Star.
London, England, 1819-06-10 00:00:00

The CPTANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUE. R, in
his reply, said it was intended to raise £12,000,001
in the way he had done this year,and then there would
be wanted only I:4,000,000 from the Sinking Fund.
Some more conversation took place between Mr.
GRENFRLI. and the CHANCELLOR of the Excitz4wat,
when the first Resolution of raising £12,030,000 by
Annuities, Etc. was put and carried.
Mr. GRENFELL asked, if an/ arrangement had
been made with the Bank as to the £BOO fee they re-
ceived on every million for transacting the business ?
The CHAIq'CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re-
plied there had not.

The question being put upon the Lottery Tax,
Mr. CRIPPS, amid loud cheering from the Oppo-
sition side of the House, stood up to oppose it.
There being a cry of Question ! the House divided,
when the numbers appeared—Ayes 117—Noes' 9
Majority in favour of Ministers 68.
The new Duties were agreed to.

TAX ON MALT AND TOBACCO,
On the Resolution for imposing the proposed duty
on Malt and Tobacco being read—
Mr. GOOCH said, it gave him pain, after having
supported the Finance Resokitions to, find himself
called on to oppose one of the principal Resolutions
founded on them. He could not, however, refrain
from saying, that the Petitions of the Agriculturists
had been disregarded ; and they were now about
to be further taxed. It was indeed said that the Corn
Bill was a protection to the Farmer. On the con-
trary he should say it was, under the present system,
a dead letter ; as the foreign .dealer was underselling
the English grower, so much as to ruin him. The
rtlght Hon. Gentleman had said, the Malt Tax would
not injure 'the agricultural, or any other body. He
differed so materially from his Right Hod. Friend,
as to think it oppressive, and would therefore oppose

it in every stage.
Mr. BUXTON rose to vindicate the brewers from
the imputations cast upon them by Me Chancellor of
the Exchequer. He owned that he felt exceeding
great indignation on this subject, but that he would
not exceed the bounds of that respect which was due
to the House and the Right Honourable Gentleman,
if he gave the most direct contradiction which the
English language could afford, to the statement
which had been made relative to the brewers, by the
Chancellor of the Exchequer on Monday night.
Mr. BROGDEN (the Chairman) rose to order. It
was a rule that it was irregyAar for any Member to
allude to language which had been used by any other
Member on a former debate. It was of course for
the' Committee to decide whether they would act on
this-rule.

Mr. MARTIN (of Galway) thought it would be
very inconvenient for the House to act upon this rule

—(Cries of Question, question ! )
Mr. BUXTON said, that if any Honourable Mem-
ber on any former occasion made a statement irr.-
puting the high price of porter to the rapacity of the
brewers, that statement was unfounded. The brewers
were a calumniated and devoted race of men.—

(Laughler.) The truth was, that on several occasions,
when the price of malt had risen 20s. per quarter,
they had raised the beer only 10s. This was not
done, he must admit, from any feeling of compas-
sion towards the public, but was the effect of compe-
tition. As to the general taxes which were now pro-
posed, he entertained opinions, in one respect, dif-
ferent from the Honourable Members opposite ; in
Other respects, different from Honourable Members
near him ; and, in other respects, different from al-
most every man in the country.—(Laughter.) How-
iwer ludicrous this might appear, he thought it his
duty to state it plainly ' • and he was not afraid to
avow, that he thought this one of the most proper
periods for raising new taxes. It was indispenslibly.
necessary for the security of the country, that an
adequate revenue should be raised. But he decidedly
objected to the Malt Tax, as falling almost exclu-
sively upon the lower orders.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that none of the taxes which he had proposed were
intended to fall upon the poor for the purpose of
securing the property of the rich. The great object
of these tars was ultimate relief and immediate
security to the whole nation—(Loud cheering.)—As
to what had been said with so much warmth by the
HonOurable Gentleman who spoke last, he must ob-
serve, that he had cast no • such aspersions upon
.brewers as was supposed. If indeed it could be sup-
posed ti ;it he was in any degree concerned in the
private calumnies against that class, then he could
understand the warmth of the Honourable Gentle-
Juan. But he was not aware that he had made any
statement which called for any warmth beyond dif-
ference of opinion. All the statements which he had
mdde'were from the best authority. He had said that
the country had not experienced the relief which was
expected from the removal of the War Malt Tax ;
and as an instance of this he• Observed, that the price
of porter had not been reduced. At the same time
it was rather strange that he had been twice instru-
mental in bringing out the secret, that the price of
porter was to be reduced.
Mr. WODEHOUSE must oppose the tax, as tend-
ing to affect the Landed interest.
Mr. CALVERT thought
.that the taxes proposed
by the Chancellor of the Exchequer were the most
objectionable that could be proposed. That on malt
was particularly objectionable, as affecting the lower
orders exclusively ; for he was sorry to say that the
liquors manufactured from malt were not so much
consumed by the higher classes as he could wish.—
(Laughter.)—The tax on tea, tobacco, and the other
articles, were objectionably for the same reason, be-
cause hey would fall chiefly upon the lower orders.
Into the general subject, however, he would not enter
at present, as his object in rising was to repel a charge
afade on a former night by the Right Honourable
Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) against
the brewers; for which he had not excused himself to-
night with the candour either of an official person, of
of a MeMber of the Houk.
Mr. HUSKISSON said he was not at all surprised
at the indignation with which the Honourable Gen-
tleman who spoke last, and another Honourable Gen-
tleman, had expressed themselves on the subject of
the imputations against the Brewers; but it was re-
markable, that all en which his Right Honourable
Friend had founded his opinion of the expediency of
the Tax on Malt remained uncontradicted by those
Gentlemen—namely, that the imposition of this Tax
would not raise the •price of Porter'—(Hear. hear!)
With regard to else price of Rec.*, he was five to al-

