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London, England, 1829-02-11 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT;

HOUSE OF LORDS, FEB. 10.
ROMAN CATHOLIC CLAIMS. •
The Bishop ef DURHAM presented a Petition frees the Ciergy.
of the Deanery of Bamborongis, and soothes Oesaery Is his Lord-
ship's Diocese, against any further eeneweitin to the Roman Cache-
ties.—Ordered is lie on the table.
The Duke of RU HAND said he wished to avail
himself of that the earliest opportunity of presenting a
Petition, signed by no fewer than 17,935 individuals.
freeholders and other inhabitants of the county of Lei-
cester. The prayer of the petition was waist any fur-
ther concessions to the Catholics—against any crates.
'ions which tended to invest that body with increased
politicAl power. The petition which he their held in his
band was, in every point of view, entitled to the respect
and consideration of the House. It was, as he had
already stated, most numerously signed—signed by a
body of men whom. from personal knowledge, and
from intorination on *'rich he plated the most implicit
reliance, he could describe as possessing a• degite of
sespectability which well entitled their sentiments to a
ievourable reception from their Lordships.. It seal
p rfectly true, and he had not the' slighted hesitai
ti n in making the admission, that, at the timer
those indiViduals put their names to the petition in,
'question, not one of them wai aware of the change,
hich bad taken plate in the sentiments of his Ma-
jesty's Government—in a word, that they were not
aware of the measure in contemplation; but, in his
opinion, that was a circumstance of very slight impor-
tance indeed—nay. he felt bound- to express his clear
conviction that their knowledge of that circumstance
would not have had the smallest influence upon the
minds or proceedings of the petitioners. With this brie
-observation he 'timid leave that part of the subject, and
hoped for their Lordshipi indulge ice in addressing to
-them a few observations upon the subject which the
petition embraced, and that he trusted they would be
less reluctant to grant 'him when they knew.that his
own name was attached to it. Ever since he came into
public life he had been most sincerely convinced that
no alteration should be made in those laws which ex-
clude Catholics from political power:. .No man could
be more deeply sensible than he was of the overwhelm-
ing importat ce of the questi-rn spe-dily to be submitted
tcrthe consideration of their Lordships; and therefore
nothing should prevent him from declaring his opinion
'when the contemplated measure came regularly and
fully before the House. Great as was his admiration
of the Noble Duke at the head of his Majest y's;Goverts-
ment—full and general as was the corifid-nte be re-
posed in the energy and wisdom of that Minister—des
Bided as was his concurrence in the general principles
of his Government—reposing altogether as mach eon
fidence as any man could place in another—she gave
him ample credit for his conviction of the imperious
necessity which led him to advise his Maj sty to make
the tecommendatino in the Royal ape-ch, however
much-that recommendation might be at valiance with
the principles and sentiments for which ttiat Noble
Doke had fierce:4y been distinguished, and whose ad-
vocacy of which had so often cheered and animated
every loser of our Protestant Constitution. Red-hied
as he (the Dike of Rutland) was to support, in every
other vent. the existing Administration, he trusted
that his defection from them on that great Constito-
tional que Lion—it upon the introduction of such mea
sure he should deem opposition necessity—would not
be taken by his Noble Friend as a general withdrawal
of adhereoce, and would no be esteemed by the coun-
try as a departure horn political principles and connec-
tions. However willing he might be to express
his intentions t: us eatly, and however devoted his at-
tabfernent to the principles of the Constitution, he
thought the mot expedient course would be ti wait
till the measure was reolatly before them ere he camel
to any rewiluttun as t r the course larch it would be
proper for him to pursue. lie-evert considered it due
!o his Noble Friend to wait till that &viol should at-
tic-. For tri•nself, he could not conceive any circum•
%Lance calculative' to give greater pain than the neces-
ii y of expressing a difference on any point from the!
principles which governed the present A iministratina.l
That pain, he need scarcely assure the r Lordships, he
would most unwillingly endive, sold he would most
Aushously avoid every occasion of expressing such a
*difference, unless when that necessity was b slanted
against the greater pain of departing from that con,la-
Arne, of principle which it had been his long mad ear-
nest ende4...ur to obserse uniwerr optedly, and which,
the particular case of Protestant principles, he hat
ever etithu-iasticilly maintained. He had but one 01--
Servation more to make, which might be considered in
'the light of a repetition, and for which he begged their
Lordships indulgence, namely, that a he.i the measure
was brought 14 ward. and wheals the grounds upon
which his Majesty's Min seers meant to support it were
exelained to the House, if it happened that he should
be unable to give it his support. he begged then, once
ant far all, to disclaim any intention of not generally
,potting the Administration of the Noble Duke, in
which be placed as strong and as ample a confidence
as he held ever placed in any Administration since he
bad the honour of a seat in their Lordships' 11 use.
On the motion of his Grace the Petition was read at length, and
ordered to lie en the table.
Ik. Grace also presented three other Petition, to the same effect
from 'Grantham, Weniock, and Woritsworth.
• The Earl of LOW:FORD rose to present two Peti-
tions, one from the town and neghbLurhood of Long.
ford, and owe from Goanard; Which he stated to be
most numerously and respectably signed. The signs
Cures to one approached the number of 500, those of the
other were above that number. They prayed for the
suppression of the Catholic Associatiod,:and ascribed,
justly in his opinun, many of the evils that affected
Ireland 'to the existence of that body. They also prayed
the legislature to take into serious consideration the
footing on which the 401. freeholders stood, and, as a
most efficacious means of restoring 'tranquillity to Ire-
land, the repeal Of those statutes under which the
Roman Catholics exercised the elective franchise.
These (said his Lordship) were the Sentiments of the
Petitioners. For himself, though he concurred in the
sentiments which gene: ay animated the quarters
whence those petitions proceeded; be au not prepared
to go the full length of retracing 'The steps taken in
1793. It was one thing to ennuis law, and quite alio-
she to repeal it, after 36 years- endurance. He la-
me/led th .t such a privilege halleverbeen conferred
on Catholics, for the difficulties chat the Government
had ever since had to contend with were mainly Oa
hatable to it. He confessed, however, that be saw for

