Star.
London, England, 1816-04-10 00:00:00

PRI ,;(I?sti rtLOTTec AN YVITY PILL.

On the Mutton of Mr. fur the House
to go into a Committee on the Princess Charl.4- e's
Annuity Bill, in order that irmay pass through all
its stages this day,
Mr. BROOKE wishel to krow whether, if any
embarrassments or arrears regarding th:l Princes;'s
ptevicut estiblishment should exist, this income wis
to be clogi,,ez! with their lirriidation ? This, fle
thought, uu•,!lit not to be, b:tt etat her Roy +I
ness should be enabled to come into public life per.
fectly free front any encumbrance whatever. II::
al-
luded to lot mer giants made for the estahlidins .nt of
different branches of the ltlyal Ftrnily, wir ch cot
hving adequate to the discharge of previmis
brances, as well as to support the splendour ir which
they were panted, left these illustrious persolaes
surrounded by di:T;culties ivhich they bad never been
able lc, overcome. House ought, on this occi-
sion, to take care that there sho,,ht be no debt arising
from the -oit:F,t, which might diminish the annuity
intended to be granted. A full and sufficient stun
ont'ht to be i;ranted .tt) prevent any accident of t4i*
kind.

Mr. I.USIIINGTONI 'hid, he believed it was
filly understood, tram the tomer statement of his
lti.l:t Hnnour:bl•: Friend, that the sum Agreed to
f.)r the outfit 'would be fully ad.:quitte to the pnr-
'pose.

Sir It. HERON observed, that wishing to he
teerfeetly.lileral towerds her Royal Highness, as the
f
i House :tee the Committee ought to be, lie had agreed
with all the prepositions that Ministers had brought
fin we'd hitherto in her behalf ; boa he would, net
a iree to any thine farther. He was nt. opinion frost
, • ,
,isly the ir ym:,l what had been proposed woulei
I be ezeeedingly imprudere and impeTie ; end he
l hoped her Royal High:we and. her *mended husband
'would contours theinselves to keeping within whet
liad been granted by the liberality of Parliament.
, This liberelity was no new :retitle ; it had been am.
ply and steiicieetie shewn at atierinies, and towarua
every member of the Royal Famile, ated what WAS
granted ought to be :Melee! by. Fie heti therefore
i.ever voted to any sum to liquidate arretts *Het
could not be justified ; nor would he, as long as ever
he lived, ever give a vote for the paymt et cif one
fartieng ut the debts el any Prince, or any Minister
elive or dead—(Thar,' hear).
The Howse then vent iete the Committee, and An
;he Resolution for gran, ittg the Annuity !.ring re.ei,
Mi. BROUGHAM said tie did not rise to met:e
the sneieest nbjectio 1 to the grant, but to accolie
some imormatien. It oueht to he distinctly under.,
*stood on what priticiele this annuity was to be grenteele
Now, what he wished to kr ow was, a lietherill. this
an:emit, tee ..4-.30.000 was to be !;ranted out of the
Civil List, weich, as it list been understood, leis been
;.or some time appropriated to the .establishment of
tier Royal Highness ? Surely it was not intended
that the 4661,000 a-year should be added to the other
£ee,ooo ; for the House, in agreeing to the former,
could never have thought that the latter was to be
added by a sort of flde wind. This was of the very
last importNuce to be understood;' otherwise, while
we were thinking that we were voting £60,00(1 a-year.
it would turn out that we left an addition to the Civil
lest of 4'30,000 mere, front which it could not be
'removed without an Act of Parliament.;
MreLUSIIINGTOrii thought there could be no
doubt that the Eeteteee was intended to be the whole
of her Royal !Ugliness's Annuity,' and it was deemed
the most convenient form that this Bill should em-
brace it. '

Mr. BROUGHAM replied, that this was no an-
swer to his question, as to what was to become of the
£30,000 on the Civil List. If it was found necess.
•
sary
to come to Parliament to pay off the amen
which were admitted to exist, let the thing beedonit
fairly andmenly, and a prohibition thade makini
up the deficieney ; but do not let the Illtistrioui PY
lie under the suspicion of receiving hallas muchsniote
as Parliament had voted to them, while it might be
intended to put that proportion to a different purpose.
It gave him-the greatest possible pain to be obliged
to say single word that might look like an attempt
to throw an obstacle or an impediment against a sub-
ject, in which every man felt the deepest interest,
and when he must wish, as far as in him lies, to ten-
der Lis dutiful homage on an event so gratifying and
auspicious to the whole country : but it now clearly
appeared, that instead of giving A'60,000 to this
illustrious Couple, we were actually giving ,830,000
to the Civil List.

