Star.
London, England, 1829-05-05 00:00:00

.theditidelthimi la which I am staled ft limo placed the Kings
" I raked* ease of Mr. O'Gorman Mahon :—Mr. Mahon wont
to Ennis, where a ~dog, called by ebb High Sheriff of the totehty
of Clare, and attended by a considerable number of Magistrates;
bad voembled for the purpose of fanning a Brunswick Chip.
" Mr. Mahon's intentioo (as I have been told) was to appear er
the meeting and to oppose the project. He presented himself at the
door, end sesirrefeyed Wathrsoth.
•' The High Sheriff and the Magistrates having apprehended that
thit :bleeder stitjht create Illotithinece, called in a military force.
" One subaltern, two sergeants. and 33 rank and Ale moved from
Ciaiiremlifi,dlitint aboutthree miles. • One Captain, one subaltern,
tarp orients, one drummer, and 30 rank and ells. marched frost
Tulle, distant about twelve miles.
a No riot..eneeed ; the detachments were dismissed, and while
thip Were filing foto the gad yard *Minh the Cuoversation took
plass between Mr. Mabee, sod, the °dicer commanding the deur:b-
ine*" aro Witch the aiddavits were founded, and with which you
are..l helleve, acquainted.
" It deems you dieaPprove of my not having directed the Chan-
cellor to dismiss Mr. Makes from the magistracyln consequence of
his indethreus deeded ipso they ;might. %dermas It certainly
wig; but I deem that if I had viiiiediteith the severity
.of dis-
nitwit I should have been guilty tan set of unjueddable Wanes&
" It was'tke opinion of the law'oldeers thee this breach of deft-
rem was not indictable. It was that of the Mane** that, Mile,
dePoslelosi uPotioatle had hien kat to him, be csdd pot legally
Italie . acted upon it. Woe what ground, then, woothl the Lord
lieutenant have abed if; in opposition to their °Oak*: Wilma
have 'determined upon the dhsoissal of Mr. Mahon?
" I beg lea, here to quote a case wanweshat in poke—
" During the government of the Marquis Wellesley the Law OM.
c.f• gave atr opinion that procesilods said meetings, Inch as those
of .trrangemen, were illegal. Tbh opinion wag cotheitelkated to
the. Magistrates. There was as Orange meeting Is the eousty of
Monaghan afterwards. A Magistrate. of the name of Jam**
rode "up to the multitude with an orange ribbon in his batteries's•
lie was received with cheers: A complaint wasniade agate beak
He stated that ids object wag to get the people $i dhpesie The
matter was referred by the Lord Liniment tiielle.Chothaller
(Manners), and it was not thought a case for *wawa - .motion
wiz made upon the subject in the House of Conlivons, belsigi W.,
MeV' Ittirinitow, and the then Attorney General defended the Chan-
ced*. it being a case entirely for his discredon.
" To return to Me. Mahon: If his condo* waseensurab;7hat
was that of the High Sheviff and ache mho Magistrates, line
weie they to. be dent with?
" Is It legal to call a meeting for a political purpose that is solar
likely to eidanger a health of the peace that the very' Sheriff wive
calls it, and who presides et it, feels it necessary to protect himself
with the King'. troops?
" After the most mature deliberation and tonsukation. I could
not brinnivself to exert such an act of authority as the dismissal
of Sir. Mahon; sad, upon further rated*, I do not repent of
the decision to which I came. I think k was just; and lam sins
it .gas expedient.
" I cannot think it would tend to the honour of the liing'sCrown
and dignity that' his representative should the cause of a
errs*
Sheriff againstu Magistrate, Irehrevir the latter may be,
when the very error into which helves was produced. if not by
an illegal. at all events by a very equivocal, act of the Sheriff him.
self. The meeting was, In fact, called for a purpose not known to
the Ciinstitution.
" OfMr. Steel I know nothing batty common repo*. I do not
doubt that upon some occasion be used the words imputed to him,
6 Teat he adjured his auditors, by their allegiance cache Catholic
Association. to be tranquil.'
- 6' Tba"roeitber be nor Mr. O'Gorman Mahon are fit characters
for the niegirerial bench I anti birthed to believe ; but up to this
Period there is' no fact stating then that would justify the Lord
Chancellor in removing them from it.
"'lie imputation against Mr. Steel to which you allude has. I
should'obsetve *ter been'deposed to.
" You rib 61Tiannot egret' to you ademiately the extent of the
diflicuitiesWidet these and other oreurrages in' Ireland crease in
all discussions with his Majesty. He Peek that lb Ireland the pedals,
peace is .faulted every day with impunity by those whose duty her
to preserve•ii ; and that the supposed principal conspirators, those
*loge labgiese metals tbeniout as the avothd principal agitatosta
of the etisitiry, are adthitted to the presence of Mil Maleeey's repress
evocative in Ireland, and equally will received with the King's Mesa
loyal subjects.'
