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the objection had been made, he would bes permission,
to withdrawrire Petitittn. . •
The LORD CHANCELLOR inquired if the other
Petitions wet e liable to the same objection ?
Lord STRANGFORD said, that he would not now
present the other Petitiony,
' —ll.itittlG NOUS.
The Marquis of CVEVICLAND presented a Petition from
Smith Shields against the abolition of small notes.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE begged to ask a ques-
tion with respect to the currency. It the Small Note
Bill went into complete opeiation, he anticipated some
inconvenience from the insuXcient supply of silver
coin. By the present regulations of the Mint there was
a large seigniorage upon 'the coinage of silver, and
none upon the coinage of gold. In this state of things
it -was necessary that the supply of silver coin should be
kept in a state. of eficiency, in order that gold and
silver might circulate together. He would recommend
such a regulation as might admit of a free mint for
silver as well as gold, and this would, in his opinion,
obviate all the inconveniences anticipated from the ex-
tinction of small notes. What he wished to know was,
whether 41. y such measure was in contemplation? ' •
The Duke of WELLINGTON, in reply to the Noble
Lord, had only to say, that there was no iuteatioti of
altering the Mint regulations. He did 'licit know
whether his Noble Friend would be satisfied with the
statement lie was about to make,, hot Gower-disent had
tot reason to believe that there was any deficiency of
silver coin ; on the contrary, there seemed ta.be lather
a superfluity. Them were great quaritities'at the Mint,
and great quantities also at the Bank. ,
stymies IN INDIA.
Lord 'DUN DAS presented a Petition from Gilderston, in the
cou'ity;of York, praying that the practice of burning Made*
Widows might be abolished, , , _ , ; . •
FORTUVUEsi GOVERNIIENT—LORD DEIIILIMORIII.
Lord DUN DAS said, that in consequence of rumours
Which he had heard, he took that opportunity of calling
'upon the Noble Viscount at the head of the Ordnance.
for .some explanations. He forbore
.to rocution. more
particularlv the nature of the rumours in circulation, as
the Noble Viscount could not be unacquainted with the
' irestoon-te 'Which he alluded. ~ He begged however to
. a..., , anite.sitie Neble Lord, that in calling , his atteutpu AO
:this subject, he was not actuated by
,any feelings of
. • hostility to his Majesty's Government, or personally
to him. . . , i . • .
' Lord IrERESFORTi said that ,he would not occupy
any part of the short periods, during, which he must
trouble theirLordstAps, by atrinsidvermig,opon the ma-
- licious motives of those who had propagated die ru-
- ' *tours to which allusion had been made,. nor would be
• ' stop to discuss the question. whether he was obliged to
.. ,
render the explanations which had been demanded of
' him. Avery Noble Lord who heard, him must be
''."' 'aware of the long 'connection which had subsisted be-
"' tweed him and the Portuguese Government and nation,
a coririection new of r years' duration. it could not
tor, • .. ,•
:4.4. 4,egfcite surprise. that in thaecour se of this long connection,
~., a a, billoti formed; Iritinfacses witk nsapy of the most dis-
.,•-i.O ArOished characters cif' natioo. In consequence Of
41,... , thilatimaciei so foymed, he bad since the war been in
:6 - ' 'the habit 'of crirrestiOndence, not only with
.the late
.-.''" • .tiog of Portugal, but with many of.his Ministers. He
... .. did not mead constant and regular. correspondence, but '
• ' correspondence froth time to time—=a correspondence
'of business, of friendship, and hedid' not deliy that am-
•'''''" atonally it might relate to political affairs of imp.artance
to the two countries. ' His advice had sometimes been
asked upon political affairs; and when so asked it had,
'• - bees given; but the political part of his correspondence
was of the less important.. as he could very safely say,
- - that his advice, when asked, and given, had never beep
". *attended with any effect. This, however, had no rela-
. t';- ' • tion to the charges which had been made against him
•:. •• • in another place. It was said that he had carried on a
!.. '..• , comespondence with the present Ministers of the Re
gent. The Prime Miniiter was the Duke of Cadoval,
. • ' and it was true that he had Maintained some CAMS..
