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"ARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS: Mr. DUGL -owes/. .7 s- was the side df Adversity agaiii.
ha:dter into its --tit stioni,... 1-1 e Gentleman exulted at the , w
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ROUSE OF LORDS, MAY t. Mr.'GRENt '• 14 min,- could be borrowed;
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-c-%rt aga...u:e:d.--oen.
aßurt..neithe reve r3411y heard on the Scots Ca•iss " erant, M.P.; snore some day .4
. II
ay Pilirrs ;" after which, a:. i a g:uerat view of the quire into this su
4 Cintswata.qa move., 'by it e .lodgment of tits ....r
re .1. GRAHA '
'reversed, wt.% '. ,s,,s "veldt,. I accordingly.
Bank of England , -an must
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tht.e licicd in r i'' ,-. toe Stets Cause of " The •
And March z - .. rrl of Ileddington rod Counties were forg
the people will not t t• i
•ed again on tresday (Monday being the last
of England.--He des
tell at the Bar tha Cash Account of the
*Mao& Bridge for the last year.-Laid of feloniesand misdern
Mr. THOMPSON a iil A
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tortes' Bill was brought up from the the Honourable Baron, ; , 4 i
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Part. and others, and read the first old.
1. by a great countrl • ,
w Road and several Private Bills,
forged Notes offered to I'
d other Gentlemen.
l I" i Bill was returned from the Com- every week. Ire believe u k
, that House to the amendment garies through the count],
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ineeing read,
certain of their Lordships
thousands of pounds. Surd k
b for the Bank to change the , •
vanes his notice, and ha ~ then the, forged notes could I " I
ding Orders, Nos. i . , • but it was ie vainto
cs wino' se ad - 1 „ . i
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luntstanced "the Ens
as the Bank continued to go of II I. tr
tut the said Orders .be
their being dispensed this bungling manner. Ali tha
• the Bill in coercion. stance was to say, hang so many
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leeding. lie urged General THORNTON, havin -
'vet that the con-
e te be affected
Lion of the House to this subject VA
lied fee farther not let this opportunity pass by w , i
as anAmend- his hope that immediate steps wool
word" that," medy the evil complained of in the
to the Con- Petition ought not to be lightly treats •
ich was put .-1
pie of Birmingham weregood judges c
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could be Sir J. MACINTOSH said, if •the i
11 who Honourable Friend (Mr. Tierney) for a (
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e/ed in inquire into the affairs of the Bank, w ,
e be-
ta nately negatived this evening, he should it e
of the night, give notice of a motion fo. I, .
'y mittee on the subject. •
The Petition was then brought up and re;
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Clerk. It stated, among other particulars, th
eniencies arising from the imperfect engra
' Bank of England notes, and that the best
old be employed for the purpose, so as to r
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ties extremely difficult, and prevent such
s trials, executions, &c. .r-- 1
•••.d GASCOYNE was of opinion that a f. ;
'd be given for exchanging old notes I r
ihich means .it would by much easier t
good notes from forgeries than
.it nov '
ent this was almost impossible, from the . .
;n which the notes frequently were.—
lated
in the county of Lancaster were " 'I
nk of England. These, by passing s
4,„ became at length so dirty and d:
oistst impossible to distinguish the CI
otes. wo,
t 4 1111
qred in the propriety of an ea- que: .
of 11,
a laid oat the Table, and or- lased, -
rested t ' • •
ant. tomed ' ii
ANCELLOR of the EX- there w,
of the day for the third of it. 1 • ' /If. 't
to him w I,:
,s not his intention to up his mit
because hb should could not , ~ ' I
• into every branch because he A ) 1
, 'y objected to the concerned i i P
to the Bank of Bank Restric
"or the present, would not ly.i lip 1
i allowance ;he must maim i . •
'r million on having deceive, ~
'his was the they were about,
I made to to receive cash it ',i •
lilts. The ments for this pu.
10,8001. of the Legislature
'ills, a 'stated, that at the
have. resume their payme 1 .
'hat assurance on the I, i
part, that the agrees
•• But now all this was to 1
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' By the House. They . 4
public creditor ; and wi
her there were any mea, •
cure the Right Honour
It most,unfairly by the
knew he was speaking
ntlemen, the greater i ..
at the Bill. He woul.
year 1816, after th: • 1'
Restriction for one . t
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to continue it for tw
time was necessar,
- the payments ; nc 1 ,
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foreign relations d i .
