Star.
London, England, 1821-05-10 00:00:00

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Dlr. !MN , let tne Sicaxra—Can you state who
the person is that gave you this paragraph ?—lt was not given
to me.
Do you know to whom it was given ?—I am not aware. I
y id not see it.
I wish t 6 know who is the person that is charged with the
management of the press in your absence?—The Editor.
'What is his name 7—Cooper.
, ni.Cbri.4tiat name ?—1 lenry, I believe.
Is he the sole Editor ?—That I cannot answer, because
newspapers are in the habit of receiving communications from
others ; it is so here, and I can't say, therefore, that he is the
sole Editor. •
Where does Henry Cooper live 7—Somewhere in the neigh-
bourhool of Olackfriar's-road, as I am inf trmed.
Is the House to understand that you don't know where he
Eves except generally in the neighbourhood of Blackfriar's-road ?
I don't know exactly the place where he lives; I believe in
Blackfriar's-road, or near it.
When does he come to the office?—He is generally there
every day.
, Hose long has he been the Editor?—For some time past; I
can't say exactly.
If you wish to communicate with the Editor, where do you
send to hint ?-1 never have occasion to !end to him, as he
comes every day.
At what hour?—At various hours • between ten o'clock and
o'
half-past seven or eight clock generally.
Is he there now P.—For aught I know he is.
Was he there When you came away 7—No.
'When did you see him last?—At three o'clock.
Did you tell him that you were ordered to attend this House?
No, as there was a Gentleman with him ; but of course he could
not be ignorant Of it.
Aire you printer, publisher, and sole proprietor of the paper?
I am.
How long have you been printer, publisher, and sole pro-1
prietor ? I cannot exactly state the length of time.
Question repeated—lt is a considerable time; since Christmas.
Were you printir, publisher, and sole proprietor, from the
'beglnting ?—I was printer and publisher.
And who was the proprietor or proprietors?—Their names
are at the Stamp Office I believe, 'Newts. Shackell and Ar-
sowimith.
Rid you purchase the proprietorship of this paper, and, if so,
of whom P—Of Messrs. Shasta and Arrowsmith.
Is not the name where it ii published that of Arrowsmith?
—Yes.
•Is it not where be lives7—Yes, for the purpose of business.
I wish to know it you are nut in fact a journeyman to Arrow-
smith, and do you not receive from him three guineas a week
for the work you do ?—I taive arrangements with them. As to
the three guineas a week, 1 arnsmicerned in other branches of
business for them.
Then am I to understand that you arc not sole proprietor, but
that you share it with Arrowsmith?-1 lave arrangements with
them, but not as to the paper.
Then you persist in saying that you are the sole proprietor,
and that Arrowsmith has no share in it 7--As to that, arrange-
ments have been making in respect of my purchasing the paper,
but they are pot yet concluded, therefore 1 cannot be said to be
the sole proprietor. •
Did you not, on the 10th and the 24th of February last, swear
that you was the printer, publisher, and sole proprietor of the
newspaper called John Bull, at the Stamp Office did.
What sum did you pay to Arrowsmith for his giving into
your hands his share of the proprietorship?—As to the price,
the arrangements have not been finally determined on; there
being a multiplicity of business between us.
How then, under these circumatances, the price not settled,
could you swear that you were sole proprietor P-1 did so, con-
ceiving that I became sole proprietor on Mr. Arrowsmith agree-
ing with me to give me up the paper on a final arrangement.
Was the agreement in writing, and if so, where is it 7—lt
was not. _ _

Was there any memorandum taken of it, or was It merely
verbal?—k was verbal.

