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London, England, 1828-05-20 00:00:00

ILIICTION LAW CONSOLIDATION lILL.

This Bill went through a Committee, and was ordered to be
read a third time on Monday next.

TaNRTN DISTRANCHISIMICIIT BILL.
The House having resolved itself into a Committees
Dlr. HARRISON addressed their Lordships on behalf of the elec-
tors of Penryn. He stated that his clients were anxious to produce
evidence; but his own opinion was that none was necessary.
The LORD CHANCELLt desired him to take till to-ntor-
row to consider whether he woo 'or not bring forward evidence.
The Howse adjourned at HALT-Tiber NINA o'CLocK. •

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Mr. LITTLETON presented a Petition from Wolverhampton'
against the Friendly Societies Bill.
Mr. PORTMAN presented a Petition from Dorchester, agalnit
aoy alteration of the Corn Laws.—Ordered to be printed.
The same Honourable MOISEa presented a Petition from Ware-
ham, in favour of the circulation of Small Notes.—Laid on the
table.
Also a Petition from Dorchester, against the Alehouse Lic:Ats-
log Bill.—Laid on the table.
Mr. RICE presented the Report of the Committee on Irish
Education.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. MONCK presented a Petition from the Surgeons of Read-
ing, praying thu interference of the House to remove • that difficul-
ties which impede Dissection.

lord EASTNOR presented* similar Petition from Hereford.—
Referred to the Committee.
Mr. AIALCOLM presented Petitions from Boston and Chester
against the Alehouse Licensing Bill.—Laid on the table.....
Sir J. NEWPORT presented a Petition from a place in King's
County against the Irish 'Vestry Act.—Laid on the table.
Sir T. GOOCH presented a Petition froni the vicinity of Bury
St. Edmund's** the subject of Wool.—Laid on the table.
Mr. SYKES presented a Petition from Hun in favour of the

circulation of ono pound notes. The Hon. Member stated his entire
concurrence in the player of the Petition.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. RICKFORD presented a Petition from Dormington, in
Salop, against any further concession to the Catholics.—Laid on
the table. . _ _ _ _ .

Lord BRUCE presented a Petition from Marlborough against
the Alehouse Licensing Bill.—Laid on the table.
Lord EBRI N GTO N presented a Petition from certain Licensed
Victuallers in Plymouth against the unlicensed sale, of Cider.—
Laid on the table.
Upon the motion of Lord L. Gowen, the Lords' Amendments
to the Pussengers Regulation Bill were agreed to.
Mr. HOBHOUSE presented a Petition front certain Ladies'
Boot and Shoemakers in favour of the free importation of foreign
corn. They complained that the duty having been lowered on the
importation of foreign shoes, their business was so much injured by
it that they could not afford to pay
the present price for bread,
much less any increase; and that all the Ladies' shoes worn at the
last Court were imported from France.—Laid on the table.
Mr. HOBHOUSE presented Petitions from some Friendly
Societies against the Friendly Societies Bill.
Mr. SUG DEN brought in a Bill to amend and consolidate the
laws relative to the payment of debts out of real estates.—Read a
first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Wednesday next.
Mr. HUME presented a Petition front the Roman Catholics of
a Parish in Cork, complaining of having to pay for the support of
the Protestant Church. The Hon. Member luny concurred in the
prayer of the Petition, and hoped the time was nut far distant when
the House would be of the saute opinion, and the wrongs of Ire-
land redressed.—Ordered to be printed. Also a Petition against
the Sub-letting Act.— Laid on the table.
Mr. HUME presented a Petition from certain Roman Catholics
and Protestant Inhabitants of Bristol in favour of Catholic Eman-
cipation. the reduction of Taxation, a total abolition of all Sinecures
and usele.s Offices, and equalization of Salaries according to the
depreciation in the value of money, the restoration of Church pro-
perty to its original purposes, sad Parliamentary 11,eform.—Ordered
to lie on the table.
Mr. HUME gave notice, that on Thursday he should move for
a Return of the number of persons confined for debt in the different
gaols of England.
Lord NUGENT presented a Petition front certain Inhabitants
of Sudbury, in favour of the Catholic Claims.
Mr. ()TWAY CAVE gave notice, that on that day fortnight
he should move for permission to bring in a Bill, the same in word
and substance as that which was carried through the House and
lost in the Lords last year, by his Hon. Friend the Member for
Northampton, for preventing the application of Corporate Funds
to Election purposes.

