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posed, although he was anxious that such a provision
should be made, he would not agree to it till he had
taken legal advice on.the subject (Cheering.) When
he found that it could be done, he communicated the
circumstance to the Petitioner, and told him he was
happy that a provision had been made for him, and
hoped that he would not now be under the necessity
of blowing out his brains. The allowance made to
the Petitioner was £2tl) a-year, and the whole etno-
laments of the office did not exceed £lOO, although
they had been stated to amount to double that sum ;
so that thins proeision, in fact, was one-half of the
whole emoluments. When he'communicated this to
the Petitioner, he did not expect that he would aftee-
wards s.ty—" What! take £•l00 a•yearl—No; give
me 000." The Petitioner said that he refused this
allowance; but a few days after it had been offered
to him, he (Mr. Quin) did understand,, from commu-
nications with his friends, that he was perfectly satis-
fied, and with th.tt dependence he had left Ireland.
The petitioner having stated that he had legal chums
on the office, he had given him every time that was,
retetisite to inquire into these claims. On his return
to Irel ind, he received a letter from Carew Smith,
expressing a wish to wait on him for the purpose of
discussing the subject. He had told him in reply,
that he had made up his mind on the subject, and
that he !mane to carry his resolution into executihn..
Smith, however, did wait on him, and they discussed
fie subject over and over. Some time after, Smith
sent under cover to him a minute—whether that
wldch had been read to-night was a correct copy or
not, he did-noraknow ; perhaps it was correct: and a
few hours after, when he had looked it over, he gave
it back in the presence of a third person—(hear, hear)
and told Smith that Grady might vote as lie pleased.
His very words were, " that he was free as the air"—
(loud cheers). He told them that he had nothing to
say as to that minute, and, in fact, he had not kept
a copy of it. Having gone into the country next,
day, the petitioner came to him, and said he under-
stood that he (Mr. Quin) had attached certain stipu-
lations -to the provision which it was
.proposed to
allow him. A neighbour was present at this inter-
view, and in that person's presence he had told
Grady, that if Sneith had said so, he had said what
was wrong. He had stated to him explicitly that
he would have no bargain, and that he might vote
as he pleased---(hear, hear). Grady offered him the
votes of his freeholders, but he rejected the offer at
once—(cheers); and now this accusation was brought
forward do that very ground. It had been said that
he had acted thus from the fear of parliamentary in•
quiry ; but he declared on his honour, and as a Gen-
tleman, that he had never heard such an insinuation
as that a parliamentary inquiry would be instituted
if L accepted the votes of these freeholders. It had.
been said, that Carew Smith had told him, that if he
did not restore Grady to the office, or increase 'his
allowance to A:SOO, these votes would be made the
subject. of inquiry before Parliament ; but he so-
lemnly denied that Smith had ever told him so—
(hear, hear). It had been represented, that the peti-
tioner was indignant at, the proposition which had
been made to'him, and that he had refused to corn-
promiee the matter. Let, the House judge of the
truth of this from a letter written by the petitioner
himself :-44 I have had a liberal offer, and I accept
the offer for myself; but I must first consult my
cousin (Carew Smith)', as that is a compliment which
I must pay him"—(hear, hear). Wben• he told the
petitioner that he would have nothing.to do with his
votes, there was a third person present ; and if that
person were examined, it would be found that his
statement was correct. If the House would perridi
Mm, lie would let them into a little of the true his-
tory of this affair. The ostensible motives from
which this complaint had originated were before the
House, but he would endeavour to develope the real
motives from which it had proceeded. The father
of the petitioner lived at Boulogne, havirt quitted
Ireland for certain reasons which he should not state.
Oa the 19th of October, he received the first of a
series of threatening letters—(hearehcar).-which was
to the following effect :—" Sir, under leave, you
have here a copy of a letter from me to a leader of
the Opposition, with whom I have been eight days,
in London. lie has furnished me with extracts and
precedents, and I have put myself under his direc-
tion. I deprecate the use of threats, but I will give
you good advice. I advise you to restore my son to
his former office—(hear, hear)—before the month of
January next. Inform me whether you intend to
take this advice. If you return no answer, I hail
conclude that you have rejected it. Your answer, or
your ao-answer, will he here before the 12th of No-
vember." Another letter from the same person com-
pared him to the figures of Sin and Death 4 the
gates of hell.
Sir ROBERT WILSON asked, if the name of the
Member alluded to was mentioned?

