Star.
London, England, 1817-02-19 00:00:00

BUR}' DE4LAILITION.-

We rejoice to End that the truly patriot'c displosi-
lion manifested by the Magistrates for the Division
'of Manchester, the Borougbreeves and Constables or
Manchester and Salford, and other Inhabitants of
those Towns and their Neighbourhood. by their Re-
solutions, entered into on the 13. h of Japnary last, is
rapidly pervading every part of the loyal County
Palatine of Lancaster; and we insert with the greatest
pleasure the following Declaration agreed to by the
respectable Inhabitants of Bury and its Neighbour-
hood, in that County, a veyy kw days after the Man
ebester Meeting had taken place, and at a time when
they were exerting themselves in the most benevolent,
liberal, and judicious manner in relieving the unavoid-
able sufferings of their Labouring Poor; foe which
purpose they had subscribed near one thousand pounds.
EAGLE AND CHILD INN,
Busy, I.A ti CA 4105., lan. 50, 1017.
At a mErriNn held here convened tor the purpose of car-
rying into effect the very liberal Subscription which has beet)
entered into by the resActabic INHAIIITANTS within the
Townships of BURY and ELTON, for the RELIEF tiE the
LABOURING POOR within their respective Districts,
EDMUND YATES, Esq. ha the Char:

We, the undersigned, unenimnuely rests/we—
That we now feel ourselves Imperiously called upon to form
an Association for the purpose of endeavouring to defend the
InhalAtauts of this Town and Neighbourhood against the evil
imentiocs of designing and mischievous indivolvais, who, under
ilse specious pretence of reforming abuses in the Government of
our Country, are in reality intending to overturn that Constitu.
dots which has boo the boast of ages; and to which, under
Divistl PROVIDENCE, me are indebted for every earthly ulessiog
which we enjoy. We consider this a duty which we owe also
to our King, and our Country in generals we are therefore de-
termined to endeavour, at this important crisis, to support that
Government which hitherto has protected every individual in its
just rigtits, who has bad the happiness to five under Ir. fur these
purposes. we also think it mesh's' to request the eo-operation tit
all well.dispoied persons within this Town and Neiglibutnhood ;
and we call upon all respectable Houschohlers to join us in int.
iuediately becoming Special Conrahles, that we may be ready
to aid the present Civil Power in case of necessity.
Edmund Yates James Shaw Adam Hell
Waikato Higten Henry Butterfield I.awrenceWil.liog
Ellis Ctioldre Richard aetcher Thomas Bat- co 'by
Thomas Hutchinson Jahn Batter by James ita.hile
Thomas Norris Wclaanc Goodlad James Dawson
Jonathan lawyer Janne Goodiasi Widictin Lives*,
William Hardinan John Holland Ti.omas Cross
Charles Openthaw Robert Shaw John Cross
&mud %Vouticock John Walmiley Lawrence Hall
lulu) Wuoccuck James Scott lames Cropper
William Calruw Henry Whitehead John Booth
James Hutchinson John Whotheati James Whittaker

