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Mr. Su Aw Leveret obtained leave fora fortnight's abfenes, of the whole Houk-- ..
on arcount of ill health.
MR. WALLACE IN THZ CHAIR.
Mr. WILLIAM DUNDAS celled the attentirn oft e HO fe to
a Petition from cera;n Weavers in Scotland, prey ng ii i: the The CHANCELLWR of the Exc Hi melt laid, he
AR for rzgulating difputes betwixt Matters and Servant, lhoold role in fuhmit tO the 'cordideration of the Commit-
be extended to Scotland.—Referred to a Committee. tee a peepolition which he flattered himfelf would
The CnAreceit.ose of the Excavate ea laid, that it was ma.
, meet with their concurrent approbation. Certain
terial for the House to determine refpating the Rate of the Pe. ,
talons
would tre that It wouldbr irkfume to Ile under the continual mittee was as desirous as himfelf to fupport the
operation of the Order, which had leen enforced in eortfequence fplendour and dignity of the Prince of Wales ; and
of what had taken date rtlative to Petitions on Friday and SAT I
equally certain was. he, that every Member when
turday lag. His intention was, that that order Zooid only be r
enforced once a week. He therefore moved, that the order , •
beael him felt a ecinftitutional right and a coniti-
which Rands for taking into contideratton the Pe•ition againit tutional -inclination in fo doing. For his own part,
the Eli-dion fur the County of Hereford on Tudday next, be ' he was Oast of thole who concurred entirely in the
difcharged, and that the lame be taken into confederation to- ,
( arrangements and fettlentent which heti taken
morrow fennight.—Ordered.
place in I 795. And though thole who thenbronght
It: then Paid there would be three Committees fur that day,
and three for Friday. • forward that fettlement, as well as thole who gave
The Report of the Mutiny Bill was brought up, and order- it their moll cordial fupport, did it with reluaance,
ed to be taken into oonideration on Monday next. I lure hewas, thatevery Memberof that Houle would
The Houk refolved Melt into a Committee on the Expiring .
mely glad to fee tilde measures carried
Laws Bill. The feveral Refolutions were read and agreed to..' b. e extremely
The Houfe reamed, and the Report was ordered to be reedy. I into full and complete effea. He founclis wps
ed tn-morrow. i abfolutely neeetfary to refer to the proccedingsof
Mr. WALLAet brought up the Report of the Committee sp. , 4 7,5- - ,It emu bo eemseaesis that in this oar
pointed to prepare the Addrefs to ha fAidefty to congratulate in nisffa" had ham
received from his hiajiralr,
sc..
him on his providential cfcape from the confpirsey which Lad
lately been deteded againithis w ,ren and government. The ferri_.n_ ha
g to the incumbrand o ides of
eensoifdete Prince
pri ips
of Wales
Addrefs was read and agreed to, and ordered to be prefateld • and Ratios, that he a
by the whole Woofs.
~ ' rarer. from Parliament, bat by.an applicatiotkOf
The Cray ceetaa at die Esc:newels laws& *IS lush int* of his revenue tovrards the liquidation aild
Member. as were of his Mildly's Privy Couaal &add wait
on his Malin), to know when he would be plated to be waited payment of his debts. His Right HOLlrriend,
on with the laid Addrds—Ordered. 1 the then Chancellor of the Exchequer, bad...when
The SreAtea gave notke, that he &wild tiosorrow take he brought forward the nteafure, bated. that a
the Chair pedifely at two o'clock. i provilion of 60,000 L a year had already been made,
HIS MAJESTY'S MISSAGZ•
, 4 and all he anted of the Committee was, that in
• The CH atm s LLOIL of the Exc MEWS& moved the' conlideratioo of the price of provifione and other
Order of the Day, for the Houle to refolve itfell. articles, he propofed only an addition of 65,c001.
into a Committee of the whole Houk, to take into
's Me
confideration his M ffag e.
do leave the 1 a year. At that time it was the opinion of many
On the queflion thata theett Sesala ' Members of the Houfe, that a finaller fun would
t .
be futhcient,and that it might not to be greaterthan
Colonel SraNtsv role, and laid, that before he
Chair, i that given to his Royal Highnefs's grandfather,
; and therefore they
objeaed to adding 65400.1.. a
contented to the Speaker's leaving the Chair, be ; year to 60,0001. already fettled. Some were of
begged leave to a& a few quellions :—Whether it .
opinion that no provifion thould be made I others
was that the Prince was to be relieved from the again thought, that, at Ica, if provifioo was
difficulties he laboured under, in confequence of
made, the means thould be derived from other
his debts, by a free gift from the Houfe ? or whe. fources. At that period no dittina propofition had
titer this was to be confidered as a compromile of
been made by his Kight How Friend ;but it kem-
certain claims which bad heretofore been advanced ;
ed to be the decided opinion of a great majority
on the part of his Royal Highnefs, relative to ca. I of tile Hoofer
tnat his Royal Highnefs's debts
Lain revenues to which he thought himfelf entitled? . 'hood be paid in as (bon a time
as postale._
If it was meant as a coMpromile, he believed that Whilll the Houk was thus divided in opinion, they
the great law authorities of the country held a very i were relieved from the irkfomenefs of their fitua-
conliderable difference of opinion on the fubjeft. I a moll gracious cc mmunication from the
flit was intended as a free gift, he thought that the lion by
Prince, through the medium of Mr. At ,other,
late Ads of Parliament retpeaing the Prince's re. then Solicitor General to his Royal Highnefa as
venue difabled him from ufing it as fuch. He, I Duke of Cornwall.—(Here the Chancellor of the
therefore, begged, that the two Metrages of his I Exchequer read the communication]—by which
Majelly of the sill of May, 1786, and the aath of 1 his Royal Highnefs slimed the Houfe, that he was
May, 1795, be read, which was accordingly done. &firms to fubinit himtelfaatirely to the judgment,
He faid, that notwithllanding his high refpea for i simnel. and direaion of Parliament, in whatever
the Prince, he was induced to requeft that this , related to the incumbrances which were under their
might be afcertained, becaufe he had alfo a high conlideration, in cunfequence of his Majefly's miff-
reipea and duty to pay the inhabitants of a large fage. That communication was received by the
county, who had delegatethim as their Reprefen- Houle as it deferved, and ought to be. with the
dative, and entralled him with the alifpolal of their
highest retina and gratitude. and immediately al-
rights and properties; and, till he knew the grounds terwards the Houfe proceeded to appoint a Com-
on which the matter was to b: taken up, he mull mitte to take the affairs of his Royal Highnefs into
opprife the prefent motion. their ca-e and management, and to liquidate his
Fhe CHANCILLOR of the Excetostsa raid, the debts. By the Bill then brought in, and afterwards
Hon. Member has allied a queftions—Whether palled into a law, Commitfioners were appointed
this bufinela is the refalt of a compromife, in con- to invefligate the debts of the Prince of Wales...-
Sequence of whit palled left Setilon, or whether it That oft a full infpeaion into the fame, thole debts
was intended to be a free gift to his Royal High. were found to amount to the fun of 650,0001. and
Refs ? He had no temple, he Paid, in declaring to the Commiffioners were thereby authorifed to rt-
him, and to the Houle, that a compromile makes ceive annually from the Officers of the Duchy of
no part of the propofition it was his intention to Cornwall the font of 13,0001. and from his Majef.
