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compliment from the Nt.ble Earl, he hoped he would.
call him a Noble and not a Learned Lord. If any pet.
son impugned the character of the petition from Slit re-
ditch he would like t., present him face to face to the
deputation, who had that morning assured him that it
had been properly sign d. The Noble L^rd, in pee-
-1 scatting a petition framed by himself, in favour of •he
Catholic Claims, had said that he never had enteitlixed
a doubt upon the subject. He (Load Eldon) to iged lot
an opportunity of trying, once fir al , how much the
N .ble Loud knew of the subject n *hich he did tot
entertain a dusbi—(A laugh). The House of Comm, its,
considered constitutionally, was embodied to represent
the great body of the people ; but doe regard, he would
repeat, due regard was alto to be paid to the sense of
that body; and within his ri c Ilection he did not re-
member in the last half century any instance in which
the public mind was so much agitated as at present—
(Hear). Doting the period when the famous India 13111 •
was brought forward, pet•tions acre poured •n against
it, and those w!.o proposed the measure said that .f Ilse
petitions wete signed by every name in Enician.t they.
would not speak the sense of the people. A disco trims
of Parliament, however, followed ; and then those wl o
asserted formerly that petitions did not convey the sense,.
of the country continued saying that the reople TC!'e to
a state of delusioii, and that it was impossible to rec,ver
them from that state. He would only add, that he would
' present no petition witliout examining both its matter
and its manner; and•he felt confident that their Lord-
ships would hear with great pleasure th.r, although he
bad presented fifty-ore of the seventy petitions he had
at home, their number had increased so has: upon him
that he had now more than a hundred for presentation.
The Earl of DARNLEY presented Petition, in favour of the
Catholic Claims from the city and c gamy of Canterbury ; front
the Protestant Dissenters of Blackfriars chapel, in the city of Can- •
terbury; from the Roman Catholics of the county of Meath ; from
those of Cauktown, and from those of Rathboyne, in the county
of Meath.

Earl SOMRRS presented a Petition to the ume effect from the
city of Hereford. The Noble Lord observed that he hid king
entertained the opinion that it would be impossible for his Majesty's
subjects to unite for the benefit of the empire until the diubilities
of the Roman Catholics were removed.

The Duke of GLOUCESTER said he rose to pre.
sent a Petition from the bankers, merchant., and other
inhabitants of the city of Gloucester, praying for the
removal of those civil disabilities which affected the
' Roman Catholic subjects of the King. Hieing during
the last Session of Po'lament fully stated his opinions
upon this most important question, it v.s scarcely ne.
cessary fur him to declare that he perfealy concurred
in the sentiments of the petitioners, or that he hailed
with deep satisfaction the prospect of justice being at
last done to the Roman Catholics—justice which had
been too lung delayed. He hoped, however, that no
half measures would be adopted, for he conceived that
halt measures would be now most dangerous. He curio
ce ved that no measure could be devised 11.010 likely to
produce powei, prosperity, and happiness to the wh le
empire, and, at the same time, to give security to the
Established Church, and stability to the Burnie. He
hoped, however, that it would be accompanied by too
other measures—first, that the Roman Catholic priests
should be paid by the Government—all nu cry Against
the principle of paying two churches would then be at
an end. By this mode we should also have a better
class of persons in the pi iesthood. He also hoped Vial
the measure which his Majesty's Mini tats meant to in.
traduce would place the Roman Catholic C loch of
Ireland under the authork of the King, as the K imam
Catholic church of Hanover now was.
The Esri of CAItNARVON presented Petitions to the sauna
erect from Southampton, and a parish is the county of Somerset.
The Petitions were ordered to be laid upon the table.
The Earl of WINCHI LSECA presented Petitions against the
Claims of the Catholics from Towcester and Bassingbant, in the
county of Northampton; from Sazonby, in the county of Lia.
coin ; front Pelpham, in the county of Susses • from a place in
the county of Stafford; from Crewkerne, and a hundred in the
county of Somerset; from Cardigan ; from Llanwennoc, Llande.
fra, and several others in the county of Cardigan; front Traver.
den, and several other places in the county of Kent ; from Green.
wick; front Hatrietsbaw and Mereworth, in the county of Kesit;
from Littleborough, in the county of Bases; from a parish in the
county of Suffolk ; from Acton. in the county of Armagh; from
a parish in the county of Limerick ; from Garvagh ; from a pa-
rish in the county of Tyrone; from two parishes in the county of
Armagh, and several ether parishes in Ireland; also front War.
sington, in the county of Lancaster, signed by several hundred
persons. The Nubk Earl observed, in reply to an observation
made by Lord Darnley, that with respect to the facility of obtain-
ing signatures to Petitions, the Noble Lord had not found such to
be the case with reference to the town of Maidstone, where every
effort was used to procure signatures, hut with so little effect that
net more than three hundred were obtained.—Ordered to be laid
on the table.

Earl FITZ WILLI A M presented • Petition in favour of the
Catholic Claims from Kingston upon Hull.
The Duke of RICHMOND presented a Petition against the
Claims of the Catholics from a parish in the county of ku4arz, in
which parish, the Noble Duke observed, a Gentleman of large
property. who was in favour of the Claims of the Catholic% *-
sided, but this circumstance had not prevented the Petition from
being got up. He also presented another Petition from a parish
in the county of Susses, which, he observed, was sigind by every
respectable person in the pa:Mi.—Ordered to lie on the "able.
Lord DU ItlIA M presented a Petition in favour of the Cabo-
licClaims from Sontb Shields.

The Rail of CARLISLE presented a Petition In favour of Mt
Catholic Claims from Worksop, in the county of N ttingtiam. Tbt
Noble Earl alluded to a Petition presented a few. nights ago' by a
Noble Duke (the Duke of Newcastle). to obtiin signatures to which
he (Lord Carible) uoderatbod the greatest exertions had been made.
The Petidua he bad now the honour to present was signed by two
, hundred persons.
The Duke of NEWCASTLE stated that the Petition
he had presented contained 1 200 signatures, which
were procured without any d Ificulty whatever, and to
obtain which no exertions beyond those of ass ordinary
nature had been used. These were, however, several
Roman Catholics in the town who had dotte all in their
power to oppose the Petition, and had behaved ex-
tremely ill. He (the Noble Duke) believed, however,
that the greatest exertions had been used to get up the
counter Petition which the Noble Lord had just pre-
sented, and that intimidation and threats had beers used
to compel persons to sign it ; nay, that some had been
dismissed from their employmes.t in con►equence of
their refusal so to dn.

The Earl of CAR LISLE could ooly say eat hla impression dif.
tired from that tithe Noble Duke.—Ordered to lie uo the table.

The Marquis of LANSDOW N had several Petitions to present
to the House, but would not anticipate the distortion which In a
few days would take place upon the great measure which his Ma-
jesty's Ministers meant to Introduce into Parliament. lie could
not, however. avoid congratulating the House and the country that
the present was a united Government with respect to tisk que.tior.
The Noble Morris presented petitions in favour of the Roma.'
Catholics from 1. tome. in Sinnersehhier; from Dada ; front Warr.
dorm), in Lancashire; from Arbroath. North Britain ; also pad.
dons to the same effect from parishes in the Queen's County ; the
counties of Louth, Meath, Cork, and Lin:click ; and from the
Unitarians of Mickley. near Manchester; from one of the Coro.
nets of the county of Clare; awl from a patio\ la Wilshire; also
front two parishes In the counties of Kdkenny Cosh, .gals

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