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that I know of. I have never put any limit' or re-
straint to your questions.

The Foreman.—l beg your pardon, Sir : you do
stop us very repeatedly. When we put questions
which we think very relevant, you yourself, Sir, have
repeatedly interposed to pi-event their being answered.
The CORONER.-.-But I deny that, Mr. Foreman,
altogether ; and you have no right to say so. You
behave yourself, Sir, very improperly indeed.
The Foreman.—lf I thought I had behaved im-
properly, I should be very sorry.
The CORONER.—And so you ought to be, Sir ; you
ought to he ashamed of yourself, Sir.
The Foreman.-1 can never be ashamed, Sir,
while I am doing my best for the investigation of
truth. Of that party I certainly am.
The CORONER.—Why that is the party that we
want here, where the truth is to be enquired after.
Mr. Blakie.—The fact is, Mr. Hanson, there was
a Gentleman here the other day, a Mr. Adolphus, a
professional Gentleman, appearing, as I understood,
for the same parties whom you represent. Some dis-
cussion took place upon a similar subject with that
which is under consideration now ; and the very sys-
tem of cross-examination which you are now pursu-
ing, is that which Mr: Adolphus expressly declared
he must solemnly protest against.
Mr. HANSON.—But we must try a witness's credit.
Mr. Blakie.—Has character anything to do with
the matter which we have in hand now? _

The Cc:snot/Kn.—Why every witness has been re-
spectively asked whether he was an architect, or
painter, and who and what he was. Why should
not the same sort of question br! put now? Don't let
us have any wrangling, for Gon's sake.
Witness.—l did not see the hearse at the time I am
speaking of ; it had gone round the Edgeware-road ;
when the shot was fired at Honey, I believe the
throwing of stones had ceased for about five minutes,
to the best of my belief; I had no watch about me,
and cannot swear to the exact time ; from the place
where Honey fell I could not see what WAS passing
in the Edgeware-road.
By a Juror.—Honey was on the pavement when
he fell ; he was opposite a door, not on the first step ;
I did not hear him say anything; I cannot say if he
had an umbrella in his hand at the time.

By another Juror.—l had been standing near to
Honey for about two minutes; I did not hear him
say anything; I did not hear him clap his hands and
cry out, " The City, the City." There were several
persons near me crying out several things, " Picca-
dilly butchers," and the like, but I can't say he said
anything. I saw no other Otlicer near Cumberland-
gate,' but the one who fired the pistol. When I saw
the ts.-o Officers, one going down Park-lane, and the
other who joined the detachment, that was before
the death of Honey. •

The evidence of the witness was then read over to
him, and, having signed it, he withdrew.
The Jury then separated (six o'clock) for about a
quarter of an hour to take some refreshment. On
their return to the room,
Corporal Colson was called in, sworn, and exa-
mined.--My name is Thomas Colson. lam a cor-
poral in Captain M.Neil's troop, first Life Guards.
CORONER.—Do you know anything respecting the
death of Richard Honey ?—No, not in the least.
By a Juror.—l was orderly corporal on the 14th
August. Ido not know what men Sub-Lieutenant
Gore had under his command that day. I am of
the C troop. Ido not know what men were out of
that troop on the 14th. I know some, but not all.
The first men I saw I ordered out. There were some
men of our troop wounded on that day. One had
his shoulder-bone broken; several others were hurt,
and went to the hospital. Only one remained in the
hospital. They were all present at the next parade.
It was my duty to report them absent if they did not
attend. I believe they were all present, ' but I can't
say. I can't say whether they were all present on the
next morning's parade. I can't say how many men
were with Lieutenant Gore. I was not with them.
I saw them in the barrack-yard, but did not see them
coming in. I did not see the trumpeter who was
with Lieutenant Gore's party that day. The trum-
peter does not belong to our troop. I don't know him.

One of the Jurors here said that the witness was
prevaricating.
The CORONER did not think so. lie was stating,
on his oath, what he knew; he could not say what
he did not know.

