Star.
London, England, 1803-08-11 00:00:00

HOUSt OP COMMONS.

Mr. Srea Kea having taken the Chair,
A perfon from the 'fax.Office prdented (metal documents, pur-
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Captain MA R Elia at prefcntcd fi.veral of Accounts, Wised.
ing Britiih Affairs on the Coalt ot Africa—Ordered to He cc the
table.

An Officer prefented at the Bar, the fifth Report of the Board
of N.ival Enquiry.—Received and order d to be printed.
A nicffage from the Lords announced their Lordiltips' agent to
the following Bills, fens up by this lioufe, viz.—The Ovange An-
nuity, Eschewer Bulb Country Defence Amendment, Stamp
Duty Confolidation, Tax Confolidation, Militia Ann:od-
es nt, Scott A tiny of Referee Amendment, Canada Courts, Arne-
, Lin Alignment Bonding and Warehoding, Tortola Free Port,
loreign :vote korgery, and London Defence Bills.
Ciptain H.t Rls N pttrellteti a Petition front the Captains Obis.
Mayfly's Navy, praying that the powers of the Board of Naval -
juicy may be extended to the conduct of his MajAy's Prize Courts.
Sir W. Scuvr fold, he did :lot rile to oppofe the receipt of tl e
Petition, but to read a letter which he had received from a gallai t
and houourablc Admiral (C 01.,. 11,) dire:aiming all concern with
this Petition, on behalf of himfeif and his brethren, and declaring
his and their willies to abide by the difcretionary jet:lid/Rion of
his Mojelly's Prize Courts; and the Hon. Member read, in his
place, the letter to this effect.
The Petition was received, and ordered tons on the table.
VOLUNTENKS OF THS UN rran KINGDOM.
Mr. SHEIIDaa role to bring forward his prosnifed
motion of thanks to the Volunteers of the United
Kingdom, for their alacrity, fpirit, and patriotifrn on
the prefent arduous octal. n, and (poke to the folloW.
ing ellen :—Sir, when I announced my intention to
bring forward a motion this day in refpen to the Vo-
lunteers Corps, I expreffed my confident hope, that
the motion I had to propofe was inch as would meet
the unanimous approbation of this Houfe. And I
should not hare brought it forward this day, Wit was
not in fuch a way as I conceive the leap likely to ex-
cite debate or difunion. This I confefs may be rather
difficult to manage in the prefence of fome Gentlemen
whom I kill now fee enter the Houle (Mr. Windham
and Donor Lawrence) ; but I do entertain the hope
that .the Refolution may be Coffered to parson this loft
day of our meeting, before a long reparation, without
any debate that can mark any sentiment different
front the mot perfen unanimity and concordance. I
could have wither!, Sir, this motion had been brought
forward by fome of his Majefly's Miniflers ; but per.
haps it may not be left grateful to the feelings of there
towards whom it is intended, coming in a Volunteer
way, from one who difintereftedly volunteers his
humble services infupport of his King and country at
this arduous moment, beeaufe itthe better art:Dilates
with their (pink, though it comes without the weighty
importance which thclothority of his hlajelly's Mt.
niters might be supposed to cqnfer. I Shall limit wbat
I have to fay within as few words as poffible, bscaufs
I feel that in canvalling for unanimity, the left I fay
the more likely I dull be to obtain my with. In
(peaking of the merit and fpirit of the voluntearcorps,
I would be underttood to allude to all the Yeomanry
and other volunteer corps of the whole united King.
dom, not omitting thofe which have been railed by
the Duke of Northumberland and other patriotic
Noblemen and Gentlemen at this important period.
They have all come forward with a degree of (wit.
of alacrity, and ardour, to arm for the defence of
their King and Country, that, while it truly charac-
terises them as free Britith fubjeas, relied' immortal
honour upon their names, and will record them in
the hiffory of their country. as an example of pa-
triotifin and national fpirit, worthy of imitation
down to the remotaft pollerity. Sir, before Pt all
upon you to propofe to the Houk the motion I mesa
to offer, I feel it neceffary to make time obrervations
that Rrike me upon the fubjen of volunteer Service.
A considerable difference of opinion has obtained is
many parts of the country, touching the paper con.
bunion of the Anwhich has lately palled this Houle,
as it relates to the exemptions from the Army of Re-
feree, or other compulfory duties. This is by many
mifunderilood, and by many it has been contended,
that the Volunteer. notwithilanding his inrolment
in his particular corps, and the expeAce to which he
may have been put in providing his uniform and ac.
courremeats, and the. time he Shall devote in attend-
ing the drills of his corps, is Rill liable, under the
compulfory power of the conftable, to attend the
drills in his pari(h, of the population on raaA, and to
be called ortto ferve with them, or to be balloted for
the Militia, or the Army of Referee. Now, Sir,
were this the cafe, every man who has entered a
Volunteer Corp., at considerable expence to himfelf,
will naturally fay, leis expence and alacrity Rand
him in no Read, and he might as well not have come
forward to volunteer his Cervices. and gratify his
choice in being enrolled with thofe with whom he
willred to terve. It is, however. highly necessary
this matter firould be clearly underdood, for lush. I
am lure never could be the meaning of the An. I
have this day fern a letter signed by Lord Hobart.
addreffed to the Lord Lieutenants of Counties, which
explains the intention of the AR to be, that where
any pasta or dillrin Ilan have produced volunteers
to the number of fix times its quota in the Militia,
it (hall be exempt from the compulfory operation of
the AR. But rarely it would be hard that thole who
cheerfully volunteer their Cervices, Should be liable
to the fame. compulfory feverities with thofe who
want the fpirit to volunteer, and render thcmlelves
li-
able to fuch compulfion. I troll, therefore, Sir. that
no farther octillion of ditcontent and conform os
this point may afire. but that it a ill be underßood the
volunteer who (hall have enrolled himfelf previoully
to the date fpecified, and comported Matra accord.
ingly to his duty, will be totally exempt from the
cempulfory power of the conliable, and from all obli-
gation to attend the general print drilling. The neat
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expenfive fide which has been adopted
I molt o' the volunteer corps, is fuels, as I am given
to rinderaand and can very readily believe, has kept
hack many rhoalands of brave and loyal men, v..l:n
would cheerfully join the ranks of their neighbours
and fellow-citiiens, and devote their lives for their
King and Country, butt are prevented through their
in,th,h:y hr afford to put on uniforms to extrava-,
gawly xpecfive. This is a matter scrll worthy of
conlideration and reform. Many thott:'ands had pm-
chafed their infirm ins before anv eligible regulation n
this head could be foggefied; hut I am rue it would
he at,ended with the belt effect, if henceforward the
uniforms of the Volunteers were to be in the plaileft
and cheapefl plan poffible ; and it is extremely de-
firoble, that men of rank and rerpeelability, who join
tinfe Corps, would themfelves let the example of '
plainnefs and cheapnefs in their uniforms, which
would obviate every thing like the filly ()Remotion
and idle notion of fuperiority attached to fine clothes
and glittering trinkets, amongil men who have a
plain common caufe to fight for, and who thould
confider that it is not the finery of a uniform that
is of In much importance as thefirf of which the
wearer's heart Is made. (Hear! bear! hear!) It is
not tawdry and expenfive magnificence, out plain,
hon.: ft, and manly bravery, that can rave the country.
Betides, Sir, it is of the utmoll importance to render
the Volunteer uniform as general as porGble amongfl
the people. I with it to mee: the eye every where, and
be worn by all men in the ordinary courfe of their
avocations. I know, Sir, that in Ireland, when the peo-
ple of that Country fo gtorioully volunteered and
armed, at their own etpence to defend their native
land Apia! the menaced ins/4110n of Frar.ce,the whole
country wore the proud livery of the Volunteer Afro-
ciations ; the artitan in his loam, the tradcfman be-
hind his counter, the merchant in his counting houfe,
the farmer in his field, all bore the infignia of the
Pau iot Soldier. The Honfes of Lords and Com-
mons were filled with Volunteers, in uniform ; the
gallery, if any body could be fuppofed to be admitted
there, was full of them : The Courts of Jullice were
(rouded with them.—Lawyer and client, phintiff
and defendant, jury and witnefs, all wore the fame
patriot livery ; and a judge in that day would not at-
tend to the motion of a barriller who had not a milita-
ry uniform under his robe. I will, it thould be fo
here. I am Pure it would eminently conduce to the
interefis of patriotifm, as well as to economy; for I
am told the expense of a plain military uniform is
almoll incredibly cheap ; and, I am lure that, at the
prefenr,of all periods, no garment, however fplendid
or coMv, could be half to honourable; and, in all
events, the principle, if adopted by the loyal, woald
enable us to diflinguifh who are and who are not
Volunteers for their Country. The next fubjee to
which I would advert, is the places for exercife ; and
I think it is of very great importance that, either at
the expellee of Government or by voluntary fubfcrip-
tion, places for exercife Ihoold be provided, as much
secluded as poffible from idle fpeltators, at leaf' until
the difcipline of the Volunteers thould be pretty well
advanced. Nothing tended more to retard difci-
pline, or aha(h the Volunteer Soldier from approach.
ing the drill parade, where every man mull be a lit-
tle &Award in his fire} attempts, than the idle jeers,
and horfe-laughs of a let of filly, ignorant fellows,
who not having themfelves the fpirit to take up arms
for their Country's defence, wilt to damp the ardour
of thole who have that fpirit, by endeavouring to
turn their early indexterity to ridicule. Many men
there are, Sir, with firmnefs and courage to Rand the
fire of a battery, yet who cannot withltand fuch ridi-
cule. The Duke of Portland, with a libeiality high.
bonouf able to his chatteast, has given up a public
concert-room, his property, in Mary-la-bonne, for the
Volonteers of his vicinage to exercife ; while thofe
of the next dillriQ, who have hired that field called
Lord's Cricket Ground, at a moll enormous ex-
pence, are yet expoled to the.perpetual annoyance
of a crr.wd of idle fpeearors; as every fellow who
can pay 6d. is admitted to the drill ground. I
Should think it by no mc:o:s a flrong meafbre for
Government, at loch a time as this, to appropriate
Stich a piece of ground, as long as neeefrary, for
the fervice of the Conntry, allowing to tie pro-
• prietnrs a proper compenfation.—The next fubjee
to which I with to allude, is the patriotic Subferip•
tint; ?tn.!, fa nobly originated by the Merchants of
the City of London ; and, though, Sir, there are
many high chilies of men, whole names I am alto-
tithed at not having Peen to that fubrcription, long
before this time, yet I moil take it for granted they do
Intend to come liberally forward, in a manner propor-
tioned to the rank they hold in the State, the wealth
they poffefs, and the force in which they mull know
and feel their example mull operate upon the feelings
and fentiments of the Country :—For furely, Sir, it
is at leall the duty of thole who cannot fcrve their
Country in any other way, to come forward with their
pries, and devote apart of their wealth for the encou-
ragement and remuneration of their leave, though indi-
gent countrymen, whole valour is to defend them in the
polfitlion of the whole. I truß, Sir, the fupport of
this fubfctiption will be general throughout the whole
nation ; and though one of its original nbjeas was to
provide for the u idows and orphansof thole who fhould
gloriootly fall in their Country's defence—au objce,
I admit Illghly praife worthy, as well as jull and ne-
cetrarf, yet I Ihnuld hope the fund will be fo Ample,
as to mai:: it prudent to devote a confider:dile por-
tion, in the ließ inflatice, to encourage the valour of
thole whether Volunteers, Yeomanry, or Militia, who
Shall be foremoß for the defence of their Country, by
providing for their wise, and families in their ahfence,
and thereby giving that quick decifion to the fate of
the enemy, %%Lich ihall prevent the meal-ion of or-
phaniiin and widowhood, rather Coat, wait for occur-
rences that (hail demand loch an appropriation of the
fond The next laurel of encouragement to the va•
lour of our brave dereadeis, to whist] I would allude,
is the ••Tnerofity of m ,: y fair Countrywomen and in an
appeal~ o their hearts on this ordinal, occafisr, I ra-
j
ter with to win the caule of their Country to the
a ivitcAcy of their own feelings, than attempt, by any
I inguage if my own, to urge arguments that mull he
to much more eloquently antic ip•ted. I rely that, in the'
gl•oioui caufe r f their Country, the liberality of &t-
-ruth Ladies will not be the haft contPiciiials: and in
this reliance I am lore I !hall not be dilapp-iinted.
With refprEt to the military fituat ion of the Cianaty,
ihall au,,t lay one word. becaare I scifh, if prZule, to
av;•iil involving (elf in stse ferape. It ha% raid,
ti. „ it , ecalsi exchange our V.iiii.teer Ariz!), f I
ruio.s of the Lit.e, it wu,,lJ be a true Wiry to Licictr.:

