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cumstances in which her character was placed: That haeo been the most important in a judicial proceed.' sisters alone; continued the Eon. Gentleman, hut the
omission was not intended as an insult or a degrade- I log. All the while, she was said to be disgracing! House of Commons that stood upon its exculpation,
tion of the Queen ; and such were the opinions of ea! herself and this country on the banks of the take of and all he could say to it was, o Gott send them a
Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Brougham), and: Como, Ministers never, even out of humanity, gave safe deliverance !"—( Hear, hear, hear).
a Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Tierney), who con- I her any warning to 1., more guarded; and moreover, Lord CASTLEREAGH was grateful to the Noble ,
tended that it was nothing, comeared with her re- her name was all the while retained in the Liturgy, Lord who brought this motion forward, and to the
storation to her just rights. The Learned Gentleman until she had determined to return to this country. Hon. Gentleman who seconded him, for the manly
wished for an equivalent :—D4 No doubt!" fions Mr. The RightHonourable Gentleman had said that the way in which they had put this question on a proper
Broeighanej—lt was new to him that an equivalent omission of the .Queen's name from the Liturgy was footing, by submitting to the House a vote of cen•
should be asked by a legal man, or agent, for a net intended as an insult to her; but she herself, and sure on Ministers. Acting thus, they had done
thing which he himself thought unlawful. But that the People, considered it in that light, and as soon as honour to the party with which they acted, by extri.
he did not find out as a lawyer, or a Member of she heard of it, she wrote to complain of it. For these ening it from those milk and water propositions
Parliament, but as a sound Philosopher—(Hear,hear). reasons, the Ministers had not exercised a sound dis- which had been previously brought forward, and
He denied that the present Administration had lost cretion in advising such an exertion of the Royal pre- snatching their party from that disgrace in which
,the confidence of the country__(Near, hear, hear).— rogative, even supposing that exertion was perfectly they were about to involve themselves. This course
(They had had the misfortune to be opposed by the legal—(Hear, hear).--Mr. PEEL explained. having been taken, he trusted he should not be found
Whigs—a party of the most constitutional kind, corn- The ATTORNEY-GENERAL appealed to the the individual who would shrink from meeting such
prising much of the talent and property of the coun- House, whether the Honourable Baronet had not a, motion., He might express surprise that he, its
Ef They had been also opposed by the Radicals, gone beyond the line of debate in the expressions he February, 1821, should be defending a crime charged
who were opposed to every Institution in Church had used as respected him—(Cries V No, no I Hear, to have been committed in January, 1820. Though
and State. The Whigs and Radicals were entirely hear). He had a most painful duty to perform with an offence of so long standing, down to that day the
different. One meant good to the State, and the other respect to the case of the Queen. He had certain subject had never been fairly brought before the
harm ; but neither could the one do good, nor the Papers laid before him by order of the House of House. It had been played with in the debate on the
other harm, until the present Ministers were dismissed. Lords; and it was his bounden duty to open the case motion made by the Hon. Member for Bramber. but
No means of junction bad been found for these two against her Majesty, as stated in those Papers, con- had never been regularly brought before the House,
opposite bodies, until they found out that Ministers ceivrng that they could be borne out by evidence. He might also say, that many of the measures ar-
should be removed. All the Meetings at York, at Was it any fault of his that the facts were so disgust. reigned by the Noble Lord were as much the acts of
'Liverpool, in Hampshire, and in London, were coin- ing and the evidence so revolting to every honour- the House as the acts of Ministers. He, however, was
posed of Whigs and Radicals. All the Loyal Ad. able mind? In his opinion the evidence did bear out not disposed to shelter the acts of Ministers under this
dresses had been got up by Gentlemen who thought the facts which he opened, and even went farther sevenfold shield, and he called upon the House now to
it time to rally round the Throne. Ile denied that than he went in his opening. He denied that it was determine whether their conduct was or was nig pro-
Government had at all influenced them ;or that they his duty to examine the witnesses previous to or du- per in the delicate situation in which they Ilea- been
had employed runners or newspapers to excite such ring the proceedings. He found it his duty to have placed. That question he wished to press on the
Meetings. They bad been condemned for want of no communication with the witnesses at all. The House in the broadest manner, and by their decision
