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mother. was at Pesaro a it* thus. Ste
13kbaliell fur ihe was *rays W.- I ehierilenew the
of Intim'. ineva saw her at Pawn. •
• Re4senusesd by Mr. Tama&
You' were askdhether you had ever sees Itsweall's
at Panto have e
ye ever. seen Your own. thrnee?--Niecr
never came te Pesaro.
• You have been asked whether any English Ladles visited
Princess at Rome, ac, lOU know whether there were any Engl.
Ladies of consequence at that time in Rome do not bun
What part of-the year are you 'peak ing of 7—The months
June and July.
Is not that the season when the Wadi& prevails at Rome i
—Yes.
When you were at Pesaro were there any.Englieh Ladies of
consequence there?—
Zrone.
Neetimed by the Lords.
To Lord ELLENBUROUGH.—SchLivini set out for Rome
in the evening, after her Royal Ilighress, with the luggage.
To Lord LIVERPOOL.—Faustina was, I thick, charged
with the effects of the linen ; but it does not belong to me, and
Ido not recollect it. It is not my department.
To Earl GREY.—I did not know Sacchi when I was in the

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stela • and it was as a question of privilege alone that be con.
tele stets;
the correspondence had been ordered to be bid before
a Select Committee. The appointment of that Committee was
not therefore, he conceived, any objecdon to recalling and.
esamining dr. Powell, with respect to the alleged. obstruction
of justice; but he would not consent thatthou the should be called,
on an abrupt motion for that purpose, wit any special ap-
plization having been made by the Counsel for her Majesty.
Lord DARNLEY did not know with what aoppearance of
justice, their Lordships could refuse the request of Counsel to
examine Mr. Powell at the Bar. He fully concurred with his
Noble Friend (Lord Holland) in his observations 'tin the whole
of this unfortunate case; and he would repeat his words, that
it was a disgusting and contemptible proceeding. In this opi-
nion he was more and more confirmed every day. They were • -
row three days without having done anything—(A laugh).—
lie would repeat it, that the last three days had been spent in ._ Tic.t.)L_crdELLEN lar lu. ee ...
doing nothing. He did not hr.pute this as blame to any party '
in particular ; it arose out of the nature of the case, and he was
now firmly convinced, that their difficulties on the subject
would increase daily, and that they would never arrive at any
satisfactory conclusion—Wear, hear).--When be came daily
to that House, and saw the paraphernalia by which they were
surrounded, be doubted whether he was not waking from some
feverish dream : ,
Ac *vita in sonata( oculos obi Mogul& pr essit
Nock quits, nersicquant avidos extendert carats .
relle vitleniur, et us rnediis conaribus mgri
Succidintus ; non lingua valet,non carport note
note
wirer, nee sot nee verba seettuntor !
*near Lordships would excuse him from pressing the quotation
further. He (Lord Darnley) must repeat, that it was his firm
belief that this proceeding would neirat come to any satisfactory
conclusion ; and he was sorry that the majority in which he was
a while ago (a circumstance which seldom occurred to him) was
not one for getting rid-of the proceeding altogether !--(Hear.)
The LORD CIiANCELI.OR put alt g that Mr.
Powell be now called to the Bar, which was negatived without
a division.
Mr. Baouseatost.--My Lord, we will sow call another WILMS&
.11111611ANDRO OLIVIER* was called is, and examined by Mr.
TYNDALL.
I have limn in the service of the Viceroy of Italy. I was Co-
lonel of Cavalry. I served in the campaign of Russia. I was
taken prisoner there. I returned on the 16thisf February,lBls.
