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visliti .piplifbes 's also therefore, For theft lean,
many others that Ind been fisted in alit Int* 6F
tht difenffiont on this Oil, that Were contotcing it
bit miod. be thoold give bls decided tote againft It.
Mr. EbLIOT obnerved, that al:hough thil DM
had betn fo ably Ind umPly difca Ire,' in its provers
through the Honk ye: he hoped he might be allowed
to exprefs the motives ethich itidocid Mtn to tipple
in It was i meafure of a permeirect, and not bf a I
rpoeary stature; the objeas of It. as hated by the
ght Hans Gentleman who brought it itr, were to
(apply the vacancies that per Decor, and to increafe
the regular army, at the Gina time chat It was tX-
pelted to gjen us a large difpofable force: He had
'satin thicrubjea mature confide-ration, and he could
not refrain Rolla laying that he thOught it would be
found .n expettmept to fail in all thole purports for
Which it Was intended. As to the fines, and the
mode of railing them. he tonfidered them, in every
pan of view, partiel'aud opnr;ffive. If its egett on
igniter r eel ailing was oar: owl,' examined, it would
clearly appear, that the latter nut& be entirely de
arrayed by its operation; for when a sectoiting party
came into a twills, they would find all the people of
it in arms *pion them, bet-aufe they would perceive
that every man who took their bounty was a man log
to the parifh, and might fubjea it to the irnpofition of
the fine for wabt of its quota. The very mode of
granting the bounty according to this Bill, mutt ope-
rate direaly to the difcooragernent of recruiting for
the lines Whn would not enter fill into the Army
of Referee, and take his fix guineas, in addition to
the ten fbt entering the line t Thus there were fix
teen guineas to ten again( the Regular Army. This
was not the, only difadwantage refulting from this
caesium I it would have the effea likewile of impof-
ing not only penalties, but feverittes and perfecutionsi
for inilance. thE game-laws would, lie bad no doubt,
be revived in all their rigour, anti the poor man who
thould trinfgrefs them not being able to pay the fine
incurred, would be left no alternative but that of
engaging for the pariah and fubmitting to the op-
wan of the Officers. Having noticed many other
points, the Hon. Member concluded with an opinion,
that it was a melding both nestireffi ee and unjun.
Genteel MAITLAND Mt it to be his duty, as a
Menbet of Parliament, and a member of a Military
Paeans, to deliver his opinion on this &I), which
he thought would be inefficacious in a military point
of view, and nOpregye, if viewed in a civil light. Ne
agreed with an Memorable Gentleman who called
a NM and water; he was certain, however,
tit the ' .rsOf it may contend that it would
S:a.
turn out • in one rtfpea, and that was, 'in
oPm'drifig and difielaa4 the people. He highly ap-
pnoetd teethe plan • 411 by *his Right lksourat
MO Frilled (Ur, Yoke) of railing aemoo amen for
rank. Akhough this plan was objetled to by the
Mailer,
prefent ailer, yet he confidered it a good mode,
and by no roans objeaionabie; it was not the tile,
hot the abuts of the principle, which could excite an
arerfion to It I in the application of it fairly, it aug-
mented the kin, in a very greet degree. Tkeperfon
wiled' raifed 'Pea for rank, bonen a certain number
into the ferric., whillt thufe who rote by machete
did net add a main and performed merely a private
bargain. Certainly it mull be acknowledged to be 1
a mode preferable to that of levying twenty pounds
on parilb oaten, whop they (hall fail to perform the
duty. IMI Iffitkdi and which h; the bye, will be often
I iiiipialitibet. There was one confederation which
I =es; It he Houle to attend to, and that was, the
es;
&nation in which the country was placed
at pretest. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Pitt)
bad frequently, before he came into office' urged the
nettffitn oi eigernst r 7 oceeciangs for the defence of
the notantrY, and ona!iy c rnoleined of the lois of
time, whieh he thought might be aeoided ; but it was
with confideraWe apprehensions he tefiened, that the
Right Honourable Gentleman was now nosy in she
beginning of a !yawn which would remain. a long
time to be matured and perfeaed, if it was at all
predicable ; but if the plan of his Right Honours.
ble Friend (Mr. Yorke) had been adopted, he was l
certain that we thould have at present ic,ooo men'.
added to the regular force, inflead of which we were
only to hope, that at fume time or uther an augmen-
tation would take place. He did not like a puma-
aunt force, and much lets when eiefled on fo bad a
hafis as that laid down by the Right Honourable
Gentleman. He approved of the Army of Referve
land SUpplementary Militia, becaufe they were
Item-
porary force which it was necel/ary to have, in order
to meet the exigencies and apprehended dagger of
the moment. This was no radon, however, why
we fbould ellab:ils a permanent fyllern at prefent.—
He thought it much better to lay the foundation of
a baling military plan in, time of peace, when expe-
riments may be tried without danger.
Mr. OSBORNE could not agree to the objellions
made to the Bill, which, he was fuze, would be
!mind efficaeious in all its ol;jeas.
Gen. GASCOYNE did nut mean to contend, that
the rememhta nCe of long bounties could be done away
immediately, yet he approved oldie Bill, as far as it
went ; but he thought it did not glifar enough. Hay.
ing eared Gen. Maitland (the Right Hon. Colonel)
which he .repeated three times in the mida of laugh.
ter, the General role to order. The Hon. Member
then made a few obfereations in fupport of the Bill,
which, he Mss confident, would be efficacious in every
point of view.
Mr. ELLISON felt jt tobe his duty to oppofe the
Bill as onjuti..oppreffive. and unconfiitutional. He
oppofed it from a conviaion that it would be ineffi-
CIICIOO4, and diragretable to the Public. The coun-
try Was in danger ; and tome meg:fore more cliental,
and likely to be pomp' in its execution, &could be
Adopted.
Woad VANSITTART obfereed, that when fo
impoetant a part of the military force of the Colin.
try was to depend on fueh a meafure, care ought to
be taken to gourd ageintt the mikhiefs and inconve-
niences it was likely to produce. Among others, he
feared it might become nice/eel' that Government
Should fendyernans in official fituatione. into every
fubdivifion an England, to do that duty for which
at present a landed qualification was requifite on the
pea of thous who performed it without remunera-
tion. He expreffed his doubts how far any relearn
in the Maly was neer:try ; and alter a warm taco.
mitten on its valour and dikiplitic, concluded by op.
l poling the prnacinle of the Bill.
Mr. SOMERS COX obfereeda that neon a review
of foe tontine of the lan Adw.ininration. he could
not help proaouncitig upon them, that they bad nut