Star.
London, England, 1821-05-15 00:00:00

COMMITTEE Of SUPPLY.

On the question that the sum of £13,071 12s. Bd.
be granted for defraying the expenses of the Offices
of Ordnance in the Tower and Pall-Mall,

Mr. It. WARD replied to some observations of
Mr. Hume, made on a former night. The Hon. Gen-
tleman (Mr. Hume) would find that there were, in'
the Ordnance department, 67 new appointments, only
22 of which had been made by the Noble Duke, the
Master of the Ordnance. Of these 22, five of them
were to small places, such as could not be filled lip
from the Half-pay list, being only armourers and as•
sistant-clerks.—(Here the Hon. Gentleman was quite
inaudible, from the low tone in which he spoke, and
the noise in the House.)
Colonel DAVIES said that it appeared, from the
Report of the Committee of Military Inquiry, that
the patronage of the Ordnance was vested in the,
heads of departments, and not in the Master-General,
thus forming a kind of imperium in imperiv ; and, he
would ask, how could the Master-General coutroul
officers so appointed?
Mr. WARD entered into a statement of the con-
stitution of the Ordnance Board. There were four
principal officers appointed by patent, who sat at the
Board, but who did not vote, and who appointed
their own clerks.

Colonel DAVIES would ask, how could the Noble
Duke at the head of the Ordnance be expected to
direct all, when the appointment of the subordinate
officers was vested in other puppets ?
Mr. NVARD would suppose, from the observations
made by the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down,
thane had never heard any part of the previous de-
bates upon the Ordnance Establishment ; for he had
betrayed a total want of inforniation on the subject.
The Hon. Gentleman here entered into a statement,
and a defe.lce of the manner in which the situations
in the Ordnance were filled up.
Mr. BIRCH agreed with the Hon. Member who
had proposed a reduction of the Estimates, on the
ground of economy. When, on a late occasion, it
had been proposed that we should interfere in the
Fairs of Italy, it had been very properly objected to
by the other side, that it would be absurd to do so,
we not having the means of enforcing our mediation
or remonstrances. The Hon. Gentleman here entered
into a comparative statement of our war expenses
and those of France, by which it appeared that our
eapenses exceeded those of France by a sum of five
millions and a half ; and if the statement of his Hon.
Friend was correct, it would be nearly six millions.
lie then adverted to the National Debt of the two
anuistries, maintaining that France, with a Sinking
Fluid of forty millions of flatus. had a surplus be.

fond its expenditure of e 300,000 per annum. He
also remarked upon the appointment of fifteen clerks,
who were denominated Corresponding Clerks : he
could not well understand what that meant, but he
had heard there was a correspondence carried on be-
tween those above and those below stairs—(A laugh).
Mr. WARD said, the Hon. Gentleman having
made his statement in jest, he would also treat that
part of the subject lightly, and admit that there was
acoirespondence between one office and another.
Mr. GORDON said, the observations of the Ho-
nourable Gentlemen on both sides had convinced
him that it was the custom for clerks to cut out work
for themselve4.

Mr WARD defended the appointment of these
fifteen clerks.

