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and which irk negatived is _piepose' of briniing
forward a less Riceptionable anti ante eikient seep,
sure. It was in consequence of tftat step the prom*
',till was introduced. .It came immediately from the
same quarter, and he hoped he.sheuld be able to on;
' fitly their Lordships that it. WAS Tye, from many.- of
those grounds gif qbjeition which acre urged a .
the last. The subject was coftattily one of grant
feeling and importance, and the fretting of mina
Ewe likely to prove efficient, was actin da wad},
. difficulties. It was an arduouvesk to frime
- easy and elfeetive .ssittLetknik which .31?*.y.non •
fere with the due cite of patients Iclichineg Undies
disease 'of so peculiarly calamitous a nature. W.
the Bill now before their Lordships suffered to go to
a Committee, and if Noble Lords would assist with
their wisdom and exPerience in meliorating and i
proving a measure for the *relief of those unha
persons who had nothing but the laws of their cou
try to protect them, he doubted not but a salut
- 'and efficient measure Would be produced. In const-
deting the subject,'he would beg their Lordships w
look to the evidence before them, where they would
• seethe most striking, though, at the same time, hot.'
rid and disgusting facts set forth. The Noble
(nix then read some extracts from the evidence, par-
licolarly that which respected the Lunatic Asyluml
in the county of York, and also one in the county of
Wilts, in order to show the kind of treatment to
which numbers of the ill-fated beings contemplated
by the' Bill were subjected ; and, in one of those
places, several deaths bad taken place, respecting
which it was not yet ascertained in what manner the
unhappy persons had come to their ends. In, one place,
• ins or seven-persons had disappeared altogether, with-
out all the diligence of the Magistrates being able to,
ascertain the cause. the situation of pauper lunatic;
was peculiarly deplorable ; and, on this head, the evi.
deuce of a Noble Lord, a Member of the other
Souse, threw considerable light. Their treatment in
`Many cases was shocking. The communications re-,
telvedfrom Mr. Wright, a most respectable Magistrate
of the 'county of Hants, threw considerable light on
.this pan of the subject. Whatever objections any
Noble Lord might entertain against the 13111 in its
?resent shape might, he repeated, be easily removed
in the Committee; and upon the grounds he had stated,
he should now move the second reading of the Bill..
The-LORD CHANCELLOR quitted the Wool-
sack. On thpeeifedresent °Cession, be observed, he feli
himself 'cow to submit* to the consideration of
their Lordships, whether such a Bill as that now be-
fore them was fit to be reed the second time; and
be Conceived he could SAW?. the House that this Bill,
instead of benefiting the lituation of these unfortuv
state persons, would tend much to prejudice that
sithatlcin,"and obviate these benefits which they now
jectived from the wise, humane, and careful treat-
ment which so *Many of them experienced. Them
were son* parts or clauses of the. Bill which may
well I* niadethe subject of separate diKussion, but
many other parts of the Bill, however he must re-
st)ect the recommendation of the other House of Par-
liament, were liable, in his mind, to strong and most
Aftsurmofintable objections. It was of the utmost
anportittite, with a view to the proper care of these
nithatspy individuals, and with a view to their re-
Covey, that they should be under the surrinten-1
dtticeof medical men, who had made this branch
or medical science the peculiar study of their liveki
and'wbo hid all the advantages• that experience iskl
thiS respect could confer, and that' the superinten.i
delite of physicians who had thus made this disorder
their Recaliar study, should not be interfered with.
