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London, England, 1829-05-22 00:00:00

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.. in Chancery. There were
chi jurisdiction of the Mower of the Rolls did net
• mired, and frosts *roe the new Judge was tel be
eacluded.. It was alp necessary to render definite
, and uniform the practice of the Rolls Court, and
the other departments of the Court of Chancery in
some respects. It was doubtful whether the Rolls Court
could hear pleas and demerters, and it was also ques-
tioned *oilier it could heir' any..motions which bad•
not been Specially, ieferred to its consideration by the
' Lord Chancellor. it was, therefore, necessary to
' the Maser of the ROM the pima hich it wasdoubted;
whether be possessed it oresent. The relent. Mester
of the Rolls had -been spoke° of personally, and he"
should say of him, that he bad beard a greeter number
°realises in A giveniiine*an an y Judge who had ever
peelided it the Rolle, and that be was sure, be bad
come into office one of the main pillars of the Court of
Chanceig. He (the Lord Chancellor) bad not intro.,
diicedinto the Bill any provision for the Master of the
Ittilla fitting in the morning; /but. in Ineetioniog the
matter to that Learned person, he bad immediately ac.
• 'quieoed in it. as far as. himself was concerned; but.
ihe difficulty which had pressed most of all upon his
(the Lord Chancellor's) mind in the consideration of the
. 'subject was what had been stated Ivy*. Noble and.
:Learned Earl, that the introductioa of another Judge'
, *mold increase the number of decrees, and therefore
the number of appeals. But as the Court was at pre.
lent constituted, the Chancellor bad. not the power to
hear the appeals, as the ether balalaika ,of the Court
poured in upon him so fast that it was impossible for,
him to find time to beer the fiPpeals. Now, the
number of appeals had, upon an average, exceeded,
foal in a year' from the Master of the Rolls
and their Lordships, by voting for the preposition
now• upon the table, would enable the Lord Chan.
cellos; to give all his time to the hearing of appeals.--
But he asked the Noble and Learned Lord whether, if
there were sixty appeals in a year. the Lord Mato:elks,
if he bad time to attend to them. could not dispose of
them with sufficient rapidity? But there were other
circumstances, such as incidental motions, upon which.
thrives discursions might arises but, if time were Fives
to deiide„ this evil might also. be materially diminished.
He still entertained the opinion that this measure would
be of vast advantage in this respect, bet. as it formed no
part of the Bill, he would not now allude to it. His;
Noble and Learned Friend had only vary recently read
. the report Of the Commissioners of loquiry relative to
common law ; but he must have perceived that thry
• recommended the separation of the equity juifsdictios.
from the common law in the Court of Exchequer. They
• bad distinctly said that they apprehended great advan-
tages would result from Such separation, and by giving
to the three Courts ihe,aanie advatitagee; and they also
state that the equitable jarisiliction might not to cos
tonne with that Court. They adverted.to the evidence-
they had received in supper' of that
.proposition._ He
would not, however, detail that evidence to their Dird-
ships, but would merely vote. that of. air John
Richardson. whose loss, through illness, must be:greatly
deplored. He had said, that, in order to unite theCeurt
an efficient Court of °Eqeity, it should' be separated
from that of Common Law, and a jadgee should be'
provided who should devote himself entirely io that
branch of the judicature. The Orineiplei then laid down
