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London, England, 1828-02-07 00:00:00

'but the reviovikof the disabilittss under which the Boman Cathodes
libdutied gaga Ref give repose and happindds -They
toil& chime to's determination of grantingUheir wink it
niight be done with a good #llltlonnd a/tele* as a boot!, nation*
wait-for a time of general aunty wells theOltould hat Ise grated
Without hontidation.
Gptreral KING, in explinatien, stilted, that.the;snp.
port he gave the present Miolitry arm* from a sincere confidence
in-the talents of the Doke of Wellingted, as well in the Cabinet as
the fief& If the resolution speed to by the Catholic Association,
in reference to. the- Administration, did not contain intimations of
menace and iniimidation„ ke knew not what intimidation meant...
Sir JOHN NEWPORT, in explanation, admitted
the sincerity of the Gallant Gpneral's opinions and conduct.
Mr. LEYCESTER explained.—He confessed that he
had meant to appeal to,the pones of the English people. His ob.
jest was to skew them that the concession of the Catholic claims
was to them a question of pounds, shillings, and pence. Hs was
sure that if he could once convince them of that, they would not be

long of coming ever to the support of it.
Mr. FEHGE4SSON, in explanation, admitted, the
sincerity of the Gallant Generari sentiments on the subject. He
would acknowledge that nothing could be more injurious M the
cause, than the conduct of the Catholic Association. In fact he could
not bring himself to think, that. those *bit framed the resolution
alluded to, were real friends of Emancipation—(Cheers).
The Petition was read, and ordered to be printed.
Mr. W. SMITH said he held in his hand a similar
Petitionf•from the Parish of Kilmore, is the County of Mayo. We
wished to take that opportunity of stating that no union had takes
place between the Roman Catholics of Ireland and the Protestant
Dissenters of England for the purpose of procuring a repeal of the
laws affecting,them. It was not to .be hence conceded Mat she
Dissenters were hostile to the claims of the Roman Catholics. He
had uniformly supported them In that Houie, and all the Dissenter's
with whom funned were of the same opinion. He did not mean
to say there were not many Dissenters who thought differently.
The Protestant Dissenters of England thought it more advisable to
stand together than to form any union with their Catholic Miser.
subjects. Their principle however was the same. that civil and I
religious opinions should be kept quiteteparate. They were alike
convinced that the property and safetrof sbe &spire rested upon
the succeu of the. Catholic Qiiestion.—.Tins,petidon. was read end

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ordered to be printed. •
Sir G. 'COCKBURN brought-up the Navy 'Estimates
for the year 1828, which were ordered to be piloted.
Mt. HUME presented a Petition from Robert Gour-,
lsji praying that the House would take into consideration the sub-
ject of the Poor Laws and of Emigration:lnd that he might be ex-
amined touching then', having had much mepicrience in such matters
for the last tw.ent-seven years.
Mr. DENNISON presented a Petition from the Pro.
tenant Dissenters and Members of the Church of England, re
skiing in the parish of Clapham, praying that the Laws affecting the
former might be repealed. He ttusted the motion which his Noble
Friend (Lord John Russell) meant° bring forward on this subject
would be succeisful. He wished that all the friends of free'
would join heart and Wad for the removal of civil disabilidei...-•
There could be no peace or tranquillity until the Situates imposing
them arsie -repealtd.
• Sir; U.W. RIDLEY presented a similirPetition trona
the Dissenters of Newcastle•upon-Tyner—aldi 'Petitions. went
ordred to be printed.

