Star.
London, England, 1803-06-07 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. Alderman Comae prefented a prition agaloft the Pill for
eitabUnsing a Coal Market in the City of London. Ordered to be
referred to the Calltlllttee 011 the Bill, and the petitioners to be
heard byCoun(eL

Mr. WILLMIIIS prefeoted at the Bar the Second Report of the
Coanmiloom on Naval Enquiry, Cheß at Chatham. Ordered
to lie on the tahle.and to be printed.
Several Petitions were prefented from the Cotton Weaver*, In
Mancheller; from the filk Weavers and Dyers of the fame place;
from the Silk Handkerchief ManufsZturers of ditto; from the
Earthen Ware Nlautifaeturer I. of Ness/calk-upon- f vile, againft
the Bill for confohdadng the Cultoms ; all which were ordered to
lie ou the table.

Ordered, that the Committee to whom the Prtitiora of the
Cotton Weavrra was reined, do report the Evidence laid before
the Houk.

The Eat India Dock llil2 was read *ferried time, and ordered :o
be comniatcd to a C..mmittee above &Ars

Mr. BMODLIIIt. It reported front the R,donriliire Committee,
that the Sitting Members were duly eledttd, aid that the pct.tion
was not frivolous or vexatious.

The Ship Burning Bill was read a third time, and paged.
The Ships' Pag.tigers BiU was read a third time, and pair-d.
The Militia Pay and Cioa thing Bill was read a Brit time, and
ordered to be read a fecund time to-rmwrow, and to be printed.
'1 be Ordnance Lands Bill was Committed. the Report received,
and the Bill ordered to be re ad a third time to morrow.

The StCRITAR T at WAR brought up fewend papers relative to
Malta, in purfuance of the Order of the Huufe. Ordered to he on
the table.

The CU ANC, ttoo of the Excite vex pollponed the Order for
taking into canfideration the Report on the Confolidation of the
Cult owls which flood for to-morrow, to Thurfday.
The Dublin Port improvement Dill was read a fecond time, and
committed for to-morrow
COMMITTEE OT surrt.r.

The Houle refolved itfelfinto a Cornrnittec of the whole Houle.
to eonfsder of the Supply to he granted to bLI. Majefty—Mr. Alex-
ander in the Chair.

The SICRITARY at WAR then rofe to lay before
the Houle,

THR ARMY ESTIMATIS.

He raid, that in propofing the iflimates for the
Army, the filbjetit divided itielf into two parts: one
cf them an addition to that offered by him in De-
cember—the 2d part, relating to Tome augmentation
of the Regular Forces embodied, the Militia, Supple-
mentary Militia, &c. The Royal Military College
was the firll ;wide he alluded to, which, he faid,
would exceed the expcnces of halt year by about
30001. ; in that the expence of this year, for that
ellablifhment, would be 80001. He Mattered himfell
that, shin the nature of the Inflitution was confi-
dered, it would be found of the greateß benefit to
the Country, and hoped it would be kept up. His
nest was the Royal Military Afylum, for which he
repelled gt,oocl. of which 2 t,oool. was necetrary to
ccmplete the building. 'Fbefe expences were c'tnfi•
derably more than the eflimat,!, owing to the ei!pu:e
we had, at the dole of the war, v ith the Northern
Powers, which very much increafed the price of many
of the materi.,is wanted for it. This year he fhould
only alk r 0,0041. on account for furniture, and other

neecfrary articles for the accommodation oldie chil
dten, which made up the fum of 31,(nol.
fe-
cund part related to the Forces. The army com-
plete, as voted in Decenthet, amoti:ed to gio,rco
men. The augmentation intended at preknt was
in the Car y ; to men in each company remained
on foot, it was now propofed to re-mount tide, and
replete them by recruits. To bring every company
of Font Guards to the foil scar complement. The
next anementaiion arole from the alteration of the
the different regimelits, owing to
the abolition of the praa:ce of Field Oflicers having
companies. It was now propofed to and three Cap-
tains in Cavaltry and Inforry, each of which was
to raife a certain number of men : that every Lieut.
fhould raife 3o men for his tank, and every Enlign
ro. The expence Pf this meata:e would be upwards
of 3 c,OOA He then enumerated the feveral items
for the Pay, Clnathing, Scc. of the Army, I\ fiNtia,
Supplementary the total of which, or
Guist Britain, amounted to
For Ireland, to S 70,0c01-
Making a total of
,c 3,1 10,030.
He then moved the &II Refolution, which being read
by the Chairman,

