Star.
London, England, 1804-03-07 00:00:00

CITLON.

Mr. CRtVVEY faid, that he ►ad formerly even notice of his
Intent tun tomtit for the produel.cia of fume Paper. relative to the
lfland of Ceylon, but v. hi,:h motion, cwing to the intervention of
o•ber Important holm, h4tlteen delayed; he now rote for the
purred ut rsntwing the notice tor Lett a motion on to•noortov,
fennight.

the chafe refpetting the exemptions, an amendment
was moved, that the exemptions firtstld not extend in
thole Corps which had eapreifed a with not to be cit. e
eared. or to thole Volunteers of Cot ps beyond the
eilablithed number.
Upon the fuggellion of Mr. PITT, the exemptions
were only to apply in the cafe of Cavalry to ix slays
exercife, and Infantry 14.
A long converfation took place on the mode of
balloting for the Militia, in pariflres that had furnifh-
ed their quotas.- It was at length agreed to defer
that part cf the Bill till the Report.
Mr. PITT, referring to the intention of Govern-
ment to. encourage Volunteers to alienable, for the
purport of military difciplise, moved an amendment
to the elide for grauting an allowance to Volunteers,
in cafe of invafion, to the effea thist the allowance
fhould alto be granted on their being placed on per-
manent duty for any number of days, for their ssa.
provement in military exercife, with his Majetly's
probation.
General MAITLAND remarked, that, is the
event of lova:ion, it was only from the ranks of the
Volunteers the regular regiments could be fupplied.
He was therefore particularly defirous a door &fluid
be left open to all who wilhed to enter the regular
army. He moved an amendment, " That no per-
fon Ibould be placed in a regular regiment, unlefs he
volunteered his fervice."
General TA RL,ETON recommended that a good
underftanding &odd be kept up between the Colo-
lonels of Volunteer Corps and the General Officers
under whom loch corps might be placed.
Mr. YORKE obferved, that as the law now flood,
it was clear that whenever Volunteer Corps were
called out in cafe of invafion, they would be put tin.
der General Officers. In many cafes they thought
themfklves under General Officers without being
called out ; for Wawa, they fubmitted to infpalinn.
If the Hon. Member alluded to any cantroul by Ge-
offal Officers over Corps when they were not fo
called out, he thought it would not ill advifable for
1, the Houfe to adopt his fuggeßicro.
Mr. PITT, after Rating that it was purpnfed to
pot Volunteers under General Officers when they
were on permanent duty, obferved, that, confidering
the great number of Volunteers, it might be lowa-
lible always to get military officers of that rank ; he
therefore thought that the elaufe relative to that
fubjee amid be amended, by placing them under
fuch General or other Field Officers as his May.fly
Would appoint. This produced along converfation.
Lord CASTLEREAGH thought it right that
every Staff Officer thould always have the command,
when he was of fuperior rank to the principal Officer
of a
btrC.TITT propofed the infertion of the words,
144 the Army Omer ranking above the Commander
of a Corps," became it may be difficult to General
Officers in every &Sri&
Colonel MAITLAND &jolted to any arrange.
ment that would pet officers of new or nominal rank
at the head of old Lieutenant Colonels.
Mr. TIERNEY Paid, that in the fituation he held,
he Would now confider Menial and his corps under
the command of any General Officer. When called
into aaual fervice, he Would confider the fame rules
equally applicable to Volunteer Corps and regiments
of the line.
After a long converfatinn betweeD the Secretary
at War, Yorke,. Vanfittart, Colonel Elford, Mr. Se-
, cretary Sir W. W. Wynne, Lord William
Ruffen, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and others,
the clack, as it originally hood, was agreed to:
The next clash which produced any difeuffino was
that in page to, which empowered the Commanding
Officers of Corps to difmifs any perfons under their
command, for irregularity or mikondult.
Mr. ROSE propofed an musclemen', obliging
loch fuperior Officer to make a return of all perms
fo difcharged to the Deputy Lieutenant of the Coun-
ties ; and Mr. RAMS another, requiring them to re-
turn Jlfit the reafons.or caufes of the ditcharge.
Mr. TIERNEY, in reply, obferved, that any
perfon injurionfly difcharged might have his remedy
by a civil anion ; but he did not fee that the Deputy
Lieutenants had any thing to do with the bufinefs.
Mr PITT was againft the amendment, and Mr.
FOX (poke in favour of it, as he did not approve of
fuperior officers having unlimited power to difchinge
men without atfigning a fufficient reafon fur it.
The ATTORNEY GRNERAL reprefented the
prefent as no more than a re-enaltment of that, in
the Adt of the 4zd of the King, which gave dim
that power already.
Mr. PITT afked who was to judge of the caufe
after it was affigned
Mr. FOX agreed that it was ufelefs to give an ap-
peal withnnt a remedy.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
mined his doubts, whether the power of infmiffing
&could be left unfettered to Commanding Officers,
and fuggefled the propriety of a Court of Enquiry
on loch occafions.
Sir JOHN NICHOLL wifhed to hive the power
left unlimited, thinking no abufe of it was to be ex-
peered, as the authority of commanding officers fa
greatly depended on the opinion and ellunation they
were held by their corps.
Col. CRAUFORD was for a Court of EnquirT.
Mr. Secretary YORKE admitted that the power
Orould not remain unfettered, and hoped, that tore
more time for examination, the clauf- would be 'of-
fered to remain in its prcfcnt Rate till the Report.
Mr. FOX called upon Minifters, if they *deli
leave this power unreftrained, to fay fo boldly. He
difclaisited for hied& all enmity to the Volunieet%
and did not like, a fecund time, a frond columned
on them, by faying one thing and meaning another:
Let the Government aft fo as to have no mu/ 44.
pules upon points sith the Volunteers, or Stith
intth, on another occafion, the law opinion of the
Attorney General. After a dill:140n of fume
length, the amendment was negatived..
Mr. PITT propofed that the clad; &Dal be ri•
poned till after the recommitment.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQyEII
poled this, and exprefed his comfit's at a difpaol4
manifefted to prefs a divifion. as the cleat can
rrt
be pAponed without prejudice to the Bill in the...
tute difcaffion. It was a fuhjete of the utm..ll or:
rortance, and if any &Met amnia occur, he itto•
look to his own reludtance to deciJe isorne,:wi
with great fastisladtion, and the precipitancy of o°4'
with ferret.
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'Dr. LAWRENCE Gid, he would not oppore the
Monter:, but give them time to reeunfider their
error..