it at the present moment no practicable remedy the
petitioners prayed generally against the farther conceiTh•
lion of political power ; and be deeply lamented that
he should but deceive his friends and neireloboa. ra. for
* he regarded those whose names the petition bore.
*ere he to hold out to them the same favourableex-
, lotions in which, on lot meroccasions of e like nature,
, . were accustomed to indulge. Thete was an odor-
Mate portion of the King's most gracious Speech for
Mt Throne which did not let such a hope for a moment
Mite entertained. He felt unable to do justice to the
regret b which he was penetrated *hen he thought on
'his Majesty's • Ministers having made tu:h a recom-
sendatien: Were he (Lord Longford) to hold out the
NMI hopes, he should but delude those is ho had en.
.. . , .
Oreeted these petitions to his care, for there was every
thing to apprehend From the extraordinary, unlooked-
fat. end unauthorised preposition. which it was under.
timid was to be made to Poilianient. It Will, as he con.
ealy.ad,t ulteastire pewise in principle, unjustifiable Sut
silo an occasion, and unworthy the Lrgislatiite and
Government of a great country. It should be 'mem-
. red that the disconteot .1 the Catholics arose wholly,
om political causes—fhe 'thirst of political powei.—'
Were that not the case, he should be the last man in
that House, or in the country, to set himsell in opposi.
don to their claims, or t • deny them the fullest and
most complete enjoyment of religious liberty. strictly so
called. The plea that the ,Roman Catholics set up of
an interference aisle their Litigious freedom, was one of
the vilest delusions that ever was practised in a civilised
country—one of the vilest delusions that ever was %et.
up to mislead the weak, or overbear the taufd. Upon
he justest grounds of policy - and expedience the
claims of the Raman Catholics had been over and
over again disallowed, and. upon strorger grounds
than ever they, could be disallowed on tl e pie-
sent occasion ; but, uohappily, his Maje.ty's Mi..
nesters had taken the most delusive views of that
great question. . If he could believe that there was
any reasonable prospect that the proposed measure
would have the effect of testoting peace and tranquil.
lity to the country, he would not only lend them his
support, but would aim at being distinguished in pro•
moting them. Instead of being adverse to concession,
he would be the first to propose it. He had lived all
hit- life in that country; he was acquainted with the
character of its iohabitants, and with almost every lo-
cal circumstance that could lead to a just conclusion
oa the subject. Yet he found it impossible to arrive at
any other than this, namely, that the further conces.
silts of political power to the Catholics would be, in the
words which the Royal Speech applied to the Associa.
tins, 0 dangerous to the public peace, and inconsistent
With thespititof the Constitution." ie had lived in
Ireland thirty years, and he never heard an instance of
any man supposting the claims of the Roman Catholics
who was not either a dupe or a factions tool. For SO
years he had looked on the political proceedings of that
country with all the agonising anxiety of one whose
sole possessions were c-inficei to it—of one who saw
within' it, limi s all that he held dear upon cards. No
one..svas, no one could be, snore deeply and affec-
tiotaftety interested in its harmons, peace. good will,
and prosperity. There was no sacitice which he should
think too great for the purchase of such objects ; but
he could not believe that they were to he purchased by
the TSARS said to be in the contemplation of Govern-
ment. He most conscien iously declatetr, Oat. instead
of proving the harbinger of peace and concord, they
would, in the fist place, came an ungovernAble tern •
per among the more factious portion of the Catholics,
affect the Protestants with apprehension and domay,
and, in the second place, lead to a desrer ate reaction.
They would nit open ad. to conciliation. but they
would open the sluice gates and tide-ways of collision.
It was not alone to the principles of these measures that
he objected—it was not alone to the reculiar farm and
mode in which they sseje presented to the house; but
he felt it his duty, however painful its performance
might b.. to object to the reset ye practised by the Noble
Duke at the head of the Admins.trai ion, and to the Par.
liament being thus taken by bursoi:e in the introduction
of a measure which was unwise, unptiocipl -d, iinjule- '
fable, on such an implant occasion, and unwoithy
the Government and Legislature of this c,untry.—
It was the greatest intiova ion that had ever yet been
operated in the Constituvon of England. In whatever
point of view it was cohsidere d, no man could regard it
AS otherwise than of fir,t-r ate importance, and on which
ever side a vote a as given.the heaviest iesponsibility at-
tached. Na man could say what nsig!a be the manse•
climate; of his vote. But throe was this material d.s-
tenetion between voting far and voting against conces-
sion, that whereas the adverse de:64:n could be te-con-
sidesed, while the ftvourableoae was irrevocaWe. He
entreated their Lordships to reflect on that awful at-
tribute of irrevocability. Tnat was not a common poli-
tical proposition coming font the administration in the
ordinary course of affairs—such as a vote for the aug-
irsentation or diminution of the army, or any other in-
significant matter of detail; but the greatest Constitu-
tional question that could be propounded; and be must 1
illilin say, that it was brought down in .bt unexpectedly,
Aid in a manner more calculated to create stir prise than
tiny important ',commendation rom Government that
he ever remembered; and he must, for the third time,
emphatically repeat, that it was unwise in principle,
unjustifiable on so important an occasion, and unworthy
the Legislature and Government of England. It was
a measure that must fall Witlfpeculiar weight and se•
verity upon the Protestant portion of the Irish people—
on those who individually and collectively stood for.
ward to support the Administration formed by the
Noble Duke, who, in no measured terms, expressed
their exekatiott and joy when he was called to the head
of affairs, after the two injudicious, ineffective, and in•
competent administrations who hate- preceded him. It
was, perhaps, perfectly true that, in the observations
which he had thus felt constrained to make, he might
have been betrayed into no °Min sty warmth of expres-
sion ; 'but the case was one of overwhelming import-
ance—nothing equal to it had occurred since the revo-
cation -of the Edict of Nantes—nothing that so deeply
and awfully affected the Protestant interest. It griev-
ously pained him to think that much of this was owing
CO their reposing too large and unlimited, too blind a
Confidence in the head of the Government. They had
gtitirously deceived themselves; but though late, they
had received a lesson of experience, and were not likely
to be deceived again.
• The Duke of WELLINGTON—I cannot, my Lords.
i few words. I trust your Lordships will
taxlcouidsesayng
my making a few observations in reply to what

has fallen fr >o my Noble
wed in explanation of
which Kt has al uded.
Which h: hat thought ,
wcattr. as far as is_ consistem
to ruilordships. and
discassatg, either the
%name Catholic Emetic
lasessure which it i, m-
the other members of his
save tettbe House; but.
lag .uxsit, these suit:jest,. •
avoid, I taut be permit
ma In the speech of Joy
•Ilich naturally Newell
the notified intentions
such as my Noble Relation
condemn in terms saystr-
r even hinted, any se;
el the various evil. whicl
fee. admitted the ravels.'
has cautiously abstained
:of any thing like a rease4ll
Now surely, my told.,
for what we have done,
stand still and look on,
ships what he would
tranquiliisiag Leland.
he nor any body could
different from that wi.
lay before you--(Cheers)
plains loudly that 1 hr
I beg his pardon; I hi
repeatedly declared in,
Catholic question setti
have been more distinct
of that w ; and is i
person entertaining it .
opportunity of pioposit
over and over again.l
wish ? On this pare
made up my mind,
take a particular emir

liar as a matter of taste
acted upon the deteimit
affirmative upon this
as Government, should
Noble Relation knows,
year 1810 the several _
country have been formed
vented their ever proposini
adoption of any measure -
tholies. In order to
acting as a Government,
was, in the first place,
elitist individual the
duty, and the mosty.sacres
necessasy, l say, that
to see the qu -stiosis •.
footing, before the entire
could regularly be brought
Parliament. Now, untk
amuld it be proper
upon the subject until
and August last I had
con,ideratmn ; and
and blame me for ni
that sime and the cs
sion ? Was I at hoer

ject until I had thieq
question? I wish the
put himself in my si,
any disclosures on the
or govern on such psi.,
in their collective capaci
Your Lordships must
should have been
older to determine
guilty of improper cone,
gain when it was I w'
mend upon the pritici
Lords. I can with
that I did not receive
had so recently appt,
way of making my
Lord', I might
the observations
fl•ction, I cannot hi
afforded me this ,
ultich, even without
unt.eces•ary explam
than one. been said
tui,ject r f the Rom&
hell, f that no mea,ul
meat this Session. 1
wrote the letter cert
lication; and I this/
address letters again.
that letter, or in a(
there was the sligl
I had any other w
permanently settled,
Lord FARNHA
say communication
Make, though he ms
an extraordinary chant
the communication
people of England _
Noble Duke expressed
in the thrn existing ,
of the Roman Catholic
eidered. It was there(
Noble Duke had no ;
ire affecting those
Parliament, and it
it those terms:
The Archbishop
have some Petitions
before presenting them
se perlorm-1 wish
falsehoosOvsbich has
me—a falsehood
opinion on the subject
Lords, ever since I
your Lordships K.
conviction of my mind
Catholics to any ilia(
did (tom an honest
might be used to
the pattial subversion
•cruntry. I confess,
any recent occurrences
on the contrary, I
of the Protestant p

