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41 alitr.llity of Ow. nations, and Injurious to tin: jtntcta,ti..of
Ohmmeter ; that, in brief, that treaty teal C0n414t..-nt With the to.,
of policy, the principles ul justioe, and the settee of interest. • Th
114,11. Member has asserted, ghat the expedition to Portugal
w 54 Sk'nt for the purpose of interfering with the poiicy of Foreign- ,
States. I say it was sent out aids no such view. No. ,t 4 object
was to preserve Portugal from an. external attack. The result
of that expedition has beef) moat satisfactory, inasmuch as It has
contributed to give the people of that country a con-titution ena-
bling them to express their opinions on their public affairs. The result
of it has been good ind gratifying, for it must ever give pleasure to
Englxnd ro lee Drill institutions grouting up In neighbouring coun-
tries, as the prevalence bi lore principlts In some of the totintries
fords a sort of warrant for the partial introduction of moderate and
reasonable councils in ;he Governments of others. Having said so
lunch, gir, L shall not depart farther from the line of conduct re-
commended Ity all, though followed by few—(A laugh)—.-of nut
going into deep detail of all the toirics tuntained in the Spaeth and

the Address.
Mr. IIItOUGH AM, in explanattno; denied that he
bad spoken lightly of the anilltary success of the- Noble Duke t. on
the cookery, his words bore quite an opposite meaning. The
Noble Duke's military talents and achievements were known to all
Furdpe. It would have been absurd in Mm to deny them. What
be (Mr. Brougham) had really done was merely this—he drew a
distinction between the Military Officer and the Finance Minister.
As to his (Mr. Brougham's) conduct to the Noble Duke on former
occasions, when others of the party with which he acted hung
back, he (Mr. Brougham) recommended that larger resources
should be placed at the Gallant Duke's diiposil—was that detract.
ing horn his military reputation?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL protected against the Noble
Lord's deprecating the discussion of the Gallant Duke's fitness for
the Management of the Finances, merely Lecau-e this was the
first day of the Session ; particularly when he remembered, that in
somethit7g of a similar strain of reasoning. an llonuurable Member
last Session asked the Ilmse, how they could discu s the celebrated'
clause introduced into the Corn Bill by the same Gallant Duke ?
when they remembered that that identicel day was the leth of ,
June, the anniversary of the day on which he wen the battle of
Waterloo—(A laugh). The Noble Duke li .d no tight to draw
on his fund of military glory for arguments to defend his linen. '
cial measures. Ile hoped that when the Noble Duke would
hereafter bate committrol some finamial flunder, the Ministers
veuuld not come down to the (louse anti claim intponit y tor him
on the strength of the ample supererogation of his watEke merits,
con attempt to excuse hint as a Minister bee qise he was All able
Commander. lie could not but as an En, • ..nan retain the imt
pression, that a person who had spent the cite 1 pate of his active
life in the held, contractieg military habits, must have ..ettewhat
about hint of that military command and decision, which, although
highly necessary in the command of an army, and which the proof.
of his rtmming, whilst in the command of the Fatglish army,
had intmort.dzed the fluke of Welliegton, were yet most d..a.
serous, improper, and objectionable qualities in the Minister el
a free country—(llear!) Nor was he sure that this objection,
would be done away With by the arrangement which a Noble
Lost (Pahoerstoo) had told them bud been made with respect
to the Army. He must know that atrangerneut better hes
fore he could say he was satisfied. De must be made certain
that it was uut such a one as would virtually give the Duke
of Wellington the patronage of the Army, and thus. in some
sort unite the Commandership in-Chief with the situation of
First Lord of the T ry. With regard to .the Government
itself, lie was reskly to take the Noble Lord's oder, and wait for
their in • before he decided upon its character—(llear, hear).
