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was brought up, and the Bill was etdeped w be. 9.01 i ddrkgbo•
on W4wesdity nest.,
TV Wei WICKIAOW mowid wood reodins.pf the Bill
for the better Prevenlon Alffrsces piano the Person in trchod•
Lord CA EBBE wined that she Nob Earl ( Wieblew)
veolteon.ent to postpone:the almond reading of shit Bilker a.t mire
day, is it was a measure of considerabli imrnitappt to )relami, and
p`there were so few Noble Lords present In the House.
The Earl of WICK LOW said. that the dlocus4ion on the mu.'
sure could be had it any future stage of its progress. He should
propose the committal of the Bill for Wednesday, when the discus
sion could take place, if his Noble Friend would now cousent to
the second reading.
Dill was then read a second time, a 4 Ordered ee be cow-
Dill
an Wednesday.
A number of other Dills were then advanced a stage, and the
Elapse AdOutiml at Twpwer Almerps yo Engl.

Lc& King's Beach; and' afterwards appeand to the flow
of birds, and it was during this process treat dole h,d
been upended. If Dr. Free had been sethfied to b,,,,
,brought his case to a hearing in the Eccliratnical Court
in the lira instance, there would have been a dect.ion on
!it within a year at the tuithest.
Do. anolja7iA,ll summed drat It 411 meta wt., aramo of,
the fees of pdaltiorwrs la the Reciesiatteal Courts, It ought to be
a return for a series of years. He understood there bad been min.
create is the amount of the fres of machismo for several year&
Sir JQI:I N NlCHOLierahl the Woe retrial', paid now its the-
Ecclesiastical Conde pe were settled by an Inquisition in 173.1.
Mr. HUME thee whisdoew his goodies. but 'eventide* thot, he.
would renew it on Fridayneat.
Lord MILTON moved for a pew writ for the University of
Cambridge, in the room of Sir Nabolas Thalia, who. since his eke,.
don, bad accepted the Chief Jusdatabip of the Court of C 0.,,,,
Pleas.—Ordered.
Sir J. GRAHAM preseoted a Petition from a person limpet
John titian*. formerly . resident a NOM but now residing ID
Minder, stating that he bad certain claims un the French Goyim,
meat. and praying the House tar direct the liquidation of tiny
claims out of the fund. now in the handy of Government.
Mt. C. t: RANT thought it would he for the sati.faetion of ear
public, as well as of the partty inter. tied, it a ceninus•ion was sp..
pointed for the oiljustment of the chirp. of Ileiti..b pubjects on thy
French Government. Tbe daimons einsW nev.t be unified b
any arrangement which could be made with diem on the part a ther

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
sir U. PARNELL pas notice that early vest Sentiou he would
move that p clrrrct imams should be tattoo at the population.
Mr. W. Rd ITH moved fur the production of certain Papers
relative to the Slave Population in the Kest
me C. PALLA Kit brought in a Bill for sbe better regulation
of party walls. fi was read u brit time, and ordered to be read a
second time this day three months.
Mr. S. RICE Presented p Petition front the town of Naas and
Monasterevan, in the county of Kildare, and from a town in the
county of Tipperary, praying fur the better regulation of Turnpike
Roads.

Treasury.
LION? NOOSES. Mr. BERNAL hoped his Majesty's Minister! would take tow
Mr. lIUME moved for certain additional Returns respecting
subject into their coeinderation, and that the Right Honourable talc
the light-houses along the coast, and gave notice, that iii the course
Chancellor of the &chequer would say whether there wa* der
hope of a speedy adjustment of those claims by a competent tribunal°
of the next Session of Parliament be would feel it his duty to call
the attention of the House to the wanton expense with which thine
The CHANCE I.oli of the EXCHEQUER said, that the
establishments were conducted ; as also that he would be under the
only object of his Majesty's Ministers was to do justice to Wittig
painful necessity of moving a vote of censure on all those who were
claimants. Until a classification of the claimants took place it was
concerned in that expense. useless to lay down any rule lot the compensation of indwiehol
COLONIAL •IMPIIALS.
Sir
Mr. C. PA LLMER gave notice that early nest Session be J. GRAHAM said there could be no objection to a claws.
should move for a Commission to in9uire Into the jurisdirtion and claimants.
cation ol the claimants, but he honed that a tribueal would be
practice of the Lords of his Majesty s Privy Council with respect
ornied for the adjustment of those claims, and that the publics/0144
to appeals front the West India Colonies and Acts of the Colonial
be made acquainted with the pounds of the decision hi every cake.
