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grivings, price Bs. in boards,
APRACTICAL TREATISE on thy INSTRUC-
TION *ad AMUSEMENT of the BLIND; calculated
to promote their personal happiness, Sind enable them to employ
themselves with profit and advantage.
By Doctor 0 U I LIM,
Chief Director and First 1 hysician to the' Imperial and Royal
Institution for Educating the Blind at Paris ; Member of dig

Institute, &c. &c.
This is a Work sacred to Philanthropy; and its appearance in
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fr. a-411.

TOLLS.

On the motion.that thet,Rmio. rt-ef Ake Committee
ton the t3datgow and Carlyle Road Bill: alOsiekrbe
taken into cbmideration, ' 4 " •el !"1

IMr. CORWEISI Tose • and said. that 431: wished to
call the attention of the Home :to I. circumstance
which he conceived. to be as grosii t violation* the
Constitution as any that cculd •be ancciveds in a
Committee upon- a Ttunpike, Bill, it had casually
• ' • -ledge, that .a•elause Nas introduced
the membcra of•.the Royal Family
Toll. Ir would be in the recollec-
, that_about thirty ,yeats agp such
first granted to the Brown; asset to..
. did norSeel any objection,-because
consonant wah the dignity, Allich
it. Durin7 thr lan three Teats a
similar esetuptionsi every issenhcr
aviary ii-nct- +been, introdeccri into the
antic- this• cistuse•avnsi so
age' scetheireeyrd
...dritertemitiheit fativanlifattid
thus .enabled to citrry their gods

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?seeable station to me : irol2l
a person, whose pains, for Thb day wiis published, I. 12mo. with Engravings, pare, any one of whose members is nvea nep or civet. nue iiiegiai.,..,.. ii.a
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was most cfuelliAefraudiOiof , , and a coloured nee, price Ss. • • Printed for Richard Phillips; sari iold by J. Flouter, 25, St. t,ook it for granted that he (sir 11
isfortunet followed...-•want of VAIMILIAIt LESSONS on MINERALOGY and •Patirtt Church-yard; W. HighanN. ck4welllwtat,4 pad! w_au
ebe was upon the point a fur- 4: make the same reply as be.hati
OTOLOGY explainity the easiest metcods of discrimi. Booksellers: • • paions,—..-Motion grants's:l.' *,
ly witted Wt a paralytic acting 'Alinerals, and the Earthy Substances, counnpnly called . EATON ON •DESIMTS--,•:; s•J.r. - r...,--.. : •
nsation pf Paov)pascs, be has MPTION OP Elifriell'Al;Sal
Rocks, M.risich compose the 1% imitive„ Secondary, Fkrtz or Flat, This day was „bushed, ark, zw. ted. a
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subsistence to the exertions of and Alluvial Formations • towhich is added, a description of the URAL:TIC AL OBSEELYATJOA ••gli .#l9
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supported his father and t
his Laisiduwa• Appratues &c.:
is of the timet has thrown tByJ. If AWE. --, • , -Ii LULU, natural and contracted, nfthe,GENMAttitg • fhi- the Mai. oirthat the lieFic
ORGANS of both Sexes; inciedibt Remarks da-Onanient, tie- on the Glasgow and Carlisle
oa ir.ay, therefore, picture to Printed jot. and sold by the Author, 149,‘Strandi saefor
arable fainily, iiserted bytheir Lon.grmui, Hurst, Rees, Orme, and grown, 1,o:•don. riiiiiii Viceakness Nocturnal Etallelotai, Gleees Mine poisiss. taken into ebnsideratio 1
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itiostrions. wive ypung Sails las. -Boards. , , Late of the United Hospitali Of St. Thomas'. iiiliAllki.e* .• which he conceived• to be as gr
in a Iterchabes, lianker's, or
7,..„ new) escriptive Catalogue of Minerals, third edition limo.
Printed fOr'W. biselj., 7iii • lainitiaid-street; and 0101904 Constitution as any that cculd •
My prewar* *it • ulnae relief Catnmittee upon a Tuinpike,
and I true that' this appeal to day was p teed, in TwO larye Volumes, Qnarto, :,. i. C 11104.011 indigeston, *crof.ulea, !ma Catania./ .90.111 r, dowe to 1:t kt .1.... A 1.,
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- t • ftatn payrnent 4 Toll. It woo
rf• the sail:rasa:lli of rein:tidy -ENGLAND, See. collected out it filkanoirs wilt:of Isis
* - MUNTER,ACT the mapy• pittenipts.'""--, axe tibu of the House; that_ 1
•,:sistures,'.4ilo.; 'but for thfer own !rand, together with the King's Advice to handl..., 0044,
• •• . . •to to c 1 . riaily made to impose on *bit, ;,.. .. . all U SII
std' U itly farther induicittent Ittik:sres*Wili.. • • ,•a esemcition wit; first granted
that noble *masa in Scripture. . _ Published by cpmenand of ills TloyallEglittes. ,
_._s th_erehlit. iiielacQ4ool:4o4, ingK_aci- <4 OK 9 z4i 6 . ; AC !
arrd!AT DAY and WAIITIN; •.-* '' . tddpiti - Osio erseMption he did nor Seel i
xra, Ana g soili to tare ';getif, fro?* the original Stuart litailli.ttetPtiteltis37:i!".T.Tr__ .
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.. 111.easosalisausai isltwomposithistiviorosild -: ,
Wiese. a ranting -a similar eaetui
t, Itcyaisatc.*: Mr. tisottiviti ElVerPiter to the liangi CliaPlahs to alle.gou -I'm' 16)4400041040" tif*Aws.*44
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larder. Mav to. tall. - ili the' chaise( ;lug wiJiioV.eign. at VC ls."add is. Ild. ea ''-* - - " *• -

