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to such reproaches, what Mr..Borke 1 said on a simihir ream, and especially they did not speakthe.senteof the
°anion —". TIM, and cireinistancei have changedd People of Maidstone. For himself,--it Wras-tuinecessati'
add thee_ ooglit to• govern our conduct.* There fiat him then t'fi declare-that he was decidedly oppoved
were Tony who •
.sigoed .the Petition, which he was to Coy concessions of political poWer to :the Hornaii
now plesenting, as anxious to support the Pro.: 'Patitoliti- The matters in dispute were of the last
testantEstablishment to any other desciiption of per., importance. anJ he entertained Ilot the slightest -antAt
sons in Leland. If there was so. strong a feeling at that the opinion of a majotitv of the people of Etig•
•he Irish Bar against the Catholic Clai', as hie Hon. land was decidedly opposed to Concession. It lit in
Friend represented, why did he not prevail-on them to vain di st they attempted to disguise from themselves the
petition against the measure before the House? There truth that the public sentiment was against it. The
were many prominent characters among them, who had
Hon. Member then alluded to some advocate
not been backward to rouse the feelings of the multitude of- the
on the occasion. To the honour Roman Catholic Claims whose effigy- had been burned
of the Irish Bar be it
by the populace—it was in vain that any attempts %ere
said, 10) Members of it petitioned in favour of roovs• made to keep down the expression of Opinionl—il could
sion ; and to its honour be it Said, not one Petition came
from it against Emancipation. With pride he stud, not be suppeessed. The Hon. and Le tined Gentieman,
prop the Solicitor General for Ireland, hod endeavourea to
that there were prospects of the osed measure giving
violent of the Protestant, cast ridicule upon a speech made by the Honors' able
general satisfaction. The most
who, from the danger which the conduct of the Catho• and Learned Member for Dublin, accusing him of
siving no argument in the course of a loot speech,
lies had presented, assumed a hostile attitude, were now at the saire time that be (the Solicitor General) went
glad that Government had taken this measure in hand, out of the House while the Member fur Dublin was
and were running a rivalry with -the Catholics, who speaking cf the resolution of 1688, and at the end
coold receive the boon with the greatest joy. He felt of an hour he returned and found him urging the same
satisfied that, before many. months were over, good topic, and immediately thereupon attired at the con-
will and general satisfaction would pervade all classes elusion that in the moan time no argent at had been
of his Majesty's subjects. .- urged by the Hon. and Lest ned Member for Dublin.
Mr. B. COOPER presented two Petitions teem Stroud and its He (Mr. Wells) thought the present ci ids demand d the
1 vicinity against the Catholic Claims. strenuous-exertions of every man in England who did
Colonel SIBTHORPE presented several Petitions of the same not wish to see the constitution overturaN, ' flurried, their libel lies
character from Coninpby and other parts of the county of Lincoln.
Me. STEWART declared himself decidedly favourable to the annihilated, and the Protestant interest utterly ruined.
Catholic Claims, and ready to give his best support to the Bit. Mr. J. MARTIN did not deny that considerable ex-
ile believed the country was equally ready to remote the adjust. citensent prevailed oa the subject of the Catholic Claims,
meat of this question, fork was quite evident that all the undue nor was that to be wondeted when Noble Lords
efforts to promote excitement had failed. He lamented that Mr: •
and Clergymen, and Magisttates, ands Members of that
1 Canning had not lived to see this triumph of Ids principles, and
conversion to them of his high political opponents.- House, were in the habit of leading the populace, and
Colonel SISTHORPE said, that if the Hon. Member would even one of ihose eminent persons was heard t , declare
travel lino Lincolnshire, he would see the warm hostility of the that he would light in blood to the .sees before he
people to the proposed mature. would consent to concession, to the Roman Cat%olics.
