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Ittioritni'lirlinew, sit Captain Laurence.
Parther proceedings in this matter were adjourned
till Friclay.,--A4ijourned at Half-past Ten o'Clock,
ROUST? OF COMMONS. ,
A Moor from the Lords intimated, that their Lordshtps
had agreed to several falls, without any Amendments; but they
pronssed an Amendment •to the New Water Works Bill kMr.
M.A. Taylor's), and that they requested the concurrence of the
Honourable House to the same.
't r. M. A. TAYLOR regretted that all his endeavoUrs to
serve the Public its this Instance 'had failed by the proposed
Ameedoient of their Lordships. He had employed himself
anxiously and diligently, for the purpose of acconunodating the
community, by emancipating the inhabitants of Mary-Liebonne,
and other parrs
,to the westward of the Metropolis, from the
gross impoaitioni of the Proprietors of the Water Works AA
supplied ;hose parts with water. If the supply of that necessary
and vital article were now found insufficknt to aid the inhabi-
tants in eases of fire and the cOnveniencies of life, those Ist°
had ittterfered by their Amendment, and wit the Honourable
Memle r, ut.ve to blame. Ile therefore mowed, that the consi-
deration o':• the Amtuded 11111 be postponed till this day three
months.—The question Was put and carried.
Mr. CLAIM, from the Privy, Cowed Office, appeared at the Mr.
Bur, and presented several Papers, in cowequence of the orders
of the Hous:.—Read, and ordered to lie a i the cabin.
Mr. Atsor, from the Comity Court of Middlesex, presented
certain Papers, pursuant to the orders of the House...ace&
and ordered to lie on the table.- n_ •
The CH A IC' E LLO It a Owe 'EXC EIRQUER 13:plight In tke
Pill for raising X 16,000,000 en F.:chequer Bills.— It Was read a
first time. and ordered fur a second reading to-otorcosi.
Tb . Bill for raising 4'1,000,006 on Exchequer Main I=
*as 140 brought in..—Read• first erne, and ordered tor a
reading to-marrow.
Leave was given to bring in a. Irk to, permit nation by
Small Scalia i 0 Irelan4.
'Nlr. STC RC I.:g BOURNE brought op the Report on din
Poor Laws.—lt was ordered to be printed, and to be &tau•
ted among the Members.
HARBOUR OF coax, &C.
On the Order of the Day for the House resolving
itself into a Committee on the Harbour of Cork Bill,
Mr. HUTCHINSON made several observations on
this Bill, which had been introduced by an Honour-
able Baronet (Sir N. Colthurst). The Bill went to
ue
impose taxation on colliers coastwise. He wished it
not to be hurried through the House at this late
nod of the Session ; and hoped that the Hono
Baronet' would consent to postpone it till next
of P.trliamer.t.
Tne SPEAKER stated, that he thought it incur t:
bent on him to notice, that whenever a private Bill
etperienced a serious opposition, it had been the uni-
t-cant custom of the Hodse to allow the parties inte-
r.Nsted some reasonable time to produce their allega-,1
tions akainst the rntisure.
h4Sir N. COLTHURST assured the House that it '
the coecurre:tce of the Majority of the mer-
chants of Cork ; and that it would tend greatly to
the advantage and improvement•of the harbour. It
woltle be exceedingly hard that the Bill should be
lok, no' on accotnit of its merits or demerits, but on
.acconotnf the-lateness .'f the Session.
Tflie SPEAKER. wished it to be clearly understood.
that he ha.l only stated' the uniform practice of the'
.}-lcusgiu similar cases.; and that the shortest period
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CROWN DUTORII.
ABERCROMI/rZseeted 4 Petiti°" trm"
the Arown Debtors co din Lancaster Castles .1
praying that the House would cause some relief to
be' extended towards them. lie stated, that some of
the Petitioners, whose debts did not exceed 1:i00,
hid been confined for eight or• nine years, and must
remain in prison for a longer period, unless Legisla-
tive assistance Were given them. He thought their
case, e pecially'as they were debarred from the be-
nefit of all Insolvent Acts, to be such as to require
the interference of the Legislature: indeed, syeli op-
pression was a disgrace to the whole country. If
similar cruelty were know* to be exercised by any
private individual on an unfortunate debtor,, that in-
dividual. would soon become an outcast from society.
