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London, England, 1803-07-12 00:00:00

rARLIAMBPITARr PROCEEDMGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, SATURDAY, JULY q.
The Irifh Army of Referve Bill was reported, and was then
read the third time and paffal.
The Wonlien Clothiers Bill was read a ferond time.
I.lpon the motion that the Bill be committed, the Earl of Mot■
highly difapproved of the Bill, as repealing fevcral ftatutes of great
importance to the welfare of numerous individuals; and he hoped
the various Petitions againft it would be heard at the Bar.
The Loan Cisancti.Loa coincided with the Noble liarl,and the
Bill was committed for Wednefday, and leave given for Connie.' to
b: heard againit ft. The Route then adjourned.

MONDAY, JULY I I.
The lodges delivered their opinions on the appeal, Lothian and
Henderion. The cafe briefly was, that Henderfon and Co. Vir-
ginia merchants, infured a sena belonging to them with the Ap-
pellant., to this country. An agreement was afterwards en-
• ...red into, by which the Infurera agreed to take all rifk upon
thernfelves, provid..d the infured proved that the veffel was cap-
tured by the French, who condemned her as a prise. The quef-
tion was, whether the proceeding of the French Court ought to be
conclufive is our Courts By a number of decilions it had been
fixed that it was. The majority of the Judges, however, were of
opinion, that the fubfequent agreement between the parties de-
ftroyed the &eel of this circumitance. The majority for the Re-
fialndent was fit to four.
The Loan CHANCELLOR thought that the Houfe ought to pack
before it came to a final &anon, and, therefore, propofed that the
farther eomudtration Mould bipoßponed till Tburfday. Ordered.
The Royal Agent was given, by Commiffion, to the 'rah Army
of Referee Bill, the Lottery Bill, the Scotch Militia Families Bill,
the lath Workmen Combination Bill, and fosse others. The Com-
millioners were the Arelthifacip of Cantabury, the Lord Chan-
cellor. and Lord WalSnghans.
The Mos Import and Export Bill was road a third time, and
polled.
The Five Million Loan Bill was committed, and reported.

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1 hree Bills were brought up from the CAIIII/101111, among which
was the Drifted Port Bill by Mr. .
A Petition, Bated by twenty thou and perfons, was pretested
againit the principle of the Woollen Clothier's Bill.--Ordered to
lie on the table.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS._

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A Wage from the Lords Intimated their Lerdalps• concur-
rence in the Lottery Bill, the frith Additional Army Bill, and
(.41.1en Anne's Bounty Amendment BBL
LORD MAYOR of LA radon gave notice, that be would to-
morrow move for leave to bring in a Bill to enable the City of Lao-
don to raise its own quota of the Army of Rcferve.
The 5ec...... at WAR prefented a Bill foe rendering fubfer-
vilest to Military Difeipline all &dean% Drummers, Fifers, and
mhers who dull receive permanent pay in any Volunteer Corps.--
Bead the bra time, ordered to be printed, and road the fccond time
to-morrow.

A Menge was brought from the Lords, requiring the atten-
dance of that Houk to ►ear Ids MaSeßy's Co"-''sillio read, for
dedaring the Royal Affent to certain Bilk.
Mr, 8 attended forthwith, and bring returned, reported
die Bills to which the Royal Meat had been declared.

CHEST AT ChATH•SE•
Sir C. Pots moved for leave to bring in a Bill to
improve the Funds of the Chea at Chatham for the
more effeftual relief of feamen who were the objets
of that Bounty, and for transferring the Adminiara-
• tion thereof to the Commiffioners for the Affairs of
Greenwich Hofpital.
Sir W. El.roao thought, that a maitre of this
fort ought not to have been brought forward, founded
as it was upon the fecoad report of the Commiffion-
ors of Naval Enquiry, without fira reading that re-
port, in order to thew the Houfe what inflame of
nsal-adminiaratioa in the conduit of thofe who had
adminiftered the difburfements of the Chea at Chat-
ham exifted, to render this Bill necefary. If any
fuch inftance was proved to exift, no man would
more readily accede to fuch a Bill than himfelf. But
as it did not appear that any inftance of milconduft
had exifted in that Adminitlration, which it was not
in the power of the Lords of the Admiralty to cor.
red, without having recourfe to a Law for transfer-
ring that Adminiftration to hands totally new, he
was ftrongly oppofed to fuch a principle as that of
totally changing the Adminiftration of the Fund,
when the detect, if any, could be remedied without
fuch change. The only fault which be faw fpecified
in the evidence flitted in the report was, that one
eflate might be famewhat underlet: but Purely this
could be remedied, without having recourfe to Le-
&illation.
Mr. STUZGrs faid, that no man more heartily con•
curred than be did, in the with of &curing every pof-
fible comfort for the brave defenders of their country
in old age. But he could not on that account fee the
neceffity of a Bill to remove to Greenwich Hofpital
the adminiaration of a fund, which the originalfonn-
ders themfelves had placed in Commifiloners of their
choice two centuries, and in which, from that time
to this, no inftance appeared of peculation or fraud,
nor of any thing which would in any degree crimi-
nate thole in whoa hand the adminiitration of that
fund had been fuccelfively veiled. So far from that;
it appeared, by the account of Taft year, that the
amount of that dilburfement was Thoool. and the
espences of that stilburfement not more than t sod.
and he would Mk, in what part of any public expen-
diture could the commilLon be Co moderate .Why,
then, he wifhed to know, was the adminifiration to
be Low transferred from the hands of men who had
devoted their whole lives to the naval fervice of their
Country, to thole of others entirely new, though of
whole integrity he entertained no doubt whatever,
but many of whom were never in the fea fervice ? In
looking to the report on this fubjet, the only inflame
which appeared to warrant the declaration of the
Naval Commifiloaers, that this fund had been cul-
pably admini tered, was the evidence of anAttorney,
that he believed one of the castes had been !Owe.
what underlet. Very poll-114y the managers of the
fbnds might not he fo well verfed in the difpofal of
real pr .prr.rty, as many others more eonverfant in the
management of Poch bargaPos. But did it appear
that Any enquiry I. ad been made what exertions had
been uled bg the Cantatiflioaers for dSpoling of this
elta:e, or drat they could have diCpofed of it on better
t-rots? certainly not; but as unqualifl:d decbtatioa