I was afterwards in the French army. I was Colonel. I was-
first introduced to the Princess of Welts in November 1816,
while she was at the Villa &Este, by the Baton Ci:valetti. ---
I afterwards saw her Royal Highness at Rome, in 1817, when Our Readers will see by the proceedings 9f yes-
else came and remained two months. I think it was in the month terday, that the motion which we suggested in the
sf June. Her Royal Highness many times did me the honour of
me ble. of No- star of Monday last, as necessary, old indispensable
admitting
scriber. I visited to her tahcr on t She invited
he 11th Nov. Sme in the month
he was then living at the to the ends of justice, was made by the Marquis of
Villa Caprini. A proposition was made for me to join her ,
Royal Highness's suite, as one attached to her Court, without 2-,ANSDOWN, that a Secret Committee should be ap-
any employment whatever. I was to receive salary. I "rved pointed to inspect, and report on, the correspondence
between Mr. POWELL and Colonel BROWN. So far
in that capacity until the 4th of November, 1818. I had the
honour of being named her Royal Highness's Chamberlain.
Bartolomeo Sagami and myself were joint Chamberlains.— as this goes it is pnwer ; and it must fill the nation
I continued in office until last February. Ido e e
not reciv any
with
pension or salary from her Royal 'Highness. . I have not re- wonder that a single objection should be offered
caved any since I left her Royal Highness. lam a married to a proposition so reasonable: but more is demanded
man, and have a daughter. My family lives at Rome. They ,
1817-
raver were at Pesaro when twos there. I live with my family. oy " substantial justice," namely, a Committee to
I recollect her Royal Highness being at Rome in August, examine into the truth of the conspiracy or conspi-
She then set out froin Rome to Senegaglia. I supped with her
racies formed, ,
Ruyel Highness that evening. She set out CET her journey about and as we think, still existing, against
mktnight. I handed her into that carriage. It Wil a chariot— the QUEEN. We ask, whether a single instance can
affEnglish chariot. Besides her Royal .Highness, the Countess
Mil, and the Chatr.berlain Dergami got into the same ear. be adduced, from the history of this or any other
riage. Vassali was on the same journey, and Lieutenant How- country, of a conspiracy against a member of the
ram. I saw them, and I bowed to them. I did not travel on „
that occasion with them. I knew the carriage very well. Carlo Lsoyal Family being openly. denounced before any
Forte rode as cornier cn that joarney. tribunal—before the highest in the Nation—without
At the time you were ioint Chamberlain, what were the
manners of Bergatr.i to her'Royal Highness?—The conduct of Prompt measures being adopted, not merely for the
a respectful servant. safety of the.lllustrious Individual, but for the pu-
Did you see anything improper or indecorous in his conduct
towards her 1--Never. nishment of the traitors; excepting only when the
When her Royal Highness was at Rome she was visited bY Rulers themselves were engaged in plots to overturn
several persons of the first Nobility. Cardinal Gonsalvi, Car-
the M c y, .
vin al Ruff°, Cardinal Dedonir, and Cardinal Cachaviati, the onar has in the conspiracies which destroyed
Baroness Aralriani was dame d'
honneur to her Royal Highness. CHARLES of England and Lows of France?
Did you r see her Royal ilighuess in company with his
Holiness the P e eeope?—Never. These cases we cannot consider in point, and there-
Her Reyal Highness, while at Pesaro, was visited by all the fore we press our question, Can an instance be slieven,
first Nobility there. I have seen her Royal Highness, when
nor to that which now agitates the Kingdom, of a
walaine, take the arm of persons of her auite—l have had that P
bee- our. conspiracy ag3inst, not merely a member of the Royal
What was the conduct and demeanour of her Royal Highness
te persons of her suite?— Affable, and at the same time noble and ramoy, but that member the Queen Consort—and
dignified. After her Royal We:linen rose in the morning, all the not merely Queen Consort, but in the direct line of
p.reans of her suite attended her. After breakfast she gene-
re:ly to
an airing in her catriage ; and on her return paesaa succession to the Throne, being denounced, and every
her time in her library, or in writing. She had society at her engine not being instantly set in operation to detect
own
dung.
Di you ever see a carriage at Pesaro, belonging to her Royal the conspirators and bring them to punishment?
