Star.
London, England, 1821-04-17 00:00:00

YZOMA NRY CORPS.

The next vote was for L 170,600 for defraying the
expense of Volunteer Corps in Great Britain.
Mr. BERNAL was not prepared to vote for such
an increase as this vote implied.
Mr. CLIVE, Lord PALMERSTON, Mr. J. P. GRANT,
Lord MILTON, Mr. FTSCHE PALMER, aad Sir W. Da
Cnesetowy, said each a few words in reference to the
augmentation of Yeomanry Corps.
Mr. BROUGHAM insisted that they were in•
creased for no other object than to increase the pa-
tronage of the Crown.
Mr. HUME said that the expense of keeping up
the Yeomanry Corps had considerably increased
within the last lour years. It appeared to him, that,
under the head of Yeomanry Expenses, a. reduction
of £50,000 might safely be made.
Lord PALMERSTON observed, that, though this
was the seventh year of peace with respect to our
foreign relations, it was only the first year of our
domestic peace, since the termination of the war.
The Manufacturing Districts had been in a state of
violent insubordination to the laws, and it had been
found necessary to call out the Yeomanry as the most
constitutional force that could be employed.
Lord MILTON agreed entirely in the proposition
that the Yeomanry was the most constitutional force
that could be brought in support of the laws; but it
did not follow, that because there might have been
riots in Glasgow, Yeomanry Corps should be increased
in peaceable counties.
Sir ROBERT WILSON said, that nothing but
conciliation could establish the security of the coun-
try. Had Ministers proceeded in the system they
had recently acted upon, rebellion would have be-
come a duty!—(Order, order!)—Yes, he would say,
if not rebellion, that at least resistance would have
become a duty! Ilk words might be taken down—
he was prepared to justify them—(Hear, hear).
Mr. HUME was convinced that the disturbances
at filasgow had been excited by the spy Franklin,
who had long been an emissary and hired agent of
Government—(Loud cries of Hear, hear! from Me
Ministerial Benches).—Whatl could the fact be de-
nied ? Could it be denied that the spies Castles, Oli-
ver, Elwards, &c. had been in connection with Go.
vernment ? The intimacy of Franklin with Govern-
rneut could not be more clearly established than by
the fact of his having been liberated by a Bow street
Magistrate without bail, after another Magistrate had
refused to take it, in consequence of the offence he
was charged with. Who butUovernment could have
furnished him with the hundreds of pounds which he
expended in his diabolical proceedings?—(Repeated
cries of Hear, hear.)--He was ready to prove all he
he said, and it was no later than yesterday that some
facts bad come to his ear, which sheaved that the
wicked tools of Government were still at work, and
be should shortly, perhaps, bring those facts before
doe House—(Hear, hear).
Mr. BAI • URST vindicated the conduct of his
Majesty's Government from the charge brought by
the Honourable Member, and disclaimed their hav-
ing any knowledge whatever of Franklin.
Mr. HUME adverted again to the liberation of
Franklin, by Sir Robert Baker, and said, that the
circumstance of that Magistrate not having been
brought to an account for the act, proved that the
person whom he set at large, was an agent of that
department over which Lord Sidmouth presided—
(lkar, hear).
Mr. BATHURST deprecated the course of argu-
ment which the lion. Member had chosen.
Lord MILTON said, that the placard posted up
in Glasgow, was clearly of London manufacture. It
certainly could not for a moment be denied, that
Oliver was connected with Government, and acted
as their agent in Yorkshire ; for orders had been sent
down to the Magistrates not to arrest him—(Hear,
hear, hear).
Mr. BATHURST denied that the case of Oliver
had anything to do with the present question. It was
very true that his Majesty's Government thought it
advisable to avail themselves of his information—
(Hear, hear), when they discovered that treasonable
machinations were eoing forward.
The LORD ADVOCATE was quite certain that'
the 'placard had been written in Glasgow.
Mr. J. P. GRANT said it bore internal evidence of
having been written and published in England.
Mr. MONTEITH, the Provost of Glasgow, was,

