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to until the present, no widow
n on account of tny other pe-
belonged to her; and how could
if the army relied on the con-
niourable provision ?—{Near.)
tat the situation of the country
:onomy. He was one of those
and retrenchment necessary
the State. But was it just to
Widows harsh restraints like 1
ced, when others, without so fair
inued to receive their pensions I
condition whatever ?—( Hear,
he hoped, would consider the
wn merits. He did not mean to
is between the Navy and Army,
idious, and at present unneces-
-ev-r, observe, that in the Army I
achased, in the Navy it was not
eierefore, were the more invio-
lable,beciuse they were always in the contemplation
cf the purchasers. He was sorry to have heard it
sal somewhere, that the sums which would be stop-
pert by the new regulatioNn. ram the Army, should
le handed over era the . ear hear)s
was a measure equally ungracious cc:both the ser-:
vices. It was worthy of iemar that in no one of
the various and useful Reports of the Finance Committee, was this regulation, or any thing -e it, re 7
considered the
commended—(lean hear)' They
reported on number 17,
Army Estimates. They
which referred to the Chelsea Asylum. ey pa.ssed
over number 18, which referred to Widows' Pensions,
and went on tc number 19, in the consideration of
which they recommended to the attention of the
Howe the great latinale to which bounty warrants
were extended. This topic, however, had nothing
do with the iegulation now under the notice of the
Ham. The seventh Report of the Committee al-
luded to the regulation simply as a thing done. Un-
der these circumstance, considering that no recom-
reedation was made upon the subject from the Fl- 1
reece Committee, considering the chaiacter of our
Amin which was more exalted than that of any
artny of any country whatever, ha hoped that the
old liberal allowance would be continued—(hear,
kee,—The I louse would recollect, that formerly these
furs were granted by Parliament without the quas-
i a--fhear, hear, hear)
Mr. J. SMITH observed, that there was one class
of officers, at least, to whom this new regulation
ioald be a manifest injustice. He meant those of
borse.artillery, who each gave up a certain pora
tan of his pay, to make up a fund for pensioning
their widow s—(/ tear, hear.)—Many of their wives
w2rsons of family and education, and certainly,
ia a moral view, their pensions should not be re-
fvt.l. to them.
Mr. F. LETI3, as a member cf the Finance Corn-
rtit-ee, felt it recessary to observe, that the measure
ovstion certainly never originated with them—
(licar, hear, heat.)—The Committee had been fully
raze that there had been many unpleasant disputes
between officers of the army and navy on this sub-
ject. The rule as to both was the same, but the in-
terpretation of it was different, and ag. inst the navy.
None deserved rewards better than the navy—(hear,
Atari ;—but it was certain that the rewafds which
wenr given to them, were given in a spirit totally
eifferent from that with which they were granted to
the army. The Committee inquired upon what this
diqerence was grounded. They found that in the
navy, pensions were strictly confined to cases of ne-
cessity, while no such limitation existed in the army;
and the general feeling of the Committee was, that
it was most desirable to do away, if possible, a cause
of so much heart-burning to both the services. The
expression of that feeling produced from the Noble
*Lord opposite (Lord Palmerston) something of a pro-
mise that an investigation should be made, and some
randy applied by Government ; and hence the sub-
ject lay over forahe future consideration of the Com-
mittee—(Hear, hear, hear.)
Lord PALMERSTON acknowledged, that the
subject was one of an unpleasant nature to his own
feelings, and to the feelings of all those who should
ham to administer the bounty in question. The war-
rant originally issued, precluded from pensions Offi-
cers' Widows having twice the amount of the pension,
through any other channel, for their support. The
more recent order, however, extended the limitation
to four times the amount of the pension, and it was
teitessly stated to be not applicable to any Officers
who were now married. It would appear, therefore,
that no breach of faith had been committed towards
the Officers of the Army. As to the two corps of
winery which had been alluded to, they were alto-
gether under the controul of the Board of Ordnance,
and were regulated in a different manner. His Ho-
tamable Friend had shewn that from the earliest
time there was a discretion in the Crown with re-
gard to the distribution of those pensions, and the
Officers of the Army should have considered what-
ever contracts they entered into, that still it was
competent to the Crown to refuse the pension. Great
anxiety was espressed to know from whence this
measure proceeded. He could give the information
required—it was one of those measures of economy
and retrenchment which government found it. neces-
sary to adopt—(hear, hear). It extended equally
to the Navy as to the Army. To the former au order,
he. believed, was this day issued, excluding from pen-
sions the Widows of Naval Officers, who had in other
property four times the amount of the pensions.—
liherever a limit was fixed, he knew there might be
cases of hardship ; but some limit was necessary in
enter to prevent persons from thinking themselves
peculiarly aggrieved. Nothing could be more un-
iltaxint than the execution of these orders, 01 of the
orders for diminishing the pensions granted to wound-
ed officers, or of those precluding the sisters of fallen
officers from receiving any bounty ; but there were
emulations for which the House alone was re,pon-
ale—(l fear, hear). They were forced on Govern-
ment b./ the language of the House—(Loud cheers
,
'..rts;r4 . Orpo,:ition Benches). They were adopted,
iaa respect tc the opinions of the Commitce of Fi-
r`47:,:o, to v.hom the House had delegated these in-
(Prim Of one thin, at least, there was no doubt,
that there was for the last hundred years a discre-
l?aly power in the Crown, of giving or refusing
ce•P •
pens,,:ns. If the principle was net acted upon,
"Tas!.•-m iaadvei t..ace—(hear, hear. He should
re, agree in the motion.
