Star.
London, England, 1821-06-29 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. WIIITBRRAD gave notice, that on Tuesday next, he
would call the attention of the House to an Association, styling
itself the Constitutional Association--(Acne).
The Silk Bounties Bill was committed, and ordered to be
reported to-morrow.
The Consolidated Fund Bill was read a third time, and passed.
Mr. LINDSEY preiented a Petition front Certain Brewers
of Dundee and its vicinity, praying the repeal of a clause in the
Ist and Sd Geo. IV. c. 92, requiring Accounts and Certificates
of the Sale of Beer.—Laid on the table.
'rite Warehousing Goods Bill was read a third time, and passed.
' The Report of the Collectors of Customs (Irish) Bill was
brought up and agreed to, and the BM ordered tube read a third
time to-morrow.

The Aeetutis Acid:and Draining Tiles Bills were reported, and.
ordered to be read a third time on Saturday.
Mr. COURTEN Air brought up certain Papers, pursuant to
an crder of the House, relative to the Burning of Widdws in
India, which were laid on the table, and ordered to be printed.
The 'Mohair klobntiev Bill and the Lagan Spirits Duties Bill,
ware read a third time, and paved.
The Hops Exportation Drawback Bill was reported, and or-
dered to be read a third time te-morrow.
The Greenwich Hospital 11111 was read a third time,.and passed.
Mr. JOHNSON' from the (Mee of the Chief Secretary for Ire-
land, fresenc'ect Accounts of &anis paid to the Editor of the
Dublin Gazette, for publishing Proclamations.— Ordered to lie
on the table.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved for
leave to bring in a Bill to empower the Comniiisioners for is-
suing Exchequer Bills. to -extend, in particular cases, the period
within which they were repaid.---Leave was giver, to bring in
the Rill, which was brought int read a first, and ordered to be
read a second time to-morrow.
The l'atket Ships' License Bill went through a Committee,
the Report of which was received, and ordered to be taken into
further consideration on Monday.
The Report of the Easf India Private Trade Bill was brought
up, and the Bill ordered to be restd a third time to-morrow.
The third reading of the Amused Taxes Composition Bill
was postponed till Monday.
Mr. BLAIR moved for Returns of the number of Gallons
of Spirits distilled foe home consumption, from January, 1820,
to 1821, and other Returns.—Agreed to.
Lord MILTON presented a Petition from the Owners and
Occupiers of Land in the town of Kingston-upon-Hull, core-
Oakum of certain Rates imposed by the Corporation.—Ordered
to lie on the table.

Mr. Serksant ONSLOW moved that a Message should be
sent to the Lords, to acquest a copy of the !Lima made by the

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The Resolution for granting £20,000 to General
Desfourneaux having been read,
Mr. CALCR AFT proceeded. He read several
extracts from the Report of the Comptrollers of Ai my
Accounts, expressing the opinion of the Comptrollers
that there was not the least ground for the claim of
General Desfourneaux. In consequence of a letter
from the Duke of Kent, the Comptrollers examined
some fresh vouchers from the General,,and the result
to which they came in the second inquiry was, that
it confirmed-their opinion that the claim could • nct
be supported. He said he had no objection to a grant
of £1,400 or £1,500, which the Tteasury had ori.
ginally determined ought to be given to the General
as a compensation for the use of the hospital at Gua-
&loupe for our sick. He then alluded to the Report
of the Committee of that House, and which was
favourable to the claim ; but he said that, after an
examination of the evidence, he could not concur with
the Committee, and must, especially ate•time like the
present, give-his decided vote against the claim
Mr. T. WILSON conceived that the Comptrollers
would have acted more property and consistently
with their duty, had they confined themselves to the
simple declaration of their opinion against the claim.
--For his part, after examining with diligerite the
grounds of this claim, he was deliberately•of opinion
that it was supported in a manner that ought to carry
conviction to the minds of all impartial men.-. •
Mr. WA RRE said that the mole hecousidered this
subject, the more he was convinced that it ought to
be treated in the manner recommended by the lion.
Member for Wareham. .
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Mr. GRF:NFELL moved, /Is an amendment to the
Resolution, that the sum of 423,500 should be •sub.
scanned for the_ original sum proposed, that being
the claim allowed by the Treasury, .widr the interest
upon it—(Hear).

Mr. H..SUM.NER said that he did not agree with
his, lion. Friend, the Member for London, that the
honour of the nation was at stake upon the granting
of this claim. On the contrary, he thought, they
ought to relieve the country from that with which it
had been frequently stigmatised, namely, A too large
portion of gullibility!
Mr. W. BLEL stated his intention of voting for
the larger grant.
Mr. H. GURNEY thought the matter ought to be
referred to another Committee.

Mr. It—DOUGLAS defended the conduct of the
Committee appointed :c inquire into the merii. of

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the elabn. ..Hi4oegitt..that the Hon. Gentlemen op-
pe.siresseftaispes -110 tewtarges upon that Com-
mittee by unpile-01bn, hie h these proceedings
were by no means entitled.
Mr. R. PEEL had formed an opinion impartially
upon the papers which were brought before the Hensel
and he had come to the conclusionlhat the clainfs of
General Desfourneaux were completely unfounded.
He should regret extremely thar such a claim should
be admitted upon the ground of the inability to.make
such allowances from the-public money, yet he should
still more lament it, as establishing a precedent of a
:most dangerous description—(Hear).
Mr.M ANSFIELD expressed his intention of voting
for the amendment.
Mr. MONCK supported the larger grant upon the
principles of justice, although he was at all times in
favour of the most rigid economy.
• Mr. IRVING entered into an explanation of the
'views which the Committee had taken of the case,
and defended the conclusion at which they arrived of
recommending the granting of the claims. His ears
had been assailed at the door of that House and else-
where, with taunts and observations that this busi-
• ness was a job. He treated those taunts with indif-
ference, because he had only been actuated by a sin-
' -sere desire of doing justice. He had first undertaken
. the case from motives of compassion ; and when all
tiro documents were laid before him, he was fully
convinced that General Desfourneaux was entitled to
everything which he claimed. To whatever decision
the House should come, he should bow with respect.
But at the same time he felt that the honour of the
nation would be sullied by a refusal of any part of
the sum claimed.'
• Lord BINNING fully concurred in the sentiments
expressed by his Hon. Fi lend, the Member for Ox-
ford, with regard to the merits of the claim before
the House. He thought, however, that there was
another article, besides the I:1,100 allowed by the
Treasury, upon which the claims seemed to be well
founded. He therefore hoped that the Hon. Member
would alter his Amendment, by making the sum 5,0001.
Lord CR ANBORNE said, that he had examined
the subject before the House, under strong suspicion
that all was not right. He was now the more con-
vinced of it, and should oppose the Resolution.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that the Treasury bad only allowed the sum of
•£1,400, because that was the only claim for which
vouchers were produced. The House would, how-
ever, act upon the other evidence now before it.
Every Member must vote according to his own views
of the justice of the claims. For himself, as a mem-
ber of the Government, he felt bound by the decision
of the Committee to which the whole matter had
been referred for inquiry.
Sir F. OMMANEY spoke against the Resolution.
The House then divided—
For the original Resolution
Against it

