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fore to give the home manufacturers the advantage of
his vote for the continuation of these duties.
Mr. MA BERLY trusted the House would feel the
necessity of being governed by some filed principle ;
thirty p r cent. had been stated as the maximum. On
no account, theielose, could he agree with the Right
Honourable Gentleman in upholding a tax beyond that
rate -for-thertimtectinn of the home manufacturer.
The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER said
the Honourable Gentleman was arguing on a princi-
ple which he knew did not apply to this question. the
Honourable Gentleman knew that the Bill originally
introduced imposed an ad valorem duty of thirty per
cent. but afterwards a rated duty was substituted,
higher than thirty per cent.
Mr. C. GRANT—Yer, but that effect was not in-

tended.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
he knew not what the intention of the scale was but
the obvious effect of it was a considerable accession of
duty. This was not a question* pi inciple, but of ex-
pediency.
Mr. C. GRANT denied, that in making the transi-,
Lion trom the ad valorem duty of 30 per cent, to the,
rated scale, the duo, had been intentionally increased,
or that knowingly the increase had been admitted. We
had no such intention, said the Right Hon. Gentleman,
or consciousness. Uur intention was to adjust the scale
on the rate of 30 per cent.. As. far as we did deviate;
it was urconsciously. The Right Hon. Gentleman
stated that he supported the amendment, because there
was an uncontested case made out that a duty of 60,
and 65 per cent. was imposed, when it was intended.
that it should not exceed 30 per cent.
After some titiservations by Mr..COCRTZWAY and Mr. Frtza, the
Committee divided. The numbers on each side were 26.
Sir A. Guam the Chairman of the Committee, gave his vote
. for the amendment, which was therefore carried.
A second division took place while. we were absent from the
Gallery. The numbers were again precisely the saute, and Sir A.
Guinn had again the casting vote
Mr. HUME complained of the injustice of levying a.
duty of 30 per cent. on India shawls, while the same
article was admitted into that country from England
at a duty of 2i per cent. He moved, therefore, with
a view to reduce the duty, that the mention of shawls
should be omitted.
• Mr. OOURTENAY admitted the facto stated by the Hon.
Gentleman, but denied the adviseableness of the reduction.
The Amendment was then withdrawn; and the several other
clauses being agreed to, the Report was ordered to be brought .up
tomorrow.
The House then went into a Committee for the purpose of
takintinto further consideration the postponed Resolution relative
to the Duties on Sugar; namely, to admit sugar for the purposes
executing, at a duty of 295.
• The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed, that
if was only an experimental measure for a year.
The Resolution was then agreed to ; and the House having re-
sumed, the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow.
The Butter Trade (Ireland) Bill went through a Committee, in
which it received several amendments. The Report was re-
ceived, and ordered to be taken into further consideration on Mom
day; and the Bill, as amended, was ordered to be printed.
REPEAL OF THE DEAD WEIGHT.
The HOW then resolved itself into a Committee-on the Military
and Naval Pension Act. • •
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
that the measure commonly called the Dead Weight
had been under discussion in the Finance Committee,l
and there it was no longer argued that it was useful.—
In 1821 the great pressure on the finances-of the coun-
try made the Government anxious to find ui any
means to relieve it. It was accordingly proposed to
obtain this relief by creating an annuity which should
spread the charge over a space of forty-five years. He
did not wish to enter into any discussion of that ar-
rangement, but the remit of the Finance Committee's
inquiries were to recommend the removal of the-mea-
sure as too complicated, and as introducing confusion
into the accounts. Toere was at present, he believed,
po difference ut opinion on the subject, whiCh made it
unnecessary for him to go further into the
.question ;
but when the Bill for repealing the Au was-brought in,
there would be an opportunity of debating it. He
should ooly'move, as a Resolution, that leave be given
to. tiringin a Bill Inc repealing the Act passed in the
third year of the K.ng, relating to the Naval and
Military 'Pensions, and for providing for the payment

thereof.
Mr. HUME heard this motion with great surprise.
It had already coskthe country a large sum; and before
it would expire, it would cost the
country upwards of
4,000,8001: He was surprised that Mr. Vansittart should
balm been allowed is procure the passing such Acts as
these; but for this suit rf service he had received a
pension and a Peerage.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUBR de-
fended his predecessor against what he thought was a
personal attack by Mr. Home. 'The Noble Lord had
not been actuated by any culpable motives, as the Hon.
Member seemed to supposi. The loss on the measure
arose principally, or altogether, Irons the rise in the
Funds, which his Noble Friend could not foresee, and
for which he deserved as little blame as he would have
deserved praise had there been a gain instead of a loss.
Mr. MABERLY said a more mischievous or inju-
rious measure never passed that House than the Act it
was now proposed to repeal. it was a fraud on the
country. He hoped such a measure would never again
be brought forward ; and he believed it would not, for
it. was unanimously condemned. The Hight Hon.
Gentleman, he believed, would never follow such a
course of proceeding.: It wacinjuriods, also, in conse-
quince of the annuity being purchased by the Bank of
England, as t made the in send notes into circulation
whack they had no means of withdraiving. If they had
sold this annuity as they mice had contemplated, during-
a panic, it would have oaused an inconceivable injury
to the country.
Mr. LES PER compered heartily in the motion, for
amore absurd meastsse never was brought into Par-
liament.

• The Resolution wes•then Ggreed to. The Heine resumed, the
Report of the Committee was brought up, ilesee was given to bring
in a all in the some of the Resolution.; old a hill was. aterailinglY•
ordered to by brolight in.

SAiligile SA mu.:
The Report on the Saving Basks' Bill was lirouglikqp. On the
ensitian that it be read,
LEWIS rose to propose an additional clause
The Right Hon. Gentleman expressed great apprehen-
sions lest when the sum vestell in the Natbnal Debt by
the Trustees of Savings' Balks became great, /here
might be, in consequence of a rist ir..the rate of interest,
or a panic, a sudden demand for this monoy, and the
country be exposed to great danger. The clause die
should propose, therefore, would be to limit the sum
vested by Saving,' Banks in the National Securities.—
When that amounted to 20,000,0001. he should propose
that the Commissioners for the National Debt should
not be authorised to receive any more, and that the
Trustees of Savings' Banks should be authorised to place
the money entrusted to their care wherever they thought
fit. The Right Hon. Gentleman also objected to those
parts of the Act which limited the amount each indi-
vidual,might deposit in them.
Mr. BENETT thought there was no danger to be
apprehended from the wing being invested by Friendly
Societies ill the National &entities.