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siTiosAL ‘IONChIgIitT IN.SCOTLAND,
To coNtssr.)MRATI THZ 01,01tIOUS
. • k\r) 31l1.1TARY ACHIEVSSIENTS OF
TM:LAW:WAR.
IF.STiVAT. is to be bad in Fats MASON'S TA-
Queel-stract, on SATURDAY, the 22d
ism which it is hoped will be attended by the Noble-
""..rd t;erilemen con:-.ected with Scotland, now resident M
„r the Neighbourhood, and by those' Noblemen and
3,,n belonging to other parts of the Melted Kingdom,
;;i be desirous of co-operating in so laudable a Measure.
114 Grace JOHN Duke of ATHOLL, in the Chair.

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HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY 18-4
Their Lordships, in a Committee,of Privileges, /sepal *ante
evidence with retpect to the verification of' N'iscotinf Nostril-
LAND'S tight to vote for a Representative Peer of Ireland, &c.
But farther evidence upon certain points being formally neces-
sary. their Lordships adjourned their proceedings accordiagly,
without corning to the usual decision.
The House then resumed, and after prayers were read,
The Earl of II ARDIV I CKE` presented a Petition, most nu-
merously signed, from the City of London and Borough of South-
wark, against the present Coal Duties.
On the motion of the Earl of LAUDERDALE, a variety
of Accounts—respecting the Copper Coinage, the quantity
coined thereof by Mr. Bohnn ; tht Contracts made for fresh
Coinages; the Quantities of Gold Coin tzparted within certain
given intervals ; the Seizures made, and the quantities of Gold
and Silver in bars, &c. were ordered to be laid before the House.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a I'utitton from the
County of Kilkenny; praying the Repeal of the Window Tag
In Ireland.

The Noble Earl, in the absence of his Noble-Friend the
cretary of State for the Home Department, presented cc;
further Returns respecting the state of the Prisons in Eng
end Wales.

The Chimney-Sweepers' Regulation Bill being recommitted,
some additional amendments were proposed by Lord AUCELANTI,
which, after some conversation, were agreed to by the Commit-
tee. One or two of the clauses in the Bill created some discus-
sion in the Committee, with respect to which it was held that
some ulterior consideration was necessary.
in the course of this, the LORD CHANCELLOR observed

that any Act for regulating a particular Trade was certainly a
private Act.
The clause towards the end of the Bill, which referred to the
appellation under which the Act was to go, would eettairdy tend,
observed the Noble and Learned Lord, if the Courts in West-
minster Hall were recurred to, to a considerable difference in
the expenses.—ln the result, the Bill was ordered to be re-
ported to-morrow.

The Barnstaple Bribery Bill was brought up from the Com-
mons by Lord CUTE and others, and read a first time ; u were
a considerable number of private or local Bills, presented by
Mr. WORTLEY, Mr. BLACIMOILNE, Mr.,,MILLS, Mr. PELHAM, and
other Mecibers

The Revenue Payments' Bill passed through a Committee of
the whole House, and was reported.
The remaining Bills having been respectively forwarded, the
House adjourned till to-morrow,

HOUSE OF COMMONS..

The SPEAKER informed the House, that C. Pirr, •Eaq.'
who had petitioned against the return for the Borough of Camel.
ford, had not entered into the retognizances required.—The or-
der for taking the Petitiott Into consideration was then discharged.
Lord A. HAMILTON presented a Petition from Selkirk,
against the Bill pending in the Howe, for appointing Auditors to
the Scotch Royal Boroughs.—Read, and ordered to (w printed,
Mr. ELLISON presented a Petition from the Tradesmen of
Lincoln, against the reqestral of the Insolvent Debtors' Act...—
Referred to the Committee. • _ _ _