lubmit to their confideration. No free gift was ty's Exchequer the font of 60,0001. which hints
either in confideration ; but it was his with to pro" were to be applied towards the difcharge of his
pate to the Houle, to grant loch a ruin as to en..
Royal Highnefs's debts, fo that the fame might
able the Prince to eilablith himfelf in that fplen, be billy paid off in the courts of twelve years. It
dour and dignity, which he was certain every in. was the general with of the Houfe, that they might
dividual Member of that Houle mull with to Ice be liquidated in kthorter (pace of time, and clear
attached to his rank and fituation. He was tome- he was in his own mind, that not one individual
what furprifed at the manner in which the Hon. Member, at the time he voted for that regulation,
Member had taken up the bufincfs. There was conceive,' himfelf firiftly bound to confine the
tiro intention whatever of interfering with the plan
already prefcribed by Parliansent. and, in conk. ' Prince .to the whole of that time, but that every
one clearly conceived the bufinels was open to the
quince, acted upon, relative to the pityment of the future confideratioa and interference of Portia-
debts of his Royal Hjelnars* Wilts was the la' ment, to relieve the Prince from the preffure which
sir"( his MaisaT's rdsiage ? His maicar had the imperious cireuvaltances of the times then
motoin that, 'given the fistalell hint or intimation obliged the Parliament to. render him liable to,
refpedtiag the debts of the Prince.—The Woods of wit r their-united . widows &sold conceive it
the Addrefs seal,'" That his hiajefty having taken icecestv, and convenient fete do. M. Addington
One coefektatios the period that hatitLaofed lime edit n fail, that fince the ;Loth of Oilelem...; 794,
the IlldartNlTl°63l64e arilabillilleiki‘, 346" Par, Ids aim when, by a retrairetftire sbut6aitraliebe4
. . 4(,e) :L ii,w is.,;, . :-., . 7.41 o: I. .- i .. i • ; . ' .

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the Aft took effeEt, the Commiffioners had re-'
ceived from both there funds thq fum of 59a,5001.
which would have been applied towards providing
for the comforts, and maintaining and fopporting
the fplendour and dignity of the Prince of Wales,
had it not been made by that Mt liable to the dd.
charge of his debts. Here the Right Hon. Gen-
tlemin read the account of the Commilfioners, in
which were enumerated the feveral fums paid by
the Conimiffioners ; from the whole of which it
appeared, that an the sth of April, 1303, the fum
of 13,0001. charged on the revenues of the Duchy 1
of Cornwall, would ceafe to be any longer pay-
able, and thofe revenues would be freed from that
charge, and that the funs of 805,7501. which con-
flituted the whole of his debts with intereß, expels-
ces, &c. will be paid on the sth January, 1806,
which will leave a balance in the hands of the
Commiffioners of nearly tool. He then laid, that
his Majetly having confidered the prefent fituation
of the Prince, and the train in which his revenues
had for eight years lag pail been placed fur the
liquidation of his debts, did not think it unfit
to call the fituation of his Royal Highnefs to the
attentive confideration of Parliament. The Right
Honourable Gentleman then begged the Houfe
to recollea, that for the left eight years, (a
fifth part of his life), the Prince had *finally been
living in a comparative Rate of obfcurity. Was
it poffible. he liked, that the Houfe of Commons
could have in their contemplation, that his Royal
Highnefs ftiould remain in that Rate four years
longer ? Though the time had, from imperious
•leircurattances, been originally fixed for 12 years,
lie would not fuppofe that every individual had
made up his mind to a& on this to the utmoß li-
mit, but that, on the contrary, al he had Rated
before, be was convinced a wait majority of that
Hoeft had conceived that the matter was Rill open
to the future confideration of Parliament, to
• great the Prince fuch relief as time and circum-
fiances might permit. Conceiving this to be the
real Rate of the cafe, the propofition he had now
-to fabinit to the confideration of the Houle was
this, That his Royal Highnefs from the Ift of
January, 1803, (hould be placed in the fame fltua-
lion and circurrsitances, as if the Aft of 1795 had
not been paffed, and it was his intention to move,
that a fum, not exceeding 60,0001. a year, be grant-
'od to his Royal Highnefs till the expiration of the
period fixed by that Aft for the payment of his
• debts." When he Rated, that ninety years ago
a Prince of Wales bad received from Parliament
a fettled revenue of too,oool. that the Prince's
royal grandfather had, fixty years ago, a fettled
income affigned him by Parliament of i ta,oool. a
year, he could hardly fuppofe that Houle would
be of opinion, that in the year 1795, an income of
125,0001. a year to the prefent Heir Apparent,
was more than equivalent to thole which had been
grimed to his predeceffors in times fo far diftant
&she had jug Rated. He afked the Houle, tithe-
day that which was looked upon to be moderate
in 1795 was not fo now? He did not mean to alk
say addition to the Cum, he did not mean that any
migration or interruption Ibould take place in the
'Ueda or manner of liquidating the Prince's debts;
; he was only defirous that his Royal Highnefs
fisanld be put in full poffeffion of what he would
have bad long ago, bad not the moil prefhing and
imperious eircuntftanees at that time required re-
. itriaions and regulations. He affured the Houfe,
be was far from under-rating the value and impor-
atace aeronomy, but there certainly were cafes,
in which rigid economy might dwindle into par-
famony ; and in the prefent cafe be had no doubt
Mgt the Houle, while they kept their eye Readily
fixed on economical principles, would never lole
fight of the Rill more important principles c f jut.
