Star.
London, England, 1819-05-12 00:00:00

At first the Secret: rat War elipresied d wish to have
the whole Rseiblishnient investigated; but whert he
(Mt. Grwit)M*Ni the. Noble lad tbeitsetioiv he its'
tended to stbinit to the HooseViha was astonished e
bt,toltVtitat'the Papers toolilworbe gftmitid. 'repo
'peartid' to him a ituestiosuble iseetteotwto eitablishasp
Opthalsttic Hospital, when the disease (first
from Egypt) was rapidly debliningtin this ArtnY.l/4 it
' also appeared to hirh singulai, that the patients should
he taken from under the care of ArMy Surgeoni,
who had made the diease their study, and plat
ender the care of an Oculist who never was in •the
Atmy, and of whose abilities he could neither speak
in praise nor dispraise. He thought it a fit subject
inquiry ; if not on the score of economy, yet to know,
why this Hospital had been taken out of the hands of
the Army Surgeons ? He then moved, for Reports
respecting the Opthalmic Hospitals, especially the
new one, at the head of which is Sir W. Adams.

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Lord PALMERSTON thought that the House
would be of opinion that the Motion was umiecessary.
There was an Opthalmic Hospital at Bognor, but the
treatment of the patients was altogether unsatisfac-
tory. He did not say this to cast any reflection on
the Officer who was at the head of that Establish-
Ment, who, however, thought he should have been
placed at the head of the new Hospital ; but some
Chelsea pensioners having been placed under the care
of Sir NV. Adams, by way of experiment, and by
Iteport of Sir H. Raiford, Dr. Ilaillie, Mr. Ashley
Cooper, Mr. Cline, Mr. Abernethie, &c. it appeared
to have succeeded much beyond the method of care
adopted, by Mr. Saunders. On this account, Site
W. Adams was placed at' he head of the, new EstiJ
bliihment. It was impossible to employ Sir W.
Adams in an Army Hospital, and therefore, at fine
a portion of the York Hospital was set apart for it/
Up to the present moment Sir W. Adams had diva
charged his duty without 'any remuneration Whatevei;
leaving it to the Government to grant him what
might be thought a fair compensation for his la-
bours. • Sir W. Adams had succeeded in relieving
many who had been unsuccessfully treated by Mili-
tary Surgeons. He read several cases in proof of
this ; among others, that of a man who had bean
blind for 17 years, and wis").so far relieved by Sir W.
Adams as to distinguish what o'clock it was by a
watch. He read a letter from one Army Surgeon to
another, requesting him not to interfere withothe eyes
of two men whom he wished to set up as proof that
Sir W. Adam's method of practice was liable to pro-
duce relaßses in diseases of the eye. This letter came
to his hand, in consequence of letters on army busi-
ness being transmittedthrough the office of the Secre-
tary at War, in order to save expense of postage; but
they must be open, and not contain private business ;
and the Clerk, whose duty it was to inspect them, find-
ing this letter not on army business, brought it to him.
The practice of Sir W. Adams had been the subject
of printed controversy, and by the decision of the
public, it ought to stand or fall ; and not be brought
by motions for papers before the House. As to the
Establishment itself, it did not cost 'abovi 15001.
a-year ; and he wished Members would-inspect it, to
I hear the gratitude ofthose who had been relieved from
being a burden to their friends, and who-have been
restored to comfort in thoevening of their days.
Sir J. MACKINTOBbi said, -the question was,
whether they would enquit% into the origin and con-
tinuance of this Establishment? The judgment of all
Europe was, that our Army and Navy Medical Offi-
cers had contributed greatly to the advancement of
their science. The Isoble Lord ought to have men-
tioned the name of the writer of the letter he had read,
in order that the House might•know whom to repro.'
bite for such unworthy conduct, and in order that
the medical men might not be generally prejudiced
by the conduct of one of their body.
Mr. BARHAM thought the papers that had been
moved for were totally unnecessary to form a judg-
ment in this matter. The Hon. Gentleman observed,
Ithe expenses of the Establishment of last year were
£931. The expense of curing a poor man who had
lost his sight in the service of his country, was un-
worthy of consideration, but if only two men were
cured in the year, the saving of the pension of £2O
a year to each, would prove more than an equivalent
for the whole expense the Public wore put to in the
course of the year.
Lord EBRINGTON also agreed with his Ha
nourable Friend in the high color= be had uttered
on Sir W. Adams. - '
Lord CASTLEREAGH thought the House was
travelling a little out of their usual course, The duty
of the House was to consider whether the establish-
ment was necessary, and the expenditure economical.
Both these points were acknowledged. The House'
had never, on former occasions, 'attempted to inter-
fere in the appointment of either the Military or Me-1
dical Staff of the Army ; and he trusted the House
would not now sanction a motion which appeared to
have that object.
Mr. i. P. GRANT replied. He still retained the
same opinion as to the propriety of the House hay.'
ing the information for which he had moved ; but as
the opinion of the House was against him, he should
not press the question to a division.
The several motions were then put, and negatived
without a division.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT moved the Order of the Day for
the second reading of the Clerk of the Peace u. Ireland Regu-
lation Bill.
Lord CARFIAMPTON opposed the 11:11, urging that the
law, u it now stood, was equal to all its objects. The Noble
lawd wished for delay, and therefore moved, that instead of rowi
the bill be read a second time this day fortnight.
Mr. COURTEN AY defended the Dill, the object of whichl
was to place the dace of Clerk of the Peace an Itelat.l ur. the!
same footing as the same office stood in Pngland.
Mr. CROK ER defended the Bill on the same grounds.
Mr. C. GRANT kilo supported the Bill, and apprmed of the
proposed Amendment. •
24r. CALLA GIiAN did not consider sur.cient gronnd harL
been made out foe depriving the Custos of this part of his pe-,

