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House, would only tend to excite angry feeling and to
produce bad effects. In the observations be (the Mar-
quis of Salisbury) had made, he was well aware he bad
done little justice even to the points he had touched
upon ; but he hoped be bad succeeded is his earnest
Jesus of giving expression to his sentiments, without
saying any thing which could be construed into as in•
tension of provoking irritable feeling or angry discus-
sion. The Noble Marquis concluded by moving and
reading the Address. which. as usual, was merely an
echo of his Majesty's Speech.
The Earl of WICKLOW—My Lords. in rising to
second the Address which has been moved, I feel great
satisfaction in thinking that the clear and explicit cha•
rimer of that document ha• left me in a situation in

which lit le can be desired or expected from me in
the nature of explanation. The va ions topics alluded
to are of such a nature as to ten ler a particular a In-
sion to each qu;te unnecessary. Indeed. I should feel
that I but uespassed on the p .tienee of pier Lordships
if I touched on more than a 'try few r I them. A, t
the state of our. foreign relations, it mm 4 be satisfactory
to your L, r.lships to learn that we are at peace with
the whole r f Europe, and that. from the friendly as.
mrances receiveJ by his Majesty from foreign Erwer.,
se may confidently look for ward to a continuance r.f
that international tranquillity. It as an Additional bless-
ing that, under the mediation of his Maje.ty, prelimi-
naries of peace have been agreed upon between the'
State of Buenos Ayres and the Emperor of Bras l—a

circumstance most advantageous to 11.i!istl commerce;
and that a Convention has been entered into between

our Government and the King of Spain. the probable
result of which must be the seiCement of those claims
of British subjects on Spain which have unfoitunatels
served as a subject of contest and jealousy between the
two nations; and, in relation to Portugal, while his
Majesty laments the suspension of oar diplomatic Tel&
tions with that kingdom, it may be some satisfaction t•
your Lordships to -train, that our communications with
that State in mercantile affairs remain in full fire&
But, as there is no British subject who must not feel •
lively interest in the welfare of a country char, for ors,
many years, his continued a close ally and ancient
'blend of England. it must be pleasing to learn that,
'through negotiations w ith the August Head of the
House of Braganza, our Government has interposed,
slot by threats or violence, but on such grounds as one
independent nation is justified in adopting towards'
another—those, I mean, of friendly counsel and ami-
cable negotiation. The Treaty of 1826. too, we ate,
informed, is in operation; and though war has broken
ens between Russia and Turkey, it is satisfactory to
know that the Treaty is its full twee. and that the Mo-
sea and the adjacent islands are entirely freed from the
presence of the Turkish Urce. It soul have been a
source of great pleasure to see the forces of this country
co•operating a ith those of mother kingdom, which we
have been long in the habit of considering a national
enemy, in relieving unfortunate Greece irons her gni-
seey, and leaving her in a situation to provide f.sr her
future glary. The financial condition of the country,
too, was much anseli r led, both in e •nsequence of
t e plans suggested bi tl.e Parliamentary Committee
ct last Session, and the improveoiens at the current re-
venue. And now, my Lords. allow me, to come to
that part of his Majesty's Speech which alledes to the
affairs of Ireland. Scandium here, Si 1 do, the Repre-
sentative of Ireland, and interested in her welfare. I
must give expression to the cordial satisfaction with
which 1 have listened to that portion of the Speech
from the Throne. When the condition of that unhappy
country has been usually brought before your L'ird-
ships, it has commonly been tot the purpose s f lament-
ing her distresses and distractions, or of proposing mea-
sures of restriction for her irregulalities—(Hear, hear)
but now the case of lieland is pr. sented to us fur a dd..
fermi view. We hate nor seaman, to hope that tho
measures of conciliation—Vhcers f nun she Wcigst—
those measures so long sought and so often refused, so
long petitioned f.r by millions of our fellow-subjects,
and so ably advocated by the first statesmen—that meat•
slue is now likely to be carried, not only bought for.
weld by • strong major ry of his Majesty's Ministerhi
but recoinnietwed to your Lordships toi a 'option is
his Majesty's Speech from the Throne—(Cheer.).
is true that another memo e, too, has he n r cons-
mended, and of a different nature; but surely ewe' yl
just thinking man in the kingdom moat long sincehavt,
felt convinced that the Catholic Associatio s must be
•uppreleed. Under its ba clot infloence the spirit or
social discoid has been diffused through the land, and
41) the ties of sovety dis•oli ed. 1 hope, brewer. that
that Association will commit one act of wisdom, and
dissolve tl ensselves--(loud cheers from the opposition)
—and 1 trust, too, that all other poh ical societies will
also disband themselves, and sink their pol tical dini
sinus in social national concord—(Vehement cheering
from all sides). 1 sincerely hope that this intended
measure of conciliation will meet the approbation of
sour Lordships' House and the whole country, and that
while the Legislatute confers relief on his Majesty's
It. man Catholic subjects, they will at the same time
take care to preserve those Pt oceans t a t tutions of the
mime which every man who loves his country will
peril his I.fe to defend, and which his Majesty, in his
Speech hom the Throne, pledges himself to maintain
unharmed and inviolate.--(The Noble Seconder sat
down amid universal cheering.)
The Duke of NEWCASTLE wiled to a k the Noble
I Duke on the Ministerial Bench • few questions as to
the Noble Duke's intentions on one topic alluded to ip
the Speech from the Throne. He begged to ask the
Noble Duke whether it was his intention to proceed by
snowing for a Committee to take into consideration-the
state of the laws affecting the Roman Catholics, or by,
bringing in a Bill?
The Duke of WELLINGTON said, in answer to the
question put by the Noble Duke on the cross bench—a
I have to inform him that it is the intention r 1 his Ma.
jesty's Government, according to the course laid down
its the Speech, to propose a direct measure for the ad.
justment of what is called the Roman Catholic ques-
tion—not going through a Committee—a measure tend.
ing to a removal of the disabilities imposed on the Ca.
tholics, with exceptions resting solely on special grounds,
and that to be accompanied with such other as shall be
necessary in consequence of the removal of the di..
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Tne Earl of WINCHILSEA—My Lords, I am
anxious to speak with all pope: respect of any com-
munication proceeding from the Throne; but I =no
own, my Lords, that it is with great surprise and heart•
felt regret I have heard bit Majesty's recommer.dation

