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London, England, 1819-02-27 00:00:00

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conspiracy had been formed against the
Member, he should be for inflicting the t
nishment that the law would allow. He
say that there was no conspiracy, he had
do with that question at present. The '
excuse him for putting those Members
been present on Wednesday in possession
(The Honourable Gentleman then stated
of the charge contained in the petition
Wilson had presented.) The Honourable
for Limerick, in his place, made a most
reply. But what followed ? The House
be evidence at theßar on Monday sot m,
Honourable Member said, that he had recei,
the petitioner's father that letter for whit'
was now in prison. He thought the House
have acted with greater decorum, if they '
steps to secure Mr. Grady's attendance w 1
but had abstained from proceeding immediyaz,:
such' an extremity. It sometimes harp
strangers contrived to hear their proceedil
on that occasion Mr. Grady having gained
sion into the House, heard the vote which
against him. Would not Mr. Grady have
tified, if on having heard the vote, and
peared at the Bar, he had said, " I ha,
vote, and I will not presume to question
bat I will not answer those questions wl
to me, for the first principle of justice
from convicting myself." The Member
'rick, forsooth, who was no party in the
came forward to give his evidence to
city of the letter, for which Mr. Grady
bar. Now, suppose—it was extremely
obliged to put the supposition—that, in
of Monday, instead of the conspiracy !xi
tho petitioner should prove the case again.
ber for Limerick ? They believed the
Member to be innocent, on account of t.
impressive defence which he had made—b,
it should prove the other way, what wot.
consequence ? By Mr. Quin, the person
evidence had been given, and those it.ho
not know- the decision they were comi.
Quin ought not to have been admitted
in that proceeding. If it had been pat
night, many of those who had vo*e.l on
don, would not have voted for the corm
Mr. Grady. Ile knew that many Members
that they had given that vote, and were
they had been too hasty. How had the
'given? It had no date, no address. The
Member on receiving it had thrown the
the table. He did not deny this—hut he .
that the Honourable Member's evidence ,
to have been admitted. There was another
to which he would advert. There had been
derable titter through the House when
took out his spectacles at the Bar, and %al
not see to read by candle-light. Now
pledge himself to prove at the Bar of
by the most respectable evidence both In.
and England, that Mr. Grady has not been
many years to see a single letter by cr
that he is almost perfectly blind at
would prove farther, that he was so short.
that if he had not a guide, even a carriage
over him without his being able to avoid
He mentioned this to shew the feeling of
Rio that night, because they had thought
blase was a trick on the part of Mr. Grady,
be was wishing to deceive them. He could
ibat although Mr. Grady was _a literary ."
end fond of reading, he could not use
night. • He would state further, that Mr. 1
the power of retii irig from the House over
again, for he had been marked in the earl'
the evening by the Honourable Member.
ing, therefore, %kb the greatest respect for
sion of the House,• was a proof that
wished to deceive them, nor to elude their
He would then state broadly, that there was
that Mr. Grady had written the letter in
the Honourable Member. But supposing
had written it, yet the House would recollect
had written it in a moment of irritation, •
the decision of the Honourable Member
the office. The Honourable Member, in
had asked, " Why, if I was afraid of an
tion, did I net give him the office ?" This
received by the House with cheers upon
the Honourable Member had given the office
Smith on the 22d of September, and Mr
letter is dated the 19th of October ; conseqt
had not the power of giving the office to Mr.
son after the 19th of October. The evidence
Gould, and of the petitioner, against the
able Member, was represented in the charge
bfishing this fact. It had not then been in '
of the Honourable Member, except they
he had the power, because the once had be
to Mr. Smith durinrpleasure. • He Insisted
that there was not evidence to prove that
was Mr. Grady's ; if there was such evidence,
letter was written after the decision of the
able Member, and in a moment of irritation.
would non: go further, and say that them
line in the letter containing a breach of t
leges of the House; 'he would read the letter
to shew this.

Mr. W. WYNN begged to interrupt the
able Member. He conceived it going too
Member, when a Resolution of the House
tinctly pronounced upon a fact, to come
say that the fact was not so—(Hear, hear,
Mr. H. HUTCHINSON would be permitted
say, that having been absent on the conclusion
proceedings on the former night, and having
to convince several Gentlemen of the justice -
sentiments which he entertained upon the J.
thought it necessary to move upon that night
the proceedings should be printed for the
,tion of the Howe. His object in this was ,
a more full dilcussion of •the case. He was
ted with the character of Mr. Grady, and
to ,he a person of great respectability,
lents and conduct.
Mr. WYNN had no possible objection
ing of the letter, or to any other proceeding
the Honourable Member might have thou'
to have recourse to; but he objected to
statement which had just been beard by u.
that that which was voted a breach of privilege
not such in fittt--(Hear, 'hear!)
Mr. IL 117.INSON hopefi, that even
occasion of so touch iitatet as that ill

fitiLifir felt himself called upon to state ben, perhaps, wee not aware of the decision they,
rnmittee had not found that bribery had were coming to. Ile did not undervalue, the privi-
mt against the majority of the Burgesses, leges of Parliament—he respected them as valuable,
ut only a few of them. In mentioning because they enabled Parliament to protect the peo-
iven in the Report, the Committee meant ple---(l4Bar, Ansi.). The. privileges of Parliament,
diose who had most grossly trauligrelsed thereore, were:the ' privileges of , the people: He
ISTLEREAGH had no dthibillhat it should be ignorant of the Constitution, if-he rose in
ound the decision of the •Was his place to *minty reduction on the privileges of
ust be ratified upon the exiditeen tithe the Helsel But, with respect to that decision, he
' there wxs any pnriciple'whi J; ihelltineei tonieivied *either had aeeed in error. He -should
twome7Lid
as sacred as the puiittd, . - , be itnillf it tre!.. that was anxious to
; that the Repieseotatinn ,rn . Oe. at preteens. SC • against the Hon. Men-
Vasa
possible and that the siett OP .. --. , . ' be, elr tit ' MOM. • On the cos
em'a
ie withheld from' thbeeer& --11 f; is it the* r Wasight, it should
Ire appeared fait gropaitt-fstai thetas's- :eippeael as' ' thong* it avoid appear, that a

