Star.
London, England, 1817-05-20 00:00:00

susrrssios OF VIP HABRA% CORPUS.

Sir M.-W. RIDLEY—foie to ask the Noble Lord
opposite • (Lord Castlereagh) when he proposed to
name the Secret CoironittLT on the state of the name

Lard CASTLEREAGH replied, tl:at the Com-
mittee was to be _appointed imined,ately after rite
holidays.

_ .
Mr. TIERNEY raid, the CAmmittee, he supposed,
was to be appointed that day fortnight, na fr- the
purpose of inquiry, bin in order to frighten them.
Lord CAS I'LEREAGIi admitted, that it was,
in the judgment of his Majesty's Ministers, necessary
to continue the Suvension of the Habeas Corpus
Act beyond the period at present limited : they were
convinced that the state of the couotry was such as
ici render it not safe to dispense with that mode of
en;uring the public security; at the same time the
House, it they did not tind good grounds for such a
judgment, were not to give effect to the intention of
Ministers. •

Mr. TIERNEY. supposed that either something
very terrible had been • discovered by Ministers, or
something very. terrible was to be discover,..l.by them
'oetore the 2d of June—(licar, Itsar)—since their re-
solution upon ;he subject seemed so decided.
Yh M. Id* 11.11)1= asked whether the Conunk-
tee was to be appointed by motion or by ballot t
Lord MILTON. said, he. had heard. it reported
that the House was. to adjourn during the Whitsuo
holidays tor a longer period than usual ; he wished
to knew if there was Jay intuition of this kind ?
Lord CASTLERFAGH said, that the only ques-
tion was, whether the 'House should meet en Wed-
tseaday.or Friday -aennight ? Thursday (the 29th)
was a holiday, and if, in consequence nt that cit.'
eumstance, the House did not meet again on Wed-
fesday, the adjournment should be till Friday.
LOTTERY FILL.
vile Order of the Day for the third reading of this
Dill being read,
Mr. orrrEuroN said, that none of the objec-
tion* to this Bill were removed; it was quite unchan-
ged even in its most offensive pasts. It was so bad
in its principle, and so objectionable in all its branches,
that the Houstmust feel ashamed of it, and consi-
der themselves bound in • honour .to reject it. He
theretore.moved that it be read a third time this day
six months.

Mr. %VILBERFORCE could not allow that op-
portunity to pass without beating his teitimony against
the Bill. The bad principle and the injurious effects
of Lottery Bills were always perceived. and denoun-
ced by the wise and good. The aversion to their
cootinuaoce had of late made great progr.•ss. The
higher classes reprobated them, and the lower classes
were beginning to see their ruinous tendency. They
were nut productive of much benefit to the State, and
they were most injurious. to the morals and industry
of the people. He therefore hoped the Honuur,ble
Gentleman below ( Mr. Ly t telt on ) who had signalized
himself by his opposition to those measures, would
soon be finally successful.
• The Honourable J. W. WARD agreed with the
Honourable Gentleman that Lottery Bills were must
injurious to morals, and at the same time were not
good financial measures ; yet he. thought the bill
should pass at this time, for this main, because bone
of the Honourable Gentlemen on the other side had
pointed out any other mode of raising the money
which the L9ttery supplied-J(4 laugh).— Gentlemen
might Laugh, but. he considered a deficiency in the
revenue a great evil, and. the deficiency created by
rejecting this Bill would be 5e500,000.
Lord AIiCH.IBALD HAMILTON said he had
been fully convinced 011ie insufficiency and injurious
effects of such Bills by the argument of the Honour-
'Able Gentleman (Mr. Ward) on a former occasion.
Those arguments Isere forcible and. unanswerable.—
They were this night to consider of a compensation
to the Crown ft* sinecure offices. Why should not
that compensation embrace the Lottery Bill? Surely
it was more essentially necessary to protect the mo.
rals of the people than to give a compensation to the
Crown ter sinecure pLices. The arguments of those
who went for the Bill were, therefore, of no force,.
atheavin truth, expediency, or naceisity.
4.410r* jeAtiCOL, GILENFELL said. the Lottery
Main produce one-half the sum alleged by the Ho.
tiontaida- Oval's:Ban on the obtPrzajdo.,. . ,
Mr. TIERNEY said there could rioficalty
.in supplyspg any &Stingy occasioned .by rejecting
the 1311/....Theltiiht Hoagptitilotkiitliptatt
.• •

.. .

I'

VE V - PENCE.

