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iv) neuter, in that event, the now Aver coinage was
Litt likely kite melted down ? Every One MCA ri
**ober the fate of the Bank Dollars upon an ep..
luineement of the price of Silver, and the ttecessity
which the Bank felt of issuing three subsequent
totent, bf comparatiyely less 'intrinsic ralue—there-
• fore it behoved the Hodge to ioniider the fate of the
hew Coinage, upon is .probableirhie *is the price of
Silver: He called upon their Lordships toinquire,
before they crinsented in idopt such a measure. If
the Noble Lord woula 4uote aulhbritiel in support of !
his iikeis, be (Lord Lauderdale) pledged himself w'
bring forwaid Orally high authorities. in favour ot
an opposite opinion. He had no doubt, indeed. of!
'being able to adduie Several Most intelligent meh at
the Bar of the House, to demonstrate the ‘ineipe-
dieney of the Noble Lord's course of proceeding, and
that paPei• must soon resume its relative value with
otir metallic currency. With respect to the Noble.
Earl's allusion to the Copper Coinage, the fate of the
cb hrge of 1797 was well known—that as the cop-
per was soon of mere value than the Coin, it became
. necessary to issue a coinage of much less intrinsic
value, and a similar consequctice would,'he had no
doubt. follow from the present measure. But as to
the Silver in circulation he submitted, that indemnity
was due from Parliameut to the holders of the pre-
sent currency, of whatever nature it might be, espe-
cially considering that the ezistence of such a cur-
rency was owing to the conduct which Parliament
irse.t had pursued for years back. 'Therefore, he
ught, that aitli a view; to cotisidet the mode of
retillio: that indemnity, it would beconie that House
iud the other House also, to appoint a Committee
rtt feydry—for otherwise many poor people were but
too likely to suffer from the state in which the toun-
fey had been so long left by the conduct of Parlia-
ment itself, especially in not supplying the public
an adequate quantity of proper Silver Coin.—
Now, he had to appeal td the Noble Mover upon his
own principles, what was to be expected front issuing
,u new Silver Coinage, comparatively superior in in-
triosic value to the Bank tokens, with which it was
to be accompanied ? But on the whole his wish was
that the adoption of this measure should be post-
poned• until the currency of the country should be-
come somewhat settled by the restoration of cash
payments by the Bank. The Noble Mover had hint.
self stated a reason which obviated any inconvenience
it -m the delay he proposed, by alledging that the
whole of the new Silver Coinage necessary, might,
through the improved machinery at the Mint, be
prepared within a very few months.—(Near,hear,)
Therefore a metallic currency might soon be pro.
viled to supply the place of paper, at a, time coo
*hen metal might be bad at the cheapest rate, and
when it would nut be likely to rise in price Ales-
*Jrds. As to the metal proper to be settled as the
standard of value, if the Noble Mover thought pro-
p. r to fix upon gold, he (Lord Lauderdale) SAW no
reason why there should be any Mint 'Coinage of
Silver, or why individuals should not be left to coin
shillings and sixpences for circul.itioni according to
their inuinsic value, without making them a legal
ttuder, just as private tokens were issued some time
ago. The gohle Lord concluded with proposing
the following Amendment, to be inserted atter the
Word 66 that" in the original Addressa
" Assuring his Royal Highness that this House has taken*,
its moat serious coustdenetien his Royal Highness's Mee. OS
the subject of the new Silver Coinage ; and that they froth tench
duty respectfully to state to his Royal Highness, that the sup.
premise of the Silva Coin now in circulation must be attended
with great expense, and cannot be effected without serious in-
irenoessience, and infinite lois to the lower orders of the comma-
likyt and that it appears to them in the highest degree uncertain
whether the country will derive. any benefit from the measure,—
' Ow they must entertain the greatest doubts concerning; the new
coin remaining cur any length Of time iu circulation, under the
piano circumstances of this country, in relation to its currency.
That this Hearn learns, from the authority of the Legisia.
owe in the recatubla to the Asa of the Pith of George U. chapter
46th,that ao Act made in the *Ph year of her late Majesty Queen
An s, foe us:enabling the rate of foreign coin in her Majesty's
Ash, rum plantations hat been entirely frustrated by the crea-
tion el great quantities at paper bills ; and that they feel it, there-
fore,* duty, humbly to represent to his Royal Highness, that ft
is io.po.uhle fur them not to fear that any regulation his Royal
Highness may be adetsed to adopt cone.eruing a new Silver
Coinage fur this country, may, in like manner, he rendered of no
a a.i, %%bast die Bank of England, as well as 642 other Banking
E t,:bitalutights, bevos right to increase the paper currency et die
reuuory to any extent whfch their respective interests may lila;
der desirable.
" That this House thhtk It further necessary humbly to express
NSW* lint at H sham their extreme eurprise, that this measure
ssiould have been suggested by his Royal Highness's Advisers, at
a' moment when they must be conscious that, by persuading
Parliament to provide great part of the Ways and Means fee the
etpeodintre gibe year, by advance from the Bank of England,
they have ihruisised an opportunity and an inducement to that
tioreporation to it crease their paper to such an extent as must, in
coney: rem with that of others, in all probability boded from
circulation the new Coin, which they are advhlng his Earl
II ghness to issue.
" that, under these circumstance*, this Horse Alt ei Slaty
dry owe to themselves to the public, and to his Stowe altltb;
bras humbly to implore his Royal Highness to pompano
though:a of providing a new and extensive issue of silver celestes
the purpore of reconsidering a measure of so much importance,
and o' Maturely.deliberating whether, at a moment ofilids Ri M.
chit diluent, it is justifiable to impose such a tank. an' bil•
pe.tple, more erpeciaely es ht mint by all be tleefeeil at least uaeNb
tain whaler it can be attended with any benefit to the'conalifoge
nay, if canted into execution during the coutinuar.ce of the no
unction oaf cash payments at the Bank of Bashi:id."
The Larl of LIVERPOOL. rose, he said, not to
reargue the quo scion, but to speak to a matter of
fact. The cost of the new silver coinage was esti.
mated at 5e500,000 ; but the Noble Lord had thought
proper to estimate it at 89,600,000. Now he the
Nag of Liverpool) could not imagine upon what
ground the Noble Lord rested an estimate so incom-
patible with the actual amount of our silver currency.
For the whole cf the silver coinage of King William
was about six millions, and with the exception of a
serail quantity in tl:e reign of Queen Anne, there had
once noun toutly been no stiver coinage whatever.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE observed, that his
estimate rested upon that of the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, wt o a, peared to calculate that only one
out of twenty shillings in circulation was not of the
soinage of the Mint, whereas he (the Earl of Lau.!
derdale) took the more probable calculation, that' 19'
oat of 20 were of that description. But most likely
the Chancellor of the Exchequer was as much in
germ in this case as he ups in Liti Budget, in omitting
shall Transport Service, mad two whams .and a bah,
ot• grants. •
' 'f,be Earl of LL.VERPOOL iwexplanation, •
said,
'shot no data Were stated for estimating the cast Gt
the new coinage at Iftoo.ooo. •
'lse Ast.endment was negatived, and the original
a division.- kdjouraed.

