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to inform the Home, that the general efeet of
the.e proceedings at Manchester, and subsequent
t) it, had been to engender an alarm that the Li-
berty of the Subject was likely to be endangered.
He had spoken of Manchester, but forbore to give an
cyinion on it, otherwise than that there should be
true inquiry into it. He would now add, that if Mi-
rilsters and that House had determined to put down
murmurs of the People by military force and
ea:xi:ion, it was in vain for him ever again to raise
his head in •their defence—(flear, hear). If no in-
quiry was niade now, we were to be henceforward at
the mercy of the Ministers ; and the natural conse-
quance would be, to draw that line of distinction be-
tween toe higher classes and the lower, which was
the curse of every country—(flcar. hear). The ex-
ample of France should not be lost. The circum-
stances of this country and those at the beginning
of the French Revolution were very similar; and if
some consideration and. attention had been paid to
the complaint of,- abuses, the consequences that fol-
-lowed would never have been: In place of that,
every institution, however old, was supported, and
every man was deemed a Jacobin who opposed
them, until, by a perseverance in this blindness, a con-
•ulsion took place, which swallowed up every thing.—
He begged the House once more to discriminate be-
tween the Radicals who were in no force, and the
great mass of, the population, whose eyes were tuined
towards the proceedings in that House, but not with
the most friendly dispositions, on account of the in-
difference which they supposed it had to their ihte-
Jests. Yet they had devoted their lives and fortunes
to its support, and in return it was incumbent o.n the
House to convince them that the support and asser-
tion of their rights were amongst the first and most
important of their duties. The Right Honourable
Gentleman sat down amidst the most general and
continued cheers. He then rose again, and proposed.
as Amendment to the Address, which was, in sub-
stance, the sante as that moved in the House of Lords
by Earl Grey.

The Marquis of TAVISTOCK rose to second the
Amendment. He recommended a calm and dispas-
sionate inquiry into the trar.sactions at 'Manchester,
with no other view; than public justice and interest.
The Noble Lord then eulogized the character of Earl
Fitzwilliarn. and in warm terms censured his dismis-
sal. It. WAS melancholy to see things conie to that
pass, that the Administration could "not support
themselves without standing armies, and further in-
cicasing that force, by an addition of ten or twelve
thousand men. Discontent prevailed in the country,
which was owing to the want of confidence in the
Parliament, and the great difference there was be-
t 4-..:11 the votes of this House and the sense of the
People, as expressed so late as the General Election—
(lkar, hoar). He thought it inju.iicious to abolish
the Property Tar, and declared his intention of sup-
porting a renewal of it, but only on condition that
the resources of the State should be economized—
(Near, hear). The breach with the People was not
yet too wide to be repaired. The Noble Lord con-
cluded by stating, that the People were very patient,
under all their privations, and that it was the height
of impolicy and injustice to treat them in the way
they had been treated at Manchester, and to incite
them still more to discontent—t Hear, hear).
The question, after some arrangement with Mr.
Ttritxxv, ha ':ng been put from the Chair,
Lord CASTLEREAGH rose.--The line of dis-

cuision which had just beets adopted by the Mover
aud Seconder of the Amendment, made it necessary
for him to address the House somewhat more at
length on the present occasion than he had originally
iatended.
,The House would feel that there never

was i pericid in which Ministers were more sensible

of their responsibility than at present; nothing but a
deep sense of the condition in which the country at
present stood, had made it imperative to call upon
Parliament to undertake, at such a time, the solemn
tack of deliberation; and if Ministers had not taken
such a step, they could not have reconciled theircop-
du:a with the obvious interests of the State. It had
beea recommended by the opposite side of the House
to carry temper into the discussion of the, topics
which at present agitate the public mind. The Right
. Honourable Gentleman,. however, had not given an
example of that good temper, when he declared that
the House was losing the confidence of the Country.
Ile (the Noble Lord) contended, that the House had
always sheen that anxious attention to the real
rests of the People which entitled it to the confidence
of the Nation—a confidence which it had not log,
nor had it deserved to lose--but which such speeches
as that of the Right lion. Mover of the Amend-
ment was calculated to impair. The House would,
however, notwithstanding such speeches, cdntinue to
het ditlicalties at home with the same intrepid spi-
r.c an.: calm intelligence which distinguished its de-
-I.betations when coping with the more dangerous cir-
cumstances Which lately assailed the Nation (torn
a'...road, and through which it had so gloriously
borne it into security and triumph. Ile had no doubt
that, if the House found it necessary, from recent
events, to interfere in the administration of justice--
:oaf it could constitutionally do sos—it would, even
ia the difficulties which such au exertion of its audio-
- ri:y would have to cncou.ttcr, still conduct itself in
such a way as to augment the confidence of the People
in respect to its wisdom and integrity. The Itighafon.
Mover of the Amendment had set out with objecting
to the Address, that it did not state 'any definite
measures which it would be necessary to follow up,
shill respect to the events that had called for the
early meeting of Parliament. Bet (said the Noble
Lard) has the Amendment supplied that defect ?—..
Does it lay down any precise plait, or state any dis•
tiuct notions relative to existias circumstances?. No
such thing—it contains nothing but general state-
menu, except in the solitary, instance of its allusion
to the transactions at Manchester ; in that point
alone it differs from the substance of the Address to
the Throne. The rest is nothing but general phraseo-
103y, without any chtim to particular and specific
statement. The Noble Lord then proceeded to s-y,
that it was his intention, on the morrow, to lay on
the table certain infornration relative to the State of I
the N.ition, which information was of that description f
which did not previously require the examination of
a Committee, but could at once come before the in-
spectiOn of the house. Far this purpose the Mem-
hers would receive it in a printed form, and the House
would then he able to judge, on the best grnunde,
of the eligibility of going into the investigation..
—lf he now proceedei to answer any questions