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ships ; or when its ten ful ; sod that the Committee hoped Mitt the bad
ible principle should, as he! spirit which had been so industriously diffused would
hoped it would, be again discussed. But he would .
grade fly pass away, and that some eves of those
now conclude by impressing on their Lordships, that who had •
peen engaged in deluding the people would
on their conduct in this business depended the dia•
awake_ to a sense of the criminality of their conduct.
ratter of their Lcrdships, the character of the Minis.
nut that the Committee would deceive the House if
ters, nay, the character of the injured Oliver himself. they did not state that the most vigilant exertions of
( A laugh, and loud cries of hear, hear)—for against the
Magimutes would be necessary to check the ef-
him as well as against the unfortunate complainants, foraids of of those
.who are still engaged in polluting the
whose petitions lay scorned and unheeded upon their mn the tower orders ; and that the aid of all
table, would this Bill of Indemnity block up all the
persons ought to be extended to counteract the effect
avenues of legal redress--(//ear, hear.) He should of those licentious publications which are still poured
oppose the bill in every stage, forth with an unexampled profusion. That in adver-
Tee question was then loudly called for, and the House di-
un .
to
Tided upon the question that the bill be read a second time. The gthe state of the metropolis, the Committee was
numbers were—Contents, so ; Proxies, 44—100.--Non-Con- sorry to be obliged to state that a small number of in-
tents, 15; Proxies, is. 53—blajoriti 67.--. Adjourned. fatuated individuals continued still active in endea-
HOUSE OF COMMONS. vouring to excite insurrection and tooverturn the Go-
Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a Petition from the Lord vernment and Constitution, with the desigkt of sub-
Mayor, Aldermen, and Livery of Lst
ondon, praying that a rict .
sututing some Revolutionary form of Government.—
inquiry might be instituted into theconduct of Ms Majesty's Mi-
nisters, with respect to the Suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act, That they had however the satisfaction to observe,
and that such inquiry might be made by a Committee, composed that the efforts of these individuals had not of late
of persons who had neither places nor pensions under Govern- been attended with much success, and that the num.
anent. They also prayed, that no Bill of Indemnity toMinisters,
her of their proselytes had not increased. That the
on account of their proceedings du ing theStil 'on of the Ha-
beas Corpus Act, might be allowed to pass. The lion. Alderman cessation of that distress under which the lower or-
said, he thought it his duty to state, that the Hall at which this dens had so severely suffered, and the employment of
Petition was agreed to was one of the most numerous And most a great proportion of those who had been exposed to
respectably atiendel at which he had ever been present; and
..
e greatest privations, had prevented in a great de-
that very few hands were held up aping the question
that the redden be read, gree the efforts of those persons from being success-
Sir W. CURTIS rose and said—" All that I have to say, Sir, ful. That the Committee had much satisfaction in
is, that I attended the Hall at which this Petition was agreed to, stating, that no person of any rank or influence in
and that I disapprove of every word in that Petitiou."—(Hme .1) Lee community countenanced the designs of these
The Petition was then read and ordered to lie on the table and
to be printed. men. That eager as those individuals were in the
The Simmers of the City of London presented a Petition pursuit of their designs, and capable as their decla-
from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the ration chewed them of perpetrating the greatest atro-
City of London against Mock Auctions—!testis and ordered to
cities, still the Committee saw no reason to think that
lk on the table. the vigilance of the Police and of the Government
Mr. Alderman ATKINS made some observations on the nu-
frauds committed by tarsal of muck auctions, and pres- would not be sufficient to repress their efforts by means
wed the necessity of a Bill being passed for the purpose of putting of the existing laws. 'Oat the attention of the Com-
an end to them. Ile hoped that his Majestys 'Ministers would mittee had bean nextdirected to the proceedings against
support a Bill for this purpose, and that it would not be lost as it
had been in the last S.,ssioa those persons detained under the Suspension. Act.—
L L;S lIIN TO N was not aware that Ministers intended That they had examined the charges on which every
to propose any measure on the subject. one of those persons had been committed, and they
Zr.A HAM NGTON presented a Petition from the Attornies found that they had in every instance been substan-
of Leicester, praying, that uneducated and unqualified Persons .
might not be allowed to practice as Conveyancers..—Read, and cuter" IVOR oath. That it was the opinion of the
ordered to Ile on the table. Committee that the powers entrusted to Government
The Bill to pn.vent the sale of Game was brought in, and by the Act alluded to, hai in every case been exer-
read a first time. cised with a wise discretion ; and, that if they had not
been
Mr. GRENFELT, wished to know what course It was in-
put in force to such an ertent, the safety of the
tended to pursue with respect to this Bill, as several Hon. Gels-
Semen were interested in it who must he unavoidably absent for country was likely to be very seriously endangered,
some days. Ile therefore hoped the Bill would not be hurried and the projects of the disaffected to have been rea-
through the House. lized. That it appeared, that of 37 persons detained
Mr. GEORGE BANK F,S said, that he wished that fun time
~,oadention of the MIL l e was been
warrants on suspicion of high treason, one had
should be allowed for the interested in it must be absent and been discharged on the 4th of July ; another a few
aware that many Members
engaged for some time by the Assizes or County business, and days after ; 10 on the 12th of November; 22 at vale-
ta: therefore would fix the second reading for the loth of April. oats times previous to the commencement of the pre-
The Bill was then ordered to be read a second time on the
lOth of April. sent year ; three on the 20th of January ; and one
REPORT OP TIIE SECRET commie-res. died in prison. That the Committee had no reason
Mr.l3. BATHuusT brought up the Report of the to doubt that the detention of those persons was go-
verned by the same sound discretion which had been
Secret Committee appointed to examine the Sealed
Papers presented to the House by command of his exercised in their apprehension. That, upon the whole,
Royal Highness the Prince Regent. The Report,
they were of opinion that Government had, in the ex-
which was then ordered to be read by the Clerk, was
ecution of the powers vested in them, acted with the
in substance as follows :—That the Committee pro-
utmost lenity and moderatic n.
ceeded to the examination of the papers referred to On the motion that the Report do lie on the table,