If physicians of this description were to be subjected
to the controul of- others, who had not the same
.laidwtedge,_it would be impossible for them to carry
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necessa that a constant inspection and
a constant report sheild take place in those caws,
If such an attettipt was to be made, he would ask
whether any advantages could be hoped, without
degree
of publicity such as was contemplated bj the
Bi ? If avower of inspection vas. to be extecliod,
ItS knew' not how it could he so properly placetlas in
persons appointed by at responsible Minister, the Sei.
cretarysof State for the Home Departtnent. . As ti
the case of persons confined for a short tithe, the
visions of the Bill as it now stood appeared to
atisliciaimiti prevent disclosure. . Upon those grow
*bold submit the propriety of going into Cots-
%tee; and by voting for the second reading
Lordships would not pledge themselves to the Fin-
tiple, unless the evils complained of in the present
Bill could be remedied in the Committee;
The House then divided inn the question for_ the
Second reading—Contents, 14—Not Contents, 35->
Majority against the Bill, 21.
On our re-admission to the House, we found the
Marquis of LANSDOWNE On his legs, and express-
ing his satisfaction 'at the declared intention of the
Noble and Learned Lord to bring forward the sub-
ject early in the course of the next Session. It had
certainly become necessary, that the measure should
be taken up either wholly, or in part, as it was impos-
lible the law could long reniain in its present 'shape.

was surer

CHURCH .RATOI (IRZLAND) BILL.
The Bishop of LIMERICK moved that the second twilit
Wis Church Rates (Ireland) Bill should be postponed to that
Infthree months, with a view to its hitreduction in an amended
%sin the course of the next Session. •
Rail of DONOUG TIMOR E entered at some length into
sii Merits of the Bill, against which he stated a variety of ob-
*Slobs, and suggested that the best course to adopt neat Session
would be to divide the All into a number, haviasfeett a specific
object; and to appoint a Committee to inquire into the state of
the existing laws on the subject.
After a few words from the Fort of !Justice, who also ob-
jected to the Bill, the Mot!en was agreed to.—The Bill is as-
cordingly dropped fof the present Sessica.-.-Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The Amond Tax Coomparision BM war pused, and ordered
to the Lordi.

The Palmer's' Repladen was ordered to be engrossed,
anCtp be reed a thir4 ihnievesanorrow.
The Celsiiiall-Aceants BM wat ordered to beread a third
date toenenew. •
The &Celt the Caatines 'Foreign Wares Acts was receiv-
ed a Oniatta- -
The Report of flutagrittutsherentnae Act (Ireland) was
brought up sad read, a ordered.
The Report of the Inland Coal Act was received, and a 81111
orders&

The Report of the Thu and Window Glass Act was recd.,-
ed, fad a Bill ordered.
The Report of the Vessels' Cargo Act was received, and a
Bill ordered.

Mr. DICKENSON presented a Petidoft front the Inhabi-
tants of Bath, praying for Amendment in the Insolvent BUL—
lead, and ordered to lie on the tattle.
Mr. C. LONG moved the third reading of the Navy Agents'
Allowances Bill. The Honourable Member presented several,
,hisses, which were read and agreed to, and ordered to Ws.,
O&M by way of riders. The Bill was read a third time, and
passed, and ordered to the Lords.
Mr. DICKENSON presented a Petition from a perste et
the ewe of Mills, complaining of the denial of justice at a trial
for Übti at the Old Bailey.—Real, and ordered to lie on the
table, atiel to he printed.
Mr. DICKENSON then m wed for leave to bring in a Bill
grounded mrthe contents of the said Petition.—Ordcred. 1
On reading she Order of the Day for the further consideration
of the Bankrupt Regulation Ili:,
Mr. J. SMITH moved, that the Bill be recommitted.
The House resolved itself into a Committee; the Aeltiod-
menu were agreed to; the House resumed; and the further
consideration of the measure postponed till to-morrow.
The Report on the Tobacco Importation Act was brought
up, read, and agreed to, and a BM ordered on the sr •;ee.
Lord BINNING moved that a new Writ be Issued for the
Borough of Anstruther, in the ruom of Mezender Maeonothle,
Esq. who, since his election, had accepted the oaks of eiekof,
thq Lairds Justicbuics of *oda:W.—Agreed to.
Mr. CROK ER obtained leave to bring la aBM to nwitiel
Letters of Administration taken In Ireland, under certain colia
elitism, Ulid in &fund.