Mr.,HUME intended to be understood to say, that
from the termination of the war up to the present
time, sixty-seven individuals had been appointed to
civil offices, whose salaries amounted to £6939 per
annum. Sixty of these had been appointed to offices
become vacant, and seven to offices never before in
existence ; all of which, he contended, might have
been filled up from the half-pay and superannuated
lists—which not having been done, caused a loss to the
country of nearly £'7ooo per annum. He reminded
the House, that the Hon. Member had on a former
occasion contradicted him, when he stated that the
tonnage of the Ordnance vessel, the Lord Howe, was
twenty tons. The Hon. Member opposite then stated
the vessel to be one of thirty tons, but this was in di-
rect opposition to a Return which he (Mr. Hume)
had now in his hand, and which rated the vessel at
twenty tons, as he himself had originally stated it.—
This, he contended, was a fair specimen of the Hon.
Member's accuracy. He (Mr. Hume) reprobated the
keeping up'of so large a number of Ordnance craft,
in opposition to a positive recommendation of the
Finance Committee. He contended, that the number
of Ordnance clerks was also too large, and that their
salaries ought to be now reduced, in consequence of
the fall in the prices of the necessaries of lire, in the
same proportion as those salaries had been, some
years ago, increased for the purpose of meeting the
increased expenses of the necessaries of living. lie
maintained, that a saving of several thousand pounds
might be made, by consolidating the Tower and the
Westminster Establishments. The offices of clerk of
the livery and storekeeper were recommended to be
abolished by the Military Commissioners; why were
not these offices abolished in compliance with that
recommendation ? The Ordnance Department was
held up as a model of economy, but, in fact, there
was no other public department in which the public
money was so uselessly expended as in this. He did
not care whether those useless expenses were origi-
nated or kept up by Whig or Tory. He was equally
against Whig or Tory, .who kept up or encouraged
such an expenditure as this--(Hear, hear).—He
meant no disrespect to the Duke of Wellington ; but
it was manifest, from his being a Memher of Coun-
cil, it was impossible that he could attend to the duties
of Master of the Ordnance. Eighty thousand pounds
I a-year was allowed for the repair of fortifications,
and }et the fortifications were all falling to pieces.—
With respect to gratuities, he thought that on prin-
ciple they were extremely objectionable, since they
were bestowed, not as rewards of active industry,
but were given indiscriminately to clerks, after a cer-
tain standing. He complained that sufficient informa-
, tion had not been given to the House, to enable it
to understand these Estimates, and concluded with
moving a reduction of twenty-five per cent. on the,
amount of the pay and allowance of the Tower and
Westminster Establishments. The vote before the
House would in this way be reduced from £63,000
to £17,457. _

Mr. WARD rose to answer some of the observa-
tions of the lion. Member. As to the Staff pay,
which the Hon. Gentleman said was concealed, he
said it came naturally under the head Military Con-
tingencies, but for the sake of convenience it was put
under the head of Repairs. He begged leave to say,
that at the recommendation of the Noble Duke at
the head of the Department, the Staff pay would be
in future divided from the head of Repairs. The
Committee would recollect the dispute between him
and the Hon. Gentleman respecting a ship, of which
the Hun. Gentleman accused him of giving a false
return. His reply, the last time the subject was un-
der consideration, was so overwhelming, that the
Hon. Gentleman did not know how to get out of the,
scrape. What did he do then?—Why, resolved to
get out ()fit some way or another, he changes the'
name of the ship, and then changes the whole trans-
action, for he turned the name of the ship from the'
Harmony into the Lord Howe. He (Mr. Ward) gave
the Hon. Gentleman full credit for sincerity, and was
sure that he religiously believed everything which he
asserted. The misfortune was, that not only did he
believe what he asserted himself, but what every one.
else asserted to him. To the unusual size of the Hon.
Gentleman's maw for taking in reports, were to be
attributed the various difficulties into which the Hon.
Gentleman was from time to time betrayed. As this
was a case of a personal nature, and as the Honour-
able Member and lie were engaged in a sort of con-
tention for the character of superior accuracy of in-
formation, it would not be thought invidious, he
hoped, if he considered the causes of the mistakes
into which the Hon. Gentleman was frequently-led.
And the first cause he would take the liberty of stating
was, what Sterne called " honest gullibility." He
did not mean to speak unworthily of this property of
the Hon. Gentleman, for he agreed fully with .the
self-same Sterne, when he said, " En- be it from me
not to wish to possess a fair share of this honest gul-
libility, for I consider it as one of the greatest sources
of !Inman happiness." If, then, it were a blessing, as
was here represented, and if it did make the man
happy who had the good fortune to possess it, then
was the Hon. Member opposite the most blessed of
human kind—( Laughter).—The Hon. Member then
said, that he would give some proofs of this " honest
gullibility," and entered into a history of the state-
ments of the Hon. Member respecting the men of
Queenborough, noticing as he went on the different
errors of the Hon. Member with respect to the sub-
ject: he noticed particularly the assertion that Sir J.
Gore, the Admiral at Sheerness, entered into a nego-
tiation for the purchase of the house belonging to
the Ordnance Storekeeper at Sheerness, and read a
letter from the gallant Admiral, in which he unequi-
vocally denies the truth of the story, or that there
existed even a shadow.of a foundation for it. The
Hon. Member then proceeded to the consideration of

