Star.
London, England, 1803-11-26 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS, FRIDAY, NOV. 11.

A new Writ Wa' OratT(i to he BMA for the Borough of Rye.
in Sone:, in the room of Lord Kiwitcfbury, now called t the
Houk of Peern.
A new Writ w is ordered to he iffved for the towns of Fortrofe.
Nairne, and liver .f,, in the room of Gordon, Efq. who %a-
cated his feat.

Mr. Mn NNINC: p7-frnted a Petition from thr Proprietors M

the London Dock.pra) ing for liberty to raif•, low% the
'lather fern 1.1. !O:%CCCI. to be employ:d in completing the fame.

Ordered to Le r,S,erred to a Sdect C3orr;mittec.

Mr VANIttl I TART moved, that there be 14h1 before the Houle
in Account of the net Produce of all the P Toian,nt 7._ar•
the years ending the tc.th of Oclober,lBoa ard 1833. Ordered.
The f..l!elwi:lg Ffrnion wereorderad to be taken into
sonfidcra:ioa Accord:l;g to their priority:—
New NVinedOr, on 7'hurfeliy the 9th day of February.
VT,ymouth, on the day; and Ilcheiter on Tuaday, the
'4th of February.

The SPEAbZEII informed the Houfe, that his Ma.
lefty had been waited upon with the Addrefs of the
Houle, which his Ntijelly had gracioufly received,
and to which he was plealt;il to return the following
mal grnciJus anlwcr :

Gentlemen-1 return yon rny warmcft thinks for this dutiful
and affectionate Addrds. Such a declaration ni your fenti-
nents at the picket moment cannot fail to aff ,rd me the lii ,;heft.
faisfadion. I have the molt petted reliance on yr.ur fuprort
and on the eacrtio is of my faithful fubjeas, to bring the conceit,
which we are at preleat engaged, to a rucceratul and honour-
able inc."

The Hnnfe refolved it1:11 into a Committee of
:upply, Mr. HOBHOUSe in the Chair ; and having
.aken his Majay's mod gracious Speech into con.
federation, refolved, on the motion of the Chancellor

tf the Exchequer, that a Supply be granted to hir.
Majefty.—The Ilonfe heirs returned, the Rcpoit of
the Committee was ordered to be taken into conll-
- on Mont:lty next.
Mr. CHARLES DUKDAS reported from the Sae&
Committee on the Waterford Eleetion Petition, that
te Committee, 'autumn to the order of the Houle.

ad met that day, at half pall three o'clock, ar.d
waited nne hour, when Mr. Grant, one of the Mem.
bers, fur whole attendance on that day an order had
been made, not appearing, the Committee adjourned,
and now waited or the inflruelions of the Houle.—
le then moved, that Fi ancis William Grant,

difcharged from Any tut ther attendance on the
Lid Committee.

This Motion produced a converfation of fome
.ngth.
The Swami u raid, he conceived it necatry to
recal the rafts of this cafe to the recolleetion of the

toufe, in o•d:r to try the merits of the Waterford
.leaion Petition. A Coniminion, during the Lai
teffion of Parliament, was iffued to Ireland to take
-min evidence, puribant to the provifions of An AO

it deciding cafes of controverted Eleaions in Ire-
ind : the written evidence was returned, in order to
laid before the fele& Committee of that Houfe ;

it prior to the IA prorogation leave was granted
the Committee to adjourn till the fecond day
the next Sellion of Parliament. That circum-
ance mutt have been known to all the Members
the Committee, and they did accordingly all meet,
:ept Mr. Grant. Now it remained for the Houle
decide, whether the attendance of that Gentleman
could be difpenfed with ? He thought it neceffary
ifo to remind the houfe, that according to ilet of
trlianient, every Committee appointed to try Con-
,vetted Lrlccii ns in Ireland may proceed td bilkers

cafe nine of the Member; be pi-efent ; but it would
neceffery for the Houle fira t, dikharge thole also
old have been abfent.

On Mr. Dundas's nt-t...n being put,
The CNAACILLOR oP T 9 “XCHEONER laid, that
lefs preiper and tatisfaftory re.tfons could he al:
;ned for the abfenc: of A Mern.Jer from an Elec.
in Committee, the Ho!lre w2ght never to confent
his beiog (net sr,,,cd from I.i, attendance. There
is nn instance of loch an indulgence having ever
7a grated. etcept upon lime cogent reafons hay.
been aaigned. Theref(:re, ur.al come Inch reafon
is given, he mitfl diEnt from the motion, toilets
was for the purprife of difyialifying the abfent
:nibcr, ard of inftituting fume lubfequent pro-
euing him.
Mr. C. GRANT fait!, he thought it neceirary to
and fay a few words in behalf of the Hon.
Aleman, whole abfence was complained
_ .