'ord time to the
rations as in thci I. I
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'hem to resume i ' 1/
nserted to show t
living time to ti.
le Preamble of
e same as the 1,
*ter). Nosh '
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lake the Clerk 1 '
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extraordinar, •
'Nefore made t ' '
Alt of the gut
'le the Bank
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or of the Ea I i
not—(Las,
as it rely ' ~ 1..
measure s
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v not say
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PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS qtr. DUGDAIS hoped the House would take this
Id sites' into its most serious Consideration.
HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY I. Mr..GRENVELL :a;ci, that it Wss his intention to
Comae: teen r.sdly heard on the Scots Gyve " erant, M.P. move wine day next week for a Committee to in-
s. Cams b-iteoPethrrs ;" after which, U 4 a itclierAt view °` the quire into this subject
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case, the Loki Onavcitt.s.qa Pflove., tbcgt the .iodgmtnt of the —r
.1. GRAHAM. 'asserted, that one half of the
Cc rsi Court berevcrocd, "a**etl accordingly.
Co
Bank of England notes in circulation in the Northern unsel vivo, tilt.t fic-ird in r toe Stets Cause of " The
Bari of Wimps and March z r I of Ileddington end Countics were forged ; and the consequence is, that
others." Te proceed again on tectday (Monday being the last the people will not take any J 1 the Notes of the Bank
day of Term.) of England.--He descanted on the dreadful number
Mr. Serra presented a: the Bar tha Cash Account of the
Commissioners of Richm.otid Bridge for the last year.—Laid of felonies and misdemeanors arising front this subject.l
upon the table. Mr. THOMPSON adied his testimony in proof of
The Couon 31anufactories' Bill was brought up from the the Honourable Baronet's assertions. He had been
Commons by Sir Roane Part. and others, and read the first told by a great country Banker, that he had thirty'
bine. As was the Glasgow Road and several Private Bills,
presentea by Mt. Sentsza and other Gentlemen. forged Notes offered to his house on the average,
The Nottingham Gas Light Bill was returned from the Com- every week. He believed he could say, that the for-
mons, with the acquiescence of that House to the amendment pries through the country amounted to ituntlreds r
aside by the Lords thereon. thousands of pounds. &with, ;.. ..--• • •
I The Order of the Day for taking certain of their Lordships
r the Ban'
Standing Orders into consideration, being read,
Bari BEAUCHAMP rose, pursuant to his notice, and ha then the.,
fag described the effect or the Staediag Orders Nos. I • but
Ml, which militated is seine spate mein* t e 3d
forthwith of a Bill sd particularly circumstanced as the Ewa
Brink Drainage Bill then was, moved that the said Order, le as
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taken into consideration, with a view to their being dispensed tr
with as far as related to the third reading of the 13111 in (Landon.
The Earl of ORFORD opposed the proceeding. lie urged
the peculiar importance of the Dill, and observed that the con-
sents of numerous proprietors who were liable to be affected
'ere still wanting. The subject, therefore, called fur farther
investigation; and so deeming it, he would move as an'Amend-
meat to the Noble, Earl's motion, to insert aster the word" that,"
a Committee be appointed to inquire with respect to the Con-
• sents which are still wanting.—On the question, which was put
in the original motion,
The Earl of HARDWICK contended that nothing could be
more unnecessary than the proposition, of the Noble Earl who
spoke List. Every necessary point had been duly canvassed in
the Committee. The Bill had been ten days in one instance be-
fore the Committee of the Commons, and sss days before theta
their Lordships. He felt it his duty to resist all farther delay.
The question being put that the Bill be read a third time, their
Lordships divided—Contents 24—Non-Contents s--Majority SS.
The Bill was accordingly read a third time.
Lord HOLLAND presented a Petition, the allegations of
which he said he could not vouch for, nor did he intend to found
any motion upon it, beyond its being laid upon the table. It-ce-
lated to certain proceedings before the Court of Chancery.
The Petition was then read. It appeared to be from
Doubleday and his wife,—(a lotsgli)—und John Dawson, ees.
plaining of alleged grievances suffered by them in consequeme
of the protraction of aunt, which was ten years in the Court
Chancery, that the grounds alleged against them were frauds.'
lent, and that the accumulated expenses had involved them In
poverty and want, &c. and praying such relief AS their Lord-
sh.ps in their wisdom may seem meet.