the second cause of the Hon. Member's (Mr. Hume's)
mistakes, namely, a certain confusion of his faculties,
instancing his confounding floating magazines with
floating batteries ; and his confounding the emolu-
ments of the Ordnance men, who were mostly Queen-
borough men, with unnecessary grants to those men,
in order to preserve the Borough in the hands of Go-
vernment. He would also state another instance of his
confusion : the Hon. Member had boldly aserted that
Clerks belonging to the Ordnance Department were
permitted,, after a service of three or four years, to re-
tire op full pay.—[\4r. H um E: " I never stated it."j—
I know he did not mean to state it, but I charge him
with confusion—with stating that which he did not
intend to state, and that when he said full pay, he
only meant half-pay. But the Honourable Member
bad boasted that by his motions and inquiries he had
done a great deal of good to the country. He (Mr.
Ward) gave him credit for intending well ; he and
the lion. Member had been engaged in a personal
contest—they had fought various pitched battles,
and it was foi the House, who had witnessed the
contest, to decide with whom the victory rested. It
m• h t not be wholly unamusing either, to consider in
Hwhat light some persons out of doors had looked
upon the mutnal relation in which he (Mr. Ward)
and the Hon. Member stood in that House ; and he
did not know that he would be doing justice to the
lion. Member, or to his own judgment, if he pre-
ferred for special notice any other portrait of the
Hon. Member than that which• was recorded in the
following lines:
Even Haltiison's best explanation be spurns,

But ever is calling for farther Returns;
When Papers are granted
He's never contented ;
But condemns them as vague e'en before they're presented !
A!
Mr. HUME—Is that from John Bull?—(Much
laughing).
Mr.W ARD—Certainly not ; I can assure the Hon.
Gentleman that I am as much cut up in that publi.
' cation as the Honourable Member himself. He then
proceeded to treat of the third cause of the lion.
Gentleman's errors—great exaggeration ; and in-
stanced his disposition to magnify salaries, and upon
the least appearance of an improvident settlement of
any of the clerks, to brand the department as the
most proPigate and extravagant of all public esta-
blishments. lie instanced especially the charge that
the office of Clerk of Survey at Waltham Abbey was
created on purpose for Mr. Breeze, because lie was a
Queenborough man. He then spewed that this indi-
vidual had been actually in the service for twenty-
five years, before he received this office. The Hon.
Gentleman complained of the expense of maintain-,
ing powder magazines. He (Mr. Ward) stated that
the Noble Duke at the head of the department put
down five out of the twelve floating magazines. If
the maintenance of these magazines was intended
as a means of patronage over Queenborough, it was
very extraordinary that they should have been re-
duced to such a number as by experience was scarcely
sufficient for the purpose of preserving the quantity
of powder distributed amongst them. He next ad-
verted to a mistake of the Honourable Member with
respect to an item of £ll,OOO in the Estimates. He
(Mr. flume) said that the sum was exclusive of re-
pairs and materials, whilst the Return in his hand
might have shewn him that this sum did actually
include those repairs. The truth was, that much of
the Honourable Gentleman's time seemed to have
been occupied by reveries. A reverie was that state
of mind during which images passed through it in
rapid succession without any exercise of the under-
standing; and this was the state of mind in which
the Honourable Member seemed to have passed his
time. He did nothing, indeed, but dream—ever
dream of the Ordnance Department—
,

