Star.
London, England, 1804-06-16 00:00:00

P4RLIANENTARr PROCEEDINGS.

SIOUSI Of LORDS. FRIDAY. lUNIL
Cooed were feeler hoed In tie Appeal. Letene Crawford,
cesidnotioa of "Ai& was easted 1:6 be warned ea Thud-
6171'bilaextfartber bearing of erbium is the ieuebe kn.
M the modal of Lced Wahlogbant. MO(
wbkl k Rood warden to tbe orderi=grylo nadir wit.
Alenetbie et IPrieate 18ii west Weight op fruit the Comma.

ATIAIIIIVIT SILECTIOII SILL.
'hoarder behegvilettivreteedifyor remake the debate as the fumed
kWh' of the A Deakin Beg.
Lord OREII ILLS mearadated the ergammes be bad
thentedy mged In he feypen. Though be had ban merfe to the
=.4 mteareek he wee rat SOW feety that roads hod beet
Imerefe ebe rdbit wee Wad* warp refrad to flitrat
the ellegedensteaSrembia, d the 'deem* at awedoss wad
fyilamde Merupden in Ms Dem. ef Apiary.
The LORD C CELLOR admitted. eke the edam* jut
Rad the ilketion of the kid Speaker, bat he AM twitted the re-
insity pipeful by the MR as yakkl.u•lt, and emeenttkattood .
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The ale oluelo Sorstso dihmetime.Ju though ebleedembk It
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elle 1 eistrpie yearn went didnuktifed by mum
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lie lurk of dap oda Is Mk Mil the hutment and
Ile golly to the fame paatheneet. If the Oust-
pia of the IS was be eatertaked hy IPerlianient, It !bode be
She kW& 'fa soda* m ivory Borough, with
telpeol to idieb. a Ceemehten of the Hide al Commans &odd
Apra the eallteda of tußery wad earkeydra. 5k segued In or
=ea whet hid feeweedlimen urged by thelqpertwo of eke
ist Oa death Madge wee.by kw, eallidend es a plate
*IR wed aellesh, it had hem e~dsd vibe% eyes the Wm
Id* Uhl% a pannier, autpealeas grab selkib as ems
Irletilled In dee ilerovre disheashiliewerd co that menlea.
*she* s of the nabob
reMlCllrefaiesi,elwe dale wko madved a pemedsey
mingerheles at the time of the Wen, was we the murk but
she guelikenre of the Dareregbe. The FAN nemilere was At
hamd ride land which had at - within iM so yews
The els& had ban highly Wedded ki the Walsh cafe i and he
hod ae desk it would be I. in the erehati_apem Me ash dile
eapednesee. hie lard.* Mined he knew ie adventeges 0 re.
Ism 411 slam Dam' Seek. &Wu km.4= been brim
as de enwnime a ratans es hid 14 hem Spew
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=ilre Rey wren-,iambi damp him anima as,ta
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MK who sees paseley seemised le Mk* by 68 bidden
Maim Cesmillse ter oesastadarres Mes immened. wed
tie pub _era whes ir am slim helm tie Camdiseet
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elkeiaidled hindelf. is hee the beams hr Midi he
lies esmated es MA** Thathets tea, wadi has the
se resell& that tie litillsin Chmetes had hem
Wei MIN hr itrusimbst tioredsg thmea ar•
ettemiwe to tba eseastued far their esidastotiss;
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HI somomiewee et tem whaelles sod the sikeedatt el
%kW Mien s there would be Ms se dem grimes fres Ah
rah artuahrk it, Mee ommlied hi Med, isr tide owa-
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a liept ream le *air tams sod so le.
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Co II AM adkoodue
ylt was hd able sledge bow tor they
ay dioreslesit
- hIsIrAXOTPART agreed to "Ohm the Petition far the
yaks
• Mr jom4 SHICLAIR himeht up the &pert or the Cam&
Ise so the emphases grids of Sees& sad Ugh& isetels,
Nana wish a dew se sedgy ass Ponds Matt Tait.—Ordered to
.111 es the Tells
ppo WM. proheted. free dee Oise of the toredo? or
Sameessed Mpassos Amore et the tames sod lsepaeta if
Weft Isis Proem within the hit ttne yam Ordered to be
pee&
WPC. wheel his MI to molt the fats d mule Eat
blhasepeareva hatraspe the Ise dm
Ids Alamo OMNI MIMI hrpumitire to bear Canard
whet tbe IMIL
hb. 111111AUlt lehreerd the Hes bomber, that Node
Mitt ha Mod is wig Nora paps of the 11111.—onboot to be
• based thee ea Ileados
Mir. 111111101111 SOURNI moved ibr lerot to brbse to_ a BO
is eel* Marian awaken, Lk to export mosehinery smeary
Ain wadi, • Mat Is is Dom Mess of the Leg of Mosul.