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Mr. HUSKIHION moved Isglkatilb Writ w tits room of the
Right Moveable George Cassia,. he Wag sister hk elealeo
acce?ted the office or First Conimissioniir tar dm Albin of India
Mr. LYrl3-10 ON espreeisd hie imp** at then sune taken
by the Han. Member, in making the modes so adj. and with
to skin an attendance of Members. He maw be aware that such
an appointment must manually fiChe inquiry, and he would
&wear, %aspic the propriety of deterring the motion till a later
Wind in the itecal! •
Mr. HU`KISSOK sabis lie ad not see the necessity foe such
pompom:nat. It trauma unesatii thing for Members of that
House to accept offices ander Government. and span such accept.
aver, it was usual to move a new writ inuardiately. writ
was (ben ordered accordingly:
ROMAN CATHOLICS.
Sir H. PARNELL rose to present a Petition from
the'Bishops and Clergy professing the Roman Ca-
tholic Religion in Ireland, expressing their surprise.
and regret at the restrictions iatencled to be smr
posed upon their future nominatjons, io the event of
Catholic Emancipation being granted: The Hon.
Baronet dwelt at some length upon the exemplary
character of the Catholic Clergy in Ireland, and ob-
served, that they were no less remarkable for their
loyalty and zeal'as faithful subjects, than for their
highly moral and decorous habits. He added, that
with a view to bring under the attention of the Horne
some of the disabilities which oppressed the Irish Ca-
tholics, he should, on Thursday next, move for a
Committee to take into consideration all the different
Petitions which had been presented this Session upon
the subject ; and in that Committee be proposed to
submit certain Resolutionifthe object of which would
be, to obtain for the Catholics that minor degree of
relief which would be afforded by opening to them
those offices and privileges which, it had been ad-
mitted, on a famer occasion, they might safely re-
ceive. He then moved that the Petition should be
brought up.
deueral MATHEW took that opportunity of rec-
tifying some misstatements which had been made in
the public Papers (Unintentionally, no doubt). as to
what be said on a former evening, when the Catholic
Claims were discussed. In the first place, his voyage
to Rome had no connection whatever with the Veto,
still less to obtain the sanction of the Pope to that
measure. He was in fact, against it, on two grounds:
as a Protestant he was against it, because he thought
it would tend to increase the power ot the Crown,
which was already too great a and, secondly, as
. well-wisher to the Catholics of Ireland. He was
convinced there was not one man in a thousand in
Ireland who approved of the Veto. The other point
upon which be had been misrepresented was, as to
the securities which the Catholic Body was disposed
to give. What he said was, that they would grant
every security hi unison with their Bishops and Clergy,
and that was proved by the Petition now before the
House.
Colonel BARRY doubted whether the House
could receive the Petition, inasmuch as it professed
to be from persons who called themselves the Bishops,
and not the titular Bishops of Ireland.
Sir J. C. HIPPTSLEY urged the same objection,
and referred to a clause in a statute of the 23d Geo.
11. which, he conceived to be still in force, and
rectly hostile to the Petition. He had consulted calm
authotities likewise, and did not see bow the House,
could receive the Petition, consistently with its duty.
Sir J. NEWPORT contended, that the Act of
1793 did away the obnoxious parts of the statute
cited by the Honourable Baronet. He condemned
the practice of searching through the penal provisions
of former statutes, to revive feelings of animosity
against the Roman Catholic Clergy. He thought it
Would be affixing a stigma upoit them, it they rejec-
ted the Petition, and declared his intention ot taking
the sense cf the House, though he should stand alone.
Sir J. C. HIPPISLEY explained.
Mr. L. FOSTER said, he bad looked at the Act
and the Petition, and saw no objection to its bring
received. If the Petitioners had assumed the tides
of their different Sees, that would have been a ground
of objection. But they merely sived their Christian
and surnames, without assuming any such titles.
Sir J. NICHOLL observed, that the Petitioners
did not even assume the appellation of Bishops of
Ireland, but simply Bishops professing the Roman
Catholic religion.
Sir H. PARNELL replied, when the Petition
was brought up. read, and ordered to lie on the table,
after a few words from Mr. PRESTON.

