Star.
London, England, 1828-04-23 00:00:00

CORN LAIVL

Oa the sitiestion, that the Home shook! resolve Um a Committee
on the Corn Laws' Act,
Mr. PORTMAN said, that he considered the present
propositions that had come from his Majesty's Govern.
went. as worse than those which had been brought for-
ward last year. In the latter case there had been a positive
protection afforded ; but the present Resolutions neither
gave so decided a protection, nor did they afford it to the
same amount. The receipts of the Landed Interest of Ent
band,it would be found on inquiry, were only equal to el nel
eg of what they had formerly been, and therefore be,
thought that the Government was bound to consider the
necessity of providing against any further depreciation.
He took it for granted, from what he could understand
ti the intentions of the Government,' that they conceived
that sixty shillings was the price at which the land-
nuldcrs ought to be protected; or...in other words, that
sixty shillings ought to be about the price which they
!were to receive for the production of their land. Bet if
Omh were the feeling of Government, it was surely neces.
Dry for them to take some step by which that price
should be maintained; and be did not think that the
present measure was sufficient for sneh a purpose (Hear).
He therefore trusted that the House would feel in-
clined to support him, should he move that the Com-
mittee should be gone into that day six months.
Mr. BYNG thought that the present Resolutions were
not open to the objections which had been taken to
them. The point tor. which the landed interest was'
stickling, was the imposing of a higher protecting duty;
but he could not exactly Make out with what they would
be content: AU the concession that be found them
willing to make was, that they did not wish the price
quite to reach eighty shillings—(A laugh).
Mr. BEAUMONT said, that in 'several places on the
Continent the price of wheat was such, that it could be
imported at 545. The price 'was 245. which, together
with the other charges and duty, amounting to 30r.
made 545. N rw, Ministers assumed that 58s, was the
lowest rate at which importation could take place, but
this calculation, of the accuracy of which he was assured,
gave a different result.
Mr. C. GRANT admitted, that there was soane:diffi.
catty to determining the precise price at.which foreign
importation might take place. and this difficulty arose
from the.varying nature of the price of. the article of
foreign Co:a. The difficulties that sometimes occurred
in the navigation occasioned this fluctuation. It was
occasioned, too, by a variation in the harvests, and by a
variety of circurnstancea, into the. detail of which be,
would not now enter. It was. sufficient for hint to
say, that amidst the difficulties with which the question.
was surrounded, the Government had fixed tr.'
what they considered to be a reasonable protection.
They had, in tie first place, adopted a varying duty,
which it would be admitted on all sides was preferable
to a prohibitory one. But the. shortest and most mist
factory way for him to proceed, was to advert to
facts. He would, therefore, state what appeared. from
the papers laid before the House, to be the prices of i
corn in the principal coin markets of Europe, with a
view of showing that there was no reasonable gr• and
for entertaining the apprehension expressed by the Hon.
Member (Mr. Beaumont). In Dantec, the price in
1827 was 225. the charge of coasoyance he would
estimate at 12s. which, together with the duty, and other ,
charges in this country, would exceed 645. It bed been
stated that corn was introduced
.into Hull and into
Newcastle at a price below 58s. but the circumstances
under which it was introduced were not stated. It
.was very well known that bad corn could be *rm.
:duccri at a very inferior price. He would next advert
to Hamburgh, between which and this country there
was a very constant communication,—throe price in 1826
,was 235. Op. and in 1E27, 235. 2d. which, with the
accompanying charge and deity to-v.lkb he had before
'activated. would exceed the sum which had been stated
by the Honourable Member. To come Dearer home—
to Holland—the price of Corn was still dearer, and the
consequent duty, &c. raised the importation price higher.
At St. Petersburgh the price was 255. and according to
the scale of duties, the. Importation price would approach
to nearly 70s. .Upon the whole of the averages of the,
last six years it would be seen, be waesatisfied, that aide'
all due allowance for the difficaltler with which the'
question was surrounded. the protection adopted by his
,Majesty's Government was a reasonable, a moderate,
rand a just one.
Mr. PORTMAN hoped the Right Hon: Gentleman
!would not omit to state the important fact, whether the
,proposed scale was or was not to be permanents I
Mr. Secretary HUSKISSON here intimated, that the'
more proper and usual time for entering upon the dig-
ussion of the Resolutions would be in a Committee,
when the merit of the several parts of the measure miff
ic
!be discussed. This was far more convenient than to
lanticipate that discussion by an irregular debate now'
tOrte Gentleman said be would not support the measure
lin Committee, if such a duty was proposed; another
`Get:denten objected to another branch of the measure.

