Star.
London, England, 1820-05-13 00:00:00

StAGE•OOACII

rpon the motion of Mr. M. A. TAYLOR, thizi Bill was
re.iel a second time, and committed, pea forma, in crdelh to
enable him to make sonic alter.nions.-

Th.- [louse resumed, the Report was brought up. and ordered
bc Liken into further cunsid,ration cn Alunday.

CIVIL LIST bILL.

On the order of the day for the second reading of this Bill,
Sir ROBERT HERON thought it necessary to press on the
constderation of the Home the distressed state of the country,
which, hr tin-tight, did not suflielently weigh with those who
vr re introducing the Civil List, founded on the highest scale
that could be propo,etl, when we were at the greatest height of
prosperity. Ile was afraid the ominous mention of the word
" economy," in the Speech from the Tianne, was oaf) lot the
purpose of dispensing with it in practice.
The Bill was alien al.nwid to be read a second time, and or-
dered to be committed on 'Aftelii.y.
Mr. II U .11E opposed the lir w settlement of the Civil List,
because the House was called upon to decide, without informa-
tion. relative to the expenditure between 1815 anti 18e0. Also
on account of the complexity of the Rill, which, in his opinion,
ought to have shewn what went to the King, and to have sirn-
pl.fied the Statutes relative to :lie Civil List. Ile thought that
5e:450,000 per amonn would support the Royal Household, if
unmixed with other matter, which Ministers, he believed to
mystify the country, combined wish that charge. He meant
this, esclu.ive of a:::,ther expense of considerable importance, as
every man's wife W.. 4 an impuetant personage in his household,
and yet, on the present occasion, that item was omitted. Al-
though it had been agreed to debate the question on the Report, ,
the Honourable Gentleman continued to state his arguments I
upon various points. 'The Right lion. the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer had toiti them, that the surillus of any branch in the Civil
1.,: was epplied to cover deficiencies in other branches. Ih.t
the third class, on which the charge was £226,000, was regu-
iced by two Acts (Mr. Burke's and Mr. Ilankcs' Acts, to the
effect th it no Ambussadot s should be pensioned to the amours, of
X40)0, who were not 55 year of :rge, or had served ten years.
—lt wa, also enacted, that any W.:lplus on this elms shoo:el be
paid to the Cons :lidated Fund. llcw could they know that
these provi-inns were observed, when the information as to who
the Ambassadors were was refused them? Ile farther accused
Nimsters ot concealment, and, adveitieg to some ot the items
Inc plate to Public Functionaries in the Report of 1815, revived
the charge ofextravi‘3llll3:in this partici:Lir. There was a charge
lon plate which he slid rot understand. What was it that en-
tided Lord Jocelyn, Lord Yarmouth, the Marqu:s of Winches-
ter, or Mr. Canning, to services of plate?—(" limes rfrints
a .me One en Ike Jliazgeria! Becss, were they ? He per-
ceived some of them cost upwards of A3OOO. Thipiece for Mr.
Canning was charged £5150! Many ether items were highly
ohjectionable. That Ilouse was treated as never I louse had been
t.-ated before. lie was one who deprecated, he was one who
dreaded, secrecy and sclusion. lie mould not cease to think
that things were not all 'Oa till a fair anti manly avowal ut all
should be made to that house.
The CHAN Cha, LOR ut the XXXII EWER Said, the sur-
plus of the third class had regularly been carried to the (7onso-
lilated Fund. and the rrcounts ot th.; Cutbolidated Fund
fornib• accounted for every such surplus. To that fund he re-
terra the lion. Gentleman for an account of this pact of the
Civil List. Plate was usually given whirr official situations re-
quired greater display and splendour that, the salary could af-
lord. In gerieral, presents of this kind were very moderate, and
below the amount which the station of those to whom they were
made might seem to require. Since 181(:, services of plate were
given to all Ambassadors who went abroad to foreign Courts,
in older to enable them to support the dignity and_ splendour of
r •presentatives of the Sovereign..
It Was then agreed that the Bill should be committed on
Monday next.