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Me Relation as the esioss bench,
if r-me of the circomstances t 3
Notwithstanding t ie remarks
proper to make, I roan motes.
sistent with the eat lanaticns due
d to my own chareceer. to avoid i
matter generally known by the
,mancipatinn." or the particular'
•
Iy intention. in concurrence with
his Majesty's Government. to pin-
ut, even at the hazard of 1441 A h- eft
s. which I should otherwise gladly
skied to make a few observations •
• ,
y Noble R.elation ; and the first
Nits itself t 4 my mind is this— if • .
of myself and my colleagues is I
lation f•els himself called upon to _
strong, why has he not purposed. . 4
ensure of his own? He has telkad , ; j
itch afflict Ireland; he h ,s, these- ...
1
!fusty of a decided cams". butte ;, .
.ed from the slighrest sogge•tion
remedy for those varjo..s 4 Vill• ! 'I
.1
Is, when he comes and blas.es its'
me. and admits that we cannot i 1 • -
s, it behoves him to tell yoor Lord.
.
recommend •for the purpose of . , ,
~ I. I humbly submit that re utter •r
J have made to you a proprotti a 1 ‘,
IbiCh we have felt it 4ur duty to • t 4
•
rers). My N•tble Relation cow.
• .1
save been guilty of concealment. . .
have concealed nothing. I have
my earnest wi•is to ire the Roman
tied. I believe nothing could ever '
net and explicit than the espre•sion
it a matter of surprise that the
t should avail himself of the first !;
using the adoption of that which, •
he declared himself anxiously to 4
i
•ticular question I hal long ago •
,as a member of this Hoot', ,to i i
arse. It may be thought petit. i
taste; but, fur many teats, I have
ominarion never to vote *fur the 1
question until Government, acing i
ild propose ifto the legislature. My t
rs, or ought to know, that since the
al successive Governments of this I :
.11
nßird upon a principle which pre. ' !
proposing, as a Govkrnmentr the i i
Mire if relief in regard to the Ca. 1
the formation of a Cabinet which, .
lent, could propose this measure, it .
cc, necessary to obtain the cim exit
e most interested by hiii,l!.at‘on, his •
!sacred of Al oWigalns—it was
I that individual 'Smold be b:cu At . . ,
a its proper light and o i itsproper- i
niir.e which we have recocntrien led
brought under the consiJciati.m of
under such el:commences as thee, !
• that g shisold• breathe a syllable • ''.
ii after I had that consent? In July li. '
i
ad the subject most sarioudy u i ter , 1
are Noble Laid, now to get up . i
11 1,
not speaking openly of it betwero
tomusencement r f the present Sts- I
ay to talk to arty Inoill on the sub-
quivocally obtained the consent in
• .1.
e Isisbre Lord wt u d for a nriment
ituation, hoar he c oild halve ma-le
he subject till cnnsent was mit lined.
aincipies as admitted of the r .c ing
ipacity upon the Catholic question. I
Ist see that, had I acted otherwise. I
highly blameable; accordingly, in I
e whether or not I have been
concealment, it is necessary to slicer- 1.!
was authorised tn form a limpet n- . !
Iciples of which I have spoken. My • i
most peifect sincerity amnia. pit.
Ire that permission till the g-ssion :
.
poached that I possessed nis nther ''4
iy intentions known. Trough, my
, s
first have appeaieJ to complain of
f my Noble It lati•to, yet, oil re-
lot feel thankful to him fir having
opportunity ol stating pub ic!y that I
to censuses, might have proved no r
nation. It Las, in mwe cpastees
• •
I that a letter is fittest by me on the 4
lan C.tholic claims had kJ to the ; .
.ore V. (.uld be halos:geed by (intern- .
It authorised no such i..lei rote. I
rtainly. I did not intend it for psth-
ill take case hoe-, axid to whom, I
ia. But I totally deny that either in
any thing else, said or Joffe by me,
ghtest warrant fur the asseriion that
,ish than that of seeing the question
J. •
t M said, that he did not object to
n the Noble Duke thought ',toper to i...
must say it was made through rather
hannel; but *hat he said was, that
sn alluded to tended to throw the
I off their guard, inasmuch as the
ssed himself firmly convinced that, • • .
g state of public opinion. the question
holic claims could not be fairly tor.
nerefore actually concluded that' the
so intention of originating any mea-
e claims in the pretent Sessicn of
t was therefore that he alluded to it
3 of CANTERBURY—My Lords, 1
IS to present to your Loidahips, but
them I have a very impost; t duty
hto give a fiat contradiction to a
Is been widely circulated respecting
which imputed to me an alteration of
eject of Roman Catholic Claim. My
I have had the hot Ker of a s at in
House I have voted from the clear
mind against the admission of Roman
notated political-poser, arising as it
st aeprehension that that admission
the ceitaio injury. and possibly to
si•in of the established church in this •
is, my Lords, that I see no grounds in
ences to allay such apprehensions, but • 1
I see every reason why the eupporters
psi! iiplet should look with more than
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amid auks, td the *skies state of its iatterests. Ido
art etmettildt:s be the proper time fortlnfetioX into,
a general • of the whole confirm, and Ike?
fat* i hat* Merely confined myself to tAit
dead a iitielbievoes falsehood: which, injustice to my:
self, I felt called upon to make. I protest argentin tire
imputetion of having altered sty vl,pioris on thit
proirsiegibstit, iii befog ht .
• • ifitisitiets? to mrchsrretter, and destitute of the slights
f .30,409. in truth.
• Ilkit DOA thief prevesititi Peddesithise. thilrehdsscon sod
Olifri,Divesse ot otot'soOrb.a4aloic Miter esneevvion to
Visit Cothislo i slisderr. le tios saa‘alibiciansi did Arch'
- sag Own of Ow &at Riding of If re ; wed alaithr
1* " holm% ilWairgy. tM 'Mom, of Meant. in Ireland,
•stitlk wore aivotillerwitt, sad (Wand to Ho okthi
• • .The Bishop-of LONDON presented a Petiiiori from
the Dean and Chapter of the Diocese of Chester, pray.
• lag their Lordilwips sot to grant such concessionito the
Catholics as would endanger the Conititution, and at
'the same time expressing a wish to grant their Catholic
'-'fellow subjects alt the provileos of the Constitution, if
•it could be date with sufficient security. In this wish
Ise begged to state to their Lordships that he cordially
cascurred, though he could not entertain any hope that
it would be fulfilled. He would take that opportunity
• of stating, though it was not the proper time for deli-
.. tering any opiutons as to the measures to be proposed,
that after a careful examination of the question, though
it bed been said that he was friendly to the admission
of Catholics to political power, his sentiments on the
subject had undergone no alteration. He had atten-
tively examined the question with a thew of finding se-
ankles, and it was with regret that' be was obliged to'
. declare that he bad been unable teilevistany securities
. which satiikd his mind that the Catholics could be
admitted to pOssess political power,iith safety to our
C.sdstitation in Church and State. At the same time,
-he hoped that in stating this opinion he 'should not be
thought to imply a censure on any other persons. In
the discu.sions which were to etone on this question,
•• the r Lordships would be required to controul their
-personal feelings. which were too often excited on sub-
•j cis r f such a description. He hoped theii Lordships
would do one another justice, and not astribe to each
•other a ty other motivea 'than those which were per-
fectly pore, giving one another credit for their inten-
tions, and rensembethig that it was quite consistent
• with the most perfect• unity of intentions to adopt die.
Went measures as most proper to carry them into exc.
.eution. •