Leriephars
A rise INS rawared from the Lords, repeeirop a commit.
mein se shdr lardhlue er the sit wed Ii Repass alibi Cm-
Mem of Seesch Hich_lend Sortey.—Ordered.
Ur. MRCSS BIDURNE pretested ease Papas repttling
Asa Hem, Does et tbe ilk of Has
ROW a third the ad pared, tie Lim Export Duey Pimp-
Am lit
Red a Mend time. the hi& Listen Meautature RegulatioD
all o•Contatittal ror. Tedder.
DITINCI OW TVS MPHIL
The Report of the Bill for efiablifiting and main-
taining a permanent Additional Force for the De-
fence of the Empire, was brought up. The Amend-
ments mete read a firfi time.
On the queftinn being put from the Chair, " That
thel Amendments be now read a fecund time,"
Mr. MOORE listed his objellions very fully on
the fubjeft. The opinions which be bad at firli form-
ed with refpett to the Bill were llrengthened confi-
derably by the thfcoffion that it had undergone. The
principle upon which it was formed was not only con-
trary to the nature of our Conftitutlon. but alfo to
that of every free Conititution in the world, namely,
the furresdering of a power by the Legifiature into
the hands of aidinifier, no matter what his charac-
ter, which may pollibly be converted into the means
of fobverting the rights and libenies of the people.
The Army of Referee AR was objeltionahle in Come
paints, but then it was only a temporary meafure ; it
was mean as a ineafure of repair, but this will throw
down the whole fabric. The India Bill was objeCted
to as a firong.rnerafure, but then h regarded the inte-
t a of only sight or ten men, and the Country might

now, perhaps, have. been many millions the hater of
it. The recent is a firciag =afore, and- it, areas
the interilt of the whole eommunity. He had eir-
petted that fontething great would have been dose
by the new Minifter, on his coming into power, to
reconcile the people of Ireland. If that had Wei
done, there need not now be kept a body of al,coo.
men as fentinels over the people. The Honorable
Member then related Tome of his &riser °Nations
to the Bill, and related a circomftance that fell with-'
in his own knowledge, of a private is the Tower
Hamlets Militia having applied for his difebarge, on
a fuppofition that the terms of his engagement had
expired ; but be was told that the war was not over,
and upon infiaing further. was fentenced to receive
Soo lathes. Upon Mr. M.'s interceffica, however,
any of them were remitted.
The Honourable DENNIS BROWNE could not
imagine what could be the Honourable Gendemaa's
view in the allufion he made to Ireland. But be could
take upon him to afert that the people of that coun-
try were not difaffeded ; that a French enemy land-
ing there would find hitufelf as much in an entray's
country as if be landed in England t that the at-
tachment of thalEample of Ireland were not with, but
decidedly the French ; and with rasa is
the army, air might be the Honourable Oct
tleman's views for the fuggeftions he had modes *a
were equally unfounded.
The quenion was now loudly called for, wheel ben-
era were ordered to withdtaw' and the Hoag di-
vided, Aes, for reading, 63 ; Noes, 69.—Msiork1
againft Mr. Pitt. 6.
After the divifion, and during the cedars of
&angers, a difeuffion took place of a nature ex-
tremely fingular. Mr. Role objeaed to the numbers
declared, es the majority was compiled, in his opi-
nion, of Gentlemen who had not bees in the Houk
at the time when the quake was pat, nor beard
what little debate occurred, bat rated into the Houk
merely to give their otes, and took their adverfaries
by a forprise which be deemed unfair'. He appakd
to Mr. Fox to ay, Whether be masa hWelf of that
number ?
