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.hi Returns from the Mint of all the Gold
imported fora certain period, distinguishing Bullion from Foreign
Coin, agreeable to the order of the House, which were ordered
to be laid on the Table 711/41 to be printed.
The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER fixed his motion
for the better regulating the priority of Notices to Orders on cer-
tain days, and the psecedenee .f Orders before Notices, on other
days, for the more convenient dispatch of business, for Tues-
day next. He statcilk that the proposed regulations should not
Interfere with the right of making a notion without any notice.
Mr. WHITBRKAI) moved for the production of certain
Minutes of the Exchequer, respecting certain removals, in con-
sequence of the Report of the Exchequer Bills Committee.—
Ordered.
Mr. LUSHINGTON brought up the Report of the Committee
of Supply, when the several Resolutions were read and agreed to.
Leave was given to bring in a Bill to enable the Kent Water.
Works Company to improve their works.
Qn the motion of Mr. CREEVY, a great variety of papers,
rioting to the Affairs df the East India Lompany, were ordered
to be laid before the House.
Mr. W. W YN NE stated tt to be his intention, to bring forward
the Motions of which he gave notice on Monday, to.morrow.
Mr. LOC K HART brought iu the Commercial Dock Bill, which
was read a first, and ordered to be read a second time.
Lord pALMERSTONg gave notice, that he would, to-mor-
row se'nnight, move for taking the Army Estimates into further
conoldeistion

• WEAVERS.
On the motion of Mr. ROSE, the Acts of the 90th and 32d °I
the King, relating to the disputes between Weavers and their
Masters, were read. 'llse Right Hon. Gentleman then obtained
leave to bring in a Bill to amend these Acts
Hums CONVENTION BILL.
Mr. WARD wished to know whether the papers already before
the House on the subject of the Convention Bill, were all that
were necessary to comprehend the proceedings lately adopted in
that country.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, be be-
lieved that they comprehended all that could with propriety be
distlosed, but he certainly had no objection to grant other..., if
they were necessary, and could be furnlihtd without detriment
to the State.
Mr. WARD observed, that he should move for some further
papers on the subject to-morrow, previous to his moving for the
tepeel of the Bill.
PAYMASTERS OF WIDOWS PENSIONS.
Mr. HENRY MARLIN asked if the 4alary of the Paymasters
of Widows Pensions had been increased; if so, in what propor-
tion, and Whether the increase had been in consequence of the re-
commendation of the Board of Admiralty r
Mr. WARD replied, that the Salaries bad been increased. He
could not say iti what proportion; and the increase was not in
consequence of a recommendation front the Board, but of a Me-
ninrial front the Paymasters, setting forth the great Increase of
business.
COLVILLE, THE PRISONER IN coLDBATH-PIELDS.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, pursuant to
notice, moved (or the appointment of a Secret Committee to in-
spire Into the circumstances which lad to the detention of
Colville, now a prisoner in the Horse of Correction, Coldbath-
Fields.
Lord FOLKSTONE thought that the inquiry should not be
confined to the detention only, but should extend to the cir-
cumstances which led to the capture ; if what had been rumoured

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hands of proper trustees. HE concluded by sar,
the motion of Sir John Anstruther, of having the
for two years instead of severs.
Mr. HORNER stated, that from all the intelli-
gence which he could collect. there prevailed a strong
opinion throughout all Scotland, that amendments
on their Laws of Debtor and Creditor were Aso;
lilt+ necessary for the prosperity of commerce and
the insurance of industry. He deemed it much owl
expedient, till proper amendments were furnished, to
continue the present law from year to year. but as it;
then was he would support the Amendment proposed
by his Hon. Friend Sir J. Anstruther.
The LORD ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND ac.
quiesced in the amendment proposed.
Mr. HORNER said, he was glad to find that the
Noble Lord had given up his original motion. He
was assuredly of opinion, that the Lord Advocate of '
Scotland ought to have proposed amendments on the
laws of his country, which even he himself had al-
lowed to be wanting ; and he was convinced that the
courtesy of the House would have deemed them so
useful as not to oppose them.
