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London, England, 1829-05-05 00:00:00

TUESDAY , EVENING,; MAY: 5, 1829.

bad signed the paper respecting that Gentleman's health.
Now, Dr. Chaine did siga-that paper; and no physician
-on that ComMitteeiras more perfectly convinced of the
danger which Mr. Boni Maidonnell was 4:nosed to
'from his incarceration than was that Gentleman. I now
wish to draw a short sketch of the state of -Ireland at
that time, in order to show my extreme inxiety to put
his Majesty's Ministers in possession of all I knew re-
specting the state of things in that country, that I used
no disguise, but was anxious that any thing I knew or
thought respecting the state of Ireland should be knOwn
et the highest quarters. I took particular painshefore
I left this country to state the only grounds upon which
I could consent to take upon me the Government of
that country, and. I believe, I have not since deviated
'from the course which I then pledged myself to pursue.
I shall now have occasion to refer to papers connected
with my Government while there, and, I think, it will
[ appear sufficiently evident frogs them chit I hate not
neglected the Protestant *serest; that I have . not
supported the Catholic Association; that I have been
watchful over. the public interest ;,.ned that I was
alive to the srvat dirk-shies connected with my sitOe-
tion, and to she great 'dangers arising to the state from
the circumstances under which that country laboured.
The documents that I,bold-in my hand wit sufficiently
*how this, and I am quite certain that his Majesty's
Ministers will have no objection to my referring to
those papers, because they will tend materially to
strengthen their cause, if they should oast any strength,
in having brought forward a sfsessure of which 1 so
cordially approve. My Lords, nothing would gift use
so much satisfaction is to have every paper connected
with my government in Ireland laid upon your Lord-
ships' table, but, as I can hardly expect that to be.done,
I beg leave to say that I have the.highest permission to
read those papers which are more immediately con-
nected with the subject upou which it is my duty now
more particularly to dwell.. My only wish is to prove
my anxiety for the general interest of the country. not
for the Catholics[more than for the Protestants, bat for
all; and that :1 never failed to make the Government
here acqusinted with any important circumstance that
came to trip 'knowledge. As early as the 22d of March
(I arrived only on the 10th), I wrote to the Noble Duke
as follows: _ _

