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•By the operation of the measure
the sanction of this House at the opening of the Session,
there is at this moment in the ports of this country
560,000 quarters of corn. Now, Sir, my first proposi-
tion is, that that quantity shall be let out of bond, not
by an act of the Government—for 1 assure the House,
that the Parliament would• not be more unwilling to
/rant such a power, than Ministers to accept it. The
release of that quantity (660,000 quarters) may come
under the operation and condition tof the Bill at pre-'
sent in the other House, as I undirstand there was no
abjection made to the release of the corn cum bonded,
or to the release of whit additional quantity may come
into the warehouses before the end of July, ander the
regulations, as to price and duty, which would havi
been imposed on it, had that Bill :passed, unaltered, int°
a law, and to that effect, indeed, the Bill has virtuallp
passed : for I hare been, as I said, informed, there was,
no objection in the other House to exclude the corn
now in bond from the operation
keeping to this modification, as ,
enabled to avoid the risk bf a contest.

elite only as injurious to the success.
there is another quantity of cant
particular consideration—l raean,so
Canada, for the importation of -
some time ago given,and for the
have been drawn, and which is now s.._
Itransmitted to this country. These separate qualities
;of corn, I mean, should be admitted at the prices fixed
by the Resolutions of this Houle. To neither of these
parts of the Bill was the smallest objection urged in
the other House. In fart, the amendment, which de-
stroyed the Bill, did not touch them. In proposing a re-
soletion for the admission of these quantities. we enjoy
the advantage of avoiding the risk of a contest with the
other House. and of acting in perfect accordance with
the principle of the Bill. which lately-proceeded from
this House. These regulations I propose as temporary
expedients ; to last no longer than to the middle of next
Session of Parliament, with an understanding. that,
previous to that period, we shall return to a most full
and anxious discussion of this all-important subject.—
Now. Sir, between me and the Honourable Member
for Essex, the practical difference is this : my Resolution
goes to limit the quantity of corn to be released. and
thereby to limit the apprehensions of the agricaltu
rusts, which might be awakened by the letting out of
corn at sixty-two shillings—that is, that the scale of
prices and duties that were determined on' in the Bill
before the other House to regulate the admission of
all corn, should be allowed to operate on the corn at
present in boncl, and the quantity ordered from Canada,,
for which -bills have been already drawn. On the
other hand, the proposal of the Honourable Member for
Essex recommends us to throw away altogether the pro.
visions of the pending Bill, as well those parts which
have been approved in the other House, as the pasts
which have been opposed, and that the lowest price at
which the people of England should buy corn should
be 70s. that is. in place of 625. as fixed by the regula-
tions of the pending Bill, the Hon. Member substitutes
70s. with a fluctuating duty of 17s. and a permanent
duty of 12s. In the rejection of this—the Honourable
Member's proposition—l trust I shall receive the una-
nimous support of the House. Another objection which
Lentertain against the Hoo. Member's proposition is,
that it purposes to reinstate the principle of prohibition,
which we hare already determined on abolishing, and.
Tor the redantegration of which I see no reason in the
circumstances of the present time.. There is another
difference between my Resolution and, that of the Hon.
Member. His would be permanent ; mine is intended
to be temporary ; namely, until the discussion of a per.
angemit measure, which I trust will pass into a law, and
be finally settled in the course of next year.—The Right
Hon. Gentleman then moved the following Resolution :
That It is the opinion of this Committee. thit any sort of corn,
grain, meal. or flour, the produce of any British possession in North
America- or elsewhere, out of Europe, now In warehouse in the
United Kingdont,or which may b.: entered at anti port thereof before
the fu day of July next, shall be admissible for home consump-
tion, upon payment of the fulfowing duties." (The duties here re.
ferred to are those provided by the Bill which is at present in
the Lords.)

Mr. PEEL declared, that the only circumstance
which could induce him to vote for the proposition of
the Hon. Member for Essex would be, a determination