The .CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
stated, that awst, if not all, of these Petitioners, had ,
been guilty of certain frauds upon the Revenue.
Mr. AIiERCROAIRY maintained, that supposing
them to have been guilty.of fraud, as the Right Ito-
, nourable Gentleman stated‘this method of punishing
them for it was on many attounts WA. amble.
L The Petition was brought up'and.laiE the able

THE RANK.
Mr. GRENPELL moved the the Bank, confbr-
tumble to the Act of the 55th of .the King, should
lay upon the table of the'House, a statement of the
average amount of Bank Notes apd Bank Post Bills
which had been issued for. the lase duet years pkevi-
otts to the flth-of April, 1819.—Order. .
Mr. GRENFKLL then moved for.the n•••••
of certain other Act:mints connected with.
subject, Which, were likewise ordered.
CLUE Of, TIM PELL&
Mr. DENMAN said, that as the question between
the: Chief Baron and the Attorney-General was now
settled, he wished to know from his Majesty's Mini.
sters, whether it had not been recommended by a
Committee of the House, that the office of Clerk of
the Pells should be abolished. He had been so in-
formed by an Honourable friend of his, who, though
not in the House at present, had been a Member of
'it when that recommendation had been adopted by
the House. He wished therefore to know whether
's informatiou -was correct. -
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,.
that the office was not to be entirely abolished: it
was only to undergo certain regnlitions.
BANKRUPTCY BUSINESS.
Mr. WROTTESLEY stated, that as the grounds
1 of his motion had been already laid before the House,
in a report of one of its Committees. he should not
detain them for any length of time by his remarks at
present. The necessity of some more commodioui
place than Guildhall in which to transact Bankruptcy
business had been long felt, and universally -*Aram:
lodged : the Committee had, however, been of opi-
nion, that it would not be politic to remove the place
of transacting it out of the City ; and the site 1
Blackwell-hall had in consequence been fixed on et
proper situation for the new building. liel
therefore move that an humble Address be
his Royal Hi/gime:a the Prince Raga*
. to advance a sum not exceeding it:4o,ooos
irpose of erecting a suitable building fort
:am ction of business in ilattkru ptcy,and *swim
that House would make good that seen. -
a WOOD seconded the motion.
. WALPOLE said, that he did not know
recommend this proposal, with the promisei
rettenchment which had, been lately made on the
. side of the Noose. When they wanted
nobody was more eager for retrenchment than
ses Ministers ; when they had got them,
ty cared less about it. Their conduct reminded
i him of an old distich:
. The Devil was sick, the Devil a Saint would be •
. " The Devil got well, the devil a Sal at was Ise !"-(Leigeir.).
Mr. WROTTESLEY explained; the question was
then put, and the motion carried in the affirmative.
coax LAWS.
Lord E. SOMERSET presented a Petition from
lithe County of Gloucester, relative to the Corn Laws.
Ordered to lie on the table.
CONTIMPT OF THE AUTHORITY OF THE HOUSE.
The Order of the Day was then read, that W.
Hallet be brought to the Bar of the House, in order
Ito be discharged.
Mr. W. Head was then called to the Bar, and re-
ceived a reprimand from the &limas, in which the
nature of the offence was stated, as well as the cir-
cumstances of mitigation. It was then ordered, that
Mr. Hallet should be discharged, on payment of
his fees.

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PETITIOTI OP UR. CAUSTON.
Mr. Alderman WOOD offered a Petition from a
person of the name of Causton, complaining of some
misconduct on the part of the Clerks of the Post-
Office, relative to the circulation-of a London Direc-
tory, of which the Petitioner was the compiler.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR objected to the receiving of
the Petition : too many of the same kind had already
been laid upon the table. ••••••
After a few words from Mr. Lynam:now and Mr.
Alderman Wools; the Petition was rejected.

