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London, England, 1810-03-10 00:00:00

P.AIRLI2I MEN7:rIR7- PROCEEDINGS.
HOUSE OF LORDS, MARCH ch• ;4
In an appeal from the Court of Session in Scotland, " Spence
v. Auchie and tubers," Mr. Adim and Mr. Alan were heard
ter the Appellants.—Further Marling on Monday.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL laid upon the Table the second Re-
port of the Commissioners under the Scoti Judicature Act, which
was ordered to be printed.
Lord Wellingtou`s Annuity Bill was read a second time and
conunitted for Monday.
• CORN DISTILLATION PROHIBITION BILL.
Lord GRENVILLE, after ieveral observations
on the Bill, said; that as the Learned Judges we-
present in consequetice of the order of y esterdav
should move to put a question to them. The
'of his Lordship's question was to know whether
Bill tame under the provisions of the Act of dr
of George the Third, it containing clauses different
from the Bill of which it professed to be a coon,
tion, and the other bill having, in point of fact,
The Earl of LIVERPOOL suge-ested ti
piety of withdrawing a part of the proposed
tion, to which Lord GRENVILLE assented. • .
The Earl of LAUDERDALE spoke in favour-
.of putting the question.
Lotd REDESDALE opposed it as unnecessary ;
his Lordship not seeing ground forany serious doubts
on the subject.
Lord ELDON said he had an opinion on the sub-
ject, but should not just then deliver it.
Lord GRENVILLE said a few words in reply,
when a division taking place, the numbers were on
~the motion for putting the question—Contents 23—.'
INon-contents 39.
When the door was re-opened, we found Lord
GRENVILLE expressing the surprise that he and other
Noble Lords had fele at the recent division, as he was.
led to suppose, from the conduct of the Secretary of
State, that his motion would pas,.. He pointed out in
strong terms the expediency of putting the question
Fto the Judges in consequence of the doubts which
existed as to the nature and efficacy of the present
Bill, in the minds or Noble and Learned Lords,—
He stated his determination to try the effect of ano-
ther question on the same subject, and begged the
Noble Lord on the Woolsack to act in the present
instance on the same principles on which he had re-
sisted the Reversion Bill. The Noble Lord had ob-
jected to that Bill (which objections he approved Of,
though he should have voted for the object of the
Bill), because it went to make a mere act of suspen-
sion an act of perpetuity. What then could the No-
ble Lord think of the absurdity, the opposition to
common sense and reason, Of voting to continue that
which had no existence ? It was, in fact, a revival,
and not a continuation, two things completely diffe-
rent, and even opposite ; as the first assumed the
non-existence, and the latter the existence, of that
hich was to be revived or continued. Could the
Noble and Learned Lord contend, that the alters--
don in the present Bill, in favour of the corn growers
in Ireland, was not a most material alteration in the
Bill ? He concluded by moving a second question
to be put to the Judges, to the same effect as the for.
mer one, but stated generally,' and not as applicable.
merely to the particular Bill. •
Lord REDESDALE spoke at some length in op.
position to the putting any question to the Judges on,
this subject, on which he entertained no doubt. He
Cited precedents in the reigns of Charles the First and'
others, for the use of the word " continue," in the
sense of the word " revive," and contended, that
-though in common parlance we did not so understand
the word, yet there were sufficient grounds for giving
to it a sort of parliamentary acceptation. He objected
to questions being put to the Judges, unless there
'were serious arid grave doubts to be solved, which was-
by no means the case in the present instance.
Lord ELL ENBO ROUGH delivered his sentiments
in favour of putting the proposed question to the
Judges. His Lordship censured the retrospective view-
which it was intender the Bill should have, by dating
its operations from the day of the expiration of the•
former Bill. He contended. that the Bill ought to be
a Bill to revive, and not to continue, although there
might be some cases of a similar kind adduced as pre-
. cedents. He expressed his great surprize at the result
