Star.
London, England, 1818-03-06 00:00:00

The follow•iag is a specimen of the observations:

" These four rt,trictior.s are contrary to the law of natiur.s. It
was then to ameliorate the lot of the detsined perianth that the
Ministers caused themselves to be invested with the right ar
making restrictions. No Instance can be cited in the hi-aory o
Great Britain ur France, in which prisoners of war were seat:to
be detained in another hemisphere, on an Isolated rock In t%e
midst of the seas. if the only object was the safety of the .Is~
tendon*, there was no wain of curie or houses in England; but
the grand requisite was the devouring climate of the Tropic!
" The second restriction (chat of the title of General Bona-
parte) has also no relation to the security of the &tenth"; it
has the effect of rendeting the position of this Prince Inure
grievous. Prisoners of war, when they fall into an mcgny's
power, are recognized by the title which they have borne at
home : but the Bourbons ctast.tl not to reign in France; dm
Republic,and the footth d.;1....it7, were net legitimate gouge_
ments. n what are there new principles founded? if the
Fantlith Government acknowledge that the Bourbons reigned In
France.at the time of the Peace of Amiens, in iscg, they 2„e_
knewleflge that Cardinal York reigned in Easglu.d at the Treaty
of Peace in 78Z. ; that Charka XI 11. does not reign •in Swe-
den. To sanction these principles would be to threw all throne s
into disorder, and to propagate the germs of revolution ainong
all nations."

Maacn 4, 1818.—The following Benefit Tickets
were drawn this Day, viz.
No. 8,770, as, Fires-drawn - X 5,000
10,70, 88 Sete :id-drawn I,coo
11,0q3, Prize of 500
4,129, Prize df 200
5,788, Prize of 200
—The above were all Shared and Sold at the Old
Offices of SWIFT and Cb. N 0.31, Poultry ; 12, Cha-
ring-Cross ; and 31, Aldgate pet-street ; where un-
drawn Tickets and Shares continue on sale for the
3 Prizes of £90,000, and numerous other Capitals,
yet in the Wheel.--Tbasno, 17th instant, is the
day appointed for the next drawing.

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'ARi PROCEEDINGS.

•NoysE OF LORDS, MARCH S.
Map goal recAved from the Commons, presented by
&mast, requesting a copy df the Report of their Laid-
Committse on the Poor's Laws; and also of the Evidence
before the Committee on that subject.
LORD CHANCULLOR, after putting ifsi fainfloin,
of their Lordships' Committee skoold be
iledgertCoinnsorts, at desired—
Aeolis was received from the Caellenoos, pre-
Dbouesting
.copies at the Report of their
0.-oe, to whom certain Papers, by
com-
Il%liniss the Prince Regent, were referred.
was formally put, the Messengers were in-
- CHasiou.s.oss, that their Lordships would
Messengers of their own.
)ERDALE, after some observations re-
me quality and price of. Gold Ind Silver
latter, in the market, at certain different
regular Standard Myer, and that used
he current Coins, and 'the necessity of
. peculiar importance fully *fore their
the production of accounu of the prim of
periods ; the rates of Micheletti and the
circulation at certain inteivals, be-
... 1. 1797, and the tat •of January, 1818;
accordingly.
41 NS DOWNE observed, it had been his is-
forth! second reading of the Jail Chap-
c it appeared that one of the clauies"Was
strong objections,' on which account he
hirther progress of the &oat BM,but stow
second tiry On tkAt day,three months,

accordinEly.
\RQUIS OF HASTINGS. •
lANCELLO4, acqtlainted the
received a letter from this distin-,
dated Cawnpor*, 19th
,Septern-,
to his official communication of
of Thanks to that Noble Mar-
and Men under his command,
conduct throughout, and in ter-
War.
couched in the general language,
loble Writer's grateful sense of the
conferred, and stating, that his hum-
overrated in their Lordships'
successful result was most essen-
skill and bravery of those Off ..
he had the honour to com-
rould venture to assert, that he
in his power to promote the sta-
_:mpire in India, under an honest
:best interests of that country, and
thereby promoted. In concluding,
sresse i his sincere gratitude to
Learned Lord for the very handsome
had personally expressel him-
-The Letter was, us the usual
entered upon the Journals.
>VANITY BILLS.
Day upon which their Lordships'
being read—on the question for the
Bill : .

