Star.
London, England, 1821-01-25 00:00:00

PETITIONS.

Sir W. LEMON presented a Petition from Truro,
in Cornwall, praying for the restoration of the
Queen's name to the Liturgy, and for the restoration
'of all her other rights; also for an inquiry into the
origin of the late proceedings against her Majesty.
Ordered to be laid on the table, and printed.
Colonel TYNTE presented a Petition from Bridge-
water to the same effect. In offering himself to the
attention of the House for the first time, he must ask
for that indulgence which has always been so libe-
rally extended to Members in his situation. The Pe-
tition which he had the honour to present, would
shew to the House the decided opinion entertained
by his Constituents, of her Majesty's entire inno-
cence. For himself, he would confess, that such was
not his reason for agreeing with the prayer of the
Petition, because he did not make it a question of
guilt or innocence ; he only looked at the unconsti-
tutional nature of the proceedings instituted by his
Majesty's Government. Looking at all the circum-
stances of the case, he could not but consider them
as a dangerous attack upon the Constitution of the
country. For if the measure had unfortunately
passed both Houses of Parliament, no one could say
how soon, or how often other. charges • might be
made, or other modes of trialftpted calculated to
o destroy any other member e Royal Family.
That House had made some most honourable efforts
to preserve the honour and dignity of the Crown,
and to protect the best interests of the country, by
endeavouring to stop the late proceedings in another
place, at an early period of their progress. It was
unfortunately now too late to do that ; but it was
not too late to preserve what yet remained of the
Constitution—(Hear). The country had for some
years .uffered under a suspension of those laws,
which were the bulwarks of its rights and independ-
ence ; while others had been pasted, calculated only
to suit the pressure of temporary circumstances. It
was time that these subjects should receive the atten-
tion of the House, and that the condition of the peo-
ple shc.o.d, if possible, be ameliorated. He was
aware that he might have refrained from these ob-
servations, but he deemed the occasion one on which
he might be expected to express his sentiments.--
Ordeied to be read, laid on the table, and printed.
Mr. PEARSE presented a Petition from Northal-
lerton, praying iOr the restoration of her Majesty's
name to the Liturgy, and an inquiry into the Milan
Commission.

Mr. WESTERN rose and said, that, with regard
to the latter part of the Petition, he bad understood
the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) to pledge himself, at
an early period of the last Session, that if there ap-
peared any grounds for supposing that a Conspiracy
had existed, or that perjury bad been detected,
inquiry should be made, and every endeavour used
to bring it to light. He must say, that the wit-
nesses who had given such baneful testimony against
her Majesty, had committed the grossest perjury.—
The whole testimony bore upon its very face evidence
of its own falsehood. All the charges had been sup-
ported by testimony, which alone proved that there
had been falsehood, perjury, and bribery. With these
facts before their eyes, he would ask, whether or not
there was a necessity for instituting an inquiry into
the origin of so atrocious a Conspiracy?
Lord CASTLEItEAGH said, the House was not
to be dragged into any discussion of this nature by
large words and high-sounding phrases—(Hear).—
He was sure that the lion. Member would understand
that he meant no personal disrespect, but from the
nature of the questions, and of the important subject
with which they were connected, he felt that he
ought to give no answer to the observations which
had been thrown out. If the Honourable Member
thought it proper that any measure ought to be in-
stituted by the House, he was himself perfectly com-
petent to propose it— ( Hear, hear).—lt would be in
the recollection of the House, that when the gallant
Officer (Sir R. Ferguson) brought forward his motion
in the last Session, he (Lord Castlereagh) did object
to it, because he considered that as not being the
proper moment for such an inquiry. But it rested
entirely with the House, whether the time had now
arrived when such &measure was desirable. It cer.

tainly appeared to hint to be a little singulat,
Gentlemen who had displayed so much
stop all discussion upon this question—to
the subject, as it were, at a time when it
going a judicial investigation, by causiiig
prorogation of Parliament, should now :-
dilate upon every topic with which it cow,,
sibility be connected. He should certainly
doing his duty to the House, if he were to .."t
answer to what had fallen from the Holy
Sir R. FERGUSON said, that when he
his motion before the House, the Noble
site had met it by moving the
alleging that the time was not come when ,
inquiry ought to be entered into. The time „Is
come, and he would ask if the Noble Lord
redeem his pledge?