I lamas Porter
John !atilt

Wm. Crompton
Robert W oud

John Hanson
James Porter

Thos. Porter, jun. Benjamin Hit Isaac Wrigley
Richard Mc.Mellon 1 Minn. Bridge T. Porter, sen.
Richard Walker N alkalis Bridge Joins Brierley
John Kay, link Hill John Dawson Edmund Whitworth
Charles Kenyon Thomas Shaw S. Holker Hallam
'l2iontas Calrow J. Woollier, jun. William Appleton
W. H. Hutchinson Edmund Cropper James Horroit
John Grundy Samuel Hopkins Charles Mills
John Hutchinson John Hutchinson John Lomat, sen.
Richard Hudgsou Thomas Hutchinson James Redfern
Isaac Wood Thos.Waralewonk Richard Kay, sen.
Mm Wood 3. Woollier, fen. Joseph Holt
John Jackson James Woollier John Healey
John Dotson Joseph Woollier Thomas Barren
Robot Battenby Matthew Walton Richard Howarth
John Wyke Richard Wood Thos. Booth, sm.
Thomas Opensbaw, J. Measlovrcroft Sam. Buckley, stn.
Fern Grove Edward Bothwell James Parker
Horrocks Spencer Charles Leigh Jahn Nuttali
William Walker Joseph Bentley Thomas Pilk!ngton
Ole. Grind. Walker John Platt Wm. Kenyon
Juin Kay, Che,hans Samuel Openshaw Thio.Waimesley
J. Omuta*, Pun. John Openshaw Richard Oftenhaigh
bole, Jacob Wood Robert Parker jun.
J. Opeuthaw, jilts. do William Kay Thomas o•Hrra
I. Upeushaw, do. Alexander Forbes John Scholes
G. Openshaw, do. Moses Bonfield Joseph Newbold
sainted Balker Richard Nuttall 'I bonus Lord
R. Kay, Mow Side Matthew Barlow Richard Holt
James Jenkinson John Poison Janus Gee
Richard Barth James Warburton Henry Cnwpe
James Whitehead • Edward Grundy Richard Howard
Richard Whitehead James Jardine Thomas Dixon.
Thomas Waking '1 hosnas Crain ' John Cross
Robert Wild Wm. Haworth Richard Aspinals
lames Fletcher Jams Wuod Wm. Barnes
Robert Johnson b..us. Fleets's, jun. Allen Norris
James Greenleaves James Booth 1 hos. Wilkinson
Edmund Utbsou John Fletcher Joan Heaton
J. Kay, Brookshaw Thomas Fletcher Joseph lkoadky
William tia:l Thomas Howard James Yates
Richard Fichwick Francis Nona Wm. Noma
Thomas Hasiant John Gretbalgh James Smith
John Hall * John Hawoesh 'Thomas Crompton
William Hall Richard Hamer Wm. Norris
Witham Hall, jun. James Smith Richard Booth, jun.
Richard Kay, sea. Charles Kenyon James Hall
Richard Kay, jun. Julio Orturod Win. Wood
James Kay James Daritt Win. Hardman
Tbsiosas Kay John Woulfenden Benjamin Scholield
John Scholes 'Thomas Norris Richard Heaton
John Grant Thomas Wilkinson .IPhisKitou
Charles Grant John Haworth John Rostran
Henry Ussewurth Ri.bert Parks. Robert Kay
Samna Ashton • &mud Hauser Win. Roberts
Thomas Crompton, William I ickie Thee. Williamson
Organist John Tickle Thomas Pilling
Robert Trimble John Smith Wm. Huh

James Hoggius F.dw. Humptria
Thomas Lees Thomas Rhodes '
J. Wrigley, Rock Josiah Baird:tun
Join Warburton James Linsey
Manias Warburton Robert lours
Wham Burks James Nuttall
Joseph Wilcock Rob. Ellis Curare
James Chadwick Fronds Mather

hisitui Knowles
John Rowan
Wm./461'mi
Jolla Ward!sword'
JSUICS Snatch
Trios. itantsbbtiont
Joseph *faylta
KU Gorton

Mkha~ Chadwick
William Kay
unstasi Barracks
S. Appleton
S. Appleton, jvn.
llonjantin Dawson
Him Knight
John Lomax
Omega Harris
Joseph Parrett
Join Shaw
James Radians
James Fletcher
,Ckarlos Holt
Moms Standite
Henry Ped
Mac Chadwick
Alm Norris
James Harrison
Cfristopber Norris
John Norris
Wslnuley Yates
William Smith
Thomas Cass
Thomas Howard
Jarvis Hanky
is. Duckworth
Samuel 1 homes
Thomas Limey
Edward Carter
Thos. Matlack
Abraham Wood
Minh. Wood, jun.
Jahn Smethurst
Itiebard litnalturst
Crompton •
'I homes Agar •
'lMilibent *twin
John Wituchead

George Holt Rich. Warburton
Jo. Chadwick, jun. Thomas Bury
JASULV Mather John- Mooch
James Opeashaw Samuel Pilling
Js. Openskaw, jun. James Stead
George Lees Thomas Bentley
John Howard John Nußall
Robert Millit John Omit&
John tloull J Ann Kay
Rills Chantiloer Thomas Lomax
Themes Rained! Henry Whittaker
John Whitehead Robert Speocer
William Goon Peter Rothwell
James Lon= Robot George
Samuel Healey Thomas Hoiroyd
Jowl* OM Wm. RabwsY
Allinson Juba Hull
William Allard Joseph Gorton
John roster Mat. Woisteaholme
Edward Whitworth Thomas Richardson
John Baia John Corspe
Thos. Wardlewerth Jphn 'hither
Thomas Clough Alexander bmith
James Ashworth Therms liaroshaw
William Turner John Broadwoed
Thomas Winder Teddy Isherwood
Ashen Trappe Arthur Potter
Thomas &mat John Cones
Tlionsps Bassett, On. ileary Gorton
Jahn Clerarsiutw Samuel tip/wood
Thomas Hen= Samuel Theasite
Nam Jones ' ham Jackson
John How* Wiu•Ontsakeek
Henry Whitehead Peter Tickle
James Janus Moadminedk
William Wend . John Nista& '
I. Pisteber., Waggon John Bradley
Rey %Lie, Bras- Samuel Pilling
diseente Samuel Lomas

