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possess .... -...‘raordinary ity, - . they
told from the mouth of theLeanied Gentleman him-
self; thathe ought not, under the commonest prin.
ciple of right or propriety, to do that'which he was,
now doing, and which be found advocates in that
House to plead in justification of. He could not con-
template for one moment, that the, flouse wawa c..
dure such a state of things. So shameless a principle,.
if it even deserved the name of principle, had never
before been propounded to that House, to call upon
them to sanction that a man should neglect the most
sacred duties he owed to his fellow-countrymen and
'to mankind. In conclusion, he must say that such a
proposition was the most absurd and monstrous that
was ever offered to any public assembly—(Hear).
Lord CASTLEREAGH declared that he had no
intention of wishing to affect the pending Election.
It would be open to the Committee to take cat e either
that the measure should or should not affect it.
After a few words from Mr. CALCRAYT, Mr. WYNN,
and Sir GEORGE HILL, the motion was agreed to,
and the House resolved itself into a Committee in
which the Bill was gone through, the blanks filled
up, and a number of slight alterations made.
On bringing forward the clause on which the
debate had- taken place, Colonel BARRY and Mi.
DALT opposed it, and Doctors Pnittaistota and*
LUSHINGTON supported it, on. the grounds pre-
viously stated.
Mr. NOLAN said, that in his opinion, whatever
were the merits of the principle, the bringing for-
ward the proposition at present, and, with reference
to present circumstances, was disgraceful to P.tr•
liament. Suppose the clause affected a Member who,
had already taken his seat—what would be thought
of any measure to disqualify him ? Yet this was a
similar case, and seemed directed against an indivi-
dual, though brought forward opportunely as 1
general principle. Mr. Ellis might, however, have
friends who would do his Chancery duty for him
while necessarily absent; .and if not, had not the
Court of Chancery its own remedy against him if
he neglected his duty? As an ex post facto measure,
and personal in its application, he could not but,
think the present one of the harshest and most unjust
ever offered to the House.
Mr. R-MARTIN was in favour of the clause. If
one Master in Chancery was eligible to be elect*
why might not all the others be chosen? and thee,
'for ten months, the business of the Irish Chancery
would stand still. .
Mr. WILLIAMS spoke on the same side.
Colonel BARRY observed, that the incongruity
between the two offices was not found out last year,
when the Bill went through the Commons to. the
Lords. Mr. Ellis had bought the place for 100.000
when it was saleable, which by law it waspo longer.
—He could riot have contemplated that holding it'
would shut tin] out from Parliament, and yet this•
would have the effect of legislating upon vested
tights in his person.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT and Mr. MARTIN explained.
/ Mr. NOLAN noticed, that in all other Disqualifi-
cation Bills their operatioil did not date till the Par-
liament after they were agreed to. .
Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH supported the clause,
as reo.edying an evil, now for the first time presented.
Mr. WROTTESLEY said, that sitting in Parlia-
ment was not an office, but a trust, and that trust
was between Mr. Ellis and his constituents. The
principle of this night's argument was carried too
far. Itmight be applied to Officers in the Aimy
and Navy, and greatinconvenience be introduced.
Mr. BARING said, the difference was that Mr.l
Ellis's office *as permanent, and required -constant
attendance, while Officers in the Army and Navy,
though abient for a period, might return to their
farlianentary duties entirely. -
Sir JOSEPH YORKE observed, that Officers of
the Army and Navy had no suitors whose interest*
depended on their attendance.
Lord PALMERSTON stated, that the general
principle of exclusion from Parliament was directed
against offices under the influence of the Crown,
with which thepresent case had nothing to do. But
it was proposed on the ground of other duties which
Mr. Ellis had to perform. Where was this to stop?
The same rule might be made to apply to Officers,
of the Army -or Navy serving abroad. Was the
House then ready to admit a principle which would
imply inquiry into the public or private duties by
which any of its Members might be prevented from
attending? This would be.a dangerous precedent..
Mr. M. FITZGERALD was for the clause.
Lord CASTLEREAGH thought that the measure
should not be retrospective,, but admitted the princi-
ple as fit to be supported by an Address, which it
would jse difficult for, any Minister to advise the
Crown to reject, looking to Mr, Ellis's own evidence.
Mr. ABERCROMBY detailed the important
functions of a Master in Chancery, and thought that
they were inconsistent with a seat in Parliament.
Mr: FOSTER stated, that during the time haired
sat in Parliament, he recollected that it had been
discyssed, whether persons of a religious profession
should hold seats in that House? It had been deter-
mined that they should not; but with the express
proviso that that decision should not affect those who
had seats at the time, nor during that Parliament.
Mr. MACDONALD stated, ,that the case of Mr.
Home Tooke, alluded to by the Right Hon. Gentle-
man, was vent different from the present, as Mr.
Horne Tooke injured nobody by siting' in Parlia-,
mem till As close, whilst any Master in Chancery,
who should neglect the functions of his office for a
seat, might occasion.much inconvenience and injury.
A Mamma stated, that if Mr; Ellis were elected,
and allowed to sit in that House, be should:think it
his duty to move an Address on the subject.
• The clause having been agreed to, -
Colonel BARRY proposed to add another clause,
preventing any person who'should have been elected .
previous to tire paving of this Act, from being af-
fected by its operation.
After a few words from Mr. V. Ihrgenafixn and

