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London, England, 1818-02-28 00:00:00

long before they werst,tied t—lt was after they were commtitted.
They had three or four examlnatioos.
were tried in tie January sessions 7—Yes.
Cannot you bring to your recollection the time Mr. Westwood
hinted this to you 7—h might have been about the Middle ot De-
cember.
I wish you would recollect yourself more particularly 7 I cannot.
You do not think it was later than that? I cannot charge my
memory.—Was it within a fortnight after they were in custody?
About three weeks.
Were you not about three weeks afterwards with Finney at
the Brown Bear, and did you not sit with him the whole evening ?
I never have.
I think I shall rove you were there with him three weeks af-
terwards?—No, was not. I have not been with Finney since '
• morning or two after the women were taken.
You have been In a chaise cart riding with Finney?—Never in
my life. I never knew that he had one.
Have you never seen it?—No.
You saT you had a knowledge of Kelly and Spicer?—l have
seen Kelly s boy at the time his father kept a public house where
bad characters resorted.
Did Finney point them out to you in Bow-street? No, never.
Finney used to come to the Bunch of Grapes, and I have drank
a glass of ale once or twice with him ; but that was long before.
I had any information respecting these men.
What other reward are you expecting to receive, besides what
the Bank have given you 2—None.
You expect no conviction money 7—No ; there is none.
You do not expect your expenses ? No.
Has the prosecutor had his expenses 7—Yes.
What has he had T.--Five pounds, so he said : I did not see
'any money paid.
There is a warrant out for Finney nowt—Not that I know of.
I did not know till Harris told me this morning that be was
wanted. I said I thought as much, by Mr. Westwood telling
me to bring him to him as soon as he was caught.
Have you any knowledge where he is at present?--I have not.
think I should be able to learn something of him. He may be
down at BristoL lie has been in the habit of going to Bristol.
He told me that he came out of the country ; that he had been
down to a job. I forget where it was. This was before begave
me the information.
You did not know he was then passing notes at all?—No.
You did not know that was the way in which he got his living?

—No, I never knew any thing of him.
You did not know he was always flush with money T—l did
not know enough of him to see him flush wi h money, any more
than going into houses where he was. When we want a thief
we ate in the habit of going into places where we may catch 20
or 50 sometimes, and sometimes not above Eve or six.
Did you disguise yourself?—Yes.
In what way ?—I only put on a silk hanekerchief ; I had no
time to change any more. I was standing at the bar drinking a
glass of ale, and I started off directly; and Finney went away,
and I ran to get Smith. I had scarcely been in St. Martit.'s-1
lane ten minutes when they came.
Was any bargain made between you and Finney 7—No.
What did you give him?—Nothing. He borrowed a shilling
of me one morning.
How came it you did not give him any thing, when you told
Braidley that you thought you were very badly paid, as you had
to give the informer something? - Braidley tells a falsehood. He
I asked me what I had ; I told him that they gave me 201. and
Smith led. and I said, the least I expected would have been SCI.
a-piece. I said, if we have, as we usually had, to give people
something foe giving us the information, we should have very
little. I said, when I see that man, I shall certainly give him
something for giving the information, which yve generally do.
Braidley said, he would give us a joint of meat apiece; and I
told him we would call on Saturday for it.
You told him you had been paid for the prosecution ; but that
you had been paid badly, because you had to give the informer a
considerable share out of it. You say, about a fortnight ago you
did go to Braidley, and you told him you had to give something
to the person who had given you the information. Was that
probable, when you knew that this man was wanted for pasting
bad notes ?—I should not have given him any money.
Yon told Braidley so T—l said it was a thing we usually did,
for information. _ _

