Star.
London, England, 1817-07-21 00:00:00

THE SAM% V. POWELL.

The claimant in this case alto occupied a house in
Round-court, St. Martin's-le-Grind, where 6•• rai-
ried on the bus;ness of a pAinttr and glazier. lie had
been offered 44200 by the Corporation. The sun'
claimed by him was €l3o‘).

Mr. Montague was again c tiled, and deposed to
the value of the unexpired term of the lease held by
the defendant, as also to the losses in trade, and
otherwise, which he would suffer by the removal. lis
his opinion the sum offered by the City WAS an ade-
quate remuneration.
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Mr. Bevan WAS then cAled by Mr. Serjeant Cot.-
LIM 10f the defendant—He had valued the premises,
and also made an estimation of the damage and loss
of trade attendant on the removal of the defendant
and ye WAS of opinion that 01300 was the compel',
sation to which the latter was Lolly entitled for such
A removal. To a question put to this witness (who is
a member of the Society of Friends) by the ComatoN
SEHJEANT, whether, independent of charges for the
survey, he was not to receive a sum of money for his
attendance at that Court ? He replied, g, Certainly,
And it is but fair. I fancy none of you Gentlemen
wouli come here without refreshen." This reply ex-
cited much mirth In the Court.

Other witnesses were called to prove the receipts of
the trade, Sac.—Th4 Jury returned A verdict—Da-
mages, 4550.

OXFORD MIDSUMMER ASSIZES.-CIVII, r.IDF.
BREACH OF PkOMBE OF MARIAIMA.
HARMS ^J. LOADFIII.

Mr. SIIENIKRD opened this cast, and stated, that
it wax an action to recover compensation in damages
for a breach of promise of marriage.
Mr. Watery's:us addressed the Court and Jail n
the part of the Plaintiff, whom be.represented to he a
young lady of respectable connexions, and of consi-
derable persoaal beauty and accomplishments. The
injury, lie observed. which she had sustained throtk.;ll
the conduct of the Defendant, wai almost the ereatest
which a man could intct upon a woman. The De-
fendant, who was a man of competent lorturp, be.
came acquainted with the Plaintiff in the summer of
1815, a.id in a short time secured both her heart and
affections. He was introduced to her tether, who
was a farmer of some consequence, and was received
by her family with reel y possible coolidence and
friendship. His attentions to Miss Harris were of
the most assiduous description, and to such a length
had the mutual determination to be married gone,'
that a day was actually !bad for the wedding, which
WAS to take place on the same day on which Mr. John
Harris. the brother of the Plaintiff, was to take the
hand of a young lady to whom he had lung been pay-
ing his addresses. The welling dress was purchased,
and the bride-maid chosen. In defiance of all these
preliminaries, however, the Defendant, who was be-
tween 50 and fio years of age, abandoned his engage-
Omni' ; and without the sligl test apparent cause de.
setted the Plaintiff, and put it completely out of his
power to make her amends, by mart.) ing A younger
lady, a Miss Stone, only '2l years of age. The hopes
of the Plaintiff were thus utterly 14 isted, and almost
all chance of A settlement hie lila was frustrated. A
woman placed in such A situatiiin had to encounter
difficulties which were unknown to the opposite s-x.
A man, it he were refused by a lady, had only to seek
a new object of attention, and was successlisl ; but a
woman, on the contrary, having been once known as
•betrothed, could scarcely ever hope to meet a arcond
offer. With respect to damages for such an inlay,
it was impossible to name a sum which would he
adequate to the mischief sustained : nevertheless, tl:e
law allowed a cirtain proportion of compensation.
and it would lac for the Jury on this occasion to award
such a verdict as would at least shew that the disap-
pointment of the PI iintiff was not attritnit.ible to any
fault of her own, but to the perfidy of one in whom
her confidence had been misplaced. The Learned ,
Counsel then called evidence to support his case.
Mr. Jelin Harris, brother to the Plaintiff, deposed. !
that he resided with his father, at East Hannan, in 1
this county. At the litter end tit the year, 815,1
his sister because acquainted with the Detelidant,
who WAS a Gentleman living en his property at West !
' Hannan, a short distance from her father's house.— I
! He addressed witness's sister as ha suitor, and every
I person anticipated an union between them. Watneas
1 asked the Defendant it he would be married on the
same day on which he was about to be married him-
self, to which he agreed ; and in order to avoid some
difficulties, witness consented to postpone his own
wedding, to meet the convenience of the D..tientlasit. 1
The Defendant afterwards abandoned his promise,
and witness was married on the 28th of December, I
1815. The Defendant. however, still continued his,
assidoities to the Plaintiff, and paid her every pos-1
sible attentton. This continued till the month of
April, 1816, when the Defendant married another
lady.
Cross-examined by Mr. Jituvis.—The Defendant
first saw witness'i sister at Grove Feast ; he walked
home with her to her father's house. Witness was
not at home when they first came in, bnt came hotne
soon after; he went to bed and felt thew together.

