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DEAL, MAY 13.

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The nest wiu probably sail about the 27th inawsa.
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MINUTES OF EVIDENCE, APRIL 114.
The Right Hon. Mary Countess of Berkeley was
called in, and a chair being placed for her, her La-
dyship came to the table and was farther examined
as follows 3
Was there any distinction made in the family or
any difference in the treatment of the children born
before the second marriage, and those born after.,
wards ?—None whatever.
Was there any difference in respect of the keeping
of the birth day of the claimant ?—The birth day of
the eldest son of the first marriage was always kept.
Perhaps your Ladyship can enable the House to
form some judgrtient of the time before which you
went constantly 'by the name of Miss Tudor ?—I
think I dropped the name of Miss Tudor about a
year after the second marriage.
And at that same period did Lord Dursley first
take the name of Lord Dursley ?—Not quite imme-
diately.
Is it to be understood that prior to about a year
after the second marriage neither your Ladyship nor
the claimant ever went the one by the title of Lady
'Berkeley, or the other by the title of Lord Dursley
Not strictly so,
How was it, then ?—Many persons wrote to me as
J..ady Berkeley, trades-persons and others, whom I
cannot immediately recollect.
But did the gentry and persons who visited Lord
Berkeley address your Ladyship by any other deno-
mination prior to the period you have mentioned than
that of Miss Tudor ?—I should think some did, but
I cannot answer the question more directly,
Did your Ladyship ever take the name of Tudor
Ipriot to the marriage with Lord Berkeley ?--No, I
do not think I was ever called Miss Tudor till after
my marriage with Lord Berkeley.
Your Ladyship's maiden name prior to that was
Miss Mary Cole ?—Yes.
I Where was your Ladyship living immediately
prior to the first marriage in March, 1785 had a
judging in Mount-street, or South street, 1j calm();
exactly recollect in which of those streets.
How long had your Ladyship lodged there
I cannot at this distant period say how long.
Was it as much as three months ?—No, I think not,
Two ?—I cannot recollect.
Though your. Ladyship may not recollect how
long you had been in those lodgings, you may be able
to recollect where you had been immediately before
you were in those lodgings ?—Does the question mean
where I had resided ? I had been
,at a relation's, but
I had always a lodging in one or other of those two
streets. What relation ?=At a sister's.
Of what name ?—Mrs. Turher.,
Where ?—ae had a house in Charles-street, Ben:
keley-square.

Atthe time that your Ladyship.sas living with
her ?—I do not know whether I could be reckoned

strictly to be living with her, as I had•always at that
time a lodging.
Your Ladyship lodged at the place you have men-
tioned, and took your meals, and lived in other re-
spects with your sister, Mrs. Turner cannot at
this distant period answer that question farther than
I have already done.
how long had your Ladyship been living with
your sister in the way you have described prior to
March, 1785 ?—I went to London at the end of Der
cember, 1784, or the month of January, 1785.
And from that time immediately went to live with
your sister, having the lodgings you have described ?
Yes, having the lodgings I have described.
Your Ladyship has stated that the marriage took
place on the 30th of March, 1785 ?—Yes.
At Berkeley ?—Yes.
How long had your Ladyship been at Berkeley be-
fore the marriage took place ?—I arrived at Newport
the night before.
Alone, or with any person ?—Alone.
From whence did your Ladyship come immedi-
ately ?—From London.
From what part of London ?—From Mount-street
or South-street.
One or other of those places of ycur Ladyship's
lodgings ?—Yes.
Was Lord Berkeley in London when your Lady-
ship left London, or did he go to Berkeley before your
Ladyship ?—I met him at Berkeley ; he was in the
church when I arrived there.
How long prior to that had you seen him ?—I can-
not answer that question.
Was it a week, a month, two months, or three
months before ?—lt was not long, but I cannot dis-
tinctly say how long.
Will your Ladyship have the goodness to state,
whether by ,4 not long," you are to be understood it
was not a month before, or two months, or three
months, or a week ?—I think I had seen Lord Ber-
keley within a week or a fortnight, but I cannot an-
swer that positively upon my oath.
You had seen him in London ?—Yes.
Does your Ladyship know how soon after you hail
seen him in London,. Lord Berkeley went into the
country ?—No, I do not know.
How long had your Ladyship been acquainted
with Lord Berkeley ?—Ever since I was a girlat school.
Where did your Ladyship first become acquainted
with Lord Berkeley ?—At Mrs. Clark's boarding,
school, in Gloucester.
In what year ?—I cannot answer that question, .
