Star.
London, England, 1803-05-21 00:00:00

♦DDITION•L &TAT, TAMS.

Lord HAV/lIISIWRY faid, he was commanded
by his Majelly to lay feveral other Papers before
the Houle. With regard to the point upon which
an Hon. Gentleman had required information,
viz. the violence which had been offered to the
property and veffels of his Majelty'a fuhjefts, he
could not inidertake to fay that all the Papers
which related tr that point were new prefented to
the Houle, becaufe all the Papcts of Lord Whit-
worth had not yet arrived ; but he was inclined to
think that there would be enough to give the lion.
Gentleman the information he required. He had
likewife prefented the papers relative to the Cape
of Good Hope and Loulliana, and Alb a difpatch
fent to Lend Whitworth, the objca of which Was
to fbew, that though there might be no written
remonllrances refpeeting the continuance of the
French troops in Holland, yet that his Lordfhip
had inflruelions what language lidwas to hold hi
his converfations with the French Isliniacr upon
the fubjed.
Mr. GUT raid, he fhould move that there Pa-
pers be printed. If% any further papers Humid
be neceffary, he had no doubt, from the candour
which the Noble Lord had difplayed, that they
would be prefented. He walled, however, to fay a
few words upon thelall difpatch to Lord Whitworth,
w!iicli had been jolt prefented. Thisdifpatch was in.
tended to thew that Lord Whitworth ha.4ceeitei
lollrutlions to hold certain language refpectog the
continuance of the French troops in Holland. He
'thought it important to remark a little upon the

Rate rn which the Negotiation Rood on this point.
The continuance of the French troops in Holland
was Co important a fubjeet, that he thought there
muff necefrarily be fame official document refpedt-
ing it. At all events, fomething further was tie-
ccifary. There could be no doubt but that Lira
Whitworth, in obedience to his inftrudions, made
reprefenta ions to the French Government upon;
this fubjest, to which he muff have received an-
fwers ; therefore it certainly was in the power of
Minitiers to give further information refpekling it.
It appeared alio, that upon many of the inoft
portant parts of the Negotiation, verbal communi.
cations took place between the Secretary of State
and the French Ambairador here ; and certainly it
was as material that die Honfe fhould know what
paffed here as well as what paired in Paris. The
I official communication between Lord Whitworth
I and the French Miniiler had been communicated
' by Lord Whitworth, but the communications of
the French Anikafrador here, and the Noble Sim•
tary's anfwers to hem wre not givn. In ons,
dui the Negort e iation, the Noble Secretarey of
State was certainly liable to greit refponfibility
but that relponlihiiity would be much increafed if
there was nothing to refer to but his memory-ispon
the fubjed. Thefe communications muff, he fop-
pored, have been putt into the (hape of an official
record, and therefore he hoped it wo,.ild be laid
before the Honk, becaufe, what a fituation would
the two countries be placed in, fuppofe they had
the means in France ( which they certainly had not
. of difeuffing the meafures •of Government, and
that communications were made of the'Rate of the
Negotiation to the Legiflative Andy ? If the !acne
: delta prevailed there which was Rated to prevail:
here, and that what paired at Paris could not be.
laid before them, although what parted fierceoul4
the confevence would be, that both. countries
would be debating the Negotiation upon totally
different grounds. When a Negotiation was
carried on in converfation, it midi be obvious that
it might receive different colours, accacdiug to the
feelings of thole by whine it was reported. He
could not, believe, that fuCh important matter;
could haie paffed without foam record, which he
hoped there %mold be no objeflion to communicate.
Lord HAWK ESIWILY laid, he believed that 'the
propofition of the Hon. Member was entirely news
at leaß lie did not recoiled any thing fimilar to it -
nor did he fee in the cafe which the Hon. Gentle.
man had put, any grounds for it. With mrpeit
the general points of the negotiation, they were
carried on in Paris and not inlannelon ; but it was
perfeaiy true, that in the courfe of a negotiation,
when the jubilance of it is carried on ia another
country, it might be convenient to inform the
Ambafrador of that country of the nature of the
infiruSions which had been given, in order to COW.
vince him, if it could be done. of the jußite of out
demands. But with rape& to the general courfe
of the negotiation, it was carried on at Paris ; fag
if you were to negotiate at two different places, it
would create enders confuficm and delay. When
he was employed time time ago in negotiating
the Preliminaries of Peace here, be took care that
the difeuffion Mould be in Inch a Rate that they
might have been laid before Parliament if the No.
gotiations had failed.
Mi. GR64 fail, that when he had laft night
moved for fame information refpeaing die conti-d
nuance of the French troops in Holland, he wall
told by the Nobic Lorchlicre bad been 'no reprej
.entation upon the fubjea. A Right Hon. City.
tleman «ho rat near the Noble Lord, sterb
were no written communicationverpeaing it. Hh
underllood from this that the communicationshall
been made here ; becaufe. if they had been mulls
in Paris, they would have been detailed by Loril
Whitworth.
Dr. Lev/Itasca raid, he agreed that every cut.
lateraland trifling point of a negotiation whim
was carried on in another place could not be ex•
peeted to be communicated; but the withdrawing
of the French troops•from Holland appeared to
him onB of the moll important parts of the whole
rubjel, although the Noble Lord bad laft night
called it an infulated point of the NegotiatiOn.
Lord HAWKSIBURT replied, that the Hon.Geo-
tleotan bad mifunderaood him ; he was fpealcieg
of the French Commercial Agents who had been
fent over here.