But instead of putting these suppositious cases, the far
better way would be to bear what was proposed, are
then to entertain the discussion upon it.—(llear).
Mr. CALCRAFT differed from the Right Hog
Gentleman. He maintained that the discussion w,
.iterfectly Parliamentam He admitted:Ow-they eottla
make no
.preigreSs in the plan proposed by tie Right
Ron. President of the Board of Trade untiLtheSpeato
had left the Chair ; but he thought that Hon. Member,
had a right to seek for information upon particular points,
He had supported the plan of last year, which bad
received the sanction of a great majority of that House,
and which had been brought forward by Mr. Canning
with so much ability; and until be heard some reams
why the present was its superior, he was atit willing
to see the Resolutions of the Right Honourable Gan.
tlernan (Mr. Grant) make any proem* in that Hoyle.
He contended, that if the interests of the whole core.
munity were not consulted, the question would not be
set permanently. at rest. He admitted and maintained
that the landed interest ought to be protected, and he
felt its great importance to the country ; but the pro;
tection was necessary with a view to the interest of the
country in general—(Hear, hear)—if the agriculteiile
Were not supported, the whole community ma
eider. He thought that no one entertained such
Wild notions upon the subject as to wish to let down
the price of corn so much as to give the market
to the foreigner—(Hear hear). Such a inoceediag
Would eventually produce higher price., in acidities
to a dependence on foreign countries. What hi
ontended for was, that the country was well satin
Bed with the-measure of last year. He had him.
eel thought 60s. was ample as the first price; het
now, without any change whatever having taken place,
excepting in his Majesty's Councils, they were told the
the present price ought to be 644. He spoke of the
Winchester measure; and let the House look at theca.
cumstacces. In 1815, a Bill fixed the fair remunerating
price at 80s.—in 1822, in consequence of a change is
circumstances, the price was fixed at 705.--its ter, the
House was told, that upon a calculation of the average
prices for the preceding five years, 60s. would be a fat
pivot price; and now, whip the average price for the
intervening period had been lower than it was before. the
Right Hon. Gent. came forward and told the Housethat
645. was a fair pivot price. Was such a proceeding gra.
cious to the peopleovho had expressed their approbatios
of the former measure?—(Hear). Was it gracious
to the House of Commons, a majority of which, at
the instance of his Majesty's Government, had given its
warm support to that ,treasure?—(Hear, heat). And
this alteration was made, too, without any reason being
assigned. Indeed the Right Hon. Gentleman, in Wag-
ing forward the Resolutions, had had too much me.
desty to attempt to assign a reason 'for abandoning the
old Bill, when he knew there was none—(Hear). He
objected, therefore, to that part of the Resolution which
differed from the measure of last year. In adverting to
the objection taken to the present Resolutions by the
Hon. Member for Dorsershire, he must agree with his
lion. Friend in saying,that by the new plan, where the
agriculturist was the most vulnerable he was the emu
exposed, and where he was the least in danger or opts
to attack, he was encumbered with armour—(Heaii,
The people of England did not wish to have Corn at a
very low price, eueptisg it shoold please PROVIDE.
to grant an abundant harvest; and then, in common
with the agriculturist, they would rejoice at the blest-
ing. What the people wished was, that the real interest
of the commatiity should 'be consulted, and that. the;
agrkulturist -should be ade.,uately protected. By 04
Bill of last year he was protected, and as an impor-
tant alteration had been made, he, in common with
his Honourable Friend and others, was desirous of
information upon the point. They all knew more
than they were in the habit of saying in that House.
to
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dd Wellington's
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froma, tthewh
The Duke of Wellington did right enough
in proposing that the pivot price should be 645. and
some Right Honourable Gentlemen might act very
wisely in supporting that proposition, although they.
had advocated the Bill of last year;' but their conduct
was no ground for the proceedings of that House.
Whatever might be their reasons for upholding the nes
measure, it would ill become die House to forget is
consistency.—(Hear). But he might be told that he
was not right in supposing that the Duke of Wellingtoe
as the head of the Cabinet, had effected the change.—
He might be told that the best way of securing the s'*
cess of the principles of the mousse was to adopt the
present B.esolutiuns—that . they would be permittei to

