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Of A sudden, that a great degree of mu muting had duty should go on decreasing es,: as the average rose
'wad among them. He then sent for the oldest of his one, until the price arrived at was 70s.
se'deants, who told him that the men were induced to Mr. C. GRANT said, that with respect to the spring
believe that Sir Francis Bordett had dune away with corn, the ordinary measure of value had been to treat.
wpm,' punishment ; and he was actually obliged to barley as of one-half the value if wheat, and oats one•
make an example lif one man to restore order in his third of the value. The Committee of 1842 had thought
regiment. It was only the power that British Officers that estimate rather too low, and had been disposed to
snot-d; they were not disposed to use that power, add a little to the relative value of the oats and barley.
oleo wry other means had failed. Let any Hon. The Right Hon. Gentleman then stated that, upon con-
member shew by what other means he could preserve sideration, Ministers had come to the determination of
military discipline, and he would at once give his proposing a higher duty upon the importation of oats
sanction for removing this evil, which lie now felt to be and barley than that which was originally submitted to
a neceisity one. the House. What the alteration was he would state
The amendment was then negatived.—On the ques- when the Committee should come to the Resolutions
'hoe that the 1111 do pass, respecting those kinds of grain.
Sir R. WILSON observed, that the strokes given The Resolution was carried.
stab the Art of the sword, did not cut or bruise. It Upon the moving of the second Resolution, et that
roast be recollected that the Prussian army entered whenever the price of wheat should be at or above 70s.
Trance ander feelings of great irritation. When they the duty shall be, for every quarter, Is."
stigmatised the troops of foreign nations let them be Mr. CALCRAFT and Mr. CURWIN severally expressed
just, and recollect what kind of orders General Aber- their approval of the intention to increase the duty on
alembic was compelled upon one occasion to issue; the importation of oats.
and the orders also which were issued by the Duke of Mr. WODEHOUSE said he did not rise to prolong
Wellington, on the retreat from Bad.jos. The conduct this discussion. He should merely state to the Corn.
Jibe French troops during the recent occupation of mittee, that at a future period he should submit two
Senn, had been uniformly good. Resolutions, on which he was determined to take the
Sir H. IA ARDINGE said, the French troops had sense of the House. The first pioposi-ion was, that •
entered Spain as friends; when the British troops certain proportion of the duties to be levied on foreign•
entered France they were taking possession of an grain should be paid on duty at the Boaid of Customs—
enemy's country. He had himself, during the retreat (Hear)—the 'proportion to be determined with respect to
of the French troops from Spain, towards the concha- the several sorts of grain and with respect to the ship-1
air n of the last war, assisted to break open the doors of meats, whether made in English vessels or those of other
a house, from which they set free forty women, all of countries. His second proposition had reference to the
vhern were deplorably emaciated and diseased from article of oats. There were certain peculiarities at:ached
the brutal treatment they had undergone, on the past to it. In the first place vessels could carry much mese
of the French soldiery who had preceded them on their of oats than of any other grain. Oats might he loaded
tone. up to the hatches without inconvenience, while if so
lilt. HUME thought it extraordinary that the Gal- loaded with wheat they would go to the bottom. The
lint Officer should compare British soldiers with the cultivation of it was an object of great interest to the
felons in the Penitentiary. As to the doubts thrown poor soils of England, Scotland, and Ireland. He should
upon the horrible recital of his Hon. Friend, by another therefore propose some limits to its insportaticin. With
Gallant Officer, the vet diet of the Coroner's Inquest respect to the general measure proposed by Government
ought to be believed until it was authoritatively and he should support it, and he thought it highly creditable
decisively contradicted.—(Loud cries of" Question.") to them. With respect to oats, however, if tome limi-
Sir H. H ARDINGE said, that if he stayed thete till cation could be introduced, it would be a matter of
tomorrow he would not suffer so unfair and untrue an serious moment.
insinuati.m of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen to pass Mr. FERGUSSON said, that the country was in
en. mice& He had not compared the British soldiers debted to the Right Hon. Gentleman for having deter.'
