Star.
London, England, 1817-04-01 00:00:00

MARY-LA-RONNR CHURCH.

Mr. BENNET wished to know, it it was true that
Ministers had been in treaty with the Duke of Port-
land for the purchase of the advowson of the new
Mary-la-bonne Church, near the Regent's Park. It
was a subject of some public importance, on account
of the patronage which it would throw into the bands
of Government, as the rectory was worth £4OOO a-
year, and-the offices of clerk and sexton were esti-
mated at stlooo a.year each, the duties of which
were performed by deputy. He should be glad,
ton, if the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Curwen),
who had taken a good deal of the business of the
pubic distresres out of the bands of his Learned
Friend ( Mr. ffrough..m). would give them some idea,
before they separated, of the kind cf proposal which
he should submit with respect to the amendment of
the Poor ,La ws.

Mr. BROUGHAM said, he willingly gave up the
task to the Honourable Gentleman, because hebelieved
that it would be much better performed by him.
Mr. CIJRWEN, in answer to the question of the
Honourable Gentleman, replied, that it was his in-
tention to propose that personal property and the pub-
lic funds should he subjected to the Poor Rates.
Mr. CALCRAFT would not at present say much
respecting the proceedings of the Finance Commit-
ye, but he was folly aware of the folly that the coun-
try would be guilty of, in expecting too much from
this Committee. A Right Honourable Gentleman
opposite (Mr. Canning) had talked of the anxiety to
do as much as possible for the public. In reply, be
(Mr. Ca'craft) must say that he was a Member, and
to be sure only a young Member of that Committee;
but he considered that not one single thing had been
;lone by the Comrgittee to please the country. Mi-
nisters professed anxiety to relieve the country. This
was very well, but did the House remember how
they had shown the reality of their professions ?
These was a recent instance of this in the motion
brought before the House by his Honourable and
Learned Friend (Mr. Brougham), which motion
embraced the various branches of the public distress,
and was prefaced by a speech as luminous in its de-
tails as it was convincing in its arguments; and yet
it had met with a direct repulse and a negative from
the President of the Board of Trade. Where, in
fact, was theie a proof of the slightest intention on
the part of Ministers to attend to the distresses of the
countryq The Prince had from the Throne recom-
mended the House to consider the subject of Finance
and Expenditure, but every man knew this had in not
one instance been attended to—(Zleor, hear).—He
saint again repeat, that since he had the honour of
being In the Committee not a single measure had
been taken for the alleviation of the public distress,
for on the contrary nothing bad been done to soothe
the people. It was important this should be known,
and be was sorry to say, an going down to the country,
he had no consolation to give his constituents
(Hoer, hear, hear).
Lord BINNING said, every thing had been done
that could be done by the Committee. They had
not forgotten their duty, but, on the contrary, had
given it every attention they possibly could. As yet
the question was under the deliberation of the Com-
mittee, and it was rash to judge before they had
finally settled. The Committee bad made already
two Reports.
Mr. S. BOURNE defended the Committee.
Mr. F. LEWIS said, the Finance Committee had
been most diligear, and the plan on which they had
proceeded was much better than to look slightly over
the whole range of the questibn of income and expen-
diture, and Report generally upon all the topics at
once. He did not wish it to go forth to the people,
however, that these Committees would be able to re-
move every grievance, because he knew there were
evils beyond the power of the Poor Laws, however
revised, to remedy for a long time.
Mr. CALC RAFT said, all be had heard did not
convince him he was wrong, and he must again re-
peat, that not one single effectual measure bad been
taken by the Committee fur real practical Ecopoitiy•

He was bound to say so in justice to himstlf
Member, and to the country in general. Hope js
good, but 'a hope deferred maketh the heart • ck "
The House then agreed to the queßinti of

,Irn.

went till this day fortnight (the 14th of April).
The CF,ANCELLOR of the EXCHLQOI.II
brought in a Bill for amending and akerlsig the F.x_
eise Duties on Rock Salt, which was read a first .raw,
and ordered for a second reading en Friday fortitiV:
Adjourned till Monday, the l nth of April.

THE EvENING

LONDON.

TUESDAY, APRIL 1, 1817.
PRICE OF STOCKY TIM DAY A I' TWELVE O'CLOCK:
Reduced .hut—Cow. money, 7214—f0r Ace. 72i
4 per Cent. ,hut--S per Cent. Navy, 1001
Exchequer Bills 44. to 141. pr.—lndia Bong SS pr.

In the House of Commons, latt night, Mr. AxGri.o
TAYLOR brought forward his long-promised Bill !or
Paving the Streets of the Metropolis.
Mr. PONSONBY gave notice, for his friends Sir U.
PARNELL and MT. GRATTAN, the. they wnuld bring
the question of C.itholic Emancipation once nure
before the House, about the 20th instant.

