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the Hibernian Joint stock Copotwatitti the object.
of which is to enable thticomAanpto sae od be sued.
Sir G..IILL saiVthe best way would be to refer the
evissiktrc to a Select Committee. The House, upot
%Ob.. tgeir Report, would be better able to judge of the merits

of the ems.
Mr. ij, GRATTAN said, he must oppose any attempt
to dissolve the Company, with-svirich some of the most
respectable mercantile men in Dublin were connected,
apd which had been fount highly beneficial to the
public. The consequence of referring the matter to a.
Select Committee would be to dissolve the Company.
The small minority of shareholders who were dissatisfied
Iniisltt, if they pleased, transfer their capital, and thus
witbdraw from the concern r but the dissatisfaction of,
a few was not a fair ground for putting an end to it.—
Those who principally favoured such an attempt were
persons connected with a rival establishment, the Pro-
vincial Banking Company.
Mr. S. RICE proposed, that the discussion on the
Bill should be postponed to Thursday next.
Mr. .1. GRATTAN concurred in the suggestion.
The question of adjourning the discussion having been put,
Sir G. HILL proposed, as an amendment, that the
matter should be referred to a Select Committee, and
was proceeding to argue the merits of the case, when
be was called to order.
'flat, SPEAKER said, it was not competent to the
licrillMeraber to propose any amendment, except one
for a change of the day to which it was proposed to
adjourn the debate.
After a few words from Lord Esnosstente, Mr. V. Frisossacer,
and Mr. rowan, the debate was adjourned till Thursday next.
On the motion of Mr. Lavrxer, the Birmingham Improventent
13111 was read a second time.
Sir F. BUItDETT presented a Petition from a person of the
name of Carroll against the Bill now before the House for the Im-
provement of Covent Garden Market.--Ordered to be referred to
the Committee on the Bill.
Mr. Alderman THOMPSON presented a Petition from certain
Merchants and others of the City of London, praying that the Hi-
bernian Company Bill may pass into a law. The Petitioners bad
an interest in the Bill to the amount of above 140,0001...-Tbe Po-
tion was ordered to be laid on the table.
air COU RTEN AY presented a Petition from Tetness, pray-
ils that the House would take care that no new imposts would be
laid on the Tonnage of Ships in consequence of the Bill now before
the House for the Improvement of Dartmouth Harbour.—Ordered
to be referred to the Committee on the Bill.
ALMIRALTYMELAND. '
'Mr. LA MB seeing the Right Honourable the Member for Wa-
terford in his place, wished him to postpone his motion relative to
the Admiralty Courts in Ireland, which stood for this evening.
The Judge of that Court was about to give up his situation, and be
hoped that part of the motion referring to him would not now be
necessary. With respect to other branches of the subject, they
were under inquiry, and no delay would be made in laying the lie-
pert before the House. All statements against a Court of Justice
being in the first instance ex parte, were to be avoided as much as
pogsible, and he submitted the propriety of postponing the motion.
Sir .1011 N NEW PORT bad 110 objection to the postponement.
All hr wi.lied was than the mime of that Coort abould have Jus-
tice duce thent..-Motion postponed till the Stli.of May next.
iIIIZNDLY SOCIETIES.
Mr. BROUGHAM presented a Petition from thej
Chairman and Secretary of the Delegates from the
Eriendly Society of Manchester, against the Bill before
the House. The Petitieriers to the House on this subject
amounted altogether to above ore million of persons,
the best behaved as well as the most industrious amongi
the community; and he coincided with them mostfully,
in their objections to the Bill. The retrospective clause
was, in his opinion, well calculated to loci ease litigation.
