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an opportunity by their best exertions to promote the
interests and welfare of the country—(Hear, hear).
Mr: BROUGHAM said that be should have taken no part us
this debate, but for some expressions in the speech of the Noble
Lord, the whole of which was eslculated to give new. life to the
agitations in the country, and seemed to have for its object to
place the Royal Parties in this painful discussion in intermina-
ble opposition. For the sake of casting new stigmas upon her
Majesty, and fixing upon her the charges Ministers had aban-
doned in their evidence, he had not only infringed all bounds of
decorum, but all forms of debate; and with the artful sedulous-
ness of the pruner of a paragraph for a party Newspaper, had
entered into a laboured analysis of the votes in the Lords, to
whose proceedings in ordinary cases a bare reference only was
allowed—(lfear, hear). If the House would allow him, lie could
shew in what way the majority against the Queen had been com-
posed : he could shew how many of that majority owed their
places, their patronage, their honours, and their revenues to the
patrons of the Bill : he could prove that while the minority could
not in the slightest degree be influenced by the party who was to
be the victim, the Illustrious Personage who was the unavowed
prosecutor was represented by his Household, and State 03-
errs, and Dependents of all Ranks, and his power extended as
well over those who waited fur the highest rewards a Monarch
could bestow, as those who accepted even the lowest boona they
could confer upon their adherents. Was not this of itself an
array that might strike terror into the most innocent? Was not
this an influence greater than had ever before been employed
upon any individuals presuming to call themselves Judges?—
(Loud and long-swain fled cheers).
The SPEA KEIL here interposed, and a short conversation
took place between him, Mr. BROUGHAM, and Lord Calvet-
exacts, on the extent to which the latter had referred to the
pioceedings of the House of Lords, and to which Mr. Broug-
ham might be permitted to advert to them. Lord CASTLEREAGH
insisted that he had drawn his statements from the printed. Jour-
nals of the Peers, and that Ministers had never made the Bill of
Pains and Penalties a party question:
Mr. BROUGHA M continued,— If true, this could not ap-
pear upon the Lords' Journals, but it was well known to be di-
rectly contrary to the fact. Ott no question in the History of
Parliament had more party spirit been shewn ; and while Mi-
nisters, under pretence of impartiality, and with the cunning
that belonged to Weakness, kept in the back ground, quietly, but
industriously to:rapping securing votes, they left three cr
four of his (Mr. Broughani's) Noble Friends to bear the brunt
and odium ot the dehlte. L, the outset of his speech, the Noble
Lord, with a charity peculiarly his.own, undertook to defend the
Queen front the Noble told who tr.:reduced his motion, and
the rest of her Erienl:. Ile had maintained th-t her alajesty
was degraded before her tai tl—degraded by the confession of
her Advocates. The House would know how to make allow-
ance for the delicacies and difficulties with which he (Mr.
Brougham), in the instance referred to, had had to contend ; he
was at that time as powerless to resent as to resist imputation ;
and the Noble Lord, with an ingenuity in which few would be
proud to be his rival, well knew how to heap together a few ad-
jectives and sounding epithets, and thus to compound a sentence
difficult of comprehension, hut as far as it was intelligible, calcu-
lated to fill the ear and to delude.the mind. It was not for him
(Mr. Brougham) then to say that his Royal Mistress was de-
graded : she was on the brink of an investigation where inno-
cence was no security, where perjury and bribery were united
to accomplish one object, where the long arm of power, and
the long purse of Ministers joined their influence over Italian
hands and hearts, ready to crouch under the one, and greedily to
snatch at the other—(Yar). From such a trial—from such a
threatened persecution—the most guiltless might shrink, without
for a moment incurring the imputation of crime. Iler Ma-
jesty had previously made her ill-fated voyage : con•rary to his
and Mr. Whitbread's earnest representations, she had left this
country, and for six years was all but forgotten. Now nothing,
nothing was talked df on the other side, butt her increasing and
inconvenient popularity. Why was she popular? And why
were the hearts of all classes interested in her behalf? Because
she was oppressed and persecuted : and if Ministers wished to
sink ber into comparative oblivion, they had nothing to do but
to abstain from that persecution—(Cheers). The people had
witnessed a woman and a queen maltreated; insulted, trampled
upon : they had seen injuries inflicted where injuries were pos-
sible; and insults where injuries were powerless. They felt for
her, because they loved the Monarchy and the persons of their
Rulers with what an historian has called, with somewhat of a
sneer " a childish admiration of Royalty." For this the peo-
ple of England had covered their Queen with the shield of their
protecticr, and had covered themselves—(Loud cheers)—he
would boldly say it—with immortal renown, as lovers of Jus-
tice and detesters of tyranny (Hear, hear, hear). After
adeertirg to the notice Lord Castlereagh bad taken of him-
self, Mr. Brougham proceeded to observe upon the reluc-
tance with which Ministers, not long since, had been compelled
to pronounce the name of Queen. In this respect he had lived
to see strange changes. He had heard not only the Right Hon.
Gentleman opposite (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) pro-
nounce the title as glibly and as frequently as sums of money
to be voted nut of the pockets of the people, but even the No-
ble Lord had been prevailed upon to treat her Majesty with the
respect which became " an old courtier of the Queen's, and the
Queen's old courtier"—(llear).—What was still more astonish-
ing was, that in another place, where her Majesty had so re-
cently been upon her trial, he had heard even the Sovereign
himself pronounce the name of Queen—(Hair).—The Hon. and
Learned Gentleman concluded a most eloquent and powerful
speech, by calling on the House to restore the Queen to all her
rights, as they valued justice and the safety of the Country; for
if she was not treated now as if she had never been tried, there
was no justice, no security in the land. That question the flue-.:n
could nee, r give up, and the Public ',multi never I bee it up.
After sonic remarks from Mr. Alderman Ilevears, who
supported Ministers, Lord A. Hammes replied.
The House then divided—For the Amendnieut —3lO

Against it •[O9
Majority againu the original Motion-101
Adjourned at 81 QUARTZ& arrows !RV= this morning.
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