Star.
London, England, 1817-07-09 00:00:00

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Mr. CM.CRAF weiert,, tLar in the f.r..• nr•
ttt.t. 1, .4,41 41 ter Ar ui l I rem flee -at j u t. ell,”nrtotirrif ..r
t: n. 4 .We. it a•tt nelatee r about th.- r:titv.. e.ttruv..i...t.
1.AP.;41. in tin. t...tt ;•
for lo•reten r the kteitla.ion or the Oral Qf C.ms•litle
In Weanduatcr.

P",JCP er Tlilt Mt:IMP-LtS.
Mr. BENNE I'l' pr••sented to the How:- 'I e Rc.
pert tit the Cern,: i-ee on 11. i l'o!iee of the 5.1c,.re.
polis. 71,e. Cerri.eittee, be stated, lied now mad*
great progress in the discharge of t!, • do, y c. Juno-
!cif to it, tiesa;;l. 3 cow-We:Milo parr of. ,I stir! re.•
mainei trif.r.efiec4. Tire Committee had cl..ssiflAti
its lal.cms te.der cl.ferrat head!. The !;.-st of dime
mac. the IV:ern of lirensing public-houses, its opi-
ni ins on which w•-re already before the Home. The
Report et Inch he had now to present related t., thee
system of rewards on coGvictionsi en/rim-snit, called
blood.money ; re) the increase of j.iveniledelinrreney,
it'd the ttons:arrtation system. As to the systk in of
rewa:ds or hl sul money. the witnesses had been via.
,nnionly of opinion that it cit,ht to be abolished ;
fosterer.; had been aelduc•d in which persons bad
tie swore e!seture!lves for the sake of die rewards.. In
the lait year there had twee three trials for eenspira-.
cies to oroduce convictions for the sake of the rewards.;
tot to stew the extent to which the system of ob.
tsining these rewards had gone, it was stated that
affi:..r, rind mole a practice of swearing pawns to
be vagran•ti. for the l'atliansentary reward of Its.
set, :oat Si was so easy a way of getting money,
lib it s .me of them doubted whether it was not better
I than catching felons. As to the increase of jprenile
deliniurncy, lee should state a few facts whiet3woulti
nest explain its alortnirg went. In 1811, there seri
I conitnitted to Netegate Ct? buys 'Paler 16 years of
age., of %horn ore. tees sir p.m of ape, three of net
years, hlicl ;h. et: 61 e.•-•Seil treats. In 181+, 98 boys
under It.; w, re r .r.i.einea ; tear of II,PM of nhe
years, eight of them et ten year:, and twelve of them
re eleven Tests of age'. In 1315, 96 boys under 16
w re comini,ro ; an...! e, 131 e, 116 of the same age.
In this les: , e ,r (14i8) there wcry committed LbriS
persons ur.d•rr Tr; sr:' r: ese I „`261 were ot 17 and trie
.ler, ai.d 957 of those ..1 1; years of •age aid tinder
were cernmitte I for f. (...ii ~. From the 25th of An-
gust, Itille to Octohet, 1:i.6, '.200 boys had been in
: iw'ody. Ot ties: :'3 had tern in custody for the
first offence; one (alt.! 16) had been forty times in
custody, and antents ii id been eighty tures in cos-
to .ly 1 and I7J of :he:n had bten tram three aid iota
.o twenty times in custody, for different Odeticry.
Of these '.!tX) iliac tv.-re convicted 141, twenty-s c
of than cape-.lly, the youngist of these was 5% )ei,.s
uld : 12 were transporte.t, the youngest of sv train
was eLven ; and 73 were imprisoned for differeut
'terms. Ot these 2ilo, two-thirds were under hear.
teen and down to eight years of age. The remaining
one-third were front fourteen to seventeen years of
age. Ot these 2no mist able beings, two-thirds
4..u1d neither read nor wriie. Ott the subject of
transfennati.o. et appeared, :hat since 1812. 4,09
had been transported to B•ree.y Nay, of whom S. .;ii
wore males, and 661 females. Of the.e 1,116 were
troda twenty-use yewsof age ; of whom live were
of clever% yetis, seven of twelve years, seventeen of
014kt...1,e:irk tnitty•l woof foot teen y..ars, and defy.
lire id WM% yeaci of age. Ot the 4,659 pervint,
2.055 were transpit red for life, 'ile, for fourteen years,
land 1,9111 tor sevea plts. Ut 2,018 wit.) were on
Ilbutrd the boats in 1815, flew wet.: :II under teve.ny
years of age, nmostivi whom :vat one of eleven, two
of twelve, and four of fuurteen yeats of ale. T.'lr
eyonses of Mew :laude Wale: t...im 1798 to 1813,
were 42,135,415. Tee !edits in the some period had
oecasio..ed :et e s ;sense of .C 915,611. and had increased
Ilona thirty or forty thonsand pounds tr, reDS,C9I6,
'Which ;t was in let 3. Toe total tr.:pens.? of the t-or
i•stahli,hosiits el 1!::r fi itr-.1 years were e..3,ai3.CA8
err at:-.lds,s'db a-year. T:i blip t':e expen!.e ot thrt
system of pi.:ii...hrntmt viaa• iu great, it Ithtsvete.:l no
;;oval phrpore, and mos-cuter eke ii..t.ett great in' a:
tics, noel ate iaerrase ot vanishrritat ntezer cerv.err,
elated by the Jr:Lige; Co Fts•ed 'ettence. 'I ::.:
pee sou who were transported fist wren years had no
nutan; of rettireix,:, and their puoishnient woes ;Fes
equivalent to traesportation for lee. ?Jensen vo:ti
wished to retina to England, preisti..ureis themselves
to obtain a passage, and those who Cif return were
not at all implored in morals or iiareite. He hoped
in t'ne se•-.ets tic Mentheri. ut Lite Heu.e. weeld tern
in. it attention to this ineleortant strrjeqa. The Co.
mil we had been anxious to ttle et i.te the children wens
misted to prison It Ow agtser And more hardened eta
inivenit. 'co chi, cud tilay .1.1.1 recommended that
a srpat ate pet should bo hod:. for tlieul. the tr.
',Cafe if ninth would ion be esoisiderable, compared
with the importance re tl.e oieect to, he oh'. tir•iit.
i'i-1.3c SOfC't..t s-... 4 i.t: tat she .K...pert, eta g9t.,1.3

