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;ration. Tile
red, that if the
f
'nt labour tnr
t certainly be
try. The I-Ink
from the re.
The great,*
its, that s,ocv
o parties who
t beneficial to

ays of settling
lblic grant, or
ten any ,
where, oiler to
iividuals. Fnt
sed to be
t home. Thg
r. W. Horton!
lat he ohjeeted
ted in P:trlia:
in emigrating
and thus the
Any further
ght, only tend

Farthing of d it
; and if, as it
pay in kind, it

suppose
ants abroad, it
r expense Oa*
email. A great
laws, and that,
greet way tt)

that he wouli
means of te.
ve emigration.
ht Right lick
done hirma
the mantle: he

the population
Alen of laud by
e kad hinfielf
1, which rnight
3,0604 famed
• desired was,
sod abolish the
?le of Englaud

Inds in England
o►e we thought
neourAging the
he. thought we
Nicks. If there
by not transport
more years' im-
home ? As the
r the good meat

is of England,
!ady been culti-
should be car•
e pauperism.—
.ation existed in
treater or more
.he fact, than at
labouring men
tied men to the
per week.

king of the eau•
ngdom, and the
dvstress amongst
nserved, that if
would flow, into
yment would be
kur able Member
kneel' erected a
n which he had
ter of an acre of
had never found

doubts whether
tleman would te
e would look at
ut he feared the
more that insur-

Hon. Secretavr
ly to understand
it to re•introluce
.1 last Session ?

in with my Right
r addressed the
earlier attention
t the Passengers'
the Honourable
New Brunswick
a considerable
d be satisfied of
who arrived and
itagious disorders
devastated whole
instances, of not
The House will
legislate, to take
t each passenger
imudation for the
rage. True iC is
Act which ought
less or inappliea-
approaching, and
t those who may
,essions in North
tdition to benefit
nlony. With re-
migration, I feel,
coo much praise
. Friend, for tbF
town in the ',re-
present occasion,
tr other reasons it
to go into a dis-
lation is agreater
tdequate emplor
e may be others
tut attention: 01.

EAST RITFORD BILL.

. ,
Is pobsiote in any
that there should
without a corres-;
, hear.) Such 2
recated ; it is col/
other pa. ts of .the
to the ennigsation
ion !,hould pevi-
!tuplay mein else-
talent should be
ig the ernigratV•
opposition to the'
Tail be able to go
übject, and in the
,se Should receive

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*ll pb‘sihle information, and that it stoo!d be well cnn-'
As to dr.! Passengers' Art, I trust that it will
Tr,.•• with no resistance, and rh it it will be passed be
.•:e '"C5,el, proceed on their voyage with erbigrants in
the present season.—The Qlestion was diet) put and
car
Mr. WILNIOT•HORTON then moved for leave to
bring in a Bill to revive and amend an Act for regu-
lating vessels carrying passengets to foreign parts.
On the queinion being put,
Mr. HUME thought the Right Hon. Gentleman
should look at the Report of the Committees which sat
on this subject five years ago, before he brought in
his Bill. The House wantel further information on
the subject.

I Mr. HUSKISSON, in reply to the observations of the
.klonourab:e Member (Mr. Hume), observed, that from
A statement made by Sir J. Campbell, which he held in
•Iris hand, out of 160 passengers in the ship James, to
Halifax, five had died, and the remainder were affected
by the typhus fever; and that in a district where the
population consisted of 10,000 persons, 800 had died in
consequence of an influx of diseased Irish settlers. It
was therefore absolutely necessary, to prevent similar
'unfortunate occurrences, to enact certain regulations on
the subject—►particularly with respect to there being on
. board a suffisient supply of water, and a proper diet for
the passengers. On the passage to Rio Janeiro of one
'of the emigrant vessels from Ireland, great sickot-ss pre-
vailed, and in another mutiny occurred.
After a few words from Mr. STATILIY, Mr. WAMICRTON, Mr.
. IlosissoN, and Sit JAssas GRAVASI, leave was given to bring in

the Bill.
D. W. HARVEY moved for a Return of the number of
suhyttnas ad respondendum issued from•the Exchequer Office, as
also tt•e number of appearances which have beta entered during
the last sia years.—Ordered.

