Star.
London, England, 1820-11-04 00:00:00

THE QUEEN.

It would be a vain labour to attempt giving any
abridged view of the speeches delivered for and
against the Bill of Pains and Penalties now before the
House of Lords. They possess a degree of interest

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which compels all to read them who feel any. in-
terest whatever, we will not say in the cause of truth,
justice, and innocence only, as assailed in the person

of the QUEEN, but in the stability of our national in-
stitutions and the welfare of unborn generations. In

fact, no human sagacity can foresee the effects of
any—the smallest departure—from the known and
acknowledged principles of a Constitution reared up
by the wisdom of ages, and cemented by the best
blood of byepast generations. But such a departure
is manifested on every occasion on which recourse is
had to Bills of Pains and Penalties. Lawyers and
Statesmen may talk as they will, but they never
can convince the reason of Englishmen, of even the
bare possibility of any individual obtaining justice in
any Court in which the accusers are themselves to
act the part of Jurymen, and then give sentence as
Judges. We mean not to say that, however impro-
bable it may be, the accused before a Court so com-
posed can, by no possibility, obtain a sentence of
acquittal ; for we are not without hopes that such
will be the result on the present occasion,_ notwith-
standing the machinations of the Queen'a. enemies;
but we say, that, even with such-an issue, the whole
Trial will be not the less an act of injustice; for,
among the very Judges, who ought, by law, to be of
Counsel for the accused, are those who act, through-1
out the Trial, a part more becoming Counsel regu-
larly retained to make the worse appear the better
argument.
We would make no complaint were the diatribes
to which we allude uttered before a Special Jury,
bound to return a verdict according to the evidence;
for we affirm, without any fear of contradiction, that'
before such a Jury such speeches would- most effec-
tually serve the cause of the accused. They are so
consummately partial, and directly opposed to the
evidence before the Court, that instead of entrapping
the Jury, and cozening them into- a falseverdict,
they would alarm them, put them on their guard,
and lead them to interpose their Constitutional shield'
between the innocence of the accused and the sen-
,tence of the Judge—putting their fat on his sentence
by the simple but powerful award of—Not Guilty !
But, notwithstanding the anomaly—not to say ab-
solute injustice—of accusers being allowed to plead,
and give sentence against their victim ; notwithstand-
ing the assumption of power to give a verdict by a
majority of voices, instead of one voice—it is pos-
sible (aye, it-is possible!) that there may yet be found
such a plantain of virtue in the aggregate body of
our Nobility as will ensure a majority in favour of '
truth, justice, and innocence--4n favour of the much-
injured, oppressed,and persecuted Queen of ENGLAND.
Let the Public read the speeches of those who have
spoken in her MaaesTsis defence—and let the same
Public contrast them with those o the Queen's ene-
mies. We are confident that, great, powerful, and
convincing as have been the arguments of the for-
mer, they fall short of that conviction of the abso-
lute innocence of the QUEEN which results from those
employed by her adversaries.
As, however, we cannot enlarge without encroach-
ing on that room which oar Readers, we are sure,
wouliii rather see occupied with a detail of what
passes in the House of Peers, we shall abstain from
any further remarks, but only observe, that if their
Lordships imagine that, after a Conspiracy against
her NIAJESTY has been denounced before them, the
Public can:be satisfied with their proceeding to decide
upon this 13;34 without first enquiring into that Con-
spiracy, they are dreadfully mistaken, and acting
under a delusion not less lamentable than that which
permitted them to IN made a party in the present
rosectiOcn..

HOUSE OF LORDS, NOVEMBER 4.

Her MAIIISTT the QUUN arrived at the douse
Lords this day, a few minutes before one o'clock:
she was re:eived by the Military in Palace Yard

with a Royal Salute.

