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'pedient to apply the bankrupt lows, es they now existed
in this country, to Ireland. As to the Bill for regulating
juries in this country, which had been introduced in the
last Session, and the introduction of which had done so
much credit to his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Secretary
Peel), he though it would not be expedient to make it
applicable to Ireland. It would be sufficient to say, that
the hasis of that bill consisted of returns of jurors made
by Orers-ers of the poor and Churchwardens; Now,
in Ireland they had no Overseers of the poor, and he
hoped they would long continue without them (hear,
hear); and as to the returns made by Churchwardens,
he thought that the Honourable Baronet himself would
nit 1 Ice to see returns of jurors made by men holding
an office from which Roman Catholics were ezcludid.
On the subject of the reforms made in the M rgistracy,
the Honourable Baronet. had not suggested anything,
nor was lie (Nlr. Plunkett) prepared to say that any
new measure was in the contemplation of the Irish
Government. Since'that reformation had been made
he had not heard any complaints on the subject, which
on inquiry proved to be well-founded. There was one
co nplaint made of the conduct of a Learned Lord in
whose department the appointment of Iklagi,traies
tested, but the facts of the case we:e, that an Inquiry
had been instituted into the conduct of the MAgisti a•e,
and that the whole charge from beginning to end was
altogether without foundation. He also would take this
opportunity of informing the Honourable Baronet, ilia.
be had at present under his consider won a Bill for ex- I
tending to Ireland some of the most materiel provisiJns
contained in the very valuable Act for amending the
Bankrupt Laws of England, which was passed last
Session. It would, of course, require some considerable
alterations to render it applicable to I: e.and ; but after
it had been modified, he had no doubt but that it would
be found very serviceable for that country. He was
also preparing a Bill relating to the law of landlord and
tenant in Ireland, which would, he conceived, remedy
several abuses, and especially the one of double distress.
In his opinion the returns which had been read by the
Hon. Member for Duodalk clearly proved, that there
was no want of liberality on the part of the Pro:estants
of Ireland towards the Catholics of that country ; he
conceived, therefore, that the only purpose which the
Hon. Baronet could answer by pressing his present re-
solu•ion would be, that of evincing anger for the past,
and not of effecting a remedy for the future. The Hon.
Baronet's complaint was not as to the amount of the
rate. which were levied, but as to the manner in which
they were levied; but it should be recollected, that if
any rates were illegally-levied, there was a proper tri-
bunal in that country to which an appeal might be addressed for a
remedy, if the application were nude in due time.

Mr. ABERCROM BY wished to make a few obser-
vations on that part of—the Right Hon. and Learned
Gentleman's speech, wherein he informed the House
that he purposed conferring a great boon on Leland by
extending the statute recently rased for amending the.
bankrupt laws here to that country. He (Mr. A.) did
not mean to say that chit statute might not contain
some useful provisions, but he believed those who
praised it most were the members of the profession to
$A hich he had the honour to belong, and who had pro-
fited by it. It had also been muclr lauded, and for a
similar reason, by the Commissioners of Bankrupts;
but he felt' it his dirty to say, that he considered this
enactment much more calculated to cause us:less
expense than to promote the inteirsts of those who might
have the misfortune to come under its operaiiiin ; indeed,
he was somewhat surprised that no notice had as yet
4seen given of bringing in a Bill 1.1 remedy the defects
which had been fcsiand to exist in that statute.. He did
not consider the objection which had been raised by the
Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman to intro :lacing the
Jury Bill into Ireland—vis. that there were no ov-crseent of the
poor in that country—at all tenable, for there was no necessity that
this measure shook be carried into effect in Ireland In precisely
the same way that it was carried into effect in England.

Mi. Secretary PEEL saw no objection to wending
the Jury Bill (which he had had the honour to bring
forward for this country) to Ireland. It was not neces-
sary that it should in every particular follow closely
and agree with the Bill for England. Indeed, he did
not mean to says that that bill was absolutely perfect,
for probably the working of the assizes would suggest
such alterations in that enactment as to cau e a con-i-
-del able improvement in it. In his opinion it would be
extremely benefi ial for I•eland, if some officers were
apppointed there to correspond with our Lord Lieute-
nants. The Irish had at present an idea that the Go-
vet nment there was some mysterious thing quite beyond
their comprehension ; where is were there some subor-
dinate anthotizies there, the people would become
more familiarised with the Government, which
would have a very beneficial effect. It might nor,
indeed, be quite so easy to meet with these officers
in Ireland as in England oa account of the latter
being the seat -of the Legislature, and the come.'
quent absence from Ireland of tsose who were best
hued for such sittritions ; but still be trusted that by degrees this
object might be effected. lie purposed proposing that the bill for
the consolidation of the laws relating to theft should alto be extended
to Jieland. The Right Hon. Gentteman concluded by observing,
that the lion. Ilaronet might by insisting on putting his resolution
to the vote, record his own individual sentiments on this subject, I
;Jut in other reap ects he thought it would be a much more advisable
proce.•ding to to:low the course recommended by the amendment.
Mr. GRATTAN advised the Hon. Birenet to with-
draw his resolution, although he admitted that there
had been some levies of a most extraordinary nature.
In his opinion, what would be most advantageous
for Ireland would be to devise some plan for the edu-
cation of the peasantry of that country. He thought that
Gentlemen here ought to be friendly to any plan which would
render the lower classes of Ireland more intelligent, and thereby
prevent their emigrating in such numbers to this country as to
create a serious addition to the poor-rates.
Mr. PLUNKETT explained. He thought parts of the Jury
Bill, if successful here, might be extended to Inland.

Mr. C. HUTCHINSON was glad that the Hon.
Member for the county of Wicklow had directed the
attention of the House to the devi,ing of some plan for
educating the poorer classes of Ireland.; for it was truly
deplorable to behold the wretched condition of the peasantry in
the south and western parts of that country. He did not indeed,
wish the poor laws of England to be extended to Ireland.
Mr. MONCK wa► of opinion. that this subject de-
served the serious consideration of Parliament, and that a coin-
mittew ought to be appointed to examine into the details of ft.
Mr. H. MAR I'IN thought that the Hon. Baronet's
re.olutioti would serve well for the preamble of the Bill
hid) the Right Hon. Gentleman bad proposed to in-
trosluce. He conceived that it would be impossible to
introduce into Ireland a system of poor laws similar to
that 'now existing in 'England. Something however
must be done for the poor of Ireland; and the task of providing
some legislative measure for their relief could be undertaken by
nobody better than the son of the late Henry Grattan.
After a few observations from Mr. SIMMS thee,

Sir JOHN NEWPORT made a very brief reply. He
would not withdraw his Resolutions. He had frequently
found that Resolutions that were proposed by him and
negatived by the House, had, after a considerable inter-