Star.
London, England, 1816-02-02 00:00:00

twines till nue flitirma,
we be plated to beat It ?
*it the country had been
it Gould be Irroided, it •
plain because great blessings
~eultien How fared other nation;
change Situations with France t At the close of this
hard contest, did not Prussia and Austria suffer in
their finances ? At the end of the American war,
could the Minister of the time have come down to
the House and said' that the country was in a flou-
rishing state ? Yet ht about ten years she had recce
vexed from all her losses, and now she would also
recover. It would be well, however, for the House
and for Government, to recollect what exertions the
people had made for 25 years to support the line
of policy which had at last so completely triumphed.
Theyhad borne difficulties*, because they had believed
that their duty to their countryiequired it, and be-
cause they hoped, that when they should obtain
peace, it weeed be attended with real rest. They had
strewn much confidence hi the measures of Govern-
ment; as his Majesty's Ministers must allow ; and it
was in fact but common justice, that when Ministers
bad led us through great difficulties, we should as-
sure them of our support in carrying us through the
less ; but the country expected that they would give
her all the relief ie their power to supply. That was
the sense of' the country at large. Many of those
who had given their wannest support to the public
exertions, were slow, by the diminution of the capital
employed, thrown out of their, occupations and in
want of relief. He thanked the House for the in-
dulgence which bad been shows him ; he was not
over anxious to trouble them, but when so much cre-
dit was due to the governing and governed, be could
not du IA duty better to those who had sent him to
that House, than by using this opportunity of return-
ing warm congratulation, for the attainment of so
many blessings. He concluded by moving an Ad-
dress, ,corresponding With the leading points of the
Speech. * •
Mr. METHUEN rose to second the motion, and
regretted that the task was not in better hands, con-
scious, as he was, of his inability to trait' a saint,
to which so much justice had already been done by
the eloquence of the Hod. Baronet. (Hear, hear 1)-0
Yet the circumstances of the country were such ascii'
encourage examination. If the House looked back a
few months, when-the Disturber of Europe had re.
sumed his despotic power, what thanks would they.
not give for their deliverance I They had not to coos
gratulate the Niue Regent on a particular iticthefs
however gratifying that might be, but on s lasting
and honourable peace ; the result indeed of a glori-
ous action, and setting the seal to the fame of out
Commander. To him we were iadebtel for our pre-
sent proud situation. It was gratifying to compare
it with that in which we wail placed alter the Poet
of 1802. We bad now reaped the haivest of our ex.
anions. By our example Europe had been awakened,
and to the firmness and decision of Ministers we
owed that we were not now suffering under despedsee.
We had supported the cause of liberty and justice
against tyranny. Not only in Europe, but by the coa-
-1 quest of the kingdom of Candia, our arms had over-
'thrown the vilest tyranny. Could any one recollect
the horrors and toils which Europe had endored, and
not be thankful for the blessings ebtained ? We had
*been the rallying point of legitimate Sovereigns. We
had heard the thunder rolling afar off, and seen the
bolt strike others, and we had treasured freedom and,
'tranquillity, not only for this generation, but for our
children. He then proceeded to the situation of agri-
culture, which, he thought, would soon recovet from
a depression occasioned by extraordinary circum-
'stances. He hoped, that while deploring that partial
evil, no person would impress ideas of despondency
on the people, and concluded by apologising to the
House for trespassing so long upon their attention.
Mr. BRAND felt b;mselt placed in peculiar cir-
eumseauces, in having to follow the lion. Baronet
who bad spoken with so much eloquence and mode-
ration. He differed from him in very few points, and
did not rise to oppose him. In fact, had the Hon.
Baronet introduced into his Address a topic which
he had discussed in his speech, he probably should
have seen no occasion to intru6 upon the House.—
The Honourable Baronet had alluded to the (Ill-
nesses of the times, and the necessity of relieving
them ; but he bad omitted an his Address to lance
duce a resolution to enter into such an inquiry as
would iced to their being known and relieved.—
This was the omission which he intended to till up.
