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FRENCU. PAPERS,

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NW* 'trOTLig• bATZD 17/iDNESDAT,
STOCIC4IOLMiIIgy 26. •
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.It is asserted .tis;stiheCoott *min speak of the
Swedish Diet as on the. point at *ohs* abroad, for the
Purpose of entering into negotiations for %fortis:of it.
venal millions of six doil•rrs, to°be•concluded as soon me
the States in the neat Diet have decreed the realization
of the notes of the Bank, which has been so often pro•
jetted and so often pot off.
People here seem to be ccinvinced that the resolution
of his Majesty, signed on.thel6tho to suspend in favour
f the ships of tht N:therlands the `Swedish act of na-
vigation, will schn•prodtice a perfect iecipencity on the
part of • the Ne:herlawcil, and lead to a treaty of com-
merce, founded on as liberal a basis as those which have
bean concluded with Fvrussia and Denmark.
PARIS, Jura is.
. The ancient S.viss Guards who escaped the massacre
of the 10th of August, 17951, and who enjoy the pen•
sion granted to them by the french law of the 13th of
May, 18'25, are now• 29 lo number.

IKOM TUE JOURNAL DR PARIS. 07 TUESDAY. '
.yIENNA, Joie 3.
Palyart Lirepito—lieporcv which have been re-
eived- from the 4uatriao .frontiers adjoining Turkey,
is will as float *Win, announce that since the arrival
of '.i'artars tent Coastaniinifple, increasedactivity
,is, observed in the Pachaliks of. Midden, Rudscback,
ISikistiia, and Belgrade, to organic; new troops, both.
infantry and cavalry, on the European system. How.
evir,from inquiry on the spotrtheic is reason to believe,
,that notwithstanding she seal of diq,Pachas, those four
.provincel cannot furnish. atovelo,opo men, which will
be assembled about the end of June, in the environs: of
dAtiaapple, thence-to repair to
,Constantinople, or into
'the .witscipalitie., as circumstancei make their
presence necessary •in Moldavia or Walachia.
IMPERIAL PAHLIA'MENT. '

HOUSE OF uRDS, Julia 14.
ROYAL ♦RUNT.

Lord Rtarxe, the LORD Ceasioaccoa, and the Earl of &farms-
anal', u hit Majesty's Commissioners, brought down the Royal
Assent to the Whitby Pier Bill. the Turner's Ma ge Annul-
ment Bill, the Esiinburgh, Ashton under-Line, Boston Harbour,
and Carlisle Improvement Bißs, and several private Bills.
' Lord Knro presented a Petition frlim the Unitarian Dissenters
assembled in a g I meeting, praying for the repeal of the Test.
and Corporation Acts. . . .
The Now-a Loan also presented a Petition from the Catholics
and Protestant Dissenters of the town of Blackburne, praying for the
abolition of all restrictive laws.—Laid on thetable.

Mr. HA Al Marquis of GaaaAm, and others from the
Commons, brought up the Constables Bill, the Cambridge Jail Bill,
and several private Bills, which were read a tint time.
OAMR LAWS.
The Marquii of SALfSLIETItt basing-moved that the Report
of the Bill to legalise the Bate of Game be received,
Lord WHARNCLIFFE said that he never could
consent to legalise the sale of game, while the qualifi-
cations for killing it remained as they now were. He
also objected to the present Bill, because it gave a
moßopoly of the sale of game to the Lords of Manors,
and no man was to have the right of app-inting a
person to kill game, but must do it himself, or must
get a qualified person to do it. On these grounds he
should take the sense of the House, both en the pre-
sent stage and on the third reading. He then moved
that the Report be received this day three months.
The Marquis of SALISBURY said, he bad hot
anticipated that the Noble Lord would oppose a Bill
which contained part of his own. Instead of confin-

ing the right of selling game to Lords of the Manor, it
was extended even to dealers. But the chief object of
the measure was to discourage poaching ; and he called
on the Noble Lord. as a matter of humanity, to join
with him in endeavouring to diminish that crime, Which
was daily increasing.
The Earl of WINCHELSEA was favourable to the.
Amendment, as he thought the Bill highly objectionable.
The Earl" of CAERNARVON did not think the
House would exercise a due discretion if ii rejecteilthe
hill, and prevented the adoption of the priticiplei:that
dame might be sold. He was couvinced than if they
were attempted in detail; all the objects whichithe.opi
foments of the Game Laws had in view might be it=

Lord

Ad mitak

the ptovis
gulate the
affairs-of •

haturt,
elf! lonta►
OtiAtifient
3:nrit
44 Bill;

