Star.
London, England, 1818-04-16 00:00:00

Navy
i' rachequer Bills 19 23 pr.

protracted. He therefore hoped that the rso.►
would now finally decide the question. It h
that about four years ago the House had deciaSeil (on
documents furnished to them at that time) what should
be the proper provision rat air occasion of this kind.--
Whether the decision of the House at that time had
been *Wise or not it was not for him to urirout
mast be taken as the 'standard by which the
should decide on the t prepositiou Therefore
he perfectly canna in the first pot of the Noble
Lord's statement, in which he assumed map. as the
basis for provisions of this nature. Sat betlottld not
easily make any exception in throes, of the Duke of
Clarence to entitle him to ady siiphional allowance
beyond that which warnecessary for his Rand-bro.
there. The case of the DiskedF Fork4as quite
ferent from that of the Ddke of,:clesenee ; for when
the Duke of York married, therW'fres only one step
between him and the Crown. 1k perfectly *Vet
in all that had been said as to the Dekiliofliantbeidge.
But as to the Duke of Curnberland, iser=thouet ae
Hon. Member for Surrey (Mr. H. Sumner), had
made a very invidious distinction. As there was al-
ready an ar;lndment before the Committee, he was
at a loss how to procceed.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL was desirous that every
grant which was necessary to the dignity Of the Royal
Family should be/Agreed to, yet he thought that some
attention should be paid to the means which the na-
tion had of making good those ts.--(Hear !)
The CHAIRMAN suggested, that if the amend-
merit already moved Was negatived gun .any .other
amendment might be proposed. .
Mr. MARTIN spoke shortly against theß esolutictn.
Lord LASCELLES did not think that there was
aay necessity for delay ; neither did he consider it
just or fair in the vote of this night to go into a uri-
nate investigation of the circumstances of all the high
individuals concerned. The question *as, that eq..
taro members of the Royal Family were on the eve
of marrying, and whether the House would give
them its assistance to carry- the projected allianc
Into effect? When he had addressed the House on
a former occasion, it was with a conviction that hi
was acting not oply for the credit of the House it-
self, but for the good of the patties concerned. He
had never meant to say that some provision should
not he made, but that in the present circumstances
of the country, it was impossible to grant the allow,
anal originally proposed. He should have no lei
of oi2jection to make to the reduced provisions theta
the three parties whose marriages were underitdelit
to be on fax.
Mr. FORBES did not think that any distinction
should he made between the Duke of Clarence
the rest of the Royal Family, and therefore should
vote for reducing the grant proposed to 6000/.
Lord CO3IPTON defended the propriety of mak-
ing a.difference in favour of the Duke of Clarence.
Though there were two members of the Royal Fa-
mily between him and the throne, yet they were
older, and had no children.
_ Mr. SAMUEL THORNTON, after alluding to
the general conduct of the Duke of Gloucester, Which
had gained the esteem of the country, expressed his,
intention of voting for the reduced sum.
Lord GOWER stated, that during the three years'
residence which her Royal Highness the Duchess of
Cumberland had made in this country, she had ac•
(piled its respect, and that the more she should be
known the more would-she be foiand worthy of esteem.
Here the call for a division being. violent, strangers
were ordered to withdraw. During the exclusion
Mr. BROUGHAM, Mr. 'imams,' and other eminent
Members spoke. The gallery having been re-opened,
though no division had taken place, we found
Mr. CkNNING -coneending, that with respect to
his Royal Highness the Duke of Clarence, it would
never have entered into his contemplation to engage
in the proposed alliance, if it had not been pressed upon
Woo es an act of public duty.--(llear, and laughter.)
Winn he had been desired to state on what condi-
tions he would contract the marriage, he had wished
thew so be limited to the provision of such means as
woad prevent him from incurring debts,, and be-
that odious maniacs, a. burtben to the
country. With respect to his ancient debts, .he had,
himself made a provision for the payment *Of their
interest and. the uluntate liquid natio of the capital.
It was not, therefore, an em berrawd man who ap-.
plied for assistance—he would pot have wanted aid
had be not been about to marry, and he did not con-
tract this alliance for his private desire and gratifica-
tion---(loud lasighter)--but because it was pressed
upon him to secure the succession to the Throne.—
le there was any thing ridiculous in this, let the House
thank the state of its laws—let it thank that prohibi-
tion which precluded the Princes of the Royal Fa-
mily front contracting marriages of liking, and insisted
on their I.ooking abroad for wives. But when, in obe-
dience to these laws and to advice they engaged in
marriages not of liking—(hear, hear, and laughter)—
for how could there be any liking between pan.
stile had never seen each other ; but founded on pub-
lic grounds alone, was it fair for the House to turn
round upon them? The interval which had occurred
between the bringing down of the Message and the
present discussion, had been employed in investiga-,
tions which enabled him to state, that with 10,0001.
additional a-year, it was the opinion, not of the
Duke of Clarence himself, but of the persons most
Dm in the domestic concerns of the Royal
household, that hie Royal Highness could not take
upon himself the cate and oignity- of a married
prince, without incurring the danger of contracting
fresh debts. This opinion was given by those who
bad been desired to ascertain how IT! ill, propc.

