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Coma of proceeding in 1188 differed most illitesiell7.
from that adopted on the present occasion. They
were now called upon to adjourn a report which mere-
ly admitted a probability of his Majesty's recovery;.
but on the occasion in 1738, the.report *its- decitive
as to that probability. He therefore protested against
the measure of adjournment.
, Mr. W I LLIA MS WYNNsta ted that the first duty.
of the House was to hear themselves the evidence as to
the state in which his Majesty now is ; and that they
could not better discharge the sacred trust reposed in
them by their constituents 'than by following such a
course. No consideration of delicacy ought to induce
them to depart from. the lineof conduet which they were
imperiously called on to follow. It was much betterfor
the House to examine by a Committeointo the state of
their. Sovereign, than to take their information at second
hand. He certainly could never look upon the Report
of the Privy Council as authentic information,on which
they could safely place reliance.' The House Would
never allow any document to have equal weight in
their estimation with .What was consistent with their
own knowledge. The present occasion differs mate-
rially from that of 178 R, when an adjournment was
proposed by Mr. Pitt. The House were not then told
of the probability of an amendment, but they were po-
sitively assured on the Ministerial responsibility of am
actual convalescence. Mr. Pitt came to the House on
the 20th of February, and they adjourned to the 24th,
afterwAds they adjourned to the 26th, again for other
three days, and lastly till the 10th of the following
month. The cases of 1601 and 1801 did not admit of
the smallest application to the present. No communi-
. cation was made to the House in 1801 of his Ma-
hsty's illness, and they were ignorant of the nature of
is indisposition. In 1801, when the subject of his
Majesty's illness was started in that House, they were
assured by Ministers that there wai no necessary in.
terruption of the Royal functions. Here it would cer-
tainly have been usurpation had the House ventured
Ito carry their enquiries farther ; but the case is now
ltotally different. They had on their Journals a state-
/ rnent from the Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr.
Perceval) that his Majesty was at present incapable of
exercising the Royal duties. What a difference too,
between the present period and 1788. The nation was
then in a state of peace, and Mr. Pitt was at the heaU
of the Administration. The internal affairs of the na-
tion were consequently the only objects of considera-
tion ; and our foreign policy was not calculated to in-
' spire us with uneasiness ; but how different the pre-
sent state of the nation, where a single step !right be
productive of important consequences to our most es-
sential interests. Should any unforeseen.accident hap
pen to Lord Wellington in Portugal, no assistance
could be sent to him. Could any money be drawn
from the Exchequer, though circumstances might ren-
, der a supply of money of the most indispensable ne,
cessity ? Could the,Privy Seal be affixed to the most
necessary deed ? Or could the Sign Manual be in any
case procured ? All that was asked was, that the
House Might be put in a situation from which they
might be enabled to decide on the ulterior steps that
ought to be taken. He could not see what difference
it could make with regard to the effect on the feel-
ings.of his Majesty, whether the examination took
place before the Privy Council or before the House.
No answer has been given to the question, as to the
time in which the recovery of his Majesty may be ex-
pected. He rejoiced as much as any man at the pro-
bability of that recovery ; but, as it was impossible to
look to any given period for such an event, he could
not give his assent to an adjournment.
Mr. BR AGGE BATHURST adverted to what
had been stated as to the difference between the pre-
sent period and 1788, and that the ground for ac-
ceding then to the motion for adjournment, was the
positive assurance of his Majesty's convalescence.
He would allow this, but was it not a sufficient an-
swer to those who state that every deficiency ought
to be immediately supplied ? This doctrine, he would
take it upon him to say, was new to the House, and
new to the country. He could not see the necessity
of taking a step which could hardly fail to hurt (le
feelings of his Majesty ; nor could he see the pro-
priety of refusing the adjournment at present, and
acceding to it a fortnight before. Why was the bare
word of the Chancellor of the Exchequer then to be
listened to, and the deliberate opinions delivered by
experienced phys;ciana not now to have an influence
on the House, who assured them that the King was
in a progressive state of amendment. In 1788, on the
bare allegation of two individuals, the two Houses of
Parliament thought -fit to suspend their measures, to
wait the effect of the predictions which had been
made to them, although the Regency Bill had al-
ready passed that House, and was under discussion
before the House of Lords. He thought the House
would do well to avoid setting on foot any mea-
sure on the present occasion. He could not avoid
thinking, that the eatnination of the Physicians be-
fore the Privy Council was a much better mode than.
the examination before the House. It was impossible
not to foresee that many injudicious questions would
be then put, which could hardly fail to hurt the feel-
ings of a delicate mind ; in the examination before the
Privy Council, all this has been very judiciously
avoided ; but in an examination before the 'House,
many minute particulars will be gone into, and many
injudicious questions put, which, not alone from de-
licacy to the individual who is the actual Sovereign,
it were to be wiFlcd could be avoided, but even from
motives of delicacy to the office of Sovereignty itself.
Notwithstanding %%4:at had been stated of the advanced
age of our Sovereign, it was highly probable that he
would yet be in a condition to exercise his Royal func-
tions; and, to preserve as much as possible to the
country, the hope of that recovery, it was necessary to
abstain from every thing which might have a con-
trary tendency. After the admission by the Chancel-
lor of the Exchequer, that at the end of fourteen days
something of a decisive. nature must be done, he
could not see that the House could with any propriety
refuse a:ceding to the motion for adjournment.
Mr. AnAM was as anxious as, any Member of
that House for his Majesty's recovery, and could
wish, if possible, that every delicacy should be obser-
ved in the steps that they might take. He was per-
suaded, however, chat no delicacy ought to stand in
the way of the exercise of those sacred duties. ' He
'wished to explain to the House the motives that for-
merly induced hini to vote for an adjournment, and
which, on the present occasion induced him to give
a different vote. When it was stated on a former oc-
casion that the Minister had seen the physicians,
And that ;key half given coAfident hopes pf 4 :req.

