Star.
London, England, 1828-05-02 00:00:00

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!,:nobody would work. sakthen when they became sick
be, would be thrown. unmet lie Loader I am,,tlsees-
i. . winced, that the • • 'of mf Noble
Iftiend ice. sat one which • amliamont should entertain,
My billable Friend hat truly mid thet the: wantoicagital
iai;bwareat want in Ireland; but the employment of
c beland would not necessarily prevent the
gitstressesof the pose. Hy Noble Friend has said that.
,neatly Iva stallions of Irish capital are to be found in
this country, and that to support the poor a sum of
seven millions was required annually. ll* contends
that a system of poor laws ought to be esteblished in
Ireland. but I maintain. that the poor laws as they exist
in this country and Scotland are not applicable to Ire-
land. Your Lordships have evidence before you to
show this. I am, therefore, at a loss to conceive why
we should go again into that inquiry, in order merely
to have the same evidence re to us.--(Hear, bear.)
I think. moreover, that it is= to avoid the excite-
ment that would necessarily be produced by your
Lordships concurring in a motion of this nature, and
for these reasons I think that the inquiry recommended
by my Noble Friend is not necessary.
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL opposed the motion
on two grounds—lat, because, if they granted relief, it
would only enable the people to pay more money to the
Catholic Association; 2d, that it would diminish the
rent of the landlords, and if the lands were not culti-
vated the country would be depopulated. 90 long as
the people could get a potatoe, and were sot asked foe
rent, so long *Ould they be satisfied..
The Earl of DARNLEY said, that observing the
feelings of the Noble Duke op.and perceiving that
they were concurred in br aany Noble Lords top.
:recta with Ireland, who must bebleter acquainted with
what was calculated for its happiness, be felt that 1301
ought not pertinaciously to persist in pressing his motion.
Hewitt tint more friendly to the Catholic religion than
was the Noble Lord (Lorton). who was la Winne to Prci-
testantise Ireland ; but sure be was that the constant vitu-
peration of the Catholics, and of their Clergy, was not
the best mode of making converts, or of allaying the
animosities that unfortunately prevailed in that country,
He would re feat his firm conviction, that so long as the
just chins' of the Roman Catholics were refused, so
long would it be impossible that Ireland should enjoy
tranquillity.
Lord Lome. Lord Leutascs, and Lori Neveressesswrerally
es
ti:etestios was then put, and the modal was misdeed Willa
a divide..
Several private Me were paned through thekeeepeave MINT
mere iessmaiocautomenet
art t-
The Hesse thee rooked itself at.hates Censiekteeee to ?ei't
DisfranchkenstntSll4when the following whams* went intameedt.
Wm. Spry depoled that in the contest of Int he hod paid g
Damen, a tenant of Manses. fey hie vote.
114 )1311et proved that whoa Dwaine sues sttlag w cite be
gave hint a discharge fir Ise tees.
Captain Fallow was nest Wks!. avid was sheet to tweesissioad
as •t•eoneareatione betweto Lima& and she edema*, votemariet
The LOUD CiIi.bICSLLOS leterpoiedosul via .t ogee
it could be sheen that those mavereatines tem Mesa epee by the
liesbaeds, and bad hoes easamesimeil a diem Sher mold RP; be
.evidence.
Lard CIIIIIIARITON sald. dot as all the Inatome bed ve-
•erevedsaideawirauld as thy ebjest wr teak* the tree atetoef
.the borough, he thought the evidence was adadaibla.
The MAW CHALSCSLLOS. howler. doe eal *et it meld
sot he 'widener.
Ihe emensinadee .vrias dire proceeded with, tie to..tbw 11110011%
.and Captain F,.Uow gave the same evidence as ..he had poteietidp
Alen. la the- Honee-of Commune.
