Star.
London, England, 1803-06-11 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

A peon filen the Office of the Chief Secretary in Ireland
brought up aft account of the member of uirunerios io Ireland, the
number of Rilla employed in each of there, and the number of gal-
' lons etch Rill contains; with the number of gallons annually ex-
ported from Ireland.
Sir J. S. Easatwt brought up a Report of the Committee ap-
pointed to confider the means of providing for the Families of Scotch
Militiamen ; which expences, he laid, the Committee had deter-
mined ought to be defrayed by an affeffment on lands and houfes.
The laid Report was ordered to be referred to a Committee of the
whole Houle on Monday next.
Lord GLENSERTIL moved for an account of the ftatements,made
out to the lateft periods, of the proceedings made by the Commit-
Goners from Sales of the Land Tax on the property of Bodies Cor-
porate and Politic; the quantum of Stock purchafed, and the gain
to the PubUe.—Ordered.

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Mr. it/ z a IRALD brought up a Petition, from the Debtors coo-
fined its the Prifon of the Four Courts Marital, praying relief.—
Ordered to lie on the table.
The report on the Lzetteiner Bills &feet Bill was agreed to, and
the Bill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.
The Affiffed tarn Confolidation Bill, and the Confolidation
Colledion Bill of the Affilfed Tare., were feverally committed,
and the report ordered to be reedvecto-morrow.
The Militia Transfer Bill was read a fecond time, and ordered
to b 4 committed on Monday.
Mr. I. H. BROWNS gave notice,that he would on Monday move
the Howie to grant a fum of Money for making Roads in the High-
land. of Scotland. _ _ .

Mr. Wreom se brought In a Bill to enable the Cornmiiiioners
of the Firft Fruits in Ireland to lead certain runts for building par-
fonage houfcs in certain paddies in that country, which was read
a 6th time.
Mr BAGWELL fuggefted the propriety of alto enabling 'hors
Coromiiliciners to lend money for the parade of grounds to build
fuel Konica upon, as there were very many paddies in Ireland to
which no &Les were annexed.—The Bill was read a heft time, and
ordered to be read a ad time on Monday neat, and to be printed.
The kith Ships Burning Bill was read a firft time, and ordered to
be read a famed time to-morrow. _ _

The Bribery Oath Bill was ordered to be read a third time or;
Tuefday nest.
The Committee of Ways and Means wu poftponed to Monday.
Refolved, That the Houfe refoive Itklf into a Committee of
the whole Honfe on the Balt India Ships Bill to-morrow."

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Ordered, on the motion of Mr. eel% It r, that proinflon Otould be
madc for the pay and clothing of the frith Militia.

COMMITTII OF SUPPLY.

The Order of the Day for the Houfe to refolve
into a Committee of Supply being moved, it was or-
dered that the account of the farther rum neceffary
for the Barrackdepartment in Ireland--the eflimates
relative to the pay and clothing of the frith Militia,
and the charges neceffary for the Tranfport Service,
thould be referred to the laid Committee.

The Mute having refolved into the Committee,
Sir PHILIP STIPHENS, after fome prefatory re-
marks, moved, that it be the opinion of the Com-
mittee that 4.0,000 feamen, including 8000 marines,
be granted his Majetty for (even months, from the
Isth inftant.

Colonel Woos thought ken Marines not a fulE.
eient number; it was his with that the increafed
number of Marines thould amount to 20,900.
Sir P. STEPHENS Rated, that we had already
4.,000 marines in the fervice. to which, when the
Roc* now propofed were added, we thould have a
larger number of that defeription of force, than bad
been ufual heretofore.

Mr. BASTARD obferved, that the marine was a very
favourite fervice, and that, in his opinion, it would
therefore be a better mode of railing men for the
public defence, than to have recourfe to the plan of
forced levies, which had been hinted at the other
night. It was, on that account, he regretted that
more marines were not propofed, as men could be
had fo eafily for that fervice.
The Szearraav at WAR concurred in the compli-
ments paid to the marines, and in the propriety of
augmenting that force as far u was pratticable; but
fuggefted that the prefent motion would not preclude
Gentlemen from propofing that increafe, if it lhould
appear neceffary.
Lord Tll4 rs.s put a queltion referring to the
Itatements of the Hon. Mover—whether it was to
be underftood that the number of feamen to which
the Hon. Baronet alluded, was now aaually on
board t