Mr. WIN DHAM laid lie had no new objeflion to make
to the nrefent arrange nent, but one, and that was,
the fyllem of railing men for rank. It was a filbjed
however into which he would not enter at large at
that moment. He muff neverthelets recur to his old
objetlion, that the greateft part of the forces are to
be Militia, the psriiality to which went directly to
fuckle the and dry nurfe the Army ; fur the
Militia will, in Ibis inflance, be served first, and the
confequctice mull be, the recruiting of the Army
would either (land (lilt or go backwards, by which
we (hall be paying great fums of money for very little
additional force. He then called the attention of the
Houfe to the nature of the aruggle we had to en-
counter, and the abilities of chore who were to carry
on this conteft on the part of this Country. A fet of
perfons, who; after procraflinating Negotiation till
the hall moment, had rafhly plunged into a war, and
now they found it necelftry to fit out !hips, mile men,
and make a butte. It was neceffary, however, that
they Arnold now prepare for the worn that could hap-
pen, for there was nobody he believed could fay when
they would have an opportunity of fneaking out of
the War again as they had fneaked into it. Sneaking
preparations, however, or fneaking operations, would
not be fufficient ; for this Country is now in a fitua-
tion in which it may lofe, and cannot win. If we do
not prepare at all points, and enable nurfelves to pufh
at all advantages, the war may be indeterminate in
its nature. We had to deal with an enemy who would
not omit any occa(ion of annoyingus, and hail every
reafon to believe that he would attack us on our owe
Chores. It had always been allowej by chore who
were adepts in the art of War, that the befiegees had
many advantages over the befitged, and it was there-
fore of the higheft importance that we fhould fetiouf-
ly confider how far in that retpe& the force now railed
is fufficient for the purpofe. In his opinion it was
not. In cafe of an int/Afton by fuch an enemy as we
had to deal with, regular troops mull be oppofed to
regular troops ; it was " diamond cut diamond." If
an invafion fhould come on, it might come like a.tor-
rent, and if not properly oppoind (weep down all
before it. He thought the Militia by no means fulFs.
eient to Item fuch a torrent, if °opt-sled to it ; and Will
it is, and molt be a means of eating np and decrear
fing the regular Army. He would have lets Militia
and more Army ; and fhould any thing further be
wanting (and much further he feared would hc want.
in) hewould adrift the Houfe to retort to the method
of railing the Country en map, a force he would allow
lets regular than the Militia, an irregular force if yea
will, laid he, bu: a force in drawing forth, which ht
had the utmoll reliance from the well-known bravery
and fpirit of the people of this Country. He thought
to fuch an expedient we mull have recourfe at laft,
and therefore he would recommend our retorting to
it at fir!. Minifters would thereby give a chance of
recruiting the army, which will be highly neceffary if
affairs on the Continent do not take a different turn.
He then adverted ro the caufes which had heretofore
brought us into different VMS. Among there the
mat prominent was the balance of power. He
expatiated at confiderable length on this Inkier,
and laid that it had lately been in a great measure
deftroyed. When the balance is totally deftroyed, as
it Items to be between France and England, there
was but one way to make the fcales even, and that
would make the mediation of other Powers neceffary.
This, he feared, would be no eafy matter, however
Ministers might fuppofe the contrary. They might
terilade themfelvcs of the good willies and good
offices of thole Powers with whom we had formerly
been in friend hip; but in fo doing, he feared they
would only buoy tip their hopes in the fame way that
Mother Cole, in Foote's farce, did of being fared by
her religion, which (he laid was a comforinkt per.
iisqcon for one of her calling. So the hopes of me-
diation might be a comfortable perfualion to thole
who made Peace, negociated, and again went to war,
as our Miniilers had done. If, however, he was Aced,
where he was to begin on this 10).0, his anfwer
was, he could not tell—thanks to the Treaty of
Amiens, that has turned the whole Continent into
an iron-bound coati, and that its cut in fuch a nom-
ner that we cannot get a boat among them in the
whole length of its frontier. It had always been fup-
poled the Continent would not fubmit to this, but
time had proved that fuppofition was not well found-
ed, and he was forty to fay that the latter para-
graphs of our declaration did not tend to induce
them to alter their prefect fyflem, as it exprcfsly
breathes a fpirit of aning upon felt interefted mo-
tires—that the objects we have in view are the means
of promoting our own interefted schemes, and that
if they were to join with us, we lhould abandtm tlicm
again, as we had done before. He then adverted
once more to the Treaty of Amiens., which .he Paid
had been Ilyled a treaty of experiment; but he feared
it was one that would he found to hinge on as (Ate
a fpeculation as that of Mr. Whitton, who foretold
the approach of a comet that was to dellroy the
world on a certain day. If alien that day came, and
the world continued as entire and profperous as be-
fore, any one had :irked Mr. Whiflon the day afters
what was become of his prophecy, he could only have
antwer.d. that it was a Ipectilation founded on a mit-
taken experiment. Such, he frivoled, mull be :he
answer of our Minifters as to their experimental
Treat r. Seeing, however, as we had done. the bane-
ful effects of the witty of Amiens, in (hutting us 0..;