Lord CASTLEREAGH.—If the fink Nieink,
thinks the time is come, let him submit hi -
to the House • and try—Wear, (hear).
Mr. G. BENNETT was ready to allow
one, had wished to put a stop to the progrei
infamous Bill which had been introduced
other House. What he felt then and felt ow
that in the evidence itself there was direct
conspiracy. The Noble Lord met the subjec't
the prorogation, with the expression of m
wish, that if there was conspiracy, it shoaid ,
tected and exposed. He now called upon ii;ni e,"
that anxicus wish into practice. Ile (Lord (;,,R
reagh) ought not to call upon Members on
to propose an inquiry ; it rested with himself;
Colleagues to see that it was instituted. If tbeow
any regard for their characters and themselves, r. 4
he supposed they had—if they had any regia.lic,
the character of the Country, they would male •r
delay in doing so. Charged as they were,
not say whether guilty or not—but charge.' ,
were with a participation in the conspiracy,
great majority of the Country, they could
serve their character by an inquiry into the
progress of the proceedings. The Noble
that at one time his Olr. Bennett'b) tiiends
anxious to extinguish the question altogether.
were; and now they were only anxious to detect,
guilty, whoever they were, connected with i:,
bring them to punishment. He, for one, was
anxious for that moment to come whm
would be obliged to speak out. And he
doubt but the time would come when they
forced—when they would be dragged to
not only upon this question, but upon
Ile trusted that they would be compelled
her Majesty's name in the Liturgy, from
had been, illegally he thought—indecently
sure, excluded.
Lord CASTLEREAGH," I ai
common sense, and according to the or
of business, it is the part of those who
ence of a conspiracy, to set about pt,
would be rather strange, that they who dew
be called upon to originate an inquiry
ence"—( Hear).
Sir R. FERGUSON would ask the Noble
one question. Had the conspiracy, or
spiracy, as the Noble Lord maintained it
money to the Public? If it had, that ,
guardian of the public money, and had a
acquainted with all its expenditures. _
Lord did not seem inclined to speak ; and if
sisted in refusing an answer to the question,
R. Ferguson) should give notice of a Motion
subject.—The Petition was then ordered'
laid on the table, and printed.
The Marquis of TAVISTOCK
Noble Lord, if any measures were intended
which would be calculated to relien'the
distress of the Country?
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that it
seen by a reference to the Speech from the
and to a part of the observations which. he
day before made in the House, in reply to
Honourable Gentleman opposite (Mr.
would be perceived, that his Majesty's Min.
not unwilling to feel or acknowledge the ,
sympathy for the distresi of the Agricultural
In the observations alluded to, he had
opinion to the House, that that distress was
butable to the state of the law affecting
but to temporary internal embarrassments.
port of the Committee of Inquiry in the'
led him to hope that some improved
taking the averages would be adopted, but
than this he was not prepared to state t'
sures were in contemplation.
Lord GEORGE LENOX presented a
from Chichester, praying that her Majesty
restored to all her just rights and privilege
name to the Liturgy.—Ordered to lie on
Lord WILLIAM RUSSELL present'
from the town of Bedford to the
dered to be read, and laid on the table.
Alderman WOOD presented a similar
from the Ward of Cripplegate.—Ordered
and laid on the table.—Also a Petition
same place, calling for an Impeachment i•••
tors.—Ordered to be read and laid on l'-• table,
Mr. CURWEN presented a Petition
mouth, praying for the dismissal of Mini)
restoration of her Majesty's name, &c.
them, and wished in his heart that :
be induced to retrace their steps. It was not
jorities of that House, constituted as it was,
the sale of seats was open and acknowledr
could give satisfaction to the People,
attainment of the objects for which the .