ND said, notwithstanding he al-
amendments, and in some respects
' been made in the Bill, he could
_ vote for it inits present state.
towever, decidedly oppose the third
' move that the Bill be recommit7ll
being divided into two separate
referred to objects which were
if distinct and separate
held it necessary those respect-
..io had acted laudably on the re-
should receive a Parliamentary pro-
he considered how small a por-
cormation on the subject was before
all that took place went more
of what might have happened,
knew had actually occurred, he.
. to his public duty to acquiesce
now stood. lie thereibre moved
:rtnimitted.
then put.
>wed, and made a variety of' oh-
the measure. The rejection of a
• a Noble and Learned Friend in
cltAe from its protection persons
iciously in the performance of
irrned him the more in his hosti-
The consideration also, that
had been done proceeded upon pr
the proceedings in many respects
vtaracter of those of the Inquisi-
Office, at least as far as regard-
:her strengthened his sentiments.
ioption of such a Bill also, on a
-sating a dangerous precedent-
- 1818 he feared would be often
was farther apprehensive the
_. and rebellion would be encou•
prote‘lion extended to those who pro-
...as seen they were protected and
persons in the highest office. Much
on the alleged connexion be-
isturbances in the country and
London, but the whole of this
evidence of Oliver alone. Thus
he could not at least but sup-
_. his Noble Friend.
'IJRST contended that the proposition
for dividing the Bill into two
ly inconsistent in its nature, and
with the principle on which the '
proceeded. The Noble Lord was
srotection to the Magistrates, but
object was to give the due and
to those persons who afforded '
upon which the Magistrates'acted
_ preservation and security of the
departure from that principle would
tpectable persons (the Magistrates) to
langerous dilemma; they might
sir own defence, to give up those
, information was derived. With
Indemnity, their Lordships were
of Suspension were unavoidably
ires of the kind. And such mea-1
were generally grounded oq. the
; that In 1801 proceeded on the
which•elicited in the course of I
present Was grounded on specific t
and there was not only the decision
',.en on the occasion, but it had the I
idation that no warrants were
information upon oath ; this cir- •
distinguished it from the case
measurei,lie must contend, was neces-
- of thtsountry ; iu {his view, with,

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reference to its necessary effect upon future occur-
rences, so long an established rule ought not to be
departed from. The principle which governed An
conduct of the Secretary of State throughout the
whole of the proceedings was highly to his credit,
•and chiefs with respect to his issuing • no warrants i
except upon information stated upon oath, and what
had happens4*-Cninets •af .brstiner«though verdicts
may not have attached upon some of Ile accused,
yet it clearly shewed the existence of d'S/tterous •con- •
spiracy. He deprecatftdi:apy. line of conduct that'
would leave men‘Who*Warlitdably, exposed to
all the effects of aggrivited vaity 'malice. The
whple of what-was-done towards the suppression of
a Most dangerous and alarming conspiracy, unavoid-
ablrproceeded on the principle of confidence in his
Majesty's •Government—a confidence which alone
enabled the Government to shew they had duly ex-
ercised the extraordinary poWers entrusted to them.
And he trusted Picliiment would set its face against
a line of conduct which would materiallytend to
counteract or destroy all the good which had beeli
achieved.