from the intervention nr the afrirlastee of the regular
Governments of the Continent, it bzturved us to look
to other experiments, which might in fume fart make
up for their lots. We molt look not nnlv to the
Rnyalifts of France, but to the Rnyalifts of Holland,
to the Royalias of Switzerland, to the Royalins of
the Italian Republics, and to all the Roya.iils in
every quarter of Europe, who have been fo deeply
injured by the depredating and all-grafping hand of
this tyrannical enemy to the liberties of mankind.—
We mutt always diftinguifh between our willies and
our hupes ; he had h yes enough to warrant, that we
had nothing to fear ultimately from the attack of
our Country. He would in no cafe hirlanguine as
en events, but he lhould never defpair, when he law
Inc fpirit of the cntintry called forth, and its exer-
tions placed in the hands of thole who knew how to
dire& them with vigour, propriety, and cffea. If he
faw better hopes in war than he did in peace, he
would be for war : but he feared he might fay with
the P
4, Creatures that love night love mot fucb night§ a. there."

So he might add—
" People that love wars, love not Loh wars as there."
He would not, he laid, add any thing further on ibis
head ; but he thought the Army Estimates dally
conflated with it, and a want of vigour and energy
may ruin every mediate. The Cubic& of Invon
he, fir one, never did make light of; and we have
n, w• to Jo with an enemy that will attempt any thing;
and it we don't look forward, the form may bilrfl
over o•tr heads before we were aware of, or prepared
for it. He compared our flotation to that of a Ihip
in a form ; where, if the have .1 brave and affive
crew, good officers and able pilots, there is every
hope and expeetation the Ihip may get fife into port ;
but if not, (he will inevitably (minder. It feemed to
him, that we have a crew who make tile of language
that nobody undeillands. They talk of the Ipirit
of the country, and that the pe••ple will rife to a man ;
but do not tell us how they will be officered ; and if
we Lase mo better pilots than they hive hitherto prov-
ed theml.lves, we cannot flatter notielves with fay
inG our bti k. The country he looked upon to be.
what it ever had been, and, if its refources were pro-
perly called' forth, he had no fear ; but our prelent
Minniers were men—
u Whn nev,r in a Cquadron in the field,
" Nor the uiviilon of a haute imow,