Highness, with au apron to it ?—I never 55W such a carriage. Nay, we must put our question still more forcibly,
Csrats.crantinei by the Areoans.ar49astereat.. Was there ever an instance cf this kind before, in
0.: what country are you a uative ?—I was born at Tivoli,
but have pawed the greater ran ef my life at Rome. which the Ministers of the Crewn not only did not
To other questions rut by the Learned Gentleman, witness use the powers entrusted to them for the protection
' said-1 remained in Frit!CV till the cud of the year 1515. and I •
vireo Rome in 1816. I throe in the aim) when I left France. of the person conspired against, and the punishment
I remained at attain frome beginning of 1816 till November, of the criminals, but lent themselves to measures cal-
-1816. All my family was at Iliene at the time I was away
from them, because I had had command of a Regiment, and i culated to obstruct and prevent the crime being
had accounts to settle there. When 1 was with the Army, I brought home to the conspirators and their agents,
was in the Regiment of General Here. I was in that Regiment
after the battle of Waterloo, at the retreat of the army up to their he pretest that the manner and eans offered for
the time it was disbanded. I entered the French service after conviction agree not with "hem rules qf evidence
my return front prison, in Russia.
Were you in the service of the King before the retorn of Do- adhered to in Me Coerts below ?"—No, forsooth! her
nosarte ? Never. MAJESTY being now upon her trial—her degradation
Not in February, I ins ?—No.
In what month, then, did you. cuter the French service being sought by a Bill of Pains and •Penalties.7-by a
In May. measure unknown to the laws—the forms of law are
What regiment was it you went to Milan to settle the ac-
counts of ?—The Dtagoons of Arcola. to be interposed, to prevent any exposure: of this kind
I went to Milan, and tatu t went to France. The Aus- during the trial !!
Irian Govettament had given me an exi ress commission for
set tliog the accounts. In November, 1816, I was first intro- Now we beg to ask, of what avail will such an ex-
dated to the Princess at Como. knew llerganti then for poiure he -after the trial, if by this hiding of evi-
the first time. When I saw her Royal Highness afterwards,
at Rome ; it was the first time after 1 had seen her at Rome. At dence—this obstruction of substantial justice—her
Pesaro it was first proposed to me, in November,lBl7, to join MAJESTY shall, in the interim, be unjustly con-
her suite. I ley Royal I lightless ordered Berg ami to propose it to
use. Ile said so. When I first joined het Royal Highness, I bad demned ? If, indeed, our Ministers, who have found
nu fixed employment. I became Chamberlain on 4th Nov.lBlB. SO many difficulties to the admission of proofs of the
I continued ler Chamberlain till last February. I quitted her
service at Mime. I sin in England about two months. Iconic conspiracy of the QUEEN
ed 'S enemies,
meanhad, as in d
bjuty
in company with the Count Schiavini. Her Royal Hhness bound, instantly institut other s, unoec-
has done me the honour to allow me to remain in her house
slam I came, but lam not in her service. The day after tionable to themselves and the nation, to be carried
I arrived, she sent fur me, and offered to allow me to stay
on simultaneously along with the suit which they
at her house. Sehiavini came with me from Pesaro. I re-
meined in an estate of mine till I came off for England. I have
have instituted, and to be brought to issue be-
been indemnified by her Majesty's Advocate for my expenses. fore it, then might we give them credit for every
litre Mr. lisouenast asktd the Interpreter the exact trans-.
!actor. of the word which he had translated' Advocate'—ilvecato. profession they have made, of seeking nothing but
The Interpreter said the wtoei meant anybody
in the Lily' " substantial justice ;" but to talk about a love of
A Lawyer, or a Qouasel--(al lough),--or a Judge—(Great
lash:Her). justice, being in pursuit of nothing but justice—no-
sV ao applied to you to come to England ?—Nobody. I thing but truth—and to hope to gain credit with the
wrote myself, for I thought it my duty to write to the Qneen
when I saw by the newspapers at Lugane that this process was Public for sincerity, while they themselves institute
going on. I saw Bergami at Rome, when I was in the service no measures to probe to the bottom it denounced con-
of her Royal Highness, I have not seen him since.
