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gone through, and the first reading had been moved
on the following morning at two-o'clock. This was
stealing a march on the House, [Hear, hear!) who
ought to have had more time to consider this impor-
tant subject. He therefore wished that a certain day
should be fixed for the second reading.
• Mr. H. ADDINGTON observed, that it was ne-
cessary to have the present Bill passed without any
great delay, as the former Alien Act was nearly ex-
pired. However he should have nn objection to fix
the second readinz of the Bill fbr Wednesday.
Sir J. MACKINTOSH thought Wednesday
would be too early.
Mr. H. ADDINGTON then moved, that the
Bill be read a second time on Wednesday.
Sir S. ROMILLY observed, that the expiration
of tile late Act WAS no sufficient reason why Minis-
ters should wish to press this measure with such haste
through the House. The country could not be in
any danger from the number of Aliens who were now
in it, more particularly as we were at peace.
. Mr. H. ADDINGTON observed, that if any
great mass of business should occur on Wednesday,
the second reading might then be further postponed•
till Friday.

Mr. HORNER thought it better to have a certain
day fixed at which the Bill should certainly come on.
It it were fixed for Friday, it would come in the or-
ders, and shnuld therefore take precedence of any ISO-
Cons which might be for that day. •
After atew words from •Mr. SHARP andlklr. LONG,
Mr. BROUGHAM contended that a Bill of such
importance should have a fair time for discussion,
which it could not have it it %vele to be brought on at
a late hour of the evening. He reprobated the haste
with which this Bill was intended to be passed
through the House, and ridiculed the fears which
seemed to be entertained of the Aliens who were in
this country.—He suggested the propriety of having
the second reading postponed till Monday.
Mr. LONG supported the second reading for
Wednesday, but observed that it might then be fur-
Aber Postponed if a press of other business rendered
it necessary.
Mr. Doecnets and Sir F. BURDETT were anxious
to have the second reading postponed to Friday.
Mr. ABERCROMBY moved as an amendment,
that the Bill be read a second time on Friday.
Lord BINNING opposed the amendment.
Mr. HORNER supported it. After which
Mr. H. ADDING TON ob.erved that he was not
various to hurry the Bill through the House, but he
. had beard no sufficieut reason assigned for its being
postponed.
The House then divided, when there appeared
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Majority for the see and reading on Wednesday
TH4NICS Ti LOAD EDWARD S.,MERSET•
The SPEAKER, in delivering the Thanks of the
House to Lord Edward Somerset, on his first ap-
pearance there since the battle of Waterloo. expressed
himself as foliose:::
Major General Lord EDWARD Somme sev—At length we
are gratified by seeing amougst us one of thow.distiliguislied 0111-
ee-rs to whom this Howe has voted Its I hanks for their eminent
services in the ba; tie of Waterloo, a victory eclipsing the fame of
*Bother Davies fought in those celebrated fields of war, and con.
summating the glob y of the Duke of Wellington, with whose
great name the grad. tele of this Hoot.' has justly associated that
et Field-Marshal blucher.
" In the Donations of that gigantic conflict, our historians will
sdways relate that Major•GeneTal Lord Edward Somerset, al-
ready known by his boiliant winces in the southern Provinces
of Franc.: held a s igh and forward command hi those gallant
charges by r:.e Walsh cavalry which defeated and destroyed the
boasted squadrons of eusraasiers. They will relate also, that
lieutenant-General Sir Henry Clinton, who had in five tormer
battles commanded divisions of that heroic army which rescued
Portugal and Spain, maintained alto a conspicuous post in the
support of the embattled hue, where the British Guards repulsed
and get to flight the Imperial Guard. or France. Nor will those'
other illustrious mess be forgotten who might now .have been
standing up amongst us :o receive our thanks, if the fate of war
had not laid them low in the grave of glory t—soldiers long dear
to the alkections and remembrance of their country, which will
never cease to revere and regret the veteran but ardent valour of
Picton, or she bright an I rising honours of Ponsunby.
"'I he days, indeed, of these our mingled triumphs and griefs
are now costa:Wel. Other scenes have opened, and other cares
have arisen to demand our vigilance. troth the long contest,
however, fluor happily clued, this durable advantage has resulted
to our coturry. We leave I.roved to out selves the value of those
manly habits and itutitutir.ns wli;:h have established the superi-
ority of our national character; and such splendid examples of
skill, valour, and constancy as we have hail this day to comme
morale, will deeply impress upon our enemies and upon our
Allies, to all 32,e5, a just respect lot the counsels and arms of this
Empire.
" Thespecial ditty which I have this day to discharge Is, to
deliver to you the Thanks of this lluuie fur your last great sec •
vices. And 1 do therefore now, in the name and by the com-
mand of the Commons of Great Britain and Ireland in Parlia-
ment assembled, deliver to 101, Major-General Lord Edward
Somerset, their unanimous 'a banks fur your iedefatigable zeal
• and exertions open the 1;i:h of June, 1815, when the French
army, commanded by Brit:air:we, received a signal and 4onipk:e
defeat."— (Loud chews.)
Lord EDWARD SOMERSET begged to ex-
press to the House the high sense he cn:crtained of
so distinguished a mark of their approbation of his
conduct in the memorable battle of Waterloo. The
House would .naturally believe that the impression
made by so honourable a testitnony to his humble
exertions, deprived him of words to express his feel-
ings in adequate terms.—( Hear, hear).—Whatever
might have been his merits in that great coaflict,
however, he begged to state, that his success was
mainly attributable to the brigade which the Com-
tnander-iteChief had thought proper to place under
his command, whose persevering valoui', and admi.
rable discipline, contributed so much to the success of
that important day ; animated as they were by the
example of that man under whom they had the
honour to serve. and whose presence instilled but
one feeling in the breasts of every individual iu the
British array, namely, the full and unshaken detere
reination to bring the battle to a succesful issue.—
(Hear, hear).—it having been his lot to form a part'
of the army on that day, and his conduct having
been deemed worthy of the notice of that House,
were circumstances which should be remembered by
Lim with pride and gratitude to the latest hour of his
rife.—(Hear, hear).—He had now only further to
express his acknowledgments for the handsome man.
ter in which the vote of the House had been com-
municated by Mr. Speaker.—(Nesr, hoar).
IMPEACHMENT OF LOUD ELI.ENBOROUGII.
• Lord 'CDC H RA NE moved for certain Accoimts
and Papers in proof of the charges brought forward
isy him against the Lord Chief Justice of the King's
Bench, bat from the low tone .of voice in which he
spoke, the nature of the papers could not be learnt.
mr. lipitNtß said, before any evidence could he,

