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es he left him (Saxton) at The o!,serrer Office, and went directly
to thestustings., Did rot hear Saxton address tke Meeting;
could ncit,pessillit have avoided hearing him if be had done to.
Witness stayed till the diaper:ion ut'the Meeting.
By the Jeanz.-Saw no dispoeition in the crowd to resist the
military before the dispersion of the Meeting; witness stopped
tilt after Mr. Hunt was arrested; did not see hint resist, or
encourage the crowd to offer any resistanee ; he heard a Mili-
tary Officer say, " You, Chairman, come down this moment ;"
Mr. Hunt's reply was, " Very well, Sir," and 'ae get down off
the. hustings.
Jahn Smith, of Liverpool, examined by Mr. Hunt.—Was
concerned in the' LieevpoJ ..4Aistry. He attended the Meet-
ing of the I ceth to report for that paper : had made no.deposie,
Lion. He described the approach of y:srious bodies to the place
of meeting from different avenues; was struck with their or-
derly conduct ; heard the conversation of persons in the crowd
nu the subject of the Meetine. He said, in answer to a remark
freni him, that 'he supposed they were all friends to Parliamen-
tary Reform; that they were, he said, he tweed, peaceably so;
aed they replied, th..t nothing but peace and freedom did they
sack ' The Meeting increaiecl between twelve and one o'clock;
head a band playing what he supposed tic : the beat of the
d: um to be " God sore the Ein,g." The beat of the drum in
t let tune is very peculiar. The persons nearer than himself
as are uncovered. He asked if the tune was " God save the
first; " was answered " yes," and replied, " I am happy to
ht a • it." He was s:ationcd about twenty-five yards from the
left corner of the hustings, rather in advance; considered the
Meeting to be complete, and thought it the finest sight that he
hsd ever seen, and was gratified at the good,order of the whole.
He heard the speech of Mr. Hunt. lie Or. Hunt) congratu-
lated the Meeting, that the effect of the Meeting previously
celled having been abandoned, was the increasing the numbers
of the present Meeting. He made some remarks on the subject
of a placard which had been issued, which he did not exactly
recollect the bearing of. lie thanked them for having proposed
hien as their Cleat man, and hoped every person would keep the
strictest order; that if any person should be seen attempting to
disturb the peace, let those.who were near him" put him down
and keep him guitt."- Ina short time the Cavalry arrived.—
Witress was aeorished at the .circumstance, as well as his
lllNghbours near him, but the general feeling was, that they
came to keep the peace. The people gave three cheers, which
be felt to be in pursuance of that feeling. The Military return-
ed ths cheers, and there was a pause. Ile expected things
would continue ip that state for some time. The Cavalry ap-
proached the Hustings. lie saw no resistance : it advanced
quicker than he should have thought it could go through so dense
a crowd. A general cry was raised about him of " what is to
be done?" erel the general answer to that was, " they must be
bringing some Magistrate.to listen whether any seditious expres-
sion has been used, and they were sure that all would be quiet."
By the Junere—Sew no attempt to resist, and no encourage-
ment given to resistance by Mr. hunt, or any other person on
the Hustings. Saw no sticks lifted, and no stones thrown but
one, at the close of the dispersion ; had any such occurrences
taken place, feom the situation in which be stood, he was likely
to have seen them. His eyes were diiected towards the Mili-
tary. Up to the moment of the Military reaching the Hustings,
himself and those around him felt no alarm. But on the Mili-
tary surroundirg the Hustings and seizing the Chairman, it was
then thought that the Meeting was to be dispersed. Saw no re •
sistance offered them. The horsemen then diverged in all direc-
tions, and the crowd ,hen dispersed shrieking and weeping.
By Mr. Hunt.—Witness was rather more than six feet high.
Waa enabled to see over the heads of the people what took place.
Saw a great many women and children on the plain; spoke to
several of them ; seemed to be chars and decent women, and
appeared as if they had come to a holiday feast. Saw a great
massy old people, a few beit.g at the head of each company that
came on the gteund ; saw nearly all the parties come up. Saw
elderly people at the head of each company, almost invariably
lee iring sticks, perhaps a dozen at the head of each company;
akr were merely walking sticks which they carried. Those who
Allowed had very rarely any. Did not see the party come up
with the black flag. Saw no body of people marching into the
field with long thick staves, shouldered like muskets. Had such
an extraordinary circumstance occurred, he, as a Reporter, must
have noticed it. The sticks carried, were very properly used to
repress the idle boys that were likely to impede their progress.
