Star.
London, England, 1827-05-22 00:00:00

daily, but the Hon. Baronet had no right-to ask gm"
from whom. He could " shew his eyes and grieve his
heart' with the number. With:respect to the other
questions ;of the Hon. Baronet, "he would adopt the
advice of the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Calveri) and not
answer one word, not that tflete were not more in the
House, who as well as himself could answer them, but
because be was desirous that they should come to the
old, the better, and more Parliamentary mode of pro.
ceeding—(Hear). They ought to know who their op
ponents were to be. If the Hon. Baronet was not the
great phenix of the oppdsitfon, he challenged him to
find his compeer whoever he might be, and at once to
bring the subject to a Motion—(Cheers).
Mr. BROUGHAM said he would recommend to the
Honourable Baronet to return to the regular and estab-
lished mode of Parliamentary discussion. It was not
in that place alone that such questions as these were
copiously administered; not only were they adminis-
tered to the House but to the country, for which per-
haps they were principally intended. It was tight to
speak of the absent with due respect; but be could not
help lamenting that the prayer they often beard so
solemnly pronounced was not as yet completely ful-
filled—that it had not yet pleased the ALMIGHTY to
endue all the Nobility with grace, wisdom, and under-
standing—(Hear.) The greater proportion, no doubt,
were so imbued—nine-tenths at least—but the residue

seemed still to want the prayers of the Church. With
respect to his Majesty's Government, he should proceed
in the course in which he. set out, and continne.notwith- .
standing all that had been said by the Hon. Barotiet, to
give them his feeble support. Until he heard it from
such high authority on the other side of the House, he
never concluded that there was any chips inconsistent
with the Constitution in persons not connected with the
Government tendering their support when -circum-
stances seemed to them to call for it. Being a friend
to the Constitution, though wholly unconnected with
the Government; he would continue to support it. He
could not help expressing his earnest desire to the Hon.
Baronet—it was the desire of the House and of the
country—that he would abandon this irregular, unpar:
liamentaty, and to a certain degree nisfair and injurious
proceeding, though he knew it was not meant so by the
Hon. Baronet—(Hear, hear)—that he would come for-
ward at once with a questiop—(Hear, hear, from S r T.
Lethbridge.) He was delighted with that cheer. His
mind was relieved by the consent it seemed to imply.
Let him name a day for his .motion. Let him at once
bring it forward, and let the Government be put to trial
by a regular distinct Parliamentary question. He
should be delighted to have an opportunity of meeting
the Honourable Baronet, and, as a supporter of
vernment, he anticipated the result with confidence and
pleasure—(Hear.) •
Mr. O'NEIL condemned the mode of proceeding
adopted by the Hon. Baronet. The opposition as now
conducted,- seemed to be either a body without a head,
or a head without a body. He heard it observed some
time back, that the opposition could be removed from
the House in four hackney-soaches. If matters went
on as they did, they might ere long be taken away in a
vie-a•wis.

The Petition being read, and the question put that it
be printed,
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE said, he should go from the
House in any way he pleased, either in a hackney-coach,
or a vis-o via. Small as the minority was in which he
might stand, he should not be deterred from doing his
duty. If he thought the Administration was formed on
principles not consistent with sound constitutional prin.
ciples, he should sot wait to be joined by others in his
opposition to it. He received an answer to one of his
questions, but he trusted the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer would say whether sr not he acquainted his col-
leagues with the overtures that was made to him ? He
must be allowed to entertain his own opinions of that
proceeding, and to ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer
again, as a public man, and a man of honour, whether
he made such communication to his colleagues ? Was it
a matter of indifference to have received an overture of
co-operation from those who for so many years had
been his decided opponents in that House?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL rose to order. The ques-
tion before the House was on a Petition, coming from
a body of Protestant Dissenters. The Petition having
been read, the Hon. Baronet took the opportunity, on
the question that it be presented, of going into a variety
of observations in reference to a -question to which no
answer could, or at least would, be given. He would
put it to the Hon. Baronet, whether it was fair to make
such statements and commentaries without bringing
forward a motion on which his statements and observa-
tions might be answered?
The SPEAKER said he should state shortly what his
understanding of the Orders of the House was. He
conceived that a Member was bound .to conform his
observations as much as he could to the subject matter
before the House. It was for the Hon. Baronet to
judge how far his observations were in connection with,
the question, and it was competent to any Hen. Mem.
ber to call upon him for an explanation as to the ie:e-
vancy of his speech.
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE said it was not his intention
to bring his observations to bear upon the Petition-1
(Hear). But it had been the uniform practice of the
House to put questions when a Petition was presented.
Sir R. WILSON said the Hon. Baronet acknow-
ledged that his observations were not intended to bear
upon the Petition. As a representative of the people,
he must prote.t against this interruption to the public
business.

Sir T. LETHBRIDOE said he wished to confotin
to the opinion of the House and of the Chair. He
could take another opportunity of expressing his senti-
ments, but it occurred to him, that it was consistent
with order to take the opportunity, when a Petition was
presented, of offering any observations that a Mem-
ber might think important. As the House and the
Chair seemed of a different opinion, he should rot per-
severs. He must, however, consider himself as having
been very hardly treated.

Mr. CANNING said it might be convenient to the
Hon. Baronet to know, and he should now solemnly re-
peat, that he would nit answer one single word relativz
to the late transactions,. unless the subject were brought
forward in the sit ipe of a motion. He must, however,
protest against th • course l u $ red by the Hon. Mem-
ber of taking aivantage of his no answer, to put an
answer into his mouth—(Hear). That the Hon. Baronet
had no right to do— (lis
The Petition was ordeleJ to be printed.
LATE WESTMINSTER MEETING.
Lord EBRINGTON ps esented a Petition from a Gen-
tleman narned4Tucker, a 11 ctos of Laws, complaini, g
that the High Bailiff of Westminster bad refused to call
a Meeting for the purpo e of addressing the King on
the subject of the new Admiuistratkon, and in comp i