Star.
London, England, 1803-07-21 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

WM. SCOTT limed for and obtained leave to bring in a BM
to ',edify a Clerleal Error In the Clergy Retidenee BilL It was
haaniediately brought up, and read a brit and feeond dote, and or-
dered to be coattekted to-eaorrow.

The ATTOIMIT Genova moved for leave to bring in a Bill
to empower the Judges of the Courts of Record at Wefts:nailer to
lffue writs of Hake: Grp,' to bring up perfons ermined for debt
to give evidence before Courts Mardal or before Commiffionen to
be named in the Bill..—Leave was given to bring in the Bill; it
was immediately brought in, and read a firft time.
Tim Curates Bill was real a feeond time, and ordered to be
*alumina on Monday.
Bir We.. POLTINILT moved for leave to withdraw the Bill be
bad brought In relative to the =Him of a light Hoofe on the
Bell Rock in the Filth of Forth; and gave notice, that he ihouid
to-sorrow move for a Committee to take into eonfideration the
different Adts relative to the eredloo of Light Hodes.
The City of London Quits BW was read a third time and paired.
The Longitude Bill was read a third dm; and paffed.
The Bill for the relief of Captors of Prises was read • flrft rime,
and was ordered to be read a fecood time tom-marrow.

The Committees on the ltim Initices BW, and the frill Militia
Bill, and the Conunittees of Ways and Means and Sup-
ply, were pat off WI Friday.
The CoMmittee on the Volunteer Corps Bill was put olf till en-

MESSAGE ►SOM HIS MAJESTY.

The Coatteastott of the Excsignal prefented a
Mefrage from his Majefty, which was read from the
Chair, and was to the following purpofe

U G. R.

• MU May*, 'dying open the zealous rapport of his faithful
panonsoss. in the vigaroas pores:titian of the prdent war in which
we are engaged, reconsinewis it to the Nude to make prodflons
towards defraying all the taiteffsry ezpences attending it, and to
take fuels matures as the prefcat exigencies of the ftate :nay re.
iptire."
The CII4NCILLOR of the Excnmpet then moved,
that the kid Wage be referred to a Committee of
Supply, which was accordingly agreed to.
THR DRFRISCII OF THI COUNTRY.

The Secitaraar at WAR moved the further conli-
aeration of the Bill for the better Defence of the
Country. The Right Hoo. Gentleman 4,l3ferved,
that there were !enrol amendments neceffary to be
amide. He thought it would be better to have the
'Bill recommitted and made perfea, and then the di[
carton might take place on bringing up the report.
Mr. SHULMAN agreed with the Right Hon:Gen-
tleman as to the propriety of perfeeting the Bill as
fpeedily as poffibte, and then Gentlemen who enter-
tained nbjeaions to the framers of the Bill, for he
was convinced no one could to the general principle
of it, would have an opportunity on the third read-
jog to throw, out their ahjeEtions. He ferioufly re-
commended to Gentlemen to abaain fur the prefent
from all difcaGon.