Mr. SHILIDAW laid, it was not of much impor-
tance that papers were prefertted, unlefs Members
knew that they Humid have an opportunity of
reading them ; and he could not help fuggelting.
that as many Members had not had an opportunity
of reading the papers, it might be better to pa-
pone the difcutlinn which was fixed for Monday.
He agreed that the Houfe ought to come to a de.
citron as expeditioufly as poffible ; but at the fame
time, there ought to be an opportunity dreading
and confidering there papers. There were fame
rumours in circulation, one of which related to Mr.
Talbot's having left Paris, refpe&ing which hs
wished for fome information, if it could be given.
Lord HAWKISBUP v Paid, that with regard to
the queftion with which the Hon. Gentleman had
concluded his fpeech, he could only fay, that no
authentic information had been received of Mr.
Talbot's having left Paris, nor did he know that
I'ortalis had left London. With regard to the
,rumours to which the Hon. Gentleman alluded.
and which he had heard, he took them to be fe-
-1 ports which were totally deftitute of foundation.
11 He lhould be very ready to put off the difcaffion
beyond Monday, if any ftrong ground was Rated
for it, but he really did not fee that the palera
which were now prefented rendered it necelrat7.
hecaufe they did not introduce any new faa. They
related to Louitinins and the Cape. There were
Ws which were generally known, though it might
be proper that they fhould be regularly laid before
the Houle of Commons. As there papers, there-
fore, did not communicate any new faa, and were
lint very voluminous, he law no realms for putting
off the difcaion.
Mr. CANNING Paid, be fhoold feel great objeaion
to the putting off the difctiffion beyond 'Monday.
Any further papers that might be moved for.
might be neceifary to enable Parliament to form
a judgment how far the Negotiation had been well
or ill concluded by Knitters ; but that man mutt
be hard to be convinced, indeed, who, after a

perufal of the papers which had been laid before
the Houle, was not prepareti 11, decide upon the
.h.t cattle of this coontry. It was withi
this view thnt he looted los ward to the •
tili difcuLlioni
tnilay. tlinii4lit that very important'
d ,ciirvu!,fs were n.,5.% bLfooe the Houle, hut at the'
fame time there were chafms in ihem, which ought
to te tined up, to citable the Hook to come to a
jtidAnient oh the conduit of Milliners. He was
up• n aloe grounds againd any delay in the 61
which. might give the enemy reafon to
th•
Mk that P.aliament entertained fume doubt upon
the Intik&
Dr. LaweF act agreed with the Right Hon.
Cent:Lin:ln „b•, (poke Lin : he hoped the diteut-
lion on Monday would be confined to the general
point of•the justice of the wai, and that the Houfe
would not go into the other and ulterior confide-
ration.