Have you received anything besides your expenses 7—None. spit acy, is an exhibition of wisdom that can only be
I received £B5. for my experts: s. I was at Comu once in Nei- equalled by the goose which, when frightened, bides I
• vonber, 1816. In the journey from Rome to Senegaglia, Mr. , 1
Tlownatu and Va.ssaliwere in seperate carriages. Louis Bergainii its head only, in a hole, and imagines that no one can
was on that turney. Schiavini set out on the following daN. I then see any other part of it. . 1
I think two or three carriages accompenied that of her Royal
Highness. I know the courier Sacchi. I did not see him set Let it not be said that Ministers, in the circum-
out on that occasion. I swear I did not. I saw Carlo Forte Forte stances in which they now stand, cannot enter on
ses out, bet I did not re all the couriers set out. Logy set
out from the Villa Grande. I saw Sacchi almost entry such an inquiry ! Let them keep, in memory the
time at the Villa Grande that I had the honour to dine at het I old maxim of law, that those who hide treason- be.
Royal Highness's house. I slo odt know that he was always a .
for I have seen him in the divas of a hussar. Arichiana, ;come parties to it in the eyes of the law. Conspi-
courier,
one of the Priacess'aladiescontinned wuh befall the time Aerie racy against the life of the Queen Consorrof England
at the Villa Grande. I have alwayi seen her there. On the daysand '
/ want tardier there, I don't recellect to have seen any English —conspiracy against the character repntatron 4
Ladies but I hive seed some oI the Roan= N
.-- 414' there' 'the Queen Consort of England, is treason by statute.
Louis 'Sagami sometimes .lined with bet Royal Highness
.at .
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..me. is c4argeos, and !et. 14.10. ste.Fs.. i2a..Ye. not

Army.
By the Earl of LAUDERDALE—Wbern;46.,I
Lugano Newspaper which iuformed you of 411
'against the Princess ?—At Rome.
The witness was ordered to withdraw, and it
'Four o'Clock, the Loan Cnaticitu.on adjourned the
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THE QUEEN.

bet Royal Bigkeess 2—l ak4.

as, it the Primate and Va.
must have seen k?—l did.
any kissing take place ?
, to the question.
as witness to contradict a witness
4 part of the all, and Janis* be
witness was quim.certain of what he
The LORD CHANCELLOR.—.If a witness gives a &est,.
answes,to equation,. he must be supposed to speak pagtircly.
Cress-ezentined by the Sourteoz.dtxteAt..
How many times have you conducted' her Royal Highness
boa Como to her Villa?—Precisely, I nna say ; but 1 c-n
eat positively ten or twelve times.
you swear yowhave not conducted her twenty timer?
It might be still MOM hot I cannot say how many.
When yea conducted her Royal Highness from Como to the
Villa, how many boatmen were there generally In the boat
Generally ten.
Was it after the Theatre was over at Como that you usually
ecinducted her Royal Highness ?—lfes, I conducted her to is&r
Villa.
Was it then night 7—ln the evening--nlght.
Was part of the boat where her Royal Highness sat separated
from that where the boatmen were?—The boat was joined, but
there was a division in the middle.
Was it on one Side of that division that the Princess and Ber.
i•
sat, and on the other tbe boatmen ?—Tbe boatmen were
e fOre-part, and her Royal Highness and licrgami behind.
So that her Royal Highness and Remand had some of the
boatmen on the en. side, and some on the other ?—Yes.
Wm there any covering over the part of the boat where lve
Highness and &naval sat?—lt was covered at the top,
and had glasses in front and behind.