Perhaps your Ladyship may be able to recollect
how long before the marriage ; or the circumstance
of your own age may enable you to state about what
time ?—No, I cannot state about what time.
Does your Ladyship recollect how old you were
at that time ?—I do not at this moment recollect.
Did the acquaintance continue from the time of
Lord Berkeley seeing your Ladyship at the boarding-
school to the time of the marriage ?—lt did.
During that interval was your Ladyship visited by
Lord Berkeley ?—Oftener than I wished to be.
Where ?—I 'cannot at this period answer.
At what place was it ?—Many years have passed,
and I cannot mere distinctly answer that question.
Was it in Gloucester, in London, at Berkeley, or.
where ?—Wherever I was, Lord Berkeley found me
out, or followed me.
Does your Ladyship mean to say that Lord Ber-
keley was in the habit of visiting your Ladyship
while you were at Gloucester ?—I left Gloucester to
avoid him;
At what house will your. Ladyship have the good-
/fess to state, Lork Berkelej came to visit you before.

you yt Gloucester to avoi
I recollect to have seen hi

the hoyse of Mr. l'aiker,

regiment.
Excepting that place, your Ladyship never remem-
bers to have seen Lord Berkeley visiting you at any
place in Gloucester ?—I have seen him constantly,
but I cannot answer the question more distinctly
on my oath.
At what house in• Gloucester bad Lard Berkeley
been in the habit of visiting your Ladyship, before
your Ladyship left Gloucester ? —There are ways of
pursuing a Lady without visiting her at any particu-
lar house.
Am I to understand Lord Berkeley did not come
to. the house where your Ladyship was visiting du-
ring the time you were at Gloucester do of
think he did at that period; I kft Gloucester k
good in the beginning of the year 1784.
To what place did your Ladyship go when you
went from Gloucester, for good, at that period
Iwent into Kent.
Did your Ladyship' continue in Kent from that
time, to the end of December, 1784 ?—Yes, l did.
' During that interval was jour Ladyship in the ha.
bit of at all coming to Londcm in—Never.
'Your Ladyship was then under thoroof of a Lady
of the name of Foote ?—I was,
During the whole time, from the time of your La-
i dyship's leaving Gloucester, which was in the month
of March, 1784, till the month of December 1784
7llu Yesr.ing the whole of that time your Ladyship is
' understood to have been in Kent, aad never to harp .
been at all in London ?—No, never.
i How often during that interval, from March to
December, did Lord Berkeley, if at all, come Otto
Kent to see your Ladyship ?—Once.
When ?—Either in September or October, boefly
cannot exactly say which.
a Where did your Ladyship see him ?•t-sitt•a 'Man
lcalled Lenham, or some such Nay, about,two milt*
from the place where I resided.
! How came your Ladyship to meet Lord Berkelex •
at that village ?—I feel a difficulty.in answering that
' question.
It is understood your Ladyship left Gloucester, fofi
the purpose of avoiding Lord Berkeley ?—I did.
Did your Ladyship go accidentally to this v -
loge, or on purpose to meet Lord Belkeley 2-1 went
on purpose.
Then, except that time, your Ladyship did not sets
Lord Berkeley during the whole time you were' itt
Kent ?—I corresponded with him.
Has your Ladyship got any of the letters ?-resyvs z
Not one ?—No.
But your Ladyship never saw Lord Berkeley per,
validly during that interval but that one time ?—I do
not recollect at this distant period of time that I did,
but it is a long time ago.
I Your Ladyship has said you saw Lord Berkeley'
about a week or a fortnight prior to thp 30th of
March, whets your Ladyship was married, that was
the last time your Ladyship bad seen Lord Berkeley
immediately before the marriage ?—I think I , said
so, but I desire not to be tied dormtoopartifittarly
to rime.
Prior to that week or fortnight, pr whatever it
might be, and subsequent to the end of December,
when your Ladyship came up from Kent ; can
your Ladyship recollect whether you had hemp in the
-habit of seeing Lord Berkeley frequently ?•—I had
been in the ?iabit of seeing Lord Berkeley freltrently,
taut I cannot say how frequently.
Was yaar Ladyship in his company in the pre-
sence of any person your Ladyship can name.—Not
I do not think I was. .
Is there no one person now living who had ever
seen your Ladyship in the company of Lord Berke
,ley prior to that time ?—I do not recollect at this, dis-
tant period that there is.
About what time in the morning or day was it, that
the•marri;ge took place ?-1 think, as well as I cap
recollect, drat it was between the hours of eight and
nine in the morning, but I desire not to tie myself
down too distinctly to the hour.