Mr. ICIIIIIMILD immediately Tore. sod entered his
proteft againft the general principle of the Bill, which
he contended, was formed from a complication of I
machinery not in the lealt calculated for the purpofes
to which the Bill is intended. The Hon. Gentleman
argued at fome lerq;th in fupport of his propolition,
and was refening to the fituation of Hanover, when
the Secretary at-War called him to order. He then
proceeded. and recommended a recurrence to a vo.
lontary fervice, as the bell means of defence.
Mr. 811111tIDAII did not perfedly coincide with his
Hon. Friend. He noticed the defedion which had
occurred in marching volunteers to their places of
dellination. In the county of Surrey, out of 6o who
feet off for Guildford, not more than 53 reached that
town ; and in two regiments, compofed of 90e, not
more than 250 couldle matftered. 'This he thought
a pretty Ikons reafon why the meafure now reforted
to was the more efficacious; the fad was, that the
-people in general do not believe the danger exiffs.
fie hid letters from Harnpfhire to that effed. The
vulgar opinion and laying was, “ if my head never
aches till Bonaparte comes, I am lure it never will
ache." It was there opinions which made it necef
fary to raife a levy era erej. He thought there
ought to be but one mind and heart on the fubjed.
He wined the Bill to be made perfed, and again mull
deprecate all difctiffiun for the prefent, not that he
willed to deprive Gentlemen c,f the opportunity of
making fpeeehee. tiecaufc that could be dt.ne in the
Committee, ur whets the Bill was ordered for a third
trading.
Mr Purr agreed with the Hon. Gentleman in the
propriety of fufpending the dif:ufGou in this liege of
the Bill. He was of opinion confiderable .dteratroas
were nerciary, and thought the Bill. a: it now (lord,
was not fully competent to the acquirement of a
force fuel as was needier), fur the defence of the
realm, within the tarn requilite. The Hon. Gentle-
man's objedious to the inadequacy of the Bill were,
in his opinion. better adapted for the Consmittre: be
w 'abed to tctlate Ws former [mimosas, with terra

to VolunteerOsrpe, which he eesidertd as the moil
efficacious force of the two.
Mr. WI AD11•11 thought the Hon. Gentleman bad
created a greater caufc for defpondence than either
himfelf or friends ever had done. He did not know
how the Hon. Gentleman could reconcile it with
his own continence of charaser. He thought that
the dircullion ought to precede the Committee, but,
however, he fhould not objet to the going into a
Committee.
Mr. Sir se IDA ft obferved, that he had ventured to
exprefs an opinion that the people's ideas of danger
were not on a level with the exigence of the times.
He did not in the leak defsond; and as to eonfiftency,
he willed very much the matter of confiftency to be
brought to iffue between the Right Hon. Gentleman
and himfelf, as foon as he liked.—(A Gogh.)
After a few more words from Mr. Sheridan, the
Houfc refolved into the Committee.
The Secarratv at WAR acknowledged. that the
sill certainly flood in need of feveral amendments,
and thefe he intended now to fubmit to the Commit-