Mr. CURIUM stated it to be part of hic plat t:r
ameliorating the Poor Laws, to make all per
property, including the Public Funds, to t 3.
Rates. Nothing can be clearer than that pr:,
perty, as well as much personal, is 1::)•: nttej, ;,0:
a place to be dwelt in, but strictly :-rope•c!-.

Cairn is rated at a value of several honctol own':
a-year, though the house upon it would not lut
more than twenty if it were in a town, and could r.”.
be let at alt, except for the cake of the 1311,1. C.ns—
and Docks are also liable to the R4ICS, though, by
affording some constant employment to the Po r, ths,
tend to lessen their amount. Why should nut tn,n
upon every sort of security be equally subject to dens'

The proceedings of the disaffected at Maneheste7,
and the prompt measures by which their machinations
have been defeated, have excited every where the
most lively interest. Its another column we h.z.v!
given a full detail of the circumstances that bay!
transpired, and of the vnyintis statements that
been received respecting these movements.
In the nature of things, it is difficult, in such cases,
to ascertain the precise truth. Where aec►et
nations are in operation, calculated to disturb the
public peace, and these are defeated only by the viii.
lance of the Magistrates, it must ever be impossiLle
to determine what the consequences might have been,
had a watchful vigilance not operated to prevent :fie
execution of the project.

In such cases men may be brought to trial, and
may be acquitted, merely because, happily for them,
their hands were tied up before they had time to strike
the meditated blow. On the present occasion it ap-
pears, that eleven of the people apprehended were
actually assembled in deliberation in a small public.
house at the time of their arrest, and seven others in
a cellar. It is impossible to justify secret meetings
for political objects, at a period when the Legislature
has declared them illegal, on any ground whatever;
and the presumption, prima fads, must be, that the
object of the meeting was dangerous to the public
peace. That the Magistrates had information on
which some reliance might be placed, is proved by
the fact of their proceeding to the very spot at the
very hour or meeting, to secure their persons ; and
this circumstance fttruishes strong presumptive evi-
dence that their information respecting the objects of
the conspirators, deserved the utmost attention.
If but a tenth—a hundredth part, of the designs
imputed to these men be true, what blame would
have attached to the Magistrates had they been lax
in their endeavours to prevent the mischief ? What
would lamentations have availed after conflagration,
deAstation, and murder ? Manchester, it is said,
was to have been attacked on Sunday—the clay after
that en which the conspirators were apprehended—
the factories in the outskirts were to have been set un
fire, and, in the confusion expected to be thus pro-
duoed, the Banks, the prisons, and the barracks, to
have been attacked.

Tb reason about the folly of their expecting to be
able to accomplish such projects would be tidicvlous.
The attempt might have been made, and whatever
its results might have been, the consequences would
have been dreadful—much property would have been
destroyed, and not a small number of people mirl,L
have lost their lives.

It is extremely probable that some of the parties•
lass detailed may have been exaggerated by tl,e fear:
of the writers ; but that circumstance detracts
nothing from the praise due to the Magistrate- ler
the prompt measures by which the plans of the Co,-,
spirators, whatever they were, have been frustrate'.
It may be very true that they did not intend a tecol
part of the enormities that have been reported; brt
wheat popular tumults are contemplated, or 0r.:,-;
comtnence, who can tell to what they may lead i`
not tisneously prevented or instantly suppressed ? The
riots of the year 1'?80 were commenced by less t'
thirty boys and blackguards, but they nearly laid the
British Metropolis in ashes before they were supre,se 2

That the accounts should have been a little ctizt.:
ed by the fears of the writers is nit surpri,ing ;
so far as concerns ramifications of a plot r hick %vs,
to have broken out at other places, as Nottirgliarzi
Derby, Birmingham, and other large towns, ec
statements have been proved incorrect by tl.e
that is these places the hots: fiaed on ha: pa::,:d

w :t.. ut any indications of tumult, awl at the date of
,1, !nest accounts the utmost tranquillity prevailed,
the uneasiness excited every where by the
,r,:elligt nee of the danger with which the populous
town of Manchester had been threatened. In conse.
tsence there have been meetings of the Magistrates
tz3pectable inhabitants in different places to
,e,pi precautionary measures and be ready for the
icpression of any attempt to disturb the public
race. In some parts of Yorkshire, as at Hudders.
fad, the respectable inhabitants have taken the Oath
d Allegiance—special Constables have been sworn
in, and nightly patroles established—and the Yeo-
manry Corps of Cavalry have offered their services ,
I.; itlagistrates.
measures as these are highly to be corn-
*leaded, in as much as prevention is always prefer-
able to ame of evils. Great pains should also be
taken every where to impress the minds of the igno-
taat with proper views of the enormity of crimes
tt rtatening the safety of the public, and the persons
vs,,, property of indivnals. Da they suffer mach misery
t!e: ;resent moment t Who is flee from the pre,-
,11:e Isis trite that on the lower classes the present
erpr.,e,l state of agriculture and manufactures
„se, uirh peculiar weight ; but are acts of tumuli,
..i.,,rdinasion, and destruction, calculated to re-
move the pressure? On the contrail', they protract
t;:e mum of better times, by destroying that pro.
}..r:;• and that confidence which are indispensible to

