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JOSE ACCURSIO DAS NEVIS.

FRENCH PAPERS.

The Gazette de Frame of Sunday states, on the au-
thority of the Augsburg Garage, that the mission of M.
de Matuezewiez from the Cabinet of St. Petersbutgh
to that of -London is likely to lead to very important
results. It seems that he has already declared to the
English Ministry, that. Russia would not consent that
Greete should be reduced to the Morea and the Cy-
clades, as this was not the object of the Treaty of the
6th of July; and that his Government would consider
it as contrary to the principles adopted. by the three
Powers who are parties to that Treaty, it negotiations
were to be opened at Constantinople without the co-
operation of a Russian Minister ; that the Emperor
Nicholas was still firmly resolved to fulfil the stipula-
tions of that Treaty, and that he espected no less from
his august allies. When M. de Matuezewicz leaves
London he is to go to Paris, in order to endeavour to
induce the French Governitivot to adopt the ideas of his
Court, and that be will go to Berlin.
The Cortesponsient of the Augsburg Gazette, at
Rome, says that the troubles in that city are reduced to
the existence ola band of Carbonari. compwe.l of young
men of the middle classes, and of old :oldie's, among
whom there was not a single Officer. The police, which
load long been aware of it, surprised them all, just as
they were preparing to receive a new member. It was
said th .t 60 persons were at rested, several of whom had
41resily been set at liberty.
Fazio. Funos.—Panes, 111•4 co 14.—Five per Cents. 108 f.
LOU. 95e 90e.—'lluer per Cents. 791. 20e. 25c. I.le•—kLnk Ae•
I,23ol.—ltenots de Naples., Str. 40e.—Royal SpanivA Loan,
80;,.—Itente perpetuelle livpAgne, 49j. 50. 49i. 50.—HAytian
Loan. 522 f. 50c.-112change on London, one m0ut6,251. 35e. three
montbv, 25i. 204.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS. MARcii 16.

The Duke of CUIIIIERLA ND gave notice that be would.
on Thursday, present the general Petition of the Protestants of
Island against granting any further Concessions to the Roman
Catholics.

Mr. Soon, from the Chamber of London, prriented at the bar
the Annual Account of the Receipts and Expenditure of the Or-
phan Fund, and of the Fund for Building the New London bridge.
The Marquis of SLIGO presented Petitions front four parishes
in the county of Sago, praying for Catholic Entancipation.—Or-
dered to lie on the table.

Lord LORTON presented ten Petitions against granting fin tber
Coneesaions to the Homan Catholic,; seven from parishes in the
county of Donegal; two from Parsons-town ; and another parish
in the King's county ; and one from a parish hi the county of
Aionagban.—Ordered to lie on the table.
SffKLIIKKSDA LP: presented Petitions to the ume
effect from twitparishes in Chesser. The Noble Lord said, that
he had bestowed his utmost attention upon the subject to which
the petitions alluded. and he could not bring himself to change the
opinions which he bad so lung time formed upon it.—The petitions
were laid on the table.

Thu Karl of SHAFTESBURY presented a Petition from a
parish in Chewer to the same effect.—Laid on the table.
Lurd BACHE presented Petitions from Killslue, and a parish
in the county of Kerry, against the S.ib-letting Act ; and from a
Unitarian Congregatiop in Bolcon le- Xioor, praying fur a repeal of
all lases imposing civil disabilities upon the Roman Catholics.—
Laid en thelable.

The Sari Of GUILFORD presented seven Petitions against the
Catho:ic Claims from Mary-la-bonne, the counties of Southamp-
ton. Essex, slid Kent.—Laid un tbr table.

Lord ARDEN presented Petitions against granting further
Cottce•doms to the Roman Catholics from two parishes in the
county of Cork:—Ordered to lie on the table.

