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pertly these circumstances, whatever else they
/night prove, did not prove that there. was any great
degree of irreligion in the country. On tile contrary.
in his opinion, if there was any tme time at which toe
danger of superstition-Was mire to be apprehended
than the danger arising from the neglect of religion,
it V;25 the pr.-sent. No case had been made out in
the Report to justify such a step as the suspension of
the habeas Corr:us; and he repeat:ll, that the exist-
ing laws would hive beeti.quite eulli4ieat to remedy
the existing danger, had the: Executive Government
d6c their duty. • The itepoit detailed no evidence.
It reqi:::ed irophcit conhAeace, without exhibiting.
the slightest ground .stn which tint confidence ought
to rest. This was a great steal too much to expect
from the Lossiships, itiore'eliechilly when such cirz
comstames had miser) to shake the authority of the
Report. The Noble Earl Lad. treated this part of
the subjt::: as of no importances Had not an offer
• been made to &Trove at the liar the existence tithe
identical Society, seLieh, according to the Report,
was the centre loan which emanated the danger ?
Why were ow the S:cretary of the alleged Society,
and thi• Lord Miyisr and Mr. Alderman Goodbe-
here allowed to cone to the Bar to give evidence of
the dissolution of the London Union Society this
fact was not a material one in the Report, what des..rved
to be so called It formed on t! of the foundatiopi
one of " the features," as it might perhaps by termed
in another place, of the Report. • Sh uken as that Re-
port was in so material a particular, Parliament
Oti_ght no looser to procec .1 upon it as the ground of
a Legislative measure. It was true that the Noble
Earl talked of a Sheffield Union Society, and of other
provincial Union Societies ; but the infrnm..tion
which the Committee had obtained of these Societies
was evidently of an ex-parte kind, and c• old not be
much depended on, if it were considered that the
same Committee asserted the existence of the Lon-
don Union Society, although the President and Se-
cretary were ready to testify that it had not met for
three years. The Noble Earl had made a technical
objection to his Noble Friend's motion, by saying,
that as his Noble Friend did not object to the Amend-
ments made by the Commons in this hind, he ought
to propose to put off the consideration of them. But
the Noble Earl ought to know enough of the nature
of the proceedings in drat House to be aware; that,
however a part of any measure might not be disap-
proved of by any Noble Lord, a proposition, by
which the whole measure might be got rid ot, al-
though it bore, in the first instance, only on that part,
was completely fair and allowable. Feeling as he
( Earl Grey) did, that the present was the most un-!
called fur attack ever made on the liberties of the

people, and viewing it a most dangerous precedent
w establish, if his Noble Friend pressed the question
so a division, he would certainly vote with him,
not h:cause he objected to the Amendments, but
because he wished to get rid of the Bill altoge-
ther. As to the Amendmer.ts, their Lordships ap-
peared to him to be placed in a strange situation
Did they know precisely in what way the people 01
Scotland were affected by the Bill The Noble and
Learned Loral had said that the Bill,, when it left
their Lordships' House, was precisely in the form is)
which Bills of description had been passed,
sod that it was better in its former than in
its present shape. He (Earl Grey) must take shank
to himself on this subject. He confessed, that when 1,
the Bill was before their Lordships, he had attended
entirely to its principle—mischievnns and dangerous
as he telt it to bea—and had not adverted to the de-
tails. This, indeed, be felt iris called upon to do, as
the Noble Lai who opened the measure stated, that
it was to be cohfiaid to Great Britain, a necessity.
for it not existing in Ireland ; and he naturally sup-
posed that. England and Scotland would be placed,
with reference to it, precisely in the same situation.
As that, however, was net the case, he thought their
Lordships bad a right to complain that their atteri-
tins had not been directed to the different 'situation
in which the two countries were actually placed.—
It was nothing to their Le:rdslifs that the Bill in it;
original state was in the same shape as former Bills
had been. The Tuition was,. whether that state
was a proper state at wistful For an "explanation
en this point their Lordships might seek in vain in
What had fallen from the Noble and Learned Lord.
The Noble and Learned Lord bad, indeed, said that
the Bill was infinitely worse than before, but he had
not told them to what respect it was so. Whit was'
the sitisitka of toe people of Scotland by the fihll
Wore it received any amendment I Was it better'
brersetban that of the. people of Englaed I If
woes*, why bad it bees so f If the same, would
*sir present sitnatios be better t It was rumoured
that the amendment would render the law altogether
nugatory as it respected Scotland. If
,so, the name
had a right to an explanation from the Noble and
LearnedLmd of the way in which this would be the
case. Tit danger in Scotland had been described to
be as great as the danger in England ; and yet their
Lordships were now called upon to agree to a mea-
sure without knowing whether or not it would be ef-
fectual in Scotland. Under all. thew circumstances

be must think that their Lordships were placed in an
extraordinary situations and if called upon to ions
on,bis Noble Friend's motion lie should support it
not iu hostility to the amendments, hut irons his
anxiety to take every possible opportunity of getting
rid of the 1311 i altogether.
Lord DARNLEY said a few words in explAna.
Lions after which the Noble Lord's amendment was
Ilefatived without a division.
rite Amendments made in the Eli) by the .House.
.of Commons were then agrted co ; And a message was
ordered to be sent to the House of Commons to ac-
quaint them thrrewrth.

Earl GROSVENOR, in consideration et the late.,
ness of the hour,• sod the this attendance of their
Lutd*hips, postponed until to-roorrow semi& his
motion relative to Useless o(Sces. .
The Earl of DARNLRY . referred to a recess
modals of his for the productios of accounts regime.,
tins the-qusation of Grain exported from Inlaid v
au4 .sslvated to the increasing distreues of that:l
gauntry, particularly the northers parts, with refs-ii
tones to its supply of noes. 1 he subiect he thought,
was worthy the molt serious attention of his Maw
El,
ty'aGoveransent, a be trusted, would not fait tea
receive it. The No Earl wished fer istorniatios as
to the licentious of iaisters scipectiog the stoppoit
of the distilleries,
The E..al of LIVERPOOL could assure tb

Noble Lord and the Home, that the project. of
which all were aware of the importance, was in the
most serious consideration of his Majesty's Govern-
ment, chiefly as it respected both Scotland and Ire-
land. With respect to the particular measure albs-
'led to, be thought that, under the present circorn
%mixes, its , peration world he rather injurious than
beneficial, NA it would go to throw immense advan-
t'ages into the hands of a few individuals, and go to
ii,crease the distresses of others. The Noble Earl
said a great deal of what was complained of arose
from the unfavourable state of the last harvest.
Tne Earl of LAUDERDALE admitted that the
adoption of Vie measure in question would tend to
throw immense pr, fits into the hands of a few indi •
viduals ; yet, in another point of view., he did no:
think it would be au tnded with those disadvantages
which the Noble Earl contemplated ;.and fibserved,
it 'would be for the interest of such persons to give
the highest prices for the best grain.
The Earl of DARNLEY spoke shortly is expla-
nation. He felt the question of ra much importance,
that he should deem it his duty, ere lung, to subinit
some propositions on the subject to the I.Luse.
Adjourned till to-morrow.
HOUSE OF COMMONi.

Lord LASCELLIIS po,tponed his motion relative rn the alte-
ration of the Pont Lawi,aa arrtting the Proprietori of Mine,-
1114 I .ordship did not fix any day for brit:ging till II • nuonur, bl't
Wished it to be positively untirr.tood that he would brittg it on
this Session, as he portputied it merely in eutnpLNutew2h PAC-
ral application* which bad Isom mule to Lim by bevtrai praprti-
tors of mine,.

Mr. BENNETT rationed, it Thursday, the 13th !mt. Ma
motion reqn..ct Mg the appointment of Mr. Herrin.
I Lord SLANI.kty prr•ented a Petition truth the IMianitants of
Roythn, ntainst the Habeas eorptit,Suspenaitin Bill, which was
read and ordered to Ile on the tattle.

A new Writ war ordered tur the Election of a Burgess tonne
in this Ptirliaintin fur the Borough of Tavistock, in the roortrof
I.ord John

CANN ACT.

