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we had to protect and maintain our Om in other
countries, and therefore the Executive must not
be too unsteady and precarious. The inconveniencies'
of Elections, as they now occurred, was a price we
paid wisely and willingly for our liberty. He would
not detain the House longer at this late hour; but be
hoped the House would not agree to the motion of
the Honourable Gentleman.
Sir R. WILSON was in favour of the motion. The-
People had a right to such change and such im-
provement in their Government as changes of cir-
cumstances, improvement in society, increased know-
ledge, and increased property required.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE said, the question of Re-
form must be submitted to two tests, those of safety
and expediency, and by those tests he would try the
present proposition, to which he had a fundamental
objection, as he thought it a total departure from our
Constitution. He wished for a revision of the present
Fstem ; he would adopt the proposition of a Noble-
iend of his (Lord J. Russell). With respect to the
influence of the Government in the House, it had in-
creased, and would continue to increase, owing to
the patronage given to Ministers in the collection of
the Revenue, etc. and as a balance to thar influence,
he was anxious to see the right of election taken from
decayed bodies, and given to populous towns, still
preserving our present form of election.
Mr. F. PALMER supported the Motion.
Mr: S. WORTLEY agreed that many Members
were returned by influence ; yet he was ready to con-
tend, that only in its present state could the House
carry on its inactions. The rotten Boroughs, he con-
tended, were a part of the Constitution, and were ori-
ginally intended to give the Crown influence in the
House! It was necessary the Crown should have
that influence. If the House was made more popular
than it now was, he was convinced the Crown and the
House of Lords would soon be dispensed with!
Lord BURY supported the Motion.
Mr. MARTIN (of Galway) opposed the Motion:
He was persuaded, if every one on his side the House
were to walk out, and leave the question to the Mem-
ber for Durham and his friends, it would be negatived
by a great majority.
Lord MILTON was convinced the treat mass of
the middling ranks of people were in favour of Re-
form in Parliament. Still he could not support the
Motion of his Honourable Friend, which presented
as many and as great difficulties as those it was in-
tended to cure.

Mr. WILLIAMS, as a friend of the BritiNl) Con-
stitution, was anxious to purify it from whatever in-
cumbrances might deform its purity. AU the mea-
sures known by the name of jobs, had been carried
by means of the Members for petty Boroughs.
Mr. HONYWOOD was in favour of the motion.

The CHANCELLOR'of the EXCHEQUER rose, on the
question being loudly called for, and observed, that u there was
no chance of closing the debate at that late hour (one o'clock),
it would be better to adjourn.

The debate was accordingly adjourned till to-morrow.
The other Orders were then read.
The Report of the Timber Duties Bill was received, and the
Bill ordered to be read a third time on Thursday.
Adjourned at a (btarteo-past Ooe o'Qoek.