Sir Planar STIPHIIIIS replied, that Bo,ooofeamen,
including marines, were neceffarily forthcoming for
the Blips now in conunifion. The Hon. Baronet
moved, on the firft motion being agreed to—that
5 tB,oool. be granted for the payment of this force.
The CHANCILLOR oT the EXCNIIO.2IIt IrOfe to COl%.
telt a naconception which might arife from the
flatement of his Hon. Friend (Sir Philip Stephens).
When he mentioned 80,000 (cameo, he did not mean
that that number was at prefent on board, but that it
was neceffary to man the number of (hips now in
commifGon. The Houfe had already voted 60,000
(cameo, and 70,000 were *dually raife4 ; but to (up.
ply the Blipping he alluded to, there was am a deficit
of to,ooo men.
The motion was agreed to, as were the following:
53sPoof. for vicuanivs this farce.
Lispool. for wear aad taw of Gips.
'coma for Ordnance.

teiewecil. for hire, ke. of Tranfports.
Eisoccd. for charge of Paeans for the year 403.
sopool. for funkr drage of ditto for ditto.
The SIICR !TA It I" it WA It moved fill' 24,5m01.75.g.
towarls defraying the expences of the Barrack
-partment in Ireland.—Agreed to.
The Houle refumed. and the report was ordered
to be brought up on Monday.

CONSIILIDATION OF The CUSTOM DUTIES.

On the Order of the Day for the Houle to go into
a Committee on the Bill for Coofolidating the Duties
on Cufloms,

r The Cot•scit Loa of the Excueor ea rote and raid,
I that before the motion for the Speaker to leave the
3 Chair, he begged leave to make a few obfervations,
which he doubted not would confiderably fare the
time of the Houfe, as he would Ihortly Bate to the
Houfe the feveral alterations propofed to be made in
the Bill.—Several Petitions, he (aid, had been pre.
rented from the Thread Lace blinufallurers of the
counties of Buckingham, Bedford, Northampton, tire.
&c. complaining of the duties intended zo be laid on
goods of this defcription propofed to be allowed to
be imported The intention of this was as much as
poifible to afGB the fair trader, and to counters°, as
far as could be done, the defigns and fchemes of the
fmuggler. He imagined that 3n this article them was
to the amount of 400,0001. brought into the country,
of which not more than so,oool. paid duty. Some
alteration. therefore, was abfolutely necelTary. The
attempt to prObibit it entirely would pofitively be
nugatory and inefedual, the article being to bo
brought into the country in fo full a cornea& It
was propofedk on this account, to lay a duty some.
brew j wad st had been determined to fix on a rum
that Sonia difcountenance the (muggier, and give
every poirsbk advantage to the fair trader. He had
found, Emma the heft information be had beta able to

procure, that the fmnggler could enfure his profits
in time of peace at to per cent. and in time of w.tr
at is per cent. He, therefore, prepaid, the ad valorem
duty Ibould be fixed at 20 per cent. which he thought
would be fuch a medium or average, as would not
fail to fecure the fair trader. The only difficulty he
thought would be to (leer clear of fixing the duty fo
high, as to endanger the intereß of the manufadurer,
or fo low as to injure competition at home. Under
the prefent circumftances of the country, he thonght
there was no rear on to fear for our home roanatc-
tures, as, during the continuance of the war, our
thread lace manufadures had greatly flouri(hed, and
fince the peace it had confiderably fallen off. In
general it had been found that immediately after,
and, indeed, for Come confiderable time lubfequent
to the making. of peace, contraband trade was brit
and moft effectually fuppreffed by fixing a low duty,
which took away the inducement-the (muggier had
to make exertions and run rides, when his profits
would be little or nothing ; and if at any time at.
terwards it fhould be found neeefrary, a higher duty
may be laid on : but there was no principle more
clear than this, that a contraband trade cannot be
demolithed all at once. It had been the (ludy,
and was the continual with of his Majefty's li-
nifters, to ufe every means in their power to pm.
tea the manufaaures of the country, and they were
very glad to receive every degree of information
which fhould enable them to.allay any alarm's that
might take place in the minds of our own manufac-
turers, Another refpeaable defcription of perfons
he (aid, had been confiderably alarmed at the per-
miffion that was to be given to the impartation of fo-
reign porcelain. The duty on this had been ins per
cent. and it was propofed to reduce it to so per cent.
which he thought would have been a complete pro.
teaing duty. It was not, however. ennfidered to be
fo by the manufadurers of this article in this country,
who have urged, in the tirongeill terms, their appre.
henfion that this manufadure would be greatly in-
jured, if this alteration in the duty was to take
place. Under there eireumflances, he had under.
taken to recommend it to the Houfe to increafe the
duty from sol. to gOl. per cent. and if that fhould not
be found fufficient. to inereafe the duty Rdl more,
and make it higher, as the nature of the cafe might
be found to require. The third point be had to notice,
he faid, was the petitions from perfons in the filk
trade. It was well known, that the importation of
manufadured Mk from Bengal, was altogether pro.
hibited. All precautions to prohibit it entirely had
been found ineffeaual t bat he thought that by a duty
of 2s per cent. on that article, the trade of the
(muggier would town be entirely demolithed. He bad
propoled that the importation of filk handkerchiefs
Ihould be confined to the average on the fates of the
EMI India Company for the lali (even years, but he
now recommended that the prohibition fhould be re-
newed during the war, with the power of fufpending
it afterwards, as the Houfe may think proper. lie
Paid, he thought he &cold not be doing juftice to
thofe refuel:table perfoas who had pretested petitions,
as well as thole who bad waited on him on the mess.
Pion, if he did not fay that he believed they had not
the (=Heft with or intention in what they had done,
or in the further Reps they intended to purfue, to
embarrafs his Majefty's Minifters in the execution of
the patent mature, but that they had ailed purely
from the juft eaufe of alarm they thought they were
bound to maintain for the intsreft of different
important maaufadtures in which they were (evenly
engaged. He believed, however, they were ell Co
pettedly fatisfied with the modifications anti altera-
tions propofed to be made in the bill, that they would
decline giving the Houle the trouble of hearing Coon-
fel on their behalf. lie begged pardon for having
to long detained the Hoare front going into the Coin,
mittee, but he had been induced to fay Ce much, in
hopes of Caving their time after the Speaker fhould
leave the Chit,.

