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London, England, 1816-11-29 00:00:00

toady to barter fora Borough. (Near, and lord crier
of 4. ektier." )
Mr. WAIMMAN, in point of order, submitted
whether such gross affrants ought to be tolerated.—,
He detested such on n inly pens nalniev. It the Ho-
' soar,. .1. G liema•l levelled them at him, he was
, urea. .; ; k All \ must neve dealt on hearsay.
In whatever passed between him (Mr. Waithm)
and Mr. Smith, there was nu person present who
could :u... present the tact in the manner it had been
alluded to. Again he begged to say, that he .dis-
daintd• to indulge ai person aides, and all be should
add %viand br, to mecca repetition of the insinuation
with a rejoinder of its being false.
Mt. Dricia--'s There are those present who know
the fact "
Mr. H.IIIIVFIr said, that he was not of either party,
but thought the indulgence of such personalities stn-
fair, as they prevented persons from taking a part in
the deflate, who really came with that intention.—
(Bear, hear.)
Mr. WAITIIIJAN repeated his disclaimer of the im•
putation.
Mr. Drxoti repeated his assertion, and said, that
such things ought to see the light.
Mr. WAITIINIA,N-." I now call upon him to chew
htiw I ever bought or sold such an interest. Let me
have an Answer. Does he say I did or I did not ?
The alternative is at his choice." (Hear, hear.)
Mr. Dix )a—" Alderman Smith says you did."—
. (Cries of .6 Order—Shame.")
The LORD Maicon spoke to order. He did not
like to he fur ward in exercising his interpteition : but
there was obviously some mistake, as Maidstone was
well known to be an open borough.
Mr. Drxoa continued. He thought that what was
called a Reform in Parliament would be one of the
most dangerous experiments that could be made.
Men's minds were not cool enough for it : and it
should not be forgotten that Old Sarum had once
sent one of the must flaming patriots—Home Tooke
Parliament. Some of the largest towns in
the kingdom, such as Birmingham and Manchester,
bad gone on and prospered without any representa.
don in Parliament; and he believed that the respect-
able inhabitants of those towns would think that one
of the most mischievous apples of discord was thrown
in amongst them if they had representatives by ge-
neral suffrage, accompanied with annual parliaments.
If we were all to reform ourselves, it would produce
the best reformation of the State.
Mr. FAVSLI. proceeded to develope the ground-
work of Parliamentary Reform, as laid down by
Mr. Pitt, in his early parliamentary career, aril he
described the increasing character of its necessity to
be such, that it must either get rid of the people or
they of it, for matters could no longer rest in their
present situation; like the military officer who said
to his soldiers, a My boys, there is the enemy—you
must kill him, or he will kill you"— (Lauskter).—
Bo the want of reform would kill the people, it they
did not reduce the hydra. The Worthy-Gentleman
then ridiculed the arguments of those who approved
of Reform, but who cavilled as to the period of try-
ing the experiment; and be now called upon those
who in time of war postponed the consideration until
the arrival of peace, to fulfil their pledge, or else to
acknowledge that their promises were insidious—,
(Hear.)—He (Mr. Ravel!) was not prepared to say
that the people were not somt.times misled by violent
advocates—he however thought that Spa-water. now
and then, did them no harm. He concluded by ex-
claiming, in emphatic terms, that British feeling,
under a proper constitutional course, must prevail,
and the time was at hand when that triumph would
.be apparent—(Loud oft/awe.)
Mr D. W. klaaveat confessed that this was a sub-
ject at all times of most commantliog, but at the pre-
sent moment, of irresistible importance ; it required
disinterestedness, as well as judgment, to consider it,
and he hoped thatevery one would sacrifice all those
notions which party was too well calculated to inspire.
He would not flatter himself that he was capable of
entering into this subject with all its bearings, but he
would confine himself to a few leading features; and
that no misapprehension might arise, he wished, in
the first place, to declare that he was the decided ad.
• vacate for what was termed Parliamentary Reform,
but he was equally deaious to accompany this decla-
ration by stating, that he was only an advocate for
that reform which was practicable, nor did he Think
this was exactly the period in which such a measure
should be introduced. He was friendly to Parlia-
nientary Reform ; but it was'a reform of a particular
kind, and accompanied by due modifications. The
actual condition of the people, their peculiar charac-
ter, circumstances, and prejudices, were always
to be taken into the account in every wise or ra-
tional scheme of Legislative Reform Wattle. )
--What sense was there in 'a theory, however plan.
Bible, which would place the rich man on the same
footing in point of elective franchise as the poor man,
him who had a deep stake, with him who bad little
or none in the value and consequences of its exercise?
