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ivies had produced ; and should he continue at the fourth, expressive of the opinion of the Hanse on
head of that immense power, which was constantly those facts.
increasing, and which had hitherto been exerted but , Mr. HERBERT wished to km)* if the Noble
to the annihilation of those who opposed it, he thought ' Lord was resolved to press the business forward on
it probable we might have to contend against it for Monday. The evidence was extremely long, and he
our very existence. With this impression on his hoped the House might have one more week to
con-
mind, he thought it was necessary to foster, encou- sider it.
rage, and even to seek out milker, talents, that we It was answered, that Gentlemen had had an
might be enabled to meet it, and resist it with success. opportunity of hearing the evidence in the Commit-
Ile concluded by moving,_ i tee. The Minutes too had been printed from time to
That Sir Robert Nilson, and the troops under his command, time, as the business proceeded ; so that gentlemen
by entering Spain in September, 1808, in the moment of peril had been in possession of the evidence in sufficient
and alarm, and by the resolution they displayed in the face of a time to enable them to make themselves masters of it.
superior force tM the ensuing May, when Sir Robert Wilson fefi
TREASURER OF POST-OFFICE IN IRELAND.
back to join the army of Lord Wellington, under whom he served Sir JOHN NEWPORT brought forward a Mo-
a Brigadier-General, had rendered services to the common
cause-3a which merited the thanks of that House,which the Speaker tion, founded on the Ninth Report of the Commis.
should be directed to communicate to that officer." sionors for Inquiry into Offices in Ireland, as to the
The CHANCELLOR of the .XCHEQU,ER superannuation of the late Treasurer of the Post Of-
was certain no dispositions existed to undervalue the fice in Ireland on his full salary, after having held
services of Sir R. Wilson. As far as they went, they the office for eight years, during no part of which time
well deserved every encomium the Hon. Gentleman had he discharged any of the duties of it. This the
had bestowed on them. It was, however, so unlike Report stated to be a violation of the rule laid down
what they had ever done before, to vote thanks where by the Irish House of Commons, limiting the services
no signal instaxe of victory called for them; that of persons superannuated with their full salaries to
valuable and important as his services were, he could those who had served twenty-five years ; and the
not accede to the motion. He hoped the Hon. Gen- Honourable Baronet concluded by moving--
tleman would withdrass; it, and not compel him (aisle i " That the late Treasurer of the Post Office in Ireland had no
otherwise must) to oppose it, and the House to re- fair claim to such superannuation; that the allowing him to re
tire onn his full salary was a departure from the salutary rules laid
fuse their Thanks, as he apprehended in that case do by Parliament, and a dereliction of the principles of
they would. The Hon. Gentleman must have been economy •.-o which they were pledged.
par t'y ware it coulli not be acceded to, as he 'had. Mr. W. POLE argued that this office had been tt
stated there were no precedents fur such a motion.— sinecure, and was abolished, as was usual in such
H e must also be aware that there were many gallant cases, with the full salary, an efficient office being
affairs the coutse of that campaign which had not substituted in its stead. This, therefore, was not in
receive(i their Thanks; that even the battle of the the nature of a superannuation. He concluded bay
Douro, brilliant as was that action, had noibeen deem- moving the previous question.
ed of sufficient importance to call for thatlonour, ant The Motion of Sir Joint NEWPORT was supported
honpur which, he was of opinion, ought not to be by Mr. WHITBREAD, Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY, Mr.
conferred but on some signal occasion. GRATTAN, MI". PETER MOORE, Mr. GILES, Mr. M.
Mr. CANNING thought the grounds stated by FITZCERALD' Mr. BARHAM, Ecc. and the previous
his Right Hon. Friend, and the general conduct of question by the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, Mr.
the House, precluded the possibility of carrying the ROBERT DUNDAS. the SOLICITOR GENERAL, &C. .
motion, at least in such a manner as would be grati. On a division, the motion was negatived, the num •
fying to that meritorious Officer. Valuable as his ben being—for the previous question 52—for the ori-
services were, they were not such as to call for the ginal motion 31—majority against tae motion 21.