Majority against it - —47
On the re-ad.nission of strangers to the gallery,
Mr. T. WlLsow was addressing the House.—After a M
few observations from him, r. Goavox, Mr. In.
VINO, Mr. GRENFELL, and Lord Btamso, the House
again divided upon the amended Resolution.
For the amended Resolution - 41
Against it - • - tit
Majority - ••••210
Mr. HUME took occasion, on putting the vote for
defraying the expense of the convicts at home, to ask
in what manner those convicts were clothed—whe-
ther it was by private bargain or public competition?
Mr. H. CLIVE replied, that one individual had
the clothing of the convicts for life. The terms,
however, were particularly advantageous to the Pub-
lic.—.He was enabled to say, that so much had every
thing been reduced, that each convict did not cost
the country £2O a year, and very many not so much.
Mr. HUME observed, that it was impossible the
Public could have such good terms by this sort of
dealing, as if the thing was the subject of public
competition. He wished to know whether the victual-
ling of these persons was contracted for?
Mr. CLIVE said, at present he was unable to go
tit° details, but if the Hon. Member would wait for
another day, he would give him every satisfaction.
Ile could only state as to the whole expense of each
convict.
Mr. HLTME said, the ignorance of the Hon. Gen-
tleman was another proof of that carelessness which
too many men in office in that House so often exhi-
bited. The victualling of the convicts cost 090,000
alear, and surely the Hon. Gentleman ought to be
able to say whether it was done by private bargain
or public contract. In the absence of information, he
would move, that this matter stand over till to-morrow.
Mr. CLIVE said, the victualling and clothing were
Ore upon the lowest terms—not, however, by public
competition, but by calling upon several persons to
make tenders, and then accepting the lowest.
Mr. HUME said, that was the worst plan for
saving. which could be resorted to. The 'fact was,
these individuals met beforehand and settled the
prices amongst them, so that there was not a farthing
difference in their tenders. It might be true that the
lowest tenders were accepted ; but it did not follow,
therefore, that the articles were obtained upon the
cheapest terms.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, his Hon. Friend had no
objection to postponing the matter till to-morrow.
On the Resolution for a sum to make up the Fee
Funds of the Secretaries of State's Offices,
Mr. HUME hoped they would be brought under
separate heads in the Estimates.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
a better way would be, to skew the amount of fees in
the various departments.—The Resolution was then
agreed to.
On the grant of £50,000 to the Mint,
Mr. HUME wished to kpow what it was for?
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, the Bank wanted a large
coinage, the expense of which was estimated at
rr5,000 ; but then there were £15,000 in hand.—
Motion agreed to.
On a sum of 1:3500 for printing Journals,
Mr. HUME said, he knew they could be done
equally well for £l5OO. tie therefore would move,
that the suet be reduced by £2OOO. -
Mr. ARBUTHNOT hoped the Hon. Member
would not press his motion, as Government was in-
clined to grant a Committee in the nest Session, in
order to inquire into the heads of economy. •
The SPEAKER said, the mode was to take a
grant on account, the Speaker certifying, that a cer-

tafn quantity of work had been► executed ; and then
the Treasury inquired into the propriety of the charge.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, the Treasury referred
the quantity of work done to the opinion of the East
India Company's Printer ; and he putting a value
on it, the amount was either allowed or disallowed,
as he declared the charge to be proper or not.
Mr. H. SUMNER said, there were great charges
in consequence of the immense number of Papers
moved to be printed by Hon. Members.
Mr. HUME said, the expenses might be reduced
one-half, both in printing and stationery, for the pub-
lic departments.
Mr. H. G. BENNETT thought that Members
ought to have Copies of Works ordered to be pub-
lished by the House, especially of the new editions of
the Statutes, which were much fuller, and contained
references of great use to Members.
The SPEAKER said, this work was very slow and
extremely expensive ; and when delivered to Mem-
bers many ceased to be so before their sets could be
completed. The consequence was, that many volumes
were found for sale in different parts of the town. It
was then determined to place Copies in such Public
Institutions as would enable persons curious, or inte-
rested, to refer to them.
Mr. H. G. BENNETT thought the unsold Copies
ought to be distributed among the Members of
Parliament.
Mr. HUME wished to know, whether sums of
three, four, five, and £6OOO a-year had not been
voted to Sir I). H. Blair and Co. as King's Printers,
for printing the Records of the Kingdom of Scotland?
The SPEAKER said, these were for printing very
ancient Records of Scotland.
Mr. HUME wished an account of these sums to
be laid before the House.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, he should take care it
should be done.
Mr. I3UTTERWORTH complained, that some
persons sold Papers belonging to the House, and
made large sums of money by that means.—The
motion was then agreed to.
On the vote for printing the Journals.
Mr. HUME said, he had received information that
the Chancellor of the Exchequer had, in the course
of the week, been offered to have the Journals printed
for one-half the present sum.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, he would look at the
proposal.—Motion agreed to.
On the vote for keeping Criminal Lunatics,
Mr. HUME objected to confining even Criminal
Lunatics when they were pronounced sane, and were
no longer dangerous to the Public : Hadfield had
been sane for many years.
Mr. H. G. BENNET': said, all these persons had
committed crimes for which they had forfeited their
lives. They might appear sane until released, and
then commit a murder. Government had no interest
in confining them longer than necessary.
Mr. CLIVE said, that Hadfield was subject to vio-
lent paroxysms: and the Law Officers had decided,
that there was a power to confine him as long as his
release would be dangercus to the Public.
Mr. W. SMITH would consent to the vote, be-
cause persons would not commit capital offences in
order to be confined as lunatics.
Mr. HUME hoped the subject would be taken into
consideration.
Mr. N. CALVERT thought, that a lunatic 'con-
victed of a capital offence should not be let loose
again. A man might affect madness to commit
crime.—The Resolution was then agreed to.