the Country. I admit it might be a very true way,
but certainly not the only way : to any man who
make; the atrertion, I anfwet, that this may be a very
gnoi ar7otnent to a military matt, ;nit, not to a conlii•
tutional Member of Parliament. Gentlemen who ar-
gue this way, are apt to look over the country with
..that is called a ry.% But in thus rezonnoi•
tring the gtound, they frequently overlook a firtaß,
hot oat urj,r',,),ant firtrrir, called the CoNSTITI,TION.
Sir, if I amalked %khalif:: a force of foo,eoo Troops
of the Line, Cavalry and Infantry, would not be a
better defence than a limilat uumh.:r of Militia and
Yeomanry ? 1 admit it would. But then I add, it
is phyfically intiv,frihle, from the nature of your
Country, to have Each :t force. But then your force
for defence is neceftat iiy, like your Conititution, of
that mixt nature, which belt fecures its own power.
It is computed of Troops of the Line, Militia, Yen.
manry, and Volunteers, and thus contains, within it-
fell, inch principles of di ii in..Ftion as, like party•walls, '
leave to ftrengthen the building. This principle of
divitou, Maury fhews us to be molt falntary for
the independence and fecurity of our Country and our
Liberties. Had our Army been all of one delcription,
examples in other nations would have (hewn the pnifi•
bility of their being perverted to the worn purpofes.
I do not fay it is probable loch an abufe would obtain
in thisCountry,but we have fern in France an army of
the line,lhid to ba attached to their King, and officered
by men whore loyalty to the Monarchy had never been
q llioned, yet, in a sew fhort days, this army de-
fertedie that Monarch, and gave up every thing to
revolution and anarchy. Against fuch a reftilt, the di-
vifional principle of our force is a ftrong harrier.—
Though fo far am I from fl-peeling the pnflibility of
ditaffation amonglt any part of our armies, that I
am convinced there never was a period of our hiftory,
in which the loyalty of the whole and every part was
mote ardent and lincere. I look to the attitude of
the Country at this moment, and I feel no appre-
henfionsfrom anything which the enemy may menace
or attempt. 1 have but one word more, Sir, to fay,
and it relates to fomething which has been lall aids
Majcfly's Nlinillers being furred to treat for a Peace
with the enemy on Britifh ground. Much as I with
for peace, and much as I might be inclined to facri•
See for irs attainment upon any other ground, vet do
I decidedly fay, no peace with an enemy on Britilh
ground ; and I declare firmly, that any Minifler
who would be capable of entering into any treaty for
peace with the enemy, fo long as the batik foot
of a French &Mier trod on Britilk ground, would
defer ye to be attained of High Trterfon, and I would
,myfelf be one of the Ara to impeach him. Having
laid thits much, Sir, I beg leave once more to depro
case any thing like chfunion or peevifh faftion, within
or without there walk. I beg leave, Sir, to recom-
mend, that Gentlemen, when they go froth this day
—the last of the Seffion from this Houfe, may leave
their party fpirit in their feats here, jute as we deposit
our hats to keep our places (a genera! laugh). I beg
that Gentlemen, however unfavourably difpored to
his Majelly's Minilters, may not thew that zeal
without doors that they have (hewn within, to depre-
ciate their abilities, or difcourage that confidence in
his Majelly's Government. fo neceffary at this ar•
duous moment, to unite the energies and uphold the
fpirit of the nation. Such a conduflevery honest
man mutt hold to be reprehenfible, if not criminal,
in the higheß degree. In going forth now to our
refpative diaries, to ufe the language of our immor-
tal Bard, let us
"Part our mingled colours once again,"
and if it feem meet, let us on our return to this Houfe
after the reeds, refume our dillentions ; but let us be
unanimous in the cattle of common danger, and not
rifle in our contention the laity of our Country and
Con fiitution. I (hall now, Sir, conclude by moving,
t. That the Thanks of this Houle be given to the
Corps of Yeomanry and Volunteers throughout the
United Kingdom, for the promptitude and zeal with
which they have affociated for its defence :" to which
fhould the Houle agree, it is my purpofe to move,
that the Refolution he commnnicated by you, Sir, to
the Commanding Officers of every Volunteer Corps
throughout the kingdom. And, in order that their
names may be tranfinitted as a worthy example to
pollerity, I (hall afterwards move, "That the proper
officers do lay before this Houle a return of the names
of all the Volunteer Corps, by the commencement of
next Seffion, in order to their being regularly recor-
ded upon the Journals."
General GASCOIGNE feconded the motion. He
thought that the motion was of a nature which would
not encounter oppolition. Without taking up the
time of the Houfe, he had to beg their attention to a
very few obfervations arifing nut of the motion. He
adverted to the prevailing prat ice of Gentlemen of
refpeftability and learning in the different profeflions,
particularly in the law, entering as privates into dif-
ferent Alfociations. He could not but ditapprove of
this as highly inexpedient, and thought it they did'
take on them the charafter of a fOldier, they &ild
affume the Ration to which they were entitled by their
rank and influence. Inflead of being privates, he
could not help advifing them to aft as offirs in the
Affociations to which they belonged. The Hon.
General adverted with exultation to the number of
Volunteers already training to arms. They were not
Iris than three hundred thoufand men, and many
other offers which had been rejefted on acccunt of
the limitatinn of the extent of the Ivrvicc, were about
to be renewed m a more extended form, which would
collate them acceptance. With filch an extenfive
force as this, with our Militia and Supplementary
Militia embodied, and with the Army of iteferve
daily receiving large augmentations, he trolled that
we fhould not long remain on the defenfive,but would
on the contrary annoy the enemy with vi3our, and he
milled with equal fuccefs. He trolled that we would
threaten the threatener. and (hew a proud and info-
lent enemy that we not only did not dread his attack,
hut polkaed both the powers and the means of an-
noying him on his own Ihores. The fpirit of the
country s.as now high, and prepared for great and
fplendid exertions. He hoped it would not he la
feted to evaporate without promoting lonic great
' triumph. A defenfive war WAS contrary to the fyliem
ptirfued by the ablest Generals. It was a tfyllem con•
trary to the feelings and difpont ions of Engliainren
Nothing reconciled the people of this country to
great facrifices, fo much as the crpeflation of honour
and glory. We had now the means of gratifying
this expelation, and the opium unit y ought not to be
lon. We had, or at leaf mould loon have, a large
difirofablz ll rcc: We had a fleet equal to the' coin ,