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r;ght persons arrested at Manchester were
j7,ht lip re Bore'-street yesterday. What their ta-
t, :s may be for overturning a State we cannot say ;
certainty should not deem them very comp,-
the task of new modelling it. They were
.x.:tiy all men of the lowest rank of life, and of the
uraurtr. and most forlorn appearance. They came
by the Manchester coach, under the care of twu Mes-
r.nyer% !frailly ironed: their irons were struck off
u:s their arrival at' tbe Office. They were nut exa-
n:asetl, brit secured, and ordered to be this day
Ixtore the Secretary of State for that pnrpose.
L. e fallowing are their names:—.h.4o Botsford,
e.:ar I.o:rfiritirc, 14. Heity, Edw. Connor,
Hal-
le,, Lat. James J•Ars Robert:. Of
tt...e, Wiry, it appears, is an apothecary, and was
in the act or visiting his patients at Middleton, a place
shent six miles distant from Manchester, when he
sr.;: arrested. !Ward, wl:cs was taken in the same
r.:-:.,,lh,urhota!, is the same who was a delegate to
I.: 1, and had a dispute with Conourr about uni-
vers., Affrage. He is a young man about 26, and
sin ua be g'ftei with considerable talents, and to be
som?rdhat of a versitier, having written a Poem on
the 3,ittie of Waterl,.o, which neiley has been in the
habit of reLiting. The rest are as illiterate as they
are F.Cr'T and low in rank. Larscarhire, in particular,
can wither read nor write. •

JAMAICA. •
B) the Mail of this marring we learn from King-
ston, tlvt the 5;4 Lady Forbes, from Leith, which
tame to anchor Anatto Bay, on the 9th of Fe-
bruary, was boarded off St. Domingo on the 3d
of that month by two piratical schooners, and rob.
bed of fire-arms, gun-powder, and some provisions.
On the 4th spoke the ship Lady Hamilton, from Li-
verpool, bound to New Orleans, and learnt that she
had been previously boarded by the same schooners,
and plundered of several articles. The schooners were
well armed, carried long guns, and had each about
Seventy men.
Privaters are fitting ont in the ports of St. Do-
mingo w 01 Buenos Ayres, Margaretta, and Venczue.
ban Commissions. They are stated to be vessels of a
superior class, and manned with renegadoes from
different nations.

The Jamaica Papers present the following articles
A Veneznelian privateer, commanded by Captain
CRAVAL, a short time since made a prize, near Cape
Antonio, of a Spanish palaces of six guns, from,
Honduras, having on board 156,1100 dollars in specie
and 802 serrons of Guatimala indigo.
Boquilla de Piedra has been taken possession of by
the Royalists.
Extract of a Letter from the Commandant of Ma-
rines at Santa Martha, to a Gentleman in this City,
dated the 9th of February :
" has been entirely defeated in the river
Unane. between Barcelona and Cape Coders. He
had di►embarked upwards of 900 men, and has lost
more than SOO. He was wounded, and escaped by
Bight, with Arismendi, pursued by the cavalry.
" The Royal troops consisted of 550 ;men, 700
muskets, a piece of cannon, and 20,000 cartridges,
with balls, drums, standards, and the writing-desk
of Bolivar, in which was hts picture and his feather,
which fell into our hands."

Yesterday morning, the Earl of LIVERPOOL and
'Count MUNSTER, had audiences of the Prams Re-
nts? at Calton House. Soon after two o'clock, his
Royal Highness, attended by Sir B. BLoosstrun and
the Rev. Mr. BLoItnERG, left Carlton House for
Brighton, where the REGENT is expected to remain
about a fortnight.
Yesterday, the Marquis of CUOLMONDMIT left
Town Brighton.
The Marquis and Marchioness of Hr.serroso are
gene to Brighton.
Yester,..y, the Earl and Countess of LIVERPOOL
gave a kiand dinner to Prince EsEERMAZY, Count
''ad CI UinCii Ltavvi, Count FZERAN Nunes, and a
:z.lze party at Fife House.
Tuesday the Earl of Dorztou (now on his travels
'1 Italy), *tamed his 21st year, an event which was
.P:ebrated in the neighbourhood of Shrewsbury by
7'211 expression of respect and attachment towards a
CAleman and his family, whose piety and virtues
would jur ify any panegyric.
30xst of Covent Garden Theatre, is gone to Dub-
,' where he is to perform during the Easter week.
HORN And Miss MfttßY have been an a pro-
itisional tour .to Scotland. They performed at New.
Lict• tat their way to town, where they have arrived.
M Ci)NWAY commenced a short engagement at
11. e 11 tit Voratre, on 'l'itesday last, as Kin: Chad"
; a part which affords many oppos
t.:t, ties tor a displa7 of fine declamation.

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