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effect from the inhabitants of Cite!What*. The petty
duller: held feelings, in conjunction with the majority
theEvpife. of the greasiest fears and apprehensions,
and they expressed those feelingsin-just and temperate
language. The Petition was signed by 4,300 indivi-
duals, incleding the majority of the Magistrate' of the
town and neighbourhood of Chekenbam, the Arch-
deacon, a number of Beneficed Clergy, and four •Dis-
smiting Ministers. He could assure the House that no
efforts were made, nor were any necessary, to procure
.signatures to the Petition, which expressed sentiments
in prevalent in the country. It was rather necessary
to suppress the inclination which all had to come for.
ward, and the names of some females which were sur-
reptitiously signed were erased by those who had the
regulation of the Petition, and who considered that fe-
males should not be permitted to sign; neither was any.
?ouch under the age of sixteen allowed to sign it. In
the prayer of the Petition he (Mr. Cooper) sincerely
concurred. The petitioners begged that the Protestant
constitution, which had remained so long inviolate,
might not now be invaded—that no new experiments
might be made, nor any other system pursued than that
which had been approved by long tried continuance—
end that those which had continued for nearly a century
ends halt might last to the end of time. The Hon.
Member presented similar Petitions from the parish of
Mainrwick, and other parishes in Gloacesteishite.
Mr. GREEN presented a Petition to the same effect
from the county of Lancaster. The petitioners, he said,
expressed their sentiments respectfully bat firmly.
Lord STANLEY thought that, if the country was in
such a state of confusion and alarm as was described,
the Honourable Member would not have presented the
petition so quietly. He admitted that many felt
strongly on the subject. but he denied that it occu-
pied so much of the public attention as was said.—
In the nighboorhood from which the petition came
there was only one Magistrate adverse to concession,
and the petition might have been in a great measure
promoted by his exertions, as well as by those of a
Reverend Clergyman who had written the prayer of a
Petition, copies of which were left in the pews of the
church during divine service, begging that vain and
wicked men might he removed from before His Ma-
jesty. This Petition was nut only sent abbot from house
to house, but even to the slate quarries, to procure the
signatures of the miners; and yet, in a district contain-
ing 5,000 inhabitants, it was signed by only thirty-six
persons.
Mr. GREEN said that he was adverse to the prac-
tice of addressing the House on presenting petitions.—
He thought that it was better to let the petition speak
for itself; and, as he knew he could not speak in so
powerful language, he was seldom in the hibit cif
trading his opinions on the House. He would not now
fellow the Hon. Member in all the remarks which he
had made, for he did not think that many of them re-
ferreclio the qUestion. With regard to the strong feeling,
the existence of which the Hon. Member denied, he could
only say that this was no less than the third Petition
which he had presented from that part of the country.
He would riot answer for any exertions which the Rev.
Clergymiii to whom the Hon. Member had alluded
might have made, but he could assure the House that
in one district from which be bad presented a Petition
against the Roman Cathol.c Claims,his Majesty's speech
had been received on' a S.turclay, and 04 the following
Monday he had received their petition. This he thought
was a sufficiert proof that strong feelings did grist nl
the country:
Su FRANCIS BURDETT gave notice that be would
on Monday next present the Petition of the Roman
Catholici of Ireland.
Sir H. SMYTH had five Petitions to present against
the Claims of the Roman Catholics. He would nr t
detain the House for any length of time; but he would
take that opportunity of protesting against the indecen,
baste with which the Ministers were about to carry their
measures. He had been told that the King's Speech
was sufficient notice of 'the measures which were intro.
duced. 'That would have been very well had not th.
Noble Duke at the head of the Government informed
them that the Bill would be one which would satisfy
the friends of the Protestant Constitution; and yet there
were no securities at all introduced. It was a Bill of
_entire and unqualified emancipation. There had been
a fashion, and, he 'thought' a bad fashion, of crying'
down Pi titions, and of declaiming against shop.
keepers who had signed them. For his own part, when
his constituents had asked his advice as to what course
they should pursue, he told them to remain quiet until
the General &tech.)°, and, when the :Member' should
come back to densaisd their support, not to forget those
who had betrayed their trust, but to reward all accord-
ing to their merits.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR thought there was quite suffi-
cient time for dis Cussing the merits of the question. The
Bill was not to be read a second time until Tuesday
neer ; and Petitions were day after day presented, on
almost every one of which a discussion took place. He.
lot one, would be yes, willing, when he should :min
to his constituents, to be judged by his vote upon this'
wneasure. There were few, he tha milt, who did not
consider that the liberal concessions and laudable secu-
rities which were introduced were necessary for the tran-
quillisation of Ireland. The Hon. Member had alluded
to the gene: al el: vino. lie (Mr. Taylor) might not live
to see another general election; but be would, at all
events, congratulate himself if he had a share in car-
rying the great measure ,1 Ch:i.aian benevolence and
Chi istian charity.
Mr. DANIEL WHITTLE HARVEY said that his.
Honourable Colleague cessmiele spoken very natl•
ligibly who* be said that his constituents shout(' not
itwget who trey were that had betrayed their our. He
eta riot 'know* wh• tber his Honourable Colleague bad
alluded to bins as betraying his trust. Ho load given no
iledge to his ainstiteestst but, ':mead of waitang for a
dissolet nt-Parliansent to justify his conduct, he could
assure his Honourable Cokague, that, it' his consti-
tuents were to call upon Wm, be would net refer to
the general election, but at once resign his seat, a•
be never could consent to hold it it he were not
allowed the exercise of his judgment. The "Honourable
Member then referred as an *stance of the inconve-
nience of'debating on petitions to a statement which had
br en made by as Wroisoutabbe Getneleams (ttic- SPURS
Rue) a few oights.age. That HonottrableGeatienran,
in answer to certain remarks which he had Otedre -1•10.0
he would *typos; the preheat maearese..la a thaw&
it was calculated to lead to a considerotionof the ram..
Eves cif' the -Chinch, had aasutne4 It tout isticis Might
tto 'be iliidthed is that Bonn Liesbilti anti ice*
kind of Feelionsentery Lwow, :aid he 4.4 g. 434-***
not a bithe vossialisitto beat the Hos: Giestieassa re-
test against illoseleamets, sadly!-that he wouldops'
pose the Bill if he thought it wouJ4 hate 'thfa e ect
• reducing the reveases of the Isiah Chsult, The Taff
baldness, and he would gall it else *rashness of bis qr=
pressions would haveinduced (Mr.- H:) to doubt
the Hen. Member's sincerity; and he Woold'beg to Ia•
mind the House that that Hot. Csentlasuart_diri. tete on
a former maim is 41w toinariagrombaraesisemt ft*
that povosowes imeedeadesediatt Thrseturds of