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thor objections.
The Bill was, however, passed ; and Mr. BENNETT
and others ordered to carry it to the Lords, to desire
their coneutrence.

COURTS OF JUSTICE AND JURY COURTS OF SCOTLAND.

Lord ARCHIBALD HAMILTON, as an expla-
nation of the nature and tendency of his announced
motion, thought it incumbent upon him, with the in-
dulgence of the House, to pffer some necessary obser-
vations. To the administration of the law, as now
experienced in Scotland, particularly to the very im-
portant introduction of the Jury Court in civil cases,
his Lordship was of opinion that every praise was
due. The motion which he intended to submit to the
House was of a regulating nature, by which there
would also be a saving of L 6,000 a-year in the Court
of Exchequer alone, if it should be ultimately agreed
to. His Lordship referred to the Reports of the Com-
missioners appointed by Parliament to inquire into
the state of the various Courts of Law in Scotland,
for the purpose of ascertaining the practice and ad-
ministration of legal proceedings, and how far it
would be compatible with the due exercise of justice
to reduce the public expenditure. In one Report
from these Commissioners they had recommended
the discontinuance of one of the Barons of the Ex-
chequer. His Lordship therefore hoped, that if new
appointments were in contemplation, his Majesty's
servants would not proceed without previously con-
sidering the recommendation of that Report. His
Lordship concurred in opinion with the Commissio-
ners, that one Baron of the Exchequer might be dis-
continued without the smallest injury to the public.
In referring to the Reports of the Commissioners, it
was within the recollection of the House, that rive or
six were now before Parliament. Indeed they had
lain on their table several years without any notice,
notwithstanding the vast professions which had been
made on the other side of the House. The silence which
had been adopted appeared an insult or a mockery to
the inquiries of the Commissioners. Belonging more
immediately to that part of the kingdom, the con-
duct of whose Law Courts were under consideration,
he hoped the House would excuse him if he spoke
with warmth on the occasion. After several other
remarks, the Noble Lord concluded by moving in
substance—That an humble Address be presented to
his Royal Highness the Prince Regent, praying that-
his Royal Highness would be graciously pleased to
order, that there be laid before the House copies of
all References to any Judges or Law Officers of the
Crown in Scotland of any Reports of the Commissio-
ners on the Courts of Justice, and answers thereto.
Lord CASTLEREAGH had not the smallest ob-
jection to the motion of the Noble Lord. At the same
time he hoped that the House would not infer that
there was any disinClination on the part of his Ma-
jesty's Government to inquire into and remedy any,
abuses—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. ABERCROMBIE stated, that the Noble
Mover-had affirmed, that the Commissioners in one
of their Reports had recommended the discontinu-
ance of one of the Barons of Exchequer What
his Noble Friend had said was certainly right ; and
it was within the recollection of Gentlemen from
Scotland who now heard him, that the same person
could not with propriety be a Baron of the Exche-
quer and at the same time one of a Jury Court. In
the person, however, of his Learned Friend (Mr. W.
Adam) that objection was over-ruled; but the new
Bill in contemplation was intended to confine a Baron
of the Exchequer to his own Court alone, and to pre-
vent him from officiating in the Jury Court. To re-
novate and to improve the Court of Exchequer in
Scotland, would be rendering the public the most es-
sential service.
Lord BINNING vindicated the r-

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,4NasobalteriLoumrpdhlaoondleadguloporynt,t,htehdint trc:duzo,nit
establishment of Trials by Jury in civil cases;
hear!) His Lordship hoped he would
onsidered as arraigning the institution of 11,,,
censuring many parts of the Bill. He oh ts
appointment of so many new Officers in •
render the Establishment almost a burthen"4't,
Public. But the imperfections of the Hill v.,
operate injuriously to the principle; they an,„l
the precipitate and hurried manner in %hid) it
forced through the Hoti,e. Most of the clash
filled up at midnight, in a very thin Ileuse,,nA
or no consideration. It was a mode of ie,
which his Lordship could not recollect sa;
such dissatisfaction. At the unseasonable hour,
tioned, there were scarcely seven or eight Hies
present. After some more observations his
moved,—" That an humble Address be preser.!.