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"I am engaged in collecting suit information u ay enable me
to form a judgment apes the course it may be advisable to pursue
io regard to the Catholic Association; and I hops it may be in my
power to transmit utdt information within a fortnight."
My next letter was to Mr. Peel on the Slit of March,
in which I wrote as follows—
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al. la the Cadmic Asiedatium &no uppers asses et akin, sot,
betrever, I fear, to be depended yam"
Again, on the 9th of April—.
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" Tipperary is not in so desperate a Mite as lea Muhl&
memento= are going on in the most saliscactory manner."
Again, to the same Gentleman, on the 12th—
* On the subject of the Catholic AssaciatiOn it is with extreme
reluctance that I venture an opinion, but my situation requires that
I should do so. I ground it upon the information I have assidu-
ously and impartially collected from the best sinners. I think the
Bill sbould.be allowed to expire without uotke—il passible, with.
out *Litman to the possibility of re.onactsient. Supported by the
powerful aid of that excellent establishment, the constabulary
form, already working the greatest Iseasiks, and capable of min
further improvermest and protected as that force is by an Admit
army. ably commanded, I feel perfect conidenco that no num*
mischief will arise during the short peried.of seem months, when
Parliament would again 111110 L During this dew. should the A..
saciation resort to measures dangerous to the poses of the country,
the Formal of enacting energetic and eswrceve laws would-be met
by the Parliament with s far different feeling flees that which smell
a course woad encounter at this asentent."
To the Chief Secretary for Ireland, on 22J April—
" I expressed my anaisty that a fond for making roads tbrdugh
the mountain fastnesses of Glencoloo should be granted, and that
police stations should be established, with the view of impressing
upon the minds of the turbulent in Tipperary, where the Anises
had so successfully terminated, that the Government was deter-
mined to pat a step to all further excesses there. I say lam coo.
viand • that peace and any thing like comfort in this country can
never be felt until the great question is settled.
Get us the means of 'asking toads and erecting police bar-
racks. The true means of effectiug good in Ireland is to give secu-
rity. to the resident proprietors, and thus to induce others to return
and become residents." • .
Again, to the same Gentleman, on tbe 7th
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" I seplsh tioy views and those of the Attoiney General about
factories. I ask, What are we to do with"the immense popolation
Unlesswe lied employment for them ? lam confident the making
of roads through the at present inaccessible districts would have a
very favourable effect,"
Ou the 14th L wrote to Mr. Peel as follows-
4. I pursue the subject, and show that prompt measarce will have
the best effect, by showing a determination to eradicate the evil.
" N.B. Sae after 10,0004 was grinted and the roads begun "
To the Chiet *clam,' on the 16th :sod 216 -
-6, )lo attemptaltould be made this Session to put on tkeCatisolit
=:l3. tat time be given to reconcile the public mind to the
en case. It is Me system of delusion and of suspicion that
drives the Catholic laden mad. I know, beyond all doubt, that
man :re not violent, sod wish the question to by settled with every
ration toe even the prejudices of the Protestants:'
Agate, on tbe2e4b-
-1 Mall see Su Hircourt Loses. He is taking unnecessary alarm.
My conviction is there Wiling( be aimultadous nseetinp.
" N. a—They were shortly after given up."
' To Mi. Peel I wrote oft she.2lst Jane—• • •
44 The Association is becoming very troublesome again. There
is numb inhales. I have cauved,a strong muster of the constabus
Lary at Snots. The Orattgensen;to the. North are getting violent.
Sir Harcourt LAss bee promised us den WWI to seep them quiet.
"There it great irritationi and.siolence of language at Clue.—
The system of intimidation is carried to great height. I anat,
however, discover soy revolutionary feeling.. It Is merely the
effect ot a new election in a Catbobc4couoty."
Ott the 30th Julie. at the time ut the Clare electiop,
mote to Mr. Peel—

• " There Is ample force in Clare to kkep.the peace. lam sorry
to observe that the Catholic Bishops (many of whom are acting
with much moderation, discretion antrgued will) have less ides:new
than I bad imagined."
Agate, on the Ist July—
" I really believe that the agitators are anxious to preserve order,
a►d that they have the power, as well as the inclination, to accom-
plish it."
OD the 2d of July I wrote to the new•appoioted
Chief Secretary for Ireland—
" I believe the final success of the Catholics is inevitable—diet
no power under Heaven can avert lu progress. There may be re-
bellies—you may pat to death thousands.—yos may suppress it ;
but it will be only to put of the day of compromise. gaud. in the
meantime. the country is more impoverished. The people are sdli
more alienated. and ruinous expenle is entailed upon the empire.
4. Tinny are bad, they must get worse, and i Sc, so possible
means of improving them but by taking Messrs. O'Connell and
Shed from the Association, and plating them In the Moose of
Commons.
44 But, supposing the whole evil was concentrated in the. Asso-
ciation, where is the man who can tell me bow to suppress it?—
Many cry old that the Government is supine, but all are mote when
asked, how are we to get rid of the mummer

Again, to the ianie Right Honourable Gentleman,
on the 4th of July—
•• There is a reuesable hope that the peace way be preserved--
this is satisfactory. Bet the power that is exhibited in effecting
the object shows the danger to be apprehended in leaving Mega as
'they are."
f o Mr. Peel I wrote on the 146
..1 'amnia" to foul coafkleit that ttabluillity will met be 41.1

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Too will lime time to deliberate; kat.' repeat that w&
most list long attempt to regalia as we arm
u love timely watched the proceedings of the 'skews. It is
very daring sod lostikki. I have Oleo appealed to the law autho-
rities mt. the practicability sod policy of prosecution for acts cons.
mittid or tor words spoken; hot Ishave always been amoredihst
pocking had occurred that amid he laid hold of. I took the oppor-
lanky of the presence of Mr. Fitzgerald to have the orioles of the
Attorney-General ppoa all these points; and be that repeated what
he has mid before.".