From the time of the marriage, which was in March,
1785, did your Ladyship live with Lord Berkeley re-
gularly ?—No.
Where, then, did your Ladyship live after the mar.
riage had taken place ?—I had a lodging in George-
street, Hanover-square.
Did your Ladyship immediately after that marri•
age come to that lodging in George-street iianover-
square ?—The first two days after my mr i age, I
think I went to Kpw, and to Hampton Court, with
my husband ; after that I think i went to George-
street: I have some faint idea that I might have gone
to Mount-street or perhaps South-street.
It is understood that after the mart iagp had taken
place, you came up to London ?—I did.
How long did your Ladyship continue to live in
London ?-1 went for the summer, 1785, to Glou-
cester, I believe in May, but am not clime clear.
From the month of March, 178,5, to May), ..17841
your Ladyship was constantly. in Looilop
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constantly.
Where, then, if' not in London ?—I wa witl; pry
husband in the neighbourhood of Kew 11
ai and fmPlO
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Court. • • .•••• • .
Not at any place of residence that-Lord Berkeley
bad ?—No, not till after I seamed from Gloucester
in 1785.
But in point of fact, wherever it was, either at
Kew, Hampton Court, or London, your Ladyship
was, immediately from the marriage, constantly; liv-
ing with your husband ?—No, I did not say sot on
the contrary, I was very ill, and we did not live much
together.
At what time was your Ladyship very ill
continued very unwell for three months after I was
married.
At what place had your Ladyship that illness?—l
was ill immediately alter I was married, and I was
ill at Gloucester alter I was married. And before I
went to Gloucester 1 was ill in London.
Your Ladyship is understood to say, that you were
taken ill soon after the marriage, and whilst you were
in London i—Yes. •
Was your Ladyship attended by any medical per-
son in London ?—Yes.
By whom ?—I cannot recollect at this period, so
many years have elapsed. .
Was it by one person or more than one ?—I was
attended by one.
Was it
-au apothepar7, or a ph7Acian ? I cannot
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Does your Li,lyship recollect at what pnicil it was,
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..tyship May remember whether the state, that that brother first took the itasne of Tudor ?—lt
of your health was so bad as to require the daily at- was the Litter end of 1784, or the beginning of 1785 ;
tendince of a medical person ?—I was unwell, but on 1 I know that when he was at Mr: Parker's, he always
that subject I cannot answer more fully. ! signed his narnt.Tudor in Mr. Parker's day-book.
If the state of yriur Ladyship's health was such as At what tithe did he first go to Mr. Parker's ?—I
to produce a temporary separation from Lord Berke- , think that I have already stated it to be thelatter end
ley, I presume it was such .as to require the constant of 1784 or the beginning of 178.:
daily attendance of a 'medical person ?—I cannot Prior to that time he always went by the name of
here give a more distinct answer to that question, but Wm. Cole ?—I cannot answer that question, because
I could give an answer to Doctor Denman, or any I was not in Gloucester.
person of that description, who would see me on the I Perhaps your Ladyship may know what name your
subject. own brother went by before that time ?—I always un-
The Counsel were directed to withdraw. dersteod that he was christened Tudor; I have heard
The Countess of Berkeley was directed to withdraw. so at a very early period before any unexpected change
The Counsel were again called in. ' took place.
The Countess of Berkeley was again called in, and t What circumstances induced your Ladyship to take
her Ladyship was informed, there was no imendon the name of Tudor ?—lt was my husband's pleasure.
to ask her as to the nature of the disorder, but, ' No other reason than that ?—My brother's name
Who was the medioal person who attended her being Tudor, I believe was the reason for it.
Ladyship in town 'from the time•of her marriage to Do you recollect any one person who ever called
the time of her go;ng,to Gloucester ? Ido nor know your Ladyship's brother Tudor before the marriage ?
the name of the medircal pefson, who attended'me'at —I was not with him for a year before the marriage.
that time, it wasn't Ittediol- person whpwas sent to. Had your Ladyship, prior to that, ever heard any
Had your Lady Weston, to call in any medi. person call him by the name of Tudor ; and, if so,
cal man when ru, ' oat Gloticester ? Yes.
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who was it ?-1 may have called him so myself, but
Whom ? Mr. NA .. .• , • Ido not recollect any other person who called him so
Is he livingyor dead? 'Hess dlit-ad. at this distant period of time.
