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London, England, 1828-02-15 00:00:00

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bad introduced the haute
( Hear). The 1101‘ OeotlemAa
at Copenhagen, but it bore no analogy whatsoever to
that of Navarin. In the former case, venni ark
had issued a Declaration of Wee before our operation
alien Parliament voted thanks to the
conkvictorious
c
oali'adfs we were actually at "'at with her.—
Now we were as much at peace w ith Turkey as before
the battle of Navarirt. lit-sides, the object of the two
battles was totally Meier% The object in one case
war to destroy the fleet—in the other it was the reverse.
At Copenhagen we seized or destroyed all the ships—
at Navarin, after the battle, not a ship was either de-
stroyed or taken. Here then, were distinctions so
obvious between the two occasions, that no such is-
ferenee could be drawn from the refusal of a vote
of thanks for the battle of Navarin, as that it was
either censured, or not considered as a brilliant and
signal victory. fie would not here enter into any
discussion upon the struggles which existed between the
Greeks and Turkey; that subject was not now before
the House; and the object of the Hon. Member who
made t' e motion was properly as to the granting a vote
of thanks to an Admiral for a victory. There was not
the slightest wish on the part of Government to deprive
Admiral Codrington of any honour that was due to
him, he gave the fullest and most positive disclaimer
to any such interoion; and he begged to assure the
House that the recent change in the Government did
not cause the slightest change in that respect—
(Hear, hear). He doubted much even if thare had
been no such change, whether the present- motion
would have succeeded, and he was the mote inclined
to believe it would not, when he ohser red that th,
only Member of the late Government (the Master of the
Hint) who could give ai,y information on the subject
was not now in hi. ilecr. if that Right- Must Gentle-
man had felt a deep ioterest in Its question, be should
have been here to give 1 is soprrt to his Right Hon.
Colleague (Sri .J. Mackintosh). They represented Ott•
same borough ; and as their constituents must be sup
posed to expect their advocacy of the same measure, be
was disposed to believe that some other cause than in-
advertence p everted the appearance of Hon,
Gentleman (Nit. Tierney) In short he (Mr. Peel) in
(erred Iron his absence that the late Government Mould
act precisely as the present—(Hear. hear). Amick, had
been made on the term in the King's S,reech which
spoke of the battle of Navarin ; but even t n the very
dispatch of Admiral Codtington himself, be founded
his ie.is•ance to this vote. Toe Protocol was delivered
to the Turks two days before the battle of Navarin,
conveying the intentions of the Allied Powers. Three
propositions were made; and finally the this* Admirals
agreed to take a position oith their squadrontiwith a view
to renew their propositions to Ibrahim for the benefit of
the Porte herself, and ce tainly not to attack the Tut kish
fleet. They did not for a moment contemplate the
effusion of human blood—they regretted it, after its oc.
curience; they chd not contemplate any hostile measures,
but they acted under the im, rc,sion that the imposing
presence of a stioadion would produce the most favour-
•ble effect. Unfortunately, however, that did not take
place. Indeed it was impossible no: to mingle with an
admitation of the victory, and some regret for the
lamentable effusion of human blood which resulted
from it. in the King's Speech. the word " untoward"
had been used as applying to it—in that of the King at
France it was de:ignated as" unforeseen." We called
it untowai d without imputing the slightest blame or
censure to the gallant Admiral,-who by the bye, had
himself described it es a disa,trous extremity; and he
(Mr. Pee ) add, that these were terms in which
his Nlaj sty's Ministers could not hair, described it—
(Cries of I fear, The acti ‘n arrasatot content.
plated as aeces-ary to give effect to •ohe Treaty even
upon the Admiral's own chewing. It was admitted on,
all that one hour before the battle England was
at peace with Turkey, and so said the three Admirals in
their Message after the action ; they even went the
length of adding their wish to resume their former good
understanding wit! the P. rte..—(llT:a•.) Amongst the
authorities qa led by the H in. Gent. (NIT. Hobhouse) it
was surprising that he made co refer eitce to the speech
of Mr. Windham aftet the battle of C penhagen. Toat
Right Hon. Gentleman then said, tbAt !bough the refusal
of a vote of thanks might be inferredao impute blame,
yet that the nature and character of the service should
be laid down as ones' the roles by which to josiify a vote
of thanks Upon these gr• unds he was able to rec 'near
it to 1115 11140,th:it nn tiniavour ibis impression tothe skill
or valour of Admiral Codsitigton would arise, in c n•
sequence of the Government refusing to acquiesce in
the present motion. Or precedent and pti.rciple it
would not be right to vote thanks as called for—it
would be a departure from t e usual course of proceed.
mg to say, that.signal valour, without refer-rice to the
nature and character of tt e se:vice in which it was ex•

hibited, should be considered deset wing of a trt•te of
thank,. If it was in con'ortnity- with the practice to do
sn, he would with pleasure and w ith cheerfulness offer
them t Admiral Cochington in the plesent instance.—
Much cavil hadb een raised about the terms " ancient

Ally," as applied to Turkey. The Hun. Gentleman
(Mr. liobhou se) had said, that Os would repudiate such
a phrase; but those who were accustomed to Turkish
phraseology and knowledge of geography would no-.
agree so readily with that Hon. Gentleman. For 300
years we have been at peace with Turkey. The year
1539 was the first period wheat our relainni with Turkey
co nmenced, and v e continued uninterruptedly so till
abut 18.:,2, when a trifling d fr.:mace occurred. He be-
lieved that Tut key would not repudiate the termsb, ancient
Ally," as applied v, her ; for in the Treaty of Amiens he
found a e cafled her ',Ally rand in the Treaty ot 1799
menlon was made of our " ancient friendship'. wi.h
the Porte, whereas now -we designated, her as ow
.4 ancient Ally." Surely, then, it was the merest
cavilling to take any invidious distinction in the tr,e of '
such a phrase—(llear, hear). But if all these au•ho•
rities were doubteJ, what said Mr. Canning of out re-
lations with Tut key ? %Vhy, in writing to Mr. Rodro
on the Ist of December, 182 k, he metrions ,4 the an-
cient obligations of treaties" which existed between this
country and the Government of the Sublime Porte; and
this language was used; not from any lurking desire to
yield, but to prove to her the ruin ular degree of relation
in which the Government of thi, country held her. Hi•
therto he (Mr. Peel) trusted that he hid not said ore
word in disparagement of Admiral Codrington, or of
the skill and valour which he displayed so eminently at
Navarin—(Hear, hear). He again repeateJ, that the
Government was .prepared fully and honourably to
fulfil the Treaty of the 6th July—and he hoped the
recommendation of the Right Hon. Gentleman (Sir .1.
Mackintosh) would be adopted by the Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Hobhouse), as most satisfactory to the feelings of
the gallant Admiral, and most consistent with the usage
and practice of Parliament-g-(Hear, hear).
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT said, that after the
liberal speech which had faUen from the Right Honourable (ho-
demon (Mr. Peel), be bad very little to say, and he had no doubt
that it would be the means of prompting his Honourable 'friend
(Mv. Hobbouse) who, he was sure, telt the same candour that the
West Honourable Geatkman bed expressed, to akin to tin. con-
clusion which would be most satistactory to the Wpm, and to his
Gallar.t Friends, whose characters he had so ably oludtcated—