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,ofisin eonstitoents;he trusted the Honourable Gentle- time." This showed what ejtravagant ideas ...-
eau woods gike them credit for not having formed any entertained. upon the subject. He entreated the atten-
okfution without the fullest and most mature considera- !Soo of the House, and be would not`cittain them, but
lion. In the coarse of the investigation of the Emigre- it was of the o
tmostimportance that these enormous
n
iton Committee, cases of extreme and peculiar distress notions should be co
ecteds and that the dehision which
came to the knowledge of the Relief Committee then appeared to have taken hold of the publichtind should
sitting in the City of London, and this Committee of- be dispelled. Nothing was more certain than that Go-
feted to advance a such of money to relieve these unfor- vernment had never entertained any such project as
tunate sufferers by means of emigration, upon condition these Petitioners appeared to suppose; and in proof of
that an equal sum ',maid be advanced from some other this, if proof were wanted, he would read a part of the
quarter. This proposition the Emigration Committee report of the Emigration C mmittee. The Hon. Gen-
took
into consideration, and presented a report to the denim here read an extract from the report, which
li-
House recommending its adopron. From circumstances mites the class of persons to be assisted in emigrating
to which it was only necessary to alludelGavernment was to agricultural labourers, and from parishes whose ex
prevented from coming to any immediate decision. He tent precluded the expectation that they could ever yield
was happy now to say, that since that period a change employment to the actual number of labourers settled
materially affecting the question had taken place. There within them.
was a visible, sensible, agA stowing improvement in the Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN complained that- br
condition and prospected all the great' branches of ma- had riot yet obtained an :newer from the Right Homo
nufacturing industry. The change he now found to be Gentleman: He wished to know whether the Rip(
much greater than on a mien' occasion; he had thought Hon. Gentleman intended to present the Petition which
himself justified in stating, so much so, that although had been entrusted to him four or five months ago.—
wages were not high, let nobody need be without He rut this question to him as a Members t Parliament,
work. These reports hadaieer, received by Government, and not as a Minister.
and also by the Relief Committee.-In these altered Mr. W. WYNN did not know that it was in all cases
cumstances, and apprized of elle question which he the duty of a Member of Parliament to present a Peti-
should that night be called wren to answer, be had seen Lion to the House, particularly if he thought he could
some of the Gentlemen composing the Emigration Com- dispose of the Petition more advantageously for the
miner, and had asked them if in these new circum- objects of the Petitioners. He had, as he before stated,
stances, and aware as they had expressed themselves to handed over the Petition to the Colonial Department,
be, of the inconvenience of applying the public funds to and it appeared that it subsequently found its way to
the relief of local distress, if they would now have ex- the Committee, sitting upon the very subject to which!
pressed the same opinion as they did at the period when it related.
this proposition was made to them. They answered Emigration Society tbs.
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as might have been expected, in the negative, upon the Counties
Mr. MAXWELL moved that it be read at length, and express-
general principle that a minimum of interference on the ed his approbation of the open, straight-forward, and candid lan-
part of Government is tie point constantly to be aimed guage of the Right Hon. Gentleman.
at, and that the most pressing distress is the only apo. The Petition was then read, ordered to lie on the table, and to be
prodlogy to be offered for any ioterference whatever. He STANLRY presented a Petition from the Blackburn
could not omit this opportunity of expressing his high Emigration Society, praying for assistance.
sense of the services rendered to the community by the
CORPORATION AND TUT ACTS.
Relief Committee. The zeal, assiduity and prudence
Mr. PORTMAN presented a Petition from a congregation of
they had manifested, entitled them to the warmest
Protestant Dissenters in the county of Dorset, praying the repeat
praise. They had entitled themselves to the gratitude of the Corporation and Test Acts.
of the counts yas much by what they had suppressed as Sir H. PARNELL_presented a similar Petition from Abbots-
by what they had granted. It was oa ing to them that teat, lathe County of Gloucester.
a Petition to the same effect from the'
the pressure had been less severely felt, than at former
Protestant h.il
LDitsSejeres ofted
Hroly-upon-Thames.