Lord MELVILLE presented ► Petition from the Corporation
of Goldsmiths, Ediuhurgh, praying that the Government would
take such measures as should relieve the Roman Catholics from
the dhabilities wider which they hibuured.—Ordered to lie on
the table:

The Bishop of LONDON presented a Petition from the Clergy
of the Archdeaconry of &ass against granting further Concessions
to the Boman Catholics ; also Petition. to the same effect from
Redbourne and Sys other parishes in Essex, and fruits a parish in
Surrey.—Ordered to lie on the table

' Lord PLUNKETI' presented Petitions from Bray, Kilbrigh,
Archstraw, and two other parishes In the county of Dublin, pray-
ing for Catholic Emancipation.—Ordered to lie on the table.
The Earl of ELDON presented Petitions against granting any
further Concessions to the Roman Catholics from a parish in the
county of Durham; from Chepstone ; a Dissenting Congregation in
Chelmsford; Innethip, in Ayr; Calnop, in Staffordshire; Aber-
dair, and another parish In Glamorgan; from Narberth, Tenhy,
Leragotkley, and from three other parishes in Pembrokeshire; from
Prowston, Coventry; a parish in the East Riding of York; a parish
in Cardigan • from &dilly, Staffordshire, signed by per-
sons ;from Cardigan;
; from the Protestant Dissenters of the pariah
of Mary-la-bonne; from a parish in Essex; from the Corporation
at Gardeners of Glasgow; from the Congregation of St. Andrew's
Scotch church, Stepnese ; from the Wesleyan Methodists and the
Dissenters of two other places; from a parish in Cumberland;
from Sheldoo,.and another. parish in Hull; from a parish in Car-
marthen ; from the Clergy and other inhabitants of 131ackbourne,
in Lancashire; from a parish in Mcrioneth ; and from Lesmebaqus;
from a parish of Norfolk ; from Glennally, in Devon ; from a
parish an Hampabili; from Berton on Trent ; from %shy, Here-
ford; from a parish in Donetshire • (rum Ambrutnley, in Staf-
fordshire ; frau Pawky, in Norfolk ; trans Rothsay ; from the
inhabitants of Cheltenham, dined by 4,3oo—(the Noble Earl ob-
served, that this petition had received the signatures of several
Ladies)—from Getholden • from a parish In Lincoln ; and from
Outwore, in Uoss-shire.--The petitions were all ordered to be on
the table.

1 - 'l' he Sul of WICKLOW presented a Petition from the county
of Deny in favour V Catholic Claims.—Ordered to 1k on the table.'
Look
The Karl of hiOUNTCASHEL presented a Petition from the
Presbyterians of Buttner* against concessions to the Catholics.—
The Noble Lutespressed his apprehensions that at the neat ge.
`octal ekcticon M Ireland. which he felt convinced was not far dis-
tant, because hp saw with certainty that • dissolution of Parliament
mein soon.tahe plate, a great deal of bad and angry feeling would
be excited asaidstibe contending parties—the malt of the maserss
toward by his Hikers Ml:Asters.

Lord KENTON said, that, having been 4 Member'
of their Lordships' House for a considerable number of
years. be might appeal to their Lordships whether he
were frequently in the habit of intruding himself upon
their Lordships' attention ? but at the present time, on
an occasion which be thought called upon every min
who sincerely felt attached to the consti!ution of the'
country, openly and freely to declare his sentiments.
be felt that it became him to state his real opinion upon
the question which his Majesty's Ministers had thought
fit to bring forward, and which he (Lord' Kenyon)
looked upon as of a nature most impuitant—a question
which was considered by the great majority of tl.e
country as one involving ding r to the State—and a
question involving those principles upon which the
House of B uoswick was seated upon, and still pos-
sessed, the throne of England. He did not rrink that
anything was more unjustifiable than the c.mduct of
his Majesty's Ministers in bringing lora/art the mea-
sure, without having previously iutorn►ed their Lntd•
ships of that House, and the
.Members of the other
Hose of Parliament, what thq preelse nature of that
measure was—a measure wholly unaccompanied by
ktany kited of 'security wh r►rver to the Protestant Con•
titiidon of the counts y is established in the year 1688

