Star.
London, England, 1817-05-24 00:00:00

STATE OI THE COUNTRY.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved that the Hy .ms
do adjourn till this day se'iiiiight (Ft ida) reftto antl
stated that Lc should probably ...fitas day him,:
down a communication nom the Prince Regetit
tt-
specting the State•of the C‘iiintry, its which case, he
should on the sante day niove fur the festival ut the
Committee which sat in the early part of the Sewcn.

Earl GRLY sale], he did nut rm's) to oppose tl.e
-adjournment; but he had heard with segiet—lte
aright say, with a feeling almost amounting to
epair—o hat the Noble .E4ll had stated woo treed
to the intended ccronitioication hum the
gent, and the revival of the Comstitt;e. etiiisol,:-
ing•that since the P.:open:ion of toe Habeas Ctior,r
Act, the utmot.. tranquillity had prevailed
the people, notwithstanJing the distress that tithe. s.
ted, and which, he W.:S very wiry to sap qv:n.l
to be rather increasing than dims! ishoig ; n: •
withstanding all the privations to which they west
unhappily subjected, they had evinced ..n
uuerata-
pled patience under their suffertogs ; considering alio
that the persons as rested under the puweis e.vcit
the Suspension Bill had proved to be prooi.s w t!
lower ranks of life, with little or nu itirltience—wita
no means at their command to render tin its dative
I.ous to the Government—v: any character it
station that could render them at all formidable—
he had hoped that the people of England might now
be trusted with the blessings of their Ccuttautiv.
and that it would not be thought necessary again t:+suspend the exercise of their privi'.eges. It was there-
' fore with poignant regret that lie bad now beard iron
the Noble Earl an intimation of the intention which
he had announced—the more so, :is it was knora,
that if the Noble Earl proposed the revival of die
Committee, it would be revivcd, and that if he after-
wards proposed the renewal of the Suspension of hie
Habeas Corpus, it would be agreed to. Contrary
also to the constant practice of the If arse, the Noble
Earl had given notice, that on the same day on which
be brought doivn the intended Message, lie shorn.'
move the revival of the Committees Could not 1/11:
I day be given for the consideration of the Message be-
foie the revival of the Can:Lime ivas preposed
Could not the proposition for the revival 01 the Ces•
roittee be postponed meldy till the nt:a sitting :•14!
of the House,' to give a short interval for the cr.r.;,.
deration of the Message Ile did not now mean t,
eider into a discussion upon the subject ; but he coll.
not help observing, that the renewal of the Soper-
skin of the I-Lsileas Corpus, instead of alleviating!
would only greatly aggravate the evil. Let theist •
pie have the full enjoyment of the privileges of
Constitution, and they would know how to feel gni
appreciate their independence. Those privileges:: •
hitherto borne them triumphantly through every
ficulty, and would again raise them above ti:e
tresses of their present situation, by giving t!-.err t.:
feeling of freedom which was the best
the Government. These privileges
the best support of the Government, solier
joyed by the country, leading it, as they ;.!iesrt ••• -
done, to the path of honour, and glory, ant! Ter:
He should not now say more, except regpst.-7
hope that the Committee would very carts-
and Weigh the evidence which came bef-Jre dart. ••
order that their Report might not, as in tf:e (cry-
instance, be impeached, on the ground of an .
ous statement, the fallacy of which was orscret, . • --
proved at the bar.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL.—le Mr Lore:- v
out meaning to create a discussion on the pts.e.r.: •-•
casion, I beg to say, in explanation, that !Lie 1.71,
conduct which his Majesty's Ministers have aslor--:
ought .not.to be objected to. The usual cons.-
when a communication is to be made from the Crc:i
to have it brought in without any previous vt

