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they entered into, such speculations ' The cost :rt. yyx., •
tenon Biidfie was estimated at 4400 004. and it cost
1.200 oqol. The cost .•t South' it k ii/i gc Win esti.
mated at 360 0001. 4ini' it vitt Ice 0004.
After a few words from Mr C. N. Paitmaints• viiiich weiseliese '
were to the effect that the Siff was not ha be. lickseveved hiotia• ..
Petition ww ordered to he on the table. ' •
On the motion of Mr. Livvi.rnoa. the Order of Friday last, ,H-si
a Conference with the illon.e of Lords, was ditehatgid. • '
Mr. Ald omen T 110 M I'SON pre.en:ed a, Petit fun' from cestakr•
Merchants 4n.! Traders of the City of London, agaimq a chuieja.l
'the London Docks Acts Consolid ition Bilk The olataw complained
al
of gave a new power of monopoly to the i ondon 'Dock Company
and would compel Merchants and Trader. to pay a sum of a
without receiving any consideration. The London Dock Comp
had undoubtedly done much good, but the power now sought (W M,
was granted to no other similar Company.—lle Petition wastr,et
1:
dered to be printed.
ROMAN CATHOLIC CLAW%

The. following Petition* reapecttng the Roman Catholic Mimi'
were presented;
Against the Claims—By Colonel Cost, front the Protestant
habitants of two places in the Coanty of Mayo; by Mr. Monas,...
from the Corporation of Barbers and Surgeons, Dublin ; one plate
in Queen's County; and foot places in the County of Down ; by
Colonel Omissive's, from certain iohabitants of Cork, praying a'
for the suppression of the Catholic Association; by Mr. Cain.
mutiny, from the Archdeacon of Notthatiwton, and the Clergy of
the Diocese of Peterborough ; by Mr. Din:coma. from Leeds,
front the Clergy of York, and from Wetherby ; by ‘tr. H. Mai. •
arat.L, &Mt' Lurgan, and five other places in the County of Cab*
by General Kim, from seven places in the County ••1 Sligo; by •
Slr.•Haricoex, from the Proteseant Inhabitants of -Athlone; by
Colonel Itocnrosto, from the Protestant Inhabitants ol Kintree,le
the County of Westmeath; by General O'bian., from the County
of Antrim, Port Malone, and the Perish of Antrim; by Sir ).
Cornett., from the Clergy of the Diocese of Hereford; by Mr.
&natty, front the Protestant Div-enters of Monaghan, and•tero
other places in the County of Monaghan.
In favour of the Claims—By :In G. Rosttnow, from
Inhabitants of Northampton and its vicinity. The Petitionti
• also in favour of entire relitiolis liberty ; by Lord Foam, f
the Roman Catholic Inhabitants of twelve places in the County f •
Tipperary ; by t.olonel Warr; from the Roman Catholic Inhatts
tants of St. Mary's, Dublin, and tour other i•arishes in the Coil*
of Dublin ; by Lord Utmost, trim the Roman Catholic Itt6alti.
rants of Northampton; by Colonel HANSARD, front the liontat
Catholic Inhabitants of Mayhem. in th • King's County ; by LO IS
*Aimee from the Roman Catholic Inhabit:dos of a place in Lan-
cashire; by Mr. Easatort, front the Roman Catholic Inhabitanti
of Stockport; by Lord Oxmarettwo, front the Roman Catholic
Inhabitants Of Clare, and two other places in the King's• County ;
by Mr. STANLIT, from the Roman Catholic Inhabitants of Lin-
caster, and a place near it ; and by N! r. linowra.ow, from the Ibb
man *Catholic Inhabitants of two Parishes in the County of Per.
managh, and of Ste Parishes in the County of Tyrone.
The Petitions were.severally ordered to be printed.
Mr. DUNCOMBE (Yorkshire), on resenting the Petitioot
from Leeds, remarked that it was tuned by between 3,000. and
4,000 persons.
Mr. MARSHALL denied that this Petition expressed the nyl.
niona of the people of Leeds, and read a letter, in which it was
asserted that the Petition was gut up at a close Meeting, without
the participation of the inhabitants.
Mr. DUNCOMBE said be had received a letter from the
Chairman of the Meeting, at which the Petition was agreed to.
and that letter confidently informed him, that the signatures were
ntl legally obtained, and were entirely unobjectionable.