b:ned narice of F.uronc, to cover a defcent i 1 an erre-
' my's dominions. We had a drawbridge over the
Channel, ohich we could let down at pleat:ore. lie,
from ev:ry confideration, thong] y recommended the
expediency of off:ofive operations. Before the lion.
General las down, he took occallon to allude to the
propoled cßabliihment of an exclutive Corps of Ca-
valry, confiqing of Gentlemen of rank and fortune.
Ile could not pretend to fay, whether the off.:r of
fervice from filch a corps had been accepted. He had
no difficulty, however, in raying, that he conlidered
the formation of fuch a corps hizhly impolitic, and
calculated to promote no beneficial end He was
convinced tivat the individuals of which it might be
compofed might difpole of themfelvcs much more
advantageously for the public fervice, than by forming
this esclufive as iftocratical eflablifhment. But there
was fornething in the ellablithment which was really
altogether ludicrous. It teemed, if he was rightly
informed, thht flick Gentlemen Cavalry, or at lean
to many of them as could afford it, were each to be
provided with a fervant to take care of their !torte—
(a laugh.) An eltablifhment on fuels a footing was,
he pronounced. altogether nugatory, and could tie-
ver afford any effectual fervice to the country.—
' When men volunteered their Cervices, they ought to
do it in a way which would be really efficient in a
moment of difficulty and danger. The Hon. Gene-
sal concluded his obfervations with deeming his con-
viAion that the Houle would feparate wide the fatis-
faetory knowledge that we not only had nothing to
fear from the enemy, but that on the other hand, if
our means of annoyance were properly direfted, he
had much to tear from our vengeance.
Mr. CHAPPLE gave his cordial affent to the mo-
tion. On the prelent occasion, however, he felt him.
fell called upon to put the Houfe in poffellion of a
raft which it appeared to him important for them
clearly to understand. It was, '-se believed, in the
recolleftion of thole who now heard him, that during
the debates on the Bill for the General Defence of
the country, a profpeet was held out that the fervices
of the Officers of the Eaft India Company might be
employed wish the greatell advantage at this difficult
crilis. He had now to Rate, that the whole of thofe
Officers had made an explicit offer of their fervices,
and their offer had not been honoured with even the
flightelt acknowledgement. This filence he could
not but think was ungenerous to shore who had come
forward in fo dilinterefted a manner. It could nor.,
he was Cure, be from any idea that there brave men
were unfit to be employed, that no notice had been
taken of the offer of their fervices. Surely thcfe men
who, at Seringapatam and in all the long contefts,
which had terminated in our final fitbjugation of the
Myforean Empire, could not be fuppofed to be defi-
cient in courage. To what was it then that the re-
jection of their offer was to be attributed? He pro-
felled himfelf altogether unable to acennnt for it.—
He had hated ;his fact, with the view of giving thole
who were belt able to account for it an opportunity
lot explaining what teemed to contravene a farther
declaration, made in the moll unequivocal terms.—
The Hon. Member reinforced the views of the laft
fpeaker ref:lathing the propriety of offenfive opera-
tions, and entered into a diliptifition refpefting the
application of our fubjefts in India. He contended
that they might be employed with the greatelt effect
in the Weft Indies, and even in Europe. As the Hon.
Member broke off this part of his fpeech abruptly,
we have not thought it neceffary to gra into any de-
tail of this part of his argument.
Lord CASTIAIitAGH replied to what had been Paid
on the fubjeA of the offers of the Captains in the Eaft
India fervice. He wilhed the Houfe to underftand,
that thefe offers had been received with all fuitable
refpeet. Their offers had been made through the
channel of the Court of DireCtors,and he could Rate
with confidence, that the Commander in Chief had
written an anfwer to them, couched in terms of the
greatefl refpel and the nrongelt approbation. Whe-
ther any of them had actually been appointed he
would not take upon himfelf to fay, but if they had
not hitherto been appointed, he did not think it diffi-
cult to account for the delay. He needed not to re-
mind the Houfe, that with retpeet to Field Officers,'
their appointment was not in the first inflance to be
expeEted. They could not take precedence of Ofli•
cars who had ferved direr ly under a commiffion from
the fovereign. With regard to Officers under the
rank to which he had now referred, there was one
circumßance to be taken into notice, which, to a
certain degree, interfered with their appointment.—
' This circumflance was, that many of them were in
; this country on furlough, sad were liable to he re-
called as form as the period to which the furlough ex-
tended had expired. It was not, therefore, a matter
I of futprile, if choice was made of thofe whore ap-
pointment might be expefted to be permanent, and
not liable to the fame uncertainty.
Mr. WIND/1•M, in a very long fpeech, in which
he went over his ufual ground, flared what he con-
ceived
to be objections to the motion, but what, in
reality, embraced the whnie conduit of Ministers.
He denied that he had ever on auy occallan fpokc
dilParagingly of the Volunteers of the country.
He had the highelt opinion cf their teal, their
patrintilm, their loyalty, and their public 11)44
In the day of trial he had no doubt that they would
do their duty ; but becaufe he entertaMed this opi-
nion, Ise could not allow that he was to be acctoi.d
becaufe he could not think them equal to a regirlar
army in a crisis of difficulty and danger. 111 he
had laid nothing on the fubjeft bids thole very Ho-
nourable Gentlemen who :moiled him with loch vio-
lence had not themfelves advanced. The Honoura-
ble Gentleman who introduced the difinflion, and
who of late teemed the forenoon in the ranks of hli-
nitters, had accufed him of injuflice on his attacks on
Minitlers. He had afferted that, whatever were the
actions of Ministers, they never were allowed credit
for their exertions. For hit part, what he charged
Ministers for was their total want of decision and
energy. They had no will or determination of their
own, bust were continually guided by reference to
the opinions of others. They did not calculate what
was right in itfeif, but what would be agreeable to
the country Gentlemen t what would pleafe their
military fupporters in the Fiunde ; how the Gentle-
men :it Lloyd's Coffee•houfe would be Eiji:poled to
rthrfh their &pinions. To this indeeilion of caarafter
were to he aferibetl all the weak and ruincus mca-
lures which had diilingoifired the whole of our con-
duel. To this were to be referred all the advantages
which the enemy gained, from the fi;yatatiire of the j
riChnIiLLIIICS Pease, down to the przfent moment.]

' There topics being difenfred in the Right Hon. Ct n-
tleinan's ulual impreffive manner, he cone to the tli•
teR confidetation of the motion.—He was not
poled to give it any thing like direct oppolition. Ile
could not, however, help thinking. that it was pre•
mature. Suppoling himfeif in the fittiation of a
Member of a Volunteer Affiociation, he Mould
cet-
tainly be dirpored to decline thefe honours, to which
he mull know lie had no pretenfions. It was time'
enough to think the Volunteers after they had per-
formed tome meritorious fervice. In coming forward
as Volunteers they bad hitherto only fought a tefuge
from compolfory fervice. It ought not to he • •rgot-.
ten that a vote of that Houle, expreffive of thank:,
was no light and idle ceremony. It was the higheft
honour which could be conferred by the Legiflion e.
of the Biitilh Empire. It was the hightft praile re-:
fervcd for the greateß heroes in the performance e 4 •
the moll fplendid Cervices. But on what occalion seas'
it now that a vote of thanks was to pars in favour of
the Volunteer Alfociations, formed at a crifis of un-
paralleled difficulty and danger, when it -.eae the fog
lemn duty of every man to come forward in dt'rlei,
of his country? If Inch a vote now naffed, what great-
er honours were to await them in the moment of the
moll fplendidviftory? This was the higheß of all boons.
and nothing awaited in floret° excite expeftation onto
animate to new exertions. If Bonaparte and his le-
gions had been difcomfited, he fliould have thought'
that a fair opportunity for bringing forward filch a
motion. He would then he ready to thank the Volun-
teers, for having Caved the country from the greareft
evil with which it was ever threatened. He would be
ready to concur in a vote to the Volunteers of Diffilin,
who had been fortunate enough by their exertions to
Cave that capital from deftruftion. Viewing the mat-
' ter in this light, the Right Hon. Gentleman thought
the motion premature. Purfuing his fpeech, he en.
treed into a very detailed fyftem of argument. He
protelled firongly againft any attempt to commitl
military dilcuilions. He expreffed no knowledge of
the Cubjeft, except what was derived from general
seafoning. He did, however, derive much informa-
tion from the fpeech of an Hon. Colonel near him
(Colonel Cratifurd), and he thought that Minißers
would do well to attend to many of his fuggellions.
But he begged leave diftinftly to declare, that ha
would neither give up his right nor his capacity to
form a judgment on military details, however much
they might be difcouraged by Minillers. It was per.
feftly well known, that Minifters themfelves mutt
form their opinions on thefe fubjetts from the °pi.
nions of military men. He begged for hirofelf a fimir
lar indulgence of opinion, and the refult of his deli.
Iteration on thefe opinions was, that Minifters had
not hitherto mpdified their plans of applying, the
meafures fanflioned by Parliament for the defence
of the country. He was afraid that the application
of their own plan would be erroneous and Wet:five.
In itluthation of this pofition, the Hon. Gentleman-
entered into a long argument, Rating, that it was a
miftaken notion to fuppofe that whatever was of no
aftual good might alto be of no harm, particularly
when the intention was good. He knew that if any
General Officer were to be afked what he thought of
many of their Corps? he would fay—. 6 Oh, give
me none of them, I want no fuch affillance, they
will Rand in the way." This was founded upon
the fame fort of reafoning as a man going to per-
form any (hong athletic exercife entertained, wheal
he was obfel ved to difencutnber himfelf ori