Mr. LUSHINGTON repeated, 'that the impres-
sion was, that the stilo,ooo a.year •from the Civil
List, was to be dispensed with ; of course it would
no longer be a burthen upon the public.
Mr. LAW entered into some explanations, to shew
that the additional grant to the Civil List, on ac-
count of the Princess Charlotte's separate Establish.
ment, as it now exists, was only i 86,000, and not
830,000.--• (No. no).
Mr. BROUGHAM was afraid, after all, his state.
meat would be found right. There had actnslly been

paid 'IMMO a-year in one way or the other; and
the Home was now about to vote 5660,000 mere.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY thought some alteration
should be made to eztlude.this thirty thousand pounds
from the Civil List.

Mr. I.USHINGTON said, that this could be ar-
ranged when the Civil List came under discussion—
(Hear.) The present criestion merely had reference
to the annuity of her Royal Highness. T'ue thirty
thousand pounds in the Civil List, so far as she was
concerned, would cease, and the public would have
the benefit of it.
Mr. BROUGHAM disliked allowing this matt&

to stand over hr discussion until a tuture moment.

_ .....
Parliament was now employed in making a grant of
a;xty thousand pounds to the Princess charlotte, who
had thirty thousand pounds already orithe Civil List.
Why not add thirty thousand pooch' to the present
sum, or distinctly make an appropriation ? it, to
place its benefit to the public beyond all qiiAtion ?
Mr. W. DUNDAS urged, that the public were
relieved from this sum, on her Royal Highness's re-
ceiving the larger income.
Mr. CA LC It AFT said, that when a proper expla.
nation arrived, they would all be found to mean one
avid the same thine. He could not but regret the
absence of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. It was
the first time in the areals of Parliament that a grant
of that nature was proposed for their consideration
by a Secretary of the Treasury--(Hear.) It was
due in common respect to the station of the parties
concerned, that the Chancellor of the Exchequer
should have submitted the proposition ; for, without
meaning any ill compliment to toe Honuurable Gen-
tleman opposite, who seemed to know nothing about
the subject, the House might then expect to receive
some information. But as the matter now stood it
appeared that the Princess Charlotte was to receive
Ler sixty thousand pounds annuity, and the thirty
thousand pounds she previously enjoyed was, instead
of falling to the public, to revert to the Civil List.—
The matterought now to be set at rest one way or
another.—[Here Lord Castlereagh entered the
House, which Mr. Calcraft perceiving, he imme-
diately restated his view of the case.] The Honour-
able Member then proceeded to inquire in what man-
ner the reversion of the thirty thousand pounds was io
be secured to the public ?—(fareer, hear.)
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that her Royal
Highness's lot mer provision was partly taken out of
the Consolidated Fund, and other charges were paid
ont of the different departments of the household.—
Those would now fire tarts, create a saving of 34 or
d 135.000, 22 or d)23,000 of which would go to the
improvement of the Civil List. The state of the
Civil 'List could be hereafter discussed. The provi-
sion made by Parliament for this fund was inadequate
during the war to meet its charges, but as thibalance
was provided out of the Droits of the Crown, a per-
minent regulation of its funds would be advisable.
Mr. CUR WEN was as desirable as any man could
be for unanimity upon a question of this kind, but
the Noble Lord had now pretty roundly said that the
Civil List was inadequate to its ex pendi e—( Hear.)
Whatever clay be the opinion of the Noble Lord on
this point, he (Mr. Curwen) trustedthat no man at-
tached to the Prince Regent, or who valued the ne-
cessity of his Royal Highness's cultivating the hearts
and affections of his people, would be found in the
present state of the counts to recommend his Royal
Highness to come down to the House for an addition
to his income-.-(Near, hear.) It was a matter of
deep regret that those arrears should exist ire the con-
cerns of the Royal Family—but he, for one, would
feel it an indispensable duty to oppose any pecuniary
advance to those personages at a moment like this—
(lleac, hear.) Tire House would totally neglect its
duty if it aid not follow his example. Were the re-
trenchments of his Majesty's Ministers, he wouldl
ask, in any proportion to the reduced state ,ot the I
country ? This continuance of borrowing must soon
stop, and economy, instead of being in the ratio tat
thousands, must be in that of millions, or a national
bankruptcy must be the consequence—(Hear.)
Mr. LAW restated his former opinions
Mr. LUSHINGTON adverted to what had fallen
froth an liononrable Gentleman opposite (Mr. Cal.
craft) and admitted, that if he could have contem-
plated a debate, it would hive been presumption in
him to have made the proposition in the absence of
the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He telt no reason
to depart from his opinion, already expressed, on this
subject.
CALCR AFT said, that want of information
created the debate. Was the £6,500 a year, which
bee Royal Highness received out of the Consolidated
Fund, to be deducted from the present increased al-
lowance ? _

