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additiotial pr'e6( that those who spoke most loudly
of liberty, were seldom so really attached .to it as
• more moderate assertors of its value—(Weer, heah).
He was an enemy to prophecy:. and therefore he
would not pretend to predict what effect tbe meal res
of the popular assembly in Spain would have on the
Spanish provinces; but looking back on history, he
would confidentfy assert that whatever benefits a
metropolitan district might derive from a popular
assembly, the state provinces under such an as-
sembly hadAwayt been one of suffering. If, there-
fore, he were animated by an ardent solicitude for the
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cause of South America, so far should he be from re-
tracting any opinion he had entertained on the sub-
ject during the existence of the late Government in
Spain, that the change in that Government would in-
duce him to assert that opinion with tenfold vehe-
mence. His Hon. and Learned Friend had talked
of the expulsion. of the French from Spain by the
mere energy of the people, with " little" aid of re-
gular. military-force. His Honourable and Learned
Friend was not in Parliament at the commencement
of the Spanish contest. He would tell him, that
only ten years ago, the, man who had ventured- to
predict that Spain would be released from the yoke of
France, would have -been laughed to scorn—(H'ear).
The Spanish people were at that time called weak
bigots, incapable of raising an arm in their own
defence, and he would have been considered a mad-
man who should have anticipated the actual result.
It was true that the Spanish people had suLequently
made great efforts ; but when his Hon. and Learned
Friend talked of their having only "little" regular
military aid, he wished to ask whether the history
of the victories of Salamanca, of Vittoria, of, Tala-
vera, of the Pyrenees, with all the other glorious
achievements of the illustrious Wellington, was so
vague and remote,:that his Hon. and Learned Friend
could call the assistance which England bad ten= •
dered to Spain a " little" military aid ? Left to
itself, the cause of Spain must have been hopeless.
—Nothing could have saved her but the celebrated
march of our illustrious Commander. Now, how-
ever, all this was to be called a " little" military aid,
and was to be sunk, because Spain had had a Revolu-
tion, and the benefits of a Revolution must be talked
of. He was as warm a friend for the extension of liberty
,and of liberal institutions throughout Europe as his
leknourable and Learned Friend ; but he never was
'disposed to prefer new institutions because they were
new, and to detest established institutions .because
they were established. He retained the same wishes
with respect to South America as formerly.; but he
must oppose the Honourable and Learned Gentle-
man's motion, considering it to be altogether with-
out ground.
Mr. ELLICE expressed his earnest hope that his
Majesty's Ministers would take into their serious con-
sideration the great capital which was involved in the
South American trade. That trade was in all its
branches of the highest importance to Great Britain,
and called for the peculiar protection of Government.
Sir F. OMMANNEY opposed the motion.

Dr. LUSHINGTON, after some observation's -in
reply, stated, that he had no wish atspresent to press
his motion contrary to the wishes of the House.—
Motion withdrawn.
EAST INDIA COMPANY'S VOLUNTEERS.
On the motior. of Mr. CANNING, that the East. In-
dia Company Volunteers Bill be read a third time,
- Mr. CREEVEY begged to offer a few observations
against the Bill. The Honourable Member proceeded
' to argue, that the East India Company were not, at
present in a situation to support a corps of 850 men,
as was proposed by this Bill. These men, it was
true, were their porters, but it would be ridiculous
to suppose that men who worked all day could'act
efficiently, if called upon in any sudden emergency.
Twenty-five years - ago a simlla'r proposal was made
by the Company, but then the country was in afilu-.
.'once, and the resistance to be made was against- a
foreign enetny. Now the country was in the jaws of
bankruptcy, and the power to be raised was to resist
and put down the distressed manufacturers of the
country. The Honourable Member, after several
other observations, concluded by moving, as an
Amendment, " That the Bill be read a third time
on this day six months."
Mr. HOBHOUSE seconded the motion.
Mr. MONEY supported the original motion. t
Mr. HOBHOUSE contended that there could be
no need of such a force,at a time when we had a
standing army of 92,000 men, of which 36,000 were
appointed to the pretection of Great Britain. In-the
most usurping periods of our Government, in the
reign of Cromwell, the spirit of the country was kept
down by a force of 32,000 men, including Ireland ;
he saw no reason, therefore, for any additional force,
and therefore heshould oppose the motion. .
Mr. W. WILLIAMS supported the motion, be.
.cause he conceived Volunteer or Militia Regiments
the most constitutional force that could be used in
any case of internal commotion, or for the preserva-
lion of the public peace. He was averse to a large
standing army, as he had- already shewn by his vote,
and therefore it was that he supported that motion.
. The Bill was read a third time and passed.
ALIEN BILL.
On the motion of Lord CASTLIMEAGE, that the
Report of the Alien Regulation Bill be received,
Mr. J. P. GRANT said, he wished to suggest toO
clauses to be inserted in this Bill ; the first was, that
Aliens ,about to-be removed from this' ountry under
this Bill, should have a choice of selecting-the pOrt
to which they wished to be removed, and the ships in
which they should take their passage (they heining
the expense), provided always that no Unneeessaty
delay, should take place. The next was, preventing
the removal of Alien women married to natnril born
subjects of this country.
The SPEAKER said, that those clauses could not "
be proposed unless the Bill was re-conimitted.
Mr. J. P. GRANT said; object st as to have the
clauses entered on the Journals, he did not mean to
press-them.—Clauses Withdrawn.
The Report was then received, and the Bill was
ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.
IRISH SPIRWS INTERCOURSE BILL. •
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCLIAQ.Uak,tope Bos,
pone the cousideradon of this DMA CominitteeA .841' 4
the desire of mitre; Menthes.% 'The Night Gone.
man said,,thet be would pitixtse a clause to. rtlalitikt4e ebrepob
of spirits to beistported from Ireland to this cialateTh
- SHAW string*/ urged the-nectisliy of hringinsthe Ed*
feet undor immediate consideration. After the pleuge that SA
I been given to the Irish Mullets in 1816, he was suck:Lista to

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