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be totally_iniedicisni. • • .
Kr. WODEHOIJSIS expressed his siseided dew%
minetiontirbasziet the anseadeeet presiding- by the
VTR •
MbAINLIALII thengliteint any greats
which might be *tight nereenng fight he taken
front other soma them those peopenerk The W
spe meablidunent was on etsch-seieeing that k could
fiebbse eon equal to the end is view, without injury
Iliseerparson, Cr to the inserts of the State. On a
Wilma occanon, inwhich a liberal provision had been
Made, the hearc&of the House and the country had
bees logrested, independently of all political feelings
winnower:
IffETHIJEN Mid, that if any additions were
lain to the incomes of the Royal Dukes, they ought
• • be taken-from the Windsor establidtment—(keer,
He Ow no reason why a Larger sum should
be assigned to the Duke of Clarence. than to any of
the rest of the Royal Dukes. He sorely did not de-
serve it by the pre-eminence of his Civil, Naval, or
Military Services--(haar, hear).
Sir WILLIAM GUISE thought the Duke of Cli-
rence had been sufficiently rewarded for any service
he had rendered his country.
Lord CASTLEREAGH wished to correct a loose
and general notion that a large reduction might take
place in the Windsor Establishmeet. If the Com-
mittee had. an opportunity of looking into it, they
would, find that it was conducted on the principle of
the strictest economy.. The only branch in which
some redaction might take place was that of the
Officers of State of his Majesty, which amountedia
93,0001. ; but, even should the Groom of the
and the Equerries be reduced, the inviug would not
exceed 60001. a year.
Mr. TIERNEY said he should read the items o(
the Windsor Establishment, that .the House might
judge whether some roductienanight net be made in
it. There was his Majesty's Privy Purse, which
amounted to 00,0001. a-year, out of which 18,0001'
might be paid to the Physicians. The Duchy of
Lancaster yielded 10,0001. and both these sums uni-
ted node a fund•of 70,0001. which, with the excep-
tion of the Physician's pay, remained to accumulate
for some one. His Majesty's Establishment was
100,0001. that of the Queen 58,0001. and with
10,0001. allowed, he knew nx bow, for travelling
expenses, 60,0001. To. these were to be addedls,ooa
for each, or 36,0001. far the two Princesses, making
ea the whole 264,0004 fee she Establishment at
Windsor. Yet could it be said that the Queor and
her two daughters, and his Majesty himself, in his
present unfortunate state, could not be maintained
out of that fund, and some saving be effected ?
(Hear, Aces.)
Lord CASTLEREAGH contended that it was not
fair to include his Majesty's privy purse within the
Windsor Establishment. He also stated that her
Majesty was entitled to 100,0001. a-year as her join-
' cure, which, if deducted from the amount of- the
Honourable Gentleman's calculation, would leave an
establishment of only 164,0001.
Mr. IiAMBTON thought that he Amid be wanting in-his
duty to his constituents and his country, if he did not support the
reigning Family and the line of succession to the Throne; but
In the present burthened state of the country. and when so many
measures were required for the relief of the poor, he could not
consent to vote a single shilling. It was not sufficient to say that
the grants proposed might be taken out of the Windsor estab-
lish:neat, for if there was any mons in that establishment let it
be done away with at once-411w, hear, hear Ij—instead of
being applied to any purpose like the present. The question
was, whether the House would not consent to vote 6,004. a
yea; to en irk his Refal Highness the Duke of Clarence to marry.
But had not that Royal Duke dissipated the 20p00l. which .had
been already granted to him? And was the Howse to repiir the
eorsequences of his misconduct? This-was not what its cored--
tuents had a right to expect, and the House would not do its
duty_ if it did not resist the proposition in Its very beginning.
Mr. WYNNE should vote id favour of the reduction of the
grant of r,oOOL for the Duke of Clarence. If he should after-
wards become heir apparent, the House might exercise its judg-
ment, and grant Jahn a further increase. He contended that the
case of the Duke of York was not one in point. Ile also thought
that the Windsor establishment was a subject worthy the atten-
tion of Parliament, though the present moment was not proper
for taking it into consideration.
The Cries of question became vehement, and the gallery was
once more cleared. The House divided on Mr. Hahne Sam-
nen Amendment, that the Grant be reduced from 10,0001. to
6,0001. Ayes - - 193
Noes - - 164
• Majority against Ministers . —4
The result was received with loud shouts of lcuse ; amidst
which, we understadd, Lord CAITISSZACIII re* and observed;
that since the Hotta bad thought propirto VOW the larger sum
to the Doha of Charon, he believed-1m wiest emptiest the nego-
tiation for the arse illop alight bo comiloopi at so end.
When we nompooll tart oPil toisostood that it was
agroo4to repot progres, and tit loots tit spin, which was
lone. The Cemeittee to sit again to4llllllo-w (this day).
The Bowe dna sorter, the *dna adios of the day were
disponi ef.mod the Houser ijoiding ss hdr•Pail eleven.

