Star.
London, England, 1821-09-04 00:00:00

The F oreman...-If an indulgence of this kind be
granted, I request that the witnesses may not be called
forward this evening, but that a fair time should be
allowed; because there are other witnesses who can
also identify the person who shot Honey, and who
ought to have a peep at the Gentleman. It is very
strange that the Learned Gentleman should make a
proposition now which was directly at variance with
the doctrine he held on a former evening. It seems
as if lie wished to render the witnesses uncertain, and
by that means to fritter away their evidence. I think
Wednesday evening would be a proper time to bring
the witnesses forward.
Mr. A 'M.MUS.—I have no objection that they
should—to use the Foreman's curiously selected
phrase—" have a peep at the Gentleman' on Wed-
nesday. NVlten Lieutenant Gore was examined on
the last night, it was intimated that there was a back-
door out of which he might escape. I said," I would
not give to Lieutenant Gore advice of any such de-
scription. Let him consult his natural courage: but
I will give him no such advice. If he chooses to go
out at a back door, he may." He did not go out at
a back door. lie faced his enemies boldly. He showed
that he was not unwilling to be seen by the people.
The Foreman.—lt was not a private intimation :it
was a pulslic statement made by Mr. 131akie to the
Coroner, and you remarked .km it very differently at
the time.' You said it would be a moral assassina-
tion, if a witness, called under such circumstances,
were suffered to go out without protection. We are
not so contemptible but that we know what passed.
Mr. HAssos said, he and Lieutenant Gore went
out the back wily. There was imminent danger in
leaving the house. Tile people called out, " There
goes the butcher !"
Mr. Ilrown.—Mr. Adolphus advances that which
Mr. Hanson contradicts. In making this remark, I
mean nothing offensive. I throw ni self under the
direction mid protection of the Coroner, on this and
on all other occasions, for I think his conduct is
vet y correct.
The Jury then adjourned for a quarter of an hour.
Oa their return—
The Foreman wished to know whether the wit-
nesses who were to view Lieutenant Gore were to be
prodused this evening, or on Wednesday ?
Mr. Aomenus was willing that they should come
up on Wednesday.
Joseph Somerby was the first witness examined.—
He deposed as follows:—I am a private in troop C
of the Life Guards. I know nothing lattice to the
l death of Richard Honey.
By Mr. Blakie.— Thete are eight trumpeters iii the
regiment—one trumpeter to each (loop. We have
a band. Ido not know what number the band con-
lists of. I cannot say whether it comprises '2O, :;0,
or 50 persons. I know the band does not consi:a of
1(}). Ido not kno%v whether it is neater 50 or
.111 the men in the band do hot occasionally act as
trumpeters. I believe some of them, beside the eight,
act as trumpeters. We have no hued men, to my
knwledge. 1 was on duty at Cumberland-gate on
th,; hith ult. Lieutenant Gore commanded me. To
the best of my recollection Ilene were twelve of us.
They were not all pi vat There wet e ten pi leatt,
I and two cm porals, including myself. Th,re W•t,
one trumpeter. 1 do not his name. I saw
him. Ile was a y4tin man. 1 cannot sfe di to ho
age, whether he w.ts (It more. lam whim...led.
1 received the wound on that oecd• ion. I had the
blade bone of my shoulder to:3;cil by a stone or a
brickbat, I caluot likh. lam on the doctor's
list now. 1 was taken to t::e }lapilli on the 15th.
I did not see Lieutenant (iine with pistol: on that
day. 1 did not heir him e:•.pess )..is surprise that he
had not got pistols on that ti.ty. I nil not he it him
ask any pet son to lend him a ri,acl. 1 did not see
an person lend bin-. me. 1 diould know the ti um-
pti.ti again if I saw him. Id ) not know whetlu: 1
sine the I 1 have been in the hospital
ever since, up to this day. I doo't know whether he
is a t.iil pet son. lle was n.ounted on ho: tieback
A% I saw him. I cannot say whether he is a light
or a clink man. I should not know his name, if I
were to hear it. lam sure of that. We have not a
trumpeter of the name of Jones in our regiment.—
Thele is a musician of the name of Jones.