Lord Tam PLR thanked the Chancellor of the En.
chequer for the very candid manner in which he had
made known the modifications, and Acid be fhoold
withhold all further oppofition to the Bill, on the part
of thofe from whom he had prefented petitions
again(!
Lord G. L. Gowta alto thanked the Right Ho.
nonrable Gentleman for his candour in explaining
his motives, as well u for the feveral *modifications
and alterations be propofed to make in the
He had in his head, he faid, a petition from the lace
manufaiturers, which, after what had }nil fallen
from the Right. Hon. Gentleman, he &add not preft
any farther.
Mr. Macram***, in behalf of the Silk ?danufae-
turers, expreffed himfelf highly. fatisfied with what the
Chancellor of the Exchequer had fo candidly Rifted.
Mr. Alderman Comas returned the Right Hon.
Gentleman his warmeß acknowledgments, not only
for his candour on the prefent. but for his general
candour on all occafions in which he bad an upper.
6;114 of (hewing it. Hi Paid, that at any &tun
time he mould be happy to give every ;Aflame and
facility to fuch further modifications or alterations as
might be deemed neceffary.
Gen. GASCOYM (aid, he was lorry he was obliged
to objea at prefent to the Speaker's leaving the Chair t
but a. he had no thanks to return to the Right Hon.
Gentleman for any candour be bad fhewn, as to that
part of the Bill which he bad the remelt °Nation
to, he hoped he thould be excufed if he made a few
obfervations on the fubjea. He objelted to this Bill
in In far as it limed to introduce w new principle la
making a dillinaion on the taxes to be charged in non
part of the empire more than another. He was well
aware that what might be oppreffive to Ireland might
not be fo to England ; and he was impreffed with the
idea that there ought to be no difference fubfilling be-
twixt thefe two parts of the Britiflt dominions, in re-
ttiell to trade and navigation. The laying taxes on
one part, and leaving the other exempted. was oh.
vioufly prejudicial to that equality in trade which
ought to AMR, according to the articles of the
Union. He was far from willing to extend a tax to
Ireland, which night be reckoned in any degree op-
preffive ; but he willsed that the trade of the country
ihould be put upon an equal footing. If, however,
it be Lid that the trade of Ireland requires tome ea-
couragement which this country does not, he thorld
not be againit allowing it t though he could not think
that loch could potfibly follow as a matter of right.
He would alit. %hat advantage has the trade of Eng'
land received from the Union with Ireland
he begged leave to read past of the Ail of nig"!
'did"! to the geniality in point of aariantooo al;i

