Star.
London, England, 1803-07-22 00:00:00

GLASGOW TRiATIIi.

The Earl of Rosstr at moved the feeood reading of this Bill, and.
The LORD CIIASICILLoiIi remarked upon the general wording
of one of the Clanks in the BM, which, in a Waddled moaner, pee
to the Proprietors all their rights, benefits, advantages. sod lat-
eens, that ever had been enjoyediry Proprietors of Theatres from
the bethinks( of them. He Laid, he did sot mean to oppafe the fe-
coad read 'mg, but he hoped care would be taken in the Committee
to limit and Ss the number of Proprietors, fo as to dee:nabs who
the real Proprietor were, bocalife be knew Theatres, the proprie-
torthip of which had been fen divided and fobdivided into minute
portions, that k was dales& to &floe who the Proprietors
were.
The Earl of Rossar it mode a fort reply: 'The Bill was then
read a fee end time, and committed for tootorrow.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
A Mersge from the Lords Rated their Lodildpe ail nt to the
Grenada Loan Amendment Bill.
The Clergy MIRA& Amendment Bill, and the Chatham Chea
Regulation Bill, were read a third time and pallid.
The Prize Captors' Itebef Bill was read a kmod dme. and cone.
mined for to-ntormw.
Ordered, on the modem of Mr. VA Slit , that the Hook
thould to-morrow rolohe itfelf into a Committee to confider La
much of the Colleens Coofoildatko BID as mantes to the thly on
Lissom Greg* imported; and it was ordered, that it he an In-
Station to the Paid Committee to mauler fo much of the Laid Ad
as relates to tobacco (tooted, to oblige exporters of &A to deli-
ver a copy of the Cachet =oiling Serowe on board ; alto to cm
'Ado the importation of Cotton Wool from New Oricano and the
Welters: States of America.
The.Woufe refoired into a Commkto on the fevers! Adts rela-
tive to the crealon of Light lioules on the Northern Coalta of
Scotland.
On the motion of Eir Wu P .a R doled= was adopted
that it was expedient to (rod a mew Light-Hook on the Bell Rock
to Scotland, and that 'gels poillof
_die fame &odd be fohrtertqt:
the payment did. per top. Ilse Honk reßimod, and the o
•
was ordered to be brorght up ormarrow.
Mr. 114111 AN (an Indo Member) aateatd, that there be laid be-
fore the Hook au account of the meaner in which the form Of
Soo ono*. granted by the Taft -Parlisment of Ireland for promoting
the Intend Navigation of that country, had been difpc444l4,.
Gerttil
Mr. Co a Iv Obkrott, that it was the Intention of the Lord Limo
unapt of Ireland to lay before the Houk the Mica Isifoination se
the fobjed &Boded to in the Ham. Ocatkruaa's ;nodal*.
The Habeas Dopes EzteplAs DYI was read a fccand slam To
be emosidtted to-zorrow.
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PROPERTY TRY.
The Hoare refAved i clet into a Committee on the Property Tax
BiLL
The CIIANCKLLOR of the Pee9:o2lra then propoL•cl tome new
Clanks, the ditcuflion loon which he wilbed for the prefent to de-
fer. Re was &Ikons tWa they 'night be received pry forma, and
perhaps on Monday neat they eight be again confidered. and de-
bated on the report of the BiiL The eludes were then agreed to;
and the Haute being returned, the Bill was ordered :o be taken in-
to further couaderation tcnntorrow.