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The Bart of ELDON presented Petitions against the Catholics
ff Pfahnibilrf. and a glace in Deubigh4dre. •
IfotO IiRDWD4LIit presented similar Petitions frenLarivral
'platesla Carenstuseosaire. Whets their Lordships wore told, his
''Literi.hip observed, that they seer, to open their arms to a Pestilent
heresi in consequence of tie threats that hold been held out. it Was
• film thrpnening to blow out a man'. brains unless be allowed himself
to 'Abed. Looking at the measure to be proposed in this light,
he'ibould oppose them all.
Esil TALBOT ero'sented several similar Petitions from places in
Staferdshire. • ow •
. Tbs Duke of RICHMOND presented a similar Petition from
the Ptotesurti Dissenters of. Providence Chapel,. Chichester.
of LANSDOWN, in rising to present
sOmk petitions of a different description, begged to state
. i
that ,he, concurred fully n the opinion of the Noble
Thike oppOsite, that the measure should prOceed from
'the 0 vet 'lntent, .beCatiu that alone held cut the eel-
taineithat the benefits which were expected to result
from it WOO., be obtlined by that unity f purpose*.
carrying it into e ect which was indispensably necep.'
erY,O Obtain the benefit.. rt atomised. He was glad.
k• • ;het 'OpPortuuity.,r declaring; that ip all the
TAR. be bad 'vet given on tl* subject, fie hitcl ever done
lei wills a view of totcing the Government—he meant
a'CensiitatiOnal manner—Of tinging the Government
..rta'kt that nteasuie into their bands; the settlement
which lie, with many others, regarded as essential to
:the. tranquillity of the empiee. WI bout entering
)p ti vii pie ..subject, 1* am.; state that it
sitarS,nin possible to Infirm any measure of .;hat hind.he-
rtie Parliiimet.t iri a inlidier more consistent with the-
Prie e;ples of the .Con.tituTion, and more convenient t•
than by a recommendation in a Speech
trOM the Ths..oe. The Noble Lord had said be was
surprised. but he was afraid he confounded his own
leelings of surprise with some surprise which be sup-
isOsid had been, attempted on Parliament, It was ins-
psible that a.' communication of that. kind could be
.hrOstelii before Paihernent in a bitter manner_ than by.
teS.etfch from the 'ffirOne ; and ,impassible that it could
eiter 'aside than on the very. first dayof the meeting
of Parliament. It wis inipossible aim that • any. mtge
c-miessietst method cr itld be fciund than one which made
known t' the sentiments of Government on
'every branch of the question ; and which, before ell'.
ing on Pitliament to pass any Tote, or come to any R-.
!dation, Or. agree to any measure of detail, placed the
whole ,u'sject. On which they might be called to Tote,
Or Come to a Resolution, or agree to a measure, dining
the SessiOn, fully arid fairly before them. He could not
staid th. re and heir it assented that the mode of pro-
eeeding as to these miegintes was calculated.to take
P.srliarr.ent by suiptise, or was. at all peculiar,. wl.e t in
hi.s 'view, that mode was the most constitutional and
most convenient which could be employed. . Lord•
Cinp then presented. *seral petitions in favour of the,
atholics. •
The Seel at LONGFORD. on presenting a Petition to the
coloiary effect !ruin Cinnurf, remitted, that the difference of the
petition* only showed she various opinions of those wfto cipPosed
and etplbeld the C..thoUe Claims.
The Marquis of 1!A NS DO W N presented a Petition, numerously
mead by Prokestant Inhabitants of Nimrod', in favour of the Ca-
thriiic CUM*.
toot PA RN ANI presented thirteen Petitions front different
parishes in. Ireland, against the Catholic Caainsw•
Viscount CLIFDEN rose to present two PetitiOns.
He bad presenteJ some hundieds on tfielarne subject,
bet he hoped the. time was fest arriving when the corn.
planes on which they were grounded would be full)
and eonsOetely silenced mid redressed. •Ife stished in
the amplest manner to express his theilki to the NnWe
Debi et the head of his hiajeity's Governnietit tor the
signal wisdom and StateimAn.like ton. act and fit Main
which be bad displayed so eminently in this insiatiee.
411te .Egret was, this was r.dw become snore ai PrOteitaitt
than a Catholic question. Great rake was findateted.l
doe to those Who; 'Wit they had held office, had tri4eci
in the ratrisof liberality; but still greater, he felt, Was
the owed of such es.; having formerly expressed theta-
iehies is teProtiation of theMilaitire et Catholic ins sn•
cipation. had now, in compliance slid, guest sincere Cim-
trictiad and conseeluent alteration of seed:den; rih this
impale& subj et, etpiessed themselves in falour of
these claims-they had foiiiierly resistkel. For Ike manly
avowal of his altered santinsehts he lilt few Mort en-
titled to ti e publie thainki thin !the President of the
Coptic*. Rut, above all men, he most consider the
Right Hon. Seirretary for the Hoinespepartnient Mint
*added to commendation; whilst it its singnlat
ereigh to observe, that for this poshieworthy c• niitct
that Right Haboorable Gentleman had brought chten
do Ike *bole volumes of abuse, caluitinler, I es; and
noissinse, ikons the part of the Press oppesed to hills ill
se4Stimeet, Of shin Right HbnOnsib•c Gehtlemanhb
kl ew COabins personally; his praiie, theiefore, slat
Noyes dal ; Ind he co** sot help debouncins hest.l ea
•. . • - *. iv . •