assennia AT Leas Paramsnosam•QemiN—Sinman—Yesterday
. LieuteLea.D.E# IPSO" of the Hatay of the 624 Regirnent of
Foot, was trimehedp fee final d•ott charged with firing
a pistol at Lord 'Thiegtet Adartstes, aecittary at War. Hie
stated the dememietells d the trammesios may as
theilkalsem UMW& tis efireser Us a Twitted from
the Meilageabas- Me =IP labs be bed no pommel knowledge
of the phew; air he precisely say k was him that fired
it=eibe Sash he perceived an inewidmi, Yet odd set
fietures. Idr. Amity Cooper, the esrgerm, de-
scribed the waged as alight—lle had been called to the War-,
Office on ample of Lad Palmerston being Mot. When he
entered he fouled lb Lcesisidp engaged in writing a letter. dill
Lordship nabbed, directed, and sealed the letter, and that add
" Now, Sir, you shileseinine."—Witness then proceeded to de-
scribe the wound, "Milne on the loin, a little to tbs. left of
the spine. and was otamioned by the wadding and a bullet.—
Mr. Marklaed now told the prisoner It was Ids duty se commit
him, on which he bowed *to the Magistrate and kis Lordship;
and en Ming asked if he had any thing to say awasseneed a do-
tall M grievances Ise &Hedged having sa*e irons Government ;
bat the Magistrate advised him to reserve any thing of At kind
for a future period—the prisoner was then silent. The Pollee
`Officers produced, among other contents of his portmanteau, the
i fellow pistol to that which he fired adds lizbbipt as formerly