Had it an/ curtains?—There was one curtain In front, and

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..ry;iltlo everything in their power to prevent,
on the trial of the Quarg, the production of evi-
dence offered to prove the conspiracy ; because, for-
sooth, the rules of evidence in the Courts below
would not permit this, though this trial is not in a
Court kelvin, though such a Court could not take
cognizance of such a suit, and though they them-
selves have not instituted any:proceedings against
the conspirators. Had they done this—as in duty
they ought—then, indeed, there might have been a
semblance of the love of substantial justice, if, when
objecting to evidence, they had had the power to
say, send this to the trial of the conspirators, and let
the result of that trial be reported to the High Court
of Parliament before it decides on the Bill.
It has been already admitted, by the highest legal,
authority in this kingdom, that an "impart:Lk iidury"
to the cause of the QUEEN has been done by sending
off one of the witnes-ies. Will it be denied by any
person of common understanding that, if possible--
for it is impossible to repair what is irreparable—if
possible, a tenfold injury is done to the QUEEN by
refusing to hear witnesses in this cause, in proof of a
conspiracy against her MaJzsTv, while, at the same ,
time, Ministers have neglected—though they have
the power, and though it was their bounden duty—
to institute such public means of investigating the
business as might at once have been effectual for the
end proposed, and satilactory to the Nation ?
“ England expects every man to do kis duty!"—
England expected this before, but hitherto England
has been disappointed. England demands substantial
justice. England demands not merely the exposure,
but the punishment; of the conspirators against the
QUEEN CONSORT !
It is reported that a Courier, who was yesterday
landed at Dover, by a fishing-boat, from France,
along with two other foreigners, was Rastelli, the
gentleman sent off by Mr. Powet.r. on the 14th ult.
and that he reached town last night.
SEVENTEENTH DAY OF THE DEFENCE.
HOUSE OF LORDS.
The House met this day. at the usual hour, and Prayers were
read by the Bishop of Balm:-
While the Clerk of the house was reading over the list of
Peers, the attention of their Lordships was called to a New
Sealand.Chiel, who had taken his place below the Bar. Ills
face was tattooed with most curious devices, and excited the
notice of the Lords, Spiritual and Temporal, much more than
the business of the House. The stranger seemed quite uncon-
*dolts cif the cause wikth attracted so much attention.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, the Order of the House
could not be obeyed, unless their Lordships kept their seats.
After a lapse of a few minutes, and the tattooed stranger had
been introduced nearer the bar, and received the congratulations
of many Noble Lords, the Clerk was enabled to proceed in
calling over the list. Some wag circulated a report that it was
Mahomet, who was mice to exhibit the Moorish dance!
- At twenty-five minutes past ten o'clock Counsel were called in.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE alluded to the evidence o!
Lieutenant Ilownarri, in which he stated that he hid the di-
ploma of a Knight of the Order of Cmipline. ;lie now wished
Lieutenant llownam to be caged to the Bar, end produce the
diploma. . .rit f; '- .
The LORD CHANCELLOR inquired of the Counsel for
her Majesty if Mr. Hownane war in attendance?
Mr. Baouctun said,- Lieutenant Ilownam had been in at-
tendance every day, ready to produce the Diploma. He was
not now present, but in the course of an hoar, if their Ltird.
ships would perrnitk he eliould appear at their Bar.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN moved that Mr. Powell be
called to the liar, to produce the Extracts from his Correspond-
ence with Colonel Brown, pursuant to the order of the House.'
The Arrouni-Gmtsrue said, Mr. Powell was In the Coffee--
room, and would appear immediately.
Mr. BsotouAM handed to their Lordships Lieutenant How.:
uum's diploma of the Order of Caroline. This excited much'
amusement among their Lordships.
After a few words irons Lords LAUDELOALZ, Ilounaxn, Ord
Itenesnaes,
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, the diploma must be
produced and verified by Lieutenant Ilownam himself.
