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London, England, 1819-05-19 00:00:00

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4.4rOspi table ti.rgiiiiii*liit,Stesti Is
vt~ts is as
ult. of all'ilifi iittat isruirtry; from the highest-1W
the most humble;- aitcr when reflected 011114,
system whith had been adopted towards ra.th,a pl/40, le, •
when he considered that some pet sons coullsee roily,
the lea errors which might perhaps exisz in the Irish
character, but none of its virtues,rit reminded him
of Ora comparison of such persons to the btetl..s
which travels over the delighl.ful adornetwith
every abject that is beautiful and healthful, in °rake
that it may at length settle and feed upon carrion— a.
(llritr, hear).—With regard to Scotland, it had been
said that an important measure had been carried for
it. As to this measure, he would only sayAceipio
.fmtstutnque sit ! He was lifraid, how-
ever, that the House would not give the Scotet
that power which alone could procure them redress,
gamely, the power of electing those persons who 0" •
were to dispose of their property.--(Ikor, hear).— •
The people of England had committed the same
error as the people of Scotland, and it had beers
equally destructive to each. Ilz feared. that they
would not get redress. And yet without a t atioral
Reform nothing could he done that would give real
force and energy to the measures dr Government.
Ministers might rest assured that there couldnot be -
a truly powerful and solid system of Goverrimem, if
they were' not supported' by a House
.of, Cornmotts,
possessing the confidence of the ceountry,t and that it
was impossible that the House of Ceomusems, unleis a
Reform took 'slice?
.couldPasKiss ifte.,lnnAden4e and
support of the people. '',,,Withouttraip*t.:lleforna
nothing would be done, even, respeguek :the Poor
Laws. 'With regard'tik the inkjecity O_llasaiet, he •
would be
sierT'short. The questron,,Ohe Bank had
truly said; was nbe iihthertliefsholilikPay in specie,
hut whether the 'ciiittrnsrinces..or the country would
admit of a diminished circa:lin ?-74(ffects, hear.)
Mr. Alderman HEYGATE conceived that it was
the duty of the Government to -Use :every possible
means to promote economy, aq4 that therefore au
inquiry into the State of the Nation was absolutely
necessary, especially before any measures were re,
sorted to, which; in the presette_ state of taxation,
would reduce the circulating Medium below its
amount, previous to the Bank restriction.
,Mr. DICKENON conceived that a wide and a
broad Administration was the Only means by which
safety could be procured to the country;,,
Mr. MARRYATT complain 4 that the sytem
acted upon by Ministers h!dprOchsc.fd a;goat
nation in that comiriercet oNhibh,stifingtif.d war, we
enjoyed a kind of monopoly. Ile sqqgls,:conclers;ped
the issuing of Exchequerißilis:lhirother qprutes,
which caused the great English capitalists to 'Myatt
their money in foreign funds; .and tender that *wet •
subservient to promoting the tointliterie of other
countries. The consequence-of ;lithe 602.5E61 ram!
sures of vacillating Ministers wat;(that cOmmerce was
paralysed, and no man knew what tbdo.witt his
This state of things was owing to the absurd
conduct of the Chancellor of the &Chestier. lie
had a great respect for some of the Members of his
Majesty's Administration. In what he now said, he
wished to draw a line of distinction between the re_
nonce Minister and some other Ministers, and it w
because he approved of the conduct of the principal
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Ministers, that he would now vote for the previous

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question. •
Mr. MABERLEY said, he also had a respect for
.bis Majesty's Ministers; but he would vote for the
Motion, because he considered the country to be in
suAlt-a state, as imperiously called for inquiry:
BANIZES observed, that the Right Honour.
able Mover of this question, avowed that it was
meant to be a direct attack upon Ministers,. and he
should oppose it on that ground: He, himself, had
always endeavoured to keep aloof from partyLLVouri
laughter)—he contended that he never had joined any-
party in that House ; and he believed, there was in
the present Parliament,- as little party, as ever there
had been in any former Parliament; ' •
Mr. WILLIAMS supported the motion, because
he dissented from the plans of the Right Honourable
gentleman opposite. -
Mr. CANNING said, that the motion bf the Right
Hon. Gentleman, as fairly explained. and understood
by almost every Gentleman who had taken part' in
the debate, was, that the House should sit in jadk
ment on the character, and pass a verdict on the
Conduct, of the present Ministers of the Crown. One
or two Members had indeed attempted to support
the motion, while They renounced the conclusion ;
but he would put it to the House, with all the quail:.
Rations to which it was subject, whether it did not,
involve the fate of those who at present possessed She
confidence of the Crown, and carried on the functions
of Government ? (Hear, hear.)—The issue.must be,.
if the eight Honourable Gentleman carried his ob- .
jeci, to pronounce the dissolution of the Ministry... 7.
(Hear, hear, hear.)--In stating this be did not impute
blame to the Right Honourable Gentleman, but
allowed that his conduct had been frank and fair.—
In looking. at the sate of alairs, it was impossible
not to observe thaexertions,"however strenuous and
however ardent, for the good of the country, might
be frustrated by unforeseen circumstances. Perhaps ,
at this very moment an imperceptible danger was
hinging over the country, which might fall at no
distant period: 'ln saying this, holyeveri he begged
to be understood as not alluding to any Follicular
calamity which might befall . the nation, It was
merely a vague spppbsition of his own—(freae.j.--
The Right Hcm.ffetAleman, had said, this tftC dig..
uity'aridbottiiir Of Vie country* had snftrcijAs ktiffey
greierdeasure real the exhaustion oriits fii4Fesr—
and.he`pietned **think that some oPFortunitf.
been krit of vindicating' the inttst,. asset-sing
rights. ant! ifrcitoZting internsthePalAPE•
hnerefthed .to the tnitur )n ,i;ch. o 40(44
sublectehad been inhumanly put to; deal kx,i4rl;r.
Uhler* of the United s.tets-,OfFai9 ryirg
wtbli{t he Dad ddtti'he 'find stated nOthing.kso trutb„
eolidnoi chiracterjse site atrocious ac; An too
g ltyuage • bat what had all cbis cosh, with
a Commit on the State of the Natioft—aepwedly
to be appointed m bring Miniiterito,the#O, as.,cl"
urinals? Wit bad :it to sftS ofith .he question, un-
less the Governtheist were acCulea oc
.backwarAness
in not eillin? the /oneticans td accconnt for the 'con-
,i;luct. of their, General ?, 'the 10014 *notpal)le
hirirever, had glietelf:‘aOrtilited,
be .
entertained doubts s4ccl! Ximiste46- had nct
acted correctly in the cniihe'MtichltterlacitplEcx
With the likit unfairness of argnment he hsd 2bramliotettipee
,due non-interference of this coutr.ty to preveat the cession of