in tki'eg'• krepose _ ebougt.
Was ealled:flar, . - kteonititztional sretiiitil had bet be-
Catis.l tbrro ;Ma ter *lest of the efficient inlifner in
WhiCh the IllnstrilmailSehotedord peilerha the duties of
his ulilcit.-(The Male firdi clause. We elide:stood to
.relate to MeAroits.w(iile Adniirdlit.). - ' ' •T' _ '
The LORD CcIANtRIXOR said. thaiitirt was a
clause in the Bill depriVing the Lord High Addilral -of
the cOntionl Of the droite of the Atimireltt In the tise
of Prince- George of Denmark, the Same exciptienliad
been Made, With this 'difeseisiseis co think:4le, rid. thin
broad signed a cotenant td that effect i srhiteatheie,'
it was pfOirided.for in the body of the commission. '''...
Lord ELLEN BOROUGH said hi had sirtne thheghts
df 0.06614 A clause 10 the CcipieSittee—lhat Any. teny.,
fdon Or ippointmeht, signed by Abe Lord' High Ad.
oshal, &Aid be countersigned by one of the Lords'of,
the Cbentil. His reason fpr thinking 'IMO 'il...4ltise
necessary, was the neatness of, the Illustrious Peisbnike
Mho hildllte office to the Crean. •••• • -. . • •
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he should op,'
poie such a ;Wiwi if proposed in'the cieninittee.-7
Itirs °Ste, and ore similar ift importance, had bees
held by eips4lly
.near to the prbten as the,
illustrious -Duke:. "Ibis (nice-wilt held bfjArisia'thk
Second t and the poi ref •York, as Corn mandet-ib-.
'bief, hid dew itaiii Acta for which lie alone wai ,
i'isponiible; so *Orl'd the illtaserious Duke be as An.:
.swerible. as any of ltii" -. Majesty's subjects fora any . of
his acts; • , _ • '
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Lord ELLINIIPROUOH. observed, that although
technically, be would' Writ IA practically responsible.—•
He• would • coniina-, .before ' the Committee was . ap-
pointed, whether he woad press the clause or not.—
He did not mean cc' east any slur opon the Lord
High Arkniralhe rather wished to ptestrve ... him
from any i and be was sure he would advance his own
fame end popularity most by adianeing the interests
of the Naial Service. ..

The hill was then read a second time, and ordered be emir
nutted on Mottday.
Lord DE LA WARR took that opportunity of
stating, that it had been wrongly attributed to him,
that he bacreoted for the Amendment of: the Noble
DakeiWellingtOn), upon the.Vorn Akhe hail
not, voted alfainst the Bill, he not vote for the
Noble Dukes Amendment:
The Criminal Laws Ameadment•Bill wart tilting a Consfnit*
tee of the whuje House.
After a raw words from Lord Torkanza.and, Lord TELLZIISO*
ItOOGH, the Bills were agreed to without any Amendment, and
reported to the flouse..—Adjourned. •
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HOUSE OF COMMO24;

. The Yeoman Usher idols Black RatVidr. Quails', summoned
the Home va attend the *use of Peers, to bear the Royal Assent
given to several Bills—(See Lords). •

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COArLDIATION AND ?eV! AcTl.
retitbsus were piesented from the Protestant Dissenters of the'
followtng places anti Congregations, praying for a Repeal of the
Ckporatloo aid Test ikesst.Uorp-Culclteater, by Sir li. Sarcoma;
from Henley, in Carmarthenshirg, by Nir. „Noes; from Tor-peifut
and three other places in Cornwall. by slit. Pcsnaaavas; from Wal-
inn-Orr Suffolk, by Sir W. Rowcar ; front the Chapcl, Devonshire-
square, London, try Mr. Alderman WOOD ; front Wiliam Parker,
ou behalf of theDiasentars ,of .the.Cipe of Good. Hope, by Mr.
Wu. from Stakes, Wild street Chapel (Lincoln. Inn-
kids), Somers' 'Town Blandtori-street Chapel (ftlinchtilter-,
'Rum), likktn-street depel (Finsbury), Crouch liud Chapel, and
Carter-street-Chapel (Docton' Commons), by Mr. Brock; front
Ashford, in Derby', ItY•4Ol.4l•Sk Premium. . •
A lietoris was orderedsl the number of bushels of Malt made
in Rngliud, Irriand, and-Scotland, from the year 1824 to the year.
tart; also, a similar Return of the bushels of Malt used during,
the same time in LitAidsries. 4
Mr. CH A Pl.l N presaged-a Fithian from a Place in- Lioottle,
1 Irayin4 for a Tai, upon F#areleti Wool.fihdereAim barflies/Ai 'an
• Sir .r. 10/411tritile for theftypinse of presentinsa Petitkilletri
tinreftire4 i-certain portion of ground ailed be

thattires dorldil be mitt ta nerd rirli
!My ,f.Or Uri Petitioners to hive '49 "Isiernheri to pict so
small a number as thirteen from, in order. to secure to
theft; s fiir, impartial Committee? Tie Members:of
the coramittee were.bouociby their oaths to act with
inipartiality, and he therefore,Wat of op,inion, thetthe
law skit ato,d was a-reflection opcie the character uf
that House, • Still, however, as st:verar,cr the Hon.
Members of that House.tiere related to each other, it
appeared to him but just that four or sii shoirld'be bal.
lotted over the thirteen reqrared. Moja thati;that ritim-
ker
.he bal no inclination to allow, and he trusted the
itoggestiorr would be considered by the lisp-use..; A-riot-her
pert of the present law which he thoughtreqtired al-
titration arras that,which enabled the opposiug patiits to
nt their nominees: That wat point' whicb 'me-
rited the paiticularartentiou of f;b House. The al:da-
tion of iscristiaee was 'a Most difficult. and tinpleaccant
one—,(Heii ). ;Isere was no consideration *high pt46l
induce many Members to itccept of it, and he banmelf
bad frequently excused hinsselt from filling. g &Ad
indeed been argued, that it might" 'so, thlt thir-
teen young Members constituted the,body.appstirted
the Honse,• that they btihg unused to the mgennjttand
subtlety of Counsel, might be led away, and thatithern-
fore the nominees, who were generally experientsd in
'such matters, were essential to the due-distribinins of
justice. The House would remember, liosiever, that
though the nominees took the same oath its the
other Members of the Committee, %hay:were. ap-
nted to protect the interests of thepasty naming
hem, m, and not as Counsel to assist the Corn-
waittee—(flear, hear).—He thought, therefore, that
some alteration ought to be made, although .he was
not then prepared to sty precisely what that alteration
should be. His first proposition therefore was for. the
House to consider whether it would or would nor be
wise to seduce t!.i numbii, 49, now chOsio by pal
lot for an tleetion Cdramittee; and his second pro-
position wet, whether- or nut it would, or would not
be wise -to retain the nominees, ritif retained to- 'have
,diem appointed by the Howie. Rolf first by the parties
is it preterit? .Ikfillad-firrard that.:.his Right lions
'Friend (Mrs Vgyha)Piomntird to brin*lorward.a Mee-
inre-fers• the consolidation' df the Staff respecting
Election Committees, 'and be theiefore Witted to
_.say
that he had nia desire *whatever to inteiliirt7ivith the
liboors of his Right 14onoufable Frierrd, merely
brought forward his to call thV.atren-
tionrif the Bonne tothe subject, and vithont an infs.*=
doh of pressingit. fie then -moved that the House
resolve itself into a-Contmiftee -to-consider the ldth of
the lase King- and the other Smatter tehitingtO coniro!
vested Elections, • • .

