Star.
London, England, 1828-06-11 00:00:00

BANKRUPTS.

Jasper lreysey, Easter, linendraper and hosier, to surrender. June
13, at twelve, 24, at two, and July 22, at one, at the Court of
Commissioners of Bankrupts. Basinghall-street. Attorney, Mr.
R. Carpenter Smith, Wa'brook.
Thomas Trailer, Northampton, boot and shoe-manufacturer, Juno
24, July 8, and 22, at ten, at the Court of Gummisaioners of
Bankrupts, Basingball-street. Attornies, blesses. Carter and Co.
Lord Mayor's Court Mice.
Janus Douglas, late of St. Paul's Church-yard, silk-manufacturer,
June 17, 20, and July 2!, at eleven, at the Court of Commis-
sioners of Bankrupts, Basinghall-street. Attorney, Mr. Pardee,
Great James-street, Bedford-row.
William Preston Lauder, Sloane-street, surgeon and apotheiary,
June 20, at eleven, 27, and July 22, at ten, at the Court of Com-
missioners of Bankrupts, Baainghall-street. Attorney, Mr.
George Palmer, Gray's Inn-square.
Warburton Bower, of the Island of Jersey. cotton-spinner, July 2,
3, and 22, at two, at White's Hotel, Manchester. Attornies,
Messrs. Hadfitld and Co. Manchester; or Messrs. Hurd and
Co. Temple.
James Hibbert Swindells, Stockport, Cheshire, bookseller and
printer, June 30, July 1, at three, and 22, at twq, at- the Red
Lion lon, Heaton-Nurris, ,Lancashire. Attornies, Mr. Tyler,
Pump-court, Temple; or Vents. Lingard and Co. Heaton
Norris.
William Grey, Newcastle upon Tyne, ship and insurance-broker,
July 1,3, at eleven, and 22, at one, at the George Inn, New-
castle upon Tyne. Attornies, Mr. J. A. Pybus, Newcastle upon
Tyne; or Messrs. Swain and Co. Frederick's-place, Old Jewry.
William Turner, Denmark-street, Bristol. tailor, June 23, 24, and
July 22, at one, at the White Lion Inn, Bristol. Attornies,
Messrs. Bicknell and Co. Lincoln's Inn New-square; or Mr.
William Harmar, jim. Bristol.
Richard Underwood, Kidderminster, Worcestershire, victualler,
June 27, at five, 28, and July 22. at eleven, at the Swan Inn,
Stourport. Attornies, Mr. Thomas Halle°, Kidderminster; or
Mr. Edward Bigg, Southampton. buildings, Holborn.
James Gordon,Manchester, Lancashire, merchant, July 1,2, at ten,
and 22, atone, at White's Hotel, Manchester. Anomie. Messrs.
Law and Co. Manchester ; or Messrs. AdUngton and Co. Bed-
ford-row.
John Dickon Wyrill, Methley, Yorkshire, dealer and chapman.
June 18, at four, 17, and July 22, at eleven, at the Sessions
House, Wakefield. •Attornles, Messrs. Jaques and Co. Cole-
man-street; or Messrs. Archer and Co. °sack, near Wakefield.
Joseph Hyde. Uffington, Shropshire, miller, dune 30, July ls and
SS, at eleven at the Fox Inn, Shrewsbury. Attornies, Messrs.
Philpot and Co. Southampton-streets Bloomsbury; or Mr.
Thomas Harley Keogh, Shrewsbury.
DECLARATIONS 01? INSOLVENCY.
Robert Thomas Crucefix, Bouverie-street, Mot-street, printer,
is in insolvent circumstances, and Is unable to meet his engage-
ments with his erediture-Fikd June 6.
.Samuel Perry Willis, Weathersheid, Ease:, innbolder, Is in info!-
, vent eireosistances, and is Unable to meet hb engagement' with
hie creditors-Illsd Jona 10i •