PREVENTION Of _
Mr. CALCRAFT, not contented with what h
been stated on a former day, said, that it would be
very satisfactory to the country to know what pro-
gress had been made in discovering some practicable
mode of preventing Forgeries, so highly injurious to
the community at large, and sn revolting to the feel-
ings of every person of humanity ?
Mr. COURTNEY, as Chairman of the Committee
appointed to inquire into the merits of •the various
plans, assured the House and the Honourable Mom-
her, that considerable progress had bees made in the
investigation ; that from a number of plans they had
selected one. in which the Commissioners bad the
greatest confidence ; that the opinions which they
had ori*inally formed continued to be satisfactory to
their minds ; and that no time bad been lost in pur-
suing the important task with which they had been
entrusted. With respect to the petticolar time when
the Commissioners would be 'stabled to make their
final Report, that depended upon cameos and dints,
over winch they had no cohtrouL In eariments,
combining the force of genius sad or art, incluchng
also the powers of extraordistary madfisery, It would
be readily admitted that a even time could not be
adventured in such great iase% Not a moment,
however, should be lost tobrieslthe whole to a satis-
factory conclusion. so as to enable the Bank to adopt
,the new system. He was induced to believe that it

would be accomplished in the coursiof three months.
VPhenGendemen seriously considered the elperi
nence, a
skill, and ingenuity, required in the constructio of
'system of such vast interest and magnitude, liberal
allowances would be made as to the period of inves-
tigation. The theory and speculation of experiments
were known to require much patient perseverance
and indefatigable exertion. The immense quantity
of Bank Notes employed ought also to be taken into
the account ; together with the facilities and expedi-
tion conducive to the same grand effect. The Hon.
Member thought it incumbent upon him to P
ledge, that in the leading objects of their pr
the,
suit
they had been liberally aided by the Directors of
Bank. The various Artikts had not been limited in
the expense of their experiments, or in the produce
of their skill. They had all cheerfully co-operated
to the same great end. They were now proceeding
with much attention and diligence ; ar.d fnain the
ample means afforded by the Directors of the Bank,
they had no doubt that their united efforts would be
crowned with the desired success.
Mr. CALCRAFT expressed himself so well satis-
fied with the information of the Hon. Member, that
he returned him his sincere thanks.
DO RE OT /ENT's LOTTERY.
Mr. GRENFELL observed, that in the Votes he
read the following Duke of Kent's Lottery—Pee
tition for leave to present a Petition for a Bill—re-
potted—leave given. lie understood that the subject
had been for some time before Government, and
wished for some explanation as to the 'nature of the
proposed Lottery ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
was perfectly ready to state the whole transaction,
`.far as he was acquainted with it. An Honourable
I.Member bad some time since applied to him, to lay
before the Treasury a Mereari 11 from his Royal
Highness the Duke of Kent, for a Bill to enable him
to dispose of a part of his property by Lottery. It
was then thought that the consent of the Crown watt
necessary, and the commands of the Prince Regent
were therefore taken upon it. His Royal Highness
Inferred the question to the Lord Chancellor, the
First Lord of the Treasury, and the Chancellor af the
Exchequer, who had considered the question, whe-
ther it would be expedient that any individual should 1
be allowed so to dispose of his property to pay off
debts or incumbrances and they had determined.
that to recommend such a Bill to Parliament would,
be setting a dangerous precedent.—(/leer,
They had, therefore, recommended that the Royal
leave, if it were necessary, should not be given. This
information he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) hat;
given to the Honourable Member who had offered
the Memorial; and it had been thought most con-
sistent with delicacy to the illustrious personage con-.
cerned, that the memorial should be returned, and
the whole proceeding considered a nullity. Since
that time research had been employed, and a prem.,
dent had been found which warranted the conclusion
that the consent and recommendation of the Crown
were not necessary. A Petition had accordingly been
presented to the House, and received, but his Majesty's
Government had given no sanction to it. -. I
kir. GRENFELL added, that Government had
acted in this affair as the Country expeeted of then?.
A bill had, he understood, been prepared in conse-
quence of the Petition of last-night, and he trusted
-6e House would not allow it to pass without 0.
examination—(hear, &ear).
SCOTER CHORCHES.