nee, and give to the fubjeft every liberal allow.
amts, which he was certain its magnitude and con•
lequence mutt be felt, by every one who heard
him, fo effentially to call for. Is the Rate of the
country, Paid he, at this moment, when we enjoy
a Rate of profound peace, fuch as to doubt its
power to do that, which was not deemed more
than fufficient in the courfe of a molt expentive
war? He begged the Houfe alto to recolle& the
confiderable change which, (ince that period, had
taken place in the value of money ; and though he
did not by any means intend to make ufe of that
argument for the ben..st of the Prince, it was fuch
as mutt naturally weigh with the Haute, and de-
{creed their moil attentive confideration. An
Hon. Member had silted, if this was meant as a
stomprotnite for claims I He could afore the
Route. with great truth. that no compromile had
ewer been in his contemplation ; and that ifhe had
ever heard of the petition of right, teeing fuch an
application fanaioned by his bla;efly, this was a
propofition which he would molt cordially and
aealoufly fupport, towards maintaining the digni-
ty and fplendonr of the Prince of Wales. When
he made life of the word dignity and fplendour. as
attached to the fituation of his. Royal Highnefs, he
did not intend to confine hintfelf to the means of
outward thew and magnificence ; he did not al-
lude to the number or grandeur of his carriages,
to the ellabliihment of-his houfehold. to his in-
stants. h.ries, and other outward appearances ;
he wi(hed to extend his powers of dillinguifhing his
high rank and Ration in the empire, by enabling
him to befriend diftreffed merit, to encourage and
reward dittingnifhed and eminent literary charac-
ters, and promote great undertakings; to make a
dißinguinsed difplay of the exercife of that liorpi.
Ctality for which the country was to juftly cele.
rated, and of every thing which could flied a
luare on the aaions, the mind. the manners, and
the habits of the Prince, who is the prefent heir,
and mar one day •be the future inheritor of the
greateft Clown in the univerfe. He then moved—
.. That hia Itleielty be enabled to grant, oat of tbe Confab
dated rand, a him or fame not csorcd rig &pool. a year. for
three years to be computed from sth Jar.. MI, for She pup.
pan of enabling Ms korai MOM, tbd Prince of Wales to
maintain the dignity of Ma MO runic"
Colonel S expreffed his defire to have the
amount of that pan of the debt ofhis Royal High-
nets, which had been difebarged, re-Rated by the
Right Hon. Gentleman. •
The CHANCELLOR of the Exceenr • a obferved,
that dmdwinkslif! the debt difeharged to the sth
of . 0 A.e. ... • • rated to no lets a fern
Fly th , , • : "1-""..4,. :. ere roxotiard m. be Inti 4
Ie s': ‘tit: • t.- • I,ocial. With refs& to
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the charge of the Commiflion for management, it
might not be improper once more to ftate that it
amounted to 6cool.

The SOLICITOR GIINZIAL addreffed the Chair-
man to the following effea :—" Sir, In offering
my fentiments to the Committee upon the propo-
!Won fubmitted to their confederation by my Right
Hon. Friend, I feel, in common with them, the
great importance of the fubjed, as well as the ,
dignity of the illuftrious perfonage to whom it
relates. But although I ceafe to have the honour
of being in the (crake of his Royal Highnefs the
Prince of Wales, yeti have the cordial fatisfadion
of retaining what to my mind is much more va-
luable, the confidence of his Royal Highnefs. In
Rating to the Houfe the fentiments of the Prince
of Wailes. I am &fired to exprefs, in the ftrongeft
terms, his fincere and unfeigned gratitude to his
Majefty, for the intereft be has been pleated
to take in what regards the dignity and comforts
of his Royal Hightiefs's lituation, evinced as
it has been in the gracious Meffage which has been
fent to this Houfe. lam alto &fired to Rate, in
terms no left Rrong. that his Royal Highnefs fub-
mits with the utmoß chearfulnefs to the wifdom
and juftice of the Houfe, which he is convinced
will direa their proceedings in whatever refolntion
they may adopt with refped to the prefent fubjed.
I am convinced, and I truß every Gentleman who
bean me will give me the fulleß credit for the
Ratement, that tt has ever been the &It objea of
the Prince to thew, in all inftances, and on all cm-
cafions, his fincere repel and duty for his country.
Of his ardent defire to preferve, without the pof-
fibility of diminution, the harmony which fhould
milt between him and his Royal Father, everyone
is deeply convinced ; and he would forego every
claim of right, rather than enter into a conteft,'
the event of which, however fuccefsful, mnft be
to his Royal Highnefs the fubjet of ferious regret.
The Houf: will, I am fare, readily admit, from
the Ratements which I have made, the propriety
of the Prince's fentiments, and they will be able to
appreciate how very jolt and dignified his ideas
are on the prefent occafion, fince no doubt can be
entertained of the legality of his right. For
notwithltanding what has been thrown out this
evening by an Honourable Gentleman on the
diverfity of legal opinions, I feel no heitation
in maintaining, that the claims of his Royal
Highnefs were too firmly eftablithed to be fhaken
by any opinion which might be brought for
to invalidate them. lam free to allure
the Committee, that I feared no refults from the
profecution of the right, but thofe which might un-
fortunately lead to a difference between hisMajefty
and his eldeß Son; and it was by that confident.
tion that his Royal Highnefs was folely influenced.