Witness.—l know nothing but what concerns my
own troop.
A Juror.—Do you know who was the orderly
corporal in the troop in which Lieutenant Gore was?
—I do not know. There were two; one fell sick,
and another relieved him.

A Juror.—Can you tell us the names of the ten
men who were with Lieutenant Gore ?—1 cannot.
Can you tell us how we might find out the names?
Witness.—l cannot: I can t tell all the names of
the men who were out.
Another Juror asked how they could be found out;
bow the names were kept ?
Witness.—lt was I alone who should have the
names; but I had not got them.
Juror.—How should you know if one of the ten
men under Lieutenant Gore had deserted?—l could
not know it till the next day.
The Foreman.—He has told us twenty things he
does not know; now we should ask what he does know.
Witness.—l have not got the list of the names. I
should know them, perhaps, if I had time to look over
them. I could not find them out in two days if I
were here.

After some questions on this point, and a short de-
sultory conversation, the witness said that it behoved
him to procure the names of the men if the Jury re-
quested it, whether the Coroner sent a note or not.
Witness's evidence was then read over to him, and
he was ordered to attend on Friday with the names
of the ten men who were out with Lieutenant Gore.
The CORONER here said that Mr. ex-Sheriff Par-
kins was in attendance, with his servant, and wished
to give evidence.
A Juror asked if he had been summoned, and by
whom ?

Mr. HANSON said, not by me certainly.
Mr. Parkins's servant was then called in and sworn.
The CORONER said they ought to have the master
first, as he was in attendance.
A Juror.-1t is immaterial to us here which is first.

The Comm.:R.—Yes, but there is an order and
decorum to be observed in those things. 11 my ser-

'vant were called before me, and I were in attendance
to- be sworn, I should consider it an insult.
The Constable was then sent out to know whether
Mr. Parkins wished to be examined before his ser-
vant ? On his return, he said Mr. Parkins wished
to be examined.
Air. Parkins was then called in and sworn.

Before he proceeded to give his evidence, a Juror,
who peiceived that no seat was furnished for the wit-
ness, appealed to the Coroner, whether an individual
who was sitting, and who was present merely as an
auditor, ought not to give up his seat to the ex-She-
riff? After a few words, the Gentleman consented
to relinquish his claim to a seat.
Mr. Parkins proceeded.—My name is Joseph Wil-
fred Parkins. I live at No. 10, Great Bridge-street,
Blackfiiars. I am the late Sheriff of London. I see,
Mr. Coroner, from the Newspapers, that you have
followed the plan, in the course of this investigation,
for very useful purposes, of taking evidence from
the commencement of this business, and I will pro-
ceed in the same way. On the morning of the
Queen's funeral, I proceeded from my own house, or
from my residence rather, in Great Bridge-street,
with my servant, to the Horse Guards—
The CORONER.— Does this relate to this business ?

The Witness.—You will presently have an oppor-
tunity of judging. When I arrived at Hyde Park-
gate, I saw a man clothed in a black cloak, who in-
formed me that the Procession would move from
Brandenburgh House. I proceeded, without saying
a word, or seeing anything worthy of observation,
till I arrived at Hammersmith, when I found some
parties assembled to join in the Procession, and there
I waited a short time near the door of Brandenburgh
House. I understood that there was some dispute
about removing the corpse into the hearse.
The CononEn.—Were there any troops there?
The Witness.—Yes, there were.

A Juror.—The whole of this evidence has nothing
to do with the subject immediately before us. Our
inquiry lies as to what took place at Cumberland-gate.
.The Witness.—Are you a Juror?

Juror..—Yes, I am.

