man of his time who perfectly un-
dessiood and explained the proper system of Police,
had aid, that he Dever remembered an instance of a
man who hid been transported to Botany Bay for a
limited period; who had not, .on his return, either
been hanged, or.been seen about the town exercising
his nefarious means of obtaining a livelihood:—
With the expense of prosecutions then. with .the sys-
tem of confinement, in which the prisoneri were only
engaged in listening to tales of the success by which
the laws had been evaded. or concetting plans for
their rescue from *bonds. which securedthem from
committing depredations on society; with the machi-
nery so-well known of the hulks and Botany Bey in
active employment, he wished to know how it cooed.
be expected that • there would be fewer Miseries. or
fewer crimes ?-4The lionottrabk Meitibtr then
sheared,- that there had been a gradual increase in the
aumbersOf the discharged from the hulks and she
Prisons.3—ln the last 14 mopths there had been in
Newgite SOO prisoners charged with various Offences'
under )6 years of age, and of these a considerable'
portion bad been poder 15 year's. Last Saturday
there were in Newgitte..3.s persons under sentence,"
12 of whims were adjudged to suffer death, and
Amongst the latter was a boy; 'whose case was some-
Stliat singular. Ho had been Separated from his fa-,
Mk at. dm . of , six years, and since thit pericHil,
'ng a considerable time, le had either been in
' &col under- the *nest of the -law, or practising hisl
al tride In the 'most dating mintier; he had li
to .P.Otisdrions fait 4.4hfshe4d 044.1 i I.4rSe lianlol
-44 0100 , nvinconsiderable bays and be had
-- 4 IMP- at -different periods.te*Other places.-1
if this youth should.be reprieved, he hoped theflouie I
would oak, 'measures %bat .her.ohould dot be sent to I
the XIII lant,dei int *oily *Mich such men might
hp snide'
... - raesnbein 9( society., .fiotshon
Valestroll
. fl.snielP94, -foe: 4ni sPolloie ll* might 1
ethlitedi thelCepott.ci the. Conunitiel,of 11.1 X. 1
did not think it neoesetry for Marto make any font
• •
itallelki 04 ttl# port at resift., Thiffrionuurible.
44iftfig . ' "
serri tPti_iti*is*
lectlauttna, win futtirnot at a, i it. cta.otnnUttee
be appointed sn.consider of theostate of the Police Of
Cite2e6), to et iba. 4,14,ifd"")kl
laillie ..
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• bir. AMISLET tiiiiiik*te44litte#

Most intrtlirat subject °I) to stal
Police, he thought, must daltNiyaat
of. the House had not hitherto been
disgvaceful riots which had °centred
ins app. At that time he had mirticu7
. and lamented the appearance of an
armed ~ son which had been given to the City9o-
Re itadat.that period Made several suggestions to a
Right Homiurable _gentler-nen opposite, who had
little regarded him. In St. James's parish, there
were at that time I* Constables. These %vete ap-
pointed, but without having pay, and on the taking
place of the dreadful riots, the Vestry was called
upon to prnvide some assistance to the Civil Power:
The Vestry was called upon, and at the end of tour
days silt persons appeared, There then occurred a
consultation to find whether the Parish had means of
Providing and paying for additional Constables, but
it was finally discovered that they had no means'--
He conceived that it would be much better to have
`some *regulation by which, on an emergency, perions,
inch as the foremen of shops and warehouses, and
the second-rate tradesmen, might he sworn and main-
tained as Constables, When he mentioned these
men, he wished it to be..anderstood that lie would
have men who had spirit of mind, aria health mull
strength of body, which many of 'those who r.-ere at
present employed. did not possess. Alter several
other obsereations,, the HOnourable Member, in con•
elusion, expressed his dete.-mination to support the,
proposition of his H.:waitAle Fitena. •
. Mr. H. ADDINGTON, in reply to the Honour...!