received. the House-mutt first cletermint whether they
would entertain the charges.
The SPEAKER said he .h;d stated on a former
day, that till the House entertained the Charges, it
would be premature to adduce evidence.
Mr. LAW was proceeding to remark on the na-
ture of the Papers moved for by the Noble Lord, but
The SPEAKER interrupted him by observing,
that till the House enttitained the Charges, all re-
marks on the evidence were alsoapremature.

•
WOOL TRADE.
Mr. FRANKLAND LEWIS, Chairman of the
Committee lately appointed to inquire into the Trade
in Seeds, and into the Laws relative to the Woollen
Trade, before bringing up the Report of the Com-
mittee on the subject of Wool, wished to observe to
the House, that from the evidence taken, it appeared
that the price of Wool from 1780 down to the pre-
sent time, and pat ticularly during the last ten years,
bad been rising, and therefore a majority of the
Committee concluded that no part of the agricultural
distresses had arisen from the low price of Wool, and
that no alteration in the laws was at present necessary
on that account. But the main question had not been
taken into consideration; and whatever might be the
expediency of an increased duty on the impOrtation
of Wool, or taking off the prohibition on exporta-
tion, on this subject the Report afforded no infor-
mation.

Lord LASCELLES stated, that the apprehen-
sions entertained in the districts where the woollen
manufacture was carried on, when they understood
this subject had been referred to a Committee, were
.not that the importation of foreign wool would be
prohibited; but they thought that any duty which
could be of service to the agriculturalist must be a
duty amountieg in fact to a prohibition. A brisk
domestic trade would be found most to the interest
of the wool grower, when well considered. '
Mr. WESTERN stated, that the Committee Jad
closed their Report, while he was absent at the Ses-
sions, in the County which he represented. He vim.
plained that the Committee had made no inquiries
respecting the monopoly of home wool, enjoyed by
the manufacturers, and the protection of the grower
against foreign importation.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, it appeared that instead
of considering the whole subject, the Committee had
considered only a part of it.—They had reported a
fact which no man would deny, the fact that the dis-
tresses of this country were not occasioned by the low
price of Wool. But would this high, price continue ?
The large Russian orders at present kept up the
price ; but were there not strong reasons fur appre-
hending, that in a short time, Wool would be as low
as all other productions. He felt a strong disposition
to oppose the bringing up of the Report, that it might
again be referred back to the Committee, that they
might discharge the duty committed to them by the
House.