The LORD CHANCELLOR observed, he was certairly not
then aware of the existence of any such case before the Court,
bat assured their Lurdshipl be should cause due inquiry to be
made with respect to the situation and circumstances of it.
The Petition was laid upon the table.
Lord HOLLAND then presented a Petition from Thomas
IQhn Waters against the punishment of Death in cases. of For-
gery. The Petition stated, that the individuals convicted of for.
pry were not in general depraved, like those who committed
other crimes; that for the thost part it was the first offence of the
sufferer ; that man had no right to deprive his fellow-croantres
of life, &c. and concluded by praying that a law might besstac-
ted visiting forgery with a punishment less that death.
Earl GREY presented a Petition from the Tanners of the
City of Durham and its vicinity, against the continuance of the
Additional Duties on Leather. These documents were severally
laid upon the table.
Lord HOLLAND postponed his intended Motion respecting
the Shop Privately Stealing Bill, and stated he would give a
short notice for his bringing it on on a future day.
The Great Seal Pardons' Bill was brought up from the Cons-
mons by Sir JAME" GRAHAM and others, and read the first times
As were several private Bills presented by the same Member.
The Order fur taking into consideration certain of the Stand-
ing Orders which relate to the Sale or Exchange of Estates I.
Scotland, was, on the Motion of the Earl of LAUDZADALX, dis-
charged for the present.
The Bills upon the table being disposed of, their Lordships
Adjourned till Monday.

appeared, from the confession of the Right Honom-.
able Gentleman himself,
.that a great part of these
travellers had returned, in the proportion of 78,000
out of 90,000. It was material to bear in mind the •
grounds on which the original Order in Council lot
suspending payments in cash was issued:. It was pro-
posed by a Minister standing full as'high as the pre-
sent Chancellor of the Exchequer; although he as-
sured that Right Honourable Gentlenian that he had
the utmost respect for his sincerity and upright inten-
tions. Mr. Pitt thought 'it necessary not to propose
such an important legislative measure on his own as-
sertions of its necessity ; but he moved that a Corn:
mince be appointed to inquire into the circumstances
of the case, and whether such a measure ought to he
passed into a law. The present Chancellor of that
Exchequer, on the contrary, said, ,1 1 believe it td
be expedient, and therefore you ought to agree tA
it." Now it was material to look into the situation
in which we were at that time and the present. The
Bill of 1797 stated that great drains were mtsde on
the Bank, from nr.founded and exaggerated alarms,
in consequence of which the gold was withdrawn.
But now there was no wish to obtain gold to hoard,
there was no dread of invasion, no apprehensions of
the money being drawn out of the country for foreigtl
subsidies, no great armies to be maintained-at oar
expense abroad, nor any of those goings on, on
which it was stated the whole civilized world depen-
ded for existence. But the House should read the
Chancellor of the Eschequer's speech, and then they
would come to a thorough understanding of the
question at once—(Laughter). —But if the testimony
of the Chancellor of the Exchequer were to be of,
*Ned, he should object to it, because he was an intes
rested witness. His whole armagements were bot-
tomed on this system of paper money, and therefore
there was no man with a stronger prejudice in favour
of it. If he were to be examined, be should listen
to him with deference, but to say that he could make
up his mind on a mete speech of his, was what.he
could not do. He stood pledged to this measure,
because he was engaged in a loan, all the Gentlemen
concerned in which, must have believed that the
Bank Restriction Act was to be continued, or they
would not have come into his terms, and therefor*
he must maintain it, or be liable to the tharge of
having deceived them. Now let the House see what
they were about. The holder of Bank-notes expected
to receive cash in July ; he had made his rrrangei
ments for this purpose, and his security was an .Act -
of the Legislature, passed two years ago, which
stated, that at the end of that time the Bank should
resume their payments in .cash. There was also an
assurance on the Right Honourable Gentleman's
part, that the agreement would be complied with.
But now all this was to be done away; and by whom?
By the House. They must break their faith with the
public creditor ; and what he would ask was, whe-
ther there were any means to prevent it? He must
accuse the Right Honourable Gentleman of having
dealt most,unfairly by the House in this transaction:
He knew he was speaking in the hearing of a body.
of Gentlemen, the greater part of whom had never
looked at the Bill. He would therefore recur to facts.