prayed. Ordered to be read, and laid on the
Mr. SYKES presented a Petition from '
chants, Bankers, and Traders of King
deprecating the proceedings against her
and praying the restoration of her name to
turgy. The Petition was agreed to at a '
Meeting of the Inhabitants, who were convene'
public advertisement. He had intended to
length the grounds upon which he gave
to the Petition ; but, as so much of the to
House had been already taken up with
on the same subject, he did not think it
to occupy their attention for more than a
ments. He could not help drawing the n
the House to the characters of the persons by
this Petition was signed—men all of great -
ability. • It was therefore a perfect delusion
that such Petitions as these emanated
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this Petition, that the proceedings against her Majesty
sere highly unconstiuitional, and they forcibly de.'
ted the omission of her Majesty's name from
6turgy. They complained that the sacred offices
d religion were made subservient to the political
,saies of Ministers—(Ckeers J.—These were the
,ctriesents which occupied their minds, and they
validly convinced that the agitation which pre-
alied in the country would not cease until Minis-
trig should retrace their steps, restore her Majesty's
rime to the Liturzy, and place her in possession of
all her rights and ‘dignities—( Ikon hear).
the Petition was then brought up, read, and or-
dered to be printed.
A petition was presented from the Borough of
teeerly, deprecating the proceedings against her MA-
testy, and praying the restoration of her name to the
MA-
.testy, praying also the attention of the House to
the Agricultural interests.—Ordered to be printed.
The Sheriffs of London appeared at the Bar with
the City Petition.
The SPEAKER—Mr. Sheriff Waithmati, what have
fa got there?
Mr. WAITIIMAN—The Petition of the Lord Mayor,
Aldermen, and Commons of the City of London, in
Common Council assembled, upon the subject of her
'Majesty, reprobating the proceedings against her,
praying the restoration of her name to the Liturgy,
and the institution of an inquiry which might lead to
the disgrace and dismissal of those Ministers by whom
those proceedings were advised !
The SPEAK/in—You may withdraw !—(A general
bra took place on the Ministerial side of the (louse.)
Mr. Alderman WOOD rose, and moved that the
Petition be printed.—Ordered.
Sir WILLIAM GUISE presented a Petition to the
same effect, from Stroud, in Gloucestershire. Ile had
to mention one circumstance connected with this Pe-
tition, which would skew the feeling that prevailed
on the subject. A loyal Address was circulated with
great industry before the Petition was proposed, and
it received signatwes but slowly ; but as soon as this
Petition was handed about for signatures, no fewer
than 6,000 names were subsciibed in a few days!
This, and a similar Petition from Sudbury, were
ordered to be jointed.
Mr. LAM BTON presented a Petition from Dur-
ham, deprecating the proct.ediligs against her Ma-
jesty, and praying, the restoration of her name to
the Liturgy. In iising. to offer a few observations
in support of nis Petition, he feared that he should
incur the reproach of the Noble Lord opposite, who
seemed to think that the time of the House ought
Dot to be occupied in discussions upon Petitions.—
He confessed, however, that he was of a different

way of thinking,. and that, in his opinion, every re-
spectind'attention ought to be shewn to the Petitions
of the P-rople—'—(llear, hear) —ln times when so
much reproach was cast on the inadequacy of the
Representation of the People, he did not see how the
House could add to its dignity and influence, by pre-
venting Members from stating their own sentiments
and those of their Constituents—(lleac, hear).—The
Petitioners complained that one set of men arrogated
to themselves the exclusive title of the Loyal and
Constitutional class. They could not exceed the
present Petitioners in Loyal and Constitutional feel-
ings—(licar, hear, from a Member ander the Gallery).
He understood the Honourable Member to contra-
dict his statement. If he stated what was not the

fact, he would submit to be corrected by a declara•
tion from the Honourable Gentleman; but he was
not to be put down by such irregular cries--(Hear,
Lear),—nor to be prevented from expressing openly
and fi eely his opinions. The Petitioners stated, that
those exclusive loyalists accused all persons of disaf-
fection who did not coincide in the views of his Ma-
jesty's present Ministers. Now, as to the sentiments
of those loyal Gentlemen, he denied that they ex-
pressed the general feelings of the Country—(Hear,
hear).—He would put it to any individual, whether
the ebullition of feeling which had taken place, did
• not supply the clearest evidence that not nine-tenihs,
but nineteen in twenty parts of the population of the
country were engaged in active opposition, not to the
Crown, but to his Majesty's Ministers—( Cheers ).
