Star.
London, England, 1816-04-02 00:00:00

• member would have ventured toluake only except.
i'e.that Honourable Gentleman—it was so flagrantly
in° „ the !acts which had been men:
e, in the disco -e-s • lat. tears. .The exchange
late eel)
of the n2ll- but it had been at ocher times 25 pet
ant again•t it.
The proposed Vote of £43,864 for the Navy Po
osce having been read,
Mr. J. ht R TIN moved, as an amendment, are.
ductiou of the vote of £€7ooo, on account of an item
to that amoont for contingencies, of which no parte-
aims had hems given.
sir G. WARREN DER. said; that the particulars
moul,l be given to nprrow, and if the Hun. Gentle-
man was then diss tisfied, he might object to it on
the Report.—.llw Committee then divided—For the
Amendment 57—Against it Is3—Majority 96.
upon our re-admissii,n to the Gallery we found
the Committee in conversation with regard to the se.
turities of persons engaged by the Viet's:tiling-Office.
Mr BARING asserted, that very few of the secu-
rities were.ge. d ; that ut of 400 persons employed,
40 had not v.tkci security.
Mr. CROKER questioned this statement, but pro-
mied to inquire jot', the subject.
Sir J. NEW expressed a hope that no Mem-
bers af that house would be found to have been en-
gaged in contracts, as on former occasions, when the
securities were lost which, pledged the contractors.—
At least, such was.the statement made when the goes-
sjenwasbrought under theconsideration of that House.
Mr. CRO K ER premised to inquire upon the sub-
ject alluded to by the Honourable Baronet.
Mr. TIE R NEY again adverted to the appointment
dthe Commissioner (Conyngham) at Woolwich, and
tle expenses connected with it.
Sir G. WARRENDER observed, that this ap.
pointment was made originally by the Administra.'
ties of 1806, and that appointment it was necessary
tocominue for the care of the naval stores entrusted to
his superintendance at both Woolwich and Deptford.
Mr. BARING said, that there was an apparent
esters of 440,000 on this charge, which certainly re-
risked explanation. In 1813 the men were victualled
at Is. a man ; but by these estimates they are charged
at is. 6d. a maw, so that the excess of this was
‘40,9146 over that of the preceding year : and yet the
'Fashions of every kind were so much cheaper that
Mere should be a diminution of one half instead of
au increase of one half.
Mr. CKOKER thought this a case requiring ex.
pkutton, and capable of being fully explained. The
istimates of the former years were wrong, and would
art meet with the exigencies of the service. The
Admiralty had now brought the proper Estimates
fully before the House. For sixty-two years before
11:98, there was no difference in the Estimates in this
respect; but Mr. Pitt then made the Estimitet. Ic cor-
rected to what they ought really to tie stated at. In
16( 6, the Harbour Estimate was at Is. and Is. 4d.
white the Sea Estimate was raised to 2s. id. per dion.
But now the Admiralty had made out a tninote and
• genuine Estimate, such as should have been produced
to 181'6. at present the sea victualling was Is. Bd.
and that of the harbour was Is. tid. a man per di.m.
Mr. BARING said, Ile was willing to ade.it that
tl:e espial ition of tie Honourable Secretary was a
satisfactory one; but still he thought the manner in
which the matter was managed teas a slovenly one.
After some further observations trout MI. CituKER,
Mr. BARING, Sir G. Hove, Sir J. Nv.vponT, and Sir
J. YOakat, the question was car Heel.
._Up n the item, that AC1,179,84.1. 7s. Cod. he grant-
ed to his Majesty for Hait.pa), Superannu :lions,
Allowances, l'eusions, &c. a c nversation ensued
between Admital IVIARKHAU, Mr. CHOICan, and Sir
G. spectibsf u e differencns of the two set.
rites, Admiral Mum-mu contending that the Navy
eat ant ppressed s<rvice compared to the Army,
with tesFect to the system of haltpay, albwances,
A king conversation took place between Mr. Cite,
Ha, Mr; ISLACIIFoUD, and Mr. Fumes, the last lei
whim clanged the Lords of the Admiralty, and even
the barony, with ref using access to naval . Of..cers,
Who ni4ilit aid) to see them. l'his sas positively
denied by die SEC/tETAIIY, by Mr. BLACHFOuD, Sir
G. Waratexueit, and other Members, who deprecated
the anxiety Mr. boares shewed to trouble the House
with ratty imaginary grievance which he heard, and
which was principally founded on anonymous letters.
The Resolution was then agreed to, as were the
Resolutions relative to the Superannumions, the Build.
LI; aolL patrior, ships of War, the '1 ranspnrt Office; the Trans-
/al Sask.-, the :itts and Wounded Seamen, the Prisoners of
tke Superannuated Clerks of the transport 13,41 rd.
lb, House then resumed, and the Report was ordered to be
kw* vp Ikea day. ,
Mr. 14000515 brought Up the Report of the ...osomittee of !try to today 12,4, Ikv agliolatious which were agreed to.
Ike trher ("Wog uf the Day were then disposed and at
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