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emetimes to cornea their appearance by legal pro-
,• s. 'This ,hewed how inapplicable this lumber of
rid authorities was on this question-4 Hear, hear.)
when sifted to the bottom the authorities were merely
:retinal. As to universal suffrage, the Honourable
„veer Was much more pushed to produce an aueho-
y, His arguments from the King's Speeches were
itit more strained and flimsy than these from ancient
retie The words on which he founded the erg*.
rvt, were these-44 all freeholders summoned to the
etert, and others," and it was alleged that the words,
aed others," included the whole population. If so,
..net were the ancient Acts et verbose as those of the
r:eseat thy, for here were eight words where one was
edficient. The arguments on the words pleb .e, vulgar,
raireeney, commonalty, were equally futile. His
Honourable Friend made very light of riots and tu-
malts as likely to occur if elections were more fre-
eeent and suffrage extended, and the Honourable
Baronet cited Westminster, saying, that the elections
there were conducted as quietly as the proceedings at
a parish vestry. But the Honourable Baronet for-
got
that no man dared venture to contend for the
representation of Westminster. He must tender his
tribute of applause to the citizens of Westminster,
for re-electing the Noble Lord (Cochrane) after his
expulsion from that House. He confined his praise,
however, entirely to the motive which he believed
iefiuencel them in that proceeding, and which was
their resentment of the infamous sentence, including
the punishment of the pillory, which the Court of
flees Beach had passed Upon him, and but for
which sentence the Noble Lord would probably
not have been re elected—( Hear Ater, hear).—
lie then charged the Honourable reelected—(Hear,
with being
as inconsistent as his opponents ; for whilst he pre-
y:ad:4l to draw no line to limit the elective franchise,
he in fact drew one, but a little lower down than the
rest. Why, for instance, did he wish to exclude men
under 21 years of age, and do, as well as the friends
of his plan, a cruel and incredible injury to the in-
fees of the nation. Had not many men distinguished
themselves in arts, sciences, politics, nay within the
very walls of this House, before they had attained
that age? Why then were they to ise robbed of the
.eritt of election ? There was a still more interesting
las, the pride and ornament of society, whose
ceirits were enlightened, and whose judgment was
good, though perhaps liable to be lea away by
was that c'ass to be omitted, and
injured by the Hdaourable Baronet's plan? He then
alluded to the opinion published by Mr. Bentham,
tt whose private character, and studious researches,
he raid a tribute of praise, but who seemed to
have studied books more attentively than men.—
This Gentleman was the only taw, consistent, and
undaunted Reformer, for he wouli admit to the elec-
tive suffrage, not only all men and all women, but
even all persons of unsound mind, on the ground
that they could do no harm. Ile conceived it the
duty of every honest and wise man to make a stand
-ling such wild theories. Mr. Fox, as Chairman,
one occasion, signed his name to a set of Resolu-
ts, one of which was for Universal Suffrage. He
is met by Mr. Burke, who observed to him—" You
re signed your name to Universal Suffrage, but,
ievc me, you will soon be beaten by the—" and

oftener if need be!" He was aware that many Gen-
tlemen did not understand whit was meant by this
iervaticri, but it meant to convey, that if he were

advocate Annual Parliaments or Universal Suf-
Lye, o•r the ground of former Acts, which said that
Pa:li.unents were to be held at stated times, " and
texer 't need br," there would be no end to these in •