The LORD ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND said
that the Hon. Member had assumed a lofty tone,'and
said he considered it as his (the Lord Advocate's)
duty to propose and get amendments ratified. He
could pot see where the Bankrupt Law of Scotland
was any way deficient in fulfilling its purposes. It
was certainly much superior to the Bankrupt Law
of England. They had observed both the excellen-
cies and defects of the English Bankrupt Law in the
formation of the Scottish, and had profited by the
knowledge, as a candid comparison would convince
any person who had the resolution to examine them.
There had been no murmur in Scotland, nor coin:
plaint ; nor was Scotland reduced to the necessity of
accepting tiv Hon. Gentleman's comparison or aid.
—He had been more recently in Scotland than the
Hon.*Genticman, and had better opportunities of
knowing the opinions of the people. He had heard
none of those murmurs nor discontents urged on by ,
the ingenious Gentleman ; and since no proper sys-
tem of permanent establishment had been produced.
he would continue in the present opinion he entertai-
ned of the goodness of the Law, until he saw a bet-
ter produced.
Mr. HORNER observed, that it was not on the
opinions of the Scottish people that they were argu-
ing; but certainly had the Lord Advocate properly
observed the opinion of the Commercial Company of
Glasgow, he would not have asserted that the Scots
did not murmur.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
could not see any ground the Honourable Gentle-
man could have for the accusation which he had
brought against the Lord Advocate of Scotland, for
the Honourable Gentleman believed they differed in

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re•pecting his capture was true, it would be a disgrace to the rm. I --- 1----
tional character. point of law when they differed in point of fact.—
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the ori- (A laugh.)
ginal complaint was not only on account of tli manner in which Mr. ABERCROMBY said that he wished to call
this man had been taken, hut also the mode of his treatment since ~,,,
bis imprisonnwpt. Hr was however glad to find that the charge Ls. the Lord Advocate's recollection what opinion he
of bad treatment was now altegether abandoned. The taking, was of when the Bill was produced. When the No-
bewever, ought not to be censured in such unqualified terms, till ble Lord brought forward the Bills he wished it only
it was known whether this person had been taken as an open as a temporary law ; for he stated it -would need im-
enemy or as a spy. The Nuble Lord would be able to satisfy -
of improvement when the Bill was to be continued ;
rovement. He came aftewaids with the same
bloom', as he iute...ded to propose that the Noble Lord should tale
be one of the Committee.
Mr. YORKE said, that having himself seen Lord George and has again come to the House with a like conies-
St ewart, he wan el ,ZblCli to contradict the state= et that had gone sion, that it needs amendment. The charge of his
abroad, of WI having invited Colville to dinner. The Noble Lord Honourable Friend was extremely just, unless greater
liqwever, (Folkstonr) would Dave an opportunity of examining . .
before the Secret Committee. explanation took place which could overthrow it.—
_Tee Motion was then agreed to, and the Secret Committee He would wish to be distinctly understood when he
stands thus i—mr. Robert Dundas, Sir Francis Burdett, Mr. stated that the Lord Advocate, not having followed
Clarks Long, Mr. Williams Wynne, Mr.Willsrrforce, Mr.l.el- up I • o h's promises of amendment on the Bankrupt
cuter, sir Arthur Pigott, Lord Folkston*, Mt. Bonner, Mr.
Law, had certainly not completely fulfilled his duty
GForge Ellis, and Mr. Lambe.
SCOTTISH CREDITORe BILL. to Scotland.
-On the motion of the LORD ADVOCATE of Mr. ADAM wished that the Lord Advocate of
SCOTLAND, the Hotse resolved itself into a Com. Scotland would turn his whole mind to that impor.
!nit* on the Scottish Creditors' Bill. tint subject.
,Mr. itAgg.cßomßY complained, that for the The Amendment was agreed to ; and the House
last SO years, though alterations and amendments having resumed, the Report was ordered to be recei-
were absolutely necessary in the Bankrupt Law of ved to morrow.
Scotland, no such thing had been attempted by the THE PRINCZ REGENI'S HOUSEHOLD.
