Star.
London, England, 1829-05-22 00:00:00

Hew was that propositicomot ? They were asked spf,.
then in passing a measure of such important;
.toald consent to descend from the" high statins-4
which legislators ought to stand, and to direct an AQ
against a single individual? He (Mr. Rice) would ag
the Houteovas this Act. or was it not, ditected agnisQ
Mr. O'Connell? T. Ohm-It wit a relief; to him it
was penal. He called` uliein khans to vireove as re,
striction, and for .that purpose would move, as as
anseodment to the ortginit mutton. for Nate to lain,
in a Bill for auseudiug the Roman Catholic ltelia
Bill as far as it related to oaths to"be taken by to.
man Catholic Members of Parliament.

Cord MORPETI3, although he role for little owe
than formally to second the motion of his Ron. Fijesd,
could not. refrain from saying a Few words. the mkt
paiticularly became on Monday night, *belt theyo,tur
discussing a mere point of law, and in a mere judicial
capacity, he found it was impossible for him to vote for
the admission of Mr. O'Connell; acrd never had he toter
'tn a decision which was.more hostile to his feelings.,.,.
At present, however. dry' were called upan to /mumw
a more Jr. libelist'''. character. It was asset ted on all bides,
that no personal feeling diet ated the ezclosion of th.
-Hon. Member for Clare. They had now in oppette,
nity of proving ,that assertion; for if there was no per.
sonal motive there was certainly no general asistieictor
the Legislature bad de!ermined, and had already
missed, Roman Catholics to sit in Padiameoh
O'Connell, he thought, bad earned his seat well, and
he hoped he might long adorn it. But it was as an liish
Catholic he (Lord Morpeth) wished to see him within
Vie walls of that House.

General GASCOYNE said that when he entered the
House he had not the smallest idea of supporting dm
Hon. Member's amendment; but, however he Might .
differ (rota the Hon. Member with regard so theme*
of the amendment, they would come to the same 50,.,
elusion ialroting that the Bill ought to be amended...
It appeased to him that many bad effects bad meet
from-the-indiscreet and unguarded manner in whieb ale
Bell had been paned. Opposed as he was to that Bill,
he did out carry his opposition to a private individus..
He had contended, as long as be could, .against the entire
principle of the measure, but, now that the battle was '
ova; tt we, far from kis wish to deprive theHon.blember
for Cl re of the benefit resulting from it. He thought
the Hon. Member had been badly treated, and he knew
not whether he was himself aware of it; but in passing
this measure his fights and interests had been compro.
mused between the party on the sight and the party on
the kit. Some bad said it was through inadeemesey
he was excluded, but 'sn far from that, the subject had
been frequently alluded to during the discussion. Had '
not &Whit Lord cow., down and made the Honourable
Member for. Clare himself a party to that compromise!
But, his were not the only rights , which were compro-
mised. There had been others far more extensive, sad
in contradiction to a principle which bed been always
professed but seldom acted upon, the rights of from three•
to four hundred thousand freeholder% had been forced'
from them. They might send the Hon. Member back to
Clare, but Whete were his constituents ? He (General G.),
supported the amendment because he thought there
never was so 'inject an attempt made in that Home as.
to deprive the Hon: Member for Clare (Ibis seat. When
the Catholic Relief Bill was in progress through that
House, he (General GascOyne) had put the quesiios,
whether that Bill tepealed any and shit Acts of Pars.
Cement? for the• Bill was so loosely drawn up that tt ex
di cult to say whether it repealed any Acts or not. To
his queiiion it was replied that when the Bill went into a
Committee an opportunity would arise for considering
what .Acks.it repealed. He Was therefore in ignorance
what Acts were repealed by it when it was fit 4 intros.
dined. It would be remembered that he was no partyte
she Bill. and that in fact he gave it every opposition la
his-patient. Itiitea:po wonder, therefore, that after the
Bill wets imgAMpOttee he, and others who acted no
him7ificfnotAloseamd.toits minute details, and invite
what particular Ails of Parliameorwermiepealed by
if:- :Heated- thole with whont'lle actedeppoied the Bill
oo its, general ' p_tincipie.' The Honourable-Wok/
for Weeniouth ":lJugdeti)-stated. in the court* of Ate •
:debits that she Roman Catholic Relief Billiepealed Ito
Act of Parliament, but that it aubttituted one oaktie
another ;. and it Was no winder that Tie (General tisi-
coyne) should be satisfied that such was the fact,
asmoning that if the Bill repealed- any 'Act oftmlies
moult could not escape any one so learned as the fib.
floured. 'Member. In' ut, he (General Gascoyae)
was not aware tbat the .Boman Catholic *Relief Hid
repealed any Actof Parliament until it escaped from `tie
Right Now Gent. in the•course of the debate. know
appeared in fact that:this Catholic Relief Bill, as it ias
callid, was another. Act of pains and penalties. It was*.
Act which punished, by a forfeiture of goods and chat.
teda ote the first offence, and was therefore highly penal.
No strolger mitherity was .required to show the ions.
vinience and inadequacy of the measure and the degra.
dnie which it had entailed on the Legislature than she
manner in which the oath was tendered and refused It
the 'table by the Hoo. Member for Clare. These was eis
poselbility of obliging Mr.CrCoatnell to take theica#l•
it that . a:tithe. They might rime that Mr. O'Coosell au
subjfict to take the oaths, but they were yet to few
whethei any penalties or punishment would folk,
froeklia refuse!. —Expedietty was the motive it an
rtatirdinfbiinging forward the Bill. and the elope of
ili• se Who liad previously opposed similar memos -
seknifoended on expediency. Now, he would Mikes
Gagmen who voted for the Roman Cathodic !Wit
Bill-Oar the ground of-expediency, whether expel:lMO ' '
weskOw to be left entirely out of consideration? At
exPetlleocy induced those Gentlemen to vote for the se •
Midi.* of Roman Catholics into the Legislatures/AZ
d*
-ner Induce them to keep the peace of Ireland,
thtry.'wets now informed upon creditable WWI!
stop 4 in . a most precarious mate, if tisk. Main 01
the; flonourable Member for Limerick (Mr. &MO
sboVld be rejected. He thanked the Hon. Menibtrlar
Limerick for thecandour with which he bad stated hi
views-on this subject, for it bad relieved him (Geawal
Gascoyne) from a charge against which he should other-
wise have thought it incumbent on him to defend him-
self. There was evidently' a doubt as to the coosket•
lion of the law as it applied to Mr. O'Connell's caw; •
and such being the case, why should hisllajesty's Meer
tens take advantage of that doubt, unless they alma?
perceived that by the Act of the present Seeks they 110,
gone farther than they wished ? If some ferlial !ir
that kind did not exist, why* did his 'Majesty's MIN'
lets beiirate, 'and oppose 'the admission
,of a privei
iollividual, which admission could never be formed ifs°
A, otecedent,..eis it was absolutely' impossible that 111,
ledividual could ever be placed in the same situatiwillt
• which Mr: O'Connell' now staid. When his.blajerlf4
Mitifsferl hesitated to admit Mr. O'Coinell they ablld*
c 9notres.fiAblejlith justice to the imputation of thass
Wades In the old proverb, which spokeof those ate
i allowed-a caufetand choked at 1 gnat -Ile believok
t (Beni of iliecoiscessi6<osudis to the Roma CP
44115k4W41:149r!t_ Acill:rian real; but now that di
c cession was omit le could net see the objett
csclbding Mr. O'Connell. Fat heel own part he Wadi