of the division, having entertained no doubt of the
question being agreed to.
Earl GREY strenuously supported the motion, and
remarked on the strong proofs given of the existence
of the "sincere and grave doubts which a Noble and
Learned Lord had deemed so necessary to the putting
a question. What stronger proof could be desired than
the contrariety of the opinions held by the Learned and
Nob:e Lords? That Noble and Learned Lord ( Redes-
dale) had said he had no doubts. He was a great au-
thority ; but there was the opinic.a of the. Lord Chief
aii'ACUABLE LIBRARY of BOOKS and CHOICE WINES.
Justice of England on the other hand, which was an,
xp lit SOLD BY AUCTION, by Mr. STONE and SON, authority he thought quite equal. It was .due, in
Aiiame Park, near Thame, in the County of Oxford, on Wed- justice to. the Noble Lords who differed, to the House
apseday, the 14th day of March, 1810, and Two following Days,
AVERY Extensive and Extremely VALUABLEtslation,
itself, and to the di nit and efficacy of leg •
LIBRARY, consisting of nearly 2000 Volumes, most of that the point now at issue should be fully considered.
them in fine preservation ; also 90 Dozen of Madeira, Claret, and The Earl of MORTON opposed the motion, on the
fine Old Port.—Amongst many other Rare and Valuable Books, ground that it had not been shewn that the answer of
are the following : ' the Judges would be at all material to the considera-
Biblia Polyglotta Waltoni, 6 vols. Corpus Historic. Byzantine .
uniform and elegant, 33 vols. Musro Farnese, 10 vols. De Dry. non of the Bill.
Descriptiones Americana, Africans, &c. 4 vols. elegantly bound The LORD CHANCELLOR declared his opinion
in Morocco. Grzvii et Gronovii Thesaurus; Gruteri Corpus Ir.- that the act of the 48th of the King dial apply to the
script. a Pitisci Lexicon, in 31 vols. uniformly bound in vellum. present Bill.
Ewa:antes in Homgrum, 3 vols. Thucydides Dukeri. Harleiaq
After some further conversation, the House divided.
Miscellany, 8 vols. Churchill's Voyages and Travels, 6 vols.
large paper. RushwOrth's Collections, 8 vols. Montfancon's Contents 28—Not Contents 41—Majority 13.
Antiquities, with the Supplement, IS vols. Dugdale's Baronage, After some discussion on some points of form, the
'Monasticon, and Warwickshire. Hollingshed's Chronicle. lad- third reading of the Bill was moved.
ges's Northamptonshire. Porches's Pilgrims and Pilgrimage, s The Earl of HA RDWICKE rose, and after ob-
vols. wutis's Notitia and Mitred Abbies. Slosne's Jamaica, &c.
&c. large paper. Monthly Review, complete. Patrick, Low h, serving that no inconvenience could arise from afr -
Whitby, and Arnald,in folio. Vocabelario della Crusts, 6 vols. I ther short delay, moved to postpone the debate on the
&c. &c. &c. third reading to Monday.
May be viewed two days previous to, but not on the mornings s Lord GRENVILLE then rose, and, in a spcecn
of sale, which will begin each day a; 11 o'clock precisely. Cara
logues may be had at is. each, the Money to be returned to Pgr• of considerable length opposed
.the passing of the bill,
chasers, of Messrs. B. Crosby and Co. Stationer's-court, London; He commenced by declaring it to be his opinion that
Mr. Munday, Printer, Oxford; at the George, Aylesbury ; ;;wan, Ministers acted uniformly and systematically to lower
High Wycombe; Crown, Henley; Mr. G. Wright's, Uxbridge; the reputation and dignity of that House in its own
Thame Park, and at the Auctioneers, Thame.
, eyes, and in the eyes ofthe public at large- They could
N. B. No person wi:l be admitted into the :::aleltoota without a
Catalogue. ,
adopt no better mode of doing so, than. the indecent
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TRANSPORT OFFICE, •March 8, 1810.1
THE COMMISSIONERS for CONDUCTING
HIS MAJESTY': TRANSPORT'. SERVICE, for taking
Care of SICK and WOUNDED SEAMEN, aadfor the Care and
autody e PRISONERS of WAR, do hereby give Notice,
That they will be ready at this Office,. on Friday the 16th of
March, 1810, to receive sealed Tenders, and treat with stub
Persons u may be willing to contract for Victualling Prisoners
of War, in sickness, on board la Caton Hospital Prison Ship at
Plymouth, for six months certain, from the Ist of April next ;
and for Victualling Prisoners of War, in sickness, at Norman
Cross, for six months certain, frOm the Ist of May next.