pith felons. He had only adduced a case to prove the gained to increase the duty on oats, without which ho
necessity of corporal punishments, and it was a remark- was sure the greatest injury would have resulted to the
ably strong one, as it was a case in which it had been agricultural interest of Scotland.
thought possible to dispense with them. Mr. Secretary PEEL requested the Committee would 1
Mr. HUME—Then why speak of felons, if they had abstain from entering into any further diicussion re-
:cabins to do with the subject under discussion ? specting oats or barley, until the resolutions respecting
Sr H. HARDINGE would again repel the indecent those grains came before them. As a proof of his own
and absurd imputatioa. He knew what it meant—it forbearance, he would not even noticethe unjust attack
was intended to undermine the discipline of our troops made upon Government by the Member for Preston
nor abroad.

Mr. Wood), in which he had applied the coast es•
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Mr. HUME (amidst great confusion in the House)
repeated his previous observations, and appealed to the
House if such motives cs-uld be fairly imputed to him.
Sir H. HARDINGE would leave the Ho-ourable
Member the full benefit of his illiberality.
tiir H. VIVIAN, in reply to one observation of the
Honourable Member, could only say, that he had never
had the misfortune to meet with a military surgeon who
watt' suffer a soldier to be flagged so as to endanger
his life.—Tbe Bill was then passed.
The ion►er consideration of the Bribery at Medians Bill was
poqyoneil to this day mennight.
lit. Savory wu called to the bar, and being sworn, deposed
that be was a medical man attending the Marquis of Sandford,
and that the Noble Marquis was disabled by indisposition from
attending a Comt.sittee of the House, and that for two or three
days It would be unsafe for his to leave Mt room. The Marquis
of Medford was accordingly excused from further attendance.

pression of " bullied" to Ministers.-.(Hear.)
Mr. PORTMAN said, that the landed interest had
gone as fir as possible in conceding that 60« should
be considered the minimum price; and if the present
measures should fail, they (the landed Interest) would
be compelled to turn round on the Government, in
which he was convinced they would have the Support
of the whole country.
After a few words from Colonel Woop, Mr. Alder-
man TwolerseN, Lord Mitrozaed Sir Joan Nawirour,
which were interrupted by louderics of." question."
Mr. Alderman WA ITHMAN complained, that the
trading interests were denied a hearing upon this impor-
tant subject, and that every effort was made to put
down their voice by clamour. The question was not
now upon wheat, but 00. OAS (Laughter.)
The CHAIRMAN interrupted the worthy Alderman

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THZ CORN LAWS. to inform him that the question upon wheat had not
Mr. CHARLES GRANT moved the Order of the been yet disposed of.
Day for a Committee of the whole House upon the
of o
Mrr. AId.WAITHMAN replied,that whether disposed
question of the corn trade.
the discussion for MRS* time had exact-
On the question h r the SPZAZZR.II leaving the chair, sively turned upon oats and berley, and not upon wheat.
The resolution was thin Fat and carried without a divisiso.
Mr. W. J. DENISON said, that he supported the
resolution of Ministers, and he believed with the con-
The CHAIRMAN then put the neat Resolution,
turrence of his constituents. Sonic change as to the
which was, that " whenever the price, of barley was
terms of the spring. corn (the oats and barley) he L2si.
and under 335. the duty upon every quarter shall
thought might, perhaps, be made with advantage in '
the Committee ; but as to the wheat, he was entirely Mr. WHITMORE deprecated in the strongest terms
agreed. He differed entirely from those Gentlemen the passing of so oppressive a law as must arise out of
alto these Resolutions. He was persuaded that. the eyes of desired to see a fresh alteration in the currency. In
1819, he had no doubt bat that it would have been the country would at length be opened to the tremen-
better to have changed the standard ; but to make any dour erns
Ann in which the recent alteration had been
evils of such a system. He likewise complained
change now would only bete do fresh mischief. He
of
was very anxious, however, to see the old Winchester th
effected in the details of this measure.
