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wail to be In the inverse ratio of the mischief.. Me (Mr. Can- to a subject which eatmiato his knowledge on Satirday He io-
nise) thought Perliament bad no right to suppose that
azould &Mood that it was in deed to bulld Barracks in the Regret's
be uncandid of them to imagine an Administration le of Park for 437 men of the Life Guards, iu lieu of the Barracks in
such acts as those against which his (le Junes Mackintosh's) King-street, Portman-square. That fit Barracks should, if ne-
went to provide. He would repeat, that it was eessary,be built, he had no objection, nor had he any that the'
migh acts of the most monstrous moire that the Constitu- Regent's Park should be•the spot selected. But be thought the
~strongly provided. Let. the Right Honourable Mom- tering upon which those Barracks were to be erected rather
bee. (Mr. Canning) recollect the year in which the Act fur novel. The expense of erecting them was to be defrayed by
regulating proceedings in cases of 'High Treason was passed. annuity. The reason for this was, that the sum paid for the
It was passed in the reign of that great man who rescued this buildings ndw occupied by the soldiers was £5,400 a year.
country from civil and religious tyranny. The Ministers of Upon this sum the builders were to have an annuity for thirty-
King William, instead of resenting the introductian.of that. Act one years. So that, at live per cent. interest, these Barracks
as a personal attack. or . suspicion against them, considered it would cost £84,000 and upwards. Now, the Barr Aeks at Glas-
as an additional security for public liberty, and gave It their gow, for 349 men, was to cost the l'ublic £15,600; and those at
most cordialsupport. Upon the same principle was the Habeas Leeds, for an equal number, £28,250. And yet, though the
Corpus Act introduced ; it was introduced to prevent'arbitrary ground in the Regent's Park would clot nothing, yet.for an ad-1
•imprisonment of the King's subjects, nor did the then Mi- sktional 100 men, there would be an extra charge on the Public
nisters feel the introduction of such a measure as
,pointing of £60,000! His objection was not so much to the largeness of',
suspiciously at them. The Right Honourable hlember had the sum as to the principle. He thought this required explain-
urged, that if this instruction were not moved, his Majesty's tion. Nay, further, he understood that the Barracks were ac-
Ministers would have an opportunity of vindicating themselves, tually begun. If so, the Right linnourable Gentleman bad'
by abstaining from the exercise of the power vested in them.— much to answer for, as the House had not voted a single shil-
Now he denied that this would be the case. The evil of which Hug for the purpose, nor had Parliament even been consulted
he complained was not theoretical. it was certain. Those fu- upon it. It was said, that they had already voted the fa 5,400 ;
reigners came into this country with an imptession that Minis- but then, they had only vot;cl it for one year, and that, too, onlyy.
ters had the power of removing them. They saes such a power 'to pay the lodging money for the troops. .
daily exercised in their oivrt countries, and naturally imagine° The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Laid, he con-
that it would be similarly exercised here. This would produce sidered there was a good reason for accepting of the contract be-
a bias which would act in a hundred ways without any pessi- fore them. If the Regiment in question were to have beets re-
bility of detecting it. On this ground it was that he felt it no- moved from reindon, it might perhaps have been argued,. that
cessary to press the Resolution. so large a sum should not have been expended for their accom-
The third Resolution was then put. It was, ."
