Star.
London, England, 1816-02-23 00:00:00

Loitus Or sEssinst.

• Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, that on the 20th of
last April the House agreed to an Address to his
Royal Highness the Prince Regent, praying that he
would be graciously pleased to give directions to the
Lords of the Court of Session in Scotland, to lay
before the House an account of all the Fees and Du-
ties paid or payable to the Clerks of the Ordinary
Judges in the Court of Session, from the institution
of the Courts of Justice down to the Ist of August,
1789, as also all acts cf setkruni issued by the same
Court down to the • same period. On the 25th of
April a most gracious answer was-communicated to
the House, stating that his Royal Highness had
given directions accordingly. No return, however,
making its appearance, another Address was agreed
t on the 24th of May, praying that his Royal High-
ness would be graciously pleased to order that the
account should be laid belore the Hoene forthwith.
Another gracious ansxer was received, purporting
that his Royal Highness would give the necessity
directions. But although the Sesssion of Paili.i.
mint continued until the twelfth of July, the
Lords of Session did not think proper to lay the
required statement on the Table of the House.—
This neglect he stronyty reprobated, and it was with
a view of asserting the authority of the House, and
of convincing every Court in the United Kingdom,
that when the House requited the production of Pa.
pers, it was that Court's bounden duty to produce
them, that he should now move .06 That an humble
Address be presented to his Royal Highness the
Prince Regent, stating chat on the 20th of April
last, &c. etc. (here the object of the original motion
was repeated), humbly representing to his Royal'
Highness, that although the Session of Parliament
did not terminate until the 12th of July, the Papers
were not Lid on the Tabie of the House, and pray.
ing therefore that his Royal Highness would be gra.,
ciously pleased to give directions-that they should be
presented forthwith, together with a statement of the',
reasons, if any can be assigned, which induced the
Cutut of Session to fail in conforming to the &rec.,
tions of his Royal Highness the Prince-Regent, ex-
pressed in his gracious answer to the Address of the
House." He was the more suspicious, as to the'
motives of the delay, because he well remembered
-that on a former occasion great reluctance had been
manifested by the Court of Session to produce a re-
turn required by the House, which return, when it
WAS produced, proved that the Court bad set at
nought an Act of Parliament. He was afraid that
the person at the head of the Court of. Session had
not forgotten the doctrines which he broached when
he was Lord Advocate, and that he did not know to
what his powers extended, or where they terminated.
Mr. W. DUNDAS declared,' that if he thought
the Court of Session had any disrespectful intention
towards that House, he would be the last man to de-
fend them, but he was convinced that that w.ts run
the case. The fact, he believed, was, that the Ho-
nourable Baronet, not satisfied with having in 1814
moved the appointment of a Commission to inquire
into the subject, in 1815 made the motion which the
House was now called upon to enforce, and that the
Court of Session Conceived that it would be suffici-nt
to submit the required automation to the Commis-

oen, Ai to the Ads or &Arno', MsNA l
inen made by the Court, wily :tad ow; 1..
no return. He allowed Om it might
bmter had the C tart of Se i
`s- Teturn,j „'
the order of the House : hot he w.ta pettuit.
there was no intentional di.resit •ct
therefore,t..rii
wished,r that the H onuribi ' „;;
wodd erase those cens..riotts expo-won, it
n
tion which had a tendency to degrade I
and he had further to state, on the andluti,
Right Honotv able Friend of his, the ti, ,4114
t,try of State fur the FL:me Dep•tromns
,nme accident or other, the second Addr,s„.l missed its way, and never re.ech:d eat,'
office. re

