Star.
London, England, 1819-05-05 00:00:00

• J (the Chancellor of the Exchequer). The
1,) ag.tinst the Lotteries had, in his opi-,
c:hluelebeen'n-2rgeul-mou7Jedon a wrong basis. The motion
'cc the country of the benefits of a eonsi-
was ne, without providing an equally pro.
cleolb'e —,:en It was one of the oldest modes of taxa-
&dive ta—ciern history. It had continued, he be-
in m•
'e
the Revolution; and it ought not to be
.„,nh"--' 'Ton light and trivial grounds. The Right
l'innotianneble Gentleman retorted upon the Gentlemen
"ppo ire
side of the House, who had used his
vOnir,'h-t ().
:arable Friend somewhat illiberally, be-
-11"h
faithfully discharged his duty to the
,'ie,• he
Anion,, a.l the great and transcendent qua-
his Right Honourable Friend,
IPitu"; °
equalled his profonnd knowledge
sti'llt Lady it had been fashionable to run
ei t
and to &claim loudly against them as
tj'lle,; the people. The Right Honourable Gen-
tPre"":`
t „van tan cm, imerated those which had been vehe-
annlerunej . The salt tax had fallen into dis-
„lce, hc:aase some Gentlemen thought it militated
much against the landed interest. The leather
tat
-ne unpopular, because it operated
rres
against certain classes . is. trade.—
nnes'ivtely 'c'6
l
because tt was injurious to the
Nest the spirit tax,
pu
• tds of the people. And this evening they• were
tiag.t to ex-ect a declamation against the Window
jrT, for reasons which the
Mover would soon favour
them with. It Gentlemen were to act upon this fa-
diditnis principle of finance—if revenue was to be
noced to the whim of the moment—if all these
c:er.nions of the mind arose from the care of public
0,,,:a15--lct them call a meeting, and agree to some
standard of morals, say what degree of morality they
• make their stand, and then perhaps it would be
esier to ascertain their teal meaning. His Right
lionouraSle Friend had too much good. sense, and
too midi manliness, to be induced to abandon an
weftil mode of taxation, on account of a violent but
amusing, declamation against Lotteries, or the Life
mu! Ad . eau.' res of a Servant Maid, as presented by
a *otthy Alderman. He knew that no taunting or
wanton attacks on his official character would ever
induce hi; Right Honourable Friend to forget his duty
to the ea entry--(Hear)—By following this line of
cosi'iuy.t. his Right Honourable Friend would imitate
the ezan,ple of his most illustrious predecessors, and
obtain the applause of his countrymen !—(Hear.)
Mr. WODEHOUSE declared, that after all he
bad heard, and anxious as he was to support the
Guano, of the country, he could not give his vote
is favour of a tax which added to the revenue only
in proportion as it spread immorality and crime
amongst the people—(flear, hear.)—Anicmgst the
lower orders, the spirit of gambling sometimes led
to robbery, and in sonic cases to suicide. It destroyed
the only source of a poor man's character and hap-
pi cress—(Hear, hear).
Mr. PLUNKETT conceived that this question
would decide whether the House had a moral feel-
ing. The Right Honourable Gentleman opposite
(fir. Canning) admitted the criminality of Lotteries,
but talked of the age of the crime. If it were as
old as the foundation of the world, it ought to be
rooted out. The present tax created a vice, for the
purpose of making it productive. It was a question,
not of revenue, but of morals, and in acting as they
were now doing, the Government of the country ab-
dicated their place to debauch the integrity of the
people—(!fear, hear).
Lord CASTLEREAGH denied that Its Right
llonourable Friend had acknowledged the crimina-
lity of Lotteries. It was their abuse, like that of spi-
rituous liquors, which might turn into vice or crime.
The practice had been sanctioned by the highest and
most moral names. He objected to that kind of
spurious and sublimated morality, which might at-
tack auy other tax with as much justice as the Lot-
tery. It was the bounden duty of Government, while
they maintained the morals of the people, to beware
7.,,t to sacrifice its strength, which was their best se-
urity-1 ka:•.)
Mr. F. DOUGLAS contended, that a substitute
had been proffered for the Lottery Tax, whenever it
had been proposed to reduce the Army, or carry real
economy into any other department. Had those sug-
gestions been adopted, there would be no cause to
dl for the present Tax. Much horror had been ex-
p:csed at the manner in which Foreign Governments
raised money on gambling-houses ; but here the
Chancellor of the Exchequer was the keeper of the
gambling-house himself—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. ILLIA.MS said, it might be as well to deck
brothels and give them a voluntary embrace, as to
support Lotteries. The species of gambling which
they created was the more pernicious, as it was not
that of the rich, but of the poor.
Mr. CANNING explained. He had said nothing
about brothels, and assured the Hon. Member that
be had not mentioned the word concupiscence once
in the whole course of his speech—( Hear, hear).
A MEMBER compared the state of the British Lot-
tery with that of those of Genoa, Germany, and
e4icterland. In the former the expense to the public
amounted to one-third, whilst in the latter it did not
elm! one-tenth.
Mr. TIERNEY conceived that sb trifling a sum as
to-
--JUN was disgracefully .purchased by the degra-
'j'..ion which accompanied the measure. Such a sum
odd make no great difference in the Loan for the
year, and he should have no objection to see
thus raised instead of £20,000,000.-
1 contended that Lotteries were not now what they
been, and objected to the manner in which the
ontractors disposed of tickets. Whatever the other
merits of his Hon. Friend's motion might be, it had
til:Zrnto,fbeing the only one whith had brought all the
'!embers of Government to act together; and on
ether qucstion. Put morality in the one scale and
--AMU in the other, and they were all agreed that
't money should be taken, and that morality should
for herself--(Laughter.) In this business, how-
t'er, the Chtteellor of the Exchequer had drawn the
grand prize, for he had gained the admiration of the
ilight Hon. President of the Board of Controul. But
of he embarked in that Little Go he would live to re-
patat
araMwir.nell
ut;
.SeKLOISSON maintained that the mode of
aid
not
excee trery was greatly improved. It now
d twelve days in the year, whilst in for time; there was one in England and one in Ire-
land, and each of them took forty days in drawing.
eatie sy to say, that I:2.50,000 might be added to
for the year ; but so might the £300,000 a
1.2 r Produced by the Window Tax in Ireland, or