The Homwthen resumed, wither a Owe calgrenlatlON itergoes
the Marquis of Samoan:eV, the Earl of C.aseimmtakand the LAPP
Cu/mentos it wee agreed to resume the CommitteeWOO"
morrow meat.-" Tit -Home thee adjewned at lkievialgefifsgr-
• LORD ELDON'S PROTEST •
ADAUIIT 21111 .THIRD aItADDIU •b. TuJtC4OUPPIitATADIT
• D TEST ACTA AtEAA.LIRIiaXe
DiSSEntitrit.-•-FitiA,--UCCEEArt if -.4P•Out .that
so much of the. Acts recited 1* ae -igniOnte., :the',
-necessity of receiving the Sacrament of the .Loco's'
:Supper, as a test that the patty receiving it is a member
of .th.e.Established Church, should be xepe. led, some
celrecatal provision ought to have been ,made by this
Bill, fur the ;purpose of _establishing that she persons
who _are to be placed in c.ffice, or employments, .r.
Protestants, and rumbas of the.g.tablishe.d Chutch,:to
.the intent to .preserve 111 e .Coo ititotion, as-it,h been
famed by the Anion of the „Established .Church swish'
the State. Mad Await the Bill DQt only-makes
such revision, but-creates. only the necessity Of •makies
.declaration, which: may be.nrade by persons not-teen
Protessunts, and brpetonsis slenyiag some of.the Ueda-
ineatal.dactrines of ..Gbristiaeity, as maintaioed,in the
'Established- Chureb,..as to which Church •it :hats. been
declared.by lawe -at the tinted the 'hi en with itletrtinod,
-not only, that the doctriee, Worship, allaCiptille,.ll4tl scut.
vet await thereat, but that. the true Protestant ton,
professed and established in the Church of England.
!should be-effectually and unalterably: secured.
• Second—Because. it having been alleged in the de-
bates upon this 13411, referring to the Petitions -which'
have been preieoted to the House, that persons cannot,
with due regard to. liberty of conscience, be precluded
from holding offices' in- the State on account of their
religious persuasionsewe think it necessary to declare,
that altholgit everrperson ought to be ate liberty to
worship Gun according as his conscience may dictate,
doing no injury, to the State, we cannot; admit. that to
she enjoyment rf that liberty, rightly!understoird, it is
necessary that those persons, who only profess that they
will nor; in the exercise of any power, authority, or hi-
avenge which they .may possess.. by virtue of office, in-
lore, weaken, -or disturb the Church, should be consi.
.dared asoqually eligible to offices in-the State as those
;whose members of the Church, connected. and-baited
with --the State. it being, nieteover, very possible that
''acts done by. persons snaking such professions, which
pets may disturb,• weaken.• or injure the Estallished
.Chorvbi-gbOr be acts which such persons might deem
it their booodenduty. to have dorm if they-had not been
placed in .office, and which, therefore,- it• might be on-•
reasonable- -to consider as- acts done by virtue of their
office.

Third-3eeaose we-think that, whilst the-State ought
to secure to all who do not-disturb the public peace,
complete liberty of conscience; it is perfectly consistent
with such duty of the State to determine by what per.'
sons, subjects of it, the offices of State should be
executed.
Fourth-4 Becauie it 'seems to us much more probable
that peace, whir)), by the Jaws in king respecting, thei
Mitch -Establishment, and the tolelatton of thole. who,
dissent from !Ostia lung been enjoyed in this realm:.
luottiritbstanding all differences as to-oligicwa persua-
sions, should cootiese undisturbed, if this Bill bad been
!ejected, an* is that it should continue to be enjoyed
atter' passed iam,
Ste wet :that the Bills pf,lndemnity,
which hae bss* Comma time annually passed, whilst
dratioin Ar* to till* C*14450 the Policy. Pi 'Myles
, same tut *P,Albetei.igioss,opiniass ,o( ;hose who are
to Ake same time, sufficiently
lelievarthosalibadismitco fsonathe Estabhsbellchurcb;
4ndihinigh b gime to **OAR Acrabi 64d,asAnseci.
is dente. that, it Was-Bill pasted nue a law, annual
Bab if Indemnity wield Ss herr be neceisary, Me