loch part of his clothes as he thought' molt
likely to Impede his power of action. In laying
this, however, he did not mean to objed to the fyßron
of Volunteering in general, but only to that fort of
inferior Ariflocracyin which Houfekeepersmight
only to alfociate with Ploulekeepers,orthe opulent om
ly with the opu'eut. He approve.: of a rOilest Volna.
teer body, who might be confidered as a fort of look
light infantry, expert at loading and Ready at firing,
who, without any furtherknowledge of military diki-
pline, might be found extremely ufcful to a regular be.
dy in annoying the enemy in every diredien to pinch
he might turn wi:hin their own dieltiel. He lamented
that the fuggefiion of a gallant officervear
Cranford) had not been adapted, as to the ufe foe.
tification ; then one great battle could not de-
cide any thing—the enemy would find himfelf cut
oil from his refourcess with his force exhauffing,
dwindlig:g away at every inch of ground that he
adVanced, and the regular force of the country would
find itself materially affilled in every diftriti by a for
of hall trained, half-done, parboiled military force, a
he might call it. But the prefent fort of volunteer.
ing, as it wastermed, created great confufioniand hi
caufed a great ferment throughout the country ;
he thought it was fomething like had July brewings,
and he was afraid it would not be fit to drinkle
fore Chrilimas ; thefe were only Volunteers in a for
of technical fenfe, a fort of compulfury volunteers:He
would a ith to fee no man compelled to join a regular
many other force, until anenemy thould alually land
and then that every (hand timid be employed in ha
rolling the enemy by every means bell fuited to hi
capacity cr his fituation. The Hon. Castleman had
recommended 'to the Houfc to dedicate one day
to unanimity ; this might feem very good doetr'-e
to hold forth in fupport of his motion, but he did
not recoiled tl.at in the courk of ten or twels.
years' experience, he had found the pradiee of the
•Honottrab:e Gentleman to coincide with. fuels a
feltillntilt. He had never found him particulat:f
delicate as to the time at which he might chnofe to
traterfe, or to inquire into the conduet of his ra.
jelly's Afinilers. Perfons who objeded to Ord
merely upon principles to which all taxation war
liable, might be fuppoled Mlle a fadious oprfition—
trot thofc who oppofed only what reailin oidated
them to be wiring, and who never objected to ar:
taxes which were found to be neceffary for It:
fupport of the Rate, could not Purely be included i
that defet iption. This he thoright vecefiary to fo.
in Ittil ice to his own understanding as wt.ll as to ;
charade/ ; and indeed he though. Come Honoorall
Gentleman would do him the joßice to fay, that I.
was not foci) an extreme bungler as to make Life
an oppotition to Minifiers which was liable to foc.
cenfure. Befote he fat down, there was runt-
part of the I lonourable Gentleman's( Mr.S's.)fpeet.
to which he would advert ; he had. herklet hi, exh
taboo to nnanimity to night, carved his ideas of
firidion out of doors; he had laid a fort of talk op'
every Gentleman belonging to that Honle, as
what lie was to do in the holidays; they wereto
ho)) whatever circumflanees might wife,
ever utioht be the condud of Minitters, not vaunt

or cenfure it in the aightell degree. This he thought'
was rather ton hard a talk. If Minillers a!led right,
whether as a Member of Parliament in that Houle or
as etanglifhman out of that Hule. he thought it
would be his right and his duty to fuppnrt them, and
when that was conlidered to be the cndoubted right
of every Member and of every Englifliman, it mull
Unequivocally follow, in his judgment. that he mud
feelbimfelf equally entitled to cenfure where they
made themfelvea liable to it. We mud have fome.
thing on which to red our hopes, and W we lean on
what will throw us down, we then might as well
lean upon a broken reed. is it becaufe they have
brought us into this Lite of peril that we are to
venerate them the more ? Is it becaufe they have
Leon the original caufe of all this danger that we
are to trod them the more ? If that were the cafe,
we amid wait until the enemy had landed on our
P. coatis, and we would then have the utmult occation
:.o rely upon their wifdom.
The StCRkTARY at WAR laid, that with refired to
a great part of what had been laid by the Right
Han. Gentleman (Mr. Windham) he confelfed he
did not underhand what that Right Hon. Gentleman
I meant. When the Right Hon. Gentleman talked
.of a refident armed population to be armed as look
'Light Infantry, which would be the belt palEhle of
Nfillanee to a Regular Force, and at the fame time ob
,iefted to meafirrea taken to procure that fpecies of
force, he was wholly, at a lots to underhand what the
1 Right Hon. Gentleman meant. But in objeding to
the fyftem purfued by Government as erroneous at
fo very early a period after the palling of the Mt
alluded to, how was it poffible for the Right Hon.
Gentleman to know precifely what was inrended to
be done by Government with refped to this force ?
It was at prefent only known, that in conformitY
with the provifinns of the law, every encouragement
bad been given to the formation of volunteer corps;
but how the Right Hon. Gentleman could imagine.
Ivat the prefent moment. fo Ikon a time after die pall
lag the MI, that the whole force intended to be
brought forward was to be confined to Volunteers,
he was at a lots to underhand. He did not accirfe
the Right Honourable Gentleman of calling reflec-
tions upon the Militia, or the Volunteers, and he mutt
admit that they were not equal in many relpeds to
the Regulars ; but he mud fay, once for all, much as
be refpeded the Right Honourable Gentleman, that
they had a tight to complain that that Right Ho.
pourable Gentleman fhould now give the whole
weight of his authority to criticifms upon the errors
of thole meafures, whild at the period when that
1
Right Hoe. Gentleman had a feat in the Cabinet he
did not avow thole opinions which he now brought
forward. At that period, during the lad War, the
• Volunteer Syftem was carried to as great an extent
as at prefent ;--the Militia the fame ;—and yet the
Right Hnn. Gentleman, with his opinions refped-
log the danger of the Country, which if not then fo
great as now, was nearly to, had not then thought it
his duty to date thofe fentiments by which he was
aduated : as to the erroneous nature of the Volun-
teer and Militia Syftems, he thought the Volunteer
fyftem a good one, and an admirable made of in
creating the public force, and that it had been upon
the prefent occalion very properly refortea to. The
Right Hon. Gentleman had, however, found out
that it was the intention of Government to confine
themfelves entirely to this Volunteer force. Where
did the Right Hon. Gentleman difcover this ? He
bad no helltrion in giying, that in different parts of
the country the defcription of Volunteer force requi
fate might be very different. In fome places large
bodies of Volunteers would be heft ; in others, it
would be better if they were formed into Independent
Companies ; in other places, perhaps, it would be
better if they were not formed into Companies at all.
Ilut as to laying down any general fy Item, it was im•
pollible ; it mull depend upon local circumaances,
and the danger to which particular parts might be
expofed. Having hated this, he hoped he had con-
vinced the Houk that no general principle upon this
fubjeft could be applied to Government at the prefent
moment. Minillers stied under a great refponfibility ;
let them be judged by the meafares they adopted,
and not according to pre conceived opinions. The
Right Hon. Gentleman had laid, that the meafure
made a great noire, but produced no force ; he was
furpriced to hear this from the Right Hon. Gentle-
man, who could not have given himfelf time to exa-
mine into cm, citmhances. The public force was filling
up from day to day, and in no very confich.rable time
the country mull be placed above all danger.
.11 the
metropolis was only looked to, they found that even
there the public fpirit of the people was filch that the
public force was receiving the molt confideroble aug•
=oration, day by day. With tepee to the country,
he had no means at prefent of exatly knowing the
number of Volunteers, but he might fay that from
too to rso,ooo had already been added to the pub-
lic force. He was perfuaded that a Volunteer
force contributed greatly to the fafety of the
Country, and no honed man would refufs to pay
a tribute to the gallantry and zeal with which
the Volunteers had come forward upon the pre-
fent tweafion. The Right Honourable Gentle.
man had Laid that to vote the Thanks would be
premature, but this was a crifis in which In much of
the public fafety depended upon the zeal of the coun-
try, that he was perluadeil this was one of the occa-
fions in which they ought to relax their general rule,.
The prefent motion was, too, not unprecedented ; a
fimilar motion was patted at the conclufion of the
lit War, and no man could fay that the energy of
the Volunteers at that period, great as it was, cx-
teeded the prefent.. It had been laid, that the Vo.
lumen of Dublin ought to be thanked for laving
the capital, which was endangered by the negligence
of the Qoternmeot : he denied, however, that the
capital was endangered by the negligence of the
Government, or that it was laved by the Volumetrs,
a garrifon of three or four thoufand men being in
thae.city. wish whom the Volunteers co-operated.
Mr. Closet.ss Dyson obferved, that the fpirit
which at prefent ratified in the Country ought to be
cherilbed. With rape° to what had been lard by
the Ri bt Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Winn lsaan) relative
to the Cavalry, be (Mr. Charles Dead's)
commanded one of she Regiments of that force in
the lea War, the difeipline of which received the ap-
robotics of (event' Generals; and he defied the
Right How. Gentleman to bring any General who
would fay that he did not with that Regiment to
come near him in a military point of view. At the
pram saawnose crazy sun was loctkm; about to

