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ADRaltilt YO HIS RAJF.SYY•
The Loan MAYOR read the Requisition OR which
the present Coat wassailed; and observed, lee most
only detain them by entreating that, whatever differ-
ease of opinion might exist on the subject, Geode-
men would, for their own sakes, hear all Parties.
Mr. Sheriff WAIYRMAN said, since he had 'been
exalted to the rank of Alderman, hihad endeavoured
on all occasions to hold himself from bringing for-,
ward sty proposition. He was always destroys that
propositions should originate in that Cann ; but on
this important occasion he felt it his -duty now to
stand foremost. The right of petitioning was, in
his opinion, the most important the -People pos.
sessed : it was the only way in which truth could
reach the Crown. Our ancestors were impressed
Kith the importance of this right t for it was one
which our ancestors, at the Revolution, stipulated
for, and it was one of those which the House of
Stuart had previously endeavoured to suppress. He
knew it would be said by some, what, will you now
go up with a Petition on a subject, the mention of
which must be an insult tribis Majesty ? He denied
that any such insult would be offered to his Majesty
by such a Petition. He was convinced that his Ma-
jesty must be ignorant of public opinion as to his
present Ministers and their measures ; and it was
their duty to speak truth to the Royal ear. The
proceedings on the Bill of Pains and Penalties was
not the only objectionable part of the present Minis-
ters conduct. Upon Peace taking place, the People
had a right to expect some alleviation of their bur-
theas ; they had a right to expect a reduction. f the
military force of the country—a relief from excessive
taxation, and the adoption of measures for the en-
couragement of agriculture and commerce; but, on
the contrary, we had seen new taxes imposed, a
large standing army kept up, and measures abridg-
ing the liberty of the subject adopted. The worthy
Alderman then proceeded to take a review of the
foreign connexions of the country, and contended,
that the measures of Ministers in this respect, and as
related to the South American Independents, had
proved them unfit to retain their situations, and
would of themselves have formed sufficient grounds
for the Court to have adopted the course they were
now about to pursue. But their bad conduct had
been still more objectionable : he could not for a
moment believe that his Majesty's Ministers had
communicated to the King what were the teal senti-
ments of the People on the proceedings against her
Majesty: on the contrary, he did firmly believe his
Majesty had been most grievously imposed upon.
In the course thus adopted by Ministers, it would
be no excuse for them, even though they should have
been persuaded of her Majesty's guilt; for whether
she was guilty or innocent, the proceedings would
have been equally as mischievous as regarded the
country. But when it was seen what description of
witnesses were brought forward to support this per-
secution, could the men now in office exercise their
power any longer for the benefit of the country?
He wished his Majesty could have witnessed the
scene which presented itself in the Metropolis on Wed-
nesday last, and have heard the exclamations of the
hundreds of thousands then assembled. And he
would ask, if after what then took place the present
men could remain in power? The persons then as-
sembled might be called the rabble, but their con-
duct, their orderly, decent, quiet conduct, chewed
them to be at least a thinking people. Not a single
soldier was called out, and the Civil Power was
found fully adequate to preserve the peace and tran-
quillity of the Metropolis.
.They had been told, in-
deed, that even would place where they were now,
assembled, they not be able to debate without
an armed force to protect them. He was always of
a different opinion. Were soldiers wanted to protect
the King, the Queen, or the Peace of the City? No;
soldiers were only wanted to protect his Majesty's
Minittal• Let his Majesty dismiss them, and no
standing army would be necessary to protect his
Sactud Person. He would Me to know what the
seven wise men of the City, who advised her Ma-
jesty not to come, now thought of the scene of Wed-
nesday last? The seven individuals would in future
deserve the appellation of the City Sapients. He
had, indeed, no doubt but those individuals, bad
their counsels been followed, would have introduced
the military into the City ; and then, indeed, he ve-
rily believed, the horrid scenes which took place at
Manchester would have been re-acted in London.
These persists and his Majesty's Ministers were the
real Radicals: by their measures they had brought
the country into a situation in which. if they re-
mined is power, we must have a Military Despo-
tisna or a Revolution; and in the present state of
the country the first was impoisible ; the People were
too enlightened to suffer a Military Despotism; the
result of such an attempt would, as had been the
case with Spain, Portugal, and Naples, be a Revolu-
tion. In adopting the course which he now recom-
mended, he was acting as the best friend of the
Crown. by advising his Majesty to avoid this evil.