Mr. FOX replied. that be was unceekkue of, and
far front being a party to any unfair arlaus be-
teg taken ; but he candidly owned that be bad been
fibs time at of the Houfe ; and. in the cosh:floe
the Haste wale, when the "maks was called for,
by the awfther of Members who. en fah
Oraly vas called away front the rehearseu they
taffies, be could not take upon him to, fly
whether be was or was not io the Houle at
ETZtient it was yet from the Chair.
..hr. ROSE declared. ibetbe could tabs upon him
`to fay then were at leak fix ether Members who en-
mod the Hoefe after Mr. Fox, and who could not
therefore have heard the qoeltion pot; for which ra-
ffia be fobinitted whether the (melba% had been fairly
decided epos. Upon this a long converfation enfne4
(which was the more curious. as, by tht order of Par-
liament, is any proceeding on fah mseftioes they
were all oblieed to (peak fitting, and with their hats
on) the red& of which was, that the Chancellor of
the Ezelsesper admitted the right of any Member to
vote who came in before the divifioe, and time-enough
to be counted ; the eonfequence of which wee.* ma-
jority of fix ageing the amendments being seer read a
(awed time.
• Mr. GREY then moved, that the amendments be
read a fecoad time on this day three smooths.
Sir JOHN WROTTESLET appofid the motion,
and armed merit, to the Bill for getting rid of the
atifehlef of reifies
_men for rank. The aggregate
somber to be railed by this Bell would be exy_the
fame as was required by the ballot ; the °sly Ma-
ma was. that at got rid of that vexations mode of
reifies them, and that the time and meaner of the le.
vy was 'annoyed. He had so doubt that the Militia
would lead their aid to augment the regular force for
any foreign leaks that may be necefferyeoxravedient,
in the fame manner as they did for theexpedition to
Holland. and the other evedidom of the war.—
It bad bees fisted, that Alike to force officers would
comma the defies to enter into the VA Batta-
lions which would be created by attachment to others.
From the tp~i be had in military affairs. he
e knew that were in the hebit rather of enter-
taining a partiality. than a diffike, for Officers ; and
if they hada di like, he knew the forgiving temper of
a foldier to be Inch, that even a fenument of diflike
would not prevent him from entering a regiment.
There were two pasts infilled on by the oppofers of
this Bill as meaty for the improvement of the re-
cruiting felon with refpee to the regular army 1—
the limitation of the time of fervice, and the removal
of exifting impediments. The mode purfued by this
Bill was limple ; it would operate by the ferjeants
mixing Familiarly with the young men; talking of
battles, and recounting the flare they had in them.
This was the way that men were induced to enter on
a military life—
They heard °flanks, aad they lona
To follow to the bell
Were thefe impediments that fhonld be removed ?
As to the other point of limiting the fervice, inftead
of contributing to give us very loon a large army. it
would rather diminifh the trifling force t for if it
was adopted with refpeft to thofe who enlift, the be-
nefit of it fhould alfo be given to thofe who were
(crying. The principle of enlifting fill for limited
fervice was the pureft, as it gave an option of engag-
ing more generally, and of continuing or retiring on
the expiration of the fill term. Conlidering. there
fore that the bill alsolified the ballot, relieved the
landed intereft, put an end to competition. amelio-
rated our defenfive force, and let at liberty qur re-
gular force for more extended operations, he would
give every aid to the progrefi of the bill.
Mr. HOBHOWSE laid, the prefent was a mea-
fore, as was well obferved by a Right Honourable
Gentleman (Mr. Windham) for obtaining men by a
fort of double diffillation, and in every way inferior to
the Bill it was meant to fupercede. There was one ob-
jeftion which he held to be of vital importance. for
it limited the parifh officers, whom it converted into
crimp ferjeants, to give only three-fourths of the
bounty which the officer of the line were allowed to
offer, while it enabled the officers of the line to offer
even twenty pounds for each recruit. and to levy that
aol. upon the parifh for that very deficiency which
be hiinfelf created by outbidding the pariOs. This
was perverting the (perk of all lawful fines, which ne-
cefarily implied a penalty for the negligent or wilful
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tranfgrefiino of Come duty.
