Star.
London, England, 1818-03-03 00:00:00

ELECTION BILL.

Mr. P. MOORE presented a Petition from Ccven-
try, against the Election Bill. The Petition having
been read, and laid once table,
Mr. WYNNE move the third reading of the Bill,
and stated his intention to provide that such votes as
should have been disputed at first, and ultimately
decided to be good, should be considered as forming
part of the 400 which the Bill requires should be
polled during the first two days.
Sir C. MONCKE was afraid that the Bill, as it
stood, would vest in the Returning Officer a power
which he might abuse to influence the election. It
would be better if he were obliged, before the elec-
tion, to declare what number of constables he should
think necessary to preserve good order, and that per-
sons-should be recommended to him, in equal num-
bers, to exercise that office by each of the candidates.
He would thus lose his patronage, and theirs would
be on an equality.
Colonel ALLEN objected to the whole of the Bill,
and moved that its third reading take place this day
six months.

Mr. NIARRYATT thought that the more the Bill
was considered, the more it would be found objec-
tionable. He reproved tle clause which limited the
duration of the poll, and required the same number
of voters to be presented every day, whether the
contest were for a county or for a borough. This
would force a candidate to bring up all his non-resi-
der.t voters on the first day, whilst it might be found
afterwards that they would not have been wanted.
This would greatly increase, instead of diminishing
the expense of elections; and would, in fact, preclude
a great portion of the voters of the 'kingdom from
exercising their elective franchise. He also disap-
proved of the clause which transferred the expense
of hustir.gs and booths from the candidates to the
public. On the part of the candidates it was optional,
but it would come on the public in the shape of a
tax, and at a time when no fresh burthens should he
thrown upon them. This seemed the beginning of a
new system of legislation; for if the public were to
bear a part of the expenses of elections, why not the
whole? and Why, u to France and America, should
not the Members be alsc tetuw,erated for their
labours ?

Mr. PROTHEROE objected to the clause which
inflicted a penalty of 1001. or. the candidate who
should gin any cockade to his supporters. Ile wished
the Bill might he recommitted ; but if its Honourable
Mover would not accede to that suggestion, he should
support the Amendment.
Sir WILLIAM BURROUGHS objected to the
clause which directed the Returning Officer to dose
the poll unless 400 voters were produced. If 400
voters were to be examined during the time men-
tioned, there would not he more than 63 seconds to
decide on the- merits.of each; and if a crew candidate,

more agreeable to the electors, should 1.
self on the third day, his opponents v:e4d-h4
thing to do to throw him out, but to object in
votes. He also disapproved of the clause v:
flicted a penalty of 1001. for giving a cockade.
Mr. HAMMERSLEY was happy to ve'
4osition to a Bill which he considered cry
'selfish description, and at the proposal
lek sincere disgust.
Kr. WII.BERFORCE wished that the
specting cockades should be expressed in
terms, and that, instead of a large penalty or
did.ate giving them, small ones should be
individuals -by whom they should be er
or worn.