He again called:na the Court to go up to his Ma-
jesty, and by their interposition cause truth to reach
the Royal ear. He concluded by moving a Resolu-
tion, stating it at the opinion of the Court—
.. Tint an hensble Address and Petition should be presented
to his Majesty, praying him to Amiss his present Ministers,
who, by their recent proceedings 'gaunt the Queen bad res.
lend thestssives unworthy his coandeace. and whose sett had
bees such as were only calculated to injure the county."
Mr. TAYLOR rose to second the Resolution. He
said, that after the able view of the subject taken by
the worthy Sheriff, he felt it unnecessary to trouble
the Court at any length. He would, therefore, con-
fine himself to the simple expression of his own °pi-
-Dion. With regard to foreign policy, Ministers had
betrayed the confidence reposed in them by the comp
try ; though they had not openly joined the Holy
Alliance, they had given it every assistance. At
home they kept up a Standing 4rmy to awe the
People—ley refused to reform public abuses: was
it to be supposed that the People of this cranny were
disaffected and discontented without cause ? To
'sprat so would be a libel on the country ; that dis-
comment may be traced to the misconduct of their
s. Ministers had no settled principle, but to
keep their places ; they differed on all p9iats, save
those of beeping their plates and oppreeejog, the
People. Their system, in fact, was a systajt of Cur.

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Ihription ; for his own poi, hh editid no longer silo. ape the toOotry, and to eat* lls in nor imeseill
scribe to the assertion, that the administration of road, and &hated dtuation.
logics was pure and unsuspected. When he saw a i Mr. FAVELL trusted the Court was about to. give
illiport ef. the Oldham Inquest, the 'mete sentences' a bright example to the country. as they wilted*
ilhat hid been lately passed—the packing of Juries— only Body Deliberative that could convey their opi-
the` laying of venues in counties where verdicts were none to the ear of the Crown until the 23d of next
expested so be obtained from compliant Juries; January. The Ministers must now hold up their
when he considered all those things. he could not hands at the bar of public justice, and GOD send them
boast, that the administration•of justice in this coon- a good deliverance! He felt that, on this occasion,
ley was pure and unsuspected. As to the proceed- he was as much supporting the Crown and the Mo-'
ings against the Queen, they were iecompatible with narchy as his father did in 1745, when buckling on
the notion of hereditary government and hereditary his armour to fight for George IL against the Stuarts.
rank. If the conduct of every member of the Royal The events of last Wednesday, would shew that the
Family was to be brought into question, and to be inhabitants of London knew how to preserve
blamed
ce
subject to every indecent inquiry, Kingly Govern- better than all the troops in the country. He
meet could not exist ; it would be soon degraded ; the Resolutions of the Aldermen, as being more
for few could pass through the ordeal through which likely to have produced riot, if the Queen had ab-
her Majesty had so triumphantly passed--.(Ckeers). stained from going to St. Paul's, because such .a mea-
The time of Government would be occupied, not in sure would have disappointed an immense' multitude.
promoting the good of the Country, but in listening Mr. CLARK allowed that the Ministers had been
to the scandalous falsehoods, of bribed witnesses, pre- guilty of an unconstitutional act is bringing forward
(erred against the Queen, poisibly against the King— the late proceedings against the Queen. He was,
against Peers and Peeresses—in fact, against every however, very glad to hear that no one had attempted'
'4z=of distinction in the soentry —( Hear, hear).— to impugn the morel characters of Ministers! Head.
persons wouldhe dragged to the Bar, charged mined that the King could do no political wrong;
with moral, not with legal offences. The Govern- but it was absurd to say that he could not commit a
roent would be' despised, the country would be de- moral offence. He had agreed with the policy of
moralized. Such, however, was the precedent which Ministers in carrying on the late war, which was one
Ministers attempted to establish ; they had brought of extermination on the part of the enemy, and of
much misfortune upon the country ; they had dos- salvation on our own. But he could not praise their
graced the King; they had degraded the Peerage ; policy since the peace: and therefore he would not
dsey had insulted the Representatives of the People.— agree to the Resolution without the omission of the
(Cheers).—Their administration was, in fact, nothing word *4 only."