TLia was the beginninz t,f thr enurtthip I it was the
mnntli of Angust. F1.,111 st JIM' till Apra the
Defend int was nssidu•lns in his attentions to wit-
ne.s's sister. Witness p.stponed his own marriage
in crd-r Ora :h. re rrigt.t be too marti fgeq at once
i t the 1 N...ver Ito erd the D -fendant gar in
terms--,. I will marry yin- s;stre." At the login=
fling tit Apil rilled upon wi•nets's si:aer. and
made a preknt tee Thr all cupped to.
pettier tl:at eta vtry liorpj : heard no
di•agreeinelt betwe.n defendant an/ Ilis .:ster.
W!len en- Dc.1.11.1.1.1t oke of rntrryoi4
sister en (Le tnr days wimess w.ss to Iv_• mattieet
withess ;11;101h:el the stNret tirst.
bI s; U. Ip.tals Harts, sister t‘• the Pll;litifY, col.
firmed t'le nt the list nsituesa. :she never
heard of and div,:t.t.:ta...en her sire' and dm De-
fendant. T:.ey seemed much attached to each
other. occaa;on illy went to lo.d auJ left
them sitting up togs Etter. R c 41,:cted last even•
ing the Delendaist spent at licr father's han.r, 1
brought a present for kr father. He 1:.:(1 ask,.d
witness to stand AC britk'd nai'd ; and the wedding-
gnwn was pr: pared.

Cross-examined by Mr. DAutinEv.—TLe prevent
which the Defendant gave to si,ness's bather was
some fish. It was dressed for supper ; vitald rot
collect villa snrt of a fish it was; could not ray
ther the Defendant WAS a fist fish or ar. ndsl
She very oho' lel t her sister with the Defendant alooe.
Was sure the Defendant was fl:1 years nt age ;
not atiaiel to leave this vo!atile youth Alone ai,lt her
sister; if Va were yettayer sl:e would have dene tLe
same thing. Never heard the Del_ridant speak to
her father About the matriage ; when he asked her
to become bride's maid, she did not 14,80 at e
poor old man's folly. lie al.vays, after 01., Erb' in.
trnductihn, paid his visits on Wednesdays ..n.t Sun-
days. He lived very near, but did mit coma on
other d iys. Her father and mother weir !reel:waif,'
at home when the Defendant can't., and often went
to bed, leaving her sister and him together.
William Harris, the father of the plaintiff, also
prayed the continued visms of tLe di..ftndant to his
elau,t liter —4,e always cond..lered him as the suitor of
his 'daughter. When he s!iscontutued his visits at
one time, witness caliei on !aim at lash, toe„cid slid
that his da.ighter was very uneasy at his alai, use.
The defendant said she should out make hetsoll un-
easy, he thought it was better !-.e st, p away
a little—hut she might depend that he wt,uld be
good to his wood.
cross-examination by Mr. JEttets, witness ad-
mitted that he had never actually said any thing to
the defendant about marriage, net. did :he ele'ciai int
say be would marry I.is daughter, hat had alway s
conducted liimelf as if lie intended to marry her.
1-le never S4IV any iitipto;.er levity in his daughter,
nor did he ev.r Lear toe defendant complain of her
in any way.

y Codd ird .puke as to the gewral ()pi.
Ili( w4s tntert‘ined that the 41.A-id:lnt 44.1
Mks thtris wcrt• to he mirriell.

