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London, England, 1819-01-22 00:00:00

CHAIRMAN Or THE comburrm.

After some handsome compliments to him, the Earl of List:s-
toot nett moved, that the Earl of Shafte.hury :lonia be re-ap-
pointed as Chairman of their Lordships' Committees.
The LORD CHANCELLOR bore his testimony re the AIL
lity and impartiali.y with which the Noble Earl Shaftesbury had
discharged his high office ; and said he had•o:ily to regret that
the present motion should lint have been submitted iv a fuller
House, wh,cli, he was satisfied, would have unanimously con-
curred, not mere!). in the motion, but also in their thanks.
The Motion was then put, and carried nem. CTai.
The Earl of iIIArrEsBURY returned thanks.
The Earl of Livrsroot. obtained leave to bring In a Bill fur
the better regulation of Select Vestries.

Adjourned, at half-past seven o'clock, till Monday.

HOT -SF. OF COMMONS.

Mam• new Meint:ers, took the mual (Natlß and their sears.
The General Orders at the commencement of a Sew Parlia-
ment were afterwards read and rece:ved.

The PAU ricpc sting Clandestine Outlawry w•as read pre prom
a first ..:nd stror..: tirr.e.

I.);lrt'cularl.ls %rue appnir.tcd for tbc .using of certain Corn-
especi..lly that concerning the PriviLges of the House.

The S9LAKER, on his return from the House of
Lords, whither the Right Honourable Gentleman
and the House of Commons had been summoned by
a Message through the medium of tke Black Rod,
intimated from the Chair, that he and such Members
as were present at the time, had repaire.! to the House
of Peers, where they witnessed the Opening of the
New Parliament by Commision, and heard the
Royal Speech. of v Inch, to prevent mistakes, he had
procured a copy. Mr. Speaker then read it distinctly
to the llonsc.—( For which see our Report lf the pro-
ceetelings in the Lords)
Mr. BROWNLOW rose. He said that he should
present himself to their notice on this occasion for
the purpose of moving the Address of Thanks. He
commenced by saying, that he should stand before
the House under circumstances of peculiar diffidence
and embarrassment, did he not most sanguinely
hope, that however inadequate his efforts might
prove to engage the attention of the House, the same
unanimous sentiments may be found to pervade his
Majesty's Commons—(Hear, hear)—those of pride
and satisfaction in their country's calm and peaceful
joy, and of their becoming duty and attachment to
that presiding wisdom and Royal Authority, from
whence had proceeded the gracious Speech they had
now heard delivered to them by the Lords Commis-
sioners—so expressive of his Royal Highness's pater-
nal regard for the welfare and happiness of his people.
With regard to the melancholy events with which
the Speech had commenced, there can be but one
opinion—for who that is an admirer of the virtues
and excellencies of human nature, but must sympa-
thize in the continued indisposition of our revered
Monarch ?—(Hear, hear)—While, at the same time,
Mr. Brownlow trusted the House would not be
merelr guided by form, irresistibly worked on by
feelings of affectionate regret, ito condole with his
Royal Highness on the severe loss he has sustained
the death of her late Majessy. Surily if weight can
attach to the descending influence of Royalty on the

'Morals and, happiness of Society, in the Queen whose
/Ms we deplore has disappeared an invaluable exam-
lie of strict and unerring decorum ! In love and
slintbal honour, joined to her Royal Consort for a
long course of years, his joy and solace, and the
faithful guardian of his person ; promoting the inte-
rests of strict morality and religion, and, in the true
spirit of a Christian, possessed of an active but se-
cret principle of benevolence, that always led her to
the alleviation of sorrow, denying to misery nothing
but her uame—(Hear, hear).—It is, however, grati-
fying for them to consider, and may it engage to his
Royal Highness, in a still increased degree, the
hearts and affections of all his subjects' that the close
of a life so honourably passed, was soothed by his
most anxious and unremitting attention ;—(Hear,
hear)—and this strict observance of filial duty must,
in another sense, be most satisfactory to Parliament,
as it affords the best pledge that every measure suit-
able to the dignity and consequence of the object,
and consistent with economy, will be adopted, for
the care and maintenance of the person of his Royal