He meant tire clause which subjects any Society to the
provisionstif the Bill if they matte any alterations in
their Rules. He objected also to the Arbitration Clause,
and to other clauses, and he apprehended. tha: if the Bill
were strips ed of those dames, the remainder of the 831
would scarcely be worth passing. Under these ciicurn-
stances, lie suggested the expediency of withdrawing the
Bill for the pre-eat Session.
tbot
Mr.lloßl-10USE. concurred in the opinion that there
vete several objectionable clauses in the 11111. Among
others, tl.e Actuary Clause was one which aptly Inflame
interested in thee Societies- objected in; they dilute!
proved of the calCulatiuns being subjected to the tables
of Mr, Finial:on. which, by some pet sr ti, wetodeestreck
to be very incorrect. He was glad to IsOntersned.. .
one million of persons were engsged in those Societies,
and that the sum, of 15.000,000 k etas ebibarked in
them. He bad been informed, that the effect of this
Bill, whether wiset,y, or not he would not say, bad
induced many persons, to withalraw from these. Sc
cieties. He approved. of the principle, of as little inter-,,
ference in the concerns of indryiduals as possible.
Mr. T..CQUiI.T.E.NAV said, he had b: stowed great
attention 'to tilt !BM; be was disposed 'to adopt sotre
ensielsfixatien of the Clauses; bet others suggested' by
the Honourable Alembers he could not assent to, lest
the principle of the Bill might be destroyed. He was
**milling to give up the present Bill, as o herwise all
she itwonveniences of the old faw -must remain in force.
1,1 the-present Bill were not carried, he certai4y would.
not undettake to prosecute it in a subsequent Session.
Ms. PaIiQ'M.PSON remarked upon the facility with
which Petitions were got up, especially in matters in
which publicans, as is. the present instance, were deeply
interested. Hk hoped the . Bill, under some modifica-
tions, woulti be *per bey ei est in.
The Petition and two others were brought up by Mr.
llROUGlVAM;sisho'reissarted,un bringing it up, that
be aa.riotaisaliprove of any measure which might be
eseceasswy4or the protection of the ignorant and up w at y ;
but he thought the, present bell was a bad one; it had a
barrio?* its Ae.coontryrand it was got likely to obtain
the beneficial object, for wiiikh he had no doubt it was
intended..that be ingested tie expediency of not press-
,
iagi.it dnriag.the ensuing Session.
Mr. LITTLETON presented a Petition frees the Makes Si
Staffordshire, against ma Importation Si Floor. •
Otiliesatlei BaIIIORPE presented several Petitions front Lincein
sod other places, against the Coro Rmeladons, paying far greater
pitreittfaterto ths:Lantled-Imecests. . ~. - •
airy Ittilift4 OH presmited.several Petitions from Anglifies awl
*tine places, in the County of ROSCODIEIOII, in layout of the Cubs:
lie CjaimaiL
SI g . **STERN presented two Petitions from 'Addeo, is
Weer. reporeenetttg property to tint extent of 50,000. acres of lank!
prayintrallildhest wheat-had Wien below what warealled she
peeiltifelevithe'dity should itiertam two shillings, ea ebb price fen
ofitislailingi. The'Petiaimers also complained of the prmentrasedis,
oFtilairaveragin
DM liOiltNtii./N gave notiecof hit intention to move, at a,
siliialprebt • stage of the discussion on the Corn Iteedielea. the
adoption of the scale of duties 9f last year,. 1
lapitiona lig-Atilt chef Friestaly Societiree's;vere presented by
111r0Prkieeb, Me m, frets the Ftiendiy., ' of Pertamoutist;
birlibt Thaw,- frost ten Friendly Soeteiiiinf. ndleswirs lisii-.-
cheater, &e, • by Sir. Alderman Tainmilner (ils all'Amicalkia`
SoillitY4o.llo:bacco Pipe-tinkers'; and.',bzorti:4lb, •Ifaseter from
dk dee lhievitily Societies or Hate/lib; ttlbc•-41;terie#
ttilibtftlienntittet on the BBL • - ' - '': • - '
liir.:l4BNitY •AI AX WELL tEeNietiied. a. reisiber id Petkillib
from the Protestant Inhabitants of Cent against artrltirthes‘iffbl'
cessions tat the Roman Catholics; Skid Mr. BOtlSPesitirolisbisa
the Haman Catholic Inisabtaanri of *wry soiCaro other pawns
in the cobnty of Cork, praying for Emancipation.