PROCEEDINGS OP TKO DAY.
TRIAL OP MSS MAJZsTY.
The Lass Coavontass took his met oothe Woesick a f sr
minuses Issbre tea o'eloet . Prayers were reed isy the Bit:: us
of liampoo., sad the list was then call-si over. Several Pre..
were absent, rnong whom was.the Marquis at iiisTropm, Mg!. •
was stated to be so ill as to be usable to tutted.
Lard IiOLLAND hoped their Lordships would not st-p 7..
rate ti do Aty witkost again to a vote, Wass the debate JE-I,
likely to extend much bejoad weal hour of adjournment.
The Sari of LA U DER DALE "KAM tbe Boum te warm's*
the promise which they Itqd hitherto adopted. It would be
aerate to their Lordshipsif, in an investigation of this sole
?ad Insponant nature, an opportunity was not afforded to ever;
Peer is that Bosse to express his opinions. Personal eon re-

sdeace must. Ina case of this solemn nature, give way ; nor
InVt l!edily fatigue be pleaded as an excuse for oat entering ink►
the rullest discussion of the subject.

Lord HOLLAND explained.
Lord' ERSKINE said, be shou2 be g'ad of an early qv.
portetnity of addressing their Lordships, but he would not do.

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lain them more than half an hour.

Lord LIVERPOOL then rose, and said • •4 My Lords, 1•
will now farther proceed to offer to your notice those consider,-
ations which have induced me to come to a conclusion in this
case. In the view which I took yesterday, two circunumnoes

appear to me to have been clearly established. I said It was
established beyond all doubt, if conclusions could be drawn
from circumstantial evidence, that the, criminal intention of
the Princess of Wales had been clearly manifested while Be!•
gami was a courier. Whether the criminal act bad then beta
completed or no, I will not say; but, from the evidence of
De Mont and Majocchi, it would appear that it had : but this

