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London, England, 1816-03-21 00:00:00

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(lardiroghirre), bad Sikes advantage of it to use ex-
' tremble far mete disorderly than any used by others..
,11/t Velifted die ether side of the Home joy of their
I,llldlnech ; hat he neither envied the candour of their
treeee&ngs nor the poor victory they had gained.
The Honourable and Learned Gentleman had 'de-
clared, that he woad not treat his Majesty's Miniaters
with reapect—(re, eel hear.)-liis words were,
tins he disclaimed entertaining any personal respect
foe the Noble Lord and the Chaseellor of the Ex-
' Hoer, ieer.)—To this avowal he ihould
met . • if the Honourable and Learned
Okudemen sot gene further. He had a right to
advert to and to attack the conduct of Ministers; but
it was a novel* in the House, rand he thanked GOD
that it wee a novelty,) for any Member to bring fosi
wad insinuations against the highest eharaeter.lollo,
gestitl7`(Thee, heir, dear,) without a shadow difonn.,
allatilfn, and in language such is had never before been
Ward within the walls of Parliament— (711egraset tea.
jirrisa.) Such language, he repeated, had never before
ben uttered within the walls of Parliament, by any
men who pretended to call himself a friend to the
Home of Breekicire.—(Ortkri artier r Choir 1 eel cee-
dearateeselA)—He had asserted. that a profile*e sys.
Saul prevailed in the Court, which was oppressing the
country.;; thee the, errors of the Steam were harmless;
that. they were only religious bigots; but that there,
was somebody in this country (Ind no doulatoold be
entertained who was meant) who, placed in the loftiest
station, gbactso feeling fee,the people,. nA conscience,
but revelled in licentiousems and luxori.-..(Shostrj
Whether'diet valve a decent mode-.of treat* noel,
Royal Family established: on the Throne at the glo.
rious Revolution, 'he Would leave it to the House to
decide-(lhar, hear, hear.) The Right Honourable
Gentleman then proceeded to point out an, error of
Mr. Brougham's- with regard to the establithineot of
the office of the second .Secretary, had 'been
treated lasing, and filled by Sir P. Stephens. He as-
sewed, frOm his own experience, tkatit was Impossi-
ble for one Secretary to discharge the complicated
dutierpf the Admiralty ; and rebutted the ugunsent
drrieirom the small amount of widows' pensions,
by. !Laing that £49,000 had been added to it, and that
so country is the world' had done so much in liberal
nenunieraticin to the sufferer's by war. He accused
the Honourable and Learned Gentleman of striving
to *cite as ssfair odium against Ministers, who had
.40fleiivosuld so meet the wishes of the people by the
if,* of the malt dirty. After the declaration of this
sight* the ecple would know bow to estimate the
Semis of rte Hasonrabis and Learned Gentleman.
He then entered into a justification of the Commis.
ales of Revision. maintaining that it was appointed
merely for public benefit, and that the names of the
Ceamniseioners ought to secure it from accusation.
Mr. BROUGHAM (having just entered the
House) said, that during his absence he understood
that be had been accused by the Right Hon. Gentle-
man whohad jolt sat down, of having, in his obser-
vations on Ministers, made a pointed attack upon the
illustrious House of Brunswick. He. had been in-
formed that the Hosour.ibie Gentleman had stated
that he (Mr. Brougham) had disclosed his principles,
aad that they were principles unfriendly and hostile
to the present' House of Brunswick. This, be con-
ceived, wis a matter which should not be suffered to
pass unnoticed, nal be would. sit down in order in
give the Honourable Geodes:an oppostanity4*
giving smite explanation.
Mr. W. POLE said, that .he had never Stifle est
of such eirpre,sirso.
Mr. BROUGHAM was then to understand the
Honourable peneleman, that he had net only never
made use of such expressions, but that he had never
%14,d oy thing that imported any charge against him
with respect to his principles.
Mr. WELLESLEY POLE replied, that what he
said was, that he should be very sorry if the princi.
pies of the Honourable Gentleman accorded with
tno,e of his Majesty's Ministers.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, that he was sorry to in-
terrupt the debate, but he considered that it was of
consequence not only to himself, but to the House,
that this nt utter should be adjusted. Tf any-Member
of the House had been giiilty of using suds hide.
corona language as that which bad been imputed to
himself, it was the duty of the House, acting as it
always had upon similar occasions, to have animal:
vetted upon the conduct of such Honourable Gentle-
man. All therefore be would sow trouble the House
with, was to state, that he considered himself as sins
ceze a friend of that illostrious Fautilyi and as semis
file of the inestimable benefits thecountry had derived
f Int it, as any man in the House. His only hop
was, that they would have better advisers,who would
be more capable of preserving them dell on the
Throne I— Hear, hear.)
Mr. BA KS felt persuaded that if his Honourable
Friend (Mr. Brougham) bad been aware of the int-
port of the observations be has thought proper to
make upon the illustrioss House of Brunswick, he
would have abstained front making them—(Meer,
Isser.)—He bad beard with displeasure, and trim in-
dignation, some of the expressions wade use of by
that Honimrable Gentleman; and be could not-hip'saying, that they Vere entirely out of all the rhos'
and regulations of Parliament.—(ifear,hrev.)—Mith
respect to the question before the House, .be really
did ;hick that the proper time foe thecussies was
iabsectest to the Estimates being laid before tie
Meuse; and although his own deluded opinion "pep
dot the imam of these salaries 4 ties of Still
was nn improper act on the part of Governsetsfb Tet
,lirobeold wait until the whole information wee **l
for. the House. He bore testimony to the hi 6 Ms;
speendslity of the Gentlemen composing the Cos
mittee of Revision, as well as tOtheir endeavours
produce economy in every department ; but still
mast maintain, that at resent he saw no reason Sorel
raising the salaries of the two Secretaries of the
and more particularly when the.decreasais
the price of almost every netlike of provision wail
considered, and when the disteemed state Otilarl
country under the heavy weight of taxation was Issi
Elected upon even for as instant. ' For these Teatime
he should certainly, when the question came under
discussion, oppose the vote for raising the salaries,'
not only of the two Secretaries in question,. butulso
of every other department, where he should see no
manifest reason for such an increase.
Lord COCHRANE said, that his reasons for op.
posing any increase in the salaries of the two Geatle.
men in question, not only proceeded from a thorough
knowledge of the duties to be performed by the ae.