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London, England, 1803-06-21 00:00:00

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Egypt for this Country, aught alto to have a fepa-,
rate command.
fiord Clitosystioit ealle-d the •Nrible Lord to order.'
The Duke of CLARENCE expteffed his furptife at'
thy Noble Earl, for having called his noble friend
(Lord Suffolk) to order ; /mil' what his noble friend
had bid was dilorderly, everything that he this Royal
Highnefs) had faid, mull be deemed diforderly alfo.
The Loan Coaxes:date left the:Woolfack, and
faid, that he was lorry the debate had taken that,
turn, which obliged him to,fay, that the ['vetches of
all the Noble Lords who had fpoken, were certainly
iriegular, and in tome degree out of order. The
quedion before the li,ulfe was, for an 4ddrels to hi.
Majety, to return thanks for his Majelly's moil gra-
cious Menge. The Noble Secretary of State, in
moving this Addrefs, had certainly, in rot* degree,
been out of order, in mentioning the outline of
the plan which it was intended to fubmit to the eon-
lideration nf Parliament, on a forme day. Though
the Noble Secretary of State could not well do other.
wife ; yet certainly, at this time, the plan was not
the dirett fubjeet before the Houle. He therefore
thought, their Lordfhips would do well to confuse'
themfelves to the Cubit& of the Addrefs, which was
the only queilluo for them to determine.
Lord CA itystoßT erpreffed his furprife at *kat had
jai fallen from the Noble and Learned Lord, and
horn the Noble Earl who firft flarted•the fubjeft of
order. The Noble Secretary of State had- Rated the
outline of a phut propoled to be ad, pted, in confor-
mity to the fentimenti txpreffed in the Idefflge i and
he thought it WAS perfettly competent to :very Noble
Lord to deliver his approbation or difapprobation of
that plan, without being liable to the charge of being
either irregular or out of o.sicr : and be conceived
their Lordships being told fo was an infringement on
the privileges of the Huufe, and of the freedom of
debate.
The LORD•CNANCELLOR again left the weolfack,
and denied that in any thing that he had laid, he had
infringed in the fmalleit degree the privileges of the
Houfe. The Noble Earl had bees called to order,
and, in his opinion, very properly, for having dr.
viated from the (pie-lion immediately before the
Hoeft, which he again inflfled was folely relative
to the Addrefs, and that the difeuflion with regard
the plan itfelf, ought not regularly to take place
straw
day appointed for the ccm fideration of the fame.
• . Caettste raid, that as to thP point of order,
he fay nothing, but he thought that any Noble
Loed riling it his place, in that Houk, and giving his
opinion). as to what General or Generals ihould be
appointed to commands, was certainly an interference
with the prerogative of the Crown, in whom was
yelled the fole power of making fuch appointments,
either in cafe of peace or war.
Lord Surrout then refumed, and laid he had no
intention whatever of interfering with the royal pre-
rogative. He had merely given his opinion as a
military man to his Majefly's Minifters, and he would
again repeat, that he thought the man who had con.
quered Egypt, would be right in refuting to accept
a command under any man.
Lord MOIRA" My Lord, unwilling as I am to
detain your Lordfhips, it would ill become me to let
this fubjett pals, without offering, as fhonly as poin-
ble, my fentiments on the (mention. I highly approve,
my Lords, the patriotic feelings and public font of
the Noble Earl who has kill fat down ; and at the
fame time that I thank him for the very flattering
manner in which he has done me the honour of al:
luding to me, yet I am at prefent perfettly fatisfied
with the niode in which my Sovereign has been
pleated to dißinguiflt me : and I Mall with as much
cheerfulners and fatisfaetion draw my (word in the
private ranks as a Yeoman, for the defence of my
country, as if I were placed at the head of an army.
I cannot, however, allow that my noble Friend, in
the (cope which he tank on this queßion was Cut of
order, beeaofe I feel myfelf the right of per-
haps a Rill wider (cope on the fubjea. The fubjetl.
my Lord, this day fubtnitted for your confideration
is hit Majeßy's meffage, which communicates to you
the dangers of attack again° this country, meditated
by the enemy, and calls upon you for co-operation in
railing an eitraordinary force for the public defence ;
and the Noble Secretary of State, its following up his
Maljeily'envelage, by his tpeech this night, has chalk-
ed to your Lordltips a line for therailing that force.
But in lying my vote this night, in fupport of the
trig
s propofed for your Lordships' adoption, I
f eat to the detail by which it is to be carried into
tilt I hold it my dety'to Mink to any mode
which his hiajelly's MinitteriMall think molt advifa
bit to point out in the prefent crifis, looking as I do
to dit refpoofibility ; and however I may dire's-
prow in my own opinion of the plan now offered,
yet I it prudent, rather to Coffer that plan to go
forward, than by offering any plan of my own at the '
Igrefeat nossitent, to paralife or retard the operations
d( ON which his Majefly's Minifters have projefted,
r cowherd as lam that we have not a meanest to loft.
That which particularly, into-ells my appreheafion,
at the prefent moment ts, that the Noble Secretary
' of State does not teem to feel the urgent necetlky of
expedition, when he propofes, that this intafurt
fheold undergo, at a future day, a delitierate difeof.
don is Parliament. Why, my Lords, it is now before
Parliament aid in dikulfion, and we have not a angle
hoer to lei is its adoption. While you are arguing,
the enemy are acing I while you are cooly deliborat
Mg the mean of your defence, they are deciding
urns preempt attack, an 4 they will be upon you before
MI are rertod. But, my Lords, say regret is,
that we ai this moment are dehiseratiog on tin mode
of premiss'
_for owr defence, when fo lows no as
the end, ad Marsh lag, his Majaßy's Minitters were
aware diet war was inevitable, and thereCoeu came
dews to this Houle to announce the neeefity of arm.
fug ; they mud have well known at that time the
' aute they had to deal with, and the neeefStv of being
, guarded ogee* his defigns i but now, at the latter
I- end of Irmo they corn( forward with a plan foe the
I defence of the Country, tube formatted for the del-