Legislation. The Petition was then brought up, and ordered to he printed.
Mr. CHARLES Pe I. LIIER presented a Petition from Jons-
A Niessage was brought hum the Lords signßying this!. I,ie4.
than Jary, stating that he had made some valuably discoveries for
sips' concurrence in several Public and Private Bilk.
escape front fire, reed praying that the same might be considered in Sir R. VY VY AN presentee: a Petition front a plate in Cameral
the Building Act.—Ordered to be printed. against the Buritiog of Wioarws, and ag. lust Slavery in the West
hlr. II U AIR Moved that certain returns should be produced front Indies.—Ordered to lie no the table.
Doctors' Commons to show the amount of the fees, profits, and
hir. D. W. HARVEY wished to know front the Right HAIL
emoluments of the King's Proctor, the King's Advocate, the Judge
Gentleman whether the Chief Jettice of the Common I legandsoit
and the several Officers of the Ctmaistorial Court, from the year
on tee ground of ill health. Ile could scarcely suppose 'hog east
1820 to the poem time. wasin his habits a
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Sir JOHN N ICHOLL could not agree to the lion. Member's knot
motion. He thought he might as well move for a return tit the
he would not be likely to accept the one if ill health had not drives
amount of private property of any individual as fur a reture of the
him trim the other. He had not been 16 years a Judge; therefore
fens and profits of practising lawyers. ho was aot entitled to the pension. Under these circumstances tie
Mr. FERGUSSON also opposed the motion. lie did not se
wished to know upon what struts that learned person bad retired.
what right the House bad to enforce a return from any professional
Mr. Secretary PEEL said, the only answer which he had to give
man of the emoluments of that profesdon. was, that the Chief Justice of the Coniston Pleas had Dot retired
Sir J. MACINTOSH could not agree with the lion. Member
in any manner that was nit perfectly cot urniable with the law.
opposite that the amount of tar feeg and emoluments of a law officer Mr. D. W. HARVEY presented a Wilton front the Journey.
were no more to by demanded than the amount of the private pro- meta Broad Sisk Weavers of Spitallield.„ taking notice of represent&
petty of an individual. It was a matter of great importance to the
tins having been made to the effect that they could earn 2.54. to lis.
public to know the amount of the expenses of going to law in those
per week, when the tact was that the did out earn within Si per
Courts; and all kluiry of shla nature was so tiecessary, tit,: wi:h.
Prot. as much as 1823, a per:ard when, on the admission or the
out it any inquiry into the administration of the law most be very
masters themselves, their wages was under 14s. a week. This
lame and unsatisfactory. When he avid his Hon. Friend were
misrepresentation had operated against them moss interim*, aid
practising at the bar they considered themselves as public officers. they prayed to he beard at the bar for the purpose of refutiag tics
They were not merely acting as private individuals, nor were their
charges brought apeinat them
fees and emolumetita private property. They considered that those
After a few words from Mr. T. BUXTON. the Petition,whish *as
'emoluments were cunuected with the discharge of their public duly.
to the following effect, was then brought up anal read :
Mt. SecretaryPEEL could not set how the I lousecouki demand .
from any public officer an :account of the emoluments which he lie. . • lo the Honourable the Commons of Great Britain and bawl
rived from private practice. Acting on the principle of the in Parliament assembled.
Holloonble Knight they might as well demand a return of the o The humble Petition of the Journeymen Broad Silk Weave/set
fees' of a medical man's profession, as it was of great importance Sphallields.
to the public to know at o hat rate medical advice could be afforded " Most respectfully skewed,
to thy poor. He was sure that the Hun. Member (Mr. Hume) „ That t your Pstirioners have read with surprise modal
would be the last man to require an account of the emoluments
meat' a discussion which is reported to have take* ebee le Inar
arising from the private practice of any professinual Gentleman,
Honourable Heuer 00 Tuesday last, upon a Palau/sprees:sated hem
and he would therefore suggest to biro to limit his motion to all fees
Mr. A. Moore, silk manufacturer, of London.
appojnted by law or proscription. 0 Your Petitioners cannot help expressing indignation at the rein.
Sir J. M ACINTOS ft detained. He had sot attempted to jos-
statements which that petition is reported to have contained co*
city any investigation into the particular emoluments derived from
cerning the rate of wages your petitioner. ate 'stabled to tabula.
the private practice of individuals. All that be washed tar was a
" Your Petitiotiers are ready to prove. at the bar of year Hos.
elifreesed.iirhuanti tntewavtaeratwgedevearnsihnigilisnogfetabewSpetkitalenfieldthcs Wneineaverendstssita
genetal inquiry into the expenses arisiug from thelees exacted by
thou law officers. As to medical men, he would beg to remind the
Right Hon.Gentlemau that their fees could not be regulated by the
the works that are now made; and, so difficult has it been to pls.