, tee. He begged Gentlemen would not only confider
• what was the molt expeditious mode to purfi.e, but
alfo what was really the molt practicable. An en-
rolment, according to the plan he had formerly pro-
, poled to the Houfe, appeared to him to be abfolutely
necetrary ; becanfe A more general enrolment would
not be praeicable. He thought the Lieutenants
, and Deputy Lieutenants, and the Officers under them,
were (till the moll proper perfons to be entrufted with
the charge of that enrolment. Gentlemen might talk
of delay as they pleafed, but a certain time muff be
allowed to the conflables for that purpofe, the more
efpecially as he thought that it was abfolutely necef-
fary to root out that fyftem of fraud in regard to per-
' tons fhunning the enrolment, which had been rather
too prevalent in many parts of the kingdom. That
enrolment muff be effeeted in a regular and proper
manner, without fraud or partiality. Every thing, lie
thought, depended upon the zeal and activity of peo-
ple of influence in the country, in carrying the pro-
poled enrolment into corree and fpeedy execution.
As to the plan of affembling the men fo to be enrolled,
he Ihould be extremely glad to hear a better method
pointed out by any Hon. Member. The claufe in
the Bill relative to that point, directs the Lords
Lieutenants to fix the places of affembly upon general
and determined fignals of alarm. He Ibould, in
addition, propofe, that his Majetly's Principal Secre-
taries of State (hould be empowered to concert be-
fore-hand the heft method to be followed for the put--
pole of afrembling the men, and the fignals of alarm
to be given in cafe of necelfity. He humid propofe,
that on thefe fignals of alarm being given by the
command and authority of the- Lords' Lieutenants
of counties, that only the firft clefs of young men
Ihould be obliged immediately to move out, and that
the other three clerks he formerly mentioned, thould
only be called out in cafes of (till more urgent ne-
ceffity, on their receiving regular orders, or hear-
ing proper fignals of alarm for that purpofe. As to
the claufe regarding Volunteers, he Ihould pro-
pole that not only thole' Volunteers who were
formed in particular diaries' and who had been
approved by his Majefty, Ihould be accepted of,
and enjoy certain privileges, but alfo that the
original lifts or returns to be given in &mild Spe-
cify thole perfons in each ditirie, who were willing
to engage in voluntary Services, and that fuch offers
fhoula tend to exempt each particular diltria from a
certain degree of the compulfory fervice. He thought
that it would be wrong to provide in this Bill that all
Volunteer Corps formed under proper rules, (bould
be obliged to march in the fame manner as this pro-
poled additional Corps; but he had found it proper
to prepare a (ketch of another Bill, for the pur-
pofe of regulating Volunteer Corps and Yeomanry,
&c. becanfe their (*orrice mull undoubtedly be made
to be commenftirate to the exigencies of the State.
He meant, however, that fuch meafures ffiould ex-
tend only to thole Volunteers railed in the manner
propofed by this Bill, f; that they fhould be obliged
to adhere fiddly to their engagements, and compel-
led to do what they had really offered. As to Vo-
lunteers in general, he was convinced that more dif-
ficulty would be experienced by Government in keep-
ing them back from crowding again& the enemy, than
any detriment likely to arife to the country from their
refraining. He fbnuld next take notice of the plan
propofed for training or esercifing. As to that par-
ticular. he confeffed that there was undoubtedly an
impropriety in the Bill, in regard to limiting the time
exercifing. He (hook: propofe either to leave out
the dance altogether, or carry it to a later period.—
He Ihould fuhmit. alfo, an amendment in regard to
the fituation of Scotland, as to exercifieg on Sun-
days, a circumftance which he conceived might per-
haps be objected to in that country,°and even u; tome
parts of England. He did not know wfiether the
people of either country could be reckoned seller or
more religions than their aneeflors, but the exercifing
of troops upon Sundays was a circumftance which
ufed to be praeifed in former ages. and never before
objeaed to. it having been reckoned a matter of real
and urgent neceflity. He thought. however, that that
matter might be left in the daretion of the Lords
Lieutenants, and that they Should be empowered to
fix the day of exercife, according to their confciences.
Another amendment might be made, relative to
exercifing the ad and 3d claffes ; but 14 entertained
confiuerable -doubts whether or not fuch a meafure
could be reckoned neceffary. From every informs.
tion he had received, he was led to conceive that the
number of men who could thus be railed by calling
out the Firft Clefs alone, would not amount to lets
than 400 moo. This formidable body of young men,
more or leis acquainted with the ule of arms, were
to Rep forward, and bring themfelves into altion in
the firft place; and filch a number he was pretty
confident, woold be found fufficient to repel our
daring invaders, while. in all events, the other three
claffcs were Rill prepared in cafe of greater emer-
gency. If Gentlemen attempted to Ihorten the time
allowed as being necetrary for enrolment, they would
be facnficing both the credit and juftice of the Go-
vernment, which were due by it to every individual
of the realm, and which were more material to be
attended to than any extraordinary de of expe-
dition which could thereby be prodn
LordCasrt.saaaottthought,thatinocdertobviate
the delays which, ender the forms laid dome in the
Bill, world conliderably retard the *deffned obinik
namely. the prompt array of a competent form fee
the defence of the country. a clout,• might be ',fin-
ed, empowering his Maielly to call out, by Mars-

