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London, England, 1828-06-24 00:00:00

with an unkind intention. He did nit Impose
Motives to the Ministry—be did not charge them s
triolatioo of constitutional principles—bet *Olw f
.negligence, he thought, theyhad violated lb" Owner'
.of that Hons.: He did not Wain Ulla Motion todlsA
an the Mini Wry. As a Ministry, be did not .obi'
nor did be wish to cast any serbitis reflections on fetdlvidi
bets of ,the Administration. But the . House was bow
to it; own character, and to those privileges whieh
woeful and effictive. It they disregarded 'the C
waver they possessed of controuling the public pr
ischequer of the country, they abandoned. their
The Right Honourable Gentleman seemed to
raddress rather to perplex and to confuse' them f
light on this subject. Two hundred and fifty thousand p
or two hundred thousand pounds, were voted to enable the
'Commissioners of the Land Revenue to repair and improve
'Buckingham House. " For the improvensent and repairs of
Buckingham House" were the words. The Crowh BeVgallig _
was the proper fund. Lord -Goderich stated that the repaielig
might be estimated at 5100,0601. and as they occurred in 182$; the
House contidered that the expense would run over niany years. To
raise the sum necessary various modes were pointed out with great .
precision—ampngst others the selling offices in Irelapd; but With ,
all the minuteness not a syllable was said of the money liebng‘ng -
to the claimants of France. Parliament passed tb's Act under ike - '
supposition that the expense would not exceed 200,0004 But Is -
this Parliament found itself entirely deceived. It would have been
impossible if any other men had been concerned in it not to have
said that it had been a trick to induce Parliament to begin`the wotk
with the understanding that it would only cost '200,0001. Whilst it .
was likely, before It was concluded, to amount to 630,0001. •
1 Mr. BANK ES here.lnterrupted Mr. Baring to observe, that the
completion of Buckingham Palace would only come to 432,0001. i ...
Mr. BARING resumed. He had understood that the archhe
test himself admitted that the expense would not fall short at
800,0001. This. was no matter. He would come to the mot* -
important part of the subject—bow this money had come into rho f -
bands of the Cominissloners; and how it came to be dealt with, .
as it had been by the. Treasury. It was said it had been MAO
, disposal of the Treatuty, land legally, ht admitted, it was It Ride •I,
disposal. But what aaithe meaning of Its being-pt the &span, '4".
of, the Treasury? 'Why, that it Was in their hands for the oldie ...!
service, and that they were accountable to Parliament for kali:
plicaticin. • The money was appropriated•on the 10th of
1826, when Parliament was sitting. There was no retire made' '
of the transaction to Parliament in 1827, and none in 4.828, utittfliit- •
the accidental circumstance of two. Committees being eininrffin '
transaction came out. This was the gretonsem of the change.
against the Governnsent. .• No one doubted the natutable riika
ry
of the Treasury tinisPoie ef the money, nor of Shy. funds kft7lik '
their hands by the 'House for general purposes:. Out Patin** ''
"ought immediately to have received notice of the manner lir' .
which the money•had been applied. If it had been ipplied.to:*-, ,
payment of the army or the navy, or the Sinking Fund, it would *..
have been irregular for the Treasury to have appropriated 'dire.
money, which was; to all intents and purposes public nioney,Witis lot
out giving public notice of its appropriation. But if it would hies- '
been bad to have implied this fund to'the expenses of the-arm • •
or navy, with Out the consent of Parliament, it was erotic t ,
appropriate it to a blind fund, like the Woode.and Forests, andto .
apply it to building a palace for the Crown. However nedtssaryir,
palace for the Monarch might-be, the -people'Wished, and histra
right to do.a gracibus act of that kind themselves, and not ti bassi
the money taken from them by stealth onto( a fund which ought';
to have been appropriated for public purposes-(Hear). He (kft.?
Baring) was not one of those who thought that the Soule*" it -
this country should not have a palace suited to his oration, 'add tit.'
the importance of this country; he' would" not be niggardly bas.. .
such a subject, but the people, through. their Represeotatives.bs •
that House, bad a tight to vote the money for it. They. sat there
until morning engaged in discussions abOut soloists fisherlei and •
lunatic asylums, but they would be fit tot' lunatic asylums theinsi •
selves if they allowed themselves to be wheedled and dragged • -.-
through the dirt, and did not stand up for the right of the *Set
...
!and for their own rights and the privileges. of Parliansen;l—. • •
(Cheers) He was glad the Right MOO. Geatlemae had, ansWeret :
the motion by a direct negative. This *cued enable MX .Hini.
'Friend, at all events, to record the words of that motion, mike:.
would prove the principle upon which those. who' sepportml t:•,•
.- * ).
t voted —( Hear. bear.) . ... •
Mr. BERRIES begged to be, allowed i word in expLinatleollo•
The language he used in the Fininee Coninifttee; and which *
Honourable Gentleman had 'alluded to, didsint refeeto the apisista
•priation of the money. He bad applied the words.i.it we:it-molar.,
.or be wished it was otherwipe, to the circumstance that the account"
of the•application of the money had not been ribitisly faid'bi•V
.fore Parliament.