Sir E. KNATCHBULL rose to call the atten-
tion of the House to the Bill which had been intro-
duced by an Honourable and Learned Gentleman
(Sir S. Rontilly), fur the repeal of the Game Act of
last year. As he thought that the total repeal of
that Act would be productive of many serious incon-
veniences, he wished, that instead of the Bill tot the
total repeal of the Act, there should be introduced
one which would repeal the objectioniLle parts of the
Act, while it would modify and continue in force the
beneficial provisions of it. It woad' certainly be
very proper to impose the penalties of the Act of last
year against persons going erased at night for the
purpose of destroying game. As he did not antici-
pate any objection to such a Bill, he moved for leave
to bring in a Bill for the prevention of going
armed at night for the purpose of destroying game,
and for repealing the Act of last year, relating to
Rogues and Vagabonds. —The motion was agreed to,
and the Billbrouightiiiand read a fitst time.

Sir E. RNATtH BULL then said, that he did
not intend to hurry the. Bill throu,4ll the Heuses and',
therefore would not appoint a very early day for the
second reading.
Sir S. ROMILLY hoped that the Bill would be
read a second time on some early day, as it would
be very improper that the Game Act of last year,
which it was on all hands agreed should be repealed,,
should be allowed to remain in force when the up-
proaching Qaarter Sessions commenced.
The 2d reading was then fixed for Wednesday neat.
1 Mr. M. FITZGERALD rose to move for some
papers relative to the Fisheries of Ireland. From the
experience of the existing laws, relative to
,the.
Fisheries, he said it was quite clear that so long es
they continued in torte, no proper fishery could be
ezptcted on the coasts of Ireland. He said his mind
was so completely made up am this subject, that un-
less some of his Majesty's Ministers brought tor wasif
sonic measure relative to it, be would himself find it
is duty soon to cell the attention of the House to it.
He then moved that these be laid before the House
copies of the Reports. made to the Irish House of
Commons in 178* and 1785, relative to the Irish
Fisheries.—The motion was agreed to.
Mr. COURTNEY (at the request of Mr. M.
FVUOIJIALU)s agreed to postpone the second reading
of the Irish Grand Juries Bill till such time as it
should be convenient fair the Irish Members to attend.

LASCASIOMB PETITIOX.
Mr. WILBRAHAM BOOTLErose for the pur-
pose of presenting a Petition, numerously signed by
the Magistrates, Clergy, Freeholders, and other inha-
bitants of the Hundred of Blackburn, ib the County
Palatial: of Lancaster, expressing their abhorrence of
the conduct of those who, under the mask of Reform,
were eadeavouriog to subvert the Constitution—who
had emissaries at work all over the kingdom,. eadea-
souring, by every art, to inflame the populace, and
stir them op to acts of violence, and carrying about
Petitions seedy made for the purpose of procuring'
the people by any means to sign them. The Peti-
tion prayed the House not to consider that the feel-
ings of the great body of the people were expressed
in such Petitions. The Honourable Gentleman then
stated that the Meeting at which this Petition was
agreed to, was most numerously and respectably at-
tended, and that it might be considered as expressing ,
the sentiments of the great body of the inhabitants. ot
Lancashire. He then mentioned that this Meeting
was first appointed to be held in the Town Hall at
Preston, but that on the day fixed for its taking',
place, the Hall.doors were no sooner opened than a
great body of the populace rushed in and filled the
Hall, to the exclusion of the more respectable part of
the people ; and that when the place or assembly was
tints filled, an Address was agreed to, which was
quits contrary to the general feeling of the' people.
He moved that the Petition be brought up.
This Petition was then brought up and read,
' On the question that it should lie on the table,
Lord STANLEY protested against its being sup.'
posed that this was the petition of the people of Lan.
cubit., or that it expressed the sentiments of any
other persons belonging to that county than those by
whom it was signed.- Ho did not mean to deny that
the meeting at which this petition was agveed to, was
composed of very respectable persons, but be could
Laid, say that be bad never heard of that meeting,
nor did he understand that there had been any other
public meeting of the itsbabitants of Laucisshire than
that other mentioned by-the Honourable Gontielpan, I
He therefore could not understand why this petition
as to be coesideted as that of the County of law-
erste( is peers!. The other impedes; so fns, from
being composed of the lowest of the populace, was
most numerously and respectably attended; it was',

the piblic meeting of the county. held pursuant to
a requisition signed by the High Sheriff of the county
end the Address agreed to at it was signed by the
High Sheriff. The House would therefore judge,
whether that Address or this Petition was to be c,n-
sidered as containing the most t iir expression of the
sentiments of the people of Lancashire in gtneral.
He had not the slightest uhlection to the present pc-
, titian being laid on the table.
Mr. CAWTHORN maintained that this petition
expressed the sentiments of by far the greater parr-
ot the people tit Lanzaslote ; and c•alf•iimed the.
1 statement made by his I-I-now:able Friend (Mr. Wil-
lbraham) as to the other meeting. Tne Hall at which
then other meeting was held was alirinq entirely tiled
by people of the lowest order, and the Ad.ir:ss era.
gin Airy moved there was rejected, and an amend.
ment to it moved, and carried by the majority. It
' would be great injustice to the greet body of the
Ipeople of Lancashire to consider such an Address as
1 e:ipressive of their feelings s an Address carried at a
meeting of the lower Indus., who, he endesstood,
i were harangued by a mischievous person of the name
of Casey, an Irish renegado—(llear, Lair, and crier
of Order, from the illoceition)—Le was rot afraid to
repeat it—an Irish tenegedo and a jacobin•-• (Hear,
h:ar, wed Order).-.What the amecdmert was he did
i not exactly !crow, but he was sure it did not s:seek
1 the f,•elings of the freeholders of Preston ; and he
i would venture to say, that there were not twenty ,
Itreeholderi who voted for it, although it was carried.
"lhe petition now before the House, on the colitraty.,
i was agreed to at a numerous and most respectable '
meeting of the Magistrates, Clergy, and Freeholders,
and he would pledge himself that it spoke the feel-
ings of the great majority of the inhabitants tit the
County of Lancaster.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, it had often been ob-
served, that to be praised by him who is the object
of all men's commendations is seldom the lot of any
one, even of the most deserving. Certainly it had
not been the lot of that worthy man, Mr. C asry.—
But a more respectable member of the commercial
world, in which he long was, did not exist on
'Change, or in any other place wh.:re commercial
men are in the habit of meeting. He certainly had
been unfortunate. but so far from thinking his inis
fortunes any cause of reproach, he (NU. 8., ugharo)
thought they ought rather to have t.cr...ened him from
the attack of the Honourable Geode:um. Whether
thatGentkman had acted a mischievous part on the
occasion alluded to, depended on the optaion which
each single man might have formed. as to the princi.
pies of which Mr. Casey had been a" poaerlol and
so successful an advocate, for powerful he certainty
was, and his success could not be denied; for it he
had not beau successful, his name would nit have
been mentioned in the titute this night. But to
call him a renegado—(//ear, hear, hear, fro,: the (Wm-
tifion) was so monstrous, and would be so inconve-
nient, if applied to all those who left Ireland, or,
who left their principles—(hear, Lear, hear), that he
really wondered very much that the honourable
Member for Lancashire, with all his Parliamentary
experience, should have used such language. Such
an attack upon an individual for whom he (Mr.
Brougham) would hereschtim praise for his uniform,
consistent, and manly conduct in public (and in pri-
vate life his character was not loss praiseworthy),
was. to say the least of it. very extraordinary. Nat
Ives extraordinary was the attack made upon the
meeting at Preston, because the Address, which was
then agreed to, did not meet the wishes of the Mover
and Seconder of the original Address. He spoke
from good infdrmation when he said that that
meeting at Preston bad been most numerously and
respectably attended. And if the Address agreed to
at it was not signed by twenty freeholders, as the
Honourable Gentleman had rashly, and as he (Mr.
Brougham) thought, erroneously asserted, then the
High Sherd had acted a boost extraordinary part in
signing that Address. His (Mr. Brougham's) au-
thority, without meaning any disrespect to the Hon.
Gentleman, west as high as the authority of that Hu-
nourable Gentleman s and, as to a question of tact,
was worthy of as 'rat credit, and 'lion* it he Affirmed
that the meeting at which the Address bad been
agreed to, wai numerously and respectably attended ;
and that the Address was agreed to by a great Wk.
jurity of that meetiag, and she proof of this was,
that the High Sheriff had affixed his name to that
Address—s(Rear, hear.) •
Mr. BAKING observed, that the Rome was lia-
ble to be imposed on by petitions, signed by the lowest
rabble, .and . purporting to express the sense of a
great proportion of the people of different counties—
(Near, hu.) He therefore thought it highly desir-
able that there should be some Legislative enactment
to regulate County Meetings, called for the purpose
of petitioning Parliament, u he knew himself several
instances in-whish a few active and mischieious iii-
cubism were going abbut collecting signatures from
the lowest rabble, to Petitiims drawn up by them-
selves, and purporting to be agreed to at numerous
and respectable Meetings of the inhabitants of Coun-
ties—(Hear, hear.) The right of petition would be
best secured by some Legislative enactment, to pre-
vent
such impositions.
Mr. BIRCH denied that the Petition no* before
the House could be considered as expressing the sen-
timents of any greater part of the people of Lancashire
than those who signed it, who were not all, but some ;
of the magistrates, clergy, freeholders, and others, of :
the Hunched of Blackburn. Now lie would be plat!
to know how many of those others were .. • •
cotton-spinners, and such like,o j•ltirricytneo
th7C:ll7 (inisarcs•tt Ores, , I drumuac!.
them sign by dint, perhaps,
Mr. Cawthorn.) The Honourable Gentleman the,: i
spoke in favour of the character of Mr. Casey, %%hid) i
is vindicated from the imputations a the HO. • ' 1e I . ....)arau
Gentleman (.Mr. Cawthorn.)
Mr. WILBRAHAM BOOTLE explained.
The Petition was then ordered to lie on the table.
pßplol.ki,
zeATE slit. HORNER. •
Lord M
in rising to move that•a new
writ be issued for the election of a Member for the
Borough of St. Manes, in the room of the. late.
Francis Horner, Esq. believed that he might'lle al-
lowed (although it might perhaps be rather an un-
usual cMuse) to trespass for a short while on the time
of the House—(lhar, hear.) He said unusual, be-
cause, without instituting any comparison, he wished
tO say a few, words as to the character.of his departed
friead—(Neer, hear. hear.) That Gentlemkri hav-
ing been fax some time unable, 'from bad health, to
apply to the labours of his profession, or to hie I'ar-