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,fraw certain clauses out of that Bill. The two first
Were those which related to Fines and Recoveries,
and to Marriage Registers, Marriage Licences and
Certificates. This he should do on the principle, that
offences connected with those matters, amounting to
personation and forgery, ought to come into one ge
neral Act, and that he intended to propose such an
Act nest Session. The other clause which he wished
to omit related to Convicts returning from transporta-
Ilion in cases in which the Revenue had been de-
frauded, as he did not see why any difference should
be made between such convicts and others. Those
were the'only. three clauses which he was desirous
of withdrawing ; on the rest he should take the sense
of the ifouse.--Se*eral clauses were then agreed to ;
and on that for removing capital punishment in cases
.where cattle had been maliciously maimed orsvoun
Mr. CHETWYND expressed his apprehension lest
the removal of capital punishment fot such offences
should lead to their being more frequently commit-
ted. He therefore suggested the propriety of leav-
ing it to be inflicted at the discretion of the Judge.
ik J. MACKINTOSH observed, that as tile Bill had been
tsUkase before the House, being twice carried in silence, and
witit II Majority of two to one in his favour, he could not
be masted to offer anything new upon the subject at present;
but he Mt it necessary to repeat, that nothing could be farther
keen his Intention, than to cast the slightest imputation upon
the Judges, because be felt, from the conduct of those exalted
Magistrates, that no imputation could freely attach, nor did he
hum to take away from them any discretion but that which
they never exercised. From the manner then in which the
Judges generally exercised their discretionary power, he could
not think it necessary to prescribe the limits recommended by
his Honourable Friend.

Sir J. YORKE observed, that as the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman avowedly took up these measures in imitation of the
example of, Sir Samuel Romilly, be ought to recollect the fate
of that Gentleman's propositions in the other House, and not to
pursue a course on this occasion, which, however creditable to
his heart, did not appear creditable to his head.
Sir J. MACKINTOSH felt persuaded that the adoption of
his Honourable Friends Amendment would not serve to re-
commend this HU to a more gracious reception in the other
Home of Parliament.
The Amendment waswot pressed. The House resumed, and
the Report was ordered to be brought up on Monday.
The Capital Felonies Repeal Bill was also committed, and
ordered to be reported on Monday.
Mr. MABERLEYbrought up.the Report of the Committee
oo the Linen Bounties Act.
The Resolution, underwent considerable discussion on thepart
of Mr. ILthaatzr, Mr. F. Rottman, Sir G. Hui., Mr. 1117114
Mr. Fonaw. Sir R. Ftheasso.' Mr. Husentsos, and Mx. Rs.
00.1b0 •i the lest Resolution was a read second time.
The second and third Resolutions were negatived, and
was ordered to be brought in upon the first Resolution.
Lord CASTLEREAGH vrve notice that he,would submit a
motion on Monday next, with respect to the Mlots on Eked=
Committees, the object of which would be to postpone those not
Axed for next week till the neat Session.
Dr. PHILLI MORE brought up the Report of the Commit-
tee on the Marriage Act Amendment Bill.
Dr. LUSHINGTON moved as an Antendatesn, that the lie,
port should be recommitted.
Mr. WARREN seconded the Amendment.
Dr. Dias* and Mr. p. Git.asse spoki in favour of the re-
tiothmittal, and after a roily to their arguments from Dr. Pisa.
=wiz, the House divided, when there appeared—For *the to.
caption of the Report 47—Against k 24—Majority 24.
The Report was then received, and the BiS. ordered to be read
a third time on Monday.
TM House went into a Committee on the Irish Estimate:On
which several Resulutioos were agreed to. ' .
In the Committee of Supply, a Resolution was proposed, on
the motion of Lord Berstein, for a grant of 410,000 for the Ca-
lidonian CanaL
Sir JOSEPH YORKE entered into a review of the progress,
in that work, and of the sums already expended in the un-
dertaking, from which be inferred that it would not answer the
expectations originally held out.
Lord BINNING expressed a hope that the Honourable
Pacer did not intend to atop a work which was already so far
advanced, and which was so likely to answer the object for
width it was begun.
- Sad ALTHORP objected to the grant.
Sitli. PARNELL supported the Revelation, and compli.
mesthell the teal and ingenuity of the engineer employed.
Alm some further observations the Resolution was agreed to.
M. C. GRANT proposed a vote of £19,214, for the support
of the Protestant Schools in Ireland.
Mr. HUME.said..he wished that the system of Education in
Ireland was proceeded on in a manner more liberal .and mote
agreeable to the increased and enlightened views of the present
times. He thought that the public institutions for education
should he open to the Catholics as well as to the Protestants.
Mr. VESEY FITZGERALD said, that the budtiltioas for
public education were conducted on a liberal pdnciple. Catholic
as well as Protestant children were instructed, except where
lir bequests were left far the exclusive education of
children.
After a few words from Sir Gaoaor Hats, •
Sir IL PARNELL requested that the vote Might be post-
pooed for the present.
Mk C. GRANT said that the liiscossion on this subket
mold be open on the hringing up of the Report.
The lieu vote was for a sash of £12,500 for the Board
of Works.
Mr. W. PARNELL complained that there was no grant for
as far the cure of-disorders affecting the eyes.
Mr. HOME deprecated the multiplication of these grants.
Me thought that such institutions-would be best established and
upheld by the activity and aid of the Public.
Mr. C. GRANT concurred with the Honourable Gentientan,
that private benevolence was the best support that public chari-
ties could receive. But Ireland was by no means deficient in
private bonevelenee.

