Star.
London, England, 1820-07-29 00:00:00

TILE QUEEN.

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The following is her Maserry's Answer to the
Address room the Female Inhabitants of Nottingham:
ItsheOld be deficient in sensibility if / had not left the
warmest gratitude, and more-than ordinary delights Warn I re-,
calved from the Female Inhabitants of the town of Nottingham
and Its vicinity, an Address, which I. remarkable for the ami-
able spirit which it breathes, and for the fervour of attachment
to my person and rigbts which it displays. lam proud of-being
the Queen of *omen of sock generous sentiments; and Ilin
happy to remark, that such sentiments indicate an increased add'
inavosing cultivatinn of the female mind.
" To be conscious that the hearts of so large a portion et my
own sex are vibrating frith ethotlons of affection for Ms Ma-
*lfs &IQ Comical, that they are sympathising with her sor-
rows, and deprecating her wrongs, and that her happiness is the
object of thelepliss tOpplications, cannot but awaken in my
breast the most pleasurable sensations. The sable spirit of de-
votedness to the fair fame, to the lawful rights, and to the gene-
ral interests of a persecuted Queen, which animates the female
jahabitants of Nottingham, is, I trust, diffused through a Large
majority of their countrywomen. They will consider.the honour
of her Majesty as reflected upon themselves—they wilt best
know how totbppreciate the vexation by which I have been
?aniseed, the ganders by which I have bag assailed, and the
sidigaidev by which I have been oppressed.
" With the most gentle delicacy, the Female labablinatts etU
the Town of Nottingham and its vicinity, have toadied those
springs of grief lu my heart which will ever continue painfully
to vibrate at the recollection of the near and dear trlatives of
whom I have been bereaved, *and isartienlarly of that departed
Saint in whose talents, and whose virtues, the women have lost
a model of the most estimable ncellettee. and the Nation in ge-
rml a ftiture Sovereign, under whosefostering care that liberty
*maid have flourished which gives happiness to the People and
security to the Throne."

. • Lord DVSCASSON ou Thursday waited on her
MAJESTY, with an Address from the Town of Wake-
field and its "vicinity, to- which her IWAsawry was
pleased to retain the following most gracioosAnswer:
" I reoeive with heartfelt satisfaction tats loyal and Wee-
6tionate Address from his Majesty's subjects, inhabitants of the
tomPti of Wakefield and its vicinity. Their sentiments of con.
gratulation on my accession to the high dignity of Queen of these
realms, are a proof that their minds have not been unduly in.
iluenced by the ilagitiosts calumnies of my persecutors; and I am
at the Ante time feelingly alive to their expressions of kind con-
' dolence upon the melancholy losses of those near and dear rein-
,dives which I experienced while upon the Continent.
" I am sensible of the Indignities with "Alas I have been as.
sailed, not go much because they are disrespectful to myself, as
because they are insulting to the nation—for the nation has been
insulted in the late outrages upon the character of its lawful
Queen. Though lam attacked with that malice that hesitates
at no falsehoods, and by an assumption of power which seems to
spurn all limitation, I feel a cheering conSdence at present of
support, and of remittal triumph, in the affections of the people.
" I have been accused of appealing to popular clamour; but
I appeal to nothing but to the good sense and good feeling—to
the reason, the morality, and the patriotism of the most en•
tightened and most respectable portion of the community. If I
am condemned without *dee, and" deeltwased @gaunt all law,
the liberties of every individual will receive a fuel stab; and
the character of the highest Judicature will be blasted to the
latest posterity.
" My own personal welfare is at tittle niessant, but I do feel
as a cilean far the raliketOilfses, which is deeply implicated:in
the shunpike of mylialmod dens.
" The .power whki the Hoeft of. Lords are assuming, fir
their &1t of Pains and Phoaltles, not only oTdivordng his Ma-
jesty's Royal Consort, but of dethroning their Wefts! Queen,
may prove in the reaulx productive of an aged misery in the
nation.. The child that is nos/ at the breast may live to rue its
consequences.
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of rectitude, of which no BM of Pains
can ever deprive me, wiD support me through all
trials ; and even though the forceof my enemies should in the
end prove commensurate with their malignity, the people shall
clever have occasion to reproach me with neglecting their hap-
piness, with betraying their rights, or with relinquishing for one
moment the patriotic magnanimity of the Queen."

THE MILAN COMMISSION.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIME

Sta—lt appeal* by the result of Lord Easztzrz's
Motion, on Friday, the 14th'instant, that Ministers
still adhere to precedent, while it is in their favour,'
howevet•ready they are to depatt from it when it is
against thkpi.
If it be ratio% that in trooblesonse times great men make pre-
- eedents, and little men follow.thens, in what class ate we toplace
Ministers who?do.botb ?
To solve tbis problem, let us SYJIMiIIe Them for a moment in
their double character of precedent-makers and precedent4ol-
- and see bow. far their argument, which is thiaame in
both cases, namely, substantial justice, bears them out.' •
The Milan Commission is adreitted to he without precedent
let us then see how far the professed wish of Ministers, subsea's.
thi justice, is likely to bit obtained thereby in the Queen's case;
for favour or Indulgence to her sex, or rank, or unprotected si-
tuation, is quite out of the question, since it has been roundly
declared In the Lords that no difference ought to be made be-
tweet' her Majesty and the meanest subject.
Be it so then, and let us try the sipcerity of Ministers by
their own touchstone, end see whedser with re to substan-
tial justice, Ministers 'have in fact made say between
her Majesty and the meanest subject by the course they have
already adopted.
In the first place, in the case of Meanest subject, this as.
lan Commission could never have issued.