—that measure was for the removal of all ajisabiliti s
under which the Roman Cat'eolics laboured. • Such it
appeared to he, and such it would seem was bis Ma
jesty's opinion. But he (Lord-Kenyon) thought that
his Majesty dad not know in what shape that opinion
would have been brought firward by the Noble Duke.
Earl GREY called the Noble Lord to order. He
thought the Noble Lord was out of ruder in alluding
to opinions entertained by his Majesty upon any sub-'
ject brought forward in that H. u-e of Pdi Insolent.
Lord KENYON could n..t think that he had made
any remark Which could subject him to a charge of a
breach of order. It was a matter of paramount im-
portance that any thing connected with the rn-acute,
a measure on which the public felt, and most naturally,
so deep an interest, should be clearly and distinctly
understood—a measure which involved the rights, not
only of the people, but of his Majesty. his croa‘n, and
digni y. He knew that in what he was about to state
his Majesty's Mioisters prof. ssed to think doff real, ;.
he could not, however, suppress the nisi., ssion of his
own conviction, that to give ht.: :opal assent to the
measure contemplat• d would be against the principle
of the King's Coronation Oath—(Heir, front all sides
of the Howie). • He (Lord Kenyon) for one, was free to
confess, that, in his opinion, such an assent would be
contrary to the spirit of the Coronation Oath; and he
should like to know from the Nablil Dike opposite,
whether a military officer commanding under him, to
whom the deferice of a fortress should be committed,
would be justified in the surrender of that fortress,
which he had sworn t.) defend?--(11.-ar4 Would such
officer be thus fulfillin4 the spirt f the engagement
into which he had entered? He would gn tut her, and
contend that the spirit of the Coronation 04,1 z would
be specifically violated by calling upon hi, Majesty to
give his royal assent to such so: isure. These could
be no diffizulty in understanding 014 pos , for it
was quite impossible that any man at even common
capacity could rat ct upon the measure for a moment
without being convinced that, i. it shoul I piss into a
law, the Chuis.h of Ireland at least could not stand.—

therefore, if the Kit:g sh,•uld give la, Assent to the
measure. and -the Church of Ireland ,In.l.f—and it
would as a natural consequence—he destr .led, would
oat the assent nt his Mtjesty, in that c..-e. te a direct
violation of the spirit of oliatiois o.iili?—(llrat.)
That was a considetati.m which Ministers ought to
have well weighed be ore they advi•ed the S orrreign
to recommend such a mtasure—a messuie which, if
passed into a law, wooed he eminelith calculated to
weaken toe affections of hi, M iesty's to) Al Ptotestaiit
subjects. The best %emit, of the Crown was always
beli. red to consist in the affections of the I enple; would
it not, thei dote, he a weakening of that secti.ity to
catty into effect measures ca•csiat•st to diminish the
A;t4climent of his subjects to the person of their Mo-
4iaich, and their teli.itsce upon his adhering firmly to
the spit it of the 0 ith he took at his coronation ?
On what grounds did Ministers enfend theis introduei
tion ni t at subject in Vie Speech drliseed on the pad
of his M .je,ty on the opening of Najaf:ma? That it

was more pleasant that the °Demise sh .uld be carved
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without the espre%sion of A great difirtence of Opinion
upon it in Path talent—that n. aou d be more pleasant
that there bh.luld be no longet any reason t n the main-
tenance of a large nnifitar) fPi ce in tire Kingdom.
He dou'ne.l riot but that untie relazition of intent-

perance would, among ter ain persons in Ireland, fol.
low the passing of the measure; but when the people
should (as they would) 6nd that they had been delu.:ed
by tl.e demagogues-411e the measure brought nothing
in tie bbApe or advantage to them—then sense of dis-
appointment would be so deep and so strong a. to create
an excitement, a dissatisfaction, much more formidable
than they felt at present—(Hear) Fot these reasons
be limei,ted that the pleasure had been brought for-
ward. He regretted having intruded at such length
upon the time of. their Lordships—that he had Irk him-
self imperatively called upon to state his own opinions
upon a gt►estion on w hich the people of this country felt

eery strongly. The Noble Lora concluded b) con-
tending, that the Noble Duke could be only doing his
ditty were he to recommend to his Majesty to take the
sense of the people on the great quebtons by a dissolu•
clan of P4rliament.