" The Ilan. Member's eye, in a fine phrensy
Glances from earth to Heaven from Heaven to earth.
And as imagination bodies forth
The forms of things unknown, the Member's tongue
Can give to airy nothing
A local habitation and a name !"—(lfrar, and a laugh).
The lion. Member then adverted to the case of Cap-
tain Dickenson, which had been brought forward by
the Hon. Gentleman opposite, and made the subject
of so much reproach to the heads of the Ordnance
Department. He (Mr. Ward) then justified the libe-
rality of the Board to this Officer, whom he repre-
sented to be a very old and deserving individual, and
who had spent his life in the service. He next ad-
verted to the charge that the Artillery Establishment
was kept up on the scale of a War Establishment. He
admitted that there had been an increase of Clerks,
but contended that the remainder of the Establish-
ment had been considerably reduced, and stated that
it was in contemplation to do away with the gratui-
ties, although the salaries were much under the ave-
rage of the Army and Navy Establishments. The
Honourable Gentleman had next quarrelled with the
existence of the Board, and insisted upon carrying
into effect its annihilation, in pursuance of the recom-
mendation of a Finance Committee—

" Ye Gods, annihilate both space and time,
And make two lovers happy !"
The Hon. Gentleman would no doubt be happy by
the event, but he (Mr. Ward) doubted if it were quite
so practicable or reasonable a work. The Honourable
Member entered into a short statement, intended to
describe the nature of the services of this Board. He
next considered the charge with respect to the amoupt
of the Treasurer's salary, and made some observations
in justification of it. He defended a contract for
horses, which had been made, in 1815, by a Right
Hon. Friend of his, then absent (Mr. W. Pole), whose
services in bringing to maturity the useful powers of
this establishment he eulogised in warm terms ; and
concluded by repeating his belief, that the Honour-
able Member opposite had acted upon a conviction
of the truth of his assertions ; but declared his unal-
terable opinion, that the persons from whom the Hon.
Member derived his information, were, for the most
part, either rogues, or very great fools.
Colonel DAVIES defended his Honourable Friend
(Mr. Hume) from the personal attack of the Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Ward). There was not one Hon.
Gentleman in the Houselo whom the charges of the
Hon. Gentleman less applied than to his Hon. Friend.
The whole speech of the Hon. Gentleman consisted'
of either irrelevant matter or personal attacks on a
set of argvmcnta ad honiinem, but were not at all ap-
plicable to the subject before the House. He had
charged his lion. Friend'with giving to airy nothings
" a local habitation and a name," but the secret of
the thing was, the Hon. Gentleman had then swallow-
ed a pill which hclound very difficult of digcstign!i

Flow, he would ask, did the Hon. Gentleman :Qom
for the excess of the expenditure in the Ordnsnc,
Department above the sums voted ? How did he ac.,
count for the appropriation grants? The Hon. Gee,
tleman (Colonel Davies) then compared the Estimates
of the present year, with what they had been in 1809,
at the time of the Walcheren expedition; and cots.
tended, that the number of clerks was at presess
greater than when they had more to do, mad their
united salaries amounted to a sum by many thou-
sands more than it was then—(l-lear, kear)._„
He condemned the bestowing of excessive gratuities
by the Board of Ordnance, and disapproved higlq
of the profligate expenditure of the public moue/ in
building useless fortresses around the coast. It was
imputed to him, and to those Honourable Frt&
around him, that they made a vexatious and silly op.
position to grants, of which they could only propose
a reduction of £3,000 or £3,000. But a reduction
of £3,000 or £4,000 in many of the extravagant votes
which came before the House, would soon swell up
to £3,000,000 or £4,000,000; for the million con-
sisted of hundreds and thousands; and if they only
saved the penny, the pound would take care of itself.
Let them prune away, every excrescence, and by
saving small sums they might, he would not say, re.
duce the National Debt, but they might remove one
million of those taxes which pressed on agriculture
and trade. Small savings were not to be overlooked,
and as long as he had the honour of a seat in the
House, he would continue to press on them the nevus.
sity of retrenchment.
Sir ULYSSES BURGH said, that instead of the
sixty-seven appointmenti mentioned by that Honour.
able Gerit!eman.(Mr. Hume), only thirteen hadtaken
place since the coming into office of the Kesent
ter of the Ordnance, and that these thirteen apt:wild,
ments were of the most deserving objects.
Mr. HUME, amidst loud cries of " Question,"
said he would not detain the Committee more than
for a very few observations. The lion. Gentleman
(Mr. Ward) had indulged in a sort of personal attack
on himself, instead of confining himself to the question
before the Committee. He had collected his scraps
of poetry, and let fly so many sallies of wit, by which
he thought he had gai.ied to himself a triumph ova
his (Mr. flume's) charges. It was extremely uncha-
ritable, to say the least of it, to make his (Mr. Hume's)
errors and infirmities, the subject of his humour. if
he possessed these infirmities, it was more his mar
fortune than his fault. The Hon. Gentleman, (M 4
Ward) had imputed to him gullibility, or Gullibility--
he did not k-novs' which —( Laughing )—nor did be
much care—but be must take leave to say that tie
gullibility and confusion with which lie charged him
(Mr. Hume) were entirely of the Hon. Gentleman's
own creating. He, indeed, triumphantly dwelt at
one mistake which he discovered, but the wonder to
him (Mr. Hume) was, that he did not discovei more.
He made no answer to the twenty substantial charges
which he (Mr. Hume) had brought again t him. ffu
flights of wit and, personal attacks were a proof that
he had nothing mpre substantial to say iu answer to
all his (Mr. Hume's) charges. The vote which the
Committee was to call on to grant, was for E 63,000
for a Department, which, in 1796, cost only £lB,OOO.
As he saw no reasons given for so large a demand,
he would propose a reduction of 25 per cent. which
would be £15,750 less than the sum proposed.