of Which he had sated generall, and loosely. 11e:
;lien moved tkat the Rep• rt be printed.
ni SAMUEL ROM! I.LY co-curecd in the hope
that the important matters ciettained in the Report
would r.eeiv- the serious coo.iAeration et the House.
It woith' he a repr ach to 1' aliatuent if snore steps
w:.re not !akin to remedy the abuses which had been
po;nred on.. As to the subject of transportation
which had been alluded to by his lionoureble Friend
it should he remarked how large a proportion of the
persons 'transported were for seven years. Many of
these were transpotted when a large part of their
term had expired—soine when three year e of the seven
hid elepseit Tots. to the term of their punishment
%s•AS Added the whole time which must elapse before
t::ry were able to obtain a passage in return to this
c eintry. On these subjects. and on the increase of
young ofTenders—tbe conseirecies to recover rewards
—the pnulic.Li uses, the notorious resorts of thieves
—ka WO as such by the Police.oflicers, but not known
((r s it appeared) to :he Mavistrates, the House
5. as called on to adopt some effectual measures, as
acre was no subject MOW important to the tri-rals
et .he whole cotinttv than of the r•letrupolis.
Mr. DU ETZItWORIII to rz tes:ieiony to extra.
ditesry zeil and dil.getice evinced by the
Chairman -.1 the C Int:Matte who was tioitied
to tile thanks el the count, y at large. lie hoped
the subjects of the Report would be taken lip in alio-
tber Sessieti. An instance had come to his ;;now.
ledge in wlech, for the pm pose of obtaining the l'nr-
lianter..Ary rewards, Police•eflices had paid Counsel
to prosecute perstins who bad overed into a squabble
it: the street, without any malicioui motives.
Mr. GOULBURN said, no persons wcie trans.
ported tot bou-n years, until those who Here con-
demned h.r a longer term were sent nut. Those
were transpotted for seven years were never sent
by their own choice, as it was looked on
as a teward to those met.. had behaved well in the
1 —The Its putt was ordeied to be piloted.

INIIN IC A.

S;r SAMUEL 120M1LLY gave notice, that to.
trlorow lie should move for copies of papers relative
t•• ii:e cvnsitict of the Grand Jury in ,Dominica, in
y lsst.

i'vTIT lONS.