Mr. LUSH INGTON—•" Certainly."
Mr. BROUGHAM said, this accounted for six
thousand five hundred pounds, but what was to be
done with the balance of £23,500 ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
replied, that the Princess Charlotte would receive an
annuity of sixty thousand pounds in lieu of her former
allowances. The thirty thousand pounds from the

Coil List would, of course, go to meet any excess
th4t may arise. It was clear, therefore, that the Con.
dblidated Fund, the Lord Steward's, the Lord CIIAM
berlain's, and the Master of the Horse's department,
would berelieved from those charges, and in the pro.
,portion of their amount would the excess that the
irablic Might hereafter be called on to pay, be of
course reduced. This expenditure made no part of
List year's, or of the present estimates—ilrey were
merely in the Extraordinaries.
Mr. TIERNET.—It seems that the Consolidated'
Pond will be relieved from 6 or 47,000 to which
her Royal Highness's former establishment exposed
it. 't he Estimates, it is said, did not recognise the
item of 412,000 in the Lord Steward's department,
wor the 810,000 in the Master of the Horse's depart.
silent, nor the additional charge in the Special Service
account. From her t.oyal Highness's charge, these
stands, it appeared, would be released. This WAS
ifilbt end proper; but his
.(Mr. Tirney's) objection
*eta to the manner of doing this. He did not like
40 see this constant departure from the old, but in
,the minds of some men, exploded practice of ("ming'
to parliament ipstead of the Consolidated Fund, for
aid for the Royal Family. Is the rent of a house
for her Royal Highness to be deducted from her
annuity, or added to it ?—(The Chancellor of the
Exchequer said 6, .iVe," across the table.)—it was,
his j Mr. Tierney's) opinion, that in grawing the