There was, he confessed, some things in the composition of the
Administration, which he considered dangerous to the country,'
hut till be saw its measures he would not pronounce upon ks
character. The chief point, however, with him would be, in
looking at the composition of the Administration, to watch what
would be its conduct with regard to Ireland—(Hear, hear). He
mentioned this the more particularly, as it bad neither been alluded
to in his Majesty's speech, nor in those of any of the Hon. Mem-
bers who had yet spoken ; and he must protest, that any Governs
merit which did not put sue measures of conciliation towards Ira
land, but rather tended to coercive measures, as was last Session
menaced by an Honourable blemberon the Treasury Bench, should
not have his support. He now came to the other points of isle I
Majesty's Speech. With respect to the affairs of Greece and Turkey,'
he was glad to hear the Noble Lord opposite, in his speech, declare,
what he did, as it relieved him (Lord Russell) from the apprehension
that any blame was intended to be implied to attach to the Gallant
Admiral who had fought the glorious Battle of Navarin. But be
must add, that if no blame was intended to be cut upon the Gallant
Admiral, the words chosen, in alluding to him, were the most unfor-
tunate lie had ever heard—(llear.) But that such was not the Inten-
tion of th st• who framed the Speech he was ready to believe, ask
was his opinion that that glorious victory was a necessary consequence
at the Treaty of [wind..:, and it was also his opinion, that it was ai,
honest a victory as ever was gained by the arms of any rimer from'
the beginning of the world—(blear, hear.) With regard to Por-
tugal, our army was about to return underglorious circumstances tot
this country. Besides the comfort we reaped from our success,
we bad the additional one of knowing that we had done our duty,
at the same time that we performed an act of policy. It was, be
said, An act of policy; fur although the first thing to be more avoided
in the policy of a state was war,-the next was the skewing a fear
of going to war. It was by arming in this manner that we at-
tained both these great objects. We had avoided the first, by
shewieg that in defelice of Treaties, and of our ancient Ally, we
were ready to go to war. It was conduct like this that %dd.,'
to the honour of a nation, and prevented other nations from
feeling inclined to attack it. The mention of an ancient Ally pot
him in mind of the manner in which that phrase was used in the
King's Speech. These was surely never such a perfect histori.
cal blunder committed as calling Turkey mar ancient AUy—(A
laugh). It •was an ancient Ally which never formed any al.
Hance with us till 1799, not quite thirty years ago. To style
them so was As great a blunder, as if the late Administration was
called the King's Ancient Administration, havitig existed about six
or seven months. It was an Ally, too; tram whom, only 20 years
back, Mr. Arbuthnot was obliged to fly, by stealth. in order that
the Troteetion acknowledged by all civil nations, to be due to the
pereeis of Ambassadors, might nut be violated in his person.
Air. CA 1.C1( AFT s .id, that he al-o would nish to
see what measures the Administration intended to propose before
he ventured to anticipate a condemnation. fly "would go further,
and say, that from the introduction into it of many of his friends,
whom lie supported in the late Administration, he hid a favourable
impression-or the course they intended to pursue; and he trusted he
should be able still to give them his support—(Hear). He con-'
cu. r,d in what had fallen front the Noble Lotd who preceded hint,
In what he bad said respecting the Gallant Admiral who bad fought
the Battle of Navarin. But the object of the Treaty was the
maintenance of peace, and a good understanding with Turkey, and
this gallant action, therefore, must be acknowledged to be an un-
toward ciecumstance in that point of view, and be confessed he
thought it was very natural and pro' et that it had been spoken of
as it had been. With regard to the Commander in Chief, which
had been resigned by the Noble Duke who now occupied the First
°Mee in the State. he bad no doubt that when it was disposed of,
due attention would be paid to the satisfaction of the important
body whose interests were more immediately at stake. With rot
spect to Portugal, he perfectly agreed in what had fallen from
the Noble Lord who spoke lase. Our troops were returning home,
after having performed the service they were sent on, to the advan-
tage of Portugal and the honour of England—(Hear) This country
bad no other course to take than that she bad taken; the alterna-
tive of hewer or diigrace was off. red her ; she had either to break
or to keep her word; she had taken the path of honour, and all
mast rejoice in the result.
Lord NORM A NBY said, that there were so many
anomalies in the construction of the Government, that till lie saw
what measures it intended to take. he should not venture to pass an
01.itatall Oil it. Ile could not address them for the first time since
the death of the late lamented Premier, without expressing his deep
regret at the loss the country had experienced. A remnant of his
friends were left, and be should have apeeted much from them,
were it not for the connections they had We, fdtmetl•
The Address was then agreed to, and, tin the motion of Lord
VA i.msnSTol.4, We Huust adjourned at HALT-rare SEVIN, ts Miura-
day next. -

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