Star.
London, England, 1829-03-20 00:00:00

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feet?. et? :Or what would the opposers
.of that laiessot
measure suggiit as a substitute? ;Who? unless tbey
would wish that Ireland should continue for ever in its
present miserable and degraded state. 'He weuld-now
ask what was I(ie ginet.dinger to be apprehendt d from
carrying tisig measure into effect? They wee to admit
into that House a -feir R man Catholic Petrs—tisen.
whose ancestors had bef:ne procured all those blestinis
which thef.•ai Englishmen; enjoyed. They were to
admit into the ether 1-I..use of Parliamert the sous or
relations of those individuals, or ode s ',Arise • *An
-sod respeetshility was the best.secutity they could- re.
.wire. These were the evil[ dreaded by the opposers
of the ineassie.- s. • .
' .• The Duke al RICHMOND said the Noble Ertl had,
in his eloquentqlpeech, asked, if tney should object to
the meatute, what other Measure would it ey be dis-
posed to substitute flits stead? Now, no opinion of his
(the D eke of )1:4) could have that weight sebieh would
attach itself to4tites opinion of • it distinguished legal
poilkot icy., who, after • be:l:tends* wonted to yorove,lay
settelelre ast Minivns, • . the :asestawar.aeosittd, be.,tn .
. ' to the constitutioa, on being asked a similar clue).
tion as to what measure be would substitute year Ca.
bois
Miolic Emancipation, replied, that he. old 'not know
,whether he ought to 6e-salted such a que tion; but the
kismet he woul !retthn was, that he was n t a member
of the Government. not a Minister•uf lb: Crown; .n r
was he attached to the Gneettiment otherwise thari by
the respect he entertained for tl,e members o• it; and. •
therefe. e, it would. be file fur him vs give. his opinion
as to wh.st plan was best to be proposed. With that
opinion he(the Noble Duke) fn ly agreed. of be thought
it would be. highly improper to suggest a 'Osamu,
which his Majesty's Ministers could best devise. Ansi he
could not but respect the sentiments declared by the
Master of the R Ils in 1827. 'He was well aware shat
a bulge proportion of the population of Iceland bed-
acted a must patriotic part in the late war i • andtitt ugh
be was not disposed to give them credit for:evesy vie.
tory, or for the succ sr of every action, yet he **steady
*to give them full ciedit.for all they had achieved ; but,
did the Bill. apply. to iiiem? Cruld the' Noble Eat'
think that they. would gain' any advantlige'fiom 'the
.passing el-that Bill ? Nay. *etc they not oieng to take
away the tianchise from those personaMe.e they not
going to deptlie them of their sights? • Mint would
say that these men were going to situ& seats in the
Cabinet or in the House of Commons? Would the Noble
Earl or any other person say that those indisitluals
would derive advantages from such.a measure? • 'He
would advise theirLtrdships to bewas elle would edvise
the Gentlemen of the House of Commons to beasts,
sand well to pluseisefore they deprived the kitty shilling
freeholders of their. elective franchise: If :hoses had
crept in let them 'curia those abuses; btu sorely:they
ought not to punish the majority f t the offences-11.4
Sew ; c. and I (cs.ntinued the Noble Doke) for-:ortivseal .
sty, beware, nil' Ltirds.-tie eat e ere you • a4o‘aerraylliSia
the elective flairchisit.• - ' • -,',... • ._ .. 4. ~ • -.•
• The Earl of WICK LOW exp Lined, by isylartbe Ned, Illialie
bad tnisunder.tood his obeervoiloos, Irby.* soppsoel:ll64teliano
~slietled to the *orrices of the tower claws of Cralsulsc.. ....:
• Tee Rart of DARNLEY coosidered ilia tilt 'Rea. Misbnone
of 'the poor Irish was the want of employment; and he. thoutbt
that witkint emancipation the misfortune wooed 'for ever tzi.t....-
The ktilliotrodoced by his Majesty's Ministets4uidd tie the.otsly
remedy for the great evil. .. .. ,
Lord FARNHAM said—My Lord., if I abstain horn
replying to the obsetvatintts of the Noble Lord opposite
(the Eirl a Wicklow) it is only becsuse Idir uo wish
to anticipate the ds baste of the question, which in a *hplt
time will take place within these asalls; but .1:' .ti oat
enter syiy protest against the view taken by the ?4.111e
Lord of the consequences i f rejecting this. inea-u:e: I
have lived to be a• much older man than the N Isle
Eat]. 1 have spent n.y whole life in Ireland.
.Eretg
possession I hose 11, on cloth Teats in that costurry—
every interest that I hold binds me to it—and Allis 'I
conceive to be the best test of the sincerity of the .r•pi-
nions I have formed. My Lot ds, whenever the
.qoe,.
tion corres fairly before your Lordships I trust-init I
Shall be ()termed to state al upillions fully ; .but '1 wia
not now lead you into a discusti'n wl,icit I am sure
your Lordships would rather avoid.— The
.Petittoti was
then laid on the table. .

