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TRRASUILY WA RRANT&
Mr. LUSHINGTON hid no the table the Esti-
mate. of Money paid by this country to France f. r
the Maintenance of Prisoners of War during the
years 1816-16 ; likewise Copies of all Treasury War-
rants transferring the Audit of PulaiN Amami from
the Audit General Office to any other department..
Mr. HUSKISSON rose for the purpose-of making
no objection to the printing of those papers, but ra-
ther ti thank the Honourable and Learned Genii.-
man who moved for their production. The Meat-
bers of tight House had, no doubt, penned a state-
ment in the ordinary vehicles of intelligence, by
which it .did Sprat that a sum of .4/50,00J had been
, issued to him iii an (Oficial capacity, with a special
instruction that the account h r its application should
be made to the Treasury alone. In this statement
was comprehended the double charge of gross mis-
conduct on the part of the Treasury, and of cerrtYpt
i favour towards the individual. It was understood to
have been also communicated by a Noble Individual
iii another place, and he could only add, that the
place and character were calculated to give a degree
of weight to the charge. He therefore felt himself called
upon to state, that not only was the whole unfounded,
,but there was not a portion of it true—(Hear, hear.)
No such sum.hod (seen issued, nor had any such sr
cial exemption been either sought or allowed,- 'lto
only.favour he had ever asked *as, the most prompt
and accurate audit from the public auditors, What
might be the motive of the person who had imposed
the statement on the Noble Individual—whether 1
was from a wish to asperse the public department to
which be belonged, or to gratify private malice, he
could not state; but he trusted theexplauation would
have the effect of inculcating the caution in .all pet.
sons bringing charge's—to be satisfied that the tiwta
have aome foundation, and that the iusiuuations they
throw out are not wholly unwarrantable—(Haer.)
Mr. BROUGHAM begged to astute the .Right
Hon. Gentleman that he was wholly mistaken its
thinking that the Pipers now piesented etere.moved .
fur by him with the least referere,e to the armee;
to which the Right HOn. Gentleman alluded. The
motives that induced him to call for these documents
arose from very different considerations. It was in
the recollection of the House, that two Sessions ago,
At that late period of the Session when little attention
was bestowed upon the passing business, but when
too frequently very =pant subjects were pressed
1 forwards, perhaps from that very feeling a creation.
of a new department was authorised. It consisted of
a President and two Members, whose duty would be.
to audit the Colonial Accounts. There did and does
exist at Somerset House a very useful, very expen.„
sive Board of Audit—at an expense altogether of
460,000 a year, and the sole object in moving for-
the production of those Papers was to ascertain the.
extent of Acgoppts translerred from the Somerset
oHouse department As the new creation of Colonial
Audit. On a furmeireoccation• he had felt it his duty
to put a question respecting a vacancy in the Colonial.
I Board, and riceialut AM answer that could not alone
be considered'gr iiqying to the country in its desire
for retrenchment, but in some degree a concession so,
those who originally opposed the construction of the
Board of Colonial Audit, for now it was admitted
by the Honourable Gentleman opposite, that two
could execute-the duties, fur the discharge of which- •
three were originally appointed. .With respect to the
delay in passing public accounts, which unfortunately •
was.so often the subject of general complaint, he had.
to state that in the course of the present Session it
wassi.he intention of an Honourable Friend of his to• .
bring the whole subject before the House, with' the .
view of adopting the course best calculated to du jus-
tice to the public at large, and to the pcblie.account,
mats themselves.
Mr. HUSIEISSON, in euplanation, stated that 110
WAS not in the House when the Honourable and
Learned 'Gentleman (Mr. Brougham) made the me.
non i' but he hi& onderstood that he accompanied
his motion with no observations. After what had - •
been published, it was natural then to think that the
documents were called far in reference to that subject.
Mr. LUSHXNGTON took the opportunity to say,
that in the answer to.the HUnourable and Learned
'Gentleman (ah. Brougham); given by an Honour..
'able Friend (Mr. Bourne), respecting the vacancy .
occasioned by death, he (Mr. Blom.) was under a
mistake, it being impossible, hont.,the mass of Coto-
ilia! Accounts unaudited, for the Colonial Depart- :
mem to discharge its-duties withoot tbe,renewal of
that appc?mtnient,.(l/ear, hear, from eh( Opterition.) •
Mr. BROUGH... begged to ask titillate Speaker,
whether the most x t Member of the C. 1,1.iel
board had not diedtlato orat Malta; and .whethir he .
114,1 not beta sent to, kloppolony to arrange sets el
•its unaudited aceouots? t.- I.
. M. •LUSHINeP,M4i4U.MeII it was Colonel
Elliott& was alluded to,; i tie died at :Palm, and
was there arranging, .14,h-lieved, svzraela its public
accounts. '
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. Mr. BROUGHAM-The country will appreciate
I justly the dispo4i;ion to epepomy thus exempl,iled in
the continuance of tl;it, office, that, a few evenings
past, was stated ,n haea.ohogettier ceased.