is a point on which I will not dwell I went further, and stated
as the second fact that was established, that up to the period of
the Princess's arrival at Augusta, in Apsil 1816, there was such
a mass, of evidence as amounted to a moral conviction in my
mind of the guilt of the parties. Convictions, capital convic-
tions have taken place in the Courts of Justice in this country
on less evidence than has been adduced to prove that the cri.
urinal intercourse had taken place before the arrival at Au.
gusts. Before I come v., what will be the first point of my
observations this day (the affair at Catania), I shall sate
the liberty of saying a few words on what passed on board
the Clorinde, the fact of Captain Peck& refusing to dine
at the same table with Bergami, and the impression ft made on
the Princess. If her Royal Highness felt no consciousness or
guilt, nor of the degrading connexion she had (mined, would she
not have remonstrated to the Government at home, and have
stated that Captain PecheU refused to receive at his table a per.
son who was then her chamberlain, and that under circum-
stances where there was no suspicion? There was another eclat
in which this might be viewed. Captain Pechell'y conduct was
certainly a hint to her Royal Highness, and if all bad been pure
and innocent in her Tunillarity with i3ergansi, it must have co.
tarred to her Wad, that respectable pentoos had some suspicions
on the subject—suspicions which ought to have made her so con-
duct herself unearth Bergami in 'inure asto be Above all svpictor.
lie would now come to the cam at Catania ; ft bad been said that
it rested on the evidence of De Mont ; but if their Lordship's
looked at her Royal Higluseses suite at this time, they would
find that there were only three persons wise could possibly be
acquainted with such a circumstance, Countess Oldi, the Meet,,
and her sister iron; two of these eight have been produced
for the Queen; and the fact of their tat having been produced,
was a strong proof of the truth of De Mont's evidence. De Mont.
proves the adultery al Naples, at Genoa, and at Oen. Pitta's
but, admitting that her character is so damaged that her evidence
is not to be received to the fullest extent, yet in the case of Catania
it is indisputable. De Mont is corroborated by Lieut. Flown=
in every material point ; bat thetas* at Catania is se natural
and so probable, end could have been so will contradicted, if
not true, that corroboration is unnecessary, Vet:games bed-
room was first in a building across the court yard; but, on
being ill, his bed was brought in o the house, to. a room near
the Princess, and which bad been occupied by the Countess
Olds. In the night De Mont heard the child crying -its the
Princess's room, and the Countess of Oidi endeavouring to
quiet it. In the morning she saw her Royal Highaess come
from Bergand's room with pillows under her arm. De Mont
says she does nut recollect whether her sister Been was there
oe not, but the Countess of Oldi was there; ;he was to have
been called—she is in town, and might have been called' to
contradict it, bad not the fact of adultery been dear and in-
disputable. He would now come to what many of their Lord-
ships had considered the most material part of the eau--the
circumstances that took place on board the pokcca i it was see-
tainly a material part, for there was no doubt nor contradiction.
He would take the facts just as they were. Beeganii's bed was
first brought Into the dining-room. It was singular that where,
ever any accommodation was made, it was always foe ifc rgarni,
One would have thought that the Princess would have clown
a Naval Officer to be near her; he could certainly have given
her the best information as to the state of the weather, and such
things as she' was said to be anxious to know ; but it was fourd.
in terry case, that It was Bergami, and Bergami ooiy, who was
selected to be near her. It had been dearly proved, that at Atirrt
and other places, the Princess slept alone in the inner tent with
Bergami ; and that, on board the polacca, she slept under the
awning with Bergami during the whole voyage, ad this with-
out the slightest necessity, or pretence of necessity. 'ref
thirty nights bad her Royal Highness and Bergami slept under
the same tent, without any excuse whatever to justify It. It had
said there was too mystery in it ; but, if he was to judge
from what had passed pt the bar of theft Lordships' Rouse,
there was much mystery: The Learned Counsel foe the Qvcot
(Mr. Brougham) in opening the defence of her Majesty, which
he did with so much ability, never even noticed the te:;t,
although, from the restions that had been ?ot by your Lord-
ships in the examination of the witnesses, be most bate been
aware that very great importance hod been attached to it.
It had been half mentioned by Mr. Williams, who reasoned epoi
it as if it were true. • Upon the summing up by Mr. Denman,
it was at first thought that be admitted the fact, but neat day,
in the continuation of the speech, that Learned Counsel appeared
to him to throw doubts upon it. Let their Lordships consider,
for a moment, the evidence of Flynn, who had stated that he
had made all the arrangements in the cabins for the accommot
dation of the suite, and when pushed in his cross-examination,
declared that he knew not where Bergami slept, although he
knew where every other person connected with her Royal High-
ness was accommodated. By his account the ship was at one
time so small, and at another so large, no correct information
could be obtained—(Hear, Asur).—Was it pOssible that a person
so long in the ship as Flynn had been could not be able so
say where a person who was so closely connected with her
Boyel Highness slept, and was be to be believed, when be