for the removal of the Romeo Cwhol but

still with mere sempeise do I learn that such a en asure
is to be brought fbeward—!act by those who, by their
former advocacy of the subj• et, might be warranted,
in all honour and consistency, to present it to_ your
Lordships again, but by those who have been hitherto
distinguished for their long and unceasing opposition to
it. This abandonment of chair previous line co coudur t
appears to me such a gross violation of political c nsic.
tent!. that I will not give vent to my &ling. on the
subject, lest language should fall from me which future
reflection may condemn. But if the Noble Doke on
t' e Xlinisterial Bench declares that securities can be
found for the safety of our Piotestaut in titstti.m , stir ly
the Noble Duke is bound to state them foe ti e oofos hea-
then of the Protestant part of the conaniuoity,who think
that the Roman Catholic disabilties ought our to be r -
moved. If the Constitution is to remain es e nee le
Protestant, then I contend that no parains ought to be
admitted into the L.gislature or high office. of Sc. e
who are not of the religion est hilted by the Constitii-
lion but, if the Constitution is not destined to remain
Protestant. then, indeed, the Catholics-may be admitted
into power. Brt then you will destroy th.t C institu-
ton which is the ground took of all our liberties, and
has made us the envy and admiration t f
nations. My Lords, the character and principles of [ha
Catholic religion ate utterly inconsistent with the es.
istence of our free Protestant Constitution. I gust, ti et,
that the Protestants of the empire will me rowly ch
the details and the psogress of the intended Bill, and
zealously and fearlessly raise their united voices in de.
fence of the interests and institutions of the Est e I
Church, the dete•tion of which must denounce us base,
disgraceful, and dishonout able.
The Earl of ELDON said that he could not brim
himself to believe the present measure had been consi-
dered with sufficient coolness and attention previou.ly
to its being submitted for his Majesty's approval—yet
it deserved deep attention. It was, in his opinion. the
most important measure that had been broug' t before
Parliament since the passing of that Bill, * hick was
thought necessary for the pres-rvation of the liberty,
and security of the religion, of the triunity. From the
nature of the situetions which he hat Mies!, he
thought he should be the most unpardonable man
in existence, it he did not declare, on all occa.inna,
that if such a meas. re was introduced, net only t' at it.
was the most important, but the most dangerous. ever
submitted to Parliament. He telt that this declaration
was due from him tl his Sover ign—to his fellow sub-
jects—and even to she Catholics themselves. It in-
volved the security of the tights, libertie., and the sacred
institutions of Englishmeo, which was inconsistent
with the possession of political power by H. man Ca-
tholics; and he hoped his feeble voice would in some
way reach the ears cif vont E sglishnien w le-• loved their
saved Constitution, and who eli that the ssy;emary t f
PuttleSlAlltAST WAS necessary to the
p.eserva•ism 0: Vseir
liberties. He would never whilst he had lit c.sissci t
to the admis4 n of C .tholes to seats in P4,l.aturols or
to the enjoyment of high 'laces of trust in the Ex.cu.
five of the country. His opus inn wa., and he de.lared
.it most conicientiou•ly, that the day which 5h0.11.1 • t-