Mr. WYNN said that he had on a precious occasion
expressed it to be intention to bring forwatd a wee-
*re for the concOlithition at the Statute referring to
sicttsins. When *Aid so, he Stated his reasons for
'114274 Ole.,measurehntiLtiest Session, and those rea-
sons appeated to be satisfactory. Next Session the ex-

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YUNt: 15, 1827. • .
[PRICE SEVENPENCE. i
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the coorse of one or two Sessions. For that .Reamed for the purpose of forming a botanical garden, that the
should vote for the present B:II.
Petidotier might be appointed to the superiotendanee of such
irl of MALMESBURY objected to the Bill as
ganlen, and that he might teceive a &Airy of 5001. per annum fur •
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. „ his trouble—(Laughter). The lion. hiember said, it appeared thst
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; new species of property. Member for Abingdon (Mr. Moberly) farmed nut lbw
AIINLEY certainly conceived the Bill te•be rrag Rt,1.6. Men rm
.5 Park, and that be was very cautious net to with ‘e too I • -
, but as it miht be amended,. and mode More on access tla hi,do/11%ill. • .
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soother Session of Parliament, and as it hhd is .The BPKAKKit esplained, that it was irreguis`r to receive any
more than any thing else to diminish the crime Petition praying for a inlay to he granted by that tiousef and the • i
Petition was Consequently witbdr•wn. 111 it
mg, it should have his support. • lair. DAVENPuRT previewed a Petition from the Churchwar-
ew words kt explanation from Lord Waasismorrit tad dens, Ovasseers, and °theta, of the Parish or trethisit•grAi,
SOF SALLSBUItY, the dotage divided— • • praying for Relief and Protection to the Silk Trade.---ordered to
sotents . . : • sor .. be prlsitgd.
ot-Contents . . . . stp t . • Mf. !001St brought In a Bill for the amendment of the law
Majority In favour of the Bill-4 ' in respecwof the service g( process to compel the appearance of
rt
o was thin received persons resialror out of the jurisdiction of Courts of Equity from -
-. when.," such proem.shaU issue in certain cases.—lte•d a first
SFAIR .11,•71, PURTVOAL.
'EYNHAM wish. d to khow if it WtoAlie la- (beinlne;•flatn:lthe "to" te"lig flied t" tu-nt°truw.'—‘karted to
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his MilieStist-4ovrrnmeot to lay ihY Ida-
toriesilims: 3.lbNit.
coftiliE
joerrosa't'tonot '11: a Bidl fdor the.ProtTiresi of Purchasers
efore the lionst,-118 to the state of the sego- I
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etween this COUVittY and France, resilecting tne veroa within a limited titre. head 'aagat tithe,i"lllmordenernidnnt tiOreZ;
printed, and rtm second reading fired for to-morrow.
in of Spain and Pcittligal by foreizo l'f4011". Mr. V. FITZGRItALD pteseteed • Petitionm, roam certain t
)13DLEY aiid WAit Weald that he mu 4 deo,
o.Woetsof property in Clare, respecting the Salmon Fisheries." , . i
veering the question
,of the Noble Lord for the
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son th it he had some time *go given, for not RA LLOTTIIee FOR ILLR,CTiON COIIMITTLILL
og•will a stir,ti;.,o foe the pieiductioo of papers . Mr.ll. A. TAyLOlt
.mid, ihat.in bringing forward
i subjtit. He Caltri‘however,-nistire-the Noble the mptfessof which he had- given notice, he bad no in— ,
at the subject wile never out of the Oen cif his tentiol whatever to hurry the judgmeottif the House.
.G iiernment ;lint/Alit Only dilficAlty in giving His sole desire was to call the at*ntion of Hon. Mem- • ;. I
scd information w.is, that, in his own judgment, bees to a subject of considerable importance, and With
~of his colleagues, the doing so, nt this
pant- the View of effecting that, he wonid take•theAerty of :
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sment, svould.dO any thing but contribute to troubling the House wither few suggestions, vrhitherotild . '
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the, object of the Noble Lord. . . be fully considered during, the approaching recevs It
TEYNHAM admitted that the' answer a the was very well known and generally acknowledged; that - I, .1: I
raid *as scifar'satisfactory, as it shewed that the Grenville Act had added to the dignity and etrarac-
ity's Government were alive to the importance • ' I
ter of that Hodge, and at the same time given itycon-
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Nee!. He coittd not but consider the occupa- stituents a security which they did not betOie possess.—
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:iidjz, lay the French, how for a periOd of four But, however great bad been the merits of the-original
an indication of hostile intention 'to England ; Bill, still it had been found necessaat at different times I
;eta the Noble Viscount and his colleagues to to amend it. He should not, therefore, he hoped, be s
thought presumptuous in offering the • suggestions he ,
ituatioh of the deepest responsibility tipMi this
• was about to utter. The original Bill was passed in 1
•
DUDLEY and WARD assured the Noble Lord the 10th of the late King. It enacted the number, 49, .
en' the day of explanation should arrive, it which shiould be taken from the glass, and that such
number should be reduced by shike to 13 ; it also
e found that his Majesty's Government had not
. . . enacted that the parties concerned should appoint what I i
mindful ef their dUty•
tAlsitD Ii,IGH ADMIRAL. , - were termed nominees. During the neat Session s second • '1 I
GODERIC fl-moved the second reading of the Bill was adopted, and afterwards both were made. per-
ky Regol4ion • Bill. The Noble Lard stated its
passing,
for the operation of the first Bill had been at ok , i
iisions of ebe 8011, which vets intended to re-' its passing, limited to seven years.. In order to stew
be emitroul of the Lord High Adidirol over the that ether Amendments upon the original. Bill. had
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f the Navy. The regulations were of a, minor been adopted, he would -just refer the HORS, tq . one / I
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and lovely such as were rendered neteasiry in passed in the 18th of the Jate.reign. He himself had
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titution of the Bawd "of Admiralty by the ap- introduced. another, and upon the wptding.of that Act • ;, .
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nit of the Lord High Admiral: he woold.take the liberty of troubling the House; Pre-
higLvitLlE laid lie did not intend to oppose vjoos. to-the introdnction of that . pleasure, it ' Wei not
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•• nf vitieh he higiliy apptoved r. but he should •. _ . .
theacestcup for short-hand writers to attend Eleition • %
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,7.llin.sinittee propose I clothe whiehhe thought Cttrottlittee.s. ~ and thttcptuiequenee was.a.grsat deity. In
led:fr. as kconstitntioniil scetiYitii irk! bat be- (ac 1,, t.
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Aril,. stai toy does' of the efficient ininnei an tr9dMect,a.A.c;nimitiflCwoulJ;-a6° .*":6-,11-**.get
he iii,ori•o.,epoloeboord petibrio, the &ties of thiongle as much.knsiness in' foliiieed.dais;:iarir did . •
re.--(The ?tow ui:de aline wo ofidoistood to under the old system. in t Rica the time. -Thits- iheny.
a t)reAroits.wfihe AdniiraßY.j. ' 5.7 .r' , the original measure ha si.been..imptived VielKill•ad- .
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ad-
LORD CcIANCEIXOII. said. that/Wier' ti Sin a "Vintage or experience and of rtflectsoii andietwititn-
lhesßill depriVing the Lord High Adiniral of clines! to think Itiavit Was.capable of-still futtlieitigend-
troul of 'the droiti of the Admiralty. In the tise merit.. He teiallytriokednpon that part of.thk:liiir-.which
cc George of Denmark,*
the lame eaciptiiinflad said that 4.9:Members should• be chosenThifbaNifiFir h t
ade, vrith this 'diferetitieis to thenkidep tit thin conststittte:, ,aed thacAhat , do-tuber, 49, ifichild-**se-
iigned a cotenant to that effect ; s!beteatiteie, diked.hy the, petitienjtig parties by steak. to 13,
.0 a
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striiiifei.for in the body of the commission. "'' 11,_..14.4,..,....41i-electirio upon %the honour and ,tiiteArit • • 7of ,
f RINT.P.IIIRORAIIft ft etid his bud etWelp thhittiKrii M 10.• !•A'"`4C., Could it bo rnair.tainecf that it Was,tn; es-

