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London, England, 1829-02-25 00:00:00

Lord CALTHORPE, in presenting a Petition from
the physicians end surgeons of, Birmingham, praying thitfacillty
might be afforded them In procuring subjects for dissection, and
another (resit the Magistrates of Birmingham, praying that the
former petition might be takes' into condderation by the Govern-
ment, alluded In strong terms to the late disgraceful and horrible
occurrences that _had takes place. and to the encouragement that
:-.-weetwereserryitwetr To slaw er the hit aketionnd *Man.
who wowed then subjects for dissection. He was sure that
' each 'scenes would induce those who were even most adverse to
‹. the Subject • being brought sander the coosideratiel of be Leeds-
lure now to change their opinions, and he hoped that tbs subject
• would meet with the serious consideration of his Majesty's filts-
ve. ammo which now breams more than ever amessary.—Ordereil.
to Its ors ;hi table.
r ASSOCIATION SUPPRISSION SILL.
The Doke of WELLINGTON rose to move the third
R. readitit of the Bill for Suppressing Illegal Associations
•• in Ireland. Since the discussion that had taken place
. • "" yesterday, it had been suggested to him by a Noble
r%... Friend to introduces clause, the object of which would
• be to prevent the interference of the Lord Lieutenant of
Ireland with religious associations meeting for legal
'purposes, on the ground of the disturbances which those
' associations continually met With in their meetings by
persons hostile to their proceedings; but be must con-
fess that he saw no occasion for the introduction of such
a clause, for the object of the Bill was to empower the
Lard Lieumnant to prevent and put down illegal and
seditious assemblies only; and, as the Associations
laded to in the proposed clause were not of a nature
like what he had mentioned, that Bill extended not to
them. Under these circumstances he saw no advise-
-.cage whatever that would be gained from the intsoduc-
tion of a clause that lad no connection with the Bill.
Lord REDESDALE said, 'strong apprehension pre-
vailed in the country that a use might be attempted to
be made of the Act, contrary to the drift intended by
She Noble Duke; and, in fact, he saw no provision is
the 841 for guarding against the evil alluded to in the
, proposed clause mentioned by the Noble Duke. It was
undoubted fact that the Roman Catholic priests in
particular mere eis the habit o f creating continual di,.
• mob once' in meetings held for a religious purpose. As
he hadleen the person to suggest the Amendment to
the Noble Duke, he felt himself called on to make this
observation. He thought that such an Amendment
wins necessary, or he would have !sten the last to sug-
• . gest the introduction of the clause.
The Marquis of ANGLESEY said, as the measure
; 4: ftnitained in the Bill now before the House was intro,
abased by his Majesty's Ministers. and had been gre-
, eiously recommended from the Throne, as preparatory
M 1 greater measure, which, he trusted, would shortly
be brought before the House, be rose not for the put-
pose of objecti-g to that measure. He wished rather
to facilitate and expedite the Bill through its third
reading, though be really could see ao necessity fur its
• enact-cleat. Although he was ready to grant tirat there
WAS great room for improvement in the conduct of
many in Leland, yet be would wish to see the pro-
noised entice.* on granted without any drawback.
That was an act of grace—the other he could not
avoid considering as an ungracious act—(Hear).—
. What was it, be would ask, that caused the first Mot
of the Roman Catholic Association? He would answer,
the oppressive, the unjust, aod the offensive laws that
had too long existed. They were only to remove the
cause, and they would also remove the effect. They
ha.] entv to repeal those offensive and oppressive laws,
and the Catholic Association would cease to exist; in
fact, the Catholic A.sociatiou had already ceased to
exist, and ttelefi•re that Bill would not act against that
Aa-oc Mum. Its object most be directed against other
Assocs. t ons that existed in Ireland. What, he would
ask. gave rise to ti,e Ittunswick Clubs, in Ireland ?
Them eat not a member of a Biunswick Club in the
• House bur vs.,uld admit chat it was the Catholic Asso-
c scion. They professed to have uuiced for the purpose
of oprosing the Catholic Associatioit, and to strengthen
the arms of Gov rfillneht. He would give them credit
for this, but he tett that there was no obligation for
such Clubs. The Goveromet t, he thought, was capable
a f taking c toot itself, and it required no such nuisance..
The Catholic As.ociation arose in consequence of the
many grievances which the Roman Catholics were
• 'forced to suffer, and while there appeared no redress of
those grievances it continued ; but, as sison as this great
ale s re was heard of, there then no !onset existed any
- cause for the continuance of that Association, -and it
ceased to exist. That there did, however, still exist As-
sociations in Ireland could not be denied—Associations
that tended more than any to distract the Country.--
* They had acted, he would confess, on the defensive; but,
now that the cause of their having arisen was at an end,
they ought no longer to continue. In this respect the
Roman Catholic Association had set them an example,
but they had not imitated it. All that was necessary,
be thought, was that the Government should relieve
the Roman tatholics of those grievances under which
so many millions had long suffered; and he thought
that. if they confidently and fully repealed those ti just
and oppressive laws, they would find that there caked
-no necessity for enactments like the pie-tnt; butin such
repeals they would find an ample and secure haven. .
The Earl of LONGFORD could not sit ant and
hear such praise bestowed on the Catholic Association,
and more than censure cast upon the Brunswick Clubs.
which he (L• id Longford) would maintain bad bee*
bnoettly and st lely defensive Hear). That was tee
principle on which 'the Brunswick Clubs had beats
formed ; and it was a true, honest. fair, and coastito.
Coital principle. From that principle they had never
departed.; bur they had always conducted themselves'
as became loyal men and good subjects. What, how-
am, was the case with regard to the Catholic Asbocia•
tion ? It had been formed,
, ther j int stock coo.
Jinies, to injure the interests of the country. Other
oint stock compan et had almost ruined the finances of
• the count,y, and thus inint stock company of faction,
'edition, disaffection, and treason, had almost toil ed
the country by its procetdings. It commenced by a
ghost decided opposition to the Government, and that
opposition it continued to the last. In looking to their
proceedihgs, be conceived that there existed some
grounds fur palliation, not in their favour, but by
reason of the forbearance exhibited towards them
'by the two preceding Administrations in Ireland.—
The last but one did not, in his opinion, exert suffi-
cient strength against the Association in 1825. The
Government obtained a Bill to put dowo the Aslo.
eiation, but it never acted upon that Bill (Hear)
If that Government thought the Act insufficient, it
should have called for nkw powers bean Parliament.—
That Administrations was deficient in spirit. but the Go-
Wernment that followed it was worse. The Noble Lord
• concluded by observing, that the minds of ell well in-
fotmed pet sons were madeop on the subject* the ne-
pesky of this weasel,. becaese they were cohvinced
that it was altogether impossible that any Geis:mem
could possibly go on under the ciicamstarrces in thick
the Government of Ireland bad -been placed for IMaig,
Ow.
The ht trquis of ANGLESEY begged to state. that
he had never attacked or shown himself •hostile to the
flieusviich Chiba by any act of his Government.
caressing), to which allusion had been madttozight,