Mr. CALCRAFT vindicated the conduct of the
Committee.—They had exercised their discretion as
to how far they were bound to go into the subject.
He certainly thought this was the last moment in
which they ought to disturb a large manufacture,
such as the Staple Manufacture of Wool, without the
strongest grounds.
Mr BROUGHAM explained.
Lord MILTON thought this House, when they
saw the evidence, would agree, that there ought at
present to be nu duty on importation.
Mr. FRANKLAND LLWIS and Mr. CALCRAFT mu-
tually explained.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT, he had hoped to have
received notice, at least a day or two, of the intention
of closing the Committee. But he had only received
notice at 11 o'clock to attend at one o'clock that day.
He could not attend that day, and the same thing he
supposed bad happened to others. Two or three
days notice ought at least to have been given. It was
out of the usual line to close a great question on two
days evidence.
Lord LAUCELLES and Sir Jon. NEWPORT mutually
explained. •
Mr. J. P. GRANT had also received notice at 11
o'clock, and could not attend that day.
Mr. THOMPSON was of opinion, that the Com-
mittee had reported, with very great propriety, be-
cause they had reported soon. There was no desire
in the Country at present, that the subject should be
I agitated at all.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
ohberved, that the conversation had gone to-a great
length, on a question respecting which there was no
difference of opinion, and the Report had been de-
bated in detail, though the House, both in form and
reality, knew nothing of it. When the Report was
really before them, it would be competent for any
Member either to move an instruction to the Com-
mittee to push their inquiries farther, or to send back
the Report for their consideration.
Sir J. GRAHAM said, the Committee had sat
three days, and not two only, ss had been repre.
sented. The Committee had conceived that it lay
with the Agricultural Interest to produce evidence
in support of their case, but when they found none
had been produced, they called upon the Wool-
staplers as the persons from whom they would be
most likely to obtain information. The evidence
of these persons had not been attempted to be con-
troverted.
Sir J. NEWPORT explained. He had complain-
ed that evidence had not been called fur on the part
of the Agriculturist, and he had stated before the
Committee, that the Honourable Member for Essex
(Mr. Western) was not in town, and had requested
that the decision might be postponed on that account.
He had had notice, that it was intended to close the
inquiry only two hours before the Committe met.
Mr. BARHAM disapproved of the proceedings
of the Committee, the Report of which had been
also founded on ex-ftarts evidence.
Lord STANLEY defended the conduct of the
Committee. So far was the Committee from wishing
to proceed on an as pane case, that before any deci-
sion had been come to he had inquired particularly
whether there was any evidence offered on the part
of the agricultural interest ? There was sufficient
time for the persons interested to offer evidence, as
the Committee had adjourned over Easter ; but the
fact was, the farmers were perfectly satisfied with the
price of wool.
Mr. FINLAY thought that the Committee was
wise in coming to an early decision on a subject re- i
specting which much alarm was excited.
The motion was carried, and the Report was

brought up and read. It stated, that the Committeel
having inquired into the state of the Wool Trade,
were of opinion that no part of the present agricul-
tural distress had arisen from the state of Wool, and
that it was not therefore expedient to make any al-
teration in the laws affecting that article.
Mr. THORNTON said, that great alarm had
been excited among the manufacturing interest, and
that it could not be set at rest too soon.
Mr. F. LEWIS observed, that the proposition
which he had made to the Committee at the outset of
the business having been negatived by a large rnajo-
rity, and another motion having been adopte!, their
subsequent proceedings had been consistent enougb
with those decisions. It was, in his opinion, ur,t at
all necessary that the agricultural interest should be
obliged to make out a case, Link was the ditty of the
Committee itself to institute any inquiry which they
might think necessary. No evidence was, however,
necessary to prove that a duty on importation w;,uld
be a protection to the home grower, or that dl~ ex-
tension of his market would be a benefit to him. The
committee had, however, so early decided on the
main point, that all subsequent inquiry was una-
vailing
Sir M. RIDLEY did not approve of the line of con-
duct adopted by the Committee, though he thought,
as far as the evidence went, they hadgivea a just opi-
mon as to the result.