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Again, on the 16th, I wrote as follows—
" Ihsvo no ditilte:on the contrary I should object, to be armed
with any power beyond what the Government already possesses.
" I am desirous that the whole of my letter to Lord Francis L.
I &Met of the I ljb inst. should be seen by your colleagues, bourse
Itlies my sentiments upon else mete of Ireland. as lar as it
lea • b the Catholic Question—the mischiefs with which it
is tirtiosed, and the only means that have oecurred to me of
amities thaw. lam desirous of this because, who'll. the King and
the Mainers of his \ lajesty become thus fully acquainted with my
*dm, they would judge of my fitness weeny into effect the mica.
sores they might decide upon adoptlag. The sum, I believe, of
what .1 hsve written from time to time on this subject amounts to
thisthat I do not apprehend the tranquillity of the country will
he injoitedistely endangered—that there is so necessity for new
laws toetrengthen Ai arm of 9oyeruntsot—tlas Do coercive Was
lativaltommuifrillget aid of eitiWag evils. unaccompanied by csos-
cens-chat. sock an attempt wield produce. julluitia • •
and might create a crisis. the scutsl exiseocir of wile* would Mani
justify their adoption—that, if rehellton was to break out, there is
a statism force to meet its first attempts. and probably to gsleY
It—that then. and ate till them—cmirglwe laws 'sight he cafisi
and. if ailed for, potting short of the-suspension artist Itibess
Corpus Act would pot down the Association. and curb the power
of the Priests—that such a measure would only produce temporary
tranquillity—that at this Moment there is no ground to justify an
application for a coercive Liw—that if it existed. I could out use
it—that the King's servants may depend upon my being watchfid,
Mod ready to make full, vigorous. yet prude's. us• of the power I
now pongee. if, unfortunately, then should occur any tangible in-
fringement of the laws."

. Again, on the Mb—
" I have placed your letter, together with that you wrote to the
Attorney and Solicitor General of Segland, in -the buds of the
Attorney and Solicitor General of Ireland, desiring their opinion.
I useless it. hly attention has been already sailed to the speech.-s
delivered at the Catholic Association of the lath ; and, in a letter
I wrote to lard F. L. Gower en the loth, I desired that he would
read a particular Speech. It snuck me as being clever. Ingenious,
and remarkably mischievous, but that the speaker had artfully
guarded Newell against prosecution. This opinion is confirmed by
the Attorney sad Solicitor General; and there. I conceive, ends
Ithe googlies.
Again. I wrote Mr. Peel, on the 26th—
" Mr. O'Connell has asked for an audience, ostensibly to engage
me to seed a Commission of Inquiry upon a case of murder com-
mitted by a rucentre of Orangemen and Catholics on the 12411.
I give you tbe Information in advance. u I am aware this circum-
stance will be`eomniented upon. Yu will, lam sure. appreciate
the motive that engages me to revert again to the gnat question.
Few, even of the Orangeman, dispute the necessity of an adjust-
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IS I conjure you to take the state of Ireland into eonaideratioe
before the meeting of Parliament."

• On the 27th 1 again wrote Mr. Peel— .
" O'Connell came to me this morning, and mar interview took
plate in the piesence of Lord Forbes. The object was what lbw,*
already stated."
Again, oe the 29th—
As I foresaw. the interview I granted to Mr. O'Connell has
been the subject of much vituperation."
On the 31st of July 1 went, the Chief Secretary lot
Lreland—
• I know the country to be to a very disturbed state. I can do
nothing more than I have done. 1 think. if the brat calm Is nut
seised to deelase for an adjustment, the Government utast expect
very serious disturbances. .
" On the Doke of Wellington's intentions my own course most
depend. 1 *UI exeit 0310141 10 keep the country quiet, and put
down rebellion under any circumstances, but I will uut consent to
govern this country much longer under the existing laen."—(Then
I speak of the *decades' money, and the false posuou at the bird
Lieutenant, &c.)

