Star.
London, England, 1819-07-03 00:00:00

MR. H. SWAWN.

Mr. C. HERVEY presented a Petition from this
Gentleman, praying that the House would give direc-
tions that Mr. Serjeant ti ho was his ccnfidential
Counsel upon the Election Committee for l'enryn,
should be released irom his engagement by the At-
' torney-General, to conduct the prosecution against
him for bribery, at the next Assizes for Cornwall.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL observed, that an

application to this effect was made to the :Attorney-
General • but he thought proper to refuse it, on the
ground ;hat the learned Serjeant alluded to was the
principal law Serjeant on the circuit for conducting
crown prosecutions; and also that he had conducted
the prosecution some time ago against Sir C. Haw-
kins, although the learned Serjeant had had the same
relatiou to Sit Christopher on the Committee which
gave birth to the prosecution that he had lately held
with the petitioner. Besides, the learned Serjeant
having attended the consultation of the Crown Law-
yers upon the subject of this prosecution, he could
not, with any degree of consistency, be discharged
from his engagement for the Crown, so as to become
the advocate tor petitioner.
Mr. WYNN was not aware what kind of relief the'
petitioner could receive. The House had instructed
the Attorney-General to commence a prosecution
against him, and thq conduct of that proceeding
must, therefore, be left to that Law Officer.
The petition was then rejected without a division.
CANADA.

Mr. F. DOUGLAS, seeinit an Honourable Gentle-
man in his place;begged to now if the commotions
which had existed in North America, and alluded to
on a former night, might be considered as now sup-
pressed ?
Mr. GOULBURN replied, that he had stated, on
the night alluded to, that measures had been institu-
ted by Government for.the maintenance of order in
the Settlements where these commotions had pre-
vailed, and that there was every reason to expect that
they would prove effectual.
Mr. BENNETT wished to know if Government
were in possession of the proceedings which took
place upon the trial of the person who was con-
demned and ordered for execution in these Settlements?
Mr. GOULBURN replied, that Government was
not in possession of an official copy of the trial.
CAMELFORD ELECTION.

Mr. D. W. HARVEY, after observing that enough
of time had been allowed for the consideration of this
case, to enable every Member to make up his mind
upon it, moved that the Report of the committee on
this Election be taken into consideration this day six
months.

•Mr. WYNNE thought such a course as that now
proposed would be very inconvenient, and; alluding
to the situation of William Hallett, now in custody,
and to the circumstance that no writhad been issued
for the election of a new Member for this Borough,
moved as an Amendment, that the Report of the
Committee be taken into further consideration ort-
Monday next, when Mr. Hallett should be called be-
fore the House.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR thought the House cugl:t to
proceed immediately to this Report, and he intemled
to move an Amendment to that effect.
Lord CASTLEREMiII rose to order, and
The SPEAKER suggested, that there was a mo-
tion and amendment before the House, which mu .t
be disposed of before any other amendment could
be proposed.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR proceeded to say that no care
had been made out against the Borough general:-,
yet the House was called upon to suspend the issuing
of the writs for an indefinite period. The Committee
had made no report against the Boronsh, yet it was

in effect that this Borough be aisfranchisetl.
not dealing Lilly by the electors of Camel-
was proposed that Mr. Hallett, (Who had
from giving evidence before the Commit-
he would have been examined upon oath,)
Monday be called before the House, and
not upon oath, with the view of extracting
From him which should inculpate the whole
le Electors of the Borough of Camelford.
;Ole moved, that the order for-further con-
* Report of the Committee be now read.
W. HARVEY said, that the Honourable
Wynne) seemed not to have con-

kr. Nary. ey's) nunion very correctly. lie
think that Mr. Hallett, was. a Petitioner

House, praying that he might be admitted
to prove one of the most flagrant instances
ion and bribery that had ever been dis-

'he Couusel *hi; conducted the case before

tteei undertook to prove a conspiracy for
a corrupt o.ection for this Borough; and
of 'the Committee shewed that -this bad

out to a great degree. The facts were,
were twenty-nine Electors for Camelford

Borough had been frequently the object of
'ter; and that it was now the property of
,nrd whom he would not name, as those