The witness.—Then, Sir, I must tell you, that you
have no right to interrupt me. You must hear my
evidence as it is given.
A Juror.—For several days past, it has been agreed
to confine our investigation to what occurred at Cum-
berland-gate.
The Witness.—Then I must say, that this is a rude
interruption. I will give you information, Gentle-
men, and it is this—that whet, a witness is giving his
evidence, no Juryman has a right to interrupt him.
When his evidence is given, you may deal with it as
you please.
The.witness then continued.—After the dispute re-
lative to the placing the corpse had subsided, the
Procession moved forward, with the troops in front.
It went on with great solemnity and order till it ar-
rived at Kensington, near the church. An interrup-
tion then took place, which continued for some time,
it raining very hard. I then proposed to the Hon.
Mr. Bennett and Mr. Hobhouse, who were next to
me, to proceed forward to inquire the reason of the
stoppage; and when I arrived at the church, near
Church-lane (I believe they call it so), I found the
place stopped up with carts, dung-carts, and waggons,
and a great concourse of people on and around them,
who cheered me, and exclaimed, " That they'd go
through the City." I rebuked them for so doing, and
,cautioned them for making that disturbance at a fu-,
neral. Returning back, a man of the name of Piper,
who had placed himself at the head of the troop of
cavalry, made himself very busy, pointing out to the
Officer commanding. what was his liability. The
Officer and the troops all remained perfectly sta-
tionary. Lord Hood being very near, in his carriage,
spoke to me on the impediment and obstruction to
the funeral ; and it was suggested by him or myself
to send down to Lord Liverpool, to communicate to
hint the actual state of the affair, and the total im-
possibility of proceeding through Church-lane. I was
requested to bear that information to Lord Liverpool,
others having refused to do so. A Gentleman offer-
ing to accompany me, I set off with him. I set off
at full speed. When we arrived at Kensington-gate,
the Park-gate, a man in charge of the gate said he
was directed to refuse admittance there to any per-
son connected with the funeral. I informed him I
was on particular business to Lord Liverpool, and he
then complied. I proceeded with the same rapidity
till I arrived at the Horse Guards, through the Parks.
A little distance from the Horse Guards, I met Sir
Robert Baker with a roll of paper in his hand. He
was mounted on a cavalry horse, with two cavalry
soldiers on each side of him. I did not stop to speak
to him, but went on to the Home Department. Being
known there, a man tan before me to Mr. Hobhouse.

CORONER.—You cannot state what the man com-
municated ?

The Witness.—No, Sir ; but Mr. Hobhouse sent
me word that he was proceeding immediately to
Fife-house. Mr. Hobhouse did go before me to the
Earl of Liverpool's, where I saw Mr.Wilmot, who, I
think, said Lord Liverpool was not within. He knew
who I was well. I then informed him that I had
come from Kensington Church, where the Funeral
Procession was totally stopped, and that it was mo-
rally impossible to proceed through Church-lane. I
stated further, that if they did persist in going that
way, many lives would inevitably be lost ; and that
those who persisted in it would have to answer for
the same. Mr. Wilmot said he would communicate
that information to Lord Liverpool. The Gentleman
who accompanied me then retired ; and I returned
as fast as I could. I mounted my horse and waited
no longer. On passing through the Horse Guards
again there was something worth noticing. A troop
of the Life guards—a troop I suppose—was drawn
out, for it seas on both sides quite full, with three
Officers in the gate-way. I was obliged to request
they would allow me to pass. This may appear
tedious to you, Gentlemen ; but, by and bye, you will
'perceive its utility.
Mr. Brown.—We see it, Sir; you shall not be
hurried.

