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appointed by this country for the liquidation of do*
drums. An Act was passed. the S9th of the late Kim,.
in which certain Commissioners were nominated °
to
pviardand liquidate these claims, and of course doe
proceeded to the objects of their inquiry, and had, ao
'doubt, acted as persons so circumstanced ought to
act. He did not mean to refer to the whole to
that Act of Parliament, but there was the conchs.
sion of one clitlie-; Whiett 'it -*it netessery
sho rld be in possession of. 'The part to Which he
alluded enacted, .than 'braise all, sects-deem-Auld
be liquidated, the money should be appropriated 10
such other purpose as the •Cominissioners of the Tres.
sort. or any three of them, should appoint; that out
rheneeet there was any actual surplus over the claimer
it was to be at the disposal of Ale Lords of the Trey.
Bury, or any three of them, that 'number forming
quorum. There oas an Act of the 6th of Gen. w.t.
, triable the Commissioners of Woods and Forest , whet-
by the 4th of the King were to pay certain SUMS to the
Consolidated Fund, instead opt so doing, to pay Ott,
70,0001. per year of it to defray the expenses avendim,
the building. 9r rebuilding, of Buckingham Palace,:
Of this grant only i 1,0001.-. was actually advanced lode.
fray the expenses attending the actual building,theten
baring been applied to the alterations of the gar dens awl
bonding of the stables. At the same time the Lords of the
/vet mightbe to construed as to mean that all the expenses
ntteuding any part of Buezingliam House Trete to be
defrsyed oat Of the hereditar7 revenue of the cropoi
subject to therein:rot:l of the Corrimis.ioners of Woods
Voteless. This work was undertaken in 1825, gad
'into its proptiety hp. (lid net mean to enter. He gas
quite convincer' that the vote of any sum of money ier
cessary for the maintenance of the splendour of the
Crown would becheerfully acquiesced Why the pegyie
f this coontry ; but he was equally convinced that say
improper diversion (-1 a sum voted by Act of ?grin.
ment liom its intended purpose would be d enied' so.
justifiable, and aught to be visited with runislimnit.-
This *as no party question. but one which Would p
to decide whether the King', Ministers hid the power
of disposing at their pleasurz*ld. any surplus sum at.
money that might' by accident fail into 'their hauls)
without consulting Parliament, even though' 'Pohl,
meat should be then sitting? ¶l'be case before the
Elnusele coosidered to involve a Most clandestine
During the ishole of the periods in which the matey •
bed been issued, Parliament had actually been sitting...
IF delay could there:ore h.ive been apprehended;
and consequently no excuse 'could be offered foe
Ministers in having omitted 'to apply for the coned
of the Legislature to that
which.
wltbout it, became'
misappropriation. Parliament would t.ave only to do'
elate that, although only one sum of 70,0001:had bat:
paid out of the gross amount ordered to be advanced
by annual parments of 70,000!.for the building and to'
pairs of palaces, it would be expedient to appropi hear
surplus in question, and there *mold have been abaft
of the difficulty. That had drotbeen done, however, aria
he could only account for Lord Liverpool souittingthe
fcrmal necessary steps by supp-sittg that his Lorihip
found that largie.ittms of money were demanded of limo•
and that be had no other Mode of meetinglhosedeosedi
than by this his-appropriation. The .detalestion Moe'
ing been discovered by the Commissioners of lan*.
(as we understood), it was determined to apprise Littl
Liverpool 'of that tact. OR the Report being mimic*
his Noble Friend (Lord 7.:arnb Irougb) then at
of the Woods and Forests, the Chief Conudiseisesuef
Liquidation was Sent for, and •in answer to *aim -
put to him, stated all the Circumstances of the ttailser-•
anon. The House would recollect the similar approptise
tio'n of another surplus, which had been facetiously
termed. a o Ged•send," and on the same potted M.