Sir M W. P. IDLLY presented a Petition from
Anchver, against the tax which had been levied on
Doukey Cuts with four wheels. lie stated, that a
ease of great hardship of this kind had come to his
knowledge. A. Clergyman in Suffolk, who by then.
rustisni had lost the use of h►s limbs, had one of those
vehicles made to convey him to the places where he
had to peiform Divine service—as there were two
Churches attached to his Cure. To sliest/ it could
not be of the dexrit;tion contemplated in die Tax
Act he should state, that one had been wade which
was tureen inches from the ground, but had been laid
aside, as it was found impossitile the individual
could use it, and one was made eight inches only
from the grcund. This individual was charged .16`Zu
for these two vehicles, and lie was obliged to give
them up, ai:d coisid not attend the service of his
Church. The Tax could not produce £elt)00
Lord RANCLIFFE was glad the subject had
been taken up, as he had heard many complaints on
toe subj•sct.
The CUANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, it aas not in the power oldie Treasury to grant
rt het. 11 could only be (lane by Act of l'arlian►et►t.
S,r M. W. RIDLEY thought a short declaratory
Act should be brought in. The Petition was laid on
the t,ble. .

Mr. WILLIAM SMITH presented a Petition
Clow the Uuitati.in Christian of Kect end SU►sell.
1,0 t)ilig to be itlieved lren► the necessity of the per-
fot niAnte of the In.trriAge ceremony in a :thinner in•
tonshartit With do it et teJ. The Petition was lead
as !amts.: _ _ _

7 u N.e Ltunourable the Common; of Great Britain and !re-
but', in Parliament •b.emblesl:
" The Perkin:, ut the Ast.uciat,l I3ni atian Christians of Kent
and ..-tissex, 1 hly haweth,
" l hat your P.ti,toners. thew wing from the Establisl et!
Church upon the principle 11,at Lua;b.r is their sok head in
'natters religi,•ll, are de. ply 1111preaNett with the ine.m.istency
tot submadon, on their vitt, ru the mintage ceieniony of that
I hureh, as :tn act win 1..-hy i au: hoti. yto decree rites and cerc-
'. i. :AL kimrdedard, and tilt. en. it leading principle of dis-
cern is violated.

" hat a. Unitarian Chtistiars, your Petitioners cannot excul-
pate thentselve. from tte charge of a pa!pable vi nation of moral
principle in joining in devotions addtvoeit to the Father, the
And the linty Ghost ; and part!cularly in [tidying a beutdirt'
pronounced fur the AII-14:4[14111 vi the ceremony, w the uau,c 1,1
stun the father, Goo the Still, and Gun the holy Ghost.
" That finding that the braids I.estslattav, us an Act patted
in the reign abet Majesty George the second, relating to Mar.
riatie, recognised the importance and sufficiency of such r.l giuus
templet, by exempting the Jews and (26akers nom all obliga-
tion to submit to its provisions, su far as re.pecteJ the Menthers
ut their several consiounsuus; year Petitioners tett encouraged
to submit their case to the consideration of your honourable
l louse, and humbly to whin:), ilia they alto may he allowed
ru niarry among themselves, m conformity with their relizioos
p•ineiples. And your Petitioners will ever prey."
The Petition was ordered to lie uu the table.
SESSION AL VOTES.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECUEI
moved an Address to the Prince ltrgent, praying
l'iat some dignity of the Church be conicrred on the
Rev. Robert Stephens, Chaplain of the House—
( Near ) Agreed to.
'flu: Votes of 81 200 to Mr. Brogden, Chairman of
; £2500 to Mr. Lee, and £l5OO to Mr. Rick-
man, the Uri k of Assistants, and other annual grants
to Officers of the House, were ay_reesi to.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
alto moved a vote et £12,0114) iiish currency, to the
Qmniissioners ter ingot: mg tilo rite Cum ts of jils-
- in Ireland.