the House wouldheir him out in this assertion. Fur hie
own part be was &friend of the Church goablishmerit,
and that was his reason fox wishing to see its enormous
'avenues reduced.
Mr. -S. !LICE said, that, aftzr the direct t~~A
which had been made to him, he felt- himself enito
upon to make a few remarks. The Honourable Missiles
had, he thought, pursued the same course to which
he seemed to object to him, and attempted to read
him a lecture. He would appeal to the whole coursel
of his -Parliamentary conduct whether he had been
accustomed to dictate to others, but even if that
were his practice, the Honourable Member for Colches•
ter would be the very last individual whose sentiments,

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he would attempt to bias, as be was the last is whose
sentiments he would set any value. The Honourable
Member had varied his statements. for, on the night
to which he referred, be distinctly stated that his ob•

ject in supporting the present Bill was, to promote a
union between the Catholic Dissenters and the Pro-

testant Dissenters, for the purpose of attacking the
Church of Ireland. He (Mr. S. Rice) now repeated
what he then said, that if such mere the Honourable

Gentleman's reasons for supporting the measure, be
would rather not have the cause to which he had been

attached from his childhood inconvenienced, he would

not say 'disgraced. by the Honourable Gentleman's
Tote. The Honourable Gentleman stated that he had

acted with inconsistency, because he had supported a
motion for an inquiry into the state, of the revenues
of the Iti,h Chinch ; but he repeated he had never
supported any measure the object of which was to
lessen those revenues, He was perfectly ready t' sup-
port an inquiry into the laws of property, of tithes, and
of educatim in the Church, but tint to intrude upon it.

