Star.
London, England, 1817-05-14 00:00:00

ARMY SiTIMATES.

Mr. BROGDEN brought up the Report• of the
Committee of Supply.
Mr. J. P. GRANT said, it was his intention to
submit an amendment, and it was, that the 24th of
September should be substituted fur the 24th of De-
cember. in the time for granting the Army Estimates.
His reason for doing this arose out of what he be-
lieved were the proceedings of the House. on the
'suggestion of the Noble Lord opposite (Castlereagh.)
He understood that when the Noble Lord moved for
the appcintment of a Committee up stairs, he said it
was impracticable to ascertain the public income and
amount of expenditure before the time at which The
Army Estimates mutt necessarily be voted. Tbi
was assented to, and the Noble Secretary at Wit

moved the Estimates for 'ix months only, and they !
*ere voted. accordingly. Here it was distinctly ac-
knowledged that it *as not .fitting *to rote the whole
year, but only some part on account, until the Com-
mittee had time to-report. If this was so, it eras 'ne-
cessary for the Gentlemen opposite to shew that there
was something in our situation now which there was
not when the estimates were voted for half a year.
' If they could shew that the House was in a diflerent
situation, either by the Report that had been pre-
sented, or from any other cause, then they would-be
proceeding in the proper course in agreeing to the
vote proposed, as far as time was concerned ; if not,
he could nut imagine how they were to account to
their constituents for so manifest an inconsistency.
The House would go to the discussion or. the Esti-
mates with their minds better informed, it they had
the state of their financial affairs before them. He was
of opinion that when the Report of the Committee
came, it would spew that there was Mile to depend
upon but the Sinking Fund for the support of our esta-1
blishments. If the Committee could report iminedi-11
ately, there could be no inconvenience in waiting for
that Report ; if it was nut to be expected so soon,
why not vote the Estimates fcr a less time than was
now asked, but still long enough to include the ivriod
at which the Report would err tainly be presented ?
When so much greater force was asked for now, than
was found adequate in 1792, it lay on the Gentle.
men opposite to make out a case. It he thought the
House ought to be governed by any Report, still he
should say the one formerly made was evidently
drew° on the principle of the speeches made on the
other side. It harped upon deductions from the war
establishment, but made no comparison of what
ought to be expected in similar circumstances of
peace. He did not mean to complain of the manner
of conducting the War Office, but he could not help
remarking that the statements in the estimates, with
respect to that establishment, were governed by the
sense wish to obtrude the apparent reductions on the
notice of the House, ccncealing the actual state of
the question on the whole &pet tment ; thus it was
stated, that a large sum had been reduced in one
branch of the service in the War Office, while in fact,
in another, there had been such au increase, as to
make the total charge for the whole something greater
than before.—( Hear, hear)..—With respect to the
army in France, it was said, that this count'', had
not been called upon for any expenses in its support,
but there was an item of ,e 500,000 for the Commis-
sariat of that army, which could hardly be said not
to belOng to the army in France. He was not one
who was ready to feel Merin upon every occasion,
when the consideration of the military establishments
came before them, that the Constitution- was in dan-
ger ; but he would entreat the House to pause and
consider, as had been said by the Noble Lord him-
self; they should do. What was likely to be the
situation of that country, which for a long period
WAS unable to rake a revenue sufficient to meet its
expenditure ? After a few more observations, the
Honourable Gentleman concluded by submitting his
amendment.