Witness remained till there was no person hardly left on the plain.
During the whole time he heard from the multitude no offensive
expressions, and saw no act of violence ; good humour was in
every countenance; saw no alarm expressed in the countenances
df the respectable inhabitants of Manchester, many of whom
(or, at least, persons he supposed to be such) were there. Wit.
Hess arrived in Manchester on the preceding night ; had heard
Wont respectable persons on the Exchange, and elsewhere, that
there would be no interference on the part of the Authorities;
all was likely to go well, and they were very glad to hear It.
By the JUDGE.—Not the slightest apprehensions were ex-
pressed, but all was congratulation on the understanding he had
mentioned. _

By Mr. Hunt.—Did not hear Mr. Hunt say to the people
(pointing to the Military), " There are your enemies; if they
',gooiest you, put them down, and having got them down, keep
them down.' He conceived that it was impossible that any
thing of the kind could be said. The words used by Mr. Hunt,
put him down," &c. were.uttcred before the Military came
on the ground. Must have heard them if they had been said.
"When the Cavalry arrived the people cheered them, but not one,
within his sight and hearing. brandished a cudgel at them, or
hissed, baked, or groaned. The cheering for them was the same
as the cheering on the arrival of Mr. Hunt. Believed he jained
in it, though he did not join in the cheer to Mr. Hunt.
Cross-examined by Mr. SCARLETT.—Was not much in the
habit of complimenting the Military, or of contending with
them. Generzlly looked towards the hustings while at the
Meeting, but frequently looked over the whole Meeting, consi-
dering it to be a very fine sight. Witnes: was the Mr. J. Smith
invited to attend the Meeting. Did not know Major Cart-
wright ; Mr. Wooler he had known since ; did not know Mr.
Carlile; had the h' hour of tic friendship of Dr. Crompton and
Mr. &tattoo; had refused to attend as a speaker; went as a
matter of business for the raper; was in the habit of speaking
on parochial and political matters at Liverpool. Was considered
the Junior Editor of the Mercury, with which he had been con-
nected for ten years from the period of its first establishment.
Spoke at the Wigan Meeting, in 11116. Did not know a person
of the name of Knight; slight be in the habit of taking some
articles from the .ifia,c.4esfer (oserr•r. Was not aware that th.`
.Manchester Paper, advertising the Meeting for the 9th of Au-
g.:A, contained an inflammatory speech made by one of the
parties Wig..n. Did nut recollee- seeing in that Paper an
advertisement for a subscription for Henry hunt, Esq. He
remembered that he Inissed•that, and perhaps two or three
other of the Obserters, being travellir.g at the time. The article
referred to (a speech made by Mr. Knight) did not appear in
the Lir.•,sol ifercura.,. Did approve of the coarse language
Remembered the address of Mr. Hunt on the subject of
the placard, signed by Torn this and Jack that. Did not know
tLat his speech went to recommend the Magistrates to the re-
tFect of the people, or otherwise. had laughed at the gramma-
-1-:al error in one of the placards himself. Mr. Hunt might be
oncupied about ten minutts in speaking and calling silence.—
rid not see any Infantry then. .Mr. Hunt might use the word
enemies." Decidedly, be did Out hear him say, " Your ene
roies are at band; if they molest you, put them down, or keep
them down." Ile (Mr. Hunt) might say, if any one should
molest you, and dipurb the peace, he is an enemy ; put him
down, and keep him down. Was not certain that he bad said so.
When witness said to those near him, " I suppose you are all
friends to Parliamentary Reform, and hope peaceably so ;" he
eapressed this hope. because, from all that be had seen, he felt
jestified in entertair.ing it. He was pleased to see them so or-
. derly, for part of the Press had laboured to make it appear that
they -mere, a tumultuous, savage, and riotous set. Was proud
to see those charges so falsified. It was the best Assembly he
bad ever seen, and the most moderate. Heard nothing of the
drillings-nutting which he had thought entitled to particular
attention. The several bodies as they came on the ground
marched in line (not with a very regular step), and this he
thought the best way of guarding against confusion. He thought
that, seeing various bodies of the lower orders marching with
an appearance of previous combination and organization, would
Save itupired bins rather with confidence than alarm, especially
if be saw among them that good humour, which on the 16th of
Angst iceawd to beam from every countenance. The same
mode of walking in Liverpool, ott Election and other occasions,
veer enagwonly resorted to, to avoid confusion, kicking of shins,
estel o on. trpensehdi. solemn oath, he did not bear en the Ex-
change at Manchester, one euression of slum on the morning
of Ile IGth, but he left itbilato eleven o'clock • had been
invited to attend the Muting ja ioniseaddiviled to Mr.