Earl GROSVENOR said, • the Noble _Earl's de-
fence of secret informers, implied an attack upon
our laws, which, so far from covering up-evidence
from all but the interested and favoured eye, sifted
it carefully to the'botiOm, and exposed it to •tiew ;
those lads, which protected even spies, but did riot
conceal them—Veer, hea,.l—The Noble Earl boast-
ed, that information hid been ,received *ply upon
oath ; but Still it. was information ca.-parte. Were
witnesses examined upon oath on the opposite side?
Even this e.r-perte information upon oath, the only
*evidence was the exiirrte statement' of tht Noble
Earl. deprecated this Bill as a dreadful prece-
dent, which the weak and wicked-Ministers of a fu-
ture day Vould not fail to lay hold of, against the
justice. the-resentment, et the contempt of the na-
tion. Be feltit necessary to advert for a moment
to the circoinatances which were stated on the grounds
Of this- Bill. The Report of last year was relied on.
But let the House recollect how that Committee was
grossly abused about the existence of an alarming
club in the metropolis, hich ceased to exist long
before; how the Report excited general consternal
tion'by the 'discovery of this club and its wide-spread
ramifications, and how the whole turned out to be a
palpable mistake--(hear, hear.)—He remembered
clubs at the same period to which the Report did
not allude, in a county not unknown to the Noble
Viscount. This associaticm.was denominated " The
Knights of Brunswick"—a new Order, not created
by the Sovereign, yet causing n 1 alarm, and passed
over in the Report. A new Order, as if there were
not already orders enough, "of the Bath, the Thistle,
the Leek," &c.—(llear, hear.) He did not, how-
ever, object to the latter, being himself half a Welsh-
man.. Another ground was, the dissemination of
profane Parodies. Let the authors be tried, and
punished, with all his heart ; but let not his Majesty's
Ministers be the prosecutors. If Mr. Hone be tried
for writing, cr pu!)lishing Parodies, it was too much
that Ministers should be his accusers, when some
Right lionour4ble Gentlemen and Noble Lords, had
indulged their vein in setting him the example.—
" If Clytemnestra fall, let it not be by the hand ofi
Oreste;'. But in truth, it was not the parody on
religicir., but the ridicule of Ministers, that had
brought those persons to trial—:(hear, hear, hear.)
He had heard the histOei of a. distributor of blas-
phemous publications' in a' certain county ; the cul-
prit was discovered and aka:mined; he turned out to
be 'the servant of a very loyal 'gentleman (in the
Nc ble Viscount's sense of loyalty). and he was never
pnr.ished. It was his conviction, from the tone of
the measures lately proposed—the language of Mi-
nisters—the language Of the Noble Earl opposite—
the language of the Bill, that the present Admini-
stratir)r. were labc,_:ring to change the Government
into a despotism ; that is, to deprive the weak of his
protection against the strong—the poor against the
rich—altd the people against the Minister—an alarm
was expressed by the Noble and Learned Lord on
the Woolsack, respecting the temper and designs of
the poor; and the French Revolution was ascribed
to the lower orders. But he contended, the danger
was not to be apprehended from the humbler classes;
and that the French Revolution was produced, not
by the poor, but by the abuses of a tyrannical and
corrupt Government. Who was so blind as not to
discover the strong tendency to despotism, at the
present day ? The torrent of despotic rage was
bursting, like burning lava, over the Continent : and
every one of the arbitrary Governments of Germany
that are now trampling upon the little state of Saxe-
Weimar, because the Liberty of the Press had .
there established, must all suffer a similar convul-
sion. But let not the partisans of despotism hope to
succeed in extinguishing that day-star of liberty,
which was the source or moral, as well as political
light and health to civilized man.
" Think'st thou yon sanguine cloud
}lath quench'd the orb of day ;
To-morrow he repairs his golden flood,
And lights the nations with redoubled ray."
The Noble Earl concluded, with referring to the
Financial Administration of the Noble Lofds oppo-
site ; expressing his opinion, that it would be found
necessary to apply the Sinking Fund to the exi-
gencies of the public service, and supporting the
Amendment.
The Bishop of EXETER expresser:ldris surprise at
what had fallen from the Noble Earl on the subject
of those dangerous religious parodies which he seemed
to treat so lightly ; the more so, as he had always
considered the Noble Lord as a serious man. VW-
his part, he regarded these publications in a Very
dangerous light ; and although a witty casual pro-
duction of an individual may have been overlooked,:
it was no reason why a continued series of the most
dangerous libels and parodies against the established',
religion,of the c-r,untry should be suffered to proCeecf
without prevention or punishment. The consequences"
of such publications may be highly calamitous. No
small mischief had been occasioned by them, and it
was the duty of his Majesty's Government, by every
means in their power, to prevent the continuance of
a practice so dangerous, and of this he thought the
Noble Earl himself must be sufficiently aware.
The Earl of GROSVENOR, hi 'exPlaeationi re-
peated his opinion, that the prosecutions, instead of
allaying, tended only to increase the -evil ; it served
too widely to disseminate those obnoxious publica-
tions, of which not one in a hundred were- seen be-
foie the prclecutior.:: took place. Abstractedly to