Mr. BANKES maintained that considerable ad-
vantage had arisen from the labours of the Commit.
tee above stairs upon the Army Estimates, and was
surprised that the Learned Gentleman should now
profess to disregard the labours of the Committee,
when be hod, on a former occasion, complained that
•1•••• :••••••••bralii.a• had not I~n carried far enough.
(Hear.) He did nut think that the responsibility of
Ministers was diminished by the Committee Repor-
ting on the Estimates, but certainly that Report
would recommend the Estimates to the adoption of
the House. From a full consideration of the subject,
he did not think the present Estimates too large ; at
the same time be gave no pledge for his future con-
duct on the subject, because he hoped that next year
some further reduction might be effected. (Hear.)
The Hon. Gentleman had treated the Committee with
some degree of ridicule, which he thought altogether
unwarranted. He was convinced that great industry
.had distinguished their labours, though it might not
appear so at the first glance. Numbers of offices
were to be examined, in which Tittle or no reduciieir
could be made ; fbr it was in the larger branches of
the service, and in the number of men, that the great
reductions were to be made. (Hear, hear.) This
had been always his opinion. It the Hon. Member
could lay his hand upon any part of the Estimates,
and say it could safely be dispensed with, let him
move that it by struck out, and prove that it was not
necessary to retain it, and the Honourable Gentle.
man should bare his vote, because he thought that
every rational and sale retrenchment should be made.
Mr. CALCRAFT could hardly trust his own ears
when he heard the Honourable Gentleman who had
just sat down approve the present heavy Estimates,
and recollected that he had opposed those of last year
most strenuously, which were not more extravagant
—(Near, hear). Surely the Honourable Gentleman
was most inconsistent, and had forgot his own pro-
fessions ; for last year he proposed a reduction of
35,000 men upon the Estimates, a number which he
(Mr. Calcraft), ardently as he desired reductions,
could not then venture to urge upon the House ; and
now, when Ministers have reduced but 26,000 in the
same branch of service, lie expressed his surprise that
they had seen able to do so much—(Near, hear).—
He wished to know why the state of the Finances
had not been produced ? and thought the discussion
on the Estimates should be deferred till the state of
the Finances was fully before the House—(Hear).—
But what was the reduction which had wrought such
a change in the opinions of the Honourable Gentle-
man, and called forth his eulogy ? Why, in the Esti-
mates of last year, 149,000 min were voted ; and
now 123,000 rank and file, which, with the Officers
(and he maintained that not• to take them into the
account was only to perplex the discussion)—with
i the Officers then there were 140,000 required at the
present time—(Hear, hear).
00
he thoupht that
I a reduction of 10,000 rank and file could be made
without the-least inconvenience, which would leave
' 30,000 men more in the•hands of GoveMment than
was voted in the peace of 1792. It might be said by
the Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite
.that the various
amounts of men were necessary on the several esta.
blishments, but he contended that .the state of the
Finances should have some influence in their decision.
The motion which he should have tolubrnitto the
House would be. for the reduction of tep thousand
men, and he demanded.a fell esplanatiim, shoving
that the Prate 'Establishment :which -woulertemain
was necessary—(Hear, hear). It seemed that' the

Naby ifas tc be Torgotten, *Wen, t'Onnect*d ilia!: the:
'instilat situation of the kingdom, *rendered a smelt
minary-es!ablishment quite sufficient for our sventity.
Besider, the authority which this counly had acquir-
ed in the affairs of the Cootinent, mast (testier all
fears of a ntces:ity arising a- a plC:it mditary
blishrrient. He believed that it was now
on all hands, that taxation had a great deal to .so
with the distresses of the country ; the people
not live, walk, eat, or Lle, without be'ng aft.' creed by
its tfitich, ai.d it was the ditty of the House to lessen
the burthen as oincli as possible.
Mr. F. ROBINSON complained, that whater..
course his Majesty's Ministers pursued, whether be
Committees er without Committees; the Gentleakn
opposite uniformly raised robjact;qor to the mode of
pioceeding. The Honourable Gentleman had said,
that lie should propose to diminish the anioeot of
tioops fur the present year, by taking riff ten thousand
men, but he had not sold the Honse where he send&
take them fr in, nor how lie would distribute
number which remained—(Hear, hear).—The Ho-
igitable Gentleman then went through the varic,ss
items of force, maintaining that they were respec-
tively necessary i'or the mien:lista:lce.; of the times.
There was a small increase or lorce at Gibraltar, and
at Botany Bay, and indeed he was surprised that 850
men was considered sufficient for the latter Colony,
when the fact was, that the population had increased
five fold within a few years, and the people, as might
be supposed, were not the most remarkable for their
prompt obedience to author ity—(Hrar,hear).—Then
there was the Leeward Islands, in which a small in-
crease had taken place, which was justilie,! by the al-
tered circumstances 41 that part of the world. H LAVIN
forbid, that lie should use a single argument %vitro
should seem to impugn the policy of the Slave Trade
abolition, for the first vote which lie had given in th
House was in support of that measure ; but he contd.
not see a powerful State growiirg up in the West /r...
dies, composed of black people, without thinking
some precautions tiecer.sary against A probable, then
perhaps remotes danger—(Rear, hear).
Sir WILLIAM BURROUGHS couli not allots
this oppotionity to pass, although he had delivered
his seirtiments last night without expressing his de-
cided opposition to the extraordinary amount of these
Estimates. The country, he observed, had now been
at peace two years, and yet the amount of the esta-
blishment Was greater than at the close of any war
previous to the last. The Honourable Gentleman
had said to the Gentletnen on his side of the Home,
" If these Ectimstes are too great, shear us how they
caii be reduced ;" but the lshble Lord and his frient3
had on right to call t.pon them to state the b.stimates
which the circtinictai:Ci3 of the country wouirl justify.
The onus nnb.zneli lay upon his Majesty's Miassters to
demonsttate the necessity to every man of the whole
number which they asked for. The Honourable Bt.
ronet then e 3 nut through the various items, comparing
them with those of and contended that sloe
amount WAS greater than could be either ler:mayor
defensible, he should therefore vote fur both the
amendments seliich had been named to the