Thomas 9tritb.
, Re-examined by Dlr. Hunt.—Had heard nothing of previous

training. Exchange at Manchester opens early in the manioc;
is very busy from eight o'cleek to eleies. Had seen thetthi.,
card on the walls at Manchester, with the grainmatical error. Sow
a placard on the I%lenday, advising the inhabitants to keep their
servants and children from the Meeting. Did not recollect that
any name was to it but that of the printer. Could not py whe-
ther the remarks about Tom Long and Jack Short, mat by
' Mr. Hunt, applied to that. Heard nothing from Mr. Hunt, but'
a joke on the grammatical error, and on the placards at all dis-
respectful to the Magistrates. Did not ',puler what be said
to be anything like disrespect. Saw slam! women, boys, and
girls, among the multitude. Many of the *omen were decent
and respectable, and conducted themselves with pmpriety.
Thought this a guarantee for the good order of the Meeting, as
be considered the presence of ladies always chastened the con-
duct of men. They were quite the reverse of what might be
called profligate Amazons. Saw a female on the dickey of the
carriage on Hunt's arrival, carrying a flag; thought she must be
the wife or slaughter of some one in the barouehe, who had con-
sented to carry the flag to the Meeting, as was common on civic
r.nd other occasions.—( A ground:plan V. Peter's:rwld tieing haridcd
to him, witness pointed out the spot en which some y the occurrenc.e4
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had takeviplace. )
James Stott called, said, I live at Pendleton, near Manchester.
and am a Land Surveyor by profession. I have a considerable
propprty in that neighbourhood. On the morning of the 18th of
August, I saw many persons going along towards Manchester,
but I cannot say they were going in parties. My residence is
on the great road to Manchester. There was nothing in their
conduct to produce an alarm in my mind. About one o'clock I
went to the Meeting. lam married, and have six children; of
these five are at school, and the other is an apprentice; I did
not take them with me. Upon reaching the field, the people
were standing together promiscuously in the sval in which
crowds usually stand; there were mer, women, and children
there; nothing in their numbers or behaviour to excite my fears,
either for the safety of the town or my family. I mixed with
them until Mr. Hunt arrived. lie was received with loud
cheers. I saw no persons with staves shouldered as muskets.
I was in front of the hustings, looking towards Windmill-street.
It might be from sixty to eighty yards from the hustings, but I
got nearer afterwards. The pressure of the crowd the). became
great, and I was obliged to retire; I therefore could not hear
what was said distinctly. In the other parts of the field there
was no disposition shewn to riot or disorder. I saw many well-
dressed persons, and amongst others, there were females in the
crowd; they seemed to be inhabitants of Manchester. There''
was no feeling of alarm, and I never beard one of them express',
any apprehensions for their own safety or that of the town. I '
recollect the Yeomanry coming to the field. The people cheered
them in the same way they had Mr. Hunt. 'There was no
groaning, hissing, or brandishing of cudgels againit the soldiers;
it it had happened I could not fail to have seen it. Saw the
soldiers-Charging towardi the hustings; two of them first went
forward, but upon meeting with obstruction they fell back upon'
the others. No advantage, however, was taken of these by the
people, on account of theirbeing separated frdin their comrades.1
It was not until the soldierkaPpeared that Some ferexpressed
their fears. These fears were, that theaoldiers would attack
the people. It did nor, however' induce any one to propose re-
sistance, but some began to move off. The soldiers then cheered,
and the people answered them, which'in some measure restored
confidence. After this the people stood quiet, and the business
of the day, to which their presence had given an interruption,
was resumed.. I thought the soldiers came to' keep the peace.
They galloped towards the hustings. I did not see the arrest of
any one there, but I saw the soldiers going up to them. Thero li
was no resistance made by the people, either by throwing stones
or brickbats. In their preireu the horses galloped upon them,
but they made no resistance.
Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Huzzocc—The hustings
may be about 100 yards from Mr. Buxton's house. I have not
been in the habit of attending Meetingi at Manchester. Was
not at the former one, but was at that of Liverpool. Johnsen
was not with me • I was alone. I did not carry the Address to
Mr. Cobbett; Johnson did not meet me with the Address at
Liverpool ; it was for the purpose of seeing Mr. Cobbett and
dining with him that I went there • I dined with him, but did
not invite him to Manchester; Johnson was then at Liverpool;
this was in November last.

