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4, hole and corner" proceeding of the Loyal Address-
ers, who ought to have called a County Meeting
before they ventured to promulgate their private opt-
itions as being those of the County at large. The
present requisitors had acted in a more becoming
manner: they had come forward openly and Corm-
tutionally, Unlike the interested party, who looked to
preferment, not to principle—(Hear, hear, hear J—
ana who fabricated their documents in secret corpcs
t diens and enmities' closets. The Hon. Baronet
then commented with great severity . upon the con-
duct of those Ultra Royalists, and defended the cho-
ral* of the County from the imputations which
they had cast upon it. In some way or another Par-
liament ought to do justice to her Majesty. Her
rame ought, without delay, to be restored to that
Liturgy from which it was so indecently and impro-
perly withdrawn before any trial or condemnation
land taken place. How could Ministers venture to
lake out of the pockets of an impoverished people
leexpenses of this scandalousaproceeding ? (Hear).
fortunate it would be for the country if the
sl4lMitiosr *old be opened to a sense of the iniquity
4' in Mittikters.lf some patriot could approach
the King and sob 4.4 Oire, your confidence has been
Abused, your cou4ri has been betrayed, by the vile
,Ishe odious acts qf your Ministers : listen to the voice
dllf it loyal and affectionate People, who will in the
Imo, be your best strength, whose hearts are a safer
irLion for your throne and character than the
yonets of millions of armed men under despotic
finisters"—(tlsers).—The Hon. Baronet concluded
by sugge,ung that the Meeting should give three
cheers for her Majesty, which was obeyed with en-
thusiasm by the People.
Mr. MA use came forward, and was received with
great applause. He expressed the great pleasure he
felt at seeing so numerous and respectable a Meeting
assembled on this occa ion, under the auspices of the
Constitutional Officer of the County—(Applause).—
The presence of such a Meeting gave the lie to the
base and mischievous mistatements of a venal and
corrupt Press, which published that Meetings like
the present could not safely be convened, for that
sedition and blasphemy were abroad, and a contempt
for the laws but too prevalent. The People, how-
ever, shewed that they respected both the laws and
the Constitutional Authorities by whom they were
administered. They shewed it there this day in the
reception they gave a Constitutional Sheriff, who
presented a fine contrast to the Sheriff of Dublin, who
twat his fellow-subjects at the point of the bayonet,
when they were assembled at a regularly convened
Meeting under his own auspices--(Hear, hear).—
The conduct of the Ukra-loyalists of Hants was very
ludicrous ; they proclaimed that there ought to be
no -County Meeting, because nine Peers and one
hundred and thirty Freeholders thought it inexpe-
dient. The Requisition by which the present Meet-
ing was convened could only boast of the signatures
of one Peer and seventy Freeholders. Why did not
the nine Lords and the one hundred and thirty Free-
holders con:e before the Public and crush them with
their superior weight?—(A laugh)—Two to one
formed great odds, but nine to one would have been
tremendous--(Repeated lasighter).—Besides, the Ul-
tras had a terrible weight of metal for the fight.—
They could muster all the great guns from Ports.
mouth : and if these did not do execution enough,
they had at hand the small Canons of Winchester !
. .

(Lind bursts of laegider).--But they had fled—their
whole weight was spent after the attempt to become
the great Colossus bestriding the county, and let-
ting the poor Freeholders like himself peep beneath,
and find dishonourable graves. The Honourable
Gentleman proceeded, in a grain of fine humour, to
ridicule the pretensions of the Ultra-loyalists, and to
e spose the secret machinations by h they en-
deavoured to prop a falling Ministry, and concluded
ith giving his hearty consent to the Petitions which
had been moved—(Great applause).
The Earl of CARNARVON then presented himself,
and was received with the most enthusiastic expres-
sions of approbation. He said he had waited thus
long before he addressed the Meeting, in the expec-
tation that, after the able, manly, and constitutional
speeches which they had heard, some one among the
thousands who, according to the Counter-Requisi-
tion, were hostile to the Meeting, might even by ac-
cident have found his way among them, and have
said something rational before the assembled County,
in defence of the principles on which the present
Meeting had been attempted to be suppressed. His
regret at not heating anything rational stated on the
present occasion in defence of those principles, was
increased by the consideration, that not one word of
sense had he been able to find in the Counter-Requi-
sition itself. It was indeed strange, after they had
been told that they formed a paltry minority of the
County, that their opponents had not sent a detach-
:neat of their forces to overwhelm then; if not by
argument, at least by numbers—(Hear). What ne-
cessity was there for calling on the Freeholders of the
County to say that they were loyal to the King and
the Constitution, when that loyalty had never been
rendered doubtful? But because they were all at-
tached to their King and Constitution, did it follow
that there should be no County Meetings on public
measures? Those who had expected such a prepos-
terous opinion, had not only insulted the people of
the County,but had shewn how little credit was due

