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of Brunswick, but he also looked to the in-
' and the happinak of the People. He cos-
. what the finances of the country would allow
paid in taxation—{hear, hear.)—And who, after
it the late discussions on the Leather Tax,
dare to say that the present period *as not a
Infortunate one to apply for fresh provisions?
CUItWEN trusted that the House would not
called upon to vote one single shilling, till after
Chancellor of the Exchequer had laid before it a
detailed statement of the Supplies, and Ways and

of the year.
BRAND could see no reason why the Noble
_ should not mention the amount of the grants
proposed.
' CASTLEREAGH thought that it would be
, as well as unsatisfactory to the House, to
the sums proposed, without being able to enter
' the requisite details and explanations.
_ LASCELLES said that he was one of those
had attended the Meeting alluded to during the
part of the discussion. He thought he should
ake too much upon himself if he stated that
had transpired there had not met with the sa-
tisfaction of several others besides himself—(Load
cheering from the Opposition.)—}le would not say
at present, but-he would repeat, that in what
' mentioned, he had not stated his own feel-

'alone.
LYTTLETON wished to know whether the
propositions to be submitted to the House included
ire individuals than were anenticiaeci in the Mes-

sage?—(Hear, hear.) •
Lord C ASTLEREAGII declined giving an aisles.
- BENNET asked whether his Majesty's Minis-
Al not communicated to their Select Committee
they intended to pfopose 19,000/. in addition
•to one of the Royal Dukes, besides 19,0001.
, and 12,0001. a-year to each of the others?
After a few observations from Sir C. MoNciE and
CALCUAFT, no answer having been returned, the
was agreed to.
Lord CASTLEREAGH then moved an Address
Prince Regent, thanking his Royal Highness
most gracious Message respecting .the inten-
Carriages of his Royal Highness the Duke of
tce with the Princess of Saxe Meiningen, and
)yal Highness the Duke of Cambridge with the
Ince% of Hesse: expressing the entire satisfaction
House at the prospect of alliances with Pro-
Princesses of such illustrious Houses, and as-
his Royal Highness of its attachment and
4iness to make the provisions required, with a due
:gard to the importance of any measure which
tend to secure the Succession to the Crown in
,ajesty's Illustrious House.
.4 STANLEY wished to know, whether there
any instance in which the votes of the House had
extended to individuals who had not been men-
. in the Royal Message ?
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that the Address
t he had proposed merely expressed the satisfacs
of the House at the communication which it had,
ved, without pledging it to countenance any
t which might be brought forward subsequentlt.
nild remain open to the House to vote them oe
as it would think proper.
BROUGHAM did not yield to the Noble
in' affection towards the House on the Throne.
he would no: on that account neglect histduty
el people. The Address plelged the House .to
provisions with a due regard to the importsMte
ich measures as might tend to secure the Swats-
to the Throne, but without a word respecting
regard due to the state of the people. He there-
should propose to introduce the following words
the Address :—" And with a due regard to the
resent butthened state of the people of this country."
Lord CASTLEREAGH did not think the amend-
necessary. It would seem to imply that there
an indisposition on the part of the Crown to at-
to the wants and burthens of the people.
GILBERT HEATHCOTE briefly supported
Amendment.
Ir. TIERNEY contended that the Amendment
aid not pledge any Member to any particular line
conduct in the discussion of to-morrow. The
souse knew that a meeting of Members had been
;ailed by Ministers; that to this meeting they had
stated what they intended to propose to-morrow;
- the House also knew, from the best authority,
these propositions had been considered by seve-
as unfit to be entertained. Under such suspicious
tmstances should not the House take at least one
lard against committing itself too far?
The Gallery was then cleared for a division, but
ng before a division actually took place, an interest.
,g discussion followed, of which the following, we
-alerstand, is the substance :J
The Honourable Mr. SOMERS COCKS expressed
extreme anxiety to explain the reason why he did
vote for the Honourable Member (Mr. Brougham's)
iendment. Viewing it as pledging the Haase to
principle of economy, he did not object to it on
,t ground. On the contrary, when the proposed
Lowance came to be discussed, he should shew by.
vote that he was as warm a friend to tbnprineiple
any man ; but he was averse to departing from the
;ual mode of proceeding in such Addresses, which
ight be liable to misconstruction.
Mr. BROUGHAM said he was desirous of re-
moving the false impression under which the Ho-
nourable Gentleman appeared to labour : when he
thought that it signified nothing to the successful op-
position of the proposed measure, whether the vote
was given in this or in a future stage. He (Mr.
Brougham) pressed his Amendment for the very pur-
pose of deterring Ministers, M the earliest possible
stage, from going on with such a measure; and he,
was ccmficifin that the Amendment, if carried, would
.ave the most salutary consequences, as well to the
interests of the country, as to the stability of the
Government, by putting an end at once to a propo-
sition fraught with the very worst consequences to both.
Mr. LEE KECK could not avoid declaring the
Jurse which he felt himself bound to adopt. Dik
approving highly of the proposition made at the
Meeting at Lord Liverpool's, he should decidedly
oppose it; and, though he wished the Amendment
had not been moved, still he felt he had no choice;
but must give it also' his support in the terms in
which it was couched.
Mr. PLUNKETV wished that his Hon. Friend
pondconsent to vrithdraw the Amendment. He en-
tirelircoaturred in opinion with him, and when the

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