Star.
London, England, 1819-10-11 00:00:00

one Man upon the lack and shoulders. The man lei from him
in the why I did. I did not know whether be followed or not,
he was getting away.
Blr a AuTelan—Do you know Cabinet Fletcher?
tnem—Yes, very wall.
Mr. Haaania--I wbh to call Mr. Buckley, who was before
4otamined, to a new fact. It appears that one of the Cavalry
has told him who it was that Bred she platoL
Costairs—Where will this end, if witnesses who have been
.ermined are to be called a second time?
Mr. Ilsanom.-Besides, if Mr. Buckley be called to a new
fact, I shall feel it my duty to trouts/mine him upon the whole
of ids evident%

Mr. Hamra—Undoubtedly, if you wish. I believe Mr.
Buckley was not croies.uamined before.
Coaouta—My only objection is, that it is a procrastination of
the business of the Court.
The Comma, to a Reporter—How long have you been
taking notes ?_

Reporter—Since the opening of the Court this morning.
Cm/oxen—Do you not know I have directed that no notes
skuuld be taken ?
Reporter—t took notes yesterday in your view, and you did
not prevent me. On one occasion I perceived you looking at
me, and I held up my book. in order to ascertain if I had your
permission. You did nut say any thing. I concluded you had
no objection to my taking notes.
Coaossa--What is your name?
Reporter—l gave my name.
Coronet—You are here for The Times?
Reporter—l am net, Sir.
Cotton= (looking sharply at him)—l think you are.
Reporter—lnssure you, Sir, I am not.
Commas—For what Paper, then, are you writing ?
Reporter—For The Morning Chronicle.
Comma—Are you not aware that I forbade any notes bong
taken for The Morning Chronicle ?
plat°Reporter—I perfectly recollect your order, but as I wan
so near you yesterday, and yet not prevented froattaking
notes, I concluded I would be allowed to do so to-day abs.
Mr. Ilaaaow—l remember him, Sir, he is one of those whom
you prevented from taking notes at Oldham.
Conoma—You are a very impudent man, Sir; you shan't
take any more notes, nor shall you remain in Court. I order
you out of Court.
Reporter—l stood for a moment or two, and then putting
my book in my pocket, resumed my seat. The Coroner did
not repeat his order.
Mt. Hamm—Now that we are on the subject of Papers,
Sir, may I beg to call your attention to The Courier London
newspaper. In a copy of that Journal, which I now hold in
my hand, I find two columns of comments, and of a very im-
proper nature too.
Coacoaa—l have nothing to do with comments. If you
show me any Reporter who publishes the evidence given in this
Court I will prevent him.
Mr. Haanco--ar, the comments to which I allude are most
improper. They are made upon the Jury. There are people
now sitting at this table, who send to The Courier accounts of
what passes in this Court.
Concocts—Nat= dawn; prove to me that they do so, and
will prevent it.
Mr. Haws—They are Mr. Cooper and Mr. Radley, and I
challenge them to deny the fact.
Mr. Cooper—l never sent a note of what has passed here in
evidence to any Paper.
Mr. Radley said nothing.
Mr. Harries--Then, Sir (to Mr. Cooper), you have sent
comments, and very improper ones, too—you have sent com-
ments upon the Jury.
Mr. Baanow—There is a very improper letter from Mr.
Harmer in The Star of last night.
Mr. Cooper admitted his having sent letters, bet denied haw.
int written any comments upon the Jury.
Mr. Haunts read an extract from The Courier, where it was
said that papers had been privately distributed among the Jury,
who were men pro-disposed to receive bad impswadens.
' Cowmen—Mr. Harmer you first say that Owdlemen here
timid reports of the proceedings ; next, that they swill emmenes
upon those proceedings. lam sorry to find that yen were vrell
Sivrawith the distribution of the papers alluded to.