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commeree, Which went to thew that the encourage
anent given to the one was always to he proportioned'
to that of the other.] He did not intend to deny,
that there might not be a difference of taxes in the
two countries, upon any other fubjett than com-
merce and navigation. If fuch a dilparity was law-
ful in regard to Ireland, Scotland might, with equal
propriety, claim the fame privilege of exemption,
notwithftanding the Articles of Union. by which it
was agreed. that all fubjees of the United Kingdom
fhould have free intercourfe with the Britifh fettle-
ments, except where it was exprefsly agreed to the
contrary. The principle on which this Bill proceed-
ed was not new ; for he remembered, that no later
than laft year, the fame thing was attempted, with
refpee to the Duty of Exports and Imports. It was
then laid, that Ireland was exempted from the erten-
Sen of that principle, and a Right Hon. Gentleman
lot now in his place came to the Houfe for the put--
)ofe of defending that meafure ; but he loon acknow-
edged that it was improper and unjullifiable ; and
:he Chancellor of the Exchequer was convinced of
.ts abfurdity ; and all thofe who fupported the prin-
ciple were thus obliged to give a negative to what
they had thus brought forward themfelves. A Right
Hon. Gentleman had obferved, that any alteration in
the propofed tax would not only be prejudicial to
Ireland, but even to his Conßituents; but for his part
he could not conceive how the latter could pollibly be
affected, fince all (hips from England to Ireland are
confidered as mailers, and are exempted from the
tax, fo that this Country could not be injured. The
only queftion he walled at prefent to have determined
was, whether or not the trade of one Country can
have inch a tax impofed upon it as to prove in any
refped injurious to the other? and he begged, there-
fore, to fubmit to the Houfe the following Refoluion :
" That there (boatel be sa inftrudlion given to the Committee
on the prefent Bill, to extend the Tonnage Duty on the Importa-
tion of any Article of Commerce brought into the Ports of Great
Britain, orally to Ireland,accordhl to the 6th Article of the Union."
The SPEAKER obferved, that filch a motion as the
one which the Hon. Member had juft now made could
riot be accepted of in the prefent Rage of the bufinefs,
as the eurpofe of it went to impofe a duty which does
not now exift, and which could only be done by the
Committee upon the Bill previous to the Committee
of the whole Houfe.
General Gascorti a was Rill inclined to think that
his motion ought to be received, even in the prefen►
Rage of the Bill. He could not, betides, underftand
upon what principle the framers of the Bill had pro-
ceeded, when they propofed to lay a duty of only 6s.
a ton on importation into the port of London, while
they made the duty into the comports amount to up.
wards of ten times as much, being no lets than 31. r as.
He thought that fuch a Rep would be pettedly im-
politic, and a complete innovation.
The CH•IiCtLI.OR of the EICNIVIR raid, that he
- perceived the Hon. Gentleman was extremely defiroub
to bring forward Ifs motion, while the Speaker was
kill in the Chair, tv,it he begged leave to inform him,
that fuch an inftration never was propofed on any
former oecafion. It wa, no lets than an inertation

to a Committee, not to perfift in that which the Houfe
bad formerly adopted, although the Bill had now
reached to the prcfent Rage, and was about to go
into a Committees of the whole Houfe. Whenever
the quetiion comes to be put with regard to the
amount of the duty on the whole importation, then
it would be open to the Hon. Gentleman to propofe
that there Ibould be an alteration in the duty about
to be impofed on wine imported into London, and that
imported into any of the out-ports.
The Houfe then refolved itfelf into a Committee
bf the whole Houfe, when the Bill was shitinaly can-
•eited, paragraph by paragraph, and the Chairman
(Mr. Alexander) reported progrefs. The report was
Ordered to be received to-monew morning.
Tit• C AAAAA Lunt of the Excnagyaa gave notice, that he
tumid to-morrow nave for a Committee of the whole Houk, for
The porpofe of impaling an additional Duty an foreign Poreclain
Reported Into this country• It was, he Laid, in centansplatlon to
tolfe the Duty on that ardele to fuck an amours, as to prove as
!flaws' direouragesseet to its importadon, has to moorage our

brine manufsetnie.
Tbe Houfc to relblve itfelf Into a Committee of the wbole Hook
id-mornrw, in order further to confider foam& of his Majelts's
Speech on the sad November, as related tossereandletranfoftiona.

LONDON.

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Forty thoufand additional Seamen, including eight
thourand Marines, were laa night voted by the Houle
of Commons.
The Hamburgh Merchants have applied to Go-
irchmsent for a convoy to be appointed to proceed to
Hamburgh, for the purpofe of convoying from thence
the velreh bound to the different ports of England,
and the Baltic. Their requeft has been complied with.
Accounts received by the Nautilus, Capt. Suety',
which left Bremen on the stli, and reached South-
*old on the sith, contradiet the news received from'
the port of Hull, of the French having entered Bre-
men. The following intelligence was alin yeflerday
tabibited at Mr. STOCIDALP'S 3 0 joss 10, 1803.
- We twee non amine ed aetherity that mount, have been
received frees a Senator at Hamborgh, defiling din their friend.
wodid be perfealy at cafe, sa a ciitnyaft had been tatcre.l into for
the protedige of the Hanfe Towne. ..td there la every rodeo for
believing that Hanover la included .1 the camped, sad that the
French veer (agreeably to the former information of the letter
dated sith ult.) bad ism Rapped in coniquence." .
No regular accounts have been received inns the
Continent. The above intelligence, however, agrees
better than fume other rumours that have been cir-
culated, with what we mould have es/idled from
known eircumfiances.
The Mersitear cf the 7th has come to hand. It is
chiefly occupied with congas from a pamphlet, in-
titled el Obfervations on the King of England's Ma-
nifeflo." Our Readers may eafily conceive of what
complexion.