Mr. WESTERN gave notice, that on the 47th of May, he
should submit a proposal to the House, to procure a snore fre-
quent Jail Delivery. He had not yet made up his mind whe-
ther be should move that an Address be presented to the
Prince Regent, or
_that the subject should be referred to a Select
Committee. •
PALMERJde. presented a Petition from Reeding. praying
for a revision of the Penal Laws.—Referred to Committee.
Mr. DENMAN presented a Petition from the Attorneys of
Nottingham and its vicinity, praying. for an akeratiot in the
Conveyancing Laws. They complained that as the law now
stood, Attorneys could not enter upon the exercise of their pro.
fusion without having served their time with a master, whilst any
person /night act as a Conveyancer, by merely entetil4 kis name
at one of the Inns of Court.
The Glasgow Water Works' Bill was read a third time and
passed.
General GASCOIGNE (after obtaining leave) presented a
Petition from the African Company, praying for aid from Par-

liament.--Lsid on the table.
Lord DEERH MIST presented a Petition, very numerously
signed, from Worcester, praying for a Revision of the Criminal
Code.—Laid on the table.
Mr. J. I'. GRANT moved for Accounts of the price of Stan-
dard Silver from 1818 to 1819 ; of the quantity of Gold and
Silver Coln, Bullion, and Wrought Plate, exported from 181
to 1819, to different countries ; of that exported to Ireland du-
ring the same period ; of the Bullion and Coin seized under the
authority of the Statutes regulating the same, from 101 l to
1819 ; and for the same period, of the quantity of Gold and Sil-
ver Coin, Bullion, and Wrought Plate, imported into, this
country, distinguishing the metals and places from whence im-
ported; of the Gold delivered out of the Bullion Office to the
Bank of England, and private individuals, and of the amount of
*Gold deposited by the Bank into the Bullion Office. And also.
returns of the Copper Coin issued since 1790—0 f the Contracts
made for the supply of that article ; and of the market price of
Copper during that period.—Agreed to.
Lord MILTON moved.fer an Account of the number of Bri-
tish Officers employed under his Majesty's License, in the ser-
vice of Foreign States, distinguishing their respective ranks, and
the States by whom they were employed.—Agreed to.
The Barnstaple Bribery Bill was read a third time and passed.
Sir F. BURDETT presented a Petition from Mr. Mailison,
praying a remuneration for his Life-Presetkrer, and that a Com-
mittee be appointed to inquire into the merits of the Invention.
Laid on the table.
The Irish Clerks of the Peace Bill went throich a Coos.
mittee.—Report to-morrow.
BARNSLEY CHURCH.
Mfr. STUART WORTLEY moved the second reading of
the Barnsley Church Bill.
Lord MILTON said, that many inhabitants of the place
were against the measure, aud wished it to be postponed till the
next Session. Ho therefore moved that the Bill be read this
day six months.
The House divided—For the original Motion, 64—For the
Amendment, 27—Majority for the Bill, 37.
MARQUIS CAMDEN.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought in
the Marquis of Camden's Profits Appropriation Bill.—Read a
first tune. On the motion that it be read a second time.
Mr. FREEM A NTLE, not having been present at the time
the subject was introduced, took this opportunity of expressing
his admiration of the conduct of the Noble Marv's. He ski
called the attention of the House to the public spirit of die'
Marquis of Buckingham, who, when Teller of the EXchequeir,
had sacrificed the whole of his profits for three years preViose
to his decease.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER joined to the
praise bestowed on the Marquis of Buckingham, and had ISO
doubt, that if he bad survived the war, he would have condo
nued to apply a great proportion of the profits of his office to the
public service.
The Bill was then ordered to be read a second time on Fri.
day next, and to iic printed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then brougit
in the Scots Churchesßilt Read a first me,
and ordered fog
a second Seeding on Tuesday next, and to be rinted.

ELECTION RECOGNIZANCE&

The SPEAKE henormed the House that since what )le.bad,
stated respecting neglect of C Pitt, Esq. to entei into his.
Recognisance', lie had received a letter from that Gentleman,
declaring that the Examiners, C. Thomson, Esq. and J. IL Lee,
Esq. had appointed this day far the examination of his Sureties,
ootwithstanding which, on arriving at the Otlice, be bad been told,
he was one day too late. He trusted that as there was isis neglect
op his part, the Speaker would suspend any comeassoikatio‘ax?
the House on the subject. Now the law was ingerativet
even bad Speaker) received the letter be.fore entering e
limo, he must here made the wassmulication which he bad

day
Simians generally left to the choice of. the Petitioner, that Is,
might consult hi awn convenience. Dlr. Pitt.had appointed this
day, with the consent of the Examiners, who had since discover-
ed that it was beyond the 'time allowed by the Act. They)]
proposed, however, to examine the Sureties before Mr. Pitt took
any further step in the business. This he had refused. As this
Gentleman would probably petition the House, he (the Speaker)
had thought it his duty to offer the present explanations.
PaorEirry TAX AND LONDON cI.ERGY BHA..