supposed'the case under consideration would be weed
as similarly disposable • but he held that that fond so
.sacredo-athat considerable • caution should have boa
exercised great reluctance evinced, and a strong
case of necessity made out,• before such an appli-
cation of money should have been directed without
the sanction of Parliament. He understood rothing
of what was called State Policy, bat he understood
plain truth, which would be always found to le
the•safest guide. and which in the present case to
that which ought to have been followed.... The Goo-
ftliSSlOtier (of Liquidation) was asked, 44 WhatoMOber
this fund is thereremaining?" He replieslo43ooo4
I think. but I am quite sure we have at yonr.dispool
.250,000.—(A laugh). .eg-Welt,"` said -the other pants
we will dispose. of it for y00.".--(Laughtels Theo?
propriation cotisequentit.trsiakpl#e.-bnt Witfieet apt*
city. In this cuse it was renisirkable that the Treasury
Minute for the issue of the *first 100,000/..was dated
I twenty days after the issue—(Heac). 't he ;issue took
place on the 10th Matthi.l626, and therreasory Minute
of Lord Liverpookhdredate 30th March. in the saws
year. The Trersurytbdinute stated, moreover, that the
-ist of

FEROUSON ltigrited, Whelk! kWI6 Intended to toenail
11111 ealliraikat)lt~ in *WIWI? ..•. - • ••••
. Mr. Nowak/ ,g ,p,Kr., was hot then prepared to answer the. tree-
don, bit the matter *as natFer-stost- sidkration • He, however,
thought target* Ant! ea weliwitilledlst an Increase of -Marg. •
Mr. LBSLIR FOSTER hoped the Irish Judges would not be
forgotten by the Night Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Secretary Peel.)
seutitate► then left the Chair, and the HOLM went into Com-
mittee, Sir Asexamote Goatee in the Chair.
The &Molting sums were then voted. viz.
• 414,554 for the Protestant Schools in Ireland for the year 1821.
£9,000 for the Assixiation for Disconntenaocing Vice, for the
year 1828. •
48,928 for the Roman Catholic Seminary of Maynooth for the
year 1828.
.625 WO to defray the expense of the Society for the Protection
of the Poor for 1828. • '
.632,506 to defray the expense of the Foundling Hospital for
the year 1828.
.61,500-to defray the expense of the Belfast Academical Irstits-
tion for 1828.
A desultory conversation ensued on this grant, between Mr. 1..
POSTS% Mr. S. Rice, and Mr. Secretary Pau., who declared that
the Professors of this College would not in future be rejected on,
the ground of their religious opinions, but would be eligible solely
on the grounds of capability and good moral conduct.—The Hogue
rearmed. Report to-morrow.
On the third reading of the County Lunatic Asylum Bill,
Sir E. K N ATC H BULL proposed a clause, the effect of which
wss to authorise Justices to exonerate tenants of lands in cases of
short leases, from one half of the expls:se raised by County Rates
for the purposes of building Asylums.
Mr. C. WOOD objected to the claw', as tending to relic re one
portion of the county at the expense of the other.
Mr. Br.,.Nrrr supported the clause, b muse he thought it unfair
that persons holding short teases should be subject to these - rate:
equally with leaseholders of a longer term.
The clause was then brought up, read, and agreed to; passed
through a Committee of the whole. House; and, after some obser.:'
nations from Lord ALTHOBT, Mr. G04130X and S,',r E.KEATcmtut.cr,
wu added to the Bill by way rider.—The Bill was then patted:
SMALL DB.IITS taLL.
Mr. Secretary PEEL moved toe second reading of
the Small Debts sill. The Right Hon. Gentleman
said he kid hoped that 'the Bill could have osen passed
this
.Session, but difficuuics had in:ervened to prevent
; they arose from the ncces.ity of providing for the
patent offices in the higher Coatis. Since he moved for
leave to bring in the Bill, a commission had issued to
inquire into the'sUbject, when it was found -hat great
.diffioulties had itisen in respect of the compensation ;
which in some cases, if aEordvd, would give certain ;
Officer, more and others less, but in effect the pthlic
could not be benefited in coitscluence. He therefore'
would suggest for • eberx piesetit a PititUtl ConiiThisdion'
until the patent offiCelLtwoula be regulated 3r be totally
abolished., Ile tberefore &Wald propose a clause to that
effect. maiing prOVisten for. flse ousting pitentees,
leaving the subject of abolicioa foe futufe consideration.