demotion, the whole of the male population bet Ween
the ages of 17 and 55 in the fluff infiance, to attend
at given places in -their refpedive diftrids, for the
purpofe of being drilled, under certain penalties, in
cafe of non-compliance. In the mean time, the en-
rolment by the Conftables and other proper officers
might be going forward ; and the return fo made
would Corinth the proof againfl thofe who, from non-
attendance in the firs intiance, would fubjed them-
(elves to penalty. By both meafures thus going for-
ward together, delays would be avoided, and the
great object of the Bill confiderably accelerated ;
namely, the fixedly enrolment and difcipline of a
competent pot lion of the people, for the national de-
fence.
Mr. KINNAIRD faid, the proportion of the Noble
Lord much accorded with his own opinion, and
would go a great length towards obviating his objec-
tions, as it would tend very confiderably towards
eliciting the voluntary exertions of the country.
Lord CASTLEREAGH further explained his with, as
merely to poffefs the Crown, in the firß intiance, of
that power, which, as the Bill now flood, it would
have when the returns were made out; by which
means the butineCs of training and difcipline might
go forward forthwith, inftead of being deferred by the
previous forms of the Bill for nearly fix weeks.
Mr. Pier faid, that the principle recommended by
his Noble Friend who kilt fat down, if adopted in the
Bill, would very confiderably obviate his own objec-
tions: for under the forms propofcd by the Bill, as
it now Rood, initead of having any force fuch as that
propofed by the Bill, ready to ad in any neceffary de-
gree of promptitude, they would not be ready before
the month of March, 1804. The projed mentioned
by his Noble Friend was precifely conionant with one
he had himfelf propofed to offer; and he only waited
to heir what amendments were intended in the Bill,
before he would venture to obtrude his own foggef-
tions upon the Houk. The great object of Perlis.
mein was tohave this meafure earned into effect, with
as little delay as poffible ; and he therefore exulted,
means would be found of rendering the provitions of
the Bill effectual for that purpofe. The means propof-
ed by his Noble Friend prefented the thorteß mode of
learning ; and if offers came forward of voluntary fee•
vice, to the extent in which it was propofed to arm the
population of the country, the compulfory provillone
of the Bill would be rendered unneceffary : but if vo-
luntary offers did not come forward to the extent de-
fired, then the Bill wOuldfurnifh compulfory powers
to make up the deficiency. But voluntary ervices
were certainly preferable to any which were to be ob-
tained by compulfion in any fhape. His original idea
on this rapture was not to wait for the Wren of vo-
luntary fervice, which might be extremely flow in
their coming forward, but to carry the demand to
every man's door, and ro are who was willing to fern,
and to what extent. This might be done under the
direeon of the Lords Lieutenants in the different
counties, by the Deputy Lieutenants, Confiables,
and other Officers in the different baronies, hundreds
and parifhes ; and thus at once, and in a very thou
time, the difpofition to voluntary ferviee would be
afcertained ; for while the whole were called out to
attend the training and drilling, the other bufinefs of
canvaffing and enrolling might at the fame time pro.
ceed ; and, according to one of the chuffs in the
Bill, by which any county or diftriff, upon funn-
ing a certain quota of volunteers was to be exemp-
ted from the other operations of the Ad, ,the exi-
gencies of the public (creme would thus be effeded
in the molt defirable way. He chore to recommend,
however, that the proportion requited of each coun-
ty or dißrid, as its full complement, Olonld be named
in the Bill; and if in(tead of that full complement by
compulfory means being brought forward, three-
fourths or four-fifths of the number of volunteers
fhould be deemed fufficient, the further operation of
the Ad to be fufpended in fuch meaty or dißria.
He did not mention this as admitting that, under the
compulfory principles of this Bill, any new duty or
unprecedented hardthip was to be thereby impofed
upon the people of England, as the power was an
efiablithed prerogative of the Crown, as old as the
Contiitution itfelf, to call upon every male individual
in the State to Rand forward in arms for the defence
of the country; but he very much apprehended that
notwithitanding the good intentions of thofe who
brought forward this Bill, under the forms pre.
kribed therein, for carrying its purpofea into died,
thofe purpofes would be molt materially impeded,
if not utterly defeated. His with was, that im-
mediately on the bill being puffed into a law, his
Majeßy fhould iffue his Proclamation for affem-
bring all men within the purview of the bill, at a
given place in their refpedive dikriee, and that the
enrolment fhould proceed forthwith. He had limped
a clank, which he propofed to offer for the confid.ra•
lion of the Committee. Very toughly it was flowed,
he 'mutt own; but he milled the idea w•uld be more
correctly thaped under the colleitive wifdom of the
Committee, by which he thought the whole requilite
force could be enrolled and armed, and would com-
mence their difcipline within three weeks ; whereas,
according to the arrangements laid down in the
Bill, and the time allowed for the various per-
fons appointed to carry it into effect to do their duty
and make their returns, it would take finy days to
effect the purpofe ; fo that a meafure of fuch urgen-
cy, infiead of the promptitude required to put it in
operation, would not be completed until fix days be-
fore Michaelmas day; at which time, by the letter
of the Bill, the time of training and difcipline would
have nearly expired, and there would be left for the
purpofe only the opportunity of a tingle Sunday be-
fore the rich of neat March. Having detailed the
various numbers of days allowed in the bill for the
meetings of Deputy Lieutenants in Counties and
other preparatory as well as operative meafures for
making returns to Government of the numbers of
perfons within purview of this bill, he propofed very
confiderably to lioness the periods allowed for filch
returns, by which he ffiewed the practicability of re-
ducing the whole period of do days, as laid down in
the bill, to three weeks.
Lord Cermet aeon explained die point to which
his Right Honourable Friend, who bad jug fat down,
alluded, with refped to the operation of this Bid before
the enrolment thould be made. The fail was, that
the cornpulfory power of calling every man to parade
in cafe of neceffity, would by the provifions of the Bill
vet in hi, Majeay, but the of the Bill was, that
this compnUory power not interfere with the
voluntary offers of the people, from which an ince-
bauflible farce was espetted, fully competent to nil-