any other tat barthensoute
tended that the present
down all the- of insurance.
Mr. LI IN --
neat in hills .
cible and just
against the' He
virtue of the flight Hon.
argument on his character
virtue. He had purposely h.. ap-
peal, and he wished it to be so The
Report of the Committee in 1809, of which the kite
Mr. Whitbread was Chairman, stated the lottery to
have been productive of idleness, dissipation, and
madness." Was the tax which produced such evils
to be compared with the leather tax ?—(Henr, hear.)
He called upon the House to put a stop to what de-
stroyed the morals of the country, and would finally
destroy its revenue—Cheers.
The House then divided, Ayes 84—Noes 133
Majority 49 against the Motion.

Mr. HUTCHlNSONmovedio7a—returti of all persons em-
ployed in or under the Alien Office in Great Britain and Ireland,
with their salaries • and also for a return oldie numbis of per-
sons sent out of the country from January, 1818.—Ordertd.
Sir G. HILL presented a Petition from Londonderry, pray-
ing for a repeal of the Window Tax.
The Committee on the Land Tax Commissioners MU was
postponed till Monday next.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave notice
for Thursday, of i motion for leave to bring in a Bill to make
the £i)000 a-year, patriotically given up by the Marquis of Cam-
den, as one of the Tellers of the Exchequer, available to the
public Service.
Sir HENRY PARNEI. I. gave notice that this day se'nnight
he should ask for leave to bring in a Bill to enable Roman Ca;
tholics to purchase Freehold Property without taking the quali-
fication oath : and grant them the same protection in places of
religious worship as to other Dissenters, and to bender it unne-
cessary for them to take the Qualification Oath before keeping
schools.—Adjourned.

THE EVENING STAR,•

LONDON.

IN THE FIRST FIVE MINUTE'S, NEXT TUESDAY,
TWO PRIZES OF h'so,ooo MUST BE DRAWN,FOUR
PRIZES OF £2O,OOO—EIGHT PRIZES cif Xit,ooo, £l,OOO,
AND £SOO, &c. &c &c. AND ONLY 10,000 TICKETS.

WEDNESDAY, MAY 5, 1819.
THE FUNDS.

PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT OMR O.CLCCIE
3 per Cent. Reduced 71{}a4
3 per Cent. Consols 72{ 72ft
33 per Cent. Boa-4 per Cent. 90a
5 per Cent. Navy 104105
Bank Long Annuities 18 13-16 I
Imperial 3 per Cent. Ann. 691 i
India Stock 218 214—India Bonds 28 pre.
Old Annuities 71—New Annuities 71i
Exchequer Bills (2d.) 9 11 premium •
Consols for Acct. 72ii.

The morality of the Lottery System was discussed
last night in the House of Commons, and although
its criminal tendency was demonstrated, the Mini-
sters declared their pecuniary necessities to be so ex-
treme, that they were obliged to continue in ILL-DOING
themselves, and in fostering vice in others !