Jni►n Htilme•, Elq, proved that the defendant
livea itpnn hip krikitte, sad was cnnsiderea us a MAR
of prve:t y.

. .
Mr. Jettvss now addressed the Jury at considera-
ble length, on the part of the defendant. He denied
that, in this co.e, there had been any thing like a
breach of promise at all; for although ttie whole fa•
milt' of the plaintiff had been calk:: to prove her CAS!,
not one of them had gone so far as to impute to the
defendant an actual promise to marry. jr, was
that the defendant might have occasion olly paid
visits to the family of the phintiir, and there certainly
seemed to be an malt:us disposittua on then. part to
draw him into a matriage, for it was seen that every
pains were taken to the young and giggling
couple togedier ; and that even at night, when' a
watchful patent would have Irk it his duty to watch
ov r his daughter, the whole family were hound re.
tiring to bed, in Lode: to give A stronger colour to
their views; but still this was. in no repent bindirg
on the defendant, 11,11 did it appear that lie had even
thought of matrimony, until s &cited to awry on a
particular day by the plaintiff's brother. There oat
something, it WAS tollit, s aid ethritlt 8 bride's-maid and
A wedding gown ; ha• surety a joke of this sort from
an old man, capable of being the father of the plain-
tiff, could never.have been received in'a seiious light.
Then again, t!•ere was A present of fish, but this, was
to the plaintiff's tether, and WAS one of those com-
mon acts of courtesy which meant nothing beyond
civility. If, tiposithe whol however, the Jury ilsould
npinson,.that they really WAS any gr• nod fur
this action, the nest qtrotion fear their cot.sideration
would be, the amount at. damage which the plains i>y
had sustained. Errnse, upon her part, there had
evidently been none incurred, beyond tine putchase of
a wedding gown; and, no duubt, this WAS C.i 4 very
plain descript •sn, and had been manufactured by the
plaintiff herself. llad there been dress-olaktas em-
ployed on the occasion, they would, in all probability,
have been added to the catalogue of other witnesses.
Upon this score, therefore, he apprehended the Jury
would Agree with him in thinking that a few shillings
would answer the justice of the caw : with regard to.
any other loss of which the plaintiff had a sight to
expect compensation, he really could see none; for
to A yuung Lady ul V. 5, he should imagine to be rid
set au old 511401* tit Siaty, was a I:l4tet fa:11121- et con.
gratulation tLin of %111 and 1:C had 113 &LOA
alAt Miss Hartis w:ta heartily ;7,1 tu be relti.v...l
from his illiptirtUllitlCS.
Mr. JUAICe Said, that this case it was tie
the Jury to s.ty, v.hothcr, from Cie general conduct
of the defendant, who was A ni.in AdValllCed in lite,
and th.refine capable of judging of his actions, he
hail nut given stitli,:ient inlication of his intention to
marry the plaintiff, ca to warrant the belief that suet*
WAS his desire? It oas very true, that lie had titver
said in express terms to any ut the witnesses whn had
been called, that he would marry Miss Harris; lint
it appeared that when he was asked by Mr. Hark
jun. whether he would marry his sister on the same
day on which he was to be marritd himself, so far
WAS he from denying Ctat Ito c nremplated a mil-
nage with Pit; ; ! -hiss that he actually alre-:,1 to
the suggestion, although he subsequently ay. bled the
fulfilment of Its promise. It WAS AISO InallilealVl*-1
his language to tlle father of the plaintiff, when he
waited upon him to I.:illt.sent the painful fealtogs
which his absence Itai occasion.:d iit the mind c.t h s
daughter, that at that time he fully underaand the
tooting upon which :Ir was considered.. I ► words he
said, he tnutight it WA+ betas clot bc. should scup

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ASSAULT UPON AN OXONIAN.
SEYMOUR v. BLIsS.