Mr. DOUGLAS objected to the 137.1 a
with a General Election in view, as niznvti
might be twisted to partial objects. He icy
that it should he postponed for two years.
Mr. MASTER'I'ON URE stated that lu
fled that there was no measure whicn
viewed with snare jealousy by the people,
which would deprive .Electors of a fair of
of giving their votes. He was anxious th,
should be so framed as to exclude the ides
ing that tendency. He was aware of the
portuniry which the present laws gave re
the duration of Polls to an improper and te‘
length of time, arid while he would glae
any measure which would improve ase s,
avert the evils which had arisen, he would
that in doing so, he did not incur a gr
by preventing persons legally entitled to
exercising their elective franchise; anci
.relieve the House from the imputation oil
law for their own convenience, in that me
tent part of the practice of the British Cr
He was afraid that the Bill in its present is
have that tendency. It must be adverted
the clauses now stand, the apportionment
and polling places may not be made unless
sons have polled at a former contested elect
this was no certain criterion of the number
who may poll at a future election, particu
the right of election is in freeholders—at..
a number of booths might be apportioned..
than 150 persons have polled at former e!,
also called the attention of the Howe to th
portant circumstance, that much time
.Eupied on the first day of electif.n in the ;
forms of reading the writ, swearing the
Officer, appointing Commissioners to tak,
Besides all this, the speeches of the Can... 5
rally take up a considerable time; so tha
four or five hours from the commencer
proceedings before the poll takes place
was in the breast of the returning oEv
commence the poll on that or the folks
If he adopts the former alternative, t!..,
mains ten hours to pull 400 votes. He
the necessary questions to be put to Frei.li
Bribery Oath, which, unlike the oaths of
supremacy, and abjuration, must be tan
voter separately, would occupy five ni
that only twelve persons could be polled
or 240 persons within the time limited by
supposing that there were two polling places.
many persons might be deprived or di
voting. He thought it more advisable ,
middle course, and provide that the poll
close at the expiry of the ninth hour, on she
unless one thousand persons should then
—and that the poll should close at the ex,
ninth hour on the tenth day, unless tw
persons shall then have polled. This,
would be a safer course, and would mho
from the imputation to which he had alb
Mr. P. MOORE expressed his intent;
his Constituents as far as he could, and
to the clause against the use of cockades,
their interests, stated, that out of 14,000
Coventry, six thousand were on the Poo
want of work.

Mr. W. WYNNE replied, and having
some length the objections urged agains,
House div►ded—Ayes 44—Noes
The Bill was consequently lost.
On our return to the gallery, we for.
NEWPORT asking some questions as to
ings that had taken place on the Rep
been prepared on the state of the ad=
justice in Ireland,.
Mr. PEEL explained the protrren Os
made in the preparation of three ltepert
which was now under the consider:it:on
of the Rolls and the Lord Chance:lc:
After several explanations, he conclude
ring the Honourable Baronet that eve
non had been given to the subject by t...
General, and the Executive Government of ;:u
Administration.

Mr. CALCHAFT moved for varicti
the effective force of the British Army. :tc:
sualtics, &c. to the end of 1817.—Orde-A.

THE MILITARY ESTAELISH:.:C

The House havinggone into a Commit:ft'
Lord PALMEII4TON rose for the purl."'
submitting the Army Estimates. pisparav:.l
moving the usual vote for the granting 01
Lary force for the year. He observed:!
wcres• dry, and being already before
a printed form, it was only nece.s::r,
compress his statement into the r...rrocfst
more particularly as every minute item Iris gg'
twined in the Report of the Finance Cornt:::-..1.,°
that it was hardly necessary for him to do molt
refer to. that Report, where those sr!..o
more detailed information would rind it. fro
general totals, it would appear that the ar.c"...'
charge was less this year than List by +1•;•:4:•.
arose from the reductions that had been nue:'.3/
different branches of the estabiishment. It
posed to reduce the force in Ireland to 0.0X./1
stead of 24,0110 men, which was 4,000 less th.e..l
year. The whole number of reductions that :1
taken. place since the last estimates, made tiet°'.
diminution amount to 21,641, or, in round cur:el
22,000 men. Without going into a numerical OS
ment of the Land Forces, the reductions hailer?
sioned a diminution of expense of 7.4,0014
the head of the Staff, the decrease was 3,7."7
chiefly arose from reductions at Chatham, In T.
West Indies, and on other foreign stations 1.°17
public departments there had been a reduct4u.:
the charges to the amount of 16,1191. In the -
Office Office thonliminution was 0,,0GL but as that 01

