Star.
London, England, 1819-02-26 00:00:00

gt:ettainl!
Was
that
that
kiii,froot '
o.c not, he
'of making 0,
of custos had

vious on the
(Hear.) He _
the effect of which, whatever thelntentig) aolleTra
was to stop up the streams of hereditary
Without entering into the calculations of the Right
Hoe. Gentleman, who conceived that the expenses of
postchaise-horses and post-boys might be covered by
£1,500 a-year, he would say at once, that he saw and
knew enough when he coupled ordinary expenditure
with the generous disposition which belonged ,to
him by Whom it must be incurred, -to indispose
him to any attempt to gauge the amount either
of the expenditure or the disposition.—(Hear.)--'
He would not discuss the question, therefore, whe-
ther 10,0001. as proposed in the original resolution}
or 5,0001. as recommended in the amendment, or
1,5001 as suggested by the Right Honourable Gen:.
ileman, was the mot fit and proper sum. If, as had
been urged by an Honourable Gentleman, (Mir. W.
Long Wellesley,) there existed any incompatibility •
between• the office of Commander-in-Chief and that
of Custos, and that it must be difficult for any one
person to discharge the duties of both, this was an
argument against the appointment of his Royal High-
ness to the latter osce. It should have been ad-
vanced when the Bill was first brought down to them
from the other House, and the objection plainbr
stated, that his Royal Highness's time was sufficiently
engaged '
in the exercise of his military functions. He
trusted that the Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr.
Tierney), with all his laudable zeal for economy,
would net turn round upon them, and say that he
bad approved of the appointment of his Royal High-
ness to this office, because in him he expected to get
a cheap Custos---(Loud cries ?f hear front the Minis-
terial side). Had any bargain or compromise been
iji contemplation, a different course would have been
pursued. But the fact was, that the office had been
accepted without hope or assurance; it being left un-
conditionally to the House of Commons, to deter-
mine whether they would vote to his Royal High-
ness the same provision which had been granted to
his Royal mother, for the discharge of the same trust.
Let them pay him, therefore, or pay him not, the
Country was already sure of his services—(Hear).
;kit the message delivered by his Noble Friend, on a
former night, from his Royal Highness, had not
escaped animadversion and censure. A Worthy Al-
derman (Mr. Waithman,) had talked of the indigna-
tion which that message had excited in his mind, and'
of the astonishment with which he had heardthat his
Royal Highness was more willing to accept a grant
from Pgliament than to plunge his hand 'into his
father's purse—(A laugh, and cries of hear, hear).--
He could hardly conceive how reeliugs of that de-
scription could be awakened by the indicann of a
principle less intent on the acquisition of gain, than
scrupulous as to the sources from which it should be
derived. He had hardly expected to find such a dis-
position stigmatized as less honourable than that de-
scribed as rem twos, rem
" 8t possts racte, si non etiocamene modo rem,"
if, as he understood to have been conceded on the
other iide;sthe privy purse was a sacred fund which
coald'not be invaded— (A lcud cry If " No, no !" from
the Opposition.) He considered that at least that
question was set at rest by the result of the last dis-
cussions and if the Right Honourable Gentleman
meant' now to contend that the Custos ought not to
•be paid at all, they had been engaged op the former
night in a most preposterous debate, It was the first,
instance which he had met with in his parliamentary
experience of a debate and a division on a'mere hy-
pothesis--on a question mooted for no other purpose
than to grltify a speculative curiosity. If the Right
Honourable Gent:gni:in had succeeded in his attempt
to induce the House to sanction and adopt his amend-
ment, he would no doubt have reaped ample satis-
faction; but into what a scrape would he not have
led the House, which he was afterwards to convince
that no grant whatever ought to be made? (Laughter.)
What would the young acrd unskilled slembers have
thought of their situation? He must entreat them
to be on their guard against "that itight Honourable
Gentleman. There was little danger when he de-
viated into what he intruded to be pleasann y—(lle-
riled cries 21" Hear, bear!" manifcsliteg strong dis:
satiyAction fetal; the Members of the Opposition.)--
Neither did the Right Honourable Gentleman, when
he indulged in general declamation, make any great
way ; but it was when he assumed the earnest tone
of plain straight-forward sincerity, that he became
alarmed for the inexperienced Members—(The whole
of this allusion was received with a very expressive
r).—lf the affirmative of the Right Honourable
Gentleman's late proposition was correct, the House
ought to have been engaged that night iirmaking the
grant. good out of the privy put se—( Cries ofquestion,
gnettpa).•Had not the Right Honourable Gentle.
man distinctly avow, that he thought 10,0001. a
proper sum, if it shVuld be taken from the Privy
Purse ?—(Mr. Tierney here said }cross the table, that
be certainly had not the slightest objection.)—This,
then, he n6w understood for the first time, and he was
sure the public had not hitherto so understood it—
(Loud indications of dissent and surprise).--He had
never looked forward to such a proposition as the pre-
sent; for the whole argument of the Right Hon. Gen-
deman's friends was, that no great Ought to be made.
Now that he understood the argument or the Right
Honourable Gentleman himself his Imswer was, that
•
the Privy Purse, not by any iniserent virtue belong.
ing to it, but from the spanner in which it bad been
dr.& with by successive Acts of Parliament, hadite-
come the peculiar and private proppty or the CoArtig
k was originally part of the Os& list; Wan*
any character of sanctity attached w it. Bet it s 1
beginning of the present reign, as Pediment lota
fered to regulate the Civil Last, they
vete property is the King. The 4rreete9jo4l:4lle nor
sect acknowledgosenta was in 17$0, is a
of which Mr. Burke was the nark( t , endiri:la
the Act of 1781 which he
a further acknow was Me di
rip by !wß:rail=t rms. assist
recognitions the sane OW* esise.emidisail
and adopted by the Act al 1611 I aid the aim*
of private property was specifically *dated by die

