Star.
London, England, 1817-01-29 00:00:00

for the giniing fund; If It Was tonsidefed as amanita
of redeeming the debt. Wien we spoke.of a Sushi.'
Fund, we obviously and unqientionaldy Imam that
it was something by iokieh. A *kW WU erieMed to
lessen his debt. This vies the obvioal.and indirpu.
table meaning of a real Sinking Fund, sad he would
be glad to learn what other rational definition could
be given of it. Surely then, the Sinkirig Fund, which,
iosiead of bettering the condition of the country, left
ft equally as bad as when it found it, deserved no
such name. The revenue had now totally failed, and
were they to take the whole of the Sinking Fund in
its room, they would still be obliged to borrow a con-
siderable sum, he would not say two minions, but
still it must be a considerable sum. It was obvious
to the plainest understanding, that no benefit what-
ever could result to the country from ten millinne
being taken from the public debt on one page, by the
operation of the Sinking Fond, while the same sem
was added to it on the other. While such was the
real nature of the case, he begged to ask how it was
possible for Ministers to assert, as they had done last
year, that the revenue of the country was in a nou-
rishing condition ? and now, when they saw the total
destruction of the revenue, how could they declare it
had arisen from merely temporary causes Such
could not certainly have arisen from a sudden tran-
sition from a state of war to a state of peace. The
war' undoubtedly, had been long in its continuance,
and bad been attended daring the whole of that con•
tinnaace with an unparalleled expense. Still, how-
ever, no man who dispassionately viewed the sub.
jeer, could admit that the return of peace had at once
produced this dreadful mass of evils. It was eqnally
worthy of remark, that at the time this Speech was
delivered by the Commissioners, the country was
in a state of profound peace, and was so still.--
On the one occasion our revenue was described as
nourishing, and on the other as having greatly failed.
Now, were the cause of the calamity a mere transi-
tion from war to peace, why, one might naturally
ask, had the calamity not been in some degree alle-
viated before the present period ? Twelve months
had elapsed since the first speech was delivered, and
instead of amelioration, the country was a thousand
times worse. This could not be the case were the
cause a mere transition from war to peace. It became
therefore, the House to be extremely cautions in de-
livering_ their opinion respecting the existing -distres-
ses. He, for one, decidedly condemned the . idea of
their arising from temporary causes, and should have
no hesitation in thinking the House gutty of at-
tempting to delude the people of the country, were
they to give that as their opinion. He knew that it
was morally impossible for a British Parliament to
act in that manner, and were they to do so, then be
was persuaded, no intelligent individual in the coun-
try would believe them. i'he real WWI of the dis-
tress were, the in./ wens' debt and taxation of the
country. It was by these means the people were' so
dreadfully borne down as they were at present. That
was the great leading cause elf all public privation.
When, therefore, we presumed to exhort the people
to exercise fortitude under the trials they were called
to endure, and to be patient while they made so many
sacrifices, it was surely the duty of the House of
Commons to speak the teeth, the whole truth, to the
people, and not attempt to.blind or delude them by
a false statement of what were the real grounds of
;hair calamity, and it was equally the duty of the
House so shew the country.that they.wete determined
to act as the Representative, of such a nation as
Gnat Britain were bowed we act ; that they were 'so
Ireagei to be put off their guard by the promises of
Ministers, but would, by rigid economy, shew they
felt, as Representatives ought to feel, what was their
duty, and would manfully and conscientiously dis-
charge that duty—(lieer,iter.)—Day after day had
promises of economy been made,. but the painful ex.
perigees of the country deosoostrated-how little inten-
tion there was to perform these promises. This pr-
ticularly led him to think chat by adopting the Ad.'
dress as now proposed, the.Houw would be only de-
luding the people, and throe exposing themselves to
the danger of ewer hereafter being blamed by their
own consciences for a dereliction of duty. Much had
been said respecting the attempts made by some in-
dividuals to inflame the public mind, by stating cir-
cemstances in aggravation of the present distresses,
which bad no connection with the real causes. For
himself, he felt confident that do man could retires-
ally charge him with having ever in the smallest de-
gree, directly or indirectly, given any countenance
to such inn our. story desigos—(Hear, deer)—and
be trusted be never should; but this be knew, that if
the House wished to give, the people any Confidence
is what they did, it was only by shewing their deter-
mination to do their duty, that that confidence
could be produced—(Hter.)—lt was only by skew-
ing that they would uost to no class of Ministers,
whatever party these Ministers might be of, but
would themselves, with all that attention, anxiety,
impartiality, and a love ot justice, which as the re-
presentatives of a mighty empire they owed to their
constituents, reamine quo and correct whatever abuses
they found to exist in the public government.-
-And indeed it was impossible that as Representa.
titres they could be tom to themselves or chair coun-
try, unless they manifested a coustitutional jealousy
over every Ministry which might exist in the country.