Mr. Hunt objected to this examination, as irrelevant, and it
was dropped.
Re-examined by Mr. Hunt.-,—l bad never seen Mr. Cobbett
before that day.
By the Cover, for Johnson... 4 have often conversed with
Johnson, but never heard him speak ill of the Cioveniment.
John Hampshire again called.—Wu tv the hustings from the
time Mr. Hunt arrived to the time he was arrested. Had never
beard him say to the people, " There are your enemies," point-
ing to the soldiers," put them down, and when they are down,
keep them down." Saw the military arrive, and saw them
charging towards the hustings. His attention was in a particu-
lar manner directed towards them. During the progress of their
charge, no resistance was made.

111rOss-e xamined by Mr. Seaatorr.—There were no papers on
the hustings. Saxton did not carry any. Witness had not heard
any thing of printed Resolutions that morning.
Mr. John Shuttleworth.--Is a merchant at Manchester; re-
eollects the 16th of August, he was standing at the Exchange in
the morning of that day ; saw several parties passing on their
way to St. Peter's-field. They marched with considerable re-
gularity in the form of a procession, but conducted themselves
in an extremely orderly and decorous manner. Many of them
had banners or fags, with different inscriptions upon them.
Some merely stated the districts from which the parties came.
Others were of a political nature. Saw the Lees, Mosley, and
Saddleworth party with the black flag. His attention was first
attracted to this party by the colour of the nag; but it seemed
to conduct itself very peaceably. Could not say what propor-
tion of this party had sticks, but could guess what the average
number might be of the whole body. There might be about
one in ten bearing them. From the circumstance of persons
bringing sticks to former Meetings, be was led to pay a more
than particular attention to it. He meant persons in the pro.
cession : of the others he saw nothing. The sticks were such
as people generally carry when walking. Whilst the Mosley party
walked by, he did not perceive that any of them had long staves
shouldered as soldiers carry their muskets. limy were so armed
he should have observed it. Had no doubt, if one in ten had
them, they could not escape his observation ; there was, how-
ever, a crowd about the black Gag, so that he could not see them
so distinctly. lie saw no disposition on their part to insult the
peaceable inhabitants. There was a considerable number of
other persons, mostly merchants of Manchester; standing by
him at the time, all of whom had the same opportunity of wit-
nessing their conduct. Did not hear a single expression escape
from any one of these indicating alarm, and the only objection
that was taken applied itself to the colour of the flag. ;Witness
went to Peter's-field about a quarter before twelve. He had
not previously seen anything to excite his fates for the gaiety of
the town. There was nothing in the conduct or appearance of
the people to create alarm in the breast of any rational man.
Upon his arrival, the parties were assembled. Witness passed
through a line of Constables, which extended from the house in
which the Magistrates were, and stood about thirty yards from
the house on a rising ground, at the top of Windmill-street. He
was then about half way between the Magistrates' house and
the hustings. Saw several parties at a distance come into the
field. Their conduct was perfectly regular. Witness stood on
an elevated ground, and was, therefore, enabled to command a
view of the whole place. The parties as they came in were
cheered. It seemed as if each upon their arrival had a way
made for them towards the hustings. He remained there until
one o'clock. He then moved to a station in the rear of the
hustings, about fifteen yards distant, and saw Mr. Hunt arrive.
'l'he cheers were loud and longer than usual. Saw him mount.
the hustings, and heard what- he said distinctly. As far as he
could recollect, he began by remarking rpor the necessity of
keeping silence, that those at the extremity of the Meeting might
hear all that was said. Ile was going on in this way when a
trifling disturbance took place in the rear. As this was the only
place where there was any noise, Mr. Hunt turned round, and
said, -that though he wished them to be peaceable ir. their con-
duct, yet he would not compromise the right of an Englishman
to interfere and prevent disturbance. Ile added, that if parties
in that direction persisted in attempting to breed a riot, he
hoped they would assist in putting them and keeping them down.
This was addressed to those near the place the noise proceeded
from. Witness stood near a posse of Special Constables, who
seemed disposed to bear Mr. Hunt. When the noise had in
some measure subsided, they cried out, " Well done, Hunt!"