In adverting to the grounds for his Majefly's gra-
cious Meirage, I can difeover none but thofe pub-1
lie grounds which have been fo ably and impar-
tially Rated by my Right Hon. Friend. It mug
be obvious from their nature, and the candour
with which they have been brought forward, that
there are no other. There certainly has been no
compromife, nor has any circumftance occurred
which can warrant fuch a fuppofition. lam
confident, Sir, that my Ratement will be confirmed
by my Right Hon. Friend, when lat the
Committee, that the intimation of the prefent
meafure, hen communicated to his Royal High-
nefs, came altogether unexpeded : that no terms
were attempted to be impeded upon him, and that
he was left at full liberty, fhould he think proper,
to profecute the juftice of his claim. In mention.
ing the gratitude felt by the Prince of Wales, for
the intereft which his Majelly takes in whatever re-
lates to him, I put it to en Houfe, whether there be
any thing in allele feelings which does not tidied
the higheß honour on his Royal Highnefs ? I have
now, Sir, one word more to mention, unconneded
with, and unauthorifed by the Prince. When this
fabled was fubmitted lift Seflion to the confidera.
tion of the Route. I then Rated, that however
great the etpenees incurred by the Heir Apparent
had been, it was impoffible for any perfon to fay,
that they had fallen upon the public. Let me now
repeat that Ratement, and I do it with greater
confidence as it is founded in fad. Let thole who
are inclined to doubt it, confider the material diffe-
rence which exists between the prefent and former
times, between the lituation of his Royal Highnefs
and that of his illuftrious predeceffors ! Let them
compare the prefent with the paft ; let them form
a fair etiolate between the difference of expendi-
ture arifing from the great alteration in the value
of money and the price of provifions ! If the
Hon. Gentleman will take the trouble of entering
into a comparative review and calculation of dude
(objets, he will find a fatiafetory apology for the
debts contrail ed by the Prince of Wales. Having,
Sir, made there obfervations, and impreffed with a
lively fade of the fplendour which fhould charac.
terife the dignified lituation of the Heir Apparent,
I feel that they will juftify me in the Vote which
I have to give for the propofition fubmitted to the
Committee by my Right Hon. Friend."
Sir RALPH MIL/MI/11k confidered the fpeech of,
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and of the Learn-
ed Gentleman who fpnke tall, unanfwerable in
every point of view. He thought the dignity of,
the country was implicated in the queftion, which
ought to be carried in the affirmative. It was
known to all, that the Prince of Wales had lived
for feveral years in a Rate of obfcurity, and he'
mated the Houfe would, by their proceedings,
give to him that contlitutional dignity which
should be fupported. His Royal Highnefs bad
aded fairly and honourably in giving up part of
his income for the difcharge of his debts ; and he
hiould not, for his own part, fern* to fay, that
the film propofed by the Right Hon. Gentleman
to the Committee was too little. The motion had'
his hearty concurrence.
Mr. HA aft nom erpreffed his convidion, that die
great diminution which h id taken place, for eight
years, of the Prince's income, entitled him to the
, good-will of the Hoare although much of the
I debt incaried had been difcharged, tbeit'ftill re-
mained 235.c.001. to be paid off; and he could have
waked to have feen a detail of the manse, in
which the revenon of the Duchy of Corowattl had
been defpaed of during the minority of his Royal
Highnefs lit conldlow wised to haw had the
rums applied to his education's; well as *lre eng

ployed in the public fer Ace, clearly and diftinaly
alkertained. He thought that what had been given
to the Civil Lift fro* thefe revenues, fhould be
returned by the Civil Lift. It was out of his fin-
cere regard to his Royal Highnefs he would not
have it go forth to the public, that he had con-
trailed new debts, or that he had been pledged by
a former fettlement. In his mind, what had been
taken out of the ellate of a minor fhould be ac-
counted for to him ; and with refped to any dif-
ference or ill• will between the Prince and his Royal
Father, he felt no ferious apprehenlions on that
fubjeft. Amicable fuits were no uncommon ar•
rangements, and as the right was undoubted. he
WAS defirous of following up the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman's propofition by another, hating the exaft
diminution of the Prince's debts by the (urns'
applied from his income for that purpofe, as well
as by a refolution to put him in full poffeffion of
'his income. _

[A few words pafed have between the Csaii-
ceu.oa of the Excites:ins' and Mr. HARRISON.
with refped to the nature of the debentures held by
the creditors of the Prince of Wales.]
Lord CASTLIREAGH Paid, that after the very
fatisfailory fiatement which had been made by his
Right Hon. Friend, he fhould offer but a few
words to the Committee. He entertained no
doubt whatever of the propriety of the propofition ;
! but an opinion teemed to &ft, that the right of
his Royal Highnefs was fo indifputable, that the
' interference of Parliament became neceffary.—
When the fubjed came before Parliament laft Set-
' Pion, he did lament, that Parliament, fo far friim
polteffing the power of interfering, was, on the
contrary, linable to interpofe with effed, from the
legal nature of the quieftion. The Prince wifhed,
that whatever his embarraffments were, they
might be difcharged out of his imme.; and he
alfo hoped to be liberated from a claim, the pro-
,
fecution of which might lead to a difference with
his Royal Father. Rather than IA fuch an iffue,
he was ready to refign every thing. The Houfe
had, in fait, no choice but that of waving a deci-
lion on a claim which was acknowledged, on all
hands, to be one of a legal nature. -It was not
difficult to conceive the motives which had adu-
ated his Majefty to bring the gluelike% before Par-
liament. He could entertain no apprehenfioit With
retina to the petition of right; and, as the quef-
tion was always underfiood to be one which was
to be referred to this Houle, the prefect moment
appeared to his Majefty the bell for the expreffion
of his feelings, and the adJunment of the Prince's
eilabliffiment. Lord Caftlereagh went over five.
ral of the grounds taken by the Chancellor of the
Exchequer : and concluded with *Wein& that
as the fubjeft was reduced to the fttop4 confidera-
tion, whether the petition of right &Wild be pref.
ed upon the Prince, or he Mould be left to his
own fentiments, and the gratification of his own
feelings, the Committee could, with perfed feisty,
interfere, and vote for the motion of pus Right
Hon. Friend,

Mr. MARILISON explained.
