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London, England, 1817-05-07 00:00:00

however,. had bremiery tkiumphantly answered by his
Honourably and' Letrued Friend (Mr. Brougham).
He thought the Noble Lord had great reason to be
obliged to the Right Hon. Gentleman. The Noble
Lord is put upon his trial, for having given away a
certain sum of the public money. He makes a speech
in his justification; but then comes the Right Hon.
Gentleman, woo says it was he, as receiver, not the
Noble Lord. as giver, whose conduct was at issue.
The Right Hon. Gentleman had given, for the £3OOO
which he received for plate, his speech of that night,
which, to the Noble Lord, was perhaps worth the,
price. He did not impute peculation—(Hear, hear.)
The Right Honourable Gentleman was incapable of
Hear, hear.) And there was no country in the
world where public men were less capable of pecula-
tion than this. But still he must condemn the trans-
action as a wanton waste of the public money. The
Noble Lord and the Right Honourable Gentleman
seemed to be respectively varying their durations, in
relation to each other. The Noble Lord was sink-
ing below the Right Honourable Gentleman, and
the Right Honourable Gentleman rising above the
Noble LorJ ; so that they wou:d ...non discover each
other in !hem old situations—( laugh.) He niust
say again, that, without any penloll/1 reeling on the
suklect, he slit old support act Resolution front a
sense of Ms public duty.
Mr. LYT UL ETON rose amidst a general cry of
ti Qoestiou," and said he should say but very few
w ,rJs to expiain the grounds of his vote upon
question atLcing individual character. He con-
stymred tat, appointment as unnecessary, and the
transaction, ft.. ni the relation between the Noble Lord
and the Right Hon. Gentleman, as censurable in the
estr:me; be therefore voted for the Resolutions.
Mr. J. MACKINTOSH differed from his Right
Hon. Friend in his view of the question. He sup-
ported the motion because it did not convey any cen-
sure upon the Right lion. Gentleman, but only upon
the Noble Lord who had made the appointment. He
imputed a UlllieCCbSitry eXiellie to the Right Hon.
Gentleman.

Mr. CANNING rose to set the House right upon
two facts. It was said by a Right Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Tierney), and an Hon. and Learned Gentle.
man, that if there had been a vacancy for him in the
Cabinet, the Embassy to Lisbon would never have'
1)::eo thought of. Now lie could satisfy any Gentle.
man by private evidence, nut fit to be stated by him
in his place, that no offer, no vacancy in the Cabinet,
woulJ have tempted him to ri nriin in this country at
the time. The second fact was this, that the Form.
gt:ese Ambassador s..id, the day before his departure,
that there was co account of the intended trturn of
the Prirce from the Brazils. He would not take
upon himself to question the assertion of Count Fun-
chal, l.ut he should only inform the House, that the
C tr.t Lad given Sit J. Beresfurcl a list of persons who
were to embark %illll the Prince—(!Wait., hear).
Mr. I'IERNEY said, his observation was, that
if there was a place vacant which would have secur-
ed the support of the Right Honourable Gentleman,
the Embassy to Liskun would not have beat thought
of— ( Mar, hear).
Mr. CARTVs'RIGHT adverted to the word
" peculation," which had been used by an Honour.
Ilatonet with reference to the Right honourable
Gentleman's conduct; and expressed his hope, after
the satiLtactory explanation which had been.afforded
by the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Hun. Baronet
wcrald retract that expression.
Sir FRANCIS LURDETT said, that he had not
ur.ed the word " peculation" in its'common Mist,
but that he meant to designate the transaction in
which the Right Hon. Gentleman had been engaged,
to be that n hich Le still co..s.e.eri.si it to b. —a poltti.

cal pecuniary lob.
Sir T. ACKLAND maintained, that the Right
Hon. Gentleman's character stood lice trc rn nii im-
-putation. Tne detente made by the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman must have thrilled the feelings of every ram
in the House. Had he (Sir T. Ackland) the talent
( which Ile was not so vain as to suppose) he wruld
• have been prciud to have acted ai the Right. Hon.
Gentleman had done, :•nd to h.ve so delenden his
conduct. _ _ _ _ _

Mr. LAMB EON in reply. observed, that the Pre-
sident of the B.ord of Contioul bad totilly tssiuce-
Ptesented him in saying that he had dwelt on ti.e
quarrel between hitw and the Noble Lord. lie 114
donano such thing, and he entirely disclaimed what
bad been said by his Right Honourable Friend and
die Honourable Baronet on that subject. He had
carelully avoided every thing in the nature of a per-
usal attack, in the observations which he had :liought
it his dory to submit to the consideration of the House.
It was the improper nature of the appointment. and
not the acceptance •of it by the Right Honourable
Gentleman, which be condemned. The Noble Lord,
and other of his Honourable Friends, were mistaken
m the view they bad taken of the resolution. Ihe
object of the resolution was notto condemn the Right
Honourable Gentleman, but to declare that the ap-
pointment imposed an unnecessary expense on the
country. As thy question bad been so fully discus.
Bed. he should not detain the House with any tar.
thee üb•ervations.

The Hosea then divided, when there appeared—
For the previous traded, t7o—Apintt it M.
- Majority against the Iterolotions 174.
The ether Orden of tlie.DaT were thou diepmed 34 and the
Hoes* adjourned at Half 141weive.
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the State Prisoners in the Gaol of Reading, though
they were hi the constant habit of visiting that gaol,
they addressed Queries lo the Secretary of State
tor the Home Department on the rubject, and re-
ceived Answers. The following' is a copy of the
Queries mid Answers t
! Corr.—The Visitini Magistrates of Reading Gaol
wish be Answers to the undermentioned Questions,
from the 'tight Honourable the Secretary of State :
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• oeffisped to do, and set quineons, and enter into conversation
=sem P—A. No, except upon special reasons being assigned.
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