fee what he could do as a Coldier ; thi Country mild"
not bear the expanse of a Regular Army to that ez,
tent, and a Volunteer force would not cnly lave the
Country, but Cave its park in a more material degree.
Mr. WINOHAM explained. He did not mean to
make the leatt allusion to any particular Corps; he
only intended to Rate generally that the Volunteers
would not, at all events, be found as ferviceable as
the Houk teemed to imagine they would.
Mr. Wit.eatroace expatiated on the well known
patriotilm and bravery of Englilhmen at every period
of their bitlorl, and thence inferred that it would be
ufelefs to thank the country for doing no more than
what it had always done on every =Allan where the
exigency of their affairs required it. He would not
with to have it known that they were thanked by the
Legillature for what they had already done, as that
might be conilrued to imply time previous doubt, or
to convey an idea that they had exceeded our expec-
tations. Engidlimen wanted no fuels flimulus to in-
cite them towards the defence of their native foil.—
He then gave a defcription of the liberality, as well
is the patriotifm, of that part of the country which
he laid he had the honour to reprefent, and acquain-
ted the Houk that a fubfcription had been entered
into there, upon nearly a (uvular plan to that in the
City of Loudon, and that feveral thoufands had been
already puz down. He then adverted to the differ-
ence between a regular and a volunteer force, and
faid hs thought that a man might be trained to
wised, to fire, Sec. and yet not be able to ufnatch a
grace beyond the rules of art." This drew to his
mks' the intrepid cantina, the colleded thought, and
the moll ardulus enterprifing fpirit of our gallant
e orntryman, Sir Sidney Smith, on whom he paired
Ore highell encomiums, declaring that by land or at
fea his exploits were equally marrifell and equal y
fplendid; that he was like that juitly celebrated hero
Englifh Hillory, the Duke of Marlborough, who
made the moll dilcoriant principles of nature unite
in fupport of the taint which he efpoufed. There
was finnething. however, in the vet y nature of the
prefent volunteering fyllem, however ardent, brave,
or zealous its members might be, which he thought
made them liable to objeaion. Many from their
age, their (late of health, or their conneetions in'
life, would be fount rya fit to endure the hard-
flips which many others in the lame Corps, were
ready and able to hear. lie
would avoid trea.i
ing on military geound as much as po(flble, but
confelfed he hoped that it would be the meant Of
eliciting the oblervations of Gentlemen far better
qualified, and whole ideas might, according to hi,
opinion, be ferviceable to the HJufe (ladix: toward:
Col. Craufard). All that he meant to draw the at-
tention of the Hoofs to, was Lova, ds the clailitica
tion of the different Volunteer COI FS. If that was
not attended to, he thought that we might be able
to alcertain the numbers by looking at the li is, but
we would never he able to afcertain the true effective
force. What had been mentioned by an H, nourable
Member (Mr. Chapple) refpeding the Fail Intl.a
force being fent to the Weft Indies. he was lorry to
have heard in that Houle, and hoped that it would
never he adopted by his Majeay's Government. Oa
this point he dwelt for Come time, and declared that
he conlidered that part of the world as a devouring
gulf, which fo-allowed up all our forte ; and that it
was a greater expense and lefs real advantage to us
by many degrees, than what the French had gained
on the Continent lait war alone. He then paid Come
handlome compliments to the Lawyers' Corps, and
laid that he thought we Ilsould not troll to much to
perfons who had no flake in the country, as to thofe
on whom, from their wealth and refpeaability, we
could rely in the boor of danger. But there was
another point to which he expreffed a hope and con
fidence that Miniflers would attend, that was, to the
providing thofe of our countrymen who volunteered
their Cervices with proper arms, and training them
accordingly ; for inflance, he had heard a good deal
of the difficulty of procuring firelocks for this im-
menfe force, and he had enquired as to the nature of
the obariele. He found that barrels could be fuppli
ed in abundance, but that the difficulty was in get.
sing the locks made fall enough. That had fug-
geited to him the idea that a number of men
Ihould be dirciplined in another way ; our artillery
might be brought into more active fervice. Several
extraordinary exertions he thought might be made.
, in the manner of a Gentleman in. that part of the
country where he came horn, who, being &Aced as to
what he meant to fulaferibe, defired them to refrain
from preffing the otreflion r he could name no parti-
cular annum, bur he would veil his whole cline and
all his affets in the hands of any refpetlable Com-
miffioners, to be ufed as they might think proper be-
tween him and his country; and, when the danger
was otter, he had no doubt that inch honourable men
would return him the furplus. This was becoming
the ancient character of Ehgliflimen, and would be
found fuffieient to free the nation from the imputation
of a flop kalinz fpi:it, which had been throufn on them
.by the French. He concluded with exprelhing his
moll hearty approbation of that part of Mr. Sireri-
dan's fpfech which declares a reliance on the con-
do& of Miniflers, that no peace fhould ever be made
while there remained a Angle Frenchman in a hoflile
fituation on the Englith lhore.
Mr. A RC HDA LL combated the arguments of Mr
Virndham in few words as to his mod flriking points.
He thought that it would have been much better if
the Right Hon. Gentleman was a little more witty,
or elle that he did not attempt to be witty at all;
for by the fudden ebullition of his fancy he was free
coently wrong, and might be always fairly fappofed
to fall Ihort of what he himfelf had intended. He
thought that it was a confederation of no intrinfic
worth, whether a forte was to he denominated maf-
culioe, femininfir or neuter ? The idea of fatisfying the
Lieutenants of the Militia, and the other Officers, the
Country Gentlemen in general, the Stockholders, and
the Monied intereft, might be buriefqued, but he
wilted that every Gentleman when in Office would
endeavour to reconcile the minds of all defcriptions
of people in the fame manner as be had deferibed.
With all the novelty of invafion and rebellion, with
all the novelty of the particular circumstances of the
-times, he hoped that the SelLoo would not be fair•
ed to clofe without every man being reconciled and
united in she general idea of doing what they could
for the benefit of the country. He hoped that no
Gentleman io that Houk, or in.the country. would
ever experience or fee troubles In any degree fimilar
to thole which he had ften indfilt.—/ror Mat reafnn,
as well as his general reliance on the conduct of the

prefent Mini(lere, and for the realong fn piswerfttlly '
owed by the Honourable Mover, he Ihouldfeel him-
fell bound to fopport the motion.
Faagcts fait!, that in parliamentarylanguage.
:clic.: a thing was rilhr, it Iwcarne the duty of every
I.lenther ro fpeak his ntind as to whatever public was
then palling. On thia gronnd, he thought that the
Hon. Mover mull have &Icor:red two objects fence
he had lalt heard him foeak. Ile Lad then 6:
lhppnrted the propriety of a Military Council ; he
had alio molt iirenttoully fappnrted the ofrers which
were laid to be made by an Mull:loth perfonage.
T11:11: were objet: which he thought the Hon. Mem-
ber could not reaJiiy forget ; lie mud therefore con•
elude, particularly with refired to the latter, that he
mull hive been well informed before he would give
inch unqualified fupport to m:n whom he had fo lately
oppofed on topics in intimately conneded with that
at prefent before the Houfe. The latter objua of his
Ipeech had reference to an attachment from which
nothing in the world could induce the lion. Gentle.
man to fwerve. But there objects did not appear to
him as clear as they did to the Hon. Gentleman.—
His information perhaps did not come from fo gond
a fouree; but when the fad appeared clear to him,
when he had obtained that information,•the motion
of the Hon. Gentleman Ihould have his molt cordial
fupport. .
Colonel ClAUroan Lid, we are now about to be.
flow a panegyric on thole perfons who are formed
into Volunteer Corps, but whore military prowefs is
yet unknown to ,the Houfe; he, therefore, thought
the motion preceded the lab. ur and valour that
ought to gain it: lie would alit every Member in that
tinufe, whether there was that merit attached to the
Volunteer retake of the country which fome Gentle-
melt's defer iptive powers have given to it; dude per-
foils, now the voluntary defenders of the country,
had wives, children, and connections dear to them,
as well as their property, all of which brought them
to a knit of their duty to thenifelves as well as the
Government; for they well knew, if the Government
is at the mercy of Frenchmen, thefe ohjeds, now fo
dear to them, will become die rniferable inllruments
of a lawlefs banditti, who could feel no pleafure,
that did not arife in every as that would (hock the
feelings of the virtuous, and difgrace the name of
civilized fociety. Where then is there an oceafion
for praife ? Men now felt as they ought to do for
themfelves ; let them neglect the Government, and
their h winds is gone; let them relax in the necef-
Lary fervice they are called 'upon to perform, and
their dwellings will become the flaughter.houfes of
Frenchmen—all ha ppinefs is ;one, when the -Englifh
loft fight of their former (pin: and greatnefs. This
is a trying moment, therefore do nut treat men as
children, and praife them before they deferve it: if
Frenchmen have the folly to venture nn our (bores,
Engli:litnen mud gain the laurel by the fword, not
by any anterior parade—this was has candid opinion:
refped to the praife to be bellowed he Ihould
now fay what he thought of them when called into
the field, to repel a mercilefs foe : and here he mull
give them the genuine tribute of an unbiaffed mind,
that whenever the day comes, that the two nations
difi.•ute the right of country on our own fhores,
Engl:lhmen still convince the enemy of their mad-
nets in the attempt to invade us, and add a military
fame to a name that has for centuries been the
dread of a foreign foe. After thefe remarks on the
impropriety of the prefent motion, he would call the
attention of the Houle to chore brave men under
General Grinfield, who recently difiinguifhed them-
(elves, and who ought to receive the Thanks of the
Houfe as they had fought for the laurel, and there.
fore were entitled to it—yet no mention had been
nude of thefe men's Cervices. If the motion had
gone to the praife of merit we had witneffed, then
he Ihould be the MI to give his vote to fupport the
Motion. The Thanks about to be given by the
Houfe would have a bad effect with thnfe perfons,
who have often obferved this fpecies of compliment,
hut have not received it. It would alto have an un.
favourable efFeaupon the military of Ireland, to whom
the motion was partly dirt-tied, as the Houfe had
not thought proper to exprefs their Thanks before.
It would not, in his mind, be Cu well to involve
their approbation in the Thanks of the Houfe to
thole volunteer Corps who are not yet intitled
to Panegyric, not having had an opportunity of
'hewing their courage. Notwithilanding many ob-
fervations had been made by feveral Honourable
Gentlemen in the Houle on his Military Rennks,
and his having been repeatedly called a Military
Leaurer, it would by no means deter him from re-
peating thole things which arofe flout long experi-
ence on the Continent. He Mould, therefore, make
an obfervation on German teaks, and alto acknow•
ledge, that he once admired the German Army ; but
he mull confefs, he at prefent admired the &kith
Army. The Hon. Gentleman exprefed his high
opinion of the military talents of the King of Prof-
ile; and after a few remarks on the regulation of his
forces, °Verged, that he was for having an increafe
of the regular Army in this Country, he had an op-
portunity of knowing the fincerity of the Regulars,
at a period, when they were tried in every way,
by the art and wickednefs of many difaffeeted per-
lons, who wrote circular letters to them in every
corner of the Country, to poifon their affeaion, and
dellroy their duty to the King. But he believed
that every letter received by thefe brave fellows
was immediately given to their Officers, with a pro-
m& of faithful duty to them and the Country. He
had to obferve that a Morning Print had hated, that
Government were not provided with fufficient arms
for the volunteering fervice of the Country: had he
made fuch a remark, it would have been objeaed to ;
but if this Itatement was true, he thought it necef-
fary that every Gun-maker from one end the king-
dom to the other fliould be immediately ordered to
fupply Government with the .rims wanted. He was
lorry at fuch a moment as the prefent, that
an sllufirious perfonage (the Prince of Wales) was
not employed, as a General of the Volunteer Corps :
he being an objea of univerfal elleem and admire,
don, the people would feel an enthufiafm to fere,
under his Command, and this would ahO relieve the
Duke of York from much bufinefs, as it is impoffible
for that Noble Duke to give his attention to the vo-
luntary fervice, from having the care of the regulars
under him. With refpea to the Officers belonging
to the Bei India Service, who be underiliw,d had
volunteered their Cervices to Government, he thought
they might be rendered very ufeful in the Volunteer
Corps, till Government maid =ploy them in no

