Star.
London, England, 1810-02-13 00:00:00

siNECIIRE OFFICES.

Mr. FULLER rose to make his promised motion
on the subject of Sinecure Offices, and observed that
lie could hardly do better than commence by reading
the words of one of the ablest and most industrious
men tl.'s country had ever produced—the late Judge
Hale. The substance ofthe observations of Sir M. Hale
were, •, that there existed a great many sinecures and
places, the duties of which were executed by deputy;
the former of which ought to be abolished, and the lat-
ter maintained only at the salary allowed to the deputy.
He particularly enumerated offices of this description
in the Exchequer, such as the Clerk of the Pipe, the
Comptrollei of the Pipe, the King's Remembrancer, the
Usher of the Exchequer, dec." The most prominent
part of the passage, it will be recollected, was read on
a former occasion by Sir S. Romilly. Mr. Fuller, in
continuation, remarked, that it was hardly possible for
Lim to add much to the strong and poignant words
of that great man, Judge Hale. But it ought to be
remembered, that the fees of these law places were
the expence of process so
:onsequence, that the object
wing home the administra-
In's door, was in a great
:pence was ten times greater
The oppressive nature
le or nothing, was pecu.
in the West Indies; who
per cent. on their capital.
to pay these sinecure fees,
to be paid by the public
Ilanters, or any description
objection to the influence
•ess3rily increased with the
and the great expenditure,
ie means of preserving this
This attack was not on
it on the avaricious part of
ided for their younger chil-
es. There were many who
perhaps, to the House of
Ines heaped up, or scattered
Ist, from their not knowing.
adopted this way of provid--
ldren. The amount paid
uted chiefly by deputy, he
Out of this the £55,000
to pay the salaries of such
cached to them ; and by the
be gained by the public.
Illy of the influence of the
tons and exalted Monarch,
/hose good qualities, along
!lson, and the divine mind of
try to such a pitch of glory
ioned in his old age, might,
desire his physician to turn
he might not see the base
mankind. He concluded by
in a Bill to abolish sinecures,
the standard of the sums
the lives of the present pos.

was undoubtedly favoura-
,hject of the Hon. Gentle-
It the motion ought-to be
ibject was brought in a ma-
ise. The Hon. Gentleman

present, in ascertaining what
shed, as there were some exer
-licit required not abolition

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but regulation. If the House stoold adopt the gene
ral principle of the abolition, then a committee 'nights
be appointed tcr examine into the nature of the variou
offices, ascertain what ought to be abolished, where
the salaries of the deputies only ought to be continued'
in what cases the salaries of the deputies ought to be
increased, and in what cases diminished. He did not
see well how the object could be accomplished by any
other plan than this, and he recommended the post-
ponement of the motion.
Mr. WA RD (the Honourable) felt himself called
1 upon to state the reasons for the vote he was about to
give, as they might not be .exactly understood from
the simple act of voting for the motion of the Hon.
Gentleman. For that motion he intended to vote, but
at the same time, he could not adopt the notion which
appeared to be entertained by some, that the propriety
of abolishing sinecures was a truth so plain and almost
self-evident, as to expose those who refused to concur
in it to suspicions of their political integrity. He beg-
ged to be considered as hating no share in that vulgar
prejudice. The pr. ptiety of leaving a certain fund in
the hands of the Crown, to be dealt out in pensions to
those who did nothing for them, was with him a doubt-
ful point : indeed the doubt was so strong in his mind,
that if we lived in such times as existed about half a
century ago, he did not believe he would give his as. ;
sent to any measure of this kind, and therefore he did
not think that any blame attached to those who might I
differ from him on this question, any more than blame
could attach to a mere difference of opinion on any
other question. But he would vote for the measure of
the Honourable Gentleman now, precisely on the
ground which the Mover had disclaimed; because he
thought that the enormous influence of the Crown
ought by all fair and constitutional means to lie di-;
minished. Many years ago, a memorable resolution i
had passed in that House, 4{ that the influence of the
Crown had increased, was increasing, and ought to be ;
diminished." If, atthat time, the resolution was correct
in point of fact ; if it was nearly so;. if it was not a;
complete and palpable falsehood, what was the state
of the influence of the Crown now ? During the last
thirty years, it had been rapidly increasing; strength-
ening
witk our weakness, until it arrived at its present
enormous height—such a height that it pervaded the '
whole face of the country ; that it insinuated itself al-
most into every family in the nation ; and that there
was hardly an individual so obscure, or insulated, as 1
,not to be subject to it, either directly or through his I
connections. (Hear, hear.) But to shew to what an
enormous height the influence of the Crown had !
