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London, England, 1820-06-08 00:00:00

▪ observed, that her Majesty' had commanded him
to call for. Wfair, full, and open examination. The'
' ''speedier and ampler it was, the more die would be
satisfied. 'iliac Ole examination-should be short, he.
(sr. Brougham.) said no; and, if it was to be made,
he, for that reason, -said also, the sooner the better.
Bat her Majesty Frotcsls alai!,st any secret institution;
• which, w:lether it be called a Grand Jury, a Secret
'Tribunal, or an la%isiLie Tribunal: her 24.sjesty calls
. OR that Body to let her see its proce:::dings, and hear
the witnesses. " And I Sir," continued tile Ho.;
r.ourable and Learned Gentleanto., as a 111eniber.of
this House, call upon it before it gnes one step farther,
to weigh well all the circumstances I have submitted
to it. My last prayer, and the last uish.that I breathe
is, that the negociations may not be broken off all at
once ; and that if it be possible in any way to spare
the country the pain of this inquiry, it will be fax
worthier of his Majesty's Ministers to take that course,
than to continue in their pi event one merely for the
sake of shewing their skill in successfully.steeriag
' clear of the diflicu‘tiei of their present situatior.--
' (Tie Leari,ed Gentleman sat dozen amid loud cheering).
Mr. CANNING rose. Ile never felt him:cifcalledupon to
discharge a duty on which he could more safely souk back with-
oat feelings of compunction, than that in which he now rose to
ptrform a part. In every syllable uttered by the Honourable
and I.earned Gentleman as respecting the mischief of the in-
ceeiry into which they were about to enter, he heartily concurred.
But all that part of the llocourable and Learned Gentleman's
speech, which imputed to the Ministers of the Crown the re-
sponsibility of forcing the ire:eery, and in takire up the. challenge
thruwn, which he (Mr. Braugharn) threw out last night, he was
prepared to say, that not oil did his Majesty's liliuisters not
• seek this oecasiott, but they opposed, by every expedient in their
• power, its apprcacb. He would doehem the justice to remem-
ber that the taunts thrown out by the Right Honourable Gen-
tleman opposite ( air. Tierney) at the beginning of the Session to
come to some definite explanation on the subject of the Queen,
and which bid placed them in so great a dilemma, had never
been taken up by them. He was sure the Honourable and
Learned Gentleman (Mr. Brougham) could not have been a
party to this; he, on the contrary, was the most anxious friend
to compromise, and the prevention of that public inquiry which
the Reek Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Tierney) considered to
be so indispensable. The- Right Honourable Gentleman had
Always told them that • inquiry could not be avoided ; that' ru-
mours were abroad so injurious to the honour of the Crown,
Gnat no money could be voted without a sacrifice of its in-
terest and dignity. The Right Honourable Gentleman was,
therefore, at issue with his Honourable and Learned Friend ; but
it was with the latter that he (Mr. Canning) agreed. With him
be most cordially coincided, that if not forced on by a park
mount necessity, it was most desirable to avoid all discussion of
the subject now unhappily before them. But the Learned Gen-
tleman said that Ministers, instead of the course they had
adopted, should have come down to the House wish a Bill of
pains and pee:Ales. To this he replied, that they did not wish
to be the builders of this charge, the collectors of evidence—
Weer, hear, from the Ojpesiti,nrj—he repeated, that they were
teethe collectors of evidence in an invidious sense; but when
the circulestances were brought before their eyes, they were
bound in duty to their Sovereign to bring the case, as they had
done, wi:h gen ity Lefore the Parliament and the Country.
