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And yet, gentemen, he voted for their entire abolition.
plause.) After some further remarks to the same purpose,

says, -- ne wouut then say, that he would consent to no change
in those laws (the Navigation Laws) until he was satisfied that
that change would be conducive to the general good." (Hear.)
Now, gentlemen, from such statements, made day by day,
where could we find his intention of voting for the repeal of
those laws? (Hear, hear). Gentlemen, I am afraid I am weary-
ihg you—(" no;no," " plenty of time," " go on")—but

-ss --e -`"°""' '".'""'lx"""s" question is one of great importance, the point at issue being
£8,400,000, if we had a fair trade and intercourse, we also whether we were justified in supposing that we entertained the
should be employed to send there .e 8,400,000 worth of our menu:, opinion that Mr. Cardwell would ever vote for the repeal of the
factures, and the result would be, that it would leave us, in 5" Navigation Laws, or whether lie ever conveyed to us his listen-
probability, .e 4,000,000 of profit to be spent by our operatives. tion of so voting ? Why, he would not have received 100 votes
Now, gentlemen, what do we import from France? We import in Liverpool if he bad told us so. (Cheers.) He met the ship-
watches and clocks. Now, gentlemen, if there is a watch and owners, and, as he tells you at the Amphitheatre, he gave
clock maker in this building, I would ask him if he can corn- them no pledge. You shall hear what he did say, and then you
pete with the French in the'manufacture of clocks and watches, shall judge whether he gave a pledge or no. We can perfectly
where they pay no duties in France, and live at a ►much less understand a gentleman saying, "I am unfavourable to these
rate than here? (Hear, hear.) I would ask him, if paying his laws—l am opposed to their abrogation ; but though these
rates in Liverpool, his poor-rates, his Pike rates, and every are my sentiments, I decline to give a pledge ; I mean
other description of rates put upon his shoulders, if he can to go unfettered to Parliament, or my voice there will
compete with a man who imports these articles at a frivolous have no weight whatever." You would suppose that an ho.
duty 7 (Applause.) I know, gentlemen, that he cannot; and nourable man, with such sentiments, woul 1 never vote for the
there is nearly .e 200,000 worth of watches and clocks imported repeal of those laws without first acquainting his constituents,
into this country, besides an equal amount which pays no duty especially when, by that single vote, the snipping of the coun-
from being smuggled. (Laughterand applause.) Now,gentle-'try is depreciated between .e 12,000,000 and £15,000,000 sters
men, we are busily engaged in England in getting rid of a deal ling. (Hear, hear, hear.) But, to this hour, he has never told
of our surplus population, when we might employ a great por- us of any change in his opinion, nor has he ever informed us
tion of them ; and I appeal to the weeping mothers who have when the change came over bins ; and we have, therefore, a
their daughters expatriated to distant lands, when they might right to infer—and lam sorry to say it—that when giving us
be employed at home, (Applause.) Why should you, gen- this assurance, he meditated aiding the repeal of those laws.
ttemen, import from France three million pair of gloves, (Hear, hear, and a voice, "Heis a great scoundrel!" Cheers.)
and export our own women who ought to make them for you? . Gentlemen, I will not indulge in any personal remarks upon
(Applause.) Gentlemen, there is another trade, and I have no Mr. Cardwell. (Hear, hear.) I hope I have confined myself
doubt I have the honour of addressing some of the Sons of strictly within the fair limits of debate. (Hear, hear.) I have
Crispin in this hall. Gentlemen, you know also that the shoe- only brought forward his sentiments, and given eny answer to
maker have ground of complaint—and it is more especially them, in such a way, I trust, as becomes a gentleman. (Cheers.)
the complaint of the trade to which I am now calling your Then, gentlemen, I call your attention to an interview Mr.
attention—and I think you will agree with me, that the shoe- Cardwell lied with the Shipowners' Association, at which he
maker has an equal right*of complaint with the watchmaker made use of these words :
and the glovemaker, when he has to compete with Frenchmen " Now, in regard to the Navigation Laws, he did not know
sending here 800,000 pairs of bootsand boot fronts. (Applause.) whether any opinion was entertained that he had ever taken
Gentlemen, I say, unless we have that interchange of commerce any part hostile to the system of the Navigation Laws. if any.
and freedom of. trade, which we have a right to expect from body did entertain such an opinion, they might accept his as-