William Serles
Samuel Kay

!Award Utile, do lobo dre, ash
kuger Ro•coor, do. Henry t.haa
Sohn rating, Bolton- James Cone
street John Ki ler
Alban MiCertnty,do. Henry Wm horror&
Wm. Glover, do. Ple. Orienita;gh
R. Fletcher, butcher '1 hooves Wo
Thomas Lockbead Thorns; &Irnton!
R. Rathsvr% Elton John Rostr.m
.1011 Bridge, dn. Wzrbsrton
F. Turner, Rick '1 hot. Howard
Joseph k.otwisle, do. Thos. Vie e:ter
John Leach, painter It icl.d. Mtliett
Rechard Norris John Greeniralgh
George Butterworth Robert Hope
'Wm. Gee John Nutt :tit
James !form: John Ogden
Josia4 Schollield Wm. Chas. *Nadal!
John Poilbt l'huatio Spencer
John Kershaw George H..worth
James Gee, sett. James hlaudes;ey
John Gee Robert Svencer
Seholfishl Thomas
Edovool Boiland Rich..c4
Ruben Kay, jun. bolo. :,:tkion
lotto Drardett Julio Kann sbdtto:7l
Samuel H.irrison J.,teph Hon
'1 homes Gee Ratts:o:tottt
Samuel Bowker Wil:iant
1 hooves Clegg N..thalt Wallw
Rol,crt Aspioall 11'illiant Hone.%
Walliant It bodes Fraa. Van
John Sehollield Michael Itioue,!ey
!aim s W rig!. y George MAIL:4
Samuel Chadwick 'Walker Olive
George i.soltinge James %%Aden
W.ldam Hartley •It homes Multoo
Joseph MADOU Peter HAW.
John Turner Wm. Iltr..littatt
Robert Chadwick Chr s:optow Guest
Igoe Smith George it Irmo
Witham 1 assey Kish WhAtali se
Jonathan Smith lyho Ram.hinttgla
fkorge Futon Mai Mather
...nits Hargreaves Peter tVien
James Kay James Pendlebory
Richard Hamer Matthew Hansom.*
11nunits Kay Samuel Mammon's

Robert Hun•avil
Rich.
James Gill
George ()Pliant
John Clemishaw
John Bridge
Konerr Se:oles
John Speticr
Joseph Nitiethoutt
William Pat kinson
John Brown
John Shaw
James liarlow
John PoMeg
Kith& Nu:reli
James Nu:tall
Francis Eaglin
Wnt. Orrenhalgh
Timms Holmes
James Ashworth
Robt. Greenhalgh
John Smith
Nam. Hamer
John Fletcher
Sam. lilhantler
Rain. Holt
Geo. Barnett
Sam. Healey, km.
Geo. Pickup
Thwarts A..tnrm
James Clegg
.John itich.trdton
James Haworth.
Leonard Wild
Samuel Gee
Limes Dawson
Anthony Hulmes
Juba Hardman
ic1,..1111.1d
Wm. l;ev
'Kohn. Shepherd
John Hulurea
Jam!, Ker.haw
Robt. Ker haw
1..11n Bentley
John Sao'held
Jus. Rantlru

LONDON MARKEIS, FP.BRUARr IS.

Cl rron.—The stock and arrivals of Cotton in
London continue inadequate to the extensive de-
mand : the quantity of every desciiption, with the
exception of 'Bengal, is trivial ; the purchases by
private contract are in consequence limited to 1,300
bags. The East India sale consisted of ne irly 2.uttti ;
the whole went off freely ; the Surats went off 2:1 a
nd advance on the prices of 10th of January. The
Bengals, although in extensive supply, went off Id to
Id per lb. hightr than the late sales.-1,706 Surats
of very ordinary quality realized 13d a 14d, averag-
ing ISO; good 141.1 a 16„tel ; datnHged 7f d to 131 d ;
42 Bengal., ordinary to middling, a 1 1.1; da-
maged Sd a 9,1c1 : the whole reported to be
the trade, snbject, of course, to the duty of Id per lb.
it used for home consumption ; the other purchases
were-100 Pernams 2s a 2s Id ; a few very ordinary
23d ; 250 Paras 23d 280 Demeraras ?Aid a2s Id;
5.5 Barbadoes 19i41 a 2111 ; a small parcel common
West India 181 d a 201 d; and, exclusive of duty, 300
Surats were taken Ind a 14+; and 280 B:nzals
100 a 111 d.
The accounts from the country yesterday rate a
decline in the prices, in consequence of considerable
arrivals from America, &c. It occasioned a tempo-
rary heaviness here ; but there is to little Cotton
offeting, that no declint was submitted to. It is ex-
tremely probable that the prices of Cotton will greatly
fluctuate for some weeks, according to the arrivals.
The quantity yet reported is greatly below the anti-
cipated imports; and so greatly is the stock of Cot-
ton in the country reduced, that, should easterly
winds set in, of which there is some probability at
this season of the year, the prices might advance
rapidly. By the last letters from the United States,
accounts had been received of the late great depres.
sion of the Cotton markets in England, which would
occasion some decline in prices in America, and
would retard the shipments : on the contrary, should
the westerly winds continue, the arrivals are expected
to be on a most extensive scale.