1 The Witness.—Much of your time has been lost;
but`if you desire information, I can give it you. I
proceeded on until I came to Kensington-gate, Park-
gate, and I found the Procession had passed there. I
Again turned and went through the barracks at
Knightsbridge, and overtook the Procession, or the
rear part of it, near the turnpike-gate, where some
delay took place, but I did not proceed forward to
see the cause of that delay ; and, after a short time,

the heat.* turned round and went through the ark-
gate. I followed it. I proceeded along with the Pro-
cession, following the hearse. At each of the gates in
the Park I saw soldiers drawn up. I saw six or eight
at each gate. Nothing nniterial occurred mita we
got near to Cumberland-gate, when an interruption
took place in the Procession. I proceeded forward
to see the cause of it. I was accompanied by another
Gentleman. The first thing that attracted my notice
near the gate was a man o the name of Goolde, who
was making use of very violent language, urging the
soldiers to do what he called their duty—that was to
,g force the Gate." I proceeded past him nearer to the
gate, of which I saw one half shut, and the soldiers
attempting to get it open. A soldier, whether of the
Blues or Horse Guards I cannot say, had at this time
slipped or fallen from his horse, and rather obstructed
the way. As soon as be was removed, the gate was
opened, the passage was free, and we all went through.
In passing through the gate I perceived a pool of
blood and water mixed. All the time I was standing
at the gate 1 heard horrible screams and yells, and
the most abusive language towards the soldiery. I
then proceeded on to a position at the corner house
' of Cumberland-street, towards Oxford-street, my face
towards Cumberland-gate, waiting for the hearse to
come through, not knowing which way it was to come :
when it was through the gate, I, being in front, could.'
see that the postillion and coachman inclined or drew
the horses' reins towards Oxford-street.

A Juror.—They were then in Oxford-street?
Witness.—They turned the heads of the horses to-
wards St. Giles's. At this time a man, you may call
him a Gentleman if you please, who was dressed
like Sir Robert Baker, in coloured clothes, and
mounted on a charger, came with two or three
troopers at full speed.
•

Conosea.—Do you know Sir Robert Baker?
Witness.—l do; and his conduct met with my ap-
probation. The Gentleman thus dressed rode with the
troopers up to the hearse, and knocked down a man,
who appeared to me to be an undertakers' man. He
seized the reins of the leading horse. Either he or
one of his troopers seized them. I will not swear
that it was not he himself; the hearse horses reared
up, and nearly fell backwards. ' Much altercation
took place between the coachman, the postillion, and
the party. At this time great quantities of stones
were thrown; it was the first time of my seeing stones
thrown; theyftew over from Hyde Park-corner and
the wall; many of them fell near me, who was stand-
ing near the corner of Cumberland-street. At this
time I saw a soldier at the other side of the hearse,
whether a Life Guardsman or a Blue I cannot say,
pursue a man with a flag in his hand (a whitish flag)
and cut him down: I saw the man rise again, and
seize his flag. The screams and yells at this time
were truly horrible; the stones were flying in showers,
all of which came towards Cuinberland-street, where
I was standing ; none from Cumberland-street, but
all towards it. •

By a Juror.—They appeared to come from behind
a wall or house, in a promiscuous manner, appa-
rently without any regular aim. Stones also came
from the end of Park-lane. At this time I heard a
dreadful noise, from the inside of the Park more par-
ticularly ; and, on turning towards the railing, I saw
the people attempting to pull it down to get into the
street, which they effected. By this time the hearse
had proceeded on into the Edgeware-road, the Gen-
tleman in coloured clothes on horseback, and the
two troopers, leading them on. I then proceeded
from my position at the corner of Cumberland-street
to the corner of Upper Bryanstone-streer, accompanied
by a Gentleman on horseback. We had not been at
the corner of Bryanstone-street one minute, before a
volley of shot was fired towards Tyburn-turnpike by
the troopers en massy : these were the first shots I
heard fired. I remarked to my friend, " What is the
meaning of all this?" Some one said, " They are'
firing blank cartridge," and two or three of the
troopers came from the main body, within eight or
ten yards of my friend, and began to load their pis-
tols. One of them, in great trepidation, let his am-
munition fall. A man picked it up, and I desired
him to give it to me, He did so, and on examining
the cartridge it appeared to bt, a ball cartridge; here
it is. I have kept it in my pocket ever since.—(It
was entered on the minutes, that. the cartridge was
produced).—The poor man appeared in great trepi-
dation. He then loaded his pistol, and presented it
through his arm at me, looking very indignant. I
called to him, and told him there was no necessity
for his firing this way, as there was no one offering
any molestation.
A Juror.—Did he make you no reply ?
Witness.—He did not ; but he appeared to feel
what I said most severely. The soldier then pro-
ceeded on. I said to my friend " I will move away
from this. I have come to a funeral, and not to a
fight." At this time the coach in which Lady Hamil-
ton and Lady Hood were, came past, and the former
called to me ; she was in very great alarm, and stated
that she saw a man shot close to the carriage.
The CORONER thought what Lady Hamilton said
was not evidence.

