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r.so a been examined as a witness in his own country?
Whether he had not seen a witness examined there? and
whether there were not other ceremonies than those just admi-
nistered to bins observed in binding a witness to speak the truth?
The LAW CII.INCELLOR requested that the Learned
Counsel would confinchimself to one question at a dine.
Mr. Wn.a.u.sts.—" Then I shall Binh my inquiry to one
question, to which all I have submitted resolves itself. I ask
whither of not, in his own country; other ceremonies were used
than those now administered, which he believed to be more
binding 'upon his conscience r
The 1..01:D CIIANCELLOII.—" The witness may be asked
whether he con*iders the oath now taken by him binding upon
hi; conscience?"

Mr. littunouAlt.—" We do not question the obligation arising
from the oath administered upon the witness, but we want the
'mast bisubn.;."—:'Order ! Order !

Lord EttsK IN E wav of opinion that the witness should be

bound by the oath, which had the most powerful effect upon his
mond ; and instanced a case in which his Lordship had been
concerned, where a witness, a foreigner, considered himself
bound by nothing but a ceremony, which was calculated to ex-
cite anything rather than a serious feeling.—The Noble Lord
spoke in so low a tone, that it was impossible to catch the par-
ticular details of this case, which had considerable effect upon
the House.

Mr. BM/CONAN again stated, all they wanted to know was,
hether the witness considered the oath he bad taken as bind-
; or if there was any other mode of swearing him that he
would consider it as a stronger and more binding obligation on
his conscience to speak the truth ?
Lord REDESDALE said, th:,t if the question proposed by
the Learned Counsel for her Majesty was necessary to be put,
..cry foreign witness who had appeared in the lower Courts
had been improperly examined.
The LORD CHANCRLLOR thought it would be proper,
and perhaps most azrecable to their Lordships, that the Learned
whu were then in the House, should retire to consider
• t question, and give their opinion to the house.
Tne questions were those which the Queen's Counsel had
v:i het: to put to the witness.
Lord ERSKINE again spoke in favour of the question being
; once.
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The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he recollected a trial at
the Assizes in A northern county, where a witness, who was a
eccentric man, refused to take the usual oath. On being
the reason why he objected ? he replied, because he had
an emit to swear no oath; but that he swore by his con-
, c.,.:nce, and held up his hand. After some little hesitation he
was permitted to swear in this manner.
The JUDGES having retired, and some observations on the ques-
ticn baring been made by the Loan Cnabczu-oa and Lord
}mists,

Earl DARNLEY rose. He said, that as on a preceding day
ti:eir Lordships had decided cn the impropriety of permitting
itcev•ts to be examined to remain in the House, in conse-
c..mce of which Sir William Gen had been obliged to withdraw,
he thought it was equally essential that the witnesses already ex-
amined should be ktpt apart from those who were yet to be
ca lied. Ile appealed to the Noble Lord opposite if this was not

proper ?
Lord LIVERPOOL did not conceive that they could pre-
vrnt the witnesses from associating together. All that could be
done was to order the respective agents to issue strong injunc-
tions to the witnesses not to talk together on the subject.
Mae Earl of W I NCHELSEA wished that a sketch of the
cabins on board the Polarca, and another of her Majesty's apart-
ments at 'Naples, so often alluded to and so imperfectly de-
scribed, should be furbished to their Lordships, as it would ena-
ble them to judge of their relative positions and tend very much
to facilitate the proceedings.
Earl DA It NLET again rose to speak on the subject to which
had already alluded. Ile thought was perfectly in the
ro,,er of the Noble Lord opposite to keep the witnesses sepa-
r .:e, for unless that was done, any injunction against their talk-
1. g together would be perfectly ridiculous.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, he neither conceived it
to be in their power, nor at all necessary, that the witnesses
on either side should be prevented from associating together.—
In ordinary cases at County Assizes, it was very common for
witnesses corning front the same part of the country to go to the
sane Inn, and he never heard that it was deemed necessary to
prevent it. It was still more natural that foreigners should, on
oming here, go to the same Hotel : this was the case with many
the witnesses, and he did not know how it could be prevented.
Earl DARNLEY contended that the present was a most im-
portart case, and, if it were possible, the witnesses should be
p•_r,nted from mixing together.