Alderman WOOD observed, that as the Collector
wive Ellw of those Funds was a Member of the House, and now 1 1
•absent upon leave, it might be perhaps-as well if the k 1 , 1
sTttUC- Honourable Gentleman deferred his Motion till the
calculated return 9f the Gentleman to whom he alluded (Sir
to employ
William Curtis).
' M. HOLME SUMNEII replied, that for several
\ iti
and Royal years previous he had always communicated with
lber if tht the worthy Alderman in question before he moved ,-1 II '
for these Papers, and the worthy. Aldo:Man 'had al- I„
pearance in I I.f
in the Ent- ways expressed his readiness to &seethe= .He bad , .
not mentioned his intention to him thisyrtiri.as he ; i 1
Pt, 73, St. took it for granted that he (sir liV.illitmCurt)s);wouid
Pd! by all make the same reply as be.hag toade;cat former ocf i• i
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. rasions,__Motion grautecl.• !., ' - • .
4.tinn
of- EXEMPTION Ur VirataiAl;l"Mitl.lt 1141.1 TU111011E1! 1
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ftrAlitvg • On• the motion that thwßeport-trf_dseComroittee
',arum., lie- on the Glasgow and Carliale Road Bill: shonlel-be •t
6, ISrttlii, taken into comideration, •', ~ .4, .=.-. • , ( IW
i • •Mr. CURWEDI rose' and said that be wished to
rand;• call the attention of the HOINC to a circumstance ,J'
I ?illy's. ' which he conceived• to be as gross a violation of the 1
CirchlOY, Constitution as any that cculd •be a:nccived. In a -
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, ' Ciumm,inee upon a Tu:npike Bill, it had casually 1 I
pisrsss, 1
`id.
_S, 0,3 come to his knowledge, that a-clause Nas introduced
sc,"ss. into it etempting the mamba:,; of the !loyal Family
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that from payment re Toll. Ir would be in the recollec-
-3 are firm of the }louse; that..ubent •thirty !..earsago such I
,EiAlicit)N-"INGS an exerntltion wits first granted to the Cros,-n; alai to ,
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pita a n..nv this exemptinn be did noKfeel wry objectioa,-hecwse , ,
he Adniught it consonant with the dignity. Aitich 'l' _ '
1 • ; catkin to surround it. DuriaTtlurlatt them Tests a , r
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by Ohm* Turainket Mar; , ardb,thts. chtuscawtas, so
IMislif AtiAllkil, • that ltribViuserelyttsfeitalei. to Aitififtyr.l
PlON't 14t6 F.invili,illist Sire* NAttet‘tertsiofrsiimii wsivatibtlittd
''t* °"' de -thrillers, who ware thus.enabled to tarry their goods
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DROGHEDA ELECTIoN PETITION.
Mr. BRAND presented a Report from the Com-
mittee sitting on the Drogheda Election. •
The Report was brought up and read. It stated, ,
that Sit THOMAS MOSTYN had written a letter to the'
Committee to inform them that he was too ill to at-
tend.—The Report having been read,
Mr. BRAND moved, that Di. Neill, the Medical
Attendant of &r THOMAS MOSTYN, be called in and
exanar.ed.--Agreed to.
Dr. NE.H.t. was then called in, and expressed his
opinion, that Sir THOMAS Mosryx was too ill to at
tend Vie House at present, but that he conceived he
would be able to do so in a week.—Dr. NEILL hav-
ing withdrawn,
Mr. BRAND moved, first, that Sir T. Mostyn
should have leave of absence for a week and se-
condly, that the Committee should adjourn their Sit-
tings for that period; both which motions ware car-
tied in the affirmative.