them by the House: That their first object in the Mr. TIERNEY wished to know whether the Corn-
examination of those papers was to obtain such in- mittee bad availed itself of the power of examining
form nion as would enable them to form a correct persons. He also wished to know what course the
oainion es to the internal state of the country during Noble Lord meant to pursue with respect to the Re-
ese period that elapsed between the last Report of port, and whether it was intended to fix a day for
the former Committee, and the preeent time: That taking it into consideration.
it Appeared that the insurrection which broke out in Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that with respect to
l)etbyshire, on the 9th of June, wILS the latest open the first question of the Right Hon. Gentleman, it
attempt made by the conspirators to carry into effect, was a very unusual one to be put, as it respected the
by absolute force, their desperate designs: That the proceedings of the Secret Committee • and there-
proceedings adopted to thwart that attempt had hap- fore he should make no reply to it. With respect to
pity been so effectual, that the projects of the insur- the second question, it was not his intention to fix
gents had been thereby entirely disconcerted, the any day for taking the Report into consideration, not
confidence of their adherents shaken, and their fur- having to propose to the House any measure founded
ther designs defeated or delayed : That the seppres- upon it.—On the questionthat the Report be printed,
sion of this insurrection, the apprehension of many Mr. TIERNEY said he was very much puzzled to
of the leaders of the conspiracy, who were after- know why this Report should be printed. It was
wards brought to trial for High Treason, and the net to be taken into consideration ; why then have it
detention of niany of the agitators under the Act printed? The torch was, it was all a jumble of non-
of the last Session, had frustrated all further at- sense—(Loud cries of Hear !
.front the Opposition.)
tempts at open violence. Still that it appeared, All that had been foretold long ago would be the
from the language which was continued to be contents of this Report, was now found to be embo-
held among the disaffected, that they considered died in it. Who was the author of this valuable do-
their revolutionary projects as being only preven- cument he did not know—(!rear, hear.)—lt only con-
ted for the tittle, and as being not the less certain tamed the old history of the Derby trials ; and its
of success, notwithstanding their being delayed.— whole drift was to give a thorough white-washing to
That at the trials which took place at Derby in Octo- his Majesty's Ministers—(hear, hear.)—His own opi-
ber of persons concerned in the insurrection, twenty- nions were not in the smallest degree shaken by any
three were convicted of high treason, or pleaded thing in this Report. Was he to be satisfied with
guilty; and against the other twelve the Law OHS- the conduct of Ministers, because it was now to be
cers of the Crown declined bringing forward any .said in print that the powers which had been con-
evidence ; that the result of these trials had the effect ferred upon them were well exercised ? Who made
of striking terror into the minds of the disaffected, this Report? It was made by Ministers and the
while the lenity manifested towards the greater por- Members of the former Committees—(Hear, hear.)
tion of the criminals was gratefully felt by the un- And how could they have made a different Report
fortunate individuals themselves : that, subsequently from that which had been just read, seeing they were
to these trials, the spirit of disaffection had been gra- the very persons interested ? Was it to be expected
dually subsiding: that in the course of the autumn, they would say any thing against themselves? The
the decline in the price of provisions, and the in- sum of all they said was this—that there had been
increase of wages, with the growing demand for an insurrection in Derbyshire, and that there was no
labour, had. by removing the distresses and privs- saying what might have happened if certain measures
tions of the lower orders, contributed very much to had not been adopted. And yet by arresting those
preserve them from the artifices of the agitators, by upon Sunday, who it was ascertained were to rise on
removing the dissatisfaction which existed during the the Monday, the whole insurrection might probably
period of distress, while the lower orders were depri- have been prevented. But if they had been arrested
ved of the usual means of earning their subsistence: then, there would have been no insurrection—and if
that the Committee saw fresh cause to be convinced there had been no insurrection, there would have
of the statement in the first Report of the Commit- been no Report; that was the whole secret.—
tees of last year, which represented the general good No man could hear this Report with a grave face.
disposition of the people at large ; and that they must But the most extraordinary thing of the whole was,
in particular bear testimony to the exemplary con- that it did not lead to any measure whatsoever. The
duct of the inhabitants of those pats of the country truth was, that it did lead to a measure which the
where the insurrection had broken out, and through Noble Lord did not dare to avow, namely, the Bill
which the insurgents had directed their course: that of Indemnity. For his own part, he did not believe
the Committee had no doubt that the extent and re- one word of the Report: it was only the evidence of
sou' ces of the conspirators were magnified by their one party in is own favour, while the other was not
leaders, whose obvious policy it was to propagate allowed to be heard. The papers contained in the
such a delusion ; but that it was impossible to calcu- bag brought to the House related to the state of the
late to what extent they might have spread,eas nu- country. Those papers were referred to a Committee.
memos opportunities would have occurred of se- The most natural question of every member of that
ducing persons into the support of their cause, who Committee, when it met, would be—" What am I
might not be at all aware of the atrocity of their de- here for ?" The answer to this would be, that he
signs: that the Committee were therefore of opinion was there for the purpose of making out that the for-
that it was the duty of Government and of the Ma- mer Committees were right. Did the Noble Lord
gistracy not only to provide the means of resisting then think that any man would believe such a Re-
the projects of those persons when they should break port, so framed? The table was covered with peti-
out into open violence, but also to attack the danger tions, praying that inquiry might be made into the
in its origin by putting an end to the efforts of conduct of It inisters. No inquiry at all was made.
those who were employed in deluding the people To call the proceedings of this Committee an inquiry
into a participation in their nefarious designs:— was a farce. The result of those proceedings was
this foolish Report, which, after all, was not to be
That the effect produced by the measures which had
been adopted foe this purpose had been very success- taken into consideration. Why then was it produced ?