being thus made
hing publications
that In all oirc.
tultin occurred,
haditated in his
PosOrs that Inelt
inmille "'pits
Honourable tiontlema. sem.. tendered
Hof f sit 'wesitot aecentint. but- that tits Grace- it -the-
head of the Government hid the address to inducts
him to remain in the Cabinet.. He hoped the Right
)litinourable Gentleman would exactly treat with the
ismeccintempt as he himself had done'the cvlemnies
of theblitkguard Papers whoefiarged Mai wi4h drasi.
ingso,ooof. a-year is an absentee out of. Ireland. and
not spending SOL in laugh). But *there was one
questioif he would wish to put to their Lord Ships....-
nem*, bow was the Legislattire get otti*of the dot
&Av. if the question of Emancipation were not 'con.
ceded ? It was doubtless the question would be Carried
now in the other House by an overidielts4g majority
SUppose they refused and threw it out, and induced
the Noble Duke to resign i whit wbold be the shock
sustained eltetiterifroin this (recurrence?. Its effects
would not be confined to Ireland: already thonsinds
of rounds had been sulisciibed in the cause by the peo-
ple of Anemias, where there were thousands and tens
of thntiiends of Irishinen or deicendants'of Irishinen,
who could not but feel interested in the fate of 'their
parent cemiAry. It would be insane in their Lrsildiips
to persist in their' opposition, for the 'Amities's States
would not, 'be believed, hesitater° send both arms And
med in the same cause. The newspairevs.tisserted that
the resignation of the Right Honourable Member Rif
Oxford had heeneccepted: be bad it from goo au-
thority k was not the fact; butt. if it were; he vßonld.
assert that no decree of that University.bad ever been
to disgraceful to it since` t)te pissing of that infamous
decree of 'theirs in favour. of divine right and passive
obedirnae, which was publitly buint by the contexts.
hadgnian... He verily believed. if drawn into the snare
laid-for theni, it woof(' oal7 be throsigh the medium of
dtiotitlying parsoni; who knew nothing .at all of the
iheasere—(Laughing).
Led YARN HA M ;irrigated Petitions frogs the:parish al fit.
404 in the city of Dublin f from RQtiangso, in the County of
Kildare ; Moyes, in the county of Wicklow; led is parish la Obi
canny of Loa* spinet . any. farther concessions to the Replan
Catholics.
• Ulan ItaatiIINTATIVI PERIL . • •
' Lord FARNHAM Ibis. in Pacoima:l of the 'had*
glven yesterday.- rose' to prentbt die 'Pahl= of *bailie Caitle•
aphis& the return of Lott Dint*, as a Representative
Peer for Ireland. The petition contained a great aillabet M Al-
gatiocis of irregularities in the suedes of rearr:tlse votes eit the
elecilan ;. Milks Would Dot enter into thesis, is the Hasse would
btu' it read throe. by tie Md. Ho should •at present
' merey
l
mote • " That it should lie oa • the .Tahle; a/ this was &rant
Petition, dgar the UlOOO, aphis the-reigns...l wry ileptestuna.
the 'Peer and therefore it was a• case Ass ',required pow
&ration; Imitate it Was deo:imbed
.sei;al caws, to pursue: get'
Petitlin we* then read. • • . r •

• Lord FARNHAM moved that it -BMW he milk'. 'bike _ ',•
. Lord-HOLLAND reeked whether the- Wahlf•Lerd iniumtlel to
eve that it Mould be taken IpuLealwidelletingllelli akdt Oart
Lord FARNHAM replied, thei ityai. lea Impellin te tie mkt
deetiest sitting of tbi Hodst.
The LORD CHANCELLOR .tar, thifi'"liihertistamoteit 11;
CPS notice _ for Thursday. Meamikilt, bildrelial'em the agents,
the Feder attend trn him, and gefisseegitate-reterne, In.
eidti'that they ml at pilot me the epecibc übjecdons due weal
intended' to be niade to the Votes, as' train Whet be had already
sees, he believed that moot of them werelesteitoded: • . r•
Lord
,IYA UNH4I hl gape WACO, that ea Ilintedat becertainly
should move that the Peed°. he taltme hem pegshiprstien. • •
The 1-ftrueethei Ailialmied at a qa,AlollMeneern lionot, all
I"barsday. • .. • . . . ..
- • • • HOUSE OS'
.cpithitii4.:. •
* The Galleiy was irowdail at battiest three, sod Abe-. Seasuga
took his seat at a qtraite4 to tier ti'cloik: GreAltsterest appealed
to have been eretuM by thei'espnieStilichesieit 'et Me. mogr.
measure for the soppremise et 'tits Calliellf astilimistil/2.6, ill'
Maks ceding to .the parry were comaletells eletalPil• alter taw
Gallery Wee filled.. . • .. ... .' -, N.. - • - •, . .'
• Tbe Edinburgh Gas. Tight Company 11111 wag lem4 a Arm time.
• • cietteue rums.
• Sir IL INGLIS presented , Medals- agelast'letteting' tinier
concessions to the Roman Catholics from Miediewiad, seenien
etremleY, and Burge LIORITIL in Torkalenevotdered se trek
the table.
. , Similar Petitions' were presented b teed C. ialfirtie trait
the Dean and Charmr of s-Church be Zhg -161 fellatio' Clergy
in talwfal of the foie of Ely ; and fres the • Optilluegesies,
of %Mock, in Shropshire. -
Lott G. LENNOX presented Medlar Mame dee be. ',
habitants of Iloignrii, iti Susses, ant Iran the ' Cemi-
gresaties-of Providence- Chapel, in Chitheiter: ' 4 - . .
Lord EASINOR presented it. Pathless tram the Indumpses
of Hertford, praying that measures May be taken for the Pioneer
Hoe of the Sale of Cyder without Lieenes.—Qrdeted to he as 4110.
utble.' . .... 1..
Colonel POWELL presented a"Petielos from the Inhailiseie •
of Llanelli's, Carder, whist the /tame° Catholic Cialmellt.
dared toll, on the table. •'. ' •'
' .
Wr THOMAS GOOCH. pretreated lithit,lat Petltiati (feat Ma
Mee of the 'Arcledeicart ce Sudbaier* Tiii ion. Rennie' said
he felt it his duty to mate that nothing hied happened line the die.
cession of the Roman Catholic questlon'at the led Sessiets. whisk ,
amid induce him to chum* his *Mein.. He felt surpsised. at the
hidden change in the political sentiments of the Right Hom the
ikerettry for the Home Depannient; and, whidever might. be the
measure about nabe introduce by his Majesty's Government, It
eliat measure should be In favour of Catholic frisateeption he
should feel it Ids duty to give it all the apposition la his power, OR-
ION it *WM also contain for the Protestant interest of the mum
try a much greater security than bad been yet heard et.—The pe-
ados was then laid od the tilde. ' . ••••
. admiral EVANS presented a Petidon'hui tire same egret teem
**showmen lateletemesof Few. and Ifemsbal4 ia bolded: The
Dm Metither observed, be co led it imiteeelleb that Roman
rmats teed partiiipete he a -liotaitaat Gov;raiamee, because
. sessui eleat a single Reeeller fillthelli eras ideetted Uno ft, from
dim Mimmesata a Gweeriimesiftwe.essee to be . Ptomain.
The Marquis of cHAWDOStelleipsed asintilar Padden from
:i Barony iu the county of
,Dunegideteeateld est the table... ,
•TIOTIM TO Tel 1111141111T6
- Mr. PEEL rose-e in miler CO preterit to the Itollsahis
Majesty's meet gricioss inswer ter 'the Aaltiti of tie lit The
Right Hon. Secretary toed as follesenteitistiellae6 elide Hite
et Conestorts. 1 bees received., with the highest smisfasdsio, your
loyal and dutiful Address., 'Filigrees object of nor We has bete
to punitive the welfare and hippies...sof apypeople, audil.eglit !Bib 1
ClAlehlinet upon your' cle.hperation in Awls melaulir *aka sem.
tend to the advancement mid lateeest • eit tat country; aid to Ml'
maintenance, ot its high cherecter among ;he natlenvel thewitidr•
Hi. HENRY HAXWELL Frowned POl** *Wet tae
RoMan Catholic ChtiMi from tit, Piweitalite ot the peettiste At 1
Meath and C.eiran.Laid On the table. '
. ViiCOVOT ENNlSSlOREptesalted a -redden fiiir ileellaillil
Carrof lasowellelfalleittacesaiellootkm4 ' '• "`
KNATCHEDLII gaepasetipilhat Me WelaWhas %OM
day next, the !sib Instant presenttbe rr*les of tbe lifeehaliam
of the county et
the Viei • basil:ha 'lt timemies. Bieck aid*,
further ctieweisiges to e Rends illithella. - - .
air. CALVIgetT aseammel a Petition Irani the Sadists's** it
8143,400101,4100 4irttir 0! that VIPIOOII. • •
Sic S, LI/ al LsT pawed rept trPr2
..tere.
habitants Or the cobalt, W Noit :I . , ii la
EnianciPetiiia; aloe a Adams Crum Neenirk•iliah-Ti7nt; e"lrg
same effect.
, laid JOHN Rotsittil.prpipied,i.oriner nations tramob.da.
C.Pitaie of Wii'ail;l_, tali . kid, and FM", the
motets of South Maklds. Paddies went oirerrile4tentiall
ua the table.
Mr. HERRIRS mid, be was Ineretted tro presinst.a Peed*
_trots his coast tat. at kfioritt. jt lot rpe
..iiii far
Ma, liiiripi hid thi lesteter„ etrepresetiting_, flit •
ct'l
Ilia4r:
nimbil of Tara, fa dtlret adtb t"in tre iavg
ilMincipation. bin he sias•piisiiitira the' -i17;134
brought In by hie Majestyle klitelenta Welilil teed to the *Ware at
tOth., a
tlt callan—aktfk Tay Meier, nes.oo bright spend Tld
Ike riyid that no furtherfshaf Mmenaliserkk be Made mite llamas.,
6Ms.
._ ;Ili. ASERCROSIBY 146/Mid:l hitiroii Axes the Leda
Catholics of Edinburgh, in favour t. Catholic CANA • '
. ItZeC US T . pr ips4o 4 fixiii ibs kisliiiali it '
. . 404.Ticimli. iPii, 1.4 BO* concessions N ski