The Earl 14 ESSEX agreed with Lord Darnley.

Ti4e l'arl of 11A RIROWBY supported Lord Liverpool.

Yid DA lINLEY reiterated his arguments, and said it was
rxtremelydedrable that Theodore Majocco, who has been exa-
mined, should sot have familiar oonimunication with Mada.ne
Dumont, who has not been examined.
The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the Resolution of
which he had given notice yesterday, that their LorcUips
should waive their privileges in this case, and that the witnesses
tieing evidence on the present Bill should be subject to the
s. the pains and penalties in case of perjury as in the Courts below.
The Judges returned at 20 minutes past 11 o'clock, when
The Loan Cuter JUSTICE said, that he and his brother Judges
roasulted together on the question proposed to them, and it
. their opinion, that the most proper time to ask a witness,
• he considered the oath as binding, was before it was ad-
..,tered in the usual form; but they thought, that should the
•tli have been taken befitre the objection, he might still be
whether he considered it as binding? But if he answered
the .dfirmaive, he could not be asked if any other oath would
• niur.: binding. My opinion," said his Lordship, " is, that if
• 17 -.I says it is binding, he does affirm that all be says will be

7.1.1. Majesty's Counsel did sot press the question, and
ar Sluctron-Citzrzawa began the examination of Vintenza

To Witness —Were you Master of the polacca called the In-

aser :?—Yes.

Were you the owner of the vessel?—Yes, I am all the owner
• ; I. r ; but she is now no longer called the Industry, but
Alitahania.

Waa die vessel ergaged for conve)ing the Princess of Wales

het suite from Augusta to Tunis, and afterwards to Greece?
it was hired at Messina, where it was armed. At
her Royal Highness embarked for Tunis and Greece.
before her Royal Highness embarked at Augusta had the
:rrangtments in the cabin been made by you ?—Yes ; it was
:Lade :t MekginA

Did the Princess and Bergami come on board before embark-
:. g at Augusta, to see the disposition of the cabin 7—She came

•' .11:gui,ta.

Did sae view any of the cabins made by the witness ?—She
dil ; and ordered a door in the dining-room to be closed.
Before that dour was closed, bow many doors led into de
i—Two; one to the right,ar.other to the left.
WiAith door was ordered to be clos,:c1?--The door on the left.

Do you men au the left as you look to thcproar of the 'sp.
eel ?—Tes.

How was the door closed ?—/Caikd up.
After the door was closed was there any mode of colas into
the dining-room except by that door near the bed-room of
liergami 7—Yes, there was also a ladder from deck into the
dining-room.

Did that ladder go directly down to the dining-aSem, or was
there a door at the foot of it, which led into the dining-room ?
—The ladder led directly into the dining-room, but at the top
there was a hatchway which might be closed, and stop the
communication.

When that hatchway was closed, was there any other com-
munication except by the door near Bergami's room T—There
was not. •

Was the bed occupied by the Princess a single or a double
one?--It consisted of two sofas joined together, making a
breadth of about 6i fret English.

Did Bergami change his place of sleeping during the voyage?
—Two nights he slept in his own cabin, and afterwards he slept
on a sofa in the dining-room.
Where was that sofa situated in the room?—On the right
hand.

'Was it so situated, that a person lying in it could be seen by
a person lying in the bed of the Princess?—lf the door of her
Royal Highness's room was open it might be.
How many feet were the two beds distant ?—Ten or twelve•l
feet.

Did any one sleep in the dining-room, or about it towards the
stern, except her Royal Highness, the Countess Olds, and Berk
gami?--No, her Royal Highness slept in the room on the right ; ,
the Countess Oldi in that on the left ; and Bergand In the diu-
ing-r cum.

Did this manner of occupation continue during a great part
of the voyage?
111 r. WILLIASIS objected to this u a leading question.

The SOLICITOR-GENERAL altered it into How long did this
continue, arc.?—From the end of March till June, but after
their departure from Jaffa, in consequence of taking on board
the saddle horses and asses, her Royal Highness always slept un-
der a tent on deck.

How were the beds arranged under that tent?—A travelling
brd which the Princess had was put up for Bergami, beside that
of the Princess.

