Star.
London, England, 1826-03-17 00:00:00

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". Tlit 'MA MELLOR 4 the EXCHEQUER said,
•.,, . Omit Oftkthe ample discussion which the subjects of
• lantiiii and promissory Notes had undergone, and-the
;6 ' ' . tuiiiiiii which he had enjoyed of expressing his
• . on.iiptieliseor, it was not his intention to detain
o',
'Rouse at any leng'h on the present occasion. He
,Ikenfessed that the more he had applied his alention to.
&On,- the 'mote ,he hid' become persuaded that the
' okonents to the new regulati,ins were without any
ground 'whereon they could rely for refusing to adopt
• t• *MI6 the ease of Scotland. He confessed that there
was* useterial difference between the cases of Ireland
acid .Illeritlitae, , end that ii was necessary to take all
' • :eivlntostsonees .Ititti consideration before they proceeded
. to logisitate. • -Patliament.was hound in fairness to listen
i• Au the espressiporr,- of the opinions of all who .weie
• - Alpiroestess iiri, dud of allowing them an opportunity of
' ''either' teisifng theit..case. or having the gieunds• of
their Complaint reisuved, if their case could nut be
prckvedr It appenea so him, therefore, that the most
pr n.fent' and effedural mode lor' all parties woold .be to
. Wow a full, -free, and sormireved consideration to be
~(10(sivea•tis the subject before a select Committee. It had
• -.14 *We , said ;Mir Refiner Committees 'which had sat
..1 pa 01 and upon the differences between
..nedGold., as well as the effects of those dif-
• fetences upon it, had not taken into consideration the
eircuoustances"of- Scotch curt ency that even the
Ctuninkiier efiti9 had sOmehovi or other overlooked
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diet branch of the Subject ; nor could it be said
thetoitraltdever undergone sufficient investigations He
agreed that they' ought not to charge those who opposed
I,l?to.lpisllckiion of the new meastibres to Scotland wi, h any
.4frrnitss in • their purposes or their arguments. until
ibepibed first of all heard and endeavoured to convince
them t•bur he must be allowed to remark, that PiAllik,
talon, lii ttealioi with this suject first of all. had begun
4 a itl) this eery case of Scotland ; for in 1765, it had re-
strained the issues of small notes, which were then in
tit culation in that country, as a Medium wholly incom.
patible with the interests of those into whose hands it
was most likely .to 'go. Undoubtedly, . though Pali*.
matt was bound in the present ease to legislate for the
general interests of the empire, it ought. to take every,.
possible precaution, consistently with its sense (.l dart
net 0' prejudice Scotland. As to Ireland, there. a-
prated to he no such strong disinclination to chit Mee-
suie sespensplated. The eittumstatiees of Ireland dif-
ifesed vostesially from those•ofing6nd or of licotiAtia.
The Parliament of fieland, it - aftet:t,-
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`"ltiVotti{i4n `.4i'ct; bad a.- ,mall."
in - that counirr. In
thought it• vocipassoy se emboli**
of the two itinadesee. Adedlirtir
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avert she Mira te!lssiart

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Ha titereffies inapp44ll4 a Moe
Istr• elite! tto afrialatiali
valve, if 3c.ll,mait trale4.4,
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to abstain frods.this irstiirt
the fle;tient lately eitserieneed
• .1 byhene mind: Theetpirienie
• committees, incleding
,had'sai already, ought to %A/.1 Y.... .......... ...--- - _
' effect woold.be, renewed agitation, depreeslon andiiim,
1. i. eve, in the affairsof the country. At least let then forbear OW
r • : interferio( With that land until they had tried the effect of the? Hoof
. .
• sure on hng)ind. Scotland hail gone on increasing in pfbelinriql
under that venom of circulation, while Ireland was conthittalC
convulsed by distress for want of a circulation. He objected tc
any further interference on the part of Government or Parliament,
• • with themsoney affairs of the country. '
• .. .10, • 'lir: K. DOUGLAS contended against the necessity
• : .""of trny alteration in the currency of Scotland. The
. - 'Present system had existed 100 years, without producing any :mi.-
,- .., fldef He tooted the Committee, when appointed, would exercise
• great condors In their enquiries, as far as respected indiiidualt,
. . • Cl*. GORDON thought the appointment ofa Com-
• . mine, threw.* doubt upon the soundness- of the system
: .to whia:b the' Ant shed et der lirmourymed the Chonedler of the
''' Zacbettee gad bieuvadidlielllPPmellimemy is thehresemnsoir..ation
• to the Sank. : •: • .-- -, ••:•• oi 4
- ' •Mr. W.• DUN D AlseratieliMprised that all hi. eounter
• " ••• men did not join hies in dial:* Government ter proposing this
Committee. The Comeithilis *as oecessry to investigate the as.
nt. roue Petitlenerninnelidies the House.