He desired, however, not to be understood as opposing
any thing but the principle of ~Ong and indefinite
Reform. To practical Reform he was a sincere ad-
herent, and deemed it absolutely essential against the
present corrupt and overwhelming influence of the
Crown. That influence was never more dangerous
' than when it was surveyed with indifference or apathy.
But he must confess, that to him it appeared some-
what absurd, iu the same breath to vilify the charac.
ter of Parliament, and' petition for its immediate
assembling. Why did they wish for the meeting
of a body, whom they represented as so corrupt,
and so completely perverted from the ends of this
institution ?. He did not see how any man, who de-
sired to be admitted into that body,could consistently,
Or-reasonably, inveigh against its contamination.—
Here he asked, too, whether Manchester or Sheffield
had suffered from not being represented, he must re-
ply in the negative; nor did he believe that they
would at present prosper more from the possession of
the elective franchise. He had always thought that
silent votes were the best mode of signifying popular
opinion, and could see no practical advantage likely
to result from an extension of the suffrage in the pew
• sent form of its exercise. With regard to practical
Improvements, k appeared to him also that the dis-
franchisement of nonresident voters would be of con-
siderable importance. He could, however, lee no-
thing but mischief in the proposed vague and inde-
finite petition; and if it was necessary to petition
upon such a subject he thought it was their duty to

Oat oat mime epee& and practicable means of ne-
olisplishing die object of their prayer.
Mr. Deputy JACKS submitted, as an amendment,
the propriety of a Compsittee being appointed to con-
sider ot the Corporation subscribing 1000 guineas to.
wards employing the poor, and to confer aod act
-with the several-Livery and Chartered Companies in
applying the same, and other monies to be collected,
to that purpose.
Mr. DAVIS objected to this amendment being pin,
as it went, in the MOM informal manner, to get rid
of the main question.
Mr. Bits:m.7s seconded the aniendme,it, and said,
that the original motion was of the same temper and
spirit as those produced in field meetings elsewhere,
but more dangerous, because it was under the sanc-
tion of better and more respectable company. (Hear.)
Mr. DAVIS begged to recall the Court to the real
question--Whether a Reform in Parliament was or
was not necessary I He believed no person present
would meet his proposition wide a negative. It was
paltry, he observed, to meet the general question
with an amendment for a grant of money to relieve
the present distresses of the people, as if those who
advocated the Main point were adverse to such bene-
volent grants, or disinclined to contribute to them.—
He disliked such finesse as that displayed by the
Gentleman opposite (Mr. Harvey), and he also cen.,
donned the sort of amendment proposed. If the
City ied 1000 guineas to spate to the distresses of
the poor, in the name of Gun let it be given, it could
not be better applied. But such a donation could
have no reference to the decision on the great ques-
tion then before dieC:ourt.—(Hrer. )
Mr. Swops avowed his full And unqualified assent
to the principle of Parliamentary Reform, in its
broadest basis. He was the advocate of annual Par.
liaments—and he was sure, that if the Members had
to make the annual return to their constituents, as the
Gentlemen composing that Court had, they would
not be less honest or less effective ; or was not the
greater chance that they would be a faller specimen
of popular npinien, and peiliaps hold their places by
annual election longer than that space of time for
which they now assumed to themselves a right to sit I
He hoped the Honourable Gentleman opposite (Mr.
Harvey) would excuse him for doubting his aincurity
when he talked ot being an advocate for Patliamen.
tary Reform. • (Hear, hear.)
Sir WILLIAM Cuaiis said he was anxious to deliver
his sentiments on the present occasion. 11 when he
solicited the vote •of a Liveryman for an homier
which he most highly prized, that of being one of
the Members for the City of London, he were asked
by an elector—" Will you vote for a Parliamentary
Reform f"—he would frankly answer, s' No, Sir ; I
am quite satisfied with things as they are—(Cries of
hear, hear, and great laughter). —He would add, at the
same time, that it might not be amiss to set orm in
some things. The Constitution, like an old pen,
might bear a little cutting and mending—(Laughter).
" But I believe, in my conscience," said the Worthy
Baronet, " that what many mean by Patliamentary
Reform is Revolution—(Noire acd conflaioa
stead of doing good, it would do a great deal of
mischief." Such was his opinion of the matter, and
he would never hesitate to declare it. As to the
present distress, it was partly occasioned by the bad-
ness of the harvest, not in this country only, but in''
others also • and in this view the people should be
taught to bear it with patience as a dispeasation of
Pnovtoescs.
