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London, England, 1827-02-21 00:00:00

HOUSE OF CObIIiONS.

Drams (one of the Clerks of the House) brought up the
nameaof the following Members, as those chosen by ballot this day,
to decide upon the merits of the Petition against the return for the
City of Kilkenny :—Mr. R. Price, Mr. G. Smith, Sir E. C. Car-
rington, Mr. Corbett, Sir T. D. Acland, Mr. M. Bell, Mr. Wilbra-
lam Egerton, Mr. Spottiswoode, Mr. H. Maxwell, Sir J. Yorke,
Sir R. Hill, Sir W. Ingilby, Mr. H. It. Westenra, Mr. A. Dawson,
and Lord F. L. Gower.
Mr. Dyson likewise brought sip the following list of Members
chosen by ballot this day, to decide upon the merits of the Petition
against the return for Coventry :—Mr. R. A. Slangy, Mr. C. Wood,
Mr. S. T. Kekewich, Mr. J. Cocks, Mr. E. Protheroe Mr. John
Ramsbottoni, Mr. John Forbes, Lord Sandon, Mr. J:Fitzgerald,
Mr. Wigram, Sir J. Wrottesley, Mr. W. Ward, Mr. W. Burrell,
Mr. T. Estcourt, and Lord Ennismore.
Mr. H. DRUMMOND presented a Petition from certain own-
ers and occupiers of land in Scotland, against any alteration of tie
Corn Laws.
Sir T. LETHBRIDG E took that opportunity of asking the
Right Hon. Secretary of State for the Home Department whether
there was any chance of the question respecting the Corn Laws be-
ing postponed beyond the day fot which it was at present fixed ?
Mr.Seerstary PKEL said, he felt very confident that the promise
which he gave on a former night, namely, that the question would
be brought forward on Nlonday, the 26th instant, by his Rightlion.
Friend the Se y for Foreign Affairs, would be fulfilled. His
Right Hon. Friend was yesterday fully confident that the state of his
health would permit him to submit to the House on that day, the
propositions which Government had framed on the subject. As
be had before said, it was not the wish of the Government that
the sense of the House should be definitively taken upon those pro-
positions on the night they were ptoposed. The same course which
was pursued in 1815 would be adopted. Certain resolutions would
be submitted to the House, brought up merely preforms, and the
final decision of the Horse upon them would be postponed to a
future day.
Mr. BARING hoped that the Right Hon. Gent. would not feel
It necessary to come down to the House on the day mentioned at
any hazard to himself. (Hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that his
Right Hon. Friend felt it to be his duty to all parties concerned in the
question, and respectful to the House, to fulfil the pledge which had
been given, if possible. If he could not come down, he trusted
to the indulgence of the House to forgive him. (Hear.) It was,
however, his present belief, and that of persons most competent
to form an opinion, that he would be in the House on the day fixed.
Mr. HUME presented a petition from the inhabitants of Aber-
deen, praying for the repeal of the Corn Laws.
Mr. MACQUEEN presented a Petition from owners of land
is Bedfordshire, against the repeal of the Corn Laws.
Mr. F. WILSON presented a Petition from certain owners and
occupiers of laud in the county of York, against the repeal of the
Cori Laws.
Mr. FITZGERALD presented a similar Petition from the
Hundred of Welford, in Suffolk.
Mr. MARSHALL presented several Petitions from manufsc-
in various parts of the county of York, praying for the repeal
of the Corn Laws.
Mr. SPOTf IS WOODS presented a similar Petition from some
inhabitants of Edinburgh.
Lord MILTON presented a great number of Petitions against
any alteration of the Coin Laws, Irons the owners of land iu va-
rious parts of Yorkshire.
The same Noble Lord presented a Petition from the inhabi-
tants of a Township its Yorkshire, praying for the repeal of the
Corn Laws. •
The Marquis of TAVISTOCK presented several Petitions from
the owners and occupiers of land in Bedfordshire, agaiast any al-
teration of the Corn Laws.
Mr. DAWSON moved fora copy of the Fourth Report of the
Commissioners of Education in Ireland.
Mr. TA LM ASH presented Petitions from two parishes in Lin-
colnshire, praying fur Agricultural protection.
Sir W. I NGI LIST presented a Petition (runs two other parishes
in Lincolnshire to the same effect.
Colonel CAVENDISH presented a Petition from Derby against
the Corn Laws.

