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London, England, 1817-02-08 00:00:00

pledged to. its pieserVitiofi, aóã he should sleek
regret the loss of character, and the mischief to
the country which Elitist emir; W -it we* resorted
to for the seritite of the year (Hear, !sear, hear.) =s-
But how was this to sitttildetit--Why, by retrench-
ment and adolitinn, hear, 1 and he 111 glad to
find that Ministers waned to de at last impressed
with the necessity of the ease. The recommenda-
tion, and the exarhple of retrebehment, came Litt,
certainly; he did. not sheen to ray from Ile Priebe
Regent, but from his Ministelote him. (Hear, har.)
Had it beep done twelve rnonthi ago, he was satis-
fied that much of the discdntent and distrait Which
noir prevailed would have been saved to she coml.

try.—(Hear, hear.) It appeared, too, that there was
to bemuse reduction in the salaries a the bightr
public officers, he rejoiced to beu it; bat was it not
strange, that a measure calculated to render his Ma-
jesty's Ministers so very popular, had not bees brought
forward much earlier ? Why did they delay it till
pressed by the complaints of the people, and the
alarming (Ennis is which the country was involved ?
But the Noble Lord says. as Act of Parliament will
be necessary to authorise the reductions intimated to
the House. He recollected, Sir James Pulteney gave
op his salary without an Act of Parliament, and
why was an Act necessary now ? —(Near, kw).—
The Noble Lord had instanced the reduction of 17

millions in the taxes last year, in proof of the dispo-
sition if Government to moonier, and boasted of
the surrender of the Property Tax ; but Ministers had
not given up the sum stated, till they were absolutely
compelled to it by the votes of that House—(Near,
limier.) Such facts were the best answer to the Peti-
tioners for ROOM in Parliament. They need Dent
mind Boroughtnongers and the like, when the Re.
presentation was sufficient to destroy a, measure like
the Property Tax, to which the Gentlemen opposite
clung with so much fondous—(hear, hear,)—and he
trusted the House would persevere in the same spirit
to do its duty to the country, and insist upon every
practicable retrenchment in every department. He
now came to speak of the Committee. The new
mode which the Noble Lord has adopted, 'thews that
be has learned something by the experience of a for-
mer evening'. He is not disposed to lave another
ballot result read to the House before the lists were
given in—(Near, asid larzheer.) This they had been
told was an old joke of Mr. Sheridan, but meet was
an &ilk*. played off with so much effect—(flan.)
It was pretty evident that his old friends would not
support another ballot j so the Noble Lord comes
forward, with an air of great candour, and tells the
House he gives it up.—(Hari hear.) The Idomosit-
tee now to be adopted was similar to that which was
proposed by his Noble Friend last year, to examine
into the expenditure and income of the year. So fat
it was entitled to supports but it ought not to take
the business of retrenching offices and making reduc-
tions along with it; if so, it would be like a dragnet
for all kind of grievances, and the House would never
see it above water again.---(Haar, hear.) He ob•
served, that there had been a Board of Commis-
sioners appointed to examine into useless offices last
year. Why was not their Report upon the tabfeY—
(Neer, MO There was so much shoaling in the
measures proposed by his Majesty's Ministers upon
agslabject. that he bad oo madam in any thing
did. The Committee be waotailotd_wtOch. he
to have,- if possible, should have full powe
to examine into all public offices, and to report all
that were useless, or paid extravegiuitly. In •
there ought to be three Committees for the porpoise
one to examine the Military Establishment, compre-
hending the Staff and Commissariat, another the Co.
lonial. and a third the Civil bepartment.—(Near.)
The Noble Lord bad said, this ought not to be re-
garded a piny qoesdon. If he meant that it was
one in which persoos holding offices ought not to in-
terfere, he (Mr. Tierney) agreed with him. He was
thoroughly convinced thet party was Mendel io the
welfare of the country. He had always been a party
man, and always should remain so. He felt that the
present question shoold not be treated, however, as a
cosiest for office, though party feeling would have a
beneficial influence in the investigation. The ascea-
dewy of either side of the House. was not the object
of the discussion, but the permanent interests of the
country.--(liser,• hear).—The Noble Lord had a-
pressed himself very angry with a set of persons who
were of no party, and who were therefore, as it seem-
ed to his Lordship, good for nothing-=but be (Mr.
Tierney) thought the Noble Lord treated these poor
Neutrals a great deal too roughly.--(llran hear, aid
krigherr).—Mere proper persons •he could not con-1
ceive for Committees such as that for which the
Noble Lord now moved. Although these Gen-
tilesa were now treated with indignity, he recol•
hued that some few yeas since, when a conflict
;tau power was w is that Home, the Neutrals
jibed one of theacellligerents, and were placed on
lihe staff immediately..—(teed eel remehted heashier).
The Noble Lord said, that these Neutrals were treated
unterinamionsly, and with contempt at all times,
reir.liaelleypasti:as
4, hilt steep was not • the fa
Meads. axva. t:
throes
so, Mt when they traded under false colours--
(Lerehrir)—for, with whatever flag they.started on'
the , they always carried other oboes in sties'
bold, so • whenever they came in contact wish a
esemy—(Loq maim laseiter).—Astatir
VMS. read over by the Noble-Lord, there was
OW that struck him as peculiarly improper for such
*Mk. He could hardly expect that those who held
offices, would be ready to recommend the abolition
of them, however useless they might be; the,r was
one of the Joint-Paymaren named a‘engle
whom be thought objectionable on this ground. for
to him it appeared that the office which that Gentle-'
man held was totally ueslem—(fisor, hear).—The
Noble Lord-bad spoke of the propriety of' Mein
men in office on the Committee, us order that it may
be pithead by their meal. Tie was willing that;
they d'
shoul go as Counsel the Committee, but that
said the Right honourable Geatlemaa al I wanttbss
to sit there before me, and am beside me." (Hoer.)
He objectetto those perso.assitting_in the jury-boa.
who were deeply interested in the trial—(iher).—
&gismo not the awe as Lord Henry Petty's Corn-
mines ; not a single man-in office was appointed, and.
each ought to be the rule to be observed now. He
should certainly divide the House an the second Part
of the instructions in the Noble Lord's condos. He
thought then amid be a roman Committee for the
hasiosas at that iasteemon, composed of twill
blentbore chilly, who would set about the irorh with