away a little, but that she might depend that he
would be as good as his word." Here was a clear
admission, that neither the rlaintiff nor her family
were wrong when they considered him a man who
was to bc•vrte cinnected with them hr mating:. If
the fact :ither tviie, and that he leally h ui tio sttett
views, ttily did he 11,4 seize this nceasion to nntleceive
the father, and can,litll to declare his feelings Upon
the whole, if the .luny believed the testimony on tl-e
part of the rl.intiif, unopposed as it was by any evi-
dence on the part of the defendant, who had not at-
tempted to thtow a single reproach on the conduct r,l
the Lady whose confidence he had abuseJ,thvy would
give such reasonable damages as they, in tee tair anJ
impartial discharge of their duty, considored
recnnirense the plaintiff for the mortification and
disappointment which she must necessarily have felt
tone!: r all the circumstances.
alter a Orin consultatinn, found a ver-
dict fox iiie Thtee Ilundred
found,.—Cos•s

Mr. DAZ:NCiS, in srat;ng the circunveances
which the reset,: action was brought, oheereed, that
the piainriff, Mr. George Seymour. was the son of
Loy i Geceete Seynseur, and was a Memher of the
Unsr rsity (le. alluded to Merton College). noel the
delete:am bo iktellcr in the town. He had
oises.:ll h. e A M,;;:.lirt ill the same University a
nitrite r of )•:•ii.b l aa.. 14, cou'el tea Leg how many,
but', in Oar mind. of 14;9,0, it nyVit upeeete to his
elisa•ivantage ; be: eii.ring his reeidrnce at College,
thiougnout his cepesience since, this was the first
insoince in which he h.d ever heard of an assielft
having heen committed by a tradesman cif the town
upon a Gentleman belonging to the University. It
would appear, that in 181 ii, the plaintiff, %loon lie
had already stated to be the son of a Nobleeman of
high rank, came to the University, and was entered
as a member of hlerton Cullege. Having occasion
to purchase snore books, lie was referred to Mr. Bliss.
of whom, on the 16th, 17th, or 18th of May, he
bought several volumes. After he had made this
purchase, he paid the bill which was delivered to
him, to the aa,ount of acer or aes. In the course of
a day cr two subsequently, he made another pur-
chase, and upon his second b.ll being sent in, he
was not a lade surprized to find that the last book
cherged in Lie bill which he bad paid, was the first
in the secend acecont. It umet betaken for granted
teat this was the effect of accident and not of design,
on the p.at of Mr. Bliss; but the fact being so, Mr.
Seymour of cocire determined not to pay a suer
which lie to.cl already discharged. Some application
kesseug been made to Mr. Seymour for payment, and
an Lusus::!iaving brim reunited by him. Mr. Bliss
theugia proper to write bins a note, in which he de-
steed Mr. lee)monr would see hint, or that he would
allow Lim to have a personal interview. hlr. Soy-
snour lost nu time in attending this summons ; and
accordingly, accompanied by a Genii:loess of the
truves.ity, Mr. Dashwood, be went to the house of
fgt. Blis:, and dreired to know what was hit pleasure.'
immediately beset, that he wished to tell ,
"Dlr. Seymour to his :ace, that which Le had prcvi-,
Emily vet itten—osamely, that te VW no Gentleman.
Mr. St) mour replied, that he had the good fortune
to . be born a Gentleman; and sonny further conver-