Mr. WHITBREAD withed to know whether (ince
the departure of Lord Whitworth from Pas is,any
frefh communication had been received?

Lord H&wKassue.v faid, he had no difficulty in
filing. that he had fern a Note, which he fhould
have no ohjetlion to lay before the Houle, if it
could be regularly done ; lint there had been no
Fropofiti‘ n made in any official way, which his Ma-
y4'6 Minillers would be jullined in laying before
the Howe.

Mr. WHITISILEAD (ail, he wanted to know whe.
ther any fubaantial information had been received
which it was materialitse Houk lhould be in pof-
feffion of t whether officially figned, or not, he
Ihould certainly move for any fuck information.

Lord Hay/assayer raid, that a Note had been
P"fented the robßance of which he had no ob
pawn to lay before the Houfe. Propofitions were
fumetimes prefented in a confiden:ial way. which
made it difficult to lay them regularly before the
Houle : with regard to the fubilance, however,
Miniflets had no objediriato communicate it. It
was true that a propolltion had been made upon a
poflible ground .:f concluding the bolinefs, but it
was upon a ground In inadrnillible that Minificrs
could not receive it, and therefore did not dente it
to be put into an official Owe. It was a propoli•
tion which this country could no: a:cede to, con-
fiaent with that good faith and open coaduS which
Great Britain always held to other countries.
Lord Ts are laid, he was fatisfied with the an
Aver of the Noble Lord ; but he wifhed to know
whether Mr. Talbot had been left in Paris for the
purpofe of negotiating with the French Republic?
Lord Whitworth had left his Secretary at Paris,
and General Andreoffy bad left his Secretary in
London. The Houk was told that Mr. Talbot
was left behind on domellic purpofes only ; but he
could not imagine that the Secrztaries of an Em•
barn could be left behind merely to pack up trunks
and 'fay bills.
_ . . _

L'orci HAWISSIBURT raid, he had no befit ition
in raying, that Mr. Talbot was not left in Paris,
nor, as far as he knew, M. Portalis in London, for
the purpofe of concluding any negotiation what-
ever. The former was left to take care of different
papers belonging to the Embary, and alfo with
reference to the Britiffi fobjeds who could not im-
mediately leave Paris.
Mr. Garr would not inquire into the precife
nature ot the communication, or whether it was
admit ble or not. It was of extreme importance
that the Houfe lhould at leall be acquaiuted with
the fubttance of it. He could not but fuppofe it
to be the counter-projet which was to have been
delivered to Lord Whitworth, and he trolled that
the abfence of official firm, and its having come
through a circuitous channel, would not be made
a reaf-n fit refuting to lay the fibilance of it be-
fore the Houle. Such a mode of communicating
information to the Houfe was not unufual, it had
been retorted to in the begii.iiing of the lad war.
It was alto defirabie to know whether no other
communication had been made to Miiiiilers fince
Lord Whitworth left Paris. As for delay, he
Mould not prefs it, though he entirely agreed with
his Hon. Friend, Mr. Sher clan, that there would
be more advantage gained by a perk& confident
lion of the cafe, than from any over expeditious
Or precipitate difcuffion of it. If the Houfe won't('
but paufe, and he hoped they would, the more
ample and minute the information that was laid
before them, the lefs Rrong might be found the
cafe of violence and aggreffion. For however
*tong that cafe might have appeared in the fit*
inßance, yet fubfequent explanations might, in a
rut meafure, have done it away. Thefe were
the explanations which lie felt fo anxious to ob-
tain, becaufe they might materially contribute to
guide the Houle in the judgment and opinion they
were to pronounce on the prefent critical fituation
of the country. But as he was now on his legs,
he mull beg leave to ark another queltion of the
Noble Lord, and that queßion referred to reports
which were this day very generally circulated, and
which fccmed to be taken from the French Papers,
viz. that the Emperor of Ruffia had interpofed his
mediation for the adjutlment of the differences
now fublitling bet Ween the two countries. On
this point be was extremely defirous to be accu.
sately informed, and he waited to know if any offi-
cial communication had been made refpeding it ?
Lord Hawse:suite profefed his readinefs to
afford the Hoak every information in his power ;
and he perfectly agreed with the Hon.Gentlemau
who (poke lan, that no deficiency in mere point
of form fhould preclude him fiom communicating
a fad on which the Houle could be enabled to
form a judgment. The communication that had
been made (ince the departure of LordWbitworth
from Paris was conveyed in a way that might jut
tify him in concluding that it did not come from
the French Government, though in his own mind
he had no doubt of its authenticity. Indeed it'
was his intention to have Rated it to the Hoofs on
Monday next ; nor would he helitate to flute it
now, if he was lure it would not provoke any pre-
mature difciiffion. If A sessertil try of bear Logo!)
The communication that WAS thus made to him
in an unofficial mariner had for its °hied to pro-
p,* an arrangemeia, the ful)llance of which was,
that we were to be left in poffeirsun of Malta for
Rand number of years, provided France was per.
mined to take pollifilon of Otranto andTartniturn
tar the fame umber of years. Asti, the ptopofed

