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had seen. • , •
What Was it you had seen and represented? Imo her
Highness tpalkitto in the prifte—/Aircensi was neer and
alls—l Nets then sets a Spy at de haw • t Naples. I bad
so frog's England, and :hottest it necessary to caution her giro
Ilighness as lo any outward' appenrance that- Ought
:trued.
Was it by, letter you received.thia information from
Yes.
Was there.any other person in. the garden but bor leer&
• Highness and Berpmi? She said there was. I dl4 potpie
any one else, but I could not see, for ske walked on therterreen,-
which was much .highei thin'the rest of the onion: Thers,
might have been other persons. I cannot tell ••• " * the tie!.i
race was near the small cabinet cobtiguous to
for I was never MAWR _part. if the 'Orden.. „.
which I saw theta, wikthe terrace en the.
ihrapartment of the tally in Waiting is-thee the
iiudy Elisabeth. Forbes. The terraceftem which I saw art was,
bifher than that on which she walked. It was the only time
lever saw her Royal Highness and Bergami together. in the
*edam: This might have been a month after non tirstiardrelel
Naples. The Princess said there were workmen there at the
.time, and that she had taken 13ergami to speak to them. 1,
do not know what the workmen might...have . been employer'
about. I did not leave ber service tiU she quitted Napins
such thin; ever happened as Bergami'a coming into the room
where Sir W. Gall and I were, and taking a
.chair. No such
thing ever happened, and I newer stated such a thing. I have
beets very often at the Theatre of San Carlos, when in waiting
upon her Royal Ingham. and often when not la widths& and
then I was nut of her party. I never but *ace was at a Mas-
querade while her Royal Highness -was at Napks. During the
whole time I wag at Naples, Bergami waited at table. Th.ne
was no other Courier. Illeronimus was a Page when not tra-
velling, but a Courier when he was travelling.
Sistatitted by their Ltsvlsh4as.
Lord EItSKINF---if at the masked ball the dress of her
Royal Highness had been indecent or immodest, must you have
observed it?—l mast:.
Lotd ERSKINIL.seltlid you see anything of the kind?.—

The Ihnourable Kerret CRAWLY was ,scat culled.
Examined by Mr. Premix.
In 1314, was In the service of the Princess of Wales as one
'4: her Counitierlains. I)id uut haw this country with her
licy4l Ilighuesi, but joined her at Brunswick. Aceom-
p.e.icd her from thence to and afterwards to Naples.
'.i. en. he (Mr. Craven) joined her Royal Highness, it was under-
cot d that he slitmlu only remain as long as his affairs would al-
low him. lie remained in her Royal Highness's service six
r.ontlts • but it was not at first expected that he could remain
r: than two or three.. When he arrived at Naples, he found
t the could remain longer than lie originally intended, and he
OA.; reninu rout mouths logger, • Remembers that after leaving
1:11an a pirson who was employed as courier to her Royal
Ilighjess, was discharged from her service for Ws cu:iduct,
and that, in cousequence of that,lte appiledlik the Marquis de
Cpiztlie3liii to procure anothet. The Marqslifaientioned a per-
son, whom he aftetwarda found.to be ohs& Alersami.
IWargeds recommended hint as a person fit to be received abd
crustal In the service of the Princess; he recolltrocaeVina
%cry strongly; he &italic had known his family a great while,
and th.:t he was much interested about them.
The Ring; Sotacaao.e.-G Estee!. objected to this course of
examination. Wlrat the 'larquis de Gizelieghri said to the
wittiest could not be evidence. •
Mr.. DMIAN said, that it was most material that every
thing that p#+atl_on this .ocrasion should be known. The
preamble of the Bill "of Pains and Penalties recited that
Bergami being a person in a menial condition, ace. hzd been
elevated, ilte: and if he cnuld prove from the mouth of the wit-
ness, that Bergami had been recommended by a person of the
high. st respectability, as being of a respectable.family,
milli:ell ut cjrcumstances, and one, who, from his conduct
and pftnciples, nfas fit to be promoted to a hi her office
than nut he s Aicited—if he could shew that her Royal High-
tes, Intel testi reasons..for that promoting of the man whichis
maw idtputi.d to her as a crime—that th‘se motives were pure
whirls Were said to have been criminal, surely he could not be
slim out from an enquiry Waich embraced so much of the very
essence of the case.