Sir R. HERON denied that there was any excitement in Lin•
coinshire upon the subject. Mr. WELLS felt that the Honourable Member had
Lend A. HILL presented several Petitions from parishes in the done him an hownr • II •
county of Down in favour of the Catholic Claims. in alluding to his name in connec-
tion with that of the Noble L. rd who had so much
Sir HENRY SMYTH presented a Petition from Wealy, in
Essex, against the Catholic Mints. . distinguished himself by his exertions in support of tite
General PEACHEY presented a Petition, numerously signed, Constitutiun. With respect to the conduct (float Noble
from Taunton, against the Catholic Claims. It was with pride Lord it would be impossible for him (*.Weds) to do
and pleasure that he saw it so numerously and respectably signed.
orrice
jby words to the feelings of admiration whttli the
It bore the signatures of doe two Vicars, and seven of the Clergy,
who were also moat useful Magistrates in the neighbourhood.— conduct of that N lisle Lord hut excited in his mind.
These were the descendants of men who had spilt their blood in Of him he would, therefore, say nothing. As to what
the maintenance of the constitution, when ft was assailed by tyranny had been said of himself he regarded it with no other
and Popery. _
teelinl than the utmoit de ree. of. A cry
these petitioners, but he regretted the violent language which they °t 'surder" ). g —(
bad and in expressing their sentiments. He knew, however, that The SPEAKER—Mr, Was! •
there were many persons in Taunton who dissented from the opt. Mr. WELLS said if he had been guilty of any breach
nicer, of the petitioners upon this question. of order he telt son y for having transgressed the tubes ul
Mr. DICKINSON believed that the great majority of them was
hostile to the Catholic Claims. the H ,u,e. The liontiniable Member then vindicated '

General PEACHEY said his Hon. Colleague had cha-
racterised the language of the Pitition as violent. He
would say it was such language as became the peti-
tioners. They felt that their best privileges and Tuber.
ties were at stake. and he should have been ashamed
for them if. under such circumstances, they had sent to
that House a vapid lukewarm petition, which might be
construed in favour of either side. Many anus; ins had
been made to placards. and it seemed to be understood
that all the placirds posted up proceeded from the up.
'holders of the Constitution. He would, however, beg
'to read a placard of a very different character—'a The
King and his Majesty's blinisters are for the Roman
Catholics. Those who are against them are bigots, and,
the advocates of tithes, oppression, ke."—(Laughtet).
The Petition was then read, and ordered to be printed.
'Mr. SHIRLEY presented Petitions from Ballibay, and two
other places ins the county of Monaghan, end two Petitions from
the county of Donegal, against any farther concessions to the Roman
Catholics.—Ordered to be piloted.
Major General KING presented Petitions against further conres-
sloes to the Roman Catholics from' Mahon, in Worcestershlie•
from Kimealmeakk, in the county of Cork; from Balm*, and
front other place in Ireland.—. Ordered to be printed.
Sir C. coork prevented a Petition from the Romeo Ceiba*
inhabitants of a parish in Queens county, praying for • relief Isom
civil disabilities.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. CORRY preeented a Petition irons the Dtlaisters, Elders.
Stc. of a Dissenting Congregation, in the county of Tyrone, against
further concessions to the Roman Catholics —To be printed.
Mr. H. MAXWELL presented nineteen Petitions spina fur.'
riser concessions to the Roman Catholics. Amongst them.were
Petitions Irons a parish iu Gloucestershire; from Banigattier. New-
no and other places in the county of Armagh; from Duncreed,
aidother places in the county of Down ; from Ardglau and other
places in 'the county of Donegal ; and from a CongregatlOn of Dl..
venters assembling at Mulberry.gardens Chapel, Bell-street, Rat-
cliffe-bighway.—AU ordered to be printed.
Mr. MOORE presented similar Petitions from &. Micluiel,
St. Werborgh, and St. Mary's parishes, Dublin; and feast the
Corporation of Tailors and W in Dublin.—Ordered to be
printed.
The same Honourable and Learned 0111ITLIZAN
similar Petition from the Clergy of the Diocese of Clogbrita.. -
dived to be printed.
Mr. DOWNIE presented a similar Peados front the Minister
aid Congregation of Auchterarder.
