Star.
London, England, 1810-02-07 00:00:00

Friend tralisserted had taken place within the last
thirty years. When 10 per cent. was deducted from
the incotne of every man (a measure which would
not hare been ventured on thirty years ago), was it
too much that the public should know why ? When
, large standing armies were maintained in the country,
was it too much that the public should know on what
lrounds they were maintained ? Yet from this little
uxury the general enforcement of the Standing
Order for the exclusion of strangers must inevita-
bly shut them out. It in a Committee of privileges
therefore any modification of the Order could be hit
upon in order to prevent its capricious enforcement*
would not such an emendation be highly advanta-
geous ? And this without the least abandonment of
the power which every Membet possessed of clearing
strangers from the Gallery at any moment whatever,
without any reason assigned. The present inquiry
was most important to the Public. Never had there
been more complicated diasters than those which dur-
ing the last year had befallen three of the finest armies
which Great Britain had ever produced. Was it not
fitting that the public should know in what way the
House of Commons were carrying on the inquiry into
these events ? If, in the Noble. Lord's allusion to
blame that he had incurred for not belonging to a
party he had pointed to any former expression of hiss
the Noble Lord had misconceived him. For himself,
he was a party man ; he thought no good could
be done without party ; he was satisfied, that for a
Member of the House of Commons to come down and
to act upon his own principles without reference to
concert with others, however theoretically right, was
practically erroneous. He did not, however, asperse
those who thought differently; although he could not
help remarking that the Noble Lord did not seem to
act entirely upon the principle which he professed,
but to belong to what might perhaps be termed a
third party in the House.
Mr. LYTTLETON said, that if the proceedings
of that House were to be taken by authority, the mis-
representation would then be a crime.
Mr. PETER MOORE vindicated the proprietors
of newspapers as a body of Gentlemen far removed
above the low, menial, and degraded condition in
which they had been placed by the description given
of them by the Right Honourable Gentleman on the
floor (Mr. Windham). He wished to know the ob-
ject of that Honourable Gentleman's reasoning ?
Did he want to fetter the press ? A Minister had
once said to the King—we must destroy the press, or
the press will in time destroy us—hut they knew in
what times this had been said—as to the Proprietors
and Editors of the Daily London Journals, he could
not think those men in the line of footmen—ftaudu.
lent bankrupts needy shopkeepers—adventurers,
/cc. who paid among them annually two millions into

animadverted upon
on the present ques-
icament in which the
Ible Gentleman had
as it ought to be,
unnecessary. If he
is without placerhen
men representing the
might shut their doors
tence of their constitu-
ome stood suspi7
A Right Tipp. go.
ton of the House be-
think the reputation
‘e public, had a leg to

the EXCHEQUER
words used by the
in the interposition of

say that that House
lost unparliamentary

;aid, that with all due
4uch nicety, when he
and the acquittal of
. to introduce, by cor-
that House. He had
Icy from an assembly
t by which they stood
and that by an Act
re them branched into
re,pect to their for-
cai of the en-
also the particular
me us formerly to do

ire no longer what
:wo rtisits of view he
,n—and as tr, the reason
iltlrman, he did not
been assigned. Mis-
' complained of, but
iveniencies resulting
lings on their inquiry
. had been also corn-
no advantages result
loin many had. He
:s, and had seen the
7ted an inaccuracy ;
general given with
with considerablp
Inalogy in the case
—that heard ex partg
; but it was idle to
that so many thou.+
so many millions of
.red ? It secrecy was
!,) appoint. a Secret
the public by such
ick in its reputation;
IGLIS to restore it to

was with great and
imself called upon to
And first, he could
Ministers altogether
in the debate. He had
that the inquiry, in
,ply interested,should
most public manner.
to say one word upon
them) extravagant dot.
Right Hon. Friend.
Mr. Sheridan's) ab.
:casicn of it. Ot that

cer judge than another
owned himself to be,
queitions which were to

once said to the King—we must deli
the press will in time destroy us—h
what times this had been said—as t
and Editors of the Daily London Jc
not think those men in the line of f
lent bankrupts needy shopkeep
Etc. who paid among them annually
the public treasury.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT an'
the total forbearance of Ministers on
tion. He felt the singular predicar
motion of the Right Honourable
placed him. If the House was a
perhaps the motion would be un
could see a House of Commons v
and pensioners, and made up of met
bulk of the country—then they migl
without shutting out the confidence
ents ; but the fact was, that that F
cious in the eye of the country. A
tleman had spoke of the reputation
ing on its last legs ; he did not thi
of that Houte, in the eye of the
stand on.
Here the CHANCELLOR of the
rose to order, and repeating the wa
Honourable Baronet, called upon • tl
the Chair.
The SPEAKER said, that to sa
had no reputation, was using most
language.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT said;
submission, he had not expected 4uc
recollected the 1 Ith of May last, an
a Minister detected in an attempt to i
rupt means, persons to seats in that
not expected such extreme delicacy
that had last Se.sslon past an Act by
acknowledged as contaminated, anc
of Parliament. The motion before a
a three-fold point of view—with re•
mer situation, the present practical
forcement of these Or:",a-s, and al,
case. As to the first, what ,•.,::me
was not the question nom, for we
we had been then. In the other two
had no objection to the motion—an(
assigned by the Right Hon. Gentl,
think that in fact any reason had be
representations had been vaguely co
stone had been specified. Inconvel
from the publicity of their proceeding
into the Duke of Yorke's conJuct 11:d
plained of—but he asked, did no o
from that publicity ? He thought
had at that time read the minutes, $
daily reports, and lie never detected
indeed, he thought the reports in get
remarkable accuracy, and even st
ability. He said there was no anal
put, of the County Grand Jury—th
evidence, we examined both sides ; 1
talk of secrecy. Was it a secret tha
sands of our brave soldiers, and so
our treasure had been squandered ?
the principle, it would be better to
Committee at once, than insult the
proceedings. The House was sick
(order) it could not be too anxiGu
health.
Mr. SHERIDAN said, that it
unfeigned reluctance he felt himsel
trespass again upon the House. A.
not help animadverting upon the Mi
abstaining from taking any part in th
presumed that they were anxious the
which their characters were so deeply
be conducted in the strictest and mo
But his chief object in rising was toss
the strange and (he would call them)
trkies that bad fallen from • his Rip
1114% had bit tin by criticising his (Mr
sence from that House, anii the occas
occasion he thought he was a better ju
could be ; but party-Mau as he own
still he thought that tho:e queitior