Sir J.
for the rroperty Tax in the City of London, be referred to the
Committee sitting up stairs On the London Clergy lielL •
' Mr. Alderman WOOD considered till • most extraordinary
proposal. The Chancellor o( the Exchequer had long since
pinked himself that those Returns should be deftroyed, end yet
they were still in eaistence!' The Honourable Baronet had yes- ,
terday presented them to the Committee to make themothe
ground-work of the Assessment intended to raise the Stipends.
of the London Clergy. They had then heirs rejected by that
Committee, and now he wished,t• introduce/le/n.4 appealing
to the authority of the. House ! •. .
Mr. C. CA I.VERT stated, that those Payson contained the
Assessment made ,eves years Ago. Now, Property. had so coo-
l/ids:ably decreased in value, that fir the Parish with which he
ANN Soot losisnately connected, the •Assesurients widchln i • 1.1
amounted to £1.5,000, were not in the present year above
£ll,OOO. Would it he fair, therefore, to employ the Returns
in question as the ground-work of a new Tax on the-Parishes cf
'London ? If the tionourable Baronet persevered in his motion,
he should take the sense of the House upon it.
Sir J. NEWPORT objected to the production of those Pa-
pert, because it was expressly understood that they were to be
destroyed, in order to tender it impossible that they should be
made the basis of future taxation. After such solemn pledges
had been given, not qrily that they should be destroyed, but that
they Were.undergoing the process of destruction,' could it be to-
lerated that they should now be brought forward in tke manner
proposed?
Sir J. GRAHAM maintained, that the only pledge given had
been to destroy the Returns connected with the profits of trade.
Those of real Property were always intended for preservation.
Sir hl. W. RIDLEY conteneed, that the Chancellor of the
Exchequer bad pledged himself that every Return connected
with all the Branches of the Property Tax should be destroyed.
It was on account of that pledge alone that his Honourable and
Learned Friend, the Member fur Wurchelsea (Mr. Brougham)
had not pressed the subject to a division. If those Returns still
existed, there was some culpable neglect somewhere;. either in
the Ministers for not giving the order to destroy them, or in the
Officers of the Revenue for not obeying that order.
After a few observations from Mr. Alderman Warntatax and
Mr. N. CALVERT,
Sir J. GRAHAM consented to withdraw his motion •
STATE OF THE NATION.