When the Noble Lord assumed that the Lion of
England, as it was expressed, was roused in favour
of himself and his colleagues, he thought it very in-
consistent that the den of that lion should be found
iii little Corporations and Scotch Counties. He
prayed to Gou, that the indifference which Ministers
!hewed to the voice of the People, might not ulti-
mately lead to consequences which all must lament.
With these sentiments, he moved that the Petition
be brought up.
Lord CASTLEREAGH begged to assure the
lion. Gentleman who had just sat down, that if
he supposed that he (Lord Castlereagh) said any
thing, or proposed any line of conduct disrespectful
to the Petitions of the People, he had quite misun-
derstood him. Indeed, what he had said, was exactly
opi.osite to this. As to what the Honourable Gentle-
man had imputed to him, and the words which he
put in his mouth, he (Lord Castlereagh) did not
know but that he ought to have used such words,
and they might perhaps have been extremely proper
and laudable—(Hear, hear)—but the fact was, that
he did ri,lt nse them.
Mr.LANIBTON denied that he had put any words
in the mouth of the Noble Lord, which it would have
been laudable in bins to utter. la the obsetvations
which he had made, he alluded to the expressions
which the Noble Lord had used with respect to his
Honourable Fricad, the Member for Essex, at an
early period of the evening. •As to what he said of
the " Lion of En land," he did not impute those ex-
pressions to the Noble Lord. They had been used
by a Journal which was devoted to the interests of
Ministei s.—The Petition was ordered to be printed.
Mr. BENETT presented a Petition from the Nobi-
lit), Clergy, and Centry, of the County of Wilts,
Which was agreed to at a large County Meeting, at
avhich the Sheriff presided. It was his ditty to say,
that the Petition was signed only by 100 of the Free.
holders, a circumstance which was to be imputed to
the shortness of the interval which took place be-
tween the time of the Petition being agreed to and
the present moment ; othern ise, be had not the least
doubt, that it would have been signed by thousands
lithe Freeltold2Es. The prayer of the Petition was,
that the House should stop all proceedings against
her Majesty, if any were proposed, and should do
everything in their power to calm the agitation which
ousted in the country, and which would continue to
exist, until her INAjcay'o, uamr tva4 restored to the

taitttrsy-as- (Hear, hear).—He *as desired by his
constituents to support the prayer of the Petition.
He did so; not that he thought hiniself obliged to
obey their orders—( Hear, hear)—but, because his
disposition and his sentiments led him to do so. He
did not know what might be the intentions of his
Majesty's Ministers towards the Queen, but he did
think that their conduct in proroguing the Parlia-
ment was peculiarly ungracious its it affected her
Majesty—(Year, hear).— By that act the- Ministers
left her Majesty in a condition in which never was a
Queen placed before in this country—(Hear, hear)
—in a state which was more anomalous, in fact, than
the trial itself—(Hear, hear).—And after leaving her
Nlajeity in that strange situation for upwards of
eight weeks, he did think that Gentlemen had
every right to suspect that Ministers had an intention
of making some kind of use of the proceedings
which had taken place, either for the purpose of
grounding upon them some new measure, or of ap-,
plying them in directing the provision to be made
for her Majesty—(Hear, hear).— He did not know
what opinion some Gentlemen entertained of the
proofs which had been gone into ; but he, for one,
denied that anything was proved against her Majesty
—(Hear, hear).—He thought that her Majesty stood,
in the eye of the law and justice, acquitted of the
charges that bad been brought against her. But
however Gentlemen differed upon that point, all
were agreed in this, that it was high time to put a
stop to those odious proceedings altogether—(Hear).
It was high time, if not in justice to the Queen, at
least in justice to the count, y, that the House should
take the situation of the country into their consider-
ation, and endeavour, as far as in them lay, to relieve
the distresses of a loyal and suffering People—(Near).