Royal Highness the Prince Regent, prayti.is
Royal Highness would be graciously pleas,
order that the Appointments created by theu
Grand Jury Cosh Act be not filled up till a
after the commencement of the next Session of
liament, or till the Report of the Cornmissiue::
the subject." His Lordship then examined ,c
clauses of the Bill. The extravagant exseenai
the Establishment deserved severe animadversies
Chief Clerk had £6OO, and three or four othe.st
each per annum. These again_officiated in s:.:1
offices before the Court of Session. They wt.„
sides, attended by several inferior Clerks,
together ten, either now acting or intending
His Lordship was therefore anxious that no
pointments should be made till the time speciiiedli
elapsed. His Lordship again wished to impie s,
the minds of those %silo honoured him with a
ing that however much he might condemn the
for its imperfections, he by no means imputed in
tional incorrectness to the framers of it. The n.
of passing it was what demanded his censure.
was a warm friend to the institution itself.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL vindicated de
In consequence of this new regulation, the hum
of the Court would be considerably increased (i,
hear!) The Officers now employed, and those s
might be in contemplation, were requisite fcr
business of the Coat. They 'ere not, however
'numerous as the Noble Lord had mentioned. '
was one Chief Clerk, and three Assistma Cler
making in the whole four. It was in co!.templ
however, to add three more, another Chief Clerk
two Assistants—making seven in all, and not tea,
the Noble Lord had stated. To enter fully into
oircumstances connected with the Grand Jury C.
of Scotland would perhaps detain the House tool(
But the House might form some judgment of
tent of business in the Court, which was daily
creasing, when he assured them that upwards of '.3
cases were no.v on the roll (Hoer, Afar.) From t!
manifestation of business, the Officers' were not
numerous for the proper. discharge of the duties
the Court. There were four Terms, and three sped
each Term. There were two Circuits. The Mom
would therefore be apt to admit, that such multip:
city of businesi required the most active exertion,
With regard to the Bill, which had received the es
sure, if not condemnation, of the Noble Lord, ever,
stage of it was .regularly announced; and if the Ge:,
tlemen of that country (Scotland) did net. :lend ai
state their objections, it was no fault of the ham_
of the Bill, of which he (the Solicitor-General) forma
a part. It came down from the House of Lords os
the 30th of April, and was not read a third time ti;
the 12th of May, affording many opportunities toe. 2
Gettlemen of Scotland to propose amendments—.
None of them had applied either to him or his Lear
ned Colleague (the Attorney-General): it was thee
fore passed. It had originated with the House
Lords, it being the privilege of their Lordships
originate any Bill that was not a Money Bill. There
are certain clauses that regarded the Jury Court only.
The Learned Gentleman then entered into a minute
examination of the tendency of the motion, to which
he gave his opposition.
Mr. BOSWELL condemned the manner in which
the amendments referred to in the motion were intro-
duced into the Bill, only seven Members being inthe
House at the time those amendments were adop-
ted. Such a course of proceeding he thpught very
unbecoming, especially as the addition of £3,500
year was made to the expense originally proposed is
the Bill. It could-not surely be deemed fair either
towards England or Scotland, to make such an ar-
rangement, even without affording an opportunity
for discussion. With respect to the duties of the Jury
Court, the Commissioners, who were also Lords d
Session and Justiciary) should, in his opinion, be re-
lieved from the performance of those duties by the
larons of the Exchequer, who had comparatively
` little business to attend to in their own Court.
Honourable Meinber concluded by expressin3
concurrence in the motion.
