Star.
London, England, 1829-02-06 00:00:00

roc pliMeLleki f.eren the Theonaitseit. S..ch a measure
of grace and favour (emanating as it did from the King,
Was one admirably calculated to allay the angr n4l
disturbed spirit, which for so many years had
halm. The respoosibility of the action would rest w'
the Monarch. and,this. fact would meet the obiectioik
which were fallacinthly started against further cones-
: )ittiM„Ylith respect WI the Oda; tnithit: *lt liidui=
thank said bad; been allotted ro transpire before at-
dratiiiii was diticterito the subject, he must say, that
.•Psiheipliii ispou which the Aderloittetion *A;
• framed, were sich se to prohibit that possibility of the
Onvernment obtaining sh desirable an end. lliete was
llciivided Cabinet whenreei the stibject was bleluglit.
. forward; bht the question hitting grown into tine bl.
paramount imponince,-(Heat) became iittperi.
tree that sensething shotild he done. The esistirig
Members of his Majesty's Gneertisient knit the ibelitig
*hieh wet then abroad; and to plead itttiorance of the
ceases, would only be aggrivatitig the eta. With a
full c•rovietints of the de is importance- attached to a
- settlernent of the Catholic Question, he; for one, would
reetatithend an itnntediate considetation of the subject,
• a d would advise his Majesty's Government tri lose no
time.in bringing forward measures; which 4 ould pee.
mote, if not final!, obtain, eh amicable adjustMeht.
Lord FARNHAM thcits;ht it highly linportant that
• no Mistake should go (wield as to the ultimate inten-
tions of his Majesty's Ministers. The people of Eng.
land, from one end of the lend to the Other, eXpeCted
that the attention of the higher quitter would have
been called to tbe subject; and although these had
not been an universal espression of sentiment, yet
from the implicit teliinte which their had iir the
Noble Duke at the head of his Majesty's Gofernment,'
they were daily expecting he wtitart come goeoraeJ
without notice. The Noble Lord gave:the Address
his hedrty concurrence. He Was partichlarly plesised
with the promptness With which Ministers had di-
. rected their attention to the state of Ireland. The
Speech of our Savereign was calcdlated to call forth
evert expression of admiration (torn his subjetts ; but
if there was a part which could be Considered objection-
able; it was that which related to the Catholic Associa-
tion,fir in his opinion that aboMinable Institiiticier ought
to haws been put down years agrt• (Cheers). The P4l ha.
nicht was *tong ht passing thefittniy Act *loth it did ;
- it ought to hats interposed the strong arm Of the hi* to'
put the A•rociation down: Referring io the Stu MI which
kheir Lordship& hlt4 that day the pleacureof heating, he
• would ask of his Majesty's Ministers to tell bids openly
Whether they intended to put d•rwn the Asiocietiort
' before they proceeded to remove the disabilities under
which the Catholic* laboured ? Thar they inteirdid tei
do so was the construction which he put dpdn that past
of the King's Speech to which he al:uded. If not, he
would ask, what was the line of sectirity which they in
tended to chalk out? • He hoped they would not-insult 1
- the public mind, by offering such securities.as those
dispersed throughout the Test and Carreatioti Acts.
It he (the Noble Lord) *as a Domed Catholic, Pith!
• each poster as was there granted, hr. would do ill thef
be could to eject the Protestant Bishops froM tlceir Mod
in that House-,-(Laughter). He abuld, These* • ad.'
vise the Noble Doke to be cartel its the' mean re 4 hich
he might have to propose; but wherever those Measures
night be, he hoped that would be pesmarientr add
brought forward inalatielie.
The Marquis of DOWNSDIKE expressed great se:
tisfaction at the course which the Noble Duke at the'
head of the Administration had adopted. He looked
forward with great earnestness to the exult. He war
aware that they stsciold have many west diffi older to
contend against; but he was aho fully of opinion, that
it they entered upon the quction with an honest deter:-
minationfo go fearlessly through with ii, there would
exist no difficulties so intricate but what alight be over.
come; and a subject of vital importanie to the best in-
tants of the Sister Kingdom amicably arranged.