liamentary duties, wen induced to try the effect of .
milder climate. But the hope failed, and the remedy
was unavailing. He fell A victim to a langoishine
dis.e.e. Yet, under the pressure of heavy indisno.i.
time he preserved ited•rrenishrd the serenity et i
'cram, and the vie our aild firmness of his milli.
It he (Lied Misrp: th) nt:plit he petreitted, wittioto
traveling to. far into OA: path of private lite, to Ile
lice titcoe virtues which embel.:i.hett the private cha-
, ratter of his it lent', he might say, that :IS a son no I
as a brother, he was the most exemplary —as aft tend,
the most faithful and kind. These ware view.:
which I e knew could not come within the coesidere
thin of- the House ; but when they were (as in thin
case) interwoven with a public clic :icier, they becarna
etabhe propt•ry—(Erar. hear.) But as to the pull;..
character of his friend, lie might confidently app, ~
to that profession- of which he had been se eitte•
et:ivied an ornament—he might appeal to this
House. where he was alweys heard with feeling, cr
admiration—(Hear, hear, hear, from €t I tides of the
Howe.) He might be allowed rectal!), to say, that
he had raised the edifice of his owe fair fumy on tie
firm basis of rectitude and conscientious honour. Ar-
dent its the pursuit of trtrh—tealous in the cause re'
buumeity, he was inflexible in that of punier ; and
the expression of his opini,•ns in this house, he em.
played that citable and simple, but at the same time,
nervous and affecting style, which seemed toe in.
bine the fame and precision of legal *regiment with
Ithe irfinemeist and elegance of philosophy. It would
nut be necennaty for him tri say any dell as to his
political opinions, to conciliate or 'to prosoke ob.
ser-ations from Members on the other side of the
Heuse—( Hear, hear.) But lie was sure, that what-
ever tlifferetice there might have been in their pr-
Ltical opinions. it must now be forgotten—.(Hare.
hear, hear.) They would allow that the man ah. se
Liss ttey now depiored, had carver, by au) means,
armed at undue popularity—(H.7or, hear. hear.)--
It would be allowed that the expressit•ii A his opi.
nions, however manly and devil: d. was never tinc-
tured with any thing like I,e:urinal ii.veclivr. (Aar.;
And yet, successful as his exertions had bet a in that
House and elsewhere, considering the contracted span
of his life, they could early be considered as the liar.
liiitgers of his future fame—as off rding ar earnest
of what was to be expected from the maturity of his
talents. But al as ! his carter was prematurely closed..
His death was a lush to his family. a loss to his friends,
' a fuss to his country, in any times i f no ordinary
magnitude, but in times like the ;resent must severely
to be eel,. He had studied the b ructure i 1 our Con.
oitution, and deeply contt:nplated ever) branch of
the polsecs el hes countiy, sometimes with the view
of exposing its dt Teets, and sometimes to point out its
iierfectiutis. Amidst the deepness of our sorrow for
such a loss, it was SOW Coll3olAtitn to think, that a
min not possessed of hereditary tank or fortune.
should, by his own talents, be able to vindicate to
himself a situation in sactety, of which th. se barn to
the highest honours and the greatest wealth mutt
have been proud. (Hear, hear ) The Noble Lord
concluded amid chests horn alt parts of the House, by
beggiug•pardon, not for havine introduced the sub-
!
ct, but for having done it su iineerftctly. He then
moved .• That a new Writ be issued for the electian
‘,/ a Member to serve in the present Parliament for
the Borough of St. Masse., is the room of Francis
Horner, Esq. deceased."
' Ms. CANNING.—Of all the cases in which that
course had been pursued which his Noble Frieud had
entered upon this night, and u hich he had gone
through with so much elosetence and g. od taste, be.
could I ecollect no inst once its which it could be so sore
to conciliate the good will of Members on all sides of
the House—(Hear, hear, hear.) He (Mr. Canning)
had not the happiness of the personal and private ac.
quaintance of him whose loss they now lamented—
he knew him only in ibis House ; and for the risen
last years he had not the good fortune to witness Is::
more splendid and mature efforts. But he had a:-
aay s admired the learning and acuteness which Is
displayed—hi. temperate and manly eloquence—de
genuine warmth of his feelings, when into warmth la
was bera)ed—and, added to all these. the modesty
with which he bore his faculties, which, accompanied
by that firmness and bononr which were so conspe.
cuous in his character, cenciliated e.e good-will, and
commanded the respect of all, whether in the die
charge of his profeel.nal or P.oliementai y dirties—
(aster, hear.) He could nut conclue:e without adop-
ting the oeservatien of Isis Noble Friend, that it would
he ungracious to nee any remembrance of differences
in political opimens well the ether feelings erei:ed os
tf.is eccasion. But When he heard this 11Jrough now
for the second time brought forward at vacate by the
loss of splendid talents, he ought, as some consnlai
tion for ,the theoretical defects of our Coustitieite.
sbew that it worked well when it sent into this Hem
men who, gifted by nature with high tams. ?Mgr.:
these have en opportunity of developing or matures.
these. so as to be.:ome the sustainers of the couticus
and of the glory o• t' air counny —(11w, hree,itar.)
Mr. MANN E kL3 ;.u.r.r(iN said, that i: h .d been
his fortune for several years to have enjoyed the `t:-
vale friendslhp of that distinguished men, whose lets
the House and she Country had now to•deplore. No
change of cirentristances could diminish the regard,
the rove:fence, the affection, which he felt for dad e:•
teenier man. What V•eNable Lied had 40 elocoei".7
st.oed would enalilie the House to appreciate more
1 doeply the loss whi.h it had sustaintd. It was tie:
• •
lady to the.e timer, !vein all times, that the loss d
such a combination of integrity and of :-*.ents was a
evere public calamity—(Hear, hear; hear.) Ti.'
ii;eht Heneurable G.ntleman who spoke last i'"
11.1meri'od that ho did not kno a the private chmetche
iof Mr. Horner; bu: tere was no man who did Ott
i itpuw parr is private life, who had not witnessed tlu
m.:ny •vit tuts that adorned his private life, that geed
guess what a chains be had left its the circle of his
friends. There never lived a man of whom it coed
more truly- be said, that where he was known in pa-
tio lite he was respected and admired—in private life
tie was esteemed and loved. He was anxious that
the House should hear him say these few words. Is 4.
discharge of a debt, nut so much of go&tude as c•
justice, to the memory of so dear a friend—(Cian
from all /welt of the House.)
Mr. C. W YNNE.—Atter what have he, n oloodr
said, he was afraid it might appear prestenruouste:
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f'i'lch distinguished his private arid public life. The
p !Mit character of Mr. Horner was more distinguished
thin that of any man whom he had ever known, for
its gegleness. He never exkillited any heat—never
did any indiscreet warmth betray him into any ex.
pret.ion wliich he might afterwards regret. His loss
rill: Leary loss to the country--.tolus friends it was
irrepitAe•
A. S VIIUEL ROMILLY.—Having had the
~IT • •
igTl3;l•-•%• of a long and moat intimate friendship
with Mr. Homer, he was desirous of saying a few
words on this most distressing occasion, as to his
‘7,,ces, not as a private but as a puhl c man. What
b, (;ir Samuel) always considered insist valuable in
103, was the independence of bib character. It was
t\lr injepentkoCe. sel.i.:ll, while he was storing his
sea with information on all subjects of economy...a
jobl.t and foreign politics—while lie was taking a
Tut is u:e discussions in this Haase, made him, at
the sane time, continue the painiul and laborious
practice...t a profession in which (high as was his
enaractir in it) be (Sir S muel) never thought his
merits se.te sufficiently acknowledged ; and he con-
tinned the practice of his profession as a means of in-
ilvendence. (Hear, hear ) Within the last twelve
Ices nos house had suffered the loss of some of the
greatest public characters that had adorned the
country. But in the present loss there was something
that ilistinguished it from the others. TM other
great men vie. had been lost during the period which
he raentiomd,h id attained the meridian of their fame
and glory. But wl.cn he recollected how in each
s...sces,ditig Jeo ,slop t! e. eloquence of his excellent
hiend had acquired new force—how his mind had
attained new powers—how his intellectual faculties
I. +.l been improved, it was easy to see that he had not
niched the distinguished station to which he was
rapidly advancing. But eloquence, however distin-
guished, was in itself a subject of vain. admiration -
it was the cad and object for which it was employed
that made it valuable. The enfranchisement of the
slave—the relief of the poor—to extend the means of
education, and the improving the condition of man-
kind—it was by devoting it to such objects that it
became a public virtue. To these ends alone it was
that that admirable man had applied those high
riTers with which Heaven had endowed him.—
(Hear, bear, rata al /tarts of the Hague.)
Mr. W. ELLIOT.—Among so many others he
could not deny himself the melancholy satisfaction of
Inkling his humble tribute of esteem and affection to ,
the n.cm.ry of that excellent man, whose loss so
tinily now deplored. His enlightened mind, his ex-
etllent talents, his admirable integrity, his sober zeal,
Ins chaste eloquence, rendered him one of the greatest
sir:mg/lents of this !louse, as well as of the profession
to which he belonged, and a finished model to the ,
wising generation. The loss of such a man, at such
si time, who ci.old attempt to estimate ? He had
been withdrawn from this world at a time when his
!merits were most deeply felt, though certainly not
yet fully developed, and when his country had the
reatest need of such eminent talents and integrity.—
( (kering from all 'tarts of the Howe )
Mr. C. GRAN I', jun.—Having bad the gond
fortut.a to know Mr. Horner even before he had be-
come a Member of this House, he could not deny
himself the gratificatioa oi adding one or two words
to the ample testimonies of the virtues of that la-
xneuted man. It was pleasing to observe, that what-
ever diffc:snce of opinion might exist in the House
on ordinary occasions, they could all lay them aside
to unite ou a subject, in which, in common with the
cousin), they had sustained so heavy, so irreparable
loss. But it was not merely his talents, transcendent
as they were, whidi commanded the admiration of
tits House. If the first charm of his oratory was its
' philosophical spirit, its second charm was his lode.
ruddier—his noble and exalted sentiments of virtue.
If to these were added his private virtues, it would
be agreed that the House never was called to deplore
a loss more severe—( &aro Hear). However high
his public virtues, those which he 'hewed among his
friends and his family- were on a level with them—
(Hear, hear, hear).
Lord LASCELLES could not refrain from stating
in public those ',clings of admiration and respect for
the character of Mr. Horner which he had constantly
expressed in private. He, in common wish all those
who had spoken, telt that by his death, the country
bad sustained a most extreme loss; and though, on
the present question, the House could not be able to
come to any decision on the merits of Mr. Hornet's
character, yet he was sure, that if the sentiments of
the House could be taken by a vote on that subject,
it would.he quite unanimous.—(Ckeriegfrolo all lhou
sills Bolue.)—The motion was then agreed to.
LOTTERY.
Mr. LYTTELTON, seeing the Chancellor of the
Exchequer in his place, wished to ask him a question,
which it was necessary to put immediately. He had
received information that notice was given on the
Stock Exchange that it was the intention of the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer to. contract to-morrow for a
ace Lottery ? The Honourable Gentleman thought,
from what took place last Session, and from the no-
tice of a discussion in this, that this measure was pre-
cipitate, and wished to know from the Right Hon. I
Gentleman if the information he had received was
correct ? If incorrect, the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer should disclaim it.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that nothing was in contemplation but what was
ordered by the act of last year.

