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VHEATRE ROYAL, DRURY.LANI.'
ITSI/111 Tux neurnunit WraosworOF
Her Grace the Duchess of BEDIEORD, -
The Marchioness of HERTFORD,
The Marchioness of I)OWNSHIRE; •
The Countess DERBY, .
The 'Coonless F.SSEX; -

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The Countess COVENTIV,
The Colintess JERSEY,— • •
The Countess COWPER, 4•-•'•
The Countess BESBOROUGH,
Lady CAROLINE Ugh
E NOBILITY, GENTRY, 4n4. MBLIC;
1. *lost respectfully informed, that. Mr.. &wan having
liberally proffered the.ttie. of his. Theatres and the Profession
their kind assistance, a BENEFIT for the WIDOW kud EA-
ILY of the late Mr. RAE, will. take• place on TUESDAY;
(Means 31, 1820 ; when will be presented the Comedy of
THE RIVALS.
After which, an ADDRESS, written expressly. for the occasion.
To conclude with •
A FAVOURITE .FARCE, •
And other Entertainments, as will be expressed in future

Advertisements.

Tickets and Pikes for the Boxes may be had of Mrs. Ras,
170. 18, Henrietta-street, Covent-garden. •

TO THE PUBLIC
VHENEVER I take a Contract for a Lottery, it
is always my endeavour so to arran:s: the Scheme as to
v.teet the wi,hes, i; possible, of you, my best friends. The pre-
sent-Contr.:et I diritledinto Three 1 (eerie', the Schemes widely
chairing from each other, as by that means 1 was, enabled to
attain what 1 so much desired, the approbation of so many more
friends than if I had confined my plans•to one principle alone.
Two of the Lottillimare'ooneluded, and I am happy to say met
ititngreat eticouragcnienti and for which allow me to return
you-trif stiieent thanks. I have •now the honour of submitting
for i•diit • .rArrolration-the Gust Srheine of the Contract (and tha
Lo!tary Vitt tan. be diault this par‘j• it consi4ta of 6,600
Tickets, and contains-Two Prizes of E 20.000 Consols. Two
Prizes of .013,000 Consols and .22,000 Money, making together
FOUR PRIZES OF 5e30,000.
Besides various other Capitabs and advantages, as will he smithy
a reftrence to the Scheme. Yy object.for having so many Stock
Prizes, was owing to the request of numerous individuals, who
conceived this a most elizible dole, as th. re has been, without any
apparent use, so great a depression of the Public Funds, that
a considerable re-action, or rise, may reasonably be expected, and
of such rise the Holdurs of the Prizes would have all the benefit.
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. • NEW LOTTERY,
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OFFICE pp ORDMINCE, .My 31, 13410.
'THE Public are hereby informed, that Thirty-
'-a eryen. PLATES of the ORDNANCE SURVEY of
GREAT BATTAIN, carried on under the superintendence of.
the •We Major-General WILLIAM MUDGE, LL,D.
and A.S. are now complete, and that Impressions from them
lit on Sale at the Ordnance Map Office, in the Tower of Lon-
and also at William Paden's, Geographer to his Majesty;
and Agent to the Board of Ordnance, at Charing-Cross. These
Plates contain the Comities of Kent, Essex, Sussex, Hants.
'Dorsett Devon, and Cornwall, and portions of Somerset,
Surrey, Pembroke, Cardigan, Carmarthen, Glamorgan, Wilts,
Berke, Suffolk,• Hertford, and Cambridge.—
Part IX. containing nearly the whole of Pembrokeshire, and
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portions of the adjacent Country, was published on the Ist
of August, 1819; and as the Work Is still in progress; ac-
cording to the original design of giving a complete Map of
Great Britain, .upon a Scale of One Inch to a Mile, the publi-
cation of the future Parfs will follow as fast as the nature of
suck a Work will admit, without increasing itctatexpense.
Gentlenten,wishing to procure a Map of the C .sicround-
ins their own habitations, may, by application to Mr. BAKMIII,
at the Ordnance Map Office, where an Index Map will be
shewn, select my sheets they please for that purpose. All let-
ters on this 'subject addressed to Mr. BALER, under a cover to
the Secyetary of the Board of Ordnance, PAll4lall, will be im-
mediately attended to.
By Order of de !laird, R. H. CREW, Secretary.