France—if we admit their manufactures—l say it is neither - surance that it was entirely unwarranted by any reference to
just nor right to our own people. (Loud applause.) Gentle- the past, f s there was no act or expression of his warranted a
men, have we got a miller in the building? (Cheers, and suspicion of that sort." hear, hear.) If we have, I would appeal to him. God forbid Now, gentlemen, need I say anything more after that ?(" No;
that we should advocate anythingwhich would tend to increase pitch into him," cheers and laughter.) Mr. Cardwell after-
the price of any commodity which is necessary for our nourish- wards went on to say that "he thought it would be manifestly
ment, and which should come upon every table; but, gentle- 1 unjust to remove from our shipowners their mercantile supre-
men, there is a difference between growing and manufacturing I macy without removing the restrictions to which others were
flour. (" Certainly, there is.") And I would ask the millers, if it I not subject." Well, have they done that ? No. Mr. Cardwell
is right that we should import from France 1.300,000 quarters 1 further said, at the interview with the shipowners:—of ground flour ? (Loud cries of " No, no.") I say, gentlemen, " I have stated that I don't approve of any plan for the abrOs
that the grinding of that corn ought to be done at home, be- gation of these laws." (Loud cries of "shame ;" "tar: him
cause those who send its flour now not only 'obtain a profit by and feather him." Laughter.) This, gentleman, was n an-
grinding it, but they have the privilege of increasing that profit swer tobe question from 51r. Fisher. He continued. "I state
by importing wheat ; and, moreover, they have the advantage also that I don't contemplate any change at all ; and I reserve
of keeping the bran for the purpose of feeding their own stock. to myself the right of judging of any proposal to be made. It
(Hear, hear, hear.) Now, gentlemen, I have only to repeat on shall have my best consideration.' (Laughter.) The assn.
this head, that I hope you see clearly that it must be an nu- ranee to the inhabitants of Liverpool that he did not intend to
profitable intercourse with any country with which there is not vote for the abrogation of these laws could not have been more
an equal interchange of commodities, as is the case with emphatically conveyed. (A voice: "Was that qualified?")
France, whither we export only .e 2,000,000, and take .48,000,000 Oh, yes ; I told you before that he would not give any
in return. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) It cannot be productive pledge. But I am afraid the gentleman who asks the
of, and conducive to, reciprocal advantages to the operative question did not hear what I said, therefore I will give
and mechanic in this country. (Hear, hear, hear.) Gentle- it him again. (Cheers.) I say, as the Duke of Wellington
men, I will not detain you much longer—(loud and continued said, "On this subject there is no mistake, and there shall be
cries of "Go on, go on");—but I cannot allow this opportunity no mistake." (Loud and long-continued cheerin . -
to pass by without saying'a word or two with regard to Mr. well said: " I have stated that I don't approve of any plan Card for
Cardwell's figures on shipping. (Loud cheering, and a voice the abrogation of these laws ;" surely that means that he
"Stick to him.") Yes, I will stick to him. (Vehement ap- would not vote for their abrogation—(cheers)—"and I have
plause, with a round of Kentish fire.) I will, as my friend in also stated that I don't contemplate any change at all; and I
the pit says, "stick to him," for he has deceived us once, but reserve to myself the right of judging of any proposal to be
he shall not deceive us twice. (Vehement cheering.) Now, made. It shall have my best consideration." (Hear,
gentlemen, I showed at the meeting in the Amphitheatre that hear, IrSar.) Now, I would put it to the gentleman in the
the increase in the foreign shipping to this port was 919,000, gallery whether that was not likely to convey to our minds the
and that there was a positive decrease of 2,000 tons in the Bri- belief that lie disapproved of the abrogation of the Navigation
tish shipping between the years 1849 and 1851. (Cheers.) I Laws? (The gentleman who bad asked the question replied,
need not remind you, gentlemen, that the year 1849 was the " That was a pledge decidedly.") (Cheers.) Then he went on
one in which the Navigation Laws were repealed. (Hear, hear, to say that "it could scarcely be imagined that he could be
and cheers.) Now when Mr. Cardwell on a former occasion found in hostility with his constituents, but he held that it
undressed the Liverpool electors, and solicited them for their was the duty of a member of parliament to reserve to
suffrages, he said, " I congratulate the town of Lluerpool on himself the right of free judgment." But of course you haves