Mr. Hauvze entered into an explanatory defence
of his former speech, in which he endeavoured to re-
pel the charge of insincerity brought against him.—
At the same time as he was friendly to a Reform, he
must be under the necessity of vetine for the original
question rather than the amendment.
?Ali Alderman Goounsueue professed himself as
unaltered in all his opinions on the subject of Reform,
and declared himself to be a willing and steady ad.
vocate of that glorious cause.
Mr. Dixon stated that he did not support the
amendment proposed by his Worthy Friend ;—but
would choose the course ot negativing the original
question, rather than meet it in any other way.
Mr. WAITtIMAN then rose to reply. With resew
to the observations .ilade by the worthy Gentleman
opposite (Mr. Dixon), he did not think it worth his
while to take up the time of the Court in answering
such personalities. The Gentleman on his left (Mr.
Harvey) had made a speech certainly, but he could;
not really tell what it was about, and lie had little'
doubt, het that if it were weighed, it could not be
ascertained on which side of the question it was. He
had argued upon false premises, and had formed false
conclusionsonder the colour of great sincerity and can-
dour. He had declared, that he was not a sweeping
Reiormer,.but one whn was in favour of moderate
measures and praCtlcal Reform. This assertion
WAS extremely plausible, but he had not condescend-
ed to tell the Court what his moderate Reform was.
As to popular Meetings, he had never any objection
to them, even in the fields when other places were
denied them ; but while every man could meet in his
own ward or his own parish, be was not friendly to
an assembly which professed to call exclusively upon
the lowest order of the people, and which, by being
held in the open air, would naturally contain loose
and suspicious individuals. He had that day seen a
person below the bar whose life had been endangered'
in 1794, (who bad been tried for treason and acquit.
ted) who had told him, that the persons who had ap-
peared as witnesses against him were those who had
urged the Meetings of that day to acts of violence or
indiscretion, which were brought forward as acts to
colour the law which was passed against such assem-
blies.—(Hear, hear.)—With respect to the Worthy
Mover of the Amendment, he thought that the Reso-
lutions he had proposed were ill placed ; but, indeed,
he-was so fond of making amendmeds where they
appeared so clearly to all but himself unnecessary, that
it was scarcely worth while to take any notice of the
present one.
Mr. JACKS withdrew his amendment.
The Resolutions proposed by Mr. WArrustAN were
then read, and put by the Officer of the Court, when
there appeared to be about a dosen hands held up
against the Resolutions, and the rest in favour of
them. Most of the Members against the Resolution
then went away, and a division was enfarced, when
the numbers were as follow ;,-1 Alderman, 78 Com-
moners, 2 tellers-81 for the Resolutions, and three
Commoners against them.
Whereupon the Lou) Maxon declared the same
to be carped in the arinnative s. ea a Commkise

was appointed to withdraw, and, assisted by the law
officers, to prepare the same. It was afterwards pre.
rented to the Court, read, and agreed to. It was then
tittle:lid to be fairly transcribed and signed by the
Town Clerk, and presented by the whole Conn.

POGICE.
Bow-mite T.—Yesterday there was a long investi-
gation of the robbery which Palely wok place in the
house of Charles Cholmondeley, Esq. of Cleveland-
square, of which we some time ago gave the leading
particulars. The house, it will be recollected, was
obbed whi k: the family was in the country. Nothing
new occurred in the course of the ezaminatiori, after
1 which the in isoners Smith and Wells were fully com-
mitted for trial.
Thomas L;ght and Thomar Butler, two well-known
Resurrection-men,under went an esamination;charged
with being concerned with two others in breaking
open the house of Mts. 'Cartel, et Eastrey, near
Sandwich, in Kent, an old widow lady, and stealing
Bank notes, coins, and valuables to a large amount.
They were remanded.
A Jewess, who states her name to be Wright, and
who is one t►f the prostitutes who nightly incest Co-
vent-garden Theatre, was held to bail for an infamous
assault on ene of her companions, whom, on Friday
night, she had pelted, in the Saloon, with burning
coals, and on Vstedoesday had beat and torn her
clothes off, to the great disturbance of the Theatre
on both occasions.
Duel. PREVENTW.--TWO young medical students
met yesterday to fight a duel m Copenhagen-fields,
in consequence of a dispute which originated at an
anatomical lecture on Monday. The female friends
of one of the parties gave information to the Police,
and the interference of the officers prevented the duel.
One was held in sureties to keep the peace.

Benjamin J4nross's (one of the conspirators, men-
tioned in the liacoaDFit'S Report of Tuesday) case
was not made to the Pitmen ititGaNT, as inserted by
miaake.