•

J enable the nag to aiipose of: "di had tadvided, that the ebullition of public helix_
V, the flood asks: gendot dm& palled "Illifthisillware than en effert__ .nl!da hy him. He hae a1,,12r0
I:d:ire: 2, .tbig dipropotraggetembfisise4whichdisposhaf:sl:o:fmnuthotoopiriet:
,I! rantpiliminkl2l,. riages.l6laNtialathluseglielseet fabeeggndesrerit"4"ed 7111:114:°(;:weuwelaremfrosnita•I:ltothttielial:111'.:111;aretamedcinirdefaz:rgt:1171:111;
• brevity for
Having thus simply enutne- I Zia
wwv)-0
wie ItteaMning Mins"' in lowaIowa pra„,7
by which the legislature had i Wader to Mr. Lamb? and Goa kl. whether he bad eves
new that—,,:
and destination to the fund in I spedlorwith firsedity of himself. With respett.to the ek,„-:
.attain the-moo nefinther than against Friedamen, it confirmed the intimathut th-1
was the object of the Whip, to pun down the thara ei.
iii refer ahortly to What had fallen in the former de- worthy man, which be defended from the us 'et" ..1
bate from an Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Scar. out 'phut hist in the Morning Chronicle,
and
enzit,:dt'arc,
lett.) The Hon. and Learned Gentleman, appearid, adumargeSesoiieweif dbappoiatedie being behind on demi"
however, tQ spook from book—he bad examined the boa
_ siasobsi WNW with the hope of final success. 'A
3k. Lana then came forward. Notwithstanding the .„.
acts, and could net find in either'of them a single
be said, that the Whip had abandoned th • I -
etr eider i
word of the language employed with referenee to the trills aN,Ahmaga'to gain ground, and to suppi his
.y opponent'
7t
Civil List. The reason was obvious—neither George, addidonel ties of skewing his fortitude, as was •
the First nor George the Second, had made any sur. by hie Ineking on while his cause was on the dechae,
be is
rimenshilinaestfolfiltnheg awwalkhile.—to we the Gentleeless.
render of their hereditary revenues, but had received tlinA:al
rward dcoL2dligh elad
4"u%
u amines. lie lu
a sum of £190,000 a-year in addition to them. All,
however, that was now asked for was, that the same day. twos of the
Whig, that vasthe grossest of falsehoods; others said toy
sanctity should be observed respecting it, as would
been canvassing at the Instigation of Lord Castlereagh.
be :Hewn to the meanest subject, whose rights were6ete
another gross falsehood. He had never seeured by an 'Act of Parliament. It was nothing to demo but once, and that was on the 14411 C,
srriktia
him to be told that the King was infirm, and Inca- , when his Lordship earne to give his vote he lig,i4 %mil
pable of enjoyment ; that he was deaf and could not He was the Mead of no party, and he sebswiltdthi as pa
dpi, in the whole business hot tine et Pwiur et !Chain. I
hear; or that he was blind, and could not write.—
was glad the Such topics furnished to his mind no justification for .„„iks„o Meeting was in good lounew—aoughter, sppy.
doing him a wrong—(hear.)—lt was not possible fisr. P.Weuma said a few words; when the Meeting divert
for him to forget what the King had been, in the con- TWELFTH DA. V.
teinplation of what he now was. One half of that State of the Poll this day at One &Clock :
period during which the House of Brunswick had • Mr. Lass - - - - - 5175
governed these realms—a period which had been ea ldr. 110/01004k - - - - 26R2
r- _ Mr. Lamb polled this morning 229-41 r. Ilcbheuse 14
phatically described,as the reign of liberty--had =had been - -- --- - 7'
passed under his Majesty's happy rule. For nearly
thirty years it had been passed amidst perils and
storms which threatened the stability of his Throne;
and the independence of his kingdom, without the -
reproach or suspicion of a fault attaching to his cha-
racter. in his present melancholy condition,
" AU nature left a blank,
" And knowledge at one entrance quite shut out!"
A ruin, it was true, but a vcaerabie ruin : his iefir-
*skies were any thing but an argument against his
rtglits. He had been " scathed by HEAVEN'S light-