but a system of mal-administration. Discontent and Mr: T. N. WILLIAMS thought the present Minis-
misfortune followed close upon their measures; they- ters had not had fair play.
were hateful to the country, and he therefore wit- Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN replied. They were
G ngly seconded the Resolutiou for their dismissal. now about to exert the highest privilege attached to
Mr. Alderman C. Swims Aid not rise to oppose Englishmen, namely, the right of peononing. As
'the Resolution, but to complain that it did not go far
they ' could not all be expected to agree, he had
1en0ng0..._(4.;/ cro, e. 4 Hear, heat"). He really framed the Resolution spas to meet the ideas of most
I meant what he said, for hi thought if Ministers had men ; for the proceedings against the Queen were so
'acted differently, the result of the late inquiry world unconstitutional, so arbitrary, and oppressive, that it
have been different ; but though he had done with was, in his opinion, impossible that any set of men
Ministers, he had not done with his Most Gracious in
. the whole country could agree with such a mea-
Sovereign, in whose cause, as long as he lived, he sure. A Reverend Bishop had said the King could
would hold up his hand ; but, he would ask, if the do no wrong. Did that Reverend Prelate mean to
present Ministers were to be dismissed, what was say, that if the King violated his mother, wife, or
next to be done ? the wheels of Government must be daughter, he had done no wrong.?—(Hfar, hear).—
kept ping; and -if these men were dismissed and He thought no one could have misconceived him so
new Itlimsters named, they would, perhaps, in a few far as to say that he had stated that things had come
days, become equally unpopular. He was desirous to that pass, that we must have a revolution or a
that the Petition should contain a list of names of military despotism. He had only taken a view of
those individuals from whom his Majesty should what had been the case from abuses in other Govern-
select a new Administration. If this alteration or ad- menu; and from that reasoned that we must either
dition was made he would support the motion. have a speedy reformation, or a military despotism.
Mr. Jury said, the Court had nothing to do with —The Government had arrived at that situation so
who succeeded the present Ministers if they were di:- prophetically described by Mr. Fox, that it was only
missed. In the ranks of Opposition there were many strong in corruption. When the Government was
men capable of conducting the machine of Govern- pursuing such a system as co excite the whole country
meat. One thing they might be certain of, that was, to overwhelm and swallow them up, it was impel,-
they could not get worse than the present, and might tilde to keep the feelings of the People down without
get better, therefore they' were in no danger from a military despotism ; that the People would not en.
such a change. dare, and consequently a revolution must take place;
Mr. PATTRN was in favour of the motion. He but that Court was taking the only means of pre.
thought no man should accept the office who would venting that, by advising the King to change his
not pledge himself to support Reform. measures and Councils. The Ministers had acted
Mr. A. Baowria could not agree with the nottem• in the most uncoastitutional way, by issuing money
able Mover, or worthy Seconder, in the opinion dry to her Majesty without the consent of Parliament, at
had given as to the general conduct and policy of is the time of its sitting. They had advised the dis-
Majesty's present Ministers. So far from thinking missal of a Parliament without the ordinary corn-
that all their acts had been calculated to injure this kiliment of a speech. They had refused the Queen a
country, he was of opinion it was from the wisdom and ace, and even that a Sermon should be preached
vigour of their measures, adopted in the prosecution when she went to St. Paul's. All these, and many
of the arduous contest in which we were for so many more acts of little, mean, and petty spite, had they
years engaged, that this country now stood on the shewn to the Queen ; and it was high time for them
high pre-eminence on which it was placed, as re- to give the King an opportunity of ewing that these
gaoled the rest of Europe; but with these sentiments things had not originatedhim—(Hear, with hear).
still on his mind, he was bound to state, that in his Mr. CLARK explained, sad moved that the word
opinion, they had deeply trifled with the interests of " only" be omitted ; but it was not seconded.
