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from tie *nal.% of the tenant ss to his Ivirft;
for a course of years: He stated in proof if thitim,.
had taken piece in the parish where he resided.,:
there was e lease of the tubes for 2l years at I ei
rate, and there bad been no disturbance sinet ri]
veiling to what had been said of the Irish (int,
he rated that, to his knowledge, when Mr. Wickh:,'
*as Under-secretary. an abominable troll: waif;
'tied on by many Clergymen—that fi elehAng:rj,
their livings, in order to avoid the agreement k, '
leases which they had entered into, and make mil i
'ones more advantageous to themselves. He kr",
his i
instance where a ClergYinan had threatened I' ' ilf..
rishionerS, tisk if they did not add £2OO a year tn`&,;
incouie, he would exchange his living, and 47
'would be compelled to pay more to the new • ?
bent. 'A law compelling the grant of leases forte
Mould prevent any abuses of this kind. A greatp
would be gained by going so far ; for in Ireland N
was not so mush the quantum as the mode in whip
tithes were collected, that was the grievauce got.
plained of. • •
Colonel WOOD wished to say something nn' elk
subject, because he lived in a part•of the ceunto
where the ;rople were. very much alive to it. He
agreed with a Noble Lord (Milton) that there were
great objections to making the clergy large 644
: dews and farmers. He was friendly to the amend.
pent, because. it the extensive subject of cornainti.
non were entered into, nothing would lie dent the
session. The best and shortest OM, her the pe •
would be to authorise the granting of leases for 21
years : the leases should be granted to the crams ni
" land, not to the occupiers.
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Mr. PRES'T'ON' thou& that the motinn-didet
go far enough, and that a snore extensive men
ought to be adopted. He had no hesitation in sayil
that the March did not at this moment receive nee.
fourth of its actual right. He was no inconsiderable
proprietor pf land, and having devoted above twenty
years of hit lite to the consideration of this subject,
he felt .himielf authosised to state, that the elegy
ought not to is permitted to act as they had dote,
because it vies altogether in opposi.i•in to their ic.
terrsts. He did not desire to argue this cpestion s%
a mere lawyer—hrowould throw aside ail special
pleading and casuistry on the subject, and speak in
' the plain unsophisticated langwige of A country gee.
I
tliman (Hear. ) The established Church had at all
times found in him a warm and sincere siippartec of
its riolith• and he should be always proud to Aetna-
ledge himself one of its disciples.
Mr. SMY.fli said a tew words in favour of the
Committee.

Mr. NEWMAN shortly replied, when the origisal
motion was negatived. and the amendment carried
without a division.

JLLIOIT DLIT' LAM V.

Mr. SHAW presented a Petition from the Li.
tensed Distillers of the City of Dublin, praying for
efficient measures to put a stop to 'illicit distillation;
and praying tor a reduction of the duties on spirits.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, that the tiNortlett
which prevailed in Ireland chiefly arose not of the
constant use of ardent spirits. In certain districts of
Ireland wi:ere breiverif4 had been encouraged, and
!at a tiint when distillation was not permitted, the
Imorals anu health of the people were improved, and
disturbances and mortality had decreased. tie wish.
ed that tile Landlcrds of Ireland would assist the
Revenue Officers in sup;sorsing the laws, inueAd of
combining to evade them, and to encour.ge u.,lassful
distillation, as was done in the North of Ireland, Inca
the purpose of obtaining -increased -rents for their
lands, by assisting tlt tenants in abontinable prac-
tices [bat enabled them to make large sums ut money,'
and at the Lune Aime spread immorality and vice
.over the country.
Mr. V. FIrLGERA GD said, it Was his intuitive
to adhere to the laws still ire iliteratiort.
Sir J. STEwmur declared, that the imputation
of the Right Hon. Baronet against the Ciseutlemen
of 'the of Ireland was 'the most'unfounded
that ord. came from any men; If was an ;Alsatian
anode •in gross. 'lstiar.)—SO•far.
trbfiteneourazing UnlawfulArsiillarrion, the Gentle.;
oven of the North'ef Ireland. lied expoled their hUs
:in fruitless attempts to pot it down. He declared the
.people there were at whet- al'eyer they had been,
althcleigh lignolr was. Uncommonly choap.
Sir•JOHN NEWPORT, in -reply, quoted a letter
from a Gentleman in the North of Ireland, ihwhich
were these Words.—“ Yon try •in yam to put down
illicit distilleries; for if they were put dawn, how
could 'we receive the large rents that are now paid
to ns ?"
.Mr. STEWART denied the assertion of the
Right Hon. Baronet, respecting the Gentlemen of
the North of Ireland. He declared it.was not in
their power to prevent the distillation alluded to.—
He himself,for instance, lived in a parish which was
14 miles long and seven broad. There were only
two or three Gentlemen besides himself residiog in
the parish ; .11 the other landowners being absentees;
whose estates were managed by ablentepavits.—
(4 laugh;.)--He was the only' Magistrate in the pa.
' rish, and it was impossible for him to put a stop to
the private stills.' •
General NrAmcw said he was•not sufficiently
acquainted with the practices in the North of Ireland
:o say how' far the gentlemen encouraged private
stills; but he knew very well that it was a commoi;
practice in the South. The Chanceller el the tr•
chequer for Ireland knew as well- as he Ad, the p.c.
Lice preiailed in the county of Clare, his own county,.
and from that toicfflaltie, all along the hanks of the
Shannon, as welt as Innisowen. In all thew pl ores
the landlords constantly assisted the illicit distillation,
because they alfbOught theit liquor from the putiresp.
(Alasigh.):.-se V say," continued he, " that most of
the gentlemen in the South, and all those along the
ibanke of the Shannon, buy the inatevi. Perhaps you
do not understand this s /Wiens is the Iri,b word tor a
small.piot hin pots the people &oil their setislters
and free Meat the liquor takes its name." When one
!Ma to it gentleman's iniUse, he was always asked
wheibir he would have t wear or whiskey, and be
11 atilt preferred `tale former, 'as being the best liquor.
tilreti.llsfinlensen: of 'the highest rank give it the pre-
,l,,ord Manners, the present Lord Cna.ncel.
;lot onteland, wa* et) fond of prawn, that, 'when he .
Iran. at Lord Abettors's, he o end& drink nothiag
helonsidtted it to be the best diuretic in the
iaegh).-There was only one win 01 .
wlsicb illicit distillation in Ireland could be put itu
optlo, mad 'that was by st,Tising the.MetsoarY .