wars, that the equity and a:minion law jurisdiction sh'ould
be separated. •He bed listened of the•objectiois of his
Noble and Learned Friend, and such was the conclu-
sion to which he had come. He did siotirein to touch
upon the revenue jurisdiction of theCourtofExitieqoer,
because he was not willing now to enter upon that branch
of the subject —net that dieVoireransent did not intim to'
do so,f or that jorisdictiodhad been found morels* cum
braes and inconvenient. and it 'was a question whether
the whole of that department would not be.remodelled.
One person who resided in the lest riding of 'York re-
ceiied no lee than moat. a' year, but performed his
dirties by a deputy, to Whole he gave SOUI. a Year. • It
was very seldom that review glees torolvedroseneity
points of importance, end when they did the Chief Be,
lon might easily decide than. But biaprOpoeition Wits
this, sad only this at the mesentutoyiest, that it was abe
Windy necessary that another judge should be sp.
pointed to the Court of Cheacery, kesu the only plus by:
which it was possible to' curry into *Sect the resole-.
sneudition of the Comisireioners. Y if Voirto lords
would for A moment reflect urns theddaya than new
eerily took 'placeleollie:Ceust•of. Chatfeety-40 the
'ruin that ensued toss Soapy hiMilies is opesequenctof
such delaysse'filt`' gigged that 'Noble Lewd. WOW
feet satisfied to omit no means et carrying • any iii-
provemeet into effect, and would, under the citesto.
statics'. agree to the third reading of the .
The Earl of ELDON explained. it was, he thought,'
* wart of courtesy on the part of the Mauer of tit
R;4l, not to inform hips of the, jointed Orders.
- The .LORD CHANCELLOR explained. The glas.,
ter of the Rolla had armed tbreseh the Noble Baron
rhos he should have no objection to sit in the morning..
He.(die Lord Chancellor) had had bo tonnnunication
with him: oo thestiblrct. ,• ,
-Lord HOLLAND was desirous to eity a few words
on this subject, and lie could on; but eepreer his regret
that the • Neale and .Learned Lord (Eldon).-bad post-
poned hit'Objections* to the Bill until shit third reading ;
and, if_ e Wird fiolleod) did not state his .rriewsbefore,
it eras because he did not wish to throW any.difficulte
. in *the way of e great wock.whieb sgtherottur and credit
Wage:Noble aid Learned Lord, tied ..which wouid.s
trorted,.is the end materially beseit-thai. public. But if
tile:AM:paged the House, all opporttiolty of stating
.olajeitiotse. would be taken away.; ;therefore could
notivoid now engreging his doubts no to the nature
sod goilessey of this Bill. The Noble aid Learned Lord
hidsteted it to betb•say simple Bill; but it was on
• this'aist Oegottatikat be (Lord Na)' objected to it, be-
teb4ifie it the re called upon to do that obich
* wai4ot :the wis to do which was mow roam
to dos that which was is it lfincomplete. Not that be
would witlitioldBsooo4 or .10.00 A or . eves 20.0004 a-
yeae. ;if the. ewndiitsrB of such a ism were zecoseary.
Perhaps it belliOedient to ottete a new. Jac's*,
astii A new, oust, in cothequence of the reforms the
' Noble and Leataed turd marabout to introdOce into
tititoort of ghat cery; bet. what lie Laos .Holland)
complained of .welahls.....that Ilse. Noble and Learned
Lord had -belt** the wrong end, and ha could not see
71:1711=:;.` He was egaost;ledge 1491-14 la ve
eai .ll'
een
tail he &pew what the itttep4o4 „mower* were. He
had heard issue* to make. bite heel that reforest in.
the Court Of Chnorory. were 'Necessary, bat not a
weed to snake bias imegive that it egg *st neceasary
to siii),P)Ot ainci lodfle• eseireet in Vet latelbee.
. the present Meow of 4heltogeis bed •
betel beeo.rerneived, *cause it permed :go lortied
Judge was hienielf liatisfied with the proposed ahet ,