AD. V. FITZGERALD said, that the City of Dublin was
ranarhabliebsestill ethers for the extent of its private charities.
Mr. HUNLEnha took 'occasion to complain of the grant of
&W,OOO to the bah Loan Board.
Mr. GRANT mid, that from the lateness of the hoof, as
well as this alootoot of his Right Hon. Friend, the Member for
Laub, hi wail mot aster into the discussion of the subject then.
The Ressliffills were agreed to, the House resumed., and the!'
BeEtwis oodalad to be brought up this day.
House mkt Into a Committee on the New Street Nit
Mr. HOBHOUSE,aj he held In his hand a Petition against
the Bat; the subject might lead to a discussion, and he thought
it better not to present it at so late an hour, as another °ppm*
amity, be understood, would be afforded to him.—Report ma
• Toessiouesre.
l'ho went into a Conn:lines) on the Exchequer Bills Act.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, that
MUM two years since two Acts had passed, authorising Com-
, mhaioaers, by the issue of Roolosrpar Bills, to raise certain
suns, to carry on eertaip Mb works, to ?salaam the fisheries,
and generally so jitstt maimmeovisist. and amployment to the
poor ; a balance of about Cep
that NMI mosailedmat
piled in the handset the gbigst waste sp.
ply that lam to thivervice of thepoosent yes,:
Mr. RICARDO 'debate know wbetber the Exebecrser Bii
for this sum were Included hi the Swam of thee-Unfunded Debt R
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said they
were, andlhat arrangements were made for discharging them in
.October neat... The Report was agreed tot and the Chancellor
of the Exchequer gat leave to bring inn Ball fovab approprio.
tion of the sum of L'istig,ooo in the manner that Unstated.
The CH ANCELLOK of the EXCHEQUER siso not
to brill; im a Bill for the bates separation of damaged

the tegaiation of Duties on P.par an/

BM wet through a COlSMittee. Tire
d on Monday.
,LOR of the EXCHEQUER gave rake.
a Committee of Supply, he would =f r.
' propose a vote for. the expenses of the

. as he understood the new Lottery lird
, which went to fetter the,4iberty of the
that those be printed.
from the Cosocassos of the Etclustrzt,
' to.
....USHINO-& _IN got leave to bring in a 818 for deals.
dithag of the ColonW Accounts.
The other Orders of the Dar were they disposed of. sud the
House asijourned, soodderably after Two o'Clock. .

• THE E`►'.ENING STAR

LONDON.

SATURDAY, JULY 1, 11/20.
THE TUNDS.
FIIICZ OF STOCKS THIS DAY XT ONE O'CLOCK :
3 per Cent. Reduced 68% 74
3i per Cent. 771/4-4 ?el Cent. 86 8614
5 pet Cent. Scrip. 1 Ye pre.
Lg. Anns. 17 13-16 Ys—lndia Bds.2ss. 265. pr.
Exchequer Bills, 3s. ss. pr.
Omnium 54 pre.
Consols for Acct. 701/4 34 V.