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.ther way. ft had been otofereed by an norktorahle
Gentleman of that Houfe, that thole Gentlemen who
were acquainted with a warm climate, might be
fent to the Welt Indies, where there krvices would
be highly valuthle, and prevent the fending of
Regiments unacquainted with a warm climate, who
would loon peril with difeafe : but this would
break the fpitit of thole Officers, and prove very
hurtful to the Eati India Service. He muff
again repeat, he did not • approve of the prefent
Volunteer Corps : in his mind, G .vernment Ihould
have laid to the fira clefs, 4, you young men of
the firlt dials, we want your fervices—you molt
therefore go, and we will provide for your families—.
but we mull have you." Notwithtlanding he had
been called a Military Leaurer, yet he would ob.
ferve, that we never were in great danger of being
invaded while the French were engaged in a Conti-
nental war.—From the peace of Campo Formic whit
the Aufiriane, the latter did not lofe a moment, but
let about filling lip their army, as the Archduke can.
tidered the peace infecure. The French knowing the
Auftrians were prepared with a Rrong military Force,
thought it prudent not to make an attack on them.
It was thefe Continental agitations between different
powers that prevented the invafion of this country.
The Hon. Gentleman paid feveral compliments to
different Members as to the temperate manner of
difcuffing the important queßions which often cams
before the Houfe, and he was fatisfied that whatever
difference of opinion exified in the Houfe, on political
points, no one would carry to his place of retirement
for the Summer, the lea animofity towards his po-
litical opponents. . . _

Lorsitarri.resaca, in explanation, Elated, thitt
with refpelt to the Officers belonging to the E.rll In.
dia Company now in this country, the tender of their
voluntary fervices had been received with that refpeit
and attention which afire due to them; bon he could
not go fo far as to fay, whether it was in the content.
platoon of his Royal Highnefs the Commander in
Chief to accept of there very meritorious offers.
Col. Outman and Mr. Cit•rvna explained.
Lord HAMIUSIORT, though he felt it to be Of
very little praftical importance to afcertain the point
whether the dangers of the country were greater at
any former period than the prefent, he yet thought it
right, in confequence of the flatement of the Hon.
Colonel who had jug fat down, to make a few ob.
fervations on this fulekFt. He contended that the
danger was as great, and in many rerpedts much
greater, in 1798, than at this day; that the Ft er.ch
lorce are at much dillributed in ditfetent parts of the
Continent in the occupation of polls In Italy, Ger.
many, Holland, and their oom frontiers, as they were
at the period alluded to by the Hon. Gentleman ;
and the Honourable Gentleman's alTntion, that
France had now no fear of a continental diverfion
in our favour, was not to be fo confidently tec
kined upon ; for it was quite abfurd to fuppofe that
France could be engaged in war with fuch a country
as England, without looking to the poffibility, nay
the probability, of a war with fome Continental
Power. The meafure alluded to, however, flood on
grounds which required no comparifons of this fort
for its defence. Its own merits were fufficient to Inf.
tain it. It would be no argnment againfl ir, 'hat at
any former period of equal danger Minitlers neglea.
ed to adopt an equally vigorous and efficient men.
lure. With refpeA to the motion before the Houle,
he regretted that at fuch an extraordinary trills as the
prefent, Gentlemen ffisuld Stickle about forms and
precedents, when it was propoled to thank the gallant
men who promptly Rood forth to repel the enemies
of their country. The Noble Lord applauded the
wife policy of the motion. At future times Englith.
men would read this record on the Journals with
pride, that in the year lEl°3 their ancellors came foe.
ward with a patriotic refolution to preferve their
country from foreign dominion, or die.
Mr. W. SMITH thought this motion premature, 11
kind of payment made in advance to men, which he
hoped they would by future exertions deferve : but, If
the contrary Ihould be the cafe, which, however, he
did not apprehend, this entry on the journals would
have an aukward appearance indeed. As to the tea
nor of the Leroy es Mold Bill, he regretted that from
the manner in which the VrJunteers were railed, he
could not approve of it : many of the older claffes
Came forward from honeft loyalty and zeal, and
were, in razt, made the jell at chill, of idle worthlefs
young fellows, who ought themielves m be okligell
to ferve.

Mr. SHIRIDAM Mte to reply, and (poke in nearly
the following terms:—By the coulter), of this Honk,
any Member who brings fot ward a motion billowed
the right of replying to any arguments which may
be offered againfl it ; but of this right I fhould not
on this occalion avail myfelf, if it were not for Ike
very dine perfonal allufions which have been made
to me in the course of the debate. I cook's that I
feel great furprife that the appeal I have thought it
my duty to make to the Houfe, for a vote of thanks
to thofe gallant men who have flood forward fo gal.
)tinily in defence of all that is dear to us, Mould have
provoked a diffentient voice, or produces( a difeuf-
fion of luch length—now not leis than live or fix
hours. This hefitation was not lets furprifing than
impolitic; but the conduß of the Right Hon. Gentle-
man (Mr. Windham) did not by any means furprife
I me. That the man who required 24 hours to con.
fider of the propriety of putting .'.own rebellion in Ire.
land, thou' f wale 5 or 6 hours in inveftigating the po.
licy of declaring our gratitude and admiration of the
loyalty and exertions of thole who Rood forward to
pimea their country in the time of peril, was per.
fatly confident; that he fhould have been feconded,
however, by the gallant Officer behind him. was ra-
ther matter of ationiffintent. But before I proceed
to remark on the obfervations of both thrift Gentle-
men, I mull take notice of the appeal which has bres
made to me by an Hon. Friend of mine, namely,
whether, before I connoted to give my fitment to
Minillers, I had obtained toistation from them upon
two points, and made thofe the cornlitions of my sup.
port ; fire. as' n the appointment of a Council of
War, which I (awaited the other, night, upon the
motion of another Hon. Friend of mine. With re.
fpeet to this meaftire. I confers that, though on Ilse
oecafitin 1 have alldded to, I firesogly advifed its Adm.
Linn. I have finee then. in cenfequeace lif iniorma.
tion I received from the very higheß authority. had
my opinion very atomicity fitaken. if not altlretbee
removed; for from this authority I have heard fa .h
argun.ents as completely fatiafieii my naiad that the
eitablithateat of this GonsmiCiott would be OK may