4ltssusea—l, Sir ! I deny it, and I challenge this Court
to prove its assertion. lam anxious to meet Inquiry : let not
this charge rest en mere assertion.
Cononea--We had it from your own mouth yesterday.
Mr. lialtatia—ar, I again positively deny that I made any
Eh admiselott, or that Iliad. any knowledge of such paper
itik been circulated. I yesterday add, that an insinuation bad
n on a former day thrown out of my too great freedom with
the Jury ; and when the mars were mentioned by Mr. Ash-
worth, I explicitly declared that I knew nothing of then.
Coawnx—You said those insinuations were thrown out by
sir. Barrow and myself.
• Mr. Hasusen—l know not whether by Mr. Barrow or Mr.
Aildworth, but they were certainly hinted at by you.
Branow--I declare that I never threw out any such in-
sinuation.
Mr. Denison—l declare that I beard Mr. Barrow utter that
insinuation.
Mr. Boausow—l declare the contrary, and I think my word
as good as that of Mr. Denison.
Mr. Mauna rose again to vindicate himself from the charge
against him, but was ordered by the Coroner to sit down ; the
latter, shaking his head, said he knew more than he wished to
mention.
Mr. Hamra—State all you knew, Sir; I am anxious to meet
any charge which can be brought against me ; but pray do not
go as throwing out groundless insinuations.
a Cononxis said, be would not hear Mr. Harmer any fur-

tber, except on the evidence.
[lt is but justice to Mr. Has Was to state, that he yesterday
positively and distinctly declared his ignorance of any papers
having been circulated among the Jury.]
The examination of evidence was then proceeded in.
Elisabeth Rayburn sworn. I live at No. 1, Watson-street ;
we never had any thing like guns or pistols in our house since I
became a housekeeper. Nobody could get upon our roof to
throw stones or to fire. My door was locked, and the panels
of the door were driven into the middle of the kitchen, then
they fired a gun into the room window over the kitchen. A sol-
dier fired, the bullet passed through my winßow. I did not
then open the door myself, but a young man wholodges with us,
did. Then the soldiers and constables same into the house. The
Serjeant got hold of the young man, and pointed his sword, and
said, a you rascal you have been throwing stones." The young
man said, he never had touched one, or seen one. Then the Ser-
jeant took bold of Mr.. Wilson; he ointed his sword, and said
he would cut his throat. Mr. W. said, " he would certainly have
ran his sword into me, if it had not been for you." Then they
took him out of the house; the soldiers took him. They went
up stairs twice. and on the second time fired upon the landing.
When they got above they fired twice through the window.
Eamined by Mr. Haannt.--There was nobody ha my house
that assaulted the soldiers. I never had such a thing as fire-
arms in my house in my life. The broken window and pannel
are now obs:rvable, and my daughter Ann has the ball to produce.
Questioned by the Coaouas.—They broke into my house
about two o'clock as near as I can recollect.
Ann Raybom sworn.—l live in Watson-street with my mo-
ther. I was at home on the 18th August. No person front our
house fired upon the soldiery, or assaulted them with stones.
Some persons did attack our house, both soldiers and constables.
The first time, they knocked at the door; and afterwards fired
through the window. Then they broke through the pannels of
the door, and a young man of the name of Terry opened it, and
both soldiers and constables came iuto the house; they went up
stairs to search It. When they came down, they asked me if
diere was any person upon the house ? They then went a second
/lime to search; they fired twice through the window, and once
on the landing of the stairs. When they came down again they
mid a stone had come from the top of the house; I said—" It
Thad not—they cannot get upon our house without a ladder on
the outside." The first that was firerfwas through the chamber
window. The sash of it was down. I had not been half a mo-
ment from the window when the shot was fired.—( Witness pro-
duced the bullet.)
Examined by the Coaonsx—Our house is two stories high
from the ground. It was about half-put two when the con-
stables and soldiers burst in. The door was opened after they
bad broken the panels in. The bullet came through the glass;
the sash was not open; the bullet came through the middle
chamber window • I found it on the room floor, about an hour
after the constables bad left the house.