0 It is certainly the duty of the Magistrates to preserve, not to
violet...-. die peace. Would to' Goo' they all acted ipso this with
ciple !* Mr. Mahon and MY. Steel are, no doubt, *it Magistrate&
No mar Cat violent pointed and religloitOprejibicescie be considered
as lit imp..rtial Justice of the Peace; but I teeny do not knew' of
these persons at conspiratory sir am I at all aware at the formidable,
etnispitael of width you speak. .
" I never saw these Gentlemen in my Ste; acid I perceives*
deny that the avowed principal agitators. or that any aohasere
whatever of the country, ' are admitted into my presence, and
equally wcU received with the King's moat loyal subjects.' But to
whom can you possibly allude ? I positively am enable to guess at
•your meaning. Is it of Messrs. O'Connell. Steel, Lawless. O'Ger.
man blab*, and Steel, of wboen you speak? Theft I can easily
dispose of. Air. Shia and the two latter I have never seen. Mr.
O'Connell once asked ad audience—it was vatted. I mentioned
the cis centstance to Mr. Peel even before it occurred, and I after-
wards ioturined him of the business upon which he Caine, and 1
base never seen him since. I have seen 111 r. Lawless three times.
Upon the Incs occasion be came with a deputed* of manufacturers
within a few days after my arrival Duet *et him at a bail at
the Rotunda; and bowed to him, as I invariably do to all persons
who make me an acknowledgment. It was in a very crowded room
at Kingstown that I met him I third time, when observing bins and
Sir Harcourt Lees Squeised together and unable to pass on, I
jokingly slid, • that 11 was ghid to observe such characters could
breathe in the sante atmosphere.' My next and last comniunka
tioa Witt that Gentkatan was sending to have him arrested.
" Macomb what channel hie Majesty can We obtained the it
formation telephoned by you I am at a loss tepees.
" To show how entirely his Majesty leas been misinformed, I
have deemed it right to enter into an explanation of otearrenthe
that I should otherwise have considered tee trivial to Doti*.
" The next subject of reproof is. that I, useether with the Lord
Chancellor; paid "'lilt to Lord Mihail. When I went to his
house all I knew of him was, that he *is an active and *Midge*
laisglitrate, in ardent loiter of Ireland. an indefatigable suppertet
of bar interests, and i sealers related to Catholic liniancipation.
" During the time I was at Lying (his residents) I bathed he
earlier history. That he had been Strongly suspected of Jacob'oism
at the commencement of the French lleetelatinn—tblet he had boas
invested upon suspicion of being implicated in Otimieur's trouble
—that be had bet* liberated for want St probe—bet that he bad
been subsequently sent tit the Tower epee the easpenaios Of the
Habeas Cdtpus Act, lions *hence he bed heel leggin liberated
without trial, and therefore I have a right to suppose witheitguilt.
" Lord Cioncierry hall Within a fee day'. SWAIM the Catholic
Association. This is the first tin* be has dote *note My arrival;
and a little is be in the habit of attending that I yeskitoly did mot
know until I saw his speech that be belonged tolls ustelation.
But with what view did he go there unen h late **oleo ? To
Soweto, if possible. one of the most poritelbes istiglitiem that
comb' have been pamedi and that the taw teen Mit teuelia4 Meth
the auo:intercourse system. Wattle elselly to eidettil,he bettweer
effected the postpahement of the lerithen, kid is Otheigins end*.
inure to haw it set aside. lam &shuns that post bliould notice
the drift 01 his observafiges.
"6 From all chat I eta learn, and from nil that I have seen, I
believe Laid Cemetery to bee sedate too subject, mid use of the
best and most impartial Magistrates of Ireland.
" If those who arraign my conduct will obtain information frost
an untainted source, 'I het the MOM Omega confidence that I obeli
obtain 'the applause of my Sovetrign.and Ow good opinion sud good
will of his Majesty's Minioers with whom I serve.
6' I am willing, and indeed extremely anitiousOo put my mea-
sures to any test, being fully satisfied that the more they arc loves.
dieted the mire fairourably they will be *sod, sue I have the
strongest conviction upon my mind that tile theme I bate pursued
is that alone which could have kept thisasertitry in the state Cat haw
lathy that it nowsinjois.
" There is a cry that the Government has lost its power—that the
4lews are set at debance—itbat the Catholic Asesdation le* usurped
the reins of Government. .