" More thsn a (pirate!..."
From Inch men, therefore, he could have nn great
reafina t.' hope est:tam-din-at y 'natters, and he thought
it more peculiarly hi. duty to remind them and the
Hook of the t.xtr.toldinaty difficulties we had to en-
-0011111(1.
Mr. Purr role, and raid he (horrid only fay a very
few word. on the prefent occalion. From the nate-
tnent now laid on the tab'e, he was not able to of
certain uric important faCI, and thetcfure he begged
leave to afk his Nlajeft 's Moline's, if what is opened
this day be .ill tut I•,rce that is meant to he called
forth to atif.ter the prefent emergency ? As this
Efkablifhntent sans voted .it the commencement of the
Sawn, he had been of opinion, that it was ton great
for a time of peace ; but as matters were pow cir-
cumilanced, the contrary feemed to he the cafe. He
was averfe from afkin4 what was intended to be the
number of tortes to be employed, that peculiarly be-
longed to has Majelly's Monikers to divulge ; he WAS
alfu averie from cowing into any details at prefent ;
but if he thought the prefent forces were to be all that
it was intended to call for, it would fill him with
great apprehenfion and infinite regret. However, as
he did not mean to pref, the fubjea, he only threw
out thefe hints for the confederation of his Majelly's
Mininers.
The Seta [TART at Was fail that the plan of his
Majelty's Minifters was to bring forth Inch a force as
fhould be deemed, on the moil mature deliberation,
fully adequate to the defence of the kingdom in every
part. He then adverted to Mr. Windham'a argu-
ments, and laid the Right Hon. Gentleman had, in
the greaten part of them, conjured op a phantom
which he meant afterwards to combat. He might,
however, mike eafy on that head, fur isle
snifters were determined not to confine themfelves to
the means of dcleate alone, hot to fuch Ai would ena•
ble them -to !hike at lath
01:CAIIMIS AS may offer, to
annoy the en my by every mod: i i our power. When
the Right H Gentleman talked fis much of vigour,
be did nil item ta recoiled, di rt it confined in frame.
thing more ig words. we have nnw,
be raid, a much grea•er t iice sin foot than we ever
bad at the comineacement of any fit: mer war,, brit
be did nit ray that was luffiaient ; he did not fay
that all our coat gifts might not to be called forth. It
was the intention of his M ferveuts to call
f a-th loch a number of faipplenientary forces as fhould
be not only futfirient for defence, but faith as would
kave us a difpofeable force ails, whenever occafion
might induce us to tile it ; and when we had got the
men, it would then be time et-m.lO to look for the
money. The probalnin y of invafion, therefore, how.
ever much it was to be deprecated, ought not to throw
is into a panic, nor lead us to ripple, that if at-
tempted, it will not ultimate}, tend to thedilcomfiture
and difgrace of the enemy ; and, he believed, if it be
ever attempted, very few of :hole who tea med part of
the et:pedalo-in, if they ever ilaurt d cried a Landing,
would get back to France tt tell the effed of the rafh
anterprize in which they had engaged. On the rub.
hr.R of peace, he had but bole to fay, only that he
ad always keen one of thole who approved of it.—
The Rigut Hon. Gentleman that by the
Treaty of Amiens we , ave up the Continent. How
did we fo The reverie was the cafe ; and his chief
Peafon for approving it was, that in that yelped we
could no lounger derive any advantage from prole.
cluing the war. He denied the affertion of the Right
Hon. Gentleman, that the fy nem of this country had
ditheartened the Continent. Nothing thews this (ince
the Treaty of Amiens; and before that we had fought
a glorious fight, to keep up our connection
He denied that the (yam intended to be porfued by
Miniilets was merely defenfive. As to the Militia, lie
complained that the Right Hon. Gentleman did clot
bring forward his objedum to the fyllem when it was
firft propofed ; and wants to know what it has always
been? He fhould not follow the Right Hnn. Gentle-
man thintigh all his points: the question now on the
table is only to vac money fit. Inch forces as have
been thought necctfary. .I' he Right Hon. Gentleman
raid, regnlar tromps instal b- ..ppo rJ to regulars.
He fhould be glad it lhould be fo, but dues not fee
the nteellity of ,t_witneff. the militia of America•--
He would alGa ant him. nt, ,t oappened to France in
the la& wasp when tho King of PrufLa entered,

