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until theNAct passed. It was therefore perfectly'
late that nia.moaey, either in the shape of a tax or
• voltintary contribution, could be granted except
by an .Act of Parliament; but in cases of supply,-
the practice. of Parliament was to be very liberal.—
Nothing was more common than to grant, for spe-
cific services, sums from money alreadfvoted. So
Much had this been the case, that the general prac-
tice was, to grant about one half of the supplies
under the authority of Resolutions of the House of
Commons. With regard to the Resolution moved
by the great Mr. Fox, in 1784, their Lordships must
be aware, that the House of Commons had a parti-
cular view in adopting it. It was supposed to be
the intention of Government to dissolve Parliament, •
and it was the V, ish of A great majority of the House
of Commons to prevent that event from taking place.
'ith that view they passed the Resolution which had
been referred to, making persons oho advised the,
application of money-, or who might be concerned
in applying it after a prorogation or dissolution,
guilty of a high crime and misdemeanour. But this
made against the Noble Earl's argument. Did he
not see that the Resolution anticipated the granting
of money ? If it had not passed, money would Lave
been granted in the usual way. It therefore she'.ved
in the strongest manner, what the understanding, as
to the usual Parliamentary course was. It was cer-
t.iinly, as the Noble Earl had stated, the practice to
bring in during the Session, an Act of Appropria-
tion. But if the doctrine which he (Lord Lauder-
dale) bad laid down were true, the law applied to
what had been granted in former Se,sions as much
as it did to the grants of the pi e:-ent, and pat ticularlv
to the grants which had taken place previously to
the dissolutions of ISOI and 1607. In all cases
which there had been grants previous to a dist°.
lotion, the application came under the consideration
vf the mw Parliament. If the Noble Earl extended
hi, objection so far as to say that no money ought
to be granted without au Act of Parliament, that
rik.;:tt be a matter of consideration, though the pric-
-I.c.e was otherwise; but if money were to be applied
in the usual way, he could see no real practical
fcrenez: v..l;::tht:n w. as sanctioned Lw
an .t.ct passed in this or in the 11:w Parliamcnt.—
D.; v;ould therefore Fropos2, that, after the lust Re-
solution, words should be inserted, stating in e!r.:ct
this Ilou,z was induce %, in con,to,lence of the'
state of public business, to a.-quiescc in the payment
voted by the }louse of Corunions, though no Act
of App:opi ration had boon piefetred, or had cc4i.e
before th'.:lll.
M.irl oI.I..V.s:SWITiN observed, that the
sun tio.; i.'t which then Lord,hilis rue plact d a nth
respect to t!;ii clue:Aloft, .ts 0::e of ths: evils; ori,lug
from th t: gross a.:t in:;.2.rectcncy, h., would give it
no .seve.:ec M1111:1C-Is 11:ia LeZT'guilty,
1:1 AdVi.;:lig his Pal li.tment
berate on i; sow a 4.!:‘0,01..iti0n. Tht do,a, v. hit
tl,e Noblc;E,ul had laisi tic \v ii en the subject wogs,
11,:wevcr, one to which hc lafavved their Loid.,hips
ouid not re.nlily f;:r is w c•aid imp!) 111. e.
.tiler %sac r:•:. Se.,ioa in ...Lich votes of the puhii,
n;oney n.t. he without lcavinL; to that
the means of 4::;;I:era:k..1 on its disposal. The
INLt.s.ii,e requested that their Ladshi,,s would Like'
n.ea,,,iros expc,:iting the necessary business of the
~..t"slat, but thc:e notl:inz in its terrris which
wal'iant,-1 tho sr,epositi4Al that they were to concur
in the manner Fop:se,: in a proceeding which impli-
cated their privile es, and with which the dignity of
the Royal Family and the highest public interest,

were connected ; that that Ileuse should abandoa at
once its right to controul and deliberation with re-
gard to the public money. Yet such were the g:c•s,
and comment the Noble Earl had put upon" the com-
munication from the Throne. The Noble Earl had
said the Resolution of 17S1 was passed with a parti-
cular view :—that might doubtless be said of every
Resolution th.:t ever was adopted. Rat the tact was,
that the Resolution of 17z:11. merely declaratory.
It did not make that law xvbioh W:l6 not law before.
but declared that to be law %%Lich no man had over
dared to t:er.y. "lice Resolution ceitainly, as the
Noble Earl said, had an object, which was, to bold
tip to the view of the Public Officers and to all man-
kind what the law was at a time %%lien there was
supposed to be a disposition to violate it. With re-
gard to the question before the House, though he
preferred the Resolutions of his Noble hiend,. he
should net object to the Amendment proposed by the
NA%le Earl it their Lor,khips appeared to prefer it.
The Earl of 1 IVEII FOOL said. that w ith re-pect
to the cominuanee CI the giants .11aided to by the
NoMe Maitpu,, nothing mole %vas-intended than to
rovide for the usu 11 payments at the end of the

i4,1:10.0-. it F.., took' now emu- into the

Le.:es,alS tanwnionts to:. the (Ix ii List, it wasnot
to be suppowd that .:11 theta liayments viouid cease.
It would be necest•ai y to colaintu.s. them to the end of
the Quatte:., to 1,1 evt:nr. the g: eat inconvenience I% hich
o( cut to indi%idual., hcf,.ie any new a„
rnent cou:d be completed. Tin. wa, iii I.ICI, nil that
WW.ta propoed to be dont.. o was no intention to
bia.i their Lorlships contininice rst :my t;rants,
as tic (Ines-ion ot the Civil List was lctt open
for the. con,i,l,-.'ation. of tho new Parliament.
The F... 11 of DONOUGHMORE intimated
tcalit.cns to ass-:it to the Amendment of the Resolu-
ti,,as.---Tlie tre,..tion w:ts then put, and the Resolu-
tinis. as proposc.d to Li: amended by Lind LIVER
POOL, agreed ti'.