1 Mr. SIMLIDAN (aid, he would have willed to
abftain from troubling the Houle. but that flume
points were abfolutely neceffary to be explained.—
: He was ready to admit the arguments employed
t in fupport of the propofition by the Right Hop.
. and Learned Gentleman oppofite to him; the pro-
; pofition itfelf was equally fatisfadory to thofe
t who wUhed to replace his Royal Highnefs in his
Conflitutional fplendour and to thole who watch.
. ed with a jealous eye the expenditure of the public
money. There was, however, one thing which
. did not appear to be admitted, and which he was
particularly defirops fhould be Rated ; it was not
admitted that the Prince of Wales, fo far from
burdening the Public, had on the contrary made
a confiderable facrifice to them ; this certainly was
the fax, and it fhould be known to the country.—
, He was himfelf a real friend to the comforts and
fplendour which his Royal Highnefs ought to en-
joy, but he was at the fame time a greater friend
to his honour and character. Tle Prince came
forward for the third time. Upon the fief appli.
cation, notwithllanding the arguments employed
by the learned and the unlearned, notwithfland-
ing the vail fund of legal and hiftorical erudition
which was difplayed, nothing was afcertained with
regard to the Petition of Right. Full, it was to
he prefented to the Lord Chancellor, then it was
difcovered that the Chancellor was not the proper
perfon, but that the Petition thould be given to Lord
Pelham. Afterwards it was to be laid before the
Chancellor, and then it came into this Houle.—
An affurance had been given. that there was no
compromife whatever, and that the Prince was at
liberty to profeeute his fuit : but,.for his own part,
he gave his fitppon to the propofitioa, becaufe the
Prince did not come forward as a claimant upon
the public, but alerting a jolt demand. As to
the idea of a compromife, there appeared in that
nothing of a difgraceful kind. An adjuftment, by
way of-companion, when no other mode could be
deviled, was fair and fatidadory. The meafure
now adopted was, without doubt, the florteft ; for
had the fuit gone on. it would have been fpun out
to a molt tedious and infufferable length. The
late Chancellor kept the papers in his pocket for
fix years before he could make up his opinion, and
if the fuit had been carried on, it mull, no doubt,
have partaken of that glorious uncertainty which
was one of the excellencies of the Britith Laws.
If he conceived the ground rightly, upon which
the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer
formed his motion, it was to be underflood that
the (urn was to be appropriated in immediately en-
abling his Royal Hightiefs to refume the Rate and
fplendour appropriate to his high rank. He wilhed
to know whether the Houle was to uaderliand
this to be the real GA ? If to, he lhould have much
greater pleafure in fupporting the motion; but he
begged to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman
if he was warranted from any authentic quarter, '
to give this affitrance to the Houfe ? becanfe if
they voted the fens under Inch an idea. and that I
afterwards It &told be found that the refumptioo
of o:at Rate, on the part of the'Prince, was to be
fill protracted, much dikontent and ditappoint-
ment mull be the natural confequence. Nor could
that Minifter be fairly raid to confide the honour I
of the Prince, in deceiving the Houle into a vote,
tender an idea that by liteb vote his Royal High- I i

nefs was to be immediately reflored to his tank h.
life, when in reality be mutt remain under embar-
rafrments that mull Gill longer oblige him to re.
main in obfcurity. But in all events, whatever
the raft was, it ought to be fully underftood. An
Hon. Member had this night moved for the read.
ing of fome patfages in his Majefty's Meffage on a
former occafion, refpefting the Prince's affairs, iu
order to prove that the Prince was thereby pre.
eluded from any further claims upon Parliament,
becaufe he was thereby conflrudively precluded
from contracting any new debts. But although the
letter of chore pelages certainly did not exprefsly
refirift his Royal Highnefs fromcontraitling debts,
yet he was ready to allow his Royal Highnefs was
las firmly bound in honour upon that point to ab.
Rain from contrafting new debts, after the vote
then paired, as if bound thereto by a condition,
worded in the fliongeff manner: but the fait was,
his Royal Highnefs had contrafted no new debts ;
nor had he made any claims on the public for pay.
went of his former debts; for finely the fubmittal
to exceffive reftraints upon his own income for the
liquidation of his Royal Highnefs's debts, was not
to be termed a burthen on the country for that
purpofe. But though his Royal Highnefs bad
contrafted no new debts, yet it was to be recol.
kited, that if thole arrangements, made with a
former Chancellor of the Excheqner, for the li.
quidation of his debts, had failed in Tome inftancv
of their intended effed, the Prince feeling hiafelf
bound in honour to make good the deficiency,was
Rill embarraffed, under the fenfe of that honoura-
ble obligation. On the former occafion, a turn of
600p0007. was voted in advance to the Prince for
the liquidation of his debts, to be veßed in the
hands of Truflees ; but when by public advertife-
ment all the claims of his Royal Highnefs were
called in, the aggregate was found to amount to
650,000 i. confequently there was a deficit of
go,oool. It was not thought advifable to make a
further application to Parliament : but the Com-
miflioners, to fupply the deficiency, prepofed to
the Creditors an abatement on their refpeltive
debts, of no lets than to per cent. This deduction
was not upon claims (*neutered as any ways frau.
dulent or overcharged, but upon debts fairly Riled
and admitted to be pit and reafonabk. This, he
contended, was, in dire& terms, cornpromifing
the honour of his Royal Highnefs; it was not pay.