Highness's Father—ls(fear, hear).—Turning away
from. these distressing events, abundant sources of
congratulation may be found, both in our Foreign
Connexions, as lately confirmed abroad, and the in-
ternal prosperity of our own country. And, first,
with regard to the Congress whose deliberations have
led to the evacuation of the French territory. If that'
august Assembly had taken place for the purposes
of individual interest or ambition, or for any other
'end than the promotion of the general peace, he
would have predicted to such a confederacy—dis-
union and discomfiture. Bnt what has been the ob-
ject of this happy concord of nations, at which his
Majesty's Ministers bore so distinguished a part, may
be seen by the Papers ordered to be laid before the
House. The most striking result of this mighty as-
semblage has been, a serious investigation of the
policy of the measure—to take the earliest opportu•
nity of restoring to a great and powerful people that
weight is the scale of nations, of which they had, fur
their own and for the general safety of Europe, been
for some time deptived; and which sad necessity,
as the consequence of revolutionary excess, had sub-
verted the obnoxious piinciples, by so happily re-
placing on the Throne one of the natural race of
their Kings. Thus France, by the most honourable
and scrupulous adherence to her engagements, and
by the success that has hitherto attended the efforts
of his most Christian Majesty towards the consolida-
tion of his Government, has rendered precautionary
measures no longer necessary on the part of the Al-
lied Powers. France therefore now rests once more
on its own means for support. To our -own shores
have been given back our distinguished heroes!—
(Hear, hear)—equally moderate and dignified in the
trying hour of fortune, as irresistible in dan—
(Hear, hear, hear)—lt was not for him (Mr. Brown-
low) to attempt to enter into the various political ar-
rangements of these Conferences; but so strongly
did they display all the characteristics of peace, and
'so fully did they evince the spirit of the Allied
Powers to establish and preserve such relations among
themselves, as might tend to the harmony of the ci-
vilized world, and so far advance the march of Na-
tional Liberty, as cannot but greatly gratify his Royal
Highness, that the result of his measures in this quar-
ter of the globe, will meet with the cordial appro.,
bation of his Majesty's faithful Commons--(Hear)--
Mr. Brownlow then called ti.eir attention to the suc-
cess of Majesty's Arms in the East Indies. To all,
who took into their consideration the wealth and im-
portance of our undisturbed possessions in the East—
to al! who consider the great intricacy and compre-
hensive nature of its affairs—it must be a source of
peculiar congratulation to be assured, that our ope-
rations in that quarter of the globe have been as de-
cisive as they were well matured and quickly exe-
cuted. The total suppression of the Pindarties, and
of the restless intrigues of their perfidious supporters,
the Mahratta Powers, are the happy results of one
short campaign. But such events we may always
anticipate, with justice warring on our side. To the
character of the British troops employed, and to the
good conduct and wise administration of the able ;
governor-General, the most unequivocal testimony
has been borne, at the close, and on the arena, of the
campaign ; although at the date of the document to
which he alluded there might have existed some pro-
tracted contest, subsequent intelligence announces
the total cessation of those hostilities that had been
forced on us by constant predatory attacks on our
adjacent dominions. And under this auspicious ad-
ministration of affairs, Bajce Row, of a restless and
intriguing spirit, disturbing the general tranquillity,
has paid the penalty of his unprovoked aggressions,
and is the prisoner of war of his Royal Highness's
Governor in India. From East to West a kind Pao-
VIDENCE seems to favour the efforts of his Majesty's
Ministers for the good and prosperity of these realms.
The result of.his Royal Highness's negociating with
the United States, is equally favourable with the
success of his Army. By previous Treaty, the Com-
mercial Convention between this Country and the
United States would expire in the course of a few
months ; but there was considerable pleasure in as-
certaining, that the same arrangements which had
already proved so beneficial to the wealth and in-
dustry of this country had been renewed; and that
those regulations are viewed with the greatest satis-
faction, and promise permanent duration ; for we
have acted on this liberal policy, that, ht contribu-
ting to the union and prosperity of America, we
but increase our own commerce, and open new re-
sources of wealth to the tradin and manufacturing
interests of this kingdom—(Hear, hear, hear.)—But
there was no occasion to wander so far and so long
from home in search of the flattering picture of na-
tional prosperity ; for he believed every man who
now honoured him with his attention would allow,
that never was the measure of joy more full, nor
peace better confirmed, than that now experienced
through every part of the United Kingdoms. There
never was a period at which all branches of the dif-
ferent manufactures of the country were more uni-
versally employed, or received a fuller or more com-
fortable remuneration for their labour. A revived
and enterprising spirit exists in all our sea-port
towns, and national credit never stood higher than
under the care of those to whom the present charge
is entrusted. He was far from pressing the dange-
rous principle, that a country's resources must in-
crease indefinitely in proportion to the demands made
on its exertions ; for the greatest affluence may be
drained, and the firmest. patience exhausted; but it