large sum they had given, it was intended that her
Royal Highness should maintain a great degree of
state, should keep drawing-rooms, and other ceremo-
nies suited to her rank. Bat he now found ship
Camelford House, merely the residence oT a private
Gentleman, was taken for the Royal Personages. In
this view of their Royal Highnesses establishment,
the proposed grant was certainly too much.—(Cris
ti Hear, hear, hear,)—and nothing less than a waste
of the public money. He (Mr. Tierney) would give
liberally to see proper splendour, but he would be
niggardly if privacy was to be the station of an Illus-
trious Personage, who ought to have an opportunity
of associating with those over whom she was one day
destined to rule. Is it, or is it not, intended that her
Royal Highness should hold drawing-rooms ? [Lord
Cattlereagh made no answer.]—Then it was evident
that hie Majesty's Ministers had given the Prince
Regent's daughter in marriage, but they did not tell
his Royal Highness what was to become of her after.
Hear, and a laugh.)--Did any one doubt that she
would be the heiress to the Throne of these realms?—
none. Then why is she not allowed to possess suit-
able Court etiquette and ceremonies ? On this point
the Noble Lord indicates that he will give no answer.
“ Then," said Mr. Tierney... I will give no money—
though I must admit that lie can easier hold his
tongue, than I keep bit k the money. ( Much laughter.)
If the Princess Chat lout is to be immured in the re.
tirement of private life, this annuity is nothing less
than a profligate waste of the public mioney."—
(hear, hear.)
#):
Lord CA3TLE:REAGH recalled to the Houss,
that this grant wai quite distinct from the question
of her future manakonent of it. The Right Hon.
Gentleman opposite (Mr. Tierney) had, by the vio-
lence of his gestures and the dramatic effect of his
action, formed a sort of comedy olit of this subject ;
but lie (Lord Castlereagh) felt no wish to take a
part with him in the play—(Hear, hear, from the Trea-
:toy Bench)—on the contrary, lie would confine him-
self to the real matter befidre them. The annuity of
460,000 was the wilole sum of her Royal Highness's
grant, except perhaps a residence for the Illustrious
Personages in the country, which was their own
001 M As to the suggestion for the establishment
of rules and regulations in the disposal of their own
income, the comments of the Right Hon. Gentleman
were merely the insinuations with which he usually
indulged when matters of this kind were under dis-
cussion.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. TIERNEY was perfectly indifferent to the
imputations of the Noble Lord. He might indeed
corn those insinuations to account elsewhere, but their
operation would nut deprive the House of the advan-
tage of discussions like the present.—(Hear, hear.)
He would pursue his own way in discharging the
duty he owed hi: constituents, quite unmindful of
such language as he had just heard. He (Mr. Tier-
ney) had asked the Noble Lord a simple question,
with reference to the son of state which her Royal
Highness was destined to hold. 'lb this he gave no
auswer—taking special care, however, to adopt an
opposite course when the answer would tell for him-
self. (Hear, hear, hear). He felt no hesitation at
hinting to the Committee that a country house might
be waited—(hear, hear,)—but he declined giving
an answer to a far more vital question. (Hear, hear).
There could be no difficulty iu pro:uriag a suitable
residence for her Royal Highness, out of the number
of unoccupied palaces which covered the face of the
couutry. (Hear, hear.) There was nothing until
now about a country residence—when the subject
first came under debate, a town residence was aii that
bad been talked of, and he (Mr. Tierney) then pro-
posed the Ordnance Office, is Pall-Mall, an ed:fice
suited to any extent of splendour, sbeaides the advan.
rage (no small one in these times) of its costing the
public nothing, for the Ordnance business could be
transferred to that fine building the Transport Office,
,which, though just finished, wss a little too late for
public use. (Hear, hear.) If a country residence
were wanted, why not tetain.Cranbourn Lodge, or
transfer the Grand Lodge, or The fanciful Windsor
Cottage, which, after all the money expended on it,
had never been made use of ? There could be no
objection any of thee plans ; any decision would
have been better than that which appeared decided,
-namely, to destine her Royal Highness to a life of
privacy, and with an enormous (at least for this
mode of living) sin unnecessary income. It was a
part, however, of the modern system, that expense
should be in a certain quarter annually increasing, in
the same inverse proportion that the acts of Royalty
which met the public eye became fewer and less con-
spicuous. The recommendation by which the present
grant was regulated, appeared to him the most inde-
cent proposition that had ever been held out to the
House or the country.—(Cheer:.)

