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London, England, 1819-06-07 00:00:00

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CAELIStE. JUNE 5.
710 11111 PATRIOT.
nrc erry to state that no acconii-nocfation has yet
place between the weavers an their employers.
:be qayor and several other Magistrates met on
)10,141y at the Bush Inn for the purpose of elidea-
uaing to bring about an agreement. Five Dole.
rites from the Weavers were admitted, who gate in
i,rorasnis in effect the same as those published in our
ia,t Paper. (See the STia of June 1.) These were
,;:bmitted to the consideration of the Manufacturers,
tO:o unanimously (we believe) declared that it was
not in their power to accede to them—that if rhev
wcre to pay such wages, such is the state of the mar-
kt.t, they would sustain an insupportable loss. The
magistrates then made an attempt to compromise
ratters by proposing that each party should recede
ii.do hut the Delegates were inflexible, and thus
direct communication ended.

On Thursday, the Weavers' Committee published
A Letter to the Manufacturers of Carlisle," in which

tl.ry
4. We had hoped to have saved ourselves the dis-
E.recohlo task of defending our cause in written argu-
-rt. We had hoped to have met you personally on
:rdsv last, that we Might convince the Magistrstes,
..-our faces, of the ju,tice and indispetsable neces-
,: of our claims.—We Say necessity, because the
we have been in the habit of receiving are
inadequate for our existence, and because we
c.:::r.ta Imo on less than what we state; and even if
Mc received our demands, they would not banish
as make us comfortable : they would merely
I,p us from falling. actual victims tb that most of
•to be dreaded miseries, namely, hunger. Yet the
„.Im, boon we have requested, though just and rea-
„,,tl4, you profess yourselves unable to grant ; and
shy? Because your ambition and maddened views
giiggrandizement have blinded and perverted your
imitrstandings to such a degree, that you no more
ulderstand your own true interests than you regard
vas. You ought to know, at least, that your argu-
ments are the most futile and expungeable that we
ever knew advMiced by men affecting _a general know-
ledge of the commercial world. We, however, do
slot accuse yon of insincerity, but impute your want
ti that knowledge to the before assigned causes.—
You do not know that the value of the cloth in the
market is fixed by the price at which it can be ma!
al:Allred. Had you thought proper to have met
us on the general grounds we desired, we should
Lave cstabli:hed the justice of our claims, and the
sank impolicy of your refusal.
" Gentlemen, you are influenced so much by your
individual views, that your conduct produces effects
iiifercat from even your most selfish intentions.
Your general answer, when we waited on you indi-
siduilly, was, " I will give your demand if the rest
sill give it." You determined however, afterwards,
that you would not accede to our demands, and
thed a price at which you would pay us; which,
kOwe% r, for once was unanimous; but we since un-
derstand there was even amongst your number more
thin one that did not accede to this pretended una-
amity.—this I:tise statement of your unanimity. We
it cwt cast any reflection on the Magistrates, but on
pr representative, whoever he might be ; for the
totthy Mayor behaved in a manner that does honour
47 his character ; but, owing to a most lamentable
fact in the law, he could not oblige you to do jus-
tee. The misery we have endured, and the manner
which we have been treated, by many of your
lumber, we shall not now mention ; complaints to
you cannot avail us any thing ; yet we do think, that
vete there one spark of humanity left, though there,
right be no horror at the crimes, there might be
one remorse at their consequences."
They then repeat the terms published on Tuesday
iz the ST 1R

"If a fixed price for all the various fabrics were
cablished, the market would be less fluctuating,
rd Nlanufacturets would then know what they were
:bout. It would be liable to less depreciation ;
dear. when it could be fully ascertained what the
pods could be manufactured at, then these goods
could assume a certain value. The great purchaser,
t. the pl:,sent#ate of things, never knows what they
car. be m.:nufactured at, therefore he will not lay in
reat stock—the goods lay on the Manufacturers
teal, and, in some sense, produce what is called an
trerstocked market. If an established price was
eade, below which they could not be wrought, then
Iteesods would receive a real permanent value:
increase the value of the goods; because the
cock will certainly decrease in value when the wages
at reduced. We often know Manufacturers bring
fawn their prices when there was no diMinution in
the price of goods at market; but it invariably fol-
felts, that the moment the wages are reduced, the
Pads follow immediately. If the weavers could get
awing by working eight hours in a day, they would
'rtwork IS, therefore the quantity of goods would be
L'erreased, aad there would be fewer goods manufac-
:area perhaps: but we think it would have, upon the
foole, a tendenc y to increase the number of workmen,
st least to ensure them all of employment—For in-
lance, 100 weavers now do the work of 150; there-
fsre, ifloo weavers received a price at which they could
let a living by working 12 hours a-day, they would
sot work is, and there would be more left for the 50.
" We knew that the masters could not manuftc.

