Star.
London, England, 1803-06-21 00:00:00

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TheSsealvatiatWaa would not have again asl.
dretfed the Houle, had it not been for foroe ohferva•
cons which had fallen from the Rt. Hon. Gentleman
oppolite (Mr. Windham), who had termed the pre-
fent meafure both tardy and ill confidered. He de-
slid it to have been tardy, as it was brought forward
es form as it could be rendered efficient. How far it
WAS ill confidered, he fhould leave to the Houfe to
determine. But the Gentleman had gone farther, and
had accufed his Maje. ily's Minißers of having (can.
daloutly negleeled their duty, in all affairs o(military
arrangements. To this accufation he Sunda plead
not guilty ; and he believed he might do the fame for
thole with whom he aEted. He agreed with the
Right Hon. Gentleman in many of his obfervati•ns,
but he thought them. in general. ill placed.
Sir W. Yalta° aid 3 fir word& in explanation.

The quedion was then put, and agreed to owe. toe.
The report was brought up and agreed to. The Ad-
drefs ordered to be pt created. and Bills to be brought in.

I/LISN SUDGILT.

The Honk having refolved Wilt into a Committee
of Ways and Means.
Mr. CORRY, the Chancellor of the Irim Exchequer.
rote ; and proceeded, without any general obferva.
lions. to lay before the Committee the financial Rate.
meats of the pretest year.

WPPLIr.

The whole of the joint charges for England and
Ireland, as bad been Rated by his Right licnourable
Friend on a former day, was about 27,000,0001.
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Of which the proportion of Ireland in money was £.3452.000
'Cho frparatc charges for Ireland were,
Interelt of Debt, Sinking Fund, dtc. £.2,040,000
Compenfation, the bit that world he paid goo,oco
ariptions Iso,ooo
Trcafury Bib 386,0c0

