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.ttelent of the law imposing A;lt, 611 to:moulds.
ii ,e Gentleman observed, since his re-
tiring.., ne from ffice he had known but little of the
,sa whoich &s law had been carried into effect;
bra oneestre, during the time he was conversant with
the subject, had he known an application for lemis •
sion of fines to Government, where any thing like a
case was. made out, disregarded. Ile had risen to-
right only to exculpate himself, whatever might be
the result of the vote of to-night. If the law was
continued he could not regret that a law which he
had himself proposed should still prevail. If Parlia-
rent, in its wisdom, should think it ought to coati-
i ueno longer, he should fc:2l it his duty to submit.
Mr. W. POLE and Mr. DAWSON explained.
Mr. FRENCH was in favour of the Motion. • He
considered the law as most oppressive: it made the
innocent pay for the guilty. if such was to be the
law of Ireland, let it be the law of England and Scot-
Ind also. The Act had been ptoduclive of the worst
effects to morality and religiori: •htet would rest on
the opinion of the Judges of Irelifili i 411$1 if only one
of these was found to differ frorkhim in opinion that
-to Act had ever produced so n4idh perjury as this
had done, he never would don Os mouth in the
Botts: of Commons again.
31-,-. PEEL raid, the system, th6pgb itamight have
been oppressive in particulir itidivi ' cases; yet,
-illy it had been prodybtlea Fr - !se* effects ~
Id
I( WAS only in two counties tfiat,,tlieskaw had failed
to eff:ct its object. The Right honourable Gentle-
man then proceeded to comment cai the two Reports
of the Committees appointed to inquire into the state-
of Ireland, as respected illicit distillation made in
Maud 1813, which, he said, fully proved the good
effects produced by this system.
Colonel BARRY was decidedly hostile to this
systent, which he contidered as unjust and destructive
of the religion, health, and morals of the people, He
!hid declared this opinion when examined before the
Committee, and should be always ready to do the
same in his place in Parliament.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER,
while he gave his sanction to this system, was far
from giving it as his decided bpinion that it could
not be blended so far with the licensing of small stills
as should establish a rivalry to the smugglers with
their own particular class of customers—(hear, hear).
Ink he said this, however, 'he could not, holding
the situation he did, consent to a system of, vacilla-
tion which must be injurious to the Revenue.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT thought the conduct of
the Ministers of the Crown to-night was the most ex-
traordinary. Had the Right on. Gentleman who
had just sat down formed any opinion when he came
,!own to cite House to-night, or had any new light
broken in upon him? If such was not the case, bow
was it that he differed in opinion on this subject with
those who should act with him ? or were the House
to think that on this, as on all other great public
questions, his Majesty's Ministers were of different
rpinions?—(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentle-
man then proceeded to speak to the merits of the
tinestion then before the House, and said,. he would,
never compromise his opinion in the House, in com-
pliance with any majority which might appear Against
.:im.,-(Hear, hear.) He trusted no one would think
the worse of him for this declaration.—(Hrer, hears 4
He was in favour of the present system. If that sYs-
thin had not succeeded in Donegal and Tyrone, it
was the &tilt of Gentlemen of fortune res Ming in
those counties.—(No! Ne!)—Gentlemen might • cry
No;,'No! but he said Yes, Yes ! The Right Hon.
Bkitinet then accused the Administration of want of
Smits, and a vacillation of conduct, highly inju-
rious to the intei ests of Ireland, and of the country at
large.—(Hear, flea, Hear !)
• Lord CASTLEREAGH could not but consider
the attack of the Right Hon. Gentleman upon his Ma-
'jetty's Ministers as wholly uncalled for7-(1 lear, hear.)
':'tat vacillation had his Right Honourable Friend,
`-.t. Chancellor of the Exchequer, beeb guilty of? he
Pad done that which he was bound to do, in defe-
;eace to Parliament. He had conceded to the gal-.
..nt General his Motion, and thought it right to sub-
mit his opinion to the consideration of -a Committee,
that the wisdom and attention of the House might
to directed to it---(Hear, hear)--and this the Right
Honourable Baronet called vacillation.

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.Ir. BENNETT defended the line of conduct
adoptedly his Right Hon. Friend (Sir J. Newport).
lie saw what it was which induced the Chancellor of
tie Exchequer to consent to the Motion of his gal-
hat Friend ; it was because the Right Honourable
Gentleman saw his most constant friends and sup-
porters falling from him. The Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer had said, the first duty of Government was
to protect the revenue: he differed in opinion from
Right Honourable Gentleman ; the first duty of
ii3vemment, in his opinion, was to protect the mo-
rals of the people.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER de-
nied that he had said the first duty of a Government
vas to protect the Revenue ; what he said was, that
s•talion as Finance Minister, called oa him to
ure.l over the Revenue—(Hear, hear).
after fen' words from Mr. PARNELL, Mr. PEEL,
lid General HART, the Motion was agreed to. And
it ns ordered, that the House should on Friday next
rtiolve itself into a Committee.
JOIIN NEWPORT presented a Petition Irma the In-
klitints of Vauphall, in Ireland, praying a repeal of the Win-
.4ts In. The Light Hon. Baronet took occasion to observe,
tit he agreed with the Petitioners in considering the Tax inju-
-17» to the interest of the community in general, but partku-
141a severe and oppressive with regard to its operation on the
*ilia; and industrious classes of the Irish people.—Ordered
kit.: on the table.
riTzt;E'itAl.D presented a Petition to the same effect
it'-c the Inhabitants' of the County of Kerry.—Ordered to lie
tc*.ite table.
Fain:bscd.urgh nod Glasgow Union Canal Bill was read a third
s
r4n7irt the Order Of the Day fur the second reading of the
.tns lient.fice Bill,
:.If' I'LIiNKE'I'T rose and objected to its principle as creat-
:. essential difliorence between the laws of Rngland and Scot-
and aTectir.g the sat? of advowoons, and the right of pre-
-akin% da-..ing vacancy. The Hon. and Learned Islemba
Ind, that if tile interests of religion required an alteration of
s• itW fee in one country, it was equally necessary in the other.
Ugli A 1)V OCATE replied, and the Bill was ordered
tract Eby six months.
4bns flu Fiance Bill was rescra third time and passed.
.2,;'...r,r1h-• 41°1101 of Sir 11. Pajulact.,o the Holyhead Road Bill
red to be read a third time on Tuesday next.
C. BILL presen
ted a Petition from the 1/istillers of Lon-
- tTrylagain..t any alteration in the Townland.Fines Upon it-
-2),.l:ll.‘tion.—ihliered to lie on the table
tr;,, anti. of Lord CArrimaxisott, the slimes of Members
!orn xeqerdttra ballot were reported. They were or-
s.- st.cad the ballet on Tuesday next.srl/ditaurned-