banjos ensued, widen would atterwards be described
in evidence, but rite result of whiclt was, that Mr.
Bliss struck Mr. Seymour a blow, and then tekisig
bim by the shoulders pushed him out of the house.
He desir. d to state, how( ver, that his client WAS Ly
no means desirous of vied•ctive ur large demages
all be wished was, that such a verdict ehould be given
would teach the defenuant to feel the imptoptiety
of the course he had thought pr%)per to adopt.
Mr. G. Gram proved a ni to end some bills put in.
to be the hend.wiiting of the defendant.
The 'tote in question was then reed : in substance,
it requested Mi. Seymour to favour Mr. Bliss with a
rrtscuai interview.
Mr. Alexander Dashwood deposed as follows:
" I am a Gentleman Commoner of Merton College;
I know the plaintiff; I accompanied him to the house
of Mr. Bliss in May last; he went iteeie in conse-
quence of the note which has been just read. On
entering the shop Mr. Seymour addressed hole. Bliss,
brad asked him what he wanted with him i adding,
't:.at ke had received *vote. desiring a personal
in-
ter Mr. Bliss at first denied that he 'Noshed to
h..re any personal interview with Mr. Seymour, but
niterwards said, he wished to tell him personally,
what he had behest written. namely, that his conduct
had not been that of a Gentleman. Mr. Seymour
seemed to suepect that Mr. Bliss wanted to call itim
oat, and sato he had the Fool fortune to be born a
Gentleman, end heped he ehould not be induced to
ftsrleit Isis churn to that character. Mr.. Bliss upon
eilie'seetneti to be very indignant, and said, If you
kok back to our two families, you will find that the
ream: ot• Stitt is superior to that. of Seymour: Mr.
Leymour ttjusied, * T suppose pod wish to provoke
me to co ike•you, and will then either bring an action,
or put me in the Fier-Chancellor's Court.' Mr. Bliss
denied this to be Lis interlineo and proceeded to call
Mr. Se)n..iur s rascal. Mr. Seymour returned the
eneerdinient, and Mr. Mimi said, • you are a still
greats.' They tient VD this way our some time. Wl-
ti! at last Mr. Bliss said, a pay tue my biU, and
.l will
lisve nothing more to do with you.' Mr. Seymour
said he certainly -should not pay an incorrect bill t he
should not pay for the cane book twice over.
Bliss in reply to this said. that Mr. Seymour had the
rtiliricter ril is er :he University of not paying his
bats. Mi. tieymi ur having in anSlieli to this said,
tort Mr. Bess WAS the last person who ought to bring
suet' • charge agatiot him. Mr. 'Bliss asked witness
wt ether a note which Le presented to him, and which
he said lie had receisi e from Mr. Seymour, was not
extremely imeroper ? Witeees replied, Mr. Sey-
mour acceses y.,ti eberp,ing him twice over fur the
same book.' Mr. said, • It is false,' when Mr.
Sey moue :.:id.he had I.is receipt in his pocket. Be-
fore this Mr. Bliss threw dove: some hooks he had in
his hand, and struck Mr. Seyrronr in the face. He
afterwards pushed lion out ref the shop, and on Ins
returning pushed him out again."
In cross-examination .by MT. TA t7STON, witness
. said he recollected a boy who was in the shop :eying,
10 answer to al question from Mr. Bliss, that Mr.
Seymour had said his master Might go to the devil.
Mr. Seymour said, " If I strike you, you will take,
thac law of me ;" 'Too which Mr. 13144 took up it