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perience and istacticarkWowlent et\ As House would
be greatly increased by the proceedings bf this, amt any
disagreeable feelings which might have been aroused by
those ptoceetlinki would have subsided—(Heal). Hes
entirely concurred that the original Bill of Mr.' Gren-
ville h.d letn greatly improved by the subsequent al-
s. Mbe Amendment introduced by his Hon.
Friend (Mr. Taylet) was a great benefit to all patties
concerned ; and he also-thought that the law as it now
stood was still capable of amendment. The House would
remember that orsieinally nominees were strictly bound
to act as the other Members of the Commit7ee; but he
must confess that a custom had grown up of their being
regarded as inure-like partieans.sni therefore he thought
that some change should be made. With respect to the
number chosen by ballot. 49, being a disparagement to
the character of the Members of that House, because
it was site, wards reduced by strike to IS, he confessed
that he could not agree with his Hon. Friend. That
part of the law was intended to resemble as much as
possible the system of many Special Juries, and, al-
though some alterations might prove beneficial, he
should look upon that suggested by his Hon. Friend as
rather too violent. He did not think that any further
dispatch in getting through the Electioisiretitions was
desirable. The whole of them upon the present Parlia
meet bad occupied only three months, which. period
did not appear to him at all objectionable—(Hear). As
his Hon. Friend did not mean to press his motion, he
would only add, that it was Iris intention neat Session
to bring forward a measure for the consolidationrof the
statutes respecting Elections, and he should be obliged,
to his Hon. Friend, or any ether Gentleman. who atilt'
favour him with any information or suggestions trot
the subject—(Hear).
Th. U. A. Taylor. after a few oboerratlons In explandow,
drew lab =WOW

CORAL LAWS.
Mr. WESTERN said, he rose to give, or rather to
complete, a notice which be bad given on a former
evening, that in consequence of a Bill which had passed
that House having been arrested in another place—
Mr: A. BARING rose to order. He thought bis
Hon. Friend could nor, in strictness, allude to anything
which hal been done in another place, unless it had
been officially communicated to the House.

