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'shall make me give a vote contrary!o the I,
the Establishment in the Church and State—(t
Aver).—These, Sir, are Petitions from two bodies
illsdividuals, who are entitled to the utmost :
But when I see three or four Millions of Roman

tholici approaching this House respectfully-
grounding their Prayer upon the justest of
1 must. avow, that I feel compelled to give them
every redress—(Hear, hear).—The motion upon this
' subject, which stands for Monday nett. therefore,
shall have my 'best and strenuous suppiwt,--(Hear,
hear).— And, Sir, whatever may be sitisi•upon one
side or upon the other, one thing at ill events is per-
fectly Year, that public opinion ii decisively in fa-
vour of the Roman Catholics—(Hears 9 hear fines
every part of the Rouse).
11 r. G. WALPOLE, in allusion to an observation
which had fallen from the Honourable Member who,
spoke last but one, remarked, that he was histori-
cally wrong, for that Roman Catholics sat in Parlia-
ment during the reign of Charles L The Petitions
were ordered to Re on the table.
Mr. HEATIICOTE presented e. Petition from the
Clergy of Portsea against the Catholic
Laid-on the Table.
Mr. CRAWLEY presented a similar Petition from
Iloniton.—Laid on the table.
Lord FOLK STONE prestked a similar Petition
from New Sarum. The Noble Lord said. that'while
he perforined his duty in presenting this Petitions, he
must positively declare that his ow* sentiments were
entirely in favour of the just claims-of the•Catholisk
—(ifear,isear).—Laid on the cable.
Lord C. MANNERS presented a iimilar Petition
from Henley.—Laid on the table.
Mr. HUGHES presented a similar Petition from
Wallingford.—Laid on the Table.
Mr. ASTELL presented a similar Petition from
Bridgewater.—He said he fully agreed with the Pe-
.,

on the table.

Colonel BAGWELL rose and said—" Sir, I hold
ia my hand the Petition of the Roman Catholic Body
of the County of Tipperary—a Petition whose mode-
ration, spirit, and reasonable statement, are calcu-
lated, in my humble judgment, to make the deepest
impression on this Honourable House. They repre-
sent, Sir, that experience has now amply proved,
that our Establishments, both in Church and State,
cannot possibly suffer even the shadow of an injury
from the admission of Roman Catholics into offices
of public trust. They state that persons professing
the Catholic Religion do form a great proportion of
the population of Ireland—that at the time when the
measure of the Union between the two Countries
map effected, they were led to entertain the greatest
hopes that they would be immediately admitted to
an equality in Civil Rights with their Protestant
countrymen, and though these hopes have not been
realized, they still expect that the Legislature in its
justice and humanity will at length conclude this
most desirable National measure—(Hear, hear).—
The Petitioners, Sir, express their deep sense of gra-
titude for the late concessions made in their faro*
in the Army and Navy; bat they humbly submit,
that while the Catholic soldier is thus set free, the
Catholic citizen should not remain degraded—
(Heur, hear).—Sir, nothing can be more respectful,
snore temperate, than this Petition. Ldo believe
that nothing can be more just than the claims _they
set forth. Fully convinced that a repeal of enact-
menu in force against Roman Catholics is necessary
to the prosperity, the comfort, and the security of
Ireland, I say, Sir, that I shall give the motion
about to be made my warmest support--(ifear, hear).
The Petition was ordered to be printed.
A similar Petition was presented from the Catho-
lics of the Parish of Newport,—Laid on the table.
Lord MILTON presented a Petition from the
Clergy of the West Riding of York rut the Ca-
tholic Claims.--Ordered to be printe
Lord G. SOMERSET presented a Petition from
the Clergy of Wydicombe, in Gloucestershire, against
the Catholic Claims.—Ordeted to lie on the table.
Lord SEFTON presented a Petition from the
neighbourhood of Liverpool in favour of the Catholic
Claims. The Mlle Lord expressed his sincere con-
currence in the prayer of the Petition.--Ordered to

be printed.
Mr. C. H. HUTCHINSON presente.l a Petition
from the Catholic Inhabitants of the City of London-
derry. Praying a repeal of the Penal Code.—Ordered
to be printed.
Mr. FITZGERALD presented a Petition from the
Lthabitants of Kellarny and Listowel to the same
effect.—Ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. PllOl3l presented a similar Petition from the
Inhabitants of Kilcoole and Newcastle.—Ordered to
lie on the table.