—A more loyal People than those of Wiltshire were
not to be found in his Majesty's dominions. His en-
treated of Ministers, if they had any feeling for the
honour of the Crown, and he did not doubt that
they had—if they had any feeling for the distresses
of the People—if they iiad any regard for their own
aharakters, that they would contribute, by every
means in their power, to put a stop to those proceed-
ings which excited so much agitation throughout the
country—(Hear).—Petition ordered to be printed.
Mr. TEiaNI'SON presented a Petition to the same
effect from Great Grimsby, in the County of Lincoln.
He did nor intend to occupy the time of the House,
but for some observations of the Hon. Member for
Wiltshire. He confessed that he last night under-
stood the Noble Lord to say, that the proposition
which he was to make, respecting a provision for her
Majesty, was the only one which he intended to make
on that subject—(llear, hear ! front Lord Castle-
reugh).—lle was happy to find that he understood
the noble Lord correctly. Nose that being the case,
he had only to state his decided opinion, that Minis-
ters had abandoned their duty, by inflicting priva-
tions upon her Majesty in the first instance, and still
more so by continuing those privations in the interval
which elapsed between the prorogation and the meet-
ing of Parliament—(Hear).—lt appeared to him also
to be inconsistent with what he understood to be the
system on which Ministers acted when they omitted
her Majesty's name from the Liturgy, that they did
not now restore- it--(Hear).-=That omission took
place on the ground that certain charges were made
against her Majesty; but the ground was necessarily
removed if those charges were not substantiated—
(ffear).—Thus, therefore, Ministers were driven to
maintain an alternative, either that the charges were
substantiated, or that they were not—(Cheers).
The Petition was ordered to be printed.
Mr. HUME presented similar Petitions from the
Boroughs of Banff, Arbroath, Annan, and the In-
corporated Trades of Aberdeen, in Scotland. He
thought it necessary to state, that though Minis-
ters had Addresses from the Royal Burghs in Scot-
land, yet no one would deny, that if such a Reform
had taken place in those Burghs, as would afford the
'People an opportunity of speaking their sentiments,
Ministers would not have received one Address from
Scotland, which wculd give any countenance to their
measures.—The Petitions w ere ordered to be printed.
Mr. ESTCOURT presented a Petition to the same
effect, signed by 400 inhabitants of the Borough of
Devizes. He gave a brief summary of the heads of
the Petition, and said he had no doubt it expressed
the sentiments of the place.
Mr. R. GORDON was surprised that the Honour-
able Member who presented this Petition did not say
one word in support of it. Indeed, the probability
was, that when it came to the question, he would
oppose the prayer of it. At the same time, he was
aware that the inhabitants of Devizes had no right
to expect their Members would support any Petition
which they might wish to have presented to this
House. Those Hon. Members were, in fact, the Re
presentatives not of the people of Devizes, but of
some twelve or thirteen Aldermen who returned
them—( Hear, hear).—This was a perfect illustration
of the kind of support which the Noble Lord reckoned
upon last night, when he expressed so strong a hope
of having the confidence of the flodse and the Coun-
try. The Noble Lord, no doubt, had, and would
continue to have, the confidence of the Members for
Devizes. But what now appeared to be the feeling
of the people of Devizes?—(Loud cheers.)--What
were the sentiments of those persons who signed this
Petition ?—(llear, hear.)—Did the Noble Lord be-
lieve that he had the confidence of the Public of De
vines? He thought, in fact, that he (Mr. Gordon)
was more the Representative of the inhabitants of,
that place than either of the Honourable Members
who were returned for it—(A laugh)—for he repre-
sented a place (C:icklade) where several inhabitants
of Devises had votes. And he also accorded in their,
sentiments, for he would give his strongest support
to the prayer of this Petition—(Hear, hear).
Mr. J. PEA RSE contended for the right of the
Member to huid his own opinions, though it was his
duty, when requested, to deliver a Petition to this
House, the prayer of which he might be inclined to
oppose. He denied that the 400 Petitioners spoke
the sense of the whole town.. There were many re-
spectable persons who, he knew, did not concur in
this Petition, who were willing to sign a Petition, but
very different from this in its terms, and who were
persons of much more weight and respectability.
