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sew sled •Were admitted, 'all that' ap.
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is, ia face,• told that what they bad de-
e their opinion was not their opinion at all,
a feet, Roman Catholics • were not bound to-
/sibs from the Moment the Act of Union was
But the Hon. Gentleman at the bar said that
'was, that the oaths should be taken until Par.
bad otherwiassorovided, and that, by the relief
aliment had otherwise provided. Now, pi put
e sense of House whether this was an argument
,ch they would Act? • The Parliament had pro-
. otherwise, hut it did not provide that the Hon.
,giber should be admitted to sit and vote inthat
Nan without taking the .oaths. If Parliament had
rd the experiment of admitting Members into the
~. por House, without taking the oaths, by that act
...-. Parliament would have otherwise provided; but it was
, ~,possible to say that, by such an act, a Member could
ait in the House of Commons withoettaking the oaths.
. 'Vbe law was certainly changed, but it was not cbatiged
So such a way as would admit the Hon. Gentleman
leithoot- taking the oaths. A little attention to the
Insulter in which the Bill was framed would, he con-
relived, leave no doubt upon the minds of the House as
to 'the intention of the Legislature. In order to direct
that attention into what appeared to him the proper'
'channel, he would request them to remember how the
law stood antecedently to the passing of the Bill for the
' Relief of -his Majesty's Roman Catholic subjects. At 1
- ' the time that Act was passed, and previous to it. nol
Member-4001d enter that House without having first
' 'taken - the' oaths of supremacy and allegiance, not
could be afterwards sit or vote without taking the de.
• elaratioe against transubstantiation in the House—
•-•lflear, bear). Before passing the Bill in question,
- he • Member could enter that House except by the
double oath ; bat that Bill, now a Statute, recited a
certain declaration:theretofore imposed upon Members
.of that House—it repealed the Acts which required
• that declaration, but it stopped at the first section,
-- Members retusing to take the two oaths before the
..*. Lord Steward and the declaration in the House. - The
• -.ant section proceeds' to admit to sit and vote in the
•i 'other House Peers professing the Roman Catholic re-
-:. tigitioosod Such persons of the same persuasion as might
• atter the passing of the Act, be elected to that House.
• Now, the, House would observe that that was limit.
' ing• thel privilege to a certain class; it did not state
that all Roman Catholics might sit and vote, but
• that a certain .class . might do so, namely, those who
should afterwards be elected. Aay lawyer who glances
at the Act will see that there was an enabling clause as
to a patticular class, but that there were no words which
weld make it general. In his apprehension nothing
could be more clear and manifest than the intention of
the Legillature to exclude all from the benefit of that
ACt except such as were elected atter It had passed; and
.. a reason, in his humble opinion, ran along with that
• which established,not only that the Legislature had so
intended, but that their intention was consistent with
justice. It must be full in the recollection of the House,
that at the time the Roman rathelic Relief Bill was
' under* the consideration of the Legislature,• there was
• • another Act going, through its stages which, tho€gh not,
-y:inpoint of form, connected pith the 'Relief Bill, was so
substantially, and proceeded along with. it poi passe.
•1:3. What he alluded to was the Act for disfranchising ceri.
- ; pain freeholders in Ireland, and in truth that formed ae
••'. "mush 'a part of the statute under which the Honourable,
...iled- Learned. Gentleman sought to take his seat as
citzthough bosh had been embodied in one—it was as much
tlieeOptemplation as if it floated part of the Act itself,'
1,- and it was n..t consistent with 'reason, or the general
is4prietice of Parliament, to suppose that it would enact
34.thet.ea-liopourable Mather was to. avail himself of a
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_r state Of things when he was elected under the
•e- citd...-14 begged to say that be was perfectly certain
nothing like personal hostility was intended against
. ' Met O'Connell ;.but was 4.Meonsistent• with the moat'
Atei‘astieloos principles of justiceto claim the benefit of a new
' A OdiOdicioo of the law tratil he had given pp the benefit
' )''!-'to. b. Oirived from the eld? He hoped that it was
..
'';.'itiviesessary to say .more for the purpose of removing
:Abe-idea that there existed in any quarter a personal
hostility to theHott. and Learned Gentleman, or arty wish
to destrqy the effect of. his particular election. He
.would now conclude, what he ha 3 to say on that Patti-
. eerier part of the Act by saying. that even the Host. and
Leerned•CseitleMan himself did not seem to rely upon
his ease.eqnsint within the scope of that section of the
, Bill.. • Re would next, without further delaying the.
- Hots, call their attention to the fact of the Hurt. and
• "darned Gentleman himself having appeared not to
- • Tely much upon the doctrine that those who wereelected
--% heforethe passing of the Act stood upon the same footing
as those-who were elected subsequently. He.seemed,•
' however to rely upon the 10th sect. which related solely
to the acceptance of Office under the Crown, exercising
sw enjoying civil rights. The argument of the Hon. and
'-Learned Gentleman was, that the words "civil right;'
'''' iiteleded the right to sit and vote in that House. It
. • was a known rule in the construction of statutes that
2: they were boiind to look at the whole Act. and thence
.• infer the intention of the Legislatute. The first section
' of the Aet recited that it was. expedient that the use of
certain Oaths and. declarations heretofore required to be
•. ' takes by persons Wore they could sit or vote in Parlia.
... • went, before they colic{ hold certain offices, civil and
military, or before they coald exercise certain corporate
. ptittileges. should be discoetknued. Now, following
tbose.distinetious, sod observing that 'triple distssoo, it
. . provides in similar order for the vacancy %Welt the
'• previous repeak would otherwise create, there are three
dietioct operatious to be performed; but Mr. O'Connell,
it *that part of the statement which relates to the thlid,
'', • • s finds a word on which he puts his finger, taking it out
' • from the paciageaed from amongst the words with whsch
• .it 4 cilikarested, disregarding all the other words in the
10th section. He pus that single word in the front tf
, e .the battler and contended that it comprehended ever/
thing. •To use a phrase that must be familiar to both
• of diem he, upon his own showing, put himself out of
Court. The 10th section required that the oath therein
`related to should be taken before a Magistrate. Would
'went
Hoc.' and Learned Gentleman, contend that if he
- wentlehhe a Magistrate, and took the oaths that be
SFPitisttesulti be necessary, be might thereupon proceed
to take his place in that House? If the words civil
.Sight-is-thelOth section were to be taken in the enlarged
'-sense for which Ms. O'Connell contended. and that that
' .indlarted the right to sit and vote in that House, it was
. perfectly evident that the oaths were to be;taben before
*.l9tatiF4l a the Pew. Its was perfectly ready, tonsake
t.bio concession to. the, Honourable and Learned Gentle-
man, namely, that under the 10th and following sec.
%Omit here Was entitled to eiery civil right which those
;sections includid. ' The right to sit and vote ip, too.
.House was. actuttllg the. question at. butte,: and be. felt!
-tunmad that afo lawyer could fail to perceite that. the
Wtb. section not only did hot Unlade the right of• sits
voting in that Houle, hi!t actually eeelu,ded.,
'that prill_ege. iliiitsg thee laid his views *Tod. the,
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out the topics to be sae4esed, that thosevwfao differed
from him taught set atones the points to which it was,
oecessary.te apply themselves. Before he sit down lal►
would ob.erve, chit they Were bound to give their at.
fejitinti to thi effiet which their decision might have
upon future times. Looking at the law as he found
it he conceived Alt he shtiiiid move that Mr.O'Connell,:
having heen returned before the cOninientement of the
for,,the relief of hi Ntijcity's B.orean Catholic sub-.
jects, was not eatitled to vote 00 sit in thatilonse unless
he first took the oath's of supremacy and allegiance.
Mr. G. LAMB said, though some Honourable Mem-
bers seemed'to think the present a question of not mach
importance. yet he took quite a different view of it. He
had read the Roman Catholic Relief Bill with some
attention, and he could never• regard it in any other
light thin as a Sill for conferring privileges,' and
not for taking. them away, or making distinctions
between different classes of his Majesty's Roman
Catholic subjects. In order to judge of the construe
tion which the words of the Act warranted, they
should put themselves in the situation of remote
posterity ; and how could they reg.rd the point then,
uns.er consideration otherwise than as a coins orai4atal
There was nothing in the Act which could lead them to
think that the exclusion of Mr. O'Connell was intended;