The House divided on Mr. Humes Amendment:
For it - - 78
Against it - - 134

Majority for the Original Vote —56

The next grant that was disputed was the sum of
£20,163 3s. 44. for the Ordnance Department ie
Woolwich, &c.

Mr. HUME objected to the keeping up various esta-
blishments which had become sinecures. He thougk
the Fire-masters at Portsmouth and Plymouth bhould
be reduced, and also the Assistant Fire-master at the
Royal Laboratory, and the Inspector of Artillery, arid
other new officers created during the war. The esta-
blishment at Sheerness he objected to most strongly,
as attended with the greatest expellee, and kept up
for other purposes. He hoped the Hon. Gender=
(Mr. Ward) would inquire into the charges of peculatice
which he (Mr. Hume) had against many of those per-
sons ; and he thought they should not be allowed to
let their own house% which were allowed them rent•
free, and go and live in Queenborough, for electios
purposes. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by pro•
posing a reduction of £.5040, which would be deduct-
ing twenty-five per cent. from the different
and which would leave them as good as they wee
during the war.
Mr. WARD said, the Hon. Member was incorrect
in all his calculations, for the greatest part of ha
authority seemed to rest on anonymous letters.
Sir WM. CO:s/GREVE, in reply to the charge
brought against him of being a sinecurist and a ply
ralist, would merely state that the amount of his env.
luments was 255. per diem—namely, 20s. a day is
the Laboratory, and .ss. as Superintendent of Military
Machinery. In the latter department he laboured
heart and hand, and neither could ever possible
become a sinecure.

Mr. J. SMITH bore testimony to the ingenious*
the meritorious, the useful exertions of the gallua
Officer, whose situations certainly were not sinecure.
Sir G. COCKBURN felt it to be his duty, after
what had been said, to declare that the Navy was
deeply indebted to the gallant Officer (Sir Wrn.Coo.
greve) for the improvements he had introduced in AP
ranging magazines, and in the sights of guns, besides
various other improvements.
Mr. GREY BENNETT argued for retrenchment
in this branch of the public service, contending tits
it was quite practicable. He contended that the 12'
bours of his Honourable Friend (Mr. Hume) had
already done a great deal of good; for now evert
exertion was making to effect retrenchment in all the
departments of the public service—(Hear, hoe).
Mr. HUME, in his reply, undertook to point out
a quarter where a considerable saving might be made
with great safety. The Department to which be al'
luded was that of the Paymaster at Woolwich. Deo
were only a few men there; not more in all than 68a
and yet there was a Paymaster for them, at a sale/
of £SOO a-year. This Office also had Clerks. is
thought that at least this situation might be dispel
with. He repeated his objections to an Windt*
holding two situations at the same time.
Mr. J. SMITH said, that however anxious he W
for retrenchment, he could not consent that a 014
Officer (Sir M. Cowper) who had been so long in the
service, should be deprived of kis Wary. Be theta

Llimm- 'NNE

therefore oppose the Amendment, so farias it tended
to deprive this Officer of his situation.
MI. ming raid be should be sorry to lose the
40te • • , Hon. Friend, and therefore would reduce
his proposition to €1,293. thus leaving out the gal-
lant Officer's salary.
The House then divided, when the numbers were,
For the original motion - - 110

Against it
Majority -
- .