to their mock Address, in which they professed their
• readiness to defend the Constitution with the last
drop of their blood (cheers); for he had no hesita-
tion in saying, that County Meetings called as the
present had been, were as old, as essential, and
as vital a part of the Constitution, as either of
the Houses of Parliarnebt--(Great oppkuse). He
should next say a word or two about this weighty
counter-requisition, under which the whole county
was to sink. At the head of the list of noble names,
he found the Marquis of Buckingham and the Bishop
of Winchester—(Cries of " Sloasse")l Whether
the Bishop of Winchester had ever visited that
county, he knew not—(" No never"); but this he
would venture to say, that, whatever benefit the Right
Reverend Prelate might himself have derived from
his new See, be had no opportunity of knowing the
sentiments of the county of Hants, and, therefore, it
would have been just as decorous—for surely deco-
rum was expected in the conduct of a Clergyman
if he had not placed Isis name at the head of such a
list—(Applause). Those nibble counter-requisitionists
seemed afraid ill being soiled by the dust of the pre-
ss:a meeting i they were, no doubt, afraid lest their

new stirs and ribands shoidd be dir.ied by coming
into contact with the free tad independent free-
holders of the county,--( se). lie avowed hint-,
air i Whig, whatever the Meeting- might think of
the Whigs; and his reason for uniting himself to that
polidcallody was, a firm conviction that by acting
with them, he took the best, indeed the only way of
remedying the evils in which the country had been
involved—(Great applause). Without delivering any
opinion on the question of her Majesty's guilt or in-
nocence, which had nothing whatever to do with the
conduct of Ministers, it was enough for him to say
that justice could never be administered by the
course which had been pursued—that to pass a law
three or four years after the alleged commission of a
crime, was not becoming a generous people, nay, it
was not becoming a just people—(Great applause).
Yet such was the character or the late proceeding,
which had roused the indignation of every generous
mind in the country. On the subject of the Loyal
Address, he was anxious to say a few words before
he retired—that Address which was said to be so nu-
merously signed, and that by persons so much more
respectable than the other Freeholders of Hampshire.
He should be very glad to know how this snug Ad-
dress had got into circulation ? (Cries Ask the
Under Sher:J7) He held in his hand a letter, ad-
dressed by the Under Sheriff to a Clergyman, re-
questing him to procure signatures to the Address
among his Parishioners; and it was to be hoped that
Mr. Hollis would explain his conduct in this matter.
In the progress of the late Bill, they had been told
that there was a Public Accuser, but no person had
ever been able to find him out ; and so, also, there
was a County Michas, it seemed, though the County
had never heard of it but through the Papers. This
letter was addressed to a Clergyman, for such secrets
could only be whispered into the ears of the Clergy.
He would take this opportunity of stating, that he
venerated the Established Church, and was disposed
to respect its Clergy; but in proportion to that vene-
ration and 'respect was his indignation at seeing it
attempted to drill the Clergymen of the Church into
the tools of a vile and wicked Administration, and to'
degrade them into the trumpeters of the praise of
Ministers. The letter to which he had referred com-
menced with the following words:--.. Reverend Sir,'
I am directed to send you a copy of the County Ad-
dress r but he had the authonty of the High Sheriff 1I
for saying, that that Gentleman never gave the Us-
der Sheriff directions to send the Address in question.
He hoped. therefore, that Mr. Hollis would state to,
the Meeting who it was that directed him to set the
Clergy on the task of procuring signatures, and also
explain how he presumed to call this the Address of
the County. He could only state his conviction, that
if County Meetings were to be put down, the Con-
stitution of England would not survive them one
twelvemonth 1--(Applause). It was the privilege and
the duty of every man to express his sentiments, and
he hoped he should never, like the counter-Requisi-
tionists, be afraid to chew his face before the assem-
bled County—(Great applause). His Lordship added,
that he understood Mr. Hollis wished to address the
Meeting on the subject of the letter which had been
mentioned, and it would be but justice to hear with
patience what he had to say in explanation.
Mr. HoLus then came forward, and met with no
, very gracious reception. He denied that the Loyal
Address professed to speak the sentiments tit' the
County, for it began with the words, We, the un-
dersigned Noblemen, Gentry, and Clergy, of the
County of Hants," acc. and, therefore, could only be
fairly considered the Address of those that signed it.
He also denied that the Clergy had been improperly
applied to on this occasion, for no Clergyman, or any
other person, had been asked to procure signatures.
Mr. FLEMING, one of the County Members, came
forward, and was received with strong marks of dis-
approbation. He stated, that having seen the Requi-
sition for the purpose of petitioning Parliament, he
had come forward to receive the instructions of his
constituents ; but was sorry to say, that though he
should feel it his duty to present the Petition, he
could not conscientiously promise to support its prayer
in his place, because he conceived its object was to
procure the dismissal of the present Ministers for their
conduct with respect to the Queen. No man could
lament more than he did that proceedings had ever
been instituted against her Majesty, or feel more
deeply the stigma which they had fixed on the coun-
try. At the same time, Ministers could not justly be
blamed for the consequences of that investigation,
which was forced upon them by the arrival of the
Queen: the rumours which preceded her obliged them
to institute the inquiry, in duty to the King and Coun-
try, and in justice to the Queen herself—( Violent
hisses).—But, however the Meeting might differ from
him as to the necessity of that inquiry, there could
be but one opinion as to the leniency of the mode of
trial, and the fairness and impartiality of her Judges!
They must all admire the temper and candour evinced
by the Noble Lords of the Cabinet,—( Violent hooting:).
In comparing the conduct of Ministers and their op-
ponents, he was compelled to say, that the charge of
acting unconstitutionally came with a bad grace from
those who, in 1806, created a Secret Tribunal, and
tried and condemned the Queen without hearing her
defence—(Cries of No !no He most heartily con-
curred, however, in the wish expressed in this Peti-
tion, that some method might be found of putting
the question about the Queen to rest, and of prevent-
ing all farther discussion and agitation of it—(Gene-
sal applause).—The Honourable Member concluded
with some observations on the subject of the Loyal
Address, which, he said, he was proud to have signed.
Mr. Jaavoter, the other Member for the County,
then rose. He said be heard the Petition with great
satisfaction, and should only beg them to believe his
honest declaration, that he was ready to receive their
instructions to present and support this or any other
Petition that might be agreed to at a County Meet-
ing--(Loud cheers).
Mr. HINCESMAN spoke at considerable length in
favour of the Petition.

