Star.
London, England, 1817-06-21 00:00:00

NAVY LSTIMATES•

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
waved, that the House do resolve itself into a Com-
mittee of Supply on the Navy Estimates.
t. it C. PULE thought it would be better not toga
into the Committee until the Report, as it related to
the Navy Estimates, was before the House.
The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER
said, that in point of form, it would be better to go
into the Committee of Supply at present upon the
Navy Estimates, as no question was likely to arise
upon them. He should wish also to refer the Irish
Miscellaneous Estimates to the same Committee.
S:r JOHN NEWPORT thought one of these
Estimates would be enough for one night.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, his only motive in the proposal was, to consider
these Estimates trst, upon winch it was not likely
that any difference would arise.
The SPEAKER having left the Chair, the follow-
ing Resolutions were proposed by Sir Gkotton Wan.
BENDER :••-‘4 That a number of men, not exceeding
19,000, including 6000 Royal Marines, be employed
for the sea service for seven lunar months, com-
mencing June the 17th, 1817, and ending the .sth of
January, 1818."
Sir C. POLE wished to know whether these men,
serving in the time of peace, would be entitled to,
pensions, on the same footing as it their services were
performed in time of wart If so, it would create a
great additional Written.
Sir G. WARRENDER answered in the affirma-
e. Pensions he consideted of great advantage,be-
cause in the event of war, they might look, in conse-
quence of them, for the services of 15,000 of the best
men in the nes y. The 19,000 employed in time of
peace would not cause a great increase of pensions.
There was no part of the arrangements for the navy
better, in his mind, than. that by which the pensions
alluded to were panted.
Sir C. POLE considered the pensions not placed
upon a proper footing.
Sir G. HOPE wished to know, whether it was the
object of the Honourable Baronet (Sir C. Pole) to
di, away with the pensions of the army as well as
tt.e navy
Sir C. POLE said, he was desirous to see the Re.
port of the Finance Committee upon the subject
Mr. CALCRAFT knew that pensions were re-
ferred to in the Report of the Committee. Some re-
gulations were proposed. but they were prospective,
ard did not relate to per.sions paid at present. The
army regulatio:3 upon this subject were proposed by
a friend of hia, those of the navy were proposed by
Lis Majesty's Ministers. They were to be equalized.
He did not well know what opii.ion to form on the
Navy Estimates, as the Report was not before him.
It would be better to assume a sum, and let the bu-
sines* stand over until they had the Report.
..Tbe CHANCELLOR •of the EXCHEQUER
thought the course proposed by him would be more
convenient. _ _
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Sir C. POLE wished to know, whether k was Cer.
taiu that the Pension regulations for the Army mad
Navy were to be equalised.
CALCRAFT would not undertake to say
that such was the fact. lie only cocaut to ',taw what

had been recommended, prospectively by the Com-
mittee.
The Resolution was then agreed to, and the fol-
lowing sums voted :
For seamen's wages during seven lunar months, com-
mencing June IT, and ending lartaary 5, - .c252,70n
For victualling the ships - 2711,65`-'

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For wear and tear of ships - - 283,9;0
For the ordnance of the sex service - - 26,600
To pay off the Debt of the Navy and Transport
Service - - - - 1,660,000
For the transport of sick art wounded seamen, and
prisoners of war - i 20,000