He was desirous by the present measure of proMoting
the att.ichment and increasing the friends of the Church
Establishment; and he thought if there was one measure
more than another which could consolidate all in the

defence of their Protestant institutions, and especially of

the Protestant Church, it was the present.
Mt. D. W. HARVEY pledged himself to prove, from
documents that could not be questioned, that the Hon.
Member for Limertck had ruled for a proposiion which
was resisted by Mr.Plunkett,on the ground that it would
be injutinus to the Church Establishment.
Mr. R. CLARKE said he had never heard a speech
more calculated to mar the great measure brought for-
ward by his Majesty's Ministers than that which had
fallen from the Honourable Member for Colchester.

He (Mr. Clarke) bad the honour of representing the
county of Kilkenny, and be could assure the House that
very little objeciion was now offered in that cruAty to
the payment ot Tithe.. The Act introduced soma years
ago by the present Chancellor ot the &chequer, and
entitled the Tithe Composition Act, had dune all that

was necessary to remedy the evils arising from the tithe
system in Ireland; and be was convinced that the same
hostility would never again be shown in that country to
the payment of tithes.
Mr. BROWNLOW by no means partook of the
view of the Hon. Member for Colchester, namely, that
the success of the Catholic Question would operate '
the prejudice of the Established Church. He was sure
that there was not a second Member in the House,
of that opinion. On the contrary, the general princi.
pie on which the question of Emancipation was sup-
ported, was its tendency to promote the interests of the
Established Church. I', e ill will which the Catholics
eotereeined towards that Establishment would then be
appeased, and the Protestants ovoid be united to a man
in support of it. Ap Hon. Member had said, that the
proposed Bill would amount to unqualified and uncondi-
tionsl Emancipation. He (Mr. B.) would ask, was not
the Bill fur disfranchising the forty shisling freeholders,
which was to accompany the other Bill, a severe coo.
dition ? But it was said that this House would have an•
influx of Roman Catholic Members returned, by the in-
fluerce of the Priests oser a Priest Jidda' population.
Would not the disfranchisement of the 40s. freeholders
do away with that influence? The fact was, if the Right
Hon. Secretary had introduced ever so many restrict i
they would not satisfy the enemies to concession. They
now wanted to delay a measure which was-calculated to
afford relief to seven millions of his Majesty's subjects,but
if it was a meatus for imposing restrictions on them
they would be equally as anxious so press it. He hoped
the Right Honourable Secretary would not be influenced
by them to delay it, but bring it on, as he proposed, on
the anniversary of the tutelar SAM of Ireland, the 17th
of March. He (Mr. Brownlosv) was pen fectly satisfied
with the BM as brought forwar‘t, though. ihe accom-
paniment of the Disfranchisement Bill deducted (rum
its value in his (Mr.B-.'s) eyes. But as the Right Hon.
Secretary h.ad made considerable sacrifices of personal
trtehogs on this subject, he (Mr. Brownlow) would not
hesitate to make a similar sacrifice, and howevet paih-'
kl it should be to him to see the 40s. freeholders die- !
franchised, still he would refrain from offering any op-
position to the Bill. '!
Mr. Secretary PEEL deprecated the discussion of thiei
subect until the Bill for the disfranchisement of the
forty-shilling freeholders was introduced. The alters
item of the franchise might be argued on very different
grounds from those suggested by the Honourable
Member who had just sat down. It was by no means
necessary that the Bill for altering the franchise should
be considered is the light of a condition on emancipa-
tion, or as a penalty on the Roman Catholics. As the
Bill for altering the franchise was to be introduced at
the same time as the Bill granting concessions to the,
Roman Catholics, it might be considered as a condition,
but it might also be considered, on separate grounds,
as an independent measure. The Bill about to be
introduced would be founded on the priociple of
equality, for it was proposed that the provisions
should extend to the Presbyterian and Protestant
forty-shilling freehrtlefers as well as to the Roman
Catholics. It was not intended to touch the franchise
in corporate towns, for fear it would be considered as
treechiog upon the principle of equality upon which
the. Bill would be founded. When considering the pro-
posed measure he entreated the House to recollect the
evidence given by the Roman Catholic Gentlemen and
Ecclesiastics as to.the present state of the franchise.—
The es/ideate ofthose-persom could not be suspected.
and they spoke "(ay forcibly of the moral effect pro-
dueled by- the pe*entatateof the franchise. He thought
it inspessibte to read the evidence of the persons to,
oboes he Had alluded **boot coming to the conches'
*ion that someukerstion in the franchise was desirable.,
Illopot it to any Ottewbo knew Ireland, whether aug
ilnog was more wanting in Ireland than a yeomanry, ta
film a-connecting link between the aristocracy and the
isswer classes? The inmate about to be introduced, it,
arras hoped, would do sobsething towards forming an'
.iodepewdeot body of voters of that class.. He felt him•
self called opon to make a few observations on this subr
iectio consequence of the reference which had been optic;
to it by the Hon. Member tor Armagh. He coold.sp
,aorribellouse that when the subject came regularly:be.,
[lore it it'would be found to admit of many considerations
-independent of those suggested by the Hon. Membue....-.
Ullie;linevornoeld learn, perhaps with surpriskhow large
• ipopostioit of the ineboldasregistiredwithimicatain