pcmdence with him, but whether.to the effect stated in
4.. 'another ptace was the question. He did not know till
west day that toy charge had. been 'Made against him,
and he was even then at some loss to know specifically
what the charge-wai, for be was hot in the habit of at-
•'• ' ttending much to inoteMents.of.tbis deieriptica... *So
. far as he had been enabled to understatidthe charge, it
;r: *as that he tad encouraged the Prince Regent to over-
-. ):' . ..ditose *she Constitution, and•to dissolve the two Chem-
-N, `-,.<*eres. and that he had further given him tir his Ministers
afiVel. reason to' believe that such Prdieediags would lip?
:fte . 'proved of by his Majesteilliaisters. *fore is,dis-,
il)e
4••• tinctly replied isithii charge, be must state thit he ex-
" ..,....istence of such' a Correspoodence between distinguished'
.:-.. 'lndividuals in Portugal Add himself had been kocren,ta
. -. • ' - 'the Berl of Liverpool, to Mr. Canning., and: to his Noble
Friend, and that he bad occasionally Shown thethiletters
••••• : -which- he had receivectia the course of that Cr:wrist:son-
, ..1 .: deuce. He bad never collected froth any one tlsat the,
-.'ds ••-slightest abjection' ebuldbe entertained to such 4 :VW.,
' * --,;" ' respondence, ndr tablet* entertain an idea of the pas-
- •r•i: •,. ability of 'OA an objection. Eiji answers to the her ter:
:*_•:_.."•lie received hid never been shown, but in ieterritig to_
• .-' :chis copies of these insWers, he found that there. ,_sx'ae,
.. .-: only one instance in which he had recurred to the opinion
of his Majesty's Ministers, and' that in this instaicehis,
-.. .., t statement was diametrically Opposite to that wliichhe
...
~..
to
been supposed to have made. Then
. with iesPect
. .to the encouragement. he was
,said to.have givenito. the:
~,.... ~ overthrow of the Constitution, he
,bad referred to the
~ ? subject olost sparinglr.”d:eiritiortile. but so far as.he
- ''' 'bid referred to it, ffie sentiments he had elpieSsed Were
, :',.."-entiiely the'revirse of those which bad hem% imputed
"" to him. • , .
i:' I.
' The Dolielaf WELLINGTON said, ihsit' -his Noble
''..,'" s.Friead had shown hills certain letters :he had" issecieltd
1'71..4-',f(tini Portugal. One af those letters Fete:led to the
I:',s:#
,ie!tiltiort of conirolaili the ancient Cott* Ibis letter.
L,..,,,. Igo Noble Filmd declared td him' he would int answer
iwt,,t at 11111: ' Willi r#peet Ur the ottier letters, they were is
;;
..Itiaticeitt; sti sat:y letter's *e'rioldlst? ' As 'for authorising
, 1`..,,Ns Noble Mead' to Write tii 'Portugal ' the. opinions of
so. A 7 ..47._•!' •.. ' • •• • : • - / i.) . . :- •• ~ •
,; '. this troveraMent, be beset. had aothortsed fits Noble,
'it"' '' retioditti (facility 'Web thing, 144 fit hoped their Lord
1':" 4'ibips had too-nsuchionfiderice itiliii ktiewledge of witat
~ c '"'wA drie to his Ccillealities; What-was din tti the pablkic
' ..,' ind'iillat **as die' ict hill bisaliettil Repreie'ntatireitt,
st•- t...d.___,..- , ..• , . • .. , • . _ •, ,
• Vi of Lisbon, to suppo th bwould Authorise'
-'' '''elsi ifielfemnieetion to be mad; the te - • —mrernment at
`i''''Perti 1, ~ ~, , with
~.••._
... ga_. except throagli opt : ' ostssanort tool
~ . , knowledge of his ealliagiiii--( r, beat) very maw
's ;anti use his min disttetion reirectiiis.biirtirate car.