That this Bill mudatlon. But if any Garrison whatever were to be kept in
should not operate against any persons who have, or may come London, the Horse Guards surely ought to be preferred, be-
into this country to give evidence either for or against the Bill cause their good conduct was justly admired and praised. , It
lof Pains and l'enakies now pending against the Queen." was about eight years ago since a proposition for building a Bar-
Mr. CANNING said, Cat the Honourable and Learned tack for blot Regiment in the Regent's Park had been made;
Member had asked whether the Ministers then in office had felt the estimate of the expense amounted to one hundred and twenty
the introduction of the Habeas Corpus,or other tonstindidnal se-. thousand pounds. The estimate made by the Surveyor of the
entities' for public liberty, as pointing suspiciously at them? To Barrack Board, on the plan now proposed, did net amount to
this, be answered, No. But if any of those inquiries were in: more than seventy thousand pounds. The annuity proposed to
leroduced peeding an inquiry instituted by his Majesty's, %lids- be paid by Government to the Contractors of 1'5,400 for thirty
ters, and beating upon that inquiry, it would be a dtrerem case. one years, would amount to seventy thousand pounds, and after
That inquiry was likely to be of some duration, and to last at the expiration of that period, the Barracks would become the,
least a portion of the time while 'Ministers were in office (for 1 sole property ofa the Government, and the annuity. of course,
surely those persons most sanguine in their hopes of the dissolu• would cease. He allowed, however tbat the matter Was .not
tion of the present Administration, could not expect them to go publicly advertisett—(lfcor, hear). The Right honourable Gen-
out before this day sennight). Suppose, then, that suck a men- tleman then, in answer to a question put across the table, said he
sure was introduced pending and bearing upon an inquiry, and could not positively affirm whether thebuilding of the Barracks
founded, too, on the character of his Majesty's Ministers, it ter had actually'been commenced. He considered the contract as
tainly was not toe much for them to suppose that there was some extremely low, which he partly accounted for by the convenience
little circuitous intimation that something was levelled at them which the Regent's Canal afforded for bringing up the materials.
personally—(//eqe, hear). If his Majesty's Ministers-Were al- Sir J. NEWPORT strongly condemned a proposition of this
lowed liberty to act, they would have an opportunity of quelling sort beteg been introduced on a Saturday, and at the close of a
suspicion ; but if their hands were tied up, as they would. be by Session—(Hear, hear). He condemned the mode proposed as
the proposed clause, then they would have no opportunity of changing altogether the principle upon which the Country had
doing away with any insinuations thrown out against them! heretofore acted with respect to Barracks. The 'Right Mtwara
There was another point in the Honourable and Learned Merit- able Gentleman had said, that if the House should not approte
bet's speech, to which he withed to advert. The Honourable of paying an annuity of £5,400, they might build the Barracks
and Learned Member (Sir James Mackintosh) seemed to inn- at an expense of seventy thousand pounds; but the House bad
nuate that he (Mr. Canning) had adriaitted that the conduct of not determined to, build any Barracks at all; why, then, should
Ministers bad been ieconsistent. Let it, however, be recol- Ministers take it 'for granted that the House would approve of
lected, that the motion did not originate with Ministers. It the building of those Barracks ?he could not but protest against
was, in fact, the act of a majority of the House. It was said, Ministers taking the opinion of Parliament for granted 4,-fore
that it was their motion, and why? Because, in Het,.they the opinion of Parliament had been declared ; it was substituting
formed part of that majority; and why did they do so? Be- the will of a Minister for legislative enactment. Ile disapproved
cause they acted in the same spirit by which they were actuated of the system of building Barracks by annuity—ft was a principle
all through this difficult business. They had forborne to act which men resorted to who had not money to •advanee—it was
upon the information hr their possession, until pressed to do so an improvident principle, and ought not to be sanctioned. . -
by the miosacity of the case, aqd even then, they consented to a
Mr. WILLIAMS said, if Ministers would look at Cioydon
proposal made to them by the very best authority, in order, if . s . _
t, he might say, at the entrance of London, they would find
possible, so avert the necessity of this painful inquiry; and would Barracks
there, built at great expense, almost entirely empty,
to Gob that that proposal had been attended with the desired
and entirely useless.
tuccess. He was sure that it would have been much more con-
ducive to the peace and tranquillity of the country than the men- Mr. ELLICE could not but recollect that those Barracks
'sure now unhappily forced upon them. were to be erected in addition to the great extent of Barracks
Mr. SCARLETT,- in explanation, hoped that no expression which already covered the face of the country. The true res.