of cenfare is made againft them, and this Bill intro-
duced to take oat of their hands the management of
thole foods, contrary to the caprefs intention of the
original founders. Suppuf: a timilar unqualified
charge had been made aping all the Governors and
Truifees in the kingdom, who adoninifter the fluids
of liofpitals and other public-charities, or of Friendly
Societies; and that a Bill was brousht into Parlia•
ment, founded upon fuck a declaration, to transfer
the management to other hands totally new, and un-
acquainted with the nature of thole charities and
their direetion, exprefsly contrary to the intention of
the original founders, what would the Houfe fay to
fuch an attempt ? It had been (hied that the manage-
ment was under a flufluating Board; fome of its
Members, he allowed, might have been fo, but by
no means the principal number; and notwithftanding
any thing that had been alledged againft the manage-
ment in their hands, their accounts had (hewn, that
within the Taft fix or (even years, their funds had
been confiderably improved, and purchafes made for
the fund of above 70001. in lards. In declaring hit
thong objet ion to transferring trom the prefentCom-
miffioners the management of this fund, he (puke not
his own opinion merely, but that of a Committee of
that Honourable Houfc fo long ago as in the year
1798. For it was then propofed to bring in a Bill
not to transfer the management, but merely to dimi-
nillt the number of the Commiffioners. But after
duly confidering the matter, the Committee de-
clared their opinion, that, notwithftanding it might
be, in fume itiflancet, expedient to diminiffi the
number of Commiffioners, yet, as it was the with of
the original founders of the fund, that it fhould be
managed upon the exifting plan, it was more advi-
feable not to change it. He hoped, therefore, the
Houfe would well confider how far the prefent Bill
was expedient, jilt, or neceffary, before they adopt-
ed it.
Sir WILLIAM ELFOID Paid a few words in expla-
nation. . .

Mr. Comore thought the difeuflion irrelevant
and premature. The Report of the Commitlioners
of Naval Enquiry was not the queflion before the
Houfe, but merely a motion for leave to bring in a
Bill, which was conceived to be necefrary to correfl
exifting abufes. In the comic of difculling that Bill,
the Houfe would have ample opportunity for enquiry
into the juftice of the grounds upon which it was
brought forward; and of rejefting it, if it fbinild ap-
pear juft fo to do. Allufion had been made to the
management of Come of the Eftates bequeathed to
that fund. Now it appeared in evidence, that of two
eftates bequeathed to the fund in the reign of Charles
ll.—a period of is° years—the one had increafed in
value but 301. a year, and the other 401.
Admiral B raid, that very ftrongeompraints
had long exifted againft the Adminiatation of that
Fund, which it was in the power of the Board of
Admiralty to coned if they chofe. Six months agn
he had himfelf complained to them, of a very flagi-
tious inftance of mikondutt then exilting, which they
then promifed to come. From that time, till the
prefent, they lett it without remedy, and now it was
thrown upon the !boulders of the Board of Naval
Enquiry, who, in fat ~had properly nothing to do
with it. .

Mr. Kintiatao raw Come particulars in the fecond
Report, upon which he hoped to have Tome explana-
tion. There was an item in the account of Chatham
Chell, Rating a deficit of 00001. of which film
24,0001. was charged as given to the Right Hon. Henry
Dundas, by Privy Seal. Now, he begged to know, on
what account, or for what public fame that cum was
given ?
Mr. Rosa anfwered, that during the period that
Mr. Dundas was Trafurer of the Navy, a Clerk in
a confidential department had embezzled a confider-
able Cum of money in his cuftody, by employing it
in trade for his owa account. and that he failed and
was a Bankrupt. It was, of courfe, charged to the
Treafurer of the Navy ; and it became matter of en-
quiry, how far the charge to him was jull ?—But it
appeared, upon the &Ilea invelligation, that the cir
cumltance was not chargeable to any want of vigi.
lance on his part ; and therefore the order under privy
teal was ifued to difcharge the Cum from his account.
Leave was given to bring in the Bill.

CAPTAIN W.

The Sect a at WA a ddlvered to the Honfis• Mane from
hi. Mikity, That Captain Barlow, of a Royal Regiment of
Guards, and a Member of that Houk, flood charged with im-
proper condsdt. contrary to the Articles of War, sad had born
pat under arreft, in order to Band his trial by Court Martial for
(aid charge." The ?Adage being ordered to be catered to the
Journals,
The Sac aaaaaa at WAR moved an bumble Aare(' to hls
)idy for his gracious Mange, and his regard thereby masifelled
for the privileges of this Houle.—Agread to nem. con. and or-
dered that the Luse be pretested to his htajefty in the socultomed
form.