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London, England, 1829-02-11 00:00:00

show also that it is tow adellible.to grant the. WOW
dicta use of eztrattedinarypowee• Jetheechan that thine
should c Atinue as they gens',..lathatevei is the opirtift
as ti the Catholic Association, and whatever is the dif-
fetenee cf sentioient on the genet al question. I entreat
tie House town) theGnvernment with solficiect power
to prevent the necessity of having recourse to military
interference. The only task that now remains for one
Is to explsin the nature of the measure I shall submit
to the House. It is necessary. in the fit t place, to pia•
pose a measure foe suppressing the Catholic Association,
'and to interdict the meeting of its Members, in ;Se
;capacity of Members, and, in addition, to add peel.
,dons for carrying the intentions of the I.ggidature
fully into effect, and to prevent the 'access (AC shifts
similar to those that have been beretoftre use 4 to
evade those intentions. Theobjegt of the Legislating in '
past enactments has been defy • d credit has been
taken for the defeat; and the inie , odo so again
has been abeade signified. It istiisii . y better 0)4)
nufavit
nothing than to propose that whieb is likely to Of de-
feated; sad it remains to.be considered what cotuse is
best calculated to carry the measureirro , liar witholit
increasing the esil. The intention of the Act of the
year 1825 was to prohibit the meetings of the C itholic
Association and other assemblies by mpg eft enactment's
but the enactments were so wide and general that thee
went beyond the object of the Legisla ore; And it be-
came necessary, therefore, to make escepti•tos„, saving
ihe right to meet for the purposes of religion, science.
sgriculture, mid other lawful aolproper purposes....
AJvantage was taken of these exceptions ; the inteutions
of the Legislature were.gtadisolly defeated, and the
Act was made to serve purposes which were not e• a-
templated by the law. bet which were actually accom-
plished under its proteCtion. There is one cm elusive
reason for not resorting to the same course at present,•
namely. that to render die measure effectual, it.is clear
that it must be more binding than the law of 1825.
The interdiction must be more complete, the esseptions
more excepting. Idi not know that it is possible to
frame such a statute as is requisite, so as not to expose
the provisions of the law to being interacted in
4 manner not contemplates by the. Legislature. If
it were asked what law shoulif be 'tamed for sup.
pressing the Catholic Association ?'I could not find
a satisfactory answer. Were a law passed prohibiting
every political meeting, meetings would he heldundee
other pretences; and it its provisions were extended to
these. it could not be .p issed without enf 'tying ohj•cte
different from the intentions of the Legislature. Uider
these citcurnstinces, it is my opinion that it is Wei and
better to meet the d .tiger at once, and ty depart from the
general principle, by opposing an effectual barrier to in.
dividual purpose. With this impression I promise tO coma
mit the sole power of. act iou to one. l.propose to4ommit
it to him who hasthe c•i judgment of the stated affairs,-
who is responsible for the state of tl e count) y—tii him
alone—to the Lord Lieut.: of Leland I propose tecommit
the power of suppressing any assembly that he Joie think
dangerous to the public peace, by virtue t f a law intero
dictiog the Meeting of any assembly likely .to be tlana
serous. This law will not enable any ot'er indivjduil
whatever to act upon it. If it be found necessery to
enforce its protium...it will enable the Laid Lieutenant
to select two Magistrates for that purpose,. and it, will
requite the patties included in the intention it it to.dis•
pew imoredively. The law• will like* ise
.interdict
'the receipt of any monies, whether no 'er the name
iii rent or otherwise, collected by or through. the
agenty of the Association, stipPressed by this:Acts
In adopting this course, moderate penalties will be
OffiCient. l consider it not necessary to propose, any
measure (if a determined nature—(flear, bear. Ikea).
I feel asso,e.d that if greater powers be required, P 4414-
ment will heire no hesitation in granting .an i. eses•e I
but I am convinced these will be less hesitation in giving
that increase if the public peace be endaligeted. alter.
the contemirlated adjustment of 'the question has taken
'Frlice(lfeat). an adjustment framed sows sal remove
every reason Able cause of complaint on the pan i f she
Roman Catholics, and to provide for the safety of Its
Protestants. Ido not propose to extend this 'AO irk ii, •
topg term-not so long as the lasi.' I propose is tithe it
for the period °hone year, and for wlsateser time may
c•ceur between the end of the year and the next Sessions.
With this period lam contented. As to ihe chavicter
of the measure, I consider it less dangerous as a pi etc-
dent because it departs from the ordinary foams. and i.,
therefore, leas likety to creep in or be continued esthetic
due examination. In attempting to been
t! c duty
Which has devolved upon me I'have been guided, first,
by a wish to demonstrate the necessity of the intended
measure, and to justify the upped I hive maJe; Mkt
in the second place, to do this in such a manner as to
assist the atm meat of that great ohject which will
shortly be brought under the coasidesatioa of :he
House—f Hear, bra ). • - •.
The SPILAILER having put the question,
Lord ALTHOIIP said,' bewas happy to hear.,the
manner in which this Bill.bad been breu.;ht forward by
the Rt. Hon Gentleman.; be should give it•his support,
as hr considered it iely ()separator/ 'to tie final settle.
ment of she vest question of Cithelic Ertiancipation ;
on this ground, and this only, be supposted the mea-
sure. He hai long thought e.ere was no safety wi:ls-
out concession; her was now mire than ever convinced.
He should not object to the nogiom because ulterior
measures were promised; and bewas glad the powers
were to be entrusted to the Lord Lisutesantl and not to
soy Magistrates—(Heart. As.the CatholieEinaireipo. ' •
tioo was the ulterior object, I e repeated, hetiadly coo..
wilted to this question. • . •A,
Mr. V. STUART- said, he had become a Member of
the Association-(A laogb)o-because he thought too
many of his countrymen were deprived of their jag •
sights; he should consent to the tnottont as Em swipe.
tion was the ulterior object. Without it all leralation
would be vain; and he gave no opposition to the 1411,
deeming 'die Government now pledged to use Al its
power to promote Emancipation. The power of 'die
Catholic Association had been its moral power.: He
trusted that the Bill would justify the' description, and
be should wait anxiously for the I..troductioo of the
Emancipation Bill. He bad become a member or it!
Catholic Association from the idea that it was salon.
hated to make known the great grievances under obit%
Itched laboured; it would Nose died a natural death
if Emancipation was granted. He must here beg leave
to return his sincere thanks for the liberal smonnents
the Ministers bad expressed, and he hoped the Bill
would not be clogged with securities; the only soul*,
the House could have would be in giving the Rooms
Catholics their just rights—(Cheers). The Associatsen•
did tut deserve all the epithets bestowed upon it. It
wad not inconsistent with the Constitution to unite 4 Tyl
sake grievances known. . . •••
Mr. STANLEY, in suppotting the proposition of the
Bight Hon. Gentleman, -so far as the preliminary ewe=
sure was concerned, begged :to le, understood es con-
curring in it, as one not by itself, but se dependolgi upon.
and connected witk, other and greater measure . of more
vital importance to the interests of the Roman Catholic
Body. He meant measures of "conciliation-41W.
bear). He did not wish to justify. the conduct and