pass into a law. He had heard a great deal too such I
of that sort of linguage of late--(Hear). He had bees I
told in a ComMittem up stairs that such and such
Noble Lord is so strongly opposed to such and such a '
clause, that if it is not omitted, the Bill will not pan
into a law—(Cheers). `Against all such language he
protested—(Hear, bear). He wishedto see the men fitting
measure passed into a law, and he did not believe the
the other House of Parliament would ever so far pervert
its office as to thwart the interest of the communist' at
large. The Right Hon. Secretary' for the Colonies said
that no one could object to the motion before the House,
unless he approved of the law as it stood. He did nut
see the justness of the remark. He did change
in the law. A more pernicious law than the Scent oaf
had never been contrived, and he cangtatulated
on having b.en one of its most strenuous opposers.—
Such, then, were his grounds of • opposition to the pre'
posed ResolutiOns, and if he thought.the Rouse wod4
follow him in supporting the 13111 of last years as kb"
done the Right HIM. Gentleman who proposed iE, be
would certainly takeits sense upon the metits the our
measures—Aearj. . .
Mr. RUBINSON had beard with unmixed Waal
the sentiments Obis Hon. Friend whohad jiist
and, entertaining the same sentiments himself, he bad
bees induced in the former part of the evening to give
incite that he would divide the House on the :vase
;rounds as those referred to by his Hon. Friend. Fed.
ax, however, that his, object would be better obtained
by leaing it ip the bands of his Wu. Friend, he shot"
Aut presslis intended motion..
Mr. CALCRAFT expressed his eatreme gratifiesti"
at what had been just stated, and should therefore pet
pugs in bit intention.

Mr. E. G. STANCEYconIaI not agree with the IVO
Heston/able Gentleman (Mr. Hoskisson) that-tbe preset(
opportunity was not a good ate for discussion. It
appeared to him to be the very fittest for ascertairrieg
the sentiment* of the people upon the Resolutions,
through their constituents. It was with that view sits
:the Resolutions bad been brought forward before Eater.
and this was the first opportunity which had resat"
itself since the House had resumed its sittings—Oleo,
hear).—He had beard no reason from Ministers wbf
they should recede from the Resolutions of list year.
.There might be reason why Right Honourable awl
Honourable Gentlemen bolding official situations should
abandon the 13111 they bad supported last year; rt
might be advisable for them to concede to their 031'
leagues and so forth, but that was no ground upm

whith that Rips*, t
depart from a plan
Without going into i
on principle t be kni
a geed duty would
whatever might be
would not then eipt
Hplf unfavourable t
bad also declared, tl
weasare ought to be
respect the present r
pably defective—(H
some of the Member
stetted being comp
proposed a disingen
it afforded greater
at a certain price
was not likely to
Dill W 45 this, it g;
wowed. sod withbeh
protection to high Pr
...-Looking at the ti
straight forward sati
was meant to captis
and on the. other by
calculated to prods
should therefore supi
Friend (Mr. Itobinso
troduced by Mr. C
matrow—(Cries of N
majority, and was ca
the views and wishes
Friend, the Member
terse to making sus
year would require f
,port it cordially.
'Sir E. JCNATCHI
ifirst time, of the supp
ii 'mariners to their
he stippr.sed change
ther House of Fedi.
Mr. STANLEY it
fi, Grant had avowe
s Resolutions.