Niroilriocceenaeoas. proceeding to support Mr. Demme, Nothing whatever. . ,
whesa he was az:tempted by Lord ROSEBERUY.—Was the advice you rave her Ma-
The * LOIVI.) *CII.INCFLLOR, who observed, that he jest), about William AuSun followed or not ?—I understood it
anetele stopped the Counsel for the sake of saving time, and to was; but I was not in her Royal Highness's room to ascertain.
observe that theugh it might not be strictly televant t:1 catmint 'I know one piwae where it was followed, in Gerineny, to my
tile et:eerie nedatorbot the sLiquia de Gizaliegbri said to him, knowholge.
73'' "'hue" might ' asked w".° sae reported CO therriaoeesao la Lord GROSVENOR.—De you think the manners of Her-
i-oviog been' said by the Margins on reconnutouatioa of DIN- gami were superior to those of au ordinary Courier?—Yes.
goal.. .ant Mai id tnia way it would become evidence: - fu answer to some quesdons front Lard ELtatimosovon, Mr.
Mr. Devatax thanked his Lordship for the suggestions sad Craven stated, that the maimers of Bergman, while courier,
said hr weual shape sus questions accurditgly were nattier servile nor fawning, and .that on his elevation,
Examination, resumed.—Did not know anything of Bergami
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they were those of a gentleman
before be was recommended to him by the Marquis de Gize- Lords 1 ae0..r00r,., FALIIIANAO: DA TAViLST, Doitooomploas, Ea-
laeahrla- Comintinicatedto her Royal Highness what the .61. tr. scum, Gaseous, Leuimanaaa, and Betannut, successively put
sans had said of Bergami-elat he was a person he wishtd to questions to the witness. The substance of his answers was.--
eacoaunenti to the situatioa of Canner—that •he had bee.i ac- That he had alvised the Princess of Wales to be Minima* in
quainta'i woh Ins family a long time, and know him to ha v-ry walking with Bergami, solely inconsequence of the letter he
fit forthe situ..tion—that though he recommended him to that had received from England ; that he would have given her the
situation, he hoped that it be banaved well be would be allowed same advice with regard to, any other servant. Did not din- 1
-to remain in th 1 family. and as a servant out of livery, when her cover Pram Bergami s manner or appearance that he was of mean
LoYal-Iligeo-st stopped. at spy Place; and that he (the Agar- origin, or one that had been raised from a low to an exaked Ma-
t:pais) wished to be of use to all Berger:ire lOW* and to anon. Was not wan the Princess when Bargami was promoted.
Largarni iii lenticular. Remembers *that whet AV -Prih"--- ' When he spoke of the mintier' of Berganii, he alluded tjailint in'
nos approached Naples, her Royal' Higitneef teal litet a short' both its capacities, of courier and chat:lawman ; never agwvalla'
distance front the char by the new King and Ciaaell of la-' his manners at any period ineansistent with thoseiof a Gentleman.
pks. Entente. _Naitets on the Sib of November, about half Tne Princess, while at Naples, always had some of the upper
an hour before dusk. The Princess and suite went to a house j servants to sleep near her, to guard her ; sometimes Itleronimus ;
which had been taken for her Royal Highness. Found that it he also thought &card. Witness went to Pesaro last year. Amu
was very 4mo:were:in, Sir William Gail and witness bad very • vita was not introduced to him, Vat, acoonpanied by Wint=i
bad beds ; chore w 4 Out by may means room aim% for the bmeglia a message to the Princess. .Did not observe
whole suite. Sir William °ell and witness agreed to pay any attention to his (Mr. Craven's) servant, nor dabs know
take lodgings elsawherr as soon as they could procure them,
if the servant was in the room. He (witness) sapped with bee 1
and this was we only _ease of their leaving her Royal High- Royal Hisitnesa ; there were presses several persons; bodies*
cos's hotel. Toe Kiag and Queen of Naples called on the, Count arena was one; did not know any one met. eke
hincess .the nay afar her arrival.; on that day the dined at youth William Austin; remembers a Lady sung at the enema
Court. After stoner then: was a concert. Her Royal High- of her Royal Highness, but be did not know her prelusion.