4 1. ft• Woe Int,,pw
1 theellti IV: tweet;
ied CiamiegjloPoitsliz
isibjeaTv.erhial •
K sills, h
I reject hy' no
Hi I wiliolenrisfto be
dement; hilt theses be
_,...._. elionlik•wbew that, PM' nadir kb 'aF
plasmas; stalk ifillilibi7plnfon as to Whither it. yavodrenalle us
goofiest .Thd btu* that Court was worse thin it was la 4
age.. During the list Session of Parliament only forty judgiagoog
In appeal wad% the Lords. Tiere were MO canes,
Men /Wing Dl* than shire ink lest year, and one hupdred an.
My ellaWbeT. Ore the Ma Clerks' Mice. The guaourabk Member
Ibm moved for various Poems relative to tae oppaber of Caused
Pleas, Demurrer', Ne-bearbsgs; and liankriapt Petkions before tI4
Con on the Ors; day of HUary Term, 1829. And also for i
Mote of the ahount of money belonging to suitors is tbeisaadp
It IhirAetvinntatrt=Cit•dersili the Coat at the snide period. Thy
euniest wairigned to: * .1 ,
Till CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION. • •.. •
Mr. Secretary PEEL rose and said--Sic, .1 shall taken
the libel ty of prefacing the • appeal which 1 :neon this
evening to make• to the blouse by reading that patio*
of his Majesty's Speech which refers particularly to chi
subject which it is now my duty to bring under your
notice. Hit Majesty addresses the two Houses of Par.
Eastern in the following terms :
m My Lords and Gentkmen—The state of Ireland Wiliam the
object of his Majesty's cautioned soligknde.„
• " His Majesty laments that In that part of the United Kingdom
sit Am*** *Mild still exist which is dangermis to the publit
piliMetall Mallliblent web the spirit of • the Conatifution ; which
Mips elleyilbseed and Ulielll amongst his blajeßy's subjects i
and WWI anista permitted to contlouer- effecsually • obstruct
every silkfly to improve the condition of Ireland.
" HM • benehady relies on the wiidom and on the sup.
port of • twit* his Majesty feria aieurect that yew will
Montt to blot snob powen as may enable bit Majesty to •malatain
pp just autbority." . . ,
Sir, it is my intention, on the present occasion, to
limit myself to that c•-urse which. its propetly, or ithfeed
'I essay say exclusively, pointed out tome, and held in.
view by his Msjest in that portion of .-his Speech
which I have just read—nmely,_ to justify the allega-
tion contained in that Speech, and, to demonstrate the
eetessity, with reference to the resent state and the
future peace of Ireland, of increasing the powers here-
tofore arid now entrusted to the Exe.utive Government
of that country. Sir, I have studied this. morning,
and, indeed, for sore time pam, every means by which
I could revive in_ my mind (however, distressing the
effort might be, and hoverer paitifol. might be the.
"remembrance) recollections of, those soot and proceed-
ings of the Catholic Association which have called Or
the direct and immedia. e'interference .of thaLegiala
tore; and I began the iiksome,task under the ignores-.
sion thistly Would be necessary for me to.refer to them.
ill the course of my address to. the House; bin subse•
qiient reflection led me to suppose, and in-the end per-
seeded me, that. I might be spared so painful and an
disagreeable a.task.. f. felt assured that those acts and
those.proceedingi to which I should have referred were
frith in the recollection of those Honourable Mender.
wham I am now addressing, and that it weuld, con-
sequently, be unqrcessary for me. to state that which
'emelt one knew, I considered at also more than pro.
Jispe that, whatever variance-there might be in the
cipinimis_Of the,Heuse. as to the.remote. causes which
lhAd_gtien iito..led, influence to the Roman Catholic
Arocsation—that „although some . Honourable Mein.
bey; aught beliciaand contend Mat, so long as their
cleft disabilities existed, so tong it. wood be impossible to
,cotifrool that power; and that although-others asserted
and insisted that the mere authority of the law was suf-
ficient to contuse) or• to put down that.dringerous Ai-
atiobly,4say, that, oci matter which of the-e ',pinions
rote correct, or that which is the most likely, if the
isyth *lay between, *Mb.
.I considesed it.psohable,i I
not teitain, chits, emery man mum feel convinced that
„IN. existence of , such
_an Assembly as• the .Catholic
Ilesociation, from whatever cause it arose,..was incest.
**piens to the exercise of regular Government, wad
prejudicial to the. die administration of jrutiec. Sir, I
Will not enter into any inquiry as to thettature of. the
eases of the existence of that Association, with iefer-
este to which there are so many and such contrary
opinions; all I ask it for an admission which, I think,
will be granted upon all sides, and, indeed, has.been
lranted by the other side of the House, that this Ca-
o lic Association is not consistent with a regular
vernment. The admission will spare me the pain
of introducing thole irritating topics, or. •of refer-
sing to those acts and proceedings, the recital of
which, or even the reference to which, might obstt act
my course in the attainment of that other obj- ct, of
which I cannot for a moment lose sight, and by which,
though surrounded by many difficulties; I hope to be-
COMO the humble instrument of allaying religious ani.
=city, and of restoring tranquill ty to a country, by
something like. a satisfactory arrangement to all patties.
That it was the intention of the Legislature to suppress
the Catholic Association cannot surely be a subject of
any doubt, inconsistent with,. nay, opposed as it was, to
the very spirit and essence of the British Constitution
--that Associations which bad proceeded in a course
so subversive of all good order, and had even . levied
tiles for especial.objects. Cars it be den el then; that
this Association was inconsistent with, this constitution,
arraying, as it did. the physical strength of Ireland-on
its side, and twanging that force, asit did against
another Nice, the maintenance of which was equally
unconstitutional ? An universal assent.to this principle
,--whatever difference of opinion as to the cause of'it
may exist, sill, I. am sure, be gives ; and I am also
sine she House will attend to the recommendation
contained in his Majesty', Speech, and enable him to
Carry the designs of his Government into creamier;
and will, therefore, acquiesce in his view .that. the
,Catholic Association must be prohibited, and its future
meetings made an offence against • the law. These
,Honourable Gentlemen who have, by every -means' in
their power, pushed forward the cause and dearly ch.-
iished the Iftipe of a satisfactor, and, pet nrarient at.
rangement of the Cathcilic question, will; I am sere.
aktee with Me, that the continuance of this.Ostholic
ksioeiation, during the discussion that must take place
in this Houie a ith reference to the Catholic questiop,
Must oppOse 'an insuperable barrier to its satisfactory
adiditurlent. When we consider to bow great ,an ea.
tent the passions of 'the people are excited ip. Iseland,
and hew little they are under the government of.reasop,
I am Mire Ole Most devoted advocate of thcCatholie
cjalcos nuiit acknowledge thotFontinued.discussiuus in
that Aiseadily, relative to the measures. proposed foe
adoption by the Lesidature of the country,. must
render it ;insensible to produce Any satisfactory, or
conciliatory adjustment of the Catholic question. —.
I appeal, theii..to those who conceive it necessary
to vindicate the authority of 'Parliament .if it is
not time to consider the Catholic Association. as a
body whose existence should no longer be endured; and
I appeal tcl those she think that the disposition maid-
&Med by the Catholic Association is the only. basis open
;Which Roman Catholic Emancipation can be grounded.
,I appeal, I iiY, tit both parties to come to one camis-
oles—and that conclusion is, that it iseptally necessary
fill fhb dignily of Parliametit, for the permeisent interests
.1.066 .atit, for the advanceinee; Of.r.eligiens and
. •- •