France French forces then conned chiefly of
the tettioorl guard, hut they did not fuller themfelves
to be terrified by that coalition, though they were
then without thole:numerous good officers which they
proctired during the cootie of the war. He thougiit
the Right Hnn. Gentleman, by his arguments, (hewed
mote delpontlcncy than there scab any occalion for;
and if an iovalion Ihould take place, he made no
doubt. but the people of this country would evince
that they pone-Wed the inflexible fpirit, and undaunted
courage of their anceftors, and would boner die than
yield up one iota of their liberties to the Mask- ag-
grellions and impudent attempts of an enemy, whole
general conduct has juftly ittfpired them with
art a't-
horrence and deteflation of hischaratter, and a Ready
and firm refolution to lhed their tail drop of blood,
rather than fubmit to fuch a determined foe, to the
dearetl intereas of a free and enlightened people.
Mr. PITT declared himself much latisfied by the
flatement of his Right Hon. Friend, who had jolt fAt
down. HT. was happy that Islioi.ters had rethived
to adopt meafithes of vigour fuited to the lituation of
the country ; and of cotirfe, had they not propofed
to go further than the Refoltitions before the Com-
mittee, he would have been very difcontented indeed;
but he could not help expreffiug his with that this
plan Ihould be brought forward as early as pofli•
hie—even though not quite matured, it Ihould be
fubmitted to the Houle, in order to relieve the anxi-
ety of the public. They Ihould lee the evidence of ac-
tivity and refolution. They Ihould however fee that
a neceffity exiited for the adoption of a meafure more
vigorous than has ever before been tried. It was in-
deed deferable that the neceffity and the means taken
to meet it fhould he equally obvious to the country.
That was the mode of fecuring unanimity. With re-
fpect to the Militia, he confidered that a force pecu-
liarly calculated for defenlive pin-poles, and altar for-
nilhing the means of employimga larger proportion
of the zegular army as a dill:10/4111e force ; however,
whether for offenfive or chitenfive war, the country
Ihould he in poileffion of a complete force, and en-
abled to avail itlelf of any opportunity of attack which
',light offer. For that purpole then the report allud-
ed to by the Right Hon. Gentleman ought to be im-
mediately brought before the Houk. It was much
better, under the prefent circumitances, that it Should
be limn propofed, and that it Should be eafily and im-
objedionably paned. The question is to ferve the
country. Let that be done, and it the neceffitry mea-
lures flinuld even incur odium—if it Should provoke
refiflance in carrying it into execution, (which, from
the knowledge he had of the loyalty and good fenfe
of his countrymen,he thoughtextremely improbable,)
that refiitance ought to be encountered. Let the
fafety of the country be provided for. The people
exfieded it, the Parliament lhould be pledged to it,
and the peculiar cir comftances of the State demanded
it. He underßood that it was intended very loon to
fubmit to the Houfe a Ilatement of our finance, and
it would be a good foundation for that Ratement to
thew the number of men and other means provided
for the public defence; it would be a very proper ac-
companiment to a defcriptioa of their btu-diens. He
conlellid himfell perfeety latisfied with the general
principles upon which Miniders ailed, and withed
that all their proceedings might be in unifon. If,
therefore, any of the proceedings which it might