irig, but compounding his debts; and his Royal
Highners, he Paid, had authorifed him to declare,
on a former oecafion, that he bed much rather
again apply to Parliament, and folic* a reftria-
tion of one year more upon his income, in order
to pay in NI every fair claim againft him, than
fubma to a meafure which his Royal Highs&
conceived to be Co degrading to his honour; nor
could be conceive that honour retisfied until he
had paid the tan farthing. Ifthen his 4oyal High.
nets was Rill to remain burthened with chime,
which he conceived himfelf bound, es debee d
honour, to difcharge. it was obvious the Ala sod
Itt
propored to the Houk, of enabling his
Highnea innnediatedly to refume his rank mill
propri*efplendour, would not be otsalood by
utte propeed. Itii was raid be was,*
of this vote, to be reamed to his tollells=
but not yet to refume his rank and flooss in
name kt the circumftanpes be explained t?lig
Hoofe, and forme definitive time meadow' at
which an explanation, fo anxious and form*
entertained by the nation, was really to be fildliked.
The Cn•ncettoa of the EXClrellyelt 11111
Was extremely defirons the Hour; Moot ltY
derßand the fubjed: and, to let the Hon. Member
right, under fome mikon.ception he feemed to el%
certain, be would now Rate, that the Cotnntiffion-
ers for enquiring into the affairs of his Royal Hiils-
nefs, of whom he had the honour to be one, attar
very minute inveftlgation, found that the claims
brought forward againft him amounted to
620,0001. but, for the parpofe of preparing agile*
every pollible claim which had not yet come for-
ward, it was fuppofed that; in the fulleft latitude,
650,0001. would meet the whole of the claims,
and every debt, the fairners and validity of which
had been fully proved to the fati.faaioo of the
C3mmillioners, had been fatisfaftorily difcharged.
It did appear, however, to the Cornmiffioners, tit*
the aggregate claim. coefiderably exceed6sotegoL
and they, therefore, felt it neceffary to flat* that
the debts greatly exceeded the Turn appropriated
by Parliament for their liquidation. Some dedue-
tion_was undoubtedly made upon debts vrkielt
appeared to be frauclqlently oyerchargedh bet tbp
proportion of theft 'was by no means confiderabk.
On many other claims there appeared to be pal.
pabk overcharges, abe-e what the ankles would
have been rated to men of ordinary rank, nogiqr
prompt payment ; but confidering the rank tithe
Prince, and that thole charges were made on st
nalculation of interell upon a very long credit. air
a very remote and uncertain payment, there ems
taothing its them which appealed very eureafisa-
ble. Under all the eircumftences, the Cornsk
boners tliought it advifable to Propofe'to the ow
ditors in general (excepting only thole who hm
claims for eateries or honfe-refits). a mode of li-
quidation, by ifitting to them payment for ;heft
refpaaive claims in debentures of ROL each, heap
in* intenft at 3 per cent. or it dattatUrtS of 901.
for every hundred, bearing intere at 5 per cent.
a mode of payment which, confidering that good
book debts bear no littera, was by no moms did
, advantageous. The claimants in generalaa
and red the debentures at 901. ai 5 per cent. chore
them for a long period. epectaating on a %Or&
Lion, by no means unfe(Gble, that on the return 4
peace they would fell at a eonfulerable advance.
Confidering then that the parties themfelves had
acknowledged this mode of payment as full and
fatisfattory, he Mould hope that hls Royal High.
nefs, on duly easeutering thole cireamftancess
would not feel his honour in any degree bound
to farther payments of any kind on the grail!
of there claims. With Teepee to the q Of
' the Hon. Gentleman, whether if was meant disk
immediately on pains the Dill now prorated. thy
'Prince of Wales was immediately to rams 1111
rank and Rate ? fie certainly did not son.*
start fuck confequence wee iinundiately to toot
place: But if it Gould be Mina to shin was
defirable. the circuit:fiance' would arife (nos solo
of cauks which would entitle his Royal INE%nft

to new claims upon the repel and gratitude e,
Parliament, and highly redound to his own ho-
nour. The public would have the fatisfailion of
knowing, that the effelt of the vote now propoted,
however, Ihould the Commiree adopt it, would
be to enable his Royal Highnefs to refurne the
hate and fplendour appropriate to his high rank,
three years and a half fooner than he could do, it'
fuch a vote did not pars; and though his Royal
Highnefs might nut be enabled immediately to re.
fume the whole of hit wonted fplendour, he might
do In in a very confiderable part ; and there was
every reafon to expeet his eflabliihment might be
fully complete by the end of the prefent, or fame
time in the next year. The Hon Gentleman had
Bated him to have laid, that this meafure was not
to be confidered in the light of a compromife. He
begged to fay, that he had Rated the meafure as
enie, which, by enabling his Royal Highnefs to
relinquith his fuit, gave him the greater fitisfac-
tion in fupporting it ; but independent of any con-
federation attached to that fuit, he certainly fhnuld
have given this meafure his fupport, whoever
might have brought it forward. The Hon. Mem-
ber, in attending to what had fallen from an Hon.
and Learned Friend of his (the Solicitor General),
who brought forward a motion on this fubjecl lad
year, had laid, that he mentioned an arrear of
eyoo,oool. due to the Prince on the revenues of the
Duchy of Cornwall. He denied, however, that
any fum was fpecified at the time, but that his
Hon. and Learned Friend merely Rated, that his
Royal Highnefs, when he came of age, had a
right to claim an account of the appropriation of
thole revenues daring his minority That right
he was ready to admit , he would even purlue
the fubjeet a little farther, and fuppofe the fuit
inflituted by his Royal Highnefs had come to
Mae in his favour, where, he would Mk, was the
fund upon which judgment could be executed?—
or would not an application to Parliament in that
tare become ultimately neceffary t In fuch cafe,
an account mull be opened between his Royal
Highnefs and the public, in which that part of the
Cornilh revenues, appropriated to the Civil Lift
during his minority, mull become chargeable
againft the public, and that public be bound to
tepay him. But how much more grateful to the
public feeling mists be the gracious and magnani-
mous fentin,ents, exprelfed this night by his Right
Hon. and Learned Friend (the Solicitor General)
on the part, and by the authority of his Royal
Highnefs—' that he would rather forego every
claim to his right than urge a fait that could be
confidered in the moll diftant degree difrefpetlful
to his Royal Parents,'—a declaration which molt
conficlerably encreafcd the fatisfaaion with which
be gave the meafure his fupport. He begged to
undeceive all thole without doors, who were apt
to indulge erroneous opinions on this fubjeet, by
fuppofing the prefent was a new claim for liquidat-
ing the debts of his Royal Highnefs. There was
no claim whatever againft him that had been dil-
l:lilted for want of fufficient funds for its payment.
