Star.
London, England, 1821-05-17 00:00:00

tee Yeomanry acted. The Honourable 'Member Id
said, it was a matter of admiration to those mite wiz.
nessed it, that so vast a multitude should have tee%
dispersed, and so little mischief done to indisi
so ittmischiefl He would not again revert to the
bloody catalogue he held in his hand; but he would
state what he had heard from a Special Constable,
most respectable man, who was present, and who
had told him (Mr. Hobhouse), that he himself saw
full two thousand men, women, and children, as
the ground at one time—(Hear, and some Janda**
He did not see that it was subject for mirth. If he
said anything ridiculous on so solemn a subject, lie
was sorry for it. But if one only, and not 2,000, was
wounded, the subject still would merit inquiry. trw
Hon. Colleague had received no less than 119 ara.
davits from persons who were wounded on that me.;
morableday—(Hear, hear, hear)—The Hon. Mee.
her then adverted to the speech of the Hon. Meru*
(Mr. Wilmot) who had declared the Magistrates
worthy of approbation, and had tailed of clubs and
staves, and, said the Hon. Gentleman, they had i 9
flags; and, 0 horrible ! they had five caps of liberty
with them !—(A laugh).—Why was the Hon.. Gentle.
man afraid of a cap of liberty ? Had the Hes.
Member never seen an old halfpenny, which bore
that symbol of a free King ruling over a free Pee.
ple? The lion. Gentleman had alluded to his (11r.
lloblrouse's) Hon. Colleague, and said something
about imbecility of conduct ! He thciaght that charge
would not at present apply to his Hon. Colleague
and he hoped it never would ; for as Dryden said,
6, To die for treason was a common evil,
But to be hang'd for nonsense is the devil!"
He hoped his Hon. Colleague would lose no time is
repelling this imputation---(//ear).—lle would now
advert to the speech of the Solicitor-General, who
asked why this subject was not brought forward at
an earlier period of the Session ? W hat a queuitn
was this ! Was any one ignoi ant whe: e his Hem
Colleague Had been for the last three months?—
(Hear, hear).—Such remark,: wet e really trifling nil
the House! The Hon. and Learned Gentleman he
said, the speech and motion of the lion. Baronet was
a proof of the liberty which existed in this country.
True, it was so. We did enjoy the liberty of speech
in the House. He felt the value of that liberty, and
so long as he could enjoy it he would not fail tomer-
cise his privilege—(Hear, hear).—The Hon. Gentle-
man concluded his speech with the following quota-
tion froni Cicero to Atticus, 20th Letter, 2d Book:

" Num guide,* moo gualant marl* ciatas moriturt of c
owes: dt gum mat ado, isprobest, parental-, &lewd, varitssam
re nu& fit, apertegue loguantur et jam dare gamut, Lamm ad.
cina usilla afferatur, segue mina resisti wii infersecion e pane arias:
etur ; nee ride Sans gui finis cedeudi prefer tritium Alums it."
The Hon. Gentleman sat down amid loud cheering.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, after tiek
extent to which this discussion had gone during two
nights, upon a queition not new either to Parliament
or to the country, he certainly was not disposed to
occupy much of the -time of the House, yet he was
sure Gentlemen would feel, after the many allusion
made to him, in the course of the debate, that inde-
pendent of the responsible situation which he held,
he would not stand justified if he withheld some ex--
planation. In the first view of the subject he col-
lected from the Hon. Baronet, that it was not simply
the Manchester business that .was brought undercon-
sideration, but the conduct of the Executive Go-
vernment. The Noble Marquis was prepared to de•
-
fend the course the Magistrates took in that transac.
tion, and he expressed a hope that the House would
allow him to state the course they did take. He first
wished to recal to the recollection of the House who
share the Government had in this question. He
was bound to oppose the accuracy of the statemar
made by the Hon. Baronet, who had asserted, that
the melancholy transactions at Manchester were coo-
certed by his Majesty's Ministers. He should not
shrink from those transactions, yet he could declue
that Government was entirely clear of all that hair
pened, and that none of the circumstances could be
ccntrouled by his Majesty's Government. It was
not until the transaction was reported and received ia
letters from Mr. Hay, that they had any cognizance
of it. Certainly it was with pain and feelings of dik
tress that the Government heard of the blood shd
that day. No honourable man could believe—ad
even the enemies of Government could be bag
enough to believe that Ministers took measures to
shed the blood of his Majesty's subjects—(Hear, hear,
from both sides of the House).—The Noble Marais
repeated that he should never shrink from giving the
Magistracy of Manchester that support he thought
their conduct required ; but whilst he gave them thu
support, heleft them liable to the laws of there'll'
try. The Hon. Baronet said Government had trod'
led out of its course in affording the parties rem
tion, and the Hon. Baronet did not know, perhaps,tig
they never presumed to try those serving under them.
—They left them to the laws of the country. Tiff
declined giving any opinion on their conduct. 1W
did not say whether persons acted bona fide is !II;
charge. of public duty or not. That principle 1✓
been uniformly adopted by Government. The OP
nourable Baronet might just as well say that Og
conduct of Government brought on the riots inCael
bridgeshire. Satisfaction with respect to the nogg
of the Magistrates had been expressed, but it was'
that blood had been shed. His Noble Friend ea
happy to find upon a public calamity, as. the Mae
chester Meeting was, that Magistrates and Yore*
the constitutional bulwark of the country, were fooe
intrepid to face difficulties, and daring moue g
have their conduct reviewed by the country. it W.
Circular of Lord Sidmouth could have had the el'
fect of saving them from trial, it might have sem'
sioned the indignation of the country; but it wags'
thing more than an expression of approbatioo,!
finding the Public bad received that protection WI"
the law provided. It was unjust to say it gas
bloody interposition. With respect to what the H°'
nourable Baronet had said of the share he (the Mg_
quis of Londonderry) took in the transaction, ttl
House would allow him to offer a few observatig°
Although he had not the honour to address the salt
Parliament before which he endeavoured to jui!
himself and colleagues in the Manchester transactgt
yet still he was before the Parliament. Hensctt
state to Gentlemen, that the proposition against
was rejected by .he largest majority ever kaini
within those walls. The numbers were 581bitgch
votes. If ever there was a question on n
public feeling was wound up, it was on that gtclr