. • respondence; and he did • hot suppobe *At any man
t.. living, like his Noble Friend, twenty yeauf in a cortry,.
.. , . should not nave an extensive correspondence ersilt it.
` . . and be anxious to keep'up the connexion and theiriend.
!1 . ship. At the stone tine; it was to be expected, that in
, conducting such s. 'correspondence, a man would use
discretion, and noc.contioue it when it was supposed
Mathis correspondence bad considerable infiuenc,ona the
Flucearstances, of that country from his situation in this.
' ''' laid i"ESFOIID saithe bad omitted, he be
7i'l' Attl,id; tilialutinhiti he bad Strongly *recommended ate
'" '44Pesiikeese iibt to destF9y lie Cootitetion. The first
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he had heard of it was in a letter from the Poke 01 C?.
dowel. In, that letter. which was written • On thiOth
of April;
be was required io suspend his judgMent till
be receiver] further explanations. On the 19th of May'
fie had received those exFlanittiOns, and lip to that time
fie had not written an answer. He never had answered
that letter of April 26, and in ell his correspondence,
he never had any connexion with the Members of that
Onvernment.—Here the mutter rested.
The Scotch Madhouse Bill went through a Committee, the re-,
peal was received, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time on
Monday.
The Hotel Licensing m
Bill was committed ; and, on the *don of
the Earl of Soarrnsuer, the Report was ordered to be taken into
consideration this day three months.
The House then adjourned at Seven o'Cinex.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Sir Id. Marteneoz took the oaths and his seat.
Sir H. PARNELL presented the First Report of the Finance
Committee—Ordered to be priited.
Sir J. Q RA kIA hl pretested a Petition from Great Duffield,
Yorkshire, praying the Abolition of. Slaves y in the West Indies. .
Lord J. TOW NSHEND presented a similar Petition from
Hil.tone.
Mr. F.T.F.WIS presented a Pethion'from the Wool-grower of
Radnorshire against the importation of Foreign Wool. • Though
he could not support the prayer for an increased duty on Foreign
Wool, be thought the home wool-growers were entitled to so much
relief as might arisefroth the exportation of woollen war which
branch of trade, if encouraged, would, he was sure, form an etttrert
of great value.
.80. E. KNATCHBULL supported the Petition„ • :
Mr. tkrliWSON, btopzht in A BM torthe litgolation' of Bache
'Duties'ort "mile eirryitvg passeneers„ and another for repeats; the
Duties 'On lass, and granting others in place ut them. •
Mt. Aldetman THO MF'SON ajsprebetided that the former Bering
would prove inconvenient, to the Shipping Interest ; hr hoped it
would not be enacted ,into a Iserhetore that, Interest should; have.
as opportunity of expre9ing theie.tieotfineets on iu_
Sir X.'YdRICE hoped there was no intention to *rein the
duty on glass, The effect of the present duty On that article was.
the nianefacture of glass se thin and frigilethat it yielded to the
first blast of wind, and endangered the health of all persons whoa
had at house.with windows. to put their head, in. . , •
Mr. KENNEDY asked whether the object ir tbe'Act was to
equalize the. duiles on glass manitfictOred in. England and inland?
Mr. DAWSON answered in the affitmitive; adding. at the
inequality of the duty had given rise 'to much unuggliog in the
article of glass. ,
Mr. P. THOMSON hoped. that )i thy, *its; duty of
was to be exacted from every ffiiir carrying planners, the clausal
•enacting it would be expunged from the Bill, as bin was crinvinced.l
it would be injurious to the sitippiog interest. •
Mr. DAWSON said, that the dozy was to be kited only on
picketi plying between the United jangdom. , ,
The Bills were then read a first time, nimell—the Glass
Duties Equalizatkm ; the Packet Beats Repilation Bill
and the Spirit' Rectification Bill.—To be read a second time on
Monday next.