Lord M I LTON said that his Hon. Colleague appeared to by
stress upon the number of signatures affixed to the Petition. Neer
some years ago a similar Petition from Leeds was signed by HMOS
p persons, and therefore he thought it was clear that the feeling of
the inhabkants of Leeds had undergone a material change in ft.
your of the concessions to the Catholics—(Hear, hear).
Mr."DUNCOM BE (of Yorkshire) said that the signatures tO
the Petition, nearly 4,000 in number. had been obtained in the
course of six days—(Hear):—Artil his Noble Colleague was wrong
in supposing, from difference in the numbtr of the signatures af-
fixed to the two Penning, that the public opinion of Leeds had
become at all more favourable to the Catholic cidirot then it ma,
The Petition had been • forwarded to London with a view litin
being presented before the discussion came on, and bad there
more time, the signatures Would have been far More numerous dos
they were—(Hear, bear).

The Marquis of CH AN DOS Wished to learn from the Holman.
able Baronet opposite (Sir Francis Burden) whether It was his
intention to postpone Wining forward the motion respecting the
Roman Catholic Claims, of which he had given notice, and if it
was, the Honourable Baronet's reasons for the postponement? The
delay of the discussion would be extremely inconvenient to many
Honourable Members.
. Sir F. BUItDETT said, that it was not from the want of a
feeling of courtesy that he could not answer fully the question of
the Noble Lord. Among, a multitude of reasons why he shoal!
defer bringing forward the motion of which he had given notice on
the day then fixed, was diet alluded to by the Noble Lord. lie
begged to state, that he should positively bring forward the motion
on the eth of May.

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• Mr. WIGPRAHA M presented a Petition front Stdekbridri
against the Friendly Societies Referred to the Conunittes
:on the Bill.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented a Petition froin the Friendly
Society held at the Victory, Gravesend, Against the Friendly So.
' cieties' Bill.
11fr: BRIGHT was sorry that so strong a feeling Antal ban
' been excited against the measure. He was strongly of opinion
that the Bill, as revised and amended by the Committee, would
he, if not entirely free from objection, still of a very beneficial
nature.

Air. COURTENAY said be hoped to be able to present the
Report of the Committee in about a week, when he believed Oa'
such alterations would be found to have been made as would
move most of the objections. In consequence, however, of o
alarm which existed, it-was not his intention to press the measure
this Seso.lon.

Mr. IROBHOUSE was happy to bear that declaration from the
Hon. Member, and he was sure it would be hailed with satisfaction
by every Friendly Society in the country.
Lord A LTHOR P presented similar Petitions front the Soy?.
reign, and United Brothers, Friendly Societies, in the county
Northampton.
Sir It. W I LSON presented a similar Petition from the Friendly,
Society held at the Sword and Buckler, Bermondsey.
Mr. BERNA L presented a similar Petition front a Friendly
Society, held at the Bticklayers' Arms, Duke-street, Grosvenor-
square.
The Petitions were severally referred to the Committee on tbe
Bill.

Mr. R. COLBORNE brought op the Report of theComniiitte
appointed to try the merits of the Election for the County of Wen.
meath. Ale Committee teported that Hugh Morgan was dell
elected, and that the Petitions from the other parties were not fri-
volous or vexatious.
Mr. AIOOKE presented a Petition from certain Attomils ?DJ
Solicitors of publin against the Crown Solicitors Bill.
Captain MAITLAN U presented a Petition frcm Lamming&
against the Importation of Foreign Grain.
Mr. CHAPLIN presented similar Petitions front !brawn
and anotWer place in Linchltishire.
Lord JOHN HAY presented a Petition from Paddington,
against any alteration in the. Corn Lavrs,—Ordered to be printed.
Sir ED WARD.KN ATpUBI.ILL presented a Petition front
Hytbe, in the county of Kent, against the proposed Resolutions '
specting the Corn Laws.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. A. CAMPBELL presented Petitions from the Lord Pro'
you and Magistrates of Cilavgasea, andmfrom Paisley, in favour of the
Scotch Marriage Settlement 13411” ' •
On the motion of the Hoa. Mamas% 5l Hors was added'
the Committee on the Bill.
' A Message from the Lords requested the attendance of the Clerk
of the Penryn Election Conuiduzein 11127, with the Poll-book.'