On the Bth of September 1 thus wrote Mr. Pal—

" It seems agreed on all aides that the public feeling was hewer
at so high a pitch of ezeiteinent as at present.
The language of both parties is violent in the extreme, and
both appear ripe for action.
44 The urgauisation of the Catholics is very complete. They
carry banners: they form and they march by word of command,
and in good order ; but they commit no outrage, and Isiiscoorage
interference or display both of the military and the•coustabelary.
" The Carrying party lags is illegal. Put cheat down, anal what
40 you gap by it? The law will be obeyed—the fi ig. will ills
appear but the meetings, the great mischief of all, win coutitiu
and in suppressing the minor evil you will increa.e irritation and
bad feeling toward. the laws. The speeches continue to be intim.
matort. Expressions might possibly be noted that would admit et
prosecution ; but in general the language is nicely measured. and
so equivocal as to admit of an explanadoo that might be strained
into an excess of loyalty, and a nervous warning woe state of the
danger to which it is exposed. I have yet heard of nothing that
might lead to a favourable verdict: '
" The Brunswichers--(I have frequently used the term Bruns.
wicker, as your Lordships-will obseve in these letters, but I can
assure your Lordships that I meant nothing offensive to the use of
that term)—ate rivalling the association iu violence and in real.
Two associations and two rents are rather formidable.. The Bruns-
wick establishment is nut very dawning to the King. or to his Mi-
nisters, or to the army, since it deams it necessary to take the
whole uoder its especial protection. This is a most distressing
state of things, iud I defy any out to pronounce upon the mob;
but ibis I know, that thins must not remain so long. - • • •
" Demme see far before me. I can only guess at.what is.ll/Mitt
to happen fur a very few months. I calculate spun. a quiet winler'
in acts but not in language.
44. Lground my opinion upon this. The Caatolics.ire persuaded
tint the Bruoswiekers will bung oa collision if they can, with the
view of committing the Government against them. •
" The Is what the leaders will endeavour to avoid, and, with the
power they possess over the minds of the multitude. possibly they
may see , and then there will be, probably, eyes less crime and
nightly outrage than has been usual.
" liken if there be any project of insurrection, which I do Dot
believe. the winter would not be the chosen season I can imagism,
nothing less inviting than a rebel bivouac during a lung dreary win-
ter's night ; therefore it appears to me probable that you will hays
time to legislate before we begin to fight."
I wrote on the 2.3 J September to Mr. Peel—
.' I think we must soca have .recourse to some vigorous mea-
sures. Too may trust to my delaying the crisis as loos as possible,
as I foresee its destructive meagerness; but then there is a point
beyond which torbearance cannot go, and I an inclined to believe
we are approaching it rapidly." ,
• Agee., on the 26th—
be use the meetings are persevered le, and serious disturb.
wars occur. I shall not hesitate to hue a Proclamation upon my
own rupee:bider; if pressed fee time, and ifl cannot assemble a
respectable Privy Council, and if 1 issue one, rest assured I will
enforce it."
Again, on the lit October.—
" I dinnot retina& lapelf we shall want any mere help. The
Proclamation is bleed. A requisition is made for two battalions
from England. Mr. Lawisse's cue is under coadderatioo."
Again. I wrdie Air. Peel on. the 2J October—
" my incessant care shall be to 'veld coin Woo. Two additional
battalions of q,reginient of cavalry', with a ample of guns (if they
could be conveniently. spired). to plate alting the line of Tipperary,
Limerick, and Clare, would prevent much of the usual winter es-
teems; and if the leaders atilt, Brunswickers, would be prevailed
upon to set their faces against the assembly sad Wised:Ades of the
Protestants-41 they would erult to the power of the Governments
to the wisdom of the King's Mnisters, and to the judgment tit
Parliament, Witted of attempting to dictate to alleben this eta
happy country Might hope for comparative rest." •
My last letter upon this subject was to the Duke of
WelOngtuo t. it is dated the 6th of Octobei, not long
before the unturtenate correspoodeoce took place' to.
which 1 shall soon have to refer. It •proceeds as tolitrivs.,
4 I annetsaieett'do not. do Whisk by Italics. ps_kave
placed at my =pool troop, geodes to ctintrind the OntE