He wished the House to give a pledge that it wat
ready to undergo any inquiry. There was another-
point too to which the Honourable Baronet had not
alluded, and feeling as he did, and delighted as be
was at the downfall of the French Tyrant, and the
situation in which Europe was placed, he was un-
posed that the Honourable Baronet should have been
content to remain so long in the dark, and that Par-
liament should not have been sunitnoned earlier to
cake a view of Treaties of such importance. Thin
in such circumstances Ministers should neglect to
call together the National Representeitives, was a
mark of disrespect to the people. When Treaties
were entered into, the; raised questions of a doubt.
fur nature respecting we laws of nations audible cap'
stitetion. Means of arrangement must be adopted
by which a large military force cats be maintained
permanently, and many financial points are also to
be considered. If a large military establishment be
kept up abroad, the same must be retained at home,l
in order to fill up the casualties, and maintain the ins
tegrity of Cie former. He should abstain from enter-
ing into particulars now, but he had only thrown out
those observations to chew that subjects of vast con.'
&neonatal importance ought not to have been kept so
long from the scrutinizing eye of Parliament. He
again lamented that the Honourable Baronet and se-
conder had not recollected in their address the raise:
ries which the people endured, and wished the House
to pledge itself to inquiry, because relief was deemed
by many impossible. He did not think so. With
proper economy the vast and oppressive taxation now
existing might be greatly reduced, and the country
,relieved in a considerable degree. He therefore
wished Ministers to adept of themselves an expres-
sion of their determination to go into inquiry.. He
did not do this in. a hostile manner, but he considered
it their duty to lend ahead to raise the country out
of its difficulties. The Honourable Baronet dross
unconstitutionally to leave the country in the hands
of Ministers for relief, whilst he wished to place it in
the bands of its saws) guardians; the Coiamons.—

he lam* with'sfeet
opinion of the Hoare about the
relief. If be could be sobappy
_opinion' he should have done
_ the people. With this view,
there was little possibility of ob.
jection to a ni;derite amer.dment, he would not anti-
cipate opposition to that which he should now pro.:,
pose to the House. He then moved; that the follow.
mg words should form part of the Addreis on the
Speech :
And to represent to his Royal Highness, that it was the
duty of hi[ Majesty's Ministers to have advised his Royal High
news to communicate te Parliament the Treaties coliciudel be-
tween the Allies and France, and which, after having beta acted
upon for three months, are now laid before the Bowe.
" To represent to his Royal Highness that the estratwaloary
length of the prorogatien of Parliament was deeply ,e rotted by
kis faithful COMIIIOOIIa as they considtred that the unexampled
tatbarrewownts of Mutual aMirs, as well as foreign relations,

particularly required SS sadist meeting of Parlament.
" suds an earlier meeting appeared to be called for by the
present necessity elating tur a careful revisal of the pubic expen
diture, and that the Eiwae abauhi proceed without delay to take
into its most serious consideration the state of the country."
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, (on the Amendment
being handed up to the Chair,) made some observa-
tions on the Address generally, and with certain
parts of which he could not by any means agree.—
Fhe Honourable Baronet who bid proposed it had
alluded to the present distress of the country, as s
thing unavoidable, and which was far moire than
counterbalanced by the advantages of the peace, but
he had not made any allowance for the causes of this
distress. The distress was universal and evident,
and the answer of the Honourable Baronet W 0...
46 Look at the present situation cf the country."
Well, what was the real situation of the country ?
