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nom mos GAZETTK DK PRA NCR. JULY 7•

• • ' ALEXANDRIA, MAY 19.
An "English brig or wa:, from Coati, which has run
'.l grotto., lathe Suet titer in the world, at the tower
of the Arabs, and which is to be sold, has brought tl:e
• . 11.
iletes.ol the military blockade of our port. The Viceroy
'has w •t• yt t received any nificial news on this subject.
NVe ate not acquainted with any of the details, or with
Ore extent which will be give.' to this blockade. The
word Military authorises a belief th It commerce will not
be disturbed, unless subsequent causes should give tisr
to 'note rigorous measuies. It mg be apprehended,
all ivents, that the exportation of corn wiU he com-.
isreitended in tlle prohibitions.
moment three English men of war have come
in sight of tie port. Among them is the Glasgow fti-
gate, to the Captain of which the (*patches brought
from Corfu ire addrevied.
.To..arioriow we shall kn..w
A what. we re to thutiCot.tl4 Idockite..
• PO 14, .10t0.04_, •• ,
Irks alp sow‘l etat Lhid thi iteelkis.
tish.‘
Arnbairsad,4 lathe Ctiort either
on the.loth tit Istb July. Lord (ir.otwillo will coneoge
to re,iai at Plf is. The-Amite Disvg4aiiri, brotheoa
in-law, whois at this moment to. ttie capital, is sose.
tionbly iodicpowd that his physiciant have orilestiitiiii
to be cupped. f
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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF CORDS. JULY 8.

JUOOMIENT-MAIRRIS V. 541011115.
This wassan appeal from the Court of Session in Scotland, and
related to the right of a public foot-path along the *banks of the
Iliver'Clyde, for a distance of forty miles. The question bad been
in dispute ever since tfie• year 1727, and has been several times
tried ; trethe last instance the Court of Sessions decided in fa*
vJur of the public, against which decision the present appeal was
brought.. Their Lordships this morning confirmed the judgment
of the Court below, which establishes the right of the public to a
foot-path by the side of the river.
Caartia; &nisi the. Treasury, presented an account of the
Income and Expenditure of the United Kingdom, from the sth of
January. 1815, tn. the isth of January, 1828, which, on the modes
of the Earl of Mauteseuar, was ordered to be printed.

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SIMMAGL, FROM TEM COMMONS,
Sir'A. GLINT, and other Siembeii, brought up the Constabulary
Force Acts Amendment Bill, and the Charing-crOu Improvement
Bill, and announced the concurrence of the Cosnmons.in the Lords'
Amendments in the Corn Importation Bill.
The Registry Office (Ireland) Bill, and the Odes and Boroughs
El•crien Poll Bill, were severally reatfa third time and passed.
The Constabulary. Force Acts Amendment Bill and the Char-
ing-cross Improvement Bill, were severally read a first time.

Earl PER BIBS presented a Petition from an individual, pray-
ing for the inserfion in the New South:Wars IMP of a chose to •
establish Trial by Jury in that Settlement.
The garl of SH A E TESBURY pretented two Petitions front
Growers of Kelp in the Duchy of Cornwall, praying for protection.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN presented a Petition from the
Inhabitants of Caine, in the county of Wiltshire, for the Abolition
of Negro Slavery. The Noble Marquis had also a Petition to
present from a Reverend Gentleman of the tame of Stainabury,
Rector of the Parish of St. Lindford, in Sussex, complaining that
be bad been imprisoned for the nonqsaymont of poor rates upon
his tithes, which he contended he had no right to pay.
After a few words from the Earl of Matatanasur and the Earl
of Sere ritinntair against the reception of the Petition, on the ground
that the Petitioner, if he were•itqured, hid legal meantrotredreas,
The Matquis of LANSDOWN impressed his sonourreoce in
the opinion of the two 'Noble Earle, and begged to withdraw the
Petition: •

Earl GROSVESQR presented a Petition from the Glove Ma.
matacrurars of Yeord, in Somersetsbire, prayint for further pro.
tectiun.

raostissoav NOr (taw.isoo) mt.
On the Report of this Bill being brought up, . •
The Duke of WELLINGTON moved an amendreent,to.eoin-
pel all persons issuing Promissory Notes in Ireland to mate them
payable at the basking house from Whetice they were issued.--,
Agreed to. 4 •
The Report it's's then received, and the Bill ordered to be read.
I third time on 'fueiday. the l.sth instant.—Adjouttled. ,

