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London, England, 1829-04-06 00:00:00

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.i , dillisZcontented and dangerous. The only Mode in
'.l. -..seeXit is possible to remove disaffection, and by that'
'to put an end to all reasonable apprehension of
.--.. ' danger fom the pe Isle of Ireland, is io esto.e to them
.- the ordinary tights and privileges of British subjects,
4- • wh n-there remains no oiler necessity fir their exclii.
eion, and when, in reality, necessity and expediency
operate die other way. The only choice that remain.
is bemires military force and just laws—there is no
other alternative. His M .jesty's Ministers have chosen
the let er alternative, and have therefore, of course,
wi h the full concurrence of his Majesty, biought this
most wise, magnanimous, and beneficent measure under
the consideration of Parliament. I have a very great
respect and veneration for the Right Reverend Prelates
on the opposite Bench. But what is the danger which
they. aptrithend ? They assume it as a principle, that
it artist be the object of the Roman Catholics, whether
privileged or not, to overthrow the Protestant Church;
and secondly, they assume that if the Roman Ca-
tholics have that object and wish, they will by this
measure be armed with the power td accomplish
that object. The two things most obviously concur to
constitute the danger. Now, I take it for granted, that
the Right Reverend Prelates are true and sincere friends
to civil and religious liberty; but what is the hostility
which -they dread? A Must Reverend Prelate (the
Archbishop of York) most candidly bore testimony to
the viitues of many Roman Catholics with whom he
happen I to be acqesinted, however much he differed
flons.them in religious opinions. Well, then, they are
willing to swear, and by this measure they are called
upon to swear, that they have no hostility to the Pro-
testant Church. Now, it is certainly rather an awkward
kind of argument to say, that a man is most respectable
in private and domestic life, and a very excellent moral
character, and yet that he is not to be believed on his
oath. Why, thee, if you do not believe their assertions
look at their acts. Have the great body of the Catholics,
though eagerly s3liciting t, be restored to' their just
sights and privileges as British subj-cts, done any act
that 'manifests a decided hostility to the Protestant
Church Establishment? But I know no principle by
which ah hone t man who sincerely believes in his ow n
telotiers, is bound to be hostile to the establishment
1 f the religion 'of tooth r. Those who argue in this
manner seem to think that establishment is a prin-
ciple of religion ; but it is no such thing. An esta-
blishment is not a principle of religiose, but merely
wptilitical institution ; and, therefore, it by no means
lisilows, that because a man is a sincere and honest
Catholic, be must necessarily feel disposed to in-'
rade the rights of the Protestant Church Establish.'
meat'. What, then. is the amount of this so much
dreaded danger ? I will venture way, that no intelli-
gent Man would hazard a day's purchase of an estate
on-the apprehension of any such danger. But the Nohls
and' Leaned Lord on the you-bench said, that though
the Protestant Church Establishment was safe now,
when there was a Pr. te.tant King on the throne, these
wards' be no security when the, throne might be occu-
pied by a ra,-U•t, who might yr tend that he was a
Pro.estant. -. Wiry re Ily, my Lords.. I know of no
security which the law afford. against that happening,
even as • matiers •stand—(Hear, hear).'—and I do not,
t'serefore. tin erstand how that danger 'can be either
created or aggravated by the passing Of the present
measure. .1. know of no law at present to gu.rd against
hypocrisy. Fir any thing the law can do, a King may
say that he is a Prote tam, *hen he is i Papist ; the
Mieisters, too may pretend to be Protestants, while. they
are P.p.st- : and so the) may be all hypocrites together.
The i-tit tided Protestant, hit real Popish King. may
thus cadet, around him a *hole Cabinet of hypocrites.—
Ttiey 'is ho oppose the measure.ask whet would become of
• the Prcrie.tant Establishment in Church and State, if
after passing this mea ure, all his Majesty's Ministers
should be Papist.? It is not very likely that all the *-
misters should be' Papist.; but at the same time there
can be no doubt but a conscientious Protestant King
may think that a Catholic of Wept and virtue may he a
better public servant than a Pioiedant who is not dis-
tiagu.shed by these qualities. But they may as well
s •y. ni t only open this • ground of argument, that the
King and the Ministers. but the whole of the two Houses
of Parliament may be Papists and hypocrites, and I know
of no law at present in existence that could prevent this
catastrophe, if they should all take it into their heads to
be hypocrites, and pretend to be Protestants, and then
no doubt the result of all this would be that we must have
the• Pope. But, fisy Lords, all this is purely chimerical.
I will vow only allude to one point snore. It is said by
the opponents of this measure, that if they were satisfied
it sivold. on bring. carried, secure the tranquillity of
I eland, tbry would not resist it any longer. For myself,
1 dwells not that it will secure the tranquillity of I-eland,
boll think it cannot fail in doings-so What are the
reappen for supposieg that it. will? The first question
is, ought it to produce tranquillity ? Ii you are satisfied
that it is a measure of pet feet justice, and that it ought
to setisfy the peep*, you may take it for.gr anted oast it
%sill& so. and I will add •that nothing short of it w. old
produce that effect. As to the security of the measure,
let me tell Noble Lords. that after this Bill is passed,
D the Roman Catholics do any thing with which a tea-
suable man v.ould.not be satisfied, every Protestant in
fte.aud will be arteigned against thins—every Poxes-
taut in England will join to punish them—their pro-
perty e ill be taken away, and Government will no lon-
ger base to act with a divided body, either bete or in
any other part of the empire.
Lord FARNHAM icse amid t very load cries of
question, over which his own voice was distinguished
exclainiing, "1 a iil be heard." The House became
quiet, and his Lordship then stated the grounds on
Which be opposed the Bill. The cries of question were
renewed, auu
The Duke of WELLINGTON lose to reply. My
Lords, although it is trite that we do admit into Pa 111.4.
ROM members of the Roman Catholic pet sti 'aims, yet
at 'the same thew, by anodic, measure brought f.i waist
with it, and on which we equally rely, we propose re-
vitiations which will have the effect of destroying the
n thence of the Catholic Priestho d in the election of
Members of Parliament. We have carefully examined the-
asensuris, and we have ascertained that it is calculated t..
additional done' security to all the Wiesen% of the Starr.
bly Lords, there is another'Ont to which 1 wish to ad
'muss it contains a charge against my colleagues and
myself of inconsistency; that charge has been made by
the Noble and Learned Laid on the cross bench. My
Lot (14, it is tilt .. that I have voted. egaipst this question.
and so have many of my colleagu4; and, my 1,..,4*.!
mast add, that when my colleagues and anus-if deter-'
mined.to adoptifiii measure, we did so with a deter
mination to sacrifice ourselves Aad oar popularity to the,
thity Which we owe to ou• Sovereign and to the country
a laige..-ICheets). We knew very well that if we had
tad'

