Star.
London, England, 1821-06-19 00:00:00

.•
,

\.

, 0 •

motion which he intended to propose to the House.
But though the wishes of those Gentlemen were so
hx-VIPC4JeIi he heilvd.tlita they would still act up
to the spin. of those eulogies which they had be-
stowed on his Hon. Friend, and shew their consistency
by attending to-morrow night to vote with him—
' (Hear, hear).—Here Le could not help observing, that
the Right lion. Getaleman had, in some measure,
brought this temporary defection on himself, by the
• too high strain of boasting which he had adopted
with regard to the state of the finances of the coun-
try. This kind of language was very much in use in
the world, though people sometimes found that by
boasting of their wealth, they were very apt to draw
thieve, around them—( Hear, hear, and laughter).
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY had only to
observe on what had fallen from the Hon. Member
for Taunton, that he had spoken as if he was deter-
mined that Ministers should never give up a tax
again—(Hear, hear).
Colonel WOOD called the attention of the House
to the situation of those persons who employed horses
in Wales in the transport of ore. They were very
poor, and the tax upon their horses, which was at
first 17s. was reduced to 3s. He hoped that they
would be considered as fit objects for relief by this
House, and would be included in this Bill.
Mr: S. WORTLEY said, that if he had been in the
House on the evening this question was brought for-
ward, he would have voted for the repeal of the tax
_(Hear, hear).—He was at-a loss to conceive why
it should follow that Gentlemen who usually gave
their confidence to Ministers, because they eulogised
the industry of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, were
therefore bound to vote for any proposition which he
might choose to make. As to a compensation tax,
tie was satisfied that there was no occasion whatever
for et--(Hear, hear).
Lord MILTON did not know whether his Hon.,
Friend, who bad just sat down, in what he had ad-
vanced, had spoken merely for himself, or as the
organ of the Gentlemen around him. It was certain,
however, that those Gentlemen thought that his Hon.
Friend, the Member for Aberdeen, had effected a
great deal of good by what hehad done in the course
of the Session—(Hear, hear).—They might, indeed,
have reflected that if they had been present to assist
him, he would have done a little more good—(Hear,
..cr)—and if they were still as willing to aid as they
v ere to eulogize him, he might be enabled, though
late, to do still more—(Hear, hear).—He could not
agree with his Hon. Friend, the Member for Taun-
ton, as to the imprudence of taking away half a mil-
lion of tales, because he had the satisfaction of be-
lieving that it would produce retrenchment, at least
to that amount—(Hear, hear).—He was inclined to
think the repeal of the tax in question as a great boon
indeed to the agriculturists ; and from that natural
predilection which every man felt for his own order,
he was inclined to rate that boon higher, perhaps,
than many persons. But he was aware that it would
only be a temporary relief to the pockets of the
farmers, and that ultimately its beneficial effects
would be diffused over the community at large. He
could not help thinking that the Landed Interest could
now have no further claim to say that they were not
fully represented in this House. And if any partial
reforms should hereafter take place, he hoped the
repeal of this tax would not be forgotten, and that
the House would think it necessary to take under its
protection also the Manufacturing Interest—( Hear,
hear).—He hoped the country would receive what
passed this evening with proper gratitude; but he
hoped also the country would refer its gratitude to
the proper quarter—his Hon. Friend, the Member
for Cumberland, and those Members who voted with
him—(Hear,hear).—The Noble Lord had talked of
economy and retrenchment, but he was sorry to,
observe that the economy and retrenchment of Mi-'
sisters were always deferred to the next Session of
Parliament. He hoped, however, that in this instance
no greater postponement would take place.
Mr. GOOCH repeated what he had said en a for-
mer evening, that the Hon. Member for Aberdeen
had done eminent service to the country—(Hear)—
and c, mgratulated the House upon the discontinuance
of the tax in question. He was sorry to observe the
distinction which the Noble Lord, who spoke last,
endeavoured to draw between the Manufacturing and
Agricultural Interests.
Mr. LOCKHART deprecated any distinctions
being made between the agriculturist and manufac-
turer. The interests of both were one and the same.
He was glad that the tax was given up, and he was
sure that it would be received by the agriculturists
as a boon. •
Mr. CRIPPS said, that from the retrenchments
which were in contemplation by Ministers, he did
not see any inconsistency in voting for the expenses
of the year and against the continuance of this tax.
Mr. PEEL did not join in the general congratula-
tion ; and believed no good would arise from what
had a tendency to weaken public credit, particularly
at the time when the first step had been taken to re-
sume cash payments.
Sir C. BURRELL thought the repeal of much
moment, as it would convince the country that it had
not been the intention of Government to throw the
poor lands out of cultivation. He was surprised that
the Hon. Member, who had been absent from the
discussion, should now revive it.
Mr. GRENFELL said, that the decision of the
House called for great economy on the part of Go-
vernment. Would the repeal cause a diminution in
the sum laid out for the reduction of the Na-
tional Debt ?
Sir JOHN NEWPORT thought the question un-
necessary.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
the repeal would cause no diminution ; as it would
fall on the gross of the Consolidated Fund, and not'
on the part applied to the reduction of the Pudic
Debt. He thought the blank should be filled up from
the sth of April of the one year or the other. In the
case of those who had compoundedc for their taxes, a
clause should be introduced.
Mr. CUitWEN wished the repeal to take place
from April. The Bill for the present year would
not affect those who had compounded for the As.
sessed Taxes ; and a Bill might afterwards be brought
in on the subject.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY hoped the
spirit of the grant would not be affected by any spe-
cial pleading. Should the Bill be acted upon in the
case of the small farmers, who had already been re-