TEST AND CORPORATION ACTS.
Lied JOHN RUSSELL moved that the Order of the Day for
the receipt of the Report of the Committee on toe Test and Cor-
poration Acts be then read.
It was read accordingly. The IL-port was brought up, mid the
- ittaplutions of the Committee, that so much of the• Acts of the
13t1iof Chalks 11. the 25th of Charles 11. and the 16th of George
11, ts relate to the Sacrament of-the Lomo's Supper, should be re.
•: pealed, were then agreed to.
- Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved for leave to bring in a Bill, in
puravarice of these Resolutions. He should propose that the Bill
should be read a second time some day next week,and be committed
on Monday se'nnight.
Mr. MOORF. moved the second reading ct the Kilkenny (Ire-
..land) Chapel Bill.
, . Mr. GRATTAN suggested the propriety of postponing the Bill
for a fortnight, in order to afford time for the forwarding of infor-
-*nation by those who might be interested in the measure.
• The second reading was accordingly eventually postponed till
' Friday.
Mr. G. MOORE moved the second reading of the Irish Steam
Packets' Regulation
Mr. aUMIC suggested that the measure ought to extend to the

United Kingdom.
-
Mr. MOORS replied, that such point was a question for the
Cnanmium.
,Read a second time, and ordered-to be committed on Thursday.

The House again lesolved itself into a Committee
en the East Retford•Dbfranchisement Hilt On the motion of Mr.
..Tmessoe, Mr. it. Goanon was.called to the Chair. Several wit-
nesses were called before any appeared ; last ..
. .
Nathaniel Buxton answered. He was examined by Mr. Tenni-
son.—Witneas said he had been s freeman of East Retfurd thirty
years; he had certainly voted at.the last lour Elections. Ile did
- :me receive any Election Money at the Elections of 1807 and 1812.
%Ha did not know how that happened, except because they did not
...give him any—(A laugh.) Mr. Marsh's agent had promised him
• some, but forgot to pay it. In 1818,-there was 201. put in at.his
*Windt* :be would speak the truth. At another time he received
lorty-autneat, trr 1820; from Leadbetter (the bellman.) It was
-folded up; but there was no direction-on the paper.— Mr. Fulcham
,canvassed him fur the last.elecijoa, and said "all should be right."
Pe could not think what wasifheapt by that ; he bad often heard
the ispression lb Eist Retford, but he never, could tell what was
ineant,by it—tot labgh.) Thirty or forty other electors were there.
'He did-not know.*teether .others heard it they had ears to bear,
and might have bawd *1 bat he could not tell wheiher they under-
stood the word. .. • • ••
Examined by Doi. . did not get farthing for the
tketisn Ned; bat money hid been proimised. •
By Mr. O. WomersThe money bad not-been paid, and therefore
,4sqa4ctered tbat. a " lie" had been told.
William Grant was called, and examined by Mr. Tenntsoe—He
Mt never received any thing from Mr. Mason, the Duke of New-
castle's agent. He voted in the Duke's interest. He did not re-
mem any 'money from any candidate. lio'had malted money.
kg be eceild not say what sum. •
7.0.1Vki Alderman WAITH M AN said the witness should
be:tastioned not to pursue this evasive mode of an.
aoariog.d.(Hear). 1. • • • -
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The CHAIRMAN preised on the.witness the neces.
sitrof giving direct answers.
Wheces said he could riot remember the amount; he had re-1
catbird bot tke. sum he 'could not renieMber. After Mr.',
04beldeatone's election hureasked a present, but be knew nut fries,
whom it came. ,
y bir. FIRQUSON—He received presents on the occasions
sections-'he had never received such presents after elections...—
The presents were in bills or notes; be took care of them—" he
put them into practice."—(A laugh). He was repeatedly asked
whether he counted or reckoned the notes? but he gave no answer.
'The CIPIAIAMAII told the witness that last night they were obliged
to send a witness to Ilewgate for his evasion; if he persisted in his
anSweroir rather no-ansvier, the Committee would be obliged to
recommead the same course respecting witness.
Mr. Feeausom repeated his question in different shapes. Witness
said, it might have been U. or it might have been WI. He had
reeelved-money after different elections; he might have received
presents three different times, or four; he could not say in par.
ticsibr how much he had received at any one election ; there were
elections at_which he did not receive presents, but he could not tell
which—be bad not received apy present from Mr. Mush, for Mr.
IL gave no presents. He once received a present in London after
an election; it was given to him in the common street; he believed
is was in news, but he did not know how much it was—he could
not say whether it was one or twenty guineas; he koevethe value
of the notes he received tor his labour. Having been asked if he
loam Alderman Parker,
Mr. SYKES wished to know why that question,
should be put, as yet the House bad heard nothing of
Alderman Parker.
Mr. TENNISON replied. that he had put such ques.
lion because it had been intimated to him,•that Alder.
man Pallier (an Alderman of Retfcrd) bad been en-
gaged in the. Lobby in giving advice to the witnesses
against adducing that sort of honest evidence required
by the Howe.
Alderman WAITHMAN again spoke of the charac.
ter of the last witness's evidence. He would not recom-
mend his commitment ; but he thought if they did. not
commit him, their treatment of Fox would have bee!,
harsh, and they would be somewhat unmindfulof the
character of the House.
Lord NUGENT said he had never heard of Parkas,
but he thought there was the perfect right-to ask shoot
' any one if it were suspectedtbat the witnesses Lades
tampered,vrith.
'MTV F.-PALMER observed, that a more prevaricav,
thirwitners had never been at their bar than the else
just :examined. 'He had not given one straight forward'
answer. • _
Several Member Intimated that there was se r—'—
Nivea