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getanl would as* the Uonse if that woe the eonsttaes
[don *ostrich it isrodid be fair to put open the first sec-
tion of 'the Act ? pile would est it that, isahlti.or,
fact/ were its mrassiog7 Was it the sassing
.of tar-
lianteut, when that Act was framed. to commie the.
oath of supremacy to Catholics? WAs sot air oath
repealed. (as far as respected Catholics at least) ler
ever; and. if it remained at all, was it not intended for
Protestants shine? When the Hon. Member for Clare
appeared at the table of the House a card was handed,
to him, containing on the one side the oath to be taken
by Protestants, and oath* other the oath to be taken by
Roman Catholic.
That for the Protestants was the
oath of sepreinaey; the other, for the Catholics, was the
new oath provided in the Catholic Relief Bill. and which
was meant to consprebeed every am of persons. He
said that after the passing of this Act the Hon. Member
for Clare stood in the situation of ao individual who was
not provided for either by the old or the new law, and he
thought, therefore, that the Hon. and Learned Solicitor
bad nu right to argue that the Hen. Member ought to
be.exclusiedfrom Parliament merely because he bad not
yet been admitted. Could it be contended by liberal
red persons that the Hon. Gentleman was to be ex-
,d from his seat because no express provision was
amide for his case in the new law ? Certainly n..t. His
was, perhaps, an extraordinary ease; bet, however extra-
ordinary. should be dealt with liberally. It was impossi-
ble to attribute any intention on the part of the Hun. in-
dividuals from whom this Act had emanated to legislate
individually against Mr:O'Connell, or to suppose that
when this Act was pas-ed they had worded it in such a
particular manner with a vitro of excluding him fronrtbe
privilege of taking his seat. He was convinced that no
such intention could have existed for a moment. Since
an objection. however, hid been raised upon the con-
struction of that Act, as-respected the admission to that
House of the Hon. Member who had been elected for
the county of Clam, it became the duty of the House
to consider the question in the most serious manner ;
for it should be remembered the claims of Mr. O'Con-
nell to his seat in Parliament were not put tor ward as
the claims of an individual, but as the claims of a
large body of persons who had sent him for their
representative—(Hear, hear.. hear). If it were found
that, from any accidental omission, or from any
looseness in the manner of drawing up the Bill, it was so
worded as to operate exclusively against owe individual.
it could not be supposed that it was intentional on the
part of the Government or of the Legislature. It was
merely the result of accident. sad should be dealt with
accordingly. At all events it would be unfair to put a
positive construction upon the Ac:, which it ass evident
must be contrary to the spirit and intention of the Legis-
Wore, Tbeclaim now put before the House wasof a more
sacred and more important character than• the claim of
any individual could be. It was theclaina of therepresen-
tative of a large body of persons who had bees declared
duly elected. and who now presented himself to take his
place, and who would take his place except that he de-
nied the legality of the oaths which had beta tendered
him.. It became necessary then to debate this question,
not upon narrow or illiberal grounds, but in a Consti-
tutional point of view, as a question not telatiog to the.
admission or non-admission of an individual to that,
House, but a question relating to the rightsnad privi-
leges of all those who had sent him there,.since it mutt
be evident to every oqe that P.rliasuent could never
have intended to have legislated; against an. individna f.
The present question claimed, be insister eeery tail con-
struction which could be put upon it in favour of
the lib- rties and privileges of the people, as respecteil
the tadmission of the person) whom they. had chosen.
for their representative into Parliament; and. if ever
there was a moment at which, it a-asimportaut to re-
spect that sacred privilege, it must be. admitted to be
the present. Goveroment was disposed now, rather to ro
strict than to extend the privileges ref representation, and
the privilege consequently became, more valuable. It
was Important, therefore, that such a body of perscras
as the electors of the county of
,Clare should have'
their representative in Parliament; but, if he ueit4ll
vacated his sear, not was alloaed.to sake it. he would.
beg 'to know what course would be adovted? What
were his constituents to do? There was certainly one.
obsustation which had fallen from the Solicitor Gene
ral which had excited his surprise—it was 'in allusion
to the coustructiuo which the Honourable Member for
Clare had put upon the 10th clause of the new Act.
The Honourable Member for the county of Clare had.
argued that clause as a lawyer; but lest it should be
supposed that he intended in doing so to argue away the
common sense of the question, he. bad referred ,to the
highest authority extant for the proper construction
to be placed upon any particular word in the language.
The Learned Solicitor General sneered at the fact of the
Hon. Gentleman's having resented to the authority of a
dictionar but he (Mr. M. Isar/ would iafprm

and as the statute was one tor granting relief, and not
for imposing penalties, it'would be naturally and justly
inferred that the c,sse of the Clare election bad been
oveilaoked. That be conceived was the proper point

of view in which to regard the question. •Bia statute
of Henry VI. respecting a trial of the Duchess of
Gloucester for witcbcraft, it was enacted that all Noble
Ladies, Duchesse., Countesses. and Baronesses should
enjoy the benefit of Clergy ; Marchionesses and Vis-
countesserwere not included. but after ages held that
that was an accidental omission, there basing been at
the time no individuals in the peerage bearing those
titles. The case of the Hon. And Learned Gentleman

was perfectly analagous, and he confessed himsel
unable to discover on what ground it was proposed to
exclude him without a clause in the Bill at all referring
to the case.
Mr. FERGUSSON contended that the case of
.Mr.
O'Connell was included in the Bill, and that, therefore,
he could not be admitted without taking the oaths as
prescribed by former statutes. The Honourably and
Learned Gentleman, by the able statement which he
had that night modem the House, had proved, so far
as his own personal qualifidations went, his well earned
tight to represent in Parliainent the constituents who
had sent him thither ; he had proved also. that his
qualifications would render him a valuable acquisition
to that body (the House of Commons). but he (Mr.
Fergusson) regretted to think that he could not sit with•
out previously taking the oaths. All who were not ad-
mitted by theßelief Bill were excluded.To acknowledge
the justice of the arguments of Mr. O'Connell was tanta-
mount to saying that before meant after, for in order to
establish his right to sit he should prove that he be-
longed to the class which the Bill had in contemplation;
that it was limited to a Claes was, he Conceived, indis-
'potable. It was inconsistent with the ordinary course
and practice of legislation to proceed retrospectively.
There was nothing unfair or unjust in requiting that
those who wefe elected under the 'old laws should come
ii. under its provisions. The Hon. Member fur Clue
relied much upon the words of the tenth section. It
would be admitted that the rightist voting and 'sitting
in Patliainent was the highest civil right, and the,
species of civil right spoken of in the 10:h sect. was far'
inferior. Now, the interior could never include the su-
perior. As it respected the Hon. Member for Clare he
did lament that 'the law operated to his esclusion—
(Hear, and a laugh). Yes, whatever Hon. Members
might say, he did. llama it. He had given his vote
for Etn.ncipation most cordially; and he should notch
'egret that any one would suppose him capable of any
lukewarmness or indifference. He bad supported Eman-
cipation not on personal grounds, or with reference to
Breland, but on the broad principle that no man should
labour under civil disabilities on 'account of religion.
Mr. M. FITZGERALD said be was not among the
number of those who doubted that the Hon. Member
lamented the exclusion of Mi. O'Connell. The question
was no doubt to be treated judicially, and, as the Hos;
and Learned Solicitor General had said, the House was
bound to divest itself of any partiality, and to consider
the question upon its general merits, and in a general
point of view, without reference to any particular case.
That'Hon. and Learned' Gentle Man must allow him
(Mr. M. Fitzgerald) to express WI admiration, not only
at the talent, but at the temper with which be had a&
vanced his arguments to the House. He had advised
the House, in the discussion of the present question, to
dismiss from its consideration the part which it had been
the fortune of the Hon. and Learned individual whose
case was the present subject of debate to take ip the
past history of his country. Such advice was correct and
proper, and such as he trusted would be acted upon. It
was impossible for such a plain unlearned person as
himself to approach *question dealt with almost in-
clusively by lawyers without a powerful conviction of
his own ineapacity to compete with them, or to (teal
with the, question purely upon points of law. He. felt
conviece.i that there could be no person who would
not tremble to find himself opposed to persons of such
learning as those who had already addressed the House
upon this subject.' it was a great relief to him that,
in reference to the case now before the House, there
.was not much occasion for learning. It certainly ap-
peared to him that the maxims laid down by the Learned
Solicitor General himself would lead the House to come
to a conclusion. against him. The Hen. and Learned.
Gentleman had said that. in constructing an Act of Par-
liament. the House should not apply its attention to it
in one point otview only, but should consider it in its
genera il Anse, The same argument bad been urged at
the bar of the House that night by the Hon. Member for
Clare, who had entreated the House to consider the Act
not a Roo soy particular clause alone, but upon its general
sense. It was bis(Mr. M. F.'s) wish to do so in 'the ob-
.:mentions which be had now to submit to the House; it
was his wisb to get at the real spirit and character °fibs
Act, and not to apply himself to disjointed points. or to
the considetationiat paraicular portions of the Bill alone.
But how. had 'be fioaourable and Learned Solicitor-
:General dealt' with the Act?- He had argued Upon
farticular claoses, and had refised to consider them in
referencA toothemgehest said that it was unfair- toltake
the fhb section, and to pat'. construction upon it by what
,waassid in. other clauses. Again,.he had contendetethat
it was unfair to consider the 10th sect, in reference to the
Was the Hun. Member for Clare bad urged his right
to. dn.. 13i the kat stectioo of the new Act the dead-
'ration which prerepted the admission of Catholic,tothe
,Roue waasepealedi but the Learned' Solicitor General
,here, chose to4bnsider the first section, not by itself. but
.4 reference to andther. I...lesoi4Abat, considering the
!fir*, gutlen with, the took bo was bound to believeihat.nkaafa uosild inter. that. House without having
assisan..tba oath. at supremacy unless it were Cotholicil
;who ample have been elected akar else paatult qfE
YbeCatholic Relief he (Mr. 'M. Fits.