Mr. HOLDSWORTH presented a similar Sulfites from a
place in Devensbire.—Ordered to be printed.
Sir T. D. ACLAND presented a Pe4114011 Wavier of Roman
Catholic Claims from the Magistrates, Gentry, and Clefs, of the
borough of Tavistuck.
Sir C. MOROA N presented two Petitions-from places in Bre-
con, in, Monmouthshire, against further concessions to the Roman
Catholic.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. BERNAL moaned a Poitiers from Rochester in favour
of• Roman Catholic Qiiolll.
Mr. H. BAT ILEY rose to present a Petition from
Beverley, against further concessions to the Homan
Catholics. He stated to the House that the Petition
which be held in his hand was the result of a public
meeting which had been convened io the town which
be represented, in consequence of a requisition most
respectably signed, and the Petition itself was signed by
persons so many in number, and so distinguished fur
respectability and is telli,ence, as to entitle it to Ve
most *Anjou: consideration ot the House. It had thesig.
natures of- twenty Clergymen, sixteen Magistrates. sad
more than 4900 of the most respectable inhabitants of
that town and its vicit.i.y. Tire meeting of which he
spoke was one of the largest that had ever assem-
bled in the town of Beverley. He called the at
tention of the House particularly to the fact, that the
countervetitien in favour of the Catholic Claims hid
only three hundred or four hundred signatures let
them contrast 'hat with the present petition. He gave
the individuals who signed the con bier. petition the fullest
vein for purity of motive. 'He had been returned by
two t..ousand elector s, and he felt perfectly. convinced
the petitioners had a sincere deaile to see the true in•
terests of the country promoted, and the integrity of
the Constitution preserved. The Hon. MeMber con-
cluded by prevailing the petition in question, which was
ordered to be printed.
llr. EORRTON presented a thaw Pettiest fronsWest Kirby,
in the camp ot Chester.
Sir T. D. ACLAND presented a Petition from the city of
Easier in favour if Roman Catholic Claims.
Mr. BUCK said thlit.the strongest proof of the Fluent feeling
is Earner being adverse to Conceisim was, that sis few individuals
hid signed this petition out Oa population of tbirty.seven thousand
parsons.--Laid pn the table.
dlr. HODGES FOLEY presented a Petidoo from a parish in
the county of lierefutd against further Concessions to the &maim
Catb&tcs.
Sir WILLIAM GUISE presented a
,Petition aplnet further
concessions to the Boman •Cathelim irons &rood, in Gloucester-
shire.—Ordered 4o bl pript'ed.,
Mr. RO RA nrs presented MO Petitions in (avow of flown Cs-
tbolle Oatins trots Alitilltitite stalCromeens, ia the countf of Kent.
Mt. WELLS' denied iitat those Petitions spoke the
.sense of the Inhabitants of t: e places from whereas,'

the language which had beet attributed to him, and
contended 'brain the sense, and under the circum.tances
in which he used it, be was perfectly.justifiahle.
After a few words'from Sir R. Kuatcuisuti. Sir Joint Batman,
Mr. Mame, Mr. Ciasits, •assd Mr. Tease, the Petition was
brought up. /..'
Mr. ROBARTS observed,. in.reply, that be had nothing to do
with the manner in wirch it bad been got up.
The Petition was read, and ordered to be laid upon the table.
Admiral EVANS presented two Petitions 'from two Llamnies in
the county of Cork, praying that no further concessions might be
granted to the Roman CatboUce.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. D. PRIMA ki presented a Petition from the inhabitants of
Romney, in the county of Kent, against any further concession al
I the Catholic Claims.—Ordered to be painted.
Sir E. HARVEY said, that, in addition to the no-
'nitrous Petitons r, bich he had already presented to the
House, he bad now the satisfacti n of calling its .attert-
tiun to ten others, signed by the inhabitants 0.1 various
pans pf the county of Esea, praying that no further
concessions might be granted to the political power of
the Roman Catholics. He had no hesitation in sqing
that the feeling expressed by the persons who had bigied
these Petitions was, in fact, the opinion of by far the
greater part, if not the whole, of the county of Es ex.—
Ihe Petitions were read, and ordeoed to be prime:J.
