Star.
London, England, 1829-05-15 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS. MAT 14.

TOTAL COMMISSION.
The Royal Assent was given by Cinueslssion to the Composition
of Assessed Taxes Bill, the Spanish Palms Bill. the Neer Victual.
ling DeParonest Bill. the Naval Mews Widows Pension Bill,
the Swan River Settlement 8111, the Newfoundland Fishery Bill.
the. East India Writers' Bill, the Dublin Gas Light Bill.iffr Man.
chewer Railway Bill, Tyrell's Divorce Bill. the Registrillest of
*Mims (Scotland) Bill. several Natiaralisation Bills, and a great
number slather Private
The Lards Commissioners were. the Loan Camscsmaa, the jisti,
of assavessormr and Viscount Maims&
The Bills tors4re the Home were forwarded In their respective
stages.
MIS4OII VSOM THE COMMONS.
Sir A, Gwen Hr. Alderman WOOD, Mr. 'Juncos's'. and other'
Menshen brought up the rife Annuities Bill, the London Bridge
Approseises Rik the St. Paul Cuvent.garden Vestry Bill, and ervW
sal other Private BUN which were aft.rwards read M first time.
kir. Domes' hens the Bast India Home presented a Return of
Salaries and Pensions granted by the Bast India Company.
On the motion of the Ball of Moo asuguari several Stuarts'
were ordered to be laid before the Home, relsting, to the imports.'
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ties of Grain. • •

CANALII.
Vieettnt UODERICH had to present a Petition to their
'Alps which, although not emonterod with the continental or de-
limit* Interests of the kingdom, was nevertheless well entitled to
ski consideration faiths* House-and of his Majesty's Mistletoe
It proceeded Iron a large eumber of the inhabitants of Upper and
Lower Canada, complaining of grievances. Sonar of these, o bleb
theresseen,rated asisievances, did not, in his private opillitin. deli=
serve that name. Uist there were other instances in which he
really chastest their complaints well founded. The lint topic of
complaint was the dismissal of Mr. Justice Willis, because be had.
refused to sit in the absence of the (Met Justice and the other
Plaine Judges. He did not contend that the conduct of. that Judge
had been the most judicious, but at the same time he though: that
whatever obscurity eziated in the law should lie cleared up. The
petitioners prayed. that the Judges should be made immoveable.—
In this prayer he concurred. • The petitioners alto, complained of
the composition of the Legislative Council, whose functions were
analogous tethose of the Hone of Lords in thit.country. This
body was compoted almost entirely of persons in the employ ut
Government. He thought it desirable, and he Mt confident the
Noble Duke would agree with him, to give as soon as possible to
this body a greater degree of independence. The Beecutive
Council alsowas complained of. This was in a great measure cont.
posed of the same persons who formed the Legtslative Council,
and the Colonists complained that they had to advise the Governor
as to giving his assent to the Billy fee which they bad already voted
in another capacity. The petitioners prayed also for the right et
impeachment against public functionaries. They also wished toe
an alteration of the Jury system, which he thought they might'
manage among themselves, without the interference of the Impe-
rial L.gislature. Whatever might be thought pt these complaints
and prayers, there could be none as to the importance of the Co-
lones from whence they proceeded. Their geographkal position
gave rise to a natural feeling of anxiety for the happiness, strength,
and loyalty of these colonies. The people he believed to be gond
and loyal at heart, although they might be subj, et to occasional
ebullitioni of turbukoce and discontent. The petition olvrted to
areeh delivered in the other Haase of Parliament by a night
Iron. Friend of his, then tkieretary for the Culoolei, which roved.
as they said. that they were inientpresented in tins eimntry. He
need scarcely say that. in Ms Opinion, the arsch ,ut. his Bight
Hon. Friend did doe afford any just ground of conipLtiot.. lie did
cwt kiwiw indeed, whether, according to the practice of their Lord.
ships, they Auld receive this roam, alludiug as it did'espresaly
and by name to a speech supposed to have beret detected in the
other House of Parliament. . .