Mr. ABERCRODABY declared, that there never
was so direct an insult given as that which the Noble
Lord had just directed to the House and the people.
(Bear, hear.) The question which the Noble Lord
had refused to answer, was not of less importance
than this—whether the presumptive heiress to the
Throne (for such, under the peculiar circumstances
of her father, she certainly was), was, in the eyes of
his Majesty's Ministers, in the direct line to the'
Throne, or but a simple member of the Royal Fa-
mily 1 and this was the question which the House
had no right to have solved. (Hear, hear.) He
(Mr. Abercromby) would assert, that the House
had a right. o have this question answered ; and that
when the Noble Lord refused to give this infurina.
lion, and at the same time asked' for an annuity of
/60,000. be offered a palpable insult to the people
of England. hear.) If the Princess Charlotte,
must live pia privacy, what necessity exists for her
having a larger income than the Duchess of Cumber-
land lute/ We ask, under what character she is to
haw more/ .and.can receive no answer.—(Hear.).'
The idea that we had nothing to do with the con-,
cerns of the Royal Flintily, was a -new doctrine in.
the Constitution, and its assertion a public insult..
(Near, hear.)
Lord CASTLEREAGH sajd, Le might safely
leave to the House the consideration of this subjento
They would, he anticipated, think with him, that his'
Majesty's Ministers had nothing to de with the future,
Private concerns of her Royal Highness, of whichd
they could know twitting. (Hear, Aran) As to
the station in which her Royal Highness legally I
stood, that could not be altered by his Majesty's Mi-
nisters. When she is is possession of her income, it
Is doubtless at her own disposal, and he /Lord Cis-

dereagh) was not there to answer for her mode of
disaibutmg it. .
Mr. BROUGHAM saki, that the discussion had
been oisconceived—the Gentlemen at his side of the
House had merely called for the mode of expenditure
that was in contemplation. not from idle curiosity,
but because they were called upon for an annual
grant of 460,000. If her Royal Highness was not
to be distinguished from any other of the Royal
Princesses, why confer upon her more than £20,000
a year, their allowance ? (Hear.) It was in vain
to draw subtle distinctions on the subject of her rank
in the State--the chances were more than WOO to
one, whatever may be the strict presumption of law,
that she would one day fill the throne of these realms
....she was in substance and fact, though not in law,
the heiress apparent to the Crown. (Hear, hear.) In
fact, there could be no other reason for conferring
upon her this ,splendid, but not too splendid provi-
sion. Again and again he (Mr. Brougham) would
disclaim any intention of reducing it, or of impeding
the progress of that auspicious match which was
now on the tapis ; but it was his imperative public
duty to scrutinize every sort of expense. The
Noble Lord had said, he was not in posses,ion of
her Royal Highness's intentions; but he e ell knew,
that. in a certain quArter, he had eve.ry facility of
acquiring the necessary information. State she
ought to have, and an opportunity of ascertaining,
by her own judgment, the character of that people
over whron she was destined to rule. It was in
vain to expect she could support her proper sta-
tion in Camelford H ruse. lie had the greatest
respect for that house laugh,)—he meant for
its possessor, but it was quite inadequate for the splen-
dour which belonged to her Royal Highness's natu-
ral station. Hitherto it appeared, and this was to
him a matter of great astonishment, that her Royal
Highness, living, as she had been, in the most pri-
vate manner, with less of comfort, and he feared of
convenience, than any of the other branehes of the
Royal Family, or nine out of ten of the Nobles, had
yet in this comfortless mode of life spent £37,009 a
year.—(Hear, hear.)—Now if she had, by the gross
mismanagement of chose about her, expended such a
sum, what could be expected when, with an increas-
ed establishment, she had only £23,000 a year addi-
tional for its maintenance ? But the fact stated,
really appeared to him quite impracticable.—(Hear,
hear.)—He felt so strong the necessity of further in-
formation, both as to the £90,000 of the Civil List,
and the future regulation of her Royal Highness's
Stablishment, that, for the purpose of receiving far-
ther information, he would move that the Chairman
do report progress.
Mr. METH IJEN, before be went to a vote, beg.
ged to ask, whether her Royal Highness's past in-
come had liquidated her current expense, and if any
thing yet remained to be cleared off ? As to her
Royal Highness's future expenditure, and the cere.
monies which may belong to her rank, he would
leave the adjustment of those to her own good sense
and judgment.—( Hear, hear.)
Lord CASTLEREAGH replied, there were no
arrears, and that her intended income was to embrace
her whole means.

In consequence of a suggestion from Mr. METH UZN
that some delay was necessary—
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that out of the six
er £7OOO during her Royal Highness's establishment
in Warwick Court, was paid all the Ladies in atten-
dance, and persons connected with her education,
and he did not see Irw any inference could be raised
that there had been eery extravagance.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY was of opinion that a clause
ought to be introduced in the Vll, for the regulation
of the funds with which her Royal Highness had
been supplied out of the Civil List and Consolidated
Fund.

