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plicable to this country as to fr land. The Noble
Lord had alluded to 501. a-piece being raid to taco
Clergymen for doing early service. He must be awa,e
that by law no Clergyman could be compelled to rrad
the service more than twice a day. In the paridier
where the Churches were tow smal forth p p w
customary for the parishioners to meet and a 1)w an
additional stipend h r early service at six o'clock in the
morning, so that st portion of the inhabitants might
hear it before the other. This was the case in the
Parish of St. James, in this metropolis. Now did the
Noble Baton think that 501. was too much for such an
addition of duty ? With respect to the charge for
sacramental elements, the Noble Ltd would recollect
that all the wine not used in the Sacrament was to be
distributed by the Mi.oster among the sick and needy.
Larger orders were toerefore issued for wine than the
consomptiomitibteOtermquited. that ,he test might'
ire apphed SO chi itaute of the paw. As to the two
old women paid for atteeding, it was evident that
they were poid as servants of the church, to open
the pews, light theca:4les, and do every duty requir-
ed. The :alai-Tea to desks and organists had tent al-
ways been objected ti. He found in the returns on the
table that salaries of that kind had been voted at meet-
ings attended by Catholics as well as Protestants. In
a parish in Dublin, an increase of 104 a year had beta
voted in 1820 to the salary of the Organist for teach-
ing the Parish children, and the motion had been made
by a Roman Catholic: Catholics, in fact, were in the
habit of attending meztings, and although they had no
right to vote, yet their opinion was consulted. In
some cases ditty had even voted the money themselves;
but this, he admitted, was against the law. As an in-
stance of the sprit r f good•tellowship which prevailed
bttween the Cathoics and the Protestants, a staples
baying remained in the hands of the Churchwardens of
a Parish in Dublin, the money had been voted to the
Catholic Priest towards rebuilding or finishing a
Catholic chapel.
• Viscount CLIFDEN coazended that though the Act
gave the Catholics a right of appeal, it provided no se-
spedy for their grievances. When their, Churches had
been given by Henry VIII. and Qum Elizabeth to the
Protestant Hierarchy, they were in fall repairs. The
Protestants had suffered them to fall into decay, and it
wee very hard that the expense of rebuilding them
'should be thrown upon the Catholics.
After a few words from the Earl of LlmitaiCi, Lord •
Luso, and Lord CARiItaRT,
LoiLI•STRANGFORD said, that being in Dublii
ahom Easter in 1825, he had seen, at early service, in
the palish of Si. Thomas, nut less than 490 communi.
cams. At neon be had seen 800 mote. What became
thee of the assertion that it was neces are to pay two
old women to form a conEoegation ?
Lord iiING said, that the number of comitsistieltlde
Laatir could not be. taken as a fair stsuimate et those
diellfixttenide at, Abet periods ,ot the. year. .
Petition was then laid ors the tsble...-Adjourtied.

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The• Duke of RICHMOND, in presenting varionsPesit lone from
the Landholders of the County of Su•ara against any alteration its
the Ctirn Laws, observed it was the opinion of the Petitioners, that
nothing but a prohibition could enable them to live.
• The Earl ot LIMERICK presented a Petition from the
Catholics of Bhlntouth, its Devon, praying the House to relieve
them from the civil disabilities under which they were now placed.
Lord *LEY N HA M presented a Petition from a Parish In Kent,
against any alteration in the Corn Laws.
Petitionswere presented against the Roman C.atboiles, by the
Bishop of Exerast, from several places in Ikvon, and by Lord,
FEIIIRSHAIS. from the City of York.
Lord HOLLAND, in presenting a Petition from the Roman
Catholics of Ross Carberry, begged that he might not be ander.,
stood to agree in the sentiments expressed by the Petitioners. He
merely wished to see the Crowu in possession of its prerogatives,
' and the people of what he considered to be their rights and privi.
leges.—The Noble Lord also presented a Petition from certain
persons of Bristol, complaining of the injuries arising from Steam
Navigation.
Petitions were presented by the Earl of Suairrainuav, from.
Bristol; and by Lord Korean, from a Pariah in Wales, and from
Sudbury, against further concessions to the Catholics.
Lord KING presented Petitions from Oldham, a Pariah In
Lanarkshire, and from Ashton•under-Lyne, praying for an altera-
tion of the Corti Laws. • •

The Nesi.e Loan&lmo presented ,Petitions from the Roman Ca-,
tholics of Waterford, praying for Binancipatioo ; and front the
Operative Sawyers of York, Oldham, and Ashron.ender-Lyle,
against the use of Machinery.-
The Marquis of Assocztar, the Bishop of Lotman and the Bari
of Power, presented Petitions from Caernarvon, the Clergy of Leo:
don, and from Shrewsbury, against further concessions to the
Roman Catholics.