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b 4 aid elide& le pod, foe aft septie;piej co
sheik would have no hesitation in taking the oaths. To
this reason he mild .uot agree, fg. at all events, the
osonseet a Catholic took those oaths he loft his caste, and
fiisoldassociates would no longer extend to him the band
of fellowship,
.sb that thelaw.would remain fully effec-
tive as it was intended that it should be.
Er JAMES SCARLEII nett addressed the House.
Ha .was by no mesas prepared to go the length of the
arguments advanced toping the Hon. Member for
Clare; but, at the same lime, he admitted that he be.
lieved the Acts referred to relating to the taking of the
oaths in the. Lord Steward's office verse repealed. The
lioneerable one Learned Gentleman then entered into
.slie history of thou: Acts, in order to prove this pod-
deo, aid said that if the Honourable Member's taking
his seat depended, upon thjs, be should feel...bound
to vote for the motion of the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman opposite—(the Solicitor General). He next
came to the Act of Union, and in speaking of this be
begged to premise. that he was never consulted upon
the subject by the ./lotts limber for Clare, and had
never given an opinion directly nor indirectly upon the
subject. He would now proceed to say that be was
rely much struck by the omission in the Act of Union
of any penal clause whatever. The Hon. Member then
proceeded to argue upon the purport of the various
clauses of the present Act, and said, that he was by co
means prepared to vote either way in so doubtful a case,
without further deliberation ; but still, if the 'question
was pressed to a division, he should feel intlided to
give his sopport to the motion of his Hen. and Learned
Friend ;.for the impression he laboured under was, that
Mr. O'Connell was not entitled to take his seat.
Mr. C. W. WYNN referred at great length to the
various Acts of Pailiameat and Parliamentary prece-
dents.opon the subject, and contended that Mr.O'Connell
was entitled to take his teat • The Catholic Peer, under
the new Act, was enabled to take his seat—the member
of a corporation was allowed to do so, and yet Mr.
O'Connell was to be excluded, merely because he had
been elected before the passing of the Act. This was
an inconsistency which he did not think the House could
with a doe and proper regard to their digoity.be guilty
of—(Cheers). Still, as there appeared •to be a doubt
upon the subject, he thought the better 'way would be
to make a declaratory Act upon the 'Abject. is favour
of Mr. O'Connell (Great cheers).
'Mr. DOGHERTY said, he felt regret that be should
he obliged to vote against the admission of the Hon.
Member for Clare, though his inclination was in favour
ofbis doing so. He felt pleased, however, at the re-
Section that his exclusion would be but for a very short
time, and that if now rejected. the time would be very
brief before he would again be in possession of the object
et his legitimate ambition. The Hon. and Learned
Gentleman then entered into legal arguments to show
that Mr. O'Connell could not take tiffs seat without being
reotlected. He was happy chit not I single Member
of that House had shciwn theilibitert personal feeling
stainst Mr. O'Connell during the whole course of the
chibate.which had taketi place. On the contrary, they
would feel gratified, be feleconvinced, &they could
conscientiously vote in his favour.
Mr. BROUGHAM contended that. where an Ho-
nourable Member who hid spent his whole life, as his
HoeourabW Friend the Member for Peterborough had
done. in combating legal difficulties, and yet confessed
that in this case he felt the greatest doubt, no other
Honourable Member, however great his Parliamentary
experience, need be ashamed of evossing that he also
lelt a doubt upon the subject. Be did not think that the
Solicitor General had succeeded in'removing the diflicul-
tie. the case, and nu one Member had replied to Mr.
O'Connell's argument as to the Act of Union: that Act
of Union says that these oaths shad be administered until
karliaeleia shall otherwise provide. Parliament had
nose otherwise provided, and dive( see those oaths could
no longer beenforced.• • The HunoUrable Member pro-
ceeded to contend, that is it was admitted on all hands
that a griveiand serious doubt existed, the benefit of
that doubt ought to.be given to the Hon. Member for
who would other wise be exposed to a great hard-
whip% which be was aute was not the' intention, because
ivis disavosied. of thus who
.bad framed the Act.
6. MI. PEEL. said, that although the import.
ant question under the is nssderatinn s f the House was
of that nature ghat those, who were . not possessed of a
legal educatiatilo an experieace in legal matters must
necessarily feel great difficulty in coming to.a decision,
gill as the Lay Members of the House were not freed
fiont the responsibility' of acting with respect to it in a
jodicial capacity, he 'hoped the House woolen:ear with
art while be cadeavosied to state the considerations
which would direct his vote. He looked atthe question
as purely jod cial ; and doing so he begged' it to be
understood that be spoke only in his individual capacity
Me-icier of • House. He' - bow( ob-