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smaller reanctizad this year to the amount of '
Istme 12001. that sum would not be the whole ac-
t l difference in pe'oi of charge.
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also some small variations. In that of the
General, the reductions amounted to
311155/ter-. in-astcOn-sequence of that office being demo-
and its business transferred to the War Office,
41 had made some additional charge necessary in
iast.mentioned department. In the Medicid De-
na there was unfortunately a considleable
ter unavoidable :acreage, to the amount of 11,500/.
x*ll was occasioned by the stores to be purchased
t paid for. In the Royal Military College there
an increase of 2,6451. but the actual increase
-40 i. more than this, that sum being found ne-
to ; complete the building, and a similar sum
be necessary for the same object for the next
; but after that, there would be an annual re-
ewe o{
eOOOl. while a diminution had already
, greeted in that establishment, to $e amount of
spp;,*eyear. In the pay of General Officers there
• been a reduction of 2,1091. arising principally
d:,4ths, and a proportionate sum in the half.
of the same class. In the foreign half-pay there
been an increase of 3,9001. In the Chelsea and
'am Hospita}s the increase was 101,0001. but
am was tut be deducted for prize-money.
ties in the last four years had amounted to
int there wits every reason to expect that
be by no means so considerable in future.
iitarT Asylum the diminution was 1,5641.
pareonate List and Warrants, 1,6961. The
ijutants of Militia had caused an increase
The reduction on account.of the troops
amounted to 175,0001. In the Regiments
Indies there had been a small increase.
tole, in point of charges, there had been a
188,0001. while the charges were less alto-
-418,0001. The reductions in all the stations
.;664 men less than in the Estimates 41 last
The Noble Lord then made a brief recapitu-
c the principal items, and concluded wi%
at there be granted to his Majesty 113,640
the British Army in France, for the East
: Indies, and for our other establishments at
I abroad.
iLCRAFT said he did not clearly under-
Noble Lord's statement. Bat at all events
t the whole amount of the army was larger
required. There were more for some, if
the services than were required. 'There
:al thousand men more than were ever
-essary before in the old stations, though
lot say they were too many now. But in
itions he thought some concessions should
The parts of the army in Great Britain
I were both tco numerous. The number
ten were nut necessary for service in Great
the year 1792 we had only 15,000 men
service. He could not see why, when we
trge arthy in France to keep peace, 26,000
dd be necessary to do what 15,000 did in
was not satisfied that an increase of
. were necessary for this purpose, and
thereforemove an amendment for their reduc-
vas painful to place men in the situation
rs would be in when reduced ; but the
other duties to perform. Was there any
state ilk our finances that should induce
up a ftle battalion'inore than was ne-
The great difficulty did not lie so much in
as here, where we had to pay the inte-
national debt, and where Money was in-
icult to be got. Now, with respect to
4000 men, it was said, were not too many ;
that had been beard of the state of Ireland,
lot conceive why the Peace Establishment
double the amount that was necessary ; for
notwithstanding the great privations and
vhich the people had suffered, was asserted
liarly tranquil and pacific. However, as
Lord had confined hiinself to simple de-
iould not now originate a debate, but he
, that it was his intention, on the ptesen-
the Report, to move for a further reduction
: nine thousand men.
W. RIDLEY wished to call the attention
imittee to one part of the I::•,:intate, watch
. deserving of censure. He alluded to the
aggon Train, which was of no use, and of
troop was kept up, as if this expense were
neeuence to the country. The whole ex-
, this train was 30,3131; which was 50001. or
more than any regiment of dragoons cost the
Another item that might be reduced was
Ls. There was a great increase in the esti-
the charges for Medicines, and there was a
Sle charge for the support of the Botanical
St. Vincent's, though he could not tell
had to du with the department of the Se-,
War. In the Military College there dare
is of charge for pensions, to the amount of
ig an increase of 2501. on that of the year
e But in an establishment of so short a
an increase of pensions ought to be guarded
There was another charge of a pension of
ske retired Barrack-Master-General. He
;is deserving of some explanation.
ALMERSTON, in reply, justified the
lance of the Waggon Train, as they were
in breaking horses for the troops in France;
part of them were employed on the Royal
(anal, and some of them were attached to
on the Continent, where they were useful
ig forage carts, and conveying sick to the
The -Recruiting Staff was not more than
nary ; for each district must have its re-
Field-Officer, Paymaster, and o;elerjeant, to
to men. He did not think a.tt economy
ise from diminishing these systems, and
; would be incurred on account of the re-
tore final inspection, than would equal the
ising from the reduction. As to the Bota-
Jen at St. Vincent's, it was established at
nice of Sir George Yonge, when Secretary
and it had been ever since under the super-
-of his successors. The Garden was under
:roul of the Medical Establishment, for the
of cultivating medical plants, but an inquiry
• going on to ascertain if the establishment
really useful, and if not, it would be relin-
The per sions on the Military College were
.'fellors, who were entitled to them after a ser-
of fifteen years. The addition arose from the
'einem cf a Gentleman who had been seventeen
ll* this esublialiment. As to the Barraclo•Mas-

