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London, England, 1828-02-19 00:00:00

'Friehd, add of the opinions generally enteittdoed of kW-.
there ivai.nd Man mori• liktely to reflect credit. of the.
Committee, and to Ore general satisfaction tb the
country—(Hear, hear.) It was naturally to be etpecttd
that-the Right Hon: Gentlemen (Mr. Herries) would
)rase declared what his objectibni were; whether they
were of a pr rsonal nature, which could not be well sup-
posed, or turned upon his idea of the unfitness of Lord
Althorp to fill that important hi:nation.' As Lord Gu-
derch, in another place, has explained the time mitances
connected with this differeoce, he should beg leave to
present them *to the House in that shape in Which they
had come b fore the pubic.
„" The application, as far as I understand, was to ascertain if
that individual would have any indisposition to undertake the task.
should the Government propose hint for that purpose. That pro
position was, I again repeat, made nto.l certainly without my
knowledge, or, as I afterwards scorned, the knowledge of the
Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Herries) whose official situation in the
Administration more immediately connected hint with the eonsi-

deratiuu of financial subjects. list I ought to add, that From sub-
+equeat explana;ions which were I;iyen to me, I under+tood tha•
the application was nut made witted thing,"or.in such
manner as fixedly:So pledge the Clutreretnent and bind th-ts
o the appointmeut. When I, however, I dined t: a this (0/31.
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municatioti bad been made, the resuit of which has proved to
myself individually anything hut sazittfactory, I naturally in
quirrd, bad any previous communication been nride to tht.
Chancellor of the Exchequer upon the matter; and then, fn. the
first time, I beard that there bad not been any. I instantly I.
mented that such had been the bet, but of course imputed it to
mere oversight, and •expressed a hope that it was one 9f those on
fortunate accidents which would not go beyond our own official
circle, and could not give rise to any eventual difficulties amongst
us. My Right Hon. Friend (*e believe Mr. Hitskiison) undertook
to explain fully and satisitetotily to the Chancellor of the Exchequer
what had been dune. I wish to guard myself against the slightest
idei that I was hostile to the appointment of the individual who
was in this manner nominated to the Chair of the Finance• Con-

nyttee, and was only anxious that the mode and circumstances of

the comatunicatten with him should be clearly explained and re-
lieved front any inisunderst.nilir.g ; and with this view I commu-
nicated with my Right lion. Friend (Mr. lierries) in the most cull-
ctliatory manner upon the subject. It did, however, Aril happen,
that on the next day my Right Hon. Friend informed me that he