Suoan.—The request for Museovadoes during the
early part of last -week, was languid ; towards the
close the demand rather revived, though the sales
were not at all on an extensive scale ; the purchasers
for a length of time have been holding off, in expec-
tation that a eery considerable decline would take
place; they now take only for their immediate wants,
the general expectation of a depression has not yet
subsided; the prices still 6s or 7s lower; it is, how-
ever, to be remarked, that the supplies from the loe
Dutch Colonies, Demerara, Berbice, &c. will come
early to market, and the quantity has been fur some
years increasing.
Cotres. There have been no public sales of
Coffee since our list Publication, and we believe
none advertised; the holders evince much &awe's,
though the market has as yet disappointed the gene-
ral expectation, the demand continuing limited to
small parcels for the home consumption of the coins-,
I try; the shippers skew no disposition to anticipate
their spring orders ; the consequence has been a
heavy market. The Mails from Hambureh and
Irom Holland will for some weeks be looked for with
much anxiety, as they will sveatly govern the market
prices here; lately Use chid exports have been for
the Mediterranean, Commerce in that qoatter having
lately been greatly extended.
' Rum, BRANDY. and HOLLANDL—The demand for
I Rum continues so limited, that use prices are nearly
nominal; purchases might be made below our re.
duced quotations, on account of the languid market ;
the holders however anticipate a considerable revival,
more especially for export, as the prices are exceed-
ingly low, and there, is every probability of the ship-
menu to the Baltic commencing immediately, owing
to the uncommon open season. Brandies arc agaei
lower, on account of the late arrivals ; some Spanish
Brandy at market is held about out quotation.—
There is no alteration in Geneva.

TOBACCO. The contract 'for ToSacco b♦ the
French Government continues to attract consiorrabie
attention ; the accounts yeiterday received mention,
that the day appointed had been changed front the
10th to the 15th instant, on account of the number
the tenders. and the great variety of samples; which
had to be minutely inspected; the prices in this mar-
ket are *Meat variation, scarcely any business cf-
iected since our last report.
Taanz.—There is no alteration in the
prices or Timber since Mir last report. The m br-
chants, interested li► the Canada and Norway
•re still in the same state of suspense respecting ate
proposed alteration in the do:.

PARLJAMENTiIRr .'ROCEEL',":ES,

HOU:T O 7 COMMONS, r.:BRUARY

This day heine fizoci for the a; i ointrropt of a criroituitte,.,
ballot, to try the tveri:s of il.e L,tr Lisstioh f C the 111.14.1.:h
Woliori-BA•ser, awl vim r,r bt:rh• 100 N:•tnbas Lin-sett •
four o'clock, the Ht:use inurrdis,:ely.
HOUSE OF I.ORDS, FEBRUAR.7 to.

Sir S. Re:.titt4, Mr. I.e.tcrt. Mt. Coo vsTeuo, Mr. !..r,-.._
ettierr, Mr. !Ural CT, end Mr. BROTOtIAII, • hCZNI c.
the Qiieemherry Leases. The hear.ig of the fur
finished. Farilitr proeimings on Friday.

A person from use We•tnd.:.t.•r Badge Commisskeer, rte.
sentes! Papers.—Laid on the fah:e.

IRISH OteTit.t.EflifT.
The Eirl of DARNLEY, r. leering to the appliestilni
stopping the Motlit ties is Ireland, but without gi'i"g imY a; '-
,non on the propriety of such a Mentfte, stated, that he thori,.t
subj:Tl well worthy ci Cofl Or re. VII, and therefore ra
!et. an ACCtitAIIII of the Grain exporter' tr •an 'ream: !:rely • urel
a given treeiNJ ; and for another A -e•tent rtlatirc to tt r isrze
subj:ct which motion, were agrr,l to.

REPORT OF T!IE COMM urEE Or SECP
The E irl of HA RROWISY p esented the it,•,77:
of the St.cret Curornittec app. inted to istpii.e tiro
certain Mixtings and Coinbinations endangerilLg ate
public tr,nquillity.