The Papers were erdered to be printed.
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6 Lcr.l'W I LLIA:kI Iiii,NTINCK Fekented a !Nal.

Earl GROSVENOIt introduced Vie notice of a
motion on part of this subject, by a variety of ob-
servations, referring generally 'to both topics. He
expressed his satisfaction in the outset. at what had
lately transpired, relative to the sacrifice made by a
Noble Lord of a very considerable pan of the 'acre•
live emoluments of an Office which he held; so lau-
dable an example was, he thought, well worthy of
imitation. Adverting to an idea, which seemed to
• him to be entertained of disaffection prevailing to a
considerable extent, be declared his conviction that
the great body of the people were firmly attached to
their King and the Constitution of, the country. So
strongly was he fixed in this sentiment, that lie should
again bring forward a subject to the consideration of
their Lordships, which had lately been much can-
vassed without doors. and upon which. the, opinion of
the country was extensively and decidedly declared.
He was anxious that threariews which he took of these
great questions should not be misstated or misrepre-
sented. Not that he personally regarded misrepre-
sentation, as his principles and sentiments were indi-
vidually too well known and so far, he entertained
no other feeling than that of contempt in regard to
it; but when whit was said may be intimately con-
nected with the best interestsiof the country, he natu-
rally belt anxious that he should not be misrepresent-
ed with respect to the notice he was about to give.—
It was universally known that Petitions had come
forward from all parts of the country. calling for re•
trenchment in various ways, as well as for Parlia-
mentary Reform. The wishes of the country,, as
.thus decidedly eeprested, may be divided into four
heads:.—First, with regardao the Military Expendi.
lure ; 2dly, with respect to, the Civil Expenditure;
3.117, Economical retrencluneqt with regard to Sine-
cures and useless offices.: Upon one -of these heads
lse took theliberty to call the sericvaitteutiortof their
Lordehips in the fast Sessioo. With respect to the
Military Expenditure of the Country, instead of their
hearing. at the commencement of the Session, that
same important reductions had taken place, as were
to be expected, they heard of such a degree of disaf-
fection existing as may render any considerable re-
ductien impolitic; he was, however, happy to hear
since, that reductions Ao A considerable amount were
intended by his 'Majesty's Government. In other
points. however, be thought that no hope. of re-
trenchment could be rationally entertained. He
thought it therefore a subject at which their Lord-
ships ought seriously to look ; and he_ should, ere
long, beg leave to trouble their Lordships with some
motion upon the subject.. The abolition of Sinecure
Places and useless Offices was an object devoutly to
ba.wished for; and it was a consideration upon the
priociple of which he should take .their, Lordships'
opinion. He deemed it, but the discharge of a sacred-
, duty to gall the attention of that House. to the.euti-:
jest, and which he should.do, were he to stand alone.
With respect to the -other question, that of Parlia-
mentary Reform, sentiments seemed to be entertain.
' ed by some, tp which lie could by no means stab.
scribe. The last time that question came before Par.
liament, it. was in the shape of a Bill ; and if such a
measure as that should come before their Lordships
in the shape of a Bill, it should have his support.—
As to the ideas of Universal Suffrage and Annual
Parliaments, as held by some, he could not approve'
of them ; it was, however, held by those who under.-
stOod the Constitution, not that a Parliament should
be annually elected. but that a, Parliament should
be annually held. The cipieinns held by seine OR
these points were certainly visionary and imptacti..l
cable.; but, at the same time, they, shanld.not chalk
of dooming to severe punishments those who held
different doctrines. Though he was against Ant Mal
Parliaments, he was not therefore to be undeastood
as setting his face against a salutary Reform in. Par,
liament. The Septennial Act he always thought Ae
be a direct vjolation and infringement of the Consti-
tution of this Country. If any thing could have jus-
tified it. it was the consideration that at the time that
Succession to the Throne was in danger; but when
that danger ceased, the Act alsouha have expired of
itself; and, therefore, in point of right, the country
ought to have been placed in its former situation in
that respect. If say thing were wanting to confirm
his mind as to the general loyalty and good disposi-
tions yf the people at large, it was the consideration,
that tit no one instance. while subjects GI such mo.
!mucous importance to the public were in agitation
and discussion, did any disurbance or violent conduct
take place—the subjects were generally discussed with
temper and moderation; and be trusted that when-
ever, that important subject came to be discussed, it
would be discussed in Parliament with the same tem-
per and moderation: Feeling as he did so anxiously
for the purity of 'the British Constitution, he wished
to see• it cleared from all those clouds that damped
and obscured, and prevented it from beingaeen In
, all its wowed splendoer. ,LYndeithese prepossessions,.
. he then epee aof,tce, that he should, on that day,
' forsniglitt "obi)* to' theii Lordships h. motion,
enuring trithe abolitiOn"of 'Sinecure Yates and use-

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