Iir.WESTENRA presented five Petitions from different places
In Irelandin favour of the Catholic Claims ; and one (ions the iw
habitant. of a parish hi King's County against the VestiT Act.
Mr. R. TREVOR presented three Petitions from differeat pa-
rishes io Carmarthenshire against Concession.. Mr. Trevor said
one of the petitions was signed by 5,016 persons, and that that
number bad been obtained without any canvassing or unfair mod.
whatever.
Sir A. CHICHESTER prevented a Petition, signed by eight
hundred persons, Inhabitants of a parish in the county of Armagh,
against concession.
Mr. SCOTT presented two Petitions from the county of Ito:-
burgh against concession.
Sir G. PHIL LI PS presented a Petition from the Unitarian dis-
senters at a place in Cheshire in favour of Catholic Claims.
Idr.,IPROTHEROE. having moved for a return of the extent
of she Jerisdiction of the Ecclesiastical Courts, the plates where
Wills are deposited, mid the names of the persons in whose custody
they were, presented two petitions from the county of Gloucester,
and one from Worcester, in favour of the Catholic Claims.
Sir G. MURRAY presented a Petition from a number of the
Procurators of Edinburgh in favour of the Claims.
Sir G. HILL said that he:held in his band a Petition
signed by Misty-one M *inmates mid a vast number ot
the inhabitants of the county and city of Londonderry
against concession. The Hon. Alembtrr observed, that
many of the Gentry in the neighbourhood from whence
this petition came were of opinion, that the ['time Mi-
niver and the Right Hon. Secretary for the Home Des
partment ought to have taken. such a step as they had
dote towards the settlement of the Catholic questioni
but at the same time he did not hesitate to state, that
the great majority of the inhabitants were opposed to
the claims. For the last tniity-six years he had been
the constant opponent to the measure,-but during that
time it had never before been brought forward by the
•Ministers of the State.
Sir JOHN BRYDGES, as the Representative ache
loroogh of Coleraine, felt himself called upop to bolt'
testimony to the respectability of the Petitioners: The
Petition was signed by 20,000 of the Protestants of the
county of
.Londonderry, and expressed opinions in
,which he cordially concurred—opinions which re-
mained unchanged in the Petitioners by any of the de-
clarations of the Right Houourable Secretary for the
Home Department. He repeated that he had listened
with Unfeigned regret and mortification to the argil.
menus used by that Right Hen. Gentleman its defence
of his desertion of his former principles, and he still en.
tertained a hope that the Right Hun. Gentleman would
retrace his steps, and again place himself at the head
of the Protestants of the Empire.
Mr. G. DAWSON did not wish to depreciate the
petition from Londonderry in the slightest degree,
although he had certainly received statements of many
artifices having been resorted to to procure signalises.
He would, however, allow it to lie upon the table as the
petition ot .22.000 inhabitants of Londonderry against
the claims of the Catholics, and would bear testimony
to the great respectability of a glen proportion of those
by whom it was signed; but he would state that the
opinion.. of the people of that aunty were by no
means unanimous, and he saw that the names of
many distinguished and wealthy individuals were
absent tram the petition. He believed the people of that
county were, like those of other parts of Ireland, be-
ginning to see that 14113, settlement of the question was
necessary. He bad one proof of this opinion in the fact,'
that the Petition from Londonderry, which was usually
presented by him,..was now presented bibip Itigist,Hots.
Eliend (Sir (. Hill), who bad just declared to the

House the change that had tA ken plAtein his 6entimentt
on this subject. Doubtless the Petitioner, would 50,41
'also change theirs. lie felt aimed that the efforts nos►
waking would lead to the prospetity, and, indeed, the
,alvation i f litho&

STEWART expressed his opinion. that Many
in.:ivitiu..l% who siptieci dos Petition would soon
Petition nn the other side.