The next thing he saw were some parties of a Foot Regiment,
who marched fi om Cooper's-street into Dickinson's-street, and
there faced the Meeting. This created some alarm, as their
si.uation was directly opposite the hustings. Mr. Hunt observ-
ing the disorder, said something of its being a trick, and desired
the people to give three cheers, which they did. Mr. Hunt
never said, " These are your eneiniea,pnt them down, and when

they are down, keep them down," pointing to the so'liera. On
(,the &sweaty, he believed no individual tin the hustings could see
Diekinpon's-street. Mr. Hunt's recommendation to the people
to cheer seemed to hini 'to have no other• object than to pet
them into good humours. There was a large party
of Special
Constables near the Windmill public-housetsv Mhich made it quite
easy for any one to approach the hustings. any persons passed
backward and forwaid, and there was nothing to interrupt the
course of communication. He saw no such thing as a phalanx
of men fifteen deep linked together, it*order to cut off commu-
nication with the hustings. Remembers the arrival of the
Cavalry. Before that he saw caching at all to raise any appre-
hensions for the safety of the town. Not one of hi; townsmen,
to whom he had spoken that day, shewed arty alarm on the
subject. The Cavalry, upon, arriving before Mr. Buxton's
house, were cheered at the desire, as he believed, of Mr. Bunt.
They were not hooted or hisser[. Witness could not fail to see
it, if any such thing had happened near him. The people slid
not brandish cudgels at them, or offer them any defiance. N% it-
tress changed his situation to the left flee's of the Yeonsapey,
while: the people were still cheering. The Yeomanry were also
shouting, and brandishieg their swords in the air. This seemed
to excite great agitation, and a great noise followed. Many of
the Special Constables, reaching from Iluxton's house to the
hustings, then fell back, and left another space of about fifty
yards. When this was done, the Cavalry proceeded at a quick
pace, and those in the front entered the crowd at a gallop. They
met with a check, however, from the density of the crowd. The
troops were thrown into confusion by this; some of them were
separated from the rest. They appeared in a circular mass.
The people did nothing to resist them. Witness directed his at-
tentiod towards the Cavalry until they reached the hustings. Ile
saw neither brickbats nor stones thrown at them in their progress.
Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Caoss.—He never knew
Mr. Hunt before that day, but he had heard of him. Reads the
Manchester Observcr occasionally, but dues not recollect heving
seen it before that day. Does not take this Paper in. He had
heard that Mr. Hunt presided at a Meeting in Smithfield some
time before. Ha was also aware that he presided at a Meeting
at Spa-fields; however, he had this only from hearsay, or
through the medium of the Papers. fie had heard that there
was i disturbance at Spa-fields, hut did not therefore fear for
the consequences of that of Manchester, on account of his pre-
siding. Never saw so numerous a Meeting et Manchester be-
fore, or beard that a stranger had been invited to preside at it.
There were many persons in that place capable of speaking and
presiding at a Meeting. Witness was not at the former Meet-
ing ; knows Mr. Smith, the Editor of the Lioeryvol Mercury;
be saw him that morning on the Exchange. home of those
about him were congratulating themselves that no Meeting was
to take place, because the Magistrates said they were.not to be
interfered with. This was the general ferns): on the preceding
evening. He had heard of the drilling of !ensiles of men in the
neighbourhood of Manchester some time before, but felt no
alarm on that account, because he understood the object of the
training was, that the people should come there with more re-
gularity • had never heard of drilling before the Meeting was
announced ; does not recollect a paragraph in the Manchester
observer, calling on the people to keep notes of all acts of violence
which would he offered that they might afterward; be given in
evidence. Before the Meeting there were ho circumstances pe-
culiarly calculated to raise alarm in his mind about the public
safety; if there were any apprehensions they were created by
the threats of persons presumed to be in the confidence of his
Majesty's Ministers, and not from the people. To this may be
added, the rumour then generally prevah nt, of the swords of
the Cavalry having been sharpened. Of this latter circumstance,
however, he had no other knowledge than through the public
Papers. He had never herd of confederacies amongst the Re-
formers; he did not understand what was meant by the ques-
tion. The only association of which he knew was the Reform
Union. Upon their coming into the town there was no alarm
felt; an the contrary, the people seemed pleased. He knew
nothing of a Meeting of the respectable inhabitants at a Police-
office. Could not tav tett many of them were present on the
Exchange ; he thought the aver age there might be front one to
ten. There was nothing remarkable in their gait; it was a
lounging gait, such as a party of people would walk in going to
church. This remark applied to all but the Rochdale
The Magistrates had ase mbleil at Mr. Buxton's house that
morning, but he was not there. Ile never was at Buxton's
house in his life. He is a Member of the. Manchester Com-
mittee for the Relief of the Sufferers. As the bodies came up
from the country, they assembled about the hustings. Does not.
recollect hearing Mr. Hunt use the word " enemies," as applied
to the soldiers.