The Printed Co:.7es of the Report have not yet
been issue!, but we have eiien the sulstance t nal
lenglh in our L art
The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved that the P.
prt be laid s.n avid be taken into co,.aice.
ration on Friday, hat the House be uanialacd
tor that day.
Earl GROSVENOR expreseed his ',ripe „ „f,
dente to justify the all.gatiops in the Rei not
lira to he laid on the tabie
the Co:Ili:lime wag. file 1itt0,13.1 was tn.,. •ety
ted. Tiie lteigth.ge ot C.e Report Wal 4111 mil
a aisaffecti.iti might b • rs',l). Inar.l .1 ;
lat4n aheady slo.wit, t'iat un fur :he
.efficient means existed fur soppres,in, ...rt
of the disaffected. were r : ...g• r
their c:iuntry than t1.0..e uho wr di I r • ::!
front a partial diss;ff.ctivn to abridge 0* c•
the wl!o!e ol the peop'.e.
Tl:e Earl of HARWOIVI3Y state.!, that • n
occasion the course had been adopted which
under similar citcurnstances, been adopted or, r.t.•:!::..r
UCCRiiMiti. He had alwtys understood, that ota•
the objects of Parliament in referring parr. tl
Committee of Secrecy was, that a grcattr dev.e tt
trust might be reposed in such a Conani:tre Lan is
on con,,iittited in the ordinary way i and that it wa.
to be left to the discretion of the Committee whether
the evider.cc unght -or ought not to be Lid sin
table. Ia twiny cases, it was obvious that the vs
duction of tine inforrnatioa on which the Report tea
founded might have the eitect of counteracting tit
objects which Parliament m'ght have in view in adbEt-
ing this course nt proceeding.
The House was ordered to be summoned for
' Itrrnr,cuMENT AND REIOIII4

LAND f:1 PLTITONS.

Lord HOLLAND ik.it:cf, tint he had same Pei.
tions in tis hand, grounded on the distrested faux.
Con o: he country, to be per seeted to tl:e'r Lards) ipe
Hou3e. The first Petition was from the M
Aldermen, and Livery of London. For;ei.littcec
ing the Report which had been jast read, he Nusie,l
the House would listen to the c treplaints at the p.,
pie with indulgence, and the mere €SpeClay. 1:1 Ct • •
sequence of diet Retort, would do nothin4 u, etscots
rage the exercive et the rittltt of whittling the ttt-.
Houses et Parfament. Whatever might be the 71•
legations and statements i t Petitions, if tire! Ivor
couched in respect; ul language, their Lordili:4
always been williag to receive them. It there e:it.
inde.d, such practices as were sn:ed in the Rep-,
then it was the policy of the Houte to receive wilt
the utmost indulgence the expression of the opitriata
of Petitioners, whrtever those rpinions might he, if
the Petitions were couched in respectful terms.
did not say so b.-catise in the Petitions st,hie,h he st.i
abnut to present there was aey pray: r to Witch to
could not in any degree assentl but even if the Karr
had beton for antnr.l Parliaments and witverei
suffrage, it would be a calumny to say, that, em
that acc:eviit merely, the Petitioners had a des'ga
subv*ert the I.{u& and constitution of the countr).—
His opinion was decidedly opposed to any such lid

of reform as that i but when the people were ins
state of such distress, looking to the right and to the
left for r,lief, and formed erroneous npinions f a'.4
wt.uld best contribute to their relief, that error t‘0.,!1

I

Tr
sta
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be beA pointed out by discussions in Parlitin.t,..
and if the one-halt or one-fourth of what was st4tol
in the Report was true, the Ministers were d.:ei,o
tesrmible fir not asserrilitir,g Parliament at au .:4••
liar period. , It was, however, matter of great IA.:.
faction, that at all the public meetings thitt had nt.'s
lately held, the people had always agreed tts retinue
Parliament ; ai.d as long as they did thus sip.? t 6
petition the L-gislature, it Willi .a s rung inthiraten
that the Cavaitution was safe. Tne people, by 11413
.i.etitioning, acknowledged that it was .0 Parliaisri
they ought to loul: t. t Relief, and no..h.r.g could .1::
so dangerous as at, impresron among the perrpie tits:
it WAS ill vain in make t heir coinirlairils to rmilice
As to the pe;ition which he now had to peva., 4:
there had been no other name to it but teat sti
first appeared, it would be entitied to serious '
der.;to.n. Ilse name was Wood, L• rd Mayor t 1
London ; a gentleman who not only Lehi the
ticn of C'.iet Magistrate of the first metropolis
Europe, but had als t united the suffrages of his
luw•ciu ens in his favour to sin event almost tore.
mi.:airs!, who had employed his weV-liscred r-
pula rit y in enforcing the laws, and had es. r.z.l
himself as a fvfitgi,trate in the sui.vression or diss,r;e:
and tumult, certainly nut lets strenuously L.:sn
more in favour with the Ministers of Gevernet”,-!•-• •
It was signed by other Aldermen, ani ,na.t
of the Livery, wha, as they had shewu 5 t.
duct throtighout their whole lite, that n.)
dun would induce them to sacrifice tl.e. I.he,tli.'.
the people, had lately also provzd that they
capable of yielding up at.the summons of clover •
the real interests of their country. A. to the !I.':
tenec of the evils chiefly complained of, he wear!
he could d.s-gree with the Peiltioners• b,mle 'ler
tilit WAS made of the cattites of these evils, tint it s'.s
not now that the causes could be corirle.ely
gated. •.Wharfs, however, they in Pari;amett
et Oeluston spread among the people, tltei
to forget that delusiOns might be, and 1144 b• el
trsed or. PA.ament itself en these