Thanks of that House. They must all remember LOCAL MILITIA.
many such applications having been made, and the 'Mr. Secretary RYDER moved for leave to bring
motions being subsequently' withdrawn. That he in a Bill to amend the Local Militia Act.
thought would be done in the present instance, if the Mr. WHITBREAD disapproved of the .unneees•
feelings of Sir Robert Wilson were properly consulted. sary multiplication of oaths. He also suggested the
The battle of the Douro had not been thought intitlod propriety of reducing the pay of Field Officers, to
to such an honour. The cavalry belonging to the what it had formerly been under the old Militia,
army enraged at Corunna, and General Paget, who namely, to the pay of a Captain.
bore a si:dlcient mark of having deserved well of his Mr. GILES complained of the burden thrown on
com,try, had not been included in, the thanks given some counties where there was no eolunteering into
by that liel:se ; he, therefore, was of opinion, they the Local Militia, by an excessive recruiting into the
cold riLa with propriety give them to Sir Robert Ordinary Militia, in consequence of their wives be-
Wilson. The Honourable Gentleman seemed, with- coming chargeable on the county.
out cruse, to think his services spoken lightly of ; and, Leave vas given to bring in the Bill, which was
in a former debate, some remarks had been made on brought up, read a first, and ordered to be read a
Lord Wellington having spoketrof him as being "an second time to-morrow.
able partizan ;" in so expressing hiinselfishe conceived PRIVATELY STEALING.
that Noble Lord had no intentions otherlhais 144 Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY moved the second
of so cleziacterising that service in which Sir-Rd:Pert reading of the Bill for preventing Privately Stealing
Wilson hod so eminently distinguished himself, and in Shops. '
which, if it did not entitle him to the thanks of that After a feW Wordi' from the SOLICITOR-GE-
House, had gained him the esteem of every man in it. NERAL, reserving to himself still to discuss the prin.
Central TARLETON would bear testirtiony to ' ciple 'tithe BiJI, ik *as read a second time, aod corn-
the merits of Sir Robert Wilson, but had reasons for nutted for this day se'anight. As were also the Bills
being of opinion it would be best to withdraw the for better preventing Stealing in Dwelling-houses,
motion. With respect to what had been said of the and On Canals and Navigable Rivers.
app:ication of the word " partizan" to Sir Robert The Committee on the Embezzlement Bill was
Wilson, he would observe, a " partizan"- was a Ge- postponed till to-morrow.
send in miniature. He was his own cotnmissariat, &FLUIDICS OF 'rue CROWN.
his own quarter-master, adjutant, &c. and had to Mr. H. MARTIN gave notice that he should to-
procure his own intelligence. It was the best field morrow move for a Return similar to that which had
for Officers to display their talents in, and for forming been made in the year 1750, for the Number of offi-
a General. He thought the motion would be well ces, and the Amount of the Emoluments of each, in
withdrawn ; and the state of Europe was such that t.the patronage of the CrOirri. This he should move
it could not fail of affording Sir Robert Wilson ample for; with the view of ascertaining whether the Influ-
opPortunittes of distinguishing himself, so that the ence of the Crown had or had not increased since the
thanks of Parliarnentwould be awarded to him without motion of Mr. Dunning. 'The Return would not
hesitation. cost so much labour as it must have required in the
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Lord CASTLEREAGH acknowledged, in the year 1780. There it was to go back to the year 1705.
Most flattering manner, the services 6f the. Gallant His motion should only be for the Offices creeated
Officer, but he was of opinion, that it was * .matter. 'Mee the year 1780. If it should be deemed incon-
of great delicacy and difficulty, and therefore that the lenient, however, to make the motion to-morrow, he
House should be cautious how it indulged its feeling should renew it for some other day.
of applause and approbation. The fact was; the ser- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
vice oas not performed in the British, btrt in the Pot- said, he should have no objection to it, for his part.
tuguese army ; certainly great praise was due for his HOME STAFF.
ereri:,ns in forming a corps there which performed Colonel WARDLE asked,if the Noble Lord (Palmerston) was
Many gallant achievements ; still the liroule should resolved to move the Home Staff to-morrow ? He did not %lo-
be careful to place a limit to its rewards, and ere a derstand that the papers on this subject were yet printed.
