Star.
London, England, 1828-07-08 00:00:00

discussions as the present, which only went forth to the
Colonies and did mischief. The present was a subject
of grave discussion, and if no one else brog;ht forward
the question of abandonment raised by the Hon: Menthes
(Mr. A. Baring), he would do so, in order in have it
thoroughly examined. He protested against any im-
putation of disloyalty on the part of the Canadas, and
knew if it transpired there that that House entertained
any idea that a wish for separation was entertained •by
them, these Provinces would repel it with disdain. •
Mr. WARBURTON said, that in answer to the
speech of the Hon. Member (4r. A. Baring). wtoth
abounded in political wisdom, the Right Hon. Secretary
for the Colonies. had not given a single argument. For
himself, he looked upon this vote of 30,0001. merely as
a prelude to the 8,000,000/. mentioned by the Finance
Committee. He did not know what the evidence before
that Committee was, wherefore he only looked to the
petitions and the proceedings of the Legislature there,
to prove the discontent of Canada. In his opinion no
colony was worth the keeping which could only be kept
up by onerous charges on the mother country. He would
therefore vote against the proposition.
Lord HOWICR also opposed it, contending that
nothing could be more impolitic than incurring so large
an expenditure for a purpose which in the end could
not be accomplished. The House and the country had
a right to expect from his Maje-tr's Government an
expose of the general policy which they intended to
pursue in reference to the Canadas. It was perfectly
evident that sooner or later a separation must take
place, and both the Mother Country and the Colony in
question ought to be gradually prepared for that sepa-
ration. He thought that communication ought to be
opened with the Canadas, in Order to ascertain their
wishes, its to how and when that separation ought to be
brought about. Finally, be observed, that it was not
becoming in Ministers to come forward asking grants
of money without laying before the House anything
like a detailed view of the course which they meant
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ti timatery to adopt.
Mr. HUSKISSON was glad that he bad not,•at an
earlier period of the evening; addressed the Committee,
for he was desiroiti of being f atified by some high
ipilitory authority in the views which he took of the
present question; and he felt much pleasure in being
able to state that be had been so-supported by his Right
Bon. mi d-Whilst Ptieod, the Colonial Secretary. He
could iit4 !give with the Member for Preston that the
United states bad not the ambition to possess themselves
c 4 -4. i much British territory as they possibly could.--;.
They bad' evinced that disposition on several occa-
sions, and he believed they still entertained it in full
strength. It had been well said during the present dis-
cussion, tliat if the Canadas were suitably fortified, there
would be little danger of attack from the United States.
This ireth iterwed abundant illustration from the ev. nts
sg lOC Bat (or the unexampled difficulties in which
etis cOtantrf was placed at that period, and but for the
hapetfict. defence: Which the Canadas possessed, there
Could not be'the slighteit doubt that we should never
b.O experienced aggression in that quarter; and that
the blood of fellow subjects which had been
shed, and the millions of our treasure which bad been
, .
expsetyled, would have been saved to this country,
had Canada been in a better state to repel hostility,
or had England been less burdened with the war
in Europe. It was therefore he felt that no mea-
sures could be wiser than those which had for t'leir
ottjec' t to strengthen the means of defence now poWs
sessed in that colony. The expenses of such a
contest were enormous, and the most enlarged eco-;
awry would consist in averting an occurence of that
'aware, by the establishments of such 'forts as would
render aggresSion hopeless. Toe transport of troops to
Upper Canada was, in many cases, carried on at &net-
' penie of one thooiand pounds a day. Surely no under-
taking.of the nature *ow proposed could be considered
too costly, irits effect was to save the necessity of such
a ruinous expenditure as he had then alluded to. Was
the Committee prepared to say it would again under-
take a similar expense in the event of future aggression,
in tiecrtencj, the probability of :Thiel would be greatly.
increased `by the defences of the egoist; y befog. 1m in an
imperfect condition? It was impossible that we could,
without loss Of honour, abandon the defence of a loyal
people, and deny them that protection to which their al-.
kgiauce entitled them, and yet, if we proposed to resist
iheaggressions of the United States, we should, if de:ti-.
tote of fortifications, incur tenfold expense. He agreed
with theHon.Member for Callington, that possibly, some
hulkred years Bence, the connexion subsisting between'
this Country and the Capecias might cease; but the ques-
tion was, not whether someday or other they midst be
in a condition to assert their independence? but that
England should now give pp an immense territory to
aggrandise the republic of the United States. When the
Committee took into account the vast advantages result-
ing from the navigation of the St. L twrence, and the ge-
neral commercial WOO and maritime power which the
possession of the Canndas would confer upon the United
States, they must see that the loss of the Canada', in cir-
cumstances like the present, would at.no distant period
lead to the losiof the West Indies. If it could be proved,
as it 'had been asserted, that the loss of that Colony
would positively occur at the end of 50 years, he should
nevertheless consider the 2,000,0001. which were esti-
mated, as money well applied, considering the value and
objects of its application. If those provinces are to be
independent, let that great coosummatioa be effected in
the manner which it ought, and not suddenly, violently,
and disgracefully. When the Canada. have wealth and
population to set up for themselves, let them do so.by
all Mogi—let us oppose no unreasonable barrier—let
us profit by past experience—let us beware of a contest
whose remote consequences we are unable tofotesee. If
wietatioil 4144 Muse bo, icatikhind manage that it
-shalllie *4l itioi iii miielfadVanfage to the inte-
rests onatli patties as circumstances will permit. Let
bad tomitriginol themselves of their common origin
and there ciinitossilitticas.tO cement a friendly inter-
, cOi#l444l6isibit. AsicsttiCiefflance,mutuallybeneficial,
and askulated to proorfe and to perpetuate the indc-
pendenee of the ikegv world. ;huffed these considera-
tiOnilOrefti IST thilsde of totitly national or selfish.
vielr,s--alifiiii 144(0 ifpg:Wa. cir,b.,b, *4; kWh sairr-
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dilute to these, e patronage conoe.estlid With those colo-
nies. His object was to impressiapon do Committee the
oeielsitiaftotlint-tig alas hi ii cobditioo to resist
WO PrOlltic eittiftw`iir Os 1t§115,4) tift#4 and-
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more was it his object -ta se,* tint diaititceful'ahan-
flonment allies* Which swaged to -be advocated on
the other side.
Mi; aim depicd thit h 4.. BI: !fiend the, *ember
for CaliiigOo . had ;its fled ibe. disiniceftd
abandonment of slfieGiosidas i bat it again admitted by
the 14*e Duke at the, biraft 'oft bisliajeoy's Govern-
meni IS 4t Ehei ciigniiiiif lag 41440 Without the
c"ctialcA).!oiitfifios) W*l inbitifiali4:., . He conceived
the vote to be quite prematero, and should give it his
decided' Opoekicin. .
_. Mr. Secretary PlEgsL aid. thg Ifight Hon. Member
For €41106104 aPP4IIO
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