". t• 1.1 r; 'HOME DRUMMOND said that if an inttne-
-1- dig* 'Change in the current of Scotland had been.jitiei
do 14,4 - , • .
4 eased, he should in consideration of the strong opinion
figrevaleot in that-canary upon the subject, have thought
vit, his dety to oppose such a measure. But the pre,ent
versa! agiumed a shape in which he could not dissent
'ns it.. 11st did not believe that inquiry could produce any berm.
lie wee ro't 'dfsitused to speak of the advantages than Ate
',..irlevxrices.of &Oda-ad ; and fie was aware that mumeruns and isms
pcmant *Meats bad heen et:aft:red upon that 'sentry by the ll*
Ash Parliainent. .
• Mr: V. Frac; ERALD raid, that the case of Ireland
. diffured anategially lawn that of. England and. Scotland.
• These wereenLy nine Privre Banks- there, besides the
• National Bank, the security of which euuld not be
' dOtibted,hnd the Joint Stock Banks, which were con-_
dueied on a most prudent system. He was no advo-
cate for a paper twenty—not belonging to the set of Philosophers
2 tor;
vehozneir him, and whom, as a set, he abhorred : but he thought '
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Ret not be possible to procure a supply of gold adequ'ate to the
:a* Pilaocaigersole‘ of Eagiand, mod at the same time indi•-• t to'stswer the
• ti') I•loneposamof Scotland and Ireland. If she proiset shookd fall, it
„ I, „progild•inesitably bring calamity em the preprieton et Wet and incr.
(panicles:a in both countries.
pro' 'e: FOR.BES , concurred in what fell from the
tool Of bet. for Aberdeen• that the measure with re-
, tifd 0 ' land and Ireland was perfectly unnecessary,
it
.04 al ‘a ler. He thought it was quite beneath
sfe'3,lj4li.isf the House to notice anonyttious public*-
.
' ' anliklind firm WU mos*improper for Ifinistente waste the pub-
' li: tioteisi ipeaßl4 of the latebretbate of " Matadi AfologroOther."
11 c *bled to correct a statement of words attributed to him. He 1
, mune called on the people of &WIWI, to Mlle forward as thel
. lio,mioa of their currong.; but be c 11344 upon tin Menibers au
littland, that was to my, upon she people as legitimately Ms&
, sieWod in that licmae. ..
r. Alderman 'WOOD tbovslit _ft was *Os, P. that Se"'
:• .-.... a`'dbe maktuiamil_
_dim the aistfo of .4164' curfensewoa
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...petiole vote fort a Committee tow=froalunkitsetatm If
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,i)iieretliot t(ho bad justigo)ren blink be woe*
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' ffdiViag Me 'iglus a tb going haft II Cdiennitteiat alt.
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t ~telfavreilbe feet* Mons, hi eihei w,4014 be do*
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~, ill :111.1)48 sow, ..trunake i matiai est., the. HAIRY
reletioe4cf theassoneov :be Demand Cpaes
ofbliVestsvinster,"-fidris OW , Attuaterhission to view
.the mehtunteti, in Weot*ll. _ Mkt.. lie' nodermsesh
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lie annual revenoi of.tha taiSi;hrisentninounted to
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Welty thent.and .pounds, tinl.that the.indivisfuhl witti,
attended visitors tittougle Mb- Aisheyi Uinta of being.
pasd ituvof thert fund, sipg'iimunerited by aties which
be` (Mr. H.) thoughttlin public ought not to pay. That
Ilooss had.voted, and'very propetly voted, several toms
'Of moue y far the erection of masa moms inVest Minster
-Abbeys for the purpose ofperpetua6ns'anckgiving the
otottrit;Oblicity to the actions .of illustrious individoals
.n'hy hatitiodetedireat-services to the country, and he
understood that large sums of money, both public and
private. had been paid to the'Dean and Chapter for
.permission to irect the lionamentsin the Abbey. That
being the case, he 'thought those monuments ought to
be open to the
.public for inspection. • From a coact-
pondence whithhattbeen pot into his hands, it appeared
that the individuals appointed to superintend the collec-
tion of the money paid for admission, were the minor
Canons, among wbpm the money villected was divided.