tnloa,:l STANHOPE said, that i.l-e *ea einre in
.tf:oa was wholly
unworthy
of a ,aie.at r, aion

These pension; were Called a charity ; he was sure
they deserved a better name, and that the widows
of officers would much more cheerfully receive half
the sum, if granted as a reward for services, thin
as a mere eleemosynary gift—(l-frar, hear.) These
measures operated against widows, haVing in other
property, four times the amount of the pensions--but
they might have that amount; and still not have
enough for their families ; and even if some of them
had a sufficiency, it was surely better that a few rich
should have that which they did not want, than that'
a single v.idow should be pressed down "by unde-
served and unjust indigence—(hear, hear, hear.) He
confessed, that he had some professional partiality ;
at the same time he would, hehoped, be always found
to do justice to the navy. It was wished to assimilate
the navy with the army. He could have no objection
to any measure for that purpose, bur he hoped iswould
be in a better way than by assimilating them in hard-
ships. It was not probable, however, an assimilation
could be effected, so long as commissions were pur-
chased in one service, and only to be gradually ear
ned in the other. Ile agreed in the necessity of eco-
nomy. But that only was the real and sound economy
which looked out for the security and honour of the
national defence—that was a false economy which,
by depriving the meritorious soldier of that prospect
to which he confided for the support of his family,
would compromise the interests, and degxade the
character of the country—(Hear, hear.)—True eco-
nomy was a virtue. It retrenched from the luxuries
of the rich, but it would never condescend to conta-
minate
itself with the mites which fell from the tables
of the poor—(This speech teas loudly oheered.)
Mr. CROKER thought it necessary to observe,
that the fund from whiCh pensions were given to the
widows of Naval Officers, was formed of sums which
were -deducted from all the Officers of the Navy. In
order to explain this, it was necessary to inform the
House, that out of every hundred men granted- for
the Navy, there was one man echo was called the
widow's man—(A laugh.) He was afiditiosu man—
(A loud laugh.) The Honourable Secretary was
happy that the subject afforded merriment to the
House. The fact was, that out of the hundred men,
only nineti:nine men were effective—the hundredth'
was a fictitious man—((ontinued roars of laughter.)
The pay of the hundredth man went to the fund for
widows pensions, and the administration of that fund
was confided to a corporation of Naval Officers: they
were obliged to divide the sum in such a way as to
pension only those who were most in want of it. Some
objection was made to the introduction of 'the word
" charity:" but it was the expression which was used
in the original warrant. From the limitation of the
sum, a limitation in its administration was necessary,
and the measure under the contemplation of the House
went to establish a similar limitation in the army.-
-Much is had been said on the subject, he doubted
very much whether the Navy were not better off as
to Widows Pensions. An Officer in the Navy, whe-
ther he was on full or on half-pay, when he married,
entitled his widow to the pension. In the Army it
was differcnt. Formerly, if an Officer of the Army
died while on half-pay, his widow was not entitled
to a pension. In 184 Xi a regulation was made, by
which the widows of officers who died while on haN-
pay were allowed the pension ; but up to this very
hour, if an officer married while he was on half-pay,'
his widow would have no claim on the fund. No'
nich distinctions existed iu the Navy. He thought
the subject on the whole deserving of inquiry; and
for one, he should wish to see it referred to the Fi-
nance Committee—(hear, hear).
Mr. CALCRAFT thought it stranv enough, that
I although a member of the Finance Committee (Mr.