The CHANCELLOR of the T:XCHEQIIER

4ofe to pot the Honourable Mankher right_
where he had Imlay nada:en the
i nal (aid, if the. reading of the anrandenentt
been permitted, which by the accident of.a rota
n prevented this days and whieb iiis..:
.., ro poßpona for three math% be , lot
"'' remained ignorant upon the point be.
to argue ; but if would take the nodlitufliditiag
Ito page 13 of the Bill in billsend, be wainhaii laR
that the ComatendingOffieer of tagves&Brit
ed by regulation not to Siceedit
Sir ROBERT BUXTON shendelad lb. 114tila
fee petting off the condonation-of the huiridasste
fee sbeee months as one of the snort itranterdatraY
yearefitioes ever fabmitted to the hoofs. He:was
ralevineed that the • bill. when fairly entiseiood.
would be confidered as a boon by die eisettry, sad
t therefore he felt in his coati:ism= that It eight to be
se by the Legifiaturra
:reBURROUGHS el& gobs at foss
in rapport of the Beal, sad dialed from thohisti
tint a pars hadiag anew saasteltry, se-1
der climparative *asthma, of this toostry
?mace. Midair Id be titans it racalkti 6 tepidly
Is Swats for forego finial any grastpartiost
grotat.cosfulaiag dts paha% sirca•Aspres of the
sad the little pobilbsity whits now ez-
Mod of say tiosedy weaned difpodtioa of the Os&
theotalPowers to check the stabitiou 'of now
' Mr. CLARKE fpoks In tippet of the 1114 raid
exprered Isis regret that due Right Hosk Madams
who brought it forward bed ant an s ogee e.pls
sea sago* ilippest from thst Haifa Rt (*ad an
alfrollslisua =weft his hums remit, that, at a
' momma lis iwimihag so the hearty if ha aspire, a
mean libs he nt amid assetls Smsch of af-
pwity sad 4.140/118. Hs ragrusui &merely, that
at foci a paid, ovary Wag Re grMtaad po.
hies! mime/ was moths* buss ebW
isa. mad this
all the gnat taloa% &malts sad Atka!' of
Emory, want net maalardly cots Mid far the
mamma good of the warm Bat 6,40 fools ,
union was sot obtained, was it media& be wall
A, to in the grit and_ Mena Wi of.the
Right Her. Gentleman fHe was net ese of 'tit*
who could think lightly of &eh an acoullitioa: liis
was not one of thofe who could fe hos ha the
'lligh moralism fo moldy peed epos that
Won. Gentleman by many of theft tadin me se *air
his MakibeinriederatecansoWeieZmia64ool sattoCo fees
WlElfienlb sad is ' piste, Eit the all il
dine Edit am. Gratieuran's Went% in die him
ties of hie country, at Sr imams a ssoussot. . K.
Wouisi sot fo Coon for,the sager anises ebb
shiib the Right Hon.O
inianui's Selt-piepalkho
fie this JUL' was received. by dal dm now Is-
cried it. Hs =Widest -by vodagsgaislMs. Chefs
Ma
S WILLI4U fitAILT fahla that hf film to
be railed by this Ilk was "ha gawkikidasei. and
that the Bill RON did use appeals to sumo bi plash
of any Dal fin mass sass by holm Whoa las
wen Co pripmg ddilheally was a dos wises wo
aught roll of sil as hills light of the primitive at
oar glorious Cosiiimisa. ‘Wara we to at couswry
to thole
already
diamiwis would boto am.
th verye
realses iriat
areptouw:
fortheirths 'alitibuiraadosestri7rs
„sum
It
wasefdeingthels
chafe
ft asaiiik isi the wobastary seal of du crass
try, to adopt as a spet etas to asps hob 114
ten, and be esasdis Wiwi to arm wish the
Radon which bad bout paspolhio4firri the labs.
WNW wary wistylisises forigars the quits, aid tirs
was a powal cr hr linw to withdraw.)
Lord DUNLOE hid. that the fah if hallo*
had steady bola _braised es to the mho SLAW
that drabs the whit coach of ice eowswitud.
bad sot bass s finis nisjoitioo sad% nor a dislikes
tabs*, at say one part of the asuadosasta t it was
therefore wholly unforefeen that say hat catlike as
the pedant one could arils. To prep& foot a los&
don apse the fecond reading of the amendments,
was auemptibliwhat an Hon. Ostend =
prilke-0 ).—He appealed to thole
who were le to the Bill. if they ought sot Se be
above tam loch undue advantages. It was fair
that the 818 fitould either Rand or fall upon items
grounds, and therefore this was certainly an awkward
qaeßion now—(a ferps)--being merely accidental,
and not prefaced by any argument whatever.