Mr. FOX declared, that never in his life had he
before the misfortune In little to underhand the Right
Hon. Gentlemen. lie could perceive no ufe in fill-
ing up a claufe, which, after all, would be no more
than fo much wage paper, and if it was omitted, the
Minifters might afterwards take their choice, whether
they would perfevere in the meafure or not. By fill.
ing np the claufe, they fliould confider in what atti-
tude the Parliament and the Volunteers would Rand
in the interval between this and the final determina-
tion on the fubjett.
After fosse further remarks, the Committee di-
vided on the claufe,

For it tot—Again} it 87—Majority 14.
After a converfation between Mr. Yorke, Mr. Pitt,
and Mr. F..x, the Chancellor of the Exchequer pro-
pofed, that the term of fourteen days Ihould be fpe-
cified for any Volunteer who chofe to refign, in order
to give notice of his determination. This amendment
was put and. carried. Refpeeling the claufe which
exempted Volunteers from the hair-powder tax, it was
agreed, that the following words lhould be inferted
after hair-powder When he (hall ceafe to be a
Member of a Volunteer Corps, he (hall not be ex-
empted."—Mr. Pitt, in alluding to the two guineas
to be allowed each Member of a Corps which (hall
march alum the appearance of an enemy, or for im-
proving thernfelves in military difcipline, thought
that no objedion could be made to granting them.
(itch additional encouragement as would enable them
to difplay their fpirit with greater decifion and ad.
♦antage. An additional bounty of one guinea ought
to be granted to thofe who fhotild ferve in either df
thole wrys; .ceconomy in what regarded the fafety
of the country wa, imprudent, if not dangerous.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did
certainly fed the importance of (economy, but fhould
not make any facrifice of die lateral of the country
from any fuch motive. 1
General Maitland, Mr. Yorke, and Mr. Pitt made
feversl obfervations on. this point ; after which Sir
Wm. Pulteney recommended drift attention to men-
nomrs and differed widely from the Right Hon.
Gentleman under the gallery (Mr. Pitt), with regard
to the expenditure which lie thought neceffary. He
feared that a long time would clapfe before the coon-
try would forget the profusion of his adminiaration. •
Mr. WINDHAM thould agree with his Right
Hon. Friend under the gallery, re:peeling an addi-
tional bounty to Volunteers, if he could induce him-
fell to think that he .ecured the country by fuch a
rneafure. What was to be gained by limb a plan ?—,
Not the fafety of the country, as his Right Hon.
Friend (Mr. Pitt) expeeted, but the mere chance of
Grey, and tt,e quellion then would be, whether this
chance was b ..;-ht at too ; igh a rate, or may nor
be purc.hafed -ter terms? In illuflration of this
opinion, the Rig.' is. Member inftanced many
uf:s to which mor. '4 be applied for the fafety
of the country. inliead ::r it as a bounty to the
Volunteers ; and concluded with doting his apprehen-
fion of the eonfequences that may ante, if the regu•
Jar army, of whofe loyalty no perfon had a higher
opinion, began to contrait their fituation with that of
this new fpecies of force, which was to receive a
bounty totier cradles, or as often as they went out
even to improve themalves in military difcipline.
The Chairman then rep rtedprogrefs,and obtained
leave to fit again on Tburfday next.—Adjourned.