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Mr. Alderman EARLE said that be had much pleasure in
moving that the memorial be referred, and he hoped that
something would be done, as Lieut. Low was a highly ill-
used man.—Referred.

STATUE OF MR. HUSK ISSON.
The MAYOR then laid before the council the following let-
ter from Mr. Rosson, a barrister, which, he said, seemed to
have been written under the mistaken impression that Mts.
Huskisson had consented to the removal of her late husband's
statue from the Cemetery.

" 55, Soho•street, Dec. 12, 1838.
" Sir,—ln the report of the proceedings of the council on
Wednesday last, I observe, with great satisfaction, a letter
addressed to you by Mrs. Huskisson, containing the reason-
able request that ' the statue of her late husband might either
be removed from its present site to the great room in the
Custom-house, or that she might be permitted to place ano-
ther there, either similar to, or of equally appropriate design
with, the one in question.
" Before the statue was placed in the Cemetery, a sense
of what was due to the memory of the late Mr. Huskisson,
and to my absent friend Gibson, as an artist, obliged me to
draw the attention of the London and provincial press to the
inappropriate building destined to receive it. I showed, in
those communications (and my statements have since been
verified by architects of the highest name), that the temple,
in the Cemetery, both with reference to its size and form,
was totally unfit to receive a work of that magnitude. In
truth, the statue ought either to be removed from the temple,
or the temple from the statue. The former course is, incon-
testably, the one to be pursued; for, by removing the statue,
and substituting in its place a Grecian sarcophagus, of just
dimensions, you will not only benefit the sculptor, but also
the architect, whose structure will thereby cease to be ob-
noxious to the criticism to which,' whilst the statue remains,
it will be perpetually exposed.
"This consideration, I humbly submit, ought to have due
weight with the founders of the Cemetery, who, by yielding
to suggestions now universally made, will relieve the inhabi-
tants of Liverpool from the mortification which they feel
when the existing incongruous union falls under the critical
eye of distinguished strangers and foreigners of taste.-1
have the honour, sir, to be your most obedient, humble ser-
vant, " JOHN ROSSON.
" To Hugh Hornby, Esq., Mayor, 4-c."
'rhe following letter watt also read in reference to the same
subject:—

Trees-m. - Chambers, 31st December, 1838.
Sir,—ln answer to your application of the 22d instant, re-
questiug the approval of this board of a resolution of the coun-
cil of the borOugh of Liverpool to accede to a proposition on
the part of Mrs. Huskisson to place a statue of her late hus-
band,under the dome of the Long Room, in the New Custom-
house of that port; I have it in command from the lords com-
missioners of her majesty's Treasury to convey to
you the con-
currence of this board in the permission proposed to be given
by the town-council of Liverpool.
I am at the same tiine to state to you that my lords will give
the necessary directions to the commissioners of customs.

I am, sir,
Your obedient servant,

To the Mayor of Liverpool.
NEW CHURCH.

J. BARRY.

A letter, signed by N;7li.liiciersteth, Mr. A. Hodgson,
Mr. C. S. Parker, Mr. 'l'. B. Horsfall, and Mr. Wm. Jones,
was read. It had reference to the application made at the last
council meeting for the grant of the reversion of a piece of
land between Gill-street and Great Newton-street, for the
erection of a church, intended to be consecrated by the name
of St. Barnabas, and stated that the memorialists had now se-
cured a more eligible piece of land for the purpose, namely,
on the north side of Pembroke-place, now railed in, and used
as a garden in connexion with the house occupied by Mr.
Musspratt. They applied for a grant of the last-named piece
of land, at such reasonable price as might be agreed upon, for
the purpose of erecting a church for Divine worship accord-
ing to the rites of the established church, together with a
school-house and minister's house, in connexion with the
church, and also for having vested in them and their suc-
cessors the right of preseutation.—Referred to the Finance
Committee.

ALL SAINTS' CHURCH.
A letter from Mr. and Mrs. Banister, proprietors of All
Saints' church, Grosvenor-street, was next presented, iu
which they applied to the council, as patrons of the rectory
of Liverpool, fir permission to consecrate the church for Di-
vine worship, and to have vested in them the perpetual pre-
sentation.—lieferred.
MECHANICS' INSTITUTION.

