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CLERGY NON•DESIDENCE DILL

HOt'SE OF COMMONS.

PitRLIAMENTiIitr PRuagEDINGS.

1-101'6F OF LORDS, WEDNESDAY, JULY 6.

TL: Attl.nt wee g;v4.n by commit:4w to the Rosh& sad
Scotch Amy of Referve

On the q lie Ilion for the third reading of the Clergy
Readence Bill,

Lord Su Fro-ut Ktid, he could not let the prefent op-
portunit y pals without making fome obrervations on the
prefent meafure; and he fhould have made there °bier-
rations on the laft Bill, when agitated in that Moore,
bad he not been prevented by indifpofition from attend-
ing. He could not help expreffing his difapprobation
of the whole of•this proceeding, particularly on ac-
count of there being no provilion made for the inferior
Clergy. He thought that no Clergyman ought to
have a lefs falary than tool. a year. Clergymen
had the education, and were obliged to fupport the
character of Gentlemen. It was impoffible for them
to do fo with their fcanty falaries, unlefs they fol-
lowed occupations that muR degrade them. He
knew it to be a fad, that more than one half of the
livings in England were under 601. and 701. a•year.
It was, therefore, abfolutely peccary that Come mode
fhould be adopted for the relief of thofe who were in
indigent eircomflances. He thought it might be
an advifable plan to appropriate a certain part of the
ircome of the Church to the purpofe of laying up
fund for their benefit. He was Cure that the Firfi
Fruits and Tenths alone would produce 150,0001. a
year.—The Noble Earl then took occafion to con-
demn the moc! in which Clergymen were now paid :
the fyliern of tythes was productive of great mil.-
chief in every country where it was praetifed. In
England, it was highly injurious to Agriculture ; in
France, it contributed in a great degree to bring
about he late Revolution ; and it was the principal
caufe of all the dillurbances which had prevailed in
Ireland for (event years pall. The people of France
bad got difcontentcd with the Eccleftaftical efiablifh-
ment : they raw, that while the inferior Clergy were
kept in is Rate of poverty, the revenues of the Bifhops
were confiderably increafed ; and he was lure this
difcontent did in a great degree lead to the Revolu-
tion. Much as he difapproved of the prefent Govern-
ment of France, it had this one good character in it,
that every encouragement was held out to agricul-
ture, which was not Coffered to be impeded by the
c dledion of tythes. He wilted, if it could be done,
Tome other revenue fur the Clergy might be
f ildituted in the room of tythes. He particularly
wilted that all Lay Impropriations might be done
away ; and whatever lots or inconvenience he might
fuller as a Lay Impropriator, he would chearfully
fubmit to it, provided the public was benefited. He
bad frequently endeavoured to imprefs on their Lord-
fitips the great evils that muff refute from the fyllem
of tythes in Ireland, a fyllern that gave rife to univer-
fat difeontent among the lower orders of the people.
He hoped and trufted that fomething would (Lill be
done in that country towards removing there chi-
contents. His Lordfhip, in the courfe of his fpeech,
took occafion to notice a Bill which was brought
into the other Houfe of Parliament, concerning lia-
totes of mortmain, which Bill be fhould ftrongly
object to.
The Bifhop of Sr. ASAPOI role to order, and ob-
revved, that the Bill alluded to by the Noble Earl
had nothing to do with the queftion then before the
jioure.

Lord Somme thought all matters relating to the
Clergy were conneeed with the prefent Bill ; and he
wilted to notice this particular fubjeti at the prefent
time, becaufe he fhould not have an opportunity of
addreffing their Lordfitips during the remainder of
the &Sons, it being his intention to go into the
country immediately, for the purpofeof recommend-
ing it to his tenants to exert themfelves as much as
lay in their power, to refill the threatened attacks of
Prance._

The Lois CHANCELLOR laid, a great many of the
arguments tiled by the Nobl: garl were no way con;
neaed with the quellion before the Houle; but to
Tome of there he thought it neceffary to make a reply.
With regard to the fubjed of tythes, he would tell
the Noble Earl, that almoll all the miferies of France
were produced by the very circumflance of abolifhing
tythes, and depriving the clergy of their fupport.—
As long as he had any regard for the facrednefs of
private property, he could never Wien to obfervations
that went to do away that, which was as much the
private property of the Clergy, as the eflates of every
Noble Lord who heard him were their private pro.
nerty ; and he would declare it as his opinion, that
if the prefent property of the Clergy was done awv
for the purpofe of lubflituting another in its Bead,
he Oionid nut confider his own eftate as fecure fix a
tingle day.
The Earl of Lit/ERICK laid, however he refpeeed
the opinion and au'hority of the Noble Earl who
Ipoke againf tythes, he mitt contend that his &Ter-
tions with regard to Ireland were imfoinded ; and
he all() thought it was extremely irregular to intro-
duce the fubjed into a debate on the Bill then before
Cie Houle, with which the difcontents of Ireland had
notonneeion whatever. It was not only irregular,
but it tended to do mifchief ; becaufe the obfervatioos
were introduced at the end of a Scfnon, when they
could not be f.llowed tip by any meafure that might
cone& the evil complained of, rf any fuck did call;
and they only tended to irritate and inflame a let of
people whole minds were already too volcanic.
The Eithop of ST. ASAPH, in reply to Lord Suf-
folk, denied that the colleetir,n of tythes was injurious
to agilellilllte, as a great yin of them belonged to
laymen ; and thole which belonged to the Clergy
were not always colleeed in kind.

The was then read a third time and paired.—
Acijournt.d.

Mr. TI r vcr pteltettd a Petition frees the pitmen corieed
ftrdebt isttc Ikct, pi ar;nii lief.
Mr. sews era took the Chair at the Weal hour, anti after Gone
private butinefibsd been gone throstei,
A Merfage was brought from the I.onts.defiring the artevAinee
of the Hoek at their Der forthwith, to bear his his,itfty's Com-
ma= for declaring the Roysi Arcot to ccrudn
Mr.s ,accompanied by fevers' Member I,st tei dni forth-
with, end, on bis return, reported to the Havre. that this anvil
Abort had been ordered to the Bain& and bona Additional
Pence BIBS.

Read a ferried time, the MU for !rendering more remittal CLOW.
Anne's Bawdy INK fur the Rebel of the Poor aergy.—Cusnois-
ted for to-morrow.

The Arial/Inv G r obtained lent to bring la a Bid for
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county of Southampton. He afterwards brought in the PM, and
it was read the firft time, and ordered for the fecond reading to-
morrow.

Mr. C. Hureussrsou moved for come returns refpedling the
quantity of borne-made Spirits in the bands of the Britith DIRE!.
lers on the 4th loft. ; wbich motion he afterwards withdrew, upon
! the reprefentations of Mr. Vanfittart and Sir Laurence Parkins.
Mr. Atexawoci reported from the Committee appointed to
(wieder of the expediency of enabling the Lord Lieutenant of Ire-
land to advance money from the public treafury, towards railing
an additional force in Irelani —Report agreed to, and ordered that
it be an haft ruetion to the Committee on the Additional Force Bill
for Ireland, to make provifions accordingly.
On the Motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Plzen run r , the
difcu Mon on the Real and Perfunal Property Tax was defraud from
Monday to Tuciday.