Sir FitANCIS Buitmar.observed, that if the
Honourable Member who had just sat down, alluded
to his Constituents, the twelve or thirteen Aldermen
of the Borough, no doubt could be entertained that
the persons who signed this Petition were not, per,
haps, generally speaking, quite equal to those worthy

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Gentlemen in oseghl—(Laugh ter). But •he agreed
with the I-lonourable Member near him, in taking
this as a very fair specimen of the species of confi-
dence which the Ministers.reekoned upsn, when they
talked of the House and the Country. Passing over,
however, those worthy Aldermen, of whom the Ho-
nourable Member appeared to be so faithful a Repre-
sentative —(A laugh)—he hoped that the House would
pay every attention to the prayer of the Petition, that
the question which so long agitated the Country
would be put an end to, and that the House' would
have time to apply its attention to other subiects
which were of infinitely greater importance—(llear).
In reference to what the Noble Lord said last night,
he agreed in the understanding which was expressed
of that passage in his speech which referred to her
Majesty. But he confessed he would be happy to
hear the Noble Lord explain himself more clearly as
to the mode of proceeding which was intended to be
adopted. He certainly understood the Noble Lord
to say, that Ministers gave up all intention of any
further proceedings against the Queen. If that was
so, undoubtedly it would prove very consolatory,
and would ise productive of great advantages to the
Country. And that being the case, he did not see
why any discussion should take place on the subject.
The corollary which followed, was one than which
nothing could be more simple and natural, namely,
that everything should be replaced in Its due position.
Alter the failure of Ministers in carrying through
their Bill, after the prosecution had broke down un-
der them, it would be a little bard that any Gentle-
man should doubt that everything should be carried
to its natural termination— (Hear, hear). Under
these circumstances, he hoped that Gentlemen would
not allow themselves to make insinuations, as if any
feeling of hostility still remained ; and he hoped that
this course would meet with the approbation of the
exclusive Loyalists of the country—(Hear, hear)—as
well as of those who thought from the beginning, that
no proceedings ought to have been instituted against
her Majesty at all. The Noble Lord seemed to him
not much disposed to enter into that subject, as if he
touched it with some feelings of regret. But he still
hoped it would he fully explained, and that the in-
dignation of the Country would not be excited again
by the adoption of a mode of proceeding which
tended neither to acquit nor to condemn--(Hear,
hear). He hoped that the Ministers were determined
to pursue a different course, one which would up-
hold the dignity of the Crown, and give tranquillity
to the Country, that no future occasions for discus-
sing this subject would arise, and that the King
would be permitted to give place to that sense of jus-
tice by which he was animated, and which was most
likely to promote his own dignity, and that of his
Family, by restoring her Majesty to all her rights.
Lord CASTLEREAGH did not wish to anticipate
the discussion which was to take place on this subject.
The Honourable Baronet seemed to suppose that the
Government bad altered some intentions which they
had conceived since his Noble Friend withdrew the
Bill in the other House. He could assure the Hon.
Baronet, that the Government bad not altered, nor
did it now give up any intention which was enter-
tained, from the withdrawing of the Bill to this mo-
ment. They then determined to propose no other
measures, and in that determination they had since
remained—( Hear, hear).
Mr. ESTCOURT denied that his Constituents were
confined, as an Honourable Member stated, to twelve
Aldermen. He was elected not by twelve, but by
six and thirty persons—(Hear, and loud laughter).—
He denied that in making their election of Members
his Constituents were influenced by any unworthy'
motives—(Laughter).—When he was sent here, he
did not conceive that he was to represent a single
Borough, but to take care of the interests of the
whole Empire—(Hear, hear).
Sir F. BURDETT explained, and at the same time
pressed the Noble Lord to say, whether any further
proceedings of any kind were in contemplation.
Lord CASTLEREAGH disclaiined the intention
of instituting any further proceedings of a hostile
character.
Mr. BROUGHAM was ready to believe that no
new proceedings were intended, in the way of trial,
at any time, since the late proceedings were stopt.