Mr. WESTERN rose, but
The SPEAKEItAAid, that he was of opinion that the
nivitice of motion given by the Hon. Gentleman was
only contingent.
Mr. HUMEISSON believed that to have been the
case, and that it was only intended as a general intima•
tion of his intention in case that contingency happened.
All that he then asked of the Hon. Member was to
give a definite notice, and fix a day for the considera-
tion of the subject. _ _ _

Mr. WESTERN then gave notice, that on Monday
next, it was his intention'to move for leave to bring in
a Bill to repeal the Act of 1822. so far as it Sull the
price at which corn could be imported at 80s.cr rather
that part which prevented the Act aiming into opera.
tion until the price reached 80s.

TH I

07 TRE COUNTRY.

Mr. bringing forward
the motion with which he should conclode, he felt that
he had great and extraordinary difficulties to encounter.
In the first place, there was the vast importance of the
'subject itself, and then, in addition to those who, from
their official stations or connection with office, were na-
turally the unflinching friends and supporters of the
existing order of things, he supposed he should, from
recent circumstances, be also opposed by those who bad
hitherto been regarded as the Meads of inquiry. That,
however, was the more extraordinary, because scarcely
48 hours had elapsed since the ex-Ministers themselves
had in another place opposed a measure of their own
concocting. But he should lease those Hon. Gentlemen
who used to sit on his side of the House, to reconcile
their inconsistency with their former character as well
as they. might be able. It was not his fault that he
had delayed bringing foe ward his motion for such a
length of time. It was.his intention to have applied
for the Committee for which he should ask ;hat night,
but bad been prevented by the difficulties which
were thrown in his way. He would. however, now
prove out of their own mouths, the inconsistency
of those persons who had brought forward and support-
ed the measures which produced the present system.—
But a short time had elapsed since misery and destitu-
tion pervaded the kingdom, and for his own part he
animpated another dreadful crisis. In the means which
were taken toget a larger quantity of Bank of England
paper in circulation he beheld the teeds already sown.—
It appeared to him to be an absolute impossibility to
support national credit under the present system. They
wet, actually dying under the operation, while they
flattered themselves they were supporting national faith.
What was national credit ? In what did it so greatly
differ from all other credit ? The effcct of the preterit
system of supporting the national credit was, that 11)
.debtors were suffering to satisfy the demands of one cre-
dime ; abd, in addition to that. she debtors were called
upon to pay more than they had borrowed. Nor was that
all, for the scheme was actively pursued while there was
a deficiency in the revenue of 4 millions. But the most ex-
traordinary contradiction was to be found in the conduct
of some of the most honourable and most able men in that
Mouse, who would almost shrink out of their skins at
the b re mention of levying a tax by surreptitious
means, and yet by their votes in support of the present
system, they had positively surreptitiously increased the
taxes by one•thirti. That be could shew to be the case,
and he cored moreover shew, that in consequence of the
present system the state of societs was eminently de
ranged, and fast verging towards ananehr and contusion.
He referred the House to the Petitions which had been
laid before it. Those Petitions would prove the misery
which had been endured, and the feelings which had
been excited. One was for a tax upon foreign wool, ano-
th. r was for a free trade in corn; one was for a minimum,
and another for a maximum of wages; in fact one class
and one trade waseontinually petitioning against another. I
The time, however, for petitioning, was nearly at Leone.
and something must be done for the relief of thelabooring
classes, for such was their distress, that a labourer was no
longer worthy of his hire. If he obtained the Commit-
tee for which he should ask, he would pledge himself to
prove that the existing fluctuating smalls is highly pre.
judicial to the value and stability of properly; v at
every payer of taxes is aggrieved, and the receivers of
taxes are the only pasties benefitted ; that free trade and
the existing taxation cannot by possibility be simulta-
neously maintained ; that the concealment of the affairs
of the Bank of England is prejudicial to the interest of
the public ; tharthe intercourse and connection between
Government anti the Bank of England is dangerous,
inasmuch as the interests of the Bank are concerned ;
that the country bad been injured by the silver standard
having bon to ithaipawo, and the repeal of the law pec.,

hibiting the exportation of money ; and lastly, that the
present system it a fertile source of injury and crime*
The Hon. Member then expatiated on the cause and
nature of crime. He said he would admit that some of
the distress had arisen from the use of machinery, but
the chief part of it was :o be attributed to surreptitious
taxation. He would then notice the fallacies which

