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I es .101•••.!S whiell We dele. ihed at
c • the ,!encial tubje.:t WAS Ml-
t'.. et•i. I 11. taa•llll.•alcd the Various
• ••• . • • •••. 11.•;,1 :1;,A11111 Nilr.A.:ls• He en:in:e-
-t 4.1 at. their with to act on A fyl•
„ rio•eia. flOfSr e% hich the molt injurious
c •••!s the country. Ile enlarged on
• t_ • th: Treaty relative to Mal-
t I *rli:. h ro•i-ended was of a matins which retel-
l", ,v te••..l toe moil ferintis iii the etc-
c.!•• •i. or which, more properly freaking, could not
es. cured. 11,S Lordthip, indeed. as fan :is we were •
coilea hie remarks, Only rititre:d the
r; i•t•• employed on a former evening. He conclud-
ed try lit. ving refolotion, the ctTett of which was,
a''er 11.1:ing that Minilleis had Intl-erect the fyllem ot
French aggreffion, and incidence, to pro-
ceed tar beyond the period when it became their duty
to make a ci•ormiinication to the Houle, arid that
in comerprence Parliament had been deprived of the
cpportiority of determining how far the points in
difpute might have been fettled without another
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pe:d to the [Word.
The motion being pm from the woolfack,
The Doke of CI.AR I. NC E. after paying time very
bandforne compliments to the high charafler of the
Mrtile Earl who had brought forward die queition,
der ix ed his determination to give it his decided ne.•
gative. lie thought th.it Miniflers, fo far from
being liable to venture, deferved die greateft •com-
mendation and fa pport. Thee were called to prairie
over the Council, of his Majelly, at a molt critical
period ; and loon after their acceffion to power they
had .ellared to the country the bleffings of peace. He
had no tiitncol,y in fa ying,that he believed, when Mini
tiers commenced tbenegr•ciation for peace, they would
be iinabie • o condtiEl them to a fuccefsful tcrminati n.
Thcobilacl..s to liiccefs were humernusandformidable.
To enter into a negotiation at all under filch circum-
fiances WAN an arduous undertaking, and to bring it to
a fticceiVul ale, was fax-beyond his expeaations. He
certainly would not fay th.it he thought the prelimi-
nary articles in all ref-peas fuch as he could approve
of, but when he refleited oil the fituation of the coup
try at tr.e time they were agreed to, and when he
further took into his confider ation the articles of the
definitive treaty, he had only to fay that he confider-
ed the peace altogether as a matter of experiment.—
DNiititters were perfealy aware of this, and
they had accordingly ailed on this principle. They
had made the heir peace which, under all the circum-
fiances, they were aisle to form, and if that peace
Vas mar ei Tally otieCtionable, the fault was imputable
not to them, but ti the Laft Adminillration. On this
part of the lubje his Royal Highnefs was very
pointed. The manner in which the lift Minifiry had
left the management of public affairs, appeared to
him gin Is and fhameful. Indeed the whole of the
conduit of the war met his moil warm rlifripproba-
tion. He was ready to enter into the difcurfion of this
charge as loon as it was found neceffary to bring it
forward, and to contend, that from the time of the de.
par tore of the Guards, in 1793, to the Continent, to
the period when the prefent Adminifiration took on
themfelves the management of public affairs, there
had been one uninterrupted ferias of grofs and crimi-
nal mikonduCt. His Royal Highnefs proceeded
to confider the fubjeit of the retention of Malts as
the principal point in difpute. On the part of Mi-
lliners he difcoveted a uniform and affiduous defire
to conform to the terms of the treaty. On the part
of France a very different fpirit was difcoverable. It
was of importance to afcertain by which of the powers
the g eateli exertion had been made to procure the
execution of the tenth ankle of the treaty. In his
opinion Minitters had made every exertion to pro.
tore the Ilipulated guarantees. Failing in theft ex-
ertions, did they not do wifely in infifling on die re,
tentii n of Malta till fome adequate fecurity for its in.,
dependence was found? Some objeatons had been
thrown our againfl Miniflers for having allowed the
means of nation ri lecurity to diminifh in their hands.
—Alin- the mall ferrous confideration, he could not
And the rmallell ground for this charge. The fail
was, that Millifielas in reducing the military efiablifh•
n)enz. wished not to keep up a greater force than ap-
peared to be offentialy neceiftry for the general !t-
-em ity. It Was to be further confidered that regi-
ments which only could etili in time of peace as a
brit then on the public, were aboliflied among the firfl
of the tett enchments of the military department.—
Wl.ile, however, he was a friend to every degree of
necefLry ceer norny, lie never would Rand rip in de•
fence of any is Item of expenditure incomittent with
tl.e put,lic fecal? ity. He was conGdent that he did
not a ire! t too ninth when he laid that the live °four
preparations WAS frilly adegirme to any com-
mon entvgency. It had been Alit complained of that
cur nasal pieparatii or were not corrdpenelent with
the crifis ot the difficulty arid danger in which the
ee•tillity is played. He conleired that on this fubjefl
hr (141 era...rtain (pinions which it :art slow runt
ecll.ny t-r him to irate. At the time he would
fa), that he would on no account public er
vett private 3111;11,•1I:1,TIS to p.ii, en Lich he
was emir:ions had nu toundati,m in tru..:r. He had
to fay then get eralfy, tfrat 11. e preparations tor the
a,ll:y .:t J the navy ui.f r.•,t rand on tit: fame
le trada:iiror. :;-r :he manning ot the
nivt a certain oegree of ref.;ard was to he 11.ewn
so tile comm. ire of the eo.rucry. It was, how-
ever, rut to be fargrateri that ieamen were much
Too t easily prorwod a I• Wltetiter M-
iro )cd its the Fetter:4l ecartip,:.ce of the ctio:;tr•. or
in tia: natio r.•I fe, vice, fertniell were PeCV•ra,lty gain•
ins new ai.d Ireae:y tin lie c.•lied (a) to
meet new e fingers. His Ito% al Ilighirefi, to thew
the fariaet of the (+Vet vatiravr of rhote wiro fated that
the cr iintry is not rnu in a Irritable hate of &time,
arid has not been ruff-irk:lov re...t0i1...5r in by Lis MA-
ailridtd t- the diflzr,ll; c,,.1
Mirirriet, force the eietrilitivc treat They as e irced
the greaten regard for the public fafcry. Ti eat my
was greater than at almod any 1 •rtrcr teriod, even
during war, and the Wiry War rtidi us to tkt •
competition. Tire norrmer of matures nail reeersed
very contiderah'e augmentation, all,! this was a!
degar tetrad of the Latter:lA defence vi' rip: tail inifror- j

