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able Gentleman was Waltverting tbilt:ret
if be did not allow leaprisonment lifter
verdict. In this witirmitile country 'sin then could
submit to such I proprisition. It was impossible to
&main from the mind die horrors of a 'prison, but
wh,t was the alternative? Dr. Johnton and oher
writers had held that perpetual imprisonment for debt
was too severe, but nomerouelnstilvent Acts had passed,
snide asany considered too favourable to debtors. The
II ir,e would go with the Hon. Gmeleman in deploring
the et priief, but What was to be the substi-
tute for imprisonment for debt, had never Mstered into
the mind of any man. It was visionary end hopeless
to suppose that arrest for civil debt could ever be dis-
pensed with in this counts?. Much had been said with
respect to the state of the prisons, but he did not know
that any representation bad been made to the Judges,
which did not meet with prompt notice and inquiry.
Ile was ready to listen to any proceeding by which
the suffering of prisoners could be reduced. He wished
to alleviatabUman suffering, but talk of doing away
imprisonment for debt was delusive.
Mr. CALCRA FT thought his Honourable Friend had made
nut a case for inquiry into the state of the Prisons; at. the same
tint', it was quite Utopian to talk of dispensing with imprisonoaent
for debt. The Insolvent Debtors' Act had deprived imprisonment
of eta sting. He wished his Honourable Ffiep4 to limit his mo-
dal' to inquiry into the state of the Prisons. There Ras so diffe-
rence of opinion on that subject, and he was contused the House
might dotnuch to correct many of those eafortinate dretunstances
which all must deplore. •
Mr. Secretary PEEL said, when be hearahe Hon. Cleotlensaa's.
motion, it smock him as one out likely to meet with the support of
the House. In the first place, it was for a Committee to in sire
into ail cases in which persons were liable to be for
debt; and secondly, whether imprisonment for debt co lid be die-
petted' with? He did not think it possible, with the disposition
which yrryalled to give Improvident credit, that imprisonment for
debt weld be avoided. What remedy bad the Hoe. Gentleman
to propose? TM Hon. Gentleman did not mean to leave the
creditor without any remedy. When the Hob. Geodeman stated
the hardship of itprisontnent, it did sot seem to enter his mind
that imprisens,ent bad the effect of deterring many from getting
into debt. With respect to inquiry into the state of the prisons, it
was only necessary to make out one et two strong eases to induce
the House at any time to go into that inquiry. He had no objec-
tion to inquiry, but it appeared fries the Reports that such inquiries
bad not been very effective. The Hee. Gentleman said,no medical
attendant had been appointed in the Elest.Peneas but the fact was,
he (Mr. Secretary Peel) bad lately ,apisintatil a very eminent
medical man to attend that prim, with 'salary of 1001. per mem,
to be paid by the Crown. The Hon. Gertisman &Woke attendance
ought to be en the Commas Oder that was the very mom ha had
stipulated for. Mr. Omer was ordered to attend the panel& as
well as the other side. The mime km which the Has. Gentleman
derived his information es mum comiseted with the Flestffri-
son was known, aseLlt was usury the Hon. Gandemen should
be ea his yowl. He (Mr. Peel) received Jeremiad's frees a
permit earned Jennings. and bed found the represectatkes ex-
tremely exaggerated. • One of the allegations lamps trombonists
totne Corona's Jury was without the slightest fladen. With
respect to the removal of the Fleet, he did net know there was
anything to be done at present. The City of London had offered
to take the site where the Fleet Prises' steed, aid give aneefier
for the erection of the Prison. He bad contend with the Chess&
for of the Eschequar ea the subject, and it appeared that socking
could be done this yes', but that circumstance did eat sespead the
mega:lades an diesublect. TO bops of the Ittsht Hem Gentlemsa
was, that at no very deem retied wasabfwg weal& bedew..WM
respect to the lines Booth Prima, whenever dime wee a meow
the office of the Ilarehal wee te he token leteeembleretion. It wall
one ei emolumeoteiros attesiedwlthpremangemasility. Tbe liftrau:
sbal was answerable ti the ghee IF far away Meow, wed he hats
right to refuse the Roes In maw mein 1161Mestiss was,wiedisr.
it might not be better to di away whit the sperm akomalree and
appoint a confidential peruse se the demthee without sexy mod
interest? The Right lien Emencry iseeissi the Hesse that the
Lord Chief Justice and the Mid Justice at Calm* Plees
ever been most willing to make the fullest twveatgassss+,wed to glee
satisfaction in every complaint of hopeoper madreet in the primes
Over which they bad centred. Oa she whole be had not the
slightest objection to enquiry into the state of prison+, but the Com-
mittee should he appointed foe the purpose only of making inquiry
into the state of the prisons for debtors.