1;v Mr. ADOLVIIU.4.-1 was at Cumberlandaabate'
s\lioll 1 received die wound, which laid me up ever
since. I received my wound just after the hearse
had come through. It was not a single stone thrown
at ne•, but a volley of stones or brickbats, 1 don't
knew which, thrown at us all. There had been no
lining whatever as 1 know of, before I received the
wound. I was struck senseless. Up to that time
there had been no firing at all. I saw many men
struck beside myself: I mean soldiers. I went into
the hospital on the 15th. When I went home on the
1 hth, I thought it was only a blow, and would be
better in the morning ; but 1 fa nod, when that time
arrived, that I could not move my arm, and I was
ordered into the hospital by the doctor.
By Mr. Brown.—We have no trumpeter of the
name of Jones, but we have a musician of that name,
who occasionally blows the trumpet. I don't know
whether he ever goes out with a detachment. I am
not sure that he was not the wan who was with us
00 the 11th.
By Mr. do not know Jones's christian
name.
The witne,s's evidence was then read over to, and
si:med by him. Ile added, that they had no boy
trumpeter of the name of Jones.
An individual, who had before interrupted a wit-
ness, by desiring him to speak louder, now addressed
the Coroner. Ile said that he appeared there as an
advocate, having clients, and the interests of clients
to protect. He then complained of the situation'
he occupied at the bottom of the table; and
obsetved, that if Mr. Coroner had taken that sort
of notice of his card which he might have expected,
ha (the speaker) should have occupied a better place,
a: the other side. Other parties (not on the Jury),
but interested in this business, had been perfectly ac-
cotnmodated ; and he did not know why he, coming
in the character he did, should not also be considered.
CortoNEa.—Why, you are close to the Jury, and
whale can you be better placed ?
A Juror. For whom do you appear?
The individual answered, that he was not bound
,to give up the names of his clients, and no further
notice appeared to be taken of the matter.
Joseph Hitchman was then called.—l am a private
in troop C. I know nothing concerning the death
of Itirlard Llouey, wept that I was out with the

party on the 14th. We were placed at the top of.
Oxford-street, by the gate there—the gate that goes
out of the Park into Oxford-street. That is, I be-
lieve,
Cumberland-gate. I was on both sides of the
gate. I was placed there before the Procession came
within sight. We being posted at the gate to keep it
open, I believe it was for the purpose of the Proces-
sion passing through. I kept the gate open as well
as I could: what prevented me was, that they were
throwing stones; the people who were there; they
were coming to shut the gate. Our orders were to
prevent them from doing so. They attempted to
shut the gate; I do not know who they were; 1 could
not tell who they were; they were on foot.
Mr. Mown suggested that this man, being one of
the party at Cumberland-gate, might be implicated
by answering such questions as were now put to him.
The CORONER observed, it could not very well im-
plicate the man, by answering such a question as
whether they who assisted were gate-keepers or not.
Witness.—The crowd rushed up, and would shut
it. They did so once or twice : we endeavoured to
keep it open as long as we could. They endeavoured
to shut, and we to open it.
CORONER.—Taking care, as you have been di-
rected by a Gentleman, to say nothing that would
eliminate yourself, tell us what took place in your

own way
Witness.—l did my duty, as I was ordered to do.
I was orde:cd to keep the road quiet. The non-com-
missioned Officers gave me my orders. Mr. Gore
commanded my party or detachment. I belong to
the C troop. The trumpeter belonging to our troop,
I believe, was not there: the trumpeter who was there
did not belong to our troop. I can't exactly say what
trumpeter was out upon the party. He did not come
lout of the barracks with us. I don't believe I know

the trumpeter's name.
The Foreman.—Recollect.
By Mr. Brown.—l don't think I recollect a trmn,
peter of the name of Jones. I might know a man
belonging to the band of the name of Jones ; but I
cannot recall him to my mind now exactly.