Mr. TIERNEY rose, pursuant to his notice, w
call the attention of the House to the State of the
Nation, and to request a portion of that indulgence
which he had so often experienced, and which,, he
trusted, would not be now denied. The best•reture
which he Could make would be to occupy as little of
'its time as possible.
,The question which he should
repose for the adoption of the House would be, that.
it resolve itself into a Committee to consider the
*ate of the Nation. He was aware that if be was,
.seting as a mere party man, he should Asian\ from
vakink chip motion. He knew that in point of Flirty
considerations he was giving up some considerable
advantages lie could hardly conceiveehat the party
to which he and his friends stood opposed, could
ever be placed in a less enviable situation than it at
present occupied. He had never seen a set of men
more cuffed and kicked about, and bearing all with
more patience than the Gentlemen opposite, with
the Noble Lord at their head--(Hear, hear.) He
could not comprehend, if it were his wish to close
the Session by a party triumph, a more effectual
mode than leaving things as they stood. For who
had ever beheld an Administration more lowered
than the present?—(hear, hear.) More dead to all
just feeling of government?—(Hear, hear.) More
solely attached to keep itself in office?—(l4ear, hear.)
They had brought forward no public measures what-
ever, whilst those which the Opposition had pro-
posed had all been carried in spite of the decLima-
tions of Ministers, who represented that the country
would be ruined by their adoption—(Hear, hear.) An
Hon. and Learned Friend of his had introduced the
subject of the penal laws. If the motion be carried,
said the Honourable Gentlemen opposite, the very
foundations of the legislature are shaken. But the
motion was carried, and Ministers immediately made
up their minds to the measure. An enquiry was pro-
posed by another Noble Friend of his into the'abuses
of Scotch Royal IBurghs. If you agree to it, said
a Right Hon. Gentleman, whom he did not now see
in his place, (Mr. Canning) nothing is secure in the
Erapire-..-property is not safe, and the revolution is
commenced. That measute was also carried, and all
remained quiet on the side of his Majesty's Ministers.
(Heai-, hear, hear.) He was not so dull, therefore, as
not to see the advantage ground on which he sto:id,•
if. party triudiph were his sole object. But he had
igher duties to perform, and was willing to aban-
don all the advantages which he possessed, to dis-
charge, and he was dischargin a great and impor.
tant duty to the country. IfMinisters, whilst go-
verning the EMpire, would not take care of their
own dignity, the House must protect its own—(hecr,
hear, hear.) The issue Of his motion, however, was
scarcely doubtful; for when it was considered that
on one side seal stood alone ; and on the other, all
the weight and influence of the Crown, who could
entertain any sanguine hope of success ? He spoke,
however, to a House of Commons (having sat in
many)to which more, Members belonging to no party,
and really voting for measures and not for men, had
been returned than he had ever yet witnessed. Andi
he knew and trusted that if he could succeed in
making out his case, they would be found with their
votes at the settling-of the balance and the close of
the discussion. He had two positions to establish.--
He had to poste first, that the state of public affairs,
was full of difficulty, danger, and alarm, and re-
quired theutmost vigour iu Council—oesondly, that
it was the duty of tht House to iuterfere, and to sr!-
, solve itself into a Committee on the State of the• Nae:
tion. He did not mean an officious party interfe-
rence, but such a one as was called for by the situa•
tion of public afrairs. He did not ask 1-1011oUrable
Gentlemen to lend their assistance to embfmisi the
wisdom and energy of the Ministry ; but 'yfbeo.ther
could neither find- niesioni"nor energy, he.allecl *pm
them to interpose.betiveen a weak Adniinistration and.
a tottering country, and to perform the most#iwfl.