-eceived the Report must know that his

name was no secret-,(Laughter). Shortly
last Eection, a meeting of live of the
vas held at an Inn, wear the Borough,
1)e All-worthy," where they met a certain
Divine, who expressed .to them a desire to
Members to Pailiamant. To ibis desire
is made no objecdon,. but annexed only
ioa, namely. that a large Ism of money
deposited for certain purposes, mentioned
IS at the meetbig. With this condition,
:d.that the Reverend Divine did not, or

,omply. The five Electors, however, aid
ton their design, . Accordingly they met
\other Inn, e;dled the u Five Lanes," near

where a letter,
.signed James Harvey,
offering sir thousand pounds for pro•
return •of •two Members for the Bo-

be distributed among any fifteen Electors.
posal nas agreed to. The reply to the
:h contained An acceptance of the propo-
,slressed to a Mr. Sibley, the partner of Mr.
was proved before the Committee, that
.t,Mad held up .C6OOO before his partner
td said--6, Sibley, do you think the Camel-

:ors will bite at this ?"- As a security for
it appeared that the half notes of the £6OOO
sited at Camelford. In the end, however,
!racy failed, and the election was lost. On
ever it did not appear thttithe hilf notes
delivered back : for it was proved that
Sibley had said—" What damned rogues
ielford Electors. are—for, do you know, I

get back the half notes from them without
)me compromise." After all this, Ise did
tow the House could forbear from eplling
nt before them, considering that be bad abr
to avoid giving evidence before the Com-.
had also appeared before the Committee that,
two sets of candidates, both on the Mini-,
;rest. But as they found, they could not all,
hey agreed to settle their claims by the taste-
of drawing tickets out of a tea pot—(laughter)
is way. the lot-had fallen on Mr. Stewart an 4
tt ; the two unsuccessful candidates Leis*
lanmer and Mr. Collett. There was no m
al for abolishing the abuses and corruption;
-ough system, as by taking each particular
:h came before the House, and punishing
appeared guilty. The arguments of the
tble Baronet (Sir F. Burdett) yesterday, by
contended that it was injustice to inflict pu.
in individual eases when corruptions of the
td were so general, were erroneous. It was
tended by an Honourable Member (Nlt. M.
)r) that it was hard to punish the whole 29
For the mideeds of only five of them. But
Ino force in this. It was no object with him
borough belonged to a Noble Lord of mi-
politics ; he would be for acting in the
ty whether the politics of the proprietor were
aor ministerial—(Hear, hear.) It seemed
tat by such a system as that which prevailed
'rough there were two Houses of Lords, and
Peerage was represented in both Reuses—
ran) He therefore thought the. House ought,
ttly with its dignity, to prosecute this matter.
tASTLEREAGH said, the Hon. Member
to think he was adverse to further proceed-
this case. But that was not the fact. He
agreed with the proposal of the Honourable
, Mr. Wynn.—(Ficar, hear.)—All that be
vas, that the House might be saved from an
ary debate this night.
J.W. HARVEY protested that he never meant
personally to the Noble Lord (Castlereagh)
he said generally as to Ministerial politics. .
CASTLEREAGH said, he did not under-
te Honourable Member as having alluded to
•sonally in what he now mentioned. He had
-eferred to the general course of argument of

,ourable Gentleman.
'HIM ROSE thought the House ought to
to the Report immediately, and that it would
;t to call before them Mr. Hallett.

BATHURST could not agree to the motion,
es a connected proof of agency was placed
..'.:em by their Committee, they should not
to procure further evidence, nor to any in-
ion for this purpose. By the same rule, all
House had done in the cases of Penryn and

.ple was irregular. As to the objection, that
use would be calling upon an individual to
idence as to acts of criminality in which he
F was involved, that might be a good reason
)viding an indemnity to the Witness placed in
ircumstances, bat it was no reason why the
should refuse to proceed in an investigation,
ti?uld shut its eyes to abuses which were appa-
, the whole world besides—(hear, hear). As to
he effect of the evidence might be, it would be
for the House to decide when it was in pos-

of it. Those who thought that there was
,rit ground of corruption made out against this
it to justify further inquiry, must agree to the
of the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Wynn).
C. BURRELL thought the House ought to go
ideate to the utmost.
BROUGHAM hoped his Honourable Friend