is sorely the purest source of congratulation taint_
af.
ter an unexampled contest of 23 years duration, and
0 al%
the more trying crisis of a state of pace, Kh c 4
the greater part of the people were forced to seek fa
new employment, the most gratifying and unanr.ve:
able proof of the elasticity and resources of the co:m,
try should be given by the increase of the revenue i 1
,all id most important branches—Wear, heas,te,.;-
This great and financial prosperity was, home;,;l
naturally to be anticipated, as the consequence d
that system of economy and retrenchment so titled,
established, and steadily pursued, after our extensive
career of glory, on the reduction of the Army a
Navy, and the other war establishments of the cowl,
try, in every respect as extensively as was consiaett
with domestic security, or the military occupatioa
of our colonies—(Hear, hear.)--Mr. Brownlow
stated, that he had now attempted to give an outing
of the political bearings and state of the country....
Tire picture stood thus :—Abroad, we have an un-
exampled concord of nations, bound together by 6e
most- holy ties of alliance ; by their duties towards
GOD and the people whom they governat borne,
peace, affluence, and prosperity t—and, above ail
other blessings, minds and dispositions calculated to
enjoy them—(Hear, heor.)--Such is the happy coot.
try, which by the elective trust, lately restored tt,
the nation, and exercised on us, comes under oar
charge. May we jealously watch over the laws
the land—may we honestly and impartially supper
every part of the Constitution, and apply ourieke,
in harmony and union to amplify and perpetuate tie
blessings we enjoy !—(Hear, hear.}—Navin,, now
trespassed a long time on the patience of the House
hear)—he proceeded humirly to otter for
the consideration of the House the Ad hiss tf
Thanks, which was merely an echo of the Speech.
Mr. WM. PEEL—In seconding the Address,
which has been proposed with so mach ability bt
the Honourable Nlembcr who has just sat down, I
cannot hut feel how absolutely necessary it is for me
to pat in my claim to the indulgence of the Hoe*,
and c%pi csc a hope that its liberality will beextendcd
to one who stands so much in need of it. Many cf
the obtet vaticcs it was my intention to make, hay.
ing very naturally been anticipat el by tre
able Mover of the Address, I frar I run an ad;'.•
tional risk of wearying the patience of the House by
descanting on subjects which have already been no-
ticed so much at large. I am, however, somewhat
sustained by a belief that the Address I propose to
second, is not of a nature calculated to call forth
.opposition or objection, but that it will experience
the cordial support and sincere approbation of every
Member in the House ; for, as thew can exist but
one opinion as to the propriety of offering our con.
dolence to the Prince Ilei.;ent on those larcenta;..le
circumstances enticed in the Speech from the Throne,
so there can exist but one wish as to the enararnity
with which that offering should be conve)ed to nu
Royal Highness. The afflicted state of his Maesty
becomes every successive year a subject of adtia.
tional and still deeper regret ; as r.lle continuance of
that affliction must have diminished in the minds of
the most sanguine the hopes they had entertained as
to the probability of his Majesty's recovery. Ano-
ther cause of the deepest National grief pre'sents it-
self in the lamented death of the Queen ; and wit-
nessing, as we do, a disposition on the part of every