Lord PALMERSTON hoped they would be ready to-mor-
.
dignity to those already conferred, by bestowing them
sow morning. They were extremely short, and might be soon
as the reward of greater services. He was sure Sir perused.
Robert Wilson himself would be the last person to The SPEAKER said, a printed copy of these papers bad just
draw any personal satisfaction from the sacrifice the been put into his hand.—Adjourned.
Louse should make were this measure pursued., He
said the united feeling of this Home was the warmest
aProbation of thegallantry of the Hononrable Officer,
and concluded by hoping, the Honourable Member
would withdraw his motion.
Sir JAMES HALL said, to his mind the circum-
stance touched on by the Noble Lord as an idcllattal,
.reason for not concurring in the t Motion, *A.
:mg from Sir Robert 'Kitson's not being actually in the
'Tice of this country at the time, operated the other
way. It might be an a for a departure from
the usual forms of the PaH:gYuse. Such a proceeding
aught hare the effect of rousing the spirits of men
•Com whom much might be expected. If the.
Hon.
,;;I:nve,r chose to persevere, he should, at letst' n°l
a single.
Colonel HUTCHINSON felt gratified at the tie-
nations nn.de on all hands, as to the merits of his
dart friend. As, therefore, he could not get the
:sus:, to go with him all the length• he wished, he
..ntent to take what he could get; and should,
let3o.
m• ••
ug,ree to withdraw a motion. Withdrawn.
TaeT SCHF.LI)T INQUIRY.
CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
li.zgested that it
Irmight be convenient the Noble
.ord (Porchester
would give the. House Some pre
'm
',us intim •
n
k. on 0 the view in which. he purpOsed
gup the oinestion arising at* of the Inquiry.—
le did rat observe the Noble Loid present to-night,
ped some of his friends wcioishiev4 the good-
elu
to -- . ntion this to him, thatthe might to-morrow
Your the
iestio
he House with some idea of .1-14.= nature of the
h yr_ was to submit for their; ccirtsiderition.
init"i,...ae,swered that the Noble Lord proposed
)iicy
~tietlii:utr different Resolutions—one on the
spedition—another on the propriety
:he Retention ' of Wakheren ; a third Declaratory
tilt facts as they appeared in evidence ; and the

THE INQUIRY.

Nos. 18, 19, and 20, of the Minutes of the Evidence
before the House of Commons, upon the inquiry into
the Expedition to the Scheldt, have been printed. It
is impossible to give, at present, more than a mere
sketch of their contents. No. 18, which closes the
evidence, contains the testimony of
DANIEL WOODRIPT, Esq. Captain in his Majesty's Navy.
Lieutenant General the Earl of Ressty N.
Lieutenant General Sir JOHN HOPE. •
Lieutenant General BROWNIIGG.
Rear Admiral Sir itICHARD KEATS.
E. W. C. R. OWEN, Esq. Captain of his Majesty's ship the Clyde
Lord Viscount CASTLLIZAGH.
'Lieutenant Colonel °merits,.
Lieutenant Colonel PILKINOTON.
JOHN WEBE, Esq. Inspector of Hospitals.
WILLIAM LIDDERDAEE, Esq.
Captain Sir HOME POPHAM.

The Earl of ROSSLYN stated, that he would prefer
going up the river, to marching across SOuth Beve-
land.—Great inconvenience, he said, was felt in that
Island from want of specie, the issue to the army
being in notcs•not negotiable.
Sir JouN Horse conceived, that marching across
South Beveland would be attended with great delay,
labour and loss.
Lieutenant-General BROWNRIGG'S evidence related
principally to the plan of attack upon Walcheren.—
He thought that .the army might have been before
Antwerp, with all the necessary: means of bombard-
ment, on the Bth of August.
Admiral KEATS thought it would have been atten-
ded with loss, to have proceeded to Antwerp, with-
out having reduced Lille and Liefkenshoek.
Lieutenant-Colonel Ogrzszy declated) that there

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