The Noble Lord dare not say it was for the p
of having a Bill of Indemnity. Without that, there
could be no purpose in appointing a Committee: it
would have been a proceeding, to use a common
phrase, without head or tail. The truth was, that
Ministers felt that there was a caseprietafacie against
themselves, and, that they dared not face the House
for a Bill of Indemnity without some voucher, and
this Report was the voucher which they produced.
* Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that the Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman seemed to wish to do that now
which he was sure-the House was not disposed to do
,'
—namely, to go into a discussion of the Report on
the reading of it by the Clerk. The Right Hon.
Gentleman asked if any measure was intended to be
founded on the Report? To this question he had
already made a reply ; but if the Right Honourable
Gentleman was net satisfied, it was perfectly open to
him to submit to the House any motion founded opon
the Report. But the Right Hon. Gentleman took
occasion to endeavour to create afeeling in the House,
that the Report was quite illusory. In such an attempt
the Right Hon. Gentleman had already failed to pro-
duce an effect upon the House or the Country; and
he would venture to prophecy, that the Right Hon.
Gentleman would not now succeed in deluding the
country so far as to make it be believed that no danger
had ever existed. At to the Report, although he did
not mean to name any day for taking it into consi-
deration, it was probable that on an early day there
might be occasion to enter into a discussion upon the
subject. As to the insinuation of the Right lion.
Gentleman, that the opinion of the Committee was
the opinion of Ministers, the Right Hon. Gentleman,
knew too well how the Committees of both Houses
had been constituted, to think there was any just
ground for such an insinuation. (Hear, hear, hear.)
It was a sufficient ground for appointing this Com-
mittee, that the House and the country should know
what had been the extent of the danger—above all,
that the moral part of the country and the Magis-
tracy might be made aware of the growing evil,
which it would require their utmost talents to sup-
press. His Majesty s Ministers, when the danger was
threatening, met it with vigorous measures ; and
when the more imminent danger subsided, they sub-
mitted their conduct to investigation. Notwithstand-
ing the discountenance of this investigation by the
Right Hon. Gentleman, its result was, that the Com-
mittee thought that the conduct of Government had
been lenient, moderate, and wise! and such; he was
sure, would be the opinion of the House and the
country !—(llear, hear, hear.)
Mr. BROUGHAM could not but think that the
Noble Lord, who knew so accurately what would be
the feelings of the House and of the Country, might
have thrown himself upon the House and the Coun-
try without seeking the protection of a Secret Com-
mittee—(Hear, hear, from the Opposition ).
Mr. B. BATHURT said, that the argument of the