" I dewy the facts. I as** tbst the law is in full olgoor—thst
there a
_pouting within the law that may not at this monseue be
effected with .perfect facility. Let it be snows that the law *lbw
ribei,iind shit eppedieucy demands, the suppreseion of the Cab, °'.
Assocliteem, and of the Brunswick Clubs,'llys, and the Aimed*
the yetetonsny et the,same time; and I will itadertake tovArot it
Almost without luas of life.
.4, rintrit that the power of the Covetabsetat is-uninspahed, we
enhistanding.the insidious efforts that are out only publicly, bet
privately Inking to undervalue.atid'undennioe it hie every sinister
purosees.
".I hove stated what .1 conceive the power 4 the GOMTOMMit
to be. I Jim
.not prepared to say that it would be expedient to
twit it at this moment. On the cannery. my policy has been, and
sirtll coitioile to he,. whilst I am left bete, to avoid the collision Si'
patties ley:every possible means short of compromising the honour
of Ciovcrioneut..
ta I 414,4eire, (grievance, the teasing systemof attacking every
moor figfece of which the issue, op* trial, would.be deubtful.aad
,wnich is iieWe to procurer iiritation, whiting dint** a salute*
iesotin and permanent good.
" i would not recommend spy attempt to put down the Cab*
Associate* wader the exisiltis law. because that body has berellete

lasted for many years (pet of that time even during the cabmen
of a law passed for the express.perpoerol its suppressiou)..whda
no recedt weighty, cience •caaJbe urged against its pipailtiViliet
to filch has not heretofore octeurred,msd been overlooked.
" It lemtins foe me Dewy* to add,- that I have no objeotill
hold* my present psalm tharie pleasing my King and seven&
my conntry.
" II; in way milks aod loweastuffelMrts.to effect the lattma.l
Incur the displeasure of the Klag, and lose the confidence of his
Majesty's Servants, there cannot be a doubt that I ought not to
remain in Ireland.
" To whatever decision the King• sad his Majesty's Ministers
may come with respect to the .petty to be adopted in future
towards this counny,tit Majesty may possibly feel the medium.
of making a thanes in the Government of Ireland. I, therefore,
request that you will offer to his Majesty my humble and dutiful
assurances that, in such an cease, it will be my meet ensigns wish
to facilitate this measure, by meeting hie Majesty's whites loth*
manner the least embarrassing bob as to time,. to masser, and
circumstances. But if, on the contrary, it should bible Rbyel
pleasure, that I should have the honour of still remaining as his ,
Representative I will faithfully and Jealously COGIIIIIINt any eat-
dons to maintain the henoer, the dignity, and the stability of the
Government which has been entrusted to me.
" I am, my dear Doke of Wellington,
" Yours very sincerely.
(Signed) " ANG LESKY.
To his Grace the Doke of Wellington, K. G. lec."
I will now read to you his Grace's reply to this letter ;
it is dated November 19:

" London, Nov. 19, 1 ete.
1, MT MAIL Loafs Auotasu—l did not receive till yesterday
your ktter of the 14th, in answer ti mine of the 11th. Toe tell
me that you have, ' up to that moment, been left entirely its
ignorance, not only as to my intentions in regard to Irides'. Mgt
akin as to my sentiments in regard to your policy. -
0 I thought that ethos your appointment to the esevelasnsant ei
Ireland there had been the most unreserved commotion** tithe
opinion of the King's servants u to the practical coarse tete pun. 1
seed under the various contingencies that have arises. asearaues
given of the most cordial support throughout any dilkultles that
might occur, and of a willingness to bear the full limes of any
resperiwitillity. I
_," PaYingont of the question -your sentiments upon the Roman ,
Caabillistresdea, which have no connexion with discussluos arising
mat birreilr ildlidnietration of the Government, I beg to remind
'polrtket I Oiler*, to you some time age on that subject. 1
• **Whatever may be the determination of the King and his ser= 1
temsispon that subject, it is the duty of the Government of Ire-
se enrolee thetzisting law; and there can be no intention in
L to legislation; nor any state of circumstances in Ireland. to
-ON observations in my letter to you of the I ith inst. would
nor hie spplienbls.
" I paidutly reetilltect that you did declare that you meant to
administeetbe laws with the strictest impartiality; and that the
fullest assent was given by those who beard yew, sod le still given,
to that principle:of goverstateut. But it must be observed that it
is no sew principle of government in the administration of affairs
is Ireland. Yee are like mistaken if you suppose that you are the
Int Lord Limstensos who has governed Ireliod with an impartial
hand.