VOLUNTEER CORPS.
On the queftion for committing the Volunteer Corps Bills It was
ordered. OD the Motion of Mr. Onsessr, that it be an inlmEtion
to the Committee to receive a chat to fubjeel ferjeants, drum-
mers, trumpetem, Ste. in Volunteer Corps in Ireland to Martial
Law.
In the Committee on the BiD, the SEMI [XXIV at WAR prowled
fonae Chula ; one of which was, that N'olunteers amulet, cafe of
invanon, be compelled to march where they Oswald be ordered;
and another was,for fettling the rank of the Officem—Thefc were
agreed to.—Tbe Bill was ordered to be reported to-morrow.
BONDING AND WAREHOUSING GOODS.
On the motion of the CHANCLLLOR of the Exeuxemga, an or-
der was made for the Houfe to refolic igen' into a Commits to-
morrow, to confider of fo muclt of his Majefty'a Speech as relates
to the accommodation of Merchants. The Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer then gave notice, that be would to-morrow, In the faid
Committee, propofe the fyftem of warthoufing and bonding of
goods; and he would make a motion at four o'clock, before the
other public boanefs was gone Into.

PRIhCli OE ORANCII.
Lord HAWK/SDI:MY appeared at the bar, and pre-
rented the following mettage from his Majetty, which
was read by the Speaker :

GEORGE IL •
His Majelty having taken Into his 00d4adon the Situation of
the illuftrious Houk of Orange, the bonds of alliance and aantty"
which fubM between his Majcity and that Houfc, the imposts*
folders which have been rendered by them to this country on 'to
many oecallons,and the hares which they Whined in the con& of
the left war, recommends thefe eircondtances to the fetions atten-
tion of the Houfe of Commons; and his Majc ty relies on thojuf-
dee and liberality of this Houk, to enable him to snake fuck pecu-
niary allowances to this illuarions Family, 'as may appear to be
warranted by a confideration of their prefent Situation, and of their
claims on the genenfity of this country. G A.
The Mellige being read! Lord Hawnasau ay gait
notice that a propofition would be fubmitted to the
Houk, in corfequence of this bleffage, op Monday
next.
Ordered, on motion, that the Madge fhotild by
'referred to the CoMmittee of Supply.

COTTON W[ BILL.

Oo the motion Mat the Report tithe Committee on the Cotton
Weavers Bill thould be farther mobile:74
The CMANC LLLLL elite Radicalize rote, and Rated the in.
convenience of proceeding upon the fobjed this evening, in thee- .
qua.ce of the important imam& which flood fir &MI" at the
tame time be exprelltd his wilh that the quake Ilmatid be deter.
mimed in the murk tithe pretent &glom He tbarefoki moved,
that this order amid be axed for Monday neat.
LOID AIIHILILST'S FAMILY GIANT,
The Houfe refolved into a Committee, to confider
his Majefty's Meffage refpefting the commutation to
the family of Lord Amberft, for the grant of land ,
formerly made to that gallant Offi i cer n Canada, and
the proceedings of Counfel upon this quettion were i
referred to the Committee.
The Csancassoa of the Excitskyaa role, and
raid that the propofition he meant to fubmit, was fug-
gelled by his Majefty's gracious MelTage, and arofe
out of the difficulties and °blinks which offered in
the way of the execution of his Majefty's kind inten-
tion towards the family of this gallant Officer' to
whom, in conjunftion with the justly celebrated Ge-
neral Wolfe, the annexation of Canada to this coun-
try was to be attributed. The Right Hon. Gentle-
man went at large into the circumftances of the grant
to Lord Amherft, which included one million of
acres, an extent of land too much for any individual
to poffefs, even upon the contingent increafe of its
value, and after dwelling upon the merits of the late
Lord Amherft, the moderation of the prefent Lord—
at wbofe requeft he declared the prefent meafure was
knot props:Ad—he called the attention of the Com-
mittee to the length of time fincc this grant had been
made, not lets than 40 years, and the local circum-
Ainces which rendered the grant itrelf unproduelive.
He concluded with moving, that it be the opinion
of the Committee that an annual rum of soool. be
granted so bye Majefty, out of the confolidated fund,
the grant to commence on the sth of July 1803, to
enable his Majefty to make a commutation to the
family of the late Lord Amherft, for a grant of land
in Canada, given tO.the Laid Nobleman for and in
confideration of his eminent fervices in that province.
Mr. Coot LLLLL bore teftithony to the extraordi-
nary Cervices and amiable and difinterefted charaller
of the late Lord Amherft • but with refpe& to the
preCent meafure, fuggefted whether it would pot be
better to make the propofed allowance to 'the repre-
tentative of that Noble Lord rather out of the lands
in Canada, than out of the Confolidated Fund. 'The
principle of the compenfation he admitted to be fair;
hitt ,he re retted that it was not extended to many
other perlbns who had merited reward, among whom
were tonne whom he knew, and who ferved in the
fame campaign with the Noble Lord. He indeed
had reafon to think that he himfelf was entitled to
Come compenfation for particular Cervices at a former
period, nor would he be. Co model as not to prefer his
claim if be thought his application would have been
attended to.
Mr. Carmine; fupported the motion, thinking that
as the feveral grounds Rated by 'the Hon. Moyer
were not difputed. the only queftion was as to the
mode of paying the compenfation ; andit appeared
to him much more convenient to pay it from the Con-
folidated Fund than to call upon the reprelinitative
of the late Lord Amherft to become the public itc-
countant, according to the terms of the original grant,
for fuch of the produce of the land in Canada as
Would exceed 24001. a year.
Mr. CouITINAY vindicated his former arguments.
The Coascastoa of the Excitscur ea (hewed that,
if this grant were made from Canada, the whole re-
venue of which was applied to the expence of the
Civil Government, any furplus which -might be
wanted for that Government, in confequence of that
grant, muft be fupplied from the confolidated fund.
The Right Hon. Gentleman maintained that the
commutation propofcd would be ultimately ufeful to
the public, as the value of the land was very likely to
rife, and concluded with Rating, that the cafe of the
Officers alluded to by the Hon.. Gentleman Rtould be
enquired into. •
Sir WILLIAM Dotaan (poke in favour of the ma
tion, and of the propriety of in every inftance fop-
porting the dignity of the Peerage by an adequate
revenue.
Cdr. Cot/ironer expected a wins, that as it was
pretended this laud would be more than a composts,,