I,:z.a rem:twee there tall half past 11. Left ilk concert with her Before Bergami was engaged,
Mr„, award was enalopeg mow
Itayai Highness. Oil the evening of the second day case Queen quire into his character. Sagami was first engaged as maim i
1 olat to the opera ; all her suite accompanied her. Wean first earn/sods was raised to the rank of eognoberigio •' kw. did nag
motto the Palace, and front the Palace with all the Court thew know of any other rewards bang muterred upon him. When
retinue to the Opera. Her Royal Highness sat in the state the Princess walked on the terrace, Liergami walked behind
boa with the Queen and King. The Nark* eon- her, areservanas generally do.
tames always to a late hour, and the iZraacess at
remained to
tat list.. Thinks that ea this occeatio it must have lasted Enortiaation of Sr Wu.uis Gases :
I,nger Man usual, as it was later than usual in beginning.— Sir MGM,. Gel was called in, and, alter being beirsigini With
1 itr Royal Highness and suite remained till the curtain a char, on account of the gout, was sworn ; sad being esemined
airopped. Remembers a masked Ball given by her Royal by air. Wuniama, stated, lam Chamberlain to her Majesty
Highness, in compliment to the King of Naples. Her Royal the Queen. I have bee* in her service ever since a month be-
Hialuiess assumed three dresses on that occasion: ewe was a fore her quitting linglend. I accompanied her Majesty to
Turkish dress, the second, that of a Neapolitan Peasant, and the • Brunswick, and afterwards to Italy. I remember a Cow
third, as witness,was told, was nteaut to mamma the Genius ; tier being discharged at Florence; but do not exactly keel
of History. Saw this dress of the Genius of History fere short whether I first applied to the Marquis Gizelieghri for a Courier,
time on her Royal Highness. Was asked If it was in the smallest bet be recommended Bergami as a proper person • he said he
I degree indecent or improper? Answered, " Ido not recollect bad known his family, which was reduced, but jut he knew
that it was at all bidecer. It was a dress of white drapery, him to be honest, faithfuls and honourable - that he was above
which came very high up. . the situation of courier, but he hoped the; he would soon be
When lierganu attended her Royal Highness from Mawto advances, if he behaved well in the family of the Queen, of
Napks, and during the time he combatted in bet service, did which be had no doubt. The • Marquis recommended Bergami
you observe any impropriety or &India' familiarity between -to the Queen.
her and Bergami ?--Never. Mr. Wu.i.maus.-01•1 you at any :time sue the Marquis GI-
Had you dined subsequently at the table with her Royal selleghri and Bergami together, or see dim Imo In the
...estave?
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Ilighneis and liergami?—ies, three times. Upon any one el Mr. Pease objected to the questions • .. • -
those ocredons I never observed any impropriety between them. Mr. Demme defended it, and said Meek winds act of jus-
-1 have seen the Countess of Oldi ouce. - a the to the inuividual who was libelled by the Bill before their
Is she a person of vulgar manners?—No. Lordships as a person of mean °Oyu, and to sheer how be had
Had you any convenatiort with her Royal Highness bean been received by the Austrian Representative at Milan. - -'
she arrived at Naples, about William Austin?—Yes •.1 think I Mr. WILLIAM followed on the seine side, and contended that
told her, before we came to Italy, that it would be ;ell if her the manlier in which the Marquis demeaned himself at that
1:o1 al Highness would direct that Williatu.Austin should so .time towards Bergami, was evidence as to•his respectability.