be effential to adopt in the prefent crifis Ihould ex.
pole them to obloquy, he would cheerfully take his
Share. Referring to the remarks made by his Right
Honourable Friend, he would elk of him whether,
if we had not 70.003 Militia for the defence of
the Country, we Should not be obliged, particu-
larly in the prefent foliation of affairs, to keep the
fame number of regular troops at home to fop-
ply their Rations'? If fo, then were not the militia
for every put pole a valuable body of men? Indeed
he held it to be very impolitic to make any diltinc•
thins between the leveret deferimions of our military
I oce. It was Isis with, and he alfo.knew it to be not
Ids the inclination of the officers of the militia them-
Selves, that they Mould fight fociably in concert with
the regal sr army, for whom they entertained all the
esteem which was due to loyal companions in arms.
But his Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Windham)
had Slated, that there were not men fufficient in the
country to limply the army and militia; the fad
however, that from the report of the moll in-
telligent pert'. xis, it appeared that towards the dole
of the lad war roo,ooo men cowl I have been railed
by ballot, without making any injurious dedudion
from the numbers neeeirtri to the purfuits of agri-
culture and ma%ufaFtur el, but that officers could not
be conveniently procured for none than 70,000 men.
If fh, thcit here was a difference of 30,000 applica
We to any fopplementary force which occallon might
call for. With regard to the allufions of his Right
Honourable Ft iend to the ohjed or conduct of the
lan war, And his willies, that it had been more made
a Study to attack the G.wernment of France, or ra-
ther, that it had been the principal point of attack,
however lie concurred in the wishes of his Right Ho-
nourable Friend, he could not help obferving, that
his opinionsat that time feemed to refult more from
the high and generous impulle of his feelings than to
be the fruit of psolound policy or mature refleftion.
Recurring to the plan alluded to ty hi. Right Hon.
Ft iend (the Secretary at War), he exprelfed his con-
fidence that it would be immediately introduced, and
that it would be fo contrived as to fecure immediate
execution; that whatever fupply of men was to he
railed, Gould not depend on the precarious and ta•dy
fyflem of recruiting ; but that means Should he taken
to have the ranks speedily filled up. The advantage
which loch a force would derive from the direCtions
of officers, regularly trained and experienced. as his
Right Honourable Friend had referred to, would no
doubt be highly important. The Right Honourable
Gentleman 'tady recapitulated his principal ergo-
ments, and contended, that from the cafe he had
cited, of 30.000 men being forthcoming, by ballot, 1
more than could be drafted on the militia, and from
other circumilances,the populationof the coon, ry was
more than adequate to any exigencies, either for the
army or militia, and therefore, he contended. that the
fears of big Right Honourable Friend as to the diffi-
culty of recruiting for the army in confequence of
the increafe of the militis, were quite groundleft.
The Cearceccoa of the Eget, "rapers Paid, that
lie entirely concurred with the Right Hon. Gentleman,
that whatever was found to be abfolittelynecenary fur
the fafety of the country, ought undoubtedly be made
known, without loft of time, to the people at large ;
nor had he any doubt that all expences attending any
filch curo:din:try ['oilier would be cheerfully fuf-