Minds, even when the causes of distress were neither These Petitions were severally ordered to lie upon the table. •
so deep nor so extensive. He could not withhold this Mr. EASTHOPE had several Petitions to present
homage from the men who had undertaken so burden- upon the same subject. He lamented that the Right
some a duty and discharged it so highly to their own Hon. Gentleman at the head of his Majesty's Govern=
honour and to the advantage of the public. He should ment should have expressed himself so decidedly against
,conclude by sayipg, that he thought it the imperative the principles of religious liberty, of which he had beets
duty of Government to abstain from any extraordinary supposed to be the friend, and he more particularly la-
measure of relief now that they found if not the distress tnented that he should have done so now that he was
that the urgency of the distress was removed. connected with those who had hitherto professed them-
Mr. Alderman wAITHMAN said, that he believed selves the most zealous advocates of those principles.
the distress to be still very great. He wished to enquire He must remind the Right Hon. Gentleman and the
of a Right Hon. Gentleman what he had done with a House that the claims of the Protestant Dissenters bad
• Petition that had been entrusted to him a long time been constantly before Parliiment for the last thirty
ago, from a person who had emigrated to Colombia, years—that they were claims which merited tl eir molt
and of which he had a duplicate in his pocket ? serious attentive consideration; and he would also say
Mr. W. WYNN had received the Petition of the in- they were claims which would never be relinquishe4.l
dividual alluded to, which had nothing to do with that The Hon. Member then brought up Petitions for tbi
department of the Government with which he was con- repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts from the Pro-
nected. He had referred the Petitioner to the Colonial testant Dissenters of a place in Monmouthshire; of
Department. Chepstow ; of Ottley, in Suffolk; and of a town in the
Mr. W. HORTON said, that the Petition was'from a county of Norfolk.
person .who had emigrated, not to any of the British On the question that the last of these Petitionsbe read,
Colonies, but to Colombia. His statements could not, Sir T. LETHBRIDGE said, he wished to take that
therefore, come uncle, the consideration of the Colonial opportunity of putting one or two questions to the Cha-
n He had laid the Petition before the Emi- cellar of the Exchequer. The questions which he should
gration Committee, who had not yet made their general put naturally grew out of the answer given by the Right
Report ; but if the Hon. Member wished to take any Hon. Gentleman to questions which he (Sir T. L.) put
steps, he could get him his Petition back again. to him eight or ten days back, On Friday last he should
Mr. WOOD attiibuted the increase of employment have endeavoured to obtain the information he now
in the manufacturing districts to the extreme low price sought, but the Committee of Supply not having been
of goods, and to the great reduction of stock upon the gone into, he was deprived of the opportunity. It be-
Continent. He hoped the Emigration Committee would came the morenecessaty to put these questions now, in
pursue its labours, as this was a subject which might be consequence of what had transpired in another place.
•better investigated, and upon which a more sound opi- The House and the country had a right to be informed
nion might be formed at any other period than one of of the circumstances which led to the breaking up of
severe and unusual distress. He compared the situation the Late, and the formation of the new Administration.
of the manufacturers to that of a person in an intermit- His former question to the Right Hon. Gentleman was
tent fever, this, whether the. Right Hon. Gentleman had been in
Mr. CANNING said, that he apprehended he had such communication with his former opponents in that
not been perfectly understood. His question to the House, as to produce the offer of their support under
Members of the Emigration Committee related solely the condition of his being placed at the head of the Go-
to the application made to them by the Committee of vernMent? The Right H, nourable Gentleman admitted
Relief; and all that he had said applied not to the ge- that be had been in communication with those who
neral object of the Emigration Committee, but to the were before his strenuous opponents, and that he
separate and isolated object to which their partial re- received an overture from them to the effect mentioned.