• WATER. OF 888
Sir F. BURDETT rose to present a Petition upon the subject
of the supply of water to the Metropolis, and he would take the
opportunity of inquiring of the Right Honourable, Secretary of
State whether any thing was intended to be done in consequence of
the Report which had been made by the Commissioners? When
the Commission was appointed, and a celebrated Engineer attached
to it, he did hope that something more was contemplated than an
inquiry into the extent of the evil, and that they would have been
required to point out a remedy. He thought a matter of so much
importance, so deeply affecting the comforts and the health of the
inhabitants of the metropolis, deserved the active interference of
the Government, and that they ought not to grudge two or three
hundred thousand pounds for such a purpose. He hoped to hear
something from the Right Hon. Gentleman u to what course it
was intended to take upon the Report.
Mr. Secretary PEEL said, he had read the Report
with very gre..t attention, and that it contained matter
of very great interest. The Report stated, that the sup.
ply of water t the metropolis had hitherto been pro-
viited by private individuals, who undertook it with
'sews of personal advantage, as that would undoubtedly
be the motive in all such undertakings. He really
thought that the evil had been over-stated. It appeared
that the northern part of the metropolis was supplied
by five sif these Companies, and that the consumption
of water amounted to 29 millions of gallons per day ;
which gave an average proportion of 180 gallons to
each house. It therefore was evident, that in respect
to quantity; the supply provided by the existing means
was ample. That was clearly established by the Ne-
vin.. Upon the question of quality, as to whether the
water was in such a stare as to be highly injurious to
health, he could not help thinking the evidence ratter
we wk -upon that point. The Report stated that the
water had X tendency to injure the health of the inha-
bitants of the metropolis, but no specific cases of injury
had been poiwed out. But upon the ground of feeling,
•rro one could deny, that to look at the Thames, and see
sn tunny nruseous ingredients mixed with the water.
which was to come in contact with the food, was ex-
trimely objectionable. It appeared that •this evil had
increased of Slate years, from the fact that the trade of
the .fishermen had been greatly injured by the disap-
pearance of the fish, they either having been destroyed
by, she insalubrious quality of the water, or been driven
totarte up their quarters elsewhere. It was said, too,
that the eels brought from the coast of Holland paid
the Thames water so bad a compliment as not to live
in it. It remaineAl to be ascertained whether the dele-
terious matter could not be removed from the water by
iitration. But even if that should fail, the question of
espense arose, and it was quite clear that the Govern-
ment ought not to undertake the supply of water to the
Metropolis at the public expense—(,Hear, hear). He
was convinced that no supply would be conducted so
well and so economically as by private companies. If
the health or the feelings of the inhabitants of the me-
tropolis required a fresh system of obtaining their wa-
ter, why should not new companies be supported for
that purpose? He protested against any such under-
taking being thrown upon the Government —(Cheers)—
and was satisfied that it ought to be left to private en-
terprise and speculation. As soon as the Report was
printed and circulated, he had no doubt that enterprise
*child be sufficiently active. He had, indeed, received
an application upon the subject that day, and many
others, proposing different schemes, since the agitation
of the subject. The matter would be best left to them,
and he was sure the Government ought not to incur the
expense of levels and surveys for such a purpose.
The SPEAKER reminded the House that the time had arrived
for the Conference appointed with the Lords.
CONTERTACZ WITH TUB L.I.M
Sir F. BUR Dr1"1 moved that the following Committee be ap.
pointed to conduct the Conference
Sir F. Burdett, islr.Secretary Huskision, Lord Palmerston, Mr.
C. Grant, Lord Dunc.mion, Mr. Calcraft, Mr. Doherty, Lord
Arthur Hill, Mr. Caulfield, Mr. Grattan, Mr. Brownlow, Mr. V.
Plitaiterald, Lord Morpeth, Sir J. Newport. Mr. Brougham, Mr.i
W. Wynn, Mr. Lamb, Lord Altborp, Lord Nugeru, Lord Ennis.
inner. Lord Clemints, Mr. Stanley, Mr. S. Rice, Sir J. Macintosh.
'The above Mainers then left the Howe and after a short
absence, during wlach the Speaker left the Chair, the Committee
returned, and appeared at the Bar, when
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT stated, that he had been to a con-
ferrals, with a Committee of the House of Peers, to whom he bad
esantoonicated the resolution of the House of Friday last, and had
received for answer that the resalosion would be taken into con,i.
situation by their Lotd.hips. . •
Mr. Id lIATHCOTE presented a Petition from Carnarvon, in
favour of a bury upon Foreign' Wool.—Laid on the table.
Mr. F. LEW IS moved let Returns of the quantity of Lead and
Lead Ore expiated during the last eight years, specifying the
amount In each year.--Oadeted.
Also for similar Better:is of the quantities of Pig and Roll Lead.
—Orde red.
Also for the imports of Copper and Lead since 1785, with the
quantities and amount of Duties in each year.
General G ASCOY NE postponed his motion relative to the de.
etta-e of British Stamen in the llerchant Service, from Tuesday
to Friday next.
Colonel CAVENDISH prevented a Petition from the Mayor
and Magistrates of Derby, against the Alehouse Licensing Bill.
Mr. MUNDY supported the Petition.
Mr. MABEItLY presented a similar Petition from Abingdon.
—laid on the table.
Lord F. OSBOKNE presented a Petition from the County of
Cambridge, praying for a protecting duty on Forrign Wool.
Mr. MACQUEEN presented a similar Petition from Hunting-
dos.—Lad on the table.