Lagar sleep in her room. . • Mr. Prins submitted that the manner in which the trigs
liad you any reason far giving that advice?—l said that the treated his servants, could be no evidence of Bergamrs
eeople of Italy might make observations, as he was of an age ability, but merely the opinion of the Marquis.
iaat might give rise to observations. believe he was . about After • some observations from the Loan CIANCIELLOS 11114
Iturls at the time. I dined frequently with her Royal High- the Parlor LresseooL, .
loe4/.when she had company. Amongst her Royal Highness's. Mr. Wmazams was allowed to ask if witness had ever seen
company I very frequently saw Baron thnpteda. I recollect the Marquis Gisetieghri and Horgan' together?—Yes, .1 saw
'.l'headore Majoechi ; he waited at table every day when there Berganii, while in his Courier dress, met by the Marquis in the
was company, and Baron Ompteda had many opportunities of -public streets. The Marquis threw his antis round the neck of
a. aiug him. I went to Rome soon after the death of his late Bergami and kissed hint twice. This we thought very re-
fl.:lL:Ay, and waited upon the Queen the day after my arrival. rnarkable. The custom of saluting each other was &common
Ewan Reding was the Hauarverian Ambassador at Rome at the one among Gentlemen in Italy.
Erne: The Marquis Giselieghri was dead at the time. Examined as to the Priectee's entrance into Naples, and the ,
Cress-exaseimed by the Sotaciroa-Greece. events tkat occurred there, he confirmed in everything the state.
Ido not recollect exactly when this conversation toobplace, moat of the Han. Keppel Craven :—The dress which the Prin.
but it must have been soon after her Royal Highness left Lon- cess wore as the Genius of History, was similar to that of ilke
seen. - Tue recommendation 1 had given to her Royal Highness Hope's statue of Minerva. When the Princess passed the leeks
time through Rome as Qmeena the witness beinktbrale, eenealailt,
about William Aunin was Stith reference to Italy, and was
meant prospectively. i saw the Countess Ola once at Pesaro, his attendance as Chamberlain to her Majesty. On that samba
at dinner. 'Dui first time 1 dined at table where Ler' gami was, non, saw the passport given to the etaren, and signed by bire
snits in Pesaro, where 1 also supped. The Last time was at distal Oansalre Secretary of State to his Holiness the Pope.
;bun. It was the slay before I left Rome. I parted with her That passpenawas left with the Postmaster at the first stage.
Royal Ilighneas at Rome.. I took no particular notice of her Asked to state how it was made out?
Royal iheketaa's dress at the masked bad. 1 saw it bat a The. Arronner-GseasiaL objected to this question obitwo
sear: taut, gad bad no time to notice it. Ido not recol- grounds : first; liecinne uti parole teitimuny was adruiasible as
l, CA S.:1:11:g ale:gand at the ball, but all the suite were aNere- lo al./mien document ; anu second, because It had no relaticm
lum sin, go to uar Royal Iliglintaris room at any period of that to toe Casco •
evemag, 4.14 cannot say whether her Royal Highness had taken alr. afevasam answered the objection. Ile conceived that.
tiff sew um,. :o put tan aaineer. At Napiesair W. Gall end, accolsoug to the strictest rules ut the strictest Courts, parole
I aleu uut of th_ arms.: the whole time, with rite etc ration. teatimouy Wee adutissible as to a wiltten document, wnenthat
1;.-- twa fir-t dive. We dined in tic nagoe we took obi' document itself could !tot be Traduced; and the wits* had
‘.-.i•i.•g ... tiara. tfhe room in which we waitcu was at the-le,„ ',seated :nut the passport ui qamouli had been left Mali Me post-
Lao.: .6. ..w., i.xnus from that of her • Royal highness.. I knew ;letter. .44 to iill.isaililoll to too QM, be would Mew that, tirtae
u.., .1..14 u. we ....I•Jdati..., of therouroa at \aplef,. wide* ex- passports, her alejesty lied been designated merely by the title of
ct,a...a u. al., . ..., ...ai trait et the Laay in. Westing. Ne;buig Princess Caroline of Brunswick, or of Englanoi; that the e Seene
.. . .., ~ ..0.....,e,,,eaguit oeu room fot bora rely Of has alubnees ale Pope had, 'eve thin- it at Pestwo arid
~.o. .. i o :"..: ..g. N.c,-.1:5.• - • kieka::ies was onaught torward, thoyabt fit, of his own autbo-
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