• LAW OF DIBTON AND 0211DITOR. •
Mr. HI.IME said he had last Session submitted to the
House tariaus motions on tl e onbiSet of arrest audios.
• prisonment for debt. His objecs was to do away with
the practice of imprisonment for debt afroptbers and to confine the
remedy of the creditor to his debtor's property. He did jot make
this proposal on any vague theory, but 9DlFlllitml been the prac-
tice is land for-a long period of embers of Pulls-
;mum Were exempt. from arrententprainllftWeittitiever appeared
salkfacosry to him. . They should tail =resins is lido +seeped, as
well as every other, equaljestlce. was extended to all classes- f the
community. If any Magistrate through kintwatwe of the law, or
Sons any other cause, vent a person to prison Without just ground,
Ai my was immediately raised • against klm from one end of the
ropostir to the othee ; while hundreds were daily-imprisoned for
debt ;without any inquiry into the credibility of the person or the
yestice of Dia claims upen whose application he bad been arrested.
This system wai most unjust. The property of the individual should
dew he made responsible. On the-Continent. tke laws affecting
*Mors were more favourable to them than here. By-the law as -
,(s now stood, the creditor himself was injured, foe it was well
karma that no person ever remained in prison a week for. debt who
ad not resolve with bimsElf never to pay his creditor a halfpenny.
'The consequence of the present severity of the barites, that no
respectable practitioner, as he had been' wrored by 'Way of them,
would be concerned in carrying it into effects and it thus fell into
the hands of a certain class, who made fortunes by the miseries of
others. Byreturns laid upon the table it appeared that, In 1886,
pe lesethao 12,297 persons were committed to the King's Bench,
she Fleet, and Whit. Cross-street Prisons, for debt. Of these;
2.849 were committed in one day ; 1,887 were confined tinder melee
process, against whom there was po proof of debt, and 9,911 on
judgments recovered. In nine out of ten cases where females were
arrested, a compromise took place, from their natural apprehension
of going to prison, and most shameful- acts of oppression were the
consequence. Seven hundred and ninety of the cases mentioned
were debts not under szso. H. could not see the justice of
the law which said there shall bevelpowdy by arrest for a debt
of £l9, but there shall for a delirtff. £2O. During seven years,
to which the returns extended, there had been confined in the
Kisses Bock Prison, for many-years, 15,789 persons, who were,
by belogthus.eltut out from their occupations, effectually pre-
cluded from prometag the of jeet of their creditors. Here the
'Honourable Member read a passage from a published letter,
or eddies% of Mr. Hayden, the celebrated artist, pointing out
*gowns and inellicacy of the practice otimprisonment for debt.-S-
Having said so much by . way- of explanation of his views— 41
egged leave to say,, that if tbe Committee to be lasmoiforam
morrow by the Hon. Member for Winchelsea (Mr.,Bretogkost)
should not Inchlde the subject...he would feel it his own duty SI
tisane fora Select -Committee to take it into conilderation. Ono
thing was clear, that the evil of the system was great, and called for
'a -safe ind speedy remedy. Theinttrests of humanity loudly called
for It. The Hon. Member then moved for a Return of the number
.of persons imilrisoned intheelifferent prtsons in London, Middlesex;
and Sowthwark; for the year 1827, distinguishing those for memo
process, or judgment debts, and for what suma—The motion was
then agreed to.
Mr. D'aiWSON moved for Returns.of the balance of
Public /saw in chi Exabequerc• • and other items connected with
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Public lactated.

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On the tootioa .of Mr. DAVE BON, the Hoots Te?
solved itself lines Committee of *lady. On she Resolution Wog
put to grant e 3,200,0001. tb pay of certain Ezdanguer Bills for 11127,
gr. SUNIE wished to know the precise object of shis vote ?
BERRIES. saltthis resolution was only carrying into effect
a vote •OL former Teary This Was • not only the usual; bus the
*visa* mune which must be pursued on aU such occasions.
Mr. HUMS said, be did not as yet understand the question.
Ile Home should lave some intelligible explanation before' they.
wiled sway the public Money.
• • Ildeemss ATKINS said that a few observations' nude by the
Member sheered veer clearly that he tub* Wry Well
acute of the pripoeitteselution. For ids.ewn par; he was
quite said of the propriety of the vote., •
Mr. DAWSON said the papers !* yesterday tresented
, wenlde.
When pehitede'allbed every information on the'subject.
MN MUM did not deny that he diillot know sothettdog of the
matter. Mt he dill pressed fpr e.fatinknotontef the items orlhe
account: He could not Tote for so lames now without expressing
the jealoulyle felt at it. •
Mr. BERRIES said, tbls votegavanTo.power that did not exist
before. • .
fir. MARERLEY complained *a sin, Etelsequer Bills were
often edverthed to be paid of, when there was qo money
in the Treasury. The system was bad from beginnibg to end, and
should be at once put an end to. '
Sir JOHN WItOTTE&LRY.saId, s deficiency was left to be.
provided fee in the yeare-IOSS and 1547, cellar the House •Was,
aubsequeauly called upon to supply by. a teeth issue Of Exchequer
Bilk. Now be wished the Right Hon. Gentleman to inform him
as to the utmost of the Bills so issued. •
Mr. 11ERRIES said, the returns which were laid before the
House would give every explanation on dist subject. Dui for the
,satisfactioasof. the . Honourable Baronet be could state, that the
amount was about three miUlons,whigh were sold advantageously
to the public.
Sir JOHN -WROT.TBSt.EY was obliged to the Right Hon.,
Gentlemen for the information, ant new wished to pot another
red'of some, importance 4.9 him. He would be glada, d know'
amtlunt of the Unfunded Debt, and itany .decrease (*.increase
bid occurred last year?
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. Mr. BERRIES replied, that some fluctuation had taken place,
t that he might state the amount of the Unfunded Debt td be
about t 7 maintops. - • • •
Mr. MABERLEY trusted that the Finance remain,. Owe
to be appointed vickild-glee their most serious attention to dm very
defective manner in viblehAfie 'Pattie accounts were 'keitr.kne,
sew little ineprweinbut bit silken ;Aim ; but itUt' they were so
oesepileateekthat they could tot •be made inseUlgible. lle h$
trusted that the Flaking Fund would be looked toi (or in Pace of