ROMAN CATHOLIC QUESEION.
•The Order of the Day having been moved,
The Bishop of LLANDAFE begged to explain one
of the expressions of his speech of last night, upon
which he conceived he had been misunderstood. He
was represented to have said that the day was very dis-
tant when a vote in favour of the present claimants
might be passed. What he did say was, what he really
thought, that at no distant day such a ♦ote might be
expected. Since the Resolution had been before their
Lordships a sufficient time had not been allowed for
deliberation, but between this time and the next Session ,
of Parliament the question might be the subject of con-
sideration, with a view, if possible, to adjust the terms
of security for the Protestant Church, which must of
necessity accompany any further concession. During
the period he had mentioned; all that could be devised
in the way of security might be devised ; and if nothing
satisfactory could be devised, it would then be thought
the time to ebandon the question altogether.
Lord COLCHESTER was anxious to explain to their
Lordships his reasons for refusing to assent to the Re•
solution now before the House. The House had at
various periods been called upon to decide upon pro-
positions relating to this subject; some of them com-
prehending arrangements for the security of the Pro-
testant Church, and some of them without any such ar-
rangement; but never before had their Lot dships been
called upon to adopt a resoluti'm so vague, indefinite,
and unsatisfactory as that now under their consideration.
He had no confidence in the measure now proposed as
a means of eradicating the evils which existed in Ire-
land. It would be in his judgment a much mote rational
and effectual means of providing for the happiness and
prosperity of that country to preserve to its agricultural
industry the monopoly of the English market, and
thus by degrees to spread fertility over the whole
of its rich and varied surface. This, combined
with the judicious encouragement of public works,
would gradually bring Ireland to a level of pros-
perky with this country, and when that was ac-
complished, the discontent and the grievances of Ire-
-land, so far as they were connected with the question
now before their Lordships, would be heard of no more.
Much had been said of the system of foreign countries,
under which Protestants and Catholics were admitted

to an equal participation of political power. This ar
gument appeared to him to be plucked before it was
ripe. The cases upon which this argument was founded
had yet been subjected to the test of only a very limited
experience. In one case, to the cape ience of seven
years, in another to the experience of four years, and
in another, that of the Nrtherland9, to the experience
of -only a few months. This was not sufficient to lead
hh mind upon a question of so much importance to any
conclusion in favour of the motion. The advocates of

the Roman Catholics of the present day shrunk back
as one man from the question of securities. This was•
a circumstance well worthy of attention. He remem•
bered the time when the universal opinion in that House
was, to grant emancipation to the Catholics without
adequate securities to the Protestant Church, woad be
a direct infraction of the Coronation Oath. There was
nothing in the existing disqualifications in any degree
repugnant to the principles of toleration, which went.
no further than to require for all mankind the permis-
sion to worship the DEITY in their own way. The Eng-.
lish Roman Catholics, whose'claims were at least equal
'to those of the Irish, had never been persuaded till
lately to consider themaelves as suffering persecution.
Nor did it appear to him that the disqualifications which
the law imposed upon the Catholics, either of England
or of Ireland, were inconsistent with the principles of
toleration. For these reasons, be must dissent from the
Resolution. •
The Marquis of BUTE had paid all the attention in
his power to the speech of the Noble Lord, and had
listened to it without being convinced by his arguments.
The Noble Lord had said that he must object to putting
equal arms in the hands of the Catholics to those pos-
sessed by the Protestants: but, as it appeared to him,
the longer they delayed this great measure of concilia-
tion, the stronger arms there would be in the hands of
the Catholics. The Catholic religion, they were told,
was unchanged: it was the boast of its adherents that
it was lo; such also was the boast of the professors 'ol
,every other religion, and if applied in the same manner,
it would prejudice others as well as CatholiCs. The
Noble and Learned Lord who had addressed the House
in the former part of the debate had revived the expres-
sion and the argument of divided allegiance. He should
be glad to know what a divided allegiance was.. It had
been at one time imputed to a large proportion of the
Clergy of the Church of England. If they referred to
the page of history, they would not find that Protestants
had been mush more loyal than Roman Catholics. The
Noble Marquis did not contend, nor, so far as ht knew,
had it ever been contended by any one, that the conces-
sion of the Catholic claims would be alone sufficient to
restore and ensure the peace of Ireland. It was only
contended that without this nothing could be done et.
fectually. All other evils connected themselves with
this. This, as the Noble Marquis who so ably opened
the discussion had shown by *e evidence given before
their Lordships Committee, was the master grievance.
The interference with the freeholders at the last election
was exclusively the work of the Catholic Clergy. When
the demand was made of the elective franchise, it was
only asked for the freeholders of twenty pounds a year.
But the answer was, you shall have mete than you ask ;
the forty shilling 'freeholders shall also be admitted to
,votes This was billed liberality; but the motive to it,
be feared, was to give the great Protestant landlords a
PUTOaderating inihnniCS in the electioesk It* scheme