class of society to sympathize with the Prince Re-
gent on the nxisf.neune which he attti •the country
have sustained in the loss of that Royal Personage,
whose life was exercised in the discharge of evry
public and private duty, the ileprc”.entatives of the
people will of course be anxious to seize the very .first
opportunity of expressing their sense of the general
misfortune, and their. desire .to participate in the
general sorrow. It would he idle and presumptu-
ous in me to dwell upon the many excellencies which
adorned the character of her late Majesty—inas-
much as these excellencies are so universally ac-
knowledged ; and I am perfectly sensible of my own
incompetency to do them justice, were I to make the
attempt. It having become necessary that some new
arrangements should be speedily adopted, with re-
spect to the custody of his Majesty's sacred person,
such arrangements hare been recommended to our
consideration in the Speech from the Throne. Fu-
ture opportunities will be afforded for a discussion
of them. We are now merely asked to pledge
ourselves to the consideration of the subject. It is
a pleasing reflection that so many other topics would
afford us occasion to mingle our congratulations
with our expressions of condolence—Wear, hear).
Whatever difference of opinion may have existed. as
to the means by which events have been accompa-
nied, or as to the events which have lately occurred
to affect the circumstances of other countries, yet all
must in candour admit that the prosperous state and
future prospects of the country form the most ample
grounds for exultation; for, whether we compare
ourselves to other States, or, according to the fairer
criterion, compare our situation at the present day
with the situation of the country at other periods of
our history, the result of that comparison must be in
every respect highly satisfactory. If we look, for in-
stance, to the commencement of the last Parliament,
the country had to contend with the greatest diffi-
culties. We saw ourselves engaged in an ardsous
and eventful struggle, waiting with unspeakable
anxiety every arrival the thrttre of war ; and,
though every arrival brought with it the tidings of
success, yet were those tidings accompanied by others
which could not fail to produce much private misery
throughout the nation, and much anxiety as to the
future contingencies of war. During the course of
that Parliament, this country had to undergo seven
privations, resulting from the inclemencies of the
season. At a very late period of that Parliament, 2
spirit of outrage and disaffection manifested itself in
the country, which I am willing to attribute rather
to the pressure of the times, than to any general dis-
position on the part of the people to undervalue the
blessings of the Constitution under which they lire,
We have now to boast of peace abroad and tr.liquil•
lity at home. We see our revenue increasing, and
those branches of commerce which had suffered
during the war, reviving and flourishing, under the
!free intercourse which peace athirds. flow grarai-
ing to reflect, that after passing the severe contest,
through which we have so triumphantly passed, no•
thing has occurred to tarnish a single laurel we have
gained, or to bring discredit on our fair character!--
Let us here not refuse to do justice to that illustrious
Individual, to whom this country still. owes so great
a debt of gratitude, to him Illto for all leis acilucv;*

