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London, England, 1810-05-18 00:00:00

AARTIN said, that however s.nurth be felt
to prefer his original Resolution, still he
vote for the Honourable GentleMen'e Arnett&
If the Abolition of Sinecure officipe werOoepr
ithout Any substitute it sh Arid colainlyllitiel
,port. But as the latter appeared to be indre
bLe to the opinion of the Committee, as it was.
, to have sore ;ping done in the way of reform,
he would be always ready to receive ell *hat,
I obtain, it he could not obtain .1l tle t
he would even accept the Honourable Gen-
; amendment, glad that so much good
result from the discussion which he had thought
sty to br 1g forward. The Honourable Gen:
arguea with considerable force in support of
in.,' Resolutions, contrasted with those Foe'
e the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and con-
with observing, that in proposing ilObolition
sure Offices, it could not be said that he was
mg forward any new fangled doctrine, as that ,I
ion was in fact recommended by high authoritili
years ago, and indisputedly it was more than.
necessary to accede to it under the present cir.l
eenstances of the country.
LONG maintained; that considering the de-
of y since his Ma jesty's ion, the ,
Precladce
of thmone ro e Cwn had not, increased access
from the
glience
ails disposal. He saw no advantage that
result from the adoption of the original motion,
}favorable Friend's amendment. Sinecures'
in his judgment to be confined 'solely to civil
;, and therefore he combatted the idea of grant.
el e a sinecure to Lord Wellington or Lord Nelson.
lord ALTHO RP was an advocate fur the amend:
• although his opinion was rather ie favour off
iginal Resolutions. He asserted, that the in
,ice of the Crown had increased, insomuch, that,
order to preserve the balance of the Constitution;
desirable that that influence should be reduced.
the total abolition of sinecures would meet
ippeobation. As a means of rewarding merito.:
services, which was the alleged plea for the exis-
of these sinecures, he thought them peculiarly
itable, and for two reasons ; first, because when
teritorious service should recur which called for
/aril, it was improbable that a sinecure office would
vacant ; and, secondly, because it was improbable
)uch office would be a fit reward for such service.
, W. SMITH contended that the abuses in the
Grants of Sinecure Places preponderated over any ad-
eitage which the Country could derive from their
ivance, If the claims of the individuals on
such favours were conferred by the Crown hid
to undergo the decision of that House, there ex-
_ strong doubt whether they would be admitted ;
indeed, it was problematical that if the persons about
--,infer them were aware of the necessity of subject-
them to the discussion, whether such a proposi-
would be at all made. The Honourable Member
entered into a history of authorities upon the question,
-I concluded with expressing his determination.to{
port the original Resolutions.
qr. BASTARD declared it absolutely necessary
the extended patronage of the Crown, and exten-
berthens of the people, to follow up the principle
. retrenchment in every department of the State.—
There was A ferment abroad ; and the surest way to
disarni those actuated by improper hopes was to af-
' reasonable indulgence to the great body of the
people. 'the ferment existing had not a stronger
source of supply in the thought, that whilst Commit-
- of that House were suggesting many plans
. economical reform, as absolutely necessary, the
House was in the uniform habit of not only not at-
tending, but of actually over-ruling their suggestions.
concluded with observing, that even if the House
tot inclined to be honest from principle, the time
. now come when it should be so from necessity.
Mr. WHAI.TON asserted that the influence of
Crown had of late actually diminished. He
.anded such diminution of the influence of the Crown
upon the great increase of population, and the enor.
mous increase of wealth, so very generally diffused
throughout the various classes of society in this coon-
He also instanced the great price at which lands
were let, and which corn bore.
Mr. WHITBREAD thought it very whimsical
the Honourable Gentleman constantly-to consider
sinecures as a part of -the Constitution. He did not
)iv those sinecures to be given as a reward to mili-
tary merit—no—nor to naval merit. To what kind
merit then Whys to the civil merit of himself and
friends.—(Hear, hear.) Since the appoiniment
. Mr. Yorke, indeed, sinecures had fallen into dis-
epute : a Secretaty for Ireland declared a few nights
ice lie would not take one ; and a Colonel, who
spoke under the Gallery, made a similar declaration.
- a reward for his civil merit it was, he supposed;
it Lind Liverpool had accepted the Lord Warden-
ct the Cinque Ports. No wonder men who were
without those places, declared they would not dis-
eece themselves by their acceptance. . They were
siformly given rather as a mark of Court favour,
an a reward of efficient services. Mr. Pereeival, for
stance, now accepted the emoluments of three
ifices—He begged pardon • he really had only just
heard that the Right Hon. Gentleman had declined,
I a Minute of the Treasury, receivingeeite emolu-
ments of the Chancellorship of the Exchequer ; he
had not been before informed of the fact, and there.
fore it was not to be wondered at that he had made
the mistake. The option of such emoluments ought
not, however, to be left to any man, and in his opi-
nion, as well for their integral impropriety as for their
Ntely incurred disgrace, sinecures themselves ought
to lie altogether abolished. To prove the gross mite
uTlication of those sinecures, Mr. Yorke had got
4`2700 a year, and Lord Wellington only received
..t2OOO. Thus it was Court favourites were rewarded,
even above those whom Ministers themselves decided
to have merit. He wished before he sat down, to-
tally to disapprove of the distinction which the
Learned gentleman who spoke last, seemed to make
'between the King and the people ; ;hey were one and
indivisible, and the King's best interests depended on
and sprung from the people. •
Mr. LONG said a few words against the motion.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
warmly denied that any real advantage would be
gahied to the people by the abolition of such places.
—lie also begged to assure the late speaker, that his
respected friend, the Lord of the Admiralty, than
whom no man was more respectable, had also signi-
fied his intention, without any ostentatious object, not
to take the sum of £2OOO granted to the First Lord of
the Admiralty, during the Administtatiou of Lord