grown, nothing more was necessary than the fact, I
that these were the Ministers of the country—(loa
cries of hear, hear!) for if it had not grown to such a 1
size as never had been known under the House of
Brunswick, such a Ministry could not have existed a'
moment (Hear, hear!) nay, no such Administration
could ever have been formed, as no one could have I
ventured upon such an experiment. (Hear, hear!)
—No one could more detest then he did any thing
which led to violent and revolutionary changes ; he
would go further and say, that if there was any ,
branch to which he would without much apprehen-
sion allow rather more than its due share of power,
it was the monarchical branch ; but for the sake
of the people, some stop ought to be put to the enor-
mous
growth of the power of the Crown, and also for 1
the advantage of the Crown itself, (Hear, hear !) lest
the time should at last come when it must extinguish I
the other branches, or be itself extinguished. (Hear,.
hear!) If he would diminish the power of the Crown, 1
it was to widen its basis, and increase its security. I
There was nothing more to be deprecated at present I
than the abstraction of the mind by minor objects 1
from those of a greater arid more extensive import. I
ance. Of all the reforms which were agitated, there I
were t which he thought of prominent conse-
quence : first, A reform in the great departments of
the State, which probably might, to a certain degree,
be expected from the labours of the Finance Com-
mittee ; and, secondly, Reform in the whole mode
and principle of conducting the war. (Hear, hear.)
The House would recollect that twice as much had ,
been expended on the late calamitous and most im- ;
politic Expeditions, as would have purchased the fee I
simple of all these sinecures. What was the use of ;
our economy, if the fruits of it were to be converted I
into a fund for the Ministers to squander upon such I
frantic expeditions as that to Walcheren ? (Hear,l
hear!) For his part he had rather that the money i
should be thrown away upon the id:est and most use-
less of mankind, than that it should form in the
hands of Ministers an instrument for the destruction
of our soldiers. (Hear, hear.) He could name no
article of expence so expensive as a weak and pro-
jecting Ministry ; Hear, hear.) and he thought the
Hon. Gentleman who made the motion would do'
more good to his constituents, to his country, and to
his Sovereign, by one vote for the exclusion of such
Ministers, than by any proposition of this nature, in
which he would find himself most obstinately op-
posed by those 'whom he in general supported. (Hear,
hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
adverted in forcible terms to the remedy for all evils
which the Honourable Gentleman ( Mr. Ward) maim.;
mended. Change but the Government, put my
friends•in place, and then the public feeling and pub-
lic hope will be gratified. Let but the country again
see in power that consummation of virtue and constel-
lation of talent, and every cause for public complaint
will cease to have effect. Upon them, at this moment,
were fixed the eyes of the people, and if the Honour-
able Mover (Mr. Fuller) be but solicitous for the at-
tainment of his object, he had only to join our pha-
lanx to secure it. Such were the observations of the
Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Ward), but what com-
plexion did the real facts give this statement ? Were
those that inveighed against sinecure offices, them-
selves so wholly free from the imputation of holding
such situations ? Were they not as much connected
with the anticipation of the King's prerogative, as that
Government which was accused for supporting their
continuance; or rather was it not 'the fact that such
offices were held by those opposed to his Majesty's
Government in a much greater proportion ?-.Hear,
hear.) Was it then fair ? Was it honest thus to amuse,
to deceive the people by an affected hostility to the
continuance of places, which were in the hands of
those very persons in a far greater proportion who
propagated the delusion ? With respect to the offices
themselves, there were vast shades in. their constitn-
tion, and he was convinced that any attempt tq abo-
lish them would deprive the state of a greet deal
of efficiency. Indeed be did not think the House

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would do wise even to see upon the principle of theiddand whither cm the Right Hon. Gentkm
posite (Mr..ferceval) might not be • 311°P.
