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the osth was entirely omitted? Was this done ad-
visedly ? He feared it was, and that it arose from as
indisposition to give them the securities they were,
fairly entitled to requite. Another remarkable ch..
cumstance was, that connected with that part of
the oath of 1793, which bound the Catholics,
when in possession of office, not to employ the in-1
Hume they thus obtained to disturb or weaken the
Protestant Church of Ireland. Presently afterwards a
commentary upon this oath appeared, explaining its
meaning CO be, that t'iey were not both to disturb and
weaken-, or rather not disthrb in order to weaken, and
stating that in any other sense the oath was one which
could hot be admitted. Taking the hint probably frees
this commentary, in the Bill of 1825, and he particu-
larly begged the attention of the Muse to the circum-
stances 'the Word .. weaken" was omittedt Having
called
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td theseetz emarkable
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there Were many others of a very striking character.
Was there any body who -could consider this an ade-
quate recurityfor the constitution? (Hear.) What seems
rity did that Biq of 1825 contain upon the important
subject of Foreign Correspondence ?—merely this, that
it should all pas; through the hands of the Catholic'
Bishops, It would perhaps be said that they were
not now discussing that Bill, he begged here that
his argument might not be misunderstood. He referred
to that Bill solely as a criterion of the state of mind
of the Catholics of Ireland. That Bill had sodergene
ample consideration and discussion previous to being
brought before the Howe. It was properly considered
*ache ultimatum of the Catholics, and it must be plainly
understood as conveying on their part a refusal of any
farther securities. What they demanded was simple
repeal, unmodified concession. And with proud de,,
fiance they 1./fused to make any concessions, to given/Ay
securities for the safety of the Protestent.Churcb. The
Hon. Member for the City of Dublin, the othaeprpsalit
presented a Petition, and to that Petition he
He would ask, if it demanded anything but uisqaalifed
and unconditional emancipation? 'this was a booms
however, that the great Constellation of genius to
which they had been so triumphantly referred, had
never contemplated, and would never have granted,-
Then be would ask, how could those authorities, andl
high and valuable authorities he admitted they were, be
used against him? He was as ready as any one of those
eminent individuals to support concession upon the
same principles as theirs. He meant concessions
combined with ample and satisfactory securities. He
knew that an argument would here be urged against
hist, founded upon the conscientious feelings of dew
Rowan Catholics. It would be said that they caddie*
without violating their religion,grant the Veto, or agree
to the principles of the Bill of 1813, because they were
contradictory to the principles of the Catholic religion.
But he woo answer this argument by reminding the,
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House, that !though some of the Irish Catholic'
Bishops had o 'ected to those securities, they had ob•
tained the sanc ion of the highest authorities of the
itennibh Chord, including that of the Pope himself.
Ha bad she d•cuasents now within his reach to prove
these fiets,'but it was unkeetresary) as they were too no-1
'Widen to be disputed. The Right Hanottrable Gentle-
man Isere referred to she state of the Catholics in foreirs
causerie* of which the Gortertsulents were not Catholic.
The Catholic Bishops of Silesia were appointed by the
King of Prussia; those of Etude were appointed by die
Emperor—awl both in Russia and Prussia all corres-
pondence with the Court of Rome was under the super.
intendence of Protestants—.(Hear, hear). Then let
him not be told that it was Incompatible 'with the Ca.
tholic religion to grant the securities formerly antici-
pated. Me object in refusing them was to uphold
that clerical denomination which had been described
by his Right Hon. Friend. the Attorney General for
Ireland, in terms much stronger than any he could em-'I
ploy. if an appeal was to be made to authority, be
might appeal to the authority of all the great men who
had been se frequently alluded to, and whose conduct
he was attempting to follow at an humble distance—
(Hear. hear). He would now ask if there was any
thing in the present state of Europe to render the same
securities less necessary now than in 1813? At that
period the Papal authority was dead, and it was the,
if ever, that securities might have been dispensed with.
Since that time, they had seen the glory and the pbwer
of the Papal See renewed. All over Europe, this power
was stirring with great activity, everything was in •
state of excitement ; and what was most rerberkabie
was, that while in this country, those who were pecu-
liarly loud in their professions of liberal sentiment% were
striving to promote the Papal power, all the (Heeds of
liberality on the Continent were dreading the effects of
its efforts, of its vigorous effuses. and exciting thew.
selves to resist its persevering encroachments. He asked
the House to recollect the scenes in the South of
France, since the year 1814, and to reflect upon the re•
vied of the Order of the Jesuits, wbo'were at this time
forcing themselves into every country. He recollected:to
early youth, reading a popular wort, die history-of this
Order, and his astonishment had been excited, this site
an institution could ever have been tolerated by any Go.
vernment. Little did be think that they should ever
see that order revive, obtain the highest sanctions, and
be permitted to renew its most extensive and amibitious
projects. The revival of the order was in itself a
sufficient reason why the securities thought necessary is
1813 should not be deemed more imperiously necessary
at the present time. He knew that although ostensibly
employed in education in France, they were actively
entahcaqiCtuaggisiedretinsiniondfstbruadlim4trel aollipavrtaFel.dedgrTiesaeinathqtpimgounisruhtionadinalle.the
re-established in Italy and Spain. He usedthese famle
not because be apprehended the establishment of these
institutions in Ireland, but because they 'hewed that
in no part of Europe at least the Catholic religion was
not changed. Then in NIS and 1814 Ireland was
tranquil; now that country was in a state of violent ez-
citement, apparently subject to the dominion of that
mischievous body, the Catholic Association, which mi.
mtatsedndiedt at
th theseefreownicliessiOnaf a,bedanedjay whet ofethaLhauticalla Late.;
itlinsothringth,:tbr
huandeoaongtf.this body Ireland a giant sap-
tradsohelontagtelsits oftheytheconeresdlituti°the:
selves to mild applications, their prayers had beau din.
regarded ; but they, had changed their tone. and had
been raised in consequence to the pinnacle of hope ; and
then exultingly asked if gentletess would have done