lA' good; ;n time, but then, perhaps, there are
many n•;o.ls manufactured. if ICAX) wearers, for
•
500 a week, and that sum finds
‘rn a liviag, working 12 hours a day instead of IS,
Nveald be wanted to produce the like
of goods that was wrought with 1000.—
c:'l', ?• the demand for goods were to decline to
degree that one-third could not be sold At the
pikes, could the trade not he carried t'n
t :my deduction ill thc 'nice of the labour
cmaildy, by stinting our labour--by which
the markets ‘sould be kept empty ; at resent
arc crowded %shit goods produced by
I;liwur. The low price of w iges is not
.mt or a market, but by men going,
(.!i, to get fresh stocks of riamitacture,
zo,:ls at an under price ; by there
rcdutc tlic capital of the iargc.t houses,
; • ;- ma:ly bankruptcies itt the country.--
- r,ulinilued as much as is convenient
:ix•H.; we only beg to remark, that
/,••• drl,7rnziard !v"1:,7
• j in a manna as tril nci

eon! them it &are iukistioice, since it does no good
to our own country, nor to any other : in fact, since
it does making but protract misery and wretchedness,
to gratify the venal votaries of an unjust and impoli-
tic system of trade.--By the order of the Committee.
" Carlisle, June.S, 1819." There is tintch in the above Address that is indis.
crcet, and much that is fallacious. Nothing can be
more absurd than the assertion, that the value Qf the
cloth in the market is fixed by the price at which it
can be manufactured. The charge of ambition and
maddened views of aggrandizement is insulting in
the highest degree, and will do them much harm.—
We advise these men to beware of evil counsellors
—of those big-talkers in the dark, who delight in
stirring up angry feelings, but who will be the first
to skuik from the consequences.
A Counter-Address, signed " BtoeNz," has been
put forth. The following are the principal passages;
" TO THE WEAVERS OF CARLISLE.
" No one possessed of the least spark of sensibility but must
lament your present situation—a depreciation of wages unable
to support existence, and an insufficiency of employment, which
paralyzes exertion. Under these disastrous circumstances every'
allowance will be 'made tor the momentary ebullition of irrita-
tion against your employers; and the attempt to Increase your
wages was a very natural consideration ; but the violent outrages
to which you proceeded, in taking webs already beamed and in
work from the loom, and compelling every man to quit his an-
ploymcnt, was an arbitrary and unjustifiable proceeding
They (the .Manufacturers) have latterly, I am well infarmed,
been serious losers, aud in the present situation or future pro-
spects of the market, iliac is not one ray of expectation to in-
duce an added sacrifice ; and I appeal to your reason and to your
feelings as men, whether you would wish the trade to be invol-
ved in poverty and ruin, on purpose that you might have a tem-
porary increase of your wages? It is at variance with every
principle of human nature.