BRITISH MUSEUM.
111'. BANKES moved that there be hid before the
Mouse an Account of the Income, and Expendittr,
'tithe British Museum in 1818, of the estimated Ex-
penditure for 1819, of the Sums necessary to defray
the same, aud of the Number of Persons who had
visited the Museum during the Seven Years finishing
in March, 1819.—Agreed to.
Mr. KEITH, from the British Museum, then pre-
seated an Account of the Number of Persons ad-
mitted, which was laid upon the table, andtirdered
to be printed.

FIRE-ACT CLERGY.
Alderman WAITHNIAN said, that he rose to
more for the production of three sets of Papers,
whiCh were necessary to elucid tte the Committee
row sitting upon the Claims of the London Fire-Act
Clergy. Ile should not preface his motion with any
remarks, but should simply move, that there be laid
forthwith before the House-Ist, An Account of all
the Income and Emoluments arising from Tithes,
Er:o,Bm. of the various Incumbents of the Out.
14arishi* in London, together with the Expenses, if
ant, incurred in collecting the same ; 2d, A Similar
Account of the Income of the various Incumbents in,
Soirthwark, and its Si: Parishes ; and, 3d, The same
Account of the Income of the Clergymen in the Nine
Parishes in the Liberty of Westminster.
The SPEAKER observed to the wurthy Aldeh
man, that there was no occasion fur the word
forthwith" in his motion, as it was the bounden
duty of every person to pay immediate attention to
the Orders of the House.

Alderman WAITHMAN owned the correctness
of the Speaker's observation, and withdrew the word
4,fortheriski."—On the question being int.
IItr.HOLME,SIJMNELI observed, that although
behad heardthe motion, he had not heaidany rea-
soft urged for the granting of it.
. Alderioan WAITHMAN did not wish to take up
the time of the House unnecessarily, but as he was
that called upon, he must explain the reasons of his
tosidact. Every body kliew that an application was
ativresent before Paeliament for an Increase of Sti-
pend to a part of the Clergy of the Metropolis ; or,
in other words, that there was an intention, on the
Clof the Clergy to levy a heavier Tax from the
ew of London than that which was already im-
posed upon them for their support. The present
motion was not a suggestion of his own, but of those
whose interests would be materially affected, if the
Increase of Stipend which the Clergy asked should,
by any possibility be granted. The object of it was
to chew, that though the Parishes in London were
much smaller than those in Southwark and West-
minster, they afforded greater emoluments to their
different Incumbents than the Parishes in the two
(*her places. If, therefore, the claims of the London
Clergy were allowed to be such as entitled them to
receive an increase of Stipend, the Claims of the
Clergy in Westminster, -Ind other parts of the King-
dom, ought certainly to be taken into the serious
consideration of the House.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM maintained, that the'
worthy Alderman bad not shown any satisfactory
- for calling upon the Intumbents in V'estinin-
give an account of the Profits and' Emolu-
of their respective Livings. %Inteller might
, amount of them, they had nothing to do with
case of the London Clergy. Those Reverend
-.men had, in compliance with an order of the
Committee, given in a Return of the Income which
• derived from• their several Benefices. This
to have satisfied the opponents of their claims;
did no such thing; they even wished the Corn-
to order the Clergy to present them with a
, of the Income they derived from their private
resources ; but such a request the Committee had
, unanimously rejected. The Honourable &-
then said, that out of common courtesy the
Alderman ought to have given him notice
nnutiia.which he had just made. It wascom.
-Upallaseideit that lee had cane into the Rouse
ire tisibresthy Mambo mai ougsing it.
DUNDAS *coed to the granting of this

