Star.
London, England, 1828-04-18 00:00:00

CONCOaDAT-~CATROLICS.

Mr. 11. MAXWELL, in presenting several Petitions
from parishes in the county of Cavan against granting
any further concessions to the Catholics, begged to state
that he fully concurred with the prayer t t the Peti-
tioners. But he must also observe, that a rumour had
been lately set afloat which tended greatly to the di:-
comfort and anxiety of many of his Majesty's loyal
Protestant subjects in Iteland, and he therefore wished
to ascertain from the Right Hon. the Secretary of State
for the Home Department whether such tumour were
founded or unfounded ? He was well aware that he
could not directly ask whether any Concordat either bad
been, or was now negotiating with the See of Rome,
for that would subject the parties to the penalties of a
pronunire ; but the questions he should put would be,
whether the reports to which he bad alluded were totally
destitute of foundation? whether, directly or indirectly,
or by the agency of others, either at home or abroad, or
by any foreign Court in or on behalf of our Sovereign
Of his Government, any negotiations were carried on
relative to the Catholics of these kingdoms with the See
of Rome ?

Mr. Secretary PEEL felt obliged to his Hon. Friend,
who, in administering such a question to him, had at
the same time furnished him with the only safe answer
which he could give. He did not feel himself bound
to give an answer to any rumour which had been afloat,
but the respect he felt for his Hon. Friend induced him
merely to say, that he never heard of any;such rumour
till the other day.—and that there was not the slightest
foundation for it.

Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, he was glad this sub-
ject had been mentioned, for he thought that all these
Acts inflicting the penalty of premunire for holding any
correspondence with the See of Rome, were ridiculous
and unnecessary. He gave notice, that on the 13th day
of May neat, he would move for leave to bring in a Bill
for their Repeal--(Hear).
The Petitions were then ordered so be printed.
%fr. LENNARD presented a Petition from a Parish la the
county of Monaghan, in favour of the Catholic Claims..—Ordered
to be printed:
bar. H. DOOOLAS presented a similar Petition front Arran,
and also for the Repeal of the Testand Corporation Aete..—Ordered
to be printed. REGULATION 01/ UNION&

Sir F. BURDETT, in presenting a Petition from a
number of respectable Mechanics, frequenting an Union
Friendly Society in Stockport, said, he much feared
whether the Bill now before the House for the regulation
of such bodies of people could be effectually carried into
a la'. Great irritation bad already sprung out of the
proposed measure, and he put to the Hon. Member
who had introduced the Bill (Mr. I'. P. Courtenay)
whether it would not be prudent for the present t 9
abandon it?

Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, that nothing should be

dona which would weaken the anxiety felt by the rne.
thanics of this country to trust to their own savings tr
support, rather than have recourse to the Poor Lawt
Whatever accidental mischiefs grew out of the ranch,
system, he would still prefer it to any leyislative mea.
sure, which would take the mantigettsgot of their funds
out cf the laws of the particul,r fficieties.
Mr. P. THOMPSON said, the object of the propelled
10 was to improve and consolidate the existing Ilium
Citltst to inflict any injury on the feelings or the
ts of such clubs or invitations.. Let the Bill hay
bet .fair Play, and he was sure that it would materially
benefit the interes:s of those deserving persons for whom
k was intended.
Mr. T. P. COURTENAY said, the Iron. Member
lad properly characteriked the Bill he bad the honour
of introduting into the House. fl any of its clauses
*ere found to be ObjectiOnable, they could be remedied
la the Committee ; bat he did not see time he tualit
altogether let the matter drop as it now stood.
Mr. BERNAL had no doubt of the tercelle t motiet
of the Hon. Member who had introduced 'this sill, but
he (Mr. Bernal) thought it went mach farther than eat
originally intended. That clause, regulating the tultdt
of the different Societies, was considered particularly
objectionable; the people were anxious and irritated
the subject, and he therefore put it for the consideration
of the Hon. Member, whether it wouldbe right to prat
k for. the present. Persons who contributed their or
funds for their .reliet, should be allowed to manage then
In their Own way; and though he aanaiited that some
iiisehiefs refitted trom the present mode of matter
ment, he touch doubted if theproposed Dill would secure
better system.
Mr. T. P. COURTENAY coula only again remit
his readiness to act as the Committee might think most
advisable; with respect to the clean objected to by
Hon. Member (Mr. Bernal). ithad beta literally copied
from the old Act.
The Petition wu than °reeved to ba lard on the table.
Mr. DUNDAS presented heveesk rimier Pethions !foal Dept.
ford, Greenwich, and Lewisham, which were ordered to be
ferret to the Committee on the Bill.
Mr. HOME moved for returns *Waft flit =bunt of datiel
paid to the Emilie on all ankles SIT 'Upstart in every year abate
1824, distinguishing the different articles, and also the dud* pad
ha England and in Ireland.—Ordered.
SINEISO 21111D-111111LIC DES?.
Mr. MABERLY said, he was induced to move
returns connected with the state of the Sinking Fund
and our Public Debt, in consequence of an able pat.
phlet which had recently been put forth by a Noble
Lord, who bad completely altered his opinion u to
efficacy of the Sinking Fund. He (Mr. Moberly)
not now mean to enter into any discussion on the
ject ; but it must be evident, that when the small
notion of the debt was looked to, the expense of ,
i letting the money for effecting it was enormous—it
amounted to nearly four hundred thousand pounds
yeat. In 1815, the capital debt was 792.000 0001.7
was now about 882,000,0001. and the mina.lement
this excess cost the country an additional charge
forty thousand pounds, notwithstanding that the charge
was reduced by the reduction of the 4 and 5 per cents.
It would be seen, however, that as to tell
there was but little, if any. At some future day, it
other Member of greater weight and importance thougi
proper to take up the subject, he should move for
repeal of the Bill by which the Sinking Fund was esta.
bliihed; but it would be „previolisty necessary that
House should be furnished with the information wt
he should now tall her/The Hon. Member then mw
for an account of each loan contacted since 192.
what price, and what sum was realized ; the amain
of capital stock purchased for the same; the total
penditure of the Commissioners ; also tie expels&
at the National Debt Office; the estimate for et
three pound annuity granted ; the amount of elm
redeemed ; and at what avet age cost.—altdered.
Mr. MABERLY observed, that in fairness he mi
admit a great redaction in the Unfunded Debt.
CORN LAWS.
Mr.IIEATHCOTE, in presenting a Petition from certain A;
culturists in the county of Lincoln, obwrveJ upon the great
portance Of the question, and urged the immediate attention of
Government to it. There could be no doubt that great dish
existed at present, but the Agriculturists still relied upon the G.
vernanent with every confidence, and be hoped they would gran
them an adequate protection.
Mr. PORTMAN said it was his intention to Ake Coramittet
the Co Law!, un Tuesday next, to induce thespi to increase the
belie or peossetion frofn one to two shillings, particularly when tic
wheat was at a low price in this country. The measure now pas
posed was materially worse than that of last yeU, and he build
the Huse 'maid agree with him that the4griculturists, who awl
so long patiently borne privations, would at last be adequately per
teeted.-..The Petition was then laid fen the table. •
COMMITTEE.
Colonel DAVIES said, that seeing the Honourable
Member, the Chairman of the Finance Committee, in
his place, he wished to know from him when any Ile
port of the Committee relative to the public espendi•
tune would be laid before the House.?
Sir HENRY PARNELL was willing to afford every
information in his power in answer to the question of
the Honourable Member. The Committee had gone
through several items of the Public Expenditure, but
the Miscellaneous Services were yet to
_lse eau:since,
It was probable that the materials for theliepprt would
l.e ready in the course of the next week ; but it-ins im-
possible to say to what length the discussion might
proceed in the Committee on the Report to be pre-
sented. As he was on his legs, he wished to explain *
circumstance, which was this--it was necessary to send
t• the different Public Offices for various accounts, an
orders to the amount if nearly 200 had been issued f
that purpose. The greasier portion of these orders h
had drawn himself, and not one was returned, beteg',
it could not be complied with( When any orders wee
issued by other Members of the Committee from whit
any difficulty might arise, he was furnished with assist
once by a Gentleman of the Treasury, who was co
versant with the mode in which such Returns could
made out with the greatest facility; so that, in fact,
charge made against the Committee, of sending f
papers with which they could not be supplied with
considerable difficulty, was entirely unfounded, exce
perhaps in three or four cases of no peat importance.
Mr. CROKER brought up aural Returns connected with tb
Receipt. and Disbursements of Greenwich Hospital, which we
ordered to be laid on the table.
The farther etessideration of the Report on the Bills of guitar!
(Ireland) BiU was deferred to Monday nest; the Juries (itelati
BiU to the same day.
The Election Trial Acts Consolidation Bin to Wednesday nest.
The Committees of Supply and Ways aid mtan, tIU to.sperror
(this day).

If 4

room LAWS.
Mr. BLANEY rose to bring forward his promisei
motion on this suhject. He did not iiitind to taut
the law of settlement ; only a branch of the law as fat
as regarded relief. He did not detire to diminish the
relief to the lame, the impotent, the blind, Sic. on tlx
contrary, he wished to render the fund for them moll
secure, by preventing its undue diversron I his dAtiett
*as limited to the relief of the able bodied labour
The relief extended to such laisouiers
great grievance, and the serious burcen ; hr knew sue
tact fr.,m the long attention he had paid to the iubj.d
He was aware that in manufacturing districts in parr
,:ular, there was the liabi'ity of great fluctuation in thi

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misinterpreted, and ce
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to the different Repo:
Committees decide as
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ho wished to benefit
at means of the cc
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by making an allow&
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round by the parish t
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be paid out of the s
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Mb* the Rtnigratioi
dreadful state the is
dueled. In Sussex,
lasounted to nearly a
in Hertford the propo
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lie found by letters
in the southern counti
leaf for every member
611 dread of marriage
aergtatan of Northa
per orphan at eighteet
to consent to his ma
both impatient, and s
learned civilian, chit
prevent their martia
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of the parish ral
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motive! of the agate
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to pre sons might supps
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on in The gross am,
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ink taws pribted ender tfl
.to by the , a&H of wisdom,
17 copied Mount of the poor
r the poor rate nett
doetted*very
rem Dept.
to be re. zpeeses doubled es
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it of de ade a ostentation I
, ?sir Voce st in the year Hit
dui* tow and and Wales
1811 the numb
move for en 'being ten milli
ing Fond as 1.600.000; in
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, a Nobl. • at with such an i
uto the rtionate increase
Serly) did Scotland, that i
1 the subs per 'to twenty.t
mall dimi. country in whit!
se of col. stered, it would
pounds s
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reduction,
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price
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was esu. 7 Sir EdWard Wei
that nd wages, it appeapeel
t 1 &2. at e lowe,t 40s. tut
e amount great as to make
Le total et. od what it ass
:prnditute tn°""'s rfrt
for every s. He implored
ect 01 Hochfiocte
t annuity
red. are on the labours
she must odated *ls ifrtai
& &II he hoped
poo rlll
loos to the intrust
't' :t.
igh peen caused I
ertatn Airi- fattened to take
_ his country was t
: geese im:
ma, a use re the House.
eat distrut ises, and
,on the Go