mediation of the Emperor of Ruth, the report
was fo far founded in fad, that his Imperial Ma-
i jelly, while he feemed difpnfed not to interfere, had
generally exprelfed a with for the maintenance of
peace ; but it did not appear to him that his Im-
perial Majclty had fent any precife inftrations for
bringing his mediation to any diflina point what-
ever. The whole appeared to him on the p:ut of
the French Gove-rnn-ent to he merely calculated
to pi otrat the negotiation and to gain delay.
Mr. WH I T BREAD alked whether the Noble Lord
had any objeftion to the prociation of the Nr,te?
Lord HAW KESBUR Y laid, he requefled a 111011
time to confider and make tome inquiries upon
the fuhjeft.
Mr. SHERIDAN fubmitted the propriety of hay-
ing laid before the Houfe an account of the re-,
monarances which were made by our Arnbatrador
at Paris, and the manner of its reception, on the
fubjea of the French troops not having evacuated
Holland.

Lord Hawatsatray laid, in anfwer to what had
been thrown out by the I-lon. Gentleman, that
' Lord Whitworth did not make any diftinet remain.
armee upon that fubjea. He was not aware of
I any other aufwer to be given to this queflion, for-
-1 th.:r than that which appeared on the face of the
Papers now before the Houfe.
i Mr. SHERIDAN Aid appear to him that
' infromation upon this fohjefl was important ; f„r
if it th add appear, that tkele remongrances were
treated with dike and or contempt, it was one of
the wont arts of France towards this counti y. It
w. 4% to be prectitilvd. at all events, that Lord
Whitworth obeyed his initri9ions. Thefe infiruc-
lions were to make r: ane reprefemations ow the
fubjeet of the French troops remaining in Holland.
Thefe rept efentatioas wereregarded or difregarded
on the part of France. Thvie inttruelirins, as they
appeared in the Papers boort the Houle, Were to
make rerrefcmat ions wit;; model anon and temper.
[Here Mr. Sheridan read that pot of the p; hoed
Papers which relates to the initritetious given to
Lord Whawmth 'Ton this filbjea.] ' Now, hc
obferved, there cou:d be no doubt. that Lord
Whitworth paid due attention to fuel' initrneti-ns,
and made his rerefentations with temper and in,-
&ration ; Tl'a ct•trid there be airy (look bit that
be reported the manner in wilier.' his oeptefenia.
lions were received—thole were the documents he
wanted to fee, for they were not at prefent last,re
the Houle.
Mr. CANNING fetid, he conferred that this Linea-
, meat appeared to him to be of the &II importance
' In the whole of the difettflion AS to the cattii tit
t iis country againil Fronc.i. It made a material
Lature in the con:luta of the Government of this
country in the negotiation with France, and there.
fore be wilhed to ark his noble friend the Secretary
of State, whether or not any formal remonflrane
was made on the part of this country, either here
to the Ambatftulor, i,r at Paris, on the circumfiance
on the (mita of the Ftench,army remaining in
Holland against the will of the Batavian govern.
ment, and alto againit the provifions of a formal
Treaty
Lord HAWRESSUILY laid, that he had no diffi-
