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hoped he had done no injury toll* mlmtrry or the
prayer, that the two island.; of Great Britain and
Irelandmight be for ever connected by the ties of great man of whom he had been speaking; and he
trusted that he had tilt committed any unreasonableesteem and iegard, and that the Legislature might
at length see e wisdom of wiping away that last
trespass on the patience of the House—(Hear, hear!)
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stain from our system which he regarded as a vestige The Motion was then agreed to.
of intolerante. He hoped the approbation that TRADE WITH 'IRELAND..
world be manifetted on this occasion would prove, ' Sir HENRY PARNELL prefaced the motion of
which he had given notice for a Select Committee on
that in this country the Members of the House of
commons knew how to appreciate the merits of the Sixth Article of-the Union with Ireland, with a
those to whom their own pride and pretensions had variety of observations to shearthe importance, at a
time when the export trade of the country had so
been opposed, and to honour those whose virtues
were entitled to the reference, gratitude, and pious much fallen off, to take every means of cultivating
And increasing our domestic commerce. One object
affection of their fellow-snbjectst When the merits
of the illustrious dead were under consideration, it of the Union was to establish perfect freedom of trade
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\ras natural to dwell with fond regret on those merits,etween the two countries, subject to certain,limita-'
and on their probable reward ; and he felt that he lions, which limitations were however to expire In
twenty years from the conclusion of the Union, or in
could not better close what he had to say on this
-other words, on the Ist of next January. He strongly
.knbiect, than by applying to Mr. Grattan the verses
written on one who had successfully laboured to represented, therefore, to the Right Hon. Gentleman
-Ate our taste and our manaets, but who had opposite, who had given notice of his intention to
.-othing in common with Mr. Grattan but splendid propose a continuation of those limitations, the expe-
diency of entering into a previous investigation of the
silent and a spotless life. Of Mr. Grattan, in the
words cf the poet he had alluded to;he might say, subject, in order that whatever might be done, might
when the last sad duties had been rendered to him, be the result of due deliberation. He had little doubt
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that, if the subject were fully considered, the Irish
Neer to those chambers where the mighty rest,
Since their foundation, came a nobler guest ; Manufacturers themselves would be desirous of the
Nor e'er was to the bowers of bliss convey'd, abolition of what were called the protecting duties,
A purer Spirit, or more welcome Shade !" and of thereby extending the British market. He
Lord CASTLEREAGH, agreeing with the re- also wished to extend the inquiries of the Committee
marks male by the Honourable and Learned Gentle- to the countervailing duties, because, as the Exche-
man, as to the occasions on which a public tribute of quers of the two countries were consolidated, he was
applause should be rendered to those who were no at a loss to conceive why there should be double
more, perfectly entered into the feelings which had trouble in this respect. In conclusion the Honotfrable
been expressed with respect to Mr. Grattan, and Baronet moved—" That a Select Committee be ap-
thought no individual could hesitate in awarding to pointed to inquire into the effect on the Trade be-
his name the honours claimed for it. He could re- tween Great Britain and Ireland of the Ten per Cent.
member when he (Lord Castlereagh) had first come Duties, and of the Countervailing Duties, and to
into public life, in 1790, that Mr. Grattan was then report their opinions to the House."
in the splendour of his talents, and certainly no ta- Mr. urnsEroN seconded the motion. He
lents had ever asserted greater supremacy over a thoUght it was of the utmost importance that this sub-
popular assembly than his had (lone. He was of Jed should he investigated by a Committee of that
opinion‘that in the great transaction which had been -House. There were many branches of trade, which
alluded to, England profited not less from the talents were exclusively confined to this country; for in-
of Mr. Grattan than Ireland had done. By the vic- stance, the Wrought Iron, the Hardware, and the
tory which he previously had gained, Mr. Grattan Potteries. Now it would be of infinite advantage to
Lad laid the foundation for that measure which had the starving manufacturers, if the duties on these
united the two islands of Great Britain and Ireland branches of our trade were removed in our inter-
into one Empire, and dissipated those mists which ccurse with Ireland.