Sir E. KNATCH
), he perlecay conic
ich a course by the
at the Resolutions
:clam:mon, and ren
lent a lbe Member
y neatly 12O.Mentt
anatorsal coalition,
ten against the'proi
gors.al,o, opinion y.
Mr. FERLi.USON
!inkier, kis entire
IMPI point was prop
Id de►cending Kate
ended that the awe?

on to the price of g
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iie discussion. bec U

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such pertinacity
he resolutions whiti
lembers. for Btidgen

ten teporied to the I
ley could be. propo.“
round on which the
t the Speiker's leavi
i propose for the
itions whic.ll it app
ose restiluttons, thei

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n•shoulst they hot 1
bmit tkient to ltrek
e really coikld- not *
what had tleeil•do
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to what they had i
ges, surely it-could
etermination which
:haoge of ciiruinstat
peakikgot was error
he eventual opini ,n c
t was so, undoubted
vhetathe two Manche
!xersise a jealous and
erns different uliewth
Polving the general. ri
ind where undoubte.
opinion-I expressed by
idhere to the:rice 1
he opinion "which it.!
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inionse when it cou
his practical course I
tcasiOn. when a Inca
N the circumstances
ily fair for all pact
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pply, and operated
in the warehou+
cerded, and he ha
present scale, gi
rk its effect upon
looked;at the ruts
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slightest inconsist
to-Pirliarnent.
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cook
Lord ALTHCIRr.
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m price was low, the
psense, last rear's
fetahle.

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titian, bait Mt Mel
Planation was necet
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conclusive, i
r. Grant) who pro'
t the attempt was
titre interests of
• C. GRANT b
ant to tense of ize i
Contrary, to make
11, opinions and u
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Late a Coatakittaa

which that House, the Commons of &lima, ought to
depart from a plan which it had sanctioned—(Hear,)
Without coin); into detail, he objected to the resolutions
on principle hr knew that many were of opinion that,
a filed duty would be better than a varying one, but
whatever nsight be his opinion upon that point, be
would not then express them, as the House had declared
haw unfavourable to the plan of a fixed duty. But it
had also declared, that one of the great objects of auy
mow ought to be to prevent fluctuation, and in that
respect the present resolutions were notoriously and pal-
pable defective—(Hear.) He had so much respect for
some of the Members of the Government, that he re-
greeted being comrelied to declare the measure now
proposed a disingenuous one. It was very true that
it afforded greater protection to the agriculturist
at a certain 'ince; but that price wits one which
vat not likely to be attained. The fault of the
13,11 was this, it gave protection where it was not
voted, and withheld it where it was required. It gave
Protection to high prices, but none to low ones.--(Hear.)
_Looking at the two Bills, that of last year was a
straight forward satislactory measure, while the present
vas meant to captivate on the one side by low prices,
end on the other by high, prices, and, in reality, was
calculated to produce injurious consequences. He
should the' cline support the motion of his Honourable
Friend (Mr. Robinson). The Bill which had been itt-
troduced by Mr. Cinning had been carried by accla-
mation—(Cries of No, no.)—At all events by a great
majority, And was calculated to meet, as tar as possible.,
the views and wishes of all parties. He hoped his Hon.
Friend, the Member for Dorsetshire, would not be ad-
verse to making such concessions as the Bill of last
yearwould require from bias, and that he would sup
port it cordially.
Sir E. RNATCHBULL had heard to-night, for the
first time, of the supposed concession of ti e Right H..sn.
Gentlemen to their colleagues in office ; as well as of
the uippcsed changes for the sake of conciliating the
other House of Parliament.

Mr. STANLEY interposed, and observed that Mr:
C. Grant h4d avowed both when.he brought forward
ibis Resolutions.