Mr. LYTTLETON said, that according to the
mode apparently arranged, a grant of £21,000 was
made to the Civil List. Ike disliked those steps
after the outfit which the Wince Regent had formerly
got. The country was unanimous in reprobating
such proceedings.
Mr. FORBES was of a similar opinion.
Mr. W YNN would not concur in the opinion that
the private affairs of the Royal Family were not to
be scrutinized. The House had a. right to inspect
them.--(Near.)—As to her Royal Highness's recent
establishment, until to-night it was conceived, that
Lai, y Rosslyn, and her other female attendants, re-
ceived no remuneration for their services.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that the Act of the 52d of the King regulated
the appropriation of the Civil List, and provided for
la deficit at £124,000 a year, which, deducting the
income of r£6O(X) to the Princess Charlotte, would
leave £llB,OOO recognised by Parliament, and which
it had engaged to make good.
Mr. TIERNEY shortly observed, that he protest.
e 4 against the mode of argument used by the Right
Han. Gentleman.

The amendment was then negatieed, and the ori-
ginal question carried without a division.
The SPNAKER having resumed the Chair, the Re-
port of the Committee was brought up, and the Re.
solutions read and agreed to.
On the motion for the third reading of the Bill—
Sir R. FERGUSSON asked the Noble Lord op-
posite, whether, at the time of erecting the Electorate
of Hanover into a kingdom, any alteration had been
made in the constitutional principles relative to the
sucession ?

Lord CASTLEREAGH was trot aware that any
alteration had taken place in Hanover, respecting
the succession; but he declared himself unprepared
to answer every question that may be proposed to
phial, relative to other kingdoms.
The Dill was then read the third time, and passed.
A Message from the Lords requested that the
House would be pleased to communicate to their
Lordships whatever information it may have possess-
ed relative to the expenditure of Ireland.

The request being acceded to,
The SPEAKER informed the Lords' Messengers
that the House would return an answer by a Mes-
senger of its own.
Mr. lame brought op a return of the quantiv of
coal andculm exported from the harbour of Liver.
pool ; and sdso of the quantities erported from the
Principality of Wales to-other parts of the kingdom.
—Laid on ,the table.
A Petition was presented from the Island of Ely,
inCambridgeshiree praying far a revision of the Poor
Laws, which in,thcir present state Jsvased with ea-

creme severity on the agricultural
red to the Agricultural Committee.
Petitions were presented from the ,
riers, and Shoe makers, of Carmarthen,
Newcastle-upon-Tyne, and Montgorrie,
the Leather Tax.—Laid on the table
Mr. A BEV CR.OMBY presented
the occupiers of chambers in Lin(
against the erection (if a Court for
ccllor in the Span!, which the
sented to be injurious to their interec
ing the free circulation cf air. "
referred to the Committee fur thl
Vice Chancellor's Court.

Mr. NEWMAN presented a Petition from their
habitants of the Parr,li fit Sloth Brent, and tweh
ootfhtehrePia,irtiisihees.s in Devon, praying for a comruutatp,

Mr. Par-wort and Mr. Ct:awEN expresald than.
selves favourable to the principle of commutati.):'
which should, however, be examined wtth calmee,,
and in a manner calculated to remove 4 very natura:
alarm from the minds of the Clergy.
Mr. NEWMAN attributed the increase of sectJ
ries from the Church of Englani, to the diyleasul
which the present system of tithes raised in the Nisi
of the farmers against the Clergyman. The pep
were therefore desirous to have Meeting houses, that
they might not be compelled to meet him.
The Petition wa? .hen hid on the table.
Mr. CA ECRA FT presented a pe!i!ton from At
Licensed Victuallers of Deptford, Dartford, and
other places. praying for a repeal of the additioto
duties on licenses.—Ordered to lie on the e,,te,
Mr. CUR.WEN wished that an order, made a feiv
on his motion respectin the steps taked
t
fornmigi
might
carrying
since,
discharged,into
effect
ats he intended heplan
to substituteo Man 4,
another. The order was in consequence discharged,
and the Honourable Membet moved--" That there
be laid before the House a copy of the instruction,,
Government for carrying into effect the plan of Cap.
rain Manby, for saving sailors from shipwreck."—
The motion was agreed to.
A report of the fees received in the Navy Office,
an account of the expense of victualling ships, arx
also an account of the exchanges of foreign nation;
were laid on the table.