hate and ;secretion of the cranny. The. Noble Earl no
the Coss bench has alluded partieubitly.to use. and has
mentionnd the services which be is good enough to say
I rendered to the country. I must tell the Noble Karl
that I performed those services under good repute and
under bad repute. and that I was never deterred from
dung my duty because the cry of the country happened
to be against me at the time. Then, my Lords, I have
been accused of mai taking the strictest secresy pending
this transaction. I will tell my Noble Friend that that
becresy was not owing to any want of courtesy on my pail.
I will tell the Noble Lord, in the language of a Right
Honourable Friend of his and mine, that he has thrown
a large paving-stone instead of throwing a pebble.
But, my Lords' I will o further, and say, that in
making this charge the Noble and Learned Lord has
not dealt fairly with me. He knew how the Cabinet
was constituted, and how its feelings were upon the
present question. How, then, I ask. had I a right to
' say a single word to any man upon that measure wind I
had ascertained the feelings and opinions of the first
and most Interested person in the kingdom upon it ? 1
say. my Lords, that before the Noble and Learned Lord
accused me of secresy, of improper secresy, be ought t
have known the day upon which I received the sanc-
tion and approval of the highest person..ge in the
country. My Lords, it is not my intention to detain
your Lordships any further, nor should I have said thus
much, were it not that I was anxious to vindicate my•
self and et:Meseta,: from some unfair and •unfoutided
imputations—(Cheers). •
The Sett of ELDON never Intended to east the slightest impu-
tation tepee the Noble Duke; what he did say was, that it wai his
duty to have informed the country no the subject, and be net
having dont: se the country was taken by surprise.—(Gin art
Spoke, spoke ;" and " Osestion, question !") t!Lord Faugovvot ezplaisset •
The cry of " Divide, divide," die became very central
strangers were removed (rods the Bar, and their Lordships diviiled;
The snubbers were—

Cuntenti, present 147
Proxies
Non-contents, present . 79
Proxies ...... .. .....
Majority in favour of the second •—•—• .
reading of the Bill ... ..... ....... 105
The announcement of this majority was received with Iced aid
repeated cheers.
Ile hill was then read a snood time. and nedered to bit apao•
mitred on Tuesday nest.
The second reading oldie Elective Franchise (Ireland) MN Was
fixed for Monday nest—(thk day.)
The House adjourned at a QUARTS.; PAST RUMOR OTS.OIIt.

rents which have been received dating the,* t year at
duties on Foreign Corn, show a falling of of t 728.182.
from which it too plainly results that there Must have
beep a lanientpble decrease in our Hade within the
last:few moottis; and this state of the C3+4l is not
cheered by any reasonable expectation which can
be entertained of a speedy improvement, for we
regret to find that a complete stagnation of busi
ness exists in every branch of commerce, and we know
that such a stagnation must lead to the diminution of
the futon Revenue under mot of its heads.
The decrease in the Customs in the last Quarter i.
£282,221, and in the Excise £2ol,l2o—that is at she
rate of nearly £2,000,000 a year decrease on 'bow main
branches of the national income.
It is for others to say how such a falling off is in be
met, but we must again urge, as we have on farmer
occasions, some bold and decisive measure with respect
to the outstanding Unfunded Debt, %hick operates
prejudicially in various ways, and prevents the Minis.
ter. from adopting a plain and straightforward cour►e
in F•Dance.