Mr. QUIN said that no name was given : he was
Galt called a leading Member.
Sir ROBERT WILSON said, it was obvious that
it could not be himself—(u laugh).
Mr. WINDRAM QUIN resumed his extracts from
the letter:—" When you gave the memorandum, you
delivered to us your political death-warrant'.—Hear,
hear, hear). The Member of Opposition, who has
came over on a visit to Me, has assured me of the
ready concurrence of all the Members of Opposition
in our favour; and to the Opposition Members you
havemade yourself particularly obnoxious !"—(Hear,
hear). With regard to having rendered himself par-
ticularly obnoxious to the Opposition Members, he
believed the assertion as false as the threats of the
petitioner's father and Fs adherents were contempti-
ble and impotent. lndepeadent of political impar-
tiidities, there were in: Oentlemen whom he knew,
that he would sooner -,ave to form a Committee to
try the cause. He would as soon have a Jury of
Gentlemen from the Opposition as any Jury on earth.
They were men of character, and independently of
party prejudices, were as conspicuous for honour,
integrity, and purity of principle, as any description
of •men that could be mentioned--( Very loud cheer-
ing). The Boulogne Correspondent, namely, the
faDierof the petitioner, in the plentiUide of his mai-
desceasion, was pleased to ;fford some respite horn
the fulminatierns win + were prepared to frighten
him (Mr. 4bsin) from his propriety ! The time for
the aosseer was enlarged from the 10th of November
to the sth Deoember! Mr. Quin, feeling the soli-
dity of his propositsou, and the correctness of his
condisct• exclaimed—l am not afraid of any Parlia-

mental". Inquiry. To all the threats and &minds-
tions of the petitioner and his friends, I hid the ut-
most defiance. My character stands on other grounds,
Mid cannot be injured by the.calumnies which have
been so,industriously propagated. Even when I have
defeated nty adversaries, I cannot claim any tiiumph
or victory. For contemptible Indeed
.must be the
cause of that man, who can claim a victory over a
person who has neither truth, honour, nor patriotism.
Such are my sentiments, Mr. Speaker. and to the
judgment of this Honourable House do I commit
myself—( Long an I laud cheering). Mr. Quin, after
his animated vindic ition, immediately retired.
Sir ROBERT WILSON .wished to assure the
House that he had never hea4of the Petition till the
week before it was pre,ented—(hear,hear)—and con?
sequently he could not be the person mentioned by
the petitioner's father—(hear, hear). With regard to
the statements contained in the petition, it Was not
for him to give an opinion on them. They appeared
to be questions of fact, and as such could be sub-
stantiated or disproved only by evidence. He was
not prepared to say what mode of proceeding would
be proper, and he would take the sense of the House
on the subject. Ile should propose that the matter
be referred to a Committee.
Mr. PETER MOORE thought, that notwitht
standing the able defence of the Honourable Gentle-
man, they should proceed to the inquiry, because it
was a question in which the House was evidently
Implicated.
Mr. WYNNE, in justice to the honour of the
House, was clearly of opinion that an inquiry ought
to be instituted. If the allegations were true, they
formed a'breach of privilege, and called for the in-
terposition of the House if false, it would appear as
one of the most wicked and abominable conspiracies
ever heard of. Ile proposed an Amendment, that
the matter of the Petition be beard at the Bar of the
House.
Sir ROBERT WII.SO* readily acquiesced to this
Amendment, which, with leave of the Honourable
Member, he would leave as the Motion' withdrawing
the original one which he had proposed. He con.
eluded by seconding Mr. Wynne's amendment, which
now stood as the motion.

Lord CASTLEREAGH thought, that as the ca-
lumnious and threatening letters had received a com-
plete refutation from tke Honourable Member's able
speech, he saw no reason for troubling the House
any more on the subject. It was evident that there.
had been no grounds for the charges ; and he never
beard a case better made out than that by the Ho-
nourable Member who had just retired. His Lord-
ship, however, would not oppose the Motion.
Mr. WYNNE improved his Motion, by adding,
that the matter of the Petition be heard at the Bar of
the House on Monday fortnight.
A conversation now ensued on the propriety of
summoning all the parties concerned to the Bar of
the House. The speakers were—Mr. COURTNEY,
Mr. WYNNE, Mr. C. HUTCHINSON, Lord CASTLE-
REAGH, Sir JOHN NEWPORT, Mr. TiERNEY, MT.
BEOUGHAM, &c. &c. when the parties were ordered to
appear at the Bar to answer any question put to them.
Mr. WYNNE afterwards suggested, that the in-
quiry, in justice to the honour of the House, ought
to be as speedily as possible. He therefore proposed
Monday se'nuight.—.The letter having been read,
Mr. W. QUIN verified having received it, though
there was no direction upon it.
Mr. COURTNEY, whatever he might think of the
offence which the letter constituted, wished at pre
sent to take no further step than to secure hlr.
Grady's attendance, that he might hereafter be forth-
coming when wanted. lie therefore moved that Mr.
Grady be summoned to attend at the Bar of the House.