had before prevented both countries from seeing their Mr. V. VITZGERALD hoped his Right Hon.
true interests. The commercial bigotry which had Friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) would re-
enre existed was overthrown, in • consequence of his fuse the Committee. He knew that nothing could be
exertions; and the advantages resulting from this more productive of discontent and alarm in Ireland
were now felt in the wealth which each country than such a measure. The expiration of the Act of
poured into the lap of the other, and which it was Union did not point out the period when those duties
now the business of Parliament to make fructify, and should cease, but the time when any
legislative in-
increase the commercial prosperity of the Empire. terfereuce could properly take place.
Tice Honourable and Learned Gentleman had, with Lord ALTHORP supported the motion.
great taste and feeling, called the attention of the Mr. WILL OT spoke in favour of the Committee.
llouse to the sentiments uttered by Mr. Grattan in The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
1.i..i last. moments, respecting 'the Catholic Question. he thought he should be guilty of injustice bah
Whatever were his (Lord Castlereagh's) feelings on to this country and Ireland, it he sanctioned the ap-
mat question, he thought, with the Honourable and pointment of the Committee proposed by the Hon.
Learned Gentleman, that to introduce anything re- Baronet. The manufacturers had, upon the faith of
'rating to it on the present occasion would.'ne foreign the existing duties being continued, entered into large
to the purpose. Whether Mr. Grattan was right in speculations, and any measure like that proposed
iiie view which he took of that question or not, it would create discontent and alarm in the public mind.
could at least be said that lie was consistent with the Mr. CURWEN was for going into the inquiry, not
-whole of his public duty, and that he gave his ex- for the purpose of repealing the existing duties, but
piring breath to that Question—(Hear, hear).—He with a view to ascertain the period for which it would
wished it wets in his power to express in terms more be necessary to continue them. ' •
adequate the general po.lltical veneration he felt for Sir N. COLTHURST hoped that the Chancellor
the gi eat character who was the subject of their pre- of the Exchequer would not accede to the motion
seat discourse. He was sure that there would be of the Honourable Baronet. He knew that it would
found as many whose sentiments agreed with those. be productive of considerable alarm and discontent
so eloquently expressed by the Honourable and Lear- in that part of the country with which he was con-
ned Gentlemen, on his (Lord Castlereagh's) side of 'netted (Cork). At a period like the present, when
the House, as there were on the other—(Hear, hear!) the public distresses of that country were so great
Ile was sure the virtues of that great character would from recent failures (and that distress exceeded all
long live in the memory of the British Nation. belief), it was of the utmost importance to avoid all
Mr. C. GRANT bore a handsome and feeling tes- subject of discontent or alarm.
timony to the moral and political character of the Lord CASTLEREAGH coincided with the Hon.'
lamented individual in question, to the important Baronet who had just sat down. He was aware that 1
services which he had rendered to his country, and much distress prevailed in the South of Ireland, from
to the high consideration in which these services were the recent failure of public credit, and it was neces-1
generally held. sary to give as much tranquillity as possible to the
Mr. WILBERFORCE also, with much animation„. public mind. Oa these grounds he opposed the pr!‘
adverted to the private as well as public virtues of
sent motion. . .
