Star.
London, England, 1829-04-03 00:00:00

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The interest- of the Clareh or Ste* certainly meld at
be beisefitte.r. I eat contemplate, my Leads, nothing
less than anarchy and hawkish' si—and he• a number
of years spew in u.h a welfare. things then certainly
would remitio in the same unsettled state, for the CM
tbolic Claims never could he permanently resisted. and
thetefotr it would be imp •litic ally long,et to delay it.
I sill ask, suppose if all those fiiendly to coseessiOu
were escludad from the Ministry, who w told thee
be capable of conducting our public affairs ? Not,
withstanding the chivalry of the Noble D ik., and
the Addresses of a Noble Earl to the Protestants. I
cannot leave the Government of the country to dieing
and with respect to the edablishtnetit of the Protestant
, Church, it has always been endaogeteJ it. all ages by
furious bigots. In the tinge of Charles I. they proved fa-
tally di,astrous to the Church. I have felt the most in-
tense sill ty on this usrj 'et. and it was net until after
mod mature consideration that I made rep my mind to.
it; and I think had not such strong ezinessions been
made u.e of, the public mind would certainly not have
been espieased so sttioigiy by P ciders. Ir was said
that 444 Popish relogi of was salperditious and idolatrous,
and then-tore all tho.e wl» soionort.thi. B:11 are super•
stitious and isiol,:rous also.. 'rise same alignment had
been P•cd he the Minium', but if it had any found,.
lion in tenth, uteri the cur e of G la was to fellow us,
not nearly for a political union, but toe any unlash.
fit a commercial union—for our union or intercourse
with China or India. with Fiance or with Italy. The
°illy ten quoted in the letter denouncing this heavy
Clef se was unelrom the Apocalypse. which had as much
to do with the .'estruction n Babylon as with this gun.
lion. I have sworn, as have you: Lordships, that dull
invocation of Saints and the sacrifice of Mess is idola•
lions, but I never meant, for I never believed, that Ca.
.holics were therefore iJolatrous. In awaking this dos
elevation. I wish to defei d myself rims any charge of
political tergiversation. I can do so with coofideoce.
f•r those opinions if mine I pet on record years ago,
iseing.then Regius Professor of Divinity of Oxford. It
was also asst, led that the Catholic religion was un-
changed, and was now the same as it had ever been.
I do out assert that any change has taken place in its
doctrine or in its faith, but I am satisfied a very in•
portant change has already taken place is the opi.
nions if those by whom it is pri ffssed with respect
to the 'envoi& power of the Pope.—lL nsi cheers.)
The Hausman/I of mankind, when he charged those
empowered in his day nub heal g deserted scriptural
truth, declared where it was wiitten; and be who had
charged all the Clergy , f England with so greet a
clime, should have imitated the Itcommaa's exampk,
and stated ahem the scriptural t nib was written *hick
he accused them of having deserted. The neat objec-
tion male to this measure is. that this question is
not to be argued on the ground of exped.ency. There
were certainly some questions which could only be sr-
geed on the gr ,und • I moral.ty and the will of Goo,
and much evil has been dons in the seventeenth ctn.
tiny on the plea of expediency. But when an act
is nut unjust or evil in itself. I think it may be
fairly argued whether it be expedient. It there be
.in committed in agreeing to the resent que.tion, it is •
•in that has long been going on. Tne Act th.t allowed
the Catholic Clergy to settle in the country, to say mass
—co buy la A, 1 need nut repeat them all, bat they all
establish the principle entertained io the measure. lam
told there is a ;peat difitience betweass those Acts and
the ptesent, but in the pe•nciple of establishing th se the
pr fession f a religion which you believe to be untrue
may be consistent a nth s..lety to the State, they both
agree. It is said, the oaths cp.,inted to be taken by
the Act may glace the consciences of Plutestants an
a state of danger, as the Catholics are not required
to denounce the spit i:u it authority of the Pope, whol-t
the Protestants are required to declare they 114.0
no spititual authority iu lists kingdom; and it has been
argued, that not requiring a 6411111111 annunciatioii foams
the Catholics. may be considered by Ptoted.uits in te-
cirgoi ion of that spiritual aettacni I. In a stemmas' 4f
the Clergy it is stated that tie oaths in the Bill are cal.
culated to lay a snare for the cooscientes of those Uri.
sersities, which take an oath denying the spiritual au-
thority of the 11•pe. This, however, is not a charge. but
an objet ion, wl.ich no more applies to the oath in this
Bill than in former Bills. to tie Acts of 1779 and
1791, the It-truina Catholics ate only required to te•
ituence the temporal ouster of the Pope—( Hear, heat.)