PEAPKTY TAX.
Lord STANLEY wished to know whether it was
iattrded to keep up the offices of Inspectors of the
Property Tax, who had been appointed with salaries
of £lOOO a year, when the Property Tax was raised
to ten per cent?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER,
in answer to the Noble Lord's question. begged leave
to refer him to the Report of the three Coamussionere
for tb.. reduction of Offices, which had lately been
laid before the House, sad by which it appeared that
all those Inspectors were to be reduced bath the excep-
tiou of three, sod the reason why *these three were to
be &tin kept up would be loudd stated in that Report.
ORDInt ON TUX BATH.
Mr. BENNETT wished to know whether there
//at not some mistake in the return made of the sums
psid to Officers for fees on Orders of the Bath, as it
aPPesred by the return that 12000 had been paid as
the fees foe six Companions of the Valli and the cc.
turn of sums paid by the Treasurer of the Nay was
ell. He then moved that there be laid helots tbC

House an account of the digtribntion of all sums'
issued by the Paymaater-General, the Treasurer of'
the Navy, or any other public department, to defray
the expenses of fees on Peerages, or Orders of Kn;ghs-
hood, from February 1, 1815, to Sept. I'4 1816.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said he hAd no obilction to the motion. He , ok it
for granted that the return which had been oretented
to the HOUlle WAS quite correct. The todioar) f.es,
as he underatiod, on the Otter of the Bids, were
trim t3OO to £4OO. Al) these fees were Ito
Oacers of the Navy in the same way As to Officers
in the Army.