Mr. BARING-kies the • Right tiloi. flaliffiniAenow *idtilitii.
'that the iitglecting to lay sot account:at* wansatealeas.hefote.Pat-
.ttsment was irregular?-:(11tor.). „:..... ' -....• !:;
. Mr. HARIIIES-4 anieerlectly readfto roptult-irhatiliale la
. the Committee, that as to that tin of the ' tratiseidoo•l Wished IC
Ara, otherivise.-(llene, heir).
• `Mr. BAIIII•16.1-thers4 hope that the Right. He* Gectlemsug ~
Will have no objection that- the Howe shouldlikewhe express ittti
•
wish that part of the transaction had been otherwise—(Hear, heart,.
. and laughter).
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Mr. ARBUTHI(OT said the Hon. Membei for Durham• bad'
mikotated the facts. - When Lord Goderi& brought in the Bilt ‘
for. repairing the Palace, he knew that the funds which Par' .•,
meet voted would •not be suilicient. It lappened. that in c ,
Mlsece -of the rapidity with which the
.Worka were -cati '
en, that there was
.trot a WOW' in tilt Woods :and Poieur4
sufficient to meet the expense.•• -He ltrVA..: called •one *ink.;
ing on Lord Godeeleb, and the subject Aims. introduced. Mt;
*Kenzie, one of the Commissimusrs foe the claims ote.tlin-,
Preach Government, was asked in what siate the fund Was?l
It was said to be. about 500,0001.,- aid It atipeareti at the saw
time that the claims did hot amount to more than 200,00040
there was consequently a surplus, and it was said that surplult•
might be applied to the building of thh Palate, not an appr
priatiop without the consent of Parliament, bit im a loon, to
repaid by mooeyegpected to be foitheonsing from The -*mid •
Forests. • .11e could not agrie to thewitemedi• thin thi. Lords
' the Treasury had not the power to Make this sempairy use' of tho;
money in their bands. On the face of the Act- ot Parliament the -
were authorized to do it. •He believed with, his Right Hosibm
Friend, that it would have been better if the' transaction •,.
been made' known to Parliament ; but 'there had been no eruct
position to withhold consmunicatiosis froth Parliament of ft**.
expended by the Department to which be belonged. ' In ceases
queue of the work* In Regent-strew having required a loilsk-
.
nom than Parliament bad provided, they applied to the' Sun
efflux for a loan- of 4500,00ut.--aud obtained the same amount frail.'
the Bank. Theie Mote were brought before 'Parliatnent; and
there was no desire to keep hack any facts :from Parliameht.* T.
Honourable Member stated-that the land revenue had been .tab.
creasing. In the reign of King cileorge 111. the amount was.lo,oooC.
per annum. They bad •novr between 30 aril 40,000 acres, which,
supplied timber for the use of the couotfy, and a revenue of
150,0004 a year. • .
Lord HO WICK adverted to the expense Ofluilding the Palacio
as stated by, Lord Goderich. The statensehttstiginally made vial'
200,0001. and by the last Report, he understood the building Would
amount to 430,0001. The Noble Lord cited the *speech of Me.
Pitt upon the application of Public Funds briar the sanction of
Parliament, and upon the opinion of that Minister he drew a con.
elusion that there had been in- the present installs a gross missy-
ptication of a public fund.
Mr. HUSKtSSON commenced by sayPng, that-the
Hon. Member for Callington (Mr. Baring) had stated
that-Government had an estimate before them for Car
building of the palace • at Buckinghim-house, which
estimate was limited to the sum of 200,0001. Now
what his Noble Friend, the then Chancellor of the Exf
chequer, said was this—that the estimate would not be
less than 200,0001.; and it would be remembered by'
the. House, that when that sum was voted, it was era.
,pressly understood that a palace should be erected far
more worthy of the sovereign than Buckingham.
house. The present palace was built, it was true.
upon a different site from Buckingham-house, but the
difference of situation formed no addition to Vigs
expense incurred. His NOble-Friend (Lard Goderich),
who was then Chancellor of the Exchequer, .dis..
tinctly said that he would not pledge himself • on
to the amount which the building might ultimately
1
cost. At that time, to be sure, there existed in the
House a feeling of a more liberal—he meant -a mere
pliaot—nature with :respect to the voting .of Money,
than appeared to exist at-present. There coull trot
have been a stronger proof of a disposition on. throPatt
'of the House to build a PAL'S* stetthy.of theNernaten
. .
than arose from the circumstance of the grant' he
been allowed, on the underatiotlin% g thit Claret n Mee t
wits not.to be,limited to the turn which was *Ored,4but
thati.aiallevents4Valaceihopld 'Cs iii;iit 6( 'for • the
-residence of the King of these' realossi .nlO .hose .1/11
inight observe, th'it the King of England -was,•liy. no
meat bitter 044' with respect'. to Palaces, thee' she
'caber. =wawa bock w6;liggiti% . 0* iitiliiite

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