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London, England, 1829-03-11 00:00:00

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believe. from the birth and fortune of the author, that
he is naturally in favour of Emancipation. It is,
however, only in favour of an Emancipation gradually
effected, and so continued and secured as to prevent the
tosser-pence' which must result from an unrestricted
admission of Roman Catholics to political power. If
these considerations had been weighed by the Roman
Catholics themselves, and still mote by those, if they
were considered, Protestant advocates of their cause in
this House, who had been in some instances the wilh••gi
and in others the unwilling, tools of those instigesers
of treason and sedition—the Catholic demagogues of
Ireland—they would, perhaps, have hesitated • belittle
they contributed to the enlargement of the power and
influence of the Romish Chinch. The Noble Earl
then proceeded to read a passage from the book which
he held in his band; and which stated that the Boman
Catholic religion existed in Ireland under a foreign it..
Bnence—with a body of monks in correspondence siith,
a.feetsago power—with Bishops, in whose election or
approbation the Crown had no controul—with a Cleve,'
who were entirely dependent for support upon the
lower classes of the people, and who•were, therefore,
'likely to adopt every line, of conduct which should be
most agreeable to the inclinations of those by whom
they were to live—a Clergy who vivre perpetbally
terfering in the temporal concerns of the State, ar in
education and politics, and who would, tlserelore, pro.
bably give greater disturbance to the Government in
proportion as their power to disturb it .loold be in-
creased. The author went on to observe that he thought
he only expressed the sentiments ot all Governments in
saying /hat under such circumstances civil liberty in
England would tun atgreat risk if bring destried
if the penal statutes against the Roman Catholics Apollo&
be repealed, without making some sufficient • provision
'against the consequence; that the admission of the lto-
man Catholics to a participation of legielative functions '
in the two Houses of Parliament would be particularly
dangerous, wouldgradually dissolve, and, probably, in"
the end, destroy civil liberty in this ci unity. The Noble-
Earl went in to read another passage to the effect that.
the church of Rome, tliou4h long silent, yet would
again lift up het h• ad ; that she would, on the slightest
opportunity, endeavour at the assertion of absolute
rights; that her-connection with Ireland may at present
appear slight; but that it would very soon and fatty
easily be made much more close and 'firm, and Oar'
unless the measure of Emancipation (it at all rees'ia.y)
should be preceded by ample and powerful securities,
it sould afford the See of Rotnelfl opportunity of again,
and quickly, raising up her head in Ireland ; that after
such Emancipation the Roman Catholic question would
rise up again with more vigour, and with additional
claim& and powers. It may be said that the old °pis
nions attributed to the chute!) of Rome. had been for-
saken by the modern members of that church ; but they`
had never been disclaimed by the authority 'of the
church. The Noble Earl having finishethhe reading of
the extracts, which were heard with great atteetirns, •
Lord KING asked the name oldie author of the Itook•T••
The Earl of WI NCH 11.31tA °Weak, that thd-naudis at tilt •
author was not on the title-page.
The Duke of W ELLINGTON, tram the treasury Bench, said
that the wort was Cada acute in Austria.
The Earl of WINCHILSEA prciceeded. ' flibLord.r-
ship said—l cannot help declaring that, if weiheuld •
search back through alrthe history of our country; vie
ihould find that the conduct of the Noble Duke at the
head of the Government, in respect to thii Bill. leas
,been more arbitrary and dictatorial than was ever es- .
hibited by any former Minister. What is t' mesage
which we have received Irons our aracions'kiveiein ?
That we should take into our deliberate-con-islet:llion
the whole state of Ireland, with a view to redress' Cie '
grievances under-which it laboured. New, I sok, in
what way has the Noble Duke allowed roe Lordships
to consider this subject ? His Majesty's Gas-eminent
have taken the case into their own de:iberste ronsideraa
ciao, and; alter having revolved the whole matter in
their minds, have come dna n to Parliament with a Bill
upon the subject. I shall now only say that, whatever
measures the Noble Duke may ultimately propose.. if •
he thinks that the secrecy, I shall say stratagem:—
(Hear, hear)—by which he has attempted to catty this
measure into effect, and which ate so allowable And ne.
cessary in his military character, if which profession his
Grace is the greatest ornament a Rich this country has
ever priduced—if he attempts to catty "the,e qualities
into the c,oisluct of civil affairs, he wit find tire tort oat'
degree of resistance from the per ple r f this country,
who value their' lives much less than then Itherti• s.—
Two questions have been put to me by a Noble Earl
(Greg). I have been aske.t, whether it was possible to
form a Government upon principles aciverse to those •
entertained by ;the present upon the rneaque? and I
have also been asked, how it would be possible toir ras
cpsillize the country without considering the qiiestion ?
That Noble Earl has been the.advocate of Pa timer- '
tary Reform, and whatever cloUbts I may tt eretote
have entertained with regard to it, I confess that, from '
recent events, they have ent;rely vaisished. For the
Noble Lord's character I entertain the highest respect
be stands to-night almost a solitary example of coiisits
tency, and as such his name will illerninate the [logic& •
British history, whe'n it will appear tenni hed by 'so
many politicians of the present clay, who have adopted '
a line of action 'widely and shamefully 4 fferent. • hits "..
character has shone conspicuously for 111.iniones ~
independence, and Gob grant thit I may be enabled to '.
follow his exsmplel As to Parliamentaiy Reform,. I
beg openly to assure the Noble Earl, that-whenever be
may think it right tobritig forward that measure! shall
give it my cordial and hearty support—(Hein). I was
not formerly prepared to do 1. I tliougatbibat,
long as the representation of. the empite was entrusted .
to honest and independent men, pond,. nouestil, accrued-
to the country. I was then satibfied thdt the iiyitem• •
should remain as it was; but when I•seeVin the bands
of those who ere regardless of resporiiihiaty, .per.ons•
making it a source of expectation, having ruined, their
to:atones. by their vices and their profligacy, then I say '
let a change be effected, and let the eepiesentatiad se .
transferred td the people from those wholave-used it •
unworthily—(llear, hear, hear). The Noble Earl hes •
asked in his second question; what form of Griverntireht
could be established• on principles different from Silt ,
opinions held upon the question by the present.AdMia
, nistration? The-Noble Earl seems to think 'that my
party is so fallen its-character,
in talent, and in honesty,
as that it would Isr impoisige. fo embem Qt it to
fill the. plates (*cupful by the meCrittlitif 0441. ,
Government. I am far.fr.ons thinking, howesera that,•
talent is confined to those who ate guided by a lore-of • •
Popery—(Hear, hear)l-.who countenance lafitlelity.