ter General's pension, although it was voted, it had
not been issued, and le' believed it was intended to
apply it to the balance he owes to Government. The
96,000 men for the Home station were not prcifessed I
to be applicable to the home service only, fur tiam-
bers were to be deducted for the supply of foreign 1
garrisons. Nobody would contend that they ought
to be doomed to perpetual banishment; therefore it
wits necessary to send out reliefs every year; and if
every regiment were relieved only every ten years,
it would take about 3,300 men annually from the
home service, and a lower number than would be
left would not be sufficient for home defence. Be I
sides, as it was essential that fresh garrisons should ,
occasionally ke sent out, there must be between four ,
and 5,000 men sent in the course of every year, in-
stead of 3,300. The numerical amount of our forces
abroad could not be allowed to fall below the num-
ber assigned, and the non-effectives must fall on the ,
numbers at home. Then g, besides this, were de-
'ducted the forces for our lands in the Channel, the
number for Great Britain would be found not to ex-
ceed 18,000 or 19,000 men. The Honourable Gen-
tleman would then see that the difference between
1792 and now would not practically give him more
than 18,000 or 19,000 men, and could it be said that ,
the alteration in our circumstances and relations did
not sufficient'v justify this difference?
WARRE made a few remarks in corrobora-
tion of the opinion, that while we had so large an
army in France, we had less occasion for such an,
establishment at home.
Mr. PEEL justified the Estimate for Ireland.—
When he reverted to the circumstances of Ir...land for
the list five years, and remembered that it was ne-
cessary to maintain twenty-five thousand regular
troops in that country, he could not but feel highly
gratified, that the people, who had undergone such
extreme privations, were now in such a state, that it
was only necessary to keep to twenty thousand men
in arms there, more to prevent illicit practices than
for other reasons. This, he thought must afford un-
mixed satisfaction to every man who reflected on it.
That this number was still necessary, must rest on
the responsibility of those who were actuated by a
sincere desire to make every possible reduction.
Even in the time of Lord Townsend (1767) it was
deemed necessary to maintain fifteen thousand men
in Ireland ; and when the force that it has been ne-
cessary to keep there for the last-eight years was
considered, it was impossible to compare it with the
present reduction without the greatest gratification.
In the course of the present year there had been a
reduction of three thousand yeomanry in Ireland,
and the whole reduction relating to Ireland produced
a diminution of 211,0001. below the establishment of
last year. Since the peace of Amiens a very consi-
derable force had been maintained there, which had
almost exclusively been devoted to the maintenance
of the public tranquillity, by aiding the civil power.
The amount of force at the peace of Amiens was
twenty-two thousand men ; and from the 10th of
February, 1816, the reduction had been from forty-
four thousand- to twenty thousand. He was happy
to say that Ireland was in a state of general tranquil-
lity, and it was not possible to pay too high a tri-
bute to the people for the fortitude with which they
had submitted to privations and distress. Happily
the Executive Government had been enabled .to
grant them pecuniary aid for the relief of the most
poor and distressed. This had been given to the
amount of thirty-seven thousand pounds and had
been productive of the best effects; and he was per-
fectly satisfied it was impossible for such a benefit to
be received with greater gratitude than by these
poor people. He could riot go so far as to say that
there was complete tranquillity in all parts of Ire-
land. Some excesses would, of course, frequently
happen, but they were few in number to what they
used to he. The extension of the civil power had
been highly advantageous, and the more it continued
to be extended, the more would the military power be
dispensed with. In proof of the improved disposi-
tion of the people. the Right Honourable Gentleman
observed, that though the Insurrection Act had
passed last year, it had nor been found necessary to
put it in execution. On the whole, therefore, he
congratulated the House on being enabled to dispense
with five thousand men from an establishment pro-
pelled so lately as 1816.
Stir WILLIAM BURROWES denied the necessity
of the foree•now:proposed for Ireland, and alluded
to the time of the Atherican war, when only 5,000
men *ere allowed, though that country was oily
threatened with invasion ; therefore the Right Hon.
Gentleman had no right to suppose the effective
force was near so much as he had said. If there had
been discontents in Ireland, they has arisen from the
oppressions of this Goiernment, and they ever would
be resisted. He would advise them to beware how
they irritated the feelings of such a people under the
calamities that afflicted them. The vote was only
for four thousand men less than last year. The
amount of the .revenue last year was 51,000,000/.
and the expenditure 65,000,0001. The deficiency
was therefore 14,000,0001. If, then, there was this
deficiency, where would it end ? The Nob Lord
had not held Alt a hope of any farther reduction in
future years, and 4,200 men was the whole of the
reduction promised on. the face of this estimate, out
of 90,000. If this were all the deduction to be made
from an establishment that cost us 6,000,0001. up to
this very hour, was it possible that the country would
be able to provide for such a force ? If the public-
faith were to be violated by any appropriation of the
Sinking Fund, or if a new Property Tax were to be
levied in any shape, they might then find the means,
but they could not obtain them otherwise ; and there-
fore we must despair of any reduction of expense,
except by the reduction of the estimates. This mili-
tary force was really enormous in the present state
of the country. Last year the yeomanry in Irelar.d
was 44,000, and now great men it was assumed for
having reduced it 3,000. But where was the yeo-
manry force before the war ? There was none.—
Thus 44,000 yeomanry and 25,000 regulars made
69,000 soldiers kept up in Ireland only, in time of
with all the world. This was most serious.
place
Honourable Baronet proceeded to animadvert
on the numbers allowed for the relief of foreign pr-
risons, and various minor items, all of which he con-
sidered larger than necessity required.
Mr. BAIIIMITON arid Mr. LONG expressed'.. /dire:
,to correct some e4i in the payment of thepensioiss
at Chelsea, by which the families or the pensioners
would be nuterially benefited.