t of to the public for the propoTed grant, tome pt, .
vi ion fhould be introduced in the Bill to prevent the
grant of thole lands to fome other perfons.
To this fuggellion no anfwer was made ; the Houle
refumed, and the report was ordered to be received
to.motrow•.

TNII oirsems OP' Tilt COUNTRY.

The SECRETARY at WAR moved the further con&
deration in Committee of the Report of the Bill for
the General Defence of the Country.
The Marquis of TITCHESISD role and requefied the
indolgence of the Houfe while he took the liberty of
alluding to foam obfervations which be underflood
had been made by the Right Hon: Gentleman who
had jull fat down, on a former evening, 'relative to
the officers and others concerned in railing the militia
for the counties of MideUefex and Surrey. lt was
mentioned on the occafion he alluded to, and, as he
was told, in pretty thong terms, that the deficiency
in thole counties with refped to the militia and the
army of referee proceeded from the mifcondud re-
ferred to, although the fat was, that it arofe in both
inflances from the extreme difficulty which occurred
in finding the men balloted for in this great town
and its immediate vicinity. The difficulty wis
.in.
deed, fo well known that, previous to the enaalent
of the loft Militia Bill, be took occafion to cenitnu-
nicate his opinion to'the Right Hon. Gentleman, that
the general militia laws were not applicable to thofe
particular counties, and be regretted that fometising
had not been adopted accordingly, as it might have
prevedted the eomplaidr of the Righl Hon. Gentle.
man, which applied to a'qearter where, he was per.
fowled, it was quite undefwv. ed. He therefore called
upon the Right Hon. Gentleman to Rate the grounds
upon which be made his allufion upon a former even.
ing, in order that an inveftigation might take Oleg.
and that meafures mould be taken to Of ;ace any
perfon who Ihould appear to be guiltT.
upon the Right Hon. Gentleman for this explanations
is order to (*tidy the feelings of Gentlemen on wbom
be was fuppofed to have feverely refleded, and tci do
juftice to the public, to whom there Gentlemen bad.
for the moil part, gratuitoully devoted their (civics!.
-If chafe relledions applied, to himfelf alone, the noble
Lord declared that he would have taken nb Dinka or
them. _ _