4,800 Tkckets. Total, Money and Consols £107,0104
To be drawn in Two Classes, A and 8,.N0. 1 to 3,100.
- • DETERMINA;LE PRIZES
Rftbpdrewzi Prize to have £l ~000 Coasob, and £2,000 Mo-
ney fnolre.
Taith-drawn Vrize above £5O to have £20,000 Consols more,
SECOND DAY. •
Pirst 800 ambers drawn Blanks, to have £l6 'Money each.
N0..1 to };700 to be drawn on the 15th of Novesisza.
WA. 1,701 to 4,400 to be drawn on the 48th of NOVEMITII.
kvery Prize above xeo, drawn First Jay to be entitled tp a
-sioss*lliStet,- or fsirtear Chance, by which it is possible, by one
Ticket, a person might. get TWO PRIZES of TWENTY
WIMirUSA ND POUNDS (gunesperticipage is these adoanaega.)

PRESENT STATE OP BRAZIL '
Just published, in One Vol. 410. with Maps and Plan, peke
£2 12s. 6d. boards
'VOTES ON RIO DE JANEIRO, AND THE
1.11 SOUTHERN KARTS of BRAZIL, taken during a
Residence of ten Years in that. Country, from 1808 •to 18111;
with an Appendix, describing the Signals by which Vessels enter.
the Port of Rio Grande do Sul; together with numerous T.-
bks of Commerce, and a Glossary of Tupi Words.
By JOHN LUCCOCK.
Printed fur Samuel Leigh, 114 Strand.

London :

NEW BRITAIN.
This day was published, price Os. boards,
A NARRATIVE of a JOURNEY, by. Mr. EL-
i.is,to a Country so called by its Inhabitants, discovered
in the vast Plain of the Missouri, in North America, and inha-
bited bye People of British Origin, who live under an equita-
ble system of society, productive of peculiar independence and
happiness; also, same account of their Constitution, Laws, In-
stitutions, Customs, and Philosophical Opinions: together with
a brief Account of their History, from the time-of their de-
parture from Great Britain.
London: Printed for W. Simpiin and R. Blarshall, Sta-
tioners'-court, Ludgate-street.

BURGESS' NEW SAUCE for general purposes
hiving. given suds great approbation, and 'the demand for
ht eassilisuing to encriase,_ JOHN BURGESS and SON beg
most respectfully to offer: this their best acknowledgments to
*Public for their hbrral patronage of the same its utility
• mil treat convenience in all climates, has recommended it to
the most distinguished foreign cainexions, who have all spoken
)14,1t1y, itt4ts recmunsep;:ation.-4.1t primed ty them ONLY;
and-for preventing disaptiointment-to•Farhilies all pcuible care
b been.resorted to by each bottle being, sealed upon the cork
with their brass -abeaddress, as well as each label having their
- signature, without:Which it cannot be genuine. - • •
JOHN BURG.F.SSprui SPN's long eitablishcd and much
sitsesaed ESSENCE. of,ANCHOVIES, continues to be pro-
p-aed by them after theaanicinaittikfthat hai given The greatest
satisfaction for many years. . .
Warehouse,lo7, Ssitaun, corner of the Sairoy-steps, Lor.don.
(vuE ouscasiAt mit-cities taaanuouir). -

TO COUNTERACT the many attempts that are
daily made to impose on the unwary a SPURIOUS
COMPOSITION, instead of the GENUINR BLACKING
prepared by DAY and MARTIN, they have adopted a new
Label in which their address,

97, HIGH HOLBORN,
Is so consp!cuously placed • in the centre, that they trust an atten-
tion to this, and the difference of the type, which is unlike all lettet
press, will enable purchasers at oilce to detect the briposiren.
The Real Japan BLACKING, made and sold Wholesale by
DAY and MARTIN, 97, High ; and retailed by the
principal Grocers; Druggists, Booksellers, Ironmongers, Per-
fumers, Boot-makers &c. in the [Jolted ingdom, in Docks,
at 6d. 'ls. and Is. 641: each.