the Committee. '2. & . .71 •2; • _ • !:. .1 • ; '
Mr. PALMED. said be:bad nude/its:Oa that there
was the. worthy- Aldernnan's'propositionisit the commit-
ment of the last witaess—(Gries so)i: 1...41!
Mr. Secretary PEEL remarked) that the worth/'
Alderman had 'only intimated that if this witaess•were
not conintiteed, fox would have been treated,with
harshness.
Mr. FERGUSON said bewould not defend the alt..
nirss's prevaricasinal. bet. allokanees ought cube made.'

consideting_his sittla•ion in life, as compared with that
of F. x.
• Mr: Secretary Peet, spoke to the like effect, as did
Lord NUGENT.

The witnels was nor recalled.
Mr.TENNISON said, though he h id upwards of 20
witnesses in attendance, he thought it would be, unne
cessai y to call further witnesses, and to multiply his
proofs.
Mr. G. BANKES said he should consider nothing as
proved, except Mr. Fulcham, the banker, who was al-
leged to have been the prime agent. was called. That
Gentleman was alleged to have used the words about
all right;" words which he had denied before the East
Retford Committee; and it was therefore important that
such Gentleman should be examined—(Heat).
Mr. FERGUSON observed, that last Session he was
against the Bill till further evidence should be adduced ;
but after what had been adduced, his opinion was corn.
pletely changed—he was quite satisfied the Bill ought
to proceed. _ _

Mr. Secretary PEEL said, the Hon. Mover (Mr.
Tennison) ought to pursue hienwn course, and close
when he thought he had made °id his case.
There were then cries of" Go en, go on."
Mr. SYKES said, if Mr. Fulcham, the banker, who
had been named, did not attend, there was satisfactory
reason for it; he was positively unable to attend, on
account of set i nos indisposition.
It was then stated, that other witnesses would be called.
Richard liodgkinson was called, and examined by Sir R. Wit..
sou—Witness said he bad bebn a freeman 21 years. After one
election he had received 20 guineas. He had seen Alderman Parker
(an Alderman of Ret ford) in the lobby, who said to hint—" Nu
witness was bound to commit himself."