Mr. BARING then replied. He insisted, that, not-
withstanding the explanation of Mr. Hollis, it was
evident that the Address had been issued as the Ad-
dress of the County, though, in fact, it was only the
Address of the Pitt Club; and it was important to
consider, whether that Club should represent the
County? He complimented Mr. Fleming for man-
fully coming forward, but .considered him as. per-
fectly :mire in his admiration -of the conduct of
Ministers ui their proceedings against the Queen.
All the other friensk.a Ministers, even the warmest,

'with whom.he (Mr. Baring) had esimmunicated, had
expressed their regret that such an inquiry had ever
been commenced.
The HIGH SHERIFF then put the question on the
Petition, which was carried unanimously, and amidst
the loudest cheers: it was directed to be presented by
the County Members.
A similar Petition to the House of Lords was una•
nimously and enthusiastically carried, and directed to
be presented by Lord CARNARVON.
Thanks were then, on the motion of Mr. MARSH,
voted to Lord CARNARVON, for his exertions in re-
sisting the :.ttempts of a party to dictate to the Free-
holders of the County.
Lord CARNARVON shortly returned thanks, and
moved a vote of thanks to the HIGH SHERIFF, for his
upright and Constitutional conduct in calling the
Meeting, and for his dignified and impartial conduct
in the Chair. _

The motion was unanimously agree 3 to, and the
HIGH Salaams. returned thanks.
The Meeting then quietly dispersed at four o'clock.

BEDFORSIIIRE MEETIAG.