the increase of its shipping;" and, gentlemen, he congratulated right to ascertain the opinion of your representative, and you
you further on the increase being mainly in the British ships. would never suppose that lie would change his opinions upon
(Loud and continued cheering.) But, gentlemen, when he certain laws, anti vote for their abrogation without letting you
comes before you now, when the foreign shipping has increased know. (Cheers.) I feel that, without these explanations which
100,000 tons, it is not with the same congratulatory terms, but I have given to you, I could not have consented to
simply by slurring over the increase of tonnage, stating its total occupy the chair this evening. (Hear, hear, hear, and
amount without specifying how much is British and how much cheers.) But if they are satisfactory to you, 1 shall be
is foreign. (Hear, hear, and cries of "shame".) Gentlemen, most proud to preside over this meeting. (Vehement applause,
lie tells you in his address, that in the year 1842, the tonnage which was renewed several times, on a stentorian voice ex-
was 5,415,000, exclusive of the ships in ballast ; and that in claiming, "Three cheers for Mr. Bramley-Moore, Esq. !")
1851 it had increased to Bmo,eoo tons. And thus you see the Gentlemen, I will not trespass further upon your time, except
placards posted on the walls of Liverpool. But, gentlemen, to make one more observation before I lake the chair. We
ought it not to have specifier! how much of that tonnage was have a nobleman now at the head of affairs, who is personally
foreign and how much British? (Cheers, and cries of "It known to many of us here, and to all of us by his excellent name
ought.") I would put it to any man connected with the ship- and character,and high office. (Cheers.) You have a nobleman,
ping of Liverpool, whether five foreign vessels in the port will gentlemen, whose only desire and wish is to promote the great
spend as much amongst the operatives and carpenters as one interests of this great empire, and to advocate the interests of
British ship? (" No, no.") Then I say this boasted, increase all classes of society. (Renewed cheering.) He is above all
in the tonnage of the shipping, so far from being a- gain, mercenary considerations; he has nothing in this world to
is a great loss to you. (Hear, hear.) As I stated, gentlemen, look forward to, or to gratify his ambition. (Hear, bear.) He
at the Amphitheatre, Spanish vessels in your port obtain .e 4 has taken the helm of affairs solely from patriotic coo-
per ton, while British vessels only get 20s. to the same places, fives; and I hope that .he will meet with a cordial
Now, gentlemen, since I made that statement I have ascer- response throughout the country. Mr. Bramley Moore re-
tained that the very same state of things exists between the seemed his seat amidst loud and long-continued cheering. He
Spaniards and the United States ; and I now lintel in my hand said, the resolutions which would be submitted to them would
an act of the American Congress, dealing with the point in be by the electors of Lime-street Ward, and the first
question. What did America do, gentlemen 7 As we have would be proposed by Mr. Morrison, of Whitechapel.
been so often referred to our Transatlantic brethren to copy (Applause.)
their example, I strongly recommend their line of proceeding Mr. MoRRISON, in coming forward, said he must claim from
in this case to be copied as soon as possible. (Applause.) There his audience more than ordinary indulgence, on two grounds,
is a difference of duty between the Spanish vessels and the the first of which was, that he was unaccustomed to address
American vessels g"ing to Cuba and other Spanish ports. public meetings, and the next was that he had scarcely yet
Well, what did they do in the United States? They said, recovered from a severe attack of inflammation ; and nothing
'' Well, this is perfectly right, and we will meet them ; the would have induced him to have come forward but the great
Spanish vessels that load in our ports shall pay, in differential importance involved in the proceedings of that meeting. Mr.
deities, to the same amount that they exact, before they take Morrison then read extensive extracts from a treatise on the
the goods on board." (Loud and continued cheering.) Such American tariff which came into operation in 1836, with the
are the terms of the Act of Congress. Now, let me point view to show the amount of protection afforded by time Ann,
oust to some who maybe ignorant upon the subject, the position rican Legislature. The resolution he proposed was :—" That
of ship-bulling in this and foreign countries. (Hear, hear.) this meeting, believing that William Forbes Mackenzie, Esq.,
When you import timber for the purpose of building ships in and Charles Turner, Esq., are eminently qualified to renr..--
Liverpool, you have to nav a there • 1,,,s ;e.,,... t...;,,, —,,:.. :—, , ' '' ' . . -

