Star.
London, England, 1819-03-06 00:00:00

CALPDONIAN CANAL

Mr. A RBUTFINOT moved that a sum, not exceed-
ing 50,000/. be granted towards defraying the expenses
of the inland Navigation to the Western Sea, from
Inverness to Fort William. This subject excited con-
siderable attention in that House some time ago,
when it was referred to the consideration of a Com-.
mittee, by whom it was reported to be a work of
great national advantage and importance, and advis-
able to be carried on. Ile did not know in what light
thellouse would consider it, nor could he pretend
to offer an opinion upon it ; but he was authorised
to say, that should the House agree to the grant, only
27,000/. more -would be requisite to complete it—
(A laugh.)
Mr. KENNET observed, that ever since he had
been in that House, he had always observed, that
when a very large and liberal sum was granted for
:t specified purpose, it was invariably followed by a
second application, nearly to the extent of the for-
mer. In the present case, he really could not consent
to so lavish a grant of the public money, for what
he considered an idle, profitless, and useless expendi-
ture. He saw no object that was to be achieved, even
sltculd the. House ac- ede to th:lt motion, but the trans,
port of stone, and the passage of a few boats, for the
purpose of amazing the Scottish peasantry.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT was not desirous to offer any
opinion upon it : he had not himself made the estimate.
On the question being put,
Mr. BANKS thought the grounds of this claim
should be clearly defined.. It appeared that upwards
of £70,000 were still wanting for the completion of
this work.

Mr. LAMRTON rove to order.• He apprehended
that as the question had been already put, the regular
and parliamentary course was to piocceed imme-
diately to a divivion.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sug-
gested, that it would be better to put this question to
the vote of a fuller House.

Sir W. BURROUGHS was of opinion that the
•House could not hesitate to proceed, after the ques-
tion had been pat. He appealed to the Honourable
Member on the bench below him, whether such was
not the established usage of Parliament? It was the
undoubted and only regular course of proceeding,
that no Member should speak to the question after
it had been once put—(lleer, hear.)
Mr. BANKES declared, that in speaking after the
question had been put by the Chairman, he had no
wish or intention to infringe upon the customs or ob-
servances of the House. He had considered the ques-
tion as having been simply proposed by the Honour-
able Member.

Mr. BROGDEN acknowledged, that not being
aware that the House would at all go into the ques-
tion, he had sa proposed it as stated- by the Honour-
able Gentleman.

The Gallery wai then cleared, but no division took
place, the Motion having been withdrawn.
Oa our re-admission, we found Mr. BROODEN on
his legs, and replying to some observltions made as
to the manner of putting the question by Mr. l'unnEs.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER oh-
servei, that from the hurry of proceedings, some ir-
regularity, more or less, might sometimes occur;
but he did not doubt that Parliament would always
adopt the regular course on these occasions.
Mr. FORBES and Mr. BROODER mutually explained.
A grant of 1.74,932 was then moved, for the ex-
penses of finding, maintaining, and providing for
Convicts in" Great Britain.

Mr. BENNET objected, however, to the grant
generally, as being exorbitant.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT perfectly concurred in all that
had fallen from the Honourable Gentleman, but he
must be permitted to say, that the amount of this,
grant was £ll,lOO less than that of last year, which,
amounted to £89,000. If the lion. Gentleman was
anxious to set the details of that Estimate, he should
be very happy to furnish him with the Account.
Mr. BENNET had observed, among others, a
very large sum, stated to be for the expenses of fit-
ting up a single ship for the reception of convicts.—
He thqught this demanded some inquiry'.
Mr.. Alderman WOOD could not help consider-
ing the estimate of these expenses as altogether enor-
mous ; and he must call the serious attention of the
Cominittee to one circumstance particularly. There
appeared to be an allowance, carried to the account
as a credit, of Is. 6d. a-head to labourers, and of
Cs. 6d. a-head to artificers, • Now it was impossible
that this could really be so: It *as impossible that
these wages were to be paid to convicts, as the value
of their labour. They might dig a few holes, or as-
sist in building a wall ; but was it intended to put
iihis amount of labour in competition with the allow-
ance ? That allowance amounted to a very large sum.
He trusted the Committee would go into the matter.
' • Mr. CLIVE saidohat theallowance was not more
than two-thirds of what would be earned bp 'other
labourers. • . . . • .
Mr. Aldan WOOD wa& well aware that - tbs.
Han. Gentleman ought to be much better informal

vn the subject than he could pretnn.l to nr.; Lut
would adolit the force of hi,; reasonialy, if he cow
produce a certificate from any comperei,7
to the value of their labour bci:tg equal
charged for.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT had ro douht that
Friend behind him wou1:1 give all the inftirarit
required by the worthy Alderman.
Mr. CLIVE begged' to state, thatanumbeTv,.l.
vict labourers were lately pat to a woik at S! ....,..
which they were allotted one month to romp!etti,
they did it a few days short of that time—(//,...;
The motion was then agreed to, as wren ti
lowing grants:
£4,777 for Expenses atte niiiirg the ronf:n^".•?rt of
Lunatics, fos 1819 ; the time to be paid witl:tut
tion wits:never.
xi,ouo for Expenses incurred by Prosccuthr- ft: d 6:
Coin of these Kirvloins.
Eso,cco kr the Ekt..r.ses of Ltw Charges for t 1::.• cr.::
1.'3,000 in Aid of the Nejor.2l Vaccine Institutioo.

17f:,000 fer Expetni;:s of Printir.,•• the Acts of 6,4 C-:,.„(
Pa-Jan: tot, is order to he distributed to all , 4
Justices, and to c•her Officers o: the Law thouty!.o..:
United Kindom ; aLo fur the Expenses of P
Proelamatious.
£2...:00 for Expenies of rrlnting the Votes cf the l!st,ed
Comm( ni. durio •he present Bessie sof l'itriimacat.
£149 9s. for the H:licieney in the Grant made in isi lT
Printing 1,750 Copies of the 524 Volume of the I rt.
of the House of Commons.
X 11,000 fur the A rarri can
.I,6y.a!ists.

£251 10s. for defraying the Allowances for Compernem-h
Salaries, and Stiperannnations to retired Clerk. of tits LA.
tery-office for 1819.
£2,444 for the same Allowances to retired Clerks of the (lax
of the Commissioners for Auditing Public Acceu.,t,
X 990 for similar Allowances to retired efacrri o, the Malt.
£266 13s. 4d. for the same purpows to retit.•‘! ('leaks •!I e
Office for Payment of Exchequer llils, all fur :lie current

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