Mr..l. 0 RAN 1 thooe,ht the estimate for Jamaica
not sufficient to prott et the imp crtant interests of that
colony. In addition to the great black empire in the
West Indies, becoming an object of jealousy to t!:e
colonial Government, a new light had show! upi:,:t
die negiors, and they had been taught to diszucs po-
litical subjects ; so that he was afraid the number f
troops proposed for those colonies, would not he suf-
ficient to maintain that imposing appt•arance which
was necessary to keep the negroes in subjection.
-Lord MILTON was not surprised, that the Flo-
nourable Gentleman should have betrayed so :nue%
interest in the affairs of the West Indies, and his isist
was a natural one; he desired that a greater number
of troops should be employed to protect the property
in Jamaica. But this leas an English questioa, arid
he would ask why was there a force to be kept up
now which was twice the amount of the Peace Litab-
lishment of 1792 ? He objected to the gener..l Asper.
of the military establishments, which tended to imese
a spirit of war among the people, and added consi-
derably to the great influence of the Crown. T:.e
Ministers had taken credit to themselves for reducing
the estimates to their present amount, and they cer-
tainly were entitled to ;raise so far. Perhaps. is dear
the Right Hon. Gentleman felt that it would be
aiding him in his fioancial arrangements, to be sti onglY
urged to make reductions. It would operate again.%
A certain species of influence, which WAS At work to
keep up the establishments, and which might per-
plex the Right Honourable Gentleman in has roan:
lions and his ministerial duties—(/lean, L.x.)
maintained, that it a liberal policy se.is ad,pted
wards Ireland, taking Catholic Ens incipatisio AS li-e
basis, it would not be necessary to keep such dA
amount of force there. In England, if a mitchiery
spirit was abroad, it inieht best be put down by t'
police and the yeomanri of the kingdom ; and fliers
fore he thought the amnuot of force proposed
England, was much greater than 11:c necessity ti
the case required. On ali these grounds he stiouel
support the motion for reducing the number of troop,.
but could not support the motion for contracting
period for which :he vote was prop sod.
Mr. PEEL said, that he bad done every thing
his power to reduce the number of troops in fre4inil:
!sot he was not to say to the Magistracy of that colter!
that he could not afford to crop! iy the efficient meet
to suppress tumult and insubordination, became, in
the military establishment, he most abide by the pre:
cedent of 92. He denied that the establishment
1792 wasa fair traction by which to jihlgo what saos
• necessary now. The circumstances of the tint s arc
the habits of the people being different to wino t!sc:i'
were- then. He had looked through the amount of
force kept in Ireland, for the last 1(X) years, arl
found that in no instance was it so low as at the peg':
of 92. He did not •a•isli to go into the discussion. of
the Catholic Qitesi ion, which had been alluded to
the Noble Lord, but he would resist the import:es
that was cast by implication on the G•svernment.
the Noble Lord, who seemed to insinuate, that alai:'
army was kept up :n Ireland fr r tie purpose of !vitt!'
• ing the Catholic peop:e in subjection—(*4r, he.)
!• The fact was, that the army was employed in the!
protection, to save their property and theruselv.-sfr"r‘
• destruction.—o(Hear, was not to silue.s
rebellion against the Government that au army 0%4'
I necessary, but to counteract the plots and destroy ti`''
combinations which were made against ptivate -
viduals. When, as was the case a she t time aFe
.
in one of the counties of Ireland, tent;; *:;0'