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attended with difadcantage,but feriettifyiniuriottit
tOerefore am ready very fully and frankly to declare.
tloo the featiments I held upon this fubjelt were er-
roneous. The other poi= to , which my Honour-
able Friend toferred, but not quite in the friendly
tone in wi ich he has been in the habit of addretEng
hinifelf to me. was with refpeft to the offer of Service
from his Royal Highnefs the Prince of Wales. That,
however, is a fabjee of delicacy into the difeuffion
of which I (hall not enter. I believe there is no man
who knows me will doubt for an intlant the Tepee,
attachment and veneration I entertain for the virtues
and public fpirit of that illtiflrious perfonage ; but I
am not to be tutored or fchooled by any man as to
the Way in which I fhould manifett my feelings and
d.fchArgc my duty towards his Royal Highnefs. 1
am not be told that unlefs the offer, which has done
him the higliett honour, Should be treated in a man-
ner fati,fattory to my Honourable Friend and me,
1 (hall decline to fitpport his Majeity's Government
on this trying occafiln. Of my refpe and regard
for Ibis Royal Highnefs as a Prince, and as a man,
I liquid think my Honourable Friend himfelf is fully
aware. It is not neeeffary for me to make any pa-
rade or profeflian of my zealous wan for his inte-
red and charafter. It is jullly due to that charaiter,
to date thot which mutt conditute its higheß prone,
that he has offered, in the nobleß manner, to Rand for-
ward for the nation's defence : and I am fatly perfuad-
ed that that offer was not lets gracioufly received by
the perfons to whom it was made, than it is felt with
gratitude by the country at large. lam however con-
fident, that whatever might have been the effeeof that
offer, His Royal Highnels would not be friendly to any
obfervations calculated to excite public difcontent, or
to dillurb public unanimity; on the contraty. I am
fully perfuaded, that according to the ((minim of his
dignified friend, Lord Moira, His Royal Highnefs
would rather enter as a private in the ranks of his
armed countrymen, than countenance any difcuffion
which could tend to divide the feelings of the people.
With refpee to the remarks of the honourable Officer,
upon the manner in which military leftures are re-
ceived in this Houfe. I mull fet the Honourable Gen-
tleman right, if he alluded to me. I beg him to un-
deriland that I never did fay that this Houfe was not
a proper place for military men to Rate their opinions ;
but I did fay this, that as a Member of Parliament I
would not abandon my opinion in compliment to the
affertions of military authority, for which, generally
(peaking. I profefs not to entertain a very profound
swiped. at hall fo far as it is difplayed in this Houle;
and indeed it would be rather furprifing if from the
manner purfued flub authority Should be much re-
(peeled. I can collet% no information from it. One
Officer riles and lays down a certain plan. another
propofes one of quite a different nature, but neither
follows up his ideas. There is a kind of confufion
and irregularity in their movements. They do not
march dole upon each other with the krill* but
they run about and Scramble in facts a way as to be
fearcely intelligible, and when intelligible. of very
little ufe, and not at all tending to elucidate the
fubje& or to enlighten the Houfe. The Honour-
able Officer to whom I refer tells, to be fore, tome
military anecdotes, with which any man that bas
read fame very well known books, cannot be un-
acquainted ; and another Honourable Officer at
times entettains us in the fame way. But of what
value to the Houle is the repetition of thole mat-
ters of fate ? If there gallant Officers can tell us
nothing more than what can be teen in Plutarch'.
Live., Cafar's Commentaries, or Vauban, or how
Such a divifion moved at Idalplaquet or Blenheim.
they can render very little Service to the Country.
Indeed for the credit of there Officers thernfelveo
I deprecate Such difcuffions, and would advice them
to abliain from fuch Ratements. But, as to the
motion before the Houfe, the Honourable Colonel
arks, why thank the Volunteers for merely doing
their duty ? His new acquaintance and Right Ho.
nourable Friend below him -ought, however. to
be the IA to oppofe a motion of thanks to them
for doing their duty ;—he who has been fo long
and fo loudly lamenting the bafe Spirit which, ac.
cording to his defcription, exifted in the Country,
in confequence of the Treaty of Amiens and the
charafter of the prefent Miniflers. If the Right
Honourable Gentleman did really with to remove
that lownefs of mind which he fit often deplor-
ed, his language this night was grange indeed ;
but if be regretted to find his opinion rnittaken. it
is of courfe quite confluent to refill the expreffion
of our gratitude to the band of patriots who have
broken through that (lumber of apathy, and (hook off
that (hide of defpondency which he has fo frequent.
Iy pieurod to the Hottfe, but which in reality never
;reified. The Hon. Colonel has defcribed the motives
which ought to aftuate the people of this country to
take up arms at prefent, and he contends that their
having obeyed there motives, namely, the defence of
their own families and the call of public duty, does
not entitle them to the gratitude of Parliament. I
regret that the Hon. Colonel has in the courfe of his
obicrvations entered into any contrail between the
voluotters and any other defcription of the public
force. Such comparifons are invidious at any time,
and particularly imprudent at prefent : I can fee no
good purpnfe that it can anfwer. Although the wif-
dom of the Hun. Colonel's Right Honoutoble Friend
(Mr. W.) has given the faneion of his authority to
the practice, I did Patter myfelf that in the ohfery
tions with which I prefaced this motion I had ab-
Rained from every topic that was 1 kely to provoke
debate or diirention, And that was my u Oh. I de.
cline.' to lay one word as to the condo& of :WOO
tiers, becaufe I knew from the experience of a for.
rner evening that any tl•ing from me in commenda•
tion of would be a pretext to the Right
Hon. Gantleman to fall foul or them. Recurring to
the companion of the Honourable Colonel between
the volonteers and the regulars, I cannot help lay-
ing that he has not taken a coolie very likely to re.
flea honour on his ftvotaiite force. The Honourable
Colonel has admitted that the Volunteers have done
th-ir duty, but that they are not on that account enti-
tled to the pimpled vote. while the diflinguifbed fer-
vices of the regular army are overlooked. In proof of
their rerekto, however. the Hon. Col Rates this, that
at the time of the mutiny in the fleet, the Jacobin, fent
circular letters to the fereral regimens. f the array,
inviting them to mutiny. which invitations they re
!tiled to comply v ith Then the Hon. GentlematiOar 4
gument Stand Otto that we trunald refute our thank.
to the cot,rteers, wh..te merit is that they hived. fly
theil dozy, Out teat we IhoulJ gr..nt this know to 1

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the regular My, whole Merit is, neording to his
ftatement. that they rejeded a propofition to mutiny;
that they declined to violate their oaths—to abandon
every fenfe of duty and honour. Such is the fubflance
of die panegyric which this regular Colonel has pro-
nounced upon the regular army. If he can fay no-
thing snore in their favour, I think the army would
he much obliged to Mtn to withhold his praife. The
Honourable Colonel has. in his compliments to his
Right Honourable Friendfthought proper to fay that
it would be for my intereff tkpreferve my hands as
clean from the imputation of unworthy motives in ray
oppofition to Minifters as his Right Hon. Friend has
done and continues to do. If the Honourable Colo-
nel had been acquainted with the views and proceed-
ins of the Old Oppralon, be would have declined
that remark ; but I will refer him for information op.
on this point to his Right Hon. Friend, and I would
, call with confidence upon that Right Hon. Gentle-
, man my fell to Rate the courfe which the old Oppofi-
I tion took when lie adled with them. Were not the
, grounds upon which they relied their condu& mate-
rially different from thole upon which he and his col-
• leaguesnowadt When they condemned Minilters they
pointed at particular ads which 'unified that coil-
, demnation. They never pronounced loofeand general
, ceafures. They never told the cswntry that the Mini-
• tiers they oppofed were not entitled to confidencewith-
. out proving it; bat the Right Hon. Gentleman never •
does meet the Mini flersfairty,never oppofes them front
to front; his mode of difcipline teems belt to qualify
• him for fquibs and Atirinifhes ; his favourite plan of at-
t tack is on the flanks and rear of his adverfary. Is this
r the fyftens of tallies which the Hon. Colonel would
approve ? I would call upon the Right Hon. Gentle-
man to make his approaches more manfully. If 'he
would confult the precedent of the Old Oppofition.he
would alter his prefent courfe for one betteradapted to
recommend himfelf to the favour of the Country and
the deference of Parliament. I am glad, however, to
perceive from the reference he has made to the old
, Oppofition. that he is refrefhing his memory; thathe is
• furbifhing his arms, no doubt from an expectation, in
• which I hope he will not be difappointed, that he will
• have to Rand a very long campaign in Oppofition. If
in thiscampaign he will endeavour to imitate the party '
I have alluded to, he will proted himftlf and his friends
from the charge of fadion ; he will not oppofe mea-
: lures hecaufe they come from a certain let of men ;
and although the fame meafures from other men
I would meet his moll:cordial concerrence, he will not
all upon filch motives; and if not. his opinion and
oppofition will become reipedable, and may have
fume pretenfion to a companion with the old oppofi.
t•on, from which the Right Hon. Gentleman may
• perhaps think that I have now a furlough ; but as to
the comparifon of the two oppofitions under the pre-
fent circumßances, it firikes the that the old oppofi-
lion might addrefs that of the Right Hon. Gentleman
in the lame terms as thole ufed by the landlord who
kept the fign of the Two Magpies at Hounflow, in
his difpute with another landlord who thought pro
per to put up the fame fign—., We are the real o.d
magpies, and you have let up your new oppofition
through fpite :" [Agerieranesarh.] The Honourable
Colonel, in his affedion and deference for the Prince
of Wales, recommended that his Royal High-
nefs fhould be appointed to the command of the Levy
ell M#, as a place fuited to his rank and confequence.
1 would beg the Houfe to recoiled that this is the
army which the Hon. Officer advifed Miniflers to
dillrihute into fcouting parties, or to Ray in their re-
fpedive diftrids, to keep up a kind of irregular attack
upon the enemy—to fire from behind hedges or walls
—from out Jf houfes, &c. Now mark the Ration the
Hon. Colonel would allign the illußrious Perfonage
I have mentioned—be would fend his Royal High
nefs to take his place behind a tree, to watch
and diredt flying !Looters, to conduift a mode of
warfare that would referable fomething like boar
hunting. This is a part which I hope will never be
Aligned to the Prince of Wales ; that we (ball not
call on him to Rand behind a tree, or throw himielf
into a ditch when the enemy approaches. An Hoo.
Friend of mine has Rated in the courfe of his oh-
jedions to the motion before the Houfe. that while the
Volunteers were drialing, they were laughed at by idle
worthlefs fpeßators. This appears to me to be a very
Rrong reafon in favour of this motion, for if the Vo-
lunteers are laughed at by the profligate,letthem have
this honourable mark of your approbation to gratify
their pride. to raife them above Inch (neer:. The late
Secretary at War has maintained in the courfe of this
debate, and on other occafions, that our fit nation was
by nomeansfo dangerous at any period of the late war,
as it is at prefent. To this affertion the Noble Secretary
of State has fo ably anfwered,that I think it unneceffary
to fay much, but I infift that the perils of the country in
the year 1798 were much fuperior to thole by which we
are now menaced; for at that time Ireland was situ-
ally invaded, a formidable infurredion prevailed, and
had the whole of the French force which was fent to
Ireland been able to effed a landing, or rather perhaps
acre it not for the treachery of Hoche, that country
would have been fubdued. Then I contend that
Ireland was raved by an accident ; and if the 40.000
men uhieli were permitted to go to Egypt had bent
their courfe for Ireland, what, I would alts, could
have been the fate of that country d In filch a Rate of
things, I maintain that Mini fters are jußified in chug-
ing the Right Hon. Gentleman with negledting to
refrrt to filch meafures of vigour as he ought to have
employed, and loch as have been on the -prefent cc-
cafion adopted. The Right Hon. Gentleman will not
deny that he felt the extremity of panic at the Rate of
the nation in 1798, iaromuch that he was heard to
complain of the apathy of his colleagues; that they
were not forw a; d to adopt meafures sufficiently coked
to the crisis. They were, to be lure. perfuaded to
propole a Bill, which was palled. in the preamble of
which the alarming Rate of the country was acknow.
hedged, and feverai toilitary preparatiuns prefcribed.
which however were never executed, nor was the Aft
in any of its provifions aged upon; but yet it was
remarkable, that though clumfy and ineffeaual, it
contained the fame principle, and nearly the fame
chides, which the Right Hop. Gentleman has ob-
jracd to in the A& for railing the mars of the people.
Why did the Right Hon. Uentlanan approve of a
propofition then which he shares wow There are
indeed many other meaftares of the late Miniftry
which the Right Hon. Gentleman profefes to cow-
demn. He has laid, among others, that the preset- '
(tonal cavalry was a foot& meafure—.lma them can
he account for the. fupport he gave it :A a Minifter t
I do appeal to Lon, any matt who has a 444 a