jsmind were so deficient in edocation as to be unable to noose, he was Pturrisakshat PeO!lsil wattle eatnototto one
twoir sows. Hio wow jot. anode to any par. of them. 'lle (Sir T. Gooch), however, bad reedited did PetittoO,
and therefore Irk it his duty to present it to the Heiser.
inonly, len the might mention that in one count,' Ur. HU It BOLD made a few observations on the cireunuoueee‘
silica 1822, the nooks of freeholders registered was ander which the denatures were diked. •
25672, and of that number 19 205 wese marksmen, The Petition was ordered to be printed.
or, in other words, were unable to write their names. Sir THOMAS GOOCH -presented another Petition trim Pr.
Surely these were not the sort of freeholders which terborough against further Coecesslons to the Homan Cadititics.
;Should be desired by any person who wished to make ..I.4,l,:reHse"n7urrlia. prayer Ott os'ailkliChtiV/4" he
.had thentanteothher Pe
ose wlhtieoich
Abie franchise respectable. In another county, where he had already laid before tilt (louse. 9.
utittewnasP no.t.:erytnuat,rouele
hum ten to fiftese thousand freeholders were re
witered, he wool,' be enabled to proee that not oar doted : it bore the name of One individual, the Itev, Charles Ald-
ridge. This and the other Petitions presented by Sir T. gooat
Itindred had applied to bit registered at their own weirleordereeditio be
eepribnieted.
aes
presented a Petition from the
instance. Nearly the whole were registered by liberal Physicians and 'Surgeons of the ealrourityof Saffolit, praying for far-
-445, or by landlords who expected the freeholders to ther Leilities in obtaining Subject, for Dissection.
vote etactly as they directed. Looking at the present state Mr. STANLEY presented a Petition in favour of the Catholic
Claims from the Inhabitants of the borough of Preston, and twelve
of.things, therefore, there were grounds for an alteration others from
print different
.0i parts of Lancashire to the same effect.—.
of the franchise entirely distinct from the view taken to
by the Hon. Member for At mash. By the proposed Mr. SYKES presented a Petition from Beverley, signed by too
alteration he conceivedthat they would be cutting off a Penns"' In favour alb. Catholic Clain"' •
StatiptatiOn to perjury. and raising up an indepen- Mr.
theBAT the ;tELKY said, that the Petition against further conceit-
dent class of voters. If any Honourable Gentleman mod sons tiosostar tamaa Catholic', from the same place, had two ikon-
Irks in favour of the proposed measure for altering Mr. SYKES then presented a Petition from a Parish in Ireland
the franchise, he said to that Honourable Member,the Sub-letting Act.—Bulb ordered to be printed.
againstbr,Lorekaul BRC
oar aTitiVnita
tphreestediet threeiA several Petitions from siki!.le
" Don't let the time at which it is introduced prevent
you ;" but he wished it distinctly tint to be understood Act, so:i a thirt!iin favour 9f thet tathoetiliC 1141.
as."l7ltedwalsVoe."
sbat the measure was to be considered a penalty on the seated several ember Petitinue from Parishes In Ireland to the sad;
Roman Catholics. He believed that the effect of the diem—Ordered to be printed.
proposed measure was not very clearly understood. Alllir
ST
. Catholics ON presented
from
Petitions against h rtherconsw:
aims s to the borough, .e a Ease
persons in Ireland holding freeholds of a less value than Betford.—. thdered to be printer o t
"1
Aid
201. were registered as 40s. freeholders; but a great Lord EBRI NG'fOhl presented a Petition which, Ito admitted,
many persons thus registered hid freeholds worth 101. was Oat very manieruudy signed. from the town of Sillnynnit, in
or 151. who would still have the tight of voting. In one • ravour
rueeedcodr
freoanitharateacetttlianinis. Though
where it
soused ti
county, a very large one certainly —he meant the c• unty Poi:tit:l7 oppoeitioo. Thge P
same
w INocble 'Lowed presented chn.taeselaag simdilarto
Of Cot k—he found om returns that 21:68 freeholds funs a Congregation of Protestant Disurntsts in Howiton
I.of RE. mere registered, besides 387 freeholds of 201. (dun)•— truth ordered to be printed.
The Mose would, perceive, therefore, that the pro- Sir
Claims from
