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bind, so far from condemn!ng bow daces, s in-
tariou% to the public he considered it a matter of
Vital importance to reta.ll them; and he observed,
that it was right the Crown should have the means
of rew .rding public services, in a way which even
its own caprice could nor afterwards rectal. Those,
he said, wh.. retired from the bustle of public life,
sboul I be put berm,' a precarious reliance on pole
tieal friends—and. above all. beyond the opereiop of
the inconstancy of Princely favour. The Committee
bad discnvered but four classes of ipdividuali. coo-
taining 21 persons. wh.. were entitled tfr he rev arded
for their services, by the Sovereign. He decidedly
objected to the conclusion to which the Committer
had co e, in thus contracting the power of the Crown
in one of its most grateful departments. The trite-
ran of service was now the length of time dosing
which °dice had been enjoyed. But looking to the
the country, individ4als might be found,
who had done more real public service in a short pe..
rind, than others had perfoimed in a long lapse of
years. lit Ibis instance they were about in ask the
Crown to give its assent to a Bill, which condemned
the eartei4e of its free will and discretion, in granting
rewar.ls dosing all time past He thought, with the
pest States- an to whom he before alluded, that if,
in compliment to popular clamour, they did away all
incentive to honotirable ambition, no man knew what
ialinite mischief they might inflict on the country
through ail ages. As he was one of those who wish-
ed puhiic services to be properly rewarded, and as he
desired to see public men, at the close of their politi-
cal life, honoured with some mark of the gratitude
of their country, he could not, and he would not,
give his support to any one of those Bills.
Lord MILTON did on: intend to have troubled
the House on the subject of this Bill, which, he
thought was likely to pass without a dissenting
voice—but it was impossible to hear the speech of
the Honourable Gentleman over the way, aiJ not tc
make a few observations in answer to it. The Ho.
nourable Gentleman had misrepresented, from be-
ginning to end, the doctribes contained in the speech
lie had quoted. It he (Lord Milton) were to blame
the Conimime, it would be it:r net having taken that
comprehensive view (.1 the question, which they
ought to have done—(llear,lstar).--They had
scraps, and shreds, and patches) libm different s it
terns, but they -had not iffy granCliiii
conwreileasive principle. But, respect t 0 the
• now before the House, they ,were capressff
spoken of by Mr. Berke, whb, rlitilitnended the'
u alierting rt the Crown Lands With two esceptioart.
and observed, that, by this means, two Chief Justices
iu Eyre would fall down.—(lisar, ilear).rhose
very oacts were to be destroyed, by cutting away
the inundation on which they rested. But the Ho.
nourable Gentleman called on the House to preserve
the Constitution in its integrity ; and. fur that pu-
rist-, they were askial to perpetuate those situations.
Iney most, therefore, look to what the Chief Jus-
tices was ionised, in Eyre. and what they are now.
They are not a part of die Constitution as at at pre-
sent tils(o.

Mr. tiOSW ELL interrupted the Noble Lord. He
consider J those offices as a part of a great whole—
sad, dive re. he did not wish them to be removed
Lord MILTON—AII these offices were originally
laborious .o,cl efficient—they had ceased to be so—
tory h. 44.1 become Sii.ecutes ; and, therefore, the Ho-
nourable Gentleman was wrong in describing them
at forming part of the Constitution of the country.—
Were ti.ey. it MSS asked, to yield to the senseless
clamour of , the people ? He was not one if those
who would yield to it. He might be termed an
to 'liras aldose' to popular clamour. But he saw
of wpm those who called for the abolition of those
places, all the middling ranks of people—the main-
stay of the Country and of the Constitution —(llear,
• hoar). He also saw amongst them the higher order of
the people, out of that House—personvou a level with
themselves. And he thought, that though they ought '
not to yield to senseless clamour, they ought to at-
tend to calm representations, coming from such
quarters as those to which lie had alluded. To r;uote
the words of Mr. Burke-1, Goo
.ft4bid that any
power in this country should Istgap,able of resisting
the well-founded voice of the people I" ( Thar, tier).
A subject (the Noble Lord alluded to Parliamentary
Reform) would come before the House to-morrow,
which was more the object of popular clamour than
that which was now under their consideration. The
Honourable Gentleman bad dwelt on the impropriety
of contracting the influence of the Crown. But when
they were told that that influence met them at the
turn of every street, was it not right that they should
pare away some of that influence ? Had Mr. Burke
lived in these times, and considered the additional in-
fluence which twenty-five years of war had given to
the Crown, he would undoubtedly have carried his
idea of contracting it much farther than he had done.
The Bill was then read the second time, and or-
dried to be committed to-morrow.
The Exchequer Offices (England and Ireland)
Regulation Bill was also read a second time, and
• ordered to be committed to-morrow.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT—,6 I have formerly stated

that there existed a possibility of one or two of these
Bills being taken by the other House along with the
Compensation Bill, while probably the rest might be
rejected. Ibe the House to attend to this pos.tibility."
Lord CAS I'LEREAGH" The suggestion of
the Right Honourable Baronet has not escaped the
attention of his Majesty's Ministers, and I can assure
him, str,tl assure the House, that every, precaution will
be taken to render any apprehensions he may have
on that head nugatory. I can state on the part of
my colleagues arid toyielf, that we thought it better
to put the business of the Committee into separat
B 16, for the sake of gaining the object: ; and on Our
part rto exertions shall be wanting to accomplish the
great end they have in viewt,,,Aßfact, Sir, *fall
t:-ought divided, are but oat grw. whole,We
bracsug the same ecouumiekprtueople, md s co
simnel Me must and shall support them all= Priv,
• hear, hear, (rum ail parts of the house.)
Ti.e Excsiequer Court Bill, the Offices in &idiot/
' Repletion Bill, the ()dim in Ireland Abolition Bill,
wen, seierally read a second tune, and ordered to be,
comnristed to-morrow.
S.r JOHN NEWPORT was' astonished, that in
the-last %II no notice bad been taken of the liish
Board or Worts.
Mr. PEEL said, the Board of Works was ear—
tautly inc.lsded within the scope of the recommends?