.Mi• BROUGHAM said the Commissioners in
Enr,lsnd and Set-laud rice;' ed nintireration. L
mos objectionable also, in such commissions, to ap-
pyint Members of V.irliament, uh,..ti any ;her p.r-
-sl•ol cutilti Le found coniptter.t to the perf.;:nntaice of
the duty.
Mr. BLAKE said, the Commissientrs, Mr. Web-
ber and blr. i'oster, had hecunie Islenibt•rs of the
1-lotse since their appoimnient asCommissionets.
Mr. BENNETT. stygested that, as these Com-
rr,isoners were: so well p4ist, all inquiry into the State
vl the Irish Prisons, especially with respect to the p.iy.
rent of fees now aboiished .a England. The motion
tv::s agreed to.
CHAIXELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
.rluettl of if.10,4;00 tor repairing the fort tit
10 IA but un tLe Pbtijl of Mr. Guidon, he
to p....tp,;.,e it to TLuladay.

ARRTSTA Fog TRFVON.
Mr. BROUGHAM wi lied to ask a Nolsle Lord
opposite (Lord Binning) connectad with Scotland,
whether it was likely the Lord Advocate.of Scot.
land would be in his place ; as he wish, d to ask a
question, respecting the law proceedings in Scotland ?
Lord BINNING said he did not know why the
Honourable Gentleman had fixed on him as a per.
son likely to have information respecting the Lord
Advocate, but he happened to know that be left
town on Ftiday.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, as he was so Incky as to
fix on the Noble Loid who had given him the in.
formation that he withed, he should put another
question, which if the Ni !)1e Lotd could not answer,
he hoped the Attorney Central wiadd. A per:m:l
of the name of Kerr, a most respectable master ma-
nufacturer of Glasgow, had been arrested for fligti
Treason—and alter bei:lg kept in custody for some
time had been liberated uti bail, though the charge
was ct High treason. lie wiAled to know whet!' r
any steps had been taken to bring this individu ri
to trial ?
The ATTORNEY GENERAL had heard of
the fact of the attest, but was not acquainted with
the step,. which had h.-en ante taken. . .

Lord CA sTLEREAG il said he 1:.,d received a
written explanation of the case tintn th:• lied Ad-
vocate s'.n►e time ag-i, the talbs,ance of wtiic he did
wit-bear in rnern4, bit he w. uld 'O'er to it, and state
the result to the H.);1. and Learned Member (Mr.
Brougham) on a Intent! day.

141AYN00111 COLLF:CF.