Where did Bergami sleep after leaving Jaffa ?—Under the
tent, together with the Princtss, in two different beds.
How long did liergami continue to sleep in this manner?—
Medi they landed at the port of Danzo.
Wu the tent open at night, or closed all round?—lt was
closed like a pavilion.

Who usually closed it was commanded to close it, and I
ordered two others to do it.

Was it at all open, so that any person could see into k ?—lt
was left to me to close it, and if I could not do it with curtains
I did it with pins.

When was it usually opened in the morning?—About eight
o'clock.

Did you often see it opened yourself ?—Often.
Did you see the Princess in the tent when so opened ?—Yes.
On these occasions, was she always up, or sometimes in bed?
For the most part I saw her sitting on the bed.
Where was Bergami at these times ?—Under the tent, coming
out.

Was he always entirely dressed, or how ?—I have always
seen him entirely dressed.
In what species of dress?—On deck he went with a Grecian
dress of silk, which he bought at St. Jean d'Acre, but when he
went on shore he was either dressed in a coat or as a Colonel.

After the tent was closed at night, was any light left burning
within it?—No.

Was there any light there at the time the tent was closed ?
When the weather was fair there was, but when it blew hard
the light was taken out upon deck.
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Who took it out upon deck on these occasions ?—Whoever
was present ; sometimes I have Liken it myself.
How long did the light remain after the tent was closed ?—lt
remained a short time.

Who usually handed out the light ?-13ergantl.

The Paris Papers of Sunday, with the exception of the Moni-
few, which came by express, have not yet arrived, though due
yesterday morning. The weather has been squally on the coast,
and that may probably be the cause of their detention.

THE reams —This day was a holiday, but the House was open.
Scarcely any business has been done, and this is owing to a re-
fusal positively made by the Bankers within these few days. It
seems the old scheme of borrowing Money to take Stock, for
the purpose of raising the Funds against Tuesday' next (the
Settling Day), has been attempted, but from the present Uncertain
state of foreign and domestic affairs, the Bankers have declined
lending, and therefore the speculators for a rise are completely
left at the mercy of the market. Consols are 67/ for the Ac-
count, but there appears no spirit in the market ; and, from the
numerous country orders to sell, a probability is entertained
that a further depression will ensue.—Private bargains :
Bank Stock 290-3 per Cent. Reduced 6111
3 per Cent. Cons. 671 1-5 per Cent. 105 102/ 105
Long Anns. Is 1-16—lodia Stock 21St 216
Eschequer Bills 4s. Ss. pre.—Consols for Account 671
Lottery Tickets £2l 18s.

His Royal Highness the Duke of YORK took notes
of various parts of the evidence in the House of Lords,
yesterday.
Yesterday the Duke of GRAPTON entertained a se-
lect party of Noblemen, at his house in Piccadilly.
The answer to the numerous inquiries yesterday,
respecting the state of the Marquis of WORCESTER,
was, that his Lordship had passed a tranquil night,
and is in a fair way of doing well.
Yesterday the Earl of I{ARROWBY gave a grand
Cabinet dinner at his house in Grosvenor-square, at
which the whole of the Cabinet Ministers attended,
except Mr. CANNING.
Yesterday the Earl of LONSDALE gave a grand din-
ner, at his house in Charles-street, Berkeley-square.
There were present—

The Duke of Montrose, the Marquis of Headfort, the Earl
of Clue, Earl of Ashburnham, Lord Strangford, Earl of Shaftes-
bury, &c.
Yesterday, the Earl and Countess of DERBY gave
a grand dinner at their house in Grosvenor-square.
Amon& the company were—
The Earl and Countess of Jersey, Earl and Countess of Darn-
ley, Lord and Lady King, Earl Grey, Lord A. Hamilton, Mr.
Creevey, &e.
Yesterday Lord HOLLAND gave a grand dinner, at
Holland House, to a large party of Noblemen, &c.
Lady Rous, the Dowager Lady AMHERST, Lady
MORTIMER, Lady LOUISA SMITH, the HOD. Miss
ST. LEGER, and the Hon. Miss E. SMITH, have joined
the distinguished female circle at Bath.
The Hon. Thomas LISTER, son of Lord AMBLES-
DALE, now an a tour in Italy, has unfortunately been
visited with a violert paralytic attack.