The Duke of WELLINr6TON entirely concurred in the views
or the Noble Lord se to the importance and necessity of cultivat-
ing the sued will of the lehabliants Of these valuable Carkiniesby
every means in the power of the Government or Parliainebt to
adopt. hut having had this petition in his bands fur a conederable
time, or rather a copy of it, which had been presented to his Ma•
jesty, he must confess that hr saw little in it that could justiftthe
interterence of Government or of Parilameni. There was miseb
relatangen matters with respect to which the (oboists had the
Moses ot &laving themselves, sal they were many parts et thy'
petition also that solicited alterations which in his °Oliva ought
not to be made. The Noble Lord had stared only p trt ut the case
of Judge Willis. The fact was, that in the absence of the Chid Jus-
tice this Judge had (bought proper not only to protest against the
actual constitution of the Court, not only to absent biotech Iron% his
duty. but to declare that all the proceedings of the Court which bad
taken place during the absence of the Chief Justice were illegal
In consequence of this conduct he was first stiperseded and limn
disinbseed by the Lieut. Governor. Judge Willis then presented a
petition to the Privy Council. atid after lull deliberation all optoutu
was pronounced. and his Majesty was edvi.ed to approve and con-
, firm the decision of the Lieuvenant•Gravernor. So that unless the
Noble Lord was prepared to bud fault with the decision ot the
Commute.: ot the Privy Council. he must see that the Petilloodets
had nu just 'resod of complaint with reference to this sir.ject.
They. neat desired that the Alembers ot Goveinment should be
made responsible to the Legislative Commit. Hut they forgot that
they were a distant Colony, and situated un the 'roomed a foreign
country. in these OfinilMit3HCCS it Was evident that the same pes.:
Niles of Government which were found so beneficial in this coon.
try, were not egpbcable. If they bad just ground. of complaint
against any public officer, they could apply to the Privy Council ; and
then; as lbw Noble Lord knew, the conduct ot that Oflicer would
become the subject of judicial inquiry. Although it might, per-
haps, at ionneftitere period, be expedient to make the Members ot
69YernInent to* this and other Colonies responsible to the local
Legislatures, they never could he placed in a similar situation to
that which the hlinisters ot the Crown in England held, in refs-
TenCe to the Legislature of this country. A. to the complaint that
the Legislative Council was principally composed •ut theOlbeenut
Government, It must be recollected that It would be excessively
iaconvenierat topersont to come from, a great dicance to Attend Its
their legislative duties. On this accouot it had been tumid tiece..
...try to toren the Legislative Council ot the meioses and servant.
ut Odeertinsent ulna wets, always resident upon the spot. Hut
orders/asit been given fur the great landed proprietors ut the bet
ttbstent tbebe•bututitbeediotts the Legislative Council in 'wiry in.
-puce. in which there appeared a probability of their attending to
itd duties,. As toothe Exceutivi Council, it was true that many of
ifs Members vine also Alernbers of the L. gislative Council. The
Judge.; as well as other pasties connected with Government, were
in tine situation 1 but be did not know that it was incouvensent, ur
rn any respect utsiectionable. There was nothing, in short, in the
Petition that amounted to such a grduud of complaint as called tor
the imeiterence of Parliament.
Zeit BATHURST would trouble their lwraships with a very
few words in respect merely to the case ot Judge Willis. This
IlLearned Judge not only declared th.t no business could be done
briarse the Court was not full, but pronounced that all that hal
been domain such circumstances null and void : and in these °plumes
be insiatedtatter the representations a the Lieuteuant Governor.—
le their bee,snse accessary to appoint a provisional Judge, but the
Lieuteoant Governor bad no power to Jo this without removing
Judge. Willis, for the Act or Parliament authorised the Celousal
Government as ambit • new Judge only in the cases of death ur
?renewal. The Judge was therefore renioved. and a providoisd'
Jody appointed. The Liestenant Governor knew that Judo;
Willa had the right el appeal to the Perry Council. This appeal
wasthadr. and when it was taken into consideration the Cuiet
Ban.* of the Eacbequer and the Vice Chancellor were present...A;
They heard' Counsel at graft length, and then' repented td the
Crown that awe was no ground whatever fur the opinion Judge
Willis had eapremed. Toe cuosequence was that his dismissal was,
confirmed. Let their Lordships consider the aituation to which
the Colony woo reduced% when there was sib longer any Court of
jilig's Mesa, mid when, a vast 'number of its former deci-hums were •
auliard. voids As to. the reception of the Petition,
whocittelarred signalises aspires* suppmeti to have been made in
awake /deem rd. Parliament, their Lordships must see ,that it
'would be a preatdent likely to lead to great inconecusetsce and
Wilier, sad the Noble Lord to whom it bad been entrusted
would probeety be disposed to withdraw it.'
Visa** GODgitiCH said that be would beg leave to withdraw
afro politica, ea test would beta more gracious mode of dispersiug of
it than if it were jectesi.
The Merl of DAItNLEY presented a Petition from the Society
foe sho Redacties of Voor.sotes, meeting at the King's Head In
the Itpuirry, praying their. Lordships to take into their cou.idera-
don the emblem at establishes( Roar Laws in [relied, which was
leld` llyde ffM fable.
The itArl old be woad now move for Returns emulated
wMlyhie etillieet, rah he well not de se without again eimgrlto-