--Y. - s. as. _ .zgeralJ) _ as a ,leml mat _ _ muu, . 'ever,
hem that law books were not the only authority in that WM!, difficult as he felt the subject to be, that
klause; and since that was the case Me would ask, what he had come to a conclusion so far sati-factory
be'ter resort could be made than to the common iinse to* his mind; from its beissu,supported by and in
of any term or earressitin ? He hoped that, for so ling ,coocureetics with the opinions,pf three of the most
at least as he should have the honour of sitting in the eminent lawyers in the country. ,sfie found his conchs-
House. it would act upon the common sense of the moons in entire accordant' isith those of his Honourable
questions that came before it, rather than upon legal and Learned Friend the:Solicitor General, that the re-
quibbles or technicalities. If lawyers .in the present spit of the vaiy able considerations of the Hon. and
instance had biouglst the House into perplexity and Learned Member for Peterborough was a determine-
doubt, they might depend upon it that it would not lion similar to his own; and that hii own reasoning and
resort to them to get ont—(Hear.) The House would reflections were completely sustained by the very power-
'take a direct aqd honourable coarse to relieve itself tul arguments and statements of the law which had
from any difficulty into which' it' might have been been produced by the Honourable and Learned Mem-
thrown, and would not fail to rescue itself from the for Weymouth"... Its making these Observations he
stoat odious imputation which could attach to it, not had no intention to undereelat otbei- ibthorities.—
qnly at home, and on the continent, but in every part He would then address hinitelf imettediately to the
If the world—the imputation of having framed an Act subject before the House. He wax hot pittarlii to admit
in such a manner at purposely to operate to the injury that the Ait of Esisabeth, that which imposed the ne-
Of au individual. He had felt it his duty to make these cessity of taking the oaths of supremacy Sad abjuration
°Nervations, but he should now no longer occupy the betide the Lord High Steward.. had hen repealed by
attention of the House. In conclusion• he begged to the Ist of William and Mary. He bad made allthe re-
say that, under all the circumstances• to which be had search he could into that part of the sithjicti. and he did
adverted, be should certainly give his vote in favour of not find any reason to believe that thetilasirious men
the motion of the Hon. Member for Dungarvon. . who (turned the Ist of William and.Maiy intended it
Mr. FERGUSSON rase to captain a past of his speeeh which should have any such effect. The Ike. Hon. Gentleman
the Han. Member appeared to have mistaken. .All. that be bad thought sufficient light had not been thicket/ upon the
said mow, that di*" Members who were elected dues this Actwers Act of. the Bth of William 'and Mary. It was certainly
'meiotic(' from the operation of the old law.
sr.
aileso they wok. the oast BATTEY thought It dear that the, sambaed mAgebsis the intention of Parliament to carty the provisions of
who were elected bites, it had lissieds .
the Ist.Of and Mary into effect.' The' woads of
of supremacy. • • • • • that Act vine remarkable. it enactedillift awl peeson
Mr. SUDDEN said, Mr.O'Connell, in the first letter entering into office in any capacity-W.44 iakethe oath
be addressed to the Membeis of that.HOOW. was as at such time and id such manner as thip fOrmer oaths
coesdent to sit under the Act of-Unicitt, ai be is now had been administered. In 1689, a fdl'iliottas after the
under the Relief Act. As to the applicatioMof the sth passing oftbeAct., new Pas' liament had beeVanmasessed,
Of Elisabeth to the Hon. Member's case, it was a matter and if it had been intended to reline Members of Paris-
that regarded the Hon. Member himself more than the -meat from takingtheonths beforetheLoed EleWard,some
House; for that Act roe ides,th at if a Member enters that one must have found it out. It appeased* the Joorrinh,
House without having taken the oath of supremacy be- that the Duke of Devonshire, March 20,1689. the daron
fore the Lord' Steward, he shall not be cornpeteot to sit in which Parliament itiet.atieeded as leirdffteward to swear
that Hoti'se daring the duration of that Parliament. the Members'as they came into the House and the oaths
He was aliaid the Honourable Member for Clare had were administered iv the usnil way. That occurrence
brosight.himiellinto that situation, that if he should be 'proved that it wasnot the intemiiinot Parlfallient to die-
teweleoteck.heconld net take his seat during the present pease with the oaths. The Hots. and Leashed Cantle-
, Parliament. • That Act bad been in operation fqr
.man had argued, that upon a question which depended
and the, Eloise was. now called upon to say that upon nice distinctions, they were boned to give an in-
the. 414.44- .Union had pot say and to all itspeoaltim, dividnel the advantage. If it' was,a queition. whether
was said that the etreitof the old oaths was admit is penalty should be inflicted upon an individual, it

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4(a.

EVEVL.NG grAw,

..ord .Surrey, toe 55....
Instead of the, Honourable Member for Clare,. it mashie
(Mr. Peers) firm conviction that the House of Commons
you'd deal, with it precisely in it. sialillif,laanalre.ipos
'similar grounds. and in referencato the-operational the
Jaw ander which he was elected. The Honourable and
learned Geatlensan's argumeoeupoe -the provisions of
.the Act of Won were futile. He could sot under.
::.laud that a Member setursed. to Parliemeht Were
00 passing of ao Act could be in the unto situation
One . returned after the passing of as Act.—
, Much had bees said .about -the amendment proposed
by Lord Tenterden in the. other Heft* t bet if it bad
Memo carried, it would have lett the question is the
same state. With respect to the. Actior the relief of
the., Roman Catholics. they would find by the leth
01.Ctian that the plain object •and meaning of the Act
• .ehat tho eaclusion of Mr. O'Coonell. The Act in the
-section was , prospective: Upon the whole. said
iddr.Secietary Peel. 4' I considet it my Unladen duty to
act only upon the legal constitiction to be put on the
Act.. 1 see by putting the consiluctanc4ist:a. certain
• way. thatull its provisions amcoosistont.antits hues,
tiqn, was to exclude Mr..OrAntaall. ffifilt*ssit in 44°
House. Hiloonsttnuit italic/tucker way. the
slow are. kmennistent. 'sod, slifer,tboes chamomiles%
•:- I 4° n" glinfea, to atif of tireAsgunisoks of the Hit-
entlensso. 1 think the Ay-Oculist* Mr. ()Toone%
uefote lent prepared tomitoosiientiously.and
,vote f,,r the Ktholotion of my Hon. Friend."
Thu "maim war tbm badly caned ter. and rue Hesse distil.,
• . Ver. the mules Ito I Assiut it 116
.1%. •
the tiettchor-deserars

ie. • modes,
Ote ohlr: thir gallery. the lisseetros.flasssar.
stelwool. rivet` MlLAYConsuil he kdbd its. sad asked whether be still
. to Wei the Oath of Iggrestacy Its; sestioothaefes bow
r the S ism was givisi order, to the liergsanvet•Atwei
'l. Mr. Ot to cope to the Bar., when Mr. 8a01140411
could Sot 'betakes at that host. std aerated tin
• sthe queadiso should* put to Mr. O'Connea another day.
- SiIIACITOR.ORNERAL said. he Amid set object to
theApseeftg beintput to-morrow before leer o'clock.
Mg. VatOtKni AM said the preceedisge might -6616 'the
. . edgier. 6 diatsky. They ought to atheider whetter the 7,16010
• breve Mr. Crceiteell eisbject to do Sth of glisebedel • •
• The' SPIFAIPSR swirl the propothiss was, whether lir. O'Css.
wen amid be Seitedito thebar of the Hovel
• Mr. littoo43llkill whited so hood.- whether dem was asy
Pfeeelieet foe she oath telelistod to a Mosher e 1 ghat Hosea
• eteeding at fist tau?' . • ~. •
The &FLUE ithseteped in the negative, bet asidk was ni.
weary toaseeneiss stiatitag Xt. (goes& weig tabs the pat/
Mr. Secretary [t .riot Mr. had rilkied
to take the eeth, Atkalisi SMiikal was fellowed by a dais to take
soother oath. •No 06'' t.of kis M. mid Loused Fated's
stories was to lewd Mr. O so eFoearrek7 melee& hem
his refusal to take thirestkif Sercoreacy.
• Mr. BROUGHAM did use of tti the ageb of the Has. and
Learned Geodesists net to 66 Mt. cressido,
•to potting es each to idea Is es impreper skulks. •
Mr. Secretary Pkg.L thought there geoid be eai obieeties to
Mr. O'Connell attending twenostele• Air His. and Lreeeir
• Friend was desirous that a comusesicades should be slide:rakt
as pewit^. be acrardingly- steved that Mr. Manned be
fo attend. the Horse to-iserrow at Awe o'clock. sod that to
Speaker do cennounitati to him eheasealsdess of the House. aid
ask whether he still -retailed 6 taketho Oaks( Soptcyascy ?
The Qoestlea was put and. Inkultd. • • ,
•
• The ittelauser Mlle INN Wee reedlike semis" Op. •
Abe Ripon of the Cpassedated Feud Bill wee reales&
• Mr. HUUK rose, la . the Order of the pay ist reoelehallha
Report of the lfacheque 818. Food* BM and sussed a IMP
, leeks expressing Mageesset spinet the fending of der three ft&
. Ilene of Fachequer 11111., on the gnawed that s auk low wool'
fall on the publk. •
Mr. HUMS. after a few word; hose the, Cbsseellor of 'the
Ka. chequer, withdrew his mition for the greteeis end the efirl
sietios having beetiagrowl to, the 11111 was esileted t* bet a
third *otos Thersda sent.
The kerma of the Visit .11111:16 bassist up, the
arnetiliseste age gial to, whit the pi; idiots.* 144.1,1444
Ilene es-Friday 031.3,
...Ate Repeatof thejfkk Miaow was eg;eili tos had• the
litakiiiiiits.be attldniiikieskoadrig
wee reed a eigkeS Slaw
tisk day. . •
TM Bo ot the Irish liege tligisegi4lll6 094611. wt/
the 11Miethrwl is). mad avilitioaiiikb . a; • .
Mk &part of the Anabiligr.,llll imire-111,
genetics that kbe . . - . •
. lard •F. Ossoatni wormed as as coikeserei that the Poe
pert 16.6660 that dap threkilakities.
'Lord MlLToll.esid be thought the imeels6 hvistise hananr-
log to the 'saw of eartaiwskseil of •iletlelededob _ • it'eeseei
to-Mat that khad no little censeedes slid* reiligtos. floss eleties:
rum innswilaiely affected by ft *liras*
_led tocuppeeil.that what
they considered as i part of the established rellglik d the ostastry
• was disregarded. ea tar as they were esseersed. , He Mink! Nip-
pon the ansendossmof Ml Noble Friend. , •
- After a few,words.frost Sir R. los, is sepgigtfei-ilsournend-
smut. the Roues divided— ~• . • •
Fur the mottos [For the amendastst 014**1 ' •
• The &port was toecitud. •• .
• (11th. question that the SM•be • read 'a ddrdelitikilosiorrow,
an soulndistest
dwasjmosed that it he road:a AMA Arne owfri7
day. the. Howe
For the.oefetnal sodas St Fer the usesdniest ••7
The Irish Eduesitio &deletes were 06464 6 WiMoy •Ivar
The oda& Orders wets dispoird of, and the li*s 'adjourned,
at Hatt ran 'Outs.

