Star.
London, England, 1827-02-24 00:00:00

The Marquis of HERTFORD presented several Pe-
titions against troy alteration in the Corn Lew's, from
different places in the county of Warwick ; and also a
Petition from certain owners of milk is the county of
Down, praying that their interests might be protected
in the case of any alteration in the Cgrn Lawi.
Lord KING observed, that their Lordships were yes-
terday pleased to reject a Petition which he presented
to them, and he thought they had sheen themselves a
little too nice and difficult on that subject ,• because,
when he looked at the votes and preeeeditigs of the other
House, he found this minute aside yesterday—" That
the Petition of the starving weavers of Blackburn be
laid upon the table and prented.7 The Petition he toad
now to present was a Scotch Petition, from a plane
Fifesbire. The Petitioners ezpreased tbeir epiniois that
taxes were imposed on the lalmoriag classes for the as-
grandizensent of those for whose benefit the Corn Lows
were made. He wished to know whether.that was ob-
jectionable.' 'He thought there wet a consideraldirof-
feetation of purity and much predfly in ill, Holßler.-
Some persons were eery *lips* at any imputation
being cast on the noblenatore of the House. He here
could not help referring to the observations of es emi-
nent a friend of the human race 'sever existed on this
or the other side of the Atlantic—be meant Dr. Franklin.
That great man remarked that—" it is stondeifiel how
preposterously the affairs of this world are managed.—
One would naturalty suppose that the interval ore few
individuals would always give way to the general in-
terest ; but individuals managed their affair* with so
much more industry and effect, that the general ince-
rest/ire way to the particular. We assemble Parlia-
ments and Courted* to have the benefit •of collet i e
wisdom, .but they necessarily have the inconvenience
of collected Passions, prejudices, and private interests.
By the help of these, artful men overcome its wisdom,
and dupe its masters; and if we may judge of acts for
regulating commerce all the world over, assemblies
of grcat men are the greatest tools upon earth.." This,
was precisely what he himself said, namely, that when'
great men proceeded to regulate commerce, they let
their private interests warp them in their public ditty.
The Earl of LIMERICK thought the Pe,itina pre.
settled yeiterday most insolent and unconstitution
Redid not know how far the Noble Lord was orderly,
in referring to the proceedings of another plice. whete
a similar Petition had been presented. As to the pas-
sage the Noble Lord had quoted. it was the language
of a min who was the groa est enemy England ever
had, for he had been the means of separating the-solo-
nies flem their mother country.. He never wished to
be guided in his pntitics by the eraiets of !atwitter*, or
therspinions of democrats

The./4-arquis oILANSDOWN had several Petitions
oh the subject of the Roman Catholic claims to-preseiit.
He begged leave, however, to state, that was it not then
his intenii..n to avail himself of What he considered the
isn•foubted privilege of their Lordships—namely, the
adJressipg them on any subject to w hich the Petitions
ielerred; still, he thought, that as a matter of conve-
nience, public business, or questions on' which a dif-
terenciof opitiinn might be expected ha arise, shriold
not be brought forward b fore rive fk. This rule
had, with great propriety, beets laid down by 4 Noble
Earl, the cause of whose absence t' ey all de-
Owed. In the present case, he the more 14
[hi tulc had been vi laced, as it had deprived him of
the opportunity of hearing a long speech which he un-
derstood a Noble Vi•count, not then in his place, had
made on the subj ct of the Ronan Catholic
The latter part of the N•ible Lord's speech 'which he did
hear, related to the aAitat- d state of the country, and
he, therefore, regretteo that he had sot heard the whole,
though- the conclusion to which he might have ,• on
the facts stated, would perhaps be very diffeielit from
that drawn by the Noble Lord. He hoped the circum-
stances to which th ible L'rd had alluded would in-
duce him to address ..im•elf to the i•optoeement of
'that state of society which his valuable -testimony
sheteed to be mischievous, and attended at the present
moment with great inconvenie ce.siod alarm. Upon
the consideration of the Noble Viscount, and of every
other-Noble Lord connected wi h Ireland, he wished
to urge the indispensable necessity of improving the
state of society is that country. He certainly would
not believe any such Noble Lord, until he heard
him declare it upon his legs, that the present sys-
tem of law in Ireland pre ented that stage of things
ander which' the country could be tranquil, prosperous,
or contented. He hoped that every Noble Lord who
had anything to suggest for the improvement of Ire-
land.'would either btrig it forward at the regular hour
of discussion, or give notice of his intention to deviate
from that rule. The Noble Marquis then presented
Petitions from the Roman Catholics of several parishes
in the counties of Limerick and Athlone.