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(Mr. Taylor) would agroe to withdraw his opposition
till further inquiry; and proposed the attendance of
John Herriot at the Bar to-morrow, as the further
consideration of the Grampound Election would oc-
cupy the attention of the House on Monday.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR consented to withdraw his
opposition to the Motion.
Mr. WYNN, akhough it was unusual to enter on
any business which would extend their sitting to any
considerable length on a Saturday, had no objection
to accommodate those interested to-morrow.
Mr. I3RAGGE BATHURST objected to the fur-
ther progress to-morrow. It had always been under-
stood that their sittings on Saturday were merely to
advance a stage or two in Private Bills, and not for
the purpose of entering into long discussions.
Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN observed, that a
great many of the Members, after the severe dutyof
the week, were in the habit of leaving town on Sa-
turday, he was therefore of opinion, that Monday
would be preferable.
Mr. BROUGHAMpersisted.in his proposition for
to-morrow.

Mr. CALCRAFT stated, that his opinion these
would belittle or no chance of advancing farther on
Monday, as the Grampound Election would have the
priority ; and as on Tuesday, he was given to under-
stand, there would be an adjournment of the Honse,
to afford time to the Lords to get through the re-
mainder of their business previously to the Proroga-
tion of Parliament, his Hon. and Learned Friend was
obliged to propose to-morrow, or to lose any further
opportunity this Sessions. The adjournment would
therefore certainly take place, as there were no more
taxes likely to be imposed upon the people during the
present Session. Hut notwithstanding this usual
courtesy to the other House, he saw no reason why
the Commons should not sit on important business,
if necessary, till the very day of Prorogation. If not
able to pursue their investigation either on Monday
or Tuesday, Parliament ought to give those interes-
ted in the result, further time to proceed to a conclu-
sion. The Representative part of the Constitution was
qieeply connected in the decision : and the suspension
of such privileges was undoubtedly a circumstance
of the very first importance.
Mr. BR AGGE BATHURST stated, that the ques-
tion entirely depended upon whether the House would
or would not sit beyond Tuesday. If not, it was
obvious that the House could not resume' any busi-
ness after their adjournment, as their next meeting
would merely be for the purpose of hearing the Royal
Speech, and witnessing the Prorogation.
Mr.CALCR A FT wished that some other arrange-
ment could be formed, so as to afford them an op•
portunity of proceeding further in the examination
of the witnesses. •

Mr. LUSHINGTON assured the House, that with
regard to the adjournment on Tuesday, Gentlemen
might remain quite easy on that point, as there was
no authority whatever for such an assertion.

After some observations from Mr. WILBERFORCE,
Mr. Alderman Wool), and Mr. C. Witting, it was
agreed that the further consideration of the Report
on the Camelford Election should be resumed on
Monday ; and a question was put and carried to that
effect. It was also, on motion, ordered, that the
SPEAKER do not issue his warfant for a new Writ for
Camelford before Monday next.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY then moved, that William
Hallett be ordered to attend on Monday.—Ordered.
The Honourable Member afterwards moved, that
James Harvey be ordered also to attend on Monday.
This was a very important witness. He wrote the
memorable letter to the conspirators, giving them in-
structions how to act; and they answered that they
would attend to the contents of the letter—accord-
ingly, from the contents of that letter, the witness
Harvey could communicate to them, who the two
Gentlemen were that were introduced to the Elec-
tors offering them the sum of £6,000. They might
perhaps trace this transaction to the very Members
themselves. If the further examination of the evi-
dence were confined to Hallett, they would very
likely lose the interesting communication of Harvey;
the Honourable Member therefore strongly urged his