Aker a fear words from Mr. Lerst.mon, .the Sugar' Duties
Annual Bill was read a first time.—To be read i second time on
Monday.
Mt. TRANT presented a Pegition- froln baler, igainst the
Alehouse Licensing BDL . • •
Mr. BASTARD presented a Petition from Ilfracombe, 'salami
Catholic Emancipation.
Mr. BYRON presented a Parities from Hertford, azainstWen
Indian Slavery.. ].
. Mr. LEGH . KECK presented n Pinkies 'from the Land
Owners of the County of Leicester, in favour of the circulation et
Small_ Notes. • '
Mr. DUGDALE'preeented'a Petion train the county erfriesl
wick, praying for the abolition of Neer* Slavery:
Sir J. NEWPORT presented a Petition from merchantaand
others concerned in the tobacco trade• of Belfast, praying. for a re-
Pealof the duty on tobacco. While the cost price of. a posed
tobacco was sixpence.' and the duty on • each pound was thaw,
shillings, there must be extensive' imuggfing in 'that article.--Laid
no the table. • . •
Mr. Alderman THOMPSON, In mewing a Petition final•
certain salesmen against the removal of Smitbfitid Markets' wen-
eieded to show the many inconieuiences which he thought world
nesult•from the removal of the market out of London. The price
of animal food would be We:eased; the facilities arising Os pit..-
.chasers and'sellers, from the vicinity of the market to their banking'
houses, would be lost; tbedealers in the market would be Obliged
to carry' their cash about them, and so invite the attacks of more
minteross pickpockets; the interest's, of the persons holding pro.
porgy about Smithfield would be seriousitinjured: For these. and
Other reasons tbe Hop. Member hoped that .an inquiry into the
siblem would he postponed by she House neat Session, as he
'eras of opinion that the Corporation of Londop.thp salesmen, and*
odors fitereited, 'would come before that time* to an imitable
adijimeraent of the matter.. The Peril systeitt of *abittoits was not
applicable to London. either* were thirty bead of cattle slaughtered
in London for one killed in Paris.
Sie.l. YORKE had'read .an atcoilitt of ilje erocearlings that oc-
curred lathe slaughter hOons ethnic Smithfield, Which, together
with the Grand Junction Cosipany'aeritier; were effete( to give the
Mow a general vomit—(Laughter). • Something. should be done
to remove the internal nuisances of Smithfield. market, and also
'that secoodary nalatioe namely, the stream of putrid sari 'treat
flowed front it into Rte.:Mums. ••• •
. .
and
TRENCH clindethfied the present state SarithSeld,'
and argued in (avow ef abattoirs. He should be airy happrto see: i
Milbank Penitentiary itscicconverted into a pand abattoir. • •
Mr. Alderman 'WOOD supported the, prieye% of the Petithia:
The present inaingenierit • state of • Stuhhfield was not the fah tsf
Corporatido of London: Tbejliad brought Viten Bills des the
t in tett or twelve years. Yet every one of thenteres rejekted
the House. As to the Petition that had beep presented's few
'ts ago'fiw the. removal of. the marhet,* wise oure,At was hot
signed by step *arsons • intiresied in the roatter--Aat, none.in fact,
kit military slier, insincere, ',inciters, lad 'sibd Ind* no:
thing at all about the Advantages of SmitlifieM;•teut Overt' afraid nt
one or two ad boils in the year. He hepatitis* Akin woad pay'
ne attention' io 'their ipplicution. ;•• • j
the petit-leis was then laid *tithe tab*
MUNDY presented i Petition preying' the-sirtislition.of
.111peryin the West Indies. ' • : I
KENNEDY preseeted a Petition from the •Pieshiteriani
if Lower Canada, praying that a pottion. of . the land xesemed for
-be Clergy Might be given for the support of their Ciergy'lleia
Mad had bees granted for the sup Pert of the Protestant Clergy ;
Os Scottish Church being Protestant, • and' legaill•eitabliiked by
the Act of Unitas, was therefore entitled to a part of this land for
proiision of members., The Hon. hiernber moved.that the
tilaidai be referred tithe Committee fitting In the affairs of
Mr. ESTCoURT hoped that the around 'Of 'the inplication
would be iovestigated77would be attentively investigated—before'
Petition'stiouldie receinmendesi to the poticeuf the Oonunitte
'she statements of the Hon., Member appeared to hint loud&
Issggerated.