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' surprised to hear the mortices alad e, that the placard
woos corn_ Feel in. projected is England.
IMr. ETOUOilAbleontended, that the charge against the
Dovemmieut was Mlsuoderstood b Hon. Gentlemen on the
etitelrerds. His limo. Friend, the Member for Aberdeen, had
not charged Lord Sidnrouth with sending emissaries into the
Manufacturing Districts for the purpose of exciting treason.—
No ! the charge of his Hon. Friend was,
.that the spies of Go-
vernment had exceed.-d the measure of their instructions, in
order to create that crime which they were employed to detect.
Against Franklin, however, theist was a case of vehement suspi-
cion; star was it less strong against Oliver and Edwards, the
latter, in particul it. was deeply implicated. The Honourable
and Learned klembesitpen proceeded to shew that those per-
sons appeared in a light which strongly marked them hired
agents serving under the direct influence of Government. He
next reprobated tae policy which could retort to such means,
and contended that in the end it would turn out the worst that
ever was adopted.
Mr. W. POLE felt it quite impossible to sit still and hear
charges brought against his Majesty's Government for which
there was not the slightest foundation. The Hon. Member for
Aberdeen had nut hesitated to prefer a charge of the most seri-
ous nature upon no other authority than mere suspicion. It had
been insinuated by the last Hoe. and Learned Gentleman, that
the Noble Secretary of State had been privy to the base pro-
ceedinp of Franklin—(Ne, no).—Did he not Insinuate so?
Mr. BROUGHAM.—No, no; I said " employed," generally.
Mr. W. POLK.—" Did he not insinuate that Government
were implicated in the proceedings of this man, and that they
sanctioned men in instigating others to treason? If he did so,
he insinuated that which was foul, false, and base!"--(Lord cheers,
esiitgiesi with strong cries if Order! J.—The Hight Hon.. Gentleman
then proceeded to justly the conduct of Government with res.
spect to the employment of Oliver
liver and Edwards, and charged
the Hon. and Learned Gentleman with disingenuity In insinuat-
ing that which be had not the manliness to state openly. If he
had a charge, let him not breathe it in insinuation, but let him
make it the subject of an article of impeachment.
Several Members now rose to address the Chair, but in con 7
sequence of loud calls fur Mr. Liaoeausat, that Gentleman was
allowed to proceed.
Mr. BROUG II A Sir, after the Committee has listened
to the scandalous charges [raking his voice to the highest pitch)
the scandalous charges which the Right Hon. Gentleman has
dared to bring forward against me"
Mr. ROBINSON rose to order amidst the greatest confu-
sion, and immediately after him Mr. Beexarr. The two Hon.
Gentlemen remained nanding for a short time—cries of
" -hair," " Utah.," and " Order," resounding from all parts
of the House.

At length the CHAIZSIAN succeeded in obtaining an interval
of silence. Ik entreated the attention of the House to the
Atuation in which he was placed, and earnestly begged that.
instead of continuing the confusion, the Committee would lend
him their aid, whilst he endeavoured to calm the irritation
which had unfortunately arisen, be believed, from some misun-
derstanding.
Mr. ROBINSON assured the Committee, that his only
motive in thing, was to attempt to bring about the same object.
Mr. TIERNEY was sure that the hasty words of the Right
Host. Gentleman which be was not surprised to Ind bad called
forth the expressions of strong feelings on the part of his Hon.
and Learned Friend, would, when considered by the Right Hon.
Gentleman, be very willingly recalled by him.—(Hear).
Mr. W. POLE decided, that he should be sorry to say any
thing which would have the effect of giving offence to the Hon.
and Learned Gentleman, with whom he was too little personally
acquainted to allow the supposition that he could have any object
in doing so.
Mr. TIERNEY thought that the declaration of the Right
Hon. Gentleman ought to be a sufficient atonement to the feel-
ing! of Ms Hon. and Learned Friend.

Mr. BROUGHA M would assure the Committee that no man
was more unwilling than he was captiously to seek cause of of.
fence in anysexpression of the Right Honourable Gentleman, of
whom he would observe, he Mr. Brougham) had just as little
knowledge as the Right Honourable Gentleman was pleased to
say he had of him. No tnan was more willing than he was to
allow a fair and liberal latitude of remark towards one another
in the course of debate, and he was ready to take it for granted
that either bis bearing was imperfect, or that he had misunder-
stood the Right Honourable Gentleman. As to his having in-
sinuated anything which he had not the Buntline's openly to de-
clare, he would appeal to those who knew him if they believed
that he was the man to act in that manner? He begged leave
to say that he never did charge Government with having wil-
fully and knowingly abetted men who were instigating others to
rebellion. He had not insinuated it ; he never dreamed of Inaba-
sting it; it could not have been his belief that Government did
so : but his charge was not conveyed in the shape of insinua-
tion, but openly and in express terms declared, that Government
employed a person so clumsily, so bunglingly, and yet so anxious-
ly, for the purpose of getting information, that their conduct
bad the tendency and the effect of creating the belief, though he
was satisfied that the. intention was absent—that they sanc-
tioned the instigating of a number of persons to the crime of
rebellion.

Mr. W. POLE begged to say, that if the Honourable and
Learned Gentleman had not made the insin aid= he could not
possibly have been subjected to the application of the offensive
expressions He had said, that if the insinuation was made, it
was foul, false, and base.

Mr. BROUGHAM would only say, that be was confident
that no one who had senses to hear and understand his words,
could possibly believe that he had conveyed any such insinuation.
The original motion was then carried.
Lard PALMERSTON begged to know if the Honourable
Gentleman opposite would allow the Resolution for the pant to
defray the payments of the Half-pay List, and the Soldiers'
Widows' Allowance, as, by the delay of the grant for this de-
partment, occasioned by the discussion of the Army Estimates
much inconvenience was experienced.
Colonel DAVIES and Mr. HUMS said, that they had seve-
ral important statements to make with respect to the Half-pay
Department, which it would be impossible for them to avoid
laying before the House, when the grant would be proposed.
The House accordingly resumed, the Report was ordered to
be brought up this day, and the Committee obtained leave to sit
again on Welay.