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thot talemen who'were connected with that Conn- 1,
try the itt erests of which he was particularly anxious
to further on this occasion. The Honourable Mem-
4ars to *horn he alluded were not backward in sup-
porting the metstres of Administration (Hear, hear);
but there was not tAte of them who would say that ,
thistax was a matter of indifference to them: on the
teary, they must admit that it appeared as a cruel
rieraoce on the landholderof Scotland (Near, hear).
at it was so, must appear evident, when he stated,
that the amount of duty for making a boll of barley
(bong about half a quarter) iss the last year, ex-
.seeded the original price of the article. He would
ay nothing more in the way of detail, except to
state rhea progress of those duties, as they had been
laid "id then leave it to the candour of the House
igoaceide whether it was an inordinate and excessive
hurthen? The Noble Lord then went on to slim
.t when an additional duty of ls. 21 per bushel
vas laid on English Malt, in 1819, there was a duty
of is. Md. imposed on Scotch Malt—(Hear,
Tbis increased duty, he observed, was attempted to
lakistifiid on the principle of correcting illicit distil-
lation; but it had no such elect.. Many of the Hon.
Gentlemen opposite could verify the truth of these
statements. It was, he conceived, a very wrong mode
of calculating, on the part of the Right Honourable
Gentleman, because he found some small districts of
land in Scotland, perhaps in the neigbbourhoc.d of
Edinburgh, equal in production to the best land in
England, to make his calculation on that land which
did not, in fact, constitute the one hundred and tenth
part of the whole account. lie took that scale for
the purpose of introducing the grossest of all enact-
ments, which he had no reason to suppose the Right
Bun. Gentleman would be willing to remove. Ile
had, however, conceived it to be his duty to submit
the observations to the House, although he had no
hope of making any impression on the Right lion.
Gentleman, after the obduracy which lie had dis-
played, for he could give it 110 milder name, on va-
rious other important occasions—(Hear, hear).
Lord G. CAVENDISII said, he would vote for
this motion, as one that would be of the greatest re-
lief to the landholder and the farmer: The trader
and the manufacturer could (what was vulgarly
called) keep their heads above water. But he would
ask if that was the case with the agricultural in-
tem!? Something must be done for the relief of the
farmer ; and this was one of the first acts which would
enable him to bear the burdens which had been im-
posed upon him. The landed interest and the prac-
tical farmer could not be better relieved than by the
adoption of the motion of his Honourable Friend, the
Member for Essex.

Mr. WODEHOUSE was decidedly in favour of
the repeal of this tax. Ile considered it as a mea-
sure necessary for the relief of the agricuhurist. The
land•owner had been charged with a desire to raise
the price of agricultural produce, that the farmer
might be enabled to pay exorbitant rents—( Hear,
inn). lie denied the assertion. Upon a fair calcu-
lation, light lands would produce about 40 bushels
of barley an acre. Such lands usually let for 265.
ta acre. He would put it to any Honourable Mem-
ber to say if that was too high a rent for the land-
osuer to receive? An Honourable Gentleman had
talked of the servility of the landed interest to the
elating Governrnent—(Hear, hear). The-Honour-
able Member might have used a more courteous ex-
pression—( Hear, hear). He knew not in what sense
it bad been used ; but he would say, in reply, that
the assertion was wholly unfounded-•-i Hear). The
Honourable Member then proceeded to comment on
the present state of the country, and to urge the ne-
cessity of a repeal of theta:, though in doing this he
intended to .impute no censure on his Majesty's Go-
vernment far proposing to retain it.
Mr...ELLICE explained, and assured the Honour-
ale Member he intended nothing disrespectful to
the Landed Interest in the expression he had used.
It escaped him in the warmth of debate ; and he
regretted immediately that he had used it, and said
thee, as now, that he intended nothing offensive to
the Landed Interest in the use of it—(ffear, hear).
Mr. HOLME SUMNER said that it was enough
to shew that two and two made four : the circum-
stances must be considered in order to make that
gropositina satisfactory to the mind. The war which
Ltd required the present heavy taxation had been
supported by the People. Never since man became
a pugnacious animal (,t laugh), had a war been more
cordially supported by the People--(Cheers front the
Ministerial Benches). He voted for the repeal of the
Horse TAX ; and he would vote with every Member
who proposed any reduction of tales (Loud cheers
fie* the Opposition) that might relieve agriculture;
yet he would vote against the present motion.
Lord FOLKESTONE expressed great regret that
the pugnacious disposition of the Hon. Gentleman
who had last spoken had induced him to resist the
Illation, notwithstanding tliie reasons which he had
given for supporting tt--(Hear, hear).—He (Lord
Folkestone) did not think that the repeal of the tax
mould relieve agriculture;' bat it would relieve the
tornmunity, which was a much more desirable result
—(Hear).—fie concurred in the arguments used
by the mover and seconder of the motion ; but he re-
gretted that those arguments had produced no effect
ma the Right }lon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
It was his (Lord Folkestone's) decided opinion, that
it vas impossible for the country to go on paying,
lie interest of the National Debt—( Loud and Arncral
citers).—.There might be circumstances where to
break faith was the only meahs of keeping good
faith. If faith could not be kept, it was not only
Atusable, but proper to break faith. " Nento tene:
ki off i, siiilut. rt might, therefore. be an act
of good faith to break faith. If the whole was to
be inferred to a part, if the substance was to be pre.'
lewd to the form, if the reality was to be preferred
to the appearance, the relief and security of the cono,
kooky were to be preferred to the wishes of a small
tan—(Eteer, hoer).--.This vkw of the subject was
?looming every day more clear to his eyes) and he.
"al glad to perceive that it was becoming daily
_tft.ao 'open to the observation of others. It was in-
-2'7411;1E161e with the security, peace, and freedom of
couatty, to keep what was called good faith with
Public creditor. Let it be supposed that there
*a. en invasion.that, as the Hon. General had
ILlted last night, the Congress of Laybach sent an
y to lavade this country, and that there was a
A 44teity to raise money to pay the interest of the
Ilis.ks "4 to toi'ol•the invader, would it not be a gross