reconty, it was :not..perhaps granting too. Awl
to allow a fortnight before entering on a question
of so delicate a nature. It was v di event, how-
twofcndiigairhtseawt fratu that oft: the p
were as ~ Thclvotr:
everia•l76BB7hen was perfectly
sent occasion. The House ilid then the distinct
averments of Lord . Thurlow and Mr. Pitt, clothed
with the most awful responsibility, and the grave and
awful authority peculiar to Lord Thnrlow, to war-
rant them in their proceedings ; but the situation in
which the House now stood was very different
The Privy Council has been.assembled as was done
lby Mr. Pitt in 1788 ; but the House had no respon-
I sibility to look to, and no evidence before them.—
The examination of the Privy Council was taken
diunele, not in the presence of the House. He main-
tainPd that it - was contrary, to the sound doctrine of '
Parliament, and utterly impossible for that House
to proceed to act on any evidence except delivered
in the House, or in presence of those delegated
from the House. The Privy Council is no doubt a
respectable body, but the Privy Council is not Par-
liament, and the evidence taken before it must be
considered exactly in the same light as taken before
any other court. He asserted, therefore, that it was
contrary to the duty of the House to proceed in any
other way than by granting a commission in the way
which had been proposed. Mr. Pitt thought fit on
the Thursday to move for an adjournment to Mon-
day ; and on the Monday he moved for an examina-
tion into the state of his Majesty's health. Mr. Fox
acceded to this measure as proper, and as reasonable,
although it proceeded from a person in political op-
position to him, from a conviction that it was impro-
per to proceed on evidence not taken before the House.
When he (Mr. Adam) came to the House, he ima-
gined that an adjournment was in like manner to be
proposed until Monday, and that then a Committee
would be appointed, that the precedent of 1788
might be followed as nearly as possible, in order to
k-enquire into the state of his Majesty. In such a case
he could have agreed to an adjournment. He did not
mean to say that the examination before the Privy Cou-
ncil was conducted on false principles • nor would he as-
sert that there was not much in the examination of
1788 which every body wished had not taken plate ;
but it was necessary Parliament should see with its own
eyes. Considerations of delicacy ought not to stand in
the way of truth. He was perfectly aware of the de-
fects of that House in many respects; but it was pro-
per to consider the House in all its aspects ' • and not
alone to dwell on its defects. He could not, therefore,
consent to abandon Parliamentary enquiry, because
some Gentlemen might think proper to ask improper
questions. This was the due course to be followed.
He would not take into his consideration at present
what might take place in consequenceof the Commi-
ttee's Report; it was only what should transpire from
that Committee, that could put them in possession of
the circumstances which might enable them to do so.
He paid a tribute to his Majesty's virtues. He sta-
ted, that he was unwilling to take any step deviating
in the least from complete precedent ; and there was
one such precedent in 1788, in which all Members
were agreed. He stated the difference between re-
sponsibility and examination before the 'Privy Coun-
cil, which could only be considered in the light of a
declaration of notoriety. He wished at present to
avoid all questions of an ulterior nature, convinced as
he was, that sufficient for the day is the evil thereof.
—On these and some other considerations, he voted
against the adjournment.
Mr. W IL BE RFO RC E combated the arguments of
the preceding speaker, whose legal habits, he said,
had led him to consider the subject in too technical
and too confined an aspect. If the House thought 1
proper to adjourn on verbal testimony alone, why
should they now refuse to do so ? moreparticularly I
as no real substantial injury could be pointed out as
likely to accrue froth adopting the Motion for Ad-
journment. An examination before a Committee
of the House might be se conducted as to be pain-
ful to the feelings of the Monarch ; and when it was
known that that Monarch had been fifty years on the-;
_throne (Hear) and that no material injury was likely
to arise from the adoption of adjournment, he could
not think that the House would refuse to go into
that measure. The King dearly loves his people ; ,
and they love their Monarch because they know that
he loves them, and because they know also that they
have enjoyed happiTtess and prosperity under his mild
and plt.milal govechment. (Hear.) One argument
stated on the other side had once almost wrought
conviction on him respecting the danger of allowing
themselves to be carried too far by their ideas of de-
licacy ; but as it was stated by the Right Hon. Qen-
tleman (Mr. Perceval) thv it his Majesty should
continue indisposed at the end of a fortnight, some
measures would be resorted to, and that no material
injury would result from the delay ; and on this sub-
ject he could not but suppose that Ministers must ne-
cessailly be best acquainted. He would therefore
repose confidence in them, and he would in that way
be able- to reconcile delicacy with his duty. Upon
the whole he agreed-to vote for the motion.
Mr. FULLER asked why they could refuse to go
upon the opinion of two of the ablest p!iysicians and
honest men in the country (laugh), far above any
mean or unworthy motives ? What could these men
gain by their present situation—they were in a worse
situation than when physicians to the public ? Every
probability was that he would be restored again to
sanity, both of mind and body. What had they to
reason on but simple facts brought before them. He
concluded a speech, in which he made several apos-
trophies to the feelings of the House, and used seve-
ral strong expressions, which produced the usual effect
on the House, with voting for the motion. .
The CEIANCELLOit of the EXCHEQUER
addressed the Members in the Lobby, requesting
them, whatever might be the result of the division,
then, not to separate, as it was probable that a second
division would take place. The numbers on the ques-
tion of Adjournmeet to this day fortnight were,
Ayes, 233 —Noes, 129—Majority 101.
A second division then took place on the question
for appointing a Committee to examine die Physi-
cians, when the numbers were,