culty in flatiog to his Right Hon. Friend, that no
formal remontirance was made on that fultjeft,
laid lite:will, to the reprefentation made, no for-
mat anfwer was received. The whole point depen•
dal on the general diktat:Eno with the French
'oilier, and it was in this repeat pretty fimilar to
what had paired on many other Cubieas, in which
there was no total denial of fatistallion, but an
evalion on the part ofFrance infiead of fatisfaftion.
Mr. SHERIDAN fat& he thought now what lie
had anted moil material information for theHoure,
that he was more convinced of it, fine be heard
the oblervations of the noble Secretary of State
and, therefore, he moved, " That an humble act
drefs be prefeoted to his Majelty, prayin_g he will
'be racirmay pleafed to give direftionr&r lards
before the Houfe an account of the manner io
which Lord Whitworth's reprefenration was re-
ceived by the French government, on the fubjet
of their not having withdrawn their troomfrom
the Batavian Republic."
The CHANCE LIAM of the Escrtegyea faid, he
hoped the Horn. Gentleman would not perful in
his mutton, tinier a difkinft underßatoriag that if
the documents to which it referred, were fuch as
might be produced, they &told be laid before the
Horde on Monday neat, for he would not have it
be imagined that hecaufe there had been no com-
munication upon this fubje& it therefore had not
been under the confederation of government. Nor
was it to he fa concluded, becanfe there might be
no communication upon that fubjea from my
Lord Whitworth. Government had alfo a Minifler
at the Hague, and he had the belt reaAin to ex-
pea that the French troops fhould be withdrawn
from Holland jolt before the moment on which
his frfajelly's melfage came to Parliament, and
which had terminated in holtibties. He meant
this not as an argument, for argument it was none,
but he meant it to prevent fome obfervations.—
He had already aid, that we had another Mini-
fter at the Hae, and that a Reprefentation was
made to the French Government from the Bata.
vian Government, and that at one time there was
every reafon to believe that the reprefentation
would have been attended with rum& If the
Hon. Gentleman would for the prefent withdraw
his motion, his Maiefty's Minilters would confider
of the matter, and if the documents referred to
were in the Office of his Noble Friend (Lord
Hawkelbury) all poffible and regular information
Ihould be laid before the Houle.

Mr. &faunae laid. he could not perfiß in his
Motion after what he had heard from the Right
Hon. Gentleman, although the information he had
called for was of the utmoß importance ; but here
again he could not help repeating, that this was
an additional redo* for delaying. for a few days.
the general dikulDon of the &Nett
Lord HAW ~,,,,,, faid. he fhonld not have ,
any ohjeEtions to the propofed delay, if he were
not apprehenfive of tome ferious inconveniences
from it, luch as had been already Rated—namely,
that it might appear as if there was in the Houfe.
an unwiiiingnefs to come to the dirculGrin of this
important fubjelt. He meant to maintain one
general point in this matter, namely, that tatough.

