Star.
London, England, 1821-02-21 00:00:00

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pier' theeontrOol OF Vie deicr Alth than of Lord
or get Sriincis.,.. To- prevent a dial-
Gs"rn •"I • • of • art.:sr
a sing') air mu* •provutg !, sty.-
Ana or the SherifF wtaiei4ertaililYt:kregulai,
Ise
'" might ban bben hisitaentiOns. If a divi-
whatever
fo, on Id ao t hit e't4en place in.the room, it could
azi bog taken . place. (Kg of ,doors. He should
let the motion. •
• a. WILBRAHAM was against the proposed
evioiry, and thought the precedent quoted by the
grin. Member, from the times of Charles 11. and in
ehe case of Judge Jeffreys, was not entitled to much
te~d The Hon. Member then cited the authority
.•7131acksione, to prove that the Sheriff was only
u ,H
sesalde to theopse of Commons, .its matters re-
lating ta elections of Knights of the Shire. He (Mr.
wobraham) was not aware why the Amendment
3hasjd be put before tine original Address.
lln cURWEN said, that the existence of the
!tool depended on the right of Petitioning, and on
the consequent connection of the House with the
people, If this were a motion far censure en the
sneriff, he should he inclined to hesitate ; but the
incnion was only for inquiry, and if an error in judg-
ment only appeared, the Howe would act with its
accustomed lenity.
Mr. W. WYNN said, that no case had been made
out against the Sheriff. The practice of summoning.
theinhabitants was °Hate date, and formerly unknown.
Leith respect to the mode of putting the question at
-Public Meetings, he was not aware that it was im-•
per--au 're on them to follow the forms of that House.
The mode in which the question had been put, suffi-
ciently ascertained the sense of the Meeting. At
County Meetings a division, from the number, was,
in a great measure, impossible. At the Meeting at
Chester the number present was 4,000, and it would
have been no easy matter to have divided such a
somber in a November day. The Sheriff had exer-
cised no more than a legal discretion, and he must
oppose the motion.
Lord BELGRAVE said, that as there had been
many ccunter-statements relative to what had taken
place at the Meeting, it was desirable that there
should be an impartial Committee. He must state,
Oat the Sheriff said, that he would take it upon him-
id not to put the amendment. It was unpleasant to
fm to have to complain of the conduct of Gentle-
sen wits whom he was in the habits of friendship ;
blithe trusted that such scenes would never disgrace
tic county again. Me Address was, in fact, a Po-
tion for a redress of grievances; and that had been
suctioned by the practice of 1680. A statement of
.gievances was not more incompatible with the object
tithe Meeting than the introduction of complaints of
blasphemy and sedition—(Hear, hear).—.7ll.l the 9th
I Edward the Second, Sheriffs were chosen by the
People; and Anne, Countess of Pembroke, sat on the
Bud as Sheriff. That might not appear a° Wang.
n foreigners, as hi had been asked, the other day,
the House ofLords, if the Bishops were not Peeresses
their own right!—(A laugh). 1
hIr:WARRE c•aild have wished the motion had'
ben directed at those Sheriffs who had refused to
oil Meetings altogether. It appeared to him, that
the Sheriff had only erred in a point of form.
Lord CASTLEREAGH thought no casehad been
made out against the Sheriff, whose letter spoke the
feelings of an ingenuous mind. Much inconvenience
valid arise, if the case should be brought.before the
House, to clear upa doubt as to a point of form, for
of the intention of the Sheriff there could be no doubt.
Ile House had no right to promulgate the law with
respect to the office of Sheriff, except in cases of elecs
tica It the House was to interfere with one class of
I. stings, upon the same principle they might inter-
feessith all. If Sheriffs were to be punished for every
nntentional mistake, there would be a great reluc-
tree on the part of Sheriffs to call public Meetings.
Mr. P. NIOORE was of opinion, that a Committee
bold be appointed, in consequence of the contra-
ion, statements that had gone abroad. The more
opectable the Sheriff, the more need there was for
spiry. The case peculiarly called for the appoint-
ee of a Committee.
lir. CR EEVEY, in reply, observed, that if Sheriffs
sed the powers claimed by the Sheriff of Che-
, all County Meetings must be nugatory. He
no vindictive feeling, and acted from publi.e
)1e only.
House then divided—For the motion, 65
it, 122.

OLD STORES.
GRENFELL, after a few prefatory observa-
for an account of all Naval Old Stores
order of the Navy Board, by private contact,
ise than by public sale, from 1815 to 1820,
ith the names of the buyers, the dates, and
, respective contracts, and other particu-
connected with the transactions.

R. WARD did not rise to oppose themotion,l
to substitute a qualifying amendment. In the
:e Department the sales had been so large,
it necessarily required a long time before the
- could dispose of the different articles. It bad,
, been stipulated at the time, that in certain
the terms of the contracts should not be dis-
till after a certain period had elapsed. As he
that the Honourable Gentleman intended
ze a similar motion respecting the sale of Ord-
Stores, he had stated under-what limitation he
assent to it.
MARTIN stated, that considerable diflicul•

been experience) in disposing-of old naval
, and the Navy Board had at last found it the
advantageous mode to dispose of them by pri-
contract.
r.GRENFELL would not urge a breach of public
.; but could not approve of the concealment.
Mr. WARD stated, that the particular stipulation
from peculiar circumstances, and would
place again.
relative to the sale of Naval Stores was
; as also a similar motion on the subject
;totes, except in certain cases, in which
. of the terms had been stipulated.
In answer to a question from Alderman Woo*, it
by Mr. WARD, that the terms of Roths-

contract would be made known in -August
and in answer to a question from Mr. GRIN-
-4 was stated, that the contract had teen made
lcttet'•_fie then moved for the average balances
money in the hands of the Hank of England
be Par 1820; and also for the amount of Bank
And Lank Post Bills, and of Exchequer Bills
lin the Exchinuer sate IBM

.t of a Committee.
11r. CREEVEY, it
!messed the powers
all County Me
no vindictive fe
nciple only.
The !louse then
inst it, l'2".
Mr. GRENFF.LL,
moved for an
'il by order of the Is
otherwise than by
with the nal
rms of the respecti
s connected with t
Mr. R. WARD di
to substitute a
.nance Departme
it necessarily r,
lets could dispose
fore, been stipu
the terms of
ssed till after a cei
- stood that the
make a similar m
• e Stores, he hac
Id assent to it.
Sl. B. MARTIN
had been experi,
and the Nay
advantageous I
contract.
Iir•GRENFELL
; but could not
.Mr. WARD state
arisen from pec
take place again
The motion relatt'
agreed to ; as al
Ordnance Stores,
ment of the t
answer to a qu
~ltated by Mr. V
i* contract wet
ti
; dnd in answer
ILL' it *is stated,
• fetter _Re then
Public money in t 1
the Par 1820 ; ai
et, Find ll.tulr Pc
• . iced in the Els