port and recommendation had referred. It was, he believed, generally understood by the House,
Mr. BARING made a few observations in favour of that this was the nature cf the admission made by the
a general and permanent system of emigration. The Right Hon. Gentleman. His object now was to ascer-
distinction of the Right Honourable Gentleman was, •tain when such an overture was made. The Right
however, a very proper one. The Resolution of the Hon. Gentleman had a right to thank him for putting
Emigration Committee, of which he was a member, the question in a spirit of candour, and he trusted it
upon the application of the Relief Committee, had been would be answered in a similar spirit. He wished,there-
adopted unanimously ; but he, for one, should not vote fore, in the first place, to be informed when the overture
for it if it were to be put now. He did not know hots was made, and if, when made, it was communicated to
long the present activity in the manufacturing districts his Majesty? The next question he should ask was,
Might last, but by the accounts recently received, and whether such overture had been communicated by the
particularly those of this morning, it appeared that no Right Hon. Gentleman to his Colleagues, toall or to any
good hands were out of employ, and that there was no of-them? He expected such an answer as would be
longer any severe pressure of distress, respectful to the House aad satisfactory to the Right
Mr. PHILLIPS said that he concurred in opinion Hon. Gentleman himself. It was necessary to his cha-
with his Hon ,urable Friend the Member for Preston. teeter, and to the character of those with whom he now
The improvement, he believed, as yet was partial. The acted, that the circumstances of the case should be more
lowness of the stocks upon the 'Continent enabled them clearly understood. It was by' no means his wish to
to account for the long-cuiltinued stagnation, and at provoke discussion, or to enter into any further observa-
the same time afforded the best hope of permanent ac- tions at present.
tivity. He hoped the manufacturers would not be in- Mr. N. C ALVERT said he thought the Hoti. Baronet
doted by this appearance of prosperity to create exces- was going to say something relative to the Protestant
sive stocks, as they bad formerly done. They would be Dissenters, as the Petition related to them. He must
sore, if they did so, to occasion another similar revul. deprecate this mode of proceeding—(Hear). • And he
sion ; and, however cautious they might be, still alter- hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman would not offer one
nations would occur, He doubted whether a general word in answer to the. questions of the Hon. Baronet.
system of emigration was necessary for this country. Mr. CANNING said he should par.ly comply with
The great diflicolty of the question presented itself from the recommendation of the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Cal-
Ireland, whose redundant population it was necessary, vert). He must divide the speech of the Honourable
for the welfare of both countries, to reduce within such Baronet into two parts. The first related to what passed
bounds as might enable every man to maintain Limsel:-. on a former day, and the second consisted of certain
Mr. W. HORTON would not long occupy the House, questions now put by him. If the Hon. Baronet should
but as he had sonic Petitions to present v h ch wou'd not be more suzcessful in comprehending the answers
require an observation or two from him, he would take to his n..w than to his old questions; the time would be
this oppotturety of offering them. Tne Petitioners thrown away in answering them. He (Mr. Canning)
seemed to be led, away a ith the idea, that Government did not answer the questions of the lion. Baronet upon
had it in contemplation to remove all the people of this a former night in the terms he supposed him to have
country who were nor satisfied with their present wages. used. All he then admitted was, that an indirect corn-
One of the Petitions he had to present was accompanied niunication had taken place. lie had no letter or per-
by a letter from the Secretary of tie Society, which son. 1 interview on the subject, but a letter written by a
consisted of men of twenty dfferent trades, all desirous third person to his friend, was strewn to him (Mr. Can-
to. emigrate. This Secretary asked him how much ping) in confid.mc: arid fro n that letter he collected
n,oney wculd be granted to send ten thou.and Men their sentiments, rf which he made mention upon a
out of the country ?. and concluded his letter in the former night. The Hon. Baronet was greatly mist .ken
following words,, !' perhaps it will be interesting if he supposed th.t letter to be the only on: he received
to you to know' that our market of yesterday was containing offers of support. He would be greatly
'cry good t re, the best we have had a long mortified 'could he see them all. He received them 1

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