the ease otherwise, he should bare
on* 4 spot birdshlp. as' Sigerdat
itsilppppos-iirdfreitioal. lie4.eed
141.50. Ass eitythis BiU thostig
for n fspriaps, *ens ble the SON
.aed Lord to bring the question before Mi
Houteln a MOM tangible shape, and to .state the
nattikend Altant Of.l6lL.COMMllipiated improvements
in the Coon of Chancery; and he should therefore
move that the Bill be read a third din this day-fort-
night.

1.-iiid IakDESDALB said be hid been- acquainted
with the Court of Chancery during 4 period of three
score years, and of course bad bad.somensperisect in
-seference to it, and upon this subject his inion was,
o
that it would be betterto make the equity .jurisdiction
ofike Court.of Escbequer more effective than to ap-
point a new. Equity judge. In matters of 'revenue it
would not be found easy to separate the equityirom
the legal jurisdiction; and therefore theprincipal Judge
in the Court of Exchequerought to be acquainted with
Cproceedings in Chancery. Ile wished the Noble end
acrene:d Lord would, for the present, withdrew his Bill'
for the purpose of giving it further cootideration.
Lord TENTEkDEN could have wished that the
principle of this Bill had been referred to the Judges of
the Court of Excltequer for their opinion, because they
were well suited to form an opinion upon it. The Com-
missioners of Inquiry hed—certninly recommended a
separate jurisdiction in reference to that Court. bat be,
did not find that they recommended its abolition. He
had, however, no objection to the appointment of an
additional Jude to the Court of Equity, and thought.
an important point would be gained by.giving the. Lord
Chancellor greater time for the discharge of his drains:
The LORD CHANCELLOR dun put the question an tail
asesodwoet. whisk was negatived. -1
The Noble wed Leaned Lord then put ttit1:1011 nu tie
thi ad-
The
gisal inotesk whisk wee carried without a di
The MIR was s' real a third doe and pawed. •,,
MS IhriPlitot LONDONDERRYpeeeented i Peddle hes ,
ew* seineetimi withwiththe coal wads against the London
al* ..
liiii.=Thi Heise then adjourned.

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HOUSE OF COMMONS.
-Mr. 1101111011- SE wod that the Sc. Juan's Vestry Bill be
atm tea a tkkd duos.
Mr. PONSONBY lowed. u as siosendastot, that the
read • third dusodiat day dose months.
Sir S. 1110.RI•AND seconded the amendsw.
• Mr. DRNISON suppoeted the Bill. He was quite surprised
at the pppooldue wirested to it, as is the Committee the oak
video noised spittle k bad bees that or the His. Dame, Mood(

••a select mestrylme.
dr. BSTCOUBT objected to the manlillf IM whisk the an
had been berried ea. Be was sot of 'Odes, that the priposed-1
*maths would glee the pariah any greater enmity than ft at
premst *eyed. Hie peat objection to the BIS was, lievriver,,
that it had hem he l 4 le "richest maids, foe the tiref the
Cestaktee at Select Vestries; which was seer *deg. Uwe was
ambles radii to requiirit all the baste observable in the pre.
media& and be fell .ceseiseed that the delay disked would be
ideentagems. losing it Warless, to all perdue. • '
Ser. It. WILSON supported the-Bill There was se pfttnt
whatever for sow eppeekig the BW whkis bad be.. shames owed,
measly approved of is the Clesentittee. He cesteeded that dew
was se resod fee the impindea that the seems had he ti ben;
tied at, sad would also oestend that* the abeam* wee deekehle.
oleteheold. therefore. mite fee its beimitow read a third dram
Mr. HOBHOUSE mild. If se limp was to take passe is
the system, bow was the perish to be seemed from an ahem whig,
eyes these who sew spieled dig NI @Righted to have eldsCeici"
A public eseetiag bed beet held, at whisk Lewd Dethea end two
or threember Poem as well as several Mseaben el the Reese of
had attended, bet Ness of these wile sew applied the
Bill. Tithe/ meeting. and by Oat steeds& aNM was draws up
and introdineil into the Rouse of Commose, and referred to •
Callalittat.llllll, eftwithetandleg the advice el Mr. N. C.aleitrt
that sense arrengeirest should tabs plate, the Vestrymen refused
te meet; the euppecters,of the , Bill with that view, and yet they '
mew mate forward to appose k. Would the Reese of Comma
tolerate the perpetual government of the parish of St. James by
thirrj.twe entrees, the majorite of whets, who had the left-
kg of the accesats fee the support of the peer, were thitteelves
Overseers of the Poor? .Many others, among whom were Lords
Hardwklie and Sprear, sever atteeded at all the of
amounts, aliment* to Mem* per amens. The Alferestee
mein the friends sad the opponents of the BM was this, that the
teener defrayed the ammo: et the proceeding they kd curled
ea
est el their own pockets, while the lair charged to the as
must of the parish every dialing eapeaded on their oppeeitiso.
The Hon. Member concluded by regretting the Aimee, through
severe ledispotides, of Ms Hoe. Colleague (Sir F. Barden), whit.
however, he was eeritorierd to state, folly ceacurred is..pport of,
-the Bill; indeed, bed its semen deeply at bean.
Sick. ILNATCH BULL ,opposed the Bill, thinklig as be did
that it would be 'infinitely better to ;wait the Report of the venni
Committee on Select Vestries before way partial measure should
be istrediteeti. •

4:1131YSISI wee is favour of the BM es It et proem-weed, el.
be confessed that, had be bees pretest et the mead pad.:
ime, he would lust opposed It, but the &Widow mode la [Clads
Coesaiittet WIT rearelbtdldas to lt.