of franknets, whether fuel a Mein& is mutable,
that a Right Hon. Gentleman, who lays claim to
candour, fincerity, opennefs and independence of
mind, who continued in this Houle to plead for pro.
ceedings, of which, as a Cabinet Minifter, he ftrnngly
difapproved, was certainly not quite confiftent. The
Hon. Colonel lays, that A uftria was not fincerely de-
firous to preferve the peace of Campo Formio. I
remember when we Rated the fame thing in this
Houle, we were oppoled by the late Secretary at War
and his friends, and the fait was pofitively denied.
The Ex-Secretary at War confidered the affertion
mere nonfenfe—indeed, that Right Hon. Gentleman,
whether in or out of office,has been always in the habit
of treating the affertions or arguments of his adverfa-
ries, with an appearance of indifference, if not con-
tempt, that was not becoming in any man. No doubt
if great talents would Ally a man in looking down
upon the arguments of his adverfary, the Hon. Gen-
tleman was fully qualified to do fo—but no degree or
defcription pf talents could excufetfuch conduit. The
argument of every man is, if at all attended to, en-
titled to refpeEtful attention. With regard to the con-
duit of the Right Hon. Gentleman fume he became
an Ex-Minifter, I do contend, that its uniform tenor
has been to invite and encourage the enemy, and to
deprefs and difcourage our own people. He has in-
vited the enemy to provoke the war, by the defcrip-
tion he always gave of the charaiier of Miniflers—
and fince the war, he has invited au attack upon our
country, by the flatements he has made of the luna-
tion of the public mind, the diforganized flue of our
army, and the aukward manner in which our de-
fenfive force was to be conftruited. By this kind
of invitation he has brought Bonaparte into a
(crape, and he certainly is in a much worfe (crape
than this country; all his misfortunes may be at-
tributed to the reliance he placed on the words of
the Right Honourable Gentleman, when he re,
ported the Minifters to be a let of flabby, pad.
lanimous, incapable fellows, who knew nothing,
who would bear any thing, who would fubmi: to
any injury, or endure any fault. In fhort, that the
peace of Amiens was a curfe, and that bad as the
Minifters were, this Treaty had rendered the people
Rill worfe. He always Rated that Mini flers were on-
ly anxious for the fare tenure of their places, and that
as there was nothing high minded about them, they
would make any facrifice to that objeft. What
was the natural tendency of loch language ? What
impreffion was it likely to make on the mind of Bo-
naparte ? If he was told it was all rant, the mere
heated declamation of a difcontented Ex-Minifter,
he would, no doubt, anfwer No—lmpoßible ! Mr.
Windham is a difcreet Ratefman, and he knows the
charatter of the Englifh Government, and of the Eng.
glilb people well; no man better. But Bonaparte was
deceived, and was fairing much regret for his con-
fidence in the Right Hon. Gentleman. He knows
now that Minillers are not quite fo paffive or fo timid
as the Right Hon. Gentleman would lead him to
imagine ; that they would go to war fooner than fa-
crifice the honour and interefts of the country. There
is a charaßer in our great Bard, Sir Andrew Agth-
cheek, to whom, though I cannot entirely compare
the Firft Conful, I have no doubt that if he were to
declare his fentiment on his prefent -fitudion, be
would fay, in the language of the old Knight,

" If I thought he'd been In valiant, I'd be dunned ere I bed
challenged him."
I am pretty certain that Inch is now the feeling of
Bonaparte, and he has t' thank the Right Hon.
Gentleman for reducing lila to that dilemma. I hope
that Minifters will place him in a ffill work dilemma, if
duly feconded by the people, upon which I confidently
rely. I have no doubt that it is in their power to do fo.
In reply to the oisfervations that have been made on
the motion under confideration, on the ground that
it is not neceffary, I (hall only fay that it mull be ufe-
ful ; that it is dilated by juftice and policy, and call.
ed for by the irrefiftible voice of gratitude ; that the
merit it is intended to diftinguifts is great and mate-
rial to the public fafety ; and that to record fuch me
rit would suite the emulation of the People at large,
if a ftimulns was neceifary, while it would form a
monument honourable to our own charafter, grate.
fill to the pride, and conducive, by the influence of
example, to the belt interefts of pofterity. The Ho.
nourible G:ntleman concluded by fubmitting his

motions

• That the nooks of this Node he given to the Irma! Vo-
lunteer Corps of the linked Kingdoms, for the promptitude and
seal with which, at a alas the Ma 01211411a1t001 to their country,
they have Waisted for its ddence."
In order that the patriotic example of fuck voluntary exertions
may be committed to poltcrity;
Refilled, • That a return he made to this Hoare of all Volun-
teer Corps, properly diftingoliblog thole whole &reins lbsk have
been accepted by his Majetty previous to the next meeting of Par-
liament, Is order that the lame may he mutated ss the Journal of
this Hack.••

• That the Speaker of tbk Hook be diredod to oassolookate
tkek Rakelotions to all the Lords Lieutenants ,of COSaiitS. and to
the Lore Lkatteoants of !rebind."

The above three Refslotions 'ere i a mnimouily.
lonel CIAIIPORD MR& a kw obrervatioos In reply. which
were weedy esphwaterf of h frock.

llie queflion was that pat spat Mr. Sheridasis wake, sal
carried ww. sea

Mr. S•11111DATI Out 1110•011 dot the SI eider do ignite to the
Lords Lieutenants or Counties. &c. the Wm d the Hoofs to the
Row itebloths.--Agreed t ea. r

Mr. SIMIDAII emir .need that a mots be assal: and en-
tared ipso the *rush of the mama and number of the volunteer
mops who he the mostsest till the nest meeting of Par-
liament amid thankftes and be accepted by his Ms-
Jelly, le enter that their perk* amide may be handed down to
Waft ear Web pelltorky ~greimi to om.
homed amounts were prresent from the India Haute. which
drew bosh ken oblermelons from Mr. Francis and Mr Sheridan ;
after which the acommis were ordered to he on the table. and to
be peleard.
Mr. HOTCOMINISI dim Irak M adM to the tattles be bad
elven of bringing forward a modem mired's, the prefect Rate of
Ireland. la his spike k ems dim too late se ham ) °Veldt)
to agitate a "When of hick ddiesey and inspostanee. He them-
fore inked. If bell were the pkofors of the Houk, to defer him
motion tin to-morrow, if k was inuttuked that the Haft lhould
lit on that day. othrrwlk be &mid Mw ftibent to the Houfe
what oblersadems be bad to make opentime Important queftloo.
Lord HAWILIWIIT obferved that the Houle would mat
Ineg"". warek_ ?re *ma, aid he hoped that the Honourable
Centienian wend sot Istrodnee • Anted of 'di magnitude In a
thin Hook, and when • NI ammilmoo might be peododUr of
filch perk/sal iacenvadenes
Mr. WIN• 111.111 commiled. that after a hid., of lee bows, the
anemias of the Houk mold we be oppl to the difeollos of •
uebjcd lb Wyk:ate and monientom
Morriss• was muneadhey ..be eidervadoom to
the him Je& when be was cased to ardeibltbdpasher. oho
obknted that dent was p• prellime before theioill.
Mr. HIPTCIIIIIIOII 8-.. t mike thal4 booed Is-sorrow
febmit hi' Inlip4t4l asaila at the itraf•Adisseet4 at half mit
teat o'clock.