rpHE ESSENCE of PEARL :Ind DEN-
T I FR Icy., invented by the late jACOIIIIRMET, Den.
list to the Royal Family, have been proved by long experience
tc greatly excel, both in elegance and efficacy, every other pre-
paration for the Teeth athi tiums : they effectually preserve the
Teeth in a strand state even to old age, render them white and
beautiful, without impairing the enamel, fasten such as are loose,
ald keep such as are decayed from becoming woe-;e. They like-
*at. render the breath dzlicately sweet, prevent the Tooth-ache,
perfectly cure the Scurvy in the Gums, and make themgrow
t•=l andvlose to the teeth. The Essence is particularly recom-
trended to parents and persons who have the care of children as
the greatest preservative of young and tender teeth. Nene are
but what have the words, " J. Hemet, Bayley and Blew,
Ce:ltspar-strPet," engraved in the stamp, price 2s. 9d. each.
LOIY LEY's 'FRI) E IiSS E N 'l' I A I. SA LT of LEMONS for
taiLng Lk spots and stains out of Lace and Linen. 'llia genuine
is signed OW. Bayley" on the box said wrappers. Also his
IVIOURING DROPS, for tukiug Grease out of Silk, Stuff,
Woollen Cloth, toe. price Is. each.
Veritable PONIMADE DIVINE, price ss. 6d. the glass.
SAd wholesale and fetal, by Bayley and Blew, Perfumers,
zsspur-atreet, London.

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,lIOUSE OF LORDS, OCTOBER SO. '
DEFENCE—SIXTEENTH DAY. .
(In continuatiortfivsm theft* Edirne ifisestersiey's Smit.)
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, he would not press this
objection, on the condition thaconly such parts of the letters as
relate immediately to the subject should be produced.
The LORD CHANCELLOR did dot see the limits of
this coarse of proceeding. If their Lordships considered the
gentlemen who appeared in support of the am as their agents,
they might successively call for the evidence and correspondence
of the Attorney and solieitor-General, and all the agents and
solicitors in the cause. If the parts of the letters relating to this
point could be so abstracted as to be produced, he bad no
objections; but before their Lordships had examined Mr.
Powell on the subject, _they should have decided whether they
would call for the letters or not. Rut it was said the letters
were called for in order to contradict Mr. Powell's testimotry.
And they called on Mr. Powell to furnish this contradiction
out of his own pocket. He, however, had no objection to
parts of the lettertbeing produced.
Lord ERSKINE did not see the analogy drawn by the No-
ble and Learned Lord, as to calling the Attorney-General, -and
'calling Mr. Powell, since the latter bad been guilty of a con-
tempt of that House, in sending away a witness who had been
examined before their Lordships.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN thorght Mr. Powell had
been very fairly treated in his examination. Ile had only been
asked if he had written letters to Colonel Brown? and not as .to ,
their contents. He contended that the House was fully autho-,
rised to canon Mr. Powell to produce these letters. He appealed
to the law books, in which it was expressly stated, that it was
for the protection of principals that agents could not be cite-
mined ; but when a principal waives this objection, then the
agent might be examined. He was anxious that, the truth
i should be got at ; and as some Noble Lords thought this might
I be done by a Secret Commitee, he would withdraw his present
Motion, and submit another, which was, " That a Secret Com-
mittee be appointed, to examine the correspondence of Mr.
Powell and Colonel Brown."
Lord LIVERPOOL suggested that a Committee he ap-
pointed to call for such parts of Air. Powell's correspondence as
they might deem necessary.
Lord HOLLAND said, the subject now resolved tuelf into
a question of privilege. _ _ ..

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JONI to the Coiemittee, with tie understesidingtbat lipw.2
, should exhibit the letters and fold down such parts as he deemed
necessary, and which might satisfy the ()millilitre that they
were in possession of all the parts relating to the subject of in-
quity. It was most netessart that the mystery which hung
over this transaction should be dispelled, and that mystery Gould
not be dispelled without the production of the parts of the cor-
respondence moved Tor.
Lord LIVERPOOL said, he meant that nothing hut that
part of the correspondence between Mr. Powell and Colonel
Brown relative to the mission of Itastelli should be produced.
He did not wish. to be a member of the Committer, liot be
thought there could be no ettlection to the atte:ndanee el Mr.
Powell at it, foe the purpose of supplying the required documents.
Lord LAUDERDALE said, the words of the inotiou im-
plied that ad the correspondence should be produced, and nut
mere exttacts--(Cries of Ne).• • .
Lorct-ROATON said a-fesv words, but -they-were quite in-
audible below the Bat:- • •
LordLLMFALCX- deprecated the idea or expiiinig the con-
fidential communications between .persoes confidentially-ern- "
ployvd: -There . could not .be a practice . more dangerous ; and
convinced of the dangtt that must inevitadyattend such a
disclosure, be should, with all his poleek, oppose both of the
motions. •t"- ;"'?1 r • -•
The Marquis of RUCKING HAM was of not
only extracts, but the correspondence itself should be laid before
their Lordships, in a case of such peculiar importance.
The LORD .CH A N CELLOR said, that if the House
I thought proper to divide, he must object to any motion tend-
ing to compel the violation of a confidential communication.
What right had the House to order the iroduction of Colonel
Brown's letters? If the House agreed to such a .principle as
that contended for, what matt In his senses would think of an-