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Mr. BROUGHA NI wished to ask a question rela-
tive to the Lisbon Commission for Auditing Public
Accounts, the expense ot which altogether appeared to
be about sfl7,(km or AlB,ooo,_year. For two years
ands halt its expenses were £-1.0,000, and the amount
of Accounts audited was only abut al,(x)aou,
which was an expense to the public of above in per
cent. for the amount of Public Accounts audited.—
At this rate, it the Lisbon Accounts amounted to
fifty millions, the expense rf auditing there alone
would cost the public abc‘ttt two millions. The first
item iti the Account was the S Clary of the Auditor-
General of this Cornmision, which was sirS,ooo a-
year ; and it was stated that he received under the
Act of the 461 ot the King 81,5100 a-year. and
XIV for house rent. He wished to know if the
sa:ary of el,::00 was to be continued during that
Officer's stay at Lisbon?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
s that upon 'he face of the Account, it appeared
that the Auditor-General received the whole of these
allowances, which, considering the heavy expenses to
hich he was subjected, was but jit,t. He admitted
that the expenses of this Commission were great, but
the advantages to the public service were propor-
tionably great. It was expected that the whole
amount of the expense of this Commission, till its
termination, would be about 5e1,000,600.
Mr. CANNING said he was well aware of the dit.
ficulties of getting through these most complex ac-
counts, and could bear testimony to the able way in
which the Auditor-General, Mr. Dawkins, executed
an invidious and most laborious office.
Mr. BROUGHAM desired not to be understood
as saying one word against Mr. Dawkins, whom he
understood to be a must deserving public officer.
Mr. BARING bore testimony to the ability with
which Mr. Dawkins executed the duties of his office,
and spoke highly of the utility of this Commission.

bEDITIDVD sizaTlNCis
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL ro e to move the
second reading of this Bill. and said that those who
were satisfied from the Report of the Secret Com-
mittee that extensive and dangerous conspiracies and
combinations existed, would be setistied of the neces-
sity ot such a Bill, The oniy Meetings which it was
Litendeu to prevent were such as had not the sanction
of a certain number of Magistrates, and which were
not convened according to certain forms, which the
Bill would prrscritie. The Bill permits a Meeting to
be demanded by any seven householders, who ate to
give in their names, that it may be known who they
are. The Learned Gentleman explained the other
regulations of the Bill, which went to prevent the
propounding of any seditious matter at any such
Meetings, and which would cause the persons whti
propounded it to be taken up. He proceeded to
strew that there was the same necessity for the Bill
-now as in the year 1796. He should propose ad ad-
ditional clause for preventing Meetings demanded byl
seven householders from being adjourned, in order
that there might be proper notice given of every
Meeting as an original one—(Hear. lost, hear.)—
This would prevent large bodies of people from being
kept in a state of fancied contiguity, if be might so
call it. The object of the therefore, was not to
touch any fair and legitimate Meetings, but only to pre
vent or check such as were of .1 mischievous tendency.
Another object was, to prevent Debasing Societies,
or rooms for reading Newspapers—(f/w, Istar,)—
th. keepers of *lrish receive money. This was the
purport of the law in 1796 ; hut winch being found
ineffectual, was amendedin 1799. But as the regu-
lations respecting these rooms were contained in the
36th of the King, when that Act expired, that of the
S9:11 expired al,o. The second object of the Bill
was, therefore, intended to unite the intentions of the
two Bills just alluded to." It was not intended, to
make these regulations perpetual, but only temporary;
namely, for three years, and to the end of the then
next Session of Parliament. The statute of 1799 had
tor its object the suppression of certain societies spe-
cified by name, and others constituted in a particular
way ; such as those that administered oaths and
tests, or those which had branches and delegates.--
But that statute did not touch the great evil of cer-
tain societies of the present time, such as those for
inducing people to commit acts of insurrection against
the Government, through the means of what they
called delegates, committees, or missionaries, to con-
fer nith other societies. Thew were to be declared
unlawful combinations, and the object of the Bill
was to prevent the evils that arise from them. Another
object of the Bill was, to suppress the Spencean So-
cieties, whose principles were totally incompatible
with any civilised state of society, or any regular
system of government. The same exceptions in the
49th of. the King, respecting the Lodges of Free.
masons, &c. would be admitted in the reseal Bill.
In fact it was not intended to affect any societies but
such as were evidently constituted for the purposes of
mischief, having in view the overturning the Govern-
ment, and destroying whatever matt holds VAlltable
in society.

Mr. YONSONBY expressed his willingness to post-'
pone the full discussion. Of this measure to the future
stages which would be presented in the Committee,
and on the third reading. It was not easy to under-
stand the precise nature of such a measure at'present,
oompounded as it was of the acts,'erith several new
addiuttas. certainly wan not swath of any 'ob-
jection to the'proilsion with regard to the seven house-
Holders t and 'did not thilik it could operate so as to
interfere, injurioostr with the constitutional right of
the subject to 'inlaid the Legislature for a redress of
grievaUces:' Ile should deem it his ditty, however,
to offer some suggestions on other parts of the Bill in
the.Cortimittei s after Which the principle would be
bitter understood, and Might be diluted, on the third
reading..* In' the mean time, he would call the linen-
dad of thy Honourable and ' Learned Gentleman to
two clauses in the Ac: of 1799, one of which was, in

his opinion, calculated to do good, by inducing those
who had been mistaken to retire from those societies
'pins• which the law was Row tor be directed. H-
th..ught also, another clause, iirst;tiog the period within
which actions, against Magistroites Mr their cond,oct
under this Act could be brought, might be very pro-
p:Hy advted. The Bill, he must likewise observe,
4s it stood at present, appeared to him to be very
loosely worded.

Mr. CALVERT stated, that a most respectable
and numerous meeting of the irhabitatits cf South-
werk had just taken place, for the purpose of peti-
tioning Parliament against the suspension of the
Htbeas Corpus Act fbut.fieding that it was om late
to adopt this proceeding, the Bill having been already
read a third time, they had determined, without one
dissenting voice, to petition the. House against any
further encroachments on the Constitution--(Hear.)
Under these circumstances, and agreeing entirely
with the unanimous vote of his constituents, lie must
feel himself constrained to take the sense of the Hoose
upon this early stage in the progress of the measure.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT, although he felt no
desire to anticipate the discussion. which might be
taken with more advantage perhaps on a subsequent
occasion, felt it right to declare, that he should oppnse
the principle. as contrary to the conditions stipulated
for the Subject in the Bill of Rights. With regard
to the propriety of putting down Political Clubs, he.
felt satisfied that the measure was resorted tai merely
lin consequence of the numerous Petitions which had
been received on the subject of Parliamentary Remit).
Nothing was more common, when a public grievance
was pointed riot, than to say, the public make no
complaint of it. The Public do, however, •it last
complain pretty loudly ; but he did not think that
their voice on that account ought to be stifLd. it
appeared to him, that if the Government were con.
scions of acting with integrity towards the People,
they could nut feel so much alarm at any expressvii
of the popular voice. There were not less than GOO
Petitions on the Boor, and he believed there never
was an instance of a people displaying so much pa-
tience, good order, and obedience to the laws, under
the pressure of so much distress. Their conduct took
away every pretence for infringing the Constitution ;
and he was surprised that the absurdity of the Spen-
cean doctrines did not render Gentlemen ashamed of
expressing any apprehensions from such a Calif!.
Lord W. RUSSELL conceived it to be his duty,
as a representative, bound to defend the purses and
liberties of his constituents, to enter his protest against
the present measure. He would elite' fully give to
the Government all tke recurity that was vinsisteut
with the principles of the Constitution; but he con-
sidered that the House had already, by suspending
the law of Habeas Corpus arid trial by Jury. give".
them as much power as pie Romans gave to a dicta-
tor, when they directed him to provide ne gaud resta-
lira detriment; capiat.
The Hon. Mr. LAW contended, that the Bill, in-
stead of taking away the right of petition, gave the
right of free discussion. He could nut but observe,
however, that it contained no provision to hieder
Meetings from being held in places very near each
other on the same day. Such a clause, he thought.
would be very desirable, in order to prevent combi-
nations which might distract the attention of the Ma-
gistrates, and of the civil and military force of the
couniry-eee. hearen thellopaitiee.)
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, that in passing a
law of this nature, the House should have under their
consideration every provision intended to be intro-
duced, and not leave it to a period when they could
not go into the discussion. The Bill seAs now in a
very imperfect state, and, therefore, he should nor
pronounce his opinion on it till he saw it amended in
the Committee. Qn this ground he gave his assent
to the second reading.
Mr. CA Lvetur then said, that not wishing to set
up his own judgment against the opinions of both sides
of the House, he would not insist on a division.

