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stn end to. He aid not intend to press this topic
further upon their adordships; but he should have
faileiktr his duty if he had not adverted to it. The Noble
Lord here read a letter. to show that manufacturin
capital was.prevented from flowing. to Ireland by the
disturbances which- prevailed in that cOtintry ; and Irish
capital itiorchileerifriim the Wantry, for he understood
that there were no letr th'an 69 tailbone of Irish eapitei
now in the Funds. There were millions of capital ready
for employment in Xreland. and waiting only the settle-
ment of the Catholic Question. Was he then to be told
that nope but the rich were interested in it? The poor
could never find permanent relief till the causes of
division and disturbance were removes. When to this
was added the important question of establishing some
regular mode of relief for the blind, the lame. and the
helpless, he trusted their Lordships would not refuse
to enter into the inquiry. He held in his hand a
Report which had been presented to the ao,ern-
meat of the Marquis Wellesley; one of the sugges-
tions of which was, the establishment of receptacles
for their maintenance and relief. with the sanction
and aid of Government. He had trespassed already
too long upon the patience of their Lordships. but he
could not omit to quote the evidence of a Gendentio,i
who being desirous of employing a few Irbouters, had
numbers apply who had been without food for two days,
and who were reduced to a condition of weakoets which
rendered them for some time incapable of labour. fie,
pledged himself to prove before the Committee. that
many of the impotent poor died of stetvatioe. He had
dhapter and verse to prove this in anent interstice',
a few of which he • would mention to their Lord-
fhlys. The Noble Lord here entered into consider-
able detail. Was it possible; then, that he should
be told, that be was desirous of opening a shop for
grievances? Was it to open a shop for grievances to
- call upon their Lordships to perform one of the first
duties of Christianity? Addretthig their Lordships as
he was, most, if not the whole, derited their income
front the land, he deemed it impossible that his object
shituld be eiewed in this light. if Noble Lords thought
he orentatel the distrets of the Irish poor, let them o
IM eiamine their condition o* the spot. It was the
dify of assay of elicit Lordships to do so, and when
,daittt, ey *told se* the Irish peasant vegetating In a
state of 'esisteoce %wet than that Of any other haste
Wag oh the fare of the earth
ati we isstitle'en
Yoe tittle i•ate finest takaynne,
MOM It to feet wine snieeni
Thiene, nosy* shako the sofernot to them,
Lad show the heaven more jot.-
He was sere the Noble Doke (Wellington) was inclined
to 'relieve the sufferings of that class of his countrymen
which 'constituted no large a portion of those armies
which he bad so often led to victoty. The Noble Duke
bad acknowledged the misery of that elate of Irishmen,
whose efforts in the field contributed to largely to invest
the Noble Duke with that tank and those bowers of
which he bad so much reason to be proud; and he was
sure the Noble Duke would, in his station of Prime
Minim% be willing to adopt sense measure fee their
relieL iHavio; apologised to the Holies for trespassing
on thetrattesares et•such length. the Noble .ord con-
cluded by moving for the appointmentof a SelectCons-
mine; to inquireieto the state of the ditterssed people of
beleisd. and report thereon to the House.
The Earl of LIMERICK should reply in eery few
words •to the speech of his Noble Friend, and -should
ehdravotir to confine himself to the substantial gouda*
brought before the House. The foundation upon which
his:Noble liiend had-grounded his motion for a -Com.:
ptittee was Iwo* little . more than vogue rumour;
eeptilisdeed, that part of his speech in which hequow6
thaevidencegivenbefote the two Houses of Parliament
threeyears ego. ale was at first apprehensive that it
was theintetition of the'Noble Lord to propose the in-
. tteidactiou of the :Poor Laws into Ireland. A project
more pregnant with ruin than this could hot have been
leentemplated, in his opinion. and he should-at-all times
budgie mined to sesist it. As to the ealamitiesand the
individual sufferings to which the Noble Lord had so
deateroudy adverted, they watered is Eogland•as wellas
ariteland, midis every other fully peopled country. But
ltcspoieto the preseoceof initerlioble Lords who were
Welt acquainted twin [related. sad he boldly asked them
if-they recognized the: general- picture of that country.
tali& had been drawn is such high *slam? With
respect to emigration from • Ireland to this country,
sank it was not to be isonteaded that the-Irish labour,"
hatiolit a tight to come here to seek to-better his cosi
aim; and that the •union between the two Counties
wits to be considered as merely union upon paper.
The poverty of Ireland was owing to the cruel: and on-
jest wildlife of England at the beginning of the coo-
naive between the two eerie:ries, and which was gnat
Wooed until a comparatively recent period. The her'
Creased emigration .of the hush poor-to England:did'
alt -arise from their distress having increased, but treat
ifeefeeilitiesofeouiniunication having istasated. They
wereine all, nor did -*believe-that they wenigeneeally
paupers who came over. ..The Noble Lord .woild• be
**prised to hear, that one of these•eanigrants. a woman,
harierdropped down ow board the steam vessel, thou
was fond in her pocket the sum of 14 :guineas.
laird LONGFORD did • not- resist the motion- for
Peeptity- bedtime be was noe•as -desirous. as any man to
tsilieve the -distresses -of Ireland, • but because be was
.isitriesed it end in no measure beirefioial-to that
eelsittif. The suggestion-of the Noble Rail (Darnley.),,
sitardieg•dle Poor Lark was in itself -Impracticable;
Wet ..the' mere htformation that !an thoreitigation•harl
boo Wmateoced, he feared, would-do infinitely ism
agittS then could - possibly arise out of the labour vet( • a
tiginbittee. In an. early part of the evening -a Noble
liladitHerewoode, whose apaches were •always beard
rrillr -deserved atteatien, 'had pointed out the, evil
of - dineentsitio merely •on a -question of trade—
theluiy os eurei.:-Isot the agitation likely to- beructol
simMil by' ea kittoir y like shot use retonsigendid- would
be-far More -danrroes end- injurious. The favoutite
-ftsetf-Claleatiall was the -pumices for the clue of disc
itiressibet be lay 'me Mews• thought char the nostrone
voila be eireettial. although mesh pitias had been mikes
to,ttaut4t- dome peoples throats. The 'across emir
-litserdravems- more proof of Mr. Puts assertion. that
olleselpeeple:Soke the tenable to think for themselves."
ltotaiseasytottaik of- rights -withheld, and prejodice
iiiirehe *tinting might thus- be- asked- its Ireland;
-bet leaople Pb* suiataied to forsesairopioloa* of their
'isueeilseillleoespubar the rsoirdp ergs not rakulated to
tialetieliedfiitarv'as wita satisfied of the shod mutes-
.l foot*.leratsidat latamtaity :of • des Noble Moser" and
etreasailltint be tooMostaappart th proposition. :
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posed 100 a -desire to effect a radical curs for that