A memorial from the trustees of the Mechanics' Institution
was then read. The memorial stated that by virtue of an
act of parliament passed in the reign of her present Majesty,
the trustees were empowered, with the consent of the town
council, to borrow a su►n of money not exceeding £l,OOO,
the total amount of the debt then remaining upon the build-
ing. That by means of subscriptions, and donations the
trustees had been enabled to pay off a large part of the said
debt of £4,000, and there was now rema►n►ng unpaid £1,600
only. They therefore requested that the council would be
pleased to pass a resolution to enable the memorialists to
borrow the su►n of £1,600 upon a mortgage of the institution.
—Referred to the Town-clerk, under the direction of the
Finance Committee.

COMPLAINT AGAINST A BYE-LAW.
Along letter from Mr. Hopkins, of Castle-street, was pre-
sented, in which he called the attention of the council to the
" twe-law of summons and fitie,'.7 which, he. stated, might be
made the medium of arbitrag oppression, and went on to
complain of two decisiorisAf, Mr liall ogainst bim, in con-
sequence of his shop-laif lutFing deposited ashes in the street.
• Mr. Councillor Its.wricopl4,, thought that. the case was out
of their jurisdiction.- ~,i
The TowN-Ct.Euit.,'Vei-Fircd that they could not sit in
judgment upon the decistonsof Mr. Hall. The bye-law re-
ferred to by Mr. Hopkins formed part of a local act.
Referred to the Town-clerk, so far as respected the com-
plaint against the bye-law.
COMMITTEE PROCEEDINGS.
The Tovvri•CLERK read the following document, which he
had prepared, with reference.to the proceedings of commit-
tees:—
_ .

"That in future the Town-clerk's summonses for the coun-
cil shall mention the proceedings, resolutions, and reports of
the committees of tho, council separately as follows :—"lhe
proceedings,: resolutions, and reports of the
mittee.'
" Aticithat upon the report to him of the clerk of the com-
mittees,he- shall add thereto the short heads of all proceed-
be ordinary nature. as follows :—atiaVitiiiii
conservancy of the river—interview with Mr. Wilson atten
—proposed scheme—separate warehouse for saltpetre—mar-
ket at the north end of the borough, &c., as the case may
require. •.- !'
"'That this direction shall not extend to the Mayor's no-
tice of the council to be posted on the Town-hall; but such
notice shall be in every respect as heretofore.
"'That all pi oceedings, resolutions, and reports, respective-
ly of every committee intended to be laid before the council,
shall be open to the inspection of every member of the coun-
cil for two.cfas before the meeting of the council, at which
they are to be submitted between the hours of ten and four
in there the piece to be stated as may be appointed.]"
Mr, Councillbr JOHN SMITH prOposed that the chairmen
-of all_ the committees should form a special committee for
the consideration of the subject, and that, after having as-
certaioedthe feelings of the respective committees over which
they presided, they should report to tho council.
Seconded by Mr. Councillor BotzoN, and agreed to.
PAVING A\ t) SEWERAGE ACT.

Mr. Councilor MASON called the attention of the council
to a notice given by the Paving and sewerage commissioners,
of their intention to 'apply to parliament for an alteration
and enlargement of the powers of the act under which they
are constituted. - When the act was obtained, it was said
that the total expenditure for sewerage would not exceed
£loo,ooo—a sum which was to be raised by a rate of 4d in
the pound, which, it was expected, would yield £300,000
annually, so that the rate would only need to be levied for
ten years. But what had been the result? The full rate of
4d in the pound had been levied, not half the work had been
done, and the people, it seemed, were to be burthened for
an indefinite period with the tax.
The TOWN-CLERK said that the notice had not escaped
him, and he should look out for a copy of the bill as soon as
presented. At present it would be premature to bring the
subject before the council.
Mr. Councillor COOPER said, that as a commissioner of the
highway board, he might be permitted to say that the sum of
£lOO,OOO would be amply sufficient. He had heard nothing
of the notice till he saw it in the public papers, and did not
know how it got there.
THE BUILDING OF MORE CORPORATION SCHOOLS.