The Marquis of ANGLESEY said, the me-cure eon-
tensi.Lited involved the tranquillity, the safety, the
prosperity of Ireland, and, he might well add, of the
emphe—(Hear). He had intended titling the seter
tion of that L rdshipr to a subject connected with hit
sudden tecall from the official svustion he held for tin
months its It eland. A charge had been iubieit.e'tly
brought against him of having rued in a mother in
consistent with his duty as the King's representative in
Ireland. This was a very seriourcharge, aid he might
bare expected to have had an opportunity of defending
himself before an open tsibural. He had, treweetri
been disappointed in that expectat a. He wished' to
impress on. their Lordships that he courted inquity.-
.that he asked the closest investigation—that he was
perfectly ready to vindicate himself on every possible
point—but that he would .not intrude himself on the
public attention at a time of so nsuchimportance a's'
the present. This, he Writer, n add not penitent him (roar
being at all timer ready to meet every inquiry; the
closer the investigation might be made the mot r certain
should he feel of obtaining an honourable acquittal. He
would again express his gratification that-- something:
must be proposed with a view to better thecondition or
Leland. He hoped that *Wavier war done Would not-
be done ungracionsly—(Hear)—niggardly, or; as it
were, with antroviilling.hasol—(Heae, hear): He hoped'
it would be a measure worthy a liberal Legi..lature and
calculated to benefit a high minded, generous. long-
suffering; and purely loyal people-a(Cheess)t H.
wood offer one word aid e. in comiguence of what
had . fallen from one of their. Lordships. It might
be considered a sante* hat difficult grotto& ftr him'
to venerate Open: He was not-sure thee three might'
not be someamongia their Lordship. who might' al Most'
meditate him as a member or the Associat' to which'
he was about to adereet-4A laugh): lie could, how.'
every assure their Lordshipr thin he was- tiot, *hater-et'
-might be their suspicion... lie tenrembered 6i.te Att.
dog into difficulty by making dseof r snakily pheasel;
lindhefearedthat Whit he dieriost about mutter nsigho
-be Considered to. smell tither ton strong. of the shdjl';
but in battle the fen was' the least satisible-uf danger.
ix- waila fact that the neater you weal tether enemy,
and therefore the !teeter the dauger that &hereunder&
you, the less you atripeared. ttiencounter. Solt wris'utith'
tbate "fhb lived Whelan& Thou.gb he bid bee& in
•iire- heat of tho'couHtil for ten- mohtlisi• be had been
Athableto obseeve the danger that wit! said to shrround
esitn. The qinsticitestrhich beptit•erevi. Irthe.Catholie
Awnti' tioelegmicor is•it Mar Hr stated Most net.:
•qteVberdly thatif any' body wbuld'peirit our that Of
-AsOrtiatitel Witilleteitk and thatktfleiefote; it.was es.
pedient co put it dor/no-he could have done it siitheut
the slightest-defficaltp. 'het it ie diienritilindettithoO-
isedy cotild'doubtebdt not illegal. Wet itatii Wender,.
however, that .stichlaif Autreistion *redid e'kist;• ea&
dieing the priv di Hams of the Iftsh? But, if iv *ea wislird
tes!stroptess shit 660.14' teeth& recommend tethirsit•e
Bill that wettici'dis it nit eke:, Let' their' LOOMIS',
Ming a Menthe siting. to' the Cathelicr political' ' Uhl
tit! with' tiseielitetliredt die Priadstandr; and hash Id
antaVer cot it they wohldiitkeei heiteagiliiiof• die
lie kssokiadelfehlietl-'. • '
'fittest* GODitittil "ignct nit Desikti.ciii thel

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Lordships saaecessar abbot be seat Osten he was wiry
that the times Speech was Dot as explicit a he_fetild
with on the subject rf off ielatioo with f - 'ir Milt,
mit
He ticipat4o some light Wabldhave been i iSdin- MC
dill of Risco • lad was also much disappoinard
He
aided cher Ea He hoped:hat the Noble Lord at
actilf +afore' Departntent we% prepared rd sigri
,eii. Cbrdships the itiflittfiwion which was so ankh
granted. r 6 the i4hie peril of the It lial Siiiiith hi was
prepared to giirthis hem 4 approbal; It Oak rivt their the,
time to enter into a general di.cusbion oldie qoebtion. but
1i dint 110. el a UWE; i fi iihd to the esitlii;l:e'b. that he 1
*at liddild tdetcheii the high sense Whitt tie enteltained
of the Megidies *filth Mile piopmed. Ile thotighi Shit
thitikeihscinetwhith exited dirt Int theAtirflinith.licin
lif a IEI4 Ittentid Motile L .rd (LiSerObol) steie ibch 11
tel gittficiently jititift the delif isllith hid tiikeil ithiti:
thOtb • dillikaltit4 now no Irtiriter iti;tid:z.the Krill&
Which obis tired the honk it 'reit disjierbitig; and die
:gbh *hold toot, bdrit toi ill ih iti theticlieb inlelidkbi.