fwer the purpofs ef fecurity, to nerve withont
pence, and to be trained without any material iu
convenience to the individuals engaged.
Mr. PITT expreffed his with that the propofed
armament fhould not be entirely free from expence,
as his Noble Friend Rated, but that fuch of the
poorer claffes as thould be employed at dircipline,
fhould be remunerated for the time they might be fo
employed.
The SECIIITARY at Wax had no objection that his
Majefiy Should be inverted with a power to dire& the
Lord Lieutenants, Deputy Lieutenants, and other
authorifed perfons in the feveral dinrifls, to canvafs
for volunteers, but on recolledion be felt that dime.
tions were already ilfued to that effed, in purfaance
of an Ad of the prefent Seffion, for the defence of
the realm, and to render which more effelual the
Bill before the Committee was introduced. From
this Ad the Right Honourable Gentleman read an
extra& in rapport of his affertion, direding returns
to be made by each of the perfons to whom the or.
den were addreffed *llse number willing to be en-
rolled for the public defence, and the manner in
which each willed to nerve. With refped to the wills
expreffed by the Right Honourable Gentleman, that
if three-fourths of the whole of the prepared amount
thould volunteer, then no eampulfion &meld be re.
forted to, the Right Honourable Gentleman was in
error as to the amount at which he calculated that
proportion. for as the clafs from t to 31 years of
age was ass to 24. to the whole population of the coun-
try. and was computed at from 4 to soo,ooo men,
the proportion he referred to was evidently excetfive.
He objeded to the remuneration recommended by
the Right Honourable Gentleman to all thofe of the
lower claffes who thould be employed at drill, as
opening door to frauds. There was, however, a
claufe so the Bill to confider the time of thofe who
thould act be liable to the poor.' rates, who were
the only perfons, in his judgment, entitled to the
remuneration to which the Right Hon. Gentleman
alluded.
Dr. LAWIIIINCI acknowledged that the Houfe
owed much to the Noble Lord by whom the amend.
(pent under confideration w* propofed. although it
went in Wise degree perhaps to import potthumous
penalties.
Sir J. Put Tsrxv difapproved of the idea, that the
voluntary offers of three-fourths timid exempt from
fervice thofe who might be fo bafe in fuch a crifis as
the preCent to (brink from their duty. He cautioned
the Houfe on reckoning Co much on the extent of
voluntary offers, or on the efficacy of volunteers in
cafe of attack. The Honourable Baronet declared
that he had many other otifervations to offer on the
Bill, but that he would not any longer trouble the
Committee. On the whole, however. he could not
help feeling Come fear that the provifions of this Bill
would interfere with Tome military arrangements of
great importance. for the ellablifiuneot of which he
was exceedingly anxious.
Mr. SoIItIOAN profetad his inability to nnderftand
the argument of the Right Hon. Gentleman under
the gallery (Mr. Pitt) upon the fubjed of voluntary
offers, and the eircuentlances under which compulfioo
be relined M. With refped, however. to theft en.
loamy offers. he warded he could not het)
, hie *ith the Hon. Baronet who had kilt .7,
An the probable amount of Inch offers was
lieeerrated. but the amendment propofed by tl
his Lord, of which he much approved, pr
that. In cafe the voluntary csirit Iboeld fail,
means Should be ranted to, to fecure the
the Bill. As to the Ad of the prefent &Son.
to by the Right Honourable the Secretary
he believed that the frnits of it would be very
indeed. It appeared to be an mad trenfeript
Ae of the Lill Adminiftration, which was
uoiverfally confidered to be a very toolith
whichonat at all anfwered the ends which thofe
proprad it psofeted to have in view. The X
Gentleman read an extra& from this Ad, requit
a return of the men. and the manner in which
want to nerve. He Rated that at the time
was tarrying into execution, he was in Nowt
land, and that he raw the return made from .
in the neighbourhood--from which it appearo
13 offered to ferve in the infantry, SS in the
530 as guides, 260 as weggonen, and veo as
of cattle (a yonnarlerey&). He did ant mean
frets this that any want of fnecient seal for ,
lie fervice was to be found in the country, nor
he attribute it to any thing like thesoefal en.
but to that which he very much feared was
at prefent, namely, that the people were
ciently alive to their danger—of that ego
&mild now be fully aware and alto that in
of the menaced invafion ti:king place. his ,
at the command of his Soverdgn.
Mr. Stri.xivan fisted that direttions had
patched to the (meal Lord Lieutenants, Ste.
the returns prefcribed by the ati referred
Hon. Gentleman.