Ordered.
The Sheriff of Aliddleses aed Lundell appeared at. the Bar at
House of Commons, and preseqte4 a Petition front the Corpora-
tion of the City of London, praying, for a partial Repeal ol.She
Stanip Duty Act.
Mr. Aldetman WOOD and Mr.:` Aldersufaii• WAMINNW
supported the prayer of • tie 'Peritioea • •
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Was not le be. Vekeescred in,'`the • lnure
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non. the Order of Fridley last, rs. •
Lords. was ditchatgid. • • As a n
N pre.ented a• Per it ion' from eertaite. esi, Ai
City of London, again.t a Clause in' ow, ant'
itjosi Bilk The elatase complained
'coition
sly to the I ondon Dock Company
ut Trader. to pay a sum of mobei Lord
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Mon. Tbe London Dock Compaq ' irfn of
veld, but the power now sought tee ..ould
tr Company.—The Petitleaufaktif.",:; cent&
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room ITZKIMI. • 4 hey me
peettog the Roman Catholic ciaN;i, • 00l
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4t4 gantry
onel Cost, from the Protestant lea. Lath'
County of Mayo; by Mr. :loons,. by pie
ra and Surgeons, Dublin ; one plate • '-
places in the County of Down; by tull.
aia inhabitants of Cork, praying a' 06114 •
atholic Association; by Mr. Caiir. oilf via
;oftiNorsithra. rilitt,ownen,manne.d tthretne Cleuttrgy of yet
iple e;
from Wetherby ; by sir. H. %Isl. •
;thee place. in the County of eatiii; • • reduce
I places in the County -1 Sligo; by rotecte
regent Inhabitants of -Athlone; by eep.
Protestant I nhabitants ot Kilitree, in
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y General O'Neet., from the County
tthh:e ParivahDiocese of AHnetrr
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t Dissenters of :Monaghan, and.tetto .• Mr. F
Monaghan. Sir Al
.By Nl' G. ROZINSON, from certain
and its vicinity. The Petition w tc Pei
libetty ;by Lord Fonan, trod . ItUri,6l
us of twelve places in the County of Ituritt
a, from the Roman Catholic Inhahl. the c
lid tour other l•arished in the County
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r, from the Human Catholic Ithattl.
olorael liannann, front the itothan ,
MI, in fh • King's County ; by Gird e cant
itholic Inhabit:tilts of a place in Lan.
sm th.• Roman Catholic Inhabitants „' „an,
tansewe, from the Roman Catholic
other places in the King's• County; ' tlyV r
tomatt Catholic Inhabitants of L. t'
ad by !t r. linowra.ow, from the Its. .-• Ir. I
two Parishes in the County of Fir. MMil
in the County of Tyrone.
ly ordered to be printed. Sir G
kshire), on presenting the Petitioe' . fall
t wts stifled by between 3,000. and •s at in
I that this Petition expressed die opi. emsel
s, and read a letter, in which it was
et':3t
s got up at a close Meeting, without
irnts.• ts,
be had received a letter from the aced i
it which the Petition was agreed to, otectii
formed him, that the signatures were •
entirely unobjectionable. y not
his Hon. Colleague appeared to by ere nil
;natures affixed to the Petition. Noir lest.
aeon from Leeds was signed by 10,e00 reign t
ought it was clear that the feeling of t
itl undergone a material change in fa. Mr. I
: Catholics—(Hear, hear). • d the
Vorksbire) said that the signatures b 3 t at the
1 number. had been obtained in the ;mite
-And his Noble Colleague was wrong n hel
in the number of the signatures af.
hat the public opinion of Leeds had at Ho
e to the Catholic Clditns than it was uld at
warded to London with a slew tO
U 11340111 came on. and bad there bees .4-t__•
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luld have been far more intmerous thus.•
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OS Wished to learn from the Honour. d long
Francis Burdett) whether It was his nce to
ng forward the motion respecting the to man
which he had given notice, and if it ut then
t's reasons for the postponement? The
I be extremely inconvenient to many 6 of
eked fo
that it was not from the want of a Mr.
eould not answer fully the question of Como
t multitude of reasons why he shoal
lotion of which he had given notice on elation
t alluded to by the Noble Lord. lie uch h.