The IA itness.—l do not wish to persist in k as evi-
dence, but, by and bye, you will perceive that this
statement is essential. It is probable that you will
find it necessary to call before you the coachman
and postillion, and other persons who can state what
they actually did. It mitt' be necessary for me to
observe, that there were a number of ill-looking fel-
lows—thieves and pickpockets—l believe, belonging
to no party, who were endeavouring to create a riot,
to serve their own purposes. I might observe that
there was a vast crowd and noise.

By a Juror.—l saw a man cut down ; but whether
he was hurt or no I cannot say. I thought it an ex-
traordinary circumstance to see a man get up so soon
and grapple with his flag, after being knocked down.
As to whether the soldier cut with the back side or
edge of his sword " I can't give no information at
all." The individual who was pointed out to me as
leading the military on that day was, as I was told,
Colonel Cavendish, in coloured clothes, and not Sir
Robert Baker. The worthy Ei•Sheriff was pro-
ceeding with astonishing rapidity in a variety of
details, when the

CORONER interrupted him.- Ir was necessary to take
some" of his deposition down. •
Witness.--I know that the Gentleman in plain
clothes, who rode up to the hearse, when the heads
of the horses were to Oxford-street, was Colonel
Cavendish. This I know; and that, in trying to turn

the hearse, he trampled on one of the undertakers
Men. That is to my own knowledge and information.
Mr. 1-lAxsom.—Do you personally know Colonel
Cavendish?

Witness.—From the circumstances which I have
mentioned.

Mr. HA rism—How do you know it was Colciael
Cavendish?

Witness.—Because I aftersizakda saw a Gentlestan
at the barracks, and a Mr. Clarke (a Gentleman From
the EAst Indies) pointed him out to me, and told me
it was Colonel Cavendish.

Mr. Hatisobrlnform ation merely won't do. Be-
sides, I would not mislead you i Colonel Cavendish
did not happen to leave the barracks all that day.
Up to the time you remained in Cumberland-street
they were throwing stones?
Witness.--They were. Wheh T arrived at Bryan-
stone-street, I saw no stones thrown, excepting as the
Gentleman of whom I have spoken was going away.
When I was here (corner of Bryanstone-street), the
firing almost instantly commenced. That was the
first firing I heard. I don't know how long I was
going between Cumberland-stteet and Bryanstone-
street. It could nut be more than three minutes. It
might be as long, for I was some time hesitating itt
my own mind whether I would not go away and
leave the funeral altogether. In the course of the
pelting, I saw the soldiers struck, and that severely.

By a Juror.—Do yopy know who that Goold is?
Witness.—He was a shopkeeper, near King-street,
in Cheapside. .He was particularly active in urging
the soldiery to act against his fellow-citizens. I said
to a man " Look at that fellow; oh ! dear ; how
wrong he is in urging the soldiers against his own
class of citizens." I think it necessary to inform you,
that the populace, who are generally blamed for the
accidents that took place that day, were not so much
to blame as is generally imagined. There was a set
of low life blackguards and fellows, who attended
for to make a profit of the confusion and distress that
prevailed. I observed everything with a painful and
observing eye. There were many blackguards and
a few thief-takers.
The Foreman.—Pray let that be taken down, Mr.
Coroner.