Sk ROBERT WILSON ankported the Medan, but recom-
mended his Hoe. Friend to accede to the liberal propoeitiqn of the
Right Hoc. Gentleman.
Mr. J. SMITH said, that if the law of arrest for debt was to- I
pealed at once, and without other important alterations of the taw,l
they would consign many families in this century to hopeless pa
only. If the Hon. Member persevered In his Motion, be would
support him. as be thought the inquiry likely to be beneficial.
Mr. Alderman WOOD supported the motion.
Mr. MONCIE thought, that the enquiry into the state of the
prisons might be safely left In the hands of the Right Hon. Gentle-
man, but belted his Hun. Friend would persevere in the other part
of his motion for an Inquiry into the pracdbility of abolishing
prisetunent for debt.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL did not intend to enter Into
the general question; me should not have troubled the House at
all bat for the purpose of remarking that the crowded state of die
prisoos was in a great delves to be ascribed to a very useful Act of
F'adiamene having been suffered to expire. He mesas that which
prevented arrest on mesne preces when the debt was soder 151.
If no other Member would undertake to revivnit, be should pro-
bably to so.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY recommended the Honourable Member
to withdraw his motion.
Air. HUME, after a few remarks, consented to withdrew his
motion en account of the state of the House, but gave notice, that
he should again bring it forward at the wiles Opportunity.
Law or sentsateur rls lICOMAiII.
Mr. KENNEDY, after a few observations, moved for leave to
bring le a Bill simulate Parochial Settlements in Scotland.
Lord BINNING enacted the morloo.—Leave given.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY gave notice, that on Thursday next he
should move for an account of the state of causes in the various
Equity Courts. SUMO 'LAMM
Mr. F. BUXTON moved for copies or extracts of all commis.
'deadens from the Governors of -a respecting Negro Sla-
very, not already laid before the Houw. .
Mr. 7N I LMOT-HORTON observed, that it would be bnprae-
ticablero produce them before Raster.—Agreed to.
• Mc. F. BUXTON, moved that an humble Airitemjeepeesseted
to his Majesty, :equating copies of all coontsuninempeived
respecting the pmetetion of s person of the name of C.awlesr fee
cruelty to a negro slave In the Island of St. Kitts.—Agreed to. -
The same Honourable Sinuses begged to know why perste
ordered a considerable time ago bad not been laid before the House.
Mr. W. HORTON attributed the delay to the Colonial Governors.
coals saws.
The Committee on the Corn Bill was postponed to Thursday.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at a Quarter past One &Clock until to-morrow
(this day).

LIST OR THE MINORITY
011 TV! SECOND DEADLEG OW TUE COSH WEL.
Arbuthnot, Him. H. }leaning. J. ' Pryse, P. •
Antrobus, C. C. Gooch, Sir Thomas Pollen, Sir John
Aahurst, W. H. Guise, Sir B. W. Pitt, J.
Alcock, T. Gordon, Hon. W. Powell, E. H.
Bastard, IL P. Gordon, R. Bickford, W.
Balfour, J. Hay, Lord John Rogers, E.
Balkes, H. Harvey, Sir J. Smith, C.
Bell, M. Honywood, W. P. Smyth, Sir G. H.
Burton.J.J. Bottum, Lord Smith, Hoe. R.
Blandford, Lord Hotilds*orth. T. Sotheron, Admiral
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Itrudenell, Lord'
Chandoe, Lord
Clive, Lord
lien. IL
Clive, IL
Chaplin, T.
Cortsis, E. J.
Clinton, C. F.
Chlehester, A.
INveitirort, D.
Dundas, C.
East, Sir E. H.
leertoo, W.
rsne, J.
Foley, E.
Wendt. A.
F.ellow•ea, W.

tieneage, G. P. Sibthorp, Colonel
Heron, Skil. Talmash, F.
logilby, Sir W. Tennyson, C.
King, Sir J. D. Utbridge, Lord
King, Hon. It. 6Cork) Vaughan, Sir Robert
Kavanagh, T. Wyndham, W.
Leanest, Lord O. Wodehouse F
Lopes, Sir M. Western. e. C.
lilatqueen, T. P. Wood, T.
Manners, Lord Um. Was, J.
Maitland. Hon. 6.. Wemyi., Captain
Maitland, Lord Webb, F..
lilurland, Sir S. B. Tellers.
Hortlicene, a. Lethbridge, Sir. T. B.
Palmer, R. (Berk.) Knatchitull, Sir E.
Pelham, C. Paired off
Philip, IL B. Chaptin.C.