Mr. Grattan. He was convinced that whatever might . Mr. Hume and Mr. W. PARNELL Supported the
be the various sentiments of Honourable Gentlemen motion.
upon particular measures, this was a man in whom Mr. SHAW said, that though lie agreed with the
they would all admit private interests were extin- Hon. Member for Waterford (Sir J. Newport), that
Fuished, and who looked solely to the public good. a graduated scale of reduction would be best, yet he
she Honourable Member concluded, by observing, could not oppose the present motion ; as, if he did so,
that although Mr. Grattan had been no friend to the the question would go over to the next year. ,
Union, in the first instance, yet he was known with After a few words from General HART,
his last breath to Lave uttered a wish that that Union Sir H. PARNELL said, that from what had been
might he perpetual. urged against his motion, he felt it the more neces-
Mr. V. FITZGERALD joined in the tribute of re- sary to take the sense of the House upon it.
spect paid by the preceding speakers. The House then divided—
Mr. BECHER was principally actuated to address For the Committee - - 30
the House, to remark, that a document, the dying Against M
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exhortation of Mr. Grattan to his Catholic country- It was ordered, on the motion of Mr. &taw, that there be
men, addressed to a Gentleman who stood by his bed- laid before the House an Account of the Amount of the Dublin
side, arid immediately committed by him to writing, Grand Jury Cess for the last six years, ending the Ist January,
had been communicated to him, *hich, with the per- 1820; the Amount charged to each Parish, the Insolvency and
mission of the House, he would now read— Hear, Re-assess, and the Amount lost by Collectors; also the Total
( Amount charged within the same period for Watching, Paving,
hear!}-The Honourable Gentleman here read the and Lighting the said City.
document, which was to the following effect : MUTINY BILL.
" I wished to go to the House of Commons, to testify with Lord PALMERSTON moved the Order of the
my last breath mg opinions on the question of Catholic Emanct- Day for the third reading of the Mutiny Bill.
pation ; bl.t I cannot. The hand of der:th is on me. lam not
afraid tf death; but I fear for my country, if the object which The Order beinread- " That this Bill be now
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1 have so long cherished should not be accomplished. I wish read a third time,'
III? Catholics to be relieved from the oppression under which Lord NUGENT begged to inquire whether the
they have lung been labouring, because I have always considered first Resolution included the service for India ?
thtra to be 10-al men, worthy to be placed upon a foelng with Lord PALMERSTON said, that the Resolution
the other menibers of the community, and to be allowed to wor-
ship Con according to their own consciences. I wish the guts- had be read. It was read by the Clerk, it did
tion to 14 st-tUtd, because I believe it to be essential to the per- not include that service.
mamma tranquillity and happiness of the country, which are, in Lord NUGENT then rose. He feared the motives
fact, identified with it. The Catholks have behaved w -II under by which he was actuated in addressing the House
buoy aria s. If their hopes should be again disappointed, I
Inost earnestly deprecate any coalition on tacit part with the ad- would make but little impression on the Gentlemen
'orates of Universal Suffrag,! and Annual Parliaments. Were opposite. The few observations which he had to
the friends of those doctrines to be successful in their object, make should therefore be applied to the pririciple,
nothing could ensue but the subversion of the Constitution, and not to the details of the subject under discussion. He
establishment of the wildest democracy. There is one thing
more: the Catholics must cautiously avoid becoming parties to any 9 P
felt, however, that he should abuse the time of the
dissensions that may unfortunately prevail in the Royal Family.' House if he confined himself to that cold and units-
-Waring could Ise more hJittiorable to Mr. Grattan, teresting manner (he said it with deference lo the,
than this proof °this anxious solicitude, in his dying Noble Lord), in which the Estimates of so great a
moment., to:prevent his countrymen from falling into Military force in time of peace were annually broughti
error. He (Mr. Becher) trusted that the Catholics forward. He did not, for himself, see the necessity
would not fail in the great object which they had in of maintaining such a force. He considered it, with
view. If they should tail, it could only be by a de- reference to its avowed application, as worse than
parture from the dying injunctions of their unwearied useless, and supported in contradiction to the soundest
champion and best friend; and who has thus given principles of the Constitution. It would, he said,
theta wholesome advice, as he had frequently done alarm our ancestors, if they could contemplate the
to those who were to legislate for them. Ile had present situation of the country—if they could look
giatiLied his own feelings by what he had said; he 'at the state of Our Military establishments. After