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Do you attribute his mental derangeniest to ant Were you preset* at fhl giseinterview betwerin the interliew with the CICI* 'lt
-And yet nn beneficien effect was ,
bodily complaint ?-I should conceive, thlre'werttwo Chincellor and the King?-Yes.
causes of this complaint ; the body mist he predii- Was it by his Miplesty's desire that the autncellot that interview ?eel dn not remember'
posed by indisposition, to receive the ;Agree of such was-introduced to him the first time n-Upon men- ' cular good was de iced from it.
a cause as produces the King's symptoms., " . tinnrrig to his Majesty that the Chancellor bad eotne From the second interview,
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When you say that the body must be prediiposed, to Windsor to inquire after him, the King
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do you. mean to say that in all cases, derangenient of a desire to see him.C.O.
mind is accompanied by indisposition of body ?-I am Was the King :informed, always, of the arrival of
.. Do you.kpow whether the King
speaking of the King's case in particular. the Chancellor, er persons of that eminence, at Wind-
. grethanaterhedwegreeas atotfhsee .
Do you mean to say, that there must in all cases sor, to inquire after his health ?-Not always.
be an indisposition of body, when there is a mental , Was it by the Chancellor's desire the King was comparison between the circumstancti
derangement ?--I think it probable then must be so.: then informed of his arrival at Windsor ?-No, I be- the iirat interview and the second ; it
Have you ever had under your care, or ever seen, lieve not. tame of six or seven weeks; the sym)
persons in a case of mental derangement, where it was • Who informed the King ?-I think I did myself, the Fame.
impossible for the physician to trace bodily indisposi- but lam not sure. You bevies been present, and the
tion ?-on think I have, generally, been able. to trace You, of your own motion, without being desired I eitheripresent or in aro ,m immedi
bodily indisposition. by any body, informed the King, the Chancellor was I with too door open, when the Chaucel,
Do you think that the King's mental derangement arrived at Windsor to inquire after his Majesty's I interview with the King, and when Mr.
depends upon the present state of his bodily indispo- health ?-Yes ; my colleagues were acquainted with ! his interview with the Kin ; how
sition ?-Not entirely. n
my intention of informing his Majesty, that the Chan-' cia sto leave the room entirely, whet
When were you first called in, to visit the King in cellor had arrived ..it 'W n htd his Windsor to enquire after his second interview with the Ki
his present illness ?-His Majesty asked me some ques. health. . : desirable taat the Chancellor should ,
tions, respecting the .propriety of taking medicine, on I Did all the Physicians concur in the propriety of ment of the state pf the King uninilueno
the evening of the 25th of October. giving his Majesty that information ?-Yes. I sence cf any other person.
Did you, then, perceive any symptoms of mental You were directed by the Physicians to give that , Judnment, for v. hat impose ?-..ene
derangement in the King ?-The King's conversation information ?-It was agreed upon amongst us that pose ; in the first interview w if, thi
and his manner wee hurried. that information should be given. seemed very desirable that the Chat
• Was that such, its-to amount, in your opinion, to a Did you consult the other Physicians, before yen able to state to Parliament, what ,
state of mental derangement and incapacity for bu. introduced the Chancellor, in consequence of the King was.
siness ?-I air& net, :.t that time., King's request, that he might be introduced, on hear. Did the Chancellor himself express
Had pin opportunities of seeing the King, before ing that he had arrived aanWindsnr ?-.-Yes. theßing,
.for the purpose of being
the 25th of October ne-Yes ; I saw his Majesty every Did they concur in the prdpriety of the interview Parliament what the state of his Ka
day,•three times, from the 5d olOctober. between the King and the Chancellor ?- Yes.. not remember that the. Chancellor •
Did you, in the interval between the 3d and the I After that consultation Of Physicians, did you, wish ; I think it was rather the with
25th of October, perceive any symptom of indisposi- i yourself, introduce the Chancellor to the first inter. in the first instance.
tion about the King ?-I sometimes thought his Ma- view ?-Yes,.l did; the other Physicians being pre..! in thexeoudinsrince I-In the
.see,
jetty's manner agitated ; but there always seemed an sent. had taken upon ms t•if to use the Char
occasion of this, in the report which was made re- Were all the Physicians in the room at the time ? the particular. medical purpose I still
specting the Princess Amelia. -I think they were ; if they were not, the door was having neede that intimation to the Ki.
Was that agitation of a nature to excite any parti- open, and they were in the next room. i sieians were of opinion; that it was nut
cular apprehensions, in your mind, with regard to his Were you yourself in the room ?-Yes. 1 the risk -of. the irritation, which a disal
Majesty's mental health ?-No, not at that time. What effect had that interview upon his Majesty ? the King's expectation might occasion.