74

s "fti ilia h . • ~
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.4. . .
". . ' nuseoscr'. MAY 19. fit`.. 1
48".. : 4-.:
esocr'pra tociui-irdrivo O'CLOCK.
1 646-11rodt 4466 6 • . Ws* sr
$ psr Cips.fted. II 4 Ti T Avonnkle. , '
•
S 'pit C 4 Clair 04 6 ;New ow. • .
%PS ChOk!flet,94 • ~. • driseo saw* Imo, •$
Se issOst. am os siot Asa vim n• is
. 41me 0,064411404, t 4641) sod .06* Otto 0 .74
4 per *wall"! 1051 1 t
L4s4 AO. Me , • =I :le t.
Lila INDe6:611111 ' Ono& fer Kea 471 1
- ' nit 'PUMA lirir ircLui:lC '
.17
Breellas 11 Ne 5.166414411. Op c 4.
DwAsois . Ds A.m.%
CsileZ=ll"4 WO. . • 1te1ea42.11118.4 p (6.
Dti. 731. i• . Ds. Atm. NS
Walsh W 61.11 Off . Spud* Ns s p Ct. $
Pm .110d6.. • • Ds. Asa. •
BRIM!! ADM rounOts *HA Kik TWO O'CLOCK.
a way. aim
Anus Kieskas. sea ica
Illobvilitha .... 4 se
au*" Si so ss s?
Preikekik* ' KO 1 Ai 160.41 lb

r

The desaios of the Howe of Camases, last sight,
era• against Mt. O'CosureLee claim to mite his Mat as i
Steady iftli Clam After some preliminary &cassia
ea a Mr etirepostatit point,-Handy, whether Mr.
own & should be heard at the bar or at the
table of the Hesse—that Gentleman was at length

called to the bar, nod informed by the Smits that
et nifinisebad resolved toilets him on his claim to sit
• and vote is Member for Clare, without tint Wig
•. . .

takes the oaths of allegianch supremacy, sad abjn•
jurailon. In a speech of considerable length, Mr.
almasloniag • bicold• and 'tamable pod*
tits 4.kaßtit. right to dt sin the strength et‘11•1
ffereete lew;thsted lus claim priniipally on the new law
although be Visit have been fully awaretbat the Relief
'Bill applies only,
to those Members elected lifter the
passing of the Act. There is a good deal of ingenious
pleading and soffpersuasion in Me.O'Cornates speech.
He After the Relief Act had passed, would
it be for the Anwar and digoily of the House that they,
should refuse him.? He was the Representative of a
disinterested. a demoted, he alight almost say a erert3ired
people, and his thought this Hoooerable House would
no) deal so harshly either by bias or them. as to refuse
him **light tor• whkb hapow humbly contended.s
..:Tlii:House, however. thought differently from Mr.
• O'Couvezt.; the letzeicoa•Gasaitat. having shown,
in'the clearest possible light, that " the honour and
digeky of the House," (so called by. Mr. o•Ctiwasis4.,)
Would be coinetethised by'aelmitting hiss, is
eisqualified cooditioni. The SoLicyroa:Oestioasobis.
moved.-•" Thit it is the .pinion of this Heise, that
'lll4o'Cost eau,. having been returned to Parliament
fore the pessing of the Relief pin, boot stow to sit
end vote Unless be previonsly take the buds-of &pre.
macy.."—: After a lengthened debate, the flosiseilli vide d,
'heather* appeaseisl9o far the nipiicia. aid leigainst
44"4111jOil agaiWit daisis 74. Thus Mr. Mises ta:
,isdeemded; at least for tbs pmt. 4.4abi.biatarsod
dignity' Of iipeiseaoasAls leeele of Clue. We can:
net but consides:the decides-7U the House; iist,his reib
spat, as wise and salutary. Mr. O'Comisto,,besides,
-'labouring under the obvious disqualification of the old
covenant election, was the Representative of the Forty
Wiles Freeholders of Clare-4 body no looser in
existence. He bas now to go back to Clue ; and when
be is elected- by the
:Tess Pound Freeholders, and
takes the oath whiCh Lord Swum took. nobody cal'
question his right to Sit and esti the Hoses. of.
Commons.

The emeite do 71111111. at lioaday last ajisfsiset tbet tie its'
dadoes aikido had bees opened by the ' Math Osumi st Toads
with the Dot of Amass have completely fueled. . The Du refuses
aA indemnity in tie asset s war. which be' alleges wisher to
have suited icor seconds sad haaally dares shat M. de Litenn.
the Treads Copal. may vet usable bin am Mete arm dm
subject. Private lettersfortber state. &ash* Dsr bee iet• about
fortifying the whole cam 'or Boehm; to that K • haws should
*kb is worth white to lit sot as orpedidea aphid Ida. ital.
sjihs asuldersble somber of troops to meseed. The Dar'
declares that he shill rue doe fhb of • Wit, Whish bat Mines
*be *est. •
The same Paper tialaisates dist the Coast, de Vast: Ikea
ask Patio sa the tech bat. fer Louden; and that M. Cutessuce,
lately Ambassador of spda, at Lhbei. is sppented to the same
=
ham. Mau the Gaga dr boner,the Newsy robe
or the .11eMasse. made say . additional sews ham the
.sost ed war la the Sem it ilareph ' •
:The elklal panel thelkailier is almost noted** aelisded
with *Report ed the state of tits floods la Frame, sad oa tits beat
'woes if misplielp.mal repairiurthem, It *add appear by shit
aspen that thoodhilealtb et the nods, called the Royal ands,
is Omit Clio hapset dad 000 leaden wolf Sr. b 110.4 tasatim
/1.1410 league 'NO* malidotoble npdn—thst then is.
$l4 hopes to eriagista,lei 41Iai tto arm Ito total doused
tit moiled. itefilaniated 1 eedscatod at *4OOOO Eraseer-
tbM
malt lea agalits4, toestimat, d 0 easiest ef the impel,:
ticket Nam el die Prod& limbialaer.. the' &Poet y testrig
teeth ebs thr ossituyio abuty tee N wimisaltl. At the cams
dam the ablator* an repossessed as sash. that as ripsailtan'
en any 14e dowernefol et mare prodsedre 4' sad doui Zino
ippleatel at the appalaumeat Coatallasisiert to late the
subjoin, and teary tlbt desired lasproveiteiti heti thief.!
Tama Ferrer .Passe. Mar 14.—Fivi per Costa 101 f. Obi::
I.ll.4figas par Coma. NIL We. foe. 791.-. flak 1ti05h.14,971161:i
34M3tctueli. agf. Lia...ltelal. Spanish Lem. 794.-lisydasUms.
bimire
ea Lasaloa, sae awe* 11#.1130. Mins laaltillV
lefroeiihreatilhatitas.