pAYMANS 'Genuine Cki&si MAREDANTS'
ANTISCORUUTIC DROPS, bane always held the
&Oast reputation in the class of Antiiesirbuties ; insomuch
V•at they have, .luri.:g pelf a.ertitury, been an article of eaten-
:7c velum:ice , she Scorbutic Itiseans of all climates yielding
tiafir alterative virtues. 'Dna tnedicine enters the circulation
It a dedlerative and ociagcnial manner, blending itself with the
CJidi without Ger.:stoning the least exeltetrient injurious to the
adnial system. Thu Scurvy, Evil. Leroty, Piles, Itheumattsn:,
l'o:ttracted Joints, White Swellii-gs, hard 1.131114UT5, and. Ca-
ns Moms, give way to its Iteoptratian is so ex-
cesdingly easy, regular, and progressive, that the patient, at-
ilt:Aliog to the dirc;:iut a, can never be at a loss bow to -manage
vs proceed; and :lie cam:telt:a given with each bottle, the
aruleted may judge how lii thtir dileaset wdliicid to its cc:.
Barclay and Suns, nest-market, London, having purchased
ti.e origioxi recipe sod entire property in this valuable medicine,
ca hereby *mu noLice that, as i certain criterion of authenticity,
S L.',l with their mono ..tid aduron, supa.--diled to the Stump
'with- the Liaise of "J. liaymen, Guide's-square," will in future
Os :,-emu to each bettle. 1 race 44. ed. 1!(. and tils. each, duty
ii.e..Lse..*Sisnat. by Ali-venders of Medicine.

awering any letter written by Mr. Powell?--(Hear, hear, hear).
Lord REDESDALE said, the second motion appeared to
Mm to be recommending 3 bad mode of doing the thing proposed
ie the first, and calculated to destroy every chance of justice.
Earl G REY, so far from thinking the measures proposed un-'
just, was convinced that justice could not be done without
the adoption of ow or other of them. His object, in agreeing
ets the amendment was, to obviate as far as possibli the objections
the other side. Their Lordships "would look to the case.
On the tilst of August, an order was Issued by that House that
the witnesses in this case should attend, dc die in diem, and the
Noble Lord opposite (Liverpool) had pledged himself that the
crier should be made effectual. It was afterwards found ne-
cessary to call upon one of those witnesses, to give evidence upon
a subject of great importance in the investigation, and their
Lordships found that their agent bad acted in contempt, in de-
fiance of that order, and sent the witness out of the country.
*ln the course of the decision upon this subject, it had been
stated by a High Authoeity in that House, that the injury done
to her Majesty's cause by the departure of the witness was irre-
parable. How thee, if their Lordships meant to preserve their
,character as the highest Tribunal In the kingdom, Could they
think of pursuing any course until they had sifted that extraordi-
nary circumstance to the bottom ? Mr. Powell had been called
to state his' reasons for having sanctioned the departure of
the witness; and, without meaning any disrespect whatever
to that Gentleman, the explanation was by no means satis-
factory. It then became absolutely necessary that the cor-
respondence should be produced. All that was required of the
Committee was, to examine the correspondence, and to report
,such parts of it to the House as related to the mission of Rastelli,
consistently with the interests of the Public. He would, with
the 'view of more effectually bringing the House to an effeCtILII
agreement upon this subject, propose that Mr Powell should
produce such pane of the oorrespondence between him and
Colonel Brown as related to the mission of Rastelli to Mi-
lan; and be should also submit a second motion, that the
correspondence be referred to a Secret Committee, to report
on the parts-of that correspondence alluded to. An examination
to this effect was indlepensible. It would be absurd to leave
it to Mr. Powell to make what extracts he pleased, indeed
It would be a complete mockery, to have anything produced
before the Committee bet the originals.
Lord LIVERPOOL said he had no objection to the pmdne.
tion of sealed copies of the parts of the correspondence relating to
the mission of flastelli, and to the reference of those copks to a
Secret Committee, which might have the power of examining
Mr. Posed? as to the correctness of the copies.
Earl GREY said he should agree to this suggestion, as he
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was willing to obviate ail difficulties that might be raised to the
investigation of truth. The Noble Lord then moved his amend-
ment to that effect—for the production of the sealed copies, and
the appointment of a Committee. •
Lord LIMERICK said, he should divide-the House apiest
the proposition, as his objections remained unaltered.
Lord MAN VERS thought the character of the House com-
promised, by the absence of Rowell', and the circumstance that
such absence was not satisfactorily accounted for. He would
give his support to ailything that was caliulated to elucidate
this most mysterious transaction—(Hear, Item')..:

The 1.0R6 ell A NCELI.OR did not wish to limit the pri-
vileges of the Ikuse, but he ,could be sorry that any measure
was adopted that left private correspondence unprotected.
The Marquis of BUCKINGH A M said, if the object of their
Lordships was to elicit the truth, he did not think that object
would be attained by xnerelysubmitting extracts of the letters to
a Secret Committee. If their Lordships deemed it necessary to
break through the ordMary rules, be thought they should give
the Secret Committee more extensive powets.
The Marquis of LA NSDOWN repeated his motion.
The Earl of LAUDER DALE wished to know the precise
words of it.
The LORD CIIANCELLOR then put the motion, which
was as follows That a Secret Committee be appointed to in..
quire into and examine the Co.respoodence between John Alias
Powell and Colonel Brown, so far as relates to the Mission of
Rastelli to Milan, and toe cause of his not returning."
The Larl of LA UDE ItDA LE objected to the motion. If
their Lordzhips laid down as a principle, that the corrinrson, dence
betvlsen an agent and a principal could be called for try a Secret'
committee, or by any person, there would be an end to all con.
&knee between agent and principal. Ile bad no object:cm to
extracts heir; made from the fitters by Air. Powell, and sub-
mitted to the Siciet Committee.
The Marquis of LANS IJOWN replied. This he said was
Oat, it had been stated,, an unprecedeated course. Not a year
bad elapsed, since, in the other flouse, ti.is course was adopted,
handling for the. cumquat:dews o:tweet' a Mi. Grady, and,
Mr. Smith, relative to 'an Mrciiort petiiion; Ile thought Ase
best way would be, tbat We piper! Quaid toe. and

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Lord SOIRERS said, that nothing could more effectual')
tend to destroy the confidence between agents and principals,
than the motion before the• House, if carried into effect. He
did not know how any man could be at ease, if he were in the
constant fear of having his letters exhibited to the public.
• Lord MANVERS said it was necessary, for dr. Posrell's
character, to have the mystery cleared. Ot two evils the least
should be chosen, and that certainly was the production of the
correspondence. * • •
Earl HAREWOOD said he was the last man to authorise
the violation of confidence, between i principal and agent;
but, under the particular circumstances of this case their
Lordships had nothing to do, but to insist upon the pro-
dUction of the parts of the correspondence alluded to. There
was in the transaction, something upoq the face which required
that the House should sift the case to the bottom. He trust,!d
that the Committee would not exceed the: authority with which
they were invested, and was convinced that the ends of jus-
tice would be best answered by the motion just propoied.
Lord HA RDWICKE cor.curred in the proposition, that the
most full investigation should take place.
Lord GREY contended, that the confidence between prin-
cipal and agent would not be violated by the production of these
Papers. If, observed the Noble Earl, their Lordships thought this
enquiry ought not to be prosecuted then the whole of these pro-
ceedings- should terminate instantaneously ; and if their Lord-
ships tckr.owledged an act of injustice had been committed
which they could not remedy, and into which they could not
enquire, he would then move the immediate termination of
these proceedings. The Noble Earl concluded by moving as an
amendment, or rather an addition to the original motion, that
the Secret Cohimittee base power to examine Mr. Powell as to
the authenticity of the extracts made by him.
The Earl of DONOUGILMORE spoke in favour of the
motion.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN did not c7Zject to the amend-
ment of his Noble Friend. It was, however, essential that the
Noble Lae& whe formed this Committee should abstain from
searching into any other .part of the correspondence, except
such as related to the immediate object of this inquiry.
The Earl of LA UD!iItDA LE did not see how the extracts