Not at any time, between the 3cl and the 25th of -The King expressed great satisfaction at seeing the' Whit led to any idea, that a disappoil
October ?-No. Chancellor. I King was likely to occur, after you ha,
You have said, that on the 25th of October, the Had it a beneficial effect upon his Majesty's mental ' posal, communicated that proposal
King was not so much mentally indisposed, as to in. health ?- Ido not thinkit made the least difference. ! sicians, and that proposal had met
capacitate him for business, or amount to mental de- At the second interview to which the Chancellor rent assent of the other Physicians?-..
rangement ; and you have said, the King is so indis. was admitted, did you communicate to the King that thotneht it proper to observe our premises
posed now ; when did the symptoms become so ur- the Chancellor was arrived t Windsor ?-Yes. religiously.
gent, as to amount to incapacity for business, and to Did you propose to the KI in to see the Chancellor What led to any idea that that promi
establish a character of mental derangement ?-His the second time, or did the 'King desire it ?-I must broken, in this instance ?-When tla
Majesty's symptoms increased rapidly on the 28th of state the circumstance : on the preceding morning ' rived, end I intimated to the Chan
October. f (the Tuesday) I felted the King involved in a great given such an intimation to the Kin:
In point of fact, did his Majesty transact any public I many errors and misconceptions ; and I took the : King had seemed satisfied with th
business, to your knowledge, between the '2sth and liberty of using the Chancellor's name, entirely as a seeing him, one of the Physicians
28th of October ?-I do not know. medical expedient. It occurred to me, that the men. ' prehension that it might be injuriot
Up to the 28th, was his Majesty in a state to trans. Gen of his r.arne would extricate him from those see the ChancelL;r. •
act public business ?-I think so; I think the King I errors, and it had that effect. In consequence of this: Which of the Physicians expressed
could transact public business. I ventured to say, tint it was probable the Chancellor sion ?-Dr. Robert Willis.
Are the Committee to understand, that, up to the would be at Windsor within a day or two ; feeling ! Did,he concur ultimately with the
28th of October, and on the 23th of October, his Ma. convinced, that the temporary restraint under which or was he over•ruled t-We found,
jesty was in such a state as; if he had been a private his Majesty would hold a conversation with the Chan- the King was in anxious expectation
individual, he would have been intrusted with the cellor, might be of use in the future conduct of him- for ; and that it was thought better, i
transaction of any thing in the management of his self. On that ground, I proposed that his Majesty cumstances, that the: King shouldsee,
own concerns ?-I. thin k youswOuld not have been ins. should see the Chancellor when next he cants. l , Did Dr. Robert Willis, then, express
tined, in taking from any individual, the power of To whom did you propose that he should see the that jibe had known before, that the -
transacting his own business, if, under the circum- Chancellor, when next he came ?--To the King him- be made, he should have objected ,
stances that his Majesty was, I think I might say, to self. , the objection, for the first time, when
the night of the 27th of October. Did you consult your colleagues, before you made . the Chancellor.
Has the treatment of his Majesty, in your opinion, that proposal to the King ?-nNo ; I took this entirely I Was that the first time that it
in every respect, both as to the introduction of per. ea myself : finding the King under the circumstances 'to 1)r. RobentWillis ?-No; Dr. Robert
sons, and the system of management, as well as the I have stated above, it was the determination 'of the lieve, knew the font before.
system of medicine, been perfectly proper ?-I be- moment. I Did Dr. Reinert Willis know the .
bone sa. When did you communicate to your colleagues day, at the same time as the other
You have been Arquainted with the system of ma. that you had made this proposal to the King ?- believe he did.
nagement, in the most minute particularity ?-Yes. i Shortly after-on the same day. Was it discussed, in the presence
And have-known of every person introduced to the Did they concur in the propriety of the interview Willis. with the other Physicians ?-n.
King 1-Certainly. taking place ?-No objection whatever was made. Did Dr. Robert Willis take any part
And every thing in the system of management, the When did you inform the Chancellor that you had i sion ?-He made no objection, oertainn
system of medicine, and the introduction of persons made that proposal, or that the interview was to take , too late at that time to have prevented
to the King ?- I I believe so. place ?-The Chancellor arrived on the following , had any objection been made by an!
There has been no person introduced to the King, I day, and it was then communicated to him. t skims.
whose introduction has excited any aggravated degree t Who introduced the Chancellor to the second inter. I Has Dr. Robert Willis any particular
of indisposition ?-Certainly not. , ' view with the King ?-I did. i King's person, more than any other
What is the state of the King's mental health to- IWho was present in the second interview with the I think not.
day, as compatednwith the state of his mental health King ?-Nobody but the Chancellor ; I left the room I Have you observed that the King
on the 25th of Q'ctoher ?-He is by no means so well when I had introduced the Chancellor to the K. I
ing. restraint before Dr. Robert Willis, than
as he was on the 25th of October. Did you know whether the restraint, you hoped ' other Physicians ?-I think not.
