Star.
London, England, 1817-06-23 00:00:00

TESTIMONY or• AIR. SOW! I.S.

" On his first interview with Mr. bcbul.e4, Owen said, 0:-tr.
he was charged to present Sir Francis tomplimerts .J
hint, and to inform him that he was delegated by the 13ar..x.er,
Lord Cochrane, Major Cartwright, Mr. Hunt, and other Gen-
tlemen, to examine into the state of the country, and to learn
whether the country meant to sit down with their
king rejected or not. Mr. Scholes said, he could not speak far
others, but for himself he must say, that though he believed he
was among the most zealous of the Parliamentary Reformers in
Wakefield, be would go as far as Petitioning went, but no far-
ther. Some conversaticia then took place on the subject of the
Wakefield Petition, on which Oliver observed, that it was
very good, but it did not go far enough." Mr. aclioles replied,
that they did not mean to ititerfere any further, and he referred
Mr; Oliver, for informetion as to the views of the Reformers,
to Mr. Hurst, the Printer of the Wakefield Fatima, Mr. Deal-
try, sae of the West Riding Magistrates, Mr. Egremont, a
Wideman of independent fortune in the neighbourhood, and
other Gentlemen, who had signed the Petition.
" Mr. Scholes cannot say whether Oliver applied to these
Gentlemen, but in point of fact we believe he did not. His dupes
were to be found among the distressed and the ignorant, and it

was to those principally that he addressed himself. Oliver then
requested Mr. Scholes to furnish him with the names of 'itch
persons, in the neighbouring villages, as were favourable to Re-
torm, which he did, and, amongst others, he mentioned John
Smaller, of Horbury. Having thus far felt his way, Oliver next
proposed to Mr. Scholes that he should accompany him to Man.
cheater mid Liverpool, on his political mission, and prommed
that be would limb pay bis expenses, and satisfy him for his
trouble. This proposal Mr. Seboles declined.
" Some time after, Oliver again called at Mr. Scholet'4, and
proposed a walk into the country, to examine the nexly ere ted
Asylum„ seating that be bad sousaskill In architem..ne. Durieg
their walk -the subject of Parliamentary Reform was resumed I
and Oliver observed, that Sir Francis Burdett and the other Gen-
tkmen by whom he was delegated, were astonished that the
country was not mote alive to the subject of Parliamentary Re-
form. I asked him,' says Mr. Scholes, what he meant by
behig alive,' and he f eplied, if petitioning will not do, we rust
use physical force." Physical force,' rejoined Mr. Scholm,

dignantly, ' the country must not be thrown law a state of in-
subordination, and I will have nothing to. do with plunging the
Nation into anarchy.' Thus repulsed, Mr. Oliver dropped the

.The third and last time that Mr. Oliver called upon Mr.
Scholes, it was for the purpose of inviting him to attend a meet-
ing, which Oliver said he bad appointed, at Penistone, in this
Riding, for discussing a plan of Parliamentary Reform. This
meeting Mr. Schoks positively refused to attend, telling Oliver,
at the same time, that he believed be was a bad man, and that
he would not only not attend this meeting himself, but he would
also dissuade any other persons, over whom he slight have any
isifirience.trom attending it. He further saked him his tenon
foe staying so long in this part of the country, as be must be sa-
-1 defied that his project of resorting to force would not fie encou-
raged Oliver replied, that be did nut dare to return to London
till the State Trials were over, and, oa being asked the rause of
ids fears, lie said be had assisted young Watson in effecting his
escape•
ig In this conversation Oliver esprev.ed himself dissatisfied
with the apathy of the country, in proot of which, be said he
had appointed two tuts:tiny at Huddetslacid, and wisen be ►et

:!.ere no: a single Individual Ka4 ittehied. At pitting,
Chnlel nil to Oliver, No*, Sir, I beg, that froth this tintei
willmmer tell upon me again. In anoints OE the evening,
..vtral mm, were drinking in Mi. Seholea's bous4 told
I'm tb.tr Oliver had appointed a miming at Pennines the next
e,y, and asked him his opinion of Oliver and his masers.; to
wb •:h he replivd; • for Coo's mite beep Wain Olives' and his
metings, for he is a base 'Min.'

From the period of the Prolamin meeting; Which, we be•
11, re, VMS held on the tit of June, till the eye of the 'rhombi);
:meting on the rich of Juke, we have so specific information
re-
speccing the operations of Mr. Oiler, but we understand, that
a little before the time of the former miming, this Maousgary
nude a Journey to London, and that, in the interval; he was tn.
*Wbg about to the comities of Nottingham, Derbyshire, Staf.
toubbire, aid Lanttashire, bbouring; no doubt, Whir Vocation.
roc the lichiour of human nature, we hope that the use made by
Mr. Oliver of the itamis of Sir Francis Burdett, Major Can.
woe., and others, Was not authorised by Ministers; but after
suit a spenmen of the vile arts empkiyed to traduce the Mends
4 parliamentary Reform, we are not in future to be surprised at
apt calumnies that may be propagated against them:
u We have already stated, from the testimony of Mr. Winans
and Mr. Dickinson; how Mr: Oliver was engaged in goose parts
of the day on Friday, the OM of June; and the grateful feelings
of one of the persona discharged by the I.4asisvetee on Monday
bit afforded us a clue to his promedinp in the early as well as
the more interesting parts of the same day. Last Tuesday moi-
mng, a person of the name of Thomas Murray, one of the Leeds
Dtiegates, io called, waited upon us, to express his aehaowtedg•
siesta, and the thanks of the persona who had been imprisoned
pith him in Wakefield House of Correction, for the services
which they conceived we had tendered to them in coin:touting
to their liberation, by exposing the real conspirators. After he
hal explained his !Maness, we inquired bow it happened that be
Ltd attended the meeting at Thornhill, and what was the stature
of his delegation t To this he replied, that be would explain the'
whole matter, as far as he was acquainted with the business, and
the following htnative, which was delivered in the meat artless
manner, he is ready, We understand, to confirm open oath;