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lair, that If the pronoced-TAr„wese not imposed, these
Gentlemen. must AO hetrone'df their ZoniPenietit
competition meetings, for the purpose of ieducitif(tlie
price—(hear, hear, Lear!)

Mr. G. LAMB thought all the proposed Taxes
were oppressiv'e. • Fiom the langiage of the Chan*
cellor of the Exchequer, to a question he had put, it
w,as the opinion of many that a tas on Msltiwas
eitih in contemplation. The direct effect of a tax on
Milt must he to raise the price of beer to the con-
sumers, and 0..4 linver classes would be deprived of
that necessary of life. Sin should the price not
would the quality continue the same ?—( Hear, hear).
The interest of the Crown was not to he put in com-
petition t,r;th the welfare of the people.

Mr. CALVF.ItT, in allusion to the sentiments of
many tientlemen, begge.l leave to say, that while
they condemned the porter for its alleged bad qua-
lity, it was in every body's mouth !—(Loud laughter.)

Mr. BROUGHAM said, that, from the statement
of the Honourable Gentleman, it was impossible to
see whence the taxes could be raised ; and in the
present. state of the country, no Minister would state
that he intended to raise a tax of two millions on the
growers of barley. It would .appear impossible that
the whole would fall on the rap- acions Brewer, or the
no less rapacious distiller. The authority of Mr.
Barclay had been appealed to ; but, should the tax
fall on the Brewer, it would take from Mr. Barclay
the sum of £45,000 from the profits of his concern !
The fact was, that the tax must ultimately fall on the
consumer, and that would soon appear in a dimi-
nished consumption. On the present occasion the
Chancellor of the' Exchequer would be futmd as
much a theorist as on the Bullion Quesrion, The,
fall in the price of beer had been owing to the repeal
of the Income Tax, and the following rise had b
caused by the bad harvest. The price of beer woeuell
only continue at the present' rate white such• an
in-
flux of Foreign Bailey poured into the market.—
Should no new Tax be imposed, the price of Beer
would fall. The neglect of the agncaltoral in-
terest appeared clearly in the proposed Taxes.—
He had no objection to raising the price of spirits bi
taxation, so as to place them beyond the reach of the
lower orders ; and at the same time to lower the tax
on the Constitutional beverage of beer. The other
articles of taxation were as injudicious as the tax on
malt ; and the money raised would operpte much
more powerfully in the hands of• the people ,than at
the disposal of the Minister. He should vote most
sincerely against the Resolutions.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT thought the taxes on many
of the articles were very unequally imposed,' and
would fall'most heavily on the lower orders of the,
community—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. COKE (of Norfolk) declared, that till he saw
sincere retrenchment on the part of Ministers, he
would not vote a single shilling!—(Hear, hear, hear,
from the Opposition.) It would prove highly inju-
rious to the country. He had seen a Memorial from
a respectable body of Landholders of Norfolk, corn.:
plaimng bitterly of the hardships which they endured,
and which hardships would be greatly aggravated by
the pains and penalties of this new tax on Malt.—
It was lamentable that the Ministers should be so de-
ficient of means as tp resort to the little crooked po-
licy of depriving the lower classes of their wholesome
beverage. He had no objection to an additional duty
on spirits, but' he wished that Ministers withdrew that
on malt ; and, CO ifollg as he saw the country go-
verned as it was by those in power, he would vote
against any additional taxes on a people already too
much oppressed.—(Hear, hear, frotothe Opposition.)
The Committee then divided upon the Malt Reookition, and
the numbers were—Ayei,l9B—Noes, 97—Majority, 1014-.-The
Resolution was accordingly carried.