Some conversation took place between Mr. BIN-
NET, Lord CAsTLIIIZAOH, and Mr. Cocoas', respect.
ing the going through the committal of the Bill then
Aro forma; but on the suggestion of Lord Came-
iteacit, Use committal was fixed far to-morrow...

Mr;BENNE 1' adverted particularly to the Clauses
of the Bill that related to Reading Rooms. It would
be' a must harsh measure to interfere with the inter.
cinitse and cammuoication these places afforded. In
the town which he had the honour to represent there
was such an establishment for the conveaience of the
inhabitants, and though he suspected the conduct of
his Majesty's Ministers was rather sharply canvassed
there. yet he should hope, that would not operate to
deprive the people of the convenience which these
rooms afforded. With respect to the Preamble of
the Bill, it was a gross libel on the People of Eng-
land. It stated that as fact, whica every man who
heard him, indeed the whole country, knew to be
false—(Hear, hthr).—What said the Preamble ?.+.
44 Whereas Assemblies of divers persons collected for
the purpose, or wider the pretext of deliberating on
public-grievances, and of agreeing on Petitions, &c.
to his Royal Highness the Ps ince Regent, or to either
House of Parliament, have of late been made use of
to serve the ends of factious and seditious persons, to
the great danger and disturbance of the public peace.
have produced acts of riot, tumult, and disorder, and
may become the means of producing confusion and
I calamities in the Nation." Now he begged to putt it
to the House to say, whether the popuhr Meetings
lately held in various parts of the country, were not
remarkable for the quiet and ordetir demeanour of
the people assembled I—(Hear, /star). —l' et this Bill
called upon the House to pass a sweeping cond:intia-
uon against these Meetings.
Sir M. W. RIbLEY rose and said, that he wished
to have some explanation from the Attorney-General
respecting the meaning and operation of that clause
in the Bifls which, as it appeared to him, would pre-
vent persons from resorting to any rooms for the pur-
pose of 'reading books, pamphlets, and the daily jour-
odds. The words of that clause, as applicable to this
particular subject, were es follows 1-4* And whereas
divers places.have of late been used, under the pre-
team of being places of meeting, for the purpose 01
reading Books, Tracts, Pamphlets, Newspapers, or
other Publications ; be it•enacted, that every house,
room, or place, which shall be opened or used as a
place of meeting for the purpose of reading books,
paMplikts, newspapers,
. or other publications, and to
which any person shall be admitted by payment of
money, or by any ticket or token of any kind, deli-
vered -in consideration of money, or other valuable

thing, or in consegnence of paying, or givingi..lo
having paid or given, or having agreed to para.,.
give any money or other valuable thing, or where.
any m ner or In her, valuable thing skill be receilkdr
from any person admitted, either under pretonces Ott
for any other cause, or by means of any device r
contrivance whatever, chall be deemed a di:orderly
holt:, or piste. unless theitame shall have been
ously licensed, in manner hertinafter mentioned ;"
—(that is to say, by a justice of the peace, tor
which licence a fee Uf

shall be paid) ; 14 and the person by whom such
house, room, or place shall be opened or used for any
of the purposes aforesaid, shall forfeit the sum of
law every day rir time that such house, root's,
or place, shall be opened or used as of eeseid, to such
person as will sue for the same, and be otherwise pa.
nished as the law directs in cases of dirord.die hews ;
•
and every person furnishing or delivering any book.
pamphlet. newspaper, or other pubiicemin as afore.
said ; and also every person who shall pay, give.
collect, or receive, or agree to pay, give, collect,
receive any money, or any thing for or in respect ef
the admission of any person into any such houses
room, or place, shad, for every such offence. Maroc
the sum of " Now, as the Heeourehle
Baronet read this clause, he conceived that it went to
prevent persons from resorting to readieg rooms and
circtilatine libraries, for the pu: pose of reading news.
papas and books, which would I.c A mast us: warren.
table oppression of the suhje:t. in in-: town in which
lie livid there was a reaeling mom, which war fre.
quently attended by the most respectable persons
and yet, under this clause, the person who kept it,
and the p irties who resosted to it, (laciest. iedeed. it
were regularly licensed, which appeared to him to be
a very arbitrary mode of collecting meney), (Hear)
would be treble to be prosecuted. (itor,
But this was not his only objection to this Bill; le
objected to the preamble, which was a libel o.r the
whole people of England ? It asserted that wh;en
was not true; for he maintained, from all that he had
seen or heard on the sterject, that in none of the
meetings, held tor the purpose of petitioning, had
any acts of riot, tumult, or dis rder tarn place. The
riot in the hletrnpolis, on which the Sestet Committee
had founded a great part of their Report, did not
commence in Spefields, but was committed by some
disorderly perverts. *whose object was totally uncon-
nected with the purposes fur which meetings had been
celled in almost every part of the Kingdom— (Rect..)
Lord cockittAN,g presented hitusett to the no.
Lice of the H ruse in- ord:r to read an extract from a
letter which he heti received trim a person at Glis-
gow, rel itive to the object fee wh;cli the meeting its
that city had been held, and to shear the manner is
which sunie of the persons had betel treated. The
postscript stated, e that it was merely the intention
of the persons assembled to devise some method for
procuring parochial re.iet, which was n ,t granted in
that country in :he same inatwer .is in Ferglend."—.
The Committee df Glasgow did. in the most so-
lemn manner, declare, that no Spencean societies
had ever existtd iIY that City—nor bed they ever
heard of the name of the Spenceans tie they read dein
in the Newspaper."—(blear, hear, and a kosh )
" One Gentlenaan. however, a man ot reci-,et
character. and a usefel mettte:r of society, had be,•n
seized is his own home, at one o'clock ill the merit-
ing, whence he was dragged from his wile and ft.
mily, and then thrown into a dungeon, where he lay
on a damp floor for two nights. He was then met—
mined, and nothing having been proved against him,
he was liberated"—(Hear, laar.)—" Another G.eirlr.
man had been treatee in the same manner, and was
afterwards restored to liberty." The writer then obe
served, that the reign of Terror had commenced, and
that the people were exceedingly indignant at the at-
tempts to ensnare the unwary, which they conceived
were made by the creatures of Government—(Hear.)
It might be very convenient for Ministers to divert
the public mind from the real interests of the c"un-
-try ; and he (Lord Cochrane) firmly believed, that
the suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act, and other
Bills. were be uglet in more for that purpose than
irny other. It was nepassary, however, that the Pill
then before the House thread undergo the strictest
discussion before it was passed, and that reasons of a.
weighty nature shesulst be given for introducing it.
Motives ought natein general, to be.imputed to ant.
person in that House ; but they came with a very bad
grace from those who were the protectors of Co:-
ruption—(lhae.)
Mr. BARING would not object to this measure if
a clear an 4 tlecided Case could he made out for its'
necessity. He conceived, however, that ev,ry Gen.
tleman in the House was as able to judge of ;he state
of the country, as every Member of the Committee ;
and, certainly, as far as his knots/L.4e tetteeded,
there was no occasion whatever for invading the
liberties of the people—( Wear, hear). He hid not
the least doubt that some blespheelous publicatioes
had been brought before the Commetee ; hut he
could not for a moment believe rfrit such publications
prevailed throughout le country. There ticetr was
a time within his recoil, etion or reedine, when there
existed a stronger religious fetling and veneration for
those sacred subjects, tar detestation of which seerne
id by the Report to be cone of the grounds of thrre
proceedings. 'lies was a period in which entlinsiases
seemed to have taken hold of the whets of mess, and
disposition had sprucg up in the letver clesset to
dive into unknowu mysteries, and to puzzle
them-
selves with what they had better le4ve alnue—(tlear.
hear, and a latch). As to the riot which lollowed
the ,Meeting at Spa-Llis, a very inconsiderable part
of the populether of the Metropolis hdtn frombeenc a
v,e.dr on,o.-
nd in iatnahavlefrya idenw joined
zcnpeople
them on their way •o
cete
the City. With resreet to the Spencean Plan, he
little
t lheeosaw
th
ethe o Report;tlrder of
been a Mr. Seetcv
hadoi :ten:
tohnac et
hbeehatehr
odkenogefh,,.t.i it
oetill
and, even then.
ii ho wrote a leemphleV4 few tears ago on Iteei..
commerce. Connecting die* circumstences t. g Thee,
ee 'was decidedly' of -Oeftnittif that them had ht e.. very
great eraggeration'ln the Appreheusions of the Cr in-
mittee, and of his Majesty's Ministers. He cceld rot
but think, that all the plots or plans, or wierceiree
they were to be called, might have beets pot d.%71,
it left alone, with perfect security to the ceuntry--.
(Hear, hear). It did not appear that there was any
intention of opposing the Bill going into a Comm L-
AM and, therefore, foe should not deliver his opinions
upon it Al present : but he could not suffer it to p its
even thus Ur without St./60g; that jt contained some