impeached •
Honourable Mover. It was Impossible even in 04
operation of that principle, bat that some substitute such distribution continued, where was the ' "
toto
cthoeniceoruantvryerythlaatrghoesiwoecouoldren, onit
ost
advise secuth
should be provided ; and thatbehig the case, he con-aitsty
tended that the best course was to let things remainaultt
as they were Allusion had been made to the me. (the Tellership of the Exchequer) o_ un a
,himself
movable proposition of Mr. Dunning, relative to the Adverting to die correspondence between
Lord M
increased influence of the Crown ;and it was thence vine and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in ee• ,
inferred, that if the limitation of that influence was the latter proffered, though • i not a share in the
necessary in 1780, it became much more so in the vernment, an elevation in the peerage, Mr. Creeve.
present times. That was what he denied. Since that considered it as a fresh proof-how little the feelings ,
period, Mr. Burke's plan of reforni in
.the public ex- the people had to do with the feelings of
the Crewe
penditure' had been carried into effect ;as was the Mr. ROBERT DUN i DAAS SAUNDEI\..'S de
much more extensive system of Mr. Pitt. But then dared his belief, that no other Member in the horse
it was said, that our increased establishments and would have, ' in such a manner, made such • I ,augmented debt had thrown a considerable addition as the last speaker had. If he had 4 luLs no respect Ice the
into the scale in favour of the Crown. Upon this feelings of the Noble Lord alluded to, surely I ie olio
point, even he was at issue with the Honourable Gen- to have been restrained by
a sense of justice from
... tra
tleman opposite, convinced that he could prove, not- clueing those acqui • tted by the verdict of the • coneite
to which the accusation was referred.
withstanding such addition, thajduring that period tional organ '
the power of the people had more than proportionally Lord ARCHIBA.LD HAMILTON ezpressedh.,s
increased, from the great growthef wealth, of indepen- hostility to the • of sinecure
continuance re places, whic!-4,
deuce, and of information which had been circulated •
instead of being conferred for n •
national services ,
sere
throughout the country. With respect to the reference most frequently the reward for political support.
made to the late expeditionsdie did not see how they Mr. BANKES recommended to the Hon. Meyer,
applied to the present question. It stood upon its own
for the attainment of his own object, to postpone L:
intrinsic merits ; and it was also to be recollected, motion until the Committee of Finance had concluil
that whether such expeditions were successful or not, their appendix.
the expence would have been the same. The Hon.
Mr. Will TBREAD could not prevail on himself to go age.a
Gentleman concluded by expressing his determine- any motion for the. reduction' or abolition of sistecures. '; h '
~,.-
tion to oppose the motion. were a great evil. The Right Honourable Gelato..- an opposite
Mr. LAMBE could not see upon what grounds the (Mr. Perceval) had, what he believed no other VIII could d
utterltit misunderstood his Honourable Friend (Mr. Ward, o,
Chancellor of the Exchequer could assume that his
of the misapplication of sinecure; ;it
Hon. Friend (Mr. Ward) was influenced in his view wouli give one instance
bweafselni
ttbeewcaagenofsbipthenifm.georctainitydesopnn.rt At
b the very sr otmt
of public measures, by the hope of succeeding to place.
For his part, he considered 'these sinecures as a great was bestowed on Lord Liverpool, Cinque
thesnatilnlheadvatocapilt' a.°
for the family of Nelson. Was there ever an occasion vilni‘
detriment. When there existed a claim from any great
sinecured could have been better bestowed than on the desc.e:
national service, such placeswere notvacant, and when antsof that naval ?r (Heartnn bier ! ) The Knew+
vacancies did occur, there being no claim from service, Gentleman itehersM
they were conferred upon persons for no other reasons offices, had sat down with his old)on
we. ob,aadtiaelrs3taknitgu adtoCr 4f
than Ministerial favour. Another great objection to his Honourable Friend (Mr. Creevey.) His Hon. !IFuquaerst4
only grounded his arguments on.a correspondence between t!..
their continuancewas, that they afforded a justification
mire tofHtbone.c*G7on‘tvineniab n
.and Lord Melville,
i to Iliew that the inks.