Sir R. WILSON said it was hopeless to think of ful
filling their ii quisitorial powers, if such language were
41Inwed to br uttered with impunity.
Mr. TENNISON said, he had no hesitation in say-
ing, that now he should close hi; case, though he had
twentrone more witnesses in attendance. He should
then propose to commit the Bill pro forma, to hue
some amendments introduced, and to have it re com-
mitted on Monday next. In the mean time, if Counsel
Were to be heard, this would be the time for hear-
ing them.

Mr. G. BANKES had no objecti'm to hear Coun'el;
but he should reserve to himself the right to call other
evidence, if he so thought fit.
Mr. Secretary PEEL trusted that the Hon. Member
(Mr. Tennison) would not infer that the House was
satisfied wi.h the evidence adduced; he gave no opi-
nion, but he trusted that such inference mould not be
drawn; and he said this the more particularly as only
five witnesses had
.been examined, and the question of
sending to Newgatt had been raised on two of them.
Islr. TrIMISON then called tbelrown Clerk.

Edward Brown appeared at ititibir,:and stated that he was an
Attorney, residing at East-Berford. 1142 'was asked whether be
had ever received any erection alleinej.?" '
Witness hesitated for a short-time, and then appealed to the
Chairman whether he was bound to answer that question. The
wisreas having been ordered to withdraw,
The ATTORNEY GEnRAL rise trend said, that
the w imess was not. bound AO answer the question, if the
reply would tend to criminate him.
• -Sir ROBERT WILSON immediately rose, amidst
considerable commotion in the House, arid replied with
great warmth. He said he was astonished at what had
fallen from the Attorney Ge.reral; it might be law ill
the Courts; but it was not the 14w of Parliament—
(Cheers). He knew the law of Parliament, he thought,
quite as well as the Attorney General; on that point he
would not yield to such Law Officer; and he would add,
that if the House had not the power to enforce an
answer, there was an end of their functions—(Continued
cheers). The honour sod character of their proceedings
were involved in this question ; and if they were of
opinion that an answer ought not now to be required,
they owed an ample apology to Fox, whom they now
had in Newgate—(Hear). It was perfectly right in the
witness to ask permission of the House to answer ques-
tions, the reply to which might, in some degree, com-
-mit himself; but having obtained such permission, that
would shield him against all ulterior proceedings on
account of his answers. He strongly repeated, if wit-
nesses could be allowed to evade answers as they were
now sought to be evaded, there would be as end of
their functions.of those privileges which were exercised
for the maintenance of the liberties of all the people.
Mr. LITTLETON also declared that if witnesses
were not compelled to answer questions, there would
be an end of their inquisitorial functions. As to the law
of the subject; thes6 ignorance" shown by the Attorney
General was surprising—(immense cheer ing)—but even
that ignorance was trifling as compared with its ten-
dency to treat ,with contempt the- privileges of that.
House—(Continued cheering). If they did not enrol ce
answers, he should consider that they;wete guilty of gross
abandonment of duty—(Cheers).
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL complained of the
unfounded and wanton attack that hadjuit been mace
on him. Even the charge of ignorance was alleged to
be trifling, compared o ith his attack on the privileges
of the House. • He . would not reciprocate coarse lan-
guage in reply to the Honourable Member who had
'smarmed to charge him with " ignorance." Ile had
been longer a Member of the House than the Honour-
able Member for Staffordshire; but to such rustic coarse-
ness—(Loud laughter)—he should offer no reply. He
would say, that there was not a more independent
Member in the House than hm.elt ; and he would say,
that the. language of the Honourable Gentleman was
. rude, coarse, and ungentlemanly—(Loud cries of Hear,
from both sides of the House).
Mr. Pegs, Mr. LITrLITON, and Mr. Sedan Ewe, started up
together; the two latter gave way to
Mr. PEEL, who said he was sure the Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Litt.cton) had used language towards his Right
Hon. Friend (the Attorney-General) which, in his calmer
moments, he would not have done; and which naturally
excited the feelings of his Right Hon. Friend. On the
question before the House, he thought that the witness
should be called in, and informed that he must answer
the questions put to him, and that the House would
protect him from any penalty—(Hear, hear).
Mr. LITTLETON said he had not said any. thing
with the intuition of offending the Attorney-General,
or of exciting the ebullition of irascibility in which he
bad indulged.
Mr. HORACE TWISS said, he did not think the
House could protect the witness from the penalty of
bribery, as any two or three of its Members might be
summoned into a Court oflaw to give evidence of what
the witness had stated at the bar.
• TAO SPEAKER said, no Member would be justified
in giving evidence any where of what passed in the
„House. without the permission of the House—(Hear).
The witness was called in and informed, that lies must answer the
question, and 'hit- he-would be protected. • '
The hues...said, that after the elections of 1818 and 1820, he
rgeeivg4 wont,. About sib weeks alter the election of 1818, two
Jetta/ came to* house, each of which contained 204 Alter the
arable of 1826, two letters came to him in the same way, each
'containing 201. He understood the money to be electiori money.
practice of giving such money to the lower freemen was