F. Lewis), had so much to state to the House on this
subject, yet nothing appeared upon it in any of the
Reports of that Committee—(hear, hear.)--The
Noble Lord opposite had said, that the House was
responsible for the measure in question. What! be-
cause the House pressed upon the attention of Go-'
vernment the necessity of economy, was it therefore
responsible ior a regulation which emanated from ,
the Prince Regent ?—(hear, hear.)—The House never
recommended such niggardly economy as this. I He
would ask the Noble Lord, whether he had ever
heard, either himself or any of his friends advise,
that the Funds for Officers' Widows Pensions, should
be reduced ? No—they never thought of a piece of
economy so paltry--(hear, hear.)-7When. Ministers
resolved to keep up a large military establishment,
they did not attempt to defend it by argument, and
yet by the reduction of one unnecessary battalion,
they would save more than they could possibly
hope for by a measure of this kind—(hear, hear.)—
There were many disagreeable points of difference
between the Navy and the Army ; in fact, they were
alike in nothing, save the glorious services which they
had rendered to their country--(hear, hear)--Officers
in the Army had purchased their commissions on the
faith that the pensions would be continued, and the
same reason which existed for not breaking faith
kith the Officers who had married, should a'so ope-
rate in favour of those who had purchased their
commissions—(hear, hear.)-.-The sum sought to be
saved by this measure might be saved in a hundred
other ways. 'there was not a large establishment but
I might furnish its contribution to this fund, not as a
charity or a be anty, but as a just reward to the
Officer's Widows--(hear, hear.)
Mr. WILBERFORCE concurred in the Motion.
lie thought the justice of the case applied to all, and
if Officers who were now married should be exemp-
ted from the operation of the measure, there was no
reason nor justice in refusing a similar privilege to
those who had purchased their commissions--(hear).
It was the duty of the House to encourage every
',feeling which would bind the Officer closer to his
country, and remind him of his character as a hus-
band and a father.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER con-
fessed that the measure was a part of a great system
of economy—( hear, hear)—recommenaed by ParH
Barnette, and adopted by Government. When that
economy was pressed so strongly upon their attention,'
they thought it their duty to see that a doctrine of 'I
restraint which was always acknowledged, should be
rendered efficacious. But if it appeared to be the
pleasure of Parliament, that the fund in question
should be administered with greater liberality, he
should not object to it—( Cries of hear, hear).—Yet he
thought it might be productive of much inwriveni-
ence, to entrench upon the discretion which the
Crc a Lad cf issuing regulations for the Army. The

Motion before the noise seethed to hint too feeiiiii;
tory, and as if it dictated, rather than requested—
(Ater, hsonr);=He saw there was a general and a
strong feeling in the House against the measure, but
before he could express himself further about it, it
was necessary, as a preliminary step, that the Mo-
tion should be withdrawn;
Mr. LYTTLETON expressed his great satisfac-
tion at what he had just heard from the Right Host.
Gentleman. He should be sorry to interpose any
thing of a harsh description, and was willing to with-
draw, or to modify his motion, in any manner which
would meet the wishes of the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,'
that the subject would come better from the Crown.
(Cries "1- " Withdraw"—" Withdraw.")
Mr. LYTTLETON.—" If the Right llon. Gentle-
man will engage to advise the Crown to withdraw
the regulatton,l shall instantly withdraw the motion."
—(hear, hear).
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.—" I
presume I was understood to have pledged myself to
g►ve that advice to the Crown":—(hear, her).—the
motion was then withdrawn.

LOAN BILL.
Mr. GRENFELL was anxious to know, whether
the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer would
consent to postpone the further consideration of thy'
Loan Bill, till there was a probability of obtaining a
better attendance of Members. If -the Right Iron.
Gen leman was determined to bring it on that night,
he should be under the necessity of moving, that the
House be counted, as he was desirous of delivering
his opinion on the subject, conceiving it td be of the
highest importance.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re-
plied, that he was always disposed to give every op-
portunity for the discussion of any financial measure ;
[ he should therefore postpone the farther proceedings
lon the Bill in question till to-morrow.
new cut:Rents' RILL. •
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIE-
gum', the House went into a Committee on the New
Church& Bill.
After a minute discussion of several of the clauses
in the Committee, the House resumed, the Chairman
reported progress, and asked leave to sit again on
Thursday, which was agreed to.
COTTON FACTORY REGULATION.
The House resolved itself into a Committee on the
Cotton Factory Labour Regulation Bill.
On the clause that the operation of the Bill com-
mence four months after the Ist of September next,
or on the Ist of January, an amendment was pro-
posed, extending the time for the commencement of
the operation of the Bill, for eight months after the
Ist of September, instead of four.