The further issue of Exchequer Bills, to the amount
of 026,223, is to take place towards the present defi-
ciency, makidg the t..tal amouut of what are termed
Deficiency Bills 1:5.671,556.
We have given tbeßeturns in our front Page.
B;o4e111 papers tos•the 4th inst. have been received
containing extracts from tl e Journal di Patent
burgh, relative to operation.' in .the East. The most
gigantic preparations are making bo h by the Russians
and Turks. The Russian army for the joy 15:011 o 1
Turkey a estimated at 250.000 men. The following
are said to be the conditions of Peace proposed by
as,

Is rebid' never can be submitted to

by Tu. key. nor unetion•d by other I'owe s.

I. The forts of the Dardanelles shall be rased.
IL The matrons* of the Sea of blarmoca and the Eosins shall
be free to all nations.

3 Greece shall be recognised u an independent State.
4. The Greek Pau larch at Constantinople shall be mouldered
as a diplomatic character.
'S. the supremacy of the Russian flag in the Black Sea shall be
maples&
6 The Chriulans shall have entire liberty for the exercise of their
religion. Their churches shall have steeples and bells.
7. The Cbthtian and Jewish Communities shall be administered
by Superiors chosen from their own body.
S. The Porte shall pay the Russians a military contribution of
six hundred mildew of silver rubles and Rusdans shall «colic
Vfallachis. Alokiavia, and the Provinces in Asia which it has con
carted, till the whole is paid.
Y. Servia, Wallachia, Moldavia, and Greece, shall be placed
under the protection of Ru•sia."
Ou the fullilment of these conditions Russia guarantees to Turkey
for ever the integrity of ha territory, and its admission into the
associations's( civilised nations.

The Porte, on its part, demandable of all, sit hundred millions
of silver rubles. as an indemnity for the capsules of the war, and
an equal sum for the fleet destroyed at Navarin. It will not atom
Into nestsciadoos till Russia shall have evacuated all the provinces
which it has cooquered, and withdrawn its army beyond the
franker.

It appears by an Account publibha by mkr of
the House of Commons, that the total amount of
advances made by the Bank of England to the Go-
vernmetit, on Exchequer Bills and all other Securities.
including the Dead Weight Annuity, was. on the 28. b
February. £20,525,01n.

Duch and Himburgh Papers to a late date have been
received this morning : their contents are altogether
unimportant. AccnrJing to an article from Cot.stas.
tinople uf the 26th February the SULraw, accompanied
with an immense body, including all persons in the ca•
pital capable of bearing arms, were to quit the camp
at ltimis Tette flick, for the putpoie n 1 proceeding to
Adrianople; and notwithstanding tt e many reports to the
cont•ary, it appears that both Russia and Turkey are
determined to try the result of another campaign.—
The following are est►acts:

BUCHAREST, M•acr 14.

Count Zokuschen, the new President of the Pi incipalities, bas
already done away with many abuses. The Mt tropolitan of Bu-
charest, who publicly expressed his disapprobation of t►e requivr
Lions of provisions, and refuted to alit his signature to the orders
issued on this bead, is banished to Mobil'''. On the other hand,
Theodore Bullock a brigand of the Ant class, who provided for the
delivery of the material fur the erection of two bridges over the
Danube, has received from the Emperor of Russia the Insigais of
the Order of St. Anne. in diamonds.

The Rossini army, sod especially a number of Micas, appears
not to be well. satisiled with the late regulations and appointment..
and many do not hesitate publicly to repress their opinious.-
1 Papers, April 4.
lIAMBURGH, Masco 31.
Fonds are brisk—prigs are dung, and there are buyers at all
the quotations below.
The rise of the French Three per Cents. has occasioned an eager
demand for Danish Three per Carts. which, however, are not
easily to be had.
To-morrow the ant NUM Bonds are expected to appear ln our
marltes ; the engagements already entered into are to date from
the We( April. Them Bowls( are at present eared at 99, iimory.
abundant. Bad if Match.
Anglo Danish Loan 3 per Cast. . 19
Anglo Russian, ditto . . 91
Hamburgh do. • • 54i •
Anglo Prussian Loan of 15111 One
Austrian Bank Share, . • • 1,104
Austrian Nletalliques 97 fi
—llowerrgh Reporter, Merck St.
BUCHAREST, *)Mamas I.
Accading to accounts from Jassy, there seems to he no Ameba
that General Diebitech will, as men u possible, transfer his head-
quartets to the other side of the Danube, and commence the siege
of Bilistria, with which it appears the Rusks* will open the
—so.
CONSTANTINOPLIC. Pea. IN.

11 is now fawned that on tie 15th March (a peculiarly fortunate
day) the Sultan will kayo the camp at Sande Taiga with the
standard et the prophet ; the whole army will be assembled there,
the volunteers and all the inhabitants of she capital able to bear
arras (stated at 150,000 men). and will proceed to Adrianople. One
hundred Tartars have been dispatched within this week to wry
this sews to the provinces. The Sultan is said still to inroad the
recovery of Yarns. His resolution to take the Seld has wade a
favourable impression here, and silenced the murmurs of the
discontented.