man could hold the interests of religion more sacred
than himself.
The Bishop of EXETER contended that the dan-
gerous publications in question were widely dissemi-
nitted among the lower orders before the prosecatiOns
had been instituted.
Lord ROLLE agreed in opinion with the Hon. and
Rev. Prelate ; and took occasion to panegyrise the
conduct of the Magistrates-who had been active in
suppressing the late disturbances, and whom he
thought worthy of the protection of Parliament. ' •":
The LORDCHANCELLOR said, the Noble Earl's
speech was so closely to the point, that not one word
he )tad said bore in the slightest agree upon • the
question before the House, viz. whether the Bill
shrsula be Separated into two parts? The %Uttar]
had referred to him as " the Noble and Learned Lord
or, the Woolsack," (which was Ms usual priclice; at
least once in each speech) as having expressed fears
of the designs of • the poor against the rich—(hear.)
—But he would then declare 'that he was much
more afraid of the rich than the poor. The Noble
Earl would not bring to frial those infamous publi-
cations, Which aimed at the destruction of religion
in general, not of the establishedChurCh only, which
was but one form of propagating christianloctrine ;
which attacked at once the altar and the Throne.—
Those who distributed such vile publications were
answerable for what had befallen those who had be-
come the victims of public justice—aye, even those
who had paid the penalty Of their lives? yet the
Noble Lord would not have them prosecuted. What
was this but a proclamation that all that was dearest
to us as subject! and as men, might be attacked with
impunity—(kear, hear.) He should make but one
observation more. He had been a law officer, and
knew the obloquy attending the exercise of those
powers ; and he took that opportunity of declaring,
that in his opinion, the present law officer of the
Crown had performed his public duty, in the most
exemplary and faithful manner; and moreover, that
if he had not instituted trials as he had done, he
would not have deserved what 'he (the Lord Chan-
cellor) had just said of him.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE condemned the
Bill as a precedent for future indemnities, even where
the information given might be false. This system of
secret information was more congenial to the laws of
Venice than those of England. Their Lordships
should take care (as it was in somewhat homely
terms expressed by Mr. 'Windham) that they not
only were convinced, but came honestly by their
conviction, of the grounds of this Bill. Did their
Lordships know what Merit acts had been done?',
against whom, or by whom—whilst they proceeded
to grant a sweeping indemnity. It was even found
necessary, to refer to petitions scouted by, the Noble
Lords as unworthy of notice, for inforniationurnra
paint introduced into-the Bill; vizi arrestsloireland.
(hear.) His Lordship conoludert 4:ipportifir the
amendment.
The Earl of WESTMORELAND defijad-eil the
Bill, and whilst he ddiliece old atitSE -oetilx.person
upon the sole evidence of inTOntirei-1,-- cariteMed- that-
that description of personshad, during the late war,
and at various periods of our history, been found ne-
cessary for the salvation of the constitution. •
The Earl of CARNARVON spoke in support of
the amendment, after which the House divided.
For the third reading 45, Proxies 48 ; 93—Against
it 1a.,. Prosies 15; 27.—Majority 66.
The Bill was accordingly read a 3d time and passed.
Adjourned at ten o clock.