on the part of the Government not to bring forward
any measure on the subject. If they had not proposed
one, he, looking at the Hon. Member's proposition as
an improvement, would have, in that case, voted for it,
though he could not approve the adoption of a perma-
nent measure, which was founded on the prohibition of
foreign corn, until the price should have risen to 80s.;
but as his Right Hon. Friend had proposed one founded
on the resolutions on which the Bill was constructed,
be felt himself called on to vote for the proposition of
his Right Hon. Fr iend. He would not, on that occa-
sion, mix up a question of such vital importance with
a reference to any political feeling or passing event;
and he was sorry to see that some expressions of his
Right HOnourable Friend, on that point, were taken
by the House in a meaning not (he was sure) intended
by his Right Honourable Friend—he meant the pas-
sage in which his Right Honourable Friend declared
the impropriety of making a measure, affecting the
subsistence of the people, the instrument of political
opposition and party differences. Now, as to the
conduct of hii Illustrious Friend, the Duke of Wel-
lington, if it was thought that any measure of his Noble
Friend had been adopted through political motives or
party feeling, he, for one, believed that impression to be
totally unfiunded. He did believe that his Noble
Friend, having approved the principle of the Bill, pro-
posed his amendmeat with a view to promote its object,
and to amend a defect; and to the particular amend-
meat, he believed him to have been led by his miscon•
struction of the communication of his Right Hon.
Friend the President of the Board of Trade. He
(Mr. reel) was in habits of confidential communica-
tion with his Noble Friend, and he was sure he
would have been apprised of his Noble Friend's'in-
tendon if it were of the hostile nature which had been
imputed to it. 'But while the House acquiesced in
the sentiment of his Right Honourable Friend, that
this House of Parliament should regulate their dis-
cussidas by their own declared opinions and undoubted
piivildges, let them not refuse the same right to the
other House. ' On this point, he would not proceed fur-
ther, but declare, that, for bis part, he should ever take
his course according to what he conceived to be most
conducive to the permanent interests of the people. As to

be had .already stated to the 1-lon.e
soundness of the principle off the
min siOar as to declare, chat, in the,
stion of the illness of tic Right Holt.
. himself propose the adoption of it to
. then, it should. be considered, thht per-
_ approved of the principle of the Bill, might
..tenably object to its details; even in that House;
tfie Bill enderwent many alterations, as to the prices of
several kinds of grain, in the course of the discussions k
let not the Hinise then impute alterations made in an-
other place to party motives. He wished that his Rigl t
Hon. Friend bad proposed a permanent measure on the
subject, and also that his Right Hon. Friend had not
attached such importance to the amendment of his
Noble Friend. He regretted that the alteration was
considered so essential as to prevent the recoustruction
of the Bill, in a form which might allow a compromise
between the two Houses of Parliament. He for one. as
an individual, was ready to assent to a Bill founded on
the principle of the late Bill, even though the new Bill
should contain also a clause to which he could not give
his assent, as be considered the settlement of the diffesl
tences between the landed interest and the manor:lc-1
luring a matter of immense importance. If such al
compromise could be effecled by a protraction of their
slain, • until the Ist of July; he should think such anti
nramation devoutly to be wished for. Such
• of the question would be better for both
and the manufacturing interest. For
.., not an advocate for either pars,. but a
inseparable interests of both. Though he
the introduction of a permanent measure,
he principle in which he had acquiesced,
. prefer the measure of his Right Hon. Friend
to that of the Hon. Member for Essex.
Sir. W. WHITMORE said that he entirely concurred in the
opposition offered by Mr. Canning to the propelitia• of the Hon.
Member for Essex ; and must at the same tirmt bis agree-
meet with the Resolutions of the i
H& n,
meet
upon the grounds of expediency. 4t Me same eigni, be did tier
aliiSes
wish to be thought one of those whoa ft it a means of no
consequence bow often the laws lle aid of the
were changed. Nothing could be itait ' than t .
laws upon suck a subject, said he IMO iewariet sopte, r '
(Haar). Suck • coune destined theollbus 4 she Imo bersadalt
laws, and tended to check that whilasine splric of eyesight's.
which would alwam rnahltain an absimaint araPPI/ of food la a
remand& price. This was the third etimpiiiry measure they ha*
reanurse,to, and he hoped the syuem would Mt be carried further,
as its effecu would be more and more injurious every fresh sup
they took in it.
Colonel WOOD said, that he did not see how it was intended
to act alter the 600,008 cleaners of bonded Corn had been re-
hued, should there chance to be an escestively bad tureen, Niut,
that of 1826, when the corn, what Yule there was of it, was sail'
ing on the ground in October. He apposed the ports were to
remain closed till the price rose to 80s. when the law of 11122 would
came Into operation. and open theln. He could hot see what ulie,
jimeen her. could be to let thicker of 1822 eons, Into operation
libie-this Ow ves. to 70s. which would not at all *Mertens with
*a_ of the Right Honourable Gentleman opposite,
Wile ' ' - to mean that the bonded corn should come out when
UM_ itiee rose to 62a.
Uri CANIIING sale, that It might come out whenever the
huller plenumbapen the payment of Alt duty.
Chhipd W it said, that, in his judinsest. that would net
prevent the prices rising, in case of a bad harvest, higher than was
1 cootemptated.
Mr. BENErf said, that he did not think the meson* of the
Right Hots. Gentleman opposite called for by the present dream-
stance, of the country. . _ _