Mr. CA LCIA FT presented a Petition from owners and occu-
piers of land In Norfolk, against the new regulation of weights and
measures.
Mr. BROWN LOW presented a Petition from certain Catholics
of Monaghan, praying fur Emancipation. The lion. Gent. also
postponed his motion with respect to Orange wocessiuni, to Wed-
nesday the 28th last. on account of the absence of Mr. Gun!burn.
PUBLIC ACCoUNTS.

Mr. M A BERL'S% in consequence of the difference which had
occurred on chi preceding night with resFect to the estimates and
cash account, moved that there should be laid before the House
certain additional accounts upon those subjects, which would make
misunderstanding hereafter impossible.
Mr. HER HIES was prepared to prove that the statements al-
ready laid before the House were perfectly correct; and there were
p.pers upon :be table from which the Hun. Gentleman might gather
all the information that he wished. He should not, however, resist
the produ:tion of the new returns.
Mr. HUME would be glad to have results distinctly in the docu-
ments of Ministers themselves; and then they could afterwards
take no objection to them.
CHURCH LANDS IN CANADA.

Mr. W. HORTON moved, pursuant to notice, for
leave to bring in a Bill, authorizing the disposal of a
portion of those lands called the Clergy Reset ves, in
Upper and Lower Canada; a contract for the sa e of
those san.e land. with the Canada Company having
reeently been broken off. The Honourable Member
alluded to the fact, that the original Act of 1791, a hich
liad parcelled our these tracts of Clergy land, had been
intended by Mr. Pk, its author, to be open to revision.

The sale of the lands would not only ,
cultivation and improvement of the Cos
relieve the House from the necessity
annual grant for the maintenance
Clergy in Canada.
Mr. STANLEY believed that n
one feeling throughout the Canac
this question ; for all parties agreed
of the Clergy lands, in their pre.,ent
rated state, was a serious obstacle to improvement in
the colony. In one circumstance particularly, the
leaving these tracts of land lying waste, did great mis-
chief. The roads were kept up in Canada by a law
which c' mpelled every proprietor to make and keep
up the road through his own estate ; now, when a road
came to one of these unpossessed tracts, it must eiiher,
stop, or the parties living and holding in the vicinity'
of it, must carry it on, through property which did not
belong to them, at their own expense.
Mr. HUME supported the motion, and was glad to,
hear that the contract with the Canada Company, by
which all the lands would have been sold in one lot,
was broken off. He hoped care would be taken that
the lands should be so divided and managed by public
sale, that proprietors would have an opportunity of.
purchasing such lots or parts as lay convenient to their
own possessions.
Mr. LOMBE said, he approved of the measures ge-
nerally, but should be averse to any system of quit rents.)
Mr. WILMOT-HORTON said that measures would
be taken to have roads and other improvements made
and kept up through those parts of the reserved lands
which still remained in the holding of the Clergy.
In reply to a question from Mr. BARINO,
Mr. WILMOT-HORTON, said, that the Church
property was secured by the Canada Act of 1791,
which appropriated one-seventh of it in the manner he
had stated.
Mr. BARING said that he had the strongest objec-
tions to this appropriation of land in Canada, for the
Church of England. He was as zealous a member of
the latter as any man, and as anxious for its welfare,
but he cautioned the Government how thev proceeded
with giants of this kind, which were calculated to sow
the seeds of dissension and produce in Upper Canada
those sad difficulties, the ixcprrence of wh ch they all
deplore in Ireland—(Hear, hear). Well indeed it
would be, if they had any reasonable chance of making
either the population of Canada or of Ireland good
members of the Established Church; but when they
could have ao prospect of such a consummation, he had
very great doubts of the policy of church grants of this
nature. He would beg to call_ the attention of
Hon. Gentlemen to an answer given by the Attorney-
General for Canada, to a question put to him in a Com-
mittee of last Session. Tile question had reference to
the comparative number of Protestants who were known
in that settlement. The Attorney-General was asked,
''s how many Protestants sit in the Legislative Assem-
bly ?" His answer was 41 two," one of whom he was
himself—(Hear, hear.)—Such was the situation of the
Church of England in Canada, and it spoke volumes
upon the ',Obey of this attempt to root their Church
into the soil. Instead of promoting the Church of Eng-
land by such measures, they were taking the sure course
to undermine its true interests, and prevent the diffu-
sion of its belief—(Hear)—He concurred, however, in
the expediency of disposing of these reserved lands in
the manner now proposed.
Mr. WILMOT-HORTON explained, that whether
the mode of appropriation of lands by the Act of 1791
was politic or not, still it was the law ; but all he now
proposed was a certain alienation of the Church lands,
for the general improvement; so that as far as he west
'he was deviating from the provision which the Hon.
'Member deemed objectionable,. and rather acting in
the spirit of his suggestion.
Mr. WARBURTON said, that some provision should
be made from those lands for the education of the peo-
ple. He should think there ought to be no objection
to have one-seventh set aside for that purpose. Unless
they altered their measures with respect to Canada,
they could not expect that she would be a source of
strength to this country. He would advise them to re-
flect seriously on what had been said by that great man
Dr. Franklin. If, said he, in his examination before
the House, we are to sow and reap, but are not allowed
to ship our produce for exportation, I would advise you
to send out your ships and bring home the Colonies.
The people of Canada were allowed to export their grain
for one year. He did not know whether the permission
to do so was still continued.
Mr. STANLEY rose to explain. He by no means
approved of reserving so large a portion of land, for
what was called the Established Church of Canada,
but which was not in truth established there, no: did
he think it ever would.
Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN complained strongly
of the Stock Companies which had been established kir
colonization, and pointed out how fatally they had de-
ceived individuals, who had under their auspices gone
to Colombia.
Mr. WILMOT-HORTON said, that a general decla-
mation against these Companies had nothing to do with
the question before the House.
Mr. A. DAWSON said the system was originally a
bad one. The Act of 1791 was ridiculous. It provided
a mill on acres of land for the established Clergy of
Canada—that was, in fact, for a Clergy which did not
exist, and the lands were waste lands. The present was
merely an attempt to improve on an originally bad
system. How were those lands to be made productive
for the Clergy ? Were they to be let, as in Ireland, on
Bishops' leases ? There were no lands in the world worse
cultivated than such as were let on such a principle,
because, from the shortness of the lease, the tenant had
no induc. ment to improve.—Leave was given to bring
in the Bill.