Lord had addressed the House, not even those Noble
and Right Reverend Peers'who were at the head of the
Church, but from his speech, in some part of it or other,
might be collected the opinion, that if not now, yet at
some future time the Catholics might he safely admit-
ted to the full privileges of the Constitution. Nothing,
as it appeared to him, could long resist the active in-
fluence of the spirit of the times. That the Church of
Rome had not changed was a fact much insisted on..
It had not changed formally and avowedly, but it had
changed in common with every other religion, in com-
mon with every thing connected with the social state of
man, by the progressive change of manners, and the
progressive spread of intelligence and civilisation. Dr.
Doyle and his opinions had also been much insisted on;
but it was fair' hat eveh Dr. Doyle should be permitted
to speak for himself, all l if they referred to the evidence
of that very learned and acute person, they would find
that he disclaimed all the anti. Christian and anti-social
doctrines which are charged upon the Church of Rome.
and that with a nationalspirit he refused to acknowledgie
the unlimited' authority of tha Pope over the Catholic
Church of Ireland. These opinions prevailed generally
in Ireland, and he thought that they proved that the
Catholics of that coontry had rather imbibed the spirit
•Of their Lordships that that of the Vatican. One Noble
Earl had objected-to the Resolution, that it gave a pledge
without pointing out the mode in which that pledge was
to be redeemed. But let the House but adopt the Rt-
solution of the Noble M al quis, and he had no fear that
means of redeeming the pledee would be found. it
might be redeemed by such a 13i11 as they lied once had
before them. It might be redeemed by a Bill verj
ferent from that they had formerly before them. It
might be redeemed by a jvnt Address to his Majesty,
praying him to negociat.• a Cot cot dal with the Pope.
In such a nerciati, n there would be no difficulty.—
They eight make offers to Leland with the Pope in
.their hand, and a Concordat so eo,icluded
,would be the
harbinger of peace and concord. At all events thirtgs
could not remain as they swere. It was impossible that
live millions of men could ever be satisfied to remain
'as the Catholics now'were. They ought not to be so
satisfied, and they would not be so satisfied. The Noble
Earl then proceeded at some length to discuss the ques-
tion-as far as the Coronation Oath was connected with
it. He respected the conscientious feelings of the last
Monarch, but must contend that the Regiunt Donunt
given to the Dissenters was as much a violation of the
Coronation Oath as die admission of the Catholics to
political power, or the giving a eoblic provision even to
the Catholic Church in Ireland could be. He feared he
had already trespassed too long upon their Lordships'
time, but there was one argum-nt adduced by a Right
Rev. Prelate last slight upon which he must offer a single
observation in reply. That Right Rev. Prelate founded
his argument upon the Language and conduct of Dr.
aiyle. Now he did not stand forward as the cham-
pion of Dr. Doyle. He believed he had done a great
of mischief. But this was not a question to he in-
fluenced, still less decided by reference to intividual con-
duct. It must be recollecCed that Dr. Doyle was not
the only angry priest the woad had ever seen, nor the
Church to which Dr. Doyle belonged, the only Church
which had produced such Priests. He did not in this
remark allude to any Churchman of the English
Church.. If, however, Dr. Doyle was mischievous, it
was an argument to induce them to remove the mins
to which he was indebted for whatever power he pos.
,e.sed. This was only to be done by admitting the
Roman Catholics to the full and equal participation of
civil privileges with their Protestant tellow-sullects.
There was but one other topic to which he would ad-
vert. He had listened with great pleasure to the
remark of a Noble Marquis, that if the appointment
of Roman Catholic Bishops were vested in the C own,
he should no longer resist this measure. Aoother Noble
Peer had declared, with the warmth natural to an Eng-
lishman, that he would riot be intimidated. But if that
Noble Lord would distinguish between physical and
political fear, he would no longer perceive any thing
disgraceful in the latter feeling, when the circumstances
of thelimes gave fair occasion for that feeling. The
Catholic Association was a body which .reasoreers of
this class affected to despise, yet their language ekri-
dently implied that the proceedings of that body had
an influence upon their minds and conduct. It would
be more consistent with their professions if they were to
disregard the conduct of this Association ,altogether.
The Noble Lord concluded by expressing his indent
wish, that in agreeing to the Resolution their Lordships
would take what he must consider• a most effectual step
to restore peace and concord to Ireland, and to ensure
the welfare and increase the strength of the whole em-
pire.
The Bishop of BATH and WELLS would trespass
upon their Lordships with sfvery few observations.. The
real merits of the case lay in a very smith compass. The
first 'question was, whether the Roman Cattiohes had
any natural right to the privileges they now demanded ?
and the second, whether their Lordships were called
upon, either in justice or expediency, tia concede them ?
Much had beetriaid of toleration. But toleration was
of two kinds—religious and political. Religious tolera-
tion related to the intercourse between human beings
and the Darr; and wile this as human authetity had