L

r::..11 said in Parliantert—N We fore
is merely the amoral effect of a trans
awe. War to a sate of peace !" B.vt.
•qo +ices been foreseen at the time of
, liped by the Nable Earl (Liver.
very the:rent in its terms from th.it
been concluded The Kai.ters now

t .y t eeseve ell this distress. It they did,
pr teasel a gross delusion on Parliament
,rej the puttee ; for i t the Speech from the Throve,
vein:vie of the list Sessinn of Parliameet,
had stated, oit the Agriculture, Menefee-
ores, and Commerce of the Conetret were in a
foorehing condition. They did nut, therefore,
ietoee the present distresses as the mound effect
,f the transition; or if they did, they practised
3 gross delusion on Parliament and the public.—
Tut tht•s• petitions were a true indication of the
itee of feeling in the country there could be n,
bost Never in his memory had the country been
e such a state of distress, one it was natural that
;dement should be called upon to adopt some
roasnres for their retnevel. The petitioners here
eeke to the House in a respectful and temperate
then disclaimed the toe.•will and visionary scheme, .
suffrage, and also of annual Parliaments,
eheh Le alto disapproved, though without confound-
eeit with the other. It was curious that, though
eeelct had often been discussed in Parliament,
sis seierne of annual Parliaments and universal sut-
e,,o, as claimed on the ground that it was the right
ef.e,e p:ople by the Constitution, had never been
e esletely confuted, probably because it had always
cansidzred as too Absurd and groundless to need
seeatatien : and he had no hesitation in saying, that
be eleeeht the grounds and principles on which this
ce was made, were,raere dangerous than the claim
The people had been t.)14.1, that universal suf.
feee and annual Pediments were their right by the
hx ani cunsetution of their country. New if hr
cue called upon to point out one particular above
til othcis, on account of which the peoples of this
c.::::try were superior to the people of any other
country that he had ever seen, he would maniocs that
meted respect for the laws for which the people of
England were resteatkable ; and nothing, therefore,
ens more calculated to mike a deep impression on
teem than to be told that they were by law eutitled
to that which they were not permitted to enjoy. It
vas of the greatest importance, therefore, to con-
vince the people, that the grounds on which such
visionary scheineseosted were completely erroneous.
As to universal suffrage, that was the wildest fancy
that could possibly enter into the conception of any
human being; and as to annual Parliaments, the
people were not entitled to them by any law, and
rime particularly, not entitled to them by the Com-
mon Law. All the Acts of Parliament which had
been refereed to, from the earliest times down to the
Long Parliament, including the Act 16th of Charles
the First, had for their object not the limiting of the
duration, but the frequent holding of Parliaments.
This was the object of all these Acts, beginning with
the sth of Edward 11. and in one respect he wished
that our modern Acts had more resemblance to them,
for they were very seort, hardly above four lines each.
All of them spoke of Parliaments to be frequently
Like, not frequently Mores; and even at present the
expression " holden" would apply rather to the as-
lerubling than to the choosing of Parliaments. But
When they came don e to the time of the Long Par,
lament, and Leaked at the preambles of the Anse
they woeld fired that the reasons applied to the heel
Runt meeting, and not frequent choosing of Paths.
meet; and to whatever excesses the Long Parliament
had at last resorted, it ought to be recollected, that
everal. persons, the best acquainted with the prin.
eples of our Constitution, such as Coke and Selden,
eere members of that Parliament. It was true that
fey of these early Parliaments sat for more than a I
year ; but even the Parliament which passed the Act
Ate Edward [I. for the frequent holding of Parlia-
ments sat for two sessiens, and wasitself prorogued. and
the King was understone even then to !mei this right.
Other opportunities would occur for the discussion of
these points; but it appeared to him of importance
not to suffer this opportunity to pass without throwing
omit these few observations. The Prayer of the Peti.
eon was for a reduction of the public expenditure,
the abolition of sinecures and useless places, some ex-
Elision of the elective franchise, and some alteration
in the duration of Parliaments. On these latter points
he gave no opinion at present ; but aft men of sound
Igment agreed that reduction was necessary to a
artich greater ext-nt than had as yet been proposed
by Ministers. He was not, however, one of those
thought that no alteration for the better could
ply be effected in our system of representation.
• ve, too much to say of any human Institution,
that it could not be amended but when he consi-
dered the variety of opinions among those who called
for Parliamentary Reform, lie was under some ap-
prehension that the object_ was not attainable at this,
moment, and that the subject was not in a state to
ei,able even Parliament to decide satisfactorily upodl
▪ But in the mean time the attention of the people'
(eget not to be diverted from the object of diminishing
tee wins of influence and corruption—a species of
Reform w loch might be immediatelyearried into effect.,
was vet y far from agreeing with those who belt!
et that no good could be done without Parliamentary
Iteorm, though he admitted that some alteration in
!le system of Representation might be beneficial, es-
teielly in the northern part of the British island.—
R. form would neither pay the National debt, feed
•!e hungry, nor prevent Improvident wars. He had
lother petition to the same effect as the first, from
itelaeitants of the Ward of Aldgate; and a third
eti the bough of 11.otherglen. This last petition
• prayed tor Reform, but chiefly for Retrench.
':it• and stated our improvident wars as one great
• tee of the presenrdistress, and t that assertion he
• '1 steel the particular satteution o! the House. The
'error situation of the coutitry was this—We had a
'clise almost beyond the endurance of a loyal peo-
t, an eipenditioe beyond. that revenue; and we
dnn a system of , foreign policy, and also of do-
eto policy, if Ireland were included, beyond teat
.peuditure; and no real and permanent good would
done, till our revenue should be reduced in a
.ate coeinnensuratewith the depressed situation of
country, and our expenditure should be reduced
est cur revenue. He concleded by moving, that
':at petition be readoeerhat and the .other peti.
Were then reads and laid on the table, which
o quer! te.