ning ;" but the blow which blasted had likewise con-
secrated him. Ile yet lived,
et trunco non faordibus elicit umbram !
He should conchae by repeating, that the only fund
out of which those %rho resisted this proposition were
Willing that the money should be taken, was a fund.
rendered sacred by mere than one express act of the
Legislature.—(Loud cite, ing.)
Mr. SCARLET T had no intention of saying' more.
than would be strictly netessary to set himself right,
with the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Canning). The
Learned Gentleman then read the preamble to the
Ist of George the Second, containing all the expres-
sions he had formerly used, with the exception of
those of " loyal effusions ;" but which', however, he
thought very properly introduced, as this applied to.
the subject in debate. But as the Honourable Gen;
tlemarf, (Mr. Canning) was fond of studying in the
school of -oratory, as in high-sounding phrase and
pompous line, he would perhaps be desirous of some
splendid models, he (Mr. Scarlett) could not only re-
fer him to the loyal times of George the Second, for
pomp and circumstance, and glare, distracting and
glitter that only cheated, but to the reign of Henri
the Eighth, in which his loyal rarliarnents„in elo-
quent and glowing language, enabled the King to
devise away the whole kingdom by will !—(Near,
hear, mid laughter).
Mr. UROUGIIAM said, st that **bier et the slobs be
should abstain front entering into a lengthwise' apse& I.
could not, however, but remark upon the observatieetafrall
Right Hon. Gentleman, that his Honourable and
Friend had confined his attention to epee/hes that had becnme.
viously delivered; yet, be must say, that the Bight Hon. Ow
Henna had committed a defect of which b 5 allowir had illit.,
plainest; for in point of het the Right Hengsobb gamma
bad not only made former speeches the tojest el fib
hut had endeavoured to divert the House, hi thews
to any topic but that which was before the . Au,
madversion bad been made upon 'his Right Hon: lend, Whew
reel"
assertions, however, had been anis-sewed ; he never pledged
himsaif to the grant of 410,C00, but he distinctly said, this
so lOng as the amount was chargtil upon the Privy Pane or the
Duchy of Lancaster, he cared not how much : but he would
not r.enseut to its being borne by the Public - Maw, hearj....
The Right Hon. Gentleman had, however, continued to avoid
answering the speech of his Right Honourable Friend. It bad
also been said that there was no plea4l,l the Opposition, whether
they came with detailed accounts, or with the stattescnt le the
gross, it was equally unpalatable. He would inform the Hesse
whin was offensive to the Opposition—it was the famine
mode in which the measure had been introduced. His Mepay's
Ministers did not come boldly to the House and &dare that
the XlO,OOO was as a salary to be attacked to the Oki; bet.sey
they, we ask it for necessary mesas, eltbeigh be wield ak,
them to prove that necessary charges to ww4e•de part oldie MIR
received be proved. Another trick was, that the swpandbillty
that ought to attach to themselves was throws wpm thooduess.
and the odium was borne by choir Maoism =bedsit,
and nteasures were screened under that • ow dim
not propose in open and manly terms. Then
Clestientan had triumphantly exclehoed that
Et
Coseedstee's investigation bad been ealy two ppershe
.t gimegdog to £600; but amended ediwprodoeed wee es
reduedas of the pensions on the fames Homeheigweeentieg
ele betwoon £7,000 and ammo. sad he wink/ wage to ins
that before the NOM Usti hewed urea the Oiseasittee, be
sever entertained an Idea Maids a retrenchment. Thin wee a
ghee got up tee rade whiiiien, nod they bid been heetleudiy
odd, that the Diktat' Tisk had emend epos his elite without
Ty 401 of obey ; aod tbkliebb last had die dicing is u
the threat that the Home would be etmered with haws,. by
- of extorting the mossy—(/fror her).
Caton:vs expiable&
withesw,'
s47—Pee