He hailed the detetittiniiitiii df his Sliiitiiri Gtisiiii
mint di a blesSid event; AM, self corivineed that it

would go to to tote 4rangdifHiy td siveis ritillti fit df
'pedrile. 'He h,id t;effer keit a palrij tH 'His dieisure.
bat bola a thotaagh conVietiiiii tit its ;Wifelike, he
oht nid support it is the ccin;aintilatiiiii tee&
which sfonld hr;rig the voice of COnsloit td coitiplaidibg
nitiltitadei. W o theft *OW rilitsi his isiistatiite,
it vete *sitting, td join in bonds bf titititk Mid 'Hifi&
ship the people ofwhat hitherto hail been a digiad6d
and disarmed Ifigt..cidi? The Ciitholie AsioclitiOn
hid been made the sabject of rernati NIA .*liribst
all site Noble Lords Who hid pteeidkl hint. It. was
ditteftde scitcely necessary for him tti tint iity thing
further thin to aikse: with a Noble blatgoiii, th it
when (ht. PArliartient tea. propited, by a bokin, to inni-
hiliti alt it wnblJ he worse thin f .14 to :it-
tempt to pia t tinier* by lair. It wii tidiCulohs t • piss a
11.0146. i ensct Mint for the &slag awit Of diet 'Mich
wilbld die tit itself. He seriOld say, that when the,
granted ConceitiOn to the Catholics, their Lordships
would fake isily the' Oita' air Upon which the Assn.
atilt* existed. Wnit Cola of the Cathulie
Hint when the HOuset Of Lords and Crididions Were
open for the Catholics to enter and to take their lefts?
(Cheer J. He wool., give his support id Ole' nit /eine
wheitevei the Noble Doke might think it prudent to
firing the measure tot Ward, and Would not hesitate in
tell that distingoiihed and illaati,ioc • jWaiiidoisd, that
r tNe effeet of -itch a Step would be io tiffeet the grittiest
!goo! tecof.l._ _ _ _

The Earl of ELDON wit Still of opinion that con.
cesi od tb the C.tholics Could not be Midi withriat Great
,pli-judire to the best interests cif the periple of lira
it was with this feeling that he lulikd with vinerift •
the Ms intiry of a deceased Lord, sthci alwaYa Maintained
the Beate line of coniiiienci thratighnit the peribd
kink and brilliant Adininsiration. fie was sorry tl
the Ishii I ne of Comistiniy Was;. in more than deity
stance; departed front.
Earl BATIItIRST aspersed that he had nee& ifilta
that it aititild be intpciisidle to hit* tai Cabinet Air fill
mit divided or. the :able& Of Cathode
The /3 'le of NEWCASTLE dititild enter Itii deCiddri
Orrice* at last ihift part the *I4CA related
the CdthOlk atifttst**. That pirt of the Speech of fill
Precedent Of firs:tWifi Conned. rifich implied (fit
their Lordships shad uicrde to the Catholic CltieifiAili
,becvmse it was teethrithended froth the Throne, lorrried
to his Mind a strong reason v hi the Houel should reject
it. In hit opiniiai,.thii recommendation from the Throne
was the yeti geotind on WWII' the Houie ought to re-
ject the piroposednieisttre. The
oSoeereign was a Pro-
testant King of 'a Protestant Constitution, and any
recommendation' from the Throne of a measure cal-
- to endanger that Constitution should lie mote
vigilantly watched and opposed, beCaute it Was do re-
'Commended. The Constitution needed the protection
al their Lordship; and he trusted they' Would reject
the propdsed measure at the yeti beginning, and thin
it would be seen how perfeetly;peri,ible it w.i in grant
the Catholic( what they reqii , and whet the Garin.
mein would wish to convey to them. fle hid hoped,
•the Noble Duke, •on whom their Lordship( hid relied
-sor their defender, Would still have been theit defender.