for mutual reproach in that house, independent of that
as
it
buladcreasetZminhae
r''.:irownnenti.ighttmbakeLo-d
improper spectacle which they held out to the disgust Melville an Earl, atade s
of the country, when it saw men of large private for- Friend put it to the Right Hon. Gentleman, if even he, bad it AC;
already been done, durst have • ,
tunes all drawing revenue from the pockets of the peo- stood up in his place, in the Hs and sinecures to that Nobler
ple. Their abolition he should consider as sttiking at cro move for gran
Right Hon. "G
ars"
that very centre of corruption, which uhdermined and his place; be had no Gentleman
right to so ; sed datheemy *nal wiwsiWnshegdtto get tat'
consumed every thing healthy and vital in the state. out of it. He only was what he was becauseynobvtly else°ses7l:lCg7-.
be what he was—(Crier ofhear ! hear I ) His administration ea;
Nor amongst their mischievous effects was there any like himself. He had asked every body : he had coursed up ald
thing more pernicious than their introduction of a set down the Strand to intake it up.—(Hear ! ) The Hon. and Larne!
of men into that House, who, actuated by no public Secretary on his left (Mr. Secretary Ryder) was only Secretary
principle, converted their support into a species of cause nobody else would. (Hear!) Te oble Lord, the otu it.
cretary, on the end of the Bench, (Lord Palmerston) was
traffic, and though not, perhaps, alWays deciding
ariy,
They
another Noble Lord refused the place
against thz.. public interest, still considered every other ‘lert,.
(Hear
viblineywweretballonwed
ft). sit down to the feast, becaue
object as subservient to their own individual aggran, the en would not conic (lira.,
dizement—(Hear, Hear.) Another great evil was, hear !) The Right Hon.e
Gentlemenrstl boasted of their Merlons;
God help them and their • • G situations,— od help the talent!
their tendency to produce the worst species of far- God
1f He wished them to he displaced, because he did en
tions, composed of men, whose votes though number-
beto sweeeelidmpeoettensecee
intolerance
the highest
b Wars of stater-be.
ed in the day of battle, were' overlooked and forgotten causere
e anbicgeatt crwe--icte
111 ssr"oseuldhe was
aft in the hour for distributing the spoil, and who were, verse to that narrow religious
therefore, determined to extort by duplicity and in- the safety of one-half of the Empire for the maintensuccwoit a
place,—because he would oppose men who opposed retrench.
trigue, what they found themselves unable to ac-
wentquire by servility and prostitution !—He would, afrie
friend
ind to c
every
e corona.
Mightall
t Hon. Gentla as nan said he w
t oft his friend.
for such reasons, give his support to the present mo- ship ; it went only so Theyfar as he was forced. eatldk l-1
tion, if persevered in ; although he recommended to Reversionist in the kingdom, or in existence, who wheogrZtaatirl
have opposed the Reversion Bill, thirst he have tr:Al the strzaph
the Honourable Mover, to wait for the production of of his party on the question! The..e were the moo he wanted
the Appendix, which was so anxiously expected from to get rid of, though he knew of no candidcte for their places.
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the Finance Committee, upon that subject. (Laughter lye,* M Beecher). '1 hepenury o' this
Ad II
Mr. CREEVEY combated the assertion, that the nistration was evident. Even now, so unsuccessful had they a .
ine filling up their ranks, that, in the cemmissio.l for the Board of
influence oithe Crown had not more than propor.
reofensit.r.edutii,,,s.tooino(cl,,to this day,m the name cf a INeb!,_ ...ord who hat
tionally increased since the year 1780. He instanced
Crown!--btu,
Gceont i.dt;:tahn bad called
the pensions granted upon the countervailing duties, himself the Defender he
the CliroZ
and the Scotch pensions, which latter amounted to the case of a Ministry the tool of the Crown—in in ceoyntsemurprtoseei
the Country—!'n defiance of repeated Minorities—in spite of as
460,000. When they also looked to the immense sense of
, the .11e7le, pers'stini to hold the helm of GOVUDDItG4
increase in the revenue ; to ocr great naval and 11.,,
nve
t.cgiirsi:e
evoidiet=Cji.tha.ninArd.rnildtistr ion would be the
military establishments ; to the grent patronage of
.1 influence
HeeiuraeibtklieGCeercteb:
India, could it be justy contended, that the tau- tha could he conceived.--(Heare!).--" he
ence of the Crown was not materially and elm.-
Man insisted at some length on ;he increasing infit,euce of the
IfCr.own, and advised Mr. Falter to withdraw kis metier:, though,
bitantly augmented ? Since Mr. Dunning's propo. ttwwernerserdes socrd,hewould vote for
. it;
. because, howeNerunskil-
sition, it was also to be recollected, the Crown had fully
negatived.