The Howe age &rifled, vries there wore—
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' Mr. VrODEHOUSR said he had 'wade a prepesideo to Ow
Imminent width he wished te swam en that snidest. He pra-
, that these Ceinstivrietwt sof Sadao adessed by Howe cameo(
Id awes those el the Camillus, of Idahoan, •todiseass the
at issue, and report their opinion to. the Howe. , .
',be CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said thaithe'
was net a cooveoleat lime fee the reasidentieg of the
whew*, Rube Bused wee deprived V etre sifts mot;
aad sqili,a °leers. Hoiorrer, geosralty, he was , not .dielso.
ti OF proposal of she Hos. Cisotientaa, on the WOdervisa,74l
Illy this this report dr the. primes prapesed to come trawler
wet be espeetirdser bind the Geeerearwit.
Sir. EL AN &T, presented a .Parides Wes Weston, lierluili4
MSa wore ogaskassveipwrit of liar Roes.
... , Bill tee regularly/4ft Aleisissof Crannies was read alreei
Row Te be rad.. wooed. Wes es illisity.
lir. HU MK mond faillssins r
glt Oise armed le the Ireliri
ebstied•Cetirts.
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11111i.81111111A411111ea datum •
011 the leather or the SOLICITOR GENERA Lydre Order of.
the 'Day for resuming the adjourned debate oo the 31101 Ile or
Malaga now writ 'lot the county of Ckre was read.
TM SPEAKER'hasing put the soistiou,-
The SOLICITOR GRNERAIL said. that it leek bo m tbo
revokable of rho Hon.* that on a .fortner smoke. orhensother
wbjectswere disesised, it was-suggested by •0011 Itiegu./44miloirs
when judgment on these martetikee entitled to math oho**.
that the station ihOoldesotain a riterebiltenke proikluies ditls
reeetatitattne regulating the franthkelirl alut Irlshiraiholdern-
Conantring with the rininableiess if iltateogpatlON he
krve est osisbittow his former ntotlen, yotilishrettetofer it a attire
that the Awake: ritiMui his warned fir a hew writ.tohjeet th ttii
pmvisiorts vi the hoist shake an the stibjeet ifVie 'Mabee.
holders. •
_ Mr. RICE, in -iising so =me en ,emendesent, 00..
treated the indulgence c.f the Haw.. ,l-fewas.surathat,
.it appeared .to a British House of Comisesistbat the
undertook
•present subject in the discharge of his
duty, they would extend to him itheir.favourelde Walk
pence. Rut, even in doing that, be shuold.noterespees
on the time and attention of the House. Before he Avoid
go iwo the question he wished to state, that the pro-
duction .of his proposition wesquire unconnected
.with:
skirranannell. The .suggestion did sot proceed Limns
filr..O'Corinell or front any ulster; .he did noteven know.
Mr. 4 opionion as the proposal; sot was his
motion connected with grasp 'feeling;. indeed, late
events, even in *elation to this subject, showed that the
asessurelcoctedisl net .from posy. The proposition
was exclusively his own. The ntotien had sot pro-
ceeded from forty. itor was it ;intended et an attach en
pan y. He was set shostile he theovernment ; iie eased
under .no coowideration but with a sefesence so frisk
hue:est:Gaud Irish tranquillity, And with a view to ten,
tier complete die ftWriiilollll of the late iseneficial Re.
lief eia. Het would sot say that Mr. O'Connell baying
refined to Ulm tficooth laciaelisbis to: It -sad wow
in Oa. aPhiS; hot !men *Ugh .tbeAiessta,
,iodiciallio may Sc. of opinioit. dig O'Coiot

1"11,1"1111.11111.16141114.001"101 that ; bat, WWII I
cello, Court, subject to' the centrotillins power 4-0,4 thsposhoe tan
Lop! Chancellor. Tile remainder of the $lll,/11thatiiiiheot .istd
simple in any Ojai could he. The new Jodi* wee Homandi is no
to be able to hear all Ms.% Ares, demorrcp, alid-00 lie composed
motiont-h:that is to say, every thing growing nut of and tamed Lon
a suit i 0 Chancery. There were woe cases so which Houle la a more