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a quarrel with Baron Onapfedi; wID On kite the origin of that
quarrel?
The LORD CHANCBLIAnt said, the vitiation ought not
to be put.
Did any fact come to your knowledge of a circumstance that
occurred at the residence of the Princess, which occasioned your
quarrel with Ompteda ?—By the confession of a servant. I
aw the servant on his knees, begging pardon for bh crime.
What was the name of that servant?
The LORD CHANCELLOR said the last answer that bad
been given by the witness, which shewed that he did not know
the circumstance of his own knowledge, what the servant had
stated, was not evidence.
The Marquis of DOWNSIIIRE.—Before whom was that
servant kneeling, and what was his name?—He was kneeling be-
fore the Princess of Wales. His name was Maurice Crede.
Lord LAUDERDALE said, that as the witness only
knew the fact through the servant, he much doubted whether
the question and answer ought to be allowed to remain on the
minutes.
Earl GREY was in favour of the question. All that the
witness had stated was, that their: was a servant making confes-
sion of his crime on his knees ; and that the name of that scr-
eam was Maurice Crede. There was nothing of the nature of
that confession stated by the witness.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE contended that, if the qua.
tion was coupled with the answer, it would be clear to every
Noble Lord that the circumstances stated in the question came
to the knowledge of the witness by the confession of a servant.
Lord HOLLAND said, he hoped their Lordships would ab-
stain from the practice of referring to questions and answers
which had been already passed, for the purpose of having them
erased, and make the objections when the subject appeared to
be such as should not be entertained. The practice would
add to the already intolerable length of the proceedings.
After some further conversation, which it was extremely dif-
ficult to collect, the discussion ended without having produced
any effect upon the question. There were loud cries of" Go on."
The Marquis of DOWNSH IRE—With whom did Maurice
Credo live—whose servant was he?—The servant of her Royal
Highness the Princess of Wales.
Was it in consequence of anything that was said by her Royal
Highness that you called Ompteda out?
Lord L A UDERDA LE objected to the question.
The LORD CHANCELLOR observed, that the cause of
his calling out Baron Ompteda had nothing to do with the ques-
tion before the House.
The Marquis of DOWNSHIRE.-1 consider that I hale a
right to put this question.
The LORD CH INCELLOR.—I should be guilty of a
neglect of my duty, if I did not declare that the question cannot
be put.
Lord LIVERPOOL said, he hoped their Lerdships would
alhere to the rule of placing restrictions upon themselves.
They would get into a sea of difficukies, if they insisted upon
the liberty of putting every question they chose to witnesses.
Lord GREY said, their Lordships had agreed to abide by
the practice of the Courts below, as far as was practicable. He
believed that, in conformity with that rule, it would be neces-
sary to withdraw the question, as he believed it could not, under
such circumstances, be put by the House.
The Marquis of Dowsortea withdrew the question.
The Marquis of DO W SSE' llt E.—Where dues Maurice
Crede now live ?-1 do sun know but from hearsay.
'fu the best of your belief?—
The Arrottrar-Goittrat. objected to the question. -.-
Do you know whether he lives in this country 7-1 have heard
ler is in England.
Do you know with whom?—No; I have not heard.
Did hlajocchi ever mention the name of Ompteda to you?—
I perfectly recollect, at Rome, mentioning to Majocchi her
Royal Highness's commands, that none of her Royal Highness's
servants should offer any insult to, or molest Ompteda. I never
had any conversation with the lower servants upon the subject,
and consequently be did not take the liberty of speaking to me.
Did Majocchi ever mention Ompteda's name to you?—l do
not recollect.
When you saw the man on his knees to her Royal Ingham,
what did her Royal Highness reply ?—She forgave him.
Do you recollect the words she used ?—.! do not recollect.
Lord GIUNTHAM.—You said you had seen Boland and
her Royal Highness walking arm in arm together; have you
seen them do so at the villa D'Este 7—l do not recollect having
seen them walk at that particular time.
Do you positively recollect not having seen them walk arm
in arm, when Bergami was a Courier do not recollect
' their having walked so when Bergami was a Courier.