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to market without being liable to that Tax which f to. make a disclosure of their private circumstances
every other person in their situation was obliged to fad the benefit of anothei piety with whom they were
ray. He was sorry to say, that in some parishes the totally unconnected.
furnpike Tolls had even been increased, owing to Alderman WAITHMAN had no objection to with-
this exemption. The_ time was how arrived when • draw his motion for • the present, as appeared
this method of proceeding, which was as unjust to likely to be a strong opposition to it.
the Ptiblic as it was injurious to the Constitution, Mr. Rotate Stamen made a few observations in
ought to be stopped. If a Committee of the House censure, and Mr. BENNETT a few observations in de-
had struck opt of "a Turnpike Bill a clause which fence of the conduct which Alderman Vi'aithman had
would have exempted from payment of the Toll the pursued on this occasion.
Curate of the Parish, who was obliged to pass through
Alderman WAITHMAN then withdrew his me-
the gate before he could reach the church where h
tion, but gave notice that he should bring it on again
had duty to perform almost daily, he did not see with' rn.inn w_
what juitite they could extend an immunity like the
present to the members of the Royal FaMily. He
should therefore move that this Bill be recommitted.
In the Committee,li should move that the clause of
exemption for the Royal Family should be struck out
of the Bill. If that Motion were not acceded to, he
should then move the striking 'out of that part of the
clause which exempted, the carts, waggons, wains,
and drays, even of their most menial domestics. .
After a few words from Mr. STUART WORTLEY,
the Bill was ordered to be recommitted.
Mr. CURWEN then rose, and said that he would
oppose every Report of every Bill which contained
,such a clause, as it could not be justified upon any
constitutional principle. He therefore hoped that at-
tention would be paid in the proper quarter to the
intention which he had just expressed.

BOROUGH OF PFHRTIC

Mr. GRENFELL having risen to move that cer-
tain clauses of the Sinking Fund Act be read, prepa-
ratory to his motion on that subject,
Sir C. BURRELL claimed the precedence for his
motion, that the House resolve itself into a Com-
mittee of the whole House on the•Penryn Election.
Bill, and do examine witnesses, as he had already
postponed it, and the witnesses were detained in town
at a great expense.
A short discussion arose on the question of prece-
' dente, and it was ultimately settled that the Penryn
Committee should come onfirst,and Mr.Gntsrett,es
after, if time would allow ; or if not that it should
be postponed till to-morrow.
Mr. W. WYNN remarked, that it was a standing
order that all strangers should be excluded ; if it were
found, after this warning, that any of the witnesses
had continued in the House, it would be treated and
punished as a contempt.
The SPEAKER then put the question, and
Mr. BARHAM opposed the Speaker's leaving the
Chair, on the ground that the Housd was proceeding
without any principle being settled. It was a contra-
diction in terms to say that a principle could not be
defined. In the case of Grarnpound it was clear, but
here no facts had been established ; and if the House
went into the Committee, it would run .the risk of
exposing itself to a decision which it might at some
future time have great reason to regret.
Sir C. HAWKINS was reading an address to the
House, when he was interrupted by
Mr. I3ANKES, who said that such a proceeding
was contrary to an universally received order.
Sir C. HAWKINS apologized, and begged of the
Hot:re, as the grand inquest of the kingdom, to ac,
with deliberation and impartiality.
Mr. MANNING urged, that no parliamentary
ground had been laid for the Bill ; no resolution of the
Committee or special report was before the Huuse ;
and the lion. Mover had not condescended to give
any reason for the measure he had introduced.
Sir C. BURRELL said, that after what bad al-
ready 'passed on the second reading of the Bill, he
thought to re-state reasons would be waste of time.
Mr. PENISON remarked, that the Committee
had acted upon what was proved before it—bribery
had been clearly established against the sitting Mem-
ber, though one link was wanting in the evidence
against the petitioner.
Mr. C. lIARV4Y denieckthatiehad been at all
made out against the petitioner.
Mr. DENISON referred to certaikland-bills which
were wanting, and which would cOmplete the chain.
Mr. HOLFORD contended. that the Hon. '4eniber
had mistaken the point about the hand-bills; two
casts only were attempted against the petitioner, and
neither of them were made out.

The House then resolved itself into a Committee,
Mr. Beocoem in the (,'hair.