Sir E. KNATCHBULL added, that if the fact were
so, he petlec.ly coincided in the censures bestowed upon
such a course by the Honourable lkilensber. He denied
that the Resolutions of last year had been carried by
acclamation, and reminded the House that the Amend-
, it of th.e Member for Dorsetshire had been supported
nearly 170 Members. But for an extraordinary and
nnatural coalition, ;he majority would probably have
been against thi proposition of Mr. Canning. Out 01
doersal,o, opinion was against the measure.
Mr. FERWJSON could not give the Resolutions of
Ministers Its entire approbatii n, fiat thought that the
picot point was properly chosen, and that the ascending
and descending stales were duly regulated. He recom•
mended that the averages should be settled lay an attenii
lion to the price of gi ant* in the three kingdoms.
*Secretary PEEL objectiatl.to the continuance of
thisdisaission, because he crntld wit see what useful end
it.cOuld aoseer--(Fleat).' Why th.enla Gentlemen object
with such pertinacity to.timkSkiker'.‘ '•eaving the Chair ?
The resolutions which had been propused,by the Hon.
Members lot Br idgenoithisad for Afiellieen had not yet
been reported to the Honslttind the only.place in which
they could he proprised.Vils the Committee. The single
ground on which the Han. Member opposite obj .cied
to the Speaker's leaving• the Chair was, that he intended
to propose for the acceptance of the llouse the res..
'minus which it approved last year. Now, besidts
hose tesolintoas, there were others, which Hun. Gentle

..en severally.thought deservinikof considerate°. . Why
hen. shoula they not go at once into the Committee, and ,
ohmic tom to ..cregular and• saitsfac tot y discussion ?
He really coidd tint see how they were so fixedly bound
by what had been done last year,at least in the seiise in
which some Honourable Members seemed to think.. And
as to what they had done last year respecting the ave.
rages, Mel/ it .could not be said that they had made a
determination which was to he urrakesable under every
change of circumstances. He knew than, abstractedly
speakikgot was wrong to raise any speculation upon
the eventual opini in of the oilier House .of= Parliament ;
it was so, undoubtedly, as to a question of privilege,
sebetethe two hi anchesol the legislature might be said to
Milne a jealous and imiependent control.; but-the case
was different whewtheyeame to consider a measure in-
volving the general rights and interests of the. country,
and where undoubtedly an adherence to the:aeparate
opinions expresigd by each.wostld induce one branch to
adhere to the price of •6Q'. and the other to cling to
the opialon which ithad alleadydeclared. It wasright,
hisemer, to r. concik in meccas of-business conflicting
opinionk when it could be done with•conststonen and
this practical course had been followed on the present
I occasion, when a measure was introduced which, under
all the circuinatances of theicase, be thought was per-
fectly for lot cl patties.. the chief recommendation
of 1.,t year's nreasuie wits, that it regulated a limited
sspply, and operated upon 600,000 qnattere of corn
Meil.iti the warehouses. The experinient had so tar
occeeded, and he had ito doubt that in the progress of
present scale, general satisiaetion would- equally
ark its effect upon the community, at large. When •
1 looked;at the votes of last year upon this subject.
ad at all the attendant circumstances, he could not see
he slightest inconsistency in the measure now submit-
Led to Parliament. Time bitter way to have a fair un-
demanding upon the subject would becto go into the
Committee; it Was past eleven o'clock, and no farther
time Ought to be lost in considering the real 'Omits of
the case, . .
d ALTHORY tad no wiskto iispe4 the* pro-,
igiess into the Committee, where he knew the diseOtsiOn,
upon the clauses could more cooveniendr take. place.
. the same time, this preliminary discussion had not
been uncles', and it clearly showed him that the Bill of
la▪
st year was preferable to the present. The scale of
the former was to affix high duties when 'the pr,4o. Of.
Can s as low; but the present iraricd.entlithr 40.111 Sit
principle; for when the price was low the duty was to
beeeducpl, and to be raised when it was Islet. Whew
l price was low, then where was the protection ? In
this tense, last year's Bill was, he thought, decidedly
Piefttable„
Mr. PORTMAN did not consider this as a political
cluellion, but felt merely as an agriculturist, that some
511anation was necessary. He congratulated himself
1114 he had brought on the discussion.
Mr. EAS I'HOPg inquired how this Bill could be
,Thrd conclusive, when the Right Hon. Gentleman
proposed the Resolutions, insinuated
nat the attempt was an experiment to compromise the
IlresPective interests of landlord and tenant?
...MT. C. GRANT had never said that the Legislature
gu st to tern, prize nn this subject. They wished, on
the
contrary, to make a permanent arrangement, as fat.
the
ias .1
._opinions aid interests ci the parties enabled them
"
PrOSeed.
soAfter a few words from Mr. tiro-Hoose resolved k-
u'ta a Committee upon tlso regiectitis that:to