Lord CASTLEREAGH opposed the motion, ccr.•
ceiving that it would be a most inconvenient prece-
to call upon the Crown to arrest the execution
an Act of the Legislature, and that too within the
Session in which that Act was passed. The idea,
indeed, of addressing the Crown to suspend the law
upon anonymous authority, until a Report should be
received from a particular Commission, appeased to
so very inconsistent, and so likely to open a door
various irregularities, that he could not possibly
accede to the Nimble Lord's motion.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE supported the Motion, and
contended that it was the indispensable duty of the
House, in furtherance of its own object, to accede to'
proposal of his Noble Friend.
Lord CASTLEREAGH said that no new appoint,
'lean should, be made before neat Session, except by
—.n dation of the Court for the dispatch of

business.
Mr. BROUGHAM thought that if such Were the
understanding, his Noble Friend would probatily rot
'think it his duty to press his motion to a division.
• objected to the number of Clerks appointed by
Bill, whilst the business was so inconsiderable that
:night easily be performed, even if it were double,
a single one.
Lord BINNING contended that no Parliamentary
grounds whatever had been laid for the motion of the
Noble Lord. He hoped that Noble Lord would with-
draw it (a sign of assent on the part of Lord A. Hamil-
ton) and he was glad to find that it would be the case.
Mr. J. P. GRANT said, that he was in the House
the Dill hi question was pissed ; but he did not

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tes*aitteed reading of the aboie Bill discharged, - Looking Pl* leas silielosed In evidence, he would by way of rider.—The Hon. Member thee introduced tione
• ' 'The.Mareris of LANSDOWNE rose for the Par- ask them Lardships, whether it was not necessary that a Clause for a local regulation relative to the East prese
of moving the diet ond relffingolthe Bill for the ell the p_ classes of person, who looked for per- India Docks.—Ordered to be read a third time. move
teigulatioit of Madhouses. adverted to the minent iii4ef tio Welt:awns of the kind, should be The SPEAKER proposed—" That the Bill do his R
circuntstancesif the Bill Nokia oti,..aformer Session protected by some new measure, from the repetition now pass?' • his It
.• was laid befcei their Lordships a s for , similar object, of such abases as" "lee known to have existed ? It Mr. DENNISON and Mr. CALVERT stated far- order
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covery, war wry snouma or limier WE suyermien-
Tie Howe resolved it'self into a Committee; the Amend- quer and at the same time one of a Jury court. In ted. Such a course of proceeding he thou
dtmice'pf medical men, who had made this branch menu were agreed to; the House resumed; and the further the person, however, of his Learned Friend (Mr. W. unbecoming, especially as the addition of kii,,i(
Adam) that objection was over-ruled; but the new year was. made to the expense originally propoi
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T medical science
the peculiar study of their lives, consideration of the measure porp4ned till to-morrow.
. i • • experience in
and'uiso had all the adjrantages. that ' line Report on the Tobacco Importation Act was brought Bill In contemplation was intended to confine a Baron the B •
ill It could 'not surely be deemed fair e
•up, read, and agreed to, and a 13.11 ordered on the srrie. of the Exchequer to his own Court alone, and topre- towards England or Scotland, to make such al
_ Ate__.,.. I t could confer, and that' thesupe.rinten- Lord BINNING moved chit a new Writ be issued for the
vent him from
.officiating in the Jury Court. To re- rangement, even without affording an egi ort
ditsmtiricaltisicians who had thus made this disorder Borough of Anstruther, in the room of Alexander kisconocitle,
for discussion. With respect to the duties the
tlieir'keeuli r study, should not be interfered with. Esq. who, since his election, had accepted the office of one of novate and to improve the Court of Exchequer in
Scotland, would be rendering the public the most es- Court, the Commissioners, who were also Lot)
' 1 if physicians of this description were to be subjected thekrl". MttiliitiLltreoinof 4"4lleaandy's—tAegtr:terd to.
e a BM to make
Session and Justiciary, should, in his opinion, b
tt to the controul of. others, who had not the same Letters of Administration taken In Ireland, under under certain con. central service'
Lord BINNING vindicated the constitution of the lieved from the performance of those duties b
°knowledge, it would be impossible for them to carry dkions, valid in England.