proviiioas, which, if ultimately carried, would give
Miniiiters a discretionary power over the most harm-
leas ;Macanese of society—(Hear, hear).
Ifir._C:lAV. WYNN observed, the Report did not
stsatthat tite Spencean Societies prevailed over every
part of the country. It certainly appeared, however,
that the Bill extended farther than it could possibly
be intended to go. He did not think it could be
wished that respectable rooms and circulating libra-
ries for reading newspapers ankh*, should be sub-
ject to prosecution unless the, per. teemed.
Lord RANCLIFFE saisk r fru words, when the
Bill was read a second time Wlnd; afiur some conver-
sation between the Cita:was.** cf..the EXCHEQUZIt
end Mr.'POSSONBY as to the day. was refeCred to a
Committee of the whole House o-morrow (this day.)
Lord •P A LME RSTON gave notice, that on Wed-
nesday he would move a farther grant of £500,000
on account of the Ordnance Service. He also gave
notice, that on Monday he 'would bring forward the
Army Eitimates.

RILYOIIII.

Sir F. BURDETT moved, that the Petitions
which lay on the floor, signed by nearly a million of
subscribers, should be received.—(There appeared
to be nearly a waggon load of petitions; they lay in
a heap, and almost covered the floor of the House;
there were 600 of them.
The SPEAKER--a Bring them up." (A laegh).
Sir FRANCIS BURDEI T then stated, that they
were all to the same effect ; but alter the Clerk lied
read the names of Blaekburne, Derby, Huddersfield,
Kingston-upon-Hull, Manchester, and Salford, Elul-
ton-le-Moor, Lnughborough, Melbourne, it appeared
that a great proportion of the petitions were printed,
upon which the SPLAKtIt informed the Honourable
Baronet, that he must take all such back; one also
was discovered to be addressed to the Prince Regent,
which was likewise ordered to be returned.
Mr. MANNING rose to order, and observed that
when the Honourable Baronet knew that he had 600
petitions to present, he should have consulted the
convenience of the House in ascertaining whether
they were printed or not, and be trusted that the
Honourable Baronet would be cautious for the future.
After a few words from Sir FRAISCIS,
The SPEAKER suggested the propriety of pro.
seeding with the Petitions S3IIIIC other day, to which
Sir Francis acceded; and intisaatea, that he should
then insist on the propriety of receiving Printed
Petitions.
Serjeant BEST hating ohleeted to the language
and mode of signature in some of"the Petitions,
The SPEAKER observed, that every one ac-
qaainted with the proceedings of the House, knew
how much business was done on the faith and eonfi
dense reposed in Members : it was therefore to be
espeettd, that no Petition which had once been re-
jected. would be presented a second time.
Mr. SWAN had seen a list of many names at-
tached to a Petition, all evidently written by one
band, and there was one list without a petition.
After some liw 'words from Mr. LAW and Sir F.
BURDIrrr.
The SPEAKER again suggested the propriety of
adjourning, to another occasion, the question, that
the Petitions do lie on the table.
Mr. CALCRAFT thought it difficult to decide,
at a single glance, that any number of signatures was
in one baud-writing ; he extenuated the language of
the petitions, and thought the signatures might have
been detached by accident. He considered the pro-
posed adjournment as inconvenient: -
After a fear words from the SPEAKER,
derjeant BEST Insisted, that the sending a number of signa-
tures in the seine hand-writing was a rem palms of the
Hesse ; and contended, that if the Huth' wished to preserve to
the esbpct the valtalie right of initiations, they ought to watch
over the due and decent winds of tt.
Sir.l/RANCIS BURDETT mislaid that the Upstate, had
been aesidemelly detached.
Afteironessursadon between the Sreasea and Sr C. Hosea,
SS the wales of s;gning by prosy, which the 131.tAILIM
le be honineissibk, except in the case of a party who was abroad,
and bad given a written authority for that purpose,
- Lord COCHRANE rose to defend the petitions; he knew
perms In tiSce had frequently idisigoaturee to militias
top; and its to the ex made use of in those'
new before the House, be thought no gid line should beelreekl
when It was considered that (tithe whole House, ninety Mentberei
were returned by &few Peen, and— • *,
Lord PALMERSTON called to ender,. •
Lord COCHRANE miti, be spoke in sawn, to some abut.:
various from the other side: be knew that in the Borough of il-
'bean one hundred houses had been pulled down, and the in-
habitants sent to the Poor-bonse.
The SPEAKER called the Noble Lett to order, end realuded
MS that the geodes wee, Whether the Petitions should De on
She Table I
Lord DINNING observed, that if the Honourable Baronet had'
Contacted what was doe to himself and the House, be would
have &lard s ley or two, merely to ascertain which of the Pe.
titians were primed, and which nut.
The debate on the 'nestles, Whether the Petitions *sal ie
es the table, was then adjetonied till to morrow.
The Report es the Carus& Cosnatisienen Bill was brought
up, sod the BM reed a third time.
The Army end NUTT Seduction Bills; and. the Bill respecting
Tseaseisable Practices, wire read a third dote and petard.
1 be Hobs went into a Committee on the Passengers' Rapala.
des BA—Report to morrow.
Theca was ordered to be laid before the Hems an Account of
- tic Sidovies of the Clarks and mbar Olken of the Poet Mee,
with the data of theirntnieht, attid acitnegmentation of
their

BOROUGH OF SO UtHW.4IIK MEETING. •
Yesterday a Meeting was held at the Town Hall,
in the Borough, composed of the inhabitants, house
and freeholders, for the purpose of taking into consi.
deration the necessity of petitioning the Legislature
_against the enactment of the Bills, not yet pained,
for the suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act, and
the restricted liberty of the subject.
Mr. Bowes, the Deputy Bailiff, accompanied by
Mr. CALTINT. the Member, Mr. HALI,..Mr. BRAND,
• Mr. FLoaatica You's% mid several other gentlemen,
amended the hustings soon after twelve.
Mr. Haw. said, they had met this da to unite in
petitiosiiiir Parliament against =Mures the most dan-
gerous to die liberty of men, Ap4 the blessings of i
free Constitution. He felkeiribelr Ikons weft &Isom
top lake, for the ohnoziout ivy (rich they tiers ett~
daufauring to avert wets, if not altogether;
carried into effect. The . 1. if carried ilia
aid, would all nothing of this' ioquiaidai'ih;
Spell. What real cause had Misisters yet assigned
for their pfneeethalls against the subject ? After
some Nether sheetvatiouss be read a series of Resau_
sifts, expressive if the imps for which the Meet.
glltd.
Mr. CAcaLvaiT sepported the Resolutions; and de-
ducing this, whatever respect be entertained for one

LONDON.

TUESDAY. MARCH 4, 1817.
PRIOR 01/ STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCK s
Radomd ah—Cou. avo. al#—tor ace. esj 63
4 per Cast. 67t}—Spar Cent. Navy 99ft
Kuhopes Bilb MI. IN. pr.—ladla Bonds 35 37 pr.

