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had been- cast on hinvfor /has putting his name, as
from pride and ambition. The act was his duty, and
be ought not to have been held up to ridicule for it.
He should also repel the charge as falsely made,
which imputed to him conduct similar to that for
which Cardinal Wolsey bad been impeached. On
this subject. if the Honourable and Learned Gentle.
man (Mr. Brougham) had looked into &Deltic or
Martin Fowkes, he would have found that the fact
which he had mentioned of Cardinal Wolsey was
stated differently from the manner in which he (Mr.
Brougham) had told it. It was a tact, that at that
period the King was in the habit of granting to some
great men, such as the Archbishop of Canterbury
and others, the power of coining money. and that in
consequence of this permission, Cardinal Wolsey had
coined groats at York. On these groats were the
letters T.W. and also a Cardinal's hat. This in
pan was afterwards made one of the forty-four Ar-
ticles of impeachment against the Cardinal, but it
was only for putting the Cardinal's hat, which, ac-
cording to Martin Fowkes, was considered a foreign
mark. There was not a word in the impeachment
which imputed the putting the letters T.W. as a crime.
Indeed twenty precedents could be mentioned since
the time of Charles I. where Masters of the Mint pub-
licly put the initials of their name on the new coinage.
It was therefore most unjust to charge him (Mr.
Wellesley Pole) with doing t:lat which he had a
Iright to do, and imputing to him motives quite
the contrary to those which governed his conduct.—
He should again say, that as long as he continued
Master of the Mint, he should put whatever mark he
'pleased on the coin, of course always taking care to
avoid any thing which looked like disrespect to his
Sovereign, and from this line of conduct he would
not be deterred by any taunts which could be urged.
He should now offer one observation on what had
been observed of the expense which the new coinage
was said to be to the country. This had been stated
to be a million and a half. So tar from that, he
should state, that he believed the 4500,000 which
had been voted would cever all the expense which
had been incurred. He did not state this positively
to the House, or pledge himself that it would be ex-
actly as he said ; but his belief was, that the expense
would not be greater than was first estimated. In
conclusion he should observe, that as the instructions
which had been sent to the Magistrates were secret,
and as they had so fully answered the end for which
they were given, he would oppose the present motion.
Mr. BROUGHAM in explanation observed, that
nothing could be more completely misunderstood
than what he had said was by the Right Honourable
Gentleman (Mr. W. Pole). He did not complain
of the new coinage, but or the expense at which it
lied been issued, and he was sure he was not so un-
derstood by the Members who sat near him. His
object was, to thew that this issue of the new coinage
might be made a ground why the Bank should not
resume cash payments. As to the case of Cardinal
Wolsey, the Right Hon. Gentleman bad also mis-
understood him. He did not say that it was for
putting the letters T.W. that the Cardinal was im-
peached, but for having put a Cardinal's hat on the
money which he was permitted to coin.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
thought that the discussion had proceeded tat enough,
and he would not therefore take up the time of the
House. He should only say, that no such correspon-
dence as was now called for ever took place.
Mr. BROUGHAM observed, that though the
words of the motion might not extend to the particu-
lar correspondence which had taken place, yet he had
reason to believe such correspondence had passed
from the Treasury, or the Exchequer, or the Mint,
to the Magistrates in the country.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—
" Not from the Treasury."
Mr. CURWEN had heard a great deal of the new
coinage and of the manner in which it -.vas issued,
but he had never heard a single complaint of the
manner in which that had been done. On the con-
trary, be understood it to have given general satisfac-
lion —(Hear, hear.)
After a few words from Mr. Alderman SMITH
and Lord COCHRANE, the question was put and
negatived without a division.