,:vaticins, and that one concession would only. lead to
theclaimofanother—(lkar, from Me .11inistertal side.)
take one step would only be giving those men a
foundation for asking for another—(hear, hear, hear,
11;1 the more side,) till you must bid for their favour
a base dross of compliance and submission, going
...far as the most ignorant or most unprincipled of
them demanded, or if you wished to be quite sure of
them, going one step farther--(hear,hear,-h.ear:froni
is none side.) He assured th,,House that if his opt-
:Jim was at all altered on the subject of Parliamen-
tary Reform, the change was not occasioned by any
interest of a personal nature. It was impossible that
:could be benefited by it, for he retained too many
points of difference of opinion, even on this very sub-
ject, not to separate him from any thing likely to
gratify ambition or love of power. He was too great
a friend to moderate Reform and Triennial Parlia-
ments, to let the little which he had given up fill up
the difference which still subsisted between him and
those who denied the necessity of reforming those
abuses which he passed his life in endeavouring to re- ,
more. He then repelled the assertion made by the
Honourable Baroner, that the Revolution of 1688
had produced a bill of fare, but no dinner—(hear.)
le‘ars it nothing to have ousted from this country an
arb•trary power, supported by a biggotted church ?
i, ts the demolition of Papacy nothing ? Ile con-
:iuded by expressing his sincere belief that his 110.
nonrable Friend's motion was not consistent with the
:rue spirit of the Constitution and that of the age, nor
the present state of society. He conceived, at the
tame time, that it was necessary, wherever flaws ap-
rared, to remove them within the limits which he
tad mentioned. And he vras equally opposed to
those who denied all reform, as to these who wished
'.'ry thing to be surrendered—(bees, hear).
:Ir. PARNELL maintair.ed that the references
aile by the Honourable Baronet to the past were
'whilst the inferencei drawn by the Honourable
.;I Learned Gentleman were unfounded.
Ir. CANNING, in !icing to move the Order of
t o+y, expressed the high gratification which he
":?erieaced at having found such an ally as the llo-
f-.:zable and Learned Gentleman, with whom, how-
t'tr, he did not agree in many points. He objected
moderate reform because it would lead, by de-
Zees. to the very
, object which was now proposed to
Vt. bow- Every intermediate step obtained would
as a stepping-stone to attain that end. Was
1.01 use to begin by admitting that the present
ras faulty, and deserved reform ? Then there
t'w, modes of reforming it—first, by bringing
' to the form in which it had been originally
_secondly, by reconstructing it altogether. He
t.,tt' d ask the Reformers which of these two modes
Prred? If the first, then let them name the
(11raic'n they choose as their criterion. If the
lot them explain their principle. The H0.4,t4b.e
.4,t4b.e Baronet had mixed a little of these two to-
i7t..:.ier; sod be ;Mr. Canning) would take this as his
arid ark .a.rn at sOtai period Parliament had

beett constructed in a better Moffar than at present?
When it sat annually (it it ever did) its functions, as
vrelloas the whole face of society, were very sliffervnt
from what now existed. What national interests or
individual concerns, brought before this House, were
not discussed, not only with the deepest attention,
but with the most enlightened views and abilities?
The Honourable Baronet thought that the will of the
people was not sufficiently direct on the measures of
the Government ; hut Government was not a matter
of will, and the whole machinery of monarchy had
been constructed to prevent that direct influence
which the Honourable Baronet advocated. lf, to
our misfortune, we had found a popular assembly
:existing under the direct controul of the people,
forced to-obey its will, and liable to be dismissed br
its authority, it would have been the duty of wise
Legislators to diminish that overbearing influence,
and to substitute in its place a deliberative freedom.
If, instead of this, it were again proposed to curtail
the duration of Parliament, he would contend that it
would increase instead of diminishing the evils of
which the Reformers complained ; for more frequent
elections,Viith the present limited constituents, would
give a great advantage to those who sat for close bo-
roughs over those who stood for open and popular
places. He felt much gratitude to the Honourable
Baronet for having at last brought the question of
Parliamentary Reform in a tangible shape before the
House, for it would then be in the power of all to
judge whether the present system was not preferable
to all the plans proposed. There was no danger in
this. The only danger was in those vague and gene.
ral discussions about Reform. It was said that the
House did not sufficiently represent the people. If
the House represented the people as it was under-
stood, and the will of the people was the rule of go-
vernment, then King and Lords would be nuisances
and excrescence. Let the House look at the last
year of the reign of Charles the First, and it would
find, in its own Journals, resolutions taken by the
long Parliament, and containing a very correct ex-
position of the Honourable Baronet's theory—(hear).
They would read that it was resolved—First, That
the People, under Gon, were the original of all just
Government. 2dly, That the Commons of England
in Parliament assembled, chosen by and representing
the People, had the supreme power in these king-
doms. And Sdly, 4, That what had been enacted or
declared for law, by the Commons of England in
Parliament assembled, had the force of law, and the
people were bound by it, although the consent of the
King and the Lords had not been had thereto."—
These Resolutions had been followed by a Vote, de-
claring the House of Lords no longer useful ; and
won after by another, dethroning the King, and tak-
ing away his life. Yet could it be denied that the
theory of the Honourable Baronet was contained in
these Resolutions? Whoever said that this ought to
be the principle of our system, spoke of a pure de-
mocracy, and not of a monarchy. But the House
and the Country would be contented to rest under
the shelter of the Constitution as it had been esta-
blished at the Revolution, for it had been found suf-
ficient for the prosperity and the glory of the nation.
He thought the Honourable Baronet had discussed
the question very fairly ; and therefore, instead of
meeting it with a direct negative, should only move
the Order of the Day.