Unfortunately, it was very different from that of the
prosperity which had been boasted of. Of what con-
sequence was it to vaunt of our having gained vic-
tory after victory, when those successes had left the
landlords all over the kingdom unaLle to pay their
taxes ; their tenants unable to pay their rents, be-
cause they could not sell their produce; the trader
unable to find purchasers for his goods ; the mecha-
nic,in consequence, thrown out of bread ; thus, in
short, producing in all ranks, from the highest to the
',loyeet, one universal scene of poverty and distress.—
In such a situation, it was too much to expect that
the people would be entirely satisfied, with the peace,
%bile they were obliged to support such a large esta-
blishment, as it was more than hinted would be ne-
cessary for our security. When the House was com-
plimented on the high situation which the country
bad attained, he would ask Gentlemen to investigate
the nature of this situation. Let them look. at our
situation abroad as well as at hbnie, and then let them
say whether we have obtained by the peace those ob-
jects with which any Englishman -can be satisfied.—
After such terrible sacrifices of human lite, and the
expenditure of countless millions in the prosecution
of the war, could it be said that we were secure in
not being engaged in a new one ? He thought our se-
curity rested On a very slender foundation. France
had still as much territory left her as in the time of
Williem 111. and what was to prevent her from again
' becoming a great military nation ? But oar situa-
don at home was truly dreadful, for the reported in-
tension: of Ministers left the people no hope of being
relieved from their. burdens. It was reported tlin
Ministers intended very shortly to propose to continue,
a great part of the Income tax. He feared, how.
ever, that when they came to milk the cow. they
would find her dry. (Near, hear.) He would say
that there could ,be no more dreadful calamity for
this country than the continuance of the tax in ques-
tion. It had been mentioned, to the glory of Govern-
ment, that they bad succeeded in effecting the aboli-
tion of the Slave Trade on the part of France. No
man more sincerely rejoiced at this event than him-
self ; but when he WAS asked to give praise to our
negotiator for this advantage to humanity, he could
not but remember that only a short time before the
Noble Lord either did not use the same influence that
he had lately done, or else the King of France had
set his face entirely against the abolition. Bin be
this as it may, though we were told that the King
had at length succeeded in persuading his people to
consent to the abolition, it onght to be rememhered
that Bonaparte, whom it had been the custom, in and
out of that House, continually to load with abuse,
the greater part of which he dare say he might de.
serve, (Laughkr), had effected this abolition at once,
and without any ceremony ; the merit of the event,
therefore, lay with him. it was he who had done the
act, and he (Lord Russell) Should be very sorry if
all the credit of it were given to our Government...-.
The
.good faith of the Bourbons was held out, as a
security for the peace ; it had too often, however,
been our. lot. on the occasion of former wars, to hear
of their bad faith. He supposed, however, dint they
;night have learned, by their long residence in this
country, the great moral lesson of good faith, and he
hoped we might find that they would not forget it in
their own. But of this he had his doubts. It ap-
peared to him, that chair want of. good faith, in the
non-payment of -the pension agreesi to be given to
Bonaparte, was the cause of his,return to France, and
all the miseries attending it. He could not but notice
one passage in the speech of the Hon. seconder of-
the motion. When alluding to the results ofethe war,
be bad said that this country had become the rallying
point of legitimacy. It was now near a century and
a half ago since his own (Lord Russell's) family
were in an obscure situation, without any of that
wealth and those honours which had since been be-
stowed on them, and he could not but think that it
was a vast advantage to this country that such ideas
did not then prevail. If they had—if this country
-had been made a. rallying point for legitimacy then ;
if it had not disturbed the regular order of the succes-
lion, what would have become of the present faniily
op the throne? He conceived they could not be
[ober-pleased at hearing such long panegyrics on that
subject, as, but for a different spirit at the time in
question, they might now (instead of reigning over
UliS great and powerful nation) be balding dominion
Oar some little insignificant spot of Germany, and
instead of having vast revenues and mighty fleets and
,armies at their disposal, have been engaged in direr.
sing • the movements of a few thousands of infantry
and two or time regiments of horse grenadiers.—
Hiving thought it right to make these brie observa-
tions on those points ache speeches of the Honour-
able Member's which did not coincide with his own
ideas. he should apologise to the douse for thus far
taking up their time.

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