What their wishes were no man could doubt. Their own first
a-et had been to do that which the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman now advised, to endeavour to the utmost of their
power io avert the evil from the Country and -front posterity,
by comet omisi.lg this unferoinate hardness. The Learned
Gentleman could no: but know that this was long ago their
Wish. Their eager acceptance of his offices to make the propo-
sitions to the Quern, was a proof of teeir anxiety to spare the
country this hateful task. But then the Learned Gentleman
accused them of having made-an oder so revolting to her Ma-
jesty's mind, and included things so incompatible with her
feelings, that he could not advise her to accept of it ; and the
Learned Gentleman also told them, or rather insinuated (he
wished he bed spoken more distinctly), that he could have pro-
posed certain modifications which,te thought, would have made
them acceptable. Why, in the name of Goa, did he not suggest
'then?—(Hear, hear.) Why, instead of the premature and gar-
bled statement which had found its way to the Public, were not
these modifications brought forward ?—(llear.) He wished
the Learned Gentleman were present (Mr..l3rougham had left
the House for a few minutes), for it was desirable, especially in
stating facts, that the party tnterested should hear them; but as
the Hon. Gentleman was not in his place, he would refer to an •
other part of the subject till his return. It appeared from the ac-
count of the proceedings last night, that certain other Gentle-
men bad made an allegation which the Learned Gentleman had
contributed to answer. It had been urged that the pecuniary
pSer was one which contained something censurable. Again
they had recourse to a dilemma, which though fair in argue
Intent, was quite false when applied to the affairs of human life ;
they said, either her Majesty is innocent, and ought to have all
the privileges of the, Queen ; or, she is guilty, and ought rot
to have the sum of £50,000 a-year settled upon her. 'this he
repeated was a false view of the question. He contended in
the first place, that the offer did not trench upon the rights of
Parliament; for Government only made it as they must
make every proposition for a grant of public money, subject to
the revision, and nothing without the sanction, •of Parliament.
He also hoped to be able to thew that this sum was precisely
what, under these considerations, they bad reason to believe
Parliament would approve of. Fifty thousand pounds wits the
jointure settled by the marriage contract of the Illustrious Par-
ties, and ratified by the House as a fit sum for her-maintenance
In the event of her surviving as Princess of Wales. Ministers,
.et woeld be confessed. could not go below that amount, for
the Queen, in a state of separation, which had been fixed
for the widow of the Prince of Wales. And again, in the
year 1814, when after a long investigation, her income was
Settled, the House had voted an annuity of 450,000, recognizing
~the jointure and the marriage contract by which it had been'
agreed upon. It was true that her Majesty had relinquished
£15,000 of this nun, but surely it could not be thought that
Ittluisters would have been right in taking advantage of her
own voluntary generosity on that occasion to limit the proposal
.now submitted td her. Acting on these considerations therefore,
reinisters had altered what it might be presumed from their
fern:et. proceedings, Parliament would sanction when again
broes'et before them for their approbation. But then, it w,.s
charged that this offer was coupled with conditions which ren-
dered it unlikely to be acceded to :—remaining abroad, one
of these, was undoubtedly premeditated, and it was, in fact,
perseieg that policy which had origitally induced the Queen to
thie couu:ry.—'l'heir endeavours in the present instance
bed been grievously frustrated—they were forced by what they
teed not master to bring the case to open discussion; and
he would say, this was the result of a disaepointmeat as un-
expected, as severe, and as anxiously shunted, as ever dashed
the cup of hope from the lips of any .Ministers'—( Mellrougham
having returned to his place, the Right Hen. Gentleman re-
re:zed his argument, which as it personally affected that Gen-
thenan, he left off when he noticed his absence.)--The Learned
Ger.tteman bad avowed his opinion, that the terms proposed
ec.--;:d not be assented to by her Majesty. He believed that the
Learned Gentleman had undertalen the mission to France
with as sincere a desire to bring it to a favourable result
as those who had sent hint. He wished to set out with this
Acknowledgment, which was his firm conviction, for what
followed was of a different complexion. If the Learned Gen-
e tleman saw objections so strong to the measure it was a pity—
( Neer, hear, hear!)--it was a pity that he did not -state them
before he set out. and the more so, as it seemed from his own
account that he did not wait for the expression of the Queen's
endignation, but at once expressed his own to her upon the sub.
)pct. .It was unfortunate, that of this indignant flame which
broke out in another country, no spark had been kindled in
his settee hand.—(Hear!)—Far his part he bad understood that
the Learned Gentleman went with a seasonable hope of success,
and he could assure the House, that wheel he (Mr. C.) returned
to town on Monday, and heard what was the result, no man
ever Mpetienced greater surprise, or a more severe disap-
pointment than he had done. The Learned Gentleman bad
acquitted Government of Nape in regard to the pecuniary part
of this transaction, but thought that the renunciation of the
tide of Queen could nor be hiked without offence ; and rejected
his Noble Friend's explanation of the nature of the sacrifice re-
paired. But be was sure the Learned Gentleman utast re-
. bee an explanation in the memoranda with which be was
Pelted that k was not the intention of cover:went to rob