Laws.—On the quesden beingpethy the Cisatasese upon Mr. C.
Grant's Seale et Dudes,
Mr. HEATHCOTE rose and said, that as it was his
anxious Wish to see the proposed scale lowered, he
wished the Committee to report progress, and come to
the debate at an earlier hour of the evening—it was now
near midnight.
Mr. HUSKISSON thought, that after the prelimi-
nary discussion which had taken place, and the three
weeks' notice already given, the bulk of the Committee
were prepared to discuss the question without further
delay, though the Hon. Member might not be in a simi-
lar condition. So serious a subject ought therefore to
be proceeded upon without further loss of time.
Mr. HEATHCOTE admitted the subject to be se-
rious, but when he looked at the clock, he did not think
the House could reasonably entertain it with the deli-
beration which it required.—(Cry of is Go on.")
Mr. HOBHOUSE really thought, that before they
went on, the Government were bound to show how
they could reconcile the present measure with that which
Mr. Canning had last year introduced.
Mr. CALCRAFT was ready to go into the discussion,
even though the hour was so late: at the same time he
must regret the. way in which they had spent three or
four hours of the earlier part of the evening. He thought
it was incumbent upon the Government to explain why.
they had departed from their resolutions of the last year.
For his own part, he was quite ready to confess, that it
did not follow, because at one time one thing was done,
it ought to be repeated at another; still an explanation
was due, and ought not to be withheld. For the purpose
of bringing the.two scales of duty into fair and full con-
sideration, he would introduce, in the shape of an amend-
ment to the present motion, the rates fined in the pro-
ceeding of- last year. The Hon. Member then moved
'AS an amendment the adoption of Mr. Canning's scale
of resolutions of the last year:
Mr. ROBINSON seconded the motion, and quoted
a passage from Mr. Canning's speech of last year, to
show how completely Lord Liverpool was identified
' with the Corn Bill of last year.
Mr. BENETT certainly preferred the Bill of last
year to the present. It was founded on sounder princi-
ples, and gave protection where it was wanted. He
had prepared certain Resolutions, as an amendment of
the Bill of last year, from which, !madam., they did not
,gteatly differ. He should nut move them then, while
the motion of the H .n. Member for Wareham was
pending. He was convinced that the new Resolutions
we're g.-nerally unpopular,and that they deserved to be so.
Sir 6. PHILLIPS asked, when the It.ght Hon. Gen-
tleman (Mr. Huskisson) meant to explain the. reasons
for the change of Ministers' opinions.
Mr. fl ()SKIS-SON said, his Majesty's Ministers were
placed in a difficult situation. An Hun. Member had
moved to report progress, since when several Hon.
(:Members had explained their views, and the Hon. Mem-
ber for Watchful proposed an amendment. It was, tine
der those cif cu mstances, the duty of those who supported
the Resolutions to wait until the 'objections had been
made ;. but he was not unwilling to explain the nature of
the Itesolutions,al aiserexplanation really was necessary.
Sixty. shillings last year was the price considered neces•
sary for the pr...-tectidu *of the corn grower,. and the
question was, whether that was a sufficient protection?
'he present proposition was that it should descend or
'ascend, 64 shilling being the niarinime: They alwaya
'contended tr,at sixty shilings was an effici.-14 protee-
non, with such duties as would make that protection
adequate. The question then below the House was,
not whether they had charged their protection, but
whether th,•:protection of 4ast year was adequate? They
acre to took to what had occurred sincelast year; they
had t and the protection inistequ'ate. The bonded coo.
admitted io one mouth amountea to no less than 500,000
quarters. Lt. 'o, it was clear three-was not sufficient pros•
(action. That .was'the ground on which he would stand.
The measure of 1-st year a as never conside. ed perms:
neat, hut especial:trial. The woods of a Right Hon.
Friend within these walls were--'s It is niy earnest
wish that one of the first acts of the next Session
may be the reconsideration - of the Resolutions of
this House, and then we shall hive the experience of
the present Session." It was a temporary measure, and
considered as such. T se principle of Lotd Live, vet,
and that of his late Right Flom Friend was this:—that
up to 60 shillings these shouldlt e a protection to the
corn I:.row er from 56 to 65 shillings... Had there been
between SO and 65. shillings such a. check as to prevent
' foreign corn from coming in large quantities for home'
'tonsumption? No less than 500,000 quarters were in
;the warehouses of this country. It then became a
'question whether they should .Dot give further proteca
tson, and it was found that at 58 shillings, the duty n alr
'proposed, would have prevented the importation of all
that foreign coin to which he had .alluded. The object
was to afford protection up,to 60.shillangs, and when
the price t‘ as above 55 shilliegs, to encourage the im-
portation of Foreign. Corn. The Right Hon. Secretary
considered the Resolutions submitted to the House Per-
fectly justified by the circumstances of the country, and
the protection required by agriculture. •
Mr. STANLEY did not understand how his Right
'Hon. Friend applied his facts to the case before the House.
fle(Mr.Stanley) had said he preferred a fluctuating duty,
,but as he found it impracticable, he resorted to a fixed
one, as he considered it better than that laid down in
the Bill of last year. He bad said the Bill was disinge-
nuous in this sense, that it held out a promise to the eat
which- it did not to the mind. For instance, it pronsised
high prices mike agricultus iste; though it could not give
'them. He was puzzled to find thie how the cases quoted.
iy. his Right Hossourable Friend applied to the point last
' ear. By the Bill of last year 2s. were imposed when
e price was descending. and by this year's only Is.
e Right Honourable Gentleman had said. that the
ili
apiohibitory duty appeasing as the price sunk was lower
by Is. than in laat. year's Bill ; but the duty on the ascend
fog price w is lower by 21. Now he (Mr. Stanley) did
trot know what. was the object of Ministers in•this
euoggement•
. Ma. HUSRISSON eiplained. The principle of both
the Bdlnol last year was the same; the sum of protec.
tides Waulfeed at six r shillings osten the price Was above
,it, the admissioa of lereigecorn was allowed, and when
the prim passed siatp-four shillings, greater facilities
were gives to importation.
Mr. A. BARING said, he doubted much whether
this measure wouldfulfil the intentions which Ministers
proposed. to theitualves. It did not appear to him that
the Right Heisoarable Gentleman (Mr. Huskisson) had
answered the objections of his Honattrable,Ftiends On
that side of the Houses Ihe4lnwAir• of the It'flbt 11°a
fentlemao was, that AlZS.tbe49ty now proposed war
a virtual prohibiliuP & t ip "ha (Mr, Miring) doubted.
very much. Corn, like ether articles, would frequently
be imported at a loss, because it was in a great measure'
a gambling trade, not like others in which the profiti
were, in a great degree. U 4 and certain. The trader
in corn would take his change for high prices when a.
I)ad harvest occurred. which, on calculation, was every
0401 year. In that ;sent he obtained very 'high prices,
and could sisal agord to laic la or 291. pee cent. fiat
as throe pleading pats, like a sinsigglaw, whom