Petitions were presented by Mr. P. Tnotives.frein the Mee-
chaitteatid tiaders of Dover, against the inlet itiop of 'Neagh,
parley; by Mr. Lissnim ivittn the Farmers, Ate. !bike ,peighboor!
hoodifeltaliebory, Devices, Wermiaster, and Matlboroogh, signed'
:" 410r0n5,.. and possessed of prisPetWo -the 'inisdsisse of g,
.14.•!. iwribin, for the:protecdon of s.
me; by Lord Aar
irrodi, Rom Janie, 4Fgry,o r f Mit!eries, g chit FOreign Cased
ita
Wright be allaysfd rr tot frit expoftak lop; by Ali, cilaiiiier,
on! Failhcfa and tsffoififirritit nnieststirs, itle Asricutiiirsi'
;1ne11644v. *Milli.; noel stmthie4&.'ll'eil a+stiskiy
et places la Lescashlre ; by 31r. lleassiburs, to a similar effect),

from the County of tin;Li by lir. Vinson. es a similar effeet, 1
,from 1
Whitby:y:l:lld other *cis in Yorkshire; by. Sir E. KNAToolas4, I
14 . e4llsr t, from illartford and other phrea in Bent, cite
WARD RTONfreseeted four Petitions for the removal '
of i ' intents toOte cupvation of the Sciente of Anatomy, from i
the Ysiciair, Spiesas. and Members of. Weikel Society of r
Ilt
rd
Guy a-Hospital ;, the Medea! So4ety of ..lilliburgh; the Medical.
Society of Westminster; and Mr. Knight, a surgeon at Liverpool.
The ititaurabte Gentleman observe'', that in the .absence of an.
Honourable Friend of his, he would •snot that Wait% Pres% his
motion for a Select Committee to inquire kite the manner of ob-
taining subjects fur the Schools of Anatomy, and into the Stem of
the Law affecting the same.
Mr. JOHN SMITH presented a similar. Petition from the
Lecturete and Students of the Webb-street School of Anatomy end
Medicine.
Mr. MOORE presented a Petition from the Master an 4 War-
dens' of the Corporation of Merchants. and another from the Cor-
poration of Smiths in Dublin, complaining of the power exercised
by the Roman Catholic Association in Ireland.
Mr. MOORE presented a Petition from the Master and War-
dens of the Corporation of Merchants, and another from the Cor-
poration of Smiths in Dublin, praying that the law by which di.
mates were given by counties in Ireland for losses sustained at riots
might be extended to cities and corporate towns.
Mr. C. BARCLAY moved for leave to bring In a Pin to give
the Magistrates of the county of Galway a concurrent jurisdfctlim
with the Magistrates of the town and county of Galway. He thought
it necessary to bring the subject before the House, in order to pre-
Tem a recurrence of the disgraceful scenes that had taken plane at
the Election for Galway. The Honourable Member concluded by
mewing for leave to bring in a Bill to preserve the peace-during
the Elections for the County.
COUNTY PALATINE ADMINISTRATION OT JUSTICE.
Mr. WILBRAHAM, after passing a high eulegittm
upon the general Institutions of the country provided
for the administration of justice, contended that no good
reason could exist for withholding them from the county
of Chester, because about 700 years ago William the
Conqueror, in pursuit of his feudal policy, chose to
make it a County Palatine. After enumerating some
of the grievances to which this important county was
exposed from not participating in the great institutions
of the country, he moved an Address, that instructions
be given to the Commissioners of Inquiry into the De-
fects of the Law. occasioned by time or otherwise, that
they direct their early attention to the administration
of justice in the County Palatine of Chester.
Mr. LEYCESTER seconded the motion.
Mr. Secretary PEEL observed, that the Honhurable
Mover was labouring under an important mistake; no
such Commission as that referred to in his motion had
issued under the authority of the Great Seal. The
Honourable and Learned Member who proposed the
appointment of that Committee withdrew his motion.
The Great Court of Sessions for Wales and Chester cer-
tainly were comprised, and should be considered as in-
cluded within the terms of the motion alluded to by the
Honourable Meiriber, and in this report he certainly
concurred with him. Possibly this admission would
answer all the purposes contemplated by the Honour-
able Member's speech.