PHILLIPSoe o ptesentfed a Petition in favour of collo*
pt
osed measure went only partially to limit the esercile rotHee-tateotitkib.seeentiwerts assembling ndlobliiingees,
Cro:strreeTChapilletr.‘efaanteheion :terP.
of the elective tranchise. lie had no doubt that the to praise the liberality of the Dissenting Clergy at the expiented
effect of the proposed measure would ultimately be, those of the Clatireh of Englaud.
to increase that description or freeholders and that Mr. THANT said, the ilonourable Baronet might, to whatever
ng
ecieiateliiityliweitthhoeuegthitastu proper,in earplaeuetihtinheeicondesuceteonfteetehteeelh/issebutilg
Class of voters which every one must wish to see pos.
sess this valuable fraisehise. He felt himself called proper to do betweeu thegir Znsduct and that of the Cier;ytisfvtgbe
upon to make those observations in consequence of what Established Churelc.
b.% PHILLIPSG.4 explained, and the petition was ordered to
11.c1 fallen from the Hon. Member for Aim agh, and in
order to prove that the me nine for altei ins the fraochise priced.
it'. LETHBRIDGE tae to present fourteen Petitiotis from
might be defended on grounds quite distinct from those different parts of the couuty of Somerset against further Guided
pointed not by the }Lit. Member, namely, that it was to the Homan Catholics. (Loud cries at hear, hear.") Among%
to be considered as the purchase to be paid for the them were petitions from. Uurcombe, Whitchurcb, the patigt of
St. James, tram Dunstan, from the city of Wells, Westbasity,
!measure of concession, or as a penally- on the Roman Witteamp, and Finsbury.
Catholics for their condoct—(Neat). Mr. C. ?ALLMRR prevented similar Petitions from Wooting,
Sir C. COLE was anxious to offer his Opioion on the fromTriniley. from the Protestant Laissenters of Russell-I Clads
present occasion, as he did not intend to trespass on the pet, iintberbithe, all in the county of Surrey.—Ord. to be printed.
Edilesteelted a similar Petition from Cardigan.—Also
House when the Bill came regularly before it. Tile ordlirLdP,RolbeC
angry men at one side were unwilling to grant any Mr. CAVAN AG H presented a Petition from spirit!' in Care
concessions, and tie angry men at the other side were low against the Sub letting and Vestry Acts.—Ord. to be printed.
unwilling to give any securities. He thought the Mr. B. Cl/ARKS presented a Petition front a parish in mot.
Ministers were unified in stepping in between those k'sir(l`Aelirsdici7lo"'n'yofg. C:tuhtticpeti,aitini Ofrd. to
ief
angry parties, and saying that they would have sion from the Barristers andrAttiirniss of Petitions
theicieen..
concessions and would have securities. He denied habitants Of Glasgow • from those of the parish of St. Leonard,
that the concessions about to be granted to the Shoreditch ; from the Quakeri of Cockednouth ; and idea a parish
Roman Catholics were the tae county of Cork.—To be printed.
roduce of intimidation, or in •
p
Mr. It. TREVOR presented thirteen Petitions from different
that intimidation could operate upon any man having placc, in wales against further concession to the Rosen Catholics
the spirit of an Englishman. Although he (Sir C. Cole) —To be printed.
would support the genet al measure, he confessed that Mr. HUME presented a Petition from Dundee in favour of
he did not think the principles of security had been car- Roman Catholic Claims.
AthesiemotlianrtyPoetfitimoenetwhas also presented from the Union of Ardee,
vied to a sufficient eztent—(Hear, heat). Those prin in -
ciples had not been carried to the extent he hoped for, Capt. Wield YSS presented two Petitioas against further con. ,
but yet he would not give any fictions opposition to the cessions to the Roman Catholics, one of which was from the pArish
measure, which he believed had been introduced in aor Wemyes. in the county of Fife.—To be printed.
Mr. S. RICE presented four Petitions from parishes in inland
most proper spirit. In favour of the Roman Carbolic Claims. lie also presented one
The Petitions, which were from Landon, Laverstat, and other of the county to the same effect from Job Lucas, intoner of Clate.
places in the county of Knee, were then brought up, and ordered
