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London, England, 1817-06-20 00:00:00

lster, bat beyond thst,wlytt power had they?* (,q,ar,
:Irv.) Could noi-,ters do without the Pato:mon
for any length of time ? He really nevtr !!e. •.1
weak an argument. How ftr could
of the Habeas Corpus Aet b^ called N z
the Constitution ? He heard it said in cervett.,77..,.,
among a certain class of persons, that :%e
passed there would be .an end of the Cor
the liberties of every man in the kingdom tt•otild
at the mercy of INlittisterv. WAsth,tt
from the Opposition Peoches, ? kle "'mild t.•
was it the fact—( Renev.ed cties
He understood the cheerieg of :he Nellie
he would still affirm it %vat "-It the f mt. It i: c 0,4,1
be supposed that the Nott:e 114 rr
Lord, from motives of pi•••.ltertnionr”--iii: c..••:•‘•
an individual, and pot litto in t pr. for : n

against the State, there, I e ionritted, he n .• • .•
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under the power conterred te,t tit it Act—r, ...,
1.,e; on the Or/mut:on).— Bili, 2! I 6.2 saint: [lit', . ;
such a thing be imagined ! If tote po•on: P., .t e o.t
lan absolute repeal of tile I ow oi: 11.0,.0s eorr ~.. 0..,
Mead of A ternpteary saspensioa, there might p• ssifO4
be sense temptation to induce 4 MalliStet so to deo—.
But WAS II lii Illy to happen, while the power eboet
to be granted would he eaercoed 'older the respoesi-
belity that now attached to Mitiisters i He firm:a
believed that the Suspension was net, eti the shelve,:
degree, liable to produce the deptivatitai et lit,erty
to any subject in this country, who!' ought to he
preserved, Or could be preserved, without pl, judite
to the general liberty of all—(ilear, h.ar, he,:rj.—.
, The Noble Lord who preceded nim, mid ti.n,.: ethers,
on the present and former eccAsions, had tattoo! about
conciliating the people. Conciliation, AI tar as it was
just and proper, he should be ready to adopt. But
he would not humour the peniA r, by grant:ng who-
ever they might lie instigated to ask. It was meet
absurd to do so. lot every thing he done, the. volt
be done, and let the people ;:t`P, that so notch was
done ; but go Ito eirther, flattery was mist! it-7.
ous to every man— (I-Par) —Who among theneeloo
could lay hit hand upon tiO hear'; and say lie eiri! I
withstand flattery ? He believed no one ; and it itele
with the advantages ct edneatien, and the p‘ver of
ratlection derivca from editeattoo, could net do se,
well; was so.be expected from the p eple, who leaf
noel• of those advantages ? - Ht2IIIOUT them, said the
Noble Lord, and you will dertroy thefts. Exocete•
-inns would be raised, which never could :le sati-F.e t.
We had a good Constitution ; such m one as existed
in no other saitietry in the teurld ; and 1.. e d'd net
think it coed,/ la dertreeed by six er eight moe-O,s
suspension et o c Habeas Cerpiis Alt. Se bleield,
therefore, vow: for the TIM d Reading ef the Bel—
Wear, bar.:
The Marquis 'A' Er.x.rst. Fs: began by 6rere;rre
that he had net Oe v intty to thit.k that he to•ed he
any flattery perplex the underetendine, et- ch inoe !to
opinion of the Noble Lerd who had lot tp•ikei 7 o.
though, from an early acquaintance with hur, letec'i
perhaps the Noble Lord had now fergotteu, he et-
tertained a sincere respect ter his tater:is. his Leo..
ledge, and his integrity. But tie wootst no; a. .e.,:,,
the people of England as the Noble Leo! eto a-
scribed them; nor would he bele•-ve that it sr is il ti.e
power of any man, however excellent hie ch.:et-Jot :
great his talents, to flatter them either into r,-7 Or.. 1
donment of their rights, or a belief that th o was I
right which was not so sehstantialle. Tee N•
_Lord had evidently referred to some h tog wh”.‘ Ii f
been said on the subject of Parliantenooy leJtatii ,
but he would at least do him the justice to Acknwr-
ledge, that he had been always adeetse to any vionge
in the Constitution of the other House of Parliament.
From the first period of . his raising his voice in puto
17c, he had resisted every attempt of that nature, and
he should not now have alluded to the subject had e
not been with a view of repelleng the attack of thic
Noble Lord. On the first slay of the eresent Sessiott
he }tad described the new principles of reform, acd
the doctrine of universal suffrage, as a gross &Oa•
sion, which it had been endeavoured unctircesstglly
to practise upon a people for whose understandinps
he had too high a respect to suppose them capable if
yielding to it. Whenever such principles should
gain an ascendancy, revolution would me be merely
commenced, it would• be con:plc:et!, and en end
be put to all the subsisting forms of our mixed
Covet nment, monarchical, aristocratical and reale.
He repelled, therefore, as well for the linble berm
behind him as for himself, the insinuation that they
had humoured the people at Ale reeetines wi:h
such notions, or had deluded therm with these idle
theorles—(Ther, hear.)—Put he had been iu to=
degree divested by these remarks from that moreealm
orinsideration of the sobject before their Lordslt
:efhieli was 60 eminently due to its idspottance.
portant indeed it must appear to his mind, when he
Odosidered it to involve not oaly questions of law anal
justice, of liberty, and every description of Folic!,
but to be in itself a question of pnbhe beam'', rising
above file region of Perti, e one where no pasties
and no prejlidice should intrude. It ..as in the prt-
sent oage of this awful question that he desired 3
state hr sentimous respecting it. The previous die
cusions upon it hart been able condacted on beta
sides; and, indeed, by ei-r. Noble Lord who sanest
him, had been conduitted with toff:ter:dent abilito
Many new lights had been fuinisce, notch additional
information produced, the boundaries, the nature and
character ascertained, of ,that danger of whiete
these was before no definitior, end reliefs was them'
fore alteadiul twin its obseistity—(Near, itar).-.•
The I Luse now came to the distamen of this vet
tion, with serve distinct informatiort as to the I'm"'
tature and cloirecter of the c'ar7ers, and it soot abei
to a certain extent. a clear view et tee rp:ratiniv of
the Suspension Biii upon_ that danger. Those whe
now met the Noble Lords opposite in tl.e errors:
epos, this rocaiure, needed no longer to rely eio*
lieoe statement or eaglet conjecture; they wee! ei` e
to bring fact against lace, and to geapele hanoo.i'
hand firm its plinciple and eEects. The Ye' e
Lord who last t ,;(1:. W.ill Willing SO c•lictdc. becois.-
he saw ro prr,siect of abuse -. but I:e (Marctils Wtit
lesti:y; viewed the qiu-,tion 1,1 a ter different light.--
In cfc.ens::ing tfis [Treat subject !..e sho-.od frvt re-- -
der the 124 i nature Or choract.7ir of the earttr-.r. 7
mischief as it tea; serretirncs called, and eloott:
?nigh or might not be p:evented or cirri-viol lo ".
existing latao, ircluding amerg those loco -. ••
recent act regarding seditiene asoroldio
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conOly, he should inquiro whether that dalie.e o •
that peculiar system ut mischief, reel le !...
by arty thing ot well as the sae-0oz; kiseo— , .1 e i