Nay, he would carry the pint still farther, and say,
that they were bound t. act so, if they had any wish
to preset ve the people in due subordination, and in
good ostler. The people naturally looked up to the
wisdom and energy ot Parliament, and it would be
painful in the extreme that die good they expected
from that wisdom and energy, should be withheld
hom them. In looking still farther into the argu-
ment respecting the temporary nature of our calami-
ties, one naturally supposed from their being called
temporary, that Ministers hid strong expectations of
some relief. Now, he would ask, where were the
resources from which such relief was to come e Was
it from the manufacturing interests? Alas! the
paint ul experience of thousands demonstrated the ruin
of these interests. • Was it from commerce? There
were in the House many commercial men, but was
thereon of them who would say, that he erstertained
the smallest hope. of an improved state? Looking
around, the prospect was equally gloomy in every
direction. No improvement- was to be hoped for,
unless the 'House did their duty by feeling sincerely
for the people, mid carrying that feeling into prac-1
tice.—(Hear, hear).—Mintpters bad now declared
their intention to reduce the expenditure of the coon-
try. He sincerely wished they bad begun that reduc-

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tide a little carboy, es they might
more confidence to themselves hot
they now unfortunately had. The,
fats long as they could, and wher
reboot to assemble, they had then bey
had they not began sooner He co,
it was the dread of meeting Part
of their own, that made them ni
work. They remembered the (list
takes place last Session, and the ci
these discussions had produced, an,
them again, they now began to ref
prefer, he would ask—was it
affaws of the country should be tru,
of such men, who had no wish w;
inpensive establishments when no
Isatt on the contrary, %hewed every
to attain, if not to increase them.
Besides, be was at a loss to know
had not been earlier assembied. Mi
known that the early meeting of
general wish of the coutrry, an 4
same could have been sustained I
gratified. Had they been sincere ,
of economy and retrenchment, the,
portunitv of proving that sincerity
calling Parliament together, and
to carry these professions into pearl
glued, that whatever advantages
demen who were of his opinion
speedy assembling of Parliament
the great inconveniences they shim
te, and therefore resolved to post
as they possibly could. The debates
lion seem to have given them some
therefore prevented these debates ,
some to them as long as they coup
—Feeling' these things very str(
the absolute necessity of the Hoot
every exertion to secure the confidence
be had prepared an Amendment,
be begged to say, that it contained
despondency, or exaggeration, but
statement of facts, and a declaration
House. should it adopt the A,
come to a determination to thaw
out delay to go into the state
makenU that investigation which
cewsequired. Before reading th,
!called on the House to consider
which they were now particular)
duty they were now called to dischan
The nation was at this moment
House with an awful and indescro
Every eye was directed to their
their discharging the duty whict
them, in the manner which they
secure the love and affection of the
they to act in a different manner—,
the country that they still wished
continued, then indeed would every
confidence, as he was pefsuadedl—,
deny and discontent succeed—and,
that want of union between the Re
their Constituents would take place,
predwative of the moot unpleasant
his Autendasent be unforteleitly
trusted thit a Noble Friend of his.
.made a motion for a Committee ,
%la the Natidaal Expenditure, would
his motion. It had unfortunately
*awe of Ministers (he meant by
eersseei!e they bad shade use onf-4
trusted, in the event' of this being k
Friend would revive it. The Hon.
Concluded by moving, that the
be adopted in that part of the Address
to the finances and distress of the'
to Teat we have sees with the deepest
flharrammeass et our asticalture, nianufactures
the ehrsileg delideney tat the Revenue, and th-
factruming distromes of in classes of his
Pets.
'That we are wining to indulge the hope
eiey be found le part to have originated from
remperary nature, and that some alleviation
dead by the coutinuante of pm, ; but "
dirge our limy ID his Royal Highness,
imastan a moat dangerous delusion, were
Mot sue opinion that the pressure that now
the lISIMWOM of the country is much more
ruses, mere severe in its virtu', more de
tames, and more difficult to be removed,
prevailed at the termination of any former
That we are firmly persuaded that''
them mad fonitude with which all ranks ,
dllieulties under which they labour win condole,
maim seek burthem as may be found ind•spensf
the reaveidable exigencies of the public service,
Yin this disposition, it is itscunibent an c
and vigilant camels. of its powers to prove
)eels that the sacrifices winch it may be the
make, are strictly linked to the real necessities
, r That utile we acknowledge the gracious
neenced M his Royal Highness. Speech "
menet help expressing our regret that his
set have been sooner advised to adopt measures
gid wienomy and retrenchment, particut •
Military Estehlislissients ; that a ',romp:
this and every other branch of our expel.
lithful Cummuus must naturally look as '
the sellerinp and redress the grievances
Judy sumplaht, and that to ebalile them,
Highoess by their advSce in the perbalttalicv
Measly called for by Ow present otuation
will lose no tune in Instituting a strict in,
the nation."