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had very strong objections to the course which had been taken.—
He stated, as I understood him, that his objections referred more
to the circumstance of the nomination having been made with-
out his having been consulted, than to the material proposition
itself, and that, so placed, he could not accede to it. Various-ex-
planations followed, as I have been informed, some of them by
letters, between my two Right Hon. Friends (Mr. Iluskisson and
Mr. Herries); and I, who never saw 'leis correspondence, was In
hopes for a time that it had been perfectly satisfactory to all the
parties concerned in it. Indeed, my Right Honourable Friend
( Mr. Ifuskisson, we believe) thought at the moment his explana-
tions had been so entirely satisfactory, that he never mentioned
the terms of the correspondence to me. I was led therefore to con.
sider Slut the explanations had terminated in a manner perfectly
satisfactory to all parties; I had no reason whatever to believe
that any such difference remained unadjusted as would lead any
individual of the Government to quit his post in consequence of it.
I was not in any way led to think at the time that if this appoint-
ment were persisted in, either of my Right Hon. Friends would
have felt it impossible to remain any longer in the Administration.
This business, I ought to say, took place at the end of November
ai.d beginning of Ikcember, and it was not until the 25.1 of De-
cember that I received a letter from my Right Hon. Friend ( Mr.
Harries), announcing that if the appointment of Chairman of the
Finance Committee were persisted in, it would be impossible fur
hint to remain any longer a klemb.r of the Government. He first
stated to me his objection to the mode in which the matter had
been discussed without his concurrence, and he next described
(through misinformation) that this negociation had been promoted,
settled, and concluded with my formal sanction, and without his
knowledge. He then proceeded to state his objections, on public
grounds, to the pal ticular nomination ; ?ltd he concluded by post.
direly informing me, that under these circumstances he felt it his
.duty,on pi inciple, to place his office of Chancellor of the Exchequer
at my disposal, if it was any convenience to me to accept his re.ir
nation and pin any other person in his plaCe."
The NOb:e Lord (Goderich) then prikeeded tossy he
found it impossible to teconcile the two Right Hon.
Gentlemen on this point. From this statement of the
Noble Lord, he (Lord Normanby) could only say, that
the objections of the Right Hon. urable Gentleman (.Ir.
Herries) did not rest upon public grounds. According
to Lord Goderich, they would appear to have arisen
more from a supposed slight than from any other cause.
If this were the case, one would suppose that the objec.
tioni might have been easily removed by etplanation.
Had they rested on public grounds, the matter would
have 'been. more difficult. The impression on the mind
of Lord Goderich `seemed to hate been, that all objec-
tions had been done away wi.b. It was Lord Goderich
who introduced Mr. Herries into the Government.—
The thing was of the highest importance as regarding
the exigence of that Government ; and Lord Gederich
seemed at one time to have thought that the explana-
ti.n given was satisfactory. All he (Lord Normanby)
wished fur was to have some light thrown on those
ti ansaCtimis. He would not attempt to offer any opi:
',ion or his awn. One t bservation, however, he must
Make: When the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Hus-
kisson) entered at Liverpool into in explanation of his
conduct and the principles on which be had joined the
present Administration, it did appear rather extraor-
dinary that he should have orratted all mention of this
quarrel which %, as stated hy :Ltd .Goderich to have
been the immediate-c ,use of the dissolution of his Go-
vernment. It the difference 'had been so trifling as to
allow the two Right Hon. Gentlemen so soon alter to
act roge her, he could not con preleod the extraori.li
non sequitur of Lord Godeii.l4 that nothing rem ined
ti .t Into bat to tender his resignation. He should n..w
Come to the far more important p int, the principles on
which the present Governm-rat came together—(Hear,.
hear !) It did appear,to liim,When first, it was formed, that
the materials of whiih it was composed gave indication
of some sacrifice, on tt e part- of the Right Hob. Gentle-
Man (Mr. Haskisson). He was 'very desirous, therefore,.
that the Right Hon. Gentleman should have some op-
portunity kr explanation. That opportunity was given
at Liverpool, and
.I.e reed with very sincere pleasure the
•peech of the Right Hon:tent..He should rat t now enter
into the question of any expressed or supposed condi-
tions between the Right lion Gentleman arid his late
colleagues. If such ever existed he bad no knowledge
of them, nor had he consulted any person upon the sub
ject. He always looked, uiion the services of that Rt.
Hon Gentleman as a
.sonrce4 great. public benefit.—
He considered hitis'aisione' ,
tiie first of practical re
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formers,, and in that. view, epos person of ,thiliigliest
importance to-the country; one reformer in place being
.so much mile valuable thin any number out of.place,
AS they must always, when not supported by the re
sources of Government, form but an insignificant hew!,
in a nttrority. The triumph of his principles afforded:
him the most sincere pleasure, and he read, with
tvt-
mixed satisfaction, the announcement of that triumph.
in the speech delivered. at Liverpool by
the Bight Hon.
Gentleman. He read .the reports of it *the London
newspapers, and thiry seethed -to him co kW: internal
evidenceof accuracy.. • Triat evidence was bonded on
the sentiments he was Iliadic) hare
giee.s expression to,-
for they were the same Which he was known to enter.:
tain, and which he had ably advocated upon many' pre-'