Star.
London, England, 1829-02-24 00:00:00

yuCa.tOrlia ii.tei Whist: au) WI., %tic a 'Coelite4 (.1
tneni. B Its wete brought in first, and they then
tittered into an aleph'', it appeared mph's that that'
woulif be a new wet°, taking'llselee.tion into cons-ii
ligrassba:'-'llThetftresi Oust:imps 'peituris. who had ad-
dredged thak L'•rdships that evening Wad every right to,
givdtheirlsresit, or
.)o stare their objaillaos to the
nlifitsPre i&ufto biri-inrsodioced. Ift4 whether the op
position to his M .jesty's Ministers should or should not
be characterised as factious. he (Lord Eldon) had risen
for the purpose of saying vat 'be would do his duty—
las duty to That House and to the count I—and that
it *moat present his conscientious conviction that he
should 'tappets' these nreasUres, it thee should *be such
as he imagiiied they 'ertould be: Bin d'he misetlatieired
Acne 'measures, he should be as glad Man to the
country. it it were Mond necessary t 4 obi. eby tl em,
provided that they were consistent with the Coniptitutiou
of the country. 1
Earl Otttlf believed' the NoblirEarl would not be.'
,deten lel from what he believed to be his duty by any
dread of the imputation of faction. But it would be,
well if all those who entertained the same opiniOns with
theliohie Earl would conduct their cause in such a
mariner as not to deserve the imput.tion of factious
views. H 5 in the course of his life bad suffered by the,
unjust imputation of factious views. sod he should be
therefore the more reactant to cast 'Lupins others. But
in justice to the lllustrious Duke, he must say that his
complainkof the manner in which the question had
hitherto been t eateJ was not with ut foundation. He
did not allude tot e daily publications by which the
country was daily disgusted. H- referred to what had
been had thatAight in that House. Noble Lords bad
a right to resist the propo•ed measures. but they should
not res st them in sue'l a manner as to threw firebrands
throujght u the coil, try. Was it, he asked, within the
legit:l4l4:e Means ot o;ipasition. or did it deserve the
name oflaction,. to say that the King could nut consent
to a rrisaoireerh eh:Parliament had. approved without
breaking his Coronation. Oath and violating his con-
science ? r r to sntimate, as a N able Lord had done on a
unmet-occasion, that by complying pith the solemn de-
termination of Parliament he would ft..iileit his right to
the Throne, and relinquish it, not into the hatitia of Par-
liament from which it bad sprung. but into those
of a Foreign Prince. 9f the House of Savoy
These things he had bend,_ and they were calcu-
lated. not to convince others of the impotency of
the, oreasute, but to produce animosity in that Iloute,
and in the country tie WM and bloodshed. The quo,-
tit;it wee one which required and deserved to be
treated with temperance, and not to be described as
a question whether the country was to remain a Pro-
•estant or to become a Popish country? He was sure
the lilusttious Person who had used this expression bad
useantOnly to convey his own conscientious conviction;
and if he could make out his assertion by argu nent,
nobody *maid be more reluctant than I iniself to agree
to the proposed measnre. gut he, implored him to
,consider the effect of s ich denunciations upon the
country. Tae Noble and learned Lord would have the
opoostunity of roguing in 'whit of his opinions, and
at the proper time he (Earl fire)) would be ready to
show that all the opinions he bad ezptes,ed wittirepeet
tease iXws of exclusion .as fundamental laws of the
Stoics/id essential parts of the Constitution. were tui7
flooded. He had the greatest regard for the learning
and ability of the Table Lord, but he mat at the,safte
time.be allowed tp say, that 11; had not the same respect
fur all his opinions. His objection was hot to Uttt
opposition, but to the manner in which it bad Imes
conducted.
The Duke of WELLINGTON agreed with the *olle
Earl aid others, that these discussions were worse 'bap
uselas, and they tended to increase the agitation upon,
this sulect without any sufficient cause. He was
perfectly aware that any measure of this kind he had
to propose would be opposed by the Noble Earl os
the Cross. Bench
,(Loyd Eldon). and • he regretted that
it would be so opposed. The Noble Esti said .he,
should find him a generous enemy. As an enemy
he never could regard tbst Noble Earl. Hi.never
could allow his mind to revert to his former habits 'of
public and prieate interconrse with that Noble Earl,
without &dim, that whatever temporary diffeienee.
arise hither Houseornhits.eould alter his respect
Jor.the Noble Earl's opinions, and his iegard for hip ,
persoa.
_He had ne,hesiiatioso in repeating the alsettion,
that the letter to which the Noble Earl alludes, uterr
was intended tote published. That letter, how ever, the
Noble Earl asserts. was calculated to convey the ins.
'rasion that the Huu.e bad been taken by surprise,
and that it was not his intention to bring the Catholic
tioestien before Pailiament. Now, as nearly as he could
recollect. that letter, contained vie same opinion be
bad delivered at the clime of the last Session of
Pailianient. Hp denied that thete was any thing
At: the letter calculated to deceive a sin4le indi-
vidual in that House, or in the country. Um mea-
sures he attended to introduce wete not yet made
.known, and he should not, therefore, dwell more upon
this subject than merely. to observe, that discussions of
.this kind were to be deprecated, as directly contrary to
the express recommendation contained in his Majesty's
Speteb, that they should come to the consider lion of
the question of the Catholic Claims with a temper and
moderation calculated to ensure a successful issue to
their deliberations.
The Earl of ELDON, in explanation, said that bed d
not inspite.any improper motive to the Noble Duke;
he measly said that the country had been taken,by say
Past when they beard the Speech from the 'flume, so
soon ate; the letter which had been so improperly pub-
' tislsed., No man, he repeated, who had heard the No;
ble Duke's speech, at the close of the last Session, could
have anticipated such advios to his Majesty as that
contained in the Seeds from the Throne ; but at the
same time, be admitted that the Noble Duke, althoui;h
be did not state his reasons, was at liberty to change his
opinions, if he saw reason for that change. As to the
Noble Earl (Grey), be bad always found him a Me and
hoseurable antagonist, and be had always endeavOttred
tr* ptirsile the samaPourse on his own pert.
The Petition was thsa 1.14 cas she table, •
Earl GREY had to present to theii Lordships the
Petition of the Roman Catholics of Englan.l, alloy
which bad soundly devolved upon him for the haft
yeari. • This Petition was.most numerouslyxigtsl ...It
,had the signatures of all the Roman Catholic NAsiliky
of England, and almost aU.the Gentry, nod • .*es 'per.
'sons Ai-respectability of that peraitraskrorp Toe Noble
'sari proceeded is urge, at totasidetabie length.. upon,
the ,attention of the liolute,.ehe evil% o f a divided.
!Government and a divided people. • The Petitioners
',complained' of the ,calumnies directed avant their
•lersets as Christians. their opinions as men. and their,
'conduct as citizens. a griataoce produced by the des.
'qualifications ender *bids tire, laboured.' arnl which
,ladled traall.the otherinjuoies the present state of the
slaw ~inBieted opoo them. lie hod beard something of
l'this Mod from. a touter ia ;abaci& Christian: charily
!might have been expected. TAts Eight Revereid ?to
bat:stigmat'utd .the CatholistreUgiou a; the Devrool
14iiiok mace- of 4posieulity sad cuite. w Hfgirl I
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