oat the difenffion, there was, -on the part of the
French Government, a difpofition not to refule
fatisfsnory anlw•er_, on various topics, but to
evade them.
The CHANCRLLON of the LXCHtQt'FR olifi.rved,
that there might be Orme Papers relating to the
Communication, between the French and thellinch
Governments which ought not to be produced.
Mr. Cs e. laid, he undertinod that although
Lot d Whitworth had not communicated to Go•
yernment that which was now the fubjed of de-
hate, yet, that our Minifter at the Hague, Mr.
Lidoti, had done fo.
Mr. CANNING Paid, if the Communication of l
Mr. Lifton was fati.faelory to Government, and
fo important as it now teemed to be on the fub-
jeft of the French Troops evacuating Holland,
Knitters would have much to do in their endea-
vours to convince Parliament of the propriety of
with•holdiug that Communication. If Mr. Lillon
had received affurances that the French Troops
would be withdrawn from Holland, and he tvanf-
mitted th•rt information to the Minifters of this
Country, Lately they ought now to produce that
information to Parliament.

Mr. Jommsrour referred to certain information
in the Papers og the Table relating to Malta.
DoElor Lawrascr callcd to order, and laid, he
conceiv,:i the Hon. Member was irregular at pre-
fent in alluding to Malta, becaufe stoother qtref-
tion was before the Houle.

The SPEAKER laid, that he certainly did under-
hand that the l'rfution of the 'immutable Gentle-
man (Mr. Sheridan) had been waved. 1.11:tt at
prefent there was nn Qm.ftion befme the finufe,
and that therefore Mr_Pinfim might nnw proceed.
Mr. JOHN TON k then adverted to that pa: tof the
Documents cn the 'fable which related to the re-
tufal of the Empert.r of Ruda to garritim Malta,
and aficed for femme further Documents upon that

Lord Hstogrseuttv obfcrved, that there WAS N
diftind propaition that his 7.l3jefty's Government
Mould garrifon the iflattd of Malta, and that the
lime principle which actuated the Emperor of
Ituffia, &owned his condr.tt at this moment. He
thunght, however, that in regard to the various
Motions which were making, that fome previous
n .tice Ihouhi be afforded to the pet fon who was'
likely to furnifh the information required, in order
to lave the Houle a great deal of trouble; and on
the ptefent oceation he would wills the Honourable
Member to delay infilting on any fuch Motion
now, feting what he had already laid, might be
lufficient as a previous notice for fome future op-
portunity..

Gent al GA SCOYN a role, he faid, during this
im-
portant dilcidfion, for the purpofc of moving for
certain papers relative to the ifland of Malta, and
the Italian Republic, previous to the figning of
the Preliminaries of Peace, and this he did in pnr-
ittance of the notice be had formerly given. He
laid he Ihould not now find it neceffary to go much
at length into the matters embraced by tbe pa-
pers he alluded to, owing to the motion of an
Hon. Member embracing feveral of thofe very pa-
pers he wilhed. There were certain points which
however might differ, and to thefe be thought it
neceffary to call the attention of the Houle. It
had been Rated by the Secretary of State, that he
thould on Mender only produce loch papers as had
reference Jo the period fubfequent to the Definitive
Treaty, but thole which he pow wilhed for were
previons to *hat period. Theft, hrfaid, *ere inti-
mately conneaed with the others, and enlefs the
Houle knew the nature of both, they could have
but a confined and narrow view of the fubjea.—
The motions were four I three of them of the na-
ture he had now defcribed. and though there bad
been objetlions made to them on a former occa-
lion. be mulled thefe objeiions would not be heard
upon another occafion. The &II motion he pro:
poled was" for ccpies of all retnonftrantes of the
Maltefe, with the anfwers thereto, from the tit of
Oaober, ificit, to the lag day of March. with a
copy of General Graham's manifefto at that time."
On what ground any of thefe could be refilled, he
was at a lots to conceive ; and he thought it the
more material to move for fuch papers, teeing that
throughout the whole of the correfpondence relative
to Malta a very material alluflon had been made
to that point, and it appeared from thence to be
the foie or chief obliacle to peace. The next mo-
tion he would make was, " for a copy of all re-
prelentations and remontirances made by the Bri-
tifh Government, refpeaing the affomption of the
Italian Republic and the lOAnd of Elba, and the
annexation of Piedmont as an integral part of the
French Republic, fubfequent to the 'treaty of
Amiens." There, he Paid, appeared to him to be
as neceiTary as the others, being alto frequently
mentioned in the correfpondence. His next mo.
tion was," for a copy of all orders or counter or-
deri iffued to any Governor of iflatuls in the Well
Indies, fence the conchefion of the Peace, relative to
the evacuation of the fame." This, he laid, was in
order to compare the dates with thole of the papers
now fubmitted to the Houle ; and it will be a mat-
ter of confederation, whether it would not have
been as proper to retain thole Mande, as it was to
retain Malta ? We might, perhaps. find that there
were not fufficient grounds to retain them, or we
might perhaps find caufe to lament that any of I
thole places were given up. The motion which ,
he would make was, he Paid, of a nature which had
been already anticipated, but he fubmitted it to the ,
Hoof, for their opinion and ccnfideration, it was,''
" for any letters or information received from Mr.
Llano, containing the reprefentations or remon-
firances made relpeaing the armament in the Ba-
tavian ports." In his opinion, notwithßanding
all that had been Paid, there could be no danger
likely to arife in communicating any thing which
came from Mr. Ligon, and unlefs tome explana-
tion was afforded on this point, he and others
would be inclined to think that reports of fuch an
armament acre merely for the purpofe of an ex-
cafe mean out the Militia. At any rare, it would
thew that his Majeßy's Minifters knew pretty well
what was to be the relish of the negotiation.
Lord Hawsasayxv obferved, that there was no
fort of iuformation refpeffing the Weft India
!lauds, which his Majeity's Government could
liars the kali swiss ter wiAboldisg. As to ties