Mr. SH lIIDAN raked whether any returns
been made, and of what nature the? were
Mr. St,LLIVAN anfwered that then hid
yet fulficient time to fend in the returns.
Mr. WINDHAM heartily concurred in the
expretred by the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Sheridan
that the fpirit of the country &m id be Iv'
routed-4nd that the argument which the
able Gentleman had applied to a meafure
adminifiration (operating upon quite a dii
of things from the pretest), but which .
Gentleman hirnfelf had afterwards anfoered,
not be found to apply hereafter. With re
idea of his Right Honourable Fs iend (Mr.
fuch dillrias thould be exensmed from the
of this aa, as Ihould fumilh a certain •
volunteers, he highly difapproved of it up.—
ground, that it would tend to the introdultion
tubflitutes upon an oseafion where the arm
thould be general. He alto objeaed to his
Honourable Friend's opinion, that the
upon to ferve under this Bill &mid, if meal
qoired, he transferred to other corps. In no ,„
would be permit volunteers to be Mils removed.
Lord CASTLIIIOI4OII captained, that bya ciaufe
this bill, the penalties of defertion would atuch
any perfon, who after having been regularly train
World decline to come forward in cafe of invafion.

Lord HAWIIII3BURY willed it to be under
that the voluntary offers of a certain number
in any didria, would difcharge inch dillri& from u
obligations of this bill only; but that it was by
moans intended to interfere with or narrow the I,rc!