He would . suggest the taking. au account of the fees,
csk,then making compensation out of these fees. to
purchase out the existing interest of ..he patentee. Tire
Anew would then. see that it would be only necessary to
puiv,iase a certain Compensation according to the salary.
Skr.fpfht NEivPORT fully concurred in all that bad fallen
from the Right Hon. G•ntletuan; as, to the inadequacy of any come
penSation'etause to meet the wishes of. the public and the present
statmof mit finances. ' •
Lord A LTHOEF bore testimony to the excellence of the Bill
*idle Right Honoera:)te Gentleman (Mr. Peel), and said he would:
rampart it. He hoped, howevereehat so necessary a measure wool&
not be ostitoned to a late 'period.
lUME expressed a: hope that the' would not he post-
poned to a later period than the ttest Serioa. •i
, . Mr. LEN NA RD,objeete4 to that portion of the Bill which gave
:gear et rrolgo,ll the Judges of County Courts annually to the
-'The Sill drat Aiwa* a second thee, and ordered to be cam-.
Stetted on Frisby MM. •
Si[ A..QRANT krought up.the Report of Supply, and several
It the Resolutions were agreed to.
On the grant for 'Pensions' ben proposed,
• • Sir .Y. GRAHAralubjeeted that an °Seer of the name of Brown
tentived a military -pension, whilst In the enjoyment of a lucrative
dell office.
Mr. Ht/ME also objected faith! pension enjoyed by Mr. Lush.'
td on, who hadi must estedumentary situation in India.
The CHANCELLOR-of-ski ILKCIIEQUER said, that he PSI
Sure Mr. laashingtou would take no pension to which be vale Nog'
propel, entitled. - s.
The other Resolations were than agreed to. • t
Sir H.'HARDlNGlictenotice that on Monday nextbe would
mai', the Ordamice.Estittiates iri a• Committee of Supply.
',autos runtimes (scarce) to
Mr. H. DRUMMOND moved the 0-der of the Day foe le
further consideration of the Salmon fisheries Presentation '
The Bill was then read a third tin.z.
. On ;be question that this Bill do pass,
M. FERGUSON contended at sense length that the Sabin
Illshery in the River Thurso should be exempted Luna the oplutuf4.
of tine Bill, and moved a clause to. that effect.
Mr, HU SIE seconded the clung:. ,
Colonel LINDSAY supported the Bill u it originally skid, and
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hailed rat would pass that. Hciuse.
- The 'LORD 'ADVOCATE said, that if the Eberle, or the
Tweed and Solway were exempted from the operation of this Bill,
the remise was that the, p•incipal property in those rivers eras
English. AU the oilier rivers in Scotland were Included In this Bill,'
and he saw no .reftioti why the river Thurso should 112 excluded:
He should decided}, oppose the clause—(Cries of Question).
After a few weeds from Mr. Home Dammam>, the Gallery was
dared •foradlylaion.
For die Motion • • • ••• .1$ in
For the Ansendinent is.
• • Majority ••• s. •,•••76
The BM was then pouted.

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ALLNORD MISAPPLICATION oe.runctic annum.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR said, that lie trusted to the in.