which had fallen from him in the course of his speech essuld lead son for building Barracks for troops was to overawe the
to the supposition that be wis sanguine in his expectations of the People by Military force—(Harr, hear): He entreated of the
House to reflect on the consequences which might follow the
dissolution of the present Administration. That be was anxious
that such a thing should take place. be did not deny, as, he was Barrack system—they might shelter an armed force, which Aid
anxious to see the Rountry governed in a just and equitable be turned as a means of attack upon the People. •He entreated
of for House to reflect for a moment—to consider how far eel'
manner. But no man was less sanguine on the subject than isim-
would go towards the creation and support of a Military Gs-
self, as he conceived it to be hopeless! He was of epithet that
vernment, which they might afterwards vainly deplore, as fatal
the present Administration would not dissolve until they had
dissolved the.country—(ffear, leer, hear)—and that then would to the liberties and happiness of their Country. As to the finan-
find persons to support them up to the period when theboantry cial part of the question, his objections to it were equally strong:
it appeared to him as if Ministers determined there should be so
was dissolved, be had no doubt ! His Majesty's Ministers bad
-retrenchment—that the* public expenditure was in no instance
been characterised as weak. What other epithet could be ap-
plied to them ? When her Majesty arrived, they came down to be diminished, and that the calls for retrenchment were never
and said, that the necessity of proceeding was imposed upon to be attended to—(Hear, hear).
them. Now, there was no man who would go into society and Lord PALMERSTON defended this measure in a constine•
expose himself to the gidicule which such an assertion woultlex- tional point of view, because he did not contemplate the increase
pose him to. The late negociation gave the Ile to the "pare- of a single man to the Army ; on the contrary, it was only pro-
mount necessity" of the proceeding. -If any Gentleman was of viding better and more convenient lodgings for the men already
opinion that be, in the warmth of debate, had shaven any preju- voted. He was, therefore, surprised at any opposidon being
dice or party feeling on the subject, he wished to set him made to it.
right. lie could assure the House, that he entertained no such Mr. GORDON thought circumstances might Occur to make
feeling. /le wished to see justice impartially done; he could this sum of £5,400 a year a very unfair price for the Comatry to
not help Stating, that he felt compassion, strong compassion Tor pay. Theyisad already voted a large sum for Barracks; but
the situation of her Majesty, but he entertained a stronger feeling nut a word eras said on this branch of the Barrack system. Our
for the peace and tranquillity of the Country, which he conceived ancestors objected to Barracks because they tended to separate
were endangered by the proposed investigation- the soldiers from the citizens. He had always a jealousy of the
Mr. DENMAN observed, that when he entered the House, House Sitting on a... Saturday, when measures could be easily.'
be had no idea that the Resolution now before the House was to smuggled in, especially when there Was a Royal Commission in
be proposed. But he could not help stating the reasons urged in the other House, which made a House without the presence of
support of that clause, formed a strong ground egainst the forty Members. • -
inane of such a Bill, and unless the paramount necessity of such Lord BINNING defended this measure, and asserted, that
_a measure, From 1792 down to 1820, could be shewn, it ought not It was impossible that Ministers wished" to smuggle this Bill
to be proposed; at, all events, at a period like the present. It was through the house. •
not, however, for this purpose that he rose. He rose for the
Mr. Vi/. SMITH did not believe that Gve
purpose of entering his protest against the statements of the sob=k•
ornment wished to
the Country to a Military force; but he disapproved
Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Canning). He did not of s altogether, because it separated the soldiers from
mean then to enter into the prudeute or imprudence of the late their
Address to her Majesty, but he protested in the face of the House --
Sir
and the country, that it was proposed not out of regard to her - W. DE CRESPIGNY considered this system of building
Barracks savoured too much of an intention to keep up a Stand-
Majesty's interests, but because Parliament had no taste for en-
terir.g into a dint usilon where the Crown was a party, and when Mg Army.
they believed in their consciences the -Crown was in the wrong. Mr. T. WILSON considered that, in our present situation,
If it was right that her Islajesty should have been advised re- we should look to every saving of esper.se ; and that, as the
specting the Liturgy at a time when she had no responsible ad- Guards had remained so many years in their present Barrack',
visor, when, indeed, she had no adviser but her own high and they might have stopped there another year; and then, if it
boaourahle mind,. it was equally right that she should protest pleased Goo, they might not want them.
against her name being expunged from the Liturgy, against the Mr. MA BERLIZY said, there were plenty of empty stalls
law (for he never yet heard any lawyer maintain it was lawful in the Barracks at Woolwich or Croydon. If they wished for
to do so), against Christianity, and against the eommon feelings economy,, they ought to sell off the old Barracks before they-
of a gentleman and a man.- It became also her duty to protest built new. lie should divide the House upon the question, if
against any secret inquiry into the statements awaited in a leo one else would.