The SICRITART at WAR exprelkd his concern that
his obfervations, to which' the Noble Lord alluded,
thould have been fo much mifttaderttood—obferva•
Lions in the enurfe of 'thick be meant to convey no
•refleftion whatever on the Noble Lord or the Gentle.,
men he referred to. He had certainly been informed
of tome circumßances refpeding the railing of the
Militia in the counties asentionedby the Noble Lord,
which fatisfied,his mind that the anal deficiency was
owing to mifmanagement ; not only that, but_ tha,t
tome frauds were conunittedL He did riot Will to
guilt on any fee of men, bat fuppofed that the fyßena
mutl be bad, and required alteration: He admitted
that the neceffity of fuch alteration was mentioned
to him by the Noble Lorit previous to the paling of
Lb; 14 Militia AO, but he thoright differently upon
grounds in which be now coefc&d himfelf millaken
yet he did not feel that belonged to his department
as Secretary at War to provide a remedy for the par.
titular defefts of the fytlem which prevailed in the
counties of Surrey Ind Middlefes ; but if the Noble
Lord and the Gentlemen immediately conneilled with
thole counties would bring forward any meafure for
that pnrpofe the Honfe would, no doubt, give it itt
' attentive ccmfideration. Recurring to the principal!
objtilt of the Noble Lord's Addrefr, he felt acquitted
in his awn mind of any drfirt to throw out the im-
putation which the Noble Lord teemed to fuppofer
and be hoped the 'Houle acquitted him alto.
The Marquis of Tircarmo Paid he for biatfelf
accepted the explanation of the Right Honourable
Gentleman as quite fatisfaftory, and had no doubt it
would be equally fo to the Lieutenants and Deputies,
fcc. of the counties alluded to.
The Houle then refolved itfelfinto the Committee,
in which a variety of clothes were introduced7s
Among others was a clan& for exempting the Judges
of England and Scotland from the.trpaaticit of th
Aft. •
Notice fervid on (errant', or any of •the family,
was made fufficient by another claufe.
Another Rated that a perfon nbrelaing
from a parith in which he was liable to be enr
Mould, on producing a certificate of his -ferric! in
another diltria, be Tree& from all penalties which
would otberwife attach to him for fuch abfenie.-
The Secairaer at Waa prophet! a clank to thti,.
effelt, that the pedous comprised in the firer clar,s, •
who engaged to (trot as volunteers, should be bound•
to march sa cafe of invallon, and that all perms
comprised in the other thief should ream, and
continue so .esarcife 10 the panes till further orders.
—This elaufe was agreed to. '
The nest clatife was, that if his klajetty ordered
out any part of the fubliqUent 'ciao, that it thould
be chofen by ballot.
Mr. W. Sorra Aid, it would be more advantep
geous to have the ballot before hand, than it the
znosnent when the men might be wanted.
Mr. PITT fuggelled that it was not 'polGble that
any more would be required to go out of the coup.
try than thole who were eoetathed In the tint elate.
The SIICRATART at Waa (aid, the details as to the
number and defcription of the men to be drawn out
ought to be left to his Majefty. It was certain that
the perfons in the Sift clefs would be the firtt to a 0
femble ; but it was necefary to provide for a cafe
which, thouglt unlikely to happen, might happen.
The next claufe was for training the men for s 1
daye-at •fartbeft, and not Ids than to days till the
ayth of 'December nett.
Colonel Wools withal, that men thould be trained
all the ytar round, as there was no knowing how
long the alarm might left.
Mr. Purr Lid, the object was, that the air dais
training thould take place as early as poifible. He
thought 14 days would be too little, unlefs it was
meant to be in addition to the Sundays. He thought
it was not polfible to train any number equal to the
firi clefs in the court* of the pretest year. It would
be much better to leave it to his Majefty.
The SACRATART at Waa dbtatvett, that it was in.
his blajefty's diferetion to give direitions as to the
period of training. In fourteen days a man might
learn all that was fuffscient. It was not necefary to
keep men looser exercifing than jug to give them the
Sri rudiments.
.air W. PULTINAT remarked, that ex=aleft
upwards et two hours at a time osly oaf