On the vote for Consuls,
Mr. HUME thought this ought to be paid out of
the Consolidated Fund.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, the sum
on the Civil List was voted for a particular number,
but not for additional Consulates or Embassies.
Mr. HUME said, there was a fixed number to be
provided tor,and no more. The slim of nearly3oo,oool.
a-year was one-half more than they should pay for
all their Embassies or Consulates. All our Consuls
were much overpaid, and at Rio Janeiro one-half per
cent. was charged on all imports and exports for the
use of the Consul, who had, besides, £3OOO a.year. No
fees should be taken, as it opened a door to impchition.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that
many fortunes had been ruined in the diplomatic line,
so that the allowance could not be deemed too great.
Mr. F. ROBINSON said, that the fees at Rio Ja-
r.eiro went to the Contribution Fund, which did not
go into the pocket of the Consul, but was applied to
vario3s other purposes.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT stated, that the individuals
in question had served many years, and were far ad-
vanced in life.
Mr. W. SMITH knew many cases in which the
Consuls had very small duties to perform.
Mr. HUME said, that in general the Consuls were
Merchants, and that half of the expense could be
reduced.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that in
many cases the Consuls had no salaries at all. In
France only one of our Consuls had a salary.
On the Vote of £25,000 for Toulonese, Knights of
Yalta, and Corsicarr Emigrants,
Colonel DAVIES said, that when the Royal Fa-
mily of France was restored to the Throne, the claims
ofahese men had ceased. He wished to know, if the
Count Pozzo di Borgo, the Russian Ambassador at
Paris, received a pension from our Government ?
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, he had at one time re-
ceivecf a pension, but did not receive it now.
Colonel DAVIES stated. that he must oppose the
grant of £lO,OOO to the Toulonese. To the grant
of £BOOO to the Knights of Malta he must also ob-
ject, as many of them had married, and consequently
ceased to be Knights of Malta.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, that Count Pozzo di
Borgo had received a pension when he was an emi-
grant, but not since. The Toulonese emigrants stood
on a different footing from others, as they received
pensions for services done to this country. As to the
Maltese Knielts, it was not meant to continue their
pensions. 'the amount of them was froM £3,000
to £4,000.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that the allowance to the Toulonese consisted in pen-
sions to Naval Officers, as Lord Hood had taken
away all the ships from Toulon.
Mr. BENNETT said that the King of France ought
to pay the Toulonese, if they preferred his Govern-
ment to that of the day.
Mr. GOULBURN stated that the Toulonese had

rendered a great service to this country, and we were
bound to stand by the promises we bad made them.
Mr. AItBUTHNOT said the grant would not be

proposed in future.
On the Vote of £BB,OOO for the Thames Police

and Horse Patrol,
Mr. BENNETT said he should not object to the
vote ; but it was his opinion that the whole could be
much improved against anothes year.
Mr. W. SMITH complained of the inefficient state
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of the Police.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, at one
time the Police had been defective; but that had been
owing to the Horse Patrol, and a great part of the
rest of the Police, being brought down to Westmin-
ster. The Police had been much increased. There
has been lately a new distribution of the Police, and
a great diminution of crimes. The vote was for an
increased force.
Mr. BENNETT agreed in the propriety of the plan
that had been adopted, and said the Police had now
become preventive.
In answer to a question from Mr. Hume,
Mr. CLIVE said he would lay the accounts rela-
tive to the Police before the House to-morrow.
On the vote for Henry the Seventh's Chapel,
Mr. BENNETT wished to know who received the
money for seeing the monuments in Westminster
Abbey ? The state of the monuments was disgrace-
ful to the Dean and Chapter, and formed a marked
contrast to the state of the Cathedrals in the country
and abroad.
Sir CHARLES LONG agreed in what had fallen
from the Honourable Gentleman ; and it was a source
of much mortification that the monuments, after the
expense bestowed on them, were so miserably neg-
lected. He could only state that the Government
were in no way to blame. He was glad the subject
had been mentioned,
Mr. W. SMITH said that part of the Cathedral
belonged to the Dean and Chapter; and it was de-
sirable to know how much of the vote of £2,400 was
to be applied to that part of Westminster Abbey ? He
had heard that the revenues of St. Paul's had been so
much mismanaged as not to be adequate to repair
the cross and the ball. He had also heard that the
present Dean of St. Paul's had, at his own expense,.
made the requisite alterations. The building of St.
Paul's had, at different times, cost the country a mil-
lion. When he attended the funeral of the late Pre-
sident of the Royal Academy, the appearance of St.
Paul's struck all present as disgraceful.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that the Chapel of Henry VII. had been always re-
paired by the Crown, or by Parliament. lie ad-
mitted the truth of what had been stated ; but the
Dean and Chapter had expended €lO,OOO of their
own money in the repairs of the Abbey.
The Resolution was agreed to.
Upon the motion for a grant for the Establish-
ment at Sierra Leone,
Mr. WILLIAM SMITH took occasion to say,
that the individual appointed as Chief Commissioner
for Sierra Leone was a man who had received no re-
gular education, and who was wholly incompetent
to discharge the duties. Sir George Collyer, the
Commanding Officer on that station, had declared
that Mr. Gregory's imbecility had contributed in a
great measure to defeat the objects of the Commission.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that be
had transferred the appointment of the Commissioners
into the hands of the distinguished individual at the
head of the Admiralty, and of Sir C. Robinson, the
Advocate-General, who were best able to select per-
sons of professional ability. With regard to Sierra
Leone, no individual could be found, who was willing
to accept the appointment at £l5OO a-year, and the
salary was consequently increased to £BOOO a-year,
with a retiring pension of £BOO. Such was the dread
of the climate, that even then no professional Gent*
man could be found to accept the appointment, and
Sir William Scott accordingly recommended it to be
given to some intelligent commercial individual.—
The idea of a residence in Sierra Leone was so uni-
vet sally supposed to carry along with it the idea of
death, that he had never had a more terrific piece of
patronage at his disposal!—(A laugh).—He could not
but deprecate the course which the Hon. Gentleman
had taken, in deciding upon the merits of Mr. Gre-
gory on the mere dictum of a Naval Officer.
SMITH disclaimed having imputed any par-
tiality to the Noble Lord in making the appointment.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, that with all deference to
the statements of Sir W. Scott and Sir C. Robinson,