RUSSIA.-• 7 URIC ET.
Sir•ROBERT WILSON rose, pursuant to notice, to
put some question) to his Majesty's Ministers. rela ive
to the pressat stun of our foteign policyr He had on

many occasions felt it his duty to do so, hut in follow-
ing that course he had never intended, nor did he inow
intend to embarrass the Government ; he had no views
Of that sort. While, however, he believed that there
was no intention, on the part of -his Majesty's Govern-
ment, to disappoint the country, by any alteration in its
foreign and domestic policy, still he thought it his duty,
under existing circumstances, and as the honour of the
country might be concerned, to put a few questions to
the Government. On a former occasion he had not
pressed his queries; but since that period occurrences
had taken place, which had been confirmed by acts
which demanded the most serious toention. On the
former occasion to which the Gallant Officer alluded,
the Turks had just put forth their extraordinary mani•
festo, in which they admitted the duplicity of their
conduct ; but at that time it was not officially known
in this country, and the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
Peel) had said that no change had taken place in the
diplomatic relations of Russia and Turkey of which
his Majesty's Government had actual cognizance.—
Since that time, however, a declaration of war had
beer. published by Russia—the Rubicon had been
passed, and the Russian troops were now probably
preparing to pass the Danube. He did not, how-
ever, apprehend any immediate danger born this
invasion, as the country was a most difficult one
for an invading army. The Gallant Officer visited,
nevertheless, to know how our relations with Ittosia
stood in reference to the Treaty of the 6th of July ?
France, another of our Allies to that Treaty, was then
borrowing 3,000,0001. of money, and calling out con-
scripts to the number of 90,000 men. Her avowed
object in this preparation was to take up a military
position, rendered necessary by the circumstances of the
times. The French Minister of Finance had said in his
speech the other day, and speeches in France were not
delivered as they were here—they were first written,
and duly weighed before delivered—that Minister had
said, that France had armed fir the purpose of being
enabled to ask her Allies how the Treaty of the 6th of
July was to be carried into execution? France, he pro-
ceeded to say, could not behold with indifference the
sufferings of the Greeks, and that measure should im•
mediately be taken to suppress so much misery as they
were suffering. This was the language of complaint—
it was language which seemed to imply that England
was shrinking from her engagement, and as if she svas
a party to the infliction of this misery on the Greeks.
If this were the fact, he (Sir R. Wilson) should learn i,
with deep regret. It would, indeed, be bad policy to
suffer France to interfere in this cause alone. Such a
permission would have the effect of throwing France
into the arms of Russia, and be the ultimate cause of
the destruction of the balance of power as established
by the Treaty of Vienna. The security and honour of
England would also be endangered by such a permis-
sion. The Gallant Officer begged he might not be mis-
understood as wishing to urge a crusade of England, as
he believed that England, wished the Treaty should
be carried into effect without a blow being struck ; but
how was this to be managed ? He thought we should act
with France, and give a joint force of 4 or 5,0(X) men
to the Greek Government, with which the Turks might
be driven out of the Morea ; and the Anarchists, who
were almost as bad, might be put down. It was our
policy to act thus, and he would add, ve were bound
by honour and national policy to rescue Greece. if
there was any disunion between the two great Powers
at the head of civilwation, when union was more than
ever necessary, he should exceedingly regret it, the more
particularly as France, by her recent career, was bid-
ding fair to become one of the truly greatest nations on
the earth. The Honourable and Gallant Member then
referred to the battle which had taken place at Navarin,
and said, that if the ports of the Mores could have been
blockaded after that action, the Turks would have been
compelled to surrender. As it was, however, they had
been left open, and by the non-performance of this ser-
vice thousands of Greek had been carried into disgrace-
ful servitude. He concluded by asking, in the spirit of
information, and in no other light, the following ques-
tions of his Majesty's Ministers—

Ist. Whether the British Government still adhered to the Treaty
of the 6th of July?
6d- Whether we ever combined with France co attain the ob-
ject of that Treaty?
3d. Whether any communication bad been received from the
Admirals commanding, stating there had not been an enforcement
of the blockade?