Mr. FPRI3ES wished that a list of the officers who
received pensions for wounds had not been laid on
'the table ; and 'regretted that in respect to pensions
the Officers of the Navy were riot placed on an equal
footing with the Officers of the Army; and stated that
he feared there were many cases of abuse In the gran-
ting of pensions to the latter.
Lord PALMERSTON observed th.,t it was not
usual to lay on the table such a list as that alluded
to by the Hon. Gentleman, but that if the Hon. Gen-
tleman thought proper to move for it, he would make
no objection to its production ; observing, however,
that it would take a long time to mate out, and
could not be submittPd to the House in time for the
discussion and decision on the subject. He denied
that there was any partiality shewn to the Army with
respect to pensions. Pensions were granted to the
Officers of each service by departments wholly un-
connected with one another ; so that anx thing like
partiality was oat of the question. As to any abuses,
in the granting of Pensions to the Officers of the
Army, he had in consequence of shat had been said
in that House last Session, invaFtigated the subject
minutely, and he had not been able to discover a single
instance of such abuse.

Mr. FORBES observed, that he had heard of se-
veral cases of gross abuse.
Lord PALIERSTON requested the Honourable
Member to communicate those eases to him in pri-
vate, and pledged himself, that if he found that any
pension had been withdrawn which ought to be corm
tinned, or that any pension was continued which
ought to have been withdrawn, he would endeavour
to rectify the error.