Ministry, though such had been moved Sty Members The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
of the House. He said, that the whole business which' rose tor the purpose of adverting to a former notice
he had given eespecting the Household to be proviel-
decided between debtor and creditor hung on a tern-
ed for his Royal Highness the Prince Regent. It
porary Bill, and he could wish to see those claims,
might be recollected, that in the course of the discus-
which insured public and individual property secured
on a more permanent basis. He wished to know for sions on the Regency Bill, he had alluded to the
course which, in his opinion, would be most eligible
what length of time the Noble Lord would propose
to continue those Law; longer in the present state ? for the House to pursue in the establishment of the
The LORD ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND Regent's Household. He had accordingly been pre-
answered, that it had been deemed expedient, on a paring to submit a plan which, by the temporary re.,
due consideration of the whole, to propose to conti- duction of the office of Chamberlain, would enable,
out them in their present state for seven years longer. the Country to provide and maintain such an estab.
. lishment, at the low rate of 12 or £15,000. When
JOHN ANSTRUTHZR said, that the Bank
rapt Law of Scotland had been on consideration of
his Royal Highness was pleased to signify his deter-
amendment by the Ministers for these serentren urination of continuing in the service of the Crown
the persons then carrying on the Government, he (Mr.
years past, and during all that_period little had been Perceval) felt that it became his duty to lay the plan
done worthy of noticing. The objections.whiehhad
of an Household before the Regent; but upon an an•
been formerly made to the Bill were all very Sound,
and be could wish to see most material amendments dience with his Royal Highness, he learned that his
al Highness remained fixed in a perfect that hi
Made en a subject of such national interest ; and he ROI
concluded by moving, That it should only be con- nation of adhering to his former sentiments upon that
subject. For the nature of those sentiments his Royal
tinged fur two years, instead of seven, in its present
=fate. -.• .. Highness was pleased to refer hie) to a Learned and
r. mr. DUNDAS said, that the present proposi- Honourable Friend of his opposite (Mr. Adam).-1
Mwent no farther to bind the House than for thel By him he had been informed, that from the moment
lion
i that he (Mr. Pereeval) had Fret communicated his
present year ; and that if such material amendments
I intention respecting the course meant to be pursued
were deemed so necessary, there would be abundance
of leisure to bring them forward by the next Session I by him respecting the Household, his Royal High-'
of Parliament. tress had communicated to that Learned Gentleman
Sir J. ANSTRUTHER said; he coMpletely dis. his determination not to add to the burdens of the
to his public
tented frcni the resolution of prolong,* them in their people by accepting of any addition
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as Regent of the United Kingdom (Hear, hear.)
present state seven years moreo.,nd deat.he would op-
pose it with all his power. .• . He felt' satisfied that neither that House nor the pub.
i lic would hare felt any indisposition in contributing
The LORD ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND
to the ex pence of the due support of the state and
said, he had considered every measure, which had
Wen originally followed, and had maturely weighed dignity of the Prince Regent (Hear.) At. the same
altwhich had been urged on the necessity of amend- time, the country would not be backward in duly
Royal Highness could
acknowledging this instance of self-denial on the part
ing the Bill, and the result was; that be could not
conceive how that law was liable to greater objections( of the Prince (hear), and his
than any other law. In 1792, the Bill had been brought I not fail to find that such refusal will, in point of fact,
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splendour than could be borrowed from any pageantry,
forward and was then only considered as a temporary throw reund his 'character and station more real
i however brilliant (He.tr, hear, hear): that external
measure, and was received in Scotland with no great
regard. Though amendments might be necessary,
they were bar trivial, and could be brought on in the i magnificenee, calculated to dazzle the vulgar gaze,
next Session of Parliament. For his owl) part, he and catch the giddy admiration of the populace, the
(a general
thought it proper that the present law should be re- ' Prince did not hesitate to sacrifice to those solid good
newed for-seven years. 1 qualities which have long since won, and promise to
Mr. ABERCROMBY wished to, know, what run- secure to him, the affections of the people
fives could have induceel the Lord Advocate to with- cry of Hear, hear.) Having stated these circumstan.
hold the rnaking permanent that law which teas ° ces to the House, it was of course scarcely necessary
bf such use to Scotland ? lie was sure, that if the Bill ; for him to add that it was not now his intention to
had been urged leefore, it would have succeeded, its submit to them any such plan ; and he had now only
chief object hein to secure the debtors' money is the .-tto 94 urn the Ltarnedcrepskaaj; to whom be hid
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