Mr- WILBRAHAM admitted that he was satisfied
by what bad fallen in the way of admission from the
Right Honourable Secretary of State, and should ex-
pect the attention of the Commissioners to be directed
to the subject.

SUBJECTS FOR DISSECTION.
Mr. WARBURTON said, he should uespassbut for
a very few moments on their patience, in explaining the
object of his motion, anxious as the House appeared to
be for proceeding ton subject of still greater importance.
—That object was . simply the propagation of scientific
and anatomical information, by mea .s of facilitating a
rekular supply of dead subjects for dissection in. our
schools of surgery. Although our students iu surgery
were numerous, amounting perhaps, in London, to 600
or 700, without including the eauntry, if it were not for
the difficulty experienced in providing subjects on which
the professors might lecture, this number would be con-
siderably increased ; for it was now ascertained that
there were not less than 200 English students in Paris,
and about 300 in Dublin, besides some in the Flemish
and German schools of anatomy, whose only reason for
retiring from their own country would be found to
originate in the cheapness and facility with which they
were supplied with subjects for dissection, contrasted
with the &faculty and expense which they experienced
in prosecuting those studies so beneficial to humanity.
Taking tbe supply for these students to be at the rate of
two subjects for each, the number of subjects required
annually could not much exceed 2,000, if our schools
were as full of students as we had a right to eapect.—
How far this supply was aided by legal provision, might
he conjectured from the fact that there was no pro-
✓ision made by law for surrendering up to the College
of Surgeons any bodies of malefactors except arty
deters, who were head in London and Middlesex not
to exceed five, on an average, in seven years:. It was
not his intention at present to trespass on the province
lief the medical Gentlemen. whose interests were mote
partiCislasly at issue, by detailing or even suggestingthe
beeline of the remedy which they believed they had it
in their power to suggest to the House, so as to remove
the difliralty existing in procuring a supply of subjects.
lie would nevertheless state a circumstance which
Proved that the growth of information tended, and must
daily stilt moss tend, to remove the prejudices and re•
pugnance to dissection, which formed one of the most
formidable &Stades to overcome in the path of science.
A Professor, of well known celebrity, who had lectured
on the subjects of osteology, before an assemblage of
1,200 mechanics, much to their satisfaction, proposed to
continue his course of lectares on the human frame still
further; these persons, although not accustomed to
such an exhibition before, expressed siwish tc hear the
lecturer neat of the softer parts of the body, and ac.,l
cordingly a disinterred subject was introduced, the face
being concealed, and other precautions taken to render
.it less offensive; and singular as it may appear, with
:the eaception of two or three weak stomachs, all wit-
nessed the dissection without either disgust or loathing
—(A laugh:) ' And the body, after the operation of diss,
siccing all the muscular and vascular parts, was reduced
to a skeleton,, acid is at this moment the property of the
lnstitutioe-7{Laughterj! The Hon. Member concluded
by mooing for a Select Committee to inquire into the
m innee et obtaining subjects for the school of anatomy,
and into the state ot'the law affecting them.
Mr. J. SMITH, in seconding the motion, considered
it of importance to the public and to science, that 1
students should be deprived of the opportunities of diss,
section until the subjects were far advanced in a state
!of putrescence.
Mr. Secretary PEEL acknowledged that if ever he
eatertaioed a doubt as to the propriety of making some
'lative provision on this head, it arose altogether
Ift delicacy, and a consciousness of the difficulty of
I.' sisAltiug successfully with old and confirmed prejos,
' es. At the same time, be would admit it was not a
iglu mattes that so many ea2inent and intelligent men
pj
in that professkni should feel it necessary to appeal to
that House, and state thatthey
felt very great difficulty
in:prosecuting their nseful and humane inquiries in con-
sequence of the obstacles seising out of the present state
sf the low in this respect. Lie certainly would be the
last rpm to oppose these Gentlemen iatheir wish to be
beard before a Committee of that House, if they could
Aiggas4 a mode to procure a supply of the dead for this
*lsom% without offending Bie•lechngs of the helps.--
Por the eulightened views, pure philanthrepy, and li-

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