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Geitaria Teimarow raid, that a fpirit adequbte to
the'crifis was rapidly extending itfelf throughout this
'countryl or rather, as Coon as the polfibility of in-
vafidtt was credited, the fpirit of the people onmedi-
ately *flood forth. In Lancafhire he ftated that the
Supplementary Militia was almoft immediately filled
'np, and the Army of Referve was likely very loon to
be complete. The Honourable Member read a let-
ter which he had lately 'received from the county al-
luded to, defcriptive of the zeal and fpirit which,
prevailed in that populous atria. He quoted the
opinion of Marfhal Timone, to (hew the fuperiority •
of volunteers over any other defcription of force.
Mr. Ca/timid explained, and 'vindicated the argo-
ts:tent of his Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Pitt),
contending that it was not his objea to give an ex-
clofive preference to voluntary offers. but to give
theist a convenient chance with the other mode of
levy propofed by the bill: As to the comparifons
made between voluntary and comPulfory fervice, be
wit furprifed that a preference thould have been
given to the latter in a Britith Affembly, particulatly ,
by his Honourable Friend on the other fide (Mr.
Sheridan) who was, he confeffed, the laft man in the
World from whom he could expea filch a fentiment.
kndeech were he difpofed to lay a trap for a fpeech
front his Honourable Friend,he fhonld have thought
no expedient more likely to fucceed than to affert
that it were better to compel the &nice of Britons in
defence of their country than to rely on their volun-

tar y exertions.
Mr. SxaarnaN oliterved that the Right Honours-
ifs% Gentleman teemed indeed to intend his action
'to him as a trap for a fpeech, but if to he Gould be
difappointed, for he would fimply fay, that all he
%leant in his former obliterations was this, that we
lEhould not deceive ourfelves as to the drat of vo-
luntary seal, not doubting, however, that the seal of
IM people would be amply fufficient for the prow-
Wen or the country, provided they had an adequate
itop!effion of their danger.
Mr. PITT objeaed to the time allowed to etudia-
%les for making the returns of the lilts. Inflead of
b itays for leaving loch lifts, he propofed fevers days,
rakish amendment was agreed to.
Mr. Pity alto propofed that inftead of (even days,
%Melt were allowed to the occupiers of baulks, Ike.
kr im_a_ke return of their inmates, the words two days
be fubßituted. This amendment was alto
010014.