PUBLICANS LICENSES REGULATION RILL. Court of Exchequer. As a Baron of the Exchequer
of the had no other duties to discharge than what regarded 'Barons of the Exchequer, who had comparat
but little business to attend to in their own . . • imb effect those measures which might be necessary
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would cease to have the elm of
10' he one of the evils pro: hie Conitituents felt very great alarm at the interfe- Mr. KENNEDY supported the motion of the No- Lord CASTLEREAGH opposed the motion,
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for.the cure of the aillictedtatient. nor would they Mr..BENNETT moved the third reading
subject themselves to the odium of inhumanity, they Publicans' Licenses Regulation Bill.
selfptiou, and this weiAd
dated by the present B.
:arsteitualwtass
ion e:s, h patients of this de- Sir GEORGE .COCKBURN said, that many. of
Bi ' . The Bill gave a number -rence which the Clause A. of this Bill authorised,
illrof which were to go to
evident that the informer read
for trthe attendants and
attics, who would thus the revenue, he might surely without prejudice aid
in the administration of justice in any
the informer, with respect to Publicans, who acted also in the clik the Court of Exchequer
be found parity of Constables and Parish Officers. Ife belies,- other tribunal.
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ble Lord. He also suggested; that no appointment in
or Jury Court should be
filled up till next Session of Parliament, but he be-
l' . in receptacles ed, coniidering the great number of perms ,in ports. lieved that the Noble Mover would make another mo.
erirgfe. the "u ge! of moutbthe necessity that existed to haea sna:7 public tlon on the subLect.
for the latter, under • such circumstances, to who ' ire constantly there—that no town in the Member, or any other- Gentlernais, was at liberty to
siseaos which their ex •make a .
reitsit to Ma•ay.illrthase Mamie elornwas kept in a more quiet and regular state ; - motion to that effect: -'d -
kini
eatsgKi them Wetellohet effectual for the core ofthetr aired. with respect to the public-houses_ thenseeiecc, Mr. J. P. GRANT observed, dint the duties of a The Honourable Member concluded by erre
his concurrence in the motion.
ceiving that it would be a most inconvenient p
dent to call upon the Crown to arrest the exec
of an Act of e Legislature, and that too within
very Session in which that Act was passed. The
indeed, of addressing the Crown to suspend the
received from a particular Commission, appeal
him so very inconsistent,
and so likely to open a
for various irregularities, that he could not pee
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I ' tphdliCki ct of the physicians, and it woeli4 he im- houses, in consequence of the large hecfiee sailors Lord CAST EREAGH answered, that the Hon. upon anonymous authority, until a Report show
ts u py pationti; fee there could- not be a mote they were, he believed, conducted inthe mast orderly Baron of the Scotch Court of Exchequer were so few accede to the Noble Lord's motion.
false than *a over humanity with regard and•peaceable manner. He, therefore, Arida wove and milmited as to confirm' the Report of the Corn- Mr. ABERCROMBIE supported the Motion
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to'peraens atateteld with insanity, it hen ineseeettly ,Re Clause; which-would effect what the ilencemthis leimieners, who recommended the discontinuance of contended that it was the indispensable duty o
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netomary toletteet so measures reapecs ~ tbaltlivogligl• Member wished—and, at the same time, woidd nee oat "bran-
. ' htfillery in sat ~• r - 't!c,ralitris, interfere with thosepublicans Mr. W theproposal of his Noble Friend.
thtr axis , . who were at present DOS ELL thou It the principle of the Noble
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; 2:42tg., ,„.4. :the best -4., thu... . 4 -Acting in the capacity of parish officers. • 'Maximum Mtever's motion was or ble. Lord CASTLEREAGH said that no new apt
7, reotok to tbe pneVnite of :' .- ii CT*, :, He ,prov.. 4 that any keeper of. a public-house, .w . The motion wae pltX" - wed ; and the Address
particularly obPie to dial) ._ ~ - .