Sir H. PARNELL rose, pursuant to notice, to
' draw the attention of the House to the assertions
which had been m ide Tel wire to the number of stu-
dents educated in this College since the year 1813,
the doctrines promulgetcd therein, and the course of
studies pursued. Much misrepresentation had gone
' abroad upon these and other subjects of Catholic
discipline and doctrine since the motion of his Right
Hon. Friend (Mr. Grattan) upon Catholic Emanci-
pation. There were, he regretted, many whose
anxious wish it seemed to be to revive once more the
tyranny which had for so many years controuled the
exercise and profession of the religion of our Catholic
brethren. The speech of one Hon. Member in that
House, which had been since published, had stated,
that the most dangerous tenets of the Church of
Rome were propounded in only two spots in all
Europe ; these were the Vatican and Maynooth Col-
lege. These dangerous doctrines were commonly
known by the denomination of Transalpine. It such
doctrines had been there entertained, he woulu ad
nut that the College was sio longer fit to receive the
countenance of the Government of this country ;--
but so far front its being. as stated in that speech, lie
assured the House, and could adduce documents to
I prove that the heads of this College abjured all such
doctrines. There was no foundation for the asser-
tion. As to the charges made against the peasantry,
AS being actuated by religious bigotry an their resis-
tance to the Constituted authorities, it had been al-
' ready proved that those most active in the troubles
of 1795, and other periods, were persons at variance
with, and interdicted by their Clergy. It had been
said, and very boldly said, di At the Catholic Clergy
were the foremost its obstructing the eiTirts which
had lately been made to introduce the improved sys-
tem (.1 education adopted here into the differ° it parts
of Ireland. Nothing was more unfounded ; the
system could hot be expected to he se rapidly acted
upon by persons differing in religious persuasions as
in this country, where Almost all were of one reli-
gious opinion, and of one political sentimen'. A
.uppositi.n had been generally entertained, that .bete.
were no means of extend:lig moral iustructi in Among
the poor in behind. He had been wormed by one
Catholic bookseller in Dublin, that he had sold,
Wahl,' a few years, t wen y thousand copies of a
small work, entitled The Path to Paradise ; nearly
the same number of a wank of Dr Clialoie:r ; and
500,000 copies of Dr. Butler's Catechism, which not
only inculcated the moral duties of a good Christian
and Catholic, bait also their civil duties as subjects
The same bookseller had also sold ,00t) copies of
Graham's History of the Old and New Testament,
2,000 topiee of the New Testament itself, and ten
thousand small Tracts o Religious Subjects, at st
very low }nice. This was the sale of oul) one book-
seller, but there were many others in Dublin, whose
sale must have been at least equal. The asserion,
that the Catholic Priests were adverse to their flocks
reading the Bible, was wholly without foundation.
'!'here were lour Catholic Bookseller) in Dublin who
had each published an editian of the Bible at their
respective presets, and had sold 'many thousand co-
pies of it at a moderate pi ace. Within the list fifty
years, six different editions of the Bible had been pre-
pared fur the use of the Catholics of England, and
seven of the New Testeineni, of which the last edi.
Lion wassterrotype, omitting those notes of the for-
mer editions which might in any degree be displeas-
ing to :lie Protestants. In Catholic France, there
were no less than eleven editions of the Bible ; and,
in short, there WAS nut a Catholic country in Europe
where there was not a version of the Bible in thefts-
!secular language. Much had been said of the oppo-
sition made by the Pope to the Bible Societies in Po-
land; but that Bull did not prevent tl:e reading or
distribution of the Bible, but merely counteracted
the sprit of proselytiser by which these Societies
were distinguished. In Ireland they had exerted
themselves in a similar manner, and were not sails
Led with communicating moral instruction, unless
they could convert the children to the Protestant Re-
ligion. It had been stated that a College of Jesuits
had been established at Kildare, in Ireland ; hut this
assertion was without foundation. The fact was,
Chet a school had been set up under the care of a
Gentleman who bad been educated by Jesuits; but
Idols could not justify the former :allegation, which
was solely intended to calumniate the Catholics. A
letter had, nut lung since, been addressed to the Edi-
tor of a Newspaper from the Bishok tit Ossory, in
explailation of what had been said, by the Revetend
Prelate in another place, which stated, that at the
inauguration of the King of the Netherlands, a letter
had been flutist under every door, declaring that no
good Catholic could take the oath of allgoance to a
Protestant Prince; but the Brune!: "Gazrue soon after
contained en account, that alien the King was at
l'curnay lie had resided with tire Bishop, and ex-
pressed his s4listatcticat at the crinduct of the Roman!
Catholic Cleigy, and said that the difference between
himself and them would be :.I.entiy set led by' the in.

terrererce (If the P..11v The llJ:llcrable Biro.
net then oUserved general'.), ti,4t there was an faun.
dation for the charges which had been made against
Ireland, and concluded by moving—
" That an humble Address be pre.mted t, his Royal
ness the Prince Regen', that be would tv:i,eacl.n.ly pleased to
Lave laid before the i Cop:es oe Eccr:tr.,:s of any C..mmu
otratums ..loch may have bet:, r.ceived trout the Collette of
Movuowth relative to the cour,e of Edncatiou advteti in that
Serninarr."