mercy to the Queen; but what would have been the Honourable Gentleman proceeded to defend his con- on it he was content to stand or fall---(Hear, hear),
mercy of the Whigs to the Queen ? They wouldhave duct in his mode of stating his case against the The Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Lambton) had
proceeded against her for High Treason, if they had Queen in the House of Peers. He made his state fairly grappled with the question whether, at her
had such charges against her as they thought war- ment on the evidence before him, and by that evi-
,Majesty's age, it was probable that any spurious off-
ranted them in proceeding against her. It was not deuce it appeared Bergami had lived in familiarity spring could be imposed upon the country, in conse-
quite fair that the Public should not know what these with the Princess of Wales ; and it afterwards ap. quence of the profligate life she might lead ? He
Whigs were when they endeavoured to get the sense peered that Bergami accompanied the Queen to St. (Lord Castlereagh) contended that had Ministers
of the Country to root out his Colleagues and himself Omer's. Who, if they believed the evidence of for. treated her as it her conduct had been believed to be
from his Majesty's Councils for ever—(Hear, hear). mer familiarity, could doubt but it continued up to correct, on the supposition that she would remain
F Sir RA CIS BURDETT said, the rhapsody that time? The Honourable Baronet had talked of abroad, they would have placed an instrument in
they had just heard had no reference to the question proceedings in the Court of King's Bench, which her hand—( Loud and continued laughter)—with which
at issue. The Right Hon. Gentleman began with could have nothing to do with the present case, and she might have come back to claim to be treated in
opinions of Mr. Fox, nearly a century ago, who might which proceedings seemed to have been dragged in this country in every respect as Queen Consort!--
then have said there was some connexion between by the Honourable Baronet for no other purpose than (Hear, hear.) He could not understand on what
that House and the Public. But the Right Hon. to found a violent attack on him. He would again principle the King could demand that her Majesty
Gentleman would nearly stand alone, if he asserted repeat that, in his conduct as regarded the Queen, he should be received at foreign
excluded from the Court of England. He dented Courts while she was
that the House of Commons, as now constituted, re- had acted in the conscientious discharge of his duty ;
presented the voice of the People fairly. Mr. Pitt, and had he again to perform the same duty, he that the servants of the Crown abroad had failed to
when an early Reformer, wished to have an altera- should do it in the same manner, notwithstanding the treat her with due respect. The instructions sent out
tioft of the Representation of the People in Parlia- taunts of the Hon. Baronet, and those who acted (which were not sent till they were required) merely
ment. The Right Hon. Gentleman had said, the with him ; looking to the country, before whom his set forth that it was not to be demanded that the
Whigs, who held the wealth, rank, and talents of the conduct was, for a justification of his motives (Cheers). Queen should be received at foreign Courts, seeing
country, had joined the Radicals (the great bulk of Mr. TIERNEY said, he certainly did, in March she was not received at the Court of Great Britain.
the People); and he hoped the People would hold to last, say he would not vote a farthing to the Queen, This was not a very novel case. In proof of this, he
that wealth, and rank, and talents, to procure a Re- until inquiry was made into her conduct, and he did might refer to the high Whig authority—to the letter
form in the House of Commons. He would not fol- this in consequence of the rumours then afloat ; and, written by a Noble Lord to the Hon. Member for
low the Right Hon. Gentle Man through the greater fully persuaded that Ministers, unless they had pos. Bramber—and to the notice publicly given by the
part of his speech; which would indeed be a question sessed unanswerable evidence, would never have Duke of Grafton when he was Chamberlain, in 1737,
of Parliamentary Reform, which would soon be adopted the extraordinary step of excluding her Ma-
when it was announced, that any person visiting the
brought before the House. The Right Honourable jesty's name from the Liturgy • but it now appeared Court of Prince Frederick, would not be received at
Gentleman had called the Radicals the many ; and to him, that, throughout the Whole of these trinsac-
that of the King. He would, however, ask, whether
of that many, he (Sir Francis Burdett) was one.— dons. his Majesty's Ministers had acted with a deter-
anything so inconsistent could be required, as that the
But what did the Right Honourable Gentleman mean mined disregard of public tranquillity and public feel_ King Should require the Queen to be received at
by asserting, that the many, or the People, meant ing. Since the proceedings in 1806, he must consi-
other Courts, while she was excluded from his own ?