On the question that the Scotch Churches Bill be
read a third time,
Mr. MAXWELL observed upon that clause which
made 2001. the minimum of compensation to the
clergyman. In those countries, he remarked, where
the provision for the clergy was most ample, the
, morals of the lower orders were most degraded.—
Looking even to Catholic countries, it would be found
that in the Tyrol and other Alpine regions, where then
'things were very poor, morals were in a very pure,
gate; while in Rome and at Naples they were at an
ebb infinitely lower. He moved, therefore, as an
amendment, that after the words " not less than 2001."
shire be inserted the words, " nor more than 4001"
Mr. PRIMROSE seconded the motion. Supposing
it the larger towns that the rent of the church-pews
should amount to 4001. as his Honourable Friend had
4tat it, he, for one, should vote for that sum going to
the clergyman. But by leaving this sort of maximum
unlimited and undefined, the Clergy of the New
Churches would be in a better situation than those of
the old ones ; besides which, until this point were de-
finitively ascertained, they would always be liable to
be asked for even further compensation.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER,con-
curring as he did in the wishes expressed by the Ho-
nourable Gentleman for the advancement of the in-
terests of morality, thought, at the sara9litegoPt
he must have takes a enistakeo •
Any Gentleman, he believed, who w;fl'aictittikitited
with Scotland, would soreelr afore en r4tVrtrite
ia
Scotch Clergy being too well paid—(A eget.e
'minimum which had been fixed upon was cerTiCtitli
the lowest sum on which a. Clergy:, an.,his wifeand
family, could be respectably, sopported i Secitliftd.
Sir ROBERT IVILSON .ded to 'la the Mei
Hon. Gentleman whether it *u intended to-bbuulilldd
additional churches in parishes where there were el.
ready old ones existing,' astt,i4o skticja ;service was
performed twice a day ? 4,•
The CHANCELLOR 'tites-EXCrefeIUEIC ob-
served, that the objects or& Bill were then 1.
to provide addititional churches for large tom*,
where the existing ones were not of sufficient capacity
for their population and the other to provide them
for those large and renacke parishes at the extremities
of the kingdom, totally detached from access to all
others, and having none of their own.
The Gallery was then cleared for a division upon
the amendment, and the numbers were—Noes, 47
[ Ayes, 18--Majoritre agatnst it, 29.
Mr. PRIMROSE said, it was preferable that the i
right of presentation and patronage of the new livings
should be vested in those who already present to the
benefices attached to the existing churches.
C Lord BINNING opposed this, inasmuch as in most
cues those patrons were the'Mayors and Corporations
of towns. He should prefer seeing them vested in
the Country Gentlemen mad Landed Proprietors.
The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
The Report was brought up, and recommitted in
a Committee-of the whole House, when the amend-
ments were agreed an, and the Bill ordered to be
'send a third time tratorrow.

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,WILING FVX
The CIIANCYILOR of the. ERCHECiCER
moved the Order of the Day far -bn-iigtag t.p the
Report of the Sinking Fund Loan an.
Mr. GRRNFELL rose to make one or two short
observations on this measure. The House was new
about to act, for the first time, upon that provision
conam(„ily called Mr. )"ox's Clause, in the Act of
1786, which autho:ised the application of a pan of
the Sinking Fund to the service of the year. Ad&
tional taxes had been imposed, the produce of which,
together with' the assumed sum of 12,000,005, the
present amount of the Sinking Fund, would form a
real and effective Sinking Fund of £6,000,000. If v.c
should continue in the enjoyment of the blessings cf
peace, and there should also be a growing surplus ci
revenue (and he was one of those who were sanguine
in their expectations of such a result), he did think
that, possessing at the same time a Sinking Fund cf
£5,000,000, this country would stand in a proud
situation—(hear, hear). He-trusted that, eventually,
the Sinking Fund would rise to £B,OOO. It appeared
to him, however, very desirable that that part of the
system which gave a nominal arnoant to the Fund,
so much larger than its actual, should.be done av:a7.