Melville, as the heed of that eontesded
against leaving** WI tbe lintiee,to judge of Obi coin-
pensations to be.grainlidfolt tervicei. Were theY to
atmiNate the grtitte dee.thlg had Made ? He
FXteivkdocit. 'A gridltin Oration too, if not othei-
itise Objectionable, Was etrialli valid with anoviginal
grant. He was ,clearly of 'Optima, that the wealth
inCinfl. nonce of tbe people had 'increased in. a sWi
greater co degree than the influence Of the
Craven.
Lord MILTON had Mk* observation which be
was anxious to make. A Smecnre when once granted
must be conferred anew, whether there was or was
not a deserving petson ready to receive it. This was
riot the case with a pension. As to the influence of
the Crown, he thought it had incteased in a very
rapid degree. He was not a person whose sentiments
citild be suspected ; but he would rather consent to
be:: plundered Of his property than to give up his liber-
rties. He thought this one of those otherwise indif-
rferent titopositions, by which it was possible, by agree-
ing telt; separate those who felt *ell-grounded
discontent, fiom those who pretended to feel so. The
motion, therefore, had his support.
Mr. CANNING could not agree that the splendour
that surrounded the Throne should be dispensed with.
Not only did he mean the decent splendour which
every man must attee ought to attend upon a Throne,
but even that gorgeous splendour, which some persons
might think an unnecessary accompaniment of Roy-
alty. That rash innovator, who would wish, with
unhallowed hands, to break into the secrets of that
splendour, that he might discover how far it might '
with safety be abridged, would, he was satisfied, too
Soon discover the folly of his attempt. - At the same
time that he felt in this manner, he could not agree
that every superfluous arid unnecessary practice ought
to be defended on the ground that it was an integral
part of the Monarchy ; that they must be supposed to
be so interwoven with it as to be incapable of being
shaken off; that, in fact, it could not be touched
without danger to its vital parts. He could not go
this length, but rater agreed with his Honourable
Friend (Mr. Bankes) in his proposition, being at the
same time decidedly of opinion, that compensations
should be granted, at least tendered, in every instance. I
Mr. PETER MOORE was of opinion the present
motion did not by any means go far enough. He
was for the direct abolition of every sinecure office, as
called for, and indeed indispensably necessary in the
present state of the country. This was his opinion,
and he could not agree to any thing like a drawback
upon it. A systematic plan seemed to have been
adopted, nt.t to let the complaints of the people reach
'the ear of.the Sovereign, and in this situation of things
peculiar attention ought to be paid that the people
were not unnecessarily but thened.
The Gallery was then cleared, and on a division,
Mr. Bankes' motion was negatived, the numbers being
—For the motion, 93.—Against it, 99.—Majority
against the motion, 6.
Mr. MARTIN, on strangers being re-admitted
into the Gallery, consented that his Resolutions on
the same subject should be negatived, and those of
Mr. Perceval agreed to, it being understood that they
should have liberty to discuss the Chancellor of the
Exchequer's Resolution's on bringing up the Report.
The other Orders were disposed of.—Adjourned
at half-past one