arm's for the diabtlical Or*** a setting Ike to
tie premises of an individual who had .bccoliie °b-
ran:Vitt to them, by which six lives had been lost.-
0,0,, nee r scary to have et strong force to guard the
~e es tind property of the subject. It could not be
osoecte.l that o.e Irish Government had any Secret
ev-tori• fir wishing VI keep up the number of the
12.:.t.1uv.i,ms had, in tact, been made in the
• Anti s..ane eednom;cal arrangements had
i,orraduced. The Right Honourable Gentle-
• %yds procresling to state them, when it WAS ob.
vreve, ac: ass the table, that the statement had
to do with the question then before the
lime. I-le zepl:ed, he ;crew it had not, but lie had
u it to she w that the imputation which was con-
u.rown upon his Majesty's Ministers, namely,
..!,t o:'v !.ip large establishments for the pur-
incre.oing the patronage and infloence of the
Ai entirely unfounded. (I/ear, hear.) This
r al argument always resorted to when others
f. lei.. but was too ridiculous to make any implession
• ff • ti.e.

Mr. I'ONSONBY felt it necessary to comment
fn the !perch ot the Right Honourable a:nth-mai, j
tire grezi.test circumspecti,in, because he wat.
mat he bad to deal with the most inflJential
member on that side of the House—(Near, hear.)-1
He recoVected that the RiAlit 11..tenirable Gehtie.
man had tint a former occasion described the unhappy
state ot Ireland as he had done now, but what liss
tia: to do uith the preseia question He had not
heard a single individual complain that tlif amount
forte for Ireland was tut large—(llear, hear, from I
f,,:4ram) It was in England that the Estab!iShd
meir, was greater than the cilcurnstances of the times
&mantled : there was not a single Ciaitinental State
.t7cfn which this zionntry had any thing to appreheni.
France was in the military possession of d.ia country,
sod could not injure ; Spam, with her wretched Mo-
Larch, was not to be dreaded ; and hot one of the
>Leman Powers was likely to rise superior to our
military or naval authority. But ilien it was said
that the state of England required that a military
:trite sitould be maintained, to check the bail spirit
slab prevailed. Non, though some of the manta
factoring districts had been disturbed, and a few infa-
tuted men had been caught in the snares of the de-
no*, he denied that there was any radical or ex-
trtrive disaffection among the people—any bail spirit
shich required an army to subdue, which could not
to restrained by the proper Civil Audio' ides (Hear.)
He admitted the necessity of the force estimated for
Ireland ; but it was because that country was ill-go.
retard. It Ministers would preserve their vicious
seem viey must pay for it. l le was alarmed at the
mintier in which a military spirit was favoured and
gained ground -a spirit which would change the nit-
Alai character—extinguish the love ut practical
heedorn, which was not only our greatest glory, but
our greatest power. Why was a military college
kept up in time of peace? - (Hear, hear)— Phis he
considered useless and pernicious, and he would con-
fidently ask the Duke of Wellington, at the bar of
the House, whether he thought the spirit or discipline
tat the army improved by its being officered from a
military college ? He had no doubt the Duke of
Wellington would answer in the negative. Let the
House ccmpare the military with the naval service—