•tle acted also as a parish officer, if found guilty of any ordered to be present' the .... Prince Regent by such mans should be made before neat Session, excei
the recommendation of the Court for the dispat
effecting. persons bY Voßear! 41/11mitY, disorcferly behaviour, in conducting. such' house, Members as 'were or the Privy CounciL business.
which meat 004.011,1.. lOW. Week; should.- for the first offence, be fined in the sum of 'Lord ARCHIBALD' HAMITON then rose to Mr. BROUGHAM thought that if such seer
• ' and he could c _ ammitr. to £10; and, for the second, be rendered incapable • make the iicond Motion, of which he had given no- understanding, his Noble Friend would probaq
1 the feeling* of tilt sedative than to serving in any rish office hereafter. - .. tics, His Lordship hoped the liberality of the House 'think it his duty to press his motion to a div
I have their nausea treemildteed to the Secretary of SPEAKER intimated., that before any alums would pardon bite, while- he engrossed their State for die purpose of hei% registered. He ad- proposed he Bill -mpg be read the 3d tires don with hit remarks on the BMwhch had passed atten-
He objected to the number of Clerks appoints
the Bill, whilst the business was so inconsiderable
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Crates trontht.. be read the third time " !his &yahoo: Trial
ul by Ju7r:'iled Scotland. While he objected to the..
wince in the eats y Mr. D. GILBERT seconded the motion.—but, be. steed, that no - clearly
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. Noble Lord. He hoped that Noble Lord would
``r ing unformed by Mr. Banwerr that be had miecaltee or a Warmer attachment to Juries than he himself 14 .. : 1 -ections to which the present Bill was liable. With the opend
l on „i the .Bill with respect testae duet be. bad. His Lordship hard no prejudice to the princi le
p draw it (a sign of assent on the part of Lord A. li,
resard.te pauper lunatics, he admitted also that there. chic* objeated.tor he withdrew his suppositions • Oldie BM for which he wished Ore realest succes- s. ton) and he was glad to find that it would be the
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1 abuses, and with reference to this part of which cif course fell telbeveusst.
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raattiejti, be was ready to agiec to a short Bill, res
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into effect those measures ;which might be necessary puaLicAws LICZNSES REGULATION RILL. Court of Exchequer. Asa Baron of the Exchequer Bare
for.the cure of the aillicted.patient, nor would they Mr..BENNETT moved the third reading of the had no other duties to discharge than what regarded but 1
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subject themselves to the odium of inhumanity, they Publicans' Licenses Regulation Bill. the revenue, he might surely without prejudice aid The
Would cease to have the elm of patients of this de- Sir GEORGE .COCKBUEN. said, that many of in the administration of justice in any other tribunal. his c
seliptrots, and this weiA4 he one of the evils pro: hit Conitituents felt very great alarm at the interfe. Mr. KENNEDY supported the
appointment in motion
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dated by the present BM. ' .The Bill gave a mamba rence which the Clause A. of this Bill authorised, ble Lord. He also suggested; that no
of benaltes, half of which were to go to the informer, with res_pect to Publicans, who acted also in the clik the Coutt of Exchequer or Jury Court should be °,,
al
ent
ani it' as evident that the informer Iseult! be found parity Of Constables and Parish Officers. He belies,-
filled up till next Session of Parliament, but he be- 01
asiongst the attesdants and Seiegreio receptacles ed, considering the great number of persons an Ports. lieved that the Noble Mover would make another mo. verY
indet
for 'fisitatits, who would thus be .the judges of mouththe necessity that existed to have many public don on-the subject.