Jane Whittaker, of Oldham, sworn. I never saw John Lees
until the Tuesday but one before he died. I saw hint on the
Manchester-road, going towards Oldham. He if as going on the
road, and a man in a cart called on him ; I was in the cart ; then
he got into the cart by the wheel, and sat betide me. Ile told
us be bad been to the Infirmary to be dressed; I cbser ied no-

thing particular in his appearance; I asked
wounded ? and he said he was in his elbow ;
Me where he was hurt; I asked hlm if he was .
else? he said, no. We rode above a mile together.
Richard Lloyd and his wife, and Ann Bardsley,
another woman in the cart, but I cannot tell her t.
appeared to me not to be lame; Thomas Wlittaki
brother, was with him ; he appeared to me to
a little before four o'clock when he got into the,
at Hollinwood, about half past five; he got in
cart himself. The sleeve of his cost was upon
not sure whether the seam was open or not; he
in his waistcoat; be did not say whether he bad
the Infirmary or not. He got in, up the cart •
stopped whilst he got in; he got in by himself.
out at an alehouse; be drank twice whilst he NI
Elizabeth Rayborn being recalled, was examined
row—l will not say a gun or pistol was not fired f
the other houses. It was betwixt two and three
diets came in, but I don't fix it within an hour.
stairs twice; they might be in the house ten
said they thought somebody in the house had
stones. I think there were two foot soldiers,
was a serjeant of Artillery. There were
with them. -
Mr. HARM'S produced a map, and sbewed that h,
that pointed out by Robert MU, who was examined
Joseph Howarth was next called—l live -
knew Johq Lees; I was in his company on the
wick-brook ; it is three quarters of a mile from
was at Mr. Barnsbaw'sahop ; I saw his elbow
other part dressed • he did not mention any other
hearing, but he told who did it. He was '
about half an hour. He did not complain
but his arm. Whilst I was there he told the.
the Yeomanry Cavalry struck at him, but he warded
came up ooe of the 15th, and that he it was the
cut. The doctor did not examine any other place
my presence. I did not see him at any other time.
laid a plainer upon his wound, wrapped it up, and
come again next day. I went there for medicine
being poorly at that time. Lees appeared very w
face, and looked very poorly. He had no medicine.
not bled.
Cross-examined by Mr. Rsaatea—Less looked
he did not say who it was that struck him ; 1
the I.sdcwho wounded him. It is Usual for
take a stick ; I often carry a stick myself; but
tendon of assaulting any person.
(By the Coaoxze)—Lees looked very ill, and
his singlet ; I saw him pull off his coat.
Win. Norris Buckley was again called to give
the Coroner declared it inadmissible. Mr. B. t'
hope, that he would not be deemed intrusive •
be took the liberty of calling its attention to a g.
• ration and malicious comment which had appeared
Wewspaper, with regard to his evidence on a
Cowers—lt is in vain to notice the min
None of the Newspapers, for they are not to be
erouled. I observed yesterday, that among tl
speaking, and slander," seem quite the order of
Mr. Buckley—But 1 have been attacked, '
miumer, in the Paper to which I allude; for 1.
raimbsods-in a letter signed " Ucinius," which
The Courier of the 7th instant; and I have,'
tattoo in saying, that the writer of that letter
may, is a scandalous liar and a scoundrel.
Jowph Prestwich examined by Mr. Hamm.—
Droylesden, and am a weaver. I can identify --
Samuel Harrison; they were perhaps 20 yards ,
I saw Thomas Redford wounded. I saw those
the people. I saw Oliver cut one, and Samuel
womaa's breast.
Here the Coamota Interposed, observing, that
attacks were made at a distance from the hustings,
inconsistent with the rule which he had already
mit such evidence. He was, indeed, surprised •
should be pressed upon him, after be had so
tinetly declared his decision as to its irrelevancy ,
inadmissibility upon an Inquest respecting the
Lees, who was proved to have been wounded 1.•••
of the hustings.