may put forth his claim to future fame, not
grounds of his great military character,
In'
eror, than on his moderation in the day of
How splendid a compliment was paid to
splendid a compliment was paid
our great Commander, on his being selected to
nand of the combined armies on the Conti.:
to the command of the troops of nations who
At so much larger forces into the field
ever we could boast ; and those troops too
' by the most skilful and experienced Ge-
ye
t all concur in entrusting the chief corn-
not to that General who had distinguished
' for the magnitude of the armies he led to
but for the magnitude of the victories he
How fully has he justified the wisdom of
ice by the ability and moderation with which
the difficult and delicate task assigned
Happily for Europe, the necessity of these
y measures no longer exists. What can
field of congratulation than to find the
state of France such as to enable the Com-
powers to withdraw their forces from its fron-
What can be morekgratifying than to find
after fulfilling, with the most honourable
:y, all its engagements, restored to its pro-
station in the scale of nations, and invited to
its Councils to those of the other European
--,bled together in the confidence of friend-
not regarding each other with the jealousy of
but acting on liberal and enlightened prin-
and consulting together for the consolidation
General Peace? In this situation of France,
,c particular cause for joy, as experience of the
:0 years has shewn us how much this country is
led in every thing which can affect the order
,!i,orier of that neighbouring State. We see
pleasure the affairs of that country, after be'ng
Jr;:ed by the troubled waves of so many revolti-
Is, gradually ~itbsiding into a calm; and, though
iv:nation may still exist, let us hope that it
More from the conflict of honest though va-
c^ilicris under a free Government, than that
to be considered as any indication of future
, Let us hope that a country which has so
felt the evils of so ninny revolutions, will
:free sensibly alive to the advantages to be deriv-
:an a limited and Constitutional Monarchy.—
it.g a disposition arising on the part of other
to assimilate their forms of government to
of ours, to fashion themselves on our model, and
:tie to take the benefits of that constitution, the
iliar advantages of which have been so fully de- •
ftrat?d, the more unwilling should •we be to ha-
the loss of the solid and substantial bles!angs •
1:,oy, by li,tening for a inoinc,tt to the absurd
impracticable schemes of wild speculation and
ied improvement ; for dearly as we hare paid
thz proof, yet the most sati,factory proof has been
'ad that there are no difficulties too gre:t to be
by the resources of this country. For not
ampe only have formidable difficulties yielded
e superiority of British skill and valour ; in Li-
the same system has been maintained—the same
ke is dime to our national character, and the
• cr.!,iit he to our moderation in the exercise of
'us of conquest. There we have seen a war
ten, not for the gratification of ambition, nat
the expa.r.ion of territory and possessions, but for
punishineat t:f aggression, and to afford protec-
to the nP4zeable from future outra7e and op-
Ilse consequences of that war have been,
sec-17.4y and comfort have been e•atablished,
ts7ror a 1..) misery before exh.ted. Ia looking
r present relations with Anacrica, let us hope
the trAirnercial arrangements with that country
vicii as will prove highly satisfactory to both
' from being established on the soundest
-It of reciprocal advantage. And now, hay-
taken a review of the prosperous state of our af-
seeing the numerous blessings we enjoy, it
Par daty to endeavour to give a permanency
varieus blessings: and, as in times of peace
tat has an opportunity of affording a more
al attcation to domestic circumstances, let it
CaTlC,:l'a to improve those circumstances, by '
ig the industry and increasing the comforts
People ; aed as they have heavily experienced
cow.ilicnces of war, so may they now sensibly
the advantages of peace. But, Sir, I fear that I
E-:eri indiscreetly abused the liberality which
been granted me. I shall therefore conclude
seconding the Address in which, it appears to
•,treat every Hon. Member in the House may ac-
whatever be his political views, without any
Anent of his character for consistency, or
'Rant pledging himself at all as to the suppott of
to measurer.
?h. MACDONALD was disposed to allow the
.4-res: to pass unopposed as a matter of courtesy,
wiiiicat any prejudice to any difference of opi-
i might arise in future discussions. Among
rticcns on which the Honourable Mover had
"A his call for unanimity, there was one on
t but one sentiment could be entertained, for all
unite in deep condolence for the loss which
koyal 'Highness and the country had experienced.
"''her subjects, however, hi• should not think
liscid bound to withhold some observations. And
4ct, the extravagant and extraordinary view
'.!eh had been taken of our present situation might
vir rem arks of a more extensive nature than those
r,:,d). he intended to make. He should be happy if
t
id join in all the grounds of congratulation
had been adduced. He sincerely rejoiced that
'vary reduction had taken place, greater than
wEich had been anticipated before our army had
''rued from Ftance.---(llear, hear.)—But any Mi-
;or woo would have maintained for a minute such
f4ce besides our regular establishment would
re deserved impeachment.--(Hear, hear hear.)—
'lois point he conceded to his Majesty's Ministers
.
portion: of merit was their due. He would
e been clad, at the same time, had the Speech
:l
tinned other reductions as actual or contempla-
particularly in the collection of the public re-
',wljeli now cost rim,- millions annaally, half
nttora^ of the country at the accession of the
uq! Br...nswick. In the branch of Stamps there
been a tremendous increase, and no one could
of the amount of the distributors and
:iiblitorships of Stamps in every town. He was
ars gnat reformations of the kind he had in view
re nest in the hands of Ministers ; but if they had
t to carry them into effect, they became the
'•;ccra of the li,Jusc. And how could they be en't

