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Prince Resent?Ordesed to lie ea the table, thit declaration, by adding, but not in • ..e''
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On the question being put that the Petition be House, but in aCourt ofolu.tice. This was a filet
erdered.to be printed, , -on the Constitution; that was an inquiry which
Mr. C. WYNN said, he had not opposed this Pe. never be obtained, though what had already L..
tition being received, but he could not consent to proved, spewed further inquiry was necessary 7
the
.present
motion. This Petition charged.. that per- was asserted that the rioters went to St. Peter'ylieblt
sons had been unjustly dragged to the :enfold ; this 1 taking with them tart loads of stones; n 0,,, ,in 0 ;_,-'
was an insult to the laws of the country, and be quiry at Yor*, it appeared that the asterisms ~.a
could not consent to having it printed. founded. %Id) respect to printing the p -•- n • emit): be
Mr. G. BENNETT defended the Petition, mid tb, thought, as it had been received, it folloued .2%
motion for its being printed. lf the Hon. Gentleman matter a course, it should be printed.—te h --11
thought the Petition might be received, it followed, then divided t—Ayes for printing* 08—Noes, 13"11
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as a mattet of course that it should- be printed. If Majority,. 66.
the Ron. Gentlemen thought the Petition unfit to. be MR. JOHNSON'S CASL
nor,
received, he shbuld have come forward fairly, and Mr. HOBHOUSE, adverting' to the'std
have Opposed its being received. He was not now which had appeared in the public journal. with,.
defending all parts of the Petition; it was perhaps :peat to the refusal of the Secretary fin the HeL
true; it was perhaps false; but the Petition having Department to accede to the Petition, rtining th-it"
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been received, he would not give up the printing, Mr. Johnson, who was at present a prisoner in Le
which followed as a right of the Petitioners ; and he Castle, in consequence of his appearance at the 4,67
would take the sense of the House upon it. Chester Meeting: might be allowed to go and whir
Lord BINNING reprobated the language of. the wife, who was in a dyny, state, in the vicini.y q
Petition. He bad not opposed the Petition being re. Manchester, and isho was now no mere; took oct.a.,
ceived, but he would oppose its being printed. He sion to ask the Under Secretary of State whether the
had a right to do so, else why was the question as to statement alluded to was correct, and it so, upon lout
its being printed or not, put ? He hoped his. Hon. ground the Noble Lord at the head of the De2nr.
Friend would divide the House upon it. 'tient thought fit to refuse ;he permission soi,cittd
Sir IL WILSON was not called on to defend the under such peculiar circumstance.?
whole of this Petition :he would not say, that men Mr. CLIVE knew nothing of the facts .4 theca%
had been dragged against law to the scaffold; but he He bad heard that a Petition had been ',resell:,,; by
would say, that men had been cut down contrary to the individual tinder conviction, for permission torn
law, and his Majesty's Government had screened the his wife, but could not tell the grounds on tvlncit it
guilty, and even rewarded them—(Hear, hear.) He was refused.
was a few days since in a Court of Law, when an The ATTORNEY-GENERAL stated th.tt dn.
Honourable Friend of his, a Member of the House, Secretary of State for the nonce Department hif is
was brought up for judgment, for having expressed this case no power. The object sought to be as.
his .seotiments .on this subject, and he then heard a tamed could only have been effected by a pardonn.
Learned Judge say, no man in this countr7 would a remission of the sentence ; and that, under ail the
sustain injury, and not find law to redress him ; but circumstances, had not been deemed advisable.
t e denied it; for he had been endeavouring, for 18 To a question from Mr. Hormone, as to %via
months past, to discover a mode of redress for the period of the imprisonment remained unexpiredhso
unfortunate sufferers at Manchester; the Courts of ATTORNEY-GENERAL was ticable to answer.
Law were not open to them; and the House of Corn- SHERIFF OF CHESHIRE.
MOWS, which alone had the power to redress, turned Mr. CREEVE Y moved that the Petition of the%
a deLif ear to them.- . . ' • - : ' . -...