By the Foreman.-1 don't know that I should know
the trumpeter again, if I were to see him. Tile trum-
peter who was out on the Inh, with the party at
Cumberland-gate, I have heard, was a boy. Of my
own knowledge I can't tell how old he maybe.
The Foreman.—Was be 20 or 30 ?
Witness.—l should think he was under 20. There
wa. nothing remarkable in his person or general ap.
pearance, to my knowledge. I cannot say how old
he really is.
Mr. Brown thought it necessary that Mr. Coroner
should use his endeavours to ascertain the name of
the trumpeter.
The Foreman.—Should we not refer to the trumpet-
major to get at it?
Mr. Gall (a Juror).—lf you do, the trumpet-major
will refer you to the master of the band ; and the
master of the band, perhaps, to some one else.
By a Juror.—l have attended no examination before
.
thk, that 1 recollect.
Juror.— Recollect yourr.clf ?
Witat.ss.—Not on this footing.
Jaror.—This fiioting ! Have you been examined
since the 11th of Atigtrct ?
Mr. AtioLro us suqgesied that the question should
he shaped difTeientiv, because, in fact, witness had
Sunday week undergone an examination, but on
a diarent subject.
The Juror objected to alter his question, which was
put as he had originally propounded it.
Witness.-1 have attended no prior examination,
nor been prepared for this examination in any way,
as touching an Inquest held in consequence of the
death of Honey, since the 11• th.
A Jinor.—Have you ever been examined or talked
to by Officers or Gentlemen in plain clothes, concern-
ing. the examination?
Witness.— No. In no part of the 14th of Angust
were I and the men under Lieutenant Gore drawn
up in Cumberland-street. To the hest of my know-
ledge we never went out of Oxford-street. I am posi-
tive that nobody gave me orders not to tell the name
of the trumpeter, if I should be asked it. I have re-
ceived no orders whatever to that effect.
By the Foreman.—l did not see Lieutenant Gore
with any pistols on the 1 Ith. I cannot say whether
he borrowed any of any person on that day. I mean
to say, that I don't know whether he did. I heard
tiring at Cumberland-gate on that day. I never saw
a man shot on that day near the gate. Lieut. Gore
did not wear a cloak on that day; he had got none.
The way I know that is, because I was on the side of
the corporal when be rode up to him, and asked him
whe:her he would have his cloak ; and Lieutenant
Owe said, " No ; I would rather be without." I have
not said there were not many people at Cumberland-,
gate, as the hearse tried to come through. I did see
several stones and brickbats thrown at that time, and
1 felt them. The throwing of the stones was before
the filing took place. We were all almost stunned.
By Mr. Blakie.—l have said we were ordered to
keep the streets quiet. We did so as well as we could.
—We endeavoured to do our duty; we ordered the
people to get out of the way, to let the Procession
pass. They did not get out of the way till we forced
them to do so. What the Jury is to understand by
" lotted them," is this—we rode up to them and
pushed them out of the way ; they would not get
out of it by fair means. They hallooed and hooted,
and called us everything. I can't exactly say what
it was, because the confusion was so great. They
called us everything but gentlemen. They did not go
away by this pushing until, in some time, the party
began firing. I was stunned and retired. I don't know
whether the people went away or not, in consequence
of their being so pushed.
Mr.Blakie.—Don't you know, Sir, you wereobliged
to use other means besides pushing ?
itness.—We were obligated to ride over them
and amongst them, when they did not go.
• Mr. Blakie.—Ay, you see, we shall get at what'
you did by and bye.
Witness.—At the time we so rode over them, I saw,
to my knowledge, no person knocked down. I mead
of the mob. I saw some of my comrades use their
swords on the occasion; fur we were obligated to
use them. We used the swords ; 1 cannot tell you
exactly how.
Mr. Blakie.—Did you cut at them ?
Witness.—We cut about a good deal, on purpose to
4, have" the people get out of the way, so as to let
the hearse pass.
Did you sae persou cut 041 that ugc:tu