motion refpeding the Nfaltefe commuricuinns, an-
tecedent to the Tria:y of Amit.ns, if it were to
be liflened to, he did not know %%ien the difctif-
lions w:,uld flop, as it would open an tittiiely new
field. He begged leave to read to the H ine the
answer which had been returned by the Maitele to
the notice they received from t!, G •veroment,
that they were no longer to form a part of the
Empire of his Britannic Neils,. This letter, he
itifornied the Houle, had been deiivered to hit
j flajetty's Secretary of State on the id of April,
after the conclulion of the Definitt ve Treaty, and
was.exprellive of tl:e tamoll friendfliip and grati-
tude on the part of the ',Ureic toward, this coon-
-1 try. Ile objected to all the motions except the firft,
relative to the Wclt Indic., became no Pal liamen-
tars, ground had been fated to chew that any pof•
fible good would acerne from the invedigation.
Mr. WINDHAM Laid. he conceived that national
dignity and honour, and nati,n.ll Linty and intereft,
were 11:theicnt parli..ment.try ground, to jtalify
the predations. With regArd to the Pipets
rela-
rive to Mlit.t,which matcri.,ily teaarded the rights
and intereas of the in'taidtall, he thei.glit that
there were vety ennt:alittr t y accounts i•t th:!t:atif-
atft;ms at that (init, and iihieed tuch as wee.. oft:
fatly opnolite•to one anolter.
The CHANCF.LLOR of doe EYCHE,ySIt appre-
hended, chat when his lion. Friend had mention-
ed twat there wzre no Parliamentary grounds, he
meant that there were non.: fofficient to make thefe
matters applicAb!c to the difeiSion for Monday.
It h.!s hated by the lino. Nicinber, that there
was a certain dewee cf rnifcondal on the part of
h's .Majffy's Government, as to the treatment of
the Mattne, when makin3 cilium:mica:ions to Mi.:
nittet sat the Lite Treaty. lie has, however, been
&I:rived in this particular, for there were no in-
di.tnitii:s offered ; no infulting I,i,timerit was ever
uttered by a fing!e: Member of the 13:i. Govern-
ment; nor did he himfelf ev-r h,ar of fah an
allegation till now. He thought the predation
of any papers cm the fubjelt v.as perfeelly impro-
per at the relent moment, and therefore objected
to the motions with the fame exception as Lord .
Hawkiabury had previoufly
Dr. LAwasact contended, that the documents
now moved for, were matetially conneCted with
the Papers that were to form the fuhjea of difeuf-
lion on Monday next; and that it was neceittry
for the Houle to know what were the sentiments of
the people belonging to a place which we Bill kept
in our poireffion.
Mr. GI .00sty Laid, the papers then moved for
were of the (=on importance, fo far as regarded
the charaCter and honour of this Country, and
therefore he would fupport the motion for the pro.
duff ion of them.

