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London, England, 1829-04-08 00:00:00

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*OMAN CATHOLIC HMS/
The Duke o( WKI.LINGTON mewed the Order of the Day
for the.committal of the Roman Catholic Ridief*Bill.
The Duke of ?inseam; the Duke of kart-ano. and several
other Peers. rose in different parts of the /tune, tut gave way; to
Lord DE DUNSTANVILLE--He begged the i. .
dulgence of the House whilst he ,s-a•ed ye rea.6 s
which induced him to 'cite tn •the second tea f
this Rill. He believed that the adtritsion o R, nr.n
Catholics within the pale of the Coris.itut on would be
attended with great advantage to t'•e I ro e.tant Ciri-
stitution, and parlicularlf to the EstablislieJ Chinch.
It was true that, in f rarer days, the Church of Rum.,
and the P..pe, as head of that Chd.ch, had assurnid
and exercised a power cf thelnost dangerou, an 1, 1.,-
deed, intolerable character ; but the likenr y of the last
century proved that the poser of the P which had
been so much tatked nf, osdy exited iu "im.giitat nets
The ca ndwt B..n.rparte inwards Puts VT. showed
hal little the Pspal power was now t.' be dr. aded. 11
an attempt was !wide to subvert the Par test tnt Churth
by the amb•tiAn 4 retie members of the 'Romeo Catho-
lic Chinch, its the Reformed CI arch hid beets Ilium.
phanCy defended en former occa inns. so in thou! 4tayt
entre vete persons able and willing to drtend 'it.
Amongst ihe other circumstonces cleaned to as cal-
culated to- induce their Llidif.ips to refuse the claims
of the Catholics, fr q refit reference vas made to the
gunpowder plot. L was remarkable, however, that
gunpowder plot was discovered by Lord Mounteagle,
who was him,elf a Catholic. There were only fi'ty er
sixty persoks concerted in the pli-r, and. if it had sue-
ce..ded,wliat would have been the consequence? Ffty
or sixty Itom m Catholic Peers belong in,; to th..t Houle,
and a. many Roman Catholic Members who then sat
in the Lower K.USI of Pao Hameln, w. uld have per !shed
as well as the timeworn Piers and Comm. ners. The
people were greatly deluded and misled on these ills-
cts ; but, us the people of E gland- were moon kable
for good•sense, he trusted that they w tech so.n become
acquainted with the real merits of the case.

The. Duke of RU (LAND begged to be allowed to
state his reasons for voting for :the second tearing ut this
Bill. • He had no t voted fr r the secrint reading upon
the conviction that the securities which it offered were
sufficient, but because he hoped that sutficiee t tecurit.es
, mould be introduced in the Committee which es oitld
enable him to support the Bill in a tutu e stage. tie
had made an effort to calch their Lordships attenti en
on the test night, beet was unsuccessful. The senti-
ments which so humble an individual eta akin -d oh
any subject was a matter °lsmail sinportaece to their
Lordshipsr• but, by declining to press himself on the
attention of the House on the second night's debate, he
had given way to the Right Reverend helm! Mho
opened the deba'e °Tyke second night, and to anet'llr
Rev. Prelate who haNiveied into a most luminous and
able argument on this question. If he env Doke of
Rutland) had not made up his mind to • sati-t -ctory
conclusion on t'sis cots ion, it was n t for watts f his
having given it a calm, dispassionate, and. he m ,let
say a painful consideration. As tar as his intellectual," -
powers enabled him, he h*l given this subject the
deepest attention. He wished he could now sa; that Pe
was enabled to give the measure his support /ac/o et
libenli amity°. He VI AS denied that gratificats m, however,
And he and others who concurred with him in • pit inh
now felt them elves called upon either to suppoet or
oppose this nieasure, under feelings of rein Jaficritry,
pain, and einbarrasim- q.t. It was im,,oss,bee to siet• pt
either c'ur e *WI satisfaction. If he .0 pouted the
mea,ure h • toeing that the beneficial eff•cts wl.ic , it
was intended to pro 'uce were n erely speculative slid
themetical—(Cheers). On the ot!.er ha d, it he •pa
posed it, he could not heap seeing that t e irk vim. of
the mea ure might be attended with many evil conse-
quence:, not the least of which would be the titesk,ng
up e,f an Administration, in the Members of a (rich in.
olvithsally he placei great conid.•nce, ai.d for the
neral policy -pursue. by whom tie th..ught the tou,as y
was much indebted; Much ha. already been ,aid at
both sides. Their Lordships had heard many curl /gni
speech, s, and many able arguments had beets urged in
and ow of that House, In his opinion, hoe eve'. the
question lay a ithin a very irariou comrafs. The ques-
tion was, whether there was a dominant and i iii vat us
asece_sity for a change in our Constitutional peu!sc7 as
regarded the Rom .n Cathol cs? and, ' assume g that
such a n-cessity existed, whether, under all the
stances; 11. e measure now under cnnside, mime was the
suGst. the 4. nest, and the best that could be su ,neitt
to Par hammit ? Su. h merethe role. tion., in hi, opini,h,
slid) their L 'chirps had to confider, and no t Omni.
Wish regard to tl e first ques ion I e might tay, that
los king to the state of feverish excitement wheels pi e-
railed an conseque,ce of the Legislature having; so lung
resisted the claims of the Catholics, and assurrei• p, rn
the first place, that the Catholic Associati-is cr uls nr t
be lut am by the ordinary operations 4)1 the law, mud
the di franchisement of the I. esti 40, It eehnicet b could
not he carried into effect without the other conceinitact
measures—thinking both those ineasuies eel t e gurateit
possible importance, he could come to no other con-
clusion than that these was a pressing and tngeot ne-
cessity for the adjustment of the quer', ion. W.th oespett
to the question el securities, he regretted that they the
not go to the extent which lie cooid have wished. His
ojection .refet red pat tictilarly to the e•ffice. from which
[Conan Catholics were to be excluded. He wished
'hat souse other offices had been included amongst thole
esceptit.ns. He alluded esp-cialey to the office I f the
head of his M ejesty's Government. Ile thought ,bit
Roman Catholics should be excluded, not only Vista-
ay, but positively, from this office. He confessed he
was n•-t one of t• ore who thought that, at the momei t
the present Bill should be passed into a law, at that.
same mement the knellof the Protestant Constitution
would be sounded. He did not think thst the boated
chatter of British liberties would by this measure !a-
ctive a moths! stab. He could not agree wit's those
Noble Lords who would say that when it would pAD,.J-;
" Yeah aseittna dies et ineluttabiie tcmpos."
He thought utat, notwithstanding the pies.mt 88, the
country wood continue many reins, and -t.the woad
should la .t so long, massy centdties, in possession of her
present glory, sod happiness,. He thought CathoLc
Emancipati./n would ti t in any measure alter tl'e state
of the country in that respect. But their Lordsh-pi
should recollect that it was not, a life interest doors
which they enj syed in the state, but should lock to it in
reference to then latest posterity. - He hoped when the
present measure should pass into a law that the expec-
tations of the Noble Duke woul.l be realised, Cod that
all irritations and asperity should gradually cease. He
would say to every Prose:tent, it you ale deo rosined