Pa Petition was then ordered to lielaid on the table. •
Mr. P EN DA R V BS preventeel a Petition Irons the Antislavery
Society of Truro, praytog for the abolition of Slattery. The Hoo.
'Member also presented a Petition from an, ipdividurd of the name'of William Thomas, of the county of COnswill, is fairour of the
circulation of small notes. • '
Mr. PORThI A N presented a Petition tress a pbceliin the bounty
of Middlesex apinst Friendly Soviet*.
Mr. LYGON presented a Petition frmityhe silk tbrowaters of
Blocking, in Woreettetshire, praying protection for the silk:trade.
Laid 'E. SOMERSET presented a Attain.' Petition, from'.
Overbury.
Mr. Ltrrimpx, in resenting a similar Pietism! from Ntw-
cank-ader-Line. inquired of, the Secretary to Treaserf; in
tie absence of the President of the amide( Trade, it atbjestra
Government bad made up their saiedtas re owersO tbilr would
pursue sport this subject? 'lb, • eesuest l iw wand eingm • su
• ApPiat mat. . • . ,
.k.W Mr. DlK)Nrrild. R yp; 1ip;1nie.4..4, his Not. Ned.
Fileie4qlsl Preilderit of 'the. Board of Trade: to propose that the
litm oral present lair be continued for one year.
• 114.11AarDAV.IS =eti a Petition' fresh theUseased
NikteillersigsbeCiry.44 complaining of the cider shops.
tralfaiiNp4fieffd rat sk few writ to return a Member for
the 60144 4 CUM- t
v. 41r. having accepted the Ace
of Presiding rif dliVoiltaieradou
On the tendon of NA; ",thelarthree terlOsferation of the
Report upon Use Aietinit Jacesuist iisa was t• (ryes-
-414Y 1111 - 1... • • -
Mr. 0040/Stigq nested, opOo hfe *in pat4.kad
. „ .
on past,c**. .1101.itsjdoSis, wbp had the 04nit
opinions we" Massifs tmopp 01094 poll! ati
elections, that kis*, ;Member tot,.. Montrose iffiolt
delei his.Foolitto,upoo the spatijeee, to tojiii fame, ..ftfea.
biOn, 'riven kistils;eptgct: be doic. to - the Preoitai
six* OftheZefsioe, 04 'of the ?laic huriaess, it. Would
ye '
Impossible, that the menus;
_qpitsFlostion _could be
•
'-bOtowed upon it whKbtt woobkeemated, sad to ;whirl)
-
• tided
it was so fully en . . .
Mr. lIUME said i opatou as to the expediency of

bringing the question under diselissina IS $OOll as 1035'
sible,.r_emained unaltered ; bOt,be wbislds neverthetes,
yield,*upon the iiiiderstaidingthat it was tobebinught
forward early blithe next &won.
mom At ciproticit. . • .
Sir F. BURDETT rose Co retina *:Petsition from
the Roman. Catholics of a. Palish in. helapd. preYindi
, for Relief from theDisabititiesUnderlibielltheylalioise.