the country in their recent proceedings against her The original question was then put to the shew
Majesty—(Hear, hear). With this impression on his of hands, when there appeared' a large majority in
mind, although he regretted differing from those favour of it ; a division, however, being loudly
with whom he usually acted, he felt himself called called for, the Court divided accordingly, when
on conscientiously to support this motion. there appeared—
Mr. CROOK would ask, whether a set of men who For the ludic, I Aldermen, so Conoissows. 2 Tellers, 64
had advised his Majesty to give the royal approba- Aphis: no Aldan:an. 210 Ciannoattri, 2 Tellers. 52
Lion and thanks to a number or individuals charged M!joritY - Ss
. A Committee. was. then appointed to prepare the
by the public voice with shedding innocent blood,
,Address to his Majesty', to be laid before the next
were worthy of public confidence, or ought to be
continued in their situations ? The worthy Member Court'
then proceeded to observe on the proceedings of Wed- A most numerous and respectable Meeting took
nesday last, which he should ever consider as a proud place on Wednesday, in the Guildhall, Bristol, for
day for the Metropolis. He was sorry, however, in the purpose of addressing her Mussel, congratu.
adverting to what took place in St. emirs Cathedral lating her on the abandonment of the Bill of Pains
on that day—that a Clergyman, standing so high in and penalties. RICHARD Batonr. Esq. was called
the Church as the Canon-Residentiary did, should so to the Chair, and addressed the Meeting in an elo-
far have forgotten himself as to mount the desk, and, quent speech. He was followed by Messrs. Games,
in an. angry address, beat the cushion with his Lotortc, B.H. Butane, and several otherGendemen.
square cap, as if at a common Debating Society, in- After the Address bad been read and agreed to,
stead of being in the Temple of his Goo.—He could three cheers were given for the QUISN, and three
not repress his indignation !—(Hear, Hear, Hear). grass for her enemies. The Meeting then dispersed.
Here a Member rose to " Order." A Public Meeting took place at the Rein Deer Inn,
Mr. CROOK said he was not to be interrupted. He in Worcester, on Monday ho, at which a Petition to
would repeat, that the conduct of the Rev. Gentle- his MAJESTY, praying him to dismiss hir Ministers,
man was most disorderly and disgraceful !—(Dear I) and a Congratulatory Address to the Qunaw, were
—He concluded with giving his warmest support to unanimousfy adopted. .
the motion. A Westminster Meeting will be held in Covent-
Mr. S. Meow considered the country as under garden on Wednesday next: the High Bailiff having
the greatest obligation to the present Government. Iced that day for the purpose of taking into court-
The Ministers had been charged with misconduct deration the propriety of presenting an Address of
for enquiring into the conduct of her Majesty; but, Congratulation to her MAJESTY, on the result of the
be contended, it was their duty to go into that en- late proceedings, and also to petition his Mesesee to
quiry, if they thought her guilty. It had been said, dismiss his present Ministers.
in the course of this discussion, that if such and such
Th ! Meeting of the Freeholderi of the County
things were not done, Revolution must follow. Now,
Middlesex, which was to have been held this day, has
' he must strongly condemn such observations, which
could only be founded in the wishes of the iadivi- postponed till Friday next.
dual who uttered them--(Leud cries of Order). He A Requisition is now signing to the Churchwardens
of the extensive and populous Parish of St. George,
would repeat his assertion—Order, order! Chair).
The Loan MAYOR hoped the worthy Gentleman Haisover-square, in the Liberty of Westminster, tp
would not use such irritating observations. call a Meeting of the Inhabitants, for the purpose
Mr. Meow must repeat, that such a line of argn. of congratulating her MAJESTY on the defeat of the
went was most mischievous in its effects. late foul Conspiracy, and also to petition the Bins
Mr. OLDIUM would support the Address, were it to dismiss his Ministers.
only on the grounds of the last measure of Minis- 44 The King CHzwast VIIL3, even amidst his sau-
cers, by which they had done more to injure the pies and remoras on account of his first marriage,
morals of the country, and the cause of Royalty, than had always treated Catherine with respect and dis-
all the writings of Carlile, or the other seditious or tinction ; and he endeavoured by every soft and per-,
irreligious Tracts, which bad of late flowed from the suasive art to engage her to from the appeal
Public Press. to Rome, and her opposition ter divorce. Finding
Mr. Alderman Sciorav was against the motion, her obstinate in maintaining the justice of her cause,
which he hoped would not be carried; as, if it was, it he had totally forborne all visits and intercourse with
would, when publishod,hivenoethereffect thantoren. her ; and had desired her to make choice of any one
der thelower classes dissatisfied with the Government. of his palaces in which she should please to reside:—
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Mr..Ltues eulogized the present Ministers and w
Ha.—Let.Hanav VIII. hereafter ant be.thought
tiler measures, which he contended bad operated to so ill of as heretofore be has been. .