pro tn love a trriltin agreernfntAt lie %waft, mita—
whrn Mr, Seymour said. " I am no coatlieaver."
Mr. !;:•7ffiour was a slim young man. and 'Mr. Bliss
was strong and muscular. The books a:labd to
were Es-I,;ner and Demo Ames. Witness heard sr).
thing of two editions, the one with arrl tl,e other
! without a translation, being sent to Mr. tifym.iur
Wiine,:s would not like to have received the blow
given to Mr..S.,•rnour. If the latter had not shifted
his head it would have been y stvere. Mr. Bliss
struck with all his forte.

Nlr. TAUNTr,N now addressed the .Tory on the part
cf the D.:fenclant, against whom he admitir l a ver-
dict must be given ; he submitted, however, that
Nir. Si ymvur would have consulted the dignity Ms
his own character much more by ay..iding than by
courting an altercation with Mr. Bliss, who, as a
respectable tradesman, had certainly touch reason to
be offended by the manner in which lie had been
treated by Mr. Seymour ; and whose fulingew in
consequerce,• most have been in a state cf great irri-
tation. It seemed to him that, in point of abiLe,
Mr. Seymour was nal more deficient than Mr. B:iss ;
for whatever the one said the other repeated uith in-
terest ; and, norm reviewing the conduct of both, be
must say, t!ln it would tuire b •en impnsvblr fi r
Eirhines and Dentestizencs (respectilln Whofe orations
the dispute h.id arisen) to have given amore efrcient
lesson, in what, in familiar terms, might be called
the language of Billingsgate. Having thus placed
both pasties upon a par in point of abuse, the only
questicn which remained was, as to the quantum of
damages to which the Plaintiff was entitled. This
most depend upon the injury which had been sus-
tained, and at most this amounted to a slight blow
on the face. For so trifling an injury, he apprehend-
ed the ranallest damages which the Jury could give
would be sufficient.

Mr. Justice GARROW, in summing up the evidence,
lamented, that in having the honour, for the first
time, to preside as a Judge in this ancient city, such
a case as the present should be brought before him.
The defendant had put no justification on the record,
and indeed had not proved any ; consequently the
plaintiff was entitled to a verdict. He could not help
thinking, however, although the law was in lav •ur
of Mr. Seymour, that there were faults on both sides.
He would recommend to the Jury, therefme, to give
such temperate and moderate damages as would
teach each patty that they had transgressed those
bounds of decorum, which their respective situations
should have taught them to observ;.
The Jury, after a short considet.ttion, found a ver-
dict for the Plaintiff—Damages Cots lOs.

WARWICK, Itri.Y 17.
DISANTING MU. LANG iioUsES.
ilAl EU th THE Pat•lt n.►Tt OV

This was an appeal brought in conceqoance of an
assessment lately ni of a Brptist Chapel, eroc:0:1
about four )CAI'S ago, in the liatriLt of Pailton, in
the parish of Monks Kiiby. In oppo,irion ra the in-
clinaLions of the in:latiitailts of o.e it miler, this Chapel
had been assessed to the last tour rates, as of the an-
nual value of d 7. Although the amount was small,
the principle was important ; and, therefore, the
person rated as the occupier considcrod that as 0 e
expenses necessary to teligions worship equalled the
receipts, there wits no beneficial occupation, and that
no rate upon him, in respect of the %impel, could
legally be made. He had therefore applied to " the
Society for the Protection of the Religious Liberty of
Dissenters," in London, and they had authorised hitu
to appeal against the rate.
When the appeal was called, and Mr. READER
and Nlr. RETNOLLM, who were Counsel for the appel-
lant, were proceeding in the itepeel, Mr. TENost, on
the part of ti:e parish officers, stated that they were
convinced the rate could not be sustainee, and that
he WAS tristiucted to consent that the sate should be
quashed, and I 5 paid by them to the appellant for
his costs ; and which was accordingly ordered by
the Court.

MARLIOROUCII STREET.—Saturday, Lord Kirke:id•
Zri~la and his servant, J. Want, were brought up ft om
Maiy•la bonne watch-heuse and examined, charged
with a violent assault upon Mr. John Penning, of
Charlotte•row, New-road, by the former presenting a
pi!.tol at him, and putting Lim in bodily fear, and the
latter committing a common assault upon his person.
The complainant stated, that Lord Kirkcudbright
WaS tor some time his lodger : on Fiiday afternoon
he began to remove his furniture, which complainant
opposed, unless he was paid the rent on the spot; the
N.ible Lord demurred, and was taking away the
things, but witness expressed his determination of
having his money first, upon whic!) the prisoner ran
back to his apartments, aril in a few minutes after-
wards returned with a pair of pistols, with sosing
barites, and swore if he longer of posed the removal
of his property he would shoot him : complainant
said, he felt alarmed, and locked liimsat up in his
parlour; and, finding every likcli!nood that his Lord-
ship would take the things away, he opened the
blinds, and called to the passersby to bring him a
constable, as he was in fear of his lite. Accordingly
sotne one went, and brought Coates, the parish officer.
Before his arrival witness ventured into the passage,
where the prisoner, John Watts, the servant of Lord
Kirkctsdqight, pcilvd off ills coat, and challenged
hint to fight, declaring no one should touch his mas-
ter. The constable came, aria Lord K. went cut,
promising to leave the place crie.ly, but :again
returned some time afterwards, aid !kiwi:A as viu
lent as ever. Witness was again compelled to send
for the Officers, who took them both into custody.
The Magistrate gave it as his opinion that the assault
was proved, and-held the Noble Lord to bail. The
parties then retired, w:len as adjustment was made,
and the case discharged.
SHADWELL OfiiCE.--A case cifA curious descrip-
tion occupied Cle attentit.n of ti,e Magistrate on Sa-
turday :—A jolly t.,r, known along shore by the
name of Broune, was charged with a violent
assault on a publican, when the apprehension of a
visit to limbo led to a disclosure that the supposed
William Browne was a female, whose real name was
Sarah Ann Browne. She said she was a native of
New York, and that she had served 14 years in the
British Navy, from which she was discharged with it
pension. Her ladyship was directed to settle the htt-
*Mess 'With the publican, and to abstain, in these
" piping times of peace," from exercising her bel”.
punt propensities open the kering of his Majesty's
_
liege subjects.