The New Finance Scheme of raising money by
converting the 3 per Cents. into a Stock bearing 3/1
per Cent. interest, does net, as yet, seem to be relished
by the Fund-holders. Consols began yesterday at 82,
soon fell to 81, and closed at MI for the Account;.
and the whole stun subscribed was short of six mil-
lions.--So great fluctuation has taken place this
morning. Consols for the Account opened at 801,
fell to Boi, and afterwards rose to sat. The Coni-
snissioners were served generally by the Jobbers ; for
the greater part they gave 80,1, and for the remainder
.801. The Market looked heavy, and a further de-
pressie.t is expected.

The Debates in both Houses of Parliament, last
night, in reference to the additional provision pro-
posed to be made for the Royal Dukes, were highly
animated, and will be read with unusual interest. In the
Commons, where the amount of the grants came into
discussion, was the chief straggle. The original in-
tention was, that his Royal Highness the Duke of
CLARENCE should have 40,0001. a year, and 20,0001.
as an outfit—the other Royal Dukes 30,0001. a year,
and 12,0001. for outfit: i. e. to makesach an addi-

ties to their present incomes as would raise them to
these sums. The grants wanted were to the Duke of
CLAREXCE 19,5001. a year, and to the other Dukes
12,000 ; but Ministers having weighed the reluctance
with which the bare mention of such sums was re.
ceived, proposed, last night, that the grants should be
10,0001. a year to the Duke of CLARENCE, and 6,0001•
en the other Royal Dukes, or one halt of what was
at first contemplated. As the consideration of the

grants come on separately, it wagon that to the Duke
o CLAamrcE that the debate of last ni:)-ht took place,
As an amendment to the proposal for 10,9001. a
year to his R,yal Highness it was moved to substi-
tote 6,0001. a yesu-; and the amendment was carried
by a majority of 9 against the Ministers.

One of the awuments pressed on both Houses
favour of the plait was, that no new burden would
be thrown en the people, as the 10,000/. that hasl
fallen in by the death of the Princess CitAni.orrs
and the 50,0001. set apart for the liquidation of
the debts of the Prince tot WALES, which fund will
be liberated in about two years, would cover the
whole intended expense. This, however, was a
mode of masoning which seemed to have no weight
with the House. Indeed it could not ; for it pre
sumes, that the public, though chargeable upon all
occasions of expense, have no right to relief, while
the occasions cease. It treats them as having no ps•
cuniary rights, though they have so many pecuniary
duties. It permits no suppression of disbursements,
as long as new occasions can be found, for claiming,
their amount : and at a moment when the expendi-
ture of the country exceeds its income the natural
application of all sums falling its to the account of
the State, should be in aid of the deficit.

One fact we gather from the event of last night's
discussion is, that the clamour that has been raised
of the absolute inefficiency of Parliament for the
purpose of guarding over the property of the people,
and the charge of its readiness to dip deep into the
pockets of the people, whenever it is the wish of the
Crown or of its Ministers to do so, are unfounded
calumnies. In the hurry and bustle of a time of war
there may be profusion—it is indeed unavoidable,
but the division of last night chews that this must be
ascribed to other causes than a disregard to the wel-
fare of the people.

The Paris Papers of Monday arrived this morning,
but except the continuation of the trial of the assassins
of M. Fualdes, which we have no room for to-day,
they contain nothing of the least interest.

NEWMARKET CRAVEN MEETING, 1 sue.
WEDNSSDAY, APRIL 15.