63
- -•-.57

The Order of the Day for the house going into a Committee
05 die Bankrupt Laws was postponed to Thursday.
The further cousideration of the Poor Laws Amendment Bill
was postponed tu this day se'nnight.
The Home then resumed, the Chairman reported progress,
sod obtained leave to sit again on Wednesday.
Ilse other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and at
taw o'Clock the House adjourned.

E EVENING STAR.

LONDON.

TUESDAY, MAY 15, 1821.
TUE FUNDS.

PRICES OF STOCKS THIS DAT AT ONE O'CLOCK :
3pe ent. Reduced 73 7314
3 per Ct. Cons. 74 73/8 71-31/2 per Ct. 8314 83
4 per Cent. 9116 3/9
gper Cent. Navy 109 108%8 109% 109
Long Ann... 18 5/8 % India Bonds 425.455.pre.
Exchequer Bills ls. 4s. pre. par
Cons. for Acct. 74 73% 74%.

We have received the Paris Papers of Saturday.
They continue to be chiefly occupied with the pro-
ceedin.z. of the Chamber of Peers, as a judicial body,
in the trial of the persons accused of being engaged

in the conspiracy of August last. The interrogato-
ries are conducted in a manner somewhat shocking'
to English habits and feelings. The prisoners have ;
no protection : there is no definition of legal and il-
legal evidence: everything is received: the witnesses
and prisoners are examined and cross-examined
currently by the Judge and Advocates, and some-
times they are called upon to answer and examine!
each other. When the witness states any material
fact, the Judge asks the prisoner—" What have you
to say to that?" It is a mere sifting out of the truth
with fairness, but without any of those rules or limits.
provided in this country by the humanity as well as
policy of our law. The principal witness is a ser-
jeant, who, from an accomplice, soon became a spy.
His stulidity and ignorance are such, that he mis-
applies one word in ten; such as saying he " hoped,"
for he " feared:" and a question matzrial to the lives
of the prisoners turned upon the point, whether this
witness remembered certain words spoken to have
been " a change Ville Government," or " a change
is the GOvernsnent."—The proceedings were further
adjourned.
The Royal Court of Grenoble (Chamber of Accu-
sation) has passed judgment on the affair relative to
the troubles in that City on the 20th of March last.
It has sent Marc Calombat, student of law ; Joseph
Faulquien ; Charles Renauldon, advocate ; Hyppolite
Cecilion, student; Claude Reviere, manufacturer;
Bayoude, jun. Antone Dussert, journeyman printer;
Etienne Finet, journeyman glover; Anguite Dumas,
an officer out of service, to be tried by the Court of
Assize, for crimes provided against by the Articles
1,3, 5, and 6, of 17th May, 1789. The Court has
liberated three other persons who were in confinement.
A printed paper has been distributed in the Court
of the Peer., signed by' Messrs. DELAMOTTE, Des
CORDES, PAQUET, BRICES, PEQULU, and RENEY,
Captain, Lieutenants, and Sub-Lieutenants in the
Ex-Legion of the Seine, who complain of having
been arrested at Mons, in the Netherlands, and of
baring been delivered up to 0.4 e French Authorities.
They protest against the delivering up (extradition)
of their persons by a Government which they had not
offended, and whose laws they had not violated.
French Five per Cents. Friday, 83 fr. GO c.

We have received to-day a series of German,
Papers of recent dates, from which we.have selected
the following extracts. The probable success of the
Greek insurrection continues to be a subject of .spe-
culation ; but of matter of fact there is little added
that is new.