}lnn. Gentlenun WAS ;a Ct.!oncl in the

was now along with his regiruci.t at Daudet:, ill
band. He had iracndcd to be preterit at the

.etir.g of Parliament but his public duty prevented
sis to the Ccrternivee in quctli.:,n, he could
ire the Honk, that Colonel Grant was completeiy
In err-cr on the fubjeet ; and that he was not abfsnt
centionally, or from negligence. The fag was,
4: at the prorogation of Parliament, he thought
it the Ct.n.naittee had been dilF,lecd, and that his
her anCIIJAIICC was 111111CC.:1111Ty.
l he SPE? KKR laid, it was for tl.c Houle to conflalcr
.1 pr...:ec.linz it s.r.uld be proper to adort au!,
a1..1 to the n. Member who was abisnt the
.ti, n then st as, whether he fliould he di:drarged

.m his attendarce on the Committee ?
t.t.t ft of t't I:teat f.id, it ap-
,ttst th". 11,,iife might, fir the convenience of
filch a icgolat'tn as might emible
C mmi t ^ en 1,1(1-,...(1,41 the which it
,:;ca aoe. v.itholst feuLtirg their chit-re-
*: tht•3 . ltct knits think ,

nrnfer to enter into aizlinrt the :+'•rent Member. Tt
mi4lit .111 ) be a lubjc:t tit 6,, cor.luirration,
•!P! HHnnG• wnold ptrrnit a :1 of tl•is kind to
t!lree of its Member s Ihniild he ablent ?

The SPE .1 Xl• R Lid, that in the year 1775, a cafe
fornessht fitnilar to the pirfent occurred. It was
that of Mi. Ihudi Gray having been ahfent from
the Downton Elation Committee, of which he was a
Member. These was, however, a difference between
hat Cafe and the prefent ; and the Houfe permitted
the Committee to proceed to bufinefi without that
Mernb:et bring prefent.
By the direClical of the Speaker, the Clerk then
read, from the books, the precedent alluded to by
him. It dated that a complaint having been made
Ito the Houle, that in conlequence of the abfence of
Booth Gray, E(9. limn the Downton EleClion Com.
mittee, that Committee could not proceed to buil-
t:OS ; that a letter was delivered in from the abfent
Member, dating, his having been obliged to go out
of town, and rcquelling that his abfence might be
difpenfed with ; and that Ed. Gibbon, Efq. then a
Member of the Houle, laying he was acquainted with
the hand writing of Mr. Gray, and that the letter
then read was in his hand writing. In confequence
of this letter, and the excufe contained in it, the Corn-
mittee vas ordered to proceed to the confisteration ofi
the EleClion Petition without Mr. Gray.
Mr. TIrsNFY obferved, that in the cafe juft quot-
ed, it feemed that Mr. Gray made himfelf appear be.
Ire the Houle by letter; but in the prefent innance,
the Houle knew nothing of Mr. Grant, but that he
was abfent. The Houle muff therefore either dif-
charge him altogether, or order the proceedings of
the Committee to be adjourned until he fhould be
made to attend in his place. But in his opinion that
Hon. Gentleman ()mold not be difcharged from his
duty, merely becaufe he was abfent.
Mr. BORLAND conceived that a better excufe had
been made for Colonel Grant than for Mr. Gray ; in
as much as a Member of the Houle had jolt declared,
that the former gentleman was now employed in the
fervice of his country ; and that he confidered the
Committee to have been difcharged.
Mr. BRAGG! Paid, that in the formic cafe there
was a document to be inferred on the journals of the
Houle : the only difference between tkat and the pre-
fent was, what fort of document was now to be put
on the journals ? What fort of cafe the prefent should
be conlidered to be ? Whether the Houle fitould con-
fider the (torment of one of its Membets as a Cul&
cient excufe ?

Mr. CHARLES GRANT laid, that the diflance be-
tween London and Dundee was In great, as to render
it impoilible for Colonel Grant to attend any order
of the Houfe, in lefs than eight days.
The SPEAKER laid, there would be ni difficulty in
making a fpecial entry on the journals, fignifying,
that Mr. Grant was not difcharged from his atten-
dance, without filch a provition being made, as might
enable the Committee to proceed to bufinefs ; and the
Houfe might afterwards order him to attend, that
he might give a latisfaftory account of the caufe of
his abfence. A foundation might therefore be laid
in the journals, for the meafurethe Houfe was about to
adopt, which Ihould prevent any improper precedent
from being eilablifhed. Something might be Rated
to this effcel :—that complaint haring been made of
the abfCnce of Mr. Grant, and a Member prefent
having info:rn:d the Houfe, that it had beeu his in-
tention to be pre:Cut, but was delayed by attendance
on his military duty ; that he laboured under a mif-
apprehenfion, as to the (cleft Committee, of which
he wn. a Member and that he was now at fuch a
[ &fiance, that he could not attend in proper time to
tit on the Committee, &c. For there reafons, the
Houle difcharged him.
The CHANCELLOR of the Excit Foy ea laid, it was
certainly fit he fhould be difcharged, becaufe, when
he came to town, he might claim the right of giving
an opinion as to the decihon made by the Committee.

The SPEAKER Undoubtedly it is neceirary he
fhould be difqualified."
A motion to the following die& was then pat and
carried That F. W. Grant, Efq. be difcharged
from any further attendance on the faid Committee ;
that the Committee dc, proceed to bufinefs, notwith-
(landing his abfence ; and that the faid F. W. Grant
do attend in his place on Wednelday the ^th of De-
cember."