What was the nature of it ?—I was to become the sole pro-
prietor of the paper, giving them a certain sum; but the sum
was not fixed on—(lsiogkicr).
I ask you, Sir, if any prosecution was commenced against the
paper when this arrangement was made ?—Yes, there was one.
Who receives the profits of the paper now T—l do.
• Do you keep them to yourself, or do you account for therm
With anybody P—l-aecount in various ways.
As to the proceed l of the paper, do you account with Arrow-
smith for the proceeds ?—No.
With whom then do you account 7—Sine I became proprie-
tor I account with nobody, the purchase-mousey not having been
exactly settled.
Do you receive the whole of the profits, and keep them
The profits go to an account; some have not been received.
Such as have been received do you keep ?--I do.
Was there any witness to the agreement between you and
Arrowsinith ?—No.
What do you pay the Editor?—.(The answer was not heard
In the gallery.)
Do you keep by you all the manuscript copy which is sent to
be printed?..— I do not ; but I believe the Editor does.
Do you know that the Editor now the copy of the para.
graph which is complained of ?-1 cannot say for certain; it is
posaible he may.
fly 31r. M. A. TAYLOR.—in whose name was the house
taken, where this Paper Is printed ?—I can answer readily by.
whom the house neat dour, which is alao part of the office, war
taken; for this happened within my own knowledge.
'ln whose name then ?—Shackell and Arrowsmith.

By lease?—Yes.
Can that lease be produced?—l do not know tbat it is in
•thteuce.

Dut witness cannot misunderstand the question. In whose
came is the house rented, which is the immediate °lice of the
paper T—Shackell and Arrowstnith.
Who is the landlord T—l don't know; I believe a widow lady.
Then the original house is in the name of Sbackell And Ar-
rowsinith ?—Yes ; it is their general printing-office.
Who, were you understood to say, took the house?—Shackell
and Arrowbmith.

And continue to pay the rent?—The same.
They took it originally?—They did.

lias.witetesa any banier?—Tlie affairs of the paper are not of
that extensive nature to require a bauker—(.4 laugh).
By Mr. MCNN Err.— lb it understood that you are to AC-
count with Mr: Arruwsrnith fur the psuceeds of this paper.'—.
Tere is an agreement of that sort between us.

By Mr. B-ENNETT.—Dot:s witness keep an acco=unt with
Mr. A m•wstitith ?—I do.

Will witness sell the House the nature of that agreement ?
I must account with him finally, but no precise time or sum has
yrt been stated.
Had any sum been Mentioned fur the purchase of the Paper,
and what suns?—No sum was mentioned"; 1 souk it fur a time,
on a chance of profit or loss.
Then there was a simple transfix of property, but no arrange-
ment made as to the time or sum of payment ?—No sum has
been stated.

Ily a klastinut7-Is the sum to depend upon the extent of the
sale?— I have said before that no sum was mentioned, but I pre-
sume it was intended the sale should govern the payment. •
By Mr. BENNETT—I ask the witness, did he not swear,
on the 10th of February lagt, that the printing-officeof the paper
was then at No. 9, !)yen's-buildings,pasish of St. Andrew, 1101.
burn certainly did.
Was the paper ever printed there in fact, or was it always
printed at the office in Johnson's-court, Fleet-street ?—ft is. no
unusual thing to set down a man's address as printing a paper
in one place, and the business being dune, in (Act, elsewhere.—
The paper was composed on my premises, but the forms were
taken elsewhere to be worked by a steam-engine, so that in fact
the paper is nut printed where it is.said in the advertisement to
be printed.
' You have stated your belief that there was no copy of the
paragraph in question preserved. Were you at the office the
day this paper was printed ?—What day does the Honourable
hleenber mean?
Sunday, the 6th of May ?—I left the office early on Saturday.
To whom, then, was this copy given ?—To the • Editor, I
should imagine.
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Loos the witness know whether the compositor is.in the
habit of composing such matter as conies in, without consulting
his sup: rior ?--Perhaps be may, sometimes.
Is the *pas to be. understood to say, that he dues not
kadw. who raKlit this manuscript to the. Ake, or to whom
this unkaown wain delivered it 7-1 have before Stated that 1
do out know.