had been advanced to account for the &stress.—
One of them was the assertion .that it tiad been oc-
casioned by the high price of corn. At the period
of the greatest distress, the price of corn was lower
than it had been during the prosperous year 1825. It
Was the ruinous fluctuations in the price of corn, and
nit its being generally high, which was so injurious to
the labouring population. Upon this subject the people
had been scandalously misled. 'When men in full
strength, and in the flower of their age, were labouring
upon the toads lot 2:. 6J. a week, it was not wonderful
that laws should be ineffectual for the repression of
crime. He held a synopsis in his hand, from which it
appeared that there had been no less than 13 financial
convulsions during the last 40 years; so that Ministers
could not at least plead inexperience as an excuse for
their errors in dealing with the late crisis. He would
mention only's few of them. In 1797. Mr. Pitt and
Lord Grenville were reduced to the alternative of
making peace with France, or of suffering the Bank of
England to stop payment. They adopted the latter of
the two. In consequence of this the country was in-
' undated with a depreciated paper, and the rash and
imprudent steps which were threatened by the Fi-
nance Committee of 1810, produced one of the most'
terrible of these convulsialas. They adopted the old
I standard of value as the basis of their recommenda-
tions, instead of ascertainiag, as they might easily have
.-one, how far the currency was really depreciated, and
starting fairly from that point. They took gold as an
invariable measure of valise, although for fourteen years
previous gold had not been seen in the country. The;
IHon. Member here read an extract from a speech of
Mr. Horner's, corroborative of his assertion. He also{
quoted from the speeches of Mr. Peel, Mr. Ricardo, and
Lord Grenville, to shew the erroneous ideas prevalent
at the period of Mr. Peel's Bill ; the increase of value
to be imparted to the currency by that measure, having
been estimated by these digai viri at only 3 per cent.
The effect of the measure was, however, to reduce wheat
from 82s. its pi ice at that time, to 435. to which it!
tell in the course of three years, realising the appre•
hensions expressed in many Petitions to that Heuer._
In 1821, in cmtseguence of the distress to which the,
country was reduced,.a Committee of Inquiry was ap-
pointed. But in that Committee all investigation into the,
currency was resisted, on the ground-that it was already
settled by Parliament. As the distress continued, in 1822
another Committee was then aoitlted, and, under the;
I guidance of a Noble Marquis then holding a high place
in his Majesty's Government, various measures were
adopted, having for their express object to increase the
circulating medium. The dead weight project, the
borrowing from. the Bank upon Exchequer Bills, the
alteration respecting One and Two Pound Notes, and
the reduction of interest at the Bank were all mea-
sures having that .tendency. It was the excess of,
paper arising from these measures, that produced the'
revulsion and distress of 1825 and 1826. The evil'
might have been anticipated. The price of stock and
of all other commodities was -forced to an unnatural
elevation, till at length the safety-valve itself, the course
of exchange, began to give way. But, what mea-
sures were taken in these -circumstances to compel

the Bank to reduce its issues? None; for after all
these indication!, the currency was still increased. In
7.1825a0ur months previous to the convulsion, the
amount of Bank paper was 21,763,0001. and, of the
other currency,lo,ooo,oool.bring more than 2,000,0001.
of increase in the aggregate currency during the two
years. The Hon. Member they referred to his Ma-
jesty's speech on the opening of the Session of 1825,
and to various speeches of Ministers during the Session,
describing the country as highly prosperous, to spew
that they had misled the people, and that at a time
when they mu.t have known the symptoms of an ap-
ploghing crisis. Shortly after this, there were no less
than 117400 persons in different branches of trade in a
state of bankruptcy. For this Ministers ought to be
called to account, and not suffered to shelter them-
selves by blaming the speculation of the people, for,
which they had by their measures and language for•
nished the means and held out the allurements. The
Honourable Member complained of the conduct of
Ministers with respect to country bankers. He then
read the letter of Jan. 1826, of the First Lord of the Tres.-
sury and the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the &sok
of England, and commented upon some of its passages.
It began by saying, that G, the convulsion of the Money
Market having subsided, and commercial affairs having '
resumed their customary channels." This was dated
eighteen months ago, and it informed them that the
trade of the country had then got back to, its usual
course, when the well known fact was, that it bad not
returned to its regular alarm to this day. The small
notes, which were to he.withdrawn according to law
next year, constituted a great part of the currency of
the country, and they would not be replaced by gold.
Tire country would consequently be put in a situation of
great difficuky. It was upon these grounds he urged
the necessity of inquiry. He expected the-support of
those Hon. Members who represented districts in which
the distress had been the greatest. If Miniiters were
determined to return to the currency of their ancestors,
it was fair and necessary that they should pay their ser-
vants as their ancestors had done, and if no Member
better qualified than himself undertook the task, he would
bring forward a motion to this effect. The Hon. Mem-
ber then instituted a detailed comparison between the
salaries of different public officers at a remote period,,
and those enjoyed by such officers at the present day.
He recommended a double standard of value. including
silver as well as gold—the establishment of a seig-
forage upon the whole crinage, and tl e continued issue
of small notes by country bankers under proper regula-
tions. The real object of his motion was to procure to
the country a secure currency, not subject to fluctua-
tion. The Hon. Member concluded by moving for a
Select Committee to inquire into the causes of the dis-
tress which affected the commercial and industrious
classes during the last and the present year.
Mr. LESTER said he seconded the motion, not be-
' cause be agreed on all points with his Hon. Friend, but
because he thought enquiry r.eceesary for the purpose
of ascertaining the true causes or the late manufacturing
distress among the great variety of causes to which it
had been attributed. He thought it was owing to the
faultiness of the law affecting the currency to the great
inundation of country bank paper, to the Sinking Fund,
and the over issue c f Bank of England paper. Some
reser ction should be imp rsed on country banks with
respect to the issue of five pound and tea pound

notes, the Bank of England restrained in its issues, and
the coup !trace given to the Sinking Fund never to
rise again. Me would-s4y df
Lay hie* on him, earth, for he •
Laid may a heavy load on thee."
Mr. ICING trusted, that if a Committee were up-
pdinted, the deplorable condition of the population 4 f
Ireland would pot be overlooked. Much of the distress,
he thought, of the country generally, was to he attri-
buted to the measure which had been called a return
to cash payments,—a course which amounted to little
else than a robbery upon the purse of every man iii
Great Britrin. The Hon. Member congratulated the
country, however, generally, upon the late change of
Administration, which he considered to have been, not
the triumph of any party, but the triumph of principle
and of public opinion.
Mr. FYLEIt thought that the only remedy for the
existing distresses would be found in a better regulated
system of Corn Laws, and anticipated heavy conse-
quences from the failure of that Bill in another Route,
which the country had been rejoiced to see pass, through
the House of Commons with success.