Mr. Houma contended for the relevancy
especially with respect to the identity of the Yt
upon and cut the people,conceiving as be did
or other person concerned in that attack was
then, the proofs of identity wise not admitted,
should be disposed tolled a verdict of murder,
pellable to find that verdict against " persons -
evidence could be adduced distinctly to point
parties who were guilty. To exclude suck evidence
fore, be to defdat the ends of justice.
Here Mr. BilkOZT, M.P. and Mr. BIM
Mr. Asuwoara expressed his astonishment
toner bad so decidedly laid down the rule by
regulate the conduct of the Court, evidence
still continue to be obtruded upon him.
could not deem in any degree excusable. It •
with the Court. It was, indeed, an insult
consequence to persist in such a come, and
Coroner, who was the Judge of that Court,
his authority to be treated with such indifference.
perhaps was it so important firmly to maintain t,
Constituted Authorities, and he trusted that •
nity would be allowed to suffer in the bands
Judge whom he had the honour to address.
surprise to hear Mr. Harmer talking of the
peliable to do what he thought proper on this
Mr. Hoaxaa.—l did not mean to use the •
in any degree offensively, and I have no doubt
felt • I alluded only to what an honest Jury, I
stood, might feel themselves compelled by their
to pronounce upon this important inquiry.
Coaosen—l am determined to maintain
have so often defined; and I must say, that
in Mr. Harmer thus perpetually to attempt i
rules. But, in order to guard against such
I here declare my purpose not to examine as
by Mr. Harmer, unless a statement of what
to depose shall be previously laid before me
Mr. IfAIDIZR—I must decline to comply
rangement ; for a man might state that to r
which he would not be willing to swear, at
not present statements seriously impugning
dividuals, where those statements are not upon
William Walker—l live at No. 7, Edge-street.
field when the Manchester Yeomanry appeared.
rison and Thomas Shelmerdine cut at the people.
Sir, I have a right to speak (to the Coroner:
persons wounded near the hustings. I saw tw
from the hustings. I was leaping from the
hustings at the time. I call that the north
street. After I had left the hustings. I t
way off with a light-coloured flag. I left
after Messrs. Hunt and Johnson had delivered
I ran towards Peter-street.-1 went about
interruption. I was then detained nearly
know who took the flag from me. I saw is
immediately after I left the hustings, but
The other person attempted to get up, but
These people were upon the ground when I is
tugs. There was blood upon the head of one
velveteen coat. These are all I know of
within ten yards of the hustings. After
street, I made the best of my way home.
Examined by Mr. 11Aituta-1 saw persons a.
cutting ; Samuel Ilarrison and Thomas Shelmerdine
ting. I saw other persons in the same dress,
11-orison binged at me, but his horse would
Shelmerdine struck at me.
Questioned by. Mr. Itaaaow—l was first
here this morning. I attended at Oldham 1
I gave in a statement directly after these
Mr. Johnson.
Examiued by Mr. Asirwoirrn—l went •
people to the Meeting ; I did not notice any inscription
banners; I carried no colour there; the attempt so butt me
afterwards made; did not see any wound inflicted within
distance of ten yards. I saw no wound inflicted*? the
named, but I saw them attempt it ;Ido • swear that
son and Shelmerdine inflicted any wound Motins,
they attempted so to do; I saw Harrison wound r"
wards, but not hear the hustings.
John went to the hustings.
Mr. Hunt went to the field, and all was
.1.