,inee. His Rornl Highners hav'.n;,- gone thrringh
•!.cre branclie. ra?gons,:ot, conclt,ded by giving his
n,:gHtive to the rhotirn.
O. CovkNTRY. in .1 t:•\c words, exprelli:d his
tbr con.i

Lord Mircro 17-,aiitord the refolutii-ns, and can-
at large the wi.ole c,uldun of Miiii tiers. lie
to he dearly tiodenood, that he was deirous
of firopor ;ing tli.• tante of Ihe country from the cable
rf Molidels. He th oyht that the condo& of the
liar..!; G,,rernrocrit had laid a clear and indifputable
ground of war ; but though he allowed this, he was
not propar ed to fay, that the conduct of Miniflers
Was as to eivitle them to approbation or confi-
dence. The proofs of French violence, aggretlion,
and iirfalt, were (If a nature which could not be mil
onderitoad ; and in retaining Malta, Milliners were
'pan-rabic in every principle of policy or expediency.
France had avowed designs contrary to the'exprefs
fpirit cf the Treaty of Alnico., by which Malta was
to he placed in a Hate of teem ity agamlt the re-netu.
pation of Fiance, arid loch defigits being avowed,
this country had a fair right to demand additional
fecurity before the Mind was abandoned. Till fome
arrangement could be formed, by which the danger
of its falling into the hand% of France could be pre-
vented, the Nlininers who °mold have relinquilhed it
would have deferred the fevered reprelitaion. His
Lord.hip, after elfabltining our tight to retain Mal-
ta, expatiated on its rail importance as a naval nation
in time of scar. With Malta in our hands, the views
of France in Egypt could at ail times be prevented ;
hut deprived of Malta, where had we a Tingle naval
Ration in the Mediterranean ? It was of no conk-
quence that meeting a French fleet we Ihould obtain
a fignal triumph, tmlefs we had fome port to which
we might r.zturn to repair the damage which even a
fuccefsfui affirm might have produced. A naval Its-
Lion in the Mediterranean was effential to our conflant
infpedion of the preparations going forward in the
harbour of Toulon. It was in this point of view that
even Corlita was valuable. During the time it was
in our poffsffion, our fleet was for fix months never
out of the view of Toulon, and it was unneceffary fur
him to expatiate on the importance of pofftfling loch
means of afcertaining the real (late of an enemy's
ittength. He agreed, therefore, cordially in ar.y opi-
nion of the importance cf Malta, but he withed to put
the ground of war on a much broader bails. His Lord
[hip accoldingly reverted to all the different ads of
aggreffion on the part of the French Government. He
pointedly condemned Miniflers for not having remon-
tinned at a mock earlier perind,when the evidencesof
a holfile mind were Co unequivocally difplayed. By
going into any detail on this part of his Lordfhip's ar-
gument we fhould merely repeat the fads and illustra-
tions which have been already fo fully Rated to the
Public. Alter finithing this view of the fribjed, his
Lordfhip expreffed his determination cordially to fop.
port the great contclt into which, by the infatiable
ambition of France, we had been plunged. He had,
however, no averfion to negotiation, if negotiation
with honour could be eßablifhed. He trotted, how-
ever, that in any new Negotiation Minitlers would
nut be regulated by the narrow and altogether inade-
quate bafis of the Treaty of Amiens. The treaty was
now no more. It fur rived only in oar memoties.—
That any new negotiation Ihould embrace much wider
and much more important national objets was what
he ardently wilted for and confidently ezperded. His
LordOsip urged this point with cunfiderable force.—
We prole's, however, merely to give a faint !ketch
of this debate, as in two former occalions we detailed
the arguments at fuch length. He fat down by giving
his cordial vote for the Refolution.

