Star.
London, England, 1818-03-12 00:00:00

the Honourable Baronet's arguments Were t
tenable in justice aid common sense. It
possible fur the Douse, when they legisl
year, to know the extent of the danger, butt
fair appearances of danger; and viould hi
dulity go the length of supposing that thi
Derby was an insulated conspiracy? It t•
proved that it was only a branch of ama
cated scheme of insurrection—A Hear, hear
the case of all civil services, that they con
fairly estimated, because their consequei;
not he ascertained; and therefore they 1...1
med amidst obloquy and reproach, and s'
the tranquillity which they were the mean
ing, and in the prosperity they had %curl
cheering.) We had now returned to the
tion unimpaired, except by the prem.!, at
been resorted to ; and if the measure was
it was those who had rendered it so t1„1!
swerable, by affording the materials for di
which was always alive and in wait in in
ing towns, for availing itself of the distr
country. This detestable spirit still pre
the prospects of the country were now ernj
trade and the spirits of men were revivir
impossible, however, to look at the grt
establishments of the Continent, cup:ride
last war, and in some respects the tnautu.
torted state of society at home, with, •

a shuddering of alarm and appiche
matters required the utmost temper. I
circumspection, on the part cf those
reins of government. There were twc
tits the employment of spies which tre
pass without notice. We should take
come the dupes of those who would elm
ver all the odium of the transactio::s of
themselves were the movers and instigalc
not at first employed by 3linisteis. It u
spirators who first took him down, and
design of mistating the numbers of
and going from place to place to hold c
of assistance. It was this conduct that
suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act nec
Honourable Gentleman then went into

all that had been said against Oliver 1
gents, and argued, that he and those w
gaged at Manchester were well receive(
herd out hopes of numerous bodies of th
being ready to join them; but when it
they were informers, every false in:i
thrown upon them. The next point via
had been said to have held treasonal,:e
the day the Prince Regent went to
ment. He did lint know that this mig!
fur considering the light in which he
those persons who committed the outra
impossible that he might have ex,-ited
acts of violence. But he would say
tremeiy unfortunate that the secret wai
that time; for it would have been rely
know who were the leaders of that ~ter
apprehension of Oliver would have led
very of others, while it would have pi
he was really a Government spy or not—
Every one must concur that the use of
ought to be regretted; but it deserved
deration, whether a plan could Le law
from the perverseness and infirmity of h
could cause them to be dispensed with
impossible to draw a correct line of
tween the strict morality and necessity c
We must recollect that it was very eas
in our feelings on such subjects: for
dom that conspiracies against pmper
dual security could be detected with,
accomplices; and if public sympathy
were alone consulted, rules might be
it might soon be found necessary to del
the whole, he thought the Bill neces=a:
therefore vote for it, as without it, the
had given information might be expo,
seance of those whose machinations
tented. He was convinced that no tin&
been exercised, and that the effects of tI
that had taken place would not belost
might be hencetbrth tempted to adop
sures would reconsider the objects of
and they would see that such measures
duce a Government more arbitrary an"
that which it was intended to displace
long continued cheering.)
Mr. BROUGHAM thought the
had gone so far in his entire support of
he deeply regretted to say he had rich
the approbation that he had received.
But it was his arguments and not hit
ought to be weighed, and that upon th
as if they had come from the Ministi
the Opposition side of the House.—(
They were connected almost as much
measure as with the Indemnity
Bill.—
hear, hear.)—With the exception of tv
chiding sentences, he defied any boil'
single passage of the Honourable GE
that had any relation to this Bill, f
quite as much to any of the series
of which the Indemnity Bill had gra
In going over the arguments of the
in favour of the Bill, he (Mr. Bre
would admit that at all times wh,
been rendered necessary from the
the case, such persons ought to be p:
would confine the indemnity to that,
what v. as sought for, but to hold o
those who had transgressed the law,
of motives, confounding the mentor
with the miscreants who had deludes
holding out to them the same indent
dtcasions, when two Commissions v:
rent parts of the country, under one c
persons were convicted and punishe
of those witnesses who appeared
danger? Yes, one, and one only ;
a wrong person had been brought ti
dente. Here the Honourable and
man detailed the full particulars of
took place at the trial of persons ch
dism, under the special Commission
year 1812. Ile went on to contend,
other witnesses, who had been the
victions, were afterwards in the le,
ger ; and as circumstances could
since 12412, he argued that it was
protect the persoes attempted to bt
Bill, withoui. 41:y such measure. 1