Lord STANLEY explained.
• ' ROUGHAM said, it was very doubtful
Repoit was worth the expense of print-
.
had heard of the -influence under which
it up, viz. of the manufacturing interest
on , .n these occasions, with a zeal worthy of
imitati. . the agricultural interest; were always
ready with their agents and their evidence. As the
agricultural interest did -not nor could display the
same activity, it became the duty of the House to at-
tend to their interests for them. The ferment which
had been dreaded was now laid, and lie hoped the
Report would be taken only for as much as it was
worth—which was little or nothing. It consisted of
a truism, and a non sequitur. It stated that the price
of wool had not been a cause of the agricultural dis-
tress. No one could say it had been, but it had been
imagined that it might be the means of affording re-
lief to that distress. The inference which the Com-
mittee had drawn from their first proposition was any
thing but a legitimate one—that therefore there was
no cause to alter the laws on this subject. On the
other hind he thought, that to legislate under diffi-
culties was the worst mode of proceeding in the
world ; and that therefore, if the wool laws were in a
defective state, the present was a better moment for
amending them than if the market had been in a bad
state. It was on the same principle that he ol:jected
to the motion on the Usury Laws, the repeal cf
which would be an extremely good measure, but
which he did not think should be considered under
the pressure of temporary difficulties.
Mr. THORNTON explained.
Lord LASCELLES hoped early notice would be
given of any intended notice -.n this subject, that the
persons interested might have time to make their re--
presentations.
Lord MILTON observed, in reply to Mr. Brougham,
that the consideration of the wool trade land been re-
ferred to the Committee as a subject connected with
the agricultural distress, and not as an abstract
question. •
Mr. CAI.CRAFT thought the wcol growers
might expect better support from our ()an manufac-
' turers, than front a foreign market.
The Report was then laid on the table, and ordered
to be printed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved that the Order of the Day for a Committee
on the Bank Restriction Bill be read.

Mr. HORNER proposed that it shonld be post-
poned to Wednesday, as some Bank accounts which
had been moved for had not been presented.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said he should consent to postpone it to Wednesday,
if the Honourable and Learned Gentleman (Mr.
Hamer), who had a motion, which had precedence
on that evening, would consent to go into the COm-
mittee after that motion was disposed of.
Mr. HORNER said he should proceed with his
motion early in the evening. but a would depend
upon the time when that motion was disposed of,
whether the House could afterwards go into the
Committee.

Mr. FORBES wished to know whether there was
any law to prevent individuals from sending gold and
silver to the Mint to be coined Silver WAS now be.
the Mint price.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that a law was passed in 1797, to prevent indi-
ividnals rending silver to the Mint to be coined--there
was nothing to prevent persons from sending gold t o
be coined. The present favourable circumstances
would, he hoped, facilitate the reformation of the
state of the coinage.
The Committee on the Bank Restriction Dill was
then postponed to Wednesday.
Mr. BROUGHAM then postponed his motion re-
specting the Liberty of the Press from to-morrow to
Wednesday, the.Bth of May, as the motion respecting
Lord Ellenborough stood for the former day.
Lord CASTLEREAGH suggested the postpone.
ment of the Committee on Agriculture, which stood
for Friday next, as it would be advisable to bring on
the motion respecting the Civil List on that day,
which now stood for Wednesday, for he intended to
propose on Wednesday that the House shauld ad-
journ over Thursday.
After a short conversation between Mr. TIERNPY
and Lord CASTLEREAGH,

Mr. W. WYNN observed, than when the charges
against Lord Ellenborough were once entered uptln,
it would be of importance, it the discussion should
occupy more than one night, to continue it till it'w•as
decided.

Lord CASTLEREAGH thought the decision on
these charges was a matter of urgency, but he did
not think it essential to discuss them to the exclusion
of other business.