INMIIMMIIm

wearied thensk knead of facilitating their improve.
talent.
Mr. COURTIMAY Rated, that he remembered a ra.
giment under Lord Hnwe, in the year 1756, which,
confining of raw recruits, in three weeks learnt its
eurcife, and was able to fire in platoons as well as

the moll experienced regiment ; he law it afterwards
embark for America. He mentioned this to thew
that twenty-one days were fufficient to learn people
the ufe of arms. He often raw old regiment. ma
nceuvering, looking to the right and left, and fig„,„
ing in and out like fehool.milles with French (lane.
ing mailers, while young recruits, with very little
/nitration, became effeitive foldiers. If this Bill
was effentially carried into efea, it would snake
every man able to face the enemy.
The next dance related to the number of men his
Maiefly fhosild draw nut in the fiat indauce upon the
alarm of invafion.—sAgreed to.
The next required that the muter roll &mild make
report of the prefent and the abfentees at the pa-
rochial drills.—Agreed to.
The SICRITAIT at Wag then brought up a chlla,
enacting, that perfons earning their livelihood by
daily labour fhould be paid ts. for every day's at-
tendance ; and that the fame Ibould be paid by the
litperieers of the Poor, who fhould be reimburfed
evert, month by the Receiver-General, under the
larder of two Jullices of the Peace.
SirWILLIAIII PULTSOIT thought this chafe would
• be idioms to the whole fyftem. If Inch a principle
of reinettlaation was once begun, it could not be
withdreator. He was therefore averfe to their being-
any payment at all. He sighed that people fhould
come forth to exereife after their hours of labour
Mere over. He recolleaed that when the French fleet
the Channel was fuperior to ours, and there was
fear of inviter:on, the people exescifed after their la-
hftr was over, and all they received was ad. to
drink. It was a propofition defiruaive of the whole
fylleth, for be was well perfeaded the money mall
idrentually come out of the public purge. He hoped
the Committee would not liba for one moment to it.
Mr. PST? Paid, he confidered the adoption of the
clank neccflary to reader the Bill efficient for the
purports of it. He did not mean to fay that
Were to be paid when they were not taken from
'their labour. He had no with that they thould be'
tetnunerated for exercifing on a Sunday. Referring
in the employing of the people during the approach-
ing hay and corn harveft, be was lure they could not
devote themfelves to at days execcife without taking
' fo much time from their labour. In a future year
the payment propofed might be regulated, but at pre-
kin it was a propofition of indifpenfible neceffity.
Sir W. PULTINIIT fail, that if fuch a precedent
was laid down it never could be departed from. We
ought to make a ftruggle to avoid paying any thing ;
the fereiee fhould' be entirely voluntary.
Lord Casttraattosi raid, he partly felt the force
of the objealon. With regard to Sunday, it would
be travelling out of the quellion to talk of giving pay
on that day, or in any cafe where the hour of elm.-
ere was not the hour of occupation. He thought
Tire claufe ought not to be general, becaufe undoubt-
edly there were individuals who would wills to make
sacrifice of their time to the public. He was of opi-
rtit that if words were introduced into the deuce,
tasking its operation to thole who firould require
tremuneration. the objetlion might he obviated, and
be thought the officer ought to certify when the par-
ty exercifed arm' the nfual hours of labour. He was
(misfit& that a people fo full of the untie in which
they were engaged, were capable of making whatever
facrifice might be necefary. The people of Ireland
bad willingly made that faerifice, and nothing had
ever occurred more to confirm them in habits of
indufiry. As Legitlating for the public, he was of
opinion the remuneration ought to be given where it
Was enquired.
The COMICILLOR of the Extort/sea fuggetted
Come flight verbal altetation in the &tofu
Mr. Fanatic faid, many men went to work at five
the morning, and continued till eight at night.—
If Gentlemen thought a man, after fuch labour,
could go to esercife with any degree of fpirit. they
were miftaken.
Mr. Couattuar obferved. that thofe who were
adverfe to the chute, fumed to think that virtue was
its own reward; but he believed men who tore at
four o'clock, and worked all day. would have vety
little inclination to exerciffi for two hours afterwards.
merely front afpirit of patriotifas. When he looked
up to the higher ranks, be did not perceive that they
were fond of working gratuitoully for the public.—
Much importance Teemed to be attached to this
(plendid (killing. He thought it was a proper en-
Couragement to rasps to give up their time. It was
not very light labour. after as hard day's work. to
handle a firelock for a couple of hours, and be was
petioaded, if the Hon. Baronet tried hit hand at it,
be would not think himfelf very well paid at mei.-
lag only a chilling. It had been mentioned that the
people who eaercifed themfelves upon an alarm of
=Teflon, bad received only twopence r now he re-
colleaed having read in the works of Gee. Monk,
that when men were led on to dangerous en-
terprizes, it was necefary to give them a pot of beer.
General Moak was a man of experience. and as be
bad raid in his timothat every man, in a fervice of
danger or trouble, should have a pot of beer, Curdy
it was not too much to fay thatthey ibould now have
a drilling to drink the King's health, and face& to
Old England. The precedent was not intended to
apply to another year, it only referred to the prefent
and enfuing henna.
Colonel -Poaraa was of opinion the allowance
ought to be make.
Mr. RIMMAILD (Netted to allowing the one Chil-
ling per day, twirls the men exercifed 21 confecutive
da)s.
Mr. Wtxxlaw Sweets was of opinion, that is. a
day might be too much at one period of the year,
and too little at another.
Lord CASTLIIIIAOM admitted, it might fornetimes
be more or lets than a compenfatioo, but no man wait
to receive it at any rate, males he earned his bread
by daily labour. and required it.
Mr. Grass °braved, that labourers in Tome parts
tithe country were hired for the month, and fed by
their mailers—confequantly, if they exercifed during
the hours allotted to labour. the lobs would be lbw
mailers' and not theirs. He thought the Immune-
ration ought to be left to the Nattiest of the Lords
taeotenants.
Mi. Vta. &tyro be wiled that lb, fyßos of