it was scarcely credible that there could be any diffi-
culty in finding a Gentleman of regular education in
the profession of the law, to fill an appointment of
C3OOO a-year, with a retn ing pension of £BOO a-year.
The profession of the law was by no means in so flou-
rishing a state, that among the junior branches of it
such an appointment would not be most readily ac-
cepted. He had no doubt that, when the statement
made by the Noble Lord went forth to the Public, it
would excite considerable astonishment, and produce
this good effect at least, that when the Noble Lord
should look out hereafter among the profession, some
tenders would be made to him, which would enable
him to get a better Judge, or the same Judge, at a
lower salary.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, he cer-
tainly had not advertised the appointments, but they
had remained a long time at the disposal of Sir W.
Scott ; and if there were so abundant a shoal of aspir-
ing young Lawyers, as the Hon. and Learned Gen-
tleman supposed, it was certain that they did not bite
very fast !—(Laughter).—Resolution agreed to.
On the Vote of £lOO,OOO for the new street from
Mary-la-bonne to Charing-cross,
Mr. HUME asked two questions with respect to a
charge of £ll,OOO for law expense, architects and
surveyors, and a sum of £l2OO for new salaries,
when it had been understood that the whole service
was to be discharged by the Commissioners for Woods
and Forests.
Mr. HUSKISSON said he had no objection to lay
the particulars of the law expenses before the House,
and with regard to the new salaries they had been
rendered necessary by the great extent of the labours
which had devolved upon the Commissioners.
After a few'words from Mr. W. SMITH, the Reso-
i lution was agreed to.
On the Vote for the Cape of Good Hope,
Mr. G. BENNETT asked whether any further en-
couragement had been given to the new Settlers in
the Cape of Good Hope ?
Mr. GOULBURN replied in the negative.

Mr. W. SMITH observed, that it was cr
most importance, that every means shoula
sorted to to prevent the extension of s!avery 7, :1:-;
Cape of Good Hope.
Mr. GOULBURN said, be entirely concurred w 77,
the Hon. Gentleman, and that no pet:A.l6on, 41
been omitted to accomplish that cresildble object.
Sir R. WILSON thought it worth the coaiki,.a.
tion of Government, whether it would not be
while to purchase the few remaining slaves in 64
Colony ?—The Resolution was then agteed to.
On the vote for building Churches and Gielte House;
Mr. HUME expressed a hope that no more mono
would be required from Parliament for that puri.n.,;
until they had ascertained what was done with 14
First Fruits and Tenths.

Mr. BENNETT said, not only the List N. 4
and Tenths, but, in his opinion, the whole 0,4,4
Establishment must undergo an investig.aion hitt
next Session.