" Admitting, as Ito fully, that the Government 11( Ireland ought
to be administered with impartiality. I assert that there is sea •
line in my letter to you of the 11th inst. which is inconsistent with
such admission; ow are my opinions as to the conduct of Mr.
°Tromso Mahon and Mr. &eel, and the expediency of removing
thou Gentlemen from the race of Justice of the Peace, nor those
which I expressed upon matters rather more of personal conducts
at variance with the opinion which I expressed in your room its 1
February last, sod still most decidedly express, that the law in Ire.
land ought to be resolutely and impartially administered.
" In respect to Mr. Mahon you say it would not tend to the
honour of the King's Crown that his representative in Ireland should
espouse the cause of the Sheriff against a Magistrate, however cal.
pable the latter may be.
" I don't defend the cuss of the Sheriff and of the Magistrates
assembled at Ennis. Their conduct may have been very unwise, bet
was Mr. Mahon jusilledhs taking upon himself to correct others ht
authority/ Was it decorous conduct In him (bearing the Meg%
Commission) to address himself as be did to the Mims se thermal
in the premises of she tamp, in ahem of the conduct of the High
Sheriff for calling them hem their quarters? I am the more coos
Silent in my own 'globe ups this subject because it agrees with
that held by the I,kb 010/111111.10t. They received the written re.
ports of the conduct et Mr.lllshou i EA instead of their &MON
that k would bast seat to the hearse of the Kings Crown that she
King's Representative shade not espouse the cause of the Old&
they called for dsjuiskises open oak. For what? Bemis* Ike
affair appeared to them, as it did and does now to me, to be of

imporunce.
" But when thesween depositions cosanned the written reports,
it was found that the Sheriff had not acted wisely, and that Mr.
aGormao Mahon ought to be supported in his correction of that
(Acerb I cannot consider this sobs the policy to which I assented.
'• But the papers which I have read upon this subject, transmitted
by the Government of Ireland, infant us that Mr. O'Gorman
Mahon sod Mr. Steel appeared that day in Ennis, decorated by
the order of the Roman Catholic Associate°, in green ribbon, sod
followed by $ mob. The occasion was one on which, wisely or other-
wise, the High Sheriff and the other Magistrates had assembkd at
Ennis to form a Brunswick Club ; and the troops bad been brought
to the town to prevent a riot. Was this cooduct in Mr. O'Gorman
Mahon and Mr. Steel that of men in whose judgment and discredits,
as dealers of the Peace, the Lord Lieutenant or the Lord Chan.
cellor of Ireland can place any reliance ?
You hove not noticed this (act in your answer to my letter.
" In respect to 31r. Steel, in addition to his conduct in Ennis
and that with which I see gam he has been charged, viz. marching
with a mob at his heels through the most disturbed districts of the
counties of Limerick and Tipperary, from chapel to chapel, to
harangue the people, be has been charged with the act of conjuring
a mob, by their allegiance to the Roman Catholic Association, to
remain tranquil. Is the fact true or otherwise? If there h a doubt
inquiry ought to be made either by the Lord Chancellor or the
Government; and if the fact turns out to be true, I am convinced
that there is no man who will say that Mr. Steel's name ought to
continue in the commission of the peace, whether kis conduce be
attributed to folly, insanity, or disaffection; or that the King's Re-
pressetative con be accused of partiality tor urging the Lord Chan-
cellor to remove him.
" It never has been the practice in Ireland to confine removals
frost the commission of the peace to cases in which indictable
offences have been committed: The atom' danger to the peace of
the country might be the consequence of ks being understood that
Justices of the Yeace were irresnottableido what acts and bold what
language they stay, provided only that they steer clear of an in-
dictidge effente.

se I lielMelid, then, that it cannot be deemed inconsistent with
the Out wanly impartial atintinistratioa of the Government of
Irehmd to notify to persons who have conducted themselves as
blt. O'Gorman Mahon sod Mr. Steel have for the last mood's,
that the King bad no Unbar occasion for their services as Justices
el the Peace.
" In r•spect to Lord Cloncerry I did net advert to his former
Meaty, only to his being a member of the Romeo Catholic *nod.
adept and to his having attended the Association shortly after the
lad Lieuteinut and the Lord Chancellor had honoured him with
%Visit. In answer you tell me that he went there for the perm,
Id discouraging the system propo.ed of not dealing with Protes-
tants. His object in going there is very little to the purpose; but,
having referred to the newspaper report, I see that it expressly
states that Lord Cloncurry retired from the meeting before the
discussion about dealing with Protestants came on. Ile made a
'speech, however, in the Associatiots that day, which I will not
copy, as this letter is already too lung, but which, to say the least
of it, is wonlirof en agitator and of a partisan, tut quite unworthy
+4 a •Nobleman who deserves the honour of receiving the Lord
Lieutestant sod the Lord Chancellor at hie house—a Lord Lies.
tenant and Lod Chancellor presiding over an impartial *yenta of
Government.