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
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Mr. A. DAWSON presented a Petition complaining of Party
:Processions In Londonderry and other places.
Sir G. 111 LL denied some allegations in the Petkloo. istiputibg
to the Magistrates of Londonderry that they had encouraged such
processions within the last four years.—Laid on the table..
• • Mr. A. DA WSON presented a Petition from certain dealers hi
:Amex in Ireland, against any considerable alteration of the regst.:
latiels for the Butter Trade.—Laid on the table. .
• E,m4.AS li LEY presented a Petition from Woodstock, praying
iliiiti;clfrin to the Glove Trade.— Laid on the table.
• Cblonel CHICHESTER presented a Petition from Wexford,
Joining of Abuses under the Constabulary Act.—Laid on the
table.
Sir G. HILL! Presented iv Petition from certain inhabitants of
*Landonsies ry;. praying a reduction of the duty on Coals..
Sir O." lima; Dawsou, General GA SCOTNR, and Mr.
GRATTAN, AUppOrtill 'Oat' Nioo, which was ordered to be printed.
Mr. FERGUSON presented a Petition frown Aberdeenshire,
prayin; for some nirdption of the selrerity of the Excise Laws. •
Mr. F. PA L MEtt.'suppotted-the prayer of the Petition.—Or-
dered to be printed.
Mr. SLANE Y moved.,for Returns of the number of Paupers
in each Parish. in England, distinguishing the able.bodied from
those unable to wprk.

Also for Itetiiing relative to the Malt Trade.—Ordered.
Mr. CURTIZIS presentrd a Petition irom Goldspur in Sussex.
against the abolition of Small Noto.—Laid on the table.

'ir J. SCA RLETT presented a Petition from the Attornies
and Solicitors praCtising in the Superior Courts of Westminster,
complaining of the construction of those Courts. The lion. and
Lrarifeci Member stated it as his opinion, that a more incommo-
dious and in•taficient place for their acoinumodation' could not dis-
grace the Law Courts of any Metropolis. He did not mean to
impute blame to the architect, who stated that his plans had been
interfered with by that House, and that be was therefore not re-
spousible. However this may be, the Court with which he was
connected afforded the Worst possible accommodation to aU parties,
and was a disgrace to the country.
The SOLICITOR GILNERAL fully concurred in what bad
fallen from his Hon. and Learned Friend.

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Ordered I o be primed.
sir. lit, SMITH presented a Petition from Newport, in the
Isle of .Wight;-against the Additional Churches 'BilL—Lsid on
the table.

Abe a Petition from Her!estop, praying the abolition of Slavery
In the Colonies:—Ordered to DO piloted.
Mr. FltLgit presented i Petition from the Committee repre-
senting all the-lope:afire Weavers engaged in theiSilk Trade at
Coventry, pricing for protection against Foreign Manufactures.
Whatever might be said by those who maintained the doctrines of
free trade, be tithed them to deny this simple fact stated in the
Petition, that the measures of free trade alreasly.adupted had been
attended with the effect of increasing labour and diminishing
wages. lie .contended that they had brought upon the labourer
of this country a certain ruin, which wail 'only tor the present.
wattl.d oft' by the desperate tuitions of .skill and industry. He
trusted that the measures would be considered by the Government
during tie recess.—Ordered to be printed. •
SisitetaryPls..Er'prettnted Copies' of the Correspondence
of the C. nsmis,ioners at Sierra Leone and 'Ulu Janeiro, relating to
the Slave Trade —Ordered to'be printed. • •
Sir G. 11.0101'8014 ii4tisniea a Petition from Wellingborough, ;
for hp Abolition o licgro Shivery; also a' similar Petition flunt
Cayley, ut Noir.liddri.—The Pel'itiniti: were ordered to be printed.
Mr. VIM) GII presented a similJr Petition front Y4OOO
inhAitifdrs tstEeiiiifitirlihl ilia a vis Alar Nauru from 4,000 ins*
bitams of liiiii4.44Orderrtai De piintril. '
Mr:l. ' Presented a similar Petition from Trvrker.
bury..,-Orrirrea to be piloted. ' • • ;
• Orditikikial(4lle-Lionis atmoupeed.lbat their .Lordihips
'agited tot*aisleeeittgAiendugisa.polptiill, andasonle Wier!.
Alr. li. rALJI EkirirlaVek4 atiteritiun
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Laws, but as it was not read, the pray-r could be ascertained.
Atter a few woitl4 from Mr. F. PALVER and ..r. Caa.vree,
'the Petition was laid on the table.