mischief, when he must know that the People were der all the steps taken against her Majesty, as spring_ Ile should have felt that he dishonoured the Crown,
upholding their loyalty, by supporting the Royal ing from Ministers, down to that most mischievous the Country to which he belonged, and himself as a
Family, which Ministers had endeavoured to de- of all the measures, the establishment of the Milan Minister, had he signed a dispatch under such cir-
grade by every means in their:slower, ?—(Hear, hear). Commission; which was a step of itself most calcu-
cumstances, instructing an Ambassador to make such
If they had wished her Majesty to have remained laced to destroy any future attempt at an arnica= a demand, and directing him to place himself on one
abroad, they would have ceased to have followed her ble arrangement. Of that Commission he would side of the Queen, while her Courier took his place
with persecution, which rendered her return to this say, if that it were sent out to seek for evidence on the other—(Hear, hear).—He did not know where
country imperious, and absolutely necessary—they against the Queen, that was certainly a high crime ; the Right Hon. Gentleman found that her Majesty
iwould never have presented charges against the and he charged it against the King's Ministers, and had no intention of returning to this country it she
Queen of a nature to disgust the whole country, on he called on them to answer it—(Hear, hear).—
had not been persecuted, as he called it, but which
such evidence as no man would have hanged a dog They had also been guilty of a crime against their he (Lord Castlereagh) would totally deny. Various
upon !—(Hear, hear.) The mode of proceeding by Royal Master, and towards the Queen, in sleeping, as expressions had fallen from her Majesty at different
Bill of Pains and Penalties was well calculated to they had done, over the charges against her Majesty, periods, that such was her intention whenever she
have produced prejudices against the Queen, instead supposing they believed those charges to be true.—
might become Queen—(Loud cries of Hear, bear)
of answering the purpose of fair trial and investiga- They had, however, suffered all this to rest until the He did not understand how the advice formerly given
tion. It ,had been said that the Queen was guilty, late King's death, and then assuming her guilt with-
by the Honourable and Learned Gentleman opposite
and in thb next breath it was said, that they could out further inquiry, they struck her name. out of the (Mr. Brougham) could be reconciled with the Mee.
not think of placing adultery and treason upon the Liturgy, and made her the celebrated overture at sage lately brought down, which he appeared to
Throne of England. Here, however,. if she was St. Omer's. The Right Hon. Gentleman then pro- countenance, and which it might be supposed that he
guilty, they had both treason and adultery placed ceeded in strong terms to censure those acts, and all had advised. He did not understand the conduct of
upon the Throne, in spite of the Bill of Pains and the subsequent proceedings in both Houses. In the the Honourable and Learned Gentleman with respect
Penalties.--The Hon. Baronet here reprobated the Bill of Pains and Penalties he discovered the weak-
to that proposition which he had been charged to
bringing forward such charges on such infamous evi- nest of the Ministers' case. One act of adulterymake to her Majesty, and which he himself had dee
dence, and was proceeding to say, if the Attorney- proved would have satisfied justice and the country, sired to have reduced to writing. That proposition,
General had had thefts:ling: of a man in his bosom—. and the moment he read the Preamble of the Bill, it appeared, the Hohourable and Learned Gentleman
when he was called to order by the Setaese.j—He charging the Queen with a long course of licentious had retained in his pocket from the 15th of April
(Sir F. Burdett) was the first in the House to bow to conduct, he was fully persuaded they had no distinct down to the end of May. This paper he had taken
correction, and, if wrong in debate, he felt it a favour case against her Majesty, and that their object was to St. Omer's, only to bring it back in his pocket,
in any one to set him right. He must, however, repro- not justice, but the Queen's degradation. He was though the Honourable and Learned Gentleman had
bate the conduct of the Attorney-General, in making satisfied with the conduct of the Attorney-General. wished a letter to be written by Lord Hutchinson to
a statement against a woman and a Queen upon such It now appeared that he had no knowledge of the case authorize it. How, he might ask, did it happen that
testimony; and for not attempting to support many but what he received from his brief; that he opened the Honourable and Learned Gentleman, wishing to
parts of his statement by any evidence whatever— many facts which no evidence was called to prove; avert the evils of the late inquiry, could throw upon
(Hear, hear).— Allowing that the keeping the Queen's and he charged the King's Ministers with a crime for Lord Hutchinson the task of offering, or indeed sus-
name out of the Liturgy was according to the pre. which they deserved impeachment, in delivering such her him to submit a loose proposition to the Queen,
rogative of the Crown, still the qiiestion for the a brief against-the Queen of England, upon the un-
without producing the document furnished to him?