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nest Mae referred to Exemptions. And
*hes it came to be difeuffed whether any relit
*Steely laving by Mine in the Mid*
be exempted. it was agreed that the werdfiiiirtoo
has
be omitted, and that the Mare fined land
thus riau Nor any perfon atftually faring in the Ms.
any
When the clank was propeCed regulating the days
lite number of hours ois witich the Srlt tits flume
he trained and eaenifed to armee_
Mr. PITT rah to offer foam obiervations on that
fnat of the bill. In his opinion not a moment &odd
NIA in patting that pert of the bill into execution.
rik knee finedily the men to be called forth into
fervice were trained to the ufe of arms, the
better. Our seal and promptitude in giving effeB
tO this uneafore mull convince the enemy of fe-
rias and Ready refolution to meet him with a (pi.
tit and a vigour foth as lhould be excited by kis boa&
hi threat; and exerted to confound his infolence and
piefamption. The fooner we difplay our alacrity
and determination to this effeet, the fooner may a
door be opened fa:re-animating the torpor of Europe
by our elample ; and of pointing out the means by
Which thofe powers who now kits the road from fear,
(nay exert their energies to overthrow the giant
power under .whofe frown they mow bafelv crouch
and tremble. This example Ihould be held out to
them on Britt ground. By giving full circa to the
Meerut.' now prep:Wed, no doubt can be entertained
that the ifue of the impending conteit muit be Ten.
tiered fecure. that the invading army mint be driven
back dikomfited and (ranged, and that its proud,
prefomptuout leader Would, as his return to that
ebtutiry where kit infolenee holds out fuch lofty me.
Mess. and his vanity it fed by Mach fulfoine adulation,
xnest with nothing but (corn, contempt, and heir
Station. When hi. fhould be thus exhibited in the
toeufion and humiliation of defeat, the powers that
int :tinnier to his ambition, and &rink under his
domineering contrail; qmsld inure from their ape.
thy p and, encouraged by our example. make once
metre a gesennis boggle fhake of the op on
Win. which they no:E:4lg anew the foun-
datioa of the pride, is and profperity of
Ettiopet Theft were /Mettle motives *Web
Mould now tilittaisee osicesibia ke giviag the moft
theedy tie& to the prase iiiithre, with* alone
could humble the pries and dell the hopes of the
vaunting rule} of Franc; who mutt then defpair of
futpriting he en red, bet which fate glebe be
could have fiunded the wild fawn ef invading n
COubtry gifted with fuck various, 'entrees for baf-
fling fuch a vain and hbpekfs *nags The foes*
then the meafnre that Is principally to wield that *-
foams, it brought iota completion, the rooster ball
we be placed in an attitude of proud defiance and con-
fident fecurity t and here he could not help expteff-
ing his furprife at heating Gentians** Wit, their
anxiety left the mature now promise fined inter-
tare with the barna. Should they not be more
anxious left the llama for which they arc now fo
much concerned Ihould be reaped by thole who came•
to deprive us of the dearer poffelfion of our property.
cur independence, our honour, our liberty, and our
Lies t lithe yeomanry and country gentlemen re.
rtoufly looked to the dangers that awaited them, they
would not think about two or three days training in
a week, but they would determine es the continuance
of their military exemik until they Meld _pat in a late
to alfill and vie with the regular they Ef the cotottio
to which they woold then be able to add a cat:pir-
ating force of three or eoo,ooo Ready and detenniti-
ed men. They would fecure to their lawful owners,
iu the confidence of peace and tranquillity, the well
earned fruits of their Weary and courage, bilked
of preparing kcal, for the rapacity of in at iota&
er.. In his opinion. therefor; not kh than twenty.
and not more than thirty days Geed be allotted in
luccefrion for training the men to be railed by the
prelent bill. •
The fuggeftton of Mr. Pitt's was, however, drop,
P:dr and another amendment as heard' by Mm•

Pitt, SMd adopted by the Committee, that the dile.
rent carps Mould be exerciled a few days fticeeffivell
' within The . week, as more effeetually, tending to
create gocia difcipline. or promote a. knowledge of
the nre of arms, than twice that fpace of time at ft-
.
parate periods.
Mi Itossav expregid his dicapprobation of Sun.
day &big appointed as a day for drilling the men, on
the grounds that fuels a meafure would be obnoxious
to the feelings of many religious perfons, who would
on any other day be as ready and as willing to udder.
take any fervice for the good of the State as the molt
zealous promoters of the meafore.
Mr. Witelarozca fupportcd the opinion of the
Hon. Gentleman who (poke let, and moved that the
word " Sandal" be omitted.

Sir W. Corns decktred, that no man refpeded
more than he did the appropriation of Sunday to the
pious purpofe for which a fabbath was inaituted ;
but, on the fuppofition that an enemy were to land
on our thorn he thought that we would then think
that we had been too fcrupulous at fuch a period as
the prefent. He knew that it was improper to get
,drunk or commit other exceas on that holy day ;
but that did not teach him that we were to negled
endeavouring to acquire the means of faring our
country on a Sunday.
Sir W. &scuts .obferved. that the hardfhip of
being drilled on a Sunday is Scotland would be con-
lidered fo great, that he was certain nothing (bort of
military force would compel them to it, and many
of them would lore their lives firs.

An aniendmeat war then propofed and agreed to
fpecifying that any other convenient day would b;
permitted.
The Slat TTTTT at WAR Rated, that there were
feveral new chides to be brought up, which would be
ready by Friday, when it was propofed to read the
Bill a third time.

Mr. KINNAIRS intimated his intention to diknfs
feveral parts of the Bill. and particularly the Sella
dale, nn the third reading.
The Committee then went on making verbal alte-
rations in the different clauas. and at la got through
the Bill between four and five this morning.

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