—To be printed.
to be pained.
Mr. LEG H KECK presented Petitions against any further
concessions to the Room Catholics from the Clergy of the arch
deaconry of the county of Leicester, and from ilauton-on-tbe-1141,
in the county of Leierster,whichwere read and ordered to be printed.
Sir IHOMAS GOUCt-±, on presenting some lea-
Lions from Sulfalk against concessums to the Catholics,'
protested-against the way in which the Petitions of • the
treople were treated in that House. lie had seen seve-
ral dragged through the dirt, as much as the el.,qaence
of the HArantalale Gentlemen opposite could do it.—
The commonest ma i, he contended, had a full right
to be heard in that Huu.e. He bad Petitions numer-
ously signed ith most respectable names, including
the Gentry, Cleigy, Merchants, Tradesmen, and also
a great num•aer e f other proms, who, lie was not
ash an.2cl to say, had a strong feeling on the subject, and;
wished to espies. it as well as Are r beams. Oa the
qu.s ion at large, in a very sew days, he would be able
to state nis own sentiments; bet he is.o t remark on
what had fallen from his [tight ilonourable Friend, it
he must not apologise Igo titling. him so, but lie felt
that he could not divest hiniseif of the respect and,
esteem lit had always felt for that Right Hon,:to able;
Gentleman, though he owned lie could no longer put'
the same degree of lull c.Aifidence in him as for:-
merly. Toe Eight Honourahle Geittleinan, in his ablmi
aqd excellent speech on I hulaclaj, had alluded to I
number of llo..ourable Gentlemen oho had take s hest
former view sat this subject, but had done so silently.;
He was one t-f that class; and be rinkd tell the flouse'
in • few words why he had not toteoer troohled it with
a speech, because lie had looked on this question. as a
matter too great for him to grapple wren—(Hear).—
The Right Houourable Gentleman had alio driwn a,
comparison between the number of Members reattOc4
on the Catholic and Protestaiit sides from. the 111.014.,
populous counties nadlholargest towns, and he had
made the numbers out .to be nearly equal. But this'
was all before the lan election. Look at what. hdp-i
petted since the beginning of the Sessionoihenthe.publre
were made acquainted with the inteattons of Ma.
`jetty's Government. The only two popular. electrons
werethosi of Oxford and Newer k—(Cbeers and laughs
'ter). Yes, there was another—Carlisle. At Oslord,
abc result was gained in a triumphant wanner ; his
Right Honourable Friend hid since been returned, by
(avow of Sit Manasseh Lopes, fur Westbury. 'these,
be believed, were all the elections since the time be had
mentioned. On brbali of the petitious he was about to
resent, be would say they had many respectableOames
signed to them; but he would not deny that a great
many people had also put their names to them, who
were of the lower classes.
tAr. R. DAVENPORT contended that many of the Petitions
presented oa this subject came from persons not competent to torsi
eny opinion on the question under consideration.
Sir BLAKE admitted that great respect should be paid to tbe
sentimenu of the people, even by those who differed from tit
bet he &Sewed that tbe right of petitioning on this subject had besi
greatly' abused.
Mr. H. GURNEY made some observations condemnatory et
*e manner in which petitions were got up.
Mr. Secretary PEEL begged to assure the Honourable Baronet
(Sir GOOCH) that no difference on political questions could
b the personal respect he felt for that Honnurable-Bereoit.
He did not think, however, that the Honourable Baronet was jore•
tiled in saying that the petiitions on this subject bad not been pro.
petty received by the House. • The House was engaged, tor more
titan one night, from the commencement of public business until
*keen ddock, in receiving petitions. Indeed, be bad never known
tw bard of any occasion wormy so mach attention was paid to ps-
MIMEO •
Tie Petitions, which were from Barham, Hanby, Mikan, &ow-
Market, hlelksham, Hadley, Little Tburlo, Yarmouth, sad other
placer in the county of Sdffilk, were the, read sad ordered to be
*rimed.
Sir T. GOOCH said4e was entreated with a similar Melon
tram Yarmouth. As the Members for that town were in the'