'able Member who had last sat down, said, that he
had received the hints .which he had mentioned, and
.that but for the hurry of business, he shouldhaee
long before given him an answer respecting thein.—
The fact was. that his Noble relation, at the bead of
due Home Department, had disapproved of a great
deal of his plans. He was sure the House would
notabink Al appointing Select Committees without
very good reasous, and after the Honourable Mem-
ber bad given notice of his motion; be could scarcely
perceire on what grounds he would proceed, ior he
was sure that the Metropolis had fora consider. ble
OW been in a very tranquil and undisturbed state;
treme means which his situation afforded him of
,ping, he was certain that very few crimes had
committed of any very enormous nature. The
litisou• Table Member had made several iiaternonts,
which he considered as proper for the foundation of
his Motion, and he supposed he had good reason for
his statements. He supposed k was not .necessary
oiproper that a Select Committee should be appoint-
vet, except upon some prima fade ease argieat
iota
portance. He had been at a meting. at which all
the Magistrates of districts had been a.senle'd, atid
where it hail been agreed by every one that the Me-
tropolis was never in so tranquil a state as at present.:
Every means he knew had been adopted to stop the
evils of youthful depravity jri their commencement,
and be had received in!ormation front a gagiltrate
in the City, that scarcely a day pessed without OM-
cars receiving instructions to endeavi.ur. as -snitch
_as
was in their power, to preveht boys from eoinmitting.
depredations, andevr r y step,biwas convinced, *had •
been taken to have them retsernedi to their Wends or
parents. He knew, and he sheutdremind the lionse,
and he hoped the Ilonourable.Gentkemian
member, that thpre was a Perlivntiiiry, which would
be found to be most beneficial :rniasociery in general,
in affording protection •to so many Helpless brown
people and 'children sVho had committed' offences
principally prompted Ly want. 11.: t!”.: Ho-
nourable Gentleman would think of his 11/41:.ti1.n.
He had made to the Honie the fox; nhszrvatiens he
had intended to lay before them, and he sat down
without any intention to oppose the motion.
Mr. Het MMERSLEY shortly explained. • -
The motion was then put and agreed-to, and the
Committee aepointed.
TIMID SECRETARY OF STATE.

Mr. TIERNEY should make what he had to say
upon this subject -as short as possible, and for the
better information of Members, at the commence.
ment he should state, that his motion would be for
an humble Address, to represent to his ROyal High-
ness the Prince Regent, that his faithfuk Commons,
upon his recommendation of the strictest eco, ,my,
had taken the liberty of requesting that he wonid be
pleased to order' the third division of the Secretary of
State's Office; relating to the War Department, to
be discontinued, since the long looked for peace had ,
pow happily arrived. This was what he intended to
' move, and he hoped to establish two points—that the
°Ace was useless in time of peace, and that its :knob-
,tion would sate a great deal of the 'public mance.—
If he should not establish these two points, he should
not think himself entitled to call upon any Member
for his vote. The alteration he. at. present com-
plained of had taken place in.l79+. Mr. Dundas
,had at that time bees placed at the head of the War
Departrnent.`and considerable debase had occurred
'upon a question, whether having acteeted the office
hey was to continue in: his Seat in that House ?
had been present it .that debate,.but he took the
berty at the moment of reminding the House, that
that question had no- cennelicin whateirer with that
which be was bringing under diictission.. The pre
' tent qtiestion,.ind he hoped Members would recnlleot
it, was, whether it was expedient to continue the Office
of Third Secretary of State ? • In the year there
had existed.bot two Secretaries of State, whose offices
were exactly the =Me as at present, with very few
exceptions ; and hethould take the' litletty of remind-
, ing the House, that we were thrn very much engaged.
in various wars. A Third pecretary of State ha
been appointed and the Of4ce held, for the Colonial,
Department, but it was rendered void by Mr:' Burkehs
Bill. Till .179-ti for the former third.oftice-had been
appointed in 17824 the Witness' had been thine by•the
Secretaries of the Home and Foreign Departments.