one successful voyage in. duet was eufficient to remu-
nerate fully. The Right- Henourahie Gentleman (Mr.
Huskisson) said, that at 651. the.objec,t °Cate Govern-
ment was to give increased facility for insportation. He
could not see hpw the present mesiurst • Maid 110. that
object, for at 655. it imposed a duty of 201,4134 sh
measure of last year at 6.51. laid on a duty of mar
It gave, thetefore, no additional facilities of a supply
over the measure of last year; but quite the contrary.
He wished to consult the interests of all parties, and with
that view he thought the Bill of last year a more equit-
able adjustment than the Regulations now proposed.
They had heard much about the prices at which corn
might be grown on the Continent, and much valuable in-
formation on that point was said to have been obtained
before the Committee of the other House of Parliament.
He could see no use in sending persons on the Conii-
nent to collect information as to the prices at which
corn could be grown. No accurate information on the
point could be obtained even with respect to coin
grown at their own doors. The price at which it was
brought into the market was not conclusive as to the
price for which it could be grown. The measute. while
it exposed the agriculturists to odium, did not give ef-
fectual protection where they wanted it, and gave too
much where it was not required. The House must re-
' coll,ct that an alteration had been made in the way of
taking the averages. He did not, however, know pre-
cisely what bearing that alteration had on the price.
On the whole, he preferred the measure of last year.
He was friendly to a principle of protection, even to
the full extent to which the necessity of it could be
made out by fair argument. If protection was carried
too far, the agriculturists themselves must be ultimately
the. sufferers.