THE EVENING STAR

LONDON.

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 1819.
TILE FUNDS.

PRICE Or STOCKS THIS OAT AT OWE O.CLCCK:
5 per Cent. Reduced 75il—Cons.151 71-i•
Cons. for Acc. 75iff —3l :ter Cent. 8581; S 5
4 rier Cent. 95fi 94f-5 per Cent. Navy 1051,
Bank Long Ann‘ 19 15-16 20—Imp. Anus. 74
India Bonds 56 58 pr.—Each: Bills (21) 1 9 pr far
Commercial 1 dis. •

The depression la the Fonda yesterday, occasieoed an atria!
dinary dismay among the monied interest, as no political or de
made cause was assigned for the fall.. When they felt to 7si
toe Money, a general panic seized the Market, and it is cid,
that had it not been for the interference of the Jew comedies,
*Amber depression of two per Cent. 'would have taken place.
This party; finding their ends answered in bringing the h+ Acts
to the- present price as Bears, took in upwards of two milieu
of Stock. The consequence was, a re-action took place, and
Consols left off at 75i Rainey. In the course of yestraii
limbilear M 6 ton dimes t dimwit, bat they have this (14
risen from 3to 0 prim. and prevaith z opinion is, that Mi-
nisters must either fund theta, or they will be at a discount of
SO. Console this morning commenced at 74 )lousy, and 751
for Account; they went to TS Money, and 75i for Account, tut
again fell to the forma
_prices.

There was another animated debate in the House
of Commons last night, on the Windsor Establish-
ment. The Opposition contended, that though it
h 1 been ,decided that the £lO,OOO eras. to
Cosies should isot be taken from the Privy Purse, it
did not follow that this chaige should be laid upon
the people. The Ministers, on the division, hul
majority of 110.