I think you said you recollected Finney being in Tothill-fields
prison, and that his mother had destroyed herself 7-1 neycr
heard of that.
You have known him three years. During that time lad he
been in the habit of giving you Information upon subjects of this
sort?—No, never; only to tell me to take this Shilling. H. was
stopped on suspicion at the same time Armfield was taken, who
was a terrible desperate man. Ile fought dreadfully, and &an
cut him in the calf of his leg with his cutlass, and Ski Wag being
up with him. made use of a bad expression, and said. Why do
you not comae up and fight? Bran said he *tempted to stab
him, and I thought it my duty to take him into custody. I
took him. Ile was examined and discharged. I should think
the money this man might have had of me for that job, might be
15s. or 16$. but nothing for this.
Did you see, that night, Finney and the boys together when
you came up ?—I saw them coming np St. Martin's-lane toge-
ther. He told me to go there, aid he would point them out.
You saw them coming up together in conversation ?—f do not
know whether they were In conversation. They were together;
Finney crossed over and spoke to me.
They were then walking and coming up together?—Yes.
You know Emma Connor, who was convicted with her sister
for passing a forged note with her sister in Cranburne-alley7-I do
not know her by sight. I did not see her when she was in custody.
You knew that Finney and she were connected, and you must
have supposed that she was passing notes as receiving them from
him ?—1 took him with that view to Mr. Westwood's, to get an
order to see the woman.

You know very well when a woman is passing notes and living
with a man, the person she lives with is the person who assists in
obtaining those notes?—lie said she was taken with Kelly's
girl; that is all he told me. I passed the girl this morning In
Drury-lane ; we were looking for hcr.
Has she been charged with uttering ?—No.
You must naturally draw your conclusion that Finney, being
the person who kept her, was the person who supplied her with
those notes ?—lt did not strike me at the time. He has absconded.
Did you never see Finn?y and the two boys together till that
night ?—Never. I had never seen the lads before that night.

It is very singular, when they weth mixing together for so
many months, and going about with a cart, all of which must
have come under your eyes, that you should not have noticed
it ?--I did not know it. Kelly's father came to me, and said,
" Finney sold my boy like a bullock. It was Charley Finney that
gave you the information." I said it was not; for I would not
satisfy suck a man as him. I had never seen the father to speak
to him before that.
Is Smith here?—Yea.
How many times have you been paid by Kr. Westwood mo-
ney for prosecutions of this sort ?—Never bet once before ; that
was when a man wax brought out of the country. Me and Ad-
kins, and another officer, searched him; Mr. Westwood admit-
ted him as an evidence, be saying be would give up the persons
who made them ; upon that Westwood pre him some money,
and Adkins and me went with him, my being so well known
about Golden-lane. We had a man of the name of Tanner; we
took him, and said, mind this man does not get away. We stood'
behind; but, however, this man met with another in a public-
house; they had something to drink; the man who was in cus-
tody went In at one door and out at another ; Tanner pursued
him, but, instead of catching the prisoner, he caught hold of his
friend.

Were you rewarded for that job ?—I made out a bill, and
Mr. Westwood allowed me a

You Dever had any reward for Bank tokens from the Bank?
—No, never. I have had money from the Mint. I had one con-
viction here, of a man who had been found guilty, death, before
for uttering bad money. . .

Have you something to do here now ?—No.
Having heard that Finney was at Bristni, have you taken any
steps to take him ?—I said, I knew he was in the habit of going
to Bristol; I have made every enquiry after bim.
Have you taken any steps by which you could find him?---I
have watched the place at Westminster where he lived, and been
over the water to people where be used to be most intimate, and
I cannot hear any thing of him at ail. lam certain he is well
aware he would be taken into custody if be were caught. If I
were in the habit of being in the country I might meet with kiln.
You said upon the trial, there was Nobody present when you
took Kelly and Spicer at an; and you saw no person whatever?
+There was no person whew we saw something pass.
Did you not swear that you had received no information from
any person whatever? —No. I did Not.
The question was asked yen whether you bed ?—I said I bad
suspicion, from information I had received.
Limbrick has been suspended.
Alderman Wooa presided as Magistrate upon the occasion.