Mr TUITE thought the measure for dibirsochisiog
the forty sh,llieg freeholdess would give satisfActioi in
Leland.

TRANT objected to web observations as that
certain petitioners is ere likely to change their minds a
although, indeed, fom recent circumstances, it was
.41;fficult t say what changes might slut like place. The.
Right Hon. Gentleman who represented Londonderry
haJ himself, a short time ago, green a specimen of his
fickle mature when addressing ht. constituents. He (Mrs
Tram) thought that flu means ought Ur be used t press
fur waid this measure of C rtholic Emancipation but
those which were fiir and legitimate. He wished be
c-uld say that hIS merchants from Ireland were at rails.
I ctor y As ttioie which it appeased had t eel' riceieed hy
tither Hun. Members; hut, irs,ni his intormativn, affairs
there were eery different from the s .te in which they
were represesded by some nourable blemb-rs to tie,
A Right Honourable Gentleman (S.r 6.1111 ) had given
one reason idly he had changed his sentiments upon the
Catholic Ques•ion, that the llonou.alale Ale:titers fur
Lundish, the Hormone le NlAnbers for S utliv ark, and
'the Honourable Members fur Westminster had changed
theirs.. Now, as well as he (Xlr.T, ail) recollected. the
Honourable Members for those plat es had iffirariahly,
And almost onasOntously, suppur•ed the Clangs of the
Cathclics ,• and Sci thought it Would have been more
fair in the Right Honourable Gentlt•m.ln so have said,
"his Majesty's Guyer nartent have ctn. e round and acre.
fore Ste have
After a ftw words from Mr. Roaditost and fioni Sir J. Mumma.
in explanation, the Petition was laid on the ta'•le.
Sir G. HILL then presented Petitions to the same effect fines
Kilranie, in the county of Londonderry, from a parish in the
county of Armagh, from a Methodist Co. gregadon its (be comp
of Londonderry, from Portadowo, from the Lorporapon nt the
City of Londonderry, and front otherplices in the county of Lon-
donderry.—Ordered to lie on the table. •
Generai O'NEILL presented Pediont against the Claims of
the Catholic, from Ballymena, in the county of Antrim ; from
Lonna. in the tame county, and a Plesbyterian Congregation in the
muse county.—Ordered to he on the table.
Mr. C. PALLM RR save notice that he would on Thursday
next present to the !louse a Petition, purporting to be signed by
100,000 inhabitant butisebolders of the City of London, agahist the
Clams of the Catholics.

Lord STANLEY presented a Petition in favour of the radio.
lice Irons A.litura utider-Lyrae. in the county of Lancaster ; alco a
Petition from the Licensed Victualler. of Odium, prayirg for a
repeal of the firmer and Window Tas, and against Urbreftwit
Victuallen. The same Noble Lord also presented a Petition tram
the Corporals and Drummers cg the Royal Lancishirr
complaining of certain reginterthil orders directing titan.—laid tin
the table

Lord 110IIPRTII presented two Petitions, one from a pgrisil
in the city of Mobilo, and one Irons a pariarinYorksigite, in taw*, •
of Entangripation.—Ordered to he un the table. • • . .
Sir I. WItOTTESLEV pre*nted Petitions from the Dissent. rs -
of !Jerson-on-Trent, of Costly and Colton, all in Staffordshire, in •
favour of Emancipation —Ordered to lie on the table. Aeon •
Petition from the parish of liaswicli against Emancipation. Also a - "••
Petition frum the Magistrates of Staffordshire, in favour of the •
Hiring by Service tn.—Ordered to be piloted.
• •
Mr. TILANT presented Petitions against Emancipation from
the Dissenters of Grantham and neighbourhood ; the iabouldhate
street Congregakion, glary-la-banns; and the parish of Little Pen; •
In the Isle of Ely.