Mr. W. SMITH objected to the amendment. By
such changes the effect of the Bill might be entirely
frittered away. For the advantage, and by the in-
terference of the opposers of the Bill, the hours of
labour, at first proposed to be ten, were increased to
eAen ; and now eight months were required instead'
of four, by the Manufacturers, to prepare for the
commencement of tlw operation of the Bill. He
istrongly objected to such an extensive acquiescence.
with the wishes of those who had not only opposed
parts of the measure, but the very principle on which
it proceeded, and who, when they could not carry
their first point, exacted all that they could hope to
succeed in attuning. •
Mr. PEEL did not see that the amendment was so
unreasonable as it had been represented : especially
when it was considered that the Bill was likely to pass
at a much later period of the Session than had at
first been contemplated. He thought eight months
not too long for the manufacturers to alter their sys-
tem of labour. There was another reason for the ex-
tension of the time. It was understood that the Bill
affected differently factories worked by water, and
factories where the machinery was moved by steam
engines. This time might be employed by those
who used water to erect engines, as the latter would
not suffer so much from the Bill as the former.
Mr. W. SMITH suggested, that this argument in
favour of the amendment might be obviated, by al-
lowing only four months from the Ist of September
next for the factories driven by steam to prepare for
the operation of the Bill, and an extension of four
months more for those driven by water.
Mr. GORDON concurred in the amendment, both'
because it was not unreasonable in itself, and because'
an agreement was a symptom of conciliation between
the supporters and the opponents of the Bill, the lat.
ter consenting on this condition, not to urge their ob-
jections to the principle.
It was then agreed to, that the operation of the bill
should not commence till the Ist of January, 1819.
The next clause was, that no child should be em-
ployed under the age of nine years—on which, Mr.
SMITH proposed an amendment to make the age 10
years. The House then divided—
For the original clause - - 29
11 For the amendment
—t7
Majority
It was then agreed that no person under 16 years
of age should be employed in cotton-factories for more
ithan eleven hours in a day.
Mr. W. SMITH objected to the postponement of
thy date for the commencement of the operation of
the bill till January next.
Sir R. PEEL thought it necessary to take some
time in order to prepare for conforming to the new
regulations of the Bill. The clause was then agreed
The other clauses were then agreed to, and the
report ordered .o be received this day.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of,
and the House adjourned at a quarter past two.

The estates and hop-grounds at Farnham, belong-
ing to the late Mr. TRIMMER, were sold by auction
yesterday se'nnight at the Bush Inn, and the hop-
grounds brought the following extraordinary high
prices:--A freehold hop-ground, measuring two
roods and 26 perches, 400/. Ditto, three acres and
eight perches, 1,900/. Ditto; one acre, one rooJ,
and 20 perches, SA/.
On the Sd instant there was found in the Braes of
Glenfine, in the united parish of Locligoiihcad
and Kilmorich, the body of an old man, alic,it six
feet in height. From his clothes he had the ap-
pearance of a pauper. It is supposed that he was
overpowered with a storm, and lay for some time
under the snow; there was tu,thing about him by,
which his name or country Lc trALcd.

LA* IA-kkiiiolikik

COURT OF CHANCERY, APRIL orL
WARD di? COURT---JUDONIENT •
TEMPEST V. ORD ; OR TAYLOR V. ANTRIM:
Judgment in this important case being to be pro=
bounced this morning, the Cotirt, loon after nine
o'Clock, was crowded to sleets, Lord STEV7ART,•Se;
feral of the Nobility, and other persons of distinction,
were present. The Lone, CuencecLoittoOlt hii *Sit
on the Bench exactly at ten.
His Lordship began by recapitulating all the facts
of the case as they had come before him in Court,
or were furnished by documents or otherwise, and
as he proceede 1, made such observations, as in his
judgment, the exposition warranted.
His Lordship said he had carefully investigated 'all
the facts of this most interesting case, and had beside
seen and conversed with one of the principal Parties
(Lady F.,. Tempest). He thought there was marked
imprudence in theeionilnct of Lady Antrim; but le
had not discovered btioroof of the 'alleged coilu-
sion on the part of Lord- Stewart. He regretted ex.;
ceedingry that charges of such a nature had been
raised, and so publicly raised, against that Noble-
man, without-any just foundation which he could dis-
cover during his inquiry. Whether upon the decisien
to whichsthe Court might hereafter come, a match
between Liii d Stewart and Lady Tempest might
or !night not be deemed eligible, was not necessary
to anupateby inquiry or declaration now. To ex-
press his own opinion, honestly, he did not see that
it would be a match so ineligible. He was of (ll-
nionehowever, that there were various facts in the
case which required strict investigation ; and, under
all the circumstances, he thought it right to send it
to the Master, who would make his report. His
Lordship was also of opinion, that, considering the
imprudent line of conduct adopted by Lady Antrim,
her Ladyship should be interdicted in any farther
communication with her daughter pending tiie in-
quiry into the case.