Last night, the Amendments made by the Corn.
moos in the Habeas Corpus Suspension Bill, were
adopted by the House of Pars, after a slight debite.
The Amendments were certainly necessary. Who
that nensiders at all the nature of the powers that
were put into the hands of petty Magistrates by the
Bill, is the state in which it was first passed in the
Lords, can question the propriety—the justice of
putting our fellow subjects in Scotland, at least on
an equal footing with ourselves in relation to their
personal rights ?
As the Bill was at first framed, any Sheriff Depute,
on the secret information of any calumniator, might,
without farther ceremony, have dragged the must
respectable individual from his own fireside, and im-
mured him in a dungeon I Was it to be contended
for a moment that such power should be committed
to the discretion of individuals, some of whom'might
perhaps be found whose sentences., even in the most
common cases, are oftener reversed than confirmed
on appeals to higher tribunals ?
On another point the opinion of the Loan CHAN..
MU* was declared against a practice which we
have always considered as tyrannical and contrary
to law. By denying to persons subjected to confine-
meot the use of pen, ink, and paper, they were pre.
chided from the possibility of -making known,- even
the way of Petition to the Sovereign, any grievance
of which they might have a right to complain. In
all such cases of confinement as are contemplated by
this Act, thereis a danger of the individual suffering
unnecessarily in consequence of local party feuds,
which no way affect the safety of the State. It is
impossible, therefore, to curse too much vigilance

in providing guards against and remedies for such
abases.

In this view, would there be any impropriety in
introducing into one or other of the Bills now before
Parliament, enjoining all Justices of the Peace or
other Magistrates, when visiting the prisons (which
they ought to do frequently) to visit those conned
under the Suspension Act; and making it impera-
tive on such Magistrates to forward to the Secretary
of State the Representations, Remonstrances, or Me-
morials of such prisoners. Na way, we are sure,
could be devised to secure individuals against incon-
veniencies entailed on them by the ignorant zeal of
petty local authorities; fur the Government, beyond
the vortex of local animosities, would judge more
coolly and diseassionately than men wit)iin their in
fluence, however upright their motives may beand
however unimpeachable their general ch4racter.

This day, agreeably to appointment, the Gentle.
men intending to bid for a Nem Llttery, met the
CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, at the Treasury
Chambers, when the Biddings were as follow :
Sivewalc.tiT .412 15 0
Ser.wELL
'' l2 I 4
CARROI L 12 10
Insia l2 1 6
The Lottery is to consist of '2';,000 'l'itkets, and to
finish drawing on the 19th of July next.
Last night, between eight and nine o'cl:,clr, there
was a terrible tcmpest over and round London. The
gusts of wind were terrible, but, happily, each of com-
paratively short duration i and thelslis of rain, some.
times mixed with hail, were very heavy. Lightning
was seen, but there was no audible thunder—or none
that could he distinguished, from the noise of the wind
and rain. The tempe,t did not last above half an hour.
By a letter from Tunbridge Wells, we learn that
the storm raged there about the same time—a violent
storm of wind, aeaompanied with thunder, lightning,
and hail. The morning was fine, but rain and Wild
began between ten and eleven in the forenoon, and
between seven and eight at night the storm came on
in squalls. An unusual rumbling was heard in the
air, and a storm of thunder and hail passed over the
place. By. half-past eight o'clock the storm had
abated there.

The LORD MAYOR, we are sorry to hear, is indis;
Fogged, from over-fatigue of business.
Yesterday the two EvAna's (father and son) were
taken to the Secretary of State's Office for the Home
Department, where they underwent examinations
before Lord SIDUOUTII, the ATTORNEYNAd SOLICITOR
Ganattm.s, and other Law
_Officers. They were
kept in separate rooms and under the care of different
persons, so that neither of them knew each other
were in the office. They were conveyed away in
coaches alter their examinations had closed, at dif-
ferent times.

DRUNY•LANE THEATRE. Mr. WALLACE last
night undertook the very arduous character ot Jae.
Upon the whole he gave satisfaction, and, on quitting
the stage, was honouted with much applause. Mr.
KEAN and Mts. BARTLEY, as Othello and Dade:Nowt,
played with" their usual excellence.
Como. GARDEN —The cause of candour and libe-
rality has at length completely triumphed. Mr.
Boole performed the part of Richard last night with
scarce any interruption than that which proceeded
from the frequent, loud, and ardent bursts of an ap-
proving audience. A feeble attempt of perhaps no:
more than three or four persons was made to mar the
effect of his fine performance ; but this unworthy
effort was soon subdued by the parties being either
turned out or silenced by the generous and general
sentiment of indignation which was instantly called
forth from every part of the House. Mr. Boons
(though in some instances he appeared alternately to
display an agitation of mind and a depression of
spirits, naturally arising from the trying scenes he
had to encounter) proved how well he merited the
distinguishing weed of public approbation so abun-
dantly conferred upon him. His performance was
honoured throughout with universal bursts of ap-
plause, and announced again for Thursday, amidst
a tumult of approbation, accompanied by the waving
of handkercLiefs and hats in all parts of the House.

MR. FAWCETT'S REPLY TO MR. RAE.
To 7111101701.
" Theatre Royal. Covent. Uarden. March 9, 11 7.
. _ _ . . . .

Ssa—Mr. Rae has complained of a paragraph which states, he
was an the Boxes of Cement-Garden llicatre on one ut the viglits
of the Riot, and he is pleased to attribute she offensive article to
the Manager.of Covent-Garden. It, by the Massager, he means
the humble individual who signs this, I beg to assure him he is in
crepe; and I am sorry he, who knows better, should make no
distinction between the Manager and others who alight have
made the counnuideation. Mr. Rae, by his own shewing,came
Into the boxes with an intent to address the audience, it au op
ponnuity had offered—not of his own free will, but sent by the
Sub-. Committee of Drury -Lime. This disagreeable employment
should have taught him, that it is possible an Acting Manager
may be obliged to do what he knows is nut right. Su that, even
if he had thought I did write the Article in question, fellow-feel-
ing should have restrained him from bringing me before the Pub-
he in the capacity of Manager. Once for all, I diseSaim it; as I
do imputing to Mr. Rae any thing improper or ungentlemanly:
so that I sincerely wish the Sub-Committee may still confide to
him the task of addressing the Audierke at Covent Carded
Theatre, if they think it decorous to continue this innovation „-
and that the Prompter, the Under Music copier, and other Sub-
ordinates, may no longer be permitted to disturb their rival's
House; fur certainly they have manifested that they do nut know
so well how to conduct themselves. 'I he Town must surely
think it Indecent, and highly disrespectful to them, for one 'I he-
stre to send persons into the other to interfere. I believe no such
commission would ever be offered to me by the Proprietors of
Covent Garden; but 1 am free to confess, if such could be at-
tempted, I would resist the mandate at all hazards; for if I ap-
peared in the Lower Boxes of Drury-lane Theatre, for the pur-
pose of addressing or disturbing the Audience, itould expect,
what I should be convinced I deserved—to be turned out with
eontempt.-11 am, Sir, your humble servant,
- (biped) JOUN TAWCTTT."
It is stated that Mr. BOOTH'S terms at Covent.
Garden Theatre are precisely the same as they were
to have been at Drury-lane, viz, eight, nine, and ten
pounds per week for three seasons.
FATAL ACClDEBT.—Yesterday morning, about nine
o'clock, as some men who were employed in under-
mining the ground for the purpose of making a road
at Needon, about five miles from Hyde Park Cor-
ner I while they were in the act of throwing up the
earth, which they had dug about' eight or nine feet
under the surface, it fell in, and one of the labourers,
named George King, was covered,-and perished
rai-
der under the massy weight, while his companions
narrowly escaped with their lives. Some,of the la-
bourers dug for some time, and in about half an hour
they succeeded in getting the body. Medical aid was
procured, but of ao avail, the poor fellow h;:iag
quite dead.

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