'The business bad been done by an arrangement be-
tween the two Secretaries, with which the public had
=thing to do as icmg -as it was done at'all ; but it
was generally understoodthat the Home Departizient
took Abe Colonial business. Before 179+, several
clerks had been added to the different departments,
and a great deal of tontine:3 was done at a much
,smaller expense than subsequently, and- it was his
opinion, that it made no matter who did the-business
of any department if it was only accomplished Withi
a reasonable time. Farther alterations had, been
made in this office in 1797, but the whole of the' basi.
new, and every circurisataoee respecting it, 'hewed
Abet it obly grew out of •the war, and that it hail.,
nothing to do with the veboo

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ear. Foe *even pars of war the
bad carried on the whole of the'
there was now such an urgent necese
Secretary. (How, liner.) He wir-
to call the attention of the House ,
of Mr. King in 1797. That Gem
that the Home Department was
iug news, in keeping cnrresponden,
ging the business relative to the
British Empire, not saying Geese
British Empire, and every posses!
except the Due Indies He hat
connexion that. Department had
alm ,e te
might and what with the ecclesiastic;
kingdom. The statements of tit.evinced that there was every ree
theibusinest -of the War Department mieh
by the other Departments. He .l be den
pardon of the House for going sn nuich into deter,.
but he recollected that the Prince Regent had re' 'ea,'
mended ecodomy. Now was the time foe petene-ii
into practice, and as that Speech had expieedha
readiness of his Royal Hightiess to agree en
House in the eetggestioe of any plan of tom'4" •
considering that no plan had yet been sti 71
!Weed, be
thought that the country etooe in greet need e,,e.,,
sliggestions. He begged ni the Hettie to recollect,
that be Itedo per
o ill will at all against any • '
ste, who
might hold an office of which he wished et.
4bN
'Ohm, for there was nrith'ng he hail eee4e,,,istlubc• htihilit
would reit say spina deafest it the deest trend sir hie
WAS in it. He had' a desist to here evrei wee
saved that could be s •veck and he tho' it,,t 1,1
the abolition of this *Office, a very west sum meet
be. spare's' to the public. He had yes
his measure swell he adopted by eveiv, &aro.
dent Member in the Neese, and thover he was
now and then called a per y men, and be wisedleg
to bear every thing that he ! eard en that sfiVett.
lee again professed his sincerity in.
wishing that iseee
to be abolished for the reel benefit-eh the couture—.
He had forgot to mention !hit a printed paperethich
contained considerable inf irritation en iels ,eejeas
.v,45 to be had at the Vote Office, winch had a Kota,
presented to Members iin their entreine ice the
H ,Use:. In the year 1797 the War Office had been
established altogether exclusively at the . se tise gee
nerally .1 about dr21,00 I. Vise expeare i the Se.
cretaryship was £10,850, and elect:ether, atih ye
'sinus codtingent i xpenses, the otEte, with ail clerk-,
ice. cost 40,000. The Right li inourable skatie.
man then proCeeded to spew, ft.'s, 4 variety of state
ments in the paper to which he bed llaiiedt oiattle
office was es :I:densive as he lied silted. -ft'hid bee
formerly yd.', that the tiVar Dipart nett might hive
been .abolished it it had been cider.' Colonial-I).pm.
meet, from. Mr. Burke's Bill, and new there at 4
attempt to ghee. that it %Val no 'ono- a wel butt
1
Colnoial Department. lethe Crl nisi Dcp irunee
Nfejor Btanbury, ihe itnderstnrid, wis ,trod* to resign
hie situation, and, he was ver, gaol that some to
trerechmeht Might be trisect-LI sin -hat dep e mere,
from the dismissal ill several cis: k., ii .t e, -re Es
tliesteit might still co:eitate in tic erecii o the Geld.
niil Department. at n'• celery ..; ies-ele, Arid ..teee
ernolitmente: When it was con.iiheed ,loot e tweet
12. and 414,000w0u1A .17e iiave.l.to the eublic ny el
elsolitiori of the office, when it ea+ reiirilVeted that the
business hid been den* by the Home L) par mew,
from 1717 to 11101, he could net see w'.y .my ,Tern.