The following extracts trout the German Papers ar
. •
highly intetestiag; the as tide front teipsic we conuadlet
particularly so. Here we have the very satisfactory
(Mama that a grail demand exists, not Only on the
Continent d ]hope for English manufactured goods,'
bet that the Oriental visitors to Leipxic are anxious to
be sapplkd froin the West--Sason, Yvossiait, German,'
Austrian, as well as English woollen cloths, being
eagetly sought after by them. •
RONA Kw
Oa aettottatt a stows worm did a great deal et untie( In the
.pen mid read et Legborn, rive ships wet &Wu onthore. and
eight thisk—Aogruer, onus( the whole of the crew. were saved.
amt. Von Leasing and Cunt de Cebu. the Ambassadors
Prusbabd the Netherlands, have already preiented their new
ciedentigis to its Holiness the Pope. Hie iletisess has sprinted
a Cesignissiim to deliberate on the emigres it maybe advising to
adopt in she internal adntinktration. It I. said that this Coramis.
lien will especially consider the state din Sauces. It awns el
the Cardinal Demos, the Gunnel Caineriensopadd Wdlua
Pace, Greprie, and Pandbii.
Varga. Mar 7.—Matalliques. Wtir.astik Awn, 1.11•36.15 y
Ageseing damn. Mr, la.
• WARSAW, Annie
After the coronation his Hilliness the Otand Dike Constenne.
win .p to. Ways. whither the ingtotor will as. as at a Isar
period to review the Gouda, which will net take say pert in the
campaign. but remain the Principalities. late which they wn)
march as*eoen w they have been reviewed by the Ingisprot.

LEIPZIC. May M -jo
Our fair becomes meth store lawsnable this was expected. ;l
consequesse of the large purchases made by the Moldavia's, WA.
Isaias% Georgians (from Tails). Persians, sod Amman%
in articles of loamy and in Recisions* fee the armies, wblips ROWS
fiefs Do supply at A or- at much higher prices-. We expels
that what peace la metered in the Law these Asiatics will be.
mime constant Alters of Abe fair. They have 'visited 141 s,
Alsace, Swiniebod. losodon. and Illeashorgh, and /ad es twit-
wind that this place is the best to make their purchases. es
ism* of ebe splashy and !variety Ilse arddes. The fumes et
Beiness. Ousepelotod Andre, bad made sorb lure sales of Zoglish
geode, that it began to be doubted whether there
would be a endiciest quaky to wet tite damned. Oer oriental
nmeaters have; however, made large perch see d Mauna
dB% Mid Asenbomasofacturoe. aid eves give farther orders
to pa merinee; day bought a great quantity of Gamut
slash. Lesguseders Sam monism have been gems for the
Leung, bus the stimuli have bssght bet few. Alm ghee the
Prussian sat ananefecturiee at Serbs and an the Mae rival or
nest these et Lyme. in beauty, quality. aid cheapens. the sale of
Much be at the fair he. denies& The old hems, Defoor has
glees op ice eemblisimiwit here end at Dtustewid, but helth the
geserosity peedier ft the old emtemential Muses. has Witt re-
craned its old and Odini agents and salaams to Lyme, or given
them sesteigleraWa piisbum ter Ilis.—Alearthergdwit. N. it.
CITY. Twaims o7Cs.occ.
Conde spend silt mornl.g at-171 for the Auwast. at which
peke they new remidn. &hessian:ly buyers sad Ilan. with little
ornothkos
Tbe Foreigs modes le dm Isective,usd the PION err. semiwl.
Hewn Tows Para. have beim nuesed ot the Wised led
both Asterisms cease-hew to the fad of aossushsv. •
mu mo siesise vows mows u ens blionormsonm
Them*, of wheat• swine to'be ardor *Amos thit two
pirridkoi woee ti de best/reifies minimum to e.t.d.*. ow

onset Wen for ts. 54. lid. per lb. and mitten MHO 1441.
to ld.
ToesdarMs Gnaws , Itossisso arrived in theta, with five
'Wm Births. whom he apprehendrd. The whole tribe Outdated
tat on_peemems, saade disk mope : amens the fires is
their King. •
UPPER: CLYDE.
Ima tarry to my that notwithaandleg the Prochmstlea, the
natives have made tbeir appeerame at four relate. We leers that
the blacks have made a most audacious attempt at aturderlng four
of the Company's shepherds, who inhabited a diatom hut.
,CItY. HALF-PAST ONB O'CLOCK.
The Coned market has a very Sins appearance et present, and
Consols nary brgooted et 1171 I for the Amount. and nag for the
oust Aseoent.-ahlimigh the Saving Banks have disposed of fifty
thoussed In the early part of the day.
Ifs can state, ea authority front a quarter which seldom or ever
lim Idled it Infensietiom, that the ntement the French and English
Arikawarkare MOM at Constantimple, the Sums will make pm.
theesigh the medium of the above Ambassadors, to the
of amen. for the makable termination of their existiag
Mersey's. It Is understood dat &epitomise on the part of the
Gamma Sown are very moderates and that it Is expected they will
met be entirely refused by the Emperor of Russia.
• •

NAVAL INTELLIGENCE.