Sir FREDERICK FLOOD expressed his high
satisfaction at what had fallen from the Noble Vis-
count and the Right Honourable Gentleman with
respect to the loyalty and good disposition of Ire-
land, and the patience with which the people of that
country had endured the various hardships and pri-
vations to which they had beep subjected. There
was no more sincere friend of Ireland than himself ;
indeed, whoever was not a friend to both countries
could not be a friend to either. He was as indepen-
dant a man as any in that House, being bound to
adhere to nekher side of it. He never had received
an/ thing, and he looked for nothing from any party.
He would, therefore, be the last man to agree to any
act of that House which he considered unjust or op-
pressive towards his native country. But he was
bound to say, that he did not think the vote of 20,000
men for Ireland extravagant. They were dispersed
over the country, and their weight was not felt. The
whole people of Ireland, without any reference to re-
ligion, were loyal. Of this fact the late war afforded
abundant proof. Half our marine in the late war
was composed of Irish Catholics; and a great part of
our army of Irish Catholics and Protestants; and he
knew of no single instance among them of desertion
and. disloyalty. The attachment of that country
should be fostered.—" Ireland," exclaimed the Ho-
nourable Baronet, " is the righturm of the Empire.
If you lose Ireland, what will become of you? You
ought to embrace her with both arms to the and of
time, as your neariest and dearest friend."
Se Resolution was then agreed to.
Lord PALMERSTON proceeded to propose the
Resolutions for granting the following sums, which
were severally put and agreed to :
X 2,471,141 17 4 fur defraying the charges of the Land Forces
in Great Britain and abroad, with the exception of those in
France and the East Indies, from the 24th Dec. 1817 to
the 24th Dee. 1818.
817,234 12 0 for defraying the charges of the Land Forces in
Inland for the same period
116,707 14 0 for defraying the expenses of the General and
Staff Officers of the Land Forces in Great Britain and

Abroad, with the exception of those in France and the
Indies, for the same period.
33,860 0 0 for defraying the expenses of the General and Staff
Officers of the Land Forces in Ireland, fur this seine period.
137,365 1 0 for Allowances to the principal Officiss of certain
Departments, their Deputies and Clerks in Great Britain,
for the same period.
8,847 15.0 for Allowances to the principal Officers of certain
Departments, their Deputies, and Clerks in irelant, for the
same period.
27,650 0 0 for medicines and surgical materials for the Land
Forces and Hospitals in Great Britain.
10,061 0 0 for the same in Ireland.

92,000 0 0 for the Volunteer Corps in Great Britain.
31,347 0 0 for the Volunteer Corps in Inland.
855,419_19_6 for the charges of the Land Forces in France.

21,275 10 0 the expenses of Recruiting Corps for Foreign and
East India Service.
25,514 15 9 for the Royal Military College.
175,672 0 0 for the Pay of General Officers of the Land Force.
in Great Britain, not being Colonels of Regiments.
2,263 0 0 for the Pay of General Officers of the hold Force.
in Ireland, not being Colonels of Regiments.
26,439 13 0 for the Charges of Garrisons at Home and Abroad
on the Establishment of Great Britain.
7,159 0 st for the Charges of Garrisons on the Establishment

of Ireland.
149,009 9 0 fur the Full Pay of Retired Officers of the I.And

Forces in Great Britain.
3,601 0 0 for the Full Pay of Retired Officers of the Land
Forces ia Ireland.
601,730 0 0 fur the Half Pay of the Reduced Officers of the
Land Forces of Great Britain.
50t173 0 0 for the Half Pay of the Reduced Officers of the
Land Forces in Ireland.
g 8,570 0 0 fur Military Allowances to the Reduzed Officers
of the Land Forces in Great Britain.
3t97 0 0 for Reduced ()firers in Ireland.

136,300 0 Moe !Wired Foreign Officers.
42,050 0 or the In-Pensioners of the Royal Hospital at
Chelsea.