The Dake of WELLINGTON—I do not mean, not-
withstanding what has fallen from the Noble Lord, to
enter now on the discussion of the measure to which
the Noble Lord has alluJed. I understood that it had
been agreed upon and arranged that these discussions
should not b: perpetually cahled up, on the occasion of
presenting petitions; but that the subject should be al-
lowed to rest till the matter cause regularly before
the House. I have clearly and distinctly, and openly
pledged myself and the rest of his Majesty's confi-
dential savants, to show that the measure for the
settlement of the C.tholic Claimi will not be attended
with the mischievous consequences which its oppo-
nents dread. On the contrary, I say it will be attended
with the most beneficial consequences; and for it.
good effect, we are responsible to Parliament and
to the country. The Noble Lord asks whether the
measure has been explained to his Majesty? I an-
swer that it has been explained ; and I would deserve
the severest censure of your Lordships and the nation,
if I had brought down such a measure tosParliament
wi.hout having explained it to his Majesty. Does the
Noble Lord imagine that his Majesty would gin his

PRICE SEVENPENCR.

confiJence to any man who would se.itore to lay a mra.
sure of such importance, or any sneasurP beloie Par.
liament without ex' laming it to him? Th- notion that
he would suffer any servant so to act, is little lets than
an insult to his Majesty. I will not now enter upon the
discussion of the question, wheth'r this is or is not a
violation of his Majesty's Coronation Osth ; but I do
say that the measore does not in Vie slightest degree
'ouch on the Coronation Oath, and that I unJert Ice to

show when it comes regularly under discus-ion befoie
your Lordships. I have read a cortesp..ndence, to
which an ance-tor of the Noble was a party; and
neither he nor my Noble and Lea ned F iend (L rd
Eldon) on the Cross Bench, nut Loud Liverpool,
wit my Ri4ht H •nourable Friend in the Vier Hues ,
thought that the Coronation Oath had any thing to
do with the measure of reasonable Cow e-sion to tte
'RomanCatholics. In the letter to lii, late Maje ty tiom

the I ite Lord Kenyon, these was not a woad to coume•
nance the idealltitt in his opinion a measure I th.s kind
would be el •iolahon of the Coronni•rn Oath, of rat

the oath would be in the least affected by This much
I thought it tight to say, in answet to the Nob:e 1, rd's
assertions, although it is most incouseirelit that these
topics should be brought under ducuisinet night atter
night, on every octavos when petitions a►e roesented,
contrary to tie arrangement which I understood to be
agreed to, that all discussion on the subject should be
deterred till the question came in the regular Uteri, be
fore the H u•e. I orpeat that, when it doe. come, I
will be ready to show th.t the measure of reasonab e
conce,sions to the Catholics will not only nut be at.

tended with any injury to the Protestant Es-tahli%hrneitt
.nd the Con tutution of the country. but that it a ill

tend materially to strengthen boil), and t !at the re ter
danger to theConstoution And the PrAestant E•tAblish•
ment would he to r.fuse to settle the questica in a man-
ner calculated to put an end to the divisions and dissen-
sions amongst the population of the county—(Hear).
Lord KEN YON—Tire question which lie put to the
Noble Duke was nut whe her the measure had been
explained to his Majesty when it was submitted to the
other Houle of Parliament, but whether the treasure
invaded to be submitted to Parli intent had been ex•
plained to his Maje.ty at or Wine the time when his
Majesty's Sp, ten was laid before bo b Houses at the
opening of the Session?
The Duke of WELLINGTON—It was—(Laugl ter).
Lord KENYON very wrllingiy left t Noble Lows
the indulgence of their merriment. He cold not,
however, suppress his astonishment that. with all the
acuteness of mind which the Noble Duke possessed, he
could have read the cut respondence alluded to, and not
perceive that bis (Lord Kenyon's) levered &tic. stor had
maintained that the afft:ng of the Royal assent to a
measure similar to that under 'consideration soul.' he
a distinct and positiie violation of the coronation oath—.
(Hear)—acrd he was quite sure that if the Noble Doke
were again to teed it i.e would hirnsell be convinked rf
that fact.

