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pound his opinion in the form of a motion, that it
Alight become the opinion of the House.
Me. CALCRAF I' said, he never saw a greater
,*lood !•ucce:stlian when he had first entered the
Fro Vet that day. He expected, if not to cotry a ma-
jority with him on a motion for reducing the Esti-
Metes, to b joined by many who were anxious, like
himself, to check that military spirit which appeared
to he spreaditig itself over the country.
Mr. BROUGHAM animadverted upon the ob-
servations of tne several advocates for the prepesed
establishment, but especially upon those of the Noble
Lord (Castlereagh). He differed from that Noble
.Lord in his preference of what he called an economi-
cal S sff to an improvident Staff, because, as the
NAle L •rd st.oed it, the former was large and the
latter small ; and he also differed from the Noble
Lord ia thinking that any satisfactory answer had,
been given to the question of his Honourable Friend
the Member for Rochester, namely, 4, what vete the
reasolis which called for 87,000 men in 1817 todo that
which was done in 1792 by +4,000?" The Nohie
Lord ham; no doubt, maintained that an increase of
force was =essay to preserve the peace of o.e coun-
try. Dill while lie denied the necessity, be would
ask, why the Met, the Magistrates, and Constables
could n.it. be tieethed adequate to the prawn-anon of
the Peace ? I i the country were even distui bed,
Could net the G orerronent trust to the fa:: ccrti'al4: ,
Was the case come to this a-. last, that enthing could
b duo: witheut soldiers to protect the peace of Eng-
lastd—to maintain her Constitution, and to enforce
her laws ?—(111ar, !sear).—Was this then the fate
of England iii what is called, as the Honourahl:
trncler Secretary of Site (Mr. H. Addington) es- I
iiressed ti, " sotte prefitind Peace ?"---(//rar;.
ut dirt the Honourable Secretary mean to deny that
the country was at peace--. Did he deem it a millet-
vier after all the fel•citations atol conwatulations we
had heard—all the great big WI :els of panegyric t;:at
had been prune tinceJ toxin the merit of the Noble
Lord's diplummic skill—upon him whose merit was
so;much extolled, that one Gentleman attributed to
him, said nut to Lord Wellington, the gin:Ores vic-
tory of Waterloo—(of hush, end Hear, /ear) ?
Still a seemed that the Honourable Secretary sneered
at the Oka that the country was at peace. But the
Noble Lerd professed to think that we required a
larger 'liana?), force at -present, than in 1792, al
though he s.tiedged dor stovoior organizavon and
dtecipline of our army ; so that as the constitution
of mar army was in:proved throuoh the transcetidant
merit of our Comm.nel.o-in-Chicl, which improve-
ment and merit lie (Mr. Brougham) was quite wil
ling -to admit, so in:moot army was necessary—as
it was mtaded in quality, it should be increased in
quantity. This was indeed a sulking sample of what
the logicians called aan sequitur. But to return to
the state of the country contrasted with shot ot 1792,
who could pretendohat the apprehension of French
principles in 1792, bore any comparison to any dans
ger that the most timid could coejure up it present ?
In 179.: those principles were in the plenitude of
youth and vigour. They had not then languished
into old age, or been so stigmatised with' crimes, as
to revolt the justice and humanity of
But where were these principles now to be found or
feared 1 their lolly and mischief hod either consigned
theio to oblivion, or rendered theca liarrnl.ss. Yet
the Noble L, rd and the Honourable Secretary would
assert thetrezisteuce and power, in order to frame a
pretence for an expensive military establishment.—
Bet were these distinguished men in existence, who
were alarmed, he thought in the extreme, by French
principles in 1792, he had no doubt that they would
now se.lat every alarm upon that store. and plead
for the return and support ef old English principle.,
fur the tranquillity ot England t. as comploely to-
establisheJ. The Honourable Eccretary might, no
doubt, have letters in his office. from meny worthy
persons, who expressed apprellensfoes to which per.
haps his own feelings vireted ; but what was the fact,
tit the lotrQuarter Sevions, although the c :lendar of
reit and petty offences was unusually extensive—. .
although snore (Chinks and misdemeaneurs were on
the list in con.rquence of tire distress of the tin;::,
t'san had eve r appeared before, there were now ac.
Cully noire charged with sedition, or any state offence. !
IA proof of this fact he referred to the several Soo
sions for the West Riding of Yorkshire, of Lances.
ter, Liverpool, and Norwich ;. at the latter ot which
a, Jury, especially impannelled, decided directly
against the Report of the Noble Lord's Select Corn-
IMittee, as to the existence of seditious or treasonable
societies in that district. What then was the neces-
sity for any increased military force to preserve the
peace of England t Then is to Ireland, were there
Do means of overcoming the discontents in that coun-
try but ly a military force ? Could nothing be de-
tr:sed to conciliate the Irish 1 The Noble Lord and
°diets near hint could not surely answer in the nega-
tive, for thry :I:commended Catheii: Emancipation,
which they held forth as a fundameroat article ot their
politool faith. In this, nu doubt, the Noble Lord
and soine.of his neighbours were sincere, for it would
be impel liamentary to question their sincerity— (Thar,
Beer.)—Yet, if their zeal were real—if they regarded
the attainment ot this measure of paramount impor-
tance, was it not strange and incompreheasible to any
but those who understood political intrigues or Cabinet
management, that the advocates of such a desiroble
alsasu:e shout] hold lellowship with those who, while
they resisted them on that point, would not, he wa.
persuaded, be sufficient to held office :crone moment
if they vetoured to opense this extraordinary plan for
a huge ottilitary establisliment—;•( toted crier of Hear,
Iteer, r—The Learned Gentleman concluded
with a glowing Cernplilllent to the opinions of the
Noble Lord ne.r him (Earl Nugent), whose senti•
=Cita, althotty,“ they did not smell of the midnight
oil, were as touch %opener to those which the House
bad heard !tom the opposite side, as the spirit of
nohle-iiii idea manly inidependetice was to the lan-
Prete ut those who were shuffling and sneaking after
office--Vieor.lesee,hear.)
Mr. J. P. GRAN saw notice ei les Intention to move for
timhtio the period ot these Liuntatev, tritest the iiteport being
brought ep.
Th. areerai essioutions were agreed to, the Hoes. rowimos,
sad the I .g.tirl was ordered to be brought Up to-morrow.
(3. ti. ear 1 MORK I Ott postponed ins Moron fur leant to in-
troduce a Bid to abolish the practice of whipping WOilien pub.
akin, t it t holiday the et diatom.
Mr. bUMNEK rearmed a Pet,tlon front Mr. G. Farquhar-
son, of t• a Parish el Verstchurch, Surrey, praying to be heard
tqc kills-elf or Coon.al against that Pluish burial ground
etc er,r majority of the pans!), who bail hitherto opposed the