Mr. WARD laid oa the table a return, of the ntut
ben of Barracks for Cavalry, and of the Contracts fa
the Ordn3rce Dep/rtmenr.
Mr. Scrjcant ONS LOW rose, in pursuance of L:►
notice, to move to- ieave to bring in a ELI to
the Act of the Si and 4:h cf Wiliam and Mary ;..
and also r. similar Act for Ireland, of the ;
Anne, enti!ied—g, An Act for affording relief to cn
ditors against fraudulent devizes." His ~beet w.
to give to creditors the same facility of recoveriL
their debts by action against the Dzvizees as they ts,
joyed against the heir.
After a few words from Mr. PRESTON, in la.
your of the Bill, leave was given.
The Bill was brought up, read a. firs; time, and
dered to be read a 2d time on the 2i;:h of April.

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GENERAL REGISTRY CP DEEDi,
Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW moved tor ieavt.. to brim
io a Bill for the estahlishmen of a General Resistri
of Conveyances, Deed', and Wills, asTectinr
property in every County in Great Britain, rum
York and Middlesem. lie would not propose to re r.•
der such an cstabiishment compulsory ca every
county, but would leave a discretionary power to the
majority of the Magistrates at tlle Ql.ater Sessions
to Accept it not. It was unnecessary for him to
inform the House, that formerly all conveyances
were made public, or to state why the system had,
hceu altered ; but the question was, whether the
evil should not be remedied ? He commented on
the advantages that had resulted to York and IC.
dlesex, from the establishment of Registries, and the
convenience that would arise to the nation in general
from giving publicity to all conveyances, and show.
ing to kosaide purchasers on what security they aJ.
vaned their money. At presenemuch inconvettienee
was felt, by the difficulty of raising money bymort-
gage, which would be obviated by the adoption of
this measure. He then concluded by moving for
leave to bring in a Bill in furcherence of the measure.
Mr. CROKER spoke of the advantages derived
to Ireland from the establishment of such a system,
and conceived it must be of equal utility is this
country.

Mr. PRESTON argued.on the futility of such an
establishment, which be considered to be a class of
confusion, attended with difficulties,
Sir F. FLOOD was astoeislied to hear ohleetions
urged against the principle of the Bill, and partitu•
larly from a Gentleman of high professional charau
ter. tie commented on the great advantages wand
Ireland derived from a similar establishment. and
concluded with giving the proposition his hearty
concurrence.

Mr. Serjeant ONSLO%V hoped that the Horton.
rable Member (Mr. Preston) was not influenced in
his objections by an appehension of a diminution in
his professional business.
The Bill was brought in, read a first time, and or.
dered to he read a 2d time on the 26Th of April.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER, the Bank Restriction Bill was read
a first time, and ordered to be read a second time to-
morrow.

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The Bill for granting certain allowances
Duties on Malt and Beer, was read a first time, sai
ordered to be read a second time to-morrow.

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AGRICULTURAL COM Mil TEL
Mr. WESTERN moved, that the Order of the
Day for the House resolving into a Committee al
the Agricultural Interests, should be read..
The Order having been read accordingly,
Mr. WESTERN said, that in the present thin
state of the House, he end not feel himself disposed
to go into the Committee on this subject. The na-
ture of the business before the House, he ford,
would not permit him to go into the lull consider'•
Lion of the question before the holidays. He svg-
gested, therefore, that it might be prudent to rot:.
pone the Committee till after the recess. In the in•
tetim, the Housf and the country would have an op•
portunity of observing the effect which hAd been pro-
duced by the measures which had already beell
adopted by his Majesty's Ministers, towards the re.
lief of the agricultural interests—and of considti;ilg
what other meAsures, might be 'adopted with the
same view.
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