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PARLIAMENTARr PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL, S.
Soveral Private and Local Billi Were brought •p front the
Commons, and read a first thee.
PLACES tN ItECERSTow.

The Order of the Day being moved,
The Earl of GROSVENOR rose, pnrstiant to no-
tice, to move the second reading of the Bill for pre.
venting the granting of Places its Reversion. He felt
that the present moment was not the most auspicious
for carrying that salutary measure into effect ; but he
was not therefore discouraged from endeavouring to
do his duty, and to redeem the pledge which he had
-given to that effect to the public. There were, be-
Sides, many circumstances connected with the present
Measure, which he could have wished to bring under
their Lordships' consideration at the same time; but
neither was the present the moment for entering into
that discussion. He should, however, persevere in
the line he had chalked out to himself, and persist in
Moving the second reading of the Bill, let the result
be what it might. He knew that it was the intention
of the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack to
oppose his motion, hut he trusted that Noble and
Learned Lord would not forget that in proposing the
suspension of the same Bill last Session, he had in a
great degree acknowledged the justice of its princi-
ple. Their Lordships well knew that the measure
which he had the honour of proposing, originated with
the Finance Committee of the other House : a Com-
mittee to which the people at large looked up with
ccnfidence for many, salutary regulations in the ex-
penditure of the country ; acv although their patriotic
endeavours had not met with the success they de-
served (for many difficulties and di?cotiragements
had been thrown in their way, perhaps even by those
who should rather have promoted, than obstructed
the measure), still that Committee had deserved the
thanks, and obtained the highest approbation of the
people. This it was no more than justice and can-
dour to avow. He should not betray their intention
nor their labours ; and when a more favourable time
arrived, as arrive he trusted it would, be should again
bring forward a measure which the public had such
just reason to expect would be adopted. The Noble
Earl concluded with moving, The second reading of
the Bill.
The LORD CHANCELLOR never had, and•
never would say that the principle of the Bill was not
a good one, and fit to be acted upon ; but he ob-
jected to it as attempting at the time to carry only
one part, and that comparatively but a less important
and less urgent part, of a great measure with which
the present was but slightly connected. If the power
of granting places in reversion were taken from the
Crown, he was at a loss to see why places in posses-
sion nt:ght not be taken away also. This power had
been vested in the Crown for three, four, or five
centuries ; and had often been exercised for the best
of purposes : he was not, therefore, for withdrawing
from the Crown, without being sure that such a de-
falcation from the power of the Crown would lead to
some general measure of great public utility. Be-
sides, in consequence of the provisions which Parlia-
ment had thought proper to introduce into the Re-
' gency Bill, the power of granting place's in reversion
was now in abeyance. To agitate the question, there-
fore, tinder the present circumstances, would not, in
his opinion, lead to any practical good.
The Earl of GROSVENOR briefly replied ; and
the question being put, that the Bill he read a second
time, it was negatived without a division.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL then Sioved,That the
Bill be rejected.
Earl GREY thought that would be going too far,
and in direct opposition to the principle of the Bill,
and to the expectations of the public. His idea would
lead him rather to consider it as more proper to
move, That the Bill be read a second time that day
six months.
Lord LIVERPOOL could not but think,
.that
is
tconsequence of the restrictions now imposed upon
that power, in the hands of the Prince Regent, the
Bill should for the present be rejected. He had no
objection, however, in acceding to the opinion of the
Noble Earl.
It was then moved, That the Bill be read a second
time that day six months ; which amendment was
agreed to.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL then presented the
Militia Inlistment Bill ; which was ordered to be
printed, together with the other documents connected
with it, which had been moved for. The bill woe
inuld
e printed by Monday ; on which day the p.
ciple of it might be discussed, on the motion for going
into the Committee. It was his wish that the bill be
sow read a second time.
Lord ROSSLYN renewed his former objections to
the second reading of the bill, until aU the informa-
ticn requisite to the right understanding of it was be.
fore the House. He likewise lamented that no ropy,
as in the other House of Parliament, was kept of pa-
pers and bills laid before that House, but that the
original was sent to the press, and the House left in
the interim without any record to refer to.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL admitte that, with
respect to some papers, some inconvend ienee might
arise from that circumstance, and that perhaps it
might be better to adopt in that respect the practice
of the other House.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE suggested the
propriety of referring the matter to a Committee.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL acquiesced in the sug-
gestion ; but thought it better to consider of the mat-
ter for a few days, and then to propose the adoption
of some measure.
The bill was then read a second time, and ordered
to be committed on MondAy.
DISSENTING MEETING 1101,311.
Some of the papers respecting the nuraPer of Dis-
senting Meeting Houses were laid on the table, and
ordered to be printed.
DISTILLERIES.
Lord HARDWICIE moved for an account, to
the latest date it could be made up for the present
year, slf the quantity of Brown and Muscovado Su-
gar need in the distilleries. Also an aseount of the
quantity of Spirits imported from Ireland since the
let JAMMU, 1809. Ordered.—Adjourned.