all
which, except 83, were obtained by purchase; of these
83, over whose appointments the Commander-in-Chief
had control, 26 were taken from the half-pay list.
Mr. UUME then moved for returns of the number

of Commissions in the Army that have become vacant
without purchase, and have been filled up ; stating how
many of those appointed have been taken from the h.. 11
pay list during the same period.—All the returns ordered.

PRIVATK BUSINESS.
Mr. B. COOPER, to do away with the abuse too
prevalent, of Members voting upon Private Committees,
without having attended to the subject upon which they
thus decide, moved, that after a Private Committee on
a Petition shall have been formed, additional Members
may be added to it on special application; and that no
Member shall be permitted to vote who has not dili-
gently attended to its proceedings.
Mr. MONDAY seconded the Resolution; and after
a few words from Mr. CA LCRAIT and Mr. WirtzNs, the
Resolution was agreed to.

CANADA S&TTLZRI.
Mr. HUM E wishei the Hon. Secret at y (Mr.Wilmot-
Horton) would have offices established in Glasgow,
'Dublin, and other sea-port towns, for the purpose of
facilitating the conveyance of emigrants to the Colonies.
The grant of a million of acres of waste land to the
Canada Company, would materially promote the per-
poses of emigration, and the impro►ement of Canada.
The Hon. Member moved an Address to his Majesty,
for returns of Copies of the Grants of Waste Lands in
Canada; of the Grants and Sales to the Canada Com-
pany, and all other Grants and Sales in that Colony;
stating the numbers of acres, the names of grantees,
and the sums received and to be received, during the
last seven years.
Mr. WILMOT-HORTON said the returns were in
actual progress.—The Address was agreed to.

only materially aid the all the establishments of the coontry. To the effecting to say
the country, but would that object, he would move in addition for returns of which
cessity of making an the total numbers of appointments to first commissions millet
nce of the Protestant in-the Cavalry and Army ; and of the promotions to before
Lieutenancies, Captaincies. Majoritie., and Lieutenant that a
t there would be but Colonelships, in 1826 And 1827, stating how many of
for the
'trades with respect to them were effected by purchase or otherwise. tr
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eed that the existence Lord PALMERSTON said the number ri ant corn- fareat
sent waste and uaculti- missions appointed last year amounted to 56k, all of had b
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