" But I ;till am of opinion that, considering the .'.duet of the
Association, the speeches which have bees made there, and the
doubts entertained of the legality of each am assembly (to say the
least of it), the members of it are not exactly the persons to be es.
twanged by the Government of Ireland which Intends to conduct
its administration impartially.
" I will net now eater farther into the discussion of the legality
of the Roman Catholic Association, oe whether there is or not a
conspiracy in Ireland. Upon the lint point I hope we shall soon
have the opinion of the Law Olken of the Crown in Ireland,
called fur some time ago. I admit that there is but little kgal proof
of the nineties ot the conspiracy ; but there is much moral proof,
which I cannot bet think deserves tbe attendee of Government.
I. It is perfectly sue that tall had occasion to write to you, on
she 11th inst. respecting Mr. Mahon and Mr. Steel, I did net
mention to you the King's feelings upon affairs in Ireland. I did
'not 40 so, because I was In hopes that, in the progress of nests,
the King might see moon to change his opinions; and' becaustrk
is really very -paitiful to notice matters whirl would be of a private
stature if they had not a bearing as public affdrs. I might have,
at an earlier period, repressed the pain I felt attic attendance of
'Gentlemen of your Household, and even Of your Family, at thit
Roman Catholic Asiticiation. could out but feel that sub
attriedance must term /ear Government to misconstruction. But
1 was silent, became it is rabbit to notice each things. Bet I have
always fek that if these impressions upon the King's mind should
reareip, and I mot say that recast traniaittions have given fresh
canoe fottheni, I could trot avoid to ;liiimden them to you In a
Waste oemmoolcades, and W lei pa AWN! the anbattassotent

whisk they =Woo. I may be blamed for not ennwavanitating
.M 111.367 tamed; but, cun4dorino. ek.k......a...
. dge renewed moo for .t 1
roweliftri 41141 not memban tbenado
" Ever, qw sior 14r4
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All kier.
Yaw most afipeorely,,
(S) . •4 WELA.INOXONI"
T. tbis letter fromthe Mkle .Duke I wrote the fol-
lowing reply."...

" Phanix Park, November 23, 19211.
s' Ole .Dzaa Deimos Wlll.l.lltOTOll-1 have received your letter
of the 19th. It is oetneeessary that I should reply to it at great
length, for after very carefully examining and comparing it with
that of the Iltb, I lied Witte la it beyond a repetition of accusation
already amply answered and refuted.
" I have aka attentively read the copy of nay letter of the 14th,
and thete is trot in it • sentiment expressed. or a word written, to
erhich• Ido not strictly adhere. I will merely observe, that in re-
presenting my ignorance of your intentions with regard to Ireland,
I could only allude to your future policy. bye knowledge of which
I might have )een mainly misted; for, although it la quits cleat that
a country must be *framed by rusting laws. yet it may be well
thought to be a question of expediency to what extent they are to
be exercised; and Iwo the Governor becomes respoosibk, and I
have not been at all desirous of shrinking from the responsibility.
" To all topics, then, that are treated of in your Ent letter, and
which am repeated in that of the 19th, it would be superfluous to
reply.
" I now proceed to she new matter contained in your last letter.
" You say' that I ant mistaken if I suppose that lam the first
Lord Lieutenant who has governed Ireland with an impartial
band.' I really suppose no such thing, and lam sere there is not
any expression in my letter that will bear that coostruction.
" In truth, I need only go back to the last administration of Ire-
land—to the Governmeut of the Marquis Wellesley—co discover
that ' mine is nqt a novel mode of
" I observe in every publis act of Lord Wellesley, not merely
the intention, but the fulfilment of that principle of governing.
" In answer to what you observe regarding the conduct of the
Irish Government upon the. affair of Mr. O'Gorman Mahar it
Ennis, I can only say,tbat it seems to ma to have bees entirely cam-
, sistent.
" The report of his conduct brat reached it through the ordiagry
channels of communication. It was thought of sufficient Cosset*
queoce to require a deposition upon crib. This was furnished It
etas deliberately considered. and, in concurrence with the upini so
of the Lord Chancellor, I did net think fit to take any measure upon
It. The propriety of this decision is matter of opinion. I retain mine.
"That the mere circumstance of Mr. Mallon and Mr. Steel
riding about the country in green ribbons is to be considered sold
I cent to justify their dismissal irons the magistracy I cannot admit.