What is the state of the King's health to-day, as would be produced on the King's mind, by an inter- I Are there any persons before whom
compared with the state of his health on the 28th of i vie* with the Chancellor was in point of fact produ.l under more restraint than others, of
Octobee?-I think, not quite so well as it was on the ced ?-I have very good reason to believe so. i tendants, or attendants upon his person
28th of October. I Have you found; by experience, that any beneficial i Do you conceive the circumstance ,
You have stated, that there is an amendment in the effect has resulted from that interview ?-I really his Mejesee sight", to have any influence
King's health ? Yes. think it has. `upon tlie Pesent state of his nfejeso
Ifhe is not so well as he was on the 25th, nor so Have you, in consequence of that beneficial effect ' think, hitnerto, it has beenan advant
well as he was on the 28th of October, with what pe- having been produced, advised the renewal of the jetty is without his sight ; because we
riod do you draw your comparison of the present interview ?-No. to conduct him with less irritation.
day, when you say there is a state of amendment ?- I Compared with the state of the King's health on Do you think it will continue to _
The first week of November more particularly. i Tuesday, is his Majesty better to-day than he was , and will tend to promote his ultimate
Has tht; King had what may be called a relapse, i on Tuesday ?-I think he is much the same. , t When his Majesty begins more deci,,r
since the examination of the Privy Council ?-The I How long did that beneficial effect continue ? '
- I think it will be a disadvantage, b
King has had, what we speak of in medical terms as ' The King, throughout the dry, alluded to the con-; tain sources of amusement.
a paroxysm, since that time. I versation with the Chancellor several times and seem. I You hake said, that you never thougt.
Has that paroxysm been one of a violent nature ? ! ed to be a little less under the influence of those er- ' recovery would be speedy ; what partii
-It has been one of a violent nature ; but not of so : rors ; he seemed to be rather more easily dispossessed ' of time is within your calculation, when
long a duration as the previous ones have been. I onthosa delusions. I word speedy ?-4 speak of some weeks.
Has the remission, since that paroxysm, been so I how soon was that benefit lost ?-..-I do not thick it 1 How ni.t.-iy weeks ?-I cannot pretend
complete as it had been subsequent to the other pa- ' is altogether lost now. i - Can you form any thing like a setisfaci
roxysm of the same nature ?--f think not quite so i When did Mr. Perceval see the King ;on or since I ture, of the duration of his Majesty'' -
complete. I the nsth of October ?-I think it was on the 29th of i cannot.
Has sleep the desired effect upon the King, gene-1 October. I Do you think his Majesty's recopery
rally and constantly ; when lie obtains sleep, does he ! Was Mr. Perceval introduced to the Kin In 'I it the d.you were '
King, at is ,as you thoug it ay y
appear to be more refreshed, and to be more composed . Majesty's desire ?-His Majesty expressed a great de.; the Privy Council ?-I do ; I do not,
in consequence of it, than when he has passed nights sire to see Mr. Perceval; having understood that he I Majesty's faculties seem hi any respect
without sleep ?-Certainly; always to be more con- had come to Windsor to inquile after his health. 1 the-contiuuance of this disease; so .
posed after sleep., I Did
i you communicate to the King. that Mr. Pere perception is clear and keen his memory
Invariably e-I think so. ; covet also was at Windsor i--Yes ; I think so. the nest faculty usually observed to
Have any-of the Royal Family seen the King since I Was that by the request cif all the Physicians ?- to be injUied by his disease, and whin
the 25th of October ?-Yes. i With the knowledge of all the Physicians. (eel the effects of age, is sound and
Since the 27th ?-Yes ; I think the last time the Did they know that Mr. Perceval was to be intro- i meat
Queen stw the King, was on the 29th of October ; . diced to the King before he nas introduced ?-Yes ;1 .Has his Majesty had any' fresh access
and her Majesty was the last of the Royal Family who ! and concurred in the propriety of it. I der since you were examined at the."
has seen the King. I Were you present at the interview between Mr. Per. 1 1 stated before, that his Majesty had
Have any other persons, except his medical atten- ceval and the King;-Yes. I consider another paroxysm ut the disorder
dents, and those introduced by his medical atten- i How lung did it last I-I should think, about six I der prevails in paroxysms ; and I
dents, for the purpose of administering to his medical or seven minutes. ' I was a severe paroxysm, but of shorter
health or comforts, seen the King ?-Yee. I Was any beneficial effect
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At what period ?—..The Chancellor has seen the
King twice, and I think Mr. Perceval has seen the
King.
When did the Chancellor first see the King, subse-
quently to the 20th of October ?—I think it was on
the 29th of October ; bin I am not quite certain that
the Chancellor saw the`King on that day.
When did the Chancellor se the Los the second
time ?...-Last Wednesday.

As any L. or otherwise, produced
by that interview ?—No injurious effect, certainly ; I
do not know that I could state that any beneficial
effect was produced by it.
When was Mr. Perceval introduced to an interview
the second time ?—I do not recollect that any second
interview took place.
How lone did the first interview with the Chancel-
lor last ?—About eight pr nine minutes.
Was the ling wader any self-restraint at the fir 4

the others live been.
I think you also stated, that the reco'
paroxysm had not been quite so corn;
so complete.
Has the *emission of the disorder ,
,as the remission of the ilsorJer that
other paroxysms ; but has •
complete.
Does that circunntauce
all, With respect to dr: probv.Lic 4111.,