:In *n 111,1 Vi ;t t e taken into tonsideratlon the
hear.) The course pursued'on this
tent, mai a notice of a week is given,
qiight he had for considering it.
• t she late Committee, I beg leave to
1, it ii,n, that Item all which has come to
:;.iiwle.fge of his Majesty's Ministers since then,
•lii ilthat Report has bees more and pore
xri I .1'
Eari.tlit.EY.ll My Lords, what I have just said
to x.sit .ordships of the accuracy of the late Repoli
b .;:tia to repeat, and T have no doubt that it
ma) prnved, as has already been offered, at your
L, •...;,,' bar; and it should be recollected, th,,t
„, 1. i:.;ships have refused such an offer. It is true,
1,, Ni;ble Earl has said, that a notice of a week
!I:. 5.0 given that some communication is to be
je, b'tt of what nature it is to be, your Lordships
•411 ignorance—(!leer, icar, hear.) There is
▪ .t': y material reason why I should not wish yolr
L 72i:ips hastily to mess any measures of sett:toy
:rah of tin se individuals who have been iodic-
high tieasnii are about to commence in a vrry
t!:': firm.. No doubt, the result of them will be to
,•av considerable light cm the minim of that disor-
de,. upon the supposed continuance ut which the pre-
sr.-I me i.eres are ii,!ended to be founded. This
h ive considerable effect, as it would enable
Committee to take a mr-re correct
1";,:tO whatever evidence may be submitted to
e,tfor. For this purpose, I should wish, that even if
the Committee is to be appointed, time may be given
blurt they commence their examiaciuns, to know
the na:tire -1 the evidence which will he adduced on
ete int.s.!'
rhc rinestion was then pmt and carried, and their
L'edJiips adjourned till next Friday.
HOME OF COMMONr.
The itcuer baviee at •read, d in th- Holum. of I Ai/At, the Pipeaker
eet•il that the Royal A.tril! had been Eivril by COMMISall)11 to
err.l puhhe MA private Jitlls. •
U, the motion of Mr. MARIIVAT, a Return was ordered of
~urus experderl ut,der the :let for prolnhiting the Stave Trade.
liene:al HORNTLIN gave notice or a motion, in the next
hale at the CI-ray Residence Bill, wi.h respect to the resideuce
of mipertikary Comte,.
the SFr AKER obfei ved, that it was competent to the gallant
ii-•••ral to give any notice that he thouslit proper; but that it
Iti• the custom to give uutice of the proposition of any
::::evietmeat in a bill, unless such amendment was not within
the purview of that hill, which happened not to be the cue in
tlibt:UlCe.
Mr. sheriff Bev noes piece- ted a Petition from the Lard
M.yor, Aide linen, and Common entanCll sit London, complain-
ing oldie detective: state of the Bankrupt Laws, as well as o. the
in.ieriate place fur the transaction of liankrup, busineiii In
1 undun,atel praying for Mich—Ordered to lie eta the table.
lee Greenwich Coal UM sea, react a third time and posed
SAVING BANKss
'tr. ROSE moved that the Saving Banks' Bill be read a third
ti-t, On which a lone conversation arose, ebledy on the cause
u. aitow persons to ay.,il thems.av s of 1,3 rochla I aid, Fhould e hey
Although Ohl :he have at the time money in the
ILek, tor Savings tint uticet:eling be: amount of ae3it each, a
voter, however, be dig ve.n.l in the ALietstret3 to withhuitl the
patch relict, should the eacumstancts of the case jutttly such a
pocei.ding.
Mr. t JAMMER SLEY particularly objected to this portion ot
the bill, as it was so complete a des ot.on from doe principle of
the Poor Laws. It wet. a much gra e.:ef and a mere objectionable
ter Acton from that pruiciple than had ever yet been attem; ted.
'the alteration went to remove what little objection riesiseintel
in the breasts of the poorer closes of society to receive parochial
Mich With this exception, •-e bad no ohjectson to the Bill; if
It were withow such provision be_ahould deem at calculated to
accomp:ish the desirable object of premeds% a mere thrifty teel-
e. the poor.
OIL ROA had held a consultation with many country Gen-
demi ian this part et the Bill, and they ad agreed in the neces-
sit, of retaimnB the regulation.
Lord MIL lON said, agricultural labourers, without such regu-
lations being a law,kied t tam ferret, their. saviegs to these Hanks.
Sir CHARI.Ls MONL.K airungly opposed the Clause, as he
taald not see any eecessity tar all the over-zeal evinced in this
;soon of the LM in Ytattictilar ; it was indeed undertaking to
swage that which, if lift alone, would manage itself. Ihe ope.
owe of the Bill weed were a great injustice in scotland.
General I'HORN i Ole trusted, as there was so much opposi-
tion to the Bela, that the Right Hon. Gentleman would withdraw
r.; and that, it a bill Were still deemed necessary. one less objec-