Have they appeared upon the seat of ju-tice with these party
colours? No. When they do the Chancellor will know how to
deal with them. _ _ _

•I In the case I quoted .1 Mr. Johnston, who, decorated with an
orange ribbon, setsially harangued a mob (cud that immediately
afar the passing of an Act, now mince in which party badges
were forbidden), tiseCliancellor Manners did not feel himself justiied
'is taking any step.
* In regard to Mr. Steel there is DO doubt that he has been at.
Wading various Chapels, and haranguing the congregations. I
have directed a particular inquiry to be made for the purpose of
obtaining authentic information as to the expressions to which you I
allude; and the attention of the law officers will be called to the
subject, when I shall consider, and confer, as I did, in the case of
Mr. Mahon, sod inform you of the result of my decision.
" I bavelittle to add to what I lave already said concerning Lord I
Cloncarry. I believe him oohs a loyal subject, a good man, and an
exemplary Magistrate; and I cannot consent to abandon the exercise
of my own discretion in selecting them with whom I may deem it
expedient mad pendant to bold an intercourse. lint. ewes if I were
mistakes in thecharacter of my Lord Osocurry, and that he is net
what I suppose him tube, lam sure shall not be thought arrogant
In raptesaing a movie** that titers issoosetking in my own cha.
recta, and in my well-known, devoted, and affemioate attachment
to the King, which ought to shield me from this imputation of haw
ins selected and encouraged as acquaintance 'bow who are Ul affected
this Majesty's person and Government.
" I have, in fact, been most most anxious to India., as far ao
my humble faculties would permit, the example of his •
himself during his visit to Ireland, sod have scrupulously
to the King's benign and paternal adnimitiao, when kb
quitted this kingdom, to Inculcate good fellowship and
aarttell classes, and to promote conciliation.
, observation upon the circumstance of my sow, and of sow
of the WIWI 44 my emt.visiting the-Catholic Association, has beet
sod steepened ma
" A &sit 'lmo Ow my arrival three or four of them strayed
into their from curiosity. They were usiespecwd,
and Ow obey were uosbeerved. They were, however.
minglemi. senerreoce was mischievously commented imam
I adonedebod dies not to repeat their visit, and to avoid all Mho
ennweekp a a political character, and it cost them nothing maw
ihe hijuneelon. Yet this is remarked upon as a nob ors moos IF
I had sonetimed the measure.
"Ito letter I wrote to Mr. Lamb upon the occasion would show
inMiende dint I disapproved of it ; although I certainly did not
OM& that Importance to it you appear to think it deserved.
el I observe that )ou consider our late painful carrespondenesaa
pdiste ; yet the subjects are chicly of a public character.
'• You certainly have the power of considering it so or not; but
I men reserve to myself the some liberty, if it should hereafter
bemuse aseeessry for my justification; and I sincerely believe that
I ewe justify every act. Nay, I will even go farther, and express
my convietioo that, it the King had the same opportunity that I
Am* of witoeselog the prompt state of the country, his Majesty
would be saddled that a sound and prudent policy had bees ens
embed.
" Believe me, my dear Duke of Wellington,
" Very sincerely yours,
(8111130 d) " ANGLESEY.
" To his Grace the Doke of Wellington, K. G."
My Lords, I must hem observe, my conviction is,'
that the conduct of the Noble Duke has arisen front
ignorance ol the real state of affairs in Ireland. I can-
not believe that, under any circumstances, the Nubip
Duke would have applied such terms us he has applied
to Lord Cloncurry, who, the Noble Duke should be
aware, during the King's visit to 'hat country. actually
dined at his Majesty's table. The tact is, that Lord
Cloncursy, feeliug that he had been unfairly dealt
with in having been twice accused without having
been once tried, had formed a determination not to
'appear at Court while hi: Majesty resided in Ireland.
This was reported to his Majeny, who de=iced his
attendance, and the result was, that Lord Csoncuiry,
not only dined at the King's table, but with him Upon
all public occasions while these, and Irspecially with
the Corporation of Dublin. But, say Lords, the Cacho.
lic Association of Ireland was in Ireland considered a
lion; scarcely a single individual visited tie country
who did not immediately go these. They went to the
Corn Exchange with something of the same feeling with
which people went to Exeter *Change here, and, I be..
liese, often with the same expectation, that of be.
boldiog wild beasts. My Lords, I now come to that part
of my conduct which requires the greater explafiatioss,
because upon this more error has existed than upon any
other; and this explanation will, I conceive, show to his
I'Majest es Ministers that I am not so culpable as they may,
have been led to imagine. I entertained no doubt, wbes
I received the first letter from the Noble Duke, of its
being his Majesty*: intention that 1 should be recalled,
and when the second letter arrived I was, of course, con-
'firmed in this opinion. Yet, after five weeks had elapsed,
and I beard no more of the matter. I contras it was my
impression, and that of others in communication with
me, that the storm bad blown over, that the case had
been me- con.idered. and I did then entertain the hope
that it would be my happy destiny to turn over that
part of the kingdom to Parliament in a state of repose
equal to that which it now enjoys. But, my Lords, at
thecommencement of the sixth week, I received from
be Noble Duke a letter announcing my recall. This
letter I will read; it is dated the 28th of December:
Loaders, December 1111, 1111111.