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Mr. HORNER, while he expressed hiss
at the last circumstance mrnitiimed by I
able Gant-tem:in, allowed that it tettl,d
great part of the odium Dom the C0,,1t
He however denied the accu, ars. of the ' •
Gnntlennati's statement, that there hid .
Act of Sakrunt on the part of t•le, colt;
10-1,
ing that there had heen an Act 1::e
mrntingthe Fees of the CI Tics, Art:l tft.tt a
to that eff:ct ought to have Le an in ide to tbe
by the C
Mr. WYNNE thought the dignity of
implic ited in this subjezt. lie was at '4 Iwci
ceive how the second Address of aCt RlVitta
have missed its way to the proper rLCC t•
,ijrelenting to tha journals, he t t1ie31.4 111
of his Royal Highness the Priace item 4
Mr. 13ROUGH.‘ olrierved that this%
matter of ordinari importance, inuArtogille.
qui nor ial function, of !Parliament wiiich
s,:rupuluisly guarded. He hoped it woolitti,
ac the Honourable Gentleman opparteeepj.:
cat vittion it would be
af.nitdt idn,ntthiant
;lest of the C•iurt of Seirs,sii:iinsitionardi4: rcise:p,
pension on pant of the learned pt.n,4
in a distaste (1t
Jthige► of that Court,
4T4Citt
House of Cominons—not in that ific• I .flce of ti
whi indocttl them to consider t:tstraeir.s
free from Parliamcntary contloill,, at tile 4,01
which they sat from the seat of Legiiimit%
times happened in Courts of Justice, 64114 44
severe sarcasms were uttered against the mjqiel
functions of the Legislature. By some goad
ti
tune, however, those expressions had bean isve4
allowed to pass without notnee. When x pivot
ventured to say any Olin., against the es 3.1 a,
Parliament, he was visit!) by an iaip.,,,altl
three months ; hut when p-rsons !.0 in 0tE..4;,1
the most important in of the 1...0f,
it was to maintain the r ghts of eve' y Sra.ctrtt:
Constitution, spoke with freedom i•f the pricha
that House, they did so with perfect impunity.
Lord CASTLEREAGH condemned M
pitatiou with which the I-I:mem-able and Lon
G:ntleman had taken an opportatii:y to inic
charg .5 against ernini in individuals, by no ere
convicted of having treated the orders ut thnt/N

with disrespect. It appe tied that they migtr
entertained a misronception with resiwt to tie
order, and that the second, in f.robebility,
reached them. It was for the 11w:se, una;e6
circumstances, to c wit_ diet they w 001,1...
eofiirce an immediate c ,mphanee ill the orLte,
go be) ond the necess,ty of the case. andassoce.
disrasp.:ct had heen sheven, where, tronitherap.
able chit- Aver of the Le toed Body in Ire*
could not be supposed to be entertained, ni6
no motives could ex's, for withholding detect
information. In his view of the subject, tie
nourable and Learned Gentleman's addrins •
House did not seem to be :n t'te true spirit oh)
valence ; and he trusted th .t the louse sex,:
prefer a course calculated ts) re 1. et on a
body of individuals, and ebe to iliminisktla
t!iority which it was the duty of Pailiamrotto
tain. He hoped the Hoiioor:b:e Barone,
purpose would thereby ba atewere,f, wotdk.
duced to shape Iris motion in the way bF. (
Castlereagh) had suggested.
Sir J. NEWPORT ohs:rived, Ilia the
Lord seemed to think that it would be qua
cient if the House got the papers. He (Sir J.
pont) was by no means of that opitiion. He •
that the I-louse were boutol to inquire, vif.
papers were not produced last year ?
was due to the authority of Parliament. His
pose, therefore, would not .be answered by gr.
the Parrs. His purpose was to get the pare.
to know why they had not sooner been prnd
and where the blame lay it It had been saiddie
second Address missed its way to the proper i•
How was this statement to be reconciled with tket
that an Answer from his Royal Highness to the
dress appeared in the Journals ? It his alio feu
that the Court of Session imagined •hat therm
communicate the information required to Oa
mission previously appointed. No Cuero ci •
ever rank, had a right to a discretion on soda'
ject, but were boun%' to obey the orders 0111.°
ment. He would not forego any part tit hat
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that he 41
objection whatever to the clause in the Hair
Baronet's motion requiring the reasons iba:
occasioned the delay, in complying with thee'
of the House. The expressions he objected to
those which, without any knowledge int the pe
the House of these reasons, described the delara
offence. .

Mr. W. DUNDAS moved, as an Amer,'
to leave out all the words of the HotrurAble
net's motion after the words " together witl!,"
the purpose of substituting the followieg—" 114
sons that delayed the return of the atorati3Pa
Mr. PONSONBY observed, that MO
deny the propriety of his Honourable rr.cad's
ing on a prompt obedience to the or.'rrint
ment. At the same time he thought it nilo
well to omit any expressions implying Leasure,
the cause of the delay should be ascertained.
Sir J. NEWPORT then said, that he had co
jection to the alteration, pleAting himself tuft.
motion on the return made by the Court e
should it prove unsatistactory. The ow'.
amended by Mr. W. Dundas, was then agr!edt4
Sir JOHN NEWPORT moved that a Itert:,l
laid before the House of the Return of H..,
riages, and Servants given to t Caectot)
Revenue in Ireland, as disco.ttintwi !or the
On the motion of Mr. CROKEIL C
was appointed to search the Journals of

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