appearance.
Mr. BRAGGE BATHURST said, that the ques-
tion was not now respecting the disfranchisement of
the Borough, but merely whether or not a particular
evidence should be ordered for the next meeting. The
Honourable Member had always maintained, and
now repeated his assertion, that no writ ought to issue
till the House was fully satisfied. But as it would be
necessary to postpone the final consideration till nett
Session of Parliament, he saw no reason for so parti-
cularly urging the evidence.
Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN affirmed, that there
was already a sufficiency of proof before the House
to justify their withholding the issue of the writ.
Mr. C. WYNN was of opinion that some farther
progress might be made prior to the adjournment for
the Session.
Mr. WILBERFORCE proposed that James Har-
vey should 'attend on Wednesday instead of Tues-
day.—Ordered. '
It was also ordered that the Rev. John Mason do
attend on Wednesday next.
NEW souTrt
Mr. GOULBURN moved, that the House should
resolve itself into a Committee on the New South.
Wales Duties Bill—that is, a Bill of Indemnity in fa-
vour of Governor M'Quarrie and others, concerned
in levying local taxes, towards the maintenance of the
Government, without the authority of Parliament.
Mr. BENNETT condemned the Act, as there was
no necessity for it. He recommended its postponement
till next Session, on or before which they would be
furnished with better information. The Committee
could then be received in a more satisfactory manner.
There was nothing more prejudicial to the interests of
the Government at home, than to allow the Gover-
nor and his dependents -to impose arbiwa trary taxes on
the people of New South Wales. It s a very ob-
noxious measure, and deserved the reprobation of
Parliament. It was astonishing that his Majesty's
Government not only were about to sanction the con-
tinuance of such an odious custom, but to obtain
an indemnity for those guilty of such a violation
of our Constitutional principles, precluding all taxes
without an Act of Parliament—(Hear, hear, hear.)
The Governor not only imposed a duty upon all
shipping, but a duty upon the tonnage also, equal
to t:l5, upon a ship of 500 tons burden. He also
imposed a kind of poll-tax upon, all persons leaving
the Colony, at the rate of 2s. 6d. a head. Mr.

Campbell, the Secretary to the •Governor, was the
collector of this last duty; the latter put Is. 6cl. into
his own pocket, and who got the other shilling he
could not tell, although rumour gave scope to con-
jecture. The Honourable Member could not con-
ceive how Governor M,Quarrie had autlioriped such
arbitrary and obnoxious measures.
Mr. FORBES supported the Bill, and vindicated
the character of Governor M'Quarrie. With regard
to what had been odiously termed a poll tax, the
Honourable Gentleman ought to have recollected,
that no person could leave this country for the Con-
tinent without incurring a kind of poll-tax, that is,
a sum of money for his pass. In this view the Go-
vernor was therefore warranted. A certain Gentle-

man, then in his eye, had thrown out insinuations
against Governor M'Quarrie, for which he had no
well-grounded authority.
Mr. WILBERFORCE said, with some warmth,
that, by the rules of Parliament, no Geutlemun Was
authorized to allude to what had been mentioned on

any former debate. What he (Nis; Wilberforce) had
stated at the time alluded to he could not perfectly
recollect; but, referring to the usage of Parliament,
he thought himself unfairly dealt with by the ani-
madversions of the Hon. Member—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. BROGDEN, as Chairman of the Committee,
assured the Hon. Member (Air. Forbes) that any al-
lusion to a former debate was directly contrary to
the established rules of Parliament.

Mr. FORBES expressed himself obliged hi the in•
rmation of the last Honourable Member. If he had

;been misled by the heat of the moment, it arose from
his• anxiety for the character of Its much•esteemed
!fr►end (Governor M'Quan•ie). With regard to the
lquestion more immediately before the House, he
['thought the duties notonly too heavy on the exports,
but very impolitic also. As certain duties had been
laid on by his Majesty's Government, Governor Mac-
quarrie had thought himself authorized to levy more.
[ Some Gentlemen had amused themselves with con-
jectures on the immense Fortune supposed to have
been acquired by Governor M'Quarrie. He (Mr.
Forbes) could assure the House, confirmed by the
Governor's own lettert that, instead of having ac-
quired a fortune, on his return to this country he
would not be one sixpence richer than when he left
it (Hear, hear.) That it was certainly true, he (Mr.
Forbes) had been solicited to purchase a small estate
for him in Scotland, at a place for which he hap-
pened to have a great partiality, but that the Gover-
nor had hitherto never been able to repay him the
loan, amounting to £5,000.
Mr. C. WYNN submitted to the Committee, whe-
ther or not the Honourable Member was not tres-
passing on their time and patience ? It was totally
unparliamentary for the Committee or the House to
listen to the contradictions of every idle story or silly

report out of doors--(hear, hear).
Mr. BROGDEN hoped the Honourable Member
(Mr. Forbes) would confine himself to the subject of
discussion, without attempting to introduce estrane-
OM 'natter.

Mr. FORBES thought it necessary to vindicate
the character and conduct of Governor M'Quarrie,
whose fortune was so inconsiderable, that he had not
yet been enabled to return him his loan of £5OOO.