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Jon, engaged ;nth* Wool Trade, agrkirt the imposition
of a Tax on Foreign Wool. 'The petitioners expressed
their willingness to, bear their full proportion of the
burdens OrS.ntiyi but they submitted that the
imposkiwi. pf -such tax would, prove ruinous to the
mawa4artoeing.and commorcial.inverests of the.country.
t., fore :eirinegsttl eifteited his Majesty's Go-
nliY sanction horn the injurious
verieti
impeongn,wif birch it PS*,
THOMPSON supported the prayer
of. tnt-trieirV.- 'At- resent we were-unable to carry,
on O W. 0.64" In.ths Oontipeittal markets, with Silesia
and with. the Neiherland:;:.bot the effect of such a tax
malt proposed would-bee.to destroy the competition
nanchire' hid hirtletto • kept up, and to transfer our
infeigu.w4lepjfide into the hands of Continental
Ti•LBTEIBRIDGE thought the proposed tax
go, a neceisary.prOtectiOn due to the agricultural inlet-
mi. At present the price of British wool was ruinously
kw,and cheaply way to raise that price was by the im-
rition of a duty.
Lord MILTON said, be did not think the proposi-
tion of the flithoorable Baronet,-if .carried into effect,
wood leider. the, article More saleable. He hoped
Members weald give some intimation as to the course
they wont to pursue. To renew the tax upon foreign
wool would be to take a step towards re-barbarising the
country. ,If the object of the Honourable Baronet (Sir
1. Lethbridge) was: not to increase the prite of wool,
why propose an addition to the duty ? It appeared to
:aim that they were proceeding directly in the wrong
course. . The Honourable Baronet contended that as
corn was protected, wool also should be protected—
(Hear). It would be just as proper to extend the prin-
ciple to butter, eggs, and other articles- of agricultural
produce. The poor cottager had as good a right to he
protected in his eggs, as the owner of a flock of 2,600
sheep. The question for the loose was, whether they
would continue to act upon the commercial policy of
the list seven years, or return to a system of prohibition
land drawbacks?
/41r. PIEIICE supported the Petition.

Sir M. W. RIDLEY said, that if the present system,
were persevered in, it must end in the ruin of the agri..l
culiurists.. The question was not confined to the Isgrt4
cultutists; it was connected with the general interests'
of the country. If the import of the raw material
increased while that of the manufactured article demi:
naked, it was quite clear that it must be injurious to
the country generally. The average import of wool
for some time back was seven millions of pounds
annually. From 1824 to 1825 there was an excess of
twelve million pounds over the quantity exported, and
he believed there was a corresponding increase this
yeir. He thotight there was a sufficient ground for a
Committee to inquire into the subject.
Sir G. PHILIPPS said, it would appear from what
had fallen from his Honourable Friend-who spoke last,
that in point of fact, the population of this country
themselves were the consumers of the foreign wool im-
ported, and he now proposed to increase the price of
the manufactured article upon them. The agricultu-
rists, when they felt, or thought they felt themselves
placed in difficulties, never proposed any remedy but a
protecting duty. They were protected in corn, and
they now sought protection in wool. He thought they
were mistaken in the view they took of their own in-
terestv-He felt confident that an additional duty on
foreign wool would be most injurious to them.
Mr. HEATHCOTE said, the Noble Lord (Milton),
and the Hon. Member who spoke last, seemed to think
that they (the Landed Interest) did cot know how to
manage their own concerns. The same language had
been held with respect to eeery measure introduced in
that House injurious to the Agricultural Interest. He
could assure the Noble Lord, however,- that they knew
how to take care of themselves. Why not protect other
articles; sad the Noble Lord? Because no other article
had fallen so low as certain kinds of wool, similar in
naality to the Scotch. He hoped the growers of short
and long wool would unite, and not permit any diffe-
rence to injure the interests of both. The interests of
tie manufacturers, he admitted, should be attended to,
but then let a fair balance be struck between the kite•
resit of both manufacturers and producers. They only
asked for a COmmittie to inquire into the subject.
Mr. P. THOMSON hoped Ministers would not grant
a Committee. It most do mischief. The very appre-
hension of a change in the present law bad already done
much harm, It was the duty of that House to take
charge of the interests of the consumers, not of either
the agriculturists or manufacturers. The producers of
wool in this country were benefited by the introduction
of the foreign article, fur by the mixture of the latter
the manufacturers were enabled to use a much larger
portion cf the former than they could others. He
doubted very much whether it could be made out that
the exportation of the manufactured article had oot in-
creased. From January 1827, to January 1828, the
erpoitation to Germany was one million sterling. This
could not be the case if the raw material of that country
awe excluded.