' trusted to men who had done nothing to satisfy the'
I national desire for retrenchment until after the alter-
native was put to them, 4g do this, or go?" It was
then only that they had done it (Hear, hear.) Those
Honourable Gentlemen had not been satisfied with
the last Parliament; let them now try what they
could do with the new—that House must, and he
was persnaded, would do their duty.--(Hear, Hear.)
The people would hail with unmingled satisfaction and
exultation every symptdin of improvement, provided
they had better security than the past to look to. At
a time when they laboured under an overpowering
weight of taxation, what prospect did the Chancellor
of the Exchequer hold out of removing the heaviest
taxes? He relied on the stability of the resources of
the country. But it was known that trade was sub-
ject to revulsionst we had already experienced the
evils of such a revulsion: and the present revenue,
notwithstanding its augmentation, still fell short of
that of 1803. If the Chancellor of the Exchequer
took the produce of the present year as a specimen of
the future progress of the revenue, he might be deceived.
If his expectations were realized, it must be recol-
lected that such an increase of demand must absorb
a fresh portion of our population in manufacturing
pursuits—an evil which, in a moral point of view,
was one of no small magnitude. When he looked at
the condition of the people, at the legitimation of
paupers amongst us, and at the misery subsisting in
this country, he could not feel much disposition to
join in those mutual felicitations to which he had
been invited. When he saw that out of a Sinking
Fund of 15 millious, only three were applicable to
the public service, he could not find that there was
much matter for exultation. How would the country
be prepared for any future Far? Ile did not mean
a war of aggressi( n, but one of strict necessity ;
whether we were attacked and invaded by the ran-
cour of those we had conquered, the ingratitude of
those we had saved, or the just indignation of the
many nations which our false policy had disgusted.
But the House were desired to repose faith m the
duration of Treaties, and the intimate union which
existed among the European Powers. In those he
could place but little confidence, and the last ex-
pression was too amatory to meet his English ideas.
He was convinced that the best security for the.per-
manent peace of England consisted in a steady,
'honest, and conciliatory administration of her re-
sources, and a system of strict justice towards the
people of other countries, whether powerful or weak.,
He then lamented the indifference which seemed
to prevail respecting the continuance of the Slave
Trade, though so liomally denounced by those high
professors of Christianity, the Allied Powers.--
France was a Member of that Treaty, but under the
rule of his Most Christian Majesty, alter all the sa-
crifices which we had made for his restoration, we
had not been able to obtain the sanction of the Court
of Louis XVIII. to a measure, to which other coun-
tries, nay, the King of Spain, Ferdinand himself,
had been brought, he would not say bought, to ac-
e Ede. Would not Russia, who had succeeded to that
influence in Europe which once was England's, have
prevailed over Louis XVIIL though lee 'could not?
France could not think it possible that an act of per-
fect reciprocity should exist, or that the evasion .of a
municipal law should not be connived at. As long
as France opposed the total abolition of that infernal
trade, it would continue to thrive as it now did. He
trotief ht it note little extraordinary, that the Speech
s d have been silent on so important a :Acct.
Neither did it contain any notification that' the Act
had been put in force, which directed an inquiry into
the Abuses of Charities. He spoke of that which
the Nation desired, not of that which the Ministers
had conceded. ' He should say nothing of that Act
and of its mutilations, as his Honourable and Learned
Friend on the bench below (Mr. Brcugham) would
probably take up the subject himself. But he should
contend,that it would have been better had Ministers
succeeded in putting down all inquiry together, than
for them to have issued the present lame and impo-
tent Commission. One thing was wanted, essential
to public confidence ; the Commissioners ihould have
been appointed by that House; but they were nomi
nated by the Secretary of Sta:e. He by no means
intended to make an observation which might seem
to imply censure on the individuals who composed
the Commission, There were names among them of
the highest respectability—a Your's, Sir, (addressing
the Speaker), and that of Sir William Grant—
names which would do high honour to any Com-
mission"—(Cheers, and enes I hear, hear, hear).—
He had no doubt that all the other Members were
honourable men, but it happened that in principles
and opinions, they were directly hostile to the in-
quiry—(Hear, hear.)— The name of the oriAinal
Mover did not even appear—(Hear, hear.)—Grant-
ing that his Hon. and Learned Friend, in the present
put suit of his measure, had been'as over-tealous and
enthusiastic as his adversaries had proved against
him, let by the omission of hit name, his Majesty's
Ministers had left it to be said, as it was now said far
and wide, that they fear the man who had talents,
and was in earnest—(Heer,hear.)—He had little sa-
tisfaction in urging grounds of opposition to the Ad-
dress, but he could not agree with its tender assur-
ances. Was the boasted confidence in his Majesty's
Ministers justified by the extraordinaiy results of the
late Election ? How came it then that there was
so decided an alienation from the Administration in
most, and in some entire classes ? Because the peo-
ple had recollection and experience. Because they
had seen the most important concerns of the empire
left to chance or abandoned, and measures of the
greatest moment neither effectnally .upported, nor
manfully opposed. Was the Bank Paper system tOi
be continued ? Were not Ministers themselves so
l
opposed in principles and opinions on that subject,
that they could come to nothing conclusive ? ' Had
they yet done any thing to amend the Poor Laws,
that ruinous system which was fast sapping the mo-
rals of the people ? No ; it was not id their line ttti
concur in any plan proposed, a4d if it was, they
could not afford to risk any thing to gibe it effect...—
When
ci
that great lawyer, whose loss the country wad
never cease to feel, and whose life had been so full '
activity and utility, when Sir S. Romilly, *hose name
would never be uttered without reverence in every
quarter of the glebe, brought forward his limited.
measure, some of the Members bf Government ib-
sensed themselves, or gave it holldw support, to'he
counteracted by another division the next'day-.44eir,
hear.) What had been their conduct respecting the,
Catholic question ? One of interest to the whole Eni-