But it would appear, that all other proceedings, in-
dependent of trial, were still to go on—(Hear; hear),
as if the late trial had proceeded,to its natural termi-
nation, and punishment was inflicted as if it had ended
in conviction—( Loud cheers).
Lord CASTLEREAGH would not anticipate the
course which was intended. The Honourable and
Learned Gentleman assumed that it would be one of
punishment; but he had no grounds to lead to 'such
a conclusion.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, referring to a speech of
the Noble Lord in the last Session, contended, that
he distinctly said her Majesty's name was omitted
from the Liturgy on account of the charges made
against her. Now those charges were not persisted in,
and yet they acted as if they considered her guilty.
The Petition was then ordered to be printed.
Dr. LUSHINGTON presented a Petition to the
same effect from Ilchester. He referred to what the
Noble Lord opposite had said last Session, as to the
meeting of the House, that, even if the Bill did not
come down, the llouse should meet, to make provi-
sion for her Majesty.
Lord CASTLEREAGH assured the Honourable
and Learned Member, that he said no such thing.
Lord FOLKESTONE attested, that, at the time,
be understood the Noble Lord to have said words to
that effect. He supported the prayer of the Petition.
Dr. LUSHINGTON was bound to believe he had
misunderstood the Noble Lord at the time; but be
hoped the Noble Lord would use language which was
perfectly clear, and not liable to be misinterpreted.
The Petition was ordered to be printed.
Sir I'. ACKLAND presented a Petition to the same
effect from Axminster, in Devonshire.
Ordered to be printed.
Sir T. ACKLAND presented a Petition from Col-
lumpton, similar to those presented with respect to
her Majesty.—Laid on the table. -
Mr. Alderman HEYGATE presented a Petition,
of similar import, from Sudbury. He stated, that it'
was respectful in its language and sentiments, re-
spectful to Parliament, and the Sovereign. This was
an occasion when every man, who wished well to
the Constitution, should speal: out. He declared his
entire disapprobation of the late measures against
the Queen..—but at the same time, was not prepared
to agree with ihe Petitioners that her Majesty dc.

served to he restored to all her rights and dignidei
of Queen, and he heard, with pleasure, the: intiins;
tion that the qtr.:Won would be laid for evrr ih Obli-
vion. Nor was it the question of her guilt or inn(); •
cence that he alluded 'to in this cloclahition, so intact'
as the line of political conduct she thought proper tb
pursue, in contaidictitin to the advice of her legal
advisers—(Heat). On he arrival in this country'
she announced, very properly, that .she would not
mix up her just cause with any political opinion.
But this declaration was soon after fonowed by a let-
ter to the King, which contained sentiments that
would be improper as addressed to a pri7ate Gentle•
man, but to a Sovereign would, if written by any other
person, justly call down the punishment of the law !
This was succeeded by a series of attaets, in Answers
to Addresses, on both Houses of Pa'7liament, and on
the King, holding out, as an encouragement to cer-
tain classes in this country, that :f the Bill passed
the two Houses, it might be a question how far thr
People might be called upon to acquie.xe in it ? Irt
addition to this, direct encouragemeet was held out
Ito the military, paid by this House, to interfere with
the administration of justice—(Cheers).—lle coact
not agree with the opinion, that these things should
be looked over, although he was very desirous of
taking into account many circumstances of extenu-
ation. Had she, in a moment of indignation, given
vent to her feelings in any severe reflections upon
the authorities of the country, it might be forgotten;
bilt when these reflections were repeated five hun-
dred times, it carried too much the appearance of
design to allow the supposition that such sentiments
were not adopted until after mature deliberation--
Wen:l.—ff lie was tight in making these imputations
on her Majesty, he thought it would be a matter of
some consideration with the House how far they
ought to agree to any measure which might have
the appearance of sanctioning the promulgation of
such sentiments. He thought the moment was ar-
rived when this anxious question should be buried in
oblivion—when the Parliament should have an op-
portunity of giving its undivided attention to the
legitimate concerns of the country—and when we
would cease to become the ridicule of foreign nations,
by the degree of importance we gave to matters
which did not merit it.