SeitgX4 . .
• •
By Mr. kaat.—He was at that tittle a lower ckrk in the house
In which he was nu a partner.
Dy WiLsos.—Tirere were about 20 voters In East Ret.

ford; about 120 received money. When Sir Henry Wright Wil-
son came to East itettord, witness told him the lower freemen were
in the habitof taking nieney. lit replied," I'll do what's just and
right, and nothing else." Ile understood Sir Henry to mean, that
he would nut give any money, and hr so explained it to the elector..
Ahout thirty-six freemen hive been appointed since 1820. lie
does not ki.ow of any money having been paid at an election since
then. There were foity electors at the last election who did not
receive money.
The witness was ordered to withdraw.
Jonathan Benkes called in and examined by Mr. Tennison—
Witness has been a freeman of Retford 20 years, ..nd has been
bailiff. He is a smith and farrier, and has received money after
several elections ; about three times. He received money after Mr.
Evans and Crumpton were returned. Two letters were put into
his house late at night, there were 20 guineas in each. The election
before he received a letter with 20 guineas. He believed it came
from Mr. Crompton; he received another letter soon after with
20 guineas front Mr. Evans. At the election, in 1812, he applied
for his election money, but did not get it. They said he was nut a
staunch blue.—The witness was ordered to withdraw.
William Hodson called in and examined by Mr. Thomson—Witness has been a burgess of Retford 20 years. He had received
money after different elections, he could not say exactly how often.
He could not say how much.
The CHAIRMAN cautioned the witness, that the House bad power
to send him to Newgate if he did not answer the question.. It
was the custom at Retford to make presents to the freemen after
the election, but it was not for their votes. He received 201. front
each candidate at two elections.
The witness was then ordered to withdraw.
Robert Appleby examined by Mr. Ternason.—Witness is a
Burgess of Retford ; and has lived there all his life. He has re.
ceived election money after the elections at Retford. After the
election in 1820, two letters came to his house, with twenty
guineas in each. Mr. Evans and Mr. Crumpton had been returned
{refute, and he received the saute sums then. After the election of
1812, he also received a present. Witness is a miller, and an Al-
derman of Retford. tie forgets whether he received any money
at the tared in 180. When an elector at Retford is canvassed
for his vote, and told " right," it means that be is to 'get forty
guitieas.—Trie witness was ordered to withdraw.

- William Clarke examined by Mr. Taloasoti—Witness had been
a burger, of Itrtford thirty years, and is an Alderman. After the
election of 1818 a person hr did not know came to his house, and
left a packet which contained. forty guineas. He has heard that
presents of twenty or forty guineas are usually made to the free-
men. After the election of he received twenty guineas on
account of ,Mr. Evans.—The witness was ordered to withdraw.

JutephWarreck examined by Mr. Trauttisoti..—Witneas lives near
Retford. At the election of 1807, Mr. Peddisun, the Duke of
Newcastle's ...Veward, who. W 36 witness's uncle, gave him about 50
packets, which he left at the houses. of freemen in Retford. lle
believed they contained n,o
The witness was ordered to withdraw.