TO
measure restored throughout the country. the departure Lord ALHRP could not concur io his Hon.
from which had occasioned much inconvenience. Under Friend's strong opinion of this measure. The import
the existing arrangement. we were obliged to import price, which the present Resolutions altered, had been
wheat by the Winchester measure and sell it by the at 80s. the price at present substituted could not exceed
Imperial. nOs. and would not, he thought, be 575. per quarter, so
Mr. CURTEIS differed from the Hon. Member for that by the change the consumer profited to the amount
Surrey on the question of the currency, and wished to of 235. With respect to the alteration in the details, it
see the 14 notes restored. He was desirous that the met his approbation—indeed, the proportion was rather
country should reborn to the old system of theWinchesta taken below the mark, for the expense of growing bar-
measure. The present state of things was inconvenient. ley was two thirds that of producing wheat.
Mr. Alderman WOOD complained of the manner
Mr. J. WOOD said, that the resolutions of Ministers in which the resolutions had been altere.d. No attempt
had spread alai= throughout the manufacturing Ms- was made to conciliate the people out of doors, but
tracts, and well this might be the case, since their first every influence was used to command the votes within.
effect liad been to raise the price of corn Ss. or 6s. a Sir JOHN NEWPORT condemoed the attemjits
quarter. He disapproved of the plan of weekly averages which had, been made to separate into classes the int-
entirely, and thought that its effect would be to convert wrests of the people. If the agriculturists were not
Merk•lane into a second Stock Exchange; and, for die protected, the manufacturers must suffer. Ireland WAS
settlement talked of as effected with respect to the
currency, it seemed to him only to be settled by an agricultural country—how could she deal with Eag-
land for manufactured goods, if her produce was not
an Act of Parliament, which he was quite sure would
encouraged at a remunerating price?
never be c.pable of being carried fully into effect.— . ra.r.
He hoped it was not true, as was rumoured out of LEnis had not condescended to tell the House the HOBHOUSE was surprised that his Majesty's
doors, that Ministers meant to let themselves be "''
bullied by the landed interest into laying any fur- reason why they considered a deviation from their first
thee restrictions upon the importation of oats and barley. proposition necessary. He knew what was the opinion
ot' the country relative to his Majesty's Ministers—an
Mr. CRIPPS said, that he gave his opinion as con-
o inion which had been begotten by their undecided
netted both with agriculture and manufactures; and he
was decidedly in favour of the Resolutions. He believed conp duet. The Public thought that such a vacillating.,
disjointed Government was not worth twopence—(A "
that they could do no mischief to the manufacturing
interest, and that the manufacturers in his part of the laugh)—that it could not exist. He would ask, Waal
country (Gloucestershire) were well satisfied with them would have become of the propositions of the Right. Hon. Gentleman if they had not been supported by the
He id.d not think, however, tha in that part of E.ig-
Opposition side of the House?—(Cheers and laughter},
1... d the existing rents could betmainained, subject to Thor were only carried by a majority of 60, and this
the plan ; because they had been calculated for the
might surely have been prevented it the Opposition
molt part upon the assumption that corn was to bear had been that mean place hunting set they were de-
"l a'retage price of 645. The Hon. Member, after de-
r scribed to be—(Laughter). ,
'cling the expediency of throwing the lighter lands or
Mr. Secretary PEEL observed, that the Hon. Mem.
t!'e tc,untty out of cultivation, and stating that he her had been diverted, by his indignation against hie'
thought the greatest advantage had resulted from their Majesty's Ministers, from the real question before the
"Ploy ment, concluded by supporting the views of the Committee. He (Mr. P.) should have thought, had be
lion Member lor Surrey, as to the return from the Im-
perial to the Winchester measure. entered the House ignorant of the matter at issue,th at hi.
' Majesty's Ministers had been guilty of some scandalosis
The House then went int* a Committee, and the &St dereliction of duty, whereas they had merely added a
Resolution was read from the Chair—to wit, that the little farther protection to Wrier- Was the Govern-
cial Von foreign corn. when the average price in this merit of the country so constituted that it could not,
country was 60, should be 20s. a quarter, and that the „ropoae to the House an alteration iu a proposition