SMUTS OF

Mr. SPRING R (CB ruse to submit to fbe'lltinse-the moires
of which he bad given notice. He did not think it necessary to
occupy their attention at any length in introducin4 a Bill, cite ob-
ject ut which was to diminish the uncertainty respecting a itee of
law which bad given rise to much litigation, namely, that which
applied to the rights of executors over the residuary Property of
testators. Last Scission he brought in a Bill to remove this utter.
taitity, and the Bill passed that House. It was only his intention
then to re-intruduce the same measure. By the laws ai it at pre- .
sent stood, it was in many cases doubtful whether the residuary
property went absolutely to executors, or only to thc raiicutor: or
trustees for the nest of kin. He concluded by movaig tux leave to
bring in a Bill for the better disposal of the Residual y Effects of
Testator!.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that, in solving that diffi-
culty, ther should take care to do so OA the right side. It was
rarely that testators, intending that their property should go to
another, allowed it to fall Into the binds of executors: He be..
'weed that the law, as it at present stood, and as it had remained
fur more than a century, was pretty generally known, and as ge-
nerally acted on, and it might take one hundred years more to
have it as extensively known as it was even at present. lie was,
theiefuse, rather ayerse from, than favourable to, any change.
Dr. LEISHINGTON supported the bin as ten.:ing t.. remove .
a greit practical diflculty.
4lr. IL GRANT concurred in alteaMg the law hs the manner
proposed. Nothing was more uncertain than the law as it at pre- .
east stood. At coinmon 1.. w the 'genitor swept away wbatcvcr
remained after the different legacies b.d been discharged ; bat
equity, when there was what wire called violent prenuptial's!,
set the ezecutur aside in favour of the neat of kin ; the law might
then again interfere by putting in parole evidence, so that the law
; was so uncertain as to be an absolute disgrace—([tear). •
Mr. S. ILICR having replied, kat, was given to bring in the
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MUTINT BILL.
The report of the Mutiny hill having been brought up,
Mr. HUME said, that having in termer years an uc-
tessfully endeavoured to have a clause introJucr d int.;
the Bar to abolish corporeal punishment, he should now
nnly repeat his convistion, s:ierilthened by what he had
beard since the last discussion tit that use, that it -
was not necessary that the power et inflicting inch a
degrading bonarous punishment should resist in this
gauntly. He had been inforined that as many as 1.000
lashes had been inflicted upon one man, and that in
some regiments it was not uncommon; whilst in others .
two or three men only received tor pireal punishment in
the course of several years; thereby shoeing th it all de.
pended upon the characier tht cuistisandingthiscess.
Since be bad not been able us t;itipion the abolition of
punishment, he should now prop Fee tolirtiit himself to
restricting the amount of punishment. He, should Pro-
pose chat General Courts Martial which consisted of
thirteen (Miters should be resuicted to 500 lashes ; that
district Courts Martial which consisted of pine Officers .
should be restricted to 000 lashes; and that sktathoser
Courts Martial should not have power to inflict more
than 100 or 200 lashes. It was monstrous that three .
Officers should have the same unlimited power of co-
poreal punishment as that of General Courts.
Sir H. HARDINGE said, that the Hos. Member
was mistaken in his last assertion. Detathme.a Coutp
Martial were only in ose abroad in time of war, cur the
purpose of protecting the inhabitants of the century ;
and those Courts could not inflict any punishment till
approved of by the Commander-in. Chief of the Army.
With respect to the District Courts Modal they !:14
not the power of inflicting death and transportation,
and their sentencerequieed the confirmation or elegem- •
ral Officer ache district. But Regimental Coos tsMartial '
were more common than either of those yet ateamoned,
and the punishment they were empowered to rilisct was,
by instructions from his Majesty, limited to SA so that
the wishes of the Hun. Member, in alumna cases opt
of twenty, were already complied with. 4pg1014 was
not, as bad been asserted, the only nation wkich i. dieted
tqrforeal punishment on its soldiers, for it laieted its tfre
Saxon and Prussian armies under certain circumstances.