No Tessa.r well be received after one o'clock on the day of treaty, u►
any noticed tusk's the party, or an agent for him, personally attend.
Each Tender must be accompanied by a Letter from two respectable
Persons, engaging to become bound with the Person tendering, in thrSum
'41.,E500, for the due performance of the Contract.
Further. particulars may be known, by applying at this Of ; to
plain Rogers, Plymouth ; and Captain Pressland, Norman Cr.,:.

ORDNANCE UFFICA, Mend 5, 1810.
`4IIE PRINCIPAL OFFICERS of HIS MA-
J.ESTr's ORDNANCE, do lierAy gime Notice,
lffiat Proposals will be received at their Office, in Pall-Mall,
on or before_ Wednesday, the 21st instant, from such Persons as
may be willing to undertake the supply of FORAGE for the
ORDNANCE HORSES, stationed in the following Districts, viz.
NORTH BRITAIN,
NORTHERN,
YORKSHIRE,
EASTERN, exclusive of Warky,
SOUTHERN, exclusive of Chatham,
SOUTH WEST, including Portsmouth, Isle of Wight, and
Christchurch,
WESTERN,
WOOLWICH, with its Dependencies,
WARLEY and CHATHAM,
For a period of Six Months from the Ist of April next.
The Forage to be furnished in rations, consisting as hereafter
may from time to time be required, either of
10 lbs. of Oats or of 7 lbs. of Oats.
121 b: of Hay 14Ibs. of Hay.
And Bibs. of Straw And 8 lbs. of Straw.
And Inuit be delivered at the respective Stations at the expence
of the Contractor, who is also to furnish such Horses with Oats
of gibs. per ration u may be bilketed within the District for
which he contracts.
The Proposals may be delivered separately or joietly, for two
or more of the said Districts, and it is expected that the Contrac-
tor shall receive the Stable Dung that during the period of his
contract may accumulate, making an allowance for the same after
the rate of per horse per week.

Further particulark may be known upon application to the Of-
ficers Commanding the Royal Artillery in each District, and also
at the Secretary's Office in Pall Mall aforesaid, any day, between
the hours of ten and four o'clock; where the Proposais must be
delivered, sealed up, and endorsed—" Proposals for the Supply
of Forage ;" but no Proposal can be admitted after the said.Silst
inst. at twelve o'clock at noon of the same day, neither will any
Tender b.! noticed unless the party making it, or an agent in his
behalf shall attend.—By order of the Board.
R. H. CREW, Secretary.

PORTSMOUTH, FEBRUARY 28.
JAMES NEWTON ROBINSON respectfully in-
forms his Friends and the Public in general, that the final
Dissolution of the Copartnership of Messrs. SMITH and ROBIN-
SON has this day taken place, and that he intends in future to
carry on the business of Ship Chandler on his own sole account,
in the Shop and Warehouse in Bath-square, Portsmouth, where
the Partnership Business of Smith and Robinson was cairied dn.
Jsmas NEWTON RoniNsoN takes this opportunity of returning
his grateful acknowledgments for the preference in Business con-
'ferred on the late Firm of Smith and Robinson, and trusts by
assiduous attention on his part, to merit a continuance of it to
himself in future. Ik.

TO BE SOLD Tilt AUCTION,

At the Custom-house, Faversham, on Wednesday the 14th inst.

. . .
at eleven o'clock in the forenoon,
SIXTY-SIX GALLONS of GENEVA, for pri-
vate use; 50 CORNELIAN STONES.
Which may be viewed on the Morning of the Day of Sale.
A Deposit of 25 per Cent. will be required:

PORTSMOUTH, MARCH if 1810.

MR. JOHN SMITH begs to inform his Friends
and the Public, the final Dissolution of his Copartnership
with Mr. J. N. ROBINSON having taken place on the 28th ult.
that he has purchased the Stock and Premises of Mr. George
Toop, No. 24, Broad street, on the Point, where he intends car-
rying on the business of a Ship Chandler, &c. and will open in
the above Trades on his own sole account on the 20th instant.
J. S. begs to return his sincere acknowledgments for the past
favours, and trusts, by his assiduity and attention to business, to
merit the confidence of those who may commit their commands
to his care.

