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London, England, 1829-02-24 00:00:00

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es', an •,. •:ue•-• .r Is i•I ; Ile), c t
red' in Luudtru. anal such ocsnerences were frequent
in Ireland, where the Print close at the head of a
pa col of ilersoal ruined isito;a Sebald or meeting,
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and created riot and disturbance. He had teceived
letters from
in Ireland' informing him that this was the
plan which the Priests intended to pursue, and that
they .were determined in that *ay to knock up every
institution which was adverse tat them. He (Lord
itedenfale). as Borne of their Lordships wire aware. had
:enact! in Ireland, and knee a good deal of the bish
-chalsrtter, and be feared there was no great irm rose-
`went since he lei: Ireland. Notwithstandiag allthat he•
had heard; he witsfulty impressed with the opinion th rt
"thelrish were a quiet, peaceable people if lef' to them-
selves. The corm nual •inter ferenee of the Pe iests.however,
slid theda no service. He had known some of the most
Vespeftkbleambngst that cilia, and one of them Informed
trim that the liar li:intent of t country had made a
.neat insist:lkt in founding the College at Maynooth.
-15.-fore that College was established the Priests were the
leorldien of respectable persr4t anf. wee sent to Sala-
Imancs and el ewh, re for' education, where they re-
'ceiveri the education of Gentlemen, and mixed with
utlemen intended for r•rer professions. and where
they• were taught the nece.set y of a Government, and of
submissi• n to it. In the College of Maynnoth, however,
eduction was Otis. 'and the consenue..ce was, that a
number of persons of the lowest description were ad-
mitted amongst the Clergy. Porn' 41( the meanest
'extraction were brought up in this• College, and in tI
manner not likely to make them good subjects. This
view was confirmed by the information which he (Lord
Redesdale) had received from a variety of sooner. The
real Catholie.Gentry of Ireland no longer sent their sons
to the chinch or to the continent for education. There
Wei" 2,060 priests now in Ireland who bad received
their edocatton at Maynooth.. It was quite notorious
that these persons did not entertain verylairourable
feelings towards the' Govetnntent. He sincerely be-
lieved that the triests created much disturbance, and he
-med that there was no disturbance in which
not a priest at tt a bolom. The Roman Ca-
Gentry, be believed, would- concur with him in
about the peens. -They wets well aware
rete not treated by the priests in Ire'and as
Catholic. Gentry in other "countries were
ly their prie Formerly the younger sons of
Gentlemen were of:en the priests of the parish,
fathers o: , brothers being pal ishioneks, the.
kept up a connection with the Roman Ca-
;y. There was no such thing now in Ireland,
priesjts were persons of low extraction, and were
appointed for their own parishes for fear they would
he degraded tiy their low relations.. He (Lord R.) could
not clause the policy of sending. Priests to distant
parishes, bin the effect was very bad. It was tl.e cus-
tom formerly, too, in Ireland. to give the descendints of
those Roman Catholics whose estates were confiscated
the poster of nominating the Priest of the parish in
which the confiscated estate lay. This nrnaination kept
up a kind of connection lathe/ten the parish Priest and
the Gentry, but it had been done away of late years,
and the.consequence was, that a very great separation
had taken place between the Priesthood and the Gen-
try. As the country•was now circumstanced it was
not
.possible, perhaps, so give any thing like a power of
presentation to the Roman Cath,lic Gentry ; but it
monist be very desirable if any inarfrof connection could
baler's:Sp. bet wets the Priest and the'Gentrys Some
poi it 104 thsteof nominating the parish Priest existed
in every Roman Catholic country in Europe. and even
in this eountry. The mansequence of the change which
had taken plate in Iretind vat. that thePaiest'ved were
. coinpoWlof perions veridiffetent from' those who for-
merly belonged tolhat demand tbat they-now belonged
to persons. of the lowest class. -When he (Lord Redes-
dale) was in Ireland, it was his duty, officially,. to visit
Maynooth; -and hiecnsitrinit eat, that if that establish-
ment'wes permitted" to continue, it should be 'under',
very different regolateoos. If the meanant now- under
consideration passed, it would be the duty of every one
to endeavour to preset vegood order in Ireland— (Hear).
That was the great thing wanted. If-not urged on by
persons who meant mischief, he believed the Is isb would
be a sober and tranquil pelvis. • He could mention
many instances of,tbe good disposition of-the people....
(The Noble Earl here became evidently affected. H.]
sail his recollections of Ireland overpowered hi" sad
he sat down in deep feeling).
Viscount LORTON begged, anatt- Irish resident,' to
rifer his testimony in' corroboration of what bad just
fallen from his Noble and Learned Friend (Lard Redes-
dale). He assured their Lordships" that the Irish Priests
were opposed to the improvement-of the-people in every
branch of edecitintr, ant adverse lathe 'British Govern.,
mentin everything.
Lord REDESDALE begged their Lotdships pardon
for. withdrawing so abruptly; he bad just recollected
an instance of the affection of his own workmen, whilst

in Ireland. and they were illitoman Catholics (Heari,
The Earl of WICKLOW was well acquainted with
Ireland, and could iISSOft, tbeit'LUedships that,
some persons amongst she- Catholic priesthood
mops, well disposed, generally the Irish priesthood wen
atorderly and well disposed body of men as any in the
Kings dominions., It was-impossible. foe his (Leek
Wicklow) to know the nstureof the greatasaasnre
odder cOnsiderationibin belied nd dottbrtharwhen. that
measure Was sorictioned by Parliansenteltaiipassed into
a law, the Roams Catholics would be found as loyal
and well disposed as any other persons • •
The Mart/nisi ot•Dawrtsams concurred in 'all
that had fallen from the 1019b4 Lord who had just
addressed the House. Taw Iriih Nesthood were gee
nerally cur& regulated, prelim; mid valuable alms of
salmi,: -liar they had,* dillicaltiatt, considering the
iuintenie Population they had looting vp to thetn, and
16 inferior degree of improvement at which that pO.
pnlation had arrived as compared with this country.
Hitherto' 'they' *ere excluded • subjects, end' great al-
lowericet shOold be made fur their falling into error;
airier)* he was convicced- they -would now reject as
hiKirlylespiroper and unbecoming ; and, isherstbey were
- to a participatiouln the Onwiritatiort, treshad
. that the Priests and the population would
Ilienrullves faith's), Irryal,end de.ser lap •I.
'ltspwrwas'eliss receive*, sod ordered so be road meant

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Mr..PLAatTA antivedthat a errs Writ be iwuel for a Member
Parliament for the borough of Westbskry,Jektien room de
JISE nveed this lamt mat be issued ter a Member
'ottani-at fer Newarli-upes.Tien4 is flicteellt et Mt
, aitstia..-00ciel. ~• .. , .• • • • --C4* 1.11;
,EY presented Petitioniapinst the.Cditek ads'
t'e4 dr Tplitttel autl,Allllbay, and from the Remy
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