..;.
Sir JOHN COX HIPPI3LEY seconded the Mo-
tion ; and, observing that tl.e subject then before the
House was one of the greatest importance to the in-
terests of the Empire at hope, he lamented the ab-
sence of the Noble Secretary of State, of the Right
lionottrahle the Secretary of Irefaed, of the Honotir-
able tel,rn:rer far Yarmouth (Mr. ne,,ter), and above
all, the incalculable loss of one removed for ever
by the high dispensation of Paolo:teem whose
ett-
I,gy he would not attempt to pronounce, bent whose
fate fie might he permi'vel to deplore. Tee qiestion
veas not, whether they shield grant .C:ijoo a-year to
tee Cohi ge of Nleystooth, or whether they should in-
crease it by tl:ree or four thousand pounds more, and
thereby raise it to what it had enjoyed ender the ad.
ministration of the Noble l)uke then at the head of
the Irish Gov. rnment ? The subject now to be dis-
cussed wits of far more consequence, for it referred to
the religious and nasal education of the people, and
iiiv -heal their own happiness and the safety ii n the
Empire. Sir John Cox Hppisley then answered the
call upon him, to ascertain what was to be under-
stood by 1 sv/nal/4;er Doeiriner. stated to be maintained
at May nomh. The infallibility of the Pope consti-
tuted the first principle, and from thence flowed her
superiority over General Councils, and the essump
Lion of a supremacy in Temporals as well as Spiri-
tuals; but it was Rot to be understood as the general
maintained doctrine, even at the Vatican. A more
liberal and rational code prevailed there. Individuals
and powerful Pontiffo such as Gregory the Seventh
and many of his predecessors, had asserted these ar-
rogant principle',; but their adherents now, he be-
lieved, were but few : nevertheless, they were to be
guarded against, and there was scarcely a state in
Europe, of whatever religious communion, hut had
so guarded itself against their contagion. The Ho.
'mumble Baronet then went into further detail, and
said that he bad given notice of a Motion tamale pro-
ductien of the Coacv-.1.1, between the Court of Portu-
gal and the See of Rome; and as he wished to spare
the time of the House, he should now shortly state
his Motion, as it WAS not unconnected with the ob-
ject of the present quest:inn, and thereby spare the
House any further comment. In one of many pub.
licetions, adverting to the late Report or the Select
Committee on Catholic Regulation, a charge had
been made of withholding this document, which, in
fact, WAS only an agreement between Portugal and
Rome, to divide the patronage of the benefices fall-
ing vacant in the Papal nemtlis of patronage. It
appeared, by the primed letter of Sir Cherie,: Smart,
that it had been seat by him to the Foreign 0!!;re ;
but, as it was not deemed of sufficient impottance to
be printed, en implied charge was reised en the orni.:-
sion. The Honourable Baronet then preceeded to
the Work of Mr. Gandolphy, a work which had been
stated as approved by the Official Authoritiils of
Rome, and licensed as such. Well might it attract
the observation and denunciation of those Ilonourable
Members who had noticed it. Nothing could be
more insulting to the Establishment and the Cu•
vernment of the country. The Honourable Parietet
then read a passage, in which Protestants were char-
ged with intentionally debeuching, the meres of their
own children, it they stispected teem inclined to teed
.in ear to Catholic Teachers. Fortunately, how-
ever, for the Catholics and for the Public, thong
Mr. GenJoiphy's Works had furtively obtained
the official Imprimatur of Rome, he noes stood cen-
sure by the same authority, and was on ch.red tii
upple.s ins oks, and make a formal and public
recantetion of his errors to his immediate superioi,
the Apostolic Vicar of his District Such was the
We of Mr. Genclolphy's works—at one moment
declared fit to be enclosed in cedar and gold—at
the next doomed to censure and abrogation. But
to return to the immediate subject of the motion.
He begged to call the attention of the House to the
documents which had been moved for some years
since- Nothing could be more opposed to -11 411%41.'
pine opinions. Ile course of education was precisely
conformable to the principles of the Galilean Chinch,
and the courses of the Sorbonne, where Dr. 1)e la
Hogue had been himself a professor. Under such a
visitorial power as obtained at Maynontio it was
sc acely possible that the exploded Transalpine doc.
trines could be suffered to be taught. The Lord
Chancellor, the Chief Justices, Lord ringal, and
other highly accredited and loyal persons, constituted
tire visitors; and the Honourable Baronet said, he
lied the satisfaction of receiving within a few days
from Lord Fingal, then in the actual exercise of his
visitorial powers, the full confirmation of the recti.
tude of their courses, as conformable to the 'Precis
which had been laid before the House. From Pro-
fessor De la Hogue, he had also received a letter
complaining of the imputation in the printed speech
of the Honourable Member for Yarmouth, and ark;
particularising the courses, lie exclaims, a. Is this to
teach Transalpine doctrines ?" tie referred al,o in
the same letter to the fact of the lionotirable Baro-
net's having, in a former debate, led Mr. Chancellor
Perceval to a confession that he had not made a due
distinction between the construction of decrees
doctrine and discipline, as the former were held to be I
immutable, arid discipline might change and be
adapted to times and circumstances. Ile then stated.
AS an instance, the discipline of the Council of Trent 1
respecting marriages, which had been adopted by the
Chuich ut England
; it nevertheless was net received
or acted upon in six of the principal dioceses of Ire,
land, including Daolin, nor could, therefore, all De-
eters of General Ceureds be held to he generaiie
obligatory. The Honourable Baronet then'atte, tied '
to the Report of the Aggregate Islcetieg of
do the 4th instant, in which they persisted to their
former eteschetion, adverse to the inteiterence er ifie
Crown, and supporting domestic. reeninetiee. A
vote of thanks to Mr. Hayes also seas referred to the
consideration of the Board—to Mr. Ifoyes, the DAL-
. gate of the Aggregate Meeting to the See et
to a person distinguished by the insolence of his sit.
tacks upon the Censtitution of his country, elite,. its
Government, and cyan upon the principel Fenc-
tionery of the Roman Govennment, the Cerdieel Sc-
crttery of St.tti: .r pee.cei wive on leeei;