After a few words from Lord MILTON, the Rata
lotion was agreed to.
On the Resolution for granting L. 7,000 for , 5.,1„ ,
ing Proclamations in Ireland,-
Mr. BENNETT adverted to the w:,4
prevailed in Ireland o(giving these Ploclamation,:,
particular Newspapers, as he believed for p
purposes. As a proof of which, a Proclanwins4
Laing to Carlow was not inserted in the Carta*, ,t
in the Inniskillen Newspaper, published above 6
miles distant. The lion. Member adverted to tt
stances in which Proclamations, having only t„.„
three months to run from the date of them, „..!
inserted in Papers five or six months after their
long after they could, by possibility, have any dm
He verily believed this was done a, a bongs totem;
Papets to induce them to abuse those individua.s;f4
were obnoxious to Government. tie was convito:
of this by the vile, gross, and abominable abase
her Majesty which has been inserted in differ(
Papers thus patronised—( Hear, hear).
Mr. GRANT assured the Hon. Member
on no such principle as that upon which he;,
mented. This was not a new grant. It had
for years, and the sum taken yearly had been
He had this year taken only £.7,000,•in hop,
ing able, by adopting the course pursued in
country, of sending Treasury Messengers
bute Proclamations, considerably to reduce
branch of public expenditure.
Mr. HUME thought th t the only way of
an end to the system was by refusing the -
cially as many sums voted under diffirent
were applied to the same purpose of corruption.
had alluded some time ago to the inst.—
Times Newspaper, fmm which Government
thought proper to withhold all their adverti
This was the more reprehensible, as Minister
have known that the circulation of the r
extensive as to render it an important in
the giving publicity to any act. That
paid no less a sum than £50,000 to Gc
the course of the last year.
Mr. DAWSON regretted that Government
lished their advertisements in Ireland in
most obscure and useless, as well as the
temptible and odious Journals, that ever
lished—he meant the Hibernian Journal
It had lately sent forth abuse upon the et.
Mr. Grattan, whose memory would ever be
and revered' by every Irishman who loved
try—(Cheers).—lt roused the indignation of
man in the country, that even the name of ,*
and good than should appear in this paltry at,
temptible Journal—(Hear, hear).—And during
late discussion upon the Catholic Question, it
mined paragraphs calci.lated to stir up the -
Ireland into acts of open rebellion—(Loud
Mr. GRATTAN said, on the Paper in
was not now disposed to waste an observation.
had seen the paragraph alluded to by the
able Gentleman opposite, and at the spur
meat he was induced to reply to it. He
the attention of the Right Honourable
(Mr. Grant) would be directed to the subject;
was unbecoming that the chat acters of men
their lifetime deserved well of their country,
when dead, be subjected to unmerited obl..quy.
Mr. DENMAN corroborated the statement
respect to the Times, and wished to know •
Secretary to the Treasury was prepared w deny
No answer being given,
Mr. HOBHOUSE wished to know wt.
House were to infer from the silence of the
ment that the statement was true?—ENo anst
Lord MILTON—" Surely the Chancellor
Exchequer will give some answer!"
No answer was given, and the grant
Sir ROBERT WILSON said, as the hour
late, and as many items would be brougl
that were likely to create discussion, he
would be prudent to adjourn the debate.
At the request of Mr. GRANT, he -
the remaining Irish Estimates be gone the
On the proposed grant for the Police ...,
Mr. HUME expressed a desire that this
stand over, as he had some observations to
upon the agistrates.
Mr. GRANT said, it was his intention '
next year a Bill to regulate them : at
Magistrates were divided into distric,
chosen by the Government, and twelve by
poration, three of whom were Barristers
Sheriffs' Peers.
Mr. HUME said, that under these
he shonld not oppose it.
On the proposed grant for the,
Mr. GRANT said, it was the in.
Gdvermnent to consolidate the two departve`
England and Ireland into one.
Mr. GRATTAN complained of the imt..
bee of barracks kept up in Ireland, and also
frequent use of the military power. By this
the civil power had almost gone out of use;
dier was employed upon eve: f occasion ; but
resolute Gentlemen would, in his opinion, do
so quell any disturbances that might arise,,
department considerable reduction might be
Mr. GRANT said Government were
to dispose of.as many old barracks as ecostible'
Mr. HUME said, there were in the city
at the Royal Barracks, a Barrack-master
puty Barrack-master. One of those, Sir
was, he understood, a renowned " City
and a red-hot loyalist—(Laughter). He'
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had no duty to perform, the country ihou!ti not pay
hire I:500 a-year, and he prayed the attention of the
Irish Secretary to it.
Mr. GRANT said, that this was one of the situa-
tions granted under the Act of 1797, and it became
extinct on the death of the present possessor.
Sir 11. WILSON again pres-ed upon the House the necessity
of adjourning the debate; on the propriety of which a conversa-
tion arose between the Marquis of LoNpoNDICRILY, Mr. Hums,
Mr. MONCIC, Mr. Di.01:01IAM, Mr. ARLUTHNOT, and :W. 110.
lIINSON' when it was finally agreed that the further consideratiod
of the Report should he adjourned till to-morrow.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at a Qu2rter to One eCiock.

taken with arms in their bands. Snch persons are
left at liberty, upon bail, and pursue their occupa-
tions without molestation ; but the greatest rigour is
shewn to the armed Hetarists. Thus on the 2d of
June, ten of Ypsilanti's armed band were taken in
a village, and executed in their black uniforms, at
the end of the bridge that leads to the Turkish camp.
Two Creeks of Bucharest, who had taken part in the
rebellion experienced the same fate.
The Caimacans of the new appointed Prince Calli-
machi had not yet arrived at Bucharest.
Crajowa is already occupied by the troops of the
Paeha of Widdin, which push their advanced posts
along the River Alata, in the neighbourhood of
Rionnite.

THE EVENING STAR.

LONDON•

FRIDAY,. JUNE 29, 1821.
ST. Pk-rim—Holiday at the Bank.

According to the testimony of an eye-witness,
Theodore, soon after his arrival at Pitescht; was sur-

prised by Captain Jordali, arrested and conducted in
chains, with a strong escort, to Ypsilanti, at Tergowitz.
At Constantinople, the Government was incessantly
occupied with armaments to suppress the insurrection,
and to destroy the Greek ships that infest the Archi.
pelago. Morali Pacha had gone with about 12,000
men to Romelia : he is said to have orders to enter'
Wallachia by way of Rudschuck. Cara Feizi, one
of the few Ayams of Romelia, had received the com-
mand of 7000 men, with which he is to join the
Pacha of Widdin, and advance towards Crajowa.—
On the ISth, another division of the Turkish fleet put
Ito sea, consisting of one 71, three frigates, and three
brigs. These, and a ship of the line which sailed on
the 25th May, after taking in the ammunition, &c. at
St. Stephano and Gallipoli, sailed to the Dardanelles.
They are said to be fine vessels, and well equipped,
but have not sufficient men, the rebellion of the
Greeks having deprived the Government of the best
sailors. The Admiralty had enlisted sailors of all
nations, who receive three months pay in advance.