2,876,000

Making In all for Ireland . L. 6,478,000
There were likewife in the hands of the Bank of
11 Oand Treafury Bills, fimilar to Exchequer Bills
h.: e, which the Bank of Ireland, he believed, would
have no objecaion to renew.
WAYS AND MEAN!. •
To make good this fum of 6,478,0001. of charges,
there were—
Relaxes in the Exchequer, fimilar to the growing pro-
duce of the tonfolidated Fund in England L. vs o,coo
Revenue for the current year • 3,oampoo
Lottery fame as lilt year • 200,000
Which, with the proportion for Ireland of the late
Loan, amounted to . • Z.5,916,c00
Leaving a deficit of upwards of soo,oool. To fupply
this deficit, he propofed to raife a loan in Ireland, to
the extent of a fum not exceeding 1,000,0001. This
would leave a furplus in the Exchequer of Ireland.
which, when the circumftances of the prefent crifis,
and the pollibility of fudden emergencies were confi-
dered, would not appear improvident or unneceffary.
It rem..ined for him to point out the new taxes by
which he propofed to pay the intereft of the loan.—
Before he proceeded to do In, he begged leave to fay
a few words on the &bier!! of the Trade of Ireland.
Lift year he had informed the Committee, that the
balance of trade for a years had not been fo favourable
for Ireland, as could havetseen wifhed. That balance
be was happy to find was now more favourable than
it had been, though he hill confidently looked to great
and important improvements. That the balance of
trade was becoming more advantageous to Ireland,
was proved by the amount of the exports and im-
ports. He took occafion to remark, that this balance
10, was more favourable than it appeared from the official
value. The mode of account thil continued in Ire-
land in this department. He (hewed that the official
value did not in reality Phew the true value of die
goods exported, which, where a duty was to he paid
were rated at their bare value, without including the
freight, profit, &e. of which the place confuming the
goods mull return to the merchant exporter. Ht.:
had the fatisfattios of thinking, therefore, that not•
withflanding the exports were exceeded by the im-
ports, it was not by Co confiderable a balance as at
tira appeared, and, as a portion of the imports was
of raw materials, he trolled that the drains which
had been Co iinfavourable to Ireland would gradually
be diminifhed. Laft year be had ventured to exprefs
a hope that the linen trade would this year increafe,
which, from the circionftances of the times, the pre-
valence of fcarcity, &e. had in tre precedi•ig year
been confined. He was happy to think that this was
in some meafure the cafe, and that moll of the old
Rock in Ireland had been carried off, and there was
the pmfpeaft of an increafing demand. Under the
head of provifions and corn there has been a crmfi-
derable increafe, independent of the extraordinary
demand for provifions which the war would neceffa,
rily occafion. On the head of provifions there was an
increafe in the value cf the exports of asoaxaol. and
on corn sso,oool. beyond the former year. Although
he regretted the war, he was happy to think that in
tome refpetis it would be attended with fuperior ad-
vantages to Ireland, which would be Come courpen.
Cation for the increafed burdens it would occafion.
—ln regard to provifions, and in all probability corn
alio we might next year confidently expect an in-
create. There were the bell hopes that the linen ma-
nufatture would likewife be increafed in an unufual
proponion. The importation of flax had never been
fir great, and likewife the cultivation of this article,
fo important to the Staple manofattnre of Ireland, the
principal fame of its wealth, was never exceeded in
any former period.
He next made Come remarks upon the revenue of
Ireland. H. Should not at relent enter Into a de.
tailed Statement oa this foisted, particularly as he
Should think it isneandid to do fo in the abfence of a
kighe Hon. Centleman,with whom be bad,on former
oecafiona, Come difference of opinion. Laft year the
revenue bad turned out nearly what he had ettimated,
being about 3,550,0001. but for the prefent year be
Should not take it at more than 3,000,0001. The rea-
Irons for this were that the duty on tobacco had fallen
otf, as well as that on foreign fpirita. The imports.
v.° of roger had likewife been excelGve, and it was
rl at probable that the duty would this year be fo great.
There were likewife Tome arrears of alTeffed taxes
colletted in the former year t In that upon the whole
h- did not t` ink hionfelf milled to ellimate the re. I
venue for to.s year at more than 3,000.0001-
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lie now cense o the new taxes. in the fiatemeut
of which hq bsief,for there was nothing
i 4.; g'•7o ravagant in the rates of
theta "t ditl; •
tie •• "4 _
Ntr: ace. an increafe upon
the he Pt" l'_:) 12-1 nfequence of the prin.
e,il.s of.:/- '
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in COOfetilltleft of the Union, this tax would fall '
entirely on foreign commodities. He propofed the
amnunt to be to per cent.
The Traduce of this be took at 140,0*0
The nest was a duty of export on certain artiol. a Here
he to i o:tattoo to remark, that it was not the principle
of the lloion that the fame articles in both countries •
lbould be lotjedt to the fame tax. The rates of revenue
were to he roportioned, but the affets of taxation, and
tbr quality of the tax might be feparate and
Where, however, it was equally confonant to the interett
of both countries that the fame object should be tued,
it was defirabie to follow that ',turrets to affunilate them.
The exports of Ireland, however, he was lorry to ray,
were nut fo cztuafive as to promite a very large farm. This
be took at 7• .000
The next was an additional duty on Home-made Spi.
site. and he was lure, that as far se was compatible with
the ditcouragement of the private Rills. the Haute would
fed that to difeourage the tile of fpirituoos liquors was
to promote the induftry and the good morals of the
people. 91. per gallon on Home Spirits, and a counter-
vailing duty of cd. per gallon on Foreign Spirits, over
and above the to p.r cent. would give 30,000
Here he noticed, that from the duty of our imports.
Tonacco woule be exempted, beraufe It was frond that
in time of peace, it could not bear the prefent rate.
The Taft oiled was Malt. Malt, he laid, was uted In
the ditillery in proportion of one half, and therefore the
&flittery would contribute on this part. He hoped, as
far as it affeEted the brewery, the tax would not be at-
tended with any inconvaticoce, becaufe he confidered .
the encouragement of the brewery in oppoOtion to the
diftilicry, was attended with the molt benefitial
He propofed to make the tax io the barrel of Malt, the
brewery in Ireland being fubjes to no other duty of ex.
cite. This be calculated at 40,000
Total of Taxes 380,000
Intereft of the Loan In England 143403
In Ireland 65,000
208,000

