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London, England, 1829-03-19 00:00:00

not a fair way of putting .th' questions- it wasiatirta.
ing that the measures gave poseessson, whereas they
olds gate eligibility. They did not coriftr Seats and
offices—they. only granted capacity for seats and office%
But that was the fallacy that ran through the minas of
those who were alarmed about the concessions; they
at .de nu distinction between granting power and cob:
ceding eligibil.ty fur poser. But it was said. how would
the Lug be tar tatted ageism. 'Popish adsbers? 'lam
King might now have them twat his person in ;ft
tesponsible character ; and what danger had resulted?
He thought thee-woe no round Us • *mob eve eye.
alerts, not of ixtring mains ot a P posh way of think;
mg, so long is the Coronation (Oath existed. But, it
was suptinsedjliat it them ineaantit* were carried, a
considerable number of Roman Catholics would °biota
it that were so, where were the pagosol history
that world jit tJy them io saying these would be at.
sided allegiance? He also denied that a repeal of the
exclusive character cf the Constitution (a:i exclusive
principle that did not naturally belong to it) would ea.
danger the Coast/whoa; it was not etetailtty a pale
of the Constitution. hossever much it might be admired
by the Hon. Member for Newark thlr. Sadler ). and its
removal would not affect its stability; on the contrary, k
*Quid sotengthen the Constitution. As to theCoustitetma
requiring a moral qualification, that would he the test
of Ciiiistianity—that had be' n solid:crossly answered
by an Nomad-40,1e Alember (Mr. It. Grant) who tea
unity spoke. Acianding o. the lesi•, Deists, Atheists,
any body might qualify for office, eacein Rumen Ca.
theilics; and therefore 11111.% OUIJ it be said that such
la./titer 14 the Constitution seemed l'itifessol.en
of
:Chriatigui.ty ? If that mope so, then had the weld
far at IrA•t thirteen minutia. sti.tliout any Citistianity.
Bit Le hoped the debates were beginning to mate the
country acquainted with the teal yoestion in lie
repeated. exclusion was not a pear.ciple of tit: Cowl to.
tion; not had it hen till the time of toot (pleb:sled
inventor apd reform-r, Dr.. Titus Oates. It WAS not as.
itibutable to King Vifillians : that Monarch, by 'Om
Treaty of Limerick, showed that he thought the lLomsn
Catholies might be treated with, th t there was no pais
epic f eacludoir actuating him. He considered riat
the atter:nem made to 1088 were not borne out by
the due itiecetigauop of the facts of that petiod.....
defecti•in of King *Natal made the prate, ding
compulsory ; and as rush would be delenstble under
like circumstances. if they could recur ; but be was
somewhat %arrived that it should be taken as a pattern
era. As to the measure., however, now proposed, lie
rep-aced, they had his deside.l apiantiation. Heretofore
them had been burning., messacie., enmities trail:mt.
titan tattier to son ; and them was now required is
Ireland a large miiitary force; but .dada these measure,,
get rid of leltat now diagiaced the Statute Ow k, and
the advaroirges it conciliation *cud soon appear.—
Notwahstau.ling all the swap's, the arguments, and the am.
mou place of the ilwinurable Member fur work, he emended
that the nitasure -before the li.mse was no departure tenet
the visit of the Gnotituthai it itirte. The Constitution was
coaled in the time cf King for the people, and sot the
people fee the Coustittioun. And if at that time the soles et'spul
was the greet point consulted, why should it not he so still? The
lion. Gentleman then enumerated the powers and influence pot.