darelictian of duty not to break faith with a part I
la
order to protect the 'thole- of the community ?--
(Great cheering, with some murmurs and confusion).
..-11 the interest of the debt could be paid only by
constant suspensions of the Habeas Corpus, it fol-
lowed, in like manner, that to preserve our own free.
dom we must break faith. He thought it right thus
to avow his principles He hoped, however, that
those who were disposed to support the motion would
not take the alarm. The best way to avoid the ex-
tremity he had supposed—and an extremity •it was
—the best way was, to support retrenchment, eco•
nomy, and) in short, to vote for the motion of his
Hon. Friend—(Hear, hear).

Mr. HUSKISSON was aware of the unpopular
task which that man had to perform who rose in his
place to oppose the repeal of a Tax, especially when
it was represented that the repeal would relieve the
distress of a great body of the people ; but on this
occasion he felt he had a duty to perform, and that
duty was to oppose the repeal of the Tax in the pre-
sent instance. He strongly reprobated the doctrine
of the Noble Lord, as regarded keeping the public
faith with the public creditor. He contended, that
faith ought to be kept inviolate, and impressed with
that opinion, he . could not consent, in the time of
public necessity, to give up a branch of Revenue
amounting-to upwards of £2,000,000 annually. The
Hon. Member then entered into various details, to
chew that the Malt Tax did not affect the agricul-
turist. This Tax was not like the Hop Tax ; it was
not taken out of the pockets of the grower, but was
taken from the consumer. Speaking of the distress
of the country, he apprehended no man would say
that taxation had brought the present pressure on
America, neither had it here. He was ready to
all..tv that the Poor-rates and Taxation were heavy
evils, but they were not the original cause of our dif-
ficulties. The Hon. Member then read an extract
from the Report made to Congress in America during
the present Session of Congress, which described the
distresses of America as greater than those of this
country, yet they had not thought of breaking public
faith; and he thought persons were disposed to look
at our situation with too gloomy and desponding an
eye. He was persuaded, with perseverance, we should
come out of the struggle with our honour unim-
paired, and with increased strength. He considered
our greatest difficulties as surmounted, and that we
might now look forward to a diminution of expendi-
ture, and a gradual reduction of ta• ation. . He con-
cluded by moving the previous question.
The cries of " Question, question !" which had beeri
' often heard during the Right Hon. Gentleman's speech,
became loud and incessant. In the midst of them,

Mr. WILBERFORCE said he was as anxious as
any man to see the public burdens alleviated as much
as possible ; but, at the same time, he was per-
suaded of the necessity of keeping faith with the
public creditor. He would not aggravate, unneces-
sarily, the burdens of the country ; •for he thought
the best strength of a Government would always be
found to consist iu the good will and hearts of the
People.—(Here the Honourable Gentleman proceeded
for several minutes, in the midst of loud and inces-
sant cries of " Question").-41e complained of this
interruption, and said, that Gentlemen who came,
down late should have some consideration, if not for
those who sat there patiently all night, at least they
' ought for the nature of the question itself. It was
not one to be disposed of in a cursory and summary
way ; it was not one they ought to proceed with
pedibiu ire in sententiam. He hoped the subject
would be temperately discussed—(Loud cries of
" Question").
Mr. MONCK contended for the repeal of the Tax.
He thought, as the rent-roll of the country was re.
duced, so ought taxation to be diminished. Ad-
verting to what had been said respecting America,
it should be recollected, that America had recently
reduced the salaries of her Public Officers, and the
numbers of her Standing Army one half—(Chars).
The tax was anything but an equal tax ; and he
could still less admit to the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer, that the repeal of the tax would afford no
relief to Agriculture. An increase had for the last
three years taken place in spirits and beer, while
a great diminution had taken place in the consump•
tion of French and other foreign wines—(Hear, hear).
This fact only proved that the different classes in
society were sinking in their station, and that be
who formerly drank wine, was now compelled to
drink beer—(Htas, hear).
Mr. LITTLETON would vote for the motion of
the Member for Essex ; but would never vote for
any motion that tended to infringe public credit.
Lord CASTLEREAGH did not rise to argue the
question at length ; though from the manner in which
it bad been treated by some Honourable Gentlemen,
it might appear that a new tax had been proposed by
the Chancellor of the Exchequer. The repeal of the
tax would not benefit the condition of the poor. At
the time that steps had been taken for the resumption
of Cash Payments, the public pressure had been much
greater. This was the third tax that the House, in
the course of the Session, had been called on to repeal.
Should the tax be remitted to-morrow, it woulG not
lessen the price of beer to the consumer. The distress
of America had not been removed, and as to the re.
daction of her Army, the whole only amounted to
10,000 men.--(laud cries of Hear, hear ! from the
Opposition).
Mr. K. DOUGLAS saw no tax that fell more
equally on the-country than the present.
The Cuauceu.oa of the EXCHEQUER explained;
Mr. Warrattw•replied, and the House divided, when
the numbers were—
For Mr. Western's ........ ........149
MOW ..... ......
Majority .......
The result was hailed by loud cheering.
Mr. WESTERN then obtained leave to bring in a /fit to
repeal the Malt Tat.
The other Orders of the D3y were then read, and the Hones
adjourned at hialf.past Two o'Clocb.

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