Such *ere the views he wish
adopt ; and he trusted, from a set
themselves and the public, they w
Mr. 4, BATHURST next rg
that the Right Honourable Gen'
last could not but be aware that
comparison whatever between the
Speech of last year was delivered
The distresses of the country wen
present very great; but he thong)
unjustly blamed for net reducing
sooner. Any man at all acquain
blishments were necessary in a co
every point of view, as this count
that reductions were not the wt
tbat it required tune and oppon
what reductions could be nude, Au
they were-to be made. (Harr.)
that. Ministers could say, that tr.
ment such and such an estaliiislil
exist. Ministers had, in fact,
Amendment of the Right Ilime
wished them to do. Th.y had La,'
the business of reduction iu their
place it, where it constitutionally
hands of the House. The Plitice,
livered this slay hum the Tluone,

ight theft hare s url
horn the peopl ilsyn
They had put t off
when the Hous wn
en begun. Nos sly
-le could only sa ih ,t
Parliament, not a ws.4
ri now commence the
discussi-ns which had
he consequences *hies
1, and, afraid to meet
:n reduce. Was it then
it reasonable that th-
e trusted to the hands
,h whatever to decrease
no longer called for
rery inclination at itagi
tem ?—(ll,tor, hear).....-
mow why radiomen.:
1. Ministers mast ha,.
of Parliament was ti.e
, and that no inconve.
ned by that wish being
erre in their profession,
t, they had a fair op.
icerity to the public by
nd speedily beginning
practice. But he iota.
get he and those Gen-
pion might see in the
'Anent, Ministers saw
y should be exposed
o postpone it as long
: debates of laic S-s.
1 some alarm, and they
tes from being trouble.
' could.—(lieor, /tar),
strongly, and leelirg
louse endeavouring by
infidence of the people,
lent, *respecting which
'coined no language of
ri, but a plain honest 1
[oration by which the
Amendment, would i
hew itself ready with. 1
to of the nation, ar..l 1
3ich the urgency dee i
g that Amendment he 1
sider the situation in 1
adarly placed, and the 1
discharge to the public.
lent looking up to the 1
describable anxiety.— '
their proceedings. By
Phich now devolved on
ley ouuht, they would
f the people; bat were
ler—were they to shee
hod the delusion mbe
every claim to public
tdedl—be lost : despor-
—and, to say the least, 1
se Representatives and s
place, which would be ,t
aslant effects Should s
niately negatived, :2 I
his, who had last year 3
ittee to • make enquiry 1
e, would again revive s
rely been lost by the in- .
by Abair influence, the .
of):-.(.4 Isarg4,)hat be 1
being lost, his Noble ; .
Hon. Gentleman then - 4
following
.Amendwrit I
Address whirl related •
the country : 1
aunt ecowern the eaubwit i
wootactures unicorn/erne ; ; 1
ue.anci the eaczarupled aid •
hie Majesty's faithful wit-
be hope that these Moon • 4
red from thcumstalsois of a I
tvlation of than way Isal.N. 1
but that we should ill dei• i
is, and be guilty ot Sante
, were we to coaxal use 1
it DOW weighs SO busily 01
la more extensive is its opt. i
*re deep and grutrral in is I
owed, than that winch 11"
Willer war. I
bat the 'Arne ezemrl.ry p) t
maks have hitherto borne ~y t
rill continue to support thra i
d ind•spensibly tiecnflary
ilk service, but that to nai•• 1
an this House, by aW. re I
to prove to their irlios.v.S' 1
lay be their painful duty t: I
neccasities of the I,tate. • I
4 gracious dispetto.3 32.
tech taint the 1 Mr., *' I
a his Royal Hightv...s she
st measure. of :tae :SIOS, ' • 1
ilCUltf:y With r% .1. :11.P•'
trop: :.rid t2:C...:1/: t. .il ::t7
' espri.si;ttsr••, his :r,"•1'".
ilk as the tip! !t,re .., re •
[ices of V. lice, :Le Fs ••; 's - I
he:waives to as,tss ht •l, Ft
.rmance 0 • jvy 441•,
moon of rt.,. coa.'.l-, '
Ice inquiry it:to :Lc 'ter ..
I
wished the Rotate r
a sense it tl,eir duty L
!y would ad-pt r en• J
:t ruse. lie nbvtre. i
7retilienhan who 5P'
that there es sted I 1
the period when, c' 1
tred and the rnesn I
were, be admitted, 4 1
sought Ministers re i
ink their eitablis:::7:el 1
sainted with what es:.
a country so gree,
nintry W4b, IIV;S: k: ••
woe k of A Male:
)portunity to consi,,
le, and in what etas.,
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r.) It WAS illl;,',4''''
L iroin this or oat sr
oiishtlieNt *h ,ii C....trc •
act, procctairal 4' i
lossoLrable Gentle'
I Lad nis away s--1"-*
len own hand-, buz
ailtliy,eo, uigni,
h:t:slesezir, :
'alone, had Etna ' s
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