It must be acknowledged, said he, after the decision to
which the other House have come, that the Petitioners
are late in their application; but as it ;is- it mauer:ofi
.importance to see how the question dues really stands
'and as it certainly holds a deferent position from any
that it ever did at any former, period,
.canent aridi
taking the opportunity. 4( saying. a few. wordi on the
,geberal subject, It strata me, and I
.hype it will alp-
_pear in the same light, to the people of Ireland, that
thottglfthe Reiman Catholics may notbe altogether gilds-.
fled whit what has taken phse.yet.they have more Oilskin;
asilegrOundi4 hoise—moie rational grounds of ez pect a-
• ..
thin, than they. evez,.liad
,before;. and 1 anxiously hope
that; this Will have the effect,. which
.it undoubtedly
ought to have. namely, till* of tranquilizing men's
rinds, and, allaying that beat and irritation which it is
.impossible but that they must feel.. It is impossible that
Millions of men can be debarred from their just rights?.
after which they have been so long and so anxiously in
puesuit, and after having been at times so near to their,
attainment-1 say it is impossible that This state
things can be, wibout much irritation being felt' at the
delay of a boon, ad we are pleased to call of a
boon which they have a right to ' demand in die uame
ofjpstice, and of the Constitution. I treSi,Sir,that between
this and the next Session the Roman Catholics,' calling
to mind theexpression of favourable feeling towards
them which has been lately made by this House, mod
remembering is how many different forms measures for.
their relief have been sent up to the other Hods; that
they will refrain from any menitestation of ditcontent
at. the disappointment which their most cherished hopet,
bave been again destined to experience. It is true that
'thequestiop has been hitherto defeated, from the fir-
eumstance 'of none of the many forms in which we have
sent it up to the Other Heine having teen found suffi,.
ciently satisfactory to their Lordships; if wisdom.
ae really taught by experience, I. km 'toe 'that sebeu
.they reflect on the various times' and circumstances
under which this measure hasbeen brought forward, all
who have not already madcap their minds to the di*
diency of conceding it wilt yet do so.if, as I say, they will
only reflect on the past, and consider that they would
be now happy to have the question settled on the tame
terms they might have had at settled On in former times,
and if they will take it into consideration that it is
acknowledged by all hands, by advocates and opponents,
that the question cannot rest much longer in. its present
state. •I trust, too, Sir, thit. the House of COmmons
will reinforce their appeal to the wisdom, and judgment,
and prudence of their Lordships, and that when any mea.
cute for the relief of the Roman Catholics nett goes up se
strongly recommended, as to leave no hesitation in the.
mind of* the Minister Of the day, whoever he may be,
of the expediency—or, let me rather say, the absolute
necessity.--.of its speedy edoption, 'that there will be
no hesitation in conceding it—(Loud cheers).—I trust,
Sir, the Roman Catholics *ill feel that they may now
hopei and that ibis will have the effect not of relaxing
then constitutional exertionsnot of putting an end to
those efforts which by law they are entitled to make—,
no, Sir; on the contrary, I hope they will persevere ie
these, but that at the -same time they will emu:mil the
expression of the disappointment they may feel within
e•bounds of law, Of reason, and of constitutional right
however, as I before said, 'coati:tieing to claini'
that relief which cannot 'be long withheld Irons thpit
—(Cheers). There is one thing gives me great
consolation in considering this subject: It is that we
now have 'a Minister whohis disembarrassed the ques.
tioh Of all' ancient prejudicesteho has cleated it from
all the learned lumber, if I may be allowed the term,
that was formerly flung about it—a Miqister who has
freed' it•of all that odium tlii4osicunt that. used to be
brought to its discussion in another 'Place—so that when,
the question again comes before the House, there will
be• no long4r the least necessity, tor i;npon.
ciee pttatikidi ' compacts-or the faith. prodied. ia Abe
Tr.etttfigLitsiisick, art& hopes:held cot it* Union..