. The SPEAKER stated, that the regular course
would be for the House in the first place to decide
whether the letter was a breach of .the privileges or
not? If it were found to be a breach of privilege,
then an order for the attendance of the writer might
be moved for.

After a desultory conversation between Mr.Counr-
NET, Sir J. NEWPORT, Mr. BATHURST, Lord CAST-
LEREAGH, and Mr. W. Qom, who stated that he had
4ot the least wish of inflicting punishment, but that
his only object'was to clear himself.
Mr. WYNNE moved, that it be recorded on the
Journals of the House, that " the writing and sending
of the said letter to the Hon. Member, was a high
breach of the privileges of the House."
The motion was agreed to nemine contradieente,
after a few observations from Mr. BROUGHAM.
Mr. COURTNEY then moved, that Thos. Grady
do forthwith attend this House, which was agieed to.
Mr. COURTNEY, understanding that Mr. Grady
was in attendance, moved thathe be called in.
Mr. GRADY having been introduced at the Bar,
The SPEAKER desired him to look at the letter,
and to say whether it was his hand-writing ?
Mr. GRADY took the letter, but said, that for 15
years he had been unable to read any hand-writing
by candle-light.
A light was then handed to Mr. Grady, and the
SPEAKER repeated his question.
Mr. GRADY could not make out the hand-writing,
and had no recollection of having sent that letter to
the Honourable Member.
The witness having been ordered to withdraw,
Mr. BANKES suggested the propriety of haying
the letter read aloud to him, as he could not read it
himself, that from its contents he might judge whether
it was his own.

Mr. MARTIN did rot see how hearing a letter
read could enable Mr. Grady to ascertain whether it
was his hand-writing.
Mr. GRADY was then recalled.
The SPEAKER directed him to attend while the
letter should be read to him.

The letter having been read aloud,
The SPEAKER asked Mr. Grady, whether he
now could state positively that he was, or was not,
its author?

Mr. GRAD? replied, that he had privately written
about twenty sheets of speculative opinions upon the
subject, but had not embodied them into any letter
or publication. He had neves sent that latter to Mr.
Windham' Quin.

The SPEAKER
bad or not written
Mr. Gem,* did
the shape of that 1
thiag of that :1
lisped it, or shown
The SPEAKER

II could not deny hiving written something of the cha-
racter of the letter, though not in the terms of the
present.
Mr. GRADY.-41 Or amounting to a letter addres-
sed, or to be addressed, to Mr. Windham Quin; or
in the share of any letter.-
The SPEAKEIi.—" Does the witness mean to say
that he has neither sent, nor authorized to be sent,
the letter which has been read

Mr. GRADY had never written any thing in the
shape of that letter.
The witness was then ordered to withdraw.
Lord CASTLEREAGH thought, that after what
L had just passed, there was no other course to pursue
than to order Mr. Grady to be taken into the custody
of the Serieant at Arms, till a more favourable state
of light should enable him to decide as to the iden-
tity of his hand-writing ; unless his Honourable Friend
(Mr. Windham Quin), who had received many letters
from Mr. Grady, should be able to settle the question.
Mr. WINDHAM QUIN repeated, that he had no
wish to bring down any punishment upon Mr. Grady,
but that the letter which he had received was in his

hand-writing.
•Lord CASTLEREAGH rose to move that Mr.
Grady be committed to,the custody of the Serjeant
at Arras, as his hand-writing had been proved.
The SPEAKER stated, that it was necessary first
to record that Mr. Grady had strittn and sent the
said letter.

Mr, BROUGHAM thought that the breach of pri-
vilege had been completely made out.
After a few words from Mr. COURTNEY, Mr.
WYNNE, and Mr. Alderman WOOD, who contended
that the sending of the letter had not been proved,
whilst Mr. BATHURST maintained that its having'
been received was sufficient proof, the suggestion of
the SPEAKER was adopted, and it was otalered to be
recorded oa the Journals of the House—,, That
Thomas Grady, in having written and sent the said
letter, had been guilty of a high breach of privilege."
BANKES then moved, that for the said
offence Thomas Grady be committed to his Majesty's
Jail of Newgate.
The Motion was agreed to, and the SPEAKER di-
rected to issue his warrant accordingly.
Sir ROBERT WILSON then moved, that Thomas
Goold, Esq. Daniel Gavin, Esq. Richard Smith, Esq.
Thomas Mansell, Esq. David Roche, Esq. and Tho-
mas William Grady, Esq. be directed to attend the
House, with certain papers relative to the case, on
Monday se'nnight.—Agreed to.