.• of February, from the Freeholders of the Conley nr
Lord CASTLEREAGH-thought an'apolOgy due Chester, should be read.—(The Petition accoraittgly
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was read, which has been already before the Puble4
Ad.tlei•Honse,. for detaining,theni tointsWer the speech
He then proceeded to state, that another Addrere,h.
;of the.g.allatit General whe;hadjest sat down ; but
he felt. it ft:ght: to say,: tint .the speech of the 'gal- sides the first, had been moved by Lord Groom,
lane.ceperis,witi jetenodcd zathet to •irritate and in. and seconded. But- the Sheriff took on hamar sis
flame the, -feelings- of • the - peiiple out of doors, than
to convince the Hpuse. The' 'Honourable 'Gentle-
n had • chi Mid the Governatent Vith screening
Murderers f.rdm . tile Jaw.. * .Is -I,eris well for the, determine that the amendme t could not be put; ad
of himself, without a division, affirmed that deo-
ma Sinai Address had been carried. II that was theme,
then, a numerous body had been deprived efike
tounttyohni..the iiennurnme :gentleman had no right of petitioning. An Act of Pat 'lament, of 111
ttenfdns. foe hid avertion-,-ft was IiOY in the power Ot.
mint to iheltet offenders from the lasv'ifi.i..
"GOD forbid iiii:rittempt shoulditier be. siiadef
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respect,ta.the transactions
.at Nimbi:leerhid asserted in the strongest manner the rightufp,
*lotting, and a Petition havin teen presented, NO
With- plaiiiing of Sir George Jeffrey's having violated cis
, nine the -right to petition, the complaint was referred to s
conduct Of Government towards tliose•Who took a Committee. The Committee decided that the coos
Share in' it, he should never regreithe line-of conduct- `Plaint-s well founded. The House concurred with
he had adopted. ' He-thought those honeurablensee -the 'Committee, and an A ddre,s was can ito the '
had stood forward to opperse the vieWs'of those whose Throne for the removal of Sir Geo.ge•Jeffrey. -He
intentions had been to overturn 'all the eitablishnients should move to refer the Petition to a Committee, to
of the country. The Magisirates Of Manchester hhd ascertain the facts ; and shduld the Committee 6ad
received the thanks of: the- Government; their con- them to be true, he should on a future day bring the
duct had been approved by the House and by the coilduct of the Sheriff before the Hott.e. The subject
People, althongh they had not been So fortunate as was at present of peculiar importance, 1 .roni the ddi.
to obtain tl:e approval of the gallant General ; and culty of procuring a fair expression of public opi ice, .
he must be allowed to say, if the gallant General as the Sheriffs were averse to call Public Meetings
really believid the assertions he had made, of per- When a Meeting was called, it was sou much for de
sons being murdered, it was his duty to exert him- Sheriff to make himself the sole organ of the .‘leeting.
self to bring the murderers to justice; and such would It was not enough for the Clergy to describe thew
have been his conduct, had he not preferred making selves as the only loyal part of the community, be
a speech to inflame public feeling, rather than to they must also abuse all who differed frtm tl.es;
exert himself to obtain justice for individuals. -and at the Chester Meeting, such men as Lurd Gros-
Sir It. WILSON never made assertions which he venor and Lord Crewe could not be. heard. lte
was not ready to prove. lie charged individuals Honourable Member then read an Addlesc tram the
at Manchester with murder ; and he was ready to Diocese of Chester, and from the Wellington Club;
prove it--(Hear' hear). and contended, that they arrogated to themselves
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, the 11 General exclusive loyalty. Withrespect to the Borough d
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might proceed before the ordinary Trii
' Sir M. RIDLEY did not approve of the language
of the Petition ; but, as it had been received, he
thought it should be printed.
Mr. B. WILBRAHAM and Mr. Ulm-lunar were
against the Petition being printed.