We have received accounts from Madrid to the
sth of May. Their contents, we regret to say, are of
very melancholy interest. The country seems on the
eve of becoming a prey to civil dissensions. Arrests
`and prosecutions are multiplied, and the laws more
and more set at defiance. The Canon VnquasA, who
was lately implicated in some counter-revolutionary
movements, was, on the 4th instant, the victim of
popular fury: he was massacred in prison, by an out-
rageous mob, who broke open the doors in spite of
the resistance of the National Guard then on duty.
The following is the account of this unfortunate affair,
given in the Journals in the interestof the Government :
" The Canon Vinuesa was, on the evening of the
3d, sentenced by Arias, the Judge of the Court of
Premiere Instance, to ten years of labour on board
the galleys at one of the strong forts on the coast of
Africa, and his two nephews were merely reprimanded,
on the ground that the imprisonment which they had
undergone was a sufficient punishment for their crime.
On the morning of the 4th, the news of this sentence
began to circulate through Madrid : great agitation
"sued, and groups of people were formed who dis-
played the greatest discontent at the sentence, the
Populace thinking that he deserved death. The dis-
turbance gradually increased till three o'clock in the
afternoon: the people then went to the prison with
the intention of seizing the person of the Canon. The
detachment of the National Militia appointed to guard
birn opposed this attempt; but these troops being
obliged to give way to the force against them, shut