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What is the name of the compositor to whota witness Andes.
—There are five or six of them.
And ate they all at liberty to insert what they please, without
consulting the FaMot ?—Not all ; but it may happen that some
of the compositors remain behind on a Saturday after the
Editor goes away, and in'this way scone/tint may get in with-
out the privity of the Editor.
By Mr. W. WYNN—Did witness ever make any inquiry
as to the quarter from whence this ParaltraPhcanse?-1; was
not my business.
Does he know which of the five compositors it was that
directed the insertion of this paragraph 7--I do not.
Do you mean to say you never, since the appearance of this
paragraph, made arty inquiry as to the quarter from whence it
came, or by whose authority it got into the paper?—l have not. I
Indeed, if I did inquire, I should be taint out of my way in
some degree, for I rely with pelted confidence on those about
the paper, that•nothing improper will make its way into the
paper. I could not take the inquiry upon me. With regard to
this particular piragraph, not being able to state how it found
its way to the paper, I can only say that it is a falsehood—
(One of Ortkr !)—and if I knew any man capable of writing a
deliberate falsehood, scathing upon earth should induce me to I
conceal his name.
Then you never made the inquiry to which I have alluded ?
—I did not.
By Mr. SC A ELETT—Was any money paid for printing this
paragraph?—l do not know of my own knowledge.
Do you believe that any money had been paid?—l do.
Does witness mean to say that be is ignorant of the name of
the compositor who received this parscraph 7—There are five or
six of them, and it is infeasible for me to say.
• The question is not whether it is possible for yon to say or not,
but whether you know the compositor's name?—l do not.
Witness has said there were five or six compositors ; would he
name them, and their addresses, to the House 7—Witness named
four, sad said he was uncertain as to the where.
here was a fifth, what was his name ?—I thought I had
given the names of five, but we often have extra hands when
I we are pressed with matter.
Who pays these extra hands?—l do.
Were any extra hands engaged on the Paper on the day in
question 7—l rather think there were; but it depends entirely
upon what matter we have on Saturdays.
But the time is not so distant but that you could recollect dis-
tinctly whether you had any extra bands on Saturday last. Did
you pay any extra hands 7—There are so many compositors off
and on, that I cannot Say which of them were there that day.
Who is the Editor ?—blr. Cooper.
Was he in the office when this paragraph came in ?—I think
he was. _ _ _

By Lord NIX ENT.—Witnevs would please to answer one
question as to the proprietorship of the Paper. Did be recollect
at what time and where the verbal agreement was made by bins
and Mr. Arrowsmith ?—I think it was about seven weeks ago
At the office.
Does be mean to say that it was so long as seven weeks ago?
—I cannot say precisely.
Was it so long as a month or two ago ?—lt was nearer two
months than one.
Where did it take place ?-18 the office.
In Mr. Arrowintith's office ?—Yes.
Who appointed Mr. Cooper Editor?—He was appointed by
the proprietors when the paper was first set up.
This was not an answer to the question. Who now employed
him ?—Mr. Shackell;
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Who pays him? —There are money transactions in another
way between Mr. Cooper and the proprietors, and I really du
not know how his services are remunerated as Editor.

Has Mr. Cooper been tare Often paid by witness than by )k.
Arrowsmith7—Not often by Me.
Have You ever paid Hr. Groper?—Yes.
How often 7—Once or twice.
By whoin are the regular outgoing expenses of the establish-
ment paid 7—The Stamp Office is settled with by Mr. ShackelL
Who pays the other current eapenscs ?—lt sometimes happens
that I pay the Stamp Office.
That is no snorer to the question. What i ask is, by whom
are the other outgoing current expenses of the paper paid ?
Mostly by Mr. Arrosismits.
Who pays the workmen?—Mr. Arrowsmith.
By Sir ROBERT WILSON—Do you keep a clerk 7—No.
By Mr. U. A. TA YLOlL—%Vhose business is it to examine
the proof sheet of the press?—'le reader► but I do it also
sometimes.