Mr. HENRY LASCELLES rofe, when the
Hottfe were again calling loudly for the queftion, and
Paid, that be appealed to the Route, whether or not
they were ailing according to the general cultism ?
He called on older Members to determine. if it was
not contrary to the praelice of the Houle of Com-
mons to admit of fuch a motion, after the Bill had
been allowed to pafs through In many of its Rages r
—(He was proceeding to make Tome aUuSons to
the opinions delivered m the former Rages of the Bill.
when he was interrupted by a general cry of Oder.]
Mr. GREY (poke to order, and faid that he did
not apprehend that upon any Inch qtrattion it was
proper to canvas thus the former proceedings of the
Houfe.
The SPEAKER faid. that it was not out of order
for any Hon. Member to alledge the prior proceed-
ings9n a Bill as a realms for his voting.
Mr.LASCELLES thencontinued hisobfervatiotia,
and was proceeding to confider the merits of the Bill
itfelf, when
Mr. JEKYLL again (poke to order, laying, that
be thought the Hon. Gentleman had mAriolliefdy
infringed the order and privileges of die ,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
faid, the Hon. Gentleman who thus (poke to order
as to the impropriety of (peaking of a pall tranfation,
had, with a fingular fagacity, called the other Gen-
tleman to order at the very moment he (Mr. Lai-tel-
ler) teemed to be entering into obfervations as to the
Bill dell.
M. LASCELLES faid a few words more in de-
fence of the Bill.
Mr. FULLER rofe amid the general cries of
4, goeltion," and is Strangers withdraw ;" and after
procuring tome degree of Glenee, he faid. 0 PR
never be fuck a tool for party. as to (peak for time,
(~ f pound leech) let tte come at once to a divi&on."
[To understand this, it is limitary to inform our
Readers, that in the beginning of the evening it was
generally fuppored that the oppofers of the Bill were
the majority in the Houle. Inked, ther, fore of en-
tering Into a difeufGon, they eried aloud for the
Tuition to be put.]

Mr. RYDER WA that AIMS* the swotted
objeitt if the priest MOPE tear ten dike.
Goes pone of the GoOmmellippoift -it homed hi. • 4
dined to fay a angle ward imem the liaise He
appealed to the ebbe Members silk Hoofs, if they
mar votelleiled of Sue a preening having been at-
tempted imam the amemdeseme thatiled by a Com-
mies*. He semibold-of tar othempt of a fimilar
;ma
inure halftime Is ordsito get rid of a
Eill. Hit* ow, .nettkink it his duty to go
into a &Afton upon fu .On incidental point, with.
not. at leak Sating hk ratios why be thought the
Hbe. Cattleman's modem ought to be negatived.
With Terra to the *sea of the Bill, be expreffed
his far& that Gentling* *odd be fo very in.
uoufthent is their condo° ; geea when the Right
I" Gestiell" formerly zwilhiled his plan, pre.
Ikea to his coming into tam_. it was generally ap. A
mood of by thole very Oftemiet eileo now feemed II
*1 is it. He ass inifilidet their
LltheleedloO, be Maenad by very
11
He coneialled with moving
ea Ws de Medea. vehicle was, thin in-
land Ms wade thin moodmvehe words
10 Womeefsior be for the farther eenti.
'Olga of the no the Bell.—( Tim on,
*as a km! et% I
_of bias f .60fitei /)
ek W. WILBER+ i faid. be °ply tie to detain the
Hese lir o few minutes he order to jellify the vote
.he welt, iclite epos this oecafion. Although he
had mad with the Gentlemen on ebe other
fide the Bell, as being thought tratoaltitu-
doled, yet be the prim% exam very unfair.
and Menem he could not think of fopportiog them
ia the partkohir.
Mr. it. WARD faid, ha could not hear fuch an
without entering his prime&
Zitaialfrrie"dasigthahmea mak fume alle thom to the coo-
lish*
fr, nod worth Gby Joh pow
I Musa oh i .
s mplkin. Auld kid, that the
expeadassati whisk baud NN made on the Bill bad
ate milemed hie espulaki.