.1f he entered on a e. urse so dan) erou; he could tell
him that he toOld fait tionithat high siruition which
he Woe filled: If hi deserted his Gob and his country,
he would tall into disgrace.
• Lord ItEDESDALE said, in legislating no the sub.
ject, it became' the duty o! tf•eir Lordshipi to
ThC feeling throughout die Whol country Wis alarm s
-to ellty that alarm was the first Hind Most important
•thity of theLlislatote. It fiecanti thin; in conferring
-benefits' on the Ca. holies of lieland;. to proie to the
Protestants of England that their teigion should- not be
astailed. That it would be ats tiled there could not be
the slightest doubt; for What wad the language of that
link• of iniquity, the Catholk Assokiation? that the Pro-
(Matt Church of England right to be inept frino the
fAci of the earth! Would thetr Lordihiptittuut ptikti
to Ouch' men et thew ? He Was' convinced, upon' ;obi
deliberation, they Would not. lie, lot one, wduld op
pose any measure having :tiara dangerous tendency.
The Duke of WELLIgGION trusted that their
Lordships saw' no'suelt Oat cintie Of shear in that part.
;of his M Sr eerh- vt'hich timed!? hilted' 0.00 them'
to take certain subject's' m der clisideratiosi. HO nor'
felt' called upon' to entry into a ditailof
meitsthe das to be. imputed. His' Strjesty' Wad onlYei.
'pressed hit desire that their Loi'dthq,s tidief into
consideration the Condition of Liar K meld sitb--
jetts r abd' With retard to that' pittient poitittetiliich
hit Noble Friend bid alltrded, be titled' nit( alibi* die
:Mute th.t hir Itl• :st y. VoUl if al he
asl46ol4ll4Ednlisfent vtith thidigOity OrtiiitrivAidod
of the Patliaeelut. Hi thbothr la ii./Ctale Fain cf would
del him the justice to' th lie' Wi'uld eiOrt !this=
self to' ribvide for the pirtietilir to
.abicli he ailukted'orindk if Vie Noble. Loid "Vita C 4
tribute his useful assistance,hefhad rteitfOistkHd tikidlll.
the faVilitkting artintitinieiles Oich
Iteetitetitittittplited.- eletlie; artattrithittlif
,Loed'oittefdahawheis
the House.. Hertitiaild nliat idvek to Sid aim
his Nrible Mind cilt' tnia
301kiit' hosts the dl' die' Mitt, aft
Who had siciistd him' (the cif Vifellitieniq'
want of faith in talcint the cootie rtilif
*bold. et% !Alike tit ;Viand' the Noble'
.6614 rita hi' drikalect to' thif HbaW tibilititif
thit nbt at tripfetielf itaZeij to linVe 114'
*fatanon settliql? • lifeliatf, hi aifthittird; vilitfiftbi trrfial
latifelitsteinitiatidedikill.ciaißhilieclitiaidiJiblitan; bee% •
Of opinichisight- i mk tialfclitil'
iholtic,titgattise disthlthhit :Wild' tits aril lilt-
*tab hif Wait te6ll tibial If oillaritia al''
cistidtiel Ifs iftftdittifirthiV that traits fill tAorK hit)!
At' *H. A% • hat liiisdiili tinV
*ViaI:WEI **bide; • attliat, tl tif 'Rate iee,
teen let yi2im consider the suestipa di paaeonairl`:-Hi!'
!Nth* Pnefiethffitifthif thiitt Ma* rear nriif ed
Atli the piitteihliftl4 C di Udell
*WOW* did fereoltttioW 1061 - It thititiiiMiti
.t., &He relied* ifitlg td bd shlik gitiikaihitiatini-

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