• . •
. tiarl CR.E't tote to pretitot a Petltioo from the
Common C;ancil of the City of London. It was
signed by Town Clerk, and was in the form in
which retititms had usually been presented and 're-
ceived from the Corporation of London. it descritsed
the distress of the conntry, not as proceeding from
temporary but permanent camel, attributing all err
existing difficulties and entharrassments to the pro-
lusion of onr civil and milit try expenditure, and to
tit- maintenance of a standing army in the time of
peace. The remedies the Petitioners roposed for.
these evils were economy and retrenchment in every
branch of public expenditure, and a reform in the
Commons' Hanle of Parliament. The Petitioners
in the present Petition, as in that which had been
presented by his Nobltt Friend, disclaimed an vi-
sionary and impracticable plans of Reform ; amng
which was to be included the claim to annual

Paaliament3 and universal suffrage. df late so fre-
quently advancel, and which his Noble Friend had
proved to rest on no authority in the history, and to
have na foendation in the Canstitotion of the country.
Such, in a few words, was the nature of the Petition
he had the honour to present to their Lordships, and
one more deserving of the attention of Parliament
his! never been presenteJ. in that Hoase. With re-
spect to the topics the Petition embraced, most of
them had been already fully discnised; but with re-
gard to that of Parliamentary Reform, lie was desi-
rous of saying a few words. In common with his
Noble Friend, he disalimed. as mully impracti-
cable, any plan of Reform which had for ita basis
Annual Parliaments, and Universal Suffrae. After
what his Noble Friend had so sell said on the histo-
rical part of the subject, it was unnecessary for him
to enter into any details to ihew, that Annual Elec.
dons formed no part of the Coostitution of Parlia-
ment. Such never had been, and he trusted never
would be the Constitution of the Legislature of this
Country. But though these claims might be, on the
par: of some persons, advanced from insidious de-
signs, he well knew that many honest, virtuous, and
lwell•informed men, had supported such doctrines;
am) none more deserved this character than the late
Mr. Granville Sharpe, who had been so prominent
in advocating the claim of [Thiversal Suffrage. The
adoption of such a mode of election, he was con-
viuced, would be only a prelude to the complete
overthrow of the Constitution. It was a system to-
tally unknown to the country; but it was not neces-
coy to make out, that by reference to history, it
would be sufficient to point out the dangerous con.
sequences with which it wsuld be unavoidably at-
tended ; for were it proved that such had been the
constitution of Parliament, I should still ask what
Government, what Parliament, what race oc men in
this country, had been so infallible, as to entitle
them to bind posterity by their decision, and to im-
pose upon the country for ever, any system of Re-
presentation which they might clioase to sanction.—
On their own principles, the persons asking for Par-
liamentary Reform ought to object to such a doctrine
as this: but no particular system of Parliamentary
representation constituted any of the rights of the,
people. These right; are liberty and security : the
particular laws and constitution of Parliament are
modes whereby these rights ate obtained. There-
fore, though it could be decisively dean instrated„
that annual Parliaments and universal suffrage had
once farmed part of the law of the country, the qua-
don still to be determined would, be, whether such a
change at the present moment woeld se ihv =tans of.
securing the rights of the subject, or the reverse ? In
stating thus much, with respect to the visionary and
impracticable schemes of Reform which were afloat,
he must state his opinion, that the great body c 4 the
people looked no farther than to return: of the real
and acknowledged defects in the representation of
Parliament. He believed that the people had in
many instances been induced, without due conside-
ration, to petition for universal suffrage, because
they saw no appearance of any sincere disp isitiun to
promote retrenchment and' economy, er to remedy
those abuses in the constitution ut Parliam'ent which
bad been the *object of complaint from the time of
Mr. Locke to the present day. The application of a
remedy .to these defects, by those who possess the
power and influence capable of recommending its
easy adoption, would go farther in allaying public
discontent and removing the errors which prevailed
in the country on the subject of Parliamentary Reform,
than any other measure that could possibly beadopted.
From what he had stated their Lordships would per-
ceivP, that he was a friend to a moderate Reform of ,
Parliament; at the same time he was prepared to
state, that he did not carry his opinion on that subject
so far as he once had done; and oo fear of unpopu-
larity should ever deter him from any change of opi-
nion which experience might induce him to adopt on
a question of such great importance. It was not the
first time he had taken an opportunity of explaining'
his sentiments on this subject. If any thing which
fell from so bumble an inJividual as himself might
he worthy the recollection of their Lordships, it
' would be remembered, that in 1810, when he moved
an Address on the state of the Nation, he stated a