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PARLIAMENT,
,
i 1 e . . •NOV'SE OF :
* . A XsINV* xral cecAved
. Mr. S. Bowan*, requesting 1
) sbipe-Onaliwittee on the Po
gives before the Committee
iite LORD ORA NCR]
Stating that the Report of d
l communicated to the Colton
A second Moser was
sented•brOr'
Lordships' Seoret9b=
mend of his Rotel litlinks
After the question was fo
fanned by the Lows Casa
send an.answer by Messeng
The Bari of tAIIDERI
specting the comparative qt
,
• Bullion, especially the lintel
recent periods, with the rel
for the manufacture of the
having a subject attach pet
Lordships, move for the pr
Bullion at diffdent periods
number of Bank Notes in
• eleven the Ist of January; 1
Which was ordered tccordir
1 Tbe Marquis of LANSD
' tendon to move this day fur
lains' Salaries Bill; but it s
found liable to some stron
should not press the further
move that it be read the jet
which was ordered accordin
, . TIILMARQ
• The LORD CHA
House, that he had rec
guished Nobleman, dg
ber, 1817, in answer tc
their Lordships' Vote ,
• quis, and the Officers :
for their meritorious cc
mutating the Nepaul N
• The Letter was cout
s expressive of the Noble
lb high honour so conferr
ble efforts were much
estimation ; that the sill
tially induced by the s'
cers and men whom
1 ' ... wand ; but that he wt
had ohiitted nothing it
:
1 .
• b:lity of the British En
cor.viction, that thebes
t . of humanity, were the'
• the Noble Writer expr
the Noble and Learnec
manner in which he
self on the 'occasion.—
way, ordered to be eat
ID DE:
The Order of the D
were summoned being
third reading of the B
Lord AUCKLANE
. .
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improvements, had b,
not bring his mind to
He should not, howev,
reading, but would m
ted, in order to its be
. ,
i . . Bills, as the, present s
i properly the objects of
Live provisions. He h
able Magistrates who
' cent occasions should
tection. But wisest h
Lion of actual infornia
the House, and when
on the presumption o
I; than from what they I
could not recor.cile it 1
in the measure as it nc
List the Bill be re-con
i..
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1 • The question was tF
Lord KIIICti fullow4
serrations agair.st the
proviso' moved by a
the Committee, to excl.
, who had acted mall(
I, . i t th,Ar functions, cor.firs
. , ; try to the measure.
~ 1 every thing which has:l
3 1 ' parse grounds, and the
li wearing rather the ch
tion, or of the Holy 0
ed their secrecy, farth,
s i 11,! deprecated the ads
ground of its constito
the Indemnity Act of
1( r
. adverted te. And he
excitement to treason
raged by the protecti
i ' • rooted it, when it was
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patronised by person
stress had been laid
twccn the partial din
the machinations in L
1 I rested merely on the e
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viewing the question,
port the motion of his
East BATHIJRST
of the Noble Lord fi
parts, was one highly
I
l' ( utterly incompatible s
measure evidently pre
willini to afford pro
i i the more important o
necessary protections
.
' ' I:
. 1 that infornsation upo
t
so laudably for the pi
I country. Any depar
reduce these respecta
a distressing and da
,-.1 .
I , be compelled, in thei
, 1 • sources whence their
fr .
) respect to a Pill of 1r
aware that all Acts o
‘ followed by measure
sun's as the present 1
1 - rts.oriety of the facts
I known occurrences
• several yeari. The p
J . and known facts, and
of a Committee taker
peculiar recommend
•, • , issued ercept on inf
cunstance materially
of 1801. The measu
nary for the safety of
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