William Ledbetter, etasniited by Mr. I. Woon.—Witness is a
burite-s of Retford, aud voted in 1612,1818, and 1820 ; he received
nothing at any of tae elections; never one farthing, nor any of his
family; he never told Mr. Newton chat he had received money;
he never heard that a single fartbing was :lynx to any elector of
Retford for voting at the election, nor after it. •
The witairas was ordered to withdraw, and a Member desired
that he should be detained.
Wm; Newton ex &mined by hlr...f. Woon-i-Withese is a clerk to
an attorney at Retford, but pot a freeman. He has heard many of
the. freemen say that they had received money after the election.—
He had heard the last witness say that he had received the election
money in 1812,1 u 1818, and in 1820. Witness was not employed
at the last. election;, witness was, employed to procure witnesses
against the Borough of Reified ; he went round to get a petition
signed, praYing to have the elective franchise extended to the in-
habitants; •he was not employed to get up evidenee..but acted from
the impulse of his own mind; a Committee was formed in Retford
since the last election for the purpose of .obtaining information,
and assisting to put an eqd...th the cmcupticin that so long existed in
Ret ford.
The witness was ordered .to withdraw.

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Ledbetter was again called in, and the.evidence given.bythe last
witness was read over to him. He was then examined by .Lord
Nooses., and persisted in saying that he never received any election
money, nor ever admitted that he-had received any. He was not.
spoken to by any one respecting the-evidence he was to give,to the
House. None of his family ever received any election Money for
him nor any other Naluahleteomniodlty.• • • '• '
The witness was ordered to witbdraWAst not to leave the House.
Hodson was recalled and examined, and persisted in his former
statement, that he had not seeeleed any money ifter the elietions.
The House resumed. tThe enstalisse teportrd ptogrest, and
asked leave to sit again on Thiirsday...:.iLeavegiven. '
Lord ALTHORP, in the absence. of Lord. JOHN
. .
Russw., brought up a Bill for the repeal of the Corporation and
Test Act:.—head a first time, ,nil 'wane(' to be read a wood
time on Friday se'anight.
Lord ALT HOR P said, It erits.the Intention that. the Bill should
be committed on the Monde.), after the second reading.
Sir MATTHEW W. RIDLEY moved for a Return of all the
Country Bankers' notes stamped in the years 1824, 1825, 1826,
1827, and the amount of composition paid by the Bank of England
for the same period, in lieu of Stamp Duty.
Mr. THOMPSON moved for a Return of all the Grain and

Flour shipped from all the Ports of England, Scotiaml, and Ireland
for the last four years; and an Account of all ihe.Grain and. Flour
imported into all the Ports of England, ScOtland, and Ireland, in
the same prriod.—Ordered.
The other Orders of the Day were disposed of, and the House
adjourned-at a QUA.KTIR PAST 011 Z O'CLOCK. •

•
COURT, OF ALDERMEN.,
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• •
Yesterday the Loati"blitoa held a Cooft of Alder-
men at Guildhall, for the dispatch, of. public Imioess,
which was fully attendei.
. The Petition of M. FRANCIS, Falai against the election of Mr.
Jamas Ilicuaaosott, as Common Councilman for the Ward of Crip-
plegate Within, was withdrawn by. the Petitioner. • • •
The, Court proceeded in• the comideraton- of- the Petition of
Messrs. SAUL to be admitted to the freedom bUthe. City whet the
Hon. C. E. Law wacheard as Counsel owtheir behalf; and after
lailieracionshereon, the Court agreed- to the same, theytaking the
Ustial treasuTel,for
,sucbadmissiuna-
" The Court Ulso agreed to rescind their former Standing Order-re.
Wise to the admission of baptized Jews to the freedom of the City._,
Mr. F. 13. k)ocutsar was,edssaitted and sword Deputy is- the
I Comptroller of the Chamber.
The new By Laws for the regalation of the Watertnen 'and
Lightermen of the River Thames were. ordered to be laid before the
Judges for their approval.
Sundry persons were• sworn, and others•allowed to be brokers of
the

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