THE EVENING S'l"Alt.

LONDON.

FRIDAY, MAY 18.

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We have the pleasure to state, that the Exchange
of Prisoners between this country and France is now
carried on, on a pretty extensive scale. Four cartels
sailed from Plymouth on Tuesday evening for Mor-
laix, having near 300 French prisoners on board,
many of whom had been in this country for several
years.—The situation of the prisoners confined at the
Royal Deptit on Dartmoor, has also been greatly ame-
liorated within the last few days : they have now li-
' berty, in detachments, to breathe the fresh air outside
the prison, to a certain distance.

A large quantity of arms are now sending to the
Spanish Patriots, but, we apprehend, not equal to
the exigency : 8000 stand are destined for Galicia
and 4GOO fcr Asturia ; but the number of men en-
rolled in these provinces, and in want of arms, is up-
wards of 100,000. The following letter ftom the
South of Spain is three days later than the previous
accounts :

" CADIZ, MAY 4.

" The desertions from the enemy are very numerous, and
many of them enter this town, who give accounts of the situa-
tion and state of the enemy very satisfactory to us. They state
the force of JOSEPH not to amount to more than 20,000, and the
whole of these, in their hearts, entertain the greatest dislike to
him. Provisions are scarre, and their clothing at present, irde•
pendent of what they took in Seville, is very bad. We are snrry
to hear that their treatment of the peaceable inhabitants of the
province is cruel in the extreme. The whole of the mountail.3
are covered with armed peasantry..
Hostile operations on our part are talked of; but I doubt if it
will be wise to move from our present situation ; it will be a
very hazardous enterprise to retake Matagorda. The French
are now improving and repairing the fortifications with the ut-
most celerity. •
" The intelligence we obtain from Madrid only confirms us in
the opinion we entertuined, and which indeed wanted no uw•
firmation, of the barbarity of the French to the conquered
people. The Spanish prisoners taken are frequently openly
butchered; and oven the quiet inhabitants, who refrain from
all offence, are made often severely to pay for what are called
the crimes of their countrymen."

Yesterday a deputation of merchants, and others,
waited on the Lords of Trade, when the latter inti-
mated their intentions as to the granting of licences
for shipping bound to the range of coats between the
Emins and Boulogne, and between Dieppe and Nantz.
They are to be granted to continue till the 10th No-
vember next. On the exportation of cotton and tin, I
the deterMination of their Lordships is to be received
on Mood?.y nett.
The Board has some indulgencies in regard
to certaip ports of Spain under trench administration.
In the range of harbours from Gijon to St. Sebastian,
it is allowed that neutral ships, laden with Spanish pro-
duce, way take their departure withoutmelestation.

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