Mr. PEEL said, if he abstained from any comments
on the variety of observations. with which the Honour-
able Gentleman had prefaced his particular questions,
he trusted that no inference of any kind would be drawn
rrom his silence. He trusted it would be sufficient for
him to allude to the inconvenience which must arise
from the partial discussion of such important matters in
the absence of that full information which alone could
enable the House to decide upon the conduct of the
Government. If he did not enter into any detailed
answer to the different questions, he trusted they would
not interpret his conduct into any unwillingness on his
part to defend every step which had been taken by his
Majesty's Government in those transactions, but that
they would consider prudence alone as the motive which
dictated caution up-in all the topics, and absolute silence
upon some. Any discussion of that kind previously to
'the time when the whole question came properly before
the House was to be avoided; and the conduct of the
Hon. Gentleman himself on the former occasion would
justify that inference. He had told the Hon. Gentleman
on that occasion, that he had received no official infor-
mation from Which he had a right to presume that the
rehstions beta een Russia and Turkey had been changed.
With respect to the particular questions now put, alt the
Answer he could give consistently with his duty was this,
that from the moment the Treaty of the 6th of July
was signed, ' there had been on chi part of the advisers
of the Crown, a sincere desire punctually and scrupu-
lously to fulfil their engagements. He thought he
might also say, that it was the opinion of the Gorern-
ment, considering the length of the struggle between
Greece and Turkey, that the interests of humanity, as
well as of England and' Europe, required that an end
should be put to the interminable contest as soon
as possible, and a permanent arrangement effected
as to the relations in which Turkey and Greece should
hereafter stand toward; each other. England was pre-
pared to fulfil all her engagements, and in common
with her allies to concert the means of carrying the
treaty into execution. It was now notorious to the
world, that events had materially changed the relations
in which one of the parties stood towards Turkey.. It
was notorious that war had been declared by Russia
upon grounds appertaining to her own condition! That
declaration had not changed the disposition of the
three parties respectively towards Greece—it had not.
released the parties from their engagements; but by
altering the character of one of the Powers into that
of a belligerent towards Turkey, it involved important
considerations as to the means by which the treaty
was to be carried into effect. Into those consi-
derations he for the present should not enter.—
When the period arrived, he should be prepared to
show that the conduct pursued by his Majesty's
Ministers was in all respects reconcilable with the

maintenance of good faith, and (Le fulfilment of our'
engagement with respect to Turkey and Greece, As
to the second question, it was.their wish to avoid, as
far as possible, the principle of interfering with the in-
ternal come' ns of Other countrie.., and to limit their ope-
rations to the precise objects of the Treaty. With re-
spect to the question about blockading the ports of the
More a, he should only say, that instructions had been
immediately issued by .the Government, directing that
arrangements should be made for carrying the blockade
into effect, and that explanations were required, and in-
formation received, upon th it subject, the result of
which he must he excused fr,,m entering into at pre-
sent. He should now only repeat his hk.pe, that if he
had not given a full answer to all the questions, the
House would attribute his silence to a sense of public
duty, and not to any wish to avoid explanation when
the runner time for making it was arrived.
51r. PEEL gave notice, that on Thursdaji next he would move
for leave to bring in a Bill for the better recovery of small debts.