The question was then put from the Chair upon
the Amendment.

Mr. LAMB supported the amendment, ridiculing
Major Cartwright, who had stood forward as the
Prime Mover of Reform, and yet had not been able
to understand that the words Brevia Parliantentaria
did not mean short Parliaments—(Hear, hear). The
Hon. Member was persuaded that the Hon. Baronet,
in bringing forward this motion, acted from pure
motives, and from a persuasion, that its adoption
would be for the benefit of the country ; but he was
convinced there were others that acted frcm far dif-
ferent motives.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. W. SMITH was glad that this subject had
been again brought forward, because every new dis-
cussion was one more step to the attainment of Re-
form ; not indeed the Reform proposed by the Hon.
B.u.onet, but rational and discreet Reform.

Sir F. BURDETT, in reply, complimented the
Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Canning) on the
openness and candour with which he had met this
question; but thought that the Right Honourable Gentleman
had been peculiarly unfortunate in his histr.rical illustration.—
He bad referred to the early proceedings of the Long Parlia.
ment of Charles I. but No seemed to hare forgotten that the
arbitrary measures it had adopted were owing to the abandon-
ment of the system he now recninmero.ed. Had Parliaments
been annual, the Long Parliament would never have existed,
nor perhaps would any of the unhapre consequences have rc.
suited, which the Right Honourable Gentleman had so decply
deplored. The ground taken by the Right Honourable Gen-
tleman was fair and open—that no evil prevailed, and that no
remedy was necessary; but this was a muter of fact, upon which
he was at issue with the majority of the subjects of the country.
He (Sir Francis Burdett) thought the attack upon the worthy
Major uncandid and uncalled for : the ridicule of his ignorance
of Latin only sheaved that his arguments could not be contro-
verted, though his scholarship might be disputed. An Honour-
able and Learned Gentleman, whose eloquence and talents no
man would dispute, had not behaved with the same candour and
fairness that had been shewn by the Right Hon. Gentleman.
His speech had been certainly very amusing, but it was far tram
convincing ; and though a sort of salmagundi of sarcasm, argu-
ment, verboseness, and panegyric, ( Hear, hear,) the words ap-
peared to be more abundant than the ideas, and the irony than•
the argument. As to the Hcnourable Gentleman below (Mr.
Lamb), he seemed only alarmed at dangers of his own creation,
like children who screamed at ghosts and hobgoblins which nowt
saw but themselves. Ile (Sir Francis Burdett) was rejoiced
that this great question bad been once more discussed, and that
the distincto _;5 with which the propositions had been brought
forward had been so gratifying to the Right Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Craning, : of him it was not, however, to be expected that
a convert would be made: he was teo well satisfied with the
present state of things ..nder which he flourished so luxuriantly :
he could see :to detect to be remedied, exclaiming:in his warm
admiration of tke perfeedons of the existing House of Commons,
" I look at thee but with a lover's eye,
" Thou bast no faults, or I no faults can spy ;
" Thou art all beauty, or all blindness I !"
The gallery was then cleared, and the House di-
vided—

For the Amendment
Against it

Majority - —lO6
Eir FRAMS Eleanor and Lord Cocaaarz were tellers.
The Regency Amendment Bill was committed, read a third
tinte, and passed.
Lord COCHRANE presented a Petition from Mr. W. Cob.
bet', late of Daley, in favour of Parliamentary Reform ; it was
of meat length, and when the Clerk had proceeded some way
through it,
Mr. PAZAK ER LEY moved that the House be conoted,and
as only ld Members were present, an adjournmect of course
int-
mediatdy took pine: at a quarter to 11 o'clock.