REPORT of the CO M MIL E SZ E. 1211 BJef7s.

(Coroiruei from the IAV Of Elt:Jrei 7v.)
Mr. .14n Colikge called in tocarti le I.
Wl:at profession are you o 1 ?—zin er....!ineer and
iron-founder.

In the course of yoer prole ; ss.or, arc yo:: c,,rvorwiwt
with the nature of SteAm•engines e-1 made
stverAl.

Where do you live?—lr. Br;dge.road, I.lmheth.
I believe yuu are the pAtentee of the p.,,:nt axle-
tree ?—I um.

Did yoo go to Norwich in consecriencc of the ac-
cidtnt that happened to the steam-heat there 1--I
aid, in company with Mr. Dunkin and Mr. Brown.
Did you go at the request of any person-?—No, it
was •nlunt:!ry, from an 'in,pression the public mind
would be alarmed, and wi:!1 to knew the came of the
acciJent.

Did you see the bniler, or any of the remaining part
of that engine ?—I
Do yon attribute the cause of that erplosirn to the
construction of 11 ? I dn.

Be to good :ts to state what it was ?—The bailer
was compored entirely of wrought iron, except one
end, and that was capped with cast iron.
The cylindrical part seas o! wningitt it 02 ?....Yes.
It was a high pressure boiler ?—lt was.
Originally it had all been wrought nor, ?—lt had,
I believe.

But npnn an alteration thcy put one cud of c:l_r
iron ?—Yes.

Was not such a conjunctinn of metals in such a
place very dangeruera ?—Cer
Principally because die expansion of the metal is
totally different in one and the other ?—Yes.
What is your opinion, as an engineer, in antpect to
the material of which boilers in general shorlil be
made ?—Any material under very severe pressure is,
liable to fail, and cast iron for this reason, because in
all large bodies ne find that the air caunot
escape in the act of fusion. I have occasionally had
large masses of cylinders and pans to br—k up, ant:
we find frequently cells where the ai. could not escape,
so that we are never certain as to the solidity of cast
iron; there is certainly a much i‘oreat,.r d:!;:t'neence
upon wrought iron or upon wrought metal; perhaps'
it would be better to include crplier.
In wrought iron therein danger Irene cold shut ? Yes.
Supposing an accident should happen to any boiler,
which would be most likely to be attended with the
greatest niischiet, a cast iron or a r ron7lit iron bode: ?
Cast iron, because cast iron flier riff in fragments,
and wrought from tenaei:y. early rends.
Did you ever hear of an accident in a wrought iron
Miler when it has exploded, that has done any cnn-
iiideriNe roischief ?—I was almost upon the point of
tielicsing that wrought iron boilers would have re•
silted a degree of prcbeure, it properly made, beyond
what 1 fuid they will do a because an accident has
occulted at 'Wen, where a Wier, nineteen fret
iong,., was bloun r ff trom the teat of its connection
.1;11 tl.e base. I have found, in making wrought iron
boilers coo it I na!ke them of Areal of a con-
sidera'ule substance, that thil vonot be so well unit-
ed. to make them steam tight ; it is a very
thing to do ; how fist that is the case with ewe:, I
have no acquaintance, but perhaps it would not he
precisely the CM with cnpper ; tie rivets that are
applied to wrought iron boilers are put in hot, and
wir:n they are hammered to secure the joint, they get
cZ,IJ, of course they shriek, and do not fill the hole
through %Well they have passed.
The wrought iron boiler which you stated burst
was not applied to a boat ?—No, for a salt v:ork.
Is it your opinion, as an engineer, that any boiler,
whether of wrought or of cast iron, but particularly
of wrought iron, Could be m ide by the construction
of safety valves, so secure, that all danger from it
would be almost impfy.sible ?—At present I have no'
conception that any &fifty valves could be applied to
render them perfectly secure under heavy pressure. ,
Is it your opinion, that if a boiler was originally
constructed of wrought iron, to bear a pressure of
1001bs. to the square inch, and that such boiler bad
been tried by experiments, say at sixty, and that a
safety valve was Applied to it which should open at a
pressute of thirty, such a boiler would be liable tribe
exploded ?—Niit unless it had been previously strain-
ed by the CM/CI iisient to render it too weak.