Sweepstakes of 200 gs. sock, h. ft. for the predate of mute
eovered in 1114 ; toil* list. 71b. Silica, est. 31k. D.M.
Lord Jersey's Ely, bierguSslluaer yer - - - -
Mr. babe's eat, by or Election - - - s
Lord G. H. Cavendish s Slly, by Middledhorpe - - 3
. Even.betthtit on Mr. Lake's colt.
Mr. Ventilates bay filly, by Juniper, beat Mr. Thornhill's
bay Any, by nod,. sit. Mb. each, T.Y.C. 100 gs. h. ft,--S to 4
on Mr. Yansinart's
Subscription Plate of X5O, for 2-yr-olds, 7st. 3-yr-olds, Sat. 71b.
4-yr-olds, 9st.
Mr. Lake's bay colt, by Seymour or Ikm-don - 1
Sir C. Banbury's brown colt, by Scanner - -
Lord G. H. Cavenclin's brown colt David
Mr. Wyndharn's grey colt, by Canopus
Duke of Glegton's hy colt Milton.
Thiftees started—T Judge-laced bat' wo—High odds on
Mr. Lake's oak--6 to 4 eget David-4 to 1 apt Mr. Wynd-
ham's sosl4-1 to 1 apt Milton.
Fun... Yesterday morning, between 10 said 12 o'clock, the
elms of Sea roussended through the town of Windsor, and the
drawn the Defrocks beat to arms. The house of Mr. James,
1 ThanicS•stteet, was discovered to be en fire, and was entirely
amismekeepther with the adjoining house, occupied by Hiss
Coes& '-emt pester is doe to the Military for their exertions
,wttlitihsirsighfflattstz the nutlet,.

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t. sition could be k.t Pram the information data Mb Lulialp sod the other parties ware then bound
its bearings did not allow him to meet the manly, ho. since collected lip they bed felt it their '*sr leireethoottitoe eittirimere
wiciertr.inalactteoeTodultle.kts }r-
and concilia6ng language of the Noble Lord doll, in obedience to the tat to be Weaken ones p'op'e !drams' and prop/Seri 'ri ii ii bank-no and
=t in which he should otherwise have wished to 'of the Honer to reduce the greeet. _ which
. they ing.lbelosemd on hhw when Wiwi, Into c;wtody, were a
do. Bodo what he had mentioned, thee ees mew Ma intended to propose-trr. near, aser.,l-...,. 'a'e'rie iime,havieg been sealed up is the Waredlie, and
condidereefon.which should be laid,
entirely out oft
t. Met thy, thought dim kis 140001. addition" oda Sere !,1 Lowder, who maw produced them; The
question in such a cue. namely, mere political as Olobld clither_ gratify his lord Highness nor due 7 inside and out.
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'itch:sent. The House dog% not -id any degree.% embtrYi if hiebbed tO nlinbinhial lOb=lisas- THE EVENING STAR.
.be-inireinced on such a (Lucian- by_dunoor out of lellehotest without the srugrue of debts. awl .0p..----.—•-, ------ ,
- doorsi Certainly it was a very diflcult matter to Vibe Room voted clk 6001:4 idigh.. laitther- '
say what precise sum was erectly prelim on cub an !verde be mamma eta Ibelee, it wow, ill eele LONDON.
;Occasion. Although hi could not 'mutt **repo- to InglifT tbe _ ,eotoroettlfel=l: bk R•71114# .
eitket of the Noble Lord. still less could he adopt the beselear4-61.413.1g 1 i"vauld 48117 vote THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 1818.
Opinion of the Honourable Member for Sosellerark, one h which brinielPhre ballbdalb ha"
who wished to put off the discussion to a future day. Our)—and what, dough itinigbt have mai* Till It7£ Da
Mina OF traces rats cut Ar rwstva o'cLoce :
Nothing was more inconsistent with the which lama br fair argneneb4 they autenor=d. to tha
ought always to be observed towards the oyal Fa- ewe of the Hottee-lessefeen , tied leggker.)-11* aced 79ff ea. div.—Consols 800
Indy, than that distnssions of this bind should be therefore trusted tbe weuld come to a decided' .Ceeet. for Acc. 80f1-4 per Cent. 97ii et. dir.
_ a-n...11.... hem..l that the House vote in fleroVe er.ll 11111viebeldent *Ku which "mid Nervy Anns.lo7ka--India Bonds 913 93 pr.