East GROSVENOR wished to *all the attention of their
Lordships M the necessity of having the witnesses on both sides
in constant attendance. There was an order nude by their
Lordships, that the witnesses for the proseeittion should attend
de die in dims. Ile thought that it was necessary some under-
standing should be had of a similar nature with regard to the
witnesses for the defence. Ile would probably have to call Sal-
vadosi again; and be mentioned the circumstance not only that'
he, but that all the witnesses, might be ready to attend at the
Jar of their Lordships, whenever they might becalletl.
Mr. Powau. appeared at the Bar with the Extracts from *-
Correspondence with Colonel Brown. lie said that it was eat.
from disrespect to their Lordships, or from any personal Teel!
inks, that be had felt any reluctance in producing the letters,
but from the peculiar situation in whish he stood, and the sense
of duty which he owed to his client.
The Earl of CARNARVON . understood that the Secret
Committee were to have the means of verily log the extracts I
from the letters, god of satisfying themselves that the whole re-
lating to the mission of %Isiah should be given.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL thought the most regular way
would be, not to ask Mr. Powell any questions at present, since,
if the Committee were not satisfied, they could examine him.
Earl DARNLEY contended, that it seas the right of any.
Peer in that House to examine every person that appeared at
their Lordships Bar.
Earl GREY wished the Papers to be handed to the Conic
miner and left with them. .
Mr. Powell was then sworn to give true evidence before 60'1
Committee, whenever he might be called upon. 1
Tomazo LAG() MAGGIOII was then called in, and eannsined li '
("Mr. Wvunt.
Where do you live?—Neu Como.
'What is your occupation?—A fisherman.
Were you at any time employed as boatman to the Princess
of Wales?—Yes, I was. .
Do you know Giuseppe Guggiare?-4 do. •
What is he?—Another fisherman, as lam.
Were you ever in a boat with the Princess of Wales and
Bergamit.-I bare.
Did you ever se* either of those persons kiss the dies In the
boit?--No.
In whit part of the boat 414 her Royal Highness 1111?"9n
the kft! • • - • •

mote behind.
Were there any glasses in front?—Yes, as well as behind. .
Who sat in the carriage beside her Royal Highness and Bergs-
mll—For the most part some women ; also, at times, tha Podesta
(Magistrate), the Prefect, the Physician, and other Gentlemen.
In going from the Theatre to the Villa, did they aot some-
times go alons?—Never ; the boat was always full of Gentlemen.
Will you swear that the boat was always full, in going house
from the Theatre to the Villa d'Este 7—Yes.
There did the Prefect live?—He sat on one side or other of
the carriage.
I ask you where he lived ?—At Como.
Where did the Podesta liver—At Como.
And you mean to say that they accompanied ber Royal High.
ness from .Como to the Villa d'Este every night ?—1 cannot say
they always accompanied her Royal Highness.kom the 'Theatre
to the Vift d'Este; but, for the most part, there were' Gentle-
men in the boat.
Who did you come over to tbis country with?--There were
Is Drat of us in ail ; I don't know precisely how many.
Did you see Count Vaasa before you came here?—l sari
him at Milan.
Did he examine you as to the evidence you were to give
here ?—Ye!.
Who examined you at Milan 7—The Advocate °Ansi.
Did he write down what you said ?—He did. •
Did you swear to the truth of 117—I did. a
Did Codazzl make you swear to the truth of it 7—He did.
How many timcs did he make you swear to the truth of ic.2
—I believe, twice.
Then did you tell a different story at these two different
times? No, I did nor.
How came you, then, to swear to the same story a second
time ?—1 have said twice, but I cannot say precisely how often.
Will you swear that you were not sworn three times by •Co-
dazzi?—l cannot say that.
Do you mean that you will not swear that Codazzi made yen
take an oath.three times ?—I cannot say precisely the times.
Although you can't say precisely, will yes swear that yea
were not sworn more than twice I—l can't swear it because I
am in doubt.
Who was there when you were thus sworn i—An Engbsk

Gentleman.