Lord MILTON presented Petitions in favour Einancipatiosia..44
from Leeds • Doncaster, the Arehdeacoory of Cleveland, the Stn.
dents of Airile Independent College, and several parlshis in *Yeel6sf":.l
shire. The first Petition was signed' by sixteen tbotisand persttssss
who.e igtistetes were obtained in little more than two days,
Was adopted rat a meeting of Skeen thousand persons, anti' warm. .4
debate. It had the signatures of three Aidermell, and a large pre. ,
portion of the .....h of the town of Leeds.

Sir O. NOILL presented s Petition against further. amearetleisisag,
to the C.athulice from the parish of Uppingham, and the.-Pitta:.',_
holders of Rutland, in which county Uppingbanywas.....Ordstred lie a, 4
be printed:-
Mr. S. RfClt presented Silken Petitions is favour of Deane&
patios from ;wishes in Limerick and Tipperary ; also two. others •
from,parishes in 11piterary against the Vestry and alb-kiting-Acts. 1-
Ordered to lie on the table. On the motion of the same His...
blember;the returns relating to the leather trade of Ireland *ere
ordered to be. printed. •
Mr. RASTHOPEpressated a Petition from the Baptists et '
Sburtwu.d, in Oloneaftersisire. in favour of Banaheipation.—On. •
dared to be printed. 4
Colonel WOOD presented a Petition Item a place in
the county of Beeson, against the Catholic Claims. He
wished to take this opportunity to state that a meeting
f the inhabitants of that couLty had been held, at which
a Petition against the Bill now before Parliament had
teen almost unanimously adopted. He was also de-
siva% to explain the position in which he was now placed
codsequence of the adoption of that Petition. The
Hemet was probably not aware that he (Colonel Wood)
1.a..1 never before given a vote upon this question, and
he wished to explain tl:e reasons which had induced • -
him to refrain from voting on tt. He had had the bap- .
piness of having btea connected for many years with.
a deceased Minister, whose whole p •Istical life was
honestly and zealously devoted to the advocacy of the
Catholic cause. At the same time be (Colonel Wood)
was aware that the great body Of the constituents •
*hoes' be represented., wete adverse to the Catholic
claims; and under these circumstances he held hitnalf
neutral on the question, on this express understanding,
that whenevvr the county should at a public meeting ..
declare its Opinion in a decided manner, his vote 5h0u1d.,.,.
be regulated. accordingly. A. meeting of- the county
had been held within the last new days, and he under.,
stood from -a gentlegiattiiiho was present, that the great..*.
majority were in favour of the Petition whit-hems .4
adopted against theCitholic claims, and that only 10
lir 12-bands wets bel4 up ailinst it. He' (Cot. Wood)
shoOld therefore Vote against ifie measure. Some Hoe.
Members, might consider itueli. a 'node of proceeding •
untonstitutioussl, but he (Colonel Wood) deemed it the •
'only coortte-whio he could adopt in justice to his cyn-
." •

Mr. VAN HOMRIGH expressed himself decidedly
in favour of granting the Catholics what he called their
fair, just. and honest demands.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY presented a Petition from
Colchester in favour of Emancipation. It was signed
by persons of all denominations. They did not wish to
detract from the honesty of those who had signed a
Petition with a contrary prayer. but he was instructed
to say, that it was signed by 150 children that attended
a school under the influence of there who bad got cep
the Petition ; whilst another school, nearly as mime,.
rous, under the influence of the present petitioners, had
not been suffered to sign the one he now presented"
With siespct to the measure that had been introduced
by the 14bt Hon. . Secretary, it either did not go fie
' enough, or went trio far. It would not tranquillize Ireland!
unless some measure was taken to provide for the'
Catholic Clergy; and as he hadbefore said. he thought,
the Protestant, church reienUes the proper fond W.
mike tbak prOviiion from. The Roman Catholic
could not, as a conscientinus man, sit still and not esert
every influence both in and out of that House, toga
part of those 'teveniies for hii Own Church, With felPed
to the lion. Member 19T leimirickoa lair on, a forma
inning bad so-bitterly,: unjustifiably; and in a moon.
rio uncalled foi,yenretiended hips for having expressed'
that Opinios,be had thought at the.time, that at 11016
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