State, whereas law was the creature of the State—it was formed by cure employment even at that low rate of wages, that thousandse
the State, and was necessarily subject to the regulation of the State. looms have been idle for many months put, while the people trhs
Mr. D.W. HARVEY did not see why the fees and emoluments
once occupied them walk the streets in the most abject poverty,
of Members of the Bar should not be as much subject to the reps• literally, starving in the middle of plenty.
Intone of the Legislature as the fees of Solicitors. The charges of - •
" Your Petitioners beg to call the atteotionoraf your Hon. Hem
the one ought to he as much subject to scrutiny as the bill of costs
to the heart-rending fact. that many of them who are in haus.
of the other. The manner of entering the Inns of Court and of
M y
plkate a
That
the
your door
petitioners of a workhouses
rehouspesce t_ for
r parochial rofief.
p are Compelled, with an aching heart and indignant soul, to tar
going to the Bar ware likewise great abuses. They might not
abject to young Gentlemen who entered in those Into at an early .
Iu 11 beg leave to assure your
age, but when any one whose political principles were obnoxious to honourable House that their wages during the last six mosidoshave
them, and whose talents were considerable. wished to go to the been from 33 to 40 per cent. under the prices paid in Ism, ia
bar, they had the power, and exercised that pewee, of excluding him.
which year several silk manufacturer, declared belore a Committee
He should certainly move that an inquiry should be entered into of
of the House of Lords. that the average earnings of the silk.weevere
what persons were eligible tube called to the bar. did not exceed les. per week.
Mr. THANT said that there were instances when no cumpensa-
° Your petitioners beg to assure your HonourableHouse that the
don whatever was made to persons practising at the Bar: lie had vast body of silk weavers participate in the jeneral feeling of decided
it Iron a highly respectable solicitor that their fees were regulated
disapprobation expressed by your Honourable House with regard
by members of the profession, and, if any, one went on to the free- to the destruction of property in this district, occasioned by a few
trade principle, and accepted a fee under that scale, he was sent to infatuated and misguided unfortunate persons, which has, unhappily
Coventry by the other Gentlemen of the profession. brought the whole body under the odium of your Hunourable
Mr. HUAI E said that, so far irons wishing to force an account of and the public ;lend your petitioners would implore your Honors
the fees aristng from the private practice of the law officer. to oboist able House to give ample prat ction to the property of the we
be referred, he only wished for a return of those fees wiuch were fat Otters. and us the labour of the journeyman, which is his wie
exacted in virtue of the office. He should, therefore, itnroduce p p.
dose words into his motion.-I'b. returns were then ordered. " Your petitioners venture confidently to hope that your lisab
Mr. HUME said that the expenses of proceedings in the Eccle• House will be pleased to dismiss from your minds any prejudices
you may have imbibed ftom those circumstances, as well as teem
dastical Courts, were much too large. To put the llouie in pos.
&Won of the imount of those fee's, he moved that tfir costschaeged the unjust charges made against your suffering petitioners by an b-
and admitted in the cause of Briscoe it. Briscoe in the Consistury, terested individual.
/tidies, and Delegates Courts, should be laid before the house. st your petitioners, as men bearing their
proportion
of the ese
Sir JOHN NICHOL L said the case of Briscoe o Briscoe bad ceasive buttbens of the State, expect, as a tight, that your Hes.
bean before the Ecclesiastical Courts for thined years. It was House wiU devise some means of rescuing the suffering thouspode
cart led on in a most vexatious spirit both by the husband and wife,
,of SpitalSelds weavers from the anarchy and confusion under which
they now labour ; and your petitioners further pray that your Hon.and would give the House a very inadequate idea of the expense of
ordinary proceedings in the Ecclesiastical Courts.
Dr. PHILLI MORE observed that be was a Counsel in the Howie will summon to your bar as many silk manufacturers N
you in your Wisdominay deem proper. calling on them to ?m-
-ouse alluded to, aud'coold corroborate the statement of his Hight duce their accounts with their journeymen. in order to show that
Hon. Friend (Sir J. Nichol!) in every particular.
your petitioners are scarcely receiving sufficient. 'wages to nude
Mr. FELLGUSSON denied that the fees of barrister* were a fit nature, anti that the allegations in Mr. teliaore's petition eenaMb•
',Nese for Legislative inquisition, or that any membets of the bar supported.
reiortedlo the unworthy practices alluded to. •
'' Signed in the name and on behalf of the journeymen weavers
Sir J. MACINTOSH explained. lie never cmtended that the of Spitalljelds,
pgofits of individual haitioers should be inquired into; all that be
untended for was, that the fees received by the protessien gene. " iAES HURLEY. Committee of the Dete-
r/illy were a fit subject for Legislative consideration. 4" JAMES
' After a few words from Mr. Tease, Sir C. Btousau., and Mr. " CHARLES ROGERS, yen of Spitalfiells."