eid, at last, that Bergami did not sleep under the tent? (Ilear,
,tr.) The Noble Lord said, he was ready to make all allow.
:Aces for the situation of 31r. Ilownam, and the state of obli-
eition in which he lay to her Royal Highness : the admission
:eout Bergami and the tent came from that witness re-
I ecenttly, and he must have had a stronger knowledge of
west had taken place than he had expressed. So much
Ter the mystery. Now, he would ask, whether there
eeisted any danger or necessity for placing Bergami under the
e.nt with her Royal Highness? not the most remote. Ile would
,e k, what woman, who wished to maintain the slightest appear-
a:,ze of virtue, could have permitted her male servant to lodge
ei near to her, to the exclusion of all others? The ship had
vein in the power of her Royal Highness, and she could have
:tilde what arrangements she pleased. If she had the least idea
of nuxlesty, what could have prevented her from having near
!ear one of her waiting women, or Flynn, or Hownam; in a
.uspended cot, if there existed a necessity for the attendance of
a male? Why bad nut an arrangement taken place between
Ilyna and llownam to that effect? It seemed that they had
&pi fat tomb time on deck ; why, then, had not their cots been
rut into the tent of her Royal Ilighmas, if there could be no
impropriety in so closely associating ? Either of those Gentle-
men could, in case of a heavy sea, or any other alarming circum.
?lance, have protected her as effectually as Bergami. What use
could Berger be, which De Bloat or Marlette might not be?
Why, perhaps, as had been already said, the sire of Bergami was
better suited to the task of protection!--(el laugh.)—There was
not the slightest shadow of necessity that Berganii should sleep
in her Royal Highness's tent, either at sea or on land. lie
would call spoil their Lordships to say, whether they be-
beret!, that while the sea was calm, and the weather fine, and
eie awning of the tent fastened down, there could, in the wide
world, be a place where the crime of adultery could be more
rteectually perpetrated ? He would put it to any man, to say
whether it was possible that a man and woman could have
eassed thirty nights together in a tent, so constructed, and under
such favourable circumstances, without the certainty that they
had been criminally intimate there, or had been satiated with
Aijoyment ! At Aum, where could have been the necessity for
I;erglMi to sleep in the same tent ? There were at that place
no'dangers to be enceuntered ; and why had not Bergami been
put In the outer tent, and one of her Royal Highness's women
tent ordered to attend her within? He (Lord-Liverpool) would
Tr al to any man who had passed his life in camps, whether
crimes of this sort could not as effectually be connuitted in
tents as in rooms?—(Loud cries of Hear, hear?) It had
beta said that her Royal Highness arrived at the tent ex.
eausted. Now a period of exhaustion and fatigue was that in
which a delicate woman would be most disposed to retire from
the view ei eil .neu—(l-kor, hear). All this amounted to a corn-
Otte, tra,14.:43, Judicial proof of guilt, and not to a mere moral
certainty The very doctrine that her Royal Highness and
eiereatui went on board without suspicion, was a proof. This
lees the dice: of an infatuated passion, and he would ask their
rdships whether, before the polacca had received her Royal
leghness, there was not the strongest testimony that she was
&e•zcnientl,l in love with Berganti?—(el lough, and cries f hear).
11 an inference of adultery were not drawn from what had sub-