cple that
ib esinweceureeineotnon
received, as Droits of Admin. ty, a sum amount. be abolished should never premature,
be ne
ing to between seven and eight m Ilion', nut of which for the people, nor were they the legal-prerogatiYve of the Crowe,g
and his vote should ever go against them.
not more than two millions had been applied to Mr. FULLER was s;illing to withdraw his motion, upon any
the public service, and 028,000 liven to Sir Home pledge beings given for the discussal au d adoption of the principle
Popham, a Member cf that House. Vas it no accee..
wouldt gly
reply, mettbliaintg had been said of his unskilfulness, but he
sion of influence to have the Bank of England at the the Gentleman with whom he advised was so
able, chat the objector was not worthy of holding the candls to
foot of the Exmutive Governm:by which •
rat,
it was him.
ter.) He did not 'wish to obstruct public business,
upheld in the restriction not to answer the legal de- (Mach kite
but nuoneecoaulddbteb more imidportant than this. This would satisfy
mends upon it? Need he refer to the tauntings which t w. ()our
rnot hteaarrritryemassealves.cahlied a raw,. asi
the King's Ministers had advised to be given to the they somewhere henre weeyre
city of London, in order to disprove the assertion of Gentleman called them • as if they had nothing tog tdollwith fon!
science, but were to look at their colours and vote with their
the Chancellor of the Exchequer ? In the American
psiadrte.
menWasf Cicero
r ahpfartyh man ?—(Laughter.)--Were the Scipio:
war, petitions had been forwarded to the Crown,)—tYnesw,thetywwasere parties to the gra
from many public bodies, and upon all occasions of theiry
country. "Wiauthgreskrpect
Ac-
the manner of receiving, and the answers given, cosntart, a friend of his, could the Hon. Gent. wohoanmadoeLthesce
observations, know his feelings, he would think him already suffe
were becoming and respectful. To what then was cienwt.lybrnished. That Hon. Gentleman had not been permitted
to
the difference, so manifest now, to be attributed ? withdraw, had
nwinshed. The Hon. Mover then consented
—To nothing else but the conscious excessive in- to withdrawit
his b
motion,
wards be taken understanding that it
wuld
after•
fluence of the Crown, which set at nought all con-
Mr. BANKES assured him that he would bring the subject
stitutional interposition of the people. If that in• •
fully before the House on the discussion of Mr. Martin's Re-
fluence was not notorious, and fully felt, would solutions.
the country see, as it now saw, great pensi • ons con- • Mr. FULLER—" When will you be kind enough ?"
ferred upon• public accountants jn the subordinate Mr. BANKES said, Thursday was the day appointed.
After an observation from Mr. THORN TON, Mr. FULLER, and
offices of the Government—upon such men as Lord the Srx.txrit, the potion. wus withdrawn.
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Melville, Mr. Steele, Mr. H. Villiers, and Mr. Hunt. exPearriox TO THE SCHELDT.
(Hear, hear.) To confer public grants • upon such On account of the death of Lady Fitzroy, Lord Castlereagh's
persons was the most improper distribution that could sister, it was agreed to postpone the examination of any fresh
witnesses until the Noble Lord could attend in his place.
possibly be, inasmuch as it weakened a respect in l Lord PALMERSTON brought up the casualti' of the army
public accountants, for the laws which regulated•their aelyrthe Scheidt.—Ordered to lie on the table.
offices, and made the -public obliged to support the employedt-tKERha
;lie paths administered on Courts
very men who had been convicted of'a violation of Martial.—
To lie presented
the :able
their trust. For it was notorious that what with hold- . Lord PALMERSTON presented the Estimate for Army Set-
v.ces, I 810.—Ordered to lie on the table, and be referred to the
ing pensions, and the toleration afforded in cases of .Committee
of Supply on Monday.