Ayes, 137-LNoes, 236—Majority 93.
Adjourned to this day fortnight.

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THE EVENING STAP

LONDON.

FRIDAY. NOVEMBER SO.
• Sr. ANDasw.--trelidaY sr the Banks and EXCheltl

'The Korc.--The Mowing are the Bulletins
" WINDSOR CASTLE,
►• " Nice, I.M.
eg His MAJZSTY is not quite so well as'
the morning." (Signed as be{,
" -WINDSOR CASTLE, NI
“ His Mir continues „much the same
he was yesterday." (Signed as bet
The following important Notice was thi:
ed at LLOYD'S

.4,LOYM NOVEV

" Extract of a letter dated 20th instant, from Brii
this day the Mary from Lisbon. Letters are,recc
4atiki Lisbon 17th, stating, that on the night of t'
French broke up their camp, and begat' to retreat
tion, ask was supposed, of Santarem; that Lord Wt
in pursuit of them, and that 500 boats were sent up
The Captain of the Mary adds, it we reported at
a heavy firing had been heard is the French camp
previous to its being broken up."
The above &ring is supposed, by those
with military affairs, to.have been occasioi
French blowing up their powder magazine
to their retreat.

• EL cc is appointed Head of the new Regency in
ship is gone to convey him is

Lord VA'Awn* is arrived at Gibrzltar, io ce
after a passage of only a week.