Mr. J. WOOD presented a Petition from certain Unitarians of
Sobthoureet Chapel, Finsbury, against the Additional 'Churches
13+11,—t,Laid on the table.
Mr. Alderman IV A !Till] A N presented a Petition from certain
:11anufaeturers of Kid Liluves in the City of London, paying pm-
tection against the importation of Frencb Glotes —Ordered to be
printed. _

Mr. IIUNDY presented a Petition from Castle Donington,
praying the abolition of Slavery.—Lid to the table.
Mr. It. GO It DON presented a Report (rain tNi Select Com=
mittee on Smithfield Market.—Ordered to be primed.'
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Mr. F. nIIXTON presenttd a Petition from the Plergy; of the
Archdeacoory of Ely, praying for the amelioration of die condition
ut Slaves in the West Indies.—Ordered to he printed. - '
Also similar Petitions from Stroud. Sheffield, Cheltenhatfi; Di-
bridge, Gillingham, Thornbury, Graveaepd,, Wednesbury, Peck.
ha ni Ifarnford Rein, Chatham, and two other places ,-.Laid on
the table. • -. .
:11r. 014 RILL presented R Petition from certain Growers and.
Manufacturers of Kelp, complaining of dttress. The Hem. Member
gave;notiee of* minion urn the sihjeee on the 13th of this month.
Mr. li k:lt NA I. presented a Petition fri All Rochester, ittfavotir
of the Abolished 6f6lavery..-.Leid on tlie table.
turd .I.'ItUSSILL L gave lattice that sin Thursday se:nnightithe
lath ot.seis atom*, he ieldeteldnisove an 'Address to the Crown.on
the State sif• Inlaid. .
Mr. HIRING presented a Pet fiontsthe Silk 'Weavers of
r
Taunton, praying for protection.
,on the table.
MEI r. UMII presented a Phition rum Montrose, praying for
,on
the Abolition of Slavery.-.-Laid en the table. 4" '
Also a Petition irons the Owners of Qrryiag Smacks eniplwyed
in the Carrying Trade between the . Ports of hoodoo end Leeds.
complaioln of the Bell,, reggiring them to pay for licenses for the
Sate of Spirits.—Laid on the table.
MI. HUME rose to present a Petition front the Rev.
Robert Taylor, confined in Oakham Gaol, on 'a iectence
upon a prosecution of.blasphe,tiy. The Petitioner Was
prosecuted at the inAance of a Dissenter—an'A lder man
Browne—who was then Lord Mayor of L ndon. The
Petitioner maintained Mai it was disgraceful io the age,
and contrary to justice, to prosecute any map usrely
because be differed on speculative rin.s- of- rel4ien
from the mass of the' community. ,He had boemsen-
tenced, at the encl'of his imprisonment of (.11e. yerne4to
be bound, himself in SOO/. and two.surtties of 2.solMieh,
which he thought excessive bail. He thoughtit wfrong
on the part of Mr. Anthony Browne, who was biassed
a Dissenter, to institute such a piosecarions. . . .
The Petition was brought up and read.
On the question that the Petition do lie os the table,
Mr. W. SMITH was surprised that such a 'proteen-
tion should have been instituted by Aldjtinan BroWre,
who was himself a Dissenter ; but perhaps, he left that,
as a Magistrate, it wasliis duty to doso. ..
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Mr. LESLIE FOS rkat- thought Ithe Lett( 144y0r
had acted rightly in tucsecuting a person wise gloried
in being not only a Deist, but en *Pei; t.• and ;rho pt/ls-
'lished his opinions in violation Of.
.the law•of Oelaid.
Mr. Alderman WOOD sate, that the PrOsecutiolOiiil
bees instituted by the then Lord Mayor, and to t by tkte
Court of Aldermen. He believed it had been instituted
by that Gentleman, because there appeared no diipseis
tion in the Secretary for the 116grIC Department to
the subject forward. He thought it would be better to
let such prosecutions alone, as by doing so the doctrines
and opinions of -that person- would be prevoineditOm
getting into circulation.. .
. Mr. Secretary PEEL observed, that obi Freermay.. le '
Alderman had correctly stood that there was mi...inch
to interese on the part of Government, not because the
impropriety of that pessoses conduit was not let,' but
beCause prosecutions on sue h stlfs*ts involved 4 life!!
difficult and delicate question. • 'Mit. person had, heir-
ever, been guilty of a shameful oiOle.r.i•;n of the.,l*.
and the then Mayor felt it his 'drily. us *proceeit,agiiost
him. '.He repeated that he thought pi oieeStiimkstr. 44
to be seriously considered before they were insti.t4ted.
After a few words (trim Mr. Hunsolle. Petition was ordit&iss
lie on, the table. .••
ADDITIONAL CIMACHES BILL ' •..
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The CHANCELLOR•of the EXCHEQUER, m sued
that the Order or the Darfur the 11.-suse'iesalring it- .'
-self into Committee• ow the AdditionalsChs4hes ilia
he'readifoitlie purpose of posrponint iv tilt' thiitudAy
'three months. ..In adopting 'th is. couise, Att./tight ,ki; -
nhurable Gentleman • eipt eased hitsielf IA; Wear 'far
from disposed res. admit ifiat'the iheitiusiiitturr
improper or in.-xpedient.4 Ott-,a 'tetvit %et itsidiOlte,.
opposition to.the BO had' bred etirfsedVat irl4hottgitts .
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rather too far; and . Seeing the 'rtattie 'Of ifiksikj gelsOffa
then made to it, he did 'orse'thiplt-R-. tikhcsitt: ihoteitste
period of the Session trisccupy Ll* petit' asakettentlon : '
of the House by prev.ilig it frihvardi'icitbetsatt4slOti of
other important business. Ordered, read, Anti gostpaned.t.
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At the suggestion of Mt: &111,the, wherstated hia!o-
Moo .that it waft impr,ssibletd Ragworts, lbseastsetWisf
any question' relating to Ireland at the peeeenttotteliiit
with a chance calm cro4ideration, ' •,-..._••'!.*# '
Mr. WILMOf-HOBTON consented •to withdiipw
his motion which stood for this evening, 11.Trv.esietets
a Select Committee all Acts of Parliament pastedsinee
the Union with Ireland, which relate to the United
Church of England and Ireland, or to the.doetrine,
discipline, regulations, rights, and provilege'v thereof ;
and also, all Acts of Parliament pas Ted-since that pe-
riod, which io any manner relate to Roman Carktoks
or Protestant Dissenters." But in doing so the Bight
Honourable Member Impressed his detereasination • to
bring the subject forward,early in the ensuing Session
of Parliament.