I Mans Leanne Toss Dar...Doikw 10-Whtetford 1-France 1.
'Ow Asp, (lehaier). of Londe., Kaarkt, was totally wrecked
Mir Hedge Body wear Madagascar, on the 17th of December-
drew saved.
Auxasessa Magee 17.-The Aurora. Jackson. sailed hence
for Mika en the, lick Instant, and put back on theillst with mein,
'nwevepreng. having "swim:al a lever. gale.
klatass. May 11.-Tbe vessel, bound through the Straits peon.
coaled •oa their voyage, on the 31st ultimo, the wind having,
dew( to the Eastward. Upwards of 100 sail passed. dale pert.
l'imirisifiey. The Easterly wind still continues Mowing fresh.
1 • Deal., MAT 11.-Wiad N.& by E.-Arrived from Leadiwthe
TIM*, Breadford; for Barbadoes ; Hope, Matthews, for Trinidad;
end Cambria, Griswold, for New York. Arrived the Upton
coetle, •—• from Bombay; Borodino. Ileatrap. from Mauritius.
Pmemitoop, :kimr 111.-Wind S.ll -Arrived the limeeelli.
. Epistle. from Batavia. Parsed the Falco., Elwell,
; Michael. Faith, from Tobago • Medina,
;std from Puerto Cabello.
71%....C10011Cit MAT IS.-Wind variable.
.11ftsonie.. Mee 16.—Sailed the Eeperance. lumber', for New
11111041bont Havre de Gram.
Illniestmo, May 17.-Atrived elf port the Apes. 'llhaphy,l
front Illaranitam; out 55 days.
SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. •
NEWMARKET SECOND SPRING MEETING.
Maseme's Races.
•
~, • • Match 100 ems. each. h ft. T.Y.C.
r.. Idris Stepheaa's Kildare, Mt 101b-receival. •
Mark'. Wood's Nessus, Mt.-fait
• ' Sweepstakes of 10 ems. each for syr eits.-Dld am AK •
k. Match 100 sows. h ft. T.Y.C.
titlark Wood's John de Batt, la sib
filtarey's Laametrian. let 761 b
Woo by a leagth.
. • • Handicap Sweepstakes of 10 save. each-A.F.
Sowetby's Coroner, 4 yrs. Tst 411 ••
. O'Cansor's DllOlOO, 4 yrs, tut tub ..s
Otarille's Goshawk. S yn, let 10Ib •••
• Mk. klosidaorottre Plea. 4 pi. Tat leb
Lord Sehee's ilobadilla, 4 yrs, set fib. •••
Won two lengths.
•
. THE. SPITAL ULU'S wmAvERs. .
.- CONTINUED DESTRUCTION 4)11" SI LK.
leverd weavers were yesterday placed at the bar of the Wee.
abipareet Ogee, charged with malkiettslycuttiog Ind destroying
the sSk, Ste. entrusted to than to weave. Iliety gave their moot
Henry Hughes and Martha Hughes (hue wife). Yon& Doweemo
and Sarah Bristow (kis apprendce).
• The first case examined was that against Henry Hughes and
wife, for cutting two looms'. work of silk, the property d Rubin'
I Hunt.
Sir. Haut prom( the delivery -of the silk to the mask prisoner.
He added, he always placed great confides's, b the prisoner, and
he sever cemplathed about the pice.• He need to be paid s; pie
Yard; bat elms the Moused= of property commenced. be .114 e
mesived the full pricy and he (Mr. Hunt) had ghee notices to that
dew.
John Upson, a Bow-street petrol,. appelanded the yriemapri;
be aim saw the manlier Is which they work bad been cut ; the mile
primmer gave him Information.
Mr. Dammam (to the male peitoner),-Yee need net say lay'
thing without you like, as it will be taken as evidence against. you ;
bat it yen wish to car leer diemser you most glee some eapia-
assion.. • • , •
The male•prisenee said. sheet sight necklet on Saturday teasing
went to the trade meeting at the Mee Amber in Little York-
street, and left say two Iowa? workmate; I returned a Mule before
twelve, cad Mocked at the street door; my *rife 1.4 -ma in; she
impaired to leak very pole and confused; I asked her what was
the matter; she was ito.agitated that she could not answer one di-
rectly. I thee sand bee if any thing had unused twiny week ;the
mid that sheet a quarter past *vas ester* +knock eamcat the
meet door, she lookhdaet of the whack* and saw two mem who
asked bee edam she worked fdr ? abs Molested at fist to tell them ;
obey Ibmeack drew arpletM hem theirlteam, and threatened to
blow Mr brain cut if the did net aril; she then told dieuefor
Mt. Hest; they thee desired her to caned:ma and opea eke Sofa.
er else An should be a deed woman; she was very ntuch frightened
and spoiled die door ; two men tithed M. blew out the candle, and
sold bar if she stirred, or pee the least alarm. she would he a dead
woman ; they theo went up stairs and desusyed the *hole of
die silk.
The fans& pima said. that what her husband had stated was
Mt. Datten-4f the female plemer had even gall out 'at her
hock doer, she might have walked Its a neighbour's beam, and
gives an alarm.
Mr. Hunt said bidid employ 150 bands. but since the Aman-
da; elf eilk memorised he had reduced the number to 70. lie
that might be the cams for their ilestroying.las propertyfaarisatinstram-41tbe weavers were linty paid id. per yatd, it
would be se meat for dewy/in their master's prepeety. •
Philip Dent, a journeyman weaver, stated-The prisoner and I
are the delegates of Mr. Hunt's work people;. kir. Hunt gave me
a WI, dated the 4th of May. stating that he would give the full
price. with which aM the bands is hie employ appeared perfectly
eatislitd. The make prboper was at the meeting on Saturday night.
The palatines were Ware hag t.-appear at the Sessioas.
The hest ease was spinet the viscous. Dolmen and Bristow,
ales for destroying twaloonse week of kat skag,:helonging to Mr.
lackersime-The primmer* made the meal defeat*, that some Men
knocked at the Awe, aadvits it was opened they rushed in and
cut eke work.. •
The Secretary to the bat shag weavers produced a list of the
prism paid by the hat Stag manufacturers. lie said the hands
were perfectly 'misled with the prices; bethought she work was
our cur insouciant*,
Mr. fieseannten- What !, ensforar men brush Into a Men. and
one the nth, yet don't dolt lutentionally ?
SeetetarrasThey did not break is at all.. "
Mr. IlloneMetates-I believe you.
Ereememv.vllisy, did est, know the work beloved to Mr.
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, TM prisoners were balled to appear on Saturday nem,
Several looms' welts wore yesterday sealed, In coosegessee of
.the journeymei are prevented' from SaMbbig tbwn. It is
me* because the ..cars shall not regain possossiie of their
pommy. Santee( the weavers prefer seal* to gamins because,
le they think, It is nut a punishable offence.
The Duke of COmIIIIIILAWD visited his MAJESTY yes-
mail, MAID Palace In St. James's: .
The Duchess of CLaaanca, accompanied* by the
Duchess et Saxe %num. and the Prince and Princess of Wa-
rms, came to town yesterday morning to her new residence in the
King's Palace. St. James's. flan their residence in Busby Park.
The two Duchesses, after inspeetieg the whole of the .dike, visited,
the Primus Amine& at her residence in the King's Palace,
St. Jamie's. end afterwards proceeded to the apartments of the
Duchess of Kerr, is the King's Palace, at Kenslogtonorith whom
they partook of a In the afternoon. the Duchess of
Mauna. the Duchess. Pilate, and Princess of Sass Vane%
returned to Bushy Park.
The Marquis and Marchioness of Lommiumaai
pee a grand dinner at Moklernoss House, Patt-lana, yesterday
evening, to the Duke and Dashes Of. tis.pocassaa, the Duke of
Osman, the Duke de Coma:ars. and clap patty of the No-
May and Gamy. Is the evening the !Marchioness had a very
nunierms and splendid amenably. . .
A deputation of the manufactutari.of cotton goats
attended at the MD at the Band, et Trade, Whitehall, loners
day, and had a ambrence with she CIRADOW.I.OII of the &car
On= and the Panama, et the *Sam* et Team. A depatatim
a the manefasteseas of cotton emir minded at the same Me
ye and had ales an intomilowerithithe Csiascaucia 'of the
•• - • and die Penteente efifte Base Of Tress. 'The two
Illehtere afterwards preteedettle the Thum, and bad wee
Maim with tie No Wftinteei

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The dreadful sentence of *cab *at let into
don ibis 'turning upon Tharafe &b. iv,' 24
for burglary. 'lkon's's Mao, 2R, for henterreaking;inct
Williams terry Carr, aged 29, for a fergif um, 44
Bank of Menus. Cortss and Co. Thief* Mierabksaft
were convicted at the last Sessions. it'd os,Vadaftdal
1451, after an interval irons the bee of keivicties of
about a month, the Recorder made his rtprih and they
were ordered for execution. Since which ti,,e
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effoits have been made to save Hawkins; nthaT.
ing been berry tiansported, an cooly intiulaton
given that the lavievould take • its course; fie •sai;
answer was also applied to the case of Cart.
wretched men have been generally peni‘ent
signed, and prepared for the awful day with
becoming and penitential spit it. . ts•-ia
The crowd that assembled this 'morning atiouth
scaffold was comparatively small..searcelr SOO perafris
Wring a•sembled at any one time. The Unde.
Richard•on and Tolson. arrived at a quarter to eigh
o'clock, and Shaw was soon afittr pinioned. lie was a hakaths,*
immuring in gppearanee and was extremely grin. Ho ackgatt,
lodged the justice of his ordiente. and said he was thibkfpl kith
dons made to save his life. Hawkins was the next pinioned,' ss.
was dreadfully agitated, and extremely weak and he ptaraft;
fervently. His arms and hands being secured ho sot aearhis
fellow suffersr. Whilst the, officers were pinioning Care, wha.„*B
a tall genteel inoilng man, he closed his eyes, WA prier
them after.
The Church clock having chimed eight teem*, that.=
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procession moved towards the place of einicinioist ;Slim • •
the steps leading to the 'clad.' 4rnily, sod asbil.ef bath/
of the Valley of death, Oh Loin have airrcy,ms f 5 thaagaisi,
heard the exelamation, and said, " Omer grant, ren as t ! le.
Shaw bunked for a moment upon the crowd, aothMeitly tieutthi,
head. Hawkins was next placed by his aisle; be Vain bittfik
but remissions, asseverated. •• Oh Loan, hamming nn üb" Orr
sass so weak that he was supported up the steps, and on the at;
told, • by a minute or two more all Wee in restiliieii. agJ 'ha*"
111111 Hawkins struggled for a more,
secoodi, and thee al wii•thit.
Thirothere died almost lousnify. „
• Each of the prisoners wore a white rose in the lowNon•halesl
'big coat.