" Mr wan Loa. Arstmer—l hem been very sensible, since
Ureeeivad your last letter, that the correspondence which that
hatter terminated has left us fns Maine towards earl other which
ought not to exist between the Lord lieutenant and the King's
Manor, and mold not madam to exist without great incases-
Asa had Injury to the King's service.
' " I refrained from acting opus this (alias till I should be able
to monk with my colleague, and I took the wheat (moor-
unity which the return to town of these who were ahem afforded
twobtale their opinion, which concurred with my own.
Uhda than detantetillieesdpviog taken Use King's pleasure

upon the subject, his Majesty has desired we to loftiest Too dig
he intends to relieve you from the Govesiusoot of Ireland.
I will shortly notify tee arreoptoents whir& will beam*
necessary in consequence.
" Believe me ever yours, most 'Meer*,
(Signed) " WELLINGTON:
g To his Excellency the Marmite of Auglesey, E.G. &c. ate. Ste.
U.s the Stith of December 1 forwarded to the Nab!,
Duke the following reply
" Ptimals.Parl, Dec. 30. ISt&
" Mr Daaa Duce or Waccessageni-1 have received your letter
of the Seth. informing me of the King's intention *relieve me from
the government of Ireland.
" I will hold myarli in readiness to obey his Majesty's commie&
the moment I shall receive the*.
Etesita• me tour! mest,sfeeerety.
. (Signed) a ANG
To his Grace the Duke of Wellington. K.G.
14.. w, my Lords, I will say that, if the matter bad:
terminated here, your Ltirdships would never have beet
troubled by me in reference to it, brews., I am per.
(wetly sec sable of the King's prerogative, and that his
Majesty has an undoubted sight to recall or to appoint
wh imsoever be pleases to the Government pi that:
country; and although I might have felt that them had
been some errot—although I might have bees evitweds
'that there had been no do er investigation, a single
wotdao.the Wm of complaint had not escapedainsa,
me; but. my .Lirds, a. this recall was followed,,
one of the I.tiougest 'apts.& ever offered to a public.
tifficer. I hare thought it right, in justice to Myself, to
your Lelrddiips, and to the public, that you shou:d be•
enabled to ascestain how far 1 hive deserved it. Mr
Lo'rds, I will now .read to you a letter 1 received how
the Hoene Secretary, dated.Januat y 10. 1829--
" Whitehall. Jan. 10, Isla.
" liar Loan—it is my duty to acquaint your Esceueucy chit*,
Majesty's Govenwnent have taken lute their consideration a litter
which has beau published iu the newspapers. purporang tai base
bees eddressed by your Excellency to the Revs lk, Curtis, of the
autbeuticity or Which there tan be no question.
" It appeals to hi. llaje.ty'e Gulerument that. in addressing•
that letter to Dr. Corti.. your Excellency acted in a manner In-
consistent with your duty.as his Majesty's Representative in Ire.
land. sod they lave advised his Majesty to *ltaly his pkastore te '
your Eacelkocy that you should velum to Umlaut. placii4
Government of Ireland for the Frew* in the hands et Liege
Justices.
" I enclose his Majesty's warrant. authesizing your Excereacy
to coustivate the Lord Primate. the Lot.' Chancellor, and tee taw-
nhander in the troops in Ireland, to be his Majesty's justices aurae
Excelleney's absence, or until his Majesty's farther pledgers be
bit/Wheel. And lam to convey to your Excelleacy his Majesty's
commands that their appointment may take place accordiegly.
" 1 lave the balletic to be, with greet truth and respect,
" My Lord. Sec. at..
(Signed) ROBERT PEEL
" To his Euellency the Lord Lieutenant, E.G. ate."
I u this letter. I sent use following reply—
.. Phanis Park, Jan. 14.