bee. ceisld. possibly oppose his rood. He his h..rd
mucriald tit airterent periods re:pee:lug wit Board
of Control, and he wished that three wit a greater
connexion between the Departments and t 'e LI fir&
than'there was at present. There was no necessity
in these' tilnes. for i.eiecpres. and indeee 1w kiiew at.
it might be an...misted to prove.any piece to ice()
sinectfre, he meant by labouring. He himself hi&
tiled to ezeecise himself every day tor an hour and*
half in a situation which he held, and he had cas
,up to the House now and then with a buoJle.oi pa.
pers and Appeared in a great bustle, so that it would
have been thought very Wrong to have taken ref Any
thing-from hi. salary—but then' the cooler, erneld
not be much benefited by every thine that he dd,
nil, that would not have lost by his doing nothing.
Upon the whole, ti did not appear to hint, ,aid he
believed many in the House were of the same-opi-
nion, that there was any reason in the least lot the
continuance of the Wes Deeertinent. And if dm
the whole of the Continental part of the Department
should be left as it was, there would be little lost to
the public, compared with the extra; 'genet of keeP.
ing up .*Runs* a whole useless department. :fee
saving, he was confident, would beerSlY,Otte a pate
but it he did no more than save 4C61400 a year, bk
should consider himself as, pecorming a very meet'
Unions service. The third Secretary w...s merely es
interloper, who was forced into ethos in consequence
of the war—and he was confident. that • the whole et
the duty could be performed in the offices of the two
Other Secretaries, with the addition only of a lea
clerks. His motive in bringing this subject btu"
the House was to do a benefit to .the Government as
well as to the cotintry ; for if the How attired his
proposition, it would have a-happy effect on the pub•
lie mind ; it would Convitrei:r the people, th it their
Representatives were since.rely dispnsee to adopt $
system cf economy, and to do every thing in their
power to alleviate their hurt'iens. With these se&
1 ments he should 'neve, "'Chat an .nimble Ashlult
be presented to his Rots' Highness the Prince Re.gene I
that, relying on his readiness to' coticur in any pl 4
of economy that should be .proposed, they hunely
pray. that his Royal Highness would direct his ateft,
Lion to the division of the office ot.Secretary of Stat.
,'which took place in 1794, by wlich'two Secrttlr;"
wefe.appolnted instead of one. and that, peace being
~sorb happily restored, the (Ace might be put oil the
tame footing as it was in the year-1799."
Mr. GOULBUR N.said, lie was sorry to be tender
the necessity' of appositig the :motion ; he liadro;i:
LCommon, with others, every disposition to prom
1 plans of economy, beet she House must agree with
him that it was a bad economy to reduce-Maces that
were
hptreonddeu &lily:
coofl'
reacdt%g- arnetaAtgae
ut cs)tuot;h et
hiceu
sattir,ty,
ict,fa:ol
colonies at this time required a duty tar beyond saf
thing that was known before; -and a cerectien ot
ogr.ecaotioanbiuesse.s tiviheicld(eanlitadystignirtreithuisp
:tatshaVoldiiicreeean.te_
tirely growing out of the war, for the war turned $i
very small pact iqf its duties. These duties mow nut
of the great increase that,had taken place i;, our co;
lonics. The Home must lie aware pf the lalPf4"
tense pf oar goloaialpowessiout.4l top took Vogt

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be his opinion*. r Committee 14 ~ 4 de on-Ws
7e4 bene . , shernselcita..l 1'; : • . 'anal I
cielnersted a PriOtieb visit bad been long tom.' ettehtion e
I. that of volelotogiettzi sum of money for. *awn to the i
riclions. and frOm a ' review of the
.systorie .$16013t two year
sers, aid the'state of otisi • ation of this easier', key observed
bought that such a praedce was highly improper. armed garrison
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