The Paris Papers of Wednesday arrived this fore-
noon.—The dryness of the discussion in the Chamber
Deputies, on Budget of Expenditure, was on
Tuesday, somewhat relieved by a curious interlude,
in which M. BENJAMIN CONSTANT player a princi-
pal part, The poser of voting the supplies wa ,he
obset ved, one of the greatest advantages possessed
by the Representative Body ; it enabled them to
exacuexplanations and concessions from the Execu-
tive, which could not be otherwise obtained. The
Chamber had now an opportunity of this kind, of
which he earnestly wished they would avail themselves
They were about to rote away arum of 800 millions,
and before doing so, he desired that Ministers should
be called on to give satisfactory explanations on two
points, in which he thought the honour and dignity
of the National Representation were deeply concened.
First, he wished' to know why the letters of certain
Deputies to their Constituents, on the subject rd their
legislative duties, had been intercepted, in their s ay
through the Post OffiCe, b, &Le agents of Government?
And second, wiry the Cenrors of the Press had
dared to prohibit the- publication in the journals of
a speech
.delivered in the Chamber of Pters, and
•ordered

hy that Chamber to be printed ? M Cox-
STANT justly remarktd, that if such practices as
these e tolerated, thEre was an end ao a free
communication teiw-eeti the People 2nd their Repre-
seatatives, on the'cie!irtictivi ;isequences of which
be enlarged at considerable length. Fie therefore
moved, that the debate on the Budget should be sus-
pended till Mthisters gaie the explanations required.
—This motion vows not, -however, seconded, and after
some debating, M. Cowsvair said, that satisfied with
baying given publicity to the injuries of which be
complained, he withdrew his motion.. .

The discussion on the Budget was then again
adjourned.

Accouns. from Majorca state that the plague,
which bad broke out in that Island, was extending
with alarming rapidity. Palma, the principal town,
had insulated itself, by a military cordon, from all

:ation with the rest of the Island.

A Captain of an English ship arrived at Marseilles
from Oran, :'rates, that a squadron of five armed
ships had sailed from Algiers about the beginning
of Jane for the Northern Seas.
. We. find in the Gazette de Frazee, an account of a
very curious, if not scandalous. litigation, about to
commence in Ole Parisian Tribunals. The complain-
ant is a Hamburgh Merchant, named JOSIENI Cairn.,
and the persons against whom he institutes proceed-
ings are, the Duke of ROVIGO
.(SAVARY). Dassse-
and• SCHULZSIZISTER, employed under the
.Duke in the Police, and BERNARD, Er-Director of
Gambling Houses. The accusation* this: In 181 i,
the complainant, previously engaged in -contract
with the French " Imperial Davy Was solicited by
the French General, commandinj; in Hambargli, to
discount Bank of England Notes to the amount of
£5OOO. He consented, and negotiated the notes,
to a considerable amount,' and, by order of the
General, deposited the residue in the hands of the
Director-General of Police of. Harnhurgh.: The
Bank of England Notes all proved forgeriei;iranl
CASTEL was obliged •to make. gold al3 ros.ses.--,
Hetben came to Paris, received an invitatioirfrons
M. DESMAREST, Chief of a division of the Police-ft
was politely received—yid requested by Dzerantst-
' to state the precise amount of these noses which he
had negotiated for the French General. From this.
and other circumstances, CAITEL had suspicion of
DZSMAREST and the Duke of Rousso, whom he now
charges in common with others, with having fabri-
cated this spurious Bank of England money. lit
states where, how, and by whom the forgeries ,weir
committed, and even the agents seat to circulate them
in England. We have seen for some time
.curioiss
disputations in the, French Papers, where Duna:env
actually was, whether in Franie or England....
French 5 per Cents. Tuesday, Mar. 70
We mentioned yesterday, .eery briefly, the trials-
'for High High Treason that had beewinstituttd at Buenos-
.Ayres, against the Moab's) elate lets qaverarGerar
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ras imposOle for him tohola these two situations. Sir J
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d Words. Ht. (Sir James) had smoker tassem.llol• .. . : ..*'• CRIMINAL LAWS.
CHANCELLOR
sld rather use bard arguments til soft words 1i...•• ...• Ve theeittiiin of Sir I•MACKINTOII6, the
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!err, and laugliter.)-Would thti siesif.nduir the ,viret into Committee' on the rtivatel, YStrialia*, **Pa Monday nest, in g
iof perruittinvs person to silitarlithemholdt Shope• .0/id the Capital Felo4es 8i115.,-lleporcs ea Elt• Animates of, and
.a 7 judieihl °ice, the distills ' :w ' required M 1 day next. °I ''.o
:tria:chi.ung,:icrianidat,ion.ths,
months °this attendance ie &hilt in each year, : The House-then resolved iritu a Comiiittecion-
. ill • *
Cheers). The Honourable Baronet said, there was 2iipitol Felonies Commutation Bill, *hen . - 'Press, be ;odd nanwelisesd:
to novelty. in this case. It was trues! the case'clid • Sir JAMES. MACKINTOSH stated, that on more After a few words fron
sess this extraordinary oeeeity, 'that they weer nature consideration, it was his intention to with- the Matfett was agrced to
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