Mr. MELLISH presented a Petition from the
Parish of Edgware, which he stated to he signed by
,persons of all religious deitominations, agamst any
change in the laws affecting their Catholic
fellow-
subjects.—lt was laid on the table.
Mr. PLUNKET presented Petitions from the Ca-
tholic Inhabitants of the Parishes of St. Ana's and
St. Mark's, in the City of Dublin, praying. that their
known loyalty and attachment to the British Coosa-
tution might entitle them to the same privileges and
immunities as their Protestant fellow-subjects enjoy.
These Petitions, he said, contained the names of 1500
individuals, whose respectability he knew, and whose
loyalty, he could assert with confidence, was not to
be exceeded by that of the same number of British
subjects in any.gart of the empire.--(Hear, hear.)—
Ordered to lie on the table.
The Right Hon. Member then presented two Peti-
tions to the same effect, one. from the Catholics of
the County of Fermanagh, containing 3,000 signa-
tures, and the other from the Catholics of the County,
of Monaghan. The latter, be said, he had only re-
vived a short time before, but he had not the least
'doubt that the persons who had signed it were highly.
respectable, and it was needless for him to state that
he was decidedly in favour of the just claims which
the Catholic Body again •stibmiued to the Legisla-
tor.—Ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. W. PARNELL said, he held in ,bis hand a
Petition in favour o(the Catholic Claims from the Pio-
tescants of Monaghan. The persons who had signed
the Petition were sqrc Ity in number, and their, sta-
tion in life was irery respectable. • They weir above
the rank of middle men, though they clid not rise to
an %quality with persons of the first opulence iu the
.Monagban, though perhaps the most Pro-
ttstAt county in Ireland, still has! less, religion in it.
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such art .pas now presented, was to be submitted to
the House; but he denied that it spoke the sentiments
of 'the respectable Protestants of Monaghan, whose
names, to the number of 3000, were subscribed to a
petition for the very contrary object, that of praying
that no further- concessions might be made to the
Roman Catholics. In fact, from the character of the
Petition before the House, he was only surprised
how any Honourable Member could have the audit-
& to present it.—(Order, order.>
. W. PARNELL did not know the criterion by
wl.ich the Honourable Member formed an estimate
of respectability ; but he (Mr. Parnell) could say,
that the four names which appeared at the head of
the petition might well speak for its general charac-
ter, as they were the names of four Presbyterian
Clergymen, a class not inferior to any in the world
for purity of morals and liberality of principle. The
Presbyterian Clergy were the only body in. Ireland
who were unbought by Government, which was ra-
ther a rare occurrence —(Naafi, hear, hoer).-.-And
estimating respectability not by numbers, but by char'
teeter, he could place the 70 names in his Petition;
against the 5,000 names in the Petition of !the Ho-
nourable Member; besides, it ought to be considered
that the numerical strength of the County, even .if
*favour of the Catholics, could not be taken,. as no
aggregate meeting was 'allowed to be held there, un-
less under the immediate sanctions ef the Government.
The same Mauasa moved, that the petition should
not be received till he had an opportunity of making
further inquiries respecting it; but the motion not being
seconded, the petition was ordered to lie on the table.
- Mr. CANNING presented a petition from the mer-
chants and other inhabitants of Liverpool, against any
further extension of civil privileges to the Roman Ca-
tholics. The Right Von. Member said, that though al-
ways solicitous to act sd far as he consistently could in
unison with the views of his constituents, still he must
dissent from the prayer of this petition, and was de-
termined to exercise his uncentrouled judgment upon
the important question to which it referred.
General GASCOYNE said, he should always give
his strenuous support to the object of the petition.
Ordered to lie on the table.

Lord EBRINGTON presented a petition from the
Protestants of the county of Devon, in favour of the
Catholic Claims.—Ordered to lie on the table. ._
.

The Marquis of TAVISTOCK presented a Peti-
tion from the Catholics of the County of Bedford,
praying for relief.—Laid on the table.
Lord BECTIVE presented a similar one from the
Catholics of the County of Cavan.—Laid on the table.

ILLICIT DIIITILLATIOF II

Sir J. STEWART presented a Petition from the
neighbourhood of Strabane, is the County of Ty-
rone, for a. repeal of the laws authorizing fines., on
Townlands for Illicit Distillation. •

General HART presented a Petition from a per-
son of the name of M'Coneleugh, in the County
of Donegal, who stated, that Rome time back • his
father, a farmer in that County, h: d been fined in a
certain sum, in consequence of tt e detection of a
private Still in his neighbourhood, and that being
unable to pay the fine, he was takca into custody by
the Excise Officer, at the moment when he was la-
booting under a dropsy, conducted by a circuit of
nearly fifty miles to the Gaol of Lisburne, in a dis-
tant County, where the unfortunate man expired-t--
(Hear, fiear).—The Excise Otlicer had offered to
discharge him if he paid six Founds, but the.man
was unable to pay it. The case was brought befoie
the Grand Jury of the County of Donegal, who in-
'quired into the circumstances of it, and afterwards
transmitted it to the Bdard of Excise fn
The Board returned no ansv, er. Under these cir-
cumstances, the Petitioner prayed for such redress
as the House, in its wisdom, might think proper
to extend.