Colonel GR•HAK Paid, that as he was in Coma
refpeds yerfonally involved in the prefent queftion,
he thought it incumbent on him to fay a fewwords.
When be had the honour to command in the Ifland
of Malta, be did publills an addles to the inhabi-
tants: but be had no inftrudions from Govern-
meat to do any fuch thing. He had only receiv-
ed a general order from General Fox to a& in
that relpeft as he thould think proper. He there.
fore thought the produdion of that Paper would
be totally ufelefs, unfelt, they were moved for the
pur pore of throwing blame upon. himfelf.
The Sec aaaaaa AT Wait obferved, that it wag
generally admitted the Papers now moved for
could not apply to the queltion which was to CORD*
on next Monday. He would not fay bet that on
Come future occalion the Papers might le moved
for,
in order to enquire whether t e honour and
charoder of the Coentry had been injured.
Mr. WARD thought it abfolutely neceffary that
thefe infamous lies which had been propagated
concerning Lord Hobart (hould be done away.—
It was impoffible to fuppok he would have told
the Maltefe deputies to come to his haute to (peak
to him, but not to thew themfelves at his office left
be thould give offence to the French Government.
He wished to know from his Majefty'i Ministers
what foundation there was for fuch a difgraceful
ireport
The CHANCELLOR 07 Tnt Excompla faid,the
only anfwer he had to make was, to repeat what
he had already Rated in the courfe of the debate :
' tiamay.that he neva.r heard the imputation thrown
out until he came dawn to the Houle that day.
Mr. Casesino (aid, he attached much more im-
portance to the incidental quellion arifing out of
the Motion before the Houle, than the objed for
which the Motion had been made The additional
light which thole Papers might throw epos 'the
correfpondence was trifling, compared to the man-
ner in which they now involved the honour of the
Country ; and as the Right Hon. Gentleman had
Rated that thefe Papers might hereafter be made
the °Weft of a feparate Motion, he felt no anxiety
for the produdion of them at this time. He could
not help eXpreffing his indignation at the reports
that bad gone abroad concerning the condo& eifa
Noble Secretary of State, who was a Member of
another Houk, and he trufted in Goo they would*
on a proper enquiry, appear to have been all a
fabrication. _ _ _ _ •

The SICIITART at Walt obferved, he did not
fay that he &mild hereafter agree to any motion
that might be made for the produeltitsd of Papers.
but that the motion then before the Hoofe, as not
being connotted with the debate of Monday neat.
would come more properly in the alape of a feps.
rate motion hereafter. and he obje9ed to it now,
on the ground that no motion for Papers, which
were intended as the ground of a charge againft a
Milliner, ()mold be made without a previous no•
tice. It was inconGftent with the praOice of the
Houfe to do fo. _ _ _

Lord Casr AAAAA Gm obferved, that the promo.
tens of the prefent motion, when they found it ha
no application to the debate on Monday nest,
changed their ground, and converted it into a
charge again& his Noble Friend, who was now is
another Houfe of Parliament. If this motion was
at all proper, it ought to he a motion to lay a
I ground for a criminal charge Aga;nd Lord Hubert.
In refuting the prefent motion, he begged to ba
andel-flood as not pledging himielf to agree to it
when it Ihould be made again. He would now
barely content himfelf with obterving, that if there
was say fosadatio is tiba upon of the =ids

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