The Duke of CUMBERLAND the% presented tte
Petition of the gr Ondtes of . that University of Dulihn.
prayisig that Government %mild grant no further con-
cessions in the Itwoan Catholics..TheßoYal -Duke .aid
th.t.the Pe Own -contained 1,109 signa.tre... 'Mete
were a:cached to it the mines of the Chan.ellir d
V ce,Chaticcher of the Unitetety, two A•clitii.hoith,
seven Si hops, -fifteen Dooms of Dniuity, epi tten
Doctors of Law, the Pie iiient of the C liege t I P;,)..
sicians,•ni• e Dutton of Medicine, and 148 M evicts of
Arts.. Tide test were Bachelt.rt of Alts, and the!e.w eta
100 mote giaduries who would have sigt,ed the p it.
tan; had they norptevioutly Agned it petition of aelaini-
.l.at kind. At the reqae.t of his Royal Hshaess:tl.o
petitign was tead at length.
PetitiaaJiaving been road at letagtb,

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Lord PLUNKETT rose, not tot tile purpose of op:
posing it. recepiton, but as it purported to come 1, euil
co.tain.classes of persons conr.ected with the Unises 'lir
of DLljagot be flees as,xornis it, V U Ird their Lordil ifs
ag4inst the possible misconception that it came finns
the University itself: The Noble and Learned Cord
then proceeded to contend, that although the sigthetittn
to the Petition were Most respectable. still that it refire.
sensed not the sentiments of the University, which was
evident Flom the fact, that Of the 26 Fellows Of the
University of Dublin, Only seven or eight were. opposed
to the Catholic Claiass.ol the sentiments of the scholats
of tb.t University, amiviting to upwards t 170, he 'had
not had recent meat.: ot judging.; but he would Venture
to assert. that the great majority of. them were fa!oirt•
able to cc ncession. In his own person, too, the Stlbil
oldie University had been declared. He had never
disseribled'his conviction, that the removal of ;thel4
disabilities ought to tate place,yet he had had the honour
of being elected by that University as their represents,
Ave in five successive Parliaments. ••• • •
• Lord KING moved that part of the. Petition iShich
spoke of corcolate tights should be read, which haw if, g
selodone the• Noble Lord begged to tall the 'atte..tioh•
of their eordships to the 'mode in which admisSions to
CollPorAtiont iii Ireiand'wete diipensid, 'ed.} rbeeeded
!to wig an-eutract Isom the Journal of the 210azd of
c9illgailAioners•of -Linen and Hempen Manutaeitiresp. f
kthodilleilsP,aAtiigfd that a puiter hat been clibe•i• led
frOni ttiieoriolpfmeot .in that estitilishmenion the
pi/swoosh:alp Of .a .CleeirhigoV *high holged that. an i
triOpPoltb Wog r drunken, dissolute, %weevil% per o ;.
awver'nest page (131) of the J uenal, their