—ln the year 1816, after the Legislature had conti.
nued the Restriction for one year more, a Bill was
brought in to continue it for two years, on the ground
that further time was necessary to enable the Bank
to prepare for the payments ; not because any thing
existed in our foreign relations that called for it, but
in order to afford time to the Bank Directors to
make such preparations as in their opinion were ne-
cessary to enable them to resume payments in caeh.
These words were inserted to shew that these was no
obstacle but that of giving time to the Bank to make
preparations. But the Preamble of the present Bill
was word for word the same as the last, every syl-
lable, every stop--( Laug) ter). Nothing would be
mere pleasant than to make the Clerk read it this
day ; and what was more extraordinary, the loans
and travellers which were before made the pretence
of its necessity, were now out of the question. So
the Bill was to be passed, while the Bank Directors
were ready to swear they were prepared to make
their payments, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer
continued to assert that they were not—( Laughter ).
This was a mere mockery. as far as it related to
assigning any reason why so strong a measure shculd
be adopted. If the Right Hon.Lientleman believed
there was a drain for foreign loans, why not say so?
Mrs Pitt did as much; but the Right Hon. Gentle.
man would have the House to yore this measure on
grounds distiact and separate from the real ones.—
Had the Bank Directors been examined on this goes-
tion ? Were they not ready to say. that they were
prepared to make their payments ? If they said they
were ready to pay, what answer could they give be
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, or how would they
refuse to vote ag.tipst him ? ad they made any
representations to him on the subject of thou foreign

HOUSE OP COMMONS.
A Petition was presented front Preston, praying for Univer•
sal Suffrag,.and Annual Parliaments.
On the motion of Mr. M. 4. TAYLOR; it was ordered
that a Plan of the Parish of Mary-la-Bonne, and the Books of
reference to the Inhabitants supplied with Water by the diffe.,
rent Companies, be deposited with the Clerk of the Peace for
the City of Westminster, before the 20th of May.
The Report on the Southwark Bridge Bill was brought up
and agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third tune on
Monday.
The Liffey and Shannon Canal Bill was read a third time and

passed.
Sir S. ROMILLY presented a petition from a person at
Wigton, complaining, that he had been confined since October
last in the Tolbooth at Wigton, and fined inot • for an offence
against the Distillery Laws, although the said laws authorized
only six months imprisonment.—:tead, and ordered to he on
the table, and to be printed.
The Committee on the Steam Boats' Bill was postponed till
Tuesday next.
Mr. 11. SUMNER wished to know why an Order made in
February last, for Returns of the Orphans' Fund and Bridge-
house Estates had not yet been presented?
Sir W. CURTIS attributed the delay to the time necessary
in making them out.
Mr. H. SUMNER replied, that he had reason to believe that
instructions had been given to the Common Council not to in 1
them be presented till as late a period as possible.
Alderman WOOD defended the Corporation, and said he
was sure they had given no such order. They had taken ti:r.e
to consider whether they ought to deliver their title dt.etia ; they
had been searching foil precedents, to see whether the 11.. 'e
could really require rich a delivery. The Accounts heir; for
five years, were very difficult to make out, bPing quite diffe-
rent from what were presented annually. The orates went in
the proper course to the Chamberlain, and there was no.doubt
that the Accounts were in forwardness.
Mr. 11. SUMNER said, he was more satisfied with what he
had heard from the Worthy Alderman than with what had fallen
from the Honourable Baronet. He should, however, feel it his
duty to move that these Accounts be forthwith presented.
The motion was then agreed to.

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DUTY ON COALS.
Mr. LITTLETON said, that a report having gone
abroad which had created considerable alarm in the
inland counties, be wished to ask the Right Hon.
Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Exchequer), whe-
ther there was any foundation for it? It was ru-
moured that he meant to repeal the duty on Coals
carried coastwise, and to lay it on the article at the
pit head.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could
assure the Hon. Gentleman, that it was far from his
intention to bring forward any such' measure.
TORO= sawn NOTES.
• fir C• MORDAUNT rote to present &Petition from
the inhabitants of Birmingham, praying the inter-
ference of the House to adopt some measure for pry
venting the many forgeries of Bank of Eaghtod