Lord HOOD.—Did Ompteda dine at the Princess's table at
Milan?—l think he did.
Did he at Como ?—Yes.
Did he at the Villa Villani?—Yes.
Did Majocchi wait at the Princess's table at those places ?
He did.
The Duke of ATHOL—Yon said you thought it necessary,
when her Royal Highness was sleeping on deck, that she should
have a male domestic near her : did you express that sentiment
to the Princess herself?—l never did.
In giving the reasons for thinking it was not degrading to her
Royal Highness to have Bergami sleeping under the tent, you
said there was nothing mysterious in it : did you, when you
[mind the hatchways closed while she was in the tent, think
there was any mystery in that?—The tent being closed, I under-
stood her Royal Highness to have retired to rest. I did not con-
sider any mystery whatever in that.
Was Bergand in the teat then ?—I do not know.
Do you know that he was not in the tent d=l do not.
I think you have already spoken as to Bergami's sleeping in
the tent—(Criss of " No, no!")—As to your believing that he
slept in the tent. Have you any reas for supposing that he
was not in the tent when it was cled 7-1 never thought
about it.
You said you never represented to her Royal Highness the
necessity of her having a male attendant to deep on deck ; did
you consider it necessary far the male domestic to sleep within
the tent?—l Dever represented the one or the other.
Did you think it necessary that a male domestic should sleep
within the tent ?-1 never thought of the thing at all. Probably,
if nobody bad been under the tent, I should have taken no no-
tice ; I thought it necessary within myself.
Was it for her Royal Highness's safety you thought it neces:
nary ?.-Her Royal Highness thought so, I did not think otherwise.
What danger was there to be apprehended on board the po-
hcca7—l don't know of any inur.ediate danger that was to be
apprehended.
Ten, when you say that you think it was right that* male
attendant on the Princess of Wales should sleep under the tent,
it is not in consequence of any danger having been apprehended ?
Mr. Beoorinen begged to observe, that the witness had not
said, that there was no danger to be apprehended. He said
that there was no immediate danger to be apprehended.
The Duke of ATHOL directed the short-hand:writer to
read the witness's last answer.
Mr. Gurney read it, and it being found to correspond with
Mr. Bacreenest's statement, his Grace dropped the question he
had just put.
Was there, in point of fact, any danger 7-1 don't know of
any immediate danger; nut personal danger. If I had thought
that. I should not have been easy myself to have slept below.
Was there any danger sufficient to induce you to recommend
that a r..ale attendant should sleep under the tent ?-1 never did
recommend that one should.
By Lord It ADNOR.—You have said that at Carlsrube her
Royal highness dined with the Grand Duke, except on one
eccarion when she dined with the ?durgravine • did you dine
with her Royal Highness on these occasions ?—I 'did.
You have said that her Royal Highness also supped with the
Duke and Nlargravint. Did you sup too along with her I—l did.
At what hour did they dine?-1 cannot precisely recollect; it
was Lte iii th. evening, I think.
nave you any recollection of the lateness of the hours of the
eveaMg patties at that Court?—l think they broke up about
twelve o clock.
Do you know whether her Royal Highness bad time to re-
tan home between the dinner and supper?-1 should imagine
I'll,: bad.
ll.d. she, to your knowledge, on any one of these occasion%
r'lLr" lm ho between the dinner and aupper I—ldo not recollect.
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you
undertake to say she did not ?—I will undertake to
us it I don't recollect. If I had the smallest tecollection of
it, I could have no motive for keeping it back.
By Lord 1 ).1 It LI N TO N.- -Did you ever see Bergami
tae leave of her Royal I lighness in a way different from other
persons have seen hint take leave more than Once, and never
Saw any differeuce from the way in which every person did.
During the king muunivation which you have undergone, you
have onto used the words, that her Royal Highness slept under
the tent. Do you mean that she slept, in the ordinary accep-
tattoo of that word, with her clothes off ?—I do not b.slieve that
hei 'loyal Highness ever took her clothes off while on booth the