It served merely to render the subject intricate, ar..l
to Create delusiou. He trusted that in the course of
the nett Session duce would be no objection to sim-
plify it, and that, instead of being called £17,000,000,
it would be represented in future, as it really was, an
effective fund of £5400,000, and no mote.
The Report was then agreed:too and the Bill -or
dered to be read a third time to:raortuw.
bt IsCELLA.WRISs. : •
Mr. WILLIAM SMITH mound the sepond reading
of the Mr.
Dittentere Marriage .i= • .
Lord CASTLEREAGII wished its pmvisiont to t•itnicl to
Ireland; after which it was read a second time, and ordered to
be committed to-morrow.
Colonel RA RRT -obtained lean te bring in a Date Expkain
and Amend loch Acts. of,hingesent :iir.jesiy as related to the
Duties Ind Stamp Duties payabre tin Bequests of Pettonat
Estates, Legacies, ace. in Ireland • •
The Report of the Irish Still Flue% Bill vrr brought up, and
the Amendinenti baring been agreed to, the Bill was orticred to
be read athfrd time to4norrow.
The Report of the Slave Registry Bill was received—thin/
reading to-morrow.
The New South Wales Debt and Trade Ells were n..td a

second time.
The Bill to rebuild Windsor Bridge was readatkird time and
passed. .
The Supervisors cf Customs Bill was read a-thked time a 4
passed.
The Reports on the Trish Permit Bill, acid on the New Forest
Bill, were received ; the latter was recocunitted.
The Coals Drawback Bill passed through a-Coetbaktee.s—Re-
port to-morrow.
.The Reports of the Militia Pay Bill, the, Irish Militia Pay
Bill, and the Annual Excise Duties Bin, wiTetwougtatlip; the
amendments were agreed to, and the Balls were animal. as be
read a third time to-morrow.
- The Tobacco Importation Bin was read's' third time and passed.
'Oa the motion that the Fisheries' Preservation BA be read a
third time, Sir W. Spatz:so, Mr. Hassan, and Mr. D. Gu.-
star' made a few observations' after which the bill was read a
third time sod passed.
On the Report of the Spirits Intercourse Bill being brersght
up, Tonle cLaversation took place between Mr. M. Pfreocasia,
the Coarsen:Loa of the EXCNINVIII, Sir R. VAEru.to Mr. C.
Ifurcosesos, Mr. W. S.ILITS. Ind Mr. T. WILSOV, the Bill was
ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.
The Irish Tobacco Revenue Bill,
I after a few words from his
H. ?moms sad the Ca•TICT.LLSP. of the Es' Icasciers,was read
a third time, aid pissed.
The Report of his Majeety's Property Bill was received, aril
ordered to be read a third time tomorrow.
The Stave Trade Bill, the Coffee Exportation Bin, and the
IlliAtorrintare_BiQ were severally read a second time, and
esdiald Oa bra eemmitted to-morrow.
The Irish Post-Office Bill, tie Smuggling Prevention Bill,
lid the Southern Whale Fishery Bill, were sever:illy commit-
and their Reports ordered to be received to-morrow.
The third reading of the Annual. Aecootau Bill was postponed
to-morrow.
The Reports of the Pil BM chards Bounty ,of the Customs
Foreign Wares Bill, of the 19Iand Coals Bill, and of the Crows
Glass Bill, were received, and the third reading of those hills
Med for to-morrew.
The Plate Glass Bill Went through a Committee, and the
tret was ordered to be received to-morrow.
commitment of the Appropriation Bill was deferred
illostiorrow.
the Town Rates Appeal Bill was read a third time zed passed.
Tbo *age-Coach Felonies Bill passed tbtough a Committee.
Ibitat 1114aorrow.
• the commitment of the Soip and Calico Bill,
' Mr. FINLAY complained that a bill of to much importance
was brought forward at so late a period of the Session.
After some observations in reply from Mr. Lummox); the
Bill passed through a Committee.—Report to-morrow.
The Assessed Tares Relief Bill passed through a Coalmines,
and ordered to be reported to-morrow.
A message from the Lords brought up Chase's Relief Bill, and
•the Irish Beak Restriction Bill, with amendments; also the M-
amma Taxes Composition hill, sod the Seamen's Wages Ball,
without amendments ; the F.nglish Pauper Lunatic Bill was also
brought front the Lords, and read a first time. To be read a
second time to-morrow.