world be verified, without encroaching on the necessary privacy
of that correspondence.
Earl GItEY elplaioed. What he meant by verifying the
extracts, was, that the Committee should ascertain that they
were faithful extracts.
The Earl of CAIiNARVON said, that the measure pro-
posed to be adopted by their Lordships was doing little or no-
thing in the cause of justice. They called on Mr. Powell to
hiake out his own case, and to bring forward such extract% as he I •
pleased, without knowing whither did extracts. were garbled or
not. Li the powers of the Cominittee were thus limited, their I
Lordships would [wither satisfy theniSelves nor do justice to the
Queen. Rid not the whole case for the preseeetioo, and per-
haps axon thau the case, been submitted to a SecretComosittee? I
and now it was proposed to confine a Secret Commfttee to the.,
exantinailon of extracts, which might be gathkd, such extracts
as an Agent for the Bid might choose to furnish. before their
Lordships proceeded to such a meastire be thought the Counsel
for the tisieen should be called in, and statehow far it was likely
to affect the defence of her hLa erty. Without this, he conceived
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' that their Lordships would not give satisfaction tb any peiscn
app.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN was sorry to differ with his
Noble Friend who- had just sat down. The Counsel had no-
thing tar do with the present course of their Lordships. It was
un inquiry by the House into the cause why its orders had
been disobeyed. All that was necessary wits, that the Com-
mittee should not be deceived ; and if they suspectetrit, they
might come to the House, and call for new powers.
Earl GREY saw no necessity for giving she Committee
greater powers in the present stage of the business.
The LORD CHANCELLOR then put the queitios, as
amended by Lord Grey, when the House divided—
Contents - - 122
Non-Contents - 79.
Majority in favour of appointing a Committee —45
The following Peers were then appointed on the Comminee :
The Lord President of the Lord Ellentioroegh •
Council ` F.ati of Lauderdale
Eel Grey Lord Erskine
• liar) of Rossiya Lord Ross
Lord Manners Lord Amherst
Lord Arden Marquis of Lanadoven. . -
On our re-admisdon into the °use, eve found Mr. BK0114843(
addressing their Lordships. He was calling to their recollection,
the when Mr. Powell was under examination on Saturday, their
Lordships had been phased to call in the Counsel on both sides
to take a part in the exarninationein consequence of which they
-had been made parties to the inquiry which was going on, into
the fact of ae obstruction of justice having taken place. He
submitted, therefore, that being thus parties to the inquiry,
they were entitled to see the correspondence which related to
the alleged obstruction, and he wished also to know, whether
their Lordships would assist her Majesty's Counsel with such
means es might be necessary, either at present, or at any
future stage of the proceedings, for pursuing the investigation to
a satisfactory conclusion? The examination of Mr. Powell had
only been partially gone into.; it might be necessary to call that
Gentleman again. He (Mr. Brougham) thought that the truth
of the case could not be gat at without securing the production
of the whole correspondence of the parties, to which, if there
was nothing wrong, there could be no objection. •
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that he had it not in
Instruction from the House to make any answer to the pro-
position of the Learned Gentleman.
Lord CARNARVON thought that her Majesty's Counsel
should not be excluded from examining Mr. Powell again, if
they deemed it necessary to the farther prosecution of the en-
quiry into the imputed conspiracy. As a wish had been ex-
pressed by her Majesty's Counsel to that effect, he would now
move, that Mr. Powell be called to the Bar. '
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, briefly, that nothing
could be more dangerous than such a course of proceeding. He
would not enter into argument upon it ; he would content him-
self with saying, Not content,
Lord LIVERPOOL thought that the preferable period for
again examining Mr. Powell, if any further examination was
necessary, woehl be when he appeared at the bar with those
parts of the correspondence which the House had just ordered
him to produce. • •
Lord HOLLAND said, that their Lordships had already
called upon the Counsel to assist in the inquiry respecting the
disappearance of liastelli ; that inquiry was not deemed satis-
factory, it seemed that it was not completed. Their Lordships
discovered that mysteries hung about this transaction which it
was necessary. if possible, to clear away ; they established a
Committee called Select, but it was well understoud,..that that -
Committee was. to be a secret Committee; that they were not
to divulge their proceedings either to their Lordships or to the
Public. Their Lordships, it would seem, were resolired not to
communicate with Counsel. though they had done so on the
former occasion. Their Lordships must have had some reason '
for establishing a Committee; the reason was, that their Lord-