Ile believed that about fifty sears ago the admission fee
to the Abbey was not more than a fenny or twopence,
the sum paid far admiision to visit St. Paul's. a sum
quite sufficient to keep out that desctiption of persons
who would be most likely .to do injury to the monuments.
His object was to ascertain Whether or not the Dean and
Chapter had a right to demand money from the public
for permission to view the monuments erected at the
Public expense? He had thought elle Dean and Chapter
would, by attending to the strong. esptession of public,
opinion in that House, and out of doors, upon the subject,
have prevented the necessity of this motion. If it should
turn out that the fonds of the Dean and Chapter were
not sufficient without the assistance of the admission
fees to support their establishment, and to clean those
statues, some arrangement might take place between
them and the public ; but if it should turn out that that
House or his Majesty had no power to compel the Dean and
Chapter to open the memements to the inspection of the public, be
atoilld protest against granting a dagie shilling of the public money
for permission to erect those mosamenta The Hon. Member
concluded by moving, u for an mount of the sums of money
charged by the Dean and Chapter of Westminster to the public for
admission to view she public monuments in Westminster Abbey,
specifying the amount paid by each visitor, the total amount re.
'rived each year; and bow applied."
Mr. Secretary PEEL said, it was not his intention to
oppose the motion by any captious objections, when he
recollected that those Monuments had been erected at
the public expense • but, at the same time he thought
it right to put the House in possession of the facts of
the case. Theilon.Csesthman was mistaken in saying
that Abe Dean and Chapter ought, of right, to admit the
fPublic into the Abbey. He did not think the House
bad any :tiara power aver . the Dean and Chapter of
`We4fniiwer- Abbey than over the Dean and Chapter
of St.-Paol'i, or any Cathedral ; but, possibly, 0111
keg Pf the moatuneuts having been erected at the peblin,l
- —.Le:. would make some difference. His opinion,
rights of that body could be
Act Of P.siiiamen;. The Hrn.
. are when he st terd„.that the,
admission fee war of modern date, and,
ltitil-aithiti the last
.fitty tears.—.
eltoiise, tbat from .the earliest
;-rolloiliosi of 1745, -a fee had
,pea • srarchlrg the record., it
'• the nfllie of Neeper'of the
Ilne life. by patent, and .that:
lag good tiehavi.,ur en; a after!
-a patent pot into his band.., it
_......, .4"llitr 1613, Sir Robert Swift and
ycliik`'were`Appointed Keepers of the 'Nlotsu-
Uleis at present demanded were divided

petsons composing the Cherie and the Miner:
he-Minor Canons seem Clergymen, whew
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atftindatiee Was 'requirid for 'ant' months in the year.
and ilifii ioitioa of those fees, Which did net . crowd
annually 701;.each, added to their salaries, did not make
their incomes more than 12C1., per annum. He' must
sty,that the Dean and Chapter, out of deference to the.
opinions expressed in that House, had reduced the ad•
missive fee from 2s. to ls. Sd. which •was no more than
was considered necessai y for affording some allowance
to the Minor Canons for preserving the monuments.
The [lon. Member was also mistaken in stating, that
the Dean and Chapter had not applied any of the fond,
for the eepa;rs of the Abbey. The fact was, that during
the last twenty-five.years,asuM of 55,6271. h ad been paid
out of 4heir.funals for tbexepairs 'of. the Abbey, making
on an average, during that period, the annursi.sain or
1 2,1451. and, daring the last twelve years, the sem of
'40,0001. had been expended in' repairs. •making an a•••
avid average, during that period, 45,3001. Tide fact skewed, on
the part 4 the l.lcan and Chapter, disposhion to provide liberally
for the repiiri of dial titagnidcent edifice. The Dean and Chapter
mighi he in error in tisinklitg, that by throwing the Abbey open ip
the piddle the 'monuments would- be injured, but he was satisfied
that thelieted. from 'Lira fide opinion,, that sock mould be the.
consequence! The lion. Gsiiiietnan coWaded by declaring that
he would not oppose the inutinti.
. Mr:HODIIOUS I.: said, 'that twenty years ago money. wet Mid-
at the grate on entranteur the interior of the Abbey, but not at the
outer Auer which.offarded gratuitous admission to Poets' Carnet:
He wished' an arrangement could be made, with the Dean and
Chapter to secure free admission to the public under the superin.
dance of a guirilfan employed to prevent injury to the monuments.