NEW SOUTH W4&ES.
Mr. STUART moved that a b ruble Address be
presented to has Majesty, for Cop sof all the ItlOcu-
t
ments relating to the case of Joseph
iilds and Petrick
Thompson, privates of the 57th regditent, who bad
been sentenced to seven years' transpotation for theft
in New South Wales. He contended thiketbe Military
and'moral character of General Darling
,wete' aripty
involved in the question, and that the friends' of that
officer, as well as the ft lends of justice, must feel aniious
for the production of such documents as would lejd to
a full and just knowledge of all the circunistancei of
the case. One of the :uffereis had died tour dui after
the commencement of has punishment. The Honcu• able
Member referred to the Australian newspaper, in
to show the necessity of some inquiry being instituted
into the case.

Sir G. MURRAY- did n“ rise for the.purposeof of.
feting any opposition to 'the moriCn. A -resyettsble
officer had been- charged with cruelty and oppre sion.
and therefore the test _course he cculd take, lootti•with
yerereneeitO ttiii officer-where fairs 'fame was *sorbed,
•arki tri.the respect true to that 'House, would he to fur-
Irish tOpiel of 'terry • deciurrent which bad. any .bea?ing
iireirthe'subjeet.. The'sßight lionetirat k GeOttnan
11.641140 fltatie the Cer.verncit sins'pinced in circtinfitances
'nf'mtitri4itreriloy.; eight-instances pritate,soldiers
in thit 'slhl 7itegtnieditAnd Mutilated their f)ers9ni for