dulgence of the House, having. sat in it forty years, in
bringing the inoticia.of which he had given notice for—
ward. In speaking of the jealousy of chat House with
t'n the issuing of public money, he need not refer
to the records of parliament in proof of it. That jealousy
was icl Well known a characteristic of that Heuse, that
he should deem it needless to seek for proofs of it. If
we setered this jealousy from the Representatives of the
people, we should sap the very foundations of the
national independence and welfare. He would not
weaken the self-evident truth of this by any argument
of his. Sufficient it was for his purpose that the prin-
*plc was established, from the assertion of which
be would not shrink, that that House had a right
`to. via:tool the expenditure cf public money, let it
cons.. into the hands of the Commissioners of Taxes
lin what shape it might—(Hear, hear, hear.) Any
violation *of this prinetile by the Government was a
violation of the. privileges of that House, and a dere-
lic;ion from clutys on, the part of Ministers, highly cen-
sorable—(Hes4 Ile would no loager detain the House
with arguments on.tbis plain proposition, which, if any
one chose to deny, be was sure would be mkt with but
rope feeling on the part of that House. He would next
.peeseed to a statensent of the facts which had given
risc to the resolution with which he meant to eon
-
elude. If those facts established the ease, be thought!
there had been 11 gross. violation of the privileges of
that route. From papers< before the House, and
West facts that bad come :to his knowledge, and
which he believed to. be 0104 and he 4411engial
,lion. Gentleman On the cr.lum side of the House to dist
prove them, he meant to shoo; that the Resolution with
gelaich he should conclude was correct. All of them,'
csr. at any rate a great number of them, must recollect
the unfortunate war which so long distracted Etiiope,
And wore out this country. From the conseqUences
ffitich followed that war, the country might never re-
slictiVs and ikyrae from some of them that his . motion
close

money was to bi'siiiprisprined to defray the expel).
erecting and improving Builiingliam Palace, which sr
propriation was in direct Contravention of the Act
Parliament which bad appropriated other funds for that
purpose. The Treasury' Minute further stated that the
money was to be paid *heti called for. '
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Rep:44A
blush).
Mr. M. A.TAYLOR Well, repaid—but if it had
been so repaid, we should neier have had any know-
ledge of the transaction.". This (the Hon: Gentlenua
proceeded to contend) was the largest sum that had bees
clandestinely applied since the lievolution. The Coro
missioners of Woods and Forests had no power to ac-
cept of it. No Hdhoutable Member could for 115410
moment attempt to maintain that the framers of toe
Bill for the appropriation of the fund in question had
ever in view a disposal of the money different.from eat
presented by the Act. In order to bring the rustler
'folly before the House. he had moved for a Rimer
.which, when presented, be found imperfect. It wi
amended by a statement that there was a pal t of it If•
plied to the relief of the starving manufactuters.—bal
at would be found that the money so advanced for the
linnet Of the manufacturers had been all repaid
Vrbile—although this was the month of June, ifitS'
and that two years had elapsed since the other sunislua
beensiisappropriated—not a single shilling t fit bla
beets repaid by the Commissioners of Woods and Forel*
The sum.of 9.50,0001. had been thus advanced— •
OnthelOth &larch, 1126 .• . . . ,ClOO.OOO
Oti theitth February, 1827 . . 34000
On the 25tb Much, 1827 . . . „ sooPos
Oa the zOth jou; ler? • . . . 1500
Pat '6f that to, uer, it would be seen, had bees sk
untied while Lord Liverpool was, unfortunately, dig
able to attend to business. If this mis•appropriat4
were to be 'permitted, it stight be said to the h Sa
to the erection of Waterloo Bridge, that as they veg
losing money by their adventure, the Treasury ell
ready to advance money for their rebel, and the
thi col
might 'be multiplied ad injadana. He did not s'
that - tools, but in the

riOet2Atit-tk e. _of this unfortonate war it was At the Treasury people sere is, . , pool
took
tnnil4.o4l4lPacy of the subjects cf Great Britain had case they had acted as if they were—for it would ho`
4strong ejatoyous Mit Government of France, and in the cost them very little trouble to have obtained the save
Trpatlisi farictbaisfete, in May, 1814, it was htipu- von of Parliament for an act, which, wanting that air
stain
that thTFrench Guvernment should assign th • was unjustifiable. In reply to art charge that Ib'
ça. griti„
portion of minim the hands of Contraissionim traksertioi kW not been brought Wore Pollnow,