THE EVENING STAR.

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It is melancholy to see that there is no end to the
ravages which the hostility of Ministers, towards the
wife of their Soveaziox, is committing on all the
charities of social life. No Public Meeting can now
take place, for even the most general purposes of
philanthropy and benevolence, without the health of
the Quazx being deservedly drank with the most
rapturous applause; and the necessary consequence
is, that from every such Meeting every Peer must
absenthimself who has, «on his honour and con-
science," declared that he thinks the Quzaw is a
woman whom no virtuous or honourable man can
join in applauding. How much must but every
public institution in the country suffer from the
absence of so many Noble and Illustrious Personages
as happen to be in this immoral predicament ?
The Constitution, if duly acted upon, would never
have reduced any great body of the Peers of Engin*
to the situation of being thus estranged from duties
which so peculiarly belong to their elevated station,
as those of benevolence and charity; It is by an at-
tempt tq violate the Constitution that this shame has
been brought upon them. A Ministry, regarding
only their own private interests, dragged them to a
vote which set all law, justice, and precedent, at de-
fiance; and, looking at the consequences, all who
revere the hand of PROVIDENCE caul)* at no loss to
trace its avenging power. A majority of the Peers
of England lent themselves to an attempt to pro-
scribe an injured, persecuted, and suffering Woman;
and one of the effects has beets, that they have pro•
scribed themselves from all public association with
their fellow-men in works of goodness and humanity!
We have been painfrilly led to these remarks by
the proceedings it the Meeting of the Scottish. Hos-
pital, a report of which appeared in the Star of yes.
terday. The dinners of this highly respectable In-
stitution have hitherto been always attended by some
of the highest characters in the country. His Royal
Highness the Duke of CLARENCE is President; the
Duke of bkrwraosa it one of its most munificent be-
nefactors ; and many of the first Peers of both count
tries are among its patrons. On Thursday not sae
of them was present)

That precise particulars :hold transpire of the
proceedings at Troppau cannot be-expected, ewe.
cially when it is considered that no Delegate of any
State of secondary rani is admitted to the cone
femme, or even the spot ; and that so fearful ate
these negociators, of their proceedings coming to
light, that all stranger* net personally attached to
the Congress, ire removed from Troppan by tin
Austrian Police I However, the Royal Negotiators
do not succeed in hiding, entirely, the nature of their
enlightened, liberal, and humane purposes, as will be
seen by the letters from Vienna and Frankfort, given
in another column. It has always happened,* that hot-
ever upright and disinterested the intentions of..
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high individuals may be, they never obtain' full .
for the purity of their objects when they carry
deliberations with closed doors; that those whose' 1
interests may be affected by their deliberations, COS►
trive, by some means or other (by purchase when
necessary) to obtain some information respecting
what is contemplated by the great and the mighty.
HiStory affords abundant evidence that, in propor-
tion as those who would dictate to their weaker
neighbours, and kindly direct the internal affairs of
States who wish not for their interference, the lag
tor are led -to cultivate .w.,ith each other a better
understanding, that,- by their mutual intelligence
and co-operation, they may the better succeed is
ultimately defeating the projects of the Leviathan
which would devour them, under the pretest J
being their Protectors.
The friendly intentions of the Holy Alliance to-
wards the Neapolitans are stAciently manifest. I.A
not kin: boast, however, that rate& on kis armour,
bad kiss that taketh it of! We have not yet forgotten
the Treaty of Pilnitz, and the march of the Duke of
Ilatunswacc to Paris : nor will the world ever for-
get the result. The last long war, undeitaken to
straggle Liberty. terminated in expanding not a
little her extending domain. The nest general
war in Europe will lay Despotism in the duct.—