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thhe of being discharged from his Majesty's str-
oke. The Governor, however, commanded, and he
conceived very properly, that the men who had so mis-
conducted themselves should serve as scavengers ; and
the individuals to whom the motion of the Honourable
Member had reference, finding that mutilation would
not procure them their discharge, they committed a
theft in the middle of the day. The House would readily
see that when so immoral a feeling began in a regiment
it would spread like a contagion, if strong measures
were not taken to put a stop to it. The Right Hon.
secretary then entered into a detail of the case, and
expressed his firm conviction that the Hon. Member
who had brought the subject forward would. on further
inquiry, feel with himself that the conduct of General
Darling was not reprehensible. The Right Honourable
Secretary then referred to the Australian newspapers,
and showed that the death of one of the convicts was
not the consequence of his punishment. He spoke in
high terms of the general character of the .57th regiment.
Sir C. COLE bore testimony to the high character of General
Darling. He bad known that Officer for thirty years, and so high
was his opinion of him, that he was gratified by the readiness with
which the Right Hon. Secretary for the Colonies had acceded to

the motion.
After a few remarks from Mr. Hums, Mr. M. Firma'Atm, and
Mr. STUART. the motion was agreed to.
Mr. BROW N LOW übtaiued'kave to bring in a Bill respecting
the General Drainage of Ireland.
Mr. SU G DEN obtained leave to ►ring in a Bill to Amend the
Law respecting Illusory Appointments.

ALLOWANCES AND PENSIONS BILL.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER,
the House resolved itself Into a Committee of the whole House,
upon the Superannuation Allowances and Retirement Pensions Bill.
ThesCHANCEL of the EXCHEQUER then
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rose in discharge of h ty, to submit a motion to the
Committee. He shim d certatuly have felt much more
gratification hid be not been called upon to make that
niotiotiurititthe report of the Finance Committee should
have been laid on the table ot the •Hcuse. But the
measure he was ut to propose had been recom-
mended unanimously'by the Finance Committee : which
consideration, added to the late perioclof the Session,
and the very spare attendance of Honourable Members,
left him no alternative. He should be very brief in
the obsesvations with which it was his intentoo t i
• preface his ,motion for leave to bring , in the Bill, as,
should his motionTbe agteed to, it was 'his intention to
put the House into full possession of the provisions of his
proposed Bill on the second reading, when it might un-
dergo a thorough discussion. The proposed Bill related
solely to civil superannuation;, and to the retiring pen-
sions of cur Foreign Nlinisteis. In the course of the in-
qohy id which the ;Finance Committee had been en-,
gaged; that Committee could not fail to be struck with
the enormous charge on the.couotry for ineffective ser-
vices. The whole sum requited for the maintenance'
of all the elfective and actual branches of the public
Arlie; was about 21,000,00 W. while the rensuneraiils
of pa4t dervices imposed on the country a charge
ameblatieg to nearly 5.500,00 Pi. or more than one
four Of that required for existing arid effective ser-'
irieosiositHear, hear). That circumstance was, however.
this accessary consequence of the long war in which se
had been engaged, acid the splendid services which bad
been rendered to the country—indeed, it might be
viewed as a grand and striking record of our glory—
at the same time, he must say, and he was sure the
Committee would concur with him, that in the present
. -situation of the country, it was most desirable that its
burdens should as much as possible be reduced—
(Hear, hear).. The gross amount of those charges he
had already stated ; the civil superannuations comprised
its it amounted to nearly 500,0001. per annum. It ap-
peared from returns enacted to the Report, that in the
year 1822, the civil superannuatious amounted to
340,0001.—they were now little short of 500,0001.—50
that in six years there had been an increase of nearly
one half—and, although it was, only justice to observe,
that a great portion of that increase had been conse-
quent upon the reduction of officers for whom it had
beta of course necessary to make some provisioo, still
the subject of superarinuations was one of great im-
portance, and one requiriag.the serious consideration of
Parliament—(Hear). It would be in the recollection of
the Committee, that in the year 1821, that subject had
attracted the attention of Parliament. At that period
;there was laid before the House the result of an inquiry,
upon which was founded a regulated general scale oi,
salakies. It was about that same pet iwd,1822, determined,
;that from the remuneration paid to individuals for their
services, there should be made an annual deduction or
edetethinion, ter the purpose ot homing a fund out of
which to pay be superannuations, and an Act to au-
-tootle and enforce soch deductions was passed. In two
years afterwards, howevet, in consideration of the im-
proved circumstances of the country, and of the nume-
rous applications to Parliament from various quarters,
eolaining of the severity of the measure, Parliamen:
resolved to repeal the Act of 1822, and it was accord-
ingly repealed; and the de. uctions-which had under its
provisions been made had been ever since discontinued.
Plaviagithese facts before them, the Finance Commit-
tee thought that one of two things ought to be done—
namely, either to limit the amounts if the salaries to an
equivalent for Vie set vices performed, or by adopting
• the principle of the Act of 1822, to compel the party
receiving a salary to provide for his superannuation.
'the latter was deemed the most advisable, and it would
be found embodied in his proposed Bill. It would be
more beneficial to the individual himself, as it insured
to him protection agaia,t the consequences of his own
heedlessness or extravagance—(Hear): On that part
of the subject he begged leave to state, that it was not
iatended that the superannuation; should be in propor-
tion to the salary of the party at the time of his super-
annuation, unless he should have held the office to
which it was attached for a certain number of years.
Such was the proposed arrangement as respected those
who already held office. -With reference to those who
were hereafter to be employee, the Finance Committee
recommended that every pet ton who should in future
be appointed, should, on his entering upon office, be
bound-to submit to certain deductions from his salary,
for the purpose of providing a superannuation fond.—
That was net a novel system, for he knew that in the
island of Ceylon it had been put into operation, and had
been totind to work well for a great length of time. So
much, therefore, as respected superannuations. The
other part of the Bill wield relate to the rot ring pen-
sions of our Foreign Al misters. tinder the Act ot 1810,
it was provided that narissolivolual should be entitled to
a passion until he had served ten years; but that Act
also gated that it should apply favourably where ten
• years had elapsed front the date i l the commission, pro-
vided that the individual should have been for three
Teen engaged in active service. it appeared that under
t-ist Act the pensions to Foreign Meows bad grown
to the great amount of 60,0001. Under these cities-
teepees it had been deemed advisable to make as Dew
noreogernent, and, in the gist place, the Finance Coe-
melee tecommeaded (avid the Bill would-en:braes that
v.:commendation) that these pensions should be afiowed
to drop to 440001. a yeas. a*d that at so future peeled
should they esceed that amount; and farther, that
no Foreign Minilt,er should bs • entitled to his fs.