Sir W. GEARY •
Mr. SPENCER WitglidCHOPE raid, be never
imapire-
membered &eh a &rn caelian happenin . He was
folly convinced, that even thee who or
foppoeted fuels-a Sep, woeldi id a then think
k Imam as dif al sodas comenspdhle as any
ere eig H... Getableav owe idoviOted
• lesill Order 1 Ordlir I)
Mr. SP KER Tie, sad itheved, that the Ho-
noarabk Member,. is amply's% tik.=. in that
Hoofs, had certainly seed very
Mr...MULL moved..tha; the Hesour.able Gen.
tlemen's words be takes down.
W. SPENCER STANHOPE 'than contimaed,
and amooled hie fbrow at Whig gom Woad the
paper bands is the rtar.m he bad die He
emend Into a emiqiwi of the femoral plans that
bad bees foggeeed for inermellog the regular army.
tad fed be approved of thiamine More than any other.
lgiss Amy i .
of z obfervid
country)
gaud attosiciledwarto the
mei apes our finances for ass or two years
pregiess to our having a difpiable army ; but this
Nun was tamable as to fart with tans at the fume
dme that we alerted with mosey.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL Paid, that the
Ikie would wifely eaderliand to whom they were
=dfor soy delay which be might maims by
o squab his hatimeate 'peg_ this Saplat too-
de.. It mu one which was peifilb, magotery and
Masi. The HemmunbieGembeimin who had made
the modem keened to &pendent after falls gby sr-
=he could Gassedhegargik:oeme -The only con-
of tack a mattes. . he hoped. would
be- to nettedfimte thp Hoofs to ewer wpm the (objet
idle 818 with mom meantime& on. Moeda next.—
The Hommel* Gendemaa was to de-
ism by farprife, fines be could not defeat by argu-
ment. He withal particularly to be beard by that
delkeiption of perfoas who were sot attached to any
party, nor difpofid to remove his Majeay's
Cfigiar ersfrom their camm, and called on them
to confider what would be the ace of this Bill, if
carried into execution, and what. on the contrary.
would be the oonfequence' iffoch a motion were to
be agreed to. The Honorable Mover honed
to imagine that their patience was tired by the dei-
cer/one that had already taken place upon it, and
' that he could alone gain his point by tome other ex-
traordinary effort, while they bad already been hur-
ried to a divifion, at an unmated hour. An Hon.
Gentleman had Paid, that he would never lend bite&
to be a tool to any party to (peak for time ; but
be (the Attorney General) thought the Honourable
Member had lent hintfelf ton party, by willing to ex-
elude others from delivering their fentintents—[Here
Mr. Puttee Paid a few words from the oppofite fide.)
-.-He bad heard no argument to thew that the effect
of the Bill itklf would be ruinous. It was curious,
therefore. to obferve, to what extent Gentlemen
would go is creating an oppofition to the further dir-
Who of the gnat" by thus flying off from the
very condemns which they had formerly granted.
The mentor* propofed by the Bill was one of-abfolute
needllty. Minor oblations to a meafure which was
generally. acknowledged to be good, were therefore
no objeesons at alt, ankh Similar meafures could be
471, in which fuch inconveniences did not exift.
%."Ittorney General then entered into a minute
inveftigation, and fpirited vindication of this plan,
which, he (aid, upon compatifon, would be found to
excel all others &ached been propofed. by its putting
an end to ballots, and competition. Such a motion
as the pretest (continued he), feemed to originate
from difappointasest. in not finding any jai ground
or foundation fur oppofition (A try of Mar ! Near ! )
tie try the firength, as it were, of his Majelly's Mt-
tilers.
Mr. FULLER here (poke to order and faid, that
he, for one, had tar greaten refpa for the Right
Hon. Gentleman who brought in this meafure to the
coofiderstion of the Houk.
Mr. SPEAKER thought the Right Hon. Gentle-
man (Attorney General) had rather tranfgreffed the
rules of order in fn alluding to the motives of others.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL rerouted, and
faid, that he could not help thinking that when every
reams of oppofition to thee meafures appeared to be
removed, that he was jellified in afctibing the motive
to that of being deftrous, at •all events, of inducing
his Majelly to change his Government. He hoped,
therefore. that a kind of equality would be kept up
on both fides of the Houle, and they would equally
abflain from deviatin4 from the Rriftnefs of order.

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