t~

ted to tl a Pepe to receive his benedictien, was
rr.lssed with the Pontifical reproval of " Uirart, rat :•
Mein!" It was worth noticing that this Father,
legate Hayes, loudly demanded ass-ciates in his ern.
bossy, or the whole would be IM. 1)r. 1)14 egio,..t,
well known by his sr:edits and
wr.....urt, mid A
Auly, a brother of a Count of that t.arne.arac..,,.;
to the Est-En:pre...l of Fraiiee, war another •te.
Sir 3.111 n C. x. Hippisley here read from a Dublir;
paper, an extract of a lease from Dr.Dso rtti, • le, pig.
gesting how necessary it WAS for 1<••m+• n, hr n
guard against tutGnlerui^Fntof
w.
of most mischi,:vous i:uport, x id which •iiestirJ ;-:
reprobation of every Itafil subject. Of stecti
were the accredited tt:legates of the At1,,..c..tt
Meetiigs of Ireland cotr.posed !.—Qt the same com-
plexion was a work which had been presented •,• o:e
Ministers of Rome, at,d stated to " be go' a aty Fe
heart by one of them" —the Statement of Law.-
It was sufficient to Icier to the st,,,ech of tit.. •I:.'"t-•
ney General, kiiJ tile don..ficiat7on • f the Jto;:.e
w!..0 tried :an information against tiis book to a l /1y
ci ate the value of the present, 45 k:"M•f1...4 If in 4
itSll subject to a Itcroan :•;i,
followed with a quotation from Mr Co ic:i's
The w rks of this Geitticman had brew prcse..t...! to
the Ministers of the Pape ; it was lair tO Ciinel.
boa ever, t t state, that be was at issue With tita !".1-
(r,,ni when he asserted, that 11 the Pttr.etant:s-n
the. Clown iaoti:d, even in the case of the coucess
to the Cath,l c Claims, re •ain as a !arid 111.tik io
SiIVW that our ireedani has stern A •:1'.." l'ite Hon.
Baronet observed, that it Lad bt•en arytied tf: arc
had sedolute.ly maintained tsar the Pt.,:e.s.
taut Church. II by Protestant Church was •uean
the Church of England, he would ask, where ,5 t: e
security ? where was the security iii any test rc_
cloned, to exclude Dissenters 01 eve: y dtsvonination
from sitting in P...rliarnent—in even the
if a natural born subject ? Sir J lii. pill. y regietied
that in all the discussions of this oioisor.,o.,
none had ever yet t.ken place that could no sveiried
satisfactory either to Ptotestarns or C'
quiry into the real tenets of Catholics id the pi r sen t dar
had ever bten instituted; a few set spisecnes ausioatir
cl std tt.e debate, no iiiquiry, no evielL ace
%Vas it possible that such a emirs., could he
tory Sir J. Hippisley Uwe. ret-rred pampt,li....
ciroilated by 1)r. ts.l,lner, Gamins! 'anise. tft• Ago::
of the Irish Bishops—an agi•acy, however, wiiicn WAS
strenuously denied by the &sloops
recently on a eliall+rl to London. bit .1)-. Minter
had great farilitias of dispensing with the ina..Lura-
ciee, to say the lra.t, f:t his own stztetr.elits. I. t•
solemn address to the Members of the Ho.. .
Milner was pleased cearsely to accuse !.it J. LI: -
pisley with the wil!nl statervent 01 an Witrloi. Si;
J. Ilippisley read the origin..! inks in Ar...b.siloc,
Egar's letter, which Dr. Milner att,mpied 1., t Breit
on him as a fabricator'. thetten
also to thi• Pielate's stiolis —at f
strenuous advocate of the as—at the next s.I
Lulus an impogcer of it. Tins t... 1.11.1 ota.l tea.
pleas( d also to is t--mit .7. 4irpi..l.!:. cai
didata ft,r office—at ot,e morner.t for .0 s,y to
aTlO!liet for the .7.!:r' frt. (e,lle. I- '5
sib:l.., ob.erved the Honotnah e !tat tri,•., (vat 1 may
e rly revisit that ent7te to whict tli s .1.1%.31';
—unquestionably, ;:iitvevLr. cu.olcr, d;o:
lie should riot withheld ifori PI: toi,t.:•.g to to seer
such service to his et:snarl:, . S at a for niu pant, lac
Ltd nor titrattein.,:nliy
•the real state of tt,is imptir ant e,tocsticat tf !win
to I ; of it, i?
si7c!, a crisis, he 1. 1. 11. raaso:l ii.ly co:400.o as alt
AC: of S'ill-t: 1)4'11. befit•t7t• i:e s.;
lc dett.rred hots) :hr si• ix:mi.:ions of ',1:.!!
t2t01%. His u,U. t, eel tlh Licrny ,:.i b.t
; sh• itid he linty d:v. 11,,n the
course %%Lica, lil I,i, own itiroble , •A ,S it
ell tlO. SWllitiCSt C111,:itt11101i :t.• L.: ..•.:1
spedii ncy. ..f;tt tat Lite re. 1.:
Ili) tot ther first s,:cood tines •,, ;:se
Ho: ~,rabic I)..sinsiet who had :u iLeJ the
;air (i• HILI• row, Hot to ore, •ic. I:JC):1,/ii
the H.aitiorable Baronet, but to cotiiplalfl 0.1":
lair and disinger uous manner in v hint the li.inoits-
abie Baronet opposite had tn....lett:44:i t i teitty co ti•,!
speech of his Honourable and hearne.l
Member for Yarmouth, ; his anwnee.
Honourable Friend had attended sedi..o,ssly t 0;...
business in Patliament for a c.aisiderabte pliti...!..,:tt-
the.speech had bean printed . ud auJ it
would have been more candid hat the
Baronet replied to it 1101.os-rime Friend
was present. His lionoor.sie inend, hootver,
only to defend one halt of ISIS spet.”:ll —fin that thet
wherein he had alluded to Mr. Cat,,hlfily's
was fully borne out by the lionssuta'ale w!,o
seconded the motion.