This Meeting wok place yesterday in the Shire-
hall, which was crowded to excess; and a more
respectable body of individuals was never seen as-
sembled in any county town, on any public occasion.
Soon after 12 ,o'clock the Hton SHERIFF, the
Duke of BEDFORD, the Marquis of TAY:STOCK, Lord
HOLLAND, Lord W. Rossatc, Lord J. RUSSELL, F.
Pyu, Esq. M. P. W. H. WHITBREAD, Esq. M. P.
S. C. WHITBREAD, Esq. M. P. C. F. PALMER, Esq.
M. P. and massy. other gentlemen of property, ap-
peared on the hustings.
The HWW &inure having taken the Chair, pro-
ceeded to open the business of the day.
The Duke of BILDFORD then came forward amidst
the unanimous plaudits of the Assembly. He had
not, he observed, often had the honour to meet the
Inhabitants and Freeholders of that County, assem-
bled on any public occasion. The last time was to
move an humble Address of Condolence to his Ma-
jesty on the demise of their late venerable and much
lamented Sovereign: and the instance preceding
that, was, to Address his present Majesty, then acting
as Prince Regent, on the death of the late Queen.
He now entertained the same true and loyal and
devoted feelings towards the Throne which he che-
rished on those occasions—(Loud and repealed dseers.)
And, though he had not to call on them to condole
with The King on the decease of a virtuous Queen
who had passed from this transitory life, yet he had
to entreat the Meeting to address the King, to ask
of him that he would restore the rights, and redress
the wrongs of a living Queen, whose character had
been assailed by the foulest, basest, and most ma-
lignant conspiracy that ever disgraced the annals of
this or of any other country—(Chores).---Her honour,
her fame, her character, which were dearer to a
woman than life itself, had been attempted to be de-
stroyed, by means the most detestable. He would
also call their attention to a series of Resolutions, in
which the Address to his Majesty was embodied, and
likewise to two Petitions, intended to be presented to
both Houses of Parliament. But before he touched
on those points, he would direct their attention to
the deep distresses under which the Country was now
labouring—distresses that were accumulating from
year to year, but which were suffered to pass un-
noticed by his Majesty's Ministers. The Prayers
and Petitions of the People had been disregarded by
them; and they had even advised his Majesty not to
attend to the complaints of his subjects—( Applause).
His Grace then proceeded with great ability and
eloquence to state his views of the present distressed
and agitated state of the country. In summing up,
" he was aware," he said, " that it had been often
alleged that it was the object of the body of men
with whorn he acted, to drive out Ministers, for the
purpose of procuring their places." This was an
imputation cast on the lovers of liberty at various
times—(Applause). But was there anything so pe-
culiarly enticing in the present state of the country
—serrounded as it was by difficulties and dangers--
that could induce any honest individual to seek for
the places of Ministers ? It had been said, and
doubtless would brir said again, that this was a mere
party question—a question between the Ministers
and their opponents. He solemnly denied the asser-
tion. When he proceeded to consider the case of the
Queen, he allowed no feelings to operate on his mind
but those of justice ; he allowed no principle to guide
his conduct, but the love of his country—(CAeen).
He did not, however, mean to disclaim party con-
nexion altogether. On the contrary, he acknow-
ledged that he was a party man. He had seen, in
the course of his life, and he had learned from his-
tory, that party had often been of use to States ;
and in a Constitution like that of England, com-
posed of King, Lords, and Commons, to prevent the
encroachment of one branch on the other, party
might be employed for the general benefit of the
State. For many years of his life he had the pride
and satisfaction of acting under that great political
leader, Mr. Fox. He had acted with that great and
illustrious man, who, though he was not permittc§
to serve his country' in power, did essentially serve it
out of power. By the energies of his mind, by the
force of his genius, by the power of his eloquence,
he had often seen that great man stem the tide of
corruption, and stop the mad career of that ambi-
tion which would have plunged the country into
anarchy and confusion—(Applause). He had the
'satisfaction of entering the all with that illustrious
person who bore the name, the virtues, and the ta-
lents, of the great man whose praises he had so
feebly pronounced—he meant' his nephew, Lord
Holland—(Cheers). That 'Noble Lord was also a
party man, and during the time he had sat in Par-
liament his voice had never been raised but in the
cause of his country, of liberty, and of humanity--
(Chesrs). He had always considered him to be a
perfect counterpart of the fine character drawn by
the Poet,
" No strobe, no hemline, deadliest shaft of adverse fate,
Can make his gen'rous bosom quite despair,
But that alone by wheels his Country falls!
Grief may to grief, in endless round succeed,
And Nature suffer when his children bleed ;
Bet still superior must that hero prove,
Whose first, last pinion, is his Country's lover
(Cheers). The fist and last object of his Noble Friend,
whether he was doomed to pass his life in or out or
power, would be to support the happiness the ho.
flour, and the glory of England ; that would be th:

sole aim and object of his political Wes
Ministers, he had no doubt, would adhere
and power as long as they possibly ,
would stick to it as long as a plank rem:
ship—as long as they could get anythin;
nuing with the wreck! They talked of
ness, and said they would nut quit the
rounded as she was by dangers. He was
to recollect that disastrous period of our
end of the American war; and he z
Lord North talked a great deal about
When he was taunted by the able Stat
opposed to him, he said—" I took the I eir
and I will not quit the vessel while she
Mr. Burke, with that powerful eloquence
tinguished all he said, and, he might add,
bitter sarcasm which was entirely his os-
ig True, it was a storm, and a storm so
bent the stately oak to the ground ; and
'the little paltry o illow that writhes and
with every blast of wind, and calls its pli
ness !" So with the Ministers cf the
they shifted with every varying wind,
'mated their pliability firmness—(Loud ,
cheering). Those Ministers would endeav,
themselves in poer by the A?
post
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knew not how to term them; they calk,
the loyal men—(Laughter). They declared
to be exclusively loyal. He knew not ,
were any' of them in the room i
he would particularly address himsei
What did tlieir loyalty consist in? Wh
up Addresses in " holes and corners."
Those Addresses served to swell the
Court Gazette ; and the courtly readers
specious compositions as speaking do
country, he dared say—(Laughter).
scription were those secretly loyal Gentl
were well 'described by a celebrated MI
" men who trade in loyalty, and lire uj
They never lost their stock.in trade; i
to a good market. ' If you asked one
you a loyal man?" he would indignai
" I am a loyal man, devoted to my K,
try ; how dare you question it?" But
the inquiry, and skid, " Are you loyal
The answer wool(' be—" Oh, no! nr
marketable commodity !"—(Match tat
,we he was, that if such a loyal man ,
more of his professions than the farmers
bade , he would give up his loyalt7
fr (Ap artse)--and sigh out, " Farewell
wel , to all my loyalty r--(4 laugh).
i
he thought, close his address better than
ing his sentiments on the ques-ion of 7
Reform. From his first entering into pu,
felt the necessity of a Reform in the Commons
of Parliament, and, every year since, that -
become more firmly rooted in his mil!"
It was a question which had occupied
of many eminent Statesmen, during th(
George 111. A writer, speaking of thi,
years ago, observed, that is Parliamentary
was the dying legacy of Lord Chatty
virgin effort of Mr. Pitt." He would
the legacy of Lord Chatham had never
and the virgin effort of his son was a
leaving behind it no traces of fecundity
His, Grace concluded by proposing
solutions, embracing the different topic
his speech; and an Address to his M;
on them. In proposing the Address,
vented to the exclusion of the Queen's
Liturgy—a circumstance on which h(
with great severity.
Mr. W. H. WHITBREAD, in a short speech,
the Resolutions and Address.
Lord HOLLAND then came forward,
the assembly in a speech equally remal
quence, argument, and feeling. He had,
signed the Requisition, becaose.he concei
country could alone be saved by a
of the voice of the People emanate..
Public Meetings. The proceedings agail
had been, for a long period, the great:.
sideration of subjects intimately connected
first interests of the country. In ore'-
interests should be considered, it was
the first instance, to put an extinguisher
on those odious proceedings. How --
done ? By the voice of the People.
to command it. He always thought
ceedings against the Queen were not
sary, but would ultimately prove useless
rious to the best interests of the
" thought so once—now be knew it"—
By tbose proceedings the Crown had .
them the People had suffered—(Applause)—Duti
many weeks previously to their commencemo••• '
discussion of the subject had occur'
of Parliament, and none of the
People could obtain a moment's
(Appkiusej—ln the course of his pui
seldom seen a public day that had gi
satisfaction. If anything could have
pleasure he derived from the appearance
of that Meeting, it was the manner "
had received his Noble Friend and relaa
had known, and that great good .
his brother, be had known from infant
He would not attempt to turn phrases
racter of his Noble Friend (the Dub
but he would say, that a better, a wr
honest man in public or private life,
any county or country in the world.
cheers front all parts of the roost).
The HIGH SHERIFF put the Resole
find then the Address to the King, all 1
dared to be carried with only two dissentient
Mr. WILTSHIRE came forward to
to both Houses of Parliament. He'
to the distressed state of the country,
that the period was not far distant wi
be in this country a Revolution or
!(Hear, hear!).—He trusted Reform w,
ternative adopted--(Greht applause`,
that the. enemies of the People would
I then a:luded to the case of the Queen,
necessity of restoring her name to the
reprobated the late proceedings in the
(language. Speaking of the evidence
,jesty, he said, that any honourable
criminal case, supported by such ,
have thrown up his brief l—(.lpp:ause).—J
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