COMMITTER OF SUPPLY.—NAVY ISTIMATU.
On the motion of the CHANCCI.LOII of the ExcuxQusts, the House
reso.ved itself into a Committee of Supply.
S r GEORGE CLERK moved, that the sum of
20 2131. ar. Sid. be granted to his Majesty, to com-
plete the sum necessary to defray the expense of the
Ito% al Naval College for the present year.
Mr. HUME objected to the grant, especially to that
pat t of it which well; to supply the boys with a classical
education. The sum of 1,2004 was devoted to that
object, and he contended that in the present state of the
country, it Gentlemen wished to Faye their sons edu-
cated, they, and not the country, ought to defray the
charges. He thought, therefore, that that item at least
ought to be struck out of the Estimates.
Sir .1. YORKE did not object to the vote. He wished
to know horn the Comptroller of the Navy what was to
be done with the Naval School of Architecture ? When
it was first establ,st.ed it had 24 scholars, but the num-
ber was now reduced to seven. At first it was intended
that all persons educated there should held stations as
master builders, lice. in the dock yards ; but he under-
stood that that plan had not been fulfilled.
Sir G. COCKBURN said, in reply to the Hon. Mem-
ber for Aberdeen, that the Lord High Admiral, seeing
the great expense of the N oral College, had thought it
right in future to charge persons who were not con-
nected with the Navy, at such a rate as would insure
the public from ally charge on their account. His Royal
Highness haJ also decioed, for the first time, that thel
suns of officers in the army and navy should pay fOrty
pounds a year. It appeared that the sons of officers
paid that sum at Sandhurst. For the future, the sons
of private Gentlemen would have to pay one hunched
and twenty pounds a year. With respect to the Naval
School of Architecture, it was perfectly true that it had
twenty-four scholars when it was first established, but
it having been found that situations could not be found
for so great a number, orders had been given that no
mote should be admitted. Those persons, however,
sshn had been educated there, were provided for, as well
as might be, in the dockyards.
Mr. W. WHITMORE said, that all persons educated
in the Royal I'laval College ought to pay all the ex-
penses incurred on their account.
Mr. MA BERLY opposed the vote.
Sir G. CLERK said that thilvtole expense of the
Establishment, with immediate reference to scholars,
was 7,0001. Thirty of the scholars were sons of
Gentlemen who did not belong to the Army or Navy,
and therefore if they paid 1001. a year each, they put
the public to no charge. With respect to the other I
forty scholars, they were the sons of old officers in the
Army and Navy, and it was-not thought too much to
allow a few of the children of those who had spent the
greater part of their lives in the service of their country,
to be educated at a charge of 401. a year for each boy.
Sir G.CLERK moved that the sum of 52,9071.125.2 d.
be granted to his Majesty to complete the sum neces.
nary to defray the expenses of officers, shipkeepers, and
men, for taking care of the vessels in ordinary.
Mr. HUME objected to the number of yachts. He
thought one would be sufficient. In 1826, the Malta
yacht had cost 11,0001.
Sir G. COCKBURN said, that he did not see how
the number could be reduced with propriety.
Sir J. YORKE said, as the steamers were in full use,
he did not see why the old yachts should be kept in
employ. There was a time when the King went to sea
in state; then a number might be requisite. At that
time also the Vice and Rear Admirals were State Offi-
cers, but now they have no such thing. He thought
that the yachts might be reduced with advantage.
After a few words from Mr. S. BOURN;
Sir G. OWEN said, that -having commanded one of
the Royal yachts, he might state to the House, that she
was not a mere vessel of show. He had-gone through
as rough weather in her as he had ever done in any ves-
sel, and she was highly efficient for the purposes Err
which she was commissioned. —The motion was then
agreed to.
The sum of 25,719/. 4s. was then voted to his Majesty to com-
plete the expenses of Victualling the Ships and Vessels in Ordinary,
and also the Hulks and small Vessels.

On the motion being pet, that the sum of 17,2251. be granted to
his Majesty for completing the extension of packets for the year 18'28,
Mr. HUME said, he could never allow that vote to
pass without objecting to it. He condemned the altera-
tion which had been made. Had the duties not been
transferred from the Post Office, they would still have
been discharged for 1,7001. or 1,8001. a year. In time
of war, there might have been some reason for the al-
teration, but in time of peace thereAvas none.
Sir G. CLERK said, that the increased celerity with
which the duties were discharged, was in itself a great
advantage to the public, for besides that consideration,
he was perfectly certain that had the contract continued
with the Post-office it must have been considerably in-
creased, for it was the intention of the Post-office to
hire larger vessels than it had previously done. He
might also remark, that the present system had put a
stop to smuggling, which, under the old one, had peen
carried on to a considerable extent. The Revenue was
therefore considerably increased.
Sir J. YORKE supported the grant. The ir.subor•
dination which existed under the old system' in itself
rendered the transfer necessary.
The vote was agreed to.

Sir G. CLERK said, that before proposing the next
item, he would state to the House that it was not in-
tended to build any more ships abroad after the present
year. It had been necessary to build two sloops in
Bermuda for prevention of piracy. He then moved
that the sum of 18,2671. be granted to his Majesty to
complete the sum necessary to defray the expenses of
building ships at Bombay and Bermuda.
Mr. STUART hoped that it was not the intention
of Government to do away with the establishment
at Bombay.

S►r B MARTIN said that a line of battle ship cost
18,0001. more in building inßumbay than in this country.
Mr.,STUART said that a Bombay ship lasted three
times as lung as an English ship, and required little
repair.
Sir B. MARTIN said, that the Minden,. a teak ship,
built at Bombay, cost 42.0001. in. repairs.
Sir C. COLE said, that be. had commanded a teak