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strangers were excluded at two o'clock in the mor•
niog, and for the remainder af the sitting the doors
*sere kept shut.
During the exclusion, we understand the followtng
iv isi on: took pl 4: e :
First, on the question of ail Amendment, proposed by the
Sterluts a LA Nopowy
For the Ailendment
Against it

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• • 102
Majority
The sestina division respected the Peerage Ri solution.—An
jimenernent was proposed for lea,iing our the exception in favour
of Nara and Military °Ricers. The numbers were—
For the Amendment - -
Against it • - 100
Majority spinet the ResOutlon, as snit
up by tee Commons
On the Third anil Fourth Resolutions, we understand, there
wit no division.
Tlie next took place 'on the Fifth Resolution, respecting tie
Royal Household. whin there appeared—
For the Resolution, as sent up - - -
For an Amendment (proposed, as we could c.lieet,
on the part of Ministers) for restoring it is its

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original shape - - - -
Majority in favour of the Resolution as amended in
the Commons - . - —IS.
On Pr/pairs being called for,a considerable debate arose as to
whether they should be alowed to vote. On this a division
took place, when the numbers were—
In favour of Proxies - - It 9
Against them - - - /02
Majority against Proxies ii---3.
Inc Report was then brought up. Some Amendments were
moved by Lord LIVERPOOL, which were negatived, and the
House adjourned at Half-past Two this morning.

97.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
TREASURY ORDER.
The CHANCELLOR of .the EXCHEQUER.
moved for a copy of a letter from the Deputy Clerk
of the Privy Seal, dated 4th January Hill, which
Was ordered.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
presented at the Bar, papers, by order of the House,
in which was the above letter. It was ordered to be
read, and stated the application of the Treasury, for
the use of the Privy Seal, and the reason for not cons.
plyieg with it ; which was, that it was contrary to
the express letter and spirit of the oath of the Deputy
Clerk,. to
.put the Privy Seal to any instrument in the
way which had been desired by the Lords of the
' 'Treasury. Ordered to lie on the table, and to be
printed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved the order of the clay for the House to resolve
into a Committee of the whole HOuse to take into
consideration the Correspondence between the Lords
of the Treasury, and the Auditor of the Exchequer.
[For Must I),,cui•erts see First Page of this Paper.]
On the question. being put.
Mr. TTEENEY approved the candid statement of
• the Right Honourable Gentleman. His objection
. was, that in•the situation in which the House stood,
by the deficiency of the Executive Power, they were
bound to do only that which was absolutely necessary.
He wished, however, to have the opinion of Gcntle-
Men better acquainted than himself with Parliamen.
• tarry proceedings. . .
The SPEAKER sail, that it would be rather dif-
ficult for him to quote precedents in the present case.
It was not, however, usual for the House, when an
t order had hepri trade fnr a rommittee to sit on a cer-
• ^ Vain day; to alter that order, and to advance the term
Of such a sitting. • Tithe House were ssilling to alter
4 that usual mode of proceeding, it was rot fin. him -tes'
interfere. the suspension tithe Kingly power.
the House seas certainty bound not to ed further
at. n necessary ; yet the House woultimreccoellect, thatl
•
during the so-pension of Regal functions at
.the Re-'
• volution, and at the restoration, a great variety of
Latter had been submitted to the House, and trans.
acted by them ; and esp•N:ially money matters, in the
. latter instance. The House, comparing these prece-
• dents, might form an opinion on the way they were
to act. They had, in fact, no other rules but the ix-
cessity of the case.
. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
saw more diiisculties in proceeding to a Committee on
the state of the Nation, than ih the mode he had re-
. commended ; • for it day being already appointed, it
could not be altered without notice.
Mr. ADAM thought the subject something more
than a mere point of-form.
Mr. W. SMITH was for a Committee on the
State of the Nation.
Mr. YORKE said, that it was admitted on all
sides, that a Committee was preferable. it did not ap-
reit. very Material under what name that Committee
saw but if it was to be a Committee on the State of
the Nat ion, it would appear to him necessary to rescind
tie tot mei order.
Mr. PONSONBY thought themode of proceedings
ilitherto adopted, had sufficiently evinced the stress
which was laid on precedents—and the House, after
duly weighing that circumstance, would not junk, it
immaterial to establish new ones. Should the House ,
'dopt the mode cf proceed:lig recommended by the
Right Honourable Gentleman. he would feel the less i
objectioti tol it, from his having explained to the-House',
end to posterity, why they were no* imperiously
tailed upon to act so. He wished, at the same time,
for an opinion from the Chair.
The EIPE,A.KER said it was against the usual form
of "the House to accelerate the sittings of the Corn.
Inistee previously ordered. The House, of course,
might alter the usual mode of proceedings. But it
•the House would adopt a middle course of proceeding,
a memorandum might be added to the order for going
on a Committee of the whole House—that aught,
mentioning that the Committee on the State of the
Islaytion. ben adjourned to Tuesday, the House had
found. it expedient w appoint a Committee of the
whole 1-.lo:oft—(.llear, hear.)—lf it was-the sense of
the House tliAt such a mesnotandurn should be entered
oq the Journals,—he certaiely should feel it his duty
.10 see it done.—(Rear.)
Mr. SHERIDAN bowed to the authority of the
Chair, but still was not convinced. He thought that
Right Hon. Gemiernan had some how or other got
into a puzzle. The Committee on the State of the
N.ttien etas not, in fact, adjourned, except to reran
progress ; they had leave to sit again on Tuesday,
but were not prohibited from sittirg previous to .hat
time, end would have to sit, in tact, should any new
r occur, for &tante, in case of the King's recovery.
miter some further conversa6on, in which her.
"kg, Mr. Lome and Mr. Resit took a share, the
• motion of the StiAlCill to leave the Chair was carried
asa. ton. and the louse resolved into a Committee of
skuole