Re-examined by Mr. Hunt.—By the sufferers he meant all
that were injured,, as well Special Constables as others, by the
forcible dispersion of the Meeting on the 16th of August. It
was to the Committee for this purpose he belonged, and it was
from motives of humanity, not politics, that he was induced to
join it. He had heard of training going on, and yet felt no alarm
from that circumstance. The reasorrbf this was, that he knew
the training was °sly to brine the people together in a more or-
derly manner.
Mr. Scaar.arr.—My Lord, I must object to the witness giving
his reasons. He. could not have any knowledge of what the
motives of the training were.
Mr. Justice BArtzr.—l think the explanation arises naturally
enough out of the cross-examination.

MT. Scaittsrr.—My Lord, I must insist that the question is
irrelevant.
Mr. Justice Rainer (rearnay).—l have already given my
opinion.
Mr. SCAILLXIT.—My
Me. Justice Bs:inv.—Mr. Scarlett, I wish you could change
places with me !
Mr. Hunt.—God forbid, my Lord!
The examination was then resumed.—He had heard of a for-
mer Meeting, but it was peaceable. Recollects a Meeting called
by the Boroughreeve and Constables to congratulate the Prince
Regent on a former occasion. This comprehended the neigh-
bourhood as well as the town. Witness himself was present
at it. There was a great multitude assembled. At first
it was adjourned, and the people then broke sonic windows;
because, after they had been brought together, they were
not allowed to discuss tht question about which they had as-
sembled. On this occasion the people came in from the neigh-
bouring towns. Believes there were 50,000 assembled then in
a more incirvenient part of the town. They were called to-
gether by writing, and by the municipal officers. There were
also large processions of the people on occasion of the Proclama-
tion► of Peace. Witness joined them, and many other respect-
able persons were with them. They walked in files, three or
four abreast. Believed the shop windows were shut up in St.
Anne's-square, which was the largest area in the town ; he also
believed that there were more shut up than on the 16th, for that
was a town holiday.
By the COl:lL—There were women ar.l childr►n in con-
siderable numbers with all the parties; there were a great many
in St. Peter's-field.

Mr. John Tyas called.—l am a Reporter to the- Times News-
paper; I attended the Meeting of the 16th of August ; I came
to Manchester on the Friday before the 9th; I went as a Re-
porter, to give an account of the Meeting. -On the 16th we
met in a loom in the New Bailey. I have relations in Man-
chester. I believe I only sent one report of the proceedings to
London. I wrote a report that appeared in the Titres, which
was headed, " Another Bounce of the Orator's." I want to
St. Peter's-field' so rally as eight o'clock in the morning, and
was particular iu my observations during the whole of tin' day.
When I went at eight there were but few people cn the field ;
about ten there were :?.50 persons present. I have not given
any depositions to your attorney ; I refused to be examined by
him or any other persii. I saw the different parties arrive with
music and flags; they walked as I saw the Electors of York
walk on Tuesday, with something of a military step. If I had
not hoard of this important trial, it would not make the least
impression upon me.. I have the notes I took, on the ground,
and alto those I wrote in the New Bailey. (Hereavitness looked
over his notes). About half-past eleven, the first body of Re-
fortners arrived on the ground, with two banners, each sur-
mounted by a cap of liberty; they marched into the Middle of
the field, and a cart was brought to them. I saw other parties
arrive ; they behaved in the most orderly manner. I do not
conceive they took up their position in a military forni. ' I saw
nothing peculiar in their manner after they came upon the field.
Perhaps they were more- orderly than any other Meeting I had
seen. I saw the party with the black flag arrive. It was the
Saddlevrorth and Mosley Union; they came with music, and a
sort of step. I recollect when they arrived abort the busting'',
they played Soft, Britannia and Gnct ieee the Eby. I do not
mean to say that they alone played ; each party played it as they
arrived. I think they also-played, See, Mt:conquering ~?ceo ceeef...