The following opposite Statements have beea.pub-
fished of the circumstances attending the division
on the Catholic Question on Monday night :
Statement originating with the Anti. Catholic Party:
" The debate in the Mouse of Commons on Monday night,
was attended with some extraordinary circumstances. At the

conclusion of Lord Low:uses speech, the cry of " Question!
Question!" became loud and general, and it was accordingly
put from the Chair. The Swans having called upon the Ayes
and Noes, was of opinion that the Noes had it. There was
then a loud cry of " Divide I Divide 1" The Seamus gave the
usual order for strangers to withdraw, preparatory to a division.
The order was repeated, but without effect. Some of the
strangers under the gallery at length yielded with apparent re-
luctance, but those in the gallery kept their seats, conceiving
from the appearance below, that the debate would go on. This
expectation was founded upon the idea generally entertained,
, that it would be an adjourned debate, and the disposition shewn
by several Members to address the Chair. Among these were
Lora CASTLEREAGH, Mr. CANNING, Mr. PLUNKETTI Mr. PEW,
Mr. COLSLOUGH, and some others. Mr. PLUXICITT presented
himself twice; Mr. Pm. also offered himself to the attention
of the House, amidst loud cries of " Questint! Question!"

" A long discussion then arose, whether, it having been stated
from the Chair, that the Noes had it, the debate could be resu-
med ? The Seta KEIL gave his opinion in the negative, and that
as no Member could afterwards speak to the question, any ob-
servations to the order' of the House could only be delivered ill
the way of Idvice to the SrEatta, by the Member silting and
covered. W. C. WYNN then put his baton, and taking his
sear, cited a case from the Journals to skew that the debate was,
finally closed. A division then took place. when the numbers
appeared to be, for the Committee, 242, agailst it 248. On de-
claring these numbers at the table, Mr. Clot's, one bf the Tel-
lers, stated that it was hii duty to report, that some Members
1, had irregularly entered the House after the question had been
put, and the decision in favour of the Noes pronounced from the
Chair, whose votes must therefore be disallowed. It was ac-
cordingly decided that the names Of Lords Woacerma and
Rocs:savant, Mr. BANTU, Mr. Ulitt and General P ,
should be struck off fromthe Noes, and that of Lord Fosses from
the Ayes. This left the real numbers at Ayes, 241—Noes, 241.
Sir WM. SCOTT had retired previous to the question being put,
presuming that it would be an adjourned debate, and reserving
himself for to-night."

Opposite statement :
" It is said, that the friends of the motion called for The divi-
sion. That this is false, is apparent from the notorious fact, that
(to say nothing of the attempts df Mr. Psoworrr, and the known
intention of Mr. CoNNnact and Lord CAITLZRWISI) Mr. Lists
tried for sevmal minutes to obtain a bete* ; and that Mr.
Dovniss and Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH skewed a disposition to
deliver their opinions. Assuredly they were not prevented from
doing so by the Mends of the motion.
" ft is not true that Mr. rEaL offered himself to the attention
of the House at the same time with Mr. I'm:Nairn It is no-
tar i Gus, that a considerable debate occurred on the point of Or-
der, whether Mr. Ptuissarr could be heard at the stage of pm.
credit's at which he rose? That Mr. Piet went through the
formality of rising, it might be difficult, in a scene of such con-
fusion, positively to deny; but that he never wound up his COll.-
1 rage to the speaking point, is most certain.
" The division was indeed brought on at sa uneapected mo-
-1 ant, but for which it is easy to account. Mr. PLuncarr and

In It. This is contrary to the rule ; for though it is not meno4sal,l
for a Member to hear the argument on a question, he must be
in tile Hon* and hear it put from the Chair; to entitle him to
vott. By this deheroils manoeuvre of keeping the door opeii
for a time, the numbers of the majority *ere said to be 448
but several Gentlemen were called upon by name, as having got
access after the question was put ;.and they having owned the
fact, their votes were ecru& eff, which reduced the majority to
two, as we stated in yesterday's paper.
" Nothing, however, could be more decisive than the mode of
the House on the great national question, pronounced as It was ;
since not to reckon those•who paired off, the Ne.ilids who could
not remain to so late an hour, and the number of Members in town
who absented themselves from deference to the contrary opinion
of their constituents, the division was the greatestlont one ever
known in Parliament, there being, including the TAlers and
SPFILDER, no fewer than 40 present. The list of the Minority
will also show the respectability of the individuals of which it
was composed."

It is understood that the Report on the Bank Re-
striction has undergone some modification since Sa-
turday, and the hope is, that the measures it recom-
mends will now be practicable. RICARDO'S Plan
with respect to Bullion, as we have already stated,
is partly to be adopted. Notes to be a legal tender
for the amount of three or I:400; sums above that
limit to be paid in Bullion and Paper—the Silver
Coinage to be kept scarce, that it may not be em-
ployed to purchase Gold. The resumption to take
place either in January or March next. The Bank to
issue Gold at 13. Is. 6d. to be gradually lowered in the
course of two yesirs to the Mint rate. This complex
scheme the Bank hitherto has decidedly opposed.