EarlGiros's mot thought the Refolutions could not
be for a moment enter twined by the Houle, after the
decided vote in favour of Minifters given on a former
evening. He was anxious that the Noble Lord who
brought them forward fhould confent to their being
withdrawn. He vindicated the whole of the conduct
of Minifiers, which he thought deferviag of the con-
fidence of Parliament and the Country.
Lord 13oxvos was againtl the Refolution. He took
a large view of the fubjeCt, and though in fome parts
of the conduit •f Minifiers he had doubts of its pro-
priety, yet on the whole he felt himfelf inclined to
give it his general approbation. He rejoiced that the
French Government had not accepted of the Taft two
propofitions of Minifters relative to Malta. Fortunate-
ly it was now in our polfeffion, and he trufted it never
would be relinquifhed.
Lord Waft wick, thongh he approved mach of the
fpirit of the Refolution, withed the Noble Earl to
withdraw his motion, as under the prefent circum•
fiances the dircullion could not be produetive of any
advantage to the Country.
Lord SCARBOROUGH fpoke in favour of the Refo-
lotions.

Lord De DussrAtiviLLE fupported Miniders.

Lord CAR YSFOIL r reviewed the whole concha of
Minitiers fence the conchifion of the treaty of peace.
He tonched on all the points which have been fo fully
argued, and on each he enlarged with a force and
energy which faceted high credit on his Lordthip's
powers of reafoning. He concluded 14 giving his
cordial vote fnr the motion.

Earl DARPILAY declared that it appeared to his
mind that if, infiead of dilbanding our forces, and
thereby weakening our powers of refolance, we had
at lalt fncwn them that we were prepartd for war, in
the first initance of aggreffion or infult, and made
our remonftrance in a strong, firm, and dignified
ton-, we would have mutt aft aually deterred Ilona.
parte from any further pi ogrefsin his vies s of aggran-
zem.ist.

Lord Iloaaar allured the }lnure that the army
had been no where reduced that it could poffibly be
asuidcd. Every body was aware that the Militia
malt necetlatily be reduced on the conclufiun of
articles of peace ; the period of the fencible fervice
alio it, minaied unb the war. The fervice of many
of the army was alfo at an end with the war ; hut,
a. many as could be retained by giving them a high
bounty were retained. As to the orders and counttr-
co Jets lonic Noble Lords had noticed in fuch
terms of fevciity, the Houfe would pleafe to ob
fervc that it was not a partial or incomplete mea-
luit confined to only one or two places; the fame fort
• oitiers and counter-orders ,A ere fent out to every
lilard in the I\i'clt Indies, as well as to the Cape. If
At.t;iia or tile other great Continental powers did
I. it think fit to interfere, to check the ti:11 ileps of
taken by the hu tt Conftil alter the figning
of the treaty of Amiens, he did not think it a fufd-
tisnt übjed that we Iluuld, filigle-hauda, coacnd