Sir JOHN NEWPORT could not support the motion of the
Hon. Member on the other side, because it went to en anseadment
oldie Act of 1122. Now, that. Act, so far as that House was coo-,
cerned, had been virtually repealed. by its peaking the Bill which
had so recently gone up before another House of Partlament—
(Cheers). He begged to ask Has. Geetienten, With what coats-
:racy they could used up for so aasemlment Ha statute, which
statute they had already, by a deliberate vote, and after several di►
cussione, determined to abrogate, and for that purpose had sett.
mimed a boratel measure to the approbation of another branch of the
Legislature? The Hon. Baronet, after lease general obeetvatiens
open the Cord Mil which bad passed through that House, nod
which he considered calculated to effect mock good, conehided by
observing, that he trusted some temporary measure of protection to
the consumer, as well as the grower, would be agreed opal What
the breaking up of the Bessie. t and that whets, after the reems,
Parliament should renew. its tisltheretions upon the sensed glee-
don of this trade, more temper would be manifested by we branch
of the Legislature, than it had hitherto exercised in dealingwith
this matter—(Cheers). '
Sir EDWARD K HATCH BULL, after some observadocul M
complintent to the Doke of Wellington, obsetved, that, in his opi-
1140h. the Bill to which the motion of his Hon. Friend, the Heat-
her for Essex, (Mr. Western) more immediately related, cam.
prised the true principle on which they ought now to Legislate. At
the setae time, seeing that the sense of the House had been already
expressed so decidedly and unequivocally utiles the Bill of the pre-
sent Session, he felt that it would ill become him to press any reso-
lution founded upon his own opinions on the question, to a division.
If, however, the Member for. Essex should choose to divide the
House upon bit motion, when the discussion should terminate, he
would, as matter of course, have his (Sir E. EniftchbulEs) vote.
He bad, aa.the same time, no difficulty in acksowiedgieg, that
placed as Palmas were at this moment, be should, in their situa-
tion, have pursued the line of conduct they were now teeing.

Mr. A. BARING—He could not help observing, that
there was some inconsistency in the conduct of those
who professed to be pupils of Mr. Ricardo, and yet
, were loud in the support and celebration of intolerance
and Protestant ascendancy. The measure suggested on
this side was one of a temporary nature, and calculated
solely for the year, but formed in the spirit of that *tea-
sure which had already received the approbation of the
House. As to the propositionof the Hon:Member for
Essex he did not know any reason why that should be
adopted. Why shouli they adopt the plan of a prohi-
bitiou of the' importation of foreign corn, till the price
at home reached 705.? He could not but object to that
scheme, if it were for no other season than this, that it
was in complete opposition to the plan which bad been
already adopted by this House. He objected to it,
also, inasmuch as it limited that discretionary power
which was vested in the Executive Government with;
respect to the importation of foreign corn. If Parlia-
ment should establish a prohibition till the pate reachedl
70s. there could be no interference on the part of Go-
vernment, till the home price had advanced that length.'
There would be no good ground for interference, if
Parliament thought proper to take upon itself abso-
lutely to prohibit importation until the price rose
to seventy shillings. The proposition of the Honourable i
MeMber for Esse: would therefore be not only objec-
tionable in point of principle, and contrary to the plan
which the House had already sanctioned, but also ex-
tremely inconvenient in point of practice. The only
alternative was to adopt some temporary measure, or
some permanent one, conformable, as far as posssible,l
to that which the House? had already approved. No
plan, however, could be so generally satisfactory as that
which the House bad already approved, and sent to the
other House. Many of the farmers did not think dal
they would tinder that Bill get sufficiently high prices
for their corn ; while, on the other band, the manufac-
turers thought they would still be compelled to pay a
much higher price for bread than they ought to do.
But still there was a general impression, thin, consider-
ing all circumstances, and the feelings which prevailed
among different classes, it was as taw and as good 11
medium as could well be adopted. He, therefote deeply
regretted that such a plan should have been destroYed in

period of scarcity may take place productive of evils the subjmt of debate,
which no political triumph can possibly compensate. his conviction of the
And, ifebecoetsing 'harvest should
be be late, even fhe ap. late a
co Ht evewies
prehensions of nib SAW* a may so exaggerated as Meat of ntinuatii
to create much naischref, unless ,Parliament shall. now Seienii. he would his
proceed tc the nanptiorrof some measurecalculated to the Vinuse; but the*
supply arty incidental deficiency that may possibly oc- sons Who approved
•It. the oneration of the measure which received reasonably object tc

lof the amendment. Ety settings until thi
to quiatity, we &h.& be event a consumr
contest, which I depro. an adjustment e
ecess of the messier. Dot. the agricultural
n which is entedittfinur his part he was
sn,so much of the eims of friend to the ins
' whirls orders bite beep 'wished to see the
le amount of which bills founded on the
now in progress, to be be should prefer