A*

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'.ll nations had lately beer, engaged in making ep the
inroads which war had effected amongst thent, and
improving the state of their finances:. We alone, of •
all nations, had not devoted our attention flit a
merit tb that most impottant of all subjects: In treat-
ing the present question, he 'should; as much ae posst...*
ble, limit himself to the areangenients of our finanett,
without bearing on foreign affairs any more than they. 4*
bore on the eolestfun. The. world *as new blessed by
II eivee with a prpfound peace. •He hbpiel it might. •
long continue. But Europe, notwithstanding tile Omer-
tions•ef the Noble Lord opposite, was not in that srateitt •
which we could look forward to duration and stability:
Its whole system, as far as we were corteerned,avas
changed. It was entirely' new to this country. -111-1
then° we lldd had bur eeparate atliatices with this oill;
with that Power in elder tb cerenteract the hostility•
of others. But trew W had.become•one of the flee
Powers who took thenpselves, he would not nil
improperly, to sert he destinies of the Continent.
Whether 'we had any Allies more particularly con-
nected with Ou'helves, he•cild not know, but by the
admission of France to the 'Holy Alliance, five instead
•f four Powers now ruled the fate of Europe. The
conduct of Front* during,thie occupation of her terri-
tories hid been' so satisfactory to the Allies, .that she
had been invited to join the Holy Alliance, in whic,h
he supposed we had one vote and no snore. But the
whole of that Stare appeared most uncertain: It was
bound by nothing but professions. When the foreign
troops had been withdrawn from Frani", and a com-
munication had been made to her through the Duke
of Richelieu, to invite her to aetede to die European
league, much in consideration of what she had done
ender hie- administration, there seemed to be some
knowledge and some guarantee of *hat would be her .
political conduct. But in u. 'short month the Duke of •
Richelieu had been removed, and he feared that -
France was now considered as having departed froth
'the principles which had procured her a place among
the five Allied Powers. 1V2.5 it not the olleet of the
late war to control,/ • her power, and to prevent her
from recovering that influent* which might enable•
her once more to shake the world? •But what waS
the present situation of France ? ' Her strengde'waa
recruited, her furanc,es Were arranged{ and ehiefle too •
with aid derived from* England. She possessed• a
free -Conatiturfore" toffee'srlimited monarchy,• and
might she long reser*. it ! And her people could-
nowspeak through the tnediumpf their Representa-. •
lives. These were great advantages, but eaened hp
'sacrifices of blood aecCehafacter which it winder rake
ininy.yeans' CO reeOve4 • !lie sttillid,"hoireVer, 'ln a
401TIMITIdlig dkit#ol**bteh edhldonbtAirere beet -
*ciliated two•-years• since. He di& not say thit
through-a feeling of jealousy against her. He sie.
cerely hoped, on the contrary, that any irritailoti
which our triumphs might have excited in a brave
people, would be' soothed down into a sentiment of
fair rivalry. Brit•it was iinpostihrle not to feel that if .
France was now our rival, she might one day become 1
our enemy., It was therefore necessary.that We should
be prepared for the event. There was anothertiower, • ,
America, who siood out of the pale of theoperationt
of the Congress, and with whom we had concluded' '
separate treaty of peace. Without looking at the
United States with an eye of jealousy, it became us to
bee careful, and to prepare for the worst. Two British
'subjects had been executed by the Americans.; he
knew that many arguments, which he must men' he
considered well' founded, had been adduced on this
occasion in favour of the American Government But
be was old enough to remember the time when the
execution of two British subjects in any country'
Would not have been borne with so much patietite--
.(Hear, hear, hear.) He did not blame his Majesty's- •
Ministers for having acted- prudently ; arid' in fact, •
on the score of prudence, they had seldom erre& He '
thought they had acted right in not pushing the mat-
ter too far. BUt they must recollect, that any coun-
try which does not seem prepared to defend' hies
rights, will soon be exposed to greater heath. There
was also a question of territory, which Was of the
greatest importatics. At the Congress of Aix-la-
Chapelle, two Ministers could not- here exchanged
medals without an express being immediately dis-
patched to the Noble Lord, so important was it con-
sidered that there should be a perfect balance between •
all the Allies. But the Americans Were allowed to •
add to their territory a State which Wobld subject our
colonial empire in the West Indies to the greatest
danger. He had no doubt some representation had
been made by Government on the subject, and he be:-
lieved it was. most moderate. hi that Ministers had
not been wrong, for it was right for those who email
do but little not to talk muCh—(Hear, hear, hear).
This, however, shewed the different situation in which
we stood;with impaired or with unimpaired resources:
Our only security lay in being prepared. He knew
that it was difficult to ascertain the point Where pre;
dettce ended, and abiect submiision began. Ben he
knew such a point Must exist, and he trusted we
should not be forced towards it. We must convince •
the world that if.we spoke of peace, it was from 'the
love of Face, and not from inability to support war
—(Hear, hear, hear). Peace, on such tenni, would
be war postponed to its most dangerous period. 1U
did not see the necessity of relying on a large
terry establishment, nor on colleges calculated to give
a military education, and inspire inertial aidour. All
he waned was, a great 'and insineible Navy, and a
well-furnished Exchequrr--( Hear, hear? hear). With
those cod, he should feel that he ',toed on a reek,
which th Coulpemove. tit ae: House -give
tiro a Navy, and' flourishing h•nditteie dhe world
tit sb. wboleAverld at defiance--(fliiies hear, hear).
V)e nett paint to be eontidefed seali:flre manner in.
which our affairs had beentonduittff, toad the stot-.
tilon•in which we stood.. Froth the fir ,'mimetic of .
race, Ministers had ceased to do any thieg for the
pneinal welfare of the coretry: To shew the sito2_
, of•trade, little thong would bf necestare; than to
.r to the evidence given‘before the Committee, on
4e flesurnptior of Ca,h. Payment. It, might nut
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D. 'I. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS-. f'l livered. The fact.heas that the day for the examination of a I ir*" :tadt ddty that could devolve upon them—( fleei
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