The objection to the oath is as old as the oath itself, or
when tile Act of 1778 was pistil. a Petition was piers
baited by Ptoictatits, who wets very ouch alarmed
lest, alter the passing of that Ac', they should be in-
volved in the guilt of pe.jury, by taking the Oath of
Supremacy. which was acquired of them; so that to
remove this objection it mould now be oe,essary to to
•peal the Acts ot 1778 and 1791. The House of Com-
mons of that day took this object into their considista.
lien, and resolved that the 18:11 of the King did not
allow spiritual authority of the Pope of K ime in this
kingdom—(Hear, hear). The pre mat Bill contained
no more recognitiou it the P•ipe's authority than that
13t11—(Hear. hear). The spiritual authotity tormeily
exercised by the Pope iu this couotty was exercised
through the SpititsalCourts, !itch were completely alio.
Limed at the time el the Reformation, and which certainly the
preeeot lidl had leo tendency to restore I mole sow to the beer.
lag this sondes will have on the Church of Reglated, sad from
the best cuasideratioo I have been able to gilt, that newt lesportabs
pare of the subject, I have some to the condones that it will not
be productive ut danger. The great deli:ream in the unbars or
the Papists sad Protestant. of this country, sad the wrong hellog
of the people against the superstition of Popery, convimat um that
tierce is no danger of its est.blisitreent w this kisigdont. I think'
the danger will be diminished. I see In the provisions of the pee.
sent Bib the dews of a brighter day for the Church of Ireland...-.
Alter the pawing of this Act tranquillity will be restaree—property
will be secured—Eaglish capital tied the retorts. el the Leaded pros
pricier. of that country will give employment, seaway mil emit .."'
fort to the people of Ireland. To the Aristocracy of &gime, Ide
tie hesitate or entrust the care of tie rights of the Coir& Let
the suited Church of Ragland and Ireland rem securely miler
your prutecrtua. lam hound to speak us this subject with ou-
tmost cautious but having atteatively considered the measures sow
before your Lordships, I have no Mintiest in vervain ay
humble bet casideet hops that It will eventually Mask Cho
campy, withuor essdaneeries the bulwarks el the Protestant
Church or *liming establishments. Upon those grounds I camel
sidelsold my support Iron the measure.
Lord SOH KitAmpported the menstwe fit amp ether reams
independent sat the sumg political re m& which hod hem shown
to exist. The feet of the Noble Duke at the head ef the Gomm•
most, together with assay who had takes the same mane, bevies
abaodemed his hunter upiniuns, was, in hie (mimics, a etrong-pre-
'umpiree in favour of the necessity of the measure. Amain. very
sows memo is his naiad was to he Mood la the coludiknee of
epistles on this sweeties hawses Mr. Put and Mr. Fos, whenever
scarcely agreed epos may ether. Ameba rues was premised
by the 'requiem maywitses by which the_irepaisr Woad if the Le.
gutsiere had decided in its lamer. Up these groeseds. which
be thought to from becusaiderable, be was reposed to support
the measure. But thaw were religious rounds is. epos width
he Mesabi it was badly called fee. He emertelned a high n.
Spurt ter the blinieters of the church, bog be did teat intr.•
with a Right Reversed Peeling who had deeeribed their on.
duct in regard to this vest:on al being se prairewortly. Hs
thought it would has. been more h. coufeeneky with their awed
iseetkias, if they had preeshed race sad goodwill towards
man; rather than have bees the ewers up of strife. Opals tbir
gr.mnd ut ju.mia also they tema'ejled open to pass the measure.
net the Ressan eabsdieofucter earnpard knaves, sad drub •
%Ming our battiest it was am eetteasetts with his ideas of justice
chat they should call wee the Memo Clarks is do &hood two
stow to gave them equal new is the Caustaistass which they