Some in each division had common walking-sticks. 1 certainly
did not see any with lotr, staves, shouldered like muskets, sod
to/ atteotion being called to this subject from the C0t0:,..r having
stated that the patty csevrting ituut on the OL'a, tarred

Ilong staves fit to be used at pike bandies," I must have noti
them had they been there. 1 s iv+ not the slightest matter wtee
could excite alarm in my breast for the safety of the town. ;
saw nothing in their conduct tending to riot or confusion; I let
several conversations with persons in the Reform parties. Tie! I
said all they wanted teas a restoration of their tights, and the
they were desirous, abinktiverythieg .elleecto preserve • orde
and tranquillity. I felt it my duty to aseettain whether the re.
ports I hears were true or not. I sacs no acts of insult or vitt
lence in any-way. • There sec re many women .end children-os
the field, and many of them came :u in the same order as tie
men. I 52W two parks whore tae women were at Ole head et
the procession. They all appeared to be drest in their best
clothes. If I, as a Reporter, had seen or beard anything likely
to create alarm, I should, as .an Englishman, Live felt it my
duty to acquaint the authorities with it. I left the ground for
the purpose of going to meet you. I saw you surroanded by a
crowd, near the Exchange; the people were huexaine. I ae.
plied to you to procure me a place on the hustings, whiah yea
sparioami,
ths eadt tboe
idnog,aanrcl,cptoolrdter7yotou kNlee,oipildnegairiethmeecearriva. Yu,atgeint
carriage. I held by the door, and walked close by the carrieee
it stopped at the Star Inn, and the people hissed. Ido as
know whether the carriage anointed by assealetit or by design._
You did not take the command, or direct the pebete to left
you did not get up in the carriage, nor slid you hiss ; had ycu
done either I must have seen you. There was also some hist,
ing at the end of the street in which the Police-oMee
You took no part in it. :icon after this you called to Mr.
Moorhouse, who veal on the opposite side of the street, and he
got into the carriage at your invitation. On arriving on the
field the bard played See, tree air:quo-iv Hero curses YOO
were received by the loudest cheering I ever heard in my life.
You " bore your blushing heneurs' meekly. There was a
black flag at the end of the hustiegs, and you said it w..s very
foolish, or words to that effect. I recollect your coraplairing
that the hustings were erected in such a mincer that yeu had
to speak againSt the wind. I followed you upon the hustingr,
as did several other persors, =one whom were several remake.
I think they were taken up in colisequance of the pressure.
I observed the banners in the middle of the crowd, and re-
ticed several wonien amongst the men. The crowd itself was
more dente and crammed together that, any I had ever seen.
The people kept cheering. Johnsen ircpoited that you shr.:ld
be the chairman. There was no whit try appearance in the
crowd. I could not perceive whether the people near the hest-
foga had their arms locked or not, though Itwas immediate:y
over them. I saw nothing to ketp'the people from she Last-
lugs; they were pressing so el. se that you expressed your fea:s
that they would upset it ; Ihe ard cemplitin 01 this. Had
those close to the hustings had their turns locked, I must
seen them. The crowd stood as eicsvds generally du. I cars
not say that the first row had their hats off. It is usual forties
crowd to take their hats off w hen the hero of the day arrives. I
saw nothing of a warlike appearance about the aleeting.--LHers
witness read from his.notes the account, of the Mceuag which
he had sent to The Ti.nes. J—When the military appear is, a cert.
siderable alarm was merniested in the outskirts of the aiertirg.
The Cavalry came up at a smart trot, halted before Be: -
toe's and flourished their swords over their heads. 111 r. Hunt
and Mr. Johnson desired the crowd to give three cheers. This,
I conceive, was to shine the military that the Meeting were not
to be daunted in the discharge of their duty from their unwel-
come presence. Three cheers were given. Mr. 1-funt told the
people that this was a mere trick to interrupt the proceedings of
the Meeting, but he trusted they would all stand firm. Ile had
scarcely said these words when the Manchester Yeomanry Ca-
valry rode into the mob, which gave way before them in the most
peaceable manner. and directed their course to the hustings. They
arrived there, and took the several individuals into custody.
I recollect an officer C4Me up to ycu with his sword in I:is
hand and told you to stinamder ; that he must arrest you.—
You said you would not surrender to a Military Officer, but if
any Peace Officer came up, you would go with him. No Prate
Officer had presented himself to the hustings before that. Na•
din (as I was afterwards told) them came up. He appeared to
me to come from under the waygon. Ile arrested you, sayinr.