Sir FRANCIS BURDETT thought that the root of
all the evils under which the country was labouring
lay in the mistaken principles upon which Parliament
had legislated with respect to the question of the cur-
rency. Hegave full credit far the best intentions of Mr.
Ricarde, and to the many other high authorities with
whom the measute of 1819 had originated; but he
Thought that, looking to the result of that measure,—
and it was folly to say we should not become wise, in
however unpleasant a shape conviction might be fora'd
upon us,—the most zealous pArt;zans of the principles
upon which it bad proceeded could hardly doubt that
the subject required re-examination. For himself, he
had felt loth to stand opposed, upon any question,
to individuals whose judgment add knowledge upon
that particular question were held to be quite indu-
bitable ; but horn the first commencement of the

recent arrangements relative to the country, he had
believed that those who recommended them were in

error. At the time when it was first urged " that the,
Batik would never be able to pay again in gold," he
remembered having expressed very shortly his belief
that the ability of the Bank was not the real question ;
but that the question was." would the country be able
to'bear tile payment of the notes of the Bank is gold r
And he thought that the result had sufficiently shewn
that it could not. He repeated, that, in his view,
the error committed was not a recent one. He re-
gretted much, that very shortly after the suspen-
, sion of cash payments, in 1797, the Bank of England
had not been called upon again to pay in gold. The
suppression had been politic at the moment; but he
thought that in a very short time after it might have,
been removed, and the country could then have borne
its removal with safety; the fault was in Mr. Pitt's al-
lowing the piper issue to grow up into a system. and
deferring the return to gold payments until the country
should be at peace. As it was, we had broken uo, or
attempted to break up, all in a moment, a system which
had,been maturing itself for half a century; and it was
impossible not to see that those who had recommended
that course had in reality contemplated nothing of its
real effect. It had been supposed that the change
might make a difference of three, four, five, or at most
six or seven per cent.; and the fact was, that the dif-'
Iference went beyond three times that amount ; and it
was difficult to deal, with all the aid of philosophy,
against the facts that omitted before oar eyes. The
whole country flOtaii.hed under what was called the
depreciated currency. In defiance, of the was, the,
country was rich and prosperous ; but the moment
we came to cash payments, then came the " agri-
cultural distress." And this const Indy recurred.
Whenever we made an attempt to carry the principles
of the Bullion Act into execution, the country was as
suddenly thrown into convulsions, as a man afflicted
with the hydrophobia by The mention or approach of
water. The fact was, that the people, when they were
affected by this process of returning to the metallic cur-
rency, reminded him (the Hon. Baronet) of fishes in a
river from which the water was drawn off, who lay
gasping in the mud, without having the least idea of
the cause which produced their rain. First they came'
fora Corn Bill, which he really believed was a preju.
dica instead of an aid to agriculture. He believed that
a free importation in corn was the best law that
could be made for the farmer and the landowner;
and incomparably better calculated to keep up the ptice
of produce than any graduated scale whatever. But,
at all events, what folly it was to be talking of a gra-
dated scale for the purpose of regulating prices, when
that great measure of all price, the currency of the
country, rema ned subject to fluctuation, or unsettled?
And this brought him again to our Midas-like appetite
for mining everything about us to geld—an ippetite
in which he misted we might not eventually indulge to
our own destruction. If it was inked " Would be have
had the nation remain for ever with a depreciated cur-
rency ?" he should say " No I" but he would have ad.
mated any arrangement rather than a transition so ra-
pid and sudden. He would have taken measures effec-
welly to prevent any fat ther depreciation ; but he would
not at once have made that decided change, which,
with a rash and sweeping hand, had been attempted.
Tne Hon. Baronet then proceeded to comment upon
the late project of the Bank fir issuing its own notes in
sufficient quantity to the country in lieu of the old
system of issue—the notes of the country bankers. He
confessed that, as far as he was concerned, he thought
that project an ingenious and an able one, and saw no
reason whatever for its being hastily condemned. This
at least would be effected, if such a proposition were
adopted—the country would have a paper currency
free from that liability to loss to which it was exposed
under the old system, from the insolvency of country
banters; and a currency, too, which would be tinder
the control of Parliament, instead of being regulated
only by the fancy or interest of the individuals who
issued it. The Hon. Baronet concluded. by, supporting
the motion.

Mr. MABERLY said, ,that.tbere never cAtld be a
sound currency unless Parliament applied, in ;woe de-
gree at least, the same restrictions to that of the• Bank,
of England, which were applied to thocurrency of the
other banks. He instanced the period of 1825, when
the Bank of England could not have held out, in pay-
ing, at one particular time for six hours, if they had not
put out their old 11. notes. That inquiry, and those
measures which had been then applied to the affairs t f
provincial banks, ought first of all to have beta applied
t.; the affairs of the Bank of England.

Mr. PEARCE said, that however great the depre-
ciation of Bank piptr might be at any particular
peii:id of the war, taking the whole period together, he
was confident it did not.eacced upon the whole between
51. mad 61.. per cent. A. depteciation to. that amount

