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Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1852-03-23 00:00:00

FRIENDLY SCTCIETIES

On the order for the second reading of the Friendly
Societies Bill, Mr. SOTHERAN stated that it differed in no
important particular from the law which was passed two
years ago ;• but it had been deemed better to withdraw it,
and introduce another bill to continue the present act for
two years longer.—The bill was accordingly withdrawn.

,rtiof the Committees of Supply of Ways and

)nought up and agreed to.
DAY.—The Speaker took the chair at 12
. T. Bateson took the oaths and his seat

r Londonderry.
On the motion of Mr. W. PATTEN, 't was agreed that
e minutes of evidence taken before the Committee on

the Liverpool Corporation Waterworks Bill in the session
of 1847 be referred to the Committee on the Liverpool
Corporation Waterworks Bill.

Petitions in favour of the Pharmacy Bill were presented
by Mr. Hindley, from Staleybridge (3), Mossley, in the
county of Lancaster (2) ; from the physicians, surgeons,
and chymist..t Saudgate ; by Mr. Scholefield, from the
medical practitioners and chymists of Birmingham (2) ;
by Lieut.-Colonel Royle, from Frome ; and by Sir T.
Birch, from Liverpool.

MANCHESTER. AND SALFORD EDUCATION BILL

A debate of some length arose upon the second reading
of this bill, which was moved by Mr. BROTHERTON, who
stated that the measure had originated with the inhabi-
tants of those boroughs, amongst whom were three parties,
all desirous of promoting education, but who differed as to
the means, the bill being promoted by the party in favour
of a combined religious education, whilst only the advo-
cates of the voluntary system opposed the bill altogether.

—Mr. M. Ginsos moved, as an amendment, the appoint-
ment of a select committee to irquire into the state of
education in Manchester and Salford, and to report whe-
ther it was desirable to make any and what further pro-
vision for the education of their inhabitants by means of
local rates. Ile looked upon this as a very extraordinary
private bill. The reasonable mode of dealing with this
subject was by set`ling the general principles of a mea-
sure applicable to the whole community, and then to
allow particular localities to avail themselves, if they
thought fit, of the general provisions. So important a
change in public policy should be preceded by inquiry.
Independently of this preliminary objection, he disliked
some of the provisions of the bill, though not averse to
the supporting of education by local rates.—Mr. ROEBUCK
seconded the amendment.— Mr. WALPOLE, commending
the motives of the promoters of this measure, and de-
siring to assist them, thought the house should not sanc-
tion the second reading of the bill, but should adopt the
amendment, with some alteration. The rating clauses of
the bill would supersede the voluntary efforts of religious
bodies to contribute to the education of children of the
humbler classes, and the making all schools open to all
children was a principle the consequences of which should
be well weighed. There were other principles in the bill
which required consideration, and he recommended the
house, as the safest course, to adopt the 'amendment,
omitting the words relating to local rating.—Lord Jour;
RUSSELL agreed in the main principles laid down by Mr.
Walpole, and thought the promoters of the measure could
not do better than consent to the appointment of a cam•

mittee, and suspend the bill until the committee had made
its report. He concurred in the great principle contained
in the bill, that education ought not to be purely secular.
—Mr. CARDWELL complimented the promoters of the
bill on their meritorious efforts, and congratulated them
on their having elicited the commendations of the Se-
cretary for the Home Department and the noble lord.—
Mr. W. PATTEN having stated on a former occasion
that the bill was supported by all the clergymen of the
established church in Manchester, he now felt bound to
say that he bad received letters from three clergymen,
stating that they did not approve of U.—Mr. BROTHERTON,
after what had passed, would suspend the bill for a month.
—Sir R. INCUS objected to the, principle of the bill,
maintaining that the education of the people was a na-
tional concern, and ought to be conducted by the Church.
—Mr. Fox objected that the bill introduced a new prin-
ciple of legislation, that of extending church establish-
ments.—Mr. GIBSON consented to alter his motion as
suggested, and after a few remarks by the CIINCELLOR of
the EXCIIEQVER, the second reading of the bill was de-
ferred for a month, and a select committee was appointed.
Mr. J. BELL moved the second reading of the Phar-
macy Bill, the provisions of which ho explained and de-
fended. He proposed to refer it to a select committee.—
Mr. WALPOLE observed that the bill gave great powers
to the Pharmaceutical Society, and he hoped the commit-
tee would be very careful as to the wording of this part of
it.--The bill was read a second time, and referred to a
select committee.

Mr. TUFNELL obtained leave to bring in a bill to abolish
property qualifications for members of Parliament.
Aftersome further business, the hougeadjourned at half-
past 3 o'clock.

THURSDAY.—Mr. COGAN took the oaths and his
seat for Ktldare.

Petitions were presented* by Mr. T-rtylvoon, from
Manchester, against the Militia Bill, and in favour of an
veer penny postage. _ _

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Mr. ANDEMSON moved for a• return, in a tabular form,
of the whole of the registered steam-vessels of the united
kingdom on the Ist day of January, 1852; stating, in
separate columns, the following particulars :'—rat, vessels'
names ; 2nd, port of registry ; 3rd, date of registry ;
4th, registered owners ; sth, dimensions of vessels in
length- and breadth ; 6th, tonnage (exclusive of engine-
room),-and gross tonnage, when practicable, nistingnish-
ing vessels built of iron, and also vessels having screw
propellers ; and giving the aggregate number of vessels
and amount of tonnage (in continuation of Parliamentary
Paver No. 310, of session 1851).
On the motion of Mr. G. THOMPSON, a return was
ordered of the quantity of coals ordered and received for
the supply of her Majesty's naval service in all its de-
partments from the year 1832 to the year 1851 inclusive ;
stating the quantity delivered at each depot, the names
of the vessels from which the coals were. delivered, the
names of the contractors and the prices-at which the
coals were supplied ; similar return from the Ordnance
department ; similar return in reference to coals supplied,
for the Colonial department; and a similar return from
all public departments not included in the shove.