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-more nnwessar t. more unwarranted, and more cut
Of place, than the remarks fit then i'l,lle l'trl oppo-
site the Earl of Harrowlay, abstain is loyalty. He
Oreyyuied no expressions which could furnish'
r a pretext for the loyal efftiaion which their Lordships
hail jut t heard. He Gould not pledgeilismc:noryits
t 6 the particular ords he had used ; but, so far as
I)se recollected, hest aid, that, with every sent:meat of
reverence-for his afflicted Sovereign that could be in-
spired by the virtues of his life or the eminence of
his station, he would support any expense that was
essential to the maintenance of his dignity—(Hear.)
only protested against that false plea of dignity
'which was brought to justify an extravagance which
the people could. ill bear, and to maintu:n an useless
splendour, which contrasted so inharmoniously with
the teal circumstances of his Majesty.—(Year.)—lie
was glad to hear, by a few weeds that dropt from
the Noble Earl, that the distresses of the country
were not overlooked in the construction of the pre-
sent measure; for to have heard the Noble Earl's
speech in :ther parts, he should have supposed that
he was opposing the reduction of the Windsor Esta-
bli%liment, proposed from this side of the House, ra•
tlicr Than de;ending that reduction proposed by the
Bill. He (Earl Grey) concluded by stating, that he
had not expressed the sentiments attributed to him by
the Noble Lark He had always declared he was
ready to support the dignity of the Crown, with a
due regard to the sufferings of the people
The Earl of HARROW BY explained. He certainly
had misapprehended the Noble Earl; for he under
stood him in substance to say, that his consent to the
bill would depend solely on the reductions of the
ltoyal establishment it contained, and the relief to the
country which it administered.
The Lail of DARNLEY protested against the im-
putation which the Noble Earl had thrown on the
Opposition side of the House, as if those on the one
side yielded to the Noble Lords on the other in at-
tachment to their Sovereign and loyalty to the Con-
seitution. He had never, in the course of his Parlia-
mentary experience, heard a mole unwarrantable at-
tack.—The question was then carried, and the Bill
being read a second time, was ordered to be commit-
ted for Monday.—The ouse then adjourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Mr. Svartztott, from the African Company, presented an Ao
calm of the Number of Merchants composing that Association,
trading to Africa, for the last year.—Ordered toile on the table.
A Petition was presented from the Merchants anu Traders of
Caernarvon against the Waal Road Bill. and praying to be
heard by themselves or Counsel, against the same.—Ordered
to lie on the table.
Mr. BERKELEY PAGET presented a Petition from the In-
habitants and Traders of the Borough of Caernarvon against the
Insolvent Debtors' BilL—Ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. BERKELEY PAGET also presented a Petition from
cattalo Inhabitants of Anemia, against the blenai Road Bill.
Ordered to lie on the table.

Mr. BUTLER presented a Petition from the Inhale:tams of
1.-ilkenny, against the Window Tar.--Orderad to lie an the table.
A Petitlun was presented from the County of ;Ltddingcon,
against any further Duty on Coals.
• Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH presented a Petition from
Ogden, praying for a revision of the Penal Code. Also another
Petition from the town of Epping, with a pryer to the same
effect.—Both Petitions reads and ordered to lit on the table.
Mr. cALcitArr presented a Petition from the to•.:r cf
Malden, praying for relief from the Duties on Salt.—(lr:ered
to Ue on the table.
Mr. Davies and Mr. Pares Pates obtained leave of ab.em..e,
the former for one week, and the latter for one. irlot.th.
Lord DUNCANNON presented a Petit!cn from t"-, /34,-
rough of Melton, against the knolvent Bill.—Ordered to he on
the table.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT oostermad %is Marine i.e...lea rise
this day, till Tuesday next.
Mr. WHARTON presented a Petition from certain Inhabi-1
tants interested by land property, against any proposed altert-
, Bona oa the River Were.—Ordered to lie on the table. • •
Mr. LA 1/ITON presented a Petition from the Debtors in
the Gaol of Durham, praying far a Renewal of the Insolvint I
Bill, with such amendments as the House, In its wisdom, should
think fic.—Read, and referred to the Committee now sittlaz.
Mr. BENNET merely noticed that he had no occasion to
call the attention of the House to his intended Motion for this
day, relative to instructions to the Committee on Gaols and Im-
prisuuments, to make particular inquiry into the state and regu-
lations respecting Convicts, the Committee having promised to
bestow their attention on the subject.
The names of the Defaelters on the ballots of yesterday were
called over, and, with the few exceptions of those who obtained
leave of absence, they were all excused till Tuesday wet.
Mr. WILLIAM SMITH presented a Petition from the In-
habitants of Norwich, against the Insolvent Ball.—Referred to
the Committee now sitting. •
A Message Irons the Lords intimated that their Lordship*
bad agreed to several Bills, including the Rechaquer alli Bill,
withuat any amendments; 'and that they had also agreed to the
l'uor Laws Bill with some amendments, which were 'submitted
to the coadderation of that House.

Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH presented three Pe-
titions, namely, one from the town of Elgin, the
second from the town of Peebles, and the third front
the town of Dumfries, all praying for a Reforn; itt
the Intental Government of the Boroughs of Scot--
land. To the contents of the last Petition,. the Hon.
and Learned Gentleman called the particular atten-

el:telt:de of the subject. The grievances of which
the Petitioners complained were eivoratons, end de-
served the immediate attention of;Pirliament., The
Mmistrates,"-whol4a 'die eeiiireotenirgement.6l she
Public Funds, without any ravensibdity. I)dtand
themselves, had also the power of electing. their
friends to the chief Offices of the AlagistrAer.; and
when the time of the latter expired, those who went
out of office re-electcd their friends again as their suc-
cessors. Thus there was always a ccatinnance of the
same set in power, by the friendly changes or politi-,
cal arrangements now desetibed. The inhabitants
who paid taxes and 'local rate, had no centroul what-
ever over those who assumed the Inauagenient of
their pecuniary affairs. By the ridsruanagement, if
not profligacy, of some of the persons alluded to, the
funds of several of the Burghs had not only fallen
into a state of I:cay, but were at last in an actual
state of bankrurtcy. •
The Petition lion Dumfries, now the mere
diate subject of discussion, was then read, ordered to
lie on the table, and to be printed.
The other two Petitions experienced a similar re-
ception from the House.
Sir WILLIAM DOUGLAS presented a Petition
from the Inhabitants of the Burgh of Annan, praying
for a Reform in the Internal Government of the',
Scottish Burghs.—lt was read, ordered to he on the
table, and to be printed.
NEW SOUTH wiitts.
Mr. BENNET rose, parsaant to his notice of mov-
ring the House, to instruct the Corr,..,aittec on Gaols,
to take into consideration the state of New South
Wales. lie was happy to infortn the House, that
there was no occasion for him to proceed with his
Motion, as the Committee had come to a resolution
of turning their attention to the Stlbj2Ct v.ithout any
further delay. Particular circuit.stances had pre-
vented them from taking it into consideration that
morning; but the investigation would certainly be
commenced on Monday morning.
90PYRIGHT.
Mr. JOHN SMITH called the attention of the
House to the contents of a Petition which he row
held in his hand, prayin,, for a repeal of the Law re-
lating to Copy-right. The Petition was signed by
certain Booksellers of great respectability—ramely,
Lackington, Hughes, Harding, Jones, &c. stating the
great hardships which they now endured by being
obliged to furnish the Universities and certain. Li-
braries with eleven copies of every publication be 7
longing to them. By six works alone, their loss from
these copies would amount to £l/42,400. The Petition
mentioned several other hardships connected with
the subj.ect. It was received, read, ordered to lie oil
the table, and to be printed.
artrAcrt OF I'RIVILECE.
Lord ALTHOP.P solicited the attention of the

Hous':, whilst he detailed to it a most gross violation
of its privileges, which had lately occurred. A sol-
dier of the first Regiment of Guards, named William
Stilton, had been summoned to attend and giveevi-
dence before the Committee appointed to decide on
the melits of the Worcester Election. He had at-
tended at the House of Commons, and had been exa-
mined, on Saturday last. As he was retiring 'from
The room in which the Committee sat, and was cross-
ing the lobby of the House, lie.was arrested by a ser-
pant in the Guards, for a military oXence which lie
had committed; that offence was his absence from
parade, in consequence of his attendance at the House
.sit Commons. The Committee, an hearing of the
'Circumstance, had not taken any immediate notice of
it; because they thought that when the soldier's con-,
duct was explained to his Officers, nothing would be
dope to punish him- Since that time, the man had
been tried by a Court Martial, though snienCe had.
not, lie believed, been passed upon him. He thought
that such a transaction was well worthy their consi-
deration: for his own part, he must denounce it as a
most Sagrant breach of privilege, to arrest, in the
precincts of the House, any witness who was in at-'
tendance pursuant to its orders. They ought in all
cases to punish with severity any breach of 'their pri-
vileges ; but still more so when the breach was com-
mitted by a military man.
The Hon. H. TOWNSHEND rnaintaimed that the
soldier, Stinton, had not been punished in conse-
quence of his absence from the parade: lie had be-
haved ill in many other respects. He had endea-
voured to escape from the serjeant who had arrested
him, and in consequence had been brought to a