There were no legal claims of debt againft him,
nor could his Royal Highnefs have emanated any
debt fince the vote of 1795, without violating the
condition upon which that vote was founded.
Mr. SHERIDAN in explanation Paid that he meant
tin redexion upon the Commiifioners : all-he con-
tended was that no reafon had been adduced to
thew why the mode in which the debts had been
paid, did not argue a compulfory deduaion of
their amount. The debentures had been at a dif-
count of 15 and so per cent. and the honour and
feeling of his Royal Highnefs muff be wounded at
feeing his creditors Mier fo material a lufs. In-
deed with fuch feelings it was impoffible he fkould
be at his cafe until that lots was made good.—
Noterithflanding the anxiety exprefted by all fides
of the Houfe, to fee his Royal Highnefs refume a
fuitable eflabliflonent as fpeedily as poffible, yet
he mull neceffarily give up another year before he
could antwer the demands that Hill flood againft
him. Was this the return which he had a right
to expect after the magnanimous facrifices he has
trade to the public ? And was he to be prevented
from returning to that fituation of fplendour in
which the Houle and the public were anxious to
fee him placed, merely becaufe fome debts re-
mained unpaid, which, if known, muff do the
greeted honour to the principles and feelings of his
Royal Highnefs ?
The CH•ItCELLOR of the Exciter/vita further
etplained and Paid, that he was ready to believe
that it was highly honourable to his Royal. High-
nets to delay returning his houfebold, until every
claim which he conceived to hand againft him,
had been fully finished. All be contended for
was, that if this delay took place, it was on account
of debts with which he was not acquainted. For
he knew of no debt that had not been fistisfied by
the Commiffioners. As to any kis that might
have been incurred by a claimant on the does-
totes, it was only that loft which attended a de-
preciation of the public funds. They may have
junk with the funds, but this was lately imputable
to the management of thole who held them.
Mr. Fox would trouble the Committee bat with
a few obfervittious on the prelim occafton. The
part he took in the rear tygy. when the Etlablifb.
mem of his Royal 1-lighnefs was under the con-
tideratims of the Houle, lie remembered well, for
nothing was more repugnant to his feelings than
what he then strewed to. But what was the mid.
lion now? His Royal Highnefs had fubmitted to
a fevere retrenchment of his diablifhment for eight
years (a feverity of retrenchment, indeed, which
%as rarely exercifed in private life); and now it
was Biked, Whether it was lit to relieve him from
jhat retrenchment for the four years to come ? And
•liew was that to be done? The claims of his Royal
Ilighnefs to the arrears due from the Duchy of
Cornwall, did not teem to be exprefsly admitted
by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Addington),
yet that Right Hon. Gentleman did fi:em to
admit that his Royal Highnefs was entitled to call
for an account of thofe arrears. 'faun the Prince
Lad a claim to eaU for that. account, and-that it
appeared to be an account of a large tufa, Purely
Parliament fhould inftitute an inquiry -how that
fim had been appropriated. or why it Mould not
be employed towards tbelionidation of .his Royal.
I lighnefes debts ? But the Right Hem.. Gentleman
I r, s, of what avail would it be to inititute filch= I

enquiry ; for even amid the claims of his Royal
Highnefs Be fitbllantiated, where was the royal
property upon which to execute judgment ?
This again was a fubjeet for Parliamentary in
mtiry. Indeed, for his part, he never could re-
tied upon the fltbjeet, without feeling furprize
and regret at the deltitute and contemptible Rate
in which the Royal Family were placed in this re-
tpeet--(4 cry of bear, hear) ; and here the relpeet-
ful manner in which his Royal Highnefs had eon
duffed himfelf towards his Majetty, fhould not be
forgotten or pas unnoticed. But it teems that the
meafure propoted this day was not to he con•
fidered in the light of a compromife. The Right
Honourable Gentleman only rays, that he is glad
Royal Highnefs contents to wave his claims ;
becatife the purfuing of it would place his Royal
Highnefs not only in an aukward fituation with ie-
fpeet to his Majefly, best alto with regard to the
public. How this fhould be it was not eary to
difeover. But in lieu of his claims, it teems his
Royal Highnefs is to he placed on the fame footing
in which he flood previous to the arrangement of
rm. Some Gentlemen might think, indeed,
that 125,0001. was a large income, even in fuch a
fituation as that of his Royal Highnefs. He mull
beg leave to be of a contrary opinion. The Houfe
fhould not look to the different value of money
at different times, when the revenue of the
Crown was confidered, and the increafe which
it might be proper to make in the Civil Lift,
and lofe fight altogether of the fame confidera-
Linn when it applied to the affairs of his Royal
Highnefs the Prince 'of Wales. Indeed it teem.
ed to be adverted to on all occafions, unlefs when
it regarded him, to whole fituation, however, it
was moil peculiarly applicable. lie, for one,
was of opinion that a fixed funs fhould be grant-
ed to the Prince, and to his Majefty, for the
demands of the Civil Lift; and that it fhould not
be examined and reviewed every year, with a re-
ference to the different value of money—or, if this
reference was made in the cafe of the one, fn alto
was it fair to make the fame reference in the cafe
of the other. The propofition now was to renore
the Prince to what he before enjoyed, viz. the
fum of 125,0001. ; but after this Refnlution is
agreed to, when is his Royal Highnefs to refume
the Ilyk and magnificence which his sank requires
him to maintain His Royal Highnefs lays it is
not in his power to refume them immediately;
with the motives that induce him to defer it, the
Right Honourable Gentleman profeffes to be ac-
quainted; but he does not choofe to etplain
them. Among thefe motives may be the pay-
ment of. foreign debts and other claims, claims
which honour and principle acknowledge to be
valid. But thefe, it teems, are not to be con-
ii,fered in the light of (trig claims. His Royal
Hi;hnets, however, may think and feel other-
wile. Neither, it appears, (hould he feel for
thole who loft ten per cent. on the debentures.