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a
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House
who
a of the Lir,
td the r.atsp
'which Sit R.
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it triutup •
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mught. Tat
received hots
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House wo
ley had tak4
when requir,4
nmedine:v
appened
ceediniy,
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lave been
haring
aye heard tA
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hich you
protects :r4
er for Lira
e proceediri,
the attei.c.--.
stood 2.:te
painful to
t the inqt,.:7,
being pave;,
Inst the Mtr-
the ah!e a-,1
—but. sap' ce
vould be
rson accuse,;
.110 votd
sing to.
d an 4.-..er
t off :ill :.2t:
on that tcc:,.
inimitmera cf
hers repented
re awa:e tha
e let:el bee
e Ilunuuralit
cover lark;
re maintained
ce ought act
nother paint
been a consi-
a Mr. Grady
;aid he could
w, he would
that Holie,
from lrelani
*en able for
candle-light;
night. He
hort-sighted,
ze might nil
id it—thee.%)
tf the lity,l2
that this et-
dy, and t!:::
ould pro,
Gentler u::,
e a bcck
Grads had
'er and over
early prt of
• His wait.
for the deci-
: be r.either
eir sentence.
was no proof
question to
ing that he
dlect &tithe
in, and the
T respecting
his defence,
in investiga-
his had been
cheers; but
Ace to Mr.
Kr. Grady's
*fluently, he
Mr. .Grady's
fence of Mr.
he Honour-
arge as estw,
in the power
ey find that
been gives
ted upon it
tat the letter
vidence, the
the Honour-
itation. He
re was not a
of the privi-
nter in order
the Honour-
o far for au!
use had dir'
to dawn and
r, hear).
)ermitted to
fusion of the
laving failed
tice of those
subject, Ile
tight that all
he informk
LS to procu:e
vas acqiiair.-
id knew him
both fur ta-
to the rei!-
which
sight
even
i° egicisrelcPolhbr proper
•
h.raje

of Parliament were concerned, .the House
disposed to relax from the letter of justice
ince di4approbation manifested by the Ministe-
-4 unless where the case was so important as
it could not be passed over slightly. But at all
Its, he was confident that it was not unbecoming
Parliament to reconsider a Resolution to which
had previously assented—(Hear, hear.) He
that the House would permit him.to read the
. Honourable Member then read the let-
ich is as follows:
" Boulogne.cur-Mer, October 19.
I hare received no answer to my letter, delivered
C. Smyth, I presume you do not mean to answer
cv,:, that shall not divert me from the course I mean to
the baiiness. Underneath you have the copy of a jottly
tnt• to a leading Member of Opposition, with whom
ce been the lost, week in London, who ficnished me with
and precedents from the Commons Journals, for the
and to whose advice I have committed myself. I think
,to aisure you, that. I have not, and sliall not, curnmunf.
this or any future step with Mr. C. Smyth, much less
ay body else on the other side of the Irish Channel. I
to any idea of a threat ; but, as I have often:done before
I advantage, I offer you advice. I advise you to restore
o w his office, of which you d prived him, by an appoint.
,far hie, before the Ist of next January, and by your answer
defter to inform me that you mean to take my advice.
•-r, I Phan consider as rejecting the advice; and it will
~,Keisary for you to write, if you are determined upon re.
opt. your answer or your no answer will he here, or *ill
be here, the 12th of Ncr. ember ; and to save you further
and me further del.iy, I think it right to observe, that
r,gg,stion of any middle term will not fall within the scope
ger air:ce.—Sir, your obedient servant, (Signed)
•ro •••••,, C lkc. &e. " THOMAS OR/,IDY."
ling considered this letter over and over again, he
A that he should require the aid of the Ho-
Member (Mr. Wynn) to explain it to him,
he could see where it contained any bread' of
Tile charge against the Member for Li-
ck was an improper traffic of an office. The
was, that the charge was untrue. There was
attack upon the Member in his Parliamentary
aler ; and if it were to be construed into a libel,
would ask where was the libelous matter to be

AP Ile begged to assure the House, on the part
Mr. Grady, that that Gentleman felt the utmost
fur the kindness shewishim by several Gen-
, in Opposition, particularly a worthy Alder-
Hoitourable Member for London (Alder-
tin Wm.') who had so much distinguished himself
hi, efforts to soften the rigours of the different
es of confinement in the Metropolis. .He was
that the Honourable Member for Dover
J. Jackson) should have stated, that he would
consent to release a man on Friday who had li-
the House on Wednesday. But there was no
. against it. Ile begged to inform the House,
he appeared on behalf of Mr. Grady without the
itest solicitation from that Gentleman, and in-

, that his cause might not receive any prejudice
the supposition that he (Mr. Grady) had urged
lay Member to defend him. He (Mr. Hutchinson)
declared that he had no motive whatever for his exer-
tions besides that general one which, as a Member of
Parliament, he was bound to act upon. He denied
that the language of the Petition sent by Mr. Grady
oa Thursday contained any offensive matter to the
se; on the contrary, Mr. Grady stated, that he

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