Court Martial.. What the sentence of that Court

was, he could not say, because he was not at p:e:ent
acquainted with it.
Lord ALTHORP said across the table that he had
nothing to do with the subsequent proceedings. He
complained of the breach of pi ivilege which had been
committed by arresting the soldier in the lobby of
the House.

tion of the House, The Petitioners complained of Sir M. W. RIDLEY thought that such an outrage
serious grievances arising from an undue Election of ought to be marked by the censure of the i louse en
the Corporation or Magistrates. The signatures to the individual who had been guilty ois it.
this Petition contained those of the most respectable Mr. TIERNEY said, that the real question was,
Gentlemen of the Borough of Dumfries ; and the whether the soldier had or bud not been arrested
lion. and Learned Member was also bound to say, whilst he was in attendance upon a summons from
that the language of the Petition was strictly corm:- a Committee of the House? Now it appeared that
tutional, not emboldened or maddened by the wild he had been so arrested, and arrested also in the pre-
and visionary ideas which were.so apt to unhinge the, ciacts of the Hir:se. The seri zi.,.nz, therefore, who
vital principles of society. It therefore was justly had arrested him had certainly transgressed against
entitled to the attention of the House. The griev- their privileges.
ances of which they complained, in eommon with Mr. BECKENT, the Judge' Advocate, made some
the other Petitioners for the Reform of the Scottish remarks,• but in a tone of voice so very low, that it
Boroughs, had long been patiently endured by the was impossible to hear a single sentence of his speech
people, thelatter thinking that some salutary amend- in the Gallery. • ,
ment would be brought forward, to afford that ge- Mr. TIERNEY, in, reply, said that it was quite
Heral satisfaction which the natives of Scotland had clear that the House ought to tale immediate snea-
so often hoped fee in vain. Finding, horever, that sures.to vindicate its privileges.
no remedy could be expected from those 'who had" Mr. Bli,ltiN.Ti.T observed, that as the soldier had
possession of the government of the Bomuglic of been illegally arrested in the first instance, he did
Scotland, the people were at last driven to the tie- -not tee why he, the soldier, should be punished for
cessity of applying to Parliament for relief.. They au attempted escape from an arrest which, in point
had been progressively advancing, every yoarnearet- of law, was no arrest at all. He also maintained,
and nzarer to the attainment of their grand object ; that is the- arrest wart illegal; any punishment infik-
and it was to be hoped that the time was not very tcd on the soldier.; fcs his eadeusours to escape from
remote when they would be fully gratified. Sir' that 'arrest, would Le highly illegal. Fer his own
James went into some local details; remarking, that 'parti he (Mr. pelmet) should wish to see the Minutes
out of the 411,000 interested in the mblects• in the ortiod Court Mirtial. . .
year tBll, a sufficient number had not heeit,featod 1 •-gir • CHARLES MONCIE thought, that as 'the
to consent to the amelioration of a system which led othek Courrs;Of the country And the privilege'sifiki:
so long disgraced the internal goierntlitnt 'of the , tocring.theirvrituevses hunt invest, the iktistsofeann-•
Royal Boroughs of Scotland'. • ' - • • 'iniinr., the highest of them all, was surely ensitled to
Mr. MAC ELAND very much approved of the' li'ilinilar privilek4.
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serrations which had fallen Rom: the Hinvonrobjo ; Lair:JAPAN: 11ACEINTICKiII obvtgrved, that a'
aed Learned Gentleman (Sir.Jarnes Mackinvg4-,- ,govesetiaut; trt tirtlx of priviler hod never Fitch Tons.'
Jis Mr. 14aitlana) was very sensible i,f, th 9 vast *cosi, espe4llyvriitt: it was to:it:4 to have•bceit
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