17,719 0 0 for the In-Pensioners of the Royal Hospital at
Kilinainharn.
872.930 0 0 for the Out-Pensioners of she Royal Hospital
' at Chelsea.
190,133 0 0 for the Out-Pensioners of the Royal Hospital at
Ki
32,950 0 0 for the Royal Military Asylum at Chelsea.
80,430 0 0 for Pensions to the Widows of Officers of the Land
Forces and Marines on the Establishment of Great Britain.

18,418 11 5 for Pensions to the Widows of OfEcelTsoltise

Lord Forces and Marines on the Rstablishment of Ireland.
161,606 3 9 for Allowances on the Compassiumite List, Ms
Majesty's Royal Bounty, &c.
27,660 4 2 for Superansuations to Officers retired from several
Public Departments in Great Britain.
7,100 0 0 for Superannuations to Officers retired from several

Public DepsAmenu in Ireland.
55,000 0 0 for Fees paid into Exchequer on account of the
Establishment in Great Britain.
82,114 0 0 for Corps existing in Great Britain, which it is pro-
posed to reduce in the course of the year 1818.
11,3114 0 0 for Corps existing in Ireland, which it is proposed
• to reduce it the course of the year 1818.
Qr. the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX-
CHEQUER, Resolutions for granting to his Ma-
jesty the following sums were put and agreed to:
.02,ty71,0n0 o 0 fur Discharging the Interest of Exchequer
Bills, Irish Treasury Bill., at:d Mint Notes.
11085,815 7 84 for Paying off a;:ci Discharging Treasury Bills
issued for the service cf Ireland iu the year 1818. (is pur-
pcane, of the Act a the 64,th of Coco. ILL chap. 47.) out-
s or.air.g and unprusid,cl

£500,000 0 0 being the hundredth part 91. 56,090,04101. cd. it:-
chequer Bins, authorised by 'an Act of yet Stssion to be
issued on the Aids of the present year, to b.: paid in equal
quarterly payments to the Governor and Company of the
Bonk of Faiglaud, to be by thcm placed to the account et'
the Conuniadoners for the Reduction of the National Dot.
On the motion that the Chairman should report
these Resolutions to the House,
Mr. WARM!: wished to know what were the in-
tentions of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, with
respect to the sums to be contributed by this country
towards the .repair of the fortifications in the Ne-
therlands ?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that he should have had to propose a vote of one
million thin year, and one million the nert, for the
purpose adverted to by the Honourable Gentleman,
were it not that the British Government had some
counter claims on the Government of the Nether-
lands, which would reduce the
.millions to about
700,0001. He trusted, however, that ultimately this
expense would not fall cn Great Britain.
Mr. WAR RE observed, that by the Treaty with
France a sum was especially assigned by that coxn-
try, for the repair of these fortifications. Was the
grant for which the Right Hon. Gentleman expressed
his intention at some future period to move, to be in
addition ? .

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that certainly such an appropriation was reserved in
the stipulations with respect to the French contribu-
tion. A great part of it had been already expended.
The grant forwhich he should move would be in
addition, and he was persuaded the Hon. Gentle-
man would feel the importance of the purpose for
which it was designed.
Mr. WARRE fully admitted the importance of
the purpose.
Mr. SHAW wished to know what amount of the
French contribution would be receivable this year,
and whether any of it would be applicable to the ser-
vice of this country ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re-
plied, tha-. he could not hope that any part of the
French payments of the present year would be appli.
cable to the service of this country. All that could
be expected was the maintenance of the Army of
Occupation, and a contribution towards the repairs
of the fortifications in the Netherlands.
The Motion for the Chairman's leaving the Chair
was then agreed to, and the House having been re-
sumed, the Report was ordered to be received to-
morrow.
The Kihnainhatn Hospital Bill and the Office Indemnity Bill,
were read a third ilbse and passed.

ABOLITION OF IRISII JAIL FEEL.
Mr. PEEL moved for leave to bring in a Bill for
the Abolition of Jail Fees in Ireland.

Sir FREDERICK FLOOD considered the Bill as
one of great humanity.
Leave was given, and the Bill was afterwards
brought in, read a first time, and ordered to be read
a second time this day fortnight, and to be printed.

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