seated by the Catholic., and contended that in their present positiste
they could be 10'044 op yto the fatten angel. It was not fur the
dietiffy„ the security, nose the prosperity it the Empire, that they
should be left to such a condition. list, if the fear of danger was
still to.induce the House topers:, ttruld course, why should out
greater fears excite a ditfcrest.pidement ? had been asked, why
Shahid two-thirds of the umpire give way to one.tidril? And
there might be some force In the interrogatory If the 'Roman
tingles were scattered throughout the Three hinedoms; but there,
as the case stood it present, it had little strength. It bad bite
also *shed. why should our the proposed measures have bees
brought forward years before? Ile replied; that the spleen of
resistance had been tried till raperkoce proved it to be vain, qe, of
not wain, Hermits. For thirty-6n year. the system of resistatice •
bad been pursued, and he would ask those who were the loudest
fur cachalots, whether, if the amplaences of the proceedings at
those thirty.five years could have been anticipated, or were again
to be acted over, they would be prepared to recommend their
Suvereigu to adopt exclusion? Much bad been said of the caudate
of his Majesty's Ministers • but the chief duty of that limp/ wets
to consider what they themselves ought to do. In former pots
'there bad been divialone, and no hope held mit • but now OP
binet was united, and the Gracious Speech of his Majesty bad held
trot wept of relief to tbeCathetiet. From the moment that hope
was held out, their circumstances were changed.. and be meld not
think %pa** to the measure any Wager justifiable. With the
securities he was perfectly satisfied, although he drolly believed
that the leist acuity Weald be foetid in the pasting of the tam-
. sure itself..

Lord MOUNTCHARLES rose to melte one of two
observations, as the time was nearly arrived when the walleof that
House would coaaeso echo Wilh the subject Wars thee ft"'
night to night and from year to year. He would ask those who
charged the Itittrae with being Priest ridden, what would be
their fmlinp tr• nw their religious rites and area held
9p to scorn ? irmald they not also, to such 4 case, be disposed to
show a stroqg edbecence to their faith ? He was not the amide@
of the CitliOlfc Religion, but be would say that there was nothing
Mere degradipi to a Roman Catholic than to ask hint to vote fur
Repesentatife who was opposed to it, -and those who believed
Mil. • He thanked his Majesty's Government sincerely for their
Istembrence in the question, for, had the) not interferedathe batch
*Agit have been fought sulaatilinilif for year.. He must, hog'
VFW, espreu his sorrow at the intended disfranchisement of the
forty shilling freeholders, although he admitted it to be a soli
cateatial to the tarrying of the measure. The genius of Cannim,
awl the labours of and Fos bpd bees in vain directed to the
pitahrisent of what the Right Hon. Secretary fee the Howe
was about to bring to a happy conclusion. He trusted
the Itlglik Hon. Gentleman would persevere, regardless of the
angry ebnWtioos directed towards him, and looking lot hie reward
from a grateful people.
Lord PALMERSTON, though anxious to state a
few reasons for lending his support to the measure, dr
piecated any intention to trespass long upon the limed
the Haus& His opinions Pete grounded on the sito•-,
tiAo of liel4nd.• although they had been told la .t night
by the Hon. Member for Newark (Mr. Sadler), whe
spoke fortho brit time, and in a strain of eloquence pod
alrili which even those who differed from him must
wrimste-;-(Hear). But he felt in a high degree enbbar•
ruled when about to touch on that important measure
Which had,for its object the restating of tranquillity. re
10.1aeda The .11100- Member seemed to think that he
might &how prOtwaely from his varied stoles 4 f leatoing
—hose history, ancient and modern—from political
economy—flop all but the affairs of !mind. Be-
fore going. farther he would advert to the remarks d
au Honourable Gentleman and an Honourable Ba.
ronet made to prose that the • measure of relief was
opposed to the views of those who founded the Revo-
lution of 1688, and formed the basis of the Comilla-
tion. He entertained the highest respect for the memory
of the great men who rescued the nation from the dual-
dam of religious intolerance, end from the bondage of
arbitrary power ; but be considered it was paying thee
bad homage to practise that very intolerance whet
they had succeptfully resisted, and to deny w others
those 1fg.41 which they bad established. An Houma..
able Melbber had brought forward the declarative of
the Prim daf Orange, sad had contended that the views
of those- who sealed the Constitution of 1688 were
mainly dictated so the inclusion of Rosen Catholics.
This be ,(Lotd•.Palareestop) would not admit; bat be
would maintain that the declaration, if properly read,
was in favour of* coutrary opinion, sad that it was ore
levelled -particularly agaibst the Catholics, box chaff
to protect.the laps from the pressure of arbitriry power.
For what purpose had the Parliament been formed
What was the objection of she Convaation, but to secs!.
to such of,thasubients.d this realm at lived peaces*