the Speaker do late Ms warrant to the Clerk of the
make out a new *tit for itssitffsdnpeon, in the neon,
Henry Rose, Esq. who since his election has accePt
of Clak at Parliament.—Tke Illation was are,'
Ir. (; RES FELL made scene observation, u„
Rank-notes ; and contended that the sonou-t in
from the month of July lest down to the pre4ent
ceedod, according to his calculation, from two to ttu
the amount at any former period slice the liEik
took place. The Honoarable Gentleman went int,
ther calculations, to spew that sal millions of the. Pall
were continued in the Hank, av tilable for th,. pahl
and it was for the Committee to say what steps they
after sack statement.

Mr. MANNING expressed his ;wisest that the
Gentleman should, on the question Fir Voting the
fer to the concerns of the Bank. lie wound him,
was no desire, on the part cf the Corporation, to
issues of paper beyond former periods, with a view I
tiir JOH N NE WPORT contended, that the Hon
was correct in bringing the subj, ct forward in a Co
Supply.—The Committee was then ordered to sit oat
to which day the Army Estimates were adjourned.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
that he would on Monday move for leave to bring
relieve Persons collecting Taxes from the Penalties
consequence of taking Bank Tokens; intending, t!
ihotikl operate for twelve months. The object will,
view was to call these tokens out of circulatieo.

Mr. Glt ENFELL observed, that the lank, in
had not derived any benefit from thu issue of tome
calling them in they could be no losers.

Mr. MANNING confirmed this opinion, and st,
loss had been very considerable.
General THORNTON thought benefit seou',l
throughout the country by con:lnning the i;stu:ot li.u►
Adjourned till Monday.

THE EVENING STAR

LONDON.

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and Learned Gentleman relative in the compo-
Isition of the Committee was not borne out by facts.
It was not true that only one of the Members from
the other side of the House had attended that Com-
mittee. As to the necessity of the Committee being
secret, the answer to what was said about having
the Committee an open one was plain, as the case
required secrecy. The persons who gave their evi-
dence were induced to do so under a promise of se-
crecy—and there was only the option between obtain-
ing the evidence and breaking that promise.
Sir W. BURROUGHS hoped it would be stated
whether any persons had, been examined before the
Committee. If no answer was given to this question,
he would move that the Committee be instrusted to re-
port whether or not they had examined any witnesses.
Lod FOLKESTONE said he had examined the
precedents respecting Bills of Indemnity, and he
would challenge the Nohle Lord opposite to produce
any instance of any Bill similar to that now proposed
except in the case of 1801.
The Report was then ordered to be printed.
Mr. BROUGHAM observed, that it was strange
there was no mention of the Spencean Plan in this
Report. Was it that this t plan had died away?
lor was it that it was alluded in that part of the