• A French Mail arrived this morning, and brought
Brussels Papers to the 22d instant, but theii con-
tents are quite uninteresting. It a not true that the
Persian Ambassador brought with him to Vienna
any hones intended as presents for the Courts of
Austria, Fratice, and England. The fine horses seen
in his cavalcade, and which gave rise -to the report,
were lent from the Emperor's stud. A second plot
against Eradhas, it is said, bean formed in Valencia.
The number of persons there imprisoned is conside-
rable, and great discontents pte►aiL

The new French Ministry have been left in a mi-
nority of 40, in the Chamber of Pears, on an impor-
tant question, namely, the Law of Elections.

an n. linatioser.ll4o—The habeas Valls, from &soden
bed to Portnewoh, which was on shore en the spurn Nos
hike up on Isindaisitrt of the *Mos ord. gine
the linfinneps headed with pommies, wse loam de
and ! The Urine went ow to this
wised whoa she kst wane an ahaspbrit the erser.wtth singular
=I refitted to.lelve her. The boat went oh a wood
Fier, as alight was lasted at about kW pest eleven o'clock.
but~ they gm so near as to bear some of the crew allies
"wit, tkey could not cape hay a this. It'sppean
Ad the oilleineds sunk in deep watte.—The Here, Urquhart*
was fiat Whit nit, without damago—she only landed a mud
pit et het eery, which will be shipped immedfitely.
Lanz•en. IN.—Wind Oipeey, Lorimm,fron
Udine lo disport. was wricked but idght near Mocks U
tbs cargo_seved.
FWAFAILY .i
and blows Amur
C Sailed
Pomo', with mailmailtrulskt the Iris Fetch
this day the Chichester
a man and passage/5.
Charlotte packet. Chfuin
mail asd,pasaeagers. Came is
of Portsmouth, having lost he
s the sloop lively, of Chi-
al") 'AMIE'. Captain
coming from Antwerp with
s peas Boulogne in the pie
with aU her crew.
W. Bailedisia BajectY's
Liffey, for Lisbon
a ermine; alto. the
finems, for 134unos

, 116.—We bave had but
Maisslay, yet. from the
livr at that dpy's
Maim doing, and prices
for qr. below Mor.day's
assuumpdoti at prescat
slr *lowly, at a redoc-
Inflart llifoladay's Fritts

4s. 6d. es Ss. a per
hal, is. to7s. Ark Ss.
Marisa—Beasts, 611;
Al Het
.11:4; Lisp, Pa
1111010160.45. too ?I. 14s.

Ewa PIO"'

rtainly say that a castes, though a -Queen Aee gppeedia 1799, to ens
vas a responsible person. Ile could not 4114 it by will. Vy tl
t Queens had been appointed Regent, and by realiatrit 11114,•th
t was an' office of respondbflity.—Weer, Wand already
the Olipetition.) Bat *A ether this ere so 41due set apart assilitaddlig
supposed that Parliament had the' power Having thus with a bruit
; an office responsible; and that the office apolegtm—(A laag4.)
ad been so mader be thought vast be ob- rated *bat series of note by
the least consideration of the subject.— given a nip character and
He knew mat how to assent to a propoodtifn, questjea,he world details

waifrof extertialndeirecr(Meor Atm).
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.. . last Milk the Lord Duncan packet, Oassis
gaugers wereerdered to withdraw, when the HOMO &meg. and wining, foe Oaten.' Anived last 1
For lje Chidinal gateden del—For the Amencinont in— . pad" groin 4hda, whit a mail. Med ti
majoriej 110.
packet, Captain Rums, for Calais, with a
The other Order, 4 ebe De6rs elm &weed of and the Arrived this afternoon the Princess Char
Mouse adjourned at Haltpmt o'clock. Hamaitos, from-Ostend, with a mail andq
WE3TIifINSTZE ELECTION. the schooner William andeMary, of Porten
masts in the gale of Tuesday last ; also the
—,•.-7-ss ' chests', wick loss of bowsprit. The alooi
SLlMbilpit DAT. ' Mow. belonging so this pm* and combs
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