themselves up in the prison, and commenced a brisk I and that, far from taking any share in the troubles,
fire on the multitude from the windoWs. they only wait for a favourable opportunity to with-
. " In the meantime, the people took possession draw again. How little even the Chiefs of the Re-
of the town magazine, which is situated near the volution believe in the success of their enterprise,
prison, and with the implements which'they procured appears from the fact, that they ton seek to put their
forced the pi incipal gate, and, notwithstanding all v suable effects in a place ot security ; and even those
the resistance made by the National Guards, pone- of the Prince are brought to the frontiers.
crated to the prisoner's apartment. From Galacz we learn, that the Turks in the for-
" The remaining circumstances of the event are tresses are continually receiving reinforcements, but
related in different ways, which induces us to post- that they had received orders to be passive fur the
pone details of them. We merely know that, from .present, and not to pass the frontiers till further or-
the marks on the body of the deceased, death appears ders. According to all appearance, they mean to
to have been inflicted by the same instruments which advance with a very superior force, and to put an
served to force the doors of the prison. It is said, end to these troubles at once.
that all the men composing the detachment of the BELGRADE, APRIL la.
National Guard on duty at the prison have been put Accounts from Constantinople say, that the Turk-
under arrest, and that an inquiry is to be instituted ish Agents had spread a report of a great victory
to ascertain whether they acted on their defence con- obtained by the Sultan's troops over Ali Pacha, but
formably to the regulation. It is said that Vinuesa it was afterwards known that Ali had surprised the
was killed by the blow of a hatchet on the head, and camp of Pacha Hey, who narrowly escaped being
that he expired under the hands of the assassin."- made prisoner. Ali is said to have advanced to Pre-
While these excesses are committing in the Capital, visa, and that 6000 Albanians had returned to the
every day brings an account of some new Guerilla standard of their former master.
band which is formed in hostility to the Constitutional NUREMBERG, MAY 3.
System. In a Sitting of the Cortes on the 27th of A loan of two millions is negotiating in a town of
April, the Minister of the Interior announced, that Switzerland for the King of Sardinia.
a body of rebels had been defeated at Ochandiano, A well known Swiss writer and statesman is said
one Pinero, their Chief, killed, and seventy prisoners to have lately communicated to the Minister of a
taken; and that the Militia of Logrono had in like foreign Prince possessing great influence a list of all
manner beaten, at Campezur, the rebels commanded the Swiss who, in his opinion, are Carbonari. We
bk an Advocate, D. Gregoire, who also fell in the need not, therefore, wonder if English and other Mi-
action.a--At Toledo, the National Guards have with nisters talk of Swiss Carbonari, when Swiss them-
difficulty kept the contending parties in order: the selves are not ashamed, either from mistaken con-
Archbishop has fled to Madrid ; and on his arrival viction or from the hope of being rewarded with
there, a battalion of the Guards, and a strong de- Orders and Pensions, of such base calumnies on
tachment of Cavalry was immediately sent off to as- their fellow-citizens and on the whole country, in-
sist in keeping down the spirit of discontent prevailing juring both, contrary to their oath and duty. The
among the Toledians. Government of or.e of the greatest Cantons lately pro-
Several motions have been submitted to the Cortes, posed to another to send out of Switzerland all the
in which the Clergy are accused of being the chief foreign emigrants suspected of being Carbonari, a
instigators to the revolt, and a Committee has been measure which was then to have been put into exe-
appr.inted to examine and report on their conduct cation, in other parts of Switzerland. The proposal
generally. was rejected by a great majority.
The Government meanwhile is making great ef- The Mayence Gazette says, respecting the insur-
forts ; and has recently made a purchase of 60,000
rection of the Greeks, " We remember the insurtet-
muskets ; it i, not said in what country.
Lion in 1771, when the aid of the Russians was not re-
The Count de CARTIMORNA (General MORILLO) fused, but given, though to an inconsiderable extent.
has been appointed Captain General of New Castile, At that time, they assembled a considerable corps in
the Morea, took Patzas and Misistra, and were, ap-
in the place of 1). Ramou VILLALBA, who has been
dismissed. proaching the isthmus of Corinth ; but on the bare
report of the approach of the Albanese in the Turkish
pay, they shamefully took flight, and left to the Rus-
sians the honour of falling fighting on the field of
Mantinea. Whether their present enterprise will be
more fortunate depends upon their courage, which
we are inclined to suspect from their murdering the
Turks. The truly brave de not butcher defenceless
persons. The Spirit of the Times, which is well known
as the origin of all evil, cannot inspire courage, but
only fanaticism. He seems to be more a braggart
than a hero. We shall see what he will do in Greece,
for this cradle of civilization is as unknown to us as
Ethiopia was to the Greeks. If their posterity should
succumb in this struggle, the Spirit of the Times will
have some more bitter pills to swallow. He will be
told that he ought to have waited till the Sultan and
his Divan should be led, of their own accord, to treat
the Greeks as citizens. It would be observed that
the Turkish Government was already in a fair way,
for that in the late proceedings against the Arme-
nians, it did not, as formerly, cut off the people's
heads first, and seize their property afterwards, but
this time had first confiscated their property, and
then cut off their heads. At all events, we think
that the Greeks will fail, without foreign support."
ST. PETERSBURGH, APRIL 17.
The following Decree has been received from Lay-
bach, dated February 10:
With the view of giving further encouragement to the in-
dustry of our faithful subjects who work in cotton and silk, and
wishing to favour the cultivation of the vine in the southern Pro-
vinces of the Empire, as well as the distillation of liquors from
grapes and other fruits, we have thought fit to raise the Duties
of consumption, which are collected in the interior, on these ar-
ticles. We have, besides, resolved on a moderate augmentation
of the Tax on Sugar and Coffee; and we order that the Con-
sumption Duties on the said articles be collected by the Cus-
toms, conformably to the subjoined regulation,
" ALEXANDER."

Advices have been received from Rio de Janeiro,
dated March 10th, which is five days later than the
last dispatches. It appears that the KING, after a
long deliberation, has abandoned his intention of re-
turning. to Portrgal. On the 9th, the Secretary of
State for Foreign Affairs had a long interview with
the KING.; in the course of which he submitted to
him various arguments to shew the impolicy of quit-
ting Brazil ; and she same evening, at a Council of
Ministers, the Royal intention of remaining was
announced.

A conspiracy is said, in one of the letters receiveA,
to have been detected, the object of which was to
form a new Revolution on Republican principles; se-
veral arrests have in consequence taken place. TA rt-
GINI (Baron de SAN LORENZO), Ex-Treasurer, and
the Judge of the Custom-house, are among the num-
ber. They were both committed to the fortress of
Santa Cruz.

Yesterday Count MuneTaa had an audience of his
MAJESTY.

Yesterday the Duchess of GLOUCESTER, the Princess
AUGUSTA, the Princess SoPHIA, and the Duchess of
KENr, accompanied by the infant Princess VITTORIA,
visited the Duchess of CLARENCIL