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W EDNESDAY,

PAR:LIAMENTAA Y PROCEEDINGS,

HOUSE OF LORDS, DECEMBER 14.
"Mr. WALLACE accompanied by some other 'Honourable
Members, brought up the Seditious Meetings' Bill from the
I louse of Commons. •
On the Motion of the Earl of SIT AFTF.SBURY the Malt
Duty Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed
SEDITIOUS MEETINGS BILL.
Ti.. F.arl of LIVE RPM L moved that this Bill be read a
first time, which being agreed to, the Noble Earl said, bellow
should move that the Bill be priqted immediately, and the
second reading fixed fur Thursday next, which appeared to him
to be the most convenient dat that could be selected.
Lord I lOLLAN U was unwilling to stand in the way of any
arrangement, that their Lordships were disposed to agree to, and
should not therefore object to Thursday being fixed upon,
though it looked like precipitation, for if the measure seemed to
be necessary, the sooner hs merits were discussed the hotter.
The Islarl of LIVERPOOL observed, that by this arrange.,
men their Lordships might be prepared to go into the Com-
mittee en Friday, and should there not be sufficient time to go
through the clauses, the discussion on them might take place
bn Monday.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN thought, that the interval,
between this and Thursday; was entirely too short, to enable
their Lordships to give that consideration to the 11U, which it
obviously required; and shouid suggest, that the debate b;.: post-
pcmed till Friday, though the Bill might be read a second time,
on the day lied by the Noble Earl.
Their Lordships agreed to this arrangement, with:ti under-
standing that the Committee should be gone. into on Friday,
leaving the discussion of the clauses for the en; :in: ?.:orday.—
The Bill was ordered to be printed, and the House adjourned.

HOUSE OP commoks.
Mr. FINLAY brought up the Report on the till to amend
the Regulations in Cotton Factories, when the Bill was re-com-
mitted, and the R2port having been brought up and received,
the Bill was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.
On the motion of Sir C. 13 U ItREI,I, the Pearhyn Bribery
bill passed through a Committee, and the Report was brought
up and ordered to be received to-morrow.
The LORD ADVOCATE gave notice, that he wotrld on
Thursday move for leave to introduce a Bill to regulate the pro-
ceedings in the Court cf Session.
Mr. HAIIVF.Y begged to ask the Hon/an-able Secretary of
the Treasury whether the Board instituted to enquire into the
Abases of die Excise and Customs had yet reported, and whe-
ther these Reports were to be laid before the House?
Mr. LUSII I NGTON said, that the Bused of Enquiry had
made considerable progress, 'mil when their examinations were
more advarked the result would be laid before Purliazient.
Mr. I 4 A Iti`EY expr:!4-.ed a hope, that *hen the time cane
to make a motion fur the Papers, it would nut be opposed.
Lord CASTLE Ct EA G II ristponed the second reading 9f
the Newspaper N!ainp Duties' Bill till this day.
Mr. ‘C ALL AG II API obtained leave to bring in a Bill to re:-
I
real the Irish Bankers Act. He then moved for leave to briar
in a Bill to revive and amend certain provisions of the Bid fool
regulating Houses of Industry.
hlr. L. FO%, fEtt opposed the motion, as ttnding to extend,
to Leland the:system of the English Poor Laws.
After some observatiOns from Lord Atenostra, Mr: W. Pay:
NELL, and Mr. C. Gstaxr, the motion Wits withdraws.
Mr. MAXWELL gave notice that on Thursday he should
bring under the consideration of the House the state of the Ma-
nufacturing Districts in Scotland.
ARMY ESTIMATES.
Lord PALMERSTON laid on the table the Arty
Estimates for the year 1820, which were ordered to
be printed. The Noble Los dhbserved that they-were'
but an abstract, as it was not possible at present to
have all the details. On Friday he should move the
usual votes, and on the same day the Ordnance Es-
timates would be presented.
Mr. TIERNEY asked if these papers contained
the Estimates of the augmented forces?
Lord PALMERSTON said, that the expenses up
to December were separate, but in the Estimates for
the ensuing year, the whole force would be included.
In3FEANCIIISEMENT OF GRRMPoUND.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL ruse and said, that it was
not with feelings of satisfaction, that he Jab* vitae
forward to call the attention of tile House tes the mo;
don which he intended tolubmit. It was an 'Shwa.
cOrne and invidious task to tell an Individual his
faults, and he felt that any motion which went to
direct the observation of that House to the defects
in its constitution, was a duty not less dixtessing than
unpleasant. But however great the difficulties were
under which the subject laboured at any former pe-
riod, he could not but be sensible that they had been
infinitely increased within the last year, by the ex-
cessive lengths to which political differences had been
carried; the country was now divided between two
parties, who regarded .each other with an extreme
degree of irritation ; one of these patties insisted
upon unreasonable demands, the other thought of
nothing but giving them a peremptory denial. The
former stood up for impossible claims and imaginary
rights, the latter were willing to throw into oblivion all
those ancient privileges which our ancestors thought
they had purchased cheaply with their blood, merely
to obtain a momentary security. if he felt that be
required the aid of any authority, to prove how ne-
cessary it was to correct abuses of the nature of that
which he had to grokind his motion upon, he could
not refer to one of.moie weight with the majority of.
that House, than Mr. Pitt, who had, in 1763, pro-
posed two Resolutions very similar in their principle
to those.which he intended to lay before the House.
He (Mr. Pitt) had prefaced his proposition by a
speech, in which he stated that the great burden
tahich had been laid on the People, and the distress
which they in consequence endured, had caused them
to turn their eyes upon that House, which had sanc-
tioned the burdens complained of, in order to disco-
ver if there were not a radical error in its constitu-
tion—(Hear, hear !)—Thence had, no doubt, origi-.
nated wild plans arid visionary theories ; but.he felt
it 'his duty, disregarding these altogether, to pro-
pose some measure which would go equally to repress
the dangeroes desires of the People, and the undue
iaHaence of the Crown. That was the spirit of his
speech, but there were some of the words so sttong
that he could not help quoting them. " When an
Englishman who witnessed the flourishing state of
England twpnq yearn ago, now saw it going tZ, ruin
by slow said imperceptible degrees, he could not ar.,
count fur it but by believing that there was some-`l
thing radically wrong in the constitution of the Ile-1
presentative Doily, and of the existence of a radical
error, no one seemed to have a doubt"—(Hear!)-
At this time, indeed, he (Lord J. Russell) was con•
einced, that the opposite dispositions of the two par-
ties in the Nation rendered them inimical to any plait