Mr. HUME challenged the Honourable Alderman
to point out what passage in 11,,r Majesty's letter to
the King he alluded to, as the foundation of the
charge which he brought against her. It was un-
manly and unjust to the last degree, to raise charges
against a person who had not the opportunity of im-
mediate defence, of grave offences and not to give
anything in the shape of a reason for such charges—
(Hear). He was as much dispo ,ed as any man to
Tespect the institutions of the country, and he de-
clared that there was not a sentiment in that letter
which was inconsistent with his own—(Loud cheers
from the Treasury Benches). He expected nothing
else in using this expression than cheers from those
who approved of the unmanly persecution of a des•
sorted woman !—(lfear, hear). He did not think, that
after Ministers had trampled upon her, at the mo-
ment that she was in the dust—the victim of the
meanest arts of persecution—he did not think there
was a man dastardly enough to wish to press upon
her further !—(Hear, hear). no worthy Alderman
(Heygate) admitted that the Queen was wronged—
he deprecated the treatment of her by Ministers, and
yet he would wish to punish her by keeping her
name out of the Liturgy. The Honourable Gentle-
man dwelt upon the situation of her Majesty, and
recapitulated the te:.iei of indignities offered to her
Majesty by the Ministers.
Mr. Alderman HEYGATE disclaimed any other
wish in the observations he had used; than to state
the reasons why he differed from the opinions stated
in the Petition of his constituents. This open and can-
did conduct, he hoped, would not be considered as
unmanly nor did it savour much of the hole and
corner system. In vindication of himself, for having
charged her Majesty with promulgatng very perni-
cious political sentiments, he, after declaring his want
of sufficient recollection to state any particular pas-
sage in the Queen's letter, with the exception of this-
-1" Your Court is a scene of low debauchery”—cited
passages from divers of her answers to Addresses
as follow :
" This Bill, if persevered in, will undoubtedly lead to a civil
war"--(Cheersfront the Opposition).
" There are times when it ought to be understood that the
interests of the Army are not distinct from those of the rest of
the People"--(Clicersfrons the Opposition).
" When the Sovereign on the Throne is the slave of
and remarkable only for his
In another answer, the Government
dared to be " an insolent domination."
" I will not, except by actual force, submit to any sentence
not pronounced by a Court of Justice."—(Cheers front the Op-
position).
" If the Bill of Pains and Penalties Fss the two Houses of
Parliament, perhaps it may be proposed to the people how far
it ought to be obeyed."—(Chocrsfrvin the Opposition).
To the Artizans.—" It is owing to the hard-heartedness of the
Oppressor that the labourer, who sweats in daily toil, should re-
tire to his home at night without the benefit of his industry."
Such were a few of the many passages he could
cite to justify his censures. With respect to his opi-
nion of the Queen's letter, he knew it was sanctioned
by the declaration of a distinguished Peer in the
other House, to whom he could not regularly allude.
If lie were convinced that there was nothing disre-
spectful to Parliament or the King in her Majesty's
Answers, he would willingly vote for the restitution
of her name to the Liturgy.
Mr.LOCKHART deprecated any attempt to with.
hold from her Majesty any part of her rights and
dignities, and at the same time to give her a large
pecuniary allowance. Such a line of treatment, be-
sides its incongruity, might lead as a matter of ne-
cessity to a series of consequences—a tendency to
Which, when manifested by the published sentiments
of her Majesty, became a great subject of rebuke.—
For if her Majesty were denied the company of those,
who with the operation of her own good sense would
be her security and the security
her hands, wo
rityoftheStatuld eshe
with large pecuniary means in
be-
come the object of the designs of those in a more
extensive way than hitherto—whose principles she
too foolishly abetted.
" Lord NUGENT animadverted, in severe term!,
on the worthy Alderman (Heygatc), who, he said,
had had the fortitude to bring forward a charge of
the most heinous nature against her Majesty, without
a single document, or a single word, in iris
tecullec-
tion, to warrant this accusation—(Hear, hear).—lle
(Lord Nugent) disclaimed any intention of defending
the answers given in the name of the Queen to Ad-

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