Lord CLIVE presented a Petition to the same effect,
from New Castle, in the county of Limerick.
Petitions against the Roman Catholic claims were
presented by the Bishop of EXETER, from the Clergy of
his diocess; and by the Bishop of GLOUCESTER, irons
several rural Deans and Clergy in his drocess.
Earl POWIS pr.sentesla Petition against any altera-
tion in the Corn Laws, from a place in the county
of Sd!op.
Lord KING presented a Petition from Hayrick,
again the Corn Lsws. The Petitioners stated that it
would be better for the country if the attic—et ac y had
pensions given them in lieu of the Coin Laws. He
also presented a Petition to the same effect from Ro-
chester.
The Earl of CAPNAVON presented several Peti•
Lions from Berkshire and Bedfordshire. against any al-
teration in the Corn Laws.—Adjourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at four o'clock, and
in doing so he said, that before he entered upon the
business of the House, he was anxious to express his
gratitude, which he did most cordially, for the kinJ
consideration shich bad been shewn towards him last
night. On all occasions he had been treated with the
utmost kindness and indulgence by the House, and he
begged to assure it most sincerely, that it would be-his
constant endeavour, and was the heighsof his ambitiest

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to be printed.
It was ordered that the Clerk of the Crown should
on Monday next. for the purpose of amending
=urn.
The SPEAKER acquainted the House. that John]
•Dilton, and others, who had petitioned the Hoes! against
the Return for the 13],rough of Athlone had not entered
into the necessary recognizance:. end
.the order for
faking the Petition into consideration was discharged.
r. Bncsa, flow Chelsea Hospital. laid befose the
a Return of the Unclaimed Army Ptize•Money.
to be printed.
Mi. HOBHOUSE obtained leave to bring in a Bill
for the improvement of Golden-square. Westminster.
• Mr. HERMES laid on the table copies d the Com-
missariat Estimates.

The. Marquis of CHANDOS presented two Petitions
from Buckinghamshire, and .two from Kent; against
any alteration of the Corn Laws. .The spine Noble
Lard also presented a Petition.frnm the Lace Manufac-
toren of the town of Buckingham. praying for the re-
peal of the License Duty connected with their ilade.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL said, that be Nas intrusted
with several Petitions against any alteration of the
Corn-Laws. but for reasons which would be essily un-
derstood, he would decline presenting them this even-
ing—Meat).
Mr. Secretary PEEL obsarved. that it would be ad-
, visible, under existing peculiar cii cumst antes, to abstain
from presenting public petitions t,ll Monday—(Eeer.)

• i 3 THIt 10%1110M QUISTION.
S;r F. BUtt DEFT postponed his Motion on the above
subject from Thursd.ty. ibe I.t. t i the Sib of Mach.

CARN LAWS.

Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that he had that dal re-
ceived a letter from his Right Hon. Friend, the Secre-
tary of State for Fereign Affairs, written under the
impression that most likely his presence in the House
would be absolu.ely necessary on Mi.nday next, to.
the purpose of bringing lista ard the pooposition framed
by Government with iespect to t-e Cons Q session. In
sh..t letter, however, his Right Hon. Fri, nd sugge.ted
that it might, perhaps, he possible to postpone.: the sub-
ject fsom Moaday to Tueida), which ws•ulst give him
24 hours more of terite. It had been his (Mr. P.'s) in-
tenti n to pi ()pose that delay, bin finding that the discus-
sion on it e Catholic Question was postponed limn the lit
so Me sth of March, lie now thought it be•ter that the
Corn Q.resti••n should be pn•tponed to Timid ay, tie I st
of Match. 11. however. there should exist any objection
to this' orrangensent—if any considerable nutter of
Geatlemen expected his Right Hon. Fir nd to bring
torward the question on Monday nest, he (.4r. Peelj
was sure that tie would act* ere to his original inten-
tion, anJ w.. 0111 be in the House on that night, f.r, as
he had before stated, his Right Hon. Fri. sod did not cal-
culate upon any delay beyond Tuesday at the utmost..
Sir E. KNATCHBULL would not affect to conceal
that the postponement all the discussion would create
some disappointment, and could only be justified by
peculiar circumstances. It was, in his opiiiion, much
hem., to accede to the suggest; .n of the Right Hoe.
Gentlema••. than by any precipitate proceeding to urge
hi. Right H•nt. Colleague d • that which might injure
his heidth, and should. after all, rather retard than ad-
• outs& hasst adisteillun -of dmepeetion—(Heat ).