Fonclosioe, the Home was about to divide when The SPEAKER, pronounced the petition to be Irregular.
Mr. Secretary PEEL rose, and suggested that the Honourable Mr. HUME, without questioning the propriety of the
Member for Aberdeen should withdraw his motion for the present, Speaker's interference in maintaining the existing Vivi*
as tfie'returns mild not possibly be laid before the House during
the present Session. leges of the House, regretted that they should so steel
?dr. HUME said he would have no objection to withdraw his as that patties injured by !misrepresentation, what'll
motion. it' the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill was withdrawn until neat actuallynri6 there or by means of the medium through
&Pion. which their proceedings went forth to the pubric,shcal
Mr. D. W. HARVEY hoped his Honourable Friend
(Mr. Hume) would not withdraw his motion unless the hese no remedy—should not even be allowed to eantie
Ecclesiastical Courts Bill teas withdrawn. Tat It diet the false statement in the quitter where that tot
Honourable Gentleman at/mimed that the tine ..f Bin- trodiction was of the first imrirtance. Generally spssb
coe W. 1/riec4 eC4 13 years before. the Ecclesiastical ing they pro .eedings were correctly reported; ball
thought it would be a gteat public advantage if door
ennui, an4,-, surely such a circumstance was of itself
had reporters of their own, and the Speeches of Ralli
sufficient to induce the House to enter into a consider- Members were •
atioq of the practice of those Courts. A system must given to the public in as antbenticateli
form as possible.—The petition was withdrawn.
be bad which, enabled a, pmty. in-.Bt. auk, whether bus• Mr. C. W. WYNN presented a Petition from certain a 1
blood or wife,. to evade justice for thirteen years. A and Slakometao inhabitants of British ladle. praying that'll.
person wbOse case was now before the Ecclesiastical might be admitted to serve on Grand Jades* •
Mr. W. WRITMORE said it was absolutely en!
Courts—he meant Dr. Free—had called on him (Mr.
daysand st agver) aft- W aS ago, ted that his cage had sat y that we should pay the greatest attention to OP'
.. , , . •a
begn.pe.tosling, six „years,. and that •he bad spent 1,2001 feelings of the natives of India. He. hoped the ptsfor
in.litennting fur bis.delence. If Dr. Free was innocent of the Petition would meet with no opposition frc
,
he Was cruelly vied, and if be were guilty he was suf- House; and he looked forward to a time when 111/2
fifiectlicr.. nnisbed billowing 1,2001. to pay, and being would be governed upon a principle very different
~._ eat 00
'kepkun er. the, tatture of suspense for six years.
Sir ..I.I4ICACILL said, the . Bill before the House that which consisted in the patronage placed ill law
.bands of a few merchants.
Lord ASHLEY said a Petition of a similar new
btincipallp related to the Prerogative Court, but that
'life case. of Briscoe, v. Briscoe had nothing to do with' bad been presented last year from the natives
_, of war
. -
.C.ontr„..hatung been. before the Court of Arabes,
• ,liwice.tetwatto ,been
r theentii7ter; gone
Iftidoinstionfct CouGrt.nrilt appeared
emen to t,
ck every thing eqnnected with the Established Church, bay, which had been placed under the considenttio °I,
present hod a
ththeatbdeelphil of the
Ihnaddiabeen and ;Zest too short a dirrt
be enabled to entertain the question. He (Lora!!
red ii Ore, Ettlestastical Courts were connected with
s
was, however, folly authorised to state,
that thegresw
' . Esiwitalisbesi Churcb,that, wag a sufficient ma,a,b,faa exertions were now making in India t . introducenab.
islloadiabeoag fault wtionedith-thehm;.ha.AdsltnohDisr.oFwiper,4lctowt. troleostp(!eauemde
ttt'PkiseaCesn-o°' ofptporusttt,uannityd thofasot thedoingDi.rectEdutorsaytiacrns snslMs
wass,A.,
dii Sebring of hisCatise hating -akin it into .th C •
g
el-greatly on the increase. to two Presidencies there 0.0