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terrally inconveoiencethe progieis of public business?—
(Hear, hear). If any Hop. Membee_was of opinion that
it would, be was at liberty to Titio-oe the House " whe-
ther the Hen. Member be heard upon that point ?"
Sir JOSEPH YORKE was of opinion, that the Hon.
Member was pursuing a perfectly proper line of argu-
ment. The manifest object if the argument was, to
shew thot the Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) should not
be induced to set aside or postpone an exertion to pro-
cure a repeal of the Test and C •rpotation Acts, because
certain Hon. Gentlemen were inclined to oppose it, or
becattte others had abandoned their siippcirt of it. It
waspeifectly consistent with this object to shew that
some Hon. Members had abandoned or suspended their
judgment and opinions upon the Catholic Qtiestion, upon
Re'orm. upon Finance, and other subjects.
Mr. JONES—The Hon. Member for Abingdon (Mt
Moberly) declared that he would be satisfied with a,
Committee next year, and I do say--
The SPEAKER wished again to put it to the Hon.
Member, whether it was expedient to pursue a course
of observation, which, though it were not his intention,
would certainly have the effect of leading to a discus-
sion which was not connected with the object of the
Petitioners, and which would necessarily retard the
progress of public business.
Mr. JONES male a few remarks to the effect of ex-
pressing his submission to the Speaker's opinion, and
concluded by moving that the Petition be brought up.
On the bringing up of the Petition, Sir G. Roa*asoa and Mr.
rose at the same dine. The latter. Gentleman gave Wig
to the Honourable Baronet.
Sir U. ROBINSON—The Hon. Member (Mr. Jones)
has said, that I said the majority of Dissenters were be'
vourable to the claims of the Roman Catholics. rcil
that observation I reply, I did not—(the Hon. Barosel
repeated emphatically—" I did not"). What I said,
was, that the majority of the Dissenters whose senti-I,
meats I had the honour to represent were favourable to
their claims. Every one who did me the honour of at-
tending to what I said, knows that I did not utter the
sentiment attributed to tie by the Hon. Member (Mr.
Jones); and the House may judge,. from the specimen
of accuracy afforded by the Hon. Gentleman in not.
fairly representing what had been said only two minutes
ago, the degree of credit that is due to the rest of his
asset tions—( Loud Cheers).
Mr. MABERLY trusted that as he had been alluded
to. the House would do him the justice to allow him to
say that he had not altered his opinion upon the subject
referred to by the Hon. Member. He was ready Dow,
as he bad always been, to vote for Reform—tor the
repeal of the Test Act, and for other measures of ge-
send polity relet red to by the Hon. Member. With
respect to Fmancer-
The SPEAKER here, without saying anything, shook
his head with an amicable intimation that the Hon.
Member was not in order, and Mr. Moberly resumed
his seat. The Hon. Member, however, immediately
rose again, and said with much warmth, " Then, as 1
am not allowed by die rules of the House to allude far-
ther to the subject, I will only say, that the statement
which the Hon. Member has made respecting my con-
duct on the subject of finance, be has made most im-
properly"—
Mr. M. FITZGERALD said, that the Hon. Member
(Mr. Jones), in the allusion that he had made to his
conduit, had m •de a gross mistake. In alluding to his
poso.onement of a motion of which he had given notice,
the Hon. Member attributed to him (Mr. Fitzgerald) the
expression, on the Catholic debate—
The SPEAKER—The Right Hon. Gentleman must
surely perceive, that, in making further remarks upon
this subject, he is necessarily provoking a discussion
which the House is anxious to stop—(Hear, hear).
Mr. M. FITZGERALD said, that he had only one
remark to make; it was this .—That so far from utter-
ing the expression attributed to him by the lion. Member
on the debate on the Catholic Question, be had not
spoken at all, or taken any part in that debate.
Mr. JONES, on moving th it the Petition be printed,
expressed his surprise that the Ho:.. Baronet (Sir G.
Robinson) had remarked on what fell from him in the
manner in which he had done. He was at a loss to know
why the Hon. Baronet had done so.
Sir G. ROBINSON—Because it was not true. •
The SPEAKER, after the interval of a lew minutes,
anxiously bespoke the attention of the House to a trans-
action that had just occurred. The Right Honourable
Gentleman spoke to the following effect Now that'
ti.e House has recovered from the very disorderly state
into which it was thrown a little time ago, I am anxious
to call its attention to a subject which, if not explained,
may convey painful feelings and sensations to the mind
of an Honourable Member, although I hope there was
no intention that suc't feelings should be conveyed to it.
The expression of an Honourable Member, that ' a con.
tradiction given to him should be answered elsewhere,
which caught my ear, though it may not have been
heard by any other Honourable Gentleman, was an ex-
pression which was used in reply to what fell, perhaps
involuntarily at the moment, from an Honourable Ba-
ronet, and which was used, I am sure, without any in-
tention of wounding use feelings of the Honourable
Member. When the Honourable Baronet contradicted
the Honourable Gentleman, I am satisfied he only im-
puted to the Honourable Member a misapprehension of
his meaning, and bad no intention of offering personal
offence to the Honourable Member." The Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman concluded by calling upon Sir G.
Robinson-,(Loud cries of Hear, hear.)
Sir G. ROBINSON.—I bow to the Chair. What I
meant was, that the Honourable Gentleman had mis-
conceived my meaning. If I expressed myself too
strongly, I am scary for it—(Cheers.)
Mr. JONES expressed himself satisfied with the ex-
planation of the Hon. Baronet, and thus the affair ended.
The Petition was ordered to be pointed.
Petitions for the Repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts were
then presented by Lord Stanley, from the Dissenters of Hunting-
' don and Kimbolton ; by Mr. Wilbraham, from the Unitarians of
Donnington and Nantwich, in Chester; by Mr. Mandy, from the
• Dissenters of Duffield, in Derbyshire; by Mr. Lyttleton' from
Dudley, in Worcestershire; from Stalbridge and from the Seaford
Potteries; by-Lord Ebrington, from the Wesleyan Methodists of
Cobuntpton, in Devon; by Lord Graves, fro= the Dissenters of
Kilbourne Port; by Mr. Marshall, from the Dissenters of Hali-
fax, Bradford, and Wortley; by Sir Rowland Hill, from the Dis-
senters of Mill-street, in Sisropshire • by Mr. Coke, from the Dia.
*enters of Wells; by Lord Francis Osborne, from the Dissenters of
Cottingham, and other places iu Cambridge ' • by 11r. Capri, from
Queenbotough, iD Kent; by Mr. Sykiss, from an Independent
Congregation in Hull; by Mr. Egerton, from the Moaners to
nip, and M‘cclesfield; by Colonel Daiirkins, Irons the
Dissenters of ffinougbbridge ; by Sir C. Cole, from the Di,o,tuti
ssf Ilridgend, in•Olouc.st.r, and Swansea, in Glantorganshire; by

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whether e CoUrIWA. bsstitrations which the I
Memb a'' might not be m/de applic,
to the object o the Petition? Another question
would ar se, namely, whether these observations I
not in a ise so obviously devious from the decli
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object ¶ft Petition, that to pursue theirs would ,
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