. .
!pire,'th6 of indifference to its administrators, who
seemed toThave pledged themselves neither to discuss
the Mitt& in Council, nor to give the Prince their
advice, and the Legislature their aid. How had they
acted with respect to Petitioits?—(hear' hear, hear.)
When some respecting the life and death of indivi-
duals were placed into their hands, had they not most
strangely asserted that it was useless and nugatory to
submit them to his Royal Highness?.-(Hear, hear,
hear.) Had they not thus curtailed him of the noblest,
the best, and the most divine prerogative of the Crown,
the exercise of the Royal mercy ?—(hear, hear, hear.)
When had the present Ministers upheld the true dig-
nity of the Crown ? Not surely when they endea-
voured to obtain from Parliament, for branches of
the Royal Family, grants which Parliament indig-
nantly threw back in their teeth, after a discussion
calculated to lower those branches of the Royal Fa-
' mily in the public esteem. Such Ministers could not
' refrain, on the appearance of a partial disorder in the
country, arising (as was admitted by the Honourable
Mover of the Address) from temporary causes, to
rush to the last and most dangerous expedients, com-
plaining that the existing laws under our free Con-
stitution, were inadequate to the repression of distur-
bances which eventually, however, they proved suffi-
cient, both to repress and to punish. It was well'
known that the power and authority of the laws
partly consisted in the respect felt for those by whom
they were administered. How could any respect at-
tend those who, on all occasions shewed that they
had no respect for one another, ?—(lleer, hear, hear.)
They might continue to cry " wolf;" they might re-
sort to violence and rigour; they might suspend the
constitutional rights of the subject ; they might thern-
selvei violate the law by turning libellers ; they
I might introduce a foreign police into the country, but
the end of all would be that they would recruit the
ranks of their enemies and insure their own destruc-
tion, after they hall by their measures thrown odium
on the Prince they served, and left the Crown almost
Without support. The Honourable Mover of the
Address, therefore, must not be astonished if he
found that a considerable portion of the House could
not see in his recipe of union and harmony any thing
but a general prostration at the shrine of unworthy
Ministers. Gun knew the course which the present
Parliament would pursue in their deliberations and
decisions. That which was clearly marked out for
them was, neither to truckle to power on :he one
band, nor to yield to clamour on the other, but stea-
dily to follpw that path Which in their conscience
they believed to be prescribed by their public duty.
He-would trouble the House no further, and must
apologize for having so long detained them.—(Hero.)
Mr. SINCLAIR, after the able exposition of the
Honourable Mover and Seconder, should only briefly
state, that he entirely approved of the Address.
Whilst it gave credit to the temper and moderation
of Ministers, it left the great questions respecting our
home and foreign policy open to future discussions.
Ali topics which could excite a difference of opinion,
seemed to have been most studiously avoided. His
Honourable Relation; however (Mr. Macdonald) had
not kept that forbearance which might have been ex-
pected. There was not one measure on which he had
not proceeded to arraign his Majesty's Ministers, and
his only surprize was, that he had not embodied his
opinions into an Amendment Hear, hear,) especially
after the triumphant description which he had given
of the results of the late elections—results which had
been so boastfully proclaimed throughout the land,
and which, it was natural to think, would have led
to an immediate trial of strength. From such a trial,
however, he had shrunk; but he had discussed a num-
ber of topics, each of which was of sufficient impor-
tance in itself to deserve the whole attention of the
House *of Commons—(Sh.„. of Hear, hear, hear.)
He was too conscious of his own inability to follow
his Hon. relation through all his statements. Neither
did he so entirely differ from all he had said—( Hear,
hear)—as to wish to combat him on every point.—
It was but fair for some Members to keep aloof from
all party influence, and to presume to decide for
themselves. lion. Members must be aware that the
eyes of their constituents were fixed with scrutinising
anxiety on all they did. While some thought Mini-
sters ought to be removed, others wished V.em to be
supported ; and it was the part of indep-ndent men
sometimes to support, and sometimes to oppose mea-
sures, accordik; as their nature required it ; to be
rather disposed to approve than to censure, and to
controul, than to embarrass--(Hear, hear.)—Many
writers who supported the opinions of the Hon. Gen.
tlernen opposite, maintained that the great and sole
object of Parliament should be to expel Ministers
from office, and that every proposition proceeding from
them ought to be opposed. The Members who pre-
sumed to follow their own judgment with respect to
the measures of the Government" were branded as
useless or dishonest, and all the Members of the
House were called upon so prove their integrity by
the most inveterate opposition—(lfear, hear, hear.)
Was not this inviting to make no allowance for the
difficulties attendant on the situation of Ministers ?
Instead of excusing their errors, was net disregard.
ing their services, and changing the old constitutional
maxim that the King can do no wrong, into a new
one, that Ministers can do no right. .He lamented that
the Press should instil such principles, tending to
excite the feelings of the lower orders against the
King and the Constitution, and should more parti-
cularly so degrade itself on the day universally set
apart for religious prayer and meditation. Ilis Ho-
nourable Friend had talked of the unpopul:u ity of
the Government, and he must confess that there was
some truth in it—(hear, hear.) But whence did that
unpopularity proceed? From the mention of the Sus-
pension of the Habeas Corpus, which had been used
by Candidates to excite against Ministers all the
odium of popular resentment. He concluded by re-