Iteport which related to the designs of some persons
n London

Sir W. BURROUGHS moved that the Committee
should be instructed •to report whether they had ex-
amined any witnesses.
_ _ _

The SPEAKER said the motion could not be en-
tertained, as the Committee having made its Report,
now ceased to exist. The Honourable Gentleman
might move for the. appointment of a new Commit-

tee.--The motion was of course abandoned.
On the motion of Lord CASTLEREAGH it was
ordered, that the Sealed Papers, laid before the House
and examined-by the Committee, should be returned
under seal to the Secretary of State for the Home
Department.______ _ _ . _ _

Cord PAI.3IERSTON, on moving the Order of the Day
fur the Committee of Supply, to which the Army Estimates
were to be referred, said, that as the Finance Report, to which
many Members might wish to refer, was not generally delivered
yet, he was willing, if it was the desire of the House, to post-
pone the Army Estimates till Monday, but lie could not put
them off to a later day, as it was necessary to pass the Mutiny
Bill before the Easter recess.
Lord FOLKESTONE took this opportunity of observing that
altheugh the German Legion, pursuant to Act of Parliament,
had ceased to be in the British service from the end of sit
months after the conclusion of peace, pet there were the names
of many German General Officers still in the Army List. He
wished to know the reason of this.
Lord PALMERSTON said he could only an Aver generally,l
that at the exriration of the .Ict by which the German Legion
was employed in the British service, all Officers attached to it.
had returned to Germany. But there had been some British
Officers to that Legion. who were continued in their rank ; but
none were continued who were not natural born subjects. A
doubt had arisen whether some of them were aliens, and had
been settled by the Law Officers of the Crown.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY wished to know whether it was the in-

tension of any Honourable Member on the other side of the
house to move for a new Writ for the Borough of Southampton
in the room of Mr. G. H. Rose?

Mr. STURGES BOURNE said, that a new Writ wont.'
have been moved for, but that Mr. Ruse had not yet been sworn
into his office, nor had he done any act in disclurging the duties
of it, although he had accepted the office.
Mr. BROUGHAM said he took it, that Mr. Rose, not being
sworn in, and not having done any act in executing the duties
of his office, was very wide of the question which the House
should consider.

Mr. S. BOURNE said he had looked into the cases open the
subject, and he found that a seat in the House was not con,i-
dertd as vacated till the person accepting an office under the
Crown was sworn in.—( Cries rf More, move ! ,"—lt was perfectly
indifferent to the Member in question whether the Writ was
moved for now, or after he had taken the oaths of his office.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY observed, that in the present case the
name et the Member in question was in the patent. There
a recent case, in which the new writ had been mused for intim.-
' diately on the tact being accepted. He therefore moved, that

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 425, 1
THE FUNDS.
PRICE OW STOCKS Testa DAY AT TWELVE,.
Reduced 80;—Cons. 79il—Cnns. for A
4 per Cent. 9914—Navy Annuities
India Bonds 95 97 pr.—Exchequer Bills
Yesterday was settling day in the Stock Etch:
immense speculatibn Consol account. From the siu
market we had hoped that every thing would go
being recorded by a failure. Two def.ii.ltrrs, how,
this morning declared on the opening of the nazrket
very respectable jobber in the Exchequer market, of
ing credit, from whom a very good dividecd
the other a Broker of, we believe, not more than tw,
standing, who, in order to get rid of an immense
supplied the Commissioners of the Siuking F.,nd w,
of their stock. and afterwards sold about 160,000 ti
The account settled at about 79 to 79 and a qu
morning the market is somewhat better, being
money, and 79 5-4ths 7-9ths for the April account.

Last night the Bill of Indemnity was read
time in the House of Lords. No new poi
elicited by the discussion, of which we has
full Report in its proper place.
The Report of the Secret Committee of
of Commons was presented by Mr. BATH
is shorter than that of the Lords Commi
more emphatic in speaking of the past an
dispositions of the populace, and snore discs
in treating of the state of disaffection in tl
and in the metropolis. It notices in one pi
exaggerations made by Spies.—No Male
except the usual one, " that the Report di
the table," so that only a slight discussion

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