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THURSDAY, DEtEMUERT 21, -18211. - •

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THOitP, MATOII. •
A COMMON COUNCIL, holden in the Chamber
'4 jib of the Guildhall of the City of London; on Wetwitaokr,
the 20th day of December, NW,
Rasmus, That the Answer of his Masters, now read, be
enteral upon thi Journals of this Court.

self. see* a hand.bill of-that description, which had
him:circulated-hi the City, and which, if the base
design had tiecen effect, Would no doubt have been
made a. pretext for calling • in the Military, and
making fresh inroads uppn the liberties of& Peop'..;,,
He avid expressed his Conviction that there Was not
a single sentiment in the Petition Which otr;lot aot to .1.
!bavelieea coawiyed to the Throne, nor a single ells.
SagiOn Whith was not capable of proof. '
Mr. Gittinitnis spoke for the Amendment.
Mr.jure supported the original motion.
' Mr, OLDIVAg spoke -for the original motion. He'.
bad Witnessed with astonishment and in • •
conduct of a Noble Duke, who had foe t the het-I
ties of his country,' and a Noble Marquis, who stood
by witha broad grin on their faces, doriag the whole
time the Petition was read, thus at once offercige .La
indignity to the King, and an insult to the Pe
He was much mistaken if such conduct his, mid

Went; and that
ge4ned his information from the writer of those letters,
l'Ar.--.--41,14he Honourable Gentleman
Mr, NARROW complimented, the Alderman's h.
senility, bet .he said that it rant be at the evoke
of his candOur. The Aldermanhad affected to en.•
ewer a statement ef. what he-(Mr. Pmrson) was sup..
'posed to have said at some other Meeting, where**
Alderman was not pres7nt ; bat left unansiverest
queitien which he (Mr. Pearson) had then put ro hint-
to his face. He (Mr. Pearson) had never said that
,the Alderman went to the meeting in question
" mused up;" but that he went to meet c.‘ the mys-
lerious stranger, who was -moiled np in a' great
coat," Br.c. and for the.truth of this, he had, to •be
sure, no other guarantee than the Alderman's word I
(Hear, bear).-lEint he (Mr: Pearson).again repeated
the question, Witat.has the.worthy Alderman done
with the plaeards and hanthibilis, about which, at
the time, .he. made so muchnoise, arid which have
new disappetwed from the Mansionwhouse?
Alderman ATr,tas shortly replied,- that a great
itiany of thehandrlidin be certainly poeseesell, and
also much information upon the subject. The state,
meats which he had made et the time, relating to
the plot against the City and its inhabitants, had
b enverified by the end of Thistlewood and his
coMpaniotter4Hear, hear! and a lairei).
The Loan idAYOR observed, that the present dis,
cussion bad perhaps taken a wider range than -it •
ought to have done; and he trusted Gentlemen would
abstain from all personal observations.
Mr. PEARSON said, the worthy Alderman had cer,
taialy contrived very dexterously to elude the ques-
tion which he had put to him, He had certainly
stated, on a former occasion, that he had had an in,
terview with a person muffled up in disguise. If the
worthy Alderman could not tell from whence the
hand-bills came, he could tell them, perhaps, whither
they had gone.
Mr. Alderman ATKINS said, that many respect-
able persons had come to him, under the influence
of alarm, at the time of Thistlewood's plot ; but he
never had an interview with a person in disguise.
There was certainly an immense number of hand-
bills in his possession.
Mr. 8, Dirozr supported the Amendment. The
Answer was the most gracious Answer of their So-
vereign, and he could not regard it in any other
light.. He-thought they would thew their good sense
in not departing from the established custom, of
entering the Answer of his Majesty upon their Jour,
nals.—Mr. TAYLOR spoke for the original Motion.
After a short reply from Mr..F.tvau., the Amend,
ment was put, and lost by a great majority'.
Sir C. HUNTER regretted that he had not entered
the Court earlier, as it was his intention to have pro-
posed an Amendment. -He felt the highest esteem
and gratitude for the first Lord of the Treasury, and,
he entertained the greatest respect for-the rest of his
Majesty's Ministers.- He thought, indeed, that thnse
great mcn had erred in the late affair ; but it was not
fit for this Court'to arrogate to itself the right of
judging of their conduct,
Mr.'Alderman BIRCH said it was his intention to
propose an Amendment. Much had been said in
the course of 'this discussion, of the insult offered by
his Majesty's Ministers, but there had not been onit
word or admission as to the insult offered by thezir-
selves to the person_of their Sovereign—( Load cries
of Order! ordir) ! -
Mr. Favat,t. rose to call the worthy Alderman to
order.... Mr. Alderman Atkins rose at the same time,
amid tumultuous cries of “Orderl" and Chair !"
The Loan MAYOR said it was his anxious wish to
give every Gentleman a Nil and fair hearing, but it
was necessary to hear the arguments of Gentlemen,
before he could decide upon a point of order..„ -
Mr. Favau.• apprehended it was highly disorderly
to call an Address which had been agreed to by thiS
Court, and carried up to the foot of the Throne, an
insnit'to the Sovereign.
Mr. Sheriff WAIThMAV said, the worthy Alder,
man was entirely out of order; No disrussion could
take place.
After reply had been made, and the -Amend:
went dispoyed of,
Mr. Alderman Bina; contended, that the Ameid-
meat having been negatived, and the original motion
being the question now before the Court; he bad st
right, in proposing an Amendment,. to take all the
collateral circumstances into consideration- He sew
peated, that no admission bad been made bY this
Court as to the nature of .the Address.. They had
no right to notice a 'domestic circumstance, with
which this Court could have nothing to do—(Loasi
cries of Orcler)!
The LORD NIATOR thought, as the worthy Alder-
man was only expressing his own opinion, he Was at
liberty to pursue this line of -observation.
•Mr. Alderman Hilton continued. He did say that .
this Court had offered an insult•to the person of the,
Sovereign. They had interfered with the private
affairs-Of the Sovereign on the Throne.in a way in
which no individual in this conic %veld have dared
to intirfere with regard to an equal. His only sari;
prise was,-that the reply was so mild, and that it
had not gone much further. On these grxninds he
should move the previous question, -
Mr. S. Dtiosr seconded the motion.
Mr. PeA!tsoN-trusted the Court would not enter-
tain the Motion of the worthy Alderman-.-a Motion,
he believed, perfectly unparalleled, since, it called
ripen-them, in effect, to•talie no notice whatever of
his Majesty's answer. He (Mr, Pearson) could never •
consent to make himself a party to sach an insult
upon his Majesty, . .
Tht.previous question w4s ;co .upon a spew of
bands, and The original question was then put, and
carried by a great apparent majority. A division
Was called for; and the numbers appeared,
Poi the litotton,, 5 AVlennenl. 83 Osonlosemortisorn. is
4088tR, ‘indernien, 5j Cetemeepre,plcuses, -
fog. doe NV* Motionl o.—SbrAdveriiscopei,
• lite at belittles* of-the day wit then dilposed
Of; and the Court adjourned.

At the saws time this Court cinnpt refrain treat espeesslng
its pier and surprise that, in a period, of acknowledged d 1 culty,
and whew the voice of the Nation-ii roused against his Majesty's
Ministers, they should have ded to advise such a Reply to the
Nation of the Citizens of London; in which thug appearsto
be not only a uttal silence and neglect of their Complaints and

of their motives, and of the