stating, that although disposed to give Government
all the support which he conscientiously could bestow,
Ilse should oppose every measure which he did not con-
side!' consistent with justice and the good of his coun-
try—Om', hear.) , I
Mr. CLIVE; holding the situation which he did,
could not suffer tile: issertirn to pass uncontradicted,
:that his Royal nigh:Less had been deprived by the
act of any. of his_Maiesty!s. Ministers, of the exercise
ot the high' F'retOg.atsie of .Royal mercy. The fact
'was, that, ~.veitio, of the .nature alluded to had.
'been l'aV e10t.4, ilia Noble Lgrd at the head of the.
i
Home ..—p."(snt.„, and by 'him forwarded to his
Royal i,t1144,At ,ISltigi:tgn. ' An answor had come,
leaving it to the No'ule Home Secretary of State to

it° is lie.ilmitgh.t *pier I. the case. The Pethictf
itself had twice been considered by the Cabinet and
`the Privy Council, and his Royal Highness had
abided by their advice.
Mr. MACDONALD could not, as a Member of
that House, have suffered even the first day of the
Session to pass without exposing,what he conceived
to have been a high breach of the Royal prerogative.
The Hon. Under Secretary of State (Mr. Clive) had
asserted,- that the Petition in question was sent to
Brighton, and an answer obtained. He (Mr. Mac-
donald) thought, that when the Honourable Gent!e-
man heard the official answer which had been made
on the subject, be would allow that he had been mis-
taken. The Petition was signed by nine very respect-
able inhabitants of Liverpool, in behalf of a man
under sentence of death for uttering forged not's. It
was transmitted to the Rig/at Hon. George Canning,
the Member for Liverpool, by whom it was sent to
the Secretary of State for the Home Department.—
The Honourable Gentleman then read the following
cots espondence _

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