the maintenance of , that this Cathoßc Assoc; Con
should at once and pesos,
rfeeever cease to exist. Sir, my cos.
fi fence that receive ready. aimissiott Ow* •
tried mat be the opinions as to tie cause of the esi•
rat the esis,ence of the Catholic AelOgrovon is inse.m,,
s iblevrith the ,pir it encl.:Witte df the British constitutit..
exempts me from the painful oh cessity of dwelling Upon
various acts and prucesdiags of that body-. ash act
proeeedingi w hich nothing could justify. But it fill f
niciasary, as some vindicatairof ameasure I intend
ante' your nOtterod a future bcelsion, to snake ante
observations with respect to the present state of seeks,
in Ireland ; which observations will at the same- time,
justify the demand for additional knee to bring him
operation. the Bill which I-mean to propose. I shill
therefore proceed to give my Honourable &emirs...
details of the ~fate of society in Ireland, with a vise se
iodating them seriously and deeply to deliberateapser
and consider not merely whether.addirinnal posse's: 4g
pecessasy to the Legislature, but whether there tennis
any clean.., unless something. decisive be deteseunid
npqn, of breaking up the present state of things
Ireland? I. shall give those details, for the oua•
pose of kadiog them to consider whether these be ;-
slightest prospect ot restoring pet manent peace age
rrospejity to that-country, if the deverninent of the
coentty suffer thine* to remain in-•the state in whit*
they have scrl-ang existed. It the House of Co/onio,
and the House of Lords come to a • dilfri-ent conch's:so
as to the Cathol c Question—and in we ate again. to
on from year to year differing upon that 'deeply
restiorsubject-bleli shles..nasrty. balanceit--orw std
beinrstrong eitough to exercise its coots pi&
ties so nearly disiJed thet at one time there sisal.
mijority .uf six on oce side. and at another. time
majority of fs me on the raker—and while we per vette
in a course which for t'.e last 16 years we hsve been
continoilly puTpuiogr-I ask; what choice is these of rya
storing tranqpillity.tnireland or of ensuring her safety?
I say there is none ; and I also taylsuch is the nature of t
case,that someone must becalled upon to Make sac rife's.
We etay;Sis, declare it to be our opiniciq ttr:t we *of
to pursue the course we have hitherto ptirsusd t ties I
never in my life spoke (tom more perfect cierrictine
when I say, thatif we do smut are shall not cone& the
true interests df our country. and, above all, that
shall not maintain the ',fumy of the Protestant cos-
stitutinn, or establish'ihe safety of-tteProtestaotChurch.
le is; Sir;heeause.:l.riii is because.-J fe• 1. Wok.
mg back to the pat, and, as-far 'teeny span--can
looking into the' future,' end perteivsng that yirities
hasepeen soequllly is:kneed; and f,eling'Pet thy
'OasSed its likely to remeio tee, {h
a Change do. not• take place, aligintic for-in-via mire
Out of our divisions, and be superior urns b -thrifts,
•Ikt,topleseive the_ Protestant intesest ttillitserietebti that
Propoiicer•taidchanges to.Salie place, inn sip sriArriog
't'* Hiese and thecountry may test assorted I am con-
staling its safety. I have Hoy abandoned weropinsoo.,
but' have changed my. ctorse sad* I:llaertfiqiiiied
that course,. as j beltpee, for the ativeitage,`PtAltat
Proteeiiint Church and the. Prctestant Constitution--
(Hear; hear). If differences of opinion es(w-M oppo.
site parties, those pkrtiel'ari dettly-Ih/littfitf;l9. the
Maki the quest theyesponieiikitieeil4loo4o4
in public opinion.. That .Iselaece-paeledleswastallerdt;
but Ivey that, if we.arecalled,opq4 estriservatref in
continuing the state of Ireland as it
be pursuing. a course most
.e,rejudisOLA..,4ll4".
and most distresting arm, wbcpstAtgit. se.to slick
sorer the safety of the Constitutleiss--Ilkerwe :clef"
deny :facts. We 'newt. judge •fot- eitrligfelr Staid iii
cannot deny that lac:trying oir.iltiW 0-preit:lifAte
country during the last .tvtestileitrapamvpahatanghpig
the well.known bias .hia.late Miestyitwhear public
.112k:cared lira consolidatitan oftliOmt
ctArlityijt in fdbnd ofierlYiniptltsiOlitogkats444lFd.
ntiaiardistioe ihould hive 'one feeling. tied -cineened
on this engrossing subject of atholic emancipation-. Sos?v
all aensetuber- that in.-1804 Mr;Piet; 4efid.e
upotreeciird; When he foondhe coultrnot briagidi'eol-
lefygues in off round. tobis iiiiref the case, retired fit., oce ; and after that event, if it bad been-possible iota,*
procured a - do:tramcar which should have agreed
upon the Catholic question, there could, he nkr. don
that it would have been done. • 'SOS, howevel;lied
• .•
been the case; and there could 'be no question.-that
because of the necessity which existed of calling :
times of- danger all the best energies of the coutflky
into action, the various' Cabinets had been corbpdiecre
men who entertained opposite sentiments as.to the meat-•
sure of Catholic Emancipation. It was suers eases-
oily that united together such men as Pitt and Nevins
and Castlereagh, how varied soever Might be their
Opinions upon this one topic. If, then, the various gob
•Werninetits. in times past were composed of individoals
tie opposite to their view's upon this subject;ca We.ebea
we look forward to theintererespect any Other iesult
eio irearikertain the hope that any adepinistratimises
be formed of one etind ppon this:subject, and yet able
to offer such advice to the.Crownws.alie eenetiremplal
be slitkfied. with; .11rd -feria-kb deice -,tdininttird'itite
confidence of ilteliistdtbi, .
"
with integrity, wAlsteepj,:etta.:A
don, Which 1-43116111htillIMOttlhe; intesited,leribe
entreat the House and my Hbnas lends wi•liaten to thine
details which I am about tobring.uoder,their notice
pith eefeiente to the Piewpf condition lieland, and
let tAein, I entreat, give the interval between the pro-
position ofthe measure which is now to betrought un-
der their et:dice,"and•thitt other measure which will -
proposed it some future per iod.t o the Consideration • he.
the, it is expedient that'a country so situated ti Ireland
should ho suffered to remain as it no& it ; whether a Go-
veitiment.shall continue to bear those trammels which
ari,efroitidivided councils; and whether something can-
not be done to terminate the unnatural conflict, to ad-
just the balance, to restore peace and prosperity to one
country, had give quiet add satisfaction to another ?
in laying Wore the House thota details which it is nor
my duty to submit to them, I am fully aware of the genet
unwillingness to bear them that must inevitably exist;
but-at the•same. time I believe thkt the deep anxiety
which every Hon. Member must feel relative to. the
subject wilt outweigh every other consideration, and
that they-*ill not complain of such details having.hres
laid before them: It is; Sir, such details as those If
Which. I am, about to -present some :light and icor"-
fact ipeciinens, that. have determined use to adopt the
line of conduct which I mean in future to pursue;
he -House will see in- those statements the reason
why have heOn Inctiaed .to think there is mote
Wral-jn.oetllgiOpting..a, safe millement of this question
why:l.4lw tholight it of-more advantage and of
.greater secbrity to the PrOtkatanTestablishment soto do
rand why rimve*ughttegivent civil commotion by
remaining as we were. with 6
-prospeCt of pentptining-the question-to an-indefinite ye-
iriotlf to suffer theGolretitmeot clod the" Legislature>
power.
epsairrlidEhadv
ealeftdrailiricted....edft:Ml.
;painful det,ails which Amoebae ftrrnisbed to the Goofs-
trieiit during the last`iis indutht-and
lace • Ml'
rs afra. vrthigo.et.didentehoskedl4.lB"
mthole In.stmerhatioushalfaill
Oeared taiiniiit opal the case. Prost. simr