Witness.—There were pickpockets and low-life fel-
lows in abundance. They threw stones quite indis-
criminately. It was the most monstrous thing that
ever you beheld. If I had had a pos,;e of constables
I would have taken them up; and I would have
taken care that there should he no necessity fer sol-
diers to defend themselves. There were ill-looking,
ragamulSkrascals.
Mr. Blakie.—Pray take that down.
Mr. Spicer.—Then you do not think the soldiers so
much to Wan*?

Witness.—Ercuse me, I do not know what to say
to that.—(Here the witness began a long and solemn
protest against the cruel misrepresentations which the
Newspapers had made of his conduct.)

. .
The ConoNen.—Aye ; but we have nothing to do
with that.

Witness,--A Gentleman in coloured clothes, who
rode at the head of the troopers up to the hearse, was
Colonel Cavendish. At this time I saw a man, with
a whitish flag in his hand,, cut down. The screams
and yells, were hideous. The soldiers were placed in
a situation the most painful, particularly for soldiers.
I wish you would examine my servant to-day, be-
cause I want his services to-morrow.— (Here the wit-
ness signed his deposition, and, having made his bow
to the Jury, retired ; observing to one of the Jurors,
that he wished he knew his name, in crder that he
might remember his civility.)
The Foreman rose with great pain to address the
Coroner. A certain respectable neighbour of his,
Mr. Poland, had been repeatedly summoned, and as
he did not attend he must move that a warrant be
issued to compel his attendance. He thought the
Jury were treated with contempt, and this Gentle-
man's evidence, on the other hand, might be material.
The beadle explained that he had found Mr. Po.
land very unwell.

Mr. Po-land was ordered to attend to-morrow.

John Thorn was then called.—l am a servant to.
Mr. ex-Sheriff Parkins. I know that, on the day of
the Queen's funeral, I rode down to Hammersmith,
and came back to Cumberland-gate. What I saw
first was a great many people; but I saw nothing
par titular before I came to Cumberland-gate; I there
saw the people throwing stones, as I believe, at the
soldiers. Then I saw the soldiers galloping about,
and cutting with their swords—cutting at the people
with them; but I saw no one cut. I went to Bryan-
stone-street, and I saw the hearse, in my way, at
Cumberland-gate. The people wanted the hearse to
go down Oxford-street, and were taking hold of the
reins. They turned the horses' heads towards Ox-
ford-street. I saw the postillions trying to go that
way too. I saw one of the soldiers galloping, and
he rode over a man. The horse went right over him.
I don't know whether he trod upon or kicked the
man. I saw him get up again; but don't know
whether he was hurt or no in consequence. Then
we got as far as Bryanstone-street. I saw some sol-
diers (one I should say) there. He was loading his
pistol. I saw no others near him; but I saw some
'soldiers near Cumberland-gate firing. I did not see
any stones thrown there. I saw some of the soldiers
fire. The soldier seemed very much alarmed who.
was loading his pistol. I thought he looked rather
alarmed. I did not see him iii used at all. I saw
nothing else. I was struck on the site by a brickbat,
but I don't know by whom. This was near Cum-
berland-gate. I don't know whether the soldiers threw
it. I did not see whether or no it came over the wall.

By a Juror.—The man I saw struck down, I can.
not say had colours or a flag.
The next witness was Thomas WheaMon, who being
sworn, said—l live at No. '2, Hertford-street, May-
fair. I am a coach-carver, and apprentice to Mr..la-
cobs. On the day of the funeral' I accompanied the
funeral Procession from Knightsbridge thiough the
Park to Cumberland-gate. I observed nothing take
place till it arrived there. I observed a great con-
course of people, who shut the gates. I was on the
inside, and the mob on the outside. The soldiers at-
tempted to open them, and did not succeed. The se-
cond time they succeeded, and got one half 0pev,.....
The other half remained shut. The soldiers finding
they could not open them, cut at the people with
their swords or sabres, I can't say which. I saw one
pan cut over the hat. Directly as the soldiers cut

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