Star.
London, England, 1804-03-12 00:00:00

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dee. The fotfeitore of a day's pay sod atteudanse
he thought would in general be found too flight a pu-
nifhment for aets of dilorder, or to infure the atten-
dance of Volunteers to the extent, and in the manner
that was fo defirable; and hence he thought it ne-
ceffary to add fomething in the ()tape of petfonal pu-
nifhment, or regimental difgrace, to be inflided on
the (pat, and at the difcretion of the commanding
officer. Such. for inflance, as ordering the defaulter.
for any mifcondue in the ranks, into immediate ar-
reit, under the cuftody of a Corporal ands few men.
in prefence of the regiment. and there to be kept
during the whole time of parade. The promptitude
of this punifhment, and its being inflieted in the pre-
fence of the corps, would, he was convinced, have a
much better circa in preferving order, and operating
' as a check upon the perfonal pride and fpirit of the
' individual. than the (mall fine propofed by the claufe
now read. There was another claufe which he had
alfo framed, for the purpofe of fecuring that which
was,
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g their difcipliae. in fuch a way as to enable
to co-operate with the troops of the line in that
conflift With the enemy which we had now fo fpeedily
1 to espea. . He had already mentioned the neceffity
which exifted, for holding out the ftrongeft induce-
ments to the whole of the Volunteers, to affemblo for
two or three weeks for permanent duty, is order to
bring their difcipline to the higheft Rate of perfeetion
poffible, within the (bort interval now left us to pre•
pare for the cianfliet with the enemy on Britilh ground.
8p4024: an events, it was indifpenfible that the Weft
attendance upon the drill days &odd be fi-
nned. Great inconvenience arofe throughout many
Pan" 4Or country, front the very irregular attna•
dance of certain dales of Falun, who only made
their appearance upon fignal occafinns ; and from
their grofs ipiperfation in di(cipline, very much im-
peded and interrupted the operations Of thofe ranks
who were more regular in their attendance- For this
purpofe, then, of better effeeting this' attendance, he
would propofe a fine of ss. for the firlt day's abfeace.
aoa. for the next,,and 5s fcr every fublequent day.
tie did not with to prefs the elude now, but would,
if agreeable. propofe it on the Report.
Mr. TIERNEY was as fenfible as any man could
be. of the neceffity for arming Commanding Officers
with fammary powers for. the purpofe of difcipline ;
but he much feared that veltiog fush powers to the •
extent propofed by the Right Hon. Gentleman would
be going rather too far,, and that every defirable put..
pole might be anfwered by the claufe propofed by hit
Right Hon. Friend. It was defirable, of all things,
to avoid not only every real caule of jcaloufy among
the corps, but every thing which might be tortured
conftruAtively into filch a caufe. He wee forty IV
have occalion to obferve, that among the Corps of
the metropolis at haft, there was a clefs of men.
who, from being perhaps better educated than many
of their comrades, amufed thetnfelves occafionally
with lifting Alta of Parliament, and feduloufly en-
•cleavouring to find out caufes of complaint, and ima-
ginary grievance, which they were but too apt to
ftiggeft, with their, own, comments, to the reft of the
Corps. The contagion of tech fuggeftions was but
too apt to fptead itfelf to other corps, and to excite
forpicions and clamour. when no real ground exilted;
the danger, therefore, would be. in carrying a ie.
gulation too far, which, inllead of attaining. might
defeat its objeft.
Col. EYRE was averfe to any thing compulfory
towards the Corps. bemire he feared to damp that
fpirit of ardour with which the Volunteers had. fo
nobly come forward in their country's defence. He
therefore feared the fpecies of compullion now pro-
pofed would difcourage the Volunteer, and check his
fpirit, when he felt himfelf under the controul of le-
gal fines and penalties.
The Marquis of TITCHFIELD. was againft the
mode propofed of infliffing fummary puoithment.
either pecuniary or perfonal, at the mere difcretion
of the Commanding Officer. He thought it would
be much more military, and certainly much le(s
obnoxious for the private Volunteer, that fuch• a
puniltment Holub.' be the refult of a Court Martial,
formed, however. summarily on the fpot, and coin-
poled of Non-commiffioned Officers and Privates.
Mr. Secretary YORKE hoped the Right HOD.
Gentleman did not mean to relit the claufe he pso-
poled, as its adopi ion would be MI bar to that of the
Right Hon. Gentleman's, either in the Committee.
or upon the report. He certainly agreed with the
Right Hon. Gentleman in the neceffity of extending
the psnalty to Voluoteers miffing to and from drill.,
as well as on parade. and alfo of rendering the
powers of the Commanding Officer fummary and
the placing of the defaulters under atter in pretence
of the Corps; but with retina to the fecond chukka
he thought it would be rilltiiig too much the creating
of diffatisfaftion and jealoufy ; for as the Bill gave
waft unequivocal privilege of refignation to the Vci
lunteers, prev'.. ns to a certain day, the penalties pro-
poled might Lmpt vast numbers to re ign. at the
very moment when it was molt defirable and impor•
Cant to retain their fervices. He did not approve the
idea of Coutts Martial, compnfed of Noncommif-
Grilled Officers ar.d Privates, fuggelted by the Noble
Marquis, as he arpiehelided it would nut be likely
to produce the deured end.
Air. Vr.rke's deltic was agreed to, as was the full
claufe propofed by bpi. Pitt.
Upon the propofition of Mr. Pitt's fecond clearer
a ditci.ftion 01 much length took place. It was cp.
pored by the ATTORNEY GENERAL. as • Prit"
ciple going rather too far, and raking too meth i
1 and it was better, he thought. •n flop Wort even of
1 what was &flyable, than. by exceeding it, to ewer
the c!...nce ..if the nhich was mutt to be deprecated-
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Hon. Gentleman recoiled that there were is c'
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had mad: very eminentp
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