sealed bag, which inquiry bad, however, been enteie into hi The House then dirided.;-For the Motiot, 34—Against it, 14
another place. He knew not what the Houle of Cannons .1-Majority 20.
would have done, had the inquiry been persisted in, but he hoped The Resolutions were then brought up, and agreed to, after
that there would not have been found among them anY twenty- some observations from Mr. Gam:vela., Mr. CALCRAFT, the
one Gentlemen base enough voluntarily to offer themselves to Cnixemoa of the Esceteusa, Mr. Wastes's, Mr. Mesmer-icy,
enter into an examination of the disgusting statements contained Sir W. Da CILISPIGNY, and Lord Breemo.
in the green bag, into papers without a name, and unsupported Leave vial then given to bring in a Bill agreeably to the Re-
by any authority. He thought 'it wad acompliment paid by solutions.
the Noble Lord to the House, that this inquiry had not been The Union Duties Bill was read a third time.
pressed upon them. Sir J. NEWPORT wished the real protecting duties to be
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL knew not what information continued; but many in this Bill should be discontinued, be-,
the Hon. and Learned Member (Mr. Denman) possessed, upon cause they were only duties moved to enhance the Revenue.
what authority it was that he founded his statements respecting Mr. LITTLETON moved to leave out the clause respecting
the contents of the sealed bag, or hoW he could so positively at- the Potteries. On this the House divided—For the Motion 23
test that that evidence was unfounded and unworthy the attero —Apart it 54—Majority 11.—The Bill was then passed.
ti on of the House. It was strongly urged on the other side of The Paper Duties Bill was read a third time, ancTpassed.
the House, and he fully concurred in the observation, that the The Assessed Taxes Composition Bill went through a Com.:
Queen ought to be presumed innocer.t until proved guilty mittee.—Report to-morrow.
but, on the other hand, he pretested against the doctrine of Cie- The Extra Postage Bill was conunitted.—Report to-morrow.
cluing the Queen innocent, and her accusers guilty, before The Public Works Exchequer Bills Bill was read a third time,
anything was known of the nature of the evidence against her. and passed.
The question before the House, and to which he begged to call Tnt Bank-notes Bill went through a Committee, end wis re-
their attention, - whether, on the renewal of this All, a clause Ported.
Ministers

,was,
was to be introduced which skewed that his Majesty's A.
wire viewed with suspiCion by Parliament—Jiir J. Mscsaxrck
shook his head).—His floc. and Learned bnend might steaks
his head, but such was the impression which the clause would
create in the public mind. lie admired the reasonitg of the
Honourable and Learned Member. but were the Habeas Cor-
pses Act, and the other Acts to which he alluded, like the present
Resolution. at a period when the cases to which they referred
wo eroding; or with the avowed purpose of nisuldug a auspi-
don of Ministers? On this ground it was that he felt it neces-
sary to oppose the Revolution.
Mr. J. P. GRANT supported the Resolution.
Su J. MACKINTOSH explained. After which the Resolu-
tion was put, and negatived without a division.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee on the 1111;
after which the Report was is:latest up, awl ordered to be re-
ceived to-morrmv.
Mr. CA4LORAFT begged to sail the attention of the float'

The other Orders of the Day were then agreed to, and the
House adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'Clock.

Minim:act Taman/L.—Last night the seaseln commenced at
this pleasant and favourite place of resort —Mr. Tatar deli-
vered a wait-written Address on the occasion. It chiefly aHusled
to the approaching demolition of the building, in furtherance of
the architectural projects for the improvement of the West End
of the Town. The popular Comedy of the 'Green Mai, was the
first piece pt rformod. Mr. Younoza, from the Dublin Theitre,
made hls first appearance on these beards, as Lied Reereroft, as
did Dlr. FA RLICY, as Ainjn- Dome/in, and both acquitted them,
selves admirably. Tatar never Ippeated to greater advantage
than as the Gm% Men; and the other parts were well filled.
The Interlude of 2Yorsicr'Doggersocod followed.—ln conclusion
a new. Farce, called (NI awe Vinegar was pnwitteed for the Mat
time : It is a pleasant halt, rieee., Ind was will 41cL,4.—rait
unit, wee crowded in every pate •