A question of no common interesti as regarding
the feelings of the country, and the,honnur. of this
nation, came before the House of Lords; lan'
we mean the naireAer! (fOF .we cAtu;lut; upr ;ever Will,
r4ll. it. tne wilt other names}-=Aoniriter our fel-
loiv-sabjects and count-m*lh' AuslikiiNoT and Au-

BUSTER by tbelkilltOrieral; JACKeetli
Lord Liishroca; s toord• bArlitatar deny the
right of this country to intenisit, en.the ground that
;drape two unfortunate men (uirtoitunate, would ap-
4rear, in being British subjects,) placed themselves
without the protection of the Government of this
country, by entering the service of *foreign Power
without the KiNci's consent. Where is the Act of
Parliament, or Order in Council that requires it ?
Where there is no law broken there can be no for-
feiture. Allegiance and protection are reciprocal.
What man by his own act can annul his allegiance?
If he cannot, no more can the. Government cease to
owe him protection. A man may indeed, by entering
the ranks of a foreign Power, expose himself to all
the dangers of the war, and if he meet with a bloody
conqueror-he may be refused' quarter, and so be put
to death: nor can his legitimate protectors in such a
cue demand any reparation. But that is not the
case before us. JACKSON put these men to death as
outlaws"—a crime for which, if it existed, they were
answerable only to their own Government. He might
have put them to death as men in arms in the field ;
but to try them for one offence, and then to turn
round and say they Wight have been put to death by
another process, is a species of vindication which
cannot satisfy any person whatever.

An important Return has just been Made td the
House of Commons on the subject of the National
Debt. It is, we believe, one of the Papers Moved for
by Mr. PASCOE GRESFELL, for the purpOie of ascer-
taining how far. the Public would be tamers were
the Commissioners for the RedUcliOn of aie Nationaf;
Debt, instead of laying oat their funds Ifi buying up
the already tingdast of the *gantry to employ it
(as by Act of IParhament'tfiet yin iiiithgrised) in con=
sit
lancting fdi the Wholenr.s. ' AAiiy new Loan that
I pay be Wanted far-'"tlia liuutirivice 1 The year
ilf4i'benit'sao ' dilti:iiii this point is that
eitiling-lptli.3tiir!i, ISIS: TReaisiditat of the Sinking
Fundy for Wit yiai viisininbiieYll 8,407,298. 95.4 d.
lad flsere wins rased bt Loan .fai the service of the
same fear the Rini of f36;00104,000.- 'l4* it appears
that these • thirteen mi)llOtkcitixd*ldi, having been
& mime raid out in ' • of oleMO per Cents. the ca-
pital:stock • ' n'ed, or, fti Whir words, redeemed,
was only' 432,608.- 91.1494.'; whereas,... had the
Corinnissioneri 'paid thandinefinto the Exchequer
in exchange for mar. • of the ' new. Loan of
06,00,00% as ' d' bilie been deliverable to
theM at the rate and °lithe mina upon which that
Loan Wai'. contracted for, and raised, the Capital
Stock which they would have acquired, in the Three
and Four per Cents. 'would have amounted to
£24,669,4213. 10s. 7d. The nett losi therefore which
the country Suffered by the mode in' hich the Fund
was appropriated—by an adherence to the absurd
system so long pursued of paying off debt with one
hand, while we are borrowing for the purpose pro.
portionally more money with the other—was no less
than £2,136,923 6s. 10d. This is evidence official ; the
keport of the Commissioners themselves..; a fact not
by any possibility to be either qualified or disputed.
Let us apply then the important lesson which'this
fact affords, to our present cirennistanciss. A loan
is wanted for the service of the current year, of about
Twenty Millions, and the amount of the Sinking
Fund for the year is about Fifteen Millions. If these
fifteen millions are subscribed as part of that Loan
vice shall be gainers, as this Return Waves (supposing
that there is no material disparity between the circum-
stances of the money-market in 1819 and what they
were in 1816) to the extent of between two and three
millions; and vicc versa, if they are not subscribed to
the Loan, but appropriated as heretofore to the re-
detription of old debt, we shall, with our eyes open
to the fact, be adding between two and three millions
to the' already enormous and dittressini amount of
OF national burdens. • We einhotl#erefin-e, permit
ourselves to doUbt'for a moment, that the appropria.
tion of the Sinking Fund,. in its fuklest estein, to
the services of the year, by. way of loan; still be part:
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of 'the Financial l!rojeCt for the year, leaving • only
about five ,mdlionalo be raised lii the.' OPen rtuirlet.
Were only i'litlndreckh part 'of 'the. mini anticipated.
saved by the measure, it is gnat enough. in timis•Of
indispensable retrenchment:like theresent; to decide
the propriett.,of its adopt n, t.vitryt proipec! of
gain is onthe side of Mr. thientices proposition ;
and. it willihe -nothing' short of madness io persist in.
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Clerks of the Peace should continue ip office; be knew one Clerk
of the Peace who, by extortion, had raised hiaincome to 53cLii.o
a:year, and set all attnipts, to remove, him et defiance. . . 1 .
Mr. CRON:ER did not wish to continua in office any Persimi i'''%Ve..r'--44t5-- r". siiicfeiruiric-w. , ,
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