sequeutly occurred, the Statute Book cousisted of a code of
laws of the greetestcruelty and injustice. The Noble Lord then
called the attentiuu of the House to the festival on St. Bartho-
lainew's day, when Bergami and her Royal Highness walked
arnein-arni, and were hailed by those on board with cries of
" Long live the Cavalier ! Long live the Princess !" Was it
possible that the wife of the Itegeut of England could degride
herself by this familiarity with her servant ? If this was
net an unparalleled degradation in conduct and man-
tles, it was impossible to be degraded—(Yeer, Ise r).—He
could not help saying a few words with respect to Carlsruhe.
lle was thoroughly convinced, on the fair balance of evidence,
that the case, at this place, was proved. A more open. fair,
and ingenuous testimony, he had never heard, than that of Bar-
bara Kress. She told the circumstance to which she had
depoed to immediately after it had happened. When exa-
mined as to the whole history of her life, she gave it in the
most natural manner; and, though the most active inquiries
h_d been made, on the part of the defence, at Carlsruhe,
any attempt had been made to impeaeh her character.—
See told a natural story, and she swore to a positive fact. What
was the sort of counter-evidence by which it had been at-
tempted to be met? Ily an attempt to account for every hour
of the Princess's stay at Carlsruhe. But how had that attempt
failed? Vassali had sworn that on the second night of her Ma-
jesty's residence there Bergami was ill and went hums, leaving
thus a complete Opening as to eine, to the fact sworn to by Kress ;
for, notwithstanding the singuler exactness of Vassali's memory,
it was impossible that her Majesty could be a whole evening in
company, without having occasion to retire to her room. Were
be sitting as a Juryman, he could have no doubt as to this part
of the case being fully proved. lie did not see how the evi-
dence of Baron d'Ende could have affected this particular
point : he admitted, at the same time, that the absence of the
Baron was a circumstance most unfortunate, and deeply to be
regretted. His Lordship next requested the attention of their
Lordships to the case at Charnitz. If the Princess always te-
e e.t.a the protection of a man, why bad Marine. De Mont been
eeteil to sleep in her M.tjesty's room while Bergami was gone
v. i h Vassali to Inspruck ? And why was De Mont turned
a !eft the moment.that Bergami returned ? Did die circumstance
pit chew that it was Bergami that was necessary, and not a
avernan ? Vassali had negatived the allegation of any of the party
' taken repose during that night. But could this be believed?
:hey had bean travelling all the preceding day—they must have
t; 'nn greatly fatigued—and what else had they to do but repose?
tes Lordship begged now to direct the attention of their Lord-
seies to a new body of evidence of great importance—namely,
ti, :he testimony of those who had proved the various indecen-
•:S at the Barone, at the Villa d'Este, &c. He would take no
.::count of those circumstances which depended on the evi-
ee.ce of Sacchi ; for, though he did not look upon the testi-
neiy of Carlo Forte, who contradicted Secchi, as supported
by other witnesses for the defence, yet the contradiction es-
taeted such doubt, such discredit, to Sacchi's testimony, that he
as as perfectly willing to throw it out of the case altogether.
But let their Lordships attend to the various other witnesses
who spoke to acts of indecency. Two there were whom
had been attempted to impeach; but there were
seven against whose credibility not one word had been
said, and who all deposed most distinctly to acts of indecency
which were disgraceful to her Royal Highness's rank as Ptin-
zess of Wales, and wife of the Regent of England. Wit-
nesses so unimpeached to be put wholly out of the question?
Were they to be passed over as good for nothing? He did not
say that this body of evidence was such as to justify the conclu-
sion called for by the Bill ; all that he maintained was, that they
31..1 sworn to facts which previous circumstances rendered abuti-
dandy probable, and which went a great way in support of the
cameral sonciusion. His Lordship took a brief review of the
tees of indecency to which he here referred, then touched on the
sclusion of Bagauti's wife as the only one of all his relatives not
admitted to the presence of the Queen, and summed up by a rapid
recapitulation of the circumstances of Bergami's elevation to
wealth, titles, and honours. Could their Lordships doubt
e:entinued the Noble Lord) the conclusion to be come to ?
Was there any other Lumen way of accounting for such things,
than that a violent passion had been entertained by the Princess
for Bergami, for the gratification of which she had treated
every possible opportunity? Ile (Lord Liverpool) conceived,
that both in lew and fact, there could be no other infer-
ence than that the crime of adultery lied been committed.—
Leer sreating.

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FLANDERS MAIL.

At a late hoUr last night, a Mail arrived from
Flanders, with Brussels Papers to the Ist inst. The
following is the only article in them possessing no-
velty or interest:

BRUSSELS, OCTOBER 27.4 if i" v. •

The following is a summary of the news from Ba-
tavia up to the 9th of June :—Admiral Wallerbeck
arrived at that place on the sth of May. The re-
ports which announced the preparation for the expe-
dition against the Sultan of Palembang, under the
command of Lieutenant-Colonel Keer, has been con-
firmed by later accounts. This Officer, in concert
with Lieutenant-Colonel Riefz, has obtained some
advantage over the people of Palembang, the result
sJf which has been the capture of a large quantity of
ammunition and provisions, nine pieces of cannon of
various sizes, and a considerable quantity of arms.
Our troops have triumphed everywhere over the vi-
gorous resistance- of the enemy. The losses which
they have experienced are very slight in comparison
of those of the rebels. We have had twenty-two
men killed or wounded.

The latest news received from Padang state, that
our establishments in that part of India continue to
prosper. We still keep up the same amicable rela-
tions with the Chiefs of the tribes of the interior.

The crop of coffee, and other productions, are un-
commonly abundant at Padang.
A Decree of the King of the 3d of November,
1819, confirms the nomination, ad interim, of Major-1
General De Kock to the post of Commander-in-Chief
of all the troops of the Netherlands in India.