yinicoirrecainising
oTrh
lee
as amountthan
was
s currencynecessar
could null have prodoced all the mighty consequent's;
anettvrethruwteads
mtooirte.o attest,
on the business of the country. He felt thoroughly sa-
tisfied that there never was an over issue of paper-
Mr. HUSKISSON said. it was curious to observe bow
discordant weir the views of the Honourable Gentleman;
and the Non. Metuteerby whom he was seconded, ees
many of the subjects whin they had loth seoken
White the Hon. Mover c. nsured the measure which had
been adopted by Parliament in relation to the IL and 21.
notes, in no very measured terms, she Meliorable Se.,
conder had alluded to it as the first step M tech had
been taken tow ds a better state deur fence— (.1 ewe+
In many other respects, the two Hon. Geettenren
pears,/ to entertain notions wide as the Poles asund-es
but, in the multifariousness of the object. which theg
had bush suggested for the inquiries of a Committe,
they had been followed by another Hon. Geniemars,
whorecommended Irelaud—the whole subjectot loLsod
—for investigation. He was for the institution amended
inquiry into the state of her population, her tiade
this, be it remembered, a proposition made se late in the
Session as the 14th of June) and into the state Oohs
relations between landlord and tenant in that country.
On this last point some information had been that night
communicated to the House by an Honourab a Mem-
ber. which he (Mr. Huskisson) would fain h ,pe was
soinewhat too • highly coloured. If it was• not so,
however, how much more reason was there to fear
that 'it was a matter not so easy for the Hou.e at such
• a period, to legislate upon, as some Hon. Ge.itlemea
supposed; and how strong a ground the fact furidobed
for regret that the better feeling of Irish landlords had
not already devised and effected some permanent re-
gaudy for evils, which it must be for them most pro.
perly to deal with?—(Cheers). Another Honourable
liesaleman bad, in the same way, proposed the quits-
tioo of 'emigration—a question which had already
occupied them during so large a purtion of the Ses-
sion. Another Member desired to know whether it
was the intention of Government to abandon the
Canada,. and at once to cut off so vast a pores*
of his Majesty's dominions? The question of she
Sinking Fund, the Catholic Question, and every °thee
question which could at any time come under the cog.
nisance of Parliament, had been thus incidentally pro-
posed fur the deliberations of the Cons mitt. e—(A laugh).
It had happened to himself very often, during his ea.
liamentary career, to be treated as a wild ant vieonare
theorist—a political speculatoe—on account, more par.
titularly, of certain speeches of his about the currency,
and other subjects of great public importance. Now,
he well recollected the years 1810 and 1811, to slick
one of these Hon. Gentlemen had so pointedly tet.ned;
for, about that period, he (Mr. H.) happened to be one
of a very small minority in that House, who maintoned
that the currency of the country was then in a state of
extreme depreciation. It was not a little singular, dist
they who were now most desirous to press upo.l Polio
meat the fact of each depreciation—and tire effects it had
produced among us, could not then, by any persuasion a
dlernonstation, be made to discover such toil—(Chan
and laeghter).—Nothing was more certain than that fur
ten previous years the currency bad been at that time
declining in value, though rents had nearly doubled
within the same time; but when he (Mr. H.) and others
asserted that there had been no corresponding effect in
she value of money, they were looked upon as mere
theorists, and their notions of depreciation u ere rejected
accordingly; so that they who now thought a change la
our currency absolutely indispensable, were at all crews
not among the first to discover the evil, of which, in
adverting to it, they at present so much cornplaioed.
One Honourable Gentleman had said, that if no mess
sure should be adopted forthwith by Parliament for a
revision of the currency, the salaries of all public caters
should be reduced to the scale at which they stood it
1792, bofore the late war. Into the expedieucy of this
measure, be (Mr. H.) for one, was quite willing to go;
but in case the result of the inquiry should be to adopt
the Hon. Gentleman's proposal, he hoped that Hon.
Gentleman would not object to other incomes being
dealt with in the same manner— (Hear.) If the incomes
of public servants were to be taxed, according to that
which seemed a favourite scheme of retrenchment with
some Members; at least. let ether Mcomes, del ived from
other sources. be proportionably taxed—(Hear). The
Hon. Gent. in supporting his suggeeion, had referred
to a number of offices in the Ordnance Department, and
contrasted minutely, their present salaries with thesala-
ries attached to them in 1792. But he (Mr. H.) believed
there was not one of the Gentlemen, by whom they were
severally held, who would not rejoice to change his
post, with its duties and salary, as these were at protest
settled, with the same post and duties as they were
known to have been in 1792; for, in 1792, theie sala-
ries, though nominally myth smaller; were yet (coupled
with emoluments, since abolished, but then attaching
to them) much larger in reality than they now were.
(Hear.) As for the motion that had so recently bees
Put from the Chair—however numerous were the es-
traneous topics into which its discussion had led some
Members—it was, in sooth, nothing more than an at-
temptlo renew one which had been brought forward
by•the Hon. Member for Essex (Mt. Western), in the
year 1821. On that occasion he (Mr. H.) had troubled
the House so largely about the objects of the motion
of the Member for Essex, and had succeeded so en-
tirely in persuading them to reject the proposals it
involved. that he should not now dream or going into
the subject again, except for the purpose of
that whatever was done in 1819, to secure to this
country a standard of vim, and to fix that standard=
a permanent basis, this was at least evident—a It would
have been wrong, in 1822, for Parliament to depart
from the system they had taken such pains to eitablob.
in 1819, much mote 'scold it be wrong in them, in
1827, again to disturb the state of the currency so esta-
blished. But Parliament rejected the pi opossl of the
Member for Estee (Mr. Western), and positively refused
• to alter the standard, which, for three centuries before,
had been the standard of value in England. And here he
(Mr. Huskisson), would declare, that there was no pert
of his public conduct to which he looked back wo3
more unmixed pleasure, than the course he had adopted
in exerting himself to persuade the HAL e at that time
to come- to such a resolution. Five years had elapsed
since 1822, and if Parliament were now to depart front
the declaration they then recorded, they would be guilty
of something that he should feel inclined, almost, to
term insanity. • Looking at the motion now berme the
Huse, however worded, as intended to raise a quo
don. and introduce a doubt, whether we ought not !"
depart from the standeid, which had eo been kel Ird to
1819; he for one should give it his most decided oN°'
sition—(Hear, hear). He could imagine no rue.isurc so
da getous as the alteration of the standard of our nioreo
' uo one so .saleulotcd. to spread confusion and alai!!

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