ress the admission of a single Catholic tea seat in ei.her
branch of the Legis'ature' nt to the possession of 4 (it 'CS
al trust in the Executive of the counts y. w uld Aso ak-
en . the sun of Britain. glory rising to set no in re.
rbe Noble Marquis who had moved the AdJsess hrd
complained of the exclusion of C•tholsc• ; but he. (I.,:rd
Elden.) cot tended that • very State had a cc fct sight
.to exclude from power all such persons as inaistat. ed
opinions inconsistent with the is at fusions t f the
State. It was competent for the S. ate so Jet Tonne
who should be considered eligible to offices t f 'suits
and this right haJ been ezetcised by tr- ry St to that
ever had existence—(Hear, hear, from Lard Holland).
They might cheer, but he (Lord Eldon) r feet
it—he would even maint sin that the king himself ( tud
be spoke this wish devo ed loyally to lass S ‘vereign)
could not alter the Protestant C n.stiiu insior the realms;
n the comtaty, be was sworn to support it. He, for
one, thought he would be guilty of a biessch of ttud,
and of that loyalty he owed his Sovetesetn, if he did hot
thu. express his convittior. No consult ration would
seam induce him to consent to allow Catholics sit in
Pailsament, *bete they would have the -poster df
making lasts, aff ctiog the Pootestant-Cunstirozson of
this country. With respect to the in as tie fn lotto%
Joan the Catholic Association, he would so, ti as et the
Noble Duke thought such a memos* necessai y lair the
unetests of the co story, those intesests fia.l teen
strangely neglected dining toe last Se lion of Par w-
=ent ; and as to the Noble Maiqiiis's notions respecting
the Association. he must say, that he did not c a islet
it capable of one .e. of siaim. It was a 'natter of
surprise to him, that such a S..cie•y should It sire been
pesmitted, for two or three year., so vend se.•iii:a erof
treason through t: e land. The Noble Lord (Wicklo • )
Lilted of tie Catholic Association as if he caroled it
would disperse of its own accord. H • (Lord E:d n)
did not believe they would do any such thing. He dil
not anticipate improvoinei t f oat thew. He never saw,
on any occasio.o. any symptoms of good sense about
that body. The Noble Lord also talked of abolishing
the forty ahilling freeholders. Did the Noble Lord re-
collect the language of some of the m• tubers of the A.
satiation, sbo had declared itiat the atteno
the people of Ireland of this privi:ege
sidertd by them as the signal foe their ,
in Isis opinion. the admission of Cathoh

uld deprive his Majesty of some
rights which were invested in the House
on their accession to the Throne. That
place on the express condition that the '
s'itution, as established at the limit
preserved inviolate. Hi, gratitude to
Soveteign, and to the Sovereign who
him Anxious, independent of other motif
the rights of the Crown, •hich he
infringed upon, and the sacred Constitution
try. which he thought endangered.
Earl BATHURST said, that there
vidual in that Mouse, for whom he entertain
feelings of respect than the Nilsle
(Eldon); but he must observe, that
possible to come to an amicable adjustment
lerences existing between this Kingdom
both parties, for and against, did not
with temper and moderation. Pas ing
which had just been made, he would
of their Lordships to the situation in
stood. lie had always thought that i
as Emancipation was to take place at

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