FRIDAY 41'ENIN(1, MAYIS, 1929.

sting their Lordships on the fact that le a recent discussion in
another place not one person could be found to deny that some-
thing must be done. He trusted the Noble Duke who bad already
done in much for frikod, would devote, during the summer, his
enaction to this subject. There were already Acts in existeeee
the relief of the suffering poor in Ireland, to a certain extent,
hit what he wished for was something more effectual. The Nubia
Lord then moved for Returns of Grand Jury Presentments con-
meted with Hospitals. Houses of Industry, as id other similar in-
stitutions in Ireland, together with an account of the number of
bath institutions, and of the fends by which they wort maintained.
The Earl of 1.1 MERCK had Do intention to oppose the mo-
tion for the Returns; but the Noble Lord was mistaken if he sup-
posed that he was the only permit he this country who took a dif-
hewn view of the subject (rim himself. Every man who knew
soy thing of the state of Irelatiffenust know that the scheme of the
Noble Lord would produce wholesaleeoniseation. Ile called upon'
she Church of Ireland to discountenance this project, which must
=e to their prejudice as mush as to that of the Laity. The
lord then reed a variety of details to show that the poor of
Ireland were not loft in a state of destitution. .

Lord VA ENHA M declared himself favourable to a system of
provision for then who were unable to provide for tbesuseives; but
be went no further. He should be sorry, to see the system which
mailed it England Introduced into Ireland. But it he was flue
ready mistaken, his Majestyl Government would have much
sitursio &for' Ireland iban what 'was comprehended in the sug.
illtbo Noble Lord. He did not believe that the measure
y passed vrovid seeureahe prowprity of Ireland. He had so.
from different pots of that sountry which .bowed that out.
talfes.el every kind cir Vie 401Na6011 Davi than before the
prising al chit -Act. Millie Lord rhea silvieted to the abuses
of Wood Jury Preernenafflorev and recommended same general
system of roinl.making under *dentate assuagement. It would
also be oecessary to amend the fitab.leattug Aot. lie would meadow
at the same time another important subject connected with Ireland
—he meant the • Arm, Au' which would soon expire. This -was
an Aet of great severity, sod ought oat to be reoswed without
moddleatioa.
The Earls of Mammy and Lbasases mutually explained.
Tie motion was then agreed to.
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BILL DUTIES DILL.
-This Rill was read a second dare and, an the motion of the
Duke of Witi.t.rroeurs. ordered to be committed on Monday.
The Bari of MAL II USURY moved that their Lordahlps be
summoned for that day.—Agreed to.
Tbs House then adjourned.
• HOUSE OF COMMONS. •

Al seen as the Segues took the Chair, a meanie was brow*
from the House of Lards, requiring the attendance of the Coal
moue ii• the other House, for tht purpose of bearing the Royal
Assent gimme by Commission to several Bills agreed to by both
Homai.—( Poe the names of whims see Lords' Report.)
A person from the India Home brought up some Papers ordered
by the House.
Mr. Queen, from the Treasury, brought up Papers relative to
the ipight-bouses.
at. PRO rHICROB presented a Petitioalrom the inhabitants
mf linden. and Westminster in favour of the removal of Smithfield
Illorttet•
Mr. IL GORDON said be hoped the Report would be biought
op ei-morrow, and that tie City Members would attend in their
Flatus, in order that that very lodieroise MU might heshrown out.
Alderman WA ITH M AN brought up ,the Report upon the Si.
Dunstan's Church

Mr. L.WHITBLUAD presented a P.etition from the Ml*
tact s tithe barters' part of the Metropolis against the San Lamina
Water.w.4*_
Mr. • LITTLETON presented ewe Petitions, one from tV
Mhst‘irawnery of West Bromwich, and the.oelstr from the irun
Masters of Stafford, praying that the trade
.to itsdia might be
throes/it open.
Mr. LUMP presented a Petition from a Elate to Susseff. cam,
Oiling ',Edge Wuol Trade.
sr. TS• BAKING presented a Parities' tram .Mr.. Widisi
Aleadows Wine*, of Great St. Helens, Bishripsgate, containing
supgestioo.. relative to the Nor Rum
Air. ,3ioOltS, mused fur a new writ fur Wexford, in the
room of Admiral Liam, who has acc..pted the Chi;tern Hundreds
Mr. It. DOUGLAS presented a Petition from the Merchants
host odic,. Traders of Glasgow, in favour of opening a trade to India.