TIMBER, BUCKS.
For immediate SALE by PRIVATE CONTRACT,

AQUANTITY of OAK, ELM, ASH, and
other TIMBER, now standing in Woods and Enclosures,
in the vicinity of Taplow and Maidenhead Bridge, which will be
Sold in Lots, amounting to from £2OO to .£lOOO. The Winter
Woods must be taken down, and paid for immediately, and the
Oak.as soon as the season will admit.
For Particulars, apply to Mr. Inirie, at the Queen's Head,
Taplow, who will attend to skew the Timber.
Nb applications by letter will be attended to unless the postage
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-hurry with which they attempted to„pass Bills thrtati;li
that House, and the inconvenient periods at which
they brought them forward. He instanced the case
the Scotch Judicature Bill, and the contemptuous
indifference with which their Lordships were treated
in the omission to send them a Report on the part
of the Commissioners, though one was sent by them
to the House of Commons. In addition to many
other instances of the improper treatment of that
House by Ministers, let their Lordships look at the
had not received sufficient papers and
to form their judgment : they
,le Earl (Bathurst) that he had
now that no evidence would be
loss of time would create too !rach
rid their Lordships submit in this
pelled to legislate in the dark ?
'ed, found one branch of the CO.
enough to them at present, and
.. they might do as they pleased
_ Lords. His Lordship then e-
tereckinto a detailed view of his objections to the Bill.
They yearly Prohibitions were in tact more hurtful to
those whose interests were afffited by them than a
permanent prohibition, which would lead people at
once to some other mode of employing their means.
But, by the present system, they were kept in alter.
!nate hope and disappointment. Year after year Mi-
nisters came to Parliament to prohibit one of the
greatest sources of natiJnal we ilth, as their own in-
terests iendeie I such measures expedient; and now,
-when all parts of the 'country in England and in
Scotland, were anxious to tell their Lordships their
complaints against the system of Ministers, the House
was told there was no time to be lost, even fOr
the sake of the valuable information contained in the
Petitions of all those concerned in the agricultural in-
terests of the country. Was such a period as the
'present that which Ministers could select to excite
discontent in the minds of the public ? On former
occasions it was held out, that the necessity of the
prohibition was so urgent, that it must extend uni-
versally through Great Britain and Irelan; all the
community must labour under it; A poor consola-
tion at the beit ! GOD forbid that he should wish to
extend the injury to Ireland It was an injury to
England and to Scotland that he complained of—an
injury that put great part of the agricultural means
of this island under a proscription and ban !—This
country, however, presented many modes of employ-
ing the means of private and public wealth, from the
variety of her arts, manufactures, and pursuits. But
in Ireland the case was very different. To cramp
her agriculture was to affect nearly the whole of her
means of wealth. It appeared, that the plan of Mi.
nisters was to secure certain interests, hy making the
prohibition permanent in this country, though they
were afraid to do so in Ireland. But this measure was,
in fact, an absolute violation of the Act of Union be-
tween Great Britain and Ireland. The object of the
union of these two great nations was not mere form
and name ; but it was to create reciprocal habits and
identitrof views and interests. The spirit of that
measure was violated by the Bill, by placing the
corn growers of Ireland and Great Britain upon dif-
ferent footings. These Ministers continued to divide
their interests, and in short to set them in direct op-
position to each other. But this was a violation of
the letter of the compact, which said, that after the
Union all prohibitions should cease of articles that
were the growth of either island. Duties we might
lay on according to circumstances, but the import
was not to be prohibited, as this Bill prohibited it.—
On the faith of those Articles of Union, the Irish
surrendered their own independent Parliament, aria
now Ministers came with shameless front to violate
the stipulations of that bond which was sealed with
the independence of Ireland. For what purpose were
such stipulations made ? Why not have merely Tett
such matters to the future discretion of Parliament ?
No, not the magnanimity but the justice of England
to the weaker country, Scotland; and, secondly, to
the weaker country Ireland, were willing, substan-
tial, and inviolable securities for the preservation of
their respective interests. Would Noble Lords be
graatly surprised, :idler supporting such a miserable
system of measures, if they were to hear that they
were shaking the foundation of security for the Union
with Ireland ? In other times than the present, his
Lordship felt confident that such statements, and the
important considerations which naturally arose out
of them, would have ensured the rejection of the bill.
But pow their Lordships were not even to be permit- .
t 4 ,to enlighten their judgments by asking the nisi-
ninkof the judges of England on a point concerning
eeh-0 even the Lord Chief Justice doubted. But lie
felt,* surprise at all this ; for the conduct of Admi-
nistration was altogether such as to prepare him for
evert thing that was impolitic. •
Lord LIVERPOOL observed, that if the charges
of the Noble Baron against his Majesty's Ministers
in that. House, were not so freqeent, they might, per-
haps, be heard with more effect': but lot what might
be the measure under discussion, the House was sure
to hear from the Noble Baron the same strain of op-
position and imputation against Ministers, insomuch
that he conceived his arguments had little weight with
that- House, or with the country. With respect to
the present measures, it was by no means new to their
Lordships. It had frequently been discussed in the
two preceding years, and the same principle sanc-
tioned by their Lordships' adoption. It was now only
proposed to continue it preciselyon the same ground
of expediency as before, namely, the high price of
corn, and the necessity of guarding against scarcity
in that necessary article of subsistence. When the
same measure was discussed, on two former occa-
sions, the Noble Baron was present, and never spoke
against it, although it had now his strongest opposi-
tion. The question to be considered was, merely
whether it was expedient, under the existing state-of
things, to- continue the Bill for another year ? He
should not now enter into the policy of its former
adoption. It was fully approved by Parliament then ;

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