Earl GREY, at•moch length, deprecated 4:sciiiiirri
until the general meat.uie should be iutro.tuct .t ; con-
tending that no good purpose could be ansseted by
throwing out charges merely upon assertion. In his
opinion the best made in which thee Noble Lod, could
defend our establi hments, about which they profess to
f el so mooch tinziety, would be to wait until they should
be regularly attacked, and then to come forward and
support them with the whole of their arguments. His
own proposition was, that the passing of the measute
in qnestion would bet o violation of oe consist' tion as
este+) isheii.at the revolution—no violation of th King's
coronation oath; and he should be prepared to maintain
it when the measure should come segolat Ty. bet.oe their
Lordships. The Noble Earl then proceeded to depie-
cate the introduction of his Majesty's name in discus-
s ons in that House. Ministers were, in the present
instance, responsible for the introduction of the tonic in
the Speech ; but for the introduction of the measure
into P..rliament they were not so respor.sible —that they
did in their capacity of members of the Legislature.
The Earl of FALMOUTH—Hid he been present
when the arrangement alluded to by the Noble D..ke
had been entries' into, he would most willingly have
concur:edit) it; for no Noble bud could more forcibly
feel the inconvenience of discussing the question iire.
pokily and prematutely. He-would venture to say .
that tot eves), page of matter uttered by the Noh:e
Lads on the cross-bench on the subje r, whole folios
bad been spoken by the Noble Duke and the Noble
Lords who supported hint—(A laugh). Ile thought it
rather unfair, therelore, that the N .ble Duke should
conic forward to lecture Noble Lords on the practice.
The responsibility assumed by the Noble Duke, and it
was a heavy responsibility, gave him IL od Falmouth)
some consolat on. He hoped that the Noble Duke
would, at the proper season, redeem the pledge he bad •
given, by proving that, should the measuie be assented
to by his Majesty, it would be no viol ition o: t .e CUI a-
nation 04th. t•

The Earl ti FARNHAM agreed oith' Noble Lords,
that it would be desirable to tonfine the debate on the
measure to a pad( ular night—the occasion of semi d
reading for example—but such an arrangemeht would
be incompatible with the duty of Noble Loids it do
measure were to be pressed torward with all the baste
already perceptible. The details of the Hill had not
been explained until the sth of the present month. It
had not brtn painted until Thursday last, lied yet it was
to be read a second time to morrow I lie would ask,
therefore, were twelve days sufficient to citable the.
petlele of this country to inform themselves ferreting
-the nature and objects of a measliest of such vital im-
portance?—(Hear, hear). If time were allbtred, the
people would express their opinion of that meataiei and
their Lordships would learn, that never was there one
to which the public feeling was so completely ofposed.
The Noble Duke had said too days•before its introduc-
don into the other House of Parliament, that it would
be found calculated to satis'y all Noble Lordseven
the Right Rev. the Bench itself. Had that pledge beta
redeemed? The measure was brought forward, and
gave to the Catholics political power —to the Estabitshr d
Church no security at all—(Cheers). The best, because,
perhaps, the only excuse that could be made for that
omission, was, that no security could be offered-
-(Cheers). It was an insult ,o Parliament—it *as so
insult to common sense to call those conditions securities
by which the concessions to the Catholics oese to be
accompanied;—(Hear). Like other Noble Lords, he rr-
gretted being obliged to deliver his sentiments in a way
so irregular'; but the maiiinfr jgc which the measure was
hurried through Parliament left hint nn alternative.
The Dyke ri WELLINGTON had sot, tin tWoccasion Wen ed.