the question will hate to rest putilt)lrtiOnds but
tistiso ebeniaiig sense,*' ajnaii4, eiVediency ;
Macho issit shitratiesnistfik m a oment to isidaynlne
e otter mends upou.wisich-a stand wit made, and
latish I consider the stronger (tons the antiquity of the
dates, bat which* itte,' after 10,-
.the 'strongest grounds
that can hi 'Oleo. ihrisepounds, then, aloie Will
tyre koestirin halite ;to be 'considered ;Viand I
wish to'add, that iris my firm .conviction that a person_
like the Noble Duke now at the head Of his' Kaje,-.,
Er i `dbetrninent Would not pernsitisimselt to hold
any *language of an ansbiguournature, or that *otdd
be liable to misinterpretation, on a subject of skit
ts:61111. tihr:
1441 importance. It would be miworthy
hou'ld be irnpristible for-.--the Elute at Wellington to
state reasonable grounds for hopes Which • he had not
equally reasonable grounds to Itnowihe would be able
sin
cheering).—la this-eonyietion, Sir, I.
AM 'question, 'coofident that when it
brought forward it will meet with. that
candid Consideration which kheie every reason to be-
lieve it will.. The question is tioar happily narrowed to
.0044. brhleh alone we have to look in our. at-
iiiiiptliaaeitsitplish that end which I hope we have all
siailie in view. The Hon. Bart. then went on to con-
' tend that it has inctimbeetwa thisie who put the question
dßali'sectirides, to state 'whit YOttifiles they demanded..
444010 this, on(ter should have been ascertained, it
wield be for the Legislature to follow •up the plan
which had- Isbell indicated in another plate, by the
Nettle Duke et the head of his Majesty's GOveratilent,.
elm in another place had very recently declared," that
it.was,not for us to enter into any terms or conditions—
that it was not for us to ask the Pope of any other Power
what" tie ought to do." He had heard the. Noble Duke
eipisterhimself iri those terms with singular' atisfaction.
He concurred With him in thinking.that we ought to act
tearlessly, and he (Sir F. Burdett) would 'Only add—
justly ; (WO weO should 'be giiingihe'Cleatestk the
best; iitifst ',lac. loal security which could *be
provided for the'Established Church, in all points upon
which it might be deemed necessary to afford protection
against:M.llSe Mine tlfitcoticeiiions were made to, the
ProMiliik.§filik4ornan Catholic faith. FOr his own
,patt,itouriskfreeto cook's tint he did not value these
beterisitivery highly and in.this'ettim'ation 'of them
b*siiihtoitified by the 4f the 'ptesenillarl of
WOW,' Wito 'bad said.tipon. this subject..,." the
question of Catholic Emancipation be nor inadmissible
as a Constitutional question,lhettlyet no value on these
securities."' In point' of tact, the bht security inr the
establishment woald'reielt from'the Coticeiij' on. on the
broadest and fairest grounds, and in the mode most
calculated to give satisfaction to the. claimants of the
objects of their prayer. He contended that this would
be the best secti!ny.:and'thoitghs,,, hiniielf,' that Laity:
seep: ities Which could be of ace way Otii,cle,.ao4., .•
ate question. He shir:ld, however, be rein soiry ti/

do away with the grace or the favour
asked at the hands of 'Parliament ; and ever,
that in conferring a favour, as nolo
I imposed by the mode of conferring it ,
itself—(Hear, hear, hear.) To him it set
wise and dignified course, and that best
tranquillize the minds of the Raman C,
pity, would be to look for such security
and uniting together of all men, of all
lions whatever, in one common bond
and privileges.—(Hear, hear.)—We one
consider that numerous and deserving I
ai a portion of a great nation, of which
'fluid subjects, but as mere Sectaries, as
ing different interests, and proceeding
system from those of the great body of ,
first step then towards this security would
away from the 116 man Catholics all per
dis Satisfaction: Existing as they at present
had never been found wanting
.to the •
ceuntry--existing as'they at present eat
never withheld their just assistance from
it was, that neither had they withheld
appeals to their justice. And for
them; for if (in the language of their
in another place) they were capable of ends
'which .they at pretent laboured under
plaintt they would deserie indeed still
fiittien'Of those evils; but as long as they
constitutional' and le,iitimate means
Legislature for the redreailof, aud the
grievances, they could not want the syl
eulightened mind, and the aid of every
and benevolence in every religious ow,
criuntry—(Cheers.) He said, therefore.,
all cause of dissatisfaction. He would
next place, however, that such justice'
Roman Catholics *Wild' unlreppily
then; that' very, eifeutniisoct itould not
classes of the British couimunity •
one man and one urar....(Hear, het
R4,,min Catholics, if such a case were
thus.redoce themselves to a 'condition fi
subsequlent efforts cetdd ever relieve them,
of the whole Empire .vintild he against "
'be iooked upon this's° be a'Protestant
tholle question, or rather, perhaps, mi
than a Catholie question in its relation!
