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London, England, 1820-06-09 00:00:00

posits (Holland), he seemed to entertain of his pie.
ppression in the countenance of Noble Lotd op.
sent mode of proceeding, compared with the part he
had taken last night.
Lord HOLLAND said that the Noble Lord was
quite mistaken if he-supposed that he had any idea
of imputing to him inconsistency: no suppositicn of
the kind had entered his head. ~
Lord KENYQN.then eiplaihert .obsetv ed,
it
ht asitaist
dwieasirthueneamioirtoast-proper uslshctoourieideferan.iithesetiwgaatsiosua
,rtes
long as there was any hoist of a Conciliatory termi-
nation, and therefore the Amite would .'do well to
consistentlyaooiencot.iild for the
gacironalspimishucmhenttimofe as it
The. Earl of LAUDERDALE deprecated any re-
it
desirable
ference to the proceedings in the other Hoiise of
Parliament, as unbecoming the dignity of that
House. J-le said that, as to the motions before the
House, he knew not which of them was prefersl7;c
on the score of dignity and consistency, but he knew
what was becoming the character- of that. House,
and he would therefore not hesitate to declare, that
the Noble Lord had, in the most disorderly. ntainei
which he ever heard, submitted as a reason to that
House, the course of proceeding adapted by the other
co ordinate power of Parliament. This .was the
ground on which they were advised to come to a
resolution different from that of yesterday. But
their own forms ought to suggest to them What v::•s
the best course to pursue, without enforcing the ar-
gument by such a reference as had been made to
the o ther House. He did not approve of the mea.
sure in which the House had concurred, and, if it
had been in his power, he would have advised. dif-
ferent one ; but, as matters then stood, he would vote
for the Noble Earl's motion.
Lord HOLLAND could not agree with the view
of the question which had been. taken by his l'S'oble
friend who had just sat dowM In .the mean:irns,
however, he t egged to assure the Xohle Baron ssho
had noticed the expression- of his countenance,. ?er-
haps because the Noble Baran kneiv he hay; J::en
very little voice by which he could give his opisiicn
(the Noble Lord was very hoarse, and spoie with
difficulty), that that expression was accompanied bi
no feeling of disapProbationr of _What the NOble B:tron
proposed. On theseciatcaryi-,wsts with Mach sa-
tisfaction he found that. the Newt Baron;-who had
yesterday voted for a Conausittee,:did-ta;a4;appristr.e
of delay. With regatd io what his Neible-Filend
had said respecting fhe notice taken Of .the proceed-
ing adopted by The House nf catiiifuins, solar from
conllei mg that disorderly, be cdiAi/ei.ed it a mo,t
cogent reason for postponing the appointment of the
Committee. _Their Lordships must 4111: aware that
their knowledge.af what was dOl4. in Wei !louse did
not rest upon the statement of any Noble Loid that
so and so had happened. 11refhad the vcites'of the
House of Commons before them, and from these
votes they knew that the , question was-post-rorred.—
How those who .contiudecilor the iaropriety of the
s.oncurrence of thetwo Ilianiesipf Parliament in the
'same measure (which lie Ceiiainly did not do) could
object to referring to ss hat was -done in the House of
Commons, was a matter .difficult to be understood.
There was no other means- of securing that conain-
rence. He could assure their -Loidslups that he ie:t
a sincere respect .for the 'digoitrOf the House. re
had nerer.beeki Member. of the other.brhrinh of the
Legislature; and hiving,' during-The whitle of his
-Parliamentary life, been a Member of that House,
could surely, as little as any person, be suspected of
wishing to treat it with disrespect. BM he atways
considered true dignity to' consist, not in persisting
in error, -but in acknowledging and correcting
There-was good sense and propilett in. the old and
homely adage, which said, that - •
1, When on& a fainlas toss his way,'
" The more he walks he's Mote astray."
Instead of obstinately continuing in an ertoiseos!!
course, the true-dignity in such a ease was to go
back, if possible, or at least _to stand still. If the
decision of yesterday was, as he contended, precipi-
tate and erroneous, the best Mode of preserving the
dignity.of the House, was to retrace their steps. For
that reason, he very much preferred proceeding on
the motion of the Noble Baron opposite, to the course
recommended by the Noble 'Earl. He wished the
ballot to be postponed altogether; and he thought
the situation in which the House was placed required
that course. Their Lordships would recollect, that
the ground on which the postponement was proposed
cNoombleetEoar;
lbudtidofnthotat,thihnekwastherseorrsv
was the possibility that some arrangement might be
yastoapaery cpeirVoes,petchte,
.swroouuladdlseafodrttohsciidchelaair.estiThlt.e
N.Boubtiet?
and held out no hope to the House that the delay
yester-
day stated, as one reason to induce their. Lordships
r r l
hwaedr were other
;to agree to the appointment of the Committee, not
only that no impeachment was intended, but that it
was impossible any impeachment could be the result
of the
o mm
investigationended,
co;uanld lead
and
that,
rs.thotheteirugre'butht teo a course
he i Le-
gislative measure. But; unless public rumour was
quite unfounded, such was not the opinion of all his
Majesty's Midtsters. If his Noble Friend did rct
call him to order for attending to anything which
id not occur in that House, he would say, though it
Might be disorderly, that he had heard out of docs
that a Cabinet Minister had said that thff referring (1
.she papers in the greeis bag to a Committee, woc:i
'he followed by an impeachment. This he states!,
obocfocluloodrsni.st.bThee CQpnroatraditig
ctioned, that he had heari
was altogether ire
cdniisteut, and only • calculated to expose the Go•
verriment tcothat contempt which, according to the
words of Bill.of . last Session, it was necessary :0
portent.. It was impossible the conduct of Ministers
should . not ocdasion irritation--(Hear, hear).—
They •cobld.not tell what to- do, but came down t`
throw on. the House .all .the . responsibility of their
tbeir.
toLorprdocsheeipds.
6314;thatseti h°direcst.tat
how
them
shield
too. was done' al ti rne When it was very probable
the opinion of the. House might be placed in a cos.
flicting position.with-that of the other House of Par-
ent; and when one Minister says there can he
no judicial prOceedings while another asserts there
L
J may be one. Ought their. Lordships to proceed to
the appointment .of the-Committee,
when it appear,
,that the Ministers had not yet made up their mir."
'As to the coursetO be pursued ? Yesterday the ArlWe
responsibility was thrown •on their-Lcirdthips. of
proceeding which it Was now proposed to relinquisili