Sir H. PARNELL then gave • regular notice of
the motion which he had intimated in the course of
his observations.

VARGIM NOTIL

General THORNTON rose, pursuant to notice,
to move for an account of the expenses incurred by
the Bank of England,. in prosecuting persona for
issuing forged Notes, &c. during the last four years,
from the Ist January, 412, to Ist January, 1816.
He observed that, according to return, made to that
House, forged notes to the amount of £lOO,OOO had
been refused. payment 'by the Bank, which most pi!.
a cessarily be great evil to the public.
. Mr. THORNTON said, he did not percel4a the,
utility of the motion, compliance With which would
necessarily be attended with great trouble and delay.
Tue motion was then negatived without a division.

PltartaTY TAX.

Mr. BROUGHAM to.postpone a motion of
an Honourable Friend of his, which stood for that
day, respecting certain papers cornected with the
West Indies. Particular business had required his
Friend's absence from town, for eight or ten days ;
but he hoped to be able to-monow to fix the•day for'
bringing it on. The Honourable and Learned Mem-
ber then proceeded to a Motion of which he bad him-
self given notice, for the destruction of the papers,
returns, &c: made up under the late Property Tax
Acts, so far as they contained the names and designa-
tions of individuals. •He said it sold not be neces.
'aary'for him to trouble the House with any observe-1
`fiats, because the Right Honourable Gentleman was
disposed to accede substantially to the object of his
motion. He should only wish to hear Irons that
Right Hunoinahle Gentleman, the mode which be
intended to adopt.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
observed, that with regard to returns already made
to the T.sx (Mier, directions bad been given to erase'
ti.e names, and that: all dime whien had not bean sent
in yet, instinction: wait issued to make. them up
blalit, I..trotg La aututitt Mite instead ut the nattle

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eilweiled blind* imaildef
"tithed so far as •retateti io the vomit'
.oth 'item to be salit in blank ; but doubted'
dune which Were &tidy is the Tax Office, and were
to hare the .names erased only, would be so com-
pletely obliterated as it was hi. wish they should be.
• The CHANCELLOR of the -EXCHEQUER
said a few words in esplanation.
Mr. ROSE brought up a farther Report of the
Leather Committee. Ordered to lie on the table.