At length something in the sh,pe of F
cial Intelligence-from Portugal has been pc
the Afoniieur. By Paris papers to the date
day last it appears that dispatches from

dated the Sd inst. were received at Paris
last, the 23d inst. brought by a General 1.
limits do not allow us to offer any rem Ari
subjoined extracts, viz. MASSE' 's dispatch
num, and so much of the details furnished'
ral For as the French have thought proper

PARIS, NOVEMBER 23
L&IT&L 111011 THE SI•RskiAL rimer. OF [MINI
SEELNIL HIGHNESS Fat MAJOIt•GINHCRAL

" Head-quarters, at Nenquer,
Monseigneur,—Your Highness has doul
ceived the letters which I had the honour ti
you from Visen and Coimbra. After havii
13th, Ilth, and 15th ult. well reconnoitered
shut up in his entrenched camp, on the I
Lisbon, I wrote you a long letter; but I hi
to think that it has not reached you.
44 I every day offer battle to the enema
keeps himself shut up in his entrenchments.
" I am just sending General Foy, with
in order tu give a line of direction to my
the rear-guard, commanded by General
and to the 9th corps, which is at this moment
frontiers of Portugal. My orders to General'
that upon arriving at Almeida, be should
escort there, and proceed to Paris with all
in order to give your Highness those de;
you may wish on the situation of the army,
information with regard to the ridiculoui
which we have seen herein the London tie'
There is only one word to oppose to these
it is, that they are all a fabrication.—The
a good condition. Every one rivals another
and zeal, and burns v:ith the desire to di
himself, and to merit the approbation of the
" I amp with respect, &c. (signed)
" The Marshal Prince of

1/110111 TM& 1111141TEUlt.
" The General of BrigaJe Foy arrived this day in
set out from the bead-quarters of the Prince of Essiing
411 November. He traversed Portugal with an ewe
dragoons.
" He brings satisfactory news of the titeatbn of
Ho contradicas entirely the false accounts of every 1
the English take pleasure in disseminating in ev-.y s!
" Our army is abundantly provided. Bread, meat,
rum, and even sugar and coffee, were :u
There were found upon the Tagus provisions of rvt
Lion ; rice arrived from America, colon'sl produce,
quantity of corn. The enemy had destroy,tl
which circumstance for some days obliged the arniv
rice and white beans; but since the ‘2o:h of Oetohe,
have been re-established in bufficieut number to gri-

quantity of corn necessary for • the con►umption of
A great many cattle have also been fewnet.
" According to the accounts given by General Fol
duct of the English in the country is inconceit•.thle.
entirely laid waste, burnt and destroye4-70 1.-agues of
a circumstance which sh, w• to the Continent the fate.
perience, if they should ever obtain any tufiuecce there,
hay been treated like Bengal after the !what) fa.liion.
" As for the rest, the English octopi, at the
..a strong position covered with redoubts, in which girl
lected cannon of every kind that they could procure.
of Essling drove then at the point of the bayonet from
to the capital, that is to say, for a space of 80 leagues.
chcie has retarded his march. It is to this rapidity
that the fine valley of the Tagus has remained not

that the enemy hid not an .pportnn;►y of ravaging
k, and which assures the subsibtence of the army for
months.

" The Prince of Fssling has thrown a bridge over
two tetes74-pent, which-are impregnable. He has alas
his magazines at Santarem, which he h fortifying
ed out the positions to put it, out of the danger of a
for the purpose, of assuring his commtmkatioas %k W+
places.

" The English army has a great many sick. There
great number of English deserters, while there is '
ter from the French army. Every thing that has bees
in the English Papers upon this subject, and upon s ash
mine, which, if we are to believe them, bas lasted mon
months, ate se many Idle tales invented to divert the
Ragland from the alarms which they have conceive!'
the tate of the Rnoish army.
" There have been ten clays isaus,hut the weather X
become very fine. Our army has very few AA. OW
principally fed on Indian corn, of which there is great:
horses are ip good condition.
" The ;wrenched camp of the English before Lisbon
theirposidon respectable i but it requires to be atlas'!"
or 50.000 English troops.
" The English Beet, with an immense number
is anchored in the Tagus. The population of the *bale
Portugal Is atsembled at Lisbon; in consequence of
mem number of people are collected there, which
of great diseeders anti a dreadful famine.
" As the General of Brigade Limas was endblegals
of the Tagus, at Villa Franca, with a friend, be vras tot
a callow-allot. This yam General Officer was of Mat
and his death is much
" The prisoner& on each side have been esebanfel

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