Mr. WILBERFORCE objected in some degree to
giving such unlimited power to Governor M4Quarrie.
As he hag been constantly accustomed to a-military
life, he might perhaps be,ill suited for the civil de-

Mr. GOULBURN stated, that Governor Mignarriti
had not exceeded the powers granted to his prede-i
'eessors in office. He differed from the last Hon.,
Member, as the Governor's general deportment was
very well calculated for both the Civil and Military
Departments. But the question was, whether they
Would consent to pass the present Bill, which went
to indemnify Governor M'Quarrie and others for le-
vying money in New South Wales without the audio-
tity of Parliament ? Although the Governor was'
warranted by precedent, he not doing more than
what had been done before, yet Government had
deemed it expedient to press a Bill of Indemnity for
this irregular or illegal proceeding. It had been long
ago submitted to the Crown Lawyers,-who had at
last advised the legalizing those duties which be-
fore had been illegal. If the Governor, and thosts,
concerned with him in the collection of the duties, +
were not protected by a Bill of Indemnity, they
would all remain exposed to actions or prosecutions.
If the Governor has been guilty of a violation of his
public duty—which he (Mr. Goulburn) was convinced
he had not—bring him to trial and punish him. But
let him not be exposed to malicious prosecutions Or
actions afterwards, for what Government by no means
condemned, however irregular the proceedings. The
duties were not imposed wantonly on the people ef
the Colony, but as acts of policy, and to prevent the
improper introduction of certain obnoxious articles.
The Honourable Member (Mr. Bennett) approved of
a Tax on Spirits, provided it was authorized by Par-
liament. The Bill now submitted to their considera-
tion would gratify the Honourable Member's wishes.
The Honourable Member (Mr.Goulburn) was against
postponing the Bill till near Session, as recommended
by the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Bennett). The
intentions of Government on the subject had been
announced soon after the meeting of Parliament.—
And the Honourable Member again repeated, that
GOvernor M'Quarrie had done no more by the im-
position ,of these Duties than to have followed the
example of his predecessors. •
Mr. C. WYNN was not satisfied with the Mere au-
thority of alt Under Secretary of State for the Bill
now proposed. He recommended its postponement
till next Session. But he doubted whether or not
they could pass such a measure without going into a
Committee of Supply.
Mr. ROINSON was enabled to remove the doubt
by assuring the Honourable Gentleman and he Corn-
ihittee, that Bills of Colonial Revenue had often been
pissed without the formality of a Committee of
Supply, and that he himself (Mr. Robinson) 4ad in-
isoduced and been the means of sanctioning such a
Mode, which he knew was strictly parliamentary.
• Mr BROGDEN explained the usage of Parlia-
ment on such occasions, confirming the assertions ,of
the lust Honourable Member.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER coy
roborated what had bten advanced respecting the
practice of Parliament., A Bill relating to Colonial
Revenue, or a Bill of Local Colonial Regulation,
might originate without a Committee of Supply ; but
a Bill for National Revenue could not,