tatoble might be brought forward lieu brown. In the culla •
it j there was much dislike of the Bill in its present shape. He
lid received a very sensible letter on this t;uhj.ct trout a Ma.
rater of the Norwich Bank for Savings; the writer concluded
with saying, having observed on there being no necessity for the
fell, "1 believe it is taut usual fur Parliament to interfere tins
slied—u trot, such is the opinion of wiser heads thau Mule 17
--(d1 it Bel
Mr. PKII I H.EROE was friendly to the Bill in its present
him, deeming the measure calculated to promote independence
of spirit among the pour.
Mr. F. LEWIS coucurred in the objection to the principle of
the these which had been complained of, for ft recognized, for
tieing time,that those who might possess property (in the saving
Batiks) should, nevertheless, be entitled to parochial relief. It
N.; our that there was a limit to such indulgence, the sum of
£3o being named; and he was willing to cun.prunner has uppo
SUN, as he thought the measure was calculated to produce great
',..enefit. tie approved of the measure, became its tendency was
'Ailuckluce a habit of thriftiness and industry. The tune would
c4rile, he had no doubt, when the Poor Laws must be put an
" to, and he was therefore anxious that some inducement
Kull be held out to the labonous to take care of what they
• Aft snit of their earnings.
:Ake soi having been read a third time,
Mr. WES LEAN moved the omission of the clause allowing
prone to be benefited by the poor rates, notwithstanding they
upbt have money iu the saving Banks.
Mr. supported this opposition, declaring that the
tkose for the first time pronounced that it was no disgrace to re-
tete parochial relief.
Mr. CUR WAN said the clause could do no good, but was cal-
telated to be of very iajurious operation.
Mr. CoURIANAY beetle; also opposed the clause,
Mr. RUSE maintained, that if the clause were rejected, it
**'.old prevent many from placing their savings in these Banks,
altl the general elect of the Bill was to produce a habit of saving
among the poor.
31r,'1.SNlY I'H supported the clause.
Alter observations from Mr. W ILB YOICE, Mr. CALCR AFT,
Cclunti Woon, and Sir C. Mo PICK, the House divided—furthe
Luse 60—Against it 57—Majority tor the Clause 33.
Abe bill strum terwards passed and sent to the Lords.
entlitiT CHU UCH BURYING-GROUND BILL.
Mr. HOME SUMNER moved the third reading
of the Ciiristchurch Burying Ground Bill.
Sir CHARLES MONCIi. declared, that he never
knew a case of greater injustice than was attempted
by this measure. It was brought forward in a clan.
dt,tine mariner in the parish, and pressed against the
etriessed opinion of a decided majority of the pa.l
rieitanert who paid poor's rates. But no regulat
had been given of this Bill, pursuant to the
Orders of the House. Yet with all this Irregularity
Me House was called upon to assent to a propound
*Lice had in view a tax of £QUO upon the inhiab-
tots al Christchurch for an unnecessary purpose, a
tee burying ground of that parish was quite suflicie
to answer tor several yea's. The Honourable li..
tenet concluded with moving, that the Bill should be
:cad a third time this day six months.
Mr. 1-iOME SUMNER. maintained that the oisjec
t. the Bilk *as indispensibly necessary,' as thtee wa
‘:.17 space for tbirty4ltree graves cal the prezxnt im

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!tying-ground. The House would then, he had no
doubt, tee the propriety of enlarging the buoing-
ground of this populous parish, and that was solely
be purpose of the Bill.

Sir JOSEPH YORKE said, that having been a
Member or the Committee upon this Bill, he could
state shortly that which must satisfy the House of the
necessity of the measure. The church-yard was, it
appeired, torn evitiencb before the Committee, only
MU feet square, 80 feet of which were occupied by
the church. The population of the parish amounted
to 11,000, and the annual average of deaths was
equal to 250. Therefore, in consequence of the li-
mated extent of the burying-ground, it often hap-
pened that a dead b.)dy remained some time ablve
ground before the Sexton could poke out an anchor-
age for it—(4 laugh, and Afar.) Nay, it was fre-
quently the case to 'have three bodies in the same
grave, one in the loner, another in tl'e middle, and
the third upon the upper deck ; and the Saxton was
obliged often to make a corpse wait whilst he went
'poking and probing about the church-yard with an
auger to ascertain some birth in which the corpse
might and sale anchorage--( Laughing art ! 12ear.)
Alta a few words from S. THORNTON, the House I
divided—For the Amendment 9—Against it 102—
Majority 93. The Bill was read a3d time and passed.]