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London, England, 1817-06-12 00:00:00

was, that he should a:ree to such an amendment and
oppose the original motion. Did not the disaffected
know at this m mesa who were taken up ? It was
impn,sible 0 'invent the friends and neighbours of
any rnau t.rl spprehended from ku ing the fact as
soon ..s it happened. What start, then, could be
cominunicated to them by exposing the names ? To
his understanding it was impossible that any danger
could arise tom it. He could not believe but what
it was i.i.possibie b. of any inconvenience either to
the persnits in the G refitment. Indeed, he consi-
dered the rn,tion and the amendment to be substan-
tislly the same.
Mr. B BATHURST attributed the motive of the
Noble Lord who made the motion, to be, to accuse
Government of impr per treatment of individuals—
(No. no.)—Then. why object to the amendment,
withheld the names ? In various parts of the
country there might be a connection amongst the dis-
affected, but not such a connection as might cause
&I sons to know who had been taken up at hundreds
ri miles distance Tee giving of the numbers and
ages would prevent 'he knowledge by their partisans
of what par Kolar persons had been apprehended;,
tut the rum s ct.bld be of no other purport than to
forma ground of mputation against Ministers, which
must have the effect of weakening the hands of Go-
vernmen! , whose measures, under present artuns-
Aances, find already obtained the confidence of the
House. and were exerted for the benefit of the whole
((Immunity.
Sir W. BUR ROWS could notconceive what grounds
there could be f‘r refusing the names, which could
not be much longer kept secret. The Calendar of
every Ass e. eisblisited the names of all pees-us in
custiniy. The names would *hew, whether or not
any ass's of tank, character, and property had been
taken i.p, and, no doubt, Would influence the House
as to the propriety us renewing the Habeas Corpus
Susprnainn Act or not. Au the dangers which
witted in 1796 were oust of the question—they were at
prawn' purely domestic. Such measures were better
adopted for ages of barbarians. Was it not the duty
of the House to look at every act of the Government
with siiincion and jealciusy, and was there to be no
anxiety to inquire who the persons were that had
beets thrown into prison, and in what situation they
found themselves ? For his part he saw no danger
at all in granting the mounts, and he could scarcely
persu..de himself oat Gentlemen could be serious in
their objections to it. It was at the utmost import-
once tc have a description of their persons and their
situations in lite, as well as their names, to see it the
return contained any persons of .weight and conse-
quence; bat ii they were all poor. it was too much
to entrust Ministers with such power. As, therefore,
tf e amendment was for the purpose of keeping back
fr .m the House very necessary inforstation,he hoped
it would he negatived.
bud FOLKSTONF., in reply, observed, that his
other Motion went considerably farther; therefore, if
there was any difference in the view be 1)&1 taken of
-.the subject then and now, he wasiinstified in it; best!
he would deny that there was-any difference. He
thought the information he had moved for, and
which the Amendment would throw out, of the ut-
most importance with regard to the renewed suspen-
sion of tbe.tleiseas Corpus Act.llute was awareof
m.schiof Mat SO ANINat w
the Motion; but be was not aware, even after what
he had heard from the Right Honourable Gentle-
man, that there was any mischief lit be apprehended.
The Amendment being substantially the same as the
Motion, it was a sort of smelts' to say, that if the
Motion came from the Right Honourable Gentleman
himself, there would be no miallief at all. The mi..
chief then, it appeared, was from tliegelover, and oft
from the question—(Lar gikr.) How would the
Motion encourage the disaiected ? It would not be
Many weeks befure the Calendar would be published
at the Quarter Sessions in every County Town is
England, and then all the names must be publisited.
It was absurd, when Government was so very vigi.
lant, to say that the House wae.not to know the
names of conspirators taken up. Isit Giber ANNaair&•.
tots should learn them. Then they said thare was
extreme danger in the House belmadeacqpasated
with the situation's in life, trade,. a oecopatras,of,
these people. This was most logietane, for it,(as
had come to his knowledge) they hairnet the Hoses
to stir up conspiracies. nor even* IMMO .40,bigst
pair of shoes, it was fit the Hoag to bps oft.
titer such persons could *gibs
State? No danger had misers imftmly
though such a motion bad bone Dietabowri...l4llol.
again. Ministers talked a gem ern 1111-4
Iponsibility and the hardiest al lit iviiAielina r
Nothing at all. If, with thillll4uissiggesibikt
on their shoulders,
rid of the howbeit
persist in the erigioslllesioe.. •
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