Had you: Ladyship'bccatkai -for the attendanie of . Your Ladyship does not recollect any member of
any other medical person at Gloteesler ? ' No. , the. family, or any parson who had ever before called
At what place m Gloucester Aeas.your Ladyship him ley the name of Tudor ?—No, I do not recollect
attended by Mr. Parker ? My sister fllka house in ant ding about it.
Southgate-street, I think the name of iris) thestreet 'He was always called by the tame of Wm. Cole ?
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leAdin'Y to Berkeley. , —I cannot say that he was, I was not with him.
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'What sister was that ? Mrs. Farren. ' Hew came he to take up the nzme of Tudor in
How long did your Ladyship continue with that 1784 .?74 always understood that he had relations off
sister ? 'I was at Gloucester till August or Septem- the name of Tudor, and I remember once going to Mal.,-1
ber, as nearly as I can recollect, vein Hills to visit an aunt ; I had always understood ,
And continued during the whole of that time at from my eldest sister that there was soe relation of '
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the house of Mrs. Farren ? Yes. the name of Tudor but I cannot take upon me to
Was your Ladyship visited by Lord Berkeley ? 1 answer more distinctly.
saw Lord Berkeley in Gloucester during that period. Your Ladyship will have the goodness to state who
Hew often ? I cannot say how often. that aunt was ?—.I cannot state who that aunt was,
Irons the month of May to the month of August but I remember being taken to Malvern Hills when I
er September was three or four months ; during that was quite a child. ~ .
time is it to be understood, that Lord Berkeley visit- During the time Tod!. Ladyship was at Southgate-
ed your Ladyship at Mrs. Farren's house, had any street, at Mrs. Farren's, from the month of May to
tteals with you, or lived with you there ? No. the month of August or September following, does
Where was Lord Berkeley ? I was very unwell, your Ladyship remember being visited by any bar-
and cannot answer to where he was. sister there ?—Yes, I do.
How often or nearly as your Ladyship can recol- What was his name ?—Fendall.
lect during that interval from May to August or Was your Ladyship previously acquainted with
September may your Ladyship halo seen Lord Berke- him ? I cannot recollect whether I saw him once or
ley ? I saw him several times, but I cannot exactly twice. He drank tea once er twice at my sister's.
say how often. Had your Ladyship ever been acquainted with him
Did your Ladyship see him ten times during that prior to the time of Ids coming to drink tea with you ?
interval ? At the distance of six or seven and twenty -4 cannot recollect whether I had or not, or whether
years, I cannot answer upon my oath as to how many my sister had met him or not.
times I saw him.. Did he come alone, or with any other Gentleman ?
Can your Ladyship recollect the name of any one —I think he came alime.
person who saw Lord Berkeley in company with your Did he repeat his visits ?—I think he was there
Ladyship at either of these houses ?—I do not think twice, as far as I recollect.
there is any person now living. who did see Lord Not oftener ?—No, Ido not think it was oftener.
'n In' ',orni- at either of those houses, And your Ladyship had prior to that time no ac,
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Berkeley in my ct_ Ipany .
except my brother, who saw him once at the house quaintance with him at all ?—I do not think I had.
of Mr. Parker. Did your Ladyship ever correspond with him ?—I
Tour Ladyship means Mr. Tudor ?—Yes. wrote one letter to him.
Was Mr. Tudor living at Gloucester when your Where ?—He went the circuit, and wrote to me.
Ladyship saw him there ?—He was living at Mr. HAS your Ladyship R copy of that letter ?—No ;
Parker's. but I should like to read to the House of Lords, a
A lodger at Mr. Parker's ?—He was to have been letter which I wrote to a friend of his to shew him,
brought up as a surgeon ; and he was living then six months ago, in consequence of his having taken
with Mr. Parker to learn his profession as a surgeon. great liberties in representing the transactions, because
And he sew your Ladyship once with Lord Berke- lam sure no blame or spot whatever can be attached
ley at Mr. Parker's ?—Ycs, I think he did. to my character.
Can your Ladyship recollect any person who saw Your Ladyship recollects having written one letter
Lord Berkel4 from May to August or September, to him ?—Yes ; I did ; and if it could be produced,
1785, at Mrs. Farren's house ?—I cannot recollect that would at once clear up the whole thing, without
any one. When he was there care was taken that no- my producing the letter to which I have now alluded.
body saw him. Your Ladyship never sent, through the medium of
Had your Ladyship at that time any servant at- any person, to desire to have your letter delivered up
tendant upon you ?—I had my sister's servant. The to you ?—No ; but I beard Mr. Fendall had talked on
house was in fact mine, because I paid the rent of it. the subject by insinuation, and not speaking out, that
Mrs. Farren is dead ?—She is. he knew a great deal of Lady Berkeley, and I wrote
Is she servant who attended Mrs. Farren living ? a letter to Mr. Westfaling, stating the transaction,
I do not know, indeed, which letter was put into Mr. Fendall's hands, and he
By what. name did your Ladyship gn, while you sent his compliments back to me, and that he knew
were at that house ?—I think by my own name. I; no more of the circumstances of thz marriage than
think that persons who knew me called me Miss Cole.l what I stated in the letter.