that service to which we owed.our glory, wealth, and
power. How did the fact stand ? An estimate is
;imposed for the Military College, but an inquiry..is
proposed into the state of the Naval Asylum, with a
view to reducing its resources. If this preference of
:fie military service Was encouraged by the House,
they would one day repent it—(Hear, hear)-He
would also say,. if the House sanctioned the mal-
administration of Ireland they would repent it. What •
a picture did the Esttmates present ot the temper of
his Majesty's subjects in all parts of the world ;-411
armed mice to repress dicoutent in Irelanti—an armed
force to quell sedition in England--an armed force to
knep down the black population in our colonies I but .
he ant not believe such danger existed at home or
abroad, and thereicre would reduce the estimate. He
would above all deprecate a system of assimilating
En3land to the Continental nations by making her
(archway military ; a nation essentially military could
cm, be essentially free.
Sir FREDERICK FLOOD would reduce the
foment Ireland ; but tor the irritating vote on a For-
tner sight Ireland, he said, was comparatively quiet,
Stiiiht England was in a state of rebellion. The
these population, with the exception of only a few
Clinks, as in die County of Louth lately, was quiet.
nit. number of dimes in England was greater,
though nobody talked aboit them. Why should
cot they talk ot murders and robberies in England as
well as in Ireland ? (i//augh.) What had Ireland
done ? (Aloud laugh, occasiosud by Mr. Bahia spring-
ing from hi: seat, to avoid the vehement gesticulations of the
hras.Baronetabovehim.) The meiisui ea of the Right
Hon. Gl:nue:inn (Mr. Peel) had done good in Ire-
land. He caLed them protecting laws, which said to
every one rs be quiet." ( laugh.) In fact, he looked
forward to the tranquillity of that country being soon
tally restored. Tue opposition to the Catholic
Chums was every year diminishing, and he had no
doubt it would wholly disappear in 1718. (4 laugh.)
Mr. CAREW would trust the security of Ireland
not to an army, but td her own population, as Al, a
tinnier well known period.
nr. J. P. GRANT withdrew his motion to make way
for that of his Honourable Friend (Mr. Calcralt).
Mr. CALCRAFT moved that the Restdution
should be recommitted, with a view to his moving
the reduction of 10,000 men iu the estitnate, that be..
(on the suggestion of the Speaker) the only way
ja which the amendment could be proposed.
Lord EBRINGTON was surprised to find that
faelatul was disturbed, Mier the description of its,
I.7.6quillity by the Noble Lord when he moved the
!eta. on Bills; and again he thought it matter of sur-
Prise, that when the Noble Lore on a former evening
proposed a measure of conciliation, it was iesistld by
the Right Honourable Secretary (Mr. Peel). These
*etc strange anomalies. He understood too, that
this WAS but the prelude to worse enactments.
Lord CASTLEREAGkI said, that when he said
11 was not necessary to suspend the Habeas Corpus
Act in Leland, he nevev said that other remedies
alight not be wanted, he never contemplated a re,
duction of the army there. He stated, that the Irish
elivernment cooperated in reducing the military
expense. As to the Colonies, some had been an.
!e?ititl but recently, and were as yet unused to -Eng-
*'4ll laws and habits; and even if they were, ituai