Eart MOUNTCHARLES corroborated the state-
ment of the Petitioner, so far as regarded the part
which the Grand Jury, of which he was Foreman,
had taken in this affair. He expressed a hope, that
the House....wodd institute an immediate inquiry
into the subject, and visit the delinquents with its
amplest justice—(Hear, hear).
The Petitions were laid on the table.
Mr.W. STEWART presented a Petition from the
Clergy, Gentry, and, Freeholders of the County of
Tyrone, for a repeal of the Acts authorising Still
Fines.—. Ordered to be printed. The Hon. Member
alluded in strong language to the great hardships
which the inhabitants of Ireland suffered from the
operation of these fines, and observed that he had a
Petition of one William Sharpe, who had been im-
prisoned by an Excise Officer for an alleged offence,
oc which he had been acquitted by a Jury of his
country.

SCOTCH LAWS.
Mr. BOSWELL postponed his Motion on the
subject of Scotch Statutes to Wednesday.

SAPS BE2D.
Lord MILTON presented a Petition from the Ma-
nufacturers of Leeds, for a repeal of the Duties on
the importation of Rape Seed. He said, the Peti-
tioners understood that it had bees in the contepi-
.plation of Ministers to repeal these duties long since,
and they expressed a hope that that expectation
would now be fulfilled. He gave notice, that he
would at as early period move for leave to bring in
a Bill for the repeal of those duties, if it appeared
that Ministers did not intend to make his interference

,seres. unnecessary.
Sir C. BURRELL made a few observations in
oyposition to the contemplated measure.
,Lord LASCELLES was of opinion that not only
the mautifacturing interest, but also that of the Agri-
OtValists would be injured by the proposed mea-
as they could not cultivate their land without
rape dust.
• Mr. CURWEN thought on the contrary, that the'
repeal would 14 afflestanatesial teseiee to the Agri-
.culturalists. aq • ).', -3. • , 1
Lord MILTON; ighitod- IsinssaK when the Billl
was brought in, to de. sla in his !Wye* 6. get I
duty.repealed, as nothing couldhe more injurioue
the manufactures of the country, than to I

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Petition was
lie on the table.
)10TORS' ACT. _

Mr, ASTELL presented a Petition from Bridge-
water, for an alteration in the Insolvent Debtors Act.
Referred to the Committee.

PETITION OF KR. ctiAnr.its PITT.
Lord MILTON presented a Petition from a Mr.
Charles Pitt, of Westminster, complaining of par-
tiality and miscondtict on the part of the Returning
Officer at the Election for the Borough of CameHord,
when he (Mr. Pitt) was about to offer .himself .as a
Candidate for the representation of that Borough ;
and praying the House to take the circumstance,: of
the case into its favourable consideration.—The Pe-

tition being read,
The SPEAKER said, that a Petitioner complain-
ing of an undue election, must be himself a voter or
a candidate ; otherwise, according to Act of Parlia-
ment, his Petition could not he received; and though
he had no doubt that the present Petitioner might
have stood in the character of a Candidate, still that
the intention of offering himself was all that was es--
pressed ; and that, too, not in the body of the Pen-
oon, but within interlineations, which necessarily
bird dered the petition itself inforinal, and. as suOh

,4 not, in Ilis opinion, be received.
A desultory conversation then took place on the
point of Order, in which Mr. W. DUNDAS, Mr.
Tlialikt, Sir J:GRANAIII, Lord_ Mivroptt Mr. CAN-
NING, and Mr. Csioicza, tot,k a part, 'and the Petition
was withdrawn, with- an ulderstaniing that one
more correctly framed midst be presented within a
convenient time, •

LICENSING SYSTEM:
Mr. G. LAMB presented a Petition from a certain
individual, an inhabitant of the parish of Clerken-
well, against the Licensing System. The Petitioner
complained of injuries done him by the Magistrates,
who had deprived him of his license without any just•
cause, though h' had raid £lOOO for his house and
premises.—Read, and ordered to lie on the table.
QUALIFICATION OF MEMBERS BILL.
Mr. MILDMAY presented a Petition from the
In-
habitants of Manchester; against the Qualification of
Members' Bill.—Ordered to lie on the table.

than any othet—factionAingl not este religion eye- tax upon the raw material.
safety of rating.in the minds of the greater part ofh these _mach used as a substitute for
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bodies of claim ty Aexclusive loyalty.—(ffier, bear.) It w;s, GfeenAand Fishery, it was ye
t respect. iteregit, with peculiar pleasure that he presented loth substitute should be pi
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illy, and T Auarter, to the spirit a factious into- purposes to which it was appl
grounds, leranie, 4rhtch too generally prevailed in the county. then read, and ordered to lie i
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