Was your Ladyship's sister unacquainted with the I Then her Ladyship requested to know whether the
marriage ?—While I was in Gloucester my sister was . letter she had mentioned might be read.
unacquainted with the marriage. Mr. Attorney• General submitted it was not admit
Was your Ladyship's mother acquainted with the Bible ; but left it to the decision of the House.
marriage?—Not at that time. Her Ladyship was informed, that in point of form
When was she acquainted with it ?—ln 1786, so the letter could not now be read.
far as I recollect; but lam not speaking positively Your Ladyship spoke of being acquainted with
that she had a knowledge of it at that time. Lord Berkeley when you were at Mrs. Clark's school,
Was your Ladyship living with your mother at was Lord Berkeley living. in Gloucester at the time
the time it'was settled that there was to be a mar-i you speak of being acquainted with him, at the time
• riage ?—No. I your Ladyship was at school ?—I do not know if he
'Where was your Ladyship's mother then living.? was then living at Gloucester.
—tri Gloucester, I believe. I was in Kent when, it 1 Was not your Ladyship sufficiently acquainted with
was settled that I was to be married ; and my mother Lord Berkeley to know where he lived ?—No ; I was
was then in Gloucester. I avoiding him by all means in my power.
Where was Mr. Tudor living at the time it was , Atter your Ladyship went to London, in the month•
communicated to him that there was to be this mar.; of August or September, 1783, where did you go
riage npon the :30th of March, 1785 ?—lf he was not to ?—I had a lodging in Geo ge-street, Hanover-
with Mr. Parker, he must have been living with his
square.
id
D your Ladyship continue to live there for some
sister, Mrs. Farren, at that time.'
Does your Ladyship know who communicated it , time ?—I remained there while my house in Park-
to him that there was to be this marriage on the 30th : street was preparing for my reception ; and in the be-
d' March, 178.5 ?—Yes,- 1 did it myself, by letter. ginning of 1786 I went to that house.
Does your Ladyship recollect in what month it ' From the beginning of 1786, to December, 1786,
'R as that you communicated that circumstance to Mr. where did your Ladyship live in London ?—in Park-
TuJor t—When I wrote to him, it was flied on what 4 street.
d tyilhe bans should be published, because I wasl All the time ?—Yes ; unless I went to Cranford,
-anxious that he should go over to Berkeley to bear which I do not at this time recollect ; I know that I
tlierifpublislied. • did at times go to Cranford from London.
-How old was your Ladyship's brother it the time - .
. is .it to be understood that your Ladyship, after
he was made the confident of this secret ?—I cannot
your return to London in August or September,
'each'; but itihay be easily known. 1785,
lived alone, in lodgings provided by Lord
About the age of sixteenl—l do not know exactly i
Berkeley, until the birth of your eldest son ? —Lord
.at this moment, but I think it may be about the age
yi Berkely had a house in Grafton-street, but I think I
- 'mentioned. • • 1 may say 1 lived alone ;I do not mean to say Lord
Was he she only'persun of -the faty. •to whorn •
.inanla ? Berkeley did not visit me during
.that time.
Ire& Ladyship totsd...,._____" • the intend age INo female lived with your Ladyship ?—No female
--Certainly. heed with me certainly.
Your Ladyship bad it tit tin* two sisters and a I Does your Ladyship recollect how you went up to
mother living ?—Yes. London in August or September, 1785 ?—No ; I do
Why did your Ladyship prefer toinive as a witness not recollect.
of this marriage your brother, a boy At 16,rather than I ,
Was it in the stage ?—I rather think it was.
one of your sisters or your mother ? etaOsel. thought
Does your Ladyship recollect being met by a per.
B.
I do uld best depend upon my brother. •
ter at the Gloucester Coffee-house when you arrived ?
Whe 1 n
did your brother lease the otiuntry, and go
—No, I do not remember having been met by a por-
abroad ?—I 11,:nk the beginning of 1787, as nearly as
Icas
recollect, it was after the birth of my oldest son. ter at the Gloucester Coffee-house.

Y6u'r Ladyship may I