considerable modification of his opinion on the ques-
tion of Reform. The Petition which he wished to
submit to.their Lordships prayed for the extension of
the right of Suffrage to all Householders; he was,
therefore, the more desirous to state, that he still ad-
hered to the modified opinion he had avowed on the
occasion alluded to. as the plan prayed for by the
Petitioners was precisely that which he had himself
proposed in the other House of Parliament, at a
period of life when the hope of benefit from change
was usually more sanguine, and the opinion of its
necessity less temperad by prudence than at the age
in which he was Now addressing their Lordships.—
Experience had taught him to doubt the advantage
of a Reform to such an extent, but he was still
strongly of opinion that no time should be lost in
removing from the system of our Representation
those obvious stains which were the fruitful ex-
citements to discontenb----(Heer, hear, hear.)—
When it was recollected, that the people had been for
a century told by the greatest and wisest men that
ever existed in this or in any other country, that gross
defects existed in the constitution of. the House of
Commons-.-when they had been told so by Locke,
by Blackstone, by Mr. Pitt, and by 'Mr. Fox, and
even indirectly by Mr. Burke himself, when he spoke
of the shametul parts of the constitution, it *as ins-
possible that they should not look with great anxiety so
the removal of these defects; it was natural to sup-
, pose that they should .entertaia as opinion that the

en* :can or abases pointetl oat be stk.!. antlin-H
rity, would tend to remove m tny of the evils ot which I
they complained. He was therefore convinced, 0.1 I
a Reform to a due extent, and applied with States.;
mar-like caution; would be one of the too.; important I
and beneficial measures to which this or the ft:11:r
House could resort is the pierent cam of the colliery.
Whenever the subject came beta c their Ler4,iips,
he doubted not that it w 0.141 receive the solemn con-
sideration due to :itch an important cincs;ion, a‘,d
thought the present time most suitable to the propesal
of n mealareaf so salutary a name as a moderate
Ramat ; for at a time wf.cn ti it Lordships were
called upon to enact new laws for restraMing the free-
dom of the snbject, of the necessity of which he
eiroald not now speak, it was proper to evince to the
people a sincere desire to remedy existing abuses
The Petition stated, that all attempts to remove the
difficulties into which the connti y was rlunged would
be of no avail without a reform of Pkrliament. This
WAS an opinion in which he could not concur. With
all its defects, the Parliament of this country was the
best legislative assembly is the world, and was ca-
pable of redressing every evil experienced by the
country, without resorting to any alteration in its
constitution. It was certain, however, that the cor-
rection of some of the more obvioss defects •af the re-
presentation of the House of Commons, and in parti-
cular, a diminution of the patronage of the Crown,
would go far to allay mulch of that discontent which
at present existed, atcl to reconcile all men sincerely
to the practical administration of the Conititution.
Were some moderate measure of this kind adopted,
their Lordships would hear no more of :petitinns for
annual Parliaments and universal suffrage. His Lord-
ship concluded by moving that the Petition be read ;
which was done accordiogly.
Earl GROSVENOR wished to state what was the
impression left on his mind by the Petition which had
just been read, especillly as that impression was dif-
ferent from the view taken of it by his Noble Friend.
It did ant appear to him that the Petitioners intended
to declare it to be their opinion that no good could
be done until a reform of Parliament was ob-
tained ; but that, from the conduct of the present
Government, they saw no hope of a sufficient reduc-
tion of the pablic expenditure, and no prospect of the
introduction of that system of ecnir:my they had been
taught to expect in a period of peace, and that they
therefore had now only Parliamentary Reform to
look to. It would be for their Lordships and the
other House to chew that the abuses were capable
of being remedied by Parliament as at present consti-
tuted. li the people saw any effectual reduction en-
forced, any notorious abuses removed, they would
then have lees cause to petition for Reform.
The Petition was then ordered to lie on the table.

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