the State, the stability of pk)blie and pri
the' gensiral .condition .of society. Of
once the most vehement opposer of
concession, only two or three now 'sty
went; arid he could not helplookingo
They were Popish in the most, Popish
objected to Popery. that it was intolerrnt,
discriminating, and iricapabla of dor
portion of mankind beyond its own pal
lature' then repudiate this imputation,
present causes of complaint from that
they seemed to stand in fear. The coin
sion and disabilities was the only means
or eight millions of men could be kept'
as it were by common consent, andto
ing of being aggrieved and injured.
only means of potting down a G 4
somehow or other, had grown up in Iry
slued: to exist and to flourish in .spite -
all the powers of the two Houses of
extraordinary fact of its existence set
how easily mankind might be governed
'assembly organized in the teeth of the
with no degree of power, and yet in
oppose the measures of the English Gros
make three • millions of. Men. scattered s.
contuty, act in one way an xi at one nsoment,
man—(Hear, hear,).--This was, in deed,* dar
of things, one which ought never to haY
which it was impossible should with an;
Bot this mischief, with so many others,
and even protected by the folly. or the i
of successive administraticsai.i Welled
tive under these ditEcoltieil itleras gi
which ylid'not seem likeiY, iii
do; justice where it had been long
cheers). Nothing woulttdo sonnuch arthi
'towards the removal of all Cruses Q.
not only front the Cathaticjii
He should conclude, by expressing
datisfaction 'that he shoold. feet
were taken up. AS it wits' at :it timid_
• .
Uertunetit nee. He could not ferbear
Jaith, or rather the hope he cherished,
sanguine hope, that before the oext
menu some such measure of relief shi
by Such a quarter and since we
have at the head of Administration
Land
a sound judgment, rentarkal
and sifted_ With a strong mind and
and Our,. when once he saw his w;
'likely to be turned aside from his obj
=he felt assured that the time was not
hiss (Sir Francis Burdett's) hopes wool
The main question affected us in a pr
said to be peculiarly susceptible, viz.,
by the:removal of those subjects of per,
which now agitated the people of
would be saved to the country-0
hoped and trusted that it would never
tuoate lot to bring this question for
that it would be taken up by Goverm
time and the next Session—( Hear, hest
Mr. Secretary PEEL would not h.
hope
occasion but for the expression of
bop! which the Honourable Baronet
as entertaining in respect of the adopti
course by his s Government
Catholic Question. If he (Mr. Secrets,
his views upon that question,, his
the peculiar constitution of the preseni
Each individual of that Government
form and to act upon his own opinion
and for himself he could only refer
he had so repeatedly made in that HI
of this fact--4Cheers4 Zndoubtedls
that Government was at perfect libert
hot.forhisriself he did request that
in respect to it might be inferred from
Mr. F. BA RING considered that
,situation of the Irish Government,
attending the administration of the
protection of property. made the e:
by the Hon. Batonet one of much go
he seemed to anticipate.
Sir JOSEPH YORKE congratulat
the much improved tone which thi
assumed of late years, particularly
odium theologicum which used to be
Washes behind him by the late Dr. On
.ee). He confeSsed that he did n'
40ticipations which the Hon. Memo
had founded upon a recent speech of
Premier. The Noble Duke had sal
n the world could be more irregular
J. Yorte) to allude to a speech delivered 0)
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