On Si. CH ARLES BURRELL': moving that Mr.
Thomas Toy be called,
The CHAIRMAN stated, that the witness could
not at that present moment be found. lie begged,
therefore, to know whet; er the Hon.-Member would
proceed, or call another witness.
Sir CHARLES BURRELL said, that he must be
allbwed to express a doubt, whether the witness called
had not kept out of the way or. purpose ? His evi-
dence was very material, and he really felt that a ne-
cessity existed of examining him first.
The CHAIRMAN understood that the witness had
been in attendance for three hours and upwards, mid
apprehended that his absence was merely accidental ;
he then demanded whether thewitness was still absent?

The Serjeant-at-Arms reported that he had r.ot Yet
appeared.—After an interval of some length,
Mr. W. WILLIAMS asked if there were any means
of ascertaining, and if there were, he should like to
be informed what had become of the witness?

The CHAIRMAN announced, that he had just
been informed• that he was then in attendance.

Mr. Thomas Toy was then called in, and examined
Ipy Sir Cewass Buianx. •
Do you live in Penryn T—Tea.
Do you recollect any circumstances that occurred at the list
election for that borough?—Yes._ _ _ _

Have you any remembrance of a meeting held in lienryn on
the 25th of May, 1818 ; and de you know where it was held ?
Yes, I remtmber such a meeting, which tools place 32 the sign
of the 17..fteen Balla

Do yo'.l harm for what purpose T—(The witness manifesting
some hesitation, was desired not to burrs, himself, but to take
time to consider bis answer.)—l believe i; waa called for the
purpose of opposing Mr. Swan's election.
What was in the chuir t—l was.

State to the House what paned on that oceasiou---(The wit-
ness, although repeatedly desired tospeak out, was for seined:l3k
inandible.)—To the best of my recollection a set of resolutions
Iva; passed, and handed tip to me by Mr. Williams,
In answer to she.question, by whom the resolutions'
were penned? the witness replied by himself; and
that they were dictated by views of personal hostility
to Mr. Swann, from whom he had received certain
indignities which he could not brook. He did all he
could to prejudice the Electors against him ; they
were already offended with him on account of his not
having " paid his breakfast." His great object was
to injure Mr. Swarth—(A laugh). The witness hav-
ing admitted that he had drawn up a hand-bill on
the occasion, was then asked if he bad kept a copy of
it? to which be replied in the negative. It was
printed by Mr. Brougham.
;Sir CHARLES BURRELL then demanded whe-
ther, having written it, he could remember the sub-
stance of it? He did not meen nor wish the witnesi
to state it veriatin, but merely to state the axsumentS
or facts of the paper. ry
The witness -believed it merely stook that. Mr.
Swann was expected to artiste in Oenomoa the ego
of the approaching Election, end wint7Oni Rs two"
his sentiments as to his eligibility aotkoaclisai.
Witness was ordered to withitatkr and; Nog dm;
motion of malonourable Madbeil (1111rtiMairn) the

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Serjeant was desired to prevent hi communicating
with any other person. -
Mr. C: HARVEY had understood that the hand-
l:6ll in question was given into the hands of one of
the Members of the (Penryn) Committee, dr of the
Clerk, but was not allowed to be read. He thought
the paper should be called for andproduced.
Sir CHARLES BURRELL requested the Honour-
able Member, if he had any, to state what his objec-
tion was to the mode be had pursued in examining
the witness?
Mr. lIARVEY explained. Ile had made no ob-
jection, but merely conceived, that as the paper was
understood w is the possession of one part of the
House, it might certainly be called for and read. Ile
could not see, if that was in existence and forthcom-
ing, why they need proceed upon oral testimony. .
Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH protested against
these attempts, which he believed had been tried 40
times in that House, to make the rule of evidence the
same as that observed in the Cow is of Law. If they
were permitted, the proceedings of the High Court
'of Parliament would become quite ridiculous. Ob-
jecting to and protesting against that course, how-
ever, as he did, he could see no objection to the call-
ing up of Mr. Jones, the Clerk of the Committee in
question, who should be asked whether or not Itched
a printed COM of the paper in his possession ? The
House was not precluded, by that or any other step,l
from making use of any rule of evidence that might
be deemed proper of course--(Hear).
After some remarks from Mr. HARVEY and Mr.
BARRY, in explanation,
Mr. WILLIAMS said, it seemed to be admitted on
all sides:that the course pursued by his'Honourable
Friend was not unparliamentary ; and, if it was not,
he thought any interruption of the course of evidence
was uncalled for.