• . MURDICI .10ENCINGTON.
The Jury yesterday, at the aromas, Inquest, found a vessiiee,i
wilful murder gigabit frirmiaghitet. The toilowingsrae
dill evidence adtiobsd— • • r.,
Mr. Oldebester. Reynolds, sworn—ll anakie it SAM
with nay laths!, who is an attorney; about twensrannbembpie
resat Swift Mortdng I visited the spot where thshiesoikelswas
olmmitsed harlot a nit* With me I was movie= ii ang esh„‘,
when, about 45 yards inane where the deceased isaitfisaii, I aim}
ageism a koife ; that blade was embedded in the Mali gest aslant;
about eight yaids farther I found a purse.
The knife was prOdhced ; common dinner Mite. Nis
edge, black handle, valth wrapper 'fertile, maker's name ;
h i 4
od." The porn appeared to have hires originally
greets colours. .
lantabetb Price recalled—When the purse was shown ri
said it was not the proven/ of the deceased, our has! she my many
at Airline she weat.out.
Mr. Parkins. surgeon, who had given *widest* on the lines.
annatlon was recalled ; and, tea questlea fleas she Catrosier reaper.
lug the stains 00 the knife, be replied„ it was his 'pinks they ow
those of blood:
Mr. Parkins, to conthivatimpsslThe knife in its present state
turned as its Mgr. which crest have been .Jobe since g for, trim,*
depth sod &unman( the wound, it most have bean sharp ia
int Monne. .
Tbe Comma* here that they had better hams Goad&
serjesessofehe 15th Hamden M. when Denial Davidson was ailed.
Combas—Have you often had commies wits to Birmighala's

room ?
Witasse-T base. •
Calattiaa-.-Did you ever see a knife like thielli the bursae!.?
Wastes -I never did.
&MS Bennett swore-I have no settled piaci of abode. I pot
over the banish walls at Kensington This was about MI( mot
eleven o'clock. A Oradea saw me first. and a yew% soma, busk
the appearance of • 'roam. asked the cantina who I was kbe sysiii
to ow, the mead bowleg seen me previously, and I want ate de
mom la Mike the groom lived.. I love Mae naderstond that it at
Thomas dioniagbam'ai I did Mt deep the whole of the aleviit
ips.therefore certain that be sever left his room deragiliiiigir
At * o'clocklis the Wean' I left him $a his own mem. •
Carper-Did ans aver ate ibis Thomas before T.
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Wineses-1 sew saw blob-before that night. •
Visa toe sweria.-Last Friday, ea seeing Binning
&AZ' fhliki
him some cute., He said that he had mate a the alive flak it
that he should wish to have lOW porter.. HMO% of Au Wu& /
said it was aubeddsgthieg;ivhso the said k was, apd..l Motkiefl.
him not toirlat!sity answer to say liestiob width might be
him. Some tam after he had a pipe et tableau. and a ration alit
up and asked Idol .wkarhe waif there for, When I said. Di as
answer any question." (ha the Saturday morning be was *J..
ids in the yard, when I said I hard it was done with a peaks&
He said "-N6. it was not done with a ren.knife." Whether beard
noimay meld And or would And *hat it was done with Imolai
my. It was to that area. I said that I. was like kissed(' old!,
tundely rimed there as a serious charge. He thee said, " 1 seppaa
`What I say will go no farther." I replied that It would not. I
r mated that when the girl was felted, she had ban a crown is‘hte
bed. He said, " I saw the half crown, het, se help ire Ode; rem.
her a•• asaiey." Seale farther convenatim seek place blusit's
phi. He said, "No person can prove k is mince tar cad dif
imam swear that I was the man, as it was dark." .1, asked Ail,
went be thought ef it, when be saki, " I have not posed two ,
amiaggo nights since I wee! born." A convenatina Mee ►
low ahem gating out of the barracks. •He said; " I °hat
lowa She walls at all boors of the sight. Ilse Iliell*sk'S
iset maiden( the barracks, and I took her that pumarkimahmit
U. with me. and I kept her all night, that 'Peale', be sera Isle
,aat if the barracks in the morning. Milady ma prove that 'I di.
Re las not going to be sack a fool as to tall all I booms' 10
Seitaie esillset me through is if it pet him N 01." In the issratig*
It was propseed to club rimed for a newspaper. but thistlespriallif
iodised; k was afterwards dike; tar liter ciapel it was,preioli.
!la; be was lying deny* 'atthE time. A fellow prisoner casal
sag up stairs, and said, •' Here Here is your hese about the a
will read it to you." I wee at this titne'cleaning•out the seatallf
Me then got tip and sat by Are. At that moment one of the nal%
Iketimate er,when toad to him" that. man is changed; see
iliakirs." There was a great deal more conversation faised, eW
let is•impossible for in. to state.. Hs at one time said that be IA
the gIFI in at the gate, at another time over the wan: In the sii
pia be said he Might change his quarters ; bet they mold essidi
Alai for is person saw him do it. lie laid afterwards," I Wit
shall not be shown the body, for I should net like to seek." Ban
la left the prison, yesterday iteraing, he said that he hared std.
laded said to Ott that I would pet state tt Asewhore, or weeds
that dect, as it could be of no battik to me.
.Cioacisten-Nose, do yen mean to say that all this took pat/
Witness-Yes, I believe I have stated word for wed emu
shies which tank place. The antes whisk I teak et it wawa:lnn .
boors after she aiiversation task place.
llenieel Arundel, another primmer in the New Prima, Wks
She 'Matthaei of the Newspaper, and the prisoner's change of coma
amipme en the account being reed. •
The Jury faired; aad;after a mosidirabklaria of time, lts_,
timed the following verdiet.-That the doomed, Sanh mot
etas Mary Asia Brows, we murdered by Thomas Ifirrateghdis
"1 The investigation lasted upwards of seven boon.
The Dokeof CusseaLs MD was with the ChiefJestie
ef the Comma P&eaa iq.bia room yesterday morning Who'd
came into Court. His Loyal Highness remained with the Cod
Janice 'about twisty mamma

arrived in town on Subl.

The Duke at Gce.
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pipit, from" Worthing.
Prince LROPOLD left town yesterday for hli side g
Claremont.
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Ps ince PoklailAC, the Preach Ambassador,
vited to dine with his Meant. se entry to need 'l/1"111."
Omahas end Cmentasi. His had, however, kb
for Tunbridge Was, tar the benefit d hest&
Prince Lumen (the Russian Ambassador), and
French Charge- d'Affaires. -trantetted business with loo"
Amsaripe yesterday. at the Ma of the Secretary et
irerliga Affairs.
Prince LactvoLD entertained La seleci pasty tom
on Sunday amides ai
cootittlY were the Ruh. af the Dab and Disbis
Lelsmar. the Mmeliiiimel the and 111411.
Cis tiyaghant, the Maly& aid ihrebbleses of .0
and Collient,laillitAllort RS. °mines of
Cusaisis .Gower, Visseietess I=t /AL,' 1116
Mar iletbiisens,blr. Apr •Me dm: The. hem MS VW'
die SOW dining ream, which bats ;tied for the kW dem
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—• ..11+ilags. and shy wiSe bound to eat Osownenionsply.
'4.Asti :IR t. :lt yc:op contends 4 that .114r..aCososell's cane doubt.
10.0 ltv•-:„.44.0 ajle an etteptiorry ought 'to* pots a defect.
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Tr; =4 -I..t.42lliSric tau was returned to Parliament previous to
,the passing of the lareAct far the relief. Ibis Majesty's
Roman Catholic subjects ;land if thecasehadbeen that
.0f Lord. Surrey, the Honourable Member. foe.Horsham,
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