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StA NieleT presented a Petition frym the province of
Upper Canada, cluispiaining of tile manner in which the Govern.
strut et that Colony is an ducted. 'flu. Flom Nleniber stated at
great kpvh the particular grievances set forth in the Petniun.

Mr. LA UOUCHERE said, that he had no hesitation in sup-
porting this Petition, *hick was well entitled to the serious .aue-
attleratiun of the Hou.e.

Sir GEORGR NURRAYlegretted that the Petition was not
more 'lit finite than it was, as his tiMitsty's Government were at
all 111111C4 111111i0114 to afford redress when grievauces were- pointed
out in them ; but he did nut conceive that it was. on the presenta-
tion of a petition that the House cuuW pruperly go into the merits
of ally great question.
Mi. HUM Rsaid he was extremely sorry to heir the Right Hoo.
Colonial Secretary give so unsatinactury an answer upon kautiject
of 30 much importance as ante which involved the welfare tif. a
whole nation ; but it was to.. common with his Majesty's Mainers
to waive the consideration uf great questiuos in that way. He had
the, humour three years ago of prese e two petitions froM Upper
'lnd Lower Canada. praying the House to take into consideration
the state of the Colony with regard to Its internal Government, but
although a Cummittee had been appoiared tor that purpose, still
nothing bad been dune, and the grievances wire yet unredressed.
Mr. FITZGERA LI) said, that with respect to the objection
which had been admitted by the Honourable Member who bad
presented the Petition to be contained in it, be c .nsidered it a sub-.
stantial and not • a technical objection, and would suggest to the
Honourable Member the propriety of withdraing the Petition
utter having it read.
Mr. S I'ANI.KY then consented to withdraw the Petition.
Ur. LA HOU(' H ER E then gave notice that he would bring for-
ward a nnitidis on the subject un Thursday, the 41st instant.
A mes-age Irons the Lords bruught down their Lordships assent
to *ever at orate Sills.

Mr. iIUMK presented a Petition from the Royal Burgh of
31 ttttt Wet, against the Scottish Gaol BM, and another to the same
effect from another burgh. Also a petition from the carpet weavers
of Kiddermiiister, stating that they were in great distress, and
writ:toed their ►ufferisaga M the Corn Laws. They prayed for
Free Trade.
Mr HKATHCOTE asked whether it was considered that any
real good could result from the discussion of the Corn Laws at this
time. lie wished to know what were the intentions of Gownsman
with repeal to the Corn guestioa. He considered that hlmost any
change would he for the worse.
Mr. V. FITZGRRALD said it was not the intention of Go.
'eminent to propose any alteration in the present Coro Laws. He
considered that this was not the time in the present state of the
country. ti) enter into a discussion without the hope of being able
to come to any beneficial conclusion.
• Isir. HUME, in moving that the petition be printed. wished to
observe that it was not his Intention to abstain from bringing for-
ward his promised motion on the subject. He begged to say that
p *as rather his Intention to persevere, than to desist.

Mr. WA RUUKTON could not think that this was an improper
opponunity to bring forward such a motion, because the country
was in a state of great distress. The agriculturalists always bad
been pressing upon such occasions. they always took advantage of a
time of low prices.
Mr. Alderman WAITH MAN considered that the Corn Laws
were not the cause of the distresses of the country.
THAD' WITH INDIA AND CHINA.

Mr. WOOLRYCHE WHITMORE rise, pursuant
to notice, to bring IHrward his motion. He said that
the time had at•length arrived when this great •subject
must neces-atily be discussed ; and it contained matter
of so much moment, and concerned such large interests,
.hat he (gated that he should have shrunk appalled from
thevcimsideration of it, but he felt that the subject it.'
seal was ime calculated to melte a deep impression, that
the fscta connected w ith it were astounding in their na-
lute. and that the consequences arising from it were she
greatest and most serious that could be considered. It
was not to be wondered that he apprehended that he
should not place the question in so clear a light as such
lan important question ought to be placed in-; but then