We all know that a Commission to examine witnesses abroad
can only issue from a Court of competent jurisdiction to try the
question between the parties.
Was this the Queen's case ? Or who issued the Commission,
or minted the Commissioner, if not the prosecutor or accuser
himself ?
Again, in a legal Commission there moat be a question already
pending before the Court, and the party prayinf the Commission
must have made oat a prima facie case, and joined issue on it
with the opposite party previously to this application.
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Was this the• queen's case ?

Legal notice is again given to the opposite party,of this appli-
cation, and he is required to join in naming the foreign Com-
missioners, and entitled to have an equal number of his own
choice inserted in the list, in order to protect him in the exa-
mination of the foreign witnesses, and the taking of their

depositions. - -
Was this the Queen's case 1'
When the Commission I; returned with the depositions sealed
up to the Cant from whence is issued, no copinsare out
of the depositions to one party and withheld from the other; but
the effect of the order fur pubis publication-is to make. both
parties equal in this respect.
• Was this the Queens talc?
So much then (omitting other points) for the substantial jus-
tice of the Ministers towards the Queen in their departure from
precedent, la their character of precedent-makers. Now, let
us shortly see whether she is more likely to obtain substantial
justice by their sticking to precedent in their other character of
precedent-followers, or precedent-hunters, and their refusal to
deviate from it in the slightest degree when the letter of the law
is in their favour. , •
On Friday, the 11th instant, Ministers refused the Queen that
list of wirelesses, so which, under the equity of the statute of
Willtun 111. as applied to her cafe, she was clearly tinkled,