tpbolsract of the physicians, and a would be sm- haws. in. consequence of the large betfies. a sailors Lord CASTLEREAGH answered, that the Hon. bPOII
for the latter, tinder • such circumstances, to wbo,itirire constantly there—the no town in the Member, or any other Gentleman, was at liberty to reeei
eliott to nianyieftliose cheats which their experience kingdom was kept in a more quiet and regular state ; snake a motion to that effect.. -ti ..-- him
tab gtO them Welles* effectual for the cure of thew -and, with respect to the public-houses_ thentseina, Mr. J. P. GRANT observed that the duties of a for v
u pi patiooti ; fee there could not be a mote they were, he believed, conducted in the mast orderly Baron elf the Scotch Court of Exchequer were so few accS4
fabe than *a over humanity with tcpret• and peaceable manner. He, therefore, shall/ snow and se-limited as to confirm' the Report of the Corn- M
to *
oflttctod With insanity, it ',Pc ,fefilifireitiy, Clause; which-would effect what theilanonnthlo thiesioners, who recommended the discontinuance of "'lit'
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netmuary t,lßEClfttOTl,!inelsr"PeC , 't t!tontittittitP• Neither wished—and, at the same time, erciild nos one "bran- Hou
:tatturf utinht 1:4 -en-to be inc. • 4 - *dila, interfere with those publicans who were at newest Mr. BOSWELL thou It the principle of the Noble the F
Wear a fad* best -4., t4t.c:.N*lo, -actmg in the capacity of parish officers. • The.eintoo Mover's motion was Or . ble. Lc
reottudto eff ;be pneVaite of :, ... !L dam. ~H# .proirM.4 that any keeper of a public-house, .w The motion was pe4- * eartjed ; and the Address mom
particsil.lrly ohPic tO thiti; p• • - Baspatr, as acted.also as a parish officer, if found gnilty of any ordered to be relent •
'the Prince Regent by such the r
busir
affecting, persons by tviiporarY thpthity, disorderly behaviour, in conducting. such' house, -Members as vere of the Priiy Council
'Lord ARCHIBALD'HAMITON then rose to M
which might 0017.401 ks kW: Week; should.' for the first offence,be fined in the sum et
and he couid c _ 2001"6.4°010 .
p&
to £10; and, for the second, be rendered incapable make the second Motion, of which he had given no-
the feidiugs of uncle
or sew relatives, than to serving in any rish office hereafter. - tice, His Lordship hoped the liberality of the House 'thin'
have their natant trooodtelli to the secretor)* of Ihe SPEAKER intimated, that before any clams would pardon hint, while he engrossed their atten- He c
&eviler the Purfeise of registered. He ad- could be proposed. the Salome be read tbo 3d tire. dos with hie remarks on the Bill which had passed the I,
mated that there Were gre-at but be thought. , -Mr. BARNA/lb moved, that. instead of ~ now • last Parliament relative to the establishment of the ..it 71-11
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the better -way to remedy them, would be to take a this BM be read the third time " this dart*. Trial by Jury in Scotland. While he objected to the by a
cool and dispassikate view of the subject in a Cam-
,stionthei Rill as now framed, he begged it to be clearly under-. IA mime in the nen eon of Parliament, by 'With Mr. D. GILBERT seconded the modon,.-bot, be. stood, that rte' patron could have a greater respect trbb,
11111eane a aleasisre might be framed free feet the ob- I. in f' as 12
-g ---....... war. affiNfIXTT that be had atienhan or a Warmer attachment to Juries than he himself i'4C)bi %ectiona to which the present Bill was liable. With the ope-adon ti Bill with respect tots claws kr bad. His Lotdship had no prejudice to the principle dray'
Jresard.tu pauper lunatics, he admitted also that there chief objeatad4o7 he withdrew his supp,airees 91sila Bill, fec whieh he wished the_greatest success. ton)
~. abuses, and with reference to this part of which of course fall to.dlngrnuat. ..1 .It van fair of the Wising& of. the English jurispru- Lm raiz,be was ready to agree to a short Bill, Thalainanthie tilen read the third tine.. deuce which Scotland tad long sought for in yam. *net

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