Sir C. BURRELL said, the interests of the agricul-
"fon ought to be attended to, but not to the exclusion
of all others. He thought this subject ought to be in-
iluiteti into. He trusted the growers of long and short
wool would unite in their efforts; not wialaingat the
sms time that the Manufacturers should.be injured.—
"he agriculturists proved that they felt no hostility to
he manufacturers, for they readily came to their relief
'hen they sere starving. Their hostility was directed
rhan the foreign farmer, not the British manufacturer.
.ileia this country they were taking off the duties,
I'Se•lmPtriedit duty df 321. or SSI. per cent. on Eng-
lish wool.
Mr C. GRANT said, as appeals had been made to
tassovernment in the course of the discussion, and
11411 es expressed by Hon. Gentlemen to be informed
‘shst the inientions.of Government were upon this sub-
jectrlie-riould assure those Hon. Gentlemen that it was
llclt out of any disrespect for them, or out of indifference
tolGimpOttiqr:a question, that he shotild abstain at
r_eseutlfwwentering upon any of the topics which had
wetu.a
_touched upon. There was a notice fixed for Mon.
131 "at, on the general question, and he thought it
oilier to abstain born offering any opinion until that
!Notion came before the House. At present, however.
as fully prepared to 'aster into it, and he thought
Mould fully vindicate Government from the tenet-
11% which had been thrown out upon the subject.
C. WARD said, the Petitioners were opposed to the
aPP4tment of a Committee. They thought much
1614tihic tefw had been done fdrryser" ,X,..ommittee. In
of the Petitioners that adjustment which the
agriculturists now sought 'for had already taken place.
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE contended that wool ought
is Se Inotected, as well. as corn. The same principle
aP._P6e d 10 •.b;4 no, wish to barbarize the
; and he would tell- the Ntible Lord (Milton)
.; tilOtost effectual way so barbarize it would be to
, • - . _ •
")1 Itt igreukuri;.44flassitralig.N=Wliat they
cnr,kikte .
f . d ism a due protection, to place dam oa
a ,00tin
Vtab Le foreign producer. Otherwise...et 'was
Pc'ssbk that wool. could taajiY•

IThe export esr vioil had been promised to them as a
boon, but it turned out n() such thing. Sixty million
pounds of wool-had been iMpccated within the last three
years and a half, whilethe moll of British Wool was
only 400,000 pounds. The hope of an equivalent, held
out to them, was therefore fallacious. They asked only
to be put in a fair relative position with the foreign
grower.
Lord MILTON said, a duty was first imposed on,
foreign wool in 1819, it being then found neces,ury to
raise taxes to the amount of 8,000,0001. In 1824 Go.
-vernment was made aatisfied of the impolicy of the
tax, and Lord Liverpool agreed to its repeal. He sup-
ported liberal principles of trade some years back, in
opposition to the sense of most of his constituents ; but
they were now convinced that he was right. If the
tax on foreign wool should be re-imposed, a positive
bargain between the agriculturists and manufacturing
interest would be broken.
The Petition was read, ant ordered to be printed.
Mr. WI L BRA HAM presented a Petition from Southampton,
against the Friendly Societies Bill.
Mr. WELLS presented a Petition from the Owners and Occu-
piers of Land near Stockbridge, Kent, praying for an increased
duty on the importation of Foreign Corn.
Sir J. GRAHAM wished to ascertain from the
Right Hon. the President of the Board of Trade what
qbantity of foreign grain had been expo? ted within the
list year from the Northern ports of England to the
Isle of Man, and what measure Government had taken
to put an end to the practices of which he complained ?
He understood that the extent of the evil was very great.
Mr. C. GRANT said, it was undoubtedly true that
the species of intercourse which the Hon. Baronet al-
luded to, as existing between Englartd and the Isle of
Man, had lately increased very much ; and the state of
the law was such, that he feared there was not any
power vested in his Majesty's Government to prevent
it. It was, however, his intention that night to give
notice of a motion, which would have for its object to
put an end to the practices complained of.