- „
I know what you will answer, and I deeply feel its impor-
! ranee ; your present earnings will not maintain you, and you
cannot starve. No, fellow-beings, you cannot, must not starve !
in the hour of calamity it is the duty of every one more com-'
fortably situated to lessen your distresses and relieve your wants.
Return peaceably to your employment, make what you can, and
let the parishes supply the remainder. In this period of misery we
must one assist another, and though you should require a collec-
tion weekly, no man possessed of a particle of feeling would repine.
This is the only eligible mode in which your wants can he sup-
plied, and I earnestly advise you to adopt it. To what does
) our present conduct tend, except to increase your own wretched-
ness? Yourselves arc alone injured, and done feel its privations
and eaßtcquences. Are not the primary. intentions for which
you first ostsensibly assembled fulfilled? Have not the Magis-
trates and the Masters met, and has not the result of that meet-
ing been communicated to you? . What more do you expect to
Obtain ? Why are circulars *sent 40 or 50 miloa ,mound and
another meeting fixed for Friday, after you have received an
explicit and positive refusal to your demands ?
" Forgive me if I express an apprehension that there is some-
thing brooding ungenial to your own happiness and the public
tranquillity. In the great body of you I could have every con-
fidence; but I fear there are some turbulent, restless spirits,
meditating mischief; else why this continued restriction from
employment of the starving and famished workmen—these daily
processional meetings, and tail call from distant and unconnected
parts of the country for another General Assemblage, which can
tend only to cherish amongst the men an unnatural and unde-
served hatred of their employers. Desist, if you expect the
public sympathy, from these unworthy practices ...... ..I have
no interest to promote in either party, nor any connection to
render me partial I cannot be your enemy, fur nothing but a
fiend would deli* in human misery : my interposition arises
entirely from an anxious desire to see your distressed situation
ameliJrated Misery and poverty stalk with death-like as-
pect through every branch of our once-Eourishing manufactures;
the overwhelming pressure has struck you in its blighting career
of desolation, and rendered your situation for a time as deplora-
ble as irremediable; do not then increase its horrors—do not
aggravate Its miseries!"—(This Address was copiously posted
against the walls, but was sore torn down.)
In our last Paper we said that the demand of the
men " does not appear to us to be at all unreasona-
ble." This phrase has been misconstrued. We meant
that the amount required, was as little as men can
live on. It is certain that the men cannot remain
long out of employment. Perhaps some accommo-
dation can be effected in regard to uniform prices
and lengths. If they wei eto return to their work (as
we are assured a great portion are willing to do) and
earn as much as they can, we feel confident that
measures would be taken by the principal inhabitants
for extending relief, until some beneficial change take
place, which, probably, is not so far distant as the
desponding are apt to apprehend. How can the work-
men hope to extort their demand when it is really an
advantage to the manufacturer to suspend his business?
It is calculated that, at the end of this week, the
weavers' absence from work will have relieved the
market from at least 6000 pieces of gingham.
FRIDAY EVENING.—A very numerous meeting of
weavers belonging to Carlisle and various parts of
the surrounding dist:id (including the South of Scot-
land), was held upon the Sands this afternoon, for
the purpose of concerting further operations. At this
meeting, we are sorry to say, an illegal oath was
agreed upon, and administered to as many as could
be conveniently sworn, binding themselves not to
work for certain manufacturers, nor in any shop where
their work may be: they afterwards marched through
some of the streets, and quietly dispersed.
This most injudicious proceeding cannot be too
strongly censured :itis a death-blow to their own
cause; it will at once destroy that sympathy which
all ranks have hitherto cherished for their distress.—
Its absurdity, too, is equal to its impolicy—for it is
notorious that the weavers cannot do without those
whom they affect to proscribe : it is still worse when
we call to mind that the objects of this marked hosti-
lity have employed scores of the very men who take
this oath (not willingly we would fain believe), purely
out of charity, and at their own loss, when they could
obtain no work elsewhere ! We entreat the leaders
in this affair to reflect upon what they are doing—
thcy tread a dangerous path, and cannot see the end
of Carlisle Patriot).

Monday night, Mr. FRODE, of Rabywhaite, Mr.
(;i:.l I I AM, of the Cross-keys public-house, Dumfries,
Mr. FLitcusoN, of Oaks-hills, near Dumfries, and
Mr. PATRIC li SON, of Lochmaben, after crossing the
Solway Frith on horseback between Bowness and
.Innan, unfortunately lost their way upon the Sands,
in consequence of a thick fog, and wandered back
iuto the tide, wkich came in very rapidly, impelled
by :4 strong wind; and all perished. They were On
their return home from Rosely -hill Fair. All the
bodies have been tOund, exce.pt that of FERODRON.
Monday, a little boy, an,:..cl eight years, son of
Thoinas Balcomb, of Lydd, lest his life by getting
entangled ia a rope with which be was swinging.
LAW AanA NG F)iEN Ts.—The following new at-
range.nents in the Law, are likely forthwith to occur'
Lord CDk( Conur-iasioaer ADAM 11 to be lard Chid Beroa
of S:co.4r.d.
Sir SA,tort. Slummy retires from the *See of Attorney;
General, aid n to be Lord Chief Cetztasisdbeer of the Any
Court in Scotia:lcl.
rozsite
Sr !:..n.r ,e. tioroon is to be Atro -15eaeraL
Jot N .;INC! f :0:: l'or. _F.,. Eaq. zo be- kat:General; $11&
1 Cu.,ALts WASIALN, EMI. 10 be alder ..,1 Of Cheater.

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Thursday the Troop, ofiliiTEs tira—driThr.der
Major KENNEDT, whit+. wis detained at Carlisle (22
formerly mentioned), at the request of the Magis-
strates, Marched on their route fer Liverpool; to cm-
bark for Dublin, and were slicceeded by a Tioop of
the Bth Dragoon Gitards Comma? ded by Lieutenant
Colonel Faexcit.-4 Company of Infantry is ex-
pected in Carlisle, from Surderland.