site find no difl::-:tv in mak•fite the krom and
expenditere met by Exchequer bills —( .1 lout/84—*
Navy bills and debentures were issued at two Month,
and two ri ,nths wiz!.ort .ny interest. and &cheque,
bills from 9.d. to ltd. The Chancellor iit the Ex.
chequer could ea.ily, therefore. supply the deflcienef
of the Lottery.
Mr WARD .•2tAa'ned, that it was the deep iodise
view of the finances held not In the Ri •ht Honour.
able Ganth•nati 'Oniselt that had induced him 10
e insider the deficiency a ereat evil.
The House then divi.ted. Fur the Bill, 79.0
Against i.., IS —Majority,'2s.
On our re admission, we found Mr. Neon! tantsra
rut. adverting to the chute in th- Lottery Bill by
which the Bank Director. were entitled to a reatime•
ration for the manattement of the money paid by the
Lottery Contractors. The Honnuable Member ob.
served. that after repeated and ineffectual efforts to
obtain the attention of his ‘l.4'esty's Government to
the nature of the public dealiii.!: with the Bank of
England. he was now coMpell.d to take that subject
up piedemeal. and tq lose no opportunity of expost.ng
its pr4digality. When this subject was' before the
1 ' Ho :se on a former evening. the amount paid to the
Doti: fur nustiagilig the Lottery money was stn'-d to
, lie Z1(100 —he now found that it amounted to k3OOO.
That sum might be ctinsidered 'trifling, camp 'red
with the many enormous sums taken by the Bank
I frnm the public I. but, small as it comp rattvely was.
lit was stilla striking link in that chain to Bank rap:.
city aid Ministerial- pro anon.. Whatever might be
i
i• Inv opinion within the walls of that House, he knew
that there was but tine voice in th.- country respect.
i;:g that unprincipled system, and !Ix necessity of its
speedy correction. In the year ktite.i. as was illus-
-1 trated in the Report of the Finance Committee. of
i which his llonouraSie Priced (Mr. Canker.) belay"
I i:iin was Chairman. the Bank drew no less a eani
thin •EGOO.UtlOAyearly in its dealings with the public.
Not saiisfioneith such iinmenbe profits. they rectiaed
between Je4o,o(Krag4l. 4,50,000 tor receiving a pore
tion of the Income Tax, while for receiving the in.
stilmetits of the various loans which the public sera
vice tequired, a demand was further made of halt-a.
crown in every hundred pound, amounting in the
aggregate to halt a million. Yet afar all, the trifling
trouble of receiving the instalments from the Lottery
Contractors, vi0u..113,:t be taken by that Corporation
' without a charge to th'e public of three thousand
pounds. He thought, therefore, the present a propel,
opportunity of expuriginz,, the clause from the Bill by
which that remuneration was granted, and coneladel
with a motion to that effect.. '

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
assured the Honourable, tieottemani -that it he could
propose during the nest Setston'of Parliament a more
economical annle of managing the Lottery than the
133..itian at present pursoeJ, he would attend to 'the
suggiaition ; but he'helieved7it would be ibleto
have that measure effected 'at a lets erpente to the
puulie. In that acrianted'state of the bill it watioo
Jan, for any expesTment: =
The Mut.oil of Mi. Ontsett.t *al then negatived
without a diilisititi; • ' •' •

On the questiiirr as tri the title of the' 1111. . •
Mi. LY CTLETON..moved; as-an amendment,
that the words of the Statue ot Kiag William
be pretiied, via. this was a 8.11 to-ed.:WOW*
Lords CoMmissioners:bf the TO.ASUf y tisseisisrmficato
of money, by setting.up certain mischievous gamilsl
called Lotteries, against the common good, trade,
and commerce of the I ingdom—(4 laugh.)
Sir JOHN NEWPORT observed, that it was the
principle of our ancestors not to allow revenue to
stand against public morals. The reverse was the
practice of the present day ; for, in the estimation of
the Right Honourable the Chancellor of the Exchee
quer, the murals of the people went to nothing whets
revenue was site object.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
raid, the Act of King Wil!iam adverted only to Psi.
vale Lotteties.

Mr. LER NARD MORELAND conteededs.that
the words of the Stattite were Private Lotteries and
ail tubers. It went further—it declared them to be
i common and public nuitatites. That was the law
even at-the present hour, although it was evaded bj
th,:se attoual licences. Indeed, as the law thew stood,
.:if persons concerned guy way in planning and die.
outing Lotteries were declared to be common rogues
—(4 knit through the !low ) •
Mr. BROUGHAM sup.,okted to the Cliancelltir
of the I.::xLhetier the pr..pii:Ay of a chute of indem- •
pity for his contractors, as probably, under the provia
jolts t.l the Act of Wait in,, same dangerous orperi.
thetas might be tried against ad the p'aritesConcertled
—(4 laugh.) It would be an appcsite title tor 'lbe•
present bait, to describe it, an Act for the more don).
plete encouragement of vice and immorality, parti.
cularly among the lower classes of the people.
Mr. GRENFELL trusted, that it the country
should again have such a Bill inflicted on it, the ma-
nagement would be transferred to the Exchequer.
The Motion of Mr. Lvirt.aroh was then nega.
and, and the Bill passed..
ABOLITION OF SINECURES.
Mr. GILLILKT moved the second reaaing of the
Bill for Alsalislimg the Offices of Just cos in Eyre.
Mr. tiOS WELL opposed the Bill, and expressed
his unwillingness to strip the Crown of the rneantrof
rewarding public services. That public services
rei7ilTto junta! must be-admitiedy every
vacs the opinion of the Finance
ought
Committee,
to b e
is
reflecung man, sglio considered the subject. There
might be a difference- of . opinion on the in.inner in
which those rewards shout) be ck..nle:red, bur in the
propriety of granting them, none ovoid be entertain-
ed. Weak as be was himself, hit ideas on thts.sub.
.ject were mooned by the authriri.y ct that great
champion of 'retrenchment, Mr. Burke. (Vista- 4e,
brought hispidin 1764 be did nbt fool!: to "
those sweeping measures which' wete POW Content.
plated. He would go unlit'. back, so the' year 1780.
In. his speech, delivt red at;,7that time, which was o

. SAM