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his perseverance, and that tht Navy was much in-
debted to him. The Honourable Gentleman had
said, that the Honourable Baronet was solitary in his
; but if he had taken the trouble to reckon, he
would have found that one and one make two, and
not one—(Laue).— He adm tied that a tolerably
satisfactory explanation was given, and ignorant as
be was of the subject, such an explanation as he
should feel himself warranted to accept ; but while lie
athuitml this, he thought the Honourable Gentleman
(Mr. Croker) had gone a little ton far, and a little
too fast, and had at least sliewn that he had not the
requisite coolness to qualify him as a judge to sit
where he at present si!s.
Sir CHARLES POLE said, he sincerely wished
the explanation given, plight be found satisfactory,
but he could not lo upon it himself as such.
The question was then put and carried.

BARRACK DEPARTMENT.
Mr WHARTON mowed for a grant wf £483,000, for the
Barrack Department.
Mr BANKE wished to know the amount of the estimated
sum to emelt at:i
the different Barracks, towards which that sum
was to Is- applied.
Mr. W HAIVIDN went into an explanatino of the most impor-
tant anode—X2s,noo was for Barracks in Alderney and Jersey;
£40,000 for Barracks at Penneycook, in Scotland for the French '
Poisoners who were at present kept In a building that had been
a cotton mill. The total estimate of the Expence of Barracks
for the Life Guards was seearo 31,000, but £30,000 only was pro-
posed to be expended this y ; £23,C00 was to be expended
ea Barracks in the Isle of Wight, of which £14,000, %vas to be
out this yor.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHIQUIER said, that as Go-
vernment had rit notice to quit the building at present occupied
for that purpose, it became necessary that that pan of the public
forte should be accommodated.
Mr. MARTIN renewed the objection as to the amount.
Mr. WHARTON explained that he bad expressly mentioned
it 08.060 as being for new woo ks nut begun. but in contemplation.
Mr. BANKES objected to the extensice plan of proceeding
adopted in this branch of the public service, and followed up with
Increased and increasing grant. year after year. He particularly
remarked on the inability or disinetinoriono on the part .f the Se-
cretary of the 'Treasury to give the thicessary satisfaction en those
points on which information was required of him.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER vindicated his
Honourable Friend (Mr. Wharton), and accused the Honourable
Gentleman (Mr. Banks) of being in a passion, and having ad-
dressed his Honourable Friend in an unparliamentary and dicta-
torial manner.
On this subject a conversation ensued, in which Mr. Danko.
and Mr. Whitbread took the one side. and the Chancellor of the
Nachequer and Mr. Wharton the other side of the question.
The luestion was theln put, that the sum of £48,2,023 he ran-
ted to lug Majesty, for defraying the expences of the Barrack De-
partment for the year 1811.
The following Grants were also voted 0—59,282, for the Dis-
senting Clergymen in England, Scotland, and Ireland, for the year
181E—L21,500, for the works In the New Itlint, and for Fix-
tures, &c. for the year 181E—X44100, for additional machinery,
&c. furnished by Mr. Itegnier, Mr. Bolton, &e. for the New
Mint, within the same period.—‘4soo,for a '1 unnel at the New
Mint.--‘4BOO, for the Board of Agriculture, for the year 1811
The House then resumed, wiser, the Resolutiorts were ordered
tp be repotted on Monday, and the Conostittee to sit again un that
day. •

COMMERCIAL CREDIT.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER '
moved the order of the day for the third reading of
the Cemmerciel CreJit Bill.
Mr. WHITBREAD said, that he must give his
decided negative to the Bill. He understood from the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, that a clause WAS to be
introduced prohibiting the Conimissioners from parti-
cipating in the use of the Exchequer Bills. That
clause was not introduced: but it ought to make a
feature of the present Bill, and extend Lowery Mem-
ber of the House. As it was, it might be made the
means of an unconstitutional influence. No man on
either side of the House heartily liked the measure,
and it was embarrassed with the most serious incapa.
cities. The old respectable houses of London had not
suffered; and the new speculators, who chiefly be.'
longed to Liverpool. were ruined, and beyond the
reach of help. The measure could therefore render
no service to any chins of-traders. To demand secu-
rity in pods fiem the multitude of the manufacturers
was mockery, for they had been already cheated out
of their goods; their goods were gone. The distress
was fie ns the want of a market : the issue of Exche-
quer Bills might increase the goods, bat could not
open the mark!. " Now," said Mr. Whitbread.,
" though I believe few in the House will coincide
with me, my firm and fixed opinion is, that we can
never be relieved from our present commercial dis-
tresses, btfoie a thorough reconciliation with Ame-
rica, aid a Continental peace." The relief offered
by the pleeent Bill was a relief by the issue of paper,
it a time when the country was loaded with p::per.—
A practical illuerat:on of this was given but a few
days since ; and yet more paper was to heal the evil
elan excessive issue. He would certainly take the
sense of the House upon the Bill.
Mr. LAMB was afraid, that both the reasons which
were supposed to have led to the present difficulties in
the commercial woad, were to be traced to the same
cause; and that the violent trading to South America,
which was supposed to be the principal reason of the
present stagnation, arose from the shutting up of the
ancient markets in Europe, in consequence of the
steps taken by this country, and by our enemy. If
this was the case,' the present Lill could produce no
effectual relief, but only served to put off the evil day.
What chance was there of having the ancient markets
of Europe opened ? There was surely none. We,
therefore, by the present measure, only hell out to the
Emperor of France an assurance that his plans had
been successful, and thus induced him to persevere in
them. The least part of the disadvantage to the
country likely to• result from the present Bill, would
be the loss of the money advanced by the public.—
We had a far greater misfortune than that to contem-
plate. By this measure the House presented the
mannfacturers and others, who were the objects of
the present B:11, and who now suffered from the glut
of the foreign market, and in consequence of tiling I
excluded from the nierkers of Europe, from turning
their capitals to other more important sources of in.,
ternal improvement, from which both the individuals
themselves, and the country as a nation, must derive
inlnitely greater advantages than from any trade or
commerce whatever.
Mr. MA R RYA-14T defended the principle of the
Bill, agreeing, leciweve.r, with Mr. Whitbread, that
ereiher the Commissioners under the Bill, nor any
Member of Parliament ought to derive any benefit
under the Act I no person, he thaught, should, on
any occasion, be both Judge and Party.
Mr. HIBBER'r said a feet wends, atter which the
Mouse divided.
Yer tl a 3d reading 41—Against it 4--Majority 37.
The CHAW:ELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
proposed some Amendments, which were agreed tot
when the BM was pasbocl, as 4 ()Wood to the Loris
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