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London, England, 1816-04-26 00:00:00

sblil±ed .to borrow 191 millions? Had Ministers in
contemplation to redUce this dreadful expenditure in
any important degree ? If they reduced the deficiency
of the succeeding year to fifteen millions, this would
be the very utmost. So th it we had the prospect be-
fore us of adding fifteen millions a-year to our na-
tional debt. It had been.said that Mr. Pitt had re-
, pented at the low rate in which he had fixed the •
.• peace e,!.4blishm,mt of the country previously to the
last 1.93 T ; but persons Wb3 were well acquainted with
the °pillions of Mr. Pitt, had deeied that he had ever
exprev;,%l any regret at t i,at circumstance. He (Mr.
Grate) ha never felt any great rrspecof nvinacr
To Pitt had eater a., Pi one Minister of this
country, but it was but justice to him to say; that he
had used his utmost of to reduce the expenditure
in time of peace to a lev.4. with the income. He
had imposed taxes to this ehd--( fifer, hear, from the
Chancellor of the Exclierpier and he bad Also re-
duced the establishments to the • lowest possible
ammiet. In 1791 he institteed a Committee to in- 11
geire into tht• state of the puldic expenditure, so de- I
termined was he not to rest till he had openly and
clearly %hewn the Norse and the Coeette the grounds
on wine', the expenditure then sued!. rrotn the esti-i
mates which had been laiS belore them, not
ba suppesed that his Majesty's Ministers had taken •
any suet extended view of the finances of the coon-
try. They must have begun at the strong end ; they
have iequ:red for whet -.urn certeia services could be
performed, instead of se) My, that there was a certain
sum of which the best onus be made. On any other
supposition, it cetild not fe imeeined that they would
ktile reposed a vete or. 150,0G0 men far services
for wh c:, enls fifty millions had ever befete been de-
mended. With regard to the necessity of this tome,
neither he nor the Hoose could jntlge from any thing
hue it •ni their knowledge of the history or times past.
He could not say that a given number was sufficient
in this or that island or parrisan, but from the know
ledge that on former occesions the same number had
maintained the interests of the country. But the es-
timae.s which had been proposed and voted were
greater than those which had been voted for the same
service: in former years of peace, and bad only been
defended 1111 the supposition Unit they were the inter-
mediate establishments between peace and war. Dit
it the extent of the establishnients was defended on
this ground, it should be shewn that the possessions
in which the gteet esteblishments were kept op,
w:me expired to some dancer, which in following
years wiaild cease. ‘Vliat dangers were the nian
Lianas or the West India Islands exposed to now, to
ethich they %wild be less liable in the next yrer ?
Or it t!lete were none, why suppiet a ten:perarresta-
blislittient He could account fur char; reduction
which was promised on no other supposition tit sr.
this, that the leliniters had formed estimates which
tLey were themselves convinced were extravp gent, and
to avoid the shame of an immediate revision, they
had raised the fiction of en intermediate state betws en
peace and war, for which there was no ground either
in the nature of public affairs, or the practice of the
country. in Canada it was seia the frontier had
been cultivated, and the secutity which had been de-
rived from morasses arid forests had been taken ire ay.
But was it expcc d te_ that these forests would rise
again, or the morasses he ft -d again, so as to wet-
rant a reduction hereafter which was not now pr
Able In 1791 the Committez had aprov.at the
estimates which had bin presented by the ilinistere
witt,out aey re.lirctit a. Ott corripervier, these
rose- a with the votes if Ow pit.et,t year, the stifle-
Wes siiiking. It had been attempted to ex-
pi Cll (Lis •iderence by :..ryitig, that the pay of the
army increased, and that Itelaud had ma
bee::, ~,c.oidc,t in the estimates of that year. Yet even
by tranitee Cie whole estimate of that year, and mak-
ing iilowee:ce lor I:eland and for that expense which
had been iii-..leCentie called a dead weight oe
country, lie meant tee pensions ttr those wh„ had ter.
sea their cimetry and had bled tor it, the sum of six
millions tinly would be the result, instead of the
eel which was now demanded. The es-
timate of 1791 was R1,518,84'2. The Half pay,,
Chelsea Hospital, and Hesse Cassel Subsidy, emoun-
tA to afi-14t3,631, which being deducted, left
se) ,U 70411. The Eetraordinaries were re 280,000,
which made ,£1,350,`1.11.
l.r.e times this suns was - X4,05A,633
J;.•1 to thk, for Extra Ser7ice in Ireland
54.)0,W0.
}or Yeuctsna and Half-pay acturily paid this year 1,1153,89 4

:6,504,527
11,316,567