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London, England, 1829-05-16 00:00:00

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• .wes net all used, Wads@ remaleder was sold to' meet theirEliat
• theism' yds:site "Ida it Was bought. - • .
ale. HOME sari that the only question fee the cousideration of
-the country was et what tate of Interest the.bills bad been passed?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, at four
' pet Cent: There was 250,0001. worth of silver purchased. 150,0001. ~
weeds of which not being used, was sold at the same price h cast,
, so that there was no loss to the Government on that; the remainder
' was coined, and was of course much mere valuable than before.
Mr. RARING said, that the prat on silver coinage was it per
• not. so that there should have been a considerable profit on the
. transaction. r
' After some further observations, the question that the Committee
of Supply should be postponed on Monday next was agreed to.
, . On domed's° of Mr. BARING, the India Office Bill was read
a second time; and, after some remark. from the Cuancattos of
the Exonnuvan, Mr. Hum. CAL Luannrwros, and Mr. Ramo, in
reply, it was ordered to be comdtitted on Monday next.
" . ildri PLANTA. moved that.* new writ should be issued for. the
borough of Aldeburgh, to return a Member in the room of Mr.
Jaime Walker, who bed accepted the Chiltern Hundreds.
:: -On the:notional the CHANCEILLOR of the EXCHEQUER
. the Seciesiestical Leases (Ireland) /301' was ordered to be lead a
second time ea Monday next. •
... On the motion of Lord L. GOWER the Fisheries' (Ireland)
' MI west through a Committee, and the report was ordered to be
received an Monday next.
Qtaibe Motion of Mr. POItTMAN the Order of the Day for
. tholortber consideration of the report on the Friendly Societies'
DU was read.
Atter a few words from Mr. HOLDSWORTH, the House
. went hue a Committee on the Bill.
Mr. COU WIEN A Y wished to correct a mistake which bad gone
abroad with respect to the part be had taken on this question last
' year. ' There was a great outcry raised against his measure, on the
krousad that be desired to abridge the freedom of the people con-
' earned in Erie:idly Societies. Now the fact was, that he was a warm
friend to fteedoin in all the concerns of life; but when a party came
before the Legislature to ask peculiar priviliges, he held that the
• • Legislature had a right to deal with that party in its wisdom.
Mr. I'ORTSIiIN regretted that it should have fallen td him to
have brought forward this measure instead of his Right Hunt Friend
I.(3ae;Courseeie), whom he was stiOsSed was actuated in bis.condact
es this measure by no other desire but that of bentfitting the Meat
.bers of Prlendly Societies. The prejudice against the Sill introduced
last Session, however, was so strong that it was steady to be feared
1 that any measure of this nature associated with the Right Hon.
' • • Gentleman's name would be met by opposition.
' 'Air. B. COOPER thought that the Magistrates at quarter ves-
',ions ought to have power to fix the amount of allowances accord-
ing to the sums subscribed. '
Mr. COU RI ENAY said that no friendly society could be se-
cure unless tie payments tiled by the rules were secured to the
members, and unless those payments were in proportion to the
sums received. Many clubs were broken up after existing several
years In consequence of the original miscalculations as to the allow-
.ances which' the society could afford: Disippni tttt neon and ruin
followed in such cases, to prevent which he would propose an
amendment, to the effect that the Magistrates at quarter sessions
should refuse to sancuon any society which bad adopted rules
• tounded oo calculations which the Magistrates did not consider
beneficial to ail the parties concerned.
Mr. PORTMAN had declined introducing any clause similar
to that propmed., because be was anxious to secure Magistrates
trona a responsibility which they could not hold satisfactorily. It
was impossible tor Magistrates to form an opinion as to the correct-
: mos of:any calculations which a society thought proper to found
It. rules upon. Mr. Finlaison bad declared that there were no
sufficient records to found such calculations' upon, for that the
mortality amongst the labouring classes could not be correctly
aiUmated, and teat there were no estimates as to the local
mortality. 'At clause now proposed wasObjectioliable, therefore;
as imposing a responsibility on the Jestices with respect to a subject
of which they.knew nothing; and be bad nu hear ation in saying
that,the dose would be highly objectionable to the members of
frietailly societies. tie (Mr. Portman) bad proposed a clause which
hr thought would give great security to the members of those socie-
ties, and by which it was enacted that annual statements should be
Made as to the funds of every society, so that the members might
boow how it was going on, and act accordingly. In condusiuo, he
expressed a hope that the Right Hoo. Gentleman would withdraw
his clew.
After a.few words from Mr. Worm and Mr. FYLER the clause
was agreed to.
. . The.setnaining clauses having been speed to the House resumed.
The report was brought up, and ordered to be received on Mon-
day neat*