What is the reader's name?—Duckwortd
U be ready to come fonrard?-1 suppose so.
h tbere a book *where entries of advertisements, nd of monks
paid out are regularly made ?—There are such books at our once.
Who receives the money for the advertisements and the sale
of the papers?—ft goes principally into the bands of Mr. Ar-
rowsmith.

Then he receives the weekly ptoceeds of the paper?—No.
What 49e1 witnos mean ? Will you say, Sir, whether Mr.
Arrovismith receives the proceeds of the paper or not can-
not say as to the whole, but I think he does the principal pan.
When the witness says books are kept fur entering advertise-
ments, will be say who keeps them?—l do sometimes, some-
times Mr. Arroirsinith, and sometimes Mr. Cooper.
To whom is the money paid?—To eack of us.
Lord NU GENT.—Is any one at your office authorised to
receive paragraphs after you and the Editor have gone away ?
I cannot say that any one is absolutely authorised, but they un-
dertake it sometimes When we are nut in the way, and they may
happen to want copy.
aU the compositors enjoy this discretionary power?—No,
not aIL

Arc there any private marks by which the compositor may
know what copy ofikheto pt in when the Editor is not at hand ?
None that I know uf.
I wish to know from the witness whether be was ever before
engaged at any cf the weekly or daily papers ?—I have been en-
gaged occasionally at the Traveller newspaper.
Lly. Dr. PH I Lid Mt ICE.—Were there extra hands at the
office who would undertake to put in a paragraph without the
sanction of the witness or the.Editor?—Thhi I cannot say, but
it is possible they might.
Can witness say that a compositor has ever ventured to put ha
a paragraph without the sanction of the Editor ?—I cannot say
that I have known any instance of the kind.
Would you not instantly dismiss a compositor who bad acted
in that way ?—I certainly should.
Have you any 'reason, and what, for thinking that such a
thing had at any time been done ?—Yes; (tons the fact of seeing
in the paper neat day some matter to the insertion of which I
was not a party.
Did you not then make inquiry as to the moans by which such
a paragraph had got into the paper ?—1 did not. I said before
it was no part of my business, and I left it entirely to the Editor.
Was the House to understand then, that though these para-
graphs had crept in, without his (witness's) knowledge, yet they
might have been previously in the Isandsad the Editor?—l can-
not say that : I Can only say that they got into the paper with-
out my knowledge.
By Mr. SCA itI.ETT.—Is Mr. Cooper sole Editor, or Is the
office divided between him and another?—l bare no share In
editing the paper.
But has the Editor an assistant?-11e is sole Editor, unless
occasionally that he calls in an ..bistant, which is not minima in
newspapers.
Do you pay Mr. Cooper have paid him once or twice,
You have said you du not know where Mr. Coupes. lives?—
Not positively.
Thut answer is ambiguous. RIG you state whether you know
where ?.Ir. Cooper lives ?—I cannot say positively. I once asked
how far he _had to go' and he said it was,a good way of
Then you say you do not positively know where Mr. Cooper
lives?—Not positively.
By .51r. BERN A L.—Witness had said that a Gentleman was
with Mr. Cooper, which prevented his communicating with him.
Could he state whether that Gentleman had any connection
with the paper?—Nut any,
Do you know his name2—l do not.
By a MEMBER.-4s it part of the reader% duty to examine
the paragraphein the pruot sheet ?--The manner in which the
thing is done is this : the reader has the proof before hint, and
the boy reads over the copy to hites if any Merest& occurs
between the printed matter and the manuscript, the reader then
makes the alteration in the proof.
By Mr. W. SMITII.—By what means does the manuscript
copy get into the reading's-boy hand Z---Through the compositors.
And who gives it to the compositors T.—Generally the Editor.
But when the Editor does not give it, from what hands does it
then come ?—Sometimes from mine.

There still remains somebody else from whom the copy May
come. Now answer;. when the copy comes neither from you
nor the Editor, where does it then corn.: from ?--,oh, that never
happens; but when we go away, and the copy, is !said before,