Mr. W. SMITH 'Tokyo! favour of the proposed enquiry.
Mr. Secretary PERT, observed that the public did not—as was
stated by the lionosireble Member fur Aberdeen pay for the moon.
meats. Stub private individuals indeed as pleased to erect mem—
menu paid for the space Which they occupied, and only promote. •
Mr. SIMMS observed upon the diferente which misted between
the -mode of 'Andel'!" alsoniansents here and in foreign countries.
,In e lattersom, admissions wereaiwaye gretuitoste.
r..llAßwleNreGaiwsn:;ls
opt,:
irlectlhe
puybuwee.llankdnetwherethfoure.Csatishowlie
In"
nu
. nat.artilisaromturiiianos tot
.bewbet she the
easp c:steenfor
ifosefenislwusouionidcomvtimasenood..
war
h as asserted that the Dean and Chapter had • property imika
competency to refuse admission to public worship.
Mr. Secretary PEEL said that the Church was open tbrivs SiMer
a day for public worship. and on those Occasions, they (sold WI
elude no person whatsoester; . . . .4 ; 1. 's'i
Mr. Alderman WOOD spoke in support of the modem. i •• r
After a few words (rem Mt. Heist and Mr. H. Otutsy, the
motion was agreed to.
tftOT.LTY TO Alllm AIL. '
Mr. MARTIN moved thomeowhowleng of the C.roelersie4sdr
mats' Bill. . • ~nor... - ,
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The SOLI CITOR-GENERAtolthesed to the second Maki;
Mr. MARTIN reiterated his former sentintents npi,rt
the subject, and tiiid, he would denionstrate ibis titiqty,
of the enactment lie 060E4' The Attorney-Oeuerat,
was, he comiderecr,--boand 'to 'support the Bill, as it was
a transcript from tho original. litill,.aa amended by bin.
He hat OW Bill to Sheet, aritb.th• pencil•markg •of the
Atlernevaettevel struck throtigh :the .oiljettionable
words. • Hit {Mr. Martin's) object was, 1M prammitsa
had beta. in some instances eau, toplace *at faiftlifidl
irsiiia% tho sing, upon the utile-11465t *MI of
domestic animals. On a former Dill, Out at lit J.

3; 4 tendatible 6f"thi Anhui servants
tlas anct;gtilletatsile and is the taffeta Calcagtat dm tied
4. Wilatarliblilll they herd awes la
si ro 061 WWl* gift ant meiiistett • that theta bad'atrac ezitlehdet
INCe•Rity tor the establishment at a College like that's gentles.,
• 114"Tv14)111P Vivet egnsatell ri g"litrir hado
reel: Vitt .
' -4 • grarliatl ;totlir
twat, Whoa 441tr_blit • h; be did sat swan to Jen, that it

'eland, in J 799., tyro years.fterthie *spew; would make sei.
I suspended ibe issue of fltin'eatill 119wever, rutctaillat!. Ti.
In ISO., the British ,P.srliarheist 4%44 oat ity c
soshoilateihorreselatioes of the turiAufr Sletither• .I.lo,elta ins lc
itothirtr ibiltbd old* itilliteot thaw &nuns!, of the adatioion
begged 40' Mk Noble"' Nt the Pr43eitr* that Mike I,akili'utiti
II Guar all further remark, bas, pArtjeu- „ . „:
I soplui• *llk% slight lead to ittitatiop.,or 'Lie • coe44 •:ei nsirts, u..e
it Hlowiebr exciting angryJgWoo, the.
Oaf the htutrestoot an pollee *tea deetaitiem„
*s
k a Mod Coaunittre be appolatod.zei: votiv,,,ityskia Itintr7tl
loths' of Pianism" Setv•e-uots
Prl/0044 MINI re report Ilteir 'piston; ru, . tt, . wut.,
esprgheacr of an akerados Um htirs,ro: ijp jpge,m9ll-:grittt#4l di+
tbeaostoestisio. Peons a
it thought it wantd be much Wei, appraretthatlin Meths
irstiirt; übich could only add to gjimotrwilitk.svetttrpc
tperienced and still lingering irs-the e(4410,:t.,4 glees 4 prier
operience of the ()pet atiool of tfl#o' swept the persons comp
:ng the bullirn coutrOklees
.vitt Comm -The Minor Car
:ht to convince them that. the sifirridssiew cuss cirronirid