Mr. sii*AtitUßSt hoped that no ostestrubtioa
would be given to the Bill, as there was no chute
of abuse; nut only a :echnical *rant of foils':
The CalarititiAtt reported progress, and btritioid
leave to sit again to-morrow.
efface's 'email) mt.
Lord JOCELYN, in proposing that the Itotrsi
should agree to the amendments which the House of
Lords had made in this Bill, took dccaiiiaii,• to eulo-
gise the Committee above ttaire, for the patience ed
attention with which they had inqutred into the
:claims of these people upon the House. It *as not
only the immediate object, who were interested, hilt
'the widows and orphans of the soldihs, and man).
other poor people wefe concerned in the result. He
said the House had been already so fully in possession
cif all the fact., that he deemed it-unnecessary to gd
into°them, aad would therefore only move that these
amendthents he read a second time.
' Mr. CANNING .vas anxious to call the attention
of the House to the immediate object before them.--a
/t was, whether or not they would agree to di:
Amendments of the Lords, which totally subverted
the principles of the Bill, or reject the Amend=
ments as a gross misconstruction of the meaning Of
the House of Commons. Some years ago, Certain
individuals in India were in the usage of advancing
loans to the Native Princes at enormous premiums.
Such a destructive system came under the cognizance
olthe Government at home and the Government in
India, and both united in reprobating such practices
of extortion. An Act'had been passed, therefUre, to
prevent such loans, as highly detrimental to the
policy and power of our Government in India:a-,
The Act had been widely promulgated, and was soon
well known in India, that there was hardly any
individual in the monied or mercantile line'who were
not fully aware of its contents and consequences. In
defiance, however, of this Act of policy and justice*
certain individdals had so violated its provision as to
continue to advance monies to the Native Princes;
Those individuals bad admitted that they knew such
a law had been passed but they excused themselvet
from the penalties by pretending that they were not
acquainted with its particular contents. The gi-ounds
(were threefold—lst. The Act had been sufficiently
promulgated, consequently that they might be said
to remain ignorant of its letter and spirit-2dlY, that
the advances made were to enable the Native Princes
to make good their engagements with the British
Government—Silly, that these advances had been
made in concurrence with the approbation of the
Government of Madras. All these allegations the
Right lion. Member denied. No person could rani
main ignorant of the nature of the Bill. The very
title sufficiently indicated its contents—" A .Bill to
prevent British Subjects from advancing Loans to
the Native Princes;' &c. One clause expressed—
" Nest to advance Loans to the Native Princes with-
out the approbation of .the Governor and Directors
at home, or the Governor-General in India," am--
From these premises, it was evident, that the pretext
of ignorance was fallacious in the extreme. But to
return to the amendments of their Lordships. He
confessed his astonishment on coming to the House
this day to find, that the other House had totally sub-,
vented and destroyed the meaning, letter, and spirit
of the Act,•by the improper and absurd Amendments
_which the had made. They had very unaccoun;
tably expunied all the allegations on which the Bill
was founded. They bad struck out every condition
which the Act professed. Perhaps the Lords, in the
true spirit of revenge for receiving Bills from the
Commons at the close of the Session, and conse4
quently engrossing somewhat of their time, bad per-
verted the chief meaning and contents of the Act, by
producing amendments with negatives instead of
affirmatives, and affirmatives instead of negatives;
thus attempting to stultify the House—(Hear,),—.
For these reasons, the Right Hon. Member moved—
That the Amendments of the Lords be taken into
consideration this day three months.
Mr. WARREN contended that the amendment in-
troduced by the Lords did not alter any of the enacts
ments of the Bill.
Mr. CANNING expressed his readiness to witha
draw his motion, provided the House would disagree
with the Lords' amendment, and give the Bill ano-
ther chance, by leaving it to their Lordships to decide
whether they would agree to the measure, With the
omission of their own amendment.
After a few words from Mr. J. Statiw, Mr. CAN='
NINO, Mr. S. BOURN; Mr. WAREINN, Mr. WIr;I4N;
and Mr. LUSHINGTON,
Lord JOCELYN expressed his intention of dividing
the House on his motion.
The House then divided.—For agreeing to the
Lords' Amendment, 45 ; for reading the Bill this day
three months, 16; majority in favour of the Bill, 294
MR. °WEN'S PLAN.
Sir WILLIAM DE CRESPIGNY wished that
Parliament, before its separation, had taken into con-
sideration the state of the Poor, for the purpose of
alleviating their distress, if possible. The Session was
now nearly over, and nothing effectual had been
done to promote their welfare, or to alleviate their
sufferings. When he gave notice of his present mo-
tion, he intended to have brought Mr. Owen's Scheme
for the Relief of the Poor tinder the consideration of
IParliament ; but as the Session was drawing so nearly
to a close, he begged to withdraw his notice till next
Session, when he pledged himself to renew it. He
would say nothing now about the practicability or
the advantages of the Plan itself.
Mi. J. W. WARD said, that as the notice had
been withdrawn, and as it would now be informal to
enter into any consideration of the Plan, he would
not have risen, had it not been to protest against the
insertion of his own name and of that of a Right
Honourable Friend of his (Mr. Sturges Bourne) into
the list of the Committee on Mr. Owen's Plan. If
such an honour was cbnferred upon them from any
supposed approbation of the Plan itself, he must de.
elate that he and his Right. Hon. Friend were to.
tally undeserving of it. It was not incumbent 640 a.
to state now his opinion of that Plan, but he hibUnti
hesitation in giving his- opinion concerning the want
of courtesy in placing his name, without consulting
him, and contrary to his wish, in a list intended t 6
further the objects of. that plan. Be regarded the
scheme itself as entirely unworthy of the coaskiera-

tion of the House.
Here the Honourable Gentleman was called to or-
der by Sir WittiAist Dt CanbrlGNY, who thought it
informal that the Honourable Ctatlenian should en-

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