Mr. Secretary HUSKISSON said a few words in explanation.
• Sir G. PHILLIPS r ose amidst loud cries of “ question°
and "go on." The Hon. Batonet espressed his belief
that the explanation of the Right Hon. Secretary for,
the Colonies, with reference to the deviation from Mr.,
Canning's Bill of last year, had not given satisfaction
to any Gentleman in the House. He contended, that
by looking at the population returns, and comparing
the 'lumber of those engaged in agricultural pursuits
with that of other classes who were differently em-
ployed, it would be found that they had sacrificed two-
thirds of the population to benefit the landed interest.
This system he conceived to be most objectionable, and
it was attempted to be carried to a greater extent than
formerly by this measure. He could not concohle, from
airy thing which had fallen from the Right Hon. Secie
tary, a hat reasons had caused him to alter his mind, and
depart from the scale of duties of last year. The Hon.
Baronet then entered into a calculation to show, that
• when wheat was 50s. a quarter at Dantzic,which would
be about the price there v•hen it was 655. here, it "could
not he imported, including 12s. per quarter for freight,
and 215.8 d. duty according to the present scale,•under
83s. Bd. per quarter, which he contended, was equiva-
lent to a prohibition. The great difficulties of the corn
merce of the country had been Owing to false principles
of trade, and, the Right Hon. Gentleman hid himself
shown this to be the case. He had 'moreover shots rt.
that the far mei s on the Continent had adopted the same
et toneous theory ; and if this conntry iteted on just and
liberal principles, they would have not the leis influence
on the Continent.—(Tbe cry of qurstiop, question,"
now became bud).

Mr. PORTA' AN observed, that looking at the re•
turns he held in his hand, be had no he,itation in saying
that the additional 'Um of 4s. was required over the
scale of last year. If any Hon. Member moved an
amendment to reduce the scale h;gher than 6(h. he
*mild support him.
The 'image now became clamorous fur strangers to withdraw
and a divkion accordingly took place on Mr. Calcraft's amendment
Fur the Amendment . . . . 58
Agalwit it

Majority in favour of the Resolutions -- 144
The Resolutions were then agreed to. The alai:man reported
progress, and obtained leave to sit again on Fliday neat.
The other Orders of the Day were then dispoeed of, and the
House adjourned at a Qu A to Two O'CLOCK till Thursday.

THE kIVENING STAR.

LON DON.

WEDNESDAY, APRIL ?S. 1828,
ST. Gemmel' 41111%.-1400 BISTII DAT KISI*4IISII,a&T

am Tux Smarr.

STOCK RXCIIANG TWRLYg o:plageL

WE have no arrivals this morning of the lesit lenportance. Theis
was a re-action at the opening of the Consol market this morning.
Consols, • which left off yesterday at 85i for •the Account. opened
at 85 to I, and immediately receded to 84g. The cause of this de-
cline is not as yet known. but it may be attributed to realiiing on
the prizes of yesterday. Consols may be quoted at present. S 4 to 11S.

Up to the present hour we have no further itemisation front the
Eau.

In the Foreign market the prices remain nominal, with nothing
doing.

FOREIGN FUNDS, TWO O'CloprlL: -
Wish 8,14. 3 pCt. RUM Ilds.lll22,sperCt. sal
Do. Ace. 59j Do. Acct. MO
31ez.nds,1825,6pCt Spanish Ms Sp Ct 11j
Do Acct 53j Do. Acit.
Portog. lids. S p C. Fr. Rents, 5 p C.102f
Do Acct. 60j j Exchange, sbf 25e
BRITISH AND FOREIGN SllA It ICS, TWO O'CLOCK.
rain.
SO 74 •
100 22$
400 400

144 12
550
544
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