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foreign country, and brink it in a manufactured condition, then
you pay no duty at all. (" Shame," and expressions of aston-
ishtnent.) Now, I would ask if this is right, or whether it is
just to the ship-carpenter of Liverpool and of other places in
England ? (" No, no.") The ship, also, that is manufactured
in a foreign country can earn a freight before it is brought here
for sale, which is also an advantage to the foreigner that you do
not enjoy. (Hear, hear.) Now, gentlemen, to show you the
inconsistency, and the short-sighted and bad legislation of the
gentlemen who have lately been at the head of our govern—
will just point out to you that mahogany, 7,0-

iverpool in Parliament, pledges itself to use
every exertion for their return at the approaching election."
(Cheers.)

Mr. BE.NSON, who addressed the !fleeting as "Mr. Chairman,
brother freemen (hear, hear), and electors," said he had very
great pleasure in seconding the resolution just proposed, in-
asmuch as, it having been received with loud enthusiasm, he
felt satisfied the mee ting would use every energy in their power
to promote the election of the two gentlemen named. (Ap-
plause.) lie bad a still greater pleasure in doing so, inasmuch
as one of these gentlemen was of the town of Liverpool.
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other woods used in the manufacture of tables and articles of
luxury, pay no duty at all ; and is it right, then, to the ship-
building' interest, that, while all these are imported duty free,
the most important kind of timber used for shipbuilding is not
admitted without a tax ? (Loud and angry cries of " Shame.")
Now, Mr. Cardwell expressed great anxiety, when before the
Toxteth carpenters, and at other ph ices, to do all in his power
to promote the interests of the carpenters, ropernakers and
,
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(sneers.) it was some years since they had had a gentleman
to represent their interests in parliament, whom they might
call a townsman; but Mr. Turner had been honourably con-
nected with them for a great many. years, and it was on this
account particularly he felt pleasure ►n seconding the resolution.
(Cheers.) He felt sure that if these two' gentlemen were for-
tunate enough to gain the good wishes and support of the
electors, and to be returned, whatever should be brought
forward by the noble lord now at the head of the.
Government, he would receive from them every assist-
ance in promoting the good and welfare of all. (Cheers.)
He held in his hand the addresses of the candidates
whose interests they had that night met to forward. These
were true Protestant addresses—(tremendous applause)—adr
miffing of no mistake in what was set forth. (Renewed
applause.) Many attacks had been made upon Protestant
principles; l ut here they had an assurance from one gentleman
that no public grant should. be made to the Roman Catholic
Church, under whatever guise or disguise it might be brought.
(Cheers.) In the other address they had the assurance, ►hat the
writer himself being a firm and s►ncere Protestant, he was in
favour of others enjoying the same civil liberties with himself.
Therefore it was that he (the speaker) thought these gentlemen
might be entrusted with the liberties of them all. (Cheers.),
After the manly vindication of himself, which they bad heard
from their cha►rman, and the straightforward plan which he
had adopted in throwing over Mr. Cardwell—(cheers, and cries
of " and his job")—he called upon them all to give an assur-
ance to 'assist, as much as lay in their power, in the return of
the two proposed candidates. (Cheers.) _

...... ilbK, is tne nonentity; of the one-sided policy of free
trade the way to promote their interests ? (A Voice: " Why
you fetched Cardwell yourself.") Gentlemen, I thank my
friend for reminding me that I was one of the committee who
introduced Mr. Cardwell to yon; and I will now avail myself
of the opportunity of explaining to you the pains that were
taken for the purpose of ascertaining that he was right on the
all-important question of the Navigation Laws. (Hear, heir.)
If I came forward then, as one of a committee, to assist in
introducing a member to your notice, I think I am not back-
ward in appearing again before you to ask you to expel from
your confidence the man whom I before recommended.
?Vehement applause.) I am extremely obliged to my friend
for the timely hint. (Laughter, much cheering, and a voice,
" That's a good cut.") I have no sins to conceal ; and, if I
have committed any, I freely come and confess them. (Hear,
bear, and loud cheers.) Hut, gentlemen, I have little to
confess, or to he ashamed of, in any part I have taken in my
connection with Mr. Cardwell, because I now come
forward as honestly to repudiate him, as before I did to

and cries of
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After a feW words from a per Son in the body of the meeting;
who asked were they prepared to support such a political
Harlequin as Mr. Cardwell—such a political task-master—the

)tcstant Institutio

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put and carried by acc!aln

hement applause:)—and you will see that

proosed the sec resolution
this meeting hails with sa ptisfaction theformation of a
Conservative Government, with the Earl of Derby at its head,
believing,' that the stability of the throne and constitution; and
the best interests of this country, will be maintained and pro-
' Majesty's present advisers." (Loud. andlonr
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