Mr. HOLFORD thought it idle to expect a real
statement of the contents of the hand-bill from a wit-
ness who set out with declaring his almost entire for-
getfulness of them.
Mr. VALENTINE BLAKE, for his part, thought
nothing was more unpatliainentary than this wage
of time--{A jay gk).
Sir CHARLES BURRELL understood the paper
was in the possession of the Clerk of the Committee.
O. the motion of Sr. Faaossicz DOUGLAS, the.
Clerk was ordered to be called in,

The CHAIRMAN stated that Gentleman's name
to be NThite, not Jones; and, on his appearing, he
tated that he did not possess a copy. He was then
ordered to withdraw: and Mr. Toy was again called
in, but not being able, on his examination being re-
sumed b; Sir Charles Burrell, to call to mind the
substance of the hand-bill, entitled the " Well-wisher;'
was again ordered from the Bar.
The witness was then ordered to be again called
in, and the last question was repeated by Sir Charles
Burrell. It was stated in answer, that the witness
did remember some particular expressions of the
hand-bill entitled the " Well-wisher. He had had
no copy of it in his possession, for some time. Some
of the expressions which he recollected were as fol-
low: " The prating hero will soon arrive, assisted by
dissimulation and all his usual arts, to distribute
among the Electors his fish, his peppermint, and his
twopenny." This was an allusion to Mr. Swann's
practice or selling the two former articles, and of
'scattering shillings in public-houses for the purchase
of the latter. In another part, the Electors were as-
sured, that if they returned Mr. Swann, they might
rely on his afterwards treating them with the same
arrogance with which be had once addressed them,
when he told them to " go to h-11 and be d—d."
De you also recollect this expression in the hand-bill? " If
your choice be governed only by interest, you ought nut to re,
turn that man," meaning Mr. Swann.—Yer; I do.
Did it also contain the following Yon know lie had nei'
ther the inclination nor tie ability to gratify you for your fs-
I yours, and upon your principles what stronger objection can
vain against them than this? I recollect that expression.
Dots your memory extend to these observations also? " Has
he ever given any one of you a breakfast, or realized a single
expectation that you were aught to entertain? We are dis-
posed to Work back with pleasure to those good old times when
every man was provided with a breakfast, the only advantage
to which we aspire in the exercise of our elective franchise. Bat
be assured that a man after your own heart will offer himself in
due season."—The witness admitted that this passage did occur
in the composition of the hand-bill.

Mr. BLAKE rose to object to this mode of exa-
mining him, which he considered very irregular, as
tending, by certain suggestions, to lead him on invo-
luntarily in giving bis evidence.
Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW was surprised that this
objection could be made by the Honourable Member.
What ! was not the Honourable Baronet at liberty
to refer to and examine from a document which the
witness himself acknowledged to have published?—
It was not for that House to be bound by those
technical forms which regulate the proceedings of
inferior Courts.

, Mr. COURTNEY said, 'that though the House
was not bound by the forms of inferior Courts, still
that it ought to examine if these forms were founded
in justice, and if so there could be no reason why in
particular instances they should not be adhered to.
Grand Juries made it an invariable rule to look for
the best evidence that could be had, but if they fail-
ed with all their endeavours to get at the written in-
strument, they then admitted oral testimony, but at
:he same time with a due degree of caution. There
was in the present case to Parliamentary evidence
that could be depended upon, for it appeared that
the witness was either very incorrect in his judgment,
or meant intentionally to deceive.
Mr. WYNN had heard various arguments urged
in opposition to the oral testimony of the witness,
and calling for the written document ; but if that
document could not be procured, the House ought
to taEe the best evidence that could be had under the
particular circumstances of the case.
Mr. HOLFORD said, that the Honourable Baro-
net had intimated his intention to procure the original
document.

Sir C. BURRELL observed, in reply, that he had
entertained hopes of being-able to procure it, but
was disappointed.
Mrs WILLIAMS said, that as Honourable Mem-.
bers on the other side objected to the mode procecded
upon by his Hon. Friend, it would be for them to
ppudupe Ike :Original hand. bill,, which would remove
the necessity of referring to any cvy qiihat document.
• Witiiess having again apOastd at the Bar, his
rdiarniiation by Sir RAIILLI BLIIMILL was resumed.
Mitring:to the same, copy of mad-bill,..the lio-
nourehle Ret9llet, *Ord:him rid qucstialls,...t°
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