It is now rumoured that the CHANCELLOR of the
ExclizQuza intends to take Five Millions per Annum
for the Sinking Fund.

The following is a summary of the military move-
ments in Venezuela to the date of the latest accounts:

General MORILLO, after uniting the corps of LA
TORRE, MORALES, and CALZADER, amounting to
5000 men, passed the Apure on the 25th of January.
General BOLIVAR, being anxioui to draw the enemy
into the interior, ordered his infantry to take post be-
hind the Arauca River, and the cavalry, under PAEz,
to harass his rear.

On the sth of February MORILLO passed the
Arauca, the inhabitants every where burning their
dwellings to prevent his obtaining shelter. MORILLO,
finding his supplies cut off, pushed forward 600 ca-
valry to collect cattle. They fell into an ambuscade
of PAzz's troops, and were all taken. This, we sup-
pose, is the action referred to in the American Pit-
pers, with some features of exaggeration. Mottuto
was by his advance situate in a complete wilderness,
without resources, more than 500 miles from Cara-
cas, and PAEZ, with superior cavalry, in his rear.
Five hundred British volunteers in the George
Canning, Tartar, and Perseverance, had arrived at
Angustura, and with them General BoLIVAR would
proceed to the. Apure.
On the Atlantic coast, which Mottrum had left
bare of troops, an attack was expected from Mar-
garita, protected by a large naval armament, and
with combined British and native troops. This would
place MORILLO in an awkward situation.

Commodore JOLT was cruizing off St. Bartholo-
mew's and Porto Rico.

All the dispatches announcing the death of the
Queen of SPAIN, and the views of the Cadiz Expedi-
tion fell into bands of the Patriots, by the capture of
the brig of war from Cadiz to Rio Janeiro.
A British sloop of war from Mai garita is dal)), ex-
pected in England. A steam-boat has been eita-
bliihed from Trinidad to Angustura.

We subjoin some farther extracts from the Ame-
rican Papers last received :

'NORFOLK, APRIL 7.

The General Alligas privateer was yesterday
brought into this Port from Seven River, where she
had put in under the charge of an Officer of the Re-
venue cutter Munroe, Captain Ham, and was deli-
vered over to the custody of the Marshal, in conse-
quence of information of an attempt on the part of
the crew to smuggle. It appears from the accounts
of some of the crew that on the Fit of December,
1818, they captured a large ship, from Liverpool
bound to the Brazils, and plundered her of every
article of value. In the same montiN they capttired
a Portuguese brig of war, the Giovanni, from Rio
Janeiro bound to Pernambucco, and took from her a
large quantity of money in boxes ; one box contain-
ed 2176 dollars.

NEW-YORK, APRIL to

The ship Ruth and Mary, arrived here from Lis.
bon, has brought to our Merchants 268,000 dollars
in specie.—By the last advices, four brigs and a
schooner had arrived at Havannah from Vera Cruz,
with 1,500,000 dollars, in specie, on bawd.

A letter from Wilmington (North Carolina), states
that information was received there on the 31st of
March, that a Portuguese ship, of 700 toes, prize to
some privateer, had stranded near Beaufort, that
the ship had gone to pieces; but that most of her va-
luable cargo, consisting of cochineal, cottons, teas,
hides, indigo, &c. had been saved. The '
Xuffse
Consul, on receiving the above inforznation, imme.

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hat the present • mode of drawing had put to..elvs piecseseasto the other. Mr. &. was loudly called,
1 the evils Of insurance. bet be baps his Ma, to inafital album taking piste,,
.YTTLATON replied. It milk ha, hapanis lietilesarcair pet dot opiptiisoombisii dimmer ly the HsPe •
ins to attempt to ,tidd any thing la thle4Or: Woad no was diabetic illosen rt mas Vim for tboamansa
I just arstuntnts whirl the Hotssehad heard nieelsie viikk•side Mattis majority, but ea thobstaat Mr.
the Lottery. He had not appeakd to the Pi eukare edge. K was hareem observed,. that the viatica
F the Right Hon. Gentleman, or founded his having been pet and beamed, no Member ebuld renew the
A on his character as a man of piety and debate. - Some argument took place on this, duAbg which sera
He had purposely abstained from sitch ap- rel Members gm Into the House before the division, and joined
id he wished it to be so understood. The In It. This Is contrary to rho rulo • fnr ehnnellp it I. rant p,..ratp.ry