ships felt that the inquiry was neither complete nor satisfactorv. •
The Counsel for her IlLjeity w re aterested in the inoeiry; tb 1.
Lordship.* made them parties co it., because they h;d directed
them to employ their minds upon it. To put questions to
the agent, to sift the nsaher in issue Counsel did attend
the examinadue at the Bar; and they, like their Lordships,
felt that the partial inqitiry already had was rot tither com-
plete, conclusive, or satisfactory. .)'heir Lordships found that
the inquiry was not satisfectoryo-what were they now to say?—
' were they to say tnat the inquiry was satisfactory or complete?
No; that would be a contradiction in terms; for if it were
complete and satisfactory, why call for further procf?—why
did they look for a more complete inquiry ? Were they t 3
turn round to the Counsel for her Majesty, and say, this ha busi-
ness which afrects us exclusively—you have nothing to say to it,
you have nothing to do with it ? Could they-say to the Counsel,
you have no right to interfere in this inquiry, because the Queen
is not interested in the issue of it ? We have called on you before?
we made you parties to an inquiry which, however, we now ac-
knowledge was not satisfactor y ; but though we have made you
parties in the one case, we will not consult you in the other;
and we will assurr.e that the Queen is not interested in an inquiry
which has for its avowed object, whether an obstruction of jus-
tice has taken place in a case which so vitally affects her interest
and her honour—was there ever anything more absurd ?—was
there ever a proceeding more anomalous, more strange, or
more contradictory? The truth was, that their Lordships
could not Aden their eyes to the case before them ; an 010.
struction of justice bad occorred,.and they were bound to one
of these conclusions; either they would proceed to inquire
into into and to. ascertain the whole of the cause of that obstruc-
tion of justice, or they would say, we are not able to dose,
and therefore we are not able to proceed further in this Bill.
'lick Lordships were bound to call Mr. Powell to their Bar,
notwithstanding the appointment of a Committee—a Cods-
mittee, by the bye, established for the first tin* to investigate tato
breaches of privilege and contempt of Court. Their Lordships
always expressed themselves anxious to follow ancient usages,
and to adhere with 'strictness to the established rules of evi-
deuce. He wished that Noble Lords, when they talked of
abiding by the rules ef law, and who at the same time, with
great boldness, asserted that Bilk of Pains and Penalties were
part of the Constitution of this land, he would wish to see then
`Noble Lords eller, to the House what rules of evidence mole
to be followed in proceeding on those Bills of Paine and Not.
ties. Ile had beard it said by some Noble Lords, that they
should not do that which might indeed tend to bring home tie
truth, because, by doing so, they might violate established yds-
cipleo, so disturb which would be injurious to the administrating
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of justice- If, indeed, it could be 'hewn, that in all future pro-
ceedings of a judicial nature, the precedent they might establish
in this instance should be followed—much, no doubt, might be
said—but if that were not the ease, the argument could have.ho
force nor application, and their Lordships were not bound down
by any arbitrary rules. •If their Lordships were ditermhsedeb
abide by the rules of evidence in this long, tiresome, and, he
weeld add, contemptible proceeding—(Cesers)--they must *ty-
pes!, that the rules of evidence led to the attainment of junky:
if not, they ought to gihe lie the proceeding altogether, because
the only jestilicatiesi they had for proceeding at all waste come
a: the troth, and to advance the cause of justice. If they-foetid,
hhirevcr, that they could not do so—if they found themselves
involved in dieaculties--belet by the branches of this 3000%11,
lOUs and contradictory case, he would repeat that they shook!
either give it up, or allow the fullest and most ample latitside
of inquiry. To allow that latitude of examination, it was said,
would be inconvenient ; he allowed that it might produce much
inconvenience; but who were the cause of the difficulties to
which they were exposed?—theft' Lordships' and the votes of
that house. They should go on—they could not stop-short
without doing injustice ; either let all be brought out—let the
fullest latitude lie given—ot let the odious proceeding be (trope
for ever. By-taking the latter coarse, he. would venture mune
that there was nut a man in the country who wuldd tact is hits
heart applaud then—(Hear, hear /). . • --
Lord ELLENBOROUGH thought that the abstractioe of
nautili should be considered in two points of view;- BMt, as as
obstruction to her Defence; and second, as a breach
of privilege. It was under the Lint point of view alone that
the House had detettnioed that Ceased skald be cellist
to taker part In the examinktion of Mr, PoitaiL. As agues
lion of privilege, the Counsel bed Soda* le ilieedlile the bed

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