The Nouse of Commons were last night chiefly oc-
cupied with the Report of the Committee of Supply.
Tie only division which took place was on the sub-
ject of the grant to General DESFOURNEAtn, for losses
atising out cf the occupation of Guadaloupe by Sir
C. Gan', in l7eJl•. Agreeably to the recommenda-
tion of a Special Committee, which had examined
into the General's claim, the sum of £20,000 bad
been voted to him in the Committee of Supply.—
Mr. GIIENTELL now moved, that the grant should
be reduced to £3,500, and was supported by Mr.
PEEL, Mr. CA I.CR r, and other Members. Mr.
Iftvoio, who was Chairmain of the Committee on
General DESPOUR NEA UN'S claims, contended that loss
to the amount of the greater sum propcsed had been
satisfactorily established. Mr. T.INs LsoN, Mr. M ANS•
}Ham, and Mr. K. DOUGLAS, were of the same opi-
nion. On a division, however, taking place, the Re-
solution for voting 1.'.'20,0(X) was negatived by a
majority of 53 against 6. Lord BINNING then moved
that the sum should be £5,000; but, on a second
division taking place, Mr. GRENFELL'S Amendment,
for granting only £3,500, was carried by a majority
of 41 against PI
Some importance attaches to this grant, from the
interest which we observe it has excited on the other
side of the Channel. The Constitutionnd, when con-
gratulating France en the. liberality which our Com-
mittee of Supply had shewn in voting £20,000, sub-
joined the following paragraph :
" We seize this circumstance to call to mind that General
Desfourneaux was not the only person who suffered losses by this
occupation. Several manufacturers of arms, and merchants of
Marseilles, worthy of the entire consideration of our Government,
saw the merchandize which they had deposited in the stores at
Guadaloupe and Martinique pass into the hands of the English.—
An inventory was made of them by the English, and their value,
which amounted to more than four millions (of francs), ought to
have beta restored at the peace to these manufacturers and
merchants; hut they have received nothing. If compensation
has been made to the French Government for this value, no
doubt these merchants have a right to be reimbursed by the
Treasury of France—if, however, the English Government has
not accounted for this value to France, these merchants ought,
like General Desfourneaux, to address the Parliament of Great
Britain. Their cause is too just not to find lasics to support
it, and Representatives to act rightly by them."

The Turkish Government had received very satis-

factory accounts from the Morea; and hopes were
entertained that the insurrection in that quarter
would be put down. Great enormities are said to
have been committed here on both sides. Patras
has been almost destroyed by the Turks ; and the
inhabitants have been executed in great numbers.
All the lonians who had been Vice-Consuls to the
Northern Powers, and had befriended the Insurgents,
had fled. But the English Functionaries remained
at their post, faithful to their charge. Vistizio, Argo,
Corinth, and the other principal places, were in the
possession of the Turks; and their ascendancy
throughout the Morea was established. The Turks
have been guilty of great atrocities ; but the Greeks,
it is said, set them the example, and even surpassed
them in bloodthirsty cruelty.

The Paris Papers of Tuesday arrived this forenoon.
They contain no domestic news of any interest, and
no other foreign intelligence than that which we
have already extracted from the Austrian Observer,
Five per Cents. Monday, 86fr. 70c.

It is now rumoured, that from the present state of
public business before both Houses of Parliament, the
Commons will adjourn on Tuesday next for a few
days, to afford the Lords time to proceed with the
Bills that may have passed the Lower House ; that
the Commons will re-assemble on the succeeding
Friday, to receive Messages from the House of Peers
as to the fate of the several Bills sent up to them ;
and that both Houses will be prorogued about the
Wl' or 10th of next month. .

The ensuing prorogation of Parliament will be by
Commission. The state of Palace-yard, and the
neighbourhood of bah Ilon-es, in consequence of
the extensive 'preparations making for the Corona-
tion, will prevent hi. MAJE4TY from exercising this
prerogative in person.

V extract from the Austrian Observer the follow-1
ing interesting particulars respecting the progress of,
:be war between the Turks and Greeks :

On the 3d of June the head-quarters of the Turk-
ish which has entered Wallachia, under the
command of Iladschi Ahmet Pacha, were in Calen-
tina, without the city, where there was a camp of
22,000 men, the half of which consists of cavalry.
The corps was to proceed against the rebels in a few
days. It seems that it was intended to wait for
.lussuf Paella, of Ibrailow, who is engaged in clear-
ing Moldavia of the insurgents, and is stated to have
immediately occupied Jassy, in order to act with their
united forces against Ypsilanti, who is still in his posi-
tion at Tergowitz, and seems disposed to occupy it
himself, with his corps of insurgents, which is stated
to consist of 10,000 men.

Bucharest itself was occupied by about five hundred
Turkish troops, under the command of Baschbeschil
Aga Tehir, an Albanian ; they were stationed in the
two strong forts of the city, the Metropolitan resi-
dence, and the Monastery of Radylawda. Perfect
order prevailed in the whole city, and the public peace
had not been a moment interrupted. All the inhabi-
tants, bo;h ►;atives and foreigners, are disarmed: the
first are obliged to deliver up their arms to a Corn-
mime appointed for the purpose ; the latter to their
respective Consuls. On the other hand, the Turkish
Commander has caused several Turks to be hanged
and beheaded, who had been guilty of excesses.
All persons, even those individuals who are accused
fl having I,cen connected with the rebels, are treated
with the greatest lenity, provided they have not been

THE ARMY.

NAVAL INTELLIGENCE.