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amity. Akitap
titlboulous, ypt they e await bp
are in &met opposition to the
krencr et repeatable Uratees t
they cannot reaseant or probibk
p.irs•lie., and miscount: anent
%Items foregoty. • Bte. le
Sir, believe there is soon
tiling) of physical strength.
to controol a force arrayei
hoe painful it would lurvi
talon Cu have put down lam
gm; HI the country. Wbal
of these demonstrations of

land? Wee it that they el
But viy cilleJ for and
en the root of tbe-Prot.
the Government Was in dal
1 peopl,-. neat" of the sal
'e Clown, and drierinj
-ow but see in,hopti
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ade at him through the medium of the I COURT OP CHAWCIRT.
ions of Lk
,day. Inane was Da &lobes Mr. H.
.41.1.. TAYLOR row purgurEpdv
argot she maw of came pending the
ei6Ar=n6:is reiiiileted the pillory that the Chia
tb, sight cmourable ss, bring forertiidf aerials oh the -eabjeel
oa piaci:lmm tisieohrirtios of , ?odd be la aceor4bnee -with iliet vqll
Wand Wass gullet** part of otir ((sward lost year, all erhiebiled
He Was deligbfed to hfir that the Rip WajaritY. He .1191441 'Pat Ine Hi t
before the °chit Hoeseof Plrileavrat
'Mann "As sans action tendered Assad tor a ihme rout,• he eheeld whew thee, 1

b.
VIM
G tOtalltadeaCt
Nl* r
4er 00. cettaikflitts_
not'• bi sitifs
atile.fleerlerestr•
rut. best -any "islet lif
ii .u,
hearts and the on.
'Poet is attached to his
now submit CO .yea
Ibe not silt that yow ,
to I will, then, pre
Dere reference to the po
letY in imminent dans
tttse as having reference
hue regards the salmi.
es respects the int
net en all sides, we a
respects the metes
soy that country. And
ph, feel to consult the
wits terests and the tra
lad eipitate id opposin.
s its a state of things, th
pus. , no matter of what
the : deplore. Sir. after
age
sion of Parliament
hthis
future•course I we.
op as to what that c.
"4".
re, I. it bad become absolu
condition of Ireland.
' X° tomcat of the cnteq
r fides of the Roman,
11!", • hastenedbythefactst
PIC I Will not state that
w at nature is tie Aunt a
e means were abided
to which I refer; I w
wee
which force could not
Sir, during the per io
ty ? vitittsly to it. at peace
rthe
cause we have bteo •
'ter. last four hundred ye
Of when relations of su•
is ' this eriuntry.and ever
tig's cense the Protestant
the forth by intimidation
we been ready to soceific
maintenance of. the
re.h. think that for these re
course which is so ob.
dn. fairly and honourably
cares Oppertuoity which th
false the present Moment,
that such powerful cur
the Mate
rens 11outrisitilhhaject t whichtnw
that . peace is Irelao •
nag lit before the House
en. lected from that ear
Da., untied to his Ms*
ked last 04 months. Su.
the seoper. dosios the
b— • rioos that whole band
Po• 4
raded throes!' warless
the military arrets.Thele
tier; their objedora"
they were ai4Mbile4
~ft but they preamtiesrao
tend to treat with coot
tfls, elinisli kabsta Able •
itch Maw will retakes
tact **of tO. t'to Osamu oh.
•
-ws I shall do
.se sot- only •
Measures I Awaboort
.ad muirerto tfir qind
air alai; as io, whir a •
Ave arrive' et a cootleiion
. Liked bostafais fit
Wobit, that f• hire
t? read as the Bony*
ILA porno's of no side to
ea. ...Mail perdu who -
roes asetim far adsleoefsns
rave seas who teeW net
eed slat4msets. or in hole
dog Aktvwkeillf of troth.
tiler goat eras such as. to
,hat plop lidigisterstes who
itt the 6901Peneerktgliod w
tospoimible. They eel •
rof sible *km is mis-el •
440 weramisht by which t
letter I shall reed is nee
rifle• by Major Carter. a
heir ' 'sessile maracas! in Jr.
ell' every individual io the
tills country to be as dull
,bet statements AS I ir the or
toner y. of his conduct. I
coo
able here the lessees to
Mid nit instant there were pi!,
*awry, *Wed ma arrayed
porta hew" vial. et T •
.ire three and &tar tbeassad es
.• •
• aid banner., and attended by
:•ibe • ittette' carry* yam brambeet.
• tees handfed ravairi std
Mice ataiotists, with trees
Mice Daaher. K. dhearlembse
and • b.orr bees payday whirrisol •
m.o. it Own dal, whe, law ratedsos •
siseetettieseinnit intim than
con- of. their abj!ct, them
Ibe iEley the taws, and Malteds,
he. emery. Aldan. As sisal a
land rk4outoin, yet they ehabst be •
nn• air in direct opposition iri the ad

lolly appear but asin )10,11
*her: I writ presendy reed
a—a Gent eitan well knows
"obey. highly roopoesod by
Obese dimwit of leased ii
sir, sre pesos 's,* loy hip acc
• .rder and sobriety petalled
Ulule. It would worn sots
them us tt order end *lbsi!
Fitful,* ti= ffictiar ill
I. hick bloom mai
, sgb as alislutins:tlit
II fp igag* Skits
• bros, 14, dig. smanis