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by MOND thetelieles not been, and could not be, teciudeally,
guilty el Mishits:urn; and therefore, as they cannot legally
est off her !mil, they will sot safer her to defend, by the as-
aistance of this MUM, *hilt prist be much dearer to her, mid
every high-minded wontan-felfer honour, her reputation, and
her Crown., and they very coolly introduce a Bill to deprive
her of all these, in the shape, of a EU of Pains and Penalties, as
, a less punlaidaent, and thereby deprive her of the benefit of this
Act. But can any honourable or high-minded woman consider
It fora ineenent in this light? Is the character of the Queen or
her Thaw of less consequence to us, or to her, than her head?
And would she not, as I am persuaded she vrtrald, with the
country, prefer the trial for High Treason, with the additional
security which its peculiar laws afford to justice, to the present
anomalous mode of proceeding, by which she must be tried
twine, and convicted, before she can enter upon her defence?
The object, I conceive, of the statute of William, in giving
the list .of witnesses, and, in fact, the precaution observed in
all the statutes of Treason, seems to be this--that as Treason is
the highest crime known to the law, and the prosecutor is ge-
nerally the most formidable per.o.t in the country, that out iff
tenderness to the party accused, these iules were adopted, and
to prevent the subornation of witnesses no the part of the Crown,
*hick the lave has cleniy cc.nternplaa d, it 144. ds the party the
knowledge of them before trial by this statute.
If the charges against the Qteen, and the course adopted at
proceeding by a lift: of Pains .se_d Penalties Instead of Impeach-
ment, do ant bring her technically within the protection of the
statue of Wiltiaxn, they at least bring her morallyvrithin it, as
to the effect of a Bill of Pains and Penalties; or iso very near it,
that, in favour of substantial-justice, one would thieilereAt Owe
whO could make so great a stride to Mike, might very wetly
stretch their coneeleoces to make a precede* in this date's
they cannot find one. •
But the effect of refusing the Queen the IR/hatwitnesies Will,
on a very slight consideration, be seen to be attended with a
manifest hardship to her, if not injustice.
In the first place, it is nothing to say that she will be entitled
to a delay after the examinations In chief have been taken
against her, to produce witnesses to support her cross-examina-
tion, and to impeach the witnesses on the part of the accuser.
not let me ask, is it substantial justice to examine these persons
in chief against her, and deny her the memos of -objecting to
their cuineetency or credibility upon a hair dire, and perhaps
prevent their evidence ping to the Jury, which she might other--
Wise have been ehabled to do, had Let Erskine's motion been
adopted ?
Is it, again, substantial jastice that, after the Jury haaheard
all the eridenee against hersand In chief, that they shOtdd dis-
perse themselves all over the eountry,for perhaps six weeks or
two months before the Queen can collect her Witness*, hitli
the impression of this evidence against her rankling In their
minds ? And how many weopfe are there besides a Chancellor or
a Judge, who can reduce themselves to such abstract beings as
to feel no unfavourable impressions from evidence given at such
an interval from the reply and defence? h is nothing to say
that the depositions taken on the Contiuent cannot be read on
the trial, inn the witnesses must be examined de limo and twit
voce; and cross-examined, when the cross-examination in the
Queen's cue cannot follow, as It does in ordinary cafes close
upon the heels of the other, and before the party leaves thebox,
In her case *hat is to become of the witnesses during the inter
val betWern their examination and cross-examination? Suppose
a material one dies in the meantime, and before the Queen can
prove him guilty of perjury: " Is this substantial justice?
The very taking of the depositions in ItalY,and piying the
witnesses for their attendance, Was. a Cruel measure ; for it plantthe Queen in dds dilemma—tint; whether true or false, the
whams*, to preserve their own eansistency, most repeat the Mae
evidence on the trkl. If true, it is natural they should do so 6
if false, they Must, by olsebe of their engagement : so that the
only clumee, of detect* them by a mooi.eratnination or pro-
dilation of other witneites at the theta, aid to affect their-come
peessey or eery, blest to the Qtteeti by the rejection of
the motion ea 'filreby last.
I have observed, Mr. Edlfilr,in the course of my employment •
in a foreign Court of Justice, a pristine which prevailed, of
parties who were going to trW procurini from their friends or
witnesses, private certificates of the facts in cpsestion," given no*
der tender of oath, but which oath was not always required by
the Court. However, I never knew an instance When the *Mb
was called for of the party effusing to make it, or • i
, substance from hit certificate; indeed, by his certificate he
precluded himself, which is the miechief, as the witnesses %ain't
the Queen have by their depositions. .
But it seems that great fault has been found with the Stand*
of William, as affording too much facility of defence to the at*
cused, and imposing a hardship on the prosecutor ht ditelltearise
any witness on his part not included in the list. The Wow else
jection was very properly removed by the wording of Lord
grskine's motion, by which fresh eyidenee was to be Awed in
this case; but It is redact a curious Coincidence, that even in itt
Italian Court of Justice, without any reference to the Statute of
William,-or the crime of treason, the party focused is, in every
criminal case, entitled,.. eight days before trial, to a list at the
Witnesses, and CopieSof the papers or proofs. The words of the
clams are as follows :
" Tufo dee Calmat° public* owe reccutte is pens . prepaid* g
sue atto di accuse la cansegnera al registratore dd transude in flo
mitt*, e finned° cis hsi, e t& jars intimate ado pork mensalls, ens-
segnandok cantentin,runeamente unit copier custodial' the sasessiem
insieme coil una lista de nasal de testimani, e I e lord legali dexri-
dad nose mess° the di era document* e minors. New sane reik_
memo pero di csaminare venue teaktoutia, it di esti swine stew sip
mato connoted° ache sudden° lista, sent° il ',ensign° speckle della
ante, e sotto guile tale condisismi cat' essa °arra imparre, ere Si pa-
sses ware alms document° e scrittura, cite ,seen pane stab 'Wilma.
street's-sato come wpm."
As Lord Lauderdale recommended, on Monday last, the
study of the Italian language to the Lords, for the purpose of
enabling them to do justice to his heather, it Would be as well
perhaps for. their Lordships to commence with the study of the
above passage, in ot der to enable them to do justice to rise
Queen: however, for the benefit of young beginners, I shall
Subjoin a translation :
1, As soon as the Attorney- Cei.eral has received the piano
and framed the indictment, he shall send a copy to the Regis.
trans of the Court, signed by him, and serve a legal notice of it
on the party accused, with an authentic copy, together with a
list of the names of the witnesses and their legal description, as
well as of every document or written proof, or evidence; and
he shall not be allowed tceexamine any witness whose name is
not Inserted in the said list without the special permission of the
Court, and under such conditions as it shall think proper to im-
pose, or to produce at the trial any document or written evi,.
dente of which entice has not been duly served on the party
accused, as abovementioned."
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If there be any truth id the objection to furnishing the Quetta
trlth the names of the witnesses and their legal description, frnra
Ise circumstance of the difficulty, then this objection goes to de-
stroy the depositions themselves, toe they are good for nothing is
kw tulle=s they are perfectly clear and precise in this respect. .
To illustrate this, I will give th: following example, which is
the usual judicial farm throughout the Cantinas/
Ist Intl rrogatory. iThat ir your name ?
Yd. What is yobr age?
3d. Where were you born?
4th. What Religion do y.sts profess?
• sth. What is your profession?
611. Where do you reside ?
If the depositions ,sf the witnesses against the Queud have not
been taken id this way, it is clear that fslini4ters cannot furnish
the Queen with such a Its: and description of the witnesses as she
Is by law entitled to; and their doficulty is sincere; bet then
again it is equally dear that the depositions have net been pro.
perly taken ; and by their own acts, or that of their Agent, they
have put theinselvka in a Niue in which they cannot render her
'irliat they so much wish to do—substuutial justice.
It is one thing to say,. tbattkey know wilts, to•find their atm
witnesses--and I dare say they do; but woat I cookod for is
this—that, on the face of the depoliffions themselves, this know..
ledge aboultappear—and not elleVrinie 1111 hot suds, or the
Cominissionene pocketbook. .1i „ ,
• stet, SIT, . A BARRISTER.
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