A King's cutter is so be stationed In the Solway rrith, for the
prevention of smuggling, carried on then• to a great extent.
The frigate La Pronte has arrived at Cadiz from Vera Cruz
and the Hevannab, in 39 days, with ten millions of dollars, four
millions of gold, and one hundred marks in silver.
The Endracht, Dawes, from Dantzic to Amsterdam, was lost
on the 10th instant, on the coast of Pomerania.
The Twee Gebroeders, Terse, from Norway to Enkusten,
was lost near Ameland, on the I Sth instant.
The Margaretta Catherine, Duaurra' from Memel to Delfs-
haven, was lust on the 9th instant, near Aalborg.
FALMOUTH, JUNK 26.—Wind varlable.—Arrived the James
and Ann, FALL, from Cork; Pyramus, LEAN, from London;
Industrious, Parrznaew ; and Richard and William, Wim.rems,
from Bangor.
PLYMOUTH, JUNIL 27.—Arrived the Duke of Wellington, Ma-
rron!, from Sligo for London. Sailed the Joseph aJane,
Bunten; and Olive Braneh, DORWA ID, for Jersey.
Poe:suavest, June 118.—Wind South.—Sailed, the Lord St.
Helens, Pewees:rm. for Quebec; Isabella, Donato, for Mira-
michi ; and his Majesty's ship Renroxx, for the Mediterranean.
Deal, Jerre 28.—Wind E. by N.—Arrived and sailed again,
the Felicity, Meets, froth Hambargh for Bristol. Came down
from the River and sailed, the Ides, ALUMNI; for Quebec.
HARWICH, JUNE 28.—Sailed, the Lord Duncan packet for
Holland, and the Castlereagh packet for Cuxhaven, each with
a Mail.
Vessess sarong:. wiz's—The Canton, front Liverpool to Bos-
ton, on the 20th ultimo, in lat. 47.
.58. long. 53. George, from
Poole to Newfoundland, on the 91st, in lat. 48. 44. long. 32. A.
Trafalgar, from Liverpool to Quebec, on the 23d, in lat. 48. 56.
long. 27. 30. Louisa, from Havre to Labrador, on the 24th, in
lat. 48. 3. long. 23. 26. Isla, from Portvnouth to Quebec, on
the 26th, in lat. 49. 50. long. 22. 2. Mercury, from Bideford to
Prince Edward's Island, on the 26th, in lat. 49. 53. long. 21. 7.
and Jane, from Workington to British America, on the 4th inst.
in lat. 51. 26. long. 10. 211.
Cusleat-Hottsr, JUN g 28.—Ships Entered Inwards : Oporto
Packet, from Marseilles; Atlantic, from Ham burgh; Nonsuch,
from Stangate Creek; Ann, from Port-au-Prince. Entered
Outwards: Neleus, for Hamburgh ; Rockingham, for Bombay;
Linen Hall, for Dublin ; Eagle, for Genoa ; Ant, for Handiurgh;
Martin, for Elsinore; Telay, for Hamburgh ; Manley, for Cork ;
Sirene, for Calais. Cleared Outwards : Ann, for Dublin ; Unity,
for Ostend; Good Intent, for Kest; Betsy, for Cadiz; Venus,
for Gottenburgh ; Nearchus, for Jamaica; St. Patrick, for Bel-
fast ; Susan, for Quebec ; Archimedes, for Cadiz.
Amman—At Leith, the Blue-eyed Laic, from Gottenburgh ;
and Trafalgar, Janson, from Jamaica. At Dublin, Rebecca,
Scott, from London. At Gibraltar, Sandwich Packet, from
Falmouth; and Newburn, Cushing, from Philadelphia.

TO MS. JOHN SZKNITY, JUL LLOYD'S.

The reports which have been recently so current
respecting a change in Administration have now
taken the following shape :—Mr. CANNING, it is said,
goes to the Admiralty, where Mr. STURGES BOURNE
is to be the new Secretary. Lord MELVILLE re-
moves to the Home Department, and Lord Sin-
MOUTH to the Presidency of the Council. Lord HAR-
ROWBY, whose health is said to be exceedingly im-
paired, and who has long expressed a wish to retire
from office, is going to remain for some time on the
Continent. Mr. HusittssoN removes to the Board of
Controul, with a seat in the Cabinet; and Mr. Cacnuta
tales the Woods and Forests.

" Admiralty Office, June 28.
" Sta--Having laid before my Lords Commissioners of the
Admiralty your letter of yesterday's date, stating, that in con-
sequence of the long prevalence of North and North-Easterly
winds, numerous vessels from the Southward and AVestward
are prevented from getting into the Channel, and that it is feared
that many of them may be in want of provisions and water; I
ant commanded by their Lordships to acquaint you, for the in-
formation of the Committee for Managing the Affairs of Lloyd's,
that their Lordships have directed the Admirals commanding
at Plymouth and Cork to give orders to their cruisers for sup-
plying water and provisions to vessels under the circumstances
above mentioned.—l am, Sir, &e. (Signed) "J. Bassow."

BERLIN THEATRICALS.

EXTRACT FROM A PRIVATE LETTER, DATED 17TH
MAY, 1821.

" On Monday last (14th May), M. Seowitires new Opera was
performed. An uncommon degree of expectation haying been ex-
cited, by the length of time it had been in preparation, the Muse
was crowded to excess. This Opera (Olympla)hai been previously
performed at Paris, but has undergone a total change in the hands
of the Composer since his arrival in Berlin. The decorations,
dresses, &c. surpassed in splendour all that had been seen here to
this day; and it is said. that the expenses were more consider-
able than at any of the previous operatic performances. The
Composer was himself at the piano, and was, at the end of the
performance, called forward, when a wreath of laurel dropt
from one of the boxes, which be took up, and returned thanks
in German. The King and the whole Royal Family were pre-
sent. The Opera is full of fine things, but the music rather
noisy, so that, I believe, it cannot be performed without the as-
sistance of a very large band. The Ballets were uncommonly
splendid, and M. Seosivntes music to them is both appropriate
and original. Mad. MILDSII, our first singer, and bI. M. BADE&
and Weave sustained the principal parts with great ability,
while our Band supported them with equal skill and delicacy.
" The new Playhouse is to be opened on the 26th, and Iplti-
stain, one of GOITHIt'S best dramatic productions, and the
Fairy of Ike Rose.; a Ballet (the idea of which is said to have
been suggested by one of the first personages in Court), are se-
lected for the opening. A Prologue, by Gonna will:precede
them. The Theatre is similar to that of the Opera, but more
comfortable, and admirably calculated for the performance of
Comedy and Ballets, the machinery being one of the most com-
plete that can be found."