The c
defauhers, it made nothing with persons thus circum- f Inquiry
rawnasdathwenbcieobnstsiirtutmed, r feresaiisni
stanced, whether they 'broke the law or not. Even order to receive so
when that House caught some of these Gentlemen ;ro as.d to prodUce on hit former examination. "
Strangers were
then ordered to withdraw,sns usual; and the House finally ed'
tripping, it also found them laughing in its face, and jounced at Half past Nine o'elock.
retiring upon their pensions. (Hear, hear.) He would
ask, whether even now, any man could be found to
move an Address in that House to the Crown, pray-
ing it to grant to Lord Melville one sinecure placeof
se:3ooo,a pension of £2OOO, another sinecure of X2OOO,
(making in all seven thousand pounds a-year), now
received,- as he believed, by that Nobleman, being
ielooq more than had been voted to Lords St. Vin-
cent and Duncan, and to the family of Abercrembiee
'for their great national services. Would any man
move an Address to grant to Mr, Steele a sinecure,
of £I7OQ per annum, and yet by the improper distri-
bution of such offices to public accountants, the
Country was now paying those very sums to the per-
sons he had named. The House was now engaged
in a serious and inquiry, important • • ,it was endeavour-
ing to ascertain the authors of the national calamity
and disgrace ; yet, et the moment Whea it was con-

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Bit ras.—There was no Court of Aldermen held this al.--
The Lord Mayor otdere4 thf price of Bread to be reduced One
Pansy per Peck.

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DIED.
Friday evening, Feb. 9, at his house In Ely-place, sodding'',
aged 37, C. Saunders, Esq. late Demonstrator of Anstral
at St.Thomas's Hospital, and Surgeon to the London In fur
curing diseases in the eye. In him the world has lost a man of Pi'
enee, and the poor a friend. He administered to the Prevend°l_,
and cure of blindness with a humanity, that must for ever 311" e
him live its the reeolleedoe of those who have been benefited by do
application of his post talents. In the treatment of the Dimon
of the Eye he was emitseely eeseestbd; gad his name will be re'
membered by penalty with atindretiao and gratitude, for harlot
ascertained the ante! et OW eight to thituren born blind lira
cataracts. •

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them, he believed, resulted from the
accurate as possible.
The Mils were then read a first time
kco:.d time on Monday next.
siNECIIRE OFFI4
• Mr. FULLER rose to make
on the subject rf Sinecure Office
I.c could hardly do better than c
the words of one of the ablest
rien tl.s country had ever prod
Hale. The substance ofthe obser
were, that there existed a grc
places, the duties of which were
the former of which ought to be a
ter maintained only atthe salary
He particularly enumerated of&
in the Exchequer, such as the
Comptroller of the Pipe, the King
Usher of the ExchAitter, Sic."
part of the passage, it will be rec
a former occasion by Sir S. Ron
continuation, remarked, that it
l.im to add much to the strong
of that great man, Judge Hale.
lemembered, that the fees of tt
paid by the suitors, and the ex
tnormously advanced in conseqt
of the great Alfred, to bring h
lion of justice to every man's
measure defeated. The expence
than it might otherwise be".
f these fees for doing little or
Early felt by the planters in d•
ould hardly realize two per ce
7 hey were called upon to pa•
hich, if paid at all, ought to
in general, and not by the plante
(-1 kw suitors. He had no obje
if the Crown, which necesmil
r regress of national wealth, and
v hich, however, had been the me
« untry from destruction. Th
the power of the crown, but on •
tl•e aristocracy, who provided f
drrn, by means of these places.
at in that House [alluding, per
I ccrs], who, with fortunes he
: bout like so much brick•clust, ft
a hat to do with them, still adopt
ing for their younger children.
for sinecures or places executed
calculated at 4355,000. Out
would be amply sufficient to pa
plates as had some duty attache
• abolition JCSOiI,OOO would be
He would not take away any c
Crown from the most virtuous •
who now possessed it—whose
with the gallantry of Nelson, a
Pitt, had raised this country to
—a King, who, if abandoned i
like the dying Walpole, desire
his face to the wall, that he r
political ingratitude of mankin
moving for leave to bring in a B
and reduce other places to the
paid to the deputies, after the Ii
. sessors. •
Mr. H. THORNTON was
bly disposed towards the object
man, but he rather thought the
postponed till the whole subject
timer shape before the House.
would find a difficulty at presen
ces ought to be abolished, as
cut, d chiefly by deputy, which
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