I stood within ten yards of the hustings.
wounded, and I myself was also wounded.
person cut I saw plenty down, but was'
of myself to loot-alter other persons. 1

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insisted by Mr. Bar- 1 t 1
fired from some of ' • I A •
three when the sot- • ' Is I 1
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ten minutes. They , I S
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had been throwing , , , '
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from Oldham. He •
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other wound in my i. ..1 ..,
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se doctor that one of I '- 1
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warded it off. That
as that gave him his
place an that day in '
r time. The doctor :1; ; •
up, and told him to . 4
medicine for myself, ; . 1
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medicine. He was
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looked very poorly ; I .
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or country people to ti • '
but not with the in. ' -I ' s
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• give evidence; but 1 I
B. then expressed a • i ;
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ye upon the Court if
s a gross misrepresen- 11 I .' ,
pa i , red in The Courier . s, 1
1 a former day. ! . ' I
misrepresentations of . ,
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sbe corrected or con- I. i ''' 1 ecl's
sg them " lying, evil- •
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id, Sir, in the foulest ~,s
'or I find the grossest 1 $ , - i i .
which is inserted in , I ' I
re, therefore, no heal- •
stter, be he whom he
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Hansa.--I live in
tify young °fiver and
rda from the hustings e i i
hose two men cutting • I i ,
unuel Harrison cut a , . , .
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r, that as those alleged a i s i ,
hustings, it would be • . . - 1- 1
eady laid down, to ad- 1. •0 I . 'l, i •
sed that such evidence
so frequently and dis- • ' • 1 i .
rancy and consequent ' ./ 4 ' j; : 4.
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og the death of John . , -
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led within a few yards ,1; •,i'• . ;
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ncy of such evidence, I 1 1
• Yeomen who charged • • ' . .
id that every Yeosnaa
was a - principaL If, 1. ' (
sitted, the Jury, if it
utter. would be cons-
lons under,
while
point out by name the f •-. '!' .-.,
evidence would, there. .
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sent that after the Co-
by which he meant to 'V • *'i
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se of this nature should •
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Such pertinacitr he ' .
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It was absolute trifling ', t s . • '
ult to its dignity and ,' . 4 ~:
nd he hoped that the
curt, would not allow
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Terence. At no period
ntain the dignity of the s • ' a
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Sat no part of that dig- • . . •
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nds of therespectable I k i '
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ess. He expresied hie 1
the Jury's being cons.
this occasion.' i • • t , :.
• the word compellable .., . 1 . ' t.,
doubt that it will be so ' • ;
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fury, before whom he
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y their own consciences
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tan the rule which I • ' :. I '*;
hat it is not becoming
ipt the violation of nay, 11' i
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itch attempts in future, .•
e any witness adduced • -I 1. '. . .
that the witness means • .tI ft I.
me in writing. • ' .t i
nply with- Such an ar- 4
to me in conversation . i ! 1. 1
, and therefore I will •
ng the character of in-
: upon oath. . •
pi-street. I was on the , .
spearal. , Samuel Har- lit •
r people. I understand, . . I
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Ironer). I saw several • • !it , s 1
tw two about five yards It' ! '
the north end of the . •
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end towards Peter- . I
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I made the best of my 1.
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eft the hustinp directly
clivered themselves up.
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out fifty yards without
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arty a minute. I don't I i 1
w two persons wounded
it cannot tell by whom. li .
1, but fell down again. 1 '1
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,n I leaped off the hew- , 1 II
.f one man ; be had on a i • '
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✓ I had got into Peter. - 1 •
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Shelmerdine were cut- I I ''
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dress, and with swords. '1 1 , 1
Raid not stand, and then .„1, ' . ; r
first ordered to attend
en last Saturday week. it ; ' I
wise things happened 'o . •. ig !,
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it with the rest of the
any inscription on the ,
attempt .to hurt me was • s I
ad intliesed within she • .
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inflictedky the persons • ,
o not swear that Ilarri- '
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d near the Intstiogs, b' e . i •
a inflict a wound after.
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It& I was there before . .
,as peaceable and quiet. 1 . 1 • .
stings. I saw a persaa
inded. I saw no other - ill. #. 1
was too busy taking care
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