The Alarqols of SALISBURY presented Petitions from etweial
Parishes in the County of Hertford. against the Catholic Claims,
and against an alteration in the Corn Laws.— Laid on the table.
The Earl of HA REOW BY presented. a Petition front Leith, is
1-fairour of an alteration in the Corn Laws.—Laid on the table.

MOUSE OP COMMONS:
[This being the day fired by Mr Y. Beeman, for bringing fee.
ward his motion relative to the Carbolic Claims. the Gallery was
opeeed.soess after twelve o'clock, and in a very new minutes every
seat was occupied. The doors opening to the Gallery having been
closed at a proper time, and no more admitted than could calve.
niently sad room, much of that confusion was priveeted which fro•
trendy occurs when an important debate is expected.] , #
Several Members appeared attbe table, and took the usual ceder:
Among others, we observed Mr. COLL, of NOIIILIk, Sir Jl. SOilibbe
TILLS, and Lord &awake Firsouuta. '
Mr. COKE presented a Petition, signed by the Archdeacons et
Norwich and Sudbury, and 900 of the Clergy 'of the dlonnent
Norwich, in favour of the Roman Catholics.
Mr. WODEHOUSE strongly supported the Petition—Ordered
to be /mated.
Petitions were presented from the Archdeacon and Clergy d
Exeter, the parish of Allhallows, St. &ephen'i, and eight other
places in Devonshire, against any further concessions io the Roma.
Catholics.—Laid on the table.
A Petition was also presented idlest their Claims by Mr.
SYNGE, from Sligo.
Mr. V ISEY FITZGERALD said, a Petition had been agreed
to by the county he had the honour to represent in favour of CS.
tholic coacessions, but by some fatality it bad not reached him. It
bore the signatures of almost all the respectable Protestant', Noble-
men, and Gentry of the county.
Lord CHARLES MANNERS presented a Peiition from the
Dean and Chapter of My, against further concessioas.
Mr. ASFIG UST presented a similar Petition from the Deleted
Chapter of Oxford.
Similar Petitions were presented by Sir B. Kturetenetx, froen
the County of Kent, and front the Clergy of Rochester; by Mr.
LtrrLeeoe, from a Pat ish is Staffordshire, the only one from the
County.
Petitions were presented by Sir H. l'a mow. in favour of the
Catholic claims from Athboy, in the county of 'Meath, Kinecla,
in the county of Tyrone ; by Mr. H. Huresuisoe, from a parish in
Cork; Captain Huectursos, from Tqqterarl ; by Mr. Hisapaas,
from Rdiaboy, in the King's County.
Mr. MAX WELL presented seCcral Petitions from Cavan and
various other places.
Mr. H. GRATTAN requested the Petitions should be read, for
on examining twenty Petitions presented by the Hon. Member, be
found some to which no signatures were affixed—(Cbeers). There
was soother called the undersigned petitioners," and it was a re.
markabk fact that there was but one name, and that was 0 Fars.
ham," Governor—( Loud cheers). It was a delusion practised on
the young Members of Parliament, to tell them Out' the Prates.
tint sense, talent, and wealth of Ireland, were hostile to Catholic
concession.

The SPEAKER asked whether there were no signatures at-
tached to the parchment, or whether there were no signatures
at all?

Mr. GRATTAN answered that there were signatures on
small pieces of paper.—(Great cheering from the Ministerial
benches.)
Mr. TIERNEY wished to know if these sheets were se .t round
to various pans of t►e county without a head ?
Mr. MAXWELL said, copies of the parochial Petitions were
sent round, so that every une who dgned had an opportunity of
knowing their contents.
Ma. MOORS presented a Petition from the Protestants of Dub.
lin against tise Catholic claims._ _ _

Similar Petitions were presented by Sir John Bridges front the
parish of Dedham, in the county of Eases ; ba., F. Wilson,
from the city of York, from Tadcaster, from , 4n.1 from
Wetherby, ha the county of York ; by Sir John Astley,from West-
minster; by Mr. J. Henke., front the inhabitants ut the Isle of
Portland; by Lord Ottbaot,wv, from tke Piotestant Olt gy, Gen.
try, and Freeholders of the King's County in Ireland; by Mr.
11. Smith, front the Corporation of the Borough of Colchester, and
a parish in the couitty of Surrey; by Mr. Hart Davis, from
several parishes in the city of Bristol; by Lord Edward Sosner.et,
from the Inhabitants of Clifton, and another place in the county of
Gloucester; by Mr. Willoughby, front Newark.upoO.Treut; by
Mr. Curteis, from some parish in, the county of Susses ; by Mr.
Edward Stewart, front l'rutestants of the county of Tyrone, in
Ireland; by Lord Stopford, from the Protestants, Magistrates,
and other Inhabitants of the county of Wrzfood, in Ireland; sed
by Mr. Wells (as we understood), Irons the Town Council of Maid-
Slone. in Kent. 'lids last Honourable Menthes. made a tpsecb,' ut
the confwion, cntighti.g, and other not es in the House, made it

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