training might extend to t,cono,ooo of men and to
talk of paying them a {billing a day, would be to im-
pole a very heavy burthen upon the country. The
price of labour was already riling in the country, but
this plan would tend to make it rife fill more ' • for if
a man could get a fulling for exercifing two hours.
he would be apt to compare that remuneration with
the profit of his whole day's labour. _

After lime further ConverLation between Lnrd
Caillereagh, Mr. Plower, the Secretary at War,
Col. Wood, Gen. Gafcoigne, Doctor Laurence, and
Sir William Pulteney, the clank was agreed to.
The Ssearrsev at WAR then propofed a clanfe,
empowering Sheriffs of Counties to (women Juries
to afcertain the value of property apropriated to the
public iervice, in cafes where the owners ihould be
ditrAtisfied with the compenfation allowed by the
Lords Lieutenants.

The laft claufe propofed by the Secretary at War.
was the schedule containing the form of the Mußer-
Roll. '

Mr. TYRWIIITY (the Prince of Wales's Secretary)
brought up a elaufe giving the fame powers to the
Lord Warden and Deputy Warden of the Stanna-
ries, as to Lord Lieutenants and Deputy Lieute-
nants: and alfo another claufe endowing them with
the fame military command in the Stannaries, as
Lords and Deputy Lieutenants in the counties.
The Houfe refumed, and the Report was re:eived
and ordered to be taken into further conaderation to-
morrow.—Adjourned.

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