Star.
London, England, 1827-02-20 00:00:00

most indecent and ill-timed measures that had ever
been proposed to Parliament: He could not sit dawn
without returning his thanks to his Hon. Friend the
Member for Northampton, for the uncompromising
spirit with which he had resisted it. His intention was
to move as an amendment, that the Resolution be read
a second time that day six months ; but as it had been
suggested to hive' that it would be more proper on a
question of this nature merely to resist the passing of the
Resolution, he would pursue that coarse. The House
then divided, when there appeared to be--
For the Modem 173
Against it . 70
• Mainrky in favour of the Motion . —lO3
On our return to the Gallery we found—
Tile CH ANCELLORof the EXCHEQUER on his
legs. The Right 'Hon. Gentlenun watlot. some mi-
nutes inaudible; in consequenceof the noise of strangersl
entering ,the Gallery. He saikthet the total amount,
of the grant to the two illustrious Personages exceeded,
by I,sool.:that which had been settled upon their Royal
Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of York. But, on
the other bread, the military appointments of the Duke
of York rendered his whole income greatly superior to
what would, even with this addition, be the income of
the Duke of Clarence; and ripen the discussion of an
establishment for any of the Royal Freely, it had been
the uniform practice of the House to take all circhni-
stances into consideration. 'Han. Gentlemen could not
expect him to enter i.ito a detail of all the particular
expenses likely to fall upon persons in that high situa-
tion ; but it was undoubted vat many claims were
made upon them which they could not withstand, even
if their own feelings would &Offer them to do so. It
was of course quite impossible for him to demonstrate
that the sum proposed was the 'most suitable sum that
could, have been mentioned.

Mr. HUME, amidst loud cries of " Question,'
that he should resist the grant in every possible ■
The Resolution was then read a third time.
On a motion that a Bill be brought in, in purr
of the Resolution, • _

Mr. HUME said, that be perceived a disposition to
check observations upon this grant, but that should
not deter him from opposing such an expenditure of
the public money at a period when they had petitions
from every part of the country similar to those which
had been presented that night from the City of London
and from Carlisle, •compligning of distress, and when
there was an admitted deficiency of upwards of four
millions in the national revenue. He would ask those
who voted for this addition to the burdens of the coun-
try, how they intended to provide for the exi.ting de
ficiency? Did they propose a new Loan? Or by
wharother means did they think of patching up the
income for the year? Was this an expense contributing
either to the defence of the country, or to the pr
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thWashowt dye eemeatela that sbeasande of laidastrious
people were left without a bed under them, it was dis-
graceful in Ministers to offer this addition to the income
of the Royal Duke, which, upon their own showing, be
had not applied for. The Hon—Member then read
several items from the Civil List, to shew, that the
Royal Family were an expense to the country of
255,0001. If the Illustrious Duke bad any family, that
might have been en* reason for the measure, which at
present was without the slightest pretence of necessity.
His present income charged on the Civil List was
29,5001. per annum, and in addition to this there was a
charge of 2,1001. for Ctrtain members of his family.—
This he thought an ample allowance. It was not for
the nine thousand pounds he contended; for they bad
thrown away millions in other ways—but on account
of the insult it conveyed to the distressed people, who
thought, and said in their Petitions to the House, tbai
excessive taxation was the cause of their distress. If the
,policy had been to render the Heir Apparent unpopular,
which had been the case in this country too often, no
measure could have been more efficient than the present
grant. Nothing could be more ill-advised than thus
to hold up the man who SughtNto be loved and adored
to the unfavourable notice of the Cmintry. He intended
to put on record the situation in Which they were, and
for that purpose be should move as an amendment—
* That taking into ussideratien the present depressed state of the
Shipping, Manufacturing, and Commercial interests, and the de-
pressed state of the great body of the people, as well as the alarming
dibliedon of the public Revenue, the House did sot think it expe-
dient to increase the pesetas of the Duke of Clarence, who already
enjoyed as income of IMAM. a year Irons the Consolidated Fund,
exclusive of his professional income."
Mr. M. &JERALD did not agree with th
who viewed the prcposed grant in the light of a prodi.
gal or unnecessary expenditure of the public money.
It had been charged as hostile to the Commercial, Ma-
nufacturing, and even to the Shipping Interest, but a
more exaggerated view had cm tarnly never been taken
of any subject. Upon no subject in his recollection bad
so much oratory been thrown away—(Hear, hear). He
gave his cordial support to the grant, because he thsught
it fair and reasonable that the Illustrious Personages in
who!. favour it was proposed, should be enabled ade-
quately to support the higher rank to which they had
been called. In a country expending a revenue of sixty
millions a year—in a country where a sinking fund of
five millions was annually set apart, to support one par-
ticular description of property, it was a gross delusion
upon the public, to persuade them that they could be
affected by a paltry 9.0001. a year, bestowed for such
purpose upon the Illustrious Duke. Then a ques-
tion had been falsest of the expense of Monarchy, and
a comparison instituted between England and the
United States. Into this he would only enter so far as
to say, that he trusted if they were to decide upon the
comparative value of Monarchy and Republicanism, it
would not he upon the paltry question of 9,0001. a year
that their decision would be given. He trusted that
they would not be called upon to estimate the value of
the two kinds of Government by a side wind, and with
reference to a question so insignificant. He would'
suppoit the grant, and all who knew him would believe
him to be incapable of giving a vote with a view to pro-
pitiate the favour of any party.
Mr. R. COLBORNE said that he took a different
view of the question from the Right Hon. Gentleman,
yet he was not prepared to concur in • perpetual oppo-
sition. Two divisions had already taken place, and as
there appeared no bop of resisting the grant success-
fully, he did not with to make it as ungraceful as possi-