Mr. BUTTERWORTH rose to dcfer.l the prir-
ciple on which the schools fer 'he ediiclt!iiet nt
lower ordet..; of the people in Ireland wc:e iannae
and which, he as erred, was far removed tram tie•
spirit of proselytism, of which the Minton Ale Bar, -
net had coniplaitod. He rend some eztr.tzts fn:!
the Report of the Ccrnntitteo On Education ci .:•- -
land, to Fl:vw that the (:atliclic Priest.: were onwiltar:
to snail children of their Church to attend ;it tho ••
schools, told that tOeir parents (eared to s:::ot
there, under the apprdien ;ion of rYcnalinui•j:.;;.‘).:.
Willi respect to die °pro !,:tin node by '
the dist' ioution of Bulles in Polaiid,
been attributed to the anu-tupis .:,1•••••;-
at proselytism, he Etav•k!, that the Foy.% !ii
beet, issitesi :whore a tibie 3aciety hat: Lyt.:l
eel in Poland.

Mr. V FITZ(II:I2.A t,l) Fre!om.l.t! t
object of tLt, too:ion hid twelt .41.•••:;•.,1 :;o:

-Nulty is p:f!setiteti the twh ilontAtt 414.!
tscihing st.t..eraetw.. the
of the Lli .th!wr tEr ;;;Li, h
hewed, ;wen ;.I;inene.q.l the most
bt:r CArei d.d ;
hi*l Lon. Friend's on the l'••' oi::
:oa
this rveinne; It h..d i 7 no w.cutlS ;:$
to sp.L:..it et 0.1-7 :..e.no.ed
teason Ito n..t 41:t.;!..t1
W.lt, I,e 11`y.:el.41.:10-'d,
Meysiot):ll Led beeti .•••.: •
onid lie ktab
making V. ti ::!!: Lt. L. 41 0!... tip L.)
11111)U
VPPosing ziio.l...ws u. e
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