The Reports of the Irish Customs Bit. the Penitentiary Tkllt
and thelrish Permits Bill, were brought up, and agreed to. and
ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.
A new Writ was ordered for the Borough of Bishop's-Castle,
in the room Of General litobtasou, deceased.
The other psalms were.tirfogpne through, and the House
!dinned.
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AMILRICA Alin MLR RINOURCIgL..-This work of
Mr. thump) • t 9• excite very considerable at-
. ' .t •.1
tennon particulafly among the Mercantile classes.—
lii;Wkite.twos 'of view *o*de-the tioject, whether as a
vshiabie Irked, a jealous Thal, tate powerful and malignant earniy
`‘ Ainklea and bar R.:sources" must certainly be considered as
Itiob)ect or the highest importance. Brfated commences
lrttb # brief view of the insportanee4E the Veiled Stases in them-
egbies, and of the misrepresentations which have been made CO7,
&ring diem; by various traretlets ; be then treats on the terri-
torintuarset of else United States.--their agriculture, population,
and on the capabilities of internal navigation which distinguish
America above every quarter of the Globe.—The second <lup-
us., which treats of the commerce of the United States, ex-
posesin severe terms, the Ittioaken views which actuated Mt.
Jeffershn, in t 1107: to lay an embargo on all foreign trade, and
Zg' , tout the•gteat and reciprocal advantages which Great
'min and America must derive from remaining or. an and-
'cabiti footing with each other.—The third cheistet treats
of the Agriculture and Manufacture, of the United States,
and contains many valuable Remarks on the Ilapolicy of
forcing a Production of Manufactures by Governinent Boca.
ties, and Other methods, beyond the. immediate demand for
them. Mr. Bristed gives a very interesting, though a sum-
mary account of 'the American manufacture*, pd assert* the
superior ingenuity of the Americans themselves ih all inventions
and contrivances of machinery whereby human labour may be
'spared.—The fourth chapter exhibits a luminous view of ter
finances.—The fifth relates to the Government, Polk'', and Uri
of the United States, and is vrrinen with much elegance ird
clearness of thought.—The sixth chapter is devoted to Liam.-
ture, and presents a very blest view of the intellectual territory
of the Anwricans, a branch of their possession's which fey

seem in no hurry either to cultivate or enlarge—the trailed=
from the state of literature and education, to msl}cen• std
morals, seems to follow. of course, and to this latter
seventh chapter is accordiNtly devoted, and will be *mind fa 2 cf
important matter. The work concludes wrn remarks tau s,he
present state of the Powers of Europe, calling upon Itretrn to
take the advantage which it holds out to liur to y tepee lt.:!! :/--
ces so u to make herself of conscquenco in any lutvre ! 4f-
ture among them.

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n ,*.ice to the objecting party wis seien'sliys..
,the most pros
air L Co' ram. Mr. BIiNVIITZ; Mr. • CatkoquAx, i should sherd
I 'calm s, delivered their opihicitisi. sabot a al4ebiiia presentesi to
Ae.ct on the commitment of the .8111..-rtr.l"4 41-- praying him 1
sus, 45.—the Din -tr4,.. or, , to -st.
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- otrentfeev. 401 i. . . Wk. ,1114
to , the trassactio
kb.. BENNETT allOatv 40 a'321.14_ - the him that the
oce Regent,- ruling. dili hi° w 47112 "wir'w" . Alderman
Zild tic gracinoly ptsai:to order .tbst there he General Vi
:seined to the How a -fat *Le *spat of the bow to ream
mmission of laqaty into the .Imatiptudence of the of rettenchrr
aods,of Gucsnsey and Jersert dated May I, 1816. Ministerial Si
Mr. 411:AdGE SATHWIST stated al: the steps Tans, tiabnd
rich had hesa taken to produce a satisfactory hives. his Majesty's
;ation sad report ; hut from the various subjects nobody carer
--...w...1 fiArlethe administration of the old Nereus, him of an of