Lord CASTLEREAGH postponed his Motion which stood
for toanorrcov, respecting State Prisons, to Monday next.
' Mr. HOWORTH postponed the Motion repectinj India
Affairs, which stood for to-morrow, till Tuesday fortnight.
Generel HART snored for an Account of the Revenue pro-
duced by Small Stills, holding less than one hundred gallons, in
Ireland.—Agreed to.
On Mr. Alderman WOOD'. Motion, the Minutes of the
Evidence taken this day before the House, on the case of kr.
Grady, wire ordered to be printed, after a short conversation
between Mr. Wens.; Mr. P. blooaa, Sir RJIMIT Wissos, and
Mr. Hirramossex, who considered the case a most extraordinary
and hard one, and bad given no vote for the commitment of
Mr. Grady.

Mr. Jotimoii, from the Office of the Chief Szcretary for Ire-
hutd, presented at the Bar an Account of the Number of Per-
sons imprisoned in the several Jails of Ireland. Also an Aceount
of the quantity of Wine imported into the same country.—Ur.
dered to he on the table.

A Petition was presented from several of the inhabitants of
the County of Limerick, praying for an alteration or repeal of
the Hearth and Window Tax.—Ordered to lie on the table.
A Petition was presented from the Tanners of the couhty of
Limerick raying that tite Tax particularly affecting their Trade
might be framed as that on or before the year 1795, when they
paid so much per pound weight—Ordered to lie on the table.
CURWEN presented ; Petition frost certain Inhabitants
of the County of Cumberland, praying fur an alteration of tile
Poor Laws.—Ordered to lie on the table.
Sir EDWARD KERRlSOMPresented the Report from tbe
Committee appointed to consider a Hill for the batter Recovery
of Small Debts.—Ordered to lie on the table.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM obtained leave to bring in a Bill for
the better lighting and Paving of St. Giles's i■ the Fields and
St. George's, Bloontsbnry, both in the County of Middlesex.
Mr. STURGES BOURNE presented his Bill for the Amend-
talent of the Poor Laws.--It was read a first time, and ordLrcil
to be read a second time to-morrow.

Sir H. PARNELL prevented ;I;ctition from certain Tradtbi.
tans of Ninah (Ireland), in favour of Roruan C..thu!ic
. . .

pation.—Ordeied to be printed, and to lie on the table.
The Report from the Committee appointed to try the merits
of the contested Election fir the County of Leitrim was pre.
stilted, by which it is declared that Luke White, Esq. the sit-
sing Member, is fairly and duly elected ; that the Petition
against him was frivolous and vexatious; but that the vindica-
tion of the sitting Member was neither frivolous nor vexatious.
The Report was ordered to lie on the table.
The SPEAKER intimated that Rickard Clarke, Esq. Peti-
tioner against the Return for Haslemere, had neglected to enter
into his recognir.anee in the time allowed by the liouse.—The
order for the further consideration of the said Petition was of
course discharged.
A Bill was presented for the better regulating and directing
Vessels propelled by Stearn.—lt was read a first time, and ur-
dered for a secoud reading to-morrow.
Sir JOSEPH YORKE. moved, that Edward Penny, Esq.
have leave of absence for tne nsonth on urgent business. The
Honourable Member, to corroborate his motion, stated that Cap-
tain Peliew was Commander of a three-decker!
Mr. WYNNE thought that was no reason for cons•anting to
the motion. Instead of persuading the House by stating that
the Honourable Member was " Commander of a threseiecker,"
he (Mr. Wynne) recommended to the Honourable Mover to
say, that the absence was requested on " private" business. It
would aot be on " public" affairs, as the Commander of a three-
decker in time of peace had " no urgent public vocation."
Sir JOSEPH YORKE endeavoured to vindicate the grounds
of his motion, by assurances that Captain Pellew's absence, if
granted, would be on " public" business. He therefore worded
bis motion " on public business."
Lord CASTLEREAGH advised-the Honourable Moier
either to withdraw his motion, or to say on what " public",
business.

The motion was then withdrawn, when the convocation eras
dropped.
Sir 11. PAIINftI. me to move that the consideration of the
Drogheda laration Irethion•be deferred— bus, on account of the
scull number of Members present, ho pot up his intention, on
the ar,gestion of Lord CAirtearann. Adjourned.