Yesterday the Marquis of LONDONDERRY had an
audience of his MAJESTY, at his Palace in Pall-mall.
The KING received visits yesterday from the Du-
chess of GLOUCESTER, and the Princesses AUGUSTA
and Soenta.
Wednesday the Duchess of GLOUCESTER and the
Princess AUGUSTA, dined with the Duke and Du-
chess of CLARENCE.
Yesterday the Princess AUGUSTA rode out in an
open carriage, accompanied by Mrs. EGERTON.
The Duke and Duchess of CLARENCE rode to Ken-
sington yesterday, on a visit to the Duchess of KENT.
The Corporation of the City of Dublin have voted
an unanimous Address to his Royal Highness the
Duke of YORK, expressing their warm and grateful
feelings for the part which his Royal Highness took
in the debate upon the Catholic Relief Bill, when
before the House of Lords, and requesting that he
would condescend to sit for his picture, to be placed in
the Mansion-house of the Chief Magistrate of the City.
Yesterday the remains of Mr. Fo RBES were removed
from his house in Fitzroy-square, for interment, with
great funeral pomp. The procession was preceded
by six men on horseback, the hearse with six horses,
Mr. FORBES'S carriage entirely muffled with black
cloth, aid the horses with velvet. Forty-three pri-
vate carriages followed. The body was conveyed to
St. James's Chapel, Hampstead-road, where it lay in
state this day, and to-morrow it will set out for the
family vault in Aberdeenshire.
Wednesday se'nnight, a hearse and six, followed
by two mourning coaches, and containing the remains
of the late Earl of STAIR, arrived at Dumfries, on its
way to the family vault, near Stranraer. It was near
the evening when the hears^rrived at Dumfries.
The pertons accompanying it halted a night in the
town, and the body lay in state in one of the rooms
of the King's Arms Inn.
THE KING'S SECOND LETTER.—Much speculation
has been afloat ever since the publication of this cu-
rious production, as to its real Author : on this sub-
ject, the Independent Observer, of the 24th of June,
says, " that the Author of this Second Letter from
the King is either a Member of the Cabinet, or one
of its numerous retainers, there can be little doubt."

Mrs. Conn, with her usual liberality, is said to have sent
bliss STI7HLX9 a Bank-note for £5O, accompanied with a mag-
nificent watch and costly appendages, as a remembrance, for
her Benefit.

The new portico of Drury-Lane Theatre is to be
illuminated by three gas lamps pendent from the
ceiling, with circular ornaments over them. The
lanterns are painted light green.

CmeNGEA—Nothing can be more proper than some
of the reported changes in the Ministry : Mr. Cro(a)ker
is to be sent into the Woods and Forests; and the Gen-
tleman who has so long had the Royal Timber under
his charge, is to be converted into a Cabinet 'Minister

WILL OP THE LATE EARL OF CARHAMPTON•
Probate of the Will of the late Right Hon. HEN Rif
LA WLESS, Earl of CARHAMPTON, was granted by the
Prerogative Court in Doctors' Commons on the 30th
ult. to Sir;THos. BROOK ES PECUELL, Bart. and NICHO•
LAS CALVERT, Esq. two of the Executors ; power
being reserved to the Countess Dowager, the relict,
the other Executor. His Lordship's plantation and
all other property in the Island of Jamaica which is
subject to the life interest of his brother and his wife,
he has devised after their death to his nephew, Cap-
tain MORI AR TY ; and in case of his death, to his niece,
the lion. ELIZA DAwsoN, her husband, and chil-
dren. All other property, both real and personal,
is left to the Countess, excepting only complimentary
bequests to the executors, and his Lordship's estates
at Paine's-hill, in the county of Surrey, and at Chel-
sea, in which she is to have but a life interest ; the
former being directed to be sold at her Ladyship's
decease, and 2-3ds of the produce given to his said
niece and her husband, with benefit of survivor-
ship, and, at the death of the survivor, to their
children ; the remaining third is left to Captain
MORIARTY, unless the Couiftess should otherwise
dispose of it, which she is enabled to do. The
reversionary interest of the estate at Chelsea is
given to the Hon. ELIZA DAWSON, her husband and
children, in manner aforesaid. The Will is dated on
the 25th of April, 1820. His Lordship's personal
property within the province of Canterbury is sworn
under £60,000.

,
Tuesday sennight, the Dumfries-shire Gentlemen Yeomanry, I The Lords' Committee of Council appo:ntc(i to
consider of his MAJEsTy'S Co:on:46oe, assernbied on
snmanded by Colonel Widuano, were thspeeted by the Most
Noble the Lord Lieutenant of the County. Wednesday at Whitehall. Earl 11A itßowliT sat as
The Dumfries Militia, which have been assembled for perina- .
I resident, and among, the other distinguished indivi-
Dent duty sinee Saturday, the 9th instant, were, on Tuesday last,
reviewed by lieutenant-General Drama, of Mount Auttatt. ; duals present nem.—
' Their Itcyal Iligh,t,sses the Dukes bf York, Clarence, and
Gloucester • the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Duke of Mon-
trose, the Marquis Camden, gad Dunoughmore, Lord George
Deresford, Lord C. Behtinck, Sir W. scott, Sir Henry Russell,
Sturges Bourne, Esq. See.
After deliberating or, various subjects which were
submitted to them, the Committee adjourned to
Monday next.
The preparations in the Abbey, under the direc-
tions of the Earl Marshal, are proceeding with the
greatest rapidity ; and the official details, under the
inspection of Sir GEoRGE NAYI.ER and Mr. WOOD,
are equally in an advanced state.
In order to prevent any interruption to the work-
mea in the Abbey, the Earl Marshal has resolved to
exclude all strangers until the arrangements shall be
complete; every possible facility will then be afforded
to gratify the Public.
The entire band of Gentlemen Pensioners are to
attend the Coronation of his MAJESTY.
Summonses have been issued for the Knights Com-
manders of the Bath, whose appearance will greatly
add to the splendour of the solemnity, their tinder-
dress being similar to that of the Knights Grand
Crosses. We have great pleasure in announcing this
circumstance, as, by the noble achievements of these
individuals,.in the late war, they have fully entitled
themselves to this proud distinction.
STEWART MARJORIBANKS, Esq. one of the Barons
in Parliament for Hythe, and WILLIAM Dams, Esq.
are elected Barons from that Port, to support the
Royal Canopy at the ensuing Coronation.
The Coronation of his MAJESTY will be celebrated
at Bristol by a Grand Ball at the Mansion House, a
General Illumination and other festivities. Similar
preparations are making in all the adjoining towns.
At a Meeting held at Leeds cn Monday week, is
was resolved that the Corporation should dine toge-
ther on the day of his MAJESTY'S Coronation; and
that all the Clergy of the Parish, the Officers of the
15th Hussars, of the Recruiting Staff, of the Yeo-
manry, and of the Volunteers, should be invited.

THE CORONATION.