" a—l kave received your letter of the loth January, notifying
to me that his Majesty's Gevernment had taken into their coosidera.
ton a letter which had been published in the newspapers, purport*
to have been addressed by me to the Rev. Ik. Cuttis—that it
appeared to his Majesty's Government that in writing that letter
to Dr. Curds I had acted in a manner iota's*** with my duty es
Me Majesty's eepreeeetative in Ireland—and that they had advised
his Majesty to signify his pleasure to me that I should return to
ibegland. placing the Government of Ireland, for the present. is
the hands of Lords Justices, and enclosing to me his Majesty's
warrant, authorising ow to constitute the Lard Primate, the
Lord Chancellor. and the Commander of the traipse* be his
Majesty's Justices in my absence, or until his Majesty.•• farther
pleasure be signified.
" In consequeticeM the Duke at Wellit9gton'sktter tome dais
Seth December, Intoned,' me that he was sensible that a mrte-
spoodence which had taken place between Isle Grace and me hat
left us in a relation towards each' ether which seeks not to amt
between the Lord Lieutenant and the Minister, and that he
colleagues concurred in that *skin, sod that, having taken Ms
Majesty's pleasure upon the subject, Ms Majesty had desired has
Grace to infers me that be intended to relieve ale tram the Go.
vernment of Ireland, I informed his Grace, by my letter of the
30th December, that I would hold snyeelf in mediates to obey his
Majesty's commands tae moment I should receive them.
" It is, therefore, only necessary for me now to state, fortieth.
farstatkin ow his Majesty's Goverment, that I have given the not
directions f the appeintiame of Leeds Justices, in shed
dime to his Majesty's commands, width* I shall forthwith repair
Iftbris
0, 1 have the Meow to be, with truck and regard. Sic,
" Your most obedient and faithful garnet.
(Signed) " ANGLESEY.
" To the Right Hon. Robert Peel, Su. ace.*
Now, my Lords, it is necessary that I should state in
your Lordship:—and what I do state shall be by so
means exaggerated—what was the state of public feel.
ing in Ireland on being acquainted with my recall from
the government of that country. My Lords, the letter
written by me to Dr. Curtis was on the 2Sd December,
my recall being dated on the 28th of that month. That
lever was perfectly private and confidential; and it wgs
an answer to that from Dr. Curtis, which conveyed one
from the Noble Duke at the bead of his Majesty's Go-
vernment, of an earlier date. So desirous was I that
this letter of mine should not meet the public eye, bet
produce its effect (which I had no doubt it would do) •
quietly and unostentatiously. that I marked upon it the
winds "private and confidential; arid. taking a lemon
from what had been neglected by the Noble Duke iu his
corresp 'admit with Dr. Curtis, I wrote the words pris
vale and confidential" upon my letter, which the Noble
Duke had omitted from his. This letter I did not myself
frank; I caused it to be franked by my Secretary, and
also wrote a letter informing Dr. Curtis that this cow
niunication was to be considered not that of the Lord
Lieutenant, but that of a private individual. But, my
Lord., with reference to she effat of my recall upon the
public mind in Ireland. I received the letter containing
this recall on the SOth s.ecensber. Several gentlemen
dined with me on the evening of that day, and I then
informed them of the circumstance, Lord F, L. Gown
having been aware of ii in the morning. Early qn the
next morning several persons came to me manifesting
extreme anxiety to know the fact. I, of cosine replied
tbat I had been recalled. At two o'clock several infiuem
tial pet sons came to me, stated the great eschewal
that prevailed throughout the city, and requested die,
if possible; I would contradict the report. or, if I ail
not, that 1 would apply what remedy I could in orar
to prevent the mischief which they apprehended. I
replied that the letter communicating my recall lay
upon the table. 1 said I could not contradict it, sad
that it was totally impossible for me to. have any cow
MUnicatiOn with the people. They went back in a star,
of despair, and saw some of the principal leaders of tic
Catholic Association, by whom they were informed of
the state of fever and distress that prevailed. 'The
Catholic Association were to meet the next day, and
was apprehended that some violent and angry revela-
tions would be passed in consequence. Now, I entail
Noble Lords not to imagine that I have the vanity o
suppose this state of excitement to have arisenfroa s'
personal regard to me or to my administration. Ito**
from nothing of the kind—it was to be traced to a slot
natural source. The people of Ireland felt confider*
in me, that so long as I remained at the bead of :he
Government the cause of the Catholics was not ow 01
despair. They bad this conviction (and in that ow.
viction I must say they were justified), that the sweat
I had ascertained, it was not the intention, of his Ma"'
jesty's Government to entertain any measure for,lbeir.
relief, that I should at that moment have retired from
the government of the country. They considered Ogg
therefore, as a guarantee that they might yet hops Or
that which has since been happily granted to 'bar
My Lords, the individuals to whom I have altidlt
called upon me again, with a view to strike out soot
plan to allay popular eacitatioat and it did dreg

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