t lined. That there was a very extraordintry necef
lir v for gre.tt exertion at the pi efent crifis was beyond
doubt, and he was thoroughly convinced that it
wa, already In lie cntiv known by till rv,
ar 'tall he had no reafun to tl;:i,k others, ire. I lis
Right lion. Friend had laid, that we ihould nor reiy
on the amount of our militia, nor cle yeomen of the
country, but on our regular fired: ire begged, Inlw
ever, to remind th it Right Hon. Gcol,:maii, that
the regular force within the cou,u-v was c,llC:.iera-
hly greater at this vary morneot than datlog any
period of the late war, excepting at tile time of as
embarkation for foreign fervice. The Right lion.
Gentleman who fpoke firil fre:red c,implain f the
great proportion of Militia F-rees on which th: de.•
:ence of the coontty tab; th It ohjeClion linwev,t he
thought was IntEciently anf,t•ered, when it was faid
to be intended merely as a &let:live force. Looking
at the pcpuiark.n of the country, linking at the
means of conlituting a military lot cc, lie did not
mean to fay that there might act be a very confider.
able augmentation afforded to our regular army,
hut we mutt confider the convenience of the country,
and the general fittiation of the people who ate ail
engaged in various purfuits throughout the king.
dom, and relied how we can draw out fioto amnngll
the population, the largett military force, both for
public fectirity and operations abtoad. It was the
method by which a Country could he amide capa-
ble of producing a force. 10,-,th with the grcatefl advan-
tage and convenience, which ought to be adopted on
every occafion. As to the danger which might arile
from invafloa, a circumftance which has been all.
alluded to by that Right Hon: Gentleman, he seas
well aware that it seas one which ought always to be
provided against with vigilance, and it was one which
he himfelf could fately affirm he had never once at
tempted to tinder tate, though no doubt it was one
which had lwen deplcrably under-rated hl- fonts indi-
viduals even upon a fetinus emergency. It was At ail
events our ditty to be fully prepared, and that t.
without delay, for whatever emeigency might rice to.
He begged to refer the Hon. Gentleman to the con•
dada Government in the year iScot. There were,
he was certain, many individuals in the Houfe who
would atteft the circumftance, that during that
period there was no infenfibility on the part of
Government in regard to that particular, nor any
want of afloat exertion againft it. The Count!),
were not fufficiently aware of the preparations on
the coat of France at that par. icular period, nor
were they at all aware of the great exertions and
means employed by Government to meet that threat-
ened danger. At a tints when we were under the
necellity of defending our rivers before the return of
our Baltic :::et, which was a time of great danger,
he ccadd affore the Houfe, that Government neither
(lumbered nor flept. They, no doubt, entertained a
prudent dente to avoid giving coo much alarm to the
Country at large ; but they, at the fame time, en-
tertained a fired determination to call forth all pof.
fable exertions; and tiled every prudent precaution
for that purpofe, In far as was confident with the
plan which they had adopted, in cafe the danger af.
fumed an appearance at which it did not arrive, but
which it threatened to affitme front day to day during
the greater part of that summer. He affirmed, there.
tore, that he thought himfelf entitled to refer thofe
who were unacquainted with the condut of Govern.
ment on that occation, to thefe particulars of their
procedure, as a pledge of our prelent difpolition. and
our determination to meet any event of the kind which
may now be threatened.. He conceived that when
Government lately carried an Addrefs to the foot of
the Throne, in anfwcr to his Majelly's MefTage, they
gave the folemn pledge of this Houle to put forth
every exertion which the fituation of the country
required, and its powers would admit. That the
means to be tifed upon the piefent occafion, mull be
great and unparalleled he undoubtedly confidered
laude bound to confefs ; and when an appeal was to
be made to the Houle to meet the financial difficuldes
incident to loch a cribs, inch an appeal, he felt confi•
dent in laying, would not be made in vain. He faid
that he had heard, with confiderable fatisfadion, from
a quarter from which he expelled nothing of the
kind• that a hope exited of there being a readinefs in
the Houfe to affociate itlelf with the Executive Go.
vcrnment in all meafures which were worthy of flip.
pot t, and to fhare in whatever might be the obloquy
attachable to any part of the proceedings of Mini-
tiers, in order the more effedually to attend to the
honour and fectirity of the country. It was not from
a great &fire to avoid fuch obloquy that he rejoiced
at hearing fuels expreffions, but it was from its teti.
lying to the country, that in providing for the fafety
of the people, there was only one exiting opinion,
one dilpotitiou in Parliament. This, he concluded
with Paying, was not a time for defpondency and
difrnay, but it was one in which it was indilpenfibly
neeeffary to call forth the utmoll fortitode and exer-
tions of a generous, loyal, and a courageous people,
who have not been found wanting in fuch ftrenuous
efforts on former occafions, which even did not re.
quirefuch extraordinary exertions as the prefent one.
Mr. VerniDH•/4 explained. He laid, that he only
helitated as to a reliance on a fugitive and tranfitory
impulfe at a erifis like the prefent. He witted to fee
a plan laid down for the employment of (time fettled
and efficient means. He had not thrown out any
thing like a fuggeflion of defpondency, but he con.
felted his anxiety to know what were the means to
which Miniflers meant to refort for our defence.

General TA a I. R Tom laid, he approved the meafures
adopted by Mini(lets, and ctngratitlared the Honfe
on the fpitit and determination (hewn by the people
to defend their country. Mr. Bolton, a relpea ible
merchant in Liverpool (the town he reprefents) had
made an offer to raife a regiment, which his Majeft y
had accepted.—That Gentleman had not been a week,
nor even a day, in railing this regiment, for in ore
hour sad a half he had ash:led 590 ((tong, able, and
effeftive young men.
General NOR TON laid, he had no fear the people
would be off their gu,rd, and rnerrioned one or two
inftances in which he had witneffed their vigilance on
the coat during the lall war.
Mr. WOODMAN laid in explanation, that if the peo-
ple were off their guard they might go down as the
Royal George did at Spithead.
Sr JANI,I PULTINS T laid, he had no doubt of the
good will of the people to defend the country, but
that is not filificient againll an invading army ; a
body of people hailily armed and got together could
not be futticient to flop the progrefs of a regular ch=
cipliocd assay, aad timed-ate Come lath plan as that

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