tiring pension un,til he Lad WWI. fifteen years ;
also, that no Ambassador shoeld be called to receive'
(OW a year, unless he should have served as an Am-
bassador for two years. Such were, the provisions of
the Bill he should, with the leave of the House, have
the honour to introduce; and in moving for it he was
fully aware of the extent of the objections raised against
it. He had known in the course of a pretty lung
official life the value of the services of the individuals
who would be affected by the first part of the Bill, and
however much he felt compelled to propose the mea-
sure by the Report cf the Finance Committee, be could
not do so wkhout regretting the necessity which had
called upon him to prirform that duty. The Right Hon.
G:ntlerian concluded by moving, that the Chairman be
directed to apply for leave to bring in a Bill to amend
the Acts relating to Superannuations, Pensions, and
Allowances.

Mr. HUME concurred in the report as open to fewer
obj, ctions than any other, thou-gli 'fie wished the Biil
went farther than the gradual plan of reduction pro-
posed. The orieinal Surrannuttion Act aught not to
have been repealed. The restriction relative to the time
of service by Foreign Ministers was most necessary and
judici'.us. He quite agreed in the proposed measu.e.
It would be desirable to introduce some alteration into

the system of promotion in the army and navy. The
cont:uct cf the officer at the head of the artillery was
most laudable, in bringing so many officers from halt
pay to full pay, and thereby reducing the dead weight.
There should be some limit fixed by Parliament nn the
amount of the fund applied to half pay. The cumber
of half pay officers of the navy was this year wetter
than last year. The Government ought to be more
cautious in granting half pay in the army and navy to
persons who never served, or intended to serve. The
amount of the pensions and dead weight sia. no less
than six millions. The Government should find some
remedy for this in the recess.
Sir H. HARDINGE contended that the present
Commander of the army had given his attention to the
reduction of the half pay and dead 'Night of the army.
Twelve hundred officers cf the half pay list of the army
had been absorbed since 1820, and the dead weight of

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that branch of the army had been reduced in proportion.
There was no parallel between the situation of desks in
the Governnient offices, and those in mercantile offices,
as the latter, though receiving a low salary at first, were
sure to obtain a wealthy independence, while the cle•ks
is the Government offices were obliged to wait a regular
routine for an increase of their salary. In the Oi dnance
office a clerk was not entitled to 1201. before 12 years,
nor to 3001. before 24 years.
Mr. MONCIC could not admit that the observation
of the Right Hon. Gentleman (Sir It Hardinge) applied
generally. It might be just with respect to clerks in
some commercial houses, but nut to those in the Bank,
and other similar establishments. _ _ _

Mr. HUME complained that the, salaries in the va-
rious public departments were very 'unequal, and he
regretted that they had been so long allowed to con-
tinue so.