Do you know his name?—l don't know it.
Was it Henry ?—I don't know.
WAS that English Gentleman there each time you was swell?
—He was.
How much were you paid the first time you swore?
Mr. DTKMAS objected to the question, as it assumed that the
isitinss had received- something.
• The Sovicrroa-Guaimaz.—Aell, were you paid anything;;
sad, if so, how much, the first dine you swome?--No.
• Do you mean to swear that you were paid nothing?-4.11-have
received twenty Italian lines.
Do you mean to swear that you received that Ms tree time
yaw were swots?—lt was on my setting out.
Was it on your departure to come to this eillinsty, ar from
Como to Alilan?—Froni Milan to come here. ..
Will you swear that you did not receive ant WIN! beforo
braving Milan teunsetiere?T-Nothin. .
What have you recsived.since?—Noshing„ •
Will you swear that the only.nsoney yr!ti, have rKefv&d for'
mining here was the twenty litres?
Three francs and a half, added the Interpreter, are terinet
Italian litres.
Will you swear tbat you have not received, nor limn pro-
mised anything must for esoldng evidence Wieel--.11
-they give it to me lIA OM bin if they don't, I owns
voiautarily. .
That is not an answer to sty quesdon--Do yea amp. any
eking ?—I cannot tellthe Idea of the people hero, and team
say anything about It.
Are you a marrisd man, and hate you children hale
wife and childars.
Is anything paid to them ?-..-Yes..*
What 2—One livre to my wife, and half a Uwe lousy children;
Do you mean a Here a day 2—Yes.
, How many children have you 2—Four.
Do- you mean that half a Here a day is given to each child ?
—Yes.
Do you pay all ye own expenses here, or are they paid for
you 7—That I don't know ; they have fixed at two Napolcons.a
day for the. expenses.
Do you mean to say there are two Napoleons a day paid for
your expenses ?—I do not, know, because I have received only
the francs I have mentioned.
Have you any remise made you of anything besides the two
Napoleons?--That has not been filed upon.
What do you mean by the expenses being paid by two Napo-
leons a day ?—They paid two Napoleons, but we receive Rio-
thing ; and we don't know how it will turn out.
Who do you expect is to pay yon?—
odazzi.
When you saw Codasai, did you ace while the besinetst wn
see,
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going on, a young man with one eye?-0.
Who was it took down In writing your deposition, Codazzi
or his Secretary ?—Codazzi..
Was there no Clerk there at that time P.-No.
Where do you live now?—We live out of town.
How many of you are there?—About 90 or 21. I don't
exactly know.

know.
How far is it from the City ?—The or six miles.
How far is it from the house where the Queen lives?—l have
not been to see the house of this Queen.
Do you all live together in the same house?—AlL We all
dine at the same table, and breakfast and talk together.
How often have you seen Vassall and Schiavini?—Una.
Is Sandino Gurgiani there?—fie is in the house—we an all
there a fortnight, 1
Was it not at the request of Gurgiani that you came hera—No.
Re-examined by 11r.
Is there not a guard wht re you ate?—Yes ; there is a key in
every door.
Can you go out when you please?—in the house there is a
key which leeks the house ; but we go to bed at night.
For whose exienses were the two Napoleons to be allowed
—Fur victual..
- For how many T—For e: ch person.
What sari of Napoleons, gcld or silver?—Silver, four of which
sake a gold Napoleon.
Does the Government of the country require an allowance to
le made b.fore the grant of passports?
Tbe Soucnoa-GEMILLAL objected to the question, as rot
question was put in another shape: For what reason sus
the allowance made to your family T—Geoerositent has ordered ie•
Did Ouggiare sit at the same end of the boat in which yell
sat?—lle .hid. • -
At which side of the boat did Dergami sit, on the r:bbl
hand ?—Foi: the most part on the right hand.
Where bid her Royalßights's sit 7-0 a the left.

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