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Lord ERSKINE'S Bill for declaring the law re-
specting the powers assumed by Magistrates to com-
mit persons for libel before indictmextfound, was lost
last night, on the motion for a second reading.

The consideration of the Alien Bill tan; next
before the Peers, when a question arose on the pro-
priety of suspending the Orders of the House for the
purpose of having the Bill carried through two stages
iri one sitting, which caused the House to be divided
three times. Lord Stnnotrnes motion for suspending
the Order was finally carried, and the Bill was read
a third time and passed.
In the House of Commons, last night, Sir FRANCIS.
BURDETT brought forward his promised Resolutions
respecting certain Annual Parliaments and Universal
Suffrage, which were combatted by Mr. BROUGHAM,
in a speech of great temperance and ability; and on
a division, (if such a term may be used where all but
the Tellers were on one side,) rejected. It is impos-
sible, we think, to review the arguments used on both
sides, in any thing like a candid spirit, without con-
curring perfectly in the concluding observation of Mr.
BROUGUAN, that those who deny the necessity of all
reform, and those who contend that every thing should
be at once surrendered, are equally opposed to the
sound reason of the case and to the best interests of their
country. Thit there is great occasion and great room
for improvement in our Representative System, it must
be hard, we think, for any rational person to deny ;1
but that a change of so sweeping a character, amount-
ing to nothing less than an utter revolution in our
civil constitution, as that moved for by Sir FRANCIS
BURDETT, can be adopted with any thing like an as-
surance of safety, is a proposition which bears as
strong marks of political folly as any that ever came
under our observation. What sort or extent of Re-
form it may be prudent to adventure, is a question
which it will be time enough to discuss when any plan
of a nature really worthy of being seriously enter-
tained, is brought forward ; at present, it is enough
for the public to be satisfied, as we think all the
thinking part of it must be, that Parliament have
done well in throwing out, in the decided manner it
has done, the rash and visionary schemes of these West-
minster Reformers.

We have received this morning New York Papers
to the 30th of April. A brig from Antigua had
brought intelligence that Admiral BRION called off
that island on the 7th instant, and sent in a boat to
request permission to enter with his squadron and re-
fit, but which had been refused. The squadron con-
sisted of two brigs and a schooner.

A Cabinet Council sat yesterday from two till four
o'clock.

The PRINCE RECENT had a numerous dress party
last night.
Monday, the Duke and Duchess of CAMBRIDGE,
prevsous to their leaving Cambridge House to go to
the Queen's Palace to be re-married, allowed a num-
ber of peroms, the friends of the household, to stand
in the hall to see them pass. Cambridge House was
yesterday thronged with nobility and distinguished
characters leaving their cards of congratulation.
Lady ELLENBOROUOII'S long-talked-of Ball and
Supper were given, on Monday evening, at the superb
family mansion in St. James's-square, which was
fitted up for the occasion in a style of infinite taste.
The drawing-rooms were most brilliantly illuminated ;
and the coup Bail was in every respect complete.
Dancing commenced soon after eleven o'clock, led
off by the accomplished Misses LAW, Colonel SEY-
MoUR, Lad), GEORMANA BATHURST, the Ladies
GRAHAM, Lord WEYMOUTH, Lord J. THYNNZ, &C.
&c. The Supper consisted of every delicacy. Quad-
rilles and waltzes prevailed alternately, until half-
part four o'clock.
One of the most magnificent Balls the season has
produced, was gived by Mr. WALTER FAWKES, of
Farriley Hall, Yorkshire, on Monday night, at his
unique residence, in Stanhope-street, Mayfair.

M. de MAUBREUIL, who has lately taken refuge,
in this country from the process instituted against
him in France, with respect to the Er-Queen of
WESTPHALIA'S jewels, has deposited what he calls
a Protest in the hands of the LORD MAYOR, " as the
Chief Magistrate of the capital of a country, the Go-
vernment of which was no party to the treasonable
deed, (the assassination of Napoleon,) which be was
ordered, but refused to, perpetrate," against the judg-
ment latterly pronounced against him by the Court
of Douay. He has also lodged a similar protest with
the French Ambassador.

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