When his Lordship announced this, Sir SAMCM
ROMILLY rose, and suggested to his Lordship, that
probibly this measure might be somewhat qualified.
He had no objection, on the part of his clients, to suffer
Lady Antrim to visit Lady Tempest in the presence
of Mrs. Cayes, the Governess of her Lacl}4tp.
The LORD .CHANCELLOR said, he had given this
part of the subject mature consideration, and had de-
termined that all intercourse, for the present, roust
cease between the parties, and until the Court
should make a contrary order. If Lady Antrim
felt herself aggrieved at this, or any other proceeding
of the Court, it was competent for her to come before
the Court, and state such grievance. His Lordship
finally ordered that the case be sent to the Master to
report thereon, and that all intercourse he prevented
between Lady Antrim and her.daughter, Lady Tem-
pest. The case then terminated for the preA..t.
His Lordship was more than two hours in prone ir -
cing his judgment.
COURT OF KINCI:8 BEWH, APRIL se.
SMITH AND OTHERS V. PLUMMER AND OTHERS.
In this case an action had been brought by t` .e
plaintiffs, as assignees of John Kirkpati ick, a beef:-
rupt, against the de endants, as c( n ..pees of a car,,,)
of sugar and rum, which had been brought from !re
Christopter's, in the West Indies, to recover fie ea.
them the freightage of the vessel This case had
before been tried, and is at present no otherwise ire-
portant than for the following decision of the Con:-; :
Lord ELLENDOROUGH held, that money laid - oet
for repairing the vessel, and the wages, was a mere
debt between the Master and the owners, for which
neither the freight or cargo were liable, witho-it a
specific contract; and the other Judges concurs ..g
with his Lordship in this opinion, the verdict for 1.:.e
whole sum of 620/.confirmed.
ADMIRALTY COURT, APRIL se.
VILLE DE VARSOVIR.
This was an application to the Court on behalf of
Lord Cochrane, praying that it would be pleased,
when the.cause came on for hearing, to request the
assistance of Trinity Masters, upon the grounds that
the evidence was 'contained in a large number of
affidavits, replete with nautical questions ; that there
were four or five charts, anekeight or ten ships' logs
produced, and that. the case turned on the relati:e
position of various vessels at particular times, as al o
on the distances of several points on the Coast c.i.
Mit, '%ll width would• be unintelligible to ii e
Court, without the assistance which is now Kays J.
This was objected to on the other side, as being u:i-
usual ip questions of prize, and totally unnecessary
in the present question, which arose on a disputed
right to share in some head-money ; that if it should
appear, upon the evidence being read, that their a.-
sistance was requisite, it would then be time enotrez!li
to make the application.
Sir WILLIAM SCOTT said, that an application for
the assistance of Trinity Masters, in a matter of prize,
was not very common, but that it is impossible to
say that questions might not arise in which their ai-
tendance would be most material. I have had tl:e
papers before me, and think it is a case on which
nautical points are very likely to arise. The Trinity
Masters will not carry their inquis ies farther th,ea
those points which actually belong to their province.
It is very possible that they may be of considerable
use; and if not, the disputed property is too lalge
to make the additional expense an object. Lcr Tri-
nity Masters be applied to, to attend on the sc::-:.nd
I
' Session of next Term.
co.

The honour, delicacy, and inviolable secrecy cc.:l-
- with the Medical Board for the cure of prev,,•).
ing diseases, are manifested from the public corF-
dence it has acquired. :Since the Medical Board. k.is
been established, at Charlotte-house, Great Charlc:7,'-
street, Blackfriars-road, and Woodstock-street, i •
ford-street, upwards of Thirty Thousand 1).16-.:, ••
both sexes have been restored to perfect heap:.,
of whom had lingered for years under the nic,-;.p.!nv-
ful and obstinate diseases, were pronounced incurable
by respectable practitioners, and several discharged
from I lospitals—such are the effects resulting frori
corr.:)ineLl talents !! Messrs. CuerEn and Co. of Me-
dial and Surgical celebrity, aft ti;rty years expc.-
rience in this Metropolis, are coisulteil daily at bv.ri
houses until nine at night, and the poor have adv.,.
gratis, on Tuesday, 'llitifsday, and Sunday morning
until 1‘..! o'clock.—Patients at a dist..:ace,
de crihi
their case, inunediat ly, attended to. All letters ti•
directed to Charlotte-house; ltlacl `: i rs-mad. ► : - .
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