Strangers were excluded from 'the gallery for nearly two hones,
and during their exclusion much conversation took place in the
Committee.
L'pon a motion for an Adjournment, made by. Mr. Boairry,
another division took place, an 4 tlre trurberiverg—Ayes 40-0
Noes, 185—Majority, 145. ' 1
A third division also occurred upon a similar motion of Ad-
journment. The numbers were--Ayes,s7Noes; 191—Ma.
jority, 1:.4.
When strangers re-entered the gallery, Mr. J. P. GRAM' was
speaking from the Ministerial side of the House. Mr. Boounnsm,
Mr. Lisurrox, and some other leading Members of the Oppo-
sition were seated on the Treasury Bench, while Mr. ClllOlOlO.
Lord CASTLILIMAGH, and the CUANCLUAL of. the Rxcitzktrast
were ranged on the Opposition side of the Jlssuae.
Mr. J. I'. GRANT commented in strong language upon the
impolicy of imposing a new Tax ow. Tea, which :would fall ea
I heavily upon that class of individuals who were Scarcely able to
bear the burdens with which they were already oppressed—
( Loud cries e" times/it-0a! Question!") The House might be
impatient; but se felt it to be his duty, however late it might
be, to oppose with all his power these impositions. He conclu-
ded with moving an Amendment, that instead of 100 per cent,
96 per cent. he inserteil in the Resoldtion.
Mr. CANNING could not understand the object of the Gen-
tlemen on the other side in prolonging this discussion.
Mr. HUME recommended that the Amendment be with-
drawn, in the present state of the House.
Mr. BROUGHAM slid not agree in the propriety of with-
drawing the Amendment altogether, but he thought it would
be better to postpone taking the sense of the House upon it un-
til the Report was brought up. He wished Honourable Gen-
tlemen would reflect before
.they agreed to such a Resolution.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer did not seem to know the
real state of the tea market ; there had been a reduction in the
sale price of tea of sixpence in the pound ; and yet this was the
very moment chosen to impose a new Tax.
After a few observations from the CIiANCZLLOIL of the Ex-

cnnours, • s
Mr. J. P. GRANT said, he should not press a division on the
amendment at present. The amendment was then negatived,
and the original resolution agreed to.
The remaining Resolutions, imposing additional duties on To-
bacco, Peppet, Coffee, Cocoa, and Spirits, were then put succes-
sively; and r. J. P. Gm ANT moved an amendment to each of
them (except that relating to Pepper), the abject of which was
to fix the duties at the present rates. 'file aimndments were all
negatived without divisions, and the original Resolutions were
agreed to.
Mr. BROGDIEN reported progress; and the House having
resumed, the Report was ordered to be received this day.
The othdr Order's of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at Half-past Two.

HIGHWAY Romaasst.—Sunday evening a poor wont:. n of the
name of Jane Grey, was attacked near Hounslow Heath, by
four desperate ruPans, who robbed her of two one-pound
Bank of England notes, fifteen shillings in silver; stripped her
of her cloak, botmet, and stays, took the shoes andwockings off
her feet, beat her most unmercifully, and would in all pro-
bability have murdered her, but perceiving a coach advancing
they ran off with their plunder, leaving her in a state of itudky.
When the coach came up to where she lay, not being able to
stand up from the beating she received, she called out murder !
but the Coachman and Guard supposing sbe was a manias, drove
on without taking the smallest notice of her. In this situation
she was found by some humane persons, who afforded her ever,
assistance; she stated sher was on her way to Wooliviels, to s&
a son of hers, who is a egidter in the Sl:d Regiment of not_
attended yesterday at Hatton-gatdvn Police Office,
'gave- a description of the villains, and of the Arad
rubbed id, Irons which we are la slisLctaticas that At,
soon brought to,,justi‘c.

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