Cannot a safety valve be so made that it shall open,
and be certain to open at a particular pressure ?—The
satety valves ought always to open at that pressure,
but from CAUSCS that we cannot ascertain, that does
not happen in cases where accidents occur ; it is to be
hoped that safety valves will be contrived to answer
for high pressure engines.
Would it not be possible to apply to such an en-
gine as that a tube with a column et mercury ?—Yes,
And it would be 4 judicious application ; but it re-
quites such an altitude, 1 appretiend it is not very
easily applicable to boats from the agitation of the
vessel ; but it it could be applied, it is the best ap-
plication that can be made.

lit the low pressure engines rite general safety is
by a column of water ?—Yes.
That could not be used on board a boat ?—No.

Then you think the mercurial gatif:,e v..ould be the
greatest satety for a boat, it it could be applied
Certainly ; it it could be judiciously applizd, it pos•
scsses gicatts Safi ty than any other.

I-Live you scen steam-boats on the Clyde Of Hum-
ber ?—Nu.

You know those on the Thames?—Yes.

What rs the greatest power that would be required?i
—The condensing engines should not be more than
four pounes to an inch ; and if the capacity of the
vessel allows of it, the condensing, engines answer.
every purpose, because you can have one cn board
more tnan buil:lent for the tonnage ; because the,
making a wrought-iron boiler would be on such a
scale ot thickness, that if more than the usual pres-
sure was applied the rivets would fail and constitute
a security against any fatal occurrence.
Could not a boiler then be made for what they call a
high pressure engine, equally safe should appre-
hend rot, for the reasons I have stated; i have made
several boilers, and I End if the plates are thick beyoad
the dimension usually employed for condensing en-
gines, that they do not prove equally steam-tig!it.
Explain whether you mean the plans or the seams
I mean that the seams are not equally steam:-tight.
Did you from any report you heard, besides the bad
construction of the boiler at I•krwich, discover that any
negligence was imputable to the direction of that en.'
gine ?wilt was gresurazd by report WO w iivr

dent frequently; for the pntpose of impelling. h:e 1
with greater force,tbathe ''is enin,
Did you see any body who had tseard ir. t
accident is•ho MIS on board the h., it !—/ •.
If there w ts too much wogh.. •,•I•.led V. :•e,
would not that occasion the en,ll4or. to :s u I
doubt thot was the case; hot a much smalo:r 't r.•.•
of pressure would Lave torst b 'i!tr to com.:tute.l..
Then if a butler had Leen ny:de :)ropf!rty. n.. 1
man had been so imprlid•-ot a•,, .
safety valve, t!'e same accident r oect:::edt
—Certainly.
You have said, from the ;10%-f ti•lt seas wi•-,•,cd
with regard to steam •J•t,....-.••••. •
engines were the best for th.tt put
pose ?—I think so, no doubt.