Mr. PHILLIPS condemned the proceedings at
Manchester, and supported the printing the Petition.
Mr. S. WORTLEY could not sit silent and hear
individuals charged with murder. If• the gallant
General believed the charge he made, why did he
not prefer his Bill before the Grand Jury, and do
this Assizes after Assizes, till the Bill was found ?
The question of murder was not one which could be
tried in that House. GOD forbid it ever should. Ile
called on the gallant General to bring forward his
proof in a Court of Justice, If he had any such proof,
and not bring them forward in a place where they
could not be answered.
Sir It. WILSON said, the Inquest at Oldham fur-
nished proof. That Inquest was broken up for irre-
gularity ; but a majority of the persons had declared,
they would have found a verdict of Wilful Murder.
Mr. BROUGHAM submitted to the House, that
this Petition contained no reflections on the House
which should operate to prevent jts being printed,.
AU the reflections were on Ministers ; and the Noble
Lord had candidly declared, he knew no limits be
wished should be set to such comments. With respect
to the Manchester businesi, he regretted exceedingly
that the Grand Jury had thrown out the Bills pre.
ferred before them. If the Bill had been sear to sr
Petty Jury, a decision would. have taken place one
way or other.
Mr. LUSHINGTON opposed the Petition being
printed, on the ground of its containing matter die.
respectful towards the House. - •
Mr. WYNN repeated his objections against the
Petition being printed.
Mr. MANSFIELD objected to its being-printed%
' Mr. DENMAN wished to set himself riglit ; he had
not objected to the language of the Petiuon ; on thi
contrary, he had said he saw nothing in its language
disrespectful to the House. He then commented ms
the language of the Petition, and observed, it was ne.
torious that the people had been fanned into seditka
by spies and informers—(Hear, hear):—With respect
to the Manchester business, he was surprised Mtnie:

Harwich, that Corporation also addressed the Crows
But Harwich was exclusively a Treasury Borough.
Should the two New Zealand Chiefs, lately is the
country, have been sent down from the Tinsley,
they would have been sure of their election. Redo
commented on the Address, and said that all he asked
for was, that the Freeholders of Chester should hew
the same means of addressing the Crown as ale
worthy, loyal, and rotten Borough of Harwich. Of
the Sheriff of Cheshire he knew nothing, but if Illtv
statement in the. Petition was true, he had does*
tremely wrong. He concluded by moving, the*
Petition be referred to a Select Committee, to invite
and report to the House.
Mr. DAVENPORT stated that the Sheriff watt
man of independent character and fortune ; and had,.
he done wrong, it must have proceeded from *dr
ror of judgment. The Sheriff belonged to a 0.211
of Yeomanry, but that was no proof of his bele
party man, as the Corps was composed equalller
Whigs and Tories: Before the House acceded to
the motion, they should pause and recollect that
was no light matter fora Sheriff to have his code's
attacked. The situation was one of much difficult!,
and due allowance should be made for it.
Mr. EGERTON (the other County Menthet) reel'
a letter from the Sheriff in explanation cf his con'
• duct, stating- that his motives had been mittge,t;
sensed. He had not refused to put the amended o.°'
dress, though he would have been warranted in se
doing. The original Address Wad been cirried by 11'
great majority,: and from the confusion that re',
vailed, a division was impossible. The restorst."_,
of the Queen's name to the Liturgy formed ne Peg
of the Requisition ; for had that been the case, fog
more Freeholders would have attended. The letter
of the Sheriff concluded by stating that he
ceived the most flattering testimonies of the aPPiw—
tion of the Freeholders. 'The Honourable Member
also confirmed this statement from his own know.
ledge, and read a letter from the Under-Sheriff, thet.
the omission of the word inhabitants was to be or
puted to him, and that he had framed the summon.
in.the usual form.
Mr. GIPPS hoped, that unless some more sir:
charge-was brought against the Sheriff, no Tree
ins would be necessary.
-Dlr: PHILLIPS stated 'that the MO was Isibir