Mr. Alderman Beate. then rose rose to bring forward his mo-
tion. He said,—Mr. Mayor and gentlemen, the subject to
which I would now draw your attention, is an endeavour to
improve the condition of the lower orders, by giving them an
extended system of education. The subject is one of the
highest importance; but us the resolution which 1 shall take
the liberty of proposing to you this day will not commit you
to anything, I don't doubt but 1 shall have your cordial sup-
port. If 1 thought any lengthened arguments, or deep
reasoning,, necessary for obtaining your approbation, I should
have placed the matter in better hands than my own. Nobody
can pass through the streets witheut being alive to the
wretched condition of the ehi:dren of the lower orders, who
seem solely oectlpied with wallowing in the dirt and throwing
it at one another, and not unfreqeently accompanied with
oaths. We cannot be 'surprised that our gaols are tilled with
offenders when our streets ere- filled with such characters.
We have all of us had the benefit of a good education our-
selves; but if neglected as these poor children are, we should
probably have been no better than they are. It we feel these
advantageS, we ought to endeavour ter impart them to the
children whtise parents are not able to procure them for them.
It is in vain to hope that any private benevolence will ever
supply sufficient instruction to bring about the requisite be-
nefit. If. the schools are examined into, the bulk of them
will he found lo be very far from what they ought to be. It
is true the sums subscribed for-them • are large; -but ae the
same time.perfectly inadequate to give those schools a proper
class of masters; neither can they supply them with the
proper books, maps, &c. All these require a great deal of
money, that can only be supplied out of public funds. For-
•tunatt:dy we have these at our disposal; and it would be a
proud thing for Liverpool if she had the honour of first
establishing a general system of education on a liberal scale
out .of the public funds. The government would gladly do
this, but they are thwarted by the prejudices of the intolerant.
Thank God, we are tree from these prejudices, and cannot do
better than have schools on the admirable system we have
already. (" Ah !" and cries of "No, no.") Those gentle-
men at the other end will have an opportunity of replying.
It is a s‘stern which has been sanctioned by sonic of the
highest•dignitaries of the Church of England. It has been
aporoved of by the Rev. Baptiste Noel. One would have
thought that would have curbed some gentlemen from giving
vent to the vituperative language which they have, and in a
manner little becoming the character of gentlemen, and little
in accordance with the principles of that book which they
would fain have us believe is the guide of their conduct.
(Loud cries of "Order, order.")
The MAYOR rose and said,—l am sure Mr. Earle will
retract that expression, "unbecoming gentlemen ;" it is ge-
nerally considered as very offensive.
Mr. Alderman EARL had a clergyman in my eye at
Kirkdale who had done it. lam very sorry if it is out of
order. Lord Stanley advocated this system of education as
applied to Ireland, and if Lord Stanley had used his sound
judgment, and had not been so anxious to please his party,
his own good sense would have. told him, if it was applicable
to Ireland, it was peculiarly applicable to Liverpool, where
we have an immense Irish population, and that of the lowest
description. The system has been attacked by the intolerant
bigots of all parties, Catholic, and Protestant, and who have
assailed it by declaring it was calculated to inculcate doctrines
opposite to their respective religions; both cannot be right
at any rate. With respect to the schools, wherever they
have been established they have flourished, and are crowded
to excess; which shows that they are appreciated by the
parents of the children ; but they are not appreciated as they
ought to be, for if they are not at the very doors of the
parents, they lose a great deal of their utility. If the reso-
lutions should lead to the establishment of these schools when
we have the power to do so, I anticipate the most beneficial
results. I would have every economy in the building of the
schools, but a judicious liberality in supplying, the best mas-
ters, so that the lower orders shall feel, and acknowledge
that these schools are schools in which their children can be
instructed in a mariner to enable them to obtain their
liveli-
hood in a respectable manner, and make them good subjects,
and good men. If our schools be established on that ground
they can never be shaken. 1 shall beg to read these resolu-
tious

" That this council cannot reflect upon the depraved and
degraded state of a large portion of the children of the work-
ing classes in this town without feeling itself imperatively
called upon to use its loust strenuous exertions to ameliorate
their conditiOn. That it is the opinion of this council the
most effectual means of accomplishing this end .is to give
these children the opportunity of obtaining a moral and reli-
gious education, and that any surplus of the corporation
funds cannot be employed in a manner more noble, or wore