MI-. N. CALVERT thought, that at least the Reso-
lutions which Ministers intended to sdhmit to the House
might be laid upon the table on Monday, although the'
discussion upon them should not take place iillThursday.
Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that the Hon. Member
could not have been in the House on a for mer evening
'when he (Mr. Peel) explaiiteJ the course *Nth his
Right Hon. Friend proposed to pursue with rev ct to
the Corn Question. He then informed the House, that

I is Right Hon. Friend intended to accompany his state-
ment of the alterations proposed to be made in the ex-
isting Corn Laws, with some observations which would
sufficiently explain the principles upon which those
alterations pinceeded; he would then submit certain
resolutions, and ia ith respect t them, he proposed to
follow the course pursued in 1815, namely, to have
them tepoited pro forma, in order that they might be
printed, and the House would not be required to come
to any vote upon them, or even to enter into any
debate, unless they wished it, until a subsequent day.
He (Mr. Peel) must, however, decidedly object to the
plan proposed by the Hon. Member (Mr. Calvert),
of placing the resolutions on the table of the House,
unaccompanied with that explanation which would be
' essential to the right understanding of them. Such a
course would be mast unusual, and, in his opinion, most';
improper(Hear. hear).
Mr. N. CALVERT said. he was perfectly satisfied
with the course proposed, since he found that the House
would not be called upon td an imineditte decision
on the prppositions of Government.
Mr. CALCRAFT, hoped, that if aoy untoward acci-
dent should deprive the House of the advantage of the
Right Hon. Gentleman's (Mr. Canning's) presence on
Thursday, some other of his Majesty's Ministers would
undertake to bring forward the question in his absence.
.(Hear). It was time that the intentions of Govern-
ment were known on the subject.
Mr. Secretary PEEL gave the most positive assurance
that if the Catholic Question had not been postponed,
and if his Right Hon. Friend • had not beeq able to ap-
pear on Monday, tile promise which he (Mr. Peel) ori.
ginally made would h.ve been fulfilled, and theques.
non would have been brought, forward by some other
member of the Government.

Mr. CALCRAFT—And will, in case the necessity
should arise.

Mr. Secretary PEEL—Most certainly.
The question was then fixed for Thursday, Ist March.
Mr. HUME gave notice, that when the House next
went into a Committee on the Mutiny Act, he should
reeve a resolution for the abolition of corporal punish-
ment in the army, as far as regarded Great Britain.—;
He also moved for a return of the number of corporal
had occurred in the Army within

the last year.

The oilier Orders of the Day were then disposed of,
and the House adjourned.

w • Meeting en thullst of Febtiary... The Petition was to inariliest. at kast la soma &qtr, inch lt,tteriag aften•
partly against Vie Corn Lwas• 141.4.14,fity assist saw tioa-4 - ;bear.)
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~,, Grant sot.), •Ig clar.floct. was atie Illk . •• sawarscr. •asukvsoir.
. sent in thilibP.eti .iis win* he wished limos to se JOHN 811111 MIGHT =der the lett 113
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er. ficinate; I. stated, that they coulti root the ipel,ieh Election; toga .
r that' Mr.. mar' L.,
conceive ha*. the 158nstr of a Ptilice or" increase "7 mead end Colostirtbrrtte were not duly Aland, and ,a°
l'O. his accepting • large pentad% drawn from an impo. aught mu to have beep returned as Burgesses fur that
verished people, eivelbdT labewing ands " als°, ila"s. illorossgh t sod that Mr. Mackinnon and Mr. Doodas thi
....`615 Pressure of suzarkus• The Petition was signedonlyny were duly elected, and ought to have been returned as 9
the chairman of the meeting, and therriore could only Balgerses for Ipswich. The_ Report ids* stated that
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w• be received as his. It was afterwards withdrawn, on ac• the Petition of Mr. Mackinnon sad Mr. Donde, was 7'
.'count of seine informality. not vexations and frivolouia, Tiiiieirori was ordered 1'
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