—Their lots was imputable to their own mifma-
nagement—for the e..ornmitrioners did not take
off ten per cent. of their value--for they gave the
creditors the option of debentures of tool.earing
an intereft of three per cent. or debentures of got.
bearing an inert& of sl. per, cent. The Right
Hon. Gentleman fays, theft debentures may have
been at a difeount at the time ; but that was on ac-
count of the Rate of public affairs, and there was
a great probability that after a time they would
have borne a premium—that might very well be.
These was a wide difference between a guinea and
a debenture, and it is to the value of any thing at
the particular time that is to be confidered as its
true value. The creditors, it may be true, were
not forced to &dud to per cent. but the terms held
out to them were fuch asto induce them to take 901.
debentures, and that even while the debentures were
at a dikount. He was not prepared to fay that all
thofe who loft so per cent. in the debentures, bad
claims upon his Royal Highnefs; but he, and not
Parliament, was the heft judge of the matter. But
the Right Hon. Gent. lays, his Royal Highnefs can
have contra ted no legal claims fence the year 1795.
The debts alluded so might not be what are called
aridly legal, but honour might look upon them
as fair claims—there again his Royal Highnefs,
and not the Houle, was the fitteft perfon to judge.
Under whatfoever afpeet theft claims might be
viewed, they mutt be filch in the mind of his
Royal Highnefs as to prevent him from immedi-
ately returning his wonted ellablifhment. To his
own prudence and economy it timely might now
be left to diflinguifh what were his legal, what his
promifable debts, and to judge of the time when
it might be convenient to him to appear again in
that Rate with which, from his rank and fituation,
be is espefted to be attended. He fhould not be
condemned to do at forty what he had done at
the age of twenty—en enter upon an eltablifhment
to whirl his income was inadequate. The wifdom
sad liberality of Parliament fliould guard him
againft fuch diracultiesl from what they have
lately witneff:d, they amid be induced to forget
the pall It was evident that his Royal Highnels
bad of late redeemed his charater by the moll
prudential regard to pecuniary affairs, and by a
fyllem of economy which it is fearcely natural to
expea in fuch a fituatiom What before was re•
latently, might now be joyfully performed, and
the Houle fbould no longer befitate in haftening
the moment when his Royal Highnefs might be
reflored tothat Rate of fplendour and magnificence,
of which the circumftences of his birth and expec-
tations fhould never be difrobed. _

Mr. FULLIR was of opinion that it was de-
grading his Royal Highnefs into the abjeet condi-
tion of a bankrupt. to permit his creditors to fullain
a loft on their claims of to percent.
Mr. BANK s contended that the ilitellion that had
been furred on the prefent occafion, &mild not
he agitated without bringibg, is to, Come Gail
decifion. An attention to the okatong
Highnefs by foam was mgardad as a mom of
favour. by others as a matter of right: The
Houfe indeed. did not know whether the claim
had been preferred or not. and it might be wife in
them not to come to a decifton opon,a, matter on
which they were' not competent to Amide—at leaf
fuch a quellion Was not nazi Wore them, andit
would not be fair to dehir his Royal High nellfrom
a petition of right, by the ptefeat motion' if he
pulfetlid fuels a right—neither would it be fair in

his Royal Higliner. to make any filch compromill
of his claim. In this view he Milted the tendency
of the refolution,and felt inclined to vote against it.
The quetlion was now loudly called for, and
the refolution was put and agreed to without a
divifion. The Honfe was then retuned, and the
Report ordered to be received tomorrow.—Adj.

FRANCE.

PARIS. FEBRUARY z 9.

A letter from Cape Francois, dated Dec. tg,
flates, that the Brigands were attacked in the camp
of Croix des Bouquets; that they were completely
beat, and they loft t goo men on the field of battle,
with the lofs, betides, of their colours and two
piec:s of cannon.
An article from Conftantinaple, of the 3 tft Dec.
lays, " that the idea which had been entertained
of the immediate evacuation of Egypt by the Bri-
tifh troops, in confequence of the arrival of feve-
ral tranfports at Alexandria, is unfounded. They
are to remain there fome time longer."
General Ns has written a long letter to the
Swifs Minifter for Foreign Affairs, relative to the
internal (late of Switzerland. He rays in it—
" Emiffaries from England, Officers in her pay,
and old Penfioners of that Power, enrol under the
eyes of the Civil Authorities, waout the leaft oct
pofition being made to them. A quantity of :nen
receive falartes to frond their audacio:ts enter-
prices. The agents of the Secret Police are in fome
refpefts in their pay. A counter Police exifts in
all parts of Helvetia, and all the ferrets of Govern.
ment are known to them. _ _ _ _

" The Mediator of Helvetia is treated with little
refped in libels and pamphlets circulated among
the people; the French foldier is confldered as the
enemy of Helvetic freedom ; feveral of them have
been the viaims of the animoftry excited againil
them, although, in general, the French troops have
obferved a wife and moderate condo& "
The General invites the Council of Execution
to take fuch fleps as (hall enfure the tranquillity
of the country. He promifes to fecond them in
their operations. The Council of Execution have
recommended obedience to the General's requili.
lions.