Surplus a 72,000
It might be allied why he had propofed to levy
taxes calculated to produce fo much more than the
intereh of the loan ? In anfwer, he nbferved that the
fituation of the empire called upon us to make ample
provifion for future exertion. If peace took place,
the produce of the prefent taxes would enable Parlia-
ment to reduce the rate on fevcral objets which, dur-
ing peace, could not be made to bear the rate they
were now loaded with. If the war continues, the
furplus would go in aid of the vigorous exertions
which we fhould be called upon to make. If the
people of Ireland looked at the brilliant and folid mea-
lures of finance, the finking fund, the furplus of the
affeffed taxes, the income tax, of which the illußrious
hotelman who till lately prefided over that depart-
ment had given the example, and thofe energetic
meafures which his Right Hon. Friend had lately
brought forward for the fupport of the war, they
would feel themfelves impelled to follow the fame
courfe, and be inclined to fubmit to larger temporary
burdens, in order to fccure their permanent interell
and prefperity. It might be louse time before the
peoOr of Ireland, fully aware of the dangers that ins-
pended, made up their minds for ftsch fscrifices, but
he hoped the time was not dißantwhen with the appro.
Nation and aid of all the intelligent dales of that coon-
' try, he fhould be enabled, if he continued to Rand in
hisprefent official fituation, to propofe a tax upon pro-
perty as a war refource. He concluded with moving
the Refulutions for the new taxes.

Mr. Leto!! (poke at Arne length. He viewed Ire-
land as a rifing country, England as a perfect one.
He, however, propofed having a full war tax at once.
Mr. W. SMITH laid, it would furprife him indeed,
if the profpeti of the income tax would reconcile the
people of Ireland to the war, a tax which he omit-
cried the moll oppreffive and unequal which could
be devifed. As to the increafe of debt, he hoped
Ireland would take warning from England.
Mr. Cotter dated that he had fpoken generally of
the expediency of Ireland making great temporary
facrifices rather than increafe her debt too rapidly.—
Alluding to a tax on property. he raid, that fuch a
tax would moll effcttually include the abfentees, a
chats of men whom it was moll clearable to reach,
if it could he done in an equal manner. He hoped
too that filch a tar would reach, and he wilhed Parha
ment could lay a heavy hand on that clafs, the mid.
dle men on farms, a fpecies of drone, deftruaive
equally to the interetls of the occupier and of the
landlord.

Mr. Hawerws &owlet., alluding to what Mr
Smith had laid, remarked that it was wrong to pro-
fcribe any tax. fo produtaive as that on propertymight
be, merely by intinuations. He approved the prin-
ciples of the Income Tax as a War Tat.
Mr. Divots Nowa' doubted whether the tax on
fpirits would be produltive, as the new duty would
give fo much temptation to fmuggling. He was of
opinion that the middlemen alluded to, formed a
dafs originating in different circumftances, and likely
to be mine, for en the expiration of the old leafes,
the landlord would not allow the middleman to de-
vour the occupier, but would receive his rent from
the latter at once. In his county the abolition of
middlemen had been attt"ied with general and ra-
pid improvement. Alluding to the date of Ireland,
which he had left lately, he (aid it was fuch as every
loyal mind could wins, and if the French were to land
there, he was confident they would experience as Cliff
a refitlance from the population of Ireland, as from
that of any part of the empire.
Sir Maiteos Soustiammt whited to know whe-
ther Ignikrs, while they talked of laying filch new
Witham on the people of Ireland. intended to do any
thing for that numerous and refpetiable body, the
Catholics f—(Ne aefever seas walk.)
Mr. DAWSON in general approved of the taxes f but
he doubted whether Ireland could pay a property tax.
Colonel Bac wst t. thought that the manufaaure
of friths fhould be thfcouraged, and the brewery en-
couraged.
A number of Irifh Accounts were moved for by
Mr. Wickham and Mr. Odell.