' tthe distance.veluction theft,' as propoted. wbuld be
impracticable; Of the lore, for Ireland no one scarcely
disapproved. and 26,000 men, Or ab int 16,900 ef-
tecCve. Was not too ~tich, man leaving out the slate
of this 'country, fun- England.
Mr. 1). BROWNE opposed the motion.
On a divisl'in there .opuitied for the amend-
ment 56—Against it 111—M +nit y t;S.
The other Resolutions were then agreed to.

LorrEillEs.
The CHANCELLOR uf the EXCHEQTTER
moved that the Committee on i.ei L'itteries 1111
should be postponed till to-onniaow.
' Mr. LYTTLETON wished die Committee to be
gone into now, as he knew of 119 other business of
importance that was about to come betore the. 'loose.
The CHANCELLOR of Vie EXCHEQUER
obj.tcted to the Committee being gone into, as a ques-
tion of some importance was expected to be raised
nn one of the Bills Sounded on the Report of the
Finance Committee that night.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, it was not intended to
raise the question adverted to by the Chancellor of
the Exchequtr.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
on understanding this, could have no objection to Lo
into tl:e Committee.

The House then went into the CA-no:ince.
Mr. LYTTLETON proposed that the preamble
of the Bid should run thui—'' Whereas it has been
thought expedient to replenish the Public Purse, by
turning to ai.count the vces of the people ; aod
wher:as gambling is one of the vices which our an
CtSl:.l'i thought it their duty to discout age ; and as
nuthing tends to stimulate the pi•ople us indulge in it
So 11911:3 as Lotteries, May it please your Majesty,"
Scc.--( 4 laugh.)
Mr. BROGDEN said, the proper time for moving
this preamble would not arrive till the Home: had
gone through the clauses in the body of the Bill.
Mr. Llf 1 hLr. VON wi?hdrew the preamble for
the present. He afterwards moved .t variety ol
amendments ; one of which went to substitute 40,0c0
tickets for 60,000, 19 the filling up of the Bill. By
another he endeavoured to fix the prices at which the
tickets should be sold. On this a discussion arose.
He afterwards moved several amendments. which
were put and negatived. Oa one clause for deter-
mining the price at which tickets should be slid,
after some discussion, in which Mr. W. Ssirrii, the
CIIANCELLOR of the EXCUEQUEIttand Mr. 13itot.;;;tinxt
participated, Mr. LYTTLZTON took this opportunity
of characterising the presezt scheme as a scandalous
imposition on the public. At first he stated the tic-
kets to have been sold at £lB. 18s. and in sixteenths
at the rate of £2O. 16s. before the drawing COM-
menced. Now, alter two days drawing, in which
one-twelfth, instead of two-thirds of the whole num-
ber of tickets had been drawn, the price was advanced
to £22. 6s.—These Amendments were negatived
without a division.

Mr. BENNET thought the Dill ought to have been
printed ; and to give time (or the printing of it, moved
that the Chairman should report progress, and ask
leave to sit again.
On this question a new discussion arose. It was
finally negatived.
Isle. LYTTLETON moved, as an amendment,
that should be inserted in the Bill for WOO,
to be paid to the Bank for the management of the
Lottery. This and other amendments. which he sat).
sequently oared were nega.ived without a division.
The preamble he withdrew alter moving it, intend-
ing to bring it again forward on the third reading of
the 13i11.—The House resumed, and the Report was
ordered to be read dais day.

Mr. PONSONBI said. he would nut to-morrow put the ques-
tion which he had announced it to be his intention to ask re-
specting the Habeas Corpus Suspension Am, but he purposed to
du so on Thursday.
Mr. DA VIES EAT brought In Bills (oi:ire:tasting Oakes
in tile Exchequer, and for enablitig his ivlsjesty to grant Cunt-
&mat ion fur mcrituriuus Services.
They were severally read a first, and ordered to he read a se-
cond time—the first on kiiday, the others on Monday.
The other Orders of the Dry were disposed ut, and
At One o'Cluck the House adjourned.

THE EVENING STAR.

LONDON.

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'the Report of the Committee of Supply, or. the I
Army Estimates, was brought up last night in the
House of Commons. Mr. J. P. GRANT made a pro.,
position that they should be voted only for three
months, in order that the opinion of the Committee of,
Finance, on the state of the Income and Expenditure
of the Country, might be known before any defini-1
Live attangement was adopted. After a good deal
of discussion, the proposition wa: witlidta..en. Mr.
CALCILAVT then mawd for a recommitment of the
Estimate.' s with a view to a specific reduction of
10.0(0 men, but, on a division, the motion was lost
by a majority of SS.
In answer to a question from Mr. Possosnr, Lord
CAbTLEREAGII informed thei House, that it was not
the inteotion of Government to fill up the tacant
office of Chief Justice of Chester, until the Committee
appointed to inquire into the administration of the
Laws in Wales, bring up their Repart.
Notice was given by Mr. Pocsonitv;that he would
to-morrow (Thursday) ask cf Ministers, whether it
is their intention to move, during the present Session,
for a renewal of the Suspension of the Habeas Corpus
Act ? The result will be looked for with anxiety ;
and whatever it may be—whether affirmatory of such
intention or not—it cannot fail to produce the most
lively sensation in the country.
In the House of Lords a determination was last
night.expreised by 1.44 Ettscniz, on the subject of
,Lord Sugropriel Circular, which will serve is some

degree to alleviate the pnblic cl:stpperintmcnt at
fate cf Earl -Ganes Motion on the preceding eve}
jug. In order to ascertain distinctly the state of the
law, he iiitimated that he would move on a future
.!ay fur all precedents of commitments for libel by
Justices of the Peace on which rec-guizatice 4V411 tn
tared in the Court of King's B?rcl•, or at the Court
of Sesitins, and also of tl:e Indictments fnund un
them. As the Noble Lord jurtly observed, publi.:
opinion must be the ride of. Parliament, and w,:
have no doubt that every eiscussion upon the nwrits
of the Circular, will place in a still clearer point of
view, the fallacy of the grlunds on which the law it
would promulgate, is attempted to be titablislied.