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London, England, 1810-01-27 00:00:00

wanted nothing for that purpose, which the Right
S onourable Gentleman's Papers could furnish. To
be sure the House might want the Papers, to give
Clem the aggravations of his Majesty's Ministers' con-
duct (hear, hear) ; but in order to chew that the
House wanted nothing that the Papers could furnish,
it was only necessary to look to the fate of the Expe-
dition (hear, hear) to our lost army, and to the dis-
graceful abandonment of the Island of Walcheren—
(hear, hear.) The assertion, that there was no prece-
dent to be found for this lamentable event, was but
too true. Search the annals of the military history of
the country, and there was hardly to be foul an
instance of failure, where so much blame was not
to be attached somewhere. lie would say there was
no direct blame to be attached to the Right Honour-
able Gentleman. The greatest possible failure
might follow without blame to any body. But such
a failure as this, without being too presumptuous, or
without entering into details, he believed was never
heard of before. Ministers, with their eyes open,
march, with unfeeling ferociousness, the army to its
destruction—to its grave—to the deadly marshes of
Walcheren to peri sh.—to go out like a candle in a vault.—
(Hear, hear.)—There was a total failure in accom-
plishing the object for which it was sent out, and it
was enough for the House to warrant Inquiry. For
his own part, he was at a loss to conceive how it was
possible for a military expedition to accomplish the
destruction of a fleet.—( Hear, Hear.)—lt was cer-
tainly an object very foreign from their ordinary duty.
In fact, when the House should come to examine
into the details, it would be found to be an expedition
which was impossible to succeed.—(Hear, hear.)—
On tile subject of papers, he observed, that Ministers
had offered -no efficient excuse. The Speech of his
Majesty having promised their speedy production,
the Right Hon. Gentleman ought to have laid them
on the table the firs: day of the Session. He con-
cluded by supporting the Motion.
Mr. PONSONBY contended that nothing could he
more insulting to the House and the country, than the
ses of Ministers, that they did hot skink
lay the papers before the House. It was
he ever heard that on any great national
the present, the House of Commons of
-ere hound to wait upon the pleasure of
Ministers. (h'ear, hear.) The Right
'Gentleman said, that it would be prepos-
ue the inquiry on the then information
souse ; but he contended, that the con-
House, indeed, would be preposterous if
probe a transaction which had tarnished
the British army, and shed disgrace on
Bonaparte had boasted that the Genius
night his battles in Holland, but, alas !
.t the Damon of England won his victory
o the distraction of her Councils, and the
cabals of her Ministers, did he owe his
focr, 'l:ar.) The Right Hon. Gentleman
delicacy of the other I\ lembers of the Cabi-
;sing the Noble Lord (Lord Castlereagh)
:ouncils, until such a measure could be recon.
!Voile Lord's feelings. He concluded by
that, if the House took the advice of the
arable Gentleman, on this occasion, he
would be found malignant men enough, even in
to say, that the greatcet calamity, and the
that ever fell on the people, was to be 'vin-
es House of Commons. (hear, hear.)
.PHENS, after a few words, said he
for the previous question.
IJEL ROMILLY was convinced that
should be lost in instituting an Inquiry.
)t conceive how a vote for Inquiry could
:hrow a blame on Ministers, unless they
:ed themselves, that the result of the lo-
be to make their guilt evident. He at-
°Teat measure, the calamities of the last
) the want of inquiry, which last year had
i-ilpunity of Ministers. He considered the
responsible for all the treasures squandered,
loon wasted in those disastrous expeditions,
not have taken place but for their mis-
alence in Ministers. The only way they
IEI their bounden duty towards the oa-
institute an Inquiry ; their own honour
it should be as speedy as possible, and
sere would be an Inquiry.
.EY FOSTER spoke against the motion.
ROSVENOR could not give a silent
occasion ; for the honour of the proles-
:li he belonged, for that of the General
inded the Expedition, and who was anxi-
speedy and minute Inquiry, he should
motion.
;E POPHAM did not at first intend to
;entiments ; but after what had fallen from
'-neral, he thought himself bound to de-
hor;our of the Navy, and for that of the
miral employed in that service, he was as
my one for an Inquiry.
.E, impressed with the idea, that for the
the House an Inquiry should be as speedy
would vote for the motion ; but without
intention against Ministers, whose merits
tar.ces he thought greatly and unjustly

TH thought the Inquiry would come
inday.
RGE. WAR RENDER would vote for
the readier, as the Right Honourable
trable Gentlemen opposite had stated, that
ttempt to effect their removal from office.
,NNIS BROWNE thottght the question
Touse to be, whether it should decide then

y? He plainly saw it was the object of
•men opposite to remove Ministers.
VEY thought there was cause of com-
.where.
,BERFORCE said, lie had been thirty
ember of that House, but in all that time
Ind the Ministers of the day friendly to
ley always Gpposed motions for that put-
directly or indirectly. He should be ex-
-4 to see Ministers spew a disposition to
wishes of the country. He would have
Is at once to come to Inquiry, when they
iurmurings out of doors. When he reflected
\umber of Expeditions that had sailed from
• in the course of the last few years, scarcely
ich was successful, he was not one of those
stigmatize any set of Ministers because
failed. The Expedition to the Scheldt
bad most egregiously failed of realizing

more insulting to the
frivolous excuses of
it neressary to lay the
the first time he eve:
question, like the pri
England were bowl
the King's Ministc
HonourableGentlen
terous to vote the
before the House ;
duct of the House, i
they did not probe
the lustre of the 13;-
the country. Bona
of France fought I
he feared that the
for him. To the d'
disgraceful cabals
success ! Herr,
ridiculed the delicacy
3tet in dismissing th
from their Councils
tiled to Mat Nolle 1.
observing, that, if
Right Honourable
feared there would b,
this countu, to say
vilest disgrace Mat rt
tented by such a flout
Mr. STEPHEN
should vote for the
Sir-SAMUEL 1
not one hour shoul,
He could not conce
be said to throw a
were convinced the]
quiry would be to
tributed, in great n
campaign to the wa
insured the impunit
House was respon sit
for all the blood wal
which would not ha
placed confidence i
had left to fulfil the
tion was, to institm
required that it she
b_t trusted there wo
Mr.LES LEY FC
General GROS'
vote on the occasi,
sion to which he be
who commanded a
ous for a speedy
vote for the motion.
Sir HOME POI
deliver his sentimen
the Hon. General,
Clare, for the hor.ou
Gallant Admiral er
anxious as any one
Mr. EYRE, imF
honour of the Ho]
as possible, would
any hostile intentio
in many instances
undervalued.
Mr. SMITH th
better on Monday.
Sir GEORGE I;
the Question the rc
and Honourable Gi
it was an attempt tc
Mr. DENNIS ]
before the House to
or on Monday ? 11
the Gentlemen opp
Mr. HARVEY
plaint somewhere.
Mr. WILBERF
years a Member of
he never found the
Inquiry ; they alwl
pose, either direct)
tremely glad to see
• meet the wishes c
them anxious at on
found murmurings
on the number of
this country in the c
one of which was s
who would stigma
hey had failed.
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