Friday last, in a complaint brought by the Procu-
rator Fiscal of Kirkcudbright, before the Steward
Depute, against two farmers for a breach at the
Sabbath Dey, in carrying in their corn on a late
Sunday, the Steward fined and amerciated them in
ten pounds Scots each, in terms of the Act iGBI ;
holding the plea of necessity, urged by the defenders,
as no justification for their breAkiiig, the rest of that
Holy Day !—N. B. A pound Scots is Is. lid.
Tuesday night, between nine and ten o'clock, as
Mr. Ca.eby, of Lemon street, Goodman's-fields, was'
returning from Dartlord, in Kent, in a post chaise,
accompanied by another Gentleman, the driver .hav-
ing aegfited at Blackheath, leaving his horses while
he went into a house, they took fright, and set off at
tull gallop ; they had proceeded about ball a mile
when the chaise came in contact with a cart loaded
with dung, with such force as to overturn the chaise,
which was very much shattered ; fortunately neither
of the Gentlemen were much hurt.
Tuesday as a man was getting into a loaded cart,
at the bottom of Acton, the horses we frielit, and
ran ref, and the cart failing on him, he was 'killed on
the spot.
In the storm of Saturday se'nnight. as three wo-
men and two children were going to their homes, at
Freeborn, sixteen miles south of Inverness, they
iniss:d their road, and perished among the snow.—
'Chi ir bodies were found on the following Tuesday,
within '2OO yards of their own doors.
Friday se'nnight, a short distance from the public
road, in the parish of Tweedsmuir, there was found
by-WILLIAM Diescsox, shepherd, the body of a man,
who, it appears, was a servant to a Mr. Trieeme,
cattle dealer, near Carlisle, on his way to Edinburgh
but had perished by the cold, on the night of the
Tuesday preceding.
Monday se'nnight, the driver of one of the chaises
from the Lion Inn, in Wrexham, after driving his
fare to Chester, set out on his return home. The
night was extremely dark, and the wind blew a Imre
ricane. On arriving at the Rosset Bridge, ebaut six
miles from thence, it is supposed the mil oritnare
driver, who was inside the vehicle, with a passenger,
missed his road (some say he was asleep) ; the hie ses
took the ford, when, painful to relate, the rapiefity of
the current swept chaise and horses down the sueam.
Next morning one of the horses having disengaged
itself was found grazing on the river bank. The
other horse, chaise, postillion, and passenger, how-
ever. have not since been heard cf.
The inhabitants of Hampstead have made a sub-
scription for the employment of the labouring poor,
in altering and improving the highways and footpaths
of the parish : and it is proposed by the inhabitants
of New Bridge-street and Chatham-place, Blackl, lets.
with the seine benevolent view, to form a small fund
for regularly sweeping and cleaning the pavement
before their houses every morning during tee winter.
Thus may we entertain the hope, thetehe momentary
pressure of distress may, in many instances, lead to
the adoption of measures conducive to the general
cleanlinees, health:, and comfort of society.
Sunday morning, during Divine Service, the beadle
of St. Peter's Church, Manchester. discovering the
church to be unusually full of smoke, examined the
stove, and found, that owing to an aperture in the
flue underneath the west isle, the fire had forced its
way, to the floor ; little denger- was apprehended till
the sermon was nearly over, when the congregation
took the alarm. The Churchwardens, who bad, in
the mean time, got assistance, came, and with the'
cushions damped, stopped the fire, which was issuing
from the flue, and in a few minutes the alarm sub-
sided, and the fire was got under, but net without
considerable damage being done to the church.
The new Chancery Court, in Lincoln's-inn-square,
has been erected with a rapidity -that induces the
suitors to bore it is a happy presage of the future
promptness of the decisions within it.
PARIS FASIIIONS••••0111' milliners bare a new colour—it is the,
colour ran& (an odoriferous plant). They make te.eila hats in
velvet and ratio of the same colour, or in me& velvet and rote
satin. They continue to line and trim the black velvet bat, with
deep yellow and lilac, but oftener with lilac than deep yLllow.—
Tke black velvet, with trimming of the same, is sail in great fa-
vour. Slippers, with high quarters, and buckltd at the side, are
much worn by the women, like the men. The new spet•cers
are all open before, and in _bias, with or without lapel.. The
new Merino riding costs are generally white, and trimmed at
' the bottom with two bands of white satin, very brow!, and
at a distance trom each other. Carriage coats of light cloth,
er =sinter, are ash-colouked grey, and have three edged
capes, very little, oae above the Wow, and which fall very low.
Tho Merino robes have a Oohs sidle of a small finger's breadth.
Tits frogoh or SWIG sof ditsb plaits;tted Ia a bancb, era sueeressede