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that England was not Ireiazd ; and therefore, when
legislating for. !Mood, let them not think that the)
were doing so for England. In Ireland they hid Ifkot
that inestimable blessing—a resident gentry ; and they
had an increasing populations without means of em.
ploynient. A military force was necessary for the
usual military ditties, in aid of the Civil Power ; end
to keep down that grievous bane to Ireland—illicit
distillation. He had to contend that 2.5,000 men
were necessary for Ireland ; but that force would not
produce more than 20.000 effective. The nightly
guard of Dublin amounted to 669 men. During the
Peace of Amiens there were 23,000 men in Ireland ;
till 1810 them were 30,000 ; and since 35,000 men.
There were now 38,000 men; but these forces had
not been employed to rivet invasion ; but for the
maintenance of public tranquillity. Before, 'however,.
the Military give their assistance to the Civil Power,
proper enquiry is made as to the necessity of the
case; and in that way the Army in Ireland had
been divided into upwards of 400 different quartets.
He was not more partial than others to the employ-
ment of the military for maintaining the civil peace ;
but it was better that by the Army the midnight in-
cendiary and murderer should be apprehended, rather
than they should be suffered to escape. The loyal,
aad industrious peasant deserved protection; and
unless it were also afforded to the country Gentlemen,
they would not reside on their estates. The insurrec-
tion had deterred, in many instances, the inhabitants
from disturbance ; but in other cases, the military
were preferred by the Magistrates, as by their assist-
ance, they were enabled to dispense with the Insur-
rection Act. In 1806 there were four hundred
friary parties employed to check illicit distillation; in
1807, five hundred, and in 1815, eighteen hundred,l
In one instance a party were obliged to fire two hun-
dred rounds when attacked by the smugglers. These
parties were absolutely necessary for the protection of
k the Excise revenue. He was perfectly aware that
such a plan could not last for ever; but while these
disturbances continued, it must be resorted to, even
though it produced in the mean time but temporary'
benefit. The only real remedy for the evils corn.
plained of, would he the diffusion of education among
the lower orders in Ireland ; but in the mean time he
world by no means advise that the House should
make a compromise with the present daring and tur-
bulent spirit of many, in that country. II I.e had
sieceeded in convincing the House, that for the pro-
,teetion of the 'peasantry, and to induce the landed
proprietor to reside on his estate, that a military force
of twenty thousand men were necessary, he had
gained his object.
Mr. F. LEWIS explained.
Mr. W. WYNNE said, that if the tremendous pic-
ture drawn by the Right Honourable Gentleman seas
correct, it surely, at least, should be substantiated by
ample enquiry ; and it was the duty at the House to
use every effort to remedy such alarmii g evils. But
14 was not sure whether the employinent of the mill-
tary force °a all civil processes, would not tend still
more to weaken the respect entertained in Ireland for
the laws. On the subj •et of going into the Committee
on the Estimate, he cornet) led that it would be infi-,
nitely more constitutuntal to vote a sum for the pay-
' stunt of the army in Ft ance, and that the sum to he paid
iby France for the maintenar.ce of that army should be
lodised in the Treasury, tinder the colitroul of radio-
,' meet. 011 this ground, if the motion fur going into
tneCottirnitte should succeed he should tees it his duty
'to move, that it be an instruction to the Comnktee to
provide a sum for the pay ot the army in France. He
felt no apprehensi m from the puwet ut France, trip.
• it was; hr. he apprehended danger arum the
~..litary spirit which nab growing in ties country --
Th;• y years ago there were no soldiers stationed at
the British Museum or the Royal Academy, but now
there were; and, besides, the passages through St.
James's were stopped by soldiers, in breach of the
Privileges of the House, even to Ismsbers, by an au-
thority which be was disposed to question; and he
hoped some one would bring the subject forward. LO
know by what authority the Executive. Government
had ordered those passage', to be siopped•—(Thar.
beer.)—He combated the maintenance ..1 a large sal-
Mary force in time of race, as being a measure full
of danger to the Constitution.
Sir J. NEWPORT agreed with the Right Hon.
Gentleman, (Mr. Peek) that a less force than what
was sought for Ireland, would be impolitic at re.ent.
But he wished that permanent, and not tempoiory
remedies, should be found for the evils un'ter which
Ireland laboured. Such remedies could only he found
in the Report of a Committees appointed to inquire
into the real state of Ireland.
Sir F. FLOOD concurred in almost all that.had
fallen from the Right. Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Peel)
as to the general state of Ireland. He firmly be-
lieved that the portion of troops mentioned was ne-
cessary ; bat all parts of Ireland were not in a state
of disturbance or disaffection. Ile instanced the
counties with Which be was connected as being per.
feetly well disposed and tranquil.
Lord .FOLKSTONE, on account of the lateness
of the hour, moved an adjournment of the 11e9ate, till
this day, which, after a few words from the CUM:-
.043.04. of the Esti:room was put and easyloit.
vt Mr. LAMB FUN gavenotice, that es an early day he eh,cl"l
snake a Motion reitwain/ .an extraordinary kettisli which had
Meat made from thetas latices in pursuance of an Order of do
unloose.
The CHANCEI LOR of the EXCHEQUER wild, 'bat as '
Ilse protraction of the debate on the Aratrkatimatee would tie-
enmity create delay to the other badness, and at the Holm
would not go into the Committee UR Friday, the deport could'
not be presented tin Mondanwhich day would be preterable fiat
decade'', and the intended Call of the House.
The M.tlon far Postponing the Call till Monday, was than
#e: aid agreed to
Mr. BAKING pimpeticil his Medea respecting Ceyldet till
Wednesday setinigbt.