he had information upon nth against you. You immediately
surreudered, flrsr desiring the people to be quiet. On the ap-
proach of the Ye,ornaury; the people used no resistance; they got
cut of the way at fait as tfiey could. My attention w..s oireced
to the Yeomanry front the time they left Mr. Buxton's, till they
reached the hustings. In their progress to the hustings, I saw
no Stones, brickbat% or bludgeons horled at them. I cannot say
whether yoU turned pale. as my back was to you. You cer-
tainly did not urge any one to any acts of resistance. If stones.,
brickbats, otbludgeons were hurled at the military in aoy grew=
quantity, I must have seen theme but I saw no such thing.- DO
not recollect having seen any' foot soldiers before the Yrentanry
Cavalry-came upon the ground. If any military had appeared,
and that you, pointing to them, said to the people, "there are
your enemies; if they molest you, put them uown al:d keep,
them down," I must have heard of it ; butt heard no suck
thing; I swear positively that nothing of the kind was said.—
The cheers of the crowd to the Cavalry were of the seine kind,
but, if possible, louder than those on your approach. I heard no
hissing, hooting, or groaning; the cheers would prevent that
from being heard by me, if there had been any. The crowd
slid not advance to the military, brandishing ;heir cudgels; on
the contrary, they retreated. Had there hren any such thing £
must have seen it. I saw some Special Constables bearing the
people with their staves. The staves were held up. This WU
after the military had come up to the beatings. The Constables
were in the rear. The Constables were beating those who were
round there. Had the people, when the military arrived, ie.
stead of cheering, hissed, hooted, groaned, and bramashed their
cudgels at them, I mutt have seen it; but I saw no such thing.
If there had been a general lesistatce to the Yeoniaery on the
part of the people, I must have seen it; but I did not are any
attempt at resistance.
Examined by Mr. Beeetow.—l am the son of the late Mr.
Tyas, a very eminent Pro-tor in this city. I know of Moor-
house getting into the carriage. I recolteet his hand having
been hurt by the carriage door. Ido not know whether he got
upon the hustings.
Cross-examined by Mr. Seam-tn.—As the Cavalry advanced
the people made way. As the Yeomanry advanced the Con-
stables appeared to be striking the people between the Cavalry
and them. From the time the Cavalry appeared to the period
of Mr. Hunt's, arrest, did not exceed six or seven minutes.—
Feelmg myself in danger, I placed myself under the protection
of a Constable. I was taken to the New Bailey. I saw no
brickbats or stones flying at any time.—[ Witness here described
the inscriptions upon the different flags, as we have already
given them.]—The iloyton Female Reformers had a Sag, on
which were the words--" Let us die like men, and not he
sold like slaves," on one side, and on the other side, " An-
nual Parliaments and Universal Suffrage." Mr. Hunt said
ht would invite me in, were it not that the carriage was
full; but he afterwards took up Mr. Moorhouse. I saw Mr.
CarOe in the carriage. I did not theu know Mr. Carll:e, but I
have seen him since. I think 'Knight was also in the carriage.
I do not recollect pa:sing two military officers after we passed
the Star Inn. There was every syamton of popular disappro-
bation shown both before the Star and the Police-office. I
knew that the Star was the place where the Magistrates had
their head-quarters. 'Pee cheering was loud when the Cavalry
came. It seemed to me to say, " We are cane here for a
specific purpose, and you shall not frighten us." It was not a
cheer as if to say, "If you attack us, we will resist." If that
be a cheer of d: fiance, then it was not a cheer of defiance in
that- sense, but it was in. another.- That is, it seemed to say,
" We are here in the execution of a legal purpose, and you shall
not prevent us from executing it." 1 think there were about
80,4)00 per-eons present. Malty of the persons in the different
divisions had walkingesticks. I did not take particular notice
of the Stockport division. 1 knew nothing of the Niceties but
what I learned by public advertiseteent.

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Be-eicatnined by Mr. llunt.—l wrdte.part of my report of
the .Meeting in the New Bailey, and part in London when I
got to :own. A pan of what 1 had written being stale when I
got to town, was struck out, and some ohs ..-vations reflecting
very strcasly on the conchict of the Yeomanry, were suiteuesl
down.,- I saw na such thing as a !lag with a bloody dagger
painted upon it. When the military appea:ed, there was a dn.
position shewn in one part of the crowd to run away, and your
cheer was recommended by you on that account. I heard yea
say to some one near yen, " The people are running away—ht
us give three cheers to re-assure them." As far as I could dis-
cover, there was not the slightest attack made by tha people. It
diet not strike me that the people fell in behind the military to
cut off their retreat, but to avoid the pressure they eudured uy
Being driven on each ; when the military had r.tssed they
well pressed t..k to their former places. They made a sort of
rush, as if driven by the pressure. I did .rint chserve the gene-
ral flight of the people until alter the Yeomanry commencesi
et::ing at the flags and the 1(1;4.... I was s.: ark at wLilc o::
the ',,tustingstwics: when the Yeomanry came up, and I made ro