Mr. WESTERN then postponed the Committee
on Agriculture to Friday se'nnight.
Lord CASTLEREAGH postponed from Wed-
nesday triad Friday the motion of which he had
given notice, with respect to the Civil List.
Mr. TIERNEY moved for a Return of the Pro-
duce of the Revenue of Stamps, Customs, and Ex-
cise for the last quarter,,ending the sth ultimo; and

after some conversation between
Mover and the CHANCELLOR of the
respect to the produce of the Stami
Act of the last Session, the motion
citnwN LANns.
Mr. TIERNEY for a detai
predate and application of the Croy!
This motion he v:as induced to rn
of the return on the table cf the
which it appeared tlytt reBooo w;
amount of salaries to the Cornrrissi
arid Forests, &c. wh3 superinterhik
and £3,O(X) were set down for the
of the office, while the hole
amounted only to 031,000. It appe,
of the surplus, the sum of re13,1.;00
houses in Pall Mall.
Mr. GREN hr LL stated, that one of t!lnce bow
vas purchased from him upon the esti:mre of
veyor co the part of the Crown, and Mr. Clai,;;?,.**l
his

bit. TIERNEY rt a question to t!'e Charcei..
of tilt. Exchequer, wita regard t!) tie current tap,:
01 the office of the Cwrimissioners of 14(w,
Forests ?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCT-7.Er.7211,
professed himself unable to answer the c:lemi„4o:
therefore suggested to the Right Hon. ceneinn to
o
put his question in the shape of a metion.
Lord CASTLE R EACH stated, that the cutio
alluded to were expended, not for mere official cc.
penses, but for other purposes, which would be
p!ained in the items of the Return to the tight Hu
Gentleman's motion.
The motion was agreed to.
CONTINGENT WCPRNIIIL
Mr. C. WYNN remarked upon the delay of the
Returns to the Motion of the 2d of April, with re.
spect to the contingent expenses of the several Public
Offices, for the last ten years, and moved that the
Returns presented on this subject should be printed ,
also that the other Returns should be presented lotthl
with.

Mr. CROKER assured the Honeurab:e Gent:
MAn, that the utmost exertion was used in the Adni:
ralty and Navy Offices, to comply with the ore
alluded to, and that considerable difficulty and titlA
must necessarily occur from the nature of the order.
After some further observations, the motions were
agreed to.
A Copy of the new indenture of his Majesty etitb
respect to the Mint, ~vas ordered to be laid before the
House, en the motion of Mr. HORNER.
On the motion of gr. J. P. GRANT, a Return of tit
Advances from the Bank to Government upon the
Land and Nixie Tar, from January, 1797, to 1916,
was tirefred, aster some conversation between the
Mover mlti the CHANCELLOR of the Fatalism:re.

A. Copy of the Resolution of the Bank in 1787 with
respect to its affairs, and the suspension of payments
in cath, was ordered to be laid before the House,
on the motion of Mr. J. P. Guam..
Sir M. W. RIDLEY took occasion' to ask the
Secretary at War, as he (Sir M. W. Ridley)
understood three Officers of the Dragoons serving ill
Frarce, had not recently been granted leave
sec ce, in order that they might return to College, ad
also whet!!er another officer (a Major) had not lately
ohtpieied brave of absence for three rears, in order
that he might accompany a young Nobleman in the
tour of Europe ? Such pmcecdings must, be tholOr,
excite universal surprise, and thtrefore he 'poled he
explanation.
Lord PALNIERSTON said. that he was onage
to answer' the Honourable Baronet's lis•
department bad nothing to do with the grant of al
leave of absence; but as to 11iese three Olt:ers, be
cresumed, they
.belonged to the senior rank of et
College of Sandhurst, and were allowed to return tar
the completion of their educntiDn-
Sir M. W. RIDLEY observed, that ttce three thr.-
cers to wh,m he tilluded did not btlung to Ole Sal;Li.
huts: College, but that two of them had gone to
Oxford. and the other to CambrLige.
Mr. 1). BROWN then moved the recommitmei t
cf the Irish E.l,—:tion Bill ; which, after some obser.
rations from S;r FLoon, Sir .1. Isliswaou'r, Sir 11.
PAtturr.t., and Mr. PONSGNEY, WAS re-committed ha
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