Star.
London, England, 1821-04-12 00:00:00

-Mr. DICKINSON would oppose the suggest' on
of the last speller, as wholly irregular. ti„ ,tato.
ment made as to the Borough Compter was perfect',
correct, and the attention of the Public hld
called tb it by a Morning Paper, which the Court of
Aldermen had threatened to prosecute, though they
did not choose to carry it into execution.
Mr. Alderman WOOD was quite ready to meet
that question whenever it should be brought forward.
Mr. CREEVEY adverted to the Commission ap.
pointed five years ago to inquire into the fees of the
Courts of Justice, each of whoni had since enjoyed
£1,500 a-year.

Dr. LUSHINGTON said, that the labour of the
present Commission would be closed in a month
He should support the Amendment. As to the two.
women committed to the Compter, after they had
been enlarged a dispute had arisen between ae
Court of Aldermen and the Parish as to the expem;
of their clothing.
Mr. BATHURST supported the Amendment.
Mr. F. BUXTON would propose that the Honour.
able Alderman should be one of the Commissioner
as he had-been already in Ilchester Jail—(Laughter
He believed the two females in the Compter had
been clothed by private charity.
Mr. Alderman W 001) declined being one of 6,
Commissioners.
The question was then put, and the Amendment
carried without a division.

ARMY ESTIMATES.
The House then went into a Committee of Supply.
on the Army Estimates.
Lord PALMERSTON moved £6,8.54 for the A 4.
jutant-General and his Officers.
Mr. HUME wished to know for what this charge
was? Why should there be Clerks kept up in
Office, at an expense of £5,000 a-year to the Pult1;;?
In 1792, the Adjutant-General was ailowed £500:3
pay the whole expense of his Clerks, stationery, 241
all. He therefore proposed to reduce it by 1:166!.
Lord PALMERSTON said, the duties of the A.
jutant-Geneta.'s Office were zotally distinct from those
of the Commander-in-Chief's Office. He must re,
peat what he had said so often, that it was really non-
sense to talk of paying offices as in 1792; for would
the House wish the business of the Army to be done
as in that year? He then shewed the great increase
of business between the year 1792 and the present
year, in the Adjutant-General's °dice; and declared
it impossible to conduct the business of the office at
a lower rate with advantage to the Public and to the
soldiers, who now knew that if they had any claim it
would be attended to.

Colonel DAVIES contended, that when the Up-
'cant-General had all the business of the Volunteers
and Militia passing through his t-'ce, the expenses
of it was not so large.
Mr. HUME denied that he ever wished to reduce
the expenses of these various items of the Army to
the same sums as in 1792. All lip objected to was,
the keeping four Adjutants-General (tor he called
all the Deputies so), to inspect Military Colle;:es, with
efficient men under to make out the Retwns.
Lord PALMERSTON said, the llonotrable Gen-
tleman had the year 1792 constantly in his mouth;
and was for ever returning to that year as a ,ticidard.
Mr. H. G. BENNETT said, the N.ble Lord had
censured the conduct of the Government's own E.
nance Committee, from the Reports of which, they
on his side of the House moved their attempts at re-
trenchment. He accused Ministers of giving garbled
and reduced accounts to the Public of the expenses
of the various Offices of Government. The questice
he now asked was whether the House would reduce
one shilling in the present public distress?
Lord PALMERSTON said, that Gentlemen were
in the habit of moving for accounts, but not to such
an amount as, were necessary to cover all the expenses
of the different Offices of Government.

Mr. J. SMITH thought, that an Hon. Baronet,
formerly a Clerk in the War-Office, who had a pen-
sion of £4OO 2-year as a superannuation from that
duty, ought not to have the government of the West
India Islands.

Lord PALMERSTON said, the office war gra;
lished in 1808, and it was usual to grant a compen
sation for loss of office.
Mr. TREMAYNE defended the conduct of the
Finance Committee.—The Committee then divided,
For the original Motion - -es
Against it - - - • 54

Majority

Lord PALME R.STOIsT then moved £1,251 for the
Adjutant-General's Office.--Agreed to. He then
moved £6,192 for the Quarter-Master-General's Office.

Mr. 14 DME said he did not know what the Qum*
Master-General could have to do in time of pewee
when he had comparatively little to do even in tine
of war. That office exceeded in its expense by are
that of the year 1804. He then moved to reduce
the sum now proposed to £4,692.
Lord PALMERSTON said, there was no Assistant
Adjutant-General in Great Britain. This office of
Quarter-Master-General was exactly, as to numbasof
Staff and expense, the same as in 1792. Therefore
the Hon. Gentleman was completely canght in bit
own toil.
Mr. HUME said he was not caught in his own toil,
for there were five Assistant-Quarter-Masters-General
now, and there were none of them in 1792.
Lord PALMERSTON said, these District Officeri
were totally distinct from the office of Quarter• Master•
General at the Horse Guards.
Colonel DAVIES said, the troops were only moved
about once a-year ; and, therefore, there could be
hardly anything to do in this office.
Sir H. VIVIAN defended the establishment of de
Quartermaster-General's office. The duties of tile
Assistant-Quartermasters were of an active and ice'

portant description. They were stationed at rtftS.
mouth, Plymouth, Liverpool, Bristol, and Pontefract,
the first four were ports of embarkation ; and the dunes,
now performed by five, were formerly discharged by
thirteen ; and as to the establishment at Head-caw
ters, the strictest economy had been introduced by
the Commander-in-Chief.
Colonel DAVIES repeated his objections ;* rind 0:"
tended that only one of the five Assistants was Deco.
sary, namely, the one at Pontefract.
Sir It. FERGUSON thought any Aid-de-Camp
could superintend the embarkation of troops at-prr
sent at all the ports mentioned. The gallant Gece.rai
complained that the troops were sent Out tothe oc9l
i
Indies at improper periods. He had been informed.
that, in 1519, that beautiful Regiment, the 934 "