House of Commontwould be, whether it was wise sifted evidence of a set of rogues and vagabonds.— 'He might add, too, that he (Lord Castlereagh) could
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and expedient in Ministers to have advised the exer-
cise of that prerogative. The People did skew re-
spect and loyalty to the King, though his Ministers
were the most unpopular of any since the Revolution.
No man had a right to say that the Queen was guilty;
but even if she had been so, the present Ministers

He particularly denied the right of the —Ministers to
abandon the Bill; and having done so, now to say
that her guilt was proved, and they wished to pro-
ceed no further. By this doctriue, they consented to
what he never would agree to, namely, that a person
silty of adultery should be allowed to sit on the

never understand why the Honourable and l,earned
Gentleman, when it was a notorious fact that no de-
sire was so near the queen's heart that he should meet
her, not at St. Omer's, but at Geneva, and there deli,
berate on her interests, why this wish was not cool-
plied with? He never could comprehend why the

should not have put her upon her trial on the evi-
dence of such witnesses as the Majocchis, Itastellis,
Sacchis, &c. when those very Ministers refused their
rights to five or six millions of their Catholic fellow-
countrymen, because, according to them, the Duke
of Norfolk, the Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Fingal,l
and other great Noblemen and Gentlemen, could
not be believed on their oaths !—( Hear, hear).-,-
Ministers evidently preferred their places to every
other consideration; and that was the reason why
they had subjected the Royal Family to insult anti
misconception. He believed that the late President
of the Board of Controul (Mr. Canning) might have
stopped those disgraceful proceedings, had he re-
mained. and not, like Pilate, have washed his bands
clear of the persecutions of " this just person"--espe-
cially as he, being a man of knowledge and tasteo
had declared her Majesty to be" the grace and orna-
ment of society!"—(fleas, hear). It could be said by'
no oue that those proceedings originated in State ne-
cessity; for there was not a man that did not lament
their having been instituted, and therefore they should
never have been gommencea. They accused the
Queen of six years of gross misconduct, but they
dropped the last three years Af the time, which would

gu,
Throne of England ; and they had voted her a large
sum of money, which she, as befitted her dignity,
had refused to accept, saying, " I refuse to touch
your money, unless you will afford me an opportu-
nity of proving my innocence!" The question now
before them was of no common importance, note
merely ask affected the Queen, but as it affected the]
Government, and would prove how far the sense of
the People was spoken by the House of Commons.
It was not to be assumed that because Ministers had'
a majority there, it followed of course that they poe.
sessed the confidence of the People. Men would pot
be trampled upon because they were told, " 0, you
must support this Government, because it gave us
peace; and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that
great financier, called forth all our resources ;" to
which it might be answered, " Yes, and he spent
them all into the bargain !"—(4 laugh).—The People
were not so dull but they must perceive that them'
was something wrong in the administration of their.
affairs. The party of the Noble Lord had now betel
in power (with very little exception) five or six and
thirty years; and would any man tell him that theft
was nothing bad ill the system which had lixouott
the country to its present situation? it was *in Mr

Hon. and'Leained Gentleman thought it his duty....
'Or thought it expedient to bring her Majesty so near
'the coast before the deliberations were opened, when
it vjoqjd hae been much more convenient to enter
upon theni at Geneva, than at a place where she must
necessarily be made so prominent as she was, when
at St. Omer's. it 'was true, he knew, that the Hon,
'and Learned Gentleman had-gone to Carlisle to vote
for a Whig Election, but really he could not think
this a matter of such paramount importance as to
account far his inattention to the wishes of her
jesty. The worthy Alderman who had
.inteie:t•4
himself for the Queen, had strangely got the star
of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman. lie had
first got to the Royal presence, and t'-,e crnseinet:ce
was, her Majesty appeared at once to surrender to
that influence of which the Learned Gentleman